| 00:00.01 | Shmack | lol |
| 00:00.08 | RodOfNOD | u do wc3 modding? |
| 00:00.18 | Shmack | na :/ |
| 00:00.36 | RodOfNOD | well u need to play cuz there are always bugs and always weird shit that are not bugs but feel like bugs |
| 00:00.47 | Shmack | so much to learn with this editor |
| 00:00.55 | RodOfNOD | yep its like 5 x what wc3 was |
| 00:00.58 | Deuce | followup question then: to make this function pick only humans, condition to apply with an If statement: "Playing" ?\ |
| 00:01.09 | RodOfNOD | but with complexity comes power so |
| 00:01.12 | Shmack | but that is good though 5x more you can do with it |
| 00:01.17 | wOlfLinG | i need trigger help |
| 00:01.19 | Deuce | If (picked player) = Playing? |
| 00:01.36 | Reactorex | What trig, wolf? |
| 00:01.54 | RodOfNOD | guys if your going to ask for help on code u really need to be specific SO post it the code here so people can look at it: http://pastebin.com/ |
| 00:02.17 | depthsofchaos | if a unit burrows does it have the same id that its assigned before the morph? |
| 00:02.37 | RodOfNOD | what u mean by ID |
| 00:02.37 | depthsofchaos | i mean if i put it in a unit group for ex |
| 00:03.29 | depthsofchaos | can i still refer to it |
| 00:03.29 | RodOfNOD | it should |
| 00:03.29 | wOlfLinG | I have a trigger that spawns a broodling next to a building group every 0.1 seconds. However, i also want a zergling to spawn next to a differant building every 0.1 and a zealot next to a third building every 0.5. I cant see how to do this apart from making everything happen every 0.5 and 0.1 seconds |
| 00:03.29 | RodOfNOD | in wc3 it would |
| 00:03.33 | Lyrrad | Wolf - yu can use a behaviour to spawn units |
| 00:03.43 | Deuce | well for one, your map will crash every computer that plays it... |
| 00:03.51 | wOlfLinG | So thats how i do it >< |
| 00:03.54 | RodOfNOD | that is a bit of units |
| 00:04.06 | RodOfNOD | 10 units a second |
| 00:04.08 | RodOfNOD | is alot |
| 00:04.12 | wOlfLinG | I was told it was only possible in the triggers :P |
| 00:04.15 | Deuce | yeah a behavior added to the building would be a clean way to do it |
| 00:04.17 | Lyrrad | There is a behaviour of Type "Spawn" |
| 00:04.18 | Deuce | triggers can work also |
| 00:04.27 | Lyrrad | Hatcheries use it to spawn larva |
| 00:04.36 | RodOfNOD | whats the problem wolfling? |
| 00:04.39 | wOlfLinG | ok, maybe less units per second, but the broodlings have to be every 0.1 seconds |
| 00:05.11 | Deuce | no seriously within two minutes you'll be past your computer's capacity |
| 00:05.25 | Lyrrad | depends on how fast they die |
| 00:05.47 | Deuce | honestly I think the combat required to make them all die would just make things worse :D |
| 00:05.54 | RodOfNOD | rule #42: just because u want it done one way doesnt mean you should. :> |
| 00:06.01 | heysparky | I made a structure into a unit (sorta) and now I can't select it with other units. The former-structure always gets selected by itself - what to do? |
| 00:06.16 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zergling-wars/. Zergling Wars. TheCondor07 (Manager/Author), Kurodragon (Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 00:06.24 | wOlfLinG | so would 1 second for a ling be good and 5 for a zeal? |
| 00:06.40 | Deuce | that will be easier on your machine by far |
| 00:07.01 | Lyrrad | Without knowing what you want to do its hard to say |
| 00:07.20 | Deuce | if you want to test that stuff out, try one of those madness type maps |
| 00:07.23 | wOlfLinG | Well, its sortof a TDish thing, but two teams vs each other |
| 00:07.25 | heysparky | Lyrrad, data guy, how do I fix my strcuture/unit selection thing? |
| 00:07.37 | wOlfLinG | I want a constant stream of lings/ zeals to the enemys base |
| 00:08.05 | Deuce | i see |
| 00:08.05 | Lyrrad | delete the structure, then it won;t be a problem |
| 00:08.18 | wOlfLinG | Ya, but the structure is important |
| 00:08.25 | wOlfLinG | Its what needs to die to win |
| 00:08.25 | Lyrrad | I was talking to sparky |
| 00:08.31 | wOlfLinG | ah, sorry xD |
| 00:08.51 | Deuce | wolf - best part about the editor is you can always try different values |
| 00:08.58 | Deuce | start off with the 1s/5s spawn and see how it goes |
| 00:09.03 | Deuce | if it's not enough, speed it up a little |
| 00:09.24 | Ignorance | So, who needs help? |
| 00:09.37 | heysparky | Lyrrad, was that a genuine suggestion? |
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| 00:09.52 | Lyrrad | no, not really |
| 00:09.57 | heysparky | Ah |
| 00:10.14 | Lyrrad | It would solve the problem tho :-) |
| 00:10.15 | Deuce | If (Picked Player) = Playing <<<< will this return only human players and not computers? |
| 00:10.17 | heysparky | Ignorance |
| 00:10.21 | heysparky | I need something |
| 00:10.24 | Ignorance | yeah? |
| 00:10.33 | Ignorance | Deuce, I believe so. |
| 00:10.44 | heysparky | I need to figure out how to get a unit that used to be a structure to select with other units |
| 00:10.45 | wOlfLinG | also, how do i make building only placeable in certain areas and spawned units move in a path? |
| 00:11.02 | Polarn | Question, where are the maps saved locally? How can I open an existing map with the editor and how can I play a map I've downloaded from any kind of sc2 map website? |
| 00:11.07 | Ignorance | Are you using a transformation similar to the viking? |
| 00:11.13 | RodOfNOD | goddamn it i have water that doesnt stop people walking on it :P |
| 00:11.14 | Ignorance | If so, you shouldn't have any problems. |
| 00:11.17 | heysparky | No, it's a Hive with Queen actor |
| 00:11.26 | Ignorance | That's no unit! |
| 00:11.37 | heysparky | By data she is |
| 00:11.41 | Deuce | wolfling - there's a "no build" brush or something like that |
| 00:11.46 | Ignorance | it's probably one of the flags on the hive that does it |
| 00:11.53 | heysparky | yeah, I can't find it |
| 00:11.54 | Deuce | it lets you paint certain areas as off limits to construction |
| 00:12.06 | heysparky | I tried changing her subgroup priority (whatever that is) and that wasn't it... : / |
| 00:12.11 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 00:12.15 | Lyrrad | Rod - need to head over to the pathing section of the terrain editor and paint the water no pathing |
| 00:12.41 | Lyrrad | Yeah, I thought flags, but there isn;t anything in there that looks like it should break it |
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| 00:13.27 | Ignorance | attributes - structure? |
| 00:13.39 | heysparky | oh... looking looking |
| 00:13.56 | RodOfNOD | lyrrad: ty where exactly |
| 00:14.30 | heysparky | the tooltip on that says it's an armor thing... but maybe it has Secret Powers |
| 00:14.35 | Lyrrad | If you are in the terrain editor, I believe 'H' will switch to pathing |
| 00:15.11 | Lyrrad | The one of the option is to paint no pathing |
| 00:15.33 | Lyrrad | and when you paint it will go red(unless its in the water which you can't see, which is really annoying) |
| 00:15.49 | Lyrrad | but it still paints it |
| 00:16.21 | DuskDesertdude | is there anyway to make an SCV repair a unit that doesnt have full health within a region? |
| 00:16.38 | RodOfNOD | Lyrrad: ah the joys of new power mwhahah ty :> |
| 00:17.18 | RodOfNOD | i assume we can make boats float do u happen to know? |
| 00:17.41 | Lyrrad | thats a little harder |
| 00:18.12 | Lyrrad | since you just painted the water no pathing |
| 00:18.15 | RodOfNOD | isnt just a unit setting on the unit type based on the walk? |
| 00:18.20 | Lyrrad | it would need to be an air unit |
| 00:18.36 | Lyrrad | at which point it will happily wander all over the land too |
| 00:18.36 | RodOfNOD | there is no water based floating? |
| 00:18.39 | RodOfNOD | wtf is blizzard thinking |
| 00:19.02 | RodOfNOD | how will i make my risk map without wonderful boats :P |
| 00:19.05 | Lyrrad | who needs water ships when you got space ships |
| 00:19.16 | RodOfNOD | ^^ |
| 00:19.20 | rrowland | It doesn't need to be an air unit silly |
| 00:19.21 | RodOfNOD | i do dammit |
| 00:19.37 | rrowland | Set it to ignore terrain |
| 00:19.40 | Deuce | no pathing means no ground movement :( |
| 00:19.50 | rrowland | And set its height to the water's height |
| 00:20.02 | rrowland | And if it tries to move to a spot where the terrain is higher than water, don't let it |
| 00:20.03 | Lyrrad | rrow, what will stop it from wandering all over the ground? |
| 00:20.03 | wOlfLinG | Btw, how do i rotate the camera in the terrain editor? |
| 00:20.05 | rrowland | Bam you have a boat |
| 00:20.21 | Deuce | wolf - hold control |
| 00:20.24 | wOlfLinG | k. ty |
| 00:20.26 | RodOfNOD | control right click |
| 00:20.28 | Deuce | and right click |
| 00:20.39 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean by dont let it |
| 00:20.41 | RodOfNOD | is that a trigger? |
| 00:20.42 | rrowland | Easy, you compare the water level to the WorldHeight |
| 00:20.45 | Polarn | Guys, how can I access a map that's not locked for editing in the editor? |
| 00:20.54 | RodOfNOD | all the time for every unit? |
| 00:20.54 | rrowland | If world height is higher then it's land |
| 00:20.58 | RodOfNOD | are u kidding me? |
| 00:21.11 | RodOfNOD | what if i have 200 boats on the water |
| 00:21.31 | RodOfNOD | seriously blizzard doesnt have float and amphib? |
| 00:21.43 | Lyrrad | because its not part of the game |
| 00:21.47 | RodOfNOD | i was joking |
| 00:21.49 | RodOfNOD | so they ahve LOTS |
| 00:21.52 | RodOfNOD | that isnt in the game |
| 00:22.20 | Lyrrad | because its starcraft and not puddlecraft |
| 00:22.47 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:22.58 | rrowland | You only need 1 trigger |
| 00:23.04 | rrowland | if any unit uses the ability move |
| 00:23.11 | rrowland | Check to see if its target is on land |
| 00:23.15 | rrowland | If it is, don't let it move |
| 00:23.21 | RodOfNOD | ok but |
| 00:23.27 | RodOfNOD | in wc3 moves that wre automatic |
| 00:23.33 | RodOfNOD | didnt generate a event |
| 00:23.39 | rrowland | This isn't WC3 so I don't care |
| 00:23.46 | rrowland | I'm not here to talk about WC3 |
| 00:24.10 | RodOfNOD | ok i will try :> |
| 00:24.16 | Lyrrad | wow rrow, you are grouchy today |
| 00:24.24 | rrowland | AI is fucking stupid |
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| 00:24.46 | Lyrrad | Now you know why I decided to sit this contest out |
| 00:24.50 | Shmack | HURRA!! i fuxed it not more floating units!! |
| 00:25.18 | rrowland | My AI is gonna be sweet |
| 00:25.22 | rrowland | When I'm done pulling my hair out |
| 00:25.38 | Lyrrad | scv rush? |
| 00:25.55 | RodOfNOD | what exactly does ground pathing mean different than not having it chosen for a unit? |
| 00:26.25 | Lyrrad | I have no idea what you just asked |
| 00:26.50 | DuskDesertdude | how do i make a unit group? |
| 00:26.57 | DuskDesertdude | since making a Unit Group Variable doesnt seem to be it |
| 00:27.05 | RodOfNOD | ok on the pathing browser i can pick Type as no pathing what does ground mean? |
| 00:27.24 | RodOfNOD | what do u want to do dusk? |
| 00:27.38 | DuskDesertdude | i want to spawn a zergling every 10 seconds |
| 00:27.41 | DuskDesertdude | and |
| 00:27.50 | DuskDesertdude | each time a zergling spawns, i want to add it to a unit group |
| 00:27.53 | DuskDesertdude | the same unit group |
| 00:27.59 | Lyrrad | Rod - I think it means you can walk there, even when you normally couldn't |
| 00:28.10 | Deuce | you need another action to add that unit to an existing unit group |
| 00:28.23 | DuskDesertdude | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.26 | DuskDesertdude | doesnt work |
| 00:28.33 | DuskDesertdude | because SCV Army is a variable |
| 00:28.34 | DuskDesertdude | not a value |
| 00:28.36 | RodOfNOD | PLREASE |
| 00:28.39 | RodOfNOD | DO NOT POST here |
| 00:28.41 | RodOfNOD | pst at the bin |
| 00:28.46 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/ |
| 00:28.49 | rrowland | Uh |
| 00:28.53 | rrowland | It was a single line |
| 00:28.55 | rrowland | Chill out |
| 00:28.58 | DuskDesertdude | yea lol |
| 00:29.00 | RodOfNOD | still painful :P |
| 00:29.06 | RodOfNOD | so hard to read like that |
| 00:29.17 | RodOfNOD | its my pet peeve |
| 00:29.18 | DuskDesertdude | anyways |
| 00:29.27 | DuskDesertdude | when i do the second action |
| 00:29.28 | Deuce | huh. looks like it should work Dusk, but I'm noobish |
| 00:29.30 | DuskDesertdude | Unit Group - Add |
| 00:29.33 | rrowland | Pet peeves are for homos |
| 00:29.39 | DuskDesertdude | it asks for a value |
| 00:29.41 | DuskDesertdude | and there are none |
| 00:29.48 | DuskDesertdude | so i choose a global variable i made called SCV Army |
| 00:29.50 | RodOfNOD | did u initialze the group? |
| 00:29.52 | DuskDesertdude | how do i make a value? |
| 00:29.56 | DuskDesertdude | what do u mean |
| 00:30.04 | RodOfNOD | well in wc3 u had to initialize it |
| 00:30.07 | RodOfNOD | let me see |
| 00:31.44 | rrowland | Victory! |
| 00:31.46 | rrowland | Take that AI |
| 00:32.01 | Lyrrad | You got it to build an scv? |
| 00:32.33 | DuskDesertdude | yea |
| 00:32.35 | DuskDesertdude | wait |
| 00:32.36 | DuskDesertdude | who |
| 00:32.41 | rrowland | lol |
| 00:32.45 | Lyrrad | I am taunting rrow |
| 00:33.02 | DuskDesertdude | o i need help with an SCV issue atm |
| 00:33.02 | DuskDesertdude | lol |
| 00:33.13 | DuskDesertdude | more of a unit grp issue |
| 00:36.01 | wOlfLinG | Right, how do i make spawned units follow a path? |
| 00:36.02 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zergling-assault/. Zergling Assault!. vindKtiv (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 00:36.53 | wOlfLinG | Anyone? This is stopping me testing my map atm xD |
| 00:37.01 | Deuce | wolf - create points along the path. issue move/attack orders |
| 00:38.45 | RodOfNOD | dusk: http://pastebin.com/wSjqGD6q |
| 00:39.37 | RodOfNOD | i assume its not a straight point |
| 00:39.41 | RodOfNOD | do these units attack or just move |
| 00:39.50 | RodOfNOD | will they stop if they are attacked |
| 00:39.54 | RodOfNOD | or is this a td idea |
| 00:40.16 | RodOfNOD | wolfling ^ |
| 00:40.18 | wOlfLinG | TDish |
| 00:40.28 | RodOfNOD | so do they attack or just move |
| 00:40.41 | wOlfLinG | attack move to the enemys building |
| 00:40.49 | RodOfNOD | if i get in the way will they attack me? |
| 00:40.59 | wOlfLinG | they should |
| 00:41.09 | RodOfNOD | ok well then just order them to attack move to the building |
| 00:41.13 | RodOfNOD | they will find the best path |
| 00:42.31 | DuskDesertdude | so apparently Repair is broken under the Issue Order command |
| 00:42.32 | DuskDesertdude | WTF |
| 00:43.28 | DuskDesertdude | ugh there must be a way |
| 00:43.35 | DuskDesertdude | maybe its something in the data editor of the repair ability |
| 00:44.03 | Lyrrad | a way to what? |
| 00:44.24 | DuskDesertdude | theres no way to make a unit repair via the Issue Order action |
| 00:44.39 | wOlfLinG | so what would be the trigger to get all player 1s lings to a-move to a point? |
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| 00:44.55 | DuskDesertdude | unit |
| 00:44.58 | DuskDesertdude | issue order to unit grp |
| 00:45.02 | DuskDesertdude | wait |
| 00:45.03 | DuskDesertdude | idk |
| 00:45.13 | Lyrrad | what would work |
| 00:45.15 | DuskDesertdude | condition Owner of Triggering Unit ==1 |
| 00:47.19 | DuskDesertdude | WTF HOW DID THAT NOT WORK |
| 00:47.21 | DuskDesertdude | AUGHG |
| 00:47.59 | DuskDesertdude | hrm, i just had an epiphany |
| 00:49.03 | wOlfLinG | Ive sorta got it. However, attack and attack-move arnt in the ability selection tab :/ |
| 00:49.46 | DuskDesertdude | ok. |
| 00:49.49 | DuskDesertdude | when in the world. |
| 00:49.53 | DuskDesertdude | did Repair start costing vespene |
| 00:50.21 | Lyrrad | Since someone added it to the cost of repairing |
| 00:50.38 | Lyrrad | Units have a field that controls how much they cost to repair |
| 00:51.13 | Lyrrad | Its called "Repair Resource" |
| 00:51.17 | wOlfLinG | Repair cost vespene since 1998. Or whenever SC1 came out |
| 00:52.16 | DuskDesertdude | wow |
| 00:52.17 | DuskDesertdude | lol |
| 00:52.21 | DuskDesertdude | always thot it was just minerals |
| 00:52.36 | Lyrrad | hings that cost gas to make, cost gas to repair |
| 00:52.54 | ScytheBlade1 | SC1 command center requires no gas to repair |
| 00:52.58 | wOlfLinG | Think ive got it :) |
| 00:53.00 | DuskDesertdude | anyways my map is beautiful now. just an empty test map with 20 siege tanks that spawn, move forward, and enter siege mode. then waves of hydralisks come, and i have a team of scv's fantically running around repairing all the tanks. |
| 00:53.05 | DuskDesertdude | lol ill definitely use this in a map |
| 00:53.05 | Lyrrad | They also cost no gas to make |
| 00:53.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I always thought that the repair costs, both minerals and gas, scaled with base cost |
| 00:53.42 | Lyrrad | can't remember in sc1, but in sc2 they have their own seperate entry |
| 00:53.58 | Skizot | hello ladies |
| 00:54.34 | AsaPhelps | Hey there sexy man |
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| 00:55.04 | DarkPrince | Question... as always. Unit in Region I thought does what it sounds, but how can I do any unit of type X in region? :P |
| 00:55.42 | DarkPrince | Wow that made no sense. Unit in Region asks for a specific unit rather than a type of unit... |
| 00:56.18 | Reactorex | Unit in Region Matching Condition |
| 00:56.22 | Reactorex | Any unit. |
| 00:56.28 | Reactorex | Matching your type. |
| 00:56.40 | Sozer | yeah |
| 00:56.58 | Sozer | as an action its under the unit category |
| 00:57.11 | Sozer | unit enters/leaves region |
| 00:57.36 | heysparky | Ignorance, Lyrrad - that was it btw, unchecking Structure in Attributes |
| 00:57.44 | heysparky | made the Hive Mother selectable with other units |
| 00:58.23 | DarkPrince | So what would the Unit Group (last parameter) be? |
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| 00:59.27 | wOlfLinG | Woot! Map version 0.1 is complete! Now to test :D |
| 01:00.49 | Deuce | make sure you go to an internet cafe |
| 01:00.54 | Deuce | after your computer explodes |
| 01:01.02 | Deuce | let us know what happened |
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| 01:02.13 | Skizot | Rockj |
| 01:02.15 | Skizot | errr |
| 01:02.17 | Skizot | RodOfNOD |
| 01:03.04 | wOlfLinG | 1) alliances is bugged, 2) Its still auto-lose at start, 3) Loads of zeals spawn at once, then they die when a new one spawns etc |
| 01:03.42 | Lyrrad | Wolf - Did you delete the Melee Init trigger? |
| 01:03.42 | Deuce | wolf - #2: remove the melee victory conditions trigger |
| 01:04.06 | rrowland | Weird. My AI correctly loads a probe into a warp prism to expand |
| 01:04.17 | rrowland | But then it moves over unwalkable terrain and idles there forever |
| 01:04.23 | Lyrrad | damn, that is really odd |
| 01:04.26 | rrowland | To expand to an island |
| 01:05.48 | Reactorex | Update!: |
| 01:06.06 | Reactorex | I'm now able to set computers and closed slots in the (Player) Controller variant. :) |
| 01:06.32 | Reactorex | A day or two ago, it would return a "Header is corrupt" message upon publishing. |
| 01:06.39 | Reactorex | User still seems to return a corrupt header. |
| 01:07.02 | Lyrrad | don't worry, it'll break something else |
| 01:07.24 | Sozer | when placing units |
| 01:07.56 | Sozer | is there a way to de select what you've last selected to create |
| 01:09.37 | Sozer | nvm got it |
| 01:09.51 | Alpha_vst | how do i change a untis minimap color? |
| 01:11.43 | Polarn | How can I define a starting position for a normal melee map? |
| 01:12.02 | wOlfLinG | Theres a starting point function somewhere |
| 01:12.02 | Martul | Still no one has tried to prove me wrong...so I'm still right then |
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| 01:12.57 | Reactorex | So you're still wrong ATM, Martul. |
| 01:12.57 | wOlfLinG | AH FUCK NO! The galaxy editor has stopped responding and i havnt saved for an hour or so >:[ |
| 01:13.10 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 01:13.14 | Alpha_vst | save often or auto save |
| 01:13.15 | P_R_Deltoid | at least it's a good reminder to save more often |
| 01:13.27 | wOlfLinG | when does it autsave? |
| 01:13.34 | Alpha_vst | it doesnt unless you set it to |
| 01:13.40 | Lyrrad | it doesn't unless you tell it to |
| 01:13.45 | wOlfLinG | think it is set to autosave |
| 01:14.26 | malu05 | Anyone here on Battlenet Europe atm and got some time to spare (5 minutes)? |
| 01:15.11 | Reactorex | Woot. |
| 01:15.17 | wOlfLinG | Ok, how do i set it to autosave now? |
| 01:15.21 | Reactorex | I just narrowed down "Default values are not valid" from the player properties. |
| 01:15.44 | Polarn | Sure malu05? |
| 01:16.15 | wOlfLinG | anyone? |
| 01:16.37 | malu05 | super |
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| 01:17.21 | deathnight114_ | Blizzard has disappointed me |
| 01:17.23 | deathnight114_ | :/ |
| 01:17.24 | deathnight114_ | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25172118191&sid=3000 |
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| 01:19.59 | Lyrrad | so blizzard disappoints you because there are a bunch of whiners? |
| 01:20.48 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 01:20.53 | wOlfLinG | Any way to recover lost work? :( |
| 01:20.59 | RodOfNOD | well the article has good points that hopefully will be addressed |
| 01:21.06 | RodOfNOD | backup ur files |
| 01:21.17 | wOlfLinG | as in work that ive just lost -.- |
| 01:21.27 | wOlfLinG | i really dont want to do all that again |
| 01:21.28 | RodOfNOD | i have lost more work in one session than u will ever lose in ur life |
| 01:21.32 | Lyrrad | yes, but its the billionth time each of those has been mentioned |
| 01:21.44 | RodOfNOD | ah i dont read the forums much hehe |
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| 01:22.10 | wOlfLinG | Meh, ill just do a DotA clone for a bit |
| 01:22.22 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know how to restrict warp in to the same cliff level ?:o |
| 01:22.27 | depthsofchaos | cant find the validators field |
| 01:23.06 | Reactorex | I've got a lot of harvested information about publishing errors now. :3 |
| 01:23.29 | Reactorex | I've been working more on publishing errors than I have my own map. >_> |
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| 01:26.17 | DuskDesertdude | QUICK whats that show with the chick with pink hair |
| 01:26.20 | DuskDesertdude | kids show |
| 01:26.27 | RickAx | Lazy Town |
| 01:26.28 | DuskDesertdude | something town |
| 01:26.30 | DuskDesertdude | i think |
| 01:26.31 | DuskDesertdude | YAY |
| 01:26.36 | RickAx | She's hot |
| 01:26.50 | wOlfLinG | How does this sound: You pick a unit (of any race. Stats are the same, just it looks differant depending on the unit) and then fight smaller units and other enemy heros until you can get enough for an upgrade (eg you get a cloak or blink etc). You level up and get more powerful and can buy extra weapons etc |
| 01:27.21 | RickAx | Why wouldn't you just pick the biggest unit then? |
| 01:27.36 | wOlfLinG | Well, its just for looks |
| 01:27.42 | Sozer | also as you level up the model size of your unit increases |
| 01:27.46 | Sozer | :) |
| 01:27.47 | wOlfLinG | The stats of a thor would be the same as a marine at the start |
| 01:27.51 | RickAx | oh |
| 01:28.13 | Fatal510 | what do you do when a tower you made is not showing the projectile? |
| 01:28.27 | DuskDesertdude | cry |
| 01:28.30 | RickAx | I think, that if you're going to make a shitty rpg, you should make a shitty RPG with me. |
| 01:28.37 | wOlfLinG | although model size is good. Maybe i can do a ling/ marine/ zeal choice then switch the model as you level |
| 01:28.43 | RickAx | Fatal: You change the launch missile |
| 01:29.17 | Fatal510 | change it to what? |
| 01:29.24 | Fatal510 | the weapon is calling the right launch effect |
| 01:29.25 | DuskDesertdude | u shld be able to sacrifice ur starter units for better ones once they hit a lvl. i.e. u can sacrifice a lvl 5 marine for a lvl 1 reaper. or a lvl 6 zergling for a lvl 1 hydralisk |
| 01:29.28 | RickAx | A launch missile that you know works |
| 01:29.48 | Fatal510 | i have noticed when you make a copy of a unit if you copy EVERYTHING you dont get these kinds of issues |
| 01:29.53 | wOlfLinG | ya, thats good. However, upgrades could be bit worthless then |
| 01:30.02 | RickAx | Or just acknowledge that zerg is the best race, and let you change a lvl 1 zergling for a level 1 hydra and a lvl 1 hydra for a lvl 1 brood lord |
| 01:30.10 | DuskDesertdude | lol |
| 01:30.13 | wOlfLinG | ya, that would work :D |
| 01:30.26 | RickAx | Fatal: The only thing you need to copy is actor |
| 01:30.27 | Sozer | is it possible to do a reward system with 1 tigger? like kill unit and gain minerals?? |
| 01:30.34 | RickAx | Yes |
| 01:30.44 | RodOfNOD | isnt that part of bounty automagically? |
| 01:30.56 | RickAx | a unit dies - add 1 mineral to (owner of (killing unit)) |
| 01:31.08 | wOlfLinG | What about heros? |
| 01:31.16 | wOlfLinG | I want 10 minerals per dead hero |
| 01:31.26 | RodOfNOD | isnt there bounty? |
| 01:31.32 | Sozer | but in the data editor for all units buildings theres a reward option... so each individual unit has its own value |
| 01:31.48 | RodOfNOD | exactly what i thought |
| 01:31.52 | RickAx | Maybe he's a communist who wants all units to be equal |
| 01:31.59 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 01:32.00 | RickAx | and its too much work to change them all to 1 |
| 01:32.01 | Sozer | i dunno the trigger that correlates with that value to reward it though |
| 01:32.02 | RodOfNOD | then make them all equal |
| 01:32.06 | RickAx | quit being insensitive |
| 01:32.23 | RodOfNOD | insensitive to commies? :P |
| 01:32.29 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 01:32.33 | RickAx | communists are people too |
| 01:32.39 | RodOfNOD | kinda :P |
| 01:32.43 | RickAx | in fact, they're more equal people than you are |
| 01:32.56 | RodOfNOD | hehe by definition i guess ur right lol |
| 01:33.21 | Sozer | does anyone know the trigger variable? |
| 01:33.22 | wOlfLinG | Qui' tha commeh tal' ya na-good sahn affa bish! |
| 01:34.34 | wOlfLinG | Ah, come on! That was gold, that was XD |
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| 01:40.48 | wOlfLinG | A tech tree could be: Marine > marauder > thor; zergling > hydralisk > mutalisk and zealot > stalker > immortal (with an AA attack) |
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| 01:44.48 | Werepenguin | How do I decide what splash damage can deal damage to? Cause now it's killing "invulnarable" units for me :) |
| 01:45.06 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 01:45.40 | Sozer | invulnerable means if their IN the splash... then their vulnerable lol |
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| 01:45.51 | Sozer | duuhhh |
| 01:46.04 | Werepenguin | hah |
| 01:46.19 | wOlfLinG | Its in the weapons flags i think |
| 01:46.32 | Sozer | im struggling finding the trigger for killing a certain unit in a certain region |
| 01:49.21 | RickAx | Reactor your topic sucks |
| 01:49.52 | P_R_Deltoid | anyone see a project working on squad mechanics around? Like DOW or COD squad mechanics. |
| 01:51.32 | RickAx | I heard of one |
| 01:51.41 | RickAx | I don't recall anything about it though. |
| 01:52.09 | RickAx | They were talking about using the brood lord's ability to keep units together in a squad. Search for brood lord maybe. |
| 01:53.09 | P_R_Deltoid | clever |
| 01:53.17 | P_R_Deltoid | I was just thinking of forcing unit selection. |
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| 01:54.30 | Judgment38 | Anyone here know why every single event/condition/action involving unit groups stopped working for me? |
| 01:55.02 | P_R_Deltoid | Just... suddenly? |
| 01:55.06 | ekcolnovkol | magic |
| 01:55.08 | ekcolnovkol | o.o |
| 01:55.16 | Judgment38 | After I deleted a unit group that was in several triggers |
| 01:55.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Problem number 1. |
| 01:55.27 | P_R_Deltoid | YOu did that. |
| 01:55.36 | Judgment38 | now no unit group action/event/condition does regardless if it has to do with that group :( |
| 01:56.29 | wOlfLinG | How do i make an ability only show up when its been researched rather than being greyed out? |
| 01:56.42 | Judgment38 | any ideas how to fix? |
| 01:56.43 | Reactorex | Thanks, RickAx? :P |
| 01:56.47 | RickAx | np |
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| 01:57.37 | Reactorex | I can make it suckier. x3 |
| 01:57.52 | Reactorex | Albeit that not being a word. |
| 01:58.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Is the "Cannot Be Clicked" flag somehow misleading? Everything has it. |
| 02:00.32 | RodOfNOD | Werepenguin - were u serious about the invulnerable deal?\ |
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| 02:02.00 | P_R_Deltoid | aww |
| 02:02.05 | P_R_Deltoid | marine broodlings |
| 02:04.45 | Sozer | hey |
| 02:05.22 | Sozer | what is the action for rewarding a kill |
| 02:05.46 | Lyrrad | what are you trying to reward? |
| 02:05.52 | Sozer | minerals |
| 02:06.12 | Lyrrad | Units have a field on them to give the killing player resources |
| 02:06.12 | Sozer | but in the data editor for all units buildings theres a reward option... so each individual unit has its own value... i'd like to reward that value in minerals |
| 02:06.39 | Sozer | ya |
| 02:06.47 | Sozer | i dunno the action affiliated with that value |
| 02:06.53 | Sozer | been searchin a while now |
| 02:07.05 | Lyrrad | Its called Kill Resource |
| 02:07.22 | P_R_Deltoid | how do I make a flying unit move as if on the ground? |
| 02:07.37 | Sozer | kill resource as an action? |
| 02:07.50 | Lyrrad | Deltoid have you tried changing its height? |
| 02:07.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Uh |
| 02:08.09 | Lyrrad | Kill Resource on the unit, in the data editor |
| 02:08.09 | P_R_Deltoid | I changed it's... plane array, whatever that is. |
| 02:08.35 | Sozer | yeah but thats just the value... i've set those for the individual unit.. now im looking for the trigger to actually reward it |
| 02:08.38 | Lyrrad | Deltoid - There is a field on units called height, which tells the unit how high above the ground it should be |
| 02:08.51 | Lyrrad | Sozer, no need for a trigger |
| 02:08.56 | P_R_Deltoid | under what tab? |
| 02:09.14 | Lyrrad | I don't know what tab, I use the table view |
| 02:09.32 | Sozer | well its not working and ive set the reward value |
| 02:10.08 | Lyrrad | Sozer - You are you are killing the right unit? I have done it, and it was working fine for me |
| 02:11.27 | Sixen | ~seen onetwo |
| 02:11.29 | purl | onetwo <~ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/x-robtfxbtlvgfwvjj> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 17h 52m 27s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 02:11.30 | Sozer | well im lookin in the data editor and i think i changed the wrong value |
| 02:11.45 | Lyrrad | Sozer - That would do it too :-) |
| 02:11.46 | Sozer | what tab is the kill resource |
| 02:12.34 | Sozer | i was changing Score - Kill undder the Stats tab |
| 02:12.50 | Lyrrad | Kill resource in the combat Tab |
| 02:13.46 | Sozer | theres kill expirence |
| 02:14.03 | Sozer | its default is 10 for this unit |
| 02:14.07 | Sozer | no reward though |
| 02:14.35 | Lyrrad | You want "Kill Resource" |
| 02:14.55 | Lyrrad | Deltoid its under the UI tab |
| 02:15.24 | wOlfLinG | How do i get my cloak to deduct 25 energy when used, but give it back when decloaked? |
| 02:16.23 | Sozer | dont see it at all man |
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| 02:16.48 | largelyrandom | Alter the ability "Uncloak" to grant energy |
| 02:16.54 | largelyrandom | somehow, someway |
| 02:16.57 | wOlfLinG | k |
