| 00:00.07 | ctccromer | yeah |
| 00:00.19 | ProzaicMuze | did you download the map and look at them? |
| 00:00.43 | ctccromer | ahh, didnt see an attatched map *headdesk* |
| 00:01.45 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 00:01.54 | ProzaicMuze | there are two of them ;) |
| 00:03.18 | ctccromer | lookin now |
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| 00:08.49 | Mokse | http://www.wimp.com/sambadance/ haha, thought i'd share...awesome brazillian baby |
| 00:09.05 | Mokse | internet time wasters are win |
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| 00:11.51 | Mokse | dislike name inconsistencies in the data editor... |
| 00:13.12 | RedWraith | build literally happens so fast |
| 00:13.17 | RedWraith | that making the unit stop |
| 00:13.24 | RedWraith | in response to issue order |
| 00:13.28 | RedWraith | does nothing |
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| 00:16.03 | ProzaicMuze | yeah, that kinda thing happens with effect chains too |
| 00:16.16 | ProzaicMuze | If you set everything to 0 time, you'll still have delays in strange spots. |
| 00:16.24 | RedWraith | Is there some way to make a unit wait a little bit before placing the building down, at least until, well, after the approach phase would be great. :P |
| 00:16.39 | ProzaicMuze | give the ability (building) a cast time |
| 00:16.49 | RedWraith | ? |
| 00:16.53 | RedWraith | (building)? |
| 00:17.06 | ProzaicMuze | building a structure is an ability |
| 00:17.08 | RedWraith | you mean |
| 00:17.10 | Triceron | I need to find a good concept artist |
| 00:17.10 | RedWraith | SCV - Build? |
| 00:17.13 | ProzaicMuze | yes |
| 00:17.28 | ProzaicMuze | if you want a phase after the approach phase to be longer, give it a time period of .1 or something |
| 00:17.32 | RedWraith | What's that under? |
| 00:17.35 | RedWraith | cast times, I mean. |
| 00:17.38 | ProzaicMuze | Abilities |
| 00:17.44 | ProzaicMuze | oh lol, one sec and I'll get the specific field |
| 00:17.49 | Mokse | i draw like a 7th grader triceron, good enough? |
| 00:17.51 | Mokse | lol |
| 00:17.56 | RedWraith | How would I do that second one? |
| 00:17.58 | Triceron | >_- |
| 00:17.59 | RedWraith | tbh if I could do that |
| 00:18.02 | RedWraith | it'd fix everything :P |
| 00:19.28 | ProzaicMuze | wtf, build abilitie's don't hvae cast times :S |
| 00:19.35 | ProzaicMuze | abilities* |
| 00:20.26 | Mokse | abilities are instant, their effects are delayed? |
| 00:20.46 | ProzaicMuze | No, most abilities have casting times for each of the 4 phases |
| 00:20.52 | ProzaicMuze | Build abiltiies apparntly have no casting time at all |
| 00:21.27 | RedWraith | yeah thats my problem |
| 00:21.31 | RedWraith | :( |
| 00:21.33 | ProzaicMuze | even effect -instant has a casting time if you want it too lol |
| 00:22.09 | ProzaicMuze | maybe make a dummy ability? |
| 00:22.12 | Mokse | is it possible to make an ability that emulates the building ability? |
| 00:22.18 | Mokse | or that |
| 00:22.26 | ProzaicMuze | click this ability and it tells the unit to use the build ability? |
| 00:22.35 | ProzaicMuze | Then you can add the delay |
| 00:22.39 | Mokse | but is it possible to make the sub-menu? |
| 00:22.45 | Mokse | like the building ability has |
| 00:22.48 | Mokse | in the command card |
| 00:22.58 | ProzaicMuze | no idea, I haven't tried lol |
| 00:23.04 | Mokse | lol, i like the idea though |
| 00:23.09 | Mokse | because that can be used now |
| 00:23.17 | Mokse | that will solve a problem i was just thinking of |
| 00:23.23 | ProzaicMuze | I've never had to compensate for a slow anti-wall mechanic ;) |
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| 00:23.56 | RedWraith | ProzaicMuze |
| 00:23.57 | RedWraith | It's not slow. |
| 00:24.00 | RedWraith | The building happens before anything. |
| 00:24.01 | Jcup | hey guys :D |
| 00:24.10 | Mokse | having one construction unit but having it be able to build like 6 different "races" of towers, and 5 of them would be grayed out when you choose one |
| 00:24.13 | RedWraith | I literally did Issue Order - SCV Build REMOVE UNIT |
| 00:24.13 | ProzaicMuze | Jcup, gimme yo map |
| 00:24.16 | ProzaicMuze | I wants it again |
| 00:24.16 | RedWraith | and it still built |
| 00:24.17 | Mokse | and having each race be a sub-menu |
| 00:24.17 | RedWraith | >:[ |
| 00:24.18 | ProzaicMuze | with the working crap |
| 00:24.27 | Jcup | lol what why? |
| 00:24.39 | ProzaicMuze | I had an idea I wanted to implement earlier and saw something you used effects wise that I'd like to compare to |
| 00:25.06 | ProzaicMuze | since I butchered most of your events in mine, can't use it as a reliable reference lmao |
| 00:25.12 | Jcup | uh ok lol |
| 00:25.33 | ProzaicMuze | I promise not to go posting it earlier and stealing credit for your map or anything ;) |
| 00:25.38 | ProzaicMuze | at least not for a day >:D |
| 00:25.59 | ProzaicMuze | I'm mainly interested in how you used the offsets for the multiple bullets thing |
| 00:26.04 | Jcup | DDDD: |
| 00:26.07 | Jcup | lol |
| 00:26.09 | Jcup | its persistents |
| 00:26.29 | ProzaicMuze | Aye, but I'd like to look at it in its working form before trying to bash mine together to make it. |
| 00:26.55 | ProzaicMuze | if you're not ok with it that's cool, I'll just wait until you release your map :) |
| 00:27.06 | Jcup | mmk its coo just open another chat please |
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| 00:27.12 | Jcup | and keep it to urself |
| 00:27.20 | ProzaicMuze | np :) |
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| 00:29.49 | lxx_ | I was wondering about the licenses of maps |
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| 00:30.38 | lxx_ | if it is all rights reserved does that mean I cannot host it in-game? |
| 00:31.21 | lxx_ | or is the liscense to protect changing the map? |
| 00:34.02 | Mokse | all rights reserved to the license owner |
| 00:34.08 | Mokse | so you can't change it? |
| 00:34.10 | Mokse | i think |
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| 00:38.51 | lxx_ | well a license usually deals with distribution |
| 00:39.24 | lxx_ | but I dont understand how that part could work |
| 00:39.41 | lxx_ | because when you download a map, from some random person, only the file is transfered, not a license |
| 00:40.47 | Triceron | unless |
| 00:41.36 | Triceron | well the map would be playable, but it'd be encrypted, I'd figure |
| 00:41.49 | Triceron | so you can host a map but you can't necessarily modify it |
| 00:41.54 | Triceron | it might not be openable in the editor |
| 00:42.13 | lxx_ | well I see people posting maps on their blog |
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| 00:42.23 | Triceron | there's no map protection right now |
| 00:42.25 | lxx_ | files that are unmodified |
| 00:42.45 | Triceron | map protection feature doesn't even work, so we don't reall know how it'll work |
| 00:43.04 | lxx_ | in wc3 there were ways to do it |
| 00:43.24 | lxx_ | or at least I tried to open a map once and it did not work lol |
| 00:44.00 | lxx_ | I hope they fix that, it is great when the protection is strong enough so that anyone can distribute it but not modify it |
| 00:46.48 | Alpha_vst | yeah map protection is a big issue :P |
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| 00:50.43 | rrowland | Someone hook me up with a free pci-e video card |
| 00:50.45 | rrowland | Mine fried |
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| 00:51.46 | ProzaicMuze | mails rrowland a card |
| 00:54.08 | Mokse | the ac130 game is sweet |
| 00:54.26 | Mokse | pinworm really did a good job |
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| 00:54.56 | ctccromer | ProzaicMuze: got it to work xD |
| 00:55.00 | ctccromer | the chain beam tower i mean |
| 00:55.39 | ctccromer | so now all i need to do is trigger that when a dialog button is clicked i can build that (without having to move to where i wanna build it) |
| 00:55.53 | ctccromer | how do i do that? lol... |
| 00:56.03 | Triceron | I have an extra pci-e card, feel free to pick it up anytime |
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| 01:09.08 | ctccromer | how do i trigger a unit to be destroyed after it shoots 5 times? |
| 01:09.52 | Mokse | umm isn't there on damage event? |
| 01:09.56 | Mokse | set up a variable |
| 01:10.06 | Mokse | and when that variable hits 5 destroy the building |
| 01:10.53 | ctccromer | hm.. ill try that |
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| 01:13.48 | ProzaicMuze | good deal ctc :D |
| 01:13.52 | ctccromer | wheres an event for when the integer reaches 5? |
| 01:14.19 | ctccromer | prozaic: if youve looked at my map, you mightve seen the Magic section. One of the things im adding is the ability to make that chain tower :P |
| 01:14.38 | ctccromer | i made it invincible so enemies still attack me |
| 01:14.43 | ctccromer | and itll die after it shoots 5 times |
| 01:16.30 | ctccromer | is there an event for when an integer reaches a value? |
| 01:16.42 | ctccromer | or do i have to say every 0.2 seconds if it = value? |
| 01:24.15 | Triceron | alright I'm out |
| 01:24.23 | ProzaicMuze | sounds like a nifty tower ;) |
| 01:24.33 | ProzaicMuze | and are talking about event timers? |
| 01:24.34 | Triceron | vote for me in the modelling contest. Love you all. |
| 01:25.24 | ProzaicMuze | Better question, are you trying to use events to kill your tower after multiple shots? |
| 01:27.06 | ctccromer | yup |
| 01:27.11 | ctccromer | it works fine |
| 01:27.32 | ProzaicMuze | lol mmk then nvm |
| 01:27.47 | ctccromer | xD |
| 01:28.22 | SiNiquity | Make a function "Set Variable Listened" and have it fire a custom event + set variable. Make a trigger for the custom event and have the value u want be a condition. |
| 01:29.11 | SiNiquity | there's prolly a simpler solution, but that's first thing that came to mind |
| 01:32.01 | ProzaicMuze | afk for a bit. I need a shower again in all this heat >:( |
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| 01:41.17 | RedWraith | ProzaicMuze, so there is no way of solving my problem? :( |
| 01:45.07 | AV|AWAY | what are you trying to do? |
| 01:48.26 | RedWraith | I'm trying to get the goddamn builder to wait a goddamn second before he lays down the building. |
| 01:48.48 | RedWraith | I actually did it to remove the builder on issue order and it STILL built the building. |
| 01:51.26 | RedWraith | Like...there's nothing before that. |
| 01:53.38 | Alpha_vst | why dont you give the unit unit a behavior when they are issued a order that makes them wait? |
| 01:54.13 | Guest78541 | Trigger > Any Unit is issued order (SCV - Build) command then to do blah |
| 01:54.30 | Guest78541 | Part of the command to do blah is you can have it be before or after the issued order |
| 01:54.32 | Guest78541 | wait, wtf |
| 01:54.41 | ProzaicMuze | dirty chanel mugging my name |
| 01:54.55 | ProzaicMuze | But yeah: |
| 01:55.22 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 01:55.33 | ProzaicMuze | SCV is issued order > Trigger slips an order in before issued order > SCV does triggered order (some dummy ability that tells it to stop moving for X) > SCV does issued order |
| 01:55.53 | Alpha_vst | yeah why i said a bevahoir |
| 01:56.03 | Alpha_vst | but yeah |
| 01:56.08 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not sure you can do that with behaviors, I'd have to look |
| 01:57.04 | Alpha_vst | im sure you can do something im tryign to watch stuff though |
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| 01:57.49 | ProzaicMuze | I'll look into it, it might be possible, haven't tried lol |
| 01:58.10 | RedWraith | Yeah, that doesn't work. |
| 01:58.15 | RedWraith | The building is already laid down. |
| 01:58.35 | RedWraith | I did replace and before. |
| 01:58.37 | RedWraith | Told it to stop. |
| 01:58.40 | RedWraith | It still worked. |
| 01:58.45 | RedWraith | I even had it remove the goddamn unit. |
| 01:58.48 | RedWraith | It STILL WORKED |
| 01:58.54 | RedWraith | araaraarghhr |
| 01:58.59 | ProzaicMuze | lol give me a second |
| 01:59.09 | ProzaicMuze | I'll attempt to make something and see what happens |
| 02:01.56 | RedWraith | It only builds it before telling me when it's right on top of the unit. |
| 02:02.06 | RedWraith | when the scv does not need to move to build |
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| 02:12.33 | ctccromer | woo finally done with a long list of things to do ^^ had the most version to version updates on this new upload |
| 02:14.58 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:15.23 | Alpha_vst | yeah im working on a huge bug my threat system is still not working correctly :( |
| 02:15.50 | Alpha_vst | cause i wasn't selecting all units like a noob |
| 02:16.42 | Alpha_vst | and doing this loop is confusingly hard :P |
| 02:17.13 | RedWraith | Alpha, use recursion. |
| 02:17.16 | RedWraith | Recursion is better. |
| 02:17.23 | RedWraith | Like, action calls itself shit. |
| 02:17.45 | Alpha_vst | recursion? wtf is that |
| 02:18.51 | Alpha_vst | you mean calling triggers though triggers? |
| 02:18.53 | Alpha_vst | i do that |
| 02:23.47 | MysT_DooM | yall know who Artanis is right |
| 02:23.50 | MysT_DooM | protoss guy from SC? |
| 02:24.07 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 02:24.20 | MysT_DooM | sure you do |
| 02:24.22 | Alpha_vst | im pretty sure hes from wow |
| 02:24.30 | MysT_DooM | nah his protoss guy |
| 02:24.33 | MysT_DooM | w/e |
| 02:24.33 | MysT_DooM | but |
| 02:24.37 | MysT_DooM | check his name backwards |
| 02:24.39 | MysT_DooM | Sinatra |
| 02:24.44 | MysT_DooM | as in Frank Sinatra! |
| 02:24.47 | Alpha_vst | wow |
| 02:24.53 | MysT_DooM | totally blew my mind when i thought of it |
| 02:26.20 | Dustin | Holy fuck theres alot of options for lighting |
| 02:26.25 | Dustin | Wish I could see a live preview of it |
| 02:29.38 | Alpha_vst | you can |
| 02:29.40 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:29.44 | Alpha_vst | or was that a joke? |
| 02:30.02 | Alpha_vst | yeah that was a joke |
| 02:30.04 | Alpha_vst | im slow |
| 02:30.27 | Mokse | past 6 minutes have been pure win |
| 02:30.28 | ProzaicMuze | well Red, all I can get it to do is delay building somethin gfrom a distance |
| 02:30.40 | ProzaicMuze | Apparently nothing is fast enough to stop building directly on top of yourself :( |
| 02:31.23 | Mokse | is there a way to make an ability that uses the command card like the building ability? |
| 02:31.43 | ProzaicMuze | when you click it takes you to another menu? |
| 02:31.47 | ProzaicMuze | er, command card? |
| 02:34.36 | Mokse | yeah |
| 02:34.52 | Mokse | and then you can have all the building abilites there |
| 02:34.56 | ProzaicMuze | yes, I don't know off the top of my head, but the "Marine Arena" map does it |
| 02:35.18 | Mokse | and then add cast times to the abilities in that command card |
| 02:35.39 | ProzaicMuze | can't add cast times to building abilities |
| 02:35.55 | ProzaicMuze | construction abilities I should say lol |
| 02:36.24 | Mokse | is there a way to make an ability that commands an scv to build a building? |
| 02:36.34 | Mokse | kind of like a dummy? or was that your idea |
| 02:37.24 | ProzaicMuze | there is, but it's a "build" ability. And those kind of abilities don't have a cast time |
| 02:37.35 | ProzaicMuze | My idea was to use a trigger to slip a dummy ability in before the build ability to delay it |
| 02:37.38 | ProzaicMuze | but it didn't work |
| 02:38.09 | ProzaicMuze | the build ability just overrided the whole universe and said "I WILL BUILD YOU DIRTY WOMAN" and proceeded to make a building |
| 02:38.10 | Mokse | ah |
| 02:38.21 | Mokse | sounds like a real bitch |
| 02:38.39 | ProzaicMuze | indeed |
| 02:38.49 | ProzaicMuze | It makes no sense at all and is poor design on blizzards part |
| 02:40.52 | Mokse | of course, i would assume that blizzard didn't have the time, or the ability, to use the editor to the extent that all of us beta users have |
| 02:40.59 | Mokse | and test all these things |
| 02:41.12 | rrowland | You know the entire campaign is in editor? |
| 02:41.35 | Mokse | you mean available for us to play/hidden or do you mean they made the entire thing in editor |
| 02:41.41 | Mokse | the latter i would not be surprised by |
| 02:41.53 | rrowland | made in |
| 02:42.25 | ProzaicMuze | but they haven't used as many of the features as we will use |
| 02:42.33 | ProzaicMuze | Mainly because some of them are there just so that we can add onto it |
| 02:42.42 | rrowland | like? |
| 02:42.48 | ProzaicMuze | some of the movers |
| 02:43.18 | Mokse | they haven't used a millionth of the features that will be used by the time they release SC3 |
| 02:43.38 | rrowland | A millionth huh |
| 02:43.44 | rrowland | Exaggerate much? |
| 02:44.00 | Mokse | just because the creativity of about 10 blizzard employees is so much smaller than the huge community that will be using the editor |
| 02:44.18 | ProzaicMuze | when you consider that we can actually add to the editor and create our own stuff, it's hard to say that blizzard made all the features fully functional |
| 02:44.20 | Mokse | and the permutations of possibilities that the editor allows |
| 02:44.38 | Mokse | and considering mods too, which is prozaics point |
| 02:44.47 | ProzaicMuze | And then we've got peopel who simply ignore the editor to make their changes |
| 02:45.02 | Mokse | huh? |
| 02:45.03 | ProzaicMuze | A lot of the features are solid, but there are definitely some areas that suck :( |
| 02:45.15 | rrowland | Like my missiles |
| 02:45.18 | ProzaicMuze | just think about your problem rrowland, they didn' tmake missiles that travel in a direct for a given distance |
| 02:45.19 | ProzaicMuze | lmao yeah |
| 02:45.22 | Mokse | hah, yeah. i'm glad this is not the full Galaxy Editor |
| 02:45.28 | rrowland | I figured it out except for one part |
| 02:45.38 | rrowland | Well |
| 02:45.46 | ProzaicMuze | the sniper accelerator bullet or the regular ones> |
| 02:45.47 | ProzaicMuze | ?* |
| 02:45.50 | Mokse | it's not even called Galaxy Editor lol, it's called StarCraft II editor |
| 02:46.00 | rrowland | Actually I didn't, I figured out a temporary solution that I will just have to undo and refix 10 minutes after I finish assault shots |
| 02:46.03 | rrowland | And start on sniper shots |
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| 02:47.33 | ekcolnvkol | wooooooOOOO |
| 02:47.36 | ekcolnvkol | digs it |
| 02:47.53 | ekcolnvkol | ... |
| 02:47.57 | ekcolnovkol | <_< |
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| 02:50.30 | Mokse | mmm well, that's enough for me tonight |
| 02:50.35 | Mokse | vote for me in the wallpaper contest |
| 02:50.38 | Mokse | :D |
| 02:50.49 | rrowland | I can't change the speed of the bullet through behaviors either |
| 02:50.53 | ekcolnovkol | what's in it for me? |
| 02:50.59 | rrowland | Nothing effects it while it's being moved by the mover |
| 02:53.22 | rrowland | Fuck this, this is so frustrating |
| 02:53.38 | Alpha_vst | lol yeah |
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| 02:58.57 | ProzaicMuze | rrowland you can give it variable time by applying a parabolic rate or be adding acceleration to it or by creating multiple speed stages |
| 02:59.27 | rrowland | Why would I want to do that |
| 02:59.42 | ProzaicMuze | Aren't you trying to make a bullet that speeds up over time? |
| 03:00.00 | rrowland | I could just give it a max speed of a bajillion and a slow acceleration |
| 03:00.13 | rrowland | But that's not the problem |
| 03:00.18 | rrowland | The problem is if my offset is off the map |
| 03:00.23 | rrowland | The ability doesn't even cast |
| 03:00.41 | ProzaicMuze | well, how big is your offset, how big is the map, and are you planning to use the ENTIRE map? |
| 03:01.17 | rrowland | Does it matter? If I shoot from top left to bottom right I will be shooting twice the distance as I would from middle to any corner |
| 03:01.39 | ProzaicMuze | it does based on how big your map is goin gto be |
| 03:01.47 | rrowland | No it doesn't |
| 03:01.51 | rrowland | It doesn't matter at all |
| 03:01.55 | ProzaicMuze | . . . |
| 03:02.06 | rrowland | My map could be 50,000 by 50,000 |
| 03:02.18 | rrowland | Or 20x20 |
| 03:02.24 | rrowland | And I couldn't make a bullet that spanned either |
| 03:03.07 | ProzaicMuze | If you're going to use a 50 x 50 map and have an offset 70, then you make the actual map 120 and raise the terrain so you have the 50x50 center as the playing area. Then you shrink the minimap to that 50x50 area only. |
| 03:03.27 | rrowland | Okay so what if I'm 20 units from the edge and shoot toward the edge? |
| 03:03.35 | rrowland | That's right, nothing |
| 03:03.43 | rrowland | Because it's off the map |
| 03:03.43 | ProzaicMuze | you'd go 50 into the 70 buffer you created |
| 03:03.53 | ProzaicMuze | lol you're not understanding what I'm saying |
| 03:04.20 | ProzaicMuze | if you make the map 50 x50, make the buffer 70. Thus you have a 120 x 120 map with a 50 x 50 playing field and the minimap moved to only encompass the 50 x 50 area. |
| 03:04.24 | rrowland | My buffer would have to be the same size as the playable map |
| 03:04.32 | rrowland | Actually |
| 03:04.35 | rrowland | It would have to be bigger |
| 03:05.31 | ProzaicMuze | your buffer just has to be as big as the diagonal, that's it |
| 03:05.36 | rrowland | Right |
| 03:05.37 | ProzaicMuze | plus maybe 5 |
| 03:05.40 | rrowland | That means bigger |
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| 03:05.55 | rrowland | I couldn't make a 128x128 map |
| 03:06.01 | rrowland | Because the buffer wouldn't be large enough |
| 03:06.10 | rrowland | 256x256 -> 128x128 I mean |
| 03:06.26 | rrowland | But right now I think my map is 168x168 so |
| 03:06.40 | ProzaicMuze | and you're gonna be running all over the entire field? |
| 03:06.49 | rrowland | yes |
| 03:07.13 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/scarab/. Scarab. Arconeaux (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 03:07.17 | ProzaicMuze | :S |
| 03:07.35 | rrowland | Making my map twice the size to accomodate this isn't something I'd do regardless |
| 03:07.39 | rrowland | Too hacky |
| 03:07.58 | rrowland | Stupid oversight on blizzard's part I think |
| 03:08.01 | ProzaicMuze | Some of the best maps. . . are all abotu hacky. |
| 03:08.02 | rrowland | Frustrating as fuck |
| 03:08.08 | ProzaicMuze | Although I do agree it's annoying |
| 03:08.19 | rrowland | Why? Because the creators didn't know a better way? |
| 03:08.24 | rrowland | And what maps are you referring to? |
| 03:08.29 | ProzaicMuze | in SC1 |
| 03:08.40 | rrowland | Comparing SC1 to SC2 editors? |
| 03:09.56 | ProzaicMuze | Considering we don't know the half of what the SC2 editor can actually do, it would be ignorant for me to try to say you MUST be hacky to be good. My point is that in other modding communities, some of the best mods are those that bend the editors rules. |
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| 03:10.20 | Bifuu | hai |
| 03:10.21 | rrowland | Maybe in some extreme cases sure |
| 03:10.23 | ProzaicMuze | Not because the developer is stupid, but because the mapper was creative enough to make a situation work despite obstacles. |
| 03:10.27 | rrowland | This is a simple effect |
| 03:10.41 | rrowland | There should be no creativeness required |
| 03:10.42 | rrowland | Missile |
| 03:10.45 | rrowland | You go that way |
| 03:10.47 | rrowland | Until I say stop |
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| 03:23.14 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 04:00.53 | onetwo | lol was finally gonna make a post on your thread |
| 04:00.54 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 04:00.58 | onetwo | i made a war3 account and everything |
| 04:01.01 | onetwo | and now bnet login is down |
| 04:01.08 | supadots | :O |
| 04:01.22 | onetwo | Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. |
| 04:01.23 | onetwo | :( |
| 04:02.12 | supadots | what is the collision field called in the editor? |
| 04:02.23 | supadots | for unit collision |
| 04:03.44 | onetwo | collision? |
| 04:03.48 | onetwo | movement - collision? |
| 04:04.12 | supadots | nope |
| 04:04.58 | ProzaicMuze | Movement - Collide. Close enough |
| 04:05.47 | crazyfingers | movement - radius should be important too |
| 04:06.01 | supadots | Movement - Collide isnt there |
| 04:06.55 | ProzaicMuze | . . . then you're not looking hard enough. |
| 04:07.00 | ProzaicMuze | It's under the unit tab |
| 04:07.08 | ProzaicMuze | do you have table view on? |
| 04:07.31 | supadots | yes |
| 04:07.51 | onetwo | turn table view off |
| 04:07.56 | onetwo | make sure ctrl+d isnt on either |
| 04:07.58 | onetwo | raw view.. |
| 04:09.21 | Alpha_vst | i think i got this omg |
| 04:09.51 | supadots | im talking about collision size, not what it collides with. |
| 04:09.57 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:10.00 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:10.01 | ProzaicMuze | erm, leave table view on |
| 04:10.02 | onetwo | um |
| 04:10.06 | ProzaicMuze | DON'T turn it off |
| 04:10.07 | onetwo | no tableview is the devil |
| 04:10.08 | onetwo | jk jk |
| 04:10.09 | onetwo | haha |
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| 04:10.12 | onetwo | i never use it |
| 04:10.25 | supadots | so |
| 04:10.28 | ProzaicMuze | Movement - Radius |
| 04:10.28 | supadots | any ideas? |
| 04:10.33 | onetwo | probably that |
| 04:10.37 | onetwo | and seperation radius |
| 04:10.41 | ProzaicMuze | Separation Radius is for flying units |
| 04:11.09 | supadots | i dont have just plain radius |
| 04:11.15 | supadots | i mean |
| 04:11.20 | supadots | movement - radius |
| 04:11.40 | supadots | i do have just plain radius tho |
| 04:11.46 | Jcup | meow |
| 04:12.23 | supadots | hmm |
| 04:13.14 | ProzaicMuze | make sure all 5 buttons next to the search bar a pressed. Ignore the 6th one to the left of the divider. |
| 04:13.54 | ProzaicMuze | then you should be able to see movement - radius |
| 04:14.08 | supadots | yeah, all of them are pressed |
| 04:14.17 | supadots | do you have movement - radius? |
| 04:14.21 | ProzaicMuze | And you still don't see Movement - Radius? |
| 04:14.31 | supadots | like your looking at your editor atm? |
| 04:14.40 | ProzaicMuze | yes, I'm making something atm |
| 04:14.44 | ProzaicMuze | Click the 4th button on and off |
| 04:14.58 | ProzaicMuze | if movement doesn't show up while doing this, your editor is messed up in some way and you should probably open/close it. |
| 04:15.15 | ProzaicMuze | 2nd button left of the search bar I should say |
| 04:15.24 | supadots | whats the radius thing say for a zergling |
| 04:15.26 | supadots | .5? |
| 04:15.41 | ProzaicMuze | radius is the same field as movement - radius, yes |
| 04:15.51 | onetwo | you need to switch back to localization view and then delete the mover field |
| 04:15.57 | onetwo | JK |
| 04:15.59 | onetwo | but seriously |
| 04:16.01 | ProzaicMuze | but you should make sure that it show smovement, because some of the more complicated fields to edit are more easily viewed with the prefixes |
| 04:16.04 | onetwo | you open the editor |
| 04:16.06 | onetwo | you click a unit |
| 04:16.08 | onetwo | you scroll down |
| 04:16.12 | onetwo | and see radius fields |
| 04:16.20 | onetwo | Movement - Radius |
| 04:16.21 | onetwo | makes sense |
| 04:16.25 | onetwo | and Movement - Separation Radius |
| 04:16.27 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 04:16.40 | onetwo | not sure what both do individually |
| 04:16.40 | supadots | i have |
| 04:16.43 | onetwo | but i usually set them the same |
| 04:16.43 | supadots | data - radius |
| 04:16.53 | supadots | not movement - radius |
| 04:17.32 | supadots | do you have data - radius? |
| 04:18.25 | ProzaicMuze | where are you from? |
| 04:18.29 | onetwo | http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/546/16949889.jpg |
| 04:18.31 | onetwo | there |
| 04:18.35 | onetwo | now you have to see it |
| 04:18.57 | ProzaicMuze | supadots, what country are you from? |
| 04:19.08 | supadots | USA |
| 04:19.10 | ProzaicMuze | hrm |
| 04:19.14 | supadots | us client |
| 04:19.22 | ProzaicMuze | Then that's not it :S |
| 04:19.31 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:19.49 | ProzaicMuze | no idea why it says radius instead of movement |
| 04:20.14 | supadots | well |
| 04:20.23 | supadots | its under data for me |
| 04:20.25 | supadots | i guess |
| 04:20.29 | supadots | :/ |
| 04:20.51 | onetwo | supadots |
| 04:20.54 | onetwo | did you press ctrl+d |
| 04:20.55 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:21.11 | supadots | its not in raw data mode |
| 04:22.06 | supadots | http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1110/thisbitches.jpg |
| 04:22.08 | supadots | here |
| 04:22.20 | supadots | sry bout the name |
| 04:22.21 | supadots | lol |
| 04:22.41 | supadots | see where radius is? |
| 04:23.24 | supadots | what else is important for collision? |
| 04:24.29 | supadots | woot |
| 04:24.34 | supadots | thx for the help guys |
| 04:24.38 | supadots | i got it now :) |
| 04:25.22 | onetwo | i know what it is |
| 04:25.29 | onetwo | you havent played sc2 beta since pre 1.13? |
| 04:25.32 | onetwo | maybe |
| 04:25.40 | supadots | hm |
| 04:25.46 | onetwo | if so, your editor is wildly different |
| 04:25.47 | supadots | ill try and update it |
| 04:25.49 | onetwo | you cant |
| 04:25.50 | onetwo | i think |
| 04:25.51 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:25.53 | supadots | you can |
| 04:25.55 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:25.56 | onetwo | okay |
| 04:26.02 | onetwo | wel DEFINITELY get post 1.13 |
| 04:26.04 | onetwo | sc2 beta |
| 04:26.08 | onetwo | editor changed some important things |
| 04:26.10 | onetwo | especially hero leveling |
| 04:26.13 | onetwo | organization of fields |
| 04:26.14 | onetwo | etc |
| 04:26.28 | supadots | O_o |
| 04:26.30 | ProzaicMuze | he called us bitches :( |
| 04:26.38 | supadots | what about hero leveling changed? |
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| 04:31.25 | rrowland | So I went out and bought an overpriced video card because I can't wait 2 days for a new one |
| 04:31.47 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
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| 04:31.52 | Alpha_vst | noob |
| 04:32.13 | supadots | i have v2.1.2.1533 |
| 04:33.02 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 04:33.06 | ProzaicMuze | What card did you get? |
| 04:33.56 | rrowland | a 250 gt |
| 04:34.02 | rrowland | so basically an 8800 gt |
| 04:34.07 | rrowland | 250 gts********** |
| 04:34.12 | supadots | lol |
| 04:34.21 | ProzaicMuze | I think that's what I've got |
| 04:34.26 | supadots | i got 2 8800 gtx |
| 04:34.27 | ProzaicMuze | 250 or 260, I can't remember lmao |
| 04:34.32 | supadots | really old computer |
| 04:34.32 | rrowland | 260 is better |
| 04:34.35 | ProzaicMuze | but I've got Dual SLI 25/60 GTS |
| 04:34.50 | rrowland | I want to make a new computer when I get an income |
| 04:35.12 | ProzaicMuze | go work the corners then? |
| 04:35.16 | rrowland | Since I live in so. cal and I don't have air conditioning |
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| 04:35.29 | ProzaicMuze | ouch :S |
| 04:35.38 | rrowland | I'm just going to fill my computer with mineral oil |
| 04:35.44 | rrowland | And pass it through a radiator |
| 04:36.51 | onetwo | lol supadots |
| 04:36.54 | onetwo | i had 2 8800gtxs |
| 04:36.59 | onetwo | one died a few months ago during sc2 |
| 04:37.05 | onetwo | so now im on one; same performance basically |
| 04:37.09 | onetwo | but sli saved my life |
| 04:37.13 | onetwo | so i dont have to buy anything now |
| 04:37.14 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:37.16 | rrowland | Yeah SLI adds maybe 15% performance boost |
| 04:38.45 | supadots | dont lol at me :( |
| 04:39.01 | supadots | i kill you |
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| 04:42.47 | ProzaicMuze | lol lol lol |
| 04:42.50 | ProzaicMuze | lawl |
| 04:42.57 | ProzaicMuze | \o/ |
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| 04:43.06 | rrowland | what did i miss |
| 04:43.18 | ProzaicMuze | me lolling at supadots so he'll kill me |
| 04:43.44 | supadots | oh yeah |
| 04:43.46 | supadots | forgt |
| 04:43.50 | supadots | forgot* |
| 04:45.45 | supadots | what kind of map are you all making? |
| 04:46.02 | supadots | has anyone on the forums made a good TD yet? |
| 04:48.05 | lotharscm | where do you hide the "rank:" display |
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| 04:49.35 | ProzaicMuze | for what tab? |
| 04:50.41 | lotharscm | on the unit display in game |
| 04:50.42 | onetwo | im looking forward to that line tower wars remake |
| 04:50.50 | onetwo | i forget who was making it |
| 04:50.55 | onetwo | people keep coming and going in this channel |
| 04:51.21 | supadots | how do i make a unit invurnable? is it a flag? |
| 04:52.00 | ProzaicMuze | yes |
| 04:52.03 | ProzaicMuze | at the bottom of the list |
| 04:52.19 | ProzaicMuze | and lothar, are you saying you want the experience rance to be hidden or a buff rank or what? |
| 04:52.26 | ProzaicMuze | rance = rank* |
| 04:52.52 | lotharscm | there is a behavior + invulnerable too |
| 04:53.18 | ProzaicMuze | ??? |
| 04:53.23 | lotharscm | below kills: there is rank: on my UI display |
| 04:53.40 | lotharscm | i want to hide the rank |
| 04:54.08 | supadots | ranks are behaviors correct? |
| 04:54.28 | onetwo | lotharscm |
| 04:54.37 | onetwo | the ranks are set in gameplay data or w/e |
| 04:54.39 | onetwo | in the data editor |
| 04:54.40 | onetwo | look for it |
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| 04:54.46 | onetwo | i believe its a field in there |
| 04:54.46 | ProzaicMuze | ^^ |
| 04:54.48 | onetwo | for setting the ranks |
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| 05:08.49 | Triceron | too quiet in here |
| 05:09.39 | onetwo | i finished making my post on |
| 05:09.40 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25482058159&postId=255501470191&sid=3000#129 |
| 05:09.49 | onetwo | sixens thread |
| 05:09.55 | Triceron | onetwo! |
| 05:10.07 | Triceron | vote for me, sc2 modelling contest, do it |
| 05:10.20 | onetwo | is it through facebook again |
| 05:10.25 | Triceron | no |
| 05:10.27 | Triceron | sc2mapster |
| 05:11.14 | Triceron | down with Vivi, copouts. Not even FF13 character! |
| 05:13.04 | onetwo | lol wtf |
| 05:13.06 | onetwo | someone replied to my post |
| 05:13.13 | onetwo | Well it turns out your post is actually invalid and in violation of the forum guidelines. I'm processing a report citing the offending section. Delete and ban. |
| 05:13.15 | onetwo | wtf? |
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| 05:14.56 | Triceron | his name is autoflamer |
| 05:15.00 | Triceron | so he's autoflaming you |
| 05:15.12 | ProzaicMuze | you got trolled |
| 05:15.13 | ProzaicMuze | ha |
| 05:15.34 | Triceron | at least he didn't 'first' you |
| 05:16.18 | onetwo | well |
| 05:16.18 | onetwo | i used all caps |
| 05:16.18 | onetwo | in CHRIS |
| 05:16.18 | onetwo | and BILLION |
| 05:16.18 | onetwo | im going to fix it |
| 05:16.19 | onetwo | so theres nothing they can do |
| 05:16.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:16.55 | Triceron | why would you NEED that many digits |
| 05:17.07 | Triceron | I mean I know conceptually it's nice to have |
| 05:17.19 | Triceron | but... I don't want to be Triceron.5157351 |
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| 05:17.37 | Triceron | it's really degrading even though I know I'm the only Triceron. |
| 05:17.47 | Triceron | more than just Triceron.532 |
| 05:18.11 | onetwo | what? |
| 05:18.14 | onetwo | what do you mean digits |
| 05:18.18 | onetwo | i was talking about full account names |
| 05:18.19 | onetwo | not digits |
| 05:18.31 | onetwo | like aaa |
| 05:18.33 | onetwo | aaaa |
| 05:18.35 | onetwo | aaaaa |
| 05:18.37 | onetwo | thats what i mean by digits |
| 05:18.48 | onetwo | no "dots" |
| 05:18.50 | onetwo | or identifiers |
| 05:19.21 | Triceron | I dun get it |
| 05:19.31 | Triceron | you mean any account name more than 3 digits? |
| 05:19.43 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:19.44 | onetwo | so like ace |
| 05:19.46 | onetwo | onetwo |
| 05:19.46 | onetwo | etc |
| 05:19.51 | onetwo | no identifer/digit code |
| 05:19.53 | onetwo | i fixed my post |
| 05:19.57 | onetwo | to reflect that so it doesnt confuse |
| 05:20.00 | onetwo | in a warcraft 3 naming system |
| 05:20.03 | onetwo | thats how many names you could have |
| 05:20.07 | onetwo | 5.66E10 |
| 05:20.10 | onetwo | + billions |
| 05:20.10 | Triceron | so someone can be oNetwo |
| 05:20.12 | onetwo | +millions |
| 05:20.15 | onetwo | no |
| 05:20.18 | onetwo | not case sensitive |
| 05:20.53 | Triceron | so xXonetwoXx |
| 05:21.24 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:21.37 | onetwo | if you have a unique naming system like warcraft 3 or starcraft 1 |
| 05:21.46 | onetwo | and you have to start a name with a letter |
| 05:21.53 | onetwo | for 3 digit names |
| 05:21.57 | onetwo | thats 26*36*36 |
| 05:22.00 | onetwo | or 33,696 |
| 05:22.01 | onetwo | as i posted |
| 05:22.03 | onetwo | and then 4 digit names |
| 05:22.07 | Triceron | I just hope they add in person renaming |
| 05:22.12 | Triceron | on friends list |
| 05:22.12 | onetwo | all the way to 6 digit names which have billions of combinations |
| 05:22.18 | Triceron | and have it reflected in lobby |
| 05:22.20 | Triceron | in game |
| 05:22.22 | onetwo | ah |
| 05:22.31 | Triceron | so i can just nickname people |
| 05:22.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:22.42 | onetwo | i found that most people in warcraft 3 |
| 05:22.45 | Triceron | its honestly the easiest way |
| 05:22.45 | onetwo | had unique enough names |
| 05:22.50 | onetwo | that i dont need to nickname them |
| 05:22.51 | Triceron | in warcraft 3 |
| 05:22.55 | Triceron | I just call you by color |
| 05:22.57 | onetwo | i want to login and message "Sixen" and get sixen |
| 05:22.57 | Triceron | and you'll deal with it |
| 05:22.59 | onetwo | not sixen.542114 |
| 05:23.02 | onetwo | sixen.sixen |
| 05:23.06 | Triceron | hey Blue, stop being a fuck |
| 05:23.09 | onetwo | nevah! |
| 05:23.10 | Triceron | shut up Green |
| 05:23.19 | Triceron | Dark Green, gtfo |
| 05:23.26 | Triceron | seems easiest to me |
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| 05:23.31 | Triceron | so the only issue |
| 05:23.36 | Triceron | is if you have multiple Chris on friends list |
| 05:23.42 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen |
| 05:23.55 | Triceron | if you're in private chat, then nickname. If you're talking in party, nickname. |
| 05:25.15 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/3939-data-working-with-beams-beginner-difficulty/ |
| 05:25.27 | supadots | whats the action in the trigger editor for making a unit patrol to a point? |
| 05:25.28 | ProzaicMuze | Beginner beams tutorial has been updated for those who asked for it |
| 05:25.39 | onetwo | haha nice |
| 05:26.34 | supadots | nvm |
| 05:26.53 | TheLaughingMan | So it looks like so far you have to scale everything by 50% to get a 512 map |
| 05:27.29 | TheLaughingMan | Cause opening up a 512 map in GE crashes it and there is no option I can find to change the values |
| 05:28.08 | Alpha_vst | thats a lot of work... |
| 05:28.16 | Alpha_vst | A LOT OF WORK |
| 05:28.20 | TheLaughingMan | Nah |
| 05:28.25 | TheLaughingMan | someone will release a thing to do it |
| 05:29.09 | Triceron | can you make macros for GE? |
| 05:29.10 | Triceron | that'd be awesome |
| 05:29.18 | Triceron | like custom buttons or action scripts |
| 05:29.27 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 05:29.30 | TheLaughingMan | Huh? |
| 05:29.56 | Triceron | like if you want to create a new unit |
| 05:30.14 | TheLaughingMan | No you can't |
| 05:30.14 | Triceron | and duplicate it off a Marine |
| 05:30.25 | Triceron | you have to duplicate the marine and its actor |
| 05:30.32 | Triceron | it'd be cool if you can make a button do that |
| 05:31.05 | TheLaughingMan | Well you can't |
| 05:31.05 | Triceron | select unit, hit button, it runs a bunch of actions to do it |
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| 05:31.05 | Triceron | that'd be so swell |
| 05:32.06 | ProzaicMuze | you could make a macro with a 3rd party program though |
| 05:32.19 | Kaseano | any1 know how to make an item be used when it's picked up? |
| 05:33.55 | TheLaughingMan | magic |
| 05:34.10 | TheLaughingMan | Time to rip apart the SC2Editor.exe |
| 05:34.48 | Triceron | that's what I mean, 3rd party stuff |
| 05:34.56 | Triceron | that would make it noobtastic for me |
| 05:35.19 | onetwo | Kaseano, that would be called a powerup |
| 05:35.21 | onetwo | but i dont know how it works yet |
| 05:35.21 | Triceron | I'd just download a bunch of macros and never learn it the real way, and live my blissful, ignorant life |
| 05:35.24 | onetwo | havent seen any reference on it |
| 05:36.41 | Kaseano | oh ok |
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| 05:37.03 | Kaseano | so find a switch from "item" to "powerup" maybe? |
| 05:37.54 | onetwo | maybe |
| 05:37.59 | onetwo | it might be a unit field |
| 05:38.00 | onetwo | not item field |
| 05:38.02 | onetwo | i have NO idea |
| 05:38.05 | onetwo | i just know it exists |
| 05:38.13 | Kaseano | well I tried it as a trigger couldn't pull that one off either |
| 05:38.29 | Kaseano | you'd think it'd be easy like, unit picks up item, item = "blah", use triggering item |
| 05:38.41 | onetwo | no "unit picks up item" trigger exists |
| 05:38.42 | onetwo | yet |
| 05:38.46 | onetwo | according to what i heard |
| 05:38.48 | Kaseano | triggers seem to call all items powerups too |
| 05:38.51 | onetwo | items are only in the game as extra for us developers |
| 05:38.54 | Kaseano | just wondering if anyone had run into it yet i guess.. |
| 05:38.56 | onetwo | they didnt need them officially for campaign |
| 05:38.59 | onetwo | hence why some things are missing |
| 05:39.02 | onetwo | but thats just a rumor |
| 05:39.02 | Kaseano | yeah I figured there is so little support for it :( |
| 05:39.12 | Kaseano | the item containers are beautiful tho |
| 05:39.18 | onetwo | great system :D |
| 05:42.20 | Kaseano | +onetwo do you know how to set up a learning system for abilities |
| 05:42.26 | Kaseano | or have you seen a tutorial |
| 05:42.30 | onetwo | youtube.com/onetwosc |
| 05:42.32 | onetwo | my channel |
| 05:42.35 | onetwo | tutorial 10 |
| 05:42.35 | onetwo | i think |
| 05:42.44 | Kaseano | awesome thx :) |
| 05:43.00 | onetwo | any Q's you can ask here after :D |
| 05:43.41 | Kaseano | nice |
| 05:43.48 | Kaseano | wow def gonna check out the lighting one |
| 05:44.20 | onetwo | what lightning one? |
| 05:44.24 | onetwo | oh lighting |
| 05:44.26 | onetwo | ugh i suck |
| 05:44.26 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:51.26 | Kaseano | oh bad ass abilities have levels |
| 05:51.47 | Kaseano | does sc2 even use that? |
