| 00:00.20 | Pandepic | I think most people just complain about bnet 2.0 |
| 00:00.21 | Stripe | creating ... not greating |
| 00:00.23 | Pandepic | being worse than bnet 1.0 |
| 00:00.30 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen, the Bank thing? |
| 00:00.42 | onetwo | what bank thing |
| 00:00.43 | Sixen | Tam put something before that. |
| 00:00.44 | onetwo | ? |
| 00:01.00 | TheLaughingMan | The return thing? |
| 00:01.12 | onetwo | what bank thing? |
| 00:01.13 | Sixen | Mhmm |
| 00:01.15 | Cloudwolf | hmm this is trange |
| 00:01.17 | Sixen | sec onetwo |
| 00:01.18 | Cloudwolf | *strange |
| 00:01.19 | Sixen | Hey cloud |
| 00:01.24 | onetwo | k |
| 00:01.25 | Fatal5101 | hey onetwo... what part in your advanced TD handles the tower upgrading |
| 00:01.32 | Sixen | OneTwo: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170779967 |
| 00:01.34 | onetwo | let me see |
| 00:01.47 | Cloudwolf | hello sixen this may sound stupid but do i know you? |
| 00:01.57 | Fatal5101 | he is the one you pray to every night |
| 00:02.00 | Sixen | Hum. Are you not CloudWolf from the D3W mod? :P |
| 00:02.13 | Sixen | Or are you Cloudwolf from #wowuidev? |
| 00:02.59 | Cloudwolf | neither i expect |
| 00:03.09 | TheLaughingMan | Ohh |
| 00:03.15 | TheLaughingMan | The science channel has something cool on |
| 00:03.29 | Sixen | Nevermind then! :P |
| 00:03.37 | Cloudwolf | err maybe fr9om wowuidev let me go check fi that chanels open lol |
| 00:03.40 | TheLaughingMan | Apparantly scientists have been able to create synthetic life |
| 00:03.48 | Cloudwolf | ok yeah im the one form wowuidev lol |
| 00:04.19 | Fatal5101 | whats between basic and advanced? |
| 00:04.41 | Cloudwolf | sooooo hmm how big is within .5 of a point? |
| 00:04.42 | Sixen | ;p |
| 00:04.57 | Cloudwolf | i dislike how numbers don't feel as precise compared to wc3 |
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| 00:05.11 | Lyrrad | how is it less precise? |
| 00:05.19 | Cloudwolf | let me rephrase that |
| 00:05.22 | Cloudwolf | im used tolarger numbers |
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| 00:05.58 | Cloudwolf | like range 1000 is like = to range 10 here or something |
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| 00:06.34 | TheLaughingMan | how are they no precise? |
| 00:06.51 | Cloudwolf | Let me rephrase that i'm not familiar with the scale |
| 00:06.54 | onetwo | advanced tower d part 4 about 3 mins in |
| 00:06.55 | onetwo | is upgrading |
| 00:06.57 | onetwo | afk |
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| 00:07.06 | Fatal5101 | awesome |
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| 00:07.21 | Fatal5101 | what would you call a tower between basic and advanced |
| 00:07.30 | TheLaughingMan | Integers are previse |
| 00:07.32 | Lyrrad | moderate |
| 00:07.40 | TheLaughingMan | Reals are precise to 1/ 4065 |
| 00:07.59 | Cloudwolf | fatal intermediate |
| 00:08.16 | Cloudwolf | or moderate hmm |
| 00:08.31 | Cloudwolf | LaughingMan im talkinga bout tower ranges the scale is odd to me |
| 00:08.45 | wOlfLinG | wth! My map just swapped terrain with another map! |
| 00:08.46 | Fatal5101 | so its 1000 range = to 10? |
| 00:08.56 | Cloudwolf | thats just an estimation |
| 00:10.05 | Leech | QUESTION: How do you set a return value = to a variable in the trigger editor? |
| 00:10.29 | Pandepic | what is the hotkey for view playable area again? |
| 00:10.45 | Werepenguin | Ahhh, what's the action to award a unit experience points? can't find it :< |
| 00:11.08 | TheLaughingMan | Leech, make sure the Return Type is what you want and there is a Trigger Action called "Return" |
| 00:11.15 | Leech | i have that |
| 00:11.22 | Leech | but when i call the action |
| 00:11.25 | Leech | i want to store it in a variable |
| 00:11.34 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 00:11.42 | TheLaughingMan | You have to have a function |
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| 00:11.50 | Leech | lets say you want to calculate the x coord of a point |
| 00:11.55 | Leech | or a new x |
| 00:11.57 | TheLaughingMan | Set Variable |
| 00:12.03 | Leech | yea that doesnt work |
| 00:12.10 | TheLaughingMan | Your doing it wrong then |
| 00:12.11 | Leech | cause you cant do Set X = CalculateNewX(params) |
| 00:12.30 | TheLaughingMan | Are you using scripting or UI? |
| 00:12.34 | Leech | UI |
| 00:12.46 | TheLaughingMan | Make sure you have a local variable or a global on your using |
| 00:13.52 | Leech | i have a local variable |
| 00:14.17 | TheLaughingMan | Set Variable, Make sure you select the local variable, and the data part of it you select the function |
| 00:14.35 | TheLaughingMan | If that doesn't work then you broke it |
| 00:15.02 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen, the return thing doesn't work |
| 00:15.24 | Fatal5101 | hmmm |
| 00:17.00 | Sixen | =| |
| 00:17.32 | TheLaughingMan | Well |
| 00:17.36 | TheLaughingMan | I am stumped |
| 00:18.02 | TheLaughingMan | The only thing I need to get my Serialization Project rolling is text |
| 00:20.22 | onetwo | back |
| 00:22.55 | wOlfLinG | :( Camera has gone wierd |
| 00:23.15 | wOlfLinG | When i try to scroll, half the time it bugs and i cant see anything |
| 00:23.33 | onetwo | how big is the command card again |
| 00:23.35 | onetwo | is it 4x4? |
| 00:23.45 | wOlfLinG | 5x5 i think |
| 00:23.46 | TheLaughingMan | 5x4 |
| 00:24.14 | TheLaughingMan | 5x3 |
| 00:24.44 | TheLaughingMan | SC - 3x3 WC3 - 4x3 SC2 - 5x3 |
| 00:25.04 | onetwo | 5x3? |
| 00:25.05 | onetwo | damn |
| 00:25.10 | onetwo | lol the rickroll thing |
| 00:25.15 | onetwo | i know how he did it |
| 00:25.18 | onetwo | you can tell its on the city billboard doodad |
| 00:25.22 | onetwo | he edited the model's texture |
| 00:25.27 | onetwo | then zoomed camera onto it |
| 00:25.38 | TheLaughingMan | Well people are freaking out cause you can't Alt - F4 |
| 00:25.40 | Wihl | Im surprised noone has made a map with just porn yet |
| 00:25.47 | TheLaughingMan | Saying "HAX HAX!" |
| 00:26.32 | onetwo | hAHAH rrowland |
| 00:26.40 | onetwo | itd be so funny if his AI video was just him and a friend playing |
| 00:26.44 | TheLaughingMan | rrowland, didn't even create the map |
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| 00:27.02 | onetwo | nobody believes rrowland's ai could be that good |
| 00:27.15 | Judgment38 | you map makers might be interesting in my thread: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171930907&sid=5000 |
| 00:27.29 | onetwo | oh |
| 00:27.33 | onetwo | we made a giant post already |
| 00:27.40 | onetwo | called "Dont mean to beat a dead, popular horse" |
| 00:27.42 | onetwo | or something like that |
| 00:27.51 | onetwo | but yours is on general forums |
| 00:27.51 | onetwo | i see |
| 00:28.10 | Judgment38 | the more the better IMO, but yea I never saw that one |
| 00:28.23 | Judgment38 | BTW: does it automatically replace old versions with new ones on the custom game list? |
| 00:29.06 | onetwo | i agree with you though |
| 00:29.11 | onetwo | uh no |
| 00:29.16 | onetwo | in your map publishing it does |
| 00:29.18 | onetwo | but not in game list |
| 00:29.31 | onetwo | only solution is to remove your map |
| 00:29.34 | onetwo | then reupload |
| 00:29.37 | onetwo | which kills old version |
| 00:29.40 | onetwo | but then you have nothing popular |
| 00:29.46 | Nuknfuts | how about they fix our lobby & leave game trigger issues ;0 |
| 00:29.52 | Judgment38 | I see |
| 00:30.02 | onetwo | PATCH 15 out? |
| 00:30.04 | onetwo | patch notes are up.. |
| 00:30.04 | Judgment38 | that's a whole different story nukn lol |
| 00:30.06 | Nuknfuts | not holding my breath the patch tonight does shit |
| 00:30.09 | Judgment38 | Yea... siege tanks mega nerfed |
| 00:30.09 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23094049316&postId=251691264421&sid=5000#18 |
| 00:30.11 | Nuknfuts | no its not out yet |
| 00:30.15 | Nuknfuts | that's a uber mega nerf |
| 00:30.31 | Judgment38 | I think they overnerfed mech |
| 00:30.39 | Pandepic | wow lol |
| 00:30.46 | Pandepic | Balance changes: LOLTERRAN |
| 00:30.50 | onetwo | ah patch 15 |
| 00:30.52 | onetwo | isnt out |
| 00:30.55 | onetwo | just notes |
| 00:31.05 | Pandepic | wtf |
| 00:31.08 | Pandepic | why nerf hellions |
| 00:31.19 | onetwo | meh i dont play ladder anymore |
| 00:31.21 | onetwo | and never played terran |
| 00:31.22 | Furyhunter | MASSIVE NERF ALL AROUND |
| 00:31.23 | onetwo | so i dont mind |
| 00:31.24 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 00:31.25 | Judgment38 | Terran Mech complaints |
| 00:31.29 | Pandepic | and now thor is even worse against mutas |
| 00:31.32 | Judgment38 | which IMO aren't as justified as they could be |
| 00:31.54 | onetwo | meh im hoping for some secret editor changes |
| 00:31.54 | Pandepic | stupid people saying thors counter mutas |
| 00:31.58 | onetwo | *prays* |
| 00:32.19 | Furyhunter | uh |
| 00:32.25 | Furyhunter | weren't we complaining about mech not being powerful enough |
| 00:32.27 | Furyhunter | just a month ago |
| 00:32.37 | onetwo | yeah last time i played ladder |
| 00:32.39 | onetwo | eg before edito came out |
| 00:32.40 | Nuknfuts | thors do counter muta |
| 00:32.42 | onetwo | i thought mech was garbage |
| 00:33.03 | Nuknfuts | a pretty damn good combo was Hellion + Thor vs zerg |
| 00:33.07 | onetwo | most difficult thing for me as protoss was MMM |
| 00:33.13 | onetwo | they just attacke moved |
| 00:33.19 | onetwo | ... |
| 00:33.24 | Nuknfuts | that said nerf was pretty lame seeing as how Terran bio is all the rage |
| 00:33.31 | onetwo | that seems true |
| 00:33.32 | Pandepic | thors don't counter muta lol |
| 00:33.34 | Judgment38 | I think they should buff up HSM a little to make up for thor nerf |
| 00:33.38 | Pandepic | unless you get enough thors out |
| 00:33.42 | onetwo | high school musical? |
| 00:33.43 | Pandepic | which is not easy at all |
| 00:33.50 | Judgment38 | to make up for siege nerf* |
| 00:33.54 | Nuknfuts | all you need are 2 to stop mutas |
| 00:34.01 | Pandepic | lol no |
| 00:34.10 | Nuknfuts | ive seen guys hit me right as my 2nd one came out and they cried as their muta ball got wrecked |
| 00:34.17 | Pandepic | they were bad then |
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| 00:34.29 | NeoDeathXp | hey guys |
| 00:34.30 | onetwo | okay then MR SCIENTEST |
| 00:34.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:34.39 | Pandepic | the problem with thor vs muta is that zerg can get a -lot- of mutas out really fast |
| 00:34.46 | Nuknfuts | Thors were pretty damn good against Muta with the splash... |
| 00:34.58 | Pandepic | and you can spread mutas out to avoid splash |
| 00:35.06 | Nuknfuts | and? it still takes forever to kill a muta |
| 00:35.08 | NeoDeathXp | i figured out how to import pretty much anything from a mod file including pictures |
| 00:35.08 | Pandepic | also mutas are actually mobile |
| 00:35.12 | Nuknfuts | and you better have some marines laying around anyways |
| 00:35.46 | Nuknfuts | and its not like those scvs you have cant repair a Thor |
| 00:36.00 | Pandepic | if you want to stop mining |
| 00:36.20 | Nuknfuts | i have honestly never heard someone until now complain about thors vs muta -_- |
| 00:36.26 | Pandepic | I always stop mutas just with a couple of turrets and my marines |
| 00:36.29 | Nuknfuts | after the AA change |
| 00:36.41 | Pandepic | I'm not complaining about it lol |
| 00:36.49 | Pandepic | just saying there was no reason to make thors worse against mutas |
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| 00:37.08 | Pandepic | I think the matchup was already fine |
| 00:37.53 | Nuknfuts | the thing is all it does is nerf its upgrade |
| 00:37.58 | Nuknfuts | most people wont even have an armory + upgrade done before a thor is |
| 00:38.05 | Nuknfuts | and thats usually when the first group of mutas shows up |
| 00:38.14 | Nuknfuts | its a pretty big non issue |
| 00:38.34 | Pandepic | that's what I'm saying, it's a dumb change because there was no reason to change anything |
| 00:38.41 | Pandepic | they could have changed something that actually matters |
| 00:39.07 | Pandepic | like making thors fire nukes >> |
| 00:39.33 | Nuknfuts | they mainly changed it so that thors dont 2 shot unupgraded mutas when they have +3 on weapons upgrade |
| 00:39.44 | Pandepic | lol |
| 00:39.45 | Nuknfuts | which is irrelevanta nyways, since 99% of games never reach +3 weapons vs. unupgraded mutas |
| 00:39.49 | Pandepic | yeah |
| 00:39.52 | Nuknfuts | so its a pretty irrelevant change |
| 00:39.57 | Pandepic | if that happened |
| 00:40.16 | Pandepic | it would be a pretty dumb game anyway |
| 00:40.43 | Judgment38 | So new versions of maps always start out at the bottom of the list? <- confirm? |
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| 00:40.57 | Pandepic | yeah they don't get popularity from the old version |
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| 00:41.37 | Pandepic | hopefully they'll change the system so that new versions just overwrite the old ones in the online list |
| 00:41.39 | Nuknfuts | the siege tank change, otoh, was pretty big |
| 00:41.43 | Nuknfuts | it makes siege tanks less crucial in a TvT match |
| 00:41.55 | Pandepic | at 50 they are still pretty effective |
| 00:41.57 | Nuknfuts | since no longer one shotting marines makes marines actaully useful again |
| 00:42.19 | Pandepic | more than 1 siege tank = marines getting 1 shotted again lol |
| 00:42.25 | AsaPhelps | ~Seen RickA |
| 00:42.26 | purl | ricka is currently on #sc2mapster (15m 25s), last said: 'Yes'. |
| 00:42.32 | RickA | Huh? |
| 00:42.36 | RickA | More banelings? |
| 00:42.41 | onetwo | ~seen RickA |
| 00:42.42 | purl | ricka is currently on #sc2mapster (15m 41s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 6s, last said: 'More banelings?'. |
| 00:43.01 | Pandepic | ~seen onetwo |
| 00:43.02 | purl | onetwo is currently on #sc2mapster (1h 1m 12s). Has said a total of 145 messages. Is idling for 21s, last said: '~seen RickA'. |
| 00:43.08 | xttocs | ~seen Xapti |
| 00:43.08 | purl | xapti is currently on #sc2mapster (4h 47m 41s), last said: 'Dustin's top down fighters game work without lag yet?'. |
| 00:43.09 | xttocs | err |
| 00:43.10 | onetwo | you cant see me |
| 00:43.14 | xttocs | ~seen xttocs |
| 00:43.15 | purl | xttocs is currently on #sc2mapster (2d 9h 59m 54s). Has said a total of 59 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen xttocs'. |
| 00:43.15 | RickA | What's up Asa? |
| 00:43.16 | onetwo | hhaha |
| 00:43.27 | SixTwo | ~seen pnetwo |
| 00:43.28 | purl | i haven't seen 'pnetwo', SixTwo |
| 00:43.29 | xttocs | 2 days, nice |
| 00:43.32 | SixTwo | fail |
| 00:43.33 | Nuknfuts | more than one siege tank is a waste anyways :P |
| 00:43.33 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen TheLaughingMan |
| 00:43.34 | purl | thelaughingman is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 66 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen TheLaughingMan'. |
| 00:43.36 | RickA | ~seen Martul |
| 00:43.37 | purl | martul <~chatzilla@unaffiliated/martul> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 23h 37m 43s ago, saying: 'and still no one'. |
| 00:43.39 | onetwo | i pwntwo |
| 00:43.40 | AsaPhelps | hows that spell going |
| 00:43.43 | Pandepic | you can never have too many siege tanks =D |
| 00:43.52 | AsaPhelps | ~Seen purl |
| 00:43.53 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (16d 15h 14m 31s) #botpark (16d 15h 14m 31s) #linuxfund (16d 15h 14m 31s) #waruidev (16d 15h 14m 31s) #how (16d 15h 14m 31s) #sc2mapster (16d 15h 14m 31s) #edev (16d 15h 14m 31s) #fossfund (16d 15h 14m 31s) #hosernet (16d 15h 14m 31s) #norganna (16d 15h 14m 31s) #ud (16d 15h 14m 31s) ##ducleague (16d 15h 14m 31s) ##kierra ... |
| 00:43.55 | xttocs | ~seen purl |
| 00:43.55 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (16d 15h 14m 33s) #botpark (16d 15h 14m 33s) #linuxfund (16d 15h 14m 33s) #waruidev (16d 15h 14m 33s) #how (16d 15h 14m 33s) #sc2mapster (16d 15h 14m 33s) #edev (16d 15h 14m 33s) #fossfund (16d 15h 14m 33s) #hosernet (16d 15h 14m 33s) #norganna (16d 15h 14m 33s) #ud (16d 15h 14m 33s) ##ducleague (16d 15h 14m 33s) ##kierra ... |
| 00:43.56 | xttocs | damn |
| 00:43.56 | RickA | Well |
| 00:44.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Killmore (~task@dsl-61-161.aei.ca) |
| 00:44.03 | xttocs | ~seen repo |
| 00:44.04 | purl | repo is currently on #waruidev (4h 33m 27s) #sc2mapster (4h 33m 27s) #wowuidev (4h 33m 27s) #arl (4h 33m 27s) #wowace (4h 33m 27s) #curseforge (4h 33m 27s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 31m 4s, last said: '[WoW] 10gnosis: 03elchefe 04v1.60 * r29 : tag as v1.60 release'. |
| 00:44.12 | RickA | All I need to do is create a persistent effect with a really small splash radius |
| 00:44.14 | RickA | and its done |
| 00:44.57 | RickA | Is there a way to center a splash on a unit but have it deal no damage to that unit but everything around it? |
| 00:45.02 | RickA | That would be easiest for me. |
| 00:45.06 | onetwo | i think si |
| 00:45.08 | onetwo | under Area+ |
| 00:45.13 | casperb | Or conditions in GUI is the same as || cond ? |
| 00:45.16 | onetwo | or something small |
| 00:45.17 | onetwo | make it fraction 0 with radius 0.1 |
| 00:45.21 | onetwo | then make it fraction 1 with radius 2 |
| 00:45.24 | onetwo | 2 entries |
| 00:45.25 | onetwo | in area+ |
| 00:45.30 | RickA | k |
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| 00:46.04 | AsaPhelps | you could just make it no hurt self? |
| 00:46.24 | RickA | How do I do that? |
| 00:46.29 | RickA | Remove self from the filter? |
| 00:46.42 | RickA | Last time I tried that the effect never went off, period. |
| 00:47.21 | onetwo | oh |
| 00:47.25 | onetwo | under Area+ |
| 00:47.31 | onetwo | for each one |
| 00:47.31 | onetwo | is there validator |
| 00:47.36 | onetwo | oh nvm |
| 00:47.38 | onetwo | just do what i said before |
| 00:47.39 | onetwo | hope that works |
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| 00:49.53 | mosaicpao | hello everyone! |
| 00:50.02 | onetwo | hi |
| 00:50.40 | mosaicpao | i just saw that Dota map with the rick roll vid.. |
| 00:50.56 | mosaicpao | really good job by the author.. lol |
| 00:51.16 | Stripe | best thing is, when the game is full xD |
| 00:51.22 | AsaPhelps | It depends how your abilty works ricka |
| 00:51.25 | Stripe | and the player start to realize what just happened |
| 00:51.45 | mosaicpao | lol.. |
| 00:52.18 | Pandepic | when the rickroll happened to me |
| 00:52.23 | Pandepic | everyone started singing along to it lol... |
| 00:52.32 | Stripe | you were at a lan? |
| 00:52.54 | mosaicpao | i bet a lot of people are gonna do the same thing with different map names.. |
| 00:53.01 | Pandepic | no |
| 00:53.06 | Pandepic | the people in the game |
| 00:53.09 | Pandepic | in the text chat |
| 00:53.13 | Stripe | ahhh xD |
| 00:53.16 | Stripe | same as I did |
| 00:53.22 | Pandepic | cauthonluck was in the game lool |
| 00:53.26 | Stripe | well I need to say that the song isnt that bad ... |
| 00:53.36 | mosaicpao | LOLZ!!!!... |
| 00:53.51 | Pandepic | I think he's my terran hero =O |
| 00:53.58 | Stripe | well and Im addicted to Hard-Techno xD |
| 00:54.11 | Stripe | CauthonLuck is epic ... but TLO is abetter :) |
| 00:54.21 | Pandepic | TLO is a random player though =P |
| 00:54.24 | onetwo | yeah cauthonluck has too much cauthonluck |
| 00:54.25 | Stripe | well |
| 00:54.26 | mosaicpao | they might make a Dota hero with his name.. |
| 00:54.27 | Pandepic | also his zerg is my favourite race of his |
| 00:54.30 | Stripe | TLO picked Terran |
| 00:54.38 | Pandepic | cauthonluck had only 2 losses on ladder =O |
| 00:54.45 | Stripe | at the Kaspersky Cup |
| 00:54.51 | Stripe | wow |
| 00:54.59 | Pandepic | and like 30 wins |
| 00:55.00 | onetwo | Kaspersky: the most debated name in pronunciation |
| 00:55.19 | Stripe | onetwo: lol xD |
| 00:55.24 | onetwo | casper-sky? |
| 00:55.27 | onetwo | kaspear skee? |
| 00:55.29 | AsaPhelps | whats so hard to pronounce about casper sky |
| 00:55.34 | Pandepic | lol asa |
| 00:55.41 | onetwo | etc. |
| 00:55.43 | AsaPhelps | skee eh |
| 00:55.52 | AsaPhelps | I'd say casper sky |
| 00:55.53 | Stripe | caspaskie |
| 00:55.55 | onetwo | me too |
| 00:56.03 | onetwo | so i dont know |
| 00:56.03 | onetwo | but i heard people say kaspear skee |
| 00:56.27 | heysparky | what;s the name of this rickroll td? |
| 00:56.39 | Stripe | you mean the rickroll map? |
| 00:56.40 | Cloudwolf | not a td |
| 00:56.41 | Cloudwolf | its called dota v1 |
| 00:56.44 | Stripe | its DOTA |
| 00:56.46 | heysparky | ah... dota |
| 00:56.48 | heysparky | that's right |
| 00:56.52 | onetwo | rickroll td would be fun |
| 00:56.59 | Cloudwolf | im glad the dota map is a rickroll |
| 00:57.06 | onetwo | like family guy td, simpsons td, frozenmaul, etc |
| 00:57.06 | Cloudwolf | i will cry when theres dota in sc2 |
| 00:57.07 | onetwo | so many in war 3 |
| 00:57.11 | Stripe | dude plz ... no more rickrolls :D beside that you have to alt+F4 |
| 00:57.35 | onetwo | the thing i never liked about dota is like you HAVE to be play pro and be on the frontline all the tim |
| 00:57.36 | onetwo | time |
| 00:57.37 | onetwo | you cant just have fun |
| 00:57.40 | onetwo | otherwise you get too far behind |
| 00:57.41 | onetwo | game ovr |
| 00:57.42 | onetwo | over |
| 00:57.54 | onetwo | to play* |
| 00:57.59 | Stripe | but isnt it the same as in every game dude? |
| 00:58.04 | onetwo | not really |
| 00:58.09 | AsaPhelps | you aren't allowed to have fun in games |
| 00:58.11 | Stripe | ever chilled 5 mins in a normal sc2 ladder match? |
| 00:58.14 | TheLaughingMan | onetwo, I have fun when I played DotA |
| 00:58.16 | heysparky | jhaha |
| 00:58.17 | Cloudwolf | Dota just takes elitism/ists to another level |
| 00:58.20 | heysparky | that's awesome |
| 00:58.34 | onetwo | like you just sit there |
| 00:58.35 | TheLaughingMan | I did alot of cheap shit to piss people off |
| 00:58.36 | onetwo | attack guys |
| 00:58.37 | onetwo | see aother hero |
| 00:58.38 | onetwo | back off |
| 00:58.39 | onetwo | move forward |
| 00:58.42 | Stripe | well the worst part of dota are the flamer/wannabe pros/ and stuff like this |
| 00:58.45 | onetwo | hit tower, oh wait tower kills too fast |
| 00:58.46 | onetwo | back away |
| 00:58.47 | onetwo | go forward |
| 00:58.50 | onetwo | etc. |
| 00:58.53 | Stripe | YOU FUCKTARD DONT EVEN DENIE !!!! |
| 00:58.56 | Stripe | xD |
| 00:59.07 | onetwo | i have no problem with it or its success, its great for acustom map to reach that height |
| 00:59.13 | onetwo | but the game itself i didnt really care for |
| 00:59.14 | Stripe | thats the style they are talking in dota |
| 00:59.16 | onetwo | but i guess people like it |
| 00:59.20 | TheLaughingMan | onetwo, I go hiking through the forest and snipe people as they go to heal at the fountain |
| 00:59.28 | onetwo | :D |
| 00:59.33 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 00:59.35 | onetwo | but then again ihavent played dota in years |
| 00:59.37 | onetwo | maybe its changed |
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| 00:59.43 | Stripe | well I just bought HoN |
| 00:59.51 | TheLaughingMan | HoN Blah! |
| 00:59.52 | onetwo | i think i have still "Defense of the ancients" its first versions |
| 00:59.54 | onetwo | on war3 |
| 00:59.58 | onetwo | with like shitty war 3 heros |
| 00:59.58 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:00.03 | Stripe | xD |
| 01:00.16 | heysparky | Does anyone know what Rick Astley thinks about rickroll? |
| 01:00.17 | Cloudwolf | IMO if you want to play dota go buy hon |
| 01:00.20 | Pandepic | I remember the guy that made the map DOTA was stolen from lol |
| 01:00.27 | onetwo | yeah |
| 01:00.33 | onetwo | but the new creator |
| 01:00.34 | onetwo | made it big |
| 01:00.35 | onetwo | i guess |
| 01:00.42 | TheLaughingMan | The original DotA guys stopped and left |
| 01:00.48 | TheLaughingMan | They moved on an made LoL |
| 01:00.57 | TheLaughingMan | HoN is a complete rip-off |
| 01:01.01 | Stripe | naaah |
| 01:01.02 | TheLaughingMan | And it's going to burn |
| 01:01.05 | Stripe | the early beta was |
| 01:01.07 | Pandepic | no I mean the map the original creators of DOTA stole their ideas from |
| 01:01.07 | RickA | Being somebody named Rick A, I believe I can speak for Mr. Astley. |
| 01:01.11 | Dustin | HoN is amazing |
| 01:01.14 | Pandepic | back in the old days of wc3 |
| 01:01.15 | Stripe | indeed Dustin |
| 01:01.16 | onetwo | ? |
| 01:01.16 | Dustin | S2 games are badasses |
| 01:01.20 | RickA | He thinks that the 80's has no place in 2010. |
| 01:01.22 | onetwo | AOS? |
| 01:01.33 | heysparky | lol |
| 01:01.39 | Dustin | What they should ahve done is proted their Savage 2 Engine to make a TPS dota |
| 01:01.43 | onetwo | i did find tides of blood more fun |
| 01:01.44 | Dustin | Ported |
| 01:01.45 | onetwo | the heroes were interesting |
| 01:01.53 | Pandepic | savage 2 is a good game |
| 01:01.55 | RickA | No matter what I try the effect keeps hurting the unit its on |
| 01:01.56 | Wihl | HoN is doing fine though |
| 01:02.02 | RickA | Any clues on how to stop it? |
| 01:02.06 | onetwo | nope |
| 01:02.08 | Wihl | they've already sold enough copies to get the development costs back afaik |
| 01:02.12 | heysparky | haha http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/03/rick-astley-kin.html |
| 01:02.15 | onetwo | make the damage very small rickA |
| 01:02.19 | onetwo | then make the fraction for outer radius |
| 01:02.21 | AsaPhelps | can i take a look rick? |
| 01:02.24 | onetwo | be like 100x |
| 01:02.25 | RickA | Sure |
| 01:02.29 | onetwo | instead of 1 |
| 01:02.30 | TheLaughingMan | Except for when Steam rolls out DotA Allstars 2.0 |
| 01:02.31 | onetwo | not sure though |
| 01:02.58 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:03.01 | Wihl | TheLaughingMan - I doubt it will be DotA 2.0, I have a feeling it will be what TF2 was to TFC |
| 01:03.14 | onetwo | oh man tfc |
| 01:03.15 | onetwo | thats great |
| 01:03.17 | onetwo | tf2 is great too |
| 01:03.19 | Dustin | Its gonna be fun Im sure |
| 01:03.24 | onetwo | i payed like 10$ for tf2 |
| 01:03.25 | onetwo | played it for years |
| 01:03.34 | Wihl | fun yeah but it wont be "dota 2.0" |
| 01:03.54 | onetwo | atleast it wont be bnet 2.0 |
| 01:03.55 | Stripe | DoTa 2.0 would suck |
| 01:03.56 | onetwo | ZING |
| 01:03.57 | onetwo | bnet joke of the day |
| 01:04.11 | Stripe | HoN and LoL are good clones thought or at least they pick up the gameplay greatly |
| 01:04.17 | onetwo | thanks guys *heads off stage* |
| 01:04.22 | RickA | Asa, I tried sending the map. Accept. |
| 01:04.24 | Stripe | they should develope something different for sc2 |
| 01:04.31 | TheLaughingMan | Well HoN was a ripoff and LoL actually changed it |
| 01:04.42 | AsaPhelps | hold on I need to add it to my list of acceptable files |
| 01:04.42 | Dustin | ripoff no |
| 01:04.46 | Dustin | Expanded on the idea |
| 01:04.46 | Dustin | yes |
| 01:04.57 | Dustin | LoL took it down on a competitive level made itm roe casual |
| 01:04.57 | onetwo | well when warcraft 3 came out, so many great ideas came like tower Ds and hero stuff like dota etc... i hope we have that level of creativity |
| 01:04.57 | onetwo | in sc2 |
| 01:04.58 | Dustin | And alot more slow |
| 01:04.59 | AsaPhelps | but I don't know how to do that |
| 01:05.05 | Wihl | (as a moderator on the hon forums I must admit im not exactly impartial :p) |
| 01:05.22 | Stripe | :D |
| 01:05.29 | Stripe | revealed :D wihl |
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| 01:05.40 | AsaPhelps | I played HoN and LoL and I liked HoN a lot more |
| 01:05.54 | TheLaughingMan | Well I like DotA |
| 01:06.10 | Stripe | naah its like onetwo already said: LoL , casual fun games... HoN - games full of flames and wanna be pros |
| 01:06.12 | Wihl | What put me off LoL was the microtransactions and the bad client |
| 01:06.27 | TheLaughingMan | Wihl, you don't have to do the microtransactions |
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| 01:06.42 | Stripe | the hero rotation is kinda great in LoL |
| 01:06.51 | TheLaughingMan | The front end of the client is gay |
| 01:06.53 | AsaPhelps | I find that kinda annoying |
| 01:07.09 | TheLaughingMan | HoN however isn't efficient with what they do |
| 01:07.17 | Wihl | TheLaughingMan - Oh its nothing against LoL really, I just puke a little in my mouth whenever i see a multiplayer game with microtransactions |
| 01:07.31 | onetwo | i like how theres tons of iphone apps that are tower defenses... they alll owe their success to warcraft 3's custom mappers |
| 01:07.40 | onetwo | duke wintermaul |
| 01:07.42 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 01:07.49 | TheLaughingMan | My brother plays LoL, unlocked every hero and such and didn't play a cent |
| 01:07.51 | Wihl | onetwo - eh, there were plenty of TDs in SC1 as well |
| 01:07.57 | onetwo | well thats what i mean |
| 01:07.59 | onetwo | custom mappers |
| 01:08.01 | onetwo | sc1 or war3 |
| 01:08.06 | onetwo | but war3's editor was soo much better |
| 01:08.09 | onetwo | way more capable |
| 01:08.10 | Pandepic | HoN is a lot more competitive than LoL |
| 01:08.16 | Wihl | TheLaughingMan - I'd rather pay once and get everything forever |
| 01:08.17 | Stripe | okay thelaughingman: than your brother officially has no life :D |
| 01:08.30 | onetwo | everyone's brother is always some crazy pro |
| 01:08.31 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 01:08.35 | Stripe | xD |
| 01:08.35 | TheLaughingMan | Stripe, nah he is just good at DotA and LoL |
| 01:08.37 | Pandepic | yeah lol |
| 01:08.49 | Stripe | yeah might be ... but it is a teamgame |
| 01:08.50 | Pandepic | HoN has a lot more competitiveness in the core gameplay |
| 01:08.59 | onetwo | i love core gameplay |
| 01:09.17 | Wihl | I keep changing my melee map based on suggestions and I just feel all over the place atm <.< |
| 01:09.18 | TheLaughingMan | Stripe, well he has 3 other roommates that are is teammates |
| 01:09.26 | Pandepic | Wihl |
| 01:09.26 | onetwo | Wihl be careful |
| 01:09.28 | Stripe | okay ... that is epic x.x |
| 01:09.30 | onetwo | Wihl |
| 01:09.32 | Pandepic | get a whiteboard |
| 01:09.35 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:09.38 | Pandepic | solve all your problems |
| 01:09.41 | onetwo | because ive made maps before where everyone has their opinion |
| 01:09.47 | onetwo | and then you end up with some overcomplex weird bs thing |
| 01:09.49 | onetwo | that has no fun in it |
| 01:09.52 | Pandepic | it's called feature creep lol |
| 01:09.54 | Pandepic | and it's really bad |
| 01:10.00 | TheLaughingMan | Anyways |
| 01:10.01 | onetwo | thats why blizzard doesnt listen to forums |
| 01:10.07 | Pandepic | you have to write down a clear idea of what your map will be |
| 01:10.10 | onetwo | unless its serious |
| 01:10.11 | Pandepic | and stick to it |
| 01:10.19 | Pandepic | only apply suggestions that relate to your clear idea |
| 01:10.29 | Stripe | One question aside: can anyone tell me a good model for a ammunition crate ? |
| 01:10.29 | Pandepic | and don't go outside it |
| 01:10.38 | onetwo | in my map i use Crate |
| 01:10.43 | Pandepic | Stripe: zergling |
| 01:10.44 | onetwo | Stripe |
| 01:10.45 | TheLaughingMan | Anyways |
| 01:10.47 | Pandepic | because they are the best at everything |
| 01:10.57 | TheLaughingMan | Anyone want to help me create my Serialization |
| 01:10.58 | Stripe | o.o |
| 01:11.01 | Pandepic | and every unit model should be a zergling |
| 01:11.02 | Pandepic | =D |
| 01:11.10 | Wihl | one question, how can i change the health of destructable rocks? Not sure if its just me being blind |
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| 01:11.21 | Pandepic | I think you could double click them |
| 01:11.27 | Stripe | well but for testing issues im going to create zergling crates xD |
| 01:11.57 | Wihl | double-click only has rotation, size and so on |
| 01:12.05 | RickA | Wow, that's gay. Splash damage applies the highest damage it can to a unit, not the most fitting radius damage. |
| 01:12.19 | Baron | So did anyone find out if it's possible to create armor types like Armored Light Mechanical etc. or can we only change their names in the text editor? |
| 01:12.35 | Deuce | RickA - whatnow? |
| 01:12.54 | RickA | I'm trying to create a splash effect centered on a unit but not affecting it. |
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| 01:13.50 | AsaPhelps | which unit has it Rick? |
| 01:13.50 | Deuce | seems like an exclusion for the target would be possible |
| 01:14.14 | RickA | The zergling |
| 01:14.22 | RickA | The trigger is called cling |
| 01:14.26 | RickA | And the behavior is called cling |
| 01:14.32 | RickA | and the damage effect is called, uh... |
| 01:14.34 | RickA | I forget |
| 01:14.37 | onetwo | cling? |
| 01:14.40 | RickA | That's it! |
| 01:14.43 | Stripe | xD |
| 01:15.09 | Stripe | anyone here is in Hardtechno? |
| 01:15.19 | deathnight114 | hmm? |
| 01:15.23 | deathnight114 | I listen to techno |
| 01:15.27 | AsaPhelps | I don't see a cling button |
| 01:15.30 | deathnight114 | Not much hardstyle though |
| 01:16.24 | Stripe | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luWWUz3DgYE |
| 01:16.26 | heysparky | seriously... why aren't coordinates a datatype? COME ON. :)01 |
| 01:16.44 | RickA | There's no cling button |
| 01:16.50 | RickA | It activates automatically |
| 01:16.51 | Tehwildcard | I only listen to overplayed techno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN2hntZBIUQ |
| 01:17.02 | onetwo | hahaha this techno is hilarious |
| 01:17.05 | RickA | and then proceeds to rape the zergling unless it enters within 3 of the building in the middle |
| 01:17.12 | onetwo | the thing i dont like about techno is the waiting.. and i like hearing voices |
| 01:17.16 | onetwo | but the beats are good |
| 01:17.18 | onetwo | for a few secs.. |
| 01:17.23 | Stripe | :D |
| 01:17.32 | Stripe | well its for mixing issues dude :D |
| 01:17.41 | Stripe | so the DJs have time to fade in and out of a track |
| 01:17.47 | Stripe | Im a DJ myself |
| 01:17.50 | Stripe | :P |
| 01:17.54 | heysparky | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw |
| 01:17.59 | onetwo | whether or not that technical detail needs to happen |
| 01:18.03 | onetwo | i still want to enjoy the song |
| 01:18.04 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:18.19 | Stripe | Daft Punk === epic |
| 01:18.35 | onetwo | yeah so true |
| 01:18.46 | Tehwildcard | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSYxT9GM0fQ |
| 01:18.52 | onetwo | and kanye's use of them...everyone i talked to had no idea |
| 01:18.55 | onetwo | he used daft punk |
| 01:18.57 | onetwo | and how brilliant they were |
| 01:19.01 | onetwo | they attributed it to kanye |
| 01:19.04 | onetwo | kind of sad |
| 01:19.10 | onetwo | but they must have got paid |
| 01:19.21 | Stripe | yeah xD |
| 01:19.42 | Tehwildcard | one more >.> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y |
| 01:19.45 | Stripe | omg darude xD |
| 01:20.08 | onetwo | haha wow memories from the 90's |
| 01:20.15 | onetwo | my childhood |
| 01:20.21 | onetwo | err and 2000's |
| 01:20.42 | Stripe | xD indeed |
| 01:21.05 | onetwo | AHHAHAHAHAHAHHA |
| 01:21.06 | onetwo | hAHAHAH |
| 01:21.16 | onetwo | hAHAHAHAH |
| 01:21.21 | onetwo | europeans love war3 |
| 01:21.25 | onetwo | never knew basshunter made a dota song |
| 01:21.26 | onetwo | thats so funny |
| 01:21.37 | Stripe | he became famous with this track I guess |
| 01:21.39 | onetwo | i liek how theres a hot girl watching him play |
| 01:21.47 | Deuce | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ply-7Dj20Y&feature=related |
| 01:21.48 | Stripe | but all I creates sounds like one and the same |
| 01:21.55 | onetwo | its only a matter of time until gaming is mainstream |
| 01:21.56 | Tehwildcard | What, you guys dont have extremely hot women watch you play? |
| 01:21.58 | onetwo | and movies step aside |
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| 01:22.27 | AsaPhelps | hmm weird rick |
| 01:22.28 | Werepenguin | I would say "gaming" is mainstream |
| 01:22.36 | AsaPhelps | even with ally and player unchecked its still hurting you |
| 01:22.43 | Werepenguin | Not hardcore gaming like 24/7 WoW player but gaming in general |
| 01:23.01 | Tehwildcard | Wait, WoW is "gaming" now? |
| 01:23.03 | onetwo | not really |
| 01:23.05 | Tehwildcard | news to me |
| 01:23.08 | onetwo | for women especially |
| 01:23.09 | Stripe | xD |
| 01:23.13 | onetwo | once the female market is capped |
| 01:23.17 | onetwo | games = win |
| 01:23.30 | onetwo | have to figure out how to market to them |
| 01:23.39 | Werepenguin | Well the Wii did a great job |
| 01:23.42 | onetwo | true |
| 01:23.42 | Tehwildcard | I mean they have cooking games |
| 01:23.43 | onetwo | enough |
| 01:23.44 | Werepenguin | Chicks dig Wii's |
| 01:23.47 | Tehwildcard | I just dont see what else they can add |
| 01:23.56 | onetwo | i mean a game with the depth of WoW but centered for women is something that doesnt exist |
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| 01:24.07 | onetwo | yet in movies a romantic comedy can have 50$ mill budget |
| 01:24.07 | onetwo | etc |
| 01:24.07 | Werepenguin | The Sims |
| 01:24.15 | Tehwildcard | Oh, thats called Aion |
| 01:24.16 | Tehwildcard | onetwo |
| 01:24.17 | Cloudwolf | *cough* chicks love to play with that wii mote and im not just talking about the controler.... |
| 01:24.19 | Stripe | "The CleanUp Simulator" |
| 01:24.31 | Cronos|Gone | did the black hawks win last night? |
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| 01:24.43 | onetwo | my gf, sister, mom, pretty much every girl i know |
| 01:24.44 | Demo | tehwildcard can I see your d3ui map just curious on some things |
| 01:24.45 | onetwo | doesnt play games |
| 01:24.49 | Stripe | What happend when a woman stands in the living room? |
| 01:24.51 | onetwo | except ones ive met online |
| 01:24.54 | onetwo | they jsut dont get it |
| 01:24.55 | Demo | no intent to use it at all |
| 01:24.58 | Judgment38 | I just had a good idea for a new wii product... it's like the wii fit |
| 01:25.01 | Stripe | her chains was too long |
| 01:25.05 | Stripe | -s |
| 01:25.22 | Judgment38 | for women |
| 01:25.31 | TheLaughingMan | Grr |
| 01:25.39 | Werepenguin | But it's true though, a girl that plays online games either plays because her bf plays or because she's ugly. |
| 01:25.51 | onetwo | theres exceptions |
| 01:25.55 | Judgment38 | or her ex-bf |
| 01:25.57 | Werepenguin | yeah, like 1/300 |
| 01:26.11 | onetwo | well its because as kids we were marketed to play videogames |
| 01:26.14 | onetwo | whereas girls werent |
| 01:26.17 | onetwo | or they werent interested |
| 01:26.19 | onetwo | in the same things |
| 01:26.22 | onetwo | just like we dont like barbie as a kid |
| 01:26.24 | onetwo | or most of us... |
| 01:26.34 | onetwo | so growing up with it, its natural... |
| 01:26.35 | Werepenguin | I liked turtles |
| 01:26.37 | Werepenguin | when I was little |
| 01:26.38 | onetwo | but for them theyd rather not break habit |
| 01:26.39 | Demo | tehwildcard can you do that for me or do you not want to release it? |
| 01:26.41 | onetwo | and change to play games |
| 01:27.05 | onetwo | but like i think of all the times in war3, in WoW... the entire communities and worlds that so many people are unaware of |
| 01:27.07 | onetwo | that are going on |
| 01:27.10 | onetwo | in our lives |
| 01:27.29 | heysparky | Daft Hands still kills all the dance versions... if only because the guy does all the stuttering modulations. just fucking cool |
| 01:27.36 | onetwo | haha yeah |
| 01:27.36 | heysparky | less sloppy |
| 01:28.05 | heysparky | though he does goof a bit |
| 01:28.36 | Tehwildcard | I sent you a PM demo |
| 01:28.49 | Demo | I got it thanks :) |
| 01:29.22 | Deuce | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ply-7Dj20Y&feature=related |
| 01:29.24 | Deuce | rebuttal |
| 01:29.45 | onetwo | lol why do viral videos like this |
| 01:29.49 | onetwo | never have good recording cameras |
| 01:29.51 | onetwo | theyre not that expensive |
| 01:29.54 | onetwo | couple hundred |
| 01:30.08 | heysparky | Deuce, scroll up |
| 01:30.10 | onetwo | aka i want 720p for this |
| 01:30.11 | onetwo | hahaha |
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| 01:30.15 | heysparky | Daft Hands still kills |
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| 01:30.42 | Deuce | i refuse to scroll up |
| 01:30.52 | picklefish | what is the newe hotness in sc2 maps today? |
| 01:31.01 | heysparky | dota v1 |
| 01:31.08 | heysparky | hands down |
| 01:31.11 | Deuce | my next project is a multitasking trainer |
| 01:31.21 | Stripe | where can I find the icon for an actor or unit? or how can I change it |
| 01:31.30 | onetwo | yeah i like dota v1 but its a bit too unbalanced for zerg side |
| 01:31.35 | Tehwildcard | The day after I say someone should make a joke map named dota... one comes out... who made it? |
| 01:31.36 | onetwo | you guys should try it |
| 01:31.39 | onetwo | and tell me what you think |
| 01:31.46 | heysparky | I was toss |
| 01:31.52 | heysparky | pretty lost though |
| 01:32.01 | heysparky | the interface is pretty good,b utneeds work |
| 01:32.23 | TheLaughingMan | I can't get the AutoCompletion working for Notepad++ |
| 01:32.45 | onetwo | ah |
| 01:32.49 | Tehwildcard | Anyone going to try for blizzcon tickets on sat? |
| 01:32.58 | Odonen | anyone else having any problems publishing? |
| 01:33.16 | Deuce | when is blizzcon |
| 01:33.16 | Tehwildcard | I was a little over 100 when they sold out -.- |
| 01:33.20 | Tehwildcard | oct 22 23 |
| 01:33.25 | Stripe | where can I find the icon for an actor or unit? or how can I change it *push* |
| 01:33.26 | Deuce | SC2 will be out then |
| 01:33.27 | Odonen | cause im getting the error 'cannot connect to blizzard gateway' |
| 01:33.31 | Deuce | why would i want to go to blizzcon :P |
| 01:33.40 | onetwo | d3 demo |
| 01:33.44 | Tehwildcard | ^ |
| 01:33.50 | onetwo | Stripe |
| 01:33.51 | onetwo | Unit ico |
| 01:33.53 | onetwo | icon |
| 01:33.55 | Deuce | diablo is lame |
| 01:33.59 | onetwo | in the actor |
| 01:34.00 | Tehwildcard | O.o |
| 01:34.01 | Demo | I need to change my name on here |
| 01:34.04 | onetwo | yeah it is |
| 01:34.06 | Stripe | thx |
| 01:34.06 | onetwo | diablo 3 isnt though |
| 01:34.08 | Demo | tired of people saying my name unintentionally |
| 01:34.17 | Tehwildcard | lol |
| 01:34.21 | onetwo | lets try that new map Demo |
| 01:34.23 | Deuce | clickclickclickclick |
| 01:34.29 | onetwo | whats that Demo called again? |
| 01:34.35 | Demo | FFUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 01:34.35 | onetwo | RickA |
| 01:34.38 | Tehwildcard | Anyone want a quick demo of the map Im working on? |
| 01:34.39 | RickA | ? |
| 01:34.45 | onetwo | lol your name was Martul? |
| 01:34.46 | Stripe | when does d3 demo comes out? |
| 01:34.48 | Deuce | tomorrow I will demo my multitasking trainer |
| 01:34.50 | onetwo | at blizzcon |
| 01:34.53 | RickA | I disliked RickAx |
| 01:34.55 | Tehwildcard | I think the demo will be at blizzcon |
| 01:34.59 | Stripe | xD |
| 01:35.00 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:35.02 | RickA | But I liked Martul |
| 01:35.16 | Stripe | Demo_litionman |
| 01:35.22 | Deuce | kinda like some people liked GWB |
| 01:35.22 | RickA | But I have serious questions and people wouldn't take Martul seriously. |
| 01:35.27 | Deuce | *badumTISH* |
| 01:36.32 | onetwo | anyone trying that new d3 Demo_ |
| 01:36.36 | onetwo | oops meant to type Demo_ |
| 01:36.41 | onetwo | :D |
| 01:36.42 | onetwo | oops Demo* |
| 01:36.51 | Triceron | HAY GUYZ |
| 01:36.52 | Demo_ | BEEP |
| 01:37.19 | Deuce | BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 01:37.33 | Cronos|Gone | r |
| 01:37.42 | Cronos|Gone | ^^ fixed the end for you:) |
| 01:37.49 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 01:37.53 | Deuce | beer is inefficient |
| 01:37.54 | Cloudwolf | your name is a lie! |
| 01:38.02 | Deuce | too much liquid for so little alcohol |
| 01:38.07 | Cronos|Gone | oh lol it is |
| 01:38.20 | Triceron | I need answers for questions that I'm having need of solvation |
| 01:38.36 | Deuce | Triceron - have you tried Jesus? |
| 01:38.48 | Deuce | he's good with solvation I hear |
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| 01:39.18 | Triceron | if I throw some stuff into a map, is there a way to lock the map? |
| 01:39.29 | Triceron | like custom textures |
| 01:40.02 | Tehwildcard | Not if you want to host it online |
| 01:40.06 | Triceron | to prevent reverse entineering |
| 01:40.06 | Tehwildcard | unless they've fixed it* |
| 01:40.08 | Triceron | engineering |
| 01:40.24 | Triceron | I just don't want people taking out the custom stuff I put in |
| 01:40.55 | Tehwildcard | I would wait until they finish the publishing system then |
| 01:41.25 | Triceron | so right now, anything you put into a map can be re-exported back into raw files? |
| 01:41.28 | Leech | publishing still not working eh? |
| 01:41.50 | Triceron | like if I put a .tga texture into a map, someone else can open it and take it out? |
| 01:42.09 | onetwo | yes |
| 01:42.22 | Vulfe | Does the Attach Dialog Item to Dialog Item action work properly? |
| 01:42.27 | onetwo | as a mapper i think you just have to accept it |
| 01:42.32 | onetwo | no money for your work and people can steal anything |
| 01:42.34 | onetwo | :D |
| 01:43.25 | Triceron | that's the thing, I'm not a mapper |
| 01:43.25 | Vulfe | Yay |
| 01:43.28 | Vulfe | Mapping is fantastic |
| 01:43.29 | Triceron | I'm a modder. |
| 01:43.43 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:43.45 | onetwo | well i cant help any further |
| 01:43.46 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:43.48 | Triceron | I only make custom content |
| 01:43.51 | Tehwildcard | I think neodeath made a tutorial to add images to mods |
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| 01:43.54 | Tehwildcard | or something like that |
| 01:43.56 | Tehwildcard | earlier today |
| 01:44.20 | Triceron | I don't need help adding stuff. I need to know if there's protection against someone reverse engineering it out of a map. |
| 01:45.06 | *** part/#sc2mapster picklefish (~Shane@cpe-72-179-54-173.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 01:45.34 | Deuce | for the moment, no, not really |
| 01:45.56 | RickA | Triceron: No, they can't. |
| 01:46.03 | RickA | Because you're smart enough to lock your map. |
| 01:46.21 | Fatal5101 | damn sounds on my tower arent working and i forgot what i did last time to fix it |
| 01:46.22 | Triceron | okay, that's more like the answer I'm looking for |
| 01:46.28 | Triceron | now how do I lock a map? |
| 01:46.35 | RickA | Its in the publish settings |
| 01:46.41 | RickA | Blizzard thought of everything |
| 01:46.43 | Fatal5101 | can you host locked maps now? |
| 01:46.49 | RickA | Except how to make the editor not suck. |
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| 01:49.18 | PointBlank | evening everyone |
| 01:49.30 | Triceron | is bnet the only way to transfer a locked map? Or can I send these/upload etc? |
| 01:50.22 | PointBlank | do locked maps even work on bnet right now? |
| 01:51.42 | Triceron | damnit all I wanna do is lock a damned map, and i gotta jump through so many hoops. Log into Bnet through the damned editor, and I still get errors that prevent publishing |
| 01:51.47 | Tehwildcard | No, they dont Pointblack |
| 01:51.51 | Tehwildcard | blank |
| 01:52.06 | Leech | anyone like to play mazes and bounds? |
| 01:52.29 | Tehwildcard | I do leech |
| 01:52.32 | Tehwildcard | I was working on one |
| 01:52.35 | Tehwildcard | but it got too big |
| 01:52.36 | Leech | as am i |
| 01:52.37 | Tehwildcard | to finish |
| 01:52.40 | Leech | ah |
| 01:53.00 | Razernok | Does anyone know how to remove the highlight box? (the one used for group selecting) |
| 01:53.02 | Leech | well i just started 2 days ago on one |
| 01:53.15 | Leech | put about 5 hours or so of work in |
| 01:53.32 | Leech | was wondering if anyone would want to take a "look" at a small section since publishing is down |
| 01:53.35 | Tehwildcard | heres a slightly new version of what I was looking on |
| 01:53.37 | Leech | im looking for 3rd party feedback |
| 01:53.38 | Tehwildcard | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWQ1JtpBh0 |
| 01:53.56 | Tehwildcard | I'll play it :) |
| 01:54.51 | Razernok | I guess not then :( |
| 01:55.26 | casperb | So asked previously, data scopes, what is the scope of the local scope? :P |
| 01:56.02 | onetwo | http://www.wimp.com/surprisingmotivation/ interesting video |
| 01:56.09 | onetwo | kind of relates to mapping |
| 01:56.10 | onetwo | over halfway though |
| 01:59.08 | Fatal5101 | do i have to copy the auto-turret asset if i want to have a big model version and a small one? |
| 01:59.17 | RickA | You have to copy the actor |
| 01:59.24 | casperb | just the actor |
| 01:59.24 | Fatal5101 | i made 2 different actions |
| 01:59.27 | Fatal5101 | the use the same model |
| 01:59.31 | Fatal5101 | the auto-turret |
| 01:59.35 | Fatal5101 | what scale option on the actor |
| 01:59.36 | Fatal5101 | do i change |
| 01:59.43 | Razernok | funny how no one has an answer to my question. |
| 01:59.49 | Stripe | well aanother question: I have ammo crates on my map... which event can I use to check if my spacemarine walks over an ammuntion crate? so he can pick it up |
| 02:00.38 | casperb | Stripe: you could just use items instead, which implement this. but unit is in region works |
| 02:00.45 | onetwo | i did this in infection |
| 02:00.46 | onetwo | stripe |
| 02:00.51 | onetwo | you can open my map |
| 02:00.55 | onetwo | if you download it off bnet from file -> open |
| 02:00.57 | onetwo | i used regions |
| 02:01.15 | Stripe | nah items wont work cause they are not items they just add ammunition ... so the crates get destroyed and an integer is raised |
| 02:01.29 | Stripe | ahh thx |
| 02:01.34 | casperb | basically unit in region of other unit then |
| 02:01.35 | Fatal5101 | is it the "art - scale " under actor that makes the model bigger? |
| 02:01.40 | Fatal5101 | because i tried that with no luck |
| 02:01.41 | casperb | Fatal5101: yes |
| 02:01.46 | Fatal5101 | dont work... |
| 02:01.53 | casperb | Fatal5101: it works |
| 02:02.01 | Fatal5101 | help me out then what could i have done wrong |
| 02:02.02 | casperb | Fatal5101: you're editing the wrong actor then |
| 02:02.04 | Fatal5101 | i have 2 different actors |
| 02:02.17 | Razernok | People are soooo nice. -_- |
| 02:02.33 | RickA | Razer, can you do me a favor? |
| 02:03.03 | Razernok | naw |
| 02:03.10 | Razernok | nah* |
| 02:03.13 | Fatal5101 | i have 2 different auto turrets a basic one and advanced. each one has their own actor with different names the both use the Auto-Turret model |
| 02:03.23 | Razernok | I'll pass rick. |
| 02:03.47 | Stripe | onetwo your map seems to be only uploaded on the USServer :( |
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| 02:04.47 | onetwo | oh |
| 02:04.57 | onetwo | not me |
| 02:04.59 | onetwo | blame blizz |
| 02:05.00 | onetwo | i dont have an eu account |
| 02:05.03 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.07 | onetwo | . |
| 02:05.11 | Stripe | :/ I dont have an US account xD |
| 02:05.12 | onetwo | the gist is |
| 02:05.14 | onetwo | place regions |
| 02:05.19 | onetwo | circle ones |
| 02:05.25 | onetwo | around the crate |
| 02:05.26 | onetwo | then do the triggers |
| 02:05.30 | onetwo | with event of unit enters a region |
| 02:05.30 | Stripe | kk thx |
| 02:05.31 | Pandepic | so with map publishing |
| 02:05.33 | casperb | don't even have to place regions if the crates are units |
| 02:05.36 | Pandepic | to make your map come out for every region |
| 02:05.41 | Pandepic | you need an account in every region? |
| 02:05.44 | onetwo | oh well they were actors in my map |
| 02:05.47 | onetwo | yeah or have someone do it |
| 02:05.49 | onetwo | atm |
| 02:05.51 | onetwo | they may change it |
