| 00:00.02 | Vulfe | my point is that it already has it |
| 00:00.06 | Vulfe | but it's not doing anything |
| 00:00.19 | Alpha_vst | then it was done wrong :P |
| 00:00.30 | Vulfe | he didn't do anything to the alpha |
| 00:00.31 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:00.40 | Alpha_vst | then it doesnt have it |
| 00:00.43 | Alpha_vst | so you lied |
| 00:00.45 | Vulfe | it's a bunker |
| 00:00.58 | Vulfe | it has playercolor during its death animation |
| 00:01.01 | Vulfe | but I don't really care |
| 00:01.04 | Vulfe | since it will never die |
| 00:01.13 | DarkPrince | Okay... Is there a Triggering Dialog Item? :P |
| 00:01.18 | Vulfe | Nope |
| 00:01.21 | Vulfe | use conditions |
| 00:01.23 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:01.24 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 00:01.54 | DarkPrince | How can you use conditions without that? Bah... Now I have to seperate the trigger into 3. |
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| 00:02.09 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 00:02.10 | Vulfe | You don't have to separate it into 3 triggers |
| 00:02.21 | Vulfe | just use a for loop with an array (lol 3 array) or if/.then statements |
| 00:02.25 | Alpha_vst | its called if then else |
| 00:02.32 | Alpha_vst | or a loop |
| 00:02.35 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 00:02.46 | DarkPrince | Oh! ... I assume rather just check state of dialog item in the loop? |
| 00:02.57 | slightlyrandom | I try to make my triggers do one thing, and one thing only |
| 00:03.03 | Vulfe | you can check if the used dialog item is a specific one |
| 00:03.19 | slightlyrandom | I can see you lot ain't on my team ^^ |
| 00:03.45 | Vulfe | the only problem with your logic, slightlyrandom, is that "one thing" in my case is establishing an entire dialog tree, while in your case, it's only the box and the buttons |
| 00:03.49 | DarkPrince | Oh, how is a dialog item "used", pressed and release, etc? |
| 00:03.58 | Vulfe | just pressed mostly |
| 00:04.01 | Vulfe | for buttons at least |
| 00:04.04 | slightlyrandom | Well, I am getting to the dialog tree thing :P |
| 00:04.16 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:04.17 | Vulfe | ok |
| 00:04.28 | Vulfe | Also, you can just write triggers |
| 00:04.30 | Vulfe | disable them |
| 00:04.37 | Vulfe | and copy/paste to a trigger with the same event |
| 00:04.40 | Vulfe | : \ |
| 00:05.06 | Vulfe | I guess if you want to keep that .001 MB out of your mapsize, it would be preferable not to |
| 00:05.29 | slightlyrandom | I've spent 300kb on some proper sounds ^^ |
| 00:05.40 | Vulfe | I spent 1.4 MB on a model |
| 00:05.42 | Vulfe | I'm bad |
| 00:05.42 | Vulfe | : ( |
| 00:06.05 | slightlyrandom | what. the. fuck. |
| 00:06.38 | Alpha_vst | i spend over 20mb on textures |
| 00:06.41 | Alpha_vst | ggg |
| 00:06.43 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 00:07.10 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:07.17 | Vulfe | you can only have 10.5 in a published map |
| 00:07.46 | slightlyrandom | Whats the way to localize a map ? |
| 00:07.58 | Alpha_vst | 10.5 what? |
| 00:08.22 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Sixen |
| 00:08.46 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (21h 25m) #wowuidev (21h 25m). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 48m 44s, last said: ':|'. |
| 00:08.46 | Alpha_vst | oh my map is only like 5mb compressed |
| 00:08.46 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 00:08.46 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen sixen |
| 00:08.47 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (21h 25m 1s) #wowuidev (21h 25m 1s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 48m 45s, last said: ':|'. |
| 00:08.47 | fatal5101 | how do i get the size of an array in a action? |
| 00:09.03 | fatal5101 | ~seen fatal5101 |
| 00:09.04 | purl | fatal5101 <~Fatal510@c-98-238-144-217.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1s ago, saying: '~seen fatal5101'. |
| 00:09.34 | Vulfe | Nobody will ever recognize me on the forums |
| 00:09.41 | Vulfe | Some jerk took my name |
| 00:09.42 | Vulfe | : ( |
| 00:10.19 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 00:10.27 | Alpha_vst | yeah gg for not unique names |
| 00:10.34 | Alpha_vst | its pretty stupid |
| 00:11.46 | Vulfe | I used mine backwards |
| 00:11.50 | Vulfe | Showed that bastard. |
| 00:12.02 | fatal5101 | General - For each integer A from 1 to Number of (my var array) with increment 1, do (Actions) |
| 00:12.05 | fatal5101 | how do i do that |
| 00:12.32 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 00:12.38 | Vulfe | Use a local variable |
| 00:12.43 | Vulfe | for the integer |
| 00:12.44 | heysparky | oh lord, I'm an idiot |
| 00:12.50 | slightlyrandom | You too ? |
| 00:12.54 | Vulfe | what is it, heysparky? |
| 00:12.58 | Alpha_vst | for each interger (your interger) from 1 to 2 |
| 00:12.59 | heysparky | OF COURSE there are two printouts of the decrementing variable |
| 00:13.06 | heysparky | I have TWO instances of the trigger running |
| 00:13.10 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 00:13.12 | heysparky | ./facepalm |
| 00:13.12 | Alpha_vst | HAHAHAHA |
| 00:13.14 | Alpha_vst | HUGS |
| 00:14.08 | Alpha_vst | its always the simple things 0.o |
| 00:14.59 | heysparky | but... the larva spawners are still interminably spawning their spawn |
| 00:16.01 | Alpha_vst | interwhatably? |
| 00:16.10 | heysparky | they won't stop spawning |
| 00:17.14 | slightlyrandom | terminate |
| 00:17.18 | slightlyrandom | in terminate ably |
| 00:17.21 | slightlyrandom | interminably |
| 00:17.35 | Alpha_vst | it looks funny :P |
| 00:17.42 | slightlyrandom | Indeed |
| 00:17.44 | Alpha_vst | is all |
| 00:17.49 | fatal5101 | ~seen mittsies |
| 00:17.50 | purl | mittsies is currently on #sc2mapster (5h 7m 59s). Has said a total of 78 messages. Is idling for 43m 3s, last said: 'ah I see. Thanks.'. |
| 00:18.06 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/errors/ by Th3LaughingMan |
| 00:18.14 | Alpha_vst | does it stop printing the message? |
| 00:18.26 | TheLaughingMan | Stupid error |
| 00:18.40 | TheLaughingMan | The wierdest error I have seen |
| 00:18.56 | Alpha_vst | what error |
| 00:19.10 | TheLaughingMan | Registry Overload |
| 00:19.24 | Alpha_vst | odd like |
| 00:19.31 | TheLaughingMan | So far it looks like it only happens when you try to concat 29 or more strings |
| 00:19.41 | Alpha_vst | heysparky does the message stop printing? |
| 00:19.48 | TheLaughingMan | It is ok when you do 28, but 29 is a big no no |
| 00:19.55 | slightlyrandom | How about 30 ? |
| 00:20.01 | TheLaughingMan | 29 or more |
| 00:20.07 | slightlyrandom | or 56 |
| 00:20.12 | TheLaughingMan | or more |
| 00:20.15 | slightlyrandom | or less! |
| 00:20.20 | TheLaughingMan | XD |
| 00:20.29 | Alpha_vst | concat? |
| 00:20.40 | TheLaughingMan | "Test 1" + "Test 2" ....etc |
| 00:20.48 | Vulfe | putting strings together, Alpha |
| 00:21.02 | Vulfe | it's like concactenate or some weird word like that |
| 00:21.20 | heysparky | Alpha it did, but the spawners kept training |
| 00:21.24 | TheLaughingMan | Concatenate |
| 00:21.29 | heysparky | but... I made some changes... now they don't |
| 00:21.34 | slightlyrandom | ! |
| 00:21.37 | slightlyrandom | You stopped them! |
| 00:22.25 | Alpha_vst | oh thats good then i wont suggest some random way to fix it that might not work then |
| 00:22.27 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 00:22.34 | heysparky | lol |
| 00:22.37 | Sozer | my character was deleted again!! aahhhggg! |
| 00:22.47 | Sozer | all my 3 friends!!! |
| 00:22.52 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 00:22.56 | Alpha_vst | hey beta ends today |
| 00:22.57 | Vulfe | It's funny that you say that, TheLaughingMan, because in Galaxy Editor it's just called "Combine Text" |
| 00:22.58 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:22.59 | Alpha_vst | dont worry |
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| 00:23.01 | Sozer | yeah |
| 00:23.05 | Vulfe | wc3 ftw |
| 00:23.11 | Sozer | im playing it as hard as possible right now |
| 00:23.16 | Sozer | until whenever it says NO! |
| 00:23.20 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 00:23.31 | Alpha_vst | I might have a alpha text of my map in a few :P |
| 00:23.40 | Sozer | lol |
| 00:23.40 | Vulfe | I need like |
| 00:23.42 | Vulfe | a week |
| 00:23.45 | Vulfe | to have a playable map |
| 00:23.46 | Sozer | we can still run the map tester right? |
| 00:23.47 | Vulfe | : ( |
| 00:23.54 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 00:23.56 | Alpha_vst | BETA ENDS |
| 00:23.58 | Alpha_vst | NO |
| 00:23.58 | Vulfe | it doesn't log into BNet |
| 00:24.07 | Alpha_vst | kidding |
| 00:24.16 | Alpha_vst | you can still test maps |
| 00:24.17 | Vulfe | Why is BattleCraft so popular |
| 00:24.19 | Sozer | but will it be pointless cause the release version wont be able to play beta maps? |
| 00:24.27 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 00:24.33 | Alpha_vst | why would it not |
| 00:24.37 | Vulfe | I doubt blizzard would shaft us that badly |
| 00:24.38 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 00:24.39 | TheLaughingMan | Does anyone know how to use a timer but in line ms or something smaller then a second |
| 00:24.49 | Sozer | well they are going to make tweeks from beta |
| 00:24.51 | Alpha_vst | reals? |
| 00:24.59 | Vulfe | Timers use reals in the first place, don't they? |
| 00:25.03 | Alpha_vst | oh |
| 00:25.08 | TheLaughingMan | But they have a precision of 1 second |
| 00:25.12 | Vulfe | Oh. |
| 00:25.12 | Sozer | also the release version of the editor will have significantly more variables to modify |
| 00:25.20 | Vulfe | You'd have to make your own timer |
| 00:25.22 | Sozer | some of which could interfere with the currentones |
| 00:25.26 | Vulfe | with a variable |
| 00:25.28 | Alpha_vst | not really |
| 00:25.33 | Sozer | ok |
| 00:25.36 | Sozer | well that y im askin |
| 00:25.41 | Sozer | cause i dk |
| 00:25.54 | Alpha_vst | whats in the editor is what will be in release |
| 00:25.56 | Vulfe | The game will be back in beta before release |
| 00:25.58 | Vulfe | just saying |
| 00:26.01 | Alpha_vst | plus all the shit for the single player |
| 00:26.06 | Alpha_vst | and the missing links we have now |
| 00:26.12 | Vulfe | Can't wait for those single-player models |
| 00:26.15 | Vulfe | actors, really |
| 00:26.16 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 00:26.23 | Vulfe | I'll play through the single-player |
| 00:26.26 | Vulfe | just to find good ones |
| 00:26.26 | Vulfe | XD |
| 00:26.32 | Sozer | i cant wait for my pants to come off the day of its release |
| 00:26.33 | Sozer | i mean |
| 00:26.36 | Sozer | cant wait to play it |
| 00:29.25 | Alpha_vst | woah |
| 00:29.40 | slightlyrandom | We need some more strange unit models |
| 00:29.51 | slightlyrandom | a TD with just random Zerg units isn't a real TD |
| 00:30.20 | slightlyrandom | Anyone else feel like taking a 15 min break to playtest ma map? |
| 00:30.35 | slightlyrandom | Not localized, you'll have to do that yourself :P |
| 00:34.52 | Alpha_vst | sweet |
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| 00:35.05 | Alpha_vst | are you us? |
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| 00:35.40 | alp82 | hi |
| 00:35.59 | Alpha_vst | your cool |
| 00:36.02 | Alpha_vst | hi |
| 00:36.07 | Alpha_vst | im kidding your not |
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| 00:37.24 | alp82 | i'm curious, is there a way to easily change the color of a model? i have a protoss beacon on my map, which is always teal. i want to be able to change it to any color i want |
| 00:37.48 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 00:37.58 | Alpha_vst | alp82 onyl way is to send a actor message |
| 00:38.16 | Alpha_vst | or do it for all units in events + in the data editor |
| 00:38.47 | Alpha_vst | or you could change the actual text file and import it |
| 00:38.51 | Alpha_vst | texture |
| 00:39.06 | Alpha_vst | i think that covers it |
| 00:39.34 | alp82 | ok let me recall that |
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| 00:39.44 | alp82 | which actor message, model swap? |
| 00:39.49 | Alpha_vst | color |
| 00:39.56 | Alpha_vst | or sorry |
| 00:39.58 | Alpha_vst | tint |
| 00:40.33 | alp82 | whats the difference between tint color and tint color local? |
| 00:40.40 | heysparky | starkness |
| 00:40.42 | Alpha_vst | one works and the other doesnt? |
| 00:40.46 | Alpha_vst | idono |
| 00:40.48 | alp82 | heh |
| 00:40.58 | heysparky | they both work, local actually tints |
| 00:41.09 | Alpha_vst | thats what i mean |
| 00:41.10 | heysparky | the other obliterates the color |
| 00:41.23 | heysparky | and makes the unit ALL that color |
| 00:41.28 | Alpha_vst | dont be smarter than me |
| 00:41.29 | heysparky | sorta cool looking |
| 00:41.33 | heysparky | but pretty undesireable |
| 00:41.40 | heysparky | it's inevitable Alpha |
| 00:41.44 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 00:41.47 | heysparky | lol |
| 00:41.58 | alp82 | ok thanks, i'll try that |
| 00:41.58 | heysparky | awww |
| 00:42.25 | Alpha_vst | so lol |
| 00:42.32 | Alpha_vst | i found a new bug |
| 00:42.36 | Alpha_vst | with my map |
| 00:42.49 | Alpha_vst | to many units and my walls disappear... |
| 00:42.51 | Alpha_vst | wtf is that |
| 00:42.53 | Alpha_vst | WTF |
| 00:43.15 | heysparky | weird |
| 00:43.16 | Alpha_vst | well they disappear on the mini map |
| 00:43.26 | slightlyrandom | Hey, I changed a roach into a frost ball using Tint |
| 00:43.35 | Alpha_vst | AWESOME |
| 00:43.54 | Alpha_vst | but i got my game working |
| 00:43.57 | Alpha_vst | for the most part |
| 00:43.59 | slightlyrandom | AWESOME |
| 00:44.00 | Alpha_vst | its getting there |
| 00:44.17 | Alpha_vst | the zombies take points and shit |
| 00:44.27 | Alpha_vst | and points get added to the game |
| 00:44.33 | Alpha_vst | and its awesome |
| 00:44.56 | slightlyrandom | neat |
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| 00:48.51 | Alpha_vst | zombies are to smart though :P |
| 00:49.05 | Alpha_vst | they need to be more mindless |
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| 00:50.26 | Alpha_vst | and i still have some inital rare spawning bugs :( |
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| 00:52.45 | TheLaughingMan | So wait isn't accurate enough |
| 00:53.35 | Alpha_vst | why not? |
| 00:53.55 | Alpha_vst | are you waiting for a trigger or for a time limit? |
| 00:54.41 | TheLaughingMan | Just trying to measure how fast it takes to execute some code |
| 00:55.26 | TheLaughingMan | I tell it to wait 0.1 seconds and it ends up waiting ~0.06 seconds |
| 00:56.01 | Alpha_vst | cant you camp it? |
| 00:56.06 | Alpha_vst | clamp |
| 00:56.08 | Alpha_vst | maybe |
| 00:56.14 | TheLaughingMan | clamp? |
| 00:56.23 | Alpha_vst | yeah its a math thing |
| 00:56.36 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 00:56.48 | Alpha_vst | nm |
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| 00:59.29 | alp82 | i'm new to map editing, so i am first trying to make a chess map |
| 00:59.36 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 00:59.52 | Alpha_vst | start with something simple |
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| 01:00.02 | Alpha_vst | and no chess is not simple |
| 01:00.08 | alp82 | its working quite well so far |
| 01:00.29 | heysparky | chess is only simple if you don't have to make the ai |
| 01:00.32 | alp82 | still need castling, promote of pawns |
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| 01:00.37 | alp82 | i dont make an ai |
| 01:00.46 | alp82 | its hotseat or for 2 players |
| 01:01.02 | Razernok | anyone know why the item in Game UI Data for Default SC2 UI Settings doesn't override when i change stuff in it? |
| 01:01.31 | heysparky | i don't know ui stuff |
| 01:01.35 | Alpha_vst | because you need to restart sc2 |
| 01:01.43 | Alpha_vst | if you dont close teh test window |
| 01:01.46 | Razernok | heysparky: its data editor stuff |
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| 01:02.05 | Razernok | i made the change before i ever opened sc2 |
| 01:02.08 | heysparky | ah, well, I don't know data except what I've messed with :) |
| 01:02.22 | Alpha_vst | HA I KNOW SOME DATA TAKE THAT SPARKY :D |
| 01:02.29 | heysparky | lol |
| 01:03.10 | Alpha_vst | balancing these units is hard :P |
| 01:03.26 | Alpha_vst | and its 2 units |
| 01:03.28 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 01:03.37 | Vulfe | Where are the parabolic arc parameters for a weapon |
| 01:03.39 | Vulfe | GRAAAAH |
| 01:03.44 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 01:03.44 | Vulfe | CANNOT FIND |
| 01:03.54 | Alpha_vst | parawhata |
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| 01:04.04 | Vulfe | I want to give this weapon arc |
| 01:04.07 | Vulfe | there's like |
| 01:04.10 | Alpha_vst | its called arc |
| 01:04.11 | Vulfe | a movement phasey thing |
| 01:04.12 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 01:04.15 | pirate | rar |
| 01:04.18 | Vulfe | that one doesn't work |
| 01:04.21 | Vulfe | i think |
| 01:04.22 | Razernok | i just tried closing both sc2 and ge and it still won't override the stuff i changed |
| 01:04.27 | Alpha_vst | search radius |
| 01:05.32 | Razernok | so no one will help i see |
| 01:05.46 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 01:05.49 | heysparky | no one knows Martul |
| 01:06.12 | Alpha_vst | if it didnt work you did it wrong |
| 01:06.46 | Razernok | Alpha_vst: i made the change BEFORE i opened sc2, saved, then did test map |
| 01:06.52 | Razernok | change didn't take |
| 01:06.58 | Alpha_vst | what did you change |
| 01:07.11 | Razernok | loading screen help |
| 01:07.14 | heysparky | It's possible it won't work... now what? |
| 01:08.57 | Alpha_vst | lol do you show the help part on your loading screeeN |
| 01:09.30 | heysparky | Why not use the interface within the editor to change help? |
| 01:10.03 | heysparky | it's possible teh change got overwritten |
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| 01:10.08 | heysparky | not that I have any idea |
| 01:10.30 | heysparky | you're right alpha, it feels good to just toss stuff out there |
| 01:10.35 | Alpha_vst | it does |
| 01:10.57 | Alpha_vst | most of the time its helpful |
| 01:11.02 | Alpha_vst | but most of the time its not |
| 01:11.05 | Alpha_vst | so yeah |
| 01:11.21 | Alpha_vst | my god this is taking to long |
| 01:11.22 | heysparky | well, I find that sometimes someone who DOES no will jump in if they see a conversation going off into the weeds |
| 01:11.23 | heysparky | :) |
| 01:11.29 | heysparky | no = know |
| 01:11.36 | heysparky | stinking homophones |
| 01:11.36 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 01:12.29 | Alpha_vst | I have gay friends thank you very much 0.o |
| 01:13.09 | heysparky | get a dictionary, goofus |
| 01:13.14 | heysparky | :P |
| 01:13.17 | Razernok | The Default SC2 UI Settings is for multiple help items |
| 01:14.48 | Alpha_vst | lol oh yeah i knew that 0.o |
| 01:15.08 | Alpha_vst | YEAH it is whats showing when you load a map? |
| 01:15.14 | heysparky | yeah, I wondered about how to cycle through multiple hints like they o |
| 01:15.17 | heysparky | do |
| 01:15.31 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 01:15.39 | Alpha_vst | ok so it took me 16 min to take one point |
| 01:15.41 | Alpha_vst | FUCK ME |
| 01:15.46 | fatal5101 | you making risk?! |
| 01:15.48 | fatal5101 | zombie style |
| 01:15.56 | Alpha_vst | sorta not really |
| 01:16.00 | Alpha_vst | kinda |
| 01:16.01 | fatal5101 | well you should |
| 01:16.02 | Alpha_vst | i guess |
| 01:16.04 | fatal5101 | risk is awesome |
| 01:16.13 | fatal5101 | 2 minutes a point\ |
| 01:16.21 | Alpha_vst | its a caputre defend and control type map |
| 01:16.26 | fatal5101 | how many points |
| 01:16.31 | Alpha_vst | up to 100 |
| 01:16.34 | Alpha_vst | its random |
| 01:16.35 | fatal5101 | 2 minutes |
| 01:16.52 | Alpha_vst | yeah i have to get the balance right |
| 01:16.57 | fatal5101 | i dont want to play your map for 16 hours |
| 01:17.07 | Alpha_vst | you wotn last that long |
| 01:17.14 | fatal5101 | your right |
| 01:17.18 | fatal5101 | i would have quit after an hour |
| 01:17.25 | Alpha_vst | lol so the thing is |
| 01:17.35 | Alpha_vst | i took the 2nd point in 3 min |
| 01:17.51 | fatal5101 | ~chucknorris |
| 01:18.02 | purl | Chuck Norris moves at two speeds: Walk and kill. |
| 01:18.11 | fatal5101 | that was pretty slow of you purl |
| 01:18.15 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:18.29 | fatal5101 | ~where chucknorris |
| 01:18.30 | purl | Chuck Norris moves at two speeds: Walk and kill. |
| 01:18.42 | fatal5101 | don't like that answer purl |
| 01:18.55 | fatal5101 | purl is not cool. |
| 01:19.03 | fatal5101 | ~purl |
| 01:19.03 | purl | somebody said purl was a piece of very bad coding. |
| 01:19.09 | fatal5101 | damn right i did |
| 01:19.56 | fatal5101 | ~where purl |
| 01:19.56 | purl | hmm... purl is a piece of very bad coding. |
| 01:19.56 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 01:20.10 | fatal5101 | purl does not like me anymore |
| 01:20.48 | Ignorance | sup |
| 01:20.52 | fatal5101 | sup dawg |
| 01:20.59 | fatal5101 | WORD! |
| 01:21.05 | fatal5101 | ^ |
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| 01:23.08 | fatal5101 | why must they take down the beta |
| 01:23.46 | fatal5101 | they should buy more servers. then make all the new changes on them |
| 01:23.55 | fatal5101 | while keeping these running. THEN switch them over |
| 01:24.29 | Ignorance | fatal5101, we're playing for them to collect data |
| 01:26.19 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 01:26.21 | Alpha_vst | for reals |
| 01:27.56 | Vulfe | for |
| 01:27.57 | Vulfe | reals |
| 01:28.08 | Alpha_vst | what cant my reals be if |
| 01:28.09 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 01:28.17 | Vulfe | what? |
| 01:28.17 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 01:28.21 | Alpha_vst | idono |
| 01:28.27 | Vulfe | lol |
| 01:28.34 | AsaPhelps | I wonder if blizzard ever goes through chat logs and sees how many people cyber |
| 01:28.48 | AsaPhelps | as part of their data |
| 01:29.11 | pirate | wat |
| 01:29.12 | arbitrage | anyone here go to georgia tech |
| 01:30.44 | Dustin | Damnit I want to play Crush Commander |
| 01:30.47 | Dustin | But I cant find it :( |
| 01:30.57 | heysparky | without using an event to detect it, how can I grab the unit created by a MorphTo? |
| 01:31.07 | heysparky | the specific unit |
| 01:31.40 | alp82 | maybe put it in a unit group |
| 01:32.39 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 01:32.49 | heysparky | well, I'm working off of larvae, and when the larvae 'dies' it gets removed from teh group |
| 01:32.59 | heysparky | code paste incoming |
| 01:33.47 | heysparky | http://pastebin.com/cqT3mf1a |
| 01:33.48 | slightlyrandom | Pick 1 unit closets to point of ability used and add to group |
| 01:34.04 | heysparky | yeah... that worked great for you, dinnit? ;) |
| 01:34.10 | slightlyrandom | Because, as my woes have clearly demonstrated, that piece of shit is awesome at picking the right, yeah |
| 01:34.15 | heysparky | LOL |
| 01:34.39 | heysparky | also, that'd require an event |
| 01:35.46 | slightlyrandom | Adding the egg to the group isnt enough, is it ? |
| 01:36.13 | heysparky | in that script I can only detect the larva |
| 01:36.36 | heysparky | it's SUPPOSED to carry the unit info by reference |
| 01:36.47 | slightlyrandom | Well, you could easily tell it to pick each egg in the area |
| 01:36.58 | heysparky | yeah, that might work |
| 01:37.16 | Alpha_vst | heysparky can you add closest unit to point of the dead unit |
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| 01:37.34 | Alpha_vst | so what ever created is added to a group |
| 01:38.10 | Motive | If anyone here's feeling slightly generous, has the new Counter-Strike source beta, and wants to help me w/ something real quick, do PM me. |
| 01:38.31 | Dustin | new counter strike source beta what? |
| 01:39.16 | Motive | Yeah |
| 01:39.24 | Motive | uses the latest source engine, and works on Macs (ie. me) |
| 01:39.32 | Motive | I need to steal client.dylib from someone. xD |
| 01:39.44 | Dustin | So the current CS: Source uses an old Source version? |
| 01:39.58 | Motive | The current CS: Source uses the source engine version that was out when CS: Source came out |
| 01:40.43 | Dustin | So what all is going to be updated |
| 01:40.51 | Motive | New achievements or something |
| 01:40.52 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:40.54 | Motive | nothing really gamechanging. |
| 01:40.58 | Motive | It works on Macs, basically. |
| 01:40.58 | Motive | Lol |
| 01:42.22 | heysparky | bah... time for a break |
| 01:42.29 | heysparky | brain fuzzy |
| 01:42.35 | heysparky | see you cats later |
| 01:42.42 | Alpha_vst | have fun saprky |
| 01:46.09 | slightlyrandom | ! |
| 01:46.20 | slightlyrandom | sod, when did it get this late |
| 01:47.54 | slightlyrandom | I dont have a win condition |
| 01:48.01 | slightlyrandom | Is it likely I will need one? |
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| 01:48.24 | Armentia | Nah, they can play indefinitely |
| 01:48.29 | Armentia | Or until you decide to put one in |
| 01:48.36 | slightlyrandom | It'd be a really poor game |
| 01:48.56 | slightlyrandom | Nothing much happens after the last bunch of mobs gets blown up |
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| 01:57.27 | Vulfe | Where do I change the original height of a projectile that my unit shoots? |
| 01:59.16 | Alpha_vst | you dont :P |
| 01:59.19 | Alpha_vst | idono |
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| 02:05.09 | Alpha_vst | rawr |
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| 02:07.43 | Alpha_vst | is it posible to get rid of the control groups? |
| 02:09.27 | Alpha_vst | the icons at least? |
| 02:10.33 | slightlyrandom | Hide the UI |
| 02:12.15 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 02:12.20 | Sozer | sex |
| 02:12.27 | Alpha_vst | i wish |
| 02:12.36 | slightlyrandom | I am out |
| 02:12.41 | Sozer | of sex? |
| 02:13.15 | slightlyrandom | :( |
| 02:13.24 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 02:19.16 | alp82 | yay |
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| 02:19.47 | alp82 | now the pieces cant move if king is in check and they cant prevent check mate |
| 02:19.55 | alp82 | that was probably the hardest part |
| 02:20.30 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 02:20.39 | slightlyrandom | Seems you've set yourself quite a task there |
| 02:21.02 | alp82 | ye, didnt assume it would be so much work |
| 02:21.07 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 02:21.19 | slightlyrandom | It wouldnt be, if you allowed players to make mistakes |
| 02:21.27 | alp82 | had to start from the scratch after finding out what structs and presets are ^^^ |
| 02:21.39 | alp82 | yes, but that would be pointless in my opinion |
| 02:21.44 | slightlyrandom | Indeed |
| 02:21.45 | allenmelon | crazy sc2 maps are being made! |
| 02:22.01 | slightlyrandom | I havent ventured into structs and presets yet |
| 02:22.04 | allenmelon | sc2 is gonna be like a million games in one |
| 02:22.08 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 02:22.11 | slightlyrandom | Indeed |
| 02:22.14 | Vulfe | two million games in one |
| 02:22.21 | allenmelon | 6billion |
| 02:22.24 | allenmelon | one for each person |
| 02:22.25 | allenmelon | lol |
| 02:22.32 | Vulfe | 9 billion and one |
| 02:22.37 | Vulfe | it's over nine thousand thousand thousand |
| 02:22.41 | alp82 | structs and presets are very useful if you have large amounts of data which need to be organized |
| 02:22.51 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I dont really yet |
| 02:22.58 | slightlyrandom | For some values of large |
| 02:23.05 | alp82 | i have another problem though |
| 02:23.18 | slightlyrandom | Wussat |
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| 02:23.29 | alp82 | i made the protoss knight = stalker, because he can blink to his target |
| 02:23.39 | alp82 | but the blink spell has slightly too less range |
| 02:23.51 | Alpha_vst | change the range |
| 02:23.53 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 02:23.58 | alp82 | i tried to increase the range in the data editor, but that range seemed to be the maximum |
| 02:24.01 | bifuu | Have no fear |
| 02:24.03 | bifuu | Bifuu is here! |
| 02:24.07 | Alpha_vst | BIFUU!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:24.10 | alp82 | probably i looked at the wrong place |
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| 02:24.25 | slightlyrandom | Just keep looking :P |
| 02:24.34 | Alpha_vst | looking is good |
| 02:24.34 | alp82 | didnt found anything else |
| 02:24.41 | slightlyrandom | If you check the Ability and what things are linked to it |
| 02:24.46 | alp82 | looked at blink -> stats -> range |
| 02:24.48 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mauls-spiral-turret-defense/. Maul's Spiral Turret Defense. Maul2 (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 02:25.01 | alp82 | and there i can enter a range value between 0 and 500 |
| 02:25.09 | alp82 | and 500 is already entered |
| 02:25.10 | Alpha_vst | so yeah game ui help tips get overwritten :( |
| 02:25.49 | alp82 | any ideas? |
| 02:26.13 | Alpha_vst | alp82 look in the effects |
| 02:26.20 | Alpha_vst | for stalker blink |
| 02:26.24 | Alpha_vst | its range is 8 |
| 02:26.27 | Alpha_vst | and thats what its based on |
| 02:27.09 | bifuu | ok people i need an idea of something to do for a map |
| 02:28.25 | Alpha_vst | what kinda map |
| 02:28.39 | alp82 | Alpha_vst ok i'm at stalker -> abilities -> blink -> effects. but there is only one row with "###id###" |
| 02:29.02 | Alpha_vst | make sure your not viewing raw data |
| 02:29.05 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 02:29.26 | alp82 | ah i looked at abilities, not effects |
| 02:29.29 | alp82 | found it, thank you |
| 02:29.45 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:29.50 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 02:29.54 | bifuu | Alpha_vst: thats what i need suggestions for lol |
| 02:30.19 | alp82 | Bifuu: be creative! |
| 02:30.33 | alp82 | what did you so far? |
| 02:30.45 | Alpha_vst | i have a few ideas but i couldnt explain them :P |
| 02:31.19 | Bifuu | ill prolly just join a team or something |
| 02:31.30 | Alpha_vst | teams are for noobs |
| 02:31.31 | Bifuu | im sure someone could use my "1337" skillz |
| 02:31.40 | Bifuu | Teasm are for people that arnt creative |
| 02:31.45 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 02:31.48 | Alpha_vst | awwwww |
| 02:32.13 | Bifuu | im not a visualizer at most things but i can make shit work |
| 02:32.38 | Alpha_vst | making shit work is good |
| 02:33.06 | Bifuu | i do have an idea |
| 02:33.10 | Bifuu | i just cant do it til launch |
| 02:33.20 | Bifuu | needs moar doodads and shiz |
| 02:33.44 | Alpha_vst | work on the basics? |
| 02:33.48 | Bifuu | Holy fucking shit i had an idea |
| 02:33.57 | Alpha_vst | HOLY SHIT AN IDEA |
| 02:34.02 | Bifuu | basics for that map are 100% complete |
| 02:34.07 | pirate | so is it possible to save a unit's inventory in a bank or something? |
| 02:34.14 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 02:34.30 | pirate | is it not overly complicated? |
| 02:34.42 | Alpha_vst | neo has a good hero saving system on sc2mapster |
| 02:34.47 | pirate | kk |
| 02:34.49 | pirate | will look |
| 02:37.50 | slightlyrandom | Bifuu, I was thinking about making a map ala Skibby's TD |
| 02:37.58 | slightlyrandom | Maybe with a bith more emphasis on the minigames than the TD |
| 02:38.02 | slightlyrandom | bit* |
| 02:38.30 | Alpha_vst | so you want to make a mini game game |
| 02:38.35 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I guess |
| 02:38.41 | slightlyrandom | Basically Mario Party in SC2 |
| 02:38.47 | Alpha_vst | with some random turret defence in it |
| 02:38.49 | slightlyrandom | With or without the board thing |
| 02:38.59 | slightlyrandom | Could make the TD just another minigame |
| 02:39.01 | Bifuu | never played skibbys |
| 02:39.04 | Alpha_vst | mario party like game would be amazing |
| 02:39.05 | slightlyrandom | Or not include it at all |
| 02:39.07 | slightlyrandom | Who knows! |
| 02:39.23 | slightlyrandom | Skibby is a TD where after each round, you're ported to a random minigame and compete for extra cash |
| 02:39.35 | Alpha_vst | you could save board postions in a map and load other maps for the mini game |
| 02:39.39 | slightlyrandom | Dodge the Flamestrike, Whack the Rats, collect the coins |
| 02:39.40 | slightlyrandom | all that shit |
| 02:39.41 | Alpha_vst | store all teh maps in the map |
| 02:39.43 | Alpha_vst | and bam |
| 02:40.02 | slightlyrandom | Was contemplating making a game all about minigames |
| 02:40.18 | slightlyrandom | Play X (5-20) games at random, with a leaderboard |
| 02:40.44 | Bifuu | lol sounds interesting |
| 02:40.51 | wacko|coding | IT CAN BE DONE!!!! |
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| 02:40.56 | slightlyrandom | It'd probably be fucking work intensive though |
| 02:41.08 | slightlyrandom | Seeing how you have to make 10-20 games all in one game :S |
| 02:41.14 | Bifuu | not really |
| 02:41.16 | Alpha_vst | you can load maps |
| 02:41.21 | Alpha_vst | that are the mini games |
| 02:41.27 | slightlyrandom | No, I mean you have to write and make 20 games |
| 02:41.27 | Alpha_vst | and go back to the map |
| 02:41.31 | wacko|coding | if they were campaign |
| 02:41.32 | Bifuu | but that = loading screen |
| 02:41.34 | Bifuu | = lame |
| 02:41.40 | Alpha_vst | you can preload |
| 02:41.42 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 02:41.49 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, you just split the map into parts |
| 02:41.57 | Bifuu | you can? O.o |
| 02:41.58 | slightlyrandom | Then pan the camera and restrict the boundaries |
| 02:42.01 | Alpha_vst | yeah you can |
| 02:42.12 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 02:42.21 | wacko|coding | How do you do it Alpha_vst? |
| 02:42.50 | slightlyrandom | You can change the available area on the map on the fly |
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| 02:43.48 | slightlyrandom | But yeah, I had something like that in mind, would be neat because you could explore all sorts of areas of the editor |
| 02:44.07 | Alpha_vst | my game expands the map area |
| 02:44.08 | wacko|coding | but your just hiding things on the map.. your not really loading a sep map |
| 02:44.26 | Alpha_vst | i have not looked into but im sure you can load a map |
| 02:44.42 | FireryRage | WC3 had a few maps like that |
| 02:44.43 | Alpha_vst | you can preload anything i bleieve |
| 02:45.16 | wacko|coding | I do not think you can load from one map to the next in am multiplayer game |
| 02:45.33 | Alpha_vst | you can they said you would be able to |
| 02:46.19 | wacko|coding | who said that ? Maybe in the future by not at the launch of the game |
| 02:46.20 | FireryRage | hrm... do you have a quote on that? |
| 02:47.04 | slightlyrandom | Well, I am off |
| 02:47.23 | slightlyrandom | THIS is my bed time |
| 02:48.13 | slightlyrandom | Actually |
| 02:48.33 | slightlyrandom | Can anyone tell me how that Maul TD managed to become a 6mb download ? |
| 02:49.08 | wacko|coding | custom images, sound, art ? |
| 02:49.27 | slightlyrandom | The Overview thing doesnt list those ? |
| 02:49.28 | Alpha_vst | maul td? |
| 02:49.40 | wacko|coding | Alpha_vst what function would you call to load this other map in a multiplayer player game ? |
| 02:49.44 | slightlyrandom | ah |
| 02:49.49 | Alpha_vst | load next map |
| 02:49.51 | Alpha_vst | ... |
| 02:49.57 | wacko|coding | does not work in mutliplayer games |
| 02:50.00 | slightlyrandom | a 4mb picture, a 1mb mp3 and a 2mb mp3 |
| 02:50.05 | Alpha_vst | sorry |
| 02:50.18 | Alpha_vst | Game - Set the next map to Map File |
| 02:50.27 | wacko|coding | yea does not work in mutliplayer games |
| 02:50.37 | Alpha_vst | it might not yet but i know they said you would finnaly be able to do it |
| 02:50.50 | Alpha_vst | i hope they actually do it this time |
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| 02:51.06 | Alpha_vst | sc was suppose to be able to wc3 was suppose to be able to |
| 02:51.07 | wacko|coding | I am pretty sure it will not work for awhile |
| 02:51.44 | Alpha_vst | in one of there twitter chats or something they said something about it im sure |
| 02:51.50 | Alpha_vst | i just dont know where :P |
| 02:51.55 | wacko|coding | well its a little more work than just loading the next map... because the games are hosted on Battle.net |
| 02:52.15 | FireryRage | I remember it supposed to work for WC3, and was sorely disappointed when it really didn't |
| 02:52.21 | FireryRage | so I remain skeptical now |
| 02:52.46 | wacko|coding | I am pretty sure they will add the support at some point but just not at the launch of the game |
| 02:53.15 | Pandepic | it's not all that much work really |
| 02:53.20 | FireryRage | now, would it load the map of all players, or can different players be on separate maps? I'm assuming the former |
| 02:53.28 | Pandepic | you just put people into the queue for the next map |
| 02:53.37 | wacko|coding | Pandepic its a little more work than that |
| 02:53.37 | Pandepic | bnet already handles that stuff |
| 02:53.45 | wacko|coding | it really doesn't |
| 02:53.48 | Pandepic | it does lol |
| 02:53.54 | wacko|coding | it does not |
| 02:53.55 | Pandepic | when you join or create a custom game |
| 02:53.59 | FireryRage | there's more than that, one would assume there would be data to transfer between the two |
| 02:54.07 | wacko|coding | yea, you do not know what goes on in order for that to work |
| 02:54.13 | Pandepic | yes, I do =) |
| 02:54.18 | wacko|coding | I do not think you do |
| 02:54.27 | FireryRage | otherwise, if there weren't, there really wouldn't be any need to go from one map to the next |
| 02:54.37 | wacko|coding | if it were that easy they would have supported it |
| 02:54.41 | Pandepic | lol |
| 02:54.51 | Pandepic | game developers don't support things based on how hard it is to implement |
| 02:55.09 | FireryRage | what I'd like to know, is if maps would be able to save data to be used between plays |
| 02:55.16 | Pandepic | they implement whatever they have in their design documentation |
| 02:55.21 | wacko|coding | Well then you do not know how Battle.net works then |
| 02:55.23 | wacko|coding | HAHAHA |
| 02:55.25 | wacko|coding | haha |
| 02:55.27 | wacko|coding | OMG |
| 02:55.36 | wacko|coding | a design document LOL |
| 02:55.40 | wacko|coding | is there such a thing LOL |
| 02:55.44 | Pandepic | yes... |
| 02:55.49 | wacko|coding | lol |
| 02:55.50 | wacko|coding | haha |
| 02:55.57 | DarkPrince | W T F!!! |
| 02:56.08 | DarkPrince | I join a game, and the keyboard is not responsive at all... >_> |
| 02:56.11 | FireryRage | pandepic, what's your expertise on the matter? |
| 02:56.17 | wacko|coding | yea no kidding |
| 02:56.24 | DarkPrince | No scroll, no hotkeys, nothing. >.> |
| 02:56.57 | Pandepic | lol, I've been an indie developer for quite a long time and I have friends that work in the game industry |
| 02:57.32 | Alpha_vst | FUCK ME |
| 02:57.35 | wacko|coding | I work in the game industry and work on RTS games.. and so I know its not as easy as you say it is |
| 02:57.42 | Alpha_vst | my pop up is inviable |
| 02:57.48 | Alpha_vst | i have not saved in a while |
| 02:57.49 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 02:57.52 | Pandepic | you work in the game industry, and don't think there is design documentation? |
| 02:57.57 | Alpha_vst | i cant close it to save |
| 02:57.59 | wacko|coding | lol |
| 02:58.08 | wacko|coding | I have never seen one on any of the titles I have worked on |
| 02:58.26 | Pandepic | you think game developers just make it up as they go along? lol |
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| 02:58.39 | Alpha_vst | of course they do |
| 02:58.46 | Alpha_vst | they dont have meetings for hours on end either |
| 02:58.54 | Pandepic | of course |
| 02:58.58 | wacko|coding | Here again as a software engineer in that industry.. I have never heard the term Design document used when they are telling me what to do |
| 02:59.13 | wacko|coding | nor have i seen one |
| 02:59.22 | wacko|coding | on any of the titles I have worked on |
| 02:59.24 | Pandepic | well, perhaps because you're not a designer =) |
| 02:59.32 | Alpha_vst | because you have not seen it means they dont have one makes sense |
| 02:59.34 | wacko|coding | I work with them everyday :P |
| 02:59.43 | Pandepic | lol do you really think they just make it up? |
| 02:59.49 | wacko|coding | well he stated that programmers do what the design doc says |
| 02:59.54 | wacko|coding | and I am saying that is not true |
| 03:00.05 | Pandepic | it depends on how the team is run |
| 03:00.22 | Pandepic | more likely whoever decides what the programmers are doing is following the documentation |
| 03:00.32 | wacko|coding | I do not think so |
| 03:00.38 | alp82 | how can i change the movement speed of burrowed roaches? |
| 03:00.44 | Alpha_vst | you dont |
| 03:00.46 | wacko|coding | in my companies case that does not seem to be true |
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| 03:00.55 | Pandepic | your company just makes things up as they go along? |
| 03:01.00 | Alpha_vst | change the unti burrowed roach movement speed |
| 03:01.01 | wacko|coding | yea |
| 03:01.02 | Alpha_vst | easy huh? |
| 03:01.18 | wacko|coding | it takes them like 7 years to make the game :P |
| 03:01.21 | Pandepic | umm... wow lol |