| 05:51.57 | onetwo | ? |
| 05:52.02 | Kaseano | I'm sure they do w upgrades right like stuff that makes an ability cost less or something |
| 05:53.06 | Kaseano | I was thinking maybe sc2 core upgraded an ability from 1 to 2 if you buy the upgrade |
| 05:53.09 | Kaseano | can't think of any examples tho |
| 05:53.22 | Kaseano | which means this ability leveling thing is just for developers too right |
| 05:53.24 | Kaseano | they went all out |
| 05:53.39 | Kaseano | or at least didn't remove anything from war3 |
| 05:54.33 | Kaseano | looks like it'll be rough cus you need to level up the ability effects with the ability tho |
| 05:54.42 | Kaseano | right +onetwo? |
| 05:55.30 | Kaseano | ah yeah you just said that in your tutorial |
| 05:57.14 | onetwo | what |
| 05:57.24 | onetwo | yeah my RPG |
| 05:57.27 | onetwo | already has like 500 effects |
| 05:57.31 | onetwo | for 10 spells |
| 05:57.36 | onetwo | that each have 10 levels |
| 06:01.54 | ProzaicMuze | you should make more spells |
| 06:01.55 | ProzaicMuze | that's not enough |
| 06:02.12 | ProzaicMuze | booooooring |
| 06:03.21 | onetwo | well im doing 7 spells per hero |
| 06:03.23 | onetwo | x 5 heroes |
| 06:03.25 | onetwo | boo |
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| 06:04.37 | supadots | where can i modify ally properties? |
| 06:04.52 | supadots | onetwo |
| 06:05.47 | supadots | +onetwo |
| 06:06.21 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:06.23 | onetwo | ally properties |
| 06:06.24 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:06.25 | onetwo | whats that |
| 06:06.40 | supadots | where you can set up if ppl are allys or not |
| 06:06.46 | supadots | like on a team |
| 06:06.54 | supadots | did you ever play wc3? |
| 06:07.02 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:07.05 | onetwo | so its different now |
| 06:07.09 | crazyfingers | why so many effects? why not use upgrades? |
| 06:07.11 | onetwo | not as easy |
| 06:07.24 | supadots | where do i go for it? |
| 06:07.31 | onetwo | i do all my alliances through triggers |
| 06:07.42 | onetwo | because im not confident in other way of doing it |
| 06:07.44 | crazyfingers | yeah, just do it through triggers |
| 06:07.47 | supadots | kk |
| 06:07.59 | onetwo | it involves using teams crap around Player Properties window, and then Game Variant stuff for lobby |
| 06:08.01 | onetwo | i believe... |
| 06:08.02 | supadots | fuck blllliiiizzzarrd |
| 06:08.08 | onetwo | na theyre good |
| 06:08.09 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:08.11 | supadots | lol |
| 06:08.19 | supadots | they change shit that doesnt need changed |
| 06:08.32 | crazyfingers | arg, onetwo, you should totally do upgrades |
| 06:08.39 | crazyfingers | i was super surprised how easy it was to use them |
| 06:09.10 | crazyfingers | just tell the upgrade which weapon to affect |
| 06:09.16 | crazyfingers | and which stats in that upgrade to affect |
| 06:09.20 | crazyfingers | err weapon |
| 06:09.33 | onetwo | well with abilities |
| 06:09.34 | crazyfingers | you can add or multiply, though i would recommend adding |
| 06:09.36 | onetwo | and the hero learn ability |
| 06:09.47 | onetwo | i just am doing it the default way |
| 06:09.54 | crazyfingers | well yeah, you have to |
| 06:09.59 | crazyfingers | but for level 2 of whatever ability |
| 06:10.02 | crazyfingers | use upgrades |
| 06:10.35 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:11.03 | crazyfingers | that way if you need to adjust leveling systems and damage, instead of adjusting 10 effects |
| 06:11.08 | crazyfingers | you adjust 1 affect and 1 upgrade |
| 06:11.45 | crazyfingers | there's also triggers to set upgrade levels if you want to get tricky |
| 06:11.56 | onetwo | ah yeah |
| 06:11.59 | onetwo | well maybe next time |
| 06:11.59 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:12.01 | crazyfingers | this way you can use triggers to set damage levels and stuff |
| 06:12.02 | onetwo | already done so many |
| 06:12.07 | crazyfingers | haha, ok dude |
| 06:12.16 | crazyfingers | I'd HIGHLY reccomend going back and learning how to do upgrades |
| 06:12.24 | crazyfingers | it'll save you time in the long run and give you far more options |
| 06:12.33 | onetwo | youre 100% right |
| 06:12.49 | crazyfingers | but whatever's more fun for you ;) we're not exactly getting paid for htis |
| 06:13.25 | onetwo | not yet we arent |
| 06:13.26 | onetwo | ZINGGGGGGGGGG |
| 06:13.46 | crazyfingers | fingers crossed |
| 06:13.47 | onetwo | sixen's working on a solution so our mapping will get us http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y |
| 06:13.52 | crazyfingers | course it's a long shot |
| 06:13.56 | onetwo | lol |
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| 06:14.22 | crazyfingers | haha, arab money huh? |
| 06:14.28 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:14.32 | onetwo | yeah hes trying to bring in dubai money |
| 06:14.46 | crazyfingers | wth are you talking about? |
| 06:14.49 | onetwo | why do you think Sixen is having the 512x512 mapping contest |
| 06:14.55 | onetwo | dubai = bigger is better |
| 06:14.58 | onetwo | the mindset is here too |
| 06:15.14 | crazyfingers | hope someone figures that out |
| 06:15.15 | onetwo | sixen wants the biggest sc2 map in the world |
| 06:15.19 | crazyfingers | i could use the extra room |
| 06:15.23 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:15.24 | crazyfingers | map is kinda cramped |
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| 06:16.20 | crazyfingers | so you making an RPG onetwo? |
| 06:16.32 | crazyfingers | like a coop or Dota? |
| 06:17.50 | onetwo | RPG coop |
| 06:17.56 | onetwo | mix of Diablo 2 and wow |
| 06:18.03 | onetwo | its going okay |
| 06:18.04 | onetwo | lot of work |
| 06:18.08 | onetwo | i have like 10 quests done |
| 06:18.12 | onetwo | which takes you to leve l5 about |
| 06:18.12 | onetwo | level |
| 06:18.14 | onetwo | one boss done |
| 06:18.19 | onetwo | 1/8th of map done |
| 06:18.21 | onetwo | terrain |
| 06:18.26 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 06:18.27 | onetwo | 1.5/5 heroes done |
| 06:18.29 | ProzaicMuze | in other words he sucks |
| 06:18.35 | onetwo | i suck |
| 06:18.39 | Alpha_vst | meany |
| 06:18.42 | ProzaicMuze | ;) |
| 06:18.43 | onetwo | but wait till you play it |
| 06:18.48 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 06:18.49 | onetwo | remember those awesome first days in WoW |
| 06:18.49 | ProzaicMuze | I'm brutally honest, I know |
| 06:18.52 | onetwo | when it was magic and butter |
| 06:18.56 | ProzaicMuze | I'm gonna play it JUST so I can see my own work :D |
| 06:18.58 | onetwo | i hope to not recreate that |
| 06:19.03 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 06:19.03 | onetwo | instead i aim to annoy the player |
| 06:19.06 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:19.10 | onetwo | yeah prozaic |
| 06:19.19 | ProzaicMuze | and it better be freaking awesome |
| 06:19.24 | ProzaicMuze | or I'll be very sad :( |
| 06:21.17 | crazyfingers | nice nice |
| 06:21.42 | onetwo | i hope to have a private test going |
| 06:21.45 | onetwo | during 2nd phase |
| 06:21.46 | crazyfingers | i prefer annoying games |
| 06:21.49 | onetwo | but i hate playing non final things |
| 06:21.52 | ProzaicMuze | I better be invited |
| 06:21.57 | onetwo | yeah :D |
| 06:22.00 | onetwo | any one here is |
| 06:22.01 | crazyfingers | make sure the first starting attack of the warrior is the strongest in the game |
| 06:22.04 | onetwo | and likewise to test your maps |
| 06:22.06 | crazyfingers | to make all the upgrading meaningless |
| 06:22.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:22.14 | crazyfingers | i love when games do that |
| 06:22.20 | crazyfingers | *looks at torchlight* |
| 06:22.26 | ProzaicMuze | add a grenade launcher too |
| 06:22.40 | ProzaicMuze | that has a blast radius of the whole map, but has only a teeny tiny visual explosion |
| 06:22.42 | ProzaicMuze | then enable PvP |
| 06:22.54 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:22.57 | ProzaicMuze | Play us some D2 CoD! |
| 06:23.10 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:23.24 | crazyfingers | there were so many amazing map demos not long ago |
| 06:23.28 | crazyfingers | that first person marine one |
| 06:23.33 | crazyfingers | and the world of starcraft |
| 06:23.36 | crazyfingers | reaper madness |
| 06:23.42 | crazyfingers | but lately there hasn't been crap |
| 06:23.46 | crazyfingers | save a couple dota clones |
| 06:23.57 | crazyfingers | what happened? |
| 06:24.23 | onetwo | were all busy building bnet maps |
| 06:24.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:24.56 | crazyfingers | eh, i just hope there are some super awesome maps near launch |
| 06:26.07 | ProzaicMuze | the REAL mappers are still finishing their 1st maps |
| 06:26.16 | ProzaicMuze | those "awesome maps" were rough drafts by bums |
| 06:26.17 | ProzaicMuze | <.< |
| 06:26.18 | ProzaicMuze | >.> |
| 06:26.45 | dimfish | didn't play a warrior in torchlight, crazyfingers, I played the wizard (alchemist?) and went summoning. It was fun for a good while |
| 06:26.46 | crazyfingers | they looked like super early releases |
| 06:27.18 | crazyfingers | yeah, torchlight was pretty good for the dev cycle |
| 06:27.42 | crazyfingers | but it just screamed diablo clone and wow clone (in regards to graphics) |
| 06:27.48 | crazyfingers | it was just blizzard light |
| 06:28.01 | crazyfingers | they didn't push the boundaries in any form but it was fun for 5 bucks |
| 06:28.19 | crazyfingers | in my book the weakest link was the skill system though |
| 06:28.21 | crazyfingers | worse than diablo II for sure |
| 06:28.55 | Triceron | of torchlight? |
| 06:29.24 | Triceron | I always hated Diablo 2's skill system in terms of the fact you get useless spells. |
| 06:29.33 | Triceron | and no respeccing |
| 06:29.44 | Triceron | synergy was nice, but just shows how useless some spells are. |
| 06:30.03 | crazyfingers | torchlight had the same issues, only more worthless skills |
| 06:30.09 | crazyfingers | not in volume but in % |
| 06:30.30 | crazyfingers | there were plenty of passive bonuses to spec in diablo II |
| 06:30.33 | crazyfingers | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:30.38 | crazyfingers | in torchlight it was pick 1 skill |
| 06:30.39 | crazyfingers | done |
| 06:30.42 | crazyfingers | couple passives |
| 06:30.51 | onetwo | the smart thing about WoW which im trying to do in my rpg is abilities are levelable and useful up to max level |
| 06:31.01 | onetwo | so all heroes get 7 abils to choose from at the start, all level up to my max level |
| 06:31.03 | onetwo | so its up to you |
| 06:31.07 | onetwo | to choose |
| 06:31.23 | onetwo | diablo 2 had the issue that you get a spell at level 1 |
| 06:31.24 | crazyfingers | cool |
| 06:31.27 | onetwo | youd have it maxed by 20 |
| 06:31.33 | onetwo | so it loses affect when youre level 80 |
| 06:31.34 | crazyfingers | i still haven't figured out how i'm going to do my skill system |
| 06:31.42 | onetwo | well i thought about it for a while crazyfingers |
| 06:31.43 | crazyfingers | worried about making it too complicated but want it super open ended |
| 06:32.09 | onetwo | i have 30 hero levels, and 7 abilities per hero with 10 ranks each... means 70 points to choose from and only 30 to spend... should lead to unique hero choices |
| 06:32.15 | onetwo | no spells are restricted to levels |
| 06:32.19 | onetwo | aside from relearning them takes 3 |
| 06:32.32 | onetwo | eg rank 1 at level 1, rank 2 at level 4 |
| 06:32.33 | onetwo | etc |
| 06:32.45 | onetwo | but then i run the issue of someone putting 5 points in 7 abilities |
| 06:32.48 | Triceron | I like talents |
| 06:32.48 | onetwo | and having nothing maxed |
| 06:32.50 | onetwo | and being weaker |
| 06:32.56 | onetwo | well talents would take too long in sc2 |
| 06:32.57 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:32.59 | Triceron | like ways to improve older skills |
| 06:33.01 | Triceron | or 'useless' |
| 06:33.09 | Triceron | like if you have a weak firebolt |
| 06:33.26 | Triceron | have talents that make it free to cast, or it'll proc something like multiple casts |
| 06:33.44 | Triceron | just some reason to use it instad of the uber uber ultimate skill |
| 06:34.10 | onetwo | im sure the system in WoW they have built |
| 06:34.12 | onetwo | to make talents |
| 06:34.15 | onetwo | is a lot easier than using data editor |
| 06:34.17 | onetwo | with validators |
| 06:34.17 | crazyfingers | make it so it procs a long lasting buff |
| 06:34.19 | onetwo | to set that up |
| 06:34.19 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:34.22 | Triceron | yeah |
| 06:34.24 | crazyfingers | that buffs other crap |
| 06:34.35 | Triceron | they've worked on WoW so long, they must have made a super optimized system |
| 06:34.42 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:35.42 | Triceron | something like firebolts can crit, compared to a fireball that does splash but can't crit. I like that kind of meaningful choice. |
| 06:36.52 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:36.55 | onetwo | i wish i could do that |
| 06:36.57 | onetwo | in a timely manner |
| 06:36.58 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:37.08 | Triceron | I hate static 'bonus damage' |
| 06:37.17 | Triceron | I love it when you attach stuff that changes the mechanic of a spell |
| 06:37.21 | Triceron | and in turn changes the way you use it |
| 06:37.53 | Triceron | like some talents in WoW can make a 1 second cast spell into instant. That changes the mechanic of the spell completely, because now you can cast on the move or between attacks |
| 06:38.15 | Triceron | so a fighter using the spell uses it way differently from a caster |
| 06:38.30 | Triceron | it's all towards the style of your play |
| 06:39.07 | onetwo | i mean, i want dungeons, enough quests to get to level 30, 5 heroes, items for each hero, unique items and equipment items etc, misc items, mobs, abilities, pvp arena, hero saving/loading up to 3 slots, AND THEN balance on top of all this. |
| 06:39.12 | Triceron | even though WoW is a bit linear in their talent trees (no hybrids, go all or nothing to optimize) |
| 06:39.15 | onetwo | i dont know what ill finish |
| 06:39.19 | onetwo | :/ |
| 06:39.39 | Triceron | pvp is a nice addition |
| 06:39.42 | Triceron | and a great draw |
| 06:39.47 | Triceron | but it'll be a pain to develop and balance. |
| 06:39.51 | onetwo | and of course i need a working death system |
| 06:39.55 | onetwo | because none exists atm |
| 06:39.55 | Triceron | unless that's your focus. |
| 06:40.01 | onetwo | na |
| 06:40.07 | onetwo | pvp is my focus like it is for WoW pre TBC |
| 06:40.10 | onetwo | its there and works |
| 06:40.13 | onetwo | but pve is the goal |
| 06:40.17 | Triceron | it'll take a lot to balance |
| 06:40.24 | onetwo | yeah :/ |
| 06:40.27 | Triceron | and you might have to sacrifice singleplayer balance for that |
| 06:40.32 | onetwo | nevah!!! |
| 06:40.33 | Triceron | that's what I hated about WoW. |
| 06:40.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:40.41 | Triceron | how PVP takes priority |
| 06:40.44 | Triceron | even though it's shit |
| 06:40.51 | onetwo | its more fun imo |
| 06:40.52 | onetwo | thats why |
| 06:40.54 | Triceron | something's ALWAYS overpowered |
| 06:40.59 | Triceron | so they nerf it |
| 06:41.04 | Triceron | and it ultimately nerfs PVE |
| 06:41.08 | Triceron | but they don't really care |
| 06:41.19 | onetwo | wow cool |
| 06:41.22 | onetwo | for Korea: |
| 06:41.22 | onetwo | 1. Starcraft 2 will be free for WOW players. While you have the wow subscription on the battle.net account, you can just play starcraft 2 for free. (so its not wow subscription anymore, its battle.net 2.0 subscription) |
| 06:41.40 | onetwo | no wonder it took them 7 years |
| 06:41.41 | Triceron | holy shit |
| 06:41.45 | onetwo | considering how different each region's bnet is |
| 06:41.45 | Triceron | well |
| 06:41.50 | Triceron | Koreans have a whole different system |
| 06:41.52 | onetwo | what a pain |
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| 06:42.01 | Triceron | most don't own computers |
| 06:42.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:42.10 | onetwo | nice |
| 06:42.11 | Triceron | so owning a game doesn't make sense to em |
| 06:42.15 | Triceron | they play in PC Bangs |
| 06:42.18 | Triceron | internet cafes |
| 06:42.26 | Triceron | they have tons of em in Korea |
| 06:42.55 | Triceron | so owning a physical copy of a game without owning a computer wouldn't work. stuff like WoW works cuz you don't need a physical copy, just an account |
| 06:43.11 | Triceron | you can run WoW off an ipod. |
| 06:43.38 | Triceron | i had a friend at work who was doing that |
| 06:43.51 | Triceron | I was like "dude, how are you playing WoW here? We can't install games" |
| 06:43.57 | Triceron | "Running through Ipod" |
| 06:44.06 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:44.43 | onetwo | i was laughing so hard today |
| 06:44.55 | onetwo | i recently discovered the "R1CH" guy on teamliquid |
| 06:44.58 | onetwo | and the story about him |
| 06:44.58 | onetwo | http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111649 |
| 06:44.59 | *** part/#sc2mapster dimfish (~James_Jen@pv131010.reshsg.uci.edu) |
| 06:45.04 | onetwo | the first 2 quotes are hilarious |
| 06:45.14 | onetwo | i love hot Hotbid tries to ask a smart question |
| 06:45.17 | onetwo | and r1ch catches him |
| 06:45.51 | onetwo | "do a backtrace" |
| 06:45.55 | onetwo | haha that kills me everytime i read that |
| 06:45.59 | onetwo | its such mumbo jumbo |
| 06:45.59 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 06:46.45 | Repo | 10sc2-map-analyzer: 03dimfish * r8 / (3 files in 1 directory): Couple minor changes. |
| 06:51.04 | Triceron | I love the other dude's technical talk |
| 06:51.11 | Triceron | just bullshitting it all the way |
| 06:51.27 | onetwo | hahah |
| 06:51.29 | onetwo | so funny |
| 06:51.36 | onetwo | [22:42] HotBid: r1ch have you tried modding your SSD by replacing it with a pata hd using the same ZIF connector |
| 06:51.37 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 06:51.40 | onetwo | wtf |
| 06:52.04 | onetwo | these questions are hilarious |
| 06:52.45 | Triceron | LOL the poll |
| 06:52.50 | onetwo | LOL |
| 06:52.52 | Triceron | "Did you understand what he just said" |
| 06:53.14 | onetwo | hahaha |
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| 06:55.04 | onetwo | haha his desktop |
| 06:55.05 | onetwo | http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/R1CH/R1CHDesktop.png |
| 06:55.05 | onetwo | wtf |
| 06:55.28 | ProzaicMuze | I was JUST looking at that |
| 06:55.33 | ProzaicMuze | holy mother. . . |
| 06:55.45 | Triceron | LOL |
| 06:55.47 | Triceron | I just saw that too |
| 06:56.02 | ProzaicMuze | how does he manage to keep anything organized!? It's just chaos! |
| 06:56.05 | Furyhunter | that's awesome. |
| 06:56.20 | onetwo | i like his post to blizzard |
| 06:56.22 | onetwo | and this: |
| 06:56.23 | onetwo | Blizzard Fix Your Lag On December 16 2008 19:18 R1CH wrote: So I finally got around to taking a look at the lag issues in 1.16. Seems someone at Blizzard thought it would be a good idea to throw a 10ms delay into the game loop AND a 5ms delay after processing the Windows message queue. 15ms of delays in a game that previously has 0ms of delays can mess up quite a few things, as evidenced by the problems the early versions of CPU Sa |
| 06:56.32 | onetwo | never have made it past QA, if there even was any. |
| 06:56.34 | onetwo | he seems pretty smart |
| 06:56.36 | onetwo | and knowledgable |
| 06:57.21 | Triceron | autistic savant |
| 06:57.38 | Triceron | he talks in code |
| 06:57.40 | ProzaicMuze | it's more like he's a total server junkie |
| 06:58.04 | ProzaicMuze | it's like someone who is speaking galaxy code, car parts or anything else with its own language lol |
| 06:58.28 | Triceron | but I don't think he realizes it :P |
| 06:59.00 | ProzaicMuze | I still think this is the best part of it all: |
| 06:59.02 | ProzaicMuze | "I would appreciate being informed of any updates to this issue, as if no action is taken I will make my own unofficial patch to address this bug. Thanks!" |
| 06:59.17 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:59.21 | ProzaicMuze | as in "Fix your crap or I'll fix it for you. . . idiots" |
| 07:01.13 | Alpha_vst | lol what |
| 07:02.27 | rrowland | Wow that desktop |
| 07:02.32 | rrowland | First of all, lol windows 98 |
| 07:03.22 | onetwo | its like some rule that server people or computer-adept people use old "gray-looking" versions of windows |
| 07:03.24 | rrowland | That must be an old ass picture |
| 07:03.26 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:03.37 | rrowland | That looks like an old version of mirc or something |
| 07:04.06 | rrowland | Also must have been before closing programs was invented |
| 07:04.11 | onetwo | it must be funny for blizzard |
| 07:04.14 | onetwo | dealing with people like this |
| 07:05.46 | Alpha_vst | fyi who ever got me to start watching once piece i hate... |
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| 07:10.16 | ProzaicMuze | then stop watching and kill said person? |
| 07:11.19 | rrowland | once piece? |
| 07:12.12 | onetwo | one piece |
| 07:12.23 | onetwo | a show i saw on tv a long time ago |
| 07:12.25 | onetwo | and disregarded it |
| 07:12.36 | onetwo | as one of the post-pokemon fall out shows that isnt ever going to reach the height |
| 07:12.46 | onetwo | of our 90's childhood shows |
| 07:12.51 | rrowland | It's an anime? |
| 07:12.54 | onetwo | yes |
| 07:12.56 | rrowland | Alpha you are homosexual |
| 07:13.33 | Kaseano | any1 know what requirements on an item do |
| 07:13.53 | rrowland | I never got the appeal of anime |
| 07:14.16 | rrowland | The animation is bad, the story lines are usually shallow, the voice overs are bad |
| 07:15.20 | rrowland | And they must all be drawn by the same guy cause they all look exactly the same |
| 07:16.12 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:16.44 | rrowland | When I was a lot younger I was into pokemon and dbz for like a year |
| 07:16.46 | onetwo | like when family guy went to china town, and Peter kept calling every asian guy Jackie Chan... but then every asian guy was calling him Mel Gibson or w/e |
| 07:16.55 | onetwo | everyone was rrowland |
| 07:17.08 | picklefish1 | do we know what kind of plug-in support the map editor is going to have? |
| 07:17.15 | rrowland | But it was because it was a fad not because I liked it |
| 07:17.44 | picklefish1 | rrowland: you weren |
| 07:17.50 | picklefish1 | you were broken then*( |
| 07:17.56 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:17.58 | picklefish1 | because they were both cool as shit |
| 07:18.00 | onetwo | i liked the cards and gameboy games |
| 07:18.09 | rrowland | lol |
| 07:18.09 | onetwo | it was something totally new |
| 07:18.11 | rrowland | I'll admit |
| 07:18.13 | onetwo | then I played blizzard games |
| 07:18.18 | rrowland | If I'm making money when the next pokemon game comes out |
| 07:18.19 | Kaseano | +onetwo that vid for hero abilities was really helpful |
| 07:18.19 | onetwo | and it was like wow... previous game designes sucked |
| 07:18.21 | rrowland | I will probably buy it |
| 07:18.26 | onetwo | cool kaseano |
| 07:18.28 | onetwo | :D |
| 07:18.29 | picklefish1 | yo-yos -> pogs -> magic cards -> pokemon -> DBZ -> high school |
| 07:18.33 | Kaseano | yeah just lettin u know I really appreciate it :) |
| 07:18.38 | onetwo | awesome thats good |
| 07:18.48 | rrowland | pogs were sweet |
| 07:18.54 | rrowland | yoyos were sweet too, but expensive |
| 07:19.03 | rrowland | magic cards are still cool although I don't play them anymore |
| 07:19.04 | picklefish1 | indeed |
| 07:19.20 | picklefish1 | bideo games trumph everything now |
| 07:19.25 | rrowland | pokemon seems to be getting out of hand |
| 07:19.34 | rrowland | But the new games are always fun |
| 07:19.39 | picklefish1 | Anyone happen to know what kind of plug-in support blizzard is planning for map editor? |
| 07:19.55 | rrowland | I don't |
| 07:20.32 | rrowland | I remember in DBZ it took like 2 weeks worth of episodes to play 10 minutes of story line |
| 07:21.05 | rrowland | Most of it was panning across one of the characters from one side of the camera to the other while they were on fire and going GRRRR |
| 07:21.28 | picklefish1 | rrowland: that was the worst |
| 07:21.34 | picklefish1 | I only watched the Buu saga |
| 07:21.57 | rrowland | I watched the cell one |
| 07:22.28 | rrowland | Sadly I didn't watch the one where it was OVER 9000!? |
| 07:23.38 | picklefish1 | I wouldn't have remembered it if I had |
| 07:24.24 | picklefish1 | is denmark -1 or -2? |
| 07:24.27 | picklefish1 | timezone |
| 07:24.55 | rrowland | cet |
| 07:24.57 | rrowland | is +1 |
| 07:24.59 | crazyfingers | arg i just missed a ton of cool RPG dynamic talk :( |
| 07:25.08 | Clord | dragonball... it is about two flashy guys constantly battling eachother stayling still while there is beam going on |
| 07:25.09 | Clord | XD |
| 07:25.10 | picklefish1 | whoops got my pluses and minuses mixed |
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| 07:25.36 | rrowland | whats his power level |
| 07:25.38 | rrowland | 2 million? |
| 07:25.42 | rrowland | he must be a super saiyan |
| 07:25.45 | rrowland | ahhhhhhhh! |
| 07:26.09 | Clord | when people see dragoball as something worth to buy... it is good time to sell sprite comics |
| 07:26.10 | Clord | lol |
| 07:26.29 | rrowland | What's a sprite comic |
| 07:26.37 | crazyfingers | haha, it's funny how the japanese were able to keep that same storyline going simply by changing hair color, length, and numeric power levels that meant absolutely nothing |
| 07:26.50 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 07:26.56 | rrowland | woah he's a super saiyan number 3 |
| 07:27.01 | rrowland | cause his hair is so long |
| 07:27.02 | Phaos | "VAGETA! What does the scouter say?!" "1006" "What.... Really?" "Naw I'm just messing with you IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!" |
| 07:28.15 | rrowland | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Over_9000 |
| 07:28.42 | Furyhunter | vegeta* |
| 07:28.43 | Phaos | hero 1 kills villian 1, hero 1 is happy, villian 2 has more power, kills hero1, hero 2+3 keep villian 2 busy, hero 1 is revived more powerful, hero1 kills villian 2, Rinse and repeat |
| 07:29.08 | Phaos | it's more the way they say it than the actual spelling furyhunter |
| 07:29.08 | rrowland | lol in the newer version they say 8000 |
| 07:29.14 | Furyhunter | right. |
| 07:29.28 | rrowland | oh shit |
| 07:29.31 | rrowland | that's nws sorry |
| 07:29.33 | rrowland | didn't notice |
| 07:30.16 | rrowland | ahahahahaha |
| 07:30.17 | rrowland | ahaha |
| 07:30.25 | rrowland | Watch the oprah video on that page |
| 07:30.26 | rrowland | hahaha |
| 07:30.36 | Kaseano | +onetwo On the learn ability sub menu, I can't get "Learn [Ability]" to show up on the command under Learn ability |
| 07:31.23 | onetwo | sorry was on phone |
| 07:31.27 | onetwo | on the units command card? |
| 07:31.40 | Kaseano | yeah |
| 07:31.57 | onetwo | so on CC 1 |
| 07:32.02 | Kaseano | not even really sure where you got "Learn [Ability]" for the command |
| 07:32.10 | onetwo | its the one we made |
| 07:32.12 | Kaseano | I dont think it's looking for a button |
| 07:32.32 | Kaseano | well "Learn Ability" was an ability, the there's the [ability] like "heal" |
| 07:32.38 | onetwo | yeah |
| 07:32.41 | onetwo | so your hero needs heal |
| 07:32.41 | Kaseano | you had "Learn Heal" as one of the commands tho |
| 07:32.42 | onetwo | and Learn |
| 07:32.51 | onetwo | i did healing? |
| 07:32.55 | Kaseano | all I have is a "Learn Heal" Button |
| 07:32.58 | Kaseano | na just an example |
| 07:33.04 | Kaseano | mine's heal |
| 07:33.08 | onetwo | you should have 3 buttons |
| 07:33.10 | onetwo | in this example |
| 07:33.13 | onetwo | Learn Abilities |
| 07:33.14 | onetwo | Learn Heal |
| 07:33.16 | onetwo | Heal |
| 07:33.25 | onetwo | Learn Abilitites button used to go to command card 2 |
| 07:33.29 | onetwo | learn heal used on CC 2 |
| 07:33.31 | onetwo | Heal on CC 1 |
| 07:33.46 | Kaseano | yeah so I used Learn Heal as a Button |
| 07:34.02 | onetwo | on CC 1 should be 2 custom buttons in this example |
| 07:34.06 | onetwo | custom button 1 is Heal |
| 07:34.09 | onetwo | with ability of Heal |
| 07:34.12 | onetwo | and ability Command Heal |
| 07:34.13 | Kaseano | but then it says Command Type: Ability Command, Requirements: None, Ability: Learn Ability, Ability Command: (none) |
| 07:34.13 | onetwo | too |
| 07:34.19 | onetwo | THEN |
| 07:34.23 | onetwo | you have another button on right |
| 07:34.29 | onetwo | which is Learn Abilities |
| 07:34.34 | onetwo | command Type: Submenu |
| 07:34.39 | onetwo | submenu 2 |
| 07:34.45 | onetwo | learn ability |
| 07:34.50 | onetwo | select yours |
| 07:34.50 | Clord | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_comic |
| 07:34.59 | Kaseano | yeah I'm trying to figure out on the submenu what to use for the Ability Command |
| 07:35.02 | Kaseano | cus it's empty right now |
| 07:35.10 | Kaseano | and there are no choices |
| 07:35.31 | Kaseano | trying to figure out how you got your choices for "Learn Heal" under the Ability Command on Learn Ability |
| 07:35.55 | Kaseano | mayb it's something I have to do under abilities for "Learn Ability" |
| 07:36.07 | onetwo | 1. your hero should have abilities: Heal and Learn |
| 07:36.12 | onetwo | he needs both abilities themselves |
| 07:36.15 | onetwo | then in command card |
| 07:36.23 | onetwo | you set the heal button, the submenu button linked to Learn |
| 07:36.23 | Kaseano | k |
| 07:36.25 | onetwo | and then on command card 2 |
| 07:36.30 | onetwo | the Learn ability command |
| 07:36.43 | onetwo | you also need your learn button set in the Learn itself |
| 07:36.50 | onetwo | maybe watch my vid again |
| 07:36.54 | onetwo | i definitely cover this |
| 07:36.57 | onetwo | youll catch what you missed |
| 07:36.59 | onetwo | just the data part |
| 07:37.01 | Kaseano | oh ok I must have missed something |
| 07:37.02 | Kaseano | ok |
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| 07:37.10 | onetwo | youll pay attention more |
| 07:37.12 | Kaseano | alright cool thx I'll go watch it :) |
| 07:37.12 | onetwo | now that you know |
| 07:37.16 | onetwo | thx for doing that :D |
| 07:37.47 | Kaseano | oh is it under the ability or under the unit's CCs |
| 07:38.12 | Kaseano | that's like two vids back for the "Learn Abilities" |
| 07:38.33 | Kaseano | ah I'll figure it out :) thx +onetwo |
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| 07:38.36 | onetwo | np |
| 07:38.36 | onetwo | sry |
| 07:38.37 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:39.35 | Kaseano | Oh right I didn't set the Default Button |
| 07:39.42 | Kaseano | under Ability - info - button :) |
| 07:39.46 | Kaseano | which was in your vid whoops :) |
| 07:40.13 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:40.14 | onetwo | nice |
| 07:40.14 | onetwo | kk |
| 07:40.42 | onetwo | its kind of redundant i find |
| 07:40.43 | Kaseano | it's weird that you have to set it twice |
| 07:40.44 | Kaseano | yeah |
| 07:40.44 | onetwo | clunky |
| 07:40.46 | Kaseano | just gonna say that lol |
| 07:40.48 | onetwo | hero stuff is |
| 07:40.54 | onetwo | hence why ive been slow to roll out items tutorial |
| 07:40.54 | Kaseano | I wonder which one it actually uses, the CC one or the default button |
| 07:40.57 | onetwo | were in beta :/ |
| 07:41.22 | Kaseano | haha the items took me FOREVER to get working lol |
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| 07:42.10 | onetwo | lol |
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| 07:43.25 | madsquare | good morning |
| 07:43.58 | Krakarn | oh god |
| 07:44.04 | Krakarn | what a hangover |
| 07:44.22 | Krakarn | :P |
| 07:44.26 | onetwo | the de and se boys are in |
| 07:44.29 | onetwo | riv.bahnhof.se] |
| 07:44.33 | onetwo | kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de |
| 07:44.34 | onetwo | lol |
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| 07:44.38 | onetwo | and now the pl |
| 07:44.51 | Krakarn | :) |
| 07:44.54 | onetwo | its 9:44am europe |
| 07:44.56 | onetwo | in * |
| 07:45.01 | onetwo | you guys get up so early! |
| 07:45.57 | Krakarn | yea. bad idea. but im kinda stressed gotta be out of here in 6 hours |
| 07:46.05 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:46.44 | madsquare | im ill this day |
| 07:46.55 | madsquare | i was wondering |
| 07:47.23 | madsquare | is there any known way to make morecliffs levels than the standart ones? |
| 07:47.28 | onetwo | nope |
| 07:48.19 | madsquare | i really hope they will include the ability to at least the levels in the data editor somewhere |
| 07:48.22 | madsquare | its annoying |
| 07:50.40 | Kaseano | +onetwo I have about 10 different heros, and about half the abilities are shared, you think it'd work to use One "Learn Abilities" with all the abilities, then use the unit/ccs to control which abilities each hero gets ? |
| 07:50.51 | Kaseano | instead of making 10 different "Learn Abilities" abilities |
| 07:51.21 | onetwo | might as well try it first |
| 07:51.24 | onetwo | seems like it could work |
| 07:51.38 | Kaseano | ok :) just thought I'd check before I wasted a whole bunch of time haha |
| 07:54.22 | crazyfingers | ughhhh |
| 07:54.30 | crazyfingers | why does modding have to take so long |
| 07:54.44 | crazyfingers | worked all day and it feels like i did nothing |
| 07:54.52 | Phaos | because GE is far more complex so you can make what you want, thus more things need to be changed |
| 07:55.17 | crazyfingers | yeah i guess so, i want a beer |
| 07:55.25 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/jungle-marine/. Jungle Marine. SqueakyFeet (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:56.02 | Phaos | it took me like 4 hours just to get my science vessel working :P a flying half sized command center with a psi indoctrinator attached to a target point on the coomand center |
| 07:56.05 | Phaos | took way too long |
| 07:56.20 | Phaos | albiet most of that was me whinging for someone to show me how to attach things |
| 07:56.55 | crazyfingers | hmm, could you have just changed the actor? |
| 07:57.04 | crazyfingers | to be the command center |
| 07:57.26 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz * r46 YABOT (13 files in 3 directories): [1] The Lost Temple map is now in a semi-playable state. |
| 07:57.28 | Repo | [2] Started debugging main map triggers to get the map back to how it was before starting the conversion. |
| 07:57.29 | Repo | [3] Deleted StringUtils.galaxy because it was unused |
| 07:57.31 | Repo | [4] Working from MapScript.galaxy now for insertion into Lost Temple YABOT 0.1.8.SC2Map |
| 07:58.08 | Phaos | well thats what I did crazy, the main actor was a CC with a secondary actor attached to it to "augment" the model |
| 07:58.32 | Phaos | but now that it prepared it's great :P |
| 07:58.56 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:59.02 | onetwo | note to anyone doing hero abilities |
| 07:59.10 | onetwo | you cant have multiple levels of Augment abilities like Charge |
| 07:59.16 | onetwo | so have to find other ways around it |
| 07:59.26 | onetwo | using behaviors or tricky requirements/validators |
| 07:59.53 | Phaos | could not have multiple versions of charge and just swap them with each new "level" where the "level" abilitie in the learn tab is just a analouge ? |
| 08:00.03 | Kaseano | really |
| 08:00.12 | onetwo | Phaos |
| 08:00.14 | onetwo | thats the trick |
| 08:00.19 | Phaos | :P |
| 08:00.21 | onetwo | but theres no easy way to just have levels |
| 08:00.25 | onetwo | like other abilities |
| 08:00.32 | onetwo | and with Learning |
| 08:00.35 | onetwo | that would require a dummy ability |
| 08:00.39 | onetwo | it gets confusing |
| 08:01.11 | Phaos | spose :P |
| 08:01.25 | Kaseano | wow was just about to do an augment ability |
| 08:01.32 | madsquare | well we dont have the luxury to walk to the editor coding team tell them 'guys i need XY for my map'. |
| 08:01.35 | Kaseano | that sucks |
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| 08:02.31 | onetwo | actually we do |
| 08:02.36 | onetwo | just takes time |
| 08:02.39 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:02.47 | madsquare | we can post it and hope |
| 08:03.13 | onetwo | they do read our editor suggestions forums |
| 08:03.15 | onetwo | i was told by sixen |
| 08:03.31 | onetwo | but theres always an agenda and corporate chain |
| 08:03.31 | madsquare | ye |
| 08:03.37 | onetwo | wholl want certain things to be done on developer time |
| 08:03.37 | madsquare | its just different |
| 08:03.48 | madsquare | ye |
| 08:04.11 | madsquare | if the leveldesigner says i need that in 6hours or we wont make it till release they will do it asap (probably) |
| 08:04.23 | madsquare | community posts are |
| 08:04.39 | madsquare | a community suggestion. ye that looks good. put it on the list' |
| 08:05.08 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:06.07 | madsquare | but its about the fun making it right? |
| 08:06.46 | madsquare | altough i cant wait to release my stuff and get feedback im a bit pissed if its done because i have nothing to do until i have another concept |
| 08:06.54 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:08.32 | crazyfingers | I'd imagine blizzard is just jaded at this point |
| 08:08.45 | crazyfingers | anyone worth their salt at that company is sitting on piles of gold |
| 08:08.54 | Phaos | what date does beta start again ? |
| 08:08.54 | crazyfingers | or probably got offered more money elsewhere and left |
| 08:08.54 | onetwo | they know everything :D |
| 08:09.00 | onetwo | just dont open their mouths till they finalize something |
| 08:09.09 | onetwo | beta starts early july |
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| 08:14.20 | madsquare | can you actually set the editors graphic somewhere? |
| 08:15.35 | madsquare | -.- |
| 08:15.46 | madsquare | file/preferences/video |
| 08:15.57 | onetwo | well that took care of itself |
| 08:16.57 | madsquare | i find it super strannge that grass and dirt are shiny when you have the settings on max |
| 08:17.13 | onetwo | i love the shine |
| 08:17.15 | onetwo | it was in WoW too |
| 08:17.20 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 08:17.40 | onetwo | its the same reason why movie shoots spray the pavement with water |
| 08:17.42 | onetwo | bounces light |
| 08:17.45 | onetwo | but also looks nice on camera |
| 08:17.47 | onetwo | with reflections |
| 08:21.42 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 08:21.45 | onetwo | has been gone so long |
| 08:21.46 | onetwo | WOW |
| 08:21.48 | onetwo | he just logged in |
| 08:21.49 | Sixen | Sorry |
| 08:21.51 | onetwo | err came back |
| 08:21.52 | onetwo | wow |
| 08:21.55 | onetwo | i was just randomly |
| 08:21.58 | Sixen | My family came, I picked them up from the airport this morning. |
| 08:21.59 | onetwo | typing about you |
| 08:22.00 | onetwo | right now |
| 08:22.01 | onetwo | ah wow |
| 08:22.03 | Sixen | And they took us to a baseball game |
| 08:22.04 | Phaos | how do you set the default editor lighting I have changed it somehow O.o |
| 08:22.05 | Sixen | =X |
| 08:22.14 | Sixen | I saw the Yankees and Diamondbacks play... great game. |
| 08:22.32 | onetwo | haha nice |
| 08:22.39 | crazyfingers | I not a fan of baseball... or family for that matter haha |
| 08:22.40 | onetwo | View->Show Lighting |
| 08:22.41 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 08:22.45 | onetwo | i think |
| 08:22.46 | onetwo | set it to game |
| 08:22.58 | madsquare | also, file / pref / video / reset to default |
| 08:23.13 | Phaos | yay |
| 08:24.10 | Fisker | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:24.22 | Sixen | :( |
| 08:25.14 | Fisker | :) |
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| 08:27.11 | madsquare | is there actually someone who devoted himself (or themselves) to making high quality melee maps for the sports scene? |
| 08:27.25 | madsquare | esports* |
| 08:27.53 | crazyfingers | *shrug, I'm more interested in the custom maps |
| 08:27.57 | Krakarn | nope. im making a survival map |
| 08:28.34 | Phaos | there are lots of high quality melee maps, I just can't stand the semetry enough to bother making them my self. |
| 08:28.43 | Phaos | symetry >.> |
| 08:28.45 | madsquare | lots? |
| 08:28.54 | crazyfingers | symetemys |
| 08:28.55 | Phaos | sure |
| 08:29.06 | madsquare | ive seen only some (partially very poor) BW remakes |
| 08:29.12 | Phaos | look on curse gaming and sort by type melee |
| 08:29.21 | madsquare | ill check |
| 08:29.39 | onetwo | i have several problems with making Melee esports maps |
| 08:29.44 | crazyfingers | there any well made rpg maps out yet worth playing? |
| 08:30.02 | onetwo | 1. theres a very high standard of requirements for these maps, if you want to be successfull... gotta be symmetrical... gl doing that |
| 08:30.18 | onetwo | 2. the maps ive seen look so ugly from top-down |
| 08:30.21 | Phaos | symmetry is booorring |
| 08:30.32 | onetwo | 3. i dont know how to do teams and such for melee |
| 08:30.38 | Phaos | especially recreating the other half which is just a damn mirror of the rest of the map |
| 08:30.41 | onetwo | so im just going to stick to my rpg |
| 08:30.43 | onetwo | yeah |
| 08:31.22 | Phaos | I'm making a cooperative multiplayer campaign, so lots of excuse there for inventive map construction |
| 08:31.37 | madsquare | symetrie is not required, but it should be mirrored |
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| 08:32.04 | crazyfingers | what's the draw in making esports maps? |
| 08:32.11 | madsquare | i mean you can make like main natural 3rd then copy paste and rotate it 90* degree |
| 08:32.14 | crazyfingers | seems all tedium and no fun |
| 08:32.15 | onetwo | your map becomes famous |
| 08:32.17 | madsquare | for 4player maps |
| 08:32.23 | onetwo | and pro's al know you |
| 08:32.26 | onetwo | blizzard sees your map is good |
| 08:32.28 | onetwo | puts it in map pack |
| 08:32.30 | madsquare | what i like about it |
| 08:32.31 | onetwo | ladder play |
| 08:32.36 | onetwo | you get hired later |
| 08:32.39 | madsquare | what im doign your making a map is |
| 08:32.43 | madsquare | thinking |
| 08:32.44 | crazyfingers | i highly doubt it |
| 08:32.48 | madsquare | what do i want players to do? |
| 08:32.55 | onetwo | yeah |
| 08:32.56 | madsquare | how can i make them do it? |
| 08:33.00 | onetwo | you should have game experience |
| 08:33.00 | Phaos | so you make melee maps for the fame and not the love of making maps. GREAT! /sarcasim/ |
| 08:33.01 | onetwo | when making that |
| 08:33.07 | onetwo | a lot of mappers arent good at ladder play |
| 08:33.08 | onetwo | its a fact |