| 02:05.51 | Pandepic | lame |
| 02:06.00 | onetwo | like apples store lets you publish to any region |
| 02:06.02 | casperb | or actually you don't have to place regions at all, you can just do region from point of actor/unit |
| 02:06.03 | onetwo | theyll probably let us do that |
| 02:06.06 | onetwo | but theyll have to localize it |
| 02:06.14 | NeoDeathXp | made a video tutprial on mod files =) |
| 02:06.29 | NeoDeathXp | its rendering atm |
| 02:07.23 | onetwo | i want to ask Beider what he renders to |
| 02:07.30 | onetwo | because i render to uncompressed AVI from video editing |
| 02:07.34 | onetwo | then i use Easy h264 |
| 02:07.38 | onetwo | to do the compression |
| 02:07.49 | onetwo | but mines always a bit blurry |
| 02:07.54 | Razernok | love that People are just sooooo nice. |
| 02:07.57 | Stripe | caserb can u give me an example for the event ? Its 4. a.m. here in Germany ... Im not that awake right now xD |
| 02:08.08 | NeoDeathXp | i hyst h264 in 720p with adobe premier |
| 02:08.15 | onetwo | i think its because my screen size is 1680x1050 and then i scale my video to 720p |
| 02:08.18 | NeoDeathXp | use* |
| 02:08.33 | onetwo | what resolution is your screen neo? |
| 02:08.37 | onetwo | that you record at |
| 02:08.45 | NeoDeathXp | 1920x1080 |
| 02:08.59 | P_R_Deltoid | BEst resolution |
| 02:09.00 | onetwo | ah |
| 02:09.02 | onetwo | thats why |
| 02:09.06 | onetwo | because yours scales to 720p properly |
| 02:09.12 | onetwo | whereas 1680x1050 |
| 02:09.13 | onetwo | gets scaled |
| 02:09.14 | onetwo | a bit |
| 02:09.18 | NeoDeathXp | yeah |
| 02:09.20 | onetwo | ugh |
| 02:09.57 | onetwo | i find it interesting how monitors are always so far ahead of televisiions |
| 02:10.07 | onetwo | came out |
| 02:10.09 | onetwo | we had like 1600x1200 long before even 720p or 1080 |
| 02:10.29 | Deuce | computers have graphics processors |
| 02:10.31 | onetwo | its all dependant on what the media is i guess |
| 02:10.45 | onetwo | without bluray, no point in having 1080p screen |
| 02:10.46 | onetwo | or hd tv |
| 02:11.36 | Fatal5101 | ok i see a problem that i dont understand... the advanced tower seems to be using the actor on the basic tower even tho the advanced tower has its own actor |
| 02:11.56 | onetwo | ? |
| 02:12.11 | onetwo | for upgrading towers through the morph ability |
| 02:12.14 | onetwo | as i showed in my tutorial |
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| 02:12.26 | onetwo | a basic tower and its upgrade |
| 02:12.30 | Fatal5101 | yes |
| 02:12.32 | onetwo | each have their own actors |
| 02:12.35 | onetwo | done |
| 02:12.37 | onetwo | then in the events |
| 02:12.38 | onetwo | for each actor |
| 02:12.48 | onetwo | you do an event when the morph ability finishes or w/e |
| 02:12.50 | onetwo | im going on memory here |
| 02:13.03 | onetwo | and then the action for that event (in the original tower) is to destroy |
| 02:13.13 | onetwo | and then the action for that event (in the upgraded version's actor) is to create |
| 02:13.20 | onetwo | so one actor destroys itself |
| 02:13.21 | onetwo | another creates |
| 02:13.24 | onetwo | and voila, new unit |
| 02:13.39 | Fatal5101 | so i guess its the actor not changing |
| 02:13.44 | Fatal5101 | because the stats get upgraded |
| 02:13.58 | onetwo | yeah |
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| 02:14.00 | Fatal5101 | ill watch your video again |
| 02:14.02 | onetwo | you need to destroy the old actor |
| 02:14.05 | onetwo | and create the new one |
| 02:14.06 | onetwo | thats the key |
| 02:14.07 | onetwo | for visual |
| 02:14.08 | onetwo | change |
| 02:14.39 | Fatal5101 | maybe that will fix the fact that sound stops working on the tower after its upgraded |
| 02:14.51 | onetwo | oh yeah |
| 02:14.52 | onetwo | i think so |
| 02:15.03 | onetwo | dont forget if your new tower |
| 02:15.07 | Stripe | onetwo are you hosting some video tutorials on youtube? |
| 02:15.09 | onetwo | that your new tower* |
| 02:15.11 | onetwo | has a new weapon |
| 02:15.22 | onetwo | so it needs actors for its weapon |
| 02:15.25 | onetwo | like if you search for probe in actors |
| 02:15.33 | onetwo | you'll see probe, then probe attack, then probe attack beam, and probe attack launch |
| 02:15.34 | onetwo | etc |
| 02:15.37 | onetwo | one of them is a sound actor |
| 02:15.39 | onetwo | for the attack |
| 02:15.49 | onetwo | Stripe |
| 02:15.52 | onetwo | this: http://www.youtube.com/onetwosc ?? |
| 02:15.58 | onetwo | is that what youre asking? |
| 02:16.08 | Stripe | thanks dude :9 |
| 02:16.20 | onetwo | advanced tower D |
| 02:16.21 | onetwo | hes talking about tutorial 7 |
| 02:16.34 | Stripe | subscribed |
| 02:16.51 | onetwo | thx :D |
| 02:16.55 | PointBlank | any of you guys experts on getting a map going up on the public list & raising popularity so it gets tested |
| 02:17.45 | onetwo | Multiplayer-> Create Game-> Pick your map from the list of My Published-> host it |
| 02:17.59 | onetwo | set to the "Other" mode you should have specified in game variants |
| 02:18.00 | onetwo | in your map |
| 02:18.07 | onetwo | Open to public |
| 02:18.08 | onetwo | quit |
| 02:18.12 | onetwo | rehost |
| 02:18.12 | onetwo | repeat |
| 02:18.15 | onetwo | 50x |
| 02:18.19 | onetwo | then youre on page 2 |
| 02:18.23 | PointBlank | lol okay sounds good thx |
| 02:18.29 | PointBlank | will i see it on page 2? |
| 02:18.32 | onetwo | yes |
| 02:18.38 | onetwo | well you can see it |
| 02:18.42 | onetwo | as you get to 20-30 |
| 02:18.43 | PointBlank | k cool so if it doesn't show up my variants are broken |
| 02:18.43 | onetwo | maybe page 3 |
| 02:18.50 | onetwo | your variants are broken |
| 02:18.54 | onetwo | if you cant click Open to Public |
| 02:19.00 | onetwo | because by default its grayed out |
| 02:19.04 | PointBlank | k |
| 02:19.13 | onetwo | but you need |
| 02:19.13 | onetwo | to switch to the variant |
| 02:19.15 | onetwo | like Other |
| 02:19.17 | onetwo | then it opens public |
| 02:19.17 | onetwo | :D |
| 02:21.01 | onetwo | "Hi, I was playing the SC2 Beta and played a map called, 'Special Forces Marauders' and when I played, i could see nothing but black, i could hear and move but not see. I tried other third-person maps, but it turned out the same. Any help, just please reply back. Thank You." |
| 02:21.02 | onetwo | just got a personal message to my youtube email |
| 02:21.06 | onetwo | anyone know what the solution is? |
| 02:21.35 | onetwo | i guess im blizzard's technical support now too |
| 02:21.37 | onetwo | hahah |
| 02:22.15 | Triceron | oh, I know the solution |
| 02:22.27 | onetwo | ? |
| 02:22.28 | Triceron | "get a better computer" |
| 02:22.31 | onetwo | hahah |
| 02:22.32 | onetwo | damnit |
| 02:22.37 | Stripe | xD |
| 02:22.44 | onetwo | why would it be black |
| 02:22.45 | onetwo | for third person |
| 02:22.46 | onetwo | maps only |
| 02:22.49 | onetwo | far clip too low? |
| 02:22.53 | onetwo | but then it would be for all players\ |
| 02:23.03 | Werepenguin | Is there someone out there making an SC2 version of Portal? :) |
| 02:23.12 | Triceron | his settings maybe |
| 02:23.16 | Triceron | too high |
| 02:23.25 | Triceron | then his graphics card is shitty |
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| 02:23.59 | Triceron | he can run the map |
| 02:24.03 | Triceron | he gets sound |
| 02:24.08 | onetwo | k |
| 02:24.13 | Triceron | the problem is visual |
| 02:24.20 | onetwo | but only 3rd person..? |
| 02:24.22 | onetwo | so odd |
| 02:24.56 | Razernok | odd indeed |
| 02:25.19 | Razernok | another odd thing is that people are just soooooo nice |
| 02:25.19 | latszer | Ok, I have a small question, I am making a feedback ability that does damage to a target based on how much energy I have and drains all my mana, but am getting an error that says the unit I am dealing damage to has no energy, I think it has to deal with the damage based on energy effect, any idea how to make the damage base off how much energy I have? |
| 02:25.35 | Fatal5101 | something is not right |
| 02:25.43 | Fatal5101 | when i selected my unit for the morph to |
| 02:25.56 | Fatal5101 | it refered to it as auto turret3 |
| 02:26.10 | onetwo | :O |
| 02:26.22 | onetwo | latszer make the cost of the ability |
| 02:26.24 | onetwo | w/e you want |
| 02:26.25 | onetwo | for energy |
| 02:26.29 | onetwo | like 75 |
| 02:26.32 | onetwo | then make its damage 75 |
| 02:26.46 | onetwo | i dont know what else |
| 02:26.52 | onetwo | perhaps just look at |
| 02:26.53 | onetwo | the high templar ability |
| 02:27.26 | latszer | I am trying to just change the templar ability |
| 02:27.36 | onetwo | oh |
| 02:27.52 | latszer | I figured they might be an easy way I could just change what is being drained |
| 02:27.56 | onetwo | :/ |
| 02:27.57 | latszer | instead of the targets mana, my mana |
| 02:28.37 | onetwo | you could but it would probably be complicated |
| 02:28.40 | onetwo | involving effect sets |
| 02:28.44 | onetwo | and applying an effect backwards to you |
| 02:28.49 | onetwo | of negative energy modification |
| 02:29.10 | latszer | I think I might have gotten it to where it drains my mana |
| 02:29.13 | latszer | maybe.... |
| 02:29.24 | onetwo | kk |
| 02:29.38 | Stripe | gn8 everyone |
| 02:29.55 | onetwo | night |
| 02:29.59 | onetwo | wait |
| 02:30.02 | onetwo | is gn8 |
| 02:30.03 | onetwo | good night? |
| 02:30.14 | onetwo | isnt that goodneight |
| 02:30.15 | onetwo | pretty close i guess... |
| 02:30.17 | latszer | good nate? |
| 02:30.20 | onetwo | good nate |
| 02:30.21 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 02:30.38 | Fatal5101 | ok so i narrowed it down to me doing something wrong with the morph event |
| 02:30.45 | onetwo | k |
| 02:30.45 | onetwo | cool |
| 02:31.11 | Fatal5101 | because when i just make the upgraded version from the builder it is the right size |
| 02:32.02 | onetwo | ah |
| 02:32.34 | Razernok | Just wondering, Does anyone know why people are just sooooo nice for? |
| 02:32.44 | onetwo | are you Martul |
| 02:32.54 | onetwo | ? |
| 02:33.11 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Motive |
| 02:33.14 | purl | motive is currently on #sc2mapster (11h 52m 45s), last said: 'I love that word: burninating.'. |
| 02:33.20 | TheLaughingMan | Motive, are you there? |
| 02:33.30 | onetwo | yep, Razernok is motive |
| 02:33.31 | onetwo | Martul* |
| 02:33.31 | Fatal5101 | why is it under the events. it referers to my tower as MorphTo Auto Turret3. when the actor and tower are named Moderate Tower |
| 02:33.32 | onetwo | err |
| 02:33.50 | onetwo | can you change it |
| 02:34.05 | Fatal5101 | ? |
| 02:34.08 | latszer | what would be preventing me from casting something on a unit without energy? |
| 02:34.13 | onetwo | i dont know hard to say not seeing your editor |
| 02:34.14 | latszer | validator? |
| 02:34.18 | onetwo | all i know is what i did in my tutorial |
| 02:34.30 | onetwo | probably latszer |
| 02:35.03 | latszer | it was a target filter |
| 02:35.15 | Razernok | I guess no one knows then |
| 02:35.47 | TheLaughingMan | Does anyone know how Motive turned his Galaxy Scripts into a SC2Lib |
| 02:35.59 | AsaPhelps | Magic probably |
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| 02:36.16 | latszer | cool, I got it so that it drains my mana, now I just need an effect that does damage based on how much energy I have at the time |
| 02:36.28 | onetwo | cool |
| 02:36.30 | Alpha_vst | howdy |
| 02:36.47 | Fatal5101 | onetwo, if i sent you my map think you could check out my 2 towers to see whats wrong with the morph transition ? |
| 02:36.56 | onetwo | totally |
| 02:36.58 | onetwo | if youre enUS |
| 02:37.01 | Fatal5101 | i am |
| 02:37.02 | onetwo | otherwise i cant read anything |
| 02:37.03 | onetwo | k |
| 02:37.10 | onetwo | or |
| 02:37.10 | onetwo | email me |
| 02:37.12 | onetwo | just provide a link |
| 02:37.12 | onetwo | here |
| 02:37.15 | Fatal5101 | kk |
| 02:39.50 | latszer | meh, I think I find a cop-out to what I was doing |
| 02:40.15 | onetwo | starring bruce willis |
| 02:40.25 | latszer | I can make an ability just validate I have full mana and then x amount of damage and drain all my mana |
| 02:41.12 | PointBlank | bnet down? patching maybe? |
| 02:41.18 | Tehwildcard | Yeah, its down |
| 02:41.25 | Fatal5101 | my computer is going so slow! |
| 02:42.02 | Tehwildcard | Reaper |
| 02:42.02 | Tehwildcard | Nitro Packs research cost decreased from 100/100 to 50/50. |
| 02:42.06 | Tehwildcard | I thought that was a joke |
| 02:42.07 | Tehwildcard | -.- |
| 02:43.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:43.45 | onetwo | if they bring back unique names |
| 02:43.47 | onetwo | im gonna be so happy |
| 02:44.29 | onetwo | omfg your making line tower wars |
| 02:44.31 | onetwo | i loved that game |
| 02:44.32 | Alpha_vst | is bnet down |
| 02:44.36 | onetwo | yes |
| 02:44.38 | onetwo | us is down |
| 02:44.39 | onetwo | for me |
| 02:44.42 | Fatal5101 | best map ever |
| 02:44.43 | Alpha_vst | oh patch 15 |
| 02:44.45 | Alpha_vst | wtf |
| 02:45.08 | onetwo | bnet down |
| 02:45.09 | onetwo | no patch 15 yet |
| 02:45.11 | onetwo | patch notes up |
| 02:45.13 | onetwo | that sums it up |
| 02:45.22 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 02:45.43 | onetwo | which towers |
| 02:45.44 | onetwo | fatal |
| 02:45.49 | Fatal5101 | Basic tower > Moderate Tower |
| 02:45.53 | onetwo | k |
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| 02:46.33 | Fatal5101 | just want it to go from a small auto turret to a bigger auto turret but i guess that is to hard for me |
| 02:46.47 | onetwo | k |
| 02:46.51 | onetwo | lol im watching my own tutorial |
| 02:46.53 | onetwo | to remember |
| 02:46.53 | onetwo | how i did it |
| 02:46.55 | Judgment38 | b.net down |
| 02:47.13 | onetwo | so everything works except the actors |
| 02:47.14 | onetwo | right fatal |
| 02:47.15 | onetwo | ? |
| 02:47.23 | Fatal5101 | yes it upgrades fine |
| 02:47.28 | Fatal5101 | the new tower has the correct damage |
| 02:47.30 | Fatal5101 | and range all that |
| 02:47.36 | onetwo | k |
| 02:47.39 | Fatal5101 | and if i build the upgraded version directly from the builder |
| 02:47.41 | onetwo | so morphing is working |
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| 02:47.43 | Fatal5101 | the model is the right size |
| 02:48.03 | Fatal5101 | but the upgraded version is missing the attack sound |
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| 02:48.08 | onetwo | k |
| 02:48.20 | AsaPhelps | Bnet is down so they can make dota an official map |
| 02:48.23 | Fatal5101 | had this same issue with the basic tower but dont remember what i did to get the sound working |
| 02:50.00 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Skizot] by ChanServ |
| 02:50.17 | onetwo | if you search for actors |
| 02:50.19 | onetwo | err |
| 02:50.20 | onetwo | under actors |
| 02:50.23 | onetwo | if you search for auto turret |
| 02:50.26 | onetwo | i see one made by you |
| 02:50.33 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.40 | AsaPhelps | if you have a high push priority on a unit does that mean it gets pushed by small ones or does it mean it won't be |
| 02:50.46 | onetwo | set up for the basic's weapon |
| 02:50.49 | onetwo | however none exists |
| 02:50.54 | onetwo | i think... |
| 02:50.55 | onetwo | for the moderate one |
| 02:50.58 | Fatal5101 | i seee |
| 02:52.15 | Nuknfuts | bnets down now for the patch? |
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| 02:52.44 | Fatal5101 | i think it stuck in my head this time |
| 02:52.52 | Fatal5101 | wont forget how to make sounds work again |
| 02:54.06 | onetwo | brb eating some dinner |
| 02:54.06 | onetwo | fata |
| 02:54.11 | onetwo | ill get back to you |
| 02:54.11 | onetwo | fatal |
| 02:54.12 | Fatal5101 | alright no rush |
| 02:54.13 | Fatal5101 | take your time |
| 02:55.30 | PointBlank | AsaPhelps: just experiment with two groups of units - should take a minute |
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| 02:56.20 | Skizot | MARTUL? |
| 02:56.43 | Fatal5101 | NOOOO not martul |
| 02:57.27 | latszer | can someone help me for one second...I am having trouble in the effect High Templar - Feedback (Damage Target based on Energy), where do it choose the target of the attack? |
| 02:57.38 | latszer | does* |
| 02:58.18 | RickA | On the ability, not the effect |
| 02:59.30 | latszer | which field? |
| 03:00.03 | RickA | Nevermind, I don't know what I'm talking about. |
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| 03:02.43 | Repo | Added serializeByte |
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| 03:09.26 | PointBlank | latszer: don't you change the Ability "Ability - Target Filters" for that? |
| 03:13.57 | onetwo | . |
| 03:13.58 | onetwo | good |
| 03:14.20 | latszer | basically my question is that I am trying to reverse feedback so that it drains my mana and does damage to me based on my mana, but I cant get it to do damage to me |
| 03:14.29 | latszer | So I am wondering why that might be... |
| 03:15.02 | Judgment38 | I don't get it... that's what it already does? |
| 03:16.37 | RickA | You're better off using a trigger I think. |
| 03:18.03 | PointBlank | so change target filter to self |
| 03:18.07 | PointBlank | rather than enemy |
| 03:18.18 | Razernok | Does anyone know how to remove the highlight box? (the one used for group selecting) |
| 03:18.35 | Fatal5101 | the green circle around a unit? |
| 03:18.52 | onetwo | Fatal, your actor event for morping appears right |
| 03:18.58 | onetwo | and fyi it says auto turret 3 or w/e |
| 03:18.59 | PointBlank | left click drag green box thingy? |
| 03:19.02 | onetwo | because thats its raw name |
| 03:19.04 | Fatal5101 | ya i fixed all the names |
| 03:19.21 | Fatal5101 | so you cant make it work eiher >_< |
| 03:19.23 | Fatal5101 | either* |
| 03:19.32 | onetwo | well |
| 03:19.34 | onetwo | sec |
| 03:19.36 | PointBlank | bnet up yet? |
| 03:19.37 | latszer | ok, since I am making a trigger, how might I be able to save a casters mana into a varialble |
| 03:19.58 | PointBlank | unit property enery |
| 03:20.13 | PointBlank | i think its a real |
| 03:20.17 | PointBlank | so ur variable should be a real |
| 03:20.34 | Razernok | anyone??? |
| 03:20.41 | latszer | is it like check unit property or something? |
| 03:20.46 | onetwo | fyi razernok is Martul |
| 03:20.48 | Sixen | Bnet is down? |
| 03:20.52 | latszer | nm |
| 03:20.52 | onetwo | so look for a long and arduous time |
| 03:20.56 | onetwo | trying to help him |
| 03:20.57 | onetwo | with little compliment |
| 03:20.59 | onetwo | and Sixen |
| 03:21.01 | onetwo | yes it is |
| 03:21.02 | Sixen | OK |
| 03:21.03 | onetwo | for a while now |
| 03:21.14 | onetwo | Fatal |
| 03:21.16 | onetwo | can i go ingame |
| 03:21.16 | onetwo | and test |
| 03:21.22 | onetwo | atleast |
| 03:21.23 | onetwo | will it work |
| 03:21.23 | Fatal5101 | you can do whatever you want |
| 03:21.24 | onetwo | to see |
| 03:21.26 | Sixen | They're doing a reset |
| 03:21.28 | onetwo | do waves spawn and stuff |
| 03:21.29 | Sixen | aren't they |
| 03:21.31 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:21.34 | Fatal5101 | there are no waves |
| 03:21.35 | onetwo | and patch 15 |
| 03:21.38 | Fatal5101 | its user sending units to other players |
| 03:21.39 | onetwo | so how do i get money |
| 03:21.40 | Sixen | Shit |
| 03:21.40 | Sixen | OK |
| 03:21.40 | onetwo | to upgrade |
| 03:21.41 | Fatal5101 | income |
| 03:21.42 | onetwo | oh |
| 03:21.44 | Fatal5101 | you start with money |
| 03:21.46 | onetwo | k |
| 03:21.47 | onetwo | cool |
| 03:21.57 | onetwo | lol i asked if theres waves |
| 03:21.58 | Razernok | I guess not still |
| 03:22.03 | onetwo | and i used to play line tower wars |
| 03:22.04 | onetwo | all the time |
| 03:22.07 | Fatal5101 | >) |
| 03:22.26 | Fatal5101 | the archon that runs by is the anti blocker |
| 03:22.30 | Nuknfuts | 3 2 1.... waiting for complaints about no one helping |
| 03:22.31 | Fatal5101 | you can ignore him |
| 03:22.34 | latszer | one last question, is there any way to check the level of an ability using trigger? |
| 03:22.41 | PointBlank | latszer: lol Nuk |
| 03:22.45 | PointBlank | ay |
| 03:22.53 | PointBlank | ahh why was latszer there |
| 03:22.55 | PointBlank | haha |
| 03:23.11 | onetwo | 12mm gauss cannon copy 4 |
| 03:23.11 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:23.16 | onetwo | the moderate towers weapon name |
| 03:23.25 | Fatal5101 | yeah |
| 03:23.28 | Fatal5101 | i fixed the names on my end |
| 03:23.34 | Fatal5101 | since sending you a copy |
| 03:23.57 | onetwo | ah okay |
| 03:24.00 | PointBlank | latszer: check condition "current level of ability for unit" |
| 03:24.01 | onetwo | k its weird |
| 03:24.10 | onetwo | that yours doesnt |
| 03:24.13 | onetwo | change actor |
| 03:24.14 | onetwo | hmmm |
| 03:24.28 | Fatal5101 | i got it to the point where it would delete the actor but didnt put a new one |
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| 03:25.27 | Fatal5101 | the first part of the morph is working |
| 03:25.33 | Fatal5101 | it is destroying the actor |
| 03:25.42 | Fatal5101 | which means it is placing a new actor |
| 03:25.45 | Fatal5101 | its just not scaled right |
| 03:25.47 | Fatal5101 | for some reason |
| 03:27.19 | onetwo | hmm |
| 03:27.28 | onetwo | it didnt do anything in the version you sent me |
| 03:27.32 | onetwo | or maybe it did |
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| 03:27.42 | Fatal5101 | well if you remove the events on the moderate tower |
| 03:27.43 | Fatal5101 | so it does not create anything |
| 03:27.44 | onetwo | just didnt scale |
| 03:27.48 | Fatal5101 | then you see it delete |
| 03:27.49 | onetwo | yeah? |
| 03:27.50 | Fatal5101 | the first one |
| 03:27.50 | onetwo | OOH |
| 03:27.52 | onetwo | then its working |
| 03:27.56 | onetwo | just an issu with model then |
| 03:27.59 | rrowland | sup |
| 03:28.14 | onetwo | hi |
| 03:28.17 | Fatal5101 | but the model is working when you just use the builder to create the upgraded version instead of morphing |
| 03:28.17 | onetwo | is it the same as the regular one |
| 03:28.19 | onetwo | in every way |
| 03:28.20 | onetwo | visually |
| 03:28.23 | onetwo | except 3x the size? |
| 03:28.27 | onetwo | cause 3x scale is HUGE |
| 03:28.27 | Fatal5101 | yep |
| 03:28.34 | Fatal5101 | ya it is huge |
| 03:28.34 | onetwo | the footprint would have to change |
| 03:28.35 | Fatal5101 | found that out |
| 03:28.39 | onetwo | i would recommend not doing that for upgrades |
| 03:28.39 | Fatal5101 | i dont want it that big |
| 03:28.42 | Fatal5101 | its gonna be 1.8 |
| 03:28.47 | onetwo | because if they build it on a 1x1 square |
| 03:28.50 | onetwo | then upgrade takes 2x2 |
| 03:28.52 | onetwo | itll mess up |
| 03:28.53 | onetwo | mazes |
| 03:30.25 | PointBlank | can do liftoff/addon method tho where upgrade grows in size and if can't place it lifts off and places wherever |
| 03:30.34 | PointBlank | not that i know anything about what ur doing, just giving a suggestion |
| 03:30.59 | onetwo | that could work |
| 03:31.03 | onetwo | but needless work |
| 03:31.06 | onetwo | for both the map maker |
| 03:31.08 | onetwo | and the player |
| 03:31.12 | latszer | ok....one final final thing and then I will shut up =P how do I make the targets unit health = his life (current) - archon mana (its a variable). |
| 03:31.13 | onetwo | just better to not scale too much |
| 03:31.14 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:31.26 | onetwo | unit - modify property |
| 03:31.28 | onetwo | i assume you mean in triggers |
| 03:31.38 | onetwo | then the modification will be |
| 03:31.43 | onetwo | of his health |
| 03:31.50 | Judgment38 | Who made Tron |
| 03:31.51 | onetwo | and then you want to do |
| 03:31.57 | onetwo | Math-> Arithmetic |
| 03:31.57 | PointBlank | well if it's a tower defense i think giving liftoff ability would be a neat mechanic myself :P just make fly speed damn slow |
| 03:32.05 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:32.09 | onetwo | and then do |
| 03:32.16 | onetwo | life current of target |
| 03:32.17 | onetwo | minus |
| 03:32.28 | onetwo | mana variable |
| 03:32.30 | latszer | do you mean set unit property? |
| 03:32.35 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:32.40 | onetwo | and life current of target will be under |
| 03:32.43 | onetwo | unit - unit property |
| 03:33.01 | latszer | ok how do I do the minus in math (new to triggers) |
| 03:33.27 | latszer | so far it is... |
| 03:33.55 | PointBlank | minus is "arithmetic" |
| 03:34.07 | PointBlank | and select the minus sign in parameters |
| 03:34.07 | onetwo | yes |
| 03:34.09 | onetwo | yes |
| 03:34.13 | AsaPhelps | so is bnet down for a patch? |
| 03:34.17 | onetwo | Fatal5101 |
| 03:34.19 | onetwo | http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7615/turret.jpg |
| 03:34.19 | PointBlank | hopefully |
| 03:34.21 | onetwo | YOU LIKE? |
| 03:34.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:34.36 | PointBlank | i'll be here to get my name for the db wipe :P |
| 03:34.38 | Vandari | Hi everyone. Does anyone know how I can edit the help menu in a custom map? |
| 03:34.45 | onetwo | id be interested in that too |
| 03:34.46 | latszer | AWESOME |
| 03:34.48 | onetwo | Vandari |
| 03:34.49 | latszer | wow... |
| 03:34.55 | latszer | hopefully this works |
| 03:34.59 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:34.59 | PointBlank | lol onetwo what's that for |
| 03:35.08 | onetwo | i got his actor to be right scale |
| 03:35.11 | onetwo | for upgraded turret |
| 03:35.23 | onetwo | Fatal5101 |
| 03:35.24 | onetwo | come back! |
| 03:35.27 | Fatal5101 | im her |
| 03:35.28 | Fatal5101 | e |
| 03:35.33 | Vandari | I've added a new race |
| 03:35.33 | onetwo | did you see pic |
| 03:35.33 | onetwo | oh |
| 03:35.34 | Fatal5101 | what did i do wrong |
| 03:35.35 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:35.37 | onetwo | so |
| 03:35.38 | onetwo | you didnt |
| 03:35.41 | onetwo | just scale is broken |
| 03:35.45 | onetwo | not our problem |
| 03:35.49 | onetwo | but a workaround for now is |
| 03:35.52 | onetwo | leave it at 1 or w/e |
| 03:35.57 | onetwo | then in events for the moderate tower |
| 03:36.00 | Vandari | and it shows up in the help menu, but I can't find the text to edit it's name |
| 03:36.00 | Nuknfuts | whens server due to be up? |
| 03:36.02 | onetwo | copy paste our ability morph one |
| 03:36.07 | onetwo | and change create to be Set Scale |
| 03:36.08 | onetwo | instead |
| 03:36.11 | onetwo | and then make it 3 |
| 03:36.11 | Vandari | it shows up as "UI/Blah blah blah" |
| 03:36.11 | onetwo | there |
| 03:36.22 | onetwo | got it? |
| 03:36.23 | Fatal5101 | but it wont be 3 it will be 1.8 :) |
| 03:36.24 | Fatal5101 | yep |
| 03:36.31 | onetwo | okay 1.8 |
| 03:36.33 | onetwo | i mean |
| 03:36.33 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:36.37 | onetwo | you can also tint it |
| 03:36.41 | onetwo | or w/e else |
| 03:36.42 | onetwo | you want |
| 03:36.49 | Fatal5101 | awesome |
| 03:37.53 | Fatal5101 | are you able to make multi actions for the event |
| 03:37.58 | onetwo | dont think so |
| 03:38.02 | onetwo | have to copy paste again |
| 03:38.05 | Fatal5101 | you just need to make more then 1 event |
| 03:38.07 | Fatal5101 | for the same thing |
| 03:38.10 | Fatal5101 | ? |
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| 03:38.32 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:38.40 | onetwo | same event/term with action of create |
| 03:38.45 | onetwo | same event/term with action of set scale to 1.8 |
| 03:38.46 | onetwo | and so on |
| 03:39.05 | Fatal5101 | so do i even need the destroy event |
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| 03:39.09 | onetwo | yes |
| 03:39.13 | onetwo | otherwise your original tower |
| 03:39.14 | onetwo | will be stacked |
| 03:39.15 | onetwo | on the new one |
| 03:39.19 | Fatal5101 | ok |
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| 03:39.37 | onetwo | old tower needs destroy |
| 03:39.40 | onetwo | new one needs create and set scale |
| 03:40.02 | Fatal5101 | awesome |
| 03:40.05 | Fatal5101 | everything is perfect now |
| 03:40.14 | Fatal5101 | atleast with that 1 tower |
| 03:40.16 | Fatal5101 | and upgrade |
| 03:40.35 | onetwo | nice |
| 03:40.37 | Fatal5101 | wonder how you would make it so it slowly scaled up as it was upgrading |
| 03:40.44 | onetwo | i did that |
| 03:40.47 | onetwo | err |
| 03:40.54 | onetwo | not sure how to do that |
| 03:40.56 | onetwo | but i made a blend time of 1 |
| 03:40.58 | onetwo | 1.000 |
| 03:41.00 | onetwo | under the set scale |
| 03:41.06 | Fatal5101 | ya i put a blend time on it |
| 03:41.11 | onetwo | OH |
| 03:41.20 | onetwo | well this is a bit heavy |
| 03:41.30 | onetwo | but you could set scale of original tower |
| 03:41.34 | onetwo | to 1.8 |
| 03:41.35 | onetwo | blend time of 5 |
| 03:41.44 | onetwo | or w/e it takes to upgrade |
| 03:41.45 | onetwo | when Morph STARTS |
| 03:41.47 | onetwo | instead of finishes |
| 03:41.53 | onetwo | but then you need to de-scale it if cancelled too |
| 03:41.58 | onetwo | if theres an event for cancel |
| 03:41.59 | Fatal5101 | ehh thats ok |
| 03:42.09 | Fatal5101 | you wouldnt happen to know why im getting that trigger error would you |
| 03:42.09 | onetwo | agreed |
| 03:42.17 | onetwo | na i didnt look |
| 03:42.18 | onetwo | sorry |
| 03:42.25 | Fatal5101 | alright |
| 03:43.57 | onetwo | someone msg the channel when bnet is up |
| 03:44.00 | onetwo | so we can get our names |
| 03:44.03 | onetwo | if they changed it to unique |
| 03:45.49 | P_R_Deltoid | bnet is resetting again? |
| 03:45.51 | P_R_Deltoid | jesus christ |
| 03:46.01 | onetwo | i like it :D |
| 03:46.03 | onetwo | change is good |
| 03:46.16 | P_R_Deltoid | They should really change the system of naming, but resetting is getting pretty old |
| 03:46.23 | P_R_Deltoid | gonna have to place again, go against cheezers |
| 03:46.26 | onetwo | meh |
| 03:46.29 | onetwo | it is a beta remember |
| 03:46.30 | onetwo | its easy to frget |
| 03:46.32 | onetwo | forget |
| 03:46.35 | onetwo | because weve been playing so long |
| 03:46.47 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh, I remember. Too bad most of the time bnet is down or broken! |
| 03:46.48 | RodOfNOD | how would they change the naming system? |
| 03:46.55 | rrowland | If you're decent at all cheese is easy to beat |
| 03:46.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Make it normal? |
| 03:46.55 | onetwo | Unique names |
| 03:47.02 | P_R_Deltoid | Not requiring emails or real names |
| 03:47.05 | P_R_Deltoid | just unique nicknames |
| 03:47.09 | P_R_Deltoid | no second identifiers |
| 03:47.18 | onetwo | meh even at plat before diamond came out, people would try and cheese... you just have to be aware |
| 03:47.19 | P_R_Deltoid | no overcomplication of a system that worked perfectly well, even in WC3 |
| 03:47.20 | onetwo | catch them |
| 03:47.22 | RodOfNOD | do we know why they have the 2nd name? |
| 03:47.24 | onetwo | and counter quickly to defend yourself |
| 03:47.28 | onetwo | im talking about 1v1 |
| 03:47.37 | rrowland | Cheese is easy to scout and beat, srsly |
| 03:47.42 | onetwo | but not always |
| 03:47.44 | P_R_Deltoid | They wanted people to look unique |
| 03:47.46 | onetwo | everyone gets caught rrowland |
| 03:47.48 | onetwo | atleast one time |
| 03:47.49 | onetwo | hahaa |
| 03:48.02 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 03:48.02 | P_R_Deltoid | So you have a second name incase two people with the same first name are in the same group |
| 03:48.17 | rrowland | But if you're consistently getting caught by cheese |
| 03:48.22 | RodOfNOD | k i didnt get that |
| 03:48.23 | onetwo | if identifiers come back, i want them in my name at all times |
| 03:48.27 | rrowland | Then there's a reason you're in gold or w/e |
| 03:48.41 | RodOfNOD | your saying that currently 2 people can have the same name across groups |
| 03:48.48 | onetwo | yes |
| 03:48.50 | onetwo | go make onetwo |
| 03:48.53 | onetwo | or if it wasnt down |
| 03:48.53 | onetwo | i mean |
| 03:48.54 | onetwo | you could |
| 03:48.56 | latszer | My triggers arent working |
| 03:48.58 | onetwo | have same name as me |
| 03:49.11 | latszer | could someone possibly look at them somehow? |
| 03:49.28 | RodOfNOD | well im for one name per game id myself |
| 03:49.50 | RodOfNOD | that way hackers and there will be hackers wont be able to hide as easy as in sc |
| 03:50.03 | AsaPhelps | What name should I steal when the database is reset |
| 03:50.03 | RodOfNOD | define not working |
| 03:50.17 | RodOfNOD | zergling |
| 03:50.23 | onetwo | i dont know if purely unique names works when we can only have one name |
| 03:50.29 | onetwo | whereas in war3 we could have unlimited |
| 03:50.30 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 03:50.36 | onetwo | for free that is |
| 03:50.43 | RodOfNOD | why not have completely unique names |
| 03:51.01 | AsaPhelps | I don't think there's one thing about 2.0 thats good |
| 03:51.08 | AsaPhelps | except its prettier |
| 03:51.10 | onetwo | cause in a year |
| 03:51.13 | onetwo | everything will be gone |
| 03:51.23 | onetwo | but i guess |
| 03:51.23 | AsaPhelps | you mean the end of the world? |
| 03:51.26 | AsaPhelps | thats in 2 years |
| 03:51.26 | onetwo | its ok |
| 03:51.28 | onetwo | id prefer it |
| 03:51.33 | onetwo | that means on game release |
| 03:51.34 | RodOfNOD | it will be gone anyways lol |
| 03:51.36 | onetwo | i HAVE to get onetwo |
| 03:51.39 | onetwo | otherwise F |
| 03:51.41 | onetwo | llol |
| 03:51.43 | AsaPhelps | I'm getting onetwo |
| 03:51.48 | onetwo | onetoo then |
| 03:51.53 | RodOfNOD | well if its cokmpletely unique then people wouldnt take ur name for spite |
| 03:51.54 | AsaPhelps | I'll get onetootoo |
| 03:51.57 | RodOfNOD | cuz they would only get one |
| 03:52.00 | AsaPhelps | onetwotoo |
| 03:52.01 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:52.02 | onetwo | true |
| 03:52.09 | onetwo | except someone like idrA |
| 03:52.15 | onetwo | but blizzard might just give him the name |
| 03:52.19 | onetwo | cause they know who he is |
| 03:52.24 | RodOfNOD | allow 1 per id and allow u to cahnge ur name anytime and if u dont use ur name in 30 days for the first year it kills the nam e |
| 03:52.25 | onetwo | like websites |
| 03:52.37 | AsaPhelps | Idra will hire someone to stand outside gamespot at midnight |
| 03:52.41 | onetwo | someone takes walmart.com... government will make it go to the real walmart ( bad example) |
| 03:52.46 | AsaPhelps | starting at midnight the previous day |
| 03:52.49 | RodOfNOD | who is idra |
| 03:52.49 | onetwo | good idea Rod |
| 03:52.53 | onetwo | otherwise someone will sit on good names |
| 03:52.58 | AsaPhelps | and have them call him so he can enter the cd at his house |
| 03:53.13 | RodOfNOD | also allow yourself to RESET ur record anytime u want |
| 03:53.18 | Baron | Rod, he's a famous pro gamer. |
| 03:53.21 | RodOfNOD | that way ur not penalized for learning |
| 03:53.24 | RodOfNOD | lol i am :> |
| 03:53.31 | Baron | And why did I answer that... |
| 03:53.37 | AsaPhelps | I heard idra uses steriods |
| 03:53.41 | latszer | Pointblank you still around? |
| 03:53.45 | PointBlank | yo |
| 03:53.52 | AsaPhelps | ~seen PointBlank |
| 03:53.54 | purl | pointblank is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 4m 46s). Has said a total of 31 messages. Is idling for 9s, last said: 'yo'. |
| 03:53.59 | onetwo | . |
| 03:54.00 | onetwo | hahah |
| 03:54.03 | PointBlank | haha |
| 03:54.03 | RodOfNOD | lol thought u were saying i was a pro gamer. i was in 1995 hehe on cnc :> |
| 03:54.05 | Baron | http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Idra |
| 03:54.17 | latszer | My trigger isnt working for some reason |
| 03:54.21 | P_R_Deltoid | RodOfNOD, and placing? Because then you're going to have pros who want perfect records reseting and getting doign their placements over and over |
| 03:54.21 | Vandari | grrr! this help menu is eluding me... I've scoured the web |
| 03:54.22 | Baron | Had a sudden lapse of kindness there |
| 03:54.23 | P_R_Deltoid | and destroying everyone |
| 03:54.29 | RodOfNOD | latser paste it on pastebin.com |
| 03:54.31 | Razernok | Does anyone know how to remove the highlight box? (the one used for group selecting) |
| 03:54.40 | RodOfNOD | thats fine deltoid |
| 03:54.45 | onetwo | http://www.idra-al.org/ |
| 03:54.48 | AsaPhelps | remove the flag selectable from a unit? |
| 03:54.49 | RodOfNOD | i have no issue with that |
| 03:54.50 | onetwo | obviously based on the real idrA |
| 03:55.03 | RodOfNOD | doing so for the first year would be perfectly fine to me |
| 03:55.04 | PointBlank | yeah latszer just select the whole thing copy as text and put it on pastebin.com |
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| 03:55.12 | latszer | (Triggering unit) uses Archon Hero - Feedback at Generic1 - Any stage (Ignore shared abilities) |
| 03:55.32 | RickA | Can't be triggering unit |
| 03:55.35 | RickA | Has to be a specific unit |
| 03:55.38 | PointBlank | make that any unit |
| 03:55.39 | RodOfNOD | u could add in a feature that show total game count and if its like this 100-1 and total games = 3000 well u know what they did dont u |
| 03:55.46 | RickA | Yeah it can be any unit also |
| 03:55.52 | Baron | Anyway, I got my mechs moving pretty close to how I want, but I've run into two problems. One, they have turrets and their turrets should be allowed to keep firing as long as the target is within the arc of the turret no matter how the unit moves, but the turret faces forward whenever I give a move order. (I do want it to face the direction of movement when it DOESN'T have a target). |
| 03:55.58 | PointBlank | or ur specific unit |
| 03:56.02 | onetwo | you gotta admire blizz though for working on bnet right now |
| 03:56.03 | onetwo | 9pm |
| 03:56.04 | onetwo | at night |
| 03:56.11 | Baron | Two, my custom weapon has no sound effect D: I based it on the viking gatling guns and it should have that sound, but it doesn't |
| 03:56.13 | PointBlank | they have the money for it |
| 03:56.16 | onetwo | rather than 5pm go home |
| 03:56.18 | onetwo | stop caring |
| 03:56.28 | RodOfNOD | i just want them to enforce hackers getting permanetly banned |
| 03:56.31 | PointBlank | can pay their techs a few extra K in OT to meet launch dates |
| 03:56.36 | Razernok | anyone at all??? |
| 03:56.48 | Baron | Sorry Razer, no clue |
| 03:57.08 | Razernok | 110 people are no one will help, such nice people |
| 03:57.14 | RodOfNOD | why do u want to remove it? |
| 03:57.15 | Razernok | and no one* |
| 03:57.16 | onetwo | what do you mean |
| 03:57.17 | onetwo | highlight box |
| 03:57.19 | onetwo | youre so unclear |
| 03:57.22 | onetwo | help us out a bit |
| 03:57.27 | Razernok | I told you |
| 03:57.29 | PointBlank | Razernok you're unclear and I've asked before but you didn't respond |
| 03:57.30 | onetwo | the selection box? |
| 03:57.30 | RodOfNOD | my thoughts exactly |
| 03:57.32 | Baron | When you click and drag in game |
| 03:57.34 | onetwo | what is it? |
| 03:57.37 | Baron | He doesn't want that green box to appear |
| 03:57.50 | RodOfNOD | oh see thatsnot what i got out of it |
| 03:57.59 | RodOfNOD | why do u not want that |
| 03:58.13 | Razernok | i don't need it in my map |
| 03:58.17 | Baron | lol I thought what he asked was pretty obvious. |
| 03:58.19 | PointBlank | i haven't done any mousework so I don't know how to remove it sorry |
| 03:58.28 | RodOfNOD | ye s yes of course but why do u want it gone |
| 03:58.28 | Baron | Ok, if you don't need it why even bother removing it? |
| 03:58.43 | RodOfNOD | baron what i saw and HEARD hehe is the ability to select multiple units |
| 03:59.10 | latszer | sorry, he is what I have now... |
| 03:59.11 | latszer | Check Archon Mana and Deal Damage Events Unit - Any Unit uses Archon Hero - Feedback at Generic1 - Any stage (Ignore shared abilities) Local Variables Conditions Actions Variable - Set Mana for Archon Hero = ((Triggering unit) Energy (Current)) Unit - Set (Target unit for (Triggering order)) Life to 0.0 |
| 03:59.14 | latszer | wow |
| 03:59.15 | latszer | nm |
| 03:59.26 | onetwo | the problem is that Razernok aka Martul aka Blayzin works on something really obscure for a few days, then comes on here expecting help while giving mild description in fragmented english, knowing full-well already that it can't be done. We waste time and effort trying to help, 2 years later he has no maps released and everyone waste their time. I could be wrong about maps though, maybe he's a genius behind the curtain. |
| 03:59.30 | Razernok | it is annoying when using my movement for it to keep making the stupid box |
| 03:59.33 | RodOfNOD | i wish people would use pastebin :P |
| 03:59.45 | latszer | http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=MCM9M41P |
| 03:59.48 | latszer | I did |
| 03:59.49 | latszer | lol |
| 03:59.54 | onetwo | sorry Razer |
| 03:59.55 | onetwo | had to say it |
| 03:59.57 | Baron | Using your movement? |
| 04:00.15 | AsaPhelps | shattered horizon is free this weekend, is it worth playing? |
| 04:00.26 | Baron | What is your "movement" and why does it make the box appear? Maybe then we'd understand what exactly you're trying to do |
| 04:00.29 | Razernok | I use the mouse for a movement system |
| 04:00.38 | RodOfNOD | im guessing it just doesnt work latszer? |
| 04:00.44 | latszer | yup |
| 04:00.50 | latszer | mana for archon hero is a variable btw |
| 04:01.03 | RodOfNOD | k i havent spent anytime on this type of trigger yet but i am a pro at wc3 so let me dig |
| 04:01.15 | Razernok | when you click and hold the mouse button down to move then move the mouse the box is made |
| 04:01.27 | Razernok | i need to remove the stupid selection box |
| 04:01.29 | onetwo | razer i think thats built into the game |
| 04:01.31 | onetwo | you cant remove that |
| 04:01.34 | Triceron | Razer - that's in the game |
| 04:01.36 | Triceron | it's hard coded |
| 04:01.37 | Razernok | I don't want it |
| 04:01.40 | Triceron | not a map thing |
| 04:01.41 | RodOfNOD | IF u can find the model |
| 04:01.42 | Baron | K, so he does clicking and dragging for things other than selecting. If nobody here knows how to make that box disappear ask at the map development forum at battle.net, there are people from lots of different sites there. |
| 04:01.46 | RodOfNOD | then u MIGHT be able to remove it |
| 04:01.51 | onetwo | would it be a model? |
| 04:01.56 | Baron | I don't see why he wouldn't be able to remove it |
| 04:01.57 | onetwo | generating a line |
| 04:01.57 | onetwo | isnt it just green pixels |
| 04:02.00 | Baron | You can remove all the other UI |
| 04:02.03 | onetwo | Baron |
| 04:02.03 | Baron | I just don't know how |
| 04:02.04 | RodOfNOD | well it could be |
| 04:02.08 | onetwo | hes Martul |
| 04:02.11 | RodOfNOD | just thinking positively |
| 04:02.15 | onetwo | his requests arent doable |
| 04:02.15 | onetwo | so far |
| 04:02.17 | onetwo | 100% |
| 04:02.19 | onetwo | so i wouldnt be surprised |
| 04:02.22 | onetwo | that this isnt doable |
| 04:02.25 | RodOfNOD | id have to agree unless its a galaxy editor setting i doubt it |
| 04:02.31 | Baron | lol, did you get Blizz confirmation on any of them? |
| 04:02.34 | Baron | That they weren't doable? |
| 04:02.37 | PointBlank | k so latszer this doesn't work at all right now? |
| 04:02.37 | onetwo | yes |
| 04:02.40 | Baron | k |
| 04:02.40 | Triceron | I remember talking to Skiz about it for his map. There's no click and hold feature built in |
| 04:02.41 | onetwo | Skizot i believe |
| 04:02.41 | RodOfNOD | what other things did he want |
| 04:02.42 | onetwo | used a favor |
| 04:02.45 | onetwo | with a blizz employee |
| 04:02.46 | Razernok | I've already removed the standard UI |
| 04:02.47 | onetwo | to get a no answer |
| 04:02.49 | onetwo | on one of them |
| 04:02.49 | latszer | not really |
| 04:02.54 | Razernok | selection box is still there |
| 04:03.06 | latszer | basically, when I target a unit with feedback it should die |
| 04:03.09 | latszer | according to my trigger |
| 04:03.17 | Baron | Anyway, back to my problem |
| 04:03.28 | Razernok | i need the selection box GONE |
| 04:03.40 | onetwo | is it hindering your game? |
| 04:03.43 | Baron | I got my units moving pretty close to how I want, but I've run into two problems. One, they have turrets and their turrets should be allowed to keep firing as long as the target is within the arc of the turret no matter how the unit moves, but the turret faces forward whenever I give a move order. (I do want it to face the direction of movement when it DOESN'T have a target). |
| 04:03.47 | onetwo | like is it still playable razer |
| 04:03.48 | Triceron | Razernok - it's impossible. |
| 04:03.51 | PointBlank | first thing to do, add another action "UI - Message" and make sure that trigger is firing |
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| 04:04.24 | Razernok | yes it does hinder the game. |
| 04:04.27 | Baron | Two, I don't know where to set sounds for weapons. My unit makes all the unit response sounds, but not the weapon firing sounds. |
| 04:04.30 | onetwo | Razer can you hide the mouse |
| 04:04.36 | onetwo | using that trigger |
| 04:04.40 | onetwo | then put a fake cursor |
| 04:04.41 | onetwo | over top |
| 04:04.48 | Razernok | my movement system uses the mouse |
| 04:04.53 | onetwo | hmm |
| 04:04.57 | Triceron | the only way I can see is changing the graphic out |
| 04:05.04 | Triceron | but even then it doesnt' stop the selection problem |
| 04:05.13 | Triceron | as long as you click and hold |
| 04:05.14 | Baron | Wait Razer, is it hindering the game because of the lines appearing when you do it, or because it's selecting things? |
| 04:05.19 | Triceron | it will be trying to select |
| 04:05.29 | onetwo | yeah i think thats beyond the game |
| 04:05.35 | RodOfNOD | hi triceron! |
| 04:05.37 | onetwo | like thats something that youd do if you were modding the halflife 2 engine |
| 04:05.39 | onetwo | this is mapping |
| 04:05.42 | Triceron | Ahoy Rod! |
| 04:05.45 | onetwo | not an entire engine rewrite |
| 04:05.46 | onetwo | im guessing |
| 04:05.46 | rrowland | Anyone else working on a melee AI? |
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| 04:05.59 | latszer | Pointblank, the message is firing (although more than once for some reason) |
| 04:06.02 | PointBlank | @Razernok (and onetwo) my map is on hold until I can dynamically set the armor type and attributes of a unit and/or unit type - currently we can't do it as far as I know |
| 04:06.24 | Razernok | selection box is making you instead selecting something |
| 04:06.54 | onetwo | you can |
| 04:06.57 | onetwo | do attributes |
| 04:07.01 | onetwo | i believe... |
| 04:07.12 | crazyfingers | Hey anyone here know anything about 38 studios by any chance? |
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| 04:07.36 | Triceron | @crazyfingers what do they do? |
| 04:07.39 | PointBlank | say add attribute "armored" to something - if you know how to do that you're amazing |
| 04:07.49 | latszer | maybe Unit - Set (Target unit for (Triggering order)) Life to 0.0 is not proper syntax |
| 04:07.51 | onetwo | hmm |
| 04:07.54 | onetwo | cant say atm |
| 04:07.54 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:07.59 | PointBlank | latszer it fires more than once because of the generic you selected |
| 04:08.03 | heysparky | Owned by Red Sox pitcher, craazy |
| 04:08.15 | Triceron | oh curt schilling mmo? |
| 04:08.30 | Triceron | haven't heard anything from em since |
| 04:08.41 | PointBlank | anyway triggering order is the wrong thing in that one latszer use triggering ability |
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| 04:08.47 | Baron | So nobody has a solution for me? Did you even notice me asking? |
| 04:08.59 | PointBlank | and if you want to kill a unit use kill unit, otherwise change your 0.0 to the variable |
| 04:09.19 | heysparky | Baron, sometimes questions get lost. Ask again if osmething seems missed. |
| 04:10.27 | latszer | pointblank, thanks so much, should I just pick some random generic so that it does not go off more than once? |
| 04:10.31 | onetwo | PointBlank, id like to know if you can make abiltiies that do damage based on the amount of an attribute |
| 04:10.33 | onetwo | so if you have 50 strenght, charge does +50 dmg |
| 04:10.39 | onetwo | im gonna mess around in the future and see |
| 04:10.58 | Triceron | that should be doable. It was a staple feature in War3, right? |
| 04:11.05 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 04:11.06 | onetwo | was it? |
| 04:11.12 | onetwo | wasnt it just abilities doing XX damage |
| 04:11.13 | onetwo | 100 |
| 04:11.14 | onetwo | etc |
| 04:11.16 | Triceron | well str for str heroes gave them + damage |
| 04:11.20 | onetwo | for attack |
| 04:11.23 | onetwo | but not for abilities |
| 04:11.27 | Triceron | oh you mean for ability |
| 04:11.32 | onetwo | like in WoW, + spell power = more damage |
| 04:11.37 | onetwo | i wonder if i can do something like that |
| 04:11.40 | onetwo | for say,fireball |
| 04:11.42 | Triceron | I don't know if you can set them to be dynamic variables |
| 04:11.46 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:11.47 | onetwo | hmmm |
| 04:11.48 | Baron | My unit has a turret, I want it to stay locked on target and keep firing as long as the target is within its arc, even when it's given a move order. When it doesn't have a target it should face the movement direction which it does, but it faces the movement direction if I tell the unit to move while in combat, which is bad. |
| 04:11.50 | Triceron | like +X damage, where X is the attribute |
| 04:11.54 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:12.06 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:12.12 | onetwo | Baron no idea, other than the fields located on the |
| 04:12.13 | onetwo | Turret |
| 04:12.15 | onetwo | for the unit |
| 04:12.22 | onetwo | also, i think you can set unit facing |
| 04:12.27 | onetwo | or turn direction |
| 04:12.28 | onetwo | or something |
| 04:12.32 | onetwo | through triggers |
| 04:12.33 | onetwo | if thats a last resort |
| 04:12.48 | Baron | I checked unit and turret, it can fire while moving, but the turret will always stop firing and face the movement direction if I tell the unit to move, which it should do out of combat, but not in combat :( |
| 04:13.07 | Baron | I guess I can change that with triggers or something, oh well. |
| 04:13.09 | heysparky | President and CEO of 38 was from EALA, hear he's an all right dude, but don't know him |
| 04:13.15 | PointBlank | latszer keep the message in the trigger and try different events to see which one fires once ... i think i used one that was effect complete or something |
| 04:14.05 | PointBlank | onetwo i was talking more about what they call "unit attributes" which is armored, light, biological, etc - currently you cannot specify custom ones or dynamically change them with events/abilities/triggers |
| 04:14.13 | onetwo | OH |
| 04:14.17 | onetwo | i thought you meant behavior attributes |
| 04:14.21 | onetwo | oh yeah |
| 04:14.23 | onetwo | that seems built in |
| 04:14.28 | onetwo | theres a lot of choices though |
| 04:14.29 | onetwo | i guess |
| 04:14.37 | onetwo | maybe they havent got around to it yet |
| 04:14.42 | onetwo | like in release it may be doable |
| 04:14.46 | onetwo | but |
| 04:14.55 | onetwo | like we can change |
| 04:15.00 | onetwo | a unit's weapon |
| 04:15.03 | onetwo | but not its armor |
| 04:15.07 | onetwo | because theres no armor data type |
| 04:15.33 | onetwo | but we already have so much we can do |
| 04:15.34 | onetwo | so not a big deal |
| 04:15.43 | onetwo | would probably just add more confusion |
| 04:15.56 | PointBlank | onetwo my map was going to be an epic random unit map |
| 04:16.05 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:16.05 | PointBlank | completely random armor and weapons and attributes |
| 04:16.11 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:16.18 | PointBlank | but it's on hold until they add functionality |
