| 00:01.13 | heysparky | haha, and I type fast enough (or think slow enough) to merit the 'real time' conveyance of thought |
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| 00:01.22 | PointBlank | heyo |
| 00:01.47 | casperb | yoyo |
| 00:01.51 | PointBlank | any map editor fixes in patch 14 (besides the noted one) |
| 00:01.55 | Fatal5101 | i cant get the unit stock to work they way i need it to |
| 00:02.04 | Demo | Where in the data editor do you turn upgrades to be on automatically |
| 00:02.34 | casperb | for starting tech? |
| 00:02.41 | casperb | all triggers afaik |
| 00:02.45 | Demo | I want the marine to start with his shield |
| 00:02.50 | Demo | instead of upgrading to it |
| 00:02.56 | casperb | yeah trigger |
| 00:03.11 | heysparky | hmmm... could you take away the requirements for hte tech? |
| 00:03.20 | heysparky | do you want ALL marines to start with it? |
| 00:03.50 | Demo | yes |
| 00:04.17 | Demo | Requirement NameSourceRaceTech Type Learn Shield WallLiberty.SC2ModTerranAbility |
| 00:04.24 | Demo | Is the requirement |
| 00:05.00 | Demo | Type is count upgrade, state queued or better |
| 00:05.10 | Demo | I'm assuming I would change to something else |
| 00:06.39 | Coldfusionstorm | can you guys upload? |
| 00:06.45 | heysparky | It is very simple to do in triggers, is there a particular reason you want to go the data route? |
| 00:06.55 | casperb | Disable All Tech Requirements, Add Upgrade, Enable All Tech requirements |
| 00:07.50 | Demo | just want to know how |
| 00:07.52 | Demo | for later use |
| 00:08.54 | Coldfusionstorm | whenever i try to publish my map it erroes out |
| 00:08.54 | Coldfusionstorm | "defualt values are not valid"? |
| 00:09.00 | Demo | how many players are you trying to publish |
| 00:09.08 | Coldfusionstorm | oh. |
| 00:09.16 | Demo | Make sure you set max players |
| 00:09.21 | Demo | to the amount of players you have |
| 00:09.30 | Coldfusionstorm | i had forgotten that totally |
| 00:10.53 | Skizot | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/3/329/Terrain_056.jpg |
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| 00:11.37 | Coldfusionstorm | hmm |
| 00:11.43 | Coldfusionstorm | it dosnt like custom races |
| 00:11.45 | Coldfusionstorm | thats for sure |
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| 00:13.18 | PointBlank | I thought custom races weren't really that functional until the "retail" |
| 00:14.12 | TheLaughingMan | Does anyone know how to convert a text to a string |
| 00:14.41 | xttocs | ? |
| 00:15.29 | Coldfusionstorm | it is so FUN trying to get people to play your map! |
| 00:15.36 | casperb | yep call text to string |
| 00:15.58 | TheLaughingMan | there is no text to string |
| 00:16.29 | Coldfusionstorm | anybody want to try my map with me? :) |
| 00:16.38 | casperb | server? |
| 00:16.41 | Coldfusionstorm | EU |
| 00:16.49 | casperb | sure gimme a min |
| 00:16.52 | Coldfusionstorm | Cool |
| 00:17.34 | Fatal5101 | Alright i guess it cant be done..... |
| 00:18.32 | TheLaughingMan | Arg |
| 00:20.04 | Coldfusionstorm | casperb?, can you find the map? |
| 00:20.27 | FRoZeN | anyone have experience with UI? |
| 00:20.50 | onetwo | wow Skizot i missed your livestream |
| 00:20.52 | onetwo | i totally forgot |
| 00:20.53 | onetwo | damnit |
| 00:20.54 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:21.23 | casperb | What happend to the night lamp? :( |
| 00:22.21 | Coldfusionstorm | o,0? |
| 00:22.24 | Coldfusionstorm | night lamp? |
| 00:24.52 | casperb | Coldfusionstorm: anyways meant on bnet or local? |
| 00:25.08 | Skizot | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/2817-skizots-how-to-model-livestream/#p17 |
| 00:25.38 | Coldfusionstorm | casperb? |
| 00:25.41 | Coldfusionstorm | were you joining? |
| 00:25.56 | TheLaughingMan | Anyone know how to convert a Text object to a String |
| 00:26.37 | casperb | is text even a different type in script? |
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| 00:27.19 | TheLaughingMan | Text is a multi-line formated string |
| 00:27.48 | TheLaughingMan | All the formating is done through special tags like in html or xml |
| 00:27.57 | casperb | yeah but it's still a string? |
| 00:28.18 | TheLaughingMan | it's a string inside of an object |
| 00:29.08 | casperb | then get that string |
| 00:29.26 | FRoZeN | whats the difference between a modal and non-modal dialog? is it that it is "locked" so you cant click anything else? |
| 00:29.29 | TheLaughingMan | Which is why I am asking |
| 00:29.33 | casperb | yep |
| 00:29.52 | FRoZeN | and which one is which? |
| 00:29.52 | casperb | TheLaughingMan: Well, not sure but would assume that it can be casted implictly |
| 00:30.01 | casperb | FRoZeN: Modal is blocking |
| 00:30.06 | FRoZeN | k |
| 00:30.08 | FRoZeN | thx |
| 00:30.20 | TheLaughingMan | you can't cast in galaxy |
| 00:30.26 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/kerrigans-fall/. Kerrigan's Fall. Wunterwaffen (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 00:32.50 | Coldfusionstorm | Looks nice |
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| 00:36.25 | onetwo | Beider |
| 00:36.37 | onetwo | what codec/file format do you use for rendering videos |
| 00:36.58 | Coldfusionstorm | casperb?, you want to play? |
| 00:41.54 | TheLaughingMan | Grr |
| 00:42.10 | TheLaughingMan | !seen skizot |
| 00:42.15 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen skizot |
| 00:42.16 | purl | skizot is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 23h 39m 13s). Has said a total of 130 messages. Is idling for 17m 8s, last said: 'http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/2817-skizots-how-to-model-livestream/#p17'. |
| 00:42.26 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen sixen |
| 00:42.27 | purl | sixen <~Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 7h 32m 29s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 00:42.42 | Deuce | http://pastebin.com/B7E2kQDF |
| 00:42.57 | Deuce | i THINK this will track score properly under normal circumstances |
| 00:43.19 | Deuce | since blizzard in all their wisdom didnt see fit to allow direct access to the score tracker |
| 00:43.32 | Hati | It's a laughing man |
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| 00:43.48 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 00:43.54 | Deuce | THE |
| 00:43.55 | Demo | Is there a way to disable right click to move, without making the unit unable to move via triggers? |
| 00:43.56 | Deuce | laughing man |
| 00:44.09 | Hati | no he is just one out of many |
| 00:44.17 | casperb | Coldfusionstorm: ready |
| 00:44.27 | TheLaughingMan | Well I am not a poser like some of them |
| 00:45.13 | Skizot | what? |
| 00:45.21 | TheLaughingMan | I have been using this Alias since before GITS |
| 00:45.53 | TheLaughingMan | Skizot, do you know how to convert Text to String |
| 00:46.06 | rrowland | Can't |
| 00:46.15 | TheLaughingMan | There has to be a way |
| 00:46.22 | Skizot | there isn't a convert text to string func? |
| 00:46.27 | rrowland | Nope |
| 00:46.32 | TheLaughingMan | It converts it to a string to store it in a bank file |
| 00:47.22 | Fatal5101 | why the hell is there a red diamond on my trigger |
| 00:47.23 | Fatal5101 | icon |
| 00:47.29 | TheLaughingMan | There is an error |
| 00:47.33 | Deuce | FAIL |
| 00:47.34 | Fatal5101 | but there is no error |
| 00:47.37 | TheLaughingMan | There is one |
| 00:47.39 | Deuce | deuce missed a step |
| 00:47.40 | TheLaughingMan | trust me |
| 00:47.43 | Deuce | score increasing exponentially |
| 00:47.44 | Fatal5101 | no... trust me |
| 00:47.46 | Fatal5101 | there is not |
| 00:47.50 | Deuce | ABORT ABORT ABORT |
| 00:47.54 | rrowland | Sometimes it leaves that there after you fix an error |
| 00:47.57 | TheLaughingMan | Yes there is anerror |
| 00:48.03 | rrowland | Or puts one there after you use undo |
| 00:48.10 | Fatal5101 | i did undo a mass ammount of things |
| 00:48.13 | rrowland | You have to make a new if statement / loop |
| 00:48.17 | rrowland | And copy them all over |
| 00:48.24 | TheLaughingMan | I never said it was an error in your trigger, but there is an error |
| 00:48.35 | Fatal5101 | lol nice save for yourself |
| 00:48.48 | TheLaughingMan | Your the one jumping to conclusions |
| 00:49.03 | Fatal5101 | found a quick way to fix it |
| 00:49.06 | Fatal5101 | just copy and paste the trigger |
| 00:49.08 | Fatal5101 | delete the old one |
| 00:49.14 | Fatal5101 | no more red diamond |
| 00:49.26 | TheLaughingMan | If only blizzard would give us the native scripting! |
| 00:50.18 | Skizot | TheLaughingMan = martul??? |
| 00:50.25 | TheLaughingMan | Martul? |
| 00:50.25 | Fatal5101 | no |
| 00:50.25 | Skizot | readies the ban button. |
| 00:50.26 | Motive | Lol no |
| 00:50.27 | Motive | xD |
| 00:50.35 | Reactorex | Native scripting != MPQs :P |
| 00:50.46 | Reactorex | Native scripting is more important, IMO :P |
| 00:50.51 | TheLaughingMan | I am talking about.. |
| 00:50.55 | Reactorex | I need to stop using :P... |
| 00:51.31 | Hati | Skizot: no Martul only complains about stuff actually working |
| 00:51.58 | TheLaughingMan | GalaxyHeader.xtc |
| 00:52.03 | TheLaughingMan | and the secret files |
| 00:52.15 | TheLaughingMan | that blizzard uses to compile and make the trigger scripting work |
| 00:52.38 | TheLaughingMan | If we could get ahold of that even if it is a stripped one not revealing in super secret programing aspect of the game |
| 00:52.46 | TheLaughingMan | I would be happy |
| 00:53.08 | TheLaughingMan | It would make my Serialization work |
| 00:55.06 | Hati | Vote 4 SC2 Opensource. @TheLaughningMan |
| 00:55.10 | Hati | -n |
| 00:55.39 | TheLaughingMan | XD |
| 00:55.44 | Motive | Sorreh SC2M. I'm stealing "your" design 'cause I'm lazy. Lolol |
| 00:55.56 | Motive | Also incompetent. |
| 00:55.56 | TheLaughingMan | I just want the Galaxy Script Aspect |
| 00:56.41 | TheLaughingMan | My serialization has so many aspects |
| 00:56.48 | TheLaughingMan | And so many usages |
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| 00:57.37 | TheLaughingMan | However I am limited by what they will let me manipulate |
| 01:01.29 | RickA | Anybody have some sweet ideas for hero abilities? |
| 01:02.01 | Reactorex | TLM, know where the temporary map folders go when saving the map? |
| 01:02.21 | Reactorex | You could try to monitor and cache the files when they get made. |
| 01:02.56 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 01:03.23 | Reactorex | The headers, etc. |
| 01:03.27 | Reactorex | Header* |
| 01:03.44 | FRoZeN | the editor really need a UI tester |
| 01:03.54 | FRoZeN | its annoying to have to go ingame every time |
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| 01:04.31 | TheLaughingMan | I just need to monitor how text is used and how the bank saves text |
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| 01:08.04 | Leech | i need a 3rd party judgement for collision on my prototype map |
| 01:08.08 | Leech | aka very early stage of development |
| 01:08.23 | Leech | anyone interested? |
| 01:08.38 | RickA | Sorry, I only do after-party judgement. |
| 01:08.56 | Leech | all you have to do is watch it on my livestream.. lol |
| 01:09.02 | Leech | and just tell me if it seems reasonable |
| 01:11.36 | mosaicpao | Onetwo all my bug issue is fixed now thanks a lot! =D |
| 01:13.14 | Coldfusionstorm | there, fixed THAT embarrasing bug |
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| 01:15.06 | onetwo | np |
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| 01:15.41 | Sozer | helloo all u sexy map makers |
| 01:15.46 | Coldfusionstorm | Hello :D |
| 01:15.49 | Coldfusionstorm | casperb |
| 01:15.53 | Coldfusionstorm | dare try agien? ;D |
| 01:16.15 | Coldfusionstorm | Sozer you want to try my new map? :D |
| 01:16.20 | Sozer | yeah man sure |
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| 01:18.03 | Dustin | Oh Hai |
| 01:18.48 | AsaPhelps | I need help with a dirty trigger |
| 01:20.57 | AsaPhelps | I'm trying to make it so when an ability it used, a unit respawns |
| 01:22.07 | AsaPhelps | but I don't know how to make that happen in one trigger |
| 01:24.41 | Deuce | Event - Unit Uses Ability |
| 01:24.44 | Deuce | Action - Create Unit |
| 01:25.12 | AsaPhelps | But I want to respawn where it died |
| 01:25.40 | Deuce | when the unit dies (event - unit dies) |
| 01:25.54 | Deuce | store the location in a point variable |
| 01:26.45 | Deuce | if you plan for this to be available to multiple players you'll probably want an array for storing the locations |
| 01:27.36 | AsaPhelps | So just store it in globals and have another trigger for the ability being used? |
| 01:27.48 | Deuce | probably what I would do, yes |
| 01:28.00 | AsaPhelps | hmm I'll try it out thanks |
| 01:28.11 | AsaPhelps | was just wondering if it was possible to do in one trigger |
| 01:28.17 | Deuce | if this needs to be used by lots of units owned by more than one player you'll need a multiple-dimension array |
| 01:28.42 | AsaPhelps | well right now I have a bunch of units with linked health |
| 01:28.57 | AsaPhelps | so when one dies, they all die, and I have a trigger that respawns them after xx seconds |
| 01:29.06 | AsaPhelps | but I want to change it from a timer to a ability used |
| 01:29.51 | Deuce | I'm not sure if the game stores a unit's location of death beyond the death event |
| 01:30.10 | Deuce | if it does, you could use one trigger |
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| 01:30.41 | Deuce | also, if they all die... wont you have multiple locations? |
| 01:34.36 | Hati | anyone else here who had the problem "SC2 Localizer" freezed ? |
| 01:34.45 | Hati | just looking for someone to test it |
| 01:34.51 | AsaPhelps | Right now I have this Deuce |
| 01:34.53 | AsaPhelps | http://pastebin.com/hdKb6RxT |
| 01:35.16 | AsaPhelps | which works when all 30 or so units die, they all respawn fine |
| 01:35.21 | AsaPhelps | not sure why but I don't quesiton it |
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| 01:37.17 | Deuce | well, if it works it works :) |
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| 01:39.38 | AsaPhelps | but I want to change it from a timer to an ability, maybe I can set a variable that changes to 0 or something and triggers it |
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| 01:40.06 | Sylph_ | This probably sounds really stupid to you, but... |
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| 01:40.11 | Sylph_ | How do you open a SC2Map file? |
| 01:40.34 | Deuce | .... well yes that does sound pretty stupid :D |
| 01:40.44 | Deuce | in the galaxy editor: File - Open |
| 01:40.46 | Sylph_ | Haha yeah... |
| 01:40.51 | Sylph_ | Okay |
| 01:40.53 | Sylph_ | Thanks! |
| 01:41.05 | Deuce | the same way you open any file in any program ever.... o.O |
| 01:41.12 | AsaPhelps | lawl my trigger just made all the units spawn at one spot instead of where they each died, oh well :/ |
| 01:41.36 | Deuce | like I said, multiple units will probably require an array to store the location for each |
| 01:41.48 | Sylph_ | I tried to open it by creating a new game in SC2 |
| 01:41.50 | Sylph_ | xD |
| 01:42.02 | Deuce | heh |
| 01:42.11 | Deuce | thats how you play the game! |
| 01:42.25 | Sylph_ | Yeah... xD |
| 01:42.37 | Sylph_ | But it's technically a "map" so that's what I thought... :/ |
| 01:43.18 | AsaPhelps | I wonder why the trigger I pastebin'ed doesn't take an array |
| 01:43.32 | Deuce | whatcha mean "doesnt take?" |
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| 01:45.15 | Reactorex | Sylph, you can also open it in an MPQ editor. |
| 01:45.49 | Reactorex | ... fail. |
| 01:45.53 | Reactorex | I didn't look at the join/leave. xD |
| 01:46.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Do multiple Conditions function as Ors? |
| 01:46.25 | Deuce | what's a "shared" ability.... |
| 01:46.30 | P_R_Deltoid | Or Ands. |
| 01:46.35 | P_R_Deltoid | DO they all need to be true, or just one |
| 01:46.36 | Deuce | ands |
| 01:46.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Crap, how do I make it so it's ors? |
| 01:46.51 | Deuce | use Or |
| 01:46.52 | Deuce | :D |
| 01:47.16 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh, it creates a meta condition |
| 01:47.18 | P_R_Deltoid | I see, I see |
| 01:47.26 | P_R_Deltoid | Easy peasy. |
| 01:49.54 | Deuce | Ping is the minimap ping right? |
| 01:49.56 | Deuce | *ding* |
| 01:50.02 | Deuce | flashes on the spot |
| 01:50.32 | Nuknfuts | is there a way to extract the modded data in a data editor in a sc2map? |
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| 01:52.23 | Vortexx | i'm doing a 3ps camera and whenever I go near a cliff, instead of clipping the camera sets to the height of the cliff, how can i fix this? |
| 01:53.56 | Cloudwolf | any one know hwo to get control over the cliff hieghts cus for some reason i cnat place untis at the bottom of a cliff :P |
| 01:55.14 | Coldfusionstorm | CasperD? |
| 01:55.23 | Coldfusionstorm | im ready for another round |
| 01:55.52 | Coldfusionstorm | CasperB |
| 01:55.52 | Coldfusionstorm | :D |
| 01:56.27 | Coldfusionstorm | Anybody want to play my map with me? ;D |
| 01:56.38 | Coldfusionstorm | EU servefr |
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| 01:57.53 | P_R_Deltoid | aww |
| 01:57.55 | P_R_Deltoid | guess not then! |
| 01:58.05 | Coldfusionstorm | awww gawd |
| 01:58.12 | Coldfusionstorm | why does blizzard fail so hard |
| 01:58.12 | P_R_Deltoid | I know :( |
| 01:58.16 | P_R_Deltoid | Stupid localization |
| 01:58.18 | P_R_Deltoid | hate it so much |
| 01:58.29 | Fatal5101 | where are the maps located that i download when i play them online |
| 01:58.46 | Coldfusionstorm | you are the third player i cant play with |
| 01:58.53 | Coldfusionstorm | becaues you are US and im EU |
| 01:58.54 | Coldfusionstorm | :/ |
| 01:59.57 | P_R_Deltoid | Does anyone have an easy example of a dialog with two options and a title? I can't for the life of me figure out how to format this shit |
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| 02:00.34 | Sixen1 | hm |
| 02:00.35 | Deuce | i have to pick a model for a minimap ping?? |
| 02:00.47 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 02:01.37 | rrowland | Currently in Queue... |
| 02:01.40 | rrowland | Position: 3305 |
| 02:01.44 | rrowland | Estimated time: 44 minutes |
| 02:01.46 | Coldfusionstorm | in que? |
| 02:01.47 | Coldfusionstorm | were? |
| 02:01.55 | Deuce | thats quite a turnover |
| 02:01.56 | rrowland | http://us.blizzard.com/store/cashier-line.xml |
| 02:02.03 | rrowland | blizzcon tickets |
| 02:02.27 | AsaPhelps | You going to dress up as a reaper rrowland? |
| 02:02.34 | rrowland | Totally |
| 02:02.39 | P_R_Deltoid | For the border of a dialog, how big is the offset needed so that it's 10px from the inside of hte metal border thing? |
| 02:02.45 | P_R_Deltoid | because I hav ea feeling the anchor is on the outside |
| 02:02.52 | AsaPhelps | I want to see someone dress up as a medic from starcraft |
| 02:02.58 | AsaPhelps | Preferably a female |
| 02:03.03 | Coldfusionstorm | xd |
| 02:03.25 | AsaPhelps | I'd dress up as a baneling |
| 02:03.31 | AsaPhelps | Then explode. |
| 02:03.43 | AsaPhelps | Actually thats probably not good to say |
| 02:04.15 | AsaPhelps | Is blizz announcing their new ip at blizzcon? |
| 02:04.51 | Vortexx | what?!?! |
| 02:04.59 | AsaPhelps | What?! |
| 02:05.17 | Coldfusionstorm | not that i find killing people funny |
| 02:05.21 | Coldfusionstorm | but oh the irony |
| 02:05.44 | Vortexx | camera. |
| 02:05.48 | Vortexx | cliff |
| 02:05.49 | AsaPhelps | why are so many people making their maps names in colors now, I should've copyright that |
| 02:05.55 | Vortexx | hides units |
| 02:05.56 | Coldfusionstorm | lol |
| 02:09.10 | Cloudwolf | lol asa if they included thea bility in the editor for oclored names XD then you have no control over it |
| 02:09.16 | Cloudwolf | also that happend kind of in wc3 too |
| 02:13.27 | Cloudwolf | hmmm i can only create units at points? O.o |
| 02:13.28 | AsaPhelps | Does anyone else not join the map "Choose your defence" and just go back to the game list? |
| 02:14.05 | Cloudwolf | why can't one create untis at regions any more D: |
| 02:14.07 | xttocs | Aaah |
| 02:14.08 | xttocs | I found a bug! |
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| 02:16.44 | P_R_Deltoid | hmmm |
| 02:16.58 | P_R_Deltoid | fulllscreen is very misleading, for it does not actally make it fullscreen |
| 02:17.12 | P_R_Deltoid | or the default dialog box has a crazy big transparency around it |
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| 02:20.15 | Vortexx | anyone tried Camera - Turn camera height displacement Off for player 1? |
| 02:20.16 | xytor | hi |
| 02:20.25 | xytor | yes, what about it? |
| 02:20.34 | Vortexx | what is it for? |
| 02:20.39 | Cloudwolf | how do i make an action work on all players? |
| 02:20.47 | xytor | you know how when a unit goes up a ramp, the camera also goes up? |
| 02:20.49 | xytor | that |
| 02:21.10 | xytor | i mean, the camera follows the height of the map somewhat |
| 02:21.24 | Vortexx | it goes up on cliffs when i am close to one |
| 02:21.33 | xytor | yea |
| 02:21.34 | Vortexx | i want to stop that but that trigger didn't work |
| 02:22.05 | xytor | hmm weird |
| 02:22.31 | xytor | cloudwolf, you have to do a loop |
| 02:22.39 | xytor | do For all players in player group |
| 02:22.48 | Cloudwolf | that sucks |
| 02:22.52 | xytor | no, it doesn |
| 02:23.03 | xytor | it's a good thing :) |
| 02:23.19 | xytor | is coolioflip from the forums here? |
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| 02:24.14 | rrowland | Thank you for placing an order with the Blizzard Store! |
| 02:24.36 | xytor | Vortexx, are you sure the other parts of your trigger work? |
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| 02:24.50 | Vortexx | ya |
| 02:25.06 | Vortexx | i'm not sure that's exactly what I want tho |
| 02:25.12 | xytor | what do you want? |
| 02:26.40 | Vortexx | well, i got a 3p camera |
| 02:26.46 | Vortexx | and a narrow corridor |
| 02:27.05 | Vortexx | when i go through the camera rises to the cliff level so my units go out of frame |
| 02:27.46 | xytor | you are setting your camera to follow your units, correct? |
| 02:27.59 | Vortexx | what would correct be? |
| 02:28.09 | Vortexx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:28.29 | xytor | i was just asking if you are doing that |
| 02:28.45 | Vortexx | :) |
| 02:29.09 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/battlefield/. Battlefield. Taogepacs (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 02:29.10 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/new-syndicate-episode-1-fortress/. The New Syndicate Episode 1: The Fortress. LordCrusare (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 02:29.12 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/farmers-vs-hunters/. Farmers vs. Hunters. wondahbread (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 02:29.56 | xytor | yes, that's correct |
| 02:30.25 | xytor | you might wanna play around with Lock camera input for player |
| 02:30.55 | xytor | also |
| 02:31.01 | xytor | set your zoom to what you want |
| 02:31.08 | xytor | before locking camera input |
| 02:31.34 | Vortexx | not the lock, i'll try zoom |
| 02:31.47 | xytor | if you do not lock, the camera will move around |
| 02:32.06 | Vortexx | i mean, it's not the lock, i have that set |
| 02:32.25 | xytor | ok, did you also turn mouse relative mode off? |
| 02:32.28 | Vortexx | no zoom, only distance and I'm already setting that |
| 02:32.42 | Vortexx | yes on camera rotate, I don't have wasd move |
| 02:32.57 | xytor | ok |
| 02:33.20 | xytor | but if you have the input locked and the camera zoomed, it should stay steady while following the character |
| 02:33.28 | Vortexx | : / |
| 02:33.39 | Vortexx | it does but not near a cliff |
| 02:35.32 | P_R_Deltoid | Is there any way to force Spacebar not to work how it does ingame? |
| 02:35.35 | P_R_Deltoid | Is that like a data editor thin g? |
| 02:35.39 | P_R_Deltoid | I want to use it for a different purpose |
| 02:36.01 | xytor | Vortexx, could be the location of the triggers |
| 02:36.44 | xytor | maybe one trigger is nullifying the height displacement? |
| 02:36.47 | xytor | try putting that first |
| 02:36.56 | Vortexx | k |
| 02:37.13 | Vortexx | wait, it was |
| 02:37.26 | Vortexx | tried it on a timer even |
| 02:37.34 | xytor | it was what? |
| 02:37.41 | Vortexx | first in the trigger |
| 02:37.59 | Vortexx | on an ini, a run and a timer |
| 02:38.29 | xytor | ok hold on |
| 02:38.40 | Cloudwolf | how would one go about setting the cameras max zoomed out distance? |
| 02:38.55 | Coldfusionstorm | gah |
| 02:38.56 | onetwo | data editor |
| 02:38.58 | onetwo | default game camera |
| 02:39.00 | onetwo | or default camera i mean |
| 02:39.07 | onetwo | theres a field near the top |
| 02:39.08 | onetwo | exactly what you want |
| 02:39.08 | Coldfusionstorm | I have probes on top of allmost every unit in the game |
| 02:39.09 | Coldfusionstorm | :/ |
| 02:39.18 | Coldfusionstorm | how the hell do i fix that |
| 02:39.58 | Cloudwolf | default game cameras max is a value between 0.001 and 350 |
| 02:40.05 | Cloudwolf | would a smaller number = a further zoomed out? |
| 02:40.08 | onetwo | no |
| 02:40.17 | onetwo | i think like 40-50 |
| 02:40.18 | onetwo | is default |
| 02:40.19 | onetwo | i forget |
| 02:40.23 | onetwo | you can check Zoom levels at the bottom |
| 02:40.31 | onetwo | the one with biggest distance |
| 02:40.36 | onetwo | is the default distance |
| 02:40.40 | onetwo | so you can use that as a relative point |
| 02:40.42 | onetwo | afk |
| 02:42.15 | Cloudwolf | ty onetwo |
| 02:43.42 | P_R_Deltoid | phew |
| 02:44.34 | P_R_Deltoid | I think I screwed up the lighting |
| 02:44.35 | P_R_Deltoid | woops |
| 02:45.02 | Coldfusionstorm | Could somebody help me |
| 02:45.07 | P_R_Deltoid | what is a gritty light type |
| 02:45.11 | P_R_Deltoid | what world has the grittiest light |
| 02:45.12 | P_R_Deltoid | char |
| 02:45.12 | Coldfusionstorm | i have a exstra "unit" on top on every other unit |
| 02:45.13 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 02:45.21 | Coldfusionstorm | like a doubble unit in one unit |
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| 02:47.03 | P_R_Deltoid | Uh |
| 02:47.10 | P_R_Deltoid | I dont understand the problem? |
| 02:47.16 | P_R_Deltoid | You hav eit, but you don't want it? |
| 02:47.26 | P_R_Deltoid | Seems like a hard thing to do accidently. |
| 02:48.10 | Coldfusionstorm | in all the units i have place |
| 02:48.26 | Coldfusionstorm | a exstra act/units apears on top of the unit |
| 02:48.29 | Coldfusionstorm | as if it were the unit |
| 02:49.05 | xytor | Vortexx, i see what you mean.. it doesnt work |
| 02:49.39 | xytor | did u try height smoothing? |
| 02:50.55 | RickA | Anybody want to help me brainstorm some hero abilities? |
| 02:51.02 | P_R_Deltoid | I can try |
| 02:51.03 | P_R_Deltoid | :p |
| 02:51.06 | P_R_Deltoid | What kind of map is it |
| 02:51.09 | RickA | RPG |
| 02:51.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Scifi, I assume? |
| 02:51.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Considering there ain't many other models :p |
| 02:51.19 | RickA | Not really |
| 02:51.20 | Vortexx | have not |
| 02:51.29 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh? What kind of RPG, then. |
| 02:51.32 | RickA | I just shoehorned models into certain roles |
| 02:51.36 | RickA | It really hasn't taken a theme yet |
| 02:51.39 | RickA | I've just made abilities |
| 02:51.50 | RickA | It ranges right now from classic fantasy to lovecraftian. |
| 02:51.56 | P_R_Deltoid | So you want to brainstorm abilities fo ra game with no theme? Do you have acharacter themes yet? |
| 02:52.15 | RickA | I'm making random abilities hoping they'll lead me to think of other synergistic skills |
| 02:52.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Confusing. |
| 02:52.31 | P_R_Deltoid | It's an ORPG? |
| 02:52.34 | P_R_Deltoid | Singleplayer? |
| 02:52.36 | AsaPhelps | how about an ability that |
| 02:52.39 | AsaPhelps | does damage |
| 02:52.41 | Demo | Is there a way to make it so right clicking does not move your character, without removing move from the character? |
| 02:52.41 | RickA | Multiplayer, non orpg |
| 02:52.50 | P_R_Deltoid | So it's story driven? |
| 02:52.59 | RickA | There's no story yet >.> |
| 02:53.10 | P_R_Deltoid | But that is the plan? Make it semi-linear? |
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| 02:53.16 | RickA | Yes |
| 02:53.26 | RickA | The only thing I have so far |
| 02:53.32 | RickA | Is that the map will be split into two areas |
| 02:53.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Perhaps working on hero abilities should be saved for later? |
| 02:53.45 | RickA | One will be your classic "Run around and kill stuff for exp" area |
| 02:53.47 | P_R_Deltoid | After a story and theme have materialized. |
| 02:53.54 | RickA | The other will be two AI battling it out and you have to help. |
| 02:54.01 | RickA | No, story is boring. Abilities are fun. |
| 02:54.09 | RickA | I feel I shouldn't progress until I have heros that are fun to play. |
| 02:54.28 | P_R_Deltoid | Get the boring stuff out of the way first. Increases your chances of wanting to finish what you started down the road. |
| 02:54.29 | Demo | RickA sounds like what I'm doing |
| 02:54.31 | RickA | I'd say I care about 1/4 of the story in any given RPG |
| 02:54.38 | AsaPhelps | there was a map where zealots had knockback, anyone remember what it was? I think it was kinda tutorialish |
| 02:55.05 | RickA | So, are you going to help me brainstorm or just criticize me |
| 02:55.07 | P_R_Deltoid | But helping create those ideas to make the abilities work with the game and not be weird and disjointed is important. The way you do that is create a theme and you create theme through story. |
| 02:55.11 | P_R_Deltoid | Or vice versa |
| 02:55.20 | RickA | I can give you a list of abilities I have so far if it'll help give you ideas. |
| 02:55.24 | P_R_Deltoid | Dude, you can't just say "Come up with abilities" |
| 02:55.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Okay |
| 02:55.31 | P_R_Deltoid | Hmm |
| 02:55.31 | Demo | Aids |
| 02:55.36 | Demo | Aids is an ability |
| 02:55.42 | P_R_Deltoid | The ability to vomit acid. |
| 02:55.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Does this fit your theme? |
| 02:55.51 | RickA | Yes |
| 02:55.53 | P_R_Deltoid | You have no idea, have fun with your main fantasy character spitting acid? |
| 02:56.12 | RickA | It can spit acid all it wants as long as it fits the theme. |
| 02:56.12 | P_R_Deltoid | Just steal spells from WC3. |
| 02:56.17 | RickA | No tnx. |
| 02:56.31 | AsaPhelps | Steal spells from diablo |
| 02:56.33 | P_R_Deltoid | Yes, but if you figure out later that the theme in which that fits is not the one you are using, you have wasted time creating a worthless ability. |
| 02:56.35 | RickA | >.> |
| 02:56.39 | P_R_Deltoid | Steal spells from games with wizards |
| 02:56.43 | P_R_Deltoid | I hear wizards cast spells. |
| 02:56.55 | Demo | Well here's the main question RickA do you have the battle system done? |
| 02:57.07 | Demo | Where you can just add abilities |
| 02:57.13 | RickA | Its going to be a lot like SC1 rpgs |
| 02:57.22 | RickA | Well more like WC3 rpgs I guess |
| 02:57.24 | Demo | So you do not have a battle system done |
| 02:57.35 | RickA | I don't want a battle system other than what SC2 comes with. |
| 02:57.45 | heysparky | what about a mimic abilitiy |
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| 02:58.01 | heysparky | a unit sees an ability (or has it happen in range) and can use it |
| 02:58.05 | heysparky | once |
| 02:58.07 | wyclefjean | hey guys |
| 02:58.10 | heysparky | or for a little while |
| 02:58.14 | RickA | My niche in this for a "battle system" is I want to create mobs who use skills synergistically to defeat you. |
| 02:58.15 | Demo | I know I wouldn't play a game that has just abilities is what I'm getting at |
| 02:58.28 | RickA | I have to start somewhere |
| 02:58.31 | Cloudwolf | am i the only one who dislikes the new trigger editor? ... |
| 02:58.42 | wyclefjean | i'm retarded, i'd like to get that out on the table - i was just wondering how my friend and i can play this custom map we downloaded off the internet. we don't see it in our list, and when i use that LazyLauncher it doesn't give me a multiplayer option |
| 02:58.45 | Demo | Start with the gameplay itself, then add abilities when it matters |
| 02:58.55 | RickA | I didn't say "Can you critique my lack of planning so far". I said does anybody want to help me brainstorm. |
| 02:59.20 | AsaPhelps | wyclef you can publish it if its not in the list and then invite him to play |
| 02:59.32 | RickA | They clearly don't have keys |
| 02:59.34 | wyclefjean | mind helping me out with how to publish it |
| 02:59.44 | AsaPhelps | do you have a beta key? |
| 02:59.46 | wyclefjean | yea |
| 02:59.52 | RickA | Then why are you using the launcher? |
| 02:59.52 | Demo | Anyways, does anyone know how to make it so you cannot move by right clicking? |
| 02:59.54 | AsaPhelps | can you open the map in the editor? |
| 02:59.59 | RickA | Demo, yes. |
| 03:00.00 | wyclefjean | yeah i have it open in the editor rightnow |
| 03:00.18 | wyclefjean | i don't know, ricka :[ |
| 03:00.30 | AsaPhelps | RickA what about, an ability that shoots zerglings in 360 directions |
| 03:00.34 | wyclefjean | i was googling how to play custom maps in sc2 and i got linked to that so i tried it out, figured it was relevant. |
| 03:00.36 | AsaPhelps | or banelings |
| 03:00.39 | AsaPhelps | banelings is even better |
| 03:00.55 | wyclefjean | oh - i see the publish button |
| 03:00.59 | RickA | I have an ability that launches flamethrowers in 2 to 6 directions |
| 03:01.00 | wyclefjean | STANDBY FRIENDS, I COULD HAVE FIGURED IT OUT |
| 03:01.05 | AsaPhelps | if you publish it it'll probably upset the creator |
| 03:01.10 | AsaPhelps | but its beta so |
| 03:01.11 | P_R_Deltoid | RickA, they were purely questions to help assess what would be a good ability for the game... |
| 03:01.13 | RickA | 360 banelings could be a bit much for one ability |
| 03:01.15 | P_R_Deltoid | No need to get so defensive. |
| 03:01.22 | AsaPhelps | what about a 180 spread |
| 03:01.29 | Demo | Found it. |
| 03:01.30 | RickA | I'll decide if its a good ability |
| 03:01.33 | RickA | I just want to hear ideas |
| 03:01.38 | AsaPhelps | A missile that knocks someone back |
| 03:01.49 | heysparky | I think the mimic ability is cool :) |
| 03:01.50 | AsaPhelps | then explodes into zerglings |
| 03:01.59 | P_R_Deltoid | I find it easier to brainstorm with a semi-goal in mind. |
| 03:02.06 | RickA | Why not have the missile not knock them back |
| 03:02.08 | heysparky | haha, a Zergling MIRV |
| 03:02.11 | RickA | and explode into banelings |
| 03:02.30 | AsaPhelps | then the banelings would explode |
| 03:02.59 | RickA | I'm trying to make a unit that launches a baneling every time a unit dies in an area around it, but it has some setbacks |
| 03:03.25 | Deuce | Baneling cluster bombs |
| 03:03.56 | AsaPhelps | What about a baneling that explodes |
| 03:04.00 | AsaPhelps | and spawns smaller banelings |
| 03:04.08 | Deuce | scaled-up viking that flies by dropping banelings |
| 03:04.16 | RickA | Why not just make a nuclear baneling and call it quits? |
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| 03:04.39 | RickA | A nuclear baneling with hardened shields so that it can survive its own blast and die again |
| 03:04.40 | Cloudwolf | ok i feel like a moron but how would i set up a conditional that player x has 0 units of any type? |
| 03:05.01 | RickA | make a unit group out of all its units and check if its a dead unit group |
| 03:05.25 | AsaPhelps | I should make a roach that spits banelings |
| 03:05.30 | RickA | So does anybody have ideas for an RPG style ability rather than a baneling-themed ability/ |
| 03:05.51 | Deuce | RPB |
| 03:05.55 | Deuce | rocket propelled baneling |
| 03:06.20 | Coldfusionstorm | Woul be awesome |
| 03:06.26 | Deuce | make it scream while in-flight |
| 03:06.34 | Deuce | ....aaaaAAAAAAAABOOM |
| 03:06.50 | AsaPhelps | how about an ability that |
| 03:06.57 | AsaPhelps | restores health at the cost of energy |
| 03:07.16 | AsaPhelps | okay serious time |
| 03:07.16 | Deuce | and another that restores energy at the cost of health! |
| 03:07.18 | RickA | I was trying to make an ability that restored health automatically anytime you used energy |
| 03:07.22 | AsaPhelps | what about an ability that sets a unit on fire |
| 03:07.29 | AsaPhelps | and if it touches a unit it too bursts into flame |
| 03:07.33 | Cloudwolf | anti gravity shot hits a unit for X dmg and suspends them in a state of -yg for z seconds after z seconds have expired unit falls to the ground taking dmg based on how high the unit was up? |
| 03:07.33 | RickA | Units can't be set on fire. |
| 03:07.42 | AsaPhelps | then make an ability that sets units on fire? |
| 03:07.48 | Deuce | actualyl I thought about a "plague" ability that would behave like that |
| 03:08.02 | Deuce | sets an invisible, but randomized death timer |
| 03:08.07 | RickA | I can't set anything on fire |
| 03:08.08 | AsaPhelps | what about a plague ability that gives the plague to nearby units |
| 03:08.13 | Deuce | can spread to other biological units |
| 03:08.14 | RickA | I can do that |
| 03:08.17 | AsaPhelps | why can't you have fire? |
| 03:08.28 | RickA | I don't know any actors that burn units |
| 03:08.41 | Deuce | you could probably attach some sort of explosion or something that kinda looks like fire |
| 03:08.42 | Cloudwolf | Ok any way how would i go about getting the total # of units a player owns so that i can do a conditional based on that? |
| 03:08.45 | AsaPhelps | I use large terran building fire for a fire effect |
| 03:08.54 | RickA | Cloud did you not listen to me? |
| 03:08.59 | RickA | I told you how to do that. |
| 03:09.13 | AsaPhelps | what about an ability that pulls units towards it and it takes damage if its too close or based on how close it is |
| 03:09.18 | AsaPhelps | like a static...cloud |
| 03:09.21 | AsaPhelps | static cling |
| 03:09.29 | Cloudwolf | oh sorry read it |
| 03:09.32 | Cloudwolf | i was kinda uh spaced out |
| 03:09.57 | RickA | That's pretty good |
| 03:10.22 | AsaPhelps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQldviaDw6E |
| 03:10.25 | RickA | I think I'll one-up you |
| 03:10.27 | AsaPhelps | look at around 35 seconds Rick |
| 03:10.55 | AsaPhelps | An ability that pushes units away, and heals them the farther away they are |
| 03:11.03 | AsaPhelps | Reverse static cling |
| 03:11.26 | AsaPhelps | But Static Cling (c) |
| 03:11.29 | AsaPhelps | *Writes that down* |
| 03:11.44 | RickA | Cool, what actor does that guy use? |
| 03:12.17 | Deuce | apparently lava |
| 03:12.19 | RickA | Oh, that's you |
| 03:12.28 | RickA | Oh, large terran building fire |
| 03:12.37 | Deuce | oh |
| 03:12.54 | AsaPhelps | I used a trigger for that spell |
| 03:12.57 | AsaPhelps | I feel so dirty now |
| 03:13.07 | AsaPhelps | Actually I forgot how I added the fire |
| 03:13.37 | Demo | :/ |
| 03:13.38 | Deuce | some abilities need triggers :/ |
| 03:14.10 | Deuce | like one of mine that detects heroes belonging to a specific player group |