| 08:33.14 | onetwo | or the ones that do make melee maps |
| 08:33.14 | Sixen | :X |
| 08:33.15 | madsquare | and if i put this cliff two squares closer/further what efect will it have? |
| 08:33.15 | onetwo | are bad mappers |
| 08:33.22 | madsquare | toweers? LoS blcokers? |
| 08:33.25 | madsquare | rocks? expos? |
| 08:33.28 | madsquare | cliffs? |
| 08:33.29 | onetwo | yeah thats really good thinking madsquare |
| 08:33.32 | madsquare | water? |
| 08:33.34 | onetwo | melee requires |
| 08:33.39 | onetwo | intense though |
| 08:33.40 | onetwo | thought |
| 08:33.44 | onetwo | id rather just make cool terrain on my |
| 08:33.46 | onetwo | rpg |
| 08:34.01 | onetwo | no sarcasm btw |
| 08:34.04 | onetwo | on the thinking line |
| 08:34.04 | madsquare | i actually love those strategic thought |
| 08:34.14 | madsquare | and i wanted to become a high level player |
| 08:34.30 | madsquare | but i figured 'ok i would have to spend immensive amounts of time on emchanics' |
| 08:34.35 | madsquare | i did that before |
| 08:34.41 | madsquare | on MMORPGS |
| 08:34.43 | madsquare | 14h+ |
| 08:34.48 | madsquare | per day |
| 08:34.51 | onetwo | yeah that was enough for me back then |
| 08:34.52 | onetwo | on WoW |
| 08:34.56 | onetwo | i dont think i could ever do that again |
| 08:34.57 | onetwo | with any game |
| 08:34.59 | madsquare | but i want to have more of a life now |
| 08:34.59 | A1win | make a melee map and observe some skilled players playing in it against each other ;> |
| 08:35.02 | onetwo | same |
| 08:35.14 | madsquare | so im making melee maps and thinking through all the stuff you could do with the stuff i make |
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| 08:35.43 | onetwo | hi vajeux |
| 08:35.45 | Phaos | the thing is, alot of players need to play your map several times before they start showing "how it plays" they need time to learn the layout |
| 08:35.46 | vjeux | http://sc2movie.com/devtracker/2-25482320523/phase-2-is-gonna-blow-us-away.html |
| 08:35.47 | onetwo | oops |
| 08:35.50 | onetwo | i swear that was a typo!!! |
| 08:35.54 | vjeux | We have been monitoring the feedback around the map publishing features and the custom game functionality and we are aware of the need for improvement, especially for finding custom games and promoting your maps. The most pressing issues are going to be addressed by launch or in the first patch after release. Things like the abandoned lobby issue for example will be one of the issues that are going to be solved for launch. We rea |
| 08:36.09 | vjeux | hey onetwo :) |
| 08:36.18 | onetwo | yeah i ddidnt like that |
| 08:36.41 | onetwo | heres my response to that |
| 08:36.45 | onetwo | "Oh well, guess I'll just keep padding my custom maps to the 1st page to test them until the post-release patch. Create->Public->Quit->Create->Public->Quit->Create..." |
| 08:36.52 | vjeux | xD |
| 08:37.52 | Phaos | whats this about "improved art" the game is beutifiul, yokokurama is silly |
| 08:38.49 | onetwo | yeah |
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| 08:40.02 | Phaos | if he means he wants gears of war render graphics, good luck getting 200 of those models on screen at once without something exploding in your computer |
| 08:40.36 | Phaos | this is by far the prettiest fast paced RTS currently playable |
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| 08:41.21 | Phaos | his assumptions make me artist rage >: | ajshdfjahffaiowqweasfbg |
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| 08:43.25 | madsquare | :P |
| 08:48.01 | madsquare | can you reduce the range of watchtowers somewhere? |
| 08:48.21 | madsquare | i dont like that mine gives vision on a high ground but i cant really move it |
| 08:48.42 | onetwo | what |
| 08:48.49 | onetwo | xel naga watchtower sight range? |
| 08:49.00 | onetwo | all you have to do is find the xel naga unit |
| 08:49.04 | onetwo | find its sight radius stat |
| 08:49.09 | onetwo | and lower it from 20 or 22 or w/e it is |
| 08:49.23 | onetwo | but your changing a core gamplay thing |
| 08:49.25 | onetwo | :/ |
| 08:49.30 | onetwo | unless youre not doing a melee map |
| 08:50.08 | madsquare | im doing one |
| 08:50.33 | madsquare | i could of course claim its a feature that its giving viosion on the high ground hehe |
| 08:50.42 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:50.47 | onetwo | yeah totally |
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| 08:51.46 | madsquare | gota test it gameplay wise and then decide. |
| 08:53.43 | crazyfingers | Anyone know of a workaround to target "all units in unit group" rather than a random number |
| 08:55.21 | onetwo | click on the number |
| 08:55.28 | onetwo | well wait |
| 08:55.30 | onetwo | you cant target all units |
| 08:55.35 | onetwo | you can target a point |
| 08:55.36 | onetwo | a unit |
| 08:55.42 | madsquare | why not just set it to target the first 200 units in the group? |
| 08:55.47 | onetwo | what do you mean by target |
| 08:55.51 | onetwo | abilities dont target multi unit |
| 08:57.18 | crazyfingers | i mean i want to add a behavior to all last created units |
| 08:57.18 | crazyfingers | but the only fuction available is last created unit, rather than last created units, which is an option you can get when issuing unit orders |
| 08:57.18 | onetwo | Unit - Pick each Unit in Unit group |
| 08:57.18 | onetwo | set unit group to be last created units |
| 08:57.27 | onetwo | put the add behavior action inside this action |
| 08:57.31 | onetwo | then change unit to be Picked Unit |
| 08:57.31 | onetwo | done |
| 08:59.09 | crazyfingers | hmm you kinda lost me, how do you pick eack unit in unit group? |
| 08:59.34 | onetwo | action 1: Unit - Pick each Unit in Unit Group |
| 08:59.36 | onetwo | press ok |
| 08:59.48 | onetwo | click on the button to choose unit group |
| 08:59.48 | onetwo | for that action |
| 08:59.50 | onetwo | go to function |
| 08:59.53 | onetwo | find last created units |
| 08:59.54 | onetwo | press ok |
| 09:00.04 | onetwo | drag your previous "add behavior" action |
| 09:00.11 | onetwo | underneath the actions for this unit group pick each unit thing |
| 09:00.25 | onetwo | and then click on the unit for add behavior |
| 09:00.29 | onetwo | w/e it was before |
| 09:00.33 | onetwo | last created unit |
| 09:00.34 | onetwo | w/e you had |
| 09:00.39 | onetwo | then change it to picked unit |
| 09:00.40 | crazyfingers | ahh cool |
| 09:00.44 | onetwo | so itll pick each unit |
| 09:00.47 | onetwo | in last created units |
| 09:00.50 | crazyfingers | thanks, that was easier than i thought |
| 09:00.51 | onetwo | and add behavior to picked unit |
| 09:00.53 | onetwo | great function :D |
| 09:00.56 | onetwo | theres one for players too |
| 09:00.57 | crazyfingers | i was about to do some kind of weird array thing |
| 09:01.00 | onetwo | pick each is awesome |
| 09:01.00 | onetwo | haha |
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| 09:09.53 | Clord | I like these more complex array things compared to warcraft III |
| 09:10.04 | Clord | really reduces amount of need variables and makes triggers faster to do |
| 09:10.05 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:10.34 | onetwo | yah |
| 09:10.52 | onetwo | i made my Infection map so dynamic |
| 09:11.01 | onetwo | because originally if i wanted to add a new gun for survivors... SO much work |
| 09:11.04 | onetwo | to modify all my loops |
| 09:11.06 | onetwo | and dialogs |
| 09:11.14 | onetwo | but then i changed it to just be all variable controlled |
| 09:11.21 | onetwo | so i just edit my "define variables" trigger |
| 09:11.28 | onetwo | and all my other triggers that make dialogs |
| 09:11.30 | onetwo | would auto change |
| 09:11.31 | onetwo | nicely |
| 09:11.38 | onetwo | to w/e image for the gun |
| 09:11.40 | onetwo | and so on |
| 09:12.00 | Clord | yeah but I mean more that there can be more than one array in each variable |
| 09:12.12 | Clord | I guess you mean bit same |
| 09:12.13 | Clord | =) |
| 09:12.36 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:12.45 | onetwo | for my rpg's quests that helps |
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| 09:20.25 | Clord | was really handy in card system lol |
| 09:20.38 | Clord | first array in card related variables is player... second is.... |
| 09:20.41 | Clord | card number in pack |
| 09:20.43 | Clord | hand... |
| 09:20.45 | Clord | whatever ^^ |
| 09:21.22 | Clord | I have virtual card shop under construction... >_> |
| 09:22.37 | Clord | to make sure card is drawn with random picking system |
| 09:22.45 | Clord | it gonna need loop as some cards are not unlocked |
| 09:22.46 | Clord | ;) |
| 09:24.28 | ProzaicMuze | woah, trippy |
| 09:24.45 | ProzaicMuze | I just took a nap becauseI had a headache, and during my dream, I was still making maps :S |
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| 09:29.24 | ProzaicMuze | Sixen or Vjeux, one of you guys handy? |
| 09:29.40 | Sixen | Perfect timing, what's up |
| 09:30.20 | ProzaicMuze | I finished the beam beginner tutorial earlier today and was wondering if I was able to add it to the tutorial list or if only one of the authors listed can do so. |
| 09:31.08 | ProzaicMuze | Also asking because I'm going tot ackle 4-5 more tutorials from the request and wonding if I simply need to edit it myself or let you guys know as they are finished. |
| 09:31.10 | Sixen | You should be able to =) |
| 09:31.15 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 09:31.16 | Sixen | Page Management > Edit Page |
| 09:33.03 | madsquare | any nice way to remove placed light exept for ctrl+z ? |
| 09:33.08 | vjeux | yes i'm here |
| 09:33.31 | Sixen | got it already vjeux |
| 09:33.31 | Sixen | =] |
| 09:33.34 | vjeux | erg Sixen is faster :( |
| 09:33.38 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ by ProzaicMuze |
| 09:33.44 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 09:34.11 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/3939-data-working-with-beams-beginner-difficulty/#p2 |
| 09:34.15 | ProzaicMuze | In case you wanted to look at it |
| 09:34.34 | ProzaicMuze | I think I'm going to do unit attachments with Site Operations and Actors in general next |
| 09:34.58 | ProzaicMuze | A lot of the PM's Queries I get have been about Actors or how to make the beam "start from this point" |
| 09:35.23 | ProzaicMuze | Do you know if anyone else is already working on one or if there is a place to look for one already in progress? |
| 09:45.23 | Sixen | Good stuff, Prozaic. And no, not that I know of |
| 09:47.11 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, no worries. |
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| 10:08.30 | rrowland | Anybody know if there's a way to make the map darker (pitch black even? |
| 10:08.44 | rrowland | ) without changing the UI color? |
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| 10:09.37 | crazyfingers | anyone figure out how to get damage response behaviors to work by decreasing incoming damage? |
| 10:09.55 | crazyfingers | rrowland have you tried adjusting lighting? |
| 10:10.09 | rrowland | Yes obviously lol |
| 10:10.18 | crazyfingers | and that affects the ui? |
| 10:10.20 | crazyfingers | that's odd |
| 10:10.24 | rrowland | Making lighting darker affects the UI yeah |
| 10:10.46 | rrowland | I'm hoping I'm doing it wrong |
| 10:10.50 | rrowland | And someone knows how to do it right |
| 10:11.00 | heysparky | I managed to unwittingly toggle of units/doodads on my terrain, anyone know the hotkey to turn them back on? (visuals) |
| 10:11.05 | rrowland | Cause it would suck pretty hard if that's working as intended |
| 10:11.21 | onetwo | try different values when you modify lighting |
| 10:11.25 | onetwo | maybe some dont affect UI |
| 10:11.29 | onetwo | theres so many options |
| 10:11.31 | onetwo | under lighting |
| 10:12.14 | rrowland | shift D |
| 10:12.22 | rrowland | heysparky |
| 10:12.58 | heysparky | boo urns... not working, time to reload. |
| 10:13.07 | rrowland | switch out of doodads |
| 10:13.10 | rrowland | and do it |
| 10:13.16 | rrowland | You can't toggle it when you're in it |
| 10:14.03 | heysparky | oh, good to note |
| 10:14.05 | heysparky | ty |
| 10:14.21 | heysparky | (adds shft-D to the things rrowland has helped with) |
| 10:14.43 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:14.45 | rrowland | np |
| 10:17.21 | heysparky | I watched "Young at Heart" tonight... documentary about a chorus of old folks, their average age is 80 and they do modern songs... probably the highlight was their video for "I Wanna Be Sedated" |
| 10:17.40 | heysparky | the lyrics are poigniantly appropriate to the very old |
| 10:17.55 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:17.58 | rrowland | sounds uplifting |
| 10:18.28 | rrowland | Okay so all of my aspirations involving lighting were just dashed |
| 10:18.38 | rrowland | I need to redo my sniper wars map... |
| 10:18.48 | rrowland | Since low graphics settings doesn't even use lighting |
| 10:18.51 | rrowland | It just makes everything bright |
| 10:18.56 | heysparky | ohnoes |
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| 10:20.09 | rrowland | eh it's taking too much work for me to not get frustrated right now |
| 10:21.09 | rrowland | going to bed... maybe I'll wake up with more motivation to continue pounding my head against the same problems |
| 10:21.12 | rrowland | night |
| 10:21.15 | heysparky | gnight! |
| 10:22.00 | ProzaicMuze | he's a grumpy fellah :S |
| 10:22.04 | crazyfingers | bah, i still feel retarded with data editor, why can't i piece together a new behavior? Seems like there aren't any options on the right side taht i need to use |
| 10:23.38 | ProzaicMuze | what are you trying to make? |
| 10:23.52 | crazyfingers | A behavior that reduces incoming damage |
| 10:24.00 | crazyfingers | or anything for that matter |
| 10:24.39 | crazyfingers | only important attribute i see in a fresh new behavior is Modification+ |
| 10:24.47 | crazyfingers | and i've seen behaviors that do more than that |
| 10:25.54 | ProzaicMuze | one sec, I got yeh covered |
| 10:26.08 | ProzaicMuze | are you wanting the reduced damage only vs a certain type? or all types? |
| 10:26.55 | crazyfingers | for now all types is fine, i could figure out the rest |
| 10:27.16 | crazyfingers | It goes beyond just this one instance though, i'm just fed up with the data editor |
| 10:27.19 | crazyfingers | seems so clunky |
| 10:27.25 | crazyfingers | unintuitive |
| 10:27.36 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, then you want to make a Behavior - Buff |
| 10:27.47 | ProzaicMuze | go to Combat - Damage Response + |
| 10:27.50 | crazyfingers | hmm, i thought i had |
| 10:28.03 | crazyfingers | blar thanks |
| 10:28.13 | crazyfingers | i had one set up from a week ago, must have selected that one |
| 10:28.18 | ProzaicMuze | scroll down to the bottom of the list, then back up into you see "Kind" that's the area to change damage reduction amounts |
| 10:28.19 | crazyfingers | and i tried everything but it never worked |
| 10:28.26 | crazyfingers | set occurance to 1 |
| 10:28.41 | crazyfingers | adjust incoming damage by .01 % |
| 10:28.46 | crazyfingers | didn't work |
| 10:29.04 | ProzaicMuze | you have to edit the "Kind" and enable what damage types to reduce. |
| 10:29.11 | ProzaicMuze | Then in damage reduction put -X |
| 10:29.15 | ProzaicMuze | and decide what fraction |
| 10:29.27 | ProzaicMuze | and put location: defender |
| 10:29.43 | ProzaicMuze | able to find that? |
| 10:29.59 | crazyfingers | -x? |
| 10:30.06 | ProzaicMuze | X being any number you want |
| 10:30.15 | crazyfingers | i left that 0 and used the fraction |
| 10:30.19 | crazyfingers | but i did toy with values |
| 10:30.28 | crazyfingers | i'm pretty sure all damage types were enabeled by default |
| 10:30.35 | crazyfingers | thanks for the help by the way |
| 10:31.06 | ProzaicMuze | np |
| 10:31.22 | ProzaicMuze | let me know if that works, if not take a look at the sentry - guardian shield |
| 10:31.29 | ProzaicMuze | I'm pretty sure it uses the same mechanics |
| 10:31.35 | crazyfingers | ahh right on |
| 10:31.37 | crazyfingers | that's a good idea |
| 10:31.55 | ProzaicMuze | :) |
| 10:33.33 | crazyfingers | I think i might have realized what the issue was, thanks for bringing up the immortal. |
| 10:33.45 | crazyfingers | I was thinking the "limit" was how much damage could be affected |
| 10:33.54 | crazyfingers | when in reality it was how much couldn't be affected |
| 10:34.01 | crazyfingers | lets see if that does it |
| 10:35.07 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 10:35.17 | ProzaicMuze | np |
| 10:47.33 | crazyfingers | bwahahaha, got it |
| 10:47.47 | crazyfingers | I had "fatal" checked, among other things i tweaked randomly hoping to get it to work |
| 10:48.08 | crazyfingers | but i actually feel much better about the data editor now, well at least a little bit :D |
| 10:48.26 | crazyfingers | learn a little more each day |
| 10:50.59 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 10:51.02 | ProzaicMuze | good deal :) |
| 10:54.03 | ProzaicMuze | I think I'm gonna work out how to attach units together than can fire independently. As opposed to a unit with attached models. |
| 10:54.14 | ProzaicMuze | Like a viking with two auto-turrets on it |
| 10:58.46 | crazyfingers | nice |
| 10:59.34 | crazyfingers | lot of people have been takeling that, wish i'd asked one of 'em how they did it, would like to know myself |
| 10:59.40 | crazyfingers | *tackeling |
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| 10:59.59 | crazyfingers | what kind of mod you making prozaicMuze? |
| 11:01.00 | ProzaicMuze | a bunch of various examples for an attachment tutorial. The current ones are terrible and vague. |
| 11:01.16 | ProzaicMuze | And also because some of them I'll actually use |
| 11:01.27 | ProzaicMuze | But right now a viking with 2 auto turrets (1 each shoulder) and a horn on its head |
| 11:01.31 | ProzaicMuze | Rename it "Rhino" lol |
| 11:02.28 | crazyfingers | haha fun, no plans for a mod? |
| 11:02.58 | ProzaicMuze | no idea. I haven't looked at makings at all. |
| 11:03.07 | ProzaicMuze | My first "published" work will be a map. |
| 11:03.14 | ProzaicMuze | And then a variation of it for team play |
| 11:03.31 | ProzaicMuze | Beyond that, not sure |
| 11:03.39 | crazyfingers | Well that's cool, i wish that's how i went after this editor, instead I have this big mod planned and i get frustrated at every turn trying to make it happen |
| 11:03.52 | crazyfingers | but it's finally hitting a point where it's all falling together, so i'm kinda stoked :D |
| 11:03.52 | ProzaicMuze | lol what exactly is your mod going to do? |
| 11:04.13 | crazyfingers | I just got wasd controls fairly polished up for flying a ship around |
| 11:04.17 | crazyfingers | it's like asteroids |
| 11:04.21 | crazyfingers | meets Dota |
| 11:04.39 | crazyfingers | got a lot of cool spawn system, skill systems planned |
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| 11:05.00 | crazyfingers | i just hope it's not gonna lag online, did really limited multiplayer testing when Bnet was up |
| 11:05.01 | ProzaicMuze | asteroids and dota !? That sounds bizarre lol |
| 11:05.09 | ProzaicMuze | don't worry about lag yet |
| 11:05.13 | Ashamed | Goo dmorning |
| 11:05.13 | crazyfingers | haha, yeah, i think it could be an awesome combo though |
| 11:05.16 | ProzaicMuze | get what you need finished and then worry about lag when BNet fixes their lag |
| 11:05.23 | casperb | hey hey folks |
| 11:05.27 | crazyfingers | yeah, spose so |
| 11:05.29 | crazyfingers | sup casperb |
| 11:05.32 | ProzaicMuze | psh, go aweh we're talkin' here! |
| 11:05.39 | casperb | o.o new peopleh |
| 11:05.53 | ProzaicMuze | old people? |
| 11:06.07 | crazyfingers | I'm pretty old to be workin' on a SC II mod haha |
| 11:07.25 | Clord | you remind those people in past who thought that gaming is for kids |
| 11:07.55 | casperb | pff, gaming is for people 20+ :P |
| 11:08.13 | casperb | difference between gaming and hitting buttons in a computer game! :p |
| 11:08.26 | Clord | lol like in those movies |
| 11:08.34 | Clord | actors act like they are playing |
| 11:08.38 | Clord | lol |
| 11:09.02 | crazyfingers | When i hear actors typing on keyboards i listen for spacebar presses |
| 11:09.04 | crazyfingers | you never hear them |
| 11:09.22 | casperb | nor return |
| 11:09.54 | casperb | Any word on phase 2 yet? |
| 11:10.05 | crazyfingers | actually... sorta? |
| 11:10.06 | crazyfingers | no |
| 11:10.17 | casperb | Been playing LoL, the people there suck :P |
| 11:10.37 | crazyfingers | http://sc2movie.com/devtracker/2-25482320523/phase-2-is-gonna-blow-us-away.html |
| 11:10.40 | crazyfingers | little bit of info |
| 11:10.46 | crazyfingers | but it's more about release and post release |
| 11:12.00 | casperb | need to test lobby etc :/ |
| 11:12.06 | crazyfingers | i hear ya |
| 11:12.10 | crazyfingers | big time |
| 11:12.29 | crazyfingers | I'm slackin' on adding all kinds of stuff right now because there's no one to play it |
| 11:12.38 | crazyfingers | would love to share it now but with no publishing it's risky |
| 11:12.45 | casperb | I'll be rewriting everything o.o |
| 11:13.06 | ProzaicMuze | rofl Blizzard is so phail right now |
| 11:13.08 | ProzaicMuze | Seriously |
| 11:13.10 | crazyfingers | eh, i probably shouldn't share it now anyway, it's just potential not worth playing just yet |
| 11:13.30 | crazyfingers | eh, with blizzard, i'm used to it |
| 11:13.38 | crazyfingers | least we have the editor, it's just a couple months off at most |
| 11:13.44 | crazyfingers | waited this long... |
| 11:16.03 | ProzaicMuze | "We have a very long list of things that we want to integrate for Battle.net over the next few years ourselves" |
| 11:16.12 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 11:16.16 | ProzaicMuze | That right there epitomizes why blizzard is a stupid company now |
| 11:16.21 | ProzaicMuze | BioWare is my new fav |
| 11:16.35 | ProzaicMuze | Blizzard just doesn't get "customer relations" anymore despite being a company that DEFINED it |
| 11:16.36 | Ashamed | bioware is pretty legit |
| 11:16.48 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 11:16.50 | Ashamed | fuck blizzard |
| 11:17.01 | casperb | Bioware, Blizzard and Lionhead has always been my favs :o |
| 11:17.04 | ProzaicMuze | Just gimme the editor first! Then we can burn them down ;) |
| 11:17.21 | casperb | although peter monli.. however you spell his name is going kinda nuts :P |
| 11:17.32 | vjeux | blizzard community has gone so big |
| 11:17.37 | vjeux | it's hard to satisfy everyone :p |
| 11:17.38 | Ashamed | erg i gotta start working soon |
| 11:17.53 | crazyfingers | ha, i can't stand bioware |
| 11:18.01 | crazyfingers | i don't think they know gameplay for sh*t |
| 11:18.28 | casperb | Bioware has had some pretty epic games :o |
| 11:18.39 | Ashamed | I think they make the same game over and over again |
| 11:18.43 | Ashamed | just in differnt storys |
| 11:18.46 | ProzaicMuze | lol you must not be a NW or ME fan |
| 11:18.50 | crazyfingers | I'm so sick of them taking over so much of the marketshare with crap games with pretty graphics and long drawnout storylines that only seem fun because of the voice acting and overdone dialogue choices |
| 11:19.05 | crazyfingers | not at all |
| 11:19.10 | casperb | Was thinking back to baldurs gate |
| 11:19.11 | ProzaicMuze | NWN* |
| 11:19.17 | crazyfingers | tried 'em |
| 11:19.22 | crazyfingers | just DND on computer |
| 11:19.22 | casperb | was more or less one of it's kind at that time |
| 11:19.26 | crazyfingers | they did no game design |
| 11:19.41 | Ashamed | yeah I only like a few of their games |
| 11:19.43 | crazyfingers | and all games sense then have been more or less simple DnD mechanics |
| 11:19.49 | crazyfingers | *since |
| 11:19.50 | Ashamed | I can't do ME :( |
| 11:19.52 | casperb | Jade Empire! :p |
| 11:19.57 | Ashamed | Jade Empire was good |
| 11:20.01 | crazyfingers | haven't tried that one |
| 11:20.01 | madsquare | dragon age is an awesome game |
| 11:20.07 | crazyfingers | dragon age was ok |
| 11:20.11 | Ashamed | and i just got dragon age |
| 11:20.15 | ProzaicMuze | personally, I think Mass Effect 1 and 2 are some of the best games out there right now. Especially given how dynamic the game play is with save transferring. I don't know any other games that incorporate this atm |
| 11:20.15 | crazyfingers | don't get me wrong, bioware is an ok company |
| 11:20.24 | crazyfingers | they're just not a top tier company in my book |
| 11:20.28 | crazyfingers | because they're games just aren't fun |
| 11:20.31 | casperb | Meh what's with every game designer trying to get porn into their game lately? :p |
| 11:20.36 | ProzaicMuze | Dragon age was kinda meh for me mainly because of the poor graphic quality at realise. Thankfully their editor allowed us to fix it. |
| 11:20.41 | casperb | (reference to dragon age :P) |
| 11:20.42 | heysparky | casperb... Molyneux is only just NOW going nuts... hahahhahaha :D |
| 11:21.09 | casperb | heysparky: might have always been, fable 2 sucked balls atleast, yay you could marry a dude, great way to spend 3 years |
| 11:21.19 | madsquare | idk. dragon age felt super the first time i played through it (marathon, slept only 6 hours from start to finish) |
| 11:21.33 | ProzaicMuze | The game was awesome, no doubt, but I was turned off by the graphics |
| 11:21.38 | ProzaicMuze | I fixed that later on though lol |
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| 11:21.42 | heysparky | I took me 8 hours just to get into Dragon Age |
| 11:21.56 | madsquare | only thign that bothered me is, that no matter what you choose (good/bad moral) the game turns out the same way |
| 11:22.14 | ProzaicMuze | yeah, that part was annoying given how choice oriented their past games have been, |
| 11:22.14 | heysparky | depends on what they do with the witch |
| 11:22.32 | madsquare | and the balacning for their abilities was poor. but thats not too bad for a SP RPG |
| 11:22.54 | heysparky | he's been nuts since Populous, casperb... I'm pretty sure |
| 11:22.59 | heysparky | but smart :) |
| 11:23.03 | Clord | Dragon Age.... PC version mods are awesome addition if feel like it |
| 11:23.06 | Clord | there is balance mods etc |
| 11:23.09 | casperb | heysparky: alright then he's just gotten more pervy .p |
| 11:23.26 | heysparky | I mean... game after game after game about being a god or the center of a fictional universe... |
| 11:23.34 | casperb | Fable 3 features.. guess what? hand holding! |
| 11:23.41 | heysparky | like ICO |
| 11:23.42 | heysparky | :D |
| 11:23.47 | ProzaicMuze | button sequence sex scenes? |
| 11:23.53 | Ashamed | Fable is starting to suck |
| 11:24.00 | ProzaicMuze | they dumbed down the spells :( |
| 11:24.01 | Ashamed | they took the rpg out of it |
| 11:24.03 | casperb | Fable 1 was cool, fable 2 sucked :o |
| 11:24.04 | ProzaicMuze | Fable 1 spells raped the worled |
| 11:24.09 | Ashamed | its now a action adventure game |
| 11:24.14 | ProzaicMuze | Fable 2. . . . was the the child of such raping |
| 11:24.18 | Ashamed | an action* |
| 11:24.20 | casperb | Story was so freaking obvious and lame |
| 11:24.21 | heysparky | I didn't play Fable 1, but I enjoyed Fable 2 |
| 11:24.29 | heysparky | I heard Fable 1 was garbage |
| 11:24.30 | Clord | black and white 2.... pushed out as very incomplete and it's expansion ignored that fact and instead fixing what was broken... it added more unfinished stuff top of it |
| 11:24.31 | heysparky | lol |
| 11:24.31 | Clord | XD |
| 11:24.31 | ProzaicMuze | then you'll love the 1st one sparky |
| 11:24.33 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 11:24.35 | casperb | You know when you're watching a horrow movie and you know what's going to happend? |
| 11:24.37 | Ashamed | fable 1 was the shit.. it was actually a rpg |
| 11:24.42 | casperb | that was how Fable 2 was :p |
| 11:24.48 | casperb | Like annoyingly obvious |
| 11:24.58 | Clord | so if fable 3 sucks.. I'm not surprised seeing their record |
| 11:25.00 | Ashamed | and at the end.. you couldn't take over the world |
| 11:25.01 | Clord | of developing games |
| 11:25.04 | Ashamed | that pissed me off |
| 11:25.15 | ProzaicMuze | lol powerhungry much? |
| 11:25.29 | Ashamed | no the first one you could.. i just expected it in this one |
| 11:25.35 | Ashamed | and then at the end you get the gayest choices |
| 11:25.37 | casperb | Also, you can have sex, including gay sex, but you can't murder children, pfft :p |
| 11:25.58 | Clord | childrens typically dissappear before you can reach them etc in games |
| 11:25.59 | Clord | XD |
| 11:26.14 | Ashamed | Not in dante's inferno |
| 11:26.19 | casperb | Yeah but fable you can pretty much burn a city down, except all the children they just run around and play while you're at it :P |
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| 11:28.01 | Ashamed | CLORD |
| 11:28.14 | Clord | non demonic evil childrends |
| 11:28.19 | Ashamed | lol |
| 11:28.24 | Ashamed | that was a crazy ass game |
| 11:28.29 | casperb | Anyone bothered to look into beacons btw? |
| 11:29.30 | casperb | Sizable chunk of the API and data dedicated to it |
| 11:29.32 | Ashamed | whats up with beacons |
| 11:29.50 | casperb | Dunno haven't bothered to look into it, been busy :p |
| 11:29.55 | Ashamed | lol |
| 11:30.04 | ProzaicMuze | I'm too busy making cool lazerbeems go pewpew! |
| 11:30.05 | Clord | they still like use beacons as object indicators |
| 11:30.34 | Clord | objective.... |
| 11:30.37 | Ashamed | Prozaic I need to learn how to make lazer beams go pewpew lol |
| 11:30.50 | casperb | Seem to be a bit of built in mechanics tho |
| 11:31.08 | Ashamed | The only thing I managed so far was make an EMP cloak your units for 20 seconds... but it still kills your energy lol I can't figure out where that part is :) |
| 11:31.27 | ProzaicMuze | then check this out: |
| 11:31.38 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/3939-data-working-with-beams-beginner-difficulty/#p2 |
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| 11:32.47 | Ashamed | thx.. I will for sure do that :) |
| 11:32.55 | Ashamed | Get me some lazer beam action |
| 11:33.40 | ProzaicMuze | :D |
| 11:33.44 | ProzaicMuze | lazer beams ftw! |
| 11:34.45 | Ashamed | wow and after that tutorial, would you say I will have a good knowledge of these so called "Lazer beams" |
| 11:34.57 | ProzaicMuze | yes |
| 11:35.12 | ProzaicMuze | If you can't make units shoot laser beams after that tutorial, you should do it again until you can :) |
| 11:35.33 | Ashamed | Will I know how to make a ka meh ka meh ha lazer? "Giant" |
| 11:35.47 | ProzaicMuze | Definitely :D |
| 11:35.53 | Ashamed | nice |
| 11:36.10 | Ashamed | Because I am making golems and I pretty much have the mechanics done.. I jsut need heroes |
| 11:36.23 | Ashamed | and i need new spells |
| 11:36.37 | ProzaicMuze | it doesn't cover abilities, so you'll need to understand how to attack the effect chain to an ability (tutorial coming later) |
| 11:36.52 | ProzaicMuze | But it will give you the spell's parts. |
| 11:37.02 | ProzaicMuze | attack = attach* |
| 11:37.07 | Ashamed | i see what you are saying |
| 11:37.13 | Ashamed | i can do that |
| 11:37.17 | Ashamed | so that is no problem |
| 11:37.18 | ProzaicMuze | Then you're good to go :D |
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| 11:45.52 | Ashamed | I want to make an interceptor that will bomb people! |
| 11:45.56 | Ashamed | with lazer bombs! |
| 11:46.54 | ProzaicMuze | lol as in it shoots a projectile? |
| 11:49.15 | Ashamed | like drops them |
| 11:49.23 | Ashamed | like lil bombers |
| 11:49.37 | Ashamed | splash damage! |
| 11:50.25 | Ashamed | make it drop the EMP projectile... and then when it hits the ground make it go boom! |
| 11:52.20 | Ashamed | Did anyone ever play golems on SC? |
| 11:52.45 | ProzaicMuze | nope, never, I don't believe in SC1 |
| 11:52.46 | Shenlok_ | <3 golems |
| 11:52.59 | Shenlok_ | I knew no combinations though so it was all random for me... |
| 11:53.05 | Shenlok_ | which is possibly what made it so fun |
| 11:53.12 | Ashamed | Shenlok you remember how some versions would make heros go in the middle/ and some would put them next to your base? |
| 11:53.20 | Shenlok_ | yes |
| 11:53.44 | Ashamed | What do you think of an upgrade... at first they go into the middle but if you save enough cash you can get an upgrade that brings them to your base |
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| 11:54.42 | Shenlok_ | doesn't sound like a TERRIBLE idea... But I always hated them spawning in the middle, since it was quite likely there were enemy units there so they would start off surrounded |
| 11:54.58 | Ashamed | exactly.. thats why it would be a good upgrade to earn |
| 11:55.32 | Ashamed | I am trying to make much more options then sc had |
| 11:55.36 | Ashamed | instead of just heros |
| 11:55.52 | Shenlok_ | sure go for it and see how it feels with that system |
| 11:55.55 | ProzaicMuze | holy crap I'm watchin' this hot chic make a hydralisk outta clay! I'm sold! |
| 11:56.13 | Ashamed | lol prozaic i saw it yesterday |
| 11:56.17 | Ashamed | she fucken sucks.. she is just hot |
| 11:56.58 | Ashamed | Like that clay hydralisk looks bad at the end |
| 11:57.16 | ProzaicMuze | the drawing was pretty beast |
| 11:57.25 | ProzaicMuze | but it would be hard to make a great clay model I imagine |
| 11:57.25 | Ashamed | yeah her drawings are aright |
| 11:57.40 | Ashamed | .. but there are people who can |
| 11:57.52 | Ashamed | Just not her lol |
| 11:57.56 | ProzaicMuze | psh, how many of them are hot chics? |
| 11:57.57 | Ashamed | Just a hot chick making clay |
| 11:58.29 | Ashamed | I know thats the "only" reason blizzard put her on lol |
| 11:58.37 | Ashamed | they were like wow guys this chicks pretty hot |
| 11:58.43 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 11:58.46 | Ashamed | lol |
| 11:58.53 | ProzaicMuze | I still think the drawings were great given they were marker based |
| 11:59.00 | Phaos | where are you even seeing this vid ? |
| 11:59.04 | ProzaicMuze | that alone would be enough to watch her |
| 11:59.06 | ProzaicMuze | forever |
| 11:59.14 | ProzaicMuze | http://starcraft.gamesports.net/de/news/793/ |
| 11:59.23 | Ashamed | ... i would rather see her take her clothes off |
| 11:59.38 | Ashamed | I think she would be better at that |
| 11:59.39 | ProzaicMuze | psh, you don't know how it works! Praise a woman for what she enjoys doing and the clomes follow! |
| 11:59.49 | Phaos | damn you multi linguistic peoples |
| 11:59.52 | ProzaicMuze | wtf |
| 11:59.53 | ProzaicMuze | clothes* |
| 11:59.57 | ProzaicMuze | I dont' speak german lol |
| 12:00.03 | Ashamed | Proziac.. I actually am married lol :0 |
| 12:00.06 | Phaos | oh lol :P |
| 12:00.07 | ProzaicMuze | it's just the videos that matter |
| 12:00.09 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 12:00.14 | ProzaicMuze | You mean trapped forever |
| 12:00.40 | ProzaicMuze | Granted I guess I do need a sammich maker ;) |
| 12:00.55 | Ashamed | I am having a baby too :) |
| 12:00.58 | Ashamed | I just found out |
| 12:00.59 | ProzaicMuze | wtf!? |
| 12:00.59 | Phaos | hot german geek, every gamers true love, even if she does suck at modeling sculpts |
| 12:01.07 | ProzaicMuze | How is you havin' a baby if you a dude? |
| 12:01.15 | Ashamed | My wife is |
| 12:01.16 | ProzaicMuze | That's weird. . . . (congrats though :D) |
| 12:01.18 | Ashamed | Its my baby too |
| 12:01.21 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:01.56 | ProzaicMuze | YOu should name it Raynor! or Kerrigan! |
| 12:02.00 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:02.08 | ProzaicMuze | both socially acceptable names too! |
| 12:02.14 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:02.30 | Phaos | except that part that they are last names :P |
| 12:02.38 | Ashamed | Ray = short for raynor / kerri = short for kerrigan |
| 12:02.39 | Phaos | so you mean Jimmy or Sarah |
| 12:02.57 | ProzaicMuze | >:( |
| 12:03.08 | ProzaicMuze | Those are boring names |
| 12:03.12 | Phaos | :D |
| 12:04.57 | Phaos | oh man that clay model really does suck... |
| 12:05.40 | Ashamed | i told you lol |
| 12:06.26 | Ashamed | Phaos and i knew that was their last names.. But if i were to name my child them. It would be for a first name becasue they are getting my last name lol |
| 12:06.47 | Phaos | it's true :P |
| 12:07.07 | Ashamed | but i would still never do that |
| 12:07.13 | Phaos | naww, start the kerrigan family, hope for a daughter, and name her Sarah :D |
| 12:07.20 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:07.29 | Ashamed | change all of our last names to Kerrigan |
| 12:08.11 | Phaos | yep :P |
| 12:09.06 | Phaos | then you can be all like "hey blizzard my daughters real name is Sarah Kerrigan, give us free collectors editions for each of us plz k thx |
| 12:09.22 | ProzaicMuze | I'd just skip the pretense and name my daughter "queen bitch" |
| 12:09.33 | ProzaicMuze | My wife would love me forever! |
| 12:12.30 | Clord | this editor's icon menu is full missing images of campaign only stuff |
| 12:12.31 | Clord | lol |
| 12:12.35 | Clord | omegalisk |
| 12:12.55 | ProzaicMuze | I wish you could apply multiple Site Operations to the same actor |
| 12:13.09 | ProzaicMuze | Then I could attach to a specific point and adjust from there rather than adjusting manually from the ground :( |
| 12:13.36 | ProzaicMuze | AND I need angles :S |
| 12:13.46 | ProzaicMuze | mumbles and grumbles |
| 12:15.58 | Clord | lol and I would like when ordering random integer number |
| 12:16.04 | Clord | to exclude directly what can't be randomed |
| 12:16.12 | Clord | let's say.. random integer number between 1-10 |
| 12:16.18 | Clord | but don't ever random 3 or 5 ;) |
| 12:16.39 | ProzaicMuze | why not? |
| 12:16.42 | ProzaicMuze | game asplodes? |
| 12:16.56 | ProzaicMuze | oh, wait lol |
| 12:16.59 | ProzaicMuze | I get what you're asking lol |
| 12:17.12 | ProzaicMuze | random number between 1-2, 4 and 6-10 |
| 12:17.28 | Clord | :) |
| 12:17.34 | Clord | it just would reduce need of loops |
| 12:17.42 | Clord | I have card system and I add unlockable cards |
| 12:17.46 | Clord | so now I need use dumb loop style |
| 12:17.47 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:17.51 | Clord | to make sure something is drawn |
| 12:18.03 | Clord | you know these silly... loop 100 or 1000 times things |
| 12:18.06 | Clord | to make sure everything works fine |
| 12:18.43 | Ashamed | its easy |
| 12:18.50 | Ashamed | i did it better |
| 12:18.57 | ProzaicMuze | lol did what better? |
| 12:19.03 | Ashamed | just listen |
| 12:19.05 | Ashamed | without a loop |
| 12:19.55 | Ashamed | In my golems map I needed to add a trigger that would reconize... if the user selected a non-combo unit. Without making a trigger for each non-combo hero. |
| 12:20.28 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.35 | Ashamed | ahh that doe snot paste good |
| 12:20.35 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:20.59 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.14 | Ashamed | dude that condition |
| 12:21.24 | Ashamed | and you can tell the game to check all of your combos you have |
| 12:21.25 | casperb | o.o |
| 12:21.28 | Ashamed | and then at the end reset it |
| 12:21.30 | casperb | Huuge array |
| 12:21.33 | casperb | why? :P |
| 12:21.48 | Clord | lol this card system is bit different beast... it is not checking combos ;) |
| 12:22.01 | ProzaicMuze | wtf, one of these attachment points don't even exist on a viking for Site Operations lmao |
| 12:22.05 | Ashamed | you can use it the same way |
| 12:22.11 | Ashamed | because its checking varibles |
| 12:22.13 | Ashamed | right? |
| 12:22.31 | Clord | lol and to tell truth... even five year old computer would not notice there is loop running 100 or 1000 times XD |
| 12:22.37 | Clord | also I can limit it easily |
| 12:22.44 | Clord | just set increment to zero |
| 12:22.47 | Clord | and once card is found |
| 12:22.48 | Ashamed | all this does is check a varible and if it does not see it moves to the next one |
| 12:22.50 | Clord | set number to max |
| 12:22.51 | Ashamed | and then it keeps going |
| 12:22.58 | Ashamed | until it realizes that there is no more combos |
| 12:23.03 | Ashamed | or no more varibles |
| 12:23.08 | Ashamed | and then starts over |
| 12:23.14 | Ashamed | its a loop as well.. but its just one trigger |
| 12:23.27 | Clord | hehe in this map there is no such thing as card pack... cards are randomed on spot ^^ |
| 12:23.33 | Clord | lol |
| 12:23.39 | Ashamed | that would work perfect! |
| 12:23.51 | ProzaicMuze | why can't I just open up the model and click/drag the models onto eachother for super attachments :( |
| 12:23.55 | ProzaicMuze | stupid blizzard |
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| 12:25.51 | Clord | oh yes I optimized this.... loop with increment zero.... =) number is 1.... loop goal number is 2..... when card is succesfully picked.... it puts loop current number to 2 to break it ;) |
| 12:25.57 | Ashamed | clord i will get a SS of it... I just want to show you. I am pretty sure you will like it |
| 12:26.38 | Clord | General - For each integer Temporal Integer 3 from 1 to 2 with increment 0, do (Actions) <- works lovely =) |
| 12:26.53 | Clord | I can control when I want break loop |
| 12:26.55 | Clord | lovely :) |
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| 12:27.44 | Ashamed | How many triggers is it taking clord? |
| 12:29.17 | Ashamed | http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3449/loop.png |
| 12:29.19 | Ashamed | there thats it |
| 12:31.00 | ProzaicMuze | so many triggers |
| 12:31.03 | ProzaicMuze | triggers are teh devil! |
| 12:31.16 | Clord | my map just uses add cards and add cards 2 to place cards for every players up to 12 players supported |
| 12:31.23 | Clord | then lol |
| 12:31.29 | Clord | there is just trigger to use them when clicked |
| 12:32.58 | Ashamed | and you have some intergers just looping? |
| 12:34.55 | Ashamed | prozaicmuze you dont use alot of triggers? |
| 12:35.34 | ProzaicMuze | I have zero triggers atm |
| 12:35.41 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:35.46 | Ashamed | my map will only be like 150 |
| 12:35.46 | ProzaicMuze | I'll eventually use them, but I don't want to try until I've got what I need from the data editor |
| 12:36.01 | Ashamed | See i went the other direction |
| 12:36.04 | Ashamed | I learned the triggers |
| 12:36.09 | Ashamed | and now i gotta learn the data editor |
| 12:36.10 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:36.42 | ProzaicMuze | psh, my way ist betterer |
| 12:36.48 | ProzaicMuze | since then I got to triggers and don't have to do as much :D |
| 12:36.50 | Ashamed | oh yeah |
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| 12:37.07 | ProzaicMuze | and because I did it. So it's automatically better >:D |
| 12:37.08 | Ashamed | .. none of the triggers i have could be done by the data editor |
| 12:37.23 | Ashamed | i guess creating characters could of been |