| 03:01.32 | Pandepic | so even if you actually are right about your company which is doubtful |
| 03:01.38 | wacko|coding | lol |
| 03:01.50 | Pandepic | do you think that is the way that big companies like blizzard operate? |
| 03:01.52 | alp82 | hm the movement speeds default of roach burrowed is 0.0 |
| 03:01.54 | wacko|coding | yes I do |
| 03:01.55 | alp82 | that cant be true |
| 03:01.59 | Pandepic | when they have investors with millions of dollars |
| 03:02.05 | Pandepic | you think they are just making things up as they go? |
| 03:02.15 | wacko|coding | when it comes to Battle.net yes |
| 03:02.18 | Pandepic | lol |
| 03:02.51 | Pandepic | well this is the most entertaining conversation I've had all week =P |
| 03:02.59 | Alpha_vst | alph it is true |
| 03:03.04 | Alpha_vst | they get an ability upgrade |
| 03:03.10 | Alpha_vst | which adds movement |
| 03:03.16 | Alpha_vst | normally they cant move |
| 03:03.35 | Alpha_vst | know your game mechanics :D |
| 03:04.02 | Alpha_vst | if you dont care about the upgrade give it movement speed |
| 03:04.04 | Pandepic | oh it's ok Alpha, wacko wrote 90% of the SC2 game server |
| 03:04.21 | Alpha_vst | im sure he did |
| 03:04.27 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 03:04.30 | Pandepic | =D |
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| 03:05.20 | Alpha_vst | no real company does anything with out a thought out plan |
| 03:05.27 | Alpha_vst | and that requires meetings |
| 03:05.35 | wacko|coding | okay sure |
| 03:05.37 | Alpha_vst | and all that shit gets written down |
| 03:05.37 | wacko|coding | your right |
| 03:05.41 | fatal5101 | oh damn |
| 03:05.41 | wacko|coding | okay |
| 03:05.42 | wacko|coding | sure |
| 03:05.44 | fatal5101 | he is talking shit about you |
| 03:05.46 | fatal5101 | you gonna take that |
| 03:05.49 | alp82 | thanks Alpha_vst you are a great help |
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| 03:05.53 | fatal5101 | FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! |
| 03:05.54 | alp82 | i have another question :D |
| 03:05.55 | Alpha_vst | wlecome |
| 03:06.08 | alp82 | how can i tell a reaper to jump to its target even though there is no cliff? |
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| 03:06.15 | Pandepic | lol 90% of the game server, what a claim =P |
| 03:06.27 | fatal5101 | Need a bunch of people to come test my map |
| 03:06.29 | Alpha_vst | hey get this you know the colectors edition that comes with the book of sketches and shit |
| 03:06.29 | wacko|coding | lol |
| 03:06.30 | fatal5101 | whos in? |
| 03:06.35 | Alpha_vst | where do you think they get that shit |
| 03:06.41 | Alpha_vst | from planning and ideas |
| 03:06.43 | Alpha_vst | and meetings |
| 03:06.44 | wacko|coding | LOL |
| 03:06.47 | wacko|coding | you think so |
| 03:07.00 | Alpha_vst | go the fuck away martul |
| 03:07.09 | wacko|coding | lol |
| 03:07.14 | Pandepic | I think at this point it's just trolling =P |
| 03:07.19 | fatal5101 | ~razernok |
| 03:07.20 | wacko|coding | lol |
| 03:08.11 | Alpha_vst | i have no idea alp82 you might want to look at the wasd control scripts that include a jump function |
| 03:08.33 | fatal5101 | who wants to come map test?! |
| 03:08.39 | alp82 | Alpha_vst that sounds complicated |
| 03:08.47 | alp82 | fatal5101 what kind of map is that? |
| 03:08.53 | Pandepic | so anyway, hopefully blizzard really do plan for map switching to work in multiplayer |
| 03:08.53 | fatal5101 | line tower wars... |
| 03:09.07 | Pandepic | because imo they could just put you into the regular custom game queue that you already join to get into games |
| 03:09.37 | FireryRage | just load up the code from after the timer |
| 03:09.43 | FireryRage | you have the players, after all |
| 03:10.32 | fatal5101 | i hate you all |
| 03:10.43 | FireryRage | love ya too |
| 03:11.21 | Pandepic | fatal |
| 03:11.35 | fatal5101 | Pandepic |
| 03:11.35 | Pandepic | is it on the US server? |
| 03:11.37 | fatal5101 | yes |
| 03:11.40 | fatal5101 | US SERVER!!! |
| 03:11.41 | Alpha_vst | fine |
| 03:11.43 | Pandepic | ok, I'll test with you |
| 03:11.43 | fatal5101 | come test my map |
| 03:11.50 | Pandepic | but |
| 03:11.55 | Pandepic | I want cookies in payment |
| 03:12.02 | Pandepic | and not just any cookies |
| 03:12.13 | Pandepic | those huge ones with chocolate chips |
| 03:12.29 | Alpha_vst | im testing one thing in my map and i will be on |
| 03:13.10 | AgentPaper | hum, by any chance does the guy who made Resurgence Base D come here? |
| 03:14.20 | Alpha_vst | did you add me? |
| 03:14.45 | Alpha_vst | fine i wont play your map |
| 03:14.47 | Pandepic | fatal, what's your email? |
| 03:14.54 | fatal5101 | shoosh510@gmail.com |
| 03:14.56 | fatal5101 | US server |
| 03:14.57 | fatal5101 | add me |
| 03:23.23 | Alpha_vst | FUCK YOU LOADING SCREEN |
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| 03:25.09 | Alpha_vst | my keyboard dont work |
| 03:25.10 | Alpha_vst | in game |
| 03:28.44 | fatal5101 | hi |
| 03:30.52 | Pandepic | Alpha |
| 03:30.58 | Pandepic | I think that's an SC2 bug, not a map one |
| 03:31.12 | Pandepic | to fix it I open the friend list and IM someone and then close it |
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| 03:31.16 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 03:31.21 | onetwo | k weird all day i thought irc was down |
| 03:31.24 | onetwo | firefox just wont let me join |
| 03:31.26 | Pandepic | I think it's a problem with the focus of your keyboard getting stuck in an IM window before the game or something |
| 03:31.27 | onetwo | it says cant connect |
| 03:31.42 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 03:31.44 | Pandepic | we just didn't want you here onetwo <3 |
| 03:31.45 | Alpha_vst | doesnt work |
| 03:31.50 | onetwo | im in with IE |
| 03:31.51 | onetwo | now... |
| 03:31.55 | Alpha_vst | im running thought the test game window though |
| 03:31.59 | Pandepic | oh |
| 03:32.00 | Alpha_vst | so it might be soemthing with that |
| 03:32.03 | onetwo | when does game close? |
| 03:32.06 | onetwo | tonight or tomorrow |
| 03:32.07 | Pandepic | it happens to me with the IM window sometimes |
| 03:32.17 | Alpha_vst | it happens randomly to me |
| 03:32.19 | Pandepic | tomorrow I think |
| 03:32.24 | Alpha_vst | i normally pound on my keybaord and fix it |
| 03:32.28 | Pandepic | haha |
| 03:32.35 | Pandepic | I hate it when it happens in a ladder game |
| 03:32.40 | Pandepic | I've played whole games with my mouse |
| 03:32.42 | Pandepic | because of it |
| 03:32.44 | Pandepic | not good =( |
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| 03:33.16 | Alpha_vst | lol ouch |
| 03:33.21 | fatal5101 | full of awesome |
| 03:33.28 | Pandepic | fatal |
| 03:33.33 | Pandepic | I don't like your map, you owned me |
| 03:33.36 | Pandepic | therefore it sucks |
| 03:33.39 | Pandepic | =D |
| 03:33.47 | Alpha_vst | lol all i could use was my mouse |
| 03:33.50 | Alpha_vst | so it was unfair |
| 03:33.52 | Alpha_vst | :( |
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| 03:34.01 | Pandepic | but seriously, it's pretty decent so far |
| 03:34.02 | fatal5101 | what do you mean? |
| 03:34.06 | Pandepic | should be good with more creeps and towers |
| 03:34.10 | fatal5101 | whats wrong with your keyboard |
| 03:34.24 | Pandepic | the game bugged out on him |
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| 03:34.31 | fatal5101 | bugged out how? |
| 03:35.47 | Pandepic | did you guys see Hex'd? |
| 03:35.53 | Pandepic | that map has potential |
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| 03:36.30 | Alpha_vst | yeah someone stole it |
| 03:36.33 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tactical-squad-battle-1-0/. Tactical Squad Battle 1.0. Revolution1 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 03:36.55 | Alpha_vst | acutally idono if they did but its a map on sc2maspter |
| 03:37.00 | Pandepic | oh |
| 03:37.11 | Alpha_vst | been out for a long time |
| 03:38.58 | Alpha_vst | i need to restart my editor :P |
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| 03:39.50 | Alpha_vst | it was doing crazy things |
| 03:40.04 | Pandepic | what was it doing? |
| 03:40.22 | Pandepic | I have to restart mine a lot |
| 03:40.59 | Alpha_vst | it was not showing the pop ups and such |
| 03:41.14 | Alpha_vst | and just visually freaking out |
| 03:41.29 | Alpha_vst | ive had it open since ive had my computer on |
| 03:41.31 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 03:41.44 | Alpha_vst | and i have not restarted in a few days |
| 03:45.30 | Alpha_vst | why is it so dead when im actually paying attention |
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| 03:50.34 | Fukle | Hey anyone know if there is a condition to check if a player is user controlled or computer controlled? |
| 03:50.54 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 03:51.03 | Fukle | What's it called. |
| 03:51.05 | Alpha_vst | try seaching for it |
| 03:51.11 | Fukle | I have been searching and can't find it. |
| 03:51.33 | Alpha_vst | saech for control |
| 03:51.36 | Alpha_vst | search |
| 03:51.39 | Fukle | k |
| 03:52.02 | Alpha_vst | logic thing to search for :P |
| 03:52.09 | Fukle | haha |
| 03:52.12 | Fukle | Found it. :) |
| 03:52.18 | Fukle | Guess I aint a logical thinker haha. |
| 03:52.24 | Fukle | Thanks man. |
| 03:52.56 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 03:54.47 | Wihl | HoN is such a happy game |
| 03:54.48 | Wihl | http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9199/honrageee.jpg |
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| 03:56.45 | pirate | why dont the sphere/cylander/cube units dont appear in game? |
| 03:56.57 | pirate | (grammarfail) |
| 03:57.12 | Fukle | Hon ftl |
| 03:57.13 | Wihl | I assume its because the actual model doesnt exist |
| 03:57.26 | Alpha_vst | but the model does |
| 03:57.28 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 03:57.29 | Wihl | if you mean the doodads that are just a purple sphere |
| 03:57.31 | Alpha_vst | or else it wouldnt show |
| 03:57.43 | pirate | no, i mean the cube/cylander/sphere/torus objects |
| 03:57.46 | Alpha_vst | no search the units |
| 03:57.55 | pirate | which are visible in the editor |
| 03:58.00 | pirate | and can be placed and whatnot |
| 03:58.01 | Wihl | I see |
| 03:58.09 | pirate | but they dont appear in game |
| 03:58.10 | Fukle | lolol wihl |
| 03:58.12 | pirate | i want them too |
| 03:58.18 | Fukle | That guy was a happy chappy/ |
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| 03:59.08 | Wihl | indeed |
| 03:59.45 | Fukle | What's ur psr? |
| 03:59.58 | pirate | no one's got ideas for making the objects appear in game? |
| 04:00.16 | Fukle | What do you mean? |
| 04:00.23 | Fukle | Oh.. |
| 04:00.29 | Fukle | I aint sure man. |
| 04:00.41 | pirate | ..? |
| 04:00.42 | Fukle | Might be that the object doesn't have a model.. |
| 04:01.09 | pirate | you can place the models in editor, and see em there, placed on the terrain |
| 04:01.30 | Fukle | o.o |
| 04:01.34 | Fukle | I have no idea sorry. |
| 04:01.37 | Fukle | hold up |
| 04:01.38 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 04:01.40 | Fukle | let me check something |
| 04:02.14 | Fukle | Okay check the units actor and look down to models. |
| 04:02.34 | Fukle | Is the model field empty and the Model (Editor) field have the model? |
| 04:03.12 | pirate | not able to check now... but that sounds like that could be it |
| 04:03.17 | Fukle | Okay. |
| 04:03.32 | Fukle | Well that's about the only reasonable explaination I can come up with. Hope it helps. :) |
| 04:03.38 | Alpha_vst | nope they are set |
| 04:04.26 | Fukle | hmm? |
| 04:06.10 | Alpha_vst | gah i cant get this trigger :( it wont return true :( |
| 04:06.35 | Pandepic | Alpha, do you know if it's possible to copy things from the data editor in one map into another map? |
| 04:07.21 | Alpha_vst | it is |
| 04:07.29 | Pandepic | oh good |
| 04:07.33 | Alpha_vst | VERY huge pain |
| 04:07.41 | Alpha_vst | cause you have to reload the map each switch |
| 04:07.41 | Pandepic | oh |
| 04:07.42 | Pandepic | ? |
| 04:07.46 | Pandepic | ugh |
| 04:07.54 | Pandepic | wondering if it's worth it to do a multi map ORPG |
| 04:07.55 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 04:08.02 | Alpha_vst | orpg? |
| 04:08.14 | Pandepic | I'll have to copy a ton of units and triggers for each new map |
| 04:08.45 | Pandepic | yeah, open rpg |
| 04:09.21 | Ignorance | ?! |
| 04:09.34 | Pandepic | lol |
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| 04:09.56 | onetwo | im working on a single map rpg atm... its enough work |
| 04:09.59 | onetwo | id recommend not doing more |
| 04:10.04 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 04:10.13 | Pandepic | I have no problem making a single map rpg lol |
| 04:10.13 | onetwo | lol and i figured out a solution to aura abilities with levels... |
| 04:10.18 | Pandepic | it's not enough of a challenge =P |
| 04:10.27 | Pandepic | also the map size is too small |
| 04:10.28 | onetwo | my plan was 40 levels |
| 04:10.29 | onetwo | 5 heros |
| 04:10.34 | onetwo | 9 abilities per hero each with 10 ranks |
| 04:10.36 | onetwo | ive already cut that down |
| 04:10.39 | onetwo | quite a bit |
| 04:10.41 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 04:10.45 | onetwo | 40 hero levels |
| 04:10.45 | Pandepic | man up onetwo =P |
| 04:10.47 | onetwo | that is |
| 04:10.53 | Pandepic | my heros will have 500 levels =P |
| 04:10.56 | Alpha_vst | its a lot of work |
| 04:10.57 | onetwo | :( |
| 04:11.05 | Alpha_vst | 500 levels yeah right |
| 04:11.08 | onetwo | im making "Zealous Aura" right now, 2 behaviors and 2 effects for each level |
| 04:11.14 | onetwo | making 10 ranks takes long enough |
| 04:11.18 | onetwo | nevermind enough for 500 levels |
| 04:11.19 | onetwo | hahah |
| 04:11.22 | Alpha_vst | you know you have to manually set each thing per level right |
| 04:11.36 | Alpha_vst | and if you have to mod it |
| 04:11.38 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 04:11.47 | Pandepic | what do you mean set each thing per level? |
| 04:12.08 | onetwo | oh and a minor issue with auras is that you cant learn behaviors as a hero skill, but you can learn abilities of type behavior, except its not passive |
| 04:12.12 | onetwo | its activtable |
| 04:12.16 | onetwo | activateable |
| 04:12.22 | onetwo | so auras have to be like that i guess |
| 04:12.27 | Pandepic | interesting |
| 04:12.47 | Pandepic | Alpha, I'm just going to have a curve for the stats and exp |
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| 04:13.04 | Pandepic | then I could have a million levels if I really wanted to lol |
| 04:13.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:14.52 | Pandepic | but 500 is enough to outdo onetwo! |
| 04:15.16 | Alpha_vst | is it possible to do any unit from unit group :( |
| 04:15.18 | Pandepic | my map shall be called "Better than onetwo's RPG" |
| 04:15.36 | onetwo | funny because my map is actually called onetwo rpg |
| 04:15.38 | onetwo | i dont know how you knew that |
| 04:15.40 | onetwo | you bastard |
| 04:15.40 | Pandepic | haha |
| 04:15.46 | Pandepic | inside sources |
| 04:15.57 | Pandepic | I also know what you had for breakfast |
| 04:15.58 | Alpha_vst | is it possible to do any unit from unit group :( |
| 04:16.01 | onetwo | i had no connection to outside world today |
| 04:16.04 | onetwo | which means you must be |
| 04:16.10 | Pandepic | and by inside sources |
| 04:16.11 | onetwo | *turns around * BOOM |
| 04:16.12 | Pandepic | I'm inside your house |
| 04:16.31 | Alpha_vst | wow hes good |
| 04:16.43 | Alpha_vst | >is it possible to do any unit from unit group :( |
| 04:16.47 | onetwo | uh |
| 04:16.51 | onetwo | unit is in unit group? |
| 04:16.53 | onetwo | does that exist |
| 04:17.04 | onetwo | you can always get the first unit from a unit group |
| 04:17.06 | Alpha_vst | im trying to see if a unti is in a region |
| 04:17.07 | Pandepic | so onetwo, I'm thinking |
| 04:17.25 | Alpha_vst | and i want it to be any unit in a unit group |
| 04:17.30 | Alpha_vst | idono how else to do it |
| 04:17.34 | Pandepic | all of the exp and stats etc. will be kind of ghost values and I'll use them with UnitSetPropertyFixed |
| 04:17.42 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:17.51 | Pandepic | does that sound ok to you? |
| 04:18.06 | Alpha_vst | picked unit wont work |
| 04:18.10 | Alpha_vst | sadly :( |
| 04:18.23 | Pandepic | can't you get every unit in the region? |
| 04:18.26 | Pandepic | and check them |
| 04:18.42 | Alpha_vst | hmmm |
| 04:18.58 | Alpha_vst | guess i have to add a bit to this trigger :( |
| 04:19.08 | Pandepic | I don't see a better way to do it |
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| 04:19.59 | Pandepic | you can use UnitGroupHasUnit |
| 04:20.09 | Pandepic | to see if a certain unit is in a group |
| 04:20.27 | Alpha_vst | ahh i found it |
| 04:20.34 | Pandepic | =) |
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| 04:21.04 | Alpha_vst | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.19 | Alpha_vst | that makes sense |
| 04:21.29 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:21.31 | onetwo | cool |
| 04:21.31 | Pandepic | I think it makes sense lol |
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| 04:21.47 | Pandepic | I didn't know you could do that |
| 04:21.54 | Alpha_vst | i didnt either :P |
| 04:22.12 | Pandepic | what map are you making? =O |
| 04:22.28 | Pandepic | also onetwo: do you know of any good way to export unit data to another map? |
| 04:22.37 | onetwo | i copy paste |
| 04:22.39 | onetwo | from one to the other |
| 04:22.41 | onetwo | right now |
| 04:22.46 | onetwo | havent had to do any big jobs though |
| 04:23.01 | Pandepic | does that copy other things like their actors, abilities etc? |
| 04:23.22 | onetwo | hmmmmmmm |
| 04:23.25 | onetwo | i forget |
| 04:23.28 | onetwo | i dont think so actuall |
| 04:23.30 | onetwo | y |
| 04:23.32 | Pandepic | fff |
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| 04:23.47 | Pandepic | ok that's going to be horribly tedious when I move to another map |
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| 04:24.01 | Alpha_vst | yes you have to copy each item |
| 04:24.03 | Pandepic | or maybe |
| 04:24.06 | Pandepic | I could just like |
| 04:24.13 | Pandepic | repaint all the terrain of the same map |
| 04:24.16 | Pandepic | and save it as a new one |
| 04:24.19 | Pandepic | =D |
| 04:24.37 | Alpha_vst | FUCK ME ITS STILL RESETTING :( |
| 04:24.41 | Alpha_vst | bad code is bad |
| 04:24.44 | Pandepic | can't believe I didn't think of that before |
| 04:25.09 | Pandepic | what are you trying to do Alpha? |
| 04:25.55 | onetwo | i wonder if we can reset a heroes |
| 04:25.58 | onetwo | spent skill points |
| 04:26.00 | onetwo | like in war3 |
| 04:26.18 | Pandepic | if you do everything as fake values like me then you can easily =P |
| 04:26.26 | onetwo | true |
| 04:26.27 | onetwo | im trying not to |
| 04:26.28 | onetwo | lol |
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| 04:26.37 | Pandepic | how come? |
| 04:26.46 | onetwo | trying to do an RPG |
| 04:26.50 | Alpha_vst | haha im trying to reset a timer if there is no unit for that player in the region |
| 04:26.50 | onetwo | using data editor |
| 04:26.52 | onetwo | as much as possible |
| 04:26.55 | Pandepic | oh |
| 04:26.57 | Pandepic | you sir are crazy |
| 04:26.59 | Pandepic | crazy and insane |
| 04:27.03 | Alpha_vst | VERY CRAZY |
| 04:27.15 | Pandepic | I'm avoiding the data editor as much as I possibly can |
| 04:27.29 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 04:27.45 | onetwo | i already went through that phase |
| 04:27.46 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:27.52 | onetwo | now im trying to be friends |
| 04:27.58 | Pandepic | well, I still have to use it -a lot- lol |
| 04:28.06 | Pandepic | but for me it's more fun to do things like stats all in triggers |
| 04:28.18 | Pandepic | data editor is not fun at all |
| 04:28.28 | Alpha_vst | same |
| 04:28.31 | Pandepic | Alpha |
| 04:28.38 | Pandepic | why don't you just pick every unit in the region for that player |
| 04:28.47 | Pandepic | and see if there is more than 0 of them |
| 04:28.49 | Alpha_vst | i did 0.o |
| 04:28.56 | Pandepic | did that not work? |
| 04:29.11 | Alpha_vst | it came abck as not true :( |
| 04:29.15 | Pandepic | wat |
| 04:30.01 | Pandepic | I'll show you |
| 04:30.09 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:31.01 | Alpha_vst | i know what im doing for the most part |
| 04:31.11 | Alpha_vst | its more complex that just that though |
| 04:31.34 | Pandepic | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.34 | Pandepic | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.34 | Pandepic | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.04 | Pandepic | that says, if there are 0 units for player 1 |
| 04:32.10 | Pandepic | in the region |
| 04:33.24 | Pandepic | that should work yes? |
| 04:34.10 | Alpha_vst | you cant compare untis in region mathing condtion to a number |
| 04:34.22 | Pandepic | I'm comparing UnitGroupCount |
| 04:34.26 | Pandepic | of that unit group |
| 04:34.28 | Pandepic | to a number |
| 04:34.29 | Pandepic | =) |
| 04:35.00 | Alpha_vst | what trigger is that |
| 04:35.03 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zombie-outbreak/. Zombie Outbreak. Atl0s (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sanktanglia. |
| 04:35.05 | Alpha_vst | i see no count |
| 04:35.12 | Pandepic | I'll turn off raw view |
| 04:35.15 | Pandepic | and see what it's called |
| 04:35.44 | Pandepic | in the nicer view it's called |
| 04:35.52 | Pandepic | "Number Of Units In Unit Group" |
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| 04:36.16 | Pandepic | noooo it froze my editor |
| 04:36.20 | Alpha_vst | oh lol |
| 04:36.30 | Alpha_vst | i didnt know that was... |
| 04:37.25 | Pandepic | =D |
| 04:38.15 | Pandepic | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.15 | Pandepic | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.15 | Pandepic | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.20 | Pandepic | what it looks like in the other view |
| 04:38.34 | Pandepic | and wow, it looks so different in this view... |
| 04:39.40 | Alpha_vst | i hate raw view :P i should switch though so i can witch to galaxy at some point |
| 04:39.47 | Pandepic | I prefer it |
| 04:39.57 | Pandepic | because the function names are all their galaxy names I think |
| 04:40.02 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 04:40.10 | Alpha_vst | raw view is galaxy code lol |
| 04:40.14 | Pandepic | and it just reads better to me |
| 04:40.52 | Pandepic | I should write this all in the script view |
| 04:40.54 | Pandepic | but I'm so lazy |
| 04:41.17 | onetwo | i find it weird that augment ability |
| 04:41.18 | onetwo | like charge |
| 04:41.20 | onetwo | cant have levels |
| 04:41.24 | onetwo | what a bummer |
| 04:41.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:41.31 | Pandepic | can't have levels? |
| 04:41.40 | onetwo | most abilities you can add multiple effects |
| 04:41.43 | Pandepic | oh |
| 04:41.45 | onetwo | and thus each one is treated as a level |
| 04:41.49 | onetwo | when doing heroes |
| 04:41.51 | onetwo | not augment though |
| 04:41.55 | Pandepic | hmm |
| 04:42.02 | Pandepic | that sucks |
| 04:42.04 | onetwo | which is nice cause charge is JUST augment |
| 04:42.05 | onetwo | super easy |
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| 04:42.09 | onetwo | instead of doing like 8 buffs |
| 04:42.10 | onetwo | crap |
| 04:42.12 | onetwo | to do charge |
| 04:42.13 | Pandepic | lol |
| 04:42.14 | onetwo | which i might have to do |
| 04:42.53 | Pandepic | I should call my map "Trigger RPG vs Data RPG" and you should call yours "Data RPG vs Trigger RPG" |
| 04:43.54 | Pandepic | onetwo: does my idea sound ok? |
| 04:43.58 | Pandepic | of just repainting the terrain on this map |
| 04:44.06 | Pandepic | to make the next one |
| 04:44.26 | Pandepic | as far as I know you can switch terrain textures to other types of maps without making a new one |
| 04:44.31 | Panzer_ | quick question, how do I make a dialog box only close for a certain player when they click a button on it rather than all players? there's no option for triggering player |
| 04:44.47 | Pandepic | I thought there was an option for triggering player |
| 04:45.11 | Panzer_ | nope |
| 04:45.38 | Pandepic | you can set the player in the event |
| 04:45.51 | Panzer_ | how? |
| 04:46.04 | Pandepic | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.10 | Pandepic | the c_playerAny |
| 04:46.17 | Pandepic | can be whichever player you want |
| 04:47.06 | Panzer_ | er how do I add that to the data editor? |
| 04:47.26 | Pandepic | I did that in the trigger editor lol |
| 04:47.35 | Panzer_ | oh i meant trigger editor |
| 04:47.46 | Pandepic | in your event for the button click |
| 04:48.31 | Alpha_vst | gah |
| 04:48.35 | Pandepic | new trigger -> add event -> dialog -> TriggerAddEventDialogControl |
| 04:48.40 | Alpha_vst | if this doesnt work |
| 04:48.43 | Alpha_vst | im goign to die |
| 04:49.08 | Pandepic | did my way not work Alpha? |
| 04:49.10 | Alpha_vst | i converted my whole scripted from a pick each to a for each |
| 04:49.12 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 04:49.20 | Pandepic | haha |
| 04:49.30 | Alpha_vst | i think that was the issue |
| 04:49.32 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 04:49.40 | Panzer_ | oh ok I kinda see what I gotta do next |
| 04:49.44 | Panzer_ | thanks |
| 04:49.46 | Pandepic | cool =) |
| 04:49.49 | Alpha_vst | NOPE |
| 04:49.53 | Alpha_vst | didnt works |
| 04:50.04 | Pandepic | still trying to see if there are 0 units in region? |
| 04:50.41 | Alpha_vst | idono what the issue is |
| 04:50.50 | Pandepic | did you try UnitGroupCount? |
| 04:51.08 | Alpha_vst | im going to pst my code and see if anyone can point my flaw out |
| 04:51.29 | Razernok | anyone know of a way to replace what texture a doodad is using? |
| 04:51.53 | Pandepic | I would guess the texture is in the actor or model |
| 04:52.17 | Pandepic | ^ the consequences of my avioding the data editor |
| 04:52.53 | Alpha_vst | http://i46.tinypic.com/fk9xj8.jpg |
| 04:52.57 | onetwo | hmm no simple way to make a different button for each rank of an ability |
| 04:53.02 | Alpha_vst | i know its probably something dumb |
| 04:53.05 | onetwo | it just auto puts [Level XX] on the button title |
| 04:53.08 | onetwo | for my aura |
| 04:53.18 | onetwo | so i cant put exact numbers into its descrip |
| 04:53.55 | Razernok | of course, no help |
| 04:54.01 | Pandepic | how does within point locations work? |
| 04:54.07 | onetwo | not sure never used it |
| 04:54.17 | Pandepic | sorry Razernok |
| 04:54.23 | Pandepic | I can only guess where the texture is |
| 04:54.28 | Pandepic | I haven't had to change one |
| 04:54.35 | onetwo | oh Razernok, id suggest extracting it out |
| 04:54.39 | onetwo | once you find what it is |
| 04:54.44 | Alpha_vst | point locations is the region |
| 04:54.52 | onetwo | but doodads with variations are weird i think |
| 04:54.53 | onetwo | cant preview them |
| 04:54.54 | Pandepic | a point isn't a region though |
| 04:54.59 | Razernok | extracting what out? |
| 04:55.00 | Pandepic | so maybe it's checking if a unit is on the point |
| 04:55.07 | onetwo | the .tga |
| 04:55.12 | onetwo | every model has a texture |
| 04:55.17 | onetwo | or hmm |
| 04:55.21 | onetwo | before this |
| 04:55.23 | onetwo | try the .m3 |
| 04:55.25 | Alpha_vst | point is a reagion the name is jsut called point |
| 04:55.27 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 04:55.28 | onetwo | then bring it into 3dsmax |
| 04:55.31 | Pandepic | oh lol |
| 04:55.32 | onetwo | and replace the texture there |
| 04:55.38 | Pandepic | that's what was confusing me =P |
| 04:55.43 | Razernok | I'm not overwriting an existing texture, just replacing the texture a doodad uses |
| 04:55.46 | onetwo | backup plan is find the actual doodads texture in mpq edit |
| 04:55.46 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 04:55.49 | Alpha_vst | because they are control POINTS |
| 04:55.51 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 04:55.54 | Razernok | I can't afford 3ds max |
| 04:55.57 | Pandepic | haha |
| 04:56.07 | onetwo | :/ |
| 04:56.07 | Pandepic | which part of it breaks? |
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| 04:56.24 | Alpha_vst | it wont trigger the then |
| 04:56.31 | Alpha_vst | onyl the else goes off |
| 04:56.32 | Pandepic | which then? |
| 04:56.38 | Pandepic | oh |
| 04:56.39 | Razernok | I don't have $3,495 |
| 04:56.40 | Pandepic | the outside one |
| 04:56.49 | Pandepic | you don't need 3ds max lol |
| 04:57.02 | Alpha_vst | yeah i was trying to be hacky lol |
| 04:57.11 | Alpha_vst | why the if is inside a if |
| 04:57.17 | Pandepic | there are other programs like blender |
| 04:57.29 | Pandepic | Alpha |
| 04:57.37 | Pandepic | try spawning X marines where X is the unit count |
| 04:57.43 | Pandepic | and see how many it thinks there are |
| 04:57.50 | Razernok | besides what doesn't 3ds max have to do with replacing what texture a doodad is using? |
| 04:58.17 | Alpha_vst | it thinks its 0 |
| 04:58.28 | Alpha_vst | thats why its returning the else |
| 04:58.28 | Pandepic | but it isn't 0? |
| 04:58.35 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 04:58.52 | Alpha_vst | because i issue the oder with the unit group and they move |
| 04:58.57 | Alpha_vst | so i know for a fact its not empty |
| 04:59.04 | Pandepic | maybe because it's number of living units in a group of zombies =D |
| 04:59.16 | Alpha_vst | ... |
| 04:59.19 | onetwo | when you import the .m3 |
| 04:59.22 | onetwo | it comes with textures |
| 04:59.27 | onetwo | to which you can export |
| 04:59.28 | onetwo | or replace |
| 04:59.30 | onetwo | with your own |
| 04:59.41 | onetwo | BUT you shuold be able to |
| 04:59.45 | onetwo | find the texture |
| 04:59.47 | Razernok | I'm only importing the texture |
| 04:59.49 | onetwo | in the asset browser |
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| 05:00.11 | Razernok | All I need to know is how to replace what texture a doodad is using |
| 05:00.21 | Pandepic | he's trying to tell you how to do it |
| 05:00.34 | Pandepic | ohhhhhh |
| 05:00.36 | Pandepic | oh |
| 05:00.39 | Pandepic | Alpha |
| 05:00.44 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 05:00.44 | Pandepic | UnitGroupFilterRegion |
| 05:00.50 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 05:01.06 | Pandepic | "Returns a unit group that contains units that are in a certain region from another unit group" |
| 05:01.26 | Pandepic | that sounds like what you need |
| 05:01.30 | onetwo | i havent done it, but my LOGICAL steps would include: find the texture name using asset browser... export it using mpq edit or w/e its called... edit in photoshop or w/e, then import it into the map |
| 05:01.32 | Razernok | where in the data editor do I tell it what texture to use instead of the model's default one for doodads? |
| 05:01.42 | onetwo | i dont know, there might be a field |
| 05:01.45 | onetwo | i havent seen one yet |
| 05:01.49 | Pandepic | Razer |
| 05:01.50 | onetwo | havent tried to do that though |
| 05:01.54 | Pandepic | the textures might be set in the model file |
| 05:01.59 | Pandepic | onetwo is saying you need to check that |
| 05:02.25 | Alpha_vst | razor you have to import the file with the same path as it is in the mpq |
| 05:02.47 | Razernok | I can't afford $3,495 for 3ds max so I can't make or modify models |
| 05:02.56 | Pandepic | blender is free |
| 05:02.57 | Alpha_vst | textures are.... Assests/Textures/ |
| 05:03.04 | onetwo | then use blender |
| 05:03.07 | onetwo | havent tried it |
| 05:03.10 | onetwo | so i cant offer help there |
| 05:03.13 | Verr82 | I want to kill myself for not using arrays earlier. I currently have 6 of every variable and trigger. |
| 05:03.19 | Pandepic | LOL |
| 05:03.19 | onetwo | or do what alpha said |
| 05:03.23 | onetwo | haha Verr |
| 05:03.27 | Razernok | Alpha_vst: I don't want to overwrite an existing texture, just replace the texture the model is using |
| 05:03.29 | Pandepic | does that function work Alpha? |
| 05:03.38 | Alpha_vst | thats what i was using first |
| 05:03.40 | Alpha_vst | gah |
| 05:03.40 | onetwo | im done here |
| 05:03.42 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:03.49 | Alpha_vst | onetwo its martul |
| 05:03.57 | onetwo | im well aware |
| 05:04.01 | onetwo | im his number 1 fan |
| 05:04.02 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:04.06 | Pandepic | I'm pretty sure |
| 05:04.07 | Pandepic | if you use |
| 05:04.17 | Pandepic | UnitGroupCount(UnitGroupFilterRegion()) |
| 05:04.19 | Pandepic | it will work |
| 05:04.22 | Pandepic | if your regions are set right |
| 05:04.36 | Pandepic | unless their functions are bugged |
| 05:04.42 | Alpha_vst | what is that? |
| 05:04.54 | Pandepic | let me convert it out of raw view |
| 05:05.06 | Alpha_vst | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.08 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 05:05.12 | Alpha_vst | THATS WHAT IM USING |
| 05:05.19 | Pandepic | oh hahaha |
| 05:05.28 | onetwo | woo first time editor crash... while ctrl+y |
| 05:05.30 | Fukle | Hey I am trying to make a unit initiate a build order, as in: Unit - Order Unit to (SCV - Build Supply Depot targeting (Position of Unit)) (Replace Existing Orders) but that make it build instantly, I want to make it initiate the build and I can place where it goes. |
| 05:05.30 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:05.36 | Pandepic | didn't even notice, I was looking at it only in raw view |
| 05:05.37 | Pandepic | sorry |
| 05:05.43 | Alpha_vst | yeah i know |
| 05:05.58 | onetwo | Fukle that seems advanced |
| 05:05.59 | onetwo | maybe doable |
| 05:06.00 | onetwo | not sure |
| 05:06.05 | Fukle | k |
| 05:06.18 | onetwo | i would guess it wouldnt be |
| 05:06.24 | Pandepic | why would you even want to do that? |
| 05:06.34 | Pandepic | you can already place it by placing the building |
| 05:06.47 | Fukle | mm |
| 05:06.53 | Fukle | But I am remaking an interface. |
| 05:06.59 | Fukle | And can't select the building |
| 05:07.04 | Fukle | so I am using the hotkey B |
| 05:07.09 | Pandepic | what exactly are you wanting to do? |
| 05:07.09 | Fukle | to do that. |
| 05:07.15 | Fukle | Press B |
| 05:07.27 | Pandepic | then place a building somewhere and it builds instantly? |
| 05:07.32 | Fukle | no |
| 05:07.40 | Fukle | well when you build a building |
| 05:07.42 | Fukle | like supply depot |
| 05:07.48 | Fukle | its green and you can place it somewhere |
| 05:07.50 | Fukle | for a unit to build |
| 05:07.57 | Pandepic | yep |
| 05:08.01 | Fukle | I want to that point |
| 05:08.06 | Fukle | where I can choose it position |
| 05:08.16 | Pandepic | but you already chose position |
| 05:08.19 | Pandepic | when you placed it |
| 05:08.21 | Fukle | I can't. |
| 05:08.23 | Pandepic | why do you want to choose it again? |
| 05:08.27 | Fukle | I have hiden the game UI |
| 05:08.37 | Fukle | Because it's a worker. |
| 05:08.44 | Fukle | And I want it to build a building |
| 05:08.55 | Pandepic | so just have a hotkey for the normal building stuff |
| 05:09.05 | Fukle | I have hiden the game ui |
| 05:09.09 | Fukle | so there arn't any hotkeys |
| 05:09.19 | Pandepic | you made hotkeys not work? |
| 05:09.23 | Razernok | I remember back in WC3 there was a way to replace what texture a doodad used through the object editor. basicly allowing you to use 1 model for each doodad but yet each doodad with a different texture |
| 05:09.24 | Fukle | ? |
| 05:09.32 | Fukle | No. |
| 05:09.35 | Fukle | There is no UI |
| 05:09.39 | Fukle | as in the build menu |
| 05:09.39 | Fukle | is gone |
| 05:09.43 | Fukle | so I can't build from it |
| 05:09.47 | Fukle | I am trying to remake it |
| 05:09.56 | Pandepic | sounds like a very strange thing lol |
| 05:10.14 | onetwo | the more you learn about peoples' maps |
| 05:10.17 | onetwo | the more bizzare it gets |
| 05:10.23 | Fukle | haha |
| 05:10.25 | Fukle | Okay |
| 05:10.26 | Fukle | wait |
| 05:10.27 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:10.30 | Razernok | it was called Replaceable Texture File |
| 05:10.31 | Pandepic | I'm not sure why you hid the build menu and then tried to remake it |
| 05:10.32 | Fukle | let me think of a better way to explain it |
| 05:10.38 | Razernok | so how do I do that |
| 05:10.45 | onetwo | hes trying to Fukle with us |
| 05:10.47 | onetwo | jk jk |
| 05:10.50 | Fukle | lol |
| 05:11.07 | Pandepic | Fukle |
| 05:11.11 | Pandepic | I can think of some ways to do it |
| 05:11.17 | Fukle | Okay. |
| 05:11.37 | Pandepic | not sure which will work well for you though |
| 05:11.43 | Fukle | mk |
| 05:11.53 | Pandepic | from what I can see |
| 05:11.58 | Pandepic | you could use any unit order as the point |
| 05:11.59 | Pandepic | or a ping |
| 05:12.04 | Razernok | anyone at all??? |
| 05:12.05 | Pandepic | to say where you want to put the building |
| 05:12.15 | Pandepic | so you could say, build supply depot |
| 05:12.19 | Pandepic | click move order for unit X |
| 05:12.26 | Pandepic | and it goes where the move order was issued to |
| 05:12.43 | Pandepic | or ping the map and it goes there |
| 05:12.50 | Alpha_vst | yeah they have that razernok but its not working |
| 05:12.52 | RickA | Hey guys, I need to pick your brain |
| 05:12.53 | Alpha_vst | so no |
| 05:12.54 | Pandepic | or you could use a rally point |
| 05:13.01 | Pandepic | from a building |
| 05:13.02 | Fukle | hmm |
| 05:13.09 | Fukle | I am not sure.. |
| 05:13.09 | Pandepic | those are the 3 ways I can see of doing it |
| 05:13.10 | Razernok | where is it??? |
| 05:13.15 | RickA | I want a unit to move forward until it hits a unit or a wall |
| 05:13.19 | Pandepic | I don't think you can use the mouse position |
| 05:13.23 | Fukle | I'll try explain it again. |
| 05:13.29 | Pandepic | or at least not easily |
| 05:13.34 | RickA | I know how to stop it at a unit |
| 05:13.35 | Fukle | Okay you know when you build with a worker |
| 05:13.42 | Fukle | you go into the build menu by pressing B |
| 05:13.49 | Fukle | then you click the building you want |
| 05:14.04 | Fukle | And the building shows and follows your mouse |
| 05:14.04 | RickA | But how can I make a unit always go straight ahead? |
| 05:14.09 | Pandepic | yeah I know what you're doing, those are the only 3 ways I can think of |
| 05:14.11 | Fukle | and when you press it on the map |
| 05:14.27 | onetwo | man the requests tonight are wild |
| 05:14.38 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 05:14.39 | Pandepic | yeah |
| 05:14.45 | onetwo | Rick i suggest just periodic order unit to move 0.5 points toward facing of unit |
| 05:14.49 | onetwo | if thats what you want |
| 05:14.51 | Fukle | Well I am thinking of issueing a unit the ability to initiate the building |
| 05:14.55 | Fukle | not build it |
| 05:14.55 | Alpha_vst | they have a function for it |
| 05:15.04 | Pandepic | Fukle |
| 05:15.13 | onetwo | im going to go work on my NORMAL rpg where im DUPLICATING STIM PACK!!! |
| 05:15.15 | onetwo | yeah!! |
| 05:15.16 | Pandepic | the only way to say "I want the building here" |
| 05:15.17 | Alpha_vst | it returns the angle of the units hiting a wall |
| 05:15.19 | Pandepic | is to use a point |
| 05:15.21 | Alpha_vst | idono what it is |
| 05:15.22 | Razernok | I see it no where in the data editor so where is it at???? |
| 05:15.26 | Pandepic | and to get a point at the mouse |
| 05:15.32 | Pandepic | you have to issue an order or set a rally point |
| 05:15.34 | Pandepic | or ping the map |
| 05:15.41 | Pandepic | I can't see another easy way to do it |
| 05:15.42 | Fukle | eh |
| 05:15.44 | Fukle | I dunno |
| 05:15.55 | Pandepic | you can look for a way if you like |
| 05:16.00 | Fukle | You do know that I want the building to show for me to build |
| 05:16.10 | Alpha_vst | IM ALMOST FIGGURING THIS OUT |
| 05:16.12 | Pandepic | I don't know how you can make the building placement thing show up |
| 05:16.18 | Pandepic | I don't think you even could |
| 05:16.19 | Fukle | mmm. |
| 05:16.26 | Fukle | I was thinking there would be an ability for it |
| 05:16.28 | Fukle | or a command |
| 05:16.34 | Pandepic | unless onetwo is crazy and insane enough to know how to do it |
| 05:16.37 | Pandepic | but I doubt you can |
| 05:16.45 | Fukle | I doubt it too.. :( |
| 05:16.57 | Pandepic | pretty sure the 3 ways I said are the only ways to do it |
| 05:17.00 | onetwo | i doubt it |
| 05:17.05 | Pandepic | or you could just use the normal build menu... |
| 05:17.21 | Fukle | That's what I am thinking of doing |
| 05:17.28 | Fukle | sadly... :( |
| 05:17.40 | Alpha_vst | GAH I HATE THAT SPAWN BUG |
| 05:17.44 | Atlos | wow wtf |
| 05:17.46 | Pandepic | things like the building placement are not part of the editor, they are core game mechanics I think |
| 05:17.50 | Atlos | why is it so hard to do a comparison of |
| 05:17.54 | Pandepic | so I don't think you can modify them and use them for other things |
| 05:17.58 | Alpha_vst | of what |
| 05:18.06 | Atlos | if (variable == marine) then blah blah |
| 05:18.10 | Atlos | or w/e unit |
| 05:18.11 | Pandepic | it's not hard |
| 05:18.12 | Fukle | Well I don't want to modify them at all |
| 05:18.18 | Fukle | I just want the unit to build something |
| 05:18.25 | Alpha_vst | its not |
| 05:18.36 | Atlos | well it won't let me do it lol |
| 05:18.42 | Pandepic | sec |
| 05:19.00 | RickA | Alright, I have a follow-up question |
| 05:19.07 | RickA | Is there a way to channel an ability while moving? |
| 05:19.22 | Alpha_vst | SO MY CONDTION IS WORKING!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:19.25 | onetwo | look at phoenix maybe |