| 03:14.32 | AsaPhelps | Liessss |
| 03:14.40 | RickA | So asa, why'd you quit your other map? |
| 03:14.50 | AsaPhelps | I put it on hold until I can make it fun |
| 03:15.13 | AsaPhelps | And I think there's a memory leak somewhere |
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| 03:15.32 | AsaPhelps | I just had an awesome idea |
| 03:15.34 | Demo | Do you still have that map with the fireball in it? |
| 03:15.36 | rrowland | Anybody wanna buy a blizzcon ticket? :D |
| 03:15.36 | AsaPhelps | then you asked me a question |
| 03:15.39 | AsaPhelps | and you made me forget |
| 03:15.43 | AsaPhelps | my awesome idea |
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| 03:16.02 | NeoDeathXp | hey guys |
| 03:16.05 | AsaPhelps | oh right |
| 03:16.11 | Deuce | plague |
| 03:16.15 | Deuce | it was actually my idea |
| 03:16.21 | AsaPhelps | i was thinking about the hypnotoad |
| 03:16.32 | Ignorance | hmmm |
| 03:16.35 | Deuce | ALL HAIL HYPNOTOAD |
| 03:16.37 | Ignorance | so I have an enclosed space |
| 03:16.40 | Ignorance | and a unit with blink |
| 03:16.47 | heysparky | if you make the Death of a fire attack Fire they sparkle and burn... it's rade |
| 03:16.47 | NeoDeathXp | can someone help me really quick with some testing on bnet (us) i need to test some party dialogs |
| 03:16.48 | AsaPhelps | actually one ability i was trying to make work was |
| 03:16.49 | Ignorance | I don't want that unit to ever leave the enclosed space |
| 03:16.49 | heysparky | rad |
| 03:17.00 | AsaPhelps | where if a unit is looking at a unit that unit gets slower movement speed |
| 03:17.00 | Deuce | ignorance - ... better remove blink ;) |
| 03:17.04 | AsaPhelps | sorta of a medusa gaze |
| 03:17.08 | Ignorance | Deuce, that's not an option. |
| 03:17.12 | *** part/#sc2mapster heysparky (~heysparky@216.40.136.42) |
| 03:17.31 | Deuce | trigger that shoves it back in? |
| 03:17.40 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 03:17.42 | Deuce | or make the entire area he's stuck in unpathable |
| 03:17.47 | Ignorance | oh |
| 03:17.49 | Ignorance | that might work |
| 03:17.49 | Demo | disable blink while in that box? |
| 03:17.53 | Ignorance | no, no |
| 03:17.56 | Ignorance | it's a maze |
| 03:18.00 | Ignorance | where you run from fires |
| 03:18.02 | Ignorance | and the fires |
| 03:18.04 | Ignorance | can't escape the box |
| 03:18.08 | RickA | So Asa, how do you think it should work? I think it should be a trigger running several times per second that moves a unit a small amount towards the caster, and lowers its speed if its facing away so it can't run away. |
| 03:18.19 | NeoDeathXp | can someone help me really quick with some testing on bnet (us) i need to test some party dialogs |
| 03:18.21 | Deuce | you can disable blink inside that box |
| 03:18.30 | Deuce | and re-enable outside |
| 03:18.33 | Reactorex | RickA, a while wouldn't be better than a periodic? |
| 03:18.56 | Demo | I am really just interested in how you made that fireball AsaPhelps |
| 03:19.04 | Demo | :) |
| 03:19.06 | RickA | How would a while work? |
| 03:19.11 | Deuce | RickA - I believe that effect could be duplicated in the data editor |
| 03:19.28 | AsaPhelps | which ability rick? |
| 03:19.37 | RickA | I don't know how to move units in the editor. Static cling, btw. |
| 03:19.41 | Reactorex | It would only run once, not multiple times. |
| 03:19.47 | Ignorance | Deuce, your suggestions do not solve the problem, they merely avoid it. |
| 03:19.54 | AsaPhelps | well vortex pulls units |
| 03:19.58 | AsaPhelps | but there's no way to run away |
| 03:20.02 | Ignorance | maybe |
| 03:20.04 | Ignorance | I'll do that |
| 03:20.06 | Ignorance | pathing blocker thing |
| 03:20.08 | Reactorex | The while will loop it rather than using trigger threads. |
| 03:20.12 | AsaPhelps | I actually published that fireball map on sc2mapster |
| 03:20.25 | Reactorex | I'm an advocate of while over periodic >_> |
| 03:20.26 | AsaPhelps | who asked about it |
| 03:20.36 | Reactorex | ESP. for 'several times per second' periodic triggers. |
| 03:20.48 | Demo | Asaphelps : I have been |
| 03:20.49 | allenmelon | best fps released map? |
| 03:21.03 | Reactorex | Mine isn't released yet. |
| 03:21.04 | Reactorex | :O |
| 03:21.08 | RickA | Basing it off vortex is exactly the same as using triggers |
| 03:21.18 | Deuce | Ignorance - I thought the idea was to prevent blinking while you're running from fire |
| 03:21.21 | AsaPhelps | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/fireball-spellability/ try that Demo |
| 03:21.27 | allenmelon | no,what is the best released fps map? |
| 03:21.33 | AsaPhelps | I used triggers though (aka dark side black wizard magic) |
| 03:21.48 | RickA | Reactor, how what woudl the while condition check? |
| 03:22.00 | Deuce | i see, nevermind, you want him to stay in the enclosed area |
| 03:22.05 | Reactorex | It would check for nothing, unless you wanted it to check for something. |
| 03:22.06 | Deuce | yeah i'd go with unpathable area |
| 03:22.19 | Reactorex | While (No Conditions), Do (Actions) |
| 03:22.22 | RickA | So you want a trigger that runs forever |
| 03:22.31 | Reactorex | And then you can turn it off and on as necessary. |
| 03:22.46 | Reactorex | Rather than a trigger running some-odd times per sec. |
| 03:23.02 | RickA | Does moving a unit instantly reset its attack animation? |
| 03:23.18 | Reactorex | Depends on how you set the animation. |
| 03:23.22 | Reactorex | So I assume. |
| 03:23.28 | Reactorex | I use move instantly in my WASD system. |
| 03:23.32 | AsaPhelps | so whats your static cling going to do rick? |
| 03:23.36 | Reactorex | I use "Loop Forever" for my walk anims. |
| 03:23.39 | Reactorex | They don't reset. :) |
| 03:23.41 | RickA | Just what you suggested asa |
| 03:23.47 | Reactorex | My system supports strafing, too. :D |
| 03:24.01 | allenmelon | best released td map? |
| 03:24.08 | AsaPhelps | missile command td |
| 03:24.11 | RickA | baneling td |
| 03:24.23 | AsaPhelps | touhou td is good |
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| 03:25.18 | Deuce | i've heard bad things about the "wait" action. are there things I should watch out for? |
| 03:25.43 | RickA | wait isn't so bad anymore |
| 03:25.46 | RickA | It was in WC3 |
| 03:25.48 | AsaPhelps | waiting is the hardest part |
| 03:26.13 | AsaPhelps | what about |
| 03:26.22 | AsaPhelps | static cling shoots out electricity in a circle |
| 03:26.29 | AsaPhelps | makes them charged and pulls you towards them |
| 03:26.36 | AsaPhelps | then they turn into banelings |
| 03:26.40 | Deuce | ive got a trigger that will run often with a wait in it |
| 03:27.00 | Deuce | but I need a delay between deaths and zombie spawns |
| 03:27.57 | Verr82 | With triggers can you detect when a unit is created with a Create Unit Effect? |
| 03:28.17 | AsaPhelps | I think last created unit etc only apply to units created in the trigger |
| 03:28.29 | NeoDeathXp | woah i just discovered tabbed trigger editing... |
| 03:28.38 | Deuce | wait what |
| 03:28.40 | Deuce | tabbed? |
| 03:28.42 | NeoDeathXp | yeah |
| 03:28.47 | Deuce | EXPLAIN |
| 03:29.18 | NeoDeathXp | View -> View options -> Chek create new tabs |
| 03:29.23 | NeoDeathXp | WOOOOT |
| 03:29.23 | Verr82 | asaphelps - I mean an event to detect when the effect goes off |
| 03:29.29 | NeoDeathXp | works in data too! |
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| 03:30.48 | AsaPhelps | nice |
| 03:31.31 | Deuce | how do I make a new tab open |
| 03:31.46 | NeoDeathXp | just double click on a trigger |
| 03:31.53 | NeoDeathXp | or function |
| 03:32.23 | NeoDeathXp | also this is the more helpful thing i have found ever. http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/3/164/3ICE_s_SC2_Styles.jpg |
| 03:32.27 | Deuce | ... it just replaces the thing in the first tab... |
| 03:32.40 | NeoDeathXp | i dunno humm |
| 03:32.44 | AsaPhelps | what tab |
| 03:37.53 | Verr82 | what do markers do? |
| 03:38.14 | P_R_Deltoid | can labels have styles? |
| 03:38.24 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 03:38.31 | P_R_Deltoid | woops, forgot to press the Apply Style button |
| 03:39.18 | P_R_Deltoid | now it just shows nothing. Cool. |
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| 03:40.29 | Vindicator | Anyone planning on going to Blizzcon this year? If so - I'm looking for some roommates! PM me if you are interested in saving some money by rooming together. |
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| 03:41.17 | xttocs | Are you a good looking female? |
| 03:41.45 | Verr82 | yes he is |
| 03:41.45 | Vindicator | Yes, and my name is Vindicator...... no =P |
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| 03:42.35 | AsaPhelps | RickA are you still thereA? |
| 03:42.39 | RickA | yes |
| 03:43.03 | AsaPhelps | Do you like to sleep with your back turned to your roommate Vindicator? |
| 03:43.42 | AsaPhelps | So I'm trying to make Psi Storm red or something instead of its default color, anyone have an idea how to do that? I'm looking at events+ for related actors but no luck yet |
| 03:43.56 | *** topic/#sc2mapster by Sixen -> #sc2mapster http://sc2mapster.com/ | Report Triggers/Data that makes the game crash on the forums! | Patch 14 Undocumented Editor Changes: http://bit.ly/ae5PmH | Beta staying open 'til 6/7 | Idle in #MWE for Milky Way Editor! |
| 03:43.56 | RickA | Tint its actor |
| 03:44.17 | Werepenguin | AsaPhelps, Set Tint in events |
| 03:44.31 | Verr82 | set hdr to 4000 |
| 03:44.43 | Verr82 | burn a hole in your screen |
| 03:44.51 | AsaPhelps | but whats the actor for psi storm? |
| 03:45.00 | AsaPhelps | I figured out how to change the color of the aoe target thing |
| 03:45.09 | Vindicator | AsaPhelps - Yes? |
| 03:45.16 | Vindicator | I guess? |
| 03:45.56 | AsaPhelps | Maybe I found it |
| 03:46.59 | Cloudwolf | >.< sooooo... how would i go about owner of triggering unit == player# |
| 03:47.59 | Verr82 | asaphelps; the actor should be High Templar Psi Storm Model or High Templar Psi Storm Impact |
| 03:48.47 | AsaPhelps | I changed both to red, no noticable change, hmm |
| 03:49.01 | Werepenguin | How do I make it possible for a unit to walk on ground where there's "no pathing"? (I wanna basically make a gauntlet that the creeps can't escape, but my builder can walk over. Without using cliff levels) |
| 03:49.45 | AsaPhelps | you could make your builder a flier |
| 03:50.06 | Demo | So how can I make say a Yamato Cannon fire from 1 point to another? |
| 03:50.15 | AsaPhelps | what do you mean |
| 03:50.16 | Demo | without any actors or units firing them |
| 03:50.21 | Werepenguin | Can he be a flier but still appear to be on the ground? |
| 03:50.31 | Demo | Like the yamato cannon would come out of a point |
| 03:50.38 | Demo | and stop and destroy at another |
| 03:50.39 | AsaPhelps | like random yamatos shooting out of the ground? |
| 03:50.42 | Demo | yes |
| 03:50.51 | AsaPhelps | dummy unit casting it probably |
| 03:50.59 | Demo | k |
| 03:51.41 | Demo | hmm |
| 03:53.09 | Reactorex | Verr, I prefer HDRs of 30 and 40 for nice plasma-like effects. :P |
| 03:53.21 | Reactorex | Like using a light blue tint and high HDR values. |
| 03:53.27 | Reactorex | Elektrik. :P |
| 03:53.49 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 03:53.59 | AsaPhelps | for some reason I can't seem to change the color of effects's actors |
| 03:57.50 | P_R_Deltoid | How do you change a dialog borders? |
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| 04:11.16 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 04:11.37 | P_R_Deltoid | I changed the background of a dialog item button, but when I hover over it, it turns into the old dialog item graphic |
| 04:11.47 | Deuce | a Real value converted to integer will just round, right? |
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| 04:18.36 | picklefish | anyone in the UK getting redirected to myspace when you go to facebook? |
| 04:19.54 | rrowland | So |
| 04:20.18 | rrowland | The AI runs a script for every unit per AI loop right |
| 04:20.23 | rrowland | And I have, say, 5 sentries |
| 04:20.37 | rrowland | And I only want them to cast forcefield once per location |
| 04:21.10 | Xapti | Dustin's top down fighters game work without lag yet? |
| 04:21.13 | rrowland | Since all 5 run in the same loop before the spell is cast I can't see if there's a forcefield there |
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| 04:22.25 | onetwo_ | wow so laggy |
| 04:22.39 | onetwo_ | i thought i was in irc for the longest time and no one was talking |
| 04:22.46 | onetwo_ | but it lagged out |
| 04:22.49 | onetwo_ | and took so long to log back in |
| 04:22.49 | onetwo_ | lolo |
| 04:23.08 | Motive | bahahaha |
| 04:23.09 | rrowland | Wonder if there's a way to get the target point of a unit's ability without being in a trigger |
| 04:23.09 | Motive | I love AJAX |
| 04:23.10 | Motive | and jquery |
| 04:23.12 | Motive | I love it all |
| 04:24.10 | Vortexx | anyone tried to publish a map and get an error recently? |
| 04:24.23 | Vortexx | "Lost connection to gateway" |
| 04:29.57 | onetwo_ | good i didnt get DCed |
| 04:30.01 | onetwo_ | last time it got really quiet |
| 04:30.01 | onetwo_ | haah |
| 04:30.11 | Vortexx | what does Variant Defination Invalid mean? |
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| 04:32.52 | P_R_Deltoid | man |
| 04:32.55 | P_R_Deltoid | dialogs can eat my butt. |
| 04:38.01 | Vortexx | sigh, is publish broken? i keep getting different errors |
| 04:38.53 | P_R_Deltoid | When is it NOT broken |
| 04:38.55 | P_R_Deltoid | that is the real question |
| 04:43.40 | Sozer | i published yesterday |
| 04:44.31 | Sozer | did you set the host? |
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| 04:48.27 | Vortexx | i found the problem, it was one of my game variants |
| 04:48.33 | Leech | anyone willing to help me test a very small portion of this map im making |
| 04:48.57 | Vortexx | but now, my file has suddenly jumped to 40 mp and I can't publish it... >.< |
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| 04:49.19 | Leech | i d/c'd did anyone respond? =O |
| 04:50.24 | Sozer | i can leech |
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| 04:54.17 | Reactorex | P_R_Deltoid, what's the problem with dialogs? |
| 04:54.37 | P_R_Deltoid | I find it really hard to make them look good, I hate the default button animation and all the textures spazz out |
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| 04:55.06 | Reactorex | I've not had any of those problems. :o |
| 04:55.19 | P_R_Deltoid | what have you built with it? |
| 04:55.46 | Reactorex | Anything I've needed it for, so far. |
| 04:55.54 | P_R_Deltoid | Like what, though |
| 04:56.53 | Reactorex | Menus, detail command lists, stat boxes, UI-based eventing, |
| 04:57.37 | Reactorex | The rest of the stuff is on the other part of my hard drive that I can't get on right now. >_. |
| 04:57.37 | P_R_Deltoid | Do you ever change how the stuff looks? |
| 04:57.43 | Reactorex | Yeah. >:3 |
| 04:57.47 | Reactorex | Invisible background for the win. |
| 04:57.49 | P_R_Deltoid | For what purpose? |
| 04:57.59 | Reactorex | Menus and stat boxes. |
| 04:58.18 | Reactorex | Hiding the dialog's borders/background. |
| 04:58.21 | P_R_Deltoid | Besides hiding the background, what images do you use? |
| 04:58.40 | Reactorex | Haven't needed any for my purposes. |
| 04:59.13 | P_R_Deltoid | GOt any screenies? |
| 04:59.15 | Vortexx | omg, why would the editor suddenly see my file as 40MB it's 200k |
| 04:59.23 | Reactorex | Nope, since I never take any. >_> |
| 04:59.41 | P_R_Deltoid | It added things to the file that you didn't use |
| 05:00.05 | Vortexx | that's a lot of things |
| 05:00.09 | Vortexx | how do I get rid of it? |
| 05:00.16 | Reactorex | Vortexx, did you save using "smaller file" or "faster save"? |
| 05:00.21 | P_R_Deltoid | Every time you edit a unit, it adds it to the game data, increases the size. I saw someone a few days ago say that a bunch of random units got added to the file for no real reason under the guise of editing them |
| 05:00.37 | Vortexx | i just optimized it and same result |
| 05:00.44 | Vortexx | in windows the file is 200k |
| 05:00.50 | P_R_Deltoid | aw, weird. |
| 05:00.51 | P_R_Deltoid | vOv |
| 05:01.01 | Vortexx | vOv> |
| 05:01.05 | Vortexx | ? |
| 05:01.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Perhaps it is how the editor works. The save is just a placeholder for the rest of the files, but the actual file the publisher uses includes the models of the units |
| 05:01.40 | Vortexx | put it was just all the sudden |
| 05:02.05 | Vortexx | it worked one sec, i go in game, come back out and then bam 40MB |
| 05:02.05 | P_R_Deltoid | It probably added a bunch of unit models and sounds the editor thinks you are using |
| 05:02.24 | fiskekake | is it possible to make the terrain brush more precise? to make it snap to the grid? |
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| 05:03.03 | P_R_Deltoid | also, Reactorex, what I want to be able to do is something similar to this: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/2880-my-interface-wip/#p10 |
| 05:03.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Or at least making buttons look more... metalic |
| 05:03.20 | P_R_Deltoid | instead of holograms |
| 05:03.59 | Reactorex | Fisk, nope, but you can show grid and use it with square shape and try. |
| 05:05.46 | Reactorex | P_R_Deltoid: Nothing I can really say. :p |
| 05:05.51 | Coldfusionstorm | ffs |
| 05:05.55 | Coldfusionstorm | when i copy a unit |
| 05:05.59 | Coldfusionstorm | along with actors |
| 05:06.04 | Coldfusionstorm | it loses attack animation |
| 05:06.08 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, I just have to wait for him to release the code. Even the World of Starcraft engine release is outdated and only uses basic buttons and dialogs |
| 05:06.15 | P_R_Deltoid | do you copy the weapon? |
| 05:06.19 | P_R_Deltoid | I think that has something do with it. |
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| 05:09.13 | Reactorex | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/21/504/SC2_2010-05-31_00-36-52-12.jpg |
| 05:09.17 | onetwo | does anyone else keep getting DCed |
| 05:09.21 | onetwo | after a period of time |
| 05:09.23 | Reactorex | Someone used dialogs for that. :P |
| 05:09.40 | Coldfusionstorm | the weapon looks quite normal |
| 05:10.14 | Reactorex | P_R_Deltoid: Keep on trying, if whoever did that image can do it, you can too. :P |
| 05:10.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, that is good, too, but I think it's mostly custom images. The other one is all default images to the game. |
| 05:10.24 | Reactorex | In other news, I'll be able to use the editor again, tomorrow. :D |
| 05:10.51 | NeoDeathXp | GUUUYYYSSS |
| 05:10.57 | NeoDeathXp | hi. |
| 05:10.58 | Reactorex | Hi, NeoDeathXp? |
| 05:11.18 | Reactorex | Disconnected from what, onetwo? |
| 05:11.19 | Reactorex | SC2? |
| 05:11.23 | Reactorex | BNet 2.0? |
| 05:11.29 | onetwo | irc |
| 05:11.34 | NeoDeathXp | anyone on US server wanna help me with a quick test? |
| 05:11.35 | Reactorex | Nope. |
| 05:11.39 | Reactorex | ~seen Reactorex |
| 05:11.39 | purl | reactorex is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 61 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Reactorex'. |
| 05:11.41 | onetwo | reactorex why cant u use editor |
| 05:11.42 | onetwo | atm |
| 05:11.50 | Reactorex | I can't get on my windows side. xD |
| 05:11.54 | onetwo | damn |
| 05:11.59 | Reactorex | ~seen Reactorex |
| 05:11.59 | purl | reactorex is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 63 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Reactorex'. |
| 05:12.03 | NeoDeathXp | i need to do a test on party system |
| 05:12.07 | Reactorex | Awh, jeez. |
| 05:12.09 | Reactorex | It won't show my info. |
| 05:12.12 | Reactorex | ~info Reactorex |
| 05:12.14 | Reactorex | xP |
| 05:12.50 | Reactorex | I've been in the channel for 1 day 10 hours |
| 05:13.04 | Reactorex | Would've been 10 days if I didn't accidentally leave the night before last. |
| 05:14.09 | Reactorex | NeoDeathXp, what do you need to know about it? |
| 05:14.46 | onetwo | ~seen Reactorex |
| 05:14.47 | purl | reactorex is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 70 messages. Is idling for 38s, last said: 'NeoDeathXp, what do you need to know about it?'. |
| 05:14.49 | NeoDeathXp | i need to see if the button to invite works |
| 05:15.04 | Reactorex | I invited onetwo to a party earlier today. |
| 05:15.11 | Vortexx | alright, that's not it. I just downloaded a copy of the file i had on mapster and it's stillt rying to say 40 mb bs |
| 05:15.11 | onetwo | ? |
| 05:15.12 | onetwo | really? |
| 05:15.17 | Reactorex | Yep xD |
| 05:15.18 | NeoDeathXp | no no for my map |
| 05:15.20 | Reactorex | And you invited me to one. |
| 05:15.25 | Reactorex | Oh, hm. |
| 05:15.38 | NeoDeathXp | i have a party system in my map |
| 05:15.54 | NeoDeathXp | and it needs some testing |
| 05:16.08 | NeoDeathXp | the invite part anyway |
| 05:16.09 | fiskekake | how do you properly remove a manmade cliff that is bordering to a organic cliff? whenver I remove one of them, it adds to the other |
| 05:16.19 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:16.22 | onetwo | thats a conundrum |
| 05:16.25 | onetwo | we all face |
| 05:16.30 | Reactorex | NeoDeath, join a Candyland |
| 05:16.37 | onetwo | :/ |
| 05:16.37 | fiskekake | what do you do about it onetwo? |
| 05:16.44 | NeoDeathXp | candyland? |
| 05:16.50 | Reactorex | Err, map not found |
| 05:16.53 | Reactorex | Hold on. |
| 05:16.53 | onetwo | i sometimes just wipe the area with one type |
| 05:16.56 | onetwo | then add the other one in after |
| 05:17.04 | onetwo | trying to avoid any close borders |
| 05:17.05 | fiskekake | it's so fucking frustrating |
| 05:17.09 | Reactorex | Novice Blistering Sands 1v1 Faster |
| 05:17.43 | Reactorex | Neeeooodeathxp? |
| 05:18.16 | Reactorex | Wait... EU or US? |
| 05:18.35 | Reactorex | NeoDeathXp, did you minimize mIRC and fullscreen into SC2? >_> |
| 05:18.54 | NeoDeathXp | lol |
| 05:18.57 | NeoDeathXp | sorry |
| 05:19.01 | NeoDeathXp | its US |
| 05:19.08 | Reactorex | Mmk |
| 05:19.29 | Reactorex | Join a novice blistering sands 1v1 faster, add me to friends list there then open a lobby privately for your map |
| 05:19.31 | NeoDeathXp | anyone on US that can test quick? |
| 05:19.40 | NeoDeathXp | o |
| 05:19.43 | NeoDeathXp | lol |
| 05:19.49 | Reactorex | nub. :P |
| 05:20.16 | NeoDeathXp | wait what is your ingame name? |
| 05:20.29 | NeoDeathXp | Reactorex? |
| 05:20.34 | Reactorex | Same as on the IRC. |
| 05:20.36 | fiskekake | i must be doing it wrong onetwo, i just cannot get it to remove areas that are bordering |
| 05:20.39 | NeoDeathXp | k |
| 05:21.01 | fiskekake | if one side of the cliff is organic and the other manmade |
| 05:21.30 | Reactorex | You comin'? :P |
| 05:21.58 | onetwo | hmm |
| 05:22.01 | onetwo | im at a loss then :/ |
| 05:22.08 | onetwo | sec lieing down |
| 05:22.10 | onetwo | damn cold |
| 05:22.11 | onetwo | brb |
| 05:22.27 | NeoDeathXp | k |
| 05:22.31 | NeoDeathXp | sorr omw |
| 05:23.21 | Reactorex | Whatchu doin? |
| 05:23.22 | NeoDeathXp | damn that map is popular.. |
| 05:23.34 | NeoDeathXp | i got hijacked |
| 05:23.41 | Reactorex | Novice blistering sands, not blistering sands. |
| 05:24.07 | Reactorex | I found out that if they start right away when you join the lobby, you can go to Menu > Log out |
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| 05:24.35 | NeoDeathXp | k |
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| 05:27.18 | Reactorex | Relog don't work as often as restarting SC2. |
| 05:28.18 | Vortexx | >.> this is bs. the overview manager even says it's not 40mb how can this happen? |
| 05:28.28 | Werepenguin | argghh, how do I make units walk over "no pathing" areas? Changing pathing mode to flying doesn't work |
| 05:28.28 | Reactorex | This. |
| 05:28.32 | wacko|coding | efffffffffffffff |
| 05:28.33 | Reactorex | This is MADNESS. |
| 05:28.40 | Reactorex | No... |
| 05:28.45 | Reactorex | THIS. |
| 05:28.46 | Reactorex | IS. |
| 05:28.49 | Reactorex | The galaxy editor |
| 05:28.50 | Reactorex | .>_> |
| 05:28.53 | wacko|coding | Vortexx what is the issue ? |
| 05:29.12 | Vortexx | when i try to publish it says my map size is 40MB |
| 05:29.13 | Reactorex | His map is appearing as 40mb in the publishing thinger. |
| 05:29.20 | Reactorex | But not anywhere else. |
| 05:29.22 | wacko|coding | yea |
| 05:29.27 | wacko|coding | Pm Vortexx |
| 05:33.16 | Coldfusionstorm | Werepengion |
| 05:33.23 | Coldfusionstorm | you need to duplicate a groundmover |
| 05:33.39 | Coldfusionstorm | and then chose that gorund mover, and change it to flock |
| 05:33.45 | onetwo | test |
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| 05:41.54 | Reactorex | Shit, it didn't disconnect me. >:( |
| 05:41.55 | NeoDeathXp | ugh |
| 05:42.05 | Deuce | why does my transmission message not appear on screen :| |
| 05:42.05 | Reactorex | blames NeoDeathXp. |
| 05:42.08 | NeoDeathXp | i hate that its so broken |
| 05:42.16 | Reactorex | Anyways... |
| 05:42.18 | Reactorex | I has screenie. |
| 05:42.21 | Reactorex | You wants? |
| 05:42.24 | NeoDeathXp | yeah |
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| 05:45.05 | Werepenguin | Coldfusionstorm, I tried something like that but it still doesn't work |
| 05:46.03 | DaveKap_ | fuckin choose your defense |
| 05:46.09 | DaveKap_ | broken maps shouldn't be high up on the list >:| |
| 05:46.13 | Werepenguin | The only thing that "works" is unchecking everything under movement - collide, but that allows me to walk anywhere |
| 05:46.49 | Deuce | ahah. Apparently "transmission" doesn't appear on screen by default... it went under my "Message Log" tab though. |
| 05:48.32 | Werepenguin | I just want to create a guantlet without having to use different cliff levels. Can't find a good approach to it though |
| 05:49.28 | Deuce | mark areas as unpathable? |
| 05:49.46 | Werepenguin | yeah but I want some units to be able to cross it |
| 05:49.47 | Deuce | doodads that block movement? |
| 05:50.23 | Deuce | there are a bunch of unused movement flags |
| 05:50.52 | Deuce | could use one as a custom collide flag |
| 05:51.05 | Werepenguin | I tried that, but my unit still got blocked |
| 05:51.46 | Werepenguin | Unless I missed something I was supposed to change |
| 05:52.15 | Deuce | if any flags on two units match they will collide |
| 05:52.29 | Deuce | i think |
| 05:52.59 | Werepenguin | Well the pathing blocker had Unused Land 10 and my unit had unused land 09 and it got blocked |
| 05:53.21 | Deuce | did it also have the standard "ground" flag? |
| 05:53.34 | Deuce | or any others? |
| 05:53.58 | Werepenguin | Nope, only that |
| 05:54.03 | Deuce | hmm |
| 05:54.06 | Deuce | make it flying? :D |
| 05:54.07 | Werepenguin | The blocker did have footprints though |
| 05:54.40 | Werepenguin | yeah I thought about that but I can't do that as it would give access to the whole map which is not something I want :) |
| 05:54.50 | onetwo | test |
| 05:54.51 | onetwo | k good |
| 05:55.13 | Deuce | mark those areas unpathable :P |
| 05:55.27 | Deuce | although I think flyers might pass that... |
| 05:55.31 | Werepenguin | yup they will |
| 05:55.33 | Werepenguin | tried :) |
| 05:55.45 | Deuce | is there an unpathable air flag? i cant remember |
| 05:55.53 | Werepenguin | yeah there is..that could work |
| 05:56.18 | Werepenguin | but it sounds like A LOT of work for something that HAS to be easier to fix |
| 05:58.27 | Coldfusionstorm | There is no easy solutions in GE |
| 05:58.40 | picklefish | Coldfusionstorm: are you from austin? |
| 05:59.05 | Coldfusionstorm | Nope, im a proud Viking |
| 05:59.11 | Coldfusionstorm | (dane) |
| 05:59.31 | Coldfusionstorm | The viking unit is acually a parody of my ancenstors |
| 06:00.25 | Coldfusionstorm | :P |
| 06:00.28 | Deuce | klingons are also a parody of your ancestors |
| 06:01.20 | Deuce | or they're russians, depending on who you ask |
| 06:01.27 | Coldfusionstorm | ahahah :) |
| 06:01.51 | Coldfusionstorm | well, il tempered, and headrushing into battle |
| 06:01.51 | Triceron | Klngons are Danish? |
| 06:01.52 | Coldfusionstorm | yep |
| 06:02.00 | Coldfusionstorm | that sounds like a viking :) |
| 06:02.04 | Coldfusionstorm | no |
| 06:02.11 | Coldfusionstorm | but the similarites are there |
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| 06:02.14 | Deuce | only get to paradise by dying in battle |
| 06:02.19 | Deuce | lots of drinking |
| 06:03.20 | Coldfusionstorm | its called Valhalla |
| 06:03.21 | Coldfusionstorm | :) |
| 06:04.18 | Coldfusionstorm | i think its about time i get to clean up |
| 06:04.29 | Coldfusionstorm | my pan smells like something is evolving down there |
| 06:04.54 | Coldfusionstorm | and its only from yeste... |
| 06:04.56 | Coldfusionstorm | okay, then |
| 06:05.01 | Coldfusionstorm | okay, SOME time ago |
| 06:13.27 | picklefish | 2326G0ldfishbz |
| 06:16.12 | picklefish | works wrong irc |
| 06:16.15 | picklefish | whoops |
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| 06:29.51 | onetwo | . |
| 06:30.20 | P_R_Deltoid | yep |
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| 06:31.41 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 06:32.32 | onetwo | hi |
| 06:33.47 | onetwo | im contemplating what map to do after infection |
| 06:33.49 | onetwo | is done |
| 06:33.50 | onetwo | its almost done |
| 06:33.57 | P_R_Deltoid | infection? |
| 06:33.58 | onetwo | im thinking of doing a good save/load rpg |
| 06:34.04 | onetwo | or a TD |
| 06:34.09 | onetwo | but TDs are already decent |
| 06:34.12 | onetwo | no RPGs on popularity list |
| 06:34.22 | onetwo | infection is my current "map" |
| 06:34.23 | onetwo | deltoid |
| 06:35.07 | P_R_Deltoid | But I mean, what is it |
| 06:35.11 | Werepenguin | Say, is it possible to check and uncheck a unit's collide flags through triggers? |
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| 06:36.13 | Nuknfuts | wow why do people bother releasing maps that are unplayable |
| 06:36.27 | onetwo | deltoid it's a survivor vs zombie map where survivors die = become zombies |
| 06:36.35 | onetwo | and survivors can earn points for new weapons |
| 06:36.36 | P_R_Deltoid | alright |
| 06:36.40 | onetwo | and infected can earn points for new classes |
| 06:36.45 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:36.47 | onetwo | like wall-climbing etc |
| 06:36.49 | P_R_Deltoid | makes sense |
| 06:38.08 | P_R_Deltoid | what kind of lighting are you going for? |
| 06:38.28 | onetwo | who |
| 06:38.42 | P_R_Deltoid | You. |
| 06:38.53 | onetwo | in general or in my map? |
| 06:38.58 | P_R_Deltoid | On the map? |
| 06:39.00 | onetwo | cause i let players vote for 4 mini-levels at the start |
| 06:39.06 | onetwo | each has different lighting |
| 06:39.13 | onetwo | city one, dunes, fringe city, and the fields |
| 06:39.13 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh, alright |
| 06:39.16 | onetwo | so each one has its own atmosphere |
| 06:39.31 | onetwo | do you think we'll get snow textures |
| 06:39.33 | onetwo | on release? |
| 06:39.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Yep |
| 06:39.39 | onetwo | cool |
| 06:39.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Not having snow textures would be kinda weird. |
| 06:39.59 | P_R_Deltoid | Even WC2 had snow textures. |
| 06:40.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:40.47 | onetwo | i like how in sci fi like star wars... there's a "jungle planet"... an ice planet... etc |
| 06:40.49 | onetwo | when in reality |
| 06:40.51 | onetwo | look at earth |
| 06:40.56 | P_R_Deltoid | and I can't imagine, with this huge campaign they are toating, that no single player map has snow, nor no multiplayer map |
| 06:40.58 | onetwo | on one planet we have every environment |
| 06:41.13 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, but most planets stick to their guns |
| 06:41.16 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:41.17 | P_R_Deltoid | because they have no atmosphere |
| 06:41.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Although yeah |
| 06:41.35 | P_R_Deltoid | The jungle planets don't really make sense |
| 06:42.45 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:43.39 | Nuknfuts | the only planets that make actual sense are the all volcanic / all gas or all ocean ones |
| 06:43.54 | Nuknfuts | the all jungle ones are /boggle |
| 06:43.57 | P_R_Deltoid | all ice makes sense. |
| 06:44.02 | Nuknfuts | true |
| 06:44.15 | P_R_Deltoid | basically everything but all jungle, hah. |
| 06:44.23 | Nuknfuts | even the all water ones are wrong as youd expect ice at a cap |
| 06:44.33 | Fatal5101 | do all people making maps... DO NOT force people to leave the game after losing. some people like to watch the game afterwards to see what others do |
| 06:44.42 | Fatal5101 | cant stand being forced out of a game after losing |
| 06:45.15 | Nuknfuts | they still havent fixed the leave game detecting disconnects/quits bug? |
| 06:45.20 | P_R_Deltoid | What about on singleplayer matches? |
| 06:45.29 | P_R_Deltoid | Can we do it then? |
| 06:46.16 | onetwo | nope nukfnuts |
| 06:49.09 | Nuknfuts | lame :-/ |
| 06:52.08 | Coldfusionstorm | quick stupido question |
| 06:52.19 | Coldfusionstorm | if i add 4 pints to a integre |
| 06:52.29 | Coldfusionstorm | dosnt it then just store 4 pints |
| 06:52.33 | Coldfusionstorm | *points |
| 06:52.58 | Werepenguin | Say, is it possible to check and uncheck a unit's collide flags through triggers? |
| 06:53.00 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:53.06 | onetwo | Werepenguin, no idea |
| 06:53.12 | Werepenguin | :< |
| 06:53.20 | onetwo | coldfusion, if you had an integer = 5. Then you modified it to be + 4 |
| 06:53.22 | onetwo | its be 9 |
| 06:53.27 | onetwo | is that what youre asking? |
| 06:53.35 | Coldfusionstorm | but its zery |
| 06:53.37 | Coldfusionstorm | *zero |
| 06:53.56 | Coldfusionstorm | i have a integer starting with 0 |
| 06:54.04 | Coldfusionstorm | 1 is Biological |
| 06:54.10 | Coldfusionstorm | 2 is hero |
| 06:54.17 | Coldfusionstorm | 3 is Psionic |
| 06:54.19 | onetwo | okay... |
| 06:54.25 | Coldfusionstorm | 4 is Autonom |
| 06:54.45 | rrowland | There are defined constants for those attributes btw |
| 06:54.53 | rrowland | Somewhere |
| 06:54.55 | Coldfusionstorm | wich means? |
| 06:55.14 | Coldfusionstorm | i made the variabels myself |
| 06:55.49 | Coldfusionstorm | 4 variables, one for each player |
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| 06:55.55 | rrowland | It means you can use something similar to c_armorFlag_biological instead of using magic numbers |
| 06:56.12 | Coldfusionstorm | no |
| 06:56.19 | Coldfusionstorm | this is my own variables |
| 06:56.20 | Coldfusionstorm | ive made |
| 06:56.22 | Coldfusionstorm | and filles out |
| 06:56.23 | rrowland | Doesn't matter |
| 06:56.31 | Coldfusionstorm | what im asking |
| 06:56.35 | Demo | How to change the cast time of yamato cannon via data editor? |
| 06:56.40 | Bifuu|PS3 | O.o |
| 06:56.54 | rrowland | As long as everything referencing the biological flag uses the same integer |
| 06:56.56 | Coldfusionstorm | does the integer stores any values besides what you put in them? |
| 06:57.01 | rrowland | It doesn't matter if its 1, 30 or 1337 |
| 06:57.12 | Coldfusionstorm | so |
| 06:57.15 | Coldfusionstorm | you are saying to me |
| 06:57.26 | Coldfusionstorm | that integer 4 is used |
| 06:57.26 | Bifuu|PS3 | i quit wow about 8 months ago and got an e-mail today saying items in my guild bank were restored cuz someone got hacked haha |
| 06:57.33 | Coldfusionstorm | for a flad called Biological? |
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| 06:57.45 | Coldfusionstorm | *flag |
| 06:58.06 | P_R_Deltoid | uh |
| 06:58.07 | rrowland | There's an integer tied to a flag that represents the biological state |
| 06:58.08 | P_R_Deltoid | wait what |
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| 06:58.15 | rrowland | It's called a constant |
| 06:58.17 | Demo | How to change the cast time of yamato cannon via data editor? |
| 06:58.19 | rrowland | They're used for consistency |
| 06:58.35 | Coldfusionstorm | and wich integer is that? |
| 06:58.38 | Coldfusionstorm | 4? |
| 06:58.50 | vjeux | omg there's a guy that just put a wallpaper as signature :X |
| 06:59.04 | P_R_Deltoid | hah, why isn't there any size constraints? |
| 06:59.08 | P_R_Deltoid | that's awful |
| 06:59.23 | Demo | :( |
| 06:59.27 | Demo | I r unhappy |
| 06:59.27 | vjeux | well, it's not really possible to do in html |
| 06:59.39 | Coldfusionstorm | i could just charge the variables to reals then |
| 06:59.42 | Coldfusionstorm | couldnt i? |
| 06:59.56 | vjeux | and, if you put a size constraint, everyone will use as much space as they can :p |
| 07:00.13 | Demo | How to change the cast time of yamato cannon via data editor? :( |
| 07:02.19 | vjeux | Demo: you are unlunky, no one knows in here :( |
| 07:02.28 | Demo | I noticed |
| 07:02.59 | Bifuu|PS3 | sets Svatar and sig as a wallpaper |
| 07:03.03 | Bifuu|PS3 | Avatar |
| 07:03.06 | Bifuu|PS3 | damn im tired |
| 07:03.22 | P_R_Deltoid | then put a small size constraint, vjeux ?> |
| 07:03.23 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 07:03.33 | Coldfusionstorm | would someone PLEASE explain why the **** i get 7 out of a integer when i only put 4 in |
| 07:03.36 | Coldfusionstorm | huh? |
| 07:04.01 | vjeux | Coldfusionstorm: copy your triggers somewhere |
| 07:04.05 | P_R_Deltoid | disallow img tags and allow 1 image with specific size to be uploaded as their single signature. |
| 07:04.38 | Coldfusionstorm | `vjeux? how do i do that, just take a picture ? |
| 07:04.42 | P_R_Deltoid | Because you did something wrong, Coldfusionstorm. That is usually the problem |
| 07:04.44 | P_R_Deltoid | pastebin.com |
| 07:04.57 | Coldfusionstorm | its very simple i add 4 |
| 07:05.10 | Coldfusionstorm | when i check the variable its 7 |
| 07:05.15 | P_R_Deltoid | Just copy the trigger. |
| 07:05.20 | rrowland | Math problem |
| 07:05.23 | rrowland | x+4=7 |
| 07:05.23 | onetwo | just ban people Vjeuz |
| 07:05.24 | rrowland | Solve for x |
| 07:05.25 | onetwo | Vjeux |
| 07:05.26 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:05.30 | P_R_Deltoid | (I think it's 3) |
| 07:05.42 | Coldfusionstorm | your point is? |
| 07:05.56 | rrowland | Obviously the program must be inserting 3 into your integer |
| 07:06.11 | rrowland | Your computer has turned evil and is sabotaging your integers |
| 07:06.15 | Coldfusionstorm | lol |
| 07:06.20 | rrowland | You should drown it before it takes over your house and kills your family |
| 07:06.30 | vjeux | well, if i'm starting to ban people now ... not many will survirve :( |
| 07:06.50 | vjeux | banning |
| 07:06.55 | P_R_Deltoid | On the forums? |
| 07:07.04 | P_R_Deltoid | hey, are you SCIImapster? |
| 07:07.20 | vjeux | Coldfusionstorm: paste your triggers, we will be able to help you |
| 07:07.23 | onetwo | ban me vjeux |
| 07:07.24 | vjeux | no i'm vjeux |
| 07:07.28 | onetwo | ill be the sacrifice |
| 07:07.28 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 07:07.30 | P_R_Deltoid | can I like |
| 07:07.30 | Demo | onetwo |
| 07:07.33 | P_R_Deltoid | get special treament? |