| 04:16.33 | heysparky | hey - who here is writing Galaxy stuffs? |
| 04:16.58 | RodOfNOD | latszer interesting: this does work |
| 04:16.59 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/666AxW0A |
| 04:18.28 | RodOfNOD | what is strange is: (Target unit for (Triggering order)) <> (Triggering ability target unit) |
| 04:18.53 | RodOfNOD | onetwo any reason why those shouldnt be same unit? |
| 04:19.00 | onetwo | are they not? |
| 04:19.03 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 04:19.21 | RodOfNOD | idk wha the first part is but the 2nd workd |
| 04:19.26 | onetwo | whats the event |
| 04:19.29 | onetwo | unit issued order |
| 04:19.33 | onetwo | or the other one |
| 04:19.37 | RodOfNOD | Unit - Any Unit uses High Templar - Feedback at Generic1 - Any stage (Ignore shared abilities) |
| 04:19.43 | onetwo | k thats why |
| 04:19.49 | onetwo | if you changed that event to be a unit is issued an order |
| 04:19.54 | onetwo | and then picked the order to be your ability |
| 04:19.56 | onetwo | youd have to use the first one |
| 04:19.57 | PointBlank | RodOfNOD I think we figured it out already :) |
| 04:20.01 | onetwo | but you did a different event |
| 04:20.17 | RodOfNOD | well i litearlly havent coded that so i wanted to do it myself pointblank :> |
| 04:20.21 | rrowland | Anybody here done enough with AI to figure out how to change their rally points to new expansions? |
| 04:20.23 | onetwo | ah |
| 04:20.32 | RodOfNOD | pro jasser <> pro galazy :> |
| 04:20.32 | rrowland | Mine just sits in my base and leaves expos to die by default |
| 04:20.48 | latszer | well...I almost have it figured out =P |
| 04:20.55 | RodOfNOD | did my code work? |
| 04:21.02 | latszer | yeah |
| 04:21.05 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 04:21.09 | latszer | I am trying to change it from instant kill now |
| 04:21.16 | rrowland | Ideally I want my AI to rally to a position between all expos |
| 04:21.29 | latszer | nm, I think I know the problem |
| 04:21.29 | rrowland | Like you'd do in a real game |
| 04:22.24 | RodOfNOD | onetwo - i get it now its cast vs order duh |
| 04:22.42 | RodOfNOD | been awhile since i coded any of this stuff but it comes back fast |
| 04:23.46 | RodOfNOD | very good question latszer u just saved me hours of having to debug my own code for the future :> |
| 04:24.04 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:24.33 | RodOfNOD | i havent had much time to code as i have RL work but peeking in and answering questions really helps me ramp up :> |
| 04:24.39 | PointBlank | i'm off for a bit, will passively look for my name highlighted in red so if anyone needs me just say my name ;) |
| 04:24.50 | PointBlank | also if u can mention when servers come back online that'd be awesome |
| 04:24.51 | latszer | what question did I have? |
| 04:25.05 | latszer | just the whole thing? |
| 04:25.11 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 04:26.06 | RodOfNOD | thing about coding for wc3 at least and i suspect sc2 is not only do u have to know the language but u have to know the idiocycracys of the base game that dont always behave as one might expect |
| 04:26.34 | RodOfNOD | onetwo u coded for wc3 right? |
| 04:26.49 | latszer | wow now this isnt working anymore... |
| 04:27.08 | RodOfNOD | latszer did u add a debug message like i did |
| 04:27.16 | RodOfNOD | really helps to vamp up ur debug skills |
| 04:27.39 | RodOfNOD | assuming ur coded executes will get u into so much trouble |
| 04:28.09 | RodOfNOD | patch is up |
| 04:29.20 | onetwo | i did triggers for war3 |
| 04:29.21 | onetwo | etc |
| 04:29.37 | onetwo | Lol im actually going through my old map folder right now |
| 04:29.39 | RodOfNOD | ever play risk devolution? |
| 04:29.40 | onetwo | Enfos survival |
| 04:29.46 | onetwo | Cowiculas wilderness survival |
| 04:29.49 | onetwo | yeah i think so |
| 04:29.53 | onetwo | Defense of the ancients 2.90 |
| 04:29.54 | RodOfNOD | k that was my baby |
| 04:29.56 | onetwo | looks so shitty |
| 04:29.57 | onetwo | nice :D |
| 04:30.15 | heysparky | Hey - what does this error indicate... |
| 04:30.15 | onetwo | Cot RPG |
| 04:30.17 | heysparky | 'gt_O1SistersHassleBroodlord_Func': Execution took too long' |
| 04:30.21 | RodOfNOD | i helped a tiny bit with dota |
| 04:30.28 | RodOfNOD | but i wasnt a fan of the genre |
| 04:30.42 | rrowland | I think it means |
| 04:30.44 | rrowland | The execution |
| 04:30.46 | RodOfNOD | maybe an infinite loop? |
| 04:30.47 | rrowland | Took too long |
| 04:31.02 | rrowland | Which is usually when you forget to increment an iterator in a loop |
| 04:31.03 | RodOfNOD | paste the code |
| 04:31.10 | heysparky | ha very ha rrowland |
| 04:31.25 | onetwo | Risk Devolutoin 1.00 Beta |
| 04:31.26 | onetwo | is what i have |
| 04:31.27 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 04:31.30 | RodOfNOD | yea |
| 04:31.42 | latszer | got it, but there is still more work to be done |
| 04:31.52 | RodOfNOD | it will never end latszer :> |
| 04:31.59 | latszer | it was broken when I tried to detect the ability level |
| 04:32.15 | RodOfNOD | wow big patch or else my net is laggin |
| 04:32.36 | RodOfNOD | or else something else is impacting it |
| 04:32.46 | latszer | is it out of the question to add splash into my trigger? |
| 04:33.00 | RodOfNOD | u can fake splash |
| 04:33.10 | RodOfNOD | all nits in certain area get hit |
| 04:33.14 | heysparky | thanks, looking for errors... will paste if I can't work it out |
| 04:33.31 | RodOfNOD | damn anyone else stuck on the patch update at waiting for files to close? |
| 04:33.54 | RodOfNOD | nm i bet its GE |
| 04:33.56 | rrowland | Close editor etc imo |
| 04:33.58 | rrowland | lol |
| 04:34.02 | RodOfNOD | hate that |
| 04:34.04 | rrowland | Yeah editor uses the MPQs |
| 04:34.11 | heysparky | had that same thign happen |
| 04:34.13 | RodOfNOD | just tell me to close the damn editor blizzard |
| 04:34.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Chrono^ (~Chrono@c83-255-33-159.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 04:34.42 | onetwo | patch up, bnet down |
| 04:35.17 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 04:35.19 | RodOfNOD | so it appears |
| 04:35.23 | AV|AWAY | sex |
| 04:35.29 | RodOfNOD | gonna be fun to see blizzard have to support 20 million sc2 users |
| 04:35.32 | RodOfNOD | and noit crash |
| 04:35.39 | rrowland | 20 million? |
| 04:35.43 | rrowland | That's shooting a little high |
| 04:35.47 | RodOfNOD | thats my first year predicition |
| 04:35.50 | onetwo | more liek 200 million |
| 04:35.51 | AV|AWAY | lol |
| 04:35.51 | rrowland | WoW doesn't even have that many |
| 04:35.57 | xttocs | I was about to say the same thing |
| 04:35.58 | onetwo | but this is sc2 |
| 04:36.01 | RodOfNOD | dude there are like 5 million koreans alone that will play it |
| 04:36.02 | onetwo | SC2!!! |
| 04:36.04 | rrowland | Right |
| 04:36.10 | onetwo | more like 50 million koreans |
| 04:36.13 | rrowland | WoW > SC2 in terms of appeal to the general public |
| 04:36.13 | onetwo | get your numbers right |
| 04:36.14 | onetwo | !! |
| 04:36.18 | xttocs | This channel only has 100, pathetic. |
| 04:36.30 | onetwo | its cause WoW is more friendly, and appeals to girls more |
| 04:36.32 | onetwo | so right there |
| 04:36.34 | onetwo | you get huge customer base |
| 04:37.06 | onetwo | the brilliant thing about blizzard RTS's though is the custom games |
| 04:37.09 | onetwo | which isnt really marketed |
| 04:37.19 | onetwo | but its like whole different games within it |
| 04:37.33 | latszer | I cant find "units within certain area of "x" " |
| 04:37.47 | onetwo | unit - pick each unit in unit group |
| 04:37.53 | RodOfNOD | well there are only 70 million south koreans i highly doubt 75% will play |
| 04:37.56 | onetwo | take the unit group to be units in region matching condition |
| 04:37.58 | onetwo | and from then on |
| 04:38.01 | onetwo | hope youre good |
| 04:38.09 | onetwo | sorry i meant 500 million koreans |
| 04:38.30 | RodOfNOD | there arent that many :P |
| 04:38.31 | onetwo | :D |
| 04:39.05 | RodOfNOD | in any case there will be a shitload of people play sc2 :> |
| 04:39.17 | onetwo | i agree |
| 04:39.35 | onetwo | because theres the sc1 people too much into it to move into war3 |
| 04:39.37 | RodOfNOD | looking forward to playin micro clutter with the new units |
| 04:39.41 | onetwo | and then theres war3 people who naturally move to sc2 |
| 04:39.45 | onetwo | so now we get everyone together on here |
| 04:39.47 | RodOfNOD | wc3 had a fatal flaw |
| 04:39.48 | RodOfNOD | HEROES |
| 04:39.53 | onetwo | meh i loved it |
| 04:39.58 | RodOfNOD | i never ever played melee in wc3 |
| 04:40.05 | RodOfNOD | but i played tons of customs |
| 04:40.07 | onetwo | i did but was terrible back then |
| 04:40.08 | onetwo | totally |
| 04:40.11 | onetwo | thats what it was for |
| 04:40.21 | Fatal5101 | wc3 as an rts sucks |
| 04:40.26 | Fatal5101 | custom games are awesome tho |
| 04:40.31 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 04:41.01 | RodOfNOD | if they dont fix the ability to host custom games like normal though i will cry |
| 04:41.06 | onetwo | :/ |
| 04:41.17 | onetwo | while i do agree i dont want to see the 90% dota train |
| 04:41.20 | onetwo | i dont know what they can do |
| 04:41.40 | RodOfNOD | what do ui mean? |
| 04:41.49 | RodOfNOD | they can have actual genree selection |
| 04:41.56 | RodOfNOD | search by game name |
| 04:41.59 | RodOfNOD | all sorts of things |
| 04:42.11 | RodOfNOD | show me all risk maps |
| 04:42.12 | P_R_Deltoid | even then, I wouldn't count on dota being as popular, or games being as sparse |
| 04:42.24 | P_R_Deltoid | it's only like that on WC3 because not many people are still playing customs besides die-hard dotas |
| 04:42.27 | RodOfNOD | there will be ALOT of comp for dota |
| 04:42.42 | latszer | is there any way to turn a units position into a temporary point? |
| 04:42.48 | P_R_Deltoid | I think DOTA is trademarked by a man who develops for a different company |
| 04:42.57 | RodOfNOD | dota isnt trademarked |
| 04:43.01 | P_R_Deltoid | People who are playing dota will continue playing dota, what does starcraft 2 offer? |
| 04:43.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Are you certain of that? It was a fairly large franchise. |
| 04:43.12 | onetwo | better gfx |
| 04:43.16 | RodOfNOD | i am very certain |
| 04:43.22 | RodOfNOD | the guy who made it didnt tm it |
| 04:43.27 | RodOfNOD | noone else can step in and tm it |
| 04:43.27 | onetwo | he cant anyway right |
| 04:43.29 | onetwo | its owned by lizz |
| 04:43.31 | onetwo | blizz |
| 04:43.33 | RodOfNOD | risk devolution however is TM |
| 04:43.38 | RodOfNOD | not true |
| 04:43.38 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:43.41 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:43.41 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't think it's considered owned by blizz, but that has always been a grey area |
| 04:43.43 | RodOfNOD | bliz can talk about protection |
| 04:43.47 | RodOfNOD | but they dont own everyuthing |
| 04:43.55 | RodOfNOD | regardlress of their licesnse agreement |
| 04:44.24 | RodOfNOD | bottom line is in a year people will be fighting over names |
| 04:44.27 | P_R_Deltoid | onetwo, not neccisarily, unless you expect all the models to be replaced with SC2 models. |
| 04:44.29 | RodOfNOD | because there will be real money to be made |
| 04:44.30 | P_R_Deltoid | Which is kinda silly |
| 04:44.32 | Triceron | DOTA isn't owned |
| 04:44.34 | P_R_Deltoid | It just doesn't make too much sense |
| 04:45.07 | onetwo | i was just in war3 |
| 04:45.10 | onetwo | it looks like garbage |
| 04:45.12 | onetwo | compared to sc2 map |
| 04:45.13 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:45.13 | onetwo | s |
| 04:45.16 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 04:45.18 | RodOfNOD | i know |
| 04:45.18 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 04:45.31 | RodOfNOD | just like war3 > sc for graphics |
| 04:45.51 | onetwo | just logged in |
| 04:45.51 | RodOfNOD | and sc > war 2 |
| 04:45.54 | onetwo | bnet |
| 04:45.57 | onetwo | new name |
| 04:45.59 | onetwo | get your name fast |
| 04:46.01 | Triceron | war3 is dated |
| 04:46.01 | onetwo | if theyre unique |
| 04:46.48 | onetwo | lol i just got kicked out |
| 04:46.50 | onetwo | but i got my name |
| 04:46.51 | RodOfNOD | me too |
| 04:46.57 | RodOfNOD | hope it didnt screw my name |
| 04:46.57 | onetwo | couldnt play melee games |
| 04:46.59 | Triceron | got yur name? |
| 04:47.06 | RodOfNOD | yeah the reset the crap triceron |
| 04:47.28 | Triceron | Bnet servers got reset? |
| 04:47.32 | RodOfNOD | yea |
| 04:47.37 | RodOfNOD | again |
| 04:47.37 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 04:48.02 | Triceron | holy crap |
| 04:48.04 | Triceron | patch 15 already |
| 04:48.07 | P_R_Deltoid | what is the naming system? |
| 04:48.36 | P_R_Deltoid | RodOfNOD, they are both 3d, it's just the maount of polygons and shading. Most dota players don't really care about that and all the models will end up being changed. |
| 04:48.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Is there even a system for creating models on the ground of dropped items? I mean, it's missing large aspects of the hero part of dota. |
| 04:48.55 | Triceron | Polycounts aren't that high tbh |
| 04:49.00 | P_R_Deltoid | highER. |
| 04:49.10 | Triceron | compared to War3 yes, but compared to other RTS it's not really that high |
| 04:49.17 | RodOfNOD | agreed |
| 04:49.39 | onetwo | naming system is same as before |
| 04:49.40 | P_R_Deltoid | But I am only comparing it to war3... |
| 04:49.41 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 04:49.44 | onetwo | not sure if unique though |
| 04:49.46 | onetwo | cant login to publish |
| 04:49.49 | onetwo | says server is private |
| 04:49.50 | RodOfNOD | well mot sure what bliz will do with paid apps but people will just imnport wc3 models for non paid apps and use them |
| 04:50.11 | Fatal5101 | does this mean all the published maps got wiped/ |
| 04:50.12 | Fatal5101 | ? |
| 04:50.14 | P_R_Deltoid | So... people are going to pay for a dota because it's going to have bloom? |
| 04:50.14 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 04:50.16 | onetwo | i think paid maps is a step in the right direction |
| 04:50.18 | P_R_Deltoid | who is gonna pay for that? |
| 04:50.20 | onetwo | yes fatal |
| 04:50.24 | RodOfNOD | bloom? |
| 04:50.28 | onetwo | youd be surprised what people pay for on the iphone store |
| 04:50.29 | P_R_Deltoid | Who is even gonna bother paying 60 for it, when they could just play dota in wc3 |
| 04:50.32 | Fatal5101 | here is your chance to get your maps to the top! |
| 04:50.36 | Triceron | They're gonna play DOTA because it's DOTA |
| 04:50.39 | P_R_Deltoid | yes, bloom. The post processing effect. |
| 04:50.42 | RodOfNOD | they wont pay 60 |
| 04:50.45 | RodOfNOD | but they will pay $1 |
| 04:50.46 | Triceron | but that's not the only reason to play SC2, now, is it? |
| 04:50.50 | P_R_Deltoid | For starcraft 2, dude |
| 04:51.04 | RodOfNOD | i will pay $5 for any game i spend weeks playing |
| 04:51.06 | P_R_Deltoid | Still seems unlikely that dota in sc2 will matter that much |
| 04:51.21 | RodOfNOD | well there will be LOTS of dota games |
| 04:51.25 | Triceron | in the grand scheme, it might and it might not |
| 04:51.25 | RodOfNOD | just like lots of risk games |
| 04:51.28 | heysparky | haha, Rod, rrowland, user error - forgot to give spawning player resources and prereq building... o.O |
| 04:51.31 | RodOfNOD | im hoping to make a risk game people pay for |
| 04:51.41 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 04:51.41 | onetwo | well, if you spend months making a map... and then put it up for free... great |
| 04:51.48 | Triceron | I mean if you're talking from SC -> War3, who would've even thought of an AOS map being more popular than tower defense? |
| 04:51.49 | onetwo | but i could spend that time building an iphone app |
| 04:51.49 | onetwo | and make thousands of dollars |
| 04:51.57 | onetwo | mappers are just nice people i guess |
| 04:51.58 | RodOfNOD | agreed onetow |
| 04:52.10 | Fatal5101 | how old are you ONETWO?! |
| 04:52.22 | onetwo | without mappers, war3 would have died >< |
| 04:52.26 | RodOfNOD | totally agree |
| 04:52.31 | onetwo | im 22 |
| 04:52.33 | onetwo | whats up |
| 04:52.34 | Fatal5101 | oh |
| 04:52.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster pirate (~6036040b@gateway/web/freenode/x-kyeydfuidayugkcw) |
| 04:52.37 | Fatal5101 | just wondering |
| 04:52.38 | RodOfNOD | i literally spent 5 years of my life coding off and on |
| 04:52.41 | crazyfingers | You guys could make a cooking game and sell it if it was fun enough |
| 04:52.43 | onetwo | you seemed excited |
| 04:52.43 | RodOfNOD | for wc3 |
| 04:52.48 | onetwo | totally |
| 04:52.49 | onetwo | me too |
| 04:52.54 | Triceron | he's asking your a/s/l |
| 04:52.55 | onetwo | just for the love of it |
| 04:52.58 | crazyfingers | it's not about the mod type, it's the gameplay, polish, and graphics |
| 04:53.00 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 04:53.00 | onetwo | 22/male/vancouver |
| 04:53.01 | onetwo | call me |
| 04:53.08 | Fatal5101 | 14/f/fl |
| 04:53.09 | RodOfNOD | lol u live near triceron |
| 04:53.09 | Triceron | wow, you from Vanc too eh |
| 04:53.11 | crazyfingers | I say graphics because no one's going to pay for a map that doesn't have cool new graphics |
| 04:53.20 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:53.28 | onetwo | i would imagine a sinple player campaign with custom cinematics etc |
| 04:53.30 | PointBlank | canadians! |
| 04:53.30 | RodOfNOD | 45/male/seattle/NO I LIKE WOMEN! :> |
| 04:53.33 | onetwo | that blizz would feature |
| 04:53.37 | PointBlank | 23/m/victoria |
| 04:53.38 | PointBlank | mmm |
| 04:53.38 | onetwo | could charge |
| 04:53.39 | onetwo | or something |
| 04:53.50 | onetwo | i mean Apple runs your app when you submit to make sure its good |
| 04:53.51 | crazyfingers | I could see a single player game not selling well, needs buzz |
| 04:53.52 | onetwo | and then accepts |
| 04:53.56 | Fatal5101 | 21/m/Not from canada |
| 04:53.57 | onetwo | so blizz will probably do the same |
| 04:53.57 | RodOfNOD | people will pay for stuff they like its that simple |
| 04:54.00 | crazyfingers | high popularity and the multiplayer list brings buzz |
| 04:54.16 | heysparky | 35(tomorrow)/F/Los Angeles |
| 04:54.17 | Triceron | I should look into that iphone app thing. |
| 04:54.31 | Triceron | get-rich-quick is always nice |
| 04:54.32 | RodOfNOD | i am an iphone app maker |
| 04:54.35 | wacko|coding | 54 |
| 04:54.40 | Fatal5101 | female >_> |
| 04:54.42 | Fatal5101 | lies |
| 04:54.44 | P_R_Deltoid | Damn |
| 04:54.46 | P_R_Deltoid | let me get your number |
| 04:54.50 | onetwo | i think hey spark is lieing |
| 04:54.50 | P_R_Deltoid | B-) |
| 04:54.51 | RodOfNOD | havent released anything but spent many months working on some cool shit |
| 04:54.52 | onetwo | but i dont think |
| 04:54.53 | NeoDeathXp | where do maps DL to that you get from battle net? |
| 04:54.53 | onetwo | fatal is |
| 04:54.58 | crazyfingers | nah, people pay for stuff that has value. If you can't play it 20000 times they're not going to want to buy it, not as some mini game within starcraft, that's my take on it. Needs to be multiplayer, needs to be highly replayable |
| 04:54.59 | onetwo | <Fatal5101> 14/f/fl |
| 04:55.00 | heysparky | the difficult part about the app store is standing out |
| 04:55.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demo_ (~617f1c22@gateway/web/freenode/x-nvfugnszxrbhadsn) |
| 04:55.18 | onetwo | exposure |
| 04:55.18 | onetwo | is key |
| 04:55.22 | onetwo | thats the hard part |
| 04:55.24 | P_R_Deltoid | I just hope it isn't a spam fest |
| 04:55.28 | RodOfNOD | look at myst crazyfingers |
| 04:55.32 | crazyfingers | exposure takes care of itself if it's good enough |
| 04:55.36 | Demo_ | So "quick" question lol, I imported an image, how do I use it in triggers? |
| 04:55.42 | NeoDeathXp | I dunno my map is going to be free |
| 04:55.47 | onetwo | there could be too many though |
| 04:55.50 | onetwo | 100,000 |
| 04:55.51 | crazyfingers | myst? the oldschool rts? |
| 04:55.52 | onetwo | = hard to find stuff |
| 04:55.54 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 04:55.57 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 04:55.58 | NeoDeathXp | i have no intentions of selling it |
| 04:56.00 | RodOfNOD | not rts |
| 04:56.00 | heysparky | myst wans't an RTS... |
| 04:56.07 | RodOfNOD | myst the single player deal |
| 04:56.10 | heysparky | adventure/puzzle |
| 04:56.12 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 04:56.13 | heysparky | Myth was |
| 04:56.16 | P_R_Deltoid | Haha |
| 04:56.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Myst |
| 04:56.18 | NeoDeathXp | where do maps DL to that you get from battle net? |
| 04:56.19 | P_R_Deltoid | was a puzzle game |
| 04:56.20 | P_R_Deltoid | :) |
| 04:56.22 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 04:56.25 | crazyfingers | ohh, what about myst haha? Myst worked because people just got their computers and it was the only halfway decent game that could run on 'em |
| 04:56.31 | Demo_ | Heres the thing neo |
| 04:56.31 | crazyfingers | plus it looked super awesome for its time |
| 04:56.32 | RodOfNOD | people paid for it then they paid for it on the iphone |
| 04:56.36 | Demo_ | You may nto charge for your map |
| 04:56.41 | NeoDeathXp | Demo_: put it in a dialog box |
| 04:56.44 | Demo_ | But blizz may decide that your map should be premium |
| 04:56.48 | heysparky | it was an early and good use of 3d |
| 04:56.51 | Demo_ | It is |
| 04:56.54 | heysparky | that's what made it popular |
| 04:56.56 | Demo_ | but I can't find it in the images |
| 04:56.57 | latszer | can someone check this trigger? it should be splash damage trigger |
| 04:56.58 | latszer | http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=J8BSDF86 |
| 04:57.00 | heysparky | there were plenty of good games |
| 04:57.01 | NeoDeathXp | my map will be PIMP! |
| 04:57.05 | Triceron | I remember there was a radio shack |
| 04:57.11 | Triceron | that was selling Myst |
| 04:57.14 | Triceron | for $70 |
| 04:57.17 | Triceron | back in 2002 |
| 04:57.19 | heysparky | lol |
| 04:57.24 | Demo_ | I'm doing something similar to you, but I found yours after, and yours will be better by far |
| 04:57.25 | heysparky | Electronics Boutique |
| 04:57.56 | heysparky | Do any of you other oldsters remember Sentinel Worlds I: Future Magic? |
| 04:57.58 | crazyfingers | Haha, well, no one would pay a dollar for myst today. And look at myst 2, totally tanked, lost the whole feel of the original |
| 04:58.03 | Triceron | so is it possible to lock a map so far? |
| 04:58.10 | Triceron | I'm having issues publishing a map |
| 04:58.14 | Triceron | and locking it |
| 04:58.18 | Fatal5101 | could it be that b.net is down |
| 04:58.20 | RodOfNOD | u guys are too young to remember zork but zork rocked :> |
| 04:58.31 | heysparky | I was a trifle young for Zork |
| 04:58.37 | heysparky | but I played the heck outa Hack |
| 04:58.42 | Triceron | planning on Zork redux for SC2, Rod? :D |
| 04:58.45 | RodOfNOD | crazyfingers - paid $5 for myst on the iphone |
| 04:58.48 | Nuknfuts | you cant make a map public and locked... for now |
| 04:59.04 | Fatal5101 | dont you need a mac to make iphone apps |
| 04:59.07 | Nuknfuts | hopefully patch changes things, but they havent fixed anything the last 3 patches so im not keeping my hopes up |
| 04:59.10 | RodOfNOD | yes i am triceron |
| 04:59.17 | RodOfNOD | if i can get someone to make me some models... hint |
| 04:59.23 | Triceron | haha |
| 04:59.26 | RodOfNOD | gonna clal it zerk |
| 04:59.31 | RodOfNOD | call it |
| 04:59.50 | RodOfNOD | actually i have a 60 room game already made just need models and 300 more rooms |
| 04:59.54 | RodOfNOD | that is bsased on sc |
| 04:59.56 | crazyfingers | well, myst does have a nostalgia factor, but considering the simplicity of myst and all the viable formats that could support that type of game, i think it's safe to say that a myst game wouldn't work in SCII simply because it hasn't worked anywhere else in over a decade |
| 04:59.56 | RodOfNOD | based |
| 04:59.57 | heysparky | RodOfNod... I got your models... AaBbCcDdEe... |
| 05:00.21 | Triceron | I'll make you a Grue |
| 05:00.26 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
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| 05:00.36 | RodOfNOD | did i ever show u the pic of the grue i wanted made? |
| 05:00.41 | RodOfNOD | wonder if i could find that pic |
| 05:00.44 | RodOfNOD | it was wicked awesome |
| 05:00.53 | Demo_ | How do I make the file I imported available to the triggers etc etc |
| 05:00.57 | crazyfingers | One of my teachers worked on return to zork, he always loaded up videos to show how horrifyingly hard it was |
| 05:00.59 | heysparky | isn't the beauty of the grue NOT knowing what it looks like? |
| 05:01.11 | Triceron | I don't remember |
| 05:01.21 | Triceron | I can't remember anything past last tuesday |
| 05:01.22 | crazyfingers | m3 file? |
| 05:01.36 | heysparky | So nobody remembers Sentinel Worlds - freaking GREAT game |
| 05:01.38 | latszer | RodofNOD, I sent you a PM |
| 05:01.40 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:01.57 | pirate | can anyone explain what "backswing" is, as a value for weapons |
| 05:01.57 | RodOfNOD | hehe true heysparky |
| 05:02.03 | heysparky | I was sad there was never a Sentinel Worlds II, then Mass Effect came along... |
| 05:02.05 | onetwo | i dont know pirate |
| 05:02.08 | crazyfingers | can't say i do hehe |
| 05:02.09 | onetwo | i would like to know |
| 05:02.11 | Demo_ | :( |
| 05:02.11 | Fatal5101 | need more tower models >_< |
| 05:02.11 | onetwo | too |
| 05:02.18 | onetwo | wait for relese :D |
| 05:02.19 | onetwo | release |
| 05:02.22 | RodOfNOD | any of u guys ever heard of the CHORR? |
| 05:02.29 | pirate | it doesnt seemt to do anything |
| 05:02.39 | heysparky | nope Rod |
| 05:02.48 | RodOfNOD | its a sci fi book series |
| 05:02.56 | Demo_ | I know I talk too much' |
| 05:02.57 | RodOfNOD | thinking of working with the book writer on a rts using sc2 |
| 05:02.59 | Demo_ | How do I make the file I imported available to the triggers etc etc |
| 05:03.07 | RodOfNOD | what do u want to do with the file? |
| 05:03.17 | Demo_ | put it in a dialog box |
| 05:03.30 | Demo_ | it's an image |
| 05:03.42 | crazyfingers | you may need to save first |
| 05:03.45 | crazyfingers | that often does the trick |
| 05:03.46 | Demo_ | k |
| 05:03.49 | RodOfNOD | oh shit says invalid login when i try to login |
| 05:04.10 | heysparky | that's cool Rod |
| 05:04.14 | RodOfNOD | NOT GOOD blizzard please dont rape my acct |
| 05:05.15 | Nuknfuts | theres nothing invalid |
| 05:05.21 | Demo_ | that did it thanks |
| 05:05.21 | Nuknfuts | its just a typical message when its down |
| 05:05.35 | Triceron | Mass Effect was awesome |
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| 05:06.08 | pirate | is it possible to get the infinity symbol into a string of text in GE? |
| 05:06.13 | Triceron | it keeps saying bnet is down for me |
| 05:06.17 | Triceron | how are you even connecting |
| 05:06.30 | onetwo | i did for a moment |
| 05:06.31 | onetwo | earlier |
| 05:06.33 | onetwo | and made an acct |
| 05:06.35 | onetwo | then it kicked me off |
| 05:06.42 | onetwo | now it says |
| 05:06.45 | onetwo | cant connect |
| 05:06.54 | crazyfingers | eh, always takes 'em a bit to get things sorted out |
| 05:07.05 | onetwo | must be annoying |
| 05:07.07 | onetwo | all of us |
| 05:07.09 | onetwo | clammering at the login screen |
| 05:07.11 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:07.20 | crazyfingers | god only knows what they're testing/ what new issues they have |
| 05:07.33 | crazyfingers | I used to work at SOE, i know how this crap can go crazy |
| 05:07.39 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:09.29 | RodOfNOD | demo- how did u view the dds to actually pick it |
| 05:09.36 | RodOfNOD | i cant seem to get it to show up in the picker |
| 05:09.51 | crazyfingers | So a bit off topic, I'm debating getting my first real gig at a game company which would probably ruin my chances of making a super awesome SC II mod, or wondering if i should stick it out 6 more months living at home to make my own game :P |
| 05:09.55 | Triceron | oh wondering if anyone would know |
| 05:10.08 | Triceron | I have an issue with normal maps in .dds format. Seems to mess up the lighting |
| 05:10.19 | Triceron | I used a .tga and it was fine. Color map in .dds is fine. |
| 05:10.22 | onetwo | if the game company is blizz |
| 05:10.23 | onetwo | or valve |
| 05:10.24 | RodOfNOD | ask triceron thats his dilema |
| 05:10.25 | onetwo | go for it |
| 05:10.27 | crazyfingers | Triceron, i had the same issue |
| 05:10.36 | crazyfingers | i figured F it, just use a targa |
| 05:10.39 | crazyfingers | why not? |
| 05:10.50 | RodOfNOD | i actually THINK i solved that triceron |
| 05:10.55 | onetwo | hmm crazy |
| 05:10.57 | onetwo | i would go for it |
| 05:10.58 | Triceron | tgas use too much space up |
| 05:11.03 | RodOfNOD | i had to pick thecorrect format |
| 05:11.05 | onetwo | tbh the modding/mapping world |
| 05:11.05 | RodOfNOD | let me dig |
| 05:11.12 | onetwo | isnt good enough yet |
| 05:11.16 | onetwo | in terms of |
| 05:11.18 | crazyfingers | i'm pretty sure it has to do with the alpha map |
| 05:11.21 | Triceron | I used DXT5 8bit+alpha |
| 05:11.21 | onetwo | getting payback |
| 05:11.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:11.32 | Triceron | my normal map has no alpha |
| 05:11.35 | onetwo | plus you might not finish it and then youll be sad |
| 05:11.36 | Triceron | neither does my tga |
| 05:11.39 | Nuknfuts | anyone notice changes in the map editor since patch? |
| 05:11.59 | onetwo | let me check |
| 05:12.05 | onetwo | game variants and game attributes appear same |
| 05:12.19 | Nuknfuts | yeah |
| 05:12.29 | RodOfNOD | triceron i used dtx5 |
| 05:12.31 | RodOfNOD | and it worked |
| 05:12.34 | RodOfNOD | for terrain |
| 05:12.37 | RodOfNOD | though :p |
| 05:12.50 | RodOfNOD | cuz terrain was SO glossy if i didnt hehe |
| 05:12.54 | Triceron | I might try again |
| 05:12.59 | Triceron | well my problem |
| 05:13.19 | Triceron | was that it imported the .dds fine, but it looked all messed up in the editor |
| 05:13.26 | crazyfingers | at a cursory glance i see no difference |
| 05:13.34 | RodOfNOD | hmm |
| 05:13.37 | RodOfNOD | which texture? |
| 05:13.49 | Nuknfuts | still no lover for the editor :( |
| 05:13.52 | RodOfNOD | were u reskinning something? |
| 05:13.55 | Triceron | import editor showed it fine. In the editor tho, the lighting was messed. You face it down, it's dark. Turn the character to face up, it gets really bright. Normals totally wrecked. |
| 05:13.57 | Nuknfuts | i get this nagging feeling these things wont get fixed for some time |
| 05:14.09 | crazyfingers | yeah onetwo, i'm thinking of just going for it. I can always try to find time to mod in my off hours |
| 05:14.16 | Triceron | I was just swapping tgas for .dds. I even re-exported out of 3dsMax with the exporter |
| 05:14.16 | onetwo | totally |
| 05:14.17 | RodOfNOD | oh u mean ur 3ds |
| 05:14.20 | Triceron | and it works with color map |
| 05:14.20 | crazyfingers | starcraft ain't going anywhere |
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| 05:14.28 | Triceron | well the .m3 |
| 05:14.42 | Triceron | I can send you the map |
| 05:14.52 | RodOfNOD | well id suggest u ask skiz he seems to have a good grasp on this crap |
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| 05:15.14 | RodOfNOD | he not on though hehe |
| 05:15.19 | crazyfingers | well what's wrong with the normal, is the lighting just coming from the wrong direction? |
| 05:15.24 | crazyfingers | or is it totally borked? |
| 05:15.26 | Triceron | I think skiz was just using .tgas |
| 05:15.32 | Triceron | cuz they work too |
| 05:15.37 | RodOfNOD | ic |
| 05:15.39 | Triceron | I just like to optimize |
| 05:15.42 | RodOfNOD | agreed |
| 05:15.50 | crazyfingers | Word on the street is blizz is releasing their own art tools at some point |
| 05:15.54 | crazyfingers | i'd just use targas for now |
| 05:15.59 | RodOfNOD | i got a terrain tile which took up like 600k to be 60 when i made it 8 bit hehe |
| 05:16.02 | crazyfingers | if you need to lower quality versions |
| 05:16.02 | onetwo | editor looks same |
| 05:16.05 | Triceron | I need map protection really bad tho |
| 05:16.25 | RodOfNOD | i understand that tric |
| 05:16.28 | crazyfingers | i thought there was map protection |
| 05:16.35 | crazyfingers | just lock it? |
| 05:16.38 | Triceron | you gotta publish on bnet to lock it |
| 05:16.41 | Triceron | and bnet is down |
| 05:16.46 | crazyfingers | ahh |
| 05:16.49 | Triceron | and I'm having issues publishing as well |
| 05:18.12 | rrowland | lol APM spamming in windowed mode |
| 05:18.19 | rrowland | Clicked out and selected all my code like 10 times |
| 05:18.26 | rrowland | And replaced chunk by chunk with 123 |
| 05:22.48 | Fatal5101 | would i set the Period between attacks to .3 if i wanted it to do 200 attacks a minute? |
| 05:22.49 | heysparky | how do you grant supply to a player? Set Property doesn't seem to do it |
| 05:23.38 | onetwo | yes Fatal |
| 05:25.11 | onetwo | (200 attacks / 60 seconds) = 3.33333 attacks/ 1 sec... but since you want sec per attack, reverse order so its 1 sec / 3.33333 attacks aka 0.3 |
| 05:25.16 | onetwo | thats how i check my math |
| 05:25.17 | onetwo | atleast |
| 05:25.26 | Fatal5101 | well you are smart |
| 05:25.33 | Fatal5101 | i am special |
| 05:25.38 | onetwo | :D |
| 05:26.14 | crazyfingers | why not just ask if .5 would do 2 attacks a second? :P |
| 05:26.26 | heysparky | Will this raise the supply ceiling for a player to 200? Or do I need something else? |
| 05:26.27 | heysparky | Player - Modify player 4 Supplies Limit: Set To 200 |
| 05:26.28 | Fatal5101 | because i know it does |
| 05:26.35 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:26.41 | onetwo | probably sparky |
| 05:26.41 | crazyfingers | oh, haha |
| 05:26.41 | heysparky | (is that just the same as the regular limit) |
| 05:26.53 | onetwo | not sure |
| 05:27.01 | onetwo | maybe theres a field under gameplay data |
| 05:27.03 | onetwo | under data editor |
| 05:27.06 | onetwo | to change it sparky |
| 05:27.09 | onetwo | if that doesnt work |
| 05:27.37 | heysparky | well, I don't really care to chnage the limit |
| 05:27.42 | heysparky | I want the room |
| 05:27.45 | heysparky | if that makes sense |
| 05:28.10 | heysparky | does that just specify how much room I'm allowed? |
| 05:28.29 | onetwo | cant confirm |
| 05:28.45 | heysparky | well, I think it's the latter |
| 05:28.47 | heysparky | boo |
| 05:35.52 | P_R_Deltoid | what are you trying to do? |
| 05:35.57 | P_R_Deltoid | Give players default 200 food? |
| 05:36.36 | Dustin | wtf did bnet just patch |
| 05:36.39 | AV|AWAY | why cant you just set a unit to give 200 food |
| 05:36.40 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:37.13 | onetwo | yeah to Dustin |
| 05:37.14 | onetwo | that is |
| 05:37.16 | P_R_Deltoid | also a possibility |
| 05:37.30 | P_R_Deltoid | but why do you need to give them 200 food |
| 05:37.31 | AV|AWAY | make a actor less unit so its invivible |
| 05:37.34 | P_R_Deltoid | is what I don't understand |
| 05:37.43 | AV|AWAY | yeah |
| 05:38.16 | Dustin | oh damn they character whiped again to |
| 05:38.34 | P_R_Deltoid | aww wtf they buffed reapers |
| 05:38.35 | P_R_Deltoid | sux |
| 05:38.39 | AV|AWAY | lol |
| 05:38.43 | Nuknfuts | why not just raise the food limit in the de |
| 05:38.50 | P_R_Deltoid | nerfed tanks though. Hah, fuck mech. |
| 05:38.50 | Fatal5101 | http://i.imgur.com/bGIQ4.png |
| 05:38.55 | Fatal5101 | my 3 stage auto turret~! |
| 05:38.55 | onetwo | patch up, bnet down |
| 05:39.01 | P_R_Deltoid | aw what it is? |
| 05:39.04 | AV|AWAY | sex |
| 05:39.05 | onetwo | wow cool fatal |
| 05:39.06 | P_R_Deltoid | I was just getting ready to play some sweet shit |
| 05:39.15 | onetwo | Func |
| 05:39.16 | onetwo | Func! |
| 05:39.16 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:39.20 | Fatal5101 | making that last upgrade was super easy now since you helped me out with that last one |
| 05:39.21 | AV|AWAY | my auto turret looks better than your auto turret |
| 05:39.24 | AV|AWAY | SO :P |
| 05:39.24 | P_R_Deltoid | tf2? |
| 05:39.32 | P_R_Deltoid | You are making a tf2 mod, arn't you |
| 05:39.33 | P_R_Deltoid | or, tf mod |
| 05:39.34 | onetwo | my auto turret brings all the boys to the yard |
| 05:39.37 | onetwo | well im done here |
| 05:39.38 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:39.41 | P_R_Deltoid | You should add parts when it gets upgraded |
| 05:39.43 | AV|AWAY | lol |
| 05:39.46 | P_R_Deltoid | just attach random cool looking units |
| 05:39.47 | Fatal5101 | i wish i could figure what is causing that trigger error |
| 05:39.55 | Fatal5101 | the trigger works fine any everything |
| 05:39.56 | AV|AWAY | WHERE THE FUCK IS RROWLAND |
| 05:40.00 | Fatal5101 | and* |
| 05:40.01 | P_R_Deltoid | Dead. |
| 05:40.01 | onetwo | rrowland? |
| 05:40.04 | onetwo | kind of rowland? |
| 05:40.06 | onetwo | king* |
| 05:40.10 | onetwo | k i really am done |
| 05:40.11 | P_R_Deltoid | That "func" error? |
| 05:40.11 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:40.13 | AV|AWAY | I NEED TO TELL HIM FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!! :P |
| 05:40.17 | Fatal5101 | well its more to it then that |
| 05:40.18 | PointBlank | fatal5101 what are you doing about the footprints of the increased size turrets? |
| 05:40.24 | onetwo | can you paste in the func error |
| 05:40.25 | onetwo | here |
| 05:40.27 | onetwo | ill know right away |
| 05:40.35 | AV|AWAY | grumble at his dota map 0.o |
| 05:40.36 | onetwo | i think hes just leaving them |
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| 05:40.39 | onetwo | its already 2x2 i think |
| 05:40.40 | Fatal5101 | footprint size is not getting any bigger |
| 05:40.44 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:41.06 | onetwo | paste it in fatal and ill see |
| 05:41.11 | onetwo | or i guess type it in |
| 05:41.13 | onetwo | cause you cant paste |
| 05:41.17 | heysparky | because I don't want to CHANGE the Supply limit |
| 05:41.21 | heysparky | I want to grant supply |
| 05:41.28 | Fatal5101 | way to long |
| 05:41.30 | Fatal5101 | ill pastebin it |
| 05:41.36 | PointBlank | but fatal5101 won't that look horrible when they overlap right beside each other? |
| 05:41.43 | onetwo | or show whole image |
| 05:41.46 | AV|AWAY | yes |
| 05:41.49 | onetwo | pointblank i think |
| 05:41.50 | onetwo | theres enough room |
| 05:41.55 | Fatal5101 | yeah |
| 05:41.58 | Fatal5101 | there is enough room it looks fine |
| 05:42.11 | AV|AWAY | im trying to make the untis and shit for my map 0.o |
| 05:42.12 | Fatal5101 | http://pastebin.com/CcBw4GHL |
| 05:42.13 | AV|AWAY | GAH!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:42.27 | onetwo | no fatal i mean the error |
| 05:42.30 | Fatal5101 | im getting Nested iteration detected |
| 05:42.30 | onetwo | the screenshot |
| 05:42.33 | P_R_Deltoid | what are End? |
| 05:42.45 | AV|AWAY | regions? |
| 05:42.47 | P_R_Deltoid | Just curious |
| 05:42.47 | onetwo | regions |
| 05:42.47 | AV|AWAY | DUH |
| 05:42.48 | P_R_Deltoid | I mean |
| 05:42.51 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, I mean |
| 05:42.53 | P_R_Deltoid | Eh nevermind |
| 05:42.58 | AV|AWAY | lol |
| 05:43.33 | Fatal5101 | well thats the pastebin of the whole trigger and thats the error im getting |
| 05:43.36 | Fatal5101 | the whole thing works fine |
| 05:43.58 | Fatal5101 | other then that im having 1 more issue with another trigger. but i know what the problem is just dont know how to fix it |
| 05:44.10 | onetwo | trigger error in next lane func |
| 05:44.14 | onetwo | nested iteration detected |
| 05:44.15 | onetwo | k time to look |
| 05:44.25 | Fatal5101 | you also have a copy of the map :) |
| 05:44.32 | Fatal5101 | if you want to test a fix |
| 05:44.33 | onetwo | im in it atm |
| 05:44.55 | onetwo | k first off |
| 05:44.58 | onetwo | i would make your conditioons |
| 05:45.00 | onetwo | inside an AND |
| 05:45.05 | onetwo | cause ive had mine not work right |
| 05:45.07 | onetwo | without it |
| 05:45.13 | onetwo | even if you think by default |
| 05:45.14 | onetwo | itll and them |
| 05:45.54 | onetwo | okay youre using a switch statement |
| 05:45.57 | onetwo | ill have to look closely |
| 05:46.02 | onetwo | cause i do if/then |
| 05:46.06 | onetwo | so i know that works |
| 05:46.12 | Atlos | hmm, what do you think is the best way of picking up items? |
| 05:46.16 | Atlos | attaching a region to your hero |
| 05:46.20 | Fatal5101 | walking to it |
| 05:46.24 | Fatal5101 | and picking it up is pretty effective |
| 05:46.26 | Atlos | and then detecting when the item enters the region? |
| 05:46.30 | Atlos | you can do that? |
| 05:46.38 | Fatal5101 | >_< i dont know |
| 05:46.43 | onetwo | items have a unit |
| 05:46.44 | onetwo | attached to them |
| 05:46.46 | onetwo | so yeah |
| 05:47.02 | heysparky | Ah.... Deltoid, Nuk, I see what you mean... a little hacky, I think. But somewhat appropriate to what I'm trying to do |
| 05:47.03 | Atlos | I'm not using the inventory system that all the tutorials show though |
| 05:47.08 | Atlos | I'm using a dialog system |
| 05:47.15 | P_R_Deltoid | Wait, what? I didn't say anbything |
| 05:47.32 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh, the "attach random shit to it" plan? |
| 05:47.36 | heysparky | back up there you said to give food to a unit? |
| 05:47.37 | heysparky | right? |
| 05:47.38 | P_R_Deltoid | I am certain it will work flawlessly. |
| 05:47.41 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh |
| 05:47.42 | P_R_Deltoid | That. |
| 05:47.45 | P_R_Deltoid | Why do you need food? |
| 05:47.49 | P_R_Deltoid | Like, a food count |
| 05:47.54 | onetwo | k sorry fatal i cant figure it out |
| 05:48.01 | onetwo | i havent used functions or switch statements like this |
| 05:48.04 | onetwo | so i cant get into it |
| 05:48.05 | onetwo | easily |
| 05:48.10 | heysparky | oh nvm, you didn't suggest that |
| 05:48.41 | onetwo | could be a function related issue |
| 05:48.45 | onetwo | or IF inside of a switch |
| 05:48.48 | onetwo | havent used either so cant say |
| 05:48.54 | onetwo | looks correct trigger wise though |
| 05:48.57 | onetwo | since it works |
| 05:49.14 | Fatal5101 | i wonder if there is a way to hide trigger errors in game |
| 05:49.16 | P_R_Deltoid | I suggested attaching stuf fto stuff. That is my one suggestion for everything |
| 05:49.16 | Fatal5101 | so others wont see it |
| 05:49.26 | P_R_Deltoid | If it can't be solved with attaching spinecrawlers to things, it ain't a problem. |
| 05:49.28 | Atlos | I think there is |
| 05:49.31 | Atlos | under the hide UI |
| 05:49.37 | Atlos | action or w/e |
| 05:49.51 | onetwo | well id try switching from switch statement |
| 05:49.56 | onetwo | to a bunch of if/then/else |
| 05:49.58 | onetwo | just to test |
| 05:50.02 | onetwo | if that changes nothing |
| 05:50.03 | onetwo | then hide it |
| 05:50.04 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:50.12 | Fatal5101 | didnt want to have to remake the whole trigger |
| 05:50.14 | Fatal5101 | but i will |
| 05:50.16 | onetwo | yeah :/ |
| 05:50.18 | Fatal5101 | nothing better to do |
| 05:50.25 | Atlos | I never really liked using switches... |
| 05:50.27 | P_R_Deltoid | You could change this entire thing, I think, to a Do statement |
| 05:50.35 | AV|AWAY | switches rock |
| 05:50.37 | Fatal5101 | do statement O.o |
| 05:50.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah. |
| 05:50.47 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 05:50.57 | heysparky | Fatal |
| 05:50.59 | heysparky | before you do that |
| 05:51.10 | heysparky | riddle that thing with Text Messages |
| 05:51.13 | heysparky | so you can see what's firing |
| 05:51.16 | P_R_Deltoid | Erm, For. Sorry. |
| 05:51.17 | heysparky | or NOT firiing |
| 05:51.32 | casperb | Any way to get the screen resolution? |
| 05:51.35 | AV|AWAY | if you get a error message YOU SHOULD FIX IT :P |
| 05:51.40 | Fatal5101 | the whole entire trigger runs fine |
| 05:51.44 | P_R_Deltoid | casperb, not yet, I don't think. |
| 05:51.45 | Fatal5101 | i have did the text messages |
| 05:51.48 | P_R_Deltoid | SOmeone asked earlier |
| 05:52.03 | heysparky | I guess I missed it, what's the error? |
| 05:52.04 | P_R_Deltoid | You can have the person playing enter it or smething. That is the only option I've heard so far, and it seems really complicated. |
| 05:52.10 | Atlos | uggh, I hate dealing with the data editor and all that shit, somebody want to make me a health pack lol? |
| 05:52.11 | Fatal5101 | Nested Iteration |
| 05:52.17 | AV|AWAY | casperb you could make users click the screen edges... maybe |
| 05:52.31 | Fatal5101 | "Nested interation detected" |
| 05:52.36 | onetwo | fatal has a switch statement with if statements inside each switch option |
| 05:52.44 | Fatal5101 | what he said |
| 05:52.46 | onetwo | and each if inside the switch does some function calls |
| 05:52.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Either way, you're gonna get screwed by dumb users clicking the wrong shit |
| 05:52.57 | P_R_Deltoid | People not knowing their res or misclicking or in general being dumb |
| 05:53.04 | pirate | BLEARG. Has anyone made an infantry flamethrower weapon (like making one for a marine)? I'm currently using a weapon with an ammo unit, and setting the ammo units model as hellions attack model. Is there any better way to do this (so itll look better?) |
| 05:53.21 | P_R_Deltoid | You could compact this entire thing into one if and one for I think |
| 05:53.27 | P_R_Deltoid | Fatal5101, what map is this? |
| 05:53.30 | P_R_Deltoid | Is it up for download? |
| 05:53.36 | Fatal5101 | Not yet |
| 05:53.37 | P_R_Deltoid | On Mapster. |
| 05:53.43 | onetwo | its gonna be great though |
| 05:53.51 | P_R_Deltoid | is it a race of some sort? |
| 05:53.53 | P_R_Deltoid | Looks like a race. |
| 05:53.56 | onetwo | line |
| 05:53.57 | AV|AWAY | what is is it? |
| 05:54.02 | onetwo | thats my hint |
| 05:54.13 | P_R_Deltoid | THat is an awful hint |
| 05:54.16 | AV|AWAY | line wars? |
| 05:54.18 | AV|AWAY | lol |
| 05:54.19 | onetwo | it was popular in war3 |
| 05:54.28 | P_R_Deltoid | Hero line wars? |
| 05:54.32 | onetwo | almost |
| 05:54.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Tower line wars |
| 05:54.39 | onetwo | almost |
| 05:54.41 | Fatal5101 | lol |
| 05:54.43 | AV|AWAY | i didnt play wc3 |
| 05:54.43 | P_R_Deltoid | A HYBRID? |
| 05:54.44 | P_R_Deltoid | :o |
| 05:54.47 | onetwo | Line Tower Wars |
| 05:54.48 | P_R_Deltoid | WC3 had the best customs |
| 05:54.52 | AV|AWAY | HERO TOWER LINE WARS |
| 05:55.02 | P_R_Deltoid | They had everything Starcraft 2 has so far |
| 05:55.02 | AV|AWAY | right |
| 05:55.09 | P_R_Deltoid | I am waiting for someone to REALLY impress me |
| 05:55.15 | P_R_Deltoid | folding my arms irl |
| 05:55.19 | AV|AWAY | lol |
| 05:55.26 | AV|AWAY | im working on it |
| 05:55.29 | Fatal5101 | have you seen Ignorances Sentry Scramble? |
| 05:55.35 | P_R_Deltoid | Nope? |
| 05:55.39 | Fatal5101 | its amazing |
| 05:55.42 | AV|AWAY | it hurts my eyes |
| 05:55.44 | AV|AWAY | :( |
| 05:55.46 | Fatal5101 | i love it |
| 05:55.47 | AV|AWAY | i played it |
| 05:55.58 | AV|AWAY | one with the fire right? |
| 05:56.00 | Fatal5101 | ye |
| 05:56.01 | Fatal5101 | p |
| 05:56.07 | AV|AWAY | hurts my eyes |
| 05:56.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Is it on mapster? |
| 05:56.09 | AV|AWAY | :P |
| 05:56.11 | AV|AWAY | no |
| 05:56.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Well then |
| 05:56.24 | AV|AWAY | people have maps that will never be on mapster |
| 05:56.26 | P_R_Deltoid | Can I see it in action in any other way than bnet |
| 05:56.30 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, fuck them |
| 05:56.31 | P_R_Deltoid | >:( |
| 05:56.41 | P_R_Deltoid | if it ain't on hive or mapster, then I don't give a FUCK |
| 05:56.42 | AV|AWAY | no becasue people work hard on shit |
| 05:56.47 | onetwo | the reason i never uploaded infection onto mapster |
| 05:56.53 | onetwo | is cause i fix bugs on a daily basis |
| 05:56.55 | Fatal5101 | Im just to lazy to do whatever i need to do to upload it |
| 05:57.02 | onetwo | and that too |
| 05:57.09 | AV|AWAY | I dont want my shit stolen |
| 05:57.10 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 05:57.12 | Fatal5101 | ^^^\ |
| 05:57.12 | P_R_Deltoid | Is there a video |
| 05:57.15 | Fatal5101 | that right there |
| 05:57.20 | P_R_Deltoid | You are all too paranoid. |
| 05:57.25 | Fatal5101 | not that i do anything ground breaking |
| 05:57.26 | Fatal5101 | thats for sure |
| 05:57.27 | AV|AWAY | not really |
| 05:57.42 | casperb | actually think i have a nasty hack for screen resolution |
| 05:57.53 | AV|AWAY | whats that |
| 05:58.01 | P_R_Deltoid | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDHJIdTJhyo |
| 05:58.02 | AV|AWAY | if its a full screen dialog box it wont work |
| 05:58.03 | P_R_Deltoid | is it this? |
| 05:58.06 | AV|AWAY | i tried it |
| 05:58.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, it's this |
| 05:58.10 | P_R_Deltoid | I can tell |
| 05:58.17 | AV|AWAY | yeah |
| 05:58.21 | P_R_Deltoid | is this like pacman kinda |
| 05:58.49 | Fatal5101 | i need to make a flame tower |
| 05:58.49 | P_R_Deltoid | I am... unimpressed |
| 05:58.52 | P_R_Deltoid | still crossing my arms |
| 05:58.53 | Fatal5101 | that uses that fire effect |
| 05:58.55 | casperb | Create an empty screen buttom at the bottom right corner, you then can get the width,height of the screen buttom dialog |
| 05:58.58 | Fatal5101 | not that weak helion model |
| 05:59.01 | P_R_Deltoid | in fact, I have no idea how I typed in "sentry scramble" to watch this video |
| 05:59.12 | AV|AWAY | watch my videos :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArkNgnhQhkQ and my map gen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HZOpr1GnJk |
| 05:59.13 | AV|AWAY | LOL |
| 05:59.37 | P_R_Deltoid | did you have to upload that graph paper background? |
| 05:59.56 | AV|AWAY | you mean import it to the map? yes |
| 05:59.59 | onetwo | hahahahah cool! |
| 06:00.04 | P_R_Deltoid | I like this art style |
| 06:00.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Impressive |
| 06:00.15 | P_R_Deltoid | Last time I im,ported custom graphics, I got an error :( |
| 06:00.31 | onetwo | lol i was just deleting stuff on my desktop |
| 06:00.34 | onetwo | and i found this image i linked here before |
| 06:00.42 | onetwo | on Infection |
| 06:00.43 | onetwo | http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3968/hilariousd.jpg |
| 06:00.44 | onetwo | of when my lighting went nuts accidently |
| 06:00.47 | onetwo | enjoy that art style |
| 06:00.51 | AV|AWAY | http://i47.tinypic.com/1zwke10.jpg |
| 06:01.29 | AV|AWAY | http://i50.tinypic.com/mc8z1s.jpg |
| 06:01.32 | P_R_Deltoid | Hah. Nice purple trees |
| 06:01.33 | AV|AWAY | SS are old though :P |
| 06:01.41 | Fatal5101 | Who wants to make me a flame tower? |
| 06:01.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Too bad the boxes arn't raised |
| 06:02.03 | AV|AWAY | I could... |
| 06:02.05 | AV|AWAY | i might |
| 06:02.05 | onetwo | he could make them raised |
| 06:02.08 | onetwo | you should |
| 06:02.11 | onetwo | because your ingame models |
| 06:02.12 | AV|AWAY | idono |
| 06:02.12 | onetwo | are 3d |
| 06:02.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Was gonna suggest that! |
| 06:02.16 | AV|AWAY | yeah |
| 06:02.17 | onetwo | dont want to contradict |
| 06:02.20 | onetwo | otherwise everything has to be flat |
| 06:02.21 | onetwo | images |
| 06:02.21 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:02.30 | P_R_Deltoid | Make them cliffs 8-) |
| 06:02.33 | P_R_Deltoid | or... just models |
