| 00:00.04 | Skizot | well you place a doodad for no fly. |
| 00:00.07 | nicoli_s | Martul: if you were going to put it in the Mods dir, it would need the mod its overwriting in its name |
| 00:00.14 | Skizot | i think it works for that ENTIRE cliff level. |
| 00:00.15 | nicoli_s | so like mods/liberty.sc2mod/ |
| 00:00.24 | nicoli_s | look in the patch files for how they do it |
| 00:00.42 | nicoli_s | oh nm see you already did that :P but try using liberty instead of core |
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| 00:01.27 | fatal510 | i put a no fly zone on the cliff and i can still fly over it.... just cant fly in that big circle it placed |
| 00:01.45 | Skizot | so place a line of them then. |
| 00:02.36 | fatal510 | gonna take years! |
| 00:02.36 | fatal510 | err i can copy and paste! |
| 00:02.36 | heysparky | if I make an array of strings and put words in there can I grab a word at random? |
| 00:02.57 | Lyrrad | yes |
| 00:03.03 | heysparky | like, use random int, then use switch statement to set the var? |
| 00:03.16 | Lyrrad | well, technically no, computers can't do random |
| 00:03.23 | heysparky | random ish |
| 00:03.28 | heysparky | I don't care if it's TRULY random |
| 00:03.58 | Lyrrad | get a random int, and use it as an index into the array |
| 00:04.03 | heysparky | nice |
| 00:04.05 | heysparky | that's cool |
| 00:04.17 | heysparky | intro to C paying off :D |
| 00:04.38 | heysparky | nevermind that it's for a bleeding cinematic |
| 00:04.45 | Lyrrad | should be no need of a switch statement |
| 00:05.08 | heysparky | oh... I can imbed the random int into the set var? |
| 00:05.19 | heysparky | very nice |
| 00:06.25 | Lyrrad | string word = ArrayName[Random()] |
| 00:06.29 | onetwo | hAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 00:06.30 | onetwo | hAHAHAHHAHA |
| 00:06.34 | heysparky | nice |
| 00:06.42 | onetwo | hahahahahha |
| 00:06.43 | onetwo | oh man |
| 00:06.45 | Reactorex | What, onetwo? |
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| 00:06.49 | onetwo | movement speed bonus |
| 00:06.51 | onetwo | is a multiplier |
| 00:06.56 | onetwo | not a physical number |
| 00:06.57 | onetwo | i set it to 20 |
| 00:06.59 | Reactorex | o.o |
| 00:07.01 | Reactorex | Uh oh. |
| 00:07.01 | onetwo | and i guess it means 20x |
| 00:07.03 | Reactorex | xD |
| 00:07.04 | onetwo | my zealot moved SO FAST |
| 00:07.06 | onetwo | i literally clicked |
| 00:07.08 | Reactorex | DUDE. |
| 00:07.09 | Reactorex | Um? |
| 00:07.10 | onetwo | and he zoomed to that spot |
| 00:07.12 | Reactorex | 20 IS fast. |
| 00:07.12 | onetwo | in < sec |
| 00:07.15 | Reactorex | >_> |
| 00:07.18 | onetwo | so fun |
| 00:07.20 | Reactorex | Try 8 :P |
| 00:07.21 | onetwo | i have to make a map with that |
| 00:07.25 | Reactorex | Or 1. |
| 00:07.26 | heysparky | lol |
| 00:07.29 | Reactorex | Yeah... try 1. |
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| 00:07.30 | onetwo | its so twitchy and quick |
| 00:07.38 | onetwo | ahaha man |
| 00:07.38 | Reactorex | My RPD is great for testing out unit speeds :P |
| 00:07.40 | onetwo | oh boy |
| 00:07.43 | Lyrrad | onetwo, there is 2 modifiers for speed that I have seen, one is multiple, the other is a fixed change |
| 00:07.44 | onetwo | nice reactorex |
| 00:07.45 | Reactorex | 160 seems to be max. |
| 00:07.48 | Reactorex | 160 or 140. |
| 00:07.49 | onetwo | ah |
| 00:07.51 | onetwo | 160 |
| 00:07.53 | onetwo | let me see |
| 00:07.58 | onetwo | oh man though |
| 00:08.00 | onetwo | this would be a fun map |
| 00:08.02 | onetwo | super-fast moving zealots |
| 00:08.45 | onetwo | weird |
| 00:08.47 | onetwo | movement speed bonus |
| 00:08.53 | onetwo | and movement speed multiplier are different fields |
| 00:08.57 | onetwo | yet making bonus 20 |
| 00:08.59 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.05 | onetwo | is maximum what i want reacotrex? |
| 00:09.08 | RickAx | most units have a speed of around 2 |
| 00:09.10 | onetwo | to change it on a number basis |
| 00:09.17 | RickAx | yours are going 10x as fast as normal |
| 00:09.17 | onetwo | oh wait |
| 00:09.17 | onetwo | 160 |
| 00:09.19 | onetwo | thats huge |
| 00:09.38 | onetwo | oh so |
| 00:09.39 | onetwo | 2 is default |
| 00:09.46 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:09.48 | onetwo | 20 |
| 00:09.52 | fatal510 | http://i.imgur.com/nmX0p.jpg is that the best way to stop units from flying over the yellow area-- a line of no fly zones? |
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| 00:10.07 | Kerotan | Anyone else having issues publishing there maps? (EU) |
| 00:10.28 | RickAx | fatal: yes |
| 00:10.33 | fatal510 | alrght :/ |
| 00:10.36 | fatal510 | alright* |
| 00:10.40 | RickAx | There's probably another good way, but it would suck equally as much |
| 00:10.52 | Lyrrad | Kero - It seems to be a common problem |
| 00:11.29 | Skizot | seems like it :( |
| 00:11.30 | Kerotan | Getting loads of diffrent errors |
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| 00:12.02 | Kerotan | Removed my variants and it worked, but then my map dosent work :S |
| 00:12.57 | Dustin | I need to test my map Multiplayer again |
| 00:13.00 | Dustin | Anyone wanna help? |
| 00:13.14 | Martul | not me |
| 00:13.32 | Lyrrad | Dustin I could help |
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| 00:13.36 | Martul | the whole override crap is pissing me off still |
| 00:14.31 | Lyrrad | I feel for you Martul, I had several marines complain to me yesterday that they couldn't access their e-mail because blizzard sucks and didn;t include an e-mail client |
| 00:15.16 | Kerotan | Anyway to clear your whole maps Data and set it to default? |
| 00:15.41 | Cromalic | hi all |
| 00:15.43 | Cromalic | ! |
| 00:15.54 | onetwo | man i love the new organization of data |
| 00:15.55 | onetwo | fields |
| 00:15.57 | onetwo | for units |
| 00:15.58 | onetwo | and veterancy |
| 00:15.59 | Reactorex | My zergling wasn't eligible to receive health benefits and croaked at me all day. |
| 00:16.01 | onetwo | just finally getting into it more |
| 00:16.03 | AsaPhelps | Lyrrad or anyone want to help me test my map? |
| 00:16.03 | Reactorex | I understand what you mean. |
| 00:16.05 | onetwo | since patch 13 |
| 00:16.14 | Reactorex | It's tough in SC2, ain't it? |
| 00:16.21 | Lyrrad | Kero - you could just go in and filter so that it only shows modifed data and delete it all |
| 00:16.24 | fatal510 | ill help you dustin |
| 00:16.33 | AsaPhelps | I'll help dustin |
| 00:16.38 | Dustin | k, getting ready to publish |
| 00:16.44 | AsaPhelps | IF someone wants to help me test mine after |
| 00:16.55 | AsaPhelps | No wonder my map was broken |
| 00:16.58 | AsaPhelps | The size was 666 KB |
| 00:17.01 | fatal510 | when did they change the data editor |
| 00:17.13 | fatal510 | instead of a big table you have a new tabbed view |
| 00:17.14 | Lyrrad | patch 13 |
| 00:17.17 | fatal510 | oh |
| 00:17.23 | Lyrrad | I hate the new view |
| 00:17.25 | fatal510 | kinda like it |
| 00:17.28 | Kerotan | Table view is horrible :S |
| 00:17.37 | Lyrrad | first thing I did was reset it to the table |
| 00:17.39 | Reactorex | I'l test. |
| 00:17.40 | fatal510 | make it easier for some stuff |
| 00:17.43 | Kerotan | Cant find anything, but then again you never could. |