| 02:17.29 | Lyrrad | Sozer - Do you have advanced values on? |
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| 02:18.05 | Sozer | dunno |
| 02:18.11 | Demo_ | Reactor!! |
| 02:18.18 | Demo_ | Are you here :)? |
| 02:18.33 | Lyrrad | Its one of the buttons beside the search bar |
| 02:19.04 | Lyrrad | ALso, make sure that you have show default values on as well |
| 02:19.08 | Max_Damage | hey guys, when i make a new button for an ability of a unit, where the heck do i change the description that people see in-game when you hover over the button |
| 02:19.37 | Lyrrad | Tooltip, or alert tooltip on the button |
| 02:19.43 | Sozer | ahh thanks man |
| 02:20.09 | Demo_ | Sigh for the life of me I cannot get my map to publish as Public |
| 02:20.30 | Lyrrad | Demo - do you get a corrupt header error? |
| 02:20.39 | Demo_ | I get no errors |
| 02:20.44 | Demo_ | It just uploads it as private |
| 02:20.46 | Demo_ | v0.1 |
| 02:20.54 | Demo_ | and locked no matter what I put it |
| 02:21.08 | Max_Damage | thanks Lyrrad, i don't think i have the button linked |
| 02:21.39 | Lyrrad | Demo - I haven't published anything so I can't really help you there |
| 02:21.40 | Demo_ | I want to upload it as Public, Locked, and V1.0 and it just doesn't love me enough |
| 02:22.18 | Deuce | man I do not understand leaderboards at all |
| 02:22.28 | Lyrrad | Do you have to log on and change it there? |
| 02:22.55 | Demo_ | Not that I know of, it has a choice system |
| 02:23.02 | Demo_ | and it just doesn't let me choose |
| 02:23.09 | Demo_ | it reverts on the upload |
| 02:23.13 | Sozer | whats the trigger to display resource reward over the kill? |
| 02:23.54 | Sozer | nvm |
| 02:24.41 | wOlfLinG | Is there a way to get a toggle ability to apply a behaviour when on and another when off? |
| 02:25.02 | Demo_ | Sigh I think I've got it but I don't like that... |
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| 02:31.05 | Demo_ | How long until a public map will show up on the list? |
| 02:31.31 | rrowland | It needs to be hosted |
| 02:32.12 | Judgment38 | Anyone know why none of my events/conditions/actions with unit groups in them don't work and how to fix it? |
| 02:32.18 | Demo_ | I keep creating it, but I can't tell if it's private or public... |
| 02:35.07 | rrowland | So my probe figures out it can't get to the island expansion |
| 02:35.18 | rrowland | And the AI is smart so it tells the warp prism to pick it up |
| 02:35.20 | rrowland | And it does |
| 02:35.27 | rrowland | But then the warp prism just sits there and does nothing |
| 02:37.50 | wOlfLinG | :( Cant get cloak to reserve energy |
| 02:39.49 | onetwo | sill human |
| 02:39.52 | onetwo | silly* |
| 02:40.31 | wOlfLinG | how can i get energy regen to pause when cloak is active? I want a large regen, but that cancels out the cloak energy drain |
| 02:41.04 | RickAx | Give cloak a large energy drain |
| 02:41.22 | Deuce | Does (Owner of (Killing Unit)) return an integer for the player number? |
| 02:41.27 | RickAx | yes |
| 02:41.30 | wOlfLinG | found it :) |
| 02:41.38 | Deuce | THEN WHY DOESNT THIS WORK AAAAA |
| 02:41.47 | RickAx | What's the trigger? |
| 02:42.37 | onetwo | so the current solution to skipping ability levels for heroes is some sort of requirement/validator doing IsHeroOddLeveled (from what I see on tutorials)... so what if you have an ability that is unlocked at an even level etc... |
| 02:42.43 | onetwo | would we then need a different requirement for these abilities |
| 02:42.48 | onetwo | "IsEvenLeveledHero" |
| 02:43.10 | onetwo | and what if you wanted it to be 3+ levels between training an ability more than once |
| 02:43.35 | RodOfNOD | just punt |
| 02:43.42 | Deuce | http://pastebin.com/C4XvtQgV |
| 02:43.57 | Deuce | Should fire the events if the killing player is from players 1-10, right? |
| 02:44.24 | Deuce | e.g. player 4 kills a zergling. yep. fire the events! |
| 02:44.35 | RodOfNOD | it doesnt? |
| 02:44.41 | Deuce | NO |
| 02:44.47 | RodOfNOD | let me peek |
| 02:45.48 | wOlfLinG | Right, what abilitys should my heros have? |
| 02:45.48 | Deuce | test document puts me as player 1... right? |
| 02:45.58 | onetwo | youre doing heroes wolfling? |
| 02:46.06 | onetwo | have you encountered abilities yet |
| 02:46.10 | wOlfLinG | ya |
| 02:46.20 | wOlfLinG | Ive got a cloaked zergling hero :D |
| 02:46.30 | onetwo | any learned abilities? |
| 02:46.33 | RodOfNOD | deuce |
| 02:46.39 | Deuce | ya |
| 02:46.40 | onetwo | with multiple levels |
| 02:46.42 | onetwo | ? |
| 02:46.43 | RodOfNOD | its cuz u are comparing an int to something that isnt an int |
| 02:46.52 | wOlfLinG | well, if by learned you mean a sub menu with uogrades, yes |
| 02:47.04 | Deuce | which is why I asked if Owner of (Killing Unit) returns an integer |
| 02:47.13 | onetwo | oh, i mean using the data editors "Learn" type of Ability |
| 02:47.14 | wOlfLinG | Im adding in attack upgrades etc soon |
| 02:47.20 | onetwo | like a real war3 hero |
| 02:47.23 | wOlfLinG | ah, no not yet |
| 02:47.25 | onetwo | darn |
| 02:47.29 | RodOfNOD | i dont think so |
| 02:47.46 | wOlfLinG | what does a learn ability do? |
| 02:47.52 | Deuce | hmm |
| 02:47.59 | Deuce | maybe just compare to a playergroup |
| 02:48.32 | onetwo | it gives you a nice way to do heroes like war3 |
| 02:48.49 | wOlfLinG | cool. Ill do some of that then :) |
| 02:49.04 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/1696-data-wc3-esque-hero-ability-training/ |
| 02:49.07 | onetwo | wolfling i learned some from that turoail |
| 02:49.10 | onetwo | tutorial |
| 02:49.22 | Deuce | errr |
| 02:49.23 | wOlfLinG | Must be good if the map god learned something xD |
| 02:49.26 | onetwo | but the issue im having is making it so multi level abilities require every 2nd level |
| 02:49.28 | onetwo | haha |
| 02:49.49 | Deuce | i cant find a comparison for "is killing player a member of playergroup" |
| 02:50.02 | onetwo | im sure you can do that |
| 02:50.04 | RodOfNOD | working on something atm deuce |
| 02:51.45 | wOlfLinG | hmm... a quick skim through seems to find that it requires xp. I havnt implemented xp yet |
| 02:52.36 | onetwo | oh |
| 02:52.39 | onetwo | xp is pretty simple now |
| 02:52.45 | onetwo | just a behavior called veterancy levels |
| 02:52.50 | onetwo | ill be doing a video tutoria |
| 02:52.50 | wOlfLinG | oh, wait. The xp part is to put the xp in xD |
| 02:52.51 | onetwo | tutorial |
| 02:52.58 | onetwo | on this stuff |
| 02:53.01 | onetwo | as soon as i figure out |
| 02:53.04 | onetwo | this one chunk |
| 02:54.31 | largelyrandom | Sc2 has a poor selection of creep mobs : / |
| 02:54.53 | largelyrandom | well, maybe not creep |
| 02:54.54 | Deuce | it has like none :P |
| 02:54.56 | onetwo | until the campaign comes out |
| 02:54.58 | largelyrandom | But not alot of neutral stuff |
| 02:55.01 | Deuce | retail will have it |
| 02:55.05 | largelyrandom | Sounds good |
| 02:55.09 | Deuce | since right now beta is melee-only |
| 02:55.16 | largelyrandom | I'm sorely lacking in the kobold and centaur type stuff |
| 02:55.24 | Deuce | hahaha |
| 02:55.43 | Deuce | well im not sure those will be in retail but I'm sure someone will convert the entire WC3 database over |
| 02:55.50 | largelyrandom | That'd be pretty epic |
| 02:56.02 | largelyrandom | They might look a bit off, graphics being what they are |
| 02:56.11 | P_R_Deltoid | isn't the filetype the same from wc3? |
| 02:56.15 | P_R_Deltoid | like models and textures |
| 02:56.16 | P_R_Deltoid | etc |
| 02:56.50 | Deuce | thinks he has fixed his issue |
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| 02:57.59 | Judgment38 | I don't know but I noticed they didn't change a lot of the icons from the WC3 editor lol |
| 02:58.27 | Sozer | how do you kill 1 unit in a region? |
| 02:58.30 | Sozer | as an action |
| 02:58.43 | ekcolnovkol | i'm reading that bank data is only stored locally and won't become global variables until the actual release |
| 02:58.57 | RodOfNOD | congrats deuce |
| 02:59.00 | onetwo | where are you reading this |
| 02:59.02 | RodOfNOD | i think u u found a bug |
| 02:59.14 | ekcolnovkol | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401617709&sid=5000 |
| 02:59.17 | RodOfNOD | cuz that returns a number for sure |
| 02:59.19 | Judgment38 | Anyone know how I can fix the fact that none of my events/actions/conditions with unit groups work? |
| 02:59.25 | Deuce | was wrong |
| 02:59.26 | ekcolnovkol | second post |
| 02:59.35 | RodOfNOD | did u fix it? |
| 02:59.37 | ekcolnovkol | sixen said it <_< |
| 02:59.40 | RodOfNOD | cuz i have a solution |
| 02:59.42 | Deuce | NOPE |
| 02:59.51 | RodOfNOD | let me test something |
| 03:00.18 | onetwo | haha wtf the old me is in that post |
| 03:00.30 | Deuce | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.46 | ekcolnovkol | is that still true? |
| 03:00.48 | Deuce | since "Player from player group" proclaimed to return an integer |
| 03:00.48 | ekcolnovkol | onetwo |
| 03:00.58 | onetwo | i have no idea |
| 03:01.02 | onetwo | i havent touched banks |
| 03:01.16 | ekcolnovkol | you know how to save hero levels on respawn? |
| 03:01.18 | RodOfNOD | deuce u found a bug in blizzards code |
| 03:01.27 | Deuce | o rly |
| 03:01.30 | RodOfNOD | ya cuz |
| 03:01.32 | RodOfNOD | just a sec |
| 03:01.36 | Deuce | what do I win? |
| 03:01.37 | ekcolnovkol | because i've been trying to use banks to do it |
| 03:01.42 | ekcolnovkol | and it hasn't been working |
| 03:01.49 | onetwo | what do you mean, in the same game? |
| 03:01.56 | ekcolnovkol | well yeah |
| 03:02.03 | onetwo | well with regards to triggers |
| 03:02.12 | onetwo | id just make a global Integer variable |
| 03:02.19 | RodOfNOD | this works |
| 03:02.19 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/Vyi099dC |
| 03:02.27 | RodOfNOD | and it is no different than what u had |
| 03:02.30 | onetwo | and when the hero levels |
| 03:02.33 | Sozer | the action Kill Unit doesnt have any variables in it... how do i make sure it kills 1 unit in a certain region??? |
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| 03:02.35 | onetwo | set this variable to its level |
| 03:02.41 | onetwo | then when respawning, just grab this number |
| 03:02.48 | onetwo | thats the easiest way i would think |
| 03:02.54 | ekcolnovkol | lemme give it a try |
| 03:03.11 | largelyrandom | First you pick a unit in a region, then you kill it |
| 03:03.14 | Deuce | huh |
| 03:03.27 | Deuce | so the "within bounds" thing isn't working right |
| 03:03.30 | RodOfNOD | correct |
| 03:03.32 | RodOfNOD | i think its a bug |
| 03:03.37 | Deuce | thanks |
| 03:03.39 | RodOfNOD | submit it be a hero |
| 03:03.41 | Deuce | that would have driven me insane |
| 03:03.50 | RodOfNOD | well 99% of the time its ur fault |
| 03:03.55 | RodOfNOD | but with beta...... |
| 03:03.55 | Deuce | exactly |
| 03:03.58 | ekcolnovkol | onetwo |
| 03:04.00 | TheLaughingMan | God! |
| 03:04.02 | largelyrandom | If only all the headaches I've had were because of bugs and not because I was stupid |
| 03:04.09 | largelyrandom | well, being stupid |
| 03:04.11 | TheLaughingMan | These stupid Aliases for Terran and Zerg are rediculus! |
| 03:04.13 | ekcolnovkol | the line comes out as "Store integer value as key of section section in "bank" () |
| 03:04.13 | onetwo | ? |
| 03:04.23 | Deuce | to the bug report station! |
| 03:04.27 | RodOfNOD | u could also have created a player group put all players u wanted in the group and then tested if the player of the killing unit was in the group |
| 03:04.28 | ekcolnovkol | i don't understand why i'm being asked for a bank |
| 03:04.33 | onetwo | i wouldnt even use bank |
| 03:04.39 | onetwo | id delete everything bank related |
| 03:04.39 | ekcolnovkol | how do you save to integer? |
| 03:04.44 | onetwo | unless youre doing BETWEEN game stuff |
| 03:04.46 | onetwo | then you need a bank |
| 03:04.47 | Judgment38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.57 | onetwo | this is a lot for me to type out here |
| 03:05.00 | onetwo | and im not experienced with banks at all |
| 03:05.05 | Sozer | im doing a life system for a defence map... so EVENT: Unit - Any Unit Enters EndPAth... then i need an action that will kill 1 life unit every 1 unit that enteres EndPAth |
| 03:05.15 | RodOfNOD | paste it in the pastebin onetow |
| 03:05.28 | onetwo | but if you just need to store a hero level in ONE game, and not persistent through multiple games (that requires banks), then |
| 03:05.34 | onetwo | just create a global integer variable |
| 03:05.35 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/ |
| 03:05.55 | onetwo | then make a trigger |
| 03:06.00 | onetwo | when a unit gains a level if that exists |
| 03:06.04 | Deuce | Rod - I was actually just looking for a way to do that but couldn't find the "is this player in this group" condition :P |
| 03:06.05 | onetwo | or behavior count increases |
| 03:06.07 | onetwo | not sure |
| 03:06.09 | onetwo | how to count level |
| 03:06.13 | onetwo | and then just set that integer to the hero level |
| 03:06.35 | onetwo | so when you respawn him later, you can set his "level" to whatever you set as the integer |
| 03:06.37 | onetwo | last time he leveled |
| 03:06.40 | onetwo | its hard to type this out |
| 03:06.43 | onetwo | without me having done it |
| 03:06.48 | onetwo | sorry ekcolnovkol |
| 03:06.56 | ekcolnovkol | mm |
| 03:07.00 | RodOfNOD | has anyone tested what happens if a BANK is bad what the software does" |
| 03:07.00 | ekcolnovkol | thanks for the pointer |
| 03:07.01 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 03:07.34 | onetwo | "what happens if a BANK is bad what the software does" that grammar would destroy reactorex |
| 03:07.36 | onetwo | if he saw it |
| 03:07.36 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 03:07.40 | onetwo | not sure rod |
| 03:07.41 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:07.52 | RodOfNOD | cant be bothered to fix it with my new keyboard |
| 03:07.54 | Deuce | probably explodes |
| 03:07.57 | RodOfNOD | and my brain is dead |
| 03:08.09 | RodOfNOD | well it might be a way hackers would get in if blizz didnt do a good job |
| 03:08.10 | Deuce | the computer i mean |
| 03:08.12 | Deuce | it would explode |
| 03:08.19 | RodOfNOD | yes im sure it would |
| 03:08.21 | Reactorex | OH GOD |
| 03:08.23 | Reactorex | OWWWW |
| 03:08.25 | Reactorex | OWWWWW |
| 03:08.28 | Reactorex | THAT HURTS! |
| 03:08.32 | RodOfNOD | BOOM |
| 03:08.41 | Reactorex | Whyyyyyy!?!? D: |
| 03:08.42 | Deuce | you alright there chief |
| 03:09.10 | Deuce | man I miss the easier editors |
| 03:09.17 | Deuce | "leaderboard: track score" |
| 03:09.19 | Deuce | bam |
| 03:09.21 | RodOfNOD | listening to everyone here takes me back almost 10 years to when i first started coding wc3 :P |
| 03:09.23 | Deuce | peace out |
| 03:09.30 | RodOfNOD | some newbs some pros lots of unknowns :P |
| 03:09.43 | Deuce | i was awesome at staredit.exe! |
| 03:09.48 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:09.56 | RodOfNOD | i never screwed with that |
| 03:10.00 | RodOfNOD | i love sc melee |
| 03:10.03 | RodOfNOD | but wc3 melee blew |
| 03:10.42 | Reactorex | Am I an unknown, Rod? :P |
| 03:10.50 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:10.55 | Bifuu | Hey look SC Legacy wants me on their staff |
| 03:10.55 | Deuce | i wish my laptop was ok with keeping SC2 minimized for testing |
| 03:10.56 | Bifuu | xD |
| 03:11.00 | RodOfNOD | no i mean unknowns with the editor |
| 03:11.04 | Reactorex | I want to be an unown. :O I wouldn't mind being a Pokémon. xD |
| 03:11.11 | Deuce | it crashes the second time I try to load a map |
| 03:11.16 | Deuce | i have to quit out |
| 03:11.21 | Deuce | and relaunch the whole program |
| 03:11.30 | RodOfNOD | what did u do? |
| 03:11.51 | Deuce | Bifuu posts youtube videos |
| 03:12.02 | Demo_ | K I can't change my map to "open to public" it isn't letting me, any clues or ideas? |
| 03:12.02 | RodOfNOD | how come i cant get a window anymore with my sc2 :P woirked on my other comp but i cant get it to work here for inm game window |
| 03:12.31 | RodOfNOD | obviously it doesnt want to be let free Demo_ |
| 03:12.39 | RodOfNOD | havent gotten there sorry cant help |
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| 03:12.54 | Reactorex | I do, Demo. |
| 03:12.58 | Reactorex | I saw you on the Blizz forums. |
| 03:13.01 | Reactorex | I think I can help. |
| 03:13.03 | Reactorex | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.16 | RodOfNOD | i want to hear reactorex dont be so secret! |
| 03:13.27 | Reactorex | Less spammy. |
| 03:13.27 | Reactorex | :P |
| 03:13.36 | RodOfNOD | yeah but i save these chats for later info |
| 03:13.36 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 03:14.02 | RodOfNOD | reason i like to help people #2 is that even though it might be simple i might not know it yet :> |
| 03:14.14 | RodOfNOD | #1 is i am just a great guy what can i say.... |
| 03:14.27 | RodOfNOD | #3 is blizzard pays me under the table $2 a day |
| 03:14.43 | ekcolnovkol | you must be LOADED |
| 03:14.58 | RodOfNOD | well this is my first day on here so yes i am! |
| 03:15.12 | onetwo | they asked me too bifuu |
| 03:15.15 | onetwo | >< |
| 03:15.16 | Sozer | 2 dollars exponentally right?? |
| 03:15.22 | RodOfNOD | of course sozer |
| 03:15.32 | RodOfNOD | 2^2^2 etc |
| 03:15.45 | RodOfNOD | i cant wait till day 32 hehe |
| 03:15.53 | RodOfNOD | ok food time |
| 03:15.56 | onetwo | maybe this video will help you Demo |
| 03:15.57 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLSq6ipLTTo |
| 03:16.01 | Sozer | our economy would function so much more efficiently if all payment was made exponentally |
| 03:16.05 | wOlfLinG | Anyone know how to show a custom resource? |
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| 03:18.34 | Deuce | Rod - wont day 33 crash the program that is supposed to calculate your pay |
| 03:18.48 | Deuce | (nerd joke) |
| 03:19.02 | Deuce | (inaccurate nerd joke) |
| 03:19.31 | wOlfLinG | how do i make a trigger add 1 custom resource when a hero levels up? |
| 03:19.40 | onetwo | is there an event |
| 03:19.43 | onetwo | a unit gains a level |
| 03:19.46 | onetwo | or gains experience |
| 03:19.48 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 03:19.55 | wOlfLinG | its the add money i cant find |
| 03:19.57 | TheLaughingMan | Blah |
| 03:19.57 | onetwo | try doing a trigger with that |
| 03:20.02 | onetwo | player - modify player property |
| 03:20.52 | wOlfLinG | done :) |
| 03:21.24 | wOlfLinG | :/ Wierd... I have the german eurovision song stuck in my head atm |
| 03:21.34 | Reactorex | Summary of what was said: |
| 03:21.50 | Reactorex | If your map is locked, you won't be able to open it to public. Wait for a future patch or retail release. |
| 03:21.52 | Deuce | "Experience level of unit" function. The tip at the bottom says "returns the experience VALUE of the unit" |
| 03:21.56 | Reactorex | In the meanwhile, complain about it on the Blizzard forums. |
| 03:22.03 | Reactorex | If they see it, they might do something. |
| 03:22.09 | Reactorex | If they don't, I wouldn't count on it. |
| 03:22.11 | Deuce | ...so which is it :P |
| 03:23.23 | TheLaughingMan | I think locking it at the moment doesn't do any protection other then preventing other people from finding/dling the map |
| 03:23.42 | ekcolnovkol | do global variables work x_x |
| 03:23.46 | ekcolnovkol | i can't seem to call them |
| 03:23.52 | TheLaughingMan | They should work |
| 03:23.52 | Motive | yes... |
| 03:23.58 | ekcolnovkol | what the ffffffff |
| 03:24.38 | TheLaughingMan | Anyone know what the best way to store arbitary commands and run them later |
| 03:25.00 | P_R_Deltoid | what is "unit group" |
| 03:25.05 | P_R_Deltoid | is that like selected group |
| 03:25.12 | TheLaughingMan | A group of unit's |
| 03:25.17 | P_R_Deltoid | the selected ones? |
| 03:25.17 | TheLaughingMan | can be selected or not |
| 03:25.21 | P_R_Deltoid | or just a random group |
| 03:25.36 | TheLaughingMan | A group is a way of getting more then one unit |
| 03:25.57 | TheLaughingMan | You can get the Unit Group Selected, or find every marin on the map and make them a group |
| 03:26.02 | wOlfLinG | Unit group can be used to find all of x kind of units |
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| 03:26.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Griffith`` (~Zeta@CPE002191074172-CM0013718d3546.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:28.04 | wOlfLinG | Woot! My leveling system is working now :D. Just need to be able to show custom resources now :/ |
| 03:28.20 | ekcolnovkol | w0lfLinG |
| 03:28.27 | ekcolnovkol | try killing the hero after it's gained a level |
| 03:28.31 | largelyrandom | I'm looking for a way to hide Gas |
| 03:28.34 | ekcolnovkol | and prepare to RAGE |
| 03:28.34 | Reactorex | Motive, I has two pics for ya :P |
| 03:28.34 | largelyrandom | That doable? |
| 03:28.41 | Motive | ? |
| 03:28.52 | ekcolnovkol | yes random |
| 03:28.53 | ekcolnovkol | it is |
| 03:28.54 | TheLaughingMan | Does anyone know how to take lets say 20 commands cache them somewhere with the ability to call them up later |
| 03:28.54 | Deuce | like cloaked gas? |
| 03:28.57 | largelyrandom | :D |
| 03:29.00 | largelyrandom | Naw, like on the UI |
| 03:29.04 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 03:29.05 | Deuce | oh |
| 03:29.07 | Deuce | yes |
| 03:29.10 | Reactorex | Gettin' the urls |
| 03:29.55 | Deuce | TheLaughingMan - commands like issuing orders or commands like trigger events |
| 03:30.16 | largelyrandom | Can only find Resource, which I guess hides Minerals as well? |
| 03:30.29 | largelyrandom | or am I being nearsighted again ? |
| 03:30.45 | Deuce | try it and see! |
| 03:31.03 | largelyrandom | ugh |
| 03:31.12 | largelyrandom | It's easier to be spoon fed solutions, you know! |
| 03:31.17 | TheLaughingMan | Deuce, I am creating a Library for building an AI. At the moment I want to be able to take Custom Scripts that are generated elsewhere and cache them elsewhere till I need to run them later |
| 03:31.48 | Vandari | I'm unable to log into battle.net through the editor |
| 03:31.48 | Deuce | then you are far beyond me I am afraid ;) |
| 03:31.54 | Vandari | am I missing something? |
| 03:32.17 | TheLaughingMan | Did you change the realm properly? |
| 03:32.48 | Vandari | Where does one change the realm? |
| 03:33.20 | TheLaughingMan | File -> Preferences -> Battle.NET |
| 03:33.53 | Vandari | stage.battle.net |
| 03:34.04 | Vandari | I'm guessing that has to change? |
| 03:34.53 | ekcolnovkol | what the CRAP |
| 03:35.14 | ekcolnovkol | i can CALL for "Total experience" but i can't MODIFY "Total experience?" |
| 03:35.17 | ekcolnovkol | HERESEY |
| 03:35.43 | TheLaughingMan | Vandari, us-beta.logon.battle.net |
| 03:35.55 | wOlfLinG | How do i show a custom window showing how many upgrade points you have? |
| 03:36.49 | Deuce | ekcol - if there's one thing i've discovered it's that this editor can do anything. ANYTHING ;) |
| 03:37.45 | wOlfLinG | hmm... Set next map. Interesting :) |
| 03:38.22 | Deuce | does "next map" work multiplayer? I seem to remember it not working for SC1 |
| 03:38.37 | Deuce | multiplayer campaigns would be pretty fun |
| 03:38.56 | TheLaughingMan | Duece, It doesn't work at the moment |
| 03:38.57 | wOlfLinG | ya |
| 03:39.07 | TheLaughingMan | Publishing Borks it |
| 03:39.09 | onetwo | right now we cant detect a player leaving via disconnect |
| 03:39.10 | wOlfLinG | :( |
| 03:39.25 | onetwo | we can only detect a player leaving by defeat, victory, tie, or if they pressed quit button specifically |
| 03:39.29 | onetwo | :/ |
| 03:39.42 | Deuce | ohnoe :( |
| 03:40.14 | onetwo | but other than tht |
| 03:40.15 | onetwo | that |
| 03:40.17 | onetwo | pretty darn good |
| 03:40.40 | wOlfLinG | GRAH! This is annoying! |
| 03:40.47 | Deuce | a dude made a flight simulator with galaxy editor |
| 03:40.52 | RodOfNOD | lol read above nice stuff |
| 03:40.54 | Deuce | i'll take the bad with the good |
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| 03:41.06 | wOlfLinG | I know theres an option to decide what resources to show at the top left, but i cant find it >< |
| 03:41.14 | RodOfNOD | goes to look |
| 03:41.59 | Deuce | am I the only person with Hydralisk in their data editor twice? |
| 03:42.06 | RickA | No |
| 03:42.12 | RickA | One is blue and one is green right? |
| 03:42.37 | Deuce | both are blue |
| 03:42.53 | RodOfNOD | anyone know what the CONSOLE COMMAND does? |
| 03:42.55 | Deuce | maybe i accidentally copied it |
| 03:43.09 | Deuce | Rod - allows input of console commands! |
| 03:43.49 | Reactorex | Like you could be an ass and make the game log the player out of BNet! |
| 03:43.57 | Reactorex | ..seriously. |
| 03:44.04 | Reactorex | I'm not joking about that. >_> |
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| 03:44.25 | Reactorex | lawl; if they lose, they log out of BNet. |
| 03:44.34 | Reactorex | If they win, some other random console command. |
| 03:44.38 | Deuce | or if they're about to beat you |
| 03:45.31 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 03:45.48 | Vandari | TheLaughingMan thank you! That worked perfectly! |
| 03:45.50 | RickA | I'm sure you've all heard this 100 times, but how do I copy the Hellion flamethrower actors? |
| 03:46.33 | RickA | Properly, that is. I copied them all, and set new events, but I can't get the main beam to show. |
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| 03:46.53 | Coolflip | go into the damage, or launch missle and fill in the damage and the damage (actor) or whatever |
| 03:47.36 | Deuce | you're making a firebat aren't you :P |
| 03:47.49 | RickA | No |
| 03:47.53 | RickA | I'm making a wall of fire |
| 03:47.55 | `3ICE | umm... I am not at a conference, so wtf is: |
| 03:47.56 | `3ICE | [05:46:38] -farmer.freenode.net:#sc2mapster- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp |
| 03:48.18 | RickA | Coolflip, I'll reiterate |
| 03:48.28 | RickA | I need the flamethrower to be half as long as normal |
| 03:48.38 | RickA | Which means I am editing the actors, not the weapon. |
| 03:48.53 | `3ICE | nah |
| 03:49.08 | RickA | ja |
| 03:49.09 | `3ICE | btw short flames = uncool firebat |
| 03:49.17 | RickA | Not making a firebat |
| 03:49.20 | `3ICE | anyway 1sec and I'll find what to change |
| 03:49.27 | `3ICE | just for you :) <3 |
| 03:49.53 | onetwo | ive given up |
| 03:50.08 | onetwo | gl to anyone figuring out how to make hero abilities skip a level |
| 03:50.12 | RodOfNOD | wolfling u find it? |
| 03:50.14 | RickA | Uh |
| 03:50.15 | onetwo | without having to make a requirement for each one |
| 03:50.16 | RickA | Onetwo |
| 03:50.18 | RickA | Oh |
| 03:50.23 | RickA | Yeah, but that's easy |
| 03:50.37 | onetwo | i just want a field to set how many skip levels for a learning ability |
| 03:50.38 | RickA | Its a gigantic copy paste job |
| 03:50.43 | onetwo | or at worst, have to do one requirement |
| 03:50.51 | onetwo | but ive come to the realization |
| 03:50.56 | TheLaughingMan | Anyone have any ideas on caching commands and calling them back up later? |
| 03:51.01 | RickA | Have the learn ability give half a point each level :p |
| 03:51.09 | RickA | timers? |
| 03:51.16 | onetwo | that i need to count the number of the ability, and count the level |
| 03:51.22 | onetwo | cant do that rickA because if you have 5 abilities |
| 03:51.28 | onetwo | you want to be able to get a different one |
| 03:51.30 | onetwo | each level |
| 03:51.33 | Deuce | god i love terran music |
| 03:51.44 | `3ICE | firefly! |
| 03:52.03 | Deuce | it is firefly-like, yes |
| 03:52.22 | Deuce | oh wait |
| 03:52.39 | `3ICE | RickA I found a very ugly field that might be it: |
| 03:52.42 | `3ICE | Battle Cannon (Persistent)Hellion - Battle Cannon (Persistent)Effect - Periodic Offsets((0,-0.25)|(0,-0.5)|(0,-0.75)|(0,-1)|(0,-1.25)|(0,-1.5)|(0,-1.75)|(0,-2)|(0,-2.25)|(0,-2.5)|(0,-2.75)|(0,-3)|(0,-3.25)|(0,-3.5)|(0,-3.75)|(0,-4)|(0,-4.25)|(0,-4.5)|(0,-4.75)|(0,-5)|(0,-5.25)|(0,-5.5)|(0,-5.75)|(0,-6)|(0,-6.5)) |
| 03:52.46 | Deuce | thats probably not what you were talking about but it fitsw |
| 03:52.57 | RickA | That's just how often it hits I think |
| 03:53.05 | RickA | Or rather, where it hits |
| 03:53.13 | `3ICE | thats why you need |
| 03:53.15 | `3ICE | what* |
| 03:53.18 | `3ICE | where it hits |
| 03:53.31 | RodOfNOD | ok time to go kill some people .,... at sc2 :> |
| 03:53.39 | `3ICE | there are 25 points where the splash is applied |
| 03:53.47 | `3ICE | you need to take out the last 12.5 |
| 03:53.52 | Deuce | im not actually in the beta <.< >.> |
| 03:53.56 | `3ICE | to make it half that long |
| 03:54.22 | Deuce | I "borrowed" a beta account for map making purposes |
| 03:54.33 | `3ICE | i dled a torrent for mapmaking purposes :) |
| 03:55.04 | Deuce | i would definitely have done that otherwise |
| 03:55.52 | Deuce | retail had better have a crapton more models/artwork/doodads available |
| 03:56.01 | onetwo | interesting |
| 03:56.09 | Deuce | i need more melee units that look good when attacking |
| 03:56.17 | onetwo | if you set the count-max of a learned hero ability, e.g. to 5... when you get level 5 of that ability |
| 03:56.20 | Deuce | cant just freaking convert a marine into a melee unit |
| 03:56.20 | onetwo | it will just gray out |
| 03:56.22 | onetwo | not disappear |
| 03:56.53 | `3ICE | hydras have a melee attack |
| 03:56.58 | RickA | Ice, that was a very interesting idea, but it was wrong. |
| 03:57.02 | `3ICE | aww :( |
| 03:57.09 | RickA | Removing those made the attack not work from that far away |
| 03:57.15 | RickA | So if I was right next to a unit |
| 03:57.18 | RickA | I could attack it |
| 03:57.27 | `3ICE | well I'm off to have breakfast, be back in 10 |
| 03:57.52 | Sozer | what would an event be to start multiple levels of a defence game |
| 03:58.19 | Sozer | at different times |
| 03:58.24 | wOlfLinG | how do i add an upgrade requirement to the sentrys guardian shield? |
| 03:59.28 | RickA | Do you know how requirements work at all? |
| 04:00.29 | onetwo | hmm nice you can hide max level |
| 04:00.31 | onetwo | ignore what i said |
| 04:00.33 | onetwo | about grayed out |
| 04:01.06 | Ignorance | Hey guys |
| 04:01.14 | Ignorance | is this trigger not working for anyone else? |
| 04:01.20 | Ignorance | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.25 | Ignorance | err |
| 04:01.26 | Ignorance | event |
| 04:01.31 | Ignorance | it's not going off for me |
| 04:01.33 | rrowland | It seems to be broken |
| 04:01.47 | Ignorance | Is there another way to detect players leaving, other than periodic function? |
| 04:02.20 | Ignorance | because I need it to know at any time, in case a host leaves during mode selection :( |
| 04:02.43 | Deuce | check during mode selection? :( |
| 04:02.44 | rrowland | Have you periodic function run during mode selection and turn if off after |
| 04:02.51 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 04:02.58 | Ignorance | Does anyone know how event definitions work? |
| 04:03.02 | Ignorance | I've been dying to find out. |
| 04:03.03 | Deuce | or make it run every second during mode selection |
| 04:04.07 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 04:05.06 | rrowland | unghhhh this makes no sense |
| 04:05.27 | rrowland | I add like 30 units to a unit group |
| 04:05.33 | rrowland | Then I get the unit count of that group |
| 04:05.33 | RickA | It makes a lot more sense than my problem. |
| 04:05.37 | rrowland | And it returns 0 |
| 04:05.46 | RickA | post your trigger |
| 04:05.55 | rrowland | It's not a trigger, it's galaxy |
| 04:06.12 | rrowland | Basically |
| 04:06.20 | rrowland | UnitGroupAdd(openMineralFields, mineralField); |
| 04:06.30 | rrowland | I know it's getting called because I checked with triggerdebugoutput |
| 04:06.41 | rrowland | And then |
| 04:06.42 | rrowland | UnitGroupCount(openMineralFields, c_unitCountAlive); |
