| 00:00.37 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 00:01.49 | casperb | and Alpha_vst, would be really sweet if they added multi-plane terrain but i highly doubt it |
| 00:02.23 | casperb | maybe for Zerg campaign, heard they wanted to feature karrigan in some third person scenarios |
| 00:02.33 | s3rius | great idea |
| 00:02.36 | s3rius | if done well :P |
| 00:03.27 | gwho | can someone take a quick look at my triggers and tell me why they're not working? |
| 00:03.27 | gwho | thx |
| 00:03.48 | ctccromer | doubt i'll be able to figure it out, but i'll try for ya |
| 00:04.03 | casperb | pastie it |
| 00:04.11 | casperb | and we'll look, maybe fix it :P |
| 00:04.25 | gwho | http://www.mediafire.com/?1uczemmzzzg |
| 00:04.27 | ctccromer | so, kinda a dumb question |
| 00:04.31 | gwho | its' very basic |
| 00:04.36 | gwho | im just getting into editor |
| 00:04.36 | ctccromer | is the galaxy editor considered an "engine"? |
| 00:04.57 | casperb | nah it's a map editor :p |
| 00:05.21 | ctccromer | whats the huge difference? |
| 00:05.26 | s3rius | the galaxy editor is using the engine |
| 00:05.29 | ctccromer | @gwho, you should upload it on sc2mapster.com |
| 00:05.33 | casperb | would consider sc2 the engine and campaigns etc the game |
| 00:05.40 | casperb | engine is just a buzzword anyways |
| 00:05.44 | s3rius | the editor is the driving wheel, while the engine is.. well, the car engine ^.^ |
| 00:05.52 | ctccromer | haha got it ^^ |
| 00:06.03 | casperb | It's enterprise ready tho! |
| 00:06.12 | SixTwo | means you can have different types of games based off the same engine |
| 00:06.20 | s3rius | yep |
| 00:06.33 | s3rius | things like the unreal engine have been used / are still used in many games |
| 00:07.04 | ctccromer | gwho |
| 00:07.07 | gwho | ya |
| 00:07.10 | ctccromer | first of all in the events you can take out the timer thing |
| 00:07.25 | ctccromer | map initialization is fine as far as telling it when to execute |
| 00:07.25 | gwho | ok |
| 00:07.47 | ctccromer | also, might want to change that all to "for player ONE" (or is it 0 on purpose?) |
| 00:07.51 | gwho | mkaes sense |
| 00:07.58 | gwho | yeah cz the game is a 4 player thing |
| 00:08.03 | gwho | and i want no player to be able to control these units |
| 00:08.09 | gwho | it's just for decoration marker purposes |
| 00:08.14 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 00:08.20 | Dustin| | Damnit, I cant figure out beams |
| 00:08.27 | ctccromer | ah okay |
| 00:08.36 | gwho | the observers are supposed to be the selectors for each player |
| 00:08.36 | s3rius | look at the ghost sniper beam thing, good example |
| 00:08.36 | ctccromer | also the camera stuff |
| 00:08.41 | ctccromer | you should make a 2nd trigger for those |
| 00:08.47 | gwho | ok |
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| 00:08.58 | gwho | hm, does it matter |
| 00:08.58 | ctccromer | now with that said, what isnt working? |
| 00:09.03 | gwho | i go into test |
| 00:09.06 | gwho | and the entire map is just blank |
| 00:09.11 | gwho | cmaera doesnt center |
| 00:09.11 | ctccromer | ohh |
| 00:09.14 | gwho | units dont spawn |
| 00:09.19 | gwho | when i had it to player one, it did it all |
| 00:09.21 | ctccromer | cuz you dont have any units yourself for vision |
| 00:09.22 | Alpha_vst | ghosts sniper beam is part of the model |
| 00:09.23 | xgalaxy | haha |
| 00:09.28 | ctccromer | hold on lt me try one thing (brb) |
| 00:09.42 | xgalaxy | the new xbox 360 isn't capable of 'red ring of death'... because microsoft took out the red ring leds |
| 00:09.55 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 00:10.00 | xgalaxy | thats one way to fix it :D |
| 00:10.00 | gwho | my bro hacked it |
| 00:10.01 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 00:10.04 | gwho | and unlocked the restrictions |
| 00:10.09 | gwho | xbox360 |
| 00:10.27 | Alpha_vst | you mean paid for something off the internet to do it |
| 00:10.32 | s3rius | Microsoft News: "No More 'Red Ring Of Death'! " |
| 00:10.45 | gwho | so that u cna dl as many games as u want |
| 00:10.47 | casperb | meh happend with both my xbox and 360 |
| 00:10.56 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 00:11.01 | casperb | useless piece of crap |
| 00:11.29 | casperb | i prefer blue screens of death o.O |
| 00:11.42 | s3rius | yea, it's a more friendly color somehow. |
| 00:11.47 | casperb | and they are at least fixable in most cases |
| 00:11.57 | casperb | like without shipping off your xbox to microsoft for a year |
| 00:12.14 | SixTwo | bsod's are evil, |
| 00:12.33 | casperb | Best screensaver ever tho ^^ |
| 00:12.44 | casperb | esp on other people's hardware |
| 00:13.04 | Dustin| | Well, I guess Fuck beams |
| 00:13.08 | Dustin| | Jesus they are complicated |
| 00:13.08 | SixTwo | when you google the bsod code, typical answer you'll get it, this bsod is related to probabblly a memory issue, or it could be a program issue, or maybe hardware, an you still dont know wtf |
| 00:13.44 | Alpha_vst | its not very helpful :P |
| 00:13.54 | Alpha_vst | im glad they got rid of it |
| 00:13.57 | s3rius | Well, that's like going into a forum and shouting: "My car is burning! Why is it burning??" |
| 00:13.58 | ctccromer | back |
| 00:14.01 | ctccromer | gwho yu there? |
| 00:14.02 | ctccromer | you* |
| 00:14.03 | s3rius | Well, it could be everything ^^ |
| 00:14.07 | gwho | ya |
| 00:14.09 | gwho | i pm'ed u |
| 00:14.13 | Alpha_vst | ewwwwww |
| 00:14.16 | ctccromer | ohh i see that |
| 00:14.22 | ctccromer | sorry, first time in an "IRC" |
| 00:14.35 | gwho | hah no worries first time using map editor |
| 00:14.56 | Alpha_vst | does the mini map have a level selector thing? to tell what it should should or not |
| 00:15.11 | casperb | rephrase? |
| 00:15.13 | casperb | level selector? |
| 00:15.17 | Alpha_vst | layers... |
| 00:15.24 | Alpha_vst | idono what to call it |
| 00:15.48 | Alpha_vst | i want these big things to be under my little units so the little untis show up |
| 00:15.49 | casperb | as in toggle visibility of units? |
| 00:15.57 | casperb | ah |
| 00:16.11 | casperb | think it's just first come first serve |
| 00:16.19 | Alpha_vst | right now bigger units overwhelm small units |
| 00:16.35 | Alpha_vst | kinda lame |
| 00:16.38 | s3rius | you can reduce the size of the minimap blib |
| 00:16.41 | s3rius | blip* |
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| 00:17.06 | casperb | In his case it will still be all zombie overflown tho |
| 00:17.17 | casperb | unless you reduce them to 0, which would be pointless |
| 00:17.33 | Alpha_vst | my issue is with my points... |
| 00:17.46 | Alpha_vst | they are a 2.5 which is 6 spaces |
| 00:17.54 | Alpha_vst | anything on them wont show |
| 00:18.08 | Alpha_vst | and you wont be able to find the locations if its smaller |
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| 00:19.26 | RedWraith | Hey guys |
| 00:19.32 | Kaseano | any1 know how to do a submenu for abilities |
| 00:19.36 | RedWraith | I have a pretty serious problem that needs resolution. |
| 00:19.54 | RedWraith | How do I keep players from leaving when they die and have to wait 90 seconds for the game to restart? |
| 00:20.03 | RedWraith | in sentry scramble |
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| 00:20.08 | RedWraith | i.e. playing FFA |
| 00:20.12 | RedWraith | some noob dies in a fire |
| 00:20.20 | RedWraith | He needs something to do while the pros duke it out. |
| 00:20.32 | Kaseano | s3rious: do you put "HasVespene" under the "Smart Validators" for the ability? |
| 00:20.34 | s3rius | @RW I have an idea :D Once they die you disable the User Interface |
| 00:20.35 | Alpha_vst | MINI GAME!!!!!!!! |
| 00:20.41 | s3rius | Thus they can't click the menu button |
| 00:20.43 | s3rius | and can't leave |
| 00:20.46 | s3rius | and hotkeys don't work either |
| 00:20.47 | Alpha_vst | with dialogs |
| 00:20.47 | ctccromer | How do you allow a unit to attack while moving? I set the weapon to attack while moving but then when he's moving (patrolling) it has to stop the ability so it can start the Attack ability? |
| 00:20.48 | s3rius | :] |
| 00:21.15 | RedWraith | lol s3rius |
| 00:21.16 | RedWraith | so evil |
| 00:21.21 | RedWraith | maybe something a little more gentle |
| 00:21.28 | s3rius | @ctcc: In the weapons tab there's another array of flags. there are two entries like "only attack while attacking" and "ony fire at target" or something like that |
| 00:21.31 | Alpha_vst | ctc look at pheniox and such |
| 00:21.40 | s3rius | Well, in this case just tell them to please stay for 90second. |
| 00:21.45 | Kaseano | yeah i think it's called a strafing weapon |
| 00:21.49 | ctccromer | i did that part |
| 00:21.53 | s3rius | @ctcc you need to disable these two fields |
| 00:21.58 | RedWraith | something...that's actually part of the game |
| 00:22.04 | ctccromer | okay so |
| 00:22.04 | Kaseano | you might be able to call it a turret instead of a weapon too not sure |
| 00:22.13 | RedWraith | I'm going to have a mode where they respawn as fires, I think. |
| 00:22.16 | s3rius | @RW there's nothing to stop people from leaving. |
| 00:22.17 | ctccromer | if i tell him to move, the order is given and he fires while moving -- no problem |
| 00:22.31 | RedWraith | It's that people get impatient |
| 00:22.38 | ctccromer | but i want the hellion (mobile tower) to basically.. constantly patrol, and attack waves while patrolling |
| 00:22.48 | ctccromer | patrolling constantly has the ability on |
| 00:22.58 | ctccromer | moving only uses the ability when ordering the unit |
| 00:23.18 | ctccromer | so since patrol + attack is 2 abilities it doesnt work, but move -> attack works |
| 00:23.37 | Kaseano | ctcc you have to patrol tho? |
| 00:23.39 | s3rius | then just let it move |
| 00:23.50 | Kaseano | could just use regions to make it patrol |
| 00:23.50 | s3rius | keep issuing it movement orders everytime the unit becomes idle |
| 00:23.56 | Kaseano | or yeah |
| 00:23.59 | s3rius | and make it move left and right or up and down |
| 00:24.07 | s3rius | whereever you want to |
| 00:24.18 | ctccromer | that would require too much effort though |
| 00:24.22 | Kaseano | unit enters region, attack move to next region |
| 00:24.39 | ctccromer | i just want a player to spawn it, click patrol (2nd waypoint on map) and bam, that's all they have to do except upgrade |
| 00:24.54 | s3rius | Event: YourUnit becomes idle ---- Action: Order YourUnit to move somewhere else. Very much effort^^ |
| 00:25.09 | ctccromer | ah sorry, got confused (still am a little) |
| 00:25.16 | ctccromer | i'll try that, brb |
| 00:25.17 | Alpha_vst | is it possible to change the color of chat? |
| 00:25.27 | s3rius | Uhm don't think so. |
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| 00:26.35 | Kaseano | s3rius for an ability that requires a validation like HasVespene, do you know where you put that validation? Couldn't get it to work in smart validations |
| 00:26.50 | Alpha_vst | 2 issues that suck for my map :( |
| 00:27.34 | s3rius | @kaseano hmm not sure |
| 00:27.46 | ctccromer | if i say "unit becomes idle" > "issue order to move......" |
| 00:27.49 | ctccromer | where? |
| 00:28.02 | ctccromer | last spot that they were idle (is that possible)? |
| 00:28.16 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 00:28.31 | Alpha_vst | if they become idle the last spot they where is wheer they are at |
| 00:28.39 | ctccromer | right |
| 00:28.40 | ctccromer | i knew that |
| 00:28.44 | Alpha_vst | were idle |
| 00:28.58 | ctccromer | well hell, there's gotta be a simple way to say "allow 2 abilities simultaneously" |
| 00:28.59 | Alpha_vst | but yes |
| 00:29.17 | Alpha_vst | its possible |
| 00:29.37 | ctccromer | hm |
| 00:29.51 | ctccromer | if a unit does something on its own (attack a unit that's in range) is that considered an "order"? |
| 00:29.57 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 00:30.04 | ctccromer | cuz if not i can say "unit attacks" > "do last order" |
| 00:30.05 | ctccromer | damn ok |
| 00:30.11 | Kaseano | has any1 made a sub menu for abilities |
| 00:30.11 | ctccromer | hm, |
| 00:30.15 | Alpha_vst | the ai gave the order |
| 00:30.18 | Kaseano | not sure how to do it |
| 00:30.33 | Alpha_vst | do it like building |
| 00:30.38 | ctccromer | can you say last order given by owner of triggering unit? |
| 00:30.43 | Kaseano | ohh ok i'll go check that out thx Alpha_vst |
| 00:30.44 | Alpha_vst | sure |
| 00:31.46 | ctccromer | how? "unit starts attacking" > "unit - order (triggering unit) to..." |
| 00:37.39 | SixTwo | (attacking unit) ? |
| 00:38.28 | Kaseano | Alpha_vst building seems massively complicated compared to just a submenu of abilities, do u know if it's the only way? |
| 00:39.18 | Spoofed | anyone good with java? |
| 00:39.35 | Spoofed | I'm trying to teach myself it, but I've run into a bit of a snag |
| 00:39.46 | `3ICE | ask away |
| 00:40.08 | Spoofed | http://pastebin.com/PnpUXzcJ |
| 00:40.22 | Spoofed | IDE is giving me an error for calling c_prime |
| 00:40.25 | Spoofed | in the main |
| 00:40.40 | Spoofed | it wants me to convert c_prime to a void instead of bool |
| 00:40.56 | Spoofed | I'm pretty sure I'm calling it properly though |
| 00:41.05 | Spoofed | unless there's some syntax I don't know about |
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| 00:42.41 | `3ICE | boolean != bool |
| 00:42.52 | Spoofed | its shorter to type |
| 00:42.55 | Spoofed | >.< |
| 00:43.16 | Spoofed | and by looking at the code you can see I'm reffering to boolean |
| 00:44.10 | casperb | Java o.o |
| 00:44.24 | Spoofed | yeah |
| 00:44.40 | Spoofed | I'm trying to teach myself a legitimate coding language |
| 00:44.48 | Kaseano | omg the submenu is really easy nvm |
| 00:44.56 | Spoofed | that has uses beyond game creation |
| 00:45.01 | casperb | So what's with the java then? :p |
| 00:45.06 | casperb | hehe j/k ^^ |
| 00:45.16 | casperb | actually one of the few i like |
| 00:46.21 | gwho | is "playable size" the acutal size? |
| 00:46.30 | gwho | i have yellow and blue borders, what are those? |
| 00:46.30 | Spoofed | no |
| 00:46.41 | SixTwo | its the map bounds size |
| 00:46.46 | Spoofed | yeah |
| 00:46.56 | casperb | playable is actually camera bounds isn't it? |
| 00:46.58 | gwho | map bounds if smalller than the total map, that means waht? |
| 00:47.14 | Spoofed | camera bounds extend beyond playable area |
| 00:47.22 | Spoofed | that's why when terraning |
| 00:47.33 | Spoofed | the boarder is unplayable |
| 00:47.50 | Spoofed | so the cam doesn't look into empty space |
| 00:47.55 | casperb | You can remove that tho :p |
| 00:47.57 | Stripe | gn8 everyone :) |
| 00:48.01 | casperb | nn |
| 00:48.03 | gwho | gnite |
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| 00:48.34 | gwho | when i go to new, theres dropbboxes of width and height. those are the actual size right? |
| 00:48.50 | casperb | actually playable region != camera region |
| 00:48.54 | gwho | playable size on the right is indicating the area the camera cetner can go |
| 00:48.57 | gwho | ok ty |
| 00:49.02 | SixTwo | yes, and on the right it says the playable map size |
| 00:49.18 | gwho | and then the yellow border, and the blue border |
| 00:49.18 | SixTwo | wich is how much of the map your units are able to walk on |
| 00:49.24 | gwho | yellow = camera bounds? |
| 00:49.36 | gwho | woah wat. |
| 00:49.45 | casperb | Alright yellow = playable bounds |
| 00:49.55 | casperb | By default camera bounds = playable bounds |
| 00:50.00 | Spoofed | no |
| 00:50.06 | Spoofed | by default |
| 00:50.13 | Spoofed | camera bounds extend beyond playable |
| 00:50.17 | casperb | nah |
| 00:50.20 | Spoofed | yes |
| 00:50.38 | Spoofed | I got screwed over by that the first time I tried terraining in the editor |
| 00:50.42 | casperb | just tried, default cam can't move outside yellow |
| 00:50.46 | Spoofed | it cut off the entire boarder |
| 00:51.08 | Spoofed | I don't know the colors |
| 00:51.14 | Spoofed | since I'm not with the editor right now |
| 00:51.20 | casperb | i.e playable bounds |
| 00:51.30 | SixTwo | gwho the blue line means, you can only have units placed, playable etc etc inside this region. outside of it its unplayable, you cant drop units there in example (on default) |
| 00:51.41 | Spoofed | ^^ |
| 00:51.41 | gwho | oh |
| 00:51.48 | casperb | ah yeah sorry for derailing :P |
| 00:51.52 | gwho | so basically it doenst exist |
| 00:51.56 | gwho | outside the blue |
| 00:51.56 | Spoofed | well |
| 00:51.59 | gwho | so if i want a square map |
| 00:52.01 | Spoofed | the player can still see it |
| 00:52.06 | SixTwo | it does, its still visible and everything |
| 00:52.06 | Spoofed | kinda |
| 00:52.12 | casperb | It's essentially a buffer zone for visuals |
| 00:52.18 | gwho | ok |
| 00:52.21 | gwho | so when i go to new map |
| 00:52.24 | Spoofed | that's what I was talking about before |
| 00:52.28 | gwho | i should pay attention to playable bounds |
| 00:52.31 | Spoofed | yes |
| 00:52.32 | gwho | rather than the dropbox numbers |
| 00:52.38 | SixTwo | its just there so that when you play the game, the camera cant scroll past that pooint, otherwise you would see the black parts where there is no map |
| 00:52.44 | Spoofed | dropbox numbers are larger than the playable bounds |
| 00:52.54 | gwho | playable bounds = "actual" bounds? |
| 00:53.01 | Spoofed | no |
| 00:53.04 | gwho | the acutal map size |
| 00:53.09 | gwho | where u can do stuff on |
| 00:53.11 | SixTwo | and yes, if you want a map playable size of 64x64, then you should watch for the playable size, not the drop downs |
| 00:53.11 | gwho | command units |
| 00:53.14 | Spoofed | yeah |
| 00:53.16 | gwho | ok ty |
| 00:53.17 | gwho | ty |
| 00:53.18 | Spoofed | no |
| 00:53.21 | Spoofed | actual size |
| 00:53.22 | gwho | lmao |
| 00:53.25 | casperb | lol |
| 00:53.28 | gwho | i think |
| 00:53.28 | Spoofed | is only for terran |
| 00:53.31 | gwho | the terminology |
| 00:53.34 | gwho | is whats is bad |
| 00:53.35 | gwho | lol |
| 00:53.37 | Spoofed | yeah |
| 00:53.48 | Spoofed | they need to just let it be like wc3 terrain |
| 00:53.58 | Spoofed | where you could edit past the bounds |
| 00:54.00 | Spoofed | on the fly |
| 00:54.11 | casperb | you can |
| 00:54.25 | Spoofed | not really |
| 00:54.28 | casperb | unless i'm misunderstanding you o.O |
| 00:54.33 | Spoofed | you still have that actual size limit |
| 00:54.47 | Spoofed | not to mention wc3 just added flat land beyond the map |
| 00:54.51 | Spoofed | if I remeber correctly |
| 00:55.02 | casperb | we have skyboxes tho :D |
| 00:55.18 | casperb | and with two layers, you can add some neat stuff |
| 00:55.32 | gwho | then that screws up the numeric stuff |
| 00:55.52 | gwho | cz the origin of the cartesian coordinate is baesd on the lower left corner of the dropbox sizes |
| 00:55.57 | SixTwo | gwho its not that bad, you can change the maps zie even after you have initially created it |
| 00:56.14 | gwho | hm i wish the dropbbox size = playable size |
| 00:56.16 | `3ICE | it resets the coordinates if you change the map bounds i think |
| 00:56.29 | gwho | cz if my map is 100x 100 playable size |
| 00:56.40 | gwho | i want to type in 25 25 for one fourth of th eway over |
| 00:57.02 | casperb | thing is tho, that the margin can be changed in data |
| 00:57.18 | casperb | i.e you can have 100% playable (tho it looks like crap) |
| 00:57.39 | `3ICE | I always used 100% playable in war3 :) |
| 00:57.43 | gwho | they don't have a coordinate reset just for editing purposes? |
| 00:57.49 | gwho | hm |
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| 00:59.29 | Spoofed | so... |
| 00:59.34 | Spoofed | can anyone help me out? |
| 00:59.34 | Spoofed | http://pastebin.com/0vEBSiH1 |
| 00:59.39 | Spoofed | error on line 2 |
| 00:59.52 | Spoofed | saying I need to change c_prime to void |
| 00:59.57 | Alpha_vst | wtf is that |
| 01:00.30 | Spoofed | java |
| 01:00.30 | Spoofed | I'm trying to learn a legitimate language |
| 01:00.30 | Spoofed | for something other than game creation |
| 01:00.59 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:01.10 | Alpha_vst | learn c++ |
| 01:03.00 | s3rius | @spoofed: maybe the IDE doesn't have forward declaration |
| 01:03.12 | s3rius | try putting the c_prime function above the other one |
| 01:05.44 | s3rius | - |
| 01:05.49 | s3rius | anyway I'm off. Later guys |
| 01:05.57 | casperb | laters s3rius |
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| 01:06.29 | casperb | Spoofed|AWAY: that's the entire thing right? |
| 01:07.18 | casperb | ah |
| 01:07.25 | casperb | Spoofed|AWAY: static void main? |
| 01:07.35 | casperb | Spoofed|AWAY: usually main has to be int, not sure if it's true in java |
| 01:07.35 | gwho | ah this is painful |
| 01:07.36 | gwho | =] |
| 01:07.50 | gwho | does anyone knwo the map worms? |
| 01:08.05 | casperb | know of the game worms :P |
| 01:08.45 | Spoofed | yeah |
| 01:10.06 | Dustin| | I had a badass idea on how to do a Worms map on SC2 |
| 01:10.22 | Dustin| | Itd take some model rotation shit |
| 01:10.25 | Dustin| | but it'd be sweet |
| 01:10.33 | casperb | Deforms will be limited tho |
| 01:10.46 | ekcolnvkol | hey |
| 01:10.48 | Dustin| | Use Raise height Tool |
| 01:10.51 | gwho | which worms r utlaking about dustin? the shooting one? |
| 01:10.51 | ekcolnvkol | how do i post a youtube link on the forum |
| 01:10.56 | Dustin| | And then make the camera straight up and down |
| 01:11.02 | Dustin| | Yes gwho |
| 01:11.08 | ekcolnvkol | 13 HOW DO I EMBED A YOUTUBE LINK ON THE FORUM |
| 01:11.11 | casperb | Dustin|: That's all good but major thing in worms is digging |
| 01:11.13 | ekcolnvkol | >:( |
| 01:11.19 | casperb | a major thing * |
| 01:11.19 | Dustin| | Dude |
| 01:11.25 | Dustin| | That's what Im explaining how to do :P |
| 01:11.28 | ekcolnvkol | o |
| 01:11.40 | gwho | you can probably embed just by copy and pasting the embed code from youtube |
| 01:11.47 | ekcolnvkol | i tried that >_< |
| 01:11.51 | ekcolnvkol | q.q |
| 01:12.03 | casperb | Still, you can't deform an underpass :P |
| 01:12.21 | casperb | but suppose you could just replace digging for burrow |
| 01:12.27 | Dustin| | Nah |
| 01:12.30 | Dustin| | You're thinking about it all wrong |
| 01:12.40 | Dustin| | one sec ill show you my idea |
| 01:12.51 | gwho | u can't use the actual 3d height |
| 01:12.58 | gwho | u have to use veritcal up as "higher", right? |
| 01:13.15 | Dustin| | Put the Camera in a Top down view |
| 01:13.19 | gwho | rotate the models so it looks like they're standing |
| 01:13.50 | gwho | like that one reaper game right? |
| 01:13.52 | ekcolnvkol | it's not working |
| 01:13.54 | ekcolnvkol | T_T |
| 01:13.57 | ekcolnvkol | oh wait |
| 01:13.59 | ekcolnvkol | THER IT IS |
| 01:14.00 | ekcolnvkol | YAS |
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| 01:17.25 | casperb | Dustin|: so top down camera and? |
| 01:19.40 | Dustin| | Taking a screenshot one sec |
| 01:19.50 | casperb | sweet ^^ |
| 01:23.38 | Dustin| | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/843426/WormsConcept.png |
| 01:23.40 | Dustin| | Ok so |
| 01:23.46 | Dustin| | You have your top down view |
| 01:24.00 | Dustin| | And then you raise the terrain to a certain height |
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| 01:24.22 | ekcolnvkol | hey guize |
| 01:24.23 | ekcolnvkol | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3718-starcraft-ii-dot-a-storm-of-the-imperial-sanctum/ |
| 01:24.25 | Dustin| | Keep the hieght the same throughout, but then you basicacly "paint" the worms map with the height tool, |
| 01:24.29 | ekcolnvkol | EAT IT |
| 01:24.30 | ekcolnvkol | :o |
| 01:24.44 | Dustin| | Then when shooting you'd lower the raised area to create "Deformation" of the terrain |
| 01:25.33 | Alpha_vst | wow dota lame |
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| 01:26.35 | casperb | Dustin|: love the diagram :D |
| 01:26.40 | Dustin| | hehe |
| 01:27.03 | Dustin| | I want to do a project liek that but havent got around to it |
| 01:27.19 | Alpha_vst | first thing i wanted to do was worms... |
| 01:27.21 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 01:27.27 | casperb | was playing around with lemmings/worms |
| 01:27.52 | Alpha_vst | i worm like game would be awesome though |
| 01:28.08 | Alpha_vst | with aiming and turn and shit |
| 01:28.15 | casperb | yea concluded that while lemmings bring back memories of atari, it's not suitable for multiplayer |
| 01:28.32 | Alpha_vst | you could make it work |
| 01:29.07 | casperb | And off to a tagent, a worm's weapon system would be very easy to do |
| 01:29.26 | Dustin| | Oh ya |
| 01:29.29 | casperb | just precalculate the trajectory etc and do an attack |
| 01:29.31 | Alpha_vst | im starting to think my game might be better off a ffa vs zombies |
| 01:29.36 | Dustin| | The whole thing would be pretty easy |
| 01:29.46 | Dustin| | Just gotta make sure you got good physics algs going in |
| 01:30.16 | Alpha_vst | thats my issue :P |
| 01:30.20 | Alpha_vst | bad at maths |
| 01:30.22 | casperb | But the whole top down thing raises more issues than it solves IMO |
| 01:31.09 | casperb | existing movers, pathing etc would break |
| 01:31.15 | Alpha_vst | Wow omg |
| 01:31.19 | Alpha_vst | shifting |
| 01:31.23 | Alpha_vst | thats amazing |
| 01:31.33 | Alpha_vst | maybe to hard to put into the game though :( |
| 01:31.35 | gwho | what is region negative positive? |
| 01:31.46 | Dustin | Ya you'd have to custom code movement |
| 01:31.47 | casperb | boolean operations |
| 01:31.51 | Dustin | But that wouldnt be hard |
| 01:31.54 | Alpha_vst | gwho: you can add to regions |
| 01:31.59 | Alpha_vst | and make new shapes |
| 01:32.11 | casperb | a region is a composite of geometric shapes |
| 01:32.17 | casperb | negative, og positive |
| 01:32.21 | casperb | i.e additive or subtractive |
| 01:32.26 | gwho | ic ic |
| 01:32.28 | gwho | ty |
| 01:32.47 | Alpha_vst | why would hexediting a model work or am i jsut dumb :( |
| 01:32.48 | gwho | if region is just singular, then it doenst matter if its positive or negative |
| 01:33.06 | gwho | that is, if ur not trying to combine regions |
| 01:33.07 | casperb | Well, has to be positive in that case |
| 01:33.14 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 01:33.14 | gwho | ok |
| 01:33.18 | casperb | 0 - 0 = ? ;) |
| 01:33.29 | casperb | well wait |
| 01:33.39 | casperb | nah doubt it will work with negative |
| 01:33.44 | casperb | It's wrong either way :p |
| 01:33.49 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:33.57 | Alpha_vst | you would void the region |
| 01:34.03 | Alpha_vst | remove it |
| 01:34.03 | ekcolnvkol | hey alpha |
| 01:34.06 | Alpha_vst | pretty much |
| 01:34.08 | ekcolnvkol | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3718-starcraft-ii-dot-a-storm-of-the-imperial-sanctum/ |
| 01:34.16 | ekcolnvkol | :O |
| 01:34.17 | Alpha_vst | yeah i said ewww dota |
| 01:34.20 | ekcolnvkol | it has begun |
| 01:34.22 | ekcolnvkol | q.q |
| 01:34.38 | ekcolnvkol | THE PLAGUE WILL SPREAD |
| 01:34.45 | Alpha_vst | then stop making it |
| 01:34.52 | ekcolnvkol | but i want the plague to spread |
| 01:34.54 | ekcolnvkol | :o |
| 01:35.10 | Alpha_vst | your doing it wrong it should be aos |
| 01:35.17 | ekcolnvkol | what's aos |
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| 01:35.20 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:35.26 | ekcolnvkol | altar of storms? <.< |
| 01:35.31 | P_R_Deltoid | my com,puter broke! |
| 01:35.33 | P_R_Deltoid | :< |
| 01:35.38 | Alpha_vst | mayeb you should play wow less |
| 01:35.45 | ekcolnvkol | i played wow on AoS and i HATED THAT SERVER |
| 01:35.46 | ekcolnvkol | q.q |
| 01:35.48 | ekcolnvkol | what's aos |
| 01:35.59 | P_R_Deltoid | altar of storms, probably? |
| 01:36.01 | casperb | People still play that shitty game? :P |
| 01:36.18 | P_R_Deltoid | I think you answered your own question |
| 01:36.45 | ekcolnvkol | :o |
| 01:36.46 | ekcolnvkol | i did? |
| 01:36.47 | casperb | guess it was more of a remark than question :P |
| 01:36.48 | ekcolnvkol | holy crap |
| 01:36.56 | P_R_Deltoid | <ekcolnvkol> altar of storms? <.< |
| 01:36.57 | P_R_Deltoid | see |
| 01:36.58 | ekcolnvkol | i am am magician |
| 01:37.02 | P_R_Deltoid | <ekcolnvkol> what's aos |
| 01:37.05 | P_R_Deltoid | that came later |
| 01:37.08 | SixTwo | that dota map looks awesome :D |
| 01:37.24 | P_R_Deltoid | whcih one |
| 01:37.25 | casperb | ekcolnvkol: better make it starcrafty :P |
| 01:37.30 | P_R_Deltoid | there are quite a few! |
| 01:37.44 | ekcolnvkol | there are |
| 01:37.48 | ekcolnvkol | but mine is bettar |
| 01:38.00 | ekcolnvkol | o.o |
| 01:38.04 | Alpha_vst | aeon of strife is aos |
| 01:38.15 | ekcolnvkol | oh |
| 01:38.18 | P_R_Deltoid | if it's a wow server it ain't |
| 01:38.23 | ekcolnvkol | what's aeon of strive |
| 01:38.24 | P_R_Deltoid | it'd be altar of storms |
| 01:38.27 | ekcolnvkol | *strife |
| 01:38.36 | Alpha_vst | its what dota came from pretty much |
| 01:38.43 | casperb | meh i have a bugged vertex in my terrain o.O |
| 01:38.44 | ekcolnvkol | ah |
| 01:38.46 | P_R_Deltoid | it's dota, is what it is |
| 01:38.46 | ekcolnvkol | i see |
| 01:38.55 | Alpha_vst | no its not |
| 01:39.01 | P_R_Deltoid | but altar of the storms is different, you see. |
| 01:39.04 | P_R_Deltoid | it is an altar |
| 01:39.05 | casperb | 20 mins trying to move 1 single vertex.. :S |
| 01:39.07 | P_R_Deltoid | where storms happen |
| 01:39.14 | P_R_Deltoid | and sometimes random people pop out and shout stuff |
| 01:39.23 | P_R_Deltoid | "my-uh blade seeks avengence-uh |
| 01:39.24 | P_R_Deltoid | " |
| 01:39.46 | P_R_Deltoid | or uhm |
| 01:39.52 | P_R_Deltoid | "did somebody call for da docta?" |
| 01:39.59 | P_R_Deltoid | I think that is what the shadow hunter said sometimes |
| 01:40.00 | SixTwo | ekcolnvkol just a question , why did you guys decide to use biological psionic etc, instead of strength agility etc based heroes. |
| 01:40.18 | casperb | hopefully because it's SC |
| 01:40.21 | SixTwo | cause eventho you do explain what they mean, there will still be confusion that like you say, biological -= zerg |
| 01:40.21 | ekcolnvkol | obvious reasons |
| 01:40.22 | ekcolnvkol | lol |
| 01:40.34 | casperb | meh a ghost with agility? that would be a major wtf? factor |
| 01:40.36 | ekcolnvkol | well i thought i explained that |
| 01:40.50 | SixTwo | you did, but I doubt everyone will read it |
| 01:40.53 | ekcolnvkol | i didn't want to use agi/str/int |
| 01:40.58 | ekcolnvkol | i'll bold it |
| 01:41.00 | ekcolnvkol | lol |
| 01:41.00 | ekcolnvkol | sec |
| 01:41.09 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:41.33 | Alpha_vst | trying to bring dota into sc is just silly |
| 01:41.39 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 01:42.00 | SixTwo | awesome if done right :D and thisone seems really really good sofar imo :) |
| 01:42.01 | ekcolnvkol | so was little big planet, but hell they made $$$ :D |
| 01:42.26 | ekcolnvkol | sock puppets on the high-tech ps3 was like o.o |
| 01:42.42 | Alpha_vst | not sock puppets |
| 01:42.43 | SixTwo | " Heroes are no longer based on str/agi/int, but rather on armor class. " that's the part you need to bold ekcolnvkol :p |
| 01:43.42 | Alpha_vst | whew so |
| 01:44.18 | casperb | little big planet was cool :p |
| 01:44.20 | casperb | would never buy it |
| 01:44.33 | casperb | but was fun to toy around with for an hour |
| 01:44.38 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:44.40 | casperb | disco dance oh yeah! |
| 01:44.43 | ekcolnvkol | lol |
| 01:44.50 | Alpha_vst | yeah my friend has it i played it a bit |
| 01:44.52 | ekcolnvkol | my brother wants to buy it ;/ |
| 01:45.05 | Alpha_vst | lbp2 loosk a lot better though |
| 01:45.15 | P_R_Deltoid | sock PEOPLe, ekcolnvkol |
| 01:45.20 | P_R_Deltoid | they prefer to be called sock PEOPLE |
| 01:45.36 | Alpha_vst | not even socks 0.o |
| 01:45.40 | P_R_Deltoid | sacks |
| 01:45.42 | P_R_Deltoid | sack people |
| 01:45.50 | P_R_Deltoid | his name was sackboy wasn;t it |
| 01:45.53 | P_R_Deltoid | he was a big sack |
| 01:45.59 | Alpha_vst | but thats not a sock |
| 01:46.10 | P_R_Deltoid | also, sixen, wtf way to update the front page, dick. |
| 01:46.15 | P_R_Deltoid | I use sacks as socks sometimes |
| 01:46.17 | ekcolnvkol | o.o |
| 01:47.07 | Alpha_vst | so im converting all my units over to my mod :( |
| 01:47.09 | Alpha_vst | sigh |
| 01:47.26 | Alpha_vst | hoepfully that will fix the bnet issue |
| 01:47.36 | casperb | just copy the map |
| 01:47.38 | P_R_Deltoid | what bnet issue |
| 01:47.38 | Alpha_vst | with overridding etxtures |
| 01:47.38 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 01:47.43 | casperb | rename it, and delete the terrain :P |
| 01:48.04 | Alpha_vst | more work then i have to import everything |
| 01:48.10 | casperb | nah |
| 01:48.14 | Alpha_vst | not many units right now lol |
| 01:48.25 | Alpha_vst | almost done like |
| 01:56.35 | Kaseano | wow i didn't know mules could repair, they'd be sweet to call down in the middle of a battle |
| 01:56.55 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:56.57 | P_R_Deltoid | people do tha tsometimes! |
| 01:57.00 | Alpha_vst | noob :P |
| 01:57.03 | ekcolnvkol | it's usually not worth it |
| 01:57.09 | P_R_Deltoid | for a final push, sure |
| 01:57.13 | P_R_Deltoid | completely worth it |
| 01:57.21 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 01:57.25 | P_R_Deltoid | in fact, if it helps win a battle, it's completely worth it |
| 01:57.28 | P_R_Deltoid | basically |
| 01:57.32 | ekcolnvkol | i'd rather build 10 command centers and SPAM HIS BASE WITH SCANS |
| 01:57.40 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, see, no |
| 01:57.42 | Alpha_vst | woot saving everything i just did and crashed |
| 01:57.44 | Alpha_vst | WOW |
| 01:57.48 | Alpha_vst | FUCKING SHIT SHIT |
| 01:57.49 | P_R_Deltoid | that is what we call a NOOB tactic |
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| 01:57.59 | P_R_Deltoid | lol crash saves |
| 01:58.00 | P_R_Deltoid | owned |
| 01:58.03 | ekcolnvkol | only pros are capable of scan spam |
| 01:58.05 | ekcolnvkol | :D |
| 01:58.07 | Kaseano | well when you're sieging or something |
| 01:58.10 | P_R_Deltoid | when you thought you were safe. |
| 01:59.04 | xgalaxy | whats that music in that sc2 dota clone? |
| 01:59.35 | ekcolnvkol | it's not a clone q.q |
| 01:59.43 | ekcolnvkol | it's by immediate music |
| 01:59.52 | ekcolnvkol | the guys who worked on explosm videos |
| 02:00.02 | P_R_Deltoid | link thread |
| 02:00.05 | P_R_Deltoid | of your project |
| 02:00.38 | ekcolnvkol | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3718-starcraft-ii-dot-a-storm-of-the-imperial-sanctum/#p2 |
| 02:00.45 | ekcolnvkol | it might be in the wrong section |
| 02:01.37 | ekcolnvkol | but i am asking for help :D |
| 02:03.20 | Alpha_vst | casperb do you have a guide for deleting the terrain for a file |
| 02:03.22 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:03.24 | Alpha_vst | or what files is it |
| 02:03.39 | casperb | got an mpq editor? |
| 02:03.43 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 02:04.03 | casperb | Alrigh do this with a copy (Note, copy!) |
| 02:04.21 | casperb | delete tTerrain, theightmap etc |
| 02:04.22 | Alpha_vst | yeah i am |
| 02:04.24 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:04.35 | ekcolnovkol | typo |
| 02:04.36 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 02:04.57 | casperb | everything that is named t3 in the root is terrain related |
| 02:05.00 | Alpha_vst | all the t3 files? |
| 02:05.04 | Alpha_vst | ok |
| 02:05.51 | casperb | painted pathing layer and regions are meaningless without terrain so them aswell |
| 02:06.09 | casperb | (a map renamed as a mod works as a mod without doing anything btw) :P |
| 02:07.50 | casperb | Alpha_vst: ofc easiest to compare a new mod vs a new map, what files a mod doesn't have |
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| 02:08.15 | casperb | only had to do it once so diddn't bother to write anything up on it |
| 02:08.29 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:08.30 | Alpha_vst | i see |
| 02:08.57 | casperb | meh why are water tiles so freaking big o.o |
| 02:09.15 | jayruy | noob q: how come sometimes when i duplicate a unit the model doesn't load (shows as sphere) |
| 02:09.28 | casperb | duplicated the actor? |
| 02:09.48 | jayruy | yes |
| 02:09.50 | casperb | anyways just go into the actor of the model and ensure that it has the correct model field |
| 02:09.53 | casperb | art - model |
| 02:10.01 | casperb | it assumes the model will be named the same as the actor |
| 02:10.17 | casperb | (by default, can be overridden to anything) |
| 02:10.27 | jayruy | aha, think that's probably it, thanks! |
| 02:10.32 | Alpha_vst | think i crashed my editor woot |
| 02:10.44 | ekcolnovkol | CRASH AND BURNNN |
| 02:10.51 | ekcolnovkol | always save after a change o.o |
| 02:10.53 | heysparky | you're not sure, alpha? |
| 02:11.30 | casperb | Zhakul'Das has some funky lighting o.o |
| 02:11.59 | Alpha_vst | its not working hmmm |
| 02:12.03 | Alpha_vst | paln b |
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| 02:12.20 | onetwo | hi |
| 02:12.24 | onetwo | http://www.theonion.com/video/soccer-officially-announces-it-is-gay,17603/ |
| 02:12.25 | onetwo | haha so funny |
| 02:12.29 | casperb | hey hey onetwo |
| 02:12.32 | onetwo | sorry for the ad at the start |
| 02:12.35 | onetwo | but its hilarious |
| 02:12.51 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 02:12.59 | onetwo | "soccer wildly popular in gay places like spain and florida" |
| 02:13.07 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 02:15.44 | Alpha_vst | wow |
| 02:15.46 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:16.12 | Alpha_vst | i cant get this to work gah |
| 02:16.28 | onetwo | you're a hack Alpha |
| 02:16.32 | onetwo | you're not the man i thought you were |
| 02:16.36 | onetwo | you suck at sc2 and you suck at life |
| 02:16.39 | onetwo | are you motivated now? |
| 02:17.17 | SixTwo | I think you crushed his soul |
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| 02:17.47 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 02:18.04 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 02:18.57 | casperb | o.o |
| 02:19.03 | Alpha_vst | i think i broke my editor |
| 02:19.04 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 02:19.16 | Alpha_vst | dont ask me how |