| 00:17.47 | fatal510 | tho it took me a year to find the field to change a unit name |
| 00:17.53 | Reactorex | I'm done trying at this stuff. |
| 00:18.06 | Cromalic | you guys know that effect which causes dust to spread out from your feet? (like landing after a jump) |
| 00:18.10 | Cromalic | i saw a map that had this |
| 00:18.18 | Skizot | my map? |
| 00:18.19 | Cromalic | anyone know what effect that is? |
| 00:18.20 | Skizot | lol |
| 00:18.23 | Cromalic | was it? :) |
| 00:18.25 | Skizot | burrowup |
| 00:18.26 | heysparky | lol Reactorex... it is tough in SC2 |
| 00:18.30 | Cromalic | burrowup! |
| 00:18.31 | Cromalic | ofc |
| 00:18.40 | Cromalic | thanks Skizot :d |
| 00:18.44 | Skizot | :) |
| 00:19.00 | Lyrrad | well I am going in game if anyone needs me to help them test |
| 00:19.07 | fatal510 | anyone know how much 1 armor reduces damage by? |
| 00:19.08 | Kerotan | I feel sorry for the guys making the offical campaign.. must be a pain working with the editor.. |
| 00:19.21 | RickAx | Lyrrad, I don't need help testing but I need help for ideas for me to code so I can test them. |
| 00:19.23 | onetwo | i LOVE the new view |
| 00:19.26 | onetwo | so muc heasier |
| 00:19.27 | onetwo | much |
| 00:19.29 | onetwo | and veterancy stuff stacks |
| 00:19.30 | onetwo | now |
| 00:19.36 | RickAx | fatal: 1 armor reduces 1 damage |
| 00:19.46 | fatal510 | is there a way to change that? |
| 00:19.49 | RickAx | Yes |
| 00:19.50 | onetwo | if i set strength attribute to one on my first veterancy levels |
| 00:19.52 | onetwo | and then copy paste |
| 00:19.55 | onetwo | 5 more levels |
| 00:20.01 | RickAx | But only on effects, not on the armor |
| 00:20.03 | onetwo | it treats it as adding 1 strength each level |
| 00:20.06 | onetwo | not setting to 1 |
| 00:20.06 | fatal510 | oh |
| 00:20.08 | onetwo | as it was before |
| 00:20.17 | Lyrrad | Fatal - Each weapon has a field that tells it how it is effected by armour |
| 00:20.22 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:20.33 | Lyrrad | so you can either increase or decrease the effect of armour |
| 00:21.18 | Martul | looks like it is impossible to override files in the mpq then |
| 00:21.21 | Lyrrad | It is on the damage effect for the weapon, and is called "Armor Reduction" |
| 00:21.33 | Dustin | What files are you trying to override and why? |
| 00:24.22 | AsaPhelps | So I need 2+ testers for my map, anyone want to try it |
| 00:24.34 | fatal510 | sure |
| 00:24.35 | Martul | pass |
| 00:24.44 | AsaPhelps | are you on US fatal? |
| 00:24.51 | fatal510 | yes |
| 00:25.00 | Dustin | My shits stuck at 74% Complete on publishing... |
| 00:25.19 | fatal510 | stinky |
| 00:25.24 | Martul | Chuck Norris gets 1000% |
| 00:25.37 | Ferr- | erm, how do i add an extra charge to an Item that can have up to X charges, through a trigger |
| 00:25.38 | Ferr- | ? |
| 00:25.52 | heysparky | http://shirt.woot.com/blog/viewentry.aspx?id=12400 |
| 00:26.16 | fatal510 | i need a Ronald McDonald model |
| 00:26.46 | fatal510 | and a Bob the Builder! |
| 00:26.51 | RickAx | Add charge regen for unit ability? |
| 00:26.52 | heysparky | I don't know charges and items Ferr, but I bet someone does |
| 00:27.48 | Ferr- | but it's an item, not an ability O_o |
| 00:27.57 | Dustin | Why the fuck does it keep failing |
| 00:28.09 | Dustin | What's this header is corrupt BS |
| 00:28.14 | fatal510 | blizzard hates you |
| 00:28.15 | AsaPhelps | whats your map variants |
| 00:28.16 | fatal510 | remake the whole map |
| 00:28.18 | fatal510 | go! |
| 00:28.47 | Dustin | I set my map variants to have custom teams and then set up the palyer slots |
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| 00:29.15 | Ferr- | "Add Charge regen" thing takes a Real and a string... wtf? O_o |
| 00:29.46 | Lyrrad | The amount, and probably ability ID |
| 00:32.14 | Ferr- | still not an ability :p |
| 00:32.47 | Lyrrad | maybe Item ID then |
| 00:33.17 | Ferr- | Which would be what? Item/HealthKit (in my case)? |
| 00:33.33 | Lyrrad | It would be whatever you set it to |
| 00:33.52 | heysparky | Dustin, I heard something in chat the other day about that not working... |
| 00:33.53 | Reactorex | onetwo, you online? |
| 00:33.58 | heysparky | don;t recall who was talking about it |
| 00:34.18 | Lyrrad | I haven't done much with charged items, but you might be able to just add more items, I believe there is a way to make them stack |
| 00:35.06 | Ferr- | there's no easy way from what i've read so far :p |
| 00:35.14 | Ferr- | hm |
| 00:35.37 | Lyrrad | I didn;t say it would be easy :-) |
| 00:35.39 | Ferr- | now starts looping forever and adds 1 to the stack continously :p |
| 00:37.04 | onetwo | sorry was afk |
| 00:37.05 | onetwo | whats up |
| 00:37.46 | Reactorex | I've got something you might find useful. :P |
| 00:37.50 | onetwo | wha? |
| 00:37.51 | Reactorex | If you're on BNet, I'll run you through it. |
| 00:38.00 | onetwo | ill go sign in |
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| 00:38.37 | Verr82 | how do you remove the "kills" and "rank" text from a unit's UI? |
| 00:39.23 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r86 Tools/SC2MapEditor (16 files in 5 directories): |
| 00:39.25 | Repo | re-enabled auto complete, still need to parse more map functions + other stuff |
| 00:39.42 | nicoli_s | Zoxc: respond more often, need you to add some stuff to legion |
| 00:40.23 | Skizot | lol |
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| 00:40.44 | Sickill | hello? |
| 00:40.46 | AsaPhelps | what propety determines the white circle thing |
| 00:41.16 | Reactorex | Hi! |
| 00:41.35 | AsaPhelps | Hi |
| 00:41.51 | Sickill | Is this the best way to view this chat? by the webchat? |
| 00:41.51 | Zoxc | nicoli_s: This channel is 99% spam, you'd be better to contact me elsewhere |
| 00:42.08 | wacko | lol |
| 00:42.14 | nicoli_s | join #MWE |
| 00:42.37 | nicoli_s | it is kinda what i made it for :P |
| 00:44.09 | nicoli_s | lol zoxc, asking you to join got multiple people to join but not you :) |
| 00:45.31 | Dustin | Damnit |
| 00:45.37 | Dustin | How are we souposed to set teams |
| 00:50.17 | Reactorex | Game Variants, Dustin. |
| 00:50.32 | onetwo | reactorex's RPD map is fun :D |
| 00:50.40 | Reactorex | Thanks :P |
| 00:50.47 | Kerotan | Is there anyway to use a footprint but still have the unit turnable? |
| 00:50.51 | ekcolnovkol | how do effects on units from players work? |
| 00:50.53 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 00:50.56 | Martul | :'( |
| 00:51.00 | ekcolnovkol | q-q |
| 00:51.05 | Reactorex | T_T. |
| 00:51.13 | ekcolnovkol | Q.Q |
| 00:53.25 | Dustin | Yes I know Game Variants |
| 00:53.38 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lativ-station/. Lativ Station. ScrappyD2o (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 00:53.39 | Kerotan | No one knows how to work turnable footprints :( |
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| 00:53.55 | Dustin | im talking about them not working right and giving me some corrupted header or some bullshi |
| 00:54.02 | Sozer | hey all |
| 00:54.10 | Reactorex | Use (Game) Teams = Custom Teams (Locked) |
| 00:54.23 | Reactorex | And then under (Player) Teams [Custom Teams], specify the teams they're on. |
| 00:54.32 | Dustin | Ya no |