| 05:19.25 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 05:19.27 | Pandepic | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.29 | onetwo | something to do with straging |
| 05:19.30 | Pandepic | ^ Atlos |
| 05:19.31 | onetwo | strafing |
| 05:19.33 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 05:19.40 | Alpha_vst | UI - Display (Text((Number of Living units in (Any units in PointLocations[Loop] owned by player 15 matching Excluded: Structure, Missile, Dead, Hidden, Invulnerable, with at most Any Amount)))) for (All players) to Error area |
| 05:19.45 | Alpha_vst | FTW |
| 05:19.51 | Pandepic | haha |
| 05:19.58 | Atlos | let me try that |
| 05:20.04 | Pandepic | my spawn marines idea is better Alpha! |
| 05:20.18 | Alpha_vst | well its my |
| 05:20.30 | Alpha_vst | other condtions |
| 05:20.33 | Alpha_vst | that are borked |
| 05:20.38 | Pandepic | ohh |
| 05:21.08 | Atlos | thanks pandepic I found it I think |
| 05:21.10 | Alpha_vst | its returning numbers greater than 1 :P |
| 05:21.37 | Pandepic | hah, told you to check it with spawning marines =D |
| 05:21.45 | Pandepic | but you had to go and be boring and use UI text =( |
| 05:22.14 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 05:24.29 | Pandepic | onetwo, how do you answer requests in this channel, make tutorials and also make progress on your map? =O |
| 05:24.40 | onetwo | ive ignored the last like 2 pages |
| 05:24.41 | Pandepic | I haven't gotten anything much done since talking in here lol |
| 05:24.44 | onetwo | of typing |
| 05:24.45 | Fukle | Okay, I have a more simplier question... How do I just show the Command Card UI? |
| 05:24.53 | onetwo | havent made a tutorial in over a week |
| 05:24.57 | Pandepic | Fukle: I can't help with that |
| 05:24.59 | onetwo | but i have made progress on my map |
| 05:25.00 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:25.04 | Pandepic | I don't hide the game interface |
| 05:25.05 | onetwo | cant do that fukle |
| 05:25.08 | Fukle | Okay. |
| 05:25.09 | Pandepic | so I don't know anything about it |
| 05:25.10 | onetwo | you know why i stopped working on my wow rpg |
| 05:25.12 | Fukle | Damn.. |
| 05:25.15 | onetwo | because its easier just to use data editor |
| 05:25.17 | onetwo | and blizz UI |
| 05:25.22 | onetwo | otherwise itll never get done |
| 05:25.23 | onetwo | i found |
| 05:25.30 | Fukle | Eh.. |
| 05:25.31 | Pandepic | you were that guy making the WoW rpg? |
| 05:25.35 | onetwo | no |
| 05:25.38 | onetwo | but i made my own |
| 05:25.40 | Pandepic | oh |
| 05:25.45 | Fukle | Was if nifty? |
| 05:26.30 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/onetwosc#p/p/B622244D3FBF4206/0/6w-XSOFu-pA |
| 05:26.33 | onetwo | theres the demo |
| 05:26.54 | onetwo | the feel of it got real close to WoW |
| 05:27.01 | onetwo | i just couldnt go the whole way |
| 05:27.06 | onetwo | especially with regards to items |
| 05:27.08 | onetwo | multiple players |
| 05:27.09 | onetwo | etc |
| 05:27.36 | Fukle | Ah k. |
| 05:28.21 | onetwo | but go for it |
| 05:28.24 | onetwo | prove me wrong :D |
| 05:28.40 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 05:29.34 | Alpha_vst | pretty nifty\ |
| 05:29.56 | Fukle | mhmm |
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| 05:30.47 | Alpha_vst | your inventory and such was nice :P |
| 05:31.05 | Fukle | How the hell did you do that drop down menu.. o.o |
| 05:31.14 | onetwo | dialog pulldown |
| 05:31.15 | onetwo | dont do it though |
| 05:31.21 | onetwo | thats one reason i stopped |
| 05:31.23 | Fukle | k lol |
| 05:31.28 | onetwo | if you add quest 1, quest 2, quest 3 |
| 05:31.35 | onetwo | theyll appear in the list as 1, 3, 2 |
| 05:31.41 | onetwo | it backwards orders the 2nd and onwards item |
| 05:31.48 | onetwo | making it very diffiicult to determine what the user clicked |
| 05:31.50 | onetwo | if it was quest 2 or 3 |
| 05:31.51 | onetwo | etc |
| 05:31.55 | Fukle | Oh.. |
| 05:31.57 | Pandepic | I'm going to download that map |
| 05:31.59 | onetwo | inventory has no drag n drop |
| 05:32.05 | onetwo | so yeah :/ |
| 05:32.06 | Pandepic | just to grab your backstab ability =D |
| 05:32.09 | onetwo | just annoying things |
| 05:32.10 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:32.13 | Fukle | mm lol |
| 05:32.19 | Fukle | What are you working on now? |
| 05:32.19 | onetwo | i do all the math for backstab in local vars |
| 05:32.20 | onetwo | its funny |
| 05:32.24 | onetwo | just a standard rpg |
| 05:32.26 | onetwo | heroes |
| 05:32.27 | Pandepic | oh dear |
| 05:32.29 | onetwo | objectives |
| 05:32.29 | onetwo | mobs |
| 05:32.30 | Fukle | ah cool |
| 05:32.39 | Pandepic | will I open it and brain explode? |
| 05:32.42 | onetwo | na |
| 05:32.57 | Alpha_vst | maybe |
| 05:33.03 | onetwo | it just takes the facing direction of the mob and a line between you and the mob |
| 05:33.07 | onetwo | calculates how close they are parallel |
| 05:33.09 | onetwo | aka youre behind |
| 05:33.18 | Pandepic | that's what I was going to do |
| 05:33.23 | onetwo | its dot product |
| 05:33.26 | onetwo | math crap |
| 05:33.27 | onetwo | :( |
| 05:33.33 | Alpha_vst | math is hot |
| 05:33.39 | Alpha_vst | if i was a chick i would do you |
| 05:33.39 | Pandepic | math is beautiful <3 |
| 05:34.10 | Razernok | fine, it must not be possible to do replaceable textures for doodads then |
| 05:34.26 | Alpha_vst | WOOT |
| 05:34.28 | Alpha_vst | TIMER IS BROKEN |
| 05:34.47 | Pandepic | good job alpha =P |
| 05:34.53 | Alpha_vst | (Duration of Timers[Loop]) <= 0.0 |
| 05:34.56 | Alpha_vst | FUCK YOU TIMER |
| 05:34.57 | Pandepic | Razer, I'm sure it is possible |
| 05:35.02 | Pandepic | if you follow what onetwo told you before |
| 05:35.18 | Alpha_vst | razernok what you want unless you can figure it out is nto possible |
| 05:35.42 | Alpha_vst | if you look in a doodads properties it has texture |
| 05:35.50 | Alpha_vst | and is a pulldown |
| 05:35.55 | Alpha_vst | if you can figure that out |
| 05:36.05 | Razernok | I've asked 20 times and no answer except to modify the model which I can't do since I can't afford $3,495 for 3ds max |
| 05:36.17 | Pandepic | lol onetwo gave you a ton of steps to try |
| 05:36.23 | Pandepic | and all of them are a good place to start |
| 05:36.47 | Pandepic | you are just looking for a simple solution that probably doesn't exist |
| 05:37.03 | Razernok | Pandepic: I said that I CAN"T MODIFY MODELS I don't have nor able to afford 3ds max |
| 05:37.17 | Pandepic | blender is free, and that's not the only step he gave you |
| 05:37.22 | Pandepic | even alpha gave you something to try |
| 05:37.32 | Alpha_vst | i actually lied |
| 05:37.42 | Pandepic | it's the thought that counts alpha =P |
| 05:37.42 | Alpha_vst | its not on doodads its on some units |
| 05:37.46 | Alpha_vst | i just dont know |
| 05:37.49 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 05:37.52 | Razernok | and you know for a fact that when blizzard releases the model art tools it will be 3ds max only |
| 05:38.07 | Pandepic | I don't know anything for a fact Razer |
| 05:38.13 | Alpha_vst | do you need some cheese martul? |
| 05:38.25 | Pandepic | lol who is martul? |
| 05:38.32 | Pandepic | does he just change names and keep trolling onetwo? |
| 05:39.01 | Pandepic | bah I'm still getting nothing done |
| 05:39.08 | onetwo | ~seen Martul |
| 05:39.21 | purl | martul <~chatzilla@unaffiliated/martul> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 6d 4h 33m 27s ago, saying: 'and still no one'. |
| 05:39.21 | Pandepic | I need to learn the art of ignoring IRC |
| 05:39.21 | Pandepic | make a tutorial on that onetwo |
| 05:39.27 | onetwo | thats who he is |
| 05:39.30 | onetwo | ~seen blayzin |
| 05:39.31 | purl | blayzin <~chatzilla@ppp-70-243-208-38.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 14d 2h 41m 44s ago, saying: 'I never see anyone helping a single person'. |
| 05:39.37 | Pandepic | lol |
| 05:39.38 | onetwo | ~seen Razernok |
| 05:39.39 | purl | razernok is currently on #sc2mapster (4h 40m 54s). Has said a total of 31 messages. Is idling for 1m 47s, last said: 'and you know for a fact that when blizzard releases the model art tools it will be 3ds max only'. |
| 05:39.54 | onetwo | :D |
| 05:40.02 | Pandepic | ~seen onetwo |
| 05:40.03 | purl | onetwo is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 8m 47s). Has said a total of 190 messages. Is idling for 9s, last said: ':D'. |
| 05:40.13 | Pandepic | =D |
| 05:40.20 | onetwo | i ignore sometimes because im thinking too much |
| 05:40.28 | onetwo | in the web of effects and behaviors that make up 1 ability |
| 05:40.28 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:40.35 | Pandepic | lol |
| 05:40.38 | Pandepic | as I always say |
| 05:40.41 | Pandepic | the new data editor is cool |
| 05:40.44 | Pandepic | but such a pain in the ass |
| 05:41.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster triceron (~60313557@gateway/web/freenode/x-elwhhcvcvpgoghke) |
| 05:41.18 | onetwo | :D yeah |
| 05:41.27 | Alpha_vst | Razernok <~cvdsaf@adsl-66-140-58-84.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net> âRazernokâ |
| 05:41.33 | Alpha_vst | he changed his ip at least |
| 05:41.47 | Pandepic | is martul a known troll or something? |
| 05:41.55 | onetwo | yes |
| 05:41.58 | onetwo | within irc |
| 05:42.04 | onetwo | blayzin then martul then razernok |
| 05:42.05 | onetwo | same guy |
| 05:42.11 | onetwo | finds non doable things |
| 05:42.14 | onetwo | comes here |
| 05:42.17 | onetwo | doesnt take suggestions |
| 05:42.24 | Pandepic | oh |
| 05:42.27 | onetwo | or waits till we see his intelligence of finding the limitation |
| 05:42.27 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 05:42.32 | onetwo | then leaves for a few days |
| 05:42.33 | onetwo | comes back |
| 05:42.37 | onetwo | sixen goes on a ban fest |
| 05:42.38 | Pandepic | is that the guy that was saying before that he wrote 90% of the sc2 game server? |
| 05:42.42 | onetwo | he comes back a few days later with a new name |
| 05:42.44 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 05:42.46 | onetwo | probably not? |
| 05:42.51 | Alpha_vst | that was a idiot |
| 05:42.55 | Pandepic | oh lol |
| 05:43.08 | Alpha_vst | why is my timer broken? |
| 05:43.14 | Pandepic | because alpha |
| 05:43.22 | Pandepic | the editor just doesn't want you to finish that map |
| 05:43.33 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 05:43.38 | Alpha_vst | I KNOW WHY |
| 05:43.42 | Pandepic | did you set it to run only once? =P |
| 05:43.53 | Alpha_vst | no i dont |
| 05:44.07 | Alpha_vst | Timer - Start Timers[Loop] as a One Shot timer that will expire in 15.0 Game Time seconds |
| 05:44.18 | Pandepic | is it only meant to run once? |
| 05:44.26 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 05:44.28 | Alpha_vst | or untill its ran again |
| 05:44.39 | Pandepic | wait, show me your trigger again |
| 05:44.55 | Pandepic | is the timer just not running? |
| 05:45.06 | Alpha_vst | it is |
| 05:45.16 | Alpha_vst | i sorta know the issue |
| 05:45.56 | Alpha_vst | i have my reset timer in the wrong place |
| 05:46.01 | Pandepic | wtf lol |
| 05:46.05 | Pandepic | TimerGetDuration |
| 05:46.06 | Pandepic | and |
| 05:46.10 | Pandepic | TimerGetRemaining |
| 05:46.14 | Pandepic | do they do the same thing? |
| 05:46.17 | Alpha_vst | idono |
| 05:46.26 | Pandepic | decsriptions suggest they do |
| 05:46.32 | Alpha_vst | I KNOW |
| 05:46.53 | Pandepic | fixed it? |
| 05:47.24 | Razernok | its soooo nice that people try to force others to do it their way and when the person doesn't they bitch about it. |
| 05:47.26 | Fukle | Do I have to publish a map if I want to test it with a friend? |
| 05:47.37 | Pandepic | yes Fukle |
| 05:47.39 | Pandepic | publish it privately |
| 05:47.46 | Fukle | Oh okay. |
| 05:47.47 | Fukle | Cheer |
| 05:47.50 | Fukle | s |
| 05:47.54 | Pandepic | =) |
| 05:48.01 | Alpha_vst | but beta ends today |
| 05:48.04 | Alpha_vst | so hurry |
| 05:48.05 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 05:48.14 | Pandepic | how many hours left? |
| 05:48.27 | Pandepic | trying to work out what time it'll be in Australia |
| 05:48.28 | onetwo | omgomgmgomgogm |
| 05:48.29 | onetwo | yes |
| 05:48.33 | onetwo | we can set custom tooltips |
| 05:48.37 | onetwo | for each hero ability level |
| 05:48.38 | Alpha_vst | YES YOU CAN |
| 05:48.41 | onetwo | yay |
| 05:48.42 | Pandepic | lol |
| 05:48.53 | Pandepic | like a kid that just found a candy factory =P |
| 05:49.00 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:49.04 | onetwo | but i dont know how to reference the dmg |
| 05:49.07 | onetwo | dynamically |
| 05:49.09 | onetwo | like in war 3 |
| 05:49.12 | onetwo | %f |
| 05:49.14 | onetwo | that crap |
| 05:49.18 | Pandepic | did you try that? |
| 05:49.23 | onetwo | i dont think its %f |
| 05:49.43 | Pandepic | can you check how the unit interface does it? |
| 05:49.53 | onetwo | well i found blink |
| 05:49.54 | onetwo | look |
| 05:50.14 | onetwo | Teleports the Stalker to a nearby target location. Ability can only be used once every Abil,Blink,Cost[0].Cooldown.TimeUse seconds. |
| 05:50.20 | onetwo | i dont know if that works though |
| 05:50.21 | Pandepic | haha |
| 05:50.33 | Pandepic | little more complicated than %f =P |
| 05:50.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:50.41 | Alpha_vst | I THINK I GOT IT |
| 05:50.47 | Pandepic | alpha |
| 05:50.51 | Pandepic | stop getting your hopes up =P |
| 05:50.56 | Alpha_vst | I had the oder of my tigger ass backwatds |
| 05:51.04 | Pandepic | haha |
| 05:51.10 | onetwo | have to use raw name |
| 05:51.11 | onetwo | Blink |
| 05:51.14 | onetwo | not Stalker - Blink |
| 05:51.16 | Alpha_vst | i was resetting the the timer if it wasnt 0 |
| 05:51.19 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 05:51.23 | Alpha_vst | WTF |
| 05:51.34 | Pandepic | lol |
| 05:51.39 | Pandepic | genius =P |
| 05:51.44 | Alpha_vst | http://i46.tinypic.com/fk9xj8.jpg look |
| 05:52.16 | Alpha_vst | ok maybe it didnt work :( |
| 05:52.18 | Pandepic | that should be resetting them if it is 0 |
| 05:52.30 | Pandepic | 'cause it's in the else part... |
| 05:52.58 | Alpha_vst | but if the timer is 0 then do actions else reset it |
| 05:53.14 | Pandepic | oh |
| 05:53.22 | Pandepic | is it in the wrong else then? |
| 05:53.24 | Fukle | I keep getting an error when I publish.. |
| 05:53.33 | Pandepic | right now it's resetting it when the unit count is 0 |
| 05:54.05 | Fukle | "Lost connect to gateway" |
| 05:54.13 | Fukle | connection* |
| 05:54.17 | Alpha_vst | idono |
| 05:54.17 | Pandepic | I thought they fixed that in patch 15 |
| 05:54.26 | Pandepic | alpha, I think it's in the wrong else lol |
| 05:54.29 | triceron | I gotta ask, what's this Martul guy asking that's so bad? |
| 05:54.32 | Pandepic | right now it's in the else for unit count |
| 05:54.35 | Alpha_vst | im confused now |
| 05:54.45 | Pandepic | so if the unit count is 0 |
| 05:54.48 | Pandepic | it will reset the timers |
| 05:55.08 | Pandepic | is that what you wanted? |
| 05:55.53 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 05:56.07 | Alpha_vst | i think i got it this time |
| 05:56.14 | Alpha_vst | last time i got a took to long |
| 05:56.14 | Pandepic | haha |
| 05:56.16 | Alpha_vst | ops |
| 05:57.00 | Fukle | now I am unable to publis because of: Document dependancy header file is not abailabe: Teams 11 (Mod) and Document dependancy header file is not abailable: Liberty Multi (Mod) |
| 05:57.19 | Pandepic | never seen that one Fukle |
| 05:57.29 | Fukle | Man.. |
| 05:57.53 | Fukle | Ima restart ge |
| 05:57.55 | onetwo | remove teams maybe |
| 05:57.57 | Alpha_vst | MY SINPER UNIT IS TO GOOD :P |
| 05:58.02 | Alpha_vst | his range is 20 |
| 05:58.03 | Alpha_vst | WTF |
| 05:58.04 | Pandepic | you fixed it alpha/ |
| 05:58.06 | Alpha_vst | WHY DID I |
| 05:58.07 | Pandepic | ?* |
| 05:58.21 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 05:58.23 | Fukle | I don't even remember adding teams. |
| 05:58.27 | Pandepic | lol |
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| 05:59.15 | Fukle | sigh restarting didn't fix it. |
| 05:59.28 | Pandepic | seems weird that they wouldn't be available |
| 05:59.59 | Pandepic | what is in Liberty Multi? |
| 06:00.02 | Fukle | mm |
| 06:00.28 | Fukle | I dunno |
| 06:00.29 | Alpha_vst | thats the game |
| 06:00.39 | Alpha_vst | its everything that is in beta |
| 06:00.46 | Pandepic | oh I see |
| 06:01.13 | Alpha_vst | some times im amazed at the random levels |
| 06:01.15 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 06:01.19 | Alpha_vst | its pretty nifty |
| 06:01.22 | Pandepic | lol |
| 06:01.26 | Alpha_vst | other times i want to say fuck you game |
| 06:01.54 | Pandepic | dying to your own map? =P |
| 06:02.05 | Alpha_vst | FUCK YOU MY GAME IS HARD |
| 06:02.56 | Pandepic | =D |
| 06:03.07 | Alpha_vst | LOL so hard some times you auto lose |
| 06:03.12 | Alpha_vst | cause of a bug |
| 06:03.14 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 06:03.15 | Pandepic | haha what |
| 06:03.34 | Pandepic | so many maps in the top 10 now have horrible bugs |
| 06:03.38 | Alpha_vst | my inital unit spawn is sorta broken |
| 06:03.43 | Pandepic | like one of the TDs there |
| 06:03.47 | Pandepic | 3/4 players didn't work |
| 06:03.48 | Pandepic | lol |
| 06:03.48 | Alpha_vst | ALL OF THEM |
| 06:03.58 | Pandepic | how do you release a map |
| 06:04.02 | Pandepic | where 3/4 players can't play it |
| 06:04.21 | Alpha_vst | how do u release a map where all players are allied in a ffa game |
| 06:04.29 | Pandepic | hahaha |
| 06:04.41 | Pandepic | phantom bgh is good though |
| 06:04.42 | Alpha_vst | it happend and it was top 10 |
| 06:04.43 | Alpha_vst | WTF |
| 06:04.53 | Alpha_vst | goodnight though |
| 06:04.53 | Pandepic | yeah popularity is so bad |
| 06:05.01 | Pandepic | night |
| 06:05.05 | Pandepic | good luck with your broken timers =P |
| 06:05.07 | Alpha_vst | fic this bug tomorrow |
| 06:05.10 | Alpha_vst | fix |
| 06:08.01 | onetwo | night |
| 06:11.03 | Fukle | Okay this is starting to get stupid. |
| 06:11.08 | Fukle | Like I don't have any teams. |
| 06:11.12 | Fukle | But I still get that error. |
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| 06:11.45 | Fukle | I even reset to default. >:( |
| 06:12.10 | onetwo | :( |
| 06:12.17 | onetwo | game variant? |
| 06:12.20 | Fukle | Does sixen ever come on? |
| 06:12.30 | Fukle | hmm? |
| 06:13.20 | Fukle | What do you mean. |
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| 06:13.55 | onetwo | yah |
| 06:14.05 | onetwo | youtube.com/onetwosc |
| 06:14.12 | onetwo | my tutorial on map publishing |
| 06:14.15 | onetwo | should answer your question |
| 06:14.21 | Fukle | Okay cool thanks. |
| 06:14.22 | onetwo | thats what controls lobby stuff etc |
| 06:19.22 | Fukle | hmm |
| 06:19.35 | Furyhunter | We're fully aware of the concerns that are being discussed in the various threads, on fansites, detailed through kitten videos, etc. and we're in the midst of working on a comprehensive address that should hit most of the major concerns. Just a heads up. |
| 06:19.36 | Fukle | Okay well I never made any teams I just did tehm through triggers. |
| 06:19.40 | Furyhunter | BASHIOK! I LOVE YOU!! |
| 06:19.43 | Fukle | But I haven't touched game varients. |
| 06:20.51 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:20.53 | onetwo | fury hunter |
| 06:20.56 | onetwo | you finally saw it |
| 06:21.04 | onetwo | Fukle, game variants mean everything for hosting |
| 06:21.05 | onetwo | on bnet |
| 06:21.20 | onetwo | definitely start looking at that |
| 06:21.31 | Fukle | okay |
| 06:21.37 | Fukle | well I fixed the previous errors |
| 06:21.47 | Fukle | but I have an error now saying something about invalid varients |
| 06:21.52 | Fukle | so ill look into them now :D |
| 06:23.08 | Fukle | Is it possible to setup 9v1 teams? |
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| 06:24.37 | onetwo | alliances through triggers |
| 06:24.39 | onetwo | but lobby teams through variant |
| 06:24.44 | onetwo | so probably |
| 06:24.46 | onetwo | but keep that in mind |
| 06:25.25 | Fukle | okay |
| 06:25.29 | Fukle | I just changed the lobby team |
| 06:25.30 | Fukle | s |
| 06:25.34 | Fukle | for 1v9 |
| 06:26.08 | onetwo | lock em too |
| 06:26.09 | onetwo | etc |
| 06:28.11 | Fukle | wew it worked |
| 06:28.14 | Fukle | yeah I locked them |
| 06:28.15 | Fukle | thanks |
| 06:30.09 | onetwo | np |
| 06:31.21 | P_R_Deltoid | does the updater updating over and over mean anything? |
| 06:31.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Like... bad? |
| 06:31.30 | P_R_Deltoid | it'st he same patch over and over. |
| 06:33.29 | Verr82 | what is Minimum Scan Range? |
| 06:34.08 | P_R_Deltoid | and fucking.... I don't see the editor yet it's patching patch 15. |
| 06:34.10 | P_R_Deltoid | what the fuck |
| 06:34.36 | onetwo | verr thats confused me too |
| 06:34.38 | onetwo | i really dont know what it is |
| 06:34.39 | heysparky | all right |
| 06:34.40 | onetwo | i thought it was scan range |
| 06:34.41 | heysparky | triggers |
| 06:34.44 | heysparky | you're toast |
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| 06:36.19 | onetwo | lol my plan failed |
| 06:36.26 | onetwo | of using dyanmic link to ability values |
| 06:37.24 | onetwo | wtf cant copy into here |
| 06:37.24 | onetwo | weird |
| 06:37.35 | onetwo | rrowland do you know about linking button tooltips |
| 06:37.39 | onetwo | to ability values |
| 06:37.44 | onetwo | like blink's cooldown does |
| 06:37.48 | onetwo | its button |
| 06:37.58 | onetwo | abil,Blink,cooldown[0],cost,timeuse |
| 06:37.59 | onetwo | etc |
| 06:38.10 | onetwo | the syntax... |
| 06:38.15 | onetwo | didnt work for behavior |
| 06:40.27 | Pandepic | rrowland only knows about dotarolling people |
| 06:41.12 | onetwo | lo |
| 06:41.55 | onetwo | a snippet from my Ability's button: "...attacks Behavior,VengeanceLevel1,Modification.Coombat.AttackSpeedMultiplier times faster, and gains..." |
| 06:42.00 | onetwo | i tried to do the syntax blink did |
| 06:42.02 | onetwo | but that didnt work |
| 06:42.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:42.09 | onetwo | and Coombat is fixed |
| 06:42.12 | onetwo | just typed it wrong now |
| 06:42.26 | Pandepic | are you sure you used all the raw names? |
| 06:42.44 | onetwo | i cant figure out raw name for attackspeedmultiplier |
| 06:42.46 | onetwo | ill try without combat |
| 06:42.47 | onetwo | perhaps |
| 06:43.33 | onetwo | nope |
| 06:44.33 | onetwo | most abilities |
| 06:44.35 | onetwo | dont use the shortcut |
| 06:44.37 | onetwo | nuke just says 20 secs |
| 06:44.37 | onetwo | etc |
| 06:44.40 | Bifuu | i used to know xD but i havnt loaded GE in a while so i forgot |
| 06:44.40 | onetwo | straight numbers |
| 06:45.00 | Bifuu | it might not work well for veterancy levels |
| 06:45.31 | onetwo | well im just trying to reference my level behavior |
| 06:45.33 | onetwo | just as a test |
| 06:46.30 | onetwo | sec might have found it |
| 06:46.37 | Bifuu | look up how that new Zerg spell does it and modify that maybe? i honestly have no idea how Frenzy works |
| 06:47.17 | onetwo | k |
| 06:47.22 | onetwo | nope my fix didnt work haha |
| 06:47.35 | onetwo | let me see |
| 06:48.21 | onetwo | Sends a biological unit into a frenzy for 30 seconds. The unit is rendered immune to slows, stuns, and mind control, and will deal 25% more damage. |
| 06:48.24 | onetwo | it has no links |
| 06:48.26 | onetwo | lol :/ |
| 06:48.31 | onetwo | blizzard likes to enter it manually i guess |
| 06:48.40 | onetwo | it makes it too bug prown for me |
| 06:48.43 | onetwo | with 10 levels |
| 06:48.54 | onetwo | for an ability |
| 06:48.54 | onetwo | i dont want to leave them as straight numbers |
| 06:49.13 | Bifuu | i saw a blizz link on something |
| 06:49.16 | Bifuu | Stimpack? |
| 06:49.24 | Bifuu | fuck it ill look |
| 06:49.42 | onetwo | Spawn an Infested Terran. Infested Terrans last Behavior,SwarmlingFate,Duration seconds. |
| 06:49.44 | Bifuu | in my out of date editor |
| 06:49.45 | onetwo | that one has one |
| 06:49.48 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:50.24 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 06:50.28 | Bifuu | that accesses a field directly |
| 06:50.36 | Bifuu | modification is a group |
| 06:50.38 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:50.43 | Bifuu | maybe you have to do some fancy shit |
| 06:50.45 | onetwo | i tried Buff_Modification too |
| 06:50.47 | onetwo | didnt work |
| 06:50.48 | Bifuu | modification(attackspeed) |
| 06:50.51 | onetwo | ugh |
| 06:50.59 | Bifuu | or put in that plus in the name |
| 06:51.02 | Bifuu | i dunn |
| 06:51.03 | Bifuu | o |
| 06:51.24 | onetwo | ooh plan 1 |
| 06:51.29 | onetwo | i got rid of combine structure values |
| 06:51.31 | onetwo | so now its one big list |
| 06:51.56 | Bifuu | wha |
| 06:52.06 | onetwo | the rightmost icon |
| 06:52.10 | onetwo | for toggling advanced values etc |
| 06:52.13 | onetwo | is combine strucutre values |
| 06:52.18 | onetwo | so it expands out Modification+ |
| 06:52.20 | onetwo | into all the fields |
| 06:52.24 | onetwo | right in regular list |
| 06:52.27 | onetwo | ah i see now |
| 06:52.27 | Bifuu | ah |
| 06:52.28 | onetwo | its |
| 06:52.51 | Bifuu | i wouldnt have guessed that |
| 06:52.51 | Bifuu | lol |
| 06:52.53 | onetwo | CBehaviorBuff_Modification_AttackSpeedMultiplier |
| 06:52.59 | onetwo | i wonder if i need buff in there |
| 06:55.14 | onetwo | ah okay |
| 06:55.18 | onetwo | underscores become dots |
| 06:56.37 | Pandepic | this editor is so buggy... |
| 06:57.04 | Pandepic | it just randomly decided to stop drawing anything except terrain |
| 06:57.23 | heysparky | sounds like a weird display toggle |
| 06:59.51 | onetwo | OMG |
| 06:59.53 | onetwo | you have to show raw text |
| 07:00.06 | onetwo | Spawn an Infested Terran. Infested Terrans last <d ref="Behavior,SwarmlingFate,Duration"/> seconds.<n/><n/> |
| 07:00.09 | onetwo | notice the small change now |
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| 07:02.32 | Fatal510 | b.net down? |
| 07:03.03 | Pandepic | lol onetwo |
| 07:03.12 | Pandepic | why were you not looking at the raw text before? =P |
| 07:03.18 | onetwo | i thought i was |
| 07:03.23 | onetwo | because i saw <n/> |
| 07:03.25 | onetwo | in my button |
| 07:03.28 | onetwo | but not in infested terrans |
| 07:03.29 | Pandepic | haha |
| 07:03.48 | Pandepic | heysparky: it wasn't a display toggle |
| 07:03.56 | Pandepic | it just sometimes seems to do it |
| 07:03.57 | Fatal510 | i do everything in pure galaxy because im pro |
| 07:04.09 | Pandepic | maybe my video drivers |
| 07:04.17 | Pandepic | that's pretty pro fatal |
| 07:04.36 | Fatal510 | if only it were true :( |
| 07:05.06 | onetwo | k i got it working |
| 07:05.09 | onetwo | but instead of 1.5x faster |
| 07:05.12 | onetwo | it says 2x faster |
| 07:05.13 | onetwo | it rounded up |
| 07:05.20 | onetwo | now how do i display decimals... |
| 07:05.21 | onetwo | oh boy |
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| 07:08.37 | onetwo | man i dont understand this |
| 07:08.44 | onetwo | 90% of the buttons use direct numbers |
| 07:08.54 | onetwo | then a random few take advantage of linking directly to the ability value |
| 07:08.59 | onetwo | that seems odd of blizzard |
| 07:09.01 | onetwo | not to organize |
| 07:12.20 | Pandepic | maybe |
| 07:12.24 | Pandepic | because most of them don't need to link |
| 07:12.38 | Pandepic | or something |
| 07:12.43 | onetwo | well if someone balances fungal growth to do 38 damage instead of 36 |
| 07:12.49 | onetwo | have to go back and change the button as well |
| 07:13.07 | onetwo | oh well i cant really use it anyway because i need % value or decimals |
| 07:13.09 | onetwo | not an integer |
| 07:13.16 | Fatal510 | i made the coolest fire tower ever! |
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| 07:13.57 | onetwo | hey what model you use for fire |
| 07:14.02 | onetwo | im going to need to make a firebolt abil soon |
| 07:14.22 | Fatal510 | the 'terran building fire large' |
| 07:14.57 | Fatal510 | more of a ball of fire then a bolt |
| 07:15.10 | Pandepic | fire is fire =P |
| 07:15.21 | onetwo | if you make it move fast |
| 07:15.26 | onetwo | itll look like a bolt |
| 07:15.29 | Pandepic | I'm going to download Hex'd and look at the spells there |
| 07:15.32 | Pandepic | because the models they used |
| 07:15.35 | Pandepic | are really cool |
| 07:15.42 | Fatal510 | then it will just look like a stream |
| 07:16.11 | onetwo | that works |
| 07:16.12 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:16.52 | onetwo | fatal can we play your map |
| 07:16.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:17.16 | Pandepic | don't play it with him |
| 07:17.20 | Pandepic | he'll crush you and make you cry |
| 07:17.23 | Pandepic | like he did to me |
| 07:18.21 | onetwo | lets go us 3 then |
| 07:18.22 | Fatal510 | lets do it |
| 07:18.24 | onetwo | and anyone else |
| 07:18.25 | onetwo | woo |
| 07:18.27 | onetwo | publish it! |
| 07:18.39 | Pandepic | I'm not playing |
| 07:18.43 | Pandepic | have to call the girlfriend |
| 07:18.56 | Pandepic | but after that I'll play |
| 07:19.16 | onetwo | k |
| 07:19.23 | Fatal510 | should we wait then? |
| 07:19.32 | Pandepic | no lol |
| 07:19.35 | Pandepic | it will take hours |
| 07:19.57 | Fatal510 | wtf |
| 07:20.06 | Fatal510 | need more peoples! |
| 07:20.36 | Pandepic | well maybe it wont take so long |
| 07:20.39 | onetwo | anyone want to play |
| 07:20.42 | onetwo | line tower wars |
| 07:20.42 | Pandepic | she's sleeping soon, but you never know |
| 07:20.44 | onetwo | with me and fatal |
| 07:20.58 | Fatal510 | im online |
| 07:20.59 | Fatal510 | where are you! |
| 07:21.20 | Fatal510 | you can talk and play |
| 07:21.24 | onetwo | waiting for people |
| 07:21.29 | onetwo | did you make it a public game yet? |
| 07:21.31 | onetwo | or no |
| 07:21.36 | Fatal510 | not yet |
| 07:21.43 | onetwo | then we definitely need more |
| 07:21.46 | Pandepic | haha |
| 07:21.51 | Pandepic | I guess I could talk and play |
| 07:21.54 | Fatal510 | yay! |
| 07:21.57 | onetwo | yay |
| 07:22.04 | Pandepic | only if onetwo adds me to his friend list |
| 07:22.09 | Pandepic | so I can spam him |
| 07:22.11 | onetwo | pm me email |
| 07:22.15 | Pandepic | <3 |
| 07:22.29 | heysparky | does anyone have a good example of attack waves in use? |
| 07:22.29 | Fatal510 | you can add each other once we are in game |
| 07:22.40 | Fatal510 | heysparkey |
| 07:22.46 | Fatal510 | come play with us |
| 07:23.24 | heysparky | ./squints |
| 07:23.37 | heysparky | are there attack waves to be gleaned from this somehow? |
| 07:24.19 | onetwo | my youtube channel has several examples of attack waves! |
| 07:24.20 | onetwo | now come on!! |
| 07:24.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:24.45 | heysparky | how long will this take? :) |
| 07:24.58 | Pandepic | what do you mean by attack waves? |
| 07:25.04 | Pandepic | not the AI functions? |
| 07:25.09 | heysparky | no, the game |
| 07:25.16 | heysparky | oh |
| 07:25.21 | Pandepic | so you mean |
| 07:25.21 | onetwo | pandepic |
| 07:25.22 | heysparky | I'm just looking at the triggers |
| 07:25.24 | onetwo | accept my friend invite |
| 07:25.26 | Pandepic | spawn X units and tell them to go to Y |
| 07:25.26 | onetwo | and stop afking ingame |
| 07:25.29 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:25.32 | Fatal510 | ^ |
| 07:25.41 | Sixen | Rawr. |
| 07:25.42 | Fatal510 | we dont have much time! |
| 07:25.43 | Sixen | Sup guys. |
| 07:25.45 | Fatal510 | servers can go down at anytime |
| 07:25.46 | Fatal510 | sixen |
| 07:25.48 | onetwo | sixen! |
| 07:25.49 | Fatal510 | get up in the game with us |
| 07:25.49 | onetwo | join |
| 07:25.50 | onetwo | us |
| 07:25.53 | onetwo | line tower wars |
| 07:25.55 | Sixen | Oh |
| 07:25.56 | Sixen | Sure |
| 07:26.11 | heysparky | Pandepic, I get the concept, I want to see them implemented |
| 07:26.27 | heysparky | there are, like, 1000 trigger elements related to waves |
| 07:26.43 | heysparky | patching |
| 07:26.54 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:27.42 | heysparky | didn't have 15 |
| 07:28.18 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:29.17 | onetwo | how long heysparky? |
| 07:29.27 | heysparky | 90% |
| 07:29.34 | onetwo | k |
| 07:29.59 | heysparky | which of your tutorials deals with waves, onetwo? I'm at your channel |
| 07:30.12 | onetwo | tutorial 3 makes waves when the last unit of previous wave dies |
| 07:30.25 | onetwo | same with tutorial 1, and (number 7 i think) the advanced tower D one |
| 07:30.32 | heysparky | logging in |
| 07:30.38 | onetwo | i show how to make triggers that make custom units for each wave |
| 07:30.43 | onetwo | and each wave is spawned after last unit dies |
| 07:30.46 | onetwo | if thats what you need |
| 07:31.02 | heysparky | whoa... interface bork |
| 07:31.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:31.18 | onetwo | PM me your email |
| 07:31.21 | onetwo | so i can invite you |
| 07:31.41 | heysparky | bnet email? |
| 07:31.44 | onetwo | yes |
| 07:32.50 | onetwo | heysparky sent you the request |
| 07:33.11 | heysparky | accepted |
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| 07:38.59 | Fatal510 | so broken... |
| 07:39.03 | Fatal510 | ill fix it fast! |
| 07:39.16 | Beider | does anyone know how I can export icons from the galaxy editor? I want to make my own custom one but would like something to use as a base |
| 07:39.55 | onetwo | isnt there like an asset browser |
| 07:40.05 | onetwo | sorry i dont have editor open |
| 07:40.11 | onetwo | you can always print screen if worst comes to worst |
| 07:41.49 | Fatal510 | alright i fixed it |
| 07:41.56 | Fatal510 | hope we can get everyone back in |
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| 07:43.36 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ by Quickshot14 |
| 07:44.12 | Beider | yeah I went with printscreening |
| 07:44.16 | Beider | hopefully it works ok |
| 07:44.21 | Fatal510 | everyone back in the game! |
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| 07:45.18 | Tabaa | . |
| 07:45.29 | onetwo | heysparky |
| 07:45.31 | onetwo | join! |
| 07:46.19 | Fatal510 | tabaa |
| 07:46.23 | Fatal510 | wanna play my map? |
| 07:47.29 | Fatal510 | anyone wanna join us in playing my map? |
| 07:47.39 | onetwo | me and sixen are there |
| 07:47.42 | onetwo | if you want brownie points |
| 07:47.44 | onetwo | you better join |
| 07:47.45 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:48.39 | Fatal510 | comon people |
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| 07:48.52 | onetwo | heysparky were going |
| 07:48.54 | StarcraftScienti | hey everybody |
| 07:48.59 | StarcraftScienti | aww cut off |
| 07:50.11 | Sixen | Shadow! did you ever get my e-mail? :P |
| 07:54.38 | Tabaa | Is it possible to make more resources then minerals and gas? if I want for example mine minerals gas gold and iron. |
| 07:54.59 | Sixen | Yeah, there's 4 total resources. |
| 07:55.10 | Sixen | Minerals, Vespene, Terrazine, Custom, and then Supply if you want tocount it. So 5. |
| 07:55.20 | Ignorance | I am Ignorance, king of the Franks! |
| 07:55.27 | Tabaa | I see |
| 07:55.29 | Sixen | I'll be King of the Kevin's. |
| 07:57.06 | Ignorance | lol, I was looking to see if Tehwildcard has uploaded his video of my map yet |
| 07:57.10 | Ignorance | and someone else made one |
| 07:57.10 | Ignorance | err |
| 07:57.11 | Ignorance | our map |
| 07:57.12 | Ignorance | * |
| 07:57.21 | Ignorance | since he hasn't uploaded one of multiplayer yet :P |
| 07:58.54 | onetwo | hey |
| 07:58.56 | onetwo | Tabaa |
| 07:59.07 | onetwo | i wanted to replace Minerals with Gold and Vespene with Silver in my map |
| 07:59.10 | Ignorance | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x4IrEXZyWY |
| 07:59.12 | onetwo | i got the tooltips edited from the text editor |
| 07:59.14 | onetwo | but i cant change icons |
| 07:59.17 | onetwo | for minerals etc |
| 07:59.18 | Ignorance | imo Tehwildcard's next video will be better, though. |
| 07:59.19 | onetwo | on top of UI |
| 07:59.20 | onetwo | do you know? |
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| 07:59.26 | Tabaa | nope |
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| 07:59.35 | Tabaa | I am trying to do a similar thing |
| 07:59.45 | onetwo | rrowland have you edited the minerals/vespene icon UI |
| 07:59.49 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:59.50 | ekcolnovkol | hey sixen |
| 07:59.59 | Tabaa | but also adding a new resource type |
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| 08:01.03 | onetwo | haha colbert: "James Cameron has been called in to help BP stop the oil spill... soon, it'll be in 3D!!" |
| 08:01.11 | Sixen | Hai |
| 08:01.25 | ekcolnovkol | what do you use in particular to disassemble your .sc2map files |
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| 08:02.28 | Sixen | Ladik's MPQ Editor~ |
| 08:02.39 | Sixen | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
| 08:03.01 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2251-resource-icons/#p2 |
| 08:03.06 | onetwo | thats how icons were done |
| 08:03.06 | onetwo | so far |
| 08:03.08 | onetwo | for minerals |
| 08:03.28 | ekcolnovkol | what if i want to create me own functions? |
| 08:03.33 | ekcolnovkol | is there a library somewhere |
| 08:03.43 | ekcolnovkol | or does the editor just use C++ |
| 08:06.38 | ekcolnovkol | also, that top-placed sc2 custom map... it's so unfair how fast each game is.. |
| 08:07.09 | ekcolnovkol | it's like competing with tetris by developing God of War 3 |
| 08:07.19 | onetwo | think about this |
| 08:07.25 | onetwo | a 12 player game lasting 20 mins |
| 08:07.34 | onetwo | vs a 4 player game lasting 10 mins |
| 08:07.49 | onetwo | itll be six times as popular |
| 08:07.56 | onetwo | so instead of 50 games played |
| 08:08.05 | onetwo | the other map will be at 300 |
| 08:08.09 | ekcolnovkol | they need to include the number of people playing the game in their algorithm |
| 08:08.14 | onetwo | and time |
| 08:08.15 | onetwo | etc |
| 08:08.32 | ekcolnovkol | like "X number of unique players per hour |
| 08:08.41 | ekcolnovkol | insted of "X number of games played" |
| 08:08.49 | onetwo | well what if someone keeps replaying it |
| 08:08.50 | onetwo | that should show |
| 08:08.52 | onetwo | if they love the map |
| 08:08.59 | onetwo | it needs to be time and player based |
| 08:09.03 | onetwo | not unique though |
| 08:09.04 | Ignorance | That's still a problem, though. |
| 08:09.07 | onetwo | why> |
| 08:09.09 | onetwo | time |
| 08:09.11 | Ignorance | Because how do I show off my new map to people? |
| 08:09.18 | ekcolnovkol | ? |
| 08:09.25 | onetwo | by default sort the list by last created |
| 08:09.28 | onetwo | then offer a popular tab |
| 08:09.47 | Ignorance | I think we need a search feature |
| 08:09.52 | ekcolnovkol | the thing is |
| 08:09.56 | ekcolnovkol | the system is geared for the player |
| 08:09.57 | onetwo | but you have to know the map name |
| 08:09.58 | ekcolnovkol | not the mapper |
| 08:09.59 | onetwo | who would if its new |
| 08:10.08 | onetwo | yeah well we run this town |
| 08:10.10 | Ignorance | I'd also like |
| 08:10.12 | onetwo | lol |
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| 08:10.17 | Ignorance | the ability to categorize by type |
| 08:10.20 | ekcolnovkol | if it's one extra click for the player, the mapper can go straight to the ninth level of hell |
| 08:10.26 | Ignorance | and even exclude certain types in my popular search |
| 08:10.27 | ekcolnovkol | fff |
| 08:10.45 | Ignorance | on the front page |
| 08:10.49 | Ignorance | sentry scramble |
| 08:10.50 | onetwo | exclude the first page |
| 08:10.52 | onetwo | its usually bugged out crap |
| 08:10.53 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:10.54 | Ignorance | gets roughly 80 games played |
| 08:10.56 | Ignorance | per hour |
| 08:11.05 | Ignorance | however, it then falls down due to losing my 'boost' |
| 08:11.11 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:11.13 | Ignorance | since 80 is not enough |
| 08:11.16 | Ignorance | to keep it up there |
| 08:11.19 | Fatal510 | you should reduce the max number of players to like 4-6 |
| 08:11.57 | ekcolnovkol | also, that phantom game is a great way to lose friends |
| 08:11.57 | Ignorance | down to about |
| 08:11.59 | Ignorance | 3 games per hour |
| 08:12.05 | Ignorance | phantom game? |
| 08:12.11 | ekcolnovkol | the one where it's like a normal FFA |
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| 08:12.22 | ekcolnovkol | except one random guy gets a 20x resource harvesting boost |
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| 08:12.39 | Ignorance | rofl... |
| 08:12.40 | ekcolnovkol | and you have to work together to kill him |
| 08:12.43 | Ignorance | oh god, I want to play that now |
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| 08:12.46 | ekcolnovkol | <.< |
| 08:12.47 | Ignorance | how about |
| 08:12.50 | ekcolnovkol | you're not always going to get it |
| 08:12.53 | Ignorance | "we kill everyone but me?" |
| 08:12.53 | Ignorance | ;) |
| 08:13.02 | ekcolnovkol | it's a chatting game |
| 08:13.09 | ekcolnovkol | in the end you lose friends |
| 08:13.11 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 08:13.13 | ekcolnovkol | that's all |
| 08:15.09 | ekcolnovkol | has anyone ever used "Unit uses ability" |
| 08:15.23 | ekcolnovkol | because, for some reason it haets me :( |
| 08:15.51 | onetwo | i prefer unit issued order |
| 08:15.53 | onetwo | and find ability that way |
| 08:15.55 | ekcolnovkol | yes but |
| 08:16.02 | ekcolnovkol | i need the trigger to activate when charge goes off |
| 08:16.06 | ekcolnovkol | not when i tell the unit to charge |
| 08:16.18 | ekcolnovkol | see the difference? |