| 06:02.35 | P_R_Deltoid | vOv |
| 06:02.42 | onetwo | take the crate model |
| 06:02.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Is that all lighting or edited models? |
| 06:02.43 | AV|AWAY | cant randomly generate cliffs :P |
| 06:02.48 | onetwo | customize its texture and then stretch |
| 06:02.51 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:02.53 | P_R_Deltoid | you can't? |
| 06:02.54 | P_R_Deltoid | Weird. |
| 06:02.55 | AV|AWAY | its all custom textures |
| 06:03.01 | P_R_Deltoid | Nice |
| 06:03.14 | AV|AWAY | I need more walls though |
| 06:03.23 | AV|AWAY | I need to make custom models |
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| 06:04.02 | P_R_Smelltoid | weird |
| 06:04.06 | P_R_Smelltoid | I dunno why that happens |
| 06:04.15 | P_R_Smelltoid | Question still stands! |
| 06:04.25 | AV|AWAY | what question |
| 06:04.30 | P_R_Smelltoid | <P_R_Deltoid> hey onetwo, got any videos of your map? |
| 06:04.35 | AV|AWAY | lol |
| 06:04.38 | AV|AWAY | well goodnight |
| 06:04.39 | onetwo | which one? |
| 06:04.40 | onetwo | Infection? |
| 06:04.42 | P_R_Smelltoid | Infection |
| 06:04.42 | P_R_Smelltoid | Yeah |
| 06:04.44 | P_R_Smelltoid | Goodnight, AV|AWAY |
| 06:04.46 | onetwo | uh nope |
| 06:04.49 | AV|AWAY | tomorrow i should have zombies in my map |
| 06:04.50 | P_R_Smelltoid | You suck >:( |
| 06:04.55 | P_R_Smelltoid | Gonna use terran? |
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| 06:07.47 | Fatal5101 | i need a 'If - Then If - Else" |
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| 06:08.08 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:08.35 | P_R_Smelltoid | Fatal5101, what is "NextPlayer? |
| 06:09.06 | onetwo | function that returns |
| 06:09.10 | onetwo | the next player beside you |
| 06:09.11 | onetwo | i believe |
| 06:09.13 | Fatal5101 | yep |
| 06:09.17 | Fatal5101 | and if that person is not there |
| 06:09.20 | onetwo | if youre 12 for instance |
| 06:09.21 | Fatal5101 | it gets the next person |
| 06:09.21 | onetwo | thatd be 1 |
| 06:09.25 | onetwo | if youre 2 |
| 06:09.27 | onetwo | itd be 3 |
| 06:09.42 | Fatal5101 | but if 3 4 and 5 are not there it would give you 6 |
| 06:10.19 | onetwo | one thing i think you should do Fatal |
| 06:10.21 | onetwo | if youre not already |
| 06:10.26 | onetwo | is change the system for special towers |
| 06:10.31 | onetwo | i didnt like getting wisps and then moving them |
| 06:10.35 | onetwo | to a random type |
| 06:10.36 | P_R_Smelltoid | what is the max number of players |
| 06:10.37 | P_R_Smelltoid | ? |
| 06:10.37 | onetwo | not knowing what it did |
| 06:10.47 | Fatal5101 | 7 |
| 06:10.49 | onetwo | better if you just perhaps have a special build menu, maybe command card 3 |
| 06:10.53 | onetwo | that has requirements |
| 06:11.29 | onetwo | like super lighting tower requires basic one |
| 06:11.32 | onetwo | so you build up tech through tiers |
| 06:11.41 | onetwo | and if you screw up you can still start building in another specialty path |
| 06:11.47 | onetwo | thats just my opinion though |
| 06:12.07 | Fatal5101 | Gonna take me awhile to get to that point anyways |
| 06:12.10 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:12.11 | onetwo | k |
| 06:12.18 | Fatal5101 | learning as i go |
| 06:12.35 | Fatal5101 | spent most of the day getting that tower to upgrade |
| 06:13.13 | onetwo | bnet up |
| 06:13.17 | Fatal5101 | awesome |
| 06:13.22 | Fatal5101 | we should all play my awesome map |
| 06:13.43 | Fatal5101 | its got 5 monsters to send and 4 towers ! |
| 06:14.03 | Clord | aka not ready yet |
| 06:14.04 | Clord | lol |
| 06:14.12 | Fatal5101 | oh its ready |
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| 06:15.12 | Clord | I mean you sound like you are rushing it out |
| 06:15.14 | Clord | lol XD |
| 06:15.35 | Fatal5101 | nope |
| 06:16.04 | onetwo | ugh |
| 06:16.06 | onetwo | publisher put my map up |
| 06:16.07 | onetwo | as 0.1 |
| 06:16.08 | Nuknfuts | servers uppppppppppppp |
| 06:16.10 | onetwo | when i selected 1.0 |
| 06:16.16 | Nuknfuts | yay |
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| 06:17.30 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03Sholdak * r90 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor/bin/: Removing binary files |
| 06:17.43 | onetwo | something new: |
| 06:17.50 | onetwo | re-uploading now displays all versions |
| 06:17.52 | onetwo | in my published list |
| 06:17.54 | onetwo | on create game |
| 06:18.12 | Fatal5101 | can you remove previously published maps |
| 06:18.18 | Fatal5101 | so if u put a new version out and you want people to play that |
| 06:18.22 | Fatal5101 | instead of the old |
| 06:18.50 | Reactorex | Crap D: |
| 06:18.56 | Reactorex | I lost my nick password on freenode. |
| 06:19.40 | onetwo | you have to remove all |
| 06:19.44 | onetwo | from manage pulbished |
| 06:19.45 | onetwo | i beleive |
| 06:19.51 | P_R_Smelltoid | hmmm |
| 06:19.54 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03Sholdak * r91 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (49 files in 5 directories): (Message trimmed by 5 lines) |
| 06:19.56 | Repo | - Lots of code refactoring |
| 06:19.57 | Repo | - Terrain rendering no longer generates a lot of temp images. Should be faster and more accurate. |
| 06:19.59 | Repo | - Added parsing of Core/Liberty/Map modules. |
| 06:20.00 | Repo | - Separated BaseData from XML (stored in SC2XMLDocument). BaseData now has a reference to it's XML entry in a document. Allowed binding of tree nodes directly to XMLEntries (for XML-only editing). |
| 06:20.08 | Reactorex | You can remove all except the most recent version instead of removing every single one, too. |
| 06:20.12 | PointBlank | yay servers online |
| 06:20.16 | PointBlank | gonna up my map |
| 06:20.27 | Triceron | yay |
| 06:20.32 | Triceron | gonna try logging on now |
| 06:20.51 | P_R_Smelltoid | So |
| 06:20.52 | P_R_Smelltoid | this trigger |
| 06:20.54 | P_R_Smelltoid | Fatal5101, |
| 06:21.01 | P_R_Smelltoid | is to move units that reach the end to the next lane? |
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| 06:21.30 | Fatal5101 | yes |
| 06:22.09 | Atlos | what's the best way to use the road tool? I see a lot of people making nice roads but I can't get them lined up correctly |
| 06:22.21 | P_R_Smelltoid | can I see the nextplayer trigger? |
| 06:22.22 | Fatal5101 | still get that error if i dont use a switch |
| 06:22.37 | Fatal5101 | i think it just does not like if statements inside of ifstatements |
| 06:22.42 | P_R_Smelltoid | I can end that |
| 06:22.43 | Fatal5101 | ill send you the whole map if you want |
| 06:22.44 | P_R_Smelltoid | if you help me out |
| 06:22.47 | P_R_Smelltoid | Sure |
| 06:22.49 | Fatal5101 | kk |
| 06:22.51 | Fatal5101 | 1 sec |
| 06:23.50 | PointBlank | alrighty my melee map uploaded fine |
| 06:23.54 | PointBlank | but my UMS didn't |
| 06:24.10 | PointBlank | i get a "lost connection to gateway" anyone have insight? |
| 06:24.39 | rrowland | I've had that before and then it uploaded anyway |
| 06:24.41 | Triceron | so *is* it possible to publish a locked map? I keep hearing mixed stuff |
| 06:24.51 | P_R_Smelltoid | not a 3rd party locked |
| 06:24.55 | P_R_Smelltoid | because you can't open it! |
| 06:24.57 | P_R_Smelltoid | heh |
| 06:25.16 | rrowland | You can't publish locked if you want it public |
| 06:25.55 | heysparky | haha |
| 06:25.58 | heysparky | struck me funny |
| 06:26.08 | Nuknfuts | that still true after the patch? |
| 06:26.15 | heysparky | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6609857/Trigger%20Nihilism.jpg |
| 06:26.20 | wacko|coding | 351351 |
| 06:26.40 | PointBlank | testing locked thing now, but can't get file to upload :S |
| 06:26.59 | wacko|coding | yea, the publishing locked will force the map to be private sadly |
| 06:27.03 | Triceron | I just need to know if it's possible to lock a map |
| 06:27.11 | Triceron | I don't need to publish on bnet to play |
| 06:27.16 | wacko|coding | yea it is |
| 06:27.27 | Triceron | awesome, thanks |
| 06:27.44 | wacko|coding | if you publish locked it just means you will not be able to open the from Battle.net |
| 06:28.05 | wacko|coding | and that you will not be able to open certain parts if you were to open it from the Battle.net cache |
| 06:30.41 | Triceron | you can still open it in editor right? |
| 06:30.49 | Triceron | but not change anything |
| 06:31.11 | wacko|coding | if its locked no, it will not have the trigger data and the native script will be obfuscated |
| 06:31.11 | Sixen | vjeux! you around? |
| 06:31.14 | Sixen | hey wacko |
| 06:31.36 | wacko|coding | you will need to still open from the local file |
| 06:31.42 | PointBlank | triceron: first test with uploading melee map, set default variants and i still can'tm ake it public |
| 06:31.44 | heysparky | does the pick each integer loop automatically increment the variable or do I need a += in there? |
| 06:31.45 | wacko|coding | Battle.net is not a storage system for your maps |
| 06:31.56 | PointBlank | for both locked and unlocked ... seems i'm missing something |
| 06:32.00 | Clord | locking system is not intended to prevent public lobbies.... it is just major bug |
| 06:32.06 | wacko|coding | yes it is |
| 06:32.19 | wacko|coding | and I am sure they will fix it before the game comes out |
| 06:32.27 | Triceron | well all I'm doing |
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| 06:32.34 | Triceron | is adding custom stuff to a blank map |
| 06:32.41 | Clord | they 100% surely keep fixing stuff while servers are down for next phase of beta |
| 06:32.49 | Triceron | and i want to prevent that custom stuff from being able to be extracted/exported out of the map |
| 06:32.54 | Triceron | like you can see it, you can play it |
| 06:32.59 | Triceron | you just can't take it apart |
| 06:33.09 | Clord | yeah there is tutorial maps for that |
| 06:33.12 | wacko|coding | well come of it they will be able to take |
| 06:33.12 | Clord | if someone wants to learn |
| 06:33.14 | wacko|coding | terrain |
| 06:33.16 | wacko|coding | game data |
| 06:33.20 | wacko|coding | object placement |
| 06:33.25 | wacko|coding | locked or unlocked |
| 06:33.35 | PointBlank | anyone get a map with "other" variants uploaded? |
| 06:33.47 | wacko|coding | what is this other issue |
| 06:33.56 | wacko|coding | like You should not need to create a variant anymore |
| 06:34.00 | wacko|coding | the issue before was |
| 06:34.00 | PointBlank | I can only get a map with default variants map upped - and it can't be opened to public either |
| 06:34.08 | wacko|coding | the Custom variant that was added to map |
| 06:34.14 | wacko|coding | would prevent the map from being made public |
| 06:34.17 | Clord | their publishing primer guide indicates that they didn't test to make sure locked maps work right XD |
| 06:34.27 | Clord | because they just typed like it works |
| 06:34.29 | wacko|coding | now the editor adds a Other variant by default and that will allow public |
| 06:34.38 | wacko|coding | really Clord |
| 06:34.42 | wacko|coding | link to that plz |
| 06:34.48 | Sixen | =/ |
| 06:34.57 | Sixen | It's in the Map Dev forum, Wacko. I think Zarhym posted. |
| 06:34.59 | Clord | so you don't read stickies do you? XD |
| 06:35.02 | wacko|coding | I am to fucking lazy |
| 06:35.13 | Sixen | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25026453020&sid=5000 |
| 06:35.24 | Sixen | Zarhym doesn't develop GE, he's a CM. He posts what he's told to post, :P |
| 06:36.05 | wacko|coding | where does it say that they did not test it ? |
| 06:36.16 | Sixen | He's being smart :P |
| 06:36.16 | Clord | also they can just lazy way |
| 06:36.18 | Clord | copy that post |
| 06:36.21 | Clord | for retail forums |
| 06:36.22 | Clord | XD |
| 06:36.28 | Clord | so it is ready |
| 06:36.28 | Clord | lol |
| 06:36.43 | wacko|coding | I want to know Clord where they said that ? |
| 06:36.48 | wacko|coding | they did not test the locked feature |
| 06:37.53 | Clord | they didn't indicate in their post that they have tested maps as locked and try to make public lobby |
| 06:38.01 | Clord | because otherwise they would tell it is bugged |
| 06:38.03 | Clord | d'oh |
| 06:38.17 | wacko|coding | lol |
| 06:38.23 | PointBlank | alright got a melee map up fine now ... the UMS won't allow me to upload tho :S |
| 06:38.30 | wacko|coding | I think your wrong :P |
| 06:38.53 | Fatal5101 | OneTwo |
| 06:39.05 | heysparky | trigger folk - I've made a function that takes a larva spawner, a morph order and a rally point. It's a really hamfisted generator. |
| 06:39.13 | Clord | well... as I know |
| 06:39.17 | Clord | now everyone is made to play chess |
| 06:39.18 | Clord | ;) |
| 06:39.20 | Clord | not |
| 06:39.26 | Reactorex | wacko|coding: I did some testing; I've not been able to open locked maps to public. |
| 06:39.35 | wacko|coding | it is a bug at the moment |
| 06:39.36 | Reactorex | But maps that are exactly the same and not locked can be opened to public. |
| 06:39.42 | Sixen | Yeah reactor, it's a bug with th ebeta :P |
| 06:39.46 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 06:39.49 | Reactorex | I thought as much. |
| 06:40.11 | Clord | if they would have tested it in live servers first... they would have knew from that bug before giving that locking feature to us |
| 06:40.12 | Clord | XD |
| 06:40.19 | Clord | that was the damn point what I made |
| 06:40.21 | Reactorex | If it were a feature rather than a bug, I'd go 'wtf?' xD |
| 06:40.28 | wacko|coding | yea its not that easy Clord :P |
| 06:40.38 | Clord | but we are in beta |
| 06:40.39 | heysparky | how can I get it to stop spawning without using an int or a bool |
| 06:40.41 | Sixen | then again, this *is* beta for a reason |
| 06:40.41 | Clord | so we tested it :) |
| 06:40.43 | heysparky | oh... a duration? |
| 06:40.45 | heysparky | that might do it |
| 06:40.45 | Sixen | WE'RE supposed to catch those bugs :P |
| 06:41.02 | Clord | bah |
| 06:41.20 | Clord | wacko does not understand what I say so meh...... whatever |
| 06:41.25 | Reactorex | I hope we'll get an 'add ability' function. :D |
| 06:41.34 | Reactorex | Clord, I think wacko does. :O |
| 06:41.35 | wacko|coding | I think I understand this way more than you do :P |
| 06:42.15 | onetwo | i padded infection |
| 06:42.16 | onetwo | reactorex |
| 06:42.18 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:42.20 | Reactorex | Ossum. |
| 06:42.21 | onetwo | to get it seeded |
| 06:42.24 | heysparky | adding abilities comes iwth all sorts of baggage tho... I suppse you could have command card parameters in it... |
| 06:42.24 | Reactorex | I'm coming on to play. |
| 06:42.24 | onetwo | worm is so fun |
| 06:42.25 | Reactorex | :D |
| 06:42.28 | onetwo | we had a bug though |
| 06:42.29 | onetwo | 3rd round |
| 06:42.31 | onetwo | i couldnt pick any guns |
| 06:42.33 | onetwo | until i got to tier 2 |
| 06:42.34 | Reactorex | O.o |
| 06:42.35 | onetwo | then it opened up |
| 06:42.38 | onetwo | not a big deal |
| 06:42.42 | Reactorex | Did all of the guns open up? |
| 06:42.42 | onetwo | but weird |
| 06:42.45 | Reactorex | Or just the T2 guns? |
| 06:42.46 | onetwo | just tier 2 |
| 06:42.48 | onetwo | then when i clicked on one |
| 06:42.49 | Reactorex | Hrm. |
| 06:42.50 | onetwo | they all did |
| 06:42.51 | onetwo | except tier 3 |
| 06:42.54 | onetwo | so it went to normal |
| 06:42.59 | onetwo | my round-end trigger |
| 06:43.02 | onetwo | must be doing too much |
| 06:43.08 | Atlos | arrrg wtf I just tried changing the textures in my map and now the 3 I changed won't work |
| 06:43.14 | Reactorex | Think you know where it probably was? |
| 06:43.15 | Atlos | yet that video made it seem so easy lol |
| 06:43.20 | Reactorex | Round-end or round-start probably did it. |
| 06:43.23 | wacko|coding | what are we talking about ? |
| 06:43.30 | Reactorex | OneTwo's map. xP |
| 06:43.41 | onetwo | im done for tonight though |
| 06:43.45 | onetwo | have to work tomorrow |
| 06:44.11 | Reactorex | Are you in pacific time zone? |
| 06:44.15 | onetwo | yes |
| 06:44.17 | Clord | I have noticed also something else silly in battle.net interface |
| 06:44.25 | Reactorex | You seem to always only be on when it's really late for me :P |
| 06:44.27 | Clord | unless you host your map to list |
| 06:44.30 | Clord | people have really hard time to find it |
| 06:44.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:44.34 | wacko|coding | yea |
| 06:44.36 | onetwo | cause its summer |
| 06:44.38 | onetwo | i work part time |
| 06:44.41 | onetwo | so im usually on |
| 06:44.44 | onetwo | all the time |
| 06:44.45 | Clord | they need to use search and know what to search to even select map for hosting |
| 06:44.52 | wacko|coding | yea |
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| 06:44.54 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:45.02 | Reactorex | Mhm. |
| 06:45.24 | Clord | because unless there is at least one match played last hour.. it does not appear to popular list |
| 06:45.27 | Clord | XD |
| 06:45.27 | Reactorex | I'm hoping for a working "Recently Played" on create games and a search feature as well as multiple sort methods for join games list. |
| 06:45.42 | Odonen | anyone using an inventory on one of their maps? |
| 06:45.47 | Clord | that whre they suggest to do achievements with button click |
| 06:45.55 | Clord | it would be nice it picks random low popularity map |
| 06:45.58 | Clord | and suggest to join it |
| 06:45.59 | Clord | XD |
| 06:46.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:46.04 | Clord | per user |
| 06:46.09 | Clord | imagine if thousands log in |
| 06:46.12 | Clord | and get randomly picked maps |
| 06:46.13 | Clord | =) |
| 06:46.17 | Baron | Oh man, rrowland I already knew about that map, I didn't know you made it xD |
| 06:46.19 | Baron | That's awesome |
| 06:46.27 | rrowland | Didn't make it |
| 06:46.31 | rrowland | Just brought it to US |
| 06:46.36 | Baron | Aw :( Still awesome |
| 06:46.38 | Reactorex | Which map? |
| 06:46.42 | Baron | DotA |
| 06:46.42 | rrowland | dota |
| 06:46.46 | Reactorex | Haha, thought so. |
| 06:46.46 | Reactorex | xD |
| 06:46.54 | Reactorex | That's epicsauce. :P |
| 06:47.06 | Clord | there is free alternatives |
| 06:47.07 | Clord | lol |
| 06:47.12 | Clord | and they are coded to be DotA like |
| 06:47.13 | Reactorex | Anyone know if flash objects in sc2 also give off their sound? |
| 06:47.26 | wacko|coding | what do you mean ? |
| 06:47.44 | Reactorex | It looked to me from what I saw that flash objects can be used in sc2. |
| 06:47.47 | Reactorex | For dialogs. |
| 06:47.49 | heysparky | when are we gonna see a dota v1.1? |
| 06:48.04 | wacko|coding | they cannot be used by users Reactorex |
| 06:48.05 | Baron | Oh yeah, hey rrowland maybe you could help me out. I have a unit with a turret where it's supposed to be able to move while firing as long as the target is within the turret's arc, but if I give the unit a move order it doesn't fire, even though the weapon is set to allow movement. |
| 06:48.35 | Reactorex | If they can't be used by users.. how can they be implemented? |
| 06:49.03 | wacko|coding | because Blizzard can use them :P but you can't |
| 06:49.14 | Clord | so far this editor lacks actual campaign support |
| 06:49.20 | Clord | in sense how they do them |
| 06:49.22 | Clord | XD |
| 06:49.29 | Clord | yet we have triggers what they can only use |
| 06:49.46 | wacko|coding | there are some that are disabled I am sure for a good reason |
| 06:50.03 | wacko|coding | I mean the amount is less than 10 |
| 06:51.01 | PointBlank | anyone know how to beat this "Lost connection to gateway" error? |
| 06:51.09 | wacko|coding | no |
| 06:51.44 | wacko|coding | get a better internet connection |
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| 06:53.28 | `3ICE | has a female guest. |
| 06:53.28 | Reactorex | PointBlank, try again. |
| 06:53.33 | Reactorex | It's done that to me once or twice. |
| 06:53.33 | Clord | hmmm... I add immortal to fortress fight as super super super tank |
| 06:54.00 | Clord | it just stays there and takes all hits |
| 06:54.02 | Clord | ^^ |
| 06:54.24 | Reactorex | wacko|coding: that means that we can't upload custom shockwave flash files and play them? |
| 06:54.32 | wacko|coding | correct |
| 06:54.36 | Reactorex | Bawh. |
| 06:54.58 | Triceron | uh oh |
| 06:55.02 | Triceron | my SC2 editor is crashing |
| 06:55.06 | Triceron | after patch :S |
| 06:55.19 | wacko|coding | nice |
| 06:55.27 | Reactorex | Which modules do you have open when turning on the editor? |
| 06:55.29 | Reactorex | Terrain module? |
| 06:55.38 | Triceron | just terrain I figure |
| 06:55.45 | Reactorex | And do you have a map that it opens automatically? |
| 06:55.46 | Triceron | but I can't tell because it'd look like it's loaded |
| 06:55.49 | Triceron | then it crashes itself |
| 06:55.55 | Triceron | no, no map on autoload |
| 06:56.00 | PointBlank | wacko reactorex it gets to 0 52 or 84 then fails ... if I change my variants to be the default ones it uploads fine |
| 06:56.14 | Reactorex | O.op |
| 06:56.34 | Reactorex | So it doesn't say anything about "Header is corrupt" - only "Lost connection to gateway" |
| 06:56.40 | PointBlank | yup |
| 06:56.55 | Reactorex | I've never seen anything like that before. |
| 06:57.02 | Reactorex | But I haven't seen a lot, either. |
| 06:57.30 | PointBlank | switched it to default melee and now it gets to 32 and fails lolz |
| 06:57.36 | PointBlank | is their server just finicky or what? |
| 06:57.43 | wacko|coding | yes |
| 06:59.27 | Reactorex | A little, pointblank. |
| 06:59.41 | Reactorex | But it depends on both connections, not just theirs. |
| 07:00.35 | PointBlank | you'd think if i had a problem i'd lag in games or d/c from irc |
| 07:00.59 | Reactorex | Not necessarily. |
| 07:01.47 | PointBlank | well assuming it's using TCP |
| 07:01.53 | PointBlank | it's kind of hard to have a shitty connection |
| 07:02.00 | PointBlank | pretty tolerant of failure |
| 07:02.26 | PointBlank | the only way I see it failing is if the Blizz servers get overwhelmed and drop you |
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| 07:03.05 | Triceron | I've been dropped from a game once |
| 07:03.12 | Triceron | luckily custom game |
| 07:03.28 | Triceron | I'd be pissed if it were a ranked match |
| 07:04.01 | Triceron | I have a 2:1 win lose ratio, don't want that droooed lower cuz of a DC |
| 07:05.45 | PointBlank | k well after the 10th try |
| 07:05.46 | PointBlank | it uploaded |
| 07:05.53 | PointBlank | hopefully they fix that crap |
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| 07:06.49 | Clord | their publishing server stability is going down in EU again |
| 07:06.50 | Clord | XD |
| 07:07.27 | heysparky | If reaper jump uses the same mover for jumping up and jumping down why would jumping up look smoother than jumping down on my cliff-jumping Queen? |
| 07:07.56 | heysparky | specifically when she jumps from 90 to 270 |
| 07:07.59 | heysparky | upwards |
| 07:08.26 | heysparky | when jumping any other heading and elevation, she twitches all over the place |
| 07:19.45 | Xaestro | anybody got experience with the StringExternal() function? |
| 07:20.04 | `3ICE | i hate externalizing my strings. |
| 07:20.11 | Xaestro | lol |
| 07:20.48 | `3ICE | but they are stored at SC2Map\enUS.SC2Data\LocalizedData\GameStrings.txt |
| 07:20.58 | `3ICE | if you want to look at them in raw text :) |
| 07:21.16 | Xaestro | Yea, i'm trying to display some text to the screen |
| 07:21.37 | `3ICE | put words between "quote marks" is way better than StringExternal()... |
| 07:21.40 | Xaestro | but i wanna access Button/Hotkey/Queen in the GameStrings.txt inside the... |
| 07:21.51 | `3ICE | good luck with that :o |
| 07:22.32 | Xaestro | Mods\Liberty.SC2Mod\enUS.SC2Data MPQ |
| 07:22.35 | `3ICE | When I make maps I just ignore all the localizations and use english. |
| 07:22.35 | Xaestro | haha thanks |
| 07:22.51 | `3ICE | if they didn't get the enUS version, their problem not mine |
| 07:22.59 | Xaestro | haha dangit thanks |
| 07:23.09 | `3ICE | blizzard and it's translation mania... :sigh: |
| 07:23.24 | Xaestro | indeed |
| 07:23.45 | `3ICE | imagine the difficulties a german modder will face |
| 07:23.52 | `3ICE | all his buttons are translated to german! |
| 07:24.01 | `3ICE | how the hell will he follow tutorials... |
| 07:24.18 | `3ICE | because the translations have one common property: |
| 07:24.21 | `3ICE | they are bad |
| 07:24.29 | `3ICE | mistranslated, confusing, etc |
| 07:24.34 | Xaestro | true |
| 07:24.37 | Xaestro | but it's still beta |
| 07:24.48 | `3ICE | war3 editor is all the same |
| 07:24.53 | Xaestro | *maybe* they'll get translators |
| 07:24.57 | `3ICE | localized versions of it were terrible |
| 07:25.02 | Xaestro | eesh |
| 07:25.25 | `3ICE | crazy stuff like Locátióné 001 instead of Region 001 |
| 07:25.40 | `3ICE | yeah, my french is bad :) |
| 07:25.49 | Xaestro | lol it's better than mine |
| 07:28.19 | Nuknfuts | is there any way to export data from data editor to a mod? |
| 07:28.27 | `3ICE | copy-paste |
| 07:28.27 | Nuknfuts | i hate trying to test things in a mod -_-- |
| 07:28.33 | Nuknfuts | really? |
| 07:28.40 | `3ICE | yeah, should work :) |
| 07:29.02 | `3ICE | or just add it as a dependency |
| 07:29.15 | `3ICE | h/o |
| 07:30.18 | `3ICE | file --> dependencies --> add other |
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| 07:38.37 | Nuknfuts | yeah i know |
| 07:38.45 | Nuknfuts | did the patch make any changes to lobbies / lock&unlock? |
| 07:38.53 | heysparky | gnight folks |
| 07:39.04 | `3ICE | http://bit.ly/ae5PmH |
| 07:39.08 | `3ICE | patch 14 changes |
| 07:39.26 | Lyrrad | are the servers back up? |
| 07:41.23 | Nuknfuts | yeas |
| 07:42.04 | Nuknfuts | looks like no changes -__- |
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| 07:44.49 | Clord | idle hoster should be auto kicked |
| 07:44.59 | Clord | they an bring down 100 matches played last hour to zero |
| 07:45.00 | Clord | XD |
| 07:45.15 | `3ICE | they still have not fixed that? |
| 07:45.15 | Clord | can |
| 07:45.16 | `3ICE | wow |
| 07:45.21 | Clord | yeah not fixed that |
| 07:45.22 | `3ICE | i thought that was fixed |
| 07:45.29 | Clord | Knighto went just today idle in my fortress fight lobby |
| 07:45.41 | `3ICE | heh |
| 07:45.51 | `3ICE | get 100 beta keys and fill the idle hoster's games |
| 07:45.56 | Clord | what is more stupid in this system is that... it does not random between possible open lobbies |
| 07:45.57 | Clord | XD |
| 07:46.03 | Clord | so hosting second lobby not help |
| 07:46.28 | `3ICE | maps will break next patch anyway |
| 07:46.38 | Nuknfuts | we wont be around by then :-/ |
| 07:46.56 | `3ICE | yes that was a joke |
| 07:47.02 | `3ICE | maps won't break (hopefully) |
| 07:47.13 | Clord | I just took screenshot of lobby bug lol |
| 07:47.17 | Clord | all colors was visually same |
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| 07:47.21 | Clord | but names was right |
| 07:48.30 | Nuknfuts | its as though blizzard forgot how to develop battle.net after all these years |
| 07:48.43 | `3ICE | yup... |
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| 08:01.13 | Lyrrad | There is no way that they are going to leave b.net as it is right now |
| 08:01.22 | `3ICE | meh |
| 08:01.30 | Nuknfuts | well they cant... it'd be a step back to before starcraft 1 even |
| 08:01.38 | `3ICE | yup |
| 08:01.40 | Nuknfuts | but then again, blizzard works so damn slow |
| 08:01.43 | Lyrrad | its a set back for d1 |
| 08:02.00 | Nuknfuts | i wouldnt be surprised if servers barely worked week 1 ~_~ |
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| 08:02.07 | Nuknfuts | at least editor + campaign should be entertaining... |
| 08:02.31 | Lyrrad | I don't remember the servers being bad for wc3 |
| 08:02.42 | Lyrrad | They were nearly unplayable for a week with d2 tho |
| 08:02.51 | Nuknfuts | wow was unplayable for like a month |
| 08:02.59 | Nuknfuts | granted those games were hosted on b.nets own server |
| 08:03.15 | Lyrrad | I didn;t play WoW in the first month |
| 08:03.16 | Nuknfuts | sc2 is just a match making service this time 'round isnt it |
| 08:03.20 | Nuknfuts | good you got lucky |
| 08:04.04 | Lyrrad | Well it was released just before final exams, and by that time I decided to wait for christmas |
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| 08:06.38 | Nuknfuts | well you avoided a clusterf*ck |
| 08:06.44 | Nuknfuts | there were queues of 100's of players |
| 08:06.49 | Nuknfuts | and each server was divided into time zones -_- |
| 08:07.05 | Nuknfuts | and when you got in after that whole line, chances were thta you'd be d/c'd and back in line in 5 mins |
| 08:10.45 | Clord | WoW even with huge launch problems really recovered from it was because Blizzard made game |
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| 08:10.46 | Clord | and because there was no serious competition of that quality in MMO market |
| 08:10.46 | Clord | lol |
| 08:11.07 | Clord | back then if people didn't play WoW it meant going to worser MMO what looked amazing before it |
| 08:12.08 | Triceron | that looked amazing? |
| 08:12.20 | Triceron | what pre WoW MMO looked amazing? |
| 08:12.38 | Grum | Asheron's Call 2 looked really good for its time :) |
| 08:12.45 | Triceron | O_o |
| 08:12.54 | Nuknfuts | i was partial to EQ and definitely not for its graphics |
| 08:13.03 | Clord | Triceron... read again... I meant WoW looked amazing |
| 08:13.06 | Clord | not stuff before it |
| 08:13.11 | Clord | XD |
| 08:13.15 | Clord | at least me it hooked in |
| 08:13.36 | Grum | i still think wow looks really good compare to next-gen mmos |
| 08:13.46 | Triceron | WoW certainly hasn't held up to its age, but it's got a style that's sorta timeless |
| 08:13.51 | Grum | you can push polygons in models etc but if you dont have the feeling the world is 'filled/complete' then it still smells |
| 08:14.01 | Clord | WoW is somewhat like Facebook lol |
| 08:14.04 | Clord | I mean |
| 08:14.09 | Clord | it just defines genre now |
| 08:14.11 | Triceron | it really is |
| 08:14.13 | Clord | so it stays there |
| 08:14.14 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:14.20 | Grum | yeah wow's fantasy setting allows so much more artistic freedom which makes its world a richer place |
| 08:14.33 | Triceron | it's a great hub for social networking |
| 08:14.37 | Grum | and its amazing to see how they spiced up old cities for cata |
| 08:14.43 | Triceron | which makes me wonder what the hell they're thinking wtih Bnet2.0 |
| 08:15.07 | Triceron | I'm going back for Cata |
| 08:15.09 | Grum | it just adds their flavored network to everything |
| 08:15.11 | Triceron | just to see the changed landscape |
| 08:15.29 | Triceron | nothing new interests me. It's weird that it's the old stuff that's bringing me back in. |
| 08:15.29 | Grum | i cant wait to fly over the old continent! |
| 08:15.45 | Grum | its going to be beyond epic |
| 08:15.46 | Clord | there is more than just landscapes redone |
| 08:15.49 | Clord | it adds more areas |
| 08:15.52 | Clord | more quests to even old areas |
| 08:15.54 | Clord | revamp stuff |
| 08:15.57 | Grum | yeah but no-one cares for that ;D |
| 08:15.59 | casperb | more gear :P |
| 08:16.01 | Grum | well not as much though :) |
| 08:16.01 | Triceron | I don't even care about end game content for Cata |
| 08:16.06 | Clord | oh and level 85 |
| 08:16.10 | Grum | i just care for the endgame content :p |
| 08:16.12 | Triceron | I just wanna level up in the revamped areas |
| 08:16.18 | Grum | yeh that will be cool as well |
| 08:16.27 | Clord | people will care of new content of lower levels as there gonna be goblin and werewolf flood |
| 08:16.27 | Clord | XD |
| 08:16.35 | Triceron | that's where my best memories of WoW were |
| 08:16.38 | Triceron | leveling up |
| 08:16.49 | casperb | battle grounds <3 |
| 08:16.55 | Clord | of course because almost entire content is tied to leveling up areas |
| 08:17.02 | Clord | XD |
| 08:17.22 | Triceron | they need to revamp player models tho |
| 08:17.26 | Triceron | REALLY BADLY. |
| 08:18.06 | casperb | Soo my units are coming back from the back all frankensteiny :S |
| 08:18.09 | Clord | yeah... female night elves are not something to look at and male blood elves have their ugly beauty |
| 08:18.10 | Clord | XD |
| 08:18.11 | casperb | from the bank * |
| 08:18.12 | Nuknfuts | sadly MMOs have lost a lot of the memory ability |
| 08:18.22 | Nuknfuts | hard time remembering much of what existed in wow cept end game stuff |
| 08:18.42 | Clord | but top of all |
| 08:18.43 | Triceron | I loved some of the old dungeons |
| 08:18.44 | Clord | female tauren |
| 08:18.49 | Triceron | but they were horridly designed as well |
| 08:18.51 | Clord | that creation is frankenstein |
| 08:19.00 | casperb | Can't remember anything story wise from WoW except that everyone needed stuff killed, most often 20 of a certain kind of mob :P |
| 08:19.15 | Clord | casperb... that is because there is no main storyline really |
| 08:19.20 | Clord | it is just stuff what you do for locals mostly |
| 08:19.21 | Clord | XD |
| 08:19.38 | Clord | you are not asked to deal problems like some general in stuff what devastates enviorment |
| 08:19.38 | Triceron | there were some neat story moments, but a lot of it is 'get this' 'kill that' |
| 08:19.38 | Clord | XD |
| 08:19.39 | casperb | which is why it blows (IMHO) :P |
| 08:20.00 | Triceron | the missing diplomat stuff was neat |
| 08:20.07 | Triceron | how you're looking for a missing noble |
| 08:20.16 | Triceron | and it happened to the freakin king of stormwind |
| 08:20.18 | Reactorex | casperb: It follows the WarCraft universe storyline. |
| 08:20.38 | Clord | if there would march AI a rmies across persistent worlds taking over place after place until players kill them |
| 08:20.40 | Clord | it would rock |
| 08:20.42 | Reactorex | It doesn't have its own independent story. |
| 08:20.54 | Reactorex | It follows on after the other parts of the WarCraft series. |
| 08:20.57 | Triceron | Warhammer Online sorta had that |
| 08:20.59 | Reactorex | (Or so it appears.) |
| 08:21.07 | casperb | Have a couple of 70s, just saying that the story telling kinda sucks in the game |
| 08:21.07 | Triceron | with the outdoor PVP stuff |
| 08:21.30 | Clord | that is nothing what I mean.. those are just shared quests |
| 08:21.36 | Reactorex | Not in WC1/2/3. >:3 |
| 08:21.37 | Clord | I mean dynamic like in tabula rasa |
| 08:21.38 | Clord | XD |
| 08:21.50 | Reactorex | The WarCraft RTSes had brilliant story. |
| 08:21.56 | casperb | hell yeah |
| 08:22.10 | Triceron | Warcraft 3 was really awesome |
| 08:22.14 | casperb | right up there with FF7 |
| 08:22.19 | Triceron | I kinda hate how WoW's lore undid a lot of what War3 set |
| 08:22.20 | Reactorex | I liked WarCraft 2 the most, personally. |
| 08:23.04 | Clord | warcraft 2 was consept how multiplayer should work |
| 08:23.05 | Clord | lol |
| 08:23.31 | Triceron | War2 was the best |
| 08:23.47 | Triceron | I used to listen to the soundtrack so much |
| 08:24.07 | Triceron | that one day my dad was walking by my room and was whistling one of the tunes |
| 08:24.31 | Clord | they learnt few things from there like... it is ideal that main structure is not required to be built as players do absolutely nothing than chat meantime usually and.... having no starting workers is stupid decision as players would build them in first anyways |
| 08:24.49 | Nuknfuts | the original War1/2 story was pretty unique |
| 08:24.56 | Nuknfuts | the War 3 story ended up biting off Middle Earth |
| 08:25.07 | Nuknfuts | oh hey lets sail off to the west where there are magical and powerful elves |
| 08:25.15 | Nuknfuts | and there's also a sunken kingdom along the way aka numenor |
| 08:25.18 | Triceron | I still remeber the mission with Lothar's death |
| 08:25.26 | casperb | hmph why does my unit loose all abilities on save >:( |
| 08:25.28 | Triceron | being so pissed that he died |
| 08:25.28 | Nuknfuts | the original war 1 / 2 story and lore however was pretty damn unique |
| 08:25.33 | Nuknfuts | yeah lol |
| 08:25.43 | Triceron | and I'd keep loading the mission and trying to type in the cheat codes as fast as I can |
| 08:25.52 | Triceron | so he wouldn't die |
| 08:25.57 | Nuknfuts | the war 3 engine was terrible as an RTS, but for RPGs and stuff it was so awesome |
| 08:26.00 | Clord | warcraft III... how that human king got owned |
| 08:26.03 | Clord | embrassing lol |
| 08:26.28 | Triceron | yeah, war3 wasn't optimized for the hugeass armies |
| 08:26.38 | Triceron | I liked Dawn of War for that |
| 08:26.44 | Nuknfuts | well not just that, but as a competitive game |
| 08:26.46 | Nuknfuts | it was too random |
| 08:26.58 | Triceron | I liked War3, but only in 3v3 |
| 08:26.59 | Clord | actually if there is beginning two units with same damage ranges |
| 08:27.01 | Nuknfuts | some guy gets a good item from a creep and someone gets a terrible one could change the game |
| 08:27.02 | Clord | they hit same amount |
| 08:27.07 | Clord | damage is not totally random |
| 08:27.07 | Triceron | 1v1 was so messed up |
| 08:27.17 | Clord | if archers shoot eachother they deal exact same damage |
| 08:27.23 | Nuknfuts | yes |
| 08:27.30 | Nuknfuts | but then add in crit damage and other random things |
| 08:27.34 | Triceron | but the problem is it's not a unit vs unit basis. There's a ton of random factors |
| 08:27.42 | Triceron | like shops and stuff too |
| 08:27.46 | Verr82 | can you add abilities to units with behaviors? |
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| 08:27.54 | Triceron | get a good item and your hero could kick a LOT of ass |
| 08:28.06 | Nuknfuts | yes verr82 i believe so |
| 08:28.07 | Triceron | blademasters with +15 damage claws |
| 08:28.12 | Nuknfuts | yeah |
| 08:28.19 | Clord | blademaster's intended role is kinda solo |
| 08:28.21 | Nuknfuts | or mana potions like crazy and just run around ganking units w/ windwalk |
| 08:28.21 | Triceron | and gloves of haste |
| 08:28.28 | Verr82 | nuknfuts; how, if you don't mind? |
| 08:28.40 | Nuknfuts | should be under modifications - abilities |
| 08:28.41 | Triceron | once you hit lvl 6 and get a healer, it's GG |
| 08:28.47 | Verr82 | thanks! |
| 08:29.04 | Nuknfuts | it was a great engine for RPGs though for sure.. |
| 08:29.09 | Nuknfuts | all the characters were there |
| 08:29.13 | Triceron | I loved War3 RPGs |
| 08:29.19 | Nuknfuts | if they had WC3's setting on the SC2 engine... one word: insane |
| 08:29.19 | Triceron | I loved the hero system for that |
| 08:29.29 | Triceron | yeah |
| 08:29.34 | Triceron | I kinda wish SC2 was fantasy :P |
| 08:29.39 | Grum | mod it |
| 08:29.41 | Triceron | or had it |
| 08:29.46 | Clord | WCIV... would not be surprised really it to happen |
| 08:29.51 | Triceron | it's possible but that'd be a lot of time investment |
| 08:30.03 | Nuknfuts | not until WoW loses steam Clord... which is probably when the next blizz MMO comes out |
| 08:30.05 | Triceron | by the time you fully mod SC2 into fantasy world, War4 would be announced |
| 08:30.06 | Grum | Clord: i'm sortof expecting that to be out quite soon on the sc2 codebase :) |
| 08:30.29 | Nuknfuts | since theyre using WoW to advance the wc storyline and all that |
| 08:30.46 | Nuknfuts | blizz IS working on a next gen MMO but that could be many years out |
| 08:30.52 | Nuknfuts | and you've got D3 in between |
| 08:31.12 | Grum | mmm d3! |
| 08:31.20 | Triceron | D3 looks way too low poly |
| 08:31.25 | Triceron | it looks like War3, haha |
| 08:31.30 | Grum | who cares how it looks, really |
| 08:31.31 | Nuknfuts | its their art direction Triceron |
| 08:31.35 | Triceron | I do |
| 08:31.38 | Grum | look at wow, its low polygon as ever |
| 08:31.44 | Grum | its the gameplay which really matters |
| 08:31.45 | Nuknfuts | Blizzard always keeps things in that art form for longevity |
| 08:31.45 | Triceron | but that's Warcraft's style |
| 08:31.48 | Triceron | it's always been cartoony |
| 08:31.58 | Nuknfuts | i dont like cartoony for D3's setting as much though ill admit |
| 08:32.03 | Triceron | Diablo has always been more of the dark, gothic, detailed game |
| 08:32.03 | Nuknfuts | even D2 wasnt as dark as D1 |
| 08:32.09 | Lyrrad | ugh, the only picture format supported is .tga? |
| 08:32.10 | Nuknfuts | where youd have nude chopped up bodies etc |
| 08:32.19 | Triceron | like you look at the skeletons in Diablo |
| 08:32.23 | Grum | Lyrrad: tga, jpg, dds, png iirc |
| 08:32.29 | Triceron | there's so much detail. Each bone |
| 08:32.35 | Triceron | they're not like WoW skeletons |
| 08:32.37 | Nuknfuts | jpg too really? |
| 08:32.39 | Grum | or wait, should be dds, tga always |
| 08:32.40 | Lyrrad | How come the only ones that show up are .tga? |
| 08:32.48 | Nuknfuts | pretty sure its .tga and .dds only |
| 08:32.49 | Lyrrad | and dds |
| 08:32.49 | Grum | jpg/png are supported for the loading screens |
| 08:32.57 | Nuknfuts | i hvaent gotten a jpg/png for loading screen yet |
| 08:32.59 | casperb | textures are all dds |
| 08:33.02 | Nuknfuts | possibly compression? |
| 08:33.16 | Triceron | I'm having issues with .dds and normal maps |
| 08:33.18 | Lyrrad | I can't get jpg or png to sahow up as loading screen options |
| 08:33.38 | Triceron | it messes up my normals for some reason, even though the picture itself is fine |
| 08:34.01 | Lyrrad | well I found a converter for .tga, so its not that bug an issue |
| 08:34.03 | Triceron | change it to dds Lyrrad |
| 08:34.17 | Triceron | dds are compressed formats, like jpg |
| 08:34.45 | Nuknfuts | my tga gets compressed down to 200kb anyways |
| 08:34.52 | Nuknfuts | though id prefer to start it at a higher resolution |
| 08:35.47 | Nuknfuts | Scrotie McLavaballs |
| 08:35.52 | Nuknfuts | good god give this guy a medal for the name |
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| 08:41.28 | tekkion | hi there |
| 08:42.05 | Triceron | Ahoy |
| 08:42.14 | tekkion | did somebody expierenced some problems with renaming a unit with the help of an upgrade? |
| 08:42.16 | Demonette | hi |
| 08:43.38 | tekkion | and i mean rather a bug than a problem on my side |
| 08:47.14 | tekkion | maybe is should just explain the problem and somebody will be able to tell me if it should work like this or not |
| 08:47.48 | tekkion | what im trying to do is give the marauder a "major" upgrade including + 3 armor and +55 life |
| 08:48.21 | tekkion | because of the big changes i also wanted to rename the marauder to heavy marauder |
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| 08:48.43 | Clord | if renaming didn't work right then it will not just work |
| 08:48.44 | Clord | XD |
| 08:49.03 | Demonette | Mmmhhh |
| 08:49.05 | tekkion | so you choose unit within the effects table then marauder scroll down to name |
| 08:49.26 | tekkion | and then a new effect with set name to Heavy Marauder |
| 08:49.30 | Demonette | select set |
| 08:49.43 | Demonette | and this isn't working? |
| 08:49.50 | tekkion | when i do this the marauder got instantly renamed |
| 08:49.54 | tekkion | within the editor o.0 |
| 08:50.13 | tekkion | and entry isnt saved when i leave the effects table |
| 08:50.26 | tekkion | i would say this is a bug but im not fully sure |
| 08:50.38 | Clord | they probably didn't need rename functionality |
| 08:50.44 | Clord | so it is another broken "feature" |
| 08:50.44 | Clord | XD |
| 08:51.02 | tekkion | sad |
| 08:51.10 | tekkion | would be fun to play with the names |
| 08:51.28 | Clord | usually people make new unit and changes look |
| 08:51.34 | Demonette | Sounds wierd |
| 08:51.46 | tekkion | the problem now is that the marauder is fully fucked up |
| 08:51.52 | tekkion | its got no name in the game |
| 08:51.59 | tekkion | in the effects table its named heavy marauder |
| 08:52.05 | tekkion | but not in the units tab etc :D |
| 08:52.24 | MavercK | i swear the next person who publishes an outdated version of my map is getting stabbed |
| 08:52.24 | Demonette | mmmhhh |
| 08:52.25 | MavercK | in the eye |
| 08:52.26 | tekkion | tryin to role back the whole stuff now |
| 08:52.43 | tekkion | but thanks for the info ^^ |
| 08:59.23 | rrowland | Wow |
| 08:59.27 | rrowland | I just got placed in bronze league |
| 09:00.16 | MavercK | thats gotta sting |
| 09:00.39 | rrowland | Before this diamond bullshit I was platinum (top) |
| 09:00.49 | rrowland | I happened to get 3 opponents who were diamond level |
| 09:00.52 | rrowland | But not yet ranked |
| 09:01.11 | rrowland | The placement system is retarded |
| 09:02.55 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz * r11 YABOT/Lost Temple YABOT 0.1.3.SC2Map: Fixed many bugs and added more attack wave options |
| 09:02.58 | rrowland | Well |
| 09:03.06 | rrowland | Sucks to be the coppers about to get smurfed |
| 09:04.12 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz * r12 YABOT/Lost Temple YABOT 0.1.2.SC2Map: Finished commit |
| 09:04.12 | Lyrrad | rrow the servers back up? |
| 09:04.28 | rrowland | Yeah only for like 4 hours now |
| 09:04.34 | Xapti | guys |
| 09:04.39 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz 04v0.1.3 * r13 : Tagging as v0.1.3 |
| 09:04.41 | Xapti | you know why frenzy ability needed a unit? |
| 09:04.52 | Xapti | (which has it's own mover, etc.) |
| 09:05.05 | Lyrrad | heh, I have been using the test map, and keeps popping up a message on me, I never bothered to read it, I just assumed it wasn't back up |
| 09:05.06 | Xapti | sounds so strange to me |
| 09:05.44 | P_R_Smelltoid | Oh oh hey |
| 09:05.48 | P_R_Smelltoid | Yabot owns |
| 09:06.07 | P_R_Smelltoid | they added copper back in? |
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| 09:09.14 | `3ICE | doubt that |
| 09:09.45 | Demonette | lol the removed 1v1 oO |
| 09:13.00 | rrowland | I won 1 game and it promoted |
| 09:13.14 | rrowland | Not much of a smurf :( |
| 09:19.11 | Clord | blizzard should take route like some other RTS companies right now |
| 09:19.16 | Clord | balance is not made for 1v1 |
| 09:19.17 | Clord | XD |
| 09:21.22 | Triceron | agreed |
| 09:22.02 | Triceron | I only 2v2 in sc2 |
| 09:22.10 | Triceron | and it sucks. |
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| 09:24.05 | Lyrrad | goodnight |
| 09:27.05 | Verr82 | how do you make Creep not "snapshot" underneath the fog of war (so it's always live for other players to see)? |
| 09:27.26 | `3ICE | periodically reveal the entire map |
| 09:28.44 | Sixen | Are names still not unique? |
| 09:29.12 | `3ICE | they probably aren't |
| 09:29.40 | `3ICE | fucked up system :/ |
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| 09:40.09 | Motive | Lol yeah |
| 09:40.26 | Motive | this latest patch kind of proves they weren't "breaking it to understand it" or whatever |
| 09:40.30 | Motive | otherwise it would've been reverted by now :P |
| 09:42.43 | Verr82 | 3ICE; periodically revealing the whole map ruins other things which I do want snapshotted within fog of war. Is there no other way - is it hardcoded? |
| 09:43.15 | `3ICE | you could reveal each grid-square that has creep in it |
| 09:43.21 | `3ICE | lots of work, not worth it |
| 09:43.22 | P_R_Smelltoid | oh man |
| 09:43.25 | P_R_Smelltoid | should I ladder random? |
| 09:43.29 | P_R_Smelltoid | I only know how to play protoss |
| 09:43.36 | P_R_Smelltoid | but I could just place bronze and practice against shitty people |
| 09:43.57 | Werepenguin | You'll get nowhere by beating bronze noobs |
| 09:43.57 | `3ICE | I love playing as random. |
| 09:44.03 | P_R_Smelltoid | Sure I will. |
| 09:44.06 | P_R_Smelltoid | Timings |
| 09:44.06 | `3ICE | build order practice :) |
| 09:44.13 | MortalPlague | Evenin' folks |
| 09:44.15 | Werepenguin | You can do that against the computer :) |
| 09:44.19 | P_R_Smelltoid | Yeah, YABOT doesn't have enough builds built in and any other way is just boring |
| 09:44.26 | P_R_Smelltoid | very easy is worse than a bronze player |
| 09:44.30 | P_R_Smelltoid | worse, even |
| 09:44.30 | MortalPlague | I can't figure out how to get here from mIRC, so I'm running the web client |
| 09:44.31 | MortalPlague | lol |
| 09:44.39 | P_R_Smelltoid | because the ai doesn't work at all. |
| 09:44.43 | P_R_Smelltoid | it breaks at the smallest thing |
| 09:44.56 | `3ICE | irc://chat.freenode.net/sc2mapster |
| 09:45.07 | `3ICE | simpelst thing in the world |
| 09:45.15 | P_R_Smelltoid | pretty easy indeed |
| 09:48.21 | Hati | new reset ? |
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| 09:50.07 | Xapti | you know what I'm confused at? |
| 09:50.16 | `3ICE | no, but you will tell me now :) |
| 09:50.29 | Xapti | actualyl i forgot so i guess not |
| 09:50.34 | `3ICE | aww |
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| 09:50.37 | Xapti | just wondering if you knew |
| 09:51.13 | Xapti | people haven't made any maps with custom AIs, like all those modded AIs people made to play offline when beta was released |
| 09:51.46 | Xapti | You'd think it'd be pretty popular to have like comp stomp maps, or 4v4 decent computers or stuff |
| 09:52.00 | Xapti | considering how bad and brainless most of these SC2 players seems to be |
| 09:52.02 | `3ICE | i checked out some of those "modded AIs" and all they had was BlizzardEasyAIStart() lol |
| 09:52.13 | Xapti | enjoying games like battlecraft and composition wars |
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| 09:53.06 | MPChance | Ah, there we go |
| 09:53.14 | Xapti | I'm not sure what you mean by that |
| 09:54.25 | Xapti | It uses easy AI as a base for maybe some things, because there's nothign else available included in the game code, but it's heavily modified with custom AI commands with various builds, to make it substantially better than a bronze or silver player maybe even |
| 09:55.10 | Xapti | Some of the people working on those AIs got sued by blizzard though, since they were the same peopel working on stuff like lazylauncher |
| 09:55.28 | Xapti | oh wait lazylauncher wasn't hte sued people |
| 09:55.37 | Xapti | it was the server emulator |
| 09:55.49 | Xapti | but still some of the server smu peopel worked on the AI i think |
| 09:56.00 | MortalPlague | Heh... before I got the beta, lazylauncher was a godsend |
| 09:56.37 | MortalPlague | Still, there's no substitute for actual opponents |
| 10:00.51 | Beider | I hate working on UI so much... ack |
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| 10:05.21 | Demo_ | so my unit group commands randomly stoped working |
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| 10:20.57 | WhiskeeGX | dependency header not available -- teams 13 (mod) |
| 10:20.59 | WhiskeeGX | woot? |
| 10:21.02 | Clord | I just love this improved unit becomes idle over Warcraft III weak one... ^^ |
| 10:23.47 | Clord | makes actually sure that units not get stuck |
| 10:23.50 | Clord | I mean |
| 10:23.53 | Clord | does not stop there |
| 10:24.57 | Demo_ | I love that random triggers of mine just stopped working |
| 10:24.58 | Demo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.02 | Demo_ | doesn't work anymore |
| 10:25.07 | WhiskeeGX | oh god they broke slot 13 as well |
| 10:26.16 | Demo_ | I really am starting to hate blizzard |
| 10:26.32 | Demo_ | Why the hell would Variable - Set Mob 1 = (Random Any unit from Difficulty 0) work then not work... |
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| 10:32.28 | Xan | is there no way to increase the map size more than 256x256? |
| 10:32.41 | Clord | there is also that weird display bug... shows wrong number of gas than real amount.... |
| 10:32.42 | Clord | XD |
| 10:32.43 | `3ICE | mess around in scs's memory |
| 10:33.06 | Clord | it happens when set resources is used many times for gas |
| 10:33.07 | Clord | lol |
| 10:33.33 | Clord | it somehow freezes that number and then lie to player |
| 10:33.50 | P_R_Smelltoid | Anyone tried Mimic AI out yet? |
| 10:34.59 | rrowland | Mimic AI? |
| 10:35.04 | rrowland | I'm guessing it just copies everything you do? |
| 10:35.05 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:35.08 | P_R_Smelltoid | Sort of |
| 10:35.18 | P_R_Smelltoid | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mimic-ai/ |