| 07:07.35 | *** kick/#sc2mapster [onetwo!~52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/x-cwviphevwpmtnubr] by vjeux (wibble) |
| 07:07.35 | P_R_Deltoid | erm, treatment |
| 07:07.36 | Demo | How to change the cast time of yamato cannon via data editor? :( |
| 07:07.38 | P_R_Deltoid | I dunno how, but somehow. |
| 07:07.50 | P_R_Deltoid | Too late, Demo. |
| 07:07.51 | P_R_Deltoid | Too late. |
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| 07:07.56 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 07:07.58 | vjeux | what you want P_R_Deltoid? |
| 07:08.00 | onetwo | no i meant in sc2mapster |
| 07:08.02 | Coldfusionstorm | vjeux, sure, but how? |
| 07:08.05 | onetwo | i wanted to be resurrected |
| 07:08.08 | onetwo | and be a mesiah |
| 07:08.10 | P_R_Deltoid | vjeux, hmmm |
| 07:08.11 | Demo | How to change the cast time of yamato cannon via data editor? ONE TWO |
| 07:08.14 | P_R_Deltoid | a cool colored name |
| 07:08.14 | P_R_Deltoid | re |
| 07:08.15 | P_R_Deltoid | d |
| 07:08.16 | P_R_Deltoid | red name. |
| 07:08.19 | onetwo | fyi no one draw cartoons of me |
| 07:08.23 | onetwo | !! |
| 07:08.25 | vjeux | Coldfusionstorm: http://paste.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 07:08.30 | onetwo | sorry demo i dont have editor open |
| 07:08.37 | onetwo | i recommend |
| 07:08.39 | onetwo | look at the weapon |
| 07:08.40 | onetwo | for yamato |
| 07:08.48 | onetwo | look for any numbers that look like 3-4 |
| 07:08.53 | onetwo | how long is it by default? |
| 07:08.53 | vjeux | open the trigger, select all the actions are right click + text copy |
| 07:08.56 | onetwo | 5 secs? |
| 07:09.00 | onetwo | so look for a 5 somewhere |
| 07:09.02 | Demo | haI have been |
| 07:09.04 | onetwo | or 3 or 4 or w/e it is |
| 07:09.04 | Coldfusionstorm | fail |
| 07:09.07 | onetwo | check the effects too |
| 07:09.09 | Coldfusionstorm | there were a copy as text option |
| 07:09.10 | onetwo | it has to be there |
| 07:09.15 | onetwo | behavior? |
| 07:09.37 | vjeux | P_R_Deltoid: that's a favor I can't give :( |
| 07:09.49 | P_R_Deltoid | vjeux, why not? SCIIMapster holding you down? |
| 07:09.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Fight the power, give me a red name |
| 07:10.04 | P_R_Deltoid | I would ask for a custom avatar but avatars are free and changable. |
| 07:10.07 | P_R_Deltoid | so that is worthless |
| 07:10.11 | P_R_Deltoid | I also don't have an account |
| 07:10.18 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/echo-isles/. Echo Isles. JaySeong (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:10.37 | Coldfusionstorm | how do i get text out og GE, that copy as text option dosnt really work for me :/ |
| 07:10.40 | vjeux | P_R_Deltoid: how would I give you a red name if you don't have an account :p |
| 07:10.49 | onetwo | JaySeong not to be confused with Jaedong the legendary pro |
| 07:11.05 | vjeux | Coldfusionstorm: why isn't it working? |
| 07:11.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Make me an account, make it's name red, then give me the password. |
| 07:11.19 | P_R_Deltoid | The perfect plan |
| 07:11.34 | P_R_Deltoid | doesn't work? |
| 07:11.34 | Coldfusionstorm | i wish i knew |
| 07:11.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Ctrl W |
| 07:11.39 | P_R_Deltoid | I think? |
| 07:11.42 | P_R_Deltoid | What is the show script button |
| 07:11.51 | Coldfusionstorm | well, it only copy a little text |
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| 07:12.06 | Coldfusionstorm | well, i dont know were it is |
| 07:12.09 | P_R_Deltoid | Multiple lines? |
| 07:12.12 | P_R_Deltoid | Or just one line? |
| 07:12.17 | vjeux | Coldfusionstorm: select all the triggers (start from the first, hold shift, click the last) |
| 07:13.00 | onetwo | afk |
| 07:13.16 | Leech | is publishing still down? |
| 07:13.18 | P_R_Deltoid | seriously, how do you switch to script view? |
| 07:13.32 | Coldfusionstorm | it only gives my trigger tree titles |
| 07:13.56 | P_R_Deltoid | tree titles? |
| 07:14.08 | P_R_Deltoid | You are selecting the events, conditions, and actions inside the trigger? |
| 07:14.11 | P_R_Deltoid | Not the name of the trigger |
| 07:14.38 | Sozer | umm |
| 07:14.42 | vjeux | if you have all the titlte that's ok |
| 07:14.44 | vjeux | titles |
| 07:15.43 | Sozer | ok so im reading through previous text |
| 07:15.55 | Sozer | to see if anyone answered any questions i might wanna know the answers to |
| 07:15.57 | Sozer | and i see this |
| 07:15.58 | Sozer | <Coldfusionstorm> i think its about time i get to clean up |
| 07:15.58 | Sozer | <Coldfusionstorm> my pan smells like something is evolving down there |
| 07:15.58 | Sozer | <Coldfusionstorm> and its only from yeste... |
| 07:15.58 | Sozer | <Coldfusionstorm> okay, then |
| 07:15.58 | Sozer | <Coldfusionstorm> okay, SOME time ago |
| 07:16.08 | Sozer | I NEED TO KNOW |
| 07:16.11 | Sozer | what the FUCK!>? |
| 07:16.25 | P_R_Deltoid | who knows, apparently he is a viking |
| 07:16.40 | Sozer | i was concerned that by yest |
| 07:16.42 | vjeux | P_R_Deltoid: Data > View Script (Ctrl + F11) |
| 07:16.45 | Sozer | he meant YEAST |
| 07:16.51 | Sozer | lmfao |
| 07:17.03 | Sozer | <3 |
| 07:17.14 | Coldfusionstorm | Sozer?, are you misunderstanding that line? |
| 07:17.23 | Sozer | hahaha |
| 07:17.27 | Sozer | it was taken out of context |
| 07:17.28 | Sozer | so yes |
| 07:17.33 | Coldfusionstorm | btw, vjeux, im trying to get some useable output for you |
| 07:17.48 | Sozer | im just chillin playin just cause |
| 07:17.51 | Demo | Yep I'm still lost as to where this value is for cast tiem |
| 07:17.51 | Sozer | no concern to me |
| 07:17.56 | vjeux | select all the lines and copy |
| 07:18.00 | vjeux | this is an useable output |
| 07:18.10 | Coldfusionstorm | in ONE trigger |
| 07:18.14 | Coldfusionstorm | or all trigger? |
| 07:18.17 | Coldfusionstorm | *triggers |
| 07:18.45 | P_R_Deltoid | in the trigger in question |
| 07:18.48 | P_R_Deltoid | that edits the variable |
| 07:19.01 | P_R_Deltoid | the variable that is outputting numbers incorrectly, apparently. |
| 07:22.31 | slightlyrandom | How do I avoid scaling inheritence when morphing ? |
| 07:23.49 | Coldfusionstorm | There |
| 07:23.59 | Coldfusionstorm | Aw *** |
| 07:24.01 | Coldfusionstorm | need a account |
| 07:24.18 | Coldfusionstorm | gah |
| 07:24.21 | Coldfusionstorm | i think i even have one |
| 07:24.37 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 07:24.37 | P_R_Deltoid | WHat? |
| 07:24.45 | P_R_Deltoid | just click submit. |
| 07:24.57 | P_R_Deltoid | You arew using pastebin? ou don't need an account to submit to facebin |
| 07:25.02 | P_R_Deltoid | er, |
| 07:25.05 | P_R_Deltoid | pastebin |
| 07:25.55 | Coldfusionstorm | but i used mapster |
| 07:26.02 | P_R_Deltoid | uh... okay |
| 07:26.03 | P_R_Deltoid | vOv |
| 07:26.19 | P_R_Deltoid | same concept, but one doesn't require an account, nor that you remember that account. In any case, have you submitted it yet? |
| 07:26.35 | Coldfusionstorm | yeah, i submitted, logged in |
| 07:26.44 | Coldfusionstorm | and since i havent logged in a while it all dissapered |
| 07:26.45 | Coldfusionstorm | sigh |
| 07:26.54 | P_R_Deltoid | pastebin.com |
| 07:26.57 | Coldfusionstorm | i am |
| 07:26.59 | Coldfusionstorm | doing that now |
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| 07:28.36 | Sozer | LMFAO |
| 07:28.38 | Sozer | FACEBIM |
| 07:28.43 | Sozer | facebin* |
| 07:28.49 | Sozer | that shit made me laugh |
| 07:29.39 | P_R_Deltoid | social networking and community code editing is the next wave in the web |
| 07:30.36 | slightlyrandom | You can edit code! With your friends! |
| 07:31.14 | onetwo | hey friends. let us edit code together in a fun and fasionable way. let us edit together using the new internet tool: facebin. Sponsored by xbox live. |
| 07:31.14 | Sozer | hahahahaha |
| 07:31.30 | onetwo | let us is the long version of let's |
| 07:31.32 | onetwo | :D |
| 07:31.33 | P_R_Deltoid | now with apps like codefarm: Maintain your friends code farm to gain points and move up the leaderboards. |
| 07:31.45 | Sozer | LMFAO code farm!!!!! |
| 07:31.46 | onetwo | final boss: undocumented code |
| 07:32.08 | Sozer | dude |
| 07:32.25 | Sozer | facebook is constantly givin me these gay messages about all these douches farmville |
| 07:32.37 | slightlyrandom | Why the hell are you on facebook ? |
| 07:32.45 | Sozer | its about as gay as myspace random comments until i got fed up |
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| 07:33.08 | Sozer | now facebook is gettin old... and i believe the next new popular social networking site will be mytwitface.com |
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| 07:33.49 | Sozer | i joined facebook only to conform to soceitys demanding needs |
| 07:34.19 | Sozer | facebook is a trend parents are picking up too |
| 07:34.24 | Werepenguin | I joined facebook to stalk people |
| 07:34.25 | Sozer | unlike pot |
| 07:34.34 | Coldfusionstorm | There |
| 07:34.36 | Coldfusionstorm | http://pastebin.com/vLsYDwe3 |
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| 07:35.01 | Helral | hey all |
| 07:35.06 | Sozer | btw im going back afk... and btw... JUST CAUSE 2 IS AWESOME |
| 07:35.07 | onetwo | yeah facebook is essentially myspace now |
| 07:35.11 | onetwo | soon it will fall behind |
| 07:35.15 | onetwo | wonder what's next... |
| 07:35.23 | Coldfusionstorm | vjeux, there i finally copy pasted said trigger |
| 07:35.24 | Coldfusionstorm | http://pastebin.com/vLsYDwe3 |
| 07:35.25 | Sozer | mytwitface! |
| 07:35.42 | vjeux | so what's the problem? |
| 07:35.46 | Coldfusionstorm | bah |
| 07:35.55 | Coldfusionstorm | well |
| 07:36.04 | Coldfusionstorm | The trigger is set to spawn |
| 07:36.22 | Coldfusionstorm | 1 unit IF a player has a integer = 4 |
| 07:36.50 | Coldfusionstorm | The problem is that the integer gives 7 |
| 07:36.56 | Coldfusionstorm | and not 4 |
| 07:37.06 | vjeux | where do you change that integer |
| 07:37.07 | Helral | where do you set that integer? |
| 07:37.17 | Coldfusionstorm | variable |
| 07:37.20 | Sozer | just rebatch the functionizer |
| 07:37.31 | Coldfusionstorm | 2 seconds |
| 07:37.43 | Sozer | srrrrrrruuy had a litttle to much to drink |
| 07:37.58 | vjeux | Sozer: wtf it's 9.37 am :p |
| 07:38.04 | Coldfusionstorm | 2 seconds |
| 07:38.04 | Sozer | FOR U |
| 07:38.06 | Coldfusionstorm | forthe that part |
| 07:38.09 | Helral | hehehe ;p |
| 07:38.20 | Clord | Vjeux is confused of worldwide times |
| 07:38.21 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:38.21 | Sozer | its a perfect 3 AM for MEEEEE |
| 07:38.23 | Helral | @vjeux: WEST timezone, right? |
| 07:38.32 | Coldfusionstorm | http://pastebin.com/VvbnFn9t |
| 07:38.33 | Coldfusionstorm | there |
| 07:38.36 | Sozer | NO WORK TOMM!!!!!!!!! w0000t |
| 07:38.38 | Coldfusionstorm | that is the trigger that sets the variable |
| 07:38.39 | heysparky | wow, did you guys look at the train track puzzle map on the SC2mapster homepage? |
| 07:38.55 | Sozer | sparky link us if ur kind |
| 07:38.56 | Coldfusionstorm | i saw the frontpage |
| 07:39.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah |
| 07:39.15 | P_R_Deltoid | It's cool |
| 07:39.17 | heysparky | http://www.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 07:39.22 | Sozer | lmfao |
| 07:39.24 | Sozer | dip |
| 07:39.27 | vjeux | Coldfusionstorm: look at other places where you update it |
| 07:39.39 | slightlyrandom | Select the variable, press delete |
| 07:39.39 | heysparky | well, teh video is cool |
| 07:39.45 | slightlyrandom | That'll give you a list of where it is used |
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| 07:39.49 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 07:39.49 | Helral | @Coldfusionstorm: maybe you want to use SET variable instead of MODIFY variable. |
| 07:39.51 | heysparky | it's front and center |
| 07:39.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Wait |
| 07:39.53 | slightlyrandom | (No, I aint shitting you) |
| 07:39.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Why are you adding 4? |
| 07:39.57 | P_R_Deltoid | Why not just set 4. |
| 07:40.00 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 07:40.05 | Coldfusionstorm | thats a good point |
| 07:40.13 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuID3xp9Emc |
| 07:40.14 | Coldfusionstorm | because its starts at 0 |
| 07:40.20 | Coldfusionstorm | so when i made it |
| 07:40.38 | Clord | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:40.39 | Clord | XD |
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| 07:41.56 | vjeux | Clord: minimap gone? |
| 07:42.04 | Clord | it was that patch related bug |
| 07:42.10 | Clord | where in replays there is no minimap |
| 07:42.23 | vjeux | oh ok |
| 07:42.28 | Sixen | rawr. |
| 07:42.49 | vjeux | hey |
| 07:42.49 | Clord | it is map where you build forces... it is 3v3v3v3 |
| 07:42.53 | Sixen | Hey vjeux |
| 07:42.55 | Clord | forces destroy enemies clockwise |
| 07:43.03 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:43.13 | Clord | you build right counter units to beat enemies |
| 07:43.16 | Clord | and some defenses to stay alive |
| 07:43.19 | vjeux | oh so basically you have to put towers on one side and send enemies on the other |
| 07:43.19 | Clord | longer than enemy |
| 07:43.28 | Clord | yes in 3v3v3v3 |
| 07:43.31 | Clord | you need towers to defend etc |
| 07:43.39 | vjeux | when i played it it was really confusing |
| 07:43.58 | vjeux | i couldn't figure how to kill incoming units |
| 07:44.25 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't really get this mad rush to duplicate every SC1 UMS, none of them were very good. |
| 07:44.26 | Clord | yeah you gotta plan forward sometimes |
| 07:44.27 | vjeux | so i made a lot of barracks where i could so they would attack the enemies |
| 07:44.31 | P_R_Deltoid | They were all done way better in WC3. |
| 07:44.35 | Clord | place barracks to location |
| 07:44.43 | Clord | where they cross near that command center or planetary fortress |
| 07:44.46 | Clord | so they sweep from there |
| 07:44.47 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:44.53 | vjeux | P_R_Deltoid: because it's easy :p |
| 07:45.12 | Clord | place your spawning places so that your forces travel to automatically defend when they pass ;) |
| 07:45.16 | vjeux | finding a map concept is really hard |
| 07:45.22 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, I guess. I think I find it annoying because they are so badly done most often, especially compared to the WC3 versions of the SC1 maps |
| 07:45.22 | Helral | I didn't join the rush ;p |
| 07:45.46 | P_R_Deltoid | It's just shotty work coming out now. That cat and mouse map is awful |
| 07:45.57 | P_R_Deltoid | The one where you have to use DTs to build things. Why the fuck did he do that? |
| 07:46.11 | P_R_Deltoid | Why not have units produce from unit structures |
| 07:46.11 | vjeux | it takes time to make good maps |
| 07:46.11 | Clord | vjeux.... once people got used to what to do they defended their bases rather well in it =) |
| 07:46.26 | P_R_Deltoid | But it's such a simple thing, and he made it really really complicated and un-intuitive, perhaps attempting to remain true to the old SC1 UMS |
| 07:46.30 | vjeux | the editor has only be up for a month and we are still in beta |
| 07:46.42 | heysparky | 2 months |
| 07:46.46 | vjeux | 2 months! |
| 07:46.48 | Clord | technically we are like between beta and release ;) |
| 07:46.50 | Clord | XD |
| 07:46.57 | Clord | as we already enjoy from it |
| 07:46.58 | Clord | lol |
| 07:47.05 | P_R_Deltoid | That cat and mouse game is shotty for a week of work at best, people are just rushing and it's pretty lame. |
| 07:47.11 | vjeux | balanced and good maps are going to come later |
| 07:47.23 | P_R_Deltoid | It's the mechanics, they are broken. |
| 07:47.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Not the balance |
| 07:47.31 | Helral | I'm taking my time developing my random dungeon generator ;p |
| 07:47.35 | slightlyrandom | It's the editor thats broken, thats what |
| 07:47.41 | heysparky | Where are the campaign maps? |
| 07:47.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Not really, the editor is fine. |
| 07:47.48 | slightlyrandom | I thought I understood editors and events. Turns out I dont |
| 07:47.51 | heysparky | just aren't a ton |
| 07:47.56 | P_R_Deltoid | Turns out you don't >:( |
| 07:47.57 | slightlyrandom | Actors and events* |
| 07:48.13 | slightlyrandom | Cant make these things do what I want em to ;) |
| 07:48.38 | Clord | lol when Fortress Fight got first published release... balance was bit off |
| 07:48.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Well, if you're ever in a position where you don't need to do either and there is a simpler solution: do that. Learn from the cat and mouse map mistakes. |
| 07:48.44 | Clord | Marauders was most OP thing in map |
| 07:48.57 | Clord | XD |
| 07:49.29 | Helral | you mean with their 125/100 health? |
| 07:49.49 | Clord | after heavy nerf bait....... marauders was working vs their counter... not vs every ground force |
| 07:50.22 | Clord | well health got fixed to 100 and |
| 07:50.32 | Clord | 10 + 10 damage was changed to 5 + 15 |
| 07:50.33 | Clord | XD |
| 07:50.41 | Fatal5101 | where can you find the maps that are downloaded when you play them online.. |
| 07:50.42 | Helral | hehehe |
| 07:50.47 | Clord | aka they still dealth 20 damage vs armored but only 5 damage vs non armored |
| 07:50.59 | Clord | that was huge nerfd |
| 07:51.03 | onetwo | File-Open in editor |
| 07:51.06 | onetwo | then switch to bnet tab |
| 07:51.18 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/2932-cortex-roleplay/ |
| 07:51.30 | vjeux | Cortex currently specializes in this, with the most advanced chat interpreter for Blizzard games ever written to my knowledge. The Cortex interpreter is capable of handling all kinds of commands, like "@life 45" to set life to 45, or "@life 100%" to heal your unit fully. |
| 07:51.30 | vjeux | xD |
| 07:52.26 | Clord | I was making practice AI for fortress fight |
| 07:52.30 | Clord | I disabled it quite some time ago XD |
| 07:52.50 | Clord | it caused SCV dudes.. even player controlled to go crazy |
| 07:53.00 | P_R_Deltoid | it is I, ghost marine. |
| 07:53.34 | Clord | they also got bit problem to determise when to repair and when to nuke |
| 07:53.44 | Clord | they spam repair so they refuse to nuke... with their special nukes ^^ |
| 07:53.53 | P_R_Deltoid | I remember spending hours in DoBRP makign explosive barrels and having mega heroes come in and blow them up |
| 07:54.04 | P_R_Deltoid | that custom owned |
| 07:54.19 | onetwo | interesting, i DLed risk revulsion |
| 07:54.21 | onetwo | all triggers are blank |
| 07:54.23 | onetwo | meaning they locked it |
| 07:54.30 | onetwo | but i thought you could only host publicly with unlocked... |
| 07:54.34 | Motive | Lol Deltoid. |
| 07:54.40 | Clord | odd |
| 07:54.43 | Fatal5101 | maybe its done with galaxy code |
| 07:54.46 | Motive | Did you ever make explosive barrels inside of explosive barrels inside of explosive barrels, etc? |
| 07:54.47 | Motive | :D |
| 07:54.49 | P_R_Deltoid | perhaps people already figured out how to break it. |
| 07:54.53 | onetwo | im trying to figure out how he colored labels on dialog |
| 07:54.57 | P_R_Deltoid | like they did in wc3 |
| 07:55.03 | P_R_Deltoid | colored labels? |
| 07:55.05 | P_R_Deltoid | Use the color tool? |
| 07:55.06 | onetwo | because in mine, color of Convert player color to color |
| 07:55.11 | onetwo | every time |
| 07:55.13 | onetwo | returns white |
| 07:55.22 | onetwo | but i need to get player color |
| 07:55.25 | onetwo | and that should work |
| 07:55.30 | vjeux | Motive: where can i download your cortex project? |
| 07:55.32 | P_R_Deltoid | Wait, what do you mean how he colored labels? |
| 07:55.38 | Motive | nowhere yet, but it's on battle.net 2.0. |
| 07:55.38 | onetwo | dialog labels |
| 07:55.40 | onetwo | are colored by player |
| 07:55.42 | onetwo | in my map i tried |
| 07:55.44 | Clord | hearing protection system makes me curious |
| 07:55.45 | onetwo | and it just made them all white |
| 07:55.59 | vjeux | no way to download it other way, want to see the crazy optimizations you did :p |
| 07:56.03 | P_R_Deltoid | Aw, I get it |
| 07:56.24 | Motive | oh I can give you library source |
| 07:56.28 | Motive | I'll add the link to that |
| 07:56.38 | vjeux | thanks |
| 07:58.46 | Motive | added |
| 07:59.41 | Coldfusionstorm | vjuex thanks for the help |
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| 08:02.53 | Clord | lol that a standard tower defense map |
| 08:02.56 | Clord | I just checked it via editor |
| 08:03.05 | Clord | player 1 regions are unbalanced positions |
| 08:03.06 | Clord | XD |
| 08:03.13 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:03.24 | Clord | well that can be said of other players too |
| 08:03.30 | Clord | they are just somewhat in right places |
| 08:03.42 | Clord | problem is that units seek center of them |
| 08:03.56 | Clord | so such thing screws over balance major way XD |
| 08:04.25 | Clord | ./facepalm ^^ |
| 08:04.41 | Clord | building blockers... they even too are just somewhat in right places |
| 08:04.43 | Clord | lol |
| 08:06.02 | P_R_Deltoid | exactly what I was talking about |
| 08:07.29 | Clord | I got curious how he made that multi hit photon cannon |
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| 08:11.57 | Clord | lol rather simple as expected |
| 08:11.59 | vjeux | bnet is kinda scary |
| 08:12.06 | vjeux | you can open any map from the editor |
| 08:12.17 | Clord | search four targets in range and shoot weapon projectile to each |
| 08:12.28 | Clord | nice |
| 08:12.38 | Clord | vjeux... yeah ^^ |
| 08:12.48 | Clord | expect what use their protection system once their protection system is fixed |
| 08:13.31 | heysparky | So. Is it better to have fewer triggers that do more stuff or smaller triggers, but more of them? |
| 08:13.53 | Clord | it is mostly what people prefer lol |
| 08:13.56 | heysparky | I feel like I have tons of triggers when I open up other people's maps. |
| 08:13.57 | Clord | I mean |
| 08:14.08 | heysparky | But I look in their triggers and there are, like 100 actions |
| 08:14.12 | Clord | I'm not such big organizer so I might make trigger do more than it's name indicates |
| 08:14.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Most triggers makes it easier to read and edit, especially for other people opening your map |
| 08:14.28 | P_R_Deltoid | and sometimes it does make sense to optimize it |
| 08:14.33 | P_R_Deltoid | but otherwise is aestetic. |
| 08:14.34 | Motive | What most people do iirc is instead of (Triggering Player) duplicate triggers and change the index manually |
| 08:14.41 | Motive | for multiplayer maps that need arrays |
| 08:14.48 | vjeux | yeah that's sick :x |
| 08:15.02 | Kalekin | I love doing that |
| 08:15.05 | Clord | lol they don't use player groups? |
| 08:15.06 | Clord | XD |
| 08:15.15 | Motive | Simpler triggers are always best. Just arrange them in a way that allows you to maximize their use. |
| 08:15.32 | Clord | Motive... matter of person really |
| 08:15.33 | rrowland | Most of the triggers I see on bnet are horrendous |
| 08:15.41 | Clord | =) |
| 08:15.42 | heysparky | Does anyone on now know how to apply a tint via aura? |
| 08:15.47 | Motive | Usually, but in larger projects you want more reuseable functions/action definitions. |
| 08:15.51 | Motive | Plus it's easier to do rewrites that way. |
| 08:15.55 | heysparky | I like simple triggers too |
| 08:16.13 | heysparky | Yeah, Motive, I'm still learning the power of functions |
| 08:16.19 | Clord | I really use my own computer as comparison when map performance is too bad |
| 08:16.20 | rrowland | Having 12 triggers for 12 players means when you change one you have to change them all |
| 08:16.37 | Clord | lol that's why good mappers use player groups |
| 08:16.39 | rrowland | It also means 12x the trigger space |
| 08:16.41 | Clord | pick every player ^^ |
| 08:16.46 | heysparky | I'm making a single player map, so the players' triggers are quite different |
| 08:16.48 | Clord | so no need do same trigger 12 times |
| 08:16.57 | Motive | I code even my SP maps like they're multiplayer. |
| 08:16.59 | Motive | Just in case. Lolol |
| 08:17.12 | rrowland | I've seen maps on BNet running a recursive function for each player |
| 08:17.17 | Motive | It doesn't kill me to make the variables size 16 arrays and throw in a (Triggering Player) |
| 08:17.21 | rrowland | spawn1 spawn2 spawn3 spawn4 etc |
| 08:17.29 | Motive | xD |
| 08:17.46 | rrowland | I think GE is TOO easy |
| 08:17.53 | Clord | I would put those four players regions to variable with arrays ^^ |
| 08:17.59 | Clord | then do single trigger to spawn them all |
| 08:18.01 | Clord | for each player |
| 08:18.15 | Clord | that is how TD spawning is done real way |
| 08:18.15 | rrowland | There needs to be something keeping people who don't know how to code effectively from coming up with jumbled garbage triggers like that |
| 08:18.16 | Clord | =) |
| 08:18.24 | Motive | Nah |
| 08:18.27 | Motive | they'll learn eventually. |
| 08:18.39 | Motive | It's easier to do it with simpler definitions, anyways. |
| 08:18.40 | Clord | I remember that some guy got problem |
| 08:18.51 | Clord | he was needing hundreds of triggers to do in Warcraft III maps for single thing |
| 08:18.58 | Clord | then I told him something and it reduced to one trigger |
| 08:19.00 | Clord | or whatever |
| 08:19.03 | Motive | xD |
| 08:19.11 | Motive | in WC3 I was such a lazy bastard |
| 08:19.24 | Motive | had an array of like 2000 items and looped htrough them comparing the names of them all. |
| 08:19.37 | Motive | it had visible lag of like 500ms but it was better than the alternative. |
| 08:19.38 | Clord | well my random spawner thing |
| 08:19.42 | Clord | random locations... loop 1000 |
| 08:19.43 | Clord | XD |
| 08:19.49 | Clord | to make sure there is enough stuff spawned |
| 08:20.09 | heysparky | would anyone care to critique my trigger practices? I'm just sorta curious. I'm a fledgling (at BEST) programmer, just taken my first real programming class. |
| 08:20.11 | Clord | lol even queen is checked was it 100 times to make sure it spawns to area it survives |
| 08:20.27 | Motive | paste some of them on pastebin and I'll give you my opinion, heysparky. |
| 08:20.27 | rrowland | Sure sparky, I'll make fun of you |
| 08:20.31 | heysparky | lol |
| 08:20.34 | Motive | xD |
| 08:20.40 | Clord | I gotta link to my awesome trigger |
| 08:20.44 | Clord | it has over 500 lines |
| 08:21.01 | rrowland | God I understand why blizz didn't implement forcefield into their AI (yet) |
| 08:21.06 | rrowland | I've been working on it for like 2 days |
| 08:21.14 | Clord | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2068/ |
| 08:21.21 | Motive | Not necessarily. Blizzard can just use C++ and make their lives easier. |
| 08:21.25 | Clord | this is how my fortress fight handles victory conditions |
| 08:21.25 | Clord | XD |
| 08:21.35 | Clord | see repeating stuff ^^ |
| 08:21.41 | heysparky | I think I over use global variables |
| 08:21.41 | Clord | too lazy to optimize ;) |
| 08:21.53 | Motive | Haha Clord. xD |
| 08:22.11 | Motive | To be fair though, some of that is really unoptimizeable in GUI without being ridiculous |
| 08:22.21 | Motive | like the Or - Conditions - Triggering Unit == Fortess[x] |
| 08:22.22 | Clord | anyways it does including... undo research for next round so people can research stuff again |
| 08:22.23 | rrowland | Only 600 lines? |
| 08:22.24 | rrowland | lol |
| 08:23.03 | rrowland | You could take all of those tech tree things and make them into a function |
| 08:23.10 | rrowland | Cut out like a billion lines that ay |
| 08:23.11 | Clord | what made research system for maps like that pain in WCIII was lack of ability to undo research.. but in this game you can so I can add research stuff |
| 08:23.12 | rrowland | way |
| 08:23.24 | Clord | yeah I know how to make it shorter |
| 08:23.25 | Clord | lol |
| 08:24.19 | heysparky | um... this is probably the 'best' thing I've made |
| 08:24.20 | heysparky | http://pastebin.com/jb4Sbxdz |
| 08:24.40 | Clord | with simple boolean variable I could cut research undoing to one time |
| 08:24.41 | heysparky | It makes a wall of units that then move in a direction of your specifications |
| 08:25.12 | heysparky | I'm using it to make a wall of 'lavasplash' that sweeps the map |
| 08:25.18 | heysparky | burninating |
| 08:25.26 | Motive | Seems good to me. :P |
| 08:25.40 | Motive | I love that word: burninating. |
| 08:25.42 | rrowland | What are we criticizing? |
| 08:25.46 | Clord | there is some lol map designs like that "a standard tower defense" map what is played with unbalanced regions etc |
| 08:25.47 | rrowland | There are no loops lol |
| 08:25.52 | Clord | once you lose.... it kicks you out |
| 08:25.53 | Clord | XD |
| 08:25.55 | rrowland | I guess there's one while loop |
| 08:26.04 | Clord | what if those guys are friends in same match and loser gets kicked out |
| 08:26.12 | Clord | they all ragequit |
| 08:26.13 | heysparky | critique is - how can that be improved |
| 08:26.16 | Clord | :) |
| 08:26.43 | slightlyrandom | Cut out the comments, thats just overhead |
| 08:26.49 | rrowland | lol |
| 08:26.50 | slightlyrandom | REAL code is opaque and impossible to reuse for others |
| 08:26.57 | Clord | I many times not use variables when I could |
| 08:27.04 | P_R_Deltoid | what are banks? |
| 08:27.05 | Clord | as there is not that big performance difference in end result |
| 08:27.06 | Sixen | That's one hell of a trigger, Clord, :X. |
| 08:27.07 | Clord | =) |
| 08:27.08 | P_R_Deltoid | In basic terms |
| 08:27.21 | P_R_Deltoid | err, data tables |
| 08:27.29 | slightlyrandom | A place that gives you fictional money, and demand you pay them twice the amount back |
| 08:27.43 | P_R_Deltoid | or, is it possible to hide all dialogs in one action |
| 08:27.44 | rrowland | Well I usually assign things to variables that I plan to use more than once, or even just to prevent having a huge, ugly unreadable line |
| 08:27.52 | P_R_Deltoid | as apposed to having to add one for every dialog I want to hide |
| 08:28.05 | slightlyrandom | Dialog Array! |
| 08:28.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Naw. |
| 08:28.26 | slightlyrandom | oh :( |
| 08:28.26 | rrowland | Isn't there a Show/Hide All Dialogs? |
| 08:28.28 | P_R_Deltoid | That would be the same amount of effort the computers part and it'd just end up being more complicated. |
| 08:28.31 | P_R_Deltoid | Apparently not |
| 08:28.35 | Clord | my monitor resolution is 1600X1200 so I got surprised that my trigger got tons lines |
| 08:28.36 | Clord | like that |
| 08:28.37 | Clord | XD |
| 08:29.07 | P_R_Deltoid | What does destroy do? |
| 08:29.14 | P_R_Deltoid | like, I can't call it up again? |
| 08:29.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Does that free up memory or something? |
| 08:29.26 | slightlyrandom | Destroy is destroy |
| 08:29.38 | P_R_Deltoid | it destroys the entire dialog, not just it's current show |
| 08:29.41 | P_R_Deltoid | Because they are only generated once |
| 08:30.13 | vjeux | ok, i managed to make a map no openable by the editor but playable ingame |
| 08:30.32 | vjeux | but this is fucked up since publishing is done through the map editor :( |
| 08:32.04 | heysparky | I had an idea that creating a generic unit and unit group would be useful and every time you need to spawn stuff and give it a one-shot order and then don't care what happens to it, you use the generic group and then reset it to blank when you're done... good, bad, no reason to do it? |
| 08:32.31 | heysparky | generic GLOBAL unit and unit group |
| 08:32.58 | P_R_Deltoid | is there any way to detect the max size of an arrya |
| 08:33.10 | heysparky | If IIRC I think I wanted it becuase creating variables is a pita |
| 08:37.42 | Werepenguin | How do I make a "No fly zone"? Can't get it to work :< |
| 08:38.36 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/2934-protecting-map/ |
| 08:39.11 | vjeux | P_R_Deltoid: there is no limit on an array size |
| 08:39.14 | vjeux | you just have a global limit of about 2 megs |
| 08:39.38 | vjeux | you can have an array of 2 megs if you want, but nothing will be left for your map |
| 08:39.53 | P_R_Deltoid | But is there a fucntion to check how big the array is, the arrays max size as set in the game. |
| 08:40.09 | P_R_Deltoid | for a loop to test until it gets to the last part of the array |
| 08:40.18 | Werepenguin | vjeux, have you tried opening the locked map with lazy launcher? |
| 08:40.20 | P_R_Deltoid | so if I add more items, I don't have to go back to the loop and add one to the end of the for |
| 08:40.35 | vjeux | Werepenguin: just drop the map inside sc2 |
| 08:40.38 | vjeux | it will load perfectly |
| 08:40.45 | Werepenguin | ah |
| 08:41.06 | vjeux | P_R_Deltoid: you have to store that in a variable |
| 08:41.36 | P_R_Deltoid | that is pretty gay. |
| 08:41.37 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh well |
| 08:42.01 | vjeux | well, you know it when you make the array |
| 08:42.27 | vjeux | and you really want to store it in a global variable so you can change it easily |
| 08:42.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Too lazy to go back and change so much shit, I am gonna hope I don't need to add very much to these arrays. |
| 08:49.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Is there any way to set fog of war to unrevealed? |
| 08:49.59 | P_R_Deltoid | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.59 | P_R_Deltoid | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.39 | P_R_Deltoid | I have pitch black fog of war enabled, yet after I reveal, destroy the revealer, and set visibilty of entire map to unexplored, it still shows all the terrain but no animations or units. |
| 08:51.21 | Clord | I see minor problem with this work around protecting |
| 08:51.27 | Clord | if I protect my map to not be edited |
| 08:51.34 | Clord | I can't really publish it lol |
| 08:51.50 | vjeux | yeah ... |
| 08:52.34 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/2934-protecting-map/ |
| 08:52.36 | vjeux | oops |
| 08:52.40 | vjeux | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Where is that? |
| 08:53.27 | Clord | so basically this work around only solves that when you share map in for example sc2mapster |
| 08:53.28 | Clord | XD |
| 08:53.43 | Clord | so it is somewhat useful information |
| 08:54.16 | vjeux | well, that's a beginning :p |
| 08:54.25 | vjeux | no one tried to protect the map atm |
| 08:54.36 | vjeux | that's a start of a solution |
| 08:54.41 | Clord | to be honest... blizzard is quicker to fix their protection system than we get strong protection otherways |
| 08:54.44 | vjeux | i hope to stimulate people to find something that's working |
| 08:54.45 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:55.04 | vjeux | protected maps are still protected in war3 :p |
| 08:55.15 | vjeux | don't count on blizzard reactivity ;) |
| 08:55.29 | P_R_Deltoid | but now they have a built in system for it... |
| 08:55.30 | P_R_Deltoid | sooooo |
| 08:55.33 | P_R_Deltoid | they may care a bit more |
| 08:55.38 | Sixen | So what's goin' on? |
| 08:55.45 | Sixen | Vjeux found a way to protect a map for realz? :P |
| 08:55.49 | P_R_Deltoid | In any case, I don't know how to make it black again and I can't find that function |
| 08:55.59 | P_R_Deltoid | remember: can't publish what you can't open |
| 08:56.00 | Clord | vjeux.. but community solutions don't work for protecting unless someone programs publishing tool what does not need editor to open map |
| 08:56.00 | P_R_Deltoid | catch 22 |
| 08:56.00 | Clord | XD |
| 08:56.06 | vjeux | Visibility - Enable/Disable visibitlity |
| 08:56.10 | P_R_Deltoid | I did that |
| 08:56.16 | Sixen | just FYI, the lock function does work |
| 08:56.24 | vjeux | oh really? |
| 08:56.28 | Sixen | It obfuscates MapScript.galaxy and removes the Triggers file apparently |
| 08:56.33 | P_R_Deltoid | Or... maybe I didn't. |
| 08:56.34 | P_R_Deltoid | Weird. |
| 08:56.36 | Sixen | and does some other things to prevent you from publishing |
| 08:57.35 | P_R_Deltoid | Didn't work :( |
| 08:58.49 | P_R_Deltoid | http://pastebin.com/fZGzdejp why would this not make the entire map blackmask again |
| 08:59.02 | Coldfusionstorm | ew |
| 08:59.05 | Coldfusionstorm | Protection |
| 08:59.13 | Coldfusionstorm | you should be amshamed! |
| 08:59.16 | heysparky | Deltoid - it's not run? |
| 08:59.17 | Coldfusionstorm | *ashamed |
| 08:59.24 | P_R_Deltoid | it's not run what? |
| 08:59.25 | P_R_Deltoid | What? |
| 08:59.27 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh |
| 08:59.28 | Coldfusionstorm | DRM in disguise |
| 08:59.34 | P_R_Deltoid | It runs, it's part of a larger trigger that sets other things |
| 08:59.38 | P_R_Deltoid | and those other settings happen |
| 08:59.41 | P_R_Deltoid | also, the revealer is destroyed |
| 08:59.48 | P_R_Deltoid | but the entire map is still considered "explored" even after |
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| 09:00.50 | heysparky | dang, was hoping the 'not run' thing would fix it |
| 09:00.52 | heysparky | :) |
| 09:00.59 | heysparky | I don't know much about vis |
| 09:02.02 | P_R_Deltoid | it doesn't make much sense, because I even set in the map settings that explored areas turn back into blackmask when they are not currently being seen |
| 09:02.15 | P_R_Deltoid | so even without this trigger, it should turn back into black after the revealer dies |
| 09:02.17 | Sixen | ~seen dustin |
| 09:02.18 | purl | dustin is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 7h 44m 15s, last said: 'Oh Hai'. |
| 09:02.19 | P_R_Deltoid | perhaps a bug? |
| 09:02.53 | heysparky | what are the defaults? |
| 09:03.03 | P_R_Deltoid | what do you mean? Defaults? |
| 09:03.03 | Coldfusionstorm | Error, brain_funtc does not compute.....BSOD. |
| 09:03.29 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 09:03.34 | P_R_Deltoid | I put a wait command, and it got fixed |
| 09:03.38 | P_R_Deltoid | so... I guess I was doing it too fast |
| 09:03.55 | P_R_Deltoid | and the revealer died and the map slowly started un-being seen, and then the next actions fired but did nothing |
| 09:05.04 | heysparky | ah |
| 09:05.06 | heysparky | good to know |
| 09:05.09 | heysparky | vis needs time |
| 09:06.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Purrr fect |
| 09:06.31 | Blue_Screen_idle | srsly, its depressing its so hard to make a unit that is able to just do a simple fire animation |
| 09:07.22 | Werepenguin | whaaat? I've never had an easier time making games than with the sc2 editor. It's awesomesauce..easy, yet so powerful |
| 09:07.39 | heysparky | SOME things are easy |
| 09:07.44 | heysparky | some are arcane as all get out |
| 09:07.50 | Blue_Screen_idle | exactly. |
| 09:07.57 | Blue_Screen_idle | i duplicated a helion |
| 09:08.03 | Blue_Screen_idle | and one shoud think |
| 09:08.05 | Blue_Screen_idle | hey |
| 09:08.08 | rrowland | Galaxy Editor is extremely easy |
| 09:08.11 | Blue_Screen_idle | i duplicated a unit |
| 09:08.18 | Blue_Screen_idle | not i have 2 same units |
| 09:08.21 | P_R_Deltoid | is there any way to prohibit camera change through scholling |
| 09:08.21 | Blue_Screen_idle | but nooooo |