| 08:17.41 | onetwo | *pretends to be afk* |
| 08:17.49 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 08:19.11 | onetwo | k well to change mineral and vespene icon |
| 08:19.18 | onetwo | have to export from mpq editor |
| 08:19.23 | onetwo | then import back in and overwrrite |
| 08:19.26 | onetwo | :/ |
| 08:19.45 | ekcolnovkol | onetwo |
| 08:19.50 | ekcolnovkol | what's your map project |
| 08:19.57 | onetwo | just a good ole RPG |
| 08:20.01 | ekcolnovkol | o |
| 08:20.07 | ekcolnovkol | 1 player? |
| 08:20.10 | onetwo | 6 |
| 08:20.21 | ekcolnovkol | so, like those "9 blademaster" maps |
| 08:20.50 | onetwo | dont remember that |
| 08:20.56 | onetwo | its more like a team-based rpg |
| 08:20.59 | ekcolnovkol | yeah |
| 08:21.02 | onetwo | like cot rpg |
| 08:21.02 | onetwo | etc |
| 08:21.09 | onetwo | im trying to do one well |
| 08:21.13 | onetwo | because the war3 ones always had issues |
| 08:21.16 | onetwo | exploits |
| 08:21.16 | onetwo | etc |
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| 08:24.01 | casperb | hey hey guys |
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| 08:25.27 | ekcolnovkol | hi |
| 08:25.27 | ekcolnovkol | :U |
| 08:28.58 | onetwo | anyone used .dds files before |
| 08:29.02 | onetwo | and know what to save as? |
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| 08:31.11 | Jcup | Haii |
| 08:31.17 | Jcup | Sup |
| 08:31.19 | Jcup | Guys |
| 08:33.04 | onetwo | hi |
| 08:34.00 | heysparky | onetwo, your TD tutorials don't use the Wave functions that I can tell... am I watching the wrong ones? |
| 08:34.32 | onetwo | what do you mean by wave functions? |
| 08:34.46 | heysparky | the functions that have the word 'wave' in them |
| 08:34.49 | Coldfusionstorm | the inbuild functions for doing waves |
| 08:34.51 | onetwo | the spawning of enemies right? |
| 08:34.57 | onetwo | ??? |
| 08:34.57 | heysparky | all sorts of things |
| 08:35.01 | heysparky | but, yes |
| 08:35.03 | heysparky | those |
| 08:35.05 | Coldfusionstorm | (wich i dont know how works btw) |
| 08:35.05 | onetwo | okay i have no idea then |
| 08:35.09 | onetwo | i thought you meant like waves for a TD |
| 08:35.14 | onetwo | sorry |
| 08:35.18 | onetwo | i have no idea waht these waves are |
| 08:35.18 | heysparky | well, I'm guessing these can be used for that |
| 08:35.19 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:35.22 | onetwo | oh |
| 08:35.22 | onetwo | cool |
| 08:35.33 | heysparky | but I don't know, I want to see htem in action |
| 08:35.48 | heysparky | good tutorials tho |
| 08:35.53 | heysparky | nice work |
| 08:36.04 | onetwo | thx, sorry to waste your time |
| 08:36.05 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:36.52 | ShadowTiger | so can someone fill me in... anything important happen sc2-wise in the last 2 weeks? |
| 08:37.14 | Coldfusionstorm | Nope, b.net 2.0 is still crap |
| 08:37.18 | Coldfusionstorm | oh, and a new patch |
| 08:37.27 | Coldfusionstorm | also, this is funny http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171672128&sid=5000&pageNo=2 |
| 08:38.53 | onetwo | Ultralisk: HOAIDJGLAGLA EAGOHA SNEEREERK GRUMENLEA AGOIAGENKNAG AKBFLA ABSNNNNNNNRK IAEGJKBNAKE AGJOAE candlelit dinners, walks on the beach, OAHEGKLBA AEGFBAELJB<MAE BEOFR AROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR |
| 08:38.56 | onetwo | thats a pickup line? |
| 08:38.57 | onetwo | hahah |
| 08:39.05 | Coldfusionstorm | xD |
| 08:39.09 | Coldfusionstorm | ahaha |
| 08:39.49 | onetwo | half of them reference rape or prostitution lol |
| 08:39.57 | Coldfusionstorm | "You're hotter than an Infernal Pre-Igniter Flame Cannon." |
| 08:39.58 | Coldfusionstorm | xD |
| 08:40.39 | Coldfusionstorm | LOL "You put me in siege mode" |
| 08:40.41 | Coldfusionstorm | XD |
| 08:44.29 | Clord | lol someone could argue that "pre-igniter" upgrade for flamethrowers not make sense |
| 08:44.30 | Clord | XD |
| 08:45.09 | Clord | then again it does not either make sense that armies research same stuff over and over |
| 08:45.25 | ShadowTiger | i bet 1 million dollars that blizzard wont fix the point defense laser memory leak |
| 08:45.30 | ShadowTiger | what do you think? |
| 08:45.37 | Coldfusionstorm | æpæ what? |
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| 08:45.48 | Coldfusionstorm | point defence laser memeory leak? |
| 08:45.55 | Clord | >_> |
| 08:45.57 | Clord | it means what it says |
| 08:45.58 | Clord | lol |
| 08:45.59 | Coldfusionstorm | Damn, "spawns point drone as last defence" |
| 08:46.04 | Clord | :) |
| 08:46.07 | Clord | fatal error! |
| 08:46.18 | Coldfusionstorm | "Fatal Error - BSOD" |
| 08:46.32 | Coldfusionstorm | son of a b.(boom) |
| 08:46.34 | Clord | then time to change from XP |
| 08:46.36 | Clord | to windows 7 |
| 08:46.39 | Clord | if it BSOD ;) |
| 08:47.00 | ShadowTiger | well basically i gave a unit the point defense laser beam |
| 08:47.04 | ShadowTiger | and it shot 10 times /sec |
| 08:47.08 | Coldfusionstorm | its the future, it was a hybrid system, linux were too awesome so they implemented the BSOD from XP |
| 08:47.11 | ShadowTiger | and after about 5 min my fps was < 10 |
| 08:47.19 | ShadowTiger | its a video memory leak... |
| 08:47.21 | Coldfusionstorm | that kinda sucked |
| 08:47.44 | Coldfusionstorm | isnt it today the beta ends? |
| 08:47.51 | Coldfusionstorm | or have they extendted it again? |
| 08:47.52 | ShadowTiger | nooooooo today my life ends |
| 08:47.57 | Clord | yesterday |
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| 08:48.01 | Clord | lol |
| 08:48.03 | Clord | yeah |
| 08:48.04 | Clord | today |
| 08:48.05 | Clord | XD |
| 08:48.10 | onetwo | comp crashed :( |
| 08:48.26 | ShadowTiger | So my video game company is about to release an online RTS trading card game |
| 08:48.39 | ShadowTiger | do you think SC players will be interested in testing it? |
| 08:48.47 | ekcolnovkol | ? |
| 08:48.48 | ekcolnovkol | wat |
| 08:48.50 | ShadowTiger | during the lack of beta? |
| 08:49.26 | ekcolnovkol | what company |
| 08:49.26 | ShadowTiger | game is www.jollygrim.com |
| 08:49.26 | ShadowTiger | its a small start-u |
| 08:49.26 | Coldfusionstorm | well, i wont be buying any card games |
| 08:49.26 | ShadowTiger | its free to play |
| 08:49.31 | ShadowTiger | you only have to pay for being lazy |
| 08:49.33 | ekcolnovkol | holy crapping fffff |
| 08:49.37 | Clord | it looks like game is aimed to females |
| 08:49.38 | Clord | lol |
| 08:49.53 | ShadowTiger | the art is... |
| 08:49.56 | ekcolnovkol | i am raging to hard right now |
| 08:49.57 | Coldfusionstorm | isnt that like a good thing? |
| 08:50.11 | ShadowTiger | but theres also art that is clearly aimed at males *wink* |
| 08:50.21 | ekcolnovkol | *pedophiles |
| 08:50.27 | ekcolnovkol | *wink* ? |
| 08:50.41 | Clord | thanks to worldwide culture... I can't be seen playing game like that |
| 08:50.46 | Clord | it is too femine |
| 08:50.48 | ShadowTiger | thats just one card |
| 08:51.01 | ShadowTiger | click the image gallery |
| 08:51.06 | Clord | feminine I correct XD |
| 08:51.06 | ekcolnovkol | i'm afraid to |
| 08:51.22 | ekcolnovkol | this looks like Bleedman trying to render his characters |
| 08:51.53 | ekcolnovkol | in my opinion, i think your artists are trying too hard |
| 08:52.00 | ekcolnovkol | look at pokemans |
| 08:52.02 | Clord | voila.... we have heartless http://www.jollygrim.com/images/artwork/The_Tin_Man.jpg |
| 08:52.04 | Clord | XD |
| 08:52.28 | ekcolnovkol | is this a one-man startup? |
| 08:52.29 | ShadowTiger | well we have 3 different artists |
| 08:52.32 | ekcolnovkol | o |
| 08:52.38 | ShadowTiger | http://www.jollygrim.com/images/artwork/Quasimodo.jpg <--- this guy draws really dark stuff |
| 08:52.57 | ekcolnovkol | his head looks flat |
| 08:53.02 | ShadowTiger | well there are 2 programmers, 2 designers |
| 08:53.06 | ShadowTiger | and 3 main artists |
| 08:53.08 | ekcolnovkol | and his hair looks like |
| 08:53.18 | ekcolnovkol | the rear end of a poiny |
| 08:53.20 | ekcolnovkol | *pony |
| 08:53.23 | ekcolnovkol | sorry |
| 08:53.29 | ekcolnovkol | :| |
| 08:53.29 | ShadowTiger | Yeah we dont have a web guy so that site is really old |
| 08:53.42 | ekcolnovkol | i think you need to hire some professionals |
| 08:53.42 | ShadowTiger | anyways... I will take that as a not interested? lol |
| 08:53.56 | ekcolnovkol | we're worried for you D: |
| 08:54.03 | Coldfusionstorm | Yeah |
| 08:54.12 | Clord | problem is that current site design brings bit wrong message |
| 08:54.18 | Coldfusionstorm | the website is kinda messy |
| 08:54.19 | ekcolnovkol | "bit wrong" ? |
| 08:54.23 | ekcolnovkol | lmao |
| 08:54.29 | Clord | yeah "bit wrong"... you did read right |
| 08:54.30 | Clord | lol |
| 08:54.36 | Clord | and it is "to put it nicely" |
| 08:54.37 | Clord | XD |
| 08:55.17 | ShadowTiger | anyways thanks for the feedback |
| 08:55.20 | ekcolnovkol | np |
| 08:55.22 | ekcolnovkol | it's what we're here for |
| 08:55.26 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 08:55.37 | ekcolnovkol | except when it comes to me asking for it |
| 08:55.42 | ekcolnovkol | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 08:55.49 | ShadowTiger | the game itself is alot of fun... except no zergling rush |
| 08:55.50 | Clord | lol tell me about it |
| 08:56.01 | Clord | I ask how to show minimap while hiding other parts of UI |
| 08:56.03 | ekcolnovkol | i think your company lacks a seasoned artist |
| 08:56.10 | Clord | I have yet to get answer |
| 08:56.10 | ekcolnovkol | someone who knows the market |
| 08:56.11 | Clord | lol |
| 08:56.22 | ShadowTiger | yeah they are all undeducated artists who do it as a hobbee |
| 08:56.24 | onetwo | Clord |
| 08:56.25 | onetwo | cant do it |
| 08:56.30 | Clord | yeah |
| 08:56.32 | Clord | I found out later |
| 08:56.33 | ShadowTiger | well actually the make a living off of small commisions |
| 08:56.33 | Clord | by myself |
| 08:56.35 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:56.46 | ekcolnovkol | eh |
| 08:56.51 | ekcolnovkol | good luck? :s |
| 08:56.53 | Clord | it makes 3rd person shooters really blow without proper minimap |
| 08:56.54 | ShadowTiger | Well technically you can make your own minimap |
| 08:57.06 | ekcolnovkol | i'd be scared for my life if that game became popular, is all |
| 08:57.17 | ShadowTiger | well theres always the asian market : p |
| 08:57.21 | ekcolnovkol | eh |
| 08:57.24 | ekcolnovkol | not really |
| 08:57.29 | ekcolnovkol | they have pokemans |
| 08:57.42 | Clord | pokeson! |
| 08:57.42 | ShadowTiger | pokemon is not an RTS -_- |
| 08:57.44 | ekcolnovkol | and sports |
| 08:57.56 | ekcolnovkol | oh i thought you meant a TCG |
| 08:57.58 | ekcolnovkol | sorry |
| 08:57.59 | ekcolnovkol | still |
| 08:58.02 | ShadowTiger | its an RTS TCG |
| 08:58.03 | ekcolnovkol | :f |
| 08:58.11 | ShadowTiger | hybrid! original! nice job! |
| 08:58.24 | Clord | there was RTS attempt what even got released as demo but guy went missing |
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| 08:58.29 | Clord | it was about insects and RTS... with cards |
| 08:58.34 | Clord | played like WCII |
| 08:58.36 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:58.41 | Clord | was able to trade cards etc |
| 08:58.46 | Clord | cards was units, structures etc |
| 08:58.53 | Emuscles | anyone mind helping me with some basic questions about the editor? |
| 08:58.55 | ShadowTiger | ours is more like chess |
| 08:58.57 | ShadowTiger | yeah I will help |
| 08:59.02 | ShadowTiger | for 10 min before i sleep |
| 08:59.05 | ekcolnovkol | how old are you btw |
| 08:59.08 | ekcolnovkol | just curious |
| 08:59.10 | ShadowTiger | 23 |
| 08:59.11 | Clord | http://www.google.fi/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=fi&q=magnant&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=y7QMTJrwLM2VOJmbuSM&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=6&ved=0CFEQsAQwBQ |
| 08:59.16 | ekcolnovkol | lal |
| 08:59.17 | ShadowTiger | it was my birthday last week |
| 08:59.19 | Emuscles | shadow? |
| 08:59.24 | Emuscles | were you responding to me |
| 08:59.28 | Emuscles | it was sort of quick so i wasnt sure |
| 08:59.29 | Coldfusionstorm | Congratulations Shadowtiger |
| 08:59.30 | ekcolnovkol | did you go to college for something |
| 08:59.30 | ShadowTiger | yes |
| 08:59.37 | ShadowTiger | yeah computer science |
| 08:59.47 | Emuscles | alright-- i'm a total noob, found the WASD engines/maps |
| 08:59.49 | ekcolnovkol | imo, find a job before you attempt a startup |
| 08:59.59 | ekcolnovkol | you're no Mark Zuckenberg |
| 09:00.07 | Emuscles | no |
| 09:00.09 | ShadowTiger | I joined the startup midway because I couldnt find a job... especially from Mark's company |
| 09:00.10 | ekcolnovkol | just my two cents :/ |
| 09:00.11 | Emuscles | startup out of school is fine |
| 09:00.18 | ekcolnovkol | well keep looking |
| 09:00.25 | ShadowTiger | also I'm not willing to spend the rest of my life behind a desk taking orders |
| 09:00.32 | ekcolnovkol | it's fine if you already have a strong financial background |
| 09:00.32 | ShadowTiger | If this game takes off I will be lead programmer |
| 09:00.41 | ekcolnovkol | that doesn't mean anything |
| 09:00.46 | Clord | that RTS card game failed by guy dissappearing... either their company went under or worse |
| 09:00.47 | Emuscles | a group of friends did a startup right out of comp sci-- |
| 09:00.48 | ekcolnovkol | it's just a title with no prestige |
| 09:01.07 | Emuscles | theres like no overhead.. so why not |
| 09:01.10 | ekcolnovkol | prestige before profit |
| 09:01.12 | ShadowTiger | Well this game is already done... we are hosting it this week, then applying to steam for publishing |
| 09:01.24 | ekcolnovkol | well good luck |
| 09:01.28 | ekcolnovkol | er |
| 09:01.28 | onetwo | back to sc2mapping... |
| 09:01.33 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 09:01.35 | onetwo | anyone seen this post |
| 09:01.36 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2251-resource-icons/#p2 |
| 09:01.40 | ekcolnovkol | instead of steam, you might want to try PopCap games |
| 09:01.43 | onetwo | i tried doing what the 2nd person said |
| 09:01.50 | onetwo | my resource icons arent replaced lol |
| 09:01.51 | ShadowTiger | well I would just make my first million with the SC2 marketplace |
| 09:01.54 | Emuscles | anyways shadow-- sorry, how do i take the triggers/functions from one of the shared WASD engine (maps) for use in my own map? do i need a lot of additional knowledge? |
| 09:01.56 | ShadowTiger | but eta is probably 2 years |
| 09:01.58 | ekcolnovkol | lol.. |
| 09:02.14 | ShadowTiger | you should be able to copy paste Emuscles |
| 09:02.23 | ekcolnovkol | if you do make it, i will shit my pants |
| 09:02.24 | ShadowTiger | and modify the variables if needed |
| 09:02.38 | ShadowTiger | if i make it... i will buy you new pants |
| 09:02.42 | ekcolnovkol | thanks |
| 09:02.44 | ekcolnovkol | i'll need it :( |
| 09:03.20 | Emuscles | maybe im not going about it the right way-- how do i copy and paste the triggers |
| 09:03.24 | ShadowTiger | emuscles do you already have a map made? |
| 09:03.27 | Emuscles | yea |
| 09:03.27 | ekcolnovkol | ctrl+C |
| 09:03.31 | ekcolnovkol | ctrl+V |
| 09:03.35 | ekcolnovkol | bam |
| 09:03.37 | Emuscles | sorry im using a web client so im having troubles msg you |
| 09:03.38 | Emuscles | LOL |
| 09:03.40 | ShadowTiger | or theres another way |
| 09:03.42 | Emuscles | ecko.. dude |
| 09:03.49 | Emuscles | well i cant have two maps open right |
| 09:03.50 | ShadowTiger | you can save both maps as "components" |
| 09:03.52 | ekcolnovkol | o,O |
| 09:03.58 | ekcolnovkol | sure you can |
| 09:03.59 | ShadowTiger | and then it will combine them automatically |
| 09:03.59 | Emuscles | so once i copy from teh WASD, and load my own map |
| 09:04.02 | Emuscles | it drops the clipboard |
| 09:04.09 | ShadowTiger | you load both maps |
| 09:04.10 | Emuscles | ah |
| 09:04.12 | ShadowTiger | and use window to switch |
| 09:04.23 | ShadowTiger | might work havent tested |
| 09:04.30 | Emuscles | i wasnt able to load both.. but i didnt look into it |
| 09:04.30 | ekcolnovkol | 13 DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION |
| 09:04.33 | Emuscles | i assumed you just couldnt |
| 09:04.41 | ShadowTiger | well when you load the 2nd int eh same session |
| 09:04.42 | Emuscles | okay ill try the components thing |
| 09:04.43 | ShadowTiger | they both stay open |
| 09:04.51 | ekcolnovkol | 13 TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA PARTY. ALL-NIGHT-LONG. |
| 09:04.53 | ShadowTiger | and you use the window pulldown |
| 09:04.54 | ShadowTiger | to switch |
| 09:05.06 | ShadowTiger | heyyo captain jack |
| 09:05.18 | Emuscles | yea, like most programs would.. it just didnt work like that for some reason |
| 09:05.29 | Emuscles | i'll just go w/ what you said and try it again |
| 09:05.30 | Emuscles | thanks a lot |
| 09:05.37 | ShadowTiger | okay if it doesnt work i think its called sc2components or something |
| 09:05.41 | ShadowTiger | in the save as menu |
| 09:05.47 | Emuscles | yea, rgr |
| 09:06.07 | ekcolnovkol | hey shadowtiger wanna help me out with something |
| 09:06.14 | ShadowTiger | make it fast : D |
| 09:06.18 | ShadowTiger | i have to wake up in 7 |
| 09:06.28 | ekcolnovkol | have you ever used "Unit uses ability" |
| 09:06.31 | ekcolnovkol | successfully? |
| 09:06.33 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 09:06.36 | ekcolnovkol | because it craps my pants every time |
| 09:06.54 | ShadowTiger | whats your action? |
| 09:06.58 | ekcolnovkol | charge |
| 09:07.03 | ShadowTiger | and isnt it unit uses ability command? |
| 09:07.14 | ekcolnovkol | isn't that what i said |
| 09:07.17 | Emuscles | i can't have the two sessions open at once, it automatically closes one.. |
| 09:07.27 | Emuscles | checking the sc2components thing now |
| 09:07.31 | ShadowTiger | you said "ability" so i assumed you qouted it exactly |
| 09:07.44 | onetwo | woot i got vespene replaced to be silver now |
| 09:07.49 | onetwo | but minerals is still minerals, not gold icon |
| 09:07.50 | ekcolnovkol | i just need something to happen when the ability goes off |
| 09:07.50 | onetwo | wtf |
| 09:07.51 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:07.57 | ShadowTiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.07 | ekcolnovkol | what the hell is execute stage |
| 09:08.14 | ekcolnovkol | i assumed Generic1 would be fine |
| 09:08.48 | ShadowTiger | well if you want it to trigger as soon as you issue the order |
| 09:08.54 | heysparky | great concept Shadowtiger |
| 09:08.55 | ekcolnovkol | no |
| 09:08.57 | heysparky | for jollygrim |
| 09:08.59 | ekcolnovkol | don't use Issue Order |
| 09:09.03 | ShadowTiger | cool thanks |
| 09:09.15 | heysparky | REALLY REALLY need someone to solidify art vision |
| 09:09.20 | ShadowTiger | no im saying that depending on which stage of the ability you choose |
| 09:09.28 | ekcolnovkol | when it's cast |
| 09:09.40 | ShadowTiger | it could activate as early as issue ordered |
| 09:09.47 | ShadowTiger | considering that queue is also a stage |
| 09:09.54 | ekcolnovkol | OH |
| 09:09.56 | ekcolnovkol | THAT'S WHAT I MEANS |
| 09:10.01 | ekcolnovkol | YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND |
| 09:10.07 | ekcolnovkol | ffffffffffff |
| 09:10.08 | ekcolnovkol | thanks |
| 09:10.11 | ekcolnovkol | *it |
| 09:10.13 | heysparky | I even like the name :) Jollygrim, that's good stuff |
| 09:10.14 | ekcolnovkol | asdf |
| 09:10.30 | ShadowTiger | well I will send you an "open alpha" invite |
| 09:10.33 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 09:10.38 | ShadowTiger | cuz beta implies too much functionality |
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| 09:10.55 | ekcolnovkol | beta implies that it's good ;) |
| 09:11.16 | ShadowTiger | right now our lobby screen has a list of users and 2 buttons... find a match and tutorial |
| 09:11.23 | ShadowTiger | very barebones |
| 09:11.32 | ekcolnovkol | tiger.... KNEE |
| 09:11.35 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 09:13.07 | ShadowTiger | now that I opened it for the first time in 2 weeks |
| 09:13.14 | ShadowTiger | i realize how much I love the galaxy editor |
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| 09:15.17 | onetwo | k |
| 09:15.21 | onetwo | props to anyone who figures this mystery out |
| 09:15.30 | onetwo | ive been trying to replace mineral and vespene icons on top of UI |
| 09:15.33 | onetwo | so i did this |
| 09:15.34 | onetwo | http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/701/minerlas.jpg |
| 09:15.45 | onetwo | all those are replaced with gold and silver |
| 09:15.46 | onetwo | icons |
| 09:15.56 | onetwo | and then i also did the btn-minerals as you see there |
| 09:16.00 | onetwo | there was no btn-gas |
| 09:16.07 | onetwo | or btn-vespene |
| 09:16.13 | onetwo | i go ingame... |
| 09:16.20 | onetwo | and only the vespene icon is replaced |
| 09:16.28 | onetwo | this is odd.... |
| 09:16.35 | heysparky | when a function is done, like, you have a while loop that finishes... does it free up its thread? |
| 09:16.41 | ekcolnovkol | shadow |
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| 09:16.51 | ShadowTiger | did you change gameplay UI in data editor onetow? |
| 09:16.59 | ekcolnovkol | why are you not helping me make heroes :( |
| 09:17.04 | onetwo | what exactly, in there? |
| 09:17.21 | ShadowTiger | if i remember correctly it has the path for the minerals/gas icon |
| 09:17.31 | ShadowTiger | so you can change it easily |
| 09:17.31 | onetwo | REALLY? |
| 09:17.32 | onetwo | i couldnt find it |
| 09:17.37 | ShadowTiger | maybe im wrong |
| 09:17.45 | Pandepic | random playability question |
| 09:17.45 | ShadowTiger | i definetly saw it somewhere |
| 09:18.08 | Pandepic | do you think 2 hotkeys for a spell |
| 09:18.08 | Pandepic | is a big barrier compared to 1 hotkey? |
| 09:18.08 | ShadowTiger | i can help you make heroes now ekcolnovkol |
| 09:18.10 | Pandepic | like if I do 2 hotkeys I can fit many more spells in the command card |
| 09:18.12 | ShadowTiger | aka mouthful |
| 09:18.18 | Pandepic | but it's harder for people to use |
| 09:18.35 | ShadowTiger | I think its fine |
| 09:18.50 | ShadowTiger | my suggestion is let them hotkey abilities using the middle row of the command card |
| 09:18.59 | ShadowTiger | and have submenus on the bottom row |
| 09:19.07 | ShadowTiger | so basically use triggers and dummy abilities |
| 09:19.12 | ShadowTiger | for the "ability hotkeys" |
| 09:19.43 | Emuscles | LOL my video card is so fucked... when i zoom out while using the galaxy editor, it starts making a rattling noise... |
| 09:19.45 | heysparky | I think I just felt an earthquake |
| 09:19.51 | Pandepic | oh that's a good idea shadow =) |
| 09:20.04 | Pandepic | so their 5 favourite spells |
| 09:20.08 | Pandepic | can be 1 hotkey accessible |
| 09:20.14 | ShadowTiger | your fan could be loose... lol |
| 09:20.32 | ShadowTiger | yeah i came up with that myself |
| 09:20.37 | ShadowTiger | for making a d2 style rpg |
| 09:21.11 | Pandepic | cool |
| 09:21.20 | Pandepic | hmm, I can change the terrain type without making a new map yes? |
| 09:21.24 | Pandepic | by changing the textures |
| 09:21.27 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 09:21.37 | ShadowTiger | you can just pulldown and do it all at once |
| 09:21.37 | Pandepic | good, then I wont need to copy anything to a new map |
| 09:21.41 | ShadowTiger | or switch them individually |
| 09:21.45 | ShadowTiger | you can also resize too |
| 09:21.49 | Pandepic | was worried about this multi map rpg |
| 09:21.52 | Pandepic | for doing the next map |
| 09:21.59 | Pandepic | but I realised I should just repaint the same one over and over |
| 09:22.02 | Pandepic | and modify the terrain |
| 09:22.05 | onetwo | nope shadowtiger |
| 09:22.07 | onetwo | just wentr hough |
| 09:22.12 | onetwo | went through* |
| 09:22.12 | ShadowTiger | yeah im checking |
| 09:22.20 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2251-resource-icons/#p2 |
| 09:22.23 | onetwo | this person on forums |
| 09:22.25 | onetwo | said we have to import |
| 09:22.33 | ShadowTiger | you can choose which ones show under "races" |
| 09:22.36 | ShadowTiger | but not their icons |
| 09:22.37 | onetwo | but i imported what he said and nothing.. only by importing btn-minerals and changing that |
| 09:22.46 | onetwo | did vespene somehow change |
| 09:22.49 | onetwo | really odd |
| 09:22.51 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:23.01 | Pandepic | lol |
| 09:23.03 | Pandepic | onetwo |
| 09:23.09 | Pandepic | obviously you have to replace btn0minerals |
| 09:23.11 | Pandepic | to change vespene |
| 09:23.13 | Pandepic | duh |
| 09:23.19 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:23.23 | ShadowTiger | maybe they are switched |
| 09:23.24 | onetwo | are you joking |
| 09:23.27 | onetwo | because im going mad atm |
| 09:23.30 | onetwo | theres no btn-gas |
| 09:23.30 | Pandepic | =P |
| 09:23.34 | onetwo | theres only btn-vespene-geyser |
| 09:23.35 | Emuscles | alright.. how am i supposed to copy triggers from one map to another? (bottom frame, not the library) |
| 09:23.36 | Pandepic | obviously to change gas |
| 09:23.37 | onetwo | and it has the no icon image |
| 09:23.41 | Pandepic | you have to replace btn-zergling |
| 09:23.42 | ShadowTiger | in the forum post it ahs completely different image names |
| 09:23.57 | Pandepic | =D |
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| 09:24.13 | onetwo | really? |
| 09:24.16 | onetwo | mine are same as forums |
| 09:24.20 | ShadowTiger | oh |
| 09:24.39 | ekcolnovkol | doesn't quite work yet P: |
| 09:26.51 | Clord | some maps mimic outdated methods of first SC |
| 09:27.03 | Clord | like adding structures directly instead making structure for research |
| 09:28.22 | Verr82 | why does the icon for 'missing icon' look like a metal heart? |
| 09:29.30 | ShadowTiger | thats just the default icon |
| 09:29.34 | ShadowTiger | anyways night everyone |
| 09:29.40 | Clord | probably easter egg or they needed just something random for missing icons |
| 09:30.13 | Clord | it is like those textures in FPS games etc to make map maker easily to notice when there is texture missing |
| 09:30.14 | Clord | XD |
| 09:30.51 | Verr82 | yeah i just thought it was weird that it's a heart ... made out of metal. |
| 09:31.11 | heysparky | I think it's half of a hatch |
| 09:32.11 | Clord | in sci-fi theme less stuff is organic |
| 09:32.37 | Clord | organic stuff is more expected in fantasy settings.... aka outland in WoW was bit disliked being so "metallic" |
| 09:32.38 | Clord | ;) |
| 09:32.56 | Clord | some didn't really like area 52 as it was like some sci-fi there lol |
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| 09:34.41 | onetwo | weird |
| 09:34.42 | onetwo | now my |
| 09:34.45 | onetwo | icons dont work |
| 09:34.46 | onetwo | like they did |
| 09:34.50 | onetwo | that brief period |
| 09:35.36 | Emuscles | hey you guys must be familiar w/ http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/wasd-library-8-directional/ right? |
| 09:35.55 | Emuscles | or even http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/complex-topdown-wasd-movement/ .. |
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| 09:36.21 | Clord | I have started to do turn based maps... lol >_> |
| 09:36.35 | Clord | one of them is inspired from advance wars series |
| 09:37.08 | Emuscles | ew |
| 09:41.21 | Clord | custom values is handy there |
| 09:41.24 | Clord | when unit moves to tile |
| 09:41.31 | Clord | custom value tells how much defense it has |
| 09:41.35 | Clord | lol |
| 09:41.41 | Clord | factory, city or plain tile |
| 09:42.10 | onetwo | lol figured it out |
| 09:42.13 | onetwo | well kind of |
| 09:42.19 | onetwo | so my players were all my custom race of Heroes |
| 09:42.28 | onetwo | which was based on terran |
| 09:42.31 | onetwo | and terran was still bugged |
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| 09:42.36 | onetwo | but i changed my race to protoss |
| 09:42.38 | onetwo | and voila, new icons! |
| 09:43.34 | Clord | making turn based grid game with unit production is kinda fun and then other hand it reminds that |
| 09:43.42 | Clord | I can just play advance wars series |
| 09:43.45 | Clord | >_> |
| 09:46.04 | Clord | so I probably end up making it 1v1v1v1 multiplayer map |
| 09:46.10 | Clord | with 20X20 grid |
| 09:46.21 | Clord | and random city and factory placements |
| 09:46.39 | onetwo | k so |
| 09:46.42 | onetwo | Races dont work well enough |
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| 09:46.44 | onetwo | if you make a custom race |
| 09:46.46 | onetwo | you cant set UI |
| 09:46.49 | A1win | someone should make a map where your objective is to fill the map with creep while the enemy tries to stop you |
| 09:46.49 | onetwo | to a type |
| 09:47.23 | Clord | well fortress fight you can screw your allies up with running queen to creep constantly entire base |
| 09:47.28 | Clord | your terran and protoss allies thank you |
| 09:47.30 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:48.34 | Jcup | WTF o.o Trigger error on saving... "Code jump out of bounds (try reducing the size of very large functions).... |
| 09:48.47 | Jcup | >:O |
| 09:49.02 | Beider | Anyone here with some experience with designing custom weapons / abilities? I need someone to bounce some ideas off for my game design |
| 09:49.32 | `3ICE | use the whole channel :) |
| 09:49.32 | onetwo | you can bounce off of me |
| 09:49.35 | onetwo | brb |
| 09:49.40 | Beider | I suppose the whole channel would work |
| 09:49.51 | heysparky | okay gngiht folks |
| 09:50.13 | onetwo | night |
| 09:50.16 | Beider | I am designing a battle bots game, where you program your own bots do things. You can also buy items for your bots which add stats / abilities / weapons etc... |
| 09:50.32 | *** part/#sc2mapster heysparky (~heysparky@216.40.136.42) |
| 09:50.44 | Beider | Now my thinking is, would it be easiest to do the whole darn thing trigger based. Do all combat calculations in triggers, armor calculations, etc... |
| 09:51.00 | Beider | Or would it be more sensible to try to implement some combination with the data editor |
| 09:51.18 | onetwo | hmmm |
| 09:51.21 | onetwo | try data first |
| 09:51.26 | Beider | Obviously I would need to use buff behaviors to some extent, but I could have triggers apply them/remove them (or use a duration on the behavior) |
| 09:51.34 | `3ICE | data editor pros: probably more optimized than triggers thereofre less lag. trigger pros: they make sense. the data editor doesn't |
| 09:52.06 | Jcup | yay :D i know i liked the data editor for some reason :D |
| 09:52.09 | Beider | that is my thinking as well 3ice, I would have more control over the thing with triggers. It would also allow me to standardize it |
| 09:52.42 | Beider | So adding an item would be nothing more than AddItem(name) AddEffectToItem(3,Armor) |
| 09:52.44 | Beider | or something like that |
| 09:52.51 | casperb | Data Editor -> Research should be all you need Beider |
| 09:54.06 | Beider | In that case it might make most sense to give the units actual inventories and design the items as actual items |
| 09:54.18 | Beider | As that would allow for more effects than applying behaviors on units |
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| 09:54.43 | Beider | But can you give a unit an ability from an item? I suppose you can, never tried |
| 09:55.08 | casperb | Yeah |
| 09:55.20 | casperb | You can give it a buff, which allows an ability |
| 09:55.40 | Beider | hmm, I suppose that makes sense then |
| 09:55.52 | Beider | alright thanks people, that was all I needed :P Back to making my game |
| 09:56.12 | casperb | upgrades can also allow abilities tho |
| 09:56.40 | casperb | So depends if you want to be able to swap items on and off |
| 09:56.54 | casperb | versus researching 'uberlisk chain saw' and being stuck with it |
| 09:57.03 | Beider | Well it's a fighting game where I spawn units at the start of each round, so I think I will just add items to the units when they are spawned |
| 09:57.13 | Beider | just make a trigger to do that |
| 09:57.14 | Emuscles | i need a little help; new to the editor.. http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/complex-topdown-wasd-movement/ i'd love to use this on my new map-- no idea how to copy his triggers |
| 09:57.42 | onetwo | Beider let me know if you try to replace minerals and vespene icons |
| 09:57.46 | onetwo | its been hell for me |
| 09:57.53 | Emuscles | i can't seem to export any triggers from the bottom panel |
| 09:58.08 | Beider | nah, I just hid the whole UI except the F10,F11,F12 buttons |
| 09:58.10 | casperb | onetwo: can't you do that in Game UI Data? |
| 09:58.13 | Beider | I will create my own custom UI |
| 09:58.17 | `3ICE | highlight --> ctrl+c --> switch to your map --> ctrl+v |
| 09:58.24 | onetwo | casperb |
| 09:58.28 | onetwo | people have said that |
| 09:58.30 | onetwo | and gone thruogh it with me |
| 09:58.33 | onetwo | theres nothing there |
| 09:58.40 | onetwo | i imported the supposed image files too |
| 09:58.52 | Emuscles | 3ICE, my issue is.. it seems to be dropping it from the clipboard |
| 09:58.56 | Emuscles | when i get my map open |
| 09:59.11 | onetwo | http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/701/minerlas.jpg |
| 09:59.13 | `3ICE | you use the window menu to switch between two maps |
| 09:59.14 | onetwo | thats what i did |
| 09:59.18 | onetwo | and it still didnt replace them |
| 09:59.40 | `3ICE | isnt that for tooltip icon? |
| 09:59.42 | A1win | invalid format in the file? |
| 10:00.00 | onetwo | see A1win heres the weird thing |
| 10:00.17 | onetwo | when i first imported the btn-minerals (originally wasnt imported in the list you see) |
| 10:00.20 | onetwo | and went ingame |
| 10:00.27 | onetwo | vespene changed successfully and only vespene |
| 10:00.28 | onetwo | to silver |
| 10:00.31 | A1win | :> |
| 10:00.36 | onetwo | then i changed my race to protoss |
| 10:00.38 | onetwo | for player 1 |
| 10:00.42 | onetwo | and everything worked |
| 10:00.49 | onetwo | BUT then only once |
| 10:00.51 | onetwo | now it doesnt work |
| 10:00.52 | onetwo | again |
| 10:00.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:01.43 | Emuscles | thanks 3ICE |
| 10:01.48 | `3ICE | np np |
| 10:01.56 | Emuscles | i was wondering why it was dropping my copy.. heh |
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| 10:02.29 | onetwo_ | sorry got DCed |
| 10:02.34 | onetwo_ | did i miss anything |
| 10:02.37 | onetwo_ | after i typed |
| 10:02.38 | onetwo_ | last |
| 10:02.50 | `3ICE | [2010-06-07 12:00:54] <+onetwo> lol |
| 10:02.50 | `3ICE | [2010-06-07 12:01:44] <Emuscles> thanks 3ICE |
| 10:02.50 | `3ICE | [2010-06-07 12:01:49] <+`3ICE> np np |
| 10:02.50 | `3ICE | [2010-06-07 12:01:57] <Emuscles> i was wondering why it was dropping my copy.. heh |
| 10:02.56 | onetwo_ | damn |
| 10:05.19 | Emuscles | ah-- and is there anything else i'd need to copy over |
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| 10:05.28 | Emuscles | like scripting or anything |
| 10:05.38 | Emuscles | before i go and check myself... |
| 10:05.40 | onetwo | k so |
| 10:05.42 | `3ICE | onetwo you missed one line: [2010-06-07 12:05:20] <Emuscles> ah-- and is there anything else i'd need to copy over |
| 10:05.44 | onetwo | time to post on forums |
| 10:05.54 | Emuscles | lol |
| 10:05.59 | onetwo | oh Emuscles haha |
| 10:06.03 | onetwo | his crazy get rich quick schemes |
| 10:06.04 | onetwo | with wasd engines |
| 10:06.06 | onetwo | :D |
| 10:06.12 | Emuscles | exactly |
| 10:06.20 | onetwo | go into bnet-> lag out |
| 10:06.31 | onetwo | thats what happens with wasd atm ;( |
| 10:06.40 | Emuscles | ah kk good to know |
| 10:07.02 | onetwo | a lot of people were trying to make them |
| 10:07.04 | Emuscles | i don't need it! it was just experimental anyways |
| 10:07.09 | onetwo | but atm its way too much network traffic |
| 10:07.13 | onetwo | so none really worked |
| 10:08.10 | Emuscles | it'll likely always be the case, no? |
| 10:08.14 | Emuscles | w/ the way bnet works |
| 10:08.20 | onetwo | k wtf |
| 10:08.22 | onetwo | i restart my computer |
| 10:08.26 | onetwo | and now my gold and silver icons work |
| 10:08.35 | onetwo | might change in future Emuscles |
| 10:09.57 | onetwo | http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8362/goldb.jpg |
| 10:10.01 | onetwo | fyi i was mousing over gold |
| 10:10.05 | onetwo | thats how it looks now |
| 10:10.11 | onetwo | so pretty good |
| 10:10.20 | ekcolnovkol | lmao |
| 10:10.27 | ekcolnovkol | that's straight from WoW |
| 10:10.33 | onetwo | yeah |
| 10:10.38 | onetwo | i spent 10 mins googling gold and silver icons |
| 10:10.42 | onetwo | all ugly crap |
| 10:10.48 | onetwo | and i dont have a paid design team |
| 10:10.52 | onetwo | so where did i go? |
| 10:10.58 | onetwo | google: "wow gold icon" |
| 10:10.59 | onetwo | hahaha |
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| 10:13.15 | `3ICE | epic win^^ |
| 10:13.16 | Hati | ekcolnovkol: that's what wow is for :x |
| 10:13.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:13.41 | Hati | icon provider wow |
| 10:14.02 | Hati | and as blizz owns your map anyway - they don't care xD |
| 10:14.09 | onetwo | they spent however many million paying a design team |
| 10:14.13 | onetwo | yeah Hati |
| 10:14.17 | onetwo | so since they have it |
| 10:14.18 | onetwo | why not |
| 10:14.42 | onetwo | 2 weeks later in news: local map maker alias onetwo sentenced to jail for infringement on activision-blizzard |
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| 10:14.49 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:16.23 | casperb | Pretty safe bet to mod a blizz game with blizz assets |
| 10:16.37 | onetwo | haha yeah |
| 10:16.46 | casperb | And as you give up your soul and first born when you upload to b.net now it doesn't matter |
| 10:17.03 | casperb | Learning from facebook's content policy i guess :P |
| 10:17.09 | Sixen | I'll bail you out 12. |
| 10:17.33 | onetwo | haha |
| 10:17.38 | onetwo | you come with 1 dollar and 2 cents |
| 10:17.43 | Sixen | :) |
| 10:17.47 | onetwo | the sc2mapster fortune |
| 10:17.52 | onetwo | :O |
| 10:17.52 | Sixen | :( |
| 10:17.55 | Beider | hmm, I should rip off some wow icons as well |
| 10:17.57 | onetwo | ZING |
| 10:17.58 | onetwo | haha |
| 10:18.01 | Sixen | lol |
| 10:18.11 | Beider | I seem to recall you could download a wow icon pack somewhere |
| 10:18.12 | onetwo | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List |
| 10:18.13 | onetwo | ctrl+f |
| 10:18.24 | Sixen | TheLaughingMan uploaded an icon pack on mapster |
| 10:18.31 | onetwo | oh |
| 10:18.45 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/?category=icons |
| 10:19.17 | Beider | Sixen, nice! |
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| 10:19.27 | Sixen | =) |
| 10:19.34 | onetwo | Ooooh |
| 10:19.36 | Sixen | He's working on WC1/WC2/D1 as well. |
| 10:19.38 | alp82 | hey |
| 10:19.44 | Sixen | And D@* |
| 10:19.45 | Sixen | D2* |
| 10:19.46 | Azu | scary :< |
| 10:19.53 | onetwo | haha sixen |
| 10:19.57 | onetwo | hes working on getting a date |
| 10:19.59 | Sixen | :P |
| 10:20.06 | alp82 | did i get this right? someone makes sc, d2 and so on with galaxy? |
| 10:20.07 | Hati | meh <.< |
| 10:20.16 | Hati | Infamous another game just for ps3 :/ |
| 10:20.17 | Sixen | alp82, those icons. |
| 10:20.25 | alp82 | Sixen: ah ok |
| 10:20.38 | Azu | Hati: got it and beaten it with both "light and dark" lightning :P |
| 10:20.40 | Sixen | However, there'll be Maps of those games. I guarentee it. |
| 10:20.52 | Hati | got no ps3 <.< |
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| 10:20.58 | Hati | have to borrow from brother |
| 10:20.59 | casperb | hum, duke nukem forever is still being released? o.o |
| 10:21.04 | alp82 | Sixen: i saw you in the forums, are you some official guy or just the expert? :) |
| 10:21.13 | Sixen | Just an expert! :) |
| 10:21.18 | Azu | lols |
| 10:21.25 | alp82 | heh ok |
| 10:21.35 | alp82 | found this channel yesterday, extremly useful! |
| 10:21.42 | `3ICE | usefully extreme |
| 10:21.59 | casperb | ususally extreme* ? |
| 10:22.01 | casperb | :P |
| 10:22.16 | Azu | :x |
| 10:22.28 | Sixen | :O |
| 10:22.32 | Sixen | Yeah alp, we try =) |
| 10:22.45 | alp82 | in my opinion the data editor is way to complicated, but maybe i didnt got enough insight to it |
| 10:23.06 | casperb | It's rather simple once you know what goes where |
| 10:23.08 | Sixen | Meh, that's what everyone says at first glance |
| 10:23.10 | Sixen | exactly |
| 10:23.25 | alp82 | good to know |
| 10:23.27 | Azu | exactly extreme? |
| 10:23.30 | casperb | It's more or less a DAG so hard to follow the nodes around |
| 10:23.38 | alp82 | DAG? |
| 10:24.19 | casperb | Directed acyclic graph |
| 10:24.24 | onetwo | the problem is theres lots of fields we dont need |
| 10:24.24 | Beider | ah crap, they are DDS format |
| 10:24.26 | onetwo | just for Martul |
| 10:24.27 | onetwo | to break |
| 10:24.29 | casperb | i.e multi directional tree |
| 10:24.30 | alp82 | for example i tried to duplicate a unit and didnt check any of the marks to link every aspect of the unit. but there were several things like the model completly missing |
| 10:24.34 | Beider | is there any good image viewer to browse .dds icons? |
| 10:24.39 | onetwo | photoshop :( |
| 10:24.41 | `3ICE | irfan view :) |
| 10:24.42 | Hati | importer |
| 10:24.48 | `3ICE | I win. |
| 10:24.48 | casperb | photoshop |
| 10:24.55 | casperb | nvidia plugins |
| 10:24.57 | Hati | printer |
| 10:24.59 | Azu | `3ICE: you never win! |
| 10:25.04 | `3ICE | irfan view is best |
| 10:25.17 | Azu | pfft |
| 10:25.25 | `3ICE | he needs browsing, not editing |
| 10:25.29 | Hati | Paint.NET |
| 10:25.33 | `3ICE | opens slowly |
| 10:25.38 | `3ICE | ifran view is instant |