| 00:54.33 | Reactorex | And optionally unlocked if you want to move it around. |
| 00:54.36 | Dustin | that corrupted my header |
| 00:54.46 | Reactorex | Yeah no, I'm using it right now. |
| 00:54.50 | Sozer | can someone help me a sec |
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| 00:55.00 | Dustin | Uhhh |
| 00:55.03 | Reactorex | And I have no corrupted header. |
| 00:55.09 | Dustin | Funny cause so am I and it doesnt work |
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| 00:55.18 | mosaicpao | hello everyone! |
| 00:55.21 | Sozer | pm mmeeee quick trigger question |
| 00:55.40 | Reactorex | You're using SPECIFICALLY Custom Teams? |
| 00:55.44 | Reactorex | Not 2 Teams, etc.? |
| 00:56.02 | Dustin | I was, changed it to 4v4 then changed teams premade to 4v4 and set the slots there |
| 00:56.06 | Dustin | Now it's working |
| 00:56.46 | Sozer | how do you command a unit to move between regions or points for defence map pathing |
| 00:56.47 | Dustin | anyone want to test it out with me? Need to check for bugs |
| 00:58.01 | mosaicpao | where can we report the bugs that occur at the editor? |
| 00:58.03 | Xapti | Anyone know of a way to remove hotkeys like spacebar, right click, and backspace? |
| 00:58.23 | Dustin | I wish I could get rid of the damned spacebar hotkey |
| 00:58.29 | Dustin | I tried UI disable hotkeys |
| 00:58.32 | Dustin | But that didnt do shit |
| 00:58.50 | Xapti | those are probably like the ability hotkeys |
| 00:59.19 | Sozer | ya hotkeys tied with the 12 slot ui grid |
| 00:59.37 | Dustin | I checked everywhere and didnt see anything else related to it |
| 01:00.42 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/Game-Teams.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/Player-TeamsCustomTeams.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/InPublishedList.png |
| 01:01.14 | Sozer | in sc1 editor there was a trigger action called 'command' that used syntax '(move or attack) (# of units in location) to (location) what is the simular action in sc2? |
| 01:01.21 | wacko | okay Reactorex |
| 01:01.26 | wacko | what does that have to do anything |
| 01:02.11 | Reactorex | Whether or not I received a corrupted header with that game variant data. |
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| 01:02.24 | wacko | ok |
| 01:02.35 | wacko | if you have the value set or not ? |
| 01:02.37 | Xapti | I can't believe that i made a trigger that switches target to the closest unit to the target, when that wasn't even the functionality I wanted, lol |
| 01:02.37 | Dustin | Sozer just issue a Move order to point |
| 01:02.40 | wacko | for custom teams ? |
| 01:02.44 | Reactorex | That's the only value under Teams that I can set it to without a corrupted header. |
| 01:03.11 | Reactorex | That and (None), of course. |
| 01:03.38 | wacko | let me look |
| 01:03.44 | wacko | those should be valid |
| 01:03.50 | wacko | as the blizzard maps use the other options |
| 01:04.07 | Reactorex | Using 2 Teams, 3 Teams, 4 Teams, 5 Teams, 6 Teams, and FFA, I received corrupted header errors upon upload. |
| 01:05.06 | Reactorex | Premade never gave me problems, though. |
| 01:06.00 | Reactorex | Only the non-premade teams values. |
| 01:06.38 | Reactorex | If I wanted a single team of 7 players and to be locked like that, I'd be screwed with the 4v4 option, although I could modify the alliance and it not make a difference in the world once you get in-game. |
| 01:07.05 | fatal510 | got a simple question |
| 01:07.08 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r87 Tools/SC2MapEditor (2 files in 2 directories): removed project refs to m3parse whoops my bad |
| 01:07.33 | onetwo | hi mosaic |
| 01:08.20 | fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.31 | fatal510 | what do i need to set the "player" to? |
| 01:08.50 | Sozer | is there an event simular to the sc1 event "always" |
| 01:09.30 | fatal510 | i dont understand why this wont work |
| 01:09.31 | fatal510 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.34 | Sozer | for triggers in bounds like Always - Issue order to units at this region to kill. |
| 01:10.21 | Cornelius|Food | HOW DO I MAKE MAPS |
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| 01:10.55 | Reactorex | Cornelius: Feed your dog. |
| 01:11.06 | Reactorex | Awh, he left. xD |
| 01:12.49 | Ferr- | hahahhha |
| 01:12.50 | Ferr- | it works! |
| 01:12.53 | Ferr- | stackable items! |
| 01:12.54 | Xapti | Anyone know how you change the target of an ability so that it's automatically at a point |
| 01:13.03 | Xapti | (or unit) |
| 01:13.10 | Xapti | as opposed to having to have the user select the unit |
| 01:13.26 | onetwo | how so ferr |
| 01:13.30 | onetwo | what method did you use? |
| 01:13.33 | mosaicpao | hey! can anyone tell me how to combine the model to that actor? |
| 01:13.49 | Ferr- | by using 1 trigger per stackable item per shop :p |
| 01:13.54 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:14.01 | onetwo | thgouht you did it through data editor |
| 01:14.02 | Sickill | anyone know a good bsp tutorial for galaxy editor? |
| 01:14.03 | onetwo | hey fatal that should work |
| 01:14.14 | Ferr- | nah, data editor can't do crap with stacking -.- |
| 01:14.47 | Ferr- | however i got a neat system for shop targetting like in WC3 as well |
| 01:15.51 | Ferr- | is there any visual arrows or something that you can put on a unit from a trigger? |
| 01:16.42 | onetwo | none i found that are good |
| 01:16.43 | Skizot | i could make one. |
| 01:16.47 | onetwo | no models |
| 01:16.48 | onetwo | i could find |
| 01:17.07 | onetwo | and sorry mosaic i cant answer that Q |
| 01:17.11 | onetwo | atleast not yet |
| 01:17.45 | Ferr- | hm okay |
| 01:18.05 | Skizot | ... |
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| 01:19.27 | Skizot | fine then... DON'T ask. |
| 01:19.57 | Ferr- | ? |
| 01:20.05 | Skizot | <+Skizot> i could make one. |
| 01:20.15 | Reactorex | I've got something interesting coming up... |
| 01:20.20 | Sozer | when issuing orders to units in a region... does units attached to region mean the same that as a unit in a region or is there some specification to attaching a unit to a region |
| 01:20.22 | heysparky | how do you issue attack move with triggers? is it a different ability? |
| 01:20.35 | Skizot | no.. |
| 01:20.43 | Skizot | you order them to attack a point. |
| 01:20.45 | Ferr- | ah, sry xD |
| 01:20.49 | Lyrrad | I think its still an Issue order targing point |
| 01:21.08 | onetwo | heyspark |
| 01:21.08 | Ferr- | no ty, don't want to start importing custom models |
| 01:21.09 | onetwo | y |
| 01:21.10 | onetwo | you click |
| 01:21.12 | onetwo | the bracket |
| 01:21.13 | heysparky | ty skizot |
| 01:21.17 | onetwo | before the Ability Command |
| 01:21.23 | onetwo | and change it to order targeting a point |
| 01:21.26 | onetwo | then click ok |
| 01:21.32 | onetwo | and click Ability Command now |
| 01:21.36 | heysparky | ty onetwo |
| 01:21.41 | onetwo | and make it attack |
| 01:21.46 | ekcolnovkol | how do i heal units in a zone u_u |
| 01:21.52 | heysparky | and lyrrad |
| 01:21.54 | onetwo | unit - pick each unit in unit group |
| 01:22.00 | onetwo | set unit group to units in region matching condition |
| 01:22.05 | onetwo | then inside that |
| 01:22.11 | onetwo | unit - set property |