| 04:06.45 | rrowland | Which is returning 0 |
| 04:08.34 | Ignorance | so, I don't think action definitions work right now |
| 04:08.38 | Ignorance | maybe through custom script? |
| 04:09.00 | Ignorance | I was hoping there'd be some way to detect when a game variable changes |
| 04:10.27 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Motive |
| 04:10.30 | purl | motive is currently on #sc2mapster (1h 7m 57s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 41m 49s, last said: '?'. |
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| 04:10.36 | TheLaughingMan | Motive, are you there? |
| 04:10.43 | Motive | Yus |
| 04:10.50 | TheLaughingMan | Can I PM you? |
| 04:10.53 | Motive | sure |
| 04:11.07 | `3ICE | [06:08:35] <Ignorance> so, I don't think action definitions work right now |
| 04:11.08 | `3ICE | yeah they do |
| 04:11.14 | `3ICE | event definitions dont work |
| 04:11.40 | Ignorance | erryeah that |
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| 04:14.29 | Deuce | not too many "corpse" doodads :/ |
| 04:14.42 | `3ICE | spawn a unit and kill it instantly then freeze it |
| 04:15.09 | ekcolnovkol | how to grant experience in a temporary region |
| 04:15.10 | `3ICE | or add some new doodads :) |
| 04:15.11 | ekcolnovkol | ffffffffffff |
| 04:15.32 | ekcolnovkol | or for that matter, create a temporary region |
| 04:15.34 | ekcolnovkol | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 04:15.49 | ekcolnovkol | the system is different D; |
| 04:16.51 | wOlfLinG | how hard is it to make gaurdian shield need an upgrade? |
| 04:17.06 | `3ICE | two steps |
| 04:17.13 | `3ICE | make the upgrade |
| 04:17.18 | wOlfLinG | it is |
| 04:17.18 | `3ICE | add it as a requirement to the ability |
| 04:17.23 | `3ICE | done :) |
| 04:17.25 | wOlfLinG | how do i do that? |
| 04:17.30 | `3ICE | oh and btw add the upgrade to a building :) |
| 04:17.35 | `3ICE | requirements |
| 04:17.43 | wOlfLinG | The upgrade is on a hero :) |
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| 04:18.50 | `3ICE | found it under commands |
| 04:19.25 | `3ICE | so guardian shield --> commands --> select the first command --> requirements --> search for your upgrade |
| 04:20.03 | Deuce | i wish i were smart enough for procedural map generation |
| 04:20.14 | Deuce | and by map I mean terrain |
| 04:23.42 | wOlfLinG | booyah! Done. Ty 3ICE :) |
| 04:23.47 | `3ICE | np np |
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| 04:28.13 | rrowland | Woot |
| 04:28.20 | rrowland | My function finally works |
| 04:28.52 | rrowland | Now I need to figure out how to tell the AI not to try to send probes to island expos..... lol |
| 04:29.05 | rrowland | They're all bunched up at the cliff trying to get over |
| 04:29.38 | `3ICE | send a scout first, if it can't get there in x minutes ignore that expo? |
| 04:29.49 | Deuce | make them flying units and it's not a problem! :V |
| 04:29.59 | rrowland | Well I'm not telling them to go myself lol |
| 04:29.59 | `3ICE | lol he is making an AI, cant change units for that |
| 04:30.02 | rrowland | It's handled by the AI |
| 04:30.11 | rrowland | Whenever I make a new probe |
| 04:30.15 | rrowland | It goes to mine |
| 04:30.32 | rrowland | Default AI, works pretty well |
| 04:30.43 | rrowland | Except for this |
| 04:30.44 | rrowland | lol |
| 04:31.01 | Deuce | of course blizzard will release an Insane AI with retail and we'll all feel kinda dumb |
| 04:31.13 | rrowland | Nah their AI cheats |
| 04:31.25 | rrowland | Plus it's fun |
| 04:31.27 | Deuce | how so |
| 04:31.40 | rrowland | It sees the whole map and it mines extra resources |
| 04:31.49 | Deuce | ahh |
| 04:32.04 | Deuce | i beat the "very easy" AI!!!!!! |
| 04:32.07 | rrowland | lol |
| 04:32.10 | rrowland | So does my AI :P |
| 04:32.15 | rrowland | And it's barely even started |
| 04:32.23 | Deuce | my cat beat could beat the very easy AI... |
| 04:32.27 | rrowland | Yeah really |
| 04:32.40 | Fatal510 | its so awesome to get accused of hacking when your playing an FPS. its a huge compliment that people think you are that good that you must be hacking. |
| 04:33.26 | Deuce | beating people who are blatantly hacking is even more fun |
| 04:33.38 | Deuce | the MW2 riot shield is good for that |
| 04:34.27 | wOlfLinG | hmm... My personal cloaking upgrade disappears after use, but my guardian shield and blink dont |
| 04:36.09 | rrowland | I'd rather just turn off my AI's ability to create probes from remote towns lol |
| 04:36.12 | rrowland | Unghh |
| 04:38.59 | wOlfLinG | what would cause an ability upgrade to not dissappear? |
| 04:39.53 | `3ICE | max level should be 1 |
| 04:40.04 | rrowland | Not setting a "show" requirement |
| 04:40.12 | TheLaughingMan | Does anyone know how to store arrays in Data Tables? |
| 04:40.13 | Deuce | so i |
| 04:40.26 | Deuce | so i've just discovered the create function...function |
| 04:40.33 | Deuce | and I am a happy person |
| 04:42.00 | NeoDeathXp | =) |
| 04:42.14 | NeoDeathXp | huys wanna see a sneak peak of my main menu? |
| 04:42.21 | NeoDeathXp | guys* |
| 04:42.22 | NeoDeathXp | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/21/504/SC2_2010-05-31_00-36-52-12.jpg |
| 04:42.25 | Reactorex | picchors nao. |
| 04:42.47 | Reactorex | It's OK. |
| 04:43.07 | Deuce | final fantasy is like so last decade |
| 04:43.16 | NeoDeathXp | its amazing! |
| 04:43.41 | `3ICE | self declared artistic genius |
| 04:44.13 | onetwo | gj neo :D |
| 04:44.16 | onetwo | big project it looks like |
| 04:44.25 | Deuce | what is a data table and what is it used for |
| 04:44.34 | Reactorex | What is a data table? |
| 04:44.36 | Reactorex | ... |
| 04:44.50 | Reactorex | A data table is used to store many, many kinds of data. |
| 04:45.06 | onetwo | i personally never use em |
| 04:45.30 | Reactorex | The data tables have an inherent scope- local and global. |
| 04:45.35 | Deuce | it appears to be basically an array except it can do more than one data type? |
| 04:45.53 | Reactorex | It can do just about every data type. |
| 04:45.58 | Deuce | right |
| 04:45.59 | Reactorex | And it uses string-based identifiers. |
| 04:46.00 | TheLaughingMan | Except Arrays |
| 04:46.33 | Deuce | eh, not useful for what I'm doing here |
| 04:46.40 | Reactorex | I use it to store my list items. |
| 04:46.43 | Deuce | ... i think |
| 04:46.46 | Reactorex | btn_listItemHere |
| 04:47.02 | Reactorex | Then I call it very read-ably in my other trigger. |
| 04:47.12 | Deuce | i'm trying to generate a random encounter without a gazillion if statements |
| 04:47.13 | Reactorex | I used to use it to store my dialogs, until I found the Dialog and Dialog Item variables. |
| 04:47.29 | Deuce | 15% chance of two zombies. 20% chance of four zombies, etc |
| 04:47.30 | Reactorex | Use switches, Deuce. |
| 04:47.47 | Reactorex | Or an if/then/else multiple |
| 04:47.55 | Reactorex | And use the Within Range condition |
| 04:48.10 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zombies-attack/. Zombies Attack. trigger863 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 04:48.11 | Reactorex | Use a rand(100) to start it. |
| 04:48.17 | Reactorex | And the highest %s at the top. |
| 04:48.19 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/mapster-logo-intro/. Mapster Logo Intro. GodKill3r (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 04:48.38 | Reactorex | Like 50% to do such and such, then 40% after the 50, 35% after the 40, etc. |
| 04:49.02 | TheLaughingMan | Now I get to have some fun! |
| 04:49.03 | Reactorex | 'course, there are better ways to do it. |
| 04:49.10 | TheLaughingMan | Have to build Serialization! |
| 04:49.11 | Reactorex | I've got some light concepts on how. |
| 04:49.23 | Reactorex | TLM, what do you mean? |
| 04:49.25 | Deuce | switch. this looks nifty |
| 04:49.28 | Reactorex | That's something I don't understand. |
| 04:49.32 | Deuce | danke |
| 04:49.34 | Reactorex | I want to understand :P |
| 04:49.42 | TheLaughingMan | I have to store an string array |
| 04:49.44 | TheLaughingMan | that is.. |
| 04:49.48 | Deuce | I want to believe! |
| 04:49.51 | Reactorex | Deuce, it's not a real switch, but it's better for some cases in GUI. |
| 04:49.54 | TheLaughingMan | [100][10] inside a single string |
| 04:50.02 | Reactorex | It's just a reformatted if/elseif/elseif/else. |
| 04:50.23 | Reactorex | Real switches are better. :) |
| 04:50.23 | Deuce | right |
| 04:50.44 | Reactorex | Waaait.... |
| 04:50.48 | Deuce | look buddy my programming knowledge is one semester of vbasic |
| 04:50.50 | Reactorex | What do you mean by store [100][10] in a string? |
| 04:51.07 | Reactorex | Is each [1][1] a char? |
| 04:51.11 | TheLaughingMan | I have a string array that is [100][10] in size |
| 04:51.23 | Deuce | so like 1000 strings? |
| 04:51.24 | Reactorex | Sorry, Deuce, I've never used vbasic. |
| 04:51.34 | Deuce | and you shouldn't |
| 04:51.36 | Reactorex | Looked at it for 5 seconds, blanched, then vowed to not use it. |
| 04:51.40 | TheLaughingMan | [1][1] = string [2][1] = string [99][9] = string |
| 04:51.45 | Deuce | it's like staredit.exe if it were a programming language |
| 04:51.48 | Reactorex | I'm sticking with C++. |
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| 04:52.12 | Reactorex | So you have 10000 strings, TLM? |
| 04:52.18 | Reactorex | Err |
| 04:52.19 | Reactorex | 1000 |
| 04:52.29 | TheLaughingMan | yes |
| 04:52.36 | Reactorex | What for? |
| 04:52.42 | TheLaughingMan | Complex stuff |
| 04:52.49 | Reactorex | You mentioned serialization, but I don't understand :P |
| 04:53.03 | onetwo | i want 100 billion strings by my door |
| 04:53.04 | onetwo | this sunday |
| 04:53.09 | Jamash | one semester of vbasic gives you an amount of programming knowledge equivalent to being able to put on your clothes, but not tie your shoes |
| 04:53.21 | Werepenguin | Should "Attack Speed Multiplier" in the behavior (buff) modifications affect the peroid effect in the weapon of the buffed unit? Cause it doesn't for me |
| 04:53.33 | onetwo | i think it should |
| 04:53.35 | onetwo | werepenguin |
| 04:53.38 | onetwo | i know when i made it like 2 |
| 04:53.38 | Werepenguin | Hm |
| 04:53.39 | TheLaughingMan | Serialization involves taking a variable of any type and converting it into a string, however it is done in such a way that you can tell the type of variable it was originally and your able to convert it back |
| 04:53.41 | Reactorex | I had one and a half years of self-taught C++ for whatever I wanted to do with it. |
| 04:53.42 | Reactorex | Which wasn't much. |
| 04:53.42 | onetwo | my attack went 2x as fast |
| 04:54.01 | Reactorex | I still have a lot of things I should read. |
| 04:54.10 | Werepenguin | It doesn't work for me. :< Everything else works but not attack speed multiplier |
| 04:54.16 | onetwo | reactorex i played infection publicly today |
| 04:54.18 | onetwo | 3.3 |
| 04:54.23 | onetwo | it climbed back up by itself |
| 04:54.25 | onetwo | onto page 2 |
| 04:54.26 | onetwo | weirdly enough |
| 04:54.31 | Deuce | ok i dont understand how to add a case to a switch |
| 04:54.37 | Deuce | :P |
| 04:54.39 | Jamash | C++ lets you put on your clothes and tie your shoes, but your clothes are on inside out and your shoes are on the wrong feet |
| 04:54.58 | rrowland | What? |
| 04:55.15 | Reactorex | Jamash? |
| 04:55.16 | rrowland | Sounds like user error to me jamash |
| 04:55.19 | TheLaughingMan | Jamash, you said that wrong |
| 04:55.47 | onetwo | C++ lets you tie your clothes onto your shoes, but putting your bed together from ikea is like tieing your shoes to the wrong foot inside out mishmash of grammar making little sense or less sense than Jamashes comment. Tied Shoes. |
| 04:56.03 | largelyrandom | You lost me at ++ |
| 04:56.11 | TheLaughingMan | C++ Lets you put your clothes on and tie your shoes and even groom yourself however if you don't do it in a certain fashion you end up wearing a pile of poo on your head |
| 04:56.19 | Sixen | brb again. |
| 04:56.22 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:56.56 | Reactorex | C++ lets you have DIAMONDS in your hands. |
| 04:57.00 | Reactorex | I'm on a horse. |
| 04:57.51 | onetwo | its amazing the amount of people in this channel |
| 04:57.51 | onetwo | that ive never heard or seen |
| 04:57.51 | onetwo | talk |
| 04:57.52 | Jamash | A horse with no name. |
| 04:57.52 | onetwo | i just realized |
| 04:57.52 | onetwo | theres like 5-6 of us |
| 04:57.52 | Reactorex | The horse is named Chinchilla. |
| 04:57.52 | onetwo | that talk |
| 04:57.52 | largelyrandom | Can't get a word in sideways |
| 04:57.52 | Reactorex | ... |
| 04:57.52 | Reactorex | Special Forces 2 is at the top of the US games list. |
| 04:57.52 | Reactorex | It was made over a month ago. |
| 04:57.52 | largelyrandom | Say, does changing font size in a leaderboard work or not? |
| 04:57.52 | Reactorex | And rose up in a single day. |
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| 04:57.57 | onetwo | sounds like they use the same popularity list that bnet 2.0 uses reactorex |
| 04:58.00 | onetwo | they padded it |
| 04:58.13 | Reactorex | It has 33% more games than BattleCraft Armageddon. |
| 04:58.18 | onetwo | hahha |
| 04:58.23 | onetwo | ODD |
| 04:58.26 | Reactorex | It has TWELVE HUNDRED games in an hour. |
| 04:58.29 | onetwo | sounds like a sweatshop padding it |
| 04:58.38 | onetwo | we should get into a business reactorex |
| 04:58.41 | Reactorex | I saw it at third not too long ago. |
| 04:58.44 | onetwo | where we'll pad your map to page 1 |
| 04:58.47 | onetwo | for 500$ |
| 04:58.52 | Reactorex | To page 1? |
| 04:58.55 | Reactorex | That's not much. >_> |
| 04:59.00 | onetwo | top 3 then |
| 04:59.01 | onetwo | on page 1 |
| 04:59.05 | onetwo | and we charge $450 |
| 04:59.06 | Reactorex | Top seven. |
| 04:59.12 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:59.17 | Reactorex | Seventh place is 300 games. |
| 04:59.25 | Reactorex | Well, 220. |
| 04:59.29 | onetwo | if we have a room of 4 guys |
| 04:59.31 | largelyrandom | Do you need to finish a game for it to count ? |
| 04:59.37 | Reactorex | No.' |
| 04:59.37 | onetwo | each padding 1 game per minute |
| 04:59.40 | Reactorex | Just start and then quit. |
| 04:59.41 | onetwo | we can do 4 games per minute |
| 04:59.48 | onetwo | 4x60 |
| 04:59.50 | largelyrandom | Quick, break out the calculator |
| 04:59.53 | onetwo | how much we have to pay these 4 guys? |
| 04:59.57 | Reactorex | Onetwo, I can make 3 or 4 games per minute. |
| 05:00.00 | largelyrandom | Bowl of rice a day |
| 05:00.01 | onetwo | what really? |
| 05:00.04 | Reactorex | YEp. |
| 05:00.09 | onetwo | loading screen |
| 05:00.11 | onetwo | is horrendous wait |
| 05:00.12 | onetwo | though |
| 05:00.12 | Reactorex | Yep. |
| 05:00.18 | Reactorex | I do FAST loads on it. |
| 05:00.20 | onetwo | oh |
| 05:00.22 | Reactorex | Assume 3.3 per minute for me. |
| 05:00.27 | onetwo | k |
| 05:00.30 | Reactorex | So 3.3 * 60 |
| 05:00.36 | onetwo | but youre too expensive for me |
| 05:00.37 | Reactorex | 180 + 18 = 198 |
| 05:00.39 | onetwo | im only getting $450 |
| 05:00.49 | Reactorex | Pft, I don't accept payment. xD |
| 05:00.52 | Reactorex | Not yet. |
| 05:00.53 | onetwo | i need to take 449$ of that because im the Kotick of our group |
| 05:00.56 | Reactorex | So I'm ~200/hr. |
| 05:01.12 | Reactorex | (games) |
| 05:01.29 | Reactorex | Add a few more to that and you've got 500 or 600 per hour. |
| 05:01.39 | Reactorex | Automate it and you have OVER NINE THOUSAND per hour. |
| 05:01.41 | onetwo | haha no longer is APM valid |
| 05:01.45 | onetwo | its all about your pad-number |
| 05:01.59 | Reactorex | :P |
| 05:02.12 | onetwo | lol 2 weeks later |
| 05:02.16 | onetwo | blizz shuts our operation down |
| 05:02.18 | onetwo | in a scarface-like ending |
| 05:02.28 | Reactorex | Which is 1255 for Special Forces 12... |
| 05:02.29 | Reactorex | 2* |
| 05:02.37 | Reactorex | And 456 for Marine Arena 0.9.82 |
| 05:03.00 | Werepenguin | Is there another way to upgrade individual units other than using behaviors attached to abilities (and morphing into other units). It works great for some things but I feel extremely limited in what I can do. |
| 05:03.04 | onetwo | someone reading what we just said has no idea |
| 05:03.06 | Werepenguin | ? |
| 05:03.07 | onetwo | what were talking about lol |
| 05:03.23 | onetwo | i dont know what you want |
| 05:03.25 | onetwo | werepenguin |
| 05:03.30 | onetwo | whats wrong with stacking behaviors etc? |
| 05:03.47 | Werepenguin | I want to activate splash damage for example |
| 05:03.57 | onetwo | hmm |
| 05:04.11 | onetwo | not sure then |
| 05:04.40 | Reactorex | What you could do: |
| 05:04.43 | Reactorex | Weapon deals 1 damage. |
| 05:04.49 | Reactorex | Your actual other damage is based on behaviors. |
| 05:05.02 | Reactorex | If you want to switch to splash, switch to your buffs stacked X times for X damage in splash. |
| 05:05.13 | Reactorex | If you want to switch back to single target, use the single-target behavior. |
| 05:05.31 | Werepenguin | Hmm |
| 05:05.34 | Reactorex | Weapon dictates how it'll attack- buffs will dictate how much it hurts. |
| 05:05.42 | Reactorex | And how much armor your unit has. |
| 05:05.52 | Reactorex | And how fast it can attack, too, if you want to do that. |
| 05:06.11 | Werepenguin | That attack speed multiplier isn't working for me for some reason |
| 05:06.24 | Reactorex | What values are you using in which fields? |
| 05:06.41 | onetwo | be back later |
| 05:06.43 | Werepenguin | Hmm, that makes me realize one thing |
| 05:07.14 | Deuce | i don't suppose there's a tutorial around that deals with Switches |
| 05:07.33 | Werepenguin | It might have to do with that my unit shoots two missiles with set periods between the attacks |
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| 05:10.00 | Reactorex | I don't believe there is, Deuce. |
| 05:10.02 | Werepenguin | Ok, yeah the attack speed thing was caused by that |
| 05:10.04 | Reactorex | However, what do you want to know about htme? |
| 05:10.06 | Reactorex | them* |
| 05:10.29 | Twiner | I think you use send actor message to trigger events |
| 05:10.55 | Deuce | bleh. I can write if/then/else statements by hand but via this editor it's driving me nuts |
| 05:11.10 | Reactorex | Then just use Custom Script :P |
| 05:11.47 | Reactorex | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1979/ and http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1985/ have everything you need. |
| 05:12.36 | rrowland | Fuck islands. |
| 05:13.33 | Reactorex | Eh? |
| 05:15.53 | Deuce | you heard the man |
| 05:18.33 | nicoli_s | well hopefully i should have a copy of our 3rd party editor out soon for people who hate the trigger editor |
| 05:18.47 | nicoli_s | with error checking, syntax highlughting, auto completion, and more |
| 05:27.35 | nicoli_s | wow that made the channel go quiet :S |
| 05:28.16 | wOlfLinG | right, ive got my hero working now :) |
| 05:29.06 | wOlfLinG | Only thing is, the upgrades dont dissappear when used, meaning you can accidently waste money on maxed out upgrades :/ |
| 05:29.23 | Deuce | i wish there were still beta-key-wish-preorder options :( |
| 05:29.49 | Deuce | with* on the second wish |
| 05:30.55 | TheLaughingMan | nicoli_s, which one? |
| 05:31.20 | nicoli_s | TheLaughingMan: you mean which editor? im talking about our editor MWE |
| 05:31.34 | wOlfLinG | how would i respawn a hero? |
| 05:33.20 | TheLaughingMan | nicoli_s, please do |
| 05:33.54 | TheLaughingMan | Well now I am working on a basic serialization library... |
| 05:34.15 | wOlfLinG | anyone know a trigger to make a hero respawn when dead? |
| 05:34.23 | TheLaughingMan | there is none |
| 05:34.43 | `3ICE | except it doesn't save items/abilities |
| 05:35.01 | `3ICE | whoops i read your message as "there is one" :D |
| 05:35.20 | `3ICE | just make a respawn system wOlfLinG |
| 05:35.30 | wOlfLinG | And how would i do that? |
| 05:35.31 | TheLaughingMan | Anyone want to help me make a Serialization Library? |
| 05:35.43 | Deuce | seriawhatnow |
| 05:35.56 | `3ICE | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialization |
| 05:36.26 | TheLaughingMan | All because I can't store arrays anywhere |
| 05:36.51 | Deuce | this sounds like a personal problem |
| 05:37.01 | `3ICE | no it would be useful for the community |
| 05:37.11 | Deuce | have you tried putting them in the cupboard? |
| 05:37.49 | TheLaughingMan | It is going to be somewhat related to php serialization so you can view it in php and even perl |
| 05:40.09 | Deuce | yes I know just what you mean. <.< >.> |
| 05:40.45 | Deuce | actually I understand the concept and how it would be useful but unfortunately can't help you |
| 05:41.01 | wOlfLinG | So, cant work out this respawn system :( |
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| 05:41.27 | onetwo | yay just finished a hero tutoriall |
| 05:41.31 | onetwo | recording that is |
| 05:41.32 | wOlfLinG | nice |
| 05:41.36 | onetwo | gotta edit/render / upload now |
| 05:41.44 | wOlfLinG | so you know how to respawn? |
| 05:41.48 | Pandepic | onetwo, your TD tutorial lied to me! |
| 05:41.53 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 05:42.04 | onetwo | ??? |
| 05:42.07 | onetwo | no respawning |
| 05:42.07 | Pandepic | I was looking at it to see how to fix the morphing problem |
| 05:42.12 | onetwo | just leveling/attributes/abilities |
| 05:42.12 | Pandepic | of actors not being carried across |
| 05:42.16 | onetwo | yeah? |
| 05:42.20 | Pandepic | and it didn't work >> |
| 05:42.23 | onetwo | :O |
| 05:42.31 | wOlfLinG | Well, i need to make my heros respawn when dead :( |
| 05:42.35 | onetwo | pandepic |
| 05:42.44 | onetwo | your actor for the old unupgraded unit |
| 05:42.48 | onetwo | needs an event |
| 05:42.50 | onetwo | in Events+ |
| 05:42.54 | onetwo | for when the upgrade completes |
| 05:42.59 | onetwo | and then the action is to destroy itself |
| 05:43.07 | onetwo | then you need the same event in the actor for the upgraded tower/uit |
| 05:43.09 | onetwo | unit* |
| 05:43.10 | Pandepic | yep I did all that |
| 05:43.13 | onetwo | except its action is to create |
| 05:43.21 | onetwo | i cant really figure out more aside from what i did in my video |
| 05:43.24 | Pandepic | it isn't working =( |
| 05:43.28 | onetwo | :( |
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| 05:43.52 | nicoli_s | TheLaughingMan:i think a serialization library would be very cool |
| 05:43.53 | TheLaughingMan | Woot |
| 05:44.04 | nicoli_s | support for sc2mods is def something i want to add to MWE |
| 05:44.06 | TheLaughingMan | I am able to unserialize integers and strings |
| 05:44.07 | Pandepic | morphing should inherently switch actors >> |
| 05:44.10 | Pandepic | it makes no sense the way it works |
| 05:44.11 | nicoli_s | plus creation of them |
| 05:44.36 | onetwo | such is true pandepic |
| 05:44.44 | TheLaughingMan | so then.. |
| 05:44.47 | onetwo | its not intuitive |
| 05:44.47 | TheLaughingMan | now to serialize them |
| 05:44.50 | onetwo | but its doable |
| 05:45.02 | Pandepic | I can't see why it doesn't work |
| 05:45.13 | largelyrandom | FONT SIZE HATES ME! |
| 05:48.01 | onetwo | data editor is like that sometimes |
| 05:48.06 | onetwo | :/ |
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| 05:50.55 | largelyrandom | bleh |
| 05:51.06 | TheLaughingMan | wtf? |
| 05:51.13 | largelyrandom | It doesnt want to change font size on that silly leaderboard |
| 05:51.20 | TheLaughingMan | I am confused as hell |
| 05:52.24 | largelyrandom | What you confused over? |
| 05:53.01 | TheLaughingMan | Can you have an integer that is 1234567890 |
| 05:53.18 | rrowland | Yes |
| 05:53.34 | TheLaughingMan | So the GUI sets a max for integers? |
| 05:53.58 | sherard | any 3ds max able to help me out? |
| 05:54.04 | rrowland | I don't know |
| 05:54.26 | rrowland | The max integer should be 4294967295 |
| 05:54.35 | rrowland | Actually |
| 05:54.48 | rrowland | 2147483648 since we have negatives too |
| 05:54.58 | TheLaughingMan | Well I try setting an integer to 1234567890 |
| 05:55.05 | TheLaughingMan | and it turns it to 1000000000 |
| 05:55.22 | rrowland | Weird |
| 05:55.25 | TheLaughingMan | yes |
| 05:55.26 | TheLaughingMan | http://i50.tinypic.com/ekj4gk.jpg |
| 05:55.40 | TheLaughingMan | But my String and Int Serialize/Unserialize |
| 05:56.17 | sherard | Is anyone familier with importing and exporting m3 files? |
| 05:56.24 | rrowland | I'm not sure what I'm looking at in that picture |
| 05:56.27 | rrowland | But it looks right to me |
| 05:57.21 | TheLaughingMan | Well it takes the string "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" and serializes it and outputs the output |
| 05:57.21 | wOlfLinG | how do you spawn a unit at a point? |
| 05:57.28 | TheLaughingMan | samething with integers |
| 05:57.39 | `3ICE | wOlfLinG create |
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| 05:57.51 | TheLaughingMan | Then the last 3 are outputs |
| 05:58.01 | TheLaughingMan | of it unserializing what it serialized before |
| 05:58.10 | TheLaughingMan | the 43 is just telling me the length of the string |
| 05:58.27 | rrowland | They match |
| 05:58.31 | rrowland | Are they not supposed to? |
| 05:58.37 | TheLaughingMan | They are |
| 05:58.45 | wOlfLinG | wheres create? |
| 05:58.47 | TheLaughingMan | suppose to match |
| 05:58.58 | rrowland | So it looks to me like it's working then |
| 05:59.07 | TheLaughingMan | Now then... |
| 05:59.51 | `3ICE | wOlfLinG wtf you are asking how to create a unit? thats like asking how to take a breath |
| 06:00.05 | `3ICE | unit - create unit |
| 06:00.06 | largelyrandom | ^^ |
| 06:00.16 | wOlfLinG | dont worry, found it myself |
| 06:00.25 | wOlfLinG | Im a nub at triggers though ^^ |
| 06:02.00 | MavercK | yikes |
| 06:02.11 | MavercK | i wake up this morning and theres like 10 billion comments on my page |
| 06:02.27 | MavercK | people were busy last night o.0 |
| 06:03.40 | ekcolnovkol | maverck,i think you mispelled your name o.0 |
| 06:03.52 | pkol | the game runs so much better in single player :( |
| 06:03.57 | pkol | stupid no lan |
| 06:04.35 | `3ICE | 7Do you really want chat channels? |
| 06:04.45 | ekcolnovkol | are you kidding |
| 06:04.52 | ekcolnovkol | ./rage |
| 06:04.53 | pkol | why not? |
| 06:04.54 | MavercK | :P |
| 06:05.00 | ekcolnovkol | that question is rhetorical |
| 06:05.00 | `3ICE | that was a blizzard quote :) |
| 06:05.06 | MavercK | my name is "misspelled" on purpose |
| 06:05.07 | ekcolnovkol | RHETORICAL QUESTION |
| 06:05.22 | ekcolnovkol | it's more like "i think chat channels are the norm" |
| 06:07.13 | Reactorex | `3ICE: link! |
| 06:07.21 | ekcolnovkol | how the hell do i target a player who activates the ability of an ally unit Q_Q |
| 06:07.23 | `3ICE | cant |
| 06:07.27 | ekcolnovkol | really? |
| 06:07.30 | Reactorex | Do eet :O |
| 06:07.38 | `3ICE | my "cant" was @ Reactorex |
| 06:07.40 | ekcolnovkol | oh |
| 06:07.44 | ekcolnovkol | but how D: |
| 06:07.47 | ekcolnovkol | i want to sleeps |
| 06:07.49 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 06:07.49 | Reactorex | Why nawt, Ice? :( |
| 06:07.57 | `3ICE | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128325 |
| 06:07.59 | `3ICE | there you go |
| 06:08.05 | `3ICE | (it is a joke link, not real) |
| 06:08.15 | Reactorex | Darn. :( |
| 06:08.26 | nicoli_s | yay MWE terrain view is looking nice :) |
| 06:08.46 | TheLaughingMan | wook |
| 06:08.50 | TheLaughingMan | Just added reals! |
| 06:09.09 | ekcolnovkol | someone halpme D; |
| 06:09.18 | Deuce | blizzard is wrong |
| 06:09.19 | ekcolnovkol | i'm too close q-q |
| 06:09.46 | TheLaughingMan | I think Blizzard will eventually release a lan only version |
| 06:09.57 | `3ICE | i think not |
| 06:10.05 | `3ICE | remember, it is ACTIVISION-Blizzard now |
| 06:10.12 | Daara | anyone available to help test a map? |
| 06:10.18 | Daara | private game |
| 06:10.29 | TheLaughingMan | Well when Battle.Net servers crash in the middle of a tournament it will be pure chaos |
| 06:10.34 | Lyrrad | which server? |
| 06:11.17 | TheLaughingMan | But the LAN Version will probably be just for LAN and cost $20 a pop |
| 06:11.26 | Deuce | $60 |
| 06:11.48 | Reactorex | Okay, found a link. :P |
| 06:12.25 | TheLaughingMan | ACTIVIONSION-Blizzard will realize they can make more money on releasing a LAN version only |
| 06:13.09 | Reactorex | You think Kotick shares that reasoning? |
| 06:13.35 | Deuce | if bnet goes down, multiplayer isn't even possible is it |
| 06:13.41 | Reactorex | It is. |
| 06:13.47 | Reactorex | Not in a conventional way, but it is. |
| 06:13.57 | TheLaughingMan | Through a third party program |
| 06:14.01 | Deuce | how hard could it be to include tcp/ip or lan |
| 06:14.02 | Reactorex | You can emulate Battle.net 2.0, just like you could emulate Battle.net. |
| 06:14.12 | Reactorex | It's not whether it's hard, Deuce. |
| 06:14.25 | TheLaughingMan | It's all about $$$ |
| 06:14.45 | `3ICE | Another thing I thought you'd promised was chat rooms within Battle.net... |
| 06:14.45 | `3ICE | Nope. No plans for specific chat rooms at this time. You'll be able to open up chats direct with your friends, and when we add clans and groups there'll be chats for your clans and groups, but no specific plans for chat rooms right now. Do you really want chat rooms? |
| 06:14.48 | Reactorex | User prevention seems to be a main factor in the decision. |
| 06:14.56 | TheLaughingMan | Or better yet, They can realease a LAN only version that cost $0.50/min to play |
| 06:15.12 | Deuce | YES BLIZZARD WE DO WANT CHAT ROOMS |
| 06:15.53 | TheLaughingMan | Chat rooms cost $0.01/sec of idling |
| 06:15.58 | Nuknfuts | so i take it nothing new got added this past weekend? |
| 06:16.07 | TheLaughingMan | $0.10/message |
| 06:16.10 | `3ICE | Poll: Do you like the direction BNET 2.0 is taking? |
| 06:16.10 | `3ICE | No! 94% (6258 votes) |
| 06:16.11 | `3ICE | Yes 6% (373 votes) |
| 06:16.41 | Deuce | like im cool with new random crap like facebook integration and achievments and whatnot |
| 06:16.49 | Deuce | but i still want the basic functions ok? |
| 06:17.08 | TheLaughingMan | Soon they will realease a patch for SC2 where it costs $0.50/unit produced |
| 06:17.52 | ekcolnovkol | ice halpme D; |
| 06:17.54 | Deuce | then people might actually build ultralisks! |
| 06:18.27 | Daara | If you'd like to help test a CTF style map I'll be on for another 2 hours add daaralegacy@yahoo.com and i'll invite you to the private game. |
| 06:18.32 | TheLaughingMan | Activision only cares about it being released ontime at the moment |
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| 06:18.45 | TheLaughingMan | After that Blizzard might release some cool stuff |
| 06:18.46 | ekcolnovkol | D; |
| 06:19.06 | Deuce | honestly given bnet 2.0's behavior lately I don't think it will even be ready by launch date |
| 06:19.24 | `3ICE | yo ekcolnovkol you can loop thru all players and check who has said unit selected |
| 06:19.27 | `3ICE | simple solution |
| 06:19.53 | TheLaughingMan | Deuce, it will be ready by launch date just it will be laggy as hell |
| 06:20.13 | Deuce | you and I seem to have a different definition of ready |
| 06:20.13 | TheLaughingMan | We will just see how things go when they turn on the release servers and move off of the beta servers |
| 06:20.47 | largelyrandom | When you see people creating FPS games with this Editor, making a TD doesnt feel all that special :D |
| 06:20.58 | Deuce | eh, if I wanted to play an FPS i'd buy an FPS |
| 06:21.09 | ekcolnovkol | the problem with that is i can't change the currently selected unit from the barrack to the unit |
| 06:21.19 | Deuce | it's not like an SC2 FPS will ever be as good as MW2 or something |
| 06:21.20 | ekcolnovkol | without the player having to do anything |
| 06:21.35 | largelyrandom | Might still be fun, but I get your point |