| 09:08.43 | heysparky | depends on how you do it Blue |
| 09:08.59 | heysparky | and also, your pre-concieved notions of Unit-ness |
| 09:09.10 | heysparky | which I've learned I have to throw completely out the window |
| 09:11.35 | Blue_Screen_idle | pree-cons...does not compute |
| 09:11.36 | Blue_Screen_idle | damn it! |
| 09:11.44 | Blue_Screen_idle | i shouild go to bed |
| 09:11.47 | Blue_Screen_idle | bah |
| 09:11.58 | Blue_Screen_idle | afk, digging into editor anyway agien |
| 09:12.03 | heysparky | :) |
| 09:12.28 | Werepenguin | I found duplicating units a little tricky the first few days. But then I started embracing it when I wrapped my head around how things works. |
| 09:13.56 | heysparky | the 'unit' part of a unit holds stuff like hit points and stuff |
| 09:14.11 | heysparky | the 'actor' part of a unit holds the animations and things to do with the animations |
| 09:14.18 | heysparky | it's not that simple |
| 09:14.18 | Blue_Screen_idle | so you dont get annoyed by the seven different ground movers? |
| 09:14.21 | heysparky | but that's close |
| 09:14.23 | Werepenguin | Yeah, you should see the actor as the real unit |
| 09:14.43 | Blue_Screen_idle | just because you duplicated those units? |
| 09:14.43 | heysparky | I disagree with that, they're sides of a coin |
| 09:14.55 | Blue_Screen_idle | i guess you could join dubliate the actor tho |
| 09:15.06 | Blue_Screen_idle | but |
| 09:15.09 | Blue_Screen_idle | Werepengion |
| 09:15.10 | Blue_Screen_idle | tell |
| 09:15.17 | Blue_Screen_idle | I duplicate ALL form one unit |
| 09:15.20 | Blue_Screen_idle | incluing actors |
| 09:15.35 | Blue_Screen_idle | why the hell does the unit i copied dont have a fireing animation? |
| 09:15.39 | Blue_Screen_idle | or complete sounds |
| 09:15.41 | Blue_Screen_idle | `? |
| 09:15.45 | heysparky | that might be an easy one |
| 09:16.07 | Blue_Screen_idle | Enlighten me please, its driveing me nuts! |
| 09:16.20 | heysparky | in the actor created for that unit, there is a section at the top where you tell that actor what unit it is tied to |
| 09:16.25 | heysparky | token? or something |
| 09:16.37 | Blue_Screen_idle | yup |
| 09:16.46 | Wihl | http://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/sexophone.swf |
| 09:16.48 | heysparky | is it pointing at the right unit? |
| 09:16.49 | Wihl | cant stop :< |
| 09:17.06 | Blue_Screen_idle | yes |
| 09:17.09 | Blue_Screen_idle | ofc it is |
| 09:17.14 | Blue_Screen_idle | thats why its stupid and insane |
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| 09:17.32 | Werepenguin | Blue Screen Idle, you need to duplicate the actor to the effect as well |
| 09:17.44 | Werepenguin | And then attach it to the effect |
| 09:17.56 | Blue_Screen_idle | Ph |
| 09:17.57 | Blue_Screen_idle | Oh |
| 09:18.01 | Nuknfuts | starting new units from scratch takes some time but boy is it gratifying when everything works |
| 09:18.01 | Blue_Screen_idle | wait |
| 09:18.09 | Blue_Screen_idle | to the effect |
| 09:18.32 | heysparky | Edid you mean events, Were? |
| 09:19.08 | Blue_Screen_idle | wait |
| 09:19.09 | Blue_Screen_idle | what |
| 09:19.15 | Blue_Screen_idle | you can only assing one actor |
| 09:19.19 | Werepenguin | Well weapons have effects and the effect need actors to show up on the screen |
| 09:19.21 | Blue_Screen_idle | to one thing |
| 09:19.48 | Sixen | ~seen ShadowTiger |
| 09:19.49 | purl | shadowtiger <~4b198235@gateway/web/freenode/x-pjkcacfllhmphsqh> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 7d 46m 18s ago, saying: 'but usually in programming you drop the decimals... but i guess you must experiment!'. |
| 09:19.53 | Werepenguin | However, if they don't need to show up on the screen, they don't need an actor |
| 09:20.16 | Blue_Screen_idle | but |
| 09:20.26 | Blue_Screen_idle | The hellion attack bea, |
| 09:20.37 | Blue_Screen_idle | cant be attached with a token |
| 09:20.42 | Werepenguin | BSi, did you change the range of it? |
| 09:20.48 | Sixen | ~seen thedudeabides |
| 09:20.49 | purl | thedudeabides <~Jeremie@modemcable116.207-37-24.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 25d 15h 18m 58s ago, saying: 'that would rock'. |
| 09:20.49 | Werepenguin | the hellion that is |
| 09:21.19 | Werepenguin | Cause the hellion weapon is tricky. If you increase the range too much, you'll have to do some weird thing to get it working |
| 09:21.58 | Clord | yeah... I wonder why they just didn't make it editable friendly like other weapons |
| 09:21.59 | Clord | XD |
| 09:22.27 | Blue_Screen_idle | Werepengion |
| 09:22.32 | Blue_Screen_idle | thats not even what im trying |
| 09:22.41 | Blue_Screen_idle | im just trying to have 2 hellions |
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| 09:22.47 | Blue_Screen_idle | with one being a little different |
| 09:22.59 | Blue_Screen_idle | because i dont want to change the default(also because you cant) |
| 09:23.14 | heysparky | how do you want it different? in what way? |
| 09:23.17 | P_R_Deltoid | a little different? |
| 09:23.32 | heysparky | You can change the default |
| 09:23.36 | Blue_Screen_idle | like have different HP, and then a different name |
| 09:23.40 | Blue_Screen_idle | you can only change it a little |
| 09:23.44 | Blue_Screen_idle | from my experience |
| 09:23.46 | heysparky | if you edit the fields it'll spin off a 'duplicate' |
| 09:23.59 | Blue_Screen_idle | exactly |
| 09:24.05 | Blue_Screen_idle | and then its not the original any longer |
| 09:24.24 | heysparky | if that's all you want to do, just copy the unit and the basic actor and be done with it... I could be wrong but it should work (unless that's what you've done) |
| 09:24.25 | Blue_Screen_idle | so |
| 09:24.37 | Blue_Screen_idle | heysparkey, thats what ive done |
| 09:24.41 | heysparky | well, yes, but it behaves like the original |
| 09:24.45 | Blue_Screen_idle | and it dindt work. |
| 09:24.53 | heysparky | and for all intents and purposes IS the original |
| 09:25.29 | Blue_Screen_idle | thats the problem that is what it dont do |
| 09:25.33 | Blue_Screen_idle | ive somehow |
| 09:25.34 | heysparky | so you duplicated the unit and only checked the 'main' actor for it? |
| 09:25.35 | Werepenguin | BSi, here's what you do: Go to the unit tab, check what effects the original hellion has attached to it. You'll see like a search, persistent and a damage effect. Then go to the effects tab, search for hellion and check each of the effects and look what actors they have. Then go to the actors tab and duplicate those. If you can attach them by change that token name thingie, I think you have to do it through events |
| 09:26.01 | Blue_Screen_idle | hmm |
| 09:26.11 | Blue_Screen_idle | the problem is that the orignal dosnt work either |
| 09:26.16 | Blue_Screen_idle | ive broken it SOMEHOW |
| 09:26.20 | Blue_Screen_idle | i dont know how |
| 09:26.22 | heysparky | uhoh |
| 09:26.24 | Blue_Screen_idle | but i cant even reset it :/ |
| 09:26.32 | heysparky | did you tinker with any of hte hellion data? |
| 09:26.45 | Blue_Screen_idle | not really that much |
| 09:26.54 | Blue_Screen_idle | i changed the actor from the helion to a new unit |
| 09:26.55 | Blue_Screen_idle | and then back |
| 09:27.16 | heysparky | that might have changed things under the covers |
| 09:27.32 | Blue_Screen_idle | yeah, well, i might just have to improvise somehow |
| 09:27.50 | Blue_Screen_idle | it just annoy's me i changed it without even knowing it |
| 09:28.07 | heysparky | no question that that sort of thing is frustrating |
| 09:28.32 | heysparky | or fields where the tooltip says one thing and actually it affects more than that |
| 09:28.42 | heysparky | not that the tooltips could be novels... |
| 09:28.48 | Blue_Screen_idle | exactæy |
| 09:28.51 | Blue_Screen_idle | you change one thing |
| 09:28.55 | Blue_Screen_idle | and everything goes bogus |
| 09:29.16 | heysparky | makes it difficult, I agree |
| 09:29.23 | Blue_Screen_idle | but thats really my fault. |
| 09:29.27 | Blue_Screen_idle | and not so muc the editor |
| 09:30.08 | Blue_Screen_idle | it just still. gah, i dindt even detect it |
| 09:30.13 | Werepenguin | The crappy thing about the editor is that sometimes things don't work because of bugs. Sometimes these bugs are fixed by simply restarting the editor |
| 09:30.32 | heysparky | yeah, that's always a good thing to try too |
| 09:30.35 | heysparky | if something doesn't seem to have taken |
| 09:30.40 | heysparky | save, close, reopen |
| 09:30.41 | Blue_Screen_idle | yeah |
| 09:30.42 | Blue_Screen_idle | or save |
| 09:30.55 | Blue_Screen_idle | but ive tried that |
| 09:31.00 | Blue_Screen_idle | well, not recently |
| 09:31.06 | Blue_Screen_idle | well its worth a try |
| 09:31.51 | Blue_Screen_idle | the WORST thing ive tried tho |
| 09:32.10 | Blue_Screen_idle | was when suddely a exstra actor was appearing on allmost ALL my other units |
| 09:32.15 | Clord | stand back.. guy is going crazy |
| 09:32.25 | Blue_Screen_idle | o,0 |
| 09:32.26 | Blue_Screen_idle | who? |
| 09:32.45 | slightlyrandom | Damn you Wihl |
| 09:33.02 | Clord | it was simple joke |
| 09:33.04 | Clord | wall of text |
| 09:33.10 | Clord | ability not desire |
| 09:33.22 | Clord | and seeing things ;) |
| 09:33.37 | heysparky | Yeah, I've heard of the unit appearing on every unit actor snafu |
| 09:33.55 | Blue_Screen_idle | i managed to fix it.(somehow) |
| 09:34.05 | Blue_Screen_idle | but its scary as hell |
| 09:35.50 | slightlyrandom | I managed to almost fix a building animation for one my morphs |
| 09:35.56 | slightlyrandom | Now I cant remember what I did :( |
| 09:36.04 | Blue_Screen_idle | ;( |
| 09:36.29 | Blue_Screen_idle | is it possible to have 2 maps open at the same time? |
| 09:36.37 | slightlyrandom | Well |
| 09:36.45 | Durrean | yep, just go over the windows menu |
| 09:36.46 | slightlyrandom | They can be "open" |
| 09:36.49 | Blue_Screen_idle | because the helion works when i create a new mew |
| 09:37.02 | Blue_Screen_idle | hm |
| 09:37.20 | slightlyrandom | Dont think you can actually access data from two maps at once |
| 09:37.22 | slightlyrandom | Sadly |
| 09:38.12 | slightlyrandom | Wihl: http://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/sexophone.swf <-- this either ruins my day entirely, or makes it infiinitely better. I'll get back to you once I figure out which it is |
| 09:39.19 | Blue_Screen_idle | ahahahahahah! |
| 09:39.20 | heysparky | what the heck is that ? |
| 09:39.22 | Blue_Screen_idle | what is that? |
| 09:39.34 | Blue_Screen_idle | NOOOO its pop! |
| 09:39.37 | Blue_Screen_idle | too late |
| 09:39.42 | Blue_Screen_idle | not its in my head |
| 09:39.51 | slightlyrandom | Eurovision? |
| 09:40.11 | slightlyrandom | It's impossible to shut off |
| 09:41.10 | Blue_Screen_idle | no its just a pop song on repeat |
| 09:41.18 | Blue_Screen_idle | well, a clip really |
| 09:41.27 | Blue_Screen_idle | but wth, i like it' |
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| 09:41.37 | Werepenguin | I'd tap that |
| 09:41.38 | Blue_Screen_idle | i can cually feel im being recharged right now |
| 09:41.41 | Blue_Screen_idle | o,0 |
| 09:41.48 | Blue_Screen_idle | *actually |
| 09:42.06 | Blue_Screen_idle | Now lets get that damn hellion working |
| 09:42.08 | Blue_Screen_idle | YEEEEEHAAW!!! |
| 09:42.20 | Blue_Screen_idle | Dives into the editor to swuash that damn bug |
| 09:43.01 | heysparky | lol |
| 09:44.09 | Blue_Screen_idle | Now thats what i call pop! |
| 09:44.50 | Grum | slightlyrandom: he doesnt move his fingers o.O |
| 09:45.12 | Blue_Screen_idle | A1win,Skills when its better than bestest |
| 09:45.16 | Blue_Screen_idle | Whoops |
| 09:45.24 | Blue_Screen_idle | you know |
| 09:45.31 | Blue_Screen_idle | i think i just might turn the volueme up |
| 09:47.28 | slightlyrandom | My phone rang, and I sat for quite a long while wondering if I wanted to turn off the sound and take it |
| 09:47.35 | slightlyrandom | music* |
| 09:47.38 | slightlyrandom | loop* |
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| 09:47.50 | Blue_Screen_idle | i know that! |
| 09:47.55 | heysparky | Europe, America called, they want the 80s back. |
| 09:48.21 | Blue_Screen_idle | and your just sitting there "i dont want to stop the nice music" |
| 09:49.32 | Beider | hmm, anyone got experience with adding shield and shield upgrades to zerg/terran units? |
| 09:49.45 | P_R_Deltoid | what? America doesn't want the 80s back. |
| 09:49.53 | Blue_Screen_idle | well, i managed to get a shield on on a marine |
| 09:49.55 | Blue_Screen_idle | does that count? |
| 09:50.07 | Beider | I am having a weird bug, I add the unit to the upgrade and it works. It gets the armor, the icon changes... But it doesn't display the upgrade level on the icon. It just stays 0 |
| 09:50.54 | Blue_Screen_idle | i think it has something to do with requirements |
| 09:51.00 | Blue_Screen_idle | but thats were i gave up too |
| 09:51.17 | slightlyrandom | Upgrades only apply to units that upgrades apply to, right? |
| 09:51.42 | Blue_Screen_idle | i guess, that would make most sense |
| 09:51.50 | slightlyrandom | Like, check out the Unit tree thing, there is a list of upgrades at the bottom |
| 09:51.59 | slightlyrandom | If it aint there, I dont think it applies |
| 09:52.11 | Blue_Screen_idle | im pretty sure he has the unit included |
| 09:52.19 | Blue_Screen_idle | have you Beider? |
| 09:52.23 | slightlyrandom | I'm stabbing in the dark here ;) |
| 09:52.29 | Beider | yes |
| 09:52.41 | Beider | The unit actually gains 1 armor when the upgrade is researched |
| 09:52.46 | Beider | the icon for the armor changes |
| 09:52.49 | Blue_Screen_idle | how do you know that? |
| 09:52.54 | Blue_Screen_idle | yes the icon |
| 09:53.01 | Blue_Screen_idle | but that dosnt mean it gets exstra armor |
| 09:53.03 | Beider | hold your mouse over the icon and you see armor |
| 09:53.08 | Beider | it says Armor:1 |
| 09:53.11 | Blue_Screen_idle | ahh |
| 09:53.18 | Blue_Screen_idle | interesting |
| 09:53.20 | Beider | however that little 0 in the corner doesn't update |
| 09:53.35 | Blue_Screen_idle | i found a article about some of that stiff |
| 09:53.37 | Blue_Screen_idle | *Stuff |
| 09:54.36 | Blue_Screen_idle | wich i of course DINDT bookmark, even tho i tought so |
| 09:54.38 | Blue_Screen_idle | DAMN IT! |
| 09:55.26 | heysparky | gnight folks, see ya tomorrow |
| 09:55.38 | slightlyrandom | Ctrl+H |
| 09:55.39 | slightlyrandom | Good night |
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| 09:59.01 | Blue_Screen_idle | http://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/sexophone.swf |
| 09:59.05 | Blue_Screen_idle | watch it srsly, its good! |
| 10:03.22 | Beider | Anyone know if units can fire multiple weapons at once? |
| 10:05.27 | Lyrrad | sort of\ |
| 10:06.20 | Beider | I know you can implement a single weapon with multiple effects |
| 10:06.29 | Beider | just wondering if it was possible to make two weapons fire at the same time |
| 10:06.37 | Lyrrad | If you have 2 weapons on the a unit and the periods are less then the backswings, then both will fire at the same time |
| 10:06.45 | Beider | hmm |
| 10:07.02 | Soziopat | @Beider you should be able to get that effect when ataching the weapons directly to the char. Like two turrets on a tank or something like that. |
| 10:07.03 | Lyrrad | at least that is how I have understood it, haven't actually tested it myself |
| 10:07.36 | Beider | the problem is when you attach multiple weapons the unit only uses one, so the only way to really do it is to do workarounds |
| 10:07.43 | Beider | well I guess the best would be to create a custom weapon |
| 10:07.51 | Beider | and perhaps fire off each individual weapon as a weapon set |
| 10:07.58 | Beider | hmm, going to try that :p |
| 10:08.53 | Blue_Screen_idle | im sitting and tappinh my foot to the rythm of that beat |
| 10:09.05 | Soziopat | Well there was a Blizzard presentation when they have shown the Galaxy editor to the croweds, featuring an Ultralisk with 6 of the Zerg grounddefend things on his back and they all have been able to atac other targets and stuff |
| 10:09.07 | Blue_Screen_idle | i tink im gonna be a little numb some timersoon |
| 10:10.08 | Nuknfuts | 2 weapons at the same time? |
| 10:10.43 | Nuknfuts | they can't have linked cooldowns thats for one... and the two weapons need to be different |
| 10:10.55 | Nuknfuts | so you can't add a second Hellion flame cannon on and expect 2 flames to shoot out |
| 10:11.13 | Nuknfuts | ive gotten units to fire 3 weapons at once before |
| 10:11.37 | Lyrrad | Beider - I just tested it, and I could get a marine to fire 2 weapons |
| 10:12.27 | Lyrrad | If you set the backswing to be low, then both weapons can fire |
| 10:12.36 | Blue_Screen_idle | NSFW http://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/127555741364.jpg |
| 10:12.38 | Blue_Screen_idle | lol |
| 10:12.43 | Beider | Did you make each weapon track a separate target? |
| 10:12.45 | Blue_Screen_idle | that is WoW is about |
| 10:13.09 | Lyrrad | ummm, no |
| 10:13.10 | Clord | lol |
| 10:13.25 | Blue_Screen_idle | i found the finnish i think verion of 4chan xD |
| 10:13.44 | Clord | >_> |
| 10:13.52 | Clord | you sick... sick person |
| 10:13.54 | Lyrrad | if you want it to target multiple targets, then perhaps you want a search area on a weapon |
| 10:13.56 | Clord | ;) |
| 10:14.11 | Blue_Screen_idle | XD |
| 10:14.21 | Clord | yeah search area makes to hit multiple targets same time ^^ |
| 10:14.24 | Clord | or about same time |
| 10:14.25 | Clord | lol |
| 10:15.06 | Clord | once actually learn this data editor stuff it looks so simple |
| 10:15.15 | Lyrrad | yep |
| 10:15.27 | Nuknfuts | its all about the data editor~ |
| 10:15.45 | Lyrrad | it is intimidating at first, but once you start understanding it, its not that hard, and very powerful |
| 10:15.50 | Blue_Screen_idle | AAAAAARGH! |
| 10:15.52 | Nuknfuts | Beider: you want it to attack different targets? |
| 10:15.52 | Blue_Screen_idle | http://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/127555358896.jpg |
| 10:16.15 | Lyrrad | I dfon't think I want to look |
| 10:16.25 | Blue_Screen_idle | this one is not nude |
| 10:16.32 | Blue_Screen_idle | wait! |
| 10:16.32 | Nuknfuts | yes it is |
| 10:16.33 | Blue_Screen_idle | STOP! |
| 10:16.40 | Blue_Screen_idle | sorry |
| 10:16.47 | Blue_Screen_idle | "she" had pants on |
| 10:16.54 | Blue_Screen_idle | i forgotten the boobs after the shock |
| 10:17.03 | Nuknfuts | Beider: for the 2nd weapons or so off, go to flags |
| 10:17.14 | Nuknfuts | and turn off Only Fire At Attack Target |
| 10:17.26 | Nuknfuts | now each weapon acquires its own target |
| 10:17.31 | Nuknfuts | flip on Continuous Scan too |
| 10:18.12 | Lyrrad | sounds like fun |
| 10:18.13 | Soziopat | Uh, I see a new Idea for a teambased vehicle comeing up here. |
| 10:18.26 | Lyrrad | put like 200 weapons and all have them target independantly |
| 10:18.52 | Blue_Screen_idle | have you seen the AC130 map? |
| 10:18.58 | Soziopat | Mutli turret tank with each turret asigned to another play and let the try to defend the tank against incoming hords :D |
| 10:19.09 | Blue_Screen_idle | xD |
| 10:19.18 | Soziopat | *player |
| 10:19.22 | Lyrrad | well I need to get to bed, goodnight all |
| 10:19.33 | Blue_Screen_idle | Ahahaha! |
| 10:19.39 | Blue_Screen_idle | Sleep is for weaklings |
| 10:19.42 | Blue_Screen_idle | real men dont sleep! |
| 10:19.52 | Soziopat | And for those not in my timezone! :D |
| 10:20.03 | Blue_Screen_idle | hmm |
| 10:20.13 | Nuknfuts | unfortunately Soziopath, turrets require model changing |
| 10:20.24 | Nuknfuts | so you'll have to have someone edit it |
| 10:20.32 | Lyrrad | night |
| 10:20.35 | Blue_Screen_idle | night |
| 10:20.55 | Soziopat | No problem. That would be an interesting challange in 3ds Max |
| 10:22.08 | Nuknfuts | yep it'd be a 3ds thing |
| 10:23.06 | Nuknfuts | data editor actually has a lot of things in there that i wish people would take note of |
| 10:23.18 | Nuknfuts | rather than trying to make a new wasd or 1st person shooter or whatever |
| 10:24.18 | vjeux | Blue_Screen_idle: seriously you want to get kicked? |
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| 10:24.33 | Soziopat | Well, we'll see what's goign to be popular after the beta phase. The tenth pew pew 1 person map or a pretty well done 4th view with interesting conzept.. |
| 10:24.59 | Blue_Screen_idle | or o,0 |
| 10:25.05 | Blue_Screen_idle | vjeux? |
| 10:25.07 | Nuknfuts | my bet is.... some kind of game using the standard view :P |
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| 10:25.15 | Blue_Screen_idle | what have i done? |
| 10:25.21 | Nuknfuts | posting teh pr0ns |
| 10:25.32 | Blue_Screen_idle | was hardly porn |
| 10:25.47 | Blue_Screen_idle | the amricans call it "shock and awe" tatics |
| 10:25.56 | Blue_Screen_idle | *armericans |
| 10:25.57 | Nuknfuts | not my rules here |
| 10:26.06 | Blue_Screen_idle | and im not debateing them :) |
| 10:26.37 | Soziopat | I say, there will be some good 1st person shooters but the miority will focus on things like Hexed. Have you played that map yet? The new version is kinda awsome with the new UI and the skillable ataks. |
| 10:26.39 | vjeux | well, this is a place where people are supposed to talk about sc2 galaxy editor :p |
| 10:27.02 | Nuknfuts | i havent had a chance to check out hexed yet |
| 10:27.13 | Nuknfuts | i think the important thing is people focus on gameplay first... rather than gimmicks |
| 10:27.17 | Blue_Screen_idle | well, you seem very well versed in the editor, what kind of maps are you doing vjeux? |
| 10:27.42 | Nuknfuts | a good TD in the standard view will do a helluva lot better than a flashy first person game with shoddy gameplay |
| 10:27.59 | vjeux | don't have the time to work on any, mapster + school taking too much time :( |
| 10:28.21 | Blue_Screen_idle | :/ |
| 10:28.25 | Blue_Screen_idle | Well, fair enough |
| 10:28.47 | vjeux | writing news is a full time job :P |
| 10:29.08 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 10:29.12 | slightlyrandom | Pays well? |
| 10:29.25 | Beider | just finished 4 requests from the tutorial request thread in a single youtube video, wooo! |
| 10:29.36 | Soziopat | Wanna know where all the TowerDefence guys came from? |
| 10:29.39 | vjeux | i receive many love pms when i news people work :p |
| 10:29.49 | slightlyrandom | Can you take care of my request to sort out Unit Selection Prioritization Beider? ^^ |
| 10:29.50 | Grum | pfft :P |
| 10:30.11 | slightlyrandom | They crawled out from under most every rock in sight |
| 10:30.17 | Soziopat | http://oglaf.com/labyrinth/1/ |
| 10:30.18 | Beider | slightlyrandom: haven't looked at it yet, if it is in the thread I will get to it sooner or later |
| 10:30.26 | slightlyrandom | It ain't |
| 10:30.47 | slightlyrandom | I saw an unresolved thread where another guy asked about it as well |
| 10:31.33 | Blue_Screen_idle | hmmm |
| 10:31.56 | Blue_Screen_idle | i love that saxophone, it can keep me in trance for ever untill i fall alsleep |
| 10:32.07 | Blue_Screen_idle | meh, i should make some more tower |
| 10:32.08 | Blue_Screen_idle | s |
| 10:32.14 | Blue_Screen_idle | and levels |
| 10:32.45 | Soziopat | Yeah, need to get back to my map aswell. working for a friend of mine on a little arena thingy... |
| 10:33.43 | Azu | hey |
| 10:33.52 | Azu | anyone wanna play some custom maps? |
| 10:34.44 | rrowland | I put sniper wars up on EU finally azu |
| 10:34.50 | Azu | yey :P |
| 10:34.58 | Azu | gogo host :p |
| 10:36.21 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:36.24 | rrowland | EU is laggy :P |
| 10:36.28 | Azu | well |
| 10:36.33 | Azu | i dont have an us account :< |
| 10:36.44 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/vnsharing-tower-defense-ver-1-0/. VNSHARING TOWER DEFENSE Ver 1.0. MrZ3r0 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 10:37.12 | Azu | wow |
| 10:37.15 | Azu | this is a first |
| 10:37.20 | Soziopat | Wow... thats one confusing map layout. |
| 10:37.24 | Azu | noone online on my friendlist :O |
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| 10:39.30 | vjeux | the video at the bottom is pretty cool |
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| 10:52.33 | Nuknfuts | is there a way to extra data editor information into a mod? |
| 10:53.13 | Soziopat | No offense but: more Grama please Oo |
| 10:53.54 | Nuknfuts | like does a mod have to exist first as a mod, or can you export data from the data editor into a mod |
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| 10:56.41 | Soziopat | Oehm... tried to google it but haven't found a sing about that topic |
| 10:57.04 | rrowland | derhahaha my sentries are amazing |
| 10:58.07 | Azu | vjeux: battlecraft 2.5 :P |
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| 11:12.37 | Azu | 2nd time my teammate leaves.. |
| 11:18.26 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/buildordertester/. BuildOrderTester. skeldark (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 11:33.48 | Beider | New Video Tutorial: Requests from the SC2Mapster Forums: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMUXkve1IzQ |
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| 11:44.26 | Sixen | Beider, you should add sc2mapster to the description of your tutorials :P |
| 11:47.33 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sacIXxARpsI A little sentry AI action |
| 11:48.09 | Sixen | Wow rrowland |
| 11:48.33 | Sixen | That's really good :D |
| 11:49.40 | Grum | holy shit :D |
| 11:49.51 | RickA | Is it possible to check if there's a corpse nearby a unit? |
| 11:50.10 | rrowland | It's not done yet but it took like 2 full days just to get it to this point |
| 11:50.13 | Sixen | It should be, Rick |
| 11:50.32 | Sixen | Because "Corpse" can be chosen for Abilities and such |
| 11:51.11 | rrowland | They have 3 functions for forcefield right now |
| 11:51.20 | rrowland | 1) Cutting an army in half, which is priority 1 |
| 11:51.44 | rrowland | 2) Putting a forcefield between a melee enemy and a ranged friendly |
| 11:52.05 | rrowland | And 3) Putting a forcefield between itself and a melee enemy when it's under 35% hp |
| 11:52.15 | Grum | you could add more |
| 11:52.19 | RickA | Where is corpse in unit filters? Or is it somewhere else? |
| 11:52.19 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 11:52.40 | Grum | you could for example use forcefields to push your own zealots to the enemy (so they get into range |
| 11:52.57 | rrowland | Yeah, blizzard actually had some of those "set up" |
| 11:53.03 | rrowland | But commented out |
| 11:53.09 | rrowland | And I tried them but they went crazy |
| 11:53.13 | rrowland | And spent all their mana instantly |
| 11:53.13 | Grum | or putting them at an exact distance so for example colossi can beam just over them |
| 11:53.52 | Grum | or making a surround colossi raping :) |
| 11:54.00 | rrowland | lol |
| 11:54.04 | Sixen | lol |
| 11:54.15 | rrowland | If you move your colossi on accident |
| 11:54.19 | rrowland | They all get crushed |
| 11:54.37 | rrowland | :P |
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| 11:57.31 | Grum | would be awesome if you could position the forcefields in such away that you get maximum hits from a collosus :P |
| 11:57.36 | Grum | so squeeze them all into a single line |
| 11:57.55 | rrowland | lol |
| 11:57.56 | RickA | At that point I just laugh at how many sentries are needed |
| 11:58.08 | Grum | why? 6 should do |
| 11:58.34 | RickA | and you'd get a total of about 6 units doing that |
| 11:58.51 | Grum | or 3 with enough energy |
| 11:58.53 | RickA | Here's a hint: Sentries aren't good offensive units on their own |
| 11:58.55 | Grum | or 2 :/ |
| 11:59.09 | Grum | so? O.o |
| 11:59.19 | Grum | who said you should use em like that |
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| 11:59.30 | RickA | You wouldn't |
| 11:59.37 | Shadowclaimer | Morning sunshines |
| 11:59.37 | RickA | But that's what they become when they're out of energy |
| 11:59.44 | Shadowclaimer | Archons? |
| 11:59.58 | RickA | Using all their energy to get 6 units killed leaves you with a sub-par offensive unit that dies easily |
| 12:00.17 | Grum | 6 units? |
| 12:00.18 | Shadowclaimer | Yep Archons |
| 12:00.24 | Shadowclaimer | Except the 6 units part |
| 12:00.24 | Grum | just stop talking RickA:) |
| 12:00.44 | Shadowclaimer | Psistorm is definitely more painful tahn 6 units as long as you aren't fighting stalkers |
| 12:00.53 | RickA | We're talking about sentries |
| 12:01.03 | Shadowclaimer | ah |
| 12:01.09 | Shadowclaimer | wait sentries have a subpar offense? |
| 12:01.17 | RickA | They have what 6 damage? |
| 12:01.20 | Shadowclaimer | I've never used them, (I play zerg) |
| 12:01.25 | Shadowclaimer | I didn't even know tehy HAD an offense |
| 12:01.33 | Grum | we're talking about sentry ai doing forcefield tactics on a group of units |
| 12:01.53 | Shadowclaimer | every word you guys said basicalyl described High Templar and Archons too xD |
| 12:01.56 | RickA | Grum thinks its cost efficient to use two lines of forcefields to trap enemies |
| 12:02.05 | Grum | dude ... |
| 12:02.08 | Shadowclaimer | "Thats what they become when they run out of energy" "You kill 6 units then end up with a subpar offensive units" |
| 12:02.15 | Grum | i said it would be nice if you could trap them in the shape of a line |
| 12:02.21 | RickA | Archons are sweet offensive units AND tanks |
| 12:02.25 | Grum | so a collosi could have maximum effect on them |
| 12:02.30 | Shadowclaimer | maybe now, they used to be terrible |
| 12:02.40 | Shadowclaimer | At least I've never seen them properly used |
| 12:02.53 | RickA | You can only trap them in a line if you put fields on both sides of the unit |
| 12:03.21 | Grum | yes, so you'd need at the most 5-6 fields for it |
| 12:03.37 | Grum | depending on if you have terrain which you can use to 'catch' them |
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| 12:04.05 | RickA | You'd need 12-14 at least |
| 12:04.09 | rrowland | Sentries are actually pretty good |
| 12:04.12 | rrowland | And you don't need 12 |
| 12:04.13 | Grum | RickA: .... |
| 12:04.16 | Grum | you need 5-6 at the most |
| 12:04.35 | Shadowclaimer | Morning Mr. R |
| 12:04.43 | RickA | To trap units in a line? |
| 12:04.57 | Grum | i feel tired of repeating myself |
| 12:04.58 | RickA | You're gonna have to show me this one. |
| 12:05.12 | rrowland | They're never really used for trapping in a line as far as I've experienced |
| 12:05.26 | RickA | Right, because it would require too many fields being placed |
| 12:05.35 | rrowland | If I had like 4 colossi |
| 12:05.50 | Grum | they are really often used for trapping stuff tbh |
| 12:05.50 | rrowland | And the calm state of mind to make my sentries cast the forcefields perfectly |
| 12:05.54 | rrowland | I'd probably do it |
| 12:05.55 | Grum | at least on higherlvl games |
| 12:06.00 | RickA | Row, we're talking about # of forcefields, not # of sentries |
| 12:06.37 | Grum | RickA: if you cannot understand how to make a shape out of 6 forcefields which can contain units which can be shot by a colossi ... well .. it ends there |
| 12:06.57 | RickA | Just how many units can you contain with 6 forcefields? |
| 12:07.03 | Grum | as many as you want |
| 12:07.07 | RickA | Open up the editor and show me. |
| 12:07.21 | rrowland | Why do it that way though |
| 12:07.22 | Grum | remember, when you use a forcefield the units get pushed to a location |
| 12:07.26 | rrowland | Just get 1 mothership |
| 12:07.30 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 12:07.31 | rrowland | Get all of his units in the vortex |
| 12:07.34 | Shadowclaimer | rrowland has a point |
| 12:07.39 | rrowland | And then throw in like 10 archons |
| 12:07.44 | rrowland | Then when they pop out all of their units die |
| 12:08.00 | rrowland | Zap |
| 12:08.02 | Grum | mmm archons keep doing damage? :) |
| 12:08.11 | Shadowclaimer | What would be a good ability for a Pyro-type class? |
| 12:08.16 | rrowland | When the vortex ends all the units start out on the exact same position |
| 12:08.23 | rrowland | So the archon deals splash damage to all |
| 12:08.28 | Grum | Shadowclaimer: ability to drop patches of burning oil! |
| 12:08.34 | Shadowclaimer | Good but not fitting for this |
| 12:08.47 | Shadowclaimer | Going to keep picking your brain till you give me something so awesome I think "Why the fuck didn't I think of that" |
| 12:09.43 | RickA | A fire extinguisher that obscures vision |
| 12:09.43 | Shadowclaimer | he's a holy knight with a flamethrower called an Exorcist |
| 12:09.43 | rrowland | Flamethrower should be close-range only |
| 12:09.43 | Shadowclaimer | He gets an Incendiary Grenade, an attack whereh e sweeps his flamethrower massively and does bonus damage, and a napalm strike |
| 12:09.43 | rrowland | Do high damage |
| 12:09.43 | rrowland | And when you stop attacking more damage over time |
| 12:09.43 | Grum | what is the footprint of a forcefield? 3x3? |
| 12:09.48 | rrowland | It's like 2.5x2.5 or something |
| 12:09.55 | Shadowclaimer | I'm contemplating making the Ignite the biggest feature of the flamethrower and lowering itsb ase damage, sot he DOT is what really matters |
| 12:10.06 | rrowland | I never even checked in the editor lol |
| 12:10.13 | rrowland | But spacing them by 2.5 seems to work the best |
| 12:10.18 | rrowland | Maybe it's 3.0 |
| 12:10.21 | RickA | I managed to place 8 zealots in front of 3 forcefields |
| 12:10.36 | rrowland | Rick, you can squish units into forcefields |
| 12:10.41 | Grum | yup |
| 12:11.25 | rrowland | It'd probably take 10 or so to get a reasonable amount in there though |
| 12:11.31 | rrowland | Like, a gratuitous amount I should say |
| 12:12.02 | rrowland | But since sentries can cast up to 4 each |
| 12:12.06 | rrowland | And have no CD on the skill |
| 12:12.10 | rrowland | I don't understand the problem |
| 12:12.21 | Grum | well not even 10 |
| 12:12.27 | Grum | how wide is a beam of a colossus? |
| 12:12.36 | Grum | its 3-4 units wide right? |
| 12:12.40 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 12:12.41 | rrowland | But |
| 12:12.47 | rrowland | You have to stuff the whole army in there |
| 12:12.56 | rrowland | Which means you need to push them up into it |
| 12:12.58 | rrowland | From behind |
| 12:13.00 | Grum | which is not hard |
| 12:13.41 | rrowland | Sure, but either way it won't be done in 6 fields if they have a big army |
| 12:14.44 | Grum | sure you can |
| 12:16.37 | slightlyrandom | I'm quite impressed with what you've done there rrowland |
| 12:16.42 | slightlyrandom | That was a nice little demo |
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| 12:17.06 | slightlyrandom | This contest, how will it be judged? You pitting the AI's against each other? :) |
| 12:17.08 | RickA | Now I just need to make an AI that runs away when there's no pathing to the attackign unit |
| 12:17.23 | slightlyrandom | That'd be a must |
| 12:22.14 | rrowland | ty random |
| 12:22.33 | Beider | I am curious how hardcoded it is though rrowland |
| 12:22.42 | rrowland | It's an AI file |
| 12:22.44 | Beider | does it work on any choke or ramp on any map |
| 12:22.47 | Beider | ah k |
| 12:22.48 | rrowland | Oh |
| 12:22.51 | RickA | If I have a buff that stacks that has a duration and I stack it once, will the first buff applied run out first or will they both run out at the same time? |
| 12:22.57 | rrowland | It works on any choke on any map |
| 12:22.58 | rrowland | Yes |
| 12:23.08 | Beider | do the units automatically look for choke points as well? |
| 12:23.20 | rrowland | A choke point map is generated at the beginning of the game |
| 12:23.45 | rrowland | And then when looking for a choke point all I have to do is pass the x,y of the spot I want to find a choke for |
| 12:23.52 | Beider | but if you code it as an AI file, can they actually be included in maps / mods? |
| 12:23.56 | rrowland | And it returns the center of the choke, the width of the choke and the angle of the choke |
| 12:24.09 | rrowland | Not in GE |
| 12:24.33 | rrowland | All you have to do is put the AI files into an empty TriggerLibs file in your MPQ |
| 12:24.39 | Beider | aye but by packaging MPQ manually would b.net allow you to publish it? |
| 12:24.40 | rrowland | And it overrides the defaults |
| 12:24.53 | rrowland | Yeah I'm pretty sure they do |
| 12:25.02 | Beider | neat |
| 12:25.18 | Beider | the guys making the GE extension should add an AI modding tool as well |
| 12:26.49 | rrowland | It will be hard to pit AIs against eachother though |
| 12:26.53 | rrowland | Since they're not really modular |
| 12:27.21 | rrowland | It'd take anywhere from 10-60 minutes of manual labor to get each match set up |
| 12:27.28 | rrowland | And then there's still room for error |
| 12:29.27 | slightlyrandom | How do you get it to play against yourself, then? |
| 12:29.52 | slightlyrandom | I dont mean like have em play a mock game at 500x speed |
| 12:29.59 | slightlyrandom | I want to see what happens :P |
| 12:30.03 | Beider | Does anyone know if the guys making the Sparsile GE extension has a website? Or if there are any new news about it? |
| 12:31.15 | rrowland | Well you don't have AI |
| 12:31.21 | rrowland | It only initializes AI for computer players |
| 12:31.43 | vjeux | they should release their script first :P |
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| 12:40.22 | Wihl | http://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/sexophone.swf |
| 12:41.32 | RickA | Reminds me of this: http://www.hulu.com/watch/124875/saturday-night-live-digital-short-the-curse |
| 12:43.17 | slightlyrandom | UnitedNazis |
| 12:44.00 | slightlyrandom | Really cant be bothered to Proxy my way through the great firewall of America |
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| 12:56.25 | Bif | hahaha i win! |
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| 12:58.50 | Bif | Friend left his laptop here so i get to chat and play ps3 at the same time! |
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| 12:59.46 | Azu | snore |
| 13:00.02 | Azu | where are all they custom map players :<? |
| 13:00.45 | Cromalic | they're playing my map |
| 13:01.12 | Azu | :< |
| 13:01.20 | Cromalic | =) |
| 13:01.23 | Cromalic | are you US or EU? |
| 13:01.26 | Azu | eu |
| 13:01.30 | Cromalic | :\ |
| 13:01.45 | Cromalic | too few custom gamers really? |
| 13:01.50 | Azu | nah |
| 13:01.56 | Azu | its just more fun to play with people |
| 13:02.15 | Soziopat | Nah, he is just complaining that he not able to find someone to play with in an IRC made for designers ^^ |
| 13:02.21 | slightlyrandom | No, it is more fun to get utterly lost in the editor |
| 13:02.22 | slightlyrandom | Again! |
| 13:02.43 | Azu | Soziopat: :P |
| 13:02.45 | Beider | Sixen You here? |
| 13:02.45 | slightlyrandom | Getting annoyed with this |
| 13:03.01 | slightlyrandom | Compared to how easy the actual programming is, messing with the Data Editor is horrendous |
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| 13:03.26 | Soziopat | Beider! |
| 13:03.33 | slightlyrandom | Then again, it might be that my visual ambitions are greater than my gameplay ones |
| 13:03.34 | Bif | Data editor isnt that bad |
| 13:03.41 | Soziopat | Me love you long time! |
| 13:03.55 | slightlyrandom | Naw, once you wrap your head around it I imagine its quite nice |