| 02:20.02 | Alpha_vst | oh i broke the link to my map so it crashes i see |
| 02:20.46 | Alpha_vst | ok hmmm |
| 02:23.35 | onetwo | http://www.starcraftarena.net/ |
| 02:23.39 | onetwo | husky has a website now |
| 02:23.40 | onetwo | with HD |
| 02:23.43 | onetwo | cool stuff :D |
| 02:23.46 | onetwo | i got Onetwo |
| 02:23.50 | onetwo | account name |
| 02:23.51 | onetwo | haha |
| 02:25.24 | SixTwo | "HD: Same as Husky, but not nearly as Baller." lol :D I love husky |
| 02:25.52 | gwho | haha |
| 02:26.06 | gwho | i can't stand listening to husky for extended periods of time |
| 02:26.22 | gwho | but day9 ... all day |
| 02:26.26 | gwho | 9 days a week baby |
| 02:26.45 | gwho | AHHHH i want to make worms =D |
| 02:26.52 | gwho | gotta learn the edidtor fast |
| 02:26.56 | Alpha_vst | hmmm |
| 02:26.57 | SixTwo | I like hd's commentary better than husky, husky is really funny tho |
| 02:27.00 | Alpha_vst | why can i still place shit |
| 02:27.03 | Alpha_vst | in my mod |
| 02:27.10 | Alpha_vst | even though the map is gone |
| 02:27.14 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 02:27.18 | gwho | i think husky does go off-road than HD does |
| 02:27.25 | ekcolnovkol | close your map editor and reopen it |
| 02:27.26 | gwho | HD is like jay leno |
| 02:27.27 | gwho | lols |
| 02:27.27 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 02:27.31 | SixTwo | hd messes up names soooooo much lol |
| 02:27.32 | gwho | in a good way |
| 02:27.35 | gwho | oo |
| 02:27.51 | gwho | i dotn see tasteless anymore |
| 02:27.53 | gwho | where does he cast |
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| 02:28.35 | gwho | anyone know how to remove creep from a building that has it by defualt? |
| 02:28.36 | onetwo | the thing with Day9 is everything he says is so explanatory. He could be explaining (in his tone) the difference between huggeys and pampers and their viability into the late baby years |
| 02:28.39 | onetwo | and i would be hooked |
| 02:28.41 | onetwo | writing down strats |
| 02:28.46 | gwho | lmao |
| 02:28.48 | Nevir | gwho: it's a behavior on the unit, you should be good if you remove it |
| 02:28.54 | SixTwo | lol onetwo |
| 02:28.56 | gwho | where is behavior? |
| 02:29.00 | onetwo | afk dinner |
| 02:29.25 | gwho | is it then an actor instead of a unit? |
| 02:29.42 | Nevir | in the data editor, go to the unit of the building, and it's in the "Behavior - Behaviors +" field |
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| 02:33.35 | gwho | rr nevir |
| 02:33.39 | gwho | i do not see it |
| 02:33.46 | gwho | data editor -> hatchery -> |
| 02:33.48 | gwho | don't see |
| 02:34.21 | Nevir | are you in the tabbed view or the table view? |
| 02:34.40 | ekcolnovkol | when is monster hunter for ps3 coming out T_T |
| 02:34.43 | ekcolnovkol | weeps |
| 02:35.22 | gwho | i was on models |
| 02:35.27 | gwho | but i wen to actors and i see it |
| 02:35.46 | Nevir | You want to go to it under units |
| 02:36.03 | gwho | ok |
| 02:37.34 | gwho | awesome! |
| 02:37.35 | gwho | ty |
| 02:37.39 | Nevir | yup! |
| 02:37.52 | gwho | r u familiar with te map worms, nevir? |
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| 02:38.00 | gwho | worms 1.83 on Bw ums |
| 02:38.18 | Nevir | I don't think so :( |
| 02:38.41 | gwho | well im using hte nydus worm head |
| 02:38.44 | gwho | as the head of the worm |
| 02:38.47 | gwho | and when it moves |
| 02:38.55 | gwho | i want it to tilt in that direction |
| 02:38.59 | gwho | as if it was moving in that direction |
| 02:39.03 | gwho | instead of looking at the sky the entire time |
| 02:39.19 | gwho | im gnona make it a flying unit |
| 02:39.25 | Nevir | does the head rotate while it's facing up? just not in the direction you want? |
| 02:39.54 | ekcolnovkol | hahaha |
| 02:39.56 | ekcolnovkol | that's funy |
| 02:39.56 | Nevir | well, rather, what sort of actor are you using to define it? |
| 02:40.00 | ekcolnovkol | just rotate the actor |
| 02:40.00 | Nevir | Hey now :P |
| 02:40.04 | ekcolnovkol | send model message |
| 02:40.22 | gwho | if the worm head is told to move to a location |
| 02:40.31 | gwho | then the worm head will look towards that direction |
| 02:40.37 | Nevir | ah k |
| 02:40.37 | gwho | (by default he's looking at the sky) |
| 02:40.53 | gwho | if i can get some tilting action |
| 02:41.04 | gwho | when he decelerates and comes to a stop |
| 02:41.09 | Nevir | Yeah, try what ekco suggests |
| 02:41.12 | gwho | he will slowly revert to looking upwards |
| 02:41.20 | gwho | permanantly? |
| 02:41.29 | gwho | eh i guess thats not bad eitiher |
| 02:41.37 | gwho | i'll save the tilting action for antoher day |
| 02:41.59 | ekcolnovkol | finally someone that spells my name properly ;_; |
| 02:42.05 | ekcolnovkol | most people say "ecko" D: |
| 02:42.10 | ekcolnovkol | it's like a mind game |
| 02:42.26 | Nevir | Evil, sir |
| 02:42.29 | gwho | haha |
| 02:42.41 | gwho | is it in a language? |
| 02:42.46 | ekcolnovkol | my name? |
| 02:42.47 | gwho | ekcolnovkol |
| 02:42.48 | gwho | yeah |
| 02:42.54 | ekcolnovkol | it's just my name backwards |
| 02:42.56 | gwho | sounds russian?.. |
| 02:42.57 | gwho | lol |
| 02:43.02 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 02:43.15 | gwho | lokvonlocke |
| 02:43.34 | gwho | if i want to rotate th ewormhead, do i go to units or actors? |
| 02:43.42 | ekcolnovkol | actors |
| 02:43.43 | gwho | cz ive been modifying on the unit so far |
| 02:43.49 | ekcolnovkol | you could do it in triggers |
| 02:44.05 | gwho | theres a nydus worm actor and nydus worm unit |
| 02:44.09 | gwho | are they the same or differnet? |
| 02:44.17 | ekcolnovkol | different |
| 02:44.51 | gwho | when i place a unti on the map, there is only units and sturctures visible |
| 02:44.52 | gwho | not actors |
| 02:45.04 | casperb | actors are the underlying visuals |
| 02:45.13 | Nevir | The unit defines all the junk that the game needs to know about a unit (health, how it moves, etc) - actors hook the actual art up to the unit |
| 02:45.22 | gwho | oh ok, |
| 02:45.26 | gwho | so in one sense they ar ethe same |
| 02:45.43 | gwho | got it |
| 02:45.45 | casperb | they are related in the graph |
| 02:46.01 | Nevir | Somewhat - an actor can be art for a unit, but actors could also be art for various other things |
| 02:46.23 | Nevir | Just a way to separate the information out so it's interchangeable |
| 02:46.34 | gwho | ic |
| 02:46.57 | gwho | modifying the nydus worm under actors, will affect the actual nydus worm when i place it on the map |
| 02:47.06 | gwho | unti tab, actors tab just modify differnt aspects |
| 02:47.11 | gwho | and blizzard separated them for us |
| 02:47.52 | Alpha_vst | so i sorta got it to work |
| 02:48.07 | Alpha_vst | ie all my links work i think |
| 02:49.26 | Alpha_vst | AND I GOT SOMETHING TO WORK |
| 02:49.28 | Alpha_vst | HOLY SHIT |
| 02:49.41 | Nevir | I don't believe you. |
| 02:50.02 | Alpha_vst | i got the rotating help to work |
| 02:50.07 | Alpha_vst | i think |
| 02:50.08 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 02:50.10 | Nevir | oho |
| 02:51.48 | Alpha_vst | some how i have overwrittin the default settings |
| 02:51.50 | Alpha_vst | wtf |
| 02:51.59 | Alpha_vst | overwritten |
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| 02:53.32 | Alpha_vst | I BROKE SOMETHING |
| 02:53.45 | ekcolnovkol | o.o |
| 02:54.03 | Alpha_vst | i am able to save cahgnes directly to the Default SC2 UI SettingsLiberty.SC2Mod |
| 02:54.14 | Alpha_vst | in my modiffied mod |
| 02:54.24 | Alpha_vst | wtf |
| 02:54.29 | Alpha_vst | how did i |
| 02:54.34 | zrbecker | Is there anyway to stop the in game AI from issueing any commands? |
| 02:55.06 | Alpha_vst | what kinda commands |
| 02:55.11 | Nevir | I'm pretty sure you're just overriding values, Alpha. If you look in your mod's XML files, it'll only have the differences |
| 02:55.22 | Alpha_vst | but why is it working |
| 02:55.28 | zrbecker | If I tell it to attack a unit, and my unit runs off. I don't want it to switch units. |
| 02:55.50 | Alpha_vst | now its not hmmm |
| 02:55.51 | zrbecker | Bleh. If I tell unit A to attack unit B and unit B runs off I don't want unit A to change targets. |
| 02:56.40 | Alpha_vst | i changed it and now it doesnt work :( |
| 02:57.16 | Alpha_vst | i did something i swear but it was all set to test... so i couldnt see it picking new shit |
| 02:57.32 | Alpha_vst | its immpossible to change the help text 0.o |
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| 02:58.33 | Alpha_vst | hmmmmm |
| 02:58.42 | ekcolnovkol | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1983/ |
| 02:58.46 | Alpha_vst | i neeed to figgure this out again |
| 03:02.56 | onetwo | Alpha_vst |
| 03:02.59 | onetwo | maybe reload editor |
| 03:03.04 | onetwo | to prevent the writing into |
| 03:03.07 | onetwo | liberty thing |
| 03:03.19 | Alpha_vst | but its a good thing in case |
| 03:03.21 | gwho | hahahaha |
| 03:03.22 | gwho | nice |
| 03:03.25 | Alpha_vst | its not actually writing to it |
| 03:03.35 | Alpha_vst | its just linking it funny |
| 03:03.41 | Alpha_vst | from what i can tell |
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| 03:09.30 | Alpha_vst | I fixed my mod also |
| 03:09.38 | Alpha_vst | had to cahnge the file list 0.o |
| 03:09.43 | Alpha_vst | i got errors :P |
| 03:10.37 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 03:10.45 | Alpha_vst | i think i broke my mod |
| 03:10.54 | gwho | erm, for camera, it says my value is -1, while the range is 0 to 15 |
| 03:11.07 | gwho | where would i go to fix that? |
| 03:12.28 | Alpha_vst | i need to find out why the first 5 sec or so of my game lags insanly |
| 03:12.58 | Alpha_vst | hopefully this fixes my bnet issue with textures |
| 03:14.29 | Nevir | Lol, there are a ridiculous number of misspelled textures and a ridiculous number of re-copied textures just to fix the names o.O |
| 03:15.00 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 03:15.16 | Nevir | Browse Assets\Textures in Core.SC2Mod & Liberty.SC2Mod |
| 03:15.52 | Nevir | for instance, ui_glossary_<etc> in Core vs ui_gloassary_<etc> |
| 03:15.57 | xgalaxy | they'll probably get cleaned up once retail hits |
| 03:15.58 | Nevir | exact same textures |
| 03:16.08 | onetwo | dont worry, even Apple spells words wrong |
| 03:16.13 | Nevir | BLASPHEMY |
| 03:16.14 | onetwo | theres a method that has "atomatically" |
| 03:16.16 | onetwo | in it |
| 03:16.20 | onetwo | that ive used before |
| 03:16.29 | onetwo | unless thats a word |
| 03:16.31 | onetwo | .. |
| 03:16.32 | onetwo | lol |
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| 03:16.42 | xgalaxy | well |
| 03:16.48 | xgalaxy | atomic is a word |
| 03:16.58 | xgalaxy | did they mean automatically or atomically |
| 03:17.00 | Nevir | The process of being atomic? |
| 03:17.24 | Bifuu | yay my desktop! |
| 03:17.25 | Nevir | Probably a misspelling :P |
| 03:17.27 | Bifuu | >3 |
| 03:17.27 | Bifuu | <3 |
| 03:17.35 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:17.44 | Nevir | reformat or something, Bifuu? |
| 03:17.45 | onetwo | Bifuu and his desktop sitting in a tree |
| 03:17.47 | onetwo | kissing |
| 03:17.56 | onetwo | with extension cord |
| 03:17.56 | onetwo | love |
| 03:18.19 | Bifuu | Nah i got a frien that stays here alot |
| 03:18.25 | Nevir | hah |
| 03:18.27 | Bifuu | and i dont like sitting in my room and leaving him out |
| 03:18.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:18.36 | Bifuu | so i get on his old shitty laptop i put linux on |
| 03:18.51 | Alpha_vst | having sound issues now gah |
| 03:18.59 | Alpha_vst | cant get my awesome music to play :( |
| 03:19.02 | Bifuu | and can barely do anything |
| 03:19.03 | onetwo | Bifuu feat T-Pain - Playin' with extensinz cord girl |
| 03:19.19 | Bifuu | If i could do a song with T-pain id be down with w/e |
| 03:19.26 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 03:19.27 | onetwo | haha |
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| 03:23.50 | onetwo | hHAHAH |
| 03:23.51 | onetwo | commercial on tv |
| 03:23.59 | onetwo | "bengay pain relief with penetrating NUBS" |
| 03:24.01 | onetwo | hahaha nubs |
| 03:24.05 | onetwo | no one knows our internet meaning of that |
| 03:25.00 | Bifuu | http://i.imgur.com/XApOR.png |
| 03:25.02 | Bifuu | Day 1 purcahase |
| 03:25.11 | Alpha_vst | fixed sound issue woot |
| 03:25.42 | RickA | I'm sure you've all heard this one before: How do I reduce the size of a selection circle around a unit? |
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| 03:27.28 | Nevir | Go to its model (or create a new model that is parented to the one you want to modify) and tweak Selection Radius |
| 03:27.40 | RickA | Thanks |
| 03:27.44 | onetwo | wow that helps me too |
| 03:27.48 | onetwo | i didnt even know that |
| 03:27.50 | onetwo | i thought it auto scaled |
| 03:27.53 | onetwo | to actor model |
| 03:27.57 | onetwo | scale |
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| 03:28.05 | onetwo | or maybe it still does |
| 03:28.07 | onetwo | when you scale the actor |
| 03:28.40 | Nevir | that applies to the selection circle, yeah - but if you want the selection actor to scale differently to the actual model, you've gotta tweak it there |
| 03:28.57 | onetwo | ah |
| 03:29.03 | onetwo | well thank you MR SCIENTIST |
| 03:29.04 | onetwo | !!! |
| 03:29.08 | Nevir | Damn right! |
| 03:29.29 | Nevir | Also, if you want to really screw with the game's selection circles, try overriding some of the standard selection actors - you can do some really cool stuff w/ 'em :P |
| 03:29.38 | onetwo | cool |
| 03:30.52 | Alpha_vst | do you know how to move hp bars? |
| 03:31.19 | Alpha_vst | i would really love hp bars on the section on a unit :( |
| 03:31.20 | Nevir | Yeah, in the actor for the unit: UI - Bar Distance/Height/Offset |
| 03:31.29 | Alpha_vst | i know that |
| 03:31.39 | Nevir | Oh, attach them to something else? |
| 03:31.42 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 03:31.59 | Alpha_vst | i looked couldnt find anything dont think you can |
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| 03:32.15 | Nevir | Not sure on that count - the selection actors can handle events, but I'm not sure if you can force them to show bars - they seem a bit restricted |
| 03:33.03 | Alpha_vst | i will look into that a bit |
| 03:34.07 | Alpha_vst | wow you can do a lot with selections 0.o |
| 03:34.15 | Alpha_vst | how do i link that to a unit |
| 03:34.16 | Nevir | Yeah, they're a bit nuts |
| 03:34.21 | Alpha_vst | through events? |
| 03:34.24 | Alpha_vst | or what |
| 03:34.31 | onetwo | Nevir.. you seem experienced with actors |
| 03:34.40 | onetwo | you know the highlight tooltip field |
| 03:34.42 | onetwo | for unit actors |
| 03:34.47 | onetwo | it never actualy shows a tooltip |
| 03:34.51 | onetwo | when you highlight a unit |
| 03:34.56 | onetwo | any idea why? |
| 03:34.58 | Nevir | Yeah... either you're overriding the default selections - which screws with *every* selection of that type, or you're implementing selections all over again for each actor you want to tweak |
| 03:35.18 | Nevir | Haven't played with that one, onetwo :( |
| 03:35.21 | Alpha_vst | lots of work i guess |
| 03:35.24 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 03:35.27 | onetwo | i know theres a trigger to enable tooltip visiblity for a player |
| 03:35.31 | onetwo | :O |
| 03:35.38 | Alpha_vst | but the effort seems worth it now if i can find anything on life |
| 03:37.08 | Nevir | One trick you could try, alpha: see if you can send messages to the selection actors (give them a unique alias, say: "_Selection"), and then try sending tint color messages to it via events on your units |
| 03:37.41 | Nevir | or there might already be an alias to reference selections |
| 03:37.52 | Nevir | (_Selectable is what they attach to, though - not that) |
| 03:38.16 | Alpha_vst | how do i link the selection to a unit? :P |
| 03:38.25 | Nevir | The game's doing that for you |
| 03:38.33 | Alpha_vst | with ones i create? |
| 03:39.46 | Nevir | Ah, best I can think of for that is to remove _Selectable as an alias for the unit so you don't get default selections, and then have a couple events on your actor that create/destroy your custom selection in response to the selection update events |
| 03:40.06 | Nevir | (assuming those events even fire correctly - otherwise you might have to create/destroy the actor w/ triggers :-/) |
| 03:41.30 | Nevir | oh odd, there seems to be a "Set Selection Color" event too |
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| 03:44.29 | Alpha_vst | hmmm |
| 03:44.34 | Alpha_vst | test 1 |
| 03:44.37 | Alpha_vst | starting |
| 03:44.47 | Alpha_vst | or not eak |
| 03:45.04 | Alpha_vst | oh tryed to run my mod |
| 03:45.06 | Alpha_vst | whew |
| 03:45.57 | Alpha_vst | OMG IT WORKS |
| 03:46.12 | Nevir | nice :P |
| 03:46.23 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 03:46.36 | Alpha_vst | all it does right now is leave a marker where the unit was |
| 03:46.38 | Alpha_vst | but |
| 03:46.43 | Alpha_vst | it works |
| 03:47.14 | Alpha_vst | it locks the selection to the world |
| 03:47.18 | Alpha_vst | which is kinda nifty |
| 03:47.20 | Nevir | hah |
| 03:47.31 | Nevir | sounds like the selection isn't correctly attaching to the unit's actor |
| 03:47.37 | Alpha_vst | yeah :P |
| 03:47.42 | Coding_Newb | How would you make a structure invulnerable? I see there is a unit invulnerable in triggers, but how about for structures? |
| 03:47.53 | Alpha_vst | but that opens up a lot of things |
| 03:47.56 | Nevir | there's a unit flag for invulnerable |
| 03:48.08 | Alpha_vst | im going to play with it |
| 03:48.25 | Alpha_vst | i will get the hp bar on the selction |
| 03:48.27 | Alpha_vst | i swear |
| 03:48.29 | Alpha_vst | to go |
| 03:48.30 | Nevir | Do it :) |
| 03:48.44 | Alpha_vst | if i do i will share |
| 03:48.53 | Nevir | If you can modify "Art - Segment percent solid" via triggers or events, I bet you could pull it off in a super cool way |
| 03:48.56 | Alpha_vst | cause it needs to be shared if i do something that epic |
| 03:49.28 | Coding_Newb | great, that was easy..thanks nevir |
| 03:49.40 | Nevir | If you want it to hook onto your unit: give the unit a new alias ("_AwesomeSelectable"), and tweak the selection actor to "Host +" to that alias, and "Host Site Operations +" to SOpAttachOrigin (or for fun: SOpAttachOverhead) |
| 03:49.42 | Nevir | Yup :) |
| 03:50.11 | Alpha_vst | omg your confusing me :P |
| 03:50.13 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/moon-base/. Moon Base. KurorSC (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Bifuu. |
| 03:50.15 | Alpha_vst | but yeah |
| 03:50.46 | Alpha_vst | how would i give it that new alias? |
| 03:51.11 | Nevir | on the unit actor - add alias to "Actor - Aliases" |
| 03:51.24 | Nevir | Note that it's buggy as hell and you have to re-add all the previous aliases because they white out |
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| 03:51.34 | Alpha_vst | oh custom |
| 03:51.38 | Nevir | (add the new one as a custom alias, the old ones from the dropdowns) |
| 03:51.50 | Nevir | Yeah, it'll show up in the dropdown after that |
| 03:52.09 | Alpha_vst | _AwesomeSelectable is the name of my actor right |
| 03:52.23 | AsaPhelps | sounds he's like pretty awesome |
| 03:52.24 | Nevir | That's the name of your alias |
| 03:52.33 | Coding_Newb | hey, i think i messed with the datas for a photon cannon and now its not showing the damage/range when u put your mouse over the icon..any idea how to restore this ?? |
| 03:52.56 | Alpha_vst | how do i link the alias to the actor selection then |
| 03:52.58 | Alpha_vst | gah |
| 03:53.07 | Nevir | and then in the selection actor, add the new alias to Hosting - Host + (the Subject field in that) |
| 03:53.17 | Coding_Newb | i have messed with it a lot, i would rather avoid reset to parent option if possible..just wanna know where i can modify it |
| 03:53.49 | Nevir | Not sure which field that might be, Coding_Newb :( |
| 03:54.00 | Alpha_vst | AHHHH |
| 03:54.05 | Nevir | works? |
| 03:54.08 | Alpha_vst | got it |
| 03:54.18 | Alpha_vst | so that means i dont need the events right? |
| 03:54.21 | Coding_Newb | :( |
| 03:54.29 | Nevir | You still need the events to create/destroy the selection |
| 03:54.41 | Nevir | the aliases just tell it which actor to attach to |
| 03:55.07 | Alpha_vst | but the actor selection has those events |
| 03:55.09 | Alpha_vst | hmmm |
| 03:55.10 | Alpha_vst | test it |
| 03:57.47 | Alpha_vst | wtf |
| 03:57.53 | Alpha_vst | test 3 poped ip |
| 03:58.56 | Alpha_vst | as in my modifed thing worked again |
| 03:59.32 | Nevir | nice! follows the unit around now? |
| 03:59.54 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 03:59.59 | Nevir | oh :( |
| 04:00.01 | Alpha_vst | but it works without the events |
| 04:00.12 | Nevir | oh nice |
| 04:00.27 | Nevir | you created a new selection actor, or are modifying one of the defaults? |
| 04:02.39 | onetwo | wth you guys are still doing this |
| 04:02.40 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:02.46 | Nevir | Hah fun, tweaking the hosting subject ("Hosting - Host Site Operations +") to SOpAttachTarget makes most selection circles at about the arms of each units |
| 04:02.56 | Alpha_vst | created from scratch |
| 04:03.07 | Nevir | Huh; I wonder how it's being created then |
| 04:03.31 | Alpha_vst | it has its own events + |
| 04:03.42 | Nevir | Oh, you're creating it there for a given unit? |
| 04:03.59 | Alpha_vst | yeah probably going to for now |
| 04:04.05 | Nevir | makes sense |
| 04:05.05 | Alpha_vst | im thinking it might be for any unit who has the alias |
| 04:05.05 | heysparky | a data question: can an effect grant an ability? |
| 04:06.06 | Nevir | So far I haven't found a way to, heysparky - I'd love to know as well :( You can enable/disable abilities that already exist on a unit, at least, though |
| 04:06.43 | onetwo | heysparky |
| 04:06.55 | onetwo | hi |
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| 04:07.31 | onetwo | i would suggest giving the unit the ability to start with |
| 04:07.34 | onetwo | then making a requirement |
| 04:07.38 | onetwo | that checks count of behavior on unit |
| 04:07.43 | onetwo | make a dummy Hidden behavior |
| 04:07.45 | onetwo | or buff |
| 04:07.48 | onetwo | that the effect gives |
| 04:07.52 | onetwo | (effect - apply behavior) |
| 04:08.09 | onetwo | so the requirement counts dummy behavior on unit equals to 1 |
| 04:08.11 | onetwo | for Use and Show |
| 04:08.17 | Alpha_vst | ok |
| 04:08.27 | Alpha_vst | so i got that working soem hoe for sure |
| 04:08.29 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 04:08.47 | Alpha_vst | not the selction thing |
| 04:08.59 | Alpha_vst | but the help rotating thing |
| 04:09.13 | Alpha_vst | its rotating though my test1-11 |
| 04:09.15 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 04:10.35 | Alpha_vst | awesome |
| 04:11.20 | Alpha_vst | some how i have a modified(green) Default Sc2 UI settings in my mod linked to the blue(default) settings |
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| 04:12.23 | NeoDeathXp | Hey guys |
| 04:12.44 | Alpha_vst | hey neo |
| 04:13.25 | NeoDeathXp | i got some really cool dialog animation coming soon |
| 04:13.40 | onetwo | yeah ok pal |
| 04:13.43 | onetwo | we all believe you |
| 04:13.55 | NeoDeathXp | =) |
| 04:14.13 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:14.13 | NeoDeathXp | just wait til sunday when i release the video |
| 04:14.18 | Alpha_vst | awesome like |
| 04:14.30 | NeoDeathXp | I'll make beleavers out of all of you =) |
| 04:15.09 | NeoDeathXp | it's the coolest thing sence sliced bread! |
| 04:15.24 | NeoDeathXp | nay! |
| 04:15.31 | NeoDeathXp | pickels! |
| 04:15.45 | NeoDeathXp | ok not pickels... |
| 04:15.46 | onetwo | it has to be in real time HD |
| 04:15.48 | onetwo | or i aint watching |
| 04:15.50 | onetwo | and 3d now |
| 04:15.56 | NeoDeathXp | lol 3d |
| 04:16.07 | NeoDeathXp | ooo |
| 04:16.10 | NeoDeathXp | good idea |
| 04:16.16 | NeoDeathXp | 3d dialog box |
| 04:16.27 | onetwo | does anyone else agree |
| 04:16.31 | onetwo | that makeing units that shoot missiles |
| 04:16.33 | onetwo | is so confusing |
| 04:16.34 | onetwo | the actor part |
| 04:16.47 | NeoDeathXp | yeah |
| 04:17.02 | onetwo | I have an attack actor, attack missile actor, and the unit for it, the mover, the model |
| 04:17.04 | onetwo | such a mess |
| 04:17.05 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:17.48 | NeoDeathXp | oh HON poped! |
| 04:18.08 | slightlyrandom | onetwo: You go figure out how to make construction animations work properly and come back to me with a tutorial |
| 04:18.29 | onetwo | ive never constructed anything yet |
| 04:18.30 | onetwo | :( |
| 04:19.51 | xgalaxy | you doing a video tutorial on missiles? |
| 04:19.54 | slightlyrandom | Thats the problem with you, always tearing things down, never building up |
| 04:19.58 | onetwo | no im working on my RPG |
| 04:19.59 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:20.06 | xgalaxy | :o |
| 04:20.10 | onetwo | yeah im like a brazilian lumber lord |
| 04:20.13 | onetwo | zing |
| 04:20.47 | heysparky | thanks onetwo |
| 04:20.59 | rrowland | yeah man youre like a mouse wearin a hat |
| 04:21.00 | rrowland | zing |
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| 04:22.11 | onetwo | rrowland |
| 04:22.13 | onetwo | you mean like this |
| 04:22.14 | onetwo | http://www.familyguyfiles.com/peters-rat-farm-video/ |
| 04:22.42 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:22.44 | onetwo | i love that clip |
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| 04:27.09 | xgalaxy | haha |
| 04:27.10 | xgalaxy | love it |
| 04:27.43 | onetwo | hah |
| 04:28.05 | Alpha_vst | OMG BREAK THROUGH |
| 04:28.15 | Alpha_vst | I JUST NEED TO GET THIS TO WORK |
| 04:28.17 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 04:28.24 | onetwo | lol rrowland left |
| 04:28.27 | onetwo | my rat farm video |
| 04:28.28 | Alpha_vst | shit fuck shit |
| 04:28.28 | onetwo | destroyed him |
| 04:28.30 | onetwo | emotiaonlly |
| 04:28.40 | onetwo | emotionally |
| 04:29.17 | Alpha_vst | OMG OMG OMG |
| 04:29.25 | Nevir | what'd you get? |
| 04:30.04 | Alpha_vst | i found something |
| 04:30.10 | Alpha_vst | but this isnt linking right :( |
| 04:30.27 | Alpha_vst | i thought it was but its not :( |
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| 04:33.48 | onetwo | hey, whats a good title for something stronger than "Boss". Im making an RPG and I already use Boss "class" to refer to minibosses |
| 04:33.52 | onetwo | but i have "raid bosses" in a way |
| 04:33.55 | onetwo | and need a title for it |
| 04:34.01 | onetwo | megaboss seems to cheesy |
| 04:34.05 | xgalaxy | warlord |
| 04:34.12 | onetwo | hmm |
| 04:34.16 | onetwo | too Orcish |
| 04:34.18 | xgalaxy | lord |
| 04:34.19 | onetwo | but thats close |
| 04:34.21 | onetwo | hmm lord |
| 04:34.40 | xgalaxy | champion |
| 04:34.50 | xgalaxy | devistator |
| 04:34.56 | rrowland | uber boss |
| 04:34.59 | rrowland | the bosses' boss |
| 04:35.04 | rrowland | boss of the bosses |
| 04:35.06 | rrowland | boss boss |
| 04:35.10 | rrowland | BOSS |
| 04:35.11 | xgalaxy | whose the boss |
| 04:35.47 | rrowland | You could rename your minibosses to minibosses |
| 04:36.16 | xgalaxy | legendary |
| 04:36.24 | onetwo | too much work rrowland |
| 04:36.27 | onetwo | i have a lot of units |
| 04:36.28 | onetwo | trigger names |
| 04:36.29 | onetwo | and crap |
| 04:36.30 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:36.39 | onetwo | ooh so i like legendary, champion, and uberboss |
| 04:36.43 | onetwo | what do you guys think? |
| 04:36.57 | xgalaxy | i dont like uberboss |
| 04:37.05 | onetwo | k |
| 04:37.05 | xgalaxy | sounds too internet leet ish |
| 04:37.10 | onetwo | hmm |
| 04:37.17 | onetwo | well theres so many in-jokes in my rpg already |
| 04:37.21 | onetwo | first miniboss is Martul |
| 04:37.26 | xgalaxy | heh |
| 04:37.26 | rrowland | overlord |
| 04:37.27 | onetwo | first big boss is Bashiok |
| 04:37.39 | onetwo | theres a Sixen npc |
| 04:37.40 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:37.40 | RickA | No fair! I was going to use Martul. |
| 04:37.52 | onetwo | use Razernok |
| 04:37.54 | onetwo | or Blayzin |
| 04:37.54 | Sixen | w00t |
| 04:37.55 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 04:38.03 | onetwo | Sixen what you think for final bosses |
| 04:38.06 | onetwo | legendary, or champion |
| 04:38.08 | onetwo | as the class |
| 04:38.10 | onetwo | i cant use "boss" |
| 04:39.06 | Sixen | Champion |
| 04:39.34 | onetwo | k |
| 04:39.45 | Alpha_vst | hmmm i found a way to permanently hide the hp bars... |
| 04:39.53 | Alpha_vst | but blah |
| 04:42.01 | Repo | 10yabot: 03vlovsky * r33 YABOT (9 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 04:42.03 | Repo | [1] Reviewed and restructured so import does not happens more than once for anything but constant variables. Should be kept similar way. |
| 04:42.04 | Repo | [2] Changed order step/stepinput to keep results out of execution queue for all 16 players. |
| 04:42.06 | Repo | [3] Verified validation of all scripts including MapScriptValidate separately. |
| 04:42.07 | Repo | [4] Verified BS_test_chat map, works as yesterday. |
| 04:42.45 | onetwo | yeah, definitely needs to show weapon actors |
| 04:42.49 | onetwo | in the unit tree |
| 04:42.50 | onetwo | in data editor |
| 04:42.56 | onetwo | and weapon movers |
| 04:42.59 | onetwo | like marauder missile |
| 04:43.00 | onetwo | stuff |
| 04:43.02 | onetwo | its hard finding everything |
| 04:43.49 | zrbecker | Can you only have 8 textures in a map or can you add more? |
| 04:43.56 | onetwo | only 8 i believe |
| 04:44.10 | zrbecker | bleh oh well |
| 04:45.15 | `3ICE | use decals to draw textures |
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| 04:49.18 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:50.23 | Alpha_vst | i have a lag issue for some reason :( |
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| 04:51.32 | onetwo | hey is SetOpacity |
| 04:51.34 | onetwo | under actor events |
| 04:51.37 | onetwo | working for anyone? |
| 04:51.42 | onetwo | or am i missing something? |
| 04:52.32 | Nevir | You can't do it on actor create |
| 04:52.34 | Alpha_vst | set opacity for what |
| 04:52.48 | onetwo | the unit |
| 04:52.48 | onetwo | actor |
| 04:52.50 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:52.51 | onetwo | i cant? |
| 04:52.54 | onetwo | on unit birth |
| 04:52.55 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:52.57 | Alpha_vst | hm nevir its not accepting my trigger for secltions :( |
| 04:52.59 | onetwo | when can i do it |
| 04:53.14 | Nevir | The workaround I'm using is to start a 0 sec timer on actor create, and then when that timer finishes set the opacity |
| 04:53.38 | onetwo | . |
| 04:53.39 | onetwo | k |
| 04:53.40 | Nevir | I think it's just because the actor create message fires before the actor's done being set up |
| 04:53.45 | onetwo | damn |
| 04:53.58 | Nevir | and/or it gets reset to 1.0 |
| 04:55.11 | Nevir | Ugh. Is there any event fired when the user opens/closes one of the main modal dialogs (main menu, log, help)? It's really irking me that my custom dialog items don't grey out when they're up |
| 04:55.39 | onetwo | i thought there is? |
| 04:55.45 | onetwo | cant you detect when a player hits a hotkey too |
| 04:56.00 | Nevir | Going back to check, I'm probably blind :) |
| 04:56.07 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.16 | Nevir | ooh |
| 04:58.11 | Nevir | agh. it fires when you *return* from the main menu |
| 04:58.24 | Nevir | or well, right |
| 04:58.29 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:58.31 | Nevir | when you press a button in the menu, not pull it up |
| 04:58.32 | Nevir | hmm |
| 05:00.44 | Nevir | No dice, aside from mouse clicks - and that's not worth the lag |
| 05:01.15 | onetwo | aye |
| 05:04.39 | Alpha_vst | im getting wierd shit man |
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| 05:07.19 | Nevir | like what? |
| 05:07.23 | Bifuu | hides because Sixen is here |
| 05:07.33 | Alpha_vst | hmmm nothing i want to happen |
| 05:07.58 | Nevir | That's how all the maps work, though :P |
| 05:08.00 | Bifuu | Then ur doin it wrong |
| 05:08.09 | Bifuu | ry doin it rite |
| 05:08.15 | Alpha_vst | i got the selection to show with triggers though |
| 05:08.23 | Alpha_vst | so it has to be possible in just data |
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| 05:08.54 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/battlenet-lag-painter/. Battlenet Lag Painter. progammer (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 05:09.09 | Nevir | Well, assuming the correct events are firing |
| 05:09.37 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/oil-spill/. Oil Spill. ComatoseSoul (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Bifuu. |
| 05:10.07 | Nevir | lawl at the lag painter map |
| 05:10.15 | Bifuu | lol yeah |
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| 05:12.18 | Alpha_vst | HOLY SHIT |
| 05:12.35 | heysparky | if I want to give a unit a particular model that a doodad has, how do I get at it? |
| 05:12.41 | Alpha_vst | super spinning awesomeness |
| 05:12.43 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 05:13.17 | Nevir | Spins are awesome :) |
| 05:13.21 | Alpha_vst | change the model on the actor |
| 05:13.36 | Alpha_vst | to that of the actor on the doodad |
| 05:13.47 | heysparky | yes, but how do I get to the particular variation? |
| 05:13.49 | Alpha_vst | to the model of the actor |
| 05:13.54 | Alpha_vst | oh |
| 05:14.05 | Alpha_vst | well it well randomly pick one |
| 05:14.15 | Nevir | variations are separate model files |
| 05:14.16 | heysparky | bah |
| 05:14.24 | Nevir | make a new model that parents to the one you're trying to force |
| 05:14.28 | Alpha_vst | you can create a new model |
| 05:14.35 | Nevir | and then browse the model files |
| 05:14.36 | Alpha_vst | and give it the correct version |
| 05:14.46 | heysparky | okay, thanks folks |
| 05:15.27 | Alpha_vst | http://i45.tinypic.com/14l6f0n.jpg that red thing is a section |
| 05:15.30 | Nevir | you can also set the # of variations to 1 in the original model if you want to lock it to the first variation |
| 05:15.32 | Alpha_vst | and it spins |
| 05:15.33 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 05:15.36 | Nevir | nice :D |
| 05:15.40 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 05:15.43 | Alpha_vst | not what i want |
| 05:15.46 | Alpha_vst | but yeah |
| 05:15.51 | Nevir | I've also had limited luck changing the model of selections - splats seem to work |
| 05:16.12 | Nevir | doesn't work w/ the other settings, though |
| 05:16.19 | Nevir | just ends up tinting them |
| 05:18.43 | Alpha_vst | omg |
| 05:19.25 | heysparky | I know what variation I want... how do I force it, now? |
| 05:19.40 | Nevir | in the model just change the model file to the one you want |
| 05:19.54 | Nevir | and set # of variations to 1 |
| 05:19.57 | heysparky | done, but it's got 6 variations, I want 6 |
| 05:20.02 | heysparky | #6 |
| 05:20.09 | Nevir | hmm |
| 05:20.24 | Alpha_vst | make a new model you can select the variation |
| 05:20.37 | heysparky | I did make a new model |
| 05:20.46 | heysparky | well, I copied it |
| 05:21.08 | Alpha_vst | edit the model field |
| 05:21.15 | Nevir | well, for example - for a dark templar: the base model is Assets\Units\Protoss\DarkTemplar\DarkTemplar.m3 But if you want the 2nd variation, you change that to Assets\Units\Protoss\DarkTemplar\DarkTemplar_01.m3 |
| 05:21.23 | Alpha_vst | you should see a folder of your object |
| 05:21.29 | Alpha_vst | and the variants are inside it |
| 05:21.36 | Alpha_vst | pick the variant you want |
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| 05:22.09 | heysparky | oh, I was halfway there |
| 05:22.11 | heysparky | duh |
| 05:22.32 | Nevir | Hmmmmm! Is there a way to open the main menu/message log/help for the user? |
| 05:22.37 | heysparky | okay, how do I attach another unit to it (I want to attach an omni light) |
| 05:22.46 | heysparky | (also - thanks!) |
| 05:24.57 | Nevir | attachments are a bit more involved - you want to create a model actor, usually. From there, modify it's "Hosting - Host +" to _Unit, and set a site operator (start with SOpAttachOrigin or SOpAttachTarget). Then, in your unit's main actor, add a new event: "Actor Create: Create <Name of model actor>" |
| 05:25.30 | onetwo | wow Nevir thats nice |
| 05:25.34 | onetwo | you really should do actor tutorials |
| 05:25.38 | onetwo | even i have trouble with that |
| 05:25.45 | Nevir | An example actor would be "Carry High Yield Mineral Field Minerals" |
| 05:26.19 | Nevir | Yeah, definitely will have to get around to doing some tutorials & documentation. Gotta finish my map first so I've got a better idea of other parts of the editor :P |
| 05:32.05 | heysparky | thanks Nevir |
| 05:32.19 | Nevir | yup :) |
| 05:32.47 | davidcramer` | Nevir: Ian? |
| 05:33.00 | Nevir | You dirty hooker :) |
| 05:33.03 | davidcramer` | haha |
| 05:33.09 | Nevir | Still down in Cali? |
| 05:33.14 | davidcramer` | just moved back last month |
| 05:33.18 | Nevir | oho |
| 05:33.34 | davidcramer` | Still at King of books? |
| 05:33.44 | Nevir | Damn right, and working myself to death as always |
| 05:33.46 | davidcramer` | :) |
| 05:34.02 | davidcramer` | thats how it is for me now |
| 05:34.29 | Nevir | Figured I'd give this scene a whirl, welcome (unless you've beaten me here :P) |
| 05:34.46 | davidcramer` | Nevir: Nibbits.com is mine, so been around for a while :) |
| 05:34.52 | Nevir | oh, gotcha |
| 05:35.21 | Nevir | Heh, seems similar to a certain other network you did |
| 05:35.29 | davidcramer` | haha probably |
| 05:35.32 | davidcramer` | I'm not too creative ;) |
| 05:35.52 | Nevir | Eh, you've got the drive - nice job man |
| 05:36.31 | davidcramer` | I wish, the site pretty much runs itself. Done like 3 lines of code in the last 2 months on it :) |
| 05:36.48 | davidcramer` | too busy with life now :) |
| 05:37.10 | Nevir | Yeh |
| 05:39.34 | heysparky | Nev, when you say 'create a model actor' do you mean create a model that has what I want to attach? |
| 05:40.05 | Nevir | ah, sorry - you only need to create the model if you want to customize it |
| 05:40.10 | Nevir | but there's a "model" actor type |