| 06:22.23 | largelyrandom | Has anyone made or spotted a TD with mazing by the way? |
| 06:22.34 | largelyrandom | Like, not the ones where you build stuff on a ledge and shoot down at mobs |
| 06:22.45 | wOlfLinG | How do i modify the xp gained from a unit? My heros dont give xp to each other |
| 06:22.49 | TheLaughingMan | Battle.net 2.0 Chat will cost... $0.10/Chat Message & $0.01/Second Idling |
| 06:22.55 | Daara | If you'd like to help test a CTF style map I'll be on for another 2 hours add daaralegacy@yahoo.com and i'll invite you to the private game. |
| 06:23.01 | onetwo | theres a field |
| 06:23.03 | onetwo | for each unit |
| 06:23.05 | onetwo | in data editor |
| 06:23.07 | onetwo | called |
| 06:23.08 | ekcolnovkol | if i could just target the "last player who spent resources" this would be so easy |
| 06:23.11 | onetwo | killing experience |
| 06:23.13 | onetwo | i think? |
| 06:23.15 | largelyrandom | yeah |
| 06:23.16 | largelyrandom | there is |
| 06:23.32 | ekcolnovkol | yes there is, but you can't call it |
| 06:23.35 | ekcolnovkol | you can modify it |
| 06:23.42 | ekcolnovkol | or maybe it was the other way around |
| 06:24.01 | ekcolnovkol | there are a bunch of missing functions that should come out with the actual release ;( |
| 06:24.05 | ekcolnovkol | i hope |
| 06:24.07 | TheLaughingMan | I am off to bed, I got the basics to my Serialization going |
| 06:24.09 | largelyrandom | Dont think you can modify it in a trigger |
| 06:24.21 | onetwo | k |
| 06:24.36 | largelyrandom | I was looking through pretty much all the unit variables to find two I could call AND modify |
| 06:24.52 | largelyrandom | ended up with cargo and ammo |
| 06:25.11 | largelyrandom | which has wrecked havoc in the rest of my TD :S |
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| 06:26.02 | Deuce | well that's weak |
| 06:26.48 | wOlfLinG | right, im ready to upload my first draft :) |
| 06:26.48 | NeoDeathXp | what format does sound have to be in i know mp3 can be used but its friggen huge |
| 06:27.12 | Deuce | mp3 is huge? |
| 06:27.13 | Nuknfuts | definitely agree w/ that statement Deuce |
| 06:27.18 | Nuknfuts | about fps's |
| 06:27.24 | wOlfLinG | :/ Says bnet connection was lost when i try to publish it |
| 06:27.25 | largelyrandom | heh |
| 06:27.30 | largelyrandom | .ogg, but thats not much better |
| 06:27.31 | Deuce | starcraft had to use .wav |
| 06:27.54 | largelyrandom | You cant really get sound much smaller than .mp3, unless you do .midi, and that barely works anywhere anymore |
| 06:27.58 | onetwo | world of wavcraft |
| 06:28.15 | Deuce | .midi isn't even really sound :P |
| 06:28.20 | largelyrandom | Exactly |
| 06:28.23 | onetwo | what is it? |
| 06:28.27 | largelyrandom | A score |
| 06:28.31 | Deuce | it's like pre-recorded notes |
| 06:28.35 | NeoDeathXp | ugh 10 megs is killing me |
| 06:28.41 | largelyrandom | Your soundcard comes with a bunch of instruments, picks one and plays the tune |
| 06:28.44 | NeoDeathXp | even with mods |
| 06:28.46 | Deuce | use an mp3 with a lower bitrate then |
| 06:28.47 | largelyrandom | Or, they used to |
| 06:29.05 | onetwo | afk |
| 06:31.46 | Daara | If you'd like to help test a CTF style map I'll be on for another 2 hours add soccergoalie_3_@hotmail.com and i'll invite you to the private game. |
| 06:32.04 | wOlfLinG | hmm... cant publish my map due to: 1) Not being logged into bnet (says i lost connection whenever i try), 'Document dependancys header file is not avaliable: Teams 01 (mod)', 3) 'Document dependancys header file is not avaliable: Liberty Mulyi (mod)', 4) Locked status has not been set. Anyone know how to fix these? |
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| 06:33.06 | wOlfLinG | anyone? I want to publish this :( |
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| 06:34.36 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 06:35.02 | wOlfLinG | hi |
| 06:35.14 | wOlfLinG | so can no-one shed light on my upload problem? |
| 06:35.49 | heysparky | anyone know the hotkey to render the skybox beneath the world (space platform) |
| 06:36.31 | heysparky | Right now I see the bottom of the cliffs as if they were terrain ... actually, I guess it's not rendering the skybox so much as NOT rendering the lowest terrain level |
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| 06:38.28 | wOlfLinG | wth cant i log into bnet? >< |
| 06:39.46 | largelyrandom | Dunno, I can :) |
| 06:41.35 | NeoDeathXp | ugh they need to allow you to store and use pictures in mod files |
| 06:42.17 | NeoDeathXp | i need 3 mod file, pictures, sound and Models |
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| 06:46.25 | pirata_ | i will give you a cookie if you can help me get this marine flamethrower attack to wrok |
| 06:46.42 | pirata_ | *work |
| 06:46.57 | wOlfLinG | And my map is PUBLISHED! |
| 06:47.02 | pirata_ | I had the damage working, but no animation for it |
| 06:47.13 | wOlfLinG | any eu players here? |
| 06:47.24 | pirata_ | and the hellion attack actor is hella complicated |
| 06:48.00 | wOlfLinG | well, if anyone here is on the eu servers and wants to play on mah newly made map, just say :) |
| 06:51.06 | nicoli_s | sweet, MWE can now edit game strings in maps that can then be opened with GE |
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| 06:57.45 | wOlfLinG | How do i get all players to be on enemy teams? |
| 06:59.02 | Reactorex | Like FFA? |
| 06:59.02 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 06:59.02 | Reactorex | Two methods. |
| 06:59.02 | Reactorex | 1: Make it FFA in-game via triggers. |
| 06:59.02 | Reactorex | 2: Game Variants. |
| 06:59.04 | Reactorex | 1 will not reflect in the game lobby, but is absolute. |
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| 06:59.15 | Reactorex | 2 will reflect in the game lobby and players will know if they have it set up right. |
| 06:59.52 | wOlfLinG | done :). ty |
| 07:00.05 | Reactorex | NOTE |
| 07:00.18 | Reactorex | If you want to set the teams to FFA in Game Variants, DO NOT use (Game) Teams to do it! |
| 07:00.46 | wOlfLinG | I click generate defaults then set FFA to default |
| 07:00.59 | Reactorex | That'll do, since it uses premade. |
| 07:01.03 | wOlfLinG | k |
| 07:01.07 | Reactorex | If you want to do it manually: |
| 07:01.21 | Reactorex | Use (Game) Premade Game and set it to "Yes", locked. |
| 07:01.30 | Reactorex | Then (Game) Teams [Premade] = Free for All, locked. |
| 07:01.35 | Reactorex | And set it to default. |
| 07:02.04 | ekcolnovkol | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.05 | ekcolnovkol | ;/ |
| 07:02.35 | wOlfLinG | hmmm... why is my map an enUS map? |
| 07:03.08 | Reactorex | Why are you using "Unit is clicked", Ekcolnovkol? |
| 07:03.20 | ekcolnovkol | for awesome reasons :( |
| 07:03.25 | ekcolnovkol | to pick heroes, namely |
| 07:03.35 | Reactorex | Why not use selected, then? |
| 07:03.38 | wOlfLinG | just use triggers |
| 07:03.40 | ekcolnovkol | i'm trying that just now |
| 07:03.43 | Reactorex | If they're not owned by the player, that should work. |
| 07:03.46 | Reactorex | I use it in my map. |
| 07:04.04 | Reactorex | You can only select one unit at a time if it's not yours and you don't have control. |
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| 07:04.15 | wOlfLinG | as in x scvs spawn and move towards the hero they want, they die and a hero spawns |
| 07:04.24 | ekcolnovkol | reactor |
| 07:04.31 | Reactorex | Wolfling, that's an oldschool way. :P |
| 07:04.38 | wOlfLinG | ya :) |
| 07:04.45 | Reactorex | Mhm, ekc? |
| 07:04.48 | wOlfLinG | If it aint broke, dont fix it :D |
| 07:04.49 | ekcolnovkol | have you gotten neutral buildings to produce units owned by the player spending minerals |
| 07:05.01 | Reactorex | Haven't tried. |
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| 07:05.32 | ekcolnovkol | this should be simpler, can you target "last player who spent minerals" |
| 07:05.34 | heysparky | ctrl-T is the answer |
| 07:05.42 | ekcolnovkol | i've looked for hours but no dice |
| 07:05.43 | ekcolnovkol | :< |
| 07:05.56 | ekcolnovkol | what is ctrl T D; |
| 07:06.16 | heysparky | the question I asked... how you get hidden terrain not to render |
| 07:06.41 | ekcolnovkol | i love the button V |
| 07:06.48 | ekcolnovkol | :d |
| 07:07.29 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/eno/. The Burntide Arena (Melee). Bixybixy2 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:07.39 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/cosmic-contraction/. Cosmic Contraction. Xeeg (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:07.44 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hydralisk-death-parade/. Hydralisk Death Parade. xytor (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:07.48 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/bixy/. The Burntide Arena (Melee). Bixybixy2 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:10.15 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r88 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (15 files in 3 directories): |
| 07:10.16 | Repo | fixed string handling, expanding it to one day be multi language |
| 07:10.17 | Repo | fixed launching maps....i think |
| 07:10.19 | Repo | fixed a few terrain loading calls to use new mpq loading stuff |
| 07:10.20 | Repo | changed the way mpq loading works so we properly read in the patch path including the mod and mpq filename |
| 07:10.34 | nicoli_s | yay big commit message :) |
| 07:10.46 | Reactorex | ekcolnovkol, I've got something I can test... |
| 07:10.57 | Reactorex | I just need to make a neutral building from which players can train a unit. |
| 07:11.20 | Reactorex | That's going to be the long part for me :P |
| 07:11.47 | heysparky | I can also recommend NOT hitting ctrl-shift-alt-S |
| 07:12.03 | heysparky | unless you WANT to step through 1000 different perftastic renders |
| 07:12.05 | Reactorex | In which module, sparky? |
| 07:12.10 | Reactorex | :P |
| 07:12.26 | heysparky | Terrain module |
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| 07:14.46 | DaveKap_ | what happened to that thread on the official sc2 forums where everyone was rallying for chat rooms |
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| 07:14.55 | DaveKap_ | oh wrong thread |
| 07:14.57 | `3ICE | deleted obviously |
| 07:14.58 | DaveKap_ | er forum |
| 07:15.01 | DaveKap_ | i wasn't on the beta forum |
| 07:15.20 | DaveKap_ | there it is |
| 07:16.20 | probalon | anyone know which event lets me trigger actions relating to a unit's hitpoints? All the ones that I figure seemingly would be the answer, haven't allowed me to define the damage taken |
| 07:16.58 | Fatal510 | QUESTION! |
| 07:17.02 | Fatal510 | http://i.imgur.com/C6KBR.png BAM! |
| 07:17.07 | Fatal510 | how do i recreate that in sc2 editor |
| 07:17.18 | wacko | lol |
| 07:17.20 | arbitrage | lol |
| 07:17.22 | arbitrage | rabits vs sheep |
| 07:17.24 | arbitrage | FUCKING NOOB |
| 07:17.38 | Fatal510 | how do i put a stock limit on training a unit |
| 07:17.43 | arbitrage | or is that the tower d |
| 07:17.43 | Fatal510 | and have it recharge |
| 07:17.49 | arbitrage | HINT LOOK AT WARP GATE FAGGOT |
| 07:17.55 | Fatal510 | oh shit! |
| 07:18.03 | arbitrage | PLAY PROTOSS MORE NOOB |
| 07:18.05 | arbitrage | >:) |
| 07:18.09 | Fatal510 | protoss is all i play bitch |
| 07:18.12 | Fatal510 | you wanna see my skillz |
| 07:18.14 | Fatal510 | no voidrays |
| 07:18.18 | arbitrage | hells yah |
| 07:18.18 | Fatal510 | 1v1 ! |
| 07:18.21 | Fatal510 | start your game |
| 07:18.23 | arbitrage | lol i love massing void rays |
| 07:18.26 | arbitrage | later i gotat go to sleep |
| 07:18.30 | Fatal510 | chicken |
| 07:18.32 | Fatal510 | bak bak! |
| 07:18.41 | arbitrage | hm i dont want to give u my real email either |
| 07:18.42 | arbitrage | hmmm |
| 07:18.50 | Fatal510 | lulz |
| 07:18.56 | arbitrage | pm me tmrw or something |
| 07:19.52 | Fatal510 | but thanks for that hint about the warpgate |
| 07:19.54 | Fatal510 | didnt think about that |
| 07:20.00 | Fatal510 | that should have what i need perfectly |
| 07:20.33 | DaveKap_ | wow touhou is awful |
| 07:20.34 | DaveKap_ | how is it #1 |
| 07:20.42 | Fatal510 | ? |
| 07:21.00 | `3ICE | just becase you are awful at it... :) |
| 07:21.08 | DaveKap_ | because it doesn't control precisely |
| 07:21.11 | DaveKap_ | is that b.net's fault? |
| 07:21.16 | DaveKap_ | does it seriously not just play locally? |
| 07:23.43 | Reactorex | Nope, I don't know how to make a neutral training buildling. |
| 07:23.48 | Reactorex | building |
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| 07:28.08 | Reactorex | ekcolnovkol: I'll have to look at it tomorrow night or whenever I get free. I'm too tired to get the data editor part working to work with my triggers. |
| 07:28.20 | Reactorex | Sorry. >_> |
| 07:28.34 | Reactorex | If you figure it out before then, let me know so I don't wind up redoing it :P |
| 07:35.03 | Daara | if you want to make a neutral training building just make it owned by Neutral or Hostile player but share control with the player |
| 07:35.22 | Daara | and make a trigger that changes ownership of the units it produces |
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| 07:42.32 | Clord | uploading HD video of Fortress Fight map soon XD |
| 07:43.21 | Clord | I kinda like my consept of defense specialist (scv), offense specialist (queen) and support specialist (Probe) |
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| 08:05.27 | wOlfLinG | My map is epic now :D |
| 08:06.07 | wOlfLinG | Just need to find a way to detect if a player is playing and if not, kill all his units on the map permanatly |
| 08:06.55 | Dustin | Status of Player |
| 08:07.00 | Dustin | Condition |
| 08:08.08 | wOlfLinG | wheres that? I cant find it in condition |
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| 08:08.31 | Nuknfuts | damn headers still arent fixed? |
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| 08:14.30 | wOlfLinG | What would cause heros to see through LOS blockers? |
| 08:26.35 | Clord | lol LOS blockers |
| 08:26.44 | Clord | probably movers can cause various stuff like that |
| 08:26.52 | Clord | as air units has better field of view |
| 08:26.53 | Clord | etc |
| 08:31.08 | wOlfLinG | not the movers |
| 08:31.18 | wOlfLinG | All sight is exactly the same as a marine |
| 08:31.24 | wOlfLinG | Yet the marine cant see through |
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| 08:43.47 | Lyrrad | There is an option for units called "Vision Height" for most land units that is 0, if you set it higher then they will be able to over things like LOS blockers and cliffs |
| 08:44.33 | Nuknfuts | is there any way to attach los blockers to a unit or building? |
| 08:44.59 | Lyrrad | Interesting, I have no idea, I would imagine you could |
| 08:45.47 | Nuknfuts | id prefer to do it w/ data edtior of course |
| 08:45.58 | Nuknfuts | i wonder what in data editor defines being a blocker |
| 08:47.17 | Lyrrad | not sure |
| 08:49.46 | Lyrrad | the current LOS blockers are all doodads |
| 08:50.59 | Nuknfuts | nvm figured it out |
| 08:51.02 | Nuknfuts | its all in footprint |
| 08:51.53 | Lyrrad | I found the pathing in the footprint, I missed the LOS blocking tho |
| 08:52.12 | Nuknfuts | not sure how the game distinguishes between air and ground units on this one though |
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| 08:53.41 | Lyrrad | I'm not seeing the LOS on the footprint |
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| 08:55.05 | Nuknfuts | me neither actually, but the vision blocking is indeed caused by changing footprint... hm |
| 08:55.30 | Lyrrad | good, I was worried I was going blind |
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| 08:56.19 | Lyrrad | The footprint editing is a bit confusing |
| 08:57.31 | Nuknfuts | yeah im not entirely sure |
| 08:57.34 | Nuknfuts | where the connection is made |
| 08:57.45 | Nuknfuts | theres definitely parts of the data editor where things just "happen" |
| 09:01.56 | Lyrrad | I am just not seeing where the LOS is in the footprint, but the name of the footprints strongly indicates that is where los set up |
| 09:02.30 | Pandepic | is anyone else feeling a bit uneasy about the Blizzard plans for premium user content? |
| 09:03.04 | Lyrrad | I haven't really heard anything about it |
| 09:03.28 | Lyrrad | you pay extra and get access to additional maps and stuff? |
| 09:03.44 | Pandepic | they will be selling user created maps |
| 09:03.51 | Pandepic | a.k.a our maps |
| 09:04.00 | Pandepic | apparently |
| 09:04.24 | Nuknfuts | not quite |
| 09:04.36 | Nuknfuts | itll be like the app store for phones in a lot of ways supposedly... |
| 09:04.52 | Nuknfuts | you upload maps etc. and if they approve of your request to sell it, then yes people can pay x $ to get it |
| 09:04.52 | Pandepic | from what I've read, there will be normal maps, and premium maps |
| 09:05.30 | Lyrrad | So, I make a map, and then choose if I want blizzard to charge people for it, or if I want it to be free? |
| 09:06.15 | Pandepic | I think it kind of goes against the way the mapping community has worked from sc1 and wc3 for so long |
| 09:06.39 | Nuknfuts | i bet how it works is that you choose how much you want to charge people for it and if blizzard thinks it qualifies |
| 09:06.42 | Pandepic | people will start doing stupid crap like on XBLIG |
| 09:06.44 | Nuknfuts | yes it is, and its because blizzard is all about the $$ |
| 09:06.45 | Lyrrad | but it is in the direction the gaming industry is going |
| 09:06.50 | Pandepic | making quick easy maps for profit |
| 09:06.58 | Nuknfuts | they know people will pay for shit in wow so thank them for that |
| 09:07.00 | Nuknfuts | BUT |
| 09:07.07 | Nuknfuts | blizzard also said that premium maps must be exactly that... premium |
| 09:07.14 | Nuknfuts | dota was not worthy of being charged for is exactly what they said |
| 09:07.19 | Pandepic | lol |
| 09:07.25 | Pandepic | they'll put up any map they think will sell imo |
| 09:07.45 | Nuknfuts | so they probably expect maps with heavy editing/modding and custom animations etc |
| 09:07.49 | Nuknfuts | me neither, but you never know... |
| 09:08.03 | Pandepic | I can't see them denying DOTA lol |
| 09:08.12 | Pandepic | it's by far the most popular map of all time |
| 09:08.13 | Nuknfuts | the thing is, this system is still a year out supposedly |
| 09:08.24 | Lyrrad | I can see them denying DOTA |
| 09:08.25 | Nuknfuts | it is... but popular != good |
| 09:08.32 | Pandepic | but popular = money |
| 09:08.44 | Lyrrad | there is so many of them, why would you pay for one when there is hundreds for free |
| 09:08.52 | Pandepic | this problem has happened on XBLIG and caused controversy |
| 09:08.52 | Nuknfuts | but... popular also casue its free |
| 09:08.58 | Pandepic | where things that are retarded get really popular |
| 09:09.01 | Pandepic | like vibrating controller apps |
| 09:09.18 | Pandepic | and sell a huge amount of copies |
| 09:09.23 | Nuknfuts | i think the thing is, blizzard cant charge for maps that the creator doesnt want to be charged for |
| 09:09.42 | IcE^ | i can see that paying for a small campain map with a few hours of playtime would definitly be worth it |
| 09:09.43 | Lyrrad | I would imagine the creator gets a cut of the action |
| 09:09.45 | Nuknfuts | its just like how you can put great apps on the itunes store but you choose the price |
| 09:09.52 | IcE^ | paying for a multiplayer map i see as less likely |
| 09:10.01 | Nuknfuts | some people are retarded enough to pay $1000 for an app that has a diamond picture saying ur rich |
| 09:10.08 | Nuknfuts | yeah small campaigns definitely |
| 09:10.16 | IcE^ | or big campaigns .) |
| 09:10.26 | Nuknfuts | think of the beast lord campaign in wc3... |
| 09:10.52 | Nuknfuts | theyd probably ask for a minimum of that kind of involvement in the system... |
| 09:11.24 | Nuknfuts | multiplayer i can see if banks work out well for multiplayer |
| 09:11.47 | Nuknfuts | some kind of continuous rpg across x different maps could easily sell if its good |
| 09:11.53 | Nuknfuts | and by good i mean its not a copy of somethign existing... |
| 09:12.06 | Nuknfuts | i know itll be fun to create diablo 2.5 or whatever but it's based on someone else's work |
| 09:12.32 | Clord | fellowship XD |
| 09:12.34 | Clord | in space |
| 09:12.54 | Lyrrad | Propriatary material they won't be able to charge for |
| 09:13.05 | Clord | lol be creative |
| 09:13.15 | Clord | ring can be called anything etc |
| 09:13.19 | Clord | one powercore! |
| 09:13.19 | Clord | XD |
| 09:13.25 | Clord | to power them all |
| 09:13.36 | Clord | ancient war mechs |
| 09:14.40 | Lyrrad | Fellowship of the powercore, The Two Lampposts, Return of the Generator |
| 09:16.00 | Nuknfuts | yeah lol |
| 09:16.09 | Nuknfuts | but yeah good point too Lyrrad... if theres a copy right to your idea |
| 09:16.11 | Nuknfuts | they cant charge |
| 09:16.44 | Lyrrad | Not without permission of the copy right holder, in the case of Diablo, they might be able to arrange it |
| 09:17.13 | Clord | there is easy way to avoid that law thing problem |
| 09:17.18 | Clord | bit different names and look of stuff |
| 09:17.26 | Clord | there is tons of people who have done just that |
| 09:17.29 | Clord | to be able to charge |
| 09:17.36 | Clord | star wreck - in the pirkinning is good example XD |
| 09:19.10 | Nuknfuts | yeah but blizzzard may not approve it either :P |
| 09:20.00 | Nuknfuts | i think the key either way is that the map needs to be significally different from the core material given to be considered as premium |
| 09:20.20 | Nuknfuts | custom models/animations/sounds etc., they gave us all those tools so they expect us to use it |
| 09:20.44 | Nuknfuts | cause at the end of it... dota was a great game, but it was mostly based on existing materials + sounds they took from UT :P |
| 09:21.04 | Lyrrad | You mean my map made of 1 trigger "On Map Initilization - End game in victory for player 1" wouldn't be considered premium? |
| 09:22.07 | Lyrrad | And my other map for those that like a challenge "On Map Initilization - End game in defeat for player 1" wouldn't be considered premium either? |
| 09:23.14 | IcE^ | Nuknfuts: well.. wasnt dota a completly different kind of game than the original wc3? |
| 09:23.20 | Nuknfuts | well if you add an animation it might! |
| 09:23.33 | Nuknfuts | sure, but it was based entirely on what existed from blizzard |
| 09:23.48 | IcE^ | in that case i think it would be ok to pay for it.. but didn't blizzard say that micropayments was not to be.. atleast not for now? |
| 09:24.07 | Nuknfuts | not for a year supposedly |
| 09:24.34 | Nuknfuts | id say the difference isn't the gameplay itself is necessarily different... its is there enough user created content |
| 09:24.44 | Nuknfuts | and not based on existing content blizzard handed to you |
| 09:25.56 | IcE^ | yea.. you are probably right |
| 09:26.22 | IcE^ | but in the end it will be up to the mapcreator right? if they choose to mark it as "premium" or not ? |
| 09:26.31 | Nuknfuts | i mean dont get me wrong... dota is very well made and theres custom spells etc., but its all based on blizzard's animations/models |
| 09:26.37 | IcE^ | like the 1000$ "imrich" app .) |
| 09:26.41 | Nuknfuts | not entirely... i mean blizzard would probably have to approve it |
| 09:27.01 | Nuknfuts | yes but it was because apple actually accepted it since apple doesnt care if you're stpuid, theyre getting a cut :P |
| 09:33.38 | rrowland | Is there really an app like that? |
| 09:33.41 | rrowland | If not I should make one |
| 09:34.21 | rrowland | Costs $1000 and all it does is shout "I spent $1000 on this app because I'm fucking rich" |
| 09:34.51 | Lyrrad | Anyone who bought it should be executed for the good of the species |
| 09:35.06 | Nuknfuts | yes there actaully was |
| 09:35.07 | rrowland | Or thanked profusely for giving me $1000 |
| 09:35.10 | rrowland | Both work for me |
| 09:35.17 | Nuknfuts | apple ended up pulling it because it made em look like money grubbers |
| 09:35.24 | rrowland | Cool |
| 09:35.25 | Nuknfuts | but 10 ppl actually bought it |
| 09:35.28 | rrowland | I'm gonna make it on droid |
| 09:35.28 | Nuknfuts | all itw as was a diamond for an icon |
| 09:35.41 | Lyrrad | Apple is a bunch of money grubbers |
| 09:35.42 | Nuknfuts | so some guy got rich off people with far more money than sense |
| 09:35.58 | rrowland | Mine's going to cost $10,000 |
| 09:36.11 | rrowland | Of which droid will get $3,000 |
| 09:36.18 | rrowland | Because they take an insane 30% |
| 09:37.54 | Nuknfuts | apples is the same :P |
| 09:38.05 | Nuknfuts | 30% is kind of the way everyone takes a cut anyways |
| 09:38.12 | Nuknfuts | the most common "discount" people say you'll get is 30% |
| 09:38.12 | MavercK | anyone on EU wanna help me bump my map |
| 09:38.57 | MavercK | trying for the 5th time to replace Izo's version |
| 09:43.23 | Lyrrad | good night |
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| 10:54.40 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/arenawars/. Arenawars. mathck (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
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| 11:24.03 | Durrean | so quiet.. |
| 11:24.17 | Polarn | . |
| 11:24.49 | `3ICE | generates some noise. |
| 11:24.52 | Durrean | so dotlike |
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| 11:44.41 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/poll-interview-power-of-chaos-reaper-sidescroller/ |
| 11:45.55 | Phatency | reaper sidescroller is really fun to play :> |
| 11:48.54 | MavercK | it's just a shame everyones going to have to manually download maps like that and play them through the editor :< |
| 11:49.00 | MavercK | they wont get as much praise as they deserve i think |
| 11:49.05 | Grum | for now |
| 11:49.28 | MavercK | well. if they ever implement local hosting i'll be shocked and amazed :P |
| 11:50.09 | Grum | local hosting has nothing to do with downloading maps though |
| 11:50.34 | MavercK | well what i meant is that playing these maps online is a chore |
| 11:50.37 | MavercK | due to input lag |
| 11:50.57 | Grum | input lag? |
| 11:51.06 | MavercK | if it's a WASD map or something. |
| 11:51.18 | Grum | you mean the fact the minimum game-lag is 125ms |
| 11:51.27 | MavercK | yes |
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| 11:55.50 | Shadowclaimer | rrowland! |
| 11:55.52 | Shadowclaimer | Just the man I was looking for |
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| 12:20.59 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/waterworks-deathmatch-tps/. Waterworks [Deathmatch TPS]. malu05 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
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| 12:43.33 | ekcolnovkol | is anyone here :U |
| 12:43.54 | ekcolnovkol | this must be space because nobody can hear me scream >:@@@@@@@@@@ |
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| 12:44.01 | ekcolnovkol | WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 12:45.28 | pkol | how do i change my editor's localisation? |
| 12:46.35 | Clord | you don't |
| 12:46.45 | Clord | other than with another client |
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| 12:57.51 | ekcolnovkol | why do data tables fail me so much Q_Q |
| 12:57.55 | ekcolnovkol | weeps |
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| 13:25.43 | Durrean | can anyone tell me why i can't join another game after a custome one because it's not available in lobby? |
| 13:25.50 | Durrean | battlenet |
| 13:31.05 | sherard | you have to wait |
| 13:31.11 | sherard | for some reason |
| 13:31.20 | sherard | when you play a game online custom wise |
| 13:31.32 | sherard | you have to wait till the join button no longer says text |
| 13:31.43 | sherard | after that then you can join and it wont freeze up |
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| 13:40.52 | Durrean | thats stupid |
| 13:40.59 | Durrean | but relogging s doing it too |
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| 13:44.24 | Durrean | uhh i should have patched earlier.. the unit tab is organized.. |
| 13:45.08 | Durrean | or i did not clicked that button before |
| 13:46.43 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuID3xp9Emc |
| 13:49.01 | Durrean | to be honest, i don't know the original map and the video brings me just confusion |
| 13:51.19 | ekcolnovkol | is it still possible to publish maps now |
| 13:51.23 | Clord | yeah |
| 13:51.32 | ekcolnovkol | i keep getting battle.net connection list |
| 13:51.34 | ekcolnovkol | *lost |
| 13:53.05 | Clord | hehe Durrean... yeah... if you don't know popular WCIII castle fight it indeed kinda might confuse you |
| 13:53.06 | Clord | XD |
| 13:53.48 | Durrean | i think i played it 2 times, got being called a noob and banned out. so no I don't know it |
| 13:54.13 | Durrean | and i HATE maps who the people are kicking others out because they are new |
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| 13:58.38 | Clord | let me guess... XD |
| 13:58.47 | Clord | you spammed same structure? |
| 13:59.08 | Clord | then other thing what some get irritated if you build front of castle |
| 14:00.58 | Hati | germany is dying :( |
| 14:01.47 | Clord | lol |
| 14:01.49 | Clord | that is rather broad |
| 14:02.48 | TheLaughingMan | Is there any other kinds of string manipulations I can use? |
| 14:03.48 | Hati | i remember there were some |
| 14:03.50 | Hati | like substring |
| 14:04.41 | Hati | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/string-word/ |
| 14:04.58 | Hati | so no just 2 manipulations |
| 14:05.17 | Hati | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/string-equal/ |
| 14:05.31 | TheLaughingMan | No |
| 14:05.35 | TheLaughingMan | there are more then those two |
| 14:05.41 | Hati | Wiki says no. |
| 14:06.12 | TheLaughingMan | well |
| 14:06.31 | TheLaughingMan | That was |
| 14:06.33 | TheLaughingMan | updated |
| 14:06.34 | TheLaughingMan | 10 Mar 2010 |
| 14:06.41 | TheLaughingMan | before GE was done |
| 14:07.55 | Hati | then update :> |
| 14:07.58 | Hati | if you found more |
| 14:08.03 | Hati | atleast the manipulation ones :D |
| 14:08.15 | TheLaughingMan | Well there currents ones just suck |
| 14:11.59 | Skizot | morning ladies |
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| 14:21.41 | Judgment38 | Anyone have any idea how to fix that every event/condition/action of my map involving unit groups no longer works? |
| 14:22.20 | Hati | check if the unit group has units ? |
| 14:24.45 | Judgment38 | it's broken for every unit group, the old ones and even if I create a new one |
| 14:25.12 | Judgment38 | they used to work, then I deleted a unit group and it somehow messed EVERYTHING up :( |
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| 14:26.47 | redmarine | Does the method in the localization tutorial still work? |
| 14:27.11 | Hati | the \LocalizedData\ ? |
| 14:27.17 | Hati | root\LocalizedData\* |
| 14:27.18 | redmarine | yeah |
| 14:27.41 | redmarine | I can't seem to get it to work |
| 14:27.47 | Hati | dunno why ppl don't read the quote |
| 14:27.54 | Hati | Quote from xhatix: Go |
| 14:27.56 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.56 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.56 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.56 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.59 | Hati | BROKEN |
| 14:28.19 | redmarine | Meh |
| 14:28.22 | redmarine | Thought it was updated |
| 14:28.30 | Hati | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-localizer/ |
| 14:28.31 | Hati | use htis |
| 14:28.32 | Hati | this* |
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| 14:29.25 | redmarine | Alright |
| 14:30.08 | Hati | clearly now? |
| 14:31.12 | Hati | redmarine: are you soldat12 ? |
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| 14:41.57 | Clord | lol I got reply to youtube video |