| 01:22.12 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.16 | onetwo | err |
| 01:22.20 | onetwo | make the unit be picked unit |
| 01:22.25 | onetwo | set property of that picked unit |
| 01:22.28 | onetwo | to = arithmetic |
| 01:22.33 | ekcolnovkol | i'll give it a try |
| 01:22.52 | onetwo | arithmetic is of: unit (current) life of picked unit + w/e amount |
| 01:22.54 | onetwo | you want to heal |
| 01:23.03 | onetwo | hey so has anyone done heroes in data editor |
| 01:23.09 | Sozer | i cant pick the unit specifically because the unit im wanting to issue an order to was created with a trigger |
| 01:23.10 | onetwo | im trying to make zealot charge have multiple levels |
| 01:23.20 | onetwo | you can Sozer |
| 01:23.33 | onetwo | if you store it in a global var |
| 01:24.01 | onetwo | or pick it from Unit - Unit from Unit group |
| 01:24.22 | onetwo | and then make it pick unit 1 (im assuming you only have 1 of said unit), and unit group make it unit in regions matching condition |
| 01:24.27 | onetwo | and then you can pick unit type in here |
| 01:24.28 | onetwo | there* |
| 01:24.30 | onetwo | or w/e else you need |
| 01:24.35 | onetwo | now has anyone done heroes |
| 01:24.35 | ekcolnovkol | :T |
| 01:25.00 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/1696-data-wc3-esque-hero-ability-training/ this tutorial is great |
| 01:25.01 | onetwo | BUT |
| 01:25.06 | onetwo | doesnt show how to do multiple levels of abilities |
| 01:25.13 | onetwo | like if you train stimpack once |
| 01:25.15 | onetwo | thats it |
| 01:25.23 | onetwo | at level 3 you cant get the 2nd level |
| 01:25.29 | Reactorex | Here comes a large paste of images.... |
| 01:26.45 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerproperties.png |
| 01:26.50 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerproperties.png |
| 01:26.51 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerproperties.png |
| 01:26.56 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerproperties.png |
| 01:26.58 | Dustin | dude wtf |
| 01:27.00 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerproperties.png |
| 01:27.07 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/7playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/8playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/9playerproperties.png |
| 01:27.08 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/10playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/10playerproperties.png |
| 01:27.09 | Reactorex | http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/11playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/11playerproperties.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/12playerpublishing.png http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/Net_C/12playerproperties.png |
| 01:27.11 | onetwo | what the |
| 01:27.15 | onetwo | what is going on |
| 01:27.21 | Reactorex | Just my finds. |
| 01:27.22 | Martul | :( |
| 01:27.26 | Martul | damn blizzard |
| 01:27.36 | Reactorex | I was only able to publish with 7 players. 8 and up gave a default values incorrect. |
| 01:27.42 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:27.53 | Motive | I published with 14. |
| 01:27.53 | Motive | o_o |
| 01:27.58 | Motive | 15 on another map I think. |
| 01:27.59 | Martul | Why the hell did they have to prevent file overriding over files in the mpq? |
| 01:28.01 | onetwo | i did with 12 |
| 01:28.05 | onetwo | as we all know |
| 01:28.23 | Reactorex | Mhm. |
| 01:28.34 | Reactorex | But for one reason or another, I can't publish with more than 7. |
| 01:28.45 | wacko | stop spamming :P |
| 01:29.01 | Reactorex | Who, me? xD |
| 01:29.03 | wacko | yes |
| 01:29.11 | wacko | it will be fixed :P I am sure they know |
| 01:29.23 | Reactorex | I hope they know. |
| 01:29.56 | onetwo | so |
| 01:29.58 | onetwo | anyone done heroes |
| 01:29.58 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:30.02 | Motive | It's all hosted on their end. They probably have log files with every recorded failure/why/and the map that failed. |
| 01:30.22 | Martul | Why the hell did they have to prevent file overriding over files in the mpq? |
| 01:30.42 | Reactorex | And you said I was spamming. >_> |
| 01:30.47 | Reactorex | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.57 | Sozer | under unit from unit group there is a value called the index... is that the ammount of units int he group? |
| 01:31.06 | Motive | no |
| 01:31.13 | onetwo | no its the index |
| 01:31.16 | Motive | xD |
| 01:31.17 | onetwo | so if you went units from unit group |
| 01:31.23 | Motive | index always relates to arrays |
| 01:31.24 | onetwo | all units in map of type zealot |
| 01:31.26 | onetwo | if there was 2 |
| 01:31.30 | onetwo | it would be 1 and 2 |
| 01:31.37 | onetwo | generally leave it as 1 |
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| 01:31.43 | onetwo | if you know only 1 of the unit type will be in the map |
| 01:31.50 | onetwo | like if you wanted to pick the only zealot on the map |
| 01:31.53 | onetwo | just leave it as 1 |
| 01:31.56 | JCup | onetwo i made a little test map when i first started I devoted it pretty much towards learning heroes |
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| 01:32.05 | onetwo | okay jcup |
| 01:32.09 | onetwo | i have a pretty good working hero |
| 01:32.11 | onetwo | just one issue |
| 01:32.12 | JCup | It has Veterancy leveling spells attributes |
| 01:32.18 | Reactorex | Oh. |
| 01:32.21 | onetwo | i took zealot charge |
| 01:32.26 | Reactorex | Neat little thing, maybe. |
| 01:32.29 | onetwo | and made it learnable through the "Learn" Ability |
| 01:32.33 | Reactorex | Anyone else have this error? |
| 01:32.34 | onetwo | but then at level 3 |
| 01:32.41 | Reactorex | I always get default values incorrect if I attempt to modify the Hostile player. |
| 01:32.45 | onetwo | but how would i make a level 2 charge |
| 01:32.50 | AsaPhelps | Anyone want to help me test my map? |
| 01:32.53 | onetwo | trainable |
| 01:32.59 | Reactorex | I'll help. |
| 01:33.05 | JCup | hmm |
| 01:33.10 | AsaPhelps | whats your email |
| 01:33.21 | Martul | Why the hell did they have to prevent file overriding of files in the mpq? |
| 01:33.25 | JCup | Well a validator |
| 01:33.35 | JCup | or requirement |
| 01:33.35 | AsaPhelps | are we friends already? D: |
| 01:35.27 | Dustin | Martul stfu already |
| 01:36.20 | fatal510 | alright so how do i reveal the map for each player without making a action for each player |
| 01:36.49 | Ferr- | how do you issue an order to make a unit permanently follow another unit from a trigger? |
| 01:36.51 | JCup | Can u access veterancy through requirements? |
| 01:37.09 | onetwo | not sure |
| 01:37.17 | onetwo | well jcup everything works fine for just one zealot charge |
| 01:37.27 | onetwo | but like do i have to make a new ability for level 2 |
| 01:37.29 | onetwo | and level 3 |
| 01:37.30 | onetwo | etc |
| 01:37.41 | JCup | nono |
| 01:37.47 | onetwo | cause i want to lower cooldown |
| 01:37.48 | onetwo | each level |
| 01:37.54 | onetwo | but i cant see a way in zealot - charge |
| 01:37.55 | onetwo | to just do this |
| 01:37.56 | JCup | just add another cooldown |
| 01:38.02 | JCup | it makes the spell have 2 levels |
| 01:38.11 | onetwo | ? |