| 05:40.25 | Nevir | That ties the actual model to whatever unit actor you want to attach it to |
| 05:40.50 | Nevir | The number of steps to do some things are a bit ridiculous in the editor :P |
| 05:41.56 | Nevir | ahaha! If you place a button over the main menu - *it opens the menu* rather than pressing your button. I can make my UI fade after all! |
| 05:41.56 | heysparky | so I don't need to add a new model? |
| 05:42.19 | Nevir | nope |
| 05:42.33 | Nevir | not if there's a model already there for ya |
| 05:43.06 | Nevir | Ah curses, I spoke too soon about my menu button thing :( |
| 05:44.15 | heysparky | so... the model exists... all I need to do is add a new Event on the Unit's Actor? |
| 05:44.22 | heysparky | the attachment model exists, I meant |
| 05:44.40 | Nevir | Nay, you need to create a new actor first, that's a "model actor" |
| 05:45.08 | Nevir | and in that new actor, set its model to the one you want to use |
| 05:45.45 | heysparky | gotcha |
| 05:46.03 | heysparky | so many of these terms are ones I normally use interchangably... I get mixed up :) |
| 05:46.12 | Nevir | ah, you should probably base it off of "ModelAddition" rather than the default CActorModel |
| 05:46.17 | Nevir | Yeah, it's a bit nuts :P |
| 05:46.30 | Nevir | err CActorModel |
| 05:46.54 | heysparky | I found it... now trying to get the model attached (omni light) |
| 05:46.59 | Nevir | Yeah, definitely base it off of that, or it probably won't attach at all |
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| 05:47.12 | Nevir | Alright, so you have two options, and I really am not sure which is "best" |
| 05:47.35 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 05:47.43 | Nevir | #1: you can have the newly created actor create its self when your unit is born, or #2, your unit's actor can create the attachment |
| 05:48.02 | Nevir | Really, it's wherever you think it makes the most sense, or is easiest to tweak in the future |
| 05:48.18 | Alpha_vst | unti birth is easy mode |
| 05:49.07 | heysparky | those options are equally opaque to me |
| 05:49.12 | Nevir | Heh |
| 05:49.19 | Nevir | Let's go with the first one then |
| 05:49.40 | Nevir | in your new actor - open up the "Events - Events +" (you familiar w/ editing them yet, or want some extra tips?) |
| 05:49.49 | heysparky | which new actor? |
| 05:49.58 | heysparky | the attachment |
| 05:50.00 | Nevir | yeah |
| 05:50.04 | heysparky | k |
| 05:50.23 | Nevir | You want a new event: "UnitBirth.<name of unit>: Create" |
| 05:50.25 | heysparky | okay with editing events |
| 05:50.27 | Nevir | and that *should* do it |
| 05:50.39 | Nevir | I'm sure I've forgotten something, though :-/ |
| 05:50.41 | heysparky | name of unit is the unit to which the attachment attches? |
| 05:50.46 | Nevir | yeah |
| 05:51.54 | Nevir | if you're previewing these in the editor, make sure you (re)place your unit |
| 05:52.37 | Alpha_vst | it updates most of the time |
| 05:52.45 | heysparky | bah, now I can't browse to the right model |
| 05:52.49 | heysparky | ugh |
| 05:53.18 | Nevir | Might as well make a new model entry then, heh. Just have to point those to the correct model file |
| 05:55.53 | heysparky | wow, it worked! |
| 05:56.00 | Nevir | Awesome :) |
| 05:56.11 | Nevir | Did it attach to the right location on the unit's actor, or do you need to move it around? |
| 05:56.20 | heysparky | It made my stomach flipflop... seriously, revelling in the little abilities |
| 05:56.26 | heysparky | abilities = achievements |
| 05:56.35 | Nevir | Yar - that one gives folk a lot of trouble |
| 05:56.35 | heysparky | yeah, it's located fine |
| 05:56.39 | Nevir | perfect |
| 05:57.01 | heysparky | awesome |
| 05:57.05 | heysparky | ty |
| 05:57.08 | Nevir | yup |
| 05:57.21 | heysparky | (goes to edit her 'Special Thanks' credits) |
| 05:57.28 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 05:57.30 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 05:57.38 | Nevir | Huzzah! One step closer to world domination! |
| 05:57.39 | heysparky | You're in there Alpha |
| 05:57.45 | Alpha_vst | awwwwwww |
| 05:57.52 | Alpha_vst | idono why but thanks :P |
| 05:58.06 | heysparky | you've helped me with stuff |
| 05:58.12 | Alpha_vst | i try |
| 05:58.15 | Alpha_vst | i mostly talk |
| 05:58.21 | heysparky | I didn't take notes on everything, but if you're in there, you solved a problem for me :) |
| 05:58.30 | heysparky | or helped me solve one |
| 05:58.32 | Nevir | Now and again, there's some gems, Alpha. Monkeys at a keyboard and all that :P |
| 05:58.38 | heysparky | lol |
| 06:01.12 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 06:01.14 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 06:01.20 | Nevir | ;) |
| 06:01.38 | Alpha_vst | doesnt look like im getting this selection thing |
| 06:01.40 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 06:01.48 | Nevir | the health thing? |
| 06:02.05 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 06:02.24 | Alpha_vst | i need rest goodnight |
| 06:02.26 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 06:02.32 | Nevir | night |
| 06:02.42 | heysparky | gnight Alpha |
| 06:12.01 | heysparky | What is King of Books? |
| 06:12.38 | Nevir | Hah :P I work for Amazon |
| 06:13.34 | heysparky | aaaah |
| 06:15.55 | heysparky | booo... burrowing critters can't carry cargo |
| 06:17.04 | heysparky | that blows! |
| 06:17.35 | Nevir | Now that's a very specific thing to try :P I wonder if you could cheat that by making the "burrowed" version of the unit a flying unit instead, drop it down to ground level, and immobilize it |
| 06:18.19 | heysparky | would the burrowed decal work, I'm betting 'no.' |
| 06:18.26 | Nevir | Hmm, I think it would |
| 06:18.39 | heysparky | I'll give it a shot |
| 06:18.42 | Nevir | You might have to just fake it by making it as another model actor |
| 06:19.09 | Nevir | Or perhaps a splat actor |
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| 06:19.22 | heysparky | what's a splat? |
| 06:19.53 | Nevir | Apparently it's Blizzard's very technical term for a texture that's projected onto the terrain (building shadows, etc) |
| 06:20.09 | heysparky | ah |
| 06:20.12 | Nevir | like the burn marks that terran buildings make |
| 06:20.15 | heysparky | okay |
| 06:20.41 | heysparky | right, or the shadowy crater cracks of a burrowed zergling |
| 06:20.47 | Nevir | Hopefully :) |
| 06:22.22 | Nevir | Hah. Yeah, the borrowed effects are all splats - you might not have to do anything special for it |
| 06:30.04 | Nevir | Actually, something possibly easier: did you add the cargo behavior to *both* the regular unit and the burrowed version of the unit? |
| 06:30.52 | heysparky | ohhhhh.. duh |
| 06:30.52 | heysparky | yeah |
| 06:30.55 | heysparky | good call |
| 06:31.11 | onetwo | hey, so should my champion boss fights (basically WoW raid style bosses) respawn after e.g. 5-10 mins, or should they never respawn |
| 06:31.15 | onetwo | only once per game |
| 06:31.19 | onetwo | cause my regular units respawn |
| 06:31.53 | Nevir | What do players win from killing the bosses? |
| 06:32.32 | onetwo | quest completion |
| 06:32.33 | heysparky | good call, Nevir |
| 06:32.34 | onetwo | items |
| 06:32.35 | onetwo | exp |
| 06:32.38 | Nevir | hah, nice! |
| 06:32.40 | heysparky | works |
| 06:32.49 | onetwo | opinion? |
| 06:32.54 | Nevir | Hmm |
| 06:33.02 | Triceron | I was thinking |
| 06:33.09 | Triceron | if you're gonna have repeat kill options |
| 06:33.22 | Triceron | throw in some 'hard mode' stuff. |
| 06:33.39 | onetwo | well this is a level 5 boss |
| 06:33.41 | Triceron | I loved that about WoW's latest dungeon design. Optional hard modes |
| 06:33.41 | Nevir | Are players working together or against each other? |
| 06:33.42 | onetwo | if they want hardmode |
| 06:33.43 | onetwo | they can go level up |
| 06:33.47 | onetwo | to level 30 |
| 06:33.48 | onetwo | haah |
| 06:34.00 | onetwo | i havent played wow since november 2004+2.5 years |
| 06:34.07 | onetwo | whats hard mode? |
| 06:34.12 | onetwo | together Nevir |
| 06:34.46 | Triceron | Hardmode is fighting the same boss, but with a twist |
| 06:34.49 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:34.54 | Triceron | and you get better rewards out of it |
| 06:34.58 | onetwo | well maybe ill do that for the level 30 bosses |
| 06:35.01 | onetwo | but this is still an infancy boss |
| 06:35.02 | onetwo | level 5 |
| 06:35.18 | onetwo | 6 player coop RPG Nevir |
| 06:35.25 | onetwo | maybe it shouldnt respawn |
| 06:35.26 | onetwo | so players move on |
| 06:35.29 | Triceron | say one boss is a dragon that spews fire on the ground, and you have a special encounter item to put it out; or the fire is permanent on the ground |
| 06:35.37 | Triceron | the hard mode might be kill the boss without using that item |
| 06:35.40 | Nevir | I'm on the fence. On one hand, it's great to let players experience it again if they want to. On the other hand, it might keep players grinding and in one portion of the map |
| 06:35.41 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:35.42 | Triceron | so you have to deal with fire on the ground |
| 06:35.51 | Triceron | it's the same encounter |
| 06:35.53 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:36.03 | Triceron | but different mechanic, different methods to fight, better rewards |
| 06:36.04 | onetwo | well Nevir, yeah so if i made respawn long enough, they'd go rehost anyway |
| 06:36.14 | onetwo | and now this comes back to my other issue of game lobbies |
| 06:36.20 | onetwo | if someone wants to do boss XX run |
| 06:36.24 | onetwo | he cant speficiy lobby name |
| 06:36.25 | onetwo | to say this |
| 06:36.30 | Triceron | yeah |
| 06:36.31 | onetwo | id have to add game modes in advance |
| 06:36.32 | Triceron | that's what kinda sucks |
| 06:36.49 | Nevir | I have the suspicion that they're going to expose game variants in the lobby |
| 06:36.59 | Triceron | I've been having ideas for an RPG |
| 06:37.04 | Triceron | where your character doesn't level up |
| 06:37.08 | onetwo | :O |
| 06:37.10 | Triceron | but rather it'd just be based on gear |
| 06:37.16 | onetwo | be revolutionary imo :D |
| 06:37.21 | onetwo | my RPG is VERY cookie cutter |
| 06:37.22 | Nevir | oho, that'd actually be pretty novel |
| 06:37.24 | Triceron | so you can start any game, and as long as you have the gear, you can catch up |
| 06:37.28 | onetwo | im trying to create a very standard rpg |
| 06:37.32 | Triceron | that's what monster Hunter is like |
| 06:37.34 | onetwo | so wild stuff is always fun |
| 06:37.40 | Triceron | cept Monster Hunter is FREAKIN HARD if you don't have gear. |
| 06:37.56 | Nevir | have gear give new abilities |
| 06:38.07 | Triceron | cuz the problem with RPGs if you have any sort of save state |
| 06:38.09 | Nevir | I guess somewhat dota-esque, but more reliance on it |
| 06:38.10 | Triceron | is if you play with someone new |
| 06:38.13 | Triceron | you gotta start over |
| 06:38.17 | Triceron | yeah |
| 06:38.35 | Triceron | and instead of leveling up abilities, you get abilities tied to armor |
| 06:38.42 | Nevir | Do it :) |
| 06:38.43 | Triceron | so you'd want to get different armors for different abilities |
| 06:39.10 | Nevir | Heh. You could give them weaknesses too. Gain ability X, but fighting against Y gets more difficult |
| 06:39.22 | Triceron | yah |
| 06:39.27 | Triceron | risk vs reward |
| 06:39.28 | Nevir | Make players really think about their upgrade choices |
| 06:39.41 | Triceron | I can't map tho, so it won't ever happen :P |
| 06:40.33 | Triceron | maybe if there were templates available to modify |
| 06:40.39 | P_R_Deltoid | there was a wc3 map like that |
| 06:40.43 | Triceron | or i the galaxy editor gets more user friendly |
| 06:40.47 | P_R_Deltoid | it was called "The Magica" |
| 06:41.21 | Triceron | cuz it's a whole different game if exp wasn't based on kills |
| 06:41.27 | Triceron | your goal doesn't become kill everything |
| 06:41.32 | Triceron | it becomes kill the thing you need quickest |
| 06:41.43 | Triceron | so you try to avoid what you don't need to kill, whatever wastes your time |
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| 06:41.50 | Triceron | so you can design some enemies to do just that |
| 06:44.23 | onetwo | one thing i want to figure out |
| 06:44.30 | onetwo | is doing a gold pickup powerup |
| 06:44.31 | onetwo | like in war3 |
| 06:44.32 | onetwo | the gold coins |
| 06:44.36 | onetwo | you could click |
| 06:44.39 | onetwo | and your hero would get +money |
| 06:44.57 | Triceron | can't you do it like what skizot did for Terran Conflict? |
| 06:45.05 | Triceron | a turret that autotargets player |
| 06:45.05 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:45.07 | onetwo | what did he do? |
| 06:45.12 | Triceron | you walk close enough |
| 06:45.17 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:45.18 | onetwo | well |
| 06:45.22 | onetwo | i want to use the powerup way i guess |
| 06:45.26 | onetwo | more offficial? |
| 06:45.28 | Triceron | the turret 'fires' at the player, killing itself |
| 06:45.32 | Triceron | and giving you the money |
| 06:45.36 | onetwo | i think our items knowledge in community is weak atm |
| 06:45.39 | onetwo | gotta try and build it up |
| 06:45.40 | onetwo | :D |
| 06:45.58 | Clord | I think trigger to check when such item comes to inventory |
| 06:45.59 | Clord | and voila |
| 06:46.03 | Clord | ^^ |
| 06:46.49 | Clord | but if it is solo map or no allies etc |
| 06:46.58 | Clord | just coming close is more user friendly |
| 06:47.05 | Clord | as you have no potential allies who want them |
| 06:47.06 | Clord | ^^ |
| 06:49.59 | davidcramer` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpFzpF0msrU&feature=player_embedded |
| 06:52.10 | onetwo | lol cool |
| 06:52.21 | onetwo | ive found on my ipod touch that i just cant get into that style of control |
| 06:52.24 | onetwo | using a "fake" dpad |
| 06:52.29 | onetwo | drawn on corner of screen |
| 06:52.32 | onetwo | i always slide away from it |
| 06:52.39 | onetwo | and it covers some units or something |
| 06:52.40 | onetwo | etc |
| 06:52.50 | onetwo | i think some games that are on the iphone platform just shouldnt be |
| 06:52.57 | onetwo | even if it says "call of duty" you play it for 1 second |
| 06:53.00 | onetwo | because of controls |
| 06:53.02 | onetwo | compared to PC/mouse |
| 06:53.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:53.12 | onetwo | now an RTS.... that could work well on ipad/ipod/iphone |
| 06:53.14 | onetwo | imo |
| 06:54.47 | davidcramer` | onetwo: ya i ahted games like that |
| 06:54.50 | davidcramer` | but some games could work well |
| 06:54.54 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:54.59 | davidcramer` | and OnLive is just a service so you can play those same games on PC/MicroConsole |
| 06:54.59 | heysparky | what attribute is it that makes units obstruct when getting unloaded from transports? |
| 06:55.03 | davidcramer` | as long as their tech works out :) |
| 06:55.06 | davidcramer` | its supposed to launch friday |
| 06:55.06 | onetwo | i think farming type games work excellent |
| 06:55.09 | onetwo | click games like RTS |
| 06:55.10 | onetwo | would thrive |
| 06:55.16 | davidcramer` | ya |
| 06:55.17 | davidcramer` | some rpgs |
| 06:55.24 | onetwo | like diablo 2 |
| 06:55.26 | onetwo | would be perfect imo |
| 06:55.26 | davidcramer` | games where response time doesnt need tobe amazingly fast |
| 06:55.28 | onetwo | on ipad |
| 06:55.32 | davidcramer` | and that only need 2 fingers |
| 06:55.37 | onetwo | single player D2 |
| 06:55.47 | onetwo | maybe... |
| 06:55.51 | onetwo | you hand could get in the way |
| 06:55.52 | onetwo | i guess |
| 06:56.35 | davidcramer` | ya really depends on the game |
| 06:56.38 | davidcramer` | but definitely cool |
| 06:57.14 | onetwo | yes |
| 07:03.17 | Nevir | heysparky: are you seeing units stacking on top of each other, or very bunched up? bit cofused |
| 07:04.03 | Nevir | Can't wait for OnLive to take off, too :P |
| 07:05.27 | Nevir | IMO games where response time is critical will just adapt to the latency (get a bit more permissive about predicting/trusting clients - especially since the platform's quite a bit easier to manage) |
| 07:07.10 | Clord | that IPad player what tests onlive with it... tells controls are really close |
| 07:07.12 | Clord | LOL |
| 07:07.20 | Clord | maybe console users call those good controls for FPS game |
| 07:07.51 | Nevir | ... try playing Geometry Wars for iPad - it's freakin' difficult |
| 07:08.24 | Clord | yeah but lol.. that was nice marketing talk |
| 07:08.32 | Clord | because he knows even itself controls can't come really close |
| 07:08.35 | Clord | with that interface |
| 07:10.32 | Nevir | Yeah, but their iPad cilent is only one of the ways to play those games - it's probably more geared to touch-friendly games anyway. OnLive runs on your computer and is coming out with a full on console, too |
| 07:13.06 | Sixen | I'm alive. |
| 07:13.26 | Nevir | ! |
| 07:13.43 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 07:13.48 | onetwo | im almost done my bashiok boss encounter |
| 07:13.52 | onetwo | since its a level 5 champion |
| 07:13.57 | onetwo | his only special is he sends out frost bolts |
| 07:13.59 | onetwo | every 15 secs |
| 07:14.26 | Clord | hehe... as long they support mouse and keyboard I can give onlive chance in future when it comes to us europeans as planned |
| 07:14.39 | Sixen | lol |
| 07:14.42 | Sixen | You named him Bashiok? |
| 07:14.51 | onetwo | yeah |
| 07:14.53 | Nevir | Haha |
| 07:14.54 | onetwo | my whole game is inside jokes |
| 07:15.03 | onetwo | image incoming Sixen |
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| 07:17.32 | Sixen | =] |
| 07:17.43 | onetwo | k hes supposed to be |
| 07:17.44 | onetwo | 50% visible |
| 07:17.47 | onetwo | but for some reason just now |
| 07:17.53 | onetwo | he lost his opacity |
| 07:17.54 | onetwo | thing |
| 07:17.59 | Sixen | np :P |
| 07:18.19 | onetwo | http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9440/bashiok.jpg |
| 07:18.23 | onetwo | private dungeon haha |
| 07:18.38 | Nevir | Hah nice |
| 07:18.53 | onetwo | fyi heroes are about 1/3 that size |
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| 07:19.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:19.12 | onetwo | Bashiok is HUGE |
| 07:19.13 | Nevir | Is that red lighting a doodad or something you placed? Good contrast w/ it |
| 07:19.14 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:19.24 | onetwo | its a light omni [red] |
| 07:19.26 | Sixen | Hah |
| 07:19.26 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 07:19.29 | Sixen | Let's remake D3. |
| 07:19.30 | heysparky | hey, sorry, grabbed some coffee -- Nevir, yes, the units stack on top of one another as they come out of the transport |
| 07:19.30 | onetwo | i place a lot of custom lighting |
| 07:19.37 | onetwo | like the blue lighting on left cliff wall |
| 07:19.41 | onetwo | is fake blue omni lights too |
| 07:19.45 | onetwo | cause it was dark and bland |
| 07:20.02 | Nevir | Mess around with "Movement - Separation Radius" on the unit entries |
| 07:20.16 | heysparky | man, how do you know all this Nev? |
| 07:20.18 | heysparky | :) |
| 07:20.40 | Nevir | Many, many hours spent cursing all that is Blizz |
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| 07:20.48 | ekcolnovkol | hey sixen |
| 07:20.52 | ekcolnovkol | it's begun :D |
| 07:21.10 | ekcolnovkol | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3718-starcraft-ii-dot-a-storm-of-the-imperial-sanctum/#p4 |
| 07:21.30 | heysparky | well, if it matters, if you ever want to make something transportable it has to have the Move Ability (and accelleration and speed) and it CAN'T have a footprint |
| 07:21.34 | Sixen | Oh that's awesome. |
| 07:21.37 | Sixen | And it's not a rick roll? |
| 07:21.43 | ekcolnovkol | no <<" |
| 07:21.54 | Sixen | That's awesome, :) |
| 07:21.58 | Sixen | Front page material |
| 07:21.58 | ekcolnovkol | i didn't hang out here for a week just to make a second rickroll ;/ |
| 07:22.02 | ekcolnovkol | do it |
| 07:22.07 | Nevir | That *is* good to know, I haven't gotten around to building many units from the basics up, but I will need to soon |
| 07:23.17 | onetwo | hey ekcolnovkol |
| 07:23.20 | Sixen | :P |
| 07:23.21 | ekcolnovkol | yas? |
| 07:23.24 | onetwo | item shops |
| 07:23.26 | onetwo | howd you do it |
| 07:23.29 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:23.29 | onetwo | Train? |
| 07:23.31 | ekcolnovkol | no |
| 07:23.37 | onetwo | non triggers |
| 07:23.38 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:23.47 | onetwo | i saw some dialog buttons there |
| 07:23.51 | ekcolnovkol | item shops are 1/2 triggers, 1/2 data |
| 07:23.55 | onetwo | damnit |
| 07:23.56 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:23.57 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:24.01 | onetwo | i want to figure out the proper way |
| 07:24.06 | onetwo | replicating wc3 |
| 07:24.08 | ekcolnovkol | triggers don't mean it's improper |
| 07:24.09 | onetwo | exactly |
| 07:24.10 | onetwo | through data |
| 07:24.14 | ekcolnovkol | they can do things that data cannot |
| 07:24.17 | onetwo | true |
| 07:24.21 | onetwo | but i want it to be trigger-independant |
| 07:24.24 | onetwo | as was possible |
| 07:24.25 | onetwo | in war3 |
| 07:24.29 | ekcolnovkol | don't be so hard on triggers lol |
| 07:24.36 | onetwo | oh i love triggers |
| 07:24.37 | ekcolnovkol | remember, sc2 is not the same as wc3 |
| 07:24.46 | ekcolnovkol | and dialogs make better item menus than the UI :P |
| 07:24.50 | onetwo | thats true |
| 07:25.08 | onetwo | which makes me interested how campaign will be |
| 07:25.09 | Nevir | onetwo: Make heavy use of the Catalog reading functions with your triggers, so they just build upon what the game already does, but you still do all your configuration & tweaking in the data editor (where it makes sense) |
| 07:25.17 | onetwo | hmmm |
| 07:25.24 | onetwo | well i do all my stuff in data editor already |
| 07:25.27 | onetwo | just my buying is messed up |
| 07:25.31 | onetwo | the Interact |
| 07:25.33 | onetwo | and Train |
| 07:25.34 | onetwo | thing |
| 07:25.38 | onetwo | that you do to do buying of items |
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| 07:26.25 | ekcolnovkol | what's messed up about it |
| 07:27.20 | onetwo | let me find my post |
| 07:28.03 | onetwo | "I still have an issue if I have a weapon already (in equip-weapon slot), and then I go buy a weapon from the shop... it appears on the ground (I have one equip-weapon slot, and then 32 slots for anything... yet the bought weapon doesn't go to "anything" area, it goes to the ground)." |
| 07:28.13 | onetwo | 32 slots INCLUDE weapons |
| 07:28.19 | onetwo | and it goes to the ground |
| 07:28.44 | ekcolnovkol | well triggers would take care of that quite easily <<" |
| 07:28.48 | onetwo | if i drop my main weapon then pick them up manually |
| 07:28.50 | onetwo | it goes nicely into inventory |
| 07:28.54 | onetwo | i totally agree they would |
| 07:29.02 | ekcolnovkol | you don't have to stress yourself to pack everything in the data editor |
| 07:29.04 | onetwo | but id like to think (as blizz has campaign done) that its possible |
| 07:29.05 | onetwo | in data |
| 07:29.25 | ekcolnovkol | for something like this yeah that makes sense |
| 07:29.44 | ekcolnovkol | but wouldn't you rather find a solution before optimizing it for efficiency? |
| 07:30.01 | ekcolnovkol | that way your map is finished, and then you can refine the dirty bits |
| 07:30.07 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 07:30.07 | onetwo | hmmm |
| 07:30.17 | onetwo | well it would require faking |
| 07:30.21 | ekcolnovkol | triggers aren't faking |
| 07:30.22 | onetwo | right now you walk up to 3 range of shop |
| 07:30.28 | onetwo | items show |
| 07:30.31 | onetwo | you purchase item |
| 07:30.35 | onetwo | it goes into inventory |
| 07:30.38 | onetwo | id have to fake it |
| 07:30.44 | onetwo | sometimes |
| 07:30.47 | onetwo | id have to remove purchased item |
| 07:30.51 | onetwo | then create item for hero |
| 07:30.52 | onetwo | trigger |
| 07:31.00 | onetwo | and maybe that would magically fix it |
| 07:31.01 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:31.10 | onetwo | wtf is this email |
| 07:31.12 | ekcolnovkol | it's not fake if it works imo |
| 07:31.12 | onetwo | Invitation from Multiplyâ From: Aan Beny (via Multiply) (multiply@multiply.com) |
| 07:31.19 | ekcolnovkol | o_O |
| 07:31.20 | onetwo | Your friend Aan Beny has invited you to join Multiply Multiply makes it easy to create, share and discuss your blog, photos, videos and music with more of the people you know, and less of the people you don't. |
| 07:31.24 | onetwo | what is Multiply |
| 07:31.27 | onetwo | it didnt mark as spam |
| 07:31.30 | onetwo | i have no idea who Aan Beny is |
| 07:31.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:31.32 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:31.36 | ekcolnovkol | spam is spam |
| 07:31.46 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:31.51 | ekcolnovkol | why is it called spam anyway ;/ spam is delicious |
| 07:32.04 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:32.09 | onetwo | and youtube messed up a comment email |
| 07:32.10 | onetwo | should be |
| 07:32.15 | onetwo | DuraBoom has made a comment on WoW Camera & Controls Part 4 (Starcraft 2 Editor Tutorial): |
| 07:32.19 | onetwo | it comes in my email as |
| 07:32.24 | onetwo | Comment posted on "WoW Camera & Controls Part 4 (Starcraft 2 Editor Tutorial)"â |
| 07:32.28 | onetwo | haha & amp |
| 07:32.35 | onetwo | theyre pushing audio products on me |
| 07:33.01 | ekcolnovkol | i thought amp was a drink |
| 07:33.04 | xgalaxy | oh man between sc2 and civ5 i'm gonna have no time to do anything else |
| 07:33.16 | ekcolnovkol | flip a coin and choose |
| 07:33.22 | ekcolnovkol | it's what two-face does o.o |
| 07:33.28 | Nevir | On your point about the campaign, I would be extremely surprised if even a few of the campaign maps *don't* make use of at least a few triggers |
| 07:34.18 | onetwo | i would think the editor makers |
| 07:34.22 | onetwo | would do everything in their power |
| 07:34.25 | onetwo | to make it function fully |
| 07:34.29 | onetwo | for their campaign makers |
| 07:34.39 | onetwo | rather than make them go through triggers |
| 07:34.45 | onetwo | to do something that should be "Item Shop" |
| 07:34.56 | onetwo | the funny thing to me is starcraft 2 itself |
| 07:34.58 | onetwo | without campaign |
| 07:34.59 | onetwo | would be so simple |
| 07:35.02 | Nevir | Triggers are part of the editor, and they're very very streamlined over direct programming, or even the previous editors |
| 07:35.04 | onetwo | wed have no heroes |
| 07:35.05 | onetwo | no items |
| 07:35.08 | onetwo | no levels |
| 07:35.09 | ekcolnovkol | right now |
| 07:35.11 | ekcolnovkol | we don't ;/ |
| 07:35.15 | ekcolnovkol | wtb tauren marine |
| 07:35.17 | ekcolnovkol | FFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 07:35.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:35.37 | ekcolnovkol | i need him so bad D; |
| 07:35.40 | Nevir | Speaking of items, are there any good example maps that use the built in system? Haven't seen it yet |
| 07:35.46 | onetwo | no |
| 07:35.50 | onetwo | items are weakest area in community |
| 07:35.51 | onetwo | of knowledge |
| 07:35.55 | ekcolnovkol | hell, i want him just so people can go "omFG make a tauren marine hero already" |
| 07:35.55 | Nevir | nods |
| 07:35.58 | onetwo | i dont feel solid on it |
| 07:36.05 | onetwo | i CANT wait for the models |
| 07:36.08 | onetwo | from campaign |
| 07:36.09 | ekcolnovkol | items? |
| 07:36.14 | ekcolnovkol | they weren't so hard for me o.o |
| 07:36.25 | onetwo | im running out of NPC and creep models |
| 07:36.35 | ekcolnovkol | i find more work setting up variations per ability level |
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| 07:36.42 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:36.45 | ekcolnovkol | like setting up levels for a passive is bumming me out right now |
| 07:36.51 | onetwo | you use the <d ref> on buttons? |
| 07:36.56 | ekcolnovkol | d ref? |
| 07:36.58 | ekcolnovkol | what's that |
| 07:37.04 | onetwo | to reference an ability damage amount or w/e |
| 07:37.09 | onetwo | instead of typing "deals 5 damage" |
| 07:37.11 | ekcolnovkol | oh |
| 07:37.12 | onetwo | for the ability button |
| 07:37.12 | ekcolnovkol | i could |
| 07:37.20 | onetwo | i want to know if we can do it for real numbers |
| 07:37.21 | ekcolnovkol | but since i'm displaying the stats per level anyway |
| 07:37.23 | ekcolnovkol | i don't really need to |
| 07:37.25 | onetwo | d ref converts to int |
| 07:37.41 | onetwo | all my heroes' aura abilities are toggled on and off |
| 07:37.42 | onetwo | like WoW |
| 07:37.48 | onetwo | but also because we cant just add passive abilities |
| 07:37.49 | onetwo | to Learn |
| 07:37.53 | ekcolnovkol | would be nice if i could highlight rows of tooltip text per level |
| 07:37.56 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 07:38.01 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:38.12 | ekcolnovkol | but it says [Level 2] anyway so it's fine |
| 07:38.24 | ekcolnovkol | it's nice to know blizzard thought of me :> |
| 07:38.33 | ekcolnovkol | ~seen ekcolnovkol |
| 07:38.35 | purl | ekcolnovkol is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 77 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen ekcolnovkol'. |
| 07:38.35 | onetwo | yeah |
| 07:38.42 | ekcolnovkol | oh wow i'm recognized nao D: |
| 07:38.52 | ekcolnovkol | it used to be stuck at 4I'M ON A BOAT. |
| 07:39.46 | Maul | ~seen ekcolnovkol |
| 07:39.47 | purl | ekcolnovkol is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 79 messages. Is idling for 55s, last said: 'it used to be stuck at 4I'M ON A BOAT.'. |
| 07:39.55 | onetwo | ~seen onetwo |
| 07:39.55 | purl | onetwo is currently on #sc2mapster (5h 27m 40s). Has said a total of 368 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen onetwo'. |
| 07:39.55 | Maul | :D |
| 07:40.16 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:41.08 | Sixen | It's because you didn't identify |
| 07:42.15 | onetwo | who didnt |
| 07:42.18 | ekcolnovkol | <-- |
| 07:42.20 | Sixen | evkoevneovneveol |
| 07:42.22 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:42.29 | onetwo | the guy whose name remains unpronounced |
| 07:42.35 | Sixen | Very much so :p |
| 07:42.39 | ekcolnovkol | he's going to missell my name on the front page D: |
| 07:42.43 | ekcolnovkol | *mispell |
| 07:42.44 | ekcolnovkol | fff |
| 07:42.51 | onetwo | Mr. alcohol |
| 07:42.56 | onetwo | mr. ecologist |
| 07:43.09 | ekcolnovkol | Mr.Gency |
| 07:43.28 | ekcolnovkol | you'll only get that if you play disgaea ;/ |
| 07:44.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster heysparky (~heysparky@216.40.136.42) |
| 07:44.34 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:44.36 | onetwo | heysparky |
| 07:44.38 | onetwo | i thought you left |
| 07:44.42 | onetwo | and now youre back |
| 07:44.43 | heysparky | not on purpose! |
| 07:45.21 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ILDFp5DGA#t=1m01s |
| 07:45.30 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 07:45.39 | onetwo | ive been looking at some of his songs |
| 07:45.41 | onetwo | just now |
| 07:45.42 | onetwo | before my time |
| 07:45.47 | onetwo | but so good/catchy |
| 07:45.53 | onetwo | songs nowadays are good for like a week |
| 07:45.56 | onetwo | then i get so tired of them |
| 07:46.05 | onetwo | but maybe it would be the same if i listened to this rabidly |
| 07:46.13 | onetwo | rabidly? |
| 07:46.16 | onetwo | what kind of word choice is that |
| 07:46.21 | Twiner | anyone do anything awesome in SC2 lately? |
| 07:46.31 | heysparky | define awesome |
| 07:46.32 | ekcolnovkol | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3718-starcraft-ii-dot-a-storm-of-the-imperial-sanctum/#p4 |
| 07:46.35 | ekcolnovkol | :D |
| 07:47.03 | onetwo | ^ that is awesome |
| 07:47.06 | onetwo | ekcolnovkol |
| 07:47.12 | onetwo | just dont ruin the custom lobby list |
| 07:47.15 | ekcolnovkol | my smiley face? |
| 07:47.16 | onetwo | like war3 happened |
| 07:47.16 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:47.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:47.24 | ekcolnovkol | i'm only going to take up one slot |
| 07:47.30 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:47.31 | ekcolnovkol | unless i make like 8 versions lul |
| 07:47.31 | onetwo | LIES |
| 07:48.07 | Twiner | ekcolnovkol: that makes me sick |
| 07:48.20 | ekcolnovkol | in a good way? :< |
| 07:48.21 | Twiner | the last thing I wanted to see was a SC2 Dota |
| 07:48.35 | ekcolnovkol | well now you see it |
| 07:48.39 | ekcolnovkol | it cannot be unseen |
| 07:49.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Twiner (~Twiner@c-98-229-151-102.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 07:49.09 | onetwo | im hoping to unleash a beast |
| 07:49.10 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:49.11 | onetwo | of an rpg |
| 07:49.12 | onetwo | from nowhere |
| 07:49.13 | onetwo | pull an underdog |
| 07:49.17 | Twiner | ekcolnovkol: that makes me sick |
| 07:49.19 | Twiner | the last thing I wanted to see was a SC2 Dota |
| 07:49.29 | ekcolnovkol | o.O |
| 07:49.30 | onetwo | [00:48] <Twiner> ekcolnovkol: that makes me sick [00:48] <ekcolnovkol> in a good way? :< [00:48] <Twiner> the last thing I wanted to see was a SC2 Dota |
| 07:49.41 | Twiner | oh, I got disco'd wasn't sure if it made it |
| 07:50.01 | Twiner | thats okay though, re-stating it only further shows my distaste for Dota |
| 07:50.11 | onetwo | so time consuming doing RPG |
| 07:50.14 | ekcolnovkol | there's alot of mixed feelings in that field |
| 07:50.15 | onetwo | ive been working on it for weeks |
| 07:50.20 | onetwo | i have 1/5 terrain done |
| 07:50.27 | onetwo | 8 quests that work up to about level 5 |
| 07:50.32 | onetwo | so 5/30 levels covered |
| 07:50.40 | onetwo | 1 hero / 5 heroes done |
| 07:50.41 | Twiner | I don't liek dota for a LOT of reasons |
| 07:50.49 | ekcolnovkol | tell me a few |
| 07:50.53 | ekcolnovkol | i need to know o.o |
| 07:50.55 | onetwo | 4 items out of like 500 |
| 07:51.02 | Twiner | but the biggest reason is, mediocre game becoming vastly too popular, and ruining Warcraft 3 games lobby |
| 07:51.17 | Twiner | which is essentially the saem reason i hate Halo |
| 07:51.31 | ekcolnovkol | ... because it's popular? o.O |
| 07:51.46 | Twiner | because Halo gets 9.5s on game review websites, when it doesn't deserve those types of scores |
| 07:51.54 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:52.00 | ekcolnovkol | why not? P: |
| 07:52.08 | ekcolnovkol | i never played halo |
| 07:52.10 | Twiner | Its a decent, average FPS |
| 07:52.13 | onetwo | i played custom games before dota, i like variation so it was good, then original dota came out, was crap so turned me off of it... would rather do TD or some crazy save/load RPG... Darkness Falls etc... then by the time DOTA went nuts I was just ending my war3 career |
| 07:52.16 | ekcolnovkol | but from what i understand it was very popular |
| 07:52.17 | Twiner | it brings nothing new to the genre |
| 07:52.27 | Twiner | it doesn't do anything particularly well |
| 07:52.33 | Twiner | its just an average, solid game |
| 07:52.38 | onetwo | but with the competitive dota, its just like you have to play perfectly or you lose... you leave battle to go look at some item recipes... you come back and the other guy is 5 levels above you |
| 07:52.39 | onetwo | gg |
| 07:52.44 | ekcolnovkol | so you're the type that liked portal? :o |
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| 07:53.07 | Twiner | but its "ABSOLYUTELY AMAZING!!! IT NEEDS TO GET 9.5s!!!! AND 10s ON SOME SITRES! BECAUSESTR ITS AWESSOOOOMEEE!" |
| 07:53.21 | onetwo | you talking about original halo for xbox 1? |
| 07:53.29 | onetwo | that game set standards didnt it |
| 07:53.30 | Twiner | worse yet was the fact that the public believed it because it was the premier title on the xbox, which brought video games to the masses |
| 07:53.33 | onetwo | i remember playing coop with friends |
| 07:53.34 | onetwo | was fun |
| 07:53.37 | Twiner | yeah |
| 07:53.43 | Twiner | I remember playing Coop with friends in quake 1 |
| 07:53.44 | Twiner | it was fun |
| 07:53.47 | Twiner | that was in 1994 |
| 07:53.56 | Sixen | Quake ftw. |
| 07:53.57 | onetwo | oh theres nothing like computer games compared to console games |
| 07:53.57 | Twiner | I remember playing coop with friends in doom |
| 07:53.59 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:54.04 | onetwo | but the story of halo was well constructed |
| 07:54.06 | onetwo | while you play |
| 07:54.07 | onetwo | its fun |
| 07:54.12 | onetwo | like HL2 |
| 07:54.13 | ekcolnovkol | pro-level quake is insane |
| 07:54.18 | Twiner | its a fun cooperative game |
| 07:54.18 | onetwo | beyond the first one i could care less |
| 07:54.19 | ekcolnovkol | those people are machines |
| 07:54.20 | Twiner | it set no standards though |
| 07:54.28 | onetwo | i hadnt played any console games like it |
| 07:54.29 | Twiner | it brought nothing new to the genre |
| 07:54.32 | onetwo | except for goldeneye |
| 07:54.35 | onetwo | and perfect dark |
| 07:54.49 | onetwo | but my console career ended after purchasing a game cube |
| 07:54.50 | ekcolnovkol | lol onetwo |
| 07:54.56 | ekcolnovkol | i was just comparing two abilities |
| 07:54.57 | ekcolnovkol | and |
| 07:54.57 | Twiner | its the perfect example of an average game getting WAY TO MUCH credit |
| 07:55.04 | Twiner | and it pissses me off |
| 07:55.23 | ekcolnovkol | trigger version takes 5 lines, compared to the data table which ate up like 34 entries |
| 07:55.25 | Twiner | (it also pisses me off because it was supposed to be a PC title originally) |
| 07:55.34 | ekcolnovkol | well |
| 07:55.38 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:55.49 | Twiner | stupid xcrate |
| 07:55.54 | onetwo | Rareware leaving nintendo was the end of a certain era |
| 07:56.03 | onetwo | donkey kong, banjo and kazooie |
| 07:56.05 | onetwo | goldeneye |
| 07:56.08 | onetwo | thats epic |
| 07:56.09 | onetwo | imo |
| 07:56.12 | onetwo | now i dont even know what they do |
| 07:56.26 | Twiner | the point is, that it being a good console FPS doesn't make it a game worthy of a 9.5 |