| 10:35.25 | P_R_Smelltoid | sounds like it just copies your timings. |
| 10:35.32 | Clord | I gotta constantly leave game because host starts match with too few players |
| 10:35.33 | Clord | aka no enemy |
| 10:35.58 | Clord | while it bumbs map nicely |
| 10:36.00 | Clord | it is still lol >_> |
| 10:36.23 | rrowland | Looks pretty cool |
| 10:36.33 | P_R_Smelltoid | Hence my asking if anyone has played it |
| 10:36.44 | P_R_Smelltoid | I wonder what a profile of a pro gamer playing against it would be like |
| 10:36.53 | P_R_Smelltoid | I mean, is the AI controlling the actual units going to change |
| 10:36.54 | `3ICE | banks are broken and will not load |
| 10:36.57 | P_R_Smelltoid | or just base management and stuff |
| 10:36.58 | `3ICE | so yeah... |
| 10:37.05 | P_R_Smelltoid | so it's impossible to use? |
| 10:37.11 | `3ICE | kind of... |
| 10:37.12 | rrowland | I'm doubting it copies any behavior except build order |
| 10:37.20 | `3ICE | you can save like 100 vallues then it will fail to load |
| 10:37.23 | Clord | mimic AI... lol |
| 10:37.45 | Clord | he makes it sound awesome |
| 10:37.49 | Clord | but that is just build orders etc |
| 10:38.03 | P_R_Smelltoid | Too bad it's apparently impossible to play according to party poope `3ICE |
| 10:38.11 | `3ICE | r* |
| 10:38.14 | P_R_Smelltoid | it says attack orders, too |
| 10:38.22 | P_R_Smelltoid | I am English, we have to make our words fancy |
| 10:38.24 | P_R_Smelltoid | Poope |
| 10:38.27 | Clord | bad matches mean that it records crap tactics and randomy uses them |
| 10:38.28 | `3ICE | lol |
| 10:38.31 | Clord | making AI rather weak |
| 10:38.32 | Clord | XD |
| 10:38.33 | P_R_Smelltoid | You would say it... "Party Poop" |
| 10:38.40 | P_R_Smelltoid | You get to choose what you save |
| 10:38.46 | P_R_Smelltoid | you can also just steal matches from good players |
| 10:38.52 | P_R_Smelltoid | hopefully |
| 10:38.57 | rrowland | Yeah if all it did was change the build order |
| 10:39.01 | rrowland | It's not going to be very good |
| 10:39.10 | rrowland | It's a cool idea though |
| 10:39.10 | P_R_Smelltoid | arn't you like... a mod of this site? |
| 10:39.13 | P_R_Smelltoid | Who is judging the contest? |
| 10:39.22 | rrowland | Me? no |
| 10:39.27 | rrowland | I'm working on an AI though |
| 10:39.33 | `3ICE | if he enters he relinquishes his right to be a judge anyway |
| 10:39.33 | P_R_Smelltoid | You're on the front page. Mod enough |
| 10:39.39 | Clord | if AI somehow could compare how long matches was with tactic X |
| 10:39.40 | P_R_Smelltoid | Very true |
| 10:39.51 | Clord | and choose more likely those what led to quick victory when used by AI |
| 10:39.52 | Clord | XD |
| 10:39.58 | Clord | it could eventually make AI rather strong |
| 10:40.04 | P_R_Smelltoid | (I like your sentry AI, rrowland |
| 10:40.05 | P_R_Smelltoid | ) |
| 10:40.10 | rrowland | ty |
| 10:40.22 | rrowland | It's not done yet but just to get it to that point took like 2 days |
| 10:40.30 | rrowland | I'm gonna focus on the rest of my AI before the 7th |
| 10:40.41 | rrowland | Since right now leet sentry micro is about the only thing it has going for it lol |
| 10:40.41 | P_R_Smelltoid | is that when the contest ends |
| 10:40.42 | P_R_Smelltoid | ? |
| 10:40.46 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 10:41.01 | P_R_Smelltoid | So exciting |
| 10:41.27 | Xan | how is its sentry micro? |
| 10:41.30 | Clord | real question is how they will fight against official AI in non resource cheating difficulty |
| 10:41.31 | Clord | XD |
| 10:41.37 | P_R_Smelltoid | It uses shields like a player would |
| 10:41.38 | P_R_Smelltoid | and ramps |
| 10:41.46 | P_R_Smelltoid | there is a video on the front page of sc2mapster.com |
| 10:41.47 | Clord | but that is something retail stuff |
| 10:41.50 | Xan | ah |
| 10:42.12 | P_R_Smelltoid | Is the contest judges purely on difficulty? |
| 10:42.21 | rrowland | I don't know what it's judged on |
| 10:42.40 | rrowland | I'm just making an awesome AI cause I like to automate things |
| 10:42.58 | rrowland | And first place among the like.. 2 people that are entering would be cool |
| 10:43.03 | Xan | got normal hit and run micro yet rrowland? |
| 10:43.13 | Xan | like moving back hurt units |
| 10:43.16 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 10:43.28 | Xan | good^^ |
| 10:43.34 | Clord | just make sure they don't retreat when it is worthless |
| 10:43.35 | Clord | XD |
| 10:43.40 | Clord | aka retreating would hurt more |
| 10:43.42 | P_R_Smelltoid | hey, just for entering you get a free month of curse premium |
| 10:43.43 | Clord | lol |
| 10:43.43 | rrowland | Well tell that to the AI clord |
| 10:43.44 | P_R_Smelltoid | woot woot |
| 10:43.47 | rrowland | By default |
| 10:43.52 | rrowland | If the AI thinks it's going to lose |
| 10:43.55 | rrowland | Or even break even |
| 10:44.03 | rrowland | It starts running the entire army away |
| 10:44.06 | rrowland | And it all gets raped |
| 10:44.06 | Clord | rrowland.... that usually makes retreat logic worthless in games like this where units die fast |
| 10:44.11 | Clord | so better filter out zerglings |
| 10:44.11 | Clord | etc |
| 10:44.14 | Clord | XD |
| 10:44.25 | rrowland | I don't know how to change that |
| 10:44.29 | rrowland | I think it's built-in |
| 10:44.33 | P_R_Smelltoid | "You know what would be an AWESOME way to find the winner? Battle the AI's against eachother =D" |
| 10:44.34 | P_R_Smelltoid | haha |
| 10:44.42 | Xan | few zerglings can micro well against zealots for example though |
| 10:44.46 | `3ICE | hell no that takes years |
| 10:44.49 | rrowland | Yeah it's a bit easier said than done though |
| 10:45.01 | rrowland | Mine is an actual AI mod |
| 10:45.01 | P_R_Smelltoid | maybe the AIs will make it not take years |
| 10:45.06 | P_R_Smelltoid | I think it would be pretty awesome. |
| 10:45.06 | rrowland | Not triggers |
| 10:45.24 | Clord | two turtling AI waiting and waiting that other attack |
| 10:45.26 | Clord | yeah lol |
| 10:45.27 | Clord | XD |
| 10:45.28 | rrowland | So for each matchup there would be a considerable setup time |
| 10:45.53 | Xan | make a perfect 6 pool |
| 10:45.54 | Xan | ^^ |
| 10:45.55 | Xan | rush |
| 10:45.57 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:46.19 | rrowland | Well I've focused a lot on micro |
| 10:46.23 | rrowland | Now I need to focus on macro |
| 10:46.29 | Clord | those so called "pro" people... AI can execute many of those "pro" tactics as effectively |
| 10:46.42 | Clord | making to wonder that if that is "pro"... then e-sport is crap |
| 10:46.43 | Clord | XD |
| 10:46.43 | Xan | AI have infinite APM? ^^ |
| 10:46.45 | rrowland | I think I'm going to leave out air |
| 10:46.52 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:47.00 | rrowland | For the contest |
| 10:47.01 | devilirium | AI can own a human with no problem. |
| 10:47.06 | Xan | you need phoenix anti muta micro |
| 10:47.27 | rrowland | Yeah zerg player vs protoss AI |
| 10:47.32 | rrowland | Zerg player makes mutas |
| 10:47.32 | Clord | it is mostly processor power what is holding companies like Blizzard back from doing very effective AI |
| 10:47.35 | rrowland | Zerg player wins all the time |
| 10:47.45 | Xan | perfect phoenix micro so they dont get hit |
| 10:47.45 | Xan | ^^ |
| 10:47.59 | rrowland | Acceleration =/ |
| 10:48.01 | Xan | and also HT storm micro |
| 10:48.18 | Clord | thus there is that crazy project thing in world |
| 10:48.21 | Clord | AI processor |
| 10:48.22 | Clord | for computers |
| 10:48.27 | Clord | to calcucate real time pathing etc |
| 10:48.33 | rrowland | Hmm |
| 10:48.39 | rrowland | Mutas have 3 range and phoenix 4 right? |
| 10:48.53 | P_R_Smelltoid | either way, pheonix shoot while moving |
| 10:49.03 | P_R_Smelltoid | pew pew pew |
| 10:49.05 | P_R_Smelltoid | man I love that |
| 10:49.11 | Xan | think so |
| 10:49.13 | rrowland | If both have 3 range you can't kite... Obviously |
| 10:49.16 | P_R_Smelltoid | Driving backwards shooting lazers and stupid sky zerg |
| 10:49.24 | P_R_Smelltoid | sure you can, they have a charge up time on their attack |
| 10:49.25 | Clord | http://www.aiseek.com/ |
| 10:49.26 | Xan | phoenix have more range than mutas |
| 10:49.31 | P_R_Smelltoid | you can cancel their attack animation while keeping yours |
| 10:49.32 | depthsofchaos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcjQhig88wE i remember this ai xD |
| 10:49.36 | P_R_Smelltoid | because yours isn't canceled by movement |
| 10:49.43 | rrowland | I don't think it's enough range to kite though |
| 10:49.49 | Xan | yeah mutas have 3, phoenix 4 |
| 10:49.53 | P_R_Smelltoid | You can kite with Phoenix. |
| 10:49.59 | rrowland | Indefinitely? |
| 10:50.05 | Xan | should be possible since phoenix can hit while on move |
| 10:50.07 | P_R_Smelltoid | If you want to put that much time into very little damage |
| 10:50.18 | rrowland | Phoenixes are slower and have slower acceleration |
| 10:50.21 | P_R_Smelltoid | Because you have to go back in and out and duck and dive and you only get a few shots |
| 10:50.23 | P_R_Smelltoid | What? |
| 10:50.36 | P_R_Smelltoid | Phoenixs are like the fastest thing in the game and have nearly 0 acceleration delay |
| 10:50.58 | Xan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFfVC-0KLs8 |
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| 10:51.55 | crazyfingers | anyone know of an easy way of checking if a unit got a lot of kills in a row in a short time span? |
| 10:51.58 | rrowland | Uh |
| 10:52.03 | rrowland | That's not kiting at all |
| 10:52.12 | P_R_Smelltoid | the guy is also awful |
| 10:52.12 | Clord | phoenixes are like super zerglings on air if enable attack ground |
| 10:52.13 | Clord | XD |
| 10:52.13 | rrowland | They're just pulling small parts off of the group |
| 10:52.30 | rrowland | And still getting hit |
| 10:52.37 | P_R_Smelltoid | Yes, he isn't very good, that being the problem |
| 10:52.43 | Xan | well |
| 10:52.46 | P_R_Smelltoid | with pro and or computer precesion, it is possible to kite. |
| 10:52.56 | Xan | yea |
| 10:53.21 | Clord | I have yet to balance my phoenixes when blizzard enabled kite |
| 10:53.28 | depthsofchaos | just turn in the opposite direction immediately :o computer has no lag either |
| 10:54.08 | rrowland | Well |
| 10:54.14 | rrowland | I'll play around with it |
| 10:54.31 | rrowland | Would be so much easier if it were vikings though |
| 10:54.32 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:54.46 | P_R_Smelltoid | Phoenixes have 1 speed higher than Mutas and 1 range higher, as well |
| 10:54.53 | P_R_Smelltoid | and no attack delay while moving |
| 10:54.57 | P_R_Smelltoid | so their attacks can never be canceled |
| 10:55.27 | rrowland | Well |
| 10:55.33 | rrowland | Say a muta is at full speed |
| 10:55.41 | P_R_Smelltoid | slower than a phoenix. |
| 10:55.42 | rrowland | And you've slowed to let it catch up to be in your range |
| 10:55.50 | rrowland | then you begin to accelerate |
| 10:55.53 | rrowland | to kite it again |
| 10:56.03 | rrowland | I'm concerned it will get into range to attack |
| 10:56.06 | rrowland | before you move out |
| 10:56.20 | Xan | well it wont be perfect, but they would still be able to kill damn many of them with few phoenixes |
| 10:56.25 | P_R_Smelltoid | Probably will. If you can't judge the distance and timing, it'd be very hard to move it in time to get an attack and no get hit |
| 10:56.37 | rrowland | But |
| 10:56.40 | rrowland | I want it to be perfect |
| 10:56.41 | rrowland | :P |
| 10:56.43 | Xan | ^^ |
| 10:56.45 | P_R_Smelltoid | you just have to harrass well enough to make good on yoru investment. Phoenixs are awful anti air. |
| 10:56.49 | depthsofchaos | phoenixes should be moving constantly |
| 10:56.55 | Xan | it will be annoying as hell for the zerg player anyhow :D |
| 10:57.01 | depthsofchaos | to avoid acceleration |
| 10:57.07 | rrowland | That's a good idea |
| 10:57.08 | P_R_Smelltoid | Also, to not lose acceleration, sometimes players will move left or right instead of forward |
| 10:57.10 | Clord | I plan to add commanders for those builders in fortress fight... SCV for example is turned Jim Raynor and all infantry gains damage boost but vehicles and air loses some damage |
| 10:57.20 | P_R_Smelltoid | which allows the mutas to catch up a bit |
| 10:57.23 | rrowland | Instead of making them move 90 degrees from the mutas |
| 10:57.25 | Clord | =) |
| 10:57.27 | P_R_Smelltoid | but really |
| 10:57.34 | rrowland | Make them move 90 * 3/4 |
| 10:57.37 | rrowland | degrees |
| 10:57.38 | P_R_Smelltoid | you should worry about making phoenixes harrass well, for that is their only real purpose |
| 10:57.42 | rrowland | And they'll go the same speed |
| 10:57.45 | P_R_Smelltoid | their damage and cost stink for how they do against similar air |
| 10:57.58 | rrowland | In the hands of a computer |
| 10:57.58 | Clord | phoenixes also screw over siege tanks quite nicely |
| 10:58.03 | Clord | choke defense is suddenly gone |
| 10:58.16 | Xan | graviton beam micro too ;) |
| 10:58.19 | rrowland | I think phoenixes will counter mutas handily when controlled by a computer |
| 10:58.20 | P_R_Smelltoid | Players can split mutas and attempt to box you in, then the turning will sabotage you |
| 10:58.30 | rrowland | If I can keep my 1 phoenix alive indefinitely |
| 10:58.38 | Xan | well |
| 10:58.39 | rrowland | The player would need to seperate his mutas |
| 10:58.41 | rrowland | And box me in |
| 10:58.41 | Xan | you can always surround it |
| 10:58.55 | P_R_Smelltoid | most people will not bother with 1 harrassing muta, because they do so little damage |
| 10:59.08 | rrowland | I didn't say 1 muta lol |
| 10:59.11 | rrowland | I said 1 phoenix |
| 10:59.13 | depthsofchaos | unless he does a 360 degree surround its not gona work :o |
| 10:59.13 | Xan | 3 phoenix vs 9 mutas? |
| 10:59.17 | P_R_Smelltoid | I know |
| 10:59.19 | P_R_Smelltoid | That is what I said |
| 10:59.21 | P_R_Smelltoid | erm |
| 10:59.23 | P_R_Smelltoid | woops! |
| 10:59.28 | P_R_Smelltoid | 1 harrassing phoenix. |
| 10:59.30 | depthsofchaos | no player can do that |
| 10:59.38 | Xan | even without a 360 surround you will hit the phoenix at least once |
| 10:59.47 | P_R_Smelltoid | all they have to do is make sure the phoenix can't slow down without being punished |
| 10:59.52 | P_R_Smelltoid | they don't need to get in front of it |
| 11:00.06 | rrowland | Well if they move faster |
| 11:00.13 | rrowland | The phoenixes |
| 11:00.35 | rrowland | They can stay at optimal range simply by moving at an angle |
| 11:00.51 | rrowland | The problem is AI only computes like 2 or 3 times a second |
| 11:01.07 | Xan | use triggers? |
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| 11:01.26 | rrowland | That's not AI |
| 11:01.33 | P_R_Smelltoid | Ooo burn |
| 11:01.34 | rrowland | That's cheating imo |
| 11:01.35 | P_R_Smelltoid | telling Callix |
| 11:01.41 | Xan | it can be ai |
| 11:01.41 | rrowland | If you have to use triggers it's cheating |
| 11:02.14 | Xan | why? |
| 11:02.36 | rrowland | Because blizzard's default AIs define what AI is |
| 11:02.39 | rrowland | And they're AI files |
| 11:02.42 | rrowland | Not triggers |
| 11:02.50 | Xan | not if you make your own entirely using triggers |
| 11:02.51 | Xan | ^^ |
| 11:03.21 | rrowland | Using triggers just temps you to do things you shouldn't be doing |
| 11:03.26 | rrowland | Like making periodic triggers |
| 11:03.33 | rrowland | tempts* |
| 11:03.39 | devilirium | rrow +1 |
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| 11:08.00 | rrowland | The speed difference is 4.25 to 3.75 |
| 11:08.03 | rrowland | so it's 0.5 faster |
| 11:08.48 | rrowland | And they have the same acceleration |
| 11:08.54 | rrowland | 3.25 |
| 11:18.21 | MortalPlague | Periodic triggers... like "At 5 minutes, spawn six carriers, attack-move to enemy base" |
| 11:18.26 | MortalPlague | That would be a tough AI to beat. |
| 11:19.16 | rrowland | Yeah. There's needs to be a line somewhere |
| 11:19.30 | rrowland | Creating carriers out of nothing is one |
| 11:19.51 | rrowland | Making period functions to circumvent the AI loop speed is another |
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| 11:19.59 | Stripe | good morning :D |
| 11:20.03 | rrowland | Hello |
| 11:20.14 | Clord | good middleday |
| 11:20.16 | Clord | or whatever |
| 11:20.16 | Clord | XD |
| 11:20.25 | Stripe | :D |
| 11:20.27 | rrowland | good 4:20am |
| 11:20.40 | MortalPlague | Aha, yes. It is indeed |
| 11:20.45 | Stripe | for me its 1:20 p.m. |
| 11:20.49 | MortalPlague | I was just playing your map earlier, rrowland |
| 11:20.52 | MortalPlague | Sniper wars |
| 11:21.01 | MortalPlague | Nice map, I got killed reading your tooltips quite a bit |
| 11:21.03 | MortalPlague | lol |
| 11:21.06 | rrowland | lol |
| 11:21.19 | rrowland | I added flavor text, I must be gay |
| 11:21.37 | MortalPlague | Halfway through, I figured out there were THREE tabs of upgrades =P |
| 11:21.47 | MortalPlague | I was looking for the speed and sight upgrades, thought I must be crazy |
| 11:21.49 | rrowland | lol |
| 11:21.55 | MortalPlague | Fun though |
| 11:22.22 | rrowland | Everyone says it is |
| 11:22.29 | rrowland | Yet it lingers at the bottom :P |
| 11:22.30 | MortalPlague | The UT sound effects really seal the deal for me =P |
| 11:22.37 | MortalPlague | Eh, I found it on page one |
| 11:22.46 | MortalPlague | Lower on page one, but still on page one |
| 11:23.24 | rrowland | Hopefully they fix popularity |
| 11:23.29 | MortalPlague | Amen to that |
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| 11:23.40 | MortalPlague | I have not yet tried to fight the system |
| 11:23.44 | rrowland | Did you try the DotA map? |
| 11:23.52 | MortalPlague | Lol, no, but I heard about it |
| 11:24.23 | `3ICE | rickroll! |
| 11:24.44 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 11:24.46 | rrowland | It's like |
| 11:24.52 | rrowland | The funniest thing that's ever happened |
| 11:24.52 | rrowland | Ever |
| 11:25.19 | MortalPlague | Yeah, great stuff |
| 11:25.39 | rrowland | People on the forums are saying they're scared people might upload virii into their computer |
| 11:25.41 | rrowland | With maps |
| 11:25.46 | MortalPlague | rofl |
| 11:25.52 | MortalPlague | I read that thread |
| 11:26.48 | rrowland | As soon as I posted why their reasoning was stupid, all the doomsdayers left the thread and it died |
| 11:27.20 | MortalPlague | Yeah... forums love a good panic. |
| 11:27.46 | rrowland | They thought that the video was some special access and that the map maker "was able to lock them in the game" |
| 11:28.02 | rrowland | It's like... No it was just zoomed in on an object playing an animation and your UI was disabled, retards |
| 11:29.33 | MortalPlague | "The only way you can leave is alt-f4"! |
| 11:30.03 | rrowland | lol |
| 11:30.05 | rrowland | It is though |
| 11:30.08 | rrowland | As far as I know |
| 11:30.26 | rrowland | Since no UI means no hotkeys lol |
| 11:31.37 | depthsofchaos | did this new patch fix localization or just special characters?:o |
| 11:31.55 | MortalPlague | No F10 even? |
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| 11:33.05 | rrowland | Nope |
| 11:33.26 | rrowland | If a game sticks you without UI you need to alt f4 |
| 11:33.27 | rrowland | lol |
| 11:34.16 | MortalPlague | Funny stuff |
| 11:34.32 | MortalPlague | Ah well, I'm sticking to melee maps for now. The trigger editor scares me |
| 11:34.45 | `3ICE | one of my first war3 maps was a game with one trigger and one action in it: "enable cinematic mode" |
| 11:34.56 | MortalPlague | lol |
| 11:34.56 | rrowland | lol |
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| 11:41.50 | devilirium | owns |
| 11:43.06 | rrowland | is an anagram of snow |
| 11:43.50 | rrowland | also sown |
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| 11:44.17 | MortalPlague | I really like this texture system |
| 11:44.32 | MortalPlague | I didn't at first, but I'm having fun with crazy detail stuff |
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| 11:50.32 | MavercK | i hate movers and motion overlays |
| 11:50.33 | MavercK | http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4364/screenshot006tp.jpg |
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| 11:56.27 | MortalPlague | That's one crazy tower |
| 11:56.31 | MortalPlague | Also, I love that map |
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| 11:58.27 | rrowland | aahahahaha |
| 11:58.33 | rrowland | Sooo taking a video of this |
| 11:59.31 | Azu | sadface |
| 11:59.37 | Azu | i dont have any friends on starcraft :< |
| 12:00.31 | MortalPlague | Heh, wipes suck |
| 12:00.50 | MortalPlague | I had a great 3v3 partner I don't know how to get in touch with again |
| 12:00.59 | Azu | :< |
| 12:01.52 | WhiskeeGX | yay, finally managed to make this bug-free :P http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2416/rankingm.jpg |
| 12:02.12 | rrowland | nice whiskee :) |
| 12:03.02 | rrowland | btw ETA on most awesome thing ever is 16 minutes |
| 12:03.11 | WhiskeeGX | ! |
| 12:05.29 | MortalPlague | I look forward to it |
| 12:05.36 | MortalPlague | The most awesome thing ever sounds pretty awesome |
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| 12:05.51 | rrowland | It's more awesome than the second most awesome thing other |
| 12:06.00 | rrowland | The thing formerly known as the most awesome thing other |
| 12:06.07 | rrowland | ever* |
| 12:06.10 | rrowland | and ever* |
| 12:06.45 | MavercK | i dont think you hyped it enough ;) |
| 12:06.51 | MortalPlague | Awesome. |
| 12:07.02 | rrowland | Just kidding it's pretty lame |
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| 12:11.50 | MortalPlague | Worst. Awesome. Ever. |
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| 12:12.07 | rrowland | You haven't even seen it yet :P |
| 12:12.13 | rrowland | That's how lame it must be I guess |
| 12:12.51 | MortalPlague | lol |
| 12:12.55 | MortalPlague | You said it was lame =P |
| 12:13.44 | rrowland | haha I bet it recorded my classical music |
| 12:13.58 | rrowland | If it did I'm going to switch out the audio |
| 12:14.08 | Xan | why?^^ |
| 12:14.33 | rrowland | Hmm I'm not sure which song was playing |
| 12:14.35 | rrowland | It depends :P |
| 12:14.41 | rrowland | If it's fur elise then it can stay |
| 12:14.47 | rrowland | If it's queen of the night aria it has to go |
| 12:17.16 | MortalPlague | lol |
| 12:19.48 | rrowland | Processing now |
| 12:22.15 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPHdmJIT_p8 |
| 12:22.18 | rrowland | Watch in 720p! |
| 12:22.23 | crazyfingers | Anyone know how i would reference the total ammount of minerals a player has collected? The number that displays at the end of a match "minerals harvested" any way of using it in a trigger mid game? |
| 12:24.03 | MortalPlague | lol... very nice |
| 12:24.14 | Xan | what does the "Ground" brush in the path painting layer do? |
| 12:24.17 | rrowland | 1 phoenix > 10 mutas |
| 12:24.17 | MortalPlague | There was a thread on the boards about that too... |
| 12:24.29 | MortalPlague | "2 phoenixes wiped up my 12 mutas wtf" |
| 12:24.48 | rrowland | Now if I implement relative speed |
| 12:24.51 | rrowland | ... |
| 12:24.56 | rrowland | My goal is to make it kill 200/200 mutas |
| 12:25.04 | rrowland | Then I will consider it complete |
| 12:25.07 | rrowland | And a success |
| 12:25.37 | Xan | rrowland what happens if you have like 3 phoenixes vs lots of mutas? |
| 12:25.47 | rrowland | The mutas die faster |
| 12:25.48 | Xan | and also if you come from different directions etc |
| 12:25.54 | Xan | with the mutas |
| 12:25.58 | Xan | rather than just following |
| 12:26.00 | rrowland | Right now nothing |
| 12:26.09 | crazyfingers | the game crashes, pheonixes still live :D |
| 12:26.13 | rrowland | Right now it's just moving based on the closest muta |
| 12:26.31 | rrowland | But I'm going to make it move based on all mutas within a variable range |
| 12:26.43 | rrowland | And the range will depend on the phoenix's current speed |
| 12:27.00 | rrowland | And the speed/angle at which it moves |
| 12:27.07 | rrowland | Will depend on the mutas' speeds |
| 12:27.12 | rrowland | And distance |
| 12:27.12 | crazyfingers | you trying to make an uber hard difficulty AI rrowland? |
| 12:27.17 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 12:27.21 | crazyfingers | interesting... |
| 12:27.32 | rrowland | You see the vid I just linked? |
| 12:27.34 | crazyfingers | would be interesting to see, especially played against itself |
| 12:27.38 | crazyfingers | yep, cool |
| 12:27.43 | MortalPlague | Do you play as the mutalisks? |
| 12:27.47 | crazyfingers | saw one earlier with those beam guys |
| 12:27.49 | rrowland | Yeah I was the mutas |
| 12:27.52 | MortalPlague | That would be an interesting multiplayer game... kill the phoenix |
| 12:27.54 | MortalPlague | =P |
| 12:27.55 | rrowland | I just had them on A-move |
| 12:28.12 | rrowland | The sentries? :P |
| 12:28.15 | rrowland | Those took 2 days |
| 12:28.17 | MortalPlague | Each player starts with 12 mutas, and if one of them kills the phoenix, they win |
| 12:28.18 | crazyfingers | that's the one ;) |
| 12:28.18 | rrowland | This took 10 minutes haha |
| 12:28.19 | MortalPlague | =P |
| 12:28.30 | rrowland | But I'll be expanding on this a lot more |
| 12:28.43 | rrowland | I want it to handle people even with great micro |
| 12:28.45 | rrowland | Effectively |
| 12:28.55 | rrowland | And people with no micro I want it to mop the floor with |
| 12:29.13 | crazyfingers | i get a headache just thinking about how you'd make the ai work well as a whole |
| 12:29.16 | Azu | anyone eu wanna play some sc2? |
| 12:29.20 | crazyfingers | against a good player |
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| 12:42.12 | rrowland | doh |
| 12:42.20 | rrowland | There's no way to get a unit's movement speed eh |
| 12:42.34 | rrowland | The speed it's currently moving* |
| 12:42.40 | rrowland | I guess I can calculate it every iteration |
| 12:42.54 | MortalPlague | That sounds painstaking |
| 12:43.15 | rrowland | Hmm |
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| 12:43.27 | rrowland | I think it should be maybe 3/10 on the painstaking scale |
| 12:44.22 | rrowland | I'll make a custom unit value |
| 12:44.36 | rrowland | 2* |
| 12:44.42 | rrowland | And make them the X and Y of the unit |
| 12:44.48 | rrowland | At the end of the trigger |
| 12:44.49 | MortalPlague | Hmm |
| 12:44.50 | zifoon | wat u on about? |
| 12:44.54 | rrowland | (Well I'm using a trigger now) |
| 12:44.58 | zifoon | there is a way to get a current unit movement speed |
| 12:44.58 | MortalPlague | Where does learning Klingon fall on your painstaking scale? |
| 12:44.59 | zifoon | =_= |
| 12:45.05 | zifoon | it's built into the trigger |
| 12:45.19 | rrowland | If my unit is standing still it will return 0? |
| 12:45.43 | zifoon | hmmm it will return whatever the default speed is |
| 12:45.46 | rrowland | Right |
| 12:45.50 | rrowland | That's not what I need |
| 12:46.00 | rrowland | I'm looking to optimize this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPHdmJIT_p8 |
| 12:46.11 | zifoon | y not - default speed then? |
| 12:46.26 | zifoon | O_O |
| 12:46.26 | rrowland | Cause it has nothing to do with default speed |
| 12:46.32 | zifoon | no |
| 12:46.35 | zifoon | but it will return 0 |
| 12:46.41 | zifoon | if you minus the current speed - default |
| 12:46.52 | rrowland | Yeah anything minus itself will equal zero |
| 12:46.54 | zifoon | current speed = default + accel speed |
| 12:47.02 | zifoon | no |
| 12:47.05 | zifoon | but current speed |
| 12:47.11 | zifoon | also caculates |
| 12:47.15 | zifoon | increase in speed |
| 12:47.20 | zifoon | while default speed is constant |
| 12:47.31 | rrowland | acceleration and speed in the unit's properties don't change based on movement they change based on buffs |
| 12:47.48 | rrowland | I have my unit standing still and it still says 4.25 |
| 12:47.53 | rrowland | Using current |
| 12:48.02 | zifoon | hmmm |
| 12:48.38 | zifoon | wait up ill see |
| 12:48.46 | rrowland | I'm pretty sure my idea will work |
| 12:49.54 | rrowland | Put a custom value on the unit at the end of the loop with the unit's current position, then at the beginning of the next loop get the distance between its current and last point |
| 12:50.12 | rrowland | And multiply it by how many seconds are between the loops |
| 12:50.21 | rrowland | And that's its current speed |
| 12:51.28 | Clord | anyways they like their tile based ranges |
| 12:51.39 | Clord | I guess they wanted to have easier time to calcucate stuff |
| 12:51.40 | Clord | lol |
| 12:52.56 | zifoon | hmmm. i see the current speed = maximum speed (after buff calculation) |
| 12:52.59 | zifoon | that's gay |
| 12:53.11 | rrowland | yep |
| 12:53.36 | rrowland | lolwoah |
| 12:53.47 | rrowland | Apparently I'm going at 17 movespeed |
| 12:54.10 | zifoon | rofl that's 1700 in wc3 speed |
| 12:54.14 | rrowland | Oops |
| 12:54.18 | rrowland | Used x twice |
| 12:54.19 | rrowland | instead of xy |
| 12:54.22 | rrowland | Now that I'm using xy |
| 12:54.28 | rrowland | It's actually 170.0 speed wtf |
| 12:54.31 | rrowland | >< |
| 12:54.33 | MortalPlague | Ah well, time for me to crash |
| 12:54.36 | MortalPlague | G'night folks |
| 12:54.37 | zifoon | =_= |
| 12:54.44 | rrowland | night |
| 12:54.45 | zifoon | he's gonna crash pplz |
| 12:54.52 | MortalPlague | =P |
| 12:55.00 | MortalPlague | Big explosion |
| 12:56.45 | Clord | oh and more giant unit is |
| 12:56.49 | Clord | farther it can shoot |
| 12:56.54 | Clord | and take hits from larger area |
| 12:56.54 | Clord | XD |
| 12:57.00 | Clord | technically |
| 12:57.40 | zifoon | rrowland are you using periodic event? |
| 12:58.06 | zifoon | just simple distance between function |
| 12:58.07 | zifoon | =_= |
| 12:58.21 | zifoon | divide by periodic time interval |
| 12:58.34 | Beider | ack |
| 12:58.53 | Beider | I just spent 3 hours designing a userinterface only to find out the UI I wanted to do wouldn't work |
| 12:58.59 | Beider | yay for re-designing woo! |
| 12:59.44 | zifoon | yeah... that's what happens in End User programming where we don't even start to think about feasibility before hand |
| 13:00.58 | Beider | well it was more that list boxes doesn't actually work |
| 13:01.11 | Beider | I designed my UI around using a list box, but list boxes doesn't work very well |
| 13:01.24 | zifoon | there is a list box? |
| 13:01.28 | Beider | so now I have to fake my own list box using a button as a slider and creating the code for it myself |
| 13:01.28 | Beider | yes |
| 13:01.33 | Beider | but you can't hook any events to it |
| 13:01.43 | zifoon | haven't even tried it |
| 13:01.49 | Beider | you can read what is selected in it, but you have no way of knowing if selection changes, except for a periodic event |
| 13:01.53 | Beider | so it's fairly useless |
| 13:01.59 | zifoon | which function is it? |
| 13:02.26 | Beider | Create Dialog Item |
| 13:02.33 | Beider | then select listbox type (Don't use the preset ones) |
| 13:02.38 | Beider | you got a slider, progress bar and list box |
| 13:02.43 | Beider | but slider doesn't work |
| 13:02.45 | Beider | neither does list box |
| 13:03.18 | Beider | my UI is going to be freaking advanced though, such a pain |
| 13:03.50 | zifoon | I'm not just sure I would want listbox within a game though |
| 13:03.58 | zifoon | but that' my personal preference I guess |
| 13:04.05 | zifoon | that's* |
| 13:04.18 | Beider | well depends on what you are making |
| 13:04.21 | Beider | for what I am making you need it |
| 13:04.55 | zifoon | Personal preference means, I don't play games with listboxes x_x |
| 13:05.19 | zifoon | I guess if you make one for referee view that would be nice |
| 13:05.30 | Beider | so if a game is totally awesome, but has a list box you wouldn't play it |
| 13:05.33 | Beider | that just seems stupid |
| 13:05.45 | zifoon | If starcraft had listboxes yes |
| 13:05.53 | Beider | the single player will have them |
| 13:05.57 | Beider | so you won't play single player then? |
| 13:06.11 | zifoon | no that's not what I mean |
| 13:06.13 | zifoon | think about it |
| 13:06.18 | zifoon | if it's vital part of the game |
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| 13:06.41 | zifoon | it will deter pace, unless it's a game where you need to deter pace a little |
| 13:06.54 | zifoon | which I don't like |
| 13:07.01 | zifoon | but as I said it's my personal preference |
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| 13:10.34 | Azu | lols |
| 13:10.47 | Azu | just played a 1v1 melee map |
| 13:11.01 | Azu | my probes won for me :P |
| 13:11.12 | Azu | baserace (y) |
| 13:12.55 | rrowland | lol |
| 13:13.59 | Beider | btw, does anyone know if galaxy passes by reference or value? |
| 13:13.59 | Azu | :p |
| 13:14.13 | rrowland | Value if it's a value |
| 13:14.17 | rrowland | Reference if it's a refence |
| 13:14.23 | rrowland | for instance point is a reference |
| 13:14.24 | rrowland | int is a value |
| 13:14.39 | Beider | I am creating a linked list of custom records |
| 13:14.48 | Beider | So should be reference then |
| 13:14.58 | Beider | hopefully, else it will be painful for the memory |
| 13:14.59 | rrowland | Yes |
| 13:15.11 | rrowland | there is a reference table limit though |
| 13:15.18 | rrowland | A lot smaller than the array limit |
| 13:15.52 | Azu | ive played 3 games |
| 13:15.53 | Azu | random |
| 13:16.02 | Beider | hmm |
| 13:16.02 | Azu | gotten protoss 3/3 >_> |
| 13:16.06 | Beider | how small are we talking? |
| 13:16.18 | Beider | I don't think I will be passing around more than max 100 references at once |
| 13:16.27 | Beider | hopefully it will be fine |
| 13:16.38 | rrowland | No that's fine |
| 13:16.46 | Beider | know what the array limit is? |
| 13:16.53 | rrowland | I had 256x256 which filled up and 168x168 which didn't |
| 13:16.58 | rrowland | For references |
| 13:17.13 | Beider | hmm |
| 13:17.34 | Beider | ah we will see |
| 13:17.38 | Beider | hopefully it won't fill up |
| 13:18.40 | rrowland | heh my 1 phoenix kills all 10 mutas without getting hit once now |
| 13:18.47 | rrowland | Gonna try 200/200 mutas |
| 13:19.14 | bam_ftw | could anyone tell me how can i make unit behave like worker so it wont attack unles ordered? |
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| 13:19.24 | Demonette | Hi guys |
| 13:19.26 | Demonette | someone here? |
| 13:19.28 | rrowland | hallo |
| 13:19.33 | Demonette | =) |
| 13:19.43 | Demonette | You made a cool AI =) |
| 13:19.48 | rrowland | ty |
| 13:19.59 | Beider | makemuta surround micro then :P |
| 13:20.07 | Beider | so mutas spread out and surround the phoenix |
| 13:20.11 | rrowland | bam_ftw You want to change its acquired behavior to passive instead of aggressive |
| 13:20.24 | rrowland | Well I'm only making protoss micro for now :P |
| 13:20.52 | rrowland | acquired something or other |
| 13:20.56 | rrowland | It's on the Unit in data editor |
| 13:21.14 | bam_ftw | thx |
| 13:23.41 | MavercK | lol. |
| 13:23.50 | MavercK | ai would actually be able to stack mutas.... |
| 13:24.13 | MavercK | wouldn't that just annoy you as a player |
| 13:24.59 | Beider | it would be almost impossible to beat a perfect micro muta harassing computer |
| 13:25.11 | Demonette | =D |
| 13:25.17 | Demonette | that would be great =) |
| 13:25.19 | Beider | if it never went into range of any of your units but constantly had groups of mutas flying all over the map looking for things to shoot |
| 13:25.21 | Demonette | Imba AI =D |
| 13:25.38 | MavercK | then you'd get 2 AIs and put em against each other ! |
| 13:25.55 | MavercK | brilliant ! |
| 13:26.00 | Beider | neither wuold win in that case |
| 13:26.00 | MavercK | i expect in done within the hour ! |
| 13:26.08 | MavercK | :P |
| 13:26.09 | Beider | if it is programmed to only go into range of units that can't shoot back |
| 13:26.23 | Beider | their mutas would just be bouncing around not going into range of each other |
| 13:26.32 | MavercK | they'd ignore each other eventually |
| 13:26.44 | MavercK | but anyway, fun idea. |
| 13:27.10 | Demonette | Mmmhh is there a function in the Trigger editor that gives you the gas or mineral costs of a unittype? |
| 13:27.11 | rrowland | lol This is lagging my computer |
| 13:27.21 | rrowland | 200 mutas vs 1 phoenix |
| 13:27.25 | MavercK | lol |
| 13:27.28 | rrowland | It hasn't been hit yet |
| 13:27.36 | MavercK | nice |
| 13:27.53 | Demonette | destroied by lag ^^ |
| 13:28.04 | rrowland | I think it might not ever finish |
| 13:28.05 | rrowland | hahaha |
| 13:28.12 | rrowland | Since the mutas slowly regen hp |
| 13:28.15 | rrowland | and there are 100 of them |
| 13:29.41 | rrowland | I should turn off muta's hp regen |
| 13:29.56 | rrowland | Just to show that 1 phoenix can kill 100 mutas without taking damage |
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| 13:35.42 | Fukle | Hey, is there like a space doodad for a floating rock? Meteor or something. |
| 13:38.47 | Demonette | Why you don't take a rock? |
| 13:39.54 | Demonette | set it hight to the floating hight and then it should be fine? or do him to have a rotating? |
| 13:48.14 | rrowland | whew how long was that |
| 13:50.18 | rrowland | 12 minutes |
| 13:50.31 | rrowland | For 1 phoenix to kill 10 mutas with no hp regen and level 3 air weapons |
| 13:50.39 | rrowland | 100 mutas* |
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| 13:50.49 | crazyfingers | hmm, you could probably replace a unit's model with a spinning asteroid |
| 13:50.57 | crazyfingers | might not work but you never know |
| 13:51.11 | crazyfingers | then have the unit move around |
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| 14:07.09 | Hati | hehe ppl complaining about DotA :P |
| 14:07.48 | crazyfingers | people love to complain |
| 14:08.03 | wOlfLinG | ya |
| 14:08.50 | wOlfLinG | btw, mah squad dota is almost done (and no, its not loads of rickrolls playing at once xD) |
| 14:09.16 | crazyfingers | squad dota? |
| 14:09.48 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/ion-cannon-wars/. Ion Cannon Wars. Quickshot14 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 14:09.51 | wOlfLinG | Dota, but without heros. Instead you get squads of units |
| 14:10.10 | crazyfingers | hmm... interesting... so you don't level skills or get items? |
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| 14:10.19 | wOlfLinG | Its quite clever how it decides how many units to spawn |
| 14:10.40 | wOlfLinG | Well, im going to add upgrades etc and items in another version |
| 14:10.53 | crazyfingers | I'm working on a very dota inspired map, hoping to have a playable demo within a few weeks |
| 14:11.08 | crazyfingers | but my gut tells me not to release it till it's actually worth playing haha |
| 14:11.24 | wOlfLinG | right now you gain around 5 minerals every second, and some for killing units. Then when you have 1000, you get another squad |
| 14:12.10 | crazyfingers | hmm, sounds like the winning squad would dominate after a little while |
| 14:12.15 | crazyfingers | like a race to 1000 |
| 14:12.21 | crazyfingers | then you have a HUGE advantage |
| 14:13.49 | wOlfLinG | Nah, not really. The killing of units doesnt give too much advantage |
| 14:14.23 | wOlfLinG | Plus it depends on what type of unit you get |
| 14:15.01 | wOlfLinG | for instance 10 hellions can beat 2000 supply worth of zerglings |
| 14:15.02 | crazyfingers | well could be fun, haven't tried it obviously ;) |
| 14:15.09 | wOlfLinG | not supply, mineral cost xD |
| 14:15.48 | crazyfingers | haha, that doesn't sound much like dota |
| 14:16.09 | wOlfLinG | Well, squad arena then :) |
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| 14:18.20 | wOlfLinG | I do like the way ive put set my triggers out. Means i can just add another resource value without having to change much, or just copy and paste the spawning stuff to get a new unit. (May do a hero squad arena soon. Will make it very easy to do ;)) |
| 14:18.31 | Fukle | Hey who here is good with WASD movement I am having trouble with rotating a unit. |
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| 14:18.43 | Ka[L]ekin | Fukle? |
| 14:18.46 | Ka[L]ekin | How so? |
| 14:18.59 | Fukle | Like, W moves the unit in the direction it's facing |
| 14:19.02 | Fukle | and A rotates it left |
| 14:19.08 | Fukle | and D rotates it right. |
| 14:19.29 | Ka[L]ekin | Okey dokes |
| 14:19.34 | Fukle | I am wondering if there is a simple and smooth way of doing it |
| 14:19.35 | Ka[L]ekin | And what is the issue? |
| 14:19.47 | Fukle | well the unit is really choppy |
| 14:19.49 | Fukle | when rotating |
| 14:19.57 | Fukle | and it rotates slowly |
| 14:20.13 | Ka[L]ekin | how are you rotating it at the moment? |
| 14:20.24 | Ka[L]ekin | What trigger are you using to turn it |
| 14:20.27 | A1win | something like turn Unit to face angle (facing angle of Unit + x) over 0.1 seconds |
| 14:20.42 | Fukle | D Step |
| 14:20.44 | Fukle | eh |
| 14:20.47 | Fukle | wait 1 sec |
| 14:20.52 | Fukle | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.03 | Ka[L]ekin | don't make it 0 |
| 14:21.04 | A1win | that bugs if your angle is 0 |
| 14:21.15 | Ka[L]ekin | set the duration |
| 14:21.20 | Fukle | What do you mean? |
| 14:21.21 | Ka[L]ekin | to something like 0.1 seconds |
| 14:21.22 | A1win | or dos it |
| 14:21.23 | A1win | nvm |
| 14:21.23 | Fukle | Over 0 seconds? |
| 14:21.23 | Ka[L]ekin | or 0.05 |
| 14:21.25 | A1win | *does |
| 14:21.32 | Ka[L]ekin | Yeah, change that |
| 14:21.34 | Fukle | k |
| 14:21.40 | Ka[L]ekin | that should stop making it choppy |
| 14:21.44 | A1win | if you check the trigger every 0.1 seconds, make it turn over 0.1 seconds |
| 14:22.03 | Fukle | Okay let me test. |
| 14:22.36 | A1win | or actually it doesn't matter if you set it even higher than the period you check the trigger |
| 14:22.44 | Fukle | hmm |
| 14:22.49 | Fukle | It's not choppy. |
| 14:22.52 | Fukle | But it turns slowly. |
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| 14:22.55 | Ka[L]ekin | but still very slow? |
| 14:22.58 | Ka[L]ekin | okay well |
| 14:23.08 | Ka[L]ekin | that 3.0 you have |
| 14:23.15 | Ka[L]ekin | try up it to like, 15 |
| 14:23.51 | Fukle | hmm maybe I should just give you my map, I think it has something to do with the moving forward trigger |
| 14:23.54 | A1win | 3 degrees in 0.1 seconds is 30 degrees in 1 second, 180 degrees in 6 seconds, 360 degrees in 12 seconds |
| 14:24.00 | Fukle | atm I have Unit - Order Viking (Assault Mode) [19.81, 18.74] to ( Move targeting ((Position of Viking (Assault Mode) [19.81, 18.74]) offset by 3.0 towards (Facing of Viking (Assault Mode) [19.81, 18.74]) degrees)) (Replace Existing Orders) |
| 14:24.05 | Fukle | as going forward |
| 14:24.43 | A1win | actually if you order it to move, you can't turn its facing angle, or it will stop |
| 14:24.50 | A1win | so.. not quite sure how you should go about it |
| 14:24.51 | Ka[L]ekin | ye |
| 14:24.55 | Fukle | hmm.. |
| 14:25.01 | Ka[L]ekin | If you want to have turning while movin |
| 14:25.04 | Ka[L]ekin | you have to look at turrets |
| 14:25.05 | A1win | maybe you have to turn it using a move order too |
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| 14:25.16 | rrowland | You need to map A+W and W+D to move diagonally instead of turn |
| 14:25.19 | Fukle | k |
| 14:25.21 | Ka[L]ekin | Turrets can rotate independt of the body of a unit |
| 14:25.23 | rrowland | Same with A+S and S+D |
| 14:25.27 | Ka[L]ekin | but that is a whole nother story :p |
| 14:25.36 | Fukle | k |
| 14:25.45 | A1win | why not check how it's done in the other WASD maps? ;p |
| 14:25.50 | Ka[L]ekin | Fukle, try work with the Siege tank/immortal as an example |
| 14:25.58 | Fukle | okay |
| 14:26.08 | Fukle | and most of them are for A to move sideways |
| 14:26.09 | Fukle | ect |
| 14:26.19 | A1win | but if you turn it as a turret, the unit will keep moving to one direction while facing the other |
| 14:26.27 | A1win | I guess you don't want that |
| 14:26.29 | Ka[L]ekin | I would show you what I got Fukle but my movement is on another PC |
| 14:26.31 | Fukle | unless I made the move trigger |
| 14:26.35 | Fukle | to move then unit |
| 14:26.36 | rrowland | A alone and D alone are the only ones you want turning |
| 14:26.39 | Fukle | to the facing angle of the turret |
| 14:26.46 | rrowland | Every other combination should be a move with polar offset |
| 14:26.47 | A1win | mm |
| 14:26.58 | Fukle | I am just not sure how I would do that haha. |
| 14:27.07 | rrowland | It's pretty easy |
| 14:27.09 | A1win | with w+a, order it to move a bit to the left-forward and with w+d a bit to right-forward |
| 14:27.14 | rrowland | A lot of if statements |
| 14:27.17 | rrowland | Or a switch |
| 14:27.29 | Ka[L]ekin | Fukle, a good movement system is actually a little more complicated than what could be reasonbly explained here |
| 14:27.35 | Ka[L]ekin | Ultimately you should be tying into the data editor more |
| 14:27.39 | Ka[L]ekin | looking up the rotation speed of the unit |
| 14:27.41 | Ka[L]ekin | its acceleration |
| 14:27.43 | Ka[L]ekin | deceleration |
| 14:27.44 | Ka[L]ekin | etc |
| 14:27.52 | Fukle | k |
| 14:27.55 | Ka[L]ekin | that way you can have a flexible system that can work for many types of units |
| 14:27.59 | Ka[L]ekin | without having to fiddle with triggers |
| 14:28.03 | rrowland | Well that goes beyond the scope of input |
| 14:28.09 | rrowland | Which is all I'm prepared to explain lol |
| 14:28.14 | Fukle | lol |
| 14:28.37 | Ka[L]ekin | at the moment the movement system I have in place also maps WASD direclty to directions |
| 14:28.37 | Ka[L]ekin | but |
| 14:28.45 | rrowland | You actually don't need anything except turn rate kale |
| 14:29.04 | rrowland | Since issuing a move command will move the unit with its normal movement attributes |
| 14:29.11 | Ka[L]ekin | Depends on what you are trying to do |
| 14:29.30 | Ka[L]ekin | that's what I thought as well |
| 14:29.37 | Ka[L]ekin | untill I tried to setup movement for a vehicle |
| 14:29.41 | Fukle | Hey, with the turret thing, is the turret ans siege tank two differen't units? |
| 14:29.44 | Ka[L]ekin | that had low acceleration |
| 14:29.46 | Ka[L]ekin | low deceleration |
| 14:29.49 | Ka[L]ekin | and high max speed |
| 14:29.52 | Ka[L]ekin | it require a bit more checking |
| 14:30.04 | Fukle | and* |
| 14:30.05 | A1win | Fukle, the siege tank turret is a Turret, not a unit |
| 14:30.06 | rrowland | Its speed depends on how far you tell it to move |
| 14:30.11 | rrowland | If it's too short it'll go slower |
| 14:30.16 | Fukle | Right... |
| 14:30.18 | Fukle | I am lost now. |
| 14:30.21 | A1win | turret is a game link type.. I think |
| 14:30.24 | Fukle | So used to the wc3 editor |
| 14:30.27 | A1win | you can modify them in data editor |
| 14:30.35 | A1win | but |
| 14:30.35 | Ka[L]ekin | Fukle, turrets are a complicated beast that I don't understand fully yet |
| 14:30.38 | A1win | you don't want to use a turret |
| 14:30.45 | Ka[L]ekin | I haven't been able to solve how to rotate a turret independtly of a unit |
| 14:30.47 | Ka[L]ekin | but |
| 14:30.48 | Fukle | k |
| 14:30.54 | Ka[L]ekin | the siege tank model is one unit |
| 14:31.00 | Fukle | ah |
| 14:31.00 | Ka[L]ekin | The turret is an actor in the data editor |
| 14:31.10 | Ka[L]ekin | that connect to a point on model |
| 14:31.12 | Fukle | hmm I am kind of screwed then |
| 14:31.13 | Ka[L]ekin | and can rotate it |
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| 14:31.22 | Ka[L]ekin | and stuff |
| 14:31.23 | A1win | the data editor is insanely complex, will take a while to get used to it :P |
| 14:31.31 | Fukle | Heh yeah |
| 14:31.37 | A1win | will get easier once there's some sort of documentation of it... |
| 14:31.37 | Fukle | I miss the good ol' object editor. |
| 14:31.49 | crazyfingers | i doubt there'll be documentation |
| 14:31.54 | A1win | not from blizzard |
| 14:31.55 | crazyfingers | unless it's user made |
| 14:32.13 | Ka[L]ekin | rrowland, you need to know a units deceleration/max movement speed to figure out how far to order it |
| 14:32.22 | Fukle | hey |
| 14:32.25 | Fukle | I have an idea |
| 14:32.32 | Ka[L]ekin | Mmmmm? |
| 14:32.36 | Fukle | Is there anyway of locking two units together |
| 14:32.37 | A1win | Ka[L]ekin, why o: just order it to stop when you release the key |
| 14:32.37 | Fukle | wait |
| 14:32.41 | Fukle | What I mean is |
| 14:32.44 | Fukle | like one unit moves |
| 14:32.55 | Ka[L]ekin | A1win, because if you order a unit to stop, it stops in place |
| 14:32.55 | Fukle | while the other unit every 0.1 second |
| 14:32.56 | Fukle | is moved to the other units posi |
| 14:32.58 | Ka[L]ekin | no matter it's deceleration |
| 14:33.09 | Ka[L]ekin | so you have to calculate where to order it to stop so that it decelerates smoothly |
| 14:33.14 | Fukle | wait |
| 14:33.15 | Fukle | nvm |
| 14:33.18 | Fukle | I think I can fix it |
| 14:33.24 | A1win | pff :P |
| 14:33.27 | Fukle | brb |
| 14:33.45 | Fukle | hmmm... |
| 14:34.14 | Ka[L]ekin | Fukle, it's complicated :P |
| 14:34.15 | Fukle | Can anyone quickly explain how I could make a unit that is invisible, untargetable, unselectable and invulnerable? |
| 14:34.20 | Ka[L]ekin | You will spenda few days on getting a nice movement system |
| 14:34.26 | A1win | so your unit continues moving even when you stop giving it move input? p |
| 14:34.27 | Ka[L]ekin | and after those few days you will realise you did it all wrong |
| 14:34.27 | A1win | :p |
| 14:34.29 | Ka[L]ekin | and do it again ^_^ |
| 14:34.33 | Fukle | haha |
| 14:34.35 | Fukle | k |
| 14:34.49 | Ka[L]ekin | a1win, for vehicles, yes |
| 14:34.55 | Ka[L]ekin | they roll forward |
| 14:35.25 | Ka[L]ekin | It becomes even MORE complicated when you want to allow breaking |
| 14:35.35 | A1win | heh |
| 14:35.35 | Ka[L]ekin | because you have to calculate where to order it to stop without breaks |
| 14:35.37 | Ka[L]ekin | then with breaks |
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| 14:35.39 | Ka[L]ekin | then when no breaks are on |
| 14:35.46 | Ka[L]ekin | bit of a pain :P |
| 14:35.59 | A1win | yeah make a formula game with realistic physics |
| 14:36.59 | Zaratulius | hello i have a question how to make with a trigger to show a cirrcle around a units just the one like when i target a unit with skill |
| 14:38.37 | Ka[L]ekin | Uhm |
| 14:38.43 | Ka[L]ekin | *looks* |
| 14:39.09 | Fukle | woot |
| 14:39.10 | rrowland | It's an actor |
| 14:39.11 | Fukle | I fixed it! |
| 14:39.23 | Fukle | Well |
| 14:39.25 | Fukle | I have it working.. |
| 14:39.40 | Zaratulius | or how to make mouse cursor change with a trigger |
| 14:42.01 | Fukle | Ka[L]ekin / A1win: I now have two units, one that is in the bottem corner out of the way and a main unit, uses the W movement key and this action: Unit - Order Viking (Assault Mode) [19.81, 18.74] to ( Move targeting ((Position of Viking (Assault Mode) [19.81, 18.74]) offset by 3.0 towards (Facing of Marine [14.73, 11.82]) degrees)) (Replace Existing Orders) and the other unit in the bottem corner uses the A and |
| 14:42.04 | Fukle | unis rotation.. |
| 14:42.10 | Fukle | if you understand.. :) |
| 14:42.32 | A1win | uh, why not just use a variable? :P |
| 14:43.04 | Fukle | i dunno |
| 14:43.13 | Fukle | What do you mean? |
| 14:43.25 | A1win | instead of using a unit, store the angle into a variable :e |
| 14:43.26 | Fukle | oh |
| 14:43.30 | Fukle | I gotcha |
| 14:43.34 | Fukle | hmm that seems alot easier |
| 14:43.38 | Fukle | brb ima fix it :D |
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| 14:48.39 | exxor | I'm trying to add the prismatic beam weapon to a warp gate. I've added the weapon (with no turret, since the voidray doesn't have a turret either) and the attack ability. But it's not working, any ideas? |
| 14:51.01 | Beider | grr |
| 14:51.05 | Beider | what a strange bug |
| 14:51.27 | Beider | I have a function that creates a whole bunch of UI elements and stick them into an array... Every single item except one I can reference outside of that function |