| 01:38.13 | JCup | makes duplicates of the first level values |
| 01:38.19 | JCup | and change what you want |
| 01:38.22 | JCup | for the next level |
| 01:39.03 | fatal510 | has anyone made a TD with an anti blocker that i can steal |
| 01:39.03 | JCup | Likes for Cooldown - Time Use 5.000|2.500 |
| 01:39.48 | JCup | Fatal510 have a unit walk through the players maze with a high attack every few seconds order it to walk to the destination again if it gets stuck it will stop and attack |
| 01:40.00 | Twiner | so theres no way to do hotkeys without using the key pressed event? |
| 01:40.06 | Twiner | on dialogs? |
| 01:40.16 | JCup | Pretty sure Twiner x.x |
| 01:40.35 | Ferr- | ty for the help, nn |
| 01:41.14 | JCup | and fatal510 since you repeat the move order it will continue to try and walk through after attacking |
| 01:41.29 | JCup | Its harsh blocking rule but it will stop players nonetheless |
| 01:41.29 | fatal510 | alright |
| 01:41.33 | NeoDeathXp | hey guys! |
| 01:41.37 | JCup | Hai |
| 01:41.45 | Skizot | hey neo |
| 01:41.48 | onetwo | hi |
| 01:41.51 | Skizot | that file work out for ya? |
| 01:41.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan.W.Ro@pool-71-103-175-254.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:42.00 | Twiner | wow |
| 01:42.01 | Twiner | thats a bug |
| 01:42.05 | Reactorex | onetwo: % complete on infection? xD |
| 01:42.10 | JCup | onetwo did u figure it out? |
| 01:42.16 | NeoDeathXp | it was great accrually thank you, i was doing some animation on it |
| 01:42.20 | onetwo | i havent yet |
| 01:42.21 | onetwo | one sec |
| 01:42.26 | onetwo | reactorex i havent done anything yet |
| 01:42.27 | Skizot | :) |
| 01:42.36 | onetwo | jcup im looking at Zealot Charge ability |
| 01:42.37 | onetwo | lets start there |
| 01:42.43 | Skizot | so are you shipping the CE or am i picking it up? lol |
| 01:42.45 | Twiner | so |
| 01:43.03 | NeoDeathXp | i wish the importer did aniimation i would finish all her animations and do a tech demo |
| 01:43.14 | Skizot | the importer DOES do animation |
| 01:43.22 | Skizot | the EXPORTER doesn't |
| 01:43.23 | NeoDeathXp | ?!?! |
| 01:43.28 | NeoDeathXp | waaat! |
| 01:43.34 | NeoDeathXp | the .m3? |
| 01:43.42 | Skizot | that's exporting |
| 01:43.43 | Skizot | :P |
| 01:43.46 | NeoDeathXp | ru serius right now |
| 01:43.51 | NeoDeathXp | o |
| 01:43.54 | Skizot | when you IMPORT a model. |
| 01:44.00 | NeoDeathXp | i ment importing to the game |
| 01:44.06 | Skizot | that's exporting lol |
| 01:44.10 | NeoDeathXp | o lol |
| 01:44.15 | NeoDeathXp | thats what i need |
| 01:44.23 | Skizot | me too. |
| 01:44.23 | Sozer | +1 to onetwo! |
| 01:44.24 | NeoDeathXp | it would be pimp |
| 01:44.48 | onetwo | okay JCup |
| 01:44.50 | onetwo | http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2930/chargel.jpg |
| 01:44.53 | onetwo | thats zealot charge |
| 01:44.58 | onetwo | how do i make it have 2 levels for instance |
| 01:45.02 | Twiner | huh |
| 01:45.05 | onetwo | one with 10 sec cooldown |
| 01:45.09 | onetwo | one with 5 sec cooldown |
| 01:45.11 | Twiner | for some reaosn n my map, if you shift right click, it crashes the game... |
| 01:45.33 | JCup | U know how u can add a second cooldown? |
| 01:45.39 | onetwo | i dont |
| 01:45.42 | onetwo | and im not sure how i do it |
| 01:45.46 | Xapti | quick question... Where the heck do I find whether an ability targets a point or a unit (or both?) |
| 01:45.48 | onetwo | where do i go? |
| 01:45.49 | JCup | Well where you change the first one |
| 01:45.49 | Xapti | I can't seem to find it |
| 01:46.02 | JCup | You click the green button the right of the box |
| 01:46.06 | JCup | and make a new one |
| 01:46.52 | JCup | Do the same for the rest of the cooldown stuff and you will have a second level to your spell |
| 01:47.36 | onetwo | oh? |
| 01:47.39 | onetwo | heres where first one is |
| 01:47.40 | onetwo | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8975/charge2m.jpg |
| 01:47.47 | onetwo | Time use 10 |
| 01:47.53 | onetwo | somewhere there is the button for 2nd level? |
| 01:48.22 | onetwo | Add? |
| 01:48.55 | JCup | o.O Augments weird |
| 01:49.01 | JCup | Its there for the other spells |
| 01:49.08 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:49.11 | onetwo | so augments just a weirdo |
| 01:49.12 | onetwo | hmm |
| 01:49.27 | JCup | yeah if u look at other spells |
| 01:49.37 | JCup | U can add multiple cooldowns |
| 01:50.16 | onetwo | OH |
| 01:50.17 | onetwo | i see other spells |
| 01:50.20 | onetwo | have like lists |
| 01:50.22 | onetwo | and indexes |
| 01:50.28 | onetwo | under cost |
| 01:50.38 | JCup | :D yeah |
| 01:50.52 | onetwo | so what if you had a damage ability |
| 01:50.57 | onetwo | and wanted it to do more damage each level |
| 01:51.00 | onetwo | you can have multiple effects |
| 01:51.03 | onetwo | but how would this work |
| 01:51.06 | onetwo | with regards to leveling |
| 01:51.07 | onetwo | do you know? |
| 01:52.03 | Xapti | I can't seem to remember where abilities have their target info (point or unit) |
| 01:52.06 | JCup | U just add multiple damage effects |
| 01:52.08 | JCup | I beleive |
| 01:52.11 | Xapti | where is it? |
| 01:52.12 | JCup | Thats what I did |
| 01:52.14 | onetwo | and itll pick them in order? |
| 01:52.21 | JCup | yup |
| 01:52.24 | onetwo | oh nice |
| 01:52.26 | onetwo | thanks again jcup |
| 01:52.29 | onetwo | and xapti i dont know |
| 01:52.29 | onetwo | brb |
| 01:52.36 | JCup | np :D |
| 01:53.35 | Dustin | Skizot |
| 01:53.39 | Skizot | wut? |
| 01:53.44 | Dustin | Whats the dimensions on your load screen |
| 01:54.57 | JCup | oh and u just use requirements for level requirement and once the spell is fully leveled :D |
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| 01:55.43 | elmstfreddie | hello all |
| 01:55.57 | onetwo | im trying to avoid requirements as much as possible |
| 01:56.00 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:56.05 | onetwo | i like the Learn ability |
| 01:56.08 | onetwo | it takkes care of alot |
| 01:56.17 | onetwo | reactorex must hate that sentence |
| 01:56.19 | onetwo | takes* |
| 01:56.20 | onetwo | a lot* |
| 01:56.44 | onetwo | I guess zealot charge is unlevelable |
| 01:56.46 | onetwo | or augments |
| 01:56.47 | onetwo | i mean |
| 01:57.19 | Sozer | man i cant get this to work |
| 01:58.45 | JCup | yeah idk why charge is retarded |
| 01:58.52 | JCup | U could make ur own |
| 01:59.01 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sickill (~4ce96821@gateway/web/freenode/x-rgepmahcegepybqw) |
| 01:59.04 | JCup | Effect Target ability |
| 01:59.09 | onetwo | hmm |
| 01:59.12 | JCup | Give yourself a buff with speed |
| 01:59.16 | JCup | Order Attack |
| 01:59.34 | onetwo | would require recreating charge in a weird manner i guess |
| 01:59.38 | elmstfreddie | Eh guys, how do people make those nice progress bars? When I use a progress bar dialogue item, it uh... it's pixelised as heck, and, just ugly. Not the same one that others use, or so I believe o.o; how do people make them look like boss bar progress bars (but clearly not) |
| 01:59.50 | onetwo | sizing i believe |
| 01:59.51 | JCup | dont use progress bar |
| 01:59.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-247-67.dsl.mweb.co.za) |
| 01:59.55 | JCup | Use images |