| 07:56.37 | Twiner | it wasn't a game worthy of a 9.5 |
| 07:56.46 | Twiner | it was an 8.5-9 game |
| 07:56.58 | Twiner | its touted as a great game in the history of games |
| 07:57.10 | onetwo | i like the days when we were worried with everquest vs asherons call vs WoW |
| 07:57.14 | onetwo | before htose games came out |
| 07:57.16 | onetwo | and soon after |
| 07:57.20 | onetwo | realized WoW made a joke |
| 07:57.21 | onetwo | of them |
| 07:57.24 | Twiner | when there are other games that really broke paradigms and brought new and interesting elements to the world of FPS games |
| 07:57.37 | Twiner | meh |
| 07:57.40 | onetwo | meh Twiner |
| 07:57.41 | onetwo | the problem is |
| 07:57.44 | Twiner | i thought Asherons call was much better than WoW |
| 07:57.47 | heysparky | Nev: Separation Radius doesn't do anything (and seems to be for air units)... the search continues |
| 07:57.51 | Twiner | hell, I still think it is |
| 07:57.52 | onetwo | 5.99 billion out of 6 billion |
| 07:57.53 | onetwo | dont care |
| 07:57.56 | onetwo | they just want guitar hero |
| 07:58.02 | onetwo | and "fun times with friends" |
| 07:58.06 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:58.13 | Twiner | Starcraft 2 |
| 07:58.17 | Twiner | heh |
| 07:58.20 | ekcolnovkol | hey sixen |
| 07:58.32 | Twiner | its funny, I've been trying to convince people who arn't interest in SC2 to buy it |
| 07:58.36 | Twiner | and the basis of my argument is |
| 07:58.41 | Twiner | "you like FPS games?" |
| 07:58.42 | onetwo | id like to think in my development career, i hold myself to these ridiculous standards |
| 07:58.44 | onetwo | :D |
| 07:58.46 | Twiner | "you like RGPS?" |
| 07:58.50 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:58.51 | Twiner | "you like grene x?" |
| 07:58.54 | Twiner | buy starcraft 2 |
| 07:59.06 | Twiner | you'll get a free 'never ending' supply |
| 07:59.10 | onetwo | 3/4 of my friends only played custom games |
| 07:59.15 | onetwo | in war3 |
| 07:59.17 | ekcolnovkol | the same argument could be made for wc3 |
| 07:59.20 | ekcolnovkol | but |
| 07:59.22 | Twiner | i hate Warcraft 3 melee |
| 07:59.24 | ekcolnovkol | there were less devs then |
| 07:59.26 | Twiner | I only own it for UMS |
| 07:59.37 | onetwo | i think after sc2 and onwards |
| 07:59.40 | onetwo | gaming will start to be mainstream |
| 07:59.43 | Sixen | Wut |
| 07:59.44 | onetwo | console is almost already |
| 07:59.45 | Sixen | wutz |
| 07:59.46 | onetwo | but not esports |
| 07:59.56 | Sixen | eSports is ftw. |
| 07:59.57 | ekcolnovkol | are you actually putting me on the front page o.o |
| 07:59.57 | onetwo | PC is basically just blizzard |
| 08:00.03 | Sixen | Of course, it's worth it. |
| 08:00.04 | onetwo | and maybe valve |
| 08:00.04 | Sixen | :P |
| 08:00.07 | ekcolnovkol | <3 ! |
| 08:00.10 | Sixen | Agreed, onetwo. |
| 08:00.11 | Sixen | <3 |
| 08:00.13 | Twiner | PC is Blizz, and VAlve, and a few others |
| 08:00.15 | Sixen | Counter Strike is huge. |
| 08:00.17 | onetwo | yeah |
| 08:00.18 | Twiner | ID |
| 08:00.19 | onetwo | but not on TV |
| 08:00.20 | Twiner | grr |
| 08:00.22 | Twiner | counter strike |
| 08:00.23 | onetwo | when its on TV |
| 08:00.24 | onetwo | games win |
| 08:00.26 | Twiner | grumbles |
| 08:00.28 | ekcolnovkol | don't forget EA games <_< |
| 08:00.29 | onetwo | thats when you know |
| 08:00.32 | onetwo | i did |
| 08:00.37 | ekcolnovkol | EA games is EVERYTHING whether you like it or not |
| 08:00.48 | Twiner | new NFS:HP game in development |
| 08:00.56 | Twiner | kinda exciting, if they don't ruin it like the last 3 titles |
| 08:01.18 | Twiner | NFS:Shift... what a horrible experience that game |
| 08:01.24 | ekcolnovkol | did anyone here think God of War 3 was mediocre? |
| 08:01.27 | Twiner | It would be a really excellent game, if I could play it |
| 08:01.28 | ekcolnovkol | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.40 | onetwo | i dont play consoles anymore :( |
| 08:01.41 | heysparky | I heard GOW3 was incredible |
| 08:01.49 | ekcolnovkol | the cinematics are unparalleled, that's for certain |
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| 08:01.59 | ekcolnovkol | but some people thought it was overhyped :s |
| 08:02.03 | heysparky | folks who don't evaluate on cinematics |
| 08:02.08 | ekcolnovkol | i thought it was properly hyped |
| 08:02.14 | onetwo | i have good respect for a console game that is good and not just a train |
| 08:02.17 | Twiner | but instead of playing it, I spend the vast majority of my time, waiting for it to load, resetting my controls every time the game started, waiting for it to load, having to restart a race, and waiting for it to load |
| 08:02.18 | onetwo | so gj god of war |
| 08:02.25 | ekcolnovkol | heh |
| 08:02.25 | Twiner | oh crap |
| 08:02.27 | Twiner | it crashed |
| 08:02.30 | Twiner | while loading |
| 08:02.43 | Twiner | restart the game, resetup my controls, again, wait for it to load.... |
| 08:03.03 | Twiner | NFS:shift... what a miserable experience |
| 08:03.04 | heysparky | that's pretty terrible Twiner |
| 08:03.06 | Twiner | the gameplay was really fun though |
| 08:03.22 | Twiner | the bugginess of the game was enough for me to throw it out |
| 08:03.26 | ekcolnovkol | i... don't know what NFS is |
| 08:03.28 | Twiner | 60$ down the tubes |
| 08:03.33 | Twiner | Need for Speed |
| 08:03.34 | ekcolnovkol | oh |
| 08:03.37 | Twiner | racing game series |
| 08:03.38 | ekcolnovkol | the movie? |
| 08:03.42 | ekcolnovkol | eh.. |
| 08:04.16 | ekcolnovkol | racing games are usually the smoothest running games |
| 08:04.46 | Twiner | Need for Speed, Need for Speed 2, Need For Speed Carrara 911, Need For Speed 3: Hot Pursuit, Need for Speed 3: Hot Pursuit 2, Need For Speed: Underground, Need For Speed: Underground 2, Need for Speed: Most wanted, Need for Speed: Carbon, Need for Speed: ProStreet, Need for Speed: Shift |
| 08:04.48 | Twiner | I'm missing a few |
| 08:04.53 | ekcolnovkol | holy jeez |
| 08:04.56 | Twiner | ekcolnovkol: oh I agree |
| 08:05.12 | Twiner | NFS:Shift was just... appalling |
| 08:05.21 | ekcolnovkol | simply because they can focus on the model that takes up at least 25-50% of your screen |
| 08:05.31 | Twiner | on teh xbox version, there was a bug that caused the game to attempt to connect to the playstation network... |
| 08:05.36 | Twiner | and it would crash the xbox |
| 08:05.37 | ekcolnovkol | lol wat |
| 08:05.39 | ekcolnovkol | aw |
| 08:05.45 | ekcolnovkol | they tried to cross platform? |
| 08:05.56 | Twiner | like... |
| 08:05.57 | ekcolnovkol | cross platform would be... |
| 08:05.59 | ekcolnovkol | historic |
| 08:06.08 | Twiner | I don't get it, I can't even begin to understand how that game made it past even the most basic levels of QA |
| 08:06.13 | Twiner | its absolutely pathetic |
| 08:06.37 | Twiner | I will be watching the new NFS:HP game, but I will pirate it before i buy it to see if it will actually work |
| 08:06.46 | Twiner | because I'm not throwing away another 60$ |
| 08:06.47 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 08:06.52 | ekcolnovkol | that's what pirating is for |
| 08:06.56 | ekcolnovkol | "testing out" new games |
| 08:07.02 | ekcolnovkol | before you "buy" them |
| 08:07.03 | ekcolnovkol | o.o |
| 08:07.07 | Twiner | I used to be a terrible pirate |
| 08:07.17 | Twiner | I've learned the err of my ways |
| 08:07.24 | Twiner | I will make an exception for NFS:HP |
| 08:08.12 | Clord | I favor cheaper games nowadays |
| 08:08.22 | Clord | then I "test" costier ones |
| 08:08.23 | Twiner | I just don't buy many games anymore |
| 08:08.25 | Twiner | and play a lot of demos |
| 08:08.35 | Twiner | I bought SC2 |
| 08:08.45 | onetwo | i used to rent and demo games a lot more back in the day |
| 08:08.50 | Twiner | the last game i bought before that... was BFBC2, and only because I LOVE the Battlefield series |
| 08:08.51 | onetwo | because you'd find gems like No One Lives Forever |
| 08:08.56 | onetwo | but now I just go with blizz and valve |
| 08:08.58 | onetwo | :( |
| 08:09.10 | Clord | it is also great way to destroy rotten companies |
| 08:09.17 | Twiner | DICE is another big PC developer |
| 08:09.25 | Twiner | not as big as Valve or Blizz I'm sure |
| 08:09.36 | ekcolnovkol | you guys are forgetting about PopCap Games |
| 08:09.41 | Clord | if company makes tons of bad games... try to price it normally and they know it is crap before pushing it even out |
| 08:09.43 | Twiner | Clord: its also a way to destroy good campies |
| 08:09.54 | Clord | effect is clear ;) |
| 08:10.08 | Twiner | piracy doesn't really ruin companies either |
| 08:10.10 | ekcolnovkol | PopCap games make the highest income per development time |
| 08:10.12 | Twiner | it ruins good IPs |
| 08:10.13 | onetwo | gameLoft ports every game practically to the iphone |
| 08:10.14 | onetwo | , to the iphone* |
| 08:10.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 08:10.18 | onetwo | but so many suck |
| 08:10.19 | onetwo | the controls |
| 08:10.20 | ekcolnovkol | it's ridiculous |
| 08:10.21 | onetwo | are bad |
| 08:10.22 | ekcolnovkol | popcap? |
| 08:10.24 | Twiner | ekcolnovkol: thats because the development time is liek 2 months |
| 08:10.27 | ekcolnovkol | yeah |
| 08:10.28 | ekcolnovkol | but |
| 08:10.29 | ekcolnovkol | jesus |
| 08:10.30 | onetwo | theyre smart |
| 08:10.33 | ekcolnovkol | Bejeweled made |
| 08:10.34 | ekcolnovkol | so |
| 08:10.38 | onetwo | totally |
| 08:10.38 | ekcolnovkol | much money |
| 08:10.39 | Triceron | I don't play as many games as I used to |
| 08:10.40 | Twiner | push out tons of shit games and game sequals |
| 08:10.47 | Clord | popcap makes money with bringing new gameplay ideas |
| 08:10.51 | Clord | that's why their games sell |
| 08:10.54 | ekcolnovkol | in a sense |
| 08:10.56 | Clord | plants vs zombies is genius |
| 08:10.57 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:10.58 | ekcolnovkol | they know how to kill time |
| 08:11.00 | Twiner | I wouldn't really agree with that |
| 08:11.07 | ekcolnovkol | but when you think about it... |
| 08:11.09 | ekcolnovkol | hold crap |
| 08:11.10 | Twiner | there are a few exceptions to the generally shitty releases |
| 08:11.16 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/evolved-working-name/. Evolved (Working Title). Sephiex (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 08:11.18 | Twiner | Crimsonland is a lot of fun |
| 08:11.19 | ekcolnovkol | PopCap Games is like |
| 08:11.21 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lunar-isle/. Lunar Isle. cbkenned2009 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 08:11.22 | ekcolnovkol | one developer |
| 08:11.25 | Twiner | no |
| 08:11.31 | ekcolnovkol | it's not |
| 08:11.32 | Twiner | PopCap games is a publisher |
| 08:11.33 | ekcolnovkol | but it could be |
| 08:11.36 | ekcolnovkol | oh? |
| 08:11.49 | Twiner | anyone can release a popcap game |
| 08:11.52 | ekcolnovkol | they don't hire their own developers? |
| 08:11.54 | Twiner | I checked it out a while back |
| 08:11.55 | ekcolnovkol | didn't realize that |
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| 08:12.05 | Twiner | they may have a development team or two |
| 08:12.08 | gwho | i give up, |
| 08:12.16 | gwho | someone help me fix my basic dialogue to show up |
| 08:12.21 | Twiner | but mostly its developers who publish titles through pop cap |
| 08:12.26 | Twiner | much like developers publish titles through steam |
| 08:12.31 | ekcolnovkol | gwho |
| 08:12.35 | ekcolnovkol | download Hex'd |
| 08:12.37 | gwho | please |
| 08:12.38 | Twiner | its just that popcap is a known casual games group |
| 08:12.39 | ekcolnovkol | it'll teach you about dialogs |
| 08:12.46 | Clord | popcap has developers... mushrooms must taste great |
| 08:12.51 | Clord | they made plants vs zombies etc |
| 08:13.06 | Clord | their games what actually sell are made by themseleves |
| 08:13.16 | ekcolnovkol | you know what i haven't played in a while |
| 08:13.19 | ekcolnovkol | TF2... |
| 08:13.27 | ekcolnovkol | <.< |
| 08:13.40 | gwho | i dont want it to be so complicated |
| 08:13.41 | ekcolnovkol | spies are op :( |
| 08:13.41 | Clord | me neither |
| 08:13.44 | Clord | I kinda burned it |
| 08:13.46 | gwho | i just need the most basic dialogue to simply work |
| 08:13.54 | heysparky | Dwarf Fortress... awesomeness... and you don't have to pirate it |
| 08:14.01 | onetwo | tf2 i played for years |
| 08:14.03 | onetwo | it was my pre sc2 game |
| 08:14.04 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 08:14.04 | Clord | pirate fortress |
| 08:14.09 | Clord | ahoy! |
| 08:14.09 | onetwo | l4d didnt measure up for me |
| 08:14.14 | onetwo | it suffered from console relations |
| 08:14.15 | onetwo | imo |
| 08:14.18 | onetwo | tf2 is just SO good |
| 08:14.18 | ekcolnovkol | i mained the spy |
| 08:14.24 | ekcolnovkol | and the pyro |
| 08:14.27 | ekcolnovkol | because i hate myself |
| 08:14.28 | ekcolnovkol | :( |
| 08:14.29 | Twiner | I got a LOT of hours out of L4D |
| 08:14.33 | Clord | actually L4D and L4D2 was made easier in console version |
| 08:14.35 | Triceron | I liked L4D |
| 08:14.36 | Clord | and harder in PC version |
| 08:14.36 | Twiner | and then I bought L4D2 |
| 08:14.38 | ekcolnovkol | i actually never played L4D |
| 08:14.40 | onetwo | i did too, but stopped about 2-3 months in |
| 08:14.42 | onetwo | played tf2 for years |
| 08:14.44 | Triceron | I liked it on console too |
| 08:14.45 | Twiner | and I played it for... maybe 10-20 hours |
| 08:14.48 | ekcolnovkol | what server onetwo |
| 08:14.49 | Twiner | and I dropped it |
| 08:14.49 | gwho | FPS games striaght up should nto be played on console |
| 08:15.00 | onetwo | what do you mean what server? |
| 08:15.02 | onetwo | i played on lots |
| 08:15.03 | Triceron | TF2 is awesome, but I can't take playing too long |
| 08:15.04 | ekcolnovkol | ah |
| 08:15.04 | Twiner | gwho: that statement could be soon outdated |
| 08:15.07 | onetwo | mostly custom map servers |
| 08:15.08 | onetwo | ironcally |
| 08:15.09 | ekcolnovkol | i stuck to 3PG |
| 08:15.10 | Triceron | it gets monotonous for me |
| 08:15.10 | onetwo | ironically |
| 08:15.10 | Clord | in console versions.... spawning of enemy zombies etc is tuned down.. they also spawn less likely to back |
| 08:15.14 | ekcolnovkol | 3PG is GREAT |
| 08:15.17 | onetwo | and i made this map |
| 08:15.17 | ekcolnovkol | it's like |
| 08:15.23 | ekcolnovkol | they make the heroes awesome |
| 08:15.26 | onetwo | http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/51482 |
| 08:15.28 | gwho | unless they can somehow integrate adjusting turning speed on the fly |
| 08:15.31 | onetwo | i had one good map release |
| 08:15.32 | onetwo | in that game |
| 08:15.46 | Clord | germans waste bullets in L4D series |
| 08:15.47 | onetwo | lol and i told everyone i was updating it |
| 08:15.49 | onetwo | then never got motivated |
| 08:15.51 | onetwo | and aqua sits |
| 08:15.53 | ekcolnovkol | heh |
| 08:15.55 | Clord | their zombie animations hardly indicate when zombie is dead |
| 08:16.08 | Clord | so they shoot damn corpses |
| 08:16.09 | heysparky | they're Undead, Clord |
| 08:16.17 | Clord | german version |
| 08:16.22 | Clord | it is different |
| 08:16.39 | gwho | i can't learn anything from hex'd |
| 08:16.48 | ekcolnovkol | look at their triggers, it's neatly organized |
| 08:16.55 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 08:16.56 | gwho | too complicated |
| 08:17.01 | Clord | german version zombies does not show that when they die from bullets.... they just dissappear with delay |
| 08:17.01 | gwho | i need basi basic shit |
| 08:17.02 | ekcolnovkol | eh.. |
| 08:17.03 | Twiner | what is 3pg |
| 08:17.07 | ekcolnovkol | it's very basic u.u |
| 08:17.15 | gwho | i can't even find dialogue |
| 08:17.31 | gwho | http://www.mediafire.com/?nmedymwtd4l |
| 08:17.34 | ekcolnovkol | their first trigger jam-packs everything related to dialog in there |
| 08:18.21 | Twiner | bedtime, again |
| 08:18.23 | Twiner | gnoite |
| 08:18.27 | ekcolnovkol | night |
| 08:18.28 | Clord | germans also has advantage in L4D2 quite much.. thanks to their censored zombie gets hit etc stuff.... they see special infected way easier if try to hide behind zombie mass.... fun! XD |
| 08:18.44 | Clord | there goes hiding spot |
| 08:19.04 | Clord | thanks to their super transparent zombies |
| 08:19.09 | heysparky | gnight Twiner |
| 08:19.46 | onetwo | night |
| 08:19.49 | Clord | oh and L4D series zombies are not undead... they got virus and went crazy |
| 08:19.50 | gwho | hardest thing about programming is familiarizing |
| 08:19.51 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:19.56 | gwho | logic itslef isn't hard |
| 08:20.01 | onetwo | ? |
| 08:20.02 | gwho | it's just u dont know what hsit is at first |
| 08:20.03 | onetwo | familiarizing? |
| 08:20.04 | onetwo | with code |
| 08:20.05 | onetwo | ? |
| 08:20.07 | onetwo | ah |
| 08:20.08 | gwho | no with definitions |
| 08:20.09 | gwho | and functinos |
| 08:20.11 | onetwo | ah |
| 08:20.12 | gwho | and what is what |
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| 08:21.58 | Helral|work | hey all |
| 08:22.02 | ekcolnovkol | go to work |
| 08:22.03 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 08:22.06 | Helral|work | lol |
| 08:22.42 | Clord | and don't reply like idiot... lol |
| 08:22.42 | Clord | XD |
| 08:22.50 | Clord | cheap work force these days... |
| 08:23.10 | Helral|work | I'm expensive ;p |
| 08:23.18 | Clord | then it is time for income cut |
| 08:23.26 | Helral|work | hehehe |
| 08:23.41 | Helral|work | well depends on what I do doesn't it ;p |
| 08:23.49 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 08:23.55 | ekcolnovkol | what do you do? |
| 08:24.04 | ekcolnovkol | so that we can properly mock you o.o |
| 08:24.06 | Helral|work | I'm a Software Engineer ;p |
| 08:24.12 | ekcolnovkol | well yes |
| 08:24.13 | Clord | actually as far companies are run... most not give damn when they desire payments what job is... as long it is over their ideal payments |
| 08:24.15 | ekcolnovkol | you told us that |
| 08:24.19 | ekcolnovkol | what are you working on |
| 08:24.26 | gwho | create dialgue:... dialogue does not create |
| 08:24.27 | Helral|work | an information managing system ;p |
| 08:24.30 | gwho | fml |
| 08:24.33 | ekcolnovkol | like oracle? |
| 08:24.37 | ekcolnovkol | <<" |
| 08:24.42 | Clord | you could use your brain to manage information |
| 08:24.46 | Clord | bad joke ;) |
| 08:25.12 | Helral|work | @gwho: "Create Dialog" then "show/hide Dialog for player group" |
| 08:26.19 | Clord | anyways you are supposed to pretend it is funny... just like people do with most stuff in internet |
| 08:26.22 | Clord | XD |
| 08:26.46 | Helral|work | ow sry, I was managing some information with my brain.... what was the joke? ;p |
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| 08:29.11 | ekcolnovkol` | :o |
| 08:29.18 | onetwo | Sixen |
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| 08:29.54 | onetwo | "<c val="F0C6B9">Mr. Sixen thanks you and gives you 1 gold.</c>" -> Reward for killing Bashiok |
| 08:29.56 | gwho | fuck this |
| 08:29.57 | heysparky | earlier today someone mentioned that there was some sort of filter or flag that you could set to make 'things' happen only when the object they were associated with was cargo inside a transport. Anyone know what that is? |
| 08:29.59 | onetwo | hes part of your questline |
| 08:30.00 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:30.01 | gwho | annoying as fuck |
| 08:30.09 | onetwo | sorry heysparky |
| 08:30.13 | onetwo | youre in a wild world i dont understand |
| 08:30.17 | onetwo | and you also are doing something i dont know |
| 08:30.28 | onetwo | lol gwho |
| 08:30.29 | heysparky | I don't understand the world either :D |
| 08:30.31 | onetwo | whats wrong |
| 08:30.47 | Helral|work | hmmm think there's an enable or set behavior in the transport load/unload ability... |
| 08:31.06 | heysparky | in the transport ability, eh |
| 08:31.08 | heysparky | k |
| 08:34.09 | onetwo | There will definitely be "chat channels" coming in one of the patches after the release. The system will be based around groups, where you will be able to join public channels that are based around your interests, which can be virtually anything. Also the system will include private chat channels (in plans for release in the first few months after the release), where you will be able to meet with your friends. As for identifiers t |
| 08:34.17 | onetwo | The previous system did not work as intended to some degree and based on feedback received the developers decided to implement a variation of this, which is going to attach character codes. These will be three digit numbers added to your nickname and they will be seen in the UI screens. Thanks to this you will be able to add friends manually, just like previously with identifiers. On top of that you can still add friends using all |
| 08:34.20 | onetwo | so chat channels |
| 08:34.22 | onetwo | shortly after release |
| 08:34.28 | onetwo | this info from blizzard 30 mins ago |
| 08:34.34 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25399622869 |
| 08:35.03 | ekcolnovkol` | i think that the public are misconceiving blizzard's intention on the removal of chat channels |
| 08:35.31 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.33 | heysparky | hmmm... the load unload behaviors aren't what I need... dagnabit |
| 08:35.39 | onetwo | 3 digit number |
| 08:35.42 | onetwo | 012 |
| 08:35.43 | onetwo | for me |
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| 08:36.47 | Terex | Hey Mapster! Is there anyone into 3d modelling? |
| 08:37.16 | Helral|work | @sparky :( |
| 08:37.58 | xgalaxy | my 3 digit number will be 666 |
| 08:38.02 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:38.09 | onetwo | majority of buyers don't care about chat channels. |
| 08:38.24 | xgalaxy | to be honest |
| 08:38.26 | xgalaxy | i don't care |
| 08:38.28 | xgalaxy | haha |
| 08:38.29 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/board.html?forumId=12009&sid=3000 |
| 08:38.31 | xgalaxy | however |
| 08:38.31 | onetwo | great responses |
| 08:38.33 | onetwo | on the board right now |
| 08:38.38 | onetwo | from blizz |
| 08:38.42 | onetwo | weird 1am team answering questions |
| 08:38.43 | xgalaxy | i see how ingame chat can be helpful for tourny organizers |
| 08:38.54 | xgalaxy | but the thing is |
| 08:39.09 | xgalaxy | stuff like tourney organization and leage play could be handled by some other in game system than chat channels |
| 08:40.45 | Terex | Does anyone know, if it right to model robots by parts (like making the arm separate from the body), orit will cause modelling and texturing issues? |
| 08:41.41 | xgalaxy | uhm |
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| 08:42.06 | xgalaxy | i dont think there is anything wrong with modelling it seperate but when you go to animate you're going to have to combine it into one model anyway |
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| 08:43.09 | Terex | Thx a lot! |
| 08:43.13 | heysparky | helral, I think I'm going to try to make a validator on all the effects that requires the unit be cargo |
| 08:43.21 | heysparky | if I can figure that out |
| 08:43.56 | onetwo | afk |
| 08:44.32 | Sixen | lol onetwo |
| 08:44.39 | onetwo | sup |
| 08:44.40 | onetwo | oh lol |
| 08:44.42 | onetwo | im afk ingame |
| 08:44.44 | Sixen | Funny thing about that is, I also run DiabloFans.com, so I talk to Bashy all the time |
| 08:44.45 | Sixen | :P |
| 08:44.48 | onetwo | about to try and eat bashiok |
| 08:44.49 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 08:44.54 | onetwo | if my rpg takes off |
| 08:44.56 | onetwo | i hope he plays it |
| 08:44.57 | onetwo | one day |
| 08:45.31 | Sixen | :P |
| 08:45.32 | onetwo | as soon as beta phase 2 begins sixen |
| 08:45.36 | onetwo | private testing time |
| 08:45.40 | onetwo | its going to BLOW your mind |
| 08:45.43 | Helral|work | @sparky: maybe set the validator to requiring a certain behavior. you can then set a behavior when the unit enters a transport like: UnitInTransport. (don't know if there already exists a velidator for UnitInTransport). |
| 08:45.46 | onetwo | aka im setting myself up to fail |
| 08:46.09 | xgalaxy | don't hype your shit:D |
| 08:46.24 | heysparky | I'll look at that helral |
| 08:46.49 | onetwo | xgalaxy |
| 08:46.50 | onetwo | BLOW YOUR MIND |
| 08:46.54 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:47.06 | Triceron | does it have custom models? *wink wink* |
| 08:47.59 | onetwo | na |
| 08:48.08 | onetwo | im using w/e i can to make a pseudo fantasy |
| 08:48.09 | onetwo | rpg |
| 08:48.10 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:48.23 | Triceron | stalkers as giant spiders |
| 08:49.33 | onetwo | good idea |
| 08:49.34 | onetwo | thx |
| 08:50.13 | Triceron | lol |
| 08:52.32 | Triceron | people on forums are going nuts about lack of chat channels |
| 08:53.10 | onetwo | lo |
| 08:53.16 | onetwo | for the last month |
| 08:53.17 | onetwo | imo |
| 08:53.31 | Helral|work | I'd miss them chat channels. |
| 08:53.33 | Sixen | Yeah... |
| 08:53.42 | Sixen | It's nuts. |
| 08:53.48 | Helral|work | sometimes after a game you'd like to talk to some ppl... chat channels are usually used for that. |
| 08:53.57 | xgalaxy | well its not like they had to look for for chat channel / server code rofl |
| 08:54.44 | Helral|work | like in "ow crap this game is almost over, join us in channel 'blaat' and we'll continue our conversation" ...... |
| 08:55.01 | Triceron | well they said private chat is in works |
| 08:55.10 | Triceron | as long as there's SOME kind of chat, I'm fine. |
| 08:55.16 | Triceron | I could care less about pub chats anyways |
| 08:55.22 | onetwo | we need an sc2mapster clan |
| 08:55.24 | onetwo | when clans come out |
| 08:55.36 | Triceron | what I could use are friends groups tho |
| 08:55.36 | onetwo | people are already too spread out |
| 08:55.38 | Helral|work | "private" sounds like 1 on 1 .... what about conversations with multiple people? ;p |
| 08:55.41 | heysparky | haha! awesome |
| 08:55.43 | heysparky | got it |
| 08:55.48 | Helral|work | ^^ |
| 08:55.56 | Helral|work | how did you do it in the end, Sparky? |
| 08:55.59 | heysparky | made a validator on the aura that applies if the unit not visible |
| 08:56.06 | Helral|work | lol |
| 08:56.06 | heysparky | Visible: Excluded |
| 08:56.10 | onetwo | albeit most are probably on sc2mapster |
| 08:56.11 | Triceron | or I'll have this weird mix of people on friends list |
| 08:56.12 | onetwo | theres hive workshop and sclegacy forums for editing |
| 08:56.12 | Helral|work | nice one ;) |
| 08:56.13 | onetwo | and sc2mapster the main one |
| 08:56.16 | onetwo | already a community divide a bit |
| 08:57.10 | onetwo | afk |
| 08:57.12 | Sixen | hm? |
| 08:57.20 | Sixen | What? |
| 08:57.29 | heysparky | on an aura, which effect/behavior should allow stacking? (there are 4, two behaviors and two effects) |
| 08:57.41 | Sixen | SCLegacy doesn't have much of everything and the Hive is far behind, :P |
| 08:59.31 | ekcolnovkol` | the hive? o.O |
| 08:59.46 | ekcolnovkol` | i'm imagining a website that's very hard to look at |
| 08:59.52 | Sixen | lol |
| 09:00.24 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/dust-2-lag-painter-another-dota/ |
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| 09:01.36 | onetwo | oh i know theyre behind |
| 09:01.36 | Triceron | ugh |
| 09:01.36 | Triceron | crashed |
| 09:01.36 | onetwo | but they still have posts |
| 09:01.36 | onetwo | which means people use them |
| 09:01.36 | onetwo | over sc2mapster |
| 09:01.37 | Triceron | what'd I miss |
| 09:01.37 | onetwo | nothing |
| 09:01.37 | onetwo | atually |
| 09:01.37 | onetwo | actually |
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| 09:02.42 | Inferno | Hey, can someone help me out? I have a problem with Road placement in the Galaxy Editor. It seems to dissapear when my camera crosses a point in de map. |
| 09:02.54 | Inferno | the* |
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| 09:03.10 | ekcolnovkol` | lmao de-dust? |
| 09:03.20 | Inferno | typo :) |
| 09:03.28 | Inferno | so anyone know what the problem is? |
| 09:03.38 | Inferno | the road just dissapears |
| 09:04.05 | heysparky | what point in the map? |
| 09:04.07 | SixTwo | hahaha dust2 in sc2 :D this is awesome |
| 09:04.11 | Triceron | did you try testing it in sc? |
| 09:04.19 | Inferno | yes, the same thing happens in sc2 |
| 09:04.25 | Inferno | the road starts in the middle of the map |
| 09:04.28 | Inferno | and moves all the way up |
| 09:04.38 | Inferno | allmost half-way the road just completely dissapears |
| 09:04.51 | heysparky | can you see it in the editor? |
| 09:04.57 | Inferno | tried to make a seperate road all the way in the top, the road doesn't even show |
| 09:05.01 | Inferno | nope |
| 09:05.15 | Inferno | so i cross a camera point in the map and the entire road dissapears |
| 09:05.30 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz * r34 YABOT (10 files in 3 directories): |
| 09:05.30 | Inferno | but my other roads that are in other points in the map dont dissapears |
| 09:05.31 | Repo | Started porting over the MapScript functions. About 50% finished. |
| 09:05.33 | Inferno | -s* |
| 09:06.18 | heysparky | huh, I can't get roads to place at all... |
| 09:06.54 | Inferno | you cant in the top? or not nowhere? |
| 09:07.17 | Helral|work | @Inferno: is it a visibility problem? like you've placed the unit center out of sight so the entire unit disappears when it is hidden by the fog.... ? |
| 09:07.38 | Inferno | well i actualy enabled a revealer for the entire map, just for testing |
| 09:07.50 | Inferno | whenever my camera point crosses a certain point, in the editor or ingame |
| 09:07.54 | Inferno | the road completely dissapears |
| 09:07.59 | Inferno | but doodads and other units dont |
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| 09:08.18 | heysparky | it also happens in the editor, apparently |
| 09:08.19 | Helral|work | hmmm could still be that it ain't drawn because the game thinks its behind the camera.... |
| 09:08.35 | ekcolnovkol` | hey sixen |
| 09:08.44 | Helral|work | not sure though .... |
| 09:08.52 | vjeux | omg ekcolnovkol` you just got newsed :P |
| 09:08.54 | Sixen | hai |
| 09:08.57 | ekcolnovkol` | yeah i noticed |
| 09:08.57 | ekcolnovkol` | lol |
| 09:09.01 | Sixen | evekovevnelvnelveklol |
| 09:09.11 | ekcolnovkol` | but 'another dota' sounds like 'another rickroll' :s |
| 09:09.13 | Inferno | whats weird is that the road is the only thing that dissapears |
| 09:09.44 | ekcolnovkol` | that is, until the see the vid |
| 09:10.04 | Helral|work | @Inferno: hmmm.... well I can't help you any more than this..... I've never had the problem :( :( |
| 09:10.04 | Inferno | and it only happens in the top of the map |
| 09:10.11 | Inferno | ok :( |
| 09:10.14 | Inferno | damn |
| 09:10.21 | heysparky | sorry, man, mysterious |
| 09:10.37 | Triceron | nice dota map ecwboenenebelwlol |
| 09:10.37 | Inferno | maybe its a doodad or something that makes the road dissapear when the camera gets there? |
| 09:10.43 | ekcolnovkol` | oh sweet you spelled it correctly xD |
| 09:10.49 | ekcolnovkol` | most people mix up the k and the c |
| 09:12.18 | heysparky | haha, sweet |
| 09:12.39 | heysparky | My Hive Mothers can now pick up as cargo radioactive canisters that convey stacking bonuses |
| 09:12.59 | Triceron | how many heros you got so far? |
| 09:13.05 | ekcolnovkol` | 4 |
| 09:13.10 | Triceron | ahh |
| 09:13.22 | Triceron | how big is the map (filesize) |
| 09:13.27 | ekcolnovkol` | not big |
| 09:13.28 | ekcolnovkol` | like |
| 09:13.30 | ekcolnovkol` | small actually |
| 09:13.32 | ekcolnovkol` | o.O |
| 09:13.40 | Triceron | in kb? |
| 09:13.51 | onetwo | insert additional ekcolnovkol mangled name joke |
| 09:13.51 | ekcolnovkol` | less than a mb |
| 09:13.55 | ekcolnovkol` | like 880 kb |
| 09:14.00 | ekcolnovkol` | q.q |
| 09:14.02 | Triceron | ahh, cool |
| 09:15.31 | ekcolnovkol` | there's a post on the forums on hero ideas |
| 09:16.06 | ekcolnovkol` | since we need alot of heroes, we'll be using alot of stuff people mention in related posts |
| 09:16.51 | Sixen | Going to take classic dota heroes though, yeah? |
| 09:16.56 | Sixen | SA is a must :P |
| 09:16.59 | Triceron | man this sucks |
| 09:17.17 | Triceron | added 2 custom units, they take up about 1mb each :( |
| 09:17.19 | ekcolnovkol` | uh |
| 09:17.29 | ekcolnovkol` | only if their mechanics work well enough to translate into the new system |
| 09:18.01 | Triceron | you working in a team for DotA? |
| 09:18.05 | ekcolnovkol` | yeah |
| 09:18.22 | ekcolnovkol` | if you want to contribute a hero, i'll take a look at it |
| 09:18.49 | Triceron | I got a couple but they're glitchy |
| 09:18.57 | Triceron | anims don't work 100% |
| 09:19.11 | Triceron | and I hate that death anims are separate model files. It's gonna add to the filesize, urgh. |
| 09:19.24 | ekcolnovkol` | yeah i worked alot on trimming down actors :p |
| 09:19.43 | ekcolnovkol` | once i learned that you didn't need seperate actor files i was like "oh god this is going to be alot of work" |
| 09:19.56 | ekcolnovkol` | filesize went from 2mb to 880 |
| 09:19.59 | ekcolnovkol` | :P |
| 09:20.12 | Triceron | haha nice |
| 09:20.22 | Jum-Jum | whats the point of making dota in sc2? |
| 09:20.29 | Sixen | to play dota in sc2? |
| 09:20.34 | ekcolnovkol` | nods |
| 09:20.43 | Jum-Jum | why not just play hon? |
| 09:20.44 | Helral|work | to have a mapmaking challenge? |
| 09:20.45 | Triceron | I got my second unit done yesterday, but the anims aren't working yet |
| 09:20.49 | Sixen | Because HoN is nub. |
| 09:20.49 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Justicar_ingame2.jpg |
| 09:21.03 | ekcolnovkol` | HoN doesn't have a physics engine |
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| 09:21.08 | Sixen | and HoN isn't SC2 |
| 09:21.15 | Triceron | what's the point? Because it's not sc2 |
| 09:21.23 | ekcolnovkol` | yeah the theme is going to be pretty new |
| 09:21.27 | Jum-Jum | SC2 doesn't have a reconnect feature |
| 09:21.29 | Sixen | Why would anyone port a game into SC2? |
| 09:21.29 | Triceron | SC2 can potentially be better |
| 09:21.38 | ekcolnovkol` | HoN and DotA dealt with Tolkien-type lore |
| 09:21.38 | Sixen | Why make Mario for Sc2 when you can play it for SNES? |
| 09:21.59 | Sixen | ekcecneopncwconcwnpcokol, it's not DotA, it's SiS? |
| 09:22.05 | ekcolnovkol` | SotIS ? |
| 09:22.23 | ekcolnovkol` | sounds similar, but still different |
| 09:22.38 | Sixen | Right. That. |
| 09:23.17 | Sixen | That's pretty cool |
| 09:23.17 | ekcolnovkol` | i spent a bit of time trying to figure out the acronym :s |
| 09:23.41 | onetwo | fuck i died |
| 09:23.42 | Sixen | :p |
| 09:23.43 | onetwo | in my rpg |
| 09:23.45 | Sixen | lol |
| 09:23.45 | ekcolnovkol` | yeah, it looked alot better than i thought in text |
| 09:23.46 | onetwo | i was about to go fight bashiok |
| 09:23.53 | Triceron | that's quite a mouthful |
| 09:23.54 | onetwo | no hero retrieval :( |
| 09:24.05 | ekcolnovkol` | lol |
| 09:24.13 | ekcolnovkol` | didn't i tell you how to preserve heroes |
| 09:24.19 | ekcolnovkol` | o.O |
| 09:25.51 | ekcolnovkol` | or is that not your problem |
| 09:27.35 | Inferno | I duplicated a Thor unit to make a custom unit, but the firing animation doesn't start, anyone know why? I checked the actors and such, but couldn't really find anything. |
| 09:27.48 | ekcolnovkol` | it's your weapon's actor |
| 09:28.16 | ekcolnovkol` | or your actor's weapon |
| 09:28.18 | ekcolnovkol` | :/ |
| 09:28.25 | Sixen | oicwutudidthar |
| 09:28.39 | ekcolnovkol` | but it is u.u |
| 09:28.41 | Inferno | hm ok thx, ill check on it again |
| 09:29.29 | onetwo | oh |
| 09:29.33 | onetwo | i havent put it in yet ekcolnovkol |
| 09:29.37 | onetwo | i should though |
| 09:29.40 | ekcolnovkol` | lol |
| 09:34.36 | Inferno | hmm im checking on my new thor, but there doesn't seem to be much different or wrong, where should i be looking at? the events seem to be ok |
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| 09:38.54 | Inferno | nvm, think i got it :D |
| 09:39.39 | onetwo | LOL |
| 09:39.40 | onetwo | i love this |
| 09:39.47 | onetwo | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131409 |
| 09:39.51 | onetwo | its by purepwnage guys |
| 09:39.57 | onetwo | guys who made fps doug |
| 09:39.59 | onetwo | video |
| 09:40.30 | Sixen | Someone give this a bump? http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25399850364 |
| 09:40.53 | Sixen | lol onetwo |
| 09:41.26 | onetwo | they have a tv show too |
| 09:41.26 | onetwo | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1528852/ |
| 09:41.30 | onetwo | i made the only imdb review |
| 09:41.35 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:41.47 | onetwo | sorry Sixen i can't bump it |
| 09:41.52 | onetwo | i cant figure out any of my accts |
| 09:41.54 | onetwo | for my old games |
| 09:41.54 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:42.04 | Sixen | pfft |
| 09:42.08 | Sixen | you don't have a bnet1 account? :P |
| 09:42.15 | onetwo | not that i can remmeber |
| 09:42.17 | onetwo | must be gone |
| 09:42.18 | onetwo | or lost password |
| 09:42.25 | Sixen | = |
| 09:42.26 | Sixen | =\ |
| 09:47.13 | heysparky | I followed a tutorial to make auras that grant cool buffs, how do I use a similar system to buff just the 'caster' |
| 09:48.24 | onetwo | make range |
| 09:48.26 | onetwo | for the search |
| 09:48.28 | onetwo | quite small |
| 09:48.35 | onetwo | thats a quick fix |
| 09:48.36 | ekcolnovkol` | or use abilities-augument |
| 09:48.41 | onetwo | augment cant have levels though |
| 09:48.47 | ekcolnovkol` | or ability-behavior |
| 09:48.51 | heysparky | that's fine |
| 09:48.52 | ekcolnovkol` | you can use effect-issue order |
| 09:49.26 | ekcolnovkol` | what tutorial did you use btw |
| 09:49.34 | heysparky | I want to grant cliff-jumping (assuming the cliff jumping mover is sufficient for ground travel before the cliff jumping behavior is applied) |
| 09:49.38 | heysparky | Bifuu's |
| 09:50.03 | heysparky | Aura, Search, Apply, Buff |
| 09:50.38 | ekcolnovkol` | is it passive? |
| 09:50.40 | onetwo | its not really an aura then |
| 09:50.42 | onetwo | heysparky |
| 09:50.44 | onetwo | its just a buff |
| 09:50.50 | onetwo | so you can essentially eliminate 2 of those |