| 13:04.26 | Bif | Ive done just about everything i need for my maps in Data rather than triggers lol |
| 13:04.34 | slightlyrandom | Crazy person |
| 13:04.50 | Bif | nope i just like it |
| 13:04.52 | slightlyrandom | Currently looking at changing the color of the roach attack |
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| 13:08.17 | Soziopat | @slightlyrandom: Check if the "Sustain-Mix" is what you are looking for (Actors-> roach->Roach_AttackImpactRanged) |
| 13:08.54 | Bifuu|3DDGH | this java irc isnt that bad atually |
| 13:09.29 | Wihl | >java |
| 13:09.36 | Wihl | >isnt that bad |
| 13:10.05 | slightlyrandom | Soziopat: Thats for sound, innit? |
| 13:10.09 | Beider | Soziopat? |
| 13:10.33 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, it is |
| 13:10.47 | Soziopat | That was just a guess :/ Haven't played with colored attacks yet. |
| 13:10.55 | Soziopat | Yes Beider? |
| 13:11.21 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 13:11.26 | slightlyrandom | There IS a color button |
| 13:11.36 | slightlyrandom | But it's set to White, and doesnt seem to be doing much |
| 13:11.53 | Soziopat | Mind to tell me where you found it? :3 |
| 13:12.12 | Wihl | er... wtf is this |
| 13:12.20 | Wihl | i tabbed out of sc2 yesterday |
| 13:12.32 | Wihl | had a sc2 melee map i was working on running |
| 13:12.34 | slightlyrandom | Roach Attack -> Roach Missile Impact |
| 13:12.38 | Beider | [15:03:15] <Soziopat> Beider! [15:03:30] <Soziopat> Me love you long time! ? |
| 13:12.38 | Wihl | now when I tab in I have a giant probe |
| 13:12.44 | slightlyrandom | It's likely for the impact animation though, not the missile |
| 13:12.51 | Wihl | is this a known bug or something |
| 13:13.25 | Soziopat | @beider oh that ^^ I've just found some solutions for some issues I had in your tutorials, that's all |
| 13:13.41 | Beider | ah ok, always happy to help :P |
| 13:14.04 | Soziopat | So, offering sex is an act of paiying respect to someone down here in germany XD |
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| 13:15.45 | Beider | I live in Germany but have not experienced much of that |
| 13:15.48 | Beider | must be a local thing |
| 13:17.10 | Soziopat | @Slightly: I found this RGB code insteed of a button Oo http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=sc2mapster |
| 13:17.29 | Soziopat | wrong copy & paste ... sry (255,255,255,255) |
| 13:18.31 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 13:18.37 | slightlyrandom | Doubleclick and you can change |
| 13:18.43 | slightlyrandom | But it doesnt do anything, most likely |
| 13:18.55 | slightlyrandom | I changed the color of the roach itself, by adding an event to it's actor |
| 13:19.01 | Stripe | hey Beider , where in Germany do you live ? |
| 13:19.24 | Wihl | Can someone explain this? I go to bed last night with a melee map im working on running (but paused) and tabbed out. I tab in today and see this: http://www.bluefriday.se/sync/Screenshot000.jpg |
| 13:19.43 | Grum | its the motherprobe |
| 13:19.49 | Wihl | obviously |
| 13:19.54 | Grum | it has milk for the baby-probes |
| 13:19.57 | Bifuu|3DDGH | lol |
| 13:20.02 | Grum | so they keep strong and farm hard |
| 13:20.03 | Stripe | lawl |
| 13:20.03 | Wihl | But I dont understand, its just a normal melee map - I havent changed anything |
| 13:20.10 | Bifuu|3DDGH | why would you tab out of a game that long anyways O.o |
| 13:20.20 | Soziopat | Looks like someone has been working on you station while you've been asleep. Happens from time to time to myself :P |
| 13:20.22 | Beider | Stripe: Berlin |
| 13:20.23 | Wihl | Bifuu|PS3 - I rarely close games :p |
| 13:20.23 | Grum | hmmm in that case i think it simply has constipation |
| 13:20.39 | Stripe | ahhh kewl I live in Gelsenkirchen :) |
| 13:21.01 | Wihl | so noone has experienced this before? <.< |
| 13:21.04 | Grum | but in all seriousness, its probably a simple 'oops i forgot the size' |
| 13:21.18 | Stripe | growth of nature |
| 13:21.26 | Wihl | It was normal size when i tabbed out :f |
| 13:21.32 | Bifuu|3DDGH | i have never seen it |
| 13:21.42 | Wihl | and theres nothing custom on the map, just the terrain |
| 13:22.09 | Soziopat | So a prode grows by a factor of 0.5 at night? But only during breeding sesion right? |
| 13:22.12 | Stripe | dude , maybe this probe got a super mario mushroom o.0 |
| 13:23.27 | Wihl | Soziopat - Apparently |
| 13:23.40 | Wihl | Stripe - :o |
| 13:29.10 | Bifuu|3DDGH | for those unaware, 3d dot game heroes is one of the best RPGs evar! |
| 13:31.59 | slightlyrandom | So you claim |
| 13:33.01 | Bifuu|3DDGH | pfft it is |
| 13:36.52 | slightlyrandom | Hah! I have Deepfrozen Roaches throwing Snowballs! |
| 13:37.22 | Bifuu|3DDGH | O.o |
| 13:37.29 | Bifuu|3DDGH | are you remaking snowball wars?!!?! |
| 13:38.11 | slightlyrandom | Naw |
| 13:38.14 | slightlyrandom | Just needed an IceTower |
| 13:38.41 | slightlyrandom | Snowball is only an accurate description, by the way, if you have an active imagination |
| 13:40.12 | Bifuu|3DDGH | o |
| 13:40.14 | Bifuu|3DDGH | poo |
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| 13:44.05 | slightlyrandom | (I gave the normal roach attack a different color) |
| 13:44.24 | slightlyrandom | For a snowball, you'd need to get hold of the old Fungal Growth attack animation, and change the color of that |
| 13:47.52 | rrowland | lol @ this game |
| 13:47.55 | rrowland | Don't move your ultralisk |
| 13:50.38 | Bifuu|3DDGH | slightlyrandom: why not photon cannon attack ball? |
| 13:50.57 | Beider | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.39 | slightlyrandom | Heh, good point |
| 13:51.41 | Bifuu|3DDGH | order maybe? |
| 13:51.52 | Bifuu|3DDGH | im just guessing |
| 13:51.53 | slightlyrandom | Order targeting point? :P |
| 13:52.14 | slightlyrandom | If you right click and move units into a bunker ingame, that works right? |
| 13:52.21 | slightlyrandom | So issue a move order and see what happens ^^ |
| 13:52.51 | Bifuu|3DDGH | i dunno |
| 13:53.55 | Beider | could try that |
| 13:54.08 | Beider | would have preferred to create them directly in the bunker |
| 13:54.58 | Stripe | you also can add the ability of the Terran HQ and use this while marines are near it ... maybe you can change it that it will put the marines into the bunker ... but this should only be used as a workaround |
| 13:56.28 | Bifuu|3DDGH | there should be a way to start them in bunkers =/ i coulda swore blizz said you could |
| 13:57.12 | Stripe | btw |
| 13:58.03 | Stripe | if you dont find the right triggers ... just open the map golem wars :D there they command 4 marines to instantly jump into the bunker at game initializing |
| 13:59.04 | slightlyrandom | CreateUnitAsCargo |
| 13:59.06 | slightlyrandom | Can be done |
| 13:59.13 | slightlyrandom | CreateCargoUnit, perhaps |
| 13:59.20 | slightlyrandom | I did it |
| 13:59.34 | Stripe | sounds smart :D |
| 13:59.45 | slightlyrandom | when I was young and stupid and used amount of units as cargo in a unit to check where it was going |
| 14:00.03 | rrowland | Hey |
| 14:00.05 | rrowland | By the way |
| 14:00.17 | rrowland | Do you guys know if there's a way to get the current destination of a unit |
| 14:00.22 | rrowland | When it's picked up? |
| 14:00.27 | rrowland | By a transport |
| 14:00.43 | slightlyrandom | Good question |
| 14:00.51 | rrowland | The standard AI will pick up a probe with a warp prism |
| 14:00.56 | rrowland | If it needs to get across a gap |
| 14:01.00 | rrowland | But it won't drop it off |
| 14:01.03 | rrowland | It just idles forever |
| 14:01.08 | rrowland | Like it picks it up |
| 14:01.10 | Clord | those cargo units are actually just invisible in same coordinates as loader |
| 14:01.11 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:01.13 | rrowland | And just chills there forever |
| 14:01.26 | Clord | I noticed it when I loaded it to bunker and tried to move |
| 14:01.31 | Clord | move it with keyboard controls |
| 14:01.34 | Clord | XD |
| 14:01.38 | Stripe | lol |
| 14:01.43 | Stripe | wasd movement on a bunker? |
| 14:01.54 | rrowland | Yeah bunkers just hide the units and redirect their attacks |
| 14:01.55 | Clord | that loaded unit |
| 14:02.05 | Clord | still took orders as invisible ghost |
| 14:02.07 | Clord | and moved |
| 14:02.08 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:02.16 | Blue_Screen_idle | Cough_cough,Processing enabled |
| 14:02.32 | Coldfusionstorm | Yawn |
| 14:02.35 | Coldfusionstorm | Morning poeple :) |
| 14:02.43 | Coldfusionstorm | Nice with a couple of ours |
| 14:02.43 | Stripe | hi |
| 14:03.30 | Coldfusionstorm | So, what are people doing? |
| 14:04.10 | Beider | slightlyrandom: thanks, knew I had seen it somewhere |
| 14:04.18 | Bifuu|3DDGH | playing ps3 still lol |
| 14:04.35 | Coldfusionstorm | lol |
| 14:04.38 | Coldfusionstorm | :) |
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| 14:05.08 | Coldfusionstorm | anybody interested in tutorials about requirements? |
| 14:07.06 | Beider | yep |
| 14:08.15 | Coldfusionstorm | THis is s specific guide about upgrades and requirements |
| 14:08.17 | Coldfusionstorm | http://starcraft.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3940 |
| 14:08.32 | Coldfusionstorm | and this is requirement in general |
| 14:08.33 | Coldfusionstorm | http://starcraft.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3958 |
| 14:09.00 | Coldfusionstorm | the first one is how i got my first upgrade working |
| 14:09.08 | Beider | cool |
| 14:09.18 | Beider | thanks |
| 14:09.24 | Beider | Might end up doing a video tutorial about the same thing |
| 14:09.29 | Coldfusionstorm | Cool :) |
| 14:09.46 | Beider | I think videos are better since you can see what is being done |
| 14:10.07 | Coldfusionstorm | it some cases |
| 14:10.33 | slightlyrandom | Text is easier to search through and use as reference, though |
| 14:10.50 | slightlyrandom | Also, indexable by google, and thus available |
| 14:10.51 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 14:10.54 | Coldfusionstorm | Yeah, and a well explained test, is really really good |
| 14:11.23 | Coldfusionstorm | im just si happy i found it |
| 14:11.24 | Wihl | a bad video is better than a bad text but a great text is better than a great video imo |
| 14:11.31 | Wihl | atleast for this stuff |
| 14:11.31 | Bifuu|3DDGH | easier to make video tuts |
| 14:11.35 | Coldfusionstorm | for me it took 3 minutes |
| 14:11.44 | Coldfusionstorm | then i had my upgade |
| 14:11.53 | Coldfusionstorm | since the only thing i dindt understand was requirements |
| 14:11.56 | Coldfusionstorm | after reading that |
| 14:12.01 | Coldfusionstorm | bada bing bada bang :) |
| 14:12.07 | Coldfusionstorm | i had upgreades :) |
| 14:13.53 | Wihl | Im just making melee maps at the moment, still a bit intimidated by the trigger and coding stuff |
| 14:14.01 | Wihl | last thing i did maps in was sc1 :p |
| 14:14.19 | Coldfusionstorm | id much rather do triggers in this than in sc |
| 14:14.29 | Coldfusionstorm | A1win,wtf |
| 14:14.32 | Beider | just came up with a neat idea for a SC2 map |
| 14:14.36 | Coldfusionstorm | goddamn it |
| 14:14.44 | Coldfusionstorm | who does your name allways slip in |
| 14:14.48 | Coldfusionstorm | uhh :) |
| 14:14.53 | Coldfusionstorm | what is it beider |
| 14:14.54 | Beider | Anyone played those battle bot programmer games? Where you program your own bot with simple commands and then pit them against other bots? |
| 14:15.02 | Wihl | I want to do some zombie survival top-down wasd-movement shooter thing |
| 14:15.16 | Beider | Do something like that for sc2, where you buy your bot. program it with simple commands, pit it against other players / win money and upgrade it, etc.. |
| 14:15.16 | Coldfusionstorm | lol |
| 14:15.24 | Coldfusionstorm | Sounds awesome |
| 14:15.37 | Coldfusionstorm | SO you mean like a battle areana for robots? |
| 14:15.39 | Coldfusionstorm | or something elles? |
| 14:15.40 | Beider | yes |
| 14:15.47 | Coldfusionstorm | thats a AWESOME idea |
| 14:15.54 | Beider | Like you start out with just the basic robot that you buy, then you yourself have to code some basic code like |
| 14:16.01 | Coldfusionstorm | speed |
| 14:16.02 | Beider | how should it move, should it just move in random directions |
| 14:16.06 | Beider | etc.. |
| 14:16.08 | Coldfusionstorm | yeah |
| 14:16.15 | Coldfusionstorm | and you could buy hardware upgrade |
| 14:16.23 | Beider | then once the battle starts you can't do anything with it, just watch |
| 14:16.23 | Coldfusionstorm | to make it physically stronger |
| 14:16.28 | Beider | yep |
| 14:16.35 | Coldfusionstorm | hmm |
| 14:16.37 | Beider | and you can even save the bots in the banks :P |
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| 14:16.52 | Beider | so you can keep making your bot more advanced each time you play |
| 14:17.07 | Ka[L]ekin | fun idea but people are going to spend most of their game time "programming" their bot? |
| 14:17.23 | Coldfusionstorm | i was thinking the same |
| 14:17.27 | Beider | well it is mainly for people with interest in programming, not for normal people :P |
| 14:17.31 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 14:17.47 | Coldfusionstorm | well, it would be more fun with normal mode to start with |
| 14:17.56 | Coldfusionstorm | then we could add some basic strings for movement and stuff |
| 14:18.02 | Beider | Maybe make it extremely simple to program the bots and then rather allow you to buy more bots and have a small bot army |
| 14:18.22 | Beider | so you spend more of your time planning what bots to add / upgrades to get and some time programming them |
| 14:18.42 | Coldfusionstorm | i think the idea is awesome, but when programming comes into play its out of me leauge |
| 14:18.54 | Coldfusionstorm | *my |
| 14:19.04 | Coldfusionstorm | id love to do upgrades and all sorts of other stuff |
| 14:19.05 | Clord | was just gonna tell spelling joke :/ |
| 14:19.07 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:19.15 | Beider | well it would be very simple programming like, "if enemy is spotted then face enemy, fire weapon, take two steps left... repeat" |
| 14:19.21 | Coldfusionstorm | Haha ;P |
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| 14:19.57 | Clord | me strong, me warrior, me primitive |
| 14:19.58 | Clord | XD |
| 14:20.00 | Clord | cliche |
| 14:20.01 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:20.07 | Coldfusionstorm | well, im going to the english examn in a couple of days, verbal that it but still :), i dont want to stand and mumble weird words :) |
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| 14:20.13 | Beider | I used to play it long ago when someone made a java app like that |
| 14:20.20 | Coldfusionstorm | "me smart"! |
| 14:20.29 | Coldfusionstorm | S M R T |
| 14:20.30 | Coldfusionstorm | SMART |
| 14:20.36 | Coldfusionstorm | While lighting the house with fire |
| 14:20.38 | Clord | RPG rules..... worser some race spell, worser their IQ is |
| 14:20.43 | Beider | some people just made bots that did "move one step forward, fire, turn random direction" repeat |
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| 14:21.10 | Clord | and more strenght they usually have |
| 14:21.25 | Clord | that is RPG cliche.... more stupid somebody is.. more strenght he has... if he is not human |
| 14:21.26 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:21.26 | Beider | hmm, i'll start working on my battle bots game once I completed some more tutorials |
| 14:21.43 | Coldfusionstorm | Sounds totally awesome :) |
| 14:22.22 | Clord | it would rock if some big company would bring game where you use flow chart to "program" bot |
| 14:22.23 | Clord | XD |
| 14:22.37 | Clord | there has been many attempts to do that but oh well |
| 14:22.45 | Clord | low budget stuff |
| 14:23.42 | Beider | I am considering just making it UI drag/drop programming |
| 14:23.55 | Beider | so you drop in an IF, then conditions and then actions, just like small icons |
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| 14:33.10 | Bifuu|3DDGH | sounds fun |
| 14:36.20 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxkAQb-TrQU&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:36.21 | Clord | lol |
| 14:36.25 | Clord | robotic dinosaurs |
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| 14:43.08 | Clord | hellooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 14:46.00 | egod | tristram RPG woot woot |
| 14:52.15 | Wihl | Is there any way to get a glass-type texture? |
| 14:52.40 | Beider | perhaps someone should implement some array soring libraries |
| 14:52.41 | Beider | for SC2 |
| 14:52.47 | Beider | could implement quicksort or so |
| 14:54.51 | Wihl | I've got a space platform and it would be cool to have a "hole" in the platform with cables and such running along it |
| 14:54.56 | Wihl | with units being able to walk over it |
| 14:55.25 | Wihl | is it possible to make something like that in a melee map? |
| 14:56.14 | slightlyrandom | Dunno, but I'd be afraid to use Siege Tanks near it :P |
| 14:56.57 | Wihl | ^^ |
| 15:00.06 | xttocs | http://smokescreen.us/ |
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| 15:04.55 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/kerrigans-fall-v2-0/. Kerrigan's Fall v2.0. Wunterwaffen (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 15:05.17 | AsaPhelps | ~seen RickA |
| 15:05.19 | purl | ricka <~Rick@d53-64-70-146.nap.wideopenwest.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2h 23m 47s ago, saying: 'Reminds me of this: http://www.hulu.com/watch/124875/saturday-night-live-digital-short-the-curse'. |
| 15:05.30 | Wihl | Do we know if blizzard will add more doodads with release? |
| 15:05.37 | AsaPhelps | Probably |
| 15:05.48 | Bifuu|3DDGH | for sure |
| 15:05.55 | Wihl | My space platform map looks so boring, I dont know what to do |
| 15:06.14 | Wihl | I've added a monorail, cables etc but the actual map is kinda eh =F |
| 15:06.51 | AsaPhelps | Add hookers |
| 15:06.53 | Wihl | a few boxes here and there :/ |
| 15:06.58 | AsaPhelps | Space hookers |
| 15:07.14 | AsaPhelps | I'm going to publish a map called just another porn map and see how popular it gets |
| 15:07.20 | Wihl | lawl. |
| 15:08.27 | AsaPhelps | Bifuu do you know how to give a unit an ankh/respawn type ability without triggers? |
| 15:08.37 | slightlyrandom | Wihl, take a look at ScrapStation or whatever its called, the "old" official map |
| 15:12.41 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZlBkWUYHTc&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:12.43 | Skizot | lol |
| 15:12.48 | Skizot | Bifuu|PS3 |
| 15:12.53 | Skizot | Bifuu|3DDGH |
| 15:13.03 | Skizot | i'm gonna model your hat for a ghost attachment :D |
| 15:13.48 | Clord | starcraft 2 would have used some dangerous melee critters |
| 15:13.49 | Clord | ^^ |
| 15:13.52 | Clord | in melee mode too |
| 15:14.18 | Hati | they come |
| 15:14.41 | Bifuu|3DDGH | ? |
| 15:14.43 | Clord | yeah but in melee mode lol |
| 15:14.45 | Clord | XD |
| 15:14.46 | Bifuu|3DDGH | lolol |
| 15:15.07 | Clord | take direct route where is invested by critters or avoid them but take longer to reach target? |
| 15:15.09 | Bifuu|3DDGH | ghost with a tophat = epic |
| 15:15.18 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZlBkWUYHTc&feature=player_embedded will for sure lag heavily on bnet |
| 15:15.19 | Clord | wandering critters what make people pay more attention where their army travels |
| 15:15.31 | Bifuu|3DDGH | AsaPhelps: uhh not sure off hand |
| 15:17.09 | Clord | Hati lol... gimmick |
| 15:17.10 | Clord | =) |
| 15:18.46 | Clord | it is like emulating MW2 for Starcraft II |
| 15:18.54 | Clord | expect MW2 it is enoyable |
| 15:19.57 | AsaPhelps | Wow that map is SC2? |
| 15:20.47 | Hati | well could be |
| 15:20.54 | Hati | Weaponarm = img = dialog |
| 15:22.27 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oJnDWxfZU#t=27s |
| 15:22.29 | Hati | nice :P |
| 15:22.39 | Clord | and enemies homing missiles |
| 15:22.40 | Clord | lol |
| 15:24.19 | Clord | there is some games where dodging is not made possible even tought enemies shoot rockets and other stuff |
| 15:24.27 | Clord | idea is to just kill enemies faster than they you |
| 15:24.28 | Clord | XD |
| 15:24.34 | slightlyrandom | I wonder how I managed to turn off portrait animations for everything |
| 15:25.13 | Hati | slightlyrandom: actors |
| 15:25.27 | rrowland | wtb exclusive rights to ghost wearing a tophat for sniper wars pst |
| 15:25.43 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 15:26.25 | rrowland | HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 15:26.37 | rrowland | there's a map |
| 15:26.38 | rrowland | on EU |
| 15:26.41 | rrowland | Called DotA |
| 15:26.46 | rrowland | ahahahahaha |
| 15:26.47 | Hati | and its empty ? |
| 15:26.55 | rrowland | It's a video of rick astley |
| 15:26.59 | rrowland | Rick rolled ahahaha |
| 15:27.04 | Hati | lol |
| 15:28.20 | exxor | how do you set the text color in a dialog label? |
| 15:28.20 | rrowland | It also takes away your UI |
| 15:28.24 | rrowland | So you have to alt f4 |
| 15:28.25 | AsaPhelps | Niceeeeeeee |
| 15:28.32 | AsaPhelps | actually you can f10 q or whatever |
| 15:28.37 | rrowland | No |
| 15:28.38 | rrowland | You can't |
| 15:28.40 | AsaPhelps | NO!? |
| 15:28.43 | AsaPhelps | even better |
| 15:29.18 | Hati | premium map |
| 15:29.21 | rrowland | lol |
| 15:29.27 | AsaPhelps | if you have a variable set equal to the position of a unit, then that unit dies, does that position get saved? |
| 15:29.42 | Hati | best would be if you can also block Alt+F4 |
| 15:29.54 | Hati | and ctrl+alt+del |
| 15:30.13 | AsaPhelps | if you upload that map, I'll upload it on US and name it "Just another porn map" or something |
| 15:30.40 | rrowland | Well I'm on US :P |
| 15:30.44 | rrowland | Just checkin out EU games |
| 15:30.45 | Hati | i can get it |
| 15:30.48 | Hati | name ? |
| 15:30.54 | rrowland | DotA |
| 15:30.57 | slightlyrandom | Hati: You thinking of No Portrait Talk ? |
| 15:31.20 | Hati | nah i thought you ment Unit potraits bottom near Command Card |
| 15:31.26 | Hati | but i guessed both use the same model |
| 15:31.27 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 15:31.29 | slightlyrandom | Thats the one |
| 15:31.37 | slightlyrandom | Its a different model |
| 15:31.53 | Hati | yea (None) will look like snow |
| 15:32.02 | Hati | and then there are static ones |
| 15:32.26 | slightlyrandom | I dont think thats the one it's using |
| 15:32.51 | slightlyrandom | They look to be too small, the static ones |
| 15:33.07 | slightlyrandom | Ugh, every time you think you're moving forward... |
| 15:33.23 | AsaPhelps | so whats wrong with this trigger |
| 15:33.39 | AsaPhelps | I have an array of 30+ points or so, 1 for each of a pre-placed unit |
| 15:33.56 | AsaPhelps | and I want a unit to respawn when it dies |
| 15:34.09 | Hati | theres no DotA |
| 15:34.11 | AsaPhelps | so I do create xxx at unitposition[x] but it doesnt spawn |
| 15:34.21 | slightlyrandom | The event firing? |
| 15:34.31 | AsaPhelps | It should be |
| 15:34.44 | AsaPhelps | the event is just when a unit uses an ability |
| 15:34.50 | slightlyrandom | I usually stick a ShowTextToAllPlayers thing in there |
| 15:35.33 | Hati | ah found |
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| 15:36.07 | RickA | Sup dudes? |
| 15:36.09 | AsaPhelps | well I changed the event to when I say something |
| 15:36.13 | AsaPhelps | oh good its ricka |
| 15:36.27 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 15:36.28 | slightlyrandom | Same old |
| 15:37.02 | RickA | Its good I'm here? Did you have more baneling ideas for me? |
| 15:37.14 | slightlyrandom | Stick em in a stew |
| 15:37.30 | rrowland | You should implement some kind of ability |
| 15:37.33 | rrowland | Where they blow up |
| 15:37.40 | AsaPhelps | how about an ability thats called mind read, and when that unit uses an ability or attack on the unit that cast mind read, he reads it, and takes no damage from knowing he was about to use it |
| 15:38.00 | AsaPhelps | then he turns into a baneling |
| 15:38.21 | slightlyrandom | That all sounded plausbile until the baneling thing |
| 15:38.53 | AsaPhelps | what if the baneling could read mines |
| 15:38.57 | AsaPhelps | minds also |
| 15:39.08 | depthsofchaos | hed be defenseless against you |
| 15:39.09 | slightlyrandom | Does banelings blow up if you step on em while burrowed ? |
| 15:39.21 | slightlyrandom | And if not, why ? |
| 15:39.24 | depthsofchaos | no |
| 15:39.28 | depthsofchaos | you have to blow it yourself |
| 15:39.31 | Hati | slightlyrandom: theres a auto-unborrow |
| 15:39.35 | RickA | No, because you wait for more units to pass over too |
| 15:39.37 | RickA | and hit them all |
| 15:39.44 | Hati | if you enable it they unborrow and explode |
| 15:40.08 | RickA | I got half of static cling working btw |
| 15:40.11 | Hati | if you used A-move + Burrow in row |
| 15:40.54 | AsaPhelps | so I figured out my problem |
| 15:41.14 | AsaPhelps | when I initialized my array I needed an event |
| 15:41.20 | AsaPhelps | because I thought it'd do it by itself |
| 15:41.30 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 15:41.37 | slightlyrandom | No so :) |
| 15:42.57 | AsaPhelps | what about changing the infestor mind control to where it periodically gives the guy control so he has to fight for control |
| 15:43.08 | AsaPhelps | a sonic boom that does knockback and silence |
| 15:43.13 | AsaPhelps | a morph |
| 15:43.19 | AsaPhelps | a vacuum that does something |
| 15:43.34 | AsaPhelps | generic elemental nova |
| 15:43.41 | RickA | Vacuum is just static cling I thought |
| 15:43.49 | AsaPhelps | yeah probably |
| 15:43.59 | Beider | did anyone test if banks have a maximum length for strings it can store? |
| 15:44.02 | AsaPhelps | a baneling thats on fire and explodes then respawns like a phoenix |
| 15:44.10 | RickA | Sonice boom could be nice... create a fast-moving projectile and have it spawn invisible forcefields to push units away. |
| 15:44.19 | AsaPhelps | then I wrote down |
| 15:44.23 | AsaPhelps | copy wow bosses |
| 15:44.28 | AsaPhelps | and copy other games |
| 15:44.39 | RickA | A phoenix made of banelings instead of fire |
| 15:44.52 | AsaPhelps | instead of feathers |
| 15:44.54 | AsaPhelps | it has banelings |
| 15:45.14 | RickA | But those banelings are phoenixes too |
| 15:45.15 | AsaPhelps | and instead of breathing fire |
| 15:45.17 | RickA | So when they explode |
| 15:45.19 | AsaPhelps | it breathes banelings |
| 15:45.20 | RickA | They come back to life |
| 15:45.27 | AsaPhelps | instead of a phoenix egg |
| 15:45.28 | RickA | Wtf phoenixes don't breathe fire. |
| 15:45.30 | AsaPhelps | its a baneling egg |
| 15:45.34 | AsaPhelps | they did in wow |
| 15:45.43 | RickA | Well wow is gay then |
| 15:45.47 | slightlyrandom | Hmm, might my Portraits be static because my videosettings have "Portraits: Off" ? |
| 15:45.49 | AsaPhelps | well they have a fire nova |
| 15:46.00 | rrowland | Phoenixes are made of fire, how do they not breathe it? |
| 15:46.00 | RickA | They have a gay nova is what they have |
| 15:46.15 | RickA | They breathe oxygen. How do you think they keep burning? |
| 15:46.20 | RickA | By living it a vacuum? |
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| 15:47.08 | rrowland | "breathe fire" is commonly accepted to mean "fire comes out of its mouth and shit bro" |
| 15:47.51 | RickA | yeah |
| 15:48.03 | RickA | They breathe oxygen onto themselve to keep the fire on them burning |
| 15:48.12 | slightlyrandom | No |
| 15:48.16 | slightlyrandom | They have internal oxygen tanks |
| 15:48.27 | RickA | which contain oxygen for them to breathe |
| 15:48.35 | slightlyrandom | No, for the fire to breathe |
| 15:49.08 | slightlyrandom | Wait, isn't it the Phoenix that has to keep moving because it needs to vent air over its flames ? |
| 15:49.26 | Clord | lol |
| 15:49.31 | slightlyrandom | There's an idea for a game |
| 15:49.39 | Clord | you guys try to make sense how Mythological Dragons etc would work in real life |
| 15:49.39 | Clord | XD |
| 15:49.43 | slightlyrandom | Speed: Keep the bus moving or it blows up |
| 15:50.18 | slightlyrandom | and you have to multitask to clear the way from debris and enemy units |
| 15:50.45 | RickA | Yeah, remake Blast Corps in SC2 |
| 15:50.46 | Clord | I would say that Dragon would have some complex system to make breating fire safe for itself |
| 15:50.47 | slightlyrandom | and every Random(2-5) seconds, the bus starts to slow down and stop after 2 seconds |
| 15:51.01 | slightlyrandom | So you have to go back and reissue move order |
| 15:51.13 | AsaPhelps | don't mythical creatures have to obey real world physics |
| 15:51.19 | slightlyrandom | Would that be fun or just extremely frustrating ? |
| 15:51.27 | slightlyrandom | Naw, they use magic AsaPhelps |
| 15:51.41 | AsaPhelps | blast corps was so fun |
| 15:51.42 | slightlyrandom | Magic makes it all a lot easier |
| 15:51.45 | AsaPhelps | also extremely frustrating |
| 15:51.59 | Clord | if magic would work it would become part of sciense |
| 15:52.04 | Clord | as it is explainable by sciense then |
| 15:52.05 | Clord | XD |
| 15:52.16 | AsaPhelps | I want to make a aos named science vs magic |
| 15:52.21 | AsaPhelps | or something |
| 15:52.31 | slightlyrandom | Arthur C. Clark; Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic |
| 15:52.32 | Clord | mako gun |
| 15:52.39 | Clord | it is sciense in FFVII world |
| 15:52.40 | Clord | XD |
| 15:52.46 | Clord | but how it operates is like magic |
| 15:52.51 | AsaPhelps | How doth this horseless carriage move without horses? |
| 15:53.05 | Clord | issue an order |
| 15:53.06 | Clord | ;) |
| 15:53.17 | AsaPhelps | Why does this glass have the power of the sun inside it? |
| 15:53.22 | Wihl | If i remove cliffs in my map so that there's nothing in an area, theres still like a gray texture at the bottom, how do i get rid of that (in the editor, not ingame) |
| 15:53.30 | Wihl | makes it hard to place doodads :/ |
| 15:53.47 | AsaPhelps | gray texture? |
| 15:53.56 | rrowland | how doth thine nontechnological robots meander through yonder window sills unnoticedeth? |
| 15:53.59 | Wihl | wait, double-checking if im retarded or not |
| 15:54.06 | rrowland | nano* |
| 15:54.09 | slightlyrandom | :D |
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| 15:54.39 | slightlyrandom | Whats does "Cannot be Clicked" do ? |
| 15:55.02 | slightlyrandom | Disable the strange sounds you get when you click a unit a bunch of times ? |
| 15:55.07 | slightlyrandom | The jokes and that |
| 15:57.03 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/cayotic/. Cayotic. loseyp (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 15:57.11 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/overcast/. Overcast. XGDragon (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 15:57.19 | Wihl | AsaPhelps - http://www.bluefriday.se/sync/greystuff.jpg |
| 15:57.43 | Wihl | I'm guessing its just me being dumb |
| 15:58.55 | slightlyrandom | Save, close and reload? :P |
| 15:59.24 | AsaPhelps | I don't think that stuff appears in game |
| 15:59.27 | AsaPhelps | try pressing v |
| 16:00.01 | Wihl | AsaPhelps - thanks. |
| 16:00.05 | Wihl | What does v do? |
| 16:00.44 | Beider | I heard rumours that there is a bug that when a player leaves, all the other players change their player number accordingly |
| 16:00.51 | AsaPhelps | change to gameplay view/editor view |
| 16:00.58 | Beider | so if player 1 leaves, then player 2 becomes player 1, player 3 becomes player 2, etc... Anyone heard about this? |
| 16:01.06 | AsaPhelps | I haven't |
| 16:01.25 | AsaPhelps | but what I did hear is some guy got his through impaled by a bull and the horn came out his mouth |
| 16:01.27 | AsaPhelps | and he lived |
| 16:01.33 | AsaPhelps | throat* |
| 16:01.38 | Beider | well deserved |
| 16:01.53 | Wihl | Have any of you experienced units getting bigger by themselves btw? <.< |
| 16:01.56 | slightlyrandom | Beider: That'd really screw stuff up |
| 16:01.56 | Beider | thats what you get for stabbing spears into a live bull, of course it gets pissed |
| 16:01.58 | AsaPhelps | I've heard bad things about player numbers though |
| 16:02.10 | AsaPhelps | I'm not a peta member |
| 16:02.23 | AsaPhelps | but I'm not a fan of bull fighting |
| 16:02.36 | Wihl | this is from a melee map that i left on over night: http://www.bluefriday.se/sync/Screenshot000.jpg |
| 16:02.43 | Wihl | Motherprobe |
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| 16:03.48 | AsaPhelps | lol thats pretty weird |
| 16:04.42 | Wihl | made me realise that probes would make good space ships :p |
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| 16:09.57 | slightlyrandom | So would observers if you remove the cloaking field thing |
| 16:09.57 | slightlyrandom | Make em easier to see |
| 16:10.59 | rrowland | So anyone on US join dota v0.1 |
| 16:11.16 | slightlyrandom | ;) |
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| 16:16.27 | WhiskeeGX | guys, anyone having serious issues with custom maps loading? (eu) |
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| 16:19.03 | wOlfLinG | Hi people |
| 16:19.07 | rrowland | Hello |
| 16:19.09 | wOlfLinG | or things. Whatever |
| 16:20.16 | slightlyrandom | HELLO! |
| 16:20.17 | Skizot | dota 0.1 is AWESOME |
| 16:20.27 | Skizot | i'm surprised at the hero count. |
| 16:20.34 | wOlfLinG | Theres Dota? O_o |
| 16:20.37 | rrowland | Yeah :) |
| 16:20.38 | Skizot | yeah |
| 16:20.41 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, quite fast to get such an advanced map out |
| 16:20.45 | rrowland | Took me a couple months |
| 16:20.48 | rrowland | But I got it out |
| 16:20.50 | rrowland | :) |
| 16:20.53 | Skizot | i am VERY surprised it doesn't lag |
| 16:20.55 | wOlfLinG | Not on eu servers i presume :( |
| 16:21.00 | Hati | good code rrowland |
| 16:21.04 | slightlyrandom | I think it's up there |
| 16:21.05 | Hati | it is Wolfling |
| 16:21.08 | Skizot | that is your rrowland? |
| 16:21.11 | wOlfLinG | :O |
| 16:21.24 | Hati | no its not Skizot |
| 16:21.25 | rrowland | Yeah it's up on EU too |
| 16:21.28 | wOlfLinG | how long has it been out? |
| 16:21.30 | Hati | rrowland stole map. |
| 16:21.37 | rrowland | Yeap |
| 16:21.45 | rrowland | But I stole it from a dirty european |
| 16:21.47 | rrowland | So it's okay |
| 16:21.47 | Hati | today ? |
| 16:22.00 | wOlfLinG | im thinking of doing a 'squad dota' |
| 16:22.19 | wOlfLinG | but instead of heros, you get squads of units |
| 16:22.33 | slightlyrandom | Maybe do both |
| 16:22.38 | wOlfLinG | maybe |
| 16:22.38 | slightlyrandom | Either pick a hero or a squad of units |
| 16:22.52 | wOlfLinG | hero would just be a powerful unit though |
| 16:23.03 | slightlyrandom | Probably hell to balance, but then DotA is as well anyway |
| 16:23.04 | Hati | DotA = Dance of the Astley |
| 16:23.10 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 16:23.14 | wOlfLinG | rickrolld xD |
| 16:23.39 | rrowland | You would be a horrible person to tell secrets to hati |
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| 16:24.07 | Hati | Yeah, i can't keep secrets - iam the perfect double agent. |
| 16:24.11 | wOlfLinG | Im thinking a resource value of 350 to start with, and balance the heros from there |
| 16:24.40 | wOlfLinG | btw, can we publish mods at the moment or not? |
| 16:24.54 | Hati | wolfling i recommend do your mod as Map |
| 16:25.02 | Hati | rename after you finished to Mod |
| 16:25.04 | wOlfLinG | ya. Just wondering though |
| 16:25.04 | Hati | SC2Mod* |
| 16:25.09 | Hati | and remove all unnecessary terrain shit |
| 16:25.15 | Hati | then it works |
| 16:25.21 | Hati | otherwise Publisher screws up your mod |
| 16:25.27 | Stripe | hay, can anyone help me? Im wondering what the custom unit value is good for... is it just for triggers to save some unitrelevant settings ? |
| 16:25.33 | Hati | as you have NO Author, Description and so on |
| 16:25.36 | Hati | in Mod-Mode |
| 16:26.25 | wOlfLinG | btw, what exactly is dota? Never played it due to lack of WC3 and SC1 xD |
| 16:26.35 | Stripe | defense of the ancients |
| 16:26.43 | Stripe | you play one hero |
| 16:26.44 | wOlfLinG | ya, i know what it stands for |
| 16:26.59 | Stripe | and you have 3 lines where creeps from 2 teams fighting each other |
| 16:27.10 | Hati | wOlfLinG: its a MOBA |
| 16:27.17 | Hati | Multiplayer Online Battle Arena |
| 16:27.33 | wOlfLinG | just heros fighting each other? |
| 16:27.38 | Stripe | wow did not even know that there is a category for this ;D |
| 16:27.40 | Hati | with some features yea |
| 16:27.47 | Stripe | well wofling... you can try out League of legends |
| 16:27.57 | Hati | or HoN - oh wait its retail |
| 16:28.00 | Stripe | its a free to play game and it has this moba gamestyle |
| 16:28.03 | AsaPhelps | I liked HoN |
| 16:28.05 | Stripe | hon is retail |
| 16:28.07 | AsaPhelps | But not enough to buy it |
| 16:28.10 | Hati | well |
| 16:28.11 | Stripe | I got it :) *smiles* |
| 16:28.15 | Hati | Skill based: BLC |
| 16:28.23 | Hati | DotA style: LoL or HoN |
| 16:28.36 | AsaPhelps | So I want to make a validator for my ability that requires a unit to be dead |
| 16:28.46 | AsaPhelps | but I don't see a validator field for the ability only effect |
| 16:28.51 | AsaPhelps | but its a dummy ability with no effect |
| 16:28.52 | Stripe | LoL = free --- HoN retail about 20 $ I guess |
| 16:29.00 | Hati | 30$ |
| 16:29.06 | Hati | preorder was lower |
| 16:29.18 | Stripe | ohh k |
| 16:30.14 | wOlfLinG | Btw, im thinking of making upgrades that increase the squads rate of fire and damage |
| 16:31.00 | Stripe | *push* Im wondering what the custom unit value is good for... is it just for triggers to save some unitrelevant settings ? |
| 16:31.29 | wOlfLinG | Could be something to do with custom resources |
| 16:31.46 | Stripe | whats thatß |
| 16:32.05 | Cyther | SC2 DotA is amazing so far. |
| 16:33.48 | Stripe | well I didnt play it yet but does it really comes near to HoN? which is a really great dota clone |
| 16:34.03 | Skizot | it's AWESOME |
| 16:34.07 | Skizot | you have to play it. |
| 16:34.10 | Skizot | dota 0.1 |
| 16:34.12 | Skizot | DO IT |
| 16:34.20 | Stripe | o.o okay okay xD |
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| 16:35.25 | wOlfLinG | hmm... Should i add viking or banshee squads? I want to, but i dont want someone to have an advantage due to having a flying unit |
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| 16:39.18 | slightlyrandom | Stripe: I am using Cutom Values to keep track of how far the spawned mobs are in the map |
| 16:39.46 | Stripe | so is it something like a variable for each unit? |
| 16:39.55 | slightlyrandom | A variable array, yeah |
| 16:40.03 | Stripe | thanks dude |
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| 16:40.25 | slightlyrandom | Flying unit is huge |
| 16:40.34 | slightlyrandom | You'll need to be clever with no-flying zones |
| 16:42.01 | rrowland | so this group I got in here |
| 16:42.11 | rrowland | was like... how do we skip this and get to dota |
| 16:42.15 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 16:42.23 | rrowland | I told him host had to type -apem |
| 16:42.26 | rrowland | So he typed -apem |
| 16:42.36 | rrowland | Then I laughed at him for being stupid |
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| 16:42.59 | slightlyrandom | You should have said something like "I dont know, it just does this sometimes. Try hosting it, it works sometimes :S" |