| 01:59.56 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:59.59 | JCup | Images can be scaled |
| 02:00.12 | elmstfreddie | Okay, what image should I use then? |
| 02:00.12 | JCup | They look 20x better |
| 02:00.21 | JCup | search for bars |
| 02:00.22 | JCup | or w.e |
| 02:00.26 | JCup | u will find one |
| 02:00.27 | elmstfreddie | Okay thanks. |
| 02:00.30 | JCup | np |
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| 02:01.39 | Xapti | achk, annoying bug |
| 02:02.01 | Xapti | "order unit to perform ability on unit" won't work unless the aiblity targets ONLY units, not unit OR point |
| 02:03.01 | elmstfreddie | Yeah; the image thing is exactly what I was looking for. Danke |
| 02:03.16 | fatal510 | JCup how were you saying i should do the anti blocker unit? |
| 02:05.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ResNet-9-170.resnet.ucsb.edu) |
| 02:05.27 | RickA | Anti blocker? |
| 02:05.31 | JCup | Make a unit with a high attack(Aoe if u want) Now spawn it at the enemy spawn every round or w.e then order it to move to the enemy destination have a periodic event saying move every 3-5 seconds or less depending on your spells cooldown etc then when the unit realizes it cant make it through a players maze it will stop and attack but when the periodic event kicks in again it will atttempt to move through it again and if it cant |
| 02:06.13 | JCup | An aoe attack makes quick easy work of it :P |
| 02:06.54 | fatal510 | hmm |
| 02:07.06 | JCup | I would aim to have your periodic event to tick at about the length of the cooldown of your antiblockers attack speed so it only attacks once |
| 02:07.12 | AsaPhelps | rofl |
| 02:07.14 | Reactorex | I call for a rematch with the proper game mode selected. |
| 02:07.15 | Reactorex | :P |
| 02:07.20 | AsaPhelps | lucky nuke went after my commander |
| 02:07.31 | AsaPhelps | that was funny |
| 02:07.36 | Reactorex | I launched OVER NINE THOUSAND volleys. |
| 02:07.39 | Reactorex | Shh. :) |
| 02:07.39 | AsaPhelps | you won AND lost |
| 02:07.51 | Reactorex | I had an income of over nine thousand, though. |
| 02:07.53 | elmstfreddie | Eh JCup, how would I give that progress bar image a border? Or do I just have to get it to fit nicely into a dialogue? |
| 02:07.54 | Reactorex | That's no joke :P |
| 02:07.58 | AsaPhelps | I need to look at my allies and stuff, maybe I did them wrong |
| 02:08.08 | Reactorex | It's prob. cause you used custom. |
| 02:08.12 | Reactorex | And not Missile Command. |
| 02:08.40 | JCup | U can had dialogues background which hides the dialogue but not the items in it then you can use other images to border it or just fit it nice in snug in the dialogue |
| 02:08.46 | JCup | had = hide* |
| 02:08.51 | onetwo | nice JCup i made a blink with 5 levels |
| 02:08.53 | onetwo | eventually 0 cooldown |
| 02:08.55 | onetwo | worked nicely |
| 02:09.01 | JCup | Yay :D |
| 02:09.08 | elmstfreddie | hmm yeah I know I've been trying to fit it snugly, just.. ugh. lol, It's not a nice round number :( |
| 02:09.09 | onetwo | now to figure out how to disable alternate levels |
| 02:09.10 | onetwo | like war3 had |
| 02:09.31 | JCup | onetwo it requires requirements x.x lol |
| 02:09.41 | JCup | Im toying with it lol its a challenge |
| 02:09.48 | AsaPhelps | well missile command is a variant |
| 02:09.50 | onetwo | damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 02:09.51 | AsaPhelps | which i deleted |
| 02:09.53 | AsaPhelps | YET it appears |
| 02:09.54 | onetwo | i bet it doesnt maybe |
| 02:09.57 | fatal510 | hey onetwo, did you make a TD tutorial that had a anti blocker? |
| 02:09.59 | Kerotan | Sigh variation is fucking up my publishing :( |
| 02:09.59 | onetwo | we justhavent learned |
| 02:10.00 | onetwo | fully |
| 02:10.06 | AsaPhelps | then again I deleted 10 versions and they still appear |
| 02:10.13 | AsaPhelps | okay, uplaoded new version logging on |
| 02:10.15 | JCup | I made it so my spell required level 5 and it worked appropriately |
| 02:10.19 | onetwo | well my TD was built on the war3 model that units that were blocked WOULD attack their way through |
| 02:10.19 | Twiner | is there a way to move an actor? |
| 02:10.20 | AsaPhelps | if anyone else wants to help me test my map let me know |
| 02:10.22 | onetwo | dont know if thats changed in sc2 |
| 02:10.36 | RickA | Asa, which map? |
| 02:10.47 | RickA | Oh |
| 02:11.17 | Kerotan | Anyone know how to fix the 'Variation' publishing errors? |
| 02:11.18 | AsaPhelps | Missile Command |
| 02:11.19 | RickA | Twiner, yes |
| 02:11.27 | elmstfreddie | Asa, I'll help test. |
| 02:11.29 | Twiner | negvermind, found a better way |
| 02:11.30 | AsaPhelps | okay |
| 02:11.33 | AsaPhelps | Are you US elm? |
| 02:11.36 | onetwo | afk eating |
| 02:11.41 | elmstfreddie | Canada but same crap |
| 02:11.42 | wacko | what variation publishing error ? |
| 02:11.48 | AsaPhelps | RickA want to help test? |
| 02:11.59 | RickA | Not really, but I will anyway. |
| 02:12.00 | Kerotan | Cant publish if ive touched the Variation options :S |
| 02:12.06 | AsaPhelps | well if you're busy then don't worry |
| 02:12.11 | Sozer | are there switches in sc2 editor? |
| 02:12.29 | elmstfreddie | Hey: anyone else notices that SC2 sorely lacks gates? I miss gates. :( |
| 02:12.32 | AsaPhelps | if you want to help test join the map lost temple ffa on slower for melee, and i'll friend you |
| 02:12.48 | elmstfreddie | ... lmao, BNet 2.0.. |
| 02:12.51 | AsaPhelps | actually hold on |
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| 02:15.12 | AsaPhelps | RickA, still up for the test or are yo ubusy? |
| 02:15.19 | RickA | I can test |
| 02:15.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sci_ (~4461f7d5@gateway/web/freenode/x-ikonpquukqxudbnk) |
| 02:16.13 | elmstfreddie | Asa, do you want us to do the lost temple thing? |
| 02:17.41 | mosaicpao | my editor is really bugging out.. :( |
| 02:17.44 | Xapti | dammit why aren't the tooltips workign for me in the editor right now |
| 02:18.02 | Xapti | it displayed a tooltip once, and don't display any others |
| 02:18.15 | Xapti | (or itself again) |
| 02:18.19 | Sci_ | ok, so if you issue orders via triggers, do these generate network traffic? |
| 02:19.14 | Martul | Why the hell did they have to prevent file overriding of files in the mpq? |
| 02:19.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-247-67.dsl.mweb.co.za) |
| 02:20.21 | Skizot | because it can SEVERELY break bnet |
| 02:20.28 | Dustin | I think he's on repeat |
| 02:20.32 | Skizot | i had to call in a favor to a friend who works at bnet for you. |
| 02:20.38 | Skizot | so you owe me. |
| 02:21.28 | Sci_ | another question, is a periodic trigger running ever .01 seconds going to do anything adverse? |
| 02:21.35 | Sci_ | like network traffic |
| 02:21.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan.W.Ro@pool-71-103-175-254.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 02:22.00 | Skizot | epends what we do. |
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| 02:24.07 | Sozer | are there switches in sc2 editor? |
| 02:24.23 | Sci_ | well, I wanted to make a unit face a variable direction while still being able to move. The only way I've been able to do this is by storing the units current order, then using a 'Make unit face angle' action, then reordering the unit, at a really frequent period even |