| 12:37.28 | Ashamed | but thats it |
| 12:38.30 | Ashamed | its almost break time! |
| 12:38.39 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 12:38.59 | ProzaicMuze | I'm just avoiding triggers because it's all crappy abbrevs verse mostly full words |
| 12:39.03 | ProzaicMuze | Abbrevs are teh devil! |
| 12:39.27 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:47.34 | Ashamed | 13 more minutes! |
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| 13:02.25 | ProzaicMuze | YES I DID IT! |
| 13:02.29 | ProzaicMuze | VICTORY! ES MEIN! |
| 13:03.36 | Ashamed | what you doo |
| 13:03.42 | Ashamed | i know thats what you were waiting for |
| 13:03.58 | ProzaicMuze | was more just tooting his horn because he is awesome |
| 13:04.18 | Ashamed | but what horn was it? |
| 13:05.30 | ProzaicMuze | oh um the multiple site operations thing |
| 13:05.48 | Ashamed | what multiple site opersations?? |
| 13:05.49 | Ashamed | explain |
| 13:05.53 | Ashamed | !!!!!!!!!!! NOW |
| 13:06.03 | ProzaicMuze | attaching models together |
| 13:06.09 | ProzaicMuze | in order to do so you have to apply a site operation. |
| 13:06.13 | ProzaicMuze | Which says where and how to apply it |
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| 13:06.25 | Ashamed | what you attach? |
| 13:06.31 | ProzaicMuze | Auto-turret to a viking |
| 13:06.56 | ProzaicMuze | At the point I want, the angle I want and synced to the VIkings movement (some just have it float there while the animation runs) |
| 13:06.57 | Ashamed | nice |
| 13:07.01 | ProzaicMuze | indeed :D |
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| 13:07.52 | Ashamed | so you have not gotten that part? |
| 13:09.26 | ProzaicMuze | I got it |
| 13:09.42 | Ashamed | you gotz it |
| 13:10.06 | ProzaicMuze | i gots it mayn! |
| 13:10.08 | ProzaicMuze | mayun& |
| 13:10.12 | ProzaicMuze | mayun* |
| 13:11.11 | Ashamed | I Dont think they have enough units in sc2 >< |
| 13:12.51 | ProzaicMuze | not in multiplayer, no |
| 13:12.53 | ProzaicMuze | there will be more though |
| 13:14.11 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 13:14.12 | Ashamed | i heard |
| 13:14.18 | Ashamed | and the hereos right? |
| 13:14.38 | ProzaicMuze | yep yep |
| 13:14.41 | ProzaicMuze | it's gonna be epic |
| 13:14.46 | Ashamed | we are going to have access to the heroes |
| 13:14.56 | Ashamed | and then like the 6 units that didn't make it to sc2 i think |
| 13:15.06 | ProzaicMuze | lot more than 6 |
| 13:15.09 | ProzaicMuze | plust the SC1 models |
| 13:15.21 | Ashamed | I heard its only the sc1 models that didn't make it to sc2 |
| 13:15.24 | Ashamed | so like lurker |
| 13:15.31 | ProzaicMuze | yep |
| 13:15.36 | Ashamed | they are not remaking any of the ones they recreated |
| 13:15.43 | Ashamed | like zergling model/ will just be the new sc2 model |
| 13:16.46 | Ashamed | well i am takinga break |
| 13:16.46 | Ashamed | brb |
| 13:16.46 | ProzaicMuze | no, as in the units from the SP |
| 13:16.46 | ProzaicMuze | like firebat, goliath, medic etc |
| 13:25.58 | Phaos | firebat, goliath, medic, valkyrie, science vessel, vulture, scout, corsair, shuttle, reaver, dragoon, dark archon, arbieter, lurker, guardian, devourer, scourge, Defiler. Are all coming in |
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| 13:32.36 | Ashamed | i am bac |
| 13:32.41 | Ashamed | phaos that looks like all of them |
| 13:32.42 | Ashamed | :) |
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| 13:43.55 | Ashamed | erg i just found out best buys top ceo is coming into work to visit me on tuesday... How fun >< |
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| 13:44.25 | Ashamed | Looks like I wont be able to talk then lol |
| 13:54.25 | Ashamed | anyone there? |
| 13:54.31 | Ashamed | or y'all worken hard? |
| 14:01.24 | ProzaicMuze | I'm always here |
| 14:01.26 | ProzaicMuze | like a spectre |
| 14:01.29 | ProzaicMuze | of dom |
| 14:02.28 | ProzaicMuze | doom even |
| 14:04.12 | Phaos | work work |
| 14:07.19 | vjeux | http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6500/firstsc2terraining.jpg |
| 14:07.27 | vjeux | seriously is that a sc2 screenshot? |
| 14:09.09 | Furyhunter | yes |
| 14:10.12 | vjeux | he didn't add the map :x |
| 14:11.07 | Ashamed | that is an amazing one |
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| 14:14.45 | ProzaicMuze | it's just a SS from the ground level near lava |
| 14:14.51 | ProzaicMuze | good capture though :D |
| 14:15.04 | Ashamed | He changed some lighting too |
| 14:15.20 | ProzaicMuze | psh lies |
| 14:15.36 | ProzaicMuze | and vjeux, has anyone made a tut on model attachments? |
| 14:15.42 | vjeux | dunno |
| 14:15.56 | ProzaicMuze | I'll go look lol |
| 14:21.47 | ProzaicMuze | eww, there are a couple, but one is a trigger one that uses trig and is laggy and the other is simplistic. |
| 14:21.53 | ProzaicMuze | You ok with me makin' a more advanced one? |
| 14:24.33 | vjeux | yeah! |
| 14:24.35 | vjeux | go ahead :) |
| 14:26.27 | ProzaicMuze | sweet deal, I'm makin' some complex models for the tutorial. I'll toss it up however long. I still need to figure out what the rest of the Site Operations do. There are a ton! |
| 14:27.30 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/4020-challenge-make-a-map-larger-than-256-256/?post=31 |
| 14:27.42 | vjeux | hey, it's coming along great! |
| 14:30.04 | nicoli_s | sweet |
| 14:30.13 | nicoli_s | hopefully he'll post it so i can see if MWE can open it |
| 14:33.24 | vjeux | yeah |
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| 14:36.34 | Ashamed | whats up xesec |
| 14:36.44 | xeSec | what up dog |
| 14:36.53 | Ashamed | How it be chillen? |
| 14:36.56 | xeSec | dude been forever since I have even seen IRC |
| 14:37.02 | xeSec | on a meeting |
| 14:37.04 | Ashamed | lol |
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| 14:37.09 | bubbles | oops, wrong name |
| 14:37.11 | Ashamed | IRC = the shiz |
| 14:37.13 | bubbles | how do i change nickname? |
| 14:37.18 | Ashamed | YOU DONT |
| 14:37.23 | ctccromer | nevermind xD |
| 14:37.26 | Ashamed | ;) |
| 14:37.28 | ctccromer | thought i tried that earlier |
| 14:37.33 | xeSec | SDM yelling about incorrectly routed tickets lol |
| 14:37.44 | Ashamed | get them tickets |
| 14:37.47 | Ashamed | RRT |
| 14:37.48 | ctccromer | mornin everyone |
| 14:37.56 | ctccromer | anything exciting happenin today? |
| 14:37.58 | xeSec | I didn't know IRC had a web based client |
| 14:38.07 | Ashamed | i didn't either :) |
| 14:38.14 | ctccromer | what does IRC stand for?? |
| 14:38.21 | ctccromer | internet relay chat? |
| 14:38.26 | Ashamed | ... |
| 14:38.28 | Ashamed | why did you ask |
| 14:38.29 | ctccromer | xD |
| 14:38.31 | Ashamed | if you knew |
| 14:38.34 | ctccromer | cuz i have no idea |
| 14:38.38 | ctccromer | i just guessed |
| 14:39.00 | Ashamed | well you are right |
| 14:39.02 | ctccromer | that seemed like the most logical answer, but i had no idea if it was right or not |
| 14:39.06 | ctccromer | cool okay |
| 14:39.18 | ctccromer | never knew about IRC's before this one |
| 14:39.28 | Ashamed | best buy CEO coming in on tuesday taylor |
| 14:39.48 | Ashamed | and Heather volunteered me to work with one of them >< |
| 14:39.58 | Ashamed | i gotta even change my PC desktop picture |
| 14:40.18 | Ashamed | and where a suit and shit |
| 14:40.23 | Ashamed | wear* |
| 14:40.27 | ctccromer | have fun with that :P |
| 14:40.33 | Ashamed | ... :( i wont |
| 14:40.37 | Ashamed | i dont get to talk to you guys! |
| 14:41.21 | Ashamed | i rather not sit with a billionaire.. and pretend that i respect him lol |
| 14:41.38 | ctccromer | *shrug* if someone knew how to get successful |
| 14:41.48 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:41.52 | ctccromer | even if i hate em, i cant help but at least BARELY respect em |
| 14:42.03 | ctccromer | unless it was inherited or somethin |
| 14:42.08 | Ashamed | have you ever met a CEO?? They are the most corrupted people |
| 14:42.13 | ctccromer | nope |
| 14:42.20 | nicoli_s | ashamed:not always true, our ceo isnt corrupt |
| 14:42.24 | ctccromer | but i immagine the politicians here in Louisiana are more corrupt xD |
| 14:42.25 | Ashamed | I am talking about the guy that OWNS best buy |
| 14:42.49 | Ashamed | he makes like 10 million a year |
| 14:43.14 | nicoli_s | so, that doesnt make all ceos corrupt |
| 14:43.15 | ctccromer | ask questions and take notes? |
| 14:43.27 | Ashamed | well obv smaller companies wont have bad CEO's |
| 14:43.34 | Ka[L]ekin | o.o |
| 14:43.36 | Ashamed | HE is coming to ask me questions and to take notes lol |
| 14:43.42 | Ka[L]ekin | What makes CEO's corrupt? |
| 14:43.42 | ctccromer | lol |
| 14:43.53 | ProzaicMuze | lol CEO's aren't corrupt by default |
| 14:43.59 | ctccromer | all i know is the owner of the local water park where i live is REALLY bad |
| 14:44.05 | Ashamed | .. only once you start making a certain amount of money |
| 14:44.05 | ctccromer | dont know about any other companies |
| 14:44.13 | ctccromer | but.. there's your local business lol |
| 14:44.30 | Ka[L]ekin | What amount of money? |
| 14:44.31 | ProzaicMuze | Not really |
| 14:44.36 | Ka[L]ekin | And how does tht amount make you corrupt? |
| 14:44.40 | ProzaicMuze | some of the nicest people in the world are also the wealthiest |
| 14:44.50 | Ashamed | no way prozaic |
| 14:44.51 | ProzaicMuze | Money doesn't make you corrupt, you make yourself corrupt |
| 14:44.53 | ProzaicMuze | Yes way |
| 14:44.58 | ProzaicMuze | money is an extension of you |
| 14:45.04 | ProzaicMuze | It magnifies who you are like any other tool |
| 14:45.10 | Ashamed | .. i work for IBM.. I know about corrupt buiesnesses |
| 14:45.15 | ProzaicMuze | if you're a charitable person, more money means more charity |
| 14:45.30 | ProzaicMuze | I own several business and talk with people who make more than everyoen in this chatroom combined |
| 14:45.35 | ctccromer | not to say richEST, but i go to a private school and one of my friends is SWIMMING in the millions, and he's really really nice (doesnt tell anyone except people he knows wont care much) |
| 14:45.35 | Ashamed | Name a nice rich person |
| 14:45.44 | Tolkfan | not all CEO are bad, take Bobby Kotick for instance! |
| 14:45.44 | ProzaicMuze | Some ARE corrupt people, but they aren't suddenly evil due to money |
| 14:45.46 | Ka[L]ekin | Bill Gates. :D |
| 14:45.47 | Ka[L]ekin | He is the best. |
| 14:46.03 | Ashamed | ... well i am not saying there isn't a sheep in the crowd |
| 14:46.21 | Ashamed | But i would say most people once they start making a certain amount of money start becoming corrupt. |
| 14:46.37 | Ka[L]ekin | What actions are you considering corrupt? |
| 14:46.37 | ProzaicMuze | Then you'd be completely wrong |
| 14:46.38 | ctccromer | most? probably yeah |
| 14:46.41 | Ka[L]ekin | And what amount of money? |
| 14:46.49 | ctccromer | idk, i might agree with that |
| 14:46.50 | Ka[L]ekin | this seems like a really dumb discussion >_< |
| 14:46.58 | ProzaicMuze | Probably because it is and it's false |
| 14:47.08 | ProzaicMuze | You can't be corrupted by anything but yourself |
| 14:47.17 | Ashamed | i would say once you start making at least 1 million a year.. you will start becoming a bad person |
| 14:47.22 | ProzaicMuze | LMAO |
| 14:47.22 | Ka[L]ekin | Lol... |
| 14:47.26 | Ka[L]ekin | Worst troll. :/ |
| 14:47.33 | Ashamed | no its not |
| 14:47.35 | ProzaicMuze | Then, for the sake of this conversation, you're a fucktard |
| 14:47.54 | Ka[L]ekin | Ashamed, then, wha makes them a bad person? |
| 14:47.55 | Ashamed | I work at a corprate office... I work with companies every day |
| 14:48.03 | Hati | someone here who had issues with Localizer ? |
| 14:48.06 | Hati | not working ? |
| 14:48.06 | Ka[L]ekin | What constitutes corrupt? |
| 14:48.15 | Ashamed | even though people are donating.. did you know the middle class donates more money on average? |
| 14:48.24 | Ashamed | like percentage of how much they make |
| 14:48.33 | Ashamed | middle class people give more money |
| 14:48.58 | Ka[L]ekin | Maybe they shouldn't. |
| 14:49.02 | Ka[L]ekin | And they wouldn't be middle class. |
| 14:49.03 | Ashamed | my CEO is in an investigation for making an extra 8 million last year |
| 14:49.07 | ProzaicMuze | That's probably why they're middle class still |
| 14:49.15 | ProzaicMuze | Probably because people are jealous |
| 14:49.28 | Ka[L]ekin | Ashamed, still, have not answered what consitutes a corrupt CEO? |
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| 14:49.45 | Ashamed | When they do what ever to advance themselfs |
| 14:49.45 | ProzaicMuze | You're only going to find what you look for. If you're looking for corrupt CEO's, that's all you're gonna find. |
| 14:50.08 | Ka[L]ekin | Ashamed, an example? |
| 14:50.19 | Ashamed | they have a huge company with millions of workers and they will still look for the best way for them to make money.. even though they are making millions a year |
| 14:50.19 | ctccromer | map question: how do i disable my unit(s) attacking when they stand in range of an enemy... but still allow it when i click (and trigger to issue the order to attack)? |
| 14:50.34 | Ashamed | guys i am not talking about smaller local places |
| 14:50.35 | ProzaicMuze | (Btw, sidebar, Ashamed, did you manage to make that interceptor bomber thing?) |
| 14:50.42 | Ashamed | I work for IBM.. I dont support local buisnesses |
| 14:50.52 | Ashamed | No i am at work right now prozaic |
| 14:51.01 | ProzaicMuze | lol mmk np, I was just wonderin' :) |
| 14:51.32 | ProzaicMuze | But I think you should do some research about CEO's before you carpetbomb all individuals with 1mil+ anual income as corrupt. |
| 14:51.51 | Ashamed | Ok prozaic |
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| 14:51.57 | Ashamed | but i know the BB CEO is corrupt |
| 14:51.58 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:52.29 | Ka[L]ekin | Ashamed, how is wanting to make more money corrupt? |
| 14:52.30 | ProzaicMuze | I think it's more likely that people with wealth are in a better position to exert power on others, thus those who are corrupt are more likely to appear such with money than without simply because they have a greater luxury to do so. |
| 14:52.48 | ProzaicMuze | BB? don't know what that stands for :S |
| 14:52.50 | Ashamed | prozaic that was a perfect way to explain it |
| 14:52.53 | Ashamed | Best buy |
| 14:52.53 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:53.04 | Ashamed | I am going to sit with the Best Buy CEO on tuesday |
| 14:53.11 | Ashamed | this guy makes like 10 million a year >< |
| 14:54.26 | depthsofchaos | makes or gets?:p |
| 14:54.41 | Ashamed | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090824040139AAxqL21 |
| 14:54.53 | Ashamed | see depth got the right spirit |
| 14:54.55 | Ashamed | "Gets" |
| 14:55.04 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tutorial-boot-camp-remake/. Tutorial: Boot Camp Remake. JLogan (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 14:55.54 | Ashamed | I am sorry but I know once you start making enough money you lose your good side... I don't know where the mark is. I realize that not everyone hits it... but there is for sure a mark |
| 14:56.16 | Ka[L]ekin | Well, that's crap. |
| 14:56.27 | Ka[L]ekin | So, whatever. |
| 14:56.42 | Ashamed | No it snot |
| 14:56.50 | Ashamed | rich people prove it to us day in and day out |
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| 14:57.01 | Ka[L]ekin | You're being stupid. |
| 14:57.06 | Ashamed | how is that not corrupt? |
| 14:57.06 | Ashamed | they take advantage of the poorer |
| 14:57.12 | ProzaicMuze | . . . |
| 14:57.18 | Ka[L]ekin | You carry on saying this. |
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| 14:57.23 | Ka[L]ekin | But never give any examples |
| 14:57.25 | Ashamed | A good person would respect anyone no matter what they make |
| 14:57.32 | Ashamed | ... |
| 14:57.36 | Ashamed | The american Govermebnt |
| 14:57.40 | Ashamed | there is an example |
| 14:57.46 | Ka[L]ekin | Okay this has to be some sort of fail troll. :p |
| 14:57.47 | Ashamed | OUR courte system is a system of money |
| 14:57.54 | Ka[L]ekin | Because I can't believe you would be so ignorant. >_< |
| 14:57.58 | ProzaicMuze | You sound like a victim, point to everyone else |
| 14:58.03 | Ashamed | ... you are being ignorant |
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| 14:58.11 | ctccromer | map question: how do i disable my unit(s) attacking when they stand in range of an enemy... but still allow it when i click (and trigger to issue the order to attack)? |
| 14:58.12 | Ashamed | I work with them daily |
| 14:58.13 | ProzaicMuze | No, we're being unbiased and nonjudgmental |
| 14:58.14 | Ka[L]ekin | There are corrpt CEO's, sure. |
| 14:58.18 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 14:58.21 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-71-122-122-129.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 19h 40m 56s ago, saying: 'You cant place it'. |
| 14:58.22 | Ka[L]ekin | There are also non-corrupt CEO's |
| 14:58.30 | Ka[L]ekin | And there are corrupt people who are not CEOs |
| 14:58.33 | Ka[L]ekin | And who are not wealthy |
| 14:58.52 | Ashamed | of course kal.. but money is the root of all evil :) |
| 14:59.02 | RedWraith | ctccromer, make attack a spell? :P |
| 14:59.09 | Ka[L]ekin | Refer back too the part where I said you're being stupid. |
| 14:59.10 | RedWraith | or, rather, make your unit hold all the time |
| 14:59.11 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 14:59.12 | RedWraith | and on click |
| 14:59.13 | RedWraith | attack |
| 14:59.22 | Phaos | I think you would find that is power not money |
| 14:59.47 | Ashamed | phaos but with money you get power |
| 14:59.50 | Phaos | but it really depends on what your outlook on evil is |
| 14:59.57 | ProzaicMuze | Money is not the root of all evil |
| 15:00.01 | Phaos | people were getting power long before money :P |
| 15:00.01 | depthsofchaos | its not black and white, and theres no such thing as evil only opinions |
| 15:00.02 | ProzaicMuze | It's an amplifier of influence. |
| 15:00.07 | Ashamed | I am talking about taking advantage of people. |
| 15:00.26 | Ashamed | Phaos no they wernt.. they may of had a differnt money system |
| 15:00.34 | Ashamed | but any person in high power and alot of money |
| 15:00.51 | Ashamed | it may of not been "money" |
| 15:00.55 | ProzaicMuze | Is a far better judge of their character than you |
| 15:00.58 | Phaos | you do realise money wasn't on this earth from the day we arrived right ? |
| 15:01.01 | Ashamed | but it was a currency that made you better |
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| 15:02.17 | Ashamed | gandi is one of the only leaders I have ever read about that didn't have money lol |
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| 15:02.37 | Phaos | see what /I/ consider evil is something like the following, the BP bosses not lifting a damn finger and not spending what needed to be spent to fix the problem they caused UNTIL "dad" told them off for being bad |
| 15:02.51 | Ashamed | hmm big company |
| 15:03.05 | Ashamed | the American Goverment is a perfect example too |
| 15:03.13 | RedWraith | Phaos does not understand international politics. |
| 15:03.15 | RedWraith | None of you do. |
| 15:03.16 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 15:03.43 | Ashamed | what does any of this have to do with international politics? |
| 15:03.44 | Phaos | what? my issue has nothing to do with international polotics |
| 15:03.49 | Ashamed | lol |
| 15:04.43 | Phaos | I was simply pointing out peoples outlooks on what is "evil"/"corrupt" is vastly different |
| 15:04.59 | xeSec | Money can make people corrupt |
| 15:05.08 | xeSec | the people that let money define their social status |
| 15:05.15 | Ashamed | and there is ALOT |
| 15:05.22 | Ashamed | i would say more rich people do that.. then not |
| 15:05.24 | xeSec | esp in corporate businesses |
| 15:05.49 | Ashamed | xeSec gots what I am saying!! You must work for corprations too |
| 15:05.59 | ProzaicMuze | I'd say you don't know enough "rich people" personally to say that |
| 15:06.04 | xeSec | except for christal |
| 15:06.05 | xeSec | lol |
| 15:06.10 | Ashamed | lol |
| 15:06.18 | Ashamed | pro I work for the rich |
| 15:06.22 | Ashamed | that is my job |
| 15:06.26 | ProzaicMuze | doesn't mean you "know" them at all |
| 15:06.31 | xeSec | I know plenty of rich people I have seen the best and worst of both sides |
| 15:06.33 | Ashamed | but i see it daily |
| 15:06.43 | xeSec | Money and the amount made can corrupt a person |
| 15:06.48 | Ashamed | .. and i would say i see more richer people doing evil things then nice thing |
| 15:06.55 | Phaos | I see rich people daily too, I also see poor people, whats your point |
| 15:07.09 | ProzaicMuze | anything can corrupt anyone, but saying every person who makes a certain amount is suddenly prone to being corrupt is pure idiocy. |
| 15:07.17 | xeSec | My point is... is that it is your perspecitve on things |
| 15:07.18 | Ashamed | .. i didnt say anyone |
| 15:07.21 | Ashamed | you are not reading it |
| 15:07.28 | Ashamed | i said i know there is a exeption to it |
| 15:07.33 | ProzaicMuze | You are prone to corruption from birth and only from yourself. You just use objects as tools to further your own desires to dominate others |
| 15:07.37 | Ashamed | but i say more if it is on the corrupt side |
| 15:08.13 | depthsofchaos | about 5% of the population is rly rich 40% rly poor, there are more "evil" poor people then rich they just don't have such impact |
| 15:08.24 | ProzaicMuze | ^^ |
| 15:08.25 | Ashamed | yeah exactly |
| 15:08.34 | Ashamed | the percentage is higher on the rich because there is less |
| 15:08.40 | xeSec | And you only decide to become corrupt when you have the object or tool to own your corruption |
| 15:08.47 | Phaos | money is not what makes you evil, it's a far flung misconception. the reason for it is because in our day and age money can get you the things you want, it's the greed for "things you want |
| 15:08.52 | Phaos | that makes you "evil" |
| 15:09.03 | Ashamed | phaos that was good |
| 15:09.09 | Ashamed | I would agree with you |
| 15:09.14 | Ashamed | but money makes you greedy |
| 15:09.17 | Ashamed | so it all ties together |
| 15:09.31 | Ashamed | and some people choose not to make them greedy |
| 15:09.35 | Ashamed | but you don't see that as often |
| 15:09.36 | Phaos | i whole heartedly disagree |
| 15:09.47 | Phaos | would you call bill gates evil ? |
| 15:09.57 | Ashamed | so you are telling me you think there are more CEO's and big companies out there that truly care for us? |
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| 15:10.03 | depthsofchaos | id call him a thief :P |
| 15:10.07 | Ashamed | I would call bill gates compelty evil |
| 15:10.08 | Ashamed | Yes |
| 15:10.10 | RoarMan | Hello! |
| 15:10.10 | Ashamed | FOR FUCKEN SURE |
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| 15:10.40 | ProzaicMuze | Money doesn't make you anything |
| 15:10.45 | ProzaicMuze | NOTHING can make you anything but yourself |
| 15:10.52 | depthsofchaos | and jesus!!! |
| 15:11.02 | ProzaicMuze | !? |
| 15:11.06 | xeSec | No I wouldn't |
| 15:11.45 | xeSec | Even though he might be a thief he is using the money he made for good purposes he is donating so much of it to charity, correct |
| 15:11.47 | Phaos | that funny because his will was written and publisised that his family gets nothing and all his fortune goes to his charities which includes african restablishment programs. he also let a whole mosquitos off in an auditorium of reach people to drive a point home about maleria xD |
| 15:12.20 | depthsofchaos | the cause doesnt justify the means |
| 15:12.24 | Phaos | whole lot of* |
| 15:12.34 | RoarMan | The means doesn't justify the cause. |
| 15:12.36 | RoarMan | OHSNAPMAGIC. |
| 15:12.58 | Ashamed | but phaos the funny thing about that is.. i bet if you look at percentage of how much he actually has its less then 10 % that he gives |
| 15:12.59 | Phaos | I /really/ do not go for that whole "good intentions pave the road to hell" |
| 15:13.17 | Phaos | no, his /entire/ fortune is goign to charities |
| 15:13.17 | xeSec | that is still a shit load of money dude |
| 15:13.26 | xeSec | and phaos is right |
| 15:13.37 | Ashamed | well then he could be good |
| 15:13.38 | xeSec | 10% was supposed to go to his children |
| 15:13.42 | Ashamed | jackie chan does the same |
| 15:13.44 | Phaos | so unless he turns that all into solid assets before he dies, thats ALOT of money |
| 15:14.10 | Ashamed | Jackie chan owns these hotel chains and all of the money goes to people |
| 15:14.13 | Phaos | better to let 1 die then 1000 |
| 15:14.18 | Ashamed | ... so like i said there are some people that ar egood |
| 15:14.42 | Phaos | so the single richest man on earth should be the most evil right ? |
| 15:15.05 | Ashamed | Phaos why do you think he is doing that now?? |
| 15:15.12 | Ashamed | now that he is not really involved in microsoft |
| 15:15.26 | Ashamed | because of all the evil he did do.. to make his company the thing it is now |
| 15:15.29 | Phaos | he is /still/ the richest man |
| 15:15.36 | Ashamed | no he isn't |
| 15:15.42 | Ashamed | bill gates is not the richest man |
| 15:15.46 | xeSec | Yes their are! For the most part you don't find that. I have met so many rich people and I have to say most all of them are self centered and very corrupt |
| 15:16.16 | Phaos | self centered, sure, pricks, sure, but corrupt ? no, just ignorant |
| 15:16.33 | Ashamed | self centered can = corrupt in the powerless eyes |
| 15:16.37 | Phaos | it's not as easy as "he is evil" "she is good" |
| 15:16.40 | nicoli_s | hey, how bout that sc2 huh? |
| 15:16.42 | Ashamed | prick = corrupt |
| 15:16.44 | nicoli_s | enough ceo talk! |
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| 15:16.49 | HP-X|Arthas | nico |
| 15:16.54 | HP-X|Arthas | time for the new release yet? =p |
| 15:17.00 | depthsofchaos | whats sc :p |
| 15:17.07 | HP-X|Arthas | Splinter Cell |
| 15:17.08 | HP-X|Arthas | duh |
| 15:17.10 | Phaos | ok I agree, I just got pulled into the stupid debate >.> |
| 15:17.11 | Ashamed | " Why is he so self-centered, when I have nothing and still give?? " |
| 15:17.16 | nicoli_s | HP-X|Arthas:i wish, i havent been able to get any personal coding done |
| 15:17.18 | Phaos | back to SC2 |
| 15:17.23 | HP-X|Arthas | ah :( |
| 15:17.47 | depthsofchaos | any modelers here willing to help on a map?:o |
| 15:17.54 | xeSec | I have to have my comp re-imaged chad. |
| 15:18.01 | Phaos | what is the model chaos ? |
| 15:18.02 | HP-X|Arthas | i did a cube in blender once :p |
| 15:18.14 | depthsofchaos | not 1 model, a lot, they need skining :o |
| 15:18.27 | depthsofchaos | and i cant do it |
| 15:18.40 | Phaos | I'm not touching animations and bones until blizzard release their gear for max |
| 15:18.41 | Ashamed | oh shiz |
| 15:18.42 | Ashamed | when? |
| 15:18.47 | Phaos | so it's statics for now |
| 15:19.06 | depthsofchaos | static is fine |
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| 15:19.13 | depthsofchaos | these are buildings mostly |
| 15:19.42 | xeSec | OMGZ its naxxan |
| 15:19.44 | Phaos | sketch them, write up a concept of them, and then fire it my way tommorrow |
| 15:19.47 | Ashamed | NAXXAN |
| 15:19.48 | Ashamed | lol |
| 15:19.49 | Ashamed | ibm party |
| 15:19.55 | naxxan | naxxan is here |
| 15:20.01 | Phaos | I'll see what I can do |
| 15:20.20 | Ashamed | Naxxan what is your view on money?? |
| 15:20.33 | xeSec | lol |
| 15:20.34 | xeSec | LOL |
| 15:20.41 | naxxan | money is great.. it just sucks never having any o fit. |
| 15:20.43 | naxxan | of it. |
| 15:21.16 | Ashamed | do you think you would be as good as a person you are now.. if you had a shit ton of it? |
| 15:22.02 | naxxan | nah.. id probably use it to get only things for myself. idk maybe a really nice house up in the mountains filled with nice things that i never touch or even use. |
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| 15:22.19 | Ashamed | lol |
| 15:22.22 | RoarMan | I'd probably just be myself with shit tons of money. |
| 15:22.28 | RoarMan | =D |
| 15:22.34 | Helral | hey all |
| 15:22.35 | xeSec | lol then hire slaves to work for you and pay them 2.00 an hour |
| 15:22.35 | Ashamed | hmmm?? |
| 15:22.41 | RoarMan | Hi Helral! |
| 15:22.46 | Ashamed | hmm ... mby money makes people..... |
| 15:22.52 | RoarMan | xeSec +1, and there called Thai. |
| 15:22.55 | naxxan | 2.00 is pretty steep... |
| 15:22.58 | Furyhunter | xeSec do you realize how much of a contradiction you just made |
| 15:23.08 | Ashamed | yeah 50 cents is more like it |
| 15:23.13 | xeSec | I'm +1 |
| 15:23.20 | Furyhunter | hire slaves |
| 15:23.21 | Furyhunter | pay them |
| 15:23.28 | Ashamed | He is black.. if that counts for anything |
| 15:23.56 | ctccromer | anyone good with the data editor? |
| 15:23.57 | Ashamed | that is modern day slaves fury |
| 15:23.59 | naxxan | slaves have a salary... |
| 15:24.07 | Ashamed | unless you are in some crazy contry |
| 15:24.10 | Ashamed | country** |
| 15:24.15 | Ashamed | then you still have to give them some money |
| 15:24.32 | Furyhunter | doesn't slave imply forced labor? |
| 15:24.41 | Furyhunter | I don't think it's slavery if you... hire... them |
| 15:24.43 | Ashamed | walmart gives the lil asians 10 cents an hour.. but i would still say they are salves |
| 15:24.46 | naxxan | well, think about it.. do you give your slaves shelter and food? |
| 15:24.46 | Furyhunter | I'm talking from a denotation point |
| 15:24.56 | Ashamed | it is.. because they need to work to make money.. but no one will pay them more |
| 15:24.56 | xeSec | some slaves got paid |
| 15:25.00 | xeSec | just very low amounts |
| 15:25.05 | xeSec | nothing to really live offof |
| 15:25.11 | Furyhunter | SOME, but it's still forced labor |
| 15:25.13 | Ashamed | They are still forced to do it because there is nothng elce |
| 15:25.17 | Ashamed | that is a forced job |
| 15:25.23 | xeSec | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:25.29 | naxxan | would you shelter your slaves? feed them? |
| 15:25.41 | Ashamed | if they asked for no money |
| 15:25.46 | Furyhunter | Uh, yeah? If I was so to own a slave, I'd want to keep it from, you know, dying |
| 15:25.50 | ctccromer | alright... then how do i make it so that my player's unit doesnt run away when he's attacked? |
| 15:25.51 | RoarMan | Slaves are slaves, they bend to YOUR whim. |
| 15:25.57 | Ashamed | its either food/shelter.. or 50 cents an hour i will let them choose |
| 15:25.57 | naxxan | alright, and where do you shelter them and feed them from? with whos money do you get those things |
| 15:26.18 | slightlyrandom | ctccromer: there is a flag on the unit data thing |
| 15:26.22 | Furyhunter | The profits of whatever labor said slave would be doing? |
| 15:26.31 | naxxan | then you sir, need to grow a heart |
| 15:26.42 | xeSec | SLAVES |
| 15:26.46 | Furyhunter | Now that was just a social-engineering trap. |
| 15:26.56 | Furyhunter | I'm talking strictly from a business standpoint, not morality. |
| 15:27.21 | slightlyrandom | Dead slaves are only good as fertelizer |
| 15:27.22 | RoarMan | OSHIT. |
| 15:27.24 | naxxan | ah, then you would man the boats that ferry the slaves to america? (or... where ever you want them)? |
| 15:27.25 | Ashamed | Furyhunter> I'm talking strictly from a business standpoint, not morality " I am going to quote that " |
| 15:27.25 | RoarMan | SEEWHATHEDIDTHERE |
| 15:27.32 | slightlyrandom | So, if you want them to work, you better make sure they stay able to work |
| 15:27.34 | Ashamed | because that is how the rich think |
| 15:27.39 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:28.34 | ctccromer | slightlyrandom: which flag? i didnt see one |
| 15:28.56 | slightlyrandom | Pretty sure I saw one |
| 15:29.03 | naxxan | :D @ ashamed |
| 15:29.06 | slightlyrandom | Try and search for flee on that thing |
| 15:29.23 | xeSec | lolz |
| 15:29.47 | Ashamed | am i right?? |
| 15:30.06 | ctccromer | nope slightlyrandom. no flee, run, or anything |
| 15:30.09 | naxxan | yes, let me tell you how id counter that :P (if i were furyhunter) |
| 15:30.12 | slightlyrandom | Strange |
| 15:30.20 | Ashamed | or a rich guy? |
| 15:30.20 | slightlyrandom | I was pretty certain I found it there somewhere |
| 15:30.25 | naxxan | "so you want everyone everywhere to share everything, even if they dont work for it" |
| 15:30.31 | Ashamed | lol |
| 15:30.41 | Ashamed | that would be a perfect rich guy response |
| 15:30.42 | slightlyrandom | Well, like all things Money becomes a problem when it becomes a goal in itself, rather than the means to achieve something |
| 15:30.51 | naxxan | yup |
| 15:31.02 | naxxan | @ ashamed* |
| 15:31.30 | naxxan | one could say the only problem with money is not having enough of it |
| 15:31.39 | Ashamed | lol |
| 15:31.47 | naxxan | i think the last time i checked the united states national debt was at 13 trillion or something like that. |
| 15:31.53 | Ashamed | Naxxan you would make a perfect rich person |
| 15:31.58 | slightlyrandom | Or rather, once you discard nuances and focus exclusively on one world view, be it economics or whatever, you end up in a system that while internally sound and logical, doesnt make sense if you step back from it |
| 15:32.08 | xeSec | If I had more money I would buy ashamed and make him my personal prostitute |
| 15:32.14 | Ashamed | :( |
| 15:32.28 | naxxan | LOL@xesec |
| 15:32.29 | Ashamed | how many times would I have to do it a night? |
| 15:32.39 | xeSec | about 87 |
| 15:32.43 | Ashamed | oh shit |
| 15:32.46 | naxxan | @slightly well if you do that you have a problem, its called a one-track mind. broaden your horizons |
| 15:32.53 | slightlyrandom | Yes |
| 15:33.06 | slightlyrandom | Businesses are like lawnmovers |
| 15:33.13 | ctccromer | allllright i guess ill try asking those 2 questions later. I'll make the dummy now then |
| 15:33.20 | Ashamed | its funny now everyone is agreeing with me |
| 15:33.25 | slightlyrandom | Extremely good at cutting grass, adept at it and a nice tool. You just dont want to apply them to everything |
| 15:33.33 | Ashamed | but 10 minutes ago.. i was being called an idiot and a "Troll" |
| 15:33.38 | naxxan | LOL |
| 15:33.44 | xeSec | TROLLIN |
| 15:33.46 | xeSec | TROLLIN |
| 15:33.50 | Ashamed | because i was saying money corrupts most people |
| 15:33.57 | Ashamed | but since it doesn't corrupt all people.. it makes me a troll |
| 15:33.59 | slightlyrandom | Ashamed: any non-nuanced statement is probably ignorant |
| 15:34.02 | naxxan | @slightly the lawnmower is only as good as it is built and maintained. |
| 15:34.05 | nicoli_s | man i feel like we have gotten off the sc2 topic very quickly |
| 15:34.11 | Ashamed | Who cares |
| 15:34.14 | Ashamed | this is a chat room |
| 15:34.22 | Ashamed | if you have a sc2 question ask it.. it will be answered |
| 15:34.24 | slightlyrandom | Hey, I tried to help with the one sc2 question that popped up |
| 15:34.33 | supadots | fine |
| 15:34.36 | naxxan | ... THERE ARE ECONOMICS IN SC2! |
| 15:34.37 | supadots | ill ask a question |
| 15:34.46 | Ashamed | whats up supadots? |
| 15:34.51 | supadots | how do i make custom resources in sc2 |
| 15:34.54 | supadots | MONEY |
| 15:34.57 | Ashamed | its almost lunch time |
| 15:34.59 | supadots | moar |
| 15:34.59 | naxxan | pay someone to do it |
| 15:35.05 | Ashamed | naxxan and xesec what time you guys going to lunch? |
| 15:35.09 | Tolkfan | oh oh! I'll ask! Is there really no "delete region" function in the trigger editor? |
| 15:35.13 | Tolkfan | oh, and sorry for going *offtopic* |
| 15:35.23 | supadots | lol |
| 15:35.28 | supadots | ---^ |
| 15:35.37 | naxxan | oh i was enjoying that chat until it got all technical with triggers |
| 15:35.53 | xeSec | nevvvvar |
| 15:35.57 | xeSec | I need cigs |
| 15:36.01 | Tolkfan | I can kill a man with my triggers |
| 15:36.10 | supadots | but i got a real question, how do i make it so regions dont show up all the time. |
| 15:36.13 | naxxan | idk, i normally lunch at like 12-1 area... makes the day seem faster |
| 15:36.20 | naxxan | supadots |
| 15:36.30 | supadots | mhm |
| 15:36.35 | supadots | its just annoying |
| 15:36.35 | naxxan | i normally use a sledgehammer for that, but if you wanted you cold use a conventional household hammer.. |
| 15:36.56 | supadots | lol |
| 15:36.57 | supadots | im srs |
| 15:37.03 | supadots | this shit is bugging me |
| 15:37.15 | naxxan | me too. i am on my 8th monitor since ive been editing maps on sc2 because im not smart enough |
| 15:37.28 | Tolkfan | show up in the editor or in-game? :P |
| 15:37.30 | naxxan | i always needed to delete a region |
| 15:37.36 | slightlyrandom | http://maxbarry.com/2010/01/22/news.html |
| 15:37.43 | supadots | they show up in the editor |
| 15:37.44 | HP-X|Arthas | Tolkfan: ill give you a lesson in going off topic in here some later time |
| 15:37.50 | supadots | even when im editing doodads |
| 15:38.14 | supadots | any way to toggle to hide them? |
| 15:38.16 | Tolkfan | make a point called "region_graveyard" and move unwanted region there, no other way :P |
| 15:38.20 | slightlyrandom | Tried the View dropdown ? |
| 15:38.27 | supadots | yeah |
| 15:38.32 | xeSec | how do i change my name color |
| 15:38.33 | Ashamed | yeah you can create regions lol |
| 15:38.35 | xeSec | I hate black shit |
| 15:38.44 | slightlyrandom | Name where ? |
| 15:38.47 | naxxan | wow really? i hate corn in my shit |
| 15:38.49 | xeSec | here |
| 15:38.54 | slightlyrandom | Try a better client |
| 15:38.56 | Tolkfan | if you have black shit, you should go see a doctor |
| 15:39.07 | slightlyrandom | mIRC is good |
| 15:39.08 | Ashamed | .. yah it means blood useally |
| 15:39.11 | Ashamed | usally* |
| 15:39.17 | naxxan | usually |
| 15:39.20 | Tolkfan | or eating huge amounts of coal |
| 15:39.34 | xeSec | I know mIRC is good I can't just download it on to my laptop |
| 15:39.35 | naxxan | in mother russia, norris chucks you! |
| 15:39.49 | slightlyrandom | What? Of course you can just download it to your laptop |
| 15:40.05 | xeSec | No, I can't without getting in trouble |
| 15:40.23 | xeSec | Esp when my comp is being re-imaged |
| 15:40.26 | naxxan | call the helpdesk xesec |
| 15:40.37 | Ashamed | Dont call it |
| 15:40.37 | xeSec | ring |
| 15:40.38 | xeSec | ring |
| 15:40.43 | naxxan | hola? |
| 15:41.02 | xeSec | I called on IN2929894 can you please help me resolve this ticket |
| 15:41.07 | Tolkfan | am I the only one that hates the data editor? |
| 15:41.10 | naxxan | one moment please. |
| 15:41.18 | slightlyrandom | Nope |
| 15:41.19 | RoarMan | Hey Tolkfan you're not alone. |
| 15:41.26 | xeSec | oh no |
| 15:41.27 | xeSec | ! |
| 15:41.27 | slightlyrandom | The dataeditor is an unwieldy mistress |
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| 15:42.00 | xeSec | naxxan |
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| 15:42.08 | xeSec | I found it out |
| 15:42.17 | naxxan | ashamed, my names red. |
| 15:42.36 | naxxan | naxxan |
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| 15:43.17 | Ashamed | brb lunch time :) |
| 15:43.22 | nicoli_s | my god are you people going to force me to moderate the channel until you can talksc2? |
| 15:43.38 | Furyhunter | hahahaha |
| 15:43.39 | naxxan | thats a moderators job? |
| 15:43.41 | xeSec | lol |
| 15:43.46 | xeSec | lol |
| 15:44.02 | nicoli_s | moderator, whos a moderator? |
| 15:44.03 | Furyhunter | you should know that almost every IRC channel is susceptible to not talking about what they're supposed to. |
| 15:44.05 | nicoli_s | im an admin fool |
| 15:44.18 | nicoli_s | aka i can do whatever the fuck i please here |
| 15:44.22 | Ashamed | awesome |
| 15:44.26 | Furyhunter | Now that's my kind of admin. |
| 15:44.27 | naxxan | oh my appologies. well either way its a public chatroom |
| 15:44.33 | Ashamed | Sixen = friend of mine from back in teh dayz |
| 15:44.43 | xeSec | so you are an operator/moderator/admin |
| 15:44.45 | xeSec | same damn thing |
| 15:44.49 | nicoli_s | not true |
| 15:44.53 | Furyhunter | Does Sixen play WoW btw? |
| 15:44.57 | naxxan | BOULDER RAPID RESPONSE REACTION TEAM |
| 15:44.58 | Furyhunter | Just curious |
| 15:45.01 | nicoli_s | a moderator is def not the same thing as an admin |
| 15:45.04 | nicoli_s | Furyhunter:doubt it |
| 15:45.06 | Ashamed | RRRT! |
| 15:45.07 | Ashamed | oh shiz |
| 15:45.13 | Ashamed | yes it is nicoli |
| 15:45.22 | xeSec | When you become an op in IRC you have full channel control |
| 15:45.28 | xeSec | sounds like an admin to me |
| 15:45.37 | naxxan | thats like saying a police officer and a lawman are different |
| 15:45.37 | nicoli_s | Ashamed:by definition moderator is below admin |
| 15:45.46 | nicoli_s | in like every single computer related function |
| 15:45.52 | nicoli_s | whether in irc, forums, websites, etc |
| 15:46.03 | xeSec | Moderator is just and admin of a web forum |
| 15:46.38 | casperb | nah admin and moderator is not the same thing, at least not by definition :P |
| 15:46.46 | naxxan | i once played with someone named nikola... |
| 15:46.47 | casperb | admin = root access :P |
| 15:47.03 | naxxan | dont use a dictionary, use a thesaurus |
| 15:47.32 | casperb | a tyrannosaurus? |
| 15:47.36 | casperb | ;-P |
| 15:47.59 | naxxan | ive never seen a live one of those |
| 15:48.13 | casperb | Should get one as a pet, they're awesome! |
| 15:48.26 | casperb | Tug of war == bad idea tho.. |
| 15:48.49 | naxxan | idk, id prefer hellokitty |
| 15:50.07 | Mojache | Doing a quick stress test with a small project of mine |
| 15:50.09 | Mojache | http://www.urealms.com/groundbold/ |
| 15:50.12 | Mojache | anyone not busy |
| 15:50.22 | naxxan | im at work |
| 15:50.35 | xeSec | Moderators are assigned to "moderate" something which means they are in charge of seeing that it does what it is supposed to do and nothing more. Most moderators are driven mad by their lust for power and will cause suffering and hatred at every turn because it makes them happy to see others unhappy. What the other definitions here leave out is that moderators aren't just for forums or websites. There are moderators of sorts in game |
| 15:50.59 | xeSec | back at life for making them monsters by taking their anger out on anyone they can. |
| 15:51.19 | nicoli_s | you guys still talking about this? my god go starcraft 2! |
| 15:51.21 | xeSec | I used to play a really cool MUD called Moongate until the moderators(caleed immortals for some gay reason) went mad with power, changed the name of the game and banned me for trying to report a bug. Losers. |
| 15:51.39 | xeSec | I can't play it |
| 15:51.45 | casperb | Teh server is down! |
| 15:51.46 | xeSec | MY COMPUTER IS GOING TO BE RE_IMGAGED |
| 15:51.58 | naxxan | the system... is down... the system... is down... |
| 15:52.00 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/3740-contest-spell-vote-1-3/ |
| 15:52.02 | vjeux | vote now :) |
| 15:52.25 | nicoli_s | vjeux:thats not the spell contest :P |
| 15:52.44 | vjeux | oops |