| 14:41.59 | Clord | don't record replay |
| 14:42.00 | Clord | XD |
| 14:42.15 | Clord | sure I just play excellent ultra settings while my FPS is 1 |
| 14:43.03 | Clord | reminds me... there is FPS map what tells that it is third person map in europe side ;) |
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| 14:58.55 | Shmack | Can someone help me with this, I'm trying to set up a Dialog but i keep getting this Error http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6867/uhhh.jpg i followed these instructions http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/1216-trigger-make-a-dialog-for-race-class-selection/ |
| 15:01.07 | Shmack | Anyone?? |
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| 15:01.50 | Shmack | any one know anything about dialogs...? |
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| 15:02.21 | redmarine_ | Anyhow, is the localizer supposed to freeze? |
| 15:03.12 | redmarine_ | Each time I run an instance of the application and click "Localize" it simply freezes. |
| 15:04.47 | Azu | beateded new splinter cell :< |
| 15:05.44 | Helral | @azu: beateded? |
| 15:05.48 | Azu | yeah |
| 15:05.50 | Azu | beatededed |
| 15:05.51 | Helral | @azu was it that easy? |
| 15:05.55 | Azu | yeah |
| 15:05.58 | Helral | @azo: lol |
| 15:06.37 | Helral | is watching Angel Beats! Ep 9. |
| 15:06.42 | Azu | nice |
| 15:06.45 | Azu | dls |
| 15:07.19 | Helral | watches online. doesn't want to waste HD-space by storing eps. |
| 15:12.32 | `3ICE | <3 |
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| 15:13.55 | Azu | `3ICE |
| 15:13.57 | Azu | less scam |
| 15:14.08 | `3ICE | more wham |
| 15:14.18 | Azu | less sham |
| 15:14.27 | `3ICE | What are you talking about? |
| 15:14.30 | Azu | dno |
| 15:14.35 | Azu | im just bored |
| 15:14.36 | `3ICE | Yeah, me neither. |
| 15:14.45 | `3ICE | So am I. Studying for lit exam |
| 15:14.47 | `3ICE | oral... |
| 15:14.55 | `3ICE | those are the worst |
| 15:15.00 | Azu | ;_; |
| 15:15.16 | `3ICE | i mean why waste such a great sexual term on such a terrible terrible school-term |
| 15:15.28 | `3ICE | damage* |
| 15:15.29 | Azu | haha |
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| 15:18.29 | Shmack | Anyone know if you can have a player change his heros name? |
| 15:18.42 | RickA | Don't think so |
| 15:18.47 | `3ICE | catalogs? |
| 15:19.03 | Shmack | hmm i'll mess around with it some more |
| 15:19.14 | `3ICE | man i seriously need to check catalogs out they sound so powerful |
| 15:19.22 | `3ICE | yet i can nvr be sure when i recommend them to others |
| 15:19.30 | Shmack | lol |
| 15:19.45 | `3ICE | cause i have no idea what we can do with them except for the general concept of "change anything the data editor can, ingame" |
| 15:19.50 | Shmack | i have no idea what a catalog is >_< im still learning |
| 15:19.58 | `3ICE | tutorials help :) |
| 15:20.04 | Shmack | that they do :D |
| 15:21.14 | Azu | weqwqewqe |
| 15:28.09 | Judgment38 | Anyone know why all my events/conditions/actions involving unit groups don't work (they used to) and how to fix it? |
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| 15:35.32 | RickA | Judge, I'd have to see your whole map |
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| 15:41.26 | Judgment38 | hmm I could give it to you |
| 15:41.34 | Judgment38 | if you're willing to look at it |
| 15:43.56 | Judgment38 | would make my day, I'm completely stumped |
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| 15:51.12 | RodOfNOD | morn all |
| 15:51.43 | RodOfNOD | so i made a map that was tiny how do i make it so the entire area is usuable for map space and unit movement? |
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| 15:55.23 | Helral | @RodOfNOD: Check: Map-->Map bounds. |
| 15:56.09 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/ctf-desert-run/. CTF - Desert Run. FishbowlPete (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 15:56.22 | RodOfNOD | ya but its real weird |
| 15:56.23 | warbio | Is there a way to make a unit unable to target something outside a region? |
| 15:56.25 | RodOfNOD | doesnt work on 32x32 |
| 15:56.44 | RodOfNOD | works on 40x40 just fine |
| 15:57.04 | Helral | Camera bounds are always less then the map bounds. |
| 15:57.09 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 15:57.17 | RodOfNOD | but this is SEVerally less |
| 15:57.34 | RodOfNOD | it has room for like 20 banlings period |
| 15:57.50 | Helral | so if map bounds = 32x32 then camera is 8x8 orso? |
| 15:58.36 | Helral | just increase the map bounds and camera bounds together. ;) |
| 15:59.21 | RodOfNOD | go try it dont work for me |
| 15:59.47 | RodOfNOD | so another ? it appears that apply camera to a editor made camera makes the view 180 flipped? |
| 15:59.56 | AsaPhelps | okay I give up, how do you delete a project on mapster |
| 16:00.01 | Helral | well my old map size was 128x128 orso. I currently have it at 256x256... |
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| 16:00.56 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.56 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.12 | Helral | @Asa what's wrong? |
| 16:01.12 | RodOfNOD | can someone confirm this is a bug? |
| 16:01.34 | Helral | what do you have set for that camera 001? |
| 16:01.58 | RodOfNOD | i made a map 40 x 40 i said show entire map then i created a camera |
| 16:02.10 | AsaPhelps | I want to delete my project and reupload it because the url isn't what I wanted but I can't figure out how to do so Helral |
| 16:03.58 | MavercK | hm |
| 16:04.07 | MavercK | anyone tried copying salvage bunker |
| 16:04.19 | MavercK | i've got a "Sell" ability working but im not getting the minerals |
| 16:05.15 | Helral | @Rod: ok I tested it and my image ain't upside down. |
| 16:05.16 | RodOfNOD | weird |
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| 16:05.16 | RodOfNOD | i mean there is literally nothing i am doing differnt than that |
| 16:05.16 | RodOfNOD | ive done it several times now with new maps i make |
| 16:05.23 | `3ICE | try a 1° angle change |
| 16:05.35 | Azu | anyone wanna play some bfbc2? |
| 16:05.45 | Helral | @Asa send a pm to Sixen ;) |
| 16:06.22 | Helral | @Asa: he might be able to change the name for ya ;) |
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| 16:06.36 | RodOfNOD | 31ce ok but since im using the editor camera that would imply a bug in the GE |
| 16:06.46 | peterpants | anyone know of a way to get the text of a selected list item |
| 16:06.55 | Helral | @Rod: Exclude target |
| 16:06.59 | Helral | try that. |
| 16:07.32 | Helral | include target makes it face the same way as a certain unit. |
| 16:07.43 | Helral | I think at least it does ;p |
| 16:07.50 | Helral | at least it makes it follow a certain unit. |
| 16:08.21 | RodOfNOD | good idea didnt work :P |
| 16:09.34 | Helral | @peter: what kind of list item? |
| 16:10.03 | peterpants | Helral there are different kinds? a listbox i guess? |
| 16:10.14 | Helral | ahh it's Dialog ;p |
| 16:10.30 | Helral | meant which category makes it easier to find in the trigger editor ;p |
| 16:10.39 | peterpants | ya |
| 16:10.55 | peterpants | you can do selected list item, but i cant seem to make it relate to the text of it at all |
| 16:11.02 | peterpants | i can only get the # of the selected list item |
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| 16:12.08 | Helral | event: Dialog - Any Dialog Item is Changed Selection by Player Any Player.... Store the Dialog list items so you can use the variables as references. |
| 16:12.37 | RodOfNOD | lol they changed the center point of the map to bottom left from middle in wc3 |
| 16:12.55 | Helral | huh? |
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| 16:13.06 | RodOfNOD | in wc3 center point 0,0 was in middle of map |
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| 16:13.08 | peterpants | you're saying make an array of all the text values i assign to the list box and then when i get the number of the list box just relate it back to the array? |
| 16:13.09 | RodOfNOD | in sc2 its bottom left |
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| 16:13.37 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 16:13.50 | heysparky | peterpants! |
| 16:13.51 | Helral | center of map: (Center of (Entire map)) (function) |
| 16:13.58 | heysparky | haven't seen you in a while |
| 16:14.13 | Helral | also a Playable Map variant ;p |
| 16:14.21 | peterpants | i kno i has been workin :[ |
| 16:14.23 | RodOfNOD | i know but the value isnt 0,0 anymore |
| 16:15.17 | Helral | @peter: what I say is generate list item, store it in a variable like li_DisableTradeSelected<Dialog List Item> or something. |
| 16:15.39 | Helral | <Dialog Item>* |
| 16:15.49 | `3ICE | finally no mroe negative coordinates |
| 16:16.00 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 16:16.12 | peterpants | Helral right but then how would you get the text of the selected list item, a dialog item variable only relates to the listbox and not the selected item |
| 16:16.23 | `3ICE | whenever i dealt with coordinates in JASS the negative numbers made the block ugly |
| 16:16.27 | AsaPhelps | What flag causes you to get the message your forces are under attack? |
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| 16:16.54 | `3ICE | raise alarm |
| 16:17.15 | Clord | that dialog system is nice for complex menus |
| 16:17.16 | Clord | lol |
| 16:17.21 | RodOfNOD | wow no way to quit withoyt closing if u hide the UI hehe |
| 16:17.27 | Clord | banks are nice for options saving |
| 16:17.33 | `3ICE | F10 Q |
| 16:17.34 | AsaPhelps | raise alarm? is that under units - flags? |
| 16:17.42 | Helral | Event: Dialog - Any Dialog Item is Changed Selection by Player Any Player. Condition: Selected Dialog Item == Stored_Dialog_Variable |
| 16:17.52 | RodOfNOD | clord have u tested if the bank gets corrupted what sc2 does? |
| 16:18.25 | Helral | make that Used Dialog Item, instead of Selected Dialog Item. |
| 16:18.55 | Clord | SC2 banks... so far none has corrupted |
| 16:18.58 | Clord | and how they really would |
| 16:18.59 | Clord | lol |
| 16:19.00 | `3ICE | use town alert |
| 16:19.02 | `3ICE | i found it |
| 16:19.09 | AsaPhelps | I have that checked off |
| 16:19.13 | `3ICE | that's the only related flag |
| 16:19.14 | AsaPhelps | But it still spams it |
| 16:19.29 | `3ICE | replace sc2's combat system |
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| 16:19.35 | peterpants | make a listbox item, add a few items to it. then make another trigger that displays the text of the selected item when you click on it. that's what i'm trying to do |
| 16:19.47 | RodOfNOD | clord |
| 16:19.50 | RodOfNOD | exit the bank |
| 16:19.52 | `3ICE | peterpants you have to store the texts in an array |
| 16:19.52 | RodOfNOD | grr |
| 16:19.55 | RodOfNOD | edit the bank |
| 16:20.00 | RodOfNOD | and remove something critical |
| 16:20.04 | peterpants | ok, ya, that's what i was thinking |
| 16:20.07 | peterpants | thanks 3ICE |
| 16:20.15 | RodOfNOD | corruption could occur if u crashed during the write |
| 16:20.15 | `3ICE | np np |
| 16:20.33 | Clord | I don't see many reasons to remove from banks anything as they hardly even take meg |
| 16:20.48 | RodOfNOD | sigh |
| 16:20.56 | RodOfNOD | its a test |
| 16:21.00 | Clord | oh and...... lol |
| 16:21.03 | RodOfNOD | just thought since u were doing it alot |
| 16:21.06 | RodOfNOD | i wanted to see what happened |
| 16:21.09 | Clord | you would need insanely crap timing to corrupt bank with crash |
| 16:21.09 | Clord | XD |
| 16:21.15 | RodOfNOD | got 20000 things to TEST |
| 16:21.26 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:21.34 | Clord | so you try to find bugs |
| 16:21.37 | Clord | for blizzard |
| 16:21.43 | RodOfNOD | well yes |
| 16:22.00 | RodOfNOD | in that case they might have an exploitable bug that hackers would use which would piss me off |
| 16:24.48 | Clord | hehe |
| 16:25.26 | AsaPhelps | So if its not use town alert... what else could it be? |
| 16:26.57 | `3ICE | you will have to replace sc2's combat system |
| 16:27.16 | AsaPhelps | you talking to me ice? |
| 16:27.19 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 16:27.27 | AsaPhelps | that sounds difficult |
| 16:27.32 | `3ICE | of course :) |
| 16:28.01 | AsaPhelps | does "Not on radar" mean minimap? |
| 16:28.28 | AsaPhelps | because thats checked and it appears on my minimap |
| 16:28.29 | `3ICE | yeah probably |
| 16:28.35 | `3ICE | then it doesnt :) |
| 16:28.56 | AsaPhelps | maybe these are all the opposite |
| 16:29.03 | AsaPhelps | so when you say not on minimap its really on it |
| 16:29.08 | AsaPhelps | and when you say don't town alert it does |
| 16:29.11 | heysparky | Sometimes they seem that way |
| 16:29.16 | `3ICE | what i dont <beep> understand is why every unit has two flags checked that make no sense |
| 16:29.28 | AsaPhelps | which ones? |
| 16:29.33 | `3ICE | h/o opening editor |
| 16:29.47 | heysparky | Does anyone know what the different footprint types indicate... 3x3 creep, 2x2 Contour, etc |
| 16:29.52 | `3ICE | cannot be clicked |
| 16:29.55 | `3ICE | cannot be highlighted |
| 16:30.01 | `3ICE | those two are checked and i'm like wtf |
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| 16:30.25 | `3ICE | heysparky footprints can generate creep |
| 16:30.32 | `3ICE | contour is a creep countour, probably |
| 16:30.40 | `3ICE | around zerg buildings |
| 16:30.59 | heysparky | do zerg buildings deform the terrain? |
| 16:31.02 | `3ICE | we see a thin layer of creep even if there is no creep under the building and the building is slowly rotting away due to not being on creep |
| 16:31.02 | heysparky | I never noticed |
| 16:31.03 | AsaPhelps | I think those relate to triggers |
| 16:31.07 | AsaPhelps | But I don't know |
| 16:31.24 | `3ICE | those two flags should be "can be *" not "cannot be *" |
| 16:31.32 | `3ICE | read* |
| 16:31.34 | Vophsix | yeah thats confused me too |
| 16:31.37 | AsaPhelps | you can make buildings spawn creep by giving them a creep source behavior type |
| 16:31.52 | `3ICE | also no tooltip |
| 16:31.54 | `3ICE | is yes tooltip |
| 16:32.01 | `3ICE | and turnable is useless, we need unturnable |
| 16:32.05 | AsaPhelps | no, tooltip |
| 16:32.06 | heysparky | I gave that to my Hive Queen, she spreads creep as she moves, that's cool... |
| 16:32.09 | AsaPhelps | no, highlightable |
| 16:32.10 | heysparky | ty for the footprint info |
| 16:32.14 | `3ICE | so it doesnt need to be checked on every damn unit i want to turn |
| 16:32.17 | `3ICE | np np |
| 16:32.28 | AsaPhelps | sounds like your queen is op |
| 16:32.43 | AsaPhelps | you know whats fun |
| 16:32.48 | AsaPhelps | is attaching creep spawn to a builder |
| 16:32.52 | AsaPhelps | and trying to build |
| 16:32.53 | `3ICE | i left a mean comment on a map that had a creep-generating queen :) |
| 16:33.19 | `3ICE | ofc the mean comment wsn't because of that, it ws because of all the triggering errors |
| 16:33.50 | sherard | Is there anyone good with 3ds max? |
| 16:34.45 | AsaPhelps | okay so |
| 16:34.53 | AsaPhelps | the creep tumor and overlord spawn creep |
| 16:35.03 | AsaPhelps | and for the tumor for example the behavior makes it spawn 4x4 |
| 16:35.10 | AsaPhelps | but the total area is like 15x15 |
| 16:35.15 | AsaPhelps | what causes that? |
| 16:35.31 | `3ICE | the second or third item on the dropdown you haven't clicked. |
| 16:35.47 | `3ICE | what a cryptic answer :) i am sneaky! |
| 16:36.09 | Vophsix | has anyone managed to get the arc/arc slop working on projectiles yet? |
| 16:36.11 | AsaPhelps | what if I clicked all of them |
| 16:36.20 | `3ICE | then i am out of ideas |
| 16:36.30 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 16:36.34 | AsaPhelps | this tooltip says its 4x42 |
| 16:36.38 | `3ICE | my editor crashes as soon as i open footprints so can't help you :( |
| 16:37.02 | sherard | I am looking for some help with the 3ds Max Asset if anyone can help with it |
| 16:37.30 | `3ICE | how about asking the real question and seeing if anyone likes it enough to answer |
| 16:37.36 | `3ICE | @sherard |
| 16:37.56 | `3ICE | unless it is secret ofc :) |
| 16:38.04 | AsaPhelps | well I don't understand creep source behaviors |
| 16:38.12 | AsaPhelps | they don't have an effect or anything |
| 16:38.16 | AsaPhelps | just footprints and periods |
| 16:38.37 | AsaPhelps | hmmm |
| 16:38.41 | AsaPhelps | this says the max size is 4x4 |
| 16:38.47 | AsaPhelps | maybe its 4x4 by 4x4 |
| 16:38.50 | AsaPhelps | which is 16x16 |
| 16:38.52 | `3ICE | Behavior NameSourceRaceBehavior Type |
| 16:38.52 | `3ICE | Zerg - Creep Growth MediumLiberty.SC2ModZergCreep Source |
| 16:39.25 | `3ICE | 4x4 by 4x4 is a 3D cube |
| 16:39.51 | Helral | @Ice since when does a cube have 4 dimensions? ;p |
| 16:40.11 | `3ICE | 1st 4x4 defines the base, second 4x4 defines the side |
| 16:40.26 | TheBaron87 | you don't need 4x4 to define the side |
| 16:40.27 | `3ICE | at least that's how we did it in maths class |
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| 16:40.32 | `3ICE | yeah only a height |
| 16:40.33 | TheBaron87 | the first two dimensions are already defined |
| 16:40.40 | TheBaron87 | 4x4x4 |
| 16:40.46 | `3ICE | but you can't argue with my maths teacher! :) |
| 16:40.50 | TheBaron87 | yes I can |
| 16:40.51 | `3ICE | he died :( |
| 16:40.56 | Helral | @Ice: I only know cubes with 3 dimensions ;p |
| 16:40.58 | `3ICE | can't argue with dead people |
| 16:41.07 | `3ICE | well guess what? it is time to invent 4D :) |
| 16:41.10 | TheBaron87 | sure I can, I can argue with anyone lol |
| 16:41.19 | Helral | well I can create a 4d cube. |
| 16:41.24 | redmarine | Hm, does anyone know why the Localizer freezes when you click on Localize? |
| 16:41.33 | `3ICE | do it manually then |
| 16:41.37 | Helral | example: 4cmx4cmx4cmx4min |
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| 16:42.17 | AsaPhelps | but |
| 16:42.19 | AsaPhelps | I deleted |
| 16:42.27 | AsaPhelps | the footprint grown |
| 16:42.37 | AsaPhelps | but when I spawn it now it doesn't generate anycreep |
| 16:42.42 | AsaPhelps | shouldn't it generate the base at least? |
| 16:43.04 | `3ICE | no, if you delete a footprint that generates creep then the creep will not be generated... |
| 16:43.50 | `3ICE | footprint start probably only lasts 0.01 sec and that's not enough time for our footprint to get working |
| 16:44.10 | `3ICE | lol nvm read the tooltip >.> |
| 16:44.20 | `3ICE | when the unit is preplaced in the editor |
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| 16:44.44 | AsaPhelps | well I changed it from the tumor |
| 16:44.47 | AsaPhelps | and made a queen |
| 16:44.53 | AsaPhelps | then she pooped it out |
| 16:44.58 | `3ICE | just check the footprint again. |
| 16:45.06 | Alpha_vst | howdy |
| 16:45.58 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 16:46.58 | Alpha_vst | I LOVE DEFINITIONS :D |
| 16:47.01 | peterpants | can you not compare two text variables |
| 16:47.08 | Azu | Alpha_vst hows the map commin along? :) |
| 16:47.10 | `3ICE | peterpants you can |
| 16:47.14 | Alpha_vst | pretty good |
| 16:47.29 | Alpha_vst | i almost have zombies lol |
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| 16:47.56 | Alpha_vst | I had to add in control points first |
| 16:47.57 | Azu | nice :) |
| 16:48.00 | Alpha_vst | what im doingnow |
| 16:48.04 | peterpants | 3ICE how is it done |
| 16:48.15 | `3ICE | if then else |
| 16:48.18 | Alpha_vst | and the mini map changes so you can tell |
| 16:48.19 | `3ICE | double click on value1 |
| 16:48.20 | AsaPhelps | hmmm |
| 16:48.21 | Alpha_vst | and such |
| 16:48.21 | `3ICE | select variable |
| 16:48.26 | AsaPhelps | I changed the footprint from 16x16 |
| 16:48.28 | AsaPhelps | to 5x5 |
| 16:48.30 | `3ICE | select your variable |
| 16:48.42 | AsaPhelps | but it still doesn't spawn creep :/ |
| 16:48.49 | Azu | :< |
| 16:49.01 | `3ICE | AsaPhelps revert to the original idea that worked and go from there |
| 16:49.07 | Helral | @Asa: Isn't there a creep footprint? |
| 16:49.08 | peterpants | it doesnt let me select a text variable only strings |
| 16:49.12 | `3ICE | yeah there is |
| 16:49.26 | `3ICE | oh wow text |
| 16:49.29 | `3ICE | gotta check that |
| 16:49.50 | peterpants | ya |
| 16:50.04 | peterpants | and you cant seem to convert text > string only string > text |
| 16:50.49 | peterpants | oh well |
| 16:51.05 | Alpha_vst | where are you trying to select it? |
| 16:51.10 | AsaPhelps | I reverted it but I think I broke it somehow |
| 16:51.42 | RodOfNOD | on this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39vhR12Eh_k&feature=player_embedded there is a minimap top right corner is this standard GE stuff or did they take a photo of the screen and then use their own minimap generator? |
| 16:52.33 | Helral | they prolly did some adjusting to the actual minimap to relocate it. (don't know how) |
| 16:52.52 | RodOfNOD | i dont see anything in the specs to do so thats why im asking |
| 16:53.06 | RodOfNOD | what i do see possible is making yr own ss of the map and then simulating it |
| 16:53.09 | Helral | prolly some xml scripting orso and their own gui setup. |
| 16:53.27 | AsaPhelps | hmm wth did I do to break this |
| 16:53.39 | Helral | @Asa what footprint you using? |
| 16:53.48 | Helral | @Asa: or did something else break? |
| 16:54.48 | `3ICE | peterpants try this: |
| 16:54.48 | `3ICE | Compare texts with custom script |
| 16:54.48 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.48 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.48 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.48 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.49 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.25 | `3ICE | i got it to compile successfully, haven't tested it ingame though as I can't run sc2 still :( |
| 16:55.26 | AsaPhelps | the tumor only spawns a 2x2 or something of creep |
| 16:56.04 | Helral | @Asa you want it to spawn creep area? |
| 16:56.50 | Alpha_vst | yeah asa you have your inital and your spreed size |
| 16:56.58 | AsaPhelps | okay i deleted all my thing |
| 16:56.58 | Alpha_vst | spread |
| 16:57.03 | AsaPhelps | All I want to do is make the spread smaller |
| 16:57.53 | AsaPhelps | So I go to the behavior then to the footprint Footprint NameSourceFootprint Group |
| 16:57.53 | AsaPhelps | Footprint 4x4 (Creep Source Grown)Liberty.SC2Mod(None) |
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| 16:58.27 | AsaPhelps | whats the difference between layers and shape? |
| 16:58.32 | warbio | How do I add custom buildings to a probe so it can build them? |
| 16:58.51 | `3ICE | AsaPhelps doubleclicking either will bring up the same interface |
| 16:58.56 | `3ICE | changing either will change both |
| 16:59.18 | `3ICE | i'd file it away as yet another inconsistency/bug in the editor |
| 16:59.35 | `3ICE | warbio edit the build ability of the probe |
| 16:59.46 | `3ICE | and the command card of the probe |
| 17:00.01 | warbio | yeah I found it, thanks |
| 17:00.06 | `3ICE | np np |
| 17:00.40 | AsaPhelps | hmmm |
| 17:00.42 | Shmack | anyone know of a tutoriul on how to go in side a building? |
| 17:00.46 | AsaPhelps | I change it from 20x10 |
| 17:00.50 | AsaPhelps | 20x20 to 10x10 |
| 17:00.58 | AsaPhelps | I get the initial birth of like 1 creep unit |
| 17:01.18 | AsaPhelps | for some reason changing the size makes the shape empty |
| 17:02.28 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 17:02.45 | `3ICE | you have to click on the shape a couple times :) |
| 17:02.59 | `3ICE | fill it w/ purple/brown or whatever |
| 17:03.21 | Vophsix | okay can anyone work out how to get the colossus to fire in a larger arc? been trying a while and nothing seems to affect it |
| 17:03.23 | AsaPhelps | 40x40 works |
| 17:03.33 | AsaPhelps | but not 10x10 |
| 17:03.35 | AsaPhelps | or 5x5 |
| 17:03.38 | `3ICE | lol that sounds broken |
| 17:03.41 | AsaPhelps | also my editor crashed |
| 17:03.43 | AsaPhelps | awesome |
| 17:03.52 | peterpants | 3ICE i tried it but it seems like it always returns false |
| 17:04.02 | `3ICE | aww :( |
| 17:04.05 | peterpants | but it does compile |
| 17:04.07 | `3ICE | well, text is a complex type |
| 17:04.18 | `3ICE | idk why though |
| 17:04.30 | `3ICE | it sounds more like a string with a bunch of <c val=""> stuff in it |
| 17:04.33 | Helral | you can compare String(Text var) == String(Text var 2) ;p |
| 17:04.43 | `3ICE | no comparison of text2string |
| 17:04.50 | `3ICE | he already tried to find that |
| 17:04.53 | Helral | ow... |
| 17:04.55 | peterpants | ya, i couldn't find it |
| 17:04.58 | peterpants | ;( |
| 17:05.15 | `3ICE | guess you will have to store the strings and texts in an array |
| 17:05.21 | peterpants | ya |
| 17:05.22 | `3ICE | and compare the array indexes |
| 17:05.24 | `3ICE | ouch |
| 17:05.34 | peterpants | or just store the text as strings with tags |
| 17:05.36 | `3ICE | workaround for a workaround in a workaround |
| 17:05.36 | peterpants | then convert em to text |
| 17:05.37 | peterpants | maybe |
| 17:05.39 | `3ICE | soo silly :D |
| 17:05.43 | peterpants | but it dont know if that'd work |
| 17:05.53 | AsaPhelps | Regular:7.75:-1,-6;6,-6;-6,-1;-1,-1;-6,6;6,6:0,3,0;1,0,0;2,4,0;3,2,0;4,5,0;5,1,0 |
| 17:05.54 | peterpants | i'm sure they'll make a fix for it sooner or later |
| 17:06.02 | AsaPhelps | someone translate that for me into something logical |
| 17:06.12 | `3ICE | yeah we are expecting a lot of actions still missing |
| 17:06.35 | peterpants | what you're looking at there is a series of integiers some seperated by commas and others seperated by ; they are apparently regular |
| 17:06.46 | `3ICE | lmao |
| 17:07.06 | peterpants | where did you get it asaphelps |
| 17:07.23 | AsaPhelps | raw data for the shape of a footprint |
| 17:07.37 | Vophsix | don't forget a colon in the middle :< |
| 17:08.43 | `3ICE | Regular: |
| 17:08.44 | `3ICE | 7.75 |
| 17:08.44 | `3ICE | : |
| 17:08.44 | `3ICE | -1,-6; 6,-6; -6,-1; -1,-1; -6, 6; 6, 6 |
| 17:08.44 | `3ICE | : |
| 17:08.44 | `3ICE | 0,3,0; 1,0,0; 2,4,0; 3,2,0; 4,5,0; 5,1,0 |
| 17:08.49 | `3ICE | there, easier to see the structure |
| 17:08.55 | `3ICE | you are looking at three fields |
| 17:09.08 | `3ICE | first one is a real |
| 17:09.18 | `3ICE | second one is 6 int pairs |
| 17:09.25 | `3ICE | third one is 6 int triplets |
| 17:09.57 | AsaPhelps | go on professor |
| 17:10.06 | `3ICE | probably related to coordinates |
| 17:10.13 | AsaPhelps | i'm going to randomly change numbers |
| 17:10.14 | `3ICE | 7.75 radius |
| 17:10.16 | AsaPhelps | see what happens |
| 17:10.21 | AsaPhelps | oh good point |
| 17:10.23 | `3ICE | lol why dont you jsut doubleclick |
| 17:10.32 | `3ICE | and edit it with the interface that blizz provided |
| 17:11.14 | AsaPhelps | where do you change the radius in the interface |
| 17:11.22 | AsaPhelps | all i see is like x by y |
| 17:11.23 | AsaPhelps | and pathing |
| 17:11.25 | `3ICE | that one was a guess |
| 17:11.26 | AsaPhelps | and brush shape |
| 17:11.33 | `3ICE | i have no idea what 7.75 stands for |
| 17:13.19 | AsaPhelps | changing that to 5.5 didn't appear to do anything |
| 17:13.53 | `3ICE | maybe the speed at which it spreads? |
| 17:13.57 | `3ICE | test ingame |
| 17:14.14 | `3ICE | btw we are looking at a footprint here so it might be related to pathing |
| 17:14.23 | `3ICE | not jsut creep generation |
| 17:16.09 | AsaPhelps | What about |
| 17:16.12 | AsaPhelps | (-10,-10,10,10|-10,-10,10,10):((x|o)|(x|o)):(((0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0)|(0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0))|((1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0)|(0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0))):(((0|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0)|(0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0))|((0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0)|(0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0))):((........oooo........|......oooooooo......|....oooooooooooo....|...oooooooooooooo...|..oooooooooooooooo..|..oooooooooooooooo..|.oooooooooooooooooo.|.oooooooooooooooooo.|oooooooooooooooooooo|ooooooooooooooooooo |
| 17:16.18 | AsaPhelps | What the hell does that mean |
| 17:16.23 | AsaPhelps | Thats the layer D: |
| 17:16.24 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/missile-command/. Missile Command. asaphelps (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 17:16.28 | `3ICE | clearly they are flags |
| 17:16.32 | AsaPhelps | oh |
| 17:16.35 | AsaPhelps | I see it now.. |
| 17:16.36 | `3ICE | 1=flag is on, 0=flag is off |
| 17:16.48 | AsaPhelps | what about the cheerios? |
| 17:17.06 | `3ICE | why the hell do you look at raw data when you'v egot a nice and easy to use GUI-.- |
| 17:17.54 | `3ICE | o means pathing |
| 17:17.57 | `3ICE | . means no pathing |
| 17:18.08 | AsaPhelps | Hmm I think I figured it out |
| 17:18.12 | `3ICE | change some of those, see what happens :) |
| 17:18.57 | Helral | I prefer table view ;p |
| 17:19.25 | `3ICE | AsaPhelps likes the raw view :) |
| 17:20.07 | AsaPhelps | okay so |
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| 17:20.15 | AsaPhelps | If I change all the 10s to 5s |
| 17:20.18 | AsaPhelps | then make it 5x5 |
| 17:20.20 | AsaPhelps | it works |
| 17:20.25 | AsaPhelps | but if I change it to 5s |
| 17:20.30 | `3ICE | and corrupts the data |
| 17:20.30 | AsaPhelps | then 7x7 or greater than 5 |
| 17:20.31 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 17:20.34 | AsaPhelps | its offcenter |
| 17:20.40 | `3ICE | you forgot to remove a lot of 000000000000000s and ooooooooooooos |
| 17:20.50 | AsaPhelps | so its something to do with centering |
| 17:22.12 | AsaPhelps | anyway |
| 17:22.29 | AsaPhelps | I guess if I can make it a 5x5 square thats good enough for me |
| 17:23.19 | AsaPhelps | hmmm |
| 17:23.32 | AsaPhelps | now if I can figure out how to make the behavior of creep spawning a duration i'll be all set |
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| 17:24.04 | AsaPhelps | right cool? |
| 17:24.54 | AsaPhelps | oh you can just click on the grid to edit it |
| 17:24.55 | `3ICE | say right of he kills you |
| 17:24.57 | AsaPhelps | that makes this easier |
| 17:25.05 | `3ICE | AsaPhelps i said that ages ago... |
| 17:25.14 | AsaPhelps | yeah probably |
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| 17:25.23 | Ousnius | hi |
| 17:25.31 | Ousnius | erm I've got a problem with publishing my map -.- |
| 17:25.46 | Helral | @Ousnius what is it? |
| 17:26.36 | Ousnius | it says: "The published name "Shrink TD Alpha [esMX]" is not available" |
| 17:26.43 | Ousnius | funny thing is my map isn't made with exMX editor haha |
| 17:27.02 | Ousnius | with the other versions it worked |
| 17:27.09 | Helral | I think that means that your map is already published. |
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| 17:27.28 | Ousnius | yeah by myself ;D it says old version 1.0 new version 1.1 |
| 17:27.30 | Ousnius | so it should work |
| 17:28.19 | Ousnius | and I didn't even make the map with exMX editor but there is still this [esMX] |
| 17:28.24 | Helral | btw I think that [esMX] = Spanish(Mexico) language. |
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| 17:29.41 | `3ICE | Ousnius a mexican stole your map and published it |
| 17:30.01 | Ousnius | but that couldn't be O.O |
| 17:30.05 | Ousnius | cause I did not delete it |
| 17:30.34 | Ousnius | and when I rename my map |
| 17:30.39 | Ousnius | it still says "blabla" |
| 17:31.00 | Shmack | How do you move a Camra to a point |
| 17:31.01 | Helral | @Ousnius the change name function in the Publish Document doesn't work. |
| 17:31.09 | MavercK | anyone know how to show a buildings attack range while in placing it? |
| 17:31.31 | MavercK | theres guides on the forums but they only work for showing range when the tower is completed. not while placement |