| 09:51.01 | onetwo | Behavior of buff type |
| 09:51.05 | onetwo | then pick its effect |
| 09:51.11 | onetwo | or wait |
| 09:51.15 | onetwo | is cliff jumping |
| 09:51.17 | onetwo | a behavior? |
| 09:51.26 | onetwo | then you only need 1 |
| 09:51.37 | onetwo | if its just your hero unit |
| 09:51.41 | onetwo | then just give him the behavior |
| 09:51.45 | onetwo | no need for this search crap |
| 09:51.57 | Sixen | ~seen sk1zot |
| 09:51.59 | purl | Sixen: i haven't seen 'sk1zot' |
| 09:52.03 | onetwo | . |
| 09:52.04 | onetwo | hahah |
| 09:52.16 | Sixen | It was skizot. oops. |
| 09:52.20 | Sixen | his aim is sk1zot :p |
| 09:53.26 | onetwo | ~seen skizot |
| 09:53.27 | purl | skizot <~skizot@105-189.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 6d 20h 22m 56s ago, saying: 'what?'. |
| 09:54.44 | heysparky | daggumit |
| 09:54.50 | heysparky | why are actors so touchy |
| 09:56.57 | heysparky | what would make something place correctly in the editor and have it's reactor placed as a sphere ingame? |
| 09:57.37 | depthsofchaos | you mean imported model? |
| 09:57.50 | heysparky | nope |
| 09:58.10 | heysparky | i copied the unit and the actor's all goofed now - but they don't appear to share names |
| 09:58.11 | depthsofchaos | theres different model for editor and ingame |
| 09:58.22 | Triceron | its missing a model |
| 09:58.43 | Triceron | you either need to fix the path |
| 09:58.47 | Triceron | or restart the editor |
| 09:58.55 | depthsofchaos | did you duplocate the actor? |
| 09:59.00 | heysparky | yes |
| 09:59.08 | heysparky | restarting... just in case |
| 09:59.10 | Triceron | try reloading first tho |
| 09:59.20 | Triceron | I get that bug all the time when swapping models |
| 09:59.35 | heysparky | ugh |
| 09:59.39 | onetwo | night |
| 09:59.40 | heysparky | 3am and not at all tired |
| 09:59.46 | heysparky | gnight onetwo |
| 09:59.49 | onetwo | ;D |
| 10:00.10 | Clord | time to play "imba magic" |
| 10:00.11 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:00.54 | heysparky | bah, reload no dice |
| 10:01.20 | depthsofchaos | make sure the model field isnt blank :o |
| 10:02.13 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 10:04.55 | heysparky | that's what it was |
| 10:05.03 | heysparky | it had grayed out autogenerated stuff in there |
| 10:05.09 | heysparky | so I thought it was cool |
| 10:05.11 | heysparky | ty |
| 10:10.35 | Krakarn | we want the world and we want it now |
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| 10:11.31 | Sixen | Dustin |
| 10:11.40 | Sixen | You know what i'm going to say :( |
| 10:12.48 | heysparky | thanks for y'all's help |
| 10:12.50 | heysparky | as always |
| 10:13.44 | heysparky | gnight folks |
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| 10:13.50 | Sixen | night! |
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| 10:15.18 | Helral|work | gnight Sparky. |
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| 10:40.43 | Pedo | http:where am ihttp://alturl.com/vk55?v |
| 10:40.47 | Pedo | v |
| 10:42.28 | Pedo | http://alturl.com/vk55http://alturl.com/vk55http://alturl.com/vk55 |
| 10:42.29 | Pedo | http://alturl.com/vk55 |
| 10:42.31 | Pedo | oops |
| 10:48.14 | Krakarn | dont click! |
| 10:48.59 | ekcolnovkol | um |
| 10:49.06 | ekcolnovkol | anyone know who enema4u is... |
| 10:49.08 | ekcolnovkol | <.<" |
| 10:55.43 | Clord | minor unit shortage |
| 10:55.45 | Clord | XD |
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| 10:59.56 | ekcolnovkol | um |
| 11:00.00 | ekcolnovkol | there's a guy... |
| 11:00.02 | ekcolnovkol | "Hi! |
| 11:00.03 | ekcolnovkol | I'm a software engineer studying for a PHD. I'd like to implement my research ideas in SC2. |
| 11:00.03 | ekcolnovkol | Would you be interested in using an experimental Galaxy library I'll provide? |
| 11:00.03 | ekcolnovkol | " |
| 11:00.12 | ekcolnovkol | i'm scared :( |
| 11:00.18 | ekcolnovkol | because, his name is "enema4u" |
| 11:00.23 | ekcolnovkol | q.q |
| 11:00.57 | Clord | lol |
| 11:01.12 | ekcolnovkol | like... really |
| 11:01.57 | Clord | lol |
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| 11:04.13 | SixTwo | in this guy's tutorial, he talks about tabs on the right, I have none wtf, any idea how to turn them on ? this is a picture explaining |
| 11:04.16 | SixTwo | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NG7_RGx8d6k/S_gXHBMNKxI/AAAAAAAAAEs/1oguGTv9NIU/s1600/blastpersist.png |
| 11:04.27 | Clord | my maps are so ready that I need inspiration probably for new multiplayer map |
| 11:04.44 | SixTwo | nvm i'm retarded |
| 11:04.51 | ekcolnovkol | or.. or.. you could make me a hero :o |
| 11:05.12 | ekcolnovkol | pastrami with swiss cheese pls |
| 11:05.41 | ekcolnovkol | o.o |
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| 11:33.02 | Clord | I found way to somewhat balance carrier... making those things what fly not killable |
| 11:33.11 | Clord | and voila |
| 11:33.17 | Clord | it becomes mostly cool attack animation |
| 11:33.20 | Clord | ^^ |
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| 11:40.19 | Sixen | Someone with a Bnet1.0 account bump this: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25399850364 |
| 11:40.22 | Sixen | thanks, <3. |
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| 11:47.17 | Hati | Too many attempts, try again later |
| 11:47.18 | Hati | :( |
| 11:56.07 | Sixen | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25482058159 -- for anyone interested in the naming system on bnet 2 |
| 12:03.49 | depthsofchaos | yay there will be cross region play |
| 12:04.25 | xgalaxy | link? |
| 12:04.25 | Jum-Jum | linksies |
| 12:04.54 | depthsofchaos | http://sc2pod.com/trackers/blue/?id=7786 |
| 12:07.11 | depthsofchaos | and chat channels also |
| 12:07.16 | depthsofchaos | but not on release |
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| 12:17.25 | Sixen | Ayup |
| 12:17.34 | Sixen | Funny that you use sc2pod, i'm a Staffie there. |
| 12:18.46 | Jum-Jum | if its not in release |
| 12:18.50 | Jum-Jum | then its not worth buying at release |
| 12:19.45 | SixTwo | the game is already in a very late stage of develpoment, I highlly doubt they'd be able to implement it for release even if they wanted |
| 12:20.21 | SixTwo | My guess is, they underestimated the need for chat-channels and are using their "soon" card while they work on implementing it |
| 12:24.05 | depthsofchaos | i rly wonder how will bnet handle 200k players :p |
| 12:24.12 | depthsofchaos | or more |
| 12:24.31 | depthsofchaos | anyway does anyone know how to reduce the selection range of a building?:o |
| 12:24.35 | depthsofchaos | i imported a model |
| 12:24.49 | depthsofchaos | and it can be selected even by not clikcing on it directly |
| 12:24.58 | depthsofchaos | like 5 feet away :/ |
| 12:27.04 | Jum-Jum | it worked in wc3 |
| 12:27.21 | Jum-Jum | but the guy who made b.net isnt working for blizz anymore so i have a feeling its not gonna turn out that great |
| 12:28.24 | depthsofchaos | i see thousands of troll threads :p and the forums burning |
| 12:29.28 | SixTwo | "You Have Been Chosen To Become a THOR PILOT" hell yeah :D |
| 12:29.57 | depthsofchaos | im a firebat xD |
| 12:30.17 | SixTwo | tiny little puny firebats THOR IS HERE ! |
| 12:30.22 | Sixen | lol |
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| 12:30.24 | Sixen | I was a Thor also |
| 12:30.41 | Hati | Sixen is everywhere :o |
| 12:30.44 | depthsofchaos | i wont be alowed to play multi :/ |
| 12:31.22 | Sixen | Everywhere. |
| 12:32.38 | Hati | but not in LA ? |
| 12:32.39 | Sixen | Including my bed. gnight guys. |
| 12:32.42 | Sixen | :P |
| 12:32.49 | Sixen | 5:30am. past my bedtime. |
| 12:32.52 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.55 | depthsofchaos | xD cu |
| 12:32.59 | Hati | so not in LA :P |
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| 13:21.53 | Clord | let's hope campaign Thor is not mini thor |
| 13:22.05 | Clord | like they say that it is still big bad ass in campaign ;) |
| 13:23.29 | depthsofchaos | i hope jim raynor is 2x the soze of the thor |
| 13:23.38 | Jum-Jum | i hope kerrigan dies |
| 13:23.43 | Jum-Jum | and we get a new overmind |
| 13:23.46 | depthsofchaos | no:( |
| 13:24.22 | depthsofchaos | i think they will unite against the zel naga or whatever :p |
| 13:29.30 | depthsofchaos | wow checking these spell contest entries |
| 13:29.47 | depthsofchaos | most looks sweet but rotten in the inside :P |
| 13:30.13 | depthsofchaos | like 30 actor event to do rotation :o |
| 13:30.21 | depthsofchaos | use turret maaaaan |
| 13:31.59 | Clord | I guess it is like those |
| 13:32.02 | Clord | no trigger people |
| 13:32.31 | depthsofchaos | it can be done without triggers but people always choose the simple way |
| 13:33.57 | depthsofchaos | but i dont thin making timers with 0.0001 expiry will work on the next |
| 13:34.08 | depthsofchaos | net* |
| 13:34.16 | depthsofchaos | + it lags |
| 13:36.21 | casperb | meh going insane over a single vertex :D |
| 13:37.42 | Jum-Jum | does it matter how its done really? as long as it works |
| 13:38.40 | depthsofchaos | of course it matters |
| 13:38.47 | depthsofchaos | you can eat soup with a fork too |
| 13:39.02 | depthsofchaos | does it make a difference? |
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| 13:39.33 | casperb | having things done cleanly is important for most people ^^ |
| 13:40.02 | depthsofchaos | i dun care if its messy but if it lags when i cast it on 5 target or more then something is wrong |
| 13:40.28 | Piddu | hi everybody |
| 13:40.39 | depthsofchaos | hi |
| 13:40.56 | casperb | hacks usually involve lag .p |
| 13:42.12 | Piddu | someone know hot to regen charges for a spell? |
| 13:42.40 | Piddu | i looked for that on forums but seems there's no clear way to do that =( |
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| 13:50.43 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/cardcraft-sc/. CardCraft SC. BeLugh (Manager/Author), helixdnb (Artist), Utilize123 (Artist). Approved by grum. |
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| 14:15.42 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/backwater-station/. Backwater Station. Wunterwaffen (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:15.49 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/cardcraftscv02a/. CardCraft SC V0.2a. BeLugh (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:16.47 | Clord | oh well... I get curious to do card game too finally |
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| 14:16.51 | Clord | was idea back in WCIII too |
| 14:17.01 | Clord | got inspired of that one weird map |
| 14:17.06 | Clord | where you draw more and more cards |
| 14:22.46 | Blobfish | if I change the HP of destructible rocks, does it work in melee too? |
| 14:24.44 | depthsofchaos | wut? |
| 14:25.07 | Blobfish | can the health of destructible objects be customized for melee mode? |
| 14:25.54 | depthsofchaos | theres a classification check |
| 14:25.56 | bam_ftw | yes |
| 14:25.57 | depthsofchaos | you can look at |
| 14:26.09 | depthsofchaos | not sure where it is exactly |
| 14:26.28 | depthsofchaos | map/map status |
| 14:27.14 | Blobfish | oh. |
| 14:27.35 | Blobfish | kthanksx. |
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| 14:38.28 | ekcolnovkol` | o.O lots of PMs |
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| 14:41.51 | Ka[L]ekin | Does anyone have any info on what is being changed in the release editor? |
| 14:42.49 | casperb | Doubt there will be anything noticable |
| 14:42.53 | casperb | beyond assets |
| 14:43.57 | Ka[L]ekin | Well we already know there are changes |
| 14:44.02 | Ka[L]ekin | Question is, what? |
| 14:44.43 | EternalWraith | Ka[L]ekin, you from s.a? |
| 14:44.56 | Ka[L]ekin | I am, yep. |
| 14:45.07 | EternalWraith | Cool. Me too |
| 14:45.12 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 14:45.20 | Ka[L]ekin | Small world. |
| 14:45.35 | EternalWraith | Especially online:p |
| 14:45.37 | Ka[L]ekin | :) |
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| 14:46.51 | depthsofchaos | i hope they add lights to the editor :o and emitters and... |
| 14:46.57 | Ka[L]ekin | Been fiddling with the editor for a while? |
| 14:47.03 | casperb | already are lights |
| 14:47.25 | Ka[L]ekin | Just want to know wether what is being worked on now is a wasted effort or not. |
| 14:47.30 | casperb | both local and infinite lights |
| 14:47.31 | depthsofchaos | ye you need a stupid doodad for it |
| 14:48.00 | depthsofchaos | thats nothing how light sources shoul be |
| 14:48.31 | casperb | Well, it's extensible |
| 14:48.51 | Ka[L]ekin | Want to know if there are any changes to what is capable through triggers |
| 14:49.00 | casperb | Ka[L]ekin: just ask ^^ |
| 14:49.01 | Ka[L]ekin | or aditions to the current want cinematics work |
| 14:49.10 | Ka[L]ekin | Like that is going to get any results. :P |
| 14:49.21 | Ka[L]ekin | Sixen has it all locked away in his head. |
| 14:49.25 | Ka[L]ekin | Got to get him to spill the beans. |
| 14:50.20 | casperb | status bars == actors or hardcoded? |
| 14:50.57 | Ka[L]ekin | Would only be abe to guess, hard coded. |
| 14:51.07 | Ka[L]ekin | Haven't looked to fiddle with it. |
| 14:52.06 | casperb | There's a whole vector UI layer tho ^^ |
| 14:52.27 | Ka[L]ekin | wut |
| 14:52.34 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 14:53.15 | Ka[L]ekin | UI Layer? Where? |
| 14:53.22 | casperb | Actor -> LAyer |
| 14:53.24 | casperb | Layer * |
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| 14:53.51 | casperb | Would assume it's a z-depth |
| 14:58.55 | casperb | Splats, Selections, etc have layers |
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| 15:28.24 | Piddu | ho can i delay the starting of an animation? |
| 15:28.30 | Piddu | how* |
| 15:29.05 | Hati | TimerSet TimerName Time |
| 15:29.14 | Hati | TimerExpire TimerName DoSmth() |
| 15:29.48 | Piddu | i explain better |
| 15:30.00 | Piddu | my marine makes attack animation when i use a skill |
| 15:30.13 | Piddu | but it start firing as i press the skill button |
| 15:30.39 | Piddu | and you see the marine firing without pointing the rifle |
| 15:30.56 | Hati | you need to target smth ? |
| 15:30.59 | Hati | for your skill |
| 15:31.09 | Piddu | no it targets a point |
| 15:31.14 | Hati | so yes |
| 15:31.18 | AsaPhelps | wow that lag painter guy is a really good artist |
| 15:31.55 | Hati | but still i don't see the problem |
| 15:33.19 | Piddu | after i click the point |
| 15:33.31 | Piddu | the marine fires with the rifle immediatly |
| 15:33.39 | Hati | yeah |
| 15:33.40 | Piddu | before it aims at the point |
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| 15:33.59 | Piddu | than it fires with the rifle pointed to the point |
| 15:34.01 | Hati | Marines don't have an aim animation |
| 15:34.17 | Hati | the fire animation is the "hold" + fire thingie |
| 15:34.22 | JoshSuth | Hello friendly SC2Mapster folks... I'm looking for some help with a specific problem, any map wizards here at the moment? |
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| 15:34.45 | Ka[L]ekin | If you need help with a problem you must give us the problem. |
| 15:34.57 | casperb | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 15:34.59 | casperb | :P |
| 15:34.59 | JoshSuth | Just wanted to make sure someone could help that wasn't afk |
| 15:35.16 | Ka[L]ekin | Well I don't know if I can help just yet, all depends on the issue. :P |
| 15:35.16 | Hati | Simply ask your questions, code with more than 3 lines create a pastey |
| 15:35.18 | JoshSuth | Ok so if you would take a look at this video between 0:35 and 0:41 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am-5Aydthwk |
| 15:35.22 | Ka[L]ekin | But I would be willing to try. |
| 15:35.41 | JoshSuth | So basically it's some zerglings killing a DT but it's on a black background or tileset |
| 15:35.58 | JoshSuth | I'm looking to film an animated intro for my YouTube series and this seems to be the easiest way to do it |
| 15:36.10 | JoshSuth | Make a black background/tileset and have units run around on it |
| 15:36.22 | casperb | and? |
| 15:36.32 | depthsofchaos | import a terrain texture set |
| 15:36.33 | JoshSuth | But I am a complete amateur and the only guy I asked told me he doesn't know how to do it (prodiG) |
| 15:36.39 | Hati | Trigger: Hide Terrain |
| 15:36.45 | casperb | no need to do that |
| 15:36.47 | depthsofchaos | even better xD |
| 15:36.50 | casperb | just hide the terrain cells in editor |
| 15:36.57 | depthsofchaos | or use the previwer |
| 15:37.14 | Ka[L]ekin | Josh, I think Hati's solution is easiest. :P |
| 15:37.23 | casperb | No mine doesn't even require code! |
| 15:37.24 | JoshSuth | Ok let me fire it up and take a look |
| 15:37.26 | Ka[L]ekin | Just add that trigger to your map initialization |
| 15:37.29 | casperb | just buttons! :P |
| 15:37.33 | Ka[L]ekin | :P |
| 15:37.38 | Ka[L]ekin | Personal preference ^_^ |
| 15:37.49 | JoshSuth | Ok now to be even more specific |
| 15:38.09 | JoshSuth | All I want to be on the black background is 1 marauder running away from 6-7 banelings from the left side of the screen off the right side |
| 15:38.30 | JoshSuth | Would that be easier to do using triggers or just making the units myself |
| 15:38.48 | JoshSuth | And manipulating the units myself |
| 15:38.52 | Ka[L]ekin | A combo of bouth most likely |
| 15:38.55 | Ka[L]ekin | *both |
| 15:39.00 | Ka[L]ekin | I would create a region |
| 15:39.02 | Ka[L]ekin | and a point |
| 15:39.13 | Ka[L]ekin | a square region on the left containing all the units in the positions you want |
| 15:39.18 | Ka[L]ekin | and a point on the righ |
| 15:39.24 | JoshSuth | That they all move to |
| 15:39.31 | JoshSuth | Sounds simple |
| 15:39.35 | Ka[L]ekin | then through triggers you would order all units contained inside the region in the left |
| 15:39.39 | Ka[L]ekin | to move to the point on the right |
| 15:39.54 | Ka[L]ekin | and hopefully they should stay nicely in your place positions |
| 15:40.00 | Ka[L]ekin | *placed |
| 15:40.02 | JoshSuth | Alright let me give all this a try and then play around with camera settings |
| 15:40.06 | JoshSuth | I may be back shortly haha |
| 15:40.10 | Ka[L]ekin | :) |
| 15:40.40 | JoshSuth | P.S. I'm a YouTube commentator and a caster for iCCup if you guys don't know who I am at all |
| 15:40.50 | Ka[L]ekin | I do not. |
| 15:40.52 | Ka[L]ekin | :P |
| 15:40.59 | Ka[L]ekin | But it sounds fantastic. :) |
| 15:41.01 | JoshSuth | I'm making this intro because I've found a sponsor for my YouTube videos and want to make it look a bit fancy |
| 15:41.28 | JoshSuth | http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy <--- that's me. I'm giving away a SC2 Collector's Edition too, btw. |
| 15:41.41 | Ka[L]ekin | you have my attention |
| 15:42.08 | JoshSuth | It's the video that autoplays when you click that link |
| 15:43.33 | Ka[L]ekin | Well, if you get stuck, give my other Kalekin a shout. :) |
| 15:44.09 | JoshSuth | Ok |
| 15:44.57 | casperb | JoshSuth: shipping etc outside US would basically make it cheaper to buy it yourself :P |
| 15:45.23 | JoshSuth | CE is $150 in Aus, shipping would only be $30-$40 I think |
| 15:45.42 | JoshSuth | But yeah I'm not gonna pay it =P |
| 15:45.49 | casperb | around here you have to pay 25% of retail value in tax aswell to get it in:P |
| 15:46.03 | JoshSuth | Well let's hope an American wins |
| 15:46.05 | JoshSuth | =P |
| 15:46.18 | Ka[L]ekin | Pffft. |
| 15:46.19 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 15:47.38 | JoshSuth | Ok since I am going to take an hour to do this map and it would only take one of you 1 minute, does somebody want to make the map for me and I just give them credit in my videos? haha |
| 15:47.55 | JoshSuth | There's e-fame in it for you! |
| 15:48.12 | Ka[L]ekin | Going to drive home in a minute, can throw something together when I get there. |
| 15:48.38 | casperb | JoshSuth: just an empty map? |
| 15:48.59 | casperb | i.e void/black |
| 15:49.06 | JoshSuth | An empty map that has 1 marauder running from left to right, with 6-7 banelings following him |
| 15:49.11 | JoshSuth | That's all |
| 15:49.13 | JoshSuth | I will fraps it |
| 15:49.40 | JoshSuth | Preferably a close-up camera shot too |
| 15:49.46 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/wallpaper-contest/ |
| 15:52.26 | casperb | JoshSuth: hm well simple to do, but isn't it kinda boring? :p |
| 15:53.19 | JoshSuth | It's part of an intro video I'm envisioning playing the sound clip "Let's have a blast!" and then the marauder running from the banelings while the baneling noises play |
| 15:53.26 | JoshSuth | Then just fading in my banner and my sponsor's banner |
| 15:53.33 | JoshSuth | The whole thing will only be 5-8 seconds |
| 15:53.38 | casperb | gimme 2 mins |
| 15:53.44 | JoshSuth | Sure! =) |
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| 15:55.11 | Helral|asleep | ever had fun with burrowing/unburrowing units? |
| 15:55.50 | JoshSuth | How do you mean |
| 15:55.53 | Helral|asleep | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJfYC5UuJW4 |
| 15:55.54 | Helral|asleep | ;p |
| 15:56.12 | Helral|asleep | should keep you busy while you wait for casper ;p |
| 15:56.48 | AsaPhelps | where do you live josh? |
| 15:57.00 | JoshSuth | South Carolina why |
| 15:57.08 | AsaPhelps | just watching your contest |
| 15:57.27 | JoshSuth | Basically if the winner is in the U.S. I will just change my preorder shipping address |
| 15:57.40 | JoshSuth | If the winner is outside the U.S. I will have to work with them |
| 15:58.04 | AsaPhelps | well I live in US so it doesn't matter to me |
| 15:58.09 | AsaPhelps | that usb dog tag is pretty cool though |
| 15:58.18 | casperb | small tho :P |
| 15:58.21 | AsaPhelps | I bet someone would buy the wow pet for like $20 |
| 15:58.30 | AsaPhelps | actually judging from some wow players, $100 |
| 15:59.55 | casperb | o.o editor is acting up again -.- |
| 15:59.58 | Dustin| | :O |
| 16:00.05 | JoshSuth | Yeah the mini-thor will likely be tied to whatever b.net account you install the game onto though |
| 16:00.17 | JoshSuth | Thus much harder to sell unless you sell your whole account |
| 16:00.37 | Dustin| | Itll be a Key code |
| 16:00.40 | Dustin| | like all the other pets |
| 16:01.34 | Clord | basic stuff of my card game is pretty much done... marine, marauder or ghost card appear... maximum 5 cards can be hold at any time |
| 16:01.36 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:03.49 | depthsofchaos | here i made the map :p http://www.mediafire.com/?mnz5nt1uhmd |
| 16:03.55 | depthsofchaos | just to beat casperb xD |
| 16:03.57 | casperb | http://www.mediafire.com/?0mzjwogmzjn |
| 16:03.58 | casperb | :P |
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| 16:04.02 | depthsofchaos | i win! |
| 16:04.03 | casperb | editor crapped out tho o.o |
| 16:04.19 | depthsofchaos | mines nicer tho |
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| 16:04.49 | Helral|asleep | you'll see that they both forgot to remove the melee map init trigger ;p |
| 16:04.55 | JoshSuth | depths! |
| 16:05.00 | casperb | removed mine :P |
| 16:05.06 | JoshSuth | That's awesome, I love that you can hear the sizzle too |
| 16:05.07 | casperb | it's a cinematic |
| 16:05.14 | JoshSuth | I am gonna watch casper's now |
| 16:05.29 | casperb | if it fails to load, i've managed to corrupt the map :P |
| 16:05.53 | casperb | happends for whatever arbitrary reason at times |
| 16:06.25 | JoshSuth | It did fail to load ;_; |
| 16:06.37 | casperb | go with depthsofchaos's then :P |
| 16:06.40 | JoshSuth | depthsofchaos, is it possible to lower/zoom in the camera? |
| 16:06.41 | Helral|asleep | lol |
| 16:06.46 | depthsofchaos | sure |
| 16:06.50 | casperb | JoshSuth: camera editor ^^ |
| 16:06.54 | JoshSuth | Give that a shot for me? =) |
| 16:06.56 | Kalekin | I see you already got a lot of people on it :p |
| 16:06.57 | depthsofchaos | just press C in the editor |
| 16:07.01 | depthsofchaos | and click on it |
| 16:07.03 | JoshSuth | Yes Kalekin good folks in here |
| 16:07.04 | depthsofchaos | then change distance |
| 16:07.11 | JoshSuth | Ok lemme fool with it |
| 16:07.16 | Kalekin | Will leave them to it then ^_^ |
| 16:07.38 | Helral|asleep | ^^ |
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| 16:08.06 | casperb | You keep us updated Heral :P |
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| 16:08.14 | casperb | from room to room o.O |
| 16:08.17 | Helral|eating | ;p |
| 16:08.28 | Helral|eating | forgot to log off at work ;p |
| 16:10.25 | Helral|eating | or should I do it like this: |
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| 16:10.46 | Helral | ;p |
| 16:10.51 | Helral | would drive ppl insane wouldn't it ;p |
| 16:10.54 | casperb | go on twitter -.- |
| 16:10.58 | casperb | :P |
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| 16:13.10 | Helral | I think using the name Gohla will cause connection errors ;p |
| 16:13.21 | Helral | roflol |
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| 16:13.37 | Gohla | No, just router fail, sorry :p |
| 16:13.51 | JoshSuth | Thanks to all of you for helping me out so quickly, I think I'll slap it on a video real quick and see how it looks =) |
| 16:14.10 | Clord | rare card.. nuclear strike... suddenly everything is wiped clean ^^ |
| 16:14.27 | Helral | aka armageddon? ;p |
| 16:15.18 | zrbecker | brb armageddon? |
| 16:15.23 | zrbecker | oh wait |
| 16:15.30 | Helral | lol |
| 16:17.00 | depthsofchaos | cool screenshot contest :o me like |
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| 16:20.23 | depthsofchaos | too bad the contest was over when it started |
| 16:20.28 | depthsofchaos | no one won :P |
| 16:22.20 | Dustin | Anyone got an idea how to increase how many behaviors a skill puts on untis as it levels up? |
| 16:22.42 | Helral | hmmm? how do you mean behaviors? |
| 16:24.40 | Helral | or better said: how do you mean skill ;p like in ability? ;p |
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| 16:32.48 | zrbecker | Is there a limit on how much you can put in the global data table? |
| 16:32.49 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 16:32.58 | HP-X|Arthas | sc2mapster just got tagged by the official starcraft facebook thingie |
| 16:33.09 | HP-X|Arthas | StarCraft Do you already know SC2Mapster? If the answer is "no", check out this source of amazing custom maps for StarCraft II! |
| 16:33.29 | HP-X|Arthas | congrats :> |
| 16:33.32 | HP-X|Arthas | is nice |
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| 16:34.27 | Fisker | damnit! |
| 16:34.49 | Fisker | mark my words nicoli_s |
| 16:34.52 | Fisker | i'll stop you! |
| 16:36.48 | Helral | hmmm you sure you won't get run over, Fisker? |
| 16:39.02 | nicoli_s | thats fucking awesome |
| 16:39.16 | JoshSuth | Grats guys |
| 16:39.33 | JoshSuth | I've had two videos featured by blizz's facebook and got 50k views overnight |
| 16:39.39 | JoshSuth | Each |
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| 16:40.16 | JoshSuth | Ok so opinion time... if a marauder is running for his life from 8 banelings, would it make more sense for him to say "let's have a blast!" or "don't leave me hangin!" |
| 16:40.41 | nicoli_s | awesome |
| 16:40.48 | Helral | how about: "mommy" ;p |
| 16:41.14 | Alpha_vst | or how about " i need backup" caus eyou know he does |
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| 16:41.30 | JoshSuth | Does the marauder say i need backup? |
| 16:41.32 | JoshSuth | lemme look |
| 16:41.36 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 16:41.41 | Bifuu | Blizz linked to us on Facebook =O |
| 16:41.51 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 16:43.43 | nicoli_s | i know bifuu we is famouz! |
| 16:44.01 | Bifuu | yayz! |
| 16:44.12 | HP-X|Arthas | Bifuu: old news! |
| 16:44.16 | HP-X|Arthas | like 10 mins :D |
| 16:44.31 | HP-X|Arthas | now for todays news! |
| 16:44.32 | Jum-Jum | bah |
| 16:44.35 | Bifuu | your face is old! |
| 16:44.35 | Jum-Jum | facebook isnt working for me |
| 16:44.37 | Jum-Jum | fucking ISP |
| 16:44.38 | HP-X|Arthas | i wanna quit my job! |
| 16:44.58 | HP-X|Arthas | although that is modly news |
| 16:45.01 | HP-X|Arthas | moldy* |
| 16:45.16 | HP-X|Arthas | how are you bifuu |
| 16:45.23 | HP-X|Arthas | long time since i saw you! |
| 16:45.32 | Bifuu | yeah been busy |
| 16:45.41 | Bifuu | sucks |
| 16:45.50 | HP-X|Arthas | :< |
| 16:45.55 | HP-X|Arthas | with what :D |
| 16:46.04 | Bifuu | i try to hop on as mucha s i can now cuz my friend gave me his old laptop |
| 16:46.08 | HP-X|Arthas | hint: spending time on gf is not a valud busy reason |
| 16:46.14 | HP-X|Arthas | ah |
| 16:46.18 | Bifuu | Work, Might be getting a promotion to a manager spot |
| 16:46.27 | HP-X|Arthas | what kind of work do you have? |
| 16:46.32 | Bifuu | Pizza lawl |
| 16:47.02 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 16:47.04 | HP-X|Arthas | nice |
| 16:47.05 | HP-X|Arthas | haha |
| 16:48.01 | Bifuu | Not really, buyt its money |
| 16:48.13 | zrbecker | free pizza? |
| 16:48.15 | AsaPhelps | is it possible to make it so only certain players can see terrain deformation? |
| 16:48.24 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 16:48.43 | Bifuu | Free Pizza/Wings/Breadsticks/ cheeseybread! |
| 16:48.52 | Bifuu | Only after we close |
| 16:49.01 | Bifuu | Why throw it away when i can eat it! |
| 16:49.09 | zrbecker | Nice. Trade you jobs! |
| 16:49.40 | Bifuu | i only get paid minimum wage, so sure! |
| 16:50.05 | AsaPhelps | someone should make a pizza delivery map |
| 16:50.09 | zrbecker | I am a student majoring in math, so I get paid nothing. =) |
| 16:50.26 | Bifuu | oh if that counts as a job |
| 16:50.34 | AsaPhelps | whats the last digit of pi becker? |
| 16:50.37 | zrbecker | Except when I tutor. When I tutor I eat. Makes for a hungry summer. >< |
| 16:50.39 | Bifuu | im majoring in Electrical Engineering aswell, so i must be a busy man |
| 16:50.41 | zrbecker | 7 |
| 16:51.03 | AsaPhelps | ~pi |
| 16:51.04 | purl | it has been said that pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 16:51.16 | zrbecker | pi is approximately 3 |
| 16:51.22 | AsaPhelps | exactly 3 |
| 16:51.25 | zrbecker | lol |
| 16:51.26 | Bifuu | pi is good |
| 16:51.26 | zrbecker | yeah |
| 16:51.44 | Bifuu | write 3.14 on your paper backwards |
| 16:51.47 | Bifuu | it spells pie |
| 16:51.55 | AsaPhelps | if we based our number system on something else would we be able to make pi an even number? |
| 16:52.01 | zrbecker | I use to work as a web programmer but then I started taking math classes and liked it, so I quit my job and decided to do something meaningless with my life. |
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| 16:54.30 | zrbecker | It was funny I was tutoring a student the last few weeks of spring quarter and they asked me if e was 2.71ish. And I couldn't remember. pi and e are just symbols you use to me, I have no idea what their values are. |
| 16:54.42 | Bifuu | I hope im making a good choice at not doing anything huge with mapping til the Game launches |
| 16:55.49 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 16:55.55 | Alpha_vst | probably |
| 16:56.08 | zrbecker | Do you think you can implement a wow like threat system with the tactical ai stuff? I was a pretty decent one set up with triggers, but I think something in the data editor would be more elegant. |
| 16:56.28 | zrbecker | I was = I have |
| 16:59.12 | Dustin | I made one for WC3 |
| 17:00.13 | zrbecker | with triggers or the AI stuff? |
| 17:00.37 | zrbecker | I never messed with wc3 editor so i dont know what it has |
| 17:00.42 | Dustin | triggers |
| 17:01.53 | Bifuu | brb changing comps to the shitty laptop so i can play on my ps3 =D |
| 17:01.53 | Dustin | WEll, units have Attack Priority fields, Id think youd be able to modify it with Data editor |
| 17:01.53 | Dustin | esentially making a threat system |
| 17:02.37 | zrbecker | Yeah, triggers is easier. Id like to understand their AI system a little more, but I have not seen a lot of resources on AI. =\ |
| 17:03.21 | Dustin | There's not really resources on anything yet :P |
| 17:03.29 | Dustin | so much stuff still un documented |
| 17:04.48 | nicoli_s | theres alot documented on mapster |
| 17:04.48 | zrbecker | Does Blizzard every release any documentation on their APIs? I read a book on the WoW interface API, but I never looked into if they had released their own docs. |
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| 17:05.28 | Bifuu | i back |
| 17:05.29 | nicoli_s | zrbecker:nope, its always up to the community to document it |
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| 17:05.44 | depthsofchaos | what if they hire a new guy?:o |
| 17:05.54 | depthsofchaos | they just tell him everything ? |
| 17:06.01 | zrbecker | I am sure they have internal docs. |
| 17:06.09 | Dustin | Damnit |
| 17:06.16 | Bifuu | docsfor what? O.o |
| 17:06.21 | nicoli_s | me too zrbecker |
| 17:06.28 | Dustin | Why cant I modify a untis attack priority through a behavior? :( |
| 17:06.42 | depthsofchaos | because that would be practical! |
| 17:07.03 | Dustin | I know! |
| 17:07.03 | depthsofchaos | tryed modify unit? |
| 17:07.04 | Dustin | Bahh |
| 17:07.07 | HP-X|Arthas | 18:51 <+Bifuu> write 3.14 on your paper backwards |
| 17:07.07 | HP-X|Arthas | 18:51 <+Bifuu> it spells pie |
| 17:07.08 | Dustin | ya |
| 17:07.12 | HP-X|Arthas | coincidence? I think not! |
| 17:07.13 | Dustin | It's not under there |
| 17:07.50 | zrbecker | lol |
| 17:08.05 | depthsofchaos | well you could always do a mortph or upgrade :P |
| 17:08.19 | Bifuu | is playing God of War 1 |
| 17:08.20 | depthsofchaos | or just store your own priority |
| 17:08.23 | depthsofchaos | much easier |
| 17:08.45 | Dustin | Hmm |
| 17:09.05 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:09.08 | Dustin | Would Suppress Threat make the unit not trigger an attack against it then? |
| 17:09.09 | Alpha_vst | i made my own system 0.o |
| 17:10.09 | Dustin | IF I can just get a behavior to modify attack priority, I could have an easy system setup |
| 17:10.25 | Alpha_vst | i needed a complex system :P |
| 17:11.47 | Dustin | CUnit_AttackTargetPriority |
| 17:12.08 | Dustin | thats what I want to modify, I just dont understand why they let you modify some fields but not all of them via Behaviors |
| 17:14.31 | depthsofchaos | how the hell do i refer to an attached image on mapster?:o |
| 17:16.41 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:21.52 | Alpha_vst | deleting this data from the data editor crashes my game :( |
| 17:21.58 | Alpha_vst | or editor |
| 17:22.02 | Dustin | I doubt there are any premade abilitys that mess with threat |
| 17:22.14 | Alpha_vst | there isnt |
| 17:26.02 | redmarine | Are blizzard still delivering patches? |
| 17:26.31 | redmarine | My client got some nasty issue so I'm redownloading the game |
| 17:28.20 | Alpha_vst | ... |
| 17:28.43 | Alpha_vst | oh yeah you still can download |
| 17:28.56 | redmarine | okay |
| 17:29.05 | redmarine | Just wanted to know |
| 17:31.53 | Alpha_vst | im pretty sure anyways |
| 17:31.57 | Alpha_vst | last i heard |
| 17:32.55 | redmarine | I see. |
| 17:33.23 | redmarine | The problem is that I am not able to view functions and variables |
| 17:33.31 | redmarine | They're all hidden so I have to make guesses |
| 17:38.07 | zrbecker | redmarine you try to download it again yet? |
| 17:38.16 | redmarine | Yeah |
| 17:38.19 | zrbecker | it work? |
| 17:38.24 | redmarine | Don't know yet |
| 17:38.28 | redmarine | Still downloading the client |
| 17:38.38 | redmarine | An hour left |
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| 17:39.02 | zrbecker | oh ok. I have the installers for mac and pc on my computer. Not sure if updating works, but Id imagine if they still let u download the client it should. |
| 17:39.15 | redmarine | Yeah, same. |
| 17:39.33 | Ashamed | whats up peeps |
| 17:39.37 | ekcolnovkol | anyone figure out levelable passives? ;_; |
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| 17:39.41 | ekcolnovkol | i am weeping blood here |
| 17:39.51 | ekcolnovkol | 4BLOOD FOR BLOOD |
| 17:39.56 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 17:40.48 | depthsofchaos | you mean attributes? |
| 17:40.54 | ekcolnovkol | no |
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| 17:41.00 | ekcolnovkol | well, kind of |
| 17:41.02 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 17:41.07 | ctccromer | can someone help me with a trigger please? |
| 17:41.09 | ekcolnovkol | o.o |
| 17:41.13 | ekcolnovkol | i never thought of them that way |
| 17:41.14 | depthsofchaos | well theres a tutorial on them |
| 17:41.18 | ekcolnovkol | genius |
| 17:41.52 | redmarine | Just ask your qeustions here |
| 17:42.03 | redmarine | We'll answer them if we are able to or want to. |
| 17:42.09 | redmarine | and* |
| 17:42.16 | ekcolnovkol | yes, i realize that's what this irc is for :u |
| 17:42.20 | ekcolnovkol | but |
| 17:42.27 | ctccromer | i want my characterto jump, but instead of (press space) = +height and (press space again) = -height, i want pressing space once to increase unit height then immediately decrease it once it hits the height ordered |
| 17:42.31 | ekcolnovkol | i'm too pro ;.; |
| 17:42.32 | redmarine | I mean, like link us to the code etc. |
| 17:43.23 | redmarine | Hm, what about a negative parabola? |
| 17:43.31 | redmarine | And only use the y axe? |
| 17:43.36 | redmarine | values from* |
| 17:43.41 | depthsofchaos | sad parabola :( |
| 17:43.59 | redmarine | MEh, there should be some jump formula somewhere |
| 17:44.02 | depthsofchaos | you should use behaviours |
| 17:44.15 | depthsofchaos | or you want acceleration? |
| 17:45.09 | redmarine | http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=490713 |
| 17:45.17 | redmarine | Try that code. |
| 17:45.25 | Repo | 10yabot: 03vlovsky * r35 YABOT/TriggerLibs/YABOT/BuildOrderUtils.galaxy: Small typo fix |
| 17:45.39 | redmarine | Love how programing formula are universal :D |
| 17:45.48 | redmarine | formulas |
| 17:46.03 | zrbecker | Can you set your unit underground with the height thing? |
| 17:46.04 | casperb | math is kinda.. math regardless :P |
| 17:46.16 | zrbecker | Because if so you want to do some extra checking. |
| 17:46.26 | Ashamed | i am so ready to go home.. |
| 17:46.54 | casperb | yeah you can place units below ground with UnitSetHeight |