| 10:25.39 | Hati | no |
| 10:25.46 | `3ICE | well, 0.1 sec |
| 10:26.04 | Hati | if paint.net opens slowly for you something must be wrong |
| 10:26.19 | `3ICE | i actually never tried it :) |
| 10:26.22 | `3ICE | was just a guess |
| 10:26.24 | `3ICE | .net = slow |
| 10:26.36 | casperb | Not really |
| 10:26.41 | `3ICE | good to know |
| 10:26.51 | Hati | depends on code :P |
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| 10:27.03 | casperb | Actually benchmarked faster than C in some cases :P |
| 10:27.26 | Sixen2 | triplicate! |
| 10:27.39 | Beider | irfan view doesn't seem to offer a thumbnail view though+ |
| 10:27.43 | `3ICE | press T |
| 10:27.45 | `3ICE | it does |
| 10:27.57 | Beider | ah, thanks |
| 10:28.01 | `3ICE | np np |
| 10:28.08 | Azu | im soo bored :< |
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| 10:28.44 | alp82 | so why didnt the duplicate thingie work? |
| 10:28.50 | alp82 | or did i miss something? |
| 10:29.06 | casperb | What did you duplicate? |
| 10:29.11 | alp82 | a unit |
| 10:29.19 | casperb | And only the unit? |
| 10:29.23 | alp82 | i left all checkboxes unmarked |
| 10:29.24 | `3ICE | maybe you forgot to duplicate actor |
| 10:29.29 | casperb | dupe the actor aswell |
| 10:29.32 | `3ICE | check the acotr checkbox |
| 10:29.33 | casperb | actor links model->unit |
| 10:30.01 | alp82 | so i have to duplicate the actor, but the rest can be linked? because the models were completly missing too |
| 10:30.31 | `3ICE | actor is responsible for linking models to units |
| 10:30.39 | `3ICE | so all you need to duplicate is the acotr in order to fix that |
| 10:30.43 | alp82 | oh i see |
| 10:30.44 | `3ICE | actor** |
| 10:30.54 | alp82 | ok that makes sens |
| 10:31.11 | Hati | first duplication mostly fails |
| 10:31.18 | alp82 | i hope i can soon "finish" my first map :) |
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| 10:32.15 | casperb | Has anyone managed to make any sort of overpass terrain? seems impossible even from a conceptual view |
| 10:32.44 | alp82 | what do you mean by overpass terrain? |
| 10:32.51 | `3ICE | highway |
| 10:32.52 | Sixen | I think someone did on the forums |
| 10:32.53 | `3ICE | bridge |
| 10:33.01 | `3ICE | go above it & under it |
| 10:33.03 | alp82 | ok |
| 10:33.03 | `3ICE | he means that :) |
| 10:33.06 | casperb | Walk under/over |
| 10:33.11 | Sixen | http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9146/coyotecanyon.jpg |
| 10:33.20 | Sixen | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/off-topic/3158-hello-world-introduction-and-pictures-of-my-work/ -- that guy did it : |
| 10:33.21 | Sixen | :) |
| 10:33.22 | alp82 | that would be cool. as well as caves :) |
| 10:35.00 | Beider | thats a cool map design Sixen |
| 10:35.10 | Sixen | agreed. |
| 10:35.52 | Hati | hmm |
| 10:36.03 | casperb | Still only one pathing plane tho |
| 10:36.08 | Beider | Think I will need to assemble a proper team for my map once I got the coding done |
| 10:36.18 | Beider | Will need an icon designer and level designer at some point |
| 10:36.28 | Hati | http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7173/nicetool.png sweet programm |
| 10:36.34 | alp82 | lets say i duplicated a unit and just made a copy of the actor. if i decide later to also switch any effect from beeing a link to a copy, how to achieve that easily? |
| 10:37.58 | onetwo | sorry thats a hard question |
| 10:38.02 | onetwo | im not really getting the wording |
| 10:38.05 | onetwo | be very specific |
| 10:38.15 | casperb | alp82: depends on where the effect is coming from, i.e behaviours trigger effects etc |
| 10:38.23 | onetwo | you duplicated a unit |
| 10:38.26 | onetwo | i get that |
| 10:38.30 | casperb | weapon damage is an effect for example |
| 10:38.34 | onetwo | what do you mean by "just a copy of the actor" |
| 10:38.40 | onetwo | tell me what boxes you checked |
| 10:40.47 | alp82 | only the actor box. but this is just theory because i am in linux right know and cant test it atm |
| 10:41.37 | onetwo | oh |
| 10:41.53 | onetwo | if you are new then this may help |
| 10:42.05 | onetwo | you duplicate a unit but only the actor is checked |
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| 10:42.38 | onetwo | what this means is that you have your own unit, its own actor (which is necessary), and then your unit's weapon is getting from an already previous made one |
| 10:42.48 | onetwo | and a weapon has an effect to do its dmg |
| 10:42.59 | onetwo | eg weapon controls speed/range |
| 10:43.03 | onetwo | effect controls dmg/target |
| 10:43.06 | onetwo | and unit has weapon |
| 10:43.20 | onetwo | so in your case, what youd do is then just find the weapon |
| 10:43.21 | onetwo | in the weapon tab |
| 10:43.24 | onetwo | duplicate that |
| 10:43.26 | onetwo | and check effect |
| 10:43.36 | onetwo | then modify the effect/weapon to w/e dmg/attack speed you want |
| 10:43.37 | onetwo | icon etc |
| 10:43.45 | onetwo | then go back into the unit andscroll to the weapons+ field |
| 10:43.49 | onetwo | open it and remove the old thing |
| 10:43.51 | onetwo | and then find your new one |
| 10:43.55 | onetwo | and now you have a copy |
| 10:43.56 | onetwo | essentially |
| 10:44.00 | onetwo | of the weapon and effect |
| 10:44.01 | alp82 | that was good explained, i think i understood that |
| 10:44.04 | onetwo | kk |
| 10:44.13 | onetwo | e.g. copy Probe and duplicate actor |
| 10:44.18 | onetwo | rename your new probe to SUPERPROBE |
| 10:44.32 | onetwo | superprobe still uses the regular probe attack beam weapon |
| 10:44.36 | alp82 | sounds easy, it's like you said: one has to know how to stuff to see that |
| 10:44.38 | onetwo | so any changes to it will affect both you and probe |
| 10:44.50 | alp82 | yes i can see that |
| 10:44.54 | onetwo | kk |
| 10:44.58 | onetwo | :D |
| 10:45.17 | alp82 | +do |
| 10:45.44 | alp82 | so what maps you are working on? |
| 10:45.52 | alp82 | something cool i assume? :P |
| 10:46.21 | onetwo | rpg |
| 10:46.23 | onetwo | just a standard one |
| 10:46.27 | onetwo | not trying to go insane |
| 10:46.32 | onetwo | just doing some regular top down gameplay |
| 10:46.34 | onetwo | with cool heroes |
| 10:46.36 | onetwo | good quests |
| 10:46.38 | onetwo | good items |
| 10:46.40 | alp82 | thats usually a bone-breaker anyway |
| 10:46.42 | onetwo | and saving/loading |
| 10:46.44 | onetwo | yeah |
| 10:47.40 | onetwo | ttyl |
| 10:47.42 | alp82 | after i finish my chess map, i'd like to make a competitive teamgame. like a tactical game inspired by Z (if anyone here knows that genius piece of game) |
| 10:52.20 | Clord | I think there is lack of inventing to improve chess |
| 10:52.25 | Clord | XD |
| 10:52.40 | Clord | I mean hundreds of years and what we have... maybe some japanese and chinese variation |
| 10:52.41 | Clord | lol |
| 10:53.03 | `3ICE | What's wrong with the current rule set? |
| 10:54.13 | `3ICE | e.g.: Why would you change? |
| 10:55.10 | alp82 | Clord: i didnt start a chess map to make something innovative, just to learn the editor. beside that, there are cool improvements possible when it comes to beating opposite pieces :) |
| 10:55.36 | `3ICE | I like playing attack/death animations on chess pieces. |
| 10:56.20 | alp82 | what would you guys like to be added to a starcraft 2 chess |
| 10:56.58 | `3ICE | Minimap that shows a chess board and pieces. |
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| 10:57.09 | `3ICE | So I don't confuse marauders with marines |
| 10:57.19 | Clord | 1v1v1v1 chess would rock lol |
| 10:57.25 | `3ICE | Not quite possible |
| 10:57.31 | Clord | but then there is confusion of movement |
| 10:57.33 | Clord | =) |
| 10:57.35 | alp82 | Clord: how is that supposed to work? |
| 10:57.36 | Clord | it would mean |
| 10:57.53 | Clord | weird system |
| 10:57.54 | alp82 | `3ICE: very cool idea, i'll try that |
| 10:58.19 | `3ICE | np np |
| 10:59.13 | Clord | when piece would reach opposite end.... it would teleport back |
| 10:59.21 | Clord | lol XD |
| 10:59.39 | `3ICE | Clord is making a fool of himself -.- |
| 10:59.43 | `3ICE | Do you even play chess? |
| 10:59.54 | Clord | I don't mean that typical chess |
| 10:59.58 | Clord | I mean custom chess idea |
| 11:00.06 | alp82 | i think i wont do any custom chess rules |
| 11:00.18 | `3ICE | I wholeheartedly support your decision. |
| 11:00.19 | alp82 | but promotion of pawns is still on my todo list |
| 11:00.40 | alp82 | i think i'll create some dialogs for that |
| 11:00.41 | Clord | not everyone is made to invent |
| 11:00.55 | alp82 | i'll invent stuff on my next map :P |
| 11:01.20 | Clord | WCIII had that one awesome map with chess like board but it was forces was top, bottom, left and right |
| 11:01.26 | Clord | I mean ice |
| 11:01.28 | Clord | XD |
| 11:01.30 | Clord | meant |
| 11:01.50 | Clord | left and right forces obviously moved bit differently than top and bottom forces |
| 11:01.58 | Clord | so they could collide with other forces |
| 11:02.33 | Clord | it is just like chess expect left forces move right.. right forces left and bottom and top like they normally do |
| 11:02.46 | alp82 | weird :) |
| 11:03.04 | Clord | I can visualise it in my head |
| 11:03.23 | Clord | now add to that teleporting back when forces reach other end and they don't get stuck.... voila |
| 11:03.25 | `3ICE | So can I |
| 11:03.28 | `3ICE | huge clusterfuck |
| 11:03.33 | `3ICE | how'd you place rooks? |
| 11:03.49 | `3ICE | why would stuff get stuck on a chess board?? |
| 11:03.59 | `3ICE | we can move backwards y'know... |
| 11:04.08 | `3ICE | and pawns turn into other pieces |
| 11:04.14 | `3ICE | when they reach the other end |
| 11:04.39 | alp82 | exactly :> |
| 11:04.41 | Clord | that is more for pawns |
| 11:04.49 | Clord | so they don't stay there uselessly |
| 11:04.50 | Clord | XD |
| 11:04.56 | `3ICE | what the hell... |
| 11:05.04 | `3ICE | Clord go play a game of chess please. |
| 11:05.17 | `3ICE | pawns do not stay there useless, they turn into other pieces |
| 11:05.19 | `3ICE | pawn promotion |
| 11:05.37 | `3ICE | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promotion_(chess) |
| 11:05.53 | Clord | yeah but as it would be custom map.. I don't need to care of such rule |
| 11:06.07 | `3ICE | Please don't make a chess map. |
| 11:06.31 | alp82 | :D |
| 11:06.39 | alp82 | no need to, i do that already heh |
| 11:06.52 | `3ICE | There already is a chess map btw. :) |
| 11:06.56 | `3ICE | its on youtube too |
| 11:07.03 | alp82 | i know, chesscraft |
| 11:07.09 | Clord | there is like tons chess maps in WCIII too |
| 11:07.11 | alp82 | saw that after beginning the map |
| 11:08.02 | Clord | there is Chess but there is no Shogi |
| 11:08.05 | Clord | XD |
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| 11:20.36 | Beider | ack I keep getting sidetracked when trying to work on my map |
| 11:20.41 | Beider | always some little thing to take care of |
| 11:20.54 | `3ICE | I get sidetracked making maps when I should be studying for finals :) |
| 11:22.06 | alp82 | ok `3ICE is studying and Beider probably still at school :D |
| 11:23.58 | Beider | me? no |
| 11:24.13 | Beider | However currently between jobs |
| 11:24.40 | Beider | so got lots of time for making maps, helps keeping me from getting bored out of my mind |
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| 11:27.07 | rrowland | uggg my head |
| 11:28.22 | alp82 | i see :) |
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| 11:30.51 | Clord | I might in future localize my maps to japanese too.... but it gonna still take quite some time that I'm that good in it |
| 11:33.51 | alp82 | like knowing chess rules? :D |
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| 11:40.14 | Azu | LAN is win |
| 11:40.26 | `3ICE | lan is not included :( |
| 11:40.27 | Azu | and you have to type it with caps |
| 11:40.30 | Azu | well |
| 11:40.35 | Azu | my bro came home today |
| 11:40.39 | Azu | so |
| 11:40.42 | Azu | we are 3 |
| 11:40.42 | Azu | >< |
| 11:41.13 | Azu | and we are probably gonna play battletanks :P |
| 11:41.40 | alp82 | wouldnt that be unbaanced 1on2? |
| 11:41.45 | Azu | well |
| 11:41.45 | alp82 | l |
| 11:41.47 | Azu | online |
| 11:41.52 | alp82 | ah |
| 11:43.06 | Clord | alp82 you idiot... of course I know chess rules |
| 11:43.07 | Clord | lol |
| 11:43.16 | Clord | it does not stop making chess variations |
| 11:43.33 | alp82 | Clord: no need for beeing rude, i just fool around with you |
| 11:43.34 | Clord | like Shogi |
| 11:43.34 | `3ICE | well it should... |
| 11:43.46 | Clord | I know but it is getting rather annoying lol |
| 11:43.47 | Clord | XD |
| 11:43.54 | Clord | it was fun first |
| 11:43.59 | alp82 | sorry ;) |
| 11:46.00 | Azu | http://i50.tinypic.com/2j17hx3.jpg lan (y) |
| 11:47.39 | alp82 | wow unbelievable |
| 11:50.22 | Clord | yeah it must blow to have input delay because everything goes via closest battle.net server |
| 11:50.28 | Clord | during LAN |
| 11:50.36 | Clord | and if battle.net screws over for even split second |
| 11:50.38 | Clord | boom! |
| 11:50.47 | alp82 | :) |
| 11:50.54 | Clord | :) |
| 11:51.37 | Clord | rlslog.net again got shutted from server hoster even thought site is 100% legal |
| 11:51.38 | Clord | XD |
| 11:51.52 | Clord | that site is quite good information source |
| 11:52.00 | alp82 | sc2 + galaxy with wine would be cool |
| 11:52.42 | Clord | bah.. can't program damn while drunk |
| 11:52.47 | Clord | I mean trigger.. whatever |
| 11:52.48 | Clord | XD |
| 11:53.20 | alp82 | then you drank either too much or too less |
| 11:53.25 | Clord | it has been extremely long time when I was drunk last time but I tried to play multiplayer FPS drunk back then and it didn't go that well |
| 11:53.45 | alp82 | http://xkcd.com/323/ |
| 11:53.49 | Clord | Wolfenstein Enemy Territory trying to keep tank going drunk |
| 11:53.59 | Clord | or was it preventing it from moving.. whatever... I was drunk |
| 11:54.51 | Clord | lol funny comic |
| 11:57.07 | Clord | played advance wars days of ruin and damn it was EASY XD |
| 11:57.25 | Clord | mission what putted some challenge was final but that is |
| 12:02.56 | Clord | lately games has been quite easy and difficulty settings missing |
| 12:03.46 | alp82 | thats right |
| 12:04.00 | alp82 | nowadays games are for the mass |
| 12:04.09 | alp82 | mass effect 2 was way to easy |
| 12:07.14 | depthsofchaos | do it on insane dificulty ? |
| 12:07.21 | depthsofchaos | not easy at all :o |
| 12:08.24 | casperb | should insane settings be beatable? :P |
| 12:10.13 | depthsofchaos | probably but i couldnt bother to finish it :o |
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| 12:24.49 | `3ICE | 0.1337 Blood Alcohol concentration causes a sudden unexpected spike in programming skill. |
| 12:25.06 | Coldfusionstorm | Myth? or Real? |
| 12:25.10 | `3ICE | myth |
| 12:25.15 | alp82 | real |
| 12:25.20 | Coldfusionstorm | hahaha |
| 12:26.25 | Fukle | For some reason, I duplicated the Dark Templar unit and now the duplicated dark templar has to attack twice to do damage... Anyone know why this is? |
| 12:26.53 | alp82 | weird |
| 12:27.17 | Fukle | Like I haven't really changed any combat or animation things on him. |
| 12:27.25 | Fukle | So I can't find any explaination.. o.o |
| 12:28.28 | `3ICE | other guy had similar issue two days ago |
| 12:28.51 | `3ICE | unresolved... |
| 12:29.21 | Fukle | hmm |
| 12:29.25 | Fukle | Might be a bug |
| 12:30.16 | Fukle | Also where may I find the Damage on the Dark Templar? |
| 12:30.20 | Fukle | I can't seem to find it.] |
| 12:30.54 | Fukle | nvm |
| 12:30.56 | Fukle | found it haha |
| 12:43.20 | casperb | `3ICE: Myth, but production does increase, altough the code produced does the opposite :P |
| 12:44.28 | casperb | mostly due to not being able to differentiate between < > operators :P |
| 12:51.41 | alp82 | i think that should be too hard |
| 12:51.45 | alp82 | shouldnt |
| 12:51.59 | `3ICE | Try it while drunk :) |
| 12:52.05 | alp82 | but design choices beeing made are mostly rubbish |
| 12:52.08 | alp82 | i did :D |
| 12:52.20 | `3ICE | I have never been drunk. |
| 12:52.25 | `3ICE | Proud of that |
| 12:52.29 | alp82 | cool |
| 12:52.46 | alp82 | and i never smoked a cigarette ^^ |
| 12:53.42 | Coldfusionstorm | ive done both |
| 12:53.51 | Coldfusionstorm | AND decided that it wasnt something i wanted to do |
| 12:54.18 | Coldfusionstorm | Mosly because it wasnt enought to drown, the ever truthfull truths residing in my head |
| 13:01.07 | Clord | I mostly desired against alcohol when it caused opposite effect what people normally seek |
| 13:01.13 | Clord | plus I was too damn resistant against it |
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| 14:42.57 | Fisker | I usually never preorder anything |
| 14:43.07 | Fisker | So i wait until it's in stock |
| 14:43.22 | Fisker | Because it's possible there might be a better price or a completely different vendor with it before that |
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| 14:49.37 | Shadowclaimer | wait is there no way to amke inventory items on the ground o.O |
| 14:50.13 | Shadowclaimer | nvm |
| 14:50.15 | Shadowclaimer | ignore that |
| 14:50.32 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/crush-company-mission-last-hope/. Crush Company - Mission: The Last hope. Bibendus (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 14:50.54 | Clord | hehe you realized they are just units? |
| 14:50.55 | Clord | XD |
| 14:51.40 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/nexus-destroyers/. NEXUS DESTROYERS. MapCrafter (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 14:51.43 | nicoli_s | i remember trying to figure out how items worked without the editor, that was fun |
| 14:51.47 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starcraft-1-zerg-mission-1-among/. Starcraft 1 Zerg Mission #1: Among the Ruins v1.0. Wunterwaffen (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 14:51.49 | nicoli_s | but we were able to do it! |
| 14:51.59 | Shadowclaimer | so apparently the Items in the data editor are not the same as the unit items? |
| 14:52.03 | Shadowclaimer | or do I have to bidn the two togetehr somehow |
| 14:52.09 | HP-X|Arthas | so whats up ppl :D |
| 14:53.27 | nicoli_s | work work work |
| 14:53.32 | nicoli_s | almost vacation time :) |
| 14:53.41 | HP-X|Arthas | nice :) |
| 14:53.48 | HP-X|Arthas | how many weeks vacation? |
| 14:54.24 | nicoli_s | just 1, going to a music festival |
| 14:54.40 | Shadowclaimer | so I'm going to assume making a drop system that randomly creates items will be hell |
| 14:54.53 | Shadowclaimer | Hell ebing an understatement |
| 14:55.09 | Clord | random drop system should be rather easy to achieve |
| 14:55.21 | Shadowclaimer | where it generates the item's stats rnadomly on drop? |
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| 14:56.10 | Psiclone | hello |
| 14:57.35 | HP-X|Arthas | nicoli_s: ah ok, dont forget to take some more vacation later on eh |
| 14:57.40 | HP-X|Arthas | rock festival? |
| 14:57.43 | nicoli_s | all sorts |
| 14:57.46 | nicoli_s | bonnaroo |
| 14:57.51 | nicoli_s | its got a little bit for everyone |
| 14:58.06 | nicoli_s | its like my only time a year to get back in the hippie spirit :P |
| 14:58.08 | HP-X|Arthas | nice |
| 14:58.19 | HP-X|Arthas | most festivals around here are towards particular genres |
| 14:58.28 | HP-X|Arthas | fucing hippies ;p |
| 14:58.35 | nicoli_s | lol, well i was raised a hippie |
| 14:58.45 | nicoli_s | hippies rather |
| 14:58.50 | nicoli_s | mom, dad, stepdad all hippies |
| 14:59.06 | HP-X|Arthas | hehe |
| 14:59.28 | Shadowclaimer | This item stuff is insane.. |
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| 14:59.44 | Shadowclaimer | and the associated tooltips that explain it even slightly don't really exist |
| 14:59.44 | HP-X|Arthas | anyway just wanted to check in a quickie. hope you have a great vacation mate |
| 14:59.57 | HP-X|Arthas | shadow? |
| 15:00.02 | Shadowclaimer | ? |
| 15:00.17 | HP-X|Arthas | tooltips for items? |
| 15:00.28 | Shadowclaimer | no tooltips on the fields that explain what I need to get an item working |
| 15:00.45 | HP-X|Arthas | ah, in the editor |
| 15:00.45 | Shadowclaimer | I think the item is finished, its getting the unit to have an inventory that's kerpsloding |
| 15:00.50 | Shadowclaimer | yea =( |
| 15:01.10 | HP-X|Arthas | well, what parts do you have |
| 15:01.18 | Shadowclaimer | Item done |
| 15:01.25 | Shadowclaimer | Container created (albeit don't know if I did it right) |
| 15:01.26 | HP-X|Arthas | do you have the "container" |
| 15:01.31 | HP-X|Arthas | can you pick it up |
| 15:01.34 | Shadowclaimer | no |
| 15:01.36 | Shadowclaimer | the item has no model |
| 15:01.36 | HP-X|Arthas | k |
| 15:01.38 | Shadowclaimer | which is issue #2 |
| 15:01.41 | HP-X|Arthas | aha |
| 15:01.48 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm, dont have my example map here |
| 15:01.54 | Shadowclaimer | I can't find where to associate an actor to it |
| 15:01.59 | HP-X|Arthas | i suggest, clone a unit |
| 15:02.07 | HP-X|Arthas | make it unmovable and set it to item instead |
| 15:02.12 | HP-X|Arthas | clone model & actor |
| 15:02.21 | HP-X|Arthas | that should make it show up on the map |
| 15:02.30 | Shadowclaimer | well the issue is under an item unit type I can't find the actor field |
| 15:02.34 | HP-X|Arthas | also, the item wont pick up unless the ITEM-field on the container points to an item |
| 15:03.14 | HP-X|Arthas | actor field? |
| 15:03.14 | Shadowclaimer | where I designate an actor to use? |
| 15:03.14 | HP-X|Arthas | well |
| 15:03.17 | HP-X|Arthas | actors (unless they changed this) go by the id rather than any field |
| 15:03.26 | HP-X|Arthas | so does more or less everything |
| 15:03.33 | Shadowclaimer | that's.. annoying as hell |
| 15:03.36 | HP-X|Arthas | yup |
| 15:03.43 | Shadowclaimer | who at Blizzard designed this editor.. |
| 15:03.52 | Shadowclaimer | I swear |
| 15:03.52 | HP-X|Arthas | it works great when you get the hang of it :p |
| 15:03.57 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm |
| 15:04.03 | Shadowclaimer | Yea but there's so amny things that have no valid reason but they did it anyway |
| 15:04.15 | Shadowclaimer | like this actor thing, do you know how much time it'd save me with a field that says "Actor" like all the rest of the data types do? |
| 15:04.17 | HP-X|Arthas | anyway, just do a duplication |
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| 15:05.02 | HP-X|Arthas | im sure youll have this solved by the time i get home in 7 days, but I have a map there with an item |
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| 15:05.13 | Shadowclaimer | I doubt it'll be done within 7 days |
| 15:05.22 | Shadowclaimer | I have a large scope for the item system on this project |
| 15:05.24 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 15:05.34 | HP-X|Arthas | going to see if i linked this map somewgere |
| 15:05.54 | HP-X|Arthas | ofc i didnt.... :\ |
| 15:06.11 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 15:06.19 | Alpha_vst | what happened |
| 15:06.23 | HP-X|Arthas | made a custom actor, model and unit |
| 15:06.28 | HP-X|Arthas | for item containers |
| 15:06.51 | HP-X|Arthas | only example map ive got a link to is the one made pre-editor and that one doesnt load in editor i think :D |
| 15:07.02 | exxor_ | so I'm having this problem where a unit doesn't attack the unit I specifiy but the closest unit instead. I think it has to do with the custom weapon... but I can't find anything in the weapon that would specify this behaviour... anyone? |
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| 15:08.30 | HP-X|Arthas | exxor, that just sounds weird |
| 15:10.42 | HP-X|Arthas | my first thought is that the weapon is based of a skill that uses a validator data but i still think that targetting a unit should go for that particular unit |
| 15:11.36 | Psiclone | is it possible for anyone to give me a hand? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3178-removing-buff/ |
| 15:11.39 | HP-X|Arthas | ~seen Xan |
| 15:11.41 | purl | xan <Xan@c-e955e255.541-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 19h 47m 24s ago, saying: 'especially for zerg'. |
| 15:11.41 | Shadowclaimer | Arthas how do I make the container show up properly? |
| 15:11.54 | HP-X|Arthas | shadow, hold checking around if i can find the map somewhere |
| 15:11.58 | Shadowclaimer | alright |
| 15:12.19 | HP-X|Arthas | most likely on my webserver htat is tightly locked down so i cant look at it :p |
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| 15:12.31 | rolelice | hey |
| 15:12.56 | HP-X|Arthas | anyway, shadow, id focus on the actor for the container |
| 15:13.10 | rolelice | can anyone help me? |
| 15:13.20 | HP-X|Arthas | rolelice: just ask and well see :D |
| 15:13.45 | rolelice | whats the default map folder on sc2? |
| 15:13.45 | HP-X|Arthas | shadow, my suggestion is: clone supply depot for example, then pick to also make a copy of actor & model |
| 15:14.02 | HP-X|Arthas | then change the model to whatever you want, the unit into item instead of unit type |
| 15:14.34 | exxor_ | HP-X|Arthas, ok, so I made a trigger on the unit aquiring another target, then I order it to attack a specified unit (I made sure it doesn't get in a loop). So when I attach a unmodified weapon to this, it works fine. But when I attach my custom weapon to it, it correctly identifies and orders to attack the specified target, but then the aquired target turns up to be the closest target... |
| 15:15.14 | HP-X|Arthas | rolelice, im not even sure on that :D |
| 15:15.29 | HP-X|Arthas | the maps dloaded from bnet are in localappdata or programdata |
| 15:15.31 | HP-X|Arthas | in bnet cache |
| 15:15.48 | HP-X|Arthas | so id say they are default |
| 15:16.04 | rolelice | umm... how do you accecs that ? because i dont see a cache in my sc2 folder |
| 15:16.14 | HP-X|Arthas | rolelice, what os are you on? |
| 15:16.18 | HP-X|Arthas | xp or vista/win7 |
| 15:16.21 | rolelice | 7 |
| 15:16.35 | HP-X|Arthas | go c:\programdata\blizzard entertainment\bnet cache |
| 15:16.38 | HP-X|Arthas | something like that |
| 15:16.44 | HP-X|Arthas | exxor |
| 15:16.57 | exxor_ | yes? |
| 15:17.01 | HP-X|Arthas | what happens if you increase thge range for the custom weapon |
| 15:17.03 | nicoli_s | go to %AppData% then go up one directory and go into local |
| 15:17.05 | HP-X|Arthas | say, to cover entire map |
| 15:17.18 | HP-X|Arthas | nicoli_s: thats not true for win7 |
| 15:17.20 | rolelice | i dont have program data on my c drive o.O |
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| 15:17.31 | HP-X|Arthas | rolelice: its hidden |
| 15:17.55 | HP-X|Arthas | also nic, %localappdata% works too |
| 15:18.04 | rolelice | how do you find it then? |
| 15:18.08 | HP-X|Arthas | well |
| 15:18.12 | HP-X|Arthas | i just enter it in the run field |
| 15:18.18 | HP-X|Arthas | or in the adres bar in explorer |
| 15:18.19 | exxor_ | arthas, I'll doublecheck |
| 15:18.40 | HP-X|Arthas | im not sure what tab defines the smart behaviors |
| 15:19.10 | rolelice | so what should i look up, localappdata? |
| 15:19.26 | HP-X|Arthas | rolelice: |
| 15:19.27 | HP-X|Arthas | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/411-misc-getting-official-maps/#p7 |
| 15:20.02 | HP-X|Arthas | I have miney in c:\programdata\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache\ |
| 15:20.08 | nicoli_s | HP-X|Arthas: yes it is im using win 7 and i can get there through that right now |
| 15:20.17 | HP-X|Arthas | pre-publishing patch I had em in localappdata |
| 15:20.21 | HP-X|Arthas | nic, 64-bit? |
| 15:20.33 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 15:20.36 | HP-X|Arthas | weird |
| 15:20.38 | HP-X|Arthas | really weird |
| 15:21.03 | HP-X|Arthas | well rolelice windows key + r to get run prompt |
| 15:21.07 | HP-X|Arthas | then try type |
| 15:21.13 | HP-X|Arthas | c:\programdata\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache\ |
| 15:21.18 | HP-X|Arthas | if that doesnt work |
| 15:21.26 | HP-X|Arthas | do run -> %localappdata%\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache |
| 15:21.46 | rolelice | i see it, thanks =) |
| 15:21.50 | HP-X|Arthas | np |
| 15:22.49 | HP-X|Arthas | Shadowclaimer: did you manage to get the container showing? |
| 15:22.59 | Shadowclaimer | No I got sidetracked making a clip system for my shots =( |
| 15:23.03 | HP-X|Arthas | ah :p |
| 15:23.10 | rolelice | umm so i got an error on my sc2 client, when i try to play a cartain UMS i get an error screen saying "Error! map not found" |
| 15:23.12 | Shadowclaimer | Sorting the stats each item will have |
| 15:23.29 | HP-X|Arthas | rolelice, delete the cache :p |
| 15:23.34 | AsaPhelps | that means they deleted it role |
| 15:23.43 | HP-X|Arthas | ah |
| 15:24.19 | rolelice | oh ok, cuz its still up there in popularity... can anyone check to see if its just not me please? |
| 15:24.35 | HP-X|Arthas | hyarion: happy bday in !advance :p |
| 15:25.16 | Alpha_vst | or the creator deleted the map |
| 15:25.21 | Alpha_vst | so you cant play it |
| 15:25.30 | HP-X|Arthas | also exxor |
| 15:25.54 | rolelice | ok, thx |
| 15:26.04 | HP-X|Arthas | fiorst thing id chec for on your custom weapon is wether or not it has a targetfind data field somewhere that it somehow makes use of |
| 15:26.13 | HP-X|Arthas | dropships use it iirc |
| 15:26.29 | exxor_ | Arthas, have to go, but it's being really weird. The trigger wouldn't work anymore, so I made a new trigger that would only display a UI message whenever a unit of a specific type would aquire a target which didn't work... sigh, anyway, better luck next time and thanks for the help :) |
| 15:26.46 | HP-X|Arthas | np, hope it works out for ya :) |
| 15:26.53 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas: tou are a bit late ;) |
| 15:26.58 | HP-X|Arthas | fuck you :p |
| 15:27.03 | HP-X|Arthas | im always right on time |
| 15:27.03 | hyarion | <3 |
| 15:27.06 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 15:27.06 | HP-X|Arthas | +/- 30 days |
| 15:27.26 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas aka gandalf |
| 15:27.28 | Alpha_vst | I HATE WHEN MY RANDOM MAPS MAKE IMPASSABLE WALLS |
| 15:27.29 | HP-X|Arthas | so hyarion |
| 15:27.30 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 15:27.41 | HP-X|Arthas | i have something i want us to look at when i get back to umea |
| 15:28.32 | hyarion | nothing with your balls this time... ok? |
| 15:28.52 | HP-X|Arthas | this time its actual work :p |
| 15:29.04 | HP-X|Arthas | want to look through different procedural generation algos |
| 15:29.11 | HP-X|Arthas | for maps |
| 15:30.03 | HP-X|Arthas | http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:8UtDJXp6CO0J:members.gamedev.net/potentialwell/ProceduralDungeonGeneration-JTippets.pdf+procedural+map+generation+site:gamedev.net&hl=sv&gl=se&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg9_nfonq_KUp3-YR04yi-vpXjJEJ0hJZhzuGjxG_1Zdcu6xjlLy0IB0omLwhfborBcRveZ6VlGiwfECXhjfUIenp8jQ0pobIrF393yCth5h2LmIGvZOdmAdC7dWjk9Pa2PKUKS&sig=AHIEtbS5I3-4tFLC9ZK4Bsu03srBeJFMZg |
| 15:30.04 | hyarion | nice :D |
| 15:30.21 | HP-X|Arthas | thats the paper i found on it so far that seems worth going through |
| 15:30.37 | Alpha_vst | wtf is that |
| 15:30.48 | HP-X|Arthas | alpha, algo for generating maps like in diablo |
| 15:30.58 | HP-X|Arthas | and like helral did |
| 15:31.17 | Alpha_vst | oh my generating is very basic :P |
| 15:31.20 | HP-X|Arthas | what im wondering is, is it possible to place random brush etc on the map |
| 15:31.25 | HP-X|Arthas | doodads |
| 15:31.26 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 15:31.30 | Alpha_vst | doodads yes sorta |
| 15:31.31 | hyarion | doesn't look to hard |
| 15:31.32 | HP-X|Arthas | just units? |
| 15:31.50 | HP-X|Arthas | hyarion: but then our skills are on different levels :p |
| 15:31.54 | HP-X|Arthas | also |
| 15:31.56 | hyarion | (the stuff in that paper) |
| 15:31.57 | Alpha_vst | if its a unit you can put it on the map |
| 15:32.04 | hyarion | xD |
| 15:32.08 | HP-X|Arthas | you think ppl in the space would jave the knowledge to reverse bnet2? ;p |
| 15:32.26 | hyarion | that sounds like a massive task |
| 15:32.30 | HP-X|Arthas | :) |
| 15:32.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Alpha_vst: yeah |
| 15:32.41 | HP-X|Arthas | but there is a unit limit too iirc :O |
| 15:32.46 | hyarion | en massiv task <--- as you say in swe |
| 15:32.52 | Alpha_vst | not really |
| 15:32.54 | HP-X|Arthas | kinky |
| 15:32.59 | Alpha_vst | i mean yeah |
| 15:33.00 | HP-X|Arthas | alpha, aight |
| 15:33.09 | Alpha_vst | but its a lot higher than you think it is |
| 15:33.29 | HP-X|Arthas | still, ive a room consists of 9-12 units it shouldnt be a problem i think |
| 15:33.39 | HP-X|Arthas | for walls that is |
| 15:34.04 | HP-X|Arthas | ~seen Ingela |
| 15:34.05 | purl | ingela <~Ingela@90-230-169-26-no35.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 11d 22h 28m 4s ago, saying: 'yes'. |
| 15:34.11 | HP-X|Arthas | ~seen Ingela^ |
| 15:34.12 | purl | ingela^ <~Ingela@90-230-169-26-no35.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 19h 54m 8s ago, saying: ':O'. |
| 15:34.29 | Alpha_vst | yeah your fine |
| 15:34.50 | Alpha_vst | i generate about 200 units for my walls |
| 15:34.59 | Alpha_vst | its not a lot but still :P |
| 15:35.08 | HP-X|Arthas | I mean, if banks are really limited in the way another map cant open it |
| 15:35.24 | HP-X|Arthas | one could have the map store and rebuild itself based on what level you are |
| 15:35.51 | Dustin | Beta Ends Today :( |
| 15:35.58 | Alpha_vst | yeah you could do that arthas |
| 15:36.00 | HP-X|Arthas | would be a way around the no-map-transition |
| 15:36.06 | Alpha_vst | actually a smart idea like |
| 15:36.07 | HP-X|Arthas | and a smooth one |
| 15:36.13 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah |
| 15:36.13 | AsaPhelps | Start making some porn maps to upload before the beta ends, rick roll style |
| 15:36.24 | Alpha_vst | GAH |
| 15:36.29 | Alpha_vst | WHY IS MY TIMER RESETING |
| 15:36.43 | Beider | you could rebuild it easily by using a fixed random seed |
| 15:37.05 | HP-X|Arthas | Beider: not a bad idea |
| 15:37.08 | HP-X|Arthas | hmmm |
| 15:37.15 | HP-X|Arthas | that could give us awesome maps :D |
| 15:37.19 | Alpha_vst | what kinda random game you making |
| 15:37.20 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas: that dynamic map-thingy you just mentioned could be quite awesome :) |
| 15:37.24 | HP-X|Arthas | and orpg would be nice |
| 15:37.27 | Psiclone | anyone know how to modify blink so that it casts towards the mouse cursor when you click the ability instead of having to choose the location? |
| 15:37.29 | HP-X|Arthas | hyarion: yeah |
| 15:37.44 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas: when are you back? |
| 15:37.51 | HP-X|Arthas | sunday |
| 15:37.54 | hyarion | mmkay |
| 15:37.57 | HP-X|Arthas | work 12-20:45 monday |
| 15:38.03 | hyarion | i work during the days though |
| 15:38.05 | Alpha_vst | I HATE THESE TIMERS |
| 15:38.07 | Alpha_vst | FUCK |
| 15:38.10 | HP-X|Arthas | where? |
| 15:38.13 | HP-X|Arthas | w iphone games? |
| 15:38.13 | hyarion | codemill |
| 15:38.19 | HP-X|Arthas | still porting games? |
| 15:38.24 | HP-X|Arthas | or some other crap like that :p |
| 15:38.31 | HP-X|Arthas | I hate ports since 99% suck |
| 15:38.35 | Beider | Psiclone: that might be impossible as you can't get the position of the mouse unless the user clicks |
| 15:38.36 | HP-X|Arthas | and therefor you, unless you bring beer! |
| 15:38.43 | hyarion | well, havn't ported any game to iphone yet, have made new once though :) |
| 15:38.45 | HP-X|Arthas | after rapala leaves why not just live in my appartment? |
| 15:38.53 | HP-X|Arthas | lets get that cluster up and running :D |
| 15:38.58 | hyarion | höhö |
| 15:38.59 | Psiclone | well that's dumb. ty anyway |
| 15:39.35 | HP-X|Arthas | who knows, we might even make the wii jerkoff party game? =p |
| 15:39.50 | HP-X|Arthas | Runkbulle - The game |
| 15:41.08 | Alpha_vst | if i can work this bug out i can test my game in multi player before the servers go down |
| 15:41.09 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 15:41.34 | Alpha_vst | but tis fucking resetting when it should |
| 15:41.38 | Alpha_vst | i jsut dont get it |
| 15:41.38 | Beider | ack, my brain can't focus today |
| 15:41.51 | Beider | know exactly what I need to do for my map but keep getting distracted |
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| 15:43.00 | AsaPhelps | *throws a brightly colored ball towards Beider* |
| 15:43.05 | Alpha_vst | well thats great for you |
| 15:43.17 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas: don't get any strange ideas now ;) |
| 15:43.22 | hyarion | oh |
| 15:43.32 | hyarion | didn't read "make" |
| 15:43.35 | Alpha_vst | imy timer is reseting even though the condtion is returning true |
| 15:43.37 | hyarion | xD |
| 15:43.37 | Alpha_vst | WTF |
| 15:44.54 | Alpha_vst | its even printing out my info so its passing correctly |
| 15:45.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Clord (~Clord@62-165-184-40.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 15:45.29 | Alpha_vst | I THINK I FIGURE IT OUT GRUMBLE |
| 15:45.38 | HP-X|Arthas | ah well |
| 15:45.43 | HP-X|Arthas | time for me to leave |
| 15:45.50 | HP-X|Arthas | later ppl :) |
| 15:45.52 | Alpha_vst | got he fuck away |
| 15:46.01 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 15:46.03 | hyarion | bye |
| 15:46.03 | Alpha_vst | have fun |
| 15:46.16 | Clord | helper arrow is so helpful |
| 15:46.54 | Alpha_vst | FUCKING AWESOME |
| 15:46.58 | Alpha_vst | IT WORKS |
| 15:47.05 | Alpha_vst | I need 2 timers lol |
| 15:47.21 | Alpha_vst | i use 1 timer for 2 things of the same thing |
| 15:47.27 | Alpha_vst | and it was conflicting |
| 15:48.12 | Alpha_vst | now i have a new issue |
| 15:48.13 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 15:49.12 | alp82 | re |
| 15:49.32 | Alpha_vst | maybe i was using the wrong timer condtion |
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| 15:49.53 | alp82 | Clord: what is helper arrow good for? |
| 15:50.06 | AsaPhelps | pointing |
| 15:50.12 | alp82 | i once tried to use that as an attachment actor to a unit, but i saw nothing |
| 15:50.22 | AsaPhelps | mine attached fine |
| 15:50.41 | Alpha_vst | IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:50.45 | Alpha_vst | ITS ALIVE |
| 15:51.25 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 15:51.29 | Twiner | kills it |
| 15:51.42 | alp82 | what does work? |
| 15:51.45 | alp82 | a timer? ^^ |
| 15:51.57 | Alpha_vst | my timer restting |
| 15:51.59 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 15:52.22 | Alpha_vst | it worked all along but i had conflicting issues |
| 15:53.05 | Alpha_vst | i need to use a diffrent timer for zombies and players |
| 15:53.06 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 15:53.58 | Alpha_vst | or use a [2][100] array |
| 15:54.03 | Alpha_vst | but thats lame |
| 15:56.44 | alp82 | indeed |
| 15:56.48 | alp82 | why 100? |
| 15:56.50 | alp82 | units? |
| 15:57.35 | Alpha_vst | 100 max points |
| 15:57.41 | Alpha_vst | so 100 timers for each |
| 15:57.49 | Alpha_vst | well 1 timer for each |
| 15:57.51 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 15:58.05 | alp82 | points to control? |
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| 15:58.32 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 15:59.00 | alp82 | is it possible to play the zombies? |
| 15:59.19 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 15:59.38 | Alpha_vst | it would be sorta lame :P |
| 16:00.27 | alp82 | that would be a cool concept too, or maybe starship troopers from the opposite direction where the players try to invade the terran base with zerg masses |
| 16:00.44 | alp82 | or teams bugs vs marines |
| 16:00.54 | alp82 | difficult to balance though |
| 16:00.56 | Alpha_vst | yeah go for it |
| 16:01.05 | alp82 | dunno, is that cool? |
| 16:01.06 | Alpha_vst | have you seen my movies of my map? |
| 16:01.12 | alp82 | nope |
| 16:01.18 | alp82 | dont know anything about it |
| 16:01.36 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 16:01.46 | Alpha_vst | EVERYONE HAS TO KNOW |
| 16:01.54 | alp82 | well then show me your masterpiece |
| 16:02.13 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HZOpr1GnJk there is my generator in action |
| 16:02.25 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArkNgnhQhkQ and my point generator |
| 16:03.25 | alp82 | did you make the music yourself? |
| 16:03.33 | Alpha_vst | http://i47.tinypic.com/1zwke10.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/smc7mf.jpg ttp://i50.tinypic.com/mc8z1s.jpg |
| 16:03.34 | Shadowclaimer | Alright so, anyone know the Clip vs Magazine debate stuff and care to assist me in it? |
| 16:03.43 | Alpha_vst | http://i50.tinypic.com/mc8z1s.jpg |
| 16:03.48 | Alpha_vst | there are a few SS |
| 16:04.19 | Alpha_vst | no i didnt make the music |
| 16:04.35 | Alpha_vst | but its awesome ambient noise |
| 16:04.44 | alp82 | whats the point of all the map and point generation? i dont get the gameplay concept |
| 16:04.56 | nicoli_s | i love that style |
| 16:05.03 | nicoli_s | looks like they are little paper figures our something |
| 16:05.17 | Alpha_vst | its a control defend and capture type game |
| 16:05.27 | Alpha_vst | the name of the map is paper zombies 0.o |
| 16:05.30 | Alpha_vst | so thanks |
| 16:05.40 | alp82 | the style is indeed great |
| 16:05.43 | alp82 | love it |
| 16:06.12 | Alpha_vst | i need to set up player control |
| 16:06.14 | alp82 | how did you do that? modeling or just tweaking the settings? |
| 16:06.31 | Alpha_vst | its lighting but mostly custom textures |
| 16:07.58 | Shadowclaimer | Alpha I love it |