| 16:43.20 | slightlyrandom | You need to lure in more people |
| 16:44.03 | wOlfLinG | just so i know, is there an actual dota (and by dota i mean defence of the ancients) on the eu server, or just the rickroll one? |
| 16:44.37 | rrowland | join and find out |
| 16:44.41 | slightlyrandom | So |
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| 16:44.58 | slightlyrandom | Is it Firefox, Windows or sc2mapster.com that is broken ? |
| 16:45.01 | `3ICE | I passed my lit exam with an A |
| 16:45.02 | `3ICE | yay |
| 16:45.08 | slightlyrandom | Ugh |
| 16:45.10 | rrowland | nice |
| 16:45.10 | slightlyrandom | Oh, nice |
| 16:45.12 | slightlyrandom | Gratz |
| 16:45.20 | rrowland | celebrate with some sc2 dota |
| 16:45.23 | `3ICE | i soo hate literature :( |
| 16:45.27 | AsaPhelps | lol I wonder how long that dota thing took |
| 16:45.31 | AsaPhelps | the load screen |
| 16:46.15 | AsaPhelps | Doth though not knowest the importance of mastery of the language? |
| 16:47.22 | wOlfLinG | how do i increase the size of my map? |
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| 16:47.38 | AsaPhelps | So I want the health of a unit to increase for every structure on a map, does that sound like behaviors or would triggers be easier? |
| 16:47.45 | AsaPhelps | map bounds |
| 16:48.22 | Vophsix | triggers would be easier |
| 16:49.32 | slightlyrandom | Triggers are ALWAYS easier |
| 16:50.32 | AsaPhelps | What if you want to make a unit attack |
| 16:51.08 | Vophsix | what's the event? |
| 16:51.27 | AsaPhelps | well triggers aren't always easier |
| 16:51.59 | Vophsix | the real point is that triggers can't always do what the data editor can and vice versa |
| 16:52.12 | AsaPhelps | yeah |
| 16:52.13 | AsaPhelps | so anyway |
| 16:52.20 | AsaPhelps | I'm not very good with triggers |
| 16:52.51 | AsaPhelps | So I have a unit owned by one player which all players have to defend |
| 16:53.05 | AsaPhelps | and whenever allies of those player or that player builds a structure, it gets more health |
| 16:53.34 | slightlyrandom | yeah |
| 16:53.50 | slightlyrandom | trigger it |
| 16:54.02 | AsaPhelps | unit builds xx, unit gets maxlife +50? |
| 16:54.13 | slightlyrandom | Event UnitConstructionProgress Finish |
| 16:54.21 | Vophsix | always use a generic event |
| 16:54.25 | slightlyrandom | Action SetUnitHp |
| 16:54.27 | Vophsix | and use the condition to test it |
| 16:54.43 | AsaPhelps | but I want to make it also if that structure dies it loses health |
| 16:54.51 | AsaPhelps | let me try a few things |
| 16:55.03 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 16:55.10 | slightlyrandom | I am way more comfortable in the trigger world |
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| 16:55.18 | HelixDnB | what's going on everyone? |
| 16:55.20 | slightlyrandom | It doesnt have any weird connections I have to know about to make stuff work |
| 16:55.22 | rrowland | hey |
| 16:55.25 | slightlyrandom | hi there |
| 16:55.26 | Vophsix | hey |
| 16:55.48 | wOlfLinG | hi |
| 16:56.06 | AsaPhelps | good afternoon young sir |
| 16:56.42 | Vophsix | how's the mod going helix? |
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| 16:59.28 | Skizot | OMGOMGOMGOMG BETA TESTING ANIMATION EXPORTING |
| 16:59.31 | Skizot | OMGOMGOMG |
| 16:59.45 | nicoli_s | sweet\ |
| 17:00.47 | Judgment38 | This is a dark day for custom maps |
| 17:00.55 | slightlyrandom | Did Jesus die? |
| 17:01.01 | rrowland | again? |
| 17:01.12 | slightlyrandom | What do you mean "again"? |
| 17:01.17 | slightlyrandom | He died? |
| 17:01.21 | Vophsix | ... |
| 17:01.23 | slightlyrandom | Oh my GOD HE DIED DIDNT HE! |
| 17:01.32 | slightlyrandom | well, thanks for spoiling the bible, jerk |
| 17:01.37 | Soziopat | I allready know what you are goign to explain in your todays tutorial Skizot when you are successfull :D |
| 17:01.40 | Judgment38 | Much worse... Starcraft 2 has been fate'd to years of rick roll |
| 17:01.49 | rrowland | B) |
| 17:02.45 | wOlfLinG | how would i check if player 1 has units on the map and place a unit next to that unit, or at a specified point if he has none? |
| 17:03.33 | Vophsix | if then else |
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| 17:04.12 | wOlfLinG | Tried that. Doesnt seem to be a way to check if the units = 0 |
| 17:04.34 | Vophsix | pick every unit in entire map owned by player |
| 17:04.43 | Vophsix | if picked unit = no unit |
| 17:05.13 | Judgment38 | So is anyone out there working on a D-Day map? |
| 17:05.16 | WhiskeeGX | appearently, B.net can't handle player banks with more than 35-40 keys stored. The game doesn't load. |
| 17:05.21 | Judgment38 | They've got the doodads for it |
| 17:05.22 | WhiskeeGX | are they f'ing kidding me |
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| 17:05.34 | rrowland | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25172120704&sid=5000 |
| 17:05.58 | Reactorex | If (Number of Units in Unit Group (Units in Region Matching Condition (( Playable Map Area, Player 1 <-- These are just filter thingers )) >= 1 ) Then (Pick All Units in Unit Group (Units in Region Matching Condition (( Playable Map Area, Player 1 )) ) and Do ( Create [unithere] at Position of Picked Unit ) ) Else (Create [unithere] at [My Point] ) |
| 17:06.03 | Reactorex | That answer your Q, wolfling? |
| 17:07.05 | AsaPhelps | Is "Choose your defense" bugged? |
| 17:07.15 | AsaPhelps | The lobby gets fool then I get kicked to the custom maps page |
| 17:07.20 | AsaPhelps | wow full* |
| 17:07.52 | wOlfLinG | yep, ty |
| 17:08.19 | wOlfLinG | I forgot to add the number of units in unit group, so couldnt compare it to a number xD |
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| 17:10.28 | Judgment38 | how do I make it so a unit blocks vision of what's behind it... like a doodad? |
| 17:10.56 | Xan | is there any way to edit unit pathing? e.g make units path around a region |
| 17:11.16 | Vophsix | press H Xan |
| 17:12.13 | vjeux | rrowland: wtf? |
| 17:13.03 | Xan | how do I make a unit path around a region, if you order it to the other side of it, but path through the region if you order inside the region? |
| 17:13.07 | Xan | hard question :) |
| 17:13.54 | Tehwildcard | Where the hell do I remove unit cost |
| 17:14.08 | Clord | lol |
| 17:14.12 | Clord | ability stuff |
| 17:15.33 | HelixDnB | so I present to you - a problem: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2907-regarding-attaching-structures-units-together-and-footprints/#p2 |
| 17:15.42 | HelixDnB | any ideas? |
| 17:19.56 | Vophsix | unit position x modulo 5 = 0 |
| 17:20.02 | Vophsix | same for y |
| 17:20.14 | HelixDnB | what? |
| 17:20.22 | Vophsix | under math |
| 17:20.30 | Orbiter_ | So, did anyone get rick roll'd yet? |
| 17:20.33 | Skizot | OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGFRONTFLIPPINMARINEOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG |
| 17:20.41 | Vophsix | if x is divided by 5 with a remainder of 0 |
| 17:20.42 | HelixDnB | nice skiz |
| 17:20.53 | nicoli_s | skizot: screenshots or it didnt happen |
| 17:21.08 | Skizot | i need to integreat him into society. |
| 17:21.34 | HelixDnB | voph, but what do I do with that information? |
| 17:22.18 | Dustin | Well I jsut got rick rolled in a SC2 Map... |
| 17:22.19 | Dustin | great |
| 17:22.26 | Vophsix | you are using the event unit uses ability? |
| 17:22.40 | Vophsix | ability = build |
| 17:22.58 | HelixDnB | well I haven't even started on the units part yet tbh |
| 17:23.00 | nicoli_s | dustin? how? |
| 17:23.06 | Dustin | Someone Made a Dota Map |
| 17:23.14 | Dustin | And it's jsut a flash video of Rick roll |
| 17:23.19 | HelixDnB | hah |
| 17:23.23 | nicoli_s | in game? |
| 17:23.26 | Dustin | ya |
| 17:23.29 | HelixDnB | that's awesome |
| 17:23.32 | vjeux | lool :p |
| 17:23.34 | Dustin | You can play flash vids in game :P |
| 17:23.39 | vjeux | need someone to screen it |
| 17:23.45 | vjeux | and make it in the next news |
| 17:23.58 | Skizot | rrowland did it |
| 17:24.05 | HelixDnB | I'd rather not |
| 17:24.14 | HelixDnB | because then we'll have a ton of these dumb maps |
| 17:24.16 | rrowland | I didn't make it |
| 17:24.20 | HelixDnB | which are just videos |
| 17:24.20 | DarkPrince | Its probably bad that that was my first map idea... just never actually did it. |
| 17:24.20 | rrowland | I borrowed it from EU |
| 17:24.40 | HelixDnB | anyway, voph, you put the math where? in the build area? |
| 17:24.52 | Vophsix | no it's triggers |
| 17:25.14 | HelixDnB | hmm |
| 17:25.33 | HelixDnB | I guess I'll have to wait til I'm at home |
| 17:25.39 | Vophsix | to unit uses ability to build a structure - if it's not on the grid of 5 (or however much you want) - cancel the build order |
| 17:25.42 | HelixDnB | and have the editor in front of me |
| 17:25.50 | HelixDnB | ok |
| 17:25.54 | HelixDnB | now with that in mind |
| 17:26.09 | HelixDnB | any attached structures |
| 17:26.26 | HelixDnB | does the same logic apply to them as well in adjacent grid spaces? |
| 17:26.42 | Vophsix | attached like tech lab attached? |
| 17:26.59 | HelixDnB | nah like |
| 17:26.59 | HelixDnB | in those images |
| 17:27.11 | HelixDnB | each one of those squares would be like, say a barracks |
| 17:27.15 | Beider | anyone used the "Slider" dialog item? |
| 17:27.25 | HelixDnB | 4 barracks attached in a square arrangement |
| 17:27.28 | HelixDnB | 2x2 |
| 17:27.57 | Vophsix | how are they built? |
| 17:28.04 | HelixDnB | by a player |
| 17:28.06 | HelixDnB | like |
| 17:28.07 | HelixDnB | ok |
| 17:28.13 | HelixDnB | trying not to reveal what I'm doing here haha |
| 17:28.52 | Xan | is it possible to have a unit path around a region, but able to enter the region if you order it inside it (then it will path normally)? |
| 17:28.54 | HelixDnB | you have a "structure" for instance - that's comprised of 4 barracks attached to each other, in a 2x2 square arrangement |
| 17:29.01 | rrowland | Hey vjeux I got a video of the map for your news http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=fvsr |
| 17:29.24 | HelixDnB | you can place the structure on the map but it has to be done according to the grid |
| 17:29.34 | Vophsix | and places all four at once? |
| 17:29.41 | vjeux | rrowland: who's the original author? |
| 17:29.43 | HelixDnB | yes, because they're attached to each other |
| 17:29.51 | HelixDnB | so it's 1 structure |
| 17:29.52 | rrowland | Something with a K |
| 17:30.06 | Vophsix | so it's just one unit? |
| 17:30.16 | rrowland | I'll log on bnet and check |
| 17:30.17 | HelixDnB | yes, spread over 4 of these grid squares |
| 17:30.20 | Vophsix | with one placement footprint |
| 17:30.26 | HelixDnB | no |
| 17:30.38 | HelixDnB | each of the small barracks have their own footprint |
| 17:31.12 | Vophsix | how is the placing done then -scv or trigger? |
| 17:31.14 | HelixDnB | voph, have you ever played with legos? |
| 17:31.22 | rrowland | vjeux: Zymoran on EU |
| 17:31.27 | Vophsix | yeah |
| 17:31.38 | HelixDnB | think of it like that |
| 17:31.42 | vjeux | thanks |
| 17:31.58 | HelixDnB | you have a square, a rectangle, etc |
| 17:32.11 | HelixDnB | and they have to be put on this lego grid |
| 17:32.15 | HelixDnB | like they have to fit on the grid |
| 17:32.17 | HelixDnB | of pegs |
| 17:32.30 | Vophsix | that is what happens anyway ^^ |
| 17:32.37 | Vophsix | with placement footprint |
| 17:32.46 | HelixDnB | no I know, but I'm enlarging the original grid so to speak |
| 17:33.10 | Vophsix | well you could just enlarge the placement grid? |
| 17:33.20 | HelixDnB | how? |
| 17:33.49 | Vophsix | you have pathing footprint |
| 17:34.00 | HelixDnB | right |
| 17:34.00 | Vophsix | and pathing footprint - placement |
| 17:34.04 | Vophsix | in the unit data |
| 17:34.04 | HelixDnB | ok |
| 17:34.09 | HelixDnB | yea I know that part |
| 17:34.31 | WhiskeeGX | actual video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-7iorJ5HTU |
| 17:34.33 | WhiskeeGX | gogo news |
| 17:34.38 | HelixDnB | so then I'd change the footprint placement? |
| 17:35.16 | Vophsix | thinking... |
| 17:35.26 | HelixDnB | cause it's absolutely essential that the grid structure is adhered to |
| 17:35.31 | HelixDnB | otherwise my mod doesn't work |
| 17:35.58 | HelixDnB | like, the unit can't be in between 2 of the larger grid squares |
| 17:36.10 | vjeux | thanks WhiskeeGX |
| 17:36.27 | wOlfLinG | Is there any way to make a unit with the same name as a region spawn? I dont want to have to do the same thing 20 times :( |
| 17:37.25 | HelixDnB | so voph, do you have the map editor up? |
| 17:37.31 | Vophsix | yeah |
| 17:37.35 | HelixDnB | I can explain how it needs to function |
| 17:37.36 | HelixDnB | make a new map |
| 17:37.36 | HelixDnB | ok |
| 17:38.11 | HelixDnB | now make a region - square, double click on the region, make size 4x4 |
| 17:38.24 | HelixDnB | copy that region, and move it adjacent to the left of the first region |
| 17:38.52 | HelixDnB | copy both of those regions and make them adjacent to the other 2, but below the original 2 regions |
| 17:39.04 | HelixDnB | so that you have a 2x2 square of regions that are 4x4 in size |
| 17:39.20 | HelixDnB | tell me when you're done |
| 17:39.50 | Vophsix | yeah ive got what you mean - building take big steps - units take small? |
| 17:39.57 | HelixDnB | no |
| 17:40.06 | Vophsix | kk lol |
| 17:40.10 | Vophsix | carry on |
| 17:40.16 | HelixDnB | all buildings and units take the same footprint size - 1 of those regions |
| 17:40.25 | HelixDnB | regardless of if they're attached to each other or not |
| 17:40.41 | HelixDnB | a unit can't be built in between 2 regions |
| 17:40.54 | HelixDnB | or outside of any regions |
| 17:41.04 | Vophsix | sure |
| 17:41.08 | HelixDnB | if you have 2 units attached to each other |
| 17:41.15 | HelixDnB | each of those units has to reside in only 1 region |
| 17:41.26 | HelixDnB | so each would reside in 1 adjacent region |
| 17:42.07 | HelixDnB | like, barracks 1 - 1 solitary barracks, barracks 2 - 2 barracks attached to each other, 1 above the other, barracks 4 - 4 barracks attached to each other arranged in a square |
| 17:42.33 | HelixDnB | barracks 1 - 1 region, barracks 2, 2 regions, barracks 4 - 4 regions |
| 17:42.39 | HelixDnB | get it now? |
| 17:42.45 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mimic-ai/. [AI Contest] Mimic AI. Callex (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 17:42.55 | Vophsix | yeah I was just thinking you were having the unit in then smaller regions |
| 17:43.31 | HelixDnB | nah, each of the regions is the same size, it's just a matter of restricting placement in a specific way |
| 17:44.41 | WhiskeeGX | what's the current known limit for .sc2bank keys? |
| 17:46.19 | Clord | 50 entries |
| 17:46.22 | Clord | total |
| 17:46.23 | Clord | XD |
| 17:46.26 | Clord | or so somebody mentioned |
| 17:46.27 | HelixDnB | that's retarded |
| 17:46.32 | WhiskeeGX | 50 exactly? |
| 17:47.10 | HelixDnB | voph, any ideas? |
| 17:47.12 | Soziopat | Wuhu! Got my Marines saying: "Did somebody order the rape?" |
| 17:47.14 | Clord | people has already figured methods around that limit like.... making single entry per hero character and put as string every item it has |
| 17:47.39 | WhiskeeGX | unfortunately that wouldn't work for my map, but ye I have 52 keys so that number looks correct |
| 17:47.45 | Vophsix | well you can't change the default minimum grid size it seems |
| 17:47.51 | HelixDnB | could you make them an array whiskee? |
| 17:48.01 | WhiskeeGX | not in the local file |
| 17:48.05 | WhiskeeGX | you can only store values |
| 17:48.06 | HelixDnB | hm |
| 17:48.07 | HelixDnB | k |
| 17:48.12 | HelixDnB | voph |
| 17:48.23 | HelixDnB | the way I was thinking was like this: |
| 17:48.27 | HelixDnB | but I dunno if it works |
| 17:48.31 | Clord | why there is such hard coded limit is obvious really |
| 17:48.39 | Clord | they want to make sure that xml files not go out of control |
| 17:48.40 | Clord | in size |
| 17:48.57 | HelixDnB | making a really really small line of region that you can't build in |
| 17:49.06 | HelixDnB | and make that as the grid lines |
| 17:49.20 | WhiskeeGX | well, 50 is pretty low |
| 17:49.30 | HelixDnB | however I don't know if that would disable you being allowed to do the attaching |
| 17:49.37 | AsaPhelps | Can anyone help me test my map? |
| 17:49.42 | HelixDnB | and have each in 1 of the grid squares |
| 17:50.25 | Soziopat | Immer doch Asa, whisper mich hier einfach mit deinem Bnet namen an und ich adde dich ingame |
| 17:50.34 | Vophsix | well that would work helix |
| 17:50.40 | Vophsix | you don't need me :D |
| 17:51.14 | HelixDnB | so voph, I could attach the things and even though the do not build parts were in the middle of a group |
| 17:51.15 | HelixDnB | it could still be built on the sides of it? |
| 17:51.39 | Vophsix | you would have a gap |
| 17:51.45 | HelixDnB | that's fine |
| 17:51.48 | Vophsix | but if the unit footprint was big |
| 17:51.52 | Vophsix | like the buildings |
| 17:51.54 | HelixDnB | right |
| 17:51.58 | HelixDnB | 4x4 footprint |
| 17:52.01 | Vophsix | then they couldnt go down there anyway |
| 17:52.01 | HelixDnB | or 3x3 |
| 17:52.09 | HelixDnB | ok |
| 17:52.14 | HelixDnB | interesting |
| 17:52.19 | HelixDnB | I need to work on attaching units together |
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| 17:53.19 | Lyrrad | morning |
| 17:53.25 | rrowland | ello |
| 17:53.37 | Vophsix | i think it sounds like a 2d array is needed? for the grid |
| 17:54.06 | HelixDnB | what do you mean? |
| 17:54.21 | Vophsix | like 10x10 array integer |
| 17:54.31 | AsaPhelps | how do you get rid of a loading screen image? |
| 17:54.38 | Vophsix | 0 is empty square - 1 = building - 2 = unit |
| 17:54.39 | Vophsix | etc |
| 17:54.52 | Vophsix | then you can test if they are next to each other |
| 17:55.03 | HelixDnB | hm |
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| 17:55.25 | Vophsix | so the square to the left of this unit is a building |
| 17:55.27 | Vophsix | etc |
| 17:55.34 | Adjudicator | rrowland damn you for your rick roll |
| 17:55.41 | Adjudicator | damnnn youu |
| 17:55.50 | HelixDnB | ok |
| 17:56.04 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/do-not-read-please/ |
| 17:56.34 | rrowland | im not going to read that |
| 17:56.43 | HelixDnB | not found anyway |
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| 17:56.45 | AsaPhelps | I'm tempted to read it |
| 17:56.46 | Lyrrad | well of course we are going to read a "do not read" topic |
| 17:57.18 | Lyrrad | might as well made it a big red button |
| 17:57.24 | WhiskeeGX | who are you kidding, everyone clicked it |
| 17:57.33 | WhiskeeGX | ! |
| 17:57.56 | AsaPhelps | Aww that kitty tried so hard to find it |
| 17:58.43 | Vophsix | it clearly did nothing ^^ |
| 17:58.51 | Adjudicator | you may have single handedly destroyed custom maps rrowland |
| 17:58.54 | Adjudicator | I'm afraid. |
| 17:59.09 | HelixDnB | that's why I said don't post the video on the front page |
| 18:02.35 | vjeux | WhiskeeGX did you make the youtube video? |
| 18:02.54 | HelixDnB | btw - http://vimeo.com/9953368 dope video |
| 18:02.55 | HelixDnB | not sc2 related at all tho |
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| 18:08.59 | Vophsix | great video, thanks |
| 18:09.43 | `3ICE | I second that. |
| 18:09.44 | Vophsix | going to be using the 137.5 degrees in a trigger |
| 18:09.48 | Vophsix | ^^ |
| 18:09.49 | `3ICE | Awesome video. |
| 18:09.55 | wOlfLinG | Well, i have my spawning and money system in place |
| 18:09.59 | HelixDnB | :) |
| 18:10.04 | wOlfLinG | Seems like my triggers are almost done tbh |
| 18:10.05 | HelixDnB | glad you guys liked it |
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| 18:12.20 | `3ICE | lol watching a car concept video "Nixus" and random text pops up: iPOD included... |
| 18:12.21 | wOlfLinG | Fibonacci sequence at the start then went into fractals and stuff. Interesting :) |
| 18:12.37 | `3ICE | made by the same guy |
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| 18:15.43 | casperb | hey hey guys |
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| 18:17.47 | Judgment38 | ./sign running out of idea for my map |
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| 18:21.34 | Ignorance | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 18:21.38 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-71-122-122-129.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1h 7m 44s ago, saying: 'Where the hell do I remove unit cost'. |
| 18:21.49 | iceq_ | ~seen `3ICE |
| 18:21.49 | purl | `3ice <3ice.hu@dsl4E5C7729.pool.t-online.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9m 12s ago, saying: 'made by the same guy'. |
| 18:22.05 | wOlfLinG | Right, just need to balance out my map now. |
| 18:22.15 | iceq_ | I got a random disconnect and can't reconnect :( |
| 18:22.15 | wOlfLinG | and make the terrain |
| 18:24.45 | wOlfLinG | Btw, my squads are: Archon, Broodling, Collossus, Ghost, Hellion, Hydralisk, Immortal, Marauder, Marine, Reaper, Roach, Sentry, Siege Tank, Stalker, Thor, Ultralisk, Zealot and Zergling. How many do you think should spawn for each? |
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| 18:30.51 | wOlfLinG | lol: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25172040588&sid=5010 <- A thread about the DotA rickroll :P |
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| 18:31.05 | Cromalic | anyone here with C++ programming knowledge? |
| 18:31.29 | Vophsix | yeah |
| 18:31.41 | `3ICE | a lot |
| 18:32.39 | Cromalic | really? |
| 18:32.42 | Cromalic | cool |
| 18:32.48 | nicoli_s | what for cromalic? |
| 18:32.51 | `3ICE | we are mapmakers after all :) game designers |
| 18:32.52 | Cromalic | i got like a really quick question |
| 18:32.57 | Cromalic | ;) |
| 18:32.58 | Cromalic | yea well |
| 18:33.08 | Cromalic | i implemented a quicksort function in galaxy |
| 18:33.31 | Cromalic | and |
| 18:34.10 | Cromalic | do |
| 18:34.10 | Cromalic | { |
| 18:34.10 | Cromalic | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.10 | Cromalic | }while (x >array[j]); |
| 18:34.27 | casperb | C++ yes, galaxy no :P |
| 18:34.28 | Cromalic | does this execute the j-- once before checking the while loop? |
| 18:34.36 | Vophsix | http://pastebin.com/ |
| 18:34.53 | `3ICE | when unsure, put it in parends! :) |
| 18:34.53 | Vophsix | yes |
| 18:34.58 | `3ICE | my professor always said that |
| 18:35.07 | Cromalic | hehe |
| 18:35.19 | casperb | hm.. so blizzard was really unsure when designing galaxy? :P |
| 18:35.20 | Lyrrad | yes, do-while will always run once |
| 18:35.28 | Cromalic | thanks |
| 18:35.33 | Cromalic | because galaxy checks the condition of the while loop before doing the action |
| 18:36.00 | Cromalic | that was the first question |
| 18:36.04 | casperb | You have to stick everything in parends in galaxy right? |
| 18:36.04 | Cromalic | there are two |
| 18:36.05 | Cromalic | :P |
| 18:36.07 | Vophsix | there was a loop type that galaxy doesn't have - forgotton which one |
| 18:36.15 | Lyrrad | while loop |
| 18:36.21 | Cromalic | galaxy has while loop |
| 18:36.26 | Cromalic | using it atm |
| 18:36.26 | `3ICE | for |
| 18:36.26 | Cromalic | :) |
| 18:36.35 | Lyrrad | not entirely sure about c++ it has been a number of years since I did anything in it |
| 18:36.37 | Cromalic | for loop i guess |
| 18:36.37 | Vophsix | there is while and there is do while |
| 18:36.43 | Cromalic | and that ice |
| 18:36.48 | Cromalic | brings me to my second and last question |
| 18:36.50 | `3ICE | actually there is for loop -.- |
| 18:36.57 | `3ICE | we can make one* |
| 18:37.12 | Cromalic | ----------------------------- |
| 18:37.24 | Cromalic | for (j=0; j < (numLength -1); j++) |
| 18:37.31 | Cromalic | that's a for loop right? |
| 18:37.38 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 18:37.38 | Vophsix | y |
| 18:37.46 | `3ICE | initializer, condition, increment |
| 18:37.57 | Cromalic | it'll j++ as long as j < numlength -1 |
| 18:37.58 | Cromalic | so |
| 18:38.31 | Cromalic | how would you implement that into galaxy? |
| 18:38.35 | Cromalic | not using code, but the gui |
| 18:38.49 | Cromalic | for each integer i assume |
| 18:38.51 | `3ICE | there should be a "for each variable" function |
| 18:38.58 | Cromalic | ye there is |
| 18:38.59 | `3ICE | i will go find it |
| 18:39.08 | Cromalic | i have it already :) |
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| 18:39.39 | Cromalic | damn i just answered my own question |
| 18:39.39 | Cromalic | i think |
| 18:40.50 | `3ICE | for loop in galaxy |
| 18:40.50 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.50 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.50 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.50 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.08 | Vophsix | it increments 1 anyway ^^ |
| 18:41.08 | `3ICE | this is actually j+++ :) |
| 18:41.35 | `3ICE | or j++++? |
| 18:41.43 | Cromalic | that's easy! |
| 18:41.46 | Cromalic | :) |
| 18:41.50 | Cromalic | thx |
| 18:41.53 | Vophsix | on another note: anyone good with the events in the data editor? |
| 18:41.54 | `3ICE | np np |
| 18:41.54 | Cromalic | making a bubble sort you see |
| 18:42.00 | Cromalic | for my scoreboard |
| 18:42.08 | rrowland | I use a recursive sort |
| 18:42.11 | `3ICE | release it as a library once complete |
| 18:42.12 | rrowland | It's super easy |
| 18:42.16 | Cromalic | like quicksort rrowland? |
| 18:42.17 | `3ICE | libsorts by Cromalic |
| 18:42.24 | Cromalic | lawl :p |
| 18:42.29 | Cromalic | me doing a library |
| 18:42.31 | `3ICE | "all it needs is an h" |
| 18:42.36 | rrowland | Yeah I dunno |
| 18:42.38 | `3ICE | "and you can wear them" |
| 18:42.38 | Cromalic | maybe i should put my quicksort in the library |
| 18:42.41 | rrowland | What it's called |
| 18:42.42 | Cromalic | which is working btw ^^ |
| 18:42.44 | rrowland | But it's recursive |
| 18:42.49 | rrowland | And it's the most efficent |
| 18:42.50 | Cromalic | quicksort is recursive |
| 18:42.51 | Cromalic | no |
| 18:42.52 | rrowland | So whatever that's called |
| 18:43.05 | `3ICE | efficiency for sorting 10-20 values is out of question |
| 18:43.11 | `3ICE | ease of implementation is more important |
| 18:43.16 | Cromalic | what sort is effective depends on what's being sorted |
| 18:43.24 | Cromalic | scoreboards, in general |
| 18:43.29 | Cromalic | are almost perfectly sorted |
| 18:43.44 | `3ICE | actually it doesn't matter if it takes 0.000001 seconds or 0.000002 seconds-.- |
| 18:43.46 | Cromalic | since say, top killers will be at top, and sucky players, well, at bot |
| 18:43.51 | rrowland | Okay well it's a recursive sort and it's efficient and it's awesome |
| 18:44.00 | Cromalic | hehe :P |
| 18:44.01 | rrowland | So die in a fire if you believe otherwise |
| 18:44.06 | rrowland | ty |
| 18:44.09 | Cromalic | wow |
| 18:44.14 | Cromalic | rage! |
| 18:44.17 | AsaPhelps | Can anyone help me test my map? |
| 18:44.24 | rrowland | No rage, mostly tiredness |
| 18:44.27 | Cromalic | :) |
| 18:44.35 | Cromalic | asaphelps EU or US? |
| 18:44.38 | AsaPhelps | us |
| 18:44.47 | rrowland | I was gonna go to bed like 3 hours ago and then I found this map on EU that's pretty fun |
| 18:44.58 | Lyrrad | what map is that? |
| 18:45.02 | rrowland | Micro Tournament |
| 18:45.04 | Cromalic | sorry no can do then asa :( |
| 18:45.18 | rrowland | Some of the shit they give you is stupid and there's no way you can win |
| 18:45.19 | AsaPhelps | Talking to me lyrrad? |
| 18:45.25 | rrowland | But most of it is pretty balanced |
| 18:45.37 | AsaPhelps | what about that dota map rrow |
| 18:45.42 | rrowland | Oh |
| 18:45.46 | rrowland | Yeah that's pretty fun too |
| 18:46.57 | Cromalic | rrowland is it mirror matches? |
| 18:46.59 | Cromalic | or well |
| 18:47.02 | wOlfLinG | Is there an easy way to create a score board in my map? |
| 18:47.08 | Cromalic | since you stated that it's balanced i guess it's not :) |
| 18:47.40 | Cromalic | i'm sure there's a leaderboard tutorial on sc2mapster wolfling :) |
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| 18:49.05 | HelixDnB | http://motionographer.com/theater/maxim-zhestkov-recursion/ |
| 18:49.06 | AsaPhelps | hows static cling going rick? |
| 18:50.02 | AsaPhelps | Anyone want to help me test a map on US? |
| 18:50.08 | casperb | Ah btw, data tables are what? a hash? local scope is local how? player? |
| 18:51.00 | Wihl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o |
| 18:51.58 | casperb | err 8 minutes.. watched 30 seconds of it :P |
| 18:52.52 | RickA | Haven't touched it yet today. |
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| 19:01.52 | wOlfLinG | cant find the leaderboard tutorial :/ |
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| 19:05.51 | Cromalic | hmmm |
| 19:05.56 | Cromalic | ok wolf i'll help ya |
| 19:07.19 | Cromalic | seems i deleted my own leaderboard |
| 19:07.23 | Cromalic | since i made my own :P |
| 19:07.25 | Cromalic | sec |
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| 19:08.31 | Cromalic | actually |
| 19:08.37 | Cromalic | wolfling you here? |
| 19:08.44 | Cromalic | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/fully-functioning-leaderboard/ |
| 19:08.46 | Cromalic | check that one out |
| 19:08.58 | Cromalic | dl the map and open it, it explains everything pretty well |
| 19:09.27 | Cromalic | or you can check here: |
| 19:09.27 | Cromalic | http://sc2.nibbits.com/forums/38/view/573/how-to-create-a-leaderboardhow-to-create-a-leaderboard |
| 19:09.44 | `3ICE | lol ugly link |
| 19:11.48 | RickA | I see there's a unit filter for dead units... does that only apply for reviving units? |
| 19:12.11 | `3ICE | reword that quesition. |
| 19:12.33 | RickA | What will a unit filter for dead units do? |
| 19:12.34 | AsaPhelps | Can you make missiles appear on the minimap or do they have to be changed to not being a missile? |
| 19:12.45 | A1win | how do I disable a hatchery from making larvas? can only find larva morph ability and larva wander behavior |
| 19:12.48 | `3ICE | use a unit with a missile system : |
| 19:13.33 | RickA | Disable the hatchery's queue |
| 19:13.38 | A1win | ah |
| 19:13.49 | RickA | Just a guess, but it sounds legit |
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| 19:13.56 | `3ICE | fail |
| 19:13.59 | `3ICE | fail hard :) |
| 19:14.04 | `3ICE | queue is for morphing queens |
| 19:14.05 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 19:14.10 | `3ICE | not spawning larva |
| 19:14.15 | A1win | oh right :P |
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| 19:14.24 | NeoDeathXp | YES! |
| 19:14.26 | NeoDeathXp | HAHAHA |
| 19:14.42 | NeoDeathXp | i got pictures to work in mod files =) |
| 19:14.46 | `3ICE | I'd start @ remove the hatchery - spawn larva behavior |
| 19:14.47 | RickA | Then, I would disable its Spawn Larva behavior |
| 19:15.03 | `3ICE | NeoDeathXp pics or it didn't happen |
| 19:15.03 | A1win | there is no larva spawn behavior |
| 19:15.07 | `3ICE | good work btw |
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| 19:15.11 | A1win | unless it's the same as the wander one |
| 19:15.14 | NeoDeathXp | im writing a tutorial |
| 19:15.15 | RickA | There is and you're wrong. |
| 19:15.17 | A1win | well I'll find out |
| 19:15.19 | NeoDeathXp | on how to do it |
| 19:15.38 | `3ICE | i think he already removed it |
| 19:15.45 | NeoDeathXp | so far in mod files i got pictures, sounds and 3d models to work |
| 19:15.46 | `3ICE | yet his hatchery still spawns larvae |
| 19:15.53 | heysparky | A1win, I've been messing with hives and larva and stuff, what are you trying to do? |
| 19:16.03 | A1win | disable larva spawn |
| 19:16.10 | Tehwildcard | Why does this only work around 75% of the time |
| 19:16.11 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.11 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.11 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.11 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.11 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.18 | NeoDeathXp | im going to write a tutorial on how to do it or probably do a video |
| 19:16.24 | heysparky | and you're sure it's off of the right unit? Hatchery/Hive etc |
| 19:16.27 | A1win | err wtf, now it appeared there o_o |
| 19:16.28 | heysparky | (just making sure) |
| 19:16.52 | `3ICE | A1win say after me: "thx 3ICE" |
| 19:17.04 | A1win | now I have no idea what unit I was editing :P |
| 19:17.16 | heysparky | hive? |
| 19:17.22 | `3ICE | lair? |
| 19:17.22 | heysparky | lair? |
| 19:17.31 | A1win | I only have hatchery filtered with search D: |
| 19:18.42 | A1win | wait, where did I see the larva wander and the queue (1) abilities o_. |
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| 19:18.53 | A1win | err |
| 19:18.55 | A1win | it was the larva -.- |
| 19:18.58 | A1win | ffff- nvm |
| 19:19.04 | heysparky | queue(1) is def on the larva |
| 19:19.10 | heysparky | it may be other places as well |
| 19:19.20 | A1win | it didn't update hatchery to the data view when I searched and clicked on it, annoying bug |
| 19:19.21 | heysparky | larva wander on larva as well |
| 19:19.25 | A1win | yeah |
| 19:19.54 | `3ICE | yeah that bug really is annoying-.- |
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| 19:22.51 | Cromalic | programming question again... |
| 19:23.35 | Cromalic | for(i = 1; (i <= numLength) && flag; i++) |
| 19:23.51 | Cromalic | anyone know how one would implement that using gui and for each integer? |
| 19:24.11 | Kalekin | is flag a bool? |
| 19:24.15 | Cromalic | integer |
| 19:24.20 | A1win | any way to get a unit's hit radius? like how far of the unit's center it can be attacked |
| 19:24.22 | RickA | just do an if at the start of each loop |
| 19:24.22 | Kalekin | so you mean |
| 19:24.32 | Cromalic | i guess i have to |
| 19:24.45 | A1win | is unit "radius" property its hit radius or sight radius or what :x |
| 19:24.45 | Cromalic | check if i = flag? at the start of each loop? |
| 19:24.57 | Kalekin | (i <= numLength) && (i <= flag)? |
| 19:25.25 | A1win | radius seems to do the trick |
| 19:25.31 | AsaPhelps | Whats the proper way to set up teams as 4v4 |
| 19:25.47 | AsaPhelps | Because lobby teams get so messed up |
| 19:25.52 | Cromalic | for(i = 1; (i <= x) && y; i++) |
| 19:25.55 | Cromalic | basically it's like that |
| 19:25.58 | Cromalic | so |
| 19:26.18 | Cromalic | the (i <= x) && y |
| 19:26.23 | Cromalic | is the condition |
| 19:26.32 | Cromalic | does it check if y == i or? |
| 19:26.38 | Kalekin | no |
| 19:26.56 | Cromalic | what does it do with y? |
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| 19:27.12 | Cromalic | there's no comparison |
| 19:27.18 | Cromalic | just y :P |
| 19:27.19 | Kalekin | uhm, if it was a c language? if y is == 0 it will be false |
| 19:27.24 | Kalekin | you would right it |
| 19:27.30 | Kalekin | (i <= x) && (i <= y) |
| 19:27.34 | Kalekin | but ignoring that |
| 19:27.43 | Kalekin | is there a problem with using a while loop instead of a for loop? |
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| 19:28.15 | Kalekin | can easily check both conditions in a while loop |
| 19:28.15 | Cromalic | kalekin actually |
| 19:28.20 | Cromalic | i think flag would be a bool |
| 19:28.23 | Cromalic | i mean |
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| 19:28.30 | Kalekin | a flag would normally be a bool |
| 19:28.34 | Kalekin | flagged true or false |
| 19:28.38 | Kalekin | so it would be |
| 19:28.51 | `3ICE | 3ICE is awesome! |
| 19:28.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.51 | Kalekin | if i <= x and y == true |
| 19:28.52 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.52 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.53 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.53 | Kalekin | then do whatever |
| 19:28.54 | `3ICE | hahaha |
| 19:29.14 | Cromalic | lol :D |
| 19:29.21 | Cromalic | looking at the whole algorithm, i see that flag is only ever set to 0 or 1 |
| 19:29.25 | `3ICE | not entirely in gui, but close :) |
| 19:29.28 | Cromalic | hehe |
| 19:29.46 | Cromalic | not sure if i'm supposed to check if i <= y tho :p |
| 19:29.53 | Cromalic | just |
| 19:29.54 | Cromalic | if y |
| 19:29.59 | `3ICE | you can do whatever in while loops :) |
| 19:30.03 | `3ICE | you want* |
| 19:30.04 | Cromalic | ye |
| 19:30.06 | Cromalic | :) |
| 19:30.38 | Kalekin | cromalic |
| 19:30.45 | Kalekin | with the way you wrote that for loop |
| 19:30.50 | Kalekin | you would not be comparing i to y |
| 19:30.57 | Kalekin | it would just be a flag as to wether y is true or false |
| 19:31.03 | Kalekin | ie, 1 or 0 |
| 19:31.48 | `3ICE | yeah if y is a boolean then it works otherwise fails to compile |
| 19:31.53 | `3ICE | it* |
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| 19:33.12 | AsaPhelps | Anyone want to help me test my map? |
| 19:33.30 | Dustin | what is it |
| 19:33.38 | `3ICE | share control of player 2's units with player 1 and you will be able to test it alone? |
| 19:33.48 | `3ICE | omg its Dustin Bowder! hi |
| 19:33.51 | `3ICE | jk) |
| 19:34.01 | Tehwildcard | Call him by his real name |
| 19:34.02 | Tehwildcard | jesus |
| 19:34.11 | Deuce | terrible, terrible name |
| 19:34.15 | `3ICE | can't be two jesuses in one channel |
| 19:34.30 | heysparky | There Can Be Only One! |
| 19:34.34 | `3ICE | I can walk on water. |
| 19:34.40 | Tehwildcard | np 3ice, I'll leave |
| 19:35.54 | Dustin | ... |
| 19:35.58 | Bifuu| | feels weird having a laptop O.o |
| 19:36.03 | Cromalic | ye kalekin |
| 19:36.05 | Cromalic | i figured |
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| 19:36.17 | `3ICE | oh yes laptops are the weirdness |
| 19:36.31 | `3ICE | i usually put it next to my pc and use vnc |
| 19:36.34 | `3ICE | to control it remotely |
| 19:36.36 | Cromalic | c langauge when you check an integer, 0 returns false, 1 returns true |
| 19:36.44 | `3ICE | this isn't C though |
| 19:36.49 | `3ICE | type safety is enforced :( |
| 19:36.57 | Cromalic | :< |
| 19:37.28 | `3ICE | it'd be fun to access strings as arrays too -.- |
| 19:37.32 | `3ICE | why can't we do it!? |
| 19:37.41 | Deuce | you can't make a string array?? |
| 19:37.50 | Deuce | weak! |
| 19:37.52 | `3ICE | stupid SubString(s,0,1) instead of s[0] |
| 19:38.11 | `3ICE | and we don't even have the SubString function yet... |
| 19:38.16 | `3ICE | blizz just forgot to ad it |
| 19:38.19 | `3ICE | add* |
| 19:38.21 | Deuce | yeah I was actually gonna ask about that |
| 19:38.25 | `3ICE | :P |
| 19:38.30 | Deuce | "hey how do I work a substring into this nonsense" |
| 19:38.48 | heysparky | Hey... if I want to make drones for a player really inefficient gatherers, but leave other drones unaffected, what's the best way to do that? |
| 19:39.06 | `3ICE | set their movespeed to 0.1 |
| 19:39.18 | `3ICE | or kill them |
| 19:39.19 | Deuce | KILL THEM |
| 19:39.24 | `3ICE | ahaha i beatyou |
| 19:39.35 | Deuce | didnt |
| 19:39.39 | `3ICE | ya i did |
| 19:39.47 | Deuce | [14:39] <+`3ICE> set their movespeed to 0.1 [14:39] <Deuce> KILL THEM [14:39] == Ingela [~Ingela@90-230-169-26-no35.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] [14:39] <+`3ICE> or kill them |
| 19:39.50 | `3ICE | [2010-06-03 21:39:24] <+`3ICE> or kill them |
| 19:39.50 | `3ICE | [2010-06-03 21:39:25] <Deuce> KILL THEM |
| 19:40.00 | Tehwildcard | ...my dominos doesn't deliver anymore |
| 19:40.04 | Ingela^ | :O |