| 15:52.46 | vjeux | wrong name :x |
| 15:53.16 | xeSec | TROLLIN |
| 15:53.22 | naxxan | QUICK, GET GANDOLF |
| 15:53.54 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/3740-contest-wallpaper-vote-1-3/ |
| 15:53.55 | supadots | how can you make a buff stack? |
| 15:55.45 | vjeux | hmm, making it go away for some minutes :X |
| 15:57.21 | Helral | there's a stack value. in the buff statistics. if I'm correct. |
| 15:59.23 | Helral | supadots: Stats - Maximum Stack Count <--- |
| 16:00.03 | supadots | k thx |
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| 16:00.16 | supadots | what if you make it 0? |
| 16:01.11 | Helral | think -1 is infinite. |
| 16:08.17 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/4068-contest-wallpaper-vote-1-3/?unread |
| 16:09.04 | ProzaicMuze | well gargled monkey semen. . . this damned attack actor won't play!! |
| 16:11.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Glynn (45b33692@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.179.54.146) |
| 16:15.31 | picklefish1 | hey vejuz |
| 16:15.36 | picklefish1 | vejeux |
| 16:15.46 | picklefish1 | What was that tool you were working on? |
| 16:15.53 | picklefish1 | started with an S |
| 16:15.58 | picklefish1 | I couldn't find it last night |
| 16:16.38 | picklefish1 | going to work, pm me if you get this message, thanks :) |
| 16:19.45 | Ashamed | They see me trollen, trying to catch my trollen dirty! |
| 16:20.47 | Ashamed | Naxxan, xeSec?? you guys there |
| 16:21.00 | naxxan | they see me trollen...they hatin... patrollin the chat rooms tryin to catch me trollen dirty |
| 16:21.18 | Furyhunter | So where is sixen anyway? |
| 16:21.30 | naxxan | hes third from the top on the list to your right |
| 16:21.32 | Ashamed | there is already a song called that |
| 16:21.48 | nicoli_s | Furyhunter:he usually isnt on during the day |
| 16:22.04 | Furyhunter | A'ight |
| 16:22.10 | naxxan | xesec is re-imaging his laptop |
| 16:22.50 | Ashamed | he would |
| 16:22.55 | Ashamed | thats some stupid shit |
| 16:23.06 | Ashamed | too much porn on the machine? |
| 16:23.46 | naxxan | yeah dude |
| 16:23.49 | naxxan | food porn |
| 16:24.36 | naxxan | the trollin song that is out is half assed and not even very good. |
| 16:24.44 | naxxan | most of the lyrics are from the original song |
| 16:25.13 | naxxan | the one im watching anyway.. |
| 16:27.50 | naxxan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno&feature=related |
| 16:27.51 | naxxan | LOL |
| 16:29.06 | naxxan | the kid is sooo pissed at the guy |
| 16:30.13 | depthsofchaos | thats not a kid, thats someones mom xD |
| 16:31.27 | depthsofchaos | anyone got a good idea for random island generating algorithm?:o |
| 16:31.27 | naxxan | haha my bad |
| 16:31.39 | naxxan | i dont. |
| 16:31.58 | Ashamed | ... like making random islands? |
| 16:32.02 | *** part/#sc2mapster dimfish (~James_Jen@pv131010.reshsg.uci.edu) |
| 16:32.09 | depthsofchaos | ...like yeah |
| 16:32.22 | Ashamed | with terrain? |
| 16:32.28 | depthsofchaos | yep |
| 16:32.38 | Ashamed | I would not have a clue how to make a map randomly generate terrain |
| 16:32.49 | depthsofchaos | i have a clue but i dont know if its good enough |
| 16:32.53 | Ashamed | you can do it |
| 16:33.03 | Ashamed | ... because you can change terrain with triggers right? |
| 16:33.07 | Ashamed | I have not really checked it out |
| 16:33.09 | depthsofchaos | with actors |
| 16:33.19 | Ashamed | and trigger the actors |
| 16:33.41 | depthsofchaos | ye but then theres another hard part to outline the created islands :o |
| 16:33.43 | Ashamed | If you do it.. good job. That will be a cool system |
| 16:37.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster PregomyEgo (20616e3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.32.97.110.59) |
| 16:39.04 | Tolkfan | different fog height for different map regions - possible? :P |
| 16:39.41 | depthsofchaos | if you want to use them at the same time, not |
| 16:40.09 | Tolkfan | meh, too bad that fog emitting doodad doesnt work :( |
| 16:40.24 | depthsofchaos | make your own :P |
| 16:41.50 | Tolkfan | is it even doable? |
| 16:42.28 | depthsofchaos | well you could use other emitters with changed opacity/texture/tint |
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| 16:47.32 | Ashamed | what is up |
| 16:48.31 | Helral | the opposite of down. |
| 16:48.50 | Ashamed | oh yeah |
| 16:48.52 | Ashamed | OH YEAH |
| 16:49.32 | PregomyEgo | YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:50.09 | Ashamed | is everyone working hard on maos? |
| 16:50.12 | Ashamed | maps* |
| 16:51.08 | PregomyEgo | no screw MAOS!!!!!! |
| 16:51.32 | depthsofchaos | mao is our great leader |
| 16:51.50 | slightlyrandom | There is only one Mao |
| 16:51.56 | slightlyrandom | The rest are imposters |
| 16:51.58 | slightlyrandom | Infidels |
| 16:52.03 | PregomyEgo | your an imposter |
| 16:52.15 | Ashamed | NO U |
| 16:52.21 | PregomyEgo | NO U |
| 16:52.24 | Ashamed | NO UI |
| 16:52.27 | Ashamed | NO U* |
| 16:52.36 | slightlyrandom | NO HIM |
| 16:52.41 | Ashamed | NO HER |
| 16:52.44 | Tolkfan | who's this Mao guy? |
| 16:52.49 | depthsofchaos | i wish i had a slave that could read my brain and make my map |
| 16:52.50 | Ashamed | MAO |
| 16:52.56 | Tolkfan | ZOD |
| 16:52.59 | Ashamed | dude that would be awesome depth |
| 16:53.16 | depthsofchaos | i know right?:p any mind reading slaves around? |
| 16:53.17 | PregomyEgo | I have a slave |
| 16:53.25 | depthsofchaos | your mom |
| 16:53.30 | PregomyEgo | is my slave |
| 16:53.33 | Ashamed | OH SHIZ |
| 16:53.35 | PregomyEgo | with your mom |
| 16:54.18 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/wallpaper-bnet-improvement-civilization-death-baneling/ |
| 16:54.41 | PregomyEgo | woop woop |
| 16:54.42 | naxxan | efasdfglksjdfhgeiruhfoaskjdnfkjnafasdfg3df21h3sfgd54sd98f4gsdfgsadfafd321adgf654sdfg68s47fgd61fgd3.g2sdg+gvs+/-*dfg-85sfg+fg+f5g+6d4f6s1fg1sdf1 |
| 16:54.52 | PregomyEgo | exactly what I was thinking |
| 16:55.02 | naxxan | thats what i was thinking also. |
| 16:55.12 | PregomyEgo | i guessed that |
| 16:55.30 | Tolkfan | Screw battle.net and the apm monkeys! There is only galaxy editor! |
| 16:55.40 | naxxan | star trek? |
| 16:55.44 | naxxan | the enterprise? |
| 16:55.51 | naxxan | beam him up scotty... now! |
| 16:55.59 | PregomyEgo | NO!!!!!! Screw you!!!!!! Battlenet.com is the shit.... your a noob |
| 16:56.17 | naxxan | battlenet.com is really the kilngons |
| 16:56.37 | Ashamed | lol its not battlenet.com |
| 16:56.41 | Ashamed | its just battle.net |
| 16:56.48 | Ashamed | LAWLZ |
| 16:56.50 | Tolkfan | battlenet.net ? |
| 16:56.55 | Ashamed | lol |
| 16:56.56 | Tolkfan | battle.net.com? |
| 16:57.14 | Ashamed | dude omg |
| 16:57.20 | Ashamed | i need to make a beam him up spell |
| 16:57.29 | Ashamed | that would be epic |
| 16:57.36 | Ashamed | not really >< |
| 16:57.37 | PregomyEgo | I wish I could quit my job and just sit and refresh battlenet.com all day long...... thats what I will do when I make enough money to survive the rest of my life.... just keep hitting refresh |
| 16:57.39 | naxxan | you like gettin beamed |
| 16:57.45 | PregomyEgo | thats hot |
| 16:57.49 | Tolkfan | http://www.starcraft2.net.pl/dokumenty/zalaczniki/2-1610.jpg battle.net |
| 16:57.53 | naxxan | pregomy im at work right now!! |
| 16:58.01 | PregomyEgo | me too |
| 16:58.13 | naxxan | then why would you quit if you can refresh battlenet.com all day |
| 16:58.22 | naxxan | youre on the internet now, whats stopping you? |
| 16:58.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster ctccromer (446aa0b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.106.160.184) |
| 16:58.57 | Ashamed | lol |
| 16:59.02 | PregomyEgo | I still have work to do so I can t refresh every once in a while... which really upsets me |
| 16:59.05 | Ashamed | I AM AT WORK TOO |
| 16:59.29 | ctccromer | how do you trigger that when a unit (variable) is alive, all units owned by player 15 attack it before any other units player 1 owns? |
| 16:59.31 | naxxan | i refresh battlenet.com every day |
| 16:59.49 | PregomyEgo | you press F12 and then ESC and then the power button |
| 17:00.02 | PregomyEgo | i want to refresh at least every 6 seconds |
| 17:00.39 | Ashamed | i bet that could be done with order ctcc |
| 17:00.43 | RedWraith | ffffffuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 17:00.55 | ctccromer | how though, ashamed? |
| 17:01.11 | Ashamed | hmm actually that would be hard |
| 17:01.21 | ctccromer | if i just issue them an order to attack it wont they like run a long way just to find it? |
| 17:01.23 | Ashamed | i would say order on a region.. but that will make it so they attack what ever they see first |
| 17:01.41 | Ashamed | there has to be a way |
| 17:01.44 | ctccromer | heres what i'm trying to do: |
| 17:01.45 | Ashamed | let me check out the orders |
| 17:01.49 | Ashamed | and i will tell you what i come up with |
| 17:02.03 | ctccromer | i hve it set up so that when a dialog button is pressed, a marauder (named Dummy) spawns by me |
| 17:02.08 | ctccromer | can't move or anything |
| 17:02.12 | ctccromer | just sits there until it dies |
| 17:02.21 | ctccromer | i just want that to pull everyone off ME and get them to attack that |
| 17:02.29 | slightlyrandom | How about just altering the attack priority of the unit ? |
| 17:02.30 | Ashamed | even humans? |
| 17:02.43 | ctccromer | every unit owned by player 15 |
| 17:02.51 | Ashamed | ok let me check out some triggerxs |
| 17:02.51 | ctccromer | which is basically every unit that can move |
| 17:02.52 | slightlyrandom | Or should it apply to all units, even those out of range ? |
| 17:02.57 | Ashamed | i will tell you what i come up with |
| 17:02.57 | Tolkfan | brute force: make a 1sec periodic trigger that orders all hostile units to attack that unit of yours :P |
| 17:02.58 | RedWraith | Well, looks like I need to make a map that will work in the popularity system. |
| 17:03.02 | ctccromer | all units in combat |
| 17:03.08 | RedWraith | brb making a map that's super simple and only has 4 players >:[ |
| 17:03.16 | slightlyrandom | Simple and short |
| 17:03.21 | RedWraith | That too. |
| 17:03.23 | slightlyrandom | Tic tac toe |
| 17:03.24 | RedWraith | raagaghhataraghah |
| 17:03.28 | PregomyEgo | say this once at your computer and it will fix any SC2 issues you have "I am your worshiper, I love you dearly with all my heart. I will sacrifice anything you wife. You are my heart and soul and I can't live without you"... say tha once and do spirit fingers at the monitor and it will fix your issue |
| 17:03.44 | slightlyrandom | Best of one, tic tac toe |
| 17:03.49 | slightlyrandom | That'll be the bomb |
| 17:04.24 | slightlyrandom | Make it singleplayer so you play against yourself, that cuts down on the playtime |
| 17:04.31 | PregomyEgo | X |
| 17:04.39 | PregomyEgo | O |
| 17:04.51 | PregomyEgo | XOX |
| 17:04.57 | PregomyEgo | XXO |
| 17:05.03 | PregomyEgo | XOO |
| 17:05.04 | Tolkfan | If I actually met the Data Editor as a person, in real life, I would stab him in the eye... really |
| 17:05.11 | PregomyEgo | yes!!!!! two rowa |
| 17:05.14 | Ashamed | _] [_ |
| 17:05.15 | PregomyEgo | rows* |
| 17:05.19 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 17:05.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster mikelat (~mikelat@H18.C204.cci.switchworks.net) |
| 17:05.31 | slightlyrandom | Well, thats some bad news |
| 17:05.46 | Ashamed | ... i would ask him why he lets us duplcate... if it doesn't work! |
| 17:06.01 | slightlyrandom | I'll have to remove the easier difficulties in my map so people lose and get booted out faster |
| 17:06.07 | PregomyEgo | yes ask him...find out WHY? |
| 17:08.33 | Ashamed | I will |
| 17:08.36 | Tolkfan | oh, this unlockable dominion stuff is so cool! they are like giving us stuff that we mostly extracted from beta files, months ago, COOL! |
| 17:08.45 | Ashamed | californa girls are unforgetiable! |
| 17:08.56 | ctccromer | slightlyrandom: oh i didnt see the "change attack priority of the unit?" thing. how do i do that? |
| 17:09.05 | Ashamed | thats what my Best Buy user is listening too |
| 17:09.06 | ctccromer | that soudns like itd be simple and work well |
| 17:09.12 | PregomyEgo | melt your popcycle |
| 17:09.37 | Tolkfan | units have a stat that tells the AI who to attack first |
| 17:09.49 | ctccromer | stat? k ill look |
| 17:09.58 | PregomyEgo | yes go look |
| 17:11.10 | ctccromer | only thing i see is Combat - Attack Target Priority |
| 17:11.20 | ctccromer | sounds like itd work... but then i see its a number..? lol |
| 17:11.34 | PregomyEgo | NOOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:11.44 | RedWraith | Is there some way to make it so when units collide, one gets knocked clear across the map, sort of like pushing a larger unit with a bunch of smaller ones, but as if the larger one were super light weight/ |
| 17:12.01 | Ashamed | redwraith of course ther eis |
| 17:12.12 | RedWraith | just no one knows, right? ;D |
| 17:12.13 | Ashamed | the challenge is to figure it out lol.. I |
| 17:12.19 | Tolkfan | you'll have to experiment with all those AI Target Priority, one of them works :P |
| 17:12.50 | ctccromer | theyre all numbers >.< i need to say "attack dummy first" |
| 17:13.00 | Ashamed | but redwraith it does seem like a very possable thing to do. |
| 17:13.06 | Tolkfan | also, check under "unit flags" theres something like "Always a threat to attackers" |
| 17:13.42 | RedWraith | bah, you're no fun. ;D |
| 17:13.50 | ctccromer | just checked it, brb ill see what that does |
| 17:13.51 | RedWraith | I'll get this down, and then I'll make zergling soccer! |
| 17:14.34 | Ashamed | Thats the spirit |
| 17:14.36 | Tolkfan | Where is the beta phase 2? I demand it! I still dont give a crap about b.net, but I want it |
| 17:14.50 | depthsofchaos | ok somehow i hid the units on the map, whats the command for it :p |
| 17:14.52 | Ashamed | DO YOU DEMAND |
| 17:14.59 | naxxan | baneling soccer would be better |
| 17:15.01 | Tolkfan | shift+u |
| 17:15.06 | ctccromer | tolkfan: that works :D thank you |
| 17:15.11 | depthsofchaos | aint working :/ |
| 17:15.12 | Ashamed | yeah wraith nazxaan has you there |
| 17:15.20 | Ashamed | they actually spin |
| 17:15.20 | RedWraith | Zerglings = players |
| 17:15.20 | RedWraith | :P |
| 17:15.24 | Ashamed | :) |
| 17:15.31 | Ashamed | I would make them marines |
| 17:15.37 | Ashamed | or ghost |
| 17:15.54 | Ashamed | and make all the commands skills |
| 17:15.54 | depthsofchaos | ok it was a bug reload fixed :o |
| 17:17.03 | naxxan | ya zerglin soccer... who plays soccer on all 4's? :) |
| 17:17.03 | Helral | a dog? |
| 17:17.03 | naxxan | this aint no air bud! |
| 17:17.43 | Tolkfan | seriously... phase 2 has to be close :O |
| 17:17.45 | Ashamed | make it air bud soccer! |
| 17:17.48 | Ashamed | its not |
| 17:17.53 | Tolkfan | silence |
| 17:17.58 | Ashamed | its going to be like the last 2 weeks of july |
| 17:18.11 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 17:18.14 | RedWraith | a racing game |
| 17:18.22 | RedWraith | where you have to get through a stream of zerglings. |
| 17:18.24 | RedWraith | :O |
| 17:18.27 | Ashamed | racing games on starcraft suck.. sry |
| 17:18.28 | naxxan | i have a great idea for a map, give me a couple minutes while i type it out... tell me what you guys think |
| 17:18.33 | Ashamed | its just not fun when you can play a real car game |
| 17:18.36 | RedWraith | I hate it. |
| 17:18.39 | Tolkfan | they said "a few" weeks before launch, so it can't be TWO weeks! :O |
| 17:18.47 | Tolkfan | has to be 4, yeah, thats it |
| 17:18.48 | Ashamed | ok mby three weeks then |
| 17:18.51 | RedWraith | like it matters |
| 17:18.52 | Ashamed | nope |
| 17:18.57 | RedWraith | they wont fix the popularity system by then |
| 17:19.00 | RedWraith | so it'll be shit either way |
| 17:19.18 | Ashamed | i dont know i think that system is the only thing that makes sense |
| 17:19.21 | Tolkfan | but... maybe they'll add moar doodads! |
| 17:19.37 | Tolkfan | or, we could ... share our custom doodads on facebook! |
| 17:19.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster xeSec (20616e41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.32.97.110.65) |
| 17:19.49 | RedWraith | Ashamed, they should do it by unique player identities in the past hour. |
| 17:19.51 | Ashamed | I rather xeSec i sback |
| 17:19.53 | RedWraith | That's REAL popularity. |
| 17:20.00 | naxxan | so theres 3 races that dont like any of the other races right.. they travel to different zones and area whether its on earth or in space somewhere... one race could be like... a human race you know pretty balanced between biological and technology... the other two races would have to be like... idk one primal, like animals, and the other an advanced alien race... then they have to build up a base strong enough to either withstand a |
| 17:20.08 | Ashamed | how does it work wraith?? |
| 17:20.18 | Ashamed | I dont even know how maps become popular |
| 17:20.23 | RedWraith | naxxan |
| 17:20.25 | RedWraith | listen |
| 17:20.27 | RedWraith | I hate you. |
| 17:20.39 | xeSec | Lol, |
| 17:20.44 | xeSec | You hated naxxy |
| 17:21.04 | Ashamed | Naxxan for some reason that game idea seems like another story i have heard before |
| 17:21.10 | Ashamed | but.. I could be wrong |
| 17:21.15 | Ashamed | and if thats the case go for it! |
| 17:21.15 | naxxan | idk man, i JUST thought of it |
| 17:21.20 | xeSec | Ashamed is retarded |
| 17:21.21 | Ashamed | I can't believe it hasn't been done yet |
| 17:21.25 | naxxan | never even heard of that kind of map before |
| 17:21.28 | Ashamed | it just makes sense |
| 17:21.35 | naxxan | oh wait starcraft 1 and starcraft 2. DUH |
| 17:21.50 | Ashamed | ONE balanced human race ONE ANIMAL BRUTAL RACE and ONE super smart Alien race.. That makes perfect sense! |
| 17:21.57 | Ashamed | oh... shiz |
| 17:22.02 | Ashamed | thats the storyline in sc? |
| 17:22.05 | PregomyEgo | oh shiz |
| 17:22.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster bam_ftw (~email@aesq76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 17:22.25 | PregomyEgo | ur so smart.... God I wish I had a man like you |
| 17:22.28 | naxxan | redwraith man... just so you know. i really dont know you at all, therefore my feelings toward you are neutral. grow up! |
| 17:22.40 | Ashamed | you gay pregomyego? |
| 17:22.43 | Tolkfan | Would be so funny if they launched phase 2 and said "sorry guys, we broke compatibility with old maps, just remake them" |
| 17:23.08 | Ashamed | they wont tolk |
| 17:23.08 | Helral | Tolkfan: result - a lot of people cancel their pre-orders. |
| 17:23.11 | naxxan | im a gamer, not an editor. it wouldnt affect me :P |
| 17:23.12 | xeSec | Obviously if he is Prego |
| 17:23.12 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 17:23.26 | Ashamed | L O L |
| 17:23.32 | naxxan | roflmao |
| 17:23.50 | xeSec | Prego with gay eggos |
| 17:24.03 | Tolkfan | I'm an editor! oh, who opened my trigger module?! |
| 17:24.03 | Ashamed | because aint no way a girl is play sc |
| 17:24.14 | Ashamed | playen* |
| 17:24.15 | PregomyEgo | xeSec is obviously just in love with you and ur smart idea's ....he is a Noob..i Can tell...... and obviously a fag to think that a wom,an can get pregnant being Gay,,,,,,, FAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:24.24 | naxxan | thats true actually dude. ive never seen a girl playin sc |
| 17:24.38 | xeSec | Learn to type? |
| 17:24.57 | Helral | *pokes sparky* wake up ;p they need you to whack them. |
| 17:24.58 | naxxan | ive seen gay (lesbian) women that are pregnant! |
| 17:25.02 | PregomyEgo | I make 10X you make fag... when my job says its reqyired for mt o type right I will... til then stop bveing a fag |
| 17:25.04 | Ashamed | .. no i think I was getting at that you are a guy |
| 17:25.15 | PregomyEgo | but you said I wasnt a woman so how does that work fag |
| 17:25.16 | Ashamed | .. your job does require you too type |
| 17:25.26 | ctccromer | how do you edit how far away a unit has to be from an enemy unit for it to initiate combat? |
| 17:25.28 | naxxan | well youre a pregnant man then. congrats! |
| 17:25.31 | PregomyEgo | now men can get pregnant in his world |
| 17:25.31 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:25.33 | nicoli_s | hey lets stop acting like children ok now? |
| 17:25.34 | xeSec | I make 10X you make fag |
| 17:25.35 | naxxan | its attack range! |
| 17:25.37 | xeSec | that makes sense |
| 17:25.39 | RedWraith | You're all 12 year olds. >:[ |
| 17:25.42 | PregomyEgo | you seen that done...gross |
| 17:25.43 | RoarMan | naxxan TossGirl? |
| 17:25.45 | RedWraith | Oldest among you is maybe 17. |
| 17:25.45 | Ashamed | The mods back! |
| 17:25.46 | nicoli_s | or i can start banning people |
| 17:25.49 | Ashamed | SHHHH |
| 17:25.50 | Ashamed | MOD IS BACK |
| 17:26.05 | Ashamed | nicoli.. stop being a humb bug.. we are all having fun |
| 17:26.08 | RedWraith | MODS ASLEEP POST SOME SINKS |
| 17:26.15 | naxxan | roarman i never seen your name, and ive never heard of tossgirl .. are you, actually a girl... who is hot... and is tossgirl actually a girl who is hot? |
| 17:26.20 | RedWraith | http://www.bathroomfixtures.us/pedestal-sink-400.jpg |
| 17:26.22 | RedWraith | zombg |
| 17:26.23 | nicoli_s | Ashamed:this isnt the channel to call each other fags back and forth |
| 17:26.30 | nicoli_s | not saying yer doing that but still |
| 17:26.30 | naxxan | aw damn... work is making me go team talk for a while. boooo. |
| 17:26.44 | naxxan | do you have a problem with fags nicoli? |
| 17:26.49 | nicoli_s | this is a dev channel, for people devving things, to ask dev questions and to discuss dev issues |
| 17:27.02 | ctccromer | *cough* i have a question :) |
| 17:27.15 | PregomyEgo | Im just offened that some one actually thinks men eing pregnant is a reality.... it grosses me out |
| 17:27.15 | ctccromer | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.26 | RoarMan | Yes naxxan TossGirl is hot: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_X56mregoBL4/SPAVVSKAA5I/AAAAAAAAAk0/tETFkTAgj5w/s400/TossGirlAtchucan.jpg |
| 17:27.29 | nicoli_s | naxxan:i have a problem when people who have legitamite questions are being overshadowed by other shit |
| 17:27.37 | Tolkfan | I've seen an american tv show where some old guy was just calling everyone fags, It was solid entertainment! |
| 17:27.43 | Ashamed | i agree with nicoli we should be saying fag |
| 17:27.51 | Ashamed | We don't know who is in this channel |
| 17:27.52 | Helral | ctccromer: acquire range. |
| 17:27.56 | ProzaicMuze | nicoli, I have no problem answering questions when people are chatting |
| 17:28.05 | ProzaicMuze | Given that I frequently answer questions, I'd say it's not that bad. |
| 17:28.13 | Ashamed | me too |
| 17:28.17 | Ashamed | ^^ |
| 17:28.19 | RoarMan | Yea guys, it's a community chat room! |
| 17:28.20 | ProzaicMuze | Plus having social environment doesn't hurt SC2mapster at all |
| 17:28.22 | ProzaicMuze | It helps a lot |
| 17:28.23 | RoarMan | For fun and for helpz! |
| 17:28.24 | naxxan | :D we are havin fun, real question are being answered. i take a break for a minute tho... "GDF TEAM MEETING GO!" |
| 17:28.25 | Helral | ctccromer: hmm *searches the correct term* |
| 17:28.26 | PregomyEgo | <xeSec> is obviously sexually confused |
| 17:28.27 | ProzaicMuze | People don't like DULL sites |
| 17:28.40 | nicoli_s | i have no problem with community chat, as long as it doesnt get stupid or offensive |
| 17:28.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-153-61.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 17:28.44 | ctccromer | helral: i searched Range in the data thing, only AI tactical range came up |
| 17:28.49 | nicoli_s | and you all calling each other fags back and forth def borders on offensive |
| 17:28.52 | RoarMan | ITS ABOUT TO GET BUMPEEN! |
| 17:29.50 | PregomyEgo | and actualy I love fags..... I just know they can't get prego so Im wondering why he would think that... curious if he has tried.. |
| 17:29.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ip98-185-253-55.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 17:30.12 | ctccromer | seriously, why not just drop it? |
| 17:30.48 | ctccromer | i usually dont jump into stuff like this but if a head guy REPEATS that it's a bad subject... why not just bury it? |
| 17:31.03 | Helral | ctccromer: attack ability : Ability - Acquire Path Limit <--- |
| 17:31.05 | Ashamed | Heather just quit it >< |
| 17:31.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster FRoZeN (~lul@0606ds6-od.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 17:31.17 | Helral | think that's the one. |
| 17:31.26 | RoarMan | Does "Wait - Pause Trigger" cause the trigger to be paused for ALL players making in not viable in multiplayer maps? |
| 17:31.32 | RoarMan | Like in wc3? |
| 17:31.42 | Ashamed | i would guess so |
| 17:31.46 | RoarMan | Hmm |
| 17:31.50 | Ashamed | but an easy work around |
| 17:31.55 | Ashamed | = have a differnt trigger for each player |
| 17:31.59 | RoarMan | Oh true. |
| 17:32.02 | *** part/#sc2mapster Raharu (~chatzilla@p4FDE6C39.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:32.04 | Ashamed | so it only pauses it for the player you want it for |
| 17:32.11 | RoarMan | That's sound advice. |
| 17:32.17 | RoarMan | Better get to mapping :P |
| 17:32.18 | Ashamed | ty :) |
| 17:32.22 | RoarMan | Np dog, thank YOU. |
| 17:32.54 | ProzaicMuze | don't thank him, in encourages him :S |
| 17:32.59 | RoarMan | XD |
| 17:33.00 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:33.01 | ProzaicMuze | we want his esteem LOW |
| 17:33.06 | RoarMan | Oh sorry. |
| 17:33.07 | Ashamed | very low |
| 17:33.07 | Tolkfan | anyone know if blizz is going to fix the localization thing? or is that a *feature*? |
| 17:33.09 | RoarMan | MOTHERTRUCK YOU ASHAMED> |
| 17:33.10 | ProzaicMuze | then he'll throw his advice at us fo free! |
| 17:33.10 | Ashamed | the lower the better |
| 17:33.21 | RoarMan | Tolkfan there's no word on that actually. |
| 17:33.24 | RoarMan | Hopefully they fix it. |
| 17:33.46 | ProzaicMuze | Yes, but the answer is to buy another copy |
| 17:33.53 | ProzaicMuze | because Activizzard is like that |
| 17:34.08 | Ashamed | ... wiat what localization thing? |
| 17:34.13 | Ashamed | you talking about realms? |
| 17:34.32 | ProzaicMuze | lol oops I just made my model walk upside somehow |
| 17:34.38 | Ashamed | I read something on the blizzard chat saying that we were only region locked for beta |
| 17:35.05 | ProzaicMuze | nah, it'll be region locked for release too and they are considered changing it |
| 17:35.08 | ProzaicMuze | "in the coming years" |
| 17:35.21 | ctccromer | how do you make 1 unit always follow another unit? (i have 2 possible dummies. one that just sits there and takes damage (so you can run away) and 1 that follows you and takes damage off you) |
| 17:35.32 | Tolkfan | Seems stupid that maps with enGB are unreadable in enUS... but then again, so does no LAN or region-lock... |
| 17:36.22 | Helral | Issue Order --> Order targeting unit --> Unit X move to Unit Y (follow command.) |
| 17:36.36 | RoarMan | Tolkfan so does 5mb map limits. |
| 17:37.17 | Ashamed | 5mb is not going to be the limit no way |
| 17:37.30 | Ashamed | that is only going to be for beta |
| 17:37.34 | RoarMan | Ashamed it was when beta was up. |
| 17:37.37 | depthsofchaos | its 10 :P |
| 17:37.53 | Ashamed | i bet it will raise.. or you will be able to get more space |
| 17:38.05 | RoarMan | Ashamed it's gonna get raised now because people were complaining about it. |
| 17:38.08 | depthsofchaos | why would they provide free hosting space forever :o |
| 17:38.13 | depthsofchaos | its gona cost you!! |
| 17:38.16 | Ashamed | i know thats what i am saying |
| 17:38.17 | RoarMan | Blizzard said there gonna implement chat channels too now. |
| 17:38.18 | Ashamed | you will have to pay for it |
| 17:38.29 | Tolkfan | who the hell cares? just publish the maps on sc2mapster :P |
| 17:38.37 | depthsofchaos | and you have to pay for chat channels also i hope |
| 17:38.37 | ProzaicMuze | You will have to pay to let other people play your map. Kinda dumb |
| 17:38.38 | RoarMan | Yea then what? play with yourself? |
| 17:38.39 | Tolkfan | I DONT WORK FOR THEM! |
| 17:38.41 | RoarMan | There's no local hosting. |
| 17:38.44 | Ashamed | becasuse then soemone else will publish it online |
| 17:38.46 | Ashamed | no local hosting |
| 17:38.51 | Ashamed | someone has to publish the map |
| 17:38.59 | RoarMan | Yea, Bnet 2.0 fails massively. |
| 17:39.02 | Tolkfan | multiplayer is evil. singleplayer is teh shit ;p |
| 17:39.05 | depthsofchaos | good maps need at least 100 mb tbh :o |
| 17:39.10 | RoarMan | +1^ |
| 17:39.15 | Ashamed | I like the whole server id for maps.. but its hard because its a server |
| 17:39.23 | Ashamed | so now they need to actually set dedicated space aside for the game |
| 17:39.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Megalon (~Megalon@d86-32-5-82.cust.tele2.at) |
| 17:39.29 | RoarMan | I thought Wc3 BNET was PERFECT |
| 17:39.39 | RoarMan | The only improvement in Sc2 is following friends ^^ |
| 17:39.48 | Ashamed | i like the map idea better so you can't be ripped off anymore |
| 17:40.06 | RoarMan | I didn't thnk that was that big of a problem. |
| 17:40.13 | RoarMan | Peeople did come out with map protection. |
| 17:40.20 | Ashamed | ... and they are doing the new money maps |
| 17:40.29 | RoarMan | Premium Maps? |
| 17:40.30 | Ashamed | thats the real reason they are doing it.. so they can moderate the maps |
| 17:40.33 | Ashamed | yeahh |
| 17:40.40 | RoarMan | YEa I think that's bullshit rofl. |
| 17:40.45 | RoarMan | Paying for maps, rofl. |
| 17:40.49 | RoarMan | Now I can feel like a console gamer. |
| 17:40.57 | xeSec | Team huddles are stupid |
| 17:40.58 | Ashamed | ... that is whats happening |
| 17:41.08 | Ashamed | people pay for it.. its our faults the consumer |
| 17:41.29 | RoarMan | But you can change things you don't like. |
| 17:41.45 | RoarMan | POWER TO THE PEOPLE! |
| 17:41.52 | Ashamed | It wont happen |
| 17:41.57 | RoarMan | You can change it. |
| 17:42.00 | naxxan | team huddles are stupid |
| 17:42.02 | Ashamed | there are going to be more people paying then not paying |
| 17:42.07 | RoarMan | People said it wouldn't happen with LAN and Chat Channels. |
| 17:42.15 | Ashamed | LAN is not coming |
| 17:42.16 | RoarMan | Guess what we got both ( Except LAN is exclusive to tournaments) |
| 17:42.22 | RoarMan | Yes LAN is coming to the competitive scene. |
| 17:42.28 | Ashamed | oh |
| 17:42.34 | Ashamed | well that is still no lan |
| 17:42.38 | naxxan | l-l-l-l-laaaan partyyyy |
| 17:42.43 | Ashamed | no |
| 17:42.45 | Ashamed | no lllll an party |
| 17:42.48 | Ashamed | only at comps |
| 17:42.52 | Ashamed | so it still does not count |
| 17:43.00 | Helral | @Sixen: you there? |
| 17:43.03 | RoarMan | It's better then NOTHING, it's still a step towards the right direction. |
| 17:43.05 | Ashamed | Sixen is never there |
| 17:43.09 | A1win | yeah because it's impossible to have a lan party where everyone has an internet connection :S |
| 17:43.10 | Ashamed | no its not |
| 17:43.16 | Ashamed | its a way for them to get us the shut up |
| 17:43.18 | naxxan | no its not |
| 17:43.18 | naxxan | lol |
| 17:43.23 | ProzaicMuze | Sixen just doesn't like you Ash |
| 17:43.27 | Ashamed | he does |
| 17:43.30 | Ashamed | we use to be buds |
| 17:43.31 | Ashamed | on sc |
| 17:43.36 | Ashamed | ... I even have him on my aim |
| 17:43.38 | Ashamed | so ha |
| 17:43.39 | Ashamed | :) |
| 17:43.41 | Helral | Sixen is ashamed of Ashamed ;p |
| 17:43.44 | naxxan | i like you prozaicmuze, wanna meet somewhere? |
| 17:43.52 | RoarMan | Say no. |
| 17:43.53 | Ashamed | :( |
| 17:43.55 | ProzaicMuze | LAN with a blizzard supervisor is not LAN. |
| 17:43.57 | RoarMan | Naxxan is a stalkre. |
| 17:44.01 | ProzaicMuze | Sorry, I already have a designated hooker. |
| 17:44.01 | RoarMan | Stalker* |
| 17:44.03 | Ashamed | yeah it doesn't count |
| 17:44.12 | RoarMan | LAN is LAN, atleast they tried to throw a bone. |
| 17:44.21 | Ashamed | .. they didnt roar |
| 17:44.31 | RoarMan | Ok fine so they didn't on LAN. |
| 17:44.32 | Ashamed | I would not consider that anything good lol |
| 17:44.33 | Ashamed | really |
| 17:44.34 | RoarMan | Chat Channels, don'no. |
| 17:44.37 | ProzaicMuze | If it breaks you can't fix it thus it's not LAN because we have no control over it. The supervisor does. |
| 17:44.52 | Ashamed | Yah lan = local area network |
| 17:45.00 | Ashamed | if you can't put it on your "LOCAL" network |
| 17:45.01 | Ashamed | then its not lan |
| 17:45.07 | RoarMan | We can be pessimistic and say that what we say or do as no impact or we can look at examples where people actually make a difference. |
| 17:45.13 | ctccromer | ahhah! got the following to work |
| 17:45.19 | ProzaicMuze | Roar, that's not entirely the case |
| 17:45.22 | Ashamed | good job |
| 17:45.27 | RoarMan | Then what is. |
| 17:45.29 | ProzaicMuze | massive petition for LAN the momemt they said it wasn't coming |
| 17:45.35 | RoarMan | My point isn't LAn. |
| 17:45.36 | ProzaicMuze | They are STILL saying NO WE WON'T YOU EBIL PIRATES! |
| 17:45.37 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ by payne007 |
| 17:45.42 | ProzaicMuze | Also with unit balancing |
| 17:45.45 | RoarMan | My point is the community got Blizzard to change things. |
| 17:45.49 | ProzaicMuze | WE have asked for the lurker A LOT |
| 17:45.57 | ProzaicMuze | They say it overlaps with banelings and we're stupid for wanting it back |
| 17:45.59 | ctccromer | i had to set up a trigger: Every 0.5 seconds / Dummy is alive = true / order Dummy to ( move (Player Unit)) (it was an order targetting unit) |
| 17:46.13 | RoarMan | Lurkers don't overlap banelings though, that's just Blizzard going " No fuck you." |
| 17:46.30 | ProzaicMuze | "making a difference" isn't the current problem, it's Blizzard thinking they understand the game better than we do. |
| 17:46.36 | Ashamed | i know lurkers = a bad ass unit |
| 17:46.40 | ProzaicMuze | Which is funny because they onyl make it, they don't then play 24/7 like we do. |
| 17:46.51 | xeSec | Ashamed |
| 17:46.54 | Ashamed | and besides.. sc2 balance sucked |
| 17:46.55 | RoarMan | Yes but Blizzard does deserve SOME say in the matter. |
| 17:46.57 | RoarMan | They are making the game :P |
| 17:47.00 | xeSec | I lost teh terrain |
| 17:47.02 | RoarMan | Yea Sc2 balance is botched. |
| 17:47.05 | Ashamed | of course you did |
| 17:47.07 | RoarMan | The Sc2 meta game is a joke. |
| 17:47.07 | Ashamed | you fucktard |
| 17:47.12 | Ashamed | why didn't you give it to me! |
| 17:47.17 | ProzaicMuze | Roar, they've taken that and gone to ALL the say |
| 17:47.19 | Ashamed | :( |
| 17:47.28 | xeSec | I didn't know my comp was going to get re-imaged |
| 17:47.28 | Ashamed | reimaged to the memory gods |
| 17:47.37 | Ashamed | What ever |
| 17:47.39 | Ashamed | just start over |
| 17:47.40 | xeSec | I make new one |
| 17:47.46 | RoarMan | Prozaic I'm taking it you won't buy Sc2? |
| 17:47.53 | ProzaicMuze | I definitely will for UMS |
| 17:47.58 | RoarMan | Lol wtf. |
| 17:48.06 | RoarMan | You seem very displeased with Sc2, yet you'll still get it? |
| 17:48.06 | ProzaicMuze | If a game lets us change it to fix what's wrong, it's worth buying |
| 17:48.11 | ProzaicMuze | Don't get me wrong |
| 17:48.15 | RoarMan | True enough, UMS is very entertaining. |
| 17:48.15 | Ashamed | yeah i dont like sc2 rts at all :( |
| 17:48.16 | ProzaicMuze | Single player and UMS are going to be amazing |
| 17:48.21 | RoarMan | Hopefully. |
| 17:48.23 | ProzaicMuze | Multiplyer and BNet blows |
| 17:48.26 | RoarMan | I don't want Live Action cut scenes D: |
| 17:48.27 | Ashamed | i feel like they tried to change stuff.. but everything is still very similer |
| 17:48.39 | RoarMan | Sc2 feels like a watered down Sc1. |
| 17:48.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster DarkPrince (~electra@adsl-76-241-65-146.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:48.44 | RoarMan | No unit really stands out from one another. |
| 17:48.49 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 17:48.49 | Ashamed | and they talked about how this game took 6 years to balance.. but I am just like from what.. its the same game as sc2 |
| 17:48.50 | RoarMan | Macro is a joke. |
| 17:48.52 | Ashamed | as sc* |
| 17:49.04 | RoarMan | Lol yea Ashamed +1 |
| 17:49.09 | ctccromer | alrightm now how do i stop my units from running away by themselves when they are attacked? i only want them to move with i order it via triggers |
| 17:49.10 | ProzaicMuze | you mean rockit black guy isn't your go to man for every unit? Even air because you can build enough to rape their base before it matters? |
| 17:49.10 | Ashamed | it really is |
| 17:49.17 | Ashamed | they didn't change that much |
| 17:49.34 | xeSec | BURRT |
| 17:49.39 | RoarMan | They stripped the flavour from it and taped in C&C units. |
| 17:49.40 | RoarMan | DONNO. |
| 17:49.44 | Ashamed | i can't believe they didnt add a new race or anything |
| 17:49.49 | Ashamed | even warcraft 3 added new races |
| 17:50.03 | RoarMan | I'm not complaining about a new race (3 races are a lot easier to balance then 4 compeitively). |
| 17:50.05 | Ashamed | they added what 20 new units |
| 17:50.06 | RoarMan | But Sc2 is just BORING. |
| 17:50.09 | Ashamed | and they are calling it an upgrade |
| 17:50.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Funkeh` (~funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 17:50.20 | nicoli_s | they did more then just add units |
| 17:50.30 | nicoli_s | i mean is the amazing things mappers have done not proof of that? |
| 17:50.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster TeddyFace (~minivan2k@ppp-71-140-22-228.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 17:50.31 | Ashamed | like what? |
| 17:50.33 | RoarMan | Well sc2 isn't THAT bad, but not nearly as good as sc1. |
| 17:50.39 | ProzaicMuze | lol, we all know UMS is the bomb |
| 17:50.43 | depthsofchaos | sc2 gets boring fast true, custom maps rule :p |
| 17:50.44 | ProzaicMuze | but that's because we're the bomb, not Blizzard |
| 17:50.48 | Ashamed | ums isamazing |
| 17:50.50 | ProzaicMuze | we're fixing what they got wrong |
| 17:50.52 | Ashamed | i am not talking about UMS |
| 17:50.54 | Ashamed | just RTS |
| 17:50.59 | RoarMan | USER map settings =D |
| 17:51.12 | depthsofchaos | its not ums anymore |
| 17:51.18 | RoarMan | I say there should be a mod that brings back old beta units, that'd be cool ^^ |
| 17:51.29 | RoarMan | Like when Pheonixes could blow shit up with Overload. |
| 17:51.34 | RoarMan | And when Lurkers were still in. |
| 17:51.42 | Tolkfan | SC2 is so horrible that people like Day9 have stopped playing SC1 and switched to SC2... wait... |
| 17:51.47 | depthsofchaos | they removed those for a reason :p |
| 17:51.59 | RoarMan | Yea for C&C units. |
| 17:52.10 | RoarMan | GET THE C&C OUT OF MAH STARCRAFT!! |
| 17:52.21 | depthsofchaos | tolkfan sc1 is a 10 yera old game |
| 17:52.25 | depthsofchaos | thats why he switched lol |
| 17:52.29 | Ashamed | yeah i wont play the rts that much |
| 17:52.32 | Furyhunter | Lurkers were in Alpha weren't they? |
| 17:52.36 | Ashamed | i will beat the campain and make maps |
| 17:52.36 | RoarMan | Yea they were. |
| 17:52.39 | Ashamed | and play custom maps |
| 17:52.42 | Furyhunter | Figures. |
| 17:52.42 | RoarMan | Lurkers were removed right before public beta. |
| 17:52.56 | RoarMan | I was like "Now how do I build a Lurker Den... No......." |
| 17:53.05 | Ashamed | thats stupid |
| 17:53.06 | depthsofchaos | i will use cheatcodes for single player to see the anymations :p |
| 17:53.08 | Furyhunter | By that, I assume a few of you were in alpha, lol |
| 17:53.09 | Ashamed | why didn't they try to balance them |
| 17:53.22 | ProzaicMuze | because they decided they wanted them ONLY in the singleplayer |
| 17:53.26 | RoarMan | Think about it, all the flavour from Starcraft is gone. |
| 17:53.29 | ProzaicMuze | something about "too many units" in the multiplayer |
| 17:53.39 | Tolkfan | so, you guys would just like SC1 but with graphics from SC2, right? |
| 17:53.39 | depthsofchaos | ololo |
| 17:53.46 | ProzaicMuze | which is bizarre because people are complaining about how stale Zerg is and certain mirror match ups |
| 17:53.46 | Furyhunter | well now Zerg doesn't have ENOUGH units |
| 17:53.47 | depthsofchaos | yes |
| 17:53.48 | RoarMan | In Starcraft each race had a distinctive play style, and a set of unique units that came together to create an awesome force. |
| 17:53.50 | Ashamed | its pretty much the same |
| 17:53.55 | RoarMan | In Sc2 everyone just has unis that kill each other. |
| 17:54.24 | RoarMan | Wooosh. |
| 17:54.28 | Furyhunter | I think they didn't like that it wasn't immediately obvious what the effectiveness of unit abilities were. |
| 17:54.40 | RoarMan | Yea FuryHunter I think you're right. |
| 17:54.41 | ProzaicMuze | @Tolkfan definitely not. I want the same racial identity with further specialization. Not "oh zerg make tons of units so everyone else does too" or "we need more money in the game so here, terran gets x4 gathering rate" |
| 17:54.55 | Furyhunter | Because StarCraft with players who don't understand unit weaknesses/strengths |
| 17:54.57 | RoarMan | Now the unis all have "distinct" roles, but it makes them bland. |
| 17:54.58 | Furyhunter | Is still really, really stale |
| 17:55.08 | RoarMan | And omfg do I hate Damage Bonus. |
| 17:55.18 | RoarMan | "Let's make Marauders rape EVERYTHING." |
| 17:55.23 | ProzaicMuze | i like it for UMS, but they need to tweak it and not make some units do double damage |
| 17:55.33 | Ashamed | yah they made this one easier to make weaker units rape |
| 17:55.57 | RoarMan | When they added "microing" to the Pheonix I was like "LOL." |
| 17:56.30 | depthsofchaos | hehe and it looks stupid too |
| 17:56.42 | RoarMan | Yea lol it looks so silleh. |
| 17:56.54 | depthsofchaos | just like the mommaship |
| 17:56.56 | RoarMan | But this is making me sad D: |
| 17:57.22 | ProzaicMuze | Complete sidebar, but omfg i've masted Site Operations! Uber units ftw! |
| 17:57.30 | RoarMan | Whoo! |
| 17:57.36 | ProzaicMuze | mastered* |
| 17:57.44 | ProzaicMuze | tutorial coming in the next 24-48hrs |
| 17:57.58 | RoarMan | =D |
| 17:58.02 | RoarMan | Lookin' forward to it. |
| 17:58.04 | ProzaicMuze | personally I think units that fly backwards and attack is just what this game needs |
| 17:58.10 | ProzaicMuze | More asian drivers! |
| 17:58.12 | ProzaicMuze | <.< |
| 17:58.13 | ProzaicMuze | >.> |
| 17:58.13 | RoarMan | Lol. |
| 17:58.54 | Ashamed | i must say guys.. this chat room makes my day a bit brighter |
| 17:59.04 | Ashamed | at least i can talk about my favorite game of all times :) |
| 17:59.13 | RoarMan | Yea =D |
| 17:59.23 | Ashamed | it makes work go by a lil faster actually |
| 17:59.24 | RoarMan | Even if it's not about mapping, it is the mapster community |
| 17:59.33 | RoarMan | Ashamed your at work? |