| 02:25.22 | elmstfreddie | .. so you want him to move but face 1 direction../ |
| 02:25.34 | Skizot | strafing |
| 02:25.36 | Skizot | ? |
| 02:25.37 | Sci_ | if I reduce the frequency of the trigger, then the unit turns more before moving again, and it makes the movement choppy looking |
| 02:26.00 | Sci_ | no, really I just want the unit to be able to pick another unit or point and always face it, even while moving |
| 02:27.04 | elmstfreddie | In the data editor |
| 02:27.06 | elmstfreddie | set turning rate to 0 |
| 02:27.12 | elmstfreddie | then uh, use triggers to make him face wherever you want |
| 02:27.24 | Sci_ | it's for a shield type ability, where the unit gets a giant shield that can deflect projectiles, and the user can have him keep facing units or a location to shield projectiles from that direction |
| 02:27.26 | elmstfreddie | and I just tested, they still move normally. but always face 1 direction, and won't rotate (unless triggers force it obvs) |
| 02:27.52 | Sci_ | elms> ya, but try to use the triggers to make him face a point always |
| 02:28.10 | Sci_ | then move him |
| 02:28.29 | Dustin | What skyboxes currently work? |
| 02:28.32 | elmstfreddie | So you don't want him facing a direction |
| 02:28.34 | elmstfreddie | you want him facing a point |
| 02:28.38 | Skizot | most of them |
| 02:28.40 | Sci_ | yep |
| 02:28.40 | Xapti | if you're changing a unit's facing direction, that alone will cause network traffic, regardless of if the actual trigger does |
| 02:28.52 | Skizot | to test ingame.. hold control and mousewheel up ALOT |
| 02:29.00 | *** kick/#sc2mapster [Martul!~Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com] by Sixen (Martul) |
| 02:29.08 | Dustin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.10 | Skizot | :D |
| 02:29.12 | Dustin | Should work right |
| 02:29.15 | Sixen | Is that Blayzin? |
| 02:29.16 | Skizot | yeah |
| 02:29.21 | Dustin | hmm |
| 02:29.22 | Sixen | *sigh* |
| 02:29.26 | Motive | lol |
| 02:29.27 | elmstfreddie | Okay.. well, sci, if you do what I said (and make the turn rate 0), use triggers to make him face the angle between points (point 1 being the guy, point 2 being the target) |
| 02:29.27 | Sixen | Dustin, is your phone setup yet? :) |
| 02:29.29 | Skizot | you have to set the far z of the camera to a retarded number though |
| 02:29.30 | Motive | really? |
| 02:29.31 | Motive | hahaha |
| 02:29.41 | elmstfreddie | that at least removes like 2 actions from your 3 actions :P:P |
| 02:29.43 | Dustin | Ya im trying to get the webcam working |
| 02:29.52 | Skizot | over 9000 is best |
| 02:29.52 | elmstfreddie | And you won't need it .01 periodically I would imagine |
| 02:29.58 | Sci_ | xapti> wow, really? I would think that network traffic wouldn't be generated from that sort of thing, since all the clients should do it simultaneous given the data already there |
| 02:30.15 | Xapti | I'm not saying the trigger would |
| 02:30.22 | Xapti | I'm saying changing unit's facing direction would |
| 02:30.35 | Xapti | because that's something all other clients also need to see |
| 02:31.02 | Skizot | sixen make me halfop already |
| 02:31.27 | Sixen | Oh right. |
| 02:31.29 | Sixen | let's see.. |
| 02:31.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster RickAx (~Rick@d53-64-70-146.nap.wideopenwest.com) |
| 02:31.47 | Dustin | Ya me to! |
| 02:32.01 | RickAx | Asa, I am displeased |
| 02:32.05 | RickAx | Your map crashed SC2 |
| 02:32.14 | RickAx | Which in turn BSoD'd me. |
| 02:32.15 | fatal510 | did one of you peoplez make that battlecraft map? |
| 02:32.17 | Sci_ | xapti> ya, but the trigger is setting the facing direction given data that all clients have access to, and doesn't change often (when a different unit moves or something) |
| 02:32.19 | Sixen | Yeah, there's some people that should be voiced that aren't mods. |
| 02:32.39 | Sci_ | xapti> not saying your not right btw, just trying to figure it all out |
| 02:32.44 | Skizot | and MODS should be able to MODERATE here too. |
| 02:33.40 | Xapti | even if all the clients know the direction where that unit was told to face, they separately would tell eachother that information once they actually do it. Least that's how I see it working |
| 02:34.18 | elmstfreddie | Anyone have map ideas? or some random thing that will give me inspiration? I want to make a map, but I don't know what to make. |
| 02:34.24 | Xapti | or at least the server would separately tell each client |
| 02:34.49 | Sci_ | elmstfreddie> well, the problem is that the 'make unit face angle' command cancels an order, so I can't use it and have smooth movement unless I do it frequently |
| 02:35.10 | elmstfreddie | @Sci I don't think it does, didn't seem to cancel my unit's orders |
| 02:35.54 | Sci_ | really? I might be doing it wrong... I've tried like a billion ways of doing it, may be doing it wrong though |
| 02:36.44 | elmstfreddie | Hold on, let me double check |
| 02:37.24 | elmstfreddie | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.29 | elmstfreddie | Doesn't override the probe's orders |
| 02:37.33 | elmstfreddie | but it does lag like hell lol |
| 02:38.49 | Sci_ | elms> ohh ya, should have mentioned that over 0 seconds works, just ugly as hell |
| 02:38.50 | elmstfreddie | lol, nevermind, i t doesn't lag. it's a weird illusion :P |
| 02:38.54 | Sci_ | yep |
| 02:38.58 | elmstfreddie | yeah. lol |
| 02:39.02 | elmstfreddie | What if you did over 0.01 |
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| 02:39.13 | Sci_ | if you put a value in the over part it looks better, but then it cancels the order |
| 02:39.33 | elmstfreddie | ahhhhh, I see! |
| 02:39.37 | elmstfreddie | you're right. that explains that |
| 02:39.55 | elmstfreddie | It's like in warcrap, there was an action to make a unit command itself to turn kind of thing, and another for instant |
| 02:40.02 | elmstfreddie | I g uess the number differs between those two in this... |
| 02:40.33 | Ignorance | Face it. I'm the coolest out of all of us. |
| 02:40.34 | Sci_ | ya :/ |
| 02:40.49 | Ignorance | Glad to see we are in agreement. |
| 02:40.53 | Dustin | Skizot, Sixen |
| 02:41.00 | Dustin | Come do a 4player map test with ,e |
| 02:41.02 | Xapti | Anyone know what outro property means on a mover phase? |
| 02:41.06 | Ignorance | Hey Dustin, figure out anything with the WASD lag? |
| 02:41.17 | Dustin | It seems to be better now |
| 02:41.27 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 02:41.31 | Dustin | I switched WASD systems with one rrowland made |
| 02:41.36 | Ignorance | oh |
| 02:41.43 | Ignorance | ooohhhhh |
| 02:41.51 | Ignorance | still using my physics? |
| 02:41.54 | Sixen | I'm meleeing right now Dustin :( |
| 02:41.56 | Dustin | theirs still delay but not very bad |
| 02:42.02 | Dustin | Damn you sixen! |
| 02:42.09 | Sixen | my partner and I could if you want |
| 02:42.11 | Sixen | after this game |
| 02:42.17 | Sixen | that'll make 4 |
| 02:42.27 | Ignorance | cause I remember |
| 02:42.30 | Ignorance | top down fighters |
| 02:42.30 | Kerotan | How do I add the archon damage effect to a unit without adding the actuall attack? :S |
| 02:42.33 | Ignorance | at the top of the list |
| 02:42.36 | Ignorance | lagging like hell |
| 02:42.39 | Ignorance | couldn't do anything |