| 17:47.16 | casperb | unit height != absolute height tho |
| 17:47.23 | casperb | relative to the height map |
| 17:48.19 | ekcolnovkol | oh my god |
| 17:48.34 | ekcolnovkol | is stunned for 2 seconds. |
| 17:48.46 | ekcolnovkol | @.@ |
| 17:49.10 | casperb | what's up? o.o |
| 17:49.11 | zrbecker | well you would still want to do checking of the height of the map. If you use absolute height you would end up under ground if you jumped onto a cliff, with unit height your unit would jump higher or lower based on the height of the terrian. Jumping over a deep hole would be interesting. |
| 17:49.38 | casperb | but unit height = relative height, so for jumps you wouldn't have to worry about it |
| 17:49.51 | casperb | collisions etc you would have to get absolute height |
| 17:50.01 | casperb | which would be terrain height + unit height |
| 17:50.28 | depthsofchaos | but if you want to accelerate it will lag online im sure :o |
| 17:51.00 | depthsofchaos | unless someone knows how to use reaper jump withut cliff :o |
| 17:51.16 | casperb | I just fake it |
| 17:51.28 | casperb | a set of set unit height's |
| 17:51.54 | depthsofchaos | doesnt it look choppy? |
| 17:52.13 | casperb | nah, they are interpolated |
| 17:52.57 | JoshSuth | depthsofchaos what's your youtube username, I'll show you the intro I made from your map |
| 17:52.58 | casperb | plan to change it tho, to have more fun with enviroment gravity ^^ |
| 17:53.14 | depthsofchaos | its depthsofchaos :p |
| 17:53.50 | JoshSuth | Check your youtube inbox =) |
| 17:54.29 | redmarine | So, how the heck so I lower the water? |
| 17:54.38 | depthsofchaos | hehe its good you should add a blow up sound after it:p |
| 17:54.39 | redmarine | I can't select it |
| 17:54.40 | casperb | edit the water state |
| 17:54.58 | JoshSuth | I was thinking about that depths, I might make that an outro |
| 17:55.00 | JoshSuth | =P |
| 17:55.10 | redmarine | How do I edit that? |
| 17:55.12 | JoshSuth | for 2 or 3-part games |
| 17:55.17 | redmarine | Or better, how do I select the water |
| 17:55.43 | AsaPhelps | JOHANNESBURG -- Police say a South African man who wanted to watch a World Cup match instead of a religious program was beaten to death by his family in the northeastern part of the country. |
| 17:55.54 | AsaPhelps | that is why I like soccer |
| 17:56.25 | redmarine | Interesting |
| 17:56.45 | redmarine | Now if only people wouldn't actually believe in such stuff |
| 17:56.57 | AsaPhelps | believe in what? |
| 17:57.04 | redmarine | Religion |
| 17:57.25 | redmarine | or anything like that |
| 17:57.29 | redmarine | similar* |
| 17:57.54 | AsaPhelps | I wonder if apple is considered a religion |
| 17:58.15 | redmarine | nah |
| 17:58.20 | redmarine | It is more like a cult |
| 17:58.21 | AsaPhelps | I should write a paper on how people worship apple which is the forbidden fruit |
| 17:58.27 | AsaPhelps | and thus people who like apple are evil |
| 17:58.43 | redmarine | It only becomes a religion when enough people believe in it. |
| 17:58.55 | AsaPhelps | well 2 million people bought an ipad |
| 17:59.01 | AsaPhelps | so thats 2 million right there |
| 17:59.03 | redmarine | until then it is a cult |
| 17:59.13 | redmarine | then agian, they don't believe in the apple |
| 17:59.18 | redmarine | They bought a prodult |
| 18:00.03 | AsaPhelps | they believe in any product with an apple logo on it |
| 18:00.12 | redmarine | It doesn't fit the definition of a faith |
| 18:00.24 | redmarine | which is pretty much religion |
| 18:02.39 | HP-X|Arthas | Things I hate, sounding happy while talking to ppl |
| 18:02.50 | HP-X|Arthas | that includes all of you! |
| 18:03.02 | redmarine | :) |
| 18:03.13 | depthsofchaos | who said we are people |
| 18:03.13 | redmarine | ';_;' |
| 18:03.26 | HP-X|Arthas | right, i forgot you are non-swedes ;p |
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| 18:03.31 | depthsofchaos | we are the projections of your mind :o |
| 18:03.35 | Demonette | XD |
| 18:04.19 | HP-X|Arthas | so, sc2mapster never really happened eh? |
| 18:04.36 | HP-X|Arthas | please please please, wake up and realize internet doesnt exist, then patent it |
| 18:04.48 | AsaPhelps | i'd pirate the internet |
| 18:04.48 | Bifuu | anyone else here excited for the 3DS? lol |
| 18:05.03 | AsaPhelps | i'm interested to see how well they can do the 3d without glasses |
| 18:05.06 | casperb | "the 3DS"? |
| 18:05.20 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 18:05.26 | AsaPhelps | have you ever petted cute animals in 3d? |
| 18:05.26 | Bifuu | new nintendo DS with a #D screen without the need of glasses |
| 18:05.28 | Alpha_vst | amazing games already for it |
| 18:05.31 | AsaPhelps | because thats what the 3ds will let you do |
| 18:05.46 | Alpha_vst | and play awesome games |
| 18:05.55 | Alpha_vst | did you see the list of games? |
| 18:06.02 | Alpha_vst | already coming out for it |
| 18:06.04 | casperb | on nintendo.. yeah nintendo always had awesome graphics :P |
| 18:06.05 | AsaPhelps | i find it amazing how many old generation games are for the new gens |
| 18:06.13 | Bifuu | i was sold on Starfox 64 remake, OOT remake, and a 3d Kingdom hearts game |
| 18:06.22 | AsaPhelps | starfox 64 was so fun |
| 18:06.22 | Bifuu | 3d MGS3 also would be neat |
| 18:06.33 | AsaPhelps | will all of 3ds's games be in 3d? |
| 18:06.42 | Bifuu | yes and no |
| 18:06.44 | Alpha_vst | they have a slider |
| 18:06.45 | Bifuu | its got a slider |
| 18:06.48 | Alpha_vst | you can turn it off |
| 18:06.53 | Bifuu | so you can chose to 3d it or 2d it |
| 18:07.01 | AsaPhelps | what about 4d |
| 18:07.07 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:07.30 | Bifuu | OOT is 4d! you contol time in it! |
| 18:07.41 | AsaPhelps | the 3DS will allow you to install your software to the handheld's internal memory. |
| 18:07.42 | casperb | time travel ftw! o.o |
| 18:07.45 | AsaPhelps | interesting |
| 18:09.09 | AsaPhelps | http://www.destructoid.com/e3-10-nintendo-3ds-getting-a-crapton-of-games-update--176534.phtml |
| 18:09.15 | AsaPhelps | martha stewart the video game |
| 18:09.21 | AsaPhelps | that should be fun? |
| 18:09.37 | Bifuu | lol |
| 18:09.45 | depthsofchaos | will you rly buy this ?:p |
| 18:09.51 | Alpha_vst | not as fun as LOVELY LISA 3D |
| 18:09.53 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 18:09.55 | Alpha_vst | CANT WAIT |
| 18:10.09 | AsaPhelps | 3D BREASTS INC? |
| 18:10.12 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 18:10.16 | Alpha_vst | its a fashion game |
| 18:10.18 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:10.22 | Alpha_vst | i was kidding... |
| 18:10.35 | depthsofchaos | no sex game? ..lost interest |
| 18:10.36 | AsaPhelps | lol I like "Sonic (name not final)" |
| 18:11.13 | Hati | will be 2d |
| 18:11.16 | Alpha_vst | de Blob 2, Super Monkey Ball, and all teh nintendo games :P |
| 18:11.23 | AsaPhelps | persona will be for the 3ds? |
| 18:11.26 | Alpha_vst | is what im wanting so far lol |
| 18:11.29 | AsaPhelps | wasn't that a ps2 exclsuive? |
| 18:11.37 | Alpha_vst | was |
| 18:11.39 | AsaPhelps | or sony at least |
| 18:11.49 | Alpha_vst | shit cahnges all the time |
| 18:12.03 | Alpha_vst | and one reason why battle toads will never be remade |
| 18:12.08 | AsaPhelps | like how 10 years ago sega was a console and not just a terrible game |
| 18:12.20 | AsaPhelps | well developer now |
| 18:12.37 | Alpha_vst | they sucked at making systems :P |
| 18:12.41 | AsaPhelps | i'm not liking all these remakes and stuf |
| 18:12.54 | AsaPhelps | seems everything is either a sequel or just an old game for a new system |
| 18:13.00 | Hati | they always forget the epic stuff :( |
| 18:13.09 | AsaPhelps | segacd was awesome |
| 18:13.19 | Hati | except OOT |
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| 18:14.10 | AsaPhelps | they said they're nerfing the water temple |
| 18:14.14 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZGhrJ5VBF0 |
| 18:14.21 | AsaPhelps | e3 is over right? |
| 18:14.24 | AsaPhelps | or is it still going on |
| 18:14.28 | Hati | still on |
| 18:14.31 | Hati | 15-17 |
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| 18:14.33 | Hati | LA Time |
| 18:14.42 | Hati | dunno if they stop at 12pm |
| 18:14.48 | Hati | or 16pm |
| 18:14.58 | redmarine | Guys, units that can't be selected(turned off in data editor > flag) can't be set to in variables? |
| 18:15.01 | AsaPhelps | is today the last day? |
| 18:15.11 | Hati | today is the 17th |
| 18:15.28 | AsaPhelps | touche |
| 18:15.37 | Hati | http://www.e3expo.com/ |
| 18:16.21 | Alpha_vst | new silent hill awesome |
| 18:16.28 | AsaPhelps | this year wasn't anything groundbreaking though |
| 18:16.42 | AsaPhelps | 3d seems more like a gimmick than innovation |
| 18:16.55 | Hati | yea 3dconsoles |
| 18:17.00 | Hati | only developed for 3d tvs |
| 18:17.03 | Hati | ... |
| 18:17.08 | Alpha_vst | yeah pretty lame |
| 18:17.39 | Hati | where's the motion-capturing realtime action game :( |
| 18:18.09 | redmarine | I want a zombie natal game where we can control zombies' arms to tear people apart |
| 18:19.37 | Bifuu | its not natal anymore! |
| 18:19.55 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:19.59 | Alpha_vst | they fucked it over? |
| 18:20.05 | Alpha_vst | i missed that conferance |
| 18:20.16 | Bifuu | Kinect |
| 18:20.19 | Bifuu | is its name |
| 18:21.00 | redmarine | Let me dream! I want to call it natal |
| 18:21.08 | redmarine | But I understand the name change |
| 18:21.34 | redmarine | lol... In Danish it sounds like Knægt which means boy |
| 18:21.37 | Bifuu | i want move more than kinect |
| 18:21.51 | Bifuu | ps3 just has more power so the games will be better |
| 18:21.54 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ET6PqZtYd4 |
| 18:21.56 | Hati | this ? |
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| 18:22.05 | Hati | like i said Bifuu :P |
| 18:22.06 | Bifuu | i have a feeling most of the 360's cpu will be used on reading the player |
| 18:22.08 | redmarine | The move experience will most likely cost more than $1000 for a bundle |
| 18:22.12 | Hati | realtime motion capturing |
| 18:22.26 | redmarine | It can be used for the PC as well |
| 18:22.27 | redmarine | I heard |
| 18:22.32 | EternalWraith | Can someone help me with this minor problem im having? Regarding timers |
| 18:22.35 | redmarine | Bill Gates talked about it |
| 18:22.46 | Hati | Ask EternalWraith |
| 18:22.50 | Hati | and answers will come |
| 18:22.59 | Bifuu | Move is 100 bucks if you dont have the PS Eye |
| 18:23.12 | Bifuu | if you got an Eye for it its only like 40 for the controller |
| 18:23.15 | EternalWraith | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.54 | casperb | Starting the last started timer |
| 18:23.59 | casperb | which may be null |
| 18:24.25 | casperb | EternalWraith: what do you want to do? |
| 18:24.38 | EternalWraith | So right, it just appears as 0 in game |
| 18:24.42 | EternalWraith | does not work |
| 18:24.42 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 18:24.46 | casperb | yeah you aren't starting a timer :P |
| 18:25.11 | Alpha_vst | dont use last staretd timer |
| 18:25.16 | casperb | You are starting the last started timer, and creating a timer window for a new timer |
| 18:25.17 | Hati | last created |
| 18:25.40 | casperb | other way around works |
| 18:25.50 | Alpha_vst | yeah he got it backwards |
| 18:26.18 | EternalWraith | Oh wait sorry, 1 sec, I think i pasted it wrong. This is how it currently is |
| 18:26.23 | EternalWraith | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.45 | casperb | -.-, just pastie the whole trigger |
| 18:26.59 | casperb | pastie.org |
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| 18:27.42 | Alpha_vst | pastebin.com |
| 18:27.44 | Alpha_vst | better :P |
| 18:27.51 | casperb | nah :p |
| 18:27.56 | casperb | pastebin looks like crap o.o |
| 18:28.15 | Bifuu | paste.sc2mapster.com ! |
| 18:28.26 | casperb | also looks like crap :P |
| 18:28.31 | casperb | new theme looks better tho ^^ |
| 18:29.10 | EternalWraith | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.10 | casperb | but mapster's paste has formatting issues |
| 18:29.32 | casperb | EternalWraith: meh, we listed 3 paste sites -.- |
| 18:29.39 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:31.25 | EternalWraith | Sorry , I dont see any conflict within the trigger. Elapsed timer = 1 second event, do the actions that were pasted. And..Cant figure out why its not working |
| 18:32.13 | EternalWraith | http://pastebin.com/UjdhExQz |
| 18:33.00 | Alpha_vst | use map int no need to do a timer... |
| 18:33.34 | EternalWraith | The event is to blame then? |
| 18:33.56 | Alpha_vst | idono probably not |
| 18:34.00 | Alpha_vst | jsut saying |
| 18:34.00 | casperb | shouldn't be |
| 18:34.19 | casperb | as long as everything is done in the same scope it should work |
| 18:36.51 | EternalWraith | Hmm,Very strange,,I`ll try the triggers in a new map, maybe other triggers are conflicting with it. |
| 18:40.29 | EternalWraith | Nope didnt work there either. Looks like I have no idea how to create a timer hehe |
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| 18:51.20 | gwho | im trying to modify an icon |
| 18:51.23 | gwho | it exports it as tga format |
| 18:51.27 | gwho | and i can't seem to open it |
| 18:51.43 | gwho | it gives me this adobe license agreement, but after i accept it never opens |
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| 18:57.37 | Clord | I started today make this real time card game.... minerals dictate card draws automatically and gas dictates as "mana" to use certain cards ;) |
| 18:58.54 | EternalWraith | Sounds interesting.. |
| 18:59.03 | EternalWraith | I played a "card" based sc2 map today |
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| 19:08.29 | Alpha_vst | does anyone know in pixels or soemthing how big a 1 unit of space is? |
| 19:09.47 | nicoli_s | depends entirely on your screen resolution id imagine |
| 19:10.22 | depthsofchaos | approximately the size of an adult ultralisk's vagina |
| 19:11.39 | Alpha_vst | well the size of a space does not cahnge |
| 19:12.52 | casperb | it does |
| 19:13.06 | casperb | can't measure 3d space in pixels |
| 19:13.41 | hyarion | voxel is the closest you get |
| 19:13.44 | casperb | depends on the angle, fov,distance, etc |
| 19:13.57 | hyarion | :) |
| 19:13.59 | Nevir | and your resolution |
| 19:14.13 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 19:14.19 | depthsofchaos | and whether the ultralisk is giving birth |
| 19:14.57 | casperb | Good thing zerg spawn larva, imagine a queen birthing an ultralisk |
| 19:15.01 | casperb | considering they are fullgrown at birth |
| 19:15.09 | deathnight114 | ouch |
| 19:15.15 | Nevir | If you want to see /relatively/ how large a unit of game distance is: turn on the grid in the terrain editor, and set it to small. Each square is one unit |
| 19:15.24 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 19:15.30 | Alpha_vst | and thats what im asking |
| 19:15.53 | Nevir | Confused what you're asking, then :P |
| 19:15.59 | Alpha_vst | im trying to match my grid to the grid |
| 19:16.08 | Nevir | on a texture? |
| 19:16.11 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 19:16.28 | depthsofchaos | well export their texture and check it |
| 19:16.32 | Nevir | well, your texture is stretched across a model of some size |
| 19:16.49 | casperb | cell size != unit size |
| 19:16.50 | Nevir | so take the size of that model and subdivide it |
| 19:17.05 | Alpha_vst | its the ground texture of the world |
| 19:17.14 | Nevir | Oh, terrain texture |
| 19:17.29 | casperb | yeah figured, terrain cells are smaller than grid units |
| 19:18.12 | Alpha_vst | http://i47.tinypic.com/1zwke10.jpg i want that texture to match up |
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| 19:18.17 | casperb | i.e the texture space, but just export an already existing texture to find it's size |
| 19:18.33 | Alpha_vst | hmmm good idea |
| 19:18.39 | Nevir | It's probably mapped so that each terrain cell's width matches a power of 2 of pixes on the texture |
| 19:18.48 | Nevir | pixels, rather |
| 19:19.06 | casperb | 128*128 or 64*64 most likely |
| 19:19.20 | Alpha_vst | is the size of one cell? |
| 19:19.30 | Nevir | guessing |
| 19:19.38 | casperb | probally the size of the textures |
| 19:19.47 | casperb | but again uv space is 0-1 |
| 19:20.01 | Nevir | but the overall texture is very very likely an exact power of two, and the texture very very likely maps to a nice rounded number of terrain cells |
| 19:20.31 | Alpha_vst | so i should start with exporting one |
| 19:20.44 | casperb | would be the easiest yeh ^^ |
| 19:20.44 | Nevir | Yeah, definitely |
| 19:20.51 | casperb | rather than guessing like we are now :P |
| 19:20.57 | Alpha_vst | here i am trying to guesstamate |
| 19:21.02 | Alpha_vst | why i asked |
| 19:21.13 | Alpha_vst | importing over and over again sucks :P |
| 19:21.22 | casperb | hehe yeah |
| 19:21.32 | casperb | should be able to click a button to reimport o.o |
| 19:21.57 | casperb | my paths always get screwed when reimporting, so end up having to remove everything and reimport everything |
| 19:23.02 | Alpha_vst | ewwwww |
| 19:23.26 | Alpha_vst | ive saved a bit of space im happy though |
| 19:23.33 | Alpha_vst | i have been cleaning up soem shit |
| 19:23.58 | casperb | like the textures btw ^^ |
| 19:24.20 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 19:24.32 | casperb | would be even sweeter if scanned a hand drawn texture diffuse map tho :D |
| 19:24.38 | Nevir | I mean, another option is to zoom in as far as you can in the editor and attempt to count the blurred together pixels on a terrain cell :P |
| 19:24.58 | casperb | or fake it in photoshop, but takes more effort than just draw some sketchy lines along the uv map |
| 19:25.58 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 19:26.23 | Alpha_vst | whats the differance between diffuse and emissive? i still dont get that |
| 19:26.29 | casperb | diffuse is color |
| 19:26.34 | casperb | emissive is well, emissive light |
| 19:27.02 | xgalaxy | ^^ |
| 19:27.03 | casperb | i.e on ultra emissive materials emit light |
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| 19:27.40 | Alpha_vst | so emissive is just for the ligting and glows on textures? |
| 19:27.45 | casperb | pretty much |
| 19:27.52 | Alpha_vst | and diffuse handles all the textures and color? |
| 19:28.12 | xgalaxy | not necessarily |
| 19:28.14 | xgalaxy | but ya |
| 19:28.41 | Alpha_vst | well its confusing cause they both have textures in them lol |
| 19:29.01 | casperb | Well, take specular map for example |
| 19:29.34 | casperb | defines the the level of specular sensitivity, if it was just spots of values it would look like crap |
| 19:30.51 | Alpha_vst | those are the orange ones right? |
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| 19:30.57 | casperb | meh shaders and lighting theory is a long subject |
| 19:31.00 | casperb | nah that's the normal map |
| 19:31.34 | Alpha_vst | well i think i understand it more now over mindless editing files :P |
| 19:32.13 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 19:32.33 | casperb | lo |
| 19:33.00 | Nevir | afternoon |
| 19:33.38 | Alpha_vst | hi hi heysparky |
| 19:33.40 | Nevir | Bah, is there any way to take a unit and get a unique string value for it? Trying to do lookups for a given unit rather than iterating a list |
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| 19:34.36 | Beider | Did anyone bother reading the SC2 EULA to see what kind of rights blizzard reserve towards the maps we create in the editor? |
| 19:34.44 | Alpha_vst | can you add a alias to it with actor message and then referanc that? |
| 19:34.48 | nicoli_s | of course not beider |
| 19:34.55 | Alpha_vst | why would we |
| 19:34.56 | casperb | Half way, they own everything |
| 19:35.06 | Hati | well they own your soul and the typical stuff |
| 19:35.08 | nicoli_s | well if you make a map with MWE we dont own anything :P |
| 19:35.09 | Hati | nothing more beider |
| 19:35.26 | depthsofchaos | for every sc related thought you pas 5 dollars |
| 19:35.33 | depthsofchaos | *pay |
| 19:35.42 | casperb | Short story, don't bother using your own assets etc |
| 19:35.54 | Alpha_vst | you actually do nicolis the code is yours anything you create and import into the game is yours |
| 19:36.09 | nicoli_s | Alpha_vst:who said you have to import a map into the game? |
| 19:36.11 | depthsofchaos | but the 20mb limit slaps you in the face |
| 19:36.37 | casperb | you give blizzard the right to do whatever they want with your stuff tho |
| 19:36.38 | depthsofchaos | or is it 10 mb.. |
| 19:36.45 | casperb | even repackage it and sell it |
| 19:36.56 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 19:36.58 | nicoli_s | well just never play yer maps and it wont happen :P |
| 19:37.14 | depthsofchaos | 1 texture is 1 mb |
| 19:37.16 | Alpha_vst | if they did that i would release it free |
| 19:37.17 | depthsofchaos | basically :o |
| 19:37.28 | Alpha_vst | no its 500kb or less |
| 19:37.34 | Alpha_vst | about |
| 19:37.53 | xgalaxy | dds compresses really well. if your texture is 1mb then something is wrong |
| 19:38.08 | depthsofchaos | i dont think imported models work with dds |
| 19:38.09 | casperb | and 512x512 seems to be the resolution for high poly maps so.. |
| 19:38.15 | casperb | ofc they do |
| 19:40.04 | depthsofchaos | isnt this dds a made up file format?:o |
| 19:40.29 | Nevir | Ot |
| 19:40.39 | Alpha_vst | its 128*128 for terrain cells |
| 19:40.41 | Alpha_vst | go me |
| 19:40.48 | Nevir | It's probably the most common texture format in use out there |
| 19:41.01 | casperb | dds is pretty standard the gaming industry |
| 19:41.10 | Alpha_vst | yeah lol |
| 19:41.40 | Alpha_vst | fuck terrain fiels are fucking HUGE!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:41.43 | depthsofchaos | and its still not in photoshop |
| 19:41.50 | casperb | dds? |
| 19:41.50 | Nevir | I bet |
| 19:41.51 | casperb | sure it is |
| 19:41.58 | casperb | just download nvidia's toolkit for it |
| 19:42.03 | Nevir | http://developer.nvidia.com/object/photoshop_dds_plugins.html |
| 19:42.13 | Nevir | only works in 32-bit versions of photoshop though |
| 19:42.26 | depthsofchaos | thx |
| 19:42.39 | Nevir | yarp |
| 19:42.49 | casperb | Works in CS5 aswell ^^ |
| 19:42.56 | casperb | (32 bit) |
| 19:44.06 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 19:44.11 | Alpha_vst | what im using right now |
| 19:44.32 | Alpha_vst | only the trail though cause i rules |
| 19:44.39 | casperb | CS5 trial has run out, no more sexy brushes |
| 19:45.36 | Krakarn | crack? |
| 19:45.54 | Clord | be good dog and pay from it, eh? |
| 19:45.55 | Clord | XD |
| 19:46.11 | Nevir | I miss the educational discount for adobe stuff :( |
| 19:46.25 | casperb | on CS4 until next semester :p |
| 19:46.31 | casperb | not paying full price o.o |
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| 19:46.53 | Clord | if you gonna get it anyways eventually |
| 19:46.57 | Clord | you can just take early taste |
| 19:47.10 | Clord | no need to sacrifice potential for some greedy business who never know your name |
| 19:47.11 | Clord | XD |
| 19:48.27 | Nevir | Eh, Adobe's more concerned with selling the stuff to other businesses anyway. Home users cracking it likely help their business anyway :P (more folk who know how to use it and get hired by a company that needs it) |
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| 19:52.17 | Alpha_vst | a new mac mini wtf |
| 19:52.30 | Nevir | HDMI port! |
| 19:52.36 | Alpha_vst | FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:52.50 | Nevir | Best media center machine evar, now |
| 19:52.56 | Alpha_vst | yeah :( |
| 19:53.01 | Alpha_vst | i have ver 2 |
| 19:53.40 | Alpha_vst | got it the week it came out lol |
| 19:53.44 | Nevir | Hah |
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| 19:54.34 | Alpha_vst | same specs though pretty much |
| 19:55.49 | Alpha_vst | woot i have a texture template now |
| 19:55.57 | Nevir | nice :) |
| 19:56.32 | Alpha_vst | hopefully it works :P |
| 19:56.45 | casperb | Alpha_vst: plan to paper up all the buildings etc? |
| 19:56.56 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 19:56.59 | Nevir | Curse this fixed width junk! |
| 19:57.03 | Nevir | curse it! |
| 19:57.15 | Alpha_vst | i want custom models |
| 19:57.18 | Hati | hmm ? |
| 19:57.21 | Alpha_vst | at least for zombies |
| 19:57.24 | Alpha_vst | for now |
| 19:57.40 | heysparky | Hey Nev, on that omni light you helped me with last night - when the object is loaded into a transport it sticks around, so if the transport picks up several (and it will) it glows like mad (which is somewhat appropriate give the nature of the cargo BUT...) |
| 19:57.56 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 19:58.01 | Nevir | Hmm |
| 19:58.09 | Alpha_vst | do a event of in trasport |
| 19:58.12 | Alpha_vst | or something |
| 19:58.13 | Alpha_vst | like that |
| 19:58.17 | casperb | bipeds take a bit of time to rig etc, but might toss some textures at ya :p |
| 19:58.31 | heysparky | I went down that path a bit last night |
| 19:58.39 | heysparky | no dice |
| 19:58.55 | heysparky | but I could have just been tired :) |
| 19:59.09 | Nevir | Is the omni light creating its self on unit birth? |
| 20:00.22 | Nevir | Mostly, you need *some* event that destroys the omni light actor |
| 20:00.26 | casperb | actor or trigger based? |
| 20:00.30 | Nevir | Which even that is, I'm not quite sure |
| 20:00.31 | Nevir | actor |
| 20:00.38 | Nevir | event* that is, rather |
| 20:00.43 | casperb | You can hide actors tho? |
| 20:00.55 | casperb | so cargo load/unload would hide/unhide |
| 20:01.00 | RickA | How would I give a passive ability a cooldown? |
| 20:01.05 | RickA | At least, one the player can see. |
| 20:01.10 | Nevir | Yeah, but the light's an attachment to the unit model - the unit's actor's probably been destroyed already by loading it in as cargo |
| 20:01.39 | Nevir | Or does that just hide? |
| 20:01.42 | casperb | ah cargo unit's are destroyed? figured they where just hidden |
| 20:01.44 | casperb | think they just hide |
| 20:01.46 | Alpha_vst | so abiltrasport.Trasportunit / destory dont work? |
| 20:02.08 | Nevir | That sounds like it might work |
| 20:02.16 | heysparky | they become invisible... the validator I use to grant the effect to the transport for carrying hte cargo uses Is Not Visible (or something like that) |
| 20:02.28 | Nevir | ah bingo |
| 20:02.30 | heysparky | BUT the glow is an attachment that persists |
| 20:02.50 | Nevir | on the glow's model |
| 20:02.51 | heysparky | Alpha - no that didn't work |
| 20:03.04 | Nevir | see if checking "Visibility" under inherited properties works |
| 20:03.07 | Nevir | might |
| 20:03.36 | heysparky | where do you store all this stuff, Nev? |
| 20:03.45 | Nevir | Lol |
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| 20:05.30 | casperb | swappable flash memory! |
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| 20:10.33 | Alpha_vst | WELL |
| 20:10.37 | Alpha_vst | ok that didnt work :( |
| 20:11.28 | Alpha_vst | oh its still using my old file wtf |
| 20:13.24 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 20:13.26 | Alpha_vst | lame |
| 20:14.37 | Alpha_vst | shoulda worked :P |
| 20:15.10 | casperb | you need to repaint tho |
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| 20:15.26 | onetwo | nice post Sixen |
| 20:15.30 | onetwo | you got blues going |
| 20:15.36 | onetwo | im glad you wrote that... didn't know you shared that view too |
| 20:16.52 | heysparky | howdy onetwo |
| 20:17.00 | onetwo | hi |
| 20:17.01 | random_ | hi, anyone know what's up with default cliff height changing? |
| 20:17.06 | Triceron | what'd sixen write? |
| 20:17.08 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25482058159&sid=3000 |
| 20:17.12 | onetwo | 3 blue responses |
| 20:17.14 | onetwo | i agree with sixen |
| 20:17.38 | Alpha_vst | SO |
| 20:17.42 | Alpha_vst | aprently |
| 20:18.02 | Alpha_vst | textures are not set from 0,0 |
| 20:18.04 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 20:19.07 | Alpha_vst | anyways fuck with this later afk |
| 20:19.11 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:19.26 | heysparky | Visibility flag on inherited properties didn't work - sadly |
| 20:19.34 | Triceron | I kinda think that's a dangerous proposition |
| 20:19.40 | Alpha_vst | i think the origin of textues is the center of the map |
| 20:19.45 | Triceron | "How many players are going to waste their only available nickname just for the sake of impersonating someone?" |
| 20:20.14 | random_ | =( , so anyone know if ther's a way to change default cliff height from say -8 to -20 ? so that would work? |
| 20:21.55 | casperb | so we're getting a 3 digit code? o.o |
| 20:22.11 | casperb | why not just give us a SHA1 hash of our adress -.- |
| 20:22.15 | casperb | address ** |
| 20:22.42 | casperb | random_: you mean the base height? |
| 20:22.49 | random_ | yes |
| 20:22.59 | onetwo | 3 digit code |
| 20:23.01 | onetwo | randomly |
| 20:23.01 | onetwo | i guess |
| 20:23.10 | onetwo | hoenstly |
| 20:23.13 | onetwo | honestly |
| 20:23.18 | onetwo | 9/10 trolls would pick IdrA |
| 20:23.20 | onetwo | .xxx |
| 20:23.21 | onetwo | w/e |
| 20:23.45 | random_ | i went to data editor and changed heights in cliff meshes but the result was.. messed up |
| 20:23.59 | casperb | random_: don't change cliff heights, ever :P |
| 20:24.03 | onetwo | youve seen things eh? |
| 20:24.06 | onetwo | things that messed you up? |
| 20:24.10 | casperb | lol |
| 20:24.29 | casperb | anyways the base height can be changed in tools -> modify height field |
| 20:24.39 | casperb | changing actual cliff heights is not doable without doing mesh changes |
| 20:25.06 | Hati | i liked the nickname.id thingie :( |
| 20:25.38 | onetwo | he makes a good point though |
| 20:25.45 | onetwo | people would put Name.password |
| 20:25.48 | onetwo | or accidental things |
| 20:25.51 | onetwo | Name.address |
| 20:25.53 | onetwo | personal things |
| 20:25.54 | onetwo | thats not good |
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| 20:26.07 | slightlyrandom | Either your name is unique, or it isnt |
| 20:26.13 | onetwo | i mean, i dont mind unique names cause im buying this game on release day |
| 20:26.15 | onetwo | i can get w/e i want |
| 20:26.17 | slightlyrandom | Either you can determine who someone is from their nick, or you cant |
| 20:26.19 | onetwo | 3 years later id be annoyed |
| 20:26.20 | depthsofchaos | if someone does it they deserver to be baused :p |
| 20:26.22 | slightlyrandom | There is no weasling about the issue |
| 20:26.33 | onetwo | and people on TL wanted the 3 digits to be hidden |
| 20:26.35 | onetwo | i think thats stupid |
| 20:26.36 | random_ | casperb: there is no "modify height field" in tools panel =( |
| 20:26.37 | onetwo | i want to /query someone |
| 20:26.38 | onetwo | right away |
| 20:26.42 | onetwo | i dont like not knowing the full name |
| 20:26.53 | casperb | random_: data sorry |
| 20:26.58 | casperb | random_: as in menu -> data -> ... |
| 20:27.04 | casperb | not the data module |
| 20:27.06 | depthsofchaos | well you could just spam popular players |
| 20:27.26 | Hati | they can report you |
| 20:27.28 | Hati | and ignore you |
| 20:27.35 | Sixen | hehe |
| 20:27.42 | depthsofchaos | for hundreds of people during a tournament?:o |
| 20:27.45 | Sixen | Seems like the only solution would be to do Unique.Common |
| 20:28.00 | slightlyrandom | Make DND turn away /msg |
| 20:28.05 | Hati | if someone would disturb me during a tournament he would have to run |
| 20:28.25 | onetwo | well depthsofchaos |
| 20:28.27 | onetwo | you could do that anyway |
| 20:28.28 | onetwo | in war3 |
| 20:28.30 | onetwo | w/e |
| 20:28.39 | casperb | Well, bnet 2.1 is going to feature facebook friend status updates ingame! :p |
| 20:28.42 | Hati | and i think |
| 20:28.42 | depthsofchaos | never played it :p |
| 20:28.44 | slightlyrandom | This system is going to have millions of users |
| 20:28.50 | casperb | Big fullscreen dialog |
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| 20:28.58 | slightlyrandom | You can't make it solely based off of what 200 users will want |
| 20:28.58 | casperb | Every time someone posts a fb update ^^ |
| 20:29.03 | Hati | the DND/Invisible mode will follow anyway |
| 20:29.08 | depthsofchaos | that would be awesome |
| 20:29.24 | depthsofchaos | and you get achievements for the number of friends you added |
| 20:29.27 | casperb | Ofc it has to be a modal dialog aswell |
| 20:29.43 | depthsofchaos | yeah but how do you contact others in a tournament |
| 20:29.43 | random_ | casperb: Thanks, I've found it, but i'm curious, is there no way to make cliffs taller? |
| 20:29.46 | depthsofchaos | with invisible on |
| 20:29.58 | slightlyrandom | You can't Bnet doesnt feature chat |
| 20:30.02 | slightlyrandom | Call them |
| 20:30.09 | slightlyrandom | Geez, you have a phone, right? |
| 20:30.13 | depthsofchaos | or do a tweet |
| 20:30.15 | casperb | random_: depends on how you mean, you can paint height, but the meshes are static |
| 20:30.27 | casperb | random_: so you'd have to model higher cliffs :P |
| 20:30.53 | onetwo | txt them like gmail makes you do |
| 20:30.56 | onetwo | for making new gmail accounts |
| 20:30.56 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:31.11 | random_ | casperb: Allright, i guess i'll stick with default not-so-tall cliffs, thanks. |
| 20:31.44 | slightlyrandom | They removed that onetwo :( |
| 20:31.53 | Hati | yesterday it was active :x |
| 20:31.56 | onetwo | i had to use it last week |
| 20:32.04 | slightlyrandom | Well, I didnt last week |
| 20:32.04 | onetwo | and it said: "Your number is maxed out fora ccounts" |
| 20:32.10 | onetwo | great ill just use another number |
| 20:32.18 | onetwo | theyved stumped me |
| 20:32.19 | onetwo | royally |
| 20:32.20 | onetwo | :O |
| 20:32.43 | slightlyrandom | Wait what? Text messages as in cellphone jiggamarole? |
| 20:34.56 | Hati | just trash in tv ... |
| 20:34.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen1 (~Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:35.05 | Sixen1 | hey |
| 20:35.09 | Sixen1 | We're in the Starcraft Facebook |
| 20:35.31 | redmarine | How is the propaganda campaign going? |
| 20:35.40 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 20:35.44 | onetwo | ? |
| 20:35.51 | Sixen | http://www.facebook.com/StarCraft |
| 20:35.52 | nicoli_s | little late sixen :P |
| 20:35.54 | Hati | http://www.facebook.com/StarCraft#!/StarCraft?v=wall |
| 20:35.54 | Sixen | :( |
| 20:36.00 | Clord | I kinda desired to make more types of cards than just unit cards..... I have for example unit what can't attack but travel like other units and steal every second from enemy ;) |
| 20:36.17 | Clord | then there is nuclear strike what wipes entire field |
| 20:36.18 | Clord | lol |
| 20:36.26 | heysparky | Aha, I didn't implement the Event correctly that destroyed the Omnilight on CargoLoad... that works |
| 20:36.29 | heysparky | fyi |
| 20:36.50 | Clord | resource bundle cards =) |
| 20:36.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (~daviddavi@cpe-76-93-135-168.san.res.rr.com) |
| 20:37.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Raharu (~chatzilla@p4FDE799D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:37.16 | nicoli_s | lol i love the guy trying to push staredit.net in the comments there |
| 20:37.34 | Sixen | pfft |
| 20:37.59 | Fisker | btw Sixen |
| 20:38.06 | Fisker | I WILL DESTROY SC2MAPSTER |
| 20:38.10 | Fisker | Blizzard endorsement or not! |
| 20:38.11 | Sixen | :X |
| 20:38.19 | onetwo | cool Sixen! |
| 20:38.28 | Sixen | =) |
| 20:38.40 | Fisker | read teh news about Blizzard unfucking battle.net? |
| 20:38.52 | onetwo | which news? |
| 20:38.53 | redmarine | They never were fucked |
| 20:39.01 | redmarine | Blizzard confirmed those months ago |
| 20:39.10 | onetwo | but it wasnt very solidly confirmed |
| 20:39.11 | redmarine | However some stupid employee said otherwise |
| 20:39.12 | onetwo | back then everything was hazy |
| 20:39.24 | onetwo | hopefully the big address |
| 20:39.25 | redmarine | The only sites worthy of promotion is SC2Mapsters and Hiveworkshop |
| 20:39.25 | onetwo | will be good |
| 20:39.37 | redmarine | The biggest communities :P |
| 20:39.58 | slightlyrandom | Fisker, linky McLink ? |
| 20:40.08 | Clord | well sc2mapster is just part of that bigger curse community.. d'oh |
| 20:40.10 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:40.27 | Jum-Jum | so uh |
| 20:40.33 | Jum-Jum | Does anyone know any good looking jungle maps? |
| 20:40.42 | nicoli_s | pretty much agreed redmarine, there are a few others out there producing stuff, but not at the volume like mapster |
| 20:40.43 | Clord | same with hiveworkshop.. that site was already popular enough |
| 20:40.44 | Hati | curseforge |
| 20:41.08 | Jum-Jum | I think I nailed the desert one and city is ok-ish |
| 20:41.15 | onetwo | Jayz featuring Sixen - Run this Town |
| 20:41.21 | Jum-Jum | so I want to move on to jungle maps and then the other alienating planets |
| 20:41.21 | onetwo | yay for rehashing my jokes |
| 20:41.22 | redmarine | Hiveworkshop will become the biggest mapping community |
| 20:41.28 | slightlyrandom | How about Lost Temple Jum-Jum ? |
| 20:41.31 | Sixen | I'm definitely not Rianna |
| 20:41.33 | redmarine | However, SC2Mapster will become the most tech savvy one |
| 20:41.42 | redmarine | with most talent I guess |
| 20:41.53 | Jum-Jum | slightlyrandom: thats the only one I know about :| |
| 20:41.55 | nicoli_s | i disagree, i think mapster will be all 3 of those :P |
| 20:41.59 | Hati | Deny is a form of approval. |
| 20:42.04 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcwd_Nz6Zog this is how I imagine Sixen |
| 20:42.07 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 20:42.10 | redmarine | Time will tell :P |
| 20:42.16 | slightlyrandom | How does Steppes of War look ? |
| 20:42.20 | Hati | <3 germany |
| 20:42.21 | Hati | "This video is not available in your country. " |
| 20:42.28 | Sixen | On the contrary, OneTwo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzZFE-9gb7Q |
| 20:42.39 | onetwo | LOL |
| 20:42.51 | redmarine | That song sucks |
| 20:42.59 | slightlyrandom | How does a shitty softporn production like that get 22million views ? |