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| 16:11.09 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 16:11.33 | Alpha_vst | i still need to fix some textures |
| 16:11.49 | Alpha_vst | and make some missing ones :P |
| 16:13.30 | Alpha_vst | compressed my map is 15mb WOOT |
| 16:13.32 | Alpha_vst | FUCK ME |
| 16:13.37 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 16:14.01 | Alpha_vst | way to limit any real customization blizzard |
| 16:14.08 | Alpha_vst | FUCK YOU BLIZZARD |
| 16:14.14 | wOlfLinG | mod |
| 16:14.21 | wOlfLinG | put some stuff in a mod |
| 16:14.32 | wOlfLinG | and make the map need that mod |
| 16:14.39 | Alpha_vst | yeah but i dont want to make 4 mods for this map |
| 16:15.02 | alp82 | my simple chess map has 600kb already too |
| 16:15.04 | Alpha_vst | where it might end up going |
| 16:15.07 | alp82 | way to much in my opinion |
| 16:15.23 | wOlfLinG | needs better compression |
| 16:15.26 | Alpha_vst | 600k un compressed? |
| 16:15.33 | alp82 | erm dont know |
| 16:15.36 | Alpha_vst | are you saving fast? |
| 16:15.39 | alp82 | i guess uncompressed |
| 16:15.39 | Alpha_vst | you probably are |
| 16:15.45 | alp82 | yes |
| 16:15.53 | alp82 | is there any other saving possibility? |
| 16:16.14 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 16:16.19 | Alpha_vst | smaller files |
| 16:16.21 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 16:17.17 | wOlfLinG | Generally i save fast until i upload it |
| 16:17.28 | wOlfLinG | Then i do a small save and upload that one |
| 16:18.03 | alp82 | good to know |
| 16:18.32 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 16:18.34 | Alpha_vst | same |
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| 16:18.43 | Alpha_vst | its the smart thing to do |
| 16:21.32 | Alpha_vst | woot fuck me |
| 16:22.05 | alp82 | no thanks |
| 16:22.30 | Alpha_vst | you know you want it |
| 16:22.38 | alp82 | i know i dont |
| 16:23.05 | Alpha_vst | im having player control issues :( |
| 16:26.08 | Zaratulius | is there a way to get current damage of unit by trigger? |
| 16:26.41 | Alpha_vst | um you can get the current life |
| 16:26.51 | Alpha_vst | unit property |
| 16:27.36 | Zaratulius | but i want to get unit damage just like the one showed when u hover mouse over attack of unit |
| 16:28.28 | Alpha_vst | idono |
| 16:29.46 | Zaratulius | it shouldn't be to hard but i can't find a way to read unit's damage.... |
| 16:33.50 | Alpha_vst | i know its possible ive seen it done |
| 16:35.50 | Zaratulius | where have u seen it? |
| 16:40.22 | Alpha_vst | in a td map |
| 16:40.27 | Alpha_vst | spiral td or osmething |
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| 16:42.42 | Kamakaze | you have to use get catalog field value or something like that to get random other data from units |
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| 16:43.18 | Bifuu | good ole web chat |
| 16:43.30 | Bifuu | til i find a good client other than mirc |
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| 16:45.11 | Zaratulius | hmm i don't know how to use catalog field values ;p |
| 16:46.56 | Bifuu | heh |
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| 16:47.15 | Bifuu | i llooked at the specs at this laptop to see if i can maybe use the editor on it |
| 16:47.23 | Alpha_vst | its all about chatzilla |
| 16:47.36 | Bifuu | 512 megs of RAM ftw! |
| 16:47.41 | Alpha_vst | thats all? |
| 16:47.43 | Alpha_vst | WEAK |
| 16:47.46 | Bifuu | i dont use firefox |
| 16:47.55 | Bifuu | it was free |
| 16:47.59 | Bifuu | sooooooooo |
| 16:48.03 | Alpha_vst | FREE? |
| 16:48.05 | Alpha_vst | AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:48.38 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 16:48.43 | Bifuu | friend bought a new one |
| 16:48.47 | Bifuu | and gave me this one |
| 16:48.53 | Bifuu | til i bought my real one |
| 16:49.05 | Alpha_vst | AWESOME |
| 16:49.20 | Bifuu | so ill be around alot more now hehe |
| 16:49.46 | Hati | Bifuu: KVIrc |
| 16:50.18 | Bifuu | i was actually thinking about that one Hati |
| 16:50.19 | Zaratulius | can i find somewhere a listing of catalof fields? |
| 16:50.31 | Zaratulius | *catalog |
| 16:50.38 | Hati | uhm |
| 16:50.42 | Hati | in the wiki was one iirc |
| 16:50.51 | Hati | or you simply go into Data Editor |
| 16:50.57 | Hati | RawMode (ctrl+d) |
| 16:51.07 | Hati | and then you have strings like CUnit_LifeStart |
| 16:51.13 | Hati | and LifeStart = Field |
| 16:51.34 | Alpha_vst | HMMM |
| 16:51.36 | Alpha_vst | FUCK ME |
| 16:51.42 | Alpha_vst | HOW DO YOU CHANGE THE NAME OF A MOD? |
| 16:51.53 | Bifuu | same as map |
| 16:51.53 | Alpha_vst | it wont let me put it on bnet |
| 16:51.53 | Hati | make a map |
| 16:52.02 | Bifuu | mod -> mod properties |
| 16:52.02 | Hati | and swap if youre done to Mod |
| 16:52.05 | Bifuu | or something |
| 16:52.08 | Zaratulius | i think i won't find there a damage value that is displayed in game UI |
| 16:52.11 | Hati | Bifuu there's nothing like this |
| 16:52.12 | Alpha_vst | there is no options |
| 16:52.14 | Alpha_vst | for it |
| 16:52.19 | Hati | you would have to do Text editing |
| 16:52.22 | Bifuu | thats how i did it O.o |
| 16:52.23 | Hati | which will bug your mod |
| 16:52.28 | Hati | you have to do your mod as map |
| 16:52.42 | Hati | and releases just as simple rename |
| 16:52.54 | Hati | with scrapped Terrain files |
| 16:53.16 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 16:53.33 | Hati | yea |
| 16:53.49 | Alpha_vst | yea doesnt help me under stand what the fuck you just said |
| 16:53.58 | Hati | yea |
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| 16:54.14 | Hati | Zaratulius: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/catalog-field-value-get/ |
| 16:54.18 | Hati | Alpha_vst: You create Map |
| 16:54.26 | Hati | Do things like you would in mod |
| 16:54.36 | Alpha_vst | i got it |
| 16:54.44 | Alpha_vst | your way is ass backwards |
| 16:54.44 | Hati | for every release you make a "copy" |
| 16:54.54 | Hati | and rename it to SC2Mod |
| 16:54.56 | Alpha_vst | i went into data |
| 16:55.00 | Alpha_vst | and changed it |
| 16:55.03 | Alpha_vst | simple |
| 16:55.24 | Hati | scrap all terrain related files (as mods don't have those) |
| 16:55.26 | Hati | and youre done |
| 16:55.50 | Zaratulius | Hati thx |
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| 16:57.40 | Bifuu|2 | this seems like an interesting client |
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| 17:01.26 | Azu | qweqwewqe |
| 17:01.33 | nicoli_s | exactly |
| 17:01.46 | Azu | im bored |
| 17:01.53 | Azu | watching d2 bot :< |
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| 17:05.39 | Azu | throws lego at nicoli_s |
| 17:07.36 | Zaratulius | hmm i found a damage flash duration in data editor>game UI data but where i can find damage displayed value? |
| 17:08.03 | Hati | hmm you mean like weapons say Damage: 6? |
| 17:08.07 | Hati | "Damage: 6"* |
| 17:08.24 | Dustin | Isnt that pulled from the Effect damage field |
| 17:08.27 | Hati | yea |
| 17:08.34 | Dustin | thought so |
| 17:08.38 | Hati | it's DisplayEffect in Weapon |
| 17:08.59 | Hati | so you could do a dummy effect for every weapon or actually use the correct one |
| 17:09.05 | Hati | Carrier ie uses dummy one |
| 17:09.52 | Zaratulius | hmm |
| 17:10.10 | Zaratulius | i just want to load this dmg to trigger and display it there |
| 17:10.29 | Dustin | You can refrence effects damage |
| 17:10.38 | Hati | CatalogGetFieldValue -> DisplayEffect-Amount |
| 17:10.53 | Dustin | ^ |
| 17:11.21 | Zaratulius | heh it won't work becouse it just display base damage of effect |
| 17:11.36 | Zaratulius | and when i get some bonuses from let's say behavior it won't be there |
| 17:11.36 | Dustin | You're trying to get Damage plus bonuses? |
| 17:11.37 | Hati | no theres a option/flag |
| 17:11.41 | Hati | to combine damage values |
| 17:11.46 | Hati | so they display as 20 |
| 17:11.49 | Hati | and not 10+10 |
| 17:12.30 | Zaratulius | and when i add random value to effect dmg is mindmg - maxdmg |
| 17:12.53 | Hati | well that wont work |
| 17:13.01 | Hati | you've also have to get random value then |
| 17:13.05 | Hati | and combine the both gets |
| 17:13.05 | alp82 | just saw the api docs page on sc2mapster. is there a way to directly write galaxy code instead of using the gui? |
| 17:13.31 | nicoli_s | alp82:soon |
| 17:13.32 | Zaratulius | well u have a point ;p |
| 17:13.38 | Zaratulius | i will try it thx |
| 17:13.45 | alp82 | nicoli_s: cool |
| 17:13.55 | nicoli_s | alp82:we are working on a 3rd party editor that will allow you too, and other people are working on tools to add that into GE |
| 17:13.57 | Zaratulius | btw where is flag to display combined damage value? |
| 17:14.28 | Hati | should be something like Extend Bonus |
| 17:14.32 | alp82 | i see |
| 17:14.43 | Hati | in the EffectDamage themselves |
| 17:15.04 | alp82 | maybe you could integrate support for oop and arrays as parameters as well :D |
| 17:15.21 | Zaratulius | ok thx a lot |
| 17:15.32 | Hati | i don't think you can define pointers external |
| 17:15.38 | Hati | that's a thing blizz has to enable |
| 17:16.06 | alp82 | but maybe you could simulate them by using global variables |
| 17:16.23 | alp82 | which would be very memory-wasting i guess |
| 17:16.30 | Hati | yea but that could be done by preprocessor |
| 17:16.41 | Hati | not by an directly input to mapscript.galaxy :x |
| 17:17.01 | alp82 | yes |
| 17:17.11 | alp82 | that would do the trick :) |
| 17:17.20 | alp82 | please do that now :P |
| 17:17.23 | Hati | and there's already one in work |
| 17:17.49 | Hati | dunno if there's already a beta/alpha/gamma version of it - didn't follow it that much |
| 17:17.54 | alp82 | fascinating. the game isnt released yet and everybody is going crazy |
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| 17:18.30 | Alpha_vst | going crazy over? |
| 17:19.36 | Alpha_vst | haha i had to jsut restart my editor to make the text cxahnges work |
| 17:19.38 | Alpha_vst | sighj |
| 17:20.02 | Alpha_vst | now i have a almost 10mb texture mod |
| 17:20.04 | Alpha_vst | woot |
| 17:20.13 | Alpha_vst | means i will need another mod |
| 17:20.17 | Alpha_vst | to make it work |
| 17:20.28 | Alpha_vst | if i want more textures |
| 17:20.30 | Alpha_vst | FUCK THIS GAME |
| 17:20.45 | Alpha_vst | and its shitty reqirements |
| 17:20.50 | Bifuu | lololollololololollololol |
| 17:21.08 | Bifuu | just another reason im waiting for release |
| 17:21.12 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 17:21.14 | Hati | Alpha did you checked to use best compression for files ? |
| 17:21.18 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 17:22.02 | Alpha_vst | WOW BLIZZARD FAILED |
| 17:22.11 | Coldfusionstorm | no |
| 17:22.15 | Alpha_vst | the compression turned my textures a diffrent color |
| 17:22.18 | Alpha_vst | SO YES THEY DID |
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| 17:24.59 | Shadowclaimer | Ha by attempting to make an item system I've come up with a badass injury system by accident |
| 17:25.05 | Alpha_vst | and all my custom untis are gone |
| 17:25.07 | Alpha_vst | WOOT |
| 17:25.09 | Alpha_vst | FUCK |
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| 17:32.54 | Demonette | hi guys |
| 17:33.15 | Zaratulius | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.15 | Zaratulius | is this a good way of read catalog value? |
| 17:33.39 | Alpha_vst | woot i cant upload my map |
| 17:34.25 | casperb | beta has ended :P |
| 17:34.47 | rrowland | Beta's not over, I don't know why people keep saying that |
| 17:34.53 | rrowland | There are still 2 or so weeks left |
| 17:34.56 | rrowland | They're just not right now |
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| 17:35.07 | Alpha_vst | it goes down today |
| 17:35.10 | Alpha_vst | but its still up |
| 17:35.40 | Alpha_vst | how would i get my mod cache from bnet? |
| 17:35.45 | rrowland | Wish LAN was available |
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| 17:35.52 | rrowland | So I could still practice with friends |
| 17:37.39 | Alpha_vst | got it lol |
| 17:38.25 | Coldfusionstorm | Just blame activison for that one |
| 17:38.31 | Alpha_vst | ok so |
| 17:38.34 | Alpha_vst | this is a issue |
| 17:39.15 | Alpha_vst | the game isnt using the textures in my mod :( |
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| 17:39.54 | Alpha_vst | so fuck me :( |
| 17:40.17 | Alpha_vst | anyone know how i can fix that? |
| 17:40.31 | casperb | overriding textures? |
| 17:40.32 | Coldfusionstorm | no no, you got it all wrong.the attitude Activion uses is(well, our shit is broken, oh well, fuck you) |
| 17:40.59 | Alpha_vst | yeah my map is over the 10.5 mb limit so i had to put it in a mod |
| 17:41.12 | Alpha_vst | and the textures are now nto being overridden |
| 17:41.33 | Coldfusionstorm | :( |
| 17:43.38 | alp82 | Alpha_vst: sounds like a real bug which probably will be fixed sooner or later |
| 17:46.46 | Alpha_vst | cant even upload my map |
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| 17:47.29 | Alpha_vst | ops hit close by mistake :D |
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| 17:49.54 | Zaratulius | hmm i use this to get catalog value: String = (Value of Effects "BioSwordrank1" "Amount" for player Any Player) <String> And i get value correctly but i get game error about i can't get str from parametr in 'stringtofixed' |
| 17:50.07 | Gatling | moin |
| 17:54.13 | Psiclone | is there anyone available to help at all? |
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| 17:58.18 | Alpha_vst | 4 |
| 17:58.19 | Alpha_vst | with |
| 17:58.21 | Alpha_vst | what |
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| 17:58.56 | Tabaa | is it possible to change model on the mineral field, I have tried but cant find it, or it doesnt work. |
| 17:59.34 | Cyther | bnet shutting down in 3-5 minutes. |
| 17:59.40 | vjeux | new patch? |
| 17:59.48 | Cyther | nope, beta ends |
| 17:59.50 | nicoli_s | prob shutting down for good |
| 17:59.51 | vjeux | oh shit |
| 17:59.52 | Cyther | 1st part |
| 18:00.02 | vjeux | happened so fast |
| 18:00.22 | Alpha_vst | woot no test for my map |
| 18:00.24 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 18:00.44 | Alpha_vst | because blizzard fails at mods |
| 18:01.32 | rrowland | 30 seconds :( |
| 18:01.35 | rrowland | I'm looking for a match |
| 18:01.40 | rrowland | Maybe it'll bug me out and let me play forever and ever |
| 18:02.10 | rrowland | It's been down for 10 seconds and I'm already bored |
| 18:02.20 | Cyther | lol |
| 18:02.26 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:02.56 | Alpha_vst | so now that i completely fucked my etxures |
| 18:03.08 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/battle-net-going-down/ |
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| 18:03.38 | rrowland | "going" huh |
| 18:03.42 | rrowland | Seems like it's already gone |
| 18:03.59 | wOlfLinG | Btw, im going to be making a mod during the downtime and including a new race |
| 18:04.04 | wOlfLinG | Any ideas for it? |
| 18:04.15 | vjeux | pokemons |
| 18:04.17 | Skizot | batman |
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| 18:04.21 | Zaratulius | anyone knoe why i get StringToFixed error when i try to read catalog value? |
| 18:04.31 | Psiclone | sorry, phone rang. so i just need to figure out how to do this seemingly difficult ability |
| 18:04.38 | nicoli_s | Skizot: how goes yer map? |
| 18:04.40 | wOlfLinG | Im thinking of adding the lurker :D |
| 18:04.56 | Alpha_vst | why it will be in release |
| 18:05.00 | Bifuu | lurker is in campaign |
| 18:05.15 | nicoli_s | Bifuu: you wanted access to MWE source right? |
| 18:05.23 | Alpha_vst | SO |
| 18:05.34 | Alpha_vst | i guess i will make a video ina bit for you people |
| 18:05.39 | wOlfLinG | SO people will want to pwn baneolings with them xD |
| 18:06.22 | wOlfLinG | New map: Baneling Bust. Mass banelings xD |
| 18:06.30 | Alpha_vst | they have that map |
| 18:06.32 | Bifuu | if you guys need my help sure |
| 18:06.38 | wOlfLinG | Winner is the last to lose thier banelings |
| 18:06.40 | Psiclone | i can't seem to figure out how to do what i said here: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3178-removing-buff/ <--- just the part about the psionic storm stun, everything else is fine |
| 18:09.53 | Alpha_vst | idsono |
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| 18:10.32 | AsaPhelps | can you explain that again psi |
| 18:10.47 | Psiclone | it's just supposed to stun 5 times every 1 second for .5 seconds |
| 18:11.06 | Psiclone | but only thing i can figure out is how to make it stun the whole time |
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| 18:11.16 | Alpha_vst | OH I SEE |
| 18:12.37 | Zergkite[Bambi] | Any1 that wants to help with some triggers :P |
| 18:12.58 | Zergkite[Bambi] | or more likely explain them |
| 18:14.47 | AsaPhelps | I don't get it |
| 18:15.16 | alp82 | whats the purpose of data tables? |
| 18:16.00 | Psiclone | my psionic storm i want to stun for .5 seconds each time it deals damage, and not stun the entire duration of the ability |
| 18:16.35 | Alpha_vst | to hold data? |
| 18:16.36 | AsaPhelps | so 5 stuns, each for .5s? |
| 18:16.47 | Psiclone | yeah |
| 18:16.53 | alp82 | Alpha_vst: yeah sure, but why using them if u can use structures? |
| 18:16.53 | AsaPhelps | so .5s stun, .5s move, etc? |
| 18:17.01 | Psiclone | yep yep |
| 18:17.39 | AsaPhelps | could try to add a dummy effect that does nothing and make it a set |
| 18:17.45 | AsaPhelps | with a .5s delay on the dummy |
| 18:17.58 | AsaPhelps | or probably an easier way |
| 18:18.09 | Psiclone | well i can't seem to figure out how to attach the dummy effect, because you can only have 1 effect in each section |
| 18:18.18 | Psiclone | so i don't get how to attach 2 effects to one behavior |
| 18:18.35 | Zergkite[Bambi] | how do i lock the movmentspeed of a unit to a indicated valuè? |
| 18:21.57 | AsaPhelps | what are you using for the stun? |
| 18:22.07 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 18:22.22 | Psiclone | apply buff? |
| 18:22.34 | Psiclone | apply behavior, i mean |
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| 18:23.01 | AsaPhelps | did you make your own stun? |
| 18:23.26 | Psiclone | yeah, i made my own everything |
| 18:23.36 | Psiclone | i just copied how psi storm was made |
| 18:24.16 | Tabaa | GAH I want to harvest from a sun!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:24.22 | Tabaa | how to do tha!?!? |
| 18:24.26 | Alpha_vst | MAKE SUN |
| 18:24.28 | Tabaa | or harvest from a marine |
| 18:24.30 | Tabaa | or osmething! |
| 18:24.44 | Alpha_vst | Harvest a marine sounds awesome |
| 18:24.50 | Alpha_vst | harvest its body parts |
| 18:24.52 | Alpha_vst | RAWR |
| 18:24.55 | Tabaa | I have searched forums google and stuff for 3 hours now :S |
| 18:25.13 | Tabaa | I tried to change model on minerals but it doesnt want to work |
| 18:25.15 | Tabaa | bug? |
| 18:25.20 | Zergkite[Bambi] | @psiclone "UnitBehaviorAdd(unit),"movespeed",(CastingUnit), *How many times?(1)* |
| 18:25.21 | Alpha_vst | did it wrong |
| 18:25.23 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 18:25.26 | Tabaa | yeh |
| 18:25.29 | Tabaa | prob |
| 18:25.37 | Alpha_vst | you probably need to restart the map |
| 18:25.42 | Alpha_vst | so it will load |
| 18:25.45 | Alpha_vst | the new settings |
| 18:25.45 | Tabaa | hmm |
| 18:26.09 | Psiclone | @Zergkite is that in a trigger? |
| 18:26.22 | Zergkite[Bambi] | Give the mineralsabbilitys to sun? (harvest able) |
| 18:26.45 | Tabaa | I have tried that too |
| 18:26.48 | AsaPhelps | okay psi I think i did it |
| 18:27.22 | Psiclone | orly |
| 18:27.27 | Zergkite[Bambi] | @psiclone, Y ist supposed to be triggered when you press a keybuttom (i have added other actions so i do know that the event is correct) |
| 18:27.45 | Zergkite[Bambi] | Tabaa |
| 18:28.03 | Zergkite[Bambi] | Is you Tabaa thats also Tabaa ingame? |
| 18:28.04 | AsaPhelps | actually I don't know |
| 18:28.24 | Alpha_vst | names are not unique |
| 18:28.26 | Alpha_vst | so :P |
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| 18:43.08 | Furyhunter | Careful about that patch, guys |
| 18:43.15 | Furyhunter | The one that appears to have just gone up |
| 18:43.19 | nicoli_s | patch? |
| 18:43.31 | nicoli_s | they put out a new patch? |
| 18:43.38 | Furyhunter | I think. That's what's being said on the forums. |
| 18:43.42 | nicoli_s | link? |
| 18:43.50 | Zergkite[Bambi] | how do you lock movementspeed to a unit so it always will move forward? |
| 18:43.52 | Furyhunter | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171673042&sid=5000 |
| 18:43.58 | Furyhunter | Yes, in fact, there is a new patch. Just tested. |
| 18:44.42 | rrowland | I'm not DLing that until I know its purpose isn't to ruin my day |
| 18:45.20 | AsaPhelps | any luck psi? |
| 18:45.35 | Psiclone | no, i'm adding veterancy right now, i'm getting pissed at this :P |
| 18:45.46 | Furyhunter | It's most likely to clean up the beta folder. |
| 18:45.53 | Furyhunter | Getting rid of the old versions, etc |
| 18:46.10 | AsaPhelps | With the release of Patch 15, we are adjusting the way in which placement and promotions work within the Leagues and Ladders system. As were wiping the database so everyone can test this change, were specifically looking for feedback on your experience in getting placed in a league after completing your placement rounds. |
| 18:46.23 | Furyhunter | Which sucks for replays, but should fix the 10GB problem :P |
| 18:46.27 | Furyhunter | There's no new patch notes. |
| 18:46.34 | AsaPhelps | Is this patch 15? |
| 18:46.42 | AsaPhelps | Or 16 |
| 18:47.47 | AsaPhelps | So what should we do for the next 6 weeks |
| 18:47.48 | rrowland | 16 |
| 18:48.02 | Zergkite[Bambi] | how do you increase/decrease curret movementspeed to a unit so it (always) will move forward? |
| 18:48.27 | AsaPhelps | What are you using to move it |
| 18:49.17 | Zergkite[Bambi] | automove? |
| 18:49.46 | Dustin | Just order it to move twoards Point with Poalr offset (unit Facing) |
| 18:49.46 | AsaPhelps | so you target a spot and have move? |
| 18:49.50 | Dustin | so itll always go forward |
| 18:50.13 | Zergkite[Bambi] | like the reaperzergling race? |
| 18:50.23 | AsaPhelps | I need a good movie to watch while map making, I just saw total recall which was sci-fi ish |
| 18:50.25 | Dustin | Like my missle system in TDF :P |
| 18:50.37 | Dustin | AsaPhelps, wathc 5th element |
| 18:50.45 | AsaPhelps | Hmm seen it but its a good movie |
| 18:50.55 | Zergkite[Bambi] | the mist? |
| 18:50.56 | Dustin | New Alice in Wonderland was sweet |
| 18:50.57 | AsaPhelps | that reminds me I need to see splice |
| 18:51.05 | AsaPhelps | the mist? never heard of it |
| 18:51.05 | Dustin | Splice looks cool |
| 18:51.33 | AsaPhelps | the mist sounds silly |
| 18:51.40 | AsaPhelps | a fog that makes people go crazy or something? |
| 18:51.45 | Zergkite[Bambi] | the mist, aliens invades humans and they shall defend themselves |
| 18:51.54 | nicoli_s | splice will just be a rip off of species |
| 18:52.25 | AsaPhelps | splice only made 7 mil opening weekend |
| 18:52.27 | Zergkite[Bambi] | Dustin, you've played or know zergling reaper race? |
| 18:52.45 | Furyhunter | gg blizzard |
| 18:52.51 | Furyhunter | servers are back up |
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| 18:53.16 | AsaPhelps | Quick upload your porn maps |
| 18:53.17 | Dustin | Havent seen it |
| 18:53.34 | Dustin | Wait...new patch? |
| 18:53.38 | Dustin | I thought beta ends today |
| 18:54.44 | nicoli_s | i just played a match just fine |
| 18:56.23 | AsaPhelps | probably a patch to disable beta tonight |
| 18:56.53 | Alpha_vst | patch again? |
| 18:56.55 | Alpha_vst | odd |
| 18:57.06 | Alpha_vst | why patch on the last day |
| 18:57.32 | Alpha_vst | im not downloading it |
| 18:57.34 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
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| 19:00.05 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 19:00.10 | Alpha_vst | replays are disabled |
| 19:00.12 | Alpha_vst | WTF |
| 19:00.23 | Alpha_vst | and server is still up... |
| 19:01.36 | Atlos | errg |
| 19:02.00 | Atlos | how could I make it so that I change ownership of all marines from player 1 to player 0 |
| 19:02.18 | Atlos | I can find the action change ownership but can't get it like that |
| 19:02.45 | Dustin | Unit Group, add Unit Group ( All Marines owned by Player 1) |
| 19:02.55 | Dustin | then Loop Through the unit group and change ownership to picked unit |
| 19:03.05 | Atlos | ok |
| 19:04.01 | Alpha_vst | what he said |
| 19:04.23 | Alpha_vst | So apently making a mod with custom textures you need to actually have the units with those textures in that mod |
| 19:04.28 | Alpha_vst | i think |
| 19:04.33 | Alpha_vst | which is pretty stupid |
| 19:04.43 | Alpha_vst | so you need to make a custom unit |
| 19:05.38 | Alpha_vst | ACtually wait... |
| 19:06.09 | Alpha_vst | somehow i got it to work 0.o |
| 19:06.37 | Alpha_vst | woot lol |
| 19:06.54 | Alpha_vst | i think i knwo what the issue was |
| 19:07.02 | Alpha_vst | it wasnt loading anything from the mod |
| 19:07.22 | Alpha_vst | i added a custim texture to the mod |
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| 19:07.28 | Alpha_vst | and used that for my paper terain |
| 19:07.33 | Alpha_vst | and now everything is linked |
| 19:07.36 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 19:07.38 | Atlos | I'm sure this wasn't the best way to do it but it was the only way I could figure out: Unit Group - Add all units in (Creates a list of all player 1's units of type (String(Health Pack)) within range 524288.0 of the point Center Point up to -1 units.) to unitGroup |
| 19:08.02 | Alpha_vst | you can do point /region |
| 19:08.06 | Alpha_vst | entire map |
| 19:08.51 | Fatal510 | did someone say the servers were up? |
| 19:08.53 | trololo | hey guys, i was following bifuu's tutorial on heros, and i got to the shop section and i cant seem to get selling working |
| 19:09.08 | Bifuu | what is it doing |
| 19:09.21 | trololo | o hi, its doing nothing |
| 19:09.28 | trololo | i cant right clik the shop |
| 19:09.31 | Fatal510 | trolololo! |
| 19:09.34 | trololo | i mean |
| 19:09.35 | trololo | left |
| 19:09.56 | trololo | when i hav the item right clicked and i try to sell it it just says must target inventory |
| 19:09.59 | Bifuu | so you cant select it? |
| 19:10.05 | Bifuu | oh |
| 19:10.07 | Bifuu | uhhhh |
| 19:10.32 | trololo | i got the buying working lol |
| 19:10.50 | Bifuu | then the flag for being a place to sell stuff isnt working i thunk |
| 19:11.00 | trololo | flag |
| 19:11.02 | trololo | huh |
| 19:11.11 | trololo | was i supposed to check a flag |
| 19:11.25 | Bifuu | well not flag exactly gimme a sec lemme look at it |
| 19:11.38 | trololo | aright |
| 19:11.39 | Bifuu | its been a while |
| 19:11.47 | Bifuu | so yeah i gatta look at the editor and the tut haha |
| 19:12.04 | trololo | lol |
| 19:13.45 | Atlos | damn, my fix didn't work |
| 19:13.51 | Atlos | I don't get why this trigger keeps on firing >_< |
| 19:13.56 | Bifuu | uhh did you apply the ability correctly |
| 19:14.00 | Bifuu | (not aflag) |
| 19:14.41 | Bifuu | oh wait |
| 19:14.43 | Bifuu | the items |
| 19:14.47 | trololo | yes, i think...i used a forge instead of a nexus but i made the forge, and on the abilities i removed everything and put on "pawn shop" |
| 19:14.48 | Bifuu | are the flagged for pawnable |
| 19:14.49 | trololo | huh |
| 19:14.51 | trololo | yes |
| 19:14.54 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 19:14.59 | trololo | im pretty sure lemme take a look again |
| 19:15.25 | Bifuu | its saying that because the gameis trying to give the itemto the shopand not sell it |
| 19:15.41 | trololo | yes they are pawnable |
| 19:17.06 | trololo | ive played sum other rpg that prob use the same technique and i noticed that if i hav my mouse over the selling building a selection ring pops up |
| 19:17.10 | trololo | in this case it does not |
| 19:17.17 | trololo | maybe that helps? |
| 19:18.22 | Bifuu | is the unit selectable through flags then? |
| 19:18.36 | trololo | the shop? |
| 19:18.50 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 19:19.28 | trololo | the "unselectable" is unchecked |
| 19:19.54 | trololo | but the cannot be clicked and cannot be highlighted are checked |
| 19:20.00 | Bifuu | you testing with test document? |
| 19:20.13 | Bifuu | those are fine |
| 19:20.24 | trololo | test document? |
| 19:20.31 | Bifuu | testing through the editor |
| 19:20.34 | trololo | yes |
| 19:20.38 | Bifuu | k |
| 19:20.40 | Bifuu | try saving the map |
| 19:20.48 | Bifuu | and closing and relaunching the editor |
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| 19:20.57 | Bifuu | sometimes that fixes stuff that should be working |
| 19:20.58 | Dustin | Technically Patch 16, yeah. We decided it didn't need notes being that it just fixed one crash, and beta is coming down today anyway. |
| 19:20.58 | Dustin | On that note, by the way, it looks like the servers should be up until sometime late tonight or possibly early tomorrow morning (PDT). Still no exact time decided on yet. |
| 19:21.02 | Dustin | Blue Post |
| 19:21.23 | Atlos | hmm, there's no "Pick one unit" rather than "Pick Each unit" right? |
| 19:21.30 | Atlos | would make my life easier right now |
| 19:21.47 | Atlos | in SC1 this was so simple |
| 19:21.48 | Dustin|Lunch | First of Group? |
| 19:21.59 | Dustin|Lunch | You can pick a unit by it's index in the group |
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| 19:22.04 | Bifuu | pick random unit |
| 19:22.18 | Dustin|Lunch | You have 2 different optiosn to pick one unit :P |
| 19:22.20 | Dustin|Lunch | options |
| 19:22.43 | trololo | sadly it did not fix this |
| 19:22.45 | trololo | lol |
| 19:22.51 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 19:22.56 | qwebirc71769 | anyone know where in the data editor i can make banelings damage friendly targets? |
| 19:23.08 | trololo | does it being unpowered matter |
| 19:23.09 | trololo | lol |
| 19:23.23 | Bifuu | shouldnt |
| 19:23.25 | Bifuu | but you can try |
| 19:23.44 | Bifuu | since being unpowered "disables" it |
| 19:23.48 | Bifuu | it might be that |
| 19:23.49 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 19:24.27 | Fatal510 | hmmm just noticed my editor is closed |
| 19:24.31 | Fatal510 | when i went to sleep it was open |
| 19:24.49 | Alpha_vst | GAH |
| 19:25.09 | Fatal510 | gah you face! |
| 19:25.10 | trololo | p,g |
| 19:25.13 | trololo | omg |
| 19:25.14 | trololo | it wrks |
| 19:25.18 | Bifuu | rofl |
| 19:25.20 | trololo | lolol |
| 19:25.28 | trololo | might wanna put thta in tutorial |
| 19:25.29 | trololo | lol |
| 19:26.00 | trololo | thanks tho i dont think i woulda ever thought of the unpowered |
| 19:26.19 | Bifuu | but you did |
| 19:27.18 | Kalekin | I'll take credit. |
| 19:27.20 | Alpha_vst | why does upload my map fail at trasmitting the visual file? |
| 19:27.22 | Kalekin | Np. |
| 19:27.30 | Alpha_vst | wtf is the visual file? |
| 19:27.45 | Shadowclaimer | no its not |
| 19:27.52 | AsaPhelps | obviously it thinks you're trying to send porn alpha |
| 19:28.05 | trololo | i know i did but if u didnt help me i would just be stuck at it not wrking cuz i am a noob or sumthing lol |
| 19:28.08 | Alpha_vst | seriously |
| 19:30.26 | rrowland | is writing up a resume for blizzard |
| 19:30.34 | trololo | ok sooo if i pick up multiple duplicate items |
| 19:30.40 | trololo | and i drop one of the duplicates |
| 19:30.43 | trololo | the buff is removed |
| 19:30.56 | trololo | is there any way to fix this |
| 19:31.40 | Shadowclaimer | that used to be my dream job Rrowland lol |
| 19:31.53 | rrowland | Still is for me :) |
| 19:31.56 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 19:32.02 | Alpha_vst | your amazing |
| 19:32.04 | rrowland | I want to work in game design |
| 19:32.04 | Alpha_vst | you can do it |
| 19:32.08 | Shadowclaimer | I have a deep hatred for Blizzard nowadays so |
| 19:32.11 | Shadowclaimer | I'll go with a better company ;D |
| 19:32.14 | rrowland | And Blizz is the best game design company out there |
| 19:32.18 | Shadowclaimer | Pfft |
| 19:32.19 | Shadowclaimer | Relic |
| 19:32.38 | rrowland | I appreciate the quality that goes into every single blizzard title |
| 19:32.43 | rrowland | They never pump out shit |
| 19:32.59 | rrowland | Battle.net 2.0 excused |
| 19:33.01 | Alpha_vst | sc2 is getting pushed out in a bad state... |
| 19:33.03 | AsaPhelps | What about into their bnet |
| 19:33.29 | rrowland | I don't agree with bnet but I'm sure they'll fix it before release |
| 19:33.32 | rrowland | Or shortly after |
| 19:33.37 | Alpha_vst | hopefully |
| 19:33.50 | Alpha_vst | there was a post that bioshock responded to... |
| 19:33.53 | Alpha_vst | on all the issues |
| 19:33.54 | A1win | just like they've got rid of lag on wow servers? ;> |
| 19:34.17 | Shadowclaimer | I'm not a fan of Blizzard because of their course of action on WoW, that's what kinda killed htem for me |
| 19:34.23 | Shadowclaimer | Warcraft 3 was amazing, WoW was great /at first/ |
| 19:34.31 | rrowland | WoW dominates all other MMOs |
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| 19:34.36 | rrowland | Diablo dominates all of its genre |
| 19:34.42 | rrowland | And SC2 dominates all RTS |
| 19:34.48 | rrowland | Because they're all quality |
| 19:34.49 | Fatal510 | Eve > all other MMOs |
| 19:34.52 | Shadowclaimer | Last point I'll go against |
| 19:34.53 | rrowland | Regardless of the state of bnet |
| 19:34.58 | Shadowclaimer | I don't think Sc2 dominates all RTS's |
| 19:35.03 | Fatal510 | yes it does |
| 19:35.04 | Shadowclaimer | its a good one, one of the best, but not THE best |
| 19:35.05 | Alpha_vst | it does |
| 19:35.10 | rrowland | It's definitely the best |
| 19:35.12 | Shadowclaimer | Why? |
| 19:35.16 | rrowland | It's the most balanced |
| 19:35.23 | Shadowclaimer | That's not a reason to make it the best |
| 19:35.28 | rrowland | It derives its balance directly from THE most balanced, bw |
| 19:35.31 | rrowland | Yes it is |
| 19:35.34 | rrowland | RTS is all about balance |
| 19:35.36 | Alpha_vst | it has amazing game play? |
| 19:35.38 | Shadowclaimer | I've found RTS's that are perfectly balanced too |
| 19:35.40 | Alpha_vst | yeah it is |
| 19:35.46 | Shadowclaimer | its not the first |
| 19:35.50 | rrowland | First off |
| 19:35.55 | rrowland | No RTS is perfectly balanced |
| 19:35.58 | rrowland | Not even BW |
| 19:36.02 | rrowland | So that's bullshit |
| 19:36.04 | Shadowclaimer | Alright for the mostpart balanced |
| 19:36.06 | Shadowclaimer | BW? |
| 19:36.11 | Shadowclaimer | Brood War? |
| 19:36.12 | rrowland | Brood war |
| 19:36.12 | Alpha_vst | brood war |
| 19:36.22 | Shadowclaimer | I wasn't a fan of SC1's multiplayer melee |
| 19:36.24 | Fatal510 | age of empires: age of kings was the best RTS of all time |
| 19:36.28 | AsaPhelps | So sc2 will be balanced after the 3rd expansion |
| 19:36.29 | Shadowclaimer | lol Fatal has one of my votes |
| 19:36.36 | Shadowclaimer | but it was imbalanced as crap |
| 19:36.37 | Bifuu | big women |
| 19:36.49 | Shadowclaimer | some racial units and abilities were beyond too good |
| 19:36.52 | rrowland | SC2 is already balanced |
| 19:37.02 | Fatal510 | you know whats not balanced? |
| 19:37.10 | Fatal510 | the comment question of the day |
| 19:37.15 | rrowland | Within a 5% win-loss difference between races |
| 19:37.51 | AsaPhelps | Is tf2 balanced? |
| 19:38.11 | Shadowclaimer | I think TF2 is on its way, but the game plays off its imbalances in a rock-paper-scissors fun way |
| 19:38.17 | rrowland | It's an FPS, an entirely different subject |
| 19:38.21 | Shadowclaimer | I don't think Balance necessarily facilitates a fun game |
| 19:38.26 | Shadowclaimer | Look at Diablo 2 |
| 19:38.34 | Shadowclaimer | Its imbalance made it balanced |
| 19:38.35 | Skizot | NOOOOOOBBBSS |
| 19:38.35 | rrowland | It's not about fun as much as it's about competition |
| 19:38.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ignorance (~daviddavi@ip98-164-199-113.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 19:38.46 | rrowland | SC2 is designed for esports as much as BW was |
| 19:38.53 | rrowland | When you're winning you have fun |
| 19:38.53 | alp82 | but not the custom maps |
| 19:38.56 | Shadowclaimer | I'll cede from teh argument actually |
| 19:38.56 | Ignorance | hey |
| 19:38.59 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Skizot] by ChanServ |
| 19:39.01 | monoframe | Shadow, it's still fun to entrap enemies with Necro using bones :( |
| 19:39.02 | Shadowclaimer | because I'll end up ranting and arguing |
| 19:39.33 | monoframe | So fun vs balancing ? |
| 19:39.45 | rrowland | If it's imbalanced it will be less fun for people who are better at the game |
| 19:39.56 | rrowland | They go hand in hand |
| 19:40.05 | Shadowclaimer | But people who are better at the game capitalize on imbalances primarily |
| 19:40.18 | rrowland | I'm not sure if I should use my AI as part of my portfolio to submit to Blizz |
| 19:40.18 | Fatal510 | Ignorance is here |
| 19:40.22 | monoframe | why so? demoknight surely was fun to play while the sword was OP |
| 19:40.23 | Fatal510 | we can all rest in peace now |
| 19:40.26 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 19:40.28 | Ignorance | lkol |
| 19:40.43 | Shadowclaimer | Demo is still fun to play with the sword/axe actually |
| 19:40.52 | Shadowclaimer | TF2 is just over the top lol |
| 19:41.00 | Shadowclaimer | its a category all on its own |
| 19:41.02 | monoframe | Over the top with hats |
| 19:41.05 | Shadowclaimer | Hell yea |
| 19:41.09 | monoframe | I mean, it needs mustaches |
| 19:41.10 | rrowland | I'm happy with Sniper Wars and Zone Control, they are more or less a quality I'd be proud of |
| 19:41.11 | monoframe | moustaches |
| 19:41.13 | Shadowclaimer | *chest bumps monoframe* |
| 19:41.22 | Shadowclaimer | My favorite competitive RTS |
| 19:41.24 | Shadowclaimer | was Company of Heroes |
| 19:41.52 | Shadowclaimer | That was one game I could sit and play through matches of sheer wit and strategy and not feel cheated afterwards, and every game just felt right and I could shake my opponent's hand afterwards knowing we had done our best |
| 19:41.56 | monoframe | YOU BRUISED MY FRAGILE CHEST, YOU! |
| 19:42.03 | Shadowclaimer | Shattered your ribcage with my sexy boobs? |
| 19:42.19 | Shadowclaimer | moobs* |
| 19:42.22 | monoframe | Them spiky boobs be shattering ribcages |
| 19:42.34 | Alpha_vst | OMG IT WORKED |
| 19:42.56 | Alpha_vst | who wants to play a quick test of my paper zombie map? |
| 19:43.00 | monoframe | *overjoyous* IT WORKED! Wait, what worked? |
| 19:43.09 | monoframe | "paper zombie" |
| 19:43.17 | monoframe | Is it side scroller? |
| 19:43.44 | Fatal510 | granny goose makes the best BBQ chips ever |
| 19:43.50 | Wihl | Just making sure, if a unit is shooting up a cliff or something it doesnt lose attack range right? |
| 19:44.04 | Alpha_vst | LOL OMG I FUCKED SHIT UP |
| 19:44.09 | Alpha_vst | no its top down |
| 19:44.13 | monoframe | Sounds nasty |
| 19:44.16 | Fatal510 | i want to play now! |
| 19:44.18 | Wihl | alright just double-checking |
| 19:44.19 | Fatal510 | publish it alpha |
| 19:44.27 | Alpha_vst | it is |
| 19:44.52 | Xapti | wtf.... |
| 19:45.01 | Xapti | Sixen said "Mhmm! Maps can still be played on Macs as well through MapCraft" |
| 19:45.11 | Xapti | after the servers go down |
| 19:45.13 | Alpha_vst | send me a pm if you wanna play... us... |
| 19:45.21 | Ignorance | Fatal510, did you understand what I was saying about NextPlayer()? |
| 19:45.45 | Xapti | or maybe he just means testing maps, because mac doens't have that functionality i guess |
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| 19:47.23 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 19:47.33 | Alpha_vst | cause macs dont have the editor |
| 19:47.44 | Ignorance | Why would Blizzard release a patch on the day the beta phase ends? |
| 19:47.51 | Alpha_vst | who wants to test my map real fast? |
| 19:48.05 | Ignorance | Siege Mode damage decreased from 60 to 50. |
| 19:48.08 | Ignorance | OH GOD FINALLY |
| 19:48.12 | Fatal510 | yes i got it |
| 19:48.20 | Fatal510 | all is good in my hood |
| 19:48.39 | Alpha_vst | PEOPLE ITS AMAZING |
| 19:48.43 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 19:48.47 | Ignorance | what map, Alpha? |
| 19:48.50 | Fatal510 | his math is ALMOST as good as mine |
| 19:48.53 | Fatal510 | come check it out |
| 19:48.58 | Alpha_vst | killerbeex40@yahoo.com add me us... |
| 19:49.04 | Alpha_vst | paper zxombies |
| 19:49.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Vestras (~chatzilla@188.178.103.197) |
| 19:49.16 | Fatal510 | add me to!! |
| 19:49.18 | Fatal510 | i want more friends |
| 19:49.21 | Fatal510 | shoosh510@gmail.com |
| 19:49.23 | Vestras | Hello |
| 19:49.26 | Ignorance | Alpha, you're not even online. |
| 19:49.30 | Fatal510 | yes he is |
| 19:49.32 | Fatal510 | im in the game with him |
| 19:49.33 | Ignorance | wait |
| 19:49.34 | Alpha_vst | yeah i am |
| 19:49.35 | Ignorance | yeah he is |
| 19:49.50 | Vestras | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/mapping-utilities/third-party-tools/3191-moonlite-map-studio-open-beta-release/#p2 |
| 19:50.34 | nicoli_s | welcome Vestras |
| 19:50.44 | nicoli_s | that was me(sanktanglia) asking you to come here btw |
| 19:50.45 | Vestras | Thanks |
| 19:50.55 | nicoli_s | also the one submitting a bug report earlier :P |
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| 19:51.13 | Vestras | bug report? o.O |
| 19:51.30 | nicoli_s | yah i sent a bug report for moonlite |
| 19:51.37 | nicoli_s | it crashed when trying to compile the map script |
| 19:51.52 | alp82 | Alpha_vst: i guess you wont give me a copy of your map? cause i am in europe |
| 19:51.53 | nicoli_s | i think its a x86/64 issue with mpqlib |