| 19:40.15 | Deuce | must be your slow internets |
| 19:40.18 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 19:40.20 | `3ICE | or yours! |
| 19:40.29 | Deuce | !! |
| 19:40.31 | `3ICE | we'll need a judge |
| 19:40.36 | Tehwildcard | I see `3ICE's first |
| 19:40.39 | `3ICE | ahaha i win! |
| 19:40.41 | `3ICE | see |
| 19:40.45 | Deuce | nnnooooo! |
| 19:40.47 | `3ICE | thx Tehwildcard <3 you |
| 19:40.53 | `3ICE | I paid him 5$ to say that |
| 19:41.01 | Tehwildcard | .w tehwildcard2@gmail.com is my paypal |
| 19:41.04 | Tehwildcard | >.> |
| 19:41.10 | `3ICE | alrdy sent it |
| 19:41.26 | `3ICE | send monies to paypal@3ice.hu |
| 19:41.31 | Deuce | im calling hte FCC |
| 19:41.34 | Deuce | and the FTC |
| 19:41.39 | Deuce | and NRA |
| 19:41.40 | wOlfLinG | btw, Dialog - Hide Spawn Changeling? for (All players) <- What should that be to hide a dialog for one the player that clicked it? |
| 19:41.59 | Tehwildcard | for 1 |
| 19:42.01 | `3ICE | conversion - convert player to player group(triggering player) |
| 19:42.02 | `3ICE | that |
| 19:42.09 | Deuce | hide dialog for (player who clicks) |
| 19:42.28 | `3ICE | that doesn't work, cant hide it for player, only palyer group |
| 19:42.48 | Deuce | mine was the same thing just less detailed :P |
| 19:43.19 | Deuce | ....and some of those details were important BUT SO WHAT |
| 19:43.41 | `3ICE | well he didn't know about the details so it was actually important |
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| 19:43.53 | `3ICE | btw wOlfLinG you forgot to say "thx 3ICE" again |
| 19:44.10 | wOlfLinG | Need to test it first :D |
| 19:44.11 | Deuce | kids these days. no respect. |
| 19:44.15 | wOlfLinG | Dont trust you >:] |
| 19:44.18 | `3ICE | I collect those thank-yous and use them to keep my self-esteem high |
| 19:44.44 | Deuce | i set my self-esteem as a constant |
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| 19:45.00 | Deuce | ...but i forgot to change it from "0" :( |
| 19:45.17 | heysparky | 3ICE, I want the drones to appear normal, but not really consume the resources I want available to the player |
| 19:45.28 | heysparky | when the enemy base is destroyed |
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| 19:45.48 | `3ICE | what the... |
| 19:45.55 | Deuce | 31 lines under "actions" in this trigger :O |
| 19:45.57 | `3ICE | okay not going to question the sanity of that decision :) |
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| 19:46.25 | `3ICE | why dont you just tell the drones to stop |
| 19:46.27 | Deuce | sparky - maybe convert them to a drone duplicate that mines crappily? |
| 19:46.49 | Deuce | although that would probably cancel any active commands... |
| 19:47.22 | depthsofchaos | resource collection rate to 0? you can do it with a buff |
| 19:47.49 | wOlfLinG | Idea for map: God mode. A map where you control city type thing, order buildings to be made etc. Like sim city |
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| 19:48.09 | Clord | I think many has tought out that idea |
| 19:48.10 | Clord | lol |
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| 19:48.28 | Tehwildcard | There was a map something like that, units could sacrifice units to a player "god" and that god could give units to that player if he wanted |
| 19:48.30 | depthsofchaos | someone should make populus :p |
| 19:48.36 | Tehwildcard | or well...pretty much anything he wanted to do |
| 19:48.43 | Deuce | there wa a game like that. they called it SIM CITY |
| 19:49.10 | Tehwildcard | Someone should make black and white except make it good >.> |
| 19:49.26 | Wihl | Tehwildcard - kings and peasants or something like that? |
| 19:49.32 | heysparky | 3ICE, it's so I can place an amount of resources down that I want to have the player to take over, but make the enemy base have 'bustle' |
| 19:49.56 | heysparky | and the reason I don't want to create a new drone unit is because I DO want to use the drones like normal, making buildings and such |
| 19:50.08 | heysparky | and larvae/drones/morphing is a lot ot change |
| 19:50.09 | Tehwildcard | I don't remember what it was called, Wihl |
| 19:50.14 | Deuce | i like the buff idea |
| 19:50.14 | heysparky | what was that about a buff? |
| 19:50.23 | Deuce | a buff that sets resource gathered to 0 |
| 19:50.25 | Dustin | Wihl you noob |
| 19:51.05 | heysparky | Deuce, will they still gather? |
| 19:51.15 | heysparky | carry crystal back and forth? |
| 19:51.20 | depthsofchaos | they will its an ability |
| 19:51.24 | depthsofchaos | still has the same duration |
| 19:51.37 | heysparky | hmm |
| 19:51.38 | Deuce | beats me |
| 19:51.41 | heysparky | okay |
| 19:53.17 | `3ICE | Tehwildcard, Wihl: I believe that map is Good vs Evil |
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| 19:59.55 | heysparky | a different question - when you attach a region to a unit, does it stay positioned relative to the unit? or does it move TO the unit? or does it just go one time to the unit and then it's where the unit WAS |
| 20:00.22 | `3ICE | relative |
| 20:00.29 | heysparky | aaaah |
| 20:00.29 | `3ICE | common sense dictates :) |
| 20:00.39 | `3ICE | wouldn't be logical any other way |
| 20:01.15 | Leech | is publishing still not working? |
| 20:01.20 | heysparky | well, when there's an offset in the trigger... you think it MIGHT snap to the unit |
| 20:01.56 | heysparky | since, unless the units are on the same exact coordinate, it would be offset by default |
| 20:01.57 | heysparky | yanno |
| 20:03.41 | depthsofchaos | heh how do you insert video into a map?:o |
| 20:03.52 | `3ICE | frame by frame |
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| 20:04.05 | depthsofchaos | sure :p |
| 20:04.06 | vjeux | News up |
| 20:04.10 | AsaPhelps | Can someone help me test my map? |
| 20:04.29 | `3ICE | News: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/dota-snow-model-sentry/ |
| 20:05.24 | AsaPhelps | that snow model is really impressive |
| 20:05.32 | AsaPhelps | whats the size of it? |
| 20:05.57 | `3ICE | ten trillion petabytes |
| 20:06.13 | AsaPhelps | thats a lot of space that could be used for porn instead |
| 20:06.35 | depthsofchaos | ye i want to inser porn on my map :/ |
| 20:06.42 | depthsofchaos | insert |
| 20:06.58 | `3ICE | oh god |
| 20:07.02 | `3ICE | there'll be porn maps |
| 20:07.25 | depthsofchaos | you will unlock the porn scene if you win 10 games |
| 20:07.26 | Dustin | I want Redtube to port to a SC2 Map |
| 20:07.45 | Ignorance | lol Dustin |
| 20:07.45 | Dustin | That's actually not a bad idea |
| 20:07.54 | Dustin | Im gonna make a Porn Achievement system |
| 20:08.00 | AsaPhelps | tetris with a porn image in the background |
| 20:08.10 | AsaPhelps | so the more you clear the more you see |
| 20:08.23 | Ignorance | What's the point of achievements in custom maps? |
| 20:08.28 | Dustin | Fun |
| 20:08.34 | Dustin | And porn |
| 20:08.36 | Ignorance | It's not like you can show them off anywhere. Do they even save? |
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| 20:08.51 | depthsofchaos | you can give the players a code based on hash tables |
| 20:08.58 | depthsofchaos | they type it in they get it |
| 20:10.04 | Xan | I think its mostly for single player campaigns |
| 20:10.04 | Dustin | WEll it's up to you how you allow players tosee the achievement crap :P |
| 20:10.04 | Ignorance | I mean what's the point if we can't even show them in our achievements page? :( |
| 20:10.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:10.14 | depthsofchaos | lol :p |
| 20:10.14 | Xan | single player |
| 20:10.18 | `3ICE | type it in? that is soo old |
| 20:10.21 | `3ICE | use a bank |
| 20:10.22 | Ignorance | like Achievement: Name of Map - Wordswordswords |
| 20:10.23 | AsaPhelps | So any takers to help me test my map really quick? |
| 20:10.36 | Ignorance | That's word - sword sword btw |
| 20:10.38 | depthsofchaos | banks are stored on your computer no? |
| 20:10.42 | nicoli_s | yes |
| 20:10.43 | Ignorance | swords* |
| 20:10.43 | depthsofchaos | can be cheated |
| 20:10.49 | `3ICE | [2010-06-03 21:33:44] <+`3ICE> share control of player 2's units with player 1 and you will be able to test it alone? |
| 20:10.53 | Ignorance | I'm really worried about banks |
| 20:11.13 | Ignorance | 3ICE, some things you can't test alone |
| 20:11.14 | `3ICE | add an anticheat |
| 20:11.19 | `3ICE | like what? |
| 20:11.27 | AsaPhelps | or someone could just play my map and test it |
| 20:11.30 | `3ICE | i tested my 3player TD alone |
| 20:11.46 | Dustin | Anyone got a bank encryption system setup yet? |
| 20:11.47 | Ignorance | well |
| 20:11.48 | Ignorance | what if |
| 20:11.49 | AsaPhelps | can you share control of enemy units? |
| 20:11.52 | Ignorance | I play on two computers? |
| 20:11.52 | `3ICE | sure |
| 20:11.59 | TheLaughingMan_ | Holy crap |
| 20:12.02 | Ignorance | is the info only stored on one, so I can't access it? |
| 20:12.05 | Beider | ack, hate it when the progress made in a map can't be seen before most of the map is done. Spent three hours coding on my map and all I have to show for it is an empty dialog :P |
| 20:12.05 | TheLaughingMan_ | a blue responded to my text to string |
| 20:12.12 | `3ICE | it is possible to keep the enemies but with shared control |
| 20:12.17 | `3ICE | link! |
| 20:12.19 | `3ICE | TheLaughingMan_ link! |
| 20:12.27 | TheLaughingMan_ | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170779967&sid=5000 |
| 20:12.34 | depthsofchaos | is there a tutorial on banks?:o one that works |
| 20:12.50 | RickA | Hey Asa, how did you get that fire to appear on units attacked by your fireball spell? |
| 20:13.11 | AsaPhelps | Essentially, think of 'text' as write-only. |
| 20:13.13 | AsaPhelps | Triggers |
| 20:13.14 | `3ICE | depthsofchaos youtube |
| 20:13.23 | nicoli_s | RickA: id assume some sort of effect |
| 20:13.33 | AsaPhelps | I attached the fire actor to them |
| 20:14.51 | AsaPhelps | Then I destroyed it |
| 20:15.40 | depthsofchaos | or just make the fire actor appear on the effect impact |
| 20:15.52 | AsaPhelps | Also possible |
| 20:17.01 | AsaPhelps | This Choose you defense map is so weird |
| 20:17.06 | AsaPhelps | It autokicks people when it gets full |
| 20:20.46 | slightlyrandom | Well, thats aggrevating |
| 20:21.24 | TheLaughingMan_ | Well that is going to be an issue |
| 20:22.37 | slightlyrandom | It seems all my autobackups are from yesterday |
| 20:22.39 | slightlyrandom | I wonder why that is |
| 20:23.00 | `3ICE | Because you edited your map yesterday? |
| 20:23.22 | slightlyrandom | Well |
| 20:23.28 | slightlyrandom | I edited my map today as well |
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| 20:24.33 | slightlyrandom | Hm |
| 20:24.43 | slightlyrandom | Luckily I didnt actually manage to get much of anything working today |
| 20:24.47 | slightlyrandom | So the disaster is limited |
| 20:31.27 | Ignorance | Blizzard is monitoring you, and saving when it sees something it likes. |
| 20:31.35 | Ignorance | Your map editing is feeding its power. |
| 20:31.47 | Hati | This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is no longer available in your country. |
| 20:31.48 | Hati | -.- |
| 20:32.05 | `3ICE | i HATE that |
| 20:32.09 | `3ICE | youtube proxy gogo |
| 20:32.46 | Ignorance | Someone should build a small island in international waters and form an independent nation there! |
| 20:33.00 | Ignorance | though |
| 20:33.21 | Hati | But well |
| 20:33.21 | Ignorance | I don't know how well that would work out in terms of laying fiber optics or setting up satellites |
| 20:33.22 | slightlyrandom | Has been done |
| 20:33.25 | slightlyrandom | Seaworld |
| 20:33.26 | Hati | if it would be any new musiic or so |
| 20:33.29 | slightlyrandom | Seasomething |
| 20:33.33 | slightlyrandom | Old OilRig |
| 20:33.35 | Hati | i wouldnt mind really - but it is RICK |
| 20:33.40 | Ignorance | Sealand doesn't have copyright violations :( |
| 20:33.46 | slightlyrandom | Towed into international waters, made a data haven |
| 20:33.48 | slightlyrandom | Think it died |
| 20:33.59 | Hati | moon neither |
| 20:34.18 | Ignorance | The moon would be a very poor place to host a server |
| 20:34.19 | Ignorance | too far |
| 20:34.22 | Ignorance | high ping |
| 20:34.37 | slightlyrandom | Laser datatransfer |
| 20:34.38 | Ignorance | also high loss maybe |
| 20:34.55 | slightlyrandom | Well, you wouldnt use it for gaming |
| 20:34.58 | slightlyrandom | But for datastorage, np |
| 20:35.07 | Ignorance | Hosting torrents :P\ |
| 20:35.15 | slightlyrandom | Naw |
| 20:35.19 | slightlyrandom | Too much waiting |
| 20:35.21 | slightlyrandom | FTP |
| 20:35.26 | Ignorance | haha |
| 20:35.39 | slightlyrandom | Torrent is back and forth, FTP is one way |
| 20:35.47 | slightlyrandom | Ping plays a lesser role |
| 20:35.56 | Ignorance | just make a laser weapon that destroys various lawyers offices |
| 20:35.57 | Fatal5101 | for some reason everytime i try to join that choose your defense map it kicks me back to the game list |
| 20:36.04 | Fatal5101 | or if i host one. as soon as its full it kicks me out |
| 20:36.07 | slightlyrandom | It has a trigger for that Fatal5101 |
| 20:36.21 | slightlyrandom | To keep noobs out |
| 20:36.25 | Ignorance | What's with that? |
| 20:36.28 | Ignorance | How's it work? |
| 20:36.36 | Fatal5101 | lies |
| 20:36.43 | Ignorance | Also, triggers in the game lobby?! |
| 20:36.44 | slightlyrandom | If HasPlayedThisMapBefore == 0, KickToPreventNoobRuiningGame |
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| 20:36.54 | Fatal5101 | you cant put a trigger on the lobby |
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| 20:37.18 | Ignorance | That would be so useful if you could name games |
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| 20:37.22 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 20:37.26 | onetwo | . |
| 20:37.27 | onetwo | yay |
| 20:37.33 | Ignorance | fuck you, onetwo |
| 20:37.38 | Ignorance | You make our lives shitty. |
| 20:37.39 | onetwo | stop being so ignorant |
| 20:37.40 | Fatal5101 | big difference that + made |
| 20:37.59 | `3ICE | that + puts me right below sixen |
| 20:38.04 | onetwo | i like to roll around in my + |
| 20:38.05 | `3ICE | it makes a huge difference in my life |
| 20:38.27 | onetwo | 3Ice you're getting a little bit too sixual |
| 20:38.37 | Tehwildcard | Just assuming your normal spot, below sixen. |
| 20:38.56 | onetwo | insert additional witty sex joke |
| 20:38.56 | Ignorance | I'm actually the highest ranking person in this room. I rank Glenn Beck in ignorance. ;) |
| 20:38.58 | onetwo | :D |
| 20:38.58 | `3ICE | thats how i roll! |
| 20:39.26 | Ignorance | side note: I don't think I've ever met someone who watches his show |
| 20:39.29 | Fatal5101 | a blue post in the map dev forums |
| 20:39.32 | Fatal5101 | o snaps! |
| 20:39.35 | Ignorance | never happened |
| 20:39.38 | onetwo | ive only watched it thruogh colbert |
| 20:39.41 | Ignorance | It's faked. |
| 20:39.41 | onetwo | it seems pretty stupid |
| 20:39.44 | Fatal5101 | it did! |
| 20:39.48 | Coldfusionstorm | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixHo2Gy-bCE&feature=related |
| 20:39.49 | Coldfusionstorm | lol |
| 20:39.50 | Coldfusionstorm | awesome |
| 20:40.02 | Ignorance | It's a hoax, just like the moon landings, and the international space station. |
| 20:40.05 | Ignorance | Also tang. |
| 20:40.12 | Fatal5101 | but i like tang |
| 20:40.20 | Ignorance | It's fake. |
| 20:40.26 | Cromalic | what happens if you divide something with 0 in the editor? |
| 20:40.30 | Ignorance | It's really just orange juice. |
| 20:40.31 | Cromalic | does it explode? |
| 20:40.34 | Fatal5101 | you get 0 |
| 20:40.35 | Ignorance | divide by 0 error |
| 20:40.44 | onetwo | ill give you a divide by 0 error |
| 20:40.44 | Cromalic | k |
| 20:40.51 | onetwo | you bastard! |
| 20:40.53 | Tehwildcard | It deletes your map too |
| 20:41.06 | Ignorance | Finally, you're back. |
| 20:41.13 | Ignorance | Go make cheaters explode! |
| 20:41.14 | wOlfLinG | I want my squads to have X amount of unit value, which can be picked at the start of the game. Is there any way to find how many units would need to spawn to get to that value and then spawn that many rather than having to manually input if thens for each option? |
| 20:41.25 | onetwo | ? |
| 20:41.37 | onetwo | sorry im a bit confused Wolfling |
| 20:41.46 | Ignorance | Well, you could just keep them from spawning if they hit the food limit |
| 20:41.48 | Ignorance | ... |
| 20:42.04 | wOlfLinG | Ok, hard to explain |
| 20:42.23 | slightlyrandom | Add them together as they pick em, have a thing showing how much they have left |
| 20:42.26 | Ignorance | Not hard to explain. Is easy problem. |
| 20:42.32 | slightlyrandom | if the number gets too high, stop spawning :P |
| 20:42.47 | wOlfLinG | Basically, i want units to spawn, but only up to a certain mineral and gas value. I want P1 to be able to choose what value it will be |
| 20:42.59 | Tehwildcard | Ignorance did you run the map I sent you? |
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| 20:43.06 | Ignorance | you didn't send me shit |
| 20:43.09 | Tehwildcard | ... |
| 20:43.09 | Ignorance | also no |
| 20:43.11 | Tehwildcard | you're an idiot |
| 20:43.18 | Ignorance | lol it's because |
| 20:43.22 | Ignorance | I turned off my computer |
| 20:43.31 | Ignorance | without turning off mIRC |
| 20:43.33 | Acefrog | Anyone know how I can making building a building cost energy instead of minerals/gas? |
| 20:43.35 | Ignorance | oh right that |
| 20:43.36 | Ignorance | OOHHHHH |
| 20:43.36 | wOlfLinG | So i could either do a lot of if thens, or somehow return the amount of units that cost that amount, and spawn that many |
| 20:43.38 | Ignorance | THAT MAP |
| 20:43.39 | Ignorance | nope |
| 20:43.52 | onetwo | yeah you can get the "resource amount" for a unit |
| 20:43.52 | wOlfLinG | Acefrog, change the build cost to require energy |
| 20:43.54 | onetwo | ive done it before |
| 20:44.00 | Acefrog | I tried that, it didnt work |
| 20:44.06 | onetwo | but it returns the repair resource cost |
| 20:44.08 | Acefrog | It placed the building but didnt reduce the energy |
| 20:44.09 | wOlfLinG | make sure its the ability |
| 20:44.11 | onetwo | so make sure to set those in data editor |
| 20:44.18 | wOlfLinG | Not the cost on the actual building |
| 20:44.32 | Acefrog | Pretty sure I did, lemme check |
| 20:45.14 | Acefrog | So in the 'Ability - Info' menu of the ability? |
| 20:46.14 | wOlfLinG | hang on |
| 20:46.25 | Acefrog | Ah I think I got it, seems I didnt set it in that but somewhere else |
| 20:46.28 | Acefrog | Lemme check |
| 20:47.42 | wOlfLinG | The ability Probe- Build (Probe), the Build 01, right click, scroll down to cost and change energy to whatever you want and minerals to 0. Same for the rest, and all other build abilitys you are using |
| 20:48.11 | Acefrog | Yep, that worked ^^ |
| 20:48.16 | Acefrog | Im pretty sure I tried that sometime |
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| 20:53.00 | GardenOfAiuyr | u guys get blizzcon tix? |
| 20:53.04 | slightlyrandom | Building animations are fucking with me |
| 20:53.12 | slightlyrandom | Speak english fella |
| 20:55.48 | GardenOfAiuyr | lol. Did anyone get BlizzCon Tickets? |
| 20:56.01 | nicoli_s | we got a few for our company, if im lucky ill get to go |
| 20:56.52 | GardenOfAiuyr | how would i go about getting press tickets for our website. myself and a few writers want to head down but its near impossible to get tickets. last night as insane |
| 20:57.08 | nicoli_s | GardenOfAiuyr: are you a registered fansite? |
| 20:57.22 | GardenOfAiuyr | lol nope. how do i go about doing that? |
| 20:57.32 | nicoli_s | contact blizzard people |
| 20:57.35 | Dustin | Press at Blizzcon si fun as fuck |
| 20:57.44 | nicoli_s | honestly if you dont have it already, then you probably wont in time |
| 20:57.52 | nicoli_s | it can take a few months |
| 20:57.54 | Dustin | Last time I was there I met Mila Kunis and McCuley Kulkin in the press room lol |
| 20:58.04 | nicoli_s | sweet, what press are you with? |
| 20:58.12 | GardenOfAiur | argh :( thats too bad. we've been getting a ton of hits. would love to do live coverage |
| 20:58.20 | Dustin | Was WoW Radio at the time |
| 20:58.25 | nicoli_s | we only get a few press passes so i dont think ill get one :( |
| 20:58.42 | Hati | 5th June |
| 20:58.43 | Hati | GoA |
| 20:58.50 | wOlfLinG | How would i get something to repeat until a condition is fulfilled? I can only get it to repeat forever or X amount of times |
| 20:58.50 | xttocs | Sixen got one didn't he? |
| 20:58.56 | nicoli_s | xttocs: yah |
| 20:59.10 | nicoli_s | but i bet he would of gotten one anyways |
| 20:59.28 | Deuce | w0lfLing - I think there's a "Do While" action or something to that effect |
| 20:59.47 | Deuce | or loop while |
| 20:59.49 | Deuce | something like that |
| 20:59.54 | Deuce | it will loop as long as the conditions are met |
| 20:59.56 | Hati | aint Do While |
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| 21:00.12 | Hati | is the same as While (true) { if (x) then else break; } |
| 21:00.28 | Deuce | just called While |
| 21:00.47 | Vophsix | anyone good at triangle maths here? |
| 21:01.02 | Deuce | a^2 + b^2 = c^2!! |
| 21:01.02 | Clord | telltale games has worst patch support quite some time ^^ people find bugs and they not get fixed of PC version |
| 21:01.03 | Clord | lol |
| 21:01.04 | wOlfLinG | it was just 'While' xD |
| 21:01.07 | nicoli_s | x^2 +y^2 = z^2 |
| 21:01.20 | Hati | depends on which degree |
| 21:02.09 | slightlyrandom | lolol |
| 21:02.12 | Vophsix | i have the angle between two sides known and one side length known - i need to find the length of the third side |
| 21:02.13 | slightlyrandom | lol |
| 21:02.38 | slightlyrandom | So one angle and one lenght ? |
| 21:02.40 | Deuce | this forum is for mapmaking not your math homework! |
| 21:02.42 | Vophsix | yeah |
| 21:02.47 | slightlyrandom | Doesnt work |
| 21:02.50 | Acefrog | Argh, how do you create a leaderboard progress bar? |
| 21:02.57 | slightlyrandom | You need three knowns to get the rest |
| 21:02.58 | Hati | sign at slightly |
| 21:03.02 | slightlyrandom | Otherwise the triangle aint defined |
| 21:03.13 | Hati | you can draw the third line anyway |
| 21:03.16 | Vophsix | oh wait lol |
| 21:03.18 | slightlyrandom | Well |
| 21:03.18 | Hati | it can be length =x |
| 21:03.19 | Vophsix | i have 2 angles |
| 21:03.26 | Vophsix | right angle |
| 21:03.31 | Deuce | then you also have the third angle |
| 21:03.32 | Hati | which angles ? |
| 21:03.36 | slightlyrandom | all three |
| 21:03.38 | Hati | ang(a,b) ? |
| 21:03.42 | Hati | ang(b,c) ? |
| 21:03.49 | slightlyrandom | Draw us a picture in ascii ! |
| 21:03.53 | Deuce | it doesnt matter which two |
| 21:03.57 | Deuce | because if you have two angles you have three angles |
| 21:04.13 | Vophsix | so how do i turn that into the length of a side? |
| 21:04.24 | Deuce | trig |
| 21:04.36 | slightlyrandom | cos, sin, all that fun stuff |
| 21:04.47 | Hati | get the third angle like Deuce said, and use trigometric |
| 21:04.56 | wOlfLinG | Guys, hows this for a unit return trigger? http://pastebin.com/Ddb0Sujb |
| 21:05.10 | Deuce | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigonometry |
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| 21:05.36 | wOlfLinG | zomg, you dont know trigonometry? |
| 21:05.42 | Hati | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=trigonometric |
| 21:05.56 | wOlfLinG | Wolfram Alpha is win :D |
| 21:06.08 | Vophsix | so i need the "opposite" length |
| 21:06.18 | Hati | well you need one more length |
| 21:06.39 | Vophsix | i have the adjacent |
| 21:06.44 | Vophsix | onlu |
| 21:06.45 | Vophsix | only* |
| 21:07.09 | Hati | draw a sketch of it |
| 21:08.03 | Vophsix | if only you could draw in IRC :( |
| 21:08.10 | wOlfLinG | D: I forgot i have broodlings as a unit. Anyone know if a broodling has a resource value? |
| 21:08.10 | Hati | paint |
| 21:08.35 | Vophsix | unfortunately i dont have a photobucket account or similar |
| 21:09.28 | wOlfLinG | Imgsomething or other doesnt need you to have one |
| 21:09.30 | Hati | imageshack.com |
| 21:09.43 | Vophsix | oh thanks |
| 21:09.49 | Vophsix | brb * |
| 21:09.53 | wOlfLinG | imgshack. Thats it |
| 21:10.05 | wOlfLinG | Knew it was img xD |
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| 21:11.48 | wOlfLinG | btw, whats the resource value of a unit defined by? |
| 21:12.19 | Fatal5101 | NESTED iteration ! |
| 21:12.26 | Hati | http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6536/thisg.png |
| 21:12.31 | Hati | Vophsix ? |
| 21:12.42 | Hati | black = given - grey = required |
| 21:12.42 | slightlyrandom | Repair Cost |
| 21:12.44 | slightlyrandom | I think |
| 21:12.53 | Fatal5101 | is there a way to just turn off showing error message in the game |
| 21:13.52 | Azu | http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-news/712630-snes-hd-ipad-demo-use-your-iphone-controller.html awesome >_> |
| 21:14.00 | Azu | makes me want an ipad |
| 21:15.36 | Hati | Azu: he sucks at zelda :x |
| 21:15.40 | casperb | Hm, looks like patch might have broken the AI o.o |
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| 21:16.18 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/turbo-map-heroes/. Turbo Map with Heroes. Veledesh (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 21:16.40 | Vophsix | http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6492/trianglex.jpg |
| 21:16.41 | casperb | ups no nvm -.- |
| 21:16.59 | Hati | Vophsix use Cos |
| 21:17.02 | Hati | iirc |
| 21:17.05 | Hati | and then pythagoras |
| 21:17.09 | Hati | if it is really 90° |
| 21:17.28 | Vophsix | great, thanks <3 |
| 21:17.31 | Vophsix | yeah it's 90 |
| 21:17.56 | Azu | Hati: yeah :P |
| 21:18.05 | AsaPhelps | you want an ipad? lawl |
| 21:18.17 | Azu | to play snes on |
| 21:18.18 | Azu | ? |
| 21:18.19 | Azu | sure |
| 21:18.25 | AsaPhelps | I just play snes on my cell phone |
| 21:18.33 | Azu | same+psp |
| 21:19.08 | Deuce | iphone screen is small and the controller ends up clumsy |
| 21:19.11 | Deuce | ipad would do it better |
| 21:19.27 | AsaPhelps | I wouldn't pay $800 to play snes games |
| 21:19.42 | Azu | :p |
| 21:20.06 | Deuce | well it does a couple other things, I hear |
| 21:20.14 | Azu | yeah :P |
| 21:20.27 | Azu | "wanna watch a movie? theres an app for that" |
| 21:20.50 | AsaPhelps | Want to make a phone call |
| 21:20.53 | AsaPhelps | Too bad :P |
| 21:20.54 | Deuce | why it doesnt have phone call capability is beyond me |
| 21:20.55 | Azu | >< |
| 21:21.05 | AsaPhelps | Want to watch anything that uses flash |
| 21:21.07 | AsaPhelps | Too bad :P |
| 21:21.21 | Azu | "get a android" |
| 21:21.25 | Deuce | like it already has a 3G antenna... so we're talking literally just writing in the software to do it |
| 21:21.26 | Azu | anÄ? |
| 21:21.28 | Azu | * |
| 21:21.45 | Deuce | the flash thing is pure economics |
| 21:21.54 | Azu | nah |
| 21:21.59 | Deuce | no flash keeps you in the app store |
| 21:22.01 | Azu | adobe and apple just hate eachother |
| 21:22.12 | Deuce | that too |
| 21:22.16 | Azu | >< |
| 21:22.42 | Deuce | if it had flash, people would play flash games online instead of buying games in the app store |
| 21:22.56 | Azu | +no battery |
| 21:23.15 | Azu | playing games eats battery |
| 21:23.16 | AsaPhelps | I know I would deuce |
| 21:23.22 | Azu | using internet+playing games >_> |
| 21:23.43 | Deuce | flash games dont require constant internet use |
| 21:23.50 | Deuce | it downloads a file |
| 21:23.52 | Azu | y |
| 21:23.58 | Deuce | and you're done |
| 21:24.12 | Azu | :p |
| 21:24.29 | Azu | runescape on ipad would own :P |
| 21:24.41 | nicoli_s | lol runescape |
| 21:24.48 | Deuce | and my 3GS can record and encode video im sure it can handle flash |
| 21:24.56 | nicoli_s | i did the relaunch of the biggest runescape database site |
| 21:24.57 | Azu | yeah |
| 21:25.01 | Azu | haha |
| 21:25.08 | Azu | played some runescape like |
| 21:25.08 | Azu | yday |
| 21:25.11 | AsaPhelps | if iPad could play sc2 I'd buy it |
| 21:25.15 | nicoli_s | do you use zybez azu? |
| 21:25.21 | Azu | well |
| 21:25.28 | Azu | combat level is like |
| 21:25.29 | Azu | 32 |
| 21:25.29 | Azu | so |
| 21:25.32 | Azu | grind |
| 21:25.34 | Shenlok | I used zybez |
| 21:25.34 | Azu | :p |
| 21:25.35 | Shenlok | good times |
| 21:25.44 | Shenlok | then I moved on to bigger and better things |
| 21:25.46 | nicoli_s | awesome, always glad to see people who know my work :) |
| 21:25.47 | Shenlok | (college) |
| 21:25.54 | Deuce | someone made a WC3 touch interface |
| 21:25.55 | Shenlok | you manage zybez? |
| 21:26.02 | Deuce | and demo'd it on a big desk-screen-thing |
| 21:26.07 | Deuce | clumsy as hell |
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| 21:26.26 | Deuce | had voice input also |
| 21:27.08 | nicoli_s | Shenlok: i recoded it in .net |
| 21:27.14 | nicoli_s | everything except the forums |
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| 21:27.43 | Shenlok | Ahh nice one, I quite liked the way that site was done up |
| 21:28.41 | nicoli_s | thx |
| 21:29.22 | Azu | looks nice |
| 21:31.25 | Azu | pkvideos are so lol :p |
| 21:31.56 | Vophsix | i think the math worked - but the units stop short: |
| 21:31.58 | Vophsix | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.16 | Vophsix | it gets confusing when set out in an action like that =/ |
| 21:33.26 | Azu | i miss the old dragons in rs :< |
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| 21:35.36 | Deuce | what are these "zergling with wings" units that get referenced |
| 21:35.47 | nicoli_s | banelings? |
| 21:35.48 | Deuce | did blizzard originally program flying ****ing zerglings? :D |
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| 21:36.02 | Bemoliph | Deuce, it's speedlings |
| 21:36.09 | Bemoliph | They get wings when you get the upgrade |
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| 21:36.15 | Bemoliph | Kinda like Marines with shields |
| 21:36.28 | Azu | visual effects (y) |
| 21:36.36 | Bemoliph | Yeah |
| 21:36.49 | Clord | d'oh... it is anime physics |
| 21:36.54 | Clord | add wings and you are magically faster |
| 21:36.55 | Clord | XD |
| 21:37.01 | Azu | ha |
| 21:37.06 | Deuce | ohh |
| 21:37.08 | Deuce | those are wings |
| 21:37.36 | Clord | originally I think they was meant to be way more agile but now they have just speed boost via them |
| 21:38.17 | Clord | just like those unused researchs what originally was meant to be in... like four zerglings per egg but takes 50% more time to produce |
| 21:38.17 | Deuce | I always thought of them as fins |
| 21:38.21 | wOlfLinG | I think lings with wings flew origanally and could attack air |
| 21:38.43 | Wihl | How do i solve this "lost connection to gateway" error when i try to publish maps? |
| 21:38.51 | Wihl | It seems to work ~1/20 times |
| 21:39.10 | Deuce | try 20 times |
| 21:39.15 | Deuce | is about it |
| 21:39.17 | Clord | maybe they got simillar thing with reapers... cliffjumping |
| 21:39.18 | Clord | or something |
| 21:39.27 | Wihl | Deuce - oh, does everyone get this error? |
| 21:39.29 | Clord | and blizzard hates simillar abilities |
| 21:39.35 | Deuce | that would be scary as hell |
| 21:39.37 | Azu | Clord: reaperlings would just be to op >< |
| 21:39.42 | Deuce | wihl - it seems to be common |
| 21:39.43 | Wihl | Was hoping there was a way to fix it =/ |
| 21:39.44 | Clord | they usually remove ability if it is too simillar with another |
| 21:40.24 | wOlfLinG | tbh, wing lings should be able to hop up cliffs at least |
| 21:40.36 | Chops | heh, yea. The lings in my mod have cliff walking :P |
| 21:40.48 | Deuce | they would be a bit overpowered |
| 21:40.52 | Azu | op! |
| 21:40.55 | Deuce | since they're so cheap |
| 21:40.55 | wOlfLinG | nah, not really |
| 21:40.56 | RickA | nerf! |
| 21:40.58 | Clord | campaign medics need techlab and they rock.... they don't have mobility like medivac and can't carry crap but oh well.... they are better healers ^^ |
| 21:41.27 | Clord | and can be further boosted with campaign only upgrade |
| 21:41.31 | wOlfLinG | Cliff-jumping lings wouldnt be OP due to latish cliff jump tech |
| 21:41.41 | wOlfLinG | lateish* |
| 21:42.01 | Deuce | between the cliff jump and their speed they'd be able to outmaneuver too well |
| 21:42.16 | Clord | actually they would fill their role |
| 21:42.17 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/impossible-nothing/. Impossible is Nothing. nomorholywar (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 21:42.17 | Clord | way better |
| 21:42.18 | wOlfLinG | Although, i think a morph would be good. A bit like the viking air/ ground modes |
| 21:42.18 | Clord | XD |
| 21:42.41 | Clord | zerglings would become more than to use waste income to something |
| 21:42.42 | Clord | lol |
| 21:42.51 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/big-push/. The Big Push. Wunterwaffen (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 21:42.54 | wOlfLinG | one mode is a ground attack mode (and runs around), the other a sir attack mode (and flys) |
| 21:43.27 | Azu | drones have 34dmg? |
| 21:43.29 | Clord | lol or they could shoot itself like rocket to desired direction crazy far across screen ^^ |
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| 21:43.30 | wOlfLinG | it would also be unique in having an air to air melee attack |
| 21:43.35 | Clord | but they would lose wings after that |
| 21:43.36 | Clord | XD |
| 21:43.41 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 21:43.48 | Clord | wings would burn from heat it causes |
| 21:44.00 | Azu | jump ability? :O |
| 21:44.15 | Clord | rocket like straight line |
| 21:44.18 | Clord | not jump ^^ |
| 21:44.27 | Azu | straight jump? |
| 21:44.37 | Deuce | rocket propelled zergling |
| 21:44.41 | Azu | (y) |
| 21:44.57 | wOlfLinG | I have soooo got to make a mod with that in :O |
| 21:45.06 | Clord | XD |
| 21:45.49 | Azu | meh |
| 21:45.53 | Azu | i cant find my iphone :< |
| 21:46.06 | Clord | game called star control 2.... it is lol to use backburner in that one ship to fool stupid AI |
| 21:46.07 | Clord | XD |
| 21:46.19 | Clord | ship goes crazy speed and leaves flame behind |
| 21:46.28 | Clord | now something simillar to zergling and voila |
| 21:46.29 | Clord | XD |
| 21:46.40 | hyarion | Azu: i hope you have jailbraked it so you can log on to it from your computer and start playing some kind of tune |
| 21:46.43 | hyarion | ehr |
| 21:46.43 | hyarion | ... |
| 21:46.51 | hyarion | or just call it xD |
| 21:46.53 | RickA | Love the purple speedie aliends |
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| 21:47.02 | Reactorex | RAWRs. |
| 21:47.06 | hyarion | forgot that feature |
| 21:47.15 | Azu | well |
| 21:47.22 | Azu | i dont have 2 phones >_> |
| 21:47.26 | Azu | and it is jbd |
| 21:47.33 | Azu | but dont have veency on it :< |
| 21:47.37 | RickA | But I gotta love the space dogs more... they're like cuter banelings |
| 21:47.39 | Azu | or whatever its called |
| 21:48.16 | Clord | if there would be one sick alien being in some fiction |
| 21:48.21 | Clord | it would be that damn green ball |
| 21:48.21 | Clord | XD |
| 21:48.33 | Clord | lol |
| 21:48.56 | Azu | found it! |
| 21:50.25 | hyarion | woooii :) |
| 21:50.40 | Azu | crosses fingers for pwntunes |
| 21:50.43 | Azu | cracked that is |
| 21:50.52 | Azu | i want it :< |
| 21:51.06 | Azu | i hate itunes on windows ;_; |
| 21:51.15 | hyarion | don't use windows then |
| 21:51.25 | Azu | cba to get hackintosh |
| 21:51.37 | wOlfLinG | Btw, who created that dota map? |
| 21:51.50 | Azu | ehm |
| 21:51.58 | Azu | guinsoo? |
| 21:52.06 | Azu | or was it eul? |
| 21:52.31 | slightlyrandom | Dont like windows, dont want OSX? Why not try a real OS ? |
| 21:52.31 | Azu | dont remember original guy ;< |
| 21:53.15 | Azu | cause you "cant" play sc2 on ubuntu |
| 21:53.22 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 21:53.24 | hyarion | slightlyrandom: solution=write your own OS |
| 21:53.30 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starchess/. Starchess. Fyrby (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 21:53.31 | slightlyrandom | Well, the editor is pretty much useless on Linux |
| 21:53.32 | Azu | no |
| 21:53.35 | slightlyrandom | SC2 runs fine though |
| 21:53.37 | Azu | steal someone elses os |
| 21:53.42 | Azu | then rename it to yourown |
| 21:53.48 | Azu | *take credit* |
| 21:53.50 | slightlyrandom | It aint stealing when they give it away for free |
| 21:54.04 | Clord | EUL was original author of DotA... then Guinsoo stole/took/got from original author...... Then Ice Frog got it from Guinsoo |
| 21:54.17 | Azu | yeah |
| 21:54.35 | Clord | but |
| 21:54.37 | Azu | hope "dota" made by icefrog+valve is gonna turnout great |
| 21:54.47 | Clord | Eul is still winner... as made League of Legends |
| 21:54.48 | Clord | ^^ |
| 21:54.54 | Clord | one who actually profits with idea |
| 21:54.57 | Azu | :p |
| 21:55.05 | slightlyrandom | Isnt that niche sort of filled between DotA, HoN and LoL ? |
| 21:55.35 | Azu | :p |
| 21:56.07 | Clord | there is already DotA clone game what is hugely popular |
| 21:56.07 | Clord | XD |
| 21:56.11 | Clord | Heroes of whatever |
| 21:56.13 | Clord | lol |
| 21:56.21 | Wihl | Heroes of Newerth |
| 21:56.25 | Clord | yeah |
| 21:56.25 | slightlyrandom | HoN |
| 21:56.36 | Clord | I dislike it because community is crap |
| 21:56.37 | Azu | hon and lol are rippoffs from dota |
| 21:56.38 | Azu | >_> |
| 21:56.47 | slightlyrandom | Whats with the condecending? |
| 21:56.52 | Clord | LoL author is original author of DotA |
| 21:56.53 | Clord | XD |
| 21:56.59 | Azu | pfft |
| 21:56.59 | Tehwildcard | No its not |
| 21:57.01 | Azu | hon > lol |
| 21:57.01 | Clord | he can't rip off itself |
| 21:57.04 | Clord | :) |
| 21:57.07 | Azu | he just did ;) |
| 21:57.12 | Wihl | LoL went casual though and dumbed it down |
| 21:57.23 | Clord | I like shop window in it |
| 21:57.23 | Wihl | also microtransactions =/ |
| 21:57.27 | Clord | well that is one of reasons lol |
| 21:57.29 | Tehwildcard | Clord, it was a few developers, but not the original |
| 21:58.04 | Azu | all this talk about dota/lol/hon makes me wanna play some |
| 21:58.05 | Azu | :< |
| 21:58.16 | wOlfLinG | hmm... Is it possible to join up 2 types of cliffs? |
| 21:58.21 | Clord | game where memorizing item build for your favorite hero is 95% of typical match skill... meh |
| 21:58.39 | Wihl | working on my melee map.. It plays pretty ok, just spectated a 50 min game on it |
| 21:58.41 | Clord | oh and more coward and safe your style to play is.... more chances to win |
| 21:58.42 | Clord | XD |
| 21:58.47 | Wihl | but i cant help but feel it looks boring |
| 21:58.54 | Wihl | http://www.bluefriday.se/blogging/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/cygnusb10.jpg |
| 21:58.56 | wOlfLinG | I have an island using one type and want to make a bridge from it to another, but i cant due the cliff differant |
| 21:59.05 | Wihl | (changed a little since that screenshot was taken but meh) |
| 21:59.23 | slightlyrandom | It is sort of squareish |
| 21:59.27 | Azu | gauntlet (y) |
| 22:00.18 | Wihl | slightlyrandom - yeah a bit, i avoided that with my second map |
| 22:00.44 | Clord | that map looks enough good |
| 22:00.44 | Wihl | part of the problem is the space platform tileset gets a bit monotone |
| 22:01.08 | slightlyrandom | It looks good though, the pathing and that |