| 20:43.02 | slightlyrandom | This world is fucked |
| 20:43.03 | nicoli_s | redmarine: its all about who started first honestly, and we were lukcy enough to get most of the people doing maps before GE, which seeded our community with talented people |
| 20:43.15 | Bifuu | expected Sixen to post Arab Money |
| 20:43.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (~daviddavi@cpe-76-93-135-168.san.res.rr.com) |
| 20:43.29 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 20:43.34 | Clord | hi |
| 20:43.35 | Hati | hey guy |
| 20:43.36 | RedWraith | I'm trying to think of a blocking prevention algorithm. |
| 20:43.38 | slightlyrandom | Hi girl |
| 20:43.38 | Sixen | Oh shit. |
| 20:43.40 | Sixen | Good call bif |
| 20:43.45 | Clord | 200X300 cards rock.. dialog ftw ^^ |
| 20:43.52 | onetwo | Hati |
| 20:43.53 | onetwo | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xblw1k_rihanna-hard_music |
| 20:43.56 | onetwo | does that work |
| 20:43.57 | onetwo | hahah |
| 20:44.00 | slightlyrandom | RedWraith: in what context ? |
| 20:44.06 | RedWraith | However, I'm having trouble trying to do it without employing one of these methods: |
| 20:44.17 | RedWraith | either walking along the walls to see if I can get from one end to the other |
| 20:44.24 | RedWraith | or sending a "unit" through the maze |
| 20:44.25 | RedWraith | to check |
| 20:44.28 | RedWraith | if it works |
| 20:44.36 | RedWraith | since both of those break down |
| 20:44.43 | RedWraith | when diagonal semi-walls are in play |
| 20:44.44 | Jum-Jum | slightlyrandom: How would I go around in opening lost temple or steppes of war then? |
| 20:44.47 | Hati | "Inhalt nicht verfügbar. |
| 20:44.47 | Hati | Es tut uns leid, aber der Inhalt ist für dein Land nicht verfügbar." |
| 20:44.47 | Jum-Jum | since they are .s2ma |
| 20:44.47 | RedWraith | in a tower defense game |
| 20:44.49 | Clord | you can use custom value stuff..... pick every tower in range of unit.. add custom value for towers over time.. if units waste too long very near some tower... kaboom! |
| 20:44.51 | Hati | So no. |
| 20:44.58 | onetwo | wtf hati |
| 20:44.58 | onetwo | haha |
| 20:45.07 | onetwo | well canada lets us view it |
| 20:45.07 | RedWraith | That's lame, Clord. |
| 20:45.09 | onetwo | i gues only NA |
| 20:45.09 | redmarine | Is it just me or is working on a gigantic system that requires lots of cooperation between multiple triggers daunting task? It's well able to do it though... |
| 20:45.12 | Hati | SMG, WMG hates germany. |
| 20:45.16 | RedWraith | I want to make it so the tower explodes when you build it. |
| 20:45.16 | onetwo | oh |
| 20:45.19 | Hati | UMG |
| 20:45.20 | Hati | too |
| 20:45.21 | slightlyrandom | http://sc2.nibbits.com/search/?q=steppes+of+war&w=maps |
| 20:45.23 | onetwo | is it the hasslehoff thing? |
| 20:45.29 | RedWraith | redmarine, are you a programmer |
| 20:45.30 | RedWraith | ? |
| 20:45.35 | Hati | Don't hassle the hoff. |
| 20:45.38 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 20:45.39 | Sixen | lol hati |
| 20:45.39 | Clord | RedWraith.. I call that solution... hardly anything lame in it |
| 20:45.43 | redmarine | RedWraith, not really |
| 20:45.47 | Clord | it is not like your computer will kneel with that |
| 20:45.56 | RedWraith | Clord, anything that doesn't give me instant gratification is not acceptable. |
| 20:45.57 | redmarine | RedWraith, however, that's my only field |
| 20:46.04 | Jum-Jum | thanks slightlyrandom |
| 20:46.12 | Clord | player knows what happens if he blocks |
| 20:46.15 | onetwo | HAHA sixen i just looked up Arab Money |
| 20:46.18 | slightlyrandom | RedWraith: My fix was to just have the units kill buildings until the way is clear :P |
| 20:46.18 | onetwo | shitty greenscreening at start |
| 20:46.19 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y |
| 20:46.26 | Sixen | Amazing song, onetwo |
| 20:46.27 | Clord | and if player blocks knowing it.. he loses |
| 20:46.29 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:46.30 | onetwo | hahah |
| 20:46.32 | RedWraith | Clord, the point of this is to show that other systems are shit and shouldn't be used anymore. |
| 20:46.35 | RedWraith | I hate periodic systems. |
| 20:46.39 | RedWraith | I avoid them like the plague. |
| 20:46.43 | Sixen | you need the remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZn0Eqs3A-o |
| 20:46.45 | onetwo | i like when artists combine middle eastern voice |
| 20:46.46 | Sixen | My fave song. |
| 20:46.47 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMSG5EbG7Ao |
| 20:46.50 | RedWraith | I use one for my fires combination, but that's it really. |
| 20:46.50 | onetwo | s |
| 20:46.52 | Clord | aka it is your weakness as mapper? |
| 20:46.57 | RedWraith | Also players leaving because I'm forced to. |
| 20:47.01 | Sixen | T Pain, Akon, Lil Wayne, and a bunch of others |
| 20:47.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster ctccromer (446aa0b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.106.160.184) |
| 20:47.06 | Bifuu | i cant watch youtube on this comp =( |
| 20:47.11 | RedWraith | No, it's everyone else's for being willing to settle when there's no reason to. |
| 20:47.13 | Sixen | Bif, you know what it is :) |
| 20:47.18 | onetwo | hey did I see Belly in that video |
| 20:47.21 | onetwo | our only canadian rapper |
| 20:47.22 | Bifuu | i know which is why i want to listen! |
| 20:47.23 | RedWraith | I want my maps to look polished. |
| 20:47.30 | onetwo | cause canadian's lives are too easy... we aren't allowed to rap |
| 20:47.35 | onetwo | our "streets" are too nice |
| 20:47.42 | Clord | well.... it is not like people will dislike see cool nuke blowing big hole to maze |
| 20:47.45 | ctccromer | bah i dislike rap |
| 20:48.02 | Sixen | :( |
| 20:48.05 | RedWraith | Clord, I want instant gratification without some bullshit unit trying to break through. :P |
| 20:48.08 | RedWraith | I need a cooler method. |
| 20:48.13 | ctccromer | sorry, im a rock guy xD |
| 20:48.18 | Clord | well.... super penalty |
| 20:48.20 | Clord | entire maze dissappears |
| 20:48.33 | Clord | or your instant style |
| 20:48.35 | Clord | instant lose |
| 20:48.36 | Clord | XD |
| 20:48.48 | redmarine | nicoli_s, true, true. Our Diablo 3 WarCraft map reached insane level of popularity pretty much because it was first. Even though there were a lot better ones that were published months after it. |
| 20:49.00 | slightlyrandom | The hard part is checking whether the way is blocked or not |
| 20:49.03 | redmarine | to follow* |
| 20:49.27 | slightlyrandom | Without doing an invisible unit with speed 100 |
| 20:49.33 | ctccromer | anyone know how to make an INDOOR map? saw an awesome video today made by blizzard. didnt know that was possible |
| 20:49.36 | Clord | there could be invisible marks periodically placed like mine layer |
| 20:49.42 | onetwo | the funniest thing to me is that rappers have to do these music videos... so awkward filming it with a song playing quitely in the back |
| 20:49.45 | Clord | and if unit speed indicates it would be way further |
| 20:49.48 | onetwo | meanwhile theyre doing crazy "tough poses" |
| 20:49.52 | onetwo | i would just laugh the whole time |
| 20:49.53 | Clord | when two "mines" are checked |
| 20:49.54 | onetwo | if i was there |
| 20:50.05 | ctccromer | i wouldnt be there :P |
| 20:50.05 | onetwo | id probably get shot |
| 20:50.06 | onetwo | i guess |
| 20:50.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster fatal5101 (~fatal510@c-98-238-144-217.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:50.17 | ctccromer | <- listening to Avenged Sevenfold |
| 20:50.28 | slightlyrandom | RAP: Retards Attempting Poetry |
| 20:50.29 | fatal5101 | oh no |
| 20:50.33 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/somnium/. Somnium. ctccromer (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 20:50.37 | Bifuu | a7x is good |
| 20:50.40 | Clord | it is not like rappers always do their stuff because they think rap is good music |
| 20:50.45 | ctccromer | appreciated, sixen ^^ |
| 20:50.46 | Clord | it is because it pays their bills |
| 20:50.47 | Clord | XD |
| 20:50.48 | onetwo | yeah |
| 20:50.57 | onetwo | they come up with interesting beats too |
| 20:51.00 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/chojin/. Cho'Jin. memnus (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 20:51.01 | onetwo | i dont really care about the words |
| 20:51.02 | ctccromer | aye |
| 20:51.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182) |
| 20:51.14 | ctccromer | you know who else come up with awesome beat? |
| 20:51.17 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/release-swarm-spell-contest/. Release the Swarm Spell Contest. Xeridanus (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 20:51.17 | ctccromer | indie and techno people |
| 20:51.20 | onetwo | yeah |
| 20:51.22 | onetwo | that is true |
| 20:51.25 | Sixen | Sorry it took so long, ctccromer. |
| 20:51.26 | Clord | thing like rapper is overall quite low talent way to call iself musician |
| 20:51.27 | Sixen | Usually faster. |
| 20:51.27 | ctccromer | hell, even whatshis name from Owl City does kickass beats |
| 20:51.29 | Clord | or whatever |
| 20:51.39 | heysparky | Clord, that's total BS |
| 20:51.46 | slightlyrandom | Naw |
| 20:51.52 | heysparky | being good at any form of music takes a lot of work |
| 20:51.52 | Clord | yeah well.... I was not asking opinions either way |
| 20:51.54 | ctccromer | no worries sixen, the only times i'm impatient for are for question-answering and thats my fault not yalls :P |
| 20:51.57 | onetwo | but i find techno is like a HUGE buildup ... and not enough voice for me... but i think dance music (like david guetta said) is basically the next "thing" |
| 20:51.57 | Clord | :) |
| 20:51.58 | nicoli_s | hahah owl city |
| 20:52.00 | Sixen | :) |
| 20:52.00 | slightlyrandom | Most of popular "musicians" aren't talented in the least |
| 20:52.01 | Clord | yeah but rapping is meh |
| 20:52.01 | nicoli_s | what a piece of shit |
| 20:52.12 | ctccromer | <- drummer |
| 20:52.17 | heysparky | right-o slightlyrandom |
| 20:52.20 | fatal5101 | Damn. Clord was like stfu bitch |
| 20:52.24 | nicoli_s | owl city is like some shitty pop star was like "wow these techno indie people make a bunch of money" and so they put out that crap |
| 20:52.28 | depthsofchaos | <-gangsta rapper nigga |
| 20:52.36 | onetwo | i knew it |
| 20:52.37 | ctccromer | nicoli |
| 20:52.40 | ctccromer | youre so freaking wrong |
| 20:52.44 | ctccromer | he was an insomniac |
| 20:52.54 | nicoli_s | so, the music is still terribly terrible |
| 20:52.59 | ctccromer | didnt have anything to do, but had a keyboard in his basement |
| 20:53.08 | ctccromer | *shrug* i like it, but it isnt near my favorite |
| 20:53.11 | nicoli_s | lemme find you a critique of it |
| 20:53.19 | ctccromer | nah its okay |
| 20:53.21 | fatal5101 | happy hardcore :) |
| 20:53.22 | Bifuu | lolololololololol |
| 20:53.28 | ctccromer | you hate owl city, i hate rap and country :P |
| 20:53.28 | Bifuu | youcant critique music |
| 20:53.33 | onetwo | LOL all these people come from facebook/starcraft and they come here and see: "[13:52] <depthsofchaos> <-gangsta rapper nigga"... wtf is this the mapping IRC? |
| 20:53.34 | nicoli_s | dude theres good rap |
| 20:53.45 | nicoli_s | outkast is so much better than most music out there these days |
| 20:53.55 | ctccromer | ive yet to hear any i like |
| 20:54.05 | nicoli_s | and there is a small portion of country ive heard thats good |
| 20:54.07 | depthsofchaos | onetwo youre obviously racist xD |
| 20:54.10 | nicoli_s | but its more alt country |
| 20:54.13 | slightlyrandom | This is true for every genre |
| 20:54.13 | ctccromer | and more than half the beats are... well damn i cant make noise on here lol |
| 20:54.28 | slightlyrandom | There's the talented guys, and there's the droll shit |
| 20:54.34 | fatal5101 | OneTwo is not racist. he just hates everyone |
| 20:54.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Kamakaze (~spam@cm-84.215.166.113.getinternet.no) |
| 20:54.39 | ctccromer | but my 2 favorite bands are Avenged sevenfold (by far... Rip rev) and An Endless Sporadic |
| 20:54.54 | nicoli_s | well that explains it :P |
| 20:54.59 | ctccromer | haha |
| 20:55.04 | nicoli_s | avenged sevenfold is also some of the worst music ive ever heard |
| 20:55.11 | ctccromer | .. |
| 20:55.11 | onetwo | time for me to link this classic |
| 20:55.13 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvVzaQ6i8A#t=0m18s |
| 20:55.21 | Bifuu | i like avenged's last album |
| 20:55.25 | nicoli_s | if you want some real good metal music, check out the mars volta |
| 20:55.27 | Hati | onetwo: That's rapid-prototyping. |
| 20:55.35 | ctccromer | i like all of em except the first (sorry but screamo isnt my thing..) |
| 20:55.38 | Hati | getting ideas for new maps :P |
| 20:55.45 | Hati | so now it has to do with mapping |
| 20:55.48 | ctccromer | the 2nd is my favorite though.. half singing, half screamin im fine with |
| 20:55.53 | Krakarn | mmmm... candy. |
| 20:55.56 | heysparky | Blood Brothers |
| 20:55.58 | ctccromer | but god |
| 20:56.05 | rrowland | What |
| 20:56.06 | ctccromer | im so pissed that the Rockstar tour isnt goin through my state |
| 20:56.14 | rrowland | Who dares blaspheme against avenged sevenfold |
| 20:56.17 | ctccromer | favorite band and the best drummer of all time together |
| 20:56.29 | ctccromer | once in a lifetime event and the nearest concert is 5 hours away |
| 20:56.42 | ctccromer | and i can't drive yet |
| 20:56.43 | Bifuu | 5 hours is nothing |
| 20:56.50 | slightlyrandom | Now that we're linking great music |
| 20:56.50 | slightlyrandom | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVadl4ocX0M&feature=channel |
| 20:56.54 | ctccromer | dad loathes the group so he wont take me |
| 20:57.02 | nicoli_s | that explains it too :) your music tastes will get better as you get older trust me |
| 20:57.07 | ctccromer | i play classical too, slightlyrandom :) |
| 20:57.11 | nicoli_s | im ashamed at the music i have listened to in the past, so will you |
| 20:57.15 | ctccromer | i'm in the state's Youth Orchestra |
| 20:57.30 | Bifuu | im not ashamed of anything ive listened to |
| 20:57.37 | rrowland | I'm going to a concert this weekend, dream theater opens for iron maiden |
| 20:57.40 | Jum-Jum | ive always listened to different music |
| 20:57.43 | slightlyrandom | ... |
| 20:57.44 | ctccromer | nor am i, though some things i used to like, i now despise (nickelback)( |
| 20:57.48 | fatal5101 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbQwQetKm2g |
| 20:57.49 | slightlyrandom | rrowland: THAT shit is AWESOME |
| 20:57.52 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_KFebLWpY0 |
| 20:57.52 | Jum-Jum | it took my friends 10 years to understand why I like the music I like |
| 20:57.54 | nicoli_s | hahah nickelback |
| 20:58.01 | rrowland | nickelback is baaaaad |
| 20:58.03 | rrowland | baaaaaaaaaaaaad |
| 20:58.03 | ctccromer | yeah |
| 20:58.07 | Jum-Jum | they listened to limp bizkit, i listened to other stuff... |
| 20:58.08 | ctccromer | but i USED to like them |
| 20:58.16 | ctccromer | which eventually led me to what i currently LOVE |
| 20:58.18 | nicoli_s | so yer getting better already :) |
| 20:58.20 | Bifuu | fuck that i still like them |
| 20:58.23 | rrowland | I used to listen to eminem and weird al yankovich |
| 20:58.25 | rrowland | True story |
| 20:58.28 | ctccromer | plus, Daniel Adair is who inspired me to be a drummer |
| 20:58.36 | Bifuu | Most people "hate" nickleback because everyone things its cool to hate them |
| 20:58.45 | nicoli_s | but im telling you, if you like fast rock music that really fucking kills check out the mars volta |
| 20:58.45 | rrowland | No he's just bad |
| 20:58.55 | ctccromer | mars volta? |
| 20:58.59 | ctccromer | aight brb (zune pass ftw) |
| 20:59.04 | nicoli_s | Bifuu:i hate them cuz its commercial new rock bullshit |
| 20:59.06 | rrowland | Whoever linked that classical |
| 20:59.09 | rrowland | It's pretty good |
| 20:59.17 | nicoli_s | ctccromer:check out deloused in the comatorium, their best cd |
| 20:59.19 | Jum-Jum | Mars Volta is great |
| 20:59.19 | depthsofchaos | classic is the best :o |
| 20:59.28 | fatal5101 | bumble bee!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:59.32 | rrowland | I listen to classical sometimes when I'm programming |
| 20:59.33 | nicoli_s | and they are actual musicians, where they compose their songs and such |
| 20:59.37 | slightlyrandom | Well, for every genre there is some guys that innovate, go deep, explore shit and break new ground |
| 20:59.47 | ctccromer | oh and the nightmare before christmas soundtrack is also cool (and Wicked soundtrack) |
| 20:59.49 | slightlyrandom | And then there are the guys who bang something out for a few quick bucks |
| 20:59.58 | rrowland | like nickelback? |
| 20:59.59 | depthsofchaos | but i like modern mied with classic too : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU3__lvjD-k |
| 21:00.02 | fatal5101 | lol all this debate about music and what is best is stupid and pointles |
| 21:00.05 | fatal5101 | pointless* |
| 21:00.11 | nicoli_s | of course it is fatal5101 |
| 21:00.18 | rrowland | It's not debate |
| 21:00.23 | rrowland | It's just discussion of opinions |
| 21:00.25 | nicoli_s | but as an admin i feel its my right to impose my musical tastes on you lowbies |
| 21:00.30 | Demonette | Does somebody know what i could have done wrong if my unit doesn't transform visually into the other units i want it to morph... but all it's stats do? |
| 21:00.32 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 21:00.34 | fatal5101 | you can be a hipster all you want and say i like so and so because they make their own shit |
| 21:00.49 | Jum-Jum | I dont really know a lot of other people that enjoy game music as much as I do |
| 21:00.51 | slightlyrandom | Demonette: explore Actors and Events in the dataeditor :P |
| 21:00.53 | ctccromer | the mars volta.. is this english? lol |
| 21:00.57 | nicoli_s | some of it |
| 21:01.01 | nicoli_s | some of it is spanish |
| 21:01.05 | slightlyrandom | Jum-Jum: Heard of Machinae Supremacy ? |
| 21:01.06 | Jum-Jum | Theres this one song in Gears of War 2 I really liked, never played the game tho. only the first one |
| 21:01.06 | ctccromer | deloused int he comatorium |
| 21:01.09 | nicoli_s | some of it is completely unintelligble :P |
| 21:01.53 | Jum-Jum | slightlyrandom: Yep! |
| 21:01.53 | Sixen | Nic, google doc or forum? |
| 21:01.53 | nicoli_s | and be prepared for 20+ minute songs |
| 21:01.53 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-eP9tNo9Hw |
| 21:01.53 | slightlyrandom | I love it for the throwbacks to the olden days |
| 21:01.53 | ctccromer | inertiatic esp |
| 21:01.53 | Hati | unofficial german anthem |
| 21:01.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:01.54 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4oA3nuxs7E If you want to hear some orgasmic music |
| 21:01.54 | Jum-Jum | slightlyrandom: I use to make movies with a bunch of friends, they asked us to make their musicvideo :D it never happened tho, i really regret that |
| 21:01.54 | slightlyrandom | hah, pity |
| 21:01.54 | rrowland | They're the guys I'm seeing open on saturday |
| 21:02.00 | slightlyrandom | Dream Theater is pretty bloody awesome |
| 21:02.04 | Jum-Jum | Hybrid \o/ |
| 21:02.04 | ctccromer | yup |
| 21:02.06 | nicoli_s | ive heard good things bout em |
| 21:02.11 | ctccromer | Mike Portnoy is the best drummer of all time |
| 21:02.11 | onetwo | Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York |
| 21:02.17 | slightlyrandom | They were around 20 years ahead of the rest of the world |
| 21:02.18 | ctccromer | (and currently playing with Avenged Sevenfold) |
| 21:02.31 | nicoli_s | onetwo:i disagree with that definition |
| 21:02.36 | onetwo | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hipster |
| 21:02.37 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 21:02.42 | nicoli_s | when most people say hipster they mean it derogatorily(sp?) |
| 21:02.44 | onetwo | i like how they have locations |
| 21:02.45 | ctccromer | but yeah |
| 21:02.53 | rrowland | Maybe you're thinking of hippies |
| 21:02.55 | ctccromer | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3751-indoor-map/ |
| 21:02.59 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:03.00 | onetwo | me? or urbandictionary? |
| 21:03.06 | nicoli_s | that one you pasted |
| 21:03.12 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:03.34 | nicoli_s | actually nm i meant not what you posted but what most people mean when they say hipsters |
| 21:03.35 | depthsofchaos | you can only make indoor with doodads :o |
| 21:03.46 | ctccromer | never messed with doodads |
| 21:03.48 | nicoli_s | pretentious new hippies who like shit cuz its weird and new |
| 21:03.48 | rrowland | freedom calls my name, serenity keeps me sane |
| 21:04.05 | ctccromer | arent those the inanimate things like... the wierd lookin animals that did absolutely nothing in sc1? |
| 21:04.16 | depthsofchaos | doodads = models basicaly |
| 21:04.39 | depthsofchaos | you cant build it like cliffs right now :/ |
| 21:04.46 | Jum-Jum | What about Massive Attack? |
| 21:04.56 | ctccromer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNPrnY4K_4&feature=player_embedded# |
| 21:04.58 | ctccromer | 2:40 |
| 21:04.59 | Jum-Jum | do they have the nicoli_s of approval? |
| 21:05.07 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 21:05.23 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:05.28 | Sixen | nicoli_s is an object now. |
| 21:05.28 | rrowland | tool and a perfect circle? |
| 21:05.37 | nicoli_s | yep, seen tool live before |
| 21:05.39 | nicoli_s | very epic |
| 21:05.42 | depthsofchaos | if you check the roof, there isnt one :p |
| 21:05.43 | nicoli_s | fucking crazy light show |
| 21:05.45 | Jum-Jum | http://i.imgur.com/K4CBd.jpg |
| 21:05.46 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 21:05.47 | depthsofchaos | so they used models too |
| 21:05.56 | ctccromer | i dont care about a roof |
| 21:06.00 | nicoli_s | tool is an example of metaly music done good |
| 21:06.03 | ctccromer | the demo level im making is 100% indoors |
| 21:06.06 | rrowland | Tool / A perfect circle / dream theater are all in the same league of awesome |
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| 21:06.28 | ctccromer | so just look at doodads? |
| 21:06.33 | depthsofchaos | well they just used metalic looking cliffs |
| 21:06.41 | depthsofchaos | and models ye |
| 21:06.46 | ctccromer | k |
| 21:06.49 | onetwo | nicoli_s: the best nicoli since nicoli_r |
| 21:06.53 | ctccromer | and then, for walls eperating rooms in the house |
| 21:06.58 | ctccromer | use cliffs? |
| 21:06.59 | nicoli_s | lol i like that onetwo |
| 21:07.00 | Sixen | Lmao |
| 21:07.06 | depthsofchaos | ye |
| 21:07.09 | ctccromer | k, tyvm |
| 21:07.11 | ctccromer | imma go try that |
| 21:07.14 | ctccromer | nice talkin to yall |
| 21:07.17 | onetwo | bye |
| 21:07.25 | onetwo | thank god hes gone |
| 21:07.25 | heysparky | Glenn Kotche is hte best drummer :D |
| 21:07.28 | onetwo | did anyone else smell that |
| 21:07.29 | heysparky | Or Steve Gadd |
| 21:07.39 | nicoli_s | someone else tell me what music you listen to so i can tell you its terrible |
| 21:08.08 | nicoli_s | or maybe just maybe ill tell you its good :) |
| 21:08.09 | rrowland | lol Youtube thinks dream theater is disco music |
| 21:08.29 | onetwo | nicoli what would you say if i told you i have private footage from your alleged wedding |
| 21:08.50 | nicoli_s | huh |
| 21:08.53 | nicoli_s | im not married |
| 21:08.56 | Jum-Jum | nicoli_s: Röyksopp. |
| 21:09.01 | onetwo | well we'll see |
| 21:09.03 | onetwo | heres the proof |
| 21:09.04 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSvdvrmaMY0 |
| 21:09.06 | nicoli_s | in fact i just got in a huge arguement with my gf last night about not being married |
| 21:09.11 | onetwo | good editing btw |
| 21:09.14 | onetwo | mr nicoli_s |
| 21:09.15 | nicoli_s | and yeah i like royksopp |
| 21:09.16 | onetwo | if that is your real name |
| 21:09.43 | nicoli_s | its not :P\ |
| 21:09.43 | nicoli_s | nicoli is the german version of my real name |
| 21:09.43 | onetwo | ":P\" |
| 21:09.43 | onetwo | thats hidden code |
| 21:09.44 | onetwo | to mean Peet |
| 21:09.44 | nicoli_s | damn keyboard |
| 21:09.54 | nicoli_s | i got a g13 keyboard and the enter button is too damn small |
| 21:10.05 | Krakarn | i listened to the doors when i was little, but know i listen to the doors |
| 21:10.08 | rrowland | korn, cradle of filth, static x, dragonforce 8) |
| 21:10.24 | nicoli_s | yech to like all of those rrowland, though static x is the best of those |
| 21:10.30 | Jum-Jum | I dont like any of those |
| 21:10.31 | nicoli_s | but im not a huge industrial fan |
| 21:10.39 | depthsofchaos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXeBe2XQDZg nicoli try this and tell its bad :o |
| 21:10.40 | rrowland | Dragonforce has great guitar |
| 21:10.55 | onetwo | *tear* |
| 21:10.58 | nicoli_s | haha gattaca, i loved that movie |
| 21:11.12 | depthsofchaos | ye its a great one |
| 21:11.27 | nicoli_s | man i cant wait to reveal my secret sc2 website :) |
| 21:11.46 | Jum-Jum | Ever heard of The Little People? |
| 21:11.58 | Jum-Jum | or perhaps The Avalanches |
| 21:11.58 | nicoli_s | nope |
| 21:12.24 | Jum-Jum | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5I4cTkL-E |
| 21:12.45 | Jum-Jum | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8BWBn26bX0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfAuFAgHpzc |
| 21:12.48 | Jum-Jum | \o/ |
| 21:12.52 | Jum-Jum | What about Ratatat? |
| 21:12.58 | nicoli_s | they are sweet |
| 21:13.14 | nicoli_s | they have a song with that rapper kid cudi and mgmt that while i dont like the rapper i love the song |
| 21:13.28 | Jum-Jum | mgmt has some sweet songs |
| 21:13.42 | nicoli_s | yeah ive seen them at bonnaroo a few times |
| 21:13.52 | nicoli_s | the first time real good, second time was shitty so i saw NiN instead |
| 21:14.12 | slightlyrandom | NIN is pretty damned awesome |
| 21:14.14 | rrowland | Never been a big nin fan |
| 21:14.24 | Jum-Jum | seen them live? unfair! |
| 21:14.25 | nicoli_s | yeah, its pretty meh to me, but was like their last tour |
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| 21:14.28 | slightlyrandom | Mostly because he gets the internet |
| 21:14.33 | onetwo | which is better: NiN or HoN |
| 21:14.35 | onetwo | one is a game |
| 21:14.36 | Jum-Jum | I heard Ratatat arent very good live, so avoid them |
| 21:14.36 | onetwo | one is a band |
| 21:14.41 | rrowland | I prefer manson |
| 21:14.47 | Jum-Jum | NiN? |
| 21:14.52 | nicoli_s | if you like ratatat, check out tortoise |
| 21:14.57 | nicoli_s | tortoise is fucking sweet |
| 21:15.00 | rrowland | killswitch engage? |
| 21:15.17 | nicoli_s | havent listened to them, name sounds too industrial :P |
| 21:15.26 | Jum-Jum | You never heard those songs from The Avalanches nicoli_s? |
| 21:15.27 | rrowland | lol |
| 21:15.37 | Jum-Jum | since i left you and frontier |
| 21:15.40 | nicoli_s | not that ui know of |
| 21:16.05 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zb1Wghne1w&feature=channel killswitch engage |
| 21:16.18 | nicoli_s | trying out the avalanches now |
| 21:16.26 | rrowland | The singer is black so if you don't like it you're a racist |
| 21:16.33 | Jum-Jum | interesting, RJD2 and Tortoise on same album on Spotify |
| 21:16.38 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4 this is my favourite song of all time |
| 21:16.38 | nicoli_s | my gf is black so im def not racist :P |
| 21:16.54 | nicoli_s | Jum-Jum:i like it, kinda ambient disco :P avalanches i mean |
| 21:16.54 | rrowland | lol |
| 21:17.06 | Jum-Jum | hey you know what they say nicoli_s |
| 21:17.10 | Jum-Jum | once you go black you never go back |
| 21:17.19 | nicoli_s | tis true |
| 21:17.23 | rrowland | I'm not sure it works that way |
| 21:17.24 | Jum-Jum | haha |
| 21:17.31 | Clord | black insurance.... when you have wife like that you can talk more crap without everyone thinking you are racist |
| 21:17.34 | Clord | nice.... |
| 21:17.36 | nicoli_s | my first 2 gfs were white, my next 2 black |
| 21:17.40 | onetwo | hAHAhAHAHAH |
| 21:17.43 | onetwo | its both ways |
| 21:17.46 | onetwo | for black and never going back |
| 21:17.47 | nicoli_s | and im def not going back :) |
| 21:17.49 | onetwo | thats hilarious |
| 21:17.55 | Jum-Jum | haha |
| 21:18.08 | Clord | but what about yellow people? |
| 21:18.09 | Clord | XD |
| 21:18.21 | nicoli_s | once you go there you know you have a fetish :P |
| 21:18.26 | rrowland | Once you go yellow... hello |
| 21:18.46 | rrowland | There's no good rhyme for yellow. |
| 21:18.52 | Jum-Jum | hahahahah rrowland |
| 21:18.57 | onetwo | say hello with george takai's voice |
| 21:18.59 | nicoli_s | once you go yellow you go fellow? |
| 21:19.00 | Jum-Jum | "once you go yellow... hello" |
| 21:19.10 | nicoli_s | doesnt really make sense but oh well :P |
| 21:19.12 | Jum-Jum | RJD2 nicoli_s? |
| 21:19.27 | Jum-Jum | you only go yellow if she has a fellow? |
| 21:19.47 | onetwo | are these tranny jokes |
| 21:19.57 | onetwo | or affair jokes |
| 21:20.11 | nicoli_s | Jum-Jum: oh yuh, they have this really awesome radiohead cover i love |
| 21:20.16 | depthsofchaos | once you go yellow its youre the one to swallow |
| 21:20.28 | onetwo | haha |
| 21:20.28 | onetwo | wtf |
| 21:20.29 | Jum-Jum | Ghostwriter! \o/ |
| 21:20.38 | depthsofchaos | -its :p |
| 21:20.39 | onetwo | right now a guy needs help with the editor |
| 21:20.41 | onetwo | comes onto our IRC |
| 21:20.46 | onetwo | expecting a nice mature editor convo |
| 21:20.47 | onetwo | and gets this |
| 21:20.52 | onetwo | [14:19] <Jum-Jum> you only go yellow if she has a fellow? [14:19] <+onetwo> are these tranny jokes [14:19] <+onetwo> or affair jokes [14:20] <@nicoli_s> Jum-Jum: oh yuh, they have this really awesome radiohead cover i love [14:20] <depthsofchaos> once you go yellow its youre the one to swallow |
| 21:21.01 | onetwo | haha |
| 21:21.07 | Jum-Jum | I bet he would just facepalm and just give up on the internet by then |
| 21:21.18 | Jum-Jum | "screw it, never gonna happen" *throws comp out of the window* |
| 21:21.19 | depthsofchaos | i dont see anyone asking for help :P |
| 21:21.27 | depthsofchaos | and i dont htink they iwll anyway after this |
| 21:21.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:21.37 | onetwo | weve scarred the channel |
| 21:21.39 | onetwo | permanently |
| 21:21.46 | Clord | that tropico 3 rebel is big joke.... has 0 rebels and talks big ^^ takes goverment over 20 militarist gun shooting maniacs like nothing to be feared.... |
| 21:21.47 | onetwo | like a ______ _______ |
| 21:21.55 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsW7ZCx-b48 a perfect circle 8) |
| 21:22.22 | Jum-Jum | http://i.imgur.com/m9rLj.gif |
| 21:22.23 | Jum-Jum | hahahaha |
| 21:22.34 | Clord | so when we talk about simillar map ideas... I have card game under work for SCII |
| 21:22.42 | Clord | surprise XD |
| 21:23.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster Arthas-zzz (~zet@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se) |
| 21:23.12 | Clord | it is designed to bumb itself with one round matches |
| 21:23.13 | Clord | lol |
| 21:23.35 | Arthas-zzz | btw |
| 21:23.38 | Arthas-zzz | just struck me |
| 21:23.51 | Arthas-zzz | did anyone check if the race dropdown could be modified ingame? |
| 21:24.01 | Arthas-zzz | for custom maps |
| 21:24.05 | onetwo | i think so |
| 21:24.11 | onetwo | maybe? |
| 21:24.15 | onetwo | i know you can add custom Game Attributes |
| 21:24.16 | onetwo | that host |
| 21:24.17 | Arthas-zzz | i know karune said that would be the case in a batch |
| 21:24.18 | onetwo | or players can set |
| 21:24.19 | nicoli_s | we could dissasenle the flash files and add it in :P |
| 21:24.27 | nicoli_s | dissasemble* |
| 21:24.33 | Arthas-zzz | nicoli_s ofc, but i thought the "right" way :p |
| 21:25.54 | Clord | it would be so nice to be able to test maps again but servers are kinda down |
| 21:25.55 | Clord | lol |
| 21:26.12 | Clord | would see for example how card map would do |
| 21:26.56 | nicoli_s | btw if anyone here does like rap and wants to hear some good underground rap, check out themselves |
| 21:26.59 | nicoli_s | so fucking good |
| 21:27.02 | onetwo | myself? |
| 21:27.07 | slightlyrandom | I cant fucking rap |
| 21:27.07 | onetwo | i knew i was good but not that good |
| 21:27.10 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:27.12 | Arthas-zzz | rap? |
| 21:27.17 | Arthas-zzz | hurrrr :p |
| 21:27.20 | depthsofchaos | wow look at this screenshot contest entry, amazing: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7590/killyourmotherwallpaper.jpg |
| 21:27.22 | depthsofchaos | xD |
| 21:27.27 | nicoli_s | yes Arthas-zzz, there is good rap |
| 21:27.47 | Jum-Jum | thats a winner |
| 21:27.49 | slightlyrandom | Idongetit |
| 21:27.57 | Arthas-zzz | i so refuse to believe that :p |
| 21:28.05 | Arthas-zzz | ima go back to my corner |
| 21:29.12 | onetwo | lets let that one win |
| 21:29.13 | onetwo | im voting for it |
| 21:29.14 | onetwo | if i can |
| 21:29.59 | redmarine | Is there a feature to disable the view of variables? |
| 21:30.22 | redmarine | I can't see any variables when I want to pick one |
| 21:30.37 | redmarine | They are hidden however selectable so I can't see what I am selecting |
| 21:31.04 | onetwo | thats odd |
| 21:31.09 | onetwo | i have that bug with requirements sometimes |
| 21:31.10 | onetwo | in data editor |
| 21:31.15 | onetwo | just have to change tabs to fix |
| 21:31.17 | onetwo | not sure how you could |
| 21:31.28 | redmarine | I see, |
| 21:31.31 | redmarine | Going to try that |
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| 21:32.15 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/desert-river/. Desert River. Oneknown (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 21:32.20 | redmarine | Nope. Doesn't fix it |
| 21:32.48 | redmarine | It makes work a lot more difficult. |
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| 21:32.53 | Krakarn | is there any place where theres some suggestions for ideas that someone wants to be made into reality but dont wanna do it themselves |
| 21:33.14 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/overgrown/. Overgrown. ohnomnomnom (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 21:34.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster ctccromer (446aa0b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.106.160.184) |
| 21:34.47 | ctccromer | how do you turn the way a doodad faces when before or after you place it? |
| 21:34.58 | slightlyrandom | Krakarn: Go shopping among the old maps from BW and WC3 |
| 21:35.04 | onetwo | after you double click it |
| 21:35.09 | onetwo | and change the rotation line |
| 21:35.10 | onetwo | thingy |
| 21:35.13 | onetwo | in the window |
| 21:35.16 | onetwo | before: i dont know |
| 21:35.18 | onetwo | maybe someone does |
| 21:35.27 | redmarine | Well, control click |
| 21:35.34 | ctccromer | how do you double click it? once you click a doodad, i have to save and exit and reopen the map for no doodad to be attatched to the mouse |
| 21:35.38 | redmarine | Ctrl + click somewhere while having your unit selected |
| 21:35.48 | ctccromer | ah ok |
| 21:35.48 | redmarine | or doodad |
| 21:36.03 | slightlyrandom | ctccromer: space will clear your mouse |
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| 21:36.14 | Krakarn | i want to do something but i dont want to do a copy of another idea |
| 21:36.20 | slightlyrandom | Dude |
| 21:36.31 | slightlyrandom | Its gonna be a copy of another idea if you get the idea from anywhere, anywhere at all |
| 21:36.42 | depthsofchaos | krakarn, make zombie master :O |
| 21:36.43 | Krakarn | not if it doesnt exist in a sc2 map |
| 21:36.43 | redmarine | Or if more specific, press enter while having your doodad selected. There you can specify more specific rotation. |
| 21:36.45 | slightlyrandom | Even if its from your own head, its likely a copy of one or more ideas |
| 21:37.03 | Krakarn | lol |
| 21:37.07 | ctccromer | ctrl click doesnt do anything for left clicking |
| 21:37.07 | Krakarn | u are mistaking my meaning |
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| 21:37.15 | slightlyrandom | Likely |
| 21:37.33 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos zombie master.... |
| 21:37.40 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos that can be anything |
| 21:37.45 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 21:37.51 | depthsofchaos | look it up on youtube, its hl2 mod |
| 21:38.00 | Krakarn | yes i played it some days ago |
| 21:38.03 | Krakarn | pretty cool |
| 21:38.07 | Krakarn | hmm |
| 21:38.09 | Krakarn | :P |
| 21:38.17 | depthsofchaos | id help in making something like that |
| 21:38.29 | Krakarn | ïdeas are forming in my head, sometimes you need restrictions for the imagination to flow |
| 21:38.39 | slightlyrandom | You cant use the color green |
| 21:39.00 | ctccromer | oh wow, doodads are walkthough |
| 21:39.15 | Clord | lol... in my inspiration shortage I started to do card map |
| 21:39.17 | Clord | so yeah... |
| 21:39.18 | casperb | some are, some aren't |
| 21:39.20 | ctccromer | and looking at the back looks relllly bad |
| 21:39.32 | Clord | XD |
| 21:39.40 | ctccromer | i'm just trying to get a door that'll open and close when clicked on |
| 21:39.55 | Krakarn | slightlyrandom thats not restricting much :P:P |
| 21:39.57 | ctccromer | but i dont see any normal doors lol |
| 21:39.58 | casperb | easy, pathing blocker + cliff doodad |
| 21:40.06 | Krakarn | but thank you for trying :) |
| 21:40.07 | slightlyrandom | Alright, you cant use any colors aside from blue |
| 21:40.17 | Krakarn | slightlyrandom that's more intresteing |
| 21:40.17 | casperb | nono, blue and pink |
| 21:40.23 | Krakarn | slightlyrandom and you are very fast with answers |
| 21:40.27 | casperb | 255 blue btw |
| 21:40.28 | ctccromer | blue + black = awesome |
| 21:40.30 | slightlyrandom | I really like Grayscale and red for a color palette, though |
| 21:40.52 | Krakarn | blue and purple shades are nice, like the sky |
| 21:41.07 | Krakarn | in the evening |
| 21:41.10 | casperb | I wasn't talking shades tho, think magic purple and magic blue :P |
| 21:41.16 | casperb | ugliest colors ever :D |