| 19:52.05 | Vestras | hmm |
| 19:52.17 | Vestras | looking at the exception |
| 19:52.27 | nicoli_s | as i know in MWE(the editor im working on) mpqlib only works if setting the app to be x86 specifically |
| 19:52.36 | Vestras | weird |
| 19:52.39 | nicoli_s | that on any or x64 it throws that exception |
| 19:52.49 | Vestras | hmmm |
| 19:52.50 | Ignorance | Seriously, alpha? |
| 19:52.56 | Ignorance | You'll mock me with that maze? :( |
| 19:52.56 | Fatal510 | that was fun |
| 19:52.59 | Vestras | Would kinda suck to only have x86 support |
| 19:53.04 | Ignorance | That wasn't even a maze, it was random! |
| 19:53.07 | Ignorance | Raaaandom! |
| 19:53.21 | Fatal510 | they are control points you are suppose to take overi think |
| 19:53.24 | Fatal510 | not a maze |
| 19:53.34 | Vestras | Anyways |
| 19:53.40 | nicoli_s | Vestras: yeah its bullshit, i have a .net mpq lib that someone else coded where they implemented all the mpq functions, but its not 100% yet |
| 19:53.42 | Vestras | What do you think, nicoli_s? |
| 19:53.59 | Vestras | Yeah, I use Madox' I think he's named |
| 19:53.59 | nicoli_s | what processor do you target atm? |
| 19:54.04 | Vestras | Dunno, lol |
| 19:54.12 | nicoli_s | the one im using is coded by Foole |
| 19:54.16 | Vestras | Hmm |
| 19:54.20 | Vestras | Does it work for x64? |
| 19:54.42 | nicoli_s | yeah, but its not guaranteed to support all files and such atm |
| 19:55.55 | Vestras | hmm, okay |
| 19:56.01 | Vestras | Might change to it later |
| 19:56.07 | Fatal510 | i dont understand |
| 19:56.19 | Beider | does anyone know if you can use the border images that are in the game as just a single image.. as in I want to create only the right side of a border, not the entire square |
| 19:56.22 | Vestras | Does it throw an exception every 3000 or so milliseconds? |
| 19:56.48 | nicoli_s | dont think so, im pretty sure i had it running that long without it happening |
| 19:56.54 | Vestras | Okay |
| 19:57.00 | Vestras | Then it's when importing files |
| 19:57.10 | nicoli_s | and Properties -> Build - > Platform target is where you change the processor you target |
| 19:57.15 | nicoli_s | oh i know its when importing files |
| 19:57.24 | nicoli_s | the error happens when it tries to use mpqlib for the first time |
| 19:57.38 | nicoli_s | i have seen that same exception in MWE many times when fucking around with that sort of stuff |
| 19:57.39 | Vestras | I use the MpqLib.dll for importing files into the map, while I use Andromeda's java mpq lib for changing the map script |
| 19:57.43 | Vestras | No no I mean |
| 19:57.48 | Vestras | Moonlite has a built in import manager |
| 19:57.50 | Vestras | Like WE's |
| 19:57.51 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 19:58.06 | Vestras | But what do you think of it? |
| 19:58.16 | Vestras | I was kinda thinking of merging your program into Moonlite |
| 19:58.23 | Vestras | Like having its terraining module in Moonlite |
| 19:58.42 | Fatal510 | so gonna have some intellisense for scripting in galaxy? |
| 19:58.47 | Vestras | Yeah |
| 19:58.49 | nicoli_s | or we could just merge your features into MWE :P |
| 19:58.50 | Vestras | OOP intellisense |
| 19:58.56 | Fatal510 | sounds awesome |
| 19:59.02 | Vestras | Nah, currently Moonlite has more features than MWE :P |
| 19:59.08 | Vestras | The andromeda parser is working and all |
| 19:59.09 | Fatal510 | ohhhh burn! |
| 19:59.09 | nicoli_s | lol except that it doesnt |
| 19:59.11 | Fatal510 | hes talking shit |
| 19:59.14 | Vestras | just needa finish the completion data provider |
| 19:59.17 | Fatal510 | you gonna take that? |
| 19:59.26 | Vestras | I wasn't dissing or anything man <.< |
| 19:59.27 | Fatal510 | FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! |
| 19:59.31 | nicoli_s | no offense man, but ive seen yer stuff and what it does, MWE has wayyy more features |
| 19:59.36 | Fatal510 | ohhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 19:59.39 | Vestras | For galaxy :) |
| 19:59.41 | Vestras | True |
| 19:59.45 | Fatal510 | prove it on the dance floor! |
| 19:59.47 | Alpha_vst | WOOT MY MAP DOESNT LOAD THE TEXTURES ON BNET |
| 19:59.50 | Alpha_vst | FUCK YOU GAME |
| 19:59.56 | Vestras | But well |
| 19:59.57 | nicoli_s | data editing ,unit placement ,unit viewing, galaxy editing, galaxy auto complete, galaxy importing, galaxy syntax checking, etc etc |
| 20:00.18 | Vestras | Moonlite has everything of that but unit placement and unit viewing |
| 20:00.25 | Fatal510 | so is your program usable right no nicoli_s |
| 20:00.31 | Vestras | and it supports OOP |
| 20:00.33 | Fatal510 | now* |
| 20:00.33 | nicoli_s | well yer data editing is just viewing xml not really the same :P |
| 20:00.34 | Ignorance | oh, the terrain for the real game isn't random at all, is it? lol |
| 20:00.41 | Alpha_vst | its not |
| 20:00.41 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 20:00.42 | Vestras | and later you will be able to script your object data |
| 20:00.43 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 20:00.44 | Ignorance | I bet there's a way |
| 20:00.45 | Vestras | true |
| 20:00.48 | Ignorance | to write islands like that, though |
| 20:00.49 | Vestras | like |
| 20:01.07 | Alpha_vst | the issue isnt with the walls though :P |
| 20:01.13 | Ignorance | oh? |
| 20:01.16 | Ignorance | What's the issue? |
| 20:01.17 | Vestras | for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++) { |
| 20:01.19 | Vestras | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.21 | Vestras | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.21 | nicoli_s | sorry dont mean to be rude, but ?MWE is my baby :P |
| 20:01.22 | Vestras | } |
| 20:01.30 | Vestras | same with me :P |
| 20:01.33 | Alpha_vst | its the way i do the initial spawns |
| 20:01.35 | Fatal510 | that sounds awesome |
| 20:01.42 | Vestras | but I think if we merged it'd be even better |
| 20:01.43 | Ignorance | and whenever it's on top of a wall, it bugs out? |
| 20:01.45 | Fatal510 | id love to do triggers that way |
| 20:01.52 | Alpha_vst | it can be on top of a wall |
| 20:01.56 | Alpha_vst | cant |
| 20:02.00 | Sholdak | Vestras: do you actually have a license for your devexpress stuff? |
| 20:02.03 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 20:02.09 | Vestras | Sholdak: yeah I do |
| 20:02.14 | Vestras | I work as a programmer |
| 20:02.43 | Sholdak | mm, k |
| 20:02.53 | Fatal510 | i have a license to drive |
| 20:02.56 | nicoli_s | Vestras: we have a channel for MWE btw if you wanted to discuss that with us |
| 20:02.58 | Ignorance | You might want to consider marking down where your walls are, so you can make it so they don't spawn where they are. Alternatively, you could spawn the hives before the walls, if there are fewer of them. |
| 20:03.00 | nicoli_s | #MWE |
| 20:03.02 | Ignorance | Same principle, though. |
| 20:03.05 | Sholdak | cause we use it at my work, but their stuff is fairly expensive |
| 20:03.10 | Vestras | nicoli_s you should try the jass code completion |
| 20:03.13 | AsaPhelps | haha, this movie the mist is so funny |
| 20:03.15 | Vestras | Yeah, it is |
| 20:03.18 | Alpha_vst | i take the a random 3 spawn points from the play area and set it as a region then i create the player units and remove that region |
| 20:03.20 | Ignorance | It's strange, though |
| 20:03.22 | Ignorance | considering that |
| 20:03.28 | Alpha_vst | and use the other 2 for the zombies |
| 20:03.28 | nicoli_s | Vestras: i gave up wc3 stuff many years ago :P |
| 20:03.30 | Ignorance | I can spawn fires |
| 20:03.32 | Alpha_vst | buts it bugs out |
| 20:03.34 | Ignorance | literally on top of walls |
| 20:03.37 | Ignorance | and it wont bug out |
| 20:03.37 | Ignorance | at all |
| 20:03.54 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 20:04.00 | Ignorance | like |
| 20:04.05 | Ignorance | my fire spawning algorithm |
| 20:04.06 | Ignorance | is literally |
| 20:04.07 | Alpha_vst | its not the placement thats an issue |
| 20:04.08 | Pandepic | alpha |
| 20:04.09 | Ignorance | random point in area |
| 20:04.11 | Pandepic | are you still testing your map? |
| 20:04.24 | Alpha_vst | if you wanna get owned sure :P |
| 20:04.24 | Ignorance | So, if it's not placement that's the issue, then what IS the issue? |
| 20:04.28 | Pandepic | haha |
| 20:04.29 | Ignorance | I'm not sure what you're saying. :P |
| 20:04.34 | Alpha_vst | its the selecting of the random point |
| 20:04.42 | Ignorance | And what's wrong with it? |
| 20:04.57 | Alpha_vst | it some times selects a point already taken to spawn my units |
| 20:05.07 | Alpha_vst | which as you saw the first time breaks the game |
| 20:05.07 | Ignorance | oh |
| 20:05.22 | Alpha_vst | but its rare |
| 20:05.35 | Ignorance | I think I know how to fix that. |
| 20:05.35 | Alpha_vst | im sure i just need to add more checks to it |
| 20:05.43 | Ignorance | I had to deal with that problem with drawing from a card deck |
| 20:05.58 | Ignorance | you have to make sure all of the cards are unique, i.e. it never draws the same card twice |
| 20:06.10 | Ignorance | It is by no means a simple problem. |
| 20:06.13 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 20:06.24 | Alpha_vst | why i have not bothered fixing it yet |
| 20:06.29 | Ignorance | I could give you a copy of my poker stuff if you want. :P |
| 20:06.34 | Ignorance | It might help you figure out what you need. |
| 20:06.39 | Pandepic | lol there's another patch? |
| 20:06.56 | Alpha_vst | its ok i know how to fix it for the most part |
| 20:07.02 | Ignorance | alright |
| 20:07.09 | Alpha_vst | i also have to check if there is enough random points |
| 20:07.15 | Ignorance | mmm |
| 20:07.16 | Fatal510 | you make me my tower yet? |
| 20:07.21 | Alpha_vst | which is another issue that can cause it |
| 20:08.23 | Ignorance | To be honest, I think you'd probably be best off with something that generates a small number of random "structures" along the lines of my maze blockers |
| 20:08.39 | Ignorance | make them in such a way that they could never reach eachother |
| 20:09.04 | Alpha_vst | i just have holes in my code is all |
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| 20:09.22 | Alpha_vst | i plan to redo the generating at some point though and improve it |
| 20:09.38 | Ignorance | pretty much write an algorithm to write a loop (i.e. motion always one left, up, down or straight, reverse when you've gone far enough) |
| 20:09.44 | Ignorance | and then fill in the structure |
| 20:10.00 | Ignorance | and have these located on something of random locations on a grid |
| 20:10.07 | Ignorance | so that they never touch |
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| 20:10.26 | Alpha_vst | yeah i dont want to think about that stuff yet :P |
| 20:10.29 | Ignorance | alright |
| 20:10.52 | Pandepic | so was that a yes on wanting me to test it with you alpha? =P |
| 20:10.54 | Ignorance | >_> I enjoy making random structures/mazes. |
| 20:11.02 | Alpha_vst | sure if you wanna die |
| 20:11.04 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 20:11.10 | Pandepic | pft, I'll own your map |
| 20:11.14 | Alpha_vst | and not see the awesome textures |
| 20:11.21 | Alpha_vst | cause bnet doesnt load them |
| 20:11.26 | Pandepic | =O |
| 20:11.44 | Pandepic | well, I'm just volunteering in case you needed someone =P |
| 20:13.01 | Alpha_vst | i will let you play |
| 20:13.15 | Alpha_vst | add me |
| 20:14.25 | Alpha_vst | im thinking about making the basic zombies die in 1 hit to normal untis 0.o |
| 20:14.35 | Alpha_vst | it only seems fair |
| 20:14.51 | Fatal510 | i think its time to make a sticky goo tower |
| 20:14.58 | Alpha_vst | ewwwwwwwww |
| 20:16.01 | Alpha_vst | did bnet patch mess up the custom game rooms |
| 20:16.05 | Alpha_vst | or is it my map :P |
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| 20:19.15 | trololo | how do i make dark templar not invisable |
| 20:19.26 | trololo | nvm |
| 20:21.18 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 20:21.35 | Xapti | hey guys... you know the problem where if you test someone else's map |
| 20:21.45 | Xapti | and a bunch of strings are turned int o PARAM 23243 |
| 20:21.50 | Xapti | and stuff |
| 20:22.07 | Xapti | what causes that, and why/how was the creator so oblivious to the problem? |
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| 20:22.33 | AsaPhelps | its localization |
| 20:22.44 | AsaPhelps | it works fine in their language |
| 20:22.48 | Xapti | yeah ok |
| 20:22.56 | Xapti | but won't work for any others? |
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| 20:23.21 | Xapti | I downloaded an english one, but It said enGB, so maybe it's not compatible with enUS lol |
| 20:23.39 | AsaPhelps | I don't know what gb is |
| 20:23.43 | Xapti | britan |
| 20:23.44 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 20:24.29 | AsaPhelps | hey heysparky |
| 20:24.56 | AsaPhelps | this movie is so bad |
| 20:25.03 | AsaPhelps | at least to me |
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| 20:29.24 | Pandepic | asa, have you made any more groundbreaking advertising breakthroughs? =D |
| 20:29.30 | Alpha_vst | HEY SPARKY |
| 20:30.09 | Sixen | Xapti: Macs can plays maps. I meant that. |
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| 20:30.37 | AsaPhelps | what do you mean pan? |
| 20:30.44 | AsaPhelps | oh |
| 20:30.46 | AsaPhelps | well not yet |
| 20:31.12 | AsaPhelps | I'd think you could embed an image |
| 20:31.19 | AsaPhelps | but I tried a custom one and it didn't work |
| 20:31.34 | Dustin|Lunch | Wc3 has a problem with Macs and displaying images |
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| 20:31.51 | Xapti | macs dont' normally have a test document feature? |
| 20:32.15 | Sixen | aPatch 16 today |
| 20:32.15 | Sixen | ? |
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| 20:32.18 | Xapti | yes |
| 20:32.23 | Sixen | Xapti, there is. Just trust me :P |
| 20:32.30 | Dustin | Sixen it's a bug fix patch they said |
| 20:32.38 | Alpha_vst | anyone want to test the new easy mode of my map? |
| 20:32.42 | Xapti | I'm i'm just asking, cause I have no idea what macs can and can't do normallu |
| 20:32.47 | Alpha_vst | still without textures :( |
| 20:32.52 | Sixen | I don't see any Patch Notes, =| |
| 20:32.54 | Kalekin | Is it possible to get the ID of a player? |
| 20:33.11 | Xapti | you're saying macs can play single player maps right? |
| 20:33.20 | Xapti | yeah patch 16 did almost nothing, so there's no notes |
| 20:33.26 | Xapti | I hear it made replays unviewable though |
| 20:33.35 | Alpha_vst | they did |
| 20:34.32 | Fisker | CHAMPIONS ATTACK |
| 20:35.06 | Alpha_vst | what id? |
| 20:35.32 | Kalekin | Uhm |
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| 20:35.39 | Kalekin | nick/whatever that other thing is |
| 20:35.47 | Kalekin | nick/realid or something |
| 20:36.00 | Razernok | How can I show a full view of a unit in a portrait? |
| 20:36.02 | Kalekin | Are either of those retrievable? |
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| 20:36.35 | Beertycoon | hi |
| 20:36.39 | Azu | is it only me that reeaaally wants the new iphone :x? |
| 20:36.47 | Dustin | Yup |
| 20:36.51 | Azu | figured |
| 20:37.01 | Dustin | <-- Hates macs and mac products |
| 20:37.02 | Bifuu | i might get it |
| 20:37.22 | Razernok | I guess no answer then |
| 20:37.57 | Bifuu | Razernok: theres no complete unit model for portrait |
| 20:38.19 | Bifuu | you can prolly set the unit model itself there |
| 20:38.24 | Bifuu | in actor data |
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| 20:41.19 | bam_ftw | is there way not to get error while trying to move unit that doesnt belong to you |
| 20:41.22 | bam_ftw | ? |
| 20:42.12 | Razernok | no matter what i use for camera to look through it won't show a full model |
| 20:42.36 | Dustin | It probably uses the portrait camera for the model view |
| 20:43.00 | Razernok | it ask you in the action what camera to look through |
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| 20:49.11 | Razernok | :( nothing works and no one will help |
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| 20:51.07 | vjeux | puppy! |
| 20:51.17 | Alcoholix | I forgot to feed him |
| 20:54.23 | AsaPhelps | this movie the mist is so bad, who recommended it? |
| 20:56.20 | Fatal510 | razernok |
| 20:56.23 | Fatal510 | i am here to help you friend |
| 20:56.27 | Fatal510 | what do you need |
| 20:56.34 | Razernok | How can I show a full view of a unit in a portrait? |
| 20:56.50 | Hati | Feed the puppie! |
| 20:56.54 | Fatal510 | make the model smaller |
| 20:57.08 | Bifuu | the puppy bit me |
| 20:57.15 | Razernok | how? |
| 20:57.25 | Fatal510 | the scale option |
| 20:58.19 | Razernok | I don't see a way to scale the model a portrait is using |
| 20:58.35 | Hati | ModelData |
| 20:58.50 | Razernok | huh? |
| 20:59.17 | Razernok | oh wait, you mean edit the model. well i can't afford 3ds max so i can't do that |
| 20:59.36 | Fatal510 | has he openly admited to being martul / a troll yet? |
| 20:59.37 | Alpha_vst | stop feeding him guys |
| 20:59.46 | Alpha_vst | he never will |
| 20:59.54 | Pandepic | <bam_ftw> is there way not to get error while trying to move unit that doesnt belong to you |
| 20:59.54 | Pandepic | <bam_ftw> ? |
| 20:59.58 | Pandepic | you need to share control |
| 21:00.01 | Pandepic | through alliance |
| 21:00.09 | Fatal510 | i dont understand why is has not been removed from the channel |
| 21:00.28 | Alpha_vst | he jsut comes back |
| 21:00.32 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 21:00.32 | Pandepic | lol Fatal |
| 21:00.39 | Pandepic | he just keeps complaining about not being able to afford 3ds max |
| 21:00.45 | Pandepic | no matter what question he asks |
| 21:00.49 | Alpha_vst | yeah thats his new thing |
| 21:01.00 | Kaelten | back up guys |
| 21:01.30 | Fatal510 | go torrent the shit if you cant afford it |
| 21:01.30 | Fatal510 | i know its not "right", but i dont pay for anything if i can get it for free online |
| 21:01.41 | Pandepic | a lot of people torrent 3ds max lol |
| 21:01.44 | Pandepic | because it's so expensive |
| 21:01.54 | Alpha_vst | like photoshop |
| 21:02.03 | Kaelten | 3dsmax makes photoshop look cheap |
| 21:02.10 | Kaelten | at least last I looked |
| 21:02.38 | Hati | and blender makes 3dsmax look overpriced :D |
| 21:03.20 | Razernok | so, How can I show a full view of a unit in a portrait? |
| 21:03.20 | Alpha_vst | you dont |
| 21:03.20 | Razernok | without editing the model |
| 21:03.20 | nicoli_s | well at least 3dsmax is available to schools |
| 21:03.20 | Alpha_vst | its its own model |
| 21:03.20 | Zergkite[Bambi] | how do i add models to a copied unit? |
| 21:03.22 | nicoli_s | and you could always get trials of 2011,2010,2009, and 2008 and have it for 4 months for free :P |
| 21:03.27 | Xan | just |
| 21:03.29 | Xan | download 3dsmax |
| 21:03.30 | Xan | ^^ |
| 21:03.32 | Pandepic | Zergkite: go to the actor |
| 21:03.34 | Pandepic | and set models there |
| 21:03.38 | Pandepic | they will be added to the unit |
| 21:04.32 | Clord | that is hardly good end result usually |
| 21:04.34 | Alpha_vst | does anyone know how you can cahgne the text color of player chat in game |
| 21:04.41 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zsurvival/. Zombie Survival. hrimfisk (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 21:04.46 | Pandepic | what is not a good end result? |
| 21:04.48 | Clord | it is way easier to duplicate actors alongside with units |
| 21:04.48 | Xan | 3dsmax is meant for huge corporations buying licenses, they dont care if any private person download it, same with photoshop |
| 21:04.55 | Alpha_vst | NO |
| 21:04.59 | Alpha_vst | DONT DUPLICATE |
| 21:05.01 | Alpha_vst | GAH |
| 21:05.01 | Pandepic | I was assuming his unit already had it's own actor... |
| 21:05.08 | Alpha_vst | you infalte your map with crap |
| 21:05.32 | Fatal510 | my mom is probly inflated with so much not needed data |
| 21:05.41 | Fatal510 | when i finally do make a offical release ill clean it up... |
| 21:05.44 | Fatal510 | map |
| 21:05.46 | Pandepic | lol |
| 21:05.46 | Fatal510 | LOL |
| 21:05.46 | Alpha_vst | your mom |
| 21:05.48 | Fatal510 | i siad mom |
| 21:05.52 | Fatal510 | im out of my mind |
| 21:05.55 | Pandepic | I don't see how setting the unit's model in it's actor is a bad thing... |
| 21:05.55 | Alpha_vst | i was like what |
| 21:06.01 | Pandepic | since it's kind of how you're meant to do it |
| 21:06.03 | Clord | I really duplicate actors when I need to change sizes etc |
| 21:06.05 | Alpha_vst | its the best way to do it |
| 21:06.39 | Alpha_vst | if you copy a unit and everything inside of it just a bunch of wasted space really |
| 21:06.50 | Pandepic | yeah I usually just duplicate the actor |
| 21:06.51 | Alpha_vst | you dont need copies of sounds and all that crap |
| 21:06.53 | Pandepic | and the weapon |
| 21:07.03 | Pandepic | and then rename them |
| 21:07.10 | Pandepic | otherwise you end up with |
| 21:07.13 | Pandepic | soundeffect1 copy |
| 21:07.16 | Pandepic | soundeffect1 copy copy |
| 21:07.26 | Pandepic | soundeffect1 copy copy copy copy |
| 21:07.29 | Fatal510 | i have alot of copys of copy os copys |
| 21:07.43 | Pandepic | lol |
| 21:07.44 | Fatal510 | there should be a clean tool |
| 21:07.44 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 21:07.50 | Pandepic | I duplicated everything in my first map experiment |
| 21:07.52 | Fatal510 | that will remove unused stuff |
| 21:07.55 | Pandepic | man my data list was so horrible |
| 21:07.55 | Alpha_vst | no you shouldnt do that |
| 21:08.04 | Alpha_vst | your doing it the worst way possible |
| 21:08.16 | Fatal510 | nothing i do is the best way |
| 21:08.20 | Fatal510 | but my ways get the job done |
| 21:08.21 | Pandepic | lol |
| 21:08.32 | Dustin | I wish you could rename stuff in bulk when when duplicating |
| 21:08.41 | Pandepic | ^ this |
| 21:08.42 | Beider | anyone else had problems with galaxy editor suddenly thinking that your ctrl key or mouse buttons are pushed down even though they are not being touched? |
| 21:08.51 | Fatal510 | nope |
| 21:08.54 | AsaPhelps | are you using a wireless keyboard? |
| 21:08.54 | Beider | Far too often I end up dragging triggers around when I click them |
| 21:08.54 | Pandepic | no Beider |
| 21:08.58 | Beider | nope |
| 21:09.00 | Fatal510 | sounds like you got a dirty keyboard |
| 21:09.08 | AsaPhelps | gross. |
| 21:09.09 | Pandepic | or your mouse is broken |
| 21:09.11 | Fatal510 | nasty... |
| 21:09.13 | Xan | happens when you switch between mouse 1 and mouse 2 while holding shift/ctrl for me only |
| 21:09.22 | Beider | Don't have the problem in any other application |
| 21:09.22 | Xan | some weird combo :) |
| 21:09.23 | AsaPhelps | what kind of maps have you been making that gets your keyboard dirty? |
| 21:09.24 | Beider | only galaxy editor |
| 21:09.30 | Pandepic | asa |
| 21:09.33 | Pandepic | you're a bad man! |
| 21:09.41 | Fatal510 | i think he made the porn dota map |
| 21:09.46 | Beider | also, it only seems to happen when I edit libraries |
| 21:09.47 | AsaPhelps | is there one? |
| 21:09.50 | Xan | probably |
| 21:09.54 | Pandepic | if there is ever a porn map |
| 21:10.00 | Fatal510 | word on the street is that there is one |
| 21:10.04 | Pandepic | it will be asa's fault for coming up with the idea |
| 21:10.05 | Pandepic | =P |
| 21:10.08 | AsaPhelps | why aren't there porn maps? i'm a bit disappointed |
| 21:10.14 | AsaPhelps | wc3 had a bunch |
| 21:10.17 | AsaPhelps | or so I heard |
| 21:10.20 | Pandepic | lol yeah it did |
| 21:10.20 | Alpha_vst | Bieder I GET THAT |
| 21:10.22 | Fatal510 | i saw someone QQing about a map that had a porn video |
| 21:10.23 | Alpha_vst | ITS LAME |
| 21:10.38 | Alpha_vst | no it was QQ about a map COULD |
| 21:10.43 | Alpha_vst | not that it did |
| 21:10.52 | Pandepic | Fatal: were they QQing that the porn video wasn't hot enough? =P |
| 21:11.10 | AsaPhelps | I'm sure you could make an amusing cinematic with sc2 sounds |
| 21:11.18 | Fatal510 | the person did not want little kids seeing it |
| 21:11.20 | AsaPhelps | well maybe not with the zerg sounds |
| 21:11.24 | Pandepic | LOL |
| 21:11.34 | Pandepic | I should stop reading anything asa says |
| 21:11.46 | AsaPhelps | marines could be like "aw yeah" "thats the stuff" |
| 21:12.05 | Pandepic | IN THE REAR WITH THE GEAR! |
| 21:12.18 | Fatal510 | lol! |
| 21:12.24 | AsaPhelps | ^^^^^ |
| 21:12.31 | AsaPhelps | "i'm on it" |
| 21:12.35 | Pandepic | lol |
| 21:12.56 | Fatal510 | doesnt the medivac say "in the pipe 5 by 5" |
| 21:13.08 | AsaPhelps | i never understood what she said |
| 21:13.17 | Pandepic | yeah I don't understand it either |
| 21:14.11 | Pandepic | what a terrible shame, Razernok left |
| 21:14.22 | Atlos | wow wtf my editor just crashed >_< |
| 21:14.28 | Pandepic | maybe he's going to torrent 3ds max |
| 21:14.31 | Fatal510 | hope you saved |
| 21:14.32 | Fatal510 | 1 |
| 21:14.43 | Pandepic | Atlos: that happens to me a lot |
| 21:14.54 | Pandepic | I save so much now |
| 21:14.57 | Atlos | It usually happens after I leave it open for a while |
| 21:15.00 | Fatal510 | only time my editor crashes is when i switch between map windows |
| 21:15.02 | Pandepic | like every time I change anything at all |
| 21:15.03 | Atlos | so I'm assuming its from memory leaks? |
| 21:15.04 | Fatal510 | but it has stopped doing that lately |
| 21:15.24 | Zergkite[Bambi] | yea in sc1 |
| 21:15.34 | Pandepic | I wouldn't be surprised if it was leaking memory |
| 21:15.58 | Pandepic | you can check |
| 21:16.01 | Pandepic | in task manager |
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| 21:16.11 | Alpha_vst | medivac is referring to the storage of the ship... |
| 21:16.14 | Alpha_vst | DUH |
| 21:16.49 | Zergkite[Bambi] | Where did i find where to change the model again D: ? |
| 21:16.54 | Alpha_vst | actor |
| 21:17.03 | Pandepic | hmm |
| 21:17.13 | Zergkite[Bambi] | then where is actor x'D ? |
| 21:17.28 | Atlos | hey maybe that crash was a good thing! it fixed my map lol after I made one change |
| 21:17.38 | Pandepic | under the actors section |
| 21:17.51 | Pandepic | I'm assuming CameraUseHeightDisplacement will change the camera height when I go up cliffs? |
| 21:17.59 | Atlos | I've been trying to fix this bug for like 30 minutes when all it was was that I forgot to make the next if then else statement under the last else statement |
| 21:18.26 | Fatal510 | we all make mistakes! |
| 21:18.46 | Pandepic | lol what is CameraForceMouseRelative |
| 21:19.15 | Atlos | Is there a way to turn off the messages box? It's rather annoying |
| 21:19.54 | Pandepic | these camera functions don't seem to be in the sc2mapster API docs |
| 21:20.46 | Reactorex | pandepic, Camera Height Displacement is when the camera moves up in height to accomodate for it -before- you go up cliffs. |
| 21:20.58 | Reactorex | Whenever your camera nears a cliff, the height will raise. |
| 21:21.05 | Pandepic | ok |
| 21:21.08 | Reactorex | It's death to FPSes, but fine for most anythign else. |
| 21:21.15 | Pandepic | that's pretty much what I thought it would do |
| 21:21.25 | Pandepic | there's no description for this other function though |
| 21:21.30 | Pandepic | CameraForceMouseRelative |
| 21:21.32 | Reactorex | I turned it off for my FPS map and voilá, my map worked fine. |
| 21:22.04 | Reactorex | The camera would move up as the unit went up ramps and had no probs. |
| 21:22.17 | Reactorex | I still have a stutter problem, though. -.- |
| 21:22.23 | Fatal510 | what makes a building produce creep? |
| 21:22.32 | Alpha_vst | creep footprint |
| 21:22.37 | Fatal510 | k |
| 21:22.38 | Hati | behavior |
| 21:22.42 | Reactorex | Really? No behav- |
| 21:22.46 | Reactorex | I thought it would be a behaviour. O.o |
| 21:22.53 | Pandepic | I was about to say behaviour lol |
| 21:23.13 | Pandepic | so Reactor, you don't know what that other function does? |
| 21:23.15 | Alpha_vst | its the footprint screw you |
| 21:23.15 | Hati | footprints are just for placement |
| 21:23.20 | Reactorex | Which? |
| 21:23.20 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 21:23.23 | Reactorex | ForMouse Relative? |
| 21:23.25 | Reactorex | Force* |
| 21:23.25 | Pandepic | yeah |
| 21:23.26 | Reactorex | I do. |
| 21:23.33 | Fatal510 | there is no behavior for creep producing on any zerg building |
| 21:23.34 | Pandepic | I can guess it would somehow force the camera to move according to the mouse |
| 21:23.35 | Reactorex | You'll also see it in the GUI editor- |
| 21:23.43 | Reactorex | Force Mouse Relative Lock. |
| 21:23.44 | Alpha_vst | ITS FOOTPRINT!!!!!!!! |
| 21:23.47 | Fatal510 | i know |
| 21:23.48 | Reactorex | It enabled mouselook. |
| 21:23.53 | Reactorex | Kind of. |
| 21:23.54 | Fatal510 | im responding to the people who thought behav |
| 21:23.58 | Pandepic | I see it as CameraForceMouseRelative |
| 21:23.58 | Alpha_vst | oh |
| 21:24.06 | Pandepic | it just had no description =) |
| 21:24.15 | Alpha_vst | it makes sense that it would be but its not |
| 21:24.20 | Reactorex | That in correlation with the camera turn one makes it turn instead of move. |
| 21:24.23 | Pandepic | so I wasn't sure exactly how it would move the mouse with the camera |
| 21:24.24 | Fatal510 | hmmm but where to i control how much creep it makes >_< |
| 21:24.38 | Reactorex | CameraForceMouseRelative[Mode] |
| 21:24.42 | Alpha_vst | the footprint |
| 21:24.44 | Reactorex | It didn't say mode in the function name :P |
| 21:24.52 | Reactorex | It forces the camera to move based on the mouse's motions. |
| 21:25.01 | Reactorex | At least, that's what my studies seem to produce. |
| 21:25.13 | Reactorex | They're flawed, though, so they're not complete or entirely accurate. |
| 21:25.41 | Pandepic | thanks for the help anyway =) |
| 21:25.46 | Alpha_vst | FUCK ME |
| 21:25.47 | Pandepic | I wish it would just have a description |
| 21:25.51 | Pandepic | like most other functions |
| 21:26.04 | Pandepic | I could pretty much guess what it might do from the name |
| 21:26.07 | Pandepic | but I wasn't sure |
| 21:26.09 | Dustin | I wish all the fields had descriptions |
| 21:26.13 | AsaPhelps | for maps that disable building on certain terrain, is that just regions or do they attach that property to terrain somehow? |
| 21:26.15 | Dustin | hopefully they will at launch |
| 21:26.21 | Dustin | but im not getting my hopes up |
| 21:26.24 | Pandepic | you can set no build zones |
| 21:26.31 | Pandepic | I think it's in pathing |
| 21:26.36 | Alpha_vst | its pathing yeah |
| 21:27.25 | Pandepic | yeah Dustin, I noticed that as well lol |
| 21:27.36 | Pandepic | it's like all the obvious fields have tooltips |
| 21:27.40 | Pandepic | and the obscure ones don't |
| 21:27.44 | Pandepic | not helpful at all |
| 21:27.59 | Pandepic | I guess you just have to change stuff and see what happens sometimes =P |
| 21:28.46 | Dustin | Ya that's all you can do really :P |
| 21:29.39 | Pandepic | lol I hate my bad PC |
| 21:29.48 | Pandepic | I have to turn my map to full graphics to see how it might look |
| 21:29.54 | Pandepic | and then immediately turn it to low again |
| 21:30.04 | Alpha_vst | so my ability (stimpack) doesnt effect the Life Regeneration Delay on the unit how could i make the abilty do a dmg so it will work |
| 21:30.14 | Fatal510 | this damn spore crawler is not making creep! |
| 21:30.27 | Alpha_vst | you did it wrong |
| 21:30.35 | Pandepic | you could use a trigger alpha |
| 21:30.40 | Fatal510 | i didnt even make any changes to him |
| 21:30.44 | Pandepic | and just do damage to the unit or something |
| 21:30.44 | Fatal510 | all i did was remove the behaviors! |
| 21:30.46 | Fatal510 | you lied |
| 21:30.48 | Hati | simply attach the Hatchery behavior refering creep |
| 21:30.49 | Fatal510 | it must be a behavior |
| 21:30.51 | Pandepic | not sure if that would affect the regen |
| 21:30.54 | AsaPhelps | you could make it cause damage instead of cost life |
| 21:31.03 | Hati | Fatal10 ... you have to ADD a behavior |
| 21:31.07 | Pandepic | or listen to asa because his idea is better |
| 21:31.15 | Hati | the behaviors it has are for -damage if off-creep |
| 21:31.17 | Pandepic | lol I use triggers for too much data editor stuff... |
| 21:31.32 | Alpha_vst | i can make it cause dmg instead of cost life? |
| 21:31.34 | Alpha_vst | how? |
| 21:31.55 | AsaPhelps | effect instant, then make an effect that does 10 damage to caster would be my guess |
| 21:32.04 | AsaPhelps | people wouldn't know the cause but thats too damn bad |
| 21:32.08 | AsaPhelps | or make it do like 1 damage |
| 21:32.25 | AsaPhelps | or make it do 1 damage then heal then for 1 damage |
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| 21:36.45 | Alpha_vst | i think i got it |
| 21:36.54 | Alpha_vst | effect damage lol |
| 21:37.12 | Alpha_vst | but it didnt work :( |
| 21:37.37 | Atlos | great success my inventory system is now 99% done for the most part |
| 21:37.52 | Atlos | besides adding functionality |
| 21:37.59 | Beider | Does anyone know if it is possible to design our own text styles? Such a pain to go over all the ones in the editor trying to find one that fits |
| 21:38.42 | Alpha_vst | probably not which is a big let down |
| 21:38.53 | Beider | hmz |
| 21:38.58 | Beider | does anyone know of a really big style then? |
| 21:39.01 | Beider | I need a huge header |
| 21:39.37 | Atlos | there's a picture someone made that shows like 50 different styles |
| 21:39.40 | Atlos | actually more like 100 |
| 21:39.42 | AsaPhelps | EditorOverlay |
| 21:39.48 | Atlos | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/3/164/3ICE_s_SC2_Styles.jpg |
| 21:39.49 | Atlos | found it |
| 21:40.02 | Beider | ohh nice |
| 21:40.03 | Atlos | ChallengeSet is big |
| 21:40.10 | Beider | thanks |
| 21:40.12 | Beider | that pic is awesome |
| 21:40.21 | Atlos | np, yea I find it very useful |
| 21:42.29 | nicoli_s | thats a cool idea for an image |
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| 21:42.56 | Alpha_vst | wtf is aracde fighter? |
| 21:43.06 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 21:43.07 | Pandepic | are there any models for like |
| 21:43.08 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 21:43.09 | Pandepic | a campaign tent |
| 21:43.10 | Alpha_vst | OMG |
| 21:43.18 | nicoli_s | yes Alpha_vst? |
| 21:43.19 | Alpha_vst | MY UNITS GLOW |
| 21:43.22 | Alpha_vst | THEY GLOW |
| 21:43.23 | Pandepic | lol |
| 21:43.29 | Alpha_vst | FUCKIGN AWESOME |
| 21:43.30 | nicoli_s | screenshot or it didnt happen as usual |
| 21:44.11 | Alpha_vst | AND MY ABILITY WORKS |
| 21:44.22 | Pandepic | alpha, do you know of any models that look like a campaign tent? |
| 21:44.43 | Alpha_vst | my units take dmg for casting stimpack |
| 21:44.50 | AsaPhelps | did you use my idea? |
| 21:44.55 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 21:44.57 | AsaPhelps | NICE |
| 21:45.03 | Alpha_vst | i added a glow effect when stim is used |
| 21:45.05 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 21:45.16 | Alpha_vst | pretty awesome im keeping it |
| 21:45.21 | AsaPhelps | like cloak glow? |
| 21:45.40 | nicoli_s | dont uints normally take damage when casting stimpack?\ |
| 21:45.41 | Alpha_vst | its a actor message |
| 21:45.44 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 21:45.50 | Alpha_vst | they cost life |
| 21:45.54 | Alpha_vst | its nto dmg |
| 21:46.35 | Dustin | Vital Cost |
| 21:47.01 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/spinecrawler-defense-4-ways/. SpineCrawler Defense 4 Ways. WarGodz (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sanktanglia. |
| 21:47.02 | Alpha_vst | yeah it was fucking up my life regen |
| 21:47.05 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/test111/. test111. ctccromer (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
| 21:47.09 | Alpha_vst | so they would insta heal |
| 21:47.12 | Alpha_vst | was no good |
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| 21:50.03 | HotPotatoe | who said they wanted to make the Lurker? |
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| 21:52.04 | Atlos | whats the best way to add life, with triggers or through a behavior? |
| 21:52.18 | Atlos | aka when my hero uses a medpack |
| 21:53.54 | Alpha_vst | um the item when used should have a life thing |
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| 21:54.03 | Alpha_vst | did you follow bifuu tutorial? |
| 21:54.16 | Atlos | I'm using an inventory made through dialogs and triggers |
| 21:54.32 | Atlos | not the data editor one |
| 21:54.51 | Atlos | so I wasn't sure if I should do it the same way as his tutorial |
| 21:55.08 | Dustin | Did biffuu make an item tut ? |
| 21:55.48 | HP-X|Arthas | Dustin: yes |
| 21:55.57 | Dustin | I need to read that bitch then |
| 21:56.03 | Dustin | Wheres it at? tut forum? |
| 21:56.12 | HP-X|Arthas | at wiki |
| 21:56.17 | HP-X|Arthas | complete hero tutorial or something |
| 21:56.29 | HP-X|Arthas | wtf, they didnt kill the servers? |
| 21:56.35 | Dustin | they go down later tonight |
| 21:56.36 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ |
| 21:56.40 | HP-X|Arthas | there ya go :) |
| 21:57.03 | Clord | if blizzard time works in reverse too |
| 21:57.07 | Clord | "couple of week before" XD |
| 21:57.13 | Clord | can be that we get beta back even sooner |
| 21:57.18 | Clord | for next phase |
| 21:57.19 | Dustin | ty :) |
| 21:57.33 | Dustin | Oh that one |
| 21:57.35 | Alpha_vst | woot i made stim a duration effect |
| 21:57.36 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 21:57.38 | Dustin | Ya that one is confusing as fuck! |
| 21:57.50 | Clord | I don't think most seriously think it takes weeks of them to set those new servers to work with battle.net |
| 21:58.13 | Clord | there is other reasons behind such huge delay |
| 21:58.25 | Alpha_vst | they probably dont even have them yet why the delayed the turning it off |
| 21:58.47 | nicoli_s | they probably have all the info they need right now with the current setup, and wont need any testing till all the final features are done |
| 21:58.55 | Bifuu | its not confusing >.< |
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| 21:59.07 | Alpha_vst | bifuu tut is not confusing |
| 21:59.29 | Dustin | It is :P |
| 21:59.32 | Bifuu | lies |
| 21:59.44 | HotPotatoe | has anyone made Obverse Incubation yet? |
| 21:59.58 | HotPotatoe | I'm having trouble |
| 22:00.08 | Dustin | I couldnt find anything in it about attaching actos to the items :P |
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| 22:00.09 | AsaPhelps | I'm sure they want to start the catalcysm beta soon |
| 22:00.11 | Clord | there is also matter of release sales... past stage of beta is stress test and marketing tool for more sales |
| 22:00.25 | Clord | last stage of beta |
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| 22:02.42 | Alpha_vst | next stage of beta we will be on the real servers |
| 22:02.53 | Bifuu | because i assumed you read my first tutorial |
| 22:03.07 | Dustin | There was a first one? |
| 22:03.13 | Bifuu | top of the page |
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| 22:03.20 | Bifuu | under prereqs |
| 22:03.36 | Alpha_vst | if you cant set a item to a actor i feel sorry for you :P |
| 22:03.36 | Dustin | Oh it said creating your first unit |
| 22:03.39 | Alpha_vst | even i can do that |
| 22:03.46 | Dustin | I didnt know you had to make a unit to attach to an item |
| 22:03.52 | Dustin | that's where I got confused with that |
| 22:04.23 | Alpha_vst | you cant attach a unit to a actor? |
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| 22:04.55 | Dustin | I didnt know how to get an item with a model |
| 22:05.04 | Dustin | But I figured out you make an Item Unit then attach an actor to it |
| 22:05.06 | HP-X|Arthas | Bifuu: it is confusing :D |
| 22:05.20 | Fatal510 | i need a sweet loading screen for my map |
| 22:05.38 | Bifuu | lies |
| 22:05.44 | HP-X|Arthas | <3 Bifuu |
| 22:06.42 | HP-X|Arthas | what i miss |
| 22:06.52 | HP-X|Arthas | is a header like "Creating the item container" |
| 22:07.26 | HP-X|Arthas | ie, the unit on the map |
| 22:08.16 | HP-X|Arthas | or at least making the creating your first unit standing out a lil |
| 22:09.48 | HotPotatoe | I have a question, gais |
| 22:10.24 | HotPotatoe | This upgrade I have here, will not add me 2 more zerglings to pop out of a cocoon. |
| 22:10.38 | Alpha_vst | why not |
| 22:10.40 | HotPotatoe | when it's researched of course |
| 22:10.59 | HotPotatoe | I did add operators to add two more zerg units to the ability, but it doesn't work |
| 22:11.08 | HotPotatoe | the morph time, and mineral increase does though. |
| 22:11.15 | Alpha_vst | woot its impossible to transfer data items between a map and a mod if the map is using the mod |
| 22:11.37 | Alpha_vst | it crashes the editor |
| 22:11.43 | Alpha_vst | trying to close the map |
| 22:11.45 | HotPotatoe | then tried flipping command card buttons, but requirements take away the vespene/time/mineral display, which I want. |
| 22:11.48 | Alpha_vst | caus eyou cant save |
| 22:12.07 | RodOfNOD | new patch again..... |
| 22:12.08 | HotPotatoe | I'm doomed V_V |
| 22:12.20 | HotPotatoe | #17 or #16? |
| 22:12.23 | Alpha_vst | nope your just doing it wrong and i cant help |
| 22:12.26 | RodOfNOD | so do we know if the beta is done today? |
| 22:12.29 | RodOfNOD | 16 |
| 22:12.41 | HotPotatoe | yeah, crash fix is all |
| 22:12.50 | RodOfNOD | crash? |
| 22:12.53 | TheLaughingMan | does anyone know what crash? |
| 22:13.05 | RodOfNOD | i had it crash 2 times |
| 22:13.09 | RodOfNOD | not sure what i was doing |
| 22:13.10 | HP-X|Arthas | can anyone link patch notes? |
| 22:13.17 | RodOfNOD | but i was a good worker bee and sent my data |
| 22:13.22 | TheLaughingMan | there are no patch notes |
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| 22:13.30 | HotPotatoe | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170443053&sid=5000 |