| 17:59.42 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 17:59.44 | depthsofchaos | you know what makes work go by rly fast? |
| 17:59.44 | nicoli_s | im at work!\ |
| 17:59.46 | RoarMan | :D |
| 17:59.49 | depthsofchaos | cutting your wrist |
| 17:59.50 | RoarMan | Yea IRC at work is bomb. |
| 17:59.54 | Ashamed | nicoli where do you work? |
| 18:00.09 | nicoli_s | Ashamed:for curse\ |
| 18:00.13 | nicoli_s | who owns sc2mapster |
| 18:00.14 | Ashamed | oh |
| 18:00.17 | Ashamed | yeah i know |
| 18:00.23 | Ashamed | I dont get to have that much fun |
| 18:00.23 | nicoli_s | hence the @ |
| 18:00.25 | Ashamed | I just work at IBM |
| 18:00.34 | nicoli_s | but do you get paid to irc? |
| 18:00.42 | Ashamed | not to "irc" |
| 18:00.44 | Ashamed | but i can irc |
| 18:00.44 | Ashamed | yes |
| 18:00.50 | nicoli_s | also, screenshot or it didnt happen :P |
| 18:00.53 | Ashamed | I get payed to support IBM shit |
| 18:01.03 | Ashamed | and tell companies how to get their IBM network working again |
| 18:01.11 | Ashamed | you don't believe meh |
| 18:01.15 | Ashamed | i can get you a SS |
| 18:01.15 | Ashamed | lol |
| 18:01.19 | nicoli_s | im just kidding man |
| 18:01.20 | Ashamed | give me a second |
| 18:01.32 | Ashamed | No its cool |
| 18:01.33 | Ashamed | I will go get it |
| 18:01.42 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 18:01.57 | Ashamed | best buy is one of the companies i support |
| 18:02.02 | Ashamed | but i support the company end |
| 18:02.05 | Ashamed | not the consumers |
| 18:02.09 | Ashamed | like their network and stuff |
| 18:02.16 | Ashamed | I have a citrix client and i remote onto their shit |
| 18:03.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster ctccromer (446aa0b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.106.160.184) |
| 18:03.59 | ctccromer | is there a WORKING doodad of birds in the editor? all the ones i see are the neon arrow things.. |
| 18:04.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bifuu (~Bifuu@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 18:04.16 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Bifuu] by ChanServ |
| 18:04.22 | Bifuu | o hai |
| 18:04.24 | Ashamed | http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8274/ssbb.png ( That is Best buys network ) |
| 18:04.35 | Ashamed | The IE goes to their INTRANET |
| 18:04.40 | ctccromer | evenin bifuu |
| 18:04.41 | naxxan | make some map stuff |
| 18:04.44 | naxxan | CHAD!! |
| 18:04.46 | Ashamed | YOU |
| 18:04.46 | naxxan | REMEMBER |
| 18:04.54 | naxxan | THE MAP FAG DODGE?! |
| 18:04.54 | Ashamed | what? |
| 18:04.55 | naxxan | SEX DODGE?! |
| 18:04.59 | Bifuu | i want to live on PCI Island |
| 18:05.01 | naxxan | or somethin.. |
| 18:05.02 | Ashamed | no rapist |
| 18:05.04 | Ashamed | dodge the rapiest |
| 18:05.06 | naxxan | yeaaaah |
| 18:05.07 | Ashamed | LOL |
| 18:05.10 | Ashamed | I loved tha tmap |
| 18:05.14 | nicoli_s | lol thats awesome ashamed |
| 18:05.19 | depthsofchaos | WTF you useing internet explorer :O |
| 18:05.23 | depthsofchaos | be ashamed |
| 18:05.24 | Ashamed | i have to |
| 18:05.25 | RoarMan | D: |
| 18:05.25 | Ashamed | for citrix |
| 18:05.29 | naxxan | make it but make it 3D lol |
| 18:05.29 | Ashamed | this is in mozilla |
| 18:05.31 | RoarMan | BE ASHAMEDDDDDD. |
| 18:05.31 | ctccromer | Bifuu: the auto-select thing worked easier than i thought: attatch a region and trigger a selection in the region. no idea how to add tabbing but i'm not worries about it for now. it's a small thing i can add later |
| 18:05.37 | Ashamed | I AM IN MOZILLA |
| 18:05.39 | Ashamed | For irc |
| 18:05.47 | Ashamed | I have 2 monitors |
| 18:05.48 | Ashamed | :) |
| 18:05.52 | Bifuu | ctccromer: nice to see you got the basics working though |
| 18:06.02 | Bifuu | IE Tab for Firefox? |
| 18:06.08 | naxxan | im usin google chrome |
| 18:06.08 | Ashamed | it does not work good |
| 18:06.09 | xeSec | IE |
| 18:06.10 | Bifuu | better yet, IE Tab for Chrome |
| 18:06.10 | xeSec | IE |
| 18:06.12 | naxxan | and IE |
| 18:06.17 | Ashamed | unfortnaly we have programs that just work in IE |
| 18:06.19 | Ashamed | :( |
| 18:06.25 | xeSec | IE |
| 18:06.28 | Ashamed | IE |
| 18:06.30 | naxxan | stupid maximo ...ima burn maximo to the ground |
| 18:06.30 | Bifuu | i applied to Best Buy |
| 18:06.31 | ctccromer | Bifuu: yup. works fine ^^ |
| 18:06.41 | xeSec | I applied IE |
| 18:06.41 | Ashamed | .. i am best buys help desk |
| 18:06.42 | Bifuu | they told me to fuck off |
| 18:06.46 | ctccromer | does noone know about the bird doodads? =/ |
| 18:06.50 | Ashamed | I tell them to fuck off all the time |
| 18:06.57 | naxxan | i dont know about doodads |
| 18:06.57 | Ashamed | I am geek squads support |
| 18:06.59 | Ashamed | when their shit goes down they call me |
| 18:07.01 | naxxan | i know about doomamma |
| 18:07.22 | xeSec | what do you need to know about the bird doodads? |
| 18:07.22 | Ashamed | Naxxan works with me |
| 18:07.26 | ProzaicMuze | what you mean ctc? |
| 18:07.28 | Ashamed | he is a dick of war |
| 18:07.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Alpha_vst (~Alpha_vst@c-24-5-9-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:07.31 | RoarMan | Lol wtf. |
| 18:07.33 | RoarMan | Dick of war. |
| 18:07.35 | Ashamed | DOW |
| 18:07.38 | ctccromer | noone of them seem to be ACTUAL BIRDS |
| 18:07.42 | ctccromer | theyre all neon arrow things |
| 18:07.44 | RoarMan | Yea. |
| 18:07.48 | RoarMan | They should spawn burds CTC |
| 18:07.51 | RoarMan | Birds* |
| 18:07.51 | naxxan | im on the dicks of war account, wanna make somethin of it? |
| 18:07.52 | xeSec | you have to load the map |
| 18:07.56 | ProzaicMuze | yeah, they make birds that fly around the area. Like weather |
| 18:08.01 | xeSec | lol |
| 18:08.02 | ctccromer | oh, so if i load the map, theyll be bords then? |
| 18:08.05 | xeSec | yes |
| 18:08.07 | ctccromer | OH okay xD |
| 18:08.08 | Ashamed | oh and its break time |
| 18:08.09 | xeSec | where the arrow is pointing |
| 18:08.09 | Ashamed | brb |
| 18:08.11 | RoarMan | Yes dones of bords, burds and birds. |
| 18:08.14 | xeSec | they go in like a circles i think |
| 18:08.22 | ctccromer | i saw a video of that arrow in the actual map so assumed it was like how some doodads are spheres |
| 18:08.32 | ctccromer | thank yall |
| 18:08.35 | xeSec | yeah, i know what ya mean |
| 18:08.35 | RoarMan | Npdog. |
| 18:08.38 | RoarMan | <3 you nigga. |
| 18:08.38 | xeSec | NOP |
| 18:08.39 | ctccromer | minimized to work again, then ^^ |
| 18:08.40 | depthsofchaos | i only want sc2 released for more models :p |
| 18:08.43 | naxxan | hey man, if i can help you i will. if i wont ill talk nonsense |
| 18:08.53 | naxxan | make your own models |
| 18:09.03 | depthsofchaos | i wont cause im lazy |
| 18:09.05 | naxxan | some guy uploaded all models from wc3 i heard :) |
| 18:09.19 | naxxan | dude yeah, im too lazy and impatient to make maps. i just wanna pwn face |
| 18:09.45 | depthsofchaos | while i make 10 models i make 1 map |
| 18:09.51 | naxxan | i got ranked 87th in the practice league |
| 18:09.51 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 18:10.04 | Alpha_vst | ctccromer press v and it will show the birds |
| 18:10.11 | Bifuu | vv |
| 18:10.11 | Bifuu | v |
| 18:10.11 | Bifuu | v |
| 18:10.14 | Bifuu | didnt work |
| 18:10.16 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 18:10.32 | xeSec | vvvv |
| 18:10.43 | Tolkfan | wow, you can make your own custom textures within the data editor... I just took the "cracks" from Char Lava Cracks and mixed them with marsara concrete, and got funky looking cracked concrete :D |
| 18:10.59 | Tolkfan | ugh... is that something utterly obvious and did I just make an idiot of myself? :P |
| 18:11.16 | xeSec | yes |
| 18:11.20 | depthsofchaos | you just made a texture object no?:o |
| 18:11.26 | naxxan | yes |
| 18:11.28 | Tolkfan | ugh, yeah :D |
| 18:11.42 | naxxan | im not an editor and i know that you can change textures to whatever you tell it to change to |
| 18:11.48 | naxxan | its all up to what you tell it what to do |
| 18:11.58 | ctccromer | alpha_vst: awesome :) that also stops the thing i hate, where the terrain stretches to the cliffs |
| 18:13.23 | ctccromer | so, how do i trigger.. when dialog item is used / used dialog item = (my variable) / the player clicks a unit, the unit dies, and spawn birds? |
| 18:14.05 | naxxan | change how the unit dies to make it spawn birds instead of blood |
| 18:14.08 | ctccromer | when my dialogs (menu's) are open, it pauses all units, so theyll be paused when you click |
| 18:14.36 | ctccromer | modify unit property: death? |
| 18:14.50 | naxxan | oh. ill be honest man i really have no idea most of what is talked about here. but i can think sometimes and do something helpful occassionally :P |
| 18:15.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d556ec2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.85.110.194) |
| 18:15.06 | ctccromer | xD k ill look |
| 18:15.29 | naxxan | ashamed likes penis |
| 18:15.54 | ctccromer | yeah, death isnt an option for Set nit Propety :( |
| 18:15.56 | ctccromer | Unit* |
| 18:16.16 | Alpha_vst | kill unit |
| 18:16.29 | ctccromer | wierd.. if i search "death" one of the 3 results is Set nit Property |
| 18:16.43 | naxxan | lol. sorry man i tried to help |
| 18:16.45 | Furyhunter | teleport, kill off screen, teleport back? |
| 18:17.09 | naxxan | if unit has <1 hp then birds spawn |
| 18:17.10 | ctccromer | and spawn birds at point (location of unit)? |
| 18:17.14 | ctccromer | no no naxxan |
| 18:17.17 | ctccromer | this isnt allt he time |
| 18:17.26 | ctccromer | just when a dialog button is clicked |
| 18:17.30 | naxxan | oh |
| 18:17.35 | depthsofchaos | damage fatal behaviour response?:o |
| 18:17.56 | ctccromer | (its a magic ability. turn the unit into birds that fly away harmlessly) |
| 18:18.12 | depthsofchaos | oh then just do a morhp? |
| 18:18.21 | ctccromer | ahh duh why didnt i think of that |
| 18:19.11 | ctccromer | how do you morph a unit via a trigger? |
| 18:19.25 | naxxan | when cast on target unit, kill it, have it swap places with nearest birds on map |
| 18:19.53 | naxxan | nah that wold be shabby |
| 18:20.04 | Ashamed | you can actually do morph |
| 18:20.09 | Ashamed | and turn the unit into the bird |
| 18:20.14 | ctccromer | thatd be fine |
| 18:20.21 | Ashamed | you also wouldn't need to use triggers at all |
| 18:20.23 | Ashamed | that should work |
| 18:20.24 | ctccromer | but i dont see an Action for morph |
| 18:20.28 | naxxan | i was about to say polymorph |
| 18:20.33 | Ashamed | look at the changling?? |
| 18:20.34 | ctccromer | lol |
| 18:20.36 | naxxan | theres one on wc3... see if you can figure out the code. |
| 18:21.01 | Ashamed | or look at the archon move |
| 18:21.05 | Ashamed | when the combine |
| 18:21.14 | naxxan | changeling doesnt do that unless you make it do that.. changeling is from the overseer or something and it changes into a level 1 attack unit of the first hostile race it comes into contact with.. i think |
| 18:21.22 | ctccromer | ORDER AN ABILITY |
| 18:21.24 | ctccromer | got it |
| 18:21.26 | Ashamed | I dont know alot with the editor.. but when I am trying to figure something out i will just look at something sililer |
| 18:21.37 | Ashamed | but you dont need to order an ability |
| 18:21.42 | ctccromer | ill order (selected unit) to Morph into Birds |
| 18:21.44 | Ashamed | you can make an ability just able to do it |
| 18:21.51 | ctccromer | yeah |
| 18:21.55 | ctccromer | make the ability Morph into Birds |
| 18:22.01 | ctccromer | and when the dialog item is used |
| 18:22.01 | naxxan | instead of killing |
| 18:22.02 | Ashamed | with no triggers |
| 18:22.05 | Ashamed | you can make it all data |
| 18:22.17 | ctccromer | Ashamed: how, if it's only when a dialog item is clicked? |
| 18:22.20 | Ashamed | unless you need it trigger |
| 18:22.42 | Ashamed | how do you activate it exactly? |
| 18:23.07 | ctccromer | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/somnium/files/8-somnium-v0-2-3/ |
| 18:23.12 | ctccromer | open that in-game real quick |
| 18:23.17 | naxxan | watch out ashamed, PEDOBEAR BEHIND U |
| 18:23.21 | ctccromer | hit the middle of the 3 buttons on the side (hold down shift) |
| 18:23.24 | Ashamed | no one was |
| 18:23.28 | ctccromer | magic > doves |
| 18:23.30 | ctccromer | actually |
| 18:23.33 | ctccromer | no hold on |
| 18:23.38 | ctccromer | youd have to talk to the drawing first |
| 18:23.40 | Ashamed | .. but you can make it easier |
| 18:23.42 | ctccromer | nvm, ignore thatlink |
| 18:23.48 | Ashamed | you can make it just so when you hit a spell |
| 18:23.51 | Ashamed | and select a unit |
| 18:23.59 | naxxan | i was about to say that was a lot of steps. |
| 18:24.02 | naxxan | for a spell |
| 18:24.11 | Ashamed | just like any spell in the game |
| 18:24.20 | ctccromer | the UI is hidden |
| 18:24.22 | naxxan | i think he wants to make it like a side bar |
| 18:24.24 | Ashamed | oh |
| 18:24.30 | Ashamed | well you need to make a UI then |
| 18:24.32 | ctccromer | this isnt an sc2 game |
| 18:24.35 | ctccromer | it's a game designed for DS |
| 18:24.35 | Ashamed | because people wont play a map that is too hard |
| 18:24.37 | naxxan | oh. |
| 18:24.45 | Ashamed | if it takes more then its worth.. people are just going to say fuck it |
| 18:24.49 | ctccromer | this isnt FOR people in sc2 |
| 18:24.57 | Ashamed | ... then what is it for? |
| 18:25.05 | ctccromer | to pitch the game to people |
| 18:25.10 | ctccromer | a DS game, not an SC2 game |
| 18:25.13 | Ashamed | what game? |
| 18:25.22 | naxxan | oh you mean make a game from DS to sc2? |
| 18:25.22 | ctccromer | this game i'm trying to make a demo of |
| 18:25.26 | ctccromer | ni |
| 18:25.27 | ctccromer | no* |
| 18:25.30 | ctccromer | it's a DS game |
| 18:25.35 | naxxan | ok |
| 18:25.36 | ctccromer | but the only way i can make a demo is with GE |
| 18:25.51 | ctccromer | there are 0 DS engines open to the public |
| 18:25.55 | ctccromer | and none of my friends in game companies have one |
| 18:26.03 | ctccromer | that they could give me without getting fired |
| 18:26.04 | naxxan | well ds to me is a little gameboy thing and ge is general eletric. so ill shh now :) |
| 18:26.28 | ctccromer | but thats why it needs to be in the menu thing |
| 18:26.32 | ctccromer | there will be shortcuts ont he DS |
| 18:26.42 | ctccromer | but this is just a demo, so i'm not adding something that small |
| 18:26.56 | ctccromer | but ANYWAYS..... brb, gonna try something |
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| 18:30.00 | naxxan | i have no idea what that dude wanted. |
| 18:30.05 | Ashamed | me neither lol |
| 18:30.14 | naxxan | i thought he just wanted a sc2 spell that changed a unit into birds |
| 18:30.18 | naxxan | which in turn killed the unit |
| 18:30.19 | ctccromer | sorry >.< |
| 18:30.23 | Ashamed | He was trying to make it like a DS game i think |
| 18:30.25 | ctccromer | nope, not sc2 |
| 18:30.28 | Ashamed | so click the screen |
| 18:30.37 | Ashamed | oh its not sc2 at all? |
| 18:30.52 | ctccromer | it is technically |
| 18:30.57 | ctccromer | but only because im using GE |
| 18:31.03 | ctccromer | and too lazy to make my own models |
| 18:31.10 | naxxan | ooh ge.. duh galaxy edit im a genius! woo |
| 18:31.20 | ctccromer | so for example my main character is a marine |
| 18:31.25 | depthsofchaos | youre making little sense :p |
| 18:31.28 | ctccromer | but besides stuff like that, nope not sc2 |
| 18:31.41 | naxxan | ... it runs on the game starcraft 2 though |
| 18:31.52 | naxxan | youre trying to make a map on starcraft 2 that is just like your game on your nintendo ds? |
| 18:32.04 | ctccromer | yes |
| 18:32.09 | Ashamed | ... but why |
| 18:32.14 | depthsofchaos | then youre making a custom map for sc2 |
| 18:32.14 | Ashamed | sc2 gui can be better |
| 18:32.29 | ctccromer | because there is no DS engine i can use |
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| 18:32.45 | Ashamed | whate do you mean engine?? Like a emulator? |
| 18:32.59 | Ashamed | an emulator* |
| 18:33.04 | ProzaicMuze | hrm, anyone got an idea what Site Operation patch might mean? There are so many site operations :S |
| 18:33.07 | ctccromer | there are no means of making it for an actual DS cartridge |
| 18:33.08 | Ashamed | or like a graphics engine?? or like the screen engine |
| 18:33.18 | naxxan | why would you want to make it into a ds game? |
| 18:33.26 | naxxan | sc2 is ten times better than nintendo ds |
| 18:33.28 | Ashamed | ... you can't actually play it like a DS |
| 18:33.31 | ctccromer | because it is a DS game!!!.. |
| 18:33.40 | naxxan | SO!! make a map on sc2 of the DS game |
| 18:33.46 | naxxan | then you can make it exactly how you want it and envision it |
| 18:33.47 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 18:33.50 | ctccromer | thats what im doing naxxan.. |
| 18:33.52 | Ashamed | that is what he is doing |
| 18:33.58 | Ashamed | but dont do it like touching the screen |
| 18:34.01 | Ashamed | people wont like that |
| 18:34.12 | ctccromer | i dont care, this isnt for people to play and enjoy |
| 18:34.16 | Ashamed | if its too hard to do stuff people wont do it |
| 18:34.21 | Ashamed | ... It isn't! |
| 18:34.23 | ctccromer | its so i can show someone "and on the DS this would be like this" |
| 18:34.27 | depthsofchaos | this is for parrots and chipmunks |
| 18:34.42 | Alpha_vst | and popcorn |
| 18:34.54 | ctccromer | ANYWAY!... anyone know how to set up a Morph Ability? |
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| 18:34.56 | naxxan | im just lost. |
| 18:35.26 | Ashamed | ctccromer i am telling you look at the changeling / archon morph skill.. You will see what you need to see |
| 18:35.28 | naxxan | two dark templars or two high templars morph into an archon. try ripping your morph off of that and edit it to a spell instead |
| 18:35.41 | ctccromer | ashamed: i am, but i'm totally lost.. |
| 18:35.51 | ctccromer | naxxan: thats a MERGE not Morph |
| 18:35.51 | Ashamed | yeah i know data editor is super confusing |
| 18:35.57 | Ashamed | but it will work |
| 18:36.03 | Ashamed | you can take the merge part out of the skill |
| 18:36.10 | ctccromer | besides, is the changeling ability limited to changelings? |
| 18:36.10 | Ashamed | and then make it create another unit |
| 18:36.17 | depthsofchaos | just use the vikings morph so easy :o |
| 18:36.22 | Ashamed | that too |
| 18:36.31 | ctccromer | hm, ill check that out |
| 18:36.48 | naxxan | there really isnt a limit on any abilities from what i have heard -.- just a matter of making your desired affect work |
| 18:37.05 | depthsofchaos | there is :o |
| 18:37.37 | naxxan | example |
| 18:37.38 | naxxan | ? |
| 18:37.39 | depthsofchaos | a lot of limits like movers and collision unfortunately |
| 18:37.45 | naxxan | oh |
| 18:37.55 | depthsofchaos | and creation of different objects |
| 18:37.57 | naxxan | i wasnt meaning.. the fully finished product :) |
| 18:38.15 | PregomyEgo | chad look at my sametime |
| 18:38.18 | naxxan | i mean just the spell itself, as in if you tested it in space or an open area with nothing blocking it |
| 18:38.34 | Ashamed | try this trigger ctccromer set unit variation |
| 18:38.39 | Ashamed | it looks like you can put a model on it |
| 18:38.40 | PregomyEgo | chad |
| 18:38.44 | Ashamed | I am not 100 percent sure how it works |
| 18:38.45 | PregomyEgo | look at my sametime |
| 18:38.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster Barter (~Bart@189.4.113.213) |
| 18:39.22 | Bifuu | im so playing Starfox 64 right now |
| 18:39.32 | naxxan | yadabadabada! |
| 18:39.43 | naxxan | the voices on that game are funny to me. |
| 18:39.59 | Ashamed | ctcc did you see my advise? |
| 18:40.02 | Tolkfan | does anyone know if the "Optimize Saving" option in the editor is retroactive? i.e. if I used the "faster saves" for most of the time, then i switched to "smaller files", will the size be the same as if I used "smaller files" all the time? |
| 18:40.26 | ctccromer | ashamed: yeah, trying it now |
| 18:40.35 | Ashamed | tell me how it works |
| 18:41.02 | Ashamed | i dunno if its going to work >< |
| 18:42.18 | naxxan | we can dance if we want to... we can leave your friends behind... cuz your friends dont dance and if they dont dance well their no friends of mine. |
| 18:42.38 | naxxan | ashamed was it you that always said firneds? or was that the gogettea kid |
| 18:42.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (~daviddavi@ip98-164-199-113.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 18:42.47 | naxxan | <3 |
| 18:42.50 | ctccromer | ashamed: it turned em into birds, but they still attack me, turn violently, and i hve to shoot them D |
| 18:42.53 | ctccromer | xD* |
| 18:43.05 | RedWraith | had and idea for a map |
| 18:43.05 | ctccromer | changed the model but nothing else |
| 18:43.08 | naxxan | remove their attack after they change |
| 18:43.10 | RedWraith | think it'll hit big if I make it |
| 18:43.29 | ctccromer | i need to turn them into the doodads =/ |
| 18:43.33 | Ashamed | lol |
| 18:43.39 | RedWraith | hero line war -> where there are two heroes confined to a small space, players buy waves of units, heroes kill them, gain exp, etc. When the other player's hero dies, you win. :P |
| 18:43.41 | Ashamed | it has the doodad |
| 18:43.41 | naxxan | if they turn into doodads arent they part of the map? |
| 18:43.41 | Ashamed | on it |
| 18:43.57 | ctccromer | watcha mean naxxan? |
| 18:44.05 | Ashamed | naxxan dont know shit |
| 18:44.10 | naxxan | NPC...err NPD? non playable doodad! |
| 18:44.11 | Ashamed | right now what its doing is converting just the model |
| 18:44.12 | Ashamed | thats the problem |
| 18:44.13 | ProzaicMuze | http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2948/tehrhino.jpg |
| 18:44.20 | Ashamed | so the units info is staying the same |
| 18:44.23 | ctccromer | yeah |
| 18:44.32 | ctccromer | i need it to act like the doodads |
| 18:44.36 | Ashamed | you might have to make a vegitble unit that flys |
| 18:44.38 | ctccromer | just fly around and look pretty |
| 18:44.42 | naxxan | i know shit ashamed, for instance you like penis :) but ive already stated many times that i dont understand most of everything that are real questions here. |
| 18:44.44 | Ashamed | try to make ti the doodan |
| 18:44.54 | ctccromer | how? |
| 18:44.55 | ProzaicMuze | oh, oops |
| 18:45.05 | Ashamed | or this |
| 18:45.06 | Ashamed | one second |
| 18:45.32 | ProzaicMuze | Check this image for me: http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2948/tehrhino.jpg is it too bright/dark or just fine? |
| 18:45.46 | ctccromer | btw, let it be known im not COMPLETELY helpless xD i did almost the whole Dummy feature by myself |
| 18:45.58 | ProzaicMuze | ctc, you are totally helpless |
| 18:46.01 | naxxan | looks fine to me, it also depends on what the environment itll be in. |
| 18:46.02 | ctccromer | prozaicmuze: a taaaad too dark to see the unit's details |
| 18:46.20 | ProzaicMuze | It's more for demonstration |
| 18:46.27 | RoarMan | Infested Viking? |
| 18:46.28 | ProzaicMuze | that's one of the units the attachment tutorial will make |
| 18:46.30 | ctccromer | then its fine |
| 18:46.47 | ProzaicMuze | It's a viking with a spike on it's head (Horn, hence rhino) |
| 18:47.04 | naxxan | a side angle shot would be easier to tell |
| 18:47.07 | ProzaicMuze | And then two auto-turrets with beams that actually originate from them |
| 18:47.13 | Ashamed | user the remove weapon trigger |
| 18:47.15 | Ashamed | to take the weapon away |
| 18:47.16 | naxxan | the front view makes it harder to see the horn (although i do see it) |
| 18:47.23 | Sixen | I'm here. |
| 18:47.29 | Ashamed | sixen is here! |
| 18:47.33 | ProzaicMuze | Why am I removing the weapon ash? |
| 18:47.35 | Sixen | I just... Have family out here visiting from the other coast. |
| 18:47.39 | naxxan | ashamed was talkin to ctc |
| 18:47.40 | Ashamed | not you |
| 18:47.42 | ProzaicMuze | ah, mmk |
| 18:47.47 | naxxan | but i was talkin to you :D |
| 18:47.48 | ctccromer | ashamed: but then itll still follow me and be selectable as a unit =/ |
| 18:47.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Gwypaas (~I@78-69-139-83-no129.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 18:47.52 | ProzaicMuze | well here, download the map and go shoot something with it |
| 18:47.57 | ProzaicMuze | let me know if it's buggy for you at all |
| 18:47.58 | Ashamed | you can make it unselectable |
| 18:48.00 | naxxan | it is fine imo, but more noticable from the side. |
| 18:48.00 | Ashamed | with select state |
| 18:48.20 | Ashamed | and if it can't attack the computer AI should not follow you |
| 18:48.21 | naxxan | and i cant test it sorry man |
| 18:48.24 | naxxan | @ work and i dont have GE |
| 18:48.33 | naxxan | im not actually an editor, just a gamer |
| 18:48.56 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.wikiupload.com/XiGpcDg1 |
| 18:49.01 | ProzaicMuze | np |
| 18:49.05 | ctccromer | ashamed: alright, i removed the weapon, how do i make it unselectable? (then ill test it) |
| 18:49.06 | ProzaicMuze | anyone who is willing can run it |
| 18:49.15 | ProzaicMuze | just need someone to open it and make sure it's not buggy for them |
| 18:49.20 | ProzaicMuze | Worked fine for me though |
| 18:49.44 | Ashamed | set unit state |
| 18:50.06 | Ashamed | hows the family sixen? |
| 18:50.31 | ctccromer | ashamed: i see selectable, but nto UNselectable -.- |
| 18:50.33 | Ashamed | ctcc.. I have never done this before.. So you might have to just start messing with it now |
| 18:51.01 | ctccromer | if i change it to Hidden, will the model show but it not be selectable? |
| 18:51.05 | Sixen | Good :p |
| 18:51.07 | Ashamed | off |
| 18:51.10 | Ashamed | turn it off |
| 18:51.12 | Ashamed | say selectable |
| 18:51.16 | Ashamed | and then state off |
| 18:51.20 | ctccromer | oh duh sorry lol |
| 18:51.28 | Ashamed | Thats good |
| 18:51.35 | Ashamed | why are they visiting? |
| 18:51.42 | Ashamed | family reunion? |
| 18:51.52 | naxxan | ashamed, tell him about ur lil family :) |
| 18:51.59 | Ashamed | I am having a baby! |
| 18:52.00 | Ashamed | :) |
| 18:52.12 | naxxan | yes, ashamed and i are expecting. |
| 18:52.15 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/defend-expo/. Defend of the Expo~!. CyberiumCrystal (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 18:52.31 | Ashamed | you wish |
| 18:52.37 | naxxan | no u |
| 18:52.42 | Ashamed | NO U |
| 18:53.03 | naxxan | DODGE THE RAPIST. when is someone gonna make that, with air space included as well as back and forth movement |
| 18:53.07 | naxxan | is that possible? |
| 18:53.15 | Ashamed | yes |
| 18:53.36 | Ashamed | that should of all been possible in sc actually |
| 18:53.40 | naxxan | like.. set destinations not on the ground. |
| 18:53.45 | naxxan | in mid air |
| 18:53.51 | naxxan | right clickable.. |
| 18:54.01 | Ashamed | why would you need to set a destination in mid air? |
| 18:54.06 | Ashamed | what would the differnce be? |
| 18:54.08 | naxxan | i dont think that would be easy, maybe just hot keys to move altitude up or down? |
| 18:54.35 | naxxan | i mean dodge the rapist... 3D |
| 18:54.42 | Ashamed | oh |
| 18:54.46 | Ashamed | so up and down |
| 18:54.51 | Ashamed | and forward and back |
| 18:54.56 | Ashamed | it could be done for sure |
| 18:55.02 | Azoreo | When it somebody going to make a unit which fires the missile - player takes control of the missile until it explodes - then returns control to the original unit? |
| 18:55.02 | Motive | lol |
| 18:55.04 | Motive | dodge the rapist |
| 18:55.10 | Motive | where do people come up with this shit? |
| 18:55.19 | Ashamed | azoreo i was thinking about that spell too |
| 18:55.25 | Ashamed | it seems like it would be easy to make |
| 18:55.27 | naxxan | motive it is a sc1 map |
| 18:55.27 | Azoreo | I said it first. |
| 18:55.30 | Motive | yes |
| 18:55.33 | Azoreo | Everything is easy to make in GE. |
| 18:55.39 | Motive | but how did the original author come up with that idea |
| 18:55.42 | Azoreo | Just spend a week banging your head in frustration and wham, it appears. |
| 18:55.47 | Ashamed | Motive dodge the rapist was a sc map |
| 18:55.48 | naxxan | azoreo, ashamed and i talked about it before i even knew this place existed |
| 18:55.50 | naxxan | so there :) |
| 18:55.52 | Motive | I know :P |
| 18:55.58 | Motive | But how did the original author come up with that idea? |
| 18:56.01 | Azoreo | Did you record your discussion in an MIRC log? |
| 18:56.03 | naxxan | more just ashamed. lol |
| 18:56.16 | ctccromer | ashamed: i added set movable off, and deselect it, and it works fine EXCEPT that since i have yet to turn auto-attacking off, he still shoots it when the other guys die |
| 18:56.23 | Ashamed | naxxan and I know each other in RL.. we didnt talk in IRC |
| 18:56.27 | Azoreo | Tough! |
| 18:56.27 | naxxan | no, but we are under fbi surveillance and they probably recorded it. |
| 18:56.31 | ctccromer | but i have a tournament to play, so ill be back later. thanks for the help and sorry for the confusion :) |
| 18:56.32 | Azoreo | Damn. |
| 18:56.36 | Motive | lol |
| 18:56.38 | Azoreo | FBI always joshing my shit. |
| 18:56.43 | Motive | FBI has better things to do than monitor #sc2mapster |
| 18:56.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster mikelat1 (~mikelat@H13.C205.cci.switchworks.net) |
| 18:56.48 | Motive | they're busy in #terroristclubhouse |
| 18:56.54 | Ashamed | pff i almost gave that guy his whole trigger.. and i never did that before lol |
| 18:56.59 | Ashamed | I can't believe that worked that well |
| 18:57.08 | naxxan | Battlefield 2 had controllable missles :) |
| 18:57.23 | Azoreo | And since Battlefield 2 was done with GE, it must be possible in GE, right? |
| 18:57.36 | naxxan | have you seen what ge can do |
| 18:57.41 | Motive | WoW was done with GE. |
| 18:57.41 | naxxan | i havent |
| 18:57.43 | Motive | lolol |
| 18:57.50 | Azoreo | I'm pretty sure the standard test is whether or not a piece of technology can make toast. |
| 18:57.54 | Azoreo | And since GE can't, it's a POS. |
| 18:58.03 | Motive | no it can |
| 18:58.06 | Motive | Tools -> Toast Maker |
| 18:58.10 | naxxan | lol i thought ge was general electic for a while... |
| 18:58.13 | Azoreo | Hum, didn't see that one. |
| 18:58.21 | naxxan | then i was like wait this is sc... galaxy edit im so smart!~ |
| 18:58.32 | Azoreo | Unit - Issue Order - Make Toast in Region |
| 18:58.43 | naxxan | i want toss toast/ |
| 18:58.58 | Azoreo | Toss Salad? |
| 18:58.58 | naxxan | or rine chops |
| 18:59.07 | naxxan | or ling kabobs |
| 18:59.10 | Motive | you need to make a custom unit that is a child of CToaster and CToast |
| 18:59.16 | Ashamed | lol |
| 18:59.16 | Azoreo | Those'd be good consumable Naxxan. |
| 18:59.24 | Sixen | There are FBI agents here. |
| 18:59.25 | Azoreo | *consumables. |
| 18:59.33 | Sixen | I'm popular. |
| 18:59.34 | Sixen | ;P |
| 18:59.42 | Motive | #sc2mapster is just a giant sting operation |
| 18:59.46 | naxxan | yeah consumables you have to hunt for, clean and cook yourself before you can consume! |
| 18:59.51 | Motive | to combat terrorists using maps to coordinate attacks on America. |
| 18:59.53 | Azoreo | At least it's a sting operation with tutorials. |
| 19:00.03 | Sixen | lol |
| 19:00.06 | naxxan | hey fbi guys. i smoke weed. |
| 19:00.12 | Motive | yeah, so do they |
| 19:00.13 | Motive | LOL |
| 19:00.19 | naxxan | they dont have to pay for theirs |
| 19:00.25 | naxxan | they take it away from ppl and then smoke it |
| 19:00.26 | Motive | yeah they just attend the bonfires they light |
| 19:00.28 | Motive | after confiscating it |
| 19:00.28 | Azoreo | Just get it out of the evidence locker :( |
| 19:00.33 | Motive | they light up like 5000 lbs of weed at once |
| 19:00.34 | naxxan | lol |
| 19:00.35 | Motive | and just have a barbeque next to it |
| 19:00.46 | Ashamed | that would be fun |
| 19:00.52 | Ashamed | 5000 lbs of weed = alot of weed |
| 19:00.55 | naxxan | screw firewood, just make a campfire completely of weed. i like that idea. |
| 19:00.56 | Azoreo | Wonder if the cops ever hotbox rookies - like, lock them in their locker and light a fistful of weed inside. |
| 19:01.00 | Ashamed | like 25 million dollars |
| 19:01.02 | Ashamed | or more |
| 19:01.16 | nicoli_s | you people are silly |
| 19:01.18 | Azoreo | Imma go write down an idea for a book I'll never write. |
| 19:01.30 | naxxan | oooh so earlier today ashamed remmeber i was telling you about funny pictures i saw? |
| 19:01.32 | Ashamed | Yeah i have an idea of a book that i am never going ti write too |
| 19:01.37 | nicoli_s | it totally depends on weeed quality on how much it costs :P |
| 19:01.49 | Ashamed | ... oh lol nicoli you are talking to the wrong person |
| 19:01.52 | naxxan | well when the twin towers went down there was all that smoke right? well someone photoshopped it and had a news thing on there saying "cannabis legalized in ny" |
| 19:02.07 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:02.12 | Ashamed | thats messed up |
| 19:02.16 | naxxan | yeah but i still laughed. |
| 19:02.18 | Motive | those terrorists were high as a kite. |
| 19:02.19 | nicoli_s | Ashamed:what do you mean |
| 19:02.20 | Motive | or a 747. |
| 19:02.29 | Ashamed | I am teh grower in colorado |
| 19:02.31 | Ashamed | since its legal now |
| 19:02.32 | nicoli_s | ahhh |
| 19:02.35 | nicoli_s | lucky you :P |
| 19:02.37 | Ashamed | :) |
| 19:02.42 | naxxan | well 747 normally dont crash into buildings. so the 747 must have been high as a kite and the terrorists were high as a 747 |
| 19:02.44 | Ashamed | i have 8 plants in flower state right now |
| 19:02.50 | nicoli_s | my parents(who are total hippies) are always talking about wanting to |
| 19:02.51 | Motive | Agreed. :P |
| 19:02.55 | Ashamed | durban poison/blueberry |
| 19:02.58 | Sixen | Warning: Orphaned trigger function call removed: Function Call 'Triggering Unit' (Function Call, 9033D9B0, Lib: 0) |
| 19:02.58 | Sixen | Warning: Invalid trigger element reference removed from Parameter Value 'Unknown' (Function Call, 9033D9B0, Lib: 0) |
| 19:02.58 | Sixen | lol |
| 19:02.59 | Sixen | I win. |
| 19:03.03 | nicoli_s | and my dad who is a redneck just does it in the woods |
| 19:03.12 | Ashamed | goodz |
| 19:03.14 | Motive | lol I have no idea why GUI does that |
| 19:03.18 | Ashamed | tell him to keep at it |
| 19:03.22 | Sixen | It's calling an invalid trigger lib |
| 19:03.25 | Motive | another reason to hate GUI :D |
| 19:03.26 | Ashamed | becuse weed is something that should be legal! |
| 19:03.28 | Sixen | How'd we make that happen? |
| 19:03.31 | nicoli_s | indeed ashamed |
| 19:03.39 | Motive | weed basically is legal |
| 19:03.41 | Motive | it's hard to get caught |
| 19:03.43 | Motive | and easy to get |
| 19:03.43 | Ashamed | i have 6 differnt strains |
| 19:03.43 | nicoli_s | we are close to having it medicinally here in alabama of all places |
| 19:03.44 | Motive | Lol |
| 19:03.49 | Ashamed | it is legal motive |
| 19:03.52 | Ashamed | in certain states |
| 19:03.53 | naxxan | LOL |
| 19:03.53 | Motive | not in NJ |
| 19:03.55 | naxxan | alabama :) |
| 19:03.56 | Ashamed | 14 of them actually |
| 19:03.57 | Motive | but it might as well be |
| 19:04.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnvkol (ekcolnovko@pool-173-68-38-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net) |
| 19:04.22 | nicoli_s | naxxan:we live in the good part of alabama |
| 19:04.32 | Ashamed | yeah its at the point where the people that don't "Participate in it" still say they dont care if others do |
| 19:04.33 | ekcolnvkol | hey sixen |
| 19:04.38 | naxxan | oooh, not in the neck of the woods. or whatever the saying is :) nicoli |
| 19:04.39 | Sixen | Motive, did you get a different error from the GUI? |
| 19:04.44 | Sixen | hai ekcoenceclecol. |
| 19:04.51 | nicoli_s | huntsville is like the bastion of cool in a sea of ignorance that is alabama |
| 19:05.00 | Motive | I didn't really look at the error much. But I know the 'orphaned call' crap I get all the time |
| 19:05.00 | naxxan | lol |
| 19:05.05 | Motive | it never affects anything though |
| 19:05.14 | Sixen | weird. |
| 19:05.15 | naxxan | ive gotta admit, i have NEVER liked boulder or the people in it, but i do like they like weed. |
| 19:05.34 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:05.36 | naxxan | i live in boulder county thouhg, not boulder itself. lotsa loonies there |
| 19:05.41 | Motive | ashamed you should mail me some. |
| 19:05.42 | Motive | lots* |
| 19:05.43 | nicoli_s | a friend of mine saw ice t in a grocery store in boulder |
| 19:05.50 | nicoli_s | while going to school up there |
| 19:05.50 | ekcolnvkol | sixen |
| 19:05.53 | Ashamed | oh yah ok motive |
| 19:05.56 | ekcolnvkol | 2.5k views and no sticky? ;) |
| 19:05.57 | Ashamed | mby some seeds... |
| 19:06.03 | Ashamed | but that would be it |
| 19:06.04 | naxxan | lol dog the bounty hunter was in longmont and tracked some dude all the way to greeley!! |
| 19:06.10 | Sixen | wut |
| 19:06.11 | Motive | lol it's apparently fine to send through the mail as long as you don't use USPS |
| 19:06.11 | Sixen | where |
| 19:06.19 | Motive | USPS will rape you |
| 19:06.25 | nicoli_s | my parents send it through the mail just fine |
| 19:06.31 | nicoli_s | from my cousin in cali |
| 19:06.36 | naxxan | its anthrax man |
| 19:06.38 | naxxan | careful |
| 19:06.39 | ekcolnvkol | my thread |
| 19:06.39 | Motive | through USPS, nicoli? |
| 19:06.41 | Ashamed | nice |
| 19:06.44 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:06.47 | nicoli_s | yep motice, overnight delivery |
| 19:06.50 | nicoli_s | motive* |
| 19:06.51 | Motive | Lol nice |
| 19:06.51 | Motive | xD |
| 19:06.53 | ekcolnvkol | i have more views than your "promote sc2mapster" thread ;D |
| 19:06.57 | nicoli_s | they are such damn hippies :P |
| 19:07.03 | Ashamed | Naxxan... I turned him into a stoner guys :) |
| 19:07.18 | Ashamed | he came to me one day and told me he smoked fake weed |
| 19:07.20 | Ashamed | and i was like WTF |
| 19:07.22 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:07.28 | naxxan | ya dude, BLACK MAMBA |
| 19:07.29 | Ashamed | and he never went back |
| 19:07.29 | Motive | I still wouldn't go through USPS though, just 'cause it's gov't. |
| 19:07.30 | Motive | LOL |
| 19:07.31 | Motive | fake weed |
| 19:07.34 | Motive | how do yo ufall for that? |
| 19:07.47 | naxxan | cuz you buy it at a smoke shop... not a dispensary |
| 19:07.53 | Ashamed | I think they mix herbs with salvia or something |
| 19:08.01 | nicoli_s | haha salvia |
| 19:08.08 | nicoli_s | so funny they are trying to make it illegal now |
| 19:08.15 | Ashamed | its stupid |
| 19:08.17 | Ashamed | i dont like it |
| 19:08.21 | naxxan | they call it black mamba, it has a lot lower effect then weed, and my best friend said that he saw luigi the first time he did it. |
| 19:08.38 | Ashamed | yeah if he said that naxxan then it has salvia in it for sure |
| 19:08.45 | Helral | is your friend mario? |
| 19:08.48 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:08.49 | naxxan | i didnt see anything though. when i smoked it. i just felt a lil high |
| 19:08.52 | Motive | Just legalize everything. If you OD, it's your fault. (And you can't OD on marijuana anyways) And boom, you solve like, the entire multi-billion dollar war on drugs. |
| 19:09.00 | Ashamed | didn't you do salvia with us? |
| 19:09.02 | naxxan | then i smoked weed and threw up for a while til i got used to it lol |
| 19:09.06 | naxxan | and no i didnt i was in AZ |
| 19:09.09 | Ashamed | oh |
| 19:09.12 | Ashamed | bummer |
| 19:09.15 | naxxan | ya lol |
| 19:09.18 | naxxan | lets get some |
| 19:09.22 | Ashamed | nah |
| 19:09.31 | naxxan | oh the responsible father huh |
| 19:09.34 | naxxan | ROFL jk |
| 19:09.43 | Ashamed | I just dont like it |
| 19:09.48 | Ashamed | its stupid |
| 19:09.49 | naxxan | i probably wouldnt either |
| 19:10.05 | naxxan | i wanna smoke some weed in a hot tub. |
| 19:10.10 | naxxan | speaking of which... theres one at our apt |
| 19:10.10 | Motive | Lolol |
| 19:10.16 | nicoli_s | id love a hot tub |
| 19:10.18 | Ashamed | Nicoli I will try to get some pictures and send them too you.. of my crop |
| 19:10.40 | naxxan | but we will have to do it at night.... they said no smokin it out side lol.... the first time i smoked black mamba (the fake weed) i kept tellin everyone i was a jelly fish... there was like 10 of is in a small hot tub |
| 19:10.44 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 19:10.51 | Motive | LOL |
| 19:11.03 | nicoli_s | that wasnt in response to what naxxan said :P |
| 19:11.17 | naxxan | i know you were talkin about his pics :D |
| 19:11.31 | naxxan | i may not know how to edit but i have a small grain of common sense somewhere inside me brain |
| 19:11.40 | Ashamed | very deep |
| 19:11.41 | Ashamed | inside |
| 19:11.43 | Ashamed | >< |
| 19:11.48 | Ashamed | JK |
| 19:11.49 | naxxan | thats what she said |
| 19:11.52 | Ashamed | or am i |
| 19:11.55 | naxxan | "deep" |
| 19:12.01 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:12.02 | naxxan | "inside" |
| 19:12.07 | nicoli_s | so anyone here excited about any upcoming mmos? |
| 19:12.09 | naxxan | "><" |
| 19:12.17 | naxxan | ffxiv |
| 19:12.23 | naxxan | some fag got me interested in it |
| 19:12.23 | Ashamed | but you forgot the first 3 words |
| 19:12.26 | nicoli_s | meh, ffxiv is meh atm |
| 19:12.27 | Ashamed | why arn't you |
| 19:12.36 | depthsofchaos | guild wars 2 :oo as long as its not monthly paid |
| 19:12.47 | nicoli_s | i played it in alpha, and the ui was terrible enough to make me not want to play it |
| 19:12.51 | Ashamed | ff14 will be cool |
| 19:12.55 | nicoli_s | i hear its gotten a little better |
| 19:13.04 | Ashamed | ... you play ff14 alpha? |
| 19:13.05 | nicoli_s | but its still best to play with a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard |
| 19:13.15 | naxxan | dude hell no fuck that |
| 19:13.21 | nicoli_s | im media press i get all the cool betas/alphas :P |
| 19:13.24 | naxxan | mouse keyboard > controller anyday ...but thats imo :) |
| 19:13.33 | Ashamed | but you played ff14? |
| 19:13.40 | Ashamed | or guild wars 2? |
| 19:13.43 | Motive | it depends I think, naxxan. |
| 19:13.47 | Furyhunter | ff14 looks AMAZING. |
| 19:13.47 | Motive | racing games and stuff, controller ftw |
| 19:13.52 | Furyhunter | guild wars 2 looks like a rehash of the game |
| 19:13.53 | Ashamed | it looks awesome |
| 19:13.53 | Motive | most stuff though I agree, mouse + keyboard is best |
| 19:13.56 | Furyhunter | before it |
| 19:14.11 | nicoli_s | ashamed:ffxic |
| 19:14.16 | nicoli_s | i wish i played guild wars 2 |
| 19:14.23 | Ashamed | you didnt like it?? |
| 19:14.27 | nicoli_s | and yeah ffxiv does look incredibly nice |
| 19:14.33 | naxxan | what wold you prefer a controller on motive? |
| 19:14.42 | nicoli_s | but like i said the whole ui was just so bad |
| 19:14.45 | Motive | Anything involving moving vehicles |
| 19:14.50 | Ashamed | really.. that doesn't seem like them |