| 14:51.33 | Beider | However that one item refuses to work |
| 14:53.58 | Beider | in fact it's the position in the array that is broken, wtf... |
| 14:54.22 | exxor | -1 or +1? |
| 14:54.28 | Beider | no |
| 14:55.12 | exxor | maybe that one element isn't actually created/added to the array? |
| 14:55.16 | Ka[L]ekin | How big is th array and how many functions are you putting in? |
| 14:55.50 | exxor | +Beider: did you make beider TD? |
| 14:55.55 | Beider | Yes |
| 14:56.00 | Beider | It is created, I can see it |
| 14:56.10 | Beider | it is added to the array as I can reference it fine in the same function that creates it |
| 14:56.20 | Beider | however once it exists the function, nothing can reference it anymore |
| 14:56.33 | Beider | it is just a really weird bug |
| 14:57.14 | exxor | and inside the function you're referencing to the array and not the last created ... |
| 14:57.26 | Ka[L]ekin | o.o |
| 14:57.30 | Beider | yes |
| 14:57.30 | Ka[L]ekin | is this through gui |
| 14:57.31 | Beider | and it works |
| 14:57.33 | Ka[L]ekin | or scrpt? |
| 14:57.35 | Beider | gui |
| 14:57.39 | Ka[L]ekin | wiiiierrrd |
| 14:57.43 | Ka[L]ekin | weeeirrd |
| 14:57.44 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 14:57.49 | Beider | yes and it is pissing me off now |
| 14:57.52 | Beider | slowing down my progress |
| 14:58.12 | Ka[L]ekin | Is this for your little robot wars? |
| 14:58.15 | Beider | yep |
| 14:58.17 | Ka[L]ekin | :) |
| 14:58.18 | exxor | lol, yeah, tell me about it, so annoying when you spend half your time trying to solve something stupid |
| 14:58.39 | Beider | The only thing I can think of is that the array can't take any more elements... however it's just 15 elements |
| 14:58.47 | Beider | and I've created arrays of the same type with way more elements |
| 14:58.57 | Beider | well |
| 14:59.05 | Ka[L]ekin | should be able to take up to a little over 6000 |
| 14:59.33 | Beider | exactly |
| 14:59.35 | exxor | ok, so try to assign it to a new variable, just try and pin it down |
| 14:59.50 | Beider | and this is 6X15 |
| 14:59.52 | Beider | so not exactly huge |
| 15:00.07 | Ka[L]ekin | you tried storing that element outside of the array |
| 15:00.09 | Ka[L]ekin | in some temp variable |
| 15:00.14 | Ka[L]ekin | test if it can be accessed from there? |
| 15:00.21 | Beider | i'll test that no |
| 15:00.22 | Beider | now |
| 15:01.52 | Beider | that worked for some reason |
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| 15:02.04 | Beider | so apparently my 6x14 array can't take more elements than that |
| 15:02.33 | Grum | are you use you are assigning the variables to actual indexes? |
| 15:02.38 | Grum | the GUI makes the arrays one to big by default |
| 15:02.46 | Grum | maybe you compensated for it and forgot to use index0 ? |
| 15:02.49 | Beider | I have a reference record with the indexes |
| 15:02.59 | Beider | I tried switching the indexes around |
| 15:03.02 | Beider | and it worked fine |
| 15:03.07 | Beider | I have no idea what broke |
| 15:03.19 | Beider | I could put another item in the same position as I tried to put the item that didn't work, and it would work |
| 15:03.26 | Beider | Something must have bugged up |
| 15:03.40 | exxor | weird, btw, where can I download your TD? |
| 15:04.12 | Beider | hmm |
| 15:04.15 | Beider | sec |
| 15:04.34 | Beider | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1586398/BeiderTD%20v0.2.SC2Map |
| 15:04.39 | Beider | it isn't balanced so it's kind of shit |
| 15:04.41 | Beider | far too easy |
| 15:04.42 | Beider | :P |
| 15:05.02 | exxor | lol, I was more intrested in the code :) |
| 15:05.17 | exxor | are you still working on it? |
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| 15:06.27 | A1win | is there a function that returns true if a unit would fit to a Point based on pathing? only found "Point is Passable" but that only checks a point |
| 15:06.38 | Beider | nope not working on it anymore |
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| 15:09.11 | Ka[L]ekin | beider, you say your elements are records? |
| 15:09.49 | rrowland | I like it when youtube cancels my upload at like 90% |
| 15:10.41 | Ka[L]ekin | nevermind, you would need massive records to run into the problem I thought it might be :p |
| 15:10.57 | Beider | Ka[L]ekin, the array is inside a record |
| 15:11.04 | Ka[L]ekin | aaaah |
| 15:11.05 | Beider | The record itself is not in an array |
| 15:11.10 | Beider | but it still should work |
| 15:11.24 | Ka[L]ekin | Who know what goes on inside Bizzaro Editor. |
| 15:11.28 | Beider | aye |
| 15:11.33 | Beider | well got it working now |
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| 15:12.14 | Beider | Just realized that you can't pass records as parameters bah |
| 15:12.21 | Kaldurenik | Good day everyone :D |
| 15:12.44 | Beider | How would the blizzard editor cope with say... 10x3000 records array? :P |
| 15:13.12 | Beider | hello Kaldurenik |
| 15:13.19 | Kaldurenik | Hey *wave* |
| 15:13.32 | Kaldurenik | Ehh maybe someone could help me with a... "small" problem :D |
| 15:13.42 | `3ICE | your penis? |
| 15:13.45 | `3ICE | haha sry |
| 15:13.46 | Beider | actually, does anyone know if there is any site with exact limitations of the editor? Like is the array limit per array or total? |
| 15:14.11 | Beider | what is your problem Kaldurenik? |
| 15:14.36 | Ka[L]ekin | `3ICE, that's terrible. |
| 15:14.39 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 15:14.52 | Ka[L]ekin | Kaldurenik, we can help if you tell us what it is. :) |
| 15:14.56 | Kaldurenik | Well... I have made a day / night cycle in the Data Editor... I have made a clock that show the time of the ingame time. |
| 15:15.18 | Kaldurenik | Now the main problem i have is that every time the clock hmm change? (the trigger for the clock is every 1sec) |
| 15:15.27 | Kaldurenik | the in game day / night time jumps 16sec |
| 15:15.58 | Kaldurenik | I want it to jump 5min... Problem is that i need like 18.75 in the TimePerLoop |
| 15:16.00 | depthsofchaos | there are 16 game loops / second |
| 15:16.14 | Ka[L]ekin | there are 32 game cycles in a second |
| 15:16.15 | Ka[L]ekin | :P |
| 15:16.25 | depthsofchaos | on faster mode |
| 15:16.37 | depthsofchaos | normal is 16 |
| 15:16.42 | Ka[L]ekin | Ah-hah. |
| 15:16.49 | rrowland | no |
| 15:16.50 | Kaldurenik | Well i short... What i want the map to do is move 5min every time. Plain simple 5 min. No more no less |
| 15:16.52 | Ka[L]ekin | I only work in fastest mode |
| 15:16.53 | Ka[L]ekin | :D |
| 15:16.55 | rrowland | no no no |
| 15:16.59 | Kaldurenik | The problem is that i cant get it to jump 5min each time |
| 15:17.19 | rrowland | Max triggers are 16 a second, max waits are 32 a second |
| 15:17.24 | rrowland | If you use game time |
| 15:17.30 | Ka[L]ekin | Kaldurenik, you want it to cycle 5 minutes for every 1 seconf of real time? |
| 15:17.33 | rrowland | It's 23 for triggers and 46 for waits |
| 15:17.49 | rrowland | on faster |
| 15:17.55 | Kaldurenik | Yes in game time should cycle 5min for every 1sec no mather what the game speed is. If that is a problem i will just force it on normal or faster |
| 15:18.21 | Kaldurenik | Problem is that i have tried to change from Slower to Faster |
| 15:18.27 | Kaldurenik | the only change is that 1sec take more "time" |
| 15:18.39 | Ka[L]ekin | You want to use real time then |
| 15:18.40 | Ka[L]ekin | not game time |
| 15:19.10 | depthsofchaos | you have to change the time that passes per game loop |
| 15:19.15 | Beider | 12 human players is maximum right? |
| 15:19.16 | depthsofchaos | divide it by 16 |
| 15:19.16 | Kaldurenik | ok i could try that... But then i still need it to jump 5min each time (300sec) |
| 15:19.22 | Ka[L]ekin | Beider, at the moment I believe |
| 15:19.24 | Beider | k |
| 15:19.36 | Ka[L]ekin | however if you look at some of the triggers in the editor |
| 15:19.43 | Ka[L]ekin | they use MAXIMUM_PLAYER_COUNT as 32 |
| 15:19.52 | Ka[L]ekin | something they might open up in the future? |
| 15:20.00 | Kaldurenik | Maybe a expansion? |
| 15:20.06 | Ka[L]ekin | Who knows |
| 15:20.07 | Kaldurenik | They have said they want to add new features |
| 15:20.10 | Kaldurenik | With them so... |
| 15:20.14 | Ka[L]ekin | I base all my systems on 32 players though |
| 15:20.17 | Ka[L]ekin | just incase :p |
| 15:20.20 | Kaldurenik | :) |
| 15:20.28 | Beider | ack this array and record limit is a pain |
| 15:20.55 | Beider | Creating a custom ingame programming language, planned on using a linked list of records for the code |
| 15:21.17 | Beider | However might be too limiting |
| 15:21.22 | Kaldurenik | So do anyone know of a way to change the nr of loops in one sec? |
| 15:21.23 | Beider | needs to think of something clever |
| 15:22.05 | wOlfLinG | If i end game in victory for player 1, then pick each player and end game in defeat for them, would player 1 then get defeated or stay victorious? |
| 15:22.07 | Ka[L]ekin | Kaldurenik, If you want your system to work at the same timings regardless of the game speed |
| 15:22.19 | Ka[L]ekin | you want your Timers to work off Real Time and not Game Time |
| 15:22.37 | Kaldurenik | Yes but... it still jumps 16sec every 1sec when i tried it now |
| 15:22.50 | Kaldurenik | (and that is with the lowest nr i have found) |
| 15:23.01 | Ka[L]ekin | >_< |
| 15:23.04 | Ka[L]ekin | I am confused |
| 15:23.12 | wOlfLinG | anyone? |
| 15:23.13 | Ka[L]ekin | I am trying to read through what you said |
| 15:23.17 | Ka[L]ekin | to figure out how your triggers are working |
| 15:23.30 | Kaldurenik | Well its based on the Data Editor |
| 15:23.43 | Kaldurenik | the "clock" converts the day / night cycle time from in game |
| 15:23.44 | A1win | wOlfLinG, quite sure it'd stay as victory since the player has already left the game at that point |
| 15:23.50 | Kaldurenik | to a time shown on the screen |
| 15:23.58 | Kaldurenik | The problem is not the clock itself |
| 15:24.06 | Ka[L]ekin | It's that the cycle is too slow |
| 15:24.07 | wOlfLinG | ive changed it to active players just to be sure |
| 15:24.08 | Ka[L]ekin | ? |
| 15:24.19 | Kaldurenik | the problem is that the minium time the "day / night" cycle jumps 16sec / 1sec |
| 15:24.24 | Kaldurenik | And i cant go lower then that |
| 15:24.28 | Ka[L]ekin | Aaaaah. |
| 15:24.32 | Kaldurenik | I want it to jump 5min |
| 15:24.43 | Kaldurenik | Problem is that if i increase it to the "loop" with 1 |
| 15:24.47 | Kaldurenik | it will add 16sec |
| 15:24.49 | Kaldurenik | so im at 32 |
| 15:24.50 | Kaldurenik | -.- |
| 15:24.52 | depthsofchaos | use change lighting instead of data editor |
| 15:24.55 | depthsofchaos | theres a trigge |
| 15:24.57 | depthsofchaos | r |
| 15:25.02 | depthsofchaos | and it takes seconds |
| 15:25.07 | rrowland | Just make a loop |
| 15:25.07 | Kaldurenik | So i can never get to 5min / sec |
| 15:25.12 | rrowland | That runs 300 times |
| 15:25.20 | Kaldurenik | Sooo basicly |
| 15:25.20 | Beider | Did anyone check if there is a limit for the length of a string? |
| 15:25.26 | Kaldurenik | Throw the data editor out the window |
| 15:25.29 | Kaldurenik | make it with triggers :P? |
| 15:25.37 | Ka[L]ekin | Herasy |
| 15:25.44 | depthsofchaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.53 | depthsofchaos | might work |
| 15:26.01 | Ka[L]ekin | I have never done any day night cycle work |
| 15:26.05 | Ka[L]ekin | I am trying to take a look quick |
| 15:26.13 | Ka[L]ekin | you should be doing as much as you can through the data editor Kald |
| 15:26.25 | Ka[L]ekin | forcing it through triggers are a last resort :P |
| 15:26.27 | Kaldurenik | Yeah that is what i tried :D |
| 15:26.38 | Ka[L]ekin | I can't imagine why 16/1 is the lowest you can go |
| 15:26.46 | Ka[L]ekin | I mean, War3 ran much faster than that, no? |
| 15:26.48 | Kaldurenik | Anyway the thing you are looking for is "light" |
| 15:26.56 | depthsofchaos | launching a process with triggers is what its meant for :o |
| 15:26.56 | Kaldurenik | in the data editor |
| 15:27.31 | Ka[L]ekin | so your time per game loop |
| 15:27.33 | Ka[L]ekin | is set to 16 atm? |
| 15:27.36 | Kaldurenik | No 1 |
| 15:27.43 | Kaldurenik | and then it jump 16 |
| 15:27.46 | Kaldurenik | If i set it to 2 |
| 15:27.49 | Kaldurenik | it go to 32 |
| 15:28.02 | Kaldurenik | and so on :) |
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| 15:28.46 | depthsofchaos | you cant go lower with that obviously unless you make the 2 lighting phases 00:01 and midnight |
| 15:28.52 | depthsofchaos | would be slower but still |
| 15:29.26 | depthsofchaos | but why would you need such slow light changing |
| 15:29.33 | Kaldurenik | Well i know about that i have planned to use...8 times when the light change |
| 15:29.39 | depthsofchaos | were talking about half hourish cycle here |
| 15:29.56 | Kaldurenik | Sooo i want one "day" in game |
| 15:30.14 | depthsofchaos | how long is your game? |
| 15:30.21 | depthsofchaos | cant be mre than half an hour |
| 15:30.32 | depthsofchaos | or an hour |
| 15:30.40 | Kaldurenik | I want one "day" |
| 15:30.43 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hobrows-zerg-defence/. Hobrows Zerg Defence. Hobrow (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 15:30.48 | Kaldurenik | 00-> 00 to be 5 irl min |
| 15:31.10 | depthsofchaos | 5 minutes? |
| 15:31.17 | Kaldurenik | and i want the yes |
| 15:31.23 | Kaldurenik | blah |
| 15:31.23 | Kaldurenik | :D |
| 15:31.27 | depthsofchaos | then i dun get your problem |
| 15:31.37 | depthsofchaos | i made my map 24 minute |
| 15:31.44 | depthsofchaos | 1 cycle under tha game |
| 15:32.23 | depthsofchaos | and the time that passes is 2 second/ loop |
| 15:33.19 | Kaldurenik | 1sec :D |
| 15:35.24 | Xan | is there any way to make a unit path -around- a region when you order it to the other side of it - but path into it if you order it inside it? |
| 15:35.25 | wOlfLinG | wth? I need to redownload the patch? |
| 15:35.29 | exxor | when using the prismatic beam weapon, it sometimes leaves a horizotal thin beam texture... and it stays there... does anyone know how to gegt rid of these? |
| 15:36.27 | Kaldurenik | Ok i will try to explain it better now :D |
| 15:36.36 | Ka[L]ekin | Kaldurenik, I am still confused. :P |
| 15:36.37 | wOlfLinG | patch 15 already O_o |
| 15:36.39 | Ka[L]ekin | Because from what I would think |
| 15:36.40 | Kaldurenik | One "day" in the game is 288sec. |
| 15:36.46 | Ka[L]ekin | Upping the Time Per Game Loop |
| 15:36.54 | Ka[L]ekin | would make the time of day move faster in game |
| 15:36.56 | Kaldurenik | For it to work correctly over a 24 "in game hours" |
| 15:37.21 | Kaldurenik | the in game time would need to step forward 5min (in game) every 1sec |
| 15:37.39 | exxor | the texture is created when the beam enteres a new stage, so once it's in stage 3, there are 3 of these textures on the stop where the attacking target was at the time the beam entered the new stage |
| 15:37.46 | Kaldurenik | If it do that then 24 hours will have passed when 288sec have passed |
| 15:37.51 | Kaldurenik | In other words 1 day |
| 15:37.58 | Kaldurenik | The problem is that the loop |
| 15:38.07 | depthsofchaos | cant be fraction |
| 15:38.15 | depthsofchaos | i know but i just showed you the trigger |
| 15:38.15 | Kaldurenik | Make the time move forward 16sec for every 1point increased |
| 15:38.27 | Kaldurenik | Sooo |
| 15:38.37 | Kaldurenik | For it to take 5min ingame time steps in the day / night cycle |
| 15:38.40 | Kaldurenik | I need |
| 15:38.56 | Hati | did they changed the logo of GE ? |
| 15:38.58 | Hati | if you start it |
| 15:39.03 | Kaldurenik | 18.75 |
| 15:39.11 | Kaldurenik | In "loops" |
| 15:39.17 | Kaldurenik | That is my problem :) |
| 15:39.33 | Kaldurenik | The ingame time cant move 5min T.T |
| 15:40.09 | exxor | kaldurenik: sorry, just catching on to your problem, but where/by who is a day defined as 288 seconds? |
| 15:40.19 | Kaldurenik | Math ;) |
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| 15:41.03 | Hati | uhm ... someone else unable to load terrain since p15 ? |
| 15:41.06 | Kaldurenik | Basicly i decided this... |
| 15:41.18 | Kaldurenik | I want the game time to move forward 5min every real life sec |
| 15:41.25 | Ka[L]ekin | Kaldurenik |
| 15:41.30 | Kaldurenik | Yes :D? |
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| 15:41.36 | Ka[L]ekin | Then isn't that just a matter of setting Game Time Per Loop |
| 15:41.39 | Ka[L]ekin | to 5 minutes? |
| 15:41.45 | Kaldurenik | Cant :( |
| 15:41.47 | Ka[L]ekin | Time per game loop |
| 15:41.50 | Kaldurenik | Unless my timer is bugged |
| 15:41.55 | Ka[L]ekin | I just set mine to 5 minutes |
| 15:42.04 | Kaldurenik | Then it shows that you can only increase it by 16 |
| 15:42.09 | Kaldurenik | you meant in the |
| 15:42.14 | Kaldurenik | [00][00][00] |
| 15:42.15 | Kaldurenik | windows |
| 15:42.25 | Kaldurenik | you put it as [00][05][00] |
| 15:42.29 | Ka[L]ekin | ye |
| 15:42.32 | Kaldurenik | Ye |
| 15:42.38 | Kaldurenik | problem is that it increase the time with |
| 15:42.39 | Kaldurenik | err |
| 15:42.42 | Xan | terran nerfs lol |
| 15:42.46 | Kaldurenik | wait i will check what the timer say :D |
| 15:42.51 | Ka[L]ekin | >_< |
| 15:43.05 | Ka[L]ekin | laptop is nearly dead |
| 15:43.23 | Kaldurenik | Ah yes |
| 15:43.25 | Kaldurenik | Now i remember |
| 15:43.26 | Kaldurenik | :D |
| 15:43.36 | Kaldurenik | If you write "[01][00][00] |
| 15:43.38 | Hati | scary oO |
| 15:43.38 | Kaldurenik | The time ingame |
| 15:43.42 | Kaldurenik | Will jump forward |
| 15:43.46 | Kaldurenik | 16hours every 1 sec |
| 15:43.51 | Kaldurenik | Soo |
| 15:43.58 | Ka[L]ekin | aaah |
| 15:43.58 | Ka[L]ekin | okay |
| 15:44.12 | Kaldurenik | If you write [00][05][00] it will jump 80min |
| 15:44.13 | Ka[L]ekin | well then you are buggered :p |
| 15:44.20 | Kaldurenik | Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo T.T |
| 15:44.20 | Ka[L]ekin | Unless you run the game at normal speed |
| 15:44.21 | exxor | you just wanted to cycle through one day in 30 mins, right? |
| 15:44.28 | Ka[L]ekin | no wait |
| 15:44.30 | Ka[L]ekin | even at normal speed |
| 15:44.32 | Ka[L]ekin | buggered :D |
| 15:44.37 | Kaldurenik | holdon |
| 15:44.39 | Kaldurenik | 2sec :D |
| 15:44.41 | Ka[L]ekin | You need a fractional time |
| 15:44.46 | Ka[L]ekin | you would need a lower speed |
| 15:44.56 | depthsofchaos | i told you the solution, just stop ignoring it youre boring :o |
| 15:45.34 | exxor | anyone on my prismatic beam issue? ;) |
| 15:45.38 | exxor | :) even |
| 15:45.43 | Ka[L]ekin | depthsofchaos, you do it by forcing a lighting transition? |
| 15:46.08 | depthsofchaos | it would be the easiest |
| 15:46.09 | Kaldurenik | Eh exxor... basicly in 288 real life sec i want it to be one day / night cycle |
| 15:46.12 | Kaldurenik | And yes |
| 15:46.13 | Ka[L]ekin | easiest |
| 15:46.20 | Ka[L]ekin | but not ideal :p |
| 15:46.20 | Kaldurenik | It look like i will have to do it with triggers |
| 15:46.21 | Kaldurenik | T.T |
| 15:46.25 | depthsofchaos | why not ideal? |
| 15:46.31 | Ka[L]ekin | I understand Kaldurenik's desire to do it without triggers |
| 15:46.35 | Ka[L]ekin | because triggers should be a last resort |
| 15:46.41 | Ka[L]ekin | when you cannot do it through data editor/map settings |
| 15:46.45 | depthsofchaos | youre using a trigger every second |
| 15:46.47 | depthsofchaos | rofl |
| 15:46.58 | Ka[L]ekin | ? |
| 15:47.06 | depthsofchaos | i mean kalduren |
| 15:47.20 | depthsofchaos | and no trigers arent last resort |
| 15:47.27 | Ka[L]ekin | They should be |
| 15:47.30 | Ka[L]ekin | they are rigid |
| 15:47.41 | Ka[L]ekin | and they are a pain to manage when you work on a large project |
| 15:47.45 | exxor | ka[l]enkin: I use the data editor as a last resort ;) |
| 15:47.46 | Ka[L]ekin | that is exactly why the data editor exsists |
| 15:47.52 | depthsofchaos | a pain to start 1 action ? |
| 15:47.52 | A1win | I don't understand the big deal of not using triggers whenever possible, maybe if it was a system that just wouldn't run smoothly and it'd need to be optimized.. but otherwise there's no point |
| 15:47.54 | depthsofchaos | once? |
| 15:47.57 | Ka[L]ekin | and exactly why it has the flexability it does |
| 15:48.18 | Ka[L]ekin | depthsofchaos, all I say is that I understand his desire to do it through the data editor |
| 15:48.20 | Ka[L]ekin | why do it with a trigger |
| 15:48.22 | Ka[L]ekin | when it can be done without any? |
| 15:48.27 | Ka[L]ekin | if it can't be done without any |
| 15:48.30 | Ka[L]ekin | then do it with a trigger |
| 15:48.31 | Ka[L]ekin | simple |
| 15:48.43 | Kaldurenik | Yeah i will just make it with triggers oh well |
| 15:48.45 | Ka[L]ekin | but why make a trigger when you don't have to |
| 15:48.46 | A1win | if it's easier with a trigger, then I use a trigger |
| 15:48.52 | depthsofchaos | well it cant be cause you cant give fractions of seconds in the game loops section |
| 15:48.53 | Ka[L]ekin | it's easier because you know triggers |
| 15:48.54 | Kaldurenik | Atleast i wont sit and bash my head against a wall trying to fix it |
| 15:48.56 | Ka[L]ekin | and don't know the data editor |
| 15:49.06 | Ka[L]ekin | depthsofchaos, in this case, a trigger is the answer |
| 15:49.19 | Ka[L]ekin | but your first goal should be to try and make it work without it :p |
| 15:49.30 | Ka[L]ekin | Well, that's just how I feel about it. |
| 15:49.31 | depthsofchaos | i always do that :p |
| 15:49.35 | exxor | I use triggers a lot because I want to do the same logic with different values |
| 15:49.36 | Ka[L]ekin | anyway, laptop is dying |
| 15:49.46 | Ka[L]ekin | be around in a bit |
| 15:49.51 | depthsofchaos | but for simple tasks and not periodic i dont mind triggers |
| 15:50.44 | A1win | Ka[L]ekin, yeah.. what's your point? ;p I should learn to use the data editor as well as I know triggers before even trying to map anything? :e |
| 15:50.59 | Kaldurenik | Hmm |
| 15:51.10 | exxor | let me take a picture of what's going on with the prismatic beam. anyone know a place when I can very easaly upload a pic to share? |
| 15:51.49 | Xan | imgshack |
| 15:52.18 | `3ICE | http://www.google.com/search?q=free+image+hosting :) |
| 15:52.48 | `3ICE | idk why I added free. never heard of pay-to-host-image sites... http://www.google.com/search?q=image+hosting |
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| 15:55.46 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/twisted-metalcraft/. Twisted Metalcraft. MiketheSspike (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 15:56.17 | Hati | meh :( |
| 15:56.26 | `3ICE | meh |
| 15:57.07 | Hati | can't start terrain editor (with terrain) |
| 15:57.16 | Hati | empty maps / mods work ... |
| 15:57.22 | depthsofchaos | has anyone seen these? |
| 15:57.23 | depthsofchaos | http://bbs.islga.org/read-htm-tid-39843-page-e.html |
| 15:57.31 | depthsofchaos | if so could you guys use them ingame? |
| 15:57.36 | Kaldurenik | Maybe i have found a way to fix it O.o |
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| 15:58.30 | Hati | depthsofchaos: they should still be in just look up all doodads |
| 15:58.40 | `3ICE | models*? |
| 15:58.42 | depthsofchaos | they are blank |
| 15:58.55 | depthsofchaos | only the placeholder appears |
| 16:00.31 | `3ICE | yeah, they have been nulled in a patch |
| 16:00.36 | Hati | Kaldurenik: the editor freeze? |
| 16:01.00 | depthsofchaos | oh :/ i guess no one saved them :p |
| 16:01.19 | Hati | they are in a patch asset pre p13 |
| 16:01.23 | Hati | or editor release patch |
| 16:01.27 | Hati | p11 |
| 16:01.43 | Kaldurenik | Oh no i meant with my problem with the day / night cycle |
| 16:01.47 | depthsofchaos | so id have to reinstall my game to get them ?:o |
| 16:01.48 | Kaldurenik | But it did not work T.T |
| 16:02.45 | exxor | ok, so these textures are spawned when the prismatic beam enters a new stage (3 total) http://yfrog.com/b8screenshotifj |
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| 16:04.09 | Kaldurenik | Here i was hoping that if i was clever and forced the game day length to 288 real life sec |
| 16:04.17 | Kaldurenik | That it would force the game to jump 5min each time |
| 16:04.17 | `3ICE | checked 3 patches back, no model |
| 16:04.24 | Kaldurenik | Sadly it jumped 7min 14sec or soemthing like that |
| 16:04.27 | Kaldurenik | *sigh* T.T |
| 16:04.34 | depthsofchaos | too bad, thanks |
| 16:05.01 | exxor | anyone on how to prevent this? :| |
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| 16:07.49 | Kaldurenik | Hmm |
| 16:08.02 | Kaldurenik | Have you tried to edit the beam in the data editor |
| 16:08.56 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/pride-water-3v3-daytime/. Pride Water 3v3 Daytime. MiketheSspike (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
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| 16:10.58 | exxor | also, they go away after the 5 second delay for the stage to go back to 1 |
| 16:11.18 | Sixen | Hey, I remember that, 3ICE. |
| 16:11.27 | Sixen | We posted news about that and used that mdoel back before GE :) |
| 16:12.16 | nicoli_s | hey sixen, we are going to be doing a news post on MWE soon btw |
| 16:12.29 | nicoli_s | a coming soon sort of preview thing with screenshots and info and such |
| 16:13.18 | Sixen | orly? |
| 16:13.36 | nicoli_s | yah sholdak is working on it now |
| 16:18.28 | xttocs | Hey Sixen |
| 16:19.03 | Sixen | Rawr. |
| 16:19.09 | Sixen | What's up~ |
| 16:19.45 | Hati | slaps GE. |
| 16:20.48 | xttocs | Status report!? |
| 16:21.09 | Sixen | Fueled up and ready to go. |
| 16:21.12 | nicoli_s | huh xttocs? |
| 16:22.14 | xttocs | haha |
| 16:22.52 | xttocs | Everything go well in ATL? |
| 16:23.11 | Hati | good to see that GE uses 43 threads :x |
| 16:23.22 | Sixen | =o |
| 16:23.34 | Hati | Thread 43/43 (ID:3848 Stack:0x108A0000 + 1,048,576) |
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| 16:24.54 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 16:24.56 | xttocs | I hope there is someone named monologue too |
| 16:25.03 | nicoli_s | atl was atl, same old same old |
| 16:25.11 | xttocs | were you here for the freak rain storm |
| 16:25.15 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 16:25.19 | xttocs | Nice |
| 16:25.28 | xttocs | I was surprised it didn't hail |
| 16:25.31 | nicoli_s | had to drive through it for a while, or eather my gf did |
| 16:25.36 | nicoli_s | and it was raining when e left here too |
| 16:25.40 | nicoli_s | fucking depressing |
| 16:25.42 | xttocs | That sucks |
| 16:26.33 | nicoli_s | oh well though, luckily now all my atl friends are coming here next week for bonnaroo! |
| 16:26.49 | Sixen | Jesus rrowland. You're the man. |
| 16:27.00 | xttocs | nicoli_s, I hate you |
| 16:27.03 | Sixen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG--MIlkC5g |
| 16:27.16 | rrowland | haha You got that already? |
| 16:27.21 | nicoli_s | why? i paid for these bitches like 6 months in advance, fucking 'spensive tickets |
| 16:27.22 | rrowland | I was about to post link :P |
| 16:27.30 | Sixen | I just found it, I was looking to show someone the first video |
| 16:27.35 | Sixen | so I went to your userpage: P |
| 16:27.42 | rrowland | It just finished uploading like 5 minutes ago |
| 16:27.46 | rrowland | not processed fully yet |
| 16:27.50 | Sixen | hah! That's crazy |
| 16:28.18 | xttocs | 'spensive they are |
| 16:28.21 | Hati | well simple AI answer is split mutas |
| 16:28.41 | exxor | I'm duplicating the partical beam weapon and copying dozens and dozens of effect/validators, etc, etc... but all I want to do is adjust the damage/range/duration a bit. (for leveling towers) is there any quicker/less boring way to do this? |
| 16:28.58 | Dustin| | nope |
| 16:29.27 | Hati | oh man ... |
| 16:29.28 | Sixen | Dustin, :X |
| 16:29.32 | Hati | the whole internet is dying |
| 16:29.35 | rrowland | It's just a demonstration hati |
| 16:29.41 | Hati | i know :/ |
| 16:29.50 | rrowland | In an actual game the computer will have like 5 phoenixes to 8-10 mutas |
| 16:29.59 | rrowland | So it'll be some heavy rape with that micro |
| 16:30.10 | AsaPhelps | is that a bug that the phoenix can shoot backwards like that |
| 16:30.10 | xttocs | rrowland, I like the music in the micro video |
| 16:30.18 | rrowland | The first one? haha |
| 16:30.18 | xttocs | SC2 Protoss Phoenix Micro AI |
| 16:30.26 | rrowland | Yeah it was on my playlist |
| 16:30.30 | rrowland | Which I forgot was running |
| 16:30.35 | xttocs | Heh |
| 16:30.40 | xttocs | Which song is that? |
| 16:30.46 | rrowland | fur elise I think |
| 16:30.50 | Hati | AsaPhelps: no was implemented 2 patches back |
| 16:30.50 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG--MIlkC5g Now in HD! :P |
| 16:30.54 | xttocs | Aah |
| 16:30.55 | xttocs | you are right |
| 16:31.05 | xttocs | It just got to a recognizeable part |
| 16:31.19 | xttocs | I am rusty on my classical tunes |
| 16:31.39 | Kaldurenik | Yay |
| 16:31.44 | Kaldurenik | i got it to work in another way |
| 16:31.45 | Kaldurenik | wieee :D |
| 16:32.12 | Hati | someone able to check if there are new drivers for Nvidia 9 series ... the whole site is screwed for me atm |
| 16:32.27 | Hati | GeForce9* |
| 16:32.32 | Kaldurenik | So you dont have windows 7? |
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| 16:32.38 | AsaPhelps | do hallucinations of massive units kill forcefields? |
| 16:33.19 | crazyfingers | exxor, i would look into behaviors for the unit |
| 16:33.24 | crazyfingers | err tower |
| 16:33.25 | Kaldurenik | Anyway i cant seem to go to their drivers section |
| 16:33.27 | Kaldurenik | i get some error |
| 16:34.52 | exxor | crazyfingers: yes, I do need those, but also the charge effects and damage levels effects. and then a whole bunch of other stuff to reference all those effects/behaviors.. |
| 16:36.02 | depthsofchaos | has anyone implemented any encryption algorithm in galaxy?:o |
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| 16:51.19 | Kaldurenik | Ok do anyone know how to... errr attach a string to a timer? |
| 16:51.27 | allenmelon | us servers down? |
| 16:51.47 | Kaldurenik | The clock i have right now is made with a dialog but i want it made with timers if one can do that. |
| 16:52.06 | Sixen | I just logged into US servers |
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| 16:53.43 | Kaldurenik | no one :(? |
| 16:53.49 | Kaldurenik | And hi Sixen from the forums ^^ |
| 16:53.56 | Sixen | ./wave :) |
| 16:54.46 | Kaldurenik | Gaaah i cant get it to work T.T oh well i will give it a try lateron :P |
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| 16:55.51 | Sixen | I'd help but I'm runnin' around atm. just checked back. |
| 16:56.01 | Kaldurenik | Ah np =) |
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| 17:06.29 | Jcup | Jcup is uppp D: |
| 17:06.37 | Jcup | Whats up people |
| 17:06.46 | RickA | Yo |
| 17:06.47 | rrowland | hello |
| 17:06.47 | `3ICE | What's a Jcup? |
| 17:07.04 | RickA | Well a cup is that thing used for sports |
| 17:07.07 | `3ICE | overly large bra size |
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| 17:07.12 | RickA | So I'm guessing he's a J one of those |
| 17:07.22 | wOlfLinG | Ive just uploaded my Squad arena map |
| 17:07.38 | wOlfLinG | So if anyone is on the EU, go and play it :) |
| 17:07.43 | Jcup | lol yup ha |
| 17:08.21 | xttocs | I like `3ICE's answer. |
| 17:08.24 | Jcup | It kinda worked with the name Jacob soo I stuck wit dat nickname "P |
| 17:08.27 | `3ICE | ^^ |
| 17:08.31 | Jcup | :P |
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| 17:08.54 | Jcup | Lol |
| 17:08.59 | Jcup | NOOOO |
| 17:09.14 | Jcup | U would die... of lack of blood going to ur brain |
| 17:09.14 | Xcup | ahaha |
| 17:09.21 | Zcup | win |
| 17:09.23 | Jcup | Hahah |
| 17:09.25 | Iccup | Look at me, I'm unique. |
| 17:09.36 | Jcup | I dont wanna c u pee |
| 17:09.38 | `3ICE | back to normal |
| 17:12.03 | rrowland | lol @ forum troll named ldra |
| 17:12.22 | `3ICE | link plz |
| 17:12.40 | rrowland | He's everywhere apparently |
| 17:12.47 | rrowland | And pretends to be idra |
| 17:12.52 | rrowland | 'Your "behemoth AI" sucks the !@%#. Let's see his pheonix versus my muta micro.' |
| 17:13.13 | `3ICE | cant micro mutas vs your mighty phoenix |
| 17:13.20 | rrowland | Nope |
| 17:13.25 | rrowland | My phoenixes are supreme |
| 17:13.28 | rrowland | However corruptors |
| 17:13.31 | rrowland | Will rape their ass |
| 17:13.47 | AsaPhelps | what about a thor |
| 17:13.59 | `3ICE | cant lift massive |
| 17:14.04 | `3ICE | so thor > phoenix |
| 17:14.13 | AsaPhelps | medivacs can lift thors |
| 17:14.17 | rrowland | Well probably, but I'm gearing for PvZ specifically atm |
| 17:14.35 | AsaPhelps | speaking of which does that thor model in a medivac have a specific name? |
| 17:14.46 | AsaPhelps | or is it just an animation |
| 17:15.02 | `3ICE | its probably part of the medivac actor |
| 17:15.05 | `3ICE | go find it :) |
| 17:15.27 | AsaPhelps | sounds like a lot of work |
| 17:17.08 | rrowland | Okay |
| 17:17.21 | rrowland | Carnival music |
| 17:17.41 | rrowland | That plays when you watch something "funny" in fast motion |
| 17:17.46 | rrowland | Does it have a name |
| 17:17.53 | rrowland | circus music* whatever |
| 17:18.26 | exxor | what is the "attachment propperties+" field for in a unit? |
| 17:22.38 | Wihl | How do i change the health of destructable rocks on a melee map? |
| 17:24.19 | Beider | once again not having specs before starting programming bites me in the arse |
| 17:27.18 | AsaPhelps | you mean the benny hill theme rrow? |
| 17:27.28 | `3ICE | yeah that :) |
| 17:28.38 | Wihl | Also, am I just dumb or what.. I cant seem to add a bunch of textures to use? Instead I have to replace one that I already have |
| 17:28.50 | rrowland | I guess |
| 17:28.58 | rrowland | but I couldn't find it on youtube's audio swap |
| 17:29.46 | `3ICE | it isnt there |
| 17:29.55 | `3ICE | you gotta dl an mp3 and use that |
| 17:30.06 | Kaldurenik | Do anyone know how one can make a random unit selection... |
| 17:30.10 | Kaldurenik | But... |
| 17:30.17 | Kaldurenik | Some units have a higher chance to get picked |
| 17:31.01 | `3ICE | how many units are we alking about? |
| 17:31.07 | AsaPhelps | 1000 |
| 17:31.11 | `3ICE | for as low as 5-10 possible picks we don't need a serious system |
| 17:31.12 | rrowland | Wish I had video editing software that let me switch out audio and didn't make the video 10x larger or 10x shittier compression |
| 17:31.27 | `3ICE | rrowland windows movie maker can do that |
| 17:31.38 | rrowland | When I try to open WMM it just crashes so |
| 17:31.41 | AsaPhelps | I use vegas |
| 17:31.46 | `3ICE | hah i have the same problem |
| 17:31.56 | `3ICE | currently running wmm in a virtualpc with no updates |
| 17:32.02 | `3ICE | works fine that way :) |
| 17:32.19 | Kaldurenik | Eh |
| 17:32.23 | Kaldurenik | right now its 10 |
| 17:32.27 | Kaldurenik | But it might expand up to 20 |
| 17:32.34 | `3ICE | 20 is okay too |
| 17:32.48 | `3ICE | to get a %chance you use if random integer between 1 and 100 > 20 |
| 17:32.51 | `3ICE | that's a 20% chance |
| 17:33.08 | `3ICE | <* |
| 17:33.18 | Kaldurenik | if >20 then select that one |
| 17:33.27 | Kaldurenik | if <10 then that one |
| 17:33.28 | Kaldurenik | and so on |
| 17:33.30 | Kaldurenik | ^^ |
| 17:33.30 | `3ICE | nah that won't work well... |
| 17:33.45 | Kaldurenik | Hmm |
| 17:33.46 | `3ICE | we need a more efficient solution |
| 17:34.32 | Kaldurenik | hmm |
| 17:34.51 | rrowland | How does youtube not have this song |
| 17:35.03 | rrowland | It's got to be like the #1 wanted song for videos on youtube |
| 17:35.07 | `3ICE | rrowland youtube needs to license each song it has on audioswap |
| 17:35.15 | `3ICE | cant get hold of benny hill theme's authors |
| 17:35.35 | AsaPhelps | damn those british |
| 17:35.41 | exxor | how can you remove a unit that you can't select in the editor? |
| 17:35.51 | Kaldurenik | You cant select it? |
| 17:35.53 | AsaPhelps | I wonder if they played benny hill's theme at his funeral |
| 17:36.06 | AsaPhelps | and proceded to put the coffin in the ground in amusing fashion |
| 17:36.11 | exxor | I deleted the unit in the data editor |
| 17:36.30 | AsaPhelps | I had that problem before exxor I forgot what I did but its super annoying |
| 17:37.00 | `3ICE | delete every occurrence of the unit before deleting it from the data editor |
| 17:37.06 | `3ICE | war3 used to do it for you automatically |
| 17:37.14 | `3ICE | sc2 does not yet have that feature it seems |
| 17:37.53 | exxor | yes, unfortunatly I didn't... |
| 17:38.03 | `3ICE | got any backups? |
| 17:38.09 | exxor | nope... :| |
| 17:38.13 | `3ICE | it is encouraged to turn on autosave as this is a beta |
| 17:38.16 | `3ICE | anything can happen |
| 17:38.17 | Kaldurenik | Hmm |
| 17:38.24 | Kaldurenik | Could you try to make a new unit with that ones ID |
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| 17:38.25 | Kaldurenik | ? |
| 17:38.32 | `3ICE | btw does anyone have an idea for Kaldurenik's problem? |
| 17:39.28 | allenmelon | us servers down? |
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| 17:39.53 | Kaldurenik | Well to expand on it |
| 17:39.58 | exxor | ok, turned on autosave ;) and will try the ID suggestion :) |
| 17:40.18 | Kaldurenik | First it will pick a player from players playing = true |
| 17:40.23 | Kaldurenik | Then randomly select a person |
| 17:40.31 | Kaldurenik | then give a random unit to that random player |
| 17:40.32 | Kaldurenik | ^^ |
| 17:40.36 | `3ICE | Kaldurenik it helps to write one long line about your problem and repeat it every 30 minutes |
| 17:41.00 | allenmelon | nvm |
| 17:41.08 | allenmelon | my internet must be jumpy |
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| 17:44.06 | AsaPhelps | is there a way to change unit height in the data editor? |
| 17:44.20 | slightlyrandom | Height off of ground or model height ? |
| 17:44.22 | slightlyrandom | Either way, yes |
| 17:44.27 | AsaPhelps | the former |
| 17:44.33 | `3ICE | set unit property |
| 17:44.34 | slightlyrandom | That is on the Unit tab |
| 17:44.40 | `3ICE | oh nvm |
| 17:44.43 | AsaPhelps | well I mean |
| 17:44.45 | AsaPhelps | dynamically |
| 17:44.47 | slightlyrandom | I believe it is just called Height |
| 17:44.51 | slightlyrandom | hmm |
| 17:44.53 | slightlyrandom | better question |
| 17:44.59 | `3ICE | dynamically? triggers are dynamic |
| 17:45.10 | AsaPhelps | like I want to spawn a unit then have that unit drop down |
| 17:45.21 | AsaPhelps | I know I could use triggers |
| 17:45.25 | AsaPhelps | But I don't want to :( |
| 17:45.37 | `3ICE | then use events on the acotr |
| 17:45.45 | `3ICE | on create start a timer |
| 17:45.48 | AsaPhelps | events sound interesting |
| 17:46.00 | `3ICE | when that timer expires, lower the untis height by a little |
| 17:46.00 | slightlyrandom | Events... |
| 17:46.11 | `3ICE | fucking annyoing and painstaking process takes hours |
| 17:46.15 | `3ICE | use triggers |
| 17:46.49 | exxor | when trying to rename a unit to the unit that I deleted I get the message that an object with that ID already exists? |
| 17:47.04 | slightlyrandom | You probably left and actor or something behind |
| 17:47.09 | slightlyrandom | an actor* |
| 17:47.36 | `3ICE | he has a undeletable unit on his map |
| 17:48.48 | Kaldurenik | Ah ok i will do that i guess :D |
| 17:49.54 | Kaldurenik | Could anyone please give me a hint / suggestion / idea on how to make a system that randomly pick a player and then randomly give them 1 unit of 10 to 20 diffrent units. Thanks :D |
| 17:50.41 | slightlyrandom | Create two integers at random, then do the action based on what values they have ? |
| 17:51.11 | Kaldurenik | Hmm |
| 17:51.51 | `3ICE | get a random integer between 1 and 100, if 1-3 then unit1 if 4 then unit2 if 5-15 then unit4 if 16-30 then unit5 if 31-50 then units6 etc |
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| 17:51.59 | Kaldurenik | ok =) |
| 17:52.05 | Kaldurenik | Thanks everyone =) |
| 17:52.25 | slightlyrandom | Why the runaround? |
| 17:52.26 | `3ICE | you might need to use "get a random integer between 1 and 10000" to finetune the chances |
| 17:52.30 | slightlyrandom | Array with unit names |
| 17:52.38 | `3ICE | he needs different chances :) |
| 17:52.39 | `3ICE | per unit |
| 17:52.40 | slightlyrandom | players already have numbers |
| 17:52.40 | exxor | ok, I have the unit, but I deleted the actor.... is there any way to make a new actor for it so it shows up again? |
| 17:52.41 | slightlyrandom | oh |
| 17:52.42 | slightlyrandom | RIght |
| 17:52.53 | Kaldurenik | Yes one unit is very strong |
| 17:52.54 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 17:52.55 | Kaldurenik | Sooooo |
| 17:52.58 | `3ICE | exxor your map is corrupted |
| 17:52.58 | Kaldurenik | It have a very low chance =) |
| 17:53.10 | `3ICE | make a new one |
| 17:53.40 | slightlyrandom | exxor: you can create a new actor based on another unit, then go hunting for all the references and change em to fit |
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| 17:54.08 | exxor | ok, lemmie try |
| 17:54.15 | slightlyrandom | There are quite a few, though |
| 17:54.19 | slightlyrandom | So it might be a fair bit of work |
| 17:54.56 | Beider | anyone got any ideas for making parts of a dialog transparent? |
| 17:55.04 | Beider | I want to remove the left border of my dialog |
| 17:55.20 | `3ICE | can you move it off screen? |
| 17:55.24 | exxor | alpha belnding? |
| 17:55.39 | `3ICE | i dont think dialogs can be controlled that well... |
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| 17:55.58 | `3ICE | alpha blend the whole disalog maybe, but jsut one side? nah :( |
| 17:56.15 | Beider | hmm |
| 17:56.28 | Beider | guess I have to hide the entire thing then set up the borders manually with images |
| 17:56.51 | `3ICE | guess we'll need to make a dialog system |
| 17:56.57 | exxor | I think when you put an dialog item on a dialog there is a blending mode... so maybe if your picture you're putting on the dialog is transparent.. |
| 17:57.00 | `3ICE | that gives us more control over the appearance |
| 17:57.33 | Beider | I would settle for a preview window |
| 17:57.34 | Beider | in the editor |
| 17:58.08 | exxor | btw, +Beider, you've implemented a prismatic beam, did you run into this problem? http://yfrog.com/b8screenshotifj |
| 17:58.46 | Beider | yes |
| 17:58.50 | Beider | but I never bothered fixing it |
| 17:58.55 | Beider | but I know aproximately what it is |
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| 17:59.05 | Beider | You should look in +Effect on your actors |
| 17:59.30 | Beider | On the voidray the beams you see there would be attached to the front of it |
| 17:59.35 | AsaPhelps | where is effect - instant, isn't that a type of effect? |
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| 18:00.16 | AsaPhelps | or am I crazy |
| 18:00.23 | Lazbro | you're crazy. |
| 18:00.42 | AsaPhelps | nm thats under abilities |
| 18:00.48 | AsaPhelps | so I'm only a little crazy |
| 18:01.53 | exxor | +Beider: the unit actor? |
| 18:02.54 | AsaPhelps | I got that problem a lot exxor |
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| 18:03.55 | Lyrrad | morning |
| 18:04.05 | AsaPhelps | Good afternoon |
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| 18:06.03 | rrowland | Hello lyrrad |
| 18:06.40 | rrowland | check it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG--MIlkC5g |
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| 18:07.46 | xttocs | scwheeet |
| 18:07.52 | xttocs | I can get free samples of these chips I want |
| 18:09.11 | Kaldurenik | This might be a dumb question |
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| 18:09.18 | WhiskeeGX | looks like my experiment is working |
| 18:09.24 | WhiskeeGX | The Message top #1 pop EU |
| 18:09.29 | Kaldurenik | But i cant find any way to make it randomly select a integer |
| 18:09.31 | WhiskeeGX | hope they'll notice how this system sucks |
| 18:10.13 | Kaldurenik | what? |
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| 18:10.50 | WhiskeeGX | there's a function to pick random integers in a range |
| 18:11.05 | Kaldurenik | Hmm i cant find it i might be blind however :D |
| 18:11.09 | WhiskeeGX | sec |
| 18:11.39 | WhiskeeGX | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.47 | rrowland | lol @ your map whiskee |
| 18:12.26 | WhiskeeGX | 1000 games/hour. This is going to be a mess after release, this system needs to go |
| 18:12.35 | Kaldurenik | what system? |
| 18:12.42 | WhiskeeGX | the popularity map sorting |
| 18:12.50 | Kaldurenik | Ah |
| 18:12.56 | rrowland | It's a bit TLDR |
| 18:12.57 | Kaldurenik | Yeah... |
| 18:12.57 | rrowland | lol |
| 18:13.03 | rrowland | I was interested |
| 18:13.08 | rrowland | And I still zoned out halfway through |
| 18:13.22 | WhiskeeGX | the point is to get the +1 count :P |
| 18:13.25 | WhiskeeGX | and keep it bumped |
| 18:13.34 | Lyrrad | what is whisk's map? |
| 18:13.44 | Kaldurenik | Well |
| 18:13.49 | AsaPhelps | how do you do terrain deformation? |
| 18:13.57 | Kaldurenik | I would like them to remake the entire custom game things |
| 18:14.13 | `3ICE | AsaPhelps actors |
| 18:15.23 | Kaldurenik | Basicly: Split them into two... Make one map database where we can vote / comment /See the nr of times a map have been played / Find map information and older versions of the same map / and so on and so on.... They should also be bound to the profile of the map dev to allow them to remove bad comments if they so want. |
| 18:15.36 | Kaldurenik | Then that they just copy paste the old custom game hosting / joining |
| 18:15.40 | Kaldurenik | from the old b.net |
| 18:15.55 | Kaldurenik | Sadly they willl probably never do it T.T |
| 18:16.06 | WhiskeeGX | well the popularity system isn't that bad actually, but just if it shows the number of PLAYERS playing or waiting in lobby |
| 18:16.30 | WhiskeeGX | not the number of rooms created, that's just stupid |
| 18:16.54 | Kaldurenik | Well like i said |
| 18:16.57 | Kaldurenik | remake everything |
| 18:17.02 | Kaldurenik | its broken down to the core :D |
| 18:17.59 | AsaPhelps | so which actor makes the terrain go down ice? flatten just levels it? |
| 18:18.15 | `3ICE | idk i watched a tut about it a month ago |
| 18:18.26 | `3ICE | all i remember is: terrain deformation = actors |
| 18:18.27 | Kaldurenik | down ice? |
| 18:18.38 | AsaPhelps | or do you have to make a new one |
| 18:18.41 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 18:18.48 | `3ICE | ofc you make a new one lol |
| 18:18.49 | Vophsix | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/895-data-terrain-actors-how-to-do-live-otf-terrain-deformation/ |
| 18:19.06 | Kaldurenik | Ok this one is going to be hard for you all :D |
| 18:19.09 | `3ICE | Vophsix is awesome. |
| 18:19.23 | Kaldurenik | Sooo i was able to find the random integer thingy with help from you all |
| 18:19.25 | Kaldurenik | Noooooowwww |
| 18:19.36 | Lyrrad | 42 |
| 18:19.41 | `3ICE | 42 |
| 18:19.52 | Beider | I find it is kind of sad to program a UI when you know that you eventually probably have to change most of the UI anyway, or at least make it look better |
| 18:19.54 | Kaldurenik | How do i make it not include people that are not = true :D |
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| 18:20.18 | `3ICE | Kaldurenik you gotta ask questions that make sense... |
| 18:20.32 | Kaldurenik | Well right now i have a check to see if a player is playing or not :) |
| 18:20.45 | WhiskeeGX | so you want to pick a random active player basically? |
| 18:20.49 | Kaldurenik | yes |
| 18:20.49 | Ignorance | raaaa |
| 18:21.00 | Ignorance | random active player is easy |
| 18:21.11 | Ignorance | Player from Player group |
| 18:21.21 | Ignorance | Random Integer from 1 to Number of Players in Active Players |
| 18:21.22 | Ignorance | RAAAAA |
| 18:21.27 | Kaldurenik | wieee |
| 18:21.34 | Kaldurenik | =) |
| 18:21.38 | WhiskeeGX | nope, that won't work |
| 18:21.44 | Ignorance | Well, it does in my map. |
| 18:21.45 | Kaldurenik | nooo :( |
| 18:21.48 | Ignorance | So, you can screw off. |
| 18:22.03 | WhiskeeGX | cause if you have 6 active players, but in 2-4-5-6-7-8 slots, 7 and 8 won't be included. |
| 18:22.17 | Ignorance | You're an idiot. |
| 18:22.22 | Ignorance | Okay. |
| 18:22.26 | WhiskeeGX | woosh kid. |
| 18:22.34 | Ignorance | Player from player group, right? |
| 18:22.50 | Ignorance | Takes an integer from 1 to number of players from player group and returns the player at that spot, right? |
| 18:23.12 | Ignorance | Random integer from 1 to number of players in Active Players would then return a random slot in that player group. |
| 18:23.19 | Ignorance | You then insert the slot into player from player group |
| 18:23.21 | Ignorance | and get the player |
| 18:23.23 | Ignorance | BASK IN MY GLORY |
| 18:23.36 | Ignorance | I also have methods for finding a player's index in a player group. |
| 18:23.49 | WhiskeeGX | just while (X is in active players = false) { generate random X from 1 to max } and you have a random X which is one of the active players. |
| 18:24.05 | Ignorance | wat |
| 18:24.13 | `3ICE | you guys make absolutely no sense :) |
| 18:24.24 | Ignorance | okay, that's not what I'm saying at all |
| 18:24.27 | WhiskeeGX | he wants to pick a random player from the list of active players |
| 18:24.35 | Ignorance | That's so much |
| 18:24.36 | Ignorance | less |
| 18:24.39 | Ignorance | efficient |
| 18:24.51 | Ignorance | also, it'll give |
| 18:24.54 | Ignorance | a random x |
| 18:24.58 | Ignorance | which is not in active players |
| 18:25.00 | Ignorance | yeah |
| 18:25.03 | Ignorance | so, just do this |
| 18:25.14 | rrowland | rabble rabble rabble |
| 18:25.15 | Ignorance | damnit, I didn't want to load up my map >:[ |
| 18:25.25 | `3ICE | a workaround that comes to my mind is this recursive solution: get a random player --> if that player is inactive, start over --> if that player is active, we are done |
| 18:25.26 | Ignorance | RAAABBBBLE |
| 18:25.38 | Ignorance | You don't need a workaround. |
| 18:25.46 | Ignorance | I have a function which distributes players randomly |
| 18:25.48 | Ignorance | into two teams |
| 18:25.50 | Ignorance | :P |
| 18:25.53 | Ignorance | and it works |
| 18:25.54 | depthsofchaos | theoreticaly your method could take forever :p |
| 18:25.58 | Ignorance | I'm 100% sure it works. I've seen it working. |
| 18:26.01 | `3ICE | that'd be an overkill for this quesrtion |
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| 18:26.11 | rrowland | How about |
| 18:26.14 | rrowland | When you load your map |
| 18:26.31 | rrowland | Make an array of 16 and assign active players to it |
| 18:26.36 | rrowland | 1 by 1 |
| 18:26.43 | rrowland | Then do a random 1-number of players |
| 18:26.48 | rrowland | And pick the player in the index |
| 18:26.53 | rrowland | So if there are 6 players |
| 18:26.56 | rrowland | 2, 4, 6 and 8 |
| 18:26.59 | rrowland | The array would be |
| 18:27.04 | Ignorance | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.04 | Ignorance | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.04 | Ignorance | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.04 | Ignorance | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.08 | rrowland | 2,4,6,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,etc |
| 18:27.08 | depthsofchaos | what ignorance said works fine |
| 18:27.12 | depthsofchaos | and the most efficient |
| 18:27.31 | Demonette | Is it able somehow possible to get numbers with mathematics in the trigger editor that aren't rounded? |
| 18:27.38 | Demonette | like 1.43 |
| 18:27.42 | Demonette | or 0.1 |
| 18:27.46 | Helral | those are real values |
| 18:27.48 | `3ICE | geet random real |
| 18:28.13 | rrowland | Or yeah add them to a new group |
| 18:28.27 | Ignorance | That's my split teams function |
| 18:28.29 | Ignorance | the last three |
| 18:28.32 | Ignorance | are in a while loop |
| 18:28.41 | Ignorance | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.47 | Ignorance | I then have a swap back function |
| 18:28.50 | Ignorance | for |
| 18:29.15 | Ignorance | making the larger team random on oddly numbered groups of players |