| 22:01.08 | Wihl | but im not sure how to actually add grass and stuff to an existing tileset <.< |
| 22:01.31 | slightlyrandom | Map -> Map Textures |
| 22:01.37 | slightlyrandom | In the Terrain Editor |
| 22:01.40 | Clord | space platform makes nice factory maps with lava to make it look like there is some iron melting |
| 22:01.40 | Clord | XD |
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| 22:01.45 | Azu | WTF |
| 22:01.46 | slightlyrandom | You can swap one tileset for another in there |
| 22:01.55 | Azu | incest in simpsons :S:S |
| 22:01.57 | slightlyrandom | And individual tiles |
| 22:01.57 | Azu | http://i48.tinypic.com/2myca60.jpg |
| 22:02.07 | Wihl | slightlyrandom - ah cool |
| 22:02.11 | slightlyrandom | You're going to jail now Azu |
| 22:02.13 | Wihl | I wanted to make the middle like a bio dome |
| 22:02.27 | Azu | why? :< |
| 22:02.31 | slightlyrandom | Drawn child pornography is still child pornography |
| 22:02.39 | Azu | pfft |
| 22:02.43 | Clord | Azu.. big whoop |
| 22:02.44 | Clord | XD |
| 22:02.46 | slightlyrandom | Two guys have been jailed in Austrailia |
| 22:02.50 | slightlyrandom | One in the US, I think |
| 22:03.02 | Azu | noone cares here |
| 22:03.06 | Azu | in my country |
| 22:03.07 | hyarion | wonder if there is something like abstract child pornography |
| 22:03.08 | Wihl | Is it possible to have a hole in the platform and a transparent texture on top of it that units can walk on? |
| 22:03.09 | Azu | i think >< |
| 22:03.10 | Wihl | in a melee map |
| 22:03.25 | slightlyrandom | Here = Norway ? |
| 22:03.27 | Wihl | I wanted to do a trench filled with cables and such but |
| 22:03.28 | Azu | swe |
| 22:03.34 | Clord | I could say something about religion what would be against such images but... better not |
| 22:03.36 | Clord | XD |
| 22:03.40 | slightlyrandom | Pretty sure it is illegal in both of those contries as well |
| 22:03.56 | Azu | like i said |
| 22:03.59 | Wihl | Afaik its not |
| 22:04.01 | Azu | noonecares here :P |
| 22:04.03 | Wihl | (in sweden) |
| 22:04.11 | Azu | cp is illigal |
| 22:04.14 | Azu | but |
| 22:04.14 | Clord | well because I'm not muhammed ali |
| 22:04.15 | Clord | XD |
| 22:04.17 | Azu | loli pics etc |
| 22:04.18 | Wihl | yeah but drawn cp |
| 22:04.22 | Clord | otherwise I would be with knives |
| 22:04.28 | hyarion | cp? |
| 22:04.29 | hyarion | ah! |
| 22:04.32 | Azu | :P |
| 22:04.32 | hyarion | lol |
| 22:04.33 | Clord | :) |
| 22:04.36 | slightlyrandom | Some danish politicians were complaining it isnt illegal here (yet), and used Norway and I think Sweden ass arguments that it should be |
| 22:04.43 | Wihl | lawl |
| 22:04.44 | hyarion | thought you meant CP pornography :S |
| 22:04.49 | slightlyrandom | Because it is illegal there |
| 22:04.52 | hyarion | CP-listan ftw |
| 22:04.57 | Baron | Blegh, thoughtcrime. |
| 22:05.02 | Azu | cplistan? >_> |
| 22:05.03 | Clord | some countries... people kiss to face as greeting |
| 22:05.04 | slightlyrandom | Quite |
| 22:05.05 | Clord | without meaning sex |
| 22:05.11 | Wihl | Baron - war is peace my friend |
| 22:05.24 | hyarion | Azu: have you missed cp-listan? |
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| 22:05.29 | Azu | yes i have |
| 22:05.31 | slightlyrandom | We have never been at war with Eurasia |
| 22:05.45 | hyarion | Azu: http://ketchup.itgo.com/cplistan.htm |
| 22:06.26 | Azu | va >_>? |
| 22:06.32 | Azu | is confuesd by list |
| 22:06.47 | Clord | after I googled "simpsons incest"... I suggest not to |
| 22:06.48 | Clord | XD |
| 22:06.56 | Azu | lols |
| 22:06.56 | Azu | (12:03:08 AM) Kiriya_Nozomi: already been done in fan art, all good |
| 22:06.57 | Azu | (12:04:44 AM) Kiriya_Nozomi: Azu-Nyan, säg åt posten att skynda sig. |
| 22:06.57 | Azu | (12:04:51 AM) Kiriya_Nozomi: Jag vill ha min tsundere t-shirt :/ |
| 22:06.58 | Cloudwolf | well i'm sad i have a stuck pixels on my 2nd monitor which i cant get to because its protected by a layer of glass it shows blue's and red's and blacks just fine |
| 22:07.12 | Cloudwolf | but when it comes to displaying yellows and greens it just doesn't display that color >> |
| 22:08.09 | Clord | colorblind |
| 22:08.10 | Clord | XD |
| 22:08.24 | Azu | cp btw |
| 22:08.25 | Azu | http://i50.tinypic.com/4j3o9l.png |
| 22:08.25 | Clord | or monitor is broke |
| 22:09.01 | Azu | they should have ps'ed out "www.citypaper.com" :< |
| 22:09.57 | Baron | Anyway, as interesting as CP laws are, I was wondering if anyone figured out how to get a unit to turn and move at the same time if it would be faster than stopping, turning, and moving again for units with accelation. Also how to get them to walk backwards if their target is in front of them and they're told to move away. Ground unit, standard controls. |
| 22:10.14 | Azu | ha |
| 22:11.06 | Clord | I'm tired so it took while but lol |
| 22:11.09 | Clord | see pee |
| 22:11.31 | Azu | :p |
| 22:11.52 | Azu | i hope for your sake you know what CP is |
| 22:11.53 | Azu | >_> |
| 22:12.40 | Cloudwolf | clord i just said the mintor is broke it has 1 stuck pixel |
| 22:12.43 | Cloudwolf | the green variable doesn't light up |
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| 22:15.18 | Azu | hyarion: langa lite silvertejp :< |
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| 22:16.23 | Azu | http://174.36.42.102/1354/39_04_BDNRD/1-PFAKS.jpg (y) |
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| 22:17.16 | TheLaughingMan_ | ~seen rrowland |
| 22:17.19 | purl | rrowland <~Ryan.W.Ro@pool-71-103-175-254.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 31m 33s ago, saying: 'Yeah that's pretty fun too'. |
| 22:17.35 | Cloudwolf | man keyboard press registry lag in triggers is just as laggy as in wc3 lol |
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| 22:19.33 | TheLaughingMan_ | That is so funny |
| 22:20.21 | Fatal5101 | ~seen ignorance |
| 22:20.22 | purl | ignorance is currently on #sc2mapster (36m 53s), last said: 'nope'. |
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| 22:22.57 | Fatal5101 | milky way editor? |
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| 22:24.55 | nicoli_s | what about it? |
| 22:24.59 | Fatal5101 | what is it |
| 22:25.10 | nicoli_s | its a third party editor i and a few other people created |
| 22:25.36 | Fatal5101 | what will it have |
| 22:25.43 | Fatal5101 | will it be GE with more stuff |
| 22:25.50 | Fatal5101 | terrain editing and everything? |
| 22:25.52 | nicoli_s | no, its def different than GE |
| 22:25.57 | Fatal5101 | or is it just a IDE for galaxy code |
| 22:26.01 | nicoli_s | we do have terrain editing, but not like in GE |
| 22:26.02 | casperb | was made pre GE afaik? |
| 22:26.05 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 22:26.15 | nicoli_s | we had it editing maps wayyy before GE was out |
| 22:26.31 | Fatal5101 | dang |
| 22:26.32 | Fatal5101 | your cool |
| 22:26.37 | nicoli_s | why thank you i try |
| 22:26.48 | nicoli_s | but its meant to be something that does some things GE cant do |
| 22:26.49 | Fatal5101 | maybe you can try and solve my current issue |
| 22:26.52 | Fatal5101 | if your real cool |
| 22:27.05 | nicoli_s | like we just recently added the ability to edit multiple data entries at the same time |
| 22:28.04 | nicoli_s | and you can import in image height maps |
| 22:28.16 | nicoli_s | and can import in texture masks for terraining |
| 22:28.30 | casperb | nicoli_s: written in C#? |
| 22:28.33 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 22:28.40 | Fatal5101 | c# is my friend |
| 22:28.55 | casperb | nicoli_s: saw the default app icon, and assumed no one would be insane enough to do it in VB :P |
| 22:29.06 | Fatal5101 | VB is for little kids |
| 22:29.25 | nicoli_s | casperb: these days vb isnt that bad |
| 22:29.30 | nicoli_s | its just C# with different syntax |
| 22:29.32 | casperb | has the exact same capabilities as C#.. just syntax wise it's ugly |
| 22:29.46 | nicoli_s | but before .net 4.0 came out, it had some cool stuff C# didnt |
| 22:29.56 | nicoli_s | like optional parameters and implicit casting |
| 22:30.07 | nicoli_s | but i def do prefer C# syntax |
| 22:30.49 | casperb | favorite language has become ruby ^^ |
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| 22:31.35 | nicoli_s | we actually use .net MVC for work projects now and its fucking great |
| 22:31.43 | Fatal5101 | MVC is awesome |
| 22:31.46 | nicoli_s | takes some of the cool stuff from ruby and stuffs it into asp.net |
| 22:31.50 | Fatal5101 | i have done a few things with it |
| 22:32.08 | TheLaughingMan_ | nicoli_s, my language of choice is Assembly |
| 22:32.18 | Fatal5101 | thats no ones favorite |
| 22:32.28 | nicoli_s | like we have code generation in our newest framework, so that when you add indexes and stuff in mssql, it generates code to get those objects by that index |
| 22:32.40 | nicoli_s | i mean of course it does more, but thats just one of the cooler things it does |
| 22:32.47 | TheLaughingMan_ | It is when you it's the only thing you have to work with to make program your own chips |
| 22:33.34 | TheLaughingMan | Blizzard will never release the option to use pointers |
| 22:33.40 | nicoli_s | i really need to learn assembly |
| 22:33.49 | nicoli_s | its the one thing holding me back from being a pro reverse engineer |
| 22:33.55 | TheLaughingMan | nicoli_s, it's simple as hell |
| 22:34.09 | nicoli_s | oh i know, but i still havent gotten to the point where i can really look at asm and see C++ code |
| 22:34.10 | TheLaughingMan | it's just when you put 10+ lines together the complexity grows tenfold per line |
| 22:34.13 | nicoli_s | thats the hard part for me |
| 22:34.29 | TheLaughingMan | Well |
| 22:34.41 | TheLaughingMan | Most of C++ is calls to other functions |
| 22:34.53 | casperb | Galaxy doesn't have any kind of reference type? |
| 22:34.54 | nicoli_s | like i can usually find what method i want to hook/whatever in IDA and successfully breakpoint it and find a few things, but i always get stuck somewhere |
| 22:35.10 | TheLaughingMan | casperb, nope |
| 22:35.14 | TheLaughingMan | casperb, never will |
| 22:35.42 | TheLaughingMan | Well unless Blizzard want's to completly sandbox every thing |
| 22:35.50 | TheLaughingMan | Which I doubt they want to |
| 22:36.22 | TheLaughingMan | Allowing pointers has the potential of people using malicous coding |
| 22:36.23 | casperb | hm.. so unitA = unitB makes a copy? |
| 22:36.28 | TheLaughingMan | yep |
| 22:36.45 | TheLaughingMan | which is actually what it does in C/C++ |
| 22:36.56 | TheLaughingMan | unitA* = unitB* |
| 22:37.08 | TheLaughingMan | would work in C/C++ |
| 22:38.19 | TheLaughingMan | the other languages I like are... |
| 22:38.44 | casperb | Wonder why they diddn't just go with lua or something |
| 22:38.58 | TheLaughingMan | Lua isn't as powerfull |
| 22:39.32 | casperb | any language really, just used lua as an example because i know WoW used it |
| 22:39.49 | TheLaughingMan | WoW LUA didn't do much other than visual changes |
| 22:40.22 | TheLaughingMan | SC2 Galaxy is a stripped down version of C/C++ but it is still rather powerfull |
| 22:40.33 | casperb | API really sucks tho IMO |
| 22:40.46 | TheLaughingMan | But it makes it faster/cleaner |
| 22:40.57 | TheLaughingMan | Anyways let's see.. |
| 22:41.41 | TheLaughingMan | Lisp, Lua, Python, Perl, PHP, Ruby, C/C++, C#, VB, Bash, Make... |
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| 22:42.31 | TheLaughingMan | Can't forget BASIC |
| 22:42.52 | TheLaughingMan | Guess you can also include Batch |
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| 22:43.45 | TheLaughingMan | Javascript |
| 22:44.37 | nicoli_s | ahh sweet javascript, i have become so good at ye |
| 22:44.52 | TheLaughingMan | And that's it |
| 22:45.01 | TheLaughingMan | The number one language I hate the most is Java |
| 22:45.05 | TheLaughingMan | with a firey passion |
| 22:45.14 | nicoli_s | same here, but only cuz i had to do it at school |
| 22:45.28 | casperb | Meh really can't figure out the height codes for terrain objects, anyone else had any luck? |
| 22:45.31 | TheLaughingMan | There is only one application where it was used and it worked |
| 22:45.39 | TheLaughingMan | Android Programming |
| 22:45.51 | TheLaughingMan | Other then that it serves no point |
| 22:45.55 | nicoli_s | height codes casperp? |
| 22:46.00 | nicoli_s | casperb* |
| 22:46.27 | TheLaughingMan | If companies want to worry about cross compatibility between different OSes they can use C# and Mono |
| 22:46.30 | casperb | Yeah Terrain Objects have a really well documented field called height codes, (doc reads: defines the height codes for the object) |
| 22:46.54 | nicoli_s | so is it an enum? or a float? or what |
| 22:47.02 | casperb | It's an array |
| 22:47.17 | casperb | of integers or strings |
| 22:47.30 | Beider | Anyone know if it is possible to display the unit 3d model in a dialog? Kind of like blizzard does for the unit inventory dialog they made |
| 22:48.52 | casperb | Beider: You could fake it with an actor? |
| 22:49.08 | casperb | Beider: maybe have an alpha texture for the dialog where the actor appears |
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| 22:49.34 | Beider | casperb: Don't really want to fake it, as it would not look very good |
| 22:49.42 | Beider | There should be a way as blizzard does it in their inventory dialog |
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| 22:51.07 | casperb | Beider: think creating an actor is the only way |
| 22:51.26 | casperb | Beider: norwegian btw? saw one of your tuts :P |
| 22:51.28 | RickA | Anybody have much experience with the Add Ammo to Magazine ability? |
| 22:53.46 | Ignorance | shshsihshsihshishshisihshshs |
| 22:58.55 | AsaPhelps | RickA hows that ability coming? |
| 22:59.30 | RickA | Other abilities are breaking so I have to fix those |
| 23:00.05 | AsaPhelps | What did you base for it? |
| 23:00.24 | RickA | Its just a trigger |
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| 23:00.41 | Beider | casperb: yes norwegian |
| 23:00.45 | Ardnived | How do I abandon a project? |
| 23:00.55 | RickA | give it to me |
| 23:01.00 | RickA | it'll get abandoned really quickly |
| 23:01.14 | Ardnived | :? |
| 23:01.17 | Lyrrad | Take it to the mall, and when it looks away, run for the car |
| 23:01.30 | Ardnived | I mean delete a project of mine from the database :P |
| 23:02.08 | Lyrrad | don't know |
| 23:02.10 | WhiskeeGX | can a map open multiple banks for each player, or you are limited to one? |
| 23:02.30 | Ardnived | :( |
| 23:02.52 | Ignorance | WhiskeeGX, why would it matter? |
| 23:03.00 | Ignorance | You can just write how they'd be divided anyway. |
| 23:03.04 | Ignorance | :P |
| 23:03.08 | WhiskeeGX | the 50 keys limit is too low for me |
| 23:03.11 | Ignorance | oh |
| 23:03.24 | WhiskeeGX | my top10 shared list takes 40 by itself :/ |
| 23:03.47 | Ignorance | O_o |
| 23:04.01 | Ignorance | You might want to consider storing more data per key... |
| 23:04.17 | AsaPhelps | Someone give me an idea for ability so I can do something |
| 23:04.19 | Ignorance | Also, a top 10 that's inaccurate what's the point? |
| 23:04.20 | WhiskeeGX | I might end up doing that. |
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| 23:04.36 | Lyrrad | Meteor Storm |
| 23:04.50 | AsaPhelps | That sounds hard |
| 23:04.51 | WhiskeeGX | well, it gets quite accurate in my map actually. I tested it in the past few days |
| 23:04.55 | Ignorance | AsaPhelps, you want to write an ability? How about a spring? |
| 23:05.01 | AsaPhelps | A spring? |
| 23:05.05 | Ignorance | Make it shoot the enemy back, then pull it back to you. |
| 23:05.07 | AsaPhelps | Like a fountain of healing? |
| 23:05.08 | RickA | I made a meteor spell before |
| 23:05.13 | AsaPhelps | Oh a spring |
| 23:05.16 | Ignorance | like it knocks them back, then reels them in. |
| 23:05.17 | RickA | Ignorance, there's already a field for that in the editor |
| 23:05.22 | Fatal5101 | ignorance is here! |
| 23:05.23 | Ignorance | Really? |
| 23:05.25 | AsaPhelps | That sounds like an annoying ability |
| 23:05.30 | Fatal5101 | i need you man |
| 23:05.31 | Fatal5101 | i NEED you |
| 23:05.35 | Ignorance | Goddamnit. Now people will ask me questions. |
| 23:05.39 | AsaPhelps | He NEEDS you inside him |
| 23:05.40 | Fatal5101 | hey |
| 23:05.43 | Fatal5101 | im special tho |
| 23:05.47 | Fatal5101 | we go way back |
| 23:05.48 | RickA | No I'm wrong its slightly different |
| 23:05.54 | Ignorance | I have proxmaps and chainlists to write for comp sci. @_@ |
| 23:05.59 | AsaPhelps | Whats the name of that zealot knockback map |
| 23:06.05 | AsaPhelps | I think it was front page news once |
| 23:06.05 | Fatal5101 | :( |
| 23:06.10 | Ignorance | Honestly, though |
| 23:06.14 | Ignorance | I'd like the ability |
| 23:06.15 | Ignorance | to restrict |
| 23:06.20 | Ignorance | a spell |
| 23:06.24 | Ignorance | like |
| 23:06.27 | Ignorance | say I have blonk |
| 23:06.29 | Ignorance | blink* |
| 23:06.49 | wOlfLinG | lol, blonk |
| 23:06.50 | Ignorance | I want it to act like areas not within a particular region are unpathable |
| 23:07.02 | Ignorance | so the unit will never leave the maze |
| 23:07.05 | AsaPhelps | Shatter is a fun ability to play with |
| 23:07.09 | wOlfLinG | Add lava |
| 23:07.19 | Ignorance | Though, something I've been wanting |
| 23:07.21 | Ignorance | is a bridge |
| 23:07.22 | Ignorance | like |
| 23:07.24 | Ignorance | you walk over it |
| 23:07.28 | Ignorance | you walk under it |
| 23:07.39 | Fatal5101 | thats how bridges work |
| 23:07.42 | Ignorance | yup |
| 23:07.46 | Ignorance | Make one of those. |
| 23:07.47 | AsaPhelps | Trolls live under bridges |
| 23:07.49 | Ignorance | Also, moving platforms. |
| 23:07.55 | Fatal5101 | yeah |
| 23:08.00 | Ignorance | I'd love a moving platform. |
| 23:08.01 | Fatal5101 | you gotta watch out for the trolls |
| 23:08.28 | Ignorance | I'm a troll, though. :O |
| 23:09.08 | Ignorance | Do you honestly think one person could write so much elegant code? There's like 10 different Ignorances. ;) |
| 23:09.26 | Fatal5101 | need someone to look at my trigger and tell me what is wrong |
| 23:09.40 | Ignorance | You assigned it to the wrong player |
| 23:09.41 | Fatal5101 | im getting nested iteration errors |
| 23:09.45 | Ignorance | oh |
| 23:09.47 | Ignorance | that's because |
| 23:09.50 | Ignorance | you should use for each |
| 23:09.51 | Ignorance | not |
| 23:09.53 | Ignorance | iterate |
| 23:10.06 | Ignorance | because it doesn't know which one to use for the pointer if you use iterate |
| 23:10.20 | Fatal5101 | but im using a switch |
| 23:10.31 | Ignorance | switch? |
| 23:10.33 | Fatal5101 | everything works fine |
| 23:10.38 | Fatal5101 | just gives an error |
| 23:10.42 | Ignorance | What's switch do? |
| 23:11.10 | Fatal5101 | General - Switch (Actions) depending on R |
| 23:11.26 | Ignorance | but what does that dooo |
| 23:12.34 | Fatal5101 | http://pastebin.com/CcBw4GHL |
| 23:12.42 | AsaPhelps | Is there a way to add like 300 offsets in triggers without needing to do them 1 by 1 in the data editor? |
| 23:12.58 | Fatal5101 | thats the trigger that is spitting out that error. but it works fine |
| 23:13.10 | Ignorance | AsaPhelps, arithmetic multiple |
| 23:14.19 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
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| 23:14.54 | Pandepic | does anyone know why my units can move over pathing blockers? |
| 23:15.28 | Ignorance | I get the same issue |
| 23:15.33 | Fatal5101 | ground or flying unit |
| 23:15.39 | Pandepic | ground |
| 23:15.48 | Pandepic | though flying shouldn't be able to move over pathing blockers either |
| 23:16.33 | Fatal5101 | did you use the brush tool to paint the no pathing |
| 23:16.36 | Fatal5101 | or make doodads |
| 23:16.40 | Pandepic | doodads |
| 23:16.53 | Fatal5101 | if its a ground unit you are blocking |
| 23:17.00 | Fatal5101 | use the pathing painting tool |
| 23:17.06 | Ignorance | Do dynamic pathing blockers not work? |
| 23:18.00 | Pandepic | will the pathing painting tool not affect air units? |
| 23:18.16 | Leech | For Unit Group - For Each UNIT in Unit Group... what is the UNIT supposed to be? i tried a copy of the unit and that doesnt work |
| 23:18.20 | Fatal5101 | you cant paint no fly zones |
| 23:18.23 | Fatal5101 | but on the pathing layer |
| 23:18.29 | Fatal5101 | there is a no fly zone thing |
| 23:18.30 | Fatal5101 | you can place |
| 23:18.36 | Fatal5101 | you just have to make a line with them |
| 23:19.01 | Pandepic | well I'm just trying to make it so units can't fly/walk right through my building doodads |
| 23:19.09 | Pandepic | seems silly that those don't already have a collision... |
| 23:19.26 | Pandepic | a variable Leech |
| 23:19.31 | Fatal5101 | give it collision flags |
| 23:19.35 | Fatal5101 | or something |
| 23:19.39 | Leech | i am using a variable |
| 23:19.42 | Leech | but it doesnt work |
| 23:19.47 | Leech | is the variable supposed to be an integer? |
| 23:19.51 | Pandepic | no, a unit |
| 23:20.03 | Leech | ok well i set a variable = to the unit type |
| 23:20.12 | Leech | is that right? |
| 23:20.26 | Pandepic | yeah |
| 23:20.32 | Leech | ermmm |
| 23:20.36 | Pandepic | just make a unit type variable and tell it to use that |
| 23:20.53 | Leech | hmmm |
| 23:20.54 | Leech | k |
| 23:21.29 | Pandepic | Fatal: I don't think you can give flags to doodads lol |
| 23:21.51 | wOlfLinG | hmm... my add water state doesnt work |
| 23:21.55 | Fatal5101 | cant you just copy a exsisting building |
| 23:21.56 | wOlfLinG | I want to add moving lava |
| 23:22.04 | Fatal5101 | and change the building model to the doodad |
| 23:22.08 | wOlfLinG | but i need another water state for that |
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| 23:22.24 | Pandepic | because I don't want them to be units |
| 23:22.54 | Pandepic | it would be better to find a way to make units not move through them and keep them as doodads |
| 23:22.58 | Fatal5101 | then paint a circle of no pathing around the dodad |
| 23:23.07 | Pandepic | I'm trying that |
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| 23:23.16 | wOlfLinG | just make the doodad no-pathing |
| 23:23.23 | Pandepic | I made a pathing blocker doodad |
| 23:23.27 | Pandepic | but it seems to not work when you scale it |
| 23:23.33 | Leech | Pandepic - it wont allow for a unit type to be used |
| 23:23.37 | Leech | it says implicit cast |
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| 23:24.20 | Cloudwolf | hmm need tof idn out hwot o issue a move command now >.> |
| 23:24.33 | Pandepic | works fine for me Leech |
| 23:24.46 | Pandepic | a move command with triggers cloud? |
| 23:25.14 | Ignorance | issue order |
| 23:25.28 | Pandepic | yeah it's in Unit -> UnitIssueOrder |
| 23:26.05 | Cloudwolf | i found issue order |
| 23:26.14 | Cloudwolf | i just cna't find move on the list of possible things |
| 23:26.29 | Cloudwolf | order last creatd unit to blank repalce existing |
| 23:27.23 | Cloudwolf | i only see hold position |
| 23:28.01 | Ignorance | it should be under value |
| 23:28.20 | Cloudwolf | whats it called under value? |
| 23:28.50 | Cloudwolf | becasue again for move i only get hold position as an option |
| 23:29.10 | DarkPrince | Did you set it to issue order at point? |
| 23:29.12 | Pandepic | it's called move lol |
| 23:29.21 | DarkPrince | Rather than No Target? |
| 23:29.36 | Pandepic | yeah set it to "OrderTargetingPoint" |
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| 23:29.55 | DarkPrince | Else you only get to see the commands which have no target needed. :) |
| 23:30.01 | Cloudwolf | >.> nope noi i idnt lol |
| 23:30.10 | Pandepic | *sigh* I wish air units didn't ignore the pathing layer stuff |
| 23:30.21 | DarkPrince | Don' worry, I missed that too. :D |
| 23:30.41 | Pandepic | making my giant city buildings collidable is going to be a pain |
| 23:32.01 | Lyrrad | Aren't there Air Blocker doodads? |
| 23:33.00 | RickA | yes |
| 23:33.20 | Pandepic | there's just one called pathing blocker |
| 23:33.23 | Pandepic | and it's really small |
| 23:33.29 | Pandepic | so not suited to blocking the big buildings at all |
| 23:33.49 | Pandepic | unless I put down a ton of them to surround each building, which seems like a bad way to do it |
| 23:33.58 | wOlfLinG | O_o just crashed sc2 by creating 47386 supply worth of units in less than a second |
| 23:34.03 | Ignorance | Pandepic, just make them ground units with different collides |
| 23:34.04 | Fatal5101 | everything you need to block pathing is on the Pathing layer |
| 23:34.11 | Ignorance | and being raised above the ground |
| 23:34.12 | wOlfLinG | Plus they died because of lava |
| 23:34.22 | Pandepic | I want to find a way to keep them as doodads |
| 23:34.35 | Pandepic | I'm going to try the no fly zone |
| 23:34.45 | Lyrrad | I think he was talking about the air units |
| 23:34.46 | Pandepic | those have a max radius of 7.25 though I think |
| 23:35.16 | Lyrrad | You could look at the footprint of the air blockers and see how it is set up, and then just make it larger for your building |
| 23:35.30 | Pandepic | that's an idea |
| 23:35.39 | Pandepic | but how do I do that? doodads aren't in the data editor |
| 23:35.53 | Lyrrad | They are in the actor section |
| 23:35.58 | Pandepic | oh really? |
| 23:36.02 | Lyrrad | and its the footprint you are interested in anyways |
| 23:36.15 | Lyrrad | which is in the footprint section |
| 23:36.49 | Pandepic | I'll try it if the no fly zone is not practical |
| 23:37.07 | Pandepic | wow |
| 23:37.12 | Pandepic | the max radius is perfect |
| 23:37.15 | Pandepic | of the no fly zone |
| 23:37.18 | Fatal5101 | see |
| 23:37.21 | Fatal5101 | im awesome |
| 23:37.22 | Pandepic | it pretty much exactly fits the building lol |
| 23:37.26 | Pandepic | thanks Fatal <3 |
| 23:37.37 | wOlfLinG | >< I just created 47386 units again! This is annoying! |
| 23:37.44 | Pandepic | how did you do that? lol |
| 23:37.54 | Lyrrad | making lots of units is easy |
| 23:38.05 | Lyrrad | well, maybe not for the computer |
| 23:38.08 | wOlfLinG | Ive got a trigger that creates a set amount of units when a unit walks over them at a random units point |
| 23:38.16 | Lyrrad | but its easy to tell it to make lots of units |
| 23:38.22 | Pandepic | no I mean |
| 23:38.29 | Pandepic | how do you accidentally make 47 thousand of them |
| 23:38.38 | wOlfLinG | 2 units go to the area, bam, units at 2nd unit, they trigger the event, more units etc till game crashes |
| 23:38.46 | Pandepic | hahaha |
| 23:38.47 | heysparky | lol |
| 23:38.49 | Pandepic | that's hilarious |
| 23:38.52 | Lyrrad | where to the units get created? |
| 23:38.55 | heysparky | well, possibly you should turn the trigger off, yeah? |
| 23:39.03 | wOlfLinG | I need it :D |
| 23:39.14 | wOlfLinG | Just need to change where the units appear |
| 23:39.15 | heysparky | use the repeat action and then turn it back on again |
| 23:39.22 | Pandepic | now to start the tedious process of building an entire city >> |
| 23:39.23 | Beider | hmm, my TD map is second most played on europe atm |
| 23:39.24 | Beider | oO |
| 23:39.28 | wOlfLinG | nice |
| 23:39.29 | Beider | It's not even balanced |
| 23:39.30 | Beider | haha |
| 23:39.31 | Beider | it's shit |
| 23:39.32 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 23:39.32 | Pandepic | which TD is yours Beider? |
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| 23:39.39 | Beider | BeiderTD... |
| 23:39.41 | Beider | ^^ |
| 23:39.46 | Pandepic | never played it |
| 23:39.52 | cornelius | why r ppl still making maps if the beta ends in like.. a day |
| 23:39.52 | Beider | I released it today |
| 23:39.54 | Pandepic | most TDs I've tried were pretty terrible though |
| 23:39.55 | Beider | it's not even localized |
| 23:40.01 | Beider | mine is good |
| 23:40.02 | Pandepic | I thought beta ended on the 7th |
| 23:40.03 | Beider | but not balanced :P |
| 23:40.04 | wOlfLinG | hmmm... why can't i add water states? |
| 23:40.05 | Lyrrad | Beider - I have seen top 10 maps that would hit game breaking bugs in less then 5 minutes, and yet they would still be top 10 |
| 23:40.15 | Pandepic | yeah |
| 23:40.22 | Pandepic | LOL did you guys see the DOTA rickroll? |
| 23:40.28 | cornelius | listen to lyrrad, the v 0.1 of my map was in top 10 and it was awful; |
| 23:40.31 | wOlfLinG | nope. Im avoiding it :) |
| 23:40.32 | Pandepic | it's in the top 10 on the US server now |
| 23:41.04 | Lyrrad | You don't need a good map to be in the top 10, you just need stupid people |
| 23:41.09 | Triceron | it's awesome how viral it's gotten' |
| 23:41.27 | Lyrrad | so what you join a map called Dota and then it plays rickroll when you start? |
| 23:41.39 | wOlfLinG | pretty much :) |
| 23:41.46 | heysparky | well, and there's a false appearance of goodness when a map gets a lot of plays (because it crashes 2min in) |
| 23:41.47 | Triceron | watch the vid on sc2mapster main page |
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| 23:41.51 | Fatal5101 | how did they get a video to play on the map? |
| 23:41.54 | heysparky | wow, lots of people have played that |
| 23:41.55 | heysparky | cool |
| 23:42.03 | heysparky | I'll check it out too |
| 23:42.11 | Dustin | You can play Flash Files in the map |
| 23:42.13 | Lyrrad | Tri - Is that the baneling one? |
| 23:42.15 | Triceron | apparently |
| 23:42.25 | onetwo | just look at the city billboards doodad |
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| 23:42.29 | onetwo | some of them have animations |
| 23:42.30 | Triceron | you can only alt-f4 out fo the rickroll too |
| 23:42.47 | Pandepic | yeah they lock out the menus |
| 23:42.54 | Pandepic | it's pretty well done |
| 23:42.55 | heysparky | lol |
| 23:42.59 | onetwo | see i dont want blizzard to look at this and take away our mapping power |
| 23:43.02 | heysparky | that's pretty funny |
| 23:43.07 | onetwo | we want manipulation over menus |
| 23:43.08 | onetwo | and stuff like that |
| 23:43.13 | wOlfLinG | ya |
| 23:43.15 | onetwo | of course someone will abuse |
| 23:43.16 | Pandepic | it's stupid for blizzard to let you do that stuff in the map editor imo |
| 23:43.29 | onetwo | meh, atleast they dont let you override mpq's with imports |
| 23:43.32 | onetwo | COUG HCOUGH |
| 23:43.34 | onetwo | LOL |
| 23:43.35 | wOlfLinG | There should be a 'Reort' function on maps |
| 23:43.36 | Pandepic | hahaha |
| 23:43.40 | wOlfLinG | report* |
| 23:43.43 | Lyrrad | I want blizzard to add a way for me to leave a game during the countdown when the host is too stupid and launches without enough players |
| 23:43.46 | Fatal5101 | alright i got an idea for a tower... its a tower that shoots fire from every direction damaging all units near the tower in a range of about 2-3. How do i make that happen? |
| 23:43.48 | Pandepic | I thought there was a map report function somewhere |
| 23:44.00 | onetwo | fatal |
| 23:44.01 | Pandepic | make an effect Fatal |
| 23:44.04 | heysparky | if the content is meant, ultimately, to be 'policed' by the community - then... what do they care about any of it? Right? |
| 23:44.12 | onetwo | weapon with effect that has an area |
| 23:44.14 | onetwo | attack |
| 23:44.26 | onetwo | you want missiles too |
| 23:44.27 | onetwo | err but wait |
| 23:44.29 | wOlfLinG | I once played a 3v3v3v3 map with just 2 players. |
| 23:44.30 | onetwo | id look at how the marauder weapon is set up |
| 23:44.31 | Pandepic | onetwo just had to outdo my explanation with one that is actually good =( |
| 23:44.34 | onetwo | except see about adding a search area to it |
| 23:44.42 | Fatal5101 | how would i do the visuals |
| 23:44.47 | onetwo | hhahaha |
| 23:44.49 | onetwo | oh |
| 23:44.50 | Werepenguin | I'm creating a hero unit but he only get xp for the units he kills. I want him to get xp for all close enemy units that die. I've looked around in the Veterancy behavior but changing the "Shared Fraction" And "Shared radius" doesn't work. Any ideas? |
| 23:44.52 | onetwo | actors |
| 23:44.59 | onetwo | copy paste |
| 23:45.00 | onetwo | look at the marauder attack actor |
| 23:45.03 | Pandepic | you could use a trigger penguin |
| 23:45.05 | onetwo | change token to your fire |
| 23:45.07 | onetwo | model |
| 23:45.08 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 23:45.10 | Pandepic | when a unit dies |
| 23:45.12 | RickA | Were: Shared only works for units with that behavior |
| 23:45.13 | onetwo | find a fire model |
| 23:45.13 | Fatal5101 | alright |
| 23:45.20 | Pandepic | check if the hero is close enough |
| 23:45.30 | Werepenguin | Ah that's true |
| 23:45.33 | onetwo | Fatal i cant guarantee itll work |
| 23:45.34 | RickA | Basically, the behavior runs from the killing unit |
| 23:45.40 | onetwo | but thats what id try |
| 23:45.41 | onetwo | i havent made it |
| 23:45.42 | RickA | If it doesn't have that behavior, it won't run |
| 23:45.48 | Werepenguin | Haven't worked with triggers. Where do I find the "if unit is close enough"-condition? :) |
| 23:45.50 | RickA | And therefore won't share |
| 23:45.57 | RickA | distance between points |
| 23:46.07 | Werepenguin | Ok, ty |
| 23:46.11 | onetwo | and 2nd one too |
| 23:46.12 | onetwo | distance between points, pick first point to be unit - position of unit |
| 23:46.15 | onetwo | then w/e unit you want |
| 23:46.17 | onetwo | triggering |
| 23:46.18 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 23:46.18 | RickA | See how efficient I am? |
| 23:46.23 | onetwo | i expanded |
| 23:46.24 | RickA | These fuckers never answer my q's |
| 23:46.28 | onetwo | you get it started |
| 23:46.28 | RickA | But I'm on top of shit |
| 23:46.28 | onetwo | hahah |
| 23:46.35 | onetwo | get out of here Martul |
| 23:46.37 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 23:46.44 | Fatal5101 | is there a model preview option? |
| 23:46.46 | Fatal5101 | that im not seeing |
| 23:46.50 | RickA | You can suck my SC2mapper |
| 23:46.53 | RickA | Yes |
| 23:47.11 | onetwo | only if it's sixenches |
| 23:47.14 | onetwo | :D:D |
| 23:47.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Seyon (~chatzilla@124.40.58.162) |
| 23:48.05 | Pandepic | I hate having so many map ideas |
| 23:48.09 | Pandepic | and trying to just finish one of them |
| 23:48.28 | DarkPrince | has non |
| 23:49.52 | Pandepic | do a tutorial on that onetwo |
| 23:50.02 | onetwo | on what |
| 23:50.06 | onetwo | sucking sc2mapster? |
| 23:50.09 | onetwo | :O |
| 23:50.22 | Pandepic | on not jumping between 10 map projects =P |
| 23:50.28 | onetwo | hahah |
| 23:50.32 | onetwo | unfortuinately my war3 history |
| 23:50.37 | onetwo | would greatly object |
| 23:50.44 | onetwo | aka 20 unfinished maps |
| 23:50.59 | Cloudwolf | hmm O.o i can't select regions any more> |
| 23:51.01 | Cloudwolf | ? |
| 23:51.14 | Cloudwolf | i dont want to convert paramters to a region i want to select apremade region D: |
| 23:51.24 | Pandepic | I stopped making anything for wc3 |
| 23:51.28 | Cloudwolf | nvm |
| 23:51.30 | Pandepic | everyone just stole maps there |
| 23:51.33 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171930882&sid=5000 |
| 23:51.38 | onetwo | patch 15 |
| 23:51.41 | onetwo | before the end of phase 1? |
| 23:51.44 | onetwo | i guess |
| 23:51.54 | Pandepic | also nobody wanted to play my space battle flight simulator =( |
| 23:52.58 | Werepenguin | ahhh...can't find an action to award a unit xp |
| 23:53.29 | Sixen | Jesus christ |
| 23:53.30 | Sixen | Another wipe.. |
| 23:53.33 | onetwo | i guess theres no simple way to make it so all hero abilities |
| 23:53.37 | Pandepic | another wipe? |
| 23:53.38 | onetwo | have a critical strike chance |
| 23:53.42 | onetwo | outside of multiple effects |
| 23:53.44 | onetwo | with chances |
| 23:53.45 | onetwo | or something |
| 23:53.55 | onetwo | yeah |
| 23:54.01 | onetwo | coming soon to a theatre near you |
| 23:54.03 | onetwo | another wipe! |
| 23:54.11 | Pandepic | lol |
| 23:54.14 | Sixen | Great |
| 23:54.19 | Pandepic | lucky I didn't bother playing any ladder lately anyway |
| 23:54.23 | onetwo | kind of good i have way too many people on my friends |
| 23:54.28 | onetwo | that randoml found me online |
| 23:54.41 | onetwo | hope we get unique names |
| 23:54.42 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen |
| 23:54.42 | onetwo | back |
| 23:55.04 | onetwo | honestly... patch 15 soon... then beta ends on monday... then 2-3 weeks of no beta... |
| 23:55.06 | onetwo | seems too soon |
| 23:55.10 | Pandepic | yeah non unique names is pretty stupid |
| 23:55.18 | Pandepic | so many "Idra" players on ladder lol |
| 23:55.22 | onetwo | seriously after the reset... i rushed home from work |
| 23:55.26 | onetwo | to get onetwo |
| 23:55.30 | Sixen | Yeah TLM? |
| 23:55.31 | onetwo | cause last time i had to name myself one.too |
| 23:55.39 | onetwo | and then i didnt even have to |
| 23:55.40 | Sixen | Yeah, I remeber that, :X |
| 23:55.44 | Pandepic | lol |
| 23:55.52 | TheLaughingMan | Patch 15 is going to go out when the beta is down and there going to prevent people from posting on the forums XP |
| 23:56.04 | onetwo | :O |
| 23:56.30 | Lyrrad | most people don't have anyhting worth say on the forums, so it would probably be an improvement |
| 23:56.31 | TheLaughingMan | Full Wipe! Hahaha you can't make your characters so no postings for yous! |
| 23:56.43 | Stripe | okay actually the european beta ends on the 2th of JULY |
| 23:56.47 | Pandepic | loool |
| 23:56.51 | TheLaughingMan | 2th? |
| 23:56.52 | Pandepic | in the patch 15 thread |
| 23:56.53 | Pandepic | "I wonder what new bugs will come with this" |
| 23:56.53 | onetwo | wtf stripe? |
| 23:56.56 | onetwo | 2nd of july? |
| 23:57.07 | Pandepic | seems like every new patch lately breaks something new |
| 23:57.19 | onetwo | meh, patch 13 was great for the editor |
| 23:57.23 | onetwo | added veterancy stuff |
| 23:57.26 | onetwo | tabs in + views |
| 23:57.28 | onetwo | in data editor |
| 23:57.30 | onetwo | etc |
| 23:57.35 | Stripe | so when does the American beta ends? |
| 23:57.36 | TheLaughingMan | I was surprissed for a blue responding in the Map development |
| 23:57.41 | onetwo | 4 days |
| 23:57.45 | onetwo | then itll be gone for 2-3 weeks |
| 23:57.48 | onetwo | then itll be back up |
| 23:57.51 | onetwo | yeah |
| 23:57.59 | onetwo | i like it though |
| 23:58.02 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen, I need textToString for my serialization |
| 23:58.33 | Pandepic | funny that these people get upset about their league placement getting reset |
| 23:58.34 | Pandepic | ...in a beta |
| 23:58.45 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:58.48 | onetwo | its natural though |
| 23:58.52 | Sixen | :| |
| 23:58.53 | onetwo | the beta has been going for so long |
| 23:58.56 | Sixen | Did you try what Tam said? |
| 23:59.01 | onetwo | people have developed entitlement over testing |
| 23:59.03 | onetwo | mentality |
| 23:59.09 | Sixen | And yeah, Rotide is the Editor Forum guy |
| 23:59.16 | Sixen | (Check his name backwards, :P) |
| 23:59.21 | Pandepic | I usually just do the placement matches |
| 23:59.21 | Sixen | Rotide == editoR |
| 23:59.27 | Pandepic | ladder is a bit stupid to play on lately anyway |
| 23:59.35 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen, I am tempted however a blue responded |
| 23:59.50 | Stripe | there are a lot of guys flaming blizzard for greating "such a bullshit with all this bugs" ... they all forget that they are "chosen" to find this bugs -.- |