| 19:14.51 | Furyhunter | I like the controller set up they use in FFXI/V |
| 19:14.52 | naxxan | i mean yeah if im gonna fly a aircraft id use a joystick... but the other times id much rather a mouse keyboard :D |
| 19:14.53 | Ashamed | ff11 ui was great |
| 19:14.54 | Ashamed | i loved it |
| 19:14.57 | xeSec | ashamed |
| 19:14.59 | xeSec | get to work |
| 19:15.02 | Furyhunter | It's very nice |
| 19:15.02 | xeSec | you have real work to be doing |
| 19:15.04 | Furyhunter | It's just limited |
| 19:15.09 | naxxan | xesec how many tickets have you done today |
| 19:15.14 | xeSec | shhhh |
| 19:15.16 | xeSec | non |
| 19:15.16 | xeSec | e |
| 19:15.18 | Ashamed | i just hung up on fluor lol |
| 19:15.20 | naxxan | ive done 3 |
| 19:15.22 | naxxan | lol |
| 19:15.23 | Azoreo | One of my friends is a designer on GW2. |
| 19:15.26 | Ashamed | I shouldn't be getting there calls this late |
| 19:15.32 | Azoreo | (contract designer). |
| 19:15.36 | naxxan | LOL |
| 19:15.39 | xeSec | Ashamed do your work |
| 19:15.39 | Ashamed | their* |
| 19:15.41 | Ashamed | NO |
| 19:15.44 | xeSec | Naxxan you own |
| 19:15.49 | xeSec | 3 ticket man |
| 19:16.05 | naxxan | movite, i agree yes... but only AIRCRAFT (which ill use a joystick) tanks jeeps etc land craft... ill use mousekeyboard |
| 19:16.11 | Azoreo | 3 tickets? Tech support? |
| 19:16.14 | naxxan | hey man i got 1 ticket done yesterday... thats 300% improvement |
| 19:16.21 | Ashamed | yah we are tech support :( |
| 19:16.30 | Motive | well it's fun if your controller can like, vibrate too |
| 19:16.33 | Azoreo | For who? |
| 19:16.34 | Motive | makes the feel of "driving" better |
| 19:16.36 | Ashamed | alot of peeps |
| 19:16.38 | Ashamed | IBM |
| 19:16.41 | Motive | /shrug |
| 19:16.42 | Ashamed | is the company we work for |
| 19:16.47 | naxxan | lol motive, get the sterring wheel :D HAHA |
| 19:16.49 | Ashamed | we support IBM's systems |
| 19:16.50 | Motive | LOL |
| 19:16.50 | Motive | yeah |
| 19:16.54 | Motive | steering wheel would be epic :P |
| 19:16.56 | Ashamed | like their networks and shit |
| 19:17.04 | Azoreo | Just asked 'cause I have a friend who works for WildTangent up in Seattle doing e-mail support...hates it. |
| 19:17.11 | Azoreo | At least he gets to stay at home with his kid. |
| 19:17.15 | Ashamed | its not cunsumer tech support |
| 19:17.18 | Ashamed | its corporate |
| 19:17.21 | xeSec | I hate IBM |
| 19:17.25 | naxxan | i honestly dont know anyone who likes working at ibm |
| 19:17.26 | xeSec | I know how your buddy feels |
| 19:17.32 | Motive | Lol wildtangent |
| 19:17.36 | Motive | aren't they like, spyware? |
| 19:17.40 | Motive | or at least, crapware? |
| 19:17.46 | naxxan | lol |
| 19:17.51 | Azoreo | Casual games for stay at home moms? I dunno |
| 19:17.59 | Ashamed | IBM SUCKS |
| 19:18.06 | PregomyEgo | IBM does suck |
| 19:18.07 | xeSec | kinda like you |
| 19:18.10 | naxxan | i played gemcraft 2.0 the entire time i was getting trained here at IBM. |
| 19:18.17 | naxxan | on armorgames lol |
| 19:18.18 | Azoreo | Gemcraft is AWESOME. |
| 19:18.32 | xeSec | Yeah me an nax got yelled at for playing games it was quite funny |
| 19:18.37 | xeSec | damn power trippin managers |
| 19:18.40 | Ashamed | i play sc2 >< |
| 19:18.43 | naxxan | then they flew in a trainer from argentina |
| 19:18.48 | Azoreo | Maradona |
| 19:18.48 | xeSec | he smelled |
| 19:18.54 | naxxan | a coworker and i went home and we smoked weed with him |
| 19:18.58 | Motive | LOL |
| 19:19.15 | Ashamed | at my house |
| 19:19.23 | naxxan | he didnt smoke though, he said if he got caught hed lose his job... he can only smoke in argentina, and yeah it was at ashameds house haha |
| 19:19.27 | naxxan | we went there on our lunch |
| 19:19.28 | Azoreo | Blizzard needs to fix custom events : ( |
| 19:19.36 | Ashamed | they went to my house and smoked weedz with their boss |
| 19:19.41 | Motive | custom events will suck anyways |
| 19:19.46 | Motive | unless they come up with a better way to store callbacks |
| 19:19.50 | RedWraith | to be honest, custom events don't seem particularly useful, but I'd still like them. |
| 19:19.50 | RedWraith | :O |
| 19:19.55 | Motive | yeah |
| 19:19.55 | naxxan | our trainer that they flew in from argentina... a little more extreme then just a boss :) |
| 19:19.55 | RedWraith | would be good for recursion |
| 19:20.03 | Azoreo | Well, I don't really have a way to do what I need w/ regions w/o a custom event. |
| 19:20.08 | Azoreo | (or haven't found a way). |
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| 19:20.16 | Motive | You can emulate custom events in regular Galaxy |
| 19:20.19 | Motive | just do |
| 19:20.26 | Motive | void AddEventBlah(trigger t, ...) |
| 19:20.29 | Motive | store the "t" callback |
| 19:20.39 | Motive | and call it when you have to with TriggerExecute(t) |
| 19:20.46 | Azoreo | Hrm... |
| 19:20.51 | Furyhunter | http://www.dailytech.com/Obama+Administration+Announces+Massive+Piracy+Crackdown/article18815.htm |
| 19:20.54 | Azoreo | I messed with the script, but couldn't get it working. |
| 19:20.54 | PregomyEgo | i Love weed |
| 19:20.55 | Motive | lol |
| 19:20.57 | Motive | obama |
| 19:20.59 | Furyhunter | Obama can suck my presidential COCK. |
| 19:21.03 | Ashamed | WEED |
| 19:21.03 | Azoreo | I'll ask about it later when I go back to that feature. |
| 19:21.15 | xeSec | WEEED |
| 19:21.20 | xeSec | LET's GET HigH |
| 19:21.24 | naxxan | lets do eet |
| 19:21.24 | PregomyEgo | yup |
| 19:21.27 | Azoreo | I'd prefer coffee... |
| 19:21.36 | Motive | We're fighting a war on terror, a massive oil spill, we have illegal immigrants all over the place, and two wide open borders, and he's worried about piracy. |
| 19:21.37 | PregomyEgo | thats why you suck at games |
| 19:21.42 | Ashamed | Its actually biden that wants to cahnge that stuff |
| 19:21.51 | naxxan | obama doesnt want people to know he truly likes piracy, because hes an anal pirate |
| 19:21.59 | PregomyEgo | lol |
| 19:22.02 | Azoreo | Brazil has toooons of terrorism. Yep. Because they fight tons of wars. |
| 19:22.04 | Motive | xD |
| 19:22.06 | Ashamed | .. its biden that wants that |
| 19:22.09 | Azoreo | If America just left people the hell alone, people would leave it alone. |
| 19:22.14 | Motive | We're America though |
| 19:22.17 | Motive | we don't leave people alone. :P |
| 19:22.20 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:22.22 | xeSec | Fuck that! |
| 19:22.26 | Azoreo | We did for most of our history. |
| 19:22.28 | xeSec | I AM AMERICA |
| 19:22.29 | Ashamed | America = Anarchy soon |
| 19:22.33 | naxxan | think of it this way, you can buy the games, use em and throw em out and then they gotta be processsed through grabage blah blah blah |
| 19:22.34 | naxxan | or... |
| 19:22.50 | naxxan | we can pirate...piracy... WTF EVER and delete it off the hard drive when we are done |
| 19:22.53 | PregomyEgo | yup yup.... we just piss everyone off by trying to run there country when everyone that lives here is pissed at the gov. for always fucking us over |
| 19:22.53 | Azoreo | I pirate stuff AND I worked in the game industry... |
| 19:23.15 | Ashamed | .. yeah don't think us Americans like our govermentr |
| 19:23.17 | Ashamed | we fucken hate it |
| 19:23.44 | xeSec | I love my obama-nation |
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| 19:23.47 | naxxan | people who are leaders shouldnt be, and people who should be leaders smoke pot. cuz we know whats up |
| 19:23.47 | Motive | lolol |
| 19:23.50 | Ashamed | LIES |
| 19:23.52 | PregomyEgo | they are just corp fuckers trying to make thre lives betetr off the little people...and nothing we can do about it.. example: Court system |
| 19:24.02 | Azoreo | Obama's gonna get boned. 8 years of Bush's screwups is getting dumped on him. |
| 19:24.11 | Azoreo | When they revise history books, Obama's gonna be called a failure :( |
| 19:24.14 | xeSec | Yeah, I would bone obama |
| 19:24.15 | Ashamed | ... and he has the oil spill now |
| 19:24.18 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 19:24.20 | Motive | No, Obama's gonna' get boned for one reason. |
| 19:24.23 | Azoreo | Yeah, grats on that Obama. |
| 19:24.25 | Ashamed | i think he is going to be the worst hated president |
| 19:24.30 | Motive | Everyone elected him assuming that Bush was a complete dumbfuck and he could fix everything. |
| 19:24.36 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 19:24.39 | Ashamed | he was like I AM NOT BUSH |
| 19:24.40 | Motive | Well, turns out being President isn't so easy. |
| 19:24.40 | Ashamed | VOTE ME |
| 19:24.43 | Ashamed | and everyone did |
| 19:24.43 | PregomyEgo | when American adn the Hill is dumb fuckers |
| 19:24.45 | Motive | Who would've guessed? |
| 19:24.46 | PregomyEgo | we didnt replace them |
| 19:24.50 | Motive | The hardest job in the world is difficult? |
| 19:24.51 | Motive | Nowai! |
| 19:25.05 | Furyhunter | The fact that the organization allowed themselves to succumb to lobbying is enough to prove that everything he's standing on is a fallacy and a mistake. |
| 19:25.18 | Furyhunter | Any respect I had is gone. |
| 19:25.25 | Azoreo | President of the U.S. is the 'hardest' job in the world because it's dealing with 300 million spoiled little bastards. |
| 19:25.26 | xeSec | @ motive the hardest job in the world I would think would be pretty damn challenging |
| 19:25.30 | Azoreo | It's like daddy-day care in hell. |
| 19:25.39 | PregomyEgo | hes just a puppet i think.... the hill and all the beuorocrats that jsut wanna make $$ off us |
| 19:25.43 | Motive | It's not the most physically demanding job ut |
| 19:25.46 | naxxan | i saw pic of a bum that had a sign.. it read "i want what obama wants... give me some change" |
| 19:25.53 | Azoreo | lul |
| 19:25.53 | Motive | you have to make the kind of decisions that cost lives, and there's never a right-wrong choice. |
| 19:25.56 | Ashamed | ANARCY WE NEED TO TAKE THE GOVERMENT INTO OUR OWN HANDS |
| 19:25.57 | Motive | There's usually just two wrong choices. |
| 19:26.05 | PregomyEgo | Exactly |
| 19:26.06 | Azoreo | Err...? |
| 19:26.08 | PregomyEgo | Rebel |
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| 19:26.12 | PregomyEgo | its time to Rebel |
| 19:26.13 | Azoreo | Whaddya mean Motive? |
| 19:26.20 | Furyhunter | We'll never get past planning, PregomyEgo |
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| 19:26.25 | xeSec | It's time for the revolution |
| 19:26.26 | Furyhunter | It'd get pinned with "TERRORISM" in a heartbeat. |
| 19:26.27 | Azoreo | #SC2MAPSTERY TEA PARTY |
| 19:26.29 | Ashamed | fury its about to hapen |
| 19:26.33 | Ashamed | i can feel it |
| 19:26.34 | PregomyEgo | Im going t teach my baby the wyas of the world and have him teach the new generation that they have to rebel |
| 19:26.42 | Motive | Consider stuff like the Patriot Act |
| 19:26.56 | Motive | we know it's saved lives because the FBI and other gov't agencies have been mostly on top of terrorists in the USA |
| 19:26.57 | PregomyEgo | my baby is going to be like ...you tried to fuck over my Mama..oh no you didnt |
| 19:26.59 | Furyhunter | More than half the people I know think the Patriot Act is saving the nation from terrorism. |
| 19:27.03 | Furyhunter | Fucking insane. |
| 19:27.06 | Motive | but it's still wrong because it most certainly infringes upon everyone's civil rights. |
| 19:27.08 | Furyhunter | I really doubt a rebellion is coming. |
| 19:27.16 | Ashamed | it does |
| 19:27.24 | PregomyEgo | i think it is...you obviously dont come to colorado that often |
| 19:27.30 | naxxan | kind of like... if they make guns illegal... all the outlaws will have the guns and we will have what? NERF OR NOTHIN! |
| 19:27.35 | Motive | LOL! |
| 19:27.36 | Azoreo | Colorado gets terrorized regularly. |
| 19:27.36 | Ashamed | i couldn't get my licsense or a bank account because of the damn patriot act |
| 19:27.43 | Furyhunter | naxxan, just like at Australia |
| 19:27.43 | Motive | Oh yeah that whole get rid of guns crap pisses me off. |
| 19:27.48 | Motive | "Let's outlaw guns so the outlaws can't have them!" |
| 19:27.50 | Motive | "Err, wait..." |
| 19:27.55 | naxxan | lol |
| 19:27.58 | Ashamed | America wanted to interigate me and make sure i was a civillan. |
| 19:28.05 | xeSec | Mark J. Seliskar: I have an errand to run. I hope to be back in an hour. |
| 19:28.07 | Motive | It's like impossible to get a gun in NJ apparently. |
| 19:28.10 | naxxan | you damn guennia ashamed |
| 19:28.11 | Motive | And even if you do get one |
| 19:28.12 | Azoreo | If you're brown you're not one of us Ashamed :( |
| 19:28.15 | Motive | it's impossible outright to get the carry permit |
| 19:28.18 | PregomyEgo | Colorado is all about Weed now..... and we all hate the goverment for trying to screw us over with it too... its coming weather you feel it or not |
| 19:28.19 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:28.21 | Ashamed | i am not |
| 19:28.21 | Ashamed | i am white as shit |
| 19:28.23 | xeSec | you see that steve |
| 19:28.30 | Azoreo | Shit's brown. |
| 19:28.31 | PregomyEgo | hes a rich mexican |
| 19:28.33 | PregomyEgo | get him |
| 19:28.37 | Ashamed | :( |
| 19:28.41 | xeSec | ashamed |
| 19:28.41 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:28.41 | Furyhunter | I doubt one state of 48 intercontinentals is going to be able to rile up enough people, though. |
| 19:28.44 | naxxan | yeah whats mark doin? lets follow that foo |
| 19:28.47 | Ashamed | that is a bad way to say you are white i guess |
| 19:28.48 | Furyhunter | Especially as mountainous a region as Colorado. |
| 19:28.54 | xeSec | lol |
| 19:28.55 | Motive | Lol |
| 19:28.57 | Motive | Rebellion is pointless. |
| 19:28.58 | Azoreo | Mountains > Rebellions. |
| 19:28.59 | Azoreo | Every time. |
| 19:29.01 | Furyhunter | (saying there's not nearly as many people per square mile as there are in the far east and west |
| 19:29.03 | xeSec | he is leaving for an hour so he must be boin christal |
| 19:29.05 | xeSec | bonin |
| 19:29.07 | Motive | If you rebel, the greater US will retake your state |
| 19:29.07 | PregomyEgo | rebellion is chnage |
| 19:29.08 | Motive | by force. |
| 19:29.08 | Motive | :) |
| 19:29.08 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/4077-contest-ideas/ |
| 19:29.10 | PregomyEgo | what america needs |
| 19:29.17 | PregomyEgo | more gov aint going to do shit |
| 19:29.21 | Azoreo | Bonin' takes like 30 seconds, trust me I've done it. |
| 19:29.23 | nicoli_s | everyone go to vjeux link and give ideas! |
| 19:29.29 | Ashamed | k well its time for me and prego there to go home |
| 19:29.33 | PregomyEgo | Rebel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:29.33 | Sixen | actually, I was going to ask what you wanted to do next, vjeux |
| 19:29.34 | Sixen | :P |
| 19:29.35 | xeSec | not for my manager |
| 19:29.39 | vjeux | xD |
| 19:29.42 | Furyhunter | LOL! |
| 19:29.49 | Ashamed | cya guys |
| 19:29.53 | Azoreo | tchau |
| 19:29.54 | Ashamed | i will talk to yall tomorrow |
| 19:29.57 | Ashamed | or later |
| 19:29.59 | Ashamed | .. i dunno |
| 19:30.03 | xeSec | shut up |
| 19:30.04 | xeSec | leave |
| 19:30.04 | naxxan | finish golems |
| 19:30.06 | naxxan | fag |
| 19:30.07 | Ashamed | NO |
| 19:30.10 | Motive | send me weed |
| 19:30.10 | Ashamed | YOU LEAVE |
| 19:30.10 | Motive | fag |
| 19:30.11 | Ashamed | NO U |
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| 19:30.13 | Azoreo | time to work I guess |
| 19:30.23 | naxxan | lets get high |
| 19:30.25 | xeSec | Go home ashamed |
| 19:30.26 | naxxan | nao |
| 19:30.43 | nicoli_s | come on fellas lets simmer |
| 19:30.53 | xeSec | simma down nao |
| 19:31.07 | naxxan | did you add enough lisp to that? |
| 19:31.23 | xeSec | no sorry douche |
| 19:31.27 | Motive | I knew a guy who was such a pothead he couldn't drive for shit while sober. He actually hit a no u-turn sign sober, then got high, and was like a perfect driver. |
| 19:31.29 | Motive | It scared me. |
| 19:31.38 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:31.40 | naxxan | LOL |
| 19:31.46 | xeSec | that is kind of scary |
| 19:31.52 | Motive | It's more scary when you're in the car when he does it. |
| 19:31.54 | Motive | :( |
| 19:31.55 | naxxan | we arent including retards to our getting high time |
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| 19:38.31 | nicoli_s | wow that convo died out pretty quick |
| 19:38.35 | Motive | yeah |
| 19:38.36 | Motive | xD |
| 19:39.02 | Sixen | ;p |
| 19:39.03 | nicoli_s | anyone made any cool maps lately? |
| 19:39.30 | Azore2 | Working on it. |
| 19:39.54 | Azore2 | Why do you ask? |
| 19:40.21 | nicoli_s | just trying to start some sc2 centered conversation :P |
| 19:40.42 | ekcolnvkol | i was about to start up some religious conversation |
| 19:40.47 | ekcolnvkol | but fien |
| 19:40.49 | ekcolnvkol | :< |
| 19:40.50 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:41.08 | Azore2 | I'm the one that's posted about making a region control map, on the forums - with a 'blood' gameplay influence. |
| 19:41.45 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 19:41.57 | nicoli_s | i cant wait for the beta to come back so ill finally have some time to play some |
| 19:42.04 | nicoli_s | work is finally slowing down on our new secret site |
| 19:42.20 | vjeux | nicoli_s: you still need to do the feature I asked you to! :p |
| 19:42.26 | Azore2 | Any idea when the beta will make a come back? |
| 19:42.32 | nicoli_s | Azore2:i wish |
| 19:43.46 | ekcolnvkol | who's the guy that did the fps with the marine |
| 19:47.05 | nicoli_s | theres prob a few people here who have done fps maps |
| 19:47.12 | ekcolnvkol | no there's this one |
| 19:47.18 | ekcolnvkol | where the marine has a shotgun |
| 19:47.22 | nicoli_s | ~seen skizot |
| 19:47.24 | purl | skizot <~skizot@105-189.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 6h 22m 57s ago, saying: ':D'. |
| 19:47.33 | ekcolnvkol | and a target that expands on fire |
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| 19:48.07 | Azoreo | Anybody willing to help me sort out some Behavior issues? |
| 19:48.42 | ekcolnvkol | you should go to counseling o.o |
| 19:49.03 | Azoreo | This is my GE counseling session :9 |
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| 19:53.31 | gwho | i just saw the final fnatasy map |
| 19:53.32 | gwho | so good |
| 19:53.48 | gwho | and TL is a piece of crap, good for info horrible for socializing |
| 19:54.17 | gwho | don't know why i keep going back to the mire |
| 19:55.07 | nicoli_s | yah its a pretty horribly designed site |
| 19:55.59 | gwho | mods are garbage too |
| 19:59.33 | Azoreo | planet cracked icon... |
| 19:59.36 | Azoreo | *planet cracker icon |
| 19:59.49 | gwho | is anyone doing custom models ? |
| 19:59.57 | gwho | know anyone who has? |
| 20:00.33 | Azoreo | perdition turret icon...nice |
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| 20:08.33 | Azoreo | Hrm...almost got my behavior working... |
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| 20:48.54 | nicoli_s | woot! sc2 comes back second week of july |
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| 20:49.08 | rrowland | I saw "early july" |
| 20:49.11 | rrowland | but source on second week? |
| 20:49.39 | nicoli_s | from my boss |
| 20:49.42 | nicoli_s | or ceo rather |
| 20:49.48 | rrowland | ah |
| 20:49.59 | rrowland | And he gets the blizz memo? :P |
| 20:50.44 | nicoli_s | im sure he just heard it through the grapevine |
| 20:51.01 | rrowland | Ah |
| 20:51.39 | rrowland | Not sure what I'm going to try to prepare for the phase 2 launch still... |
| 20:51.49 | madsquare | somebody up for contructive critcism on a melee map? |
| 20:51.54 | madsquare | http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/4676/terrain009.jpg |
| 20:52.06 | rrowland | Since I've been working on sniper wars for a while but I don't plan on releasing til launch |
| 20:52.16 | nicoli_s | i like it madsquare |
| 20:52.26 | nicoli_s | especially the way you have those cliffs above some of the expansions |
| 20:52.32 | rrowland | Some constructive criticism |
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| 20:52.45 | Azoreo | Sooo...I have an Ability (which launches a behavior which heals a unit) with an Autocast validator. The ability fires as intended, but then...when the unit heals past the validator - shuts itself off. |
| 20:52.47 | rrowland | The tertiary is too close to the main/nat imo |
| 20:52.51 | madsquare | feel free to be honest and detailed :) |
| 20:52.52 | Azoreo | I don't understand why its "Autouncasting" itself. |
| 20:53.37 | rrowland | The ledge above the tertiary doesn't seem native to blizzard's standard melee maps |
| 20:53.44 | rrowland | The ramps being the main cause |
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| 20:54.22 | madsquare | blizzards maps are questionable |
| 20:54.24 | rrowland | The xel naga watch towers seem well-thought-out in their placement |
| 20:54.28 | Azoreo | @Madsquare - with the rocks where you've put them, it'd be easy to photon rush. |
| 20:54.29 | madsquare | most of them are designed for casual |
| 20:54.37 | Azoreo | The defending player would be hard pushed to get to the Pylon below the cliff and destroy it. |
| 20:54.56 | rrowland | I'm referring to BW, WC3 and SC2 maps madsquare |
| 20:55.07 | rrowland | Just the general competitive melee map feel |
| 20:55.38 | madsquare | i was trying something new, a thrid where you have to control high ground to defend it properly |
| 20:55.40 | rrowland | What's the square in the middle? |
| 20:55.44 | Azoreo | It's a nice looking map btw |
| 20:55.52 | rrowland | Just terrain effects? |
| 20:55.56 | madsquare | but i could remove the ramps |
| 20:56.03 | madsquare | just for decoration |
| 20:56.08 | madsquare | <- |
| 20:56.14 | rrowland | :P |
| 20:56.28 | madsquare | other people put pythons and camelions in the middle |
| 20:56.34 | madsquare | i put squares theres |
| 20:56.45 | rrowland | I like that the xel naga watch towers are precise in the area they cover |
| 20:56.50 | Azoreo | I like the ledges above the tertiary - if someone didn't check it out they might get screwed |
| 20:56.55 | Azoreo | little details are nice |
| 20:57.01 | rrowland | Although I think it might be a bit more interesting, and make it riskier to take the high yields |
| 20:57.08 | rrowland | If the watch towers gave vision of them |
| 20:57.18 | Azoreo | Are you going to add any curtains? |
| 20:57.43 | madsquare | curtains? los blockers you mean? |
| 20:58.01 | Azoreo | yeah |
| 20:58.04 | madsquare | the stuff between the forst thingy and the thirds ridge are los blockers |
| 20:58.11 | madsquare | and the idea behind the gold expos was |
| 20:58.19 | rrowland | To me it looks like this map will generally end up in turtles rather than risky high yield expos |
| 20:58.26 | madsquare | ok .. nones ever gonna use the middle expect i make them... gold expos! |
| 20:58.26 | Azoreo | You mean in the middle mad? |
| 20:58.29 | rrowland | Due to how close and easy to defend all of the expos are |
| 20:58.54 | madsquare | the thrid is actually quite far |
| 20:59.04 | Azoreo | Terrain detail is nice - lighter texture making a 'path' to each of the bases |
| 20:59.36 | rrowland | Could use like 70-80 more doodads at least :) |
| 20:59.38 | madsquare | about the turtling |
| 20:59.39 | Azoreo | Map structure seems like it might hamper Zerg creep expansion a little |
| 21:00.00 | madsquare | i actually want it to become a tournament map |
| 21:00.02 | madsquare | bw style |
| 21:00.15 | madsquare | 4+ bases and game end somewhere around 30-04mins |
| 21:00.16 | Azoreo | Anybody have any ideas on why my ability is auto-uncasting itself? |
| 21:00.40 | madsquare | computers dont do anything unless you told them to |
| 21:00.42 | rrowland | Well the distances are extreme it seems |
| 21:00.45 | rrowland | Between bases |
| 21:00.47 | Azoreo | brb, wife. |
| 21:00.50 | madsquare | its possible |
| 21:00.58 | rrowland | So you need to take that into consideration |
| 21:01.00 | madsquare | im thinking about natural - natural |
| 21:01.11 | rrowland | Relative to the distances between bases, the tertiary is very close to the main |
| 21:01.16 | madsquare | because its sooo easy to take the natural |
| 21:01.41 | rrowland | They all fit snugly on less than 1/4 of the map |
| 21:01.45 | rrowland | Tucked away in a corner |
| 21:01.59 | rrowland | No way to harass main/nat from behind due to water |
| 21:02.12 | rrowland | No island expos to watch out for |
| 21:02.29 | rrowland | Just saying, it might prove to be very turtle oriented :P |
| 21:02.48 | madsquare | its somewhat supposed to be that |
| 21:02.57 | rrowland | If that's what you're going for though then good lol |
| 21:02.59 | madsquare | im not too deep into starcraft to be honest |
| 21:03.08 | madsquare | but i saw some of those BW games |
| 21:03.26 | rrowland | Well it's definitely good for someone who isn't into melee then |
| 21:03.31 | madsquare | where theyve been fight for like 20 minutes in the middle while harrassing each other at 2 bases somewhere |
| 21:03.34 | rrowland | The xel naga watch towers specifically |
| 21:03.57 | rrowland | Though on such a large map, maybe 1 or 2 more could be added |
| 21:04.10 | madsquare | ive put a lot of time into thinking about the stuff |
| 21:04.56 | madsquare | im actually unsure about the gold mins and the third |
| 21:05.19 | madsquare | main + nat are supposed to be almost imossible to be taken down |
| 21:05.30 | madsquare | if you want to hold, you can do so |
| 21:05.58 | rrowland | Yeah they look well defended by terrain |
| 21:06.30 | madsquare | now that you mention it, i have to something to the third |
| 21:07.21 | rrowland | Okay okay my turn :P |
| 21:07.31 | madsquare | on the other hand |
| 21:07.36 | madsquare | i really need some testing done |
| 21:07.49 | rrowland | Yeah try it out with other players |
| 21:07.51 | rrowland | And see how it feels |
| 21:08.04 | madsquare | its actually not too close from third natural |
| 21:08.10 | madsquare | the ground distance is huge |
| 21:08.47 | madsquare | actually i just had a pm conversation with some guy named morrow |
| 21:08.54 | rrowland | lol |
| 21:08.57 | rrowland | some guy named morrow |
| 21:09.08 | madsquare | i know who is it now hehe |
| 21:09.12 | madsquare | it = now |
| 21:09.39 | madsquare | i posted a bw remake map and asked for feedback |
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| 21:10.03 | madsquare | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=132500 |
| 21:10.27 | madsquare | and i was like 'ok i got a super idea of the editor so far, ill post some thoughts..' |
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| 21:11.06 | madsquare | didnt turn out too well but as i apolognized i asked for some of his thoughts on my map |
| 21:12.04 | madsquare | so he told me my map isnt better than the crap to be viewed on the forums |
| 21:12.40 | madsquare | i asked why and all i got was i dont have time for that |
| 21:13.35 | rrowland | Well it doesn't look very polished |
| 21:13.41 | madsquare | i was like well. i know im not dumb but i might of course be mistaken. i have to get some feedback right now |
| 21:13.42 | rrowland | But I'll assume it's not done |
| 21:13.46 | madsquare | no |
| 21:13.55 | madsquare | the layout for the first testing is done |
| 21:14.27 | madsquare | ill havent done the doodads yet |
| 21:14.43 | madsquare | exept for flying waterfall isle <3 |
| 21:15.02 | rrowland | lol |
| 21:15.18 | rrowland | Well here's one of the 1v1 melee maps I submitted to blizz as a sample work |
| 21:15.20 | rrowland | http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp30/denaa1/shatteredbasin.png |
| 21:15.37 | madsquare | you applied there? |
| 21:15.43 | rrowland | Yes |
| 21:16.08 | madsquare | and got a response yet? :) |
| 21:16.15 | rrowland | Nah they're slow |
| 21:17.03 | madsquare | :P |
| 21:17.03 | madsquare | well that map looks basic |
| 21:17.05 | madsquare | textures on the islands are nice id say but the water is somewhat empty |
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| 21:17.17 | madsquare | nice idea anyway |
| 21:17.23 | rrowland | There are doodads in the water but they're hard to see from so far |
| 21:17.56 | madsquare | i see |
| 21:17.58 | rrowland | The strategic concepts are what matter most anyhow |
| 21:18.29 | rrowland | Tertiary is hard to defend, high yield even harder |
| 21:18.49 | rrowland | Destructible rocks provide an alternative attack path |
| 21:19.19 | rrowland | The safety of the natural promotes 2-base play |
| 21:19.19 | Azoreo | stupid wide came home : ( |
| 21:19.22 | Azoreo | *wife |
| 21:19.47 | rrowland | The watch tower in the middle is pivotal throughout all stages of the game |
| 21:21.43 | rrowland | Have you messed with my behemoth AI at all? |
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| 21:22.09 | madsquare | me? |
| 21:22.13 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 21:22.24 | madsquare | no |
| 21:22.32 | Azoreo | Were you the one that submitted to Blizz for a design job? |
| 21:22.42 | Azoreo | Nm, just caught up on the text. |
| 21:22.44 | ctccromer | How do you stop units from running away when attacked? |
| 21:22.54 | Azoreo | Damage Response (Flee) - uncheck it? |
| 21:23.07 | Azoreo | Might be on the Actor. |
| 21:23.30 | ctccromer | ohh |
| 21:23.34 | ctccromer | i was lookin at the unit flags |
| 21:23.50 | madsquare | well its time for me. see you tomorrow |
| 21:23.58 | bam_ftw | behavior - response |
| 21:25.07 | Azoreo | Or if you go to the Unit section and find "Response", you can set it to Flee, I think that'd work. |
| 21:26.41 | ctccromer | it was set to Acquire |
| 21:26.46 | ctccromer | i set to no response and it works :) ty |
| 21:26.53 | ctccromer | how do i stop auto-attacking now, then? |
| 21:27.12 | rrowland | Look through the unit editor... |
| 21:27.17 | rrowland | The same page you just changed |
| 21:27.27 | bam_ftw | combat - default acquire level |
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| 21:27.52 | ctccromer | change it to defensive |
| 21:27.54 | ctccromer | ?* |
| 21:28.05 | ctccromer | so then they can still attack with i click (issue order) but not on their own? |
| 21:28.10 | depthsofchaos | anyone good with power sources?:o in my system a building needs 3+1 type of power source where the +1 can be any of the 3 |
| 21:28.14 | depthsofchaos | any idea how to do this :o |
| 21:28.16 | depthsofchaos | in data |
| 21:28.46 | ctccromer | data editor = hella confusing |
| 21:29.22 | depthsofchaos | nah i just cant figure out a good way to do this since power users dont have OR connection |
| 21:29.46 | depthsofchaos | and no validators either :o |
| 21:31.28 | Azoreo | Looking for help with Behavior application. An ability is Auto-casting then Auto-uncasting. |
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| 21:43.32 | Helral | ctccromer: there are user made tutorials about it ;p |
| 21:43.53 | RedWraith | mmm |
| 21:43.57 | Helral | ctccromer: about the data editor that is ;p |
| 21:44.01 | RedWraith | I want to make a player colored sentry |
| 21:44.01 | RedWraith | :O |
| 21:44.11 | RedWraith | since players were complaining teams were hard to identify |
| 21:44.26 | RedWraith | sentry with player colored bubble shield orb& |
| 21:44.28 | RedWraith | err |
| 21:44.30 | RedWraith | bubble orb |
| 21:44.31 | ctccromer | action: set unit property: owner (change color) |
| 21:44.34 | crazyfingers | Here's my best guess as how to do power sources, in order for your building to be "on" create 3 validators that are 3 seperate buffs required to be on the building, each of these buffs will be a different type of power |
| 21:44.38 | RedWraith | thing in its trunk :P |
| 21:44.44 | crazyfingers | not sure off the top of my head how to get the +1 though |
| 21:45.16 | crazyfingers | you could add a secondary buff relayed by the power generators that requires the first buff |
| 21:45.28 | crazyfingers | and then another for the +2 and so on and so on |
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| 21:47.05 | Motive | couldn't you just stack buffs? |
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| 21:47.44 | RedWraith | Are there any tutorials on how to use the lighting editor? |
| 21:48.24 | Helral | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/3938-ordened-overview-of-tutorial-requests/#p3 <-- think that there's a lightning tutorial request handled. |
| 21:48.31 | Helral | just follow the links ;p |
| 21:48.35 | crazyfingers | hmm, you COULD but you'd need a different validator for each +1 type of buff |
| 21:48.52 | crazyfingers | rather than simply having a 4th buff that stacks that would represent all the +1's |
| 21:49.17 | crazyfingers | but having seperate stacks would allow you to have buildings that take multiples of a specific energy type, so in that sense it would probably be better |
| 21:49.42 | depthsofchaos | is it possible to tint an icon?:o |
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| 21:50.54 | onetwo | wayne brady bitch |
| 21:52.51 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k&feature=player_embedded lolol nws kinda |
| 21:54.17 | Hati | there you watch one day kermits octupus garden - and youtube comes up with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7qNjSm650 as recommended :/ |
| 21:54.18 | onetwo | haha rrowland |
| 21:54.23 | onetwo | the children learned a valueable lesson |
| 21:54.23 | onetwo | that day |
| 21:55.12 | rrowland | That's so great |
| 21:56.59 | onetwo | lol you guys reminded me of this hilarious video |
| 21:57.00 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InZNBcJTmWs |
| 21:57.05 | depthsofchaos | ROFL that chimp is creative :o |
| 21:57.20 | rrowland | Rolls over on his back at the beginning |
| 21:57.23 | rrowland | That's the best part |
| 21:57.24 | rrowland | ahaha |
| 21:57.41 | onetwo | the porno industry is like DAMN HOW DIDNT WE THINK OF THIS |
| 21:57.45 | onetwo | outsmarted by a chimp |
| 21:57.46 | rrowland | Or the second shot where he's like |
| 21:57.49 | rrowland | Dipping into it |
| 21:57.50 | rrowland | haha |
| 21:57.53 | rrowland | So great |
| 21:57.58 | rrowland | This monkey watches porn for sure |
| 21:58.09 | crazyfingers | well if we're posting random youtube junk |
| 21:58.11 | crazyfingers | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ |
| 21:58.13 | depthsofchaos | a real mouthfull |
| 21:58.38 | rrowland | Then another chimp comes and he runs away emberassed |
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| 21:58.54 | ctccromer | someone told me earlier V shows doodads correctly and doesnt stretch terrain on cliffs in the editor |
| 21:59.09 | ctccromer | what does it officially do? cuz it also bugs up when in the pathing layer |
| 21:59.27 | ctccromer | had to restart the editor to be able to see pathing again |
| 22:00.07 | onetwo | no idea |
| 22:00.28 | crazyfingers | well according to the view tab it "locks game view settings", whatever that means |
| 22:00.31 | ctccromer | no big deal, just kinda curious |
| 22:00.49 | RedWraith | Is there some way to seriously change the colorization of a unit from within the editor? |
| 22:00.55 | RedWraith | erm |
| 22:00.57 | RedWraith | other than tint |
| 22:01.01 | onetwo | not that i know of |
| 22:01.02 | crazyfingers | perhaps you have some visual settings in the editor that throw things off so this reverts it back to default? |
| 22:01.05 | RedWraith | like, only change part of it. |
| 22:01.07 | onetwo | that requires a photoshoping and overriding of mpq |
| 22:01.19 | depthsofchaos | wraith, teamcolor? |
| 22:01.26 | depthsofchaos | other than that no |
| 22:01.30 | RedWraith | I want sentry orbs to be teamcolor. |
| 22:01.34 | RedWraith | rather than blue |
| 22:01.37 | depthsofchaos | you need custom textures |
| 22:01.38 | RedWraith | blue makes it confusing |
| 22:01.55 | crazyfingers | yeah, you need an alpha channel in the texture where you want team color to show |
| 22:02.03 | RedWraith | Yes, but those do not appear to exist except through mpq modifying. |
| 22:02.10 | ctccromer | also, is there any way to make my map smaller? |
| 22:02.29 | ctccromer | prefferably destroy the terrain outside my dotted yellow line and full blue line? |
| 22:02.30 | depthsofchaos | you just export the sentry one and import your named the same |
| 22:02.33 | crazyfingers | yeah that's easy just go to map> map bounds |
| 22:02.46 | ctccromer | oh, i brought the bounds in |
| 22:02.56 | ekcolnvkol | HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII' |
| 22:02.58 | ctccromer | but does that mean the grayed areas dont exist? |
| 22:02.58 | ekcolnvkol | YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 22:03.04 | crazyfingers | you can adjust the actual size of the map too |
| 22:03.05 | ekcolnvkol | karate kicks himself in the face |
| 22:03.06 | depthsofchaos | it truly stupid how models got the texture path hardcoded :o |
| 22:03.06 | RedWraith | depths, but then how do I apply it |
| 22:03.07 | ctccromer | until i extend the lines gain? |
| 22:03.08 | RedWraith | after I import it? |
| 22:03.10 | ekcolnvkol | WHAT THE FUC |
| 22:03.14 | crazyfingers | yes those grey areas exist, but you can adjust it in the bounds section |
| 22:03.26 | depthsofchaos | it gets applyed automatically |
| 22:03.33 | depthsofchaos | you overwrite the original |
| 22:03.56 | RedWraith | okay, then |
| 22:04.00 | RedWraith | how do I export the original? |
| 22:04.09 | ctccromer | also, is there any way to just drag terrain?.. |
| 22:04.15 | depthsofchaos | from the prewiver |
| 22:04.19 | ctccromer | i could make my map lot smaller if i could lol |
| 22:04.19 | RedWraith | kk |
| 22:04.20 | RedWraith | thank you |
| 22:04.21 | depthsofchaos | viewer |
| 22:04.30 | crazyfingers | yeah i haven't even messed with importing art yet since it's such a pain in the arse, would be great to adjust texture paths |
| 22:04.31 | onetwo | try overriding the mpq |
| 22:04.41 | onetwo | it sure worked for Blayzin |
| 22:04.43 | onetwo | :D |
| 22:04.46 | crazyfingers | well i messed a little bit haha |
| 22:07.01 | ctccromer | where do you edit the actual size of the map? |
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| 22:07.55 | RedWraith | Is there an easy way to add attachment points to a unit? |
| 22:09.22 | crazyfingers | you'd have to export it to max, and there i think you could duplicate attachment points and make new ones |
| 22:09.25 | crazyfingers | not positive though |
| 22:09.43 | crazyfingers | i'm not sure what the attachment points are in max or how they're attached to the model |
| 22:09.58 | crazyfingers | haven't messsed with it muc |
| 22:09.59 | crazyfingers | h |
| 22:10.34 | onetwo | in max theres bones |
| 22:10.40 | onetwo | which attachment points pretty much are |
| 22:10.46 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r100 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (10 files in 2 directories): added form for entering in new gamedata entries |
| 22:10.47 | Muchak | (this irc is awesome, look at all those people helping other people) |
| 22:10.49 | crazyfingers | ahh that makes sense |
| 22:11.03 | nicoli_s | Muchak:its not always like this :P |
| 22:11.09 | onetwo | ctccromer |
| 22:11.17 | onetwo | map->map bounds |
| 22:11.21 | onetwo | and check off modify map bounds |
| 22:11.24 | onetwo | when changing the size |
| 22:11.25 | nicoli_s | sometimes they talk hours on end about whos gayer than the other and how much weed they smoke :P |
| 22:11.29 | onetwo | that way itll change the actual size not just camera |
| 22:11.36 | onetwo | oh i mean |
| 22:11.41 | onetwo | stfu we dont help people here mr cromer |
| 22:11.43 | onetwo | thats more like it |
| 22:11.47 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 22:11.52 | nicoli_s | later fellas |
| 22:11.56 | onetwo | bye nic |
| 22:12.01 | onetwo | oli_s |
| 22:12.24 | crazyfingers | yeah, but it's those guys who makes the best maps ;) |
| 22:12.33 | onetwo | are the ads new |
| 22:12.36 | onetwo | on sc2mapster.com |
| 22:13.08 | ctccromer | onetwo: i did that. the yellow (dashed) and blue (solid) lines arearound smaller areas, but the grayed parts are still there in the terrain editor |
| 22:13.25 | onetwo | weird |
| 22:13.28 | onetwo | maybe close and reload it |
| 22:15.35 | ctccromer | nope its still there |
| 22:15.46 | ctccromer | want me to upload the map real quick? |
| 22:16.00 | ctccromer | i was about to anyway. I finished a lot of work and it's about time to upload a new version |
| 22:16.52 | RedWraith | Is there some way to attach a model to a unit with an offset? |
| 22:16.56 | RedWraith | That would be fine for me. |
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| 22:19.17 | onetwo | i dont really know what the issue is ctccromer |
| 22:19.24 | onetwo | you make a map like 256x256 |
| 22:19.27 | onetwo | you go to map->map bounds |
| 22:19.30 | onetwo | you check modify map bounds |
| 22:19.35 | onetwo | you press arrow buttons to make it smaller |
| 22:19.37 | onetwo | you press ok |
| 22:19.39 | onetwo | it changes it |
| 22:19.40 | onetwo | done |
| 22:19.45 | onetwo | where is the error happening? |
| 22:20.08 | onetwo | RedWraith |
| 22:20.14 | onetwo | you can attach a point with an offset i thought |
| 22:20.15 | onetwo | or maybe not |
| 22:20.20 | onetwo | just attach the model to the unit |
| 22:20.25 | onetwo | or actor |
| 22:20.28 | onetwo | and make an event in that actor |
| 22:20.30 | ctccromer | ohh.. i thought you said UNCHECK modify map bounds |
| 22:20.31 | onetwo | for when its created |
| 22:20.33 | onetwo | to set its height |
| 22:20.33 | ctccromer | my bad... lol sorry |
| 22:20.35 | onetwo | to + w/e |
| 22:20.39 | onetwo | oh haha |
| 22:20.47 | RedWraith | wait, I can move the model's relative position? |
| 22:20.54 | onetwo | not sure |
| 22:20.59 | onetwo | you can do height probably |
| 22:21.00 | onetwo | thought |
| 22:21.02 | onetwo | though* |
| 22:21.25 | RedWraith | I actually want it to be a little bit back. |
| 22:21.48 | RedWraith | There's only three attachment points for the sentry and none of them are on the center of the orb. |
| 22:27.17 | crazyfingers | the orb is probably an attachment itself |
| 22:29.35 | Muchak | I know I can change the "hue" of doodads in the mapeditor (something to do with HDR lightning). Can I change it with a trigger (on an event) somehow? anyhow? |
| 22:30.42 | Muchak | it kinda makes sense it's possible, but I've spend an hour now on trying to make a doodad colour blue when a blue unit aproaches it |
| 22:32.11 | onetwo | you could do that using set tint color |
| 22:32.14 | onetwo | you can send actor messages |
| 22:32.20 | onetwo | such as set tint color |
| 22:32.21 | onetwo | set height |
| 22:32.24 | onetwo | in triggers |
| 22:32.30 | onetwo | just need to know the syntax |
| 22:32.31 | onetwo | which i dont |
| 22:32.51 | Muchak | I've gone all over them, I really didn't see a tint color in there anywhere |
| 22:33.04 | Muchak | I did find 'animation for doodad' whatever that does |
| 22:33.13 | onetwo | its not an action |