| 18:29.25 | wOlfLinG | Just wondering, can you put triggers in a melee map? |
| 18:29.45 | `3ICE | no |
| 18:29.48 | `3ICE | makes them custom |
| 18:29.58 | `3ICE | melee maps = terrain editor ONLY |
| 18:30.05 | wOlfLinG | ok |
| 18:30.05 | `3ICE | no data, no triggers |
| 18:30.13 | `3ICE | you might be able to edit lights tho :) |
| 18:30.19 | `3ICE | so some data is accepted |
| 18:30.23 | `3ICE | i mean its common sense |
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| 18:30.38 | Kaldurenik | Hmmm |
| 18:30.40 | wOlfLinG | Cause i was thinking of doing something where if you keep your units in a region you gain something |
| 18:30.50 | `3ICE | thats a custom map |
| 18:30.51 | Ignorance | Kaldurenik, my function works. I use it in a map. :P |
| 18:30.54 | `3ICE | we all make custom maps |
| 18:30.54 | Lyrrad | that is definately custom territory |
| 18:31.03 | `3ICE | only you make melee maps here |
| 18:31.05 | Ignorance | I have tested it and it has never had an error. Always works. Always perfectly. |
| 18:31.07 | Kaldurenik | Hmm |
| 18:31.07 | `3ICE | no1 ever makes melee maps btw |
| 18:31.11 | `3ICE | customs are way more fun |
| 18:31.17 | `3ICE | leave melee mapping to blizz |
| 18:31.24 | wOlfLinG | Ya, but i play a lot of custom melee maps with my friends |
| 18:31.31 | Ignorance | just use Player = (Player (Random integer between 1 and (Number of players in (Active Players))) from (Active Players)) |
| 18:31.38 | wOlfLinG | And there is not a lot of melee maps atm |
| 18:33.18 | Demonette | and how can i send this value to a integer`? |
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| 18:33.46 | rrowland | I made a couple melee maps |
| 18:33.51 | rrowland | I just haven't released them |
| 18:33.59 | rrowland | I'm going to be using one for my behemoth ai |
| 18:34.19 | wOlfLinG | you made an AI? |
| 18:34.34 | `3ICE | Demonette you don't seem too bright :/ |
| 18:35.44 | rrowland | Making an AI yeah |
| 18:35.52 | rrowland | But not right now |
| 18:35.57 | rrowland | Cause right now is sleepy time |
| 18:35.58 | wOlfLinG | nice. I may put in some AI for my map |
| 18:36.27 | Demonette | Oh my god... yes i found it -.- ^^ |
| 18:36.29 | wOlfLinG | btw, editing terrain sets keeps it as melee right? |
| 18:36.38 | allenmelon | anyone wanna play fastest map 4v4 with me? |
| 18:36.46 | wOlfLinG | what server? |
| 18:36.58 | allenmelon | us |
| 18:37.07 | wOlfLinG | sorry, im eu |
| 18:38.47 | Dustin | lol fastest map |
| 18:38.56 | beijingguy | i need some help, im trying to make a TD, and working on a high templar tower, but cant rly get him to do psi storm since he is a tower so he cant turn around.. any ideas ? |
| 18:39.29 | `3ICE | i dont think turning is an issue here |
| 18:39.58 | `3ICE | templars can storm behind them |
| 18:40.12 | beijingguy | they dont need to turn to use the ability ? |
| 18:40.18 | `3ICE | of course not |
| 18:40.29 | AsaPhelps | ~seen RickA |
| 18:40.34 | purl | ricka <~Rick@d53-64-70-146.nap.wideopenwest.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1h 33m 22s ago, saying: 'So I'm guessing he's a J one of those'. |
| 18:40.49 | `3ICE | they turn after storming and that's only a visual effect |
| 18:41.30 | beijingguy | alright ill try again then ;) thx |
| 18:42.14 | `3ICE | beijingguy is a weird guy :) he doesn't ask the real question: how to make a tower shoot/cast storm... |
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| 18:54.24 | slightlyrandom | So |
| 18:54.27 | slightlyrandom | Unit selection |
| 18:54.46 | slightlyrandom | What makes it prioritize units over buildings, and how do you modify that behavior? |
| 18:58.29 | Lyrrad | You want to to select buildings instead when you drag over both units and buildings? |
| 18:58.47 | slightlyrandom | Well, I really want it to treat my towers based off of units as buildings |
| 18:58.58 | slightlyrandom | But if I know where it sets this up, I can modify it |
| 18:59.08 | Lyrrad | oh, go into their attributes and make sure structure is checked |
| 18:59.31 | slightlyrandom | That isnt enough |
| 19:00.12 | slightlyrandom | If that was it, it would be working now |
| 19:00.15 | slightlyrandom | It aint :S |
| 19:00.16 | Lyrrad | It worked for heysparky going the other way |
| 19:00.21 | slightlyrandom | really? |
| 19:00.23 | slightlyrandom | Hm |
| 19:00.31 | Lyrrad | not sure what other settings she had changed |
| 19:00.43 | Lyrrad | she had a unit based of a structure |
| 19:01.03 | Lyrrad | and wanted it to be selected with units, and I believe unchecking structure worked |
| 19:01.18 | slightlyrandom | Well, I am gonna chat her up once she returns |
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| 19:03.11 | Lyrrad | But you did open up the attribute field and check structure? |
| 19:03.40 | slightlyrandom | Assuming we're talking about the thing in the Unit tab, with Armored, Mechanical and all that other jazz, yeah |
| 19:04.40 | Lyrrad | yeah, thats what I was talking about |
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| 19:08.37 | Verr82 | is it bad to update a leaderboard too fast? |
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| 19:09.25 | slightlyrandom | Might incur some lag, but how fast is fast? |
| 19:09.44 | Verr82 | 0.5 seconds or something |
| 19:09.50 | `3ICE | liquid td in war3 had leaderboard updates every 0.1 sec |
| 19:09.53 | `3ICE | no lag |
| 19:10.01 | `3ICE | should be the same for sc2 |
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| 19:10.10 | `3ICE | even with the more advanced leaderboard stuff |
| 19:11.01 | Verr82 | ok, I just wondered because I played a custom map which seemed to update its leaderboard every 30 seconds or something. |
| 19:11.22 | `3ICE | wow, that's slow -.- |
| 19:11.22 | Gohla | you can update it every time an event occurs :p |
| 19:11.46 | `3ICE | unless it is a TD with hundreds of units dying every second! :) |
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| 19:12.09 | `3ICE | but yeah tie the updates to a "unit dies" event |
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| 19:15.37 | slightlyrandom | How many options is it ok to give people at the start of a TD ? |
| 19:15.56 | slightlyrandom | And do you give em to a leader of sorts, or let em vote |
| 19:16.44 | Lyrrad | up to you |
| 19:16.56 | Demo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.06 | Lyrrad | Personally I think there should be at least 25 options, and each one of them asks you to confirm your choice 5 times |
| 19:17.16 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 19:17.31 | `3ICE | Demo_ you broke it :) |
| 19:17.42 | Demo_ | psh |
| 19:17.49 | slightlyrandom | Was thinking 3*3*2 game modes |
| 19:17.50 | Demo_ | it worked and now it doesn't and I didn't change it! |
| 19:17.59 | slightlyrandom | plus difficulties, of course |
| 19:18.06 | `3ICE | just make an array with all the unit types you want selected |
| 19:18.13 | `3ICE | as a temp fix |
| 19:18.16 | Lyrrad | Do you want monsters? Yes...Are you sure? yes...Really Really sure? yes...So no monsters then? yes....ok, canceling! Oh crap damnit, quit |
| 19:18.21 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 19:18.25 | `3ICE | hahaha |
| 19:18.29 | Demo_ | so it's a known bug? |
| 19:18.39 | slightlyrandom | Naw, but is it standard to give the dialog to the "leader" only, or to everyone ? |
| 19:18.41 | Helral | @slightlyrandom: that's.... 90 game modes? ;p incl. difficulties ;p |
| 19:18.56 | slightlyrandom | Well, a few of them might be disabled |
| 19:19.00 | slightlyrandom | 1 at least |
| 19:19.13 | `3ICE | not a known bug |
| 19:19.46 | Demo_ | but it's stilla bug yes? |
| 19:20.07 | Helral | no it's a feature *grins* |
| 19:20.08 | `3ICE | probably |
| 19:20.20 | `3ICE | i'm too lazy to confirm |
| 19:21.07 | Vophsix | is anyone clued in as to how to add the area of effect cursor to a "effect - target" ability? |
| 19:21.31 | `3ICE | boy we totally need that for custom spells |
| 19:21.37 | slightlyrandom | You need the AOE Cursor Splat |
| 19:21.45 | `3ICE | go to data editor --> play around with cursors --> let us know what you find |
| 19:21.47 | slightlyrandom | I believe its a model thing :P |
| 19:22.08 | slightlyrandom | I tried to disable it on an ability, only managed to make it smaller ^^ |
| 19:22.11 | `3ICE | cursors should be modelless textures imo |
| 19:22.13 | Vophsix | okay guess it's a digging job then ^^ |
| 19:22.15 | `3ICE | nvr tried so not sure |
| 19:22.15 | slightlyrandom | Havent really looked at it though |
| 19:22.42 | Vophsix | thanks though, will let you know if i get it working |
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| 19:26.06 | ekcolnovkol | anyone know how to make non-table view load faster :< |
| 19:26.28 | `3ICE | who the hell uses anything other than table view? |
| 19:26.41 | `3ICE | even that view is slow as <beep>... |
| 19:26.52 | `3ICE | i'd rather edit the xml |
| 19:27.04 | ekcolnovkol | non-table view is for noobs |
| 19:27.08 | ekcolnovkol | i'm quite nubby :U |
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| 19:27.10 | nicoli_s | `3ICE: directly editing xml will be in MWE\ |
| 19:27.18 | `3ICE | awesome, can't wait :) |
| 19:27.25 | Lyrrad | I hate tab view in the data editor |
| 19:27.30 | lojin | can someone help me with a map editor question? |
| 19:27.35 | ekcolnovkol | why? o_O |
| 19:27.40 | `3ICE | lojin don't ask to ask, jsut ask! |
| 19:27.57 | `3ICE | tabs = one more click you have to make every time you want to change something |
| 19:28.01 | `3ICE | pain in the butt |
| 19:28.02 | lojin | i want to issue order MOVE to a marine |
| 19:28.12 | lojin | but i dont know how lol |
| 19:28.20 | lojin | theres just hold position |
| 19:28.31 | `3ICE | lojin http://img.3ice.hu/IssueOrderTargeting.png |
| 19:28.31 | Lyrrad | not to mention you haver to search the tabs to find what you want |
| 19:28.40 | lojin | ok thanks |
| 19:28.43 | `3ICE | click the parenthesis indicated by red and green arrows or something |
| 19:28.56 | `3ICE | yay i got the colors right! :) |
| 19:29.04 | slightlyrandom | Amazing! |
| 19:29.18 | slightlyrandom | I'd thought you'd have the ascii art ready |
| 19:29.20 | `3ICE | the editor is a nightmare for new users |
| 19:29.30 | Lyrrad | table view, all I need to know is the alphabet |
| 19:29.48 | `3ICE | i just use the filter field on top |
| 19:29.49 | slightlyrandom | The Trigger editor is pretty straightforward in my oppinion, its the data stuff that's non-intiutive |
| 19:29.57 | Vophsix | *facepalm* never seen the "Show Advanced Values" button |
| 19:29.58 | `3ICE | type in what i want --> get what i want :) |
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| 19:31.57 | Lyrrad | that works too |
| 19:32.07 | Lyrrad | but thats extra keystrokes |
| 19:32.13 | `3ICE | yeah :/ |
| 19:32.27 | slightlyrandom | Stroke? You dont have a brainwave interface ? |
| 19:32.43 | `3ICE | not compatible with my brain |
| 19:32.53 | slightlyrandom | Likely because YOU DONT HAVE ONE |
| 19:32.56 | slightlyrandom | Hah! |
| 19:33.14 | Lyrrad | you walked into that one |
| 19:33.21 | slightlyrandom | Sorry, I had to |
| 19:33.23 | `3ICE | nah, the error message i get is: "Human subject too advanced for interfacing" |
| 19:33.46 | ekcolnovkol | what do you use to edit the text, i can't even pull my sc2map file apart |
| 19:33.54 | slightlyrandom | You shouldn't be so cheap, then, I told you the dog-edition isn't up to snuff |
| 19:33.59 | ekcolnovkol | so far the table view's been working for me but it'd be nice to see the actual data too |
| 19:34.00 | `3ICE | and a not-so-helpful help line says: "Wait 'till 2050, we'll have something for you, mr Einstein." |
| 19:34.41 | ekcolnovkol | nobody uses Dan in SSF4 :(( |
| 19:34.55 | Lyrrad | its right there beside the field name |
| 19:34.59 | `3ICE | idk what Dan or SSF4 is :) |
| 19:35.09 | Lyrrad | well Dan is a name |
| 19:35.10 | ekcolnovkol | we need moar "Ryu-wannabe" Dans |
| 19:35.21 | Lyrrad | no idea about ssf4 |
| 19:35.32 | ekcolnovkol | nobody here plays ssf4? |
| 19:35.36 | ekcolnovkol | . |
| 19:35.41 | ekcolnovkol | rages |
| 19:36.14 | Lyrrad | I don't even know what it stands for |
| 19:36.24 | Beider | One whole day of work and all I got to show for it is a single UI screen ;( |
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| 19:37.01 | slightlyrandom | But what an UI screen! |
| 19:37.08 | Beider | indeed, it is pretty neat |
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| 19:37.58 | Lyrrad | new game? UICraft |
| 19:38.22 | lojin | umm ok i want to create a marine at a region and then order him to move to another region |
| 19:38.30 | `3ICE | Welcome to UI-Hell! Find the correct button to be able to leave. |
| 19:38.54 | Kaldurenik | My head hurts :( |
| 19:38.57 | Lyrrad | Thats a statement, not a question |
| 19:38.59 | lojin | i spawned him but i'm still confused as to how i make him move to the other region |
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| 19:39.09 | Beider | If you push the wrong button a kitten gets nuked |
| 19:39.18 | slightlyrandom | IssueOrder to LastCreatedUnit MoveTo Place |
| 19:39.18 | Lyrrad | you need to use Unit - Issue Order |
| 19:39.37 | lojin | i know |
| 19:39.38 | Lyrrad | Order Targeting a point |
| 19:39.43 | lojin | ah |
| 19:39.47 | slightlyrandom | If you can't find the movement order, ask `3ICE |
| 19:39.58 | `3ICE | lojin http://img.3ice.hu/IssueOrderTargeting.png |
| 19:40.07 | `3ICE | reusing lines i already typed out = win |
| 19:40.07 | lojin | i think i got it |
| 19:40.32 | slightlyrandom | Why the hell doesnt it remove GroundShadow when it destroys the actor ? |
| 19:40.33 | ekcolnovkol | anyone know how to write a custom value array |
| 19:40.45 | slightlyrandom | be more specific ekcolnovkol |
| 19:40.45 | `3ICE | those linger around for a while |
| 19:40.57 | ekcolnovkol | for CEffect_ValidatorArray |
| 19:41.48 | slightlyrandom | Dont you just got into Validators and create a new one? |
| 19:42.06 | ekcolnovkol | you are absolutely right |
| 19:42.07 | slightlyrandom | Oh, a custom set of properties? |
| 19:42.09 | ekcolnovkol | i am retarded |
| 19:42.12 | slightlyrandom | Heh |
| 19:42.17 | ekcolnovkol | rages at himself |
| 19:42.22 | slightlyrandom | No man! |
| 19:42.25 | Sublimity | How does it *normally* remove a ground shadow? By the scope killing itself? Doesn't look like it ever destroys itself… |
| 19:42.28 | slightlyrandom | Rage Against the Machine, man! |
| 19:42.41 | slightlyrandom | I'd think it did that when the actor got removed |
| 19:42.46 | slightlyrandom | Clearly that is too simple a notion |
| 19:43.07 | slightlyrandom | The GroundShadow actor doesnt have any events in itself |
| 19:43.27 | slightlyrandom | Might be in the death animation actor thingamabob ? |
| 19:43.29 | exxor | hmm, so apparently there is an actor called void ray attack beam. This actor is however not linked with the weapon in any obvious way. I know there has to be a link. Does any know? |
| 19:43.52 | Sublimity | GroundShadow removes itself in response to a morph, but not in response to anything else |
| 19:44.00 | slightlyrandom | Void Ray Attack is linked to tit exxor |
| 19:44.04 | ekcolnovkol | done and done |
| 19:44.04 | ekcolnovkol | woot |
| 19:44.17 | ekcolnovkol | Rancor is ready to roll :D |
| 19:44.29 | ekcolnovkol | and now, 3 more heroes until release |
| 19:44.40 | slightlyrandom | And Void Ray Attack seems to have the events that calls the beam into being when the Void Ray attacks |
| 19:44.43 | ekcolnovkol | ahem* "Leaders" |
| 19:44.47 | ekcolnovkol | what are heroes :u |
| 19:45.11 | slightlyrandom | Probably a registered trademark |
| 19:45.20 | ekcolnovkol | oh yeah |
| 19:45.25 | Sublimity | Ah, GroundShadow removes itself in response to UnitDeath and ActorOrphan |
| 19:45.26 | slightlyrandom | To Fox or Warner Brothers or whoever made that TV show |
| 19:45.27 | ekcolnovkol | i never watched it |
| 19:45.32 | ekcolnovkol | i just know |
| 19:45.34 | ekcolnovkol | the asian can time travel |
| 19:45.36 | ekcolnovkol | :D |
| 19:45.40 | slightlyrandom | Gotta add something to that GroundShadow then |
| 19:45.44 | slightlyrandom | Naw, he can stop time |
| 19:45.49 | ekcolnovkol | oh? |
| 19:45.51 | slightlyrandom | Alter the flow of it |
| 19:46.04 | ekcolnovkol | he is |
| 19:46.14 | Sublimity | How are you creating the actor, slightlyrandom? |
| 19:46.16 | slightlyrandom | It isnt explained very well |
| 19:46.16 | ekcolnovkol | the Only asian in america who has an important role in a tv-series |
| 19:46.18 | lojin | is scan-move the same at attack-move? |
| 19:46.21 | ekcolnovkol | THE ONLY |
| 19:46.22 | exxor | slightlyrandom: ah, in what propperty is it linked? |
| 19:46.23 | lojin | same as* |
| 19:46.32 | slightlyrandom | I ain't, I am trying to upgrade a tower into something else and the shadow stays put |
| 19:46.42 | slightlyrandom | The Actor Void Ray Attack |
| 19:46.46 | Sublimity | That should be taken care of, if it's an AbilMorph |
| 19:46.55 | slightlyrandom | Well, it aint :P |
| 19:47.16 | Sublimity | Aha |
| 19:47.42 | Sublimity | What's your old unit? |
| 19:47.53 | Sublimity | If it doesn't pass the IsFlying validator, the shadow doesn't get removed |
| 19:48.02 | slightlyrandom | Bunker / Photon Cannon |
| 19:48.04 | slightlyrandom | Happens to both |
| 19:48.23 | slightlyrandom | exxor: finding it ? |
| 19:48.57 | Sublimity | Yeah, you will have to change GroundShadow >.< |
| 19:49.13 | Twiner | hmmm |
| 19:49.14 | exxor | slightlyrandom: maybe the events? if the event from the weapon triggers, some animations will be played |
| 19:49.16 | Twiner | when was patch 14? |
| 19:49.26 | exxor | lemmie try for a bit :) |
| 19:49.27 | Sublimity | Twiner: June 1 |
| 19:49.41 | Twiner | I need to checkout the changelog |
| 19:49.47 | Twiner | has there been any change to the galay editor? |
| 19:50.22 | slightlyrandom | The Actor "Void Ray Attack" is linked to the "Void Ray Attack Beam", and has events that call the beam into being when the Void Ray attacks |
| 19:50.45 | Twiner | trigger events? |
| 19:52.00 | exxor | slightlyrandom: yup, I think I've found it :) going to try and copy it right now |
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| 19:53.51 | lojin | is there a way to snap textures to grid? |
| 19:54.05 | WhiteBomber | Terrain textures? |
| 19:54.10 | lojin | yeah sorry |
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| 19:55.32 | `3ICE | nope, not yet |
| 19:55.39 | `3ICE | and it gets crashy :D |
| 19:55.53 | `3ICE | we need snap to grid for textures! |
| 19:56.45 | slightlyrandom | Hah |
| 19:56.53 | slightlyrandom | This Model shit is entirely hit and miss |
| 19:57.43 | slightlyrandom | Or more like swing and miss |
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| 20:02.42 | exxor | slightlyrandom: hmm, not working yet, but you don't have to duplicate the validators, right? and also, who creates/spawns the void ray attack beam actor? |
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| 20:05.30 | Tehwildcard | yoo |
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| 20:06.20 | Razernok | anyone know how I can force a target spell (like AOE ones) to cast up to the point of having me select target area? |
| 20:06.50 | Tehwildcard | You couldn't do it like that |
| 20:07.29 | Tehwildcard | You could mark the point you wanted the spell to go |
| 20:07.33 | Tehwildcard | then have them cast on that point |
| 20:08.36 | Kaldurenik | Have anyone found a way to have 3 levels of terrain instead of 2 (in heigth) |
| 20:08.49 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03Sholdak * r92 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (12 files in 3 directories): Finished XML merging |
| 20:08.51 | Repo | Core and Liberty data is read only |
| 20:08.52 | Repo | 'Merged' Data contains all XML from all data sources |
| 20:08.53 | Repo | 'Local' Map data is automatically generated when modifying merged data. |
| 20:08.56 | Razernok | anyway to change the cursor to the aoe cursor? |
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| 20:09.06 | Tehwildcard | Another thing you can't do :P |
| 20:09.25 | Razernok | damnit |
| 20:09.28 | `3ICE | yes we can |
| 20:09.37 | `3ICE | just go to data editor and play around with cursors |
| 20:09.42 | Tehwildcard | >.> |
| 20:09.45 | Razernok | so much for my game having aoe spells |
| 20:09.53 | `3ICE | no1 made a tutorial on those yet so it is new, untested water |
| 20:11.01 | `3ICE | good luck |
| 20:11.01 | Tehwildcard | how would it change in game though? |
| 20:11.01 | Tehwildcard | You would just have to set a default one |
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| 20:11.01 | `3ICE | as i said, untested water |
| 20:11.01 | `3ICE | for you to figure out :) |
| 20:11.02 | Fatal5101 | omg wildcard! |
| 20:11.13 | Tehwildcard | Don't think you can `3ICE |
| 20:11.15 | Tehwildcard | hey fatal |
| 20:11.24 | Fatal5101 | i need you to make me a flame thrower |
| 20:11.52 | Tehwildcard | aka hellion :P? |
| 20:11.55 | Fatal5101 | no |
| 20:11.58 | Fatal5101 | like the balls of fire |
| 20:12.00 | Fatal5101 | in scramble |
| 20:12.04 | Fatal5101 | helion fire is ugly |
| 20:12.06 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 20:12.13 | Fatal5101 | i want the pretty fire |
| 20:12.18 | `3ICE | some1 wanted to talk w/ you heysparky |
| 20:12.26 | `3ICE | i forgot who! :/ |
| 20:12.29 | Tehwildcard | thats pretty easy fatal |
| 20:12.44 | Tehwildcard | do you want it to acctually burn stuff though >.> |
| 20:12.46 | Tehwildcard | or just for looks |
| 20:13.07 | Tehwildcard | like fake putting trees on fire? |
| 20:13.12 | Fatal5101 | no |
| 20:13.16 | Fatal5101 | like a flame thrower shooting out fire |
| 20:13.19 | Razernok | well then, so much for me having area target spells :( |
| 20:13.29 | Fatal5101 | and hurting creeps! |
| 20:13.40 | Tehwildcard | kk :P I'll make it when I have a chance |
| 20:13.42 | Fatal5101 | and they are like it burns! |
| 20:14.11 | Fatal5101 | brb computer is dying need to restart it |
| 20:14.31 | Beider | Anyone know how you access which game variant is picked from triggers? |
| 20:15.00 | `3ICE | should be pretty straightforward... idk though |
| 20:15.06 | `3ICE | all my games have 1 variant |
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| 20:15.18 | `3ICE | hosting system sucks too bad for me to use multiple variants |
| 20:15.38 | `3ICE | once we get the old war3-style hosting it will make sense to add multiple variants |
| 20:16.08 | Beider | hmm |
| 20:16.14 | Beider | well can't seem to figure out how to load em |
| 20:16.37 | Razernok | 3ice, we may never get the wc3-style hosting |
| 20:16.41 | `3ICE | yeah :/ |
| 20:16.46 | `3ICE | once can still have hope! |
| 20:16.54 | `3ICE | or threaten blizz |
| 20:17.04 | `3ICE | beat some sense into them... |
| 20:17.36 | Lyrrad | not sure I care if we get wc3 style hosting, as long as we get something useful with the current hosting setup |
| 20:18.27 | Razernok | Beider, conditions allow you to check Attributes |
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| 20:19.54 | Fatal510 | im back |
| 20:19.56 | Fatal510 | dont panic |
| 20:20.04 | probalon | so my units aren't being removed :( |
| 20:20.15 | Helral | sees Fatal510 |
| 20:20.19 | Helral | panics |
| 20:20.22 | Fatal510 | lets see the trigger |
| 20:20.22 | Helral | ;p |
| 20:21.18 | probalon | Remove All Units From Unit Group Unit Group: Units In Unit Group Within Region Group: Units In Region Matching Condition Unit Type: Any Region: Entire Map Player: 13 Unit Filter: Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden Count: Any Amount Region: Playable Map Area Count: Any Amount |
| 20:21.56 | `3ICE | lol stoopid :) |
| 20:22.00 | `3ICE | that does nothing |
| 20:22.13 | `3ICE | you need to pick every unit in that unit group and remove (picked unit) |
| 20:22.20 | `3ICE | remove unit from unit group is for variables |
| 20:23.18 | probalon | as long as the units are created, can they be referred to as last created units? |
| 20:23.31 | exxor | yay, ok, got the void ray attack to work. besides copying the weapon and it's effects, you have to copy all the attack validators/behaviours/actors and adjust all their events so they trigger for the newly created effects.. |
| 20:23.32 | probalon | or is last created literal? |
| 20:24.06 | exxor | but uhm, after all this copying, the newly created weapon does more damage... weird |
| 20:24.12 | Fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.12 | Fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.12 | Fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:26.03 | Fatal510 | trying to do alittle something ike that probalon? |
| 20:26.14 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03xttocs * r93 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (10 files in 5 directories): |
| 20:26.16 | Repo | Fixed Release build. Minor tweaks to remove all the lame warnings. |
| 20:27.08 | exxor | is there a way to find out what events are linked to an effect? |
| 20:27.08 | wOlfLinG | Right, im playing around with melee game variants. Ive got 2 2v2 variants with differant starting places. How do i give one variant a differant starting place order than my other 2v2 mode? |
| 20:29.20 | Tehwildcard | Anyone else going to be trying for blizzcon tickets tomorrow? |
| 20:31.13 | Fatal510 | nope |
| 20:31.18 | probalon | thank you guys, it worked |
| 20:31.27 | `3ICE | np np |
| 20:32.13 | Lilianna | I went to two blizzcons, I'm okay for now. |
| 20:32.22 | Lilianna | no need to goto another one right now. |
| 20:32.49 | wOlfLinG | never been to a blizzcon |
| 20:33.25 | Razernok | damnit, i wish you could make an area target spell cast but wait for the player to select the area to cast on. |
| 20:33.27 | wOlfLinG | Probably wont be able to anyway, due to being 15 and parents pretty much hating video games xD |
| 20:36.38 | Tehwildcard | With good reason "games promote violence" |
| 20:36.50 | AV|AWAY | THEY DO |
| 20:37.23 | Tehwildcard | Every time a kill someone online its because I want to kill them irl |
| 20:37.39 | AV|AWAY | with the way people act online i can believe it |
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| 20:38.12 | AV|AWAY | back to afk |
| 20:39.52 | Razernok | sadly, you can't even get the mouse's current x and y position in the world without clicks |
| 20:40.14 | wOlfLinG | What do you think of my map? http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv354/RA3-Oathbreaker/8d8e9ac9.jpg |
| 20:40.43 | allenmelon | 15 year old making maps, awesome |
| 20:40.49 | wOlfLinG | :D |
| 20:41.09 | allenmelon | im 15 too btw, just dont feel like making maps, seems to hard |
| 20:41.12 | `3ICE | wOlfLinG imbalanced is one wort that springs to mind when I look at the middle. |
| 20:41.13 | wOlfLinG | Plus i know python and some C# ;) |
| 20:41.15 | allenmelon | my other friends do though |
| 20:41.25 | allenmelon | nice |
| 20:41.30 | Tehwildcard | I mean I made my first nuclear reactor at 12, just sayin |
| 20:41.31 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 20:41.33 | allenmelon | i was planning on learning java over the summer |
| 20:42.03 | wOlfLinG | dont know much java. I played around in Visual basic a bit, which got java-like results |
| 20:42.29 | allenmelon | main intention was to make android apps |
| 20:42.40 | Xan | java is meh |
| 20:42.55 | wOlfLinG | Also, 3ICE, why is it imbalanced? |
| 20:43.00 | `3ICE | mid |
| 20:43.04 | `3ICE | double high yield |
| 20:43.07 | `3ICE | whoever takes that wins |
| 20:43.10 | `3ICE | easy to defend |
| 20:43.46 | wOlfLinG | not that easy. Its extremly easy to be harrassed by air |
| 20:43.58 | wOlfLinG | at that mid point |
| 20:44.08 | Vophsix | grass in space? |
| 20:44.13 | `3ICE | nothing a few turrets can't handle |
| 20:44.20 | Tehwildcard | maybe make it where the 4 edges around the middle are in tank range |
| 20:44.29 | `3ICE | Vophsix welcome to the mind of a 15 years old! |
| 20:44.36 | Xan | seems that map is favoured against zerg. zerg would have a real hard time on it due to the small spaces |
| 20:45.00 | wOlfLinG | Yeah. Wierd thing is, im a zerg player xD |
| 20:45.40 | Xan | so not very balanced |
| 20:45.47 | wOlfLinG | Would probably favour terran due to nice places to drop and easy-ish reaper harrass |
| 20:46.02 | wOlfLinG | And so what if its not balanced? Its gonna be fun :) |
| 20:46.21 | Xan | not fun for zerg |
| 20:46.22 | Xan | ^^ |
| 20:46.31 | Vophsix | possibly switch the high yield onto the islands |
| 20:46.42 | wOlfLinG | Yeah, i think ill do that |
| 20:47.00 | Lilianna | Well you want high yield easy access hard to defend |
| 20:47.10 | ekcolnovkol | I DID IT AHAHAHAHA |
| 20:47.10 | ekcolnovkol | YES |
| 20:47.18 | ekcolnovkol | rages for joy |
| 20:47.28 | Lilianna | that map is really narrow, for ground units that is |
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| 20:49.16 | wOlfLinG | Its meant to be like that. It means you have to do new tactics. Maybe a 15 hatch, 17 hatch, 20 pool? |
| 20:49.53 | `3ICE | yeah, right |
| 20:51.21 | exxor | ah yes, age, nice subject ;) |
| 20:51.43 | Fatal510 | ~seen ignorance |
| 20:51.45 | purl | ignorance is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 31m 44s). Has said a total of 48 messages. Is idling for 2h 20m 14s, last said: 'just use Player = (Player (Random integer between 1 and (Number of players in (Active Players))) from (Active Players))'. |
| 20:53.20 | Fatal510 | Anyone know why my Map Editor crashes when i switch maps |
| 20:53.35 | `3ICE | it can't handle the awesome |
| 20:53.38 | Fatal510 | :( |
| 20:54.13 | Fatal510 | i wonder if blizzard actually looks out the crash reports |
| 20:54.27 | `3ICE | they collect them in a bin |
| 20:54.32 | `3ICE | litter bin |
| 20:54.43 | `3ICE | actually they do look at the crash reports |
| 20:54.54 | `3ICE | i estimate about 10 thousand reports / second |
| 20:55.10 | `3ICE | they look at the most common ones and fix those first |
| 20:55.30 | Lyrrad | That is a stupid way to do it |
| 20:55.31 | `3ICE | typing anything in the report's comment field is a waste of time tho |
| 20:55.35 | `3ICE | they don't read it |
| 20:55.37 | Lyrrad | They should fix my problems first |
| 20:55.41 | Vophsix | when was the last patch? |
| 20:55.59 | Lyrrad | Last night |
| 20:56.01 | `3ICE | couple hours ago patch 15 i think |
| 20:56.01 | Fatal510 | ^ |
| 20:56.08 | `3ICE | i just dled it |
| 20:56.10 | Lyrrad | unless one came out in the last few hours |
| 20:56.39 | Vophsix | oh - im running patch 13 =/ |
| 20:57.00 | Lyrrad | it came out 18 hours or so ago |
| 20:57.02 | Fatal510 | why does every program have me install new runtimes for the same framework? |
| 20:57.03 | `3ICE | in the editor options you can tell it to "check for new patches" |
| 20:57.07 | allenmelon | i dont like how bnet refreshes the beta so everyone has to start over again |
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| 20:57.18 | `3ICE | allenmelon then quit |
| 20:57.25 | Vophsix | i've got that chekd |
| 20:57.25 | Fatal510 | everytime i install a game it has me install the directx stuff again... how many times do i need to install it before i got every file |
| 20:57.28 | `3ICE | they needed these resets |
| 20:57.30 | Lyrrad | its a beta, they are testing stuff |
| 20:57.39 | `3ICE | Fatal510 something is wrong on your end |
| 20:57.48 | `3ICE | i nvr need to install directx i have the latest one |
| 20:58.13 | Fatal510 | i got a broken function |
| 20:58.15 | Fatal510 | who wants to fix it |
| 20:58.22 | Triceron | my ediot crashes too |
| 20:58.25 | Triceron | editor |
| 20:58.33 | Triceron | on load tho |
| 20:58.49 | Vophsix | http://pastebin.com/ Fatal |
| 20:59.31 | Vophsix | i just got round to working at the whole cursor splat thing |
| 20:59.49 | Vophsix | is there a way to add a "token" |
| 20:59.50 | Vophsix | in the data editor |
| 21:01.00 | exxor | I have a damage effect that does more damage then specified in the amount. At what other places could this amount be adjusted? |
| 21:01.45 | Tehwildcard | I think when you create the effect it will do the full amount, not sure where you could edit it. |
| 21:02.08 | Tehwildcard | I'll look around for you |
| 21:02.13 | Fatal510 | Alright i got this awesome function http://pastebin.com/KDRZR0fw it gets the next player in the game from nextPlayer(Player) and it works great. but once a player is defeated they are removed from the Player Group so it can no longer run say nextPlayer(2) because player 2 is dead so all the remaining units in that lane will be stuck there while the unit that first unit that touched it who actually caused the defeat moves on. |
| 21:02.42 | exxor | I've copied an existing weapon, and after copying, it does more damage per tick (period remains the same) |
| 21:02.54 | exxor | tehwildcard: awesome :) |
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| 21:03.48 | exxor | original weapon does 10 damage per interval, copied weapon has the same amount specified, but actually does 16 damage per interval |
| 21:04.10 | Fatal510 | is the weapon linked to the right effect? |
| 21:04.50 | exxor | fatal15): just double checked, and yes |
| 21:05.10 | exxor | Fatal510, sorry for the typos ;) |
| 21:05.19 | Fatal510 | im king of typos |
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| 21:07.03 | Fatal510 | does it actually display 16 damage in game |
| 21:07.07 | Vophsix | about your function Fatal - could you create another persistent player group that player are not removed from on defeat? |
| 21:07.16 | Fatal510 | i could |
| 21:07.22 | Fatal510 | but go on to tell me how that works |
| 21:07.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Still working on the lane? |
| 21:07.43 | Fatal510 | deltoid! |
| 21:07.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Hi' |
| 21:07.51 | Fatal510 | damn dont you ever sleep |
| 21:07.57 | P_R_Deltoid | for 8 hours 8-) |
| 21:08.08 | P_R_Deltoid | 5 till 2. |
| 21:08.10 | P_R_Deltoid | isn't that like |
| 21:08.14 | P_R_Deltoid | 9 hours? |
| 21:08.17 | Fatal510 | dont know |
| 21:08.19 | P_R_Deltoid | I hate math. Fuck math |
| 21:08.24 | P_R_Deltoid | Anyways! |
| 21:08.26 | Fatal510 | yep still having issues with the lane |
| 21:08.26 | P_R_Deltoid | whats up |
| 21:08.37 | P_R_Deltoid | anything new, or just the same one? |
| 21:08.44 | Fatal510 | didnt you say you got it to the point where they didnt get stuck my the archon got stuck |
| 21:08.52 | P_R_Deltoid | naw, he just got stuck AS WELL |
| 21:08.56 | Fatal510 | oh |
| 21:08.57 | Fatal510 | thats no good |
| 21:09.00 | P_R_Deltoid | It was something that happened when zergling speed got turned up |
| 21:09.34 | Fatal510 | all i did was use so far was just take your For Each loop |
| 21:09.37 | exxor | Fatal510: after each attack, the units that's attack has 16 less hp, and I did think about things like armour, damage reduction or whatever. But the original weapon substracts 10 hp each attack.. |
| 21:09.42 | Fatal510 | instead of my 10 nested if statements |
| 21:10.02 | Wihl | Fatal510 - Do you play hon or have you idled on mmoirc? |
| 21:10.12 | Fatal510 | i did play hon |
| 21:10.31 | Wihl | same name? I just remember seeing it somewhere and had to ask :p |
| 21:10.33 | Fatal510 | i remember your name |
| 21:10.41 | Fatal510 | yes this name |
| 21:11.12 | Wihl | maybe we raged at each other at some point, who knows |
| 21:11.26 | Fatal510 | ever use and mods on HoN? |
| 21:11.29 | Fatal510 | any* |
| 21:11.43 | Wihl | yeah |
| 21:11.45 | Fatal510 | maybe you got my name from the awesome PSR Filter i made |
| 21:11.50 | Wihl | possibly |
| 21:13.09 | Twiner | did they change the popularity system? |
| 21:13.09 | Fatal510 | Vophsix - what were you saying about another player group |
| 21:13.12 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/random-goof-map-thing-i-ma-jig/. The Random Goof Off Map Thing i ma jig. Plutigvid (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 21:13.16 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lunar-lander-advanced/. Lunar Lander Advanced. SirLyrrad (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 21:13.31 | Lyrrad | Yay my map is approved! |
| 21:13.38 | Fatal510 | oh no! |
| 21:13.44 | P_R_Deltoid | well, Fatal510, at least the error is gone! |
| 21:13.48 | Fatal510 | yes |
| 21:13.50 | Fatal510 | that makes me happy |
| 21:13.54 | Beider | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC0lIYQ0zHU <- demo of the UI I have been working on the past two days. Not in HD yet sadly, still processing |
| 21:13.58 | Vophsix | create a new player group at the start of the map - filled with the active players |
| 21:14.03 | Fatal510 | yep |
| 21:14.04 | Vophsix | and never remove any |
| 21:14.11 | Vophsix | then just loop through those |
| 21:14.19 | Fatal510 | thought about that |
| 21:14.27 | Fatal510 | but then the units will go through dead players lanes |
| 21:14.43 | Fatal510 | the reason they get removed is because they are suppose to skip lanes from players that are defeated |
| 21:14.56 | Vophsix | ok then |
| 21:15.06 | Vophsix | create the group as a dead players group |
| 21:15.14 | Vophsix | and when they are removed from the active players |
| 21:15.20 | Vophsix | put them in the dead players |
| 21:15.33 | Fatal510 | you just made me think of an idea! |
| 21:15.33 | Vophsix | and just move on all the units in the dead players lanes |
| 21:16.40 | Hati | ~seen vjeux |
| 21:16.42 | purl | vjeux <~52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/x-cwviphevwpmtnubr> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 1h 12m 36s ago, saying: 'News up'. |
| 21:16.48 | Vophsix | looks great Beider |
| 21:17.27 | Vophsix | UI works really nicely in SC2 |
| 21:17.29 | Beider | thanks Vophsix, currently a bit cluttered, probably going to go through many itterations |
| 21:17.35 | Beider | aye |
| 21:17.35 | Hati | Beider ? |
| 21:17.40 | Beider | Hati ? |
| 21:17.42 | Hati | does your terrain editor freeze ? |
| 21:17.47 | Beider | no? |
| 21:17.55 | Beider | why would it? |
| 21:17.55 | Hati | can you upload your SC2Editor.exe ? |
| 21:18.00 | Beider | umm ok |
| 21:18.02 | Hati | from SC2Beta\Support\ |
| 21:18.03 | Hati | mine is |
| 21:18.08 | Hati | from some others too |
| 21:18.22 | P_R_Deltoid | Why is a drone a bot? |
| 21:18.23 | Beider | 18 mb |
| 21:18.23 | Hati | and i don't want to repatch the whole thing yet |
| 21:18.25 | Beider | will take a while |
| 21:18.26 | P_R_Deltoid | @ Beider |
| 21:18.30 | Beider | P_R_Deltoid: test data |
| 21:18.38 | P_R_Deltoid | custom stuff gonna be there? |
| 21:18.40 | P_R_Deltoid | What is the game? |
| 21:18.44 | Beider | battle bots |
| 21:19.04 | Vophsix | it's a terminator style drone?! |
| 21:19.13 | `3ICE | test data |
| 21:19.14 | Beider | you buy a bot, equip it with items, program it (how it moves, how it responds to events like being attacked / spotting enemies), then fight other bots to win money |
| 21:19.30 | Beider | then you upgrade it, etc.. |
| 21:19.37 | Razernok | :( i guess then there is no way to have a custom UI with spell buttons that allow aoe spells where the player selects the casting location. |
| 21:19.50 | Beider | Razernok : sure there is |
| 21:19.56 | Fatal510 | razernok is martul right? |
| 21:19.57 | Razernok | I've looked |
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| 21:20.24 | Hati | http://pics.nase-bohren.de/themoreyouplay.jpg mkay. |
| 21:20.34 | Tehwildcard | Razernok, I already said it could be done I just dont know how to change the cursor |
| 21:20.41 | Razernok | Beider, this is the only way to issue orders |
| 21:20.42 | Beider | when the user clicks the button change the cursor, then put an invisible button all over the screen, then register the next mouse click and calculate the position to cast based on the current camera + mouse XY |
| 21:20.59 | Tehwildcard | "change the cursor" |
| 21:21.15 | Razernok | can't change the cursor |
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| 21:22.02 | Beider | Hati: uploading now, will take a while |
| 21:22.07 | Beider | maybe 5 min or so |
| 21:22.11 | Hati | lol |
| 21:22.12 | Hati | a while |
| 21:22.36 | Hati | i thought approx 30min :P |
| 21:24.17 | exxor | is there an action that you can use when an actor event triggers that can be used to debug? to just display some text on screen or whatever? |
| 21:24.23 | Razernok | "The Lord of the Rings Online will be going Free to Play." well sucks for those who paid $100s for the lifetime subscription |
| 21:25.10 | Beider | Hati : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1586398/SC2Editor.exe |
| 21:25.17 | Lyrrad | depends on if they have played more then $100 in monthly subscriptions |
| 21:25.32 | Beider | source Razernok ? |
| 21:25.40 | Razernok | http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/17155/Lord-of-the-Rings-Online-Free-to-Play-Interview.html |
| 21:26.06 | Lyrrad | If they are switching to a free to play, then its probably because their numbers are getting pretty low, in which case new/more blood would probably be a good thing |
| 21:26.08 | Vophsix | LOTRO was a good game - really bad UI though |
| 21:26.23 | Ignorance | RAAAAAWR |
| 21:26.23 | P_R_Deltoid | You know what was a better LOTR game? |
| 21:26.27 | P_R_Deltoid | LOTR BFME2 ROTWK |
| 21:26.34 | Ignorance | I AM ARTHUR, KING OF THE BRITAINS |
| 21:26.37 | ekcolnovkol | anyone know how to modify ability upkeep costs? |
| 21:26.45 | ekcolnovkol | can't find it anywhere ;S |
| 21:26.53 | P_R_Deltoid | supply costs? |
| 21:26.54 | Razernok | We are the Knights Who Say Ni |
| 21:26.55 | P_R_Deltoid | wait |
| 21:26.56 | ekcolnovkol | no |
| 21:26.56 | P_R_Deltoid | upkeep? |
| 21:26.58 | ekcolnovkol | like |
| 21:27.01 | Helral | @Ignorance: I didn't vote for you. |
| 21:27.03 | ekcolnovkol | cloak costs 1 energy/sec |
| 21:27.06 | P_R_Deltoid | Ohhh, okay |
| 21:27.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Gotcha |
| 21:27.14 | P_R_Deltoid | (that was my next guess B-) ) |
| 21:27.17 | ekcolnovkol | yea |
| 21:27.20 | ekcolnovkol | know how? :u |
| 21:27.27 | P_R_Deltoid | no idea, I never use the data editor |
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| 21:27.39 | Hati | thx beider |
| 21:28.30 | Hati | hmm works now :) |
| 21:28.39 | Hati | btw. what was your locale ? |
| 21:28.39 | Helral | @ekcol: check behaviors and look for the ghost cloak ;p |
| 21:28.56 | Beider | engb |
| 21:29.11 | Vophsix | has anyone had experience with "tokens" in the data editor? |
| 21:29.12 | Hati | hmm enUS but who cares |
| 21:29.14 | Hati | works fine :P |
| 21:29.14 | Ignorance | If only I had more time |
| 21:29.15 | `3ICE | i have both enus and engb editors |
| 21:29.16 | Beider | ^^ |
| 21:29.18 | `3ICE | nvm then |
| 21:29.23 | Ignorance | then I could fix the last issue with Sentry Scramble |
| 21:29.27 | Ignorance | and release the map |
| 21:29.30 | Ignorance | adadasdsdadas |
| 21:29.31 | Helral | hehehe |
| 21:29.35 | Hati | well its actually 5kb smaller than the one i had |
| 21:29.37 | Ignorance | Tehwildcard, finish it! |
| 21:29.37 | `3ICE | stop with this "experience with *" bullshit |
| 21:29.45 | Razernok | I guess my game will only have spells that cast on a single target or the target and units around the target (predefined target) since there is no way to do aoe spells in a custom UI setting |
| 21:29.45 | Helral | I just added chests to my map. ;p |
| 21:30.22 | Ignorance | hey razernok |
| 21:30.24 | Ignorance | point targert |
| 21:30.29 | Ignorance | use an aoe effect :P |
| 21:30.35 | Hati | might gonna upload it to sc2mapster - to fix the patch issue |
| 21:30.47 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/popularity-boost-1-phoenix-4-requests/ |
| 21:30.55 | Hati | if admins agree :p |
| 21:31.01 | Razernok | Ignorance: I'm talking about allowing the player to select the area to cast the aoe spell |
| 21:31.15 | Tehwildcard | They can select the area |
| 21:31.18 | Tehwildcard | jesus Ive told you this |
| 21:31.20 | Tehwildcard | like 9 times now |
| 21:31.23 | Tehwildcard | just no cursor |
| 21:31.43 | Beider | did anyone test how big you can make a string in a bank before the bank crashes? |
| 21:31.55 | Beider | Ingame you can easily do 100.000 characters in a string without any problem |
| 21:32.10 | Beider | even 1 million seems to work ok |
| 21:32.24 | Hati | until HD is full |
| 21:32.30 | Beider | aye but will the game load... |
| 21:32.33 | Beider | that is the question |
| 21:32.43 | Razernok | only way to cast spells in a custom UI setting is with Issue Order which requires a predefined point or target |
| 21:32.53 | Fatal510 | lies |
| 21:32.59 | P_R_Deltoid | Hey uihm |
| 21:33.02 | Beider | for my new game I will store the custom code people make as strings, items they have, units they have, everything in one or two long strings |
| 21:33.03 | P_R_Deltoid | ekcolnovkol, I think I found it |
| 21:33.05 | Hati | well how big 1mil is? |
| 21:33.09 | Fatal510 | ignorance |
| 21:33.16 | Fatal510 | i have 1 last request from you |
| 21:33.20 | `3ICE | in case someone doesn't know: banks are very fragile as of now, adding 100 not-so-long strings to a bank causes it to break next game |
| 21:33.36 | P_R_Deltoid | what are banks, exactly? |
| 21:33.41 | `3ICE | gamecache 2.0 |
| 21:33.57 | `3ICE | preserved betwen games, unencrypted storage |
| 21:34.03 | P_R_Deltoid | on the local computer? |
| 21:34.04 | Beider | good question Hati |
| 21:34.04 | ekcolnovkol | thanks hati |
| 21:34.06 | P_R_Deltoid | correct? |
| 21:34.12 | `3ICE | yeah on the local computer |
| 21:34.12 | ekcolnovkol | i mean |
| 21:34.13 | Hati | what did i do ? |
| 21:34.13 | ekcolnovkol | Heral |
| 21:34.16 | P_R_Deltoid | So it's basically just game persistant variables |
| 21:34.28 | `3ICE | yeah they'd be cool if they worked... |
| 21:34.33 | `3ICE | but they don't! |
| 21:34.41 | `3ICE | store 100 strings and it no longer loads them :/ |
| 21:34.41 | P_R_Deltoid | ekcolnovkol, did you figure out the energy thing |
| 21:35.00 | Hati | well but as beider said 1 string of length 1mil seems to work |
| 21:35.02 | Ignorance | huh? |
| 21:35.08 | `3ICE | no he "asked" |
| 21:35.11 | Beider | it works to load it into memory |
| 21:35.12 | Ignorance | Razernoke |
| 21:35.13 | Fatal510 | broken function~! |
| 21:35.14 | Ignorance | Razernok |
| 21:35.21 | Beider | I am wondering if it would work in a bank |
| 21:35.23 | Ignorance | that's based on targeting stuff |
| 21:35.25 | Ignorance | not |
| 21:35.27 | Ignorance | type |
| 21:35.29 | Ignorance | like |
| 21:35.32 | Ignorance | look at sentry force field |
| 21:35.38 | Ignorance | point target, but has aoe appearance |
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| 21:35.48 | Beider | 1 million characters should be like 2 mb |
| 21:35.49 | Beider | maybe |
| 21:35.52 | Beider | aproximately |
| 21:35.54 | Ignorance | If anything, you could just modify the fungal shit |
| 21:35.55 | Tehwildcard | Razer -> user hits hotkey or presses button on custom ui -> turn trigger 'get point' on -> event user clicks action set real var x pos of mouse click set real var y pos of mouse click -> run trigger cast spell -> issuse order targetting point (X,Y) |
| 21:35.55 | `3ICE | probably has to do with the placement actor/model |
| 21:35.56 | Tehwildcard | omg |
| 21:36.24 | Razernok | Issue Order is an action but no way to make it wait for player to select target instead. |
| 21:36.28 | `3ICE | don't overdo it, we have force field AoE placement cursos |
| 21:36.30 | Beider | but then again, 1 million is shitloads. I think the most my map would approach is maybe 100.000 with 10 players |
| 21:37.03 | Hati | its a actor |
| 21:37.05 | Hati | Cursor Splat |
| 21:37.06 | Hati | called |
| 21:37.07 | Beider | Tehwildcard: doesn't get mouse click X / Y get the screen coordinates not the ingame ones |
| 21:37.15 | Tehwildcard | you can get ui or world |
| 21:37.26 | Beider | ah ok |
| 21:37.28 | Tehwildcard | you would get ui with an interger var |
| 21:37.30 | Tehwildcard | world with a real |
| 21:37.45 | Hati | world = point, int = resolution portion |
| 21:37.50 | Hati | eh UI* |
| 21:38.13 | Hati | you can also get the Height of you click in world :) |
| 21:40.37 | P_R_Deltoid | haha |
| 21:40.41 | P_R_Deltoid | rowland did it |
| 21:40.45 | P_R_Deltoid | that owns |
| 21:47.09 | Fatal510 | got quite in here |
| 21:47.38 | `3ICE | at least i can (could) watch a vieo uninterrupted by BEEP-new message on IRc-BEEP |
| 21:47.55 | Fatal510 | you have it beep on ANY new message? |
| 21:47.58 | Fatal510 | good to know |
| 21:48.01 | `3ICE | :D |
| 21:48.10 | `3ICE | its a wav file, not a hardware beep |
| 21:48.33 | `3ICE | hardware beeps would be annnnnoying |
| 21:49.18 | Tehwildcard | so |
| 21:49.21 | Tehwildcard | typing |
| 21:49.23 | Tehwildcard | annoys you |
| 21:49.28 | Tehwildcard | noted |
| 21:49.38 | `3ICE | no it doesnt |
| 21:49.46 | Tehwildcard | r |
| 21:49.47 | Tehwildcard | u |
| 21:49.48 | Tehwildcard | sure? |
| 21:50.10 | Fatal510 | i |
| 21:50.13 | Fatal510 | think |
| 21:50.14 | Fatal510 | hes |
| 21:50.14 | Fatal510 | sure |
| 21:50.18 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 21:51.14 | Fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:51.34 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 21:51.55 | Fatal510 | i like how you made the next lane function more simple |
| 21:51.59 | Fatal510 | instead of a butt load of if statements |
| 21:52.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, that was mainly why I decided to try it out |
| 21:52.22 | Fatal510 | i think that would work out well for my life loss/gain trigger |
| 21:52.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, your other triggers that do the same thing for each player can be more easily done with For statements |
| 21:53.34 | Fatal510 | whatcha working on?! |
| 21:53.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Me? Nothing, really. |
| 21:53.54 | P_R_Deltoid | I was trying to make a UI, but I get frustrated |
| 21:53.57 | Fatal510 | ohh... so your bored? |
| 21:54.02 | ekcolnovkol | anyone know how to make units hidden to specific players :u |
| 21:54.13 | P_R_Deltoid | I suppose? I can't think of any way to fix that problem, though. |
| 21:54.34 | Fatal510 | oh i got other problems |
| 21:54.52 | `3ICE | ekcolnovkol flash black-white lights quickly for that one player |
| 21:54.59 | `3ICE | he then goes blind and won't see the units |
| 21:55.04 | WhiteBomber | Someone called? |
| 21:55.07 | `3ICE | I'm helpful. |
| 21:55.36 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 21:55.57 | P_R_Deltoid | Set alliances? |
| 21:56.05 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't understand what you mean, what unit team is it? |
| 21:56.13 | Twiner | Golem is a stupid map |
| 21:56.20 | Twiner | the parts need to have no pathing |
| 21:56.38 | ekcolnovkol | well basically i need a unit that multiple players can access, but builds units specifically for each player |
| 21:56.54 | ekcolnovkol | since i couldn't do that |
| 21:57.03 | Fatal510 | omg |
| 21:57.08 | ekcolnovkol | i thought i'd just make the same unit 5 times and hide each version from the other players |
| 21:57.13 | P_R_Deltoid | so you want it visible to only the owning player? |
| 21:57.14 | Fatal510 | i was thinking about how to do the win condition |
| 21:57.15 | Fatal510 | then it hit me |
| 21:57.19 | ekcolnovkol | pretty much |
| 21:57.19 | P_R_Deltoid | are they allies? |
| 21:57.22 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 21:57.29 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 21:57.42 | Tehwildcard | You cant "hide" a unit for a certain player |
| 21:57.54 | ekcolnovkol | i noticed that :/ |
| 21:57.59 | Tehwildcard | you could.. not give them vision of that unit |
| 21:58.06 | Twiner | god |
| 21:58.08 | ekcolnovkol | that's so ghetto |
| 21:58.20 | Twiner | i can't believe they rae still using your battle.net email address |
| 21:58.24 | Twiner | thats such a friggen security issue |
| 21:59.17 | Twiner | Sometimes I really wonder about the blizzard guys |
| 21:59.27 | Twiner | when it comes to application style stuff..... |