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| 17:32.58 | Ousnius | that's... omg! |
| 17:34.25 | AsaPhelps | where is that guide maverick? |
| 17:35.33 | MavercK | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/544-showing-projected-attack-range/ |
| 17:35.55 | heysparky | Asa, creep spawning is a behavior that you can (if you want to use triggers) apply and remove |
| 17:36.04 | heysparky | it's SUPER easy |
| 17:36.40 | heysparky | might be worth pushing into triggers |
| 17:37.42 | Ousnius | can I |
| 17:37.50 | Lyrrad | Sparky - Noo, don't go to the darkside |
| 17:37.50 | Ousnius | uplaod locked maps to b.net and paly them? |
| 17:37.51 | AsaPhelps | I'll just make it permanent |
| 17:37.52 | Ousnius | or is it buggy? |
| 17:37.53 | AsaPhelps | that'll teach them |
| 17:38.04 | AsaPhelps | I just find it weird creep source behaviors don't have a duration |
| 17:38.05 | heysparky | lol, if I want to get stuff done, I have to |
| 17:38.09 | MavercK | i think you can play them. you just can't make them public Ousnius |
| 17:38.12 | heysparky | data is a little too mysterious for me |
| 17:38.25 | Ousnius | :/ damn xD |
| 17:38.50 | Ousnius | wtf?! |
| 17:39.02 | Ousnius | someone published my map as "Shrink TD" |
| 17:39.19 | Ousnius | if I wanna upload it then it says version 0.2 but I didnt even upload 0.1 |
| 17:39.36 | Lyrrad | published as in the stole your map and published it, or had the same idea and published it? |
| 17:39.42 | warbio | Is it possible to make a unit unable to attack something that isn't inside a region? |
| 17:39.48 | heysparky | Shmack - Action > Pan Camera To Point |
| 17:40.00 | Ousnius | stole |
| 17:40.02 | Ousnius | my map |
| 17:40.05 | Ousnius | I dunno xD |
| 17:40.20 | Ousnius | didnt see it on b.net |
| 17:40.43 | Ousnius | I'll jsut upload it as "Shrink TD [Alpha]" now XD |
| 17:42.54 | Dustin | Time to make Baneling pool! |
| 17:42.58 | AsaPhelps | hey lyrrad, on my map do you think 60s on the shield respawn is too fast? |
| 17:46.09 | RodOfNOD | what is a baneling pool? |
| 17:46.19 | Dustin | Pool with Banelings |
| 17:46.24 | RodOfNOD | a model? |
| 17:46.35 | RodOfNOD | a new model? |
| 17:46.42 | RodOfNOD | or just playing wiuth the editor |
| 17:47.04 | Dustin | the Game pool |
| 17:47.08 | Dustin | With banelings as balls :P |
| 17:47.13 | Ousnius | lol |
| 17:47.23 | RodOfNOD | i am also working on a baneling map hehe |
| 17:47.26 | RodOfNOD | but not with pools |
| 17:47.42 | RodOfNOD | mine are in a sauna |
| 17:47.43 | RodOfNOD | :P |
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| 17:48.47 | Skizot | lols |
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| 17:51.20 | RodOfNOD | dialogs are so damn cool |
| 17:54.15 | AsaPhelps | You guys just gave me an idea to make a pool table game |
| 17:54.23 | AsaPhelps | but I probably suck too much to do it |
| 17:54.57 | RodOfNOD | gonna have to use physics :> |
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| 17:58.11 | Reactorex | Dustin, I'd play :P |
| 17:58.28 | Reactorex | I'd test, too xP |
| 17:58.33 | Dustin | woot hehe |
| 17:58.40 | Dustin | Making the pool table atm :D |
| 17:58.42 | knicke | how do I choose or add a model to a unit? |
| 17:58.45 | Dustin | So it's got a wasys to go |
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| 17:59.28 | Liquidor | Good evening! |
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| 18:00.29 | Ousnius | does somebody with EU client wanna test my new version of Shrink TD on b.net? |
| 18:02.52 | warbio | How do I give a unit a new model? |
| 18:04.19 | Reactorex | warbio: go to Data Editor -> Actors |
| 18:04.36 | Reactorex | Change the unitName token for the actor to set it to hte unit you want it to attach to. |
| 18:04.56 | Reactorex | An actor is an assortment of models, essentially, if I understand it right. |
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| 18:05.37 | redmarine | Could someone explain to me why Localizer keeps freezing? |
| 18:06.07 | warbio | Reactorex: I will check it out, thanks |
| 18:07.47 | Reactorex | Liquidor, it's afternoon for me. XD By the way, do you still have the teams problem? |
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| 18:09.17 | Furyhunter | You know what's really fascinating about this |
| 18:09.26 | Furyhunter | You can get on custom games one day |
| 18:09.29 | Furyhunter | See one list of popular games |
| 18:09.35 | Furyhunter | Get on the next and a completely different set of maps are popular. |
| 18:09.47 | Reactorex | It's constantly evolving and changing depending on who checks it on what day. |
| 18:09.52 | Reactorex | And the mood of the players. |
| 18:10.07 | Furyhunter | yeah |
| 18:10.08 | redmarine | But still, there are a couple of maps that dominate |
| 18:10.09 | AsaPhelps | My map is popular for about 30 minutes |
| 18:10.14 | Reactorex | And considering that it's US region... |
| 18:10.16 | Reactorex | When night comes... |
| 18:10.20 | Furyhunter | battlecraft is mindnumbingly popular for whatever reason |
| 18:10.24 | Reactorex | Not as many maps are any longer played. |
| 18:10.27 | Reactorex | So it essentially resets daily. |
| 18:10.29 | AsaPhelps | It takes 2 minutes fury |
| 18:10.35 | Reactorex | Which is actually sort of interesting. |
| 18:10.41 | AsaPhelps | So if someone likes it thats like 50 players an hour |
| 18:10.47 | Furyhunter | Yeah, that needs to be fixed |
| 18:10.49 | Reactorex | Furyhunter: I despise BattleCraft. :( |
| 18:10.58 | Reactorex | My game lasted for a freaking hour and a half. |
| 18:11.04 | Reactorex | I've had enough of it to last me a month. |
| 18:11.08 | AsaPhelps | How did you make battlecraft last an hour? |
| 18:11.19 | Reactorex | THE GUY JUST WOULD DAMN DIE! D:::: |
| 18:11.21 | Furyhunter | Because Marine Arena games last for anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour |
| 18:11.29 | Furyhunter | and support 8 players |
| 18:11.37 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r89 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (9 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 18:11.38 | Repo | started on m3 rendering |
| 18:11.39 | Repo | some checks in terrain code |
| 18:11.40 | Repo | more rewriting to use mpqhandler |
| 18:11.41 | Repo | uses shitty regex for functions in galaxy but it works |
| 18:11.58 | Reactorex | Repo said shitty. |
| 18:11.58 | Reactorex | lawl. |
| 18:12.01 | AsaPhelps | Did you use armageddon or whatever |
| 18:12.05 | nicoli_s | that was me :P |
| 18:12.06 | Reactorex | Yep! |
| 18:12.09 | Reactorex | I did. :P |
| 18:12.15 | Reactorex | To attack them. |
| 18:12.18 | Reactorex | And defend. |
| 18:12.20 | AsaPhelps | most games people 1) Spam Ultras |
| 18:12.23 | AsaPhelps | 2) Spam void rays |
| 18:12.24 | nicoli_s | im ashamed of my regex actually |
| 18:12.30 | AsaPhelps | 3) Spam phoenixes |
| 18:12.31 | Reactorex | I got both spams. |
| 18:12.34 | Reactorex | AND WE NEVER DIED. |
| 18:12.37 | Reactorex | Nor would he. |
| 18:12.40 | AsaPhelps | Whats the ultra counter |
| 18:12.42 | AsaPhelps | Archons? |
| 18:12.44 | Reactorex | He just gave up after the hour and a half. |
| 18:12.49 | AsaPhelps | Or any air I guess |
| 18:12.59 | Reactorex | Archons = anti-muta. |
| 18:13.02 | Reactorex | For certain. |
| 18:13.12 | AsaPhelps | If someone does like 100 damage to Psi |
| 18:13.14 | Reactorex | Anti-any clomped up air. |
| 18:13.15 | AsaPhelps | And 105 to bio |
| 18:13.23 | AsaPhelps | Does it do 105 to ghosts? |
| 18:13.26 | AsaPhelps | Or 205 |
| 18:13.35 | Reactorex | I don't understand that, yet. |
| 18:13.49 | Reactorex | How it works. |
| 18:13.55 | AsaPhelps | Hmm |
| 18:14.02 | AsaPhelps | I need an idea for a biological attack |
| 18:14.13 | AsaPhelps | Something like an acid cloud but something I can actually figure out how to make |
| 18:14.25 | Dustin | there should be a toggle on the Data editor to show all link fields |
| 18:14.46 | Deuce | mustard gas |
| 18:14.50 | Deuce | spreads over half the map |
| 18:14.53 | Deuce | murders everything |
| 18:15.36 | Deuce | viral infection! |
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| 18:15.46 | Deuce | has a chance to spread to adjacent units |
| 18:15.55 | Deuce | eventually kills infected units |
| 18:17.31 | Deuce | has no outward signs so you can't tell until they start losing health or something |
| 18:17.32 | AsaPhelps | hmmmm |
| 18:17.34 | AsaPhelps | the search flag |
| 18:17.36 | AsaPhelps | Call for help |
| 18:17.39 | AsaPhelps | What does that do D: |
| 18:18.21 | Deuce | random guess: when attacked, nearby friendly units will come to the fight |
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| 18:19.31 | sherard | Hey I have a question and I am just brain storming the Idea |
| 18:20.03 | sherard | First of all has anyone played the old school pc game Sentinal Worlds? |
| 18:20.57 | AsaPhelps | so apparently |
| 18:21.07 | AsaPhelps | "Not on radar" really means "On radar" |
| 18:21.55 | Liquidor | Reactorex: Depends where you are :) |
| 18:22.01 | Liquidor | Reactorex: Yes, I fixed the team issue |
| 18:22.45 | Liquidor | Controllers are bad ! Don't use them or you'll get a corrupt header. Oh and don't use computer slots in your player settings, just set them to computer, change your settings/names for them and set them back to none or they'll end up as user slots in the lobby |
| 18:23.18 | Sixen | msg purl seen wacko |
| 18:23.32 | Sixen | uhm. |
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| 18:25.21 | Leech | so who here has a ton of experience with the galaxy editor atm? |
| 18:25.57 | sherard | Has anyone ever played the PC Game Sentinel Worlds? |
| 18:26.23 | RickA | Leech, define a ton |
| 18:26.49 | AsaPhelps | 2000 hours |
| 18:26.50 | `3ICE | I do. |
| 18:27.44 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 18:27.55 | AsaPhelps | I can't figure out how to get my missile to appear on the minimap |
| 18:28.27 | `3ICE | use a unit |
| 18:28.33 | `3ICE | missiles don't appear on minimap |
| 18:28.45 | AsaPhelps | I switched it from a projectile to a unit |
| 18:28.52 | AsaPhelps | still no go |
| 18:29.04 | AsaPhelps | but is it because its flagged a missile? |
| 18:29.18 | Leech | like as in you know a good amount of the editor |
| 18:29.19 | `3ICE | prolly yes |
| 18:29.25 | Leech | if i asked you a question you would be able to answer it most likely |
| 18:29.42 | `3ICE | Leech who cares, just ask the question and someone will answer. |
| 18:30.10 | AsaPhelps | you're asking more questions trying to get someone to answer your question |
| 18:30.16 | Leech | lol ok |
| 18:30.23 | Leech | so im pretty newby with this stuff |
| 18:30.32 | Leech | but i am currently trying to make a king of the hill kind of map |
| 18:30.35 | `3ICE | so read/watch some tutorials |
| 18:30.40 | Leech | more or less with rpg elements |
| 18:31.27 | Leech | so my biggest problem is creating/editing the heros |
| 18:31.32 | Leech | where can i found how to do something like that? |
| 18:31.38 | `3ICE | on google |
| 18:31.42 | `3ICE | "sc2 hero tutorial" |
| 18:31.51 | Deuce | there are tutorials for hero creation on sc2mapster |
| 18:31.56 | Leech | o |
| 18:31.57 | Leech | >< |
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| 18:35.06 | Reactorex | Liquidor, not all controllers do taht. |
| 18:35.09 | Reactorex | that* |
| 18:35.24 | Reactorex | In fact, I am able to successfully use Computer, Closed, and Open in Controllers. |
| 18:35.33 | Reactorex | User still gives me the "Header is corrupt" error. |
| 18:35.51 | Reactorex | I did datamining on what will corrupt a header or give default values are not valid. |
| 18:38.58 | Leech | whats the max number of players you can have in 1 game? |
| 18:39.18 | depthsofchaos | anyone found an efficient way to detect if someone leaves? |
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| 18:39.24 | depthsofchaos | 12 |
| 18:39.28 | depthsofchaos | as far as i know |
| 18:39.36 | Leech | sweet thx |
| 18:39.37 | Deuce | editor shows 16 slots |
| 18:39.44 | depthsofchaos | but 12 is the max |
| 18:39.45 | Leech | oh 16? |
| 18:39.48 | Leech | oh |
| 18:39.52 | Deuce | but i haven't tried to use all of them for humans |
| 18:39.58 | Vophsix | 1 neutral passive/1 neutral hostile and 14 players |
| 18:40.19 | depthsofchaos | in game variables the max is 12 |
| 18:40.27 | depthsofchaos | so even if you set it as user |
| 18:40.29 | depthsofchaos | it wont work |
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| 18:41.40 | Deuce | i see |
| 18:42.00 | Deuce | well, only 1-10 are human in the map i'm working on |
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| 18:44.21 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 18:44.30 | TheLaughingMan | Hmm |
| 18:44.42 | Reactorex | depths, not true. |
| 18:44.46 | Reactorex | 12 on a team, yes. |
| 18:44.53 | Reactorex | But not 12 in the game. |
| 18:45.15 | Reactorex | 16 is max if you can manage to null out neutral and hostile and turn them into players. |
| 18:45.24 | Reactorex | 15 if you can only change one of the two. |
| 18:45.28 | Reactorex | 14 if you can't manage either. |
| 18:45.59 | Deuce | doesnt the player properties list let you just change them? |
| 18:46.03 | Reactorex | You can, in theory, set up an 8v8. |
| 18:46.03 | AsaPhelps | I'm trying to change the speed of my missile |
| 18:46.12 | AsaPhelps | So I go to its mover, and changed max speed to 5 or whatever |
| 18:46.17 | Reactorex | Sort of, Deuce. |
| 18:46.18 | AsaPhelps | And even to like 500 |
| 18:46.21 | AsaPhelps | But its still at the same speed |
| 18:46.26 | Reactorex | But the Player Properties is very glitch-prone. |
| 18:46.34 | `3ICE | dude mover affects every missile poeriod |
| 18:46.37 | `3ICE | grats on breaking the game |
| 18:46.39 | Reactorex | And generally, if your map is custom/UMS, you need to set up the same stuff in Game Variants, any ways. |
| 18:47.04 | `3ICE | and max speed is just the limit of speed, not the actual speed |
| 18:47.35 | AsaPhelps | I made a copy of it |
| 18:47.38 | AsaPhelps | Dudeee |
| 18:47.49 | `3ICE | wow, but why? |
| 18:47.55 | `3ICE | just change the missile speed |
| 18:48.44 | AsaPhelps | I changed the speed in the mover |
| 18:48.48 | AsaPhelps | but it doesn't seem to be working |
| 18:49.13 | `3ICE | like i told you, movers are not to be changed |
| 18:50.20 | AsaPhelps | okay I figured it out |
| 18:50.26 | AsaPhelps | apparently it was the nuke copy copy |
| 18:50.28 | AsaPhelps | not the nuke copy |
| 18:50.33 | AsaPhelps | because I duplicated like 30 things |
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| 18:57.58 | AsaPhelps | Anyway want to help me test my map? |
| 18:59.00 | AsaPhelps | Anyone* |
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| 18:59.42 | RickA | Is it still missle command? |
| 19:00.46 | largelyrandom | Can I compare two objects in the data editor side by side? |
| 19:01.01 | `3ICE | yes |
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| 19:01.25 | largelyrandom | Ctrl |
| 19:01.29 | largelyrandom | Geez, that was hidden |
| 19:01.37 | largelyrandom | Cheers |
| 19:01.50 | `3ICE | np np |
| 19:02.30 | TheLaughingMan | What othere basic types are there besides |
| 19:03.04 | TheLaughingMan | Booleans, Integers, Reals, and Strings |
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| 19:07.13 | largelyrandom | There a way to make a unit have a new parent item? |
| 19:07.32 | largelyrandom | "Everything I havent set, you get from B instead of A |
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| 19:17.48 | AsaPhelps | Anyone want to help me test my map? |
| 19:18.39 | Alpha_vst | anyone know anything about morphing? when i do it with the data editor my actor stays that i morphed from... |
| 19:18.43 | Alpha_vst | idono how to remove it |
| 19:19.10 | `3ICE | copy from corrupter --> brood lord |
| 19:19.12 | TheLaughingMan | Graw! |
| 19:19.18 | `3ICE | larva --> egg --> drone |
| 19:19.19 | TheLaughingMan | Need help finding Syntax error |
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| 19:20.04 | `3ICE | you are not going to get it unless you post |
| 19:20.08 | AsaPhelps | Oh toutou |
| 19:20.18 | TheLaughingMan | actually I found it |
| 19:22.07 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/orpg-starcraft-universe/. [ORPG] Starcraft Universe. Mille25 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 19:22.12 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sentry-micro-arena/. Sentry Micro Arena. DrPainZ (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 19:24.23 | Cloudwolf | question does any one else get the glitch where the options menu that says score screen upon defeat doesn't actualy take you to the score screen? |
| 19:25.28 | Ousnius | new version of my map on mapster and EU b.net if anyone is interested ;) |
| 19:25.50 | AsaPhelps | wow this touhou map is impossible to play on battle.net |
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| 19:28.11 | Vophsix | liking the ORPG repo! |
| 19:28.22 | `3ICE | repo is a bot |
| 19:28.23 | AsaPhelps | yes cloud |
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| 19:28.47 | Vophsix | shame |
| 19:33.00 | Fatal510 | RAWR! |
| 19:34.01 | Shmack | how would i set a fi then eals command to check a players level? |
| 19:34.28 | Reactorex | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25172118756 - come on, the thread needs your support. |
| 19:34.33 | TheLaughingMan | Woot |
| 19:34.37 | `3ICE | players don't have levels. |
| 19:34.50 | TheLaughingMan | It works! |
| 19:35.01 | Reactorex | Any map maker who agrees on the topic of popularity being screwed up and can view the US forums, help the topic, please. :) |
| 19:35.07 | Shmack | like " if play clicks " ability" / Player lv 3 then learn ability |
| 19:35.29 | Shmack | player* |
| 19:36.02 | TheLaughingMan | I am so smarts |
| 19:36.11 | Shmack | if you so smarts then help me! |
| 19:36.12 | Shmack | lol |
| 19:36.24 | TheLaughingMan | Players don't have levels though |
| 19:36.32 | Shmack | hero |
| 19:36.34 | `3ICE | Shmack asking a question properly is half the solution. |
| 19:36.45 | Shmack | player hero unit w/e |
| 19:36.48 | Alpha_vst | WEEEE MY EDITOR CRASHED AND I DIDNT SAVE MY UNITS :D |
| 19:37.06 | Azu | ooh |
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| 19:37.13 | Azu | an released orpg for sc2? :O |
| 19:37.22 | Azu | oh |
| 19:37.24 | Azu | only ui :< |
| 19:37.57 | Shmack | ... |
| 19:38.34 | onetwo | what the reactorex, i thought we already had a post |
| 19:39.28 | onetwo | oh, bug report |
| 19:40.11 | onetwo | ill post when it falls further |
| 19:40.18 | onetwo | afk |
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| 19:48.00 | largelyrandom | Is there a clever way to avoid ending up with #Name# Copy 2 Copy 2 Copy ? |
| 19:48.20 | `3ICE | dont copy stuff |
| 19:48.25 | largelyrandom | Right |
| 19:48.40 | Cloudwolf | the guy who made spinecrawler D is he int his irc ever? |
| 19:48.57 | `3ICE | oh... that guy |
| 19:49.22 | largelyrandom | There a guide that shows the approved method of creating new units? |
| 19:49.39 | `3ICE | right click --> add object |
| 19:49.42 | largelyrandom | Leaving this messy a datapack annoys me to no end |
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| 19:50.11 | largelyrandom | makes sense |
| 19:50.22 | `3ICE | what's up with rrowland |
| 19:50.42 | `3ICE | every 15min he gets a ping timeout, rejoins after 4min |
| 19:51.11 | Clord | there is one bomberman map in EU what is done completely wrong |
| 19:51.17 | Clord | it is very zoomed out laggy view |
| 19:51.18 | Clord | XD |
| 19:51.25 | Helral | @lergely: other option: right click -> duplicate, uncheck all (except first level) rename. (rightclick->modify) |
| 19:51.27 | Clord | instead scaling units he scaled view |
| 19:51.33 | Helral | largely* |
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| 19:55.27 | Clord | someone should probably set tutorial to tell that modifying camera view is huge performance hit |
| 19:55.28 | Clord | lol |
| 19:55.56 | largelyrandom | Thank you Helral! |
| 19:56.46 | AsaPhelps | Bomberman bomberman |
| 19:56.52 | AsaPhelps | Destruction across the land |
| 19:57.57 | Clord | normal game I can play with ultra settings expect texture quality one |
| 19:58.00 | Clord | bomberman map |
| 19:58.03 | Clord | it kills my FPS XD |
| 19:58.13 | AsaPhelps | My map lags me after a while for some reason |
| 19:58.27 | Clord | it is laggier than hundred units on screen |
| 19:59.24 | Clord | hehe... onlive stream cloud service for gamers.... they have now partnerships even in europe ^^ |
| 19:59.30 | Clord | ./excited |
| 20:04.17 | MavercK | please please please let onlive fail |
| 20:05.31 | MavercK | when the world decides it's "Okay" to play games with input lag and at horrible resolutions. i dont know what i will do |
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| 20:06.25 | Ignorance | Ignorance is the best. Yes, he is. |
| 20:06.32 | Fatal510 | IGNORANCE |
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| 20:06.40 | AsaPhelps | Try playing touhou with the 125 ms delay |
| 20:06.42 | AsaPhelps | impossible |
| 20:06.43 | Ignorance | What is it? |
| 20:06.55 | Clord | 1080P is not that horrible resolution |
| 20:07.00 | Clord | but yeah |
| 20:07.09 | Fatal510 | never even seen that map on the pop list |
| 20:07.22 | Fatal510 | picklefish! |
| 20:07.31 | Fatal510 | its the whole crew |
| 20:07.39 | Clord | it is double edged sword... for examples streaming for tournament matches around world to make sure nobody can cheat |
| 20:07.41 | Fatal510 | ignorance and picklefish what more do you need |
| 20:07.43 | Clord | might be useful |
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| 20:07.56 | Andernerd | Hey, I'm trying to make a map for the AI competition, but I keep getting this error: "Unable to open map." Does anyone know how to solve this? |
| 20:07.58 | MavercK | well |
| 20:08.03 | MavercK | i've seen screenshots from onlive |
| 20:08.07 | MavercK | via a beta tester |
| 20:08.11 | MavercK | it sure didn't look 1080p |
| 20:08.24 | Andernerd | He might not be taking them in 1080p |
| 20:08.26 | MavercK | he did mention he took the pics at the worst possible time |
| 20:08.27 | Fatal510 | i got one of them emails saying they want me to test onlive |
| 20:08.42 | MavercK | but the "worst possible time" was youtube quality |
| 20:08.46 | MavercK | like |
| 20:08.47 | MavercK | 480p |
| 20:09.08 | Clord | 1080p is supported by onlive assuming connection can handle it |
| 20:09.24 | Ignorance | eh? |
| 20:09.41 | Clord | 1080p is supported by onlive assuming connection can handle it |
| 20:09.44 | MavercK | irregardless. theres still input lag and ownership issues and i just dont like it. |
| 20:09.45 | Clord | XD |
| 20:09.57 | MavercK | and it bothers me that people think it's a great idea |
| 20:09.58 | Clord | yeah |
| 20:10.06 | Clord | input lag lol |
| 20:10.12 | Clord | then again lately this thing |
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| 20:10.24 | Clord | to have something mod worthy for game... it takes years to wait that even first one might be released |
| 20:10.33 | Ignorance | Fatal510, that's not true. AsiaPingPong, Bangerz and FearParanoia are all top-tier mod makers. |
| 20:10.42 | Fatal510 | where they at |
| 20:10.44 | Ignorance | Also Notausgang. |
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| 20:10.45 | Ignorance | Not here. |
| 20:10.45 | Ignorance | :( |
| 20:10.46 | Fatal510 | are they up in this party! |
| 20:11.19 | Clord | but then other hand games like starcraft II.... people can make something mod worthy way faster |
| 20:11.20 | Ignorance | Only god tier one is me and probably picklefish :P |
| 20:11.21 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:11.27 | Twiner | 1080p is not a horrible resolution period... |
| 20:11.30 | Fatal510 | ^ |
| 20:11.30 | Twiner | 1920x1080? |
| 20:11.34 | Fatal510 | nope |
| 20:11.42 | Twiner | thats better than my monitor can support |
| 20:11.49 | Ignorance | Picklefish writes good code. |
| 20:11.52 | Ignorance | Very good. |
| 20:11.56 | Fatal510 | yep |
| 20:11.59 | Fatal510 | he made the stats mod |
| 20:12.03 | Fatal510 | most useful thing ever |
| 20:12.13 | picklefish | Sadly, I haven't had any time for sc2 modding :-P |
| 20:12.20 | Ignorance | Lies! Right click deny is the best mod ever. :P |
| 20:12.25 | Clord | I probably go DoWII style hero upgrading... multiplayer side style |
| 20:12.28 | Clord | just add menu for hero |
| 20:12.32 | Clord | and let pick stuff |
| 20:12.37 | Clord | then inventory is just faked |
| 20:12.38 | Clord | XD |
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| 20:12.57 | Fatal510 | but when you do Picklefish im sure its gonna be great! |
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| 20:13.14 | Ignorance | Probably, or at least clever. |
| 20:13.14 | picklefish | fucking real world... |
| 20:13.23 | Ignorance | ahaha |
| 20:13.32 | picklefish | going to store now, laters |
| 20:13.34 | Mischgasm | Anybody know how to find the index of a player? |
| 20:13.36 | Ignorance | mmm |
| 20:13.38 | Mischgasm | I can not find it for my life |
| 20:13.40 | Clord | let's say player clicks "purchare Gauss Rifle MK II".... it adds passive icon to tell hero has that and right buff with it |
| 20:13.43 | Ignorance | I'm thinking of adding win conditions to sentry scramble |
| 20:13.51 | Ignorance | but I'm not sure how to attribute points for FFA. |
| 20:14.03 | Ignorance | like, if the winner should get 2 points and the second place guy 1... |
| 20:14.03 | Andernerd | Hey, I'm trying to make a map for the AI competition, but I keep getting this error: "Unable to open map." Does anyone know how to solve this? |
| 20:14.05 | Fatal510 | do some math with how long they stay alive |
| 20:14.18 | Fatal510 | and award points based on that |
| 20:14.19 | Ignorance | That's not a good idea... |
| 20:14.22 | Ignorance | wiat |
| 20:14.24 | Ignorance | maybe it is |
| 20:14.25 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 20:14.28 | Fatal510 | its a great idea |
| 20:14.31 | Clord | 14th slot bugs |
| 20:14.33 | Mischgasm | Anybody know how to find the index of a player? I swear to god there is no action or condition |
| 20:14.40 | Azu | http://dagobah.biz/flash/STFU_Song.swf |
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| 20:14.52 | Clord | there is |
| 20:14.55 | Ignorance | Mischgasm, you mean in a player group? |
| 20:14.56 | Clord | convert player index |
| 20:15.04 | Fatal510 | Picked player |
| 20:15.05 | Mischgasm | I'll check that |
| 20:15.50 | Ignorance | Clord, I've never seen this. |
| 20:15.53 | Ignorance | What's it called exactly? |
| 20:16.19 | Ignorance | Because I wrote a goddamn function for finding a player's index in a player group and it's clever for it's mostly O(1) behavior. :O |
| 20:16.21 | Clord | it is used for actions what pick every player etc.... if want just spesific index |
| 20:16.32 | Fatal510 | Hillshire! |
| 20:16.36 | Ignorance | oh... |
| 20:16.37 | Ignorance | you mean |
| 20:16.39 | Ignorance | picked player? |
| 20:16.39 | Fatal510 | Hillshire! |
| 20:16.40 | Andernerd | I just checked, my 14th slot is set to "None" |
| 20:16.43 | Fatal510 | farm |
| 20:16.45 | Fatal510 | GO MEAT |
| 20:16.50 | Mischgasm | to find the index of a picked player |
| 20:17.05 | Clord | I open editor |
| 20:17.06 | Ignorance | oh, Mischgasm |
| 20:17.06 | Mischgasm | I'm doing a pick all players and group, and if player index is 1-9 actions |
| 20:17.07 | Ignorance | you can't. |
| 20:17.08 | Ignorance | lol |
| 20:17.14 | Ignorance | There is no function. You have to write one. |
| 20:17.21 | Mischgasm | That's fucking gay |
| 20:17.26 | Ignorance | well |
| 20:17.26 | Mischgasm | lol |
| 20:17.27 | Ignorance | depending |
| 20:17.29 | Ignorance | on what you're doing |
| 20:17.30 | Mischgasm | okay I'll try |
| 20:17.31 | Ignorance | you could also do |
| 20:17.32 | Fatal510 | picked player returns a number? |
| 20:17.33 | Ignorance | pick each integer |
| 20:17.36 | Ignorance | from 1 to |
| 20:17.40 | Ignorance | number of players in player group |
| 20:17.42 | Ignorance | and use that |
| 20:17.48 | Mischgasm | yeah |
| 20:17.48 | Ignorance | but that wont work for multiple player groups |
| 20:17.52 | Ignorance | I'll send you what I did |
| 20:18.17 | Mischgasm | I'll just make a player array |
| 20:18.20 | Clord | "convert player to player group" |
| 20:18.22 | Mischgasm | and refer to the array |
| 20:18.24 | Mischgasm | for players |
| 20:18.32 | Mischgasm | that should work fine |
| 20:18.33 | Clord | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.45 | ekcolnovkol | has anyone toyed around enough with experience levels to figure out how to save heroes and their levels/expcount to a variable, and call the variable in later functions? |
| 20:18.53 | ekcolnovkol | variables are still screwing me over |
| 20:19.08 | ekcolnovkol | weeps |
| 20:19.24 | Helral | anyone here ever succeeded in creating a dialog edit box? |
| 20:19.34 | ekcolnovkol | get in line D; |
| 20:21.09 | probalon | could anyone help me set up a damage taken event? |
| 20:21.53 | probalon | I want to issue orders to computer controlled units when their health reaches a certain point |
| 20:22.03 | Clord | they need to fix that when host goes away for hours killing map popularity |
| 20:22.58 | Clord | that Conton dude has been away for hours |
| 20:23.02 | Clord | blocking match launching |
| 20:23.03 | Clord | XD |
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| 20:25.49 | Helral | @prob: unit takes damage event... conditions: ((unit property (current health)*100)/unit property (max health) ) <= 50 (below 50% health)... do action |
| 20:26.16 | Helral | you want something like that. |
| 20:26.33 | Helral | unit is triggering unit. |
| 20:26.33 | Azu | http://dagobah.biz/flash/Konatas_funny_face.swf bored is win |
| 20:28.36 | Helral | so nobody, who is reading this atm, has created an edit box successfull yet? |
| 20:29.03 | Ousnius | omfg haha |
| 20:29.13 | Ousnius | I love staring contests XD |
| 20:29.18 | Azu | :D |
| 20:30.20 | Helral | http://pastebin.com/Bu7BctrL <-- showing that dialog doesn't show edit box. and positions Label in center :S |
| 20:30.38 | Andernerd | Hey, I'm trying to make a map for the AI competition, but I keep getting this error: "Unable to open map." Does anyone know how to solve this? |
| 20:30.58 | Azu | spam! |
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| 20:31.00 | Andernerd | My 14th slot is unused |
| 20:31.26 | Ousnius | wtf |
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| 20:32.30 | FXAMP | any1 free to help me for a second? i keep getting a trigger error in game -.-" |
| 20:32.44 | Helral | sure FXAMP. what is it? |
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| 20:33.01 | FXAMP | well i have it so that, when your unit dies, it waits ten seconds and then spawns a new one |
| 20:33.19 | AsaPhelps | You need to use a variable and save it to it |
| 20:33.29 | AsaPhelps | Before the wait |
| 20:33.36 | FXAMP | the wait trigger is working and the text is, but when the respawn comes in the create unit trigger gets an error |
| 20:33.58 | AsaPhelps | You need to save it then respawn that variable |
| 20:33.59 | probalon | helral, is it within bounds? |
| 20:34.47 | Helral | @probalon: the dialog creation: http://pastebin.com/Bu7BctrL <-- that's all I do. so the edit box should be there.... |
| 20:35.04 | AsaPhelps | http://pastebin.com/AiAt6PhQ |
| 20:35.12 | AsaPhelps | FXAMP look at that |
| 20:35.16 | probalon | k |
| 20:35.22 | FXAMP | alright thanks :] |
| 20:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | HAY SIXEN |
| 20:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171928761&sid=5000 |
| 20:35.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: ^ |