| 22:33.21 | onetwo | you use the action of send actor message |
| 22:33.22 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 22:33.28 | onetwo | and then youd have to know the text combo |
| 22:33.37 | onetwo | like SetTintColor(X,..) |
| 22:33.40 | onetwo | w/e the syntax is |
| 22:33.42 | onetwo | im going off of memory |
| 22:34.07 | onetwo | the last option is you make an invisible unit on the doodad |
| 22:34.13 | onetwo | with a buff behavior |
| 22:34.17 | onetwo | that searches around the unit |
| 22:34.23 | onetwo | and gives another buff to any nearby units |
| 22:34.37 | onetwo | then on the blue-turning unit's actor, make an actor event of it receives the buff |
| 22:34.41 | onetwo | and make it set tint color |
| 22:35.12 | Muchak | is there a list of all the syntax somewhere? |
| 22:35.17 | onetwo | not that i know of |
| 22:35.21 | onetwo | someone here was doing actor messages before |
| 22:35.23 | onetwo | but i dont remmeber |
| 22:35.56 | Muchak | I have no idea how that works, I guess I'm gonna be at it all night :p |
| 22:36.55 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:37.01 | ProzaicMuze | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.43 | Muchak | all I want to do is change the colour of a doodad when a unit aproaches it, nothing more or less |
| 22:38.07 | ProzaicMuze | I was talkin' about Red's issue, but changing the color can be done with color tint |
| 22:38.43 | ProzaicMuze | You'll need to make an actor for the doodad in question and add an event that changes color whenever a unit reaches X distane from it |
| 22:40.03 | Muchak | there's something as "set doodad color tint to XXX" ? |
| 22:40.32 | Muchak | god, I've must have looked over it, I went through frikkin every paramter |
| 22:41.19 | ProzaicMuze | not doodad, actor |
| 22:41.28 | ProzaicMuze | You need to make an actor for your doodad model |
| 22:41.34 | ProzaicMuze | And add an actor event to it |
| 22:42.00 | Azoreo | Blowing ma vuvuzela |
| 22:42.04 | Muchak | hmm, never done that before... ok ok, I'll find out how that works, thanks a million |
| 22:42.16 | ProzaicMuze | I can guide you through it if you want |
| 22:42.28 | Azoreo | Make us a Chain Lightning video tutorial Prozaic. |
| 22:42.36 | Muchak | that would be generous :p |
| 22:42.58 | ProzaicMuze | don't have video capture program Azoreo :( but I've got the two written tutorials :D |
| 22:43.14 | Azoreo | I enjoyed it, pretty badass :) |
| 22:43.14 | ProzaicMuze | Muchak, did you give the doodad a unique model? |
| 22:43.40 | Muchak | it's just the square terran tarmac doodad |
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| 22:43.59 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, duplicate the model and rename it. |
| 22:44.02 | xXm0RpH3usXx | whaazzzuup? |
| 22:44.16 | ProzaicMuze | For our purposes it's a good idea to use a dupe in case you need the original for something else later |
| 22:44.30 | Muchak | yeah, I'll need multiple, so I'm doing that |
| 22:44.32 | RedWraith | I'm just so confused why we can't just attach to any bone: we have to attach to the ones specified as attachment points. |
| 22:44.36 | RedWraith | Makes me sadface. |
| 22:44.48 | ProzaicMuze | RedWraith, read up, I can solve your problem ;) |
| 22:44.50 | onetwo | Prozaic make me a chain lightning that explodes fire to each nearby unit and freezes every 2nd unit with 4.0 radius for 5-10 seconds and then if a unit dies it goes to a burrowed form and then erupts from the ground as a spirit which is controllable for 2.5 secs and has a thorns aura that spread on units it hits like a disease |
| 22:45.09 | ProzaicMuze | @onetwo I can do that. |
| 22:45.14 | onetwo | and it needs to be castable but autocast and on aura |
| 22:45.16 | onetwo | at the same time |
| 22:45.21 | Muchak | lol |
| 22:45.28 | ProzaicMuze | err. .. that part I have no idea about lol |
| 22:45.39 | onetwo | WELL FIGURE IT OUT AND HAVE IT ON MY DESK BY FRIDAY |
| 22:45.43 | onetwo | OR YOURE FIRED |
| 22:45.44 | ProzaicMuze | cries! |
| 22:45.51 | onetwo | stop crying mcfly |
| 22:45.52 | xXm0RpH3usXx | DONT YELL |
| 22:45.55 | onetwo | are you a chicken |
| 22:46.10 | onetwo | no but seriously dont actually attempt that |
| 22:46.16 | onetwo | it has no feasible use |
| 22:46.41 | ProzaicMuze | @Muchak once you have the models, make an actor for each one with Actor Type: Model and Based On: ModelAnimationStyleOneShot |
| 22:46.49 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, that'd be one messed up ability |
| 22:47.10 | ProzaicMuze | but I won't make it anyway, I'm working on an in depth attachment tutorial so that you can attach one model to another pretty much anywhere you want. |
| 22:47.18 | Muchak | kk |
| 22:47.18 | onetwo | nice |
| 22:47.21 | Alpha_vst | so i just read in korea a version of the game supports lan 0.o |
| 22:47.24 | Alpha_vst | wow |
| 22:47.30 | Azoreo | Wha |
| 22:47.40 | Alpha_vst | http://kotaku.com/5571473/korea-actually-gets-a-starcraft-ii-jumbo-jet |
| 22:47.40 | Azoreo | Negatory. |
| 22:47.41 | xXm0RpH3usXx | probably you can break it alpha^^ |
| 22:47.42 | ProzaicMuze | @Alpha probably because they already hacked it? They are that mad? |
| 22:47.54 | onetwo | lol i got a comment on my youtube to stop pursing my lips in tutorials and to pronounce melee as maylay |
| 22:47.59 | onetwo | but i personally think maylay sounds retarded |
| 22:48.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:48.03 | RedWraith | You can pretty much attach a unit to another unit at any angle/point you want |
| 22:48.05 | RedWraith | oddly specific there |
| 22:48.06 | RedWraith | :P |
| 22:48.11 | onetwo | i look forward to that tutorial redwraith |
| 22:48.12 | ProzaicMuze | well, maylay is the correct way to pronounce it |
| 22:48.13 | onetwo | err |
| 22:48.14 | onetwo | prozaic |
| 22:48.17 | onetwo | my brain fried |
| 22:48.18 | Azoreo | Wow. |
| 22:48.25 | Muchak | k, done |
| 22:48.27 | Azoreo | Only in a "professional edition" |
| 22:48.30 | Azoreo | I wonder how much that'll cost. |
| 22:48.44 | onetwo | more than the professional suit you can get at mens wearhouse |
| 22:48.45 | onetwo | thats for sure |
| 22:48.52 | onetwo | youre gonna like the way you look |
| 22:48.56 | Azoreo | Lol |
| 22:48.58 | ProzaicMuze | But it's true RedWraith, you just have to inch/nudge it around until you got it where you want |
| 22:48.59 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:49.01 | Azoreo | You're gonna like the way you LAN. |
| 22:49.32 | RedWraith | ProzaicMuze, I mean |
| 22:49.35 | RedWraith | how do I do that? :P |
| 22:49.42 | RedWraith | I'd be fine with that. That'd be great for me. |
| 22:49.43 | ProzaicMuze | @Muchak I don't know how exactly you want to trigger the "change a color," but under the actor's events, when you add the event that triggers it, have it do the action: "Set Tint Color" |
| 22:49.51 | RedWraith | I just want to be able to to move it back a little bit. |
| 22:50.02 | onetwo | redwraith |
| 22:50.11 | ProzaicMuze | RedWraith, do you know how to make actors? |
| 22:50.19 | onetwo | do you need it to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajmI1P3r1w4 a little bit? |
| 22:50.20 | RedWraith | nope |
| 22:50.24 | onetwo | oh |
| 22:50.28 | Azoreo | OH MY GOD I HATE MY WIFE. She's making me leave the house. |
| 22:50.38 | ProzaicMuze | ha? |
| 22:50.41 | RedWraith | onetwo, indeed. |
| 22:50.44 | Azoreo | I have to go get dinner. |
| 22:50.47 | RedWraith | I'll look into making an actor. |
| 22:50.47 | Azoreo | Insufferable woman. |
| 22:50.49 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith well then you're screwed. You'll never succeed |
| 22:50.49 | onetwo | ah well now were talking the same language |
| 22:50.50 | RedWraith | with the displacement. |
| 22:51.21 | RedWraith | ProzaicMuze, I have an incredible talent for being able to learn anything instantly provided information in the proper form. :P |
| 22:51.31 | ProzaicMuze | @#Muchak, did that make sense? |
| 22:51.44 | RedWraith | However, the data editor confuses me endlessly because it's written so backward. |
| 22:52.02 | Muchak | yes, I think I got it now, thanks a billion prozaic, I'll make sure I'll put you in some credits somewhere :p |
| 22:52.26 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith lol I doubt that. . . but I'm a catalyst for learning, so open up the actors tab and create a new actor with Actor Type: Site Operation (Local Offset) |
| 22:52.30 | ProzaicMuze | np Muchak :) |
| 22:53.00 | ProzaicMuze | If it still isn't working as desired, let me know. |
| 22:53.11 | ProzaicMuze | If I'm not online at the time, just shoot me a PM on mapster |
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| 22:53.53 | RedWraith | Site Operation, alright. |
| 22:54.05 | RedWraith | I got the rest down. |
| 22:54.06 | RedWraith | err |
| 22:54.09 | RedWraith | if it's there |
| 22:54.25 | RedWraith | kk |
| 22:54.29 | RedWraith | Site Operation (Attachment) |
| 22:54.33 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith you can set the Local Offset to (0.0, any positive number you need, 0.0) and that will move it closer to the center. If it's not the direction you wanted, use negative numbers |
| 22:54.50 | ProzaicMuze | Nope, you want Site Operation (Local Offset) |
| 22:55.17 | onetwo | shit |
| 22:55.20 | onetwo | prozaic lays the smackdown |
| 22:55.22 | onetwo | damnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 22:55.23 | ProzaicMuze | there are a bunch of different Site Operations, attachment is if you want to move it to one of the 3 attachments point |
| 22:55.30 | ProzaicMuze | is boss, don't mess! |
| 22:55.34 | RedWraith | ugh, I need to make an Actor - Model for the sphere first, I take it? |
| 22:55.47 | ProzaicMuze | nope, it already has one |
| 22:55.51 | RedWraith | since there doesn't seem to be a Model data field |
| 22:55.52 | RedWraith | oh, good. |
| 22:56.07 | ProzaicMuze | Unless you want a custom sphere, you're just going to plug the Site Operation into the current model's actor |
| 22:56.37 | onetwo | dont forget to disable the mpq override switch |
| 22:56.39 | RedWraith | The sphere is entirely unit color, and spherical, so it's really quite appropriate for the back of the sentry. |
| 22:56.42 | onetwo | of the sphere wont be in your control |
| 22:57.14 | RedWraith | there it is |
| 22:57.18 | RedWraith | Actor - Local Offset |
| 22:57.31 | ProzaicMuze | mmhmm |
| 22:57.48 | ProzaicMuze | you will probably have to fiddle with that, but get your first distance guess in there |
| 22:57.48 | RedWraith | What field do I put the original actor in, though? |
| 22:58.01 | ProzaicMuze | just a hint, 0.01-05 is usually enough of a nudge |
| 22:58.05 | ProzaicMuze | No where |
| 22:58.15 | ProzaicMuze | You're going to but the Site Operation on the sphere's actor |
| 22:58.16 | RedWraith | uh...then how does it know it's a sphere? :P |
| 22:58.23 | ProzaicMuze | but = put |
| 22:58.36 | RedWraith | and how do I go about that? |
| 22:58.54 | RedWraith | is there some field on the sphere's actor? |
| 22:58.55 | ProzaicMuze | I'll finish telling you when you finish making the current actor :) |
| 22:59.19 | RedWraith | displacement done |
| 22:59.30 | RedWraith | anything else need to be declared here? |
| 22:59.33 | ProzaicMuze | not atm |
| 22:59.45 | ProzaicMuze | Did you change the name of anything about the sentry? Like its ability? |
| 23:00.02 | RedWraith | this is a test one, I'll do the real one after. |
| 23:00.09 | RedWraith | since I'll need to do it to two units |
| 23:00.14 | RedWraith | and will be making some other ones |
| 23:00.23 | Azoreo | Anybody willing to help me with an Ability/Behavior problem I'm having? |
| 23:00.30 | RedWraith | I've been meaning to make phoenix crowns for the sentries, but needed a method for displacement. |
| 23:00.43 | RedWraith | not all the sentries, of course |
| 23:00.48 | RedWraith | just ones owned by people I like |
| 23:00.48 | RedWraith | ;) |
| 23:00.59 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:01.01 | onetwo | lol i like this post on bnet sc2 forums |
| 23:01.02 | onetwo | Now that I have over 10,000 cd keys to post on, I can, Without fear or regret, announce my stance on the matter: I like this stuff Clan Iraq posts. It gives the game more life behind it. A clan that says this with meaning, rather than emotion that nobody else can detect. Truly, he is a human that has played video games before the death knight in WoW was introduced. |
| 23:01.33 | ProzaicMuze | Find the actor "Guardian Shield (Unnamed) |
| 23:01.56 | RedWraith | Guardian Shield? But this is on the disruptor. |
| 23:02.07 | RedWraith | It's replacing the sentry's orb. |
| 23:02.07 | RedWraith | :P |
| 23:02.28 | RedWraith | Though, that is an interesting proposition. I think a cascading shield effect would look badass. |
| 23:02.30 | ProzaicMuze | Disruptor? |
| 23:02.35 | RedWraith | Yes. |
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| 23:02.40 | ProzaicMuze | wtf is a disruptor? |
| 23:02.46 | RedWraith | Sentry. |
| 23:02.49 | Alpha_vst | the thing before sentry |
| 23:02.54 | Alpha_vst | well teh name |
| 23:02.55 | RedWraith | The thing the sentry really is. |
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| 23:02.59 | ProzaicMuze | Ah, mmk |
| 23:03.07 | RedWraith | The name of the sentry in half of its data editor entries, including the actor. |
| 23:03.25 | Alpha_vst | yeah cause they where to lazy to make a whole new unit lol |
| 23:03.37 | ProzaicMuze | Ok, well you want the shield it shoots up to move where it is centered, right? |
| 23:03.38 | onetwo | disruptor |
| 23:04.01 | RedWraith | No. I want the orb on its back to be colored, like the sphere. |
| 23:04.06 | RedWraith | The sphere model is playercolored. |
| 23:04.18 | Alpha_vst | might be a model thing |
| 23:04.23 | RedWraith | The orb model is not. I want a sphere to be on the sentry's back. |
| 23:04.30 | RedWraith | The sphere disappears |
| 23:04.32 | RedWraith | err |
| 23:04.32 | RedWraith | orb |
| 23:04.35 | RedWraith | when a sphere surrounds it |
| 23:04.38 | RedWraith | so, it's fine either way |
| 23:04.44 | Alpha_vst | confusing :P |
| 23:04.56 | RedWraith | I just need to know how to put a displaced sphere on its back. |
| 23:05.00 | RedWraith | a little bit behind its center |
| 23:05.19 | xXm0RpH3usXx | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I need a concepter! please! I already have almost 7 sheets of conepts drawn down, but i need more as i am planning a pack with models that base on eachother.. i have no creativity in my brainz any more -.-' |
| 23:05.21 | xXm0RpH3usXx | help? |
| 23:05.30 | ProzaicMuze | oh,so you want to put your OWN sphere model into that sphere's place when it disappears? |
| 23:05.48 | onetwo | conceptor |
| 23:05.52 | onetwo | you need one? |
| 23:05.59 | onetwo | get rrowland to build an AI to make a conceptor |
| 23:06.00 | onetwo | for you |
| 23:06.01 | xXm0RpH3usXx | well basically someone with brainz |
| 23:06.06 | ProzaicMuze | has uber brainz |
| 23:06.07 | xXm0RpH3usXx | who can openly discuss |
| 23:06.09 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and has ideas |
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| 23:06.20 | Azoreo | Well hello Toggle Flag. |
| 23:06.23 | xXm0RpH3usXx | wait |
| 23:06.25 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i'll link |
| 23:07.01 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith is this a custom model that you've made and want to have create whenever the sentry is created in the offset position? |
| 23:07.03 | RedWraith | ProzaicMuze, there's a sphere in the back of the sentry model. |
| 23:07.09 | ProzaicMuze | yes, a glowly thing |
| 23:07.13 | RedWraith | If I place the normal sphere model |
| 23:07.13 | ProzaicMuze | it poofs when the shield goes up |
| 23:07.14 | RedWraith | on top of it |
| 23:07.16 | RedWraith | it disappears |
| 23:07.22 | RedWraith | so, I want to put the normal sphere there |
| 23:07.26 | RedWraith | and replace it |
| 23:07.36 | xXm0RpH3usXx | look at these: http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=88047 http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=90720 http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=89524 |
| 23:07.41 | xXm0RpH3usXx | these are my babies |
| 23:07.46 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i wanna recreate them for sc2 |
| 23:07.51 | xXm0RpH3usXx | but a lot more versatile |
| 23:07.52 | RedWraith | Imagine there's no sphere on the back of the disruptor and I want to put one there. :P |
| 23:07.57 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and with a lot more variations |
| 23:08.04 | RedWraith | Because that's pretty much what it is. The original will disappear. |
| 23:08.11 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and i am running out of ideas |
| 23:08.18 | xXm0RpH3usXx | especially with the roof |
| 23:08.39 | xXm0RpH3usXx | as i cant decide what models i need |
| 23:08.43 | Muchak | do you want to become a SC2 modeller or sticking with WC3? |
| 23:08.47 | xXm0RpH3usXx | to make it as flexible as possible |
| 23:09.00 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i want to do these with normal maps and so on |
| 23:09.06 | xXm0RpH3usXx | so they will be exportable for sc2 |
| 23:09.14 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, then do you have an actor for this replacement sphere? |
| 23:09.17 | xXm0RpH3usXx | though it doesnt need to be exclusivly for sc2 |
| 23:09.39 | Muchak | it's not easy to port from fantasy to sci-fi if you ask me |
| 23:09.51 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i am not aiming for scifi |
| 23:09.56 | xXm0RpH3usXx | never said that :P |
| 23:10.01 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i dislike the sc2 lore |
| 23:10.04 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and i dislike the models |
| 23:10.12 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i am only interested in modding |
| 23:10.22 | RedWraith | It's just the sphere actor. |
| 23:10.22 | xXm0RpH3usXx | filling a blank map with my own content |
| 23:10.24 | RedWraith | And yes. |
| 23:10.24 | RedWraith | I do. |
| 23:10.26 | xXm0RpH3usXx | playing god if u will |
| 23:10.34 | xXm0RpH3usXx | ^^ |
| 23:10.42 | RedWraith | I just need to attach one to the other. :) |
| 23:11.07 | xXm0RpH3usXx | so yeah, anybody in with helping finding ideas and ways to accomplish these? |
| 23:11.33 | onetwo | got too much of my own work |
| 23:11.41 | onetwo | theres usually 2 types of people on irc |
| 23:11.43 | Muchak | you should make a post on SC2mapster on the forums |
| 23:11.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster Glynn (45b33692@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.179.54.146) |
| 23:11.52 | onetwo | people who dont talk and are insanely busy making their own first person shooter maps |
| 23:11.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster IDentity (~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 23:11.56 | IDentity | @RedWraith, did you make an actor for your replacement sphere? |
| 23:11.57 | onetwo | or people who need help |
| 23:11.59 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:12.09 | IDentity | wtf |
| 23:12.18 | IDentity | gah, I must've D/Ced |
| 23:12.21 | Azoreo | So...I have an Ability that will trigger fine - until my unit has attacked another unit. Then the ability no longer works. |
| 23:12.21 | IDentity | it's Prozaic |
| 23:12.25 | Alpha_vst | lol onetwo |
| 23:12.35 | RedWraith | Yes. |
| 23:12.36 | Alpha_vst | my mapo isnt a FPS :( |
| 23:12.37 | RedWraith | I did make it. |
| 23:12.38 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i am neither of both |
| 23:12.42 | xXm0RpH3usXx | do i have to go now? |
| 23:12.45 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 23:12.46 | Alpha_vst | bye |
| 23:12.47 | IDentity | @RedWraith then go to THAT actor lol |
| 23:12.51 | onetwo | well theres the 3rd category |
| 23:12.53 | onetwo | the rare one |
| 23:13.00 | onetwo | people who talk and are doing semi complex projects |
| 23:13.00 | xXm0RpH3usXx | *im special* |
| 23:13.01 | onetwo | me, alpha |
| 23:13.03 | onetwo | prozaic |
| 23:13.05 | onetwo | etc |
| 23:13.06 | Azoreo | Any idea why an Ability which Autocasts and imparts a Behavior might NOT be usable if your unit has previously attacked another? |
| 23:13.13 | onetwo | no idea :( |
| 23:13.27 | xXm0RpH3usXx | ask your wife |
| 23:13.42 | IDentity | @Azoreo, what is the behavior? There are a few reasons why this might happen |
| 23:14.04 | Alpha_vst | what with all the new people :P |
| 23:14.11 | onetwo | these new ads on sc2mapster are funny |
| 23:14.13 | Azoreo | The Behavior disables 3 things: Attack/Turret/Weapon, and also increases health regen to +2 |
| 23:14.21 | onetwo | should i click them so sixen gets money... OH WAIT THATS ILLEGAL |
| 23:14.26 | onetwo | i have to genuinely interested in the ad |
| 23:14.34 | xXm0RpH3usXx | whats your semi complex thing onetwo? analyszing people and writing a list about them?^^ |
| 23:14.34 | Azoreo | When the Behavior is negated (Validator negates it) --- the unit is allowed to attack again. |
| 23:14.47 | onetwo | im making an rpg that will BLOW your mind |
| 23:14.49 | onetwo | sexually and visually |
| 23:14.51 | onetwo | and gameplay wise |
| 23:14.57 | onetwo | and im setting myself up |
| 23:14.58 | onetwo | for failure |
| 23:14.58 | slightlyrandom | I'd rather it blew me |
| 23:15.00 | onetwo | its gonna be great |
| 23:15.01 | xXm0RpH3usXx | ah, youre one of THOSE noobs |
| 23:15.02 | xXm0RpH3usXx | XD |
| 23:15.03 | IDentity | @RedWraith change the following on your sphere's actor. First, set Host + to _Unit in the subject bar by clicking on alias |
| 23:15.12 | Alpha_vst | arnt we all onetwo :P |
| 23:15.33 | IDentity | @Azoreo why kind of behavior is it? |
| 23:15.39 | xXm0RpH3usXx | u dont believe how often i heard that onetwo |
| 23:15.47 | xXm0RpH3usXx | really often |
| 23:15.48 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i mean |
| 23:15.50 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:15.51 | slightlyrandom | Adds on the web? Thats so 2005 |
| 23:15.54 | xXm0RpH3usXx | too often to believe it anymore |
| 23:16.00 | onetwo | YOUR |
| 23:16.01 | onetwo | D |
| 23:16.02 | onetwo | BLOW |
| 23:16.02 | onetwo | MIND* |
| 23:16.13 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i had tons of these maps too |
| 23:16.17 | xXm0RpH3usXx | they blew my mind |
| 23:16.18 | Azoreo | It's a Buff |
| 23:16.24 | xXm0RpH3usXx | when i imagined how cool it would be |
| 23:16.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:16.35 | RedWraith | Prozaic, done. |
| 23:16.40 | xXm0RpH3usXx | but they somehow got stuck there |
| 23:16.40 | Azoreo | It "extends" sight range (-8) and makes the unit Untargetable. |
| 23:16.42 | IDentity | @RedWraith then set Host Site Operations + to "SOpAttachCenter" [single space] "Whatever the name of your custom Site Op is" |
| 23:16.46 | Azoreo | But again - all that disappears when the Behavior dies off. |
| 23:17.03 | Azoreo | If the unit is damaged, the Behavior works fine. If the unit damaged again, works fine, and again, and again. |
| 23:17.11 | Azoreo | Only if the unit attacks something else, then the Ability/Behavior will NOT trigger. |
| 23:17.29 | xXm0RpH3usXx | so now blow me onetwo |
| 23:17.34 | IDentity | @Azoreo so right now your buff is applied, it regens and then when it's turned off your unit can't attack, but other units can attack it which in turn allows it to start attacking? |
| 23:17.42 | xXm0RpH3usXx | !!!!!!!!! link me to your hyper map! |
| 23:17.58 | RedWraith | Prozaic, the thing after the single space |
| 23:17.58 | onetwo | trying to get it more done for phase 2 :D |
| 23:18.00 | RedWraith | doesn't stay. |
| 23:18.01 | onetwo | its too unfinished atm |
| 23:18.06 | onetwo | 3 heroes need to be done |
| 23:18.10 | onetwo | at the least |
| 23:18.19 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith you have to set it to the exact name of the Site Operation you created. |
| 23:18.31 | xXm0RpH3usXx | so u are using ingame models? |
| 23:18.33 | Azoreo | @Identity - When the unit's health drops below a certain level, it auto-casts an ability with applies a Behavior. The Behavior basically disables the unit (attack, sight, etc) and applies a health regen (+2). |
| 23:18.38 | xXm0RpH3usXx | then its DEFINATLY not going to blow me |
| 23:18.47 | Azoreo | @Identity - The behavior works perfectly, UNLESS the unit attacks another unit. |
| 23:18.54 | xXm0RpH3usXx | because i'm a visual guy |
| 23:18.59 | xXm0RpH3usXx | gimme eye candy!!!! |
| 23:19.00 | Azoreo | @Identity - I can use the behavior as intended UNTIL I attack another unit, then it no longer works. |
| 23:19.02 | RedWraith | k |
| 23:19.03 | RedWraith | done |
| 23:19.11 | ProzaicMuze | @Azoreo then it stops working while it's attacking or it stops working until you stop attacking? |
| 23:19.16 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/3904-the-people-of-sc2mapster-irc/#p1 |
| 23:19.17 | onetwo | youve been added |
| 23:19.19 | onetwo | morpheus |
| 23:19.33 | xXm0RpH3usXx | >.< |
| 23:19.39 | xXm0RpH3usXx | thank you very much indeed |
| 23:19.41 | Azoreo | @Prozaic - it stops working at all. |
| 23:20.07 | RedWraith | Prozaic, it's done. |
| 23:20.13 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:20.14 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i really thought about it long |
| 23:20.22 | xXm0RpH3usXx | if i should actually talk with u at all |
| 23:20.24 | onetwo | ill link one image from my rpg |
| 23:20.33 | onetwo | too bad morpheus |
| 23:20.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustyy (ad37f696@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.55.246.150) |
| 23:20.34 | onetwo | youre in now |
| 23:20.35 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i regret having not decided against it |
| 23:20.37 | xXm0RpH3usXx | >.< |
| 23:20.45 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith, you got the 2nd Site Op to stay? |
| 23:20.46 | xXm0RpH3usXx | :P |
| 23:21.23 | ProzaicMuze | @Azoreo, are you willing to toss me your map? I can take a look at it. I have a few ideas, but it would be faster if I can see which one is the likely fix |
| 23:21.42 | Azoreo | Sure |
| 23:21.51 | ProzaicMuze | use wiki upload and then toss me a link :) |
| 23:21.59 | Azoreo | Hang on |
| 23:22.00 | xXm0RpH3usXx | u r in there now, too azoreo |
| 23:22.02 | RedWraith | I have. |
| 23:22.10 | ProzaicMuze | I'm still not in there :( |
| 23:22.12 | Azoreo | In? |
| 23:22.16 | Azoreo | Wiki? |
| 23:22.24 | Azoreo | Because I'm so devilishly handsome? |
| 23:22.25 | xXm0RpH3usXx | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/3904-the-people-of-sc2mapster-irc/#p1 |
| 23:22.25 | RedWraith | I've gotten the second one to stay, ProzaicMuze. |
| 23:22.32 | Azoreo | Also good. |
| 23:22.33 | ProzaicMuze | says something horribly embarrasing worthy of being in onetwo's loonybin! |
| 23:22.43 | xXm0RpH3usXx | no, becuz ur rude to ur wife XD |
| 23:22.56 | ProzaicMuze | @Azoreo it's just an upload place. It's really fast and easy for this kind of thing |
| 23:22.59 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:23.03 | Alpha_vst | jsut be like me |
| 23:23.07 | xXm0RpH3usXx | tell him you like buttsecks |
| 23:23.19 | xXm0RpH3usXx | with midgets |
| 23:23.25 | xXm0RpH3usXx | in public |
| 23:23.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mokse (42be09ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.190.9.171) |
| 23:23.29 | onetwo | http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2460/desv.jpg |
| 23:23.30 | onetwo | there |
| 23:23.34 | onetwo | some mobs and a roach miniboss |
| 23:23.48 | xXm0RpH3usXx | WHOAAAAAAAAAA THAT BLOWS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:23.48 | Azoreo | yeah, uploading it now |
| 23:23.49 | Alpha_vst | colrofull |
| 23:23.50 | xXm0RpH3usXx | not |
| 23:24.00 | Triceron | what doodad is that in the middle? |
| 23:24.12 | Alpha_vst | status head |
| 23:24.16 | Alpha_vst | statue |
| 23:24.29 | onetwo | i go insane with color |
| 23:24.30 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith open up the actor's events and add the following events: Actor Creation (Animation Play - Name: Attach; Animation Properties: Stand; Flags: Play Forever) |
| 23:24.30 | Azoreo | PMed, let me know if it doesn't work. |
| 23:24.31 | onetwo | itll be outdated soon |
| 23:24.33 | Triceron | oh that's a head? |
| 23:24.42 | Triceron | I thought it was like a crashed ship but it didn't look like a ship inside |
| 23:24.53 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:25.05 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith next event: UnitBirth-Disruptor > Create. |
| 23:25.06 | Azoreo | @xXm - I'm rude to my wife because I love her, see/ |
| 23:25.16 | Triceron | you know what it needs onetwo? |
| 23:25.16 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith next event: UnitDeath - Disruptor > Destroy |
| 23:25.22 | Triceron | paper zombies |
| 23:25.25 | xXm0RpH3usXx | its not my business! |
| 23:25.32 | Azoreo | @Prozaic - disclaimer, I'm relatively new to mapping, don't judge harshly please. |
| 23:26.14 | ProzaicMuze | I've provided fixes for a large number of people in this chat room, no worries ;) |
| 23:26.26 | onetwo | he fixed my life |
| 23:26.27 | onetwo | my wife |
| 23:26.29 | onetwo | and my map |
| 23:26.34 | onetwo | i am greatful forever |
| 23:26.53 | Muchak | :p |
| 23:27.17 | ProzaicMuze | @RedWraith all that make sense so far? |
| 23:27.26 | RedWraith | ProzaicMuze, do you mean Stand Up? |
| 23:27.32 | Alpha_vst | Triceron FUCK YOU |
| 23:27.39 | xXm0RpH3usXx | lol |
| 23:28.05 | onetwo | man alpha is a quote machine |
| 23:28.07 | xXm0RpH3usXx | what'D he do? |
| 23:28.08 | onetwo | if only his wasnt so long already |
| 23:28.18 | onetwo | his penis that is |
| 23:28.20 | onetwo | and also his quote box |
| 23:28.22 | Alpha_vst | I CAN FILL A WHOLE FUCKING PAGE |
| 23:28.25 | ProzaicMuze | No, I mean the actual animation stand. Each model has 1+ animations and typically "Stand" is the main animation. |
| 23:29.04 | Triceron | haha |
| 23:29.06 | Alpha_vst | ANd yeah onetwo how did you know i wasnt talking about quotes scary |
| 23:29.53 | onetwo | they dont call me god for nothing |
| 23:30.32 | RedWraith | ProzaicMuze, I am quite confused by this, as that does not seem to be listed as an animation property. |
| 23:31.00 | RedWraith | how about |
| 23:31.04 | RedWraith | Stand (Global Loop)? |
| 23:32.20 | RedWraith | OH |
| 23:32.21 | RedWraith | FOUND IT |
| 23:32.22 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 23:32.24 | RedWraith | RIGHT AT THE TOP |
| 23:32.26 | ProzaicMuze | was abotu to say, are you sure? |
| 23:32.28 | ProzaicMuze | It's right there. . . |
| 23:32.40 | Mokse | is there an easy way to refresh the map without closing/reopening it? |
| 23:32.40 | RedWraith | God, it's like this is supposed to be in alphabetical order but at the same time not even close. |
| 23:32.51 | Mokse | because i feel like a fool closing and reopening every time i make a change in the data editor |
| 23:32.57 | RedWraith | so, that was in the sphere, right? :P |
| 23:32.59 | ProzaicMuze | it's in alphabetical but the first few are ones commonly used |
| 23:32.59 | Triceron | ugh, I so wish |
| 23:32.59 | RedWraith | Not the sentry? |
| 23:33.02 | Mokse | that doesn't immediately take effect |
| 23:33.10 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, you're applying this to the sphere's events |
| 23:33.13 | RedWraith | k |
| 23:33.15 | RedWraith | it's done |
| 23:33.37 | ProzaicMuze | Since you want it to be created whenever the Sentry is made, attached to its center and offset by the given amount. THen you want it to be destroyed when the sentry is destroyed. |
| 23:33.39 | onetwo | sometimes i think you have to restart the editor |
| 23:33.47 | ProzaicMuze | Now assuming you got everything right, test it out |
| 23:33.56 | RedWraith | but |
| 23:34.02 | RedWraith | I haven't modified the sentry at all |
| 23:34.03 | RedWraith | :S |
| 23:34.04 | ProzaicMuze | if it doesn't show up, you'll need to check the models' animations in the previewr in case it doesn't have a "Stand" animation |
| 23:34.16 | ProzaicMuze | And you're not going to :) |
| 23:34.21 | RedWraith | WAT |
| 23:34.26 | ProzaicMuze | The Sentry is just a victim here |
| 23:34.33 | ProzaicMuze | the model is the clingy one that will attach itself |
| 23:34.36 | RedWraith | How do I place it, then? |
| 23:34.37 | Triceron | you messing with attachments? |
| 23:34.44 | RedWraith | Do I just |
| 23:34.46 | RedWraith | attach actor? |
| 23:34.49 | ProzaicMuze | yeah, I'm trying to asplain why the attachment works |
| 23:34.56 | ProzaicMuze | you don't do anything |
| 23:35.00 | RedWraith | but...but |
| 23:35.01 | ProzaicMuze | when the sentry is born, the model is created |
| 23:35.04 | RedWraith | it has to attach somehow |
| 23:35.05 | RedWraith | but WHY |
| 23:35.13 | Triceron | yeah there's nothing to do with the parent unit, you can just make a trigger that attaches model A to model B |
| 23:35.15 | ProzaicMuze | however, you gave it a host by setting the alias to _Unit (which is an alias of all units) |
| 23:35.28 | RedWraith | There is clearly something missing here which is important. I have not mentioned the sentry in any way. |
| 23:35.37 | ProzaicMuze | Thus any time it is created by an actor with the alias _Unit, it will attach itself to the center |
| 23:35.38 | RedWraith | It has in no way modified the sentry. :P |
| 23:35.39 | ProzaicMuze | and apply the offset |
| 23:35.49 | ProzaicMuze | Not at all |
| 23:35.54 | Triceron | you should have an event that says attach model A to Reference Point on Sentry |
| 23:35.57 | ProzaicMuze | You can attach a million things to the sentry and not modify it at all |
| 23:36.03 | RedWraith | Exactly, so how can I test it out? |
| 23:36.04 | ProzaicMuze | Triceron, we're not using triggers |
| 23:36.08 | ProzaicMuze | We're using the data editor |
| 23:36.09 | RedWraith | Should I attach the actor to the sentry? |
| 23:36.10 | RedWraith | or what? |
| 23:36.11 | Triceron | ooh |
| 23:36.20 | ProzaicMuze | Red, just place a sentry on the map |
| 23:36.28 | ProzaicMuze | test the document and then cast the shield |
| 23:36.33 | ekcolnovkol | who's the guy |
| 23:36.33 | RedWraith | I...need...to....refer...to...the...sentry...somewhere.... |
| 23:36.34 | ekcolnovkol | who did |
| 23:36.36 | ekcolnovkol | the |
| 23:36.38 | ekcolnovkol | fps |
| 23:36.39 | ekcolnovkol | with the marine |
| 23:36.41 | RedWraith | I did not do so anywhere. |
| 23:36.45 | RedWraith | I don't think you're getting that. |
| 23:36.47 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 23:36.50 | ProzaicMuze | Red, you're not getting what I'm saying |
| 23:37.07 | ProzaicMuze | That's wht the "UnitBirth.Disruptor > Create" event was for |
| 23:37.07 | ekcolnovkol | 8 WHO DID THE FPS WITH THE MARINE AND THE SHOTGUN |
| 23:37.17 | ekcolnovkol | 8BLINDING LIGHT OF ZUES |
| 23:37.32 | RedWraith | wait, wait, wiat |
| 23:37.35 | RedWraith | but you said |
| 23:37.37 | RedWraith | that was on the sphere |
| 23:37.39 | RedWraith | :P |
| 23:37.40 | Triceron | my eyes hate you ekco |
| 23:37.43 | ProzaicMuze | and it is |
| 23:37.50 | ekcolnovkol | ;) |
| 23:38.04 | ProzaicMuze | Red, I'm gonna open a query and explain the series to you so you can see it all without the other folks text in the middle, mmk? |
| 23:38.05 | ekcolnovkol | it's ok |
| 23:38.08 | ekcolnovkol | i'll heal them in 3 days |
| 23:38.10 | ekcolnovkol | i promise |
| 23:38.27 | ProzaicMuze | @Azoreo, btw I think I found your problem, I'll let you know after I sort out Red |
| 23:38.38 | Azoreo | k |
| 23:38.47 | Azoreo | Going to send you a pm real quick |
| 23:40.35 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 23:40.45 | xXm0RpH3usXx | u broke something? |
| 23:40.50 | Alpha_vst | i opened the spider mine model |
| 23:40.53 | Alpha_vst | and its there |
| 23:40.54 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and it broke? |
| 23:41.03 | xXm0RpH3usXx | applauds |
| 23:41.11 | Triceron | is this the first time you opened a model using the importer? |
| 23:41.38 | Alpha_vst | no :P |
| 23:42.01 | Alpha_vst | i just didnt realize they had the model in the game i thought it was a broken model |
| 23:42.24 | ProzaicMuze | Some of the models are there, some arne't |
| 23:42.29 | ProzaicMuze | like all the Xel'Naga crap |
| 23:43.04 | Alpha_vst | it saves me from having to make spider mines now lol |
| 23:43.13 | Alpha_vst | well mines |
| 23:43.20 | Muchak | once the game releases, the doodad amount and unit model amount will just explode |
| 23:43.37 | ProzaicMuze | especially because we'll make our own |
| 23:43.45 | Muchak | yep! |
| 23:43.55 | xXm0RpH3usXx | better ones hopefully |
| 23:43.55 | ProzaicMuze | And I'm going to make a gun that shoots dildos because some guy asked for it |
| 23:43.57 | onetwo | yeah, because of that... |
| 23:44.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:44.02 | Triceron | I can't wait to see some of the singleplayer zerg stuff |
| 23:44.08 | xXm0RpH3usXx | but i predict that it will be crap mostly |
| 23:44.13 | xXm0RpH3usXx | there are good modelers out there |
| 23:44.24 | xXm0RpH3usXx | but not enough to fulfill the needs |
| 23:44.39 | onetwo | i have a lot of respect for blizzard's modellers and animators |
| 23:44.40 | onetwo | so much work |
| 23:44.52 | xXm0RpH3usXx | they did crap on wc3 |
| 23:44.59 | xXm0RpH3usXx | eroors all over the place |
| 23:45.04 | xXm0RpH3usXx | *errors |
| 23:45.09 | onetwo | meh but the wealth of stuff |
| 23:45.11 | onetwo | was great |
| 23:45.11 | Triceron | war3 really surprised me in just the amount of stuff the added in Frozen Throne |
| 23:45.23 | Triceron | full new races, heros, creeps, tilesets |
| 23:45.27 | onetwo | i dont even have a good item model atm |
| 23:45.29 | onetwo | outside of Crate |
| 23:45.32 | Triceron | within like.. 6 months |
| 23:45.39 | Muchak | ye I know |
| 23:47.21 | xXm0RpH3usXx | well, considering that they already had set up the engine |
| 23:47.24 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and everything else |
| 23:47.30 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and only had to model a little bit |
| 23:47.35 | xXm0RpH3usXx | with a big team of developers |
| 23:47.43 | onetwo | well art team, engine team |
| 23:47.43 | onetwo | etc |
| 23:47.45 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and then earning the exact same amount of money |
| 23:47.50 | xXm0RpH3usXx | as for the original game |
| 23:47.54 | xXm0RpH3usXx | hm |
| 23:48.07 | onetwo | same could be said about WoW too |
| 23:48.10 | onetwo | imagine making that game |
| 23:48.13 | onetwo | from the first line of code |
| 23:48.14 | onetwo | to now |
| 23:48.21 | xXm0RpH3usXx | dont even start on wow |
| 23:48.22 | onetwo | or from first line of code in Unreal engine |
| 23:48.26 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i just hate it |
| 23:48.30 | onetwo | i loved it |
| 23:48.33 | xXm0RpH3usXx | like.. i wouldnt even play it |
| 23:48.33 | onetwo | it was the best game i ever played |
| 23:48.38 | onetwo | well theres your problem |
| 23:48.46 | onetwo | that first month of wow |
| 23:48.47 | onetwo | was amazing |
| 23:48.51 | onetwo | nov 2004 |
| 23:48.53 | onetwo | my god |
| 23:48.53 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:49.00 | xXm0RpH3usXx | those good old days^^ |
| 23:49.02 | onetwo | but it got old eventually |
| 23:49.08 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i had a classmate |
| 23:49.17 | onetwo | but peopel still like it |
| 23:49.17 | xXm0RpH3usXx | who was really into wow |
| 23:49.19 | onetwo | maybe new people |
| 23:49.27 | xXm0RpH3usXx | he neglected his girlfriend because of it |
| 23:49.32 | onetwo | well thats messed up |
| 23:49.41 | xXm0RpH3usXx | he got to know her over cs 1.6 earlier |
| 23:49.43 | onetwo | but everyoen learns from mistakes |
| 23:49.48 | onetwo | and hopefully he did too |
| 23:49.49 | xXm0RpH3usXx | well, she got pregnant by him |
| 23:49.52 | onetwo | :/ |
| 23:49.55 | xXm0RpH3usXx | but wow was much more to him |
| 23:49.57 | xXm0RpH3usXx | than his son |
| 23:50.04 | onetwo | is there a violin playing |
| 23:50.05 | onetwo | somewhere |
| 23:50.06 | xXm0RpH3usXx | so she moved out XD |
| 23:50.07 | onetwo | hahah |
| 23:50.10 | Azoreo | How the heck do I emote... |
| 23:50.15 | xXm0RpH3usXx | she actually asked him |
| 23:50.16 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.19 | xXm0RpH3usXx | if she could get an acc |
| 23:50.21 | Azoreo | blows his vuvuzela |
| 23:50.23 | xXm0RpH3usXx | and raid with him |
| 23:50.26 | xXm0RpH3usXx | he just said NO |
| 23:50.33 | onetwo | morpheus it seems like theres bigger issues than wow here |
| 23:50.35 | onetwo | with him |
| 23:50.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:50.40 | onetwo | 1. use protection |
| 23:50.48 | onetwo | 2. dont have kids |
| 23:50.49 | Azoreo | I get out of school early tomorrow to watch the Brazil vs. Portugal game. |
| 23:50.54 | onetwo | gaming + aston martin+ travel the world OR have kids |
| 23:50.56 | onetwo | only 2 choices |
| 23:51.04 | Azoreo | I'm an adult so...doesn't really matter, but, still, awesome. |
| 23:51.10 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:51.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:51.34 | Azoreo | +onetwo, you don't get how it works |
| 23:51.41 | Azoreo | You have kids, but keep travelling, and the women can't find you. |
| 23:51.44 | Azoreo | So you do everything. |
| 23:51.46 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:51.48 | onetwo | hahah |
| 23:51.51 | onetwo | okay then that plan |
| 23:51.52 | onetwo | works too |
| 23:51.54 | onetwo | if youre guiltless |
| 23:52.36 | xXm0RpH3usXx | well, if you have to flee before her the chain around her neck is too long i guess |
| 23:52.44 | onetwo | ZING |
| 23:52.49 | onetwo | thanks everybody that was morpheusxx |
| 23:53.19 | Azoreo | Apparently Morpheus is a Hutt. |
| 23:53.31 | onetwo | thats not all he is |
| 23:53.32 | onetwo | ZING AGAIN |
| 23:53.59 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i've been deep down in the rabbit hole |
| 23:53.59 | Azoreo | Well, if he IS a Hutt, he may have a Rancor, so be careful. |
| 23:54.07 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i have seen places you cant imagine |
| 23:54.12 | xXm0RpH3usXx | i have been everything |
| 23:54.16 | xXm0RpH3usXx | THIS |
| 23:54.17 | xXm0RpH3usXx | IS |
| 23:54.20 | xXm0RpH3usXx | MATRIX! |
| 23:54.23 | xXm0RpH3usXx | *BAM* |
| 23:54.26 | xXm0RpH3usXx | wrong film >.< |
| 23:54.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Griffith` (~Zeta@CPE002191074172-CM0013718d3546.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:55.00 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:55.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster AzoreoDisc (~casqouro@200-206-255-34.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 23:55.40 | AzoreoDisc | Stupid thing disconnected me.. |