| 21:59.28 | Twiner | horrible |
| 21:59.29 | ekcolnovkol | i hate how i can identify almost any player action EXCEPT for when a player decides to research/build/use an ability |
| 21:59.35 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 21:59.35 | Twiner | their bit torrent clients suck |
| 21:59.38 | P_R_Deltoid | I think I might have found it |
| 21:59.41 | Tehwildcard | Battle.net 2.0 is amazing |
| 21:59.41 | ekcolnovkol | o.o |
| 21:59.43 | Twiner | so bad, that they are useless |
| 21:59.47 | ekcolnovkol | awaits eagerly |
| 21:59.47 | Tehwildcard | No clue what you are talking about |
| 21:59.49 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 21:59.50 | P_R_Deltoid | testing |
| 22:00.01 | Twiner | Tehwildcard: having to give out my email address so get b.net friends? |
| 22:00.02 | Twiner | no |
| 22:00.04 | Twiner | thats terrible |
| 22:00.09 | Tehwildcard | No great idea |
| 22:00.13 | Twiner | terrible idea |
| 22:00.14 | Tehwildcard | that way everyone has your email |
| 22:00.19 | Tehwildcard | Its so amazing |
| 22:00.26 | Twiner | ah you're being sarcastic |
| 22:00.27 | Tehwildcard | I feel more connected to all my online pals |
| 22:00.31 | Tehwildcard | No way |
| 22:00.33 | Fatal510 | i do too |
| 22:00.38 | Fatal510 | can i have your number |
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| 22:00.43 | Tehwildcard | Yes |
| 22:01.16 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 22:01.16 | P_R_Deltoid | wait |
| 22:01.20 | P_R_Deltoid | are computers auto-hostile? |
| 22:01.41 | Lyrrad | depends on the team set up |
| 22:01.48 | ekcolnovkol | uh |
| 22:01.52 | ekcolnovkol | what do you mean |
| 22:02.03 | ekcolnovkol | there's 5 players and 1 cpu on one team |
| 22:02.06 | ekcolnovkol | and same on other side |
| 22:02.09 | P_R_Deltoid | like if I put something down for player two and set it's team to computer, will it be hostile |
| 22:02.14 | Twiner | hates internet sarcasm |
| 22:02.17 | Lyrrad | meaning if the teams are set up so that there is an AI on your team, then it won't be hostile |
| 22:02.28 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 22:02.29 | ekcolnovkol | uh |
| 22:02.31 | ekcolnovkol | ? |
| 22:02.31 | P_R_Deltoid | well this one is angry |
| 22:02.35 | ekcolnovkol | :x |
| 22:02.45 | Lyrrad | not sure how well team set up is working atm however |
| 22:02.55 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 22:02.56 | P_R_Deltoid | I just want |
| 22:02.56 | ekcolnovkol | well for one you can't even set up teams in the lobby |
| 22:02.59 | P_R_Deltoid | to create a unit |
| 22:03.01 | ekcolnovkol | :| |
| 22:03.01 | P_R_Deltoid | on a team |
| 22:03.03 | P_R_Deltoid | that I am allied with |
| 22:03.05 | P_R_Deltoid | to test this |
| 22:03.10 | ekcolnovkol | sure you can |
| 22:03.16 | ekcolnovkol | each team has 2 allies |
| 22:03.17 | P_R_Deltoid | okay, and how? |
| 22:03.19 | Lyrrad | you can use a trigger to make an AI non-hostile |
| 22:03.25 | ekcolnovkol | one with shared abilities, one without |
| 22:03.27 | Fatal510 | you know what would look cool |
| 22:03.30 | Fatal510 | a HUGE baneling |
| 22:03.40 | Lyrrad | for now that is probably the way to do it until blizzard gets the game variations and player slots fixed |
| 22:03.49 | ekcolnovkol | lolblizzard:/ |
| 22:04.02 | P_R_Deltoid | does... color deteremine team? |
| 22:04.22 | ekcolnovkol | no |
| 22:04.26 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 22:04.29 | P_R_Deltoid | I just need |
| 22:04.37 | P_R_Deltoid | a very simple task |
| 22:04.43 | P_R_Deltoid | I want to set the computer to my ally |
| 22:04.44 | P_R_Deltoid | how do I do that |
| 22:04.54 | ekcolnovkol | <_> triggers |
| 22:05.09 | Fatal510 | map > Player Properties! |
| 22:05.20 | P_R_Deltoid | alriught, alright |
| 22:05.21 | P_R_Deltoid | got it |
| 22:05.27 | P_R_Deltoid | player properties can't set alliances, apparently |
| 22:05.36 | Fatal510 | gotta create the teams |
| 22:05.38 | Fatal510 | :( |
| 22:05.39 | Fatal510 | i dont know |
| 22:05.48 | P_R_Deltoid | well, that idea flopped |
| 22:05.59 | ekcolnovkol | don't worry about it |
| 22:06.01 | Lyrrad | things are unstable around the player/team set up, I'd probably avoid it |
| 22:06.08 | ekcolnovkol | until they fix all this crap, i have a workaround |
| 22:06.13 | P_R_Deltoid | for the record, setting "Detect Filters" to Player Only doesn't work |
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| 22:06.49 | Fatal510 | deltoid i have an idea~! |
| 22:06.59 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah? |
| 22:07.04 | P_R_Deltoid | what idea |
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| 22:07.12 | Fatal510 | about how to fix the nextplayer func |
| 22:08.16 | Fatal510 | i could check the param input to see if the player exist if it does not add 1 to it and then check if it exist! |
| 22:08.25 | Fatal510 | then continue the rest of the function |
| 22:08.44 | P_R_Deltoid | Isn't that what it already does? |
| 22:08.52 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 22:08.52 | Fatal510 | i dont know anymore |
| 22:09.38 | Fatal510 | no.. because if it does NextPlayer(2) and 2 is dead i cant continue because 2 is not there. so it would check if 2 was there first |
| 22:09.49 | Fatal510 | if 2 is not there then +1 |
| 22:09.51 | Fatal510 | check again |
| 22:09.52 | Fatal510 | continue |
| 22:11.41 | exxor | so I've managed to almost duplicate the void ray axept that it doesn't turn off the second stage, so initial the first stage is doing damage, then the second stage and after that both the second and third stage... |
| 22:11.58 | Fatal510 | uber dmg beam |
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| 22:12.34 | exxor | yes, but I only want the third stage to fire |
| 22:13.59 | exxor | btw, how are effects triggered? |
| 22:17.32 | Fatal510 | i think i almost got i! |
| 22:17.54 | exxor | this is getting slightly frustrating... |
| 22:18.11 | Fatal510 | i dont really know anything about your case |
| 22:18.11 | Fatal510 | sry |
| 22:18.46 | exxor | yeah, I'm getting slightly frustrated with the editor, not you ;) |
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| 22:19.39 | exxor | just that I've spend the last 6 hours trying to just duplicate this weapon so I can make a lot of variations of it, and still no luck |
| 22:19.55 | exxor | but such is life |
| 22:19.57 | switch | The popularity ranking sucks so hard XP |
| 22:20.03 | switch | just wanted to vent |
| 22:20.40 | switch | I habe a popular map on the eu servers but it's stupidly hard to update it |
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| 22:21.14 | switch | just have to hope that the new version gets picked up from page 80 :p |
| 22:21.29 | Lyrrad | create a lot of games with the new version |
| 22:21.56 | Lyrrad | and then create a game with the old version and the go afk in the lobby |
| 22:22.16 | switch | lol |
| 22:23.06 | Lyrrad | if you are afk in the lobby then people will have a hard time creating games and it will drop fairly quickly |
| 22:23.07 | switch | I hope they fix it before release :p |
| 22:23.17 | exxor | there needs to be a "brand new releases" tab or whatever. I've had plenty of times where I wanted to try new maps but couldn't because when you're on page 4 or 5, the lobby doesn't fill up anymore |
| 22:23.40 | Lyrrad | Anything off the first 2 pages is pretty hopeless |
| 22:23.50 | switch | yeah |
| 22:24.03 | switch | even if you want to play one nobody will join |
| 22:24.09 | exxor | such a shame, because there are more then two pages worth of cool maps on there |
| 22:24.14 | Lyrrad | so you just need to repeatedly create your new map to get it onto page 2, and then lock out your old version |
| 22:24.15 | Kurodragon | And if you want to keep up top, they have to be short, small games |
| 22:24.29 | Lyrrad | or extremely popular |
| 22:25.25 | A1win | is there away to disable the doodad fading when camera is close to them? |
| 22:25.31 | switch | I tried playing a bunch of times to get the new version up there but it didn't work and rea;;y shoulldn't be that much work :p |
| 22:25.35 | Lyrrad | I expect blizzard is well aware of the general disapproval of the current set up, and I expect that there will be a new system in place for the next stage of the beta |
| 22:25.49 | switch | here's hoping :) |
| 22:25.56 | exxor | I think this area is one of the few where a couple of changes could make a huge adition in gameplay experiance |
| 22:25.58 | Lyrrad | switch, you just start and then leave, don't play it |
| 22:26.35 | switch | starting and leaving works? I was just quitting but that would be much faster |
| 22:26.37 | switch | cool |
| 22:27.18 | switch | exxor: yeah |
| 22:27.22 | switch | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.32 | Lyrrad | I think if you create a game it adds one to your count, if you look at the front page for sc2mapster it has a note to that effect at the top |
| 22:27.47 | Kurodragon | There will be a problem though |
| 22:27.53 | Kurodragon | You'll get about 60-70 games in 10 minutes |
| 22:28.01 | Kurodragon | After an hour, your game will suddenly drop by 70 games |
| 22:28.16 | Kurodragon | So if its hovering near the bottom of the pages, it'll dissapear into the next one |
| 22:28.29 | Lyrrad | by that time there should hopefully be enough people playing that it will stay on the first couple pages |
| 22:29.25 | Lyrrad | unless it really sucks in which case no one wants to play it anyways |
| 22:29.31 | switch | hehe |
| 22:29.41 | Lyrrad | well...they will probably play it even if it does suck |
| 22:29.45 | switch | well I'm on ~150 per hour |
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| 22:29.55 | switch | and it's been up to 300 |
| 22:30.03 | Lyrrad | Thats good enough for the first pages isn;t it? |
| 22:30.11 | switch | yeah |
| 22:30.16 | switch | but not for the new version |
| 22:30.21 | switch | I need to replace it |
| 22:30.29 | Lyrrad | so get your new version up to 100, and then sabatage the old version |
| 22:30.52 | switch | mm |
| 22:31.07 | TheLaughingMan | Woot Woot |
| 22:31.14 | TheLaughingMan | This is going to be easy as pie now! |
| 22:31.24 | Lyrrad | what is? |
| 22:31.47 | Verr82 | How come when I publish my map it increases by 300KB? Is there anything I can do to stop this? |
| 22:31.59 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/pacman-kosheus/. Pacman v. 0.1 by Kosheus. ionized (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 22:32.02 | Kurodragon | What does making a trigger a template do? |
| 22:33.01 | switch | you have to open to public for it to count btw :) |
| 22:33.37 | Lyrrad | yes |
| 22:33.54 | switch | I shouldn't care this much it's just frustrating when you spend time fixing bugs and balancing :) |
| 22:34.11 | exxor | just wanting to make sure I have the right idea, but validators can only be used with actor events? |
| 22:34.34 | Lyrrad | valdiataors can be used all over the place |
| 22:35.04 | Kurodragon | I'm glad they left some validators in from scrapped units |
| 22:35.26 | switch | lol someone made a 16 player map for a chat room |
| 22:35.34 | Kurodragon | Like the plague validator that checks if a unit has less than 2 health, it helped me do a toggable Stimpack |
| 22:35.42 | exxor | can it be used for anything else besides in combination with events? |
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| 22:35.48 | Kurodragon | Effects |
| 22:36.09 | exxor | effects, yes, that's what I ment to say ;) |
| 22:36.50 | Kurodragon | I havent used them outside of those so I dont know |
| 22:38.03 | Kurodragon | How do you give a unit a health bar? I can't find where to do it |
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| 22:39.33 | exxor | bossbar? |
| 22:40.48 | Kurodragon | I have a Mengsk Statue, but it doesnt have a healthbar above it |
| 22:40.59 | Kurodragon | like all the other normal units |
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| 22:42.15 | onetwo | hi |
| 22:42.32 | wOlfLinG | LOL, just got my friend to join dota :D |
| 22:42.38 | switch | haha |
| 22:42.38 | exxor | nope, sorry, had a quick look but I think it's fairly fundamental |
| 22:42.40 | Vulfe | lol |
| 22:43.14 | onetwo | haha bi bashiok |
| 22:43.17 | onetwo | by* |
| 22:43.18 | onetwo | Thanks for the collection of feedback and the constructive tone. Always appreciated. We're fully aware of the concerns that are being discussed in the various threads, on fansites, detailed through kitten videos, etc. and we're in the midst of working on a comprehensive address that should hit most of the major concerns. Just a heads up. |
| 22:43.23 | wOlfLinG | Hes basically saying 'Idiot', 'Icant believe you did that to me' etc :D |
| 22:43.25 | onetwo | i like his mention of husky's video |
| 22:43.38 | wOlfLinG | ya |
| 22:43.43 | A1win | uh can't find it... when there's a unit behind a doodad like the rock arch, the doodad becomes translucent... how do I disable it from doing so? ;p |
| 22:43.53 | onetwo | i hope they got Reactorex's post about |
| 22:43.57 | onetwo | publishing |
| 22:44.00 | onetwo | on the map dev forums |
| 22:44.03 | Vophsix | link onetwo? |
| 22:45.13 | Ignorance | My plan for better mapmaking: Whenever you try to re-publish a map made by somebody else, the galaxy editor turns into a dragon and eats you. |
| 22:45.29 | switch | I approve of this idea |
| 22:45.42 | Vulfe | double approved |
| 22:45.50 | Alpha_vst | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:46.00 | TheLaughingMan | Does anyone know if you can do an if statement but make sure 3 different things have to be true? |
| 22:46.01 | Alpha_vst | Dragons are good |
| 22:46.03 | NeoDeathXp | Hey folks |
| 22:46.05 | Ignorance | We should get this to Blizzard, guys. It has a 100% approval rating! |
| 22:46.13 | Ignorance | yes, thelaughingman |
| 22:46.13 | switch | :o |
| 22:46.16 | Alpha_vst | TLM OR!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:46.17 | Ignorance | It's like that by default |
| 22:46.18 | onetwo | its on general forums |
| 22:46.19 | onetwo | of bnet |
| 22:46.20 | Ignorance | or you could use and |
| 22:46.23 | onetwo | the one about constructive feedback |
| 22:46.28 | onetwo | or which link |
| 22:46.31 | onetwo | to reactorexs post? |
| 22:46.33 | onetwo | or bashioks? |
| 22:46.34 | Ignorance | The dragon one. |
| 22:46.34 | NeoDeathXp | anuone on US battle net help me test my Final Fantasy's party system quick? |
| 22:46.45 | Alpha_vst | NO |
| 22:46.53 | Vophsix | dw i found it, thanks tho |
| 22:46.58 | NeoDeathXp | damnit alpha |
| 22:47.00 | Alpha_vst | i just got done watch tooth fairy i have to map make now |
| 22:47.02 | TheLaughingMan | Ignorance, it is && right for and? |
| 22:47.04 | wOlfLinG | So, ima gonna make a mod. Like, any +1s? Or maybe any -1s? Cause like, ah may not do it if no-one cares about maps and stuff |
| 22:47.13 | Ignorance | oh, are you typing it in by hand? |
| 22:47.23 | TheLaughingMan | yes |
| 22:47.27 | Ignorance | mmm |
| 22:47.30 | NeoDeathXp | anyone on US battle net help me test my Final Fantasy's party system quick? |
| 22:47.31 | Ignorance | just look for one then :P |
| 22:47.39 | Ignorance | put code in trigger editor -> go to debugger |
| 22:47.40 | Ignorance | -> look |
| 22:47.43 | Ignorance | -> see |
| 22:47.56 | Vophsix | && = and |
| 22:48.00 | Vophsix | || = or |
| 22:48.06 | TheLaughingMan | Trigger UI makes three different if statements |
| 22:48.22 | wOlfLinG | Btw, would putting an AI in a mod and then making a map depend on that mod make the map have a good ai? |
| 22:48.28 | onetwo | you guys seen video contest winners? |
| 22:48.30 | onetwo | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/contests/scvideo/video-winners-eu.html |
| 22:48.31 | onetwo | thats eu |
| 22:48.39 | onetwo | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/contests/scvideo/video-winners-us.html |
| 22:48.40 | onetwo | us |
| 22:48.43 | Hati | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128032 good answer at removal of id (well, or disabling) |
| 22:48.43 | onetwo | winners |
| 22:48.43 | switch | I wish they made itt easier to edit galaxyscript directly :p |
| 22:48.48 | Vulfe | are they good? |
| 22:48.49 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 22:48.58 | onetwo | im not as impressed as i thought |
| 22:48.59 | Alpha_vst | i wish i tried making a movie though lo |
| 22:49.04 | onetwo | blizz's choices are odd |
| 22:49.06 | Vophsix | thanks, onetwo - hadn't seen yet |
| 22:49.10 | onetwo | i thought one of the EU ones |
| 22:49.13 | onetwo | should have been first |
| 22:49.15 | onetwo | it had great editing |
| 22:49.28 | onetwo | Runner up: Peter, BadenWürttemberg, Germany |
| 22:49.30 | onetwo | this one |
| 22:49.34 | onetwo | the winners didnt shine imo |
| 22:50.01 | Hati | the Machima contest ? |
| 22:50.06 | onetwo | yes |
| 22:50.53 | wOlfLinG | i liked the first Eu one tbh. Funny |
| 22:50.56 | onetwo | i think EU is definiltey better than US |
| 22:50.59 | onetwo | it was okay |
| 22:51.00 | Hati | well peters has hard graphic issues :x |
| 22:51.00 | onetwo | well done |
| 22:51.09 | onetwo | some were laggy-recorded |
| 22:51.14 | wOlfLinG | Message from rickrolled friend: you deserve to be killed for that |
| 22:51.15 | onetwo | it seems |
| 22:52.03 | Hati | well wolf - if ppl think DotA means Defend of the Ancient they are addicted |
| 22:52.10 | onetwo | they should have just recorded the game in slow mode |
| 22:52.13 | onetwo | then increased FPS later |
| 22:52.14 | onetwo | >< |
| 22:52.29 | Hati | super slow mode ? |
| 22:52.29 | exxor | onetwo, are you the guy from the tutorials on the onetwosc youtube channel? |
| 22:52.35 | onetwo | yeah |
| 22:53.28 | onetwo | whats up |
| 22:53.48 | exxor | onetwo, awesome, they helped me out a lot. I love it when you apologize for not doing everything ultra fast, but still way faster then I would go through the editor |
| 22:54.02 | onetwo | haha |
| 22:54.05 | onetwo | cause in one of my original ttutorials |
| 22:54.07 | onetwo | someone commented |
| 22:54.10 | onetwo | you are too slow |
| 22:54.13 | onetwo | so i took it to heart |
| 22:54.23 | onetwo | youtube always has random dumbasses i guess |
| 22:54.28 | Hati | i just would have increased replay-speed :P |
| 22:54.28 | onetwo | who make a snide comment |
| 22:54.30 | onetwo | then never come back |
| 22:54.41 | exxor | yeah, anyway, keep up the good work :) |
| 22:54.42 | onetwo | :D |
| 22:54.49 | onetwo | yes sir :) |
| 22:54.57 | Fatal510 | who wants to play what i have so far in my awesome map >_< |
| 22:54.58 | onetwo | i try to narrate |
| 22:55.00 | onetwo | more of what i do now |
| 22:55.03 | onetwo | so i dont click on stuff |
| 22:55.06 | onetwo | too quickly |
| 22:55.08 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 22:55.13 | onetwo | if you noticed in the hero tutorial |
| 22:56.39 | exxor | yeah, it really work well if you do exactly what you're saying, and I think you're doing a good job with it |
| 22:56.47 | exxor | works* |
| 22:56.55 | Ignorance | I'm kinda surprised there isn't like |
| 22:56.55 | Fatal510 | if i wanted to make a tower based on a unit would it be better to copy the unit and turn it into a structure or to copy a structure and turn it into the unit? |
| 22:56.59 | Ignorance | a big community project to make |
| 22:57.02 | Ignorance | enough heroes |
| 22:57.04 | Ignorance | for an AoS |
| 22:57.25 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:57.31 | Fatal510 | now you decide to come back... |
| 22:57.34 | Ignorance | since the game currently has no heroes |
| 22:57.35 | Fatal510 | when i dont need you |
| 22:57.40 | Ignorance | I'm only here when you don't need me. |
| 22:57.43 | Ignorance | I'm the genie of irony. |
| 22:57.44 | Hati | meh some realshit won machima :/ |
| 22:58.06 | onetwo | i dont think they gave enough time |
| 22:58.08 | onetwo | for better stuff maybe |
| 22:58.13 | onetwo | the other issue is only 1 week of editor |
| 22:58.15 | onetwo | for the contest |
| 22:58.16 | onetwo | was out |
| 22:58.21 | onetwo | so rest had to be ingame recordings |
| 22:58.23 | Hati | wel |
| 22:58.24 | Hati | l |
| 22:58.33 | Hati | the MULE thing was done without editor :P |
| 22:58.39 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:58.50 | Hati | but real-life machima is kinda weird |
| 22:59.17 | wOlfLinG | Ok, hows this for a map idea: Zerg infiltration. You play as a zerg changeling dort of thing, and have to infiltrate a terran base. You can 'Infest' units and take their shape. You have to get to the terran commander, infest him and the HQ, then destroy the base from the inside, and call down reinforcements. (2 players. 1 is zerg, the other terran, with maybe a protoss in there as well) |
| 22:59.38 | Ignorance | Sounds pathetic. |
| 22:59.39 | Hati | Prototype! |
| 22:59.44 | Fatal510 | ^ |
| 22:59.45 | Ignorance | Easy. Simple. Not competitive. |
| 23:00.19 | Hati | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype_%28video_game%29 |
| 23:00.21 | Ignorance | I don't play RPGs unless they're really, really good. |
| 23:00.23 | Hati | if you wonder what i ment |
| 23:00.29 | onetwo | i agree hati |
| 23:00.32 | onetwo | i dont know why they picked that |
| 23:00.34 | onetwo | maybe the effort? |
| 23:00.46 | Wihl | this "lost connection to gateway" thing, is there any way to get around it? |
| 23:00.50 | Wihl | what is causing it? |
| 23:00.55 | Twiner | is it me |
| 23:00.59 | Alpha_vst | it is |
| 23:01.07 | Twiner | or does it seem silly to let UMS maps propogate achievements |
| 23:01.16 | Tehwildcard | You know what sucked about prototype other than the bad voice actors, terrible story line, repetitive gameplay |
| 23:01.17 | wOlfLinG | Well, what about if its a single player campaign map? |
| 23:01.23 | Tehwildcard | The sound was low as fuck |
| 23:01.28 | Hati | onetwo: yea think too - it's kinda a good idea, but personal opinion says so not :x |
| 23:01.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:01.50 | Ignorance | w0lfLinG, you must understand. There's no way you'll ever come up with a map I'll even slightly enjoy. |
| 23:02.09 | Ignorance | You'd need to have a serious math background and/or literally hundreds of hours of free time. |
| 23:02.15 | Alpha_vst | your not nice ignorance |
| 23:02.20 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 23:02.20 | Tehwildcard | you're* |
| 23:02.22 | Ignorance | I'm really not. lol |
| 23:02.49 | Alpha_vst | thank you grammar Nazi man |
| 23:02.58 | Repo | 10sc2-serialization: 03Th3LaughingMan * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated serializeByte |
| 23:03.00 | Repo | Added unserializeByte, serializeAbilityCommand, unserializeAbilityCommand |
| 23:03.01 | Repo | Added PHP Include File - If included into a PHP file you can serialize / unserialize SC2 Variables. |
| 23:03.01 | Tehwildcard | np |
| 23:03.25 | Ignorance | I really hope that's the only bug left. |
| 23:03.27 | onetwo | Hey so does anyone have a solution to the following: I make an save/load RPG map with 40 hero levels... publish it. People join it but the guy hosting has already played and is level 30 and wants 30+ only. However he can't put that in the game title because lobbies dont have titles. So he holds up the join game system and everybody gets nowhere. So then I have to release a map for levels 1-10, 11-20, etc.. but now I have to syn |
| 23:03.29 | Ignorance | I'd be annoyed if there were more. |
| 23:03.30 | onetwo | what is the solution? |
| 23:03.34 | onetwo | Mod? |
| 23:03.52 | Ignorance | onetwo, separate maps. |
| 23:03.54 | Ignorance | yeah |
| 23:04.01 | Ignorance | mod |
| 23:04.01 | Tehwildcard | The only game Ignorance likes is Goldeneye... which gives me an idea for a map once they fix keyboard crap >.> |
| 23:04.05 | onetwo | but its such a hassle having 5 maps |
| 23:04.08 | onetwo | if i change one hero |
| 23:04.11 | onetwo | i have to load all 5 |
| 23:04.12 | onetwo | and do it |
| 23:04.13 | onetwo | no thx |
| 23:04.30 | Fatal510 | what do i gotta do to make splash damage not kill nearby friendlys |
| 23:04.33 | Ignorance | Tehwildcard, that's not true. I also enjoy the games I make. |
| 23:04.42 | Ignorance | But only because I can join games and brag about it. |
| 23:04.58 | Ignorance | Fatal510, filters. |
| 23:04.58 | Vulfe | Disliking everything. |
| 23:05.00 | Vulfe | I dislike it. |
| 23:05.00 | onetwo | what is a mod really? |
| 23:05.01 | Ignorance | It's all about the filters. |
| 23:05.03 | Fatal510 | kk |
| 23:05.05 | onetwo | its not something joinable on bnet |
| 23:05.11 | Tehwildcard | I only enjoy games that I win |
| 23:05.14 | TheLaughingMan | onetwo, can't you have seperate variants that they can choose from and it will display in the list? |
| 23:05.15 | Tehwildcard | So pretty much all of them |
| 23:05.16 | Fatal510 | something you can plug and play on your map |
| 23:05.25 | Ignorance | Tehwildcard, we should totally make life of a peasant. |
| 23:05.26 | onetwo | you can change Mode variant |
| 23:05.26 | Hati | onetwo: wait for blizzard to implement Side-titles |
| 23:05.31 | Tehwildcard | AGREED |
| 23:05.32 | onetwo | but currently it just says other |
| 23:05.40 | onetwo | BUT Hati |
| 23:05.45 | onetwo | and laughing man |
| 23:05.45 | TheLaughingMan | They got rid of it being able to show custom text? |
| 23:05.51 | onetwo | yeah for now |
| 23:05.52 | onetwo | but regardless |
| 23:05.55 | TheLaughingMan | Damn |
| 23:05.58 | Ignorance | But seriously, I'd like to remake THIEF when we get some more models. |
| 23:05.59 | onetwo | it will still be under same lobby game |
| 23:05.59 | onetwo | right? |
| 23:06.00 | Tehwildcard | but we must go back to the roots and have the bank bug that one player abuses and becomes super powerful and destroy everything |
| 23:06.03 | TheLaughingMan | That would be great in dota like games |
| 23:06.07 | Ignorance | THIEF was a really awesome game about stealing shit. |
| 23:06.08 | TheLaughingMan | I want to join only -apem games |
| 23:06.16 | Ignorance | God, APEM? |
| 23:06.20 | Helral | @onetwo: I just watched to EU-video winners. in my opinion the last movie was the best one.... |
| 23:06.23 | Ignorance | EM is for scrubs. |
| 23:06.28 | Tehwildcard | EM is for scrubs. |
| 23:06.33 | onetwo | k |
| 23:06.33 | wOlfLinG | My PC keeps crashing when i try to play thief :( |
| 23:06.34 | Fatal510 | ^ |
| 23:06.37 | TheLaughingMan | your for scrubs |
| 23:06.37 | onetwo | let me see again helral |
| 23:06.38 | wOlfLinG | or thief 2 |
| 23:06.41 | Hati | EM causes nerf-threads. |
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| 23:06.43 | Helral | you no play -ARSC? |
| 23:07.05 | Tehwildcard | I play apemwtfscom |
| 23:07.08 | Ignorance | Best way to play is all random drop items replace heroes |
| 23:08.16 | Vulfe | Better off not playing AoS in the first place. |
| 23:08.19 | Vulfe | In my opinion |
| 23:08.25 | onetwo | yeah Helral the last one demos blizzard the best |
| 23:08.29 | onetwo | maybe not narratively the best |
| 23:08.32 | onetwo | but commercialy it is |
| 23:08.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster cornelius (~4ce7a1cf@gateway/web/freenode/x-xyoszyfidvrxyqyt) |
| 23:08.37 | onetwo | i think their first choices were odd |
| 23:08.39 | cornelius | hey guys |
| 23:08.40 | cornelius | question |
| 23:08.41 | cornelius | what is |
| 23:08.42 | onetwo | and some runners up were unprofessional |
| 23:08.42 | Helral | yup |
| 23:08.42 | Ignorance | AoS was good up until DotA |
| 23:08.46 | onetwo | but some were really good |
| 23:08.52 | onetwo | tides of blood |
| 23:08.53 | cornelius | the easiest way to double the weapons of a unit? |
| 23:08.54 | Vulfe | AotZ was much more fun than DotA ever was |
| 23:08.57 | Ignorance | ToB was great. |
| 23:08.58 | Vulfe | but nobody played it |
| 23:08.59 | Helral | @onetwo, I wonder how many ppl send in a movie ;p |
| 23:09.00 | Ignorance | as was EotA |
| 23:09.02 | onetwo | trigger action add weapon |
| 23:09.08 | onetwo | no idea |
| 23:09.10 | onetwo | it was a short contest |
| 23:09.12 | cornelius | wut |
| 23:09.13 | onetwo | not hugely advertised |
| 23:09.21 | onetwo | Unit - add weapon |
| 23:09.23 | onetwo | under triggers |
| 23:09.24 | cornelius | onetwo wait |
| 23:09.25 | onetwo | actions |
| 23:09.30 | cornelius | i want it under data editor |
| 23:09.31 | cornelius | like |
| 23:09.35 | cornelius | i got the idea from that popular map Simple Tower Defense map |
| 23:09.35 | onetwo | oh |
| 23:09.41 | onetwo | Unit - Weapon |
| 23:09.44 | cornelius | theres a photon cannon that fires like 3 photon cannons in one |
| 23:09.45 | onetwo | add the other one on there |
| 23:09.47 | cornelius | know what i mean? |
| 23:09.50 | onetwo | when you double click |
| 23:09.52 | onetwo | oh |
| 23:09.54 | onetwo | no |
| 23:10.00 | onetwo | it fires the tower itself? |
| 23:10.02 | onetwo | 3 times? |
| 23:10.03 | cornelius | like |
| 23:10.07 | onetwo | or it shoots 3 times |
| 23:10.08 | onetwo | ?? |
| 23:10.08 | Wihl | Is noone else getting this "Lost connection to gateway" / Status: Failed error when trying to publish? |
| 23:10.10 | Ignorance | it has 3 weapons? I like it |
| 23:10.11 | cornelius | theres 1 photon cannon model |
| 23:10.15 | cornelius | and |
| 23:10.17 | Wihl | I have to try like 10 times each time i do an update |
| 23:10.18 | onetwo | okay |
| 23:10.22 | cornelius | say 3 zerglings are attacking it |
| 23:10.28 | cornelius | it fires 3 balls at once killing each |
| 23:10.32 | Vulfe | Lol. A photon cannon firing photon cannons. That would be awesome |
| 23:10.32 | onetwo | oh |
| 23:10.36 | P_R_Deltoid | god damn |
| 23:10.37 | P_R_Deltoid | the heat |
| 23:10.37 | onetwo | that would require some playing around |
| 23:10.38 | P_R_Deltoid | killing me |
| 23:10.39 | P_R_Deltoid | softly |
| 23:10.44 | onetwo | i believ search area |
| 23:10.47 | onetwo | or something |
| 23:10.47 | onetwo | effect |
| 23:10.49 | cornelius | theres no rly easy way to do it? |
| 23:10.50 | A1win | a photon cannon firing photon cannons that fire photon cannons that.. uhh |
| 23:10.56 | onetwo | im not good at data editor |
| 23:10.58 | onetwo | so for me no |
| 23:11.01 | cornelius | bleh |
| 23:11.10 | cornelius | like |
| 23:11.13 | cornelius | really what i want to do |
| 23:11.18 | Vulfe | Make interceptors that die really fast? |
| 23:11.19 | Vulfe | lol |
| 23:11.28 | cornelius | is jut make it so the mothership has both its default weapons as well as a void ray |
| 23:11.35 | cornelius | but i cant get more than one weapon to fire from it |
| 23:11.38 | Helral | maybe: Unit - Combat - Weapons - Turret |
| 23:11.54 | cornelius | ? under data editor? |
| 23:12.06 | Vulfe | If you want it to have three weapons, you can take the easy way out and make a trigger that creates dummy units |
| 23:12.09 | Vulfe | but I guess that would be cheating |
| 23:12.24 | cornelius | well what if its a moving unit tho |
| 23:12.24 | Helral | yah, Combat - Weapons - Turret or Combat - Weapons - Weapon |
| 23:12.25 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:12.35 | Vulfe | You could attach the created units |
| 23:12.37 | Vulfe | to it |
| 23:12.38 | Helral | didn't test it though. |
| 23:12.39 | Vulfe | Also. |
| 23:12.52 | cornelius | i cant find where combat is in the data editor |
| 23:12.53 | cornelius | o.0 |
| 23:13.03 | Helral | click the table button. |
| 23:13.06 | Helral | ;p |
| 23:13.21 | cornelius | o |
| 23:13.22 | cornelius | lol |
| 23:13.58 | Vulfe | One of the runner-ups for the US video contest is from Cana |
| 23:14.00 | cornelius | the default turret is free rotate |
| 23:14.00 | Vulfe | Canada* |
| 23:14.02 | cornelius | for mothership |
| 23:14.02 | Vulfe | I was lied to. |
| 23:14.12 | Helral | did ya find it? |
| 23:14.20 | cornelius | i found the section ur talking about yea |
| 23:14.26 | cornelius | but i cant get it to use more than 1 weapon |
| 23:14.37 | cornelius | i can substitute its default weapon for a void ray, but i cant get it to use both |
| 23:14.38 | Helral | which unit? |
| 23:14.42 | cornelius | mothership |
| 23:14.47 | cornelius | or any, im sure its the same for all |
| 23:15.06 | Razernok | :( |
| 23:15.07 | onetwo | can anyone explain to me how a mod works |
| 23:15.09 | onetwo | instead of a map |
| 23:15.18 | Razernok | is a sad panda |
| 23:15.26 | Sixen | Mod's are just Data |
| 23:15.28 | Sixen | Data packs |
| 23:15.43 | onetwo | okay so ill paste what i said above |
| 23:15.46 | cornelius | u looking at it Helral ? |
| 23:15.46 | onetwo | tell me if you think |
| 23:15.47 | onetwo | mod is a solution |
| 23:15.50 | Sixen | So, we have all the multiplayer units, etc, because we have the LibMulti mod. |
| 23:15.57 | Fatal510 | like a mod could be a hero pack |
| 23:15.58 | onetwo | "Hey so does anyone have a solution to the following: I make an save/load RPG map with 40 hero levels... publish it. People join it but the guy hosting has already played and is level 30 and wants 30+ only. However he can't put that in the game title because lobbies dont have titles. So he holds up the join game system and everybody gets nowhere. So then I have to release a map for levels 1-10, 11-20, etc.. but now I have to sy |
| 23:16.00 | Fatal510 | of units ore towers |
| 23:16.01 | onetwo | mod? |
| 23:16.21 | onetwo | therefore all of my RPG maps get the same units |
| 23:16.23 | onetwo | and triggers? |
| 23:16.26 | onetwo | i guess not triggers |
| 23:16.30 | Sixen | Just Data |
| 23:16.32 | Sixen | I believe.. |
| 23:16.34 | onetwo | darn |
| 23:16.34 | onetwo | hmm |
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| 23:16.39 | Sixen | What you *could* do... |
| 23:16.52 | Sixen | Is detect their Hero level at the beginning of the game and just link a bunch of maps together |
| 23:16.57 | Sixen | Map 1 == 1-10, Map 2 == 11-20 |
| 23:17.05 | Sixen | And then put them on the right map for their level |
| 23:17.07 | onetwo | thats fine |
| 23:17.10 | onetwo | but the issue is the lobby |
| 23:17.12 | redpand | hey guys, are the sc2 unit models available for public modifications? |
| 23:17.15 | onetwo | if people want to do boss runs |
| 23:17.17 | onetwo | they want all 30+ |
| 23:17.23 | onetwo | some noobs might want to play new game |
| 23:17.27 | onetwo | but currently no way of doing that |
| 23:17.30 | Sixen | Mhmm |
| 23:17.32 | onetwo | maybe outside of a custom game variant |
| 23:17.36 | Sixen | Just like we can't do, "DotA -apem" |
| 23:17.41 | onetwo | yeah |
| 23:17.42 | Sixen | because there's no lobby titles =/ |
| 23:17.46 | onetwo | :/ |
| 23:17.53 | onetwo | they better change it i guess |
| 23:18.01 | onetwo | i mean i could make a custom game variant for each bracket |
| 23:18.02 | onetwo | 1-10 |
| 23:18.03 | onetwo | 11-20 |
| 23:18.09 | redpand | I'm just wondering if we can export the models in the GE so that we can change them? |
| 23:18.15 | Razernok | Attributes people |
| 23:18.26 | onetwo | no not game attributes, players cant see that |
| 23:18.27 | onetwo | from the join game list |
| 23:18.30 | onetwo | only once theyre ingame |
| 23:18.33 | Razernok | yes they can |
| 23:18.51 | exxor | what does the create action in an actor event create? |
| 23:18.54 | onetwo | didnt work for Infection |
| 23:18.55 | Vulfe | And use all your publishing slots? : ( |
| 23:19.16 | onetwo | well then i can just make one map with game variant 1-10 |
| 23:19.20 | onetwo | then game variant 11-20 |
| 23:19.20 | onetwo | and so on |
| 23:19.21 | Alpha_vst | a;; publisjing slots for what |
| 23:19.26 | onetwo | but lets hope they get separate on popularlity list |
| 23:19.30 | onetwo | otherwise only one mode |
| 23:19.32 | onetwo | would be on there |
| 23:19.35 | Alpha_vst | they do |
| 23:19.39 | onetwo | cool |
| 23:19.52 | onetwo | then thats what ill have to do |
| 23:19.56 | onetwo | kind of subtle |
| 23:19.57 | onetwo | but oh well |
| 23:20.13 | Alpha_vst | yeah triggers can reference the mode of the game |
| 23:20.15 | Alpha_vst | so thats nice |
| 23:20.19 | onetwo | yeah |
| 23:20.24 | Stripe | the new custom game system sucks anyway |
| 23:20.29 | Alpha_vst | you can have one map with 50 diffrent play types |
| 23:20.34 | Alpha_vst | No it doesnt |
| 23:20.43 | Alpha_vst | people just dont know how it works yet |
| 23:20.43 | Stripe | as the nice map called "the message" already says" |
| 23:20.54 | ekcolnovkol | HARBL |
| 23:21.08 | Stripe | Alpha_vst dude srsly what is so good in the new system? |
| 23:21.17 | Alpha_vst | the custom game system is powerful |
| 23:21.46 | Stripe | so? but blizzard does not use the full potential |
| 23:22.07 | Stripe | a custom host defined describtion should be added |
| 23:22.16 | Helral | ok I got 2 guns on 1 ship working. |
| 23:22.24 | Alpha_vst | you dont get it |
| 23:22.40 | Vulfe | How did you do it, Helral? |
| 23:22.42 | Alpha_vst | you can set up a game and you dont need a title for your map all the info is there |
| 23:22.52 | Alpha_vst | and it gets rid of all the useless shit |
| 23:22.56 | onetwo | simple solution: popularity list that expands each map into a sublist of the lobbies, each one having a description, thus people can see -apem or levels 1-10 only |
| 23:22.56 | Alpha_vst | and seaching |
| 23:22.58 | Stripe | and how to solve onetwo's problem? |
| 23:22.59 | Helral | @cornelius: add the weapon as I said, then go in the data editor to the weapons you added and remove the linked cooldown |
| 23:22.59 | onetwo | done and done |
| 23:23.24 | Vulfe | Ahh |
| 23:23.26 | Vulfe | Coolio. |
| 23:23.27 | Helral | my mother ship is firing photon cannon weaponry as well. |
| 23:23.28 | Vulfe | Good job. |
| 23:23.37 | onetwo | and when someone makes a lobby, they can add a small descrip |
| 23:23.40 | onetwo | thatll go into the sublist |
| 23:23.42 | onetwo | for the map |
| 23:23.46 | Alpha_vst | you dont need it |
| 23:23.53 | Vulfe | Yes |
| 23:23.54 | Vulfe | You do |
| 23:23.55 | wOlfLinG | Well, time to start making an epic hero map :) |
| 23:23.55 | Vulfe | Sorry |
| 23:24.08 | Stripe | onetwo that is what I said |
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| 23:24.18 | onetwo | well Alpha, if my RPG with gamemode lvl 1-10 is very popular, but game mode 2-20 is at the bottom |
| 23:24.23 | Alpha_vst | i forget what the 2 sections are called thats basicly your lobby discripition |
| 23:24.25 | onetwo | but someone is level 19 and whats to play |
| 23:24.26 | onetwo | hes screwed |
| 23:24.29 | onetwo | category and mode |
| 23:24.40 | Alpha_vst | and they can be called anything |
| 23:25.07 | Stripe | dude srsly.... I wants to create ONE map ... one big RPG map |
| 23:25.14 | Stripe | with about 40 levels |
| 23:25.19 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:25.24 | onetwo | hero levels? |
| 23:25.27 | Alpha_vst | so yoru catagory could be yoru zone and the mode could be the level range |
| 23:25.27 | onetwo | or 40 maps |
| 23:25.31 | Stripe | levels |
| 23:25.31 | Alpha_vst | how is that so hard? |
| 23:25.32 | Stripe | :d |
| 23:25.38 | onetwo | well its not |
| 23:25.41 | Stripe | so he can set the description just ONCE for the map |
| 23:25.43 | onetwo | that can work |
| 23:25.46 | onetwo | but i like consolidation |
| 23:26.01 | Alpha_vst | isnt it? |
| 23:26.03 | Razernok | I really don't get why we weren't given a way to issue an order but what for player to select target |
| 23:26.10 | onetwo | cause if i have 10 zones and 2 modes for each |
| 23:26.11 | Stripe | so what if the map is played a lot? |
| 23:26.11 | Razernok | wait for*** |
| 23:26.12 | wOlfLinG | Hmm... Just wondering whether its possible to make multiple 'Server maps' for a MMORPG type game, where you join and you join a random map rather than being in a lobby. |
| 23:26.16 | onetwo | that means 20 lobbies |
| 23:26.18 | onetwo | on the list |
| 23:26.20 | onetwo | not gonna happen |
| 23:26.23 | onetwo | so some wont get played |
| 23:26.25 | onetwo | publicly lol |
| 23:26.29 | Stripe | there will be about 20 games and you have to connect / disconnect until you find a matching one? |
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| 23:26.56 | onetwo | i guess my issue is more with popularity atm |
| 23:26.59 | Alpha_vst | im sure they get split |
| 23:27.00 | onetwo | since we solved the category/mode thing |
| 23:27.04 | Alpha_vst | has anyone tested it? |
| 23:27.09 | onetwo | but i cant confirm splitting |
| 23:27.15 | onetwo | because your map is only uploaded once |
| 23:27.19 | Alpha_vst | so |
| 23:27.22 | onetwo | but ive seen 2 of the same map on popularity |
| 23:27.26 | onetwo | page 1 |
| 23:27.30 | Alpha_vst | but the list shows diffrent modes |
| 23:27.31 | onetwo | same version |
| 23:27.35 | onetwo | well it shold have |
| 23:27.37 | onetwo | but its buged to be other |
| 23:27.38 | onetwo | atm |
| 23:27.39 | onetwo | so cant confirm |
| 23:28.03 | Alpha_vst | im sure if its not working now it will be fixed |
| 23:28.07 | Stripe | in my opinion the system , as it is implemented now, sucks ... yes it has potential but currently it sucks |
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| 23:28.13 | onetwo | yeah of course |
| 23:28.16 | onetwo | alpha |
| 23:29.11 | Alpha_vst | you can have diffrent version of a map on the list so what cant you have diffrent modes and shit? :P |
| 23:29.35 | Vulfe | Why can't they just add a rating system |
| 23:29.43 | Vulfe | So DotA-roll isn't popular |
| 23:29.45 | Vulfe | and things like that |
| 23:29.47 | onetwo | rating would be nice |
| 23:29.51 | Alpha_vst | they should |
| 23:29.51 | wOlfLinG | When you select to join a map you should be able to choose what game mode etc you want to join |
| 23:29.51 | Stripe | oh yes |
| 23:29.51 | onetwo | after you play |
| 23:29.52 | onetwo | a game |
| 23:30.01 | onetwo | good idea wolfling |
| 23:30.09 | Stripe | yeah maybe in the score screen |
| 23:30.13 | onetwo | so then we donit have 8 of 1 map |
| 23:30.16 | onetwo | with 8 modes |
| 23:30.17 | onetwo | on the list |
| 23:30.21 | onetwo | if alpha is correct |
| 23:30.41 | wOlfLinG | So you could have say 20 modes of the RPG without it massing up the whole list |
| 23:30.43 | Alpha_vst | yeah im hoping im not right :P |
| 23:31.07 | Alpha_vst | selecting your mode would be the ideal thing |
| 23:31.08 | Stripe | :D |
| 23:31.39 | onetwo | hAHAHAH |
| 23:31.41 | onetwo | some guy |
| 23:31.43 | Alpha_vst | I have "add game modes" to my map on my list |
| 23:31.44 | onetwo | took it upon himself |
| 23:31.58 | onetwo | to blame blizzard again for siding with OP terran, by saying they chose only video entries with terran in it |
| 23:32.00 | onetwo | to win the contest |
| 23:32.01 | onetwo | hahahaha |
| 23:32.14 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 23:32.27 | wOlfLinG | Also, there should be a way to connect with a remote server so you can have about 50 players per map by sending the data between all computers. Could be dangerous though :( |
| 23:32.30 | Alpha_vst | like a boss was amazing |
| 23:32.35 | Alpha_vst | or toss |
| 23:32.37 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 23:32.48 | Nuknfuts | soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad to be done with the iphone and AT&T |
| 23:32.49 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKUB7NwmaiE |
| 23:32.53 | Nuknfuts | just picked upt he HTC EVO 4g |
| 23:32.55 | Alpha_vst | that should win |
| 23:33.00 | Nuknfuts | sick phone if anyone is looking for a new one |
| 23:33.16 | Alpha_vst | evo sucks |
| 23:33.37 | Nuknfuts | not really |
| 23:33.41 | Alpha_vst | just cause you have 4g |
| 23:33.54 | Razernok | :( |
| 23:34.04 | onetwo | haha like a toss |
| 23:34.07 | Alpha_vst | even though if you go to another country they have had 4g for years |
| 23:34.12 | Fatal510 | yay more problems |
| 23:34.26 | Nuknfuts | well thats america's fail |
| 23:34.29 | onetwo | i found that north america is so far behind in cellular |
| 23:34.35 | onetwo | i visited europe every year in my teens |
| 23:34.36 | onetwo | and like |
| 23:34.38 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 23:34.39 | onetwo | everyone had cells |
| 23:34.40 | Fatal510 | so true |
| 23:34.40 | Alpha_vst | we are |
| 23:34.40 | onetwo | little kids |
| 23:34.43 | onetwo | meanwhile we had nothing at home |
| 23:34.46 | onetwo | we had "home phones" |
| 23:34.50 | onetwo | wtf is going on |
| 23:34.51 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 23:35.03 | Alpha_vst | are cell phone system sucks |
| 23:35.13 | wOlfLinG | <- He's bored. Needs a map idea. His creativity sucks, but don't tell him I said that :D |
| 23:36.29 | Razernok | is sad |
| 23:37.10 | cornelius | how do i bind an ability to a key? |
| 23:37.12 | cornelius | as a macro |
| 23:37.20 | wOlfLinG | Create a button |
| 23:37.34 | wOlfLinG | And set the ability to that button |
| 23:37.35 | Alpha_vst | create that button |
| 23:37.46 | Alpha_vst | make that button have a hotkey |
| 23:38.00 | wOlfLinG | meh, ima gonna play League of legends |
| 23:38.04 | Nuknfuts | its cause our cell phone system's being held back by stupid bickering |
| 23:38.05 | Alpha_vst | ewwwww |
| 23:38.06 | cornelius | got it ty |
| 23:38.09 | Nuknfuts | asia had 3g before we even had 2g |
| 23:38.16 | Fatal510 | http://i.imgur.com/c6AUX.png |
| 23:38.18 | Fatal510 | mini tank :( |
| 23:38.18 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 23:38.23 | Alpha_vst | asia had 4g when we had 2g |
| 23:38.43 | Alpha_vst | fatal those suck :P |
| 23:39.09 | cornelius | how can i add an actor to a unit that doesnt have one? o.O |
| 23:39.29 | wOlfLinG | Actors > duplicate > change its unit |
| 23:40.41 | Nuknfuts | unitName |
| 23:40.43 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 23:40.50 | Alpha_vst | and nuknfuts is yes |
| 23:41.12 | cornelius | yo wolfling it didnt work i dont think |
| 23:41.13 | cornelius | lol |
| 23:41.35 | cornelius | o yea it did |
| 23:41.37 | cornelius | nvm |
| 23:41.38 | cornelius | >.< |
| 23:42.57 | Vulfe | I wish there was someone else on my "team" who knew how to work with triggers |
| 23:42.59 | Vulfe | This is such a grind. |
| 23:43.43 | Alpha_vst | what team? lol |
| 23:43.55 | Vulfe | "team" = basically me and my friends |
| 23:44.06 | Vulfe | I have a guy who does models and textures, a guy who wants to terrain edit, and an "ideas" guy |
| 23:44.07 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 23:44.10 | Vulfe | ideas guy... |
| 23:44.20 | Fatal510 | <-- ideas guy |
| 23:44.28 | Alpha_vst | IDEAS GUY!!!!!!! |
| 23:44.29 | Alpha_vst | LAME |
| 23:44.30 | Razernok | is sad |
| 23:44.38 | Fatal510 | ok |
| 23:44.40 | Fatal510 | i am the creative strategist |
| 23:44.41 | Fatal510 | :) |
| 23:44.45 | Vulfe | Lol. |
| 23:44.49 | Vulfe | That's a good euphemism |
| 23:45.00 | Alpha_vst | the guy with the ideas is the one who doesnt know how to do shit and wants everything done for him |
| 23:45.13 | Fatal510 | i am the one man army |
| 23:45.19 | Fatal510 | on the working on the best map ever |
| 23:45.28 | onetwo | im a waste disposal engineer |
| 23:45.31 | onetwo | jk jk |
| 23:45.35 | onetwo | but that is the best eupemism |
| 23:45.37 | onetwo | in the history of the planet |
| 23:45.44 | onetwo | for garbageman |
| 23:45.44 | Alpha_vst | IM working on the best map ever |
| 23:46.06 | Razernok | is sad. wish what he wants to do was possible. |
| 23:46.11 | Razernok | wishing* |
| 23:46.33 | Tehwildcard | Razer |
| 23:46.37 | Tehwildcard | I hate you... so much |
| 23:46.52 | Razernok | I love you too |
| 23:47.49 | Vulfe | How is it not possible |
| 23:47.49 | Alpha_vst | it is razernot |
| 23:47.51 | Vulfe | RAZOR |
| 23:48.28 | Hati | ~seen rrowland |
| 23:48.30 | purl | rrowland <~Ryan.W.Ro@pool-71-103-175-254.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 5h 12m 33s ago, saying: 'Cause right now is sleepy time'. |
| 23:49.27 | Hati | the dota map is leaking some product placement - 1frame every 100 frames of the video a small picture of a random product :x |
| 23:50.22 | onetwo | ? |
| 23:50.23 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:50.38 | onetwo | isnt that illegal |
| 23:50.43 | Alpha_vst | that was a dick move on his part :P |
| 23:50.47 | Tehwildcard | I wondered why I had an urge for crest toothpaste this morning |
| 23:50.58 | Fatal510 | who wants to check out my map on b.net ?! |
| 23:51.03 | Tehwildcard | PICK ME |
| 23:51.10 | Fatal510 | Picked! |
| 23:51.26 | Fatal510 | need more >_< |
| 23:51.28 | Hati | EU or US ? |
| 23:51.30 | Fatal510 | US |
| 23:51.57 | Verr82 | my leaderboards don't fit, how do I move one of them to the left side of the screen? |
| 23:52.37 | Alpha_vst | why do you have 2? |
| 23:52.50 | Tehwildcard | Thats going to take up a lot of screen space |
| 23:52.50 | Verr82 | dunno |
| 23:52.59 | Tehwildcard | The UI is already huge as hell |
| 23:53.13 | Verr82 | I'll just merge them. nevermind. |
| 23:53.38 | onetwo | k finally done uploading |
| 23:53.43 | onetwo | heres my video contest entry if you guys want to see |
| 23:53.44 | onetwo | :D |
| 23:53.45 | onetwo | http://www.wikiupload.com/Bd1cnIVJ |
| 23:54.04 | onetwo | basic tagline would be: "A place where protoss tests and examins its prisoners in trials" |
| 23:54.04 | Tehwildcard | video contest? |
| 23:54.18 | onetwo | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/contests/scvideo/video-winners-us.html |
| 23:54.21 | Tehwildcard | and wtf is with the crap host |
| 23:54.25 | onetwo | anyway, let me know what you think |
| 23:54.25 | Tehwildcard | wikiupload? |
| 23:54.26 | Tehwildcard | really? |
| 23:54.33 | onetwo | its only one i can use lately |
| 23:54.35 | onetwo | that doesnt crap out |
| 23:54.36 | onetwo | randomly |
| 23:54.45 | Tehwildcard | want me to upload it some where? |
| 23:54.49 | onetwo | not yet |
| 23:54.56 | onetwo | im just putting it here |
| 23:54.58 | onetwo | for now |
| 23:55.25 | Tehwildcard | That contest looks like its over >.> |
| 23:55.33 | onetwo | yeah |
| 23:55.39 | onetwo | i didnt win ;) |
| 23:55.43 | onetwo | i liked EU |
| 23:56.22 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 23:57.05 | MortalPlague | Anyone up for testing a 3v3 melee map? |
| 23:57.08 | cornelius | who was that in here a couple days ago saying u could forc eunit color in data editor? |
| 23:57.23 | Wihl | sigh |
| 23:57.26 | Wihl | why cant i publish |
| 23:57.35 | Tehwildcard | I liked it onetwo, just a little slow |
| 23:57.43 | onetwo | yeah i agree |
| 23:57.49 | onetwo | i was doing it for effect |
| 23:57.53 | onetwo | and i was taking a european cinema class at the time |
| 23:57.57 | onetwo | where they dont do hollywoodish things |
| 23:58.00 | onetwo | like quick cuts |
| 23:58.03 | MortalPlague | Wihl; what's the editor saying? |
| 23:58.05 | onetwo | so i had a bit of an influence |
| 23:58.07 | onetwo | at the time |
| 23:58.07 | onetwo | hahah |
| 23:58.09 | Alpha_vst | WHAT |
| 23:58.11 | Wihl | MortalPlague - lost connection to gateway |
| 23:58.13 | Alpha_vst | NO QUCK CUST |
| 23:58.17 | Alpha_vst | THATS LAME |
| 23:58.22 | onetwo | i watched a movie |
| 23:58.24 | MortalPlague | Have you got it pointed at battle.net? |
| 23:58.25 | Fatal510 | hmm.. need to make a new battlenet name |
| 23:58.29 | MortalPlague | You need to change something in the config |
| 23:58.30 | onetwo | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/ |
| 23:58.37 | onetwo | monical belluci from matrix, french guys wife |
| 23:58.42 | onetwo | gets raped for like 10 mins straight |
| 23:58.45 | onetwo | and we had to watch it in class |
| 23:58.48 | Tehwildcard | >.> |
| 23:58.49 | onetwo | pretty brutal |
| 23:58.52 | Tehwildcard | akwarrrrd |
| 23:58.54 | onetwo | monica* |
| 23:58.59 | Wihl | MortalPlague - I've managed to upload before but i always get failed like 20 times |
| 23:59.00 | onetwo | imagine in class.. |
| 23:59.11 | MortalPlague | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25026453020&sid=5000 |
| 23:59.22 | MortalPlague | Hmm |
| 23:59.24 | Razernok | is sad. wishing what he wants to do was possible. |
| 23:59.44 | MortalPlague | Ah well, I was hoping it'd be the simple fix |
| 23:59.45 | onetwo | tehwildcard where were you thinking of uploading it? |
| 23:59.46 | onetwo | whats good? |