| 21:41.20 | slightlyrandom | ^^ |
| 21:41.41 | Krakarn | haha. toy land |
| 21:42.01 | Krakarn | i will make a map: toy nuke land |
| 21:42.04 | slightlyrandom | How much can you modify the graphics ? |
| 21:42.12 | slightlyrandom | I'd really love to do some cell-shading style |
| 21:42.19 | slightlyrandom | Or rather, to play with it |
| 21:42.20 | redmarine | Guys, will the game lag with 4000 units? |
| 21:42.33 | redmarine | spread all around 128x128 map |
| 21:42.36 | redmarine | that is |
| 21:42.37 | nicoli_s | no but it will with 4001 |
| 21:42.42 | redmarine | lol. |
| 21:42.46 | slightlyrandom | Try it out, see what happens |
| 21:42.46 | nicoli_s | only odd numbers make lag |
| 21:42.49 | Krakarn | slightlyrandom ask blizz to enable that, different rendering techniques into their engine :) |
| 21:42.49 | nicoli_s | everyone knows that |
| 21:42.50 | Clord | engine can run it |
| 21:42.52 | casperb | better make it 40 000 just to be sure |
| 21:42.55 | redmarine | I tried 3000 on same screen one |
| 21:42.59 | redmarine | once |
| 21:43.05 | redmarine | IT was disasterous |
| 21:43.20 | casperb | if you had a powerfull gpu it might be doable on low :P |
| 21:43.24 | redmarine | either that or 30.000 units |
| 21:43.31 | casperb | i.e dual whatever the top of the line is atm |
| 21:43.35 | ctccromer | --when you have a unit or doodad selected how to you get it so that you can select other doodatunits again without having to save/reopen the map?? |
| 21:43.39 | redmarine | I'll test it out |
| 21:43.44 | slightlyrandom | ctccromer: space |
| 21:43.52 | casperb | ctccromer: esc/space |
| 21:43.59 | Krakarn | hehe |
| 21:44.12 | Krakarn | yea escape was the first button i tried for that ^^ |
| 21:44.34 | Krakarn | or you can shiftclick the same doodad perhaps? |
| 21:45.40 | Krakarn | hmm |
| 21:45.45 | Krakarn | or i might be confused |
| 21:46.17 | Krakarn | ctccromer i dont understand what you mean... |
| 21:46.21 | ctccromer | got it thanks |
| 21:46.43 | ctccromer | gr, now like 5 more issues xD would anyone care to PM me and answer about 5 questions? (if ya dont want to, no worries!0 |
| 21:47.22 | casperb | just ask, i don't like PMS o.o |
| 21:48.05 | ctccromer | haha okay well, some or all require lookin at the map |
| 21:48.10 | ctccromer | thats why i didnt wanna just ask in general |
| 21:48.27 | Krakarn | what map is it |
| 21:48.30 | depthsofchaos | someone should also make the cell starge level of spore :o |
| 21:48.33 | depthsofchaos | in multi |
| 21:48.34 | casperb | 70% chance i can answer without looking :p |
| 21:48.55 | casperb | depthsofchaos: cell level was just worms basically wasn't it? |
| 21:49.02 | casperb | mean worms as in snake |
| 21:49.10 | depthsofchaos | big things eating smaller etc |
| 21:49.16 | depthsofchaos | sort of |
| 21:49.21 | casperb | yeah |
| 21:49.39 | depthsofchaos | but still thats the best part of that game xD |
| 21:49.48 | casperb | game kinda sucked :p |
| 21:49.55 | casperb | looked so awesome in the tech previews |
| 21:50.02 | slightlyrandom | Heh, some guy was talking about a multiplayer snake game |
| 21:50.36 | depthsofchaos | yeah it got dumbed down ea stlye |
| 21:50.52 | casperb | i say someone make lemmings, i wanna play it! |
| 21:51.01 | ctccromer | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/somnium/files/1-trying-to-get-a-grip-on-3ps/ |
| 21:51.06 | depthsofchaos | and someone make unreal tournament :p |
| 21:51.13 | depthsofchaos | i give them my shock rifle skill |
| 21:51.20 | casperb | ooo yeah |
| 21:51.23 | ctccromer | flag cannon > all |
| 21:51.26 | ctccromer | flack* |
| 21:51.50 | casperb | depthsofchaos is our data god o.O |
| 21:52.05 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos have you played darwins island for wc3? |
| 21:52.17 | depthsofchaos | nah not rly im just good at abilities :o |
| 21:52.20 | Jum-Jum | that map is cool |
| 21:52.27 | depthsofchaos | nope:/ |
| 21:52.31 | Wihl[ | maybe a dumb question but how can i disable pathing for certain areas? |
| 21:52.33 | Jum-Jum | yes it is! |
| 21:52.39 | depthsofchaos | i didnt play it i mean |
| 21:52.48 | Jum-Jum | Wihl[: Theres a pathing thingy |
| 21:52.49 | casperb | Wihl[: runtime or design? |
| 21:52.49 | Wihl[ | i have a cliff with some doodads but there are some holes and i dont want people to be able to drop stuff there |
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| 21:52.51 | ctccromer | go topathing layer |
| 21:52.51 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos youre a random creep that eats small animals and other creeps, when you level up you become a higher level creep |
| 21:52.52 | Jum-Jum | instead of trigger, terrain etc |
| 21:52.56 | Wihl[ | its a melee map |
| 21:53.02 | ctccromer | go to the Pathing layer |
| 21:53.06 | casperb | Wihl[: terrain editor -> H |
| 21:53.14 | depthsofchaos | so its sort of like spore |
| 21:53.16 | ctccromer | h is the shortcut, yeah |
| 21:53.47 | Wihl[ | how do i block pathing with that though? o.O |
| 21:53.50 | Wihl[ | seems i can only add |
| 21:53.51 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos but sometimes you get a creep that is weaker than the other creeps in the same level, because it wasnt balanced |
| 21:54.00 | casperb | Wihl[: Add no ground pathing :P |
| 21:54.03 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos but i can probably try to make a map like that. it should be kinda cool :) |
| 21:54.08 | ctccromer | @anyone viewing my map: 1. zoom all the way in with the mouse wheel. How do i get the camera to start out this close/at this angle? (i already found a forum for removing scroll-zooming) |
| 21:54.19 | Jum-Jum | you paint where you dont want pathing |
| 21:54.20 | casperb | Wihl[: equals no pathing, you're painting a vertex map basically |
| 21:54.30 | depthsofchaos | was it multiplayer? |
| 21:54.32 | Krakarn | but you probably would implement some other ideas into it to make it more interesting and diverse |
| 21:54.33 | Wihl[ | oh i feel dumb now >.< |
| 21:54.34 | depthsofchaos | gona look at it |
| 21:54.51 | ctccromer | dont! |
| 21:54.55 | ctccromer | we all learn by asking questions :) |
| 21:54.55 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos yes... multiplayer. it is playable in single but not very fun :P |
| 21:55.42 | depthsofchaos | but did you have any chance against someone higher lvl? |
| 21:55.48 | depthsofchaos | who ate creeps like crazy |
| 21:56.12 | Krakarn | not if they were too high level, but if the players were many you would gang the one that was higher level, to make it more equal |
| 21:56.23 | casperb | ctccromer: not all :p |
| 21:56.24 | Krakarn | and if they die they lose xp, so it is possible to decrease level |
| 21:56.35 | ctccromer | not all what? xD |
| 21:56.38 | ctccromer | oh |
| 21:56.40 | ctccromer | nvm sorry |
| 21:56.53 | Krakarn | but if a player reached level 11 they will evolve into a boss, and probably kill everything |
| 21:57.03 | ctccromer | well, i still say youre better to feel dumb for NOT asking than for asking |
| 21:57.36 | ctccromer | what are the red names for, btw? |
| 21:57.39 | casperb | ~seen 3ICE |
| 21:57.50 | purl | i haven't seen '3ice', casperb |
| 21:57.58 | casperb | ~seen ^3ICE |
| 21:57.59 | purl | i haven't seen '^3ice', casperb |
| 21:58.17 | onetwo | ~seen `3Ice |
| 21:58.18 | purl | `3ice <3ice.hu@dsl4E5C7525.pool.t-online.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 17h 13m 3s ago, saying: 'use decals to draw textures'. |
| 21:58.19 | Krakarn | and theres some fountain of healths placed around |
| 21:58.22 | onetwo | there you go |
| 21:58.28 | casperb | thanks onetwo ^^ |
| 21:58.45 | Krakarn | i should consider working on ideas on a map like this, for the sc2 |
| 21:58.50 | hyarion | http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/sc2mapster.com/ *facepalm* |
| 21:59.00 | depthsofchaos | you should ^^ evolution can be made cool |
| 21:59.12 | depthsofchaos | different strains counter others |
| 21:59.58 | depthsofchaos | and you couldnt choose what to evolve to |
| 22:00.02 | Krakarn | but the wc3 map had all these neutral hostile creeps to choose from |
| 22:00.02 | depthsofchaos | your gameplay decides it |
| 22:00.08 | ctccromer | Anyone gonna look at my map? If not i'm gonna go for now |
| 22:00.39 | depthsofchaos | well on release you can just replace all the placeholder models |
| 22:01.24 | onetwo | i hope we get lots of creep units |
| 22:01.25 | onetwo | Krakarn |
| 22:01.26 | onetwo | on release |
| 22:01.27 | onetwo | i need it |
| 22:01.37 | depthsofchaos | also now we can import models |
| 22:01.46 | depthsofchaos | from any game |
| 22:01.48 | redmarine | Doesn't look like it lags. |
| 22:01.58 | redmarine | okay. 4094 units won't lag the game. |
| 22:02.47 | depthsofchaos | if they are dead :o |
| 22:02.57 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos the wc3 map had two kind of food, fiber and protein. if you ate more protein u get more strength based creatures, and fiber you get more magic based creatures |
| 22:03.02 | redmarine | lol, I mean seriously, it won't lag |
| 22:03.13 | depthsofchaos | it will |
| 22:03.16 | redmarine | meh, maybe for low spec pcs |
| 22:03.20 | redmarine | pc* |
| 22:03.42 | depthsofchaos | yeah but could be more complex than 2 factors |
| 22:04.01 | depthsofchaos | like based on locations behaviour etc |
| 22:04.14 | casperb | redmarine: what hardware are you running on? that's pretty extreme |
| 22:04.34 | redmarine | The units are scattered all over a 128x128 map |
| 22:04.51 | depthsofchaos | that damn terran defense map laged all my friends after like 500 zerg popped on the screen |
| 22:05.28 | redmarine | lol |
| 22:05.28 | Krakarn | so you can import all wc3 models and recreate wc3 gameplay :P |
| 22:05.31 | depthsofchaos | and it was literally 1 fps |
| 22:05.40 | redmarine | My pc can handle 30.000 units on one screen without crashing |
| 22:05.41 | Krakarn | but whats the point of that, haha |
| 22:05.45 | redmarine | But then again, it isn't playable |
| 22:05.55 | redmarine | 3000 is crazy |
| 22:05.58 | redmarine | enough |
| 22:05.58 | depthsofchaos | i didnt try importing animations yet but yeha its possible |
| 22:06.07 | depthsofchaos | but w3 models look crap |
| 22:06.09 | depthsofchaos | anyway |
| 22:06.17 | Krakarn | they have their charm |
| 22:06.34 | Krakarn | but when i saw the graphics the first time i thought it looked like gnome land |
| 22:06.45 | Krakarn | or "tomteland" in swedish |
| 22:06.54 | Krakarn | with all the pointy pines and shit |
| 22:07.09 | depthsofchaos | yeah everything squished i dont like it |
| 22:07.37 | depthsofchaos | sc2 units scale properly |
| 22:07.38 | Krakarn | and they went from wc1 with cool dark atmosphere to wc2 with more colorful graphics to wc3 with happy 3d graphics... :P |
| 22:08.04 | Krakarn | i like the first one the best |
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| 22:10.13 | Krakarn | but someone released a cool mod to wc3, called 'realcraft' which tried to emulate a gameplay more like starcraft, and also changed the graphics to have a more darker feeling |
| 22:10.42 | Krakarn | but it never broke through in terms of popularity, it was very complicated to implement into your game if you wanted to play it |
| 22:10.48 | Krakarn | and it was very large too |
| 22:11.40 | depthsofchaos | well no one wants to play sc in w3 :p |
| 22:11.51 | depthsofchaos | at least i wouldnt |
| 22:12.44 | Krakarn | well it wasnt sc, it was still very much like wc3 with same units but gameplay changed alot, it was like an own game |
| 22:12.44 | depthsofchaos | btw there were other map ideas too: black and white, populus |
| 22:13.30 | Krakarn | the upkeep took gold from you every second based on how much food you had used, so before you built an army you had to make sure you had the gold for it, and enough expansions |
| 22:13.54 | Wihl[ | er, pathing in sc2 seems a bit buggy |
| 22:14.10 | Krakarn | hmm |
| 22:14.13 | Wihl[ | i have two groups of probes, each group consists of 80 or so probes |
| 22:14.22 | Krakarn | i have played black and white but i dont remember the gameplay |
| 22:14.23 | Wihl[ | i march one group up the ramp and one down the ramp at the same time |
| 22:14.33 | depthsofchaos | you know giant monster pets that grow |
| 22:14.35 | depthsofchaos | and you are god |
| 22:14.42 | Wihl[ | in the end they will both get to their destination after some pushing and shoving |
| 22:14.44 | depthsofchaos | trying to take over villages |
| 22:14.56 | Wihl[ | but 7 or so probes will just end up standing at the ramp doing nothing |
| 22:14.58 | Clord | black and white sequel was bit "failure" |
| 22:14.59 | Clord | XD |
| 22:15.10 | Clord | they didn't even got time to do AI for it |
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| 22:15.38 | depthsofchaos | pathing was always buged, try repeating the command |
| 22:15.39 | Krakarn | yeah well i remember getting bored with it pretty quick :P |
| 22:15.41 | depthsofchaos | until its there |
| 22:15.52 | depthsofchaos | well it could be cool in multiplayer |
| 22:16.00 | depthsofchaos | not with stupid ai |
| 22:16.01 | Clord | first black and white however got proper AI but it was forest whore ;) |
| 22:16.28 | depthsofchaos | i remember showing civilians on the ground a lot |
| 22:16.33 | depthsofchaos | shoving |
| 22:16.51 | depthsofchaos | and they got scared and loved me for it :p |
| 22:16.58 | Clord | they really like screw over their economy long run with uprooting every tree |
| 22:17.06 | Clord | lol |
| 22:17.14 | Clord | that is enemy's god AI... uproot everything |
| 22:17.39 | depthsofchaos | xd |
| 22:17.50 | depthsofchaos | well it still seemed smart |
| 22:17.54 | Clord | they also likes to leash their creature to stay stuck sometimes and hmmmmm |
| 22:18.01 | Clord | they are not that agressive with spell usage |
| 22:18.33 | Clord | they want influense about literally top of town before they even consider offensive spells that much in attacking |
| 22:18.37 | heysparky | I enjoyed B&W, but it had some pretty awkward gameplay |
| 22:18.48 | heysparky | and I ran into a showstopper bug at the end of the 3rd or 4th scenario |
| 22:18.53 | heysparky | in the campaign |
| 22:18.55 | heysparky | frustrating |
| 22:19.07 | heysparky | I didn't play B&W 2 |
| 22:19.24 | depthsofchaos | i rly think it would have potetnital in sc2 multi |
| 22:20.23 | depthsofchaos | theres already a cow model in the game :PP |
| 22:21.59 | casperb | tauren? :p |
| 22:22.30 | depthsofchaos | no i remember seeing an actual cow |
| 22:22.49 | Clord | lol |
| 22:22.53 | Krakarn | i like this game where you could alter the terrain up and down, and like summon weather i think it was really old for some console dont remmember |
| 22:23.08 | Clord | populous PC game |
| 22:23.11 | Clord | populous the beginning |
| 22:23.15 | Clord | XD |
| 22:23.15 | Krakarn | but u didnt control the units |
| 22:23.25 | Krakarn | hmm yea maybe it was for pc dont remember |
| 22:23.29 | Clord | first ones in series was 2d games and units was not directly controlled |
| 22:23.30 | Krakarn | or maybe bothh |
| 22:23.48 | Krakarn | it was isometric graphics |
| 22:23.54 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know that game where you were in the sky on small roads that got destroyed oertime |
| 22:24.04 | depthsofchaos | you had to harvest clouds n stuff |
| 22:24.20 | Clord | that populous PC game rocked what was 3d one... shaman what has spells to screw over enemy tons of ways |
| 22:24.25 | Clord | raise terrain to destroy structures |
| 22:24.27 | Clord | lol |
| 22:24.47 | Krakarn | umm no, but now i remember a game where you race to the end on platforms in space, and you could jump and run out of fuel |
| 22:25.12 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos is that a new or old game? |
| 22:25.20 | depthsofchaos | really old |
| 22:25.24 | depthsofchaos | and i really loved it |
| 22:25.29 | depthsofchaos | but cant remember |
| 22:25.43 | Krakarn | for what platform |
| 22:25.48 | depthsofchaos | pc |
| 22:25.53 | Krakarn | dos? |
| 22:25.56 | depthsofchaos | something like storm** |
| 22:26.00 | depthsofchaos | win 95 |
| 22:26.46 | Krakarn | maybe you can make a pinball game with minigames in sc2 :D if your ball gets this bonus stage, you get to play a minigame. and the one with the most score in the end wins |
| 22:27.05 | heysparky | I'm trying to grant the Cliff Jumper behavior with an aura, but it's not working |
| 22:27.13 | heysparky | if I just give the unit the behavior it works |
| 22:27.16 | heysparky | so the mover is okay |
| 22:27.23 | heysparky | any thoughts? |
| 22:27.53 | Wihl[ | someone needs to recreate Ignition in SC2 |
| 22:28.07 | Krakarn | rock nb roll racing :D |
| 22:28.09 | depthsofchaos | no clue if it work by manually ading it should othervise |
| 22:28.14 | Krakarn | heysparky no idea |
| 22:28.22 | depthsofchaos | pin ball would need some sick physic calculation |
| 22:28.22 | heysparky | dag |
| 22:28.25 | Krakarn | have anyone played death rally ? |
| 22:28.56 | Krakarn | depthsofchaos wait |
| 22:29.22 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVi-c1flZzg |
| 22:29.37 | Krakarn | check it out |
| 22:29.48 | Wihl[ | Wacky Wheels |
| 22:30.08 | Wihl[ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVIiKp6xMs |
| 22:30.11 | Wihl[ | bring me back |
| 22:30.12 | Krakarn | carmageddon ^^ |
| 22:30.13 | Wihl[ | wipes tear |
| 22:30.41 | Krakarn | huh, never played that game |
| 22:30.44 | depthsofchaos | yeah that looks rly good but would lag online i guess |
| 22:30.52 | Krakarn | oh my god it looks like mario kart |
| 22:31.05 | depthsofchaos | i only played wacky racers p |
| 22:31.18 | casperb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opru6qPsPa4&feature=related |
| 22:31.20 | casperb | best game ever :p |
| 22:31.23 | Hati | omg wacky weels |
| 22:31.25 | Hati | OMG! |
| 22:31.45 | Krakarn | it's a ripoff of super mario kart? lol :P |
| 22:31.55 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HaYZsc66Bk |
| 22:32.03 | Hati | No it's better than mario kart |
| 22:32.04 | casperb | super mario kart came like in what the late 90s? |
| 22:32.14 | Hati | It has a shark! |
| 22:32.20 | Hati | Super mario kart has none. |
| 22:32.22 | Krakarn | uhm not really :D |
| 22:32.28 | Wihl[ | Hati - best was when you drove into the water |
| 22:32.33 | casperb | Day of the Tentacle :D |
| 22:32.34 | Wihl[ | and you got a little periscope |
| 22:32.36 | Krakarn | late 90s sc came :D |
| 22:32.41 | casperb | ah snap i still love these old game |
| 22:32.41 | casperb | s |
| 22:32.48 | Wihl[ | The Dig as well |
| 22:32.55 | Wihl[ | Redneck Rampage |
| 22:32.57 | Wihl[ | Outlaw |
| 22:33.12 | depthsofchaos | and monkey island |
| 22:33.15 | depthsofchaos | yay |
| 22:33.21 | Hati | the devil <3 |
| 22:33.22 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE73NUYK0Ws |
| 22:33.26 | Krakarn | anyone played this`? |
| 22:33.37 | heysparky | All about Grim Fandango |
| 22:33.49 | Krakarn | for super nintendo |
| 22:34.29 | Krakarn | Loom :D |
| 22:34.52 | Triceron | Bible Games |
| 22:34.52 | Krakarn | played the old indiana jones adventure games, point and click. oh my god so nostalgic |
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| 22:35.01 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwfF5-Wt6YU |
| 22:35.10 | Krakarn | with dos graphics small pixelated gold balls |
| 22:35.14 | depthsofchaos | rly no one know what game was that with platforms over the clouds? |
| 22:35.20 | Wihl[ | heysparky - grimd fandango is easily one of my favorite games |
| 22:35.24 | Wihl[ | -d |
| 22:35.37 | casperb | little big adventure? o.o |
| 22:35.45 | casperb | no idea just a name that popped into my head |
| 22:35.45 | Hati | heysparky: any more information ? |
| 22:35.50 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AQvgbdtIJk - flashback!! |
| 22:35.59 | Hati | wtf |
| 22:36.05 | Hati | was to depth |
| 22:36.27 | redmarine | Hm, is it possible to have invisible units without them being invisible? |
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| 22:36.34 | Krakarn | hmm lba yea i remember that :D i thought it was cool but very hard |
| 22:37.20 | depthsofchaos | lol now i know where abe was copied from |
| 22:37.33 | Krakarn | ? |
| 22:37.45 | casperb | the alien platformer? |
| 22:38.05 | depthsofchaos | abe's odysee |
| 22:38.18 | casperb | yeah you're an alien or something and you die alot :p |
| 22:38.33 | depthsofchaos | and it was a damn hard game |
| 22:38.35 | Krakarn | sounds like flashback, but youre a human instead |
| 22:39.36 | depthsofchaos | it was rly scary actually when i played it :p |
| 22:39.52 | Wihl[ | sabes odysee was pretty cool |
| 22:40.02 | casperb | PSX wasn't it? |
| 22:40.09 | Wihl[ | was on pc as well iirc |
| 22:40.37 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgkf6wooDmw - another world |
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| 22:41.40 | Cromalic | sup ppls! |
| 22:41.48 | casperb | wasaaa |
| 22:42.02 | depthsofchaos | seems i missed a lot of games :o |
| 22:42.05 | Cromalic | wazzzaaaap |
| 22:42.17 | depthsofchaos | hai |
| 22:42.27 | Cromalic | so when... WHEN... is beta coming back up |
| 22:42.44 | depthsofchaos | when dustin browders hair grows back |
| 22:42.54 | Dustin | :O |
| 22:43.02 | Cromalic | someone get that man a miracle cure |
| 22:43.20 | Cromalic | neeeeeed beta |
| 22:43.23 | Cromalic | i'm dying here |
| 22:43.28 | Cromalic | everything else is boring |
| 22:43.29 | Cromalic | :P |
| 22:43.34 | casperb | Hehe do some bugfixing :P |
| 22:43.52 | depthsofchaos | or make me the game thats name i cant remember :/ |
| 22:43.59 | Cromalic | =P |
| 22:44.13 | Cromalic | my map has no bugs |
| 22:44.23 | Cromalic | which i know of |
| 22:44.25 | Cromalic | =) |
| 22:44.32 | Cromalic | then when i get to try it on bnet |
| 22:44.44 | Cromalic | prob 10-15 of them are gonna pop up |
| 22:44.45 | casperb | everything blows up? :p |
| 22:44.50 | casperb | hehe yeah |
| 22:45.08 | Cromalic | that is, if i'm able to put the lobby together correctly at all |
| 22:45.42 | Krakarn | hehe |
| 22:45.51 | rrowland | There are always bugs |
| 22:45.57 | Krakarn | what did you say you do in that game depthsofchaos? |
| 22:46.25 | depthsofchaos | duno you walk on platforms in the sky with monk looking guys and collect something |
| 22:46.31 | Cromalic | true rrowland |
| 22:46.42 | depthsofchaos | and build cannons and more road |
| 22:46.47 | casperb | But some bugs are actually features! ;) |
| 22:46.52 | depthsofchaos | and the road can fall of the sky sometimes :o |
| 22:47.11 | Krakarn | it sounds really... weird |
| 22:47.19 | Cromalic | ye if someone comes to me telling me they found a bug |
| 22:47.32 | Cromalic | i'm just gonna say it's working as intented |
| 22:47.35 | depthsofchaos | it doesnt look weird tho :p its sort of an rts |
| 22:47.38 | Cromalic | screw them |
| 22:47.55 | Krakarn | and you control these monks or whatever? |
| 22:48.09 | Krakarn | hm |
| 22:48.15 | depthsofchaos | cant remember :o |
| 22:48.23 | Krakarn | ok |
| 22:48.31 | Krakarn | dont think ive played it |
| 22:48.36 | Krakarn | im trying to picture how it would look |
| 22:48.40 | depthsofchaos | i think im gona get my 15 year old cds out and try to find it :o |
| 22:48.49 | Krakarn | how was the graphics? |
| 22:48.56 | Krakarn | bad 3d or old 2d? |
| 22:48.58 | depthsofchaos | 2d sort of like starcraft |
| 22:49.45 | hyarion | would be cool to make sc2 in sc3, is it possible to have a ortho perspective? |
| 22:50.16 | casperb | uhm how about waiting for sc2 to be released first? :P |
| 22:50.53 | Dustin | Someone should use Galaxy Editor like a 2D game engine and remake SC1 in 2D using the old sprites. |
| 22:51.08 | casperb | o.o |
| 22:51.18 | casperb | Well there is billboard support.. |
| 22:51.32 | depthsofchaos | sc3 will be released on kinect |
| 22:51.43 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1lbCWqiqyk - moonstone |
| 22:52.45 | depthsofchaos | lol i remeber that |
| 22:54.23 | Krakarn | i completely adore the graphics |
| 22:54.46 | depthsofchaos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yo-Cp_EgMk |
| 22:54.47 | depthsofchaos | xD |
| 22:55.00 | Krakarn | well, probably for the nostalgic value |
| 22:56.37 | Krakarn | haha wow' |
| 22:57.06 | Krakarn | first time i see that... nice main character :P |
| 22:57.27 | depthsofchaos | i played it like crazy tho i could never beat the 2nd level :P |
| 22:57.34 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGyPtnEQ8gw |
| 22:58.47 | depthsofchaos | this looks cool, didnt play it :/ |
| 22:59.44 | Krakarn | yeah its really cool game, very nice humour |
| 22:59.59 | Krakarn | like monkeyb island sorta |
| 23:00.33 | casperb | why did they stop making those kinds of games :( |
| 23:00.45 | casperb | i mean you have dreamfall.. and uhm |
| 23:01.03 | casperb | yeah that's the only one i know of post early 90s :p |
| 23:01.15 | casperb | oh yeah and the new monkey island |
| 23:01.16 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8npW85PW0s |
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| 23:01.58 | depthsofchaos | they can sell MW 2 so they can sell anything, no need for quality :o |
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| 23:02.37 | heysparky | Hati, missed your question back there - information about what? Grim Fandango? |
| 23:02.42 | Krakarn | omg there was agame called myth or something like that, an rts |
| 23:02.50 | Cromalic | wow |
| 23:02.51 | Hati | nah wasn't pointed to you |
| 23:02.55 | Cromalic | i just got a new computer |
| 23:02.57 | Hati | somehow the direction got screwd |
| 23:03.18 | Cromalic | with quad 2.6 ghz and Radeon HD5870 |
| 23:03.24 | Krakarn | whats mw2?? |
| 23:03.31 | Cromalic | and still the fps drops like mad on Ultra settings :( |
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| 23:03.47 | Cromalic | i thought i could run it with tons of fps now on ultra |
| 23:04.03 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0t3paCm21E |
| 23:04.07 | Piddu | i have made marauder missile to collide with everything they find on their path |
| 23:04.35 | Krakarn | this game was so fucking cool |
| 23:04.41 | EternalWraith | I remember Myth.. |
| 23:05.01 | heysparky | what was the RTS where at the end of each scenario you could select which of your surviving units to retain in hte next scenario? |
| 23:05.05 | heysparky | they got better and better |
| 23:05.08 | heysparky | Battle something |
| 23:05.13 | heysparky | that was a GREAT mechanic |
| 23:05.48 | heysparky | "07<+Hati> 01heysparky: any more information ?" wasn't pointed at me? |
| 23:06.27 | Alpha_vst | weee back about time |
| 23:06.34 | Krakarn | i think it was meant to be pointed to depthsofchaos |
| 23:07.06 | Krakarn | regardin a game he wanted to remember |
| 23:07.25 | depthsofchaos | too bad i only remember that much |
| 23:07.37 | heysparky | ah |
| 23:07.42 | heysparky | well |
| 23:07.47 | heysparky | X-COM |
| 23:07.51 | heysparky | boom, done |
| 23:08.08 | Krakarn | couldnt be xcoom |
| 23:08.17 | Krakarn | theres no clouds |
| 23:08.32 | Krakarn | and mponks, doesnt makle sense |
| 23:08.42 | Piddu | ther's a new xcom on the way |
| 23:08.52 | Piddu | you know? |
| 23:08.56 | heysparky | yeah |
| 23:08.59 | Krakarn | yeah |
| 23:09.06 | Krakarn | by 2k games .... |
| 23:09.06 | heysparky | reserving judgement until I play |
| 23:09.26 | Krakarn | seen the trailer |
| 23:09.30 | heysparky | oh.... you guys were trying to remember that cloud game |
| 23:09.37 | Krakarn | gameplay trailer |
| 23:10.00 | Krakarn | and the enemy seems diverse *cough* |
| 23:10.40 | heysparky | heh, looking at trailer now |
| 23:10.47 | heysparky | reminds me of Kill All Humans |
| 23:11.24 | Krakarn | anyone seen code geass? |
| 23:11.34 | Alpha_vst | have i missed much :P |
| 23:11.44 | heysparky | the aliens are living oil spills... appropo |
| 23:12.11 | Krakarn | yea... really inspiring. |
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| 23:12.37 | heysparky | well, really, that's just one piece of the X-Com gameplay that I expect |
| 23:13.02 | heysparky | if they leave out base building and resource allocation, it's not X-Com... AND naming your recruits after your friends and co-workers |
| 23:13.06 | Krakarn | anyone played sim city on wc3? |
| 23:13.21 | Krakarn | sim city wars* |
| 23:14.08 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjt4vhSqtFQ&feature=player_embedded i want to see this movie |
| 23:14.10 | Alpha_vst | omg |
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| 23:17.16 | heysparky | Is Michael Cerra getting YOUNGER? |
| 23:18.08 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 23:18.12 | Alpha_vst | it looks like it |
| 23:18.16 | depthsofchaos | oh dear that movie looks horrible xD |
| 23:18.29 | Alpha_vst | how does it look horrible |
| 23:19.00 | depthsofchaos | dunno smells like hollywood teenmovie me |
| 23:19.05 | depthsofchaos | *to me |
| 23:19.06 | Krakarn | hmm the trailer is kinda stressy |
| 23:19.17 | Krakarn | :P |
| 23:19.20 | depthsofchaos | i might be wrong |
| 23:20.16 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcSsgRiA_Ms |
| 23:20.17 | Alpha_vst | it just looks to be nifty :P |
| 23:21.26 | heysparky | I know the guys who did the Prime sounds/soundtrack |
| 23:21.29 | heysparky | cool dudes |
| 23:21.47 | Krakarn | :D |
| 23:21.50 | Krakarn | nice |
| 23:21.57 | redmarine | Hm, what is the function called for creating doodads`? |
| 23:21.57 | Krakarn | I love it |
| 23:22.11 | Wihl | can you make an elevator / moving platform in the editor btw? <.< |
| 23:22.19 | heysparky | whaddya mean red? |
| 23:22.30 | Wihl | or something like an escalator |
| 23:22.32 | heysparky | doodads are actors, if that's what... |
| 23:22.35 | redmarine | heysparky, how do I create doodads via the trigger editor. |
| 23:22.41 | redmarine | Oh, right... |
| 23:22.42 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGTUz4OnzdM |
| 23:22.44 | redmarine | Forgot that |
| 23:23.40 | depthsofchaos | someone made a tristram map for sc :o |
| 23:23.42 | depthsofchaos | sc2 |
| 23:23.47 | redmarine | link |
| 23:24.00 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 23:24.09 | Alpha_vst | we have 2 many red people |
| 23:24.20 | redmarine | what do you mean? |
| 23:24.31 | depthsofchaos | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tristram/ |
| 23:24.36 | depthsofchaos | not done :/ |
| 23:24.51 | heysparky | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf7h6o3I8yw |
| 23:25.11 | redmarine | I see. |
| 23:25.20 | redmarine | He should have chosen the Diablo 2 selection screen |
| 23:25.24 | redmarine | I know a guy who made it |
| 23:25.31 | redmarine | for SC2 |
| 23:25.54 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:26.37 | Alpha_vst | i wish we could use the loading screen to set options |
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| 23:26.58 | Jcup | Hey guizz |
| 23:26.59 | Jcup | :D |
| 23:27.35 | heysparky | ...Andrea Schnoonens |
| 23:27.36 | heysparky | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4WRySFLFmw |
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| 23:28.55 | Jcup | lol what is this |
| 23:29.03 | heysparky | funny |
| 23:29.07 | heysparky | that's what it is |
| 23:29.40 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwVxi0FZE4U - deflektor. make this into sc2 if u can :) |
| 23:30.05 | Jcup | yeah ha is it from something? |
| 23:30.16 | heysparky | no, they're a comedy duo |
| 23:30.21 | Jcup | oh ha |
| 23:30.24 | heysparky | they've done a bunch of sketches |
| 23:30.32 | heysparky | this and Knock Knock are my favorite |
| 23:30.37 | heysparky | Knock Knock is dark |
| 23:30.51 | heysparky | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DFTmBrMYPw&feature=channel |
| 23:30.58 | redmarine | How do I change an actors height? |
| 23:31.06 | redmarine | Like how high it floats |
| 23:31.09 | heysparky | you don't... height is on the unit |
| 23:31.12 | redmarine | via triggers or data editor |
| 23:31.19 | redmarine | Okay, doodad |
| 23:31.20 | heysparky | iirc |
| 23:32.38 | depthsofchaos | you add it a site operation |
| 23:32.48 | depthsofchaos | local offset |
| 23:32.50 | depthsofchaos | on the z axis |
| 23:32.53 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjloIU9zSN4 - switchblade |
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| 23:33.51 | depthsofchaos | looks pro xD |
| 23:35.17 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDmJNcYLbuQ this game is cool :) |
| 23:35.20 | casperb | Nah actor's height is set by height |
| 23:35.24 | casperb | unit height by unit height :P |
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| 23:36.24 | Krakarn | you die in one hit always, and if u fall too high |
| 23:36.50 | Krakarn | and theres traps everywhere |
| 23:37.16 | Krakarn | hmm or maybe you can fall as high as you want |
| 23:37.17 | heysparky | harh? |
| 23:37.31 | heysparky | why two height settings? |
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| 23:37.40 | depthsofchaos | sounds like a game id smash on the wall xD |
| 23:37.56 | Krakarn | its trial and error mostly |
| 23:38.28 | Krakarn | i didnrt have the patience for it as a kid so i cheated :P infinite lives an ammo |
| 23:38.30 | depthsofchaos | actors got no height field |
| 23:39.21 | casperb | they do |
| 23:39.25 | casperb | x,y,z position |
| 23:39.58 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHcoemBuUZ0&feature=related |
| 23:40.10 | depthsofchaos | well if you place them in the editor |
| 23:40.20 | depthsofchaos | if you want to spawn them im not sure right now |
| 23:41.01 | casperb | set position, set position z |
| 23:41.11 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zhakuldas-grounds/. Zhakul'Das Grounds. Jestek (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 23:41.13 | casperb | sets absolute world pos |
| 23:41.13 | heysparky | oh, heh, I had a friend obsessed with North & South |
| 23:41.15 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/marauders/. Marauders!. acidragoon (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 23:41.19 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/aiurs-shards/. Aiur's Shards. Jestek (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 23:41.24 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/meleecramped/. Cramped. Timthetoolman (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 23:41.28 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/ulrezaj-test-build/. Ulrezaj Test Build. Wunterwaffen (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 23:41.33 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/desert-river/. Desert River. Oneknown (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 23:41.47 | Bifuu | yeah repo spam! |
| 23:41.52 | depthsofchaos | yeah you can do it with events |
| 23:41.56 | depthsofchaos | or host site |
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| 23:42.48 | Krakarn | is that repo on time or updated regularly? |
| 23:42.53 | depthsofchaos | ok i cant find that game im going to kill some babies |
| 23:43.05 | depthsofchaos | its real time |
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| 23:44.25 | Krakarn | oh |
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| 23:44.59 | Krakarn | "approved by Bifuu" i thought it was when they uploaded it :P |
| 23:45.04 | heysparky | DoC, rts for sure? |
| 23:45.40 | Bifuu | that means i was the one that approved it right then |
| 23:45.47 | depthsofchaos | ye im not sure if you could control workers tho |
| 23:46.26 | heysparky | hard vaccuum? |
| 23:46.39 | Krakarn | yea :) at first i thought repo said new map whenever some1 uploaded a map |
| 23:47.31 | Krakarn | so it wouldve been strange if they all uploaded at the same time :) |
| 23:47.39 | depthsofchaos | doesnt look like it, it was not in space but next to the clouds |
| 23:48.39 | Krakarn | did u play it much depthsofchaos |
| 23:48.40 | Krakarn | ? |
| 23:49.40 | depthsofchaos | not that much but i remembered it was rly good maybe i only played a freeware and it didnt get released |
| 23:49.42 | depthsofchaos | duno |
| 23:50.12 | Krakarn | would like to know the concept' |
| 23:50.45 | depthsofchaos | you had to build routes in the sky to reach resources |
| 23:50.56 | depthsofchaos | then build all kinds of structures |
| 23:51.44 | Krakarn | searching for "clouds rts" on google xD |
| 23:52.31 | depthsofchaos | nah dont bother i tryed 10-20 keywords :p |
| 23:52.36 | Krakarn | not much luck |
| 23:52.49 | Krakarn | wait a sec... |
| 23:52.52 | depthsofchaos | only a rly old school gamer would know this i guess |
| 23:53.00 | heysparky | well |
| 23:53.04 | heysparky | no |
| 23:53.24 | Alpha_vst | so im back to trial and error :( |
| 23:53.27 | Alpha_vst | fucking textures |
| 23:53.31 | Alpha_vst | hate you hate you to shit |
| 23:54.44 | redmarine | How do I change the default height of a doodad via the data editor? So they always are at height 2 when placed. I'm using a huge trigger to place them all over the map. |
| 23:55.00 | Alpha_vst | they have a a random value |
| 23:55.17 | Alpha_vst | set the random varition to 0 |
| 23:55.22 | redmarine | Well, the height is always at 0 |
| 23:55.23 | Alpha_vst | or what ever it is |
| 23:55.26 | redmarine | or something like that |
| 23:55.30 | Krakarn | i remember i have this free game for ubuntu |
| 23:55.45 | Krakarn | that u build bases and turrets and connections |
| 23:56.02 | Krakarn | and theres attacks from planes |
| 23:56.12 | Krakarn | every now and then |
| 23:56.13 | Alpha_vst | does anyone know the hardpoint of terrain textures.... |
| 23:56.32 | depthsofchaos | is it sci-fi ? |
| 23:56.44 | Krakarn | you build connections from bases to pumps |
| 23:56.47 | Krakarn | yeah |
| 23:56.47 | depthsofchaos | cause this wasnt rly humanly as i remember :o |
| 23:57.00 | depthsofchaos | in the air? |
| 23:57.13 | heysparky | I don |
| 23:57.20 | heysparky | I don't, alpha |
| 23:57.31 | Krakarn | but maybe it has information about what gamee it is based on |
| 23:58.18 | depthsofchaos | and you know its title? |
| 23:59.04 | Krakarn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ4S3n8Zgu8 |
| 23:59.17 | Krakarn | im trying to figure it outr :=) |
| 23:59.34 | Alpha_vst | does anything know where textures start from? |
| 23:59.39 | Alpha_vst | is it the center of the map? |
| 23:59.44 | Alpha_vst | or what |