| 20:36.11 | onetwo | haha i love this Blur commercial on TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ING276z7quA |
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| 20:36.29 | onetwo | but the friends comment is ironic because blur is doing facebook crap too like bnet |
| 20:38.07 | Fatal510 | Alright i need to store a Unit type and a integer together in an array so if a unit die it checks it in the array and gets the integer set with it to award a bounty |
| 20:38.18 | Fatal510 | what data type should i use or how should i do it |
| 20:38.45 | AsaPhelps | lawl that commercial is pretty funny |
| 20:40.15 | Vophsix | you should have two arrays fata |
| 20:40.47 | onetwo | yeah fatal what youre thinking of is an actual object |
| 20:40.50 | onetwo | in a programming language |
| 20:40.54 | Fatal510 | cant do that |
| 20:40.54 | onetwo | which isnt doable in editor |
| 20:40.55 | Fatal510 | in ? |
| 20:40.56 | Fatal510 | damn |
| 20:41.00 | onetwo | so store it 2 seperate arrays |
| 20:41.06 | onetwo | in* |
| 20:41.14 | Vophsix | or try using a units custom value to store its bounty amount |
| 20:41.19 | onetwo | yeah |
| 20:41.21 | Vophsix | i dont think it is used for anything else |
| 20:41.31 | onetwo | well theres infinite custom values |
| 20:41.34 | onetwo | custom value 0 can be 15.0 |
| 20:41.39 | onetwo | custom value 1 can be 0.0 |
| 20:41.40 | onetwo | and so on |
| 20:41.42 | Vophsix | oh well tehre you go |
| 20:41.42 | onetwo | w/e you want |
| 20:41.44 | Fatal510 | custom values? |
| 20:42.03 | onetwo | when the unit is made |
| 20:42.05 | onetwo | do the action |
| 20:42.13 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.16 | onetwo | changing 1.0 to w/e you want |
| 20:42.23 | onetwo | and last created unit to w/e you need |
| 20:42.29 | onetwo | i just picked last created as an example |
| 20:42.32 | onetwo | then when it dies |
| 20:42.42 | onetwo | give killing player unit - custom value 0 of unit |
| 20:42.47 | onetwo | player: * |
| 20:42.51 | probalon | http://pastebin.com/mGebH7A7 |
| 20:43.10 | Fatal510 | alright |
| 20:43.19 | probalon | Helral, it isn't working :\ |
| 20:43.36 | Fatal510 | i have a question about unit attack range. |
| 20:43.44 | Skizot | I AM BORED |
| 20:43.47 | Skizot | AMUSE ME PEONS |
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| 20:43.56 | Fatal510 | in warcraft 3 standard archer would have a range of 500 |
| 20:43.59 | Skizot | DANCE FOR ME DELTOID |
| 20:44.01 | Fatal510 | what would that equal in sc2 |
| 20:44.01 | Fatal510 | 5? |
| 20:44.10 | probalon | marine is 6 |
| 20:44.27 | probalon | I think colossi are 9] |
| 20:44.34 | bam_qo | 8 |
| 20:44.38 | bam_qo | 9 after upgrade |
| 20:44.41 | Fatal510 | and the period thing |
| 20:44.44 | Fatal510 | that is attacks per second? |
| 20:44.54 | probalon | no |
| 20:44.54 | Vophsix | period between attacks |
| 20:45.15 | Vophsix | or how long an attack lasts for |
| 20:45.16 | probalon | can someone tell me why my trigger isn't working? |
| 20:45.18 | Vophsix | whichever |
| 20:45.24 | probalon | http://pastebin.com/mGebH7A7 |
| 20:45.25 | Fatal510 | so if i wanted to do 60 attacks a minute |
| 20:45.42 | Fatal510 | what would you put it to |
| 20:45.51 | Vophsix | 1 |
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| 20:45.54 | RickA | prob: within bounds is broken |
| 20:45.58 | Andernerd | 1.51 |
| 20:45.59 | Fatal510 | so it is attacks per second |
| 20:46.01 | Fatal510 | ?! |
| 20:46.05 | RickA | split it into x < 3600 and x > 3400 |
| 20:46.07 | Vophsix | not sure if it is game time or real time though |
| 20:46.07 | Andernerd | whoops |
| 20:46.10 | Andernerd | just 1 |
| 20:46.21 | Andernerd | It's game time |
| 20:46.38 | Andernerd | Otherwise you could completely unbalance the game by having a slow computer |
| 20:46.43 | onetwo | game time and yes it is per second |
| 20:46.46 | onetwo | period of 0.5 |
| 20:46.49 | onetwo | means 2 attacks per second |
| 20:47.18 | Vophsix | it's not per second though =/ |
| 20:47.54 | Vophsix | say if you put 5 it wouldn't make the unit attack every 0.2 |
| 20:47.55 | Helral | damned bug.... "Create Dialog Item" doesn't set Last Created Dialog Item :S grrrrrr.... |
| 20:48.25 | probalon | rickA I can't seem to find where I can turn >= into ) |
| 20:48.28 | probalon | * > |
| 20:48.48 | Ignorance | Is player 15 incapable of having upgrades? |
| 20:48.59 | TheLaughingMan | I need feedback! |
| 20:50.26 | probalon | http://pastebin.com/mGebH7A7 can someone tell me why my trigger isn't working @_@ |
| 20:50.49 | Helral | [22:45] <RickA> prob: within bounds is broken |
| 20:51.05 | Twiner | yay |
| 20:51.07 | Helral | [22:46] <RickA> split it into x < 3600 and x > 3400 |
| 20:51.07 | Twiner | fixed my headphones |
| 20:51.15 | Twiner | It hink I'll work on my RDG now |
| 20:51.39 | Andernerd | Vophsix, if you put it at 5, you would get 0.2 attacks per second |
| 20:51.56 | Andernerd | It would attack every 5 |
| 20:52.10 | Andernerd | Not practical for a machine gun =) |
| 20:53.38 | TheLaughingMan | What objects do you want to see get serialized? |
| 20:54.27 | probalon | FUCK IT WORKS! HALLELUJAHH SPANK ME SILLY |
| 20:55.09 | Helral | @prob: I won't spank ya... |
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| 20:59.43 | Clord | isn't that weird bound stuff related to prevent those silly error messages? |
| 20:59.44 | Clord | XD |
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| 21:04.55 | Shmack | for the "If Then Eals" is it "If" possable then do "Then" if not do" Eals? |
| 21:05.05 | Skizot | yes |
| 21:05.06 | Fatal510 | how do i make a text tag only visable to the killing player of the unit triggering the text tag |
| 21:05.11 | Shmack | why wont this work? |
| 21:05.11 | Skizot | do EALS |
| 21:05.12 | Shmack | http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5219/deletethisimage.jpg |
| 21:06.01 | Shmack | omg |
| 21:06.03 | Shmack | lawl |
| 21:06.07 | Shmack | nvm im stupid |
| 21:06.27 | Helral | if Used Dialog Item == No Dialog Item ???? ;p |
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| 21:07.07 | Shmack | it's not that look at the alart thing |
| 21:07.10 | Shmack | it's a comment |
| 21:07.13 | Shmack | not a action |
| 21:07.16 | Helral | hehehe |
| 21:07.17 | Shmack | if you know what i mean |
| 21:07.29 | Shmack | lol i feel so dumb :x |
| 21:08.48 | Helral | http://pastebin.com/wPPuc5z3 <-- anyone know how to use Edit Box Dialog Items in another way then this? since this is bugged :( well the UI message is triggered that I added here. |
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| 21:10.26 | onetwo | <Repo> onetwo has released a new video tutorial teaching hero creation at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1et41pqbJsM Approved by onetwo aka god. |
| 21:10.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:12.39 | Shmack | Helral |
| 21:12.45 | Shmack | you forgot something |
| 21:12.54 | Helral | what then? |
| 21:13.22 | Helral | if you thinking about setting the "Untitled Variable 001" then you're wrong I didn't set it on purpose ;p |
| 21:13.48 | Shmack | Dialog - Show/Hide (last created dialog) for (all payers) |
| 21:13.58 | Helral | it's not the entire trigger. |
| 21:14.11 | Shmack | you need to Show it to beable to see it |
| 21:14.18 | Helral | cause I check which position is the first user player, by going apst all slots. |
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| 21:14.57 | Helral | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.02 | Helral | that one is included. |
| 21:15.11 | Helral | in the trigger, somewhere near the bottom. |
| 21:15.19 | Helral | but that's like 100 lines further. |
| 21:15.26 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 21:15.40 | Shmack | lol |
| 21:15.50 | Helral | so I didn't really feel like copying that and everything in between as well ;p |
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| 21:16.10 | Alpha_vst | this is pissing me off like :P |
| 21:16.34 | Nuknfuts | arghhhhh |
| 21:16.37 | Nuknfuts | so headers are still getting corrupted? |
| 21:17.15 | TheLaughingMan | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-serialization/ |
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| 21:20.31 | AsaPhelps | Can anyone join the map "Missile Command"? |
| 21:21.00 | TheLaughingMan | why |
| 21:21.38 | RickA | What's the "Vitality" unit property? |
| 21:21.48 | TheLaughingMan | Vitals |
| 21:22.01 | RickA | Can you be more specific |
| 21:23.06 | Nuknfuts | what do you mean join AsaPhels |
| 21:23.09 | Nuknfuts | ps* |
| 21:23.23 | Alpha_vst | that makes me sad :( |
| 21:23.44 | Alpha_vst | at one point ravens had mine drones that made spider mines |
| 21:24.02 | TheLaughingMan | and? |
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| 21:25.32 | largelyrandom | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.38 | Clord | originally kinda starcraft 2 was supposed to be clone in melee side of first starcraft |
| 21:25.39 | Clord | XD |
| 21:25.53 | largelyrandom | There a way to make Unit Custom Value be an integer instead of a real? |
| 21:26.00 | largelyrandom | So I dont have to convert it to real all the time? |
| 21:26.05 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 21:26.06 | Clord | like some patch what has been made feedback of 10 years |
| 21:26.06 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 21:26.12 | Helral | you can always use (convert real to int) |
| 21:26.19 | largelyrandom | Now that I realize I've been an idiot and waste about 10 hours finding an alternative way of keeping track of shit |
| 21:26.22 | RodOfNOD | he doesnt want to have to |
| 21:26.35 | largelyrandom | I spent AAAAAGEEES fucking around with Ammo Count and Cargo shit |
| 21:26.50 | largelyrandom | Only to realize the reason I couldnt use Custom Value where I wanted is... it's not an integer |
| 21:27.03 | RickA | Yeah, CV really screws me up |
| 21:27.04 | Fatal510 | is there a quick way to destroy all units owned by player? |
| 21:27.09 | RickA | yes |
| 21:27.14 | largelyrandom | For each Unit Owned by Do Kill |
| 21:27.14 | RodOfNOD | use a nuke |
| 21:27.16 | largelyrandom | Or something like that |
| 21:27.16 | RodOfNOD | should work |
| 21:27.19 | RickA | make it a unit group and kill each unit |
| 21:27.34 | RodOfNOD | what no laughs for my ingenous humor? |
| 21:27.46 | RodOfNOD | i AM disappointed.... |
| 21:27.47 | RickA | too ingenous for me |
| 21:27.51 | largelyrandom | I'm feeling too sorry for myself to have fun |
| 21:27.52 | Helral | @largely: use "convert integer to real" to store it and "convert real to integer" to retrieve it.... |
| 21:28.02 | largelyrandom | Yeah, I know |
| 21:28.06 | Helral | ;p |
| 21:28.09 | largelyrandom | Would be easier not to have to |
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| 21:28.16 | largelyrandom | Look at this mess: |
| 21:28.35 | largelyrandom | Unit - Order (Picked unit) to ( Move targeting (Center of region[(Transport Number Of Units Carried of (Picked unit))][(Number of rounds in Carrier - Hangar magazine for (Picked unit))])) (Replace Existing Orders) |
| 21:29.05 | largelyrandom | Variable - Modify livesLeft[(Transport Number Of Units Carried of (Triggering unit))]: - 1 |
| 21:30.08 | largelyrandom | Now, should I change the cludge that works, but looks awful... |
| 21:31.31 | onetwo | you know what i admire about that circle TD (forget the name) where you and 4 players defend from cliffs |
| 21:31.34 | onetwo | is that the guy mad 40 waves |
| 21:31.42 | onetwo | that means 40 units each with 40 actors |
| 21:31.54 | onetwo | made* |
| 21:32.51 | Cloudwolf | I like that they made things much more customizeable |
| 21:32.58 | Cloudwolf | but god damn it makes unit creation harder |
| 21:33.01 | largelyrandom | I hate that you have to customize to much more |
| 21:33.03 | largelyrandom | yeah |
| 21:33.12 | largelyrandom | so* |
| 21:33.16 | Cloudwolf | wheres my wc3 set model |
| 21:33.18 | RodOfNOD | largelyrandom u should avoid using triggering unit unless u HAVE to ie there is nothing more speicfic |
| 21:33.27 | Cloudwolf | if im basing aunit offa another unit shoudlt it by default have the animations of the based model? |
| 21:33.43 | onetwo | what would be ideal is that if you duplicate a unit, EVERYTHING including weapon attack actors, unit actors, etc... is all set |
| 21:33.47 | onetwo | so it works straight out of the box |
| 21:33.52 | onetwo | i wouldnt be surprised if the release editor |
| 21:33.53 | onetwo | does this |
| 21:33.55 | largelyrandom | RodOfNOD: Any reasons for that? |
| 21:33.56 | Nuknfuts | it does... |
| 21:33.58 | largelyrandom | Or just because |
| 21:33.59 | onetwo | ? |
| 21:34.00 | onetwo | it does? |
| 21:34.04 | Nuknfuts | when you duplicate a unit just select everything |
| 21:34.07 | Nuknfuts | to duplicate |
| 21:34.13 | ekcolnovkol | hey onetwo |
| 21:34.14 | Nuknfuts | ull have 2x the data but it works out of the box :P |
| 21:34.15 | ekcolnovkol | simple question |
| 21:34.20 | onetwo | so if i duplicated probe it will duplicate the probe - attack beam actor? |
| 21:34.21 | ekcolnovkol | how the hell do i set up teams for the lobby <_< |
| 21:34.24 | onetwo | for its weapon |
| 21:34.26 | onetwo | that i also duplicate |
| 21:34.30 | onetwo | and will it set it |
| 21:34.34 | largelyrandom | It does if you check each box ? |
| 21:34.34 | Helral | @onetwo: duplicating unit gives you option to what you want to duplicate. |
| 21:34.45 | onetwo | yes yes im well aware |
| 21:34.47 | Deuce | i havent played with units much yet but i thought you could just select everything and do just that |
| 21:34.55 | Helral | @onetwo: the unchecked boxes are linked, the checked boxes duplicated. |
| 21:35.00 | onetwo | haha i know |
| 21:35.08 | onetwo | but in the past |
| 21:35.09 | ekcolnovkol | onetwo D; |
| 21:35.12 | onetwo | i havent tried this in patch 13 actually |
| 21:35.15 | onetwo | but in the past |
| 21:35.18 | onetwo | if you duplciated everything |
| 21:35.23 | onetwo | the weapon would have no sound |
| 21:35.24 | largelyrandom | When I dublicate a unit and link it all, can I change stuff like actor ? |
| 21:35.24 | onetwo | including the weapon |
| 21:35.26 | onetwo | or attack beam |
| 21:35.29 | Deuce | patch 13 allegedly fixes the links |
| 21:35.32 | onetwo | OH |
| 21:35.33 | onetwo | good to know |
| 21:35.39 | onetwo | yes you can |
| 21:35.56 | onetwo | and ekcolnovkol |
| 21:35.56 | largelyrandom | The Actor doesnt show up in the Editor |
| 21:36.01 | onetwo | im a bit sketchy in that area |
| 21:36.07 | Nuknfuts | although now i mostly create everything from scratch |
| 21:36.11 | largelyrandom | So, do I change it on the original model and change it for both? |
| 21:36.12 | onetwo | i dont like to do that |
| 21:36.15 | ekcolnovkol | how do you set teams? |
| 21:36.16 | ekcolnovkol | :x |
| 21:36.16 | Nuknfuts | its scary that i actually have events down |
| 21:36.17 | onetwo | because i dont have 100 days |
| 21:36.20 | Deuce | takes too long :P |
| 21:36.21 | onetwo | to make one unit |
| 21:36.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:36.26 | Nuknfuts | teams you cant set yet because blizzard f'd up headers again |
| 21:36.31 | onetwo | oh |
| 21:36.34 | Nuknfuts | but previous to this, you can set them |
| 21:36.43 | Deuce | since pretty much any unit i'd create shares characteristics with an existing unit |
| 21:36.44 | RodOfNOD | largelyrandom - well sometime by not being specific you will asumme that a triggering unit is one thing when it is not. For example in an event unit is killed if you use triggering unit which is it is it the killed or killing unit? its just WAY better to be specific unless there is no specific deal trust me |
| 21:36.47 | ekcolnovkol | but how did tower defense do it? |
| 21:36.47 | Nuknfuts | in fact i had my map tested out with ffa, 2v2v2v2 and 4v4 set up through lobby |
| 21:36.51 | ekcolnovkol | nvm |
| 21:37.04 | Nuknfuts | triggers :P |
| 21:37.09 | Helral | @largelyrandom: in the data editor - Data Type: Actors |
| 21:37.26 | onetwo | i better test out the data editor in patch 13, because my advanced tower D tutorial showed that once you duplicated a photon cannon+ its attack, you had to go into actors and duplicate the attack missile/attack launch/attack impact etc. actors and set them manually |
| 21:37.28 | onetwo | but maybe not anymore? |
| 21:37.29 | Deuce | Unit Dies event - triggering unit is the one that got killed |
| 21:37.40 | Deuce | killing unit can also be referenced |
| 21:37.42 | Helral | @lasrgelyrandom: or hit alt+shift+e |
| 21:37.48 | Helral | largely* |
| 21:37.59 | onetwo | but my tutorial is based on pre-13 |
| 21:38.13 | Deuce | onetwo - that's the exact bug that allegedly got fixed ;) |
| 21:38.15 | Nuknfuts | i dunno, i dont duplicate things much anymore |
| 21:38.18 | onetwo | oooh |
| 21:38.24 | onetwo | k |
| 21:38.27 | onetwo | thatd be awesome |
| 21:38.36 | RodOfNOD | deuce |
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| 21:38.41 | RodOfNOD | ive been coding wc3 for 10 year |
| 21:38.41 | RodOfNOD | s |
| 21:38.46 | RodOfNOD | do not use triggering |
| 21:38.48 | RodOfNOD | UNLESS |
| 21:38.49 | RodOfNOD | ui have to |
| 21:38.51 | Nuknfuts | there IS one thing basically you cant duplciate yet and i haven't figure out... animations for morph |
| 21:38.54 | onetwo | you do in a lot of cases now Rod |
| 21:38.56 | RodOfNOD | u will save urself HOURS of trouble |
| 21:38.58 | onetwo | they removed dieing unit |
| 21:39.00 | onetwo | and specifics |
| 21:39.04 | RodOfNOD | fine |
| 21:39.08 | RodOfNOD | my rule still is correct |
| 21:39.12 | onetwo | attacked unit |
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| 21:39.13 | RodOfNOD | only if u have too |
| 21:39.14 | onetwo | is triggering unit now |
| 21:39.17 | Deuce | hmm |
| 21:39.23 | Deuce | so whats a good alternative |
| 21:39.30 | Nuknfuts | agreed w/ RodOfNOD... dont use triggers if you dont have to |
| 21:39.33 | RodOfNOD | depends on what trigger is |
| 21:39.34 | largelyrandom | RodOfNOD: That part of the whole editing deal is the one I am pretty sure I actually have down ;) |
| 21:39.40 | Nuknfuts | triggers are the highest level of the game engine, and the easiest to break |
| 21:39.43 | RodOfNOD | trying to do |
| 21:39.47 | RodOfNOD | thats the problem with triggering |
| 21:39.51 | RodOfNOD | i have no idea what the unit is |
| 21:39.55 | RodOfNOD | but if u said killedunit |
| 21:39.58 | RodOfNOD | then id know |
| 21:40.00 | onetwo | yeah |
| 21:40.01 | onetwo | i agree |
| 21:40.09 | onetwo | i guess theyre trying to consolidate though |
| 21:40.12 | RodOfNOD | ur code should be self commenting |
| 21:40.16 | RodOfNOD | they will add them back |
| 21:40.17 | onetwo | beucase before we had like attacked unit, damaged unit, dieing unit |
| 21:40.17 | largelyrandom | Helral: Ah, so thats where I go to create new actors |
| 21:40.19 | onetwo | now its all triggering unit |
| 21:40.22 | RodOfNOD | just like they did back in 2003 |
| 21:40.23 | RickA | You're all wrong and you should be ashamed of yourselves |
| 21:40.27 | xttocs | Whoahoho it's Rockj |
| 21:40.27 | xttocs | err |
| 21:40.29 | xttocs | RodOfNOD |
| 21:40.29 | largelyrandom | Helral: Didnt realize that menu, too, was context sensitive |
| 21:40.36 | RodOfNOD | hey tocs |
| 21:40.39 | RickA | Triggers are the most stable thing we have in map editor right now. |
| 21:40.47 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:40.48 | RickA | Data can and will be changed before release. |
| 21:40.48 | Helral | ^^ |
| 21:41.04 | Nuknfuts | those are superficial changes |
| 21:41.14 | RickA | Tell that to my veterancy |
| 21:41.19 | RickA | Patch 13? Bam, broken. |
| 21:41.34 | RickA | Is making me redo a system superficial? |
| 21:41.37 | Fatal510 | my tower is not making any sound when it shoots! |
| 21:41.39 | Nuknfuts | and what broke? |
| 21:41.39 | Fatal510 | what do i do!!!!!!!! |
| 21:41.47 | largelyrandom | Fix the weapon :D |
| 21:41.48 | RickA | I haven't had to redo any triggers yet, I can tell you that much. |
| 21:41.56 | Fatal510 | i dont know what is broken |
| 21:42.08 | Nuknfuts | Triggers not being affected by patch has nothing to do with being broken in game btw |
| 21:42.34 | Deuce | i have event - unit dies. and in actions I reference the position of (triggering unit) because I want a zombie to spawn there |
| 21:42.41 | Fatal510 | i dont see anything that says |
| 21:42.44 | Fatal510 | set weapon sound |
| 21:42.47 | RodOfNOD | another issue with this crap is using GLOBALS like lastcreatedunit can be a problem at least it was in the past. I would immediately assign any global that blizzard makes to ur own local or ur own global so it wont get changed EVEN in the same thread this happened in wc3 believe it or not :) |
| 21:42.47 | Fatal510 | or anything like that |
| 21:42.58 | Nuknfuts | Deuce.... triggering unit being dead might no longer have a position |
| 21:42.59 | onetwo | actors Fatal |
| 21:43.01 | onetwo | Actors |
| 21:43.09 | Deuce | seems to work so far! |
| 21:43.23 | Helral | @Fatal - DataType:Actors ;) as onetwo says. |
| 21:43.40 | onetwo | if you copied photon cannon for instance |
| 21:43.41 | onetwo | its weapon |
| 21:43.42 | Deuce | and reference from there |
| 21:43.43 | Deuce | the first action I take in the trigger is setting a local variable to the position |
| 21:43.50 | onetwo | search for actors for photon cannon |
| 21:43.53 | onetwo | and find attack launch or w/e |
| 21:43.56 | onetwo | duplicate it |
| 21:44.00 | onetwo | set its token to your tower |
| 21:44.04 | Nuknfuts | so what was your problem Deuce |
| 21:44.08 | onetwo | or if its one of those actors without a token, go into events |
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| 21:44.13 | Deuce | apparently using (triggering unit) is bad |
| 21:44.16 | onetwo | and change everything from photon cannon to your tower |
| 21:44.16 | onetwo | EVents+* |
| 21:44.18 | largelyrandom | Question: do I redo my map and fix a weird cludge I've used basically everywhere, or let sleeping dogs lie? :P |
| 21:44.23 | Deuce | and I'm wondering why that might be and how I might work around it |
| 21:44.26 | Logon | Hey, Anyone have any idea on how to change the "Move" command called when you right click ? |
| 21:44.31 | Nuknfuts | because the triggering unit is dead |
| 21:45.01 | Skizot | if Deuce lagged and got a ping timeout... would that be freenode dropping a Deuce? |
| 21:45.04 | RodOfNOD | there is a killing unit and a triggering unit as far as i can see what im saying is those are essentially globals that can cause problems and might get trashed if blizzard screws u so assing them to a local/global early and u shouldnt have to deal with debugging shit that might not be ur problem |
| 21:45.08 | Logon | or make a trigger to start a ability Like if have the ghost selected nad press rightclick i want start a target ability |
| 21:45.25 | RodOfNOD | lol skiz |
| 21:45.55 | Nuknfuts | one thing to do is to just assign a local variable that returns the position of that unit and references it... see if that works |
| 21:46.00 | Nuknfuts | the variable will have the last position of said unit |
| 21:46.04 | RodOfNOD | deuce if ur trigger is small it wont matter but if u make a very large trigger then i would assign ur triggerunit unit to a local FIRST then u wont have the problem |
| 21:46.20 | RodOfNOD | or if u only need pos do what he said |
| 21:46.21 | Deuce | which is what I did anyway so apparently I'm a natural at this! :v |
| 21:46.26 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz * r3 YABOT/Lost Temple YABOT 0.1.0.SC2Map: Finished alpha version of Lost Temple |
| 21:46.27 | RodOfNOD | :) |
| 21:46.46 | Deuce | reassuring though, thanks |
| 21:46.57 | Cloudwolf | just me or did bnet kersplode? |
| 21:46.59 | Nuknfuts | its always a good practice to assign a reference to a particular thing |
| 21:47.02 | Nuknfuts | than let the editor figure it out |
| 21:47.12 | Nuknfuts | ive seen lag spikes cause triggers to fire off misreably |
| 21:47.37 | Fatal510 | alrighty i hate the data editor |
| 21:47.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:47.50 | Fatal510 | warcraft 3's was better |
| 21:47.51 | RodOfNOD | in the end of coruse blizz could always corrupt the value before u assign it but we do what we can :> |
| 21:47.56 | Nuknfuts | like dialogs... ive seen a simple lag spike occur and someone ends up clicking the button twice and 2x the units spawn for instance... major fail |
| 21:47.56 | Deuce | they did go a little overboard with it |
| 21:48.12 | Nuknfuts | tbh i think they shouldve split it into two UI's... one for basic things |
| 21:48.14 | Nuknfuts | and one for advanced |
| 21:48.15 | RodOfNOD | fatal what is better about wc3 besides simplicity |
| 21:48.31 | Nuknfuts | it took a lottttttttttttttttttt of time for me to master the data editor, but now ive got almost every thing down |
| 21:48.35 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-serialization/. SC2 Serialization. Th3LaughingMan (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 21:48.50 | Nuknfuts | but there's still a lot to be learned |
| 21:48.59 | Deuce | the simplicity IS the better part sometimes ;) |
| 21:49.01 | Mischgasm | Somebody want to help me with some fucking buggy code |
| 21:49.17 | RodOfNOD | u want power it takes more complication |
| 21:49.26 | Deuce | yes |
| 21:49.29 | Mischgasm | I made an action definition and it's not working the way I wnat it to |
| 21:49.29 | Deuce | too simple is a bad thing |
| 21:49.31 | RodOfNOD | i just want floatty boats |
| 21:49.37 | RodOfNOD | and all the shit that would go with that |
| 21:49.40 | Deuce | :D |
| 21:49.44 | onetwo | in a way i loved war3's system of copy pasting abilities |
| 21:49.48 | onetwo | and building them that way |
| 21:49.49 | onetwo | but we get |
| 21:49.54 | onetwo | way more customization now |
| 21:49.58 | onetwo | more work for us to be creative |
| 21:50.00 | ekcolnovkol | HAHHAA YES |
| 21:50.01 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 21:50.03 | onetwo | and come up with our own spells |
| 21:50.06 | ekcolnovkol | MY MAP WORKS |
| 21:50.08 | Deuce | yeah I never saw any WC3 FLIGHT SIMULATORS |
| 21:50.09 | ekcolnovkol | EVERYTHING IS PERFECT |
| 21:50.11 | ekcolnovkol | RAGES |
| 21:50.11 | RodOfNOD | what would be nice is some scripting of copying etc |
| 21:50.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:50.21 | Lyrrad | I made a wc3 flight sim |
| 21:50.31 | Deuce | quiet you |
| 21:50.37 | ekcolnovkol | I AM INDESTRUCTIBLEEEEE |
| 21:50.37 | Deuce | you hallucinated |
| 21:50.45 | Fatal510 | i cant seem to make it have an attack sound |
| 21:50.48 | Deuce | determination that is incorruptible? |
| 21:50.51 | Mischgasm | Can somebody help me with this action definition, it's supposed to return the index of a player. |
| 21:50.52 | Mischgasm | http://pastebin.com/Zv6M8vX5 |
| 21:51.06 | Mischgasm | It's buggy |
| 21:51.14 | Deuce | didn't somebody say action definitions werent working or was that events |
| 21:51.33 | Mischgasm | it's a function* |
| 21:51.37 | Mischgasm | wrong word |
| 21:51.49 | Mischgasm | and it's partially working |
| 21:51.50 | Mischgasm | so |
| 21:52.06 | onetwo | *looks at the action definition* Damn it sure is dark in here... hmm let me look... *bends down and touches something gooey* What's this... *turns around* Mischgasm? *Shots fired. Blood pools* |
| 21:52.23 | Mischgasm | lolwut? |
| 21:53.02 | Deuce | im a noob but |
| 21:53.09 | Deuce | i starts out as 0 right |
| 21:53.20 | Mischgasm | also this is the trigger I'm using it in |
| 21:53.20 | Mischgasm | http://pastebin.com/kKV87BKw |
| 21:53.23 | Mischgasm | yes |
| 21:53.38 | Deuce | so it will never be > playingplayers |
| 21:53.44 | Nuknfuts | it doesnt start out at 0 |
| 21:53.48 | Nuknfuts | parameter is what gets passed |
| 21:53.58 | Mischgasm | Yeah I didn't make it, that's why I need help |
| 21:53.58 | onetwo | i cant figure it out >< |
| 21:54.02 | Deuce | durr |
| 21:54.04 | Mischgasm | some friend is just like, use this |
| 21:54.11 | Deuce | I brainswapped index and i |
| 21:54.11 | Mischgasm | so I did, and it's not working |
| 21:55.05 | Nuknfuts | so just an fyi |
| 21:55.09 | Nuknfuts | but player # = the order the player enters the game |
| 21:55.20 | Nuknfuts | so you dont have to worry about player numbers being out of order... cause its not possible |
| 21:55.31 | Nuknfuts | not yet at least |
| 21:55.40 | Nuknfuts | we'll see if blizzard changes this or not... which will break a lot of triggers |
| 21:56.02 | Fatal510 | lol this is stupid |
| 21:56.05 | Fatal510 | i change a sound option |
| 21:56.11 | Fatal510 | and the model goes away |
| 21:56.13 | Fatal510 | to a red ball |
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| 21:56.35 | Coolflip | if you put in .2 to the period, it will be 2 seconds |
| 21:56.42 | Clord | also those clueless masses blame us map makers of certain bugs what is caused by blizzard way to do game |
| 21:56.42 | Fatal510 | no |
| 21:56.58 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/the_neo_hunters/. The Neo Hunters. Worlon83 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 21:57.07 | AsaPhelps | ~seen Crayon |
| 21:57.10 | purl | crayon <~4072e26b@gateway/web/freenode/x-ogcrnfaxcnjtfwos> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 20h 21m 16s ago, saying: 'and fix battle.net audio'. |
| 21:57.19 | Nuknfuts | im in no rush to put my map online... though its pretty damn ready |
| 21:57.27 | Nuknfuts | except this entire teams / custom header bs |
| 21:57.28 | Clord | or they wonder stuff like.. why there is 12 team? XD |
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| 21:57.40 | Clord | etc |
| 21:57.43 | onetwo | oh i think i found a bug |
| 21:57.47 | Nuknfuts | you need triggers right now just to make sure teams spawn properly etc |
| 21:57.48 | Deuce | i wont release anything until retail |
| 21:57.50 | onetwo | i was trying to play risk revulsion yesterday |
| 21:57.58 | Deuce | ...because nothing I make will be any good before then :D |
| 21:58.06 | Fatal510 | the way this editor handles the actor bullshit is dumb |
| 21:58.23 | Clord | it is probably engine limitation |
| 21:58.24 | AsaPhelps | Can anyone join the map "Missile Command" on uS? |
| 21:58.26 | Clord | one actor.. one unit |
| 21:58.36 | Clord | unless it is special case like construct etc |
| 21:58.37 | Clord | XD |
| 21:58.40 | Cloudwolf | I can't asaphelps |
| 21:58.42 | Cloudwolf | i plaeyd 2 games of it |
| 21:58.44 | Cloudwolf | then coudln't join after |
| 21:58.45 | AsaPhelps | GG blizzard |
| 21:58.47 | AsaPhelps | GG |
| 21:58.49 | onetwo | if you try to join an FFA game in a party of 2, itll always say no room |
| 21:58.51 | AsaPhelps | Did you like it cloud? |
| 21:58.53 | onetwo | because of the way tems are |
| 21:58.55 | onetwo | teams* |
| 21:59.00 | Clord | this FFA lobby also ruins possibility to join as party |
| 21:59.03 | Cloudwolf | well ive paleyd it before on wc3 |
| 21:59.05 | Cloudwolf | so yes |
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| 21:59.16 | AsaPhelps | why does it keep getting that bug |
| 21:59.20 | AsaPhelps | where the lobby wont load? |
| 21:59.28 | Cloudwolf | I have no clue |
| 21:59.40 | Cloudwolf | servers overloading from requests to play it? XD |
| 21:59.56 | Clord | there is also mysterious... some maps randomly dissappear from playable |
| 21:59.59 | Clord | I mean |
| 22:00.03 | Clord | they get their greyed out text |
| 22:00.04 | Clord | XD |
| 22:00.36 | AsaPhelps | What maps Clord |
| 22:00.38 | Cloudwolf | You know how you guys were talking about the complex unit creation being a good thinga nd a hinderance? |
| 22:00.39 | AsaPhelps | I know my map does |
| 22:00.56 | Clord | this lobby system is also horrible... my maps was played about entire day |
| 22:01.04 | Cloudwolf | to me its a little bit of a hinderance as i never realy completed a map on wc3's map editor due to not liking the repetition of unit creation |