| 22:13.37 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 22:13.40 | RodOfNOD | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?sid=5000&topicId=23094049316&rhtml=true |
| 22:13.53 | HotPotatoe | lol. w0ot! |
| 22:13.54 | heysparky | coffee-keyboard crisis dealt with |
| 22:14.16 | TheLaughingMan | RodOfNOD, that is only patch 15 |
| 22:14.24 | HP-X|Arthas | ty |
| 22:14.32 | HP-X|Arthas | slowass internet :p |
| 22:14.37 | TheLaughingMan | There are no patch notes for patch 16 |
| 22:14.51 | RodOfNOD | think im gonna make a new bbq sauce called zerglingwings of liberty |
| 22:14.52 | rrowland | All it fixed was a crash bug |
| 22:15.15 | RodOfNOD | well blame bliz for that |
| 22:16.09 | RodOfNOD | so beta is done today according to latest news |
| 22:16.13 | RodOfNOD | anyone see anything different? |
| 22:16.29 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 22:16.42 | Alpha_vst | it could go down tomorrow morning learn to read |
| 22:17.07 | RodOfNOD | huh? |
| 22:17.17 | RodOfNOD | learn to read? |
| 22:17.49 | Alpha_vst | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170443053&sid=5000 |
| 22:17.55 | Alpha_vst | read the blue posts |
| 22:18.20 | heysparky | alpha, you need your poopy diaper changed? :) |
| 22:19.39 | Alpha_vst | maybe will you change me? |
| 22:19.56 | heysparky | hells no |
| 22:20.39 | HP-X|Arthas | http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6522/mapspam.jpg :D |
| 22:20.54 | RodOfNOD | and? |
| 22:21.17 | AsaPhelps | did anyone see that tutorial to attach actors on the forums? I can't get it to work |
| 22:21.35 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 22:22.22 | exxor_ | FP-X|Arthas btw, I fildelled around with the weapon issue a bit more, and turns out that it's something to do with the unit. I tried to assign the prismatic beam weapon to it, and it wouldn't target enimies propperly either |
| 22:22.30 | Alpha_vst | go to actor hit view raw data then change the unit name |
| 22:22.31 | Alpha_vst | done |
| 22:22.42 | HP-X|Arthas | exxor, what unit |
| 22:22.49 | HP-X|Arthas | also one more thing |
| 22:22.51 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm |
| 22:23.28 | exxor_ | a warpgate |
| 22:23.52 | HP-X|Arthas | there is no transient flag or is it? |
| 22:23.58 | HP-X|Arthas | on the unit itself |
| 22:25.58 | RodOfNOD | anyone know what: Unit - Load model for (Triggering unit) |
| 22:25.58 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.08 | exxor_ | it did not find any (option for) a transiant flag on either the unit or the unit actor |
| 22:26.41 | HP-X|Arthas | RodOfNOD: id guess it is something regarding the loading model for a unit ! |
| 22:26.49 | HP-X|Arthas | something like thor |
| 22:26.54 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 22:27.07 | RodOfNOD | not sure what u mean something like thor |
| 22:27.10 | HP-X|Arthas | ah |
| 22:27.22 | HP-X|Arthas | well, the thor when loaded (i think) has a special model |
| 22:27.27 | HP-X|Arthas | it hangs just beneath the dropship |
| 22:27.49 | HP-X|Arthas | wait |
| 22:27.49 | RodOfNOD | u think it means load as in drop ship? |
| 22:27.51 | HP-X|Arthas | no |
| 22:27.53 | RodOfNOD | i dont think that means that |
| 22:27.59 | HP-X|Arthas | thats cargo, thats load as in data or such :p |
| 22:28.05 | RodOfNOD | right |
| 22:28.07 | HP-X|Arthas | nvm me, its late oer here! |
| 22:28.11 | RodOfNOD | what im looking for is.... |
| 22:28.12 | Xapti | dammmmmmmit....... playing this game is harder than map editing in sc2: http://www.kongregate.com/games/PleasingFungus/manufactoria |
| 22:28.18 | RodOfNOD | a way to change a units model on the fly |
| 22:29.23 | Xapti | catalog would work i think |
| 22:29.31 | Xapti | although there might be other wys |
| 22:29.53 | Xapti | send actor message might also work |
| 22:29.56 | RodOfNOD | catalog how would that help |
| 22:30.12 | Xapti | change field value model for actor |
| 22:30.55 | HP-X|Arthas | arent the catalogues just read during map load :O |
| 22:31.23 | Xapti | theres a trigger that changes catalog value |
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| 22:31.28 | Xapti | not all of them work though |
| 22:31.42 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.55 | Xapti | I wouldn't be suprized if it didn't work. Send actor message sounds a bit more appropriate |
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| 22:34.25 | Xapti | catalog would change the value of all unit's model though |
| 22:34.29 | Xapti | for the player |
| 22:34.57 | Xapti | assuming it works (I kinda doubt it would) |
| 22:35.19 | RodOfNOD | wow |
| 22:35.24 | RodOfNOD | send actor worked |
| 22:35.32 | RodOfNOD | this shit is so much more powerful that i envisioned |
| 22:35.55 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.09 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 22:36.25 | RodOfNOD | only problem is it didnt change the wireframe SOO> goes to look for that actor |
| 22:36.47 | Xapti | you could just use a morph rod |
| 22:36.49 | Alpha_vst | because it only cahnged the model |
| 22:36.56 | RodOfNOD | well heres my idea |
| 22:37.06 | RodOfNOD | i want to have units that the moidel can change depending on the user |
| 22:37.08 | Xapti | but morph is an ability, which makes it kinda bad |
| 22:37.09 | Alpha_vst | you need to morph it |
| 22:37.17 | RodOfNOD | morph dont work for what i want |
| 22:37.27 | Alpha_vst | why not |
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| 22:37.29 | RodOfNOD | cuz morph changes the unit type |
| 22:37.32 | Xapti | yeah sorta thought so |
| 22:37.34 | RodOfNOD | i dont want to change the unit type |
| 22:37.46 | RodOfNOD | i want to have one unit type and morph 255 differnt models onto it |
| 22:37.51 | RodOfNOD | lets say your making a hero deal |
| 22:37.56 | RodOfNOD | why limit the LOOK of the hero |
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| 22:38.38 | RodOfNOD | why not have 1 unit type but 3 models they can pick from |
| 22:38.45 | RodOfNOD | instead of making 3 unit types just make 1 |
| 22:39.21 | casperb | model variations |
| 22:39.27 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 22:39.31 | Alpha_vst | i think they took down publishing :( |
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| 22:39.48 | Xapti | if you want the wireframe changes, I think that's also an actor attribute |
| 22:39.54 | RodOfNOD | cant find it |
| 22:39.59 | RodOfNOD | not under wireframe at least |
| 22:40.01 | Xapti | so probably changeable with actormessage again |
| 22:40.19 | Xapti | maybe it's for unit, I don't know |
| 22:40.29 | Alpha_vst | wireframe is under model |
| 22:40.39 | Alpha_vst | if you give the model a event |
| 22:40.48 | Xapti | he sai he changed the model though |
| 22:40.53 | Alpha_vst | it would be easy |
| 22:40.57 | casperb | define wireframe? wireframe is just a shading view for a mesh so o.o |
| 22:41.09 | exxor_ | HP-X|Arthas, so I just tried a few things to isolate the problem, and it's basicly any unit using the prismatic beam weapon. if you do, you can't target manually a unit to attack, but it will attack itself. |
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| 22:41.15 | Alpha_vst | the wireframe is the icon in the middle ui pannel |
| 22:41.17 | Alpha_vst | of the unit |
| 22:41.36 | RodOfNOD | < what alpha said |
| 22:41.36 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 22:41.40 | casperb | ah the health indication stuff? |
| 22:41.45 | RodOfNOD | near tht yes |
| 22:41.53 | RodOfNOD | and yes |
| 22:41.56 | RodOfNOD | the visual showing of health |
| 22:42.13 | casperb | yeah what i meant |
| 22:44.32 | casperb | meh i call shenanigans on blizzard 's galaxy tech demo from 09 :P |
| 22:45.26 | Alpha_vst | why |
| 22:45.42 | Alpha_vst | cause they have people who built the editor that know how to use it? |
| 22:46.08 | casperb | nah they boasted indoors etc |
| 22:46.33 | Fatal510 | can a point defense drone shoot down a nuke? |
| 22:46.42 | rrowland | Take a guess |
| 22:46.47 | Fatal510 | i think it cant |
| 22:46.48 | Fatal510 | can |
| 22:46.50 | Fatal510 | ** |
| 22:46.54 | Alpha_vst | it can if you want it to |
| 22:46.56 | Xapti | you can do indoors though |
| 22:47.09 | casperb | Not really |
| 22:47.20 | Alpha_vst | considering we dont have the full editor |
| 22:47.26 | Xapti | whats your definition of indoors |
| 22:47.43 | rrowland | Not outdoors |
| 22:47.54 | HP-X|Arthas | exxor_: aight |
| 22:47.56 | Pandepic | is there a keyboard/mouse shortcut to rotate doodads while placing them? |
| 22:48.08 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 22:48.14 | Alpha_vst | select it and hold shift |
| 22:48.17 | Pandepic | =( |
| 22:48.26 | Xapti | visual barriers that contain all 3 dimensions right? |
| 22:48.38 | casperb | Collision in all dimensions |
| 22:48.40 | Xapti | right now you can do visual barriers for 3 dimensions |
| 22:48.43 | Alpha_vst | i keep getting lost connection to gateway when uploading a map |
| 22:48.45 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 22:48.46 | Pandepic | select it and hold shift? |
| 22:48.49 | Xapti | the only problem is collision for 3rd dimension |
| 22:48.57 | casperb | Not true, you can either walk on the floor or the root |
| 22:49.02 | casperb | roof * |
| 22:49.05 | casperb | not both ;) |
| 22:49.09 | Xapti | but indoors/outdoors has nothign to do with collision in the 3rd dimension |
| 22:49.12 | Alpha_vst | not true |
| 22:49.39 | Alpha_vst | is map publishing down? |
| 22:49.41 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 22:49.45 | Pandepic | selecting and holding shift doesn't seem to let me rotate >> |
| 22:49.46 | Alpha_vst | i wanted to do one last test |
| 22:49.48 | RodOfNOD | Padepic well u can hold down the * key to rotate 90 degrees and u have 2 other things |
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| 22:49.59 | HP-X|Arthas | exxor_: what happens if you remove "Can Retarget while channeling" |
| 22:50.09 | Xapti | pandepic, you need to have your cursor off of the thing you want to rotate |
| 22:50.11 | HP-X|Arthas | or |
| 22:50.13 | HP-X|Arthas | rather |
| 22:50.27 | HP-X|Arthas | under ooptions, set "Only fire at attack target" |
| 22:50.29 | RodOfNOD | lol yes |
| 22:50.31 | Pandepic | oh I see, cntrl and drag |
| 22:50.35 | RodOfNOD | shift off the dood |
| 22:50.36 | RodOfNOD | works great |
| 22:50.41 | Pandepic | it's cntrl for me, not shift |
| 22:50.43 | RodOfNOD | contro; |
| 22:50.44 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 22:50.47 | RodOfNOD | stupid new kb |
| 22:50.50 | casperb | Has everything to do with collision, a building without a roof is not interior |
| 22:50.55 | casperb | :P |
| 22:51.09 | Fatal510 | what is an icon that would represent a bouncing attack? |
| 22:51.16 | RodOfNOD | any way to force GE to keep all windows open instead of auto minimizing? |
| 22:51.23 | Xapti | casperb that's more an issue of dimensions though |
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| 22:51.27 | RodOfNOD | make one fatal |
| 22:51.36 | Xapti | the game has poor 3D support |
| 22:51.39 | Alpha_vst | it doesnt minimize for me |
| 22:51.41 | Pandepic | but alpha, I can't rotate it if I can't afford to buy 3ds max! |
| 22:51.44 | Xapti | can't say things aren't indoors though |
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| 22:51.56 | Xapti | it's like saying doom and doom 2 or wlfenstien 3d weren't indoors |
| 22:51.56 | RodOfNOD | when i run the game and come back all windows are minimized but im on windows 7.... |
| 22:52.25 | RodOfNOD | what do u want to rotqate pandepic? |
| 22:52.27 | casperb | More like saying it wasn't 3d |
| 22:52.47 | Pandepic | was a joke Rod, related to some guy before =P |
| 22:52.53 | RodOfNOD | ah |
| 22:52.54 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 22:53.10 | Alpha_vst | CAN ANYONE PUBLISH? |
| 22:53.17 | Pandepic | I can't |
| 22:53.30 | Alpha_vst | I think they took down publishing :( |
| 22:54.08 | exxor_ | HP-X|Arthas, sounded promising, but no luck :| |
| 22:55.11 | Vindicator | heya RodOfNOD - i've been wondering how to keep the editor from minimizing everything as well, for weeks, and still have no clue =/ |
| 22:55.22 | Alpha_vst | it does |
| 22:55.23 | Alpha_vst | not |
| 22:55.30 | Alpha_vst | minimize |
| 22:55.59 | Fatal510 | how do i make a damage effect do more damage if the target is affected by a behavior |
| 22:56.06 | Pandepic | so alpha |
| 22:56.07 | Pandepic | I lied |
| 22:56.09 | Pandepic | I can publish |
| 22:56.10 | Alpha_vst | im kidding i just always keep my window open |
| 22:56.13 | Fatal510 | i want this behavior to only affect this 1 damage effect |
| 22:56.17 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 22:56.59 | AsaPhelps | how do you remove texture on a unit in the previewer |
| 22:57.24 | RodOfNOD | grr i hate that i cant hit CONTROL q to quit the game |
| 22:57.45 | Alpha_vst | I KNOW RIGHT |
| 22:57.56 | Alpha_vst | oh wow |
| 22:57.57 | AsaPhelps | help me alpha! I helped you |
| 22:58.22 | Alpha_vst | i dont think you can |
| 22:58.28 | Pandepic | you know, dual monitor is really great for using the editor |
| 22:58.33 | Pandepic | but so annoying when playing the game |
| 22:58.54 | AsaPhelps | what are you up to pan |
| 22:58.58 | Pandepic | I wish they would support it properly without having to use windowed mode |
| 22:59.01 | AsaPhelps | I have a scheme because I'm a little bored |
| 22:59.03 | Alpha_vst | something in my map is very broken :( |
| 22:59.08 | Pandepic | a scheme? |
| 22:59.24 | HP-X|Arthas | exxor_: what if you go to stats and set minimum scanrange to 0 while keeping the range of 6 |
| 22:59.35 | Pandepic | alpha, you can send me your map if you want me to look at those triggers |
| 22:59.44 | HP-X|Arthas | might make the weapon not fire at all but hey :p |
| 23:00.22 | Pandepic | asa: with a dual monitor, while playing the game it randomly loses mouse focus |
| 23:00.31 | Pandepic | so my mouse goes to my other monitor when I try to scroll the game |
| 23:00.50 | Alpha_vst | its not my triggers that are broken really |
| 23:00.52 | Pandepic | have to minimise the game to fix it which lags me out of the game lol |
| 23:01.01 | Alpha_vst | but something in my map |
| 23:01.06 | Pandepic | I thought it was your triggers that were broken =P |
| 23:01.15 | Alpha_vst | cause my game room is fucked up |
| 23:01.19 | Pandepic | oh |
| 23:01.22 | Alpha_vst | and i cant upload my map if i shwo the minimap |
| 23:01.28 | Pandepic | weird |
| 23:01.43 | Pandepic | so you fixed those triggers? =D |
| 23:01.48 | Alpha_vst | anyone wanna play? |
| 23:01.52 | Alpha_vst | i fixed soem things |
| 23:01.54 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 23:01.55 | Fatal510 | man balancing is hard... |
| 23:01.59 | Alpha_vst | FUCK YEAH |
| 23:02.02 | Pandepic | balancing is the hardest part of map making |
| 23:02.03 | Pandepic | by far |
| 23:02.06 | Alpha_vst | im working on balance |
| 23:02.14 | HP-X|Arthas | also, make sure you have advanced values up |
| 23:02.40 | Pandepic | alpha, I'm thinking of for an extra map in my orpg |
| 23:02.49 | Pandepic | one where everything scales for the levels of the loaded heros |
| 23:03.05 | Pandepic | does that seem dumb? |
| 23:03.07 | Alpha_vst | i was thinking about that for soemthing at one point |
| 23:03.09 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 23:03.29 | Pandepic | would be easier if UnitSetPropertyFixed could change weapon properties |
| 23:03.30 | Alpha_vst | who wants to play paper zombies with out all the etxtures 0.o |
| 23:03.37 | Pandepic | I'll play in a second |
| 23:03.54 | Pandepic | trying to work out if there are triggers to edit properties of weapons/effects |
| 23:03.56 | Pandepic | instead of just the unit |
| 23:04.25 | Alpha_vst | you can give and take weapons from units |
| 23:04.25 | Alpha_vst | with triggers |
| 23:04.26 | Pandepic | but I just want to do things |
| 23:04.26 | Pandepic | like change the attack speed |
| 23:04.28 | Pandepic | not the entire weapon |
| 23:04.48 | Pandepic | else I'll have to make -so many weapons- =( |
| 23:05.18 | Pandepic | maybe I'll do it through upgrades or something |
| 23:05.33 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:05.35 | Pandepic | that sounds easier |
| 23:05.39 | Alpha_vst | you can give behaviours |
| 23:05.45 | Alpha_vst | and take them away yeah |
| 23:05.55 | Pandepic | it's just for like |
| 23:06.03 | Pandepic | setting the weapon properties based on the hero level |
| 23:06.11 | Pandepic | so I guess I'll make an upgrade and set the upgrade level |
| 23:06.20 | Pandepic | to make them do more damage etc. |
| 23:06.51 | Pandepic | since upgrades are already pretty much hidden and nobody will notice |
| 23:07.16 | Fatal510 | i guess the numbers can always be changed later... so ill just keep making towers no matter how overpowered they may seem |
| 23:07.37 | Beider | finally! My new shop UI is pretty much done, woo |
| 23:07.45 | Beider | took me the best part of two-three days |
| 23:07.53 | RodOfNOD | got any picks? |
| 23:07.54 | RodOfNOD | pics? |
| 23:08.07 | RodOfNOD | anyone know what this does: Actor - Send actor message "SetShowStatusBar 0 Shields" to main actor of unit High Templar [19.79, 13.32] |
| 23:08.07 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.43 | Pandepic | do you have all the basic tower types fatal? |
| 23:09.40 | Pandepic | I think the main ones people have come to expect in TDs are like splash, slow, fast single attack, chain lightning, air, armor debuff |
| 23:09.52 | Pandepic | at least people from wc3 TDs |
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| 23:10.33 | HotPotatoe | make a tele tower, send units back at the beginning w00t |
| 23:10.37 | Pandepic | lol |
| 23:10.41 | Fatal510 | i got a tower with a bouncing attack |
| 23:10.46 | Pandepic | I think the wc3 line TD had that tower |
| 23:10.47 | Fatal510 | my fire tower is sort of splash |
| 23:10.54 | Pandepic | to teleport units |
| 23:10.58 | Beider | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1586398/ShopListView.JPG |
| 23:11.03 | Cloudwolf | >.> soooo does the beta end after today or was it supposed to close today cus well i can still login :D |
| 23:11.03 | Fatal510 | because it does more damage the more units that are near eachother on fire |
| 23:11.06 | Beider | It has two views for the categories / items on the left |
| 23:11.10 | Beider | list view and icon view |
| 23:11.12 | Fatal510 | and i have 2 electic towers |
| 23:11.17 | Pandepic | Beider |
| 23:11.18 | Beider | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1586398/ShopIconView.JPG |
| 23:11.18 | Fatal510 | that are fast speed |
| 23:11.21 | Pandepic | that is rather sexy |
| 23:11.34 | Pandepic | good job sir =) |
| 23:11.57 | Beider | also the items / categories are loaded from variables. So I have 2 shops, 1 inventory management and 1 custom thing that uses the same UI |
| 23:12.10 | Beider | it's a pretty sweet setup :P |
| 23:12.11 | Pandepic | I really like the shop layout |
| 23:12.17 | RodOfNOD | looks good beider |
| 23:12.39 | Pandepic | it's almost the way I'm going to build mine |
| 23:12.46 | Pandepic | except a little different layout wise |
| 23:12.51 | Beider | Still needs some work, I want to get rid of the double border between each section |
| 23:12.55 | Cloudwolf | any one know if the map editor will still be accessable when the beta closes? |
| 23:12.55 | Beider | only have one border between them |
| 23:13.02 | AsaPhelps | for broordlords, what is the name of the broodlings thats attached to them in the air? |
| 23:13.03 | Beider | Cloudwolf: I would think so |
| 23:13.06 | Pandepic | I assume so cloud |
| 23:13.11 | Pandepic | should be able to use test document still |
| 23:13.20 | Pandepic | since that runs in offline mode |
| 23:13.25 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sublimity (~Sublimity@64-5-77-214.longlines.com) |
| 23:13.26 | Cloudwolf | Sounds good |
| 23:14.00 | AsaPhelps | I think they said it will be cloud |
| 23:14.10 | Pandepic | I don't know how they would stop you from using it lol |
| 23:14.15 | Pandepic | unless they patched it to require login |
| 23:14.19 | Pandepic | which they didn't do today |
| 23:14.32 | Cloudwolf | patch in a code that just stops it from launching? |
| 23:14.32 | RodOfNOD | hmm weird bug? Actor - Send actor message "PortraitCustomize ArchonPortrait Archon" to main actor of unit High Templar [19.79, 13.32] |
| 23:14.33 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.49 | Pandepic | well, if it's still launching after that patch, I'd say it's fine cloud =D |
| 23:15.00 | Pandepic | I wonder if that new patch did anything to the editor |
| 23:15.27 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 23:15.31 | Alpha_vst | just a crash fix |
| 23:15.38 | Pandepic | Beider, you know my favourite part of your shop window |
| 23:15.45 | Pandepic | is using the hellion for a parts trader =D |
| 23:16.05 | Pandepic | lol he so looks like someone that runs a spare parts store |
| 23:17.14 | Atlos | WOOT, my inventory system is complete I'll upload it in a sec if anyone is curious |
| 23:17.15 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:17.27 | Pandepic | I'm curious Atlos |
| 23:17.29 | Atlos | this has been what ive been asking so many damn questions about lately lol |
| 23:17.36 | Pandepic | (taking notes for my rpg map) |
| 23:17.40 | RodOfNOD | i am also interested |
| 23:17.54 | Alpha_vst | JOIN MY GAME PEOPLE |
| 23:18.18 | Pandepic | lol alpha |
| 23:18.26 | Pandepic | I accepted your invite 1 second before it expired |
| 23:18.34 | Alpha_vst | everyone like 3 more |
| 23:18.37 | Atlos | how do I update my file in my project? |
| 23:18.42 | Atlos | do I just have to upload a new one? |
| 23:18.52 | Pandepic | you have to publish it again it hink |
| 23:18.57 | Pandepic | I think* |
| 23:19.29 | AsaPhelps | whats your map alpha |
| 23:19.42 | Pandepic | it's the impossible die to zombies map |
| 23:19.52 | Pandepic | and then watch all of his debug triggers not work |
| 23:20.11 | Alpha_vst | lol shush |
| 23:20.15 | RodOfNOD | lol roaring: Actor - Attach Mutalisk to Head on High Templar [19.79, 13.32] |
| 23:20.15 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.18 | Alpha_vst | its more balanced now |
| 23:20.29 | Pandepic | =D |
| 23:20.34 | Atlos | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zombie-outbreak/files/ |
| 23:20.35 | Alpha_vst | attack of the paper zombies... |
| 23:20.40 | Atlos | download the latest one if you want to try it out |
| 23:20.58 | Pandepic | so many zombie maps |
| 23:21.04 | AsaPhelps | is there a way to preview attached units in the previewer? |
| 23:21.14 | Atlos | really? I haven't seen many lol this is an rpg not like a raccoon city though |
| 23:21.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster LiliannaH (~Lilianna@adsl-75-15-140-76.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:21.24 | Atlos | there's a ghost near the center of the map that you control |
| 23:21.29 | AsaPhelps | nm |
| 23:22.16 | Pandepic | asa come and play |
| 23:22.26 | Pandepic | you as well atlos =D |
| 23:22.32 | Atlos | what map? |
| 23:22.38 | Pandepic | alpha's zombie map |
| 23:22.52 | Atlos | sure |
| 23:22.57 | Atlos | how do I play multiplayer maps now though? |
| 23:22.59 | RodOfNOD | k now what do i do atlos |
| 23:23.00 | Alpha_vst | i just started it |
| 23:23.11 | Alpha_vst | server is still up |
| 23:23.23 | Atlos | RodOfNOD press I to open your inventory, stand near health packs and press f to pick them up |
| 23:24.40 | RodOfNOD | doesnt work |
| 23:24.45 | RodOfNOD | i works |
| 23:24.46 | RodOfNOD | but not f |
| 23:25.10 | RodOfNOD | why didnt u make it a command off your units command palette? |
| 23:25.30 | Atlos | one sec |
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| 23:26.08 | RodOfNOD | u should just make it so when the unit targets it it picks it up :P |
| 23:26.31 | rrowland | Anyone here ever work for a game company? Preferrably a position of recruitment? |
| 23:26.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Vulfe (~45864bd0@gateway/web/freenode/x-nmxsbzgptvlmtnek) |
| 23:26.44 | Atlos | Rod what you mean the F doesn't work? |
| 23:26.52 | Atlos | was on the phone sorry :P |
| 23:26.53 | RodOfNOD | i hit i then i hit f |
| 23:26.55 | RodOfNOD | nothing happens |
| 23:27.01 | Vulfe | Greetings important people |
| 23:27.01 | Atlos | F only works if you have an item selected |
| 23:27.07 | Atlos | to pickup an item you can't have the inventory up |
| 23:27.34 | RodOfNOD | <Atlos> RodOfNOD press I to open your inventory, stand near health packs and press f to pick them up |
| 23:27.36 | RodOfNOD | ^^ |
| 23:27.41 | Atlos | oh sorry I worded that wrong :P |
| 23:27.50 | Vulfe | Pwned |
| 23:28.03 | RodOfNOD | why dont u make it so u click on target the item and u pick it up? |
| 23:28.10 | Atlos | press F to pickup items and then I to open your inventory and use them |
| 23:28.16 | Vulfe | not retro enough |
| 23:28.18 | Atlos | I could prob do that down the line |
| 23:28.22 | RodOfNOD | u HAVE to try this: Actor - Attach Mutalisk to Head on High Templar [19.79, 13.32] |
| 23:28.28 | Vulfe | lol |
| 23:28.29 | RodOfNOD | its hilarious and unexplained to me |
| 23:28.31 | Atlos | lmao |
| 23:28.38 | RodOfNOD | just do it |
| 23:28.44 | RodOfNOD | not sure why its doing what it does |
| 23:28.53 | Vulfe | I made an OverThor in the editor |
| 23:28.54 | exxor_ | just figured out that when you use the void ray weapon on another structure, you have to set the "movement allowed" option of the weapon to "none" in order to get manual targeting to work |
| 23:28.56 | Atlos | Pandepic are you still playing that game? |
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| 23:28.59 | Atlos | I had to patch |
| 23:29.02 | Vulfe | Overlord carrying Thor like a badass |
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| 23:30.03 | Fatal510 | Sixen |
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| 23:32.11 | RodOfNOD | omg |
| 23:32.16 | RodOfNOD | u guys have to do this shit its hilarious |
| 23:32.17 | Vulfe_ | Quiet in here |
| 23:32.18 | Vulfe_ | too quiet |
| 23:32.24 | Vulfe_ | What happens? |
| 23:32.26 | Vulfe_ | lol |
| 23:32.38 | RodOfNOD | pick attach actor not model: Actor - Attach Mutalisk to Head on High Templar [19.79, 13.32] |
| 23:32.53 | RodOfNOD | and once u do it ull see the muta (s) and then move the u nit and then stop the unit |
| 23:32.54 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:32.59 | RodOfNOD | its like a jack in the box |
| 23:33.35 | Vulfe_ | I'll have to try it out |
| 23:33.56 | Vulfe_ | On a sidenote, does anyone know why the high templar's cape is a bone, while the dark templar's cape is not? |
| 23:34.08 | RodOfNOD | laziness |
| 23:34.17 | Vulfe_ | probably |
| 23:34.24 | Vulfe_ | Have you seen the hydralisk dances |
| 23:34.26 | Vulfe_ | ingame? |
| 23:34.27 | Vulfe_ | hilarious |
| 23:34.39 | Alpha_vst | oh god |
| 23:35.17 | Vulfe | My OverThor is so epic |
| 23:35.25 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:35.26 | Vulfe | too much work for the result, though |
| 23:35.27 | Fatal510 | http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/04/lol-the-reoccurring-prop-newspaper/ |
| 23:35.45 | Malachi | why is it that when I open some maps, every trigger and action has no name yet I can see the commands inside them |
| 23:35.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-169-26-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 23:36.36 | RodOfNOD | cuz the maker was lazy? |
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| 23:36.44 | Malachi | I... don't think so... |
| 23:37.07 | Vulfe | I downloaded a map like that |
| 23:37.13 | Vulfe | maybe it's some sort of weaksauce protection? |
| 23:37.14 | Vulfe | lol |
| 23:37.21 | HP-X|Arthas | what yu mean |
| 23:37.24 | Malachi | the guy distributed the map so that people could learn |
| 23:37.30 | Malachi | so I dunno why he'd try to protect it |
| 23:37.36 | Vulfe | I know right |
| 23:37.36 | Malachi | and if this is blizzard protection, it kinda sucks |
| 23:37.37 | HP-X|Arthas | if you remove triggerdata or whatever ts called, the script is in there but not the gui triggers |
| 23:37.38 | Atlos | lmao at the prop paper |
| 23:37.40 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 23:37.44 | Vulfe | It's not bliz protection |
| 23:37.46 | Malachi | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/3/384/game_menu.SC2Map |
| 23:37.50 | Malachi | that is what I am talking about |
| 23:37.54 | HP-X|Arthas | i assume blizz protection removes trigger file and sc2components |
| 23:38.01 | Vulfe | I downloaded that map |
| 23:38.03 | HP-X|Arthas | nothing else |
| 23:38.11 | Vulfe | If you want to know anything about dialogs, you can ask me instead |
| 23:38.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ignorance (~daviddavi@ip98-164-199-113.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 23:38.17 | Vulfe | since that tutorial basically covers nothing |
| 23:38.21 | Vulfe | "tutorial" |
| 23:38.22 | Malachi | It isn't a tutorial? |
| 23:38.25 | Malachi | It's an example |
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| 23:38.28 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:38.31 | Vulfe | if it's what I think it is |
| 23:38.34 | Vulfe | ah |
| 23:38.38 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 23:38.40 | Malachi | It's the thing with the menu controlled by keys |
| 23:38.42 | Malachi | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/3038-completely-custom-ui-decently-advanced-map-editors/?page=2 |
| 23:38.43 | Vulfe | but it's an example of practically nothing |
| 23:38.50 | Vulfe | unless i'm wrong |
| 23:38.51 | Ignorance | Chocolate rain |
| 23:38.53 | Vulfe | which is very possible |
| 23:38.54 | Vulfe | lol |
| 23:38.54 | Alpha_vst | so my map is pretty awesome |
| 23:39.00 | Ignorance | History quickly crashing through your veins. |
| 23:39.09 | Malachi | can't even test it, though. Says there is a syntax error on a global structure variable in the script. |
| 23:39.10 | Vulfe | Donde |
| 23:39.11 | Vulfe | esta |
| 23:39.15 | Vulfe | la biblioteca |
| 23:39.20 | Vulfe | have you given names to the triggers? |
| 23:39.25 | Malachi | should I? |
| 23:39.28 | Malachi | just random names? |
| 23:39.31 | Vulfe | yes |
| 23:39.35 | Alpha_vst | NO |
| 23:39.40 | Vulfe | otherwise it returns errors |
| 23:39.41 | Vulfe | lol |
| 23:39.42 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 23:39.53 | Vulfe | many triggers with the same reference = one very bad idea |
| 23:39.54 | RodOfNOD | hmm overthor not as impressive as mutalar |
| 23:39.59 | Ignorance | I've decided that people should distribute information if they're going to brag about having it. |
| 23:40.12 | Ignorance | It's one thing to put it in a map, quite another to tell people you have it for no reason. |
| 23:40.20 | Vulfe | overthor is much harder to accomplish than mutalar |
| 23:40.26 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:40.29 | Malachi | still syntaxes |
| 23:40.33 | Vulfe | you actually have to change actors |
| 23:40.36 | Vulfe | idk then, malachi |
| 23:40.39 | Malachi | oh |
| 23:40.40 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.42 | RodOfNOD | done! |
| 23:40.43 | Malachi | I am here under this name |
| 23:40.44 | Malachi | weird |
| 23:40.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Not like it really matters |
| 23:41.04 | Vulfe | not really |
| 23:41.06 | Vulfe | deltoid. |
| 23:41.41 | RodOfNOD | appears i cannot replace the wireframe at all or permanently the portrait on a unit :P |
| 23:41.43 | P_R_Deltoid | I just want to do something like... |
| 23:41.46 | P_R_Deltoid | it was something Beider did |
| 23:41.48 | RodOfNOD | which really sucks |
| 23:41.48 | P_R_Deltoid | With green lines |
| 23:41.51 | xttocs | Does the site sc2mod.com have an IRC chan? |
| 23:41.55 | P_R_Deltoid | but then my harddrive crashed yesterday |
| 23:41.58 | P_R_Deltoid | so I don't have it anymore |
| 23:41.58 | P_R_Deltoid | :'( |
| 23:42.02 | Vulfe | galaxy editor doesn't want to open: awesome. |
| 23:42.05 | RodOfNOD | hey tocks |
| 23:42.22 | xttocs | Hey RodOfNOD |
| 23:42.28 | AsaPhelps | There's an option for a "freeze" death, is there anything that uses that? |
| 23:42.41 | Vulfe | Don't think so |
| 23:42.47 | Vulfe | But you should make a hellion freezethrower |
| 23:42.48 | Vulfe | just saying. |
| 23:42.58 | P_R_Deltoid | do banks have to have anything special in them or just a list of variables? |
| 23:43.12 | Vulfe | idk |
| 23:43.14 | AsaPhelps | freezethrower |
| 23:43.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh, I see a problem |
| 23:43.25 | P_R_Deltoid | I have to name all the variables declared inside it |
| 23:43.28 | Vulfe | if it's just a list of variables, why not use a folder |
| 23:43.32 | Vulfe | : \ |
| 23:43.50 | P_R_Deltoid | ain't my shit, bro |
| 23:43.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Just trying to test |
| 23:43.56 | Vulfe | lol |
| 23:43.56 | Vulfe | ok |
| 23:44.06 | Vulfe | so |
| 23:44.14 | Vulfe | what you're saying, is that it's not your bank |
| 23:44.18 | Vulfe | so you just robbed someone's bank |
| 23:44.20 | Vulfe | not coolk |
| 23:44.27 | Fatal510 | damnt where is OneTwo |
| 23:44.38 | Vulfe | ~seen OneTwo |
| 23:44.52 | purl | onetwo <~ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/x-wqusutynqluekkkq> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 12h 57m 12s ago, saying: 'ttyl'. |
| 23:44.52 | Vulfe | ~seen onetwo |
| 23:44.53 | purl | onetwo <~ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/x-wqusutynqluekkkq> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 12h 57m 13s ago, saying: 'ttyl'. |
| 23:44.53 | Vulfe | dammit |
| 23:44.53 | Fatal510 | ~onetwo |
| 23:45.07 | Fatal510 | 12 hours ago... |
| 23:45.11 | Fatal510 | how much damn sleep does he need |
| 23:45.12 | Vulfe | closer to 13... |
| 23:45.26 | rrowland | he needs |
| 23:45.29 | rrowland | onetwo hours of sleep |
| 23:45.31 | rrowland | obviously |
| 23:45.36 | Fatal510 | he went over |
| 23:45.44 | Vulfe | I wish my bitch -errrr... friend would just finish those icons I asked him to make |
| 23:45.52 | P_R_Deltoid | that wasn't as impressive as I thougt it was gonna be |
| 23:46.05 | Vulfe | welcome to disappointment |
| 23:46.16 | Fatal510 | ~purl |
| 23:46.16 | purl | [purl] a piece of very bad coding. |
| 23:46.17 | P_R_Deltoid | also, the variables are in a bank because "the menu reminds what item you selected when closing it, so you dont start at the first everytime, dont know if you want it like this or not " |
| 23:46.20 | P_R_Deltoid | according to the dude. |
| 23:46.24 | Fatal510 | yes you are |
| 23:47.07 | RodOfNOD | banks in theory are the most powerful thing we have |
| 23:47.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Indeed |
| 23:47.27 | P_R_Deltoid | No more crazy giant codes |
| 23:47.30 | P_R_Deltoid | for ORPGs |
| 23:47.32 | P_R_Deltoid | hopefully |
| 23:47.33 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 23:47.44 | P_R_Deltoid | except I heard they are broken atm |
| 23:47.48 | RodOfNOD | still have to have codes though |
| 23:47.49 | P_R_Deltoid | or at least... stricter than they were |
| 23:47.55 | RodOfNOD | or else people will just hack the file |
| 23:47.57 | P_R_Deltoid | Do you? Isn't it saved to the local computer? |
| 23:47.59 | RodOfNOD | just the code will be inside |
| 23:48.02 | P_R_Deltoid | I wouldn't really mind vOv |
| 23:48.05 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 23:48.10 | RodOfNOD | ie the user doesnt have to remember the code |
| 23:48.14 | P_R_Deltoid | I gotcha |
| 23:48.17 | RodOfNOD | but u still have to write the encryption |
| 23:48.22 | P_R_Deltoid | just have a hashed up save thing |
| 23:48.46 | Pandepic | is the Editor Prefix field used for anything important? |
| 23:48.49 | Vulfe | that's kind of nice |
| 23:48.56 | Vulfe | yes, pandepic |
| 23:48.59 | Vulfe | organization |
| 23:49.08 | Vulfe | but otherwise not really |
| 23:49.09 | Pandepic | so the answer is no then =P |
| 23:49.14 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 23:49.17 | Pandepic | wasn't sure if changing it would break anything |
| 23:49.18 | RodOfNOD | that would be very helpful |
| 23:49.22 | P_R_Deltoid | Hey... organization is key.... |
| 23:49.23 | P_R_Deltoid | >: ( |
| 23:49.26 | Vulfe | lol |
| 23:49.32 | Vulfe | it's only inside the editor |
| 23:49.35 | Vulfe | it doesn't change anything |
| 23:49.35 | RodOfNOD | exactly |
| 23:49.36 | Vulfe | : ) |
| 23:49.46 | Pandepic | well, can't be too careful with these things =D |
| 23:49.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Except when you want to do shit later and are confused as shit |
| 23:50.13 | Pandepic | pfft what's confusing about Marine Copy Copy Copy Copy |
| 23:50.14 | Pandepic | =P |
| 23:50.35 | P_R_Deltoid | Does it use the marine model? |
| 23:50.48 | Pandepic | of course not! |
| 23:50.49 | Pandepic | duh |
| 23:51.17 | P_R_Deltoid | color me surprised. |
| 23:52.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mittsies (Mittsies@66.133.220.142) |
| 23:52.32 | Pandepic | one amazing thing in the editor is the auto backups feature |
| 23:52.53 | Pandepic | also I'm happy that they fixed the stupid bug where it would rename the actor's model fields when you rename the unit |
| 23:53.03 | Pandepic | seems a lot less annoying to make a new unit now |
| 23:53.49 | RodOfNOD | ok this confuses me... i pick a unit say zergling i pick duplicate but now i cant place the unit.. |
| 23:54.20 | P_R_Deltoid | http://static.curseforge.net/thumbman/images/21/279/200x150/Screenshot002.Jpg.-m1.png are all those bars bossbars |
| 23:54.21 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
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| 23:54.29 | RodOfNOD | what am i missing |
| 23:54.33 | P_R_Deltoid | can't place it? |
| 23:54.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Like... it has no model? |
| 23:54.40 | RodOfNOD | in the editor |
| 23:54.41 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 23:54.44 | RodOfNOD | it has no model |
| 23:54.45 | P_R_Deltoid | did you set an actor? |
| 23:54.52 | RodOfNOD | i didnt do anything |
| 23:54.54 | P_R_Deltoid | did you check everything off when you duplicated? |
| 23:54.57 | RodOfNOD | i said duplicate |
| 23:54.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Well there is your problem... |
| 23:55.01 | RodOfNOD | yes but then i tried |
| 23:55.07 | RodOfNOD | i turned ALL on |
| 23:55.08 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, but then a prompt come sup and shows you a bunch of checkboxes |
| 23:55.09 | RodOfNOD | and same deal |
| 23:55.21 | P_R_Deltoid | Hmm, theni t should work, unless you forgot to click actor |
| 23:55.39 | P_R_Deltoid | Actor is basically the model, so you need to make sure it has one. Find your duplicated zergling in the data editor |
| 23:55.45 | P_R_Deltoid | and see if it has something under Actor. |
| 23:56.05 | RodOfNOD | k worked this time |
| 23:56.17 | RodOfNOD | so why do i need new models |
| 23:56.21 | RodOfNOD | new actors |
| 23:56.25 | Pandepic | you don't need new ones |
| 23:56.35 | Pandepic | you can leave it linked to existing ones |
| 23:56.36 | TheLaughingMan | That is a wierd result... |
| 23:56.57 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, but whatever you want it to look like, you have to set that actor |
| 23:57.01 | P_R_Deltoid | if no actor is set, it is nothing |
| 23:57.07 | P_R_Deltoid | and is considered a model-less unit. |
| 23:57.09 | TheLaughingMan | The more times I repeat it takes longer average wise, but if I do it less then it takes less time average wise |
| 23:57.11 | P_R_Deltoid | which has it's uses, I suppose. |
| 23:57.20 | P_R_Deltoid | although they have better ways of making dummies now |
| 23:57.41 | Mittsies | Question: Is anyone here experienced in the data editor but not fond of triggering? |
| 23:58.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Lots of people, I am sure. Most of the maps out now have minimal trigger usage |
| 23:58.28 | Mittsies | Yes well I'm looking to trade with someone. |
| 23:58.46 | Mittsies | Triggers for data. |
| 23:58.53 | Pandepic | lol |
| 23:58.53 | RaydenUni | hah |
| 23:58.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Ooooo |
| 23:58.56 | RaydenUni | sounds easier to just learn it |
| 23:58.58 | Mittsies | No, seriously. |
| 23:58.59 | P_R_Deltoid | what data :| |
| 23:59.03 | RodOfNOD | PR if i dont click on actor then it doesnt make the actor BUT if i click on it it makes new actors and i dont want new ones i want to use existing ones..... |
| 23:59.06 | Mittsies | I can do it just fine; I just hate it. |
| 23:59.08 | Atlos | Pandepic did you already play the game I had to patch |
| 23:59.12 | Atlos | idk if you were playing another |
| 23:59.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Just click the check marks, it'll use that actor. |
| 23:59.21 | P_R_Deltoid | You duplicated it wrong |
| 23:59.24 | Pandepic | yeah but I'm sure alpha will want to play again |
| 23:59.25 | RaydenUni | is the editor still going to be available after the beta ends? |
| 23:59.33 | P_R_Deltoid | Yes |
| 23:59.33 | Mittsies | rayden: yes |
| 23:59.33 | Vulfe | lol |
| 23:59.34 | Atlos | just let me know |
| 23:59.35 | Vulfe | you're funny |
| 23:59.36 | Pandepic | if you click the check marks |
| 23:59.37 | P_R_Deltoid | It already ended didnt it? |
| 23:59.39 | P_R_Deltoid | Like... this morning |
| 23:59.40 | Pandepic | it doesn't sue that actopr |
| 23:59.49 | Pandepic | it makes a copy of the actor |
| 23:59.50 | Mittsies | I'd like someone to make units for a Tower Defense game. In return I will make triggers for them. |
| 23:59.51 | Pandepic | and uses the copy |
| 23:59.59 | Pandepic | if you leave it unchecked it links to the existing actor |