| 22:01.04 | Clord | but then one guy joined |
| 22:01.05 | Clord | became host |
| 22:01.07 | Clord | and idled hours |
| 22:01.08 | Cloudwolf | and that was on a simple scale... |
| 22:01.27 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/the_neo_hunters/. The Neo Hunters. Worlon83 (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 22:01.33 | Fatal510 | i see the attack sound value its AutoTurret2_attack (Unknown) but AutoTurret2_attack does not exsist anywhere on the list |
| 22:01.40 | Clord | one player need to idle as host to destroy entire map's popularity most cases |
| 22:01.58 | onetwo | yeah thats an issue :/ |
| 22:01.59 | AsaPhelps | what color is FFFFF? |
| 22:02.08 | Cloudwolf | black? |
| 22:02.09 | Fatal510 | black |
| 22:02.11 | Nuknfuts | white |
| 22:02.13 | Nuknfuts | or black |
| 22:02.14 | Cloudwolf | thats hexadecimal |
| 22:02.21 | Nuknfuts | its all colors |
| 22:02.28 | largelyrandom | Fatal510: That value is an empty one, you need to pick one that actually exists :) |
| 22:02.30 | Cloudwolf | so 15x16+15 |
| 22:02.43 | Fatal510 | yes i know |
| 22:02.44 | Nuknfuts | its white 255 255 255 |
| 22:02.47 | Clord | I think it should detect that if no mouse movement or keyboard happen or guy is more than few minutes windows minimized during lobby... it would auto kick hoster |
| 22:02.48 | Nuknfuts | or black or whatever |
| 22:02.52 | Fatal510 | but there is no damn auto turret attack sound on that list |
| 22:02.55 | Fatal510 | and no matter what i change it to |
| 22:02.58 | Fatal510 | even a archon attack sound |
| 22:03.00 | Fatal510 | no sound happens |
| 22:03.01 | largelyrandom | It's called Auto Turret Attack ? |
| 22:03.05 | Fatal510 | nope |
| 22:03.07 | Fatal510 | thats not on that list |
| 22:03.12 | Nuknfuts | actually FFFFFF on web is white ~_~ |
| 22:03.20 | largelyrandom | Are you searching in the right dataset? |
| 22:03.26 | largelyrandom | Or just the dataset you ahve created for your map |
| 22:03.55 | Fatal510 | ? |
| 22:04.28 | largelyrandom | Data Source: YourMapName or All Data ? |
| 22:04.39 | Fatal510 | all data of course |
| 22:04.41 | Nuknfuts | auto turret attack is the sound |
| 22:04.52 | Nuknfuts | the actor that handles the attack effect for auto turrets is Auto Turret Attack |
| 22:04.56 | largelyrandom | Well, it shows up in my editor |
| 22:04.57 | Nuknfuts | it has the firing/hit/sound graphics |
| 22:05.24 | largelyrandom | Can I do something like, If unit enters Region(Any Region) ? |
| 22:05.36 | largelyrandom | Or Region(RegionArray) |
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| 22:06.01 | Fatal510 | every other sound on the damn turret works |
| 22:06.04 | Fatal510 | the placement and the death |
| 22:06.13 | Nuknfuts | those other sounds are the Turret Actor |
| 22:06.18 | Nuknfuts | what weapon did you give the turret? |
| 22:06.31 | Fatal510 | a copy of the auto turret weapon |
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| 22:06.41 | Nuknfuts | and what effect is the auto turrets weapon? |
| 22:06.54 | Fatal510 | a copy of the standard auto turrets weapon effect |
| 22:07.03 | Nuknfuts | ok |
| 22:07.05 | Nuknfuts | so go to Actors |
| 22:07.09 | Nuknfuts | Auto Turret Attack |
| 22:07.21 | Fatal510 | there is no auto turret attack under attacks |
| 22:07.22 | Nuknfuts | you have to duplicate that and assign the actor to that auto turret weapon effect |
| 22:07.25 | Fatal510 | just the damn turret |
| 22:07.38 | Nuknfuts | yes there is |
| 22:07.38 | Fatal510 | under actors* |
| 22:07.38 | Nuknfuts | its Action |
| 22:07.50 | Nuknfuts | type in Auto in search |
| 22:07.56 | Nuknfuts | its right under Auto Turret if sorted by name |
| 22:08.11 | Nuknfuts | you're not using the Unit are you? |
| 22:08.29 | Nuknfuts | go to Data Type: Actors to see your attack editors... not through Units |
| 22:08.44 | Logon | Ehh Move with Offset and then set Z offset the char is still on the ground i can't figure out how to get him to fly |
| 22:08.44 | Nuknfuts | (they should really make Actors the default page to open up, since they handle everything in game pretty much) |
| 22:09.03 | Fatal510 | lets take this to a PM |
| 22:09.16 | largelyrandom | heh |
| 22:10.12 | largelyrandom | A trigger with multiple Events-triggers runs if any of the events occur, true or false ? |
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| 22:12.03 | Nuknfuts | true |
| 22:12.17 | Nuknfuts | any single event occurs = event firs |
| 22:12.19 | Cloudwolf | did they ever make the default trigger edtiro multi instanceable? |
| 22:12.20 | Nuknfuts | fires* |
| 22:12.49 | Nuknfuts | what? |
| 22:12.53 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/extraction/. Extraction. Ultraling (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 22:12.56 | Nuknfuts | you mean multi threaded? |
| 22:13.11 | Cloudwolf | I mean in the wc3 editor if you were to create an ability as a dummy ability and have it triggered |
| 22:13.15 | Cloudwolf | if it was done in the GUI |
| 22:13.19 | Cloudwolf | and multiple people used the ability |
| 22:13.23 | Cloudwolf | only 1 player would have the ability work |
| 22:13.39 | TheLaughingMan | I reclaim abandoned property. |
| 22:13.50 | Nuknfuts | not sure, i havent bothered with it |
| 22:13.51 | TheLaughingMan | It's a lot easier than robbing the living... |
| 22:13.52 | Cloudwolf | where as if you coded the same ability in jass any number of players could use the ability |
| 22:14.22 | AsaPhelps | Anyone want to help me test my map? |
| 22:14.37 | AsaPhelps | looking at you cloud |
| 22:14.50 | Cloudwolf | What is the map of? |
| 22:15.21 | AsaPhelps | Its missile command |
| 22:15.28 | AsaPhelps | I'm trying to fix the lobby issues |
| 22:15.38 | Nuknfuts | whats your lobby issues |
| 22:15.45 | AsaPhelps | After a while the lobby won't load |
| 22:15.49 | AsaPhelps | And the button to join grays out |
| 22:15.53 | AsaPhelps | Requiring people to relog |
| 22:16.13 | Cloudwolf | to me that just seems like a battle.net glitch but heh |
| 22:16.20 | AsaPhelps | well it always happens to my map |
| 22:16.33 | AsaPhelps | like no matter how many times you relog it seems to happen |
| 22:16.39 | Cloudwolf | just got a map not found error trying to join the v.6 or what ever |
| 22:16.40 | AsaPhelps | so cloud you in!? |
| 22:16.47 | AsaPhelps | yeah I deleted it |
| 22:16.47 | Fatal510 | if i make a copy of a turret and only copy the attacks the weapon and weapon effect. everything should work fine on the bitch i shouldnt need to go and change and bunch of stuff |
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| 22:17.00 | Fatal510 | err not attacks .. Actor |
| 22:17.38 | Nuknfuts | thats because a weapon effect has its own sound etc |
| 22:17.52 | Nuknfuts | you can amke an auto turret effect sound like a siege tank if u wanted |
| 22:17.54 | Cloudwolf | can't seem to find it int he list asa |
| 22:18.08 | Fatal510 | apparantly i cant make it sound like anything |
| 22:18.45 | Nuknfuts | i already told you... your copy of the auto turret damage effect didnt link to the auto turret attack actor |
| 22:18.54 | Nuknfuts | are you trying to link things under the Units tab? |
| 22:19.41 | Cloudwolf | the only versions i was able to find were .6f,g,h all of which come up with amap not found error |
| 22:20.09 | AsaPhelps | Cloud I uploaded v6i |
| 22:20.15 | AsaPhelps | Its at the bottom, 1 game played |
| 22:20.21 | largelyrandom | When I have created a unit and an actor, how do I link em together? :D |
| 22:20.30 | Nuknfuts | under actor, up top |
| 22:20.30 | AsaPhelps | Go to actor |
| 22:20.34 | Nuknfuts | there is unitName |
| 22:20.38 | Nuknfuts | link it to the unit you made |
| 22:20.51 | largelyrandom | ah yes, found it |
| 22:20.55 | largelyrandom | Just when you wrote it |
| 22:21.03 | largelyrandom | thanks |
| 22:21.04 | Cloudwolf | found it |
| 22:21.09 | Cloudwolf | and i am able to join |
| 22:21.33 | Deuce | Can a switch case be set to a range? it seems to only let me set single values |
| 22:21.35 | Fatal510 | i tried to delete the old auto turret unit copy i had and start over but now when i make the copy it has all the old stuff still there |
| 22:21.56 | Deuce | If (5) for instance not If (5-50_ |
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| 22:22.50 | Hati | Deuce: if 5<x && x<50 |
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| 22:23.19 | Hati | as switch is only defined by lots of ifs |
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| 22:24.38 | Nuknfuts | so glad to be done with the iPhone and AT&T this week...... finally |
| 22:25.16 | Deuce | i see |
| 22:25.42 | Deuce | eh, i'll go with what I know. If Else multiple works for my purposes :p |
| 22:26.55 | Fatal510 | finally got the sound working |
| 22:27.14 | redmarine | Anyone knows how I can get Localizer to work? |
| 22:27.28 | redmarine | It seems to freeze all the time |
| 22:27.46 | redmarine | Hm, Localizer seems to require .Net 3.5 but I already got Visual Studio 2010 installed with the latest .Net |
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| 22:30.19 | Hati | where it freezes? |
| 22:32.44 | TheLaughingMan | You know something |
| 22:32.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Leech (~Leech@70.44.158.205.res-cmts.val.ptd.net) |
| 22:32.47 | TheLaughingMan | that might explain the lag |
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| 22:33.02 | Leech | how come there is delay when trying to play maps with key presses for movement? |
| 22:33.16 | TheLaughingMan | Set the game speed to fast |
| 22:33.31 | Hati | Leech - built-in delay to bnet |
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| 22:34.15 | Leech | o i see |
| 22:34.19 | Leech | so how do you accommodate for that? |
| 22:34.41 | redmarine | +Hati, when you click on Localize |
| 22:34.48 | TheLaughingMan | predict what users are going to press |
| 22:35.01 | Hati | redmarine: then what happens :x ? |
| 22:35.08 | redmarine | It basically locks |
| 22:35.11 | redmarine | It freezes |
| 22:35.21 | redmarine | It won't react |
| 22:35.26 | redmarine | However, it doesn't appear to freeze |
| 22:35.28 | redmarine | Or stop working |
| 22:35.36 | redmarine | It simply locks and is unselectable |
| 22:35.50 | Hati | maybe you are doing some stuff side-way ? |
| 22:35.57 | Hati | defragmenting |
| 22:36.12 | redmarine | Well, I doubt MSN and the browsers are interrupting |
| 22:36.15 | redmarine | Nothing like that |
| 22:36.29 | Hati | OS ? |
| 22:36.36 | redmarine | windows 7 64 bit |
| 22:36.45 | redmarine | classic theme |
| 22:36.47 | TheLaughingMan | XD |
| 22:36.56 | redmarine | When I close the MPQ service it continues to work |
| 22:36.57 | Hati | and you have Net35 ? |
| 22:36.59 | TheLaughingMan | Never try playing Prince of Persia and forget to close SC2 |
| 22:37.10 | redmarine | Well, I got Visual Studio 2008 installed |
| 22:37.12 | Hati | wtf |
| 22:37.15 | redmarine | So yeah I should have it |
| 22:37.18 | Hati | you opened the map with MPQ service ? |
| 22:37.24 | redmarine | Well, no |
| 22:37.31 | TheLaughingMan | I thought my computer couldn't handle the game at first |
| 22:37.33 | redmarine | The Localizer ran a MPQ instance |
| 22:37.34 | redmarine | I think |
| 22:37.55 | Hati | yea it does |
| 22:38.18 | redmarine | Is it compatible with .net 3.5 service pack 1? |
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| 22:39.13 | Hati | this is a very good question |
| 22:39.33 | redmarine | I'm unable to revert back to .net 3.5 |
| 22:39.41 | redmarine | stuck with service pack 1 |
| 22:40.09 | Hati | Latest Net3.5 |
| 22:40.16 | Hati | so i guess SP1 |
| 22:41.23 | Fatal510 | hmmm |
| 22:44.55 | redmarine | Could you just nudge if you found a solution? |
| 22:45.04 | redmarine | find* |
| 22:45.20 | Hati | well if i would have used just Net3.5 |
| 22:45.22 | Hati | without SP1 |
| 22:45.32 | Hati | then the other PC i've tested with would have too ... |
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| 22:45.36 | Hati | which it does not for suure |
| 22:45.39 | Hati | sure* |
| 22:45.45 | redmarine | I see. |
| 22:45.51 | Fatal510 | why wont it let you get all units owned by player with a function |
| 22:46.06 | redmarine | So, I may have to just localize on older PC with .net 3.5? |
| 22:46.09 | Fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.09 | Fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.09 | Fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.16 | Fatal510 | need to do something like that |
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| 22:47.04 | Twiner | anyone know how the lighting stuff works? |
| 22:47.12 | Martul | Wow, banks are broken. they no longer save. |
| 22:47.13 | Hati | do you have Net4 installed ? |
| 22:47.28 | redmarine | Uh... |
| 22:47.34 | redmarine | How do I check that now -.- |
| 22:47.53 | Alpha_vst | WOOT |
| 22:47.56 | Hati | System -> Programms |
| 22:47.57 | Alpha_vst | ABOUT TIME |
| 22:48.02 | Alpha_vst | i got my morph to work |
| 22:48.04 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:48.41 | Hati | redmarine: Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features |
| 22:49.26 | redmarine | ok |
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| 22:51.01 | redmarine | this is odd |
| 22:51.14 | redmarine | .net isn't listed |
| 22:51.43 | redmarine | I can only find Prerequisites |
| 22:52.26 | Martul | now that banks no longer save I can't work on shit |
| 22:52.39 | Hati | just search for .Net |
| 22:53.33 | redmarine | well |
| 22:53.34 | Alpha_vst | banks are not broken your just a whiny turd |
| 22:53.51 | redmarine | Microsoft Windows DK for Visual Studio 2008 .NET Framework Tools |
| 22:54.02 | Alpha_vst | every time i look at chat you are complaining 0.o |
| 22:54.13 | Nuknfuts | blayzinnnnnnnnnn |
| 22:54.21 | redmarine | Visual Studio .NET Prerequisites - English |
| 22:54.30 | Hati | redmarine: yea so you don't have .NET :P |
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| 22:54.38 | redmarine | I'm unable to install it |
| 22:54.43 | redmarine | I tried earlier today |
| 22:55.14 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:55.21 | Alpha_vst | why cant you install it |
| 22:55.38 | redmarine | Not sure |
| 22:55.39 | Hati | well that would mean you have .NET4 |
| 22:55.43 | redmarine | It gives me an error |
| 22:55.45 | Hati | if you cannot install .NET3.5 |
| 22:55.54 | Hati | but then the installer won't even start |
| 22:55.58 | redmarine | I'm going try again |
| 22:57.24 | Twiner | if a function is greyed out, does that mean it doesn't work? |
| 22:57.41 | redmarine | I'll have to restart |
| 22:58.06 | Hati | Twiner: disabled - maybe right click it |
| 22:58.20 | Twiner | I mean when selecting functions for a variable |
| 22:58.31 | Twiner | nm |
| 23:00.06 | Alpha_vst | i have no idea what that is either lol |
| 23:00.06 | Twiner | hmmm |
| 23:00.37 | Martul | Banks are broken. when you save a bank and join the map that loads said bank its erased. |
| 23:00.43 | Alpha_vst | lol fuck i broke my morphs :( |
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| 23:03.11 | Deuce | martul - that seems entirely contrary to the point of banks! :) |
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| 23:03.47 | Twiner | I guess thers no way to do this |
| 23:04.54 | Deuce | twiner - if you're selecting a function but it's greyed out, I think that means it is of an incompatible type |
| 23:05.06 | Twiner | it seems to have worked though |
| 23:05.12 | Deuce | like you're asking for an integer but that function returns a unit type |
| 23:05.23 | Twiner | http://pastebin.com/73PbbnyU. |
| 23:05.25 | Twiner | http://pastebin.com/73PbbnyU |
| 23:05.46 | Twiner | that doesn't work btw |
| 23:06.02 | Twiner | err, I guess that was the wrong funtion lol |
| 23:06.07 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:06.27 | Deuce | ok blizzard. I duplicate a marine. check all the boxes. the only change I make to the unit is checking the "hero" flag |
| 23:06.44 | Twiner | blah |
| 23:06.49 | Twiner | I have no way to do this |
| 23:06.52 | Deuce | this new unit does not have a button for move, hold position, patrol, or stim pack |
| 23:06.57 | Twiner | because I can't get the current mouse position |
| 23:07.19 | Lyrrad | Deuce - That is because the command card did not update properly |
| 23:07.35 | AsaPhelps | You have copies of those thing |
| 23:07.47 | AsaPhelps | If you don't check those it'll probably work |
| 23:07.49 | Lyrrad | Go to the command card and change all the Move/Attacks and whatnot to Move copy, Attack Copy etc |
| 23:08.29 | Lyrrad | either that, or go to the abilities and set those to the not copy versions |
| 23:08.32 | AsaPhelps | so how are you suppose to play touhou on battlenet? |
| 23:08.58 | Deuce | why should i have to pick move copy |
| 23:09.10 | Deuce | AGHDSFKHF |
| 23:09.11 | Deuce | WHATS WRONG WITH JUST MOVE |
| 23:09.30 | Lyrrad | When duplicating you should only duplicate the things to intend to change and the actor in the case of units |
| 23:09.43 | Lyrrad | Because Move isn;t one of the abilties of your marine |
| 23:09.58 | Deuce | isee |
| 23:10.37 | Lyrrad | so you can either change the abilities, or change the command card |
| 23:11.18 | Deuce | deleting a unit in data editor while still having one on the map didn't go well |
| 23:11.19 | Lyrrad | probably better to change the abilities, unless you plan on having some sort of special move ability |
| 23:11.31 | Lyrrad | yeah, thats not so pretty |
| 23:11.41 | Deuce | program crash |
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| 23:11.50 | Deuce | you'd think they'd put in a check for that |
| 23:12.01 | Lyrrad | Beta editor |
| 23:12.48 | Deuce | yeah |
| 23:13.00 | Deuce | i hope this isn't what blizzard used to make the campaign! |
| 23:13.17 | Nuknfuts | it is |
| 23:13.21 | Deuce | ffffffffffffffffffff |
| 23:13.21 | Lyrrad | Its a stripped down version I believe |
| 23:13.29 | Nuknfuts | why the complaints? |
| 23:14.01 | casperb | Hey guys, trying to publish but getting an error saying that I'm missing a dependency named Teams01 Mod.. which isn't a dependency and i have no idea where it's coming from :S any ideas? |
| 23:14.29 | Nuknfuts | bbl |
| 23:14.45 | casperb | Feature wise, i think it's the full version just missing assets and function libraries |
| 23:15.20 | Lyrrad | It probably lacks some of the more recent bug fixes as well |
| 23:15.50 | casperb | Hope so, It's not like it leaks memory at all.. :P |
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| 23:16.11 | Lyrrad | and given that it was updated in patch 13, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more updates before release, or at release |
| 23:16.21 | casperb | WC3 editor was pretty bad at collecting garbage as-well IIRC |
| 23:16.35 | Deuce | oh god DOTA remake is already well underway |
| 23:16.47 | Skizot | duh |
| 23:16.50 | Lyrrad | of course it is |
| 23:16.54 | casperb | like 10 of them ^^ |
| 23:17.05 | Lyrrad | I am rather amazed there hasn't been some released already |
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| 23:17.15 | Deuce | i know but I was hoping to bury my head in the sand |
| 23:17.34 | Lyrrad | You can always not play them |
| 23:19.47 | Martul | damn blizzard for breaking banks |
| 23:19.49 | Martul | :( |
| 23:20.04 | casperb | Banks are broken? |
| 23:20.09 | Lyrrad | 1/10 |
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| 23:21.02 | Martul | yup |
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| 23:21.34 | onetwo | breaking banks not to be confused with hit AMC show breaking bad |
| 23:21.35 | Martul | I open my bank, add data, save the bank. restart the map and the data in the map is gone |
| 23:21.55 | Martul | in the bank*** |
| 23:22.04 | redmarine | +Hati, well, it doesn't seem to work |
| 23:22.06 | redmarine | It freezes |
| 23:23.19 | Twiner | sc2 really doesn't like the mouse clicked events huh |
| 23:24.18 | Lyrrad | I think its probably bad when used with multiplayer games |
| 23:24.26 | Twiner | most likely |
| 23:24.32 | Twiner | I don't see why it is that way though |
| 23:24.41 | Twiner | why can't i have two version or something |
| 23:24.49 | Lyrrad | because every time anyone clicks it calls the event |
| 23:24.51 | Twiner | a local clikc and a non local click |
| 23:25.14 | Twiner | I mean, what I'm doing is nodifferent from using the UI and issuing an order |
| 23:25.26 | Lyrrad | because its functionality not required by the game and was added in at the last minute |
| 23:25.27 | Martul | Damn blizzard for breaking banks :( |
| 23:25.37 | Twiner | yeah |
| 23:25.51 | Twiner | well I can hope they will add some better key/mouse functions |
| 23:26.06 | Twiner | I want to make a diablo style control system, its just not possible atm |
| 23:26.26 | Lyrrad | why not? |
| 23:26.32 | Martul | for some weird reason everytime you open a bank that exist it deletes all of its data |
| 23:26.44 | Twiner | well I can't get the current possition of the cursor is the mouse button is held down |
| 23:26.46 | Twiner | which is a limitation |
| 23:27.13 | Twiner | so I can't do a click and hold, order every .1 seconds to move to mouse position |
| 23:27.42 | Twiner | additionally, I wanted this to be multiplayer, so using the mouse down event could get very cumbersome, especially if the players are all in heated battles simultaneously |
| 23:27.53 | Twiner | that trigger will be flying off teh rails |
| 23:28.43 | Twiner | so it seems its not possible |
| 23:28.43 | Lyrrad | sc2 is a rts game, there are going to be limitations to what you can do |
| 23:28.49 | Twiner | of coruse |
| 23:28.50 | Twiner | couse |
| 23:28.52 | Twiner | ... |
| 23:29.09 | Twiner | I'm not bitchign at blizzard |
| 23:29.16 | Martul | sadly, i doubt blizz will fix banks anytime soon. probably won't be at least until next phase |
| 23:29.20 | Twiner | they just exposed some controls that to me, seems largely useless |
| 23:29.34 | Twiner | speicfically the mouse adn keyboard events |
| 23:30.04 | Twiner | while they can be used, for single player games, the situtions where those games get used will be limited |
| 23:30.04 | Martul | I wonder what blizzard did to break banks |
| 23:30.15 | Lyrrad | I believe you can use them more efficently if you go in an edit them in Galaxy script directly |
| 23:30.45 | Twiner | has any one made a galaxy editor edit? |
| 23:30.50 | Twiner | script editor** |
| 23:31.53 | casperb | Just use the built in one? :P |
| 23:32.11 | casperb | or write lang specs for a gtk based one |
| 23:35.00 | onetwo | you know one thing i love about triggers over basic coding |
| 23:35.07 | onetwo | is that you can just rename a variable |
| 23:35.10 | onetwo | and everywhere its changed |
| 23:35.19 | onetwo | i know theres refactoring etc in real code, but not as quick |
| 23:35.23 | casperb | can do that with a decent editor aswell, refactoring methos |
| 23:35.26 | casperb | methods * |
| 23:35.29 | Alpha_vst | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.31 | onetwo | see i beat your counterattack |
| 23:35.32 | onetwo | in advance |
| 23:35.33 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:35.38 | Twiner | In Visual Studio, you can just right click on a variable and click refactor, and change it everywhere |
| 23:35.52 | Twiner | It doesn't take any longer |
| 23:36.09 | onetwo | well it does |
| 23:36.10 | onetwo | just not much |
| 23:36.27 | Martul | WTF did blizzard do to break banks ??? |
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| 23:37.03 | casperb | does take more time to click around to implement stuff but atleast i can't obsess over things like coding conventions |
| 23:37.15 | onetwo | hmm true |
| 23:38.16 | redpand | Does anyone know how to get an carrier's interceptors to attack 1 up to (number of interceptors) separate targets, instead of focusing just one target? |
| 23:39.05 | Lyrrad | Thats an interesting idea |
| 23:39.14 | AsaPhelps | you mean 1 interceptor per target? |
| 23:39.19 | redpand | Yeah |
| 23:39.47 | redpand | Unless there's only one target, in which case they'll all gank that target. |
| 23:39.47 | Martul | I'd like to see banks working again |
| 23:40.30 | redpand | I know how to do that with regular missile attacks, but not with escort/fighters. |
| 23:41.22 | Martul | Damn blizzard for breaking banks |
| 23:41.31 | Deuce | units can fire at multiple targets simultaneously? |
| 23:41.47 | Twiner | I'm just going to setup an irc time |
| 23:42.14 | Twiner | that randomaly makes me say "damn blizzard for breaking ____" and replace the blank with a random part of the game, so I can constantly annoy everyone in here |
| 23:42.58 | Deuce | don't you worry about ____. Let ME worry about ____ |
| 23:43.08 | redpand | Sure. You setup a Search Area effect to find the targets (that's what the weapon fires) then you have your persistent effects launch from the area search. |
| 23:43.16 | heysparky | Blizzard's breaking my bank :) |
| 23:43.26 | Twiner | Is this Madlibs ____. When are we going to start ____. |
| 23:43.41 | Lyrrad | redpand - I expect that it should be possible to change "Carrier - Launch Interceptor (Persistent)" to have them attack multiple targets |
| 23:44.38 | Martul | stfu sparky. you know what i mean. not stop being dumb |
| 23:44.54 | redpand | I'm trying to use an Area Search, but I'm not even sure if I'm using it correctly, thank you Blizzard for minimal documentation, and it's not working in tests so far. |
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| 23:45.21 | SevenSeven | I'll bet blizzards documentation is going to be full of the basic crap we already know =\ |
| 23:45.43 | redpand | Yeah, the stuff that they put as tooltips everywhere... |
| 23:45.54 | Lyrrad | Have you tried an area search calling "Luanch Interceptor (Persistent)" as its effect? |
| 23:46.04 | SevenSeven | "This selection opens up the terrain layer, which allows you to view terrain!" |
| 23:46.33 | Twiner | I like the tool tips |
| 23:46.43 | onetwo | yeah the tooltips that ARE there are great |
| 23:46.46 | redpand | Yeah, I tried that first, and funny enough, they all sprang out from the carrier and gang raped 1 target at a time. |
| 23:46.53 | Twiner | they were helpful for me in the data editor |
| 23:46.54 | Deuce | the problem is the tool tips only exists for things I usually already know |
| 23:46.56 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/buildersandfighterstraditional/. Builders and Fighters Traditional. PyroStormer (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 23:47.04 | Deuce | when I see an item I don't understand, it usually doesn't have one |
| 23:47.05 | heysparky | I thought you had me ignored Martul |
| 23:47.05 | heysparky | haha |
| 23:47.13 | Twiner | redpand: are you making a custom unit? |
| 23:47.20 | Twiner | that launches fighters? |
| 23:47.34 | heysparky | you've never responded to anything else I said, even genuine questions |
| 23:47.37 | redpand | Right now I'm just modifying the carrier, until I get the effects that work. |
| 23:47.38 | Lyrrad | redpand - Did you leave the launch effect as default? |
| 23:47.54 | redpand | The magazine effect? |
| 23:48.00 | Lyrrad | the persistent |
| 23:48.07 | Twiner | sparky, were you playing that marine madness map? |
| 23:48.14 | Twiner | earlier today with PassivePicasso |
| 23:48.15 | heysparky | nossir |
| 23:48.20 | Twiner | ok |
| 23:48.28 | redpand | I've left it default and tried changing it. |
| 23:48.30 | Lyrrad | The persistent calls it to launch all 8 units, if you change it to 1 period, then it might work |
| 23:48.34 | heysparky | I've only helped rrowland test snipers and ...mmm...someone's missile command |
| 23:48.46 | redpand | hmmm... |
| 23:48.46 | Twiner | I mean |
| 23:48.57 | redpand | That's a good idea, let me try that! |
| 23:49.04 | Twiner | I know how you could make carriers that would launch vehicles that are independant, that when no units are found would return to the mothership |
| 23:49.17 | Twiner | you would just use like 2 or 3 triggers |
| 23:49.26 | Twiner | Ima try my idea right now |
| 23:49.40 | Lyrrad | Don't listen to Twiner, he is trying to lure you to the darkside |
| 23:49.41 | Martul | Blizzard needs to fix banks |
| 23:49.49 | Motive | Jesus |
| 23:49.50 | Motive | fucking |
| 23:49.50 | Motive | christ |
| 23:49.51 | Motive | banks |
| 23:49.52 | Motive | work |
| 23:49.52 | Motive | fine. |
| 23:49.59 | Motive | Go die in a hole. |
| 23:50.04 | Martul | no they don't |
| 23:50.04 | Nuknfuts | goddamnit i leave for 30 mins and he's still complaining? |
| 23:50.09 | heysparky | haha |
| 23:50.11 | Lyrrad | If the goverment can't fix the banks, what hope does blizzard have? |
| 23:50.12 | heysparky | 30 minutes? |
| 23:50.13 | Motive | they do, prove me wrong. |
| 23:50.14 | Motive | k? k |
| 23:50.15 | Nuknfuts | go work on your map so its even WORTH playing first then worry about banks |
| 23:50.15 | heysparky | that's just a warmup |
| 23:50.18 | redpand | hehe, don't you love that? So, are you an object editor or a trigger editor? |
| 23:50.20 | Martul | I open my bank, add data, save the bank. restart the map and the data in the map is gone |
| 23:50.31 | Motive | I open my bank |
| 23:50.33 | Motive | add data |
| 23:50.35 | Motive | save the bank |
| 23:50.36 | Motive | restart the map |
| 23:50.39 | Motive | and my data is there |
| 23:50.43 | Martul | wrong |
| 23:50.46 | Nuknfuts | i open my bank, looking at my checking account, and cry irl |
| 23:50.47 | Motive | no really, it works. |
| 23:50.55 | Nuknfuts | im going to go complain about it to the govt |
| 23:50.56 | Motive | I do that, too, Nuknfuts |
| 23:50.57 | Motive | LOL |
| 23:50.58 | Martul | I have tried so 20 times now and everytime is gone |
| 23:51.00 | Motive | But that's my own fault |
| 23:51.04 | Motive | not the govts xD |
| 23:51.11 | Lyrrad | Come on Motive, thats you imagining your data is there, learn to tell the difference |
| 23:52.10 | Lyrrad | Even Martul's data can't stand him and leaves as soon as it gets the chance |
| 23:52.18 | Motive | xD |
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| 23:53.04 | onetwo | hahahah lyrrad |
| 23:53.47 | Alpha_vst | wow lyrrad :D |
| 23:55.06 | redpand | my carrier is still attacking 1 unit at a time, hmm... |
| 23:55.30 | Lyrrad | you have the area search calling the modifed launch? |
| 23:55.33 | onetwo | Lyrrad like has a team of writers working in the back |
| 23:55.39 | redpand | yep |
| 23:56.01 | Lyrrad | Ah crap, my secret is out |
| 23:56.07 | heysparky | :D |
| 23:56.31 | redpand | oh, btw, do you know what the response flags and the search flags are all about? |
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| 23:56.57 | redpand | in the Area Search effect? |
| 23:57.05 | Martul | Blizzard needs to fix banks |
| 23:57.10 | onetwo | ahha fuck |
| 23:58.01 | heysparky | Fix them to what? |
| 23:58.20 | Martul | they don't save |
| 23:58.47 | heysparky | Oh... THAT kind of fix. Apparently they're not broken. That's what Motive said anyway. |
| 23:58.53 | Martul | when you reopen a bank after saving data to it its erased |
| 23:59.00 | Lyrrad | redpand - I would guess that the search effects effects what it is searching for |
| 23:59.09 | heysparky | I believe Motive, because he does more in chat than FREAKING complain |
| 23:59.11 | Martul | motive is full of shit |
| 23:59.21 | Motive | I am full of shit |
| 23:59.24 | Motive | I haven't taken a shit in a while. |
| 23:59.27 | Motive | Maybe I should. |
| 23:59.31 | Alpha_vst | might wanna do that |
| 23:59.40 | Alpha_vst | should go at least once a day |
| 23:59.44 | Motive | Well not like THAT long |
| 23:59.46 | Motive | I mean like |
| 23:59.52 | Motive | there's definitely shit inside of me though |
| 23:59.57 | Martul | I just did a test and banks aren't fucking saving |