| 02:42.42 | Dustin | hell ya |
| 02:42.59 | Dustin | Ya Ignorance, It's alot better |
| 02:43.14 | Dustin | just tried it out after bug fixed iwth 2 people and it was almost lag free on the movement |
| 02:43.24 | Dustin | So I wanna check it out 4 player |
| 02:43.26 | Ignorance | mmmm |
| 02:43.26 | Dustin | make sure it's ok |
| 02:43.36 | Xapti | Kerotan, you add the effect to the unit's effect |
| 02:43.47 | Kerotan | I did that, but it also added the attack |
| 02:43.54 | Xapti | unit's weapon's effect can be given another effect |
| 02:43.59 | Ignorance | are you using the system I had with how movement was implemented once you got everything, though? the acceleration, deceleration |
| 02:44.10 | Dustin | nah |
| 02:44.11 | Ignorance | wondering incase I can revive baneling busters :P |
| 02:44.14 | Xapti | just give it the damage effect not the visual effect if that's what you mean |
| 02:44.16 | Sozer | hey alright im experiencing something weird |
| 02:44.16 | Ignorance | blah |
| 02:44.17 | Dustin | Switched it up to a lighter system |
| 02:44.22 | Xapti | I don't know what you mean by attack, there is no such term |
| 02:44.30 | Ignorance | mmm |
| 02:44.54 | Ignorance | though, to be fair, I've probably put more work into sentry scramble at this point |
| 02:45.01 | Xapti | if all you want is to change a unit's splash radius and damage, yo ucan just do that |
| 02:45.02 | Ignorance | working on team mode with revive point at center |
| 02:45.11 | Sozer | im trying to change properties of a pylon.. everything i;ve tried works except the resource cost for building it |
| 02:45.25 | Sozer | it wont change from its default |
| 02:45.31 | Ignorance | I want 4 or 5 different modes before I release the latest version. |
| 02:45.38 | elmstfreddie | I think the price is part of the ability for building it |
| 02:45.40 | Kerotan | Im putting it on the weapons: UI - Damage Display effect, but it also adds the archon damage effect |
| 02:45.41 | elmstfreddie | Probe - Build |
| 02:45.51 | Ignorance | Game relies on a randomly generated maze with no dead ends. It loads in seconds and is pretty badass. |
| 02:45.53 | Sozer | oo ill try ty |
| 02:46.05 | Ignorance | sorry, less than a second |
| 02:47.11 | elmstfreddie | Q: is that top down RPG game poorly triggered or does all WASD/keyboard movement lag on BNet? |
| 02:47.17 | Sci_ | elms> how long are you going to be online? |
| 02:47.22 | elmstfreddie | probably awhile. |
| 02:47.44 | elmstfreddie | like, another 3 hours lol |
| 02:47.57 | Sci_ | kk, I'll make a test map showing my current way of doing it |
| 02:48.04 | elmstfreddie | okay |
| 02:48.31 | Sci_ | would just send this one, but I got no names on variables/triggers/anything, and it's pretty hacked since I've been trying everything out |
| 02:48.52 | Sci_ | like right now minerals, missles, and all kinds of stuff are rotating... it's kinda cool actually |
| 02:49.04 | elmstfreddie | LOL |
| 02:49.05 | elmstfreddie | epic |
| 02:49.34 | Dustin | [21:47] <elmstfreddie> Q: is that top down RPG game poorly triggered or does all WASD/keyboard movement lag on BNet? <--- Bnet Lag |
| 02:49.39 | Dustin | It's my map |
| 02:49.43 | Dustin | Try it single player |
| 02:49.46 | Dustin | It's smooth as fuck |
| 02:49.48 | Sci_ | ya, shoulda seen some interceptors flying around while rotating |
| 02:49.53 | fatal510 | where do you change the supply cost of a unit? |
| 02:50.02 | elmstfreddie | Yeah, that's a pity.. cause I was gonna make a third person RPG.. then I saw that and was like "oh maybe not" |
| 02:50.03 | elmstfreddie | haha |
| 02:50.19 | Dustin | Itll get better by launch |
| 02:50.22 | Dustin | Its pretty playable now |
| 02:50.32 | elmstfreddie | Is it? Last time I played it was 2-3second delay on anything |
| 02:50.33 | Ignorance | mmm |
| 02:50.35 | Dustin | Getting people together so I can paly a quick 4 player test of the new version |
| 02:50.49 | Dustin | Ya I just played with 2 people with like .5 seconds delay |
| 02:50.50 | elmstfreddie | I'd like to try, seeing as I haven't played a playable version of it yet xD |
| 02:50.52 | Ignorance | I hope to use my mazing methods to let people generate good roguelikes. |
| 02:51.10 | fatal510 | ill join you dustin |
| 02:51.13 | Sci_ | Dustin> I'm game if you need a guy |
| 02:51.20 | Dustin | Just need 2 atm |
| 02:51.35 | Sci_ | kk, then back to my map |
| 02:51.39 | Ignorance | mmm |
| 02:52.19 | Dustin | dustin.hendrickson@gmail.com for friends request |
| 02:52.20 | elmstfreddie | @sci, if his game gets .5 second delay now, I doubt your trigger would cause bnet lag. especially since there won't be many units doing it (right?) |
| 02:53.08 | elmstfreddie | Sent a request, dustin |
| 02:53.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Martul (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/martul) |
| 02:53.21 | onetwo | and im back |
| 02:53.24 | onetwo | and i guess so is martul |
| 02:54.26 | Ignorance | added |
| 02:54.28 | Ignorance | dustin |
| 02:55.17 | Dustin | wtf |
| 02:55.29 | Dustin | Bnet keeps disbanding game lobbys |
| 02:55.34 | elmstfreddie | really? |
| 02:56.15 | onetwo | just like your morally disbanded this channel Dustin? |
| 02:56.18 | onetwo | jk jk i had to say it |
| 02:56.25 | onetwo | you* |
| 02:56.28 | onetwo | damnit i had a typ |
| 02:56.28 | Dustin | Fuck ya :D |
| 02:56.29 | onetwo | typo |
| 02:56.35 | onetwo | youre* |
| 02:56.36 | onetwo | ah |
| 02:56.38 | onetwo | double typo |
| 02:58.30 | Sci_ | elms> nah, it's for an action rpg type map, so the max would be equal to the max number of players |
| 02:58.52 | elmstfreddie | yeah, and you only need the trigger on while they're using the ability, so it shouldn't be too badf I would imagine. |
| 02:59.24 | Reactorex | Game's still imbalanced. :P |
| 02:59.29 | AsaPhelps | Says the loser |
| 02:59.31 | Sci_ | yeah, guess I can do it this way, and change it later if need be |
| 02:59.35 | Reactorex | Exactly. |
| 02:59.45 | AsaPhelps | what do you think I should change? |
| 02:59.51 | Reactorex | Because my ally left, there was no longer any chance for me to win. |
| 02:59.57 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 03:00.01 | Sci_ | that's any game |
| 03:00.05 | AsaPhelps | ^^^^^^^^ |
| 03:00.15 | Reactorex | But custom games can balance against that. |
| 03:00.21 | AsaPhelps | Yeah |
| 03:00.43 | elmstfreddie | BTW! Who has teams figured out? I certainly don't. I do all alliances with in game triggers lol |
| 03:01.04 | Reactorex | Arithmetic to calculate shield life bsaed on amount of players remaining on a team- that one you said may do the trick. |
| 03:01.11 | Reactorex | based* |
| 03:01.27 | onetwo | same freddie |
| 03:01.31 | onetwo | i even set allied chat |
| 03:01.34 | onetwo | which is one way |
| 03:01.35 | Reactorex | They'll still have lower income and slower building, but takes a but longer to breach into their base. |
| 03:01.39 | onetwo | so double loops |
| 03:01.40 | Reactorex | bit* |
| 03:01.42 | onetwo | through triggers |
| 03:01.58 | RickAx | I didn't leave, btw |
| 03:02.01 | elmstfreddie | you can make everyone inside a player group ally, which is easier |
| 03:02.02 | AsaPhelps | that'll take me a while to do |
| 03:02.05 | Reactorex | I know. |
| 03:02.10 | RickAx | His map crashed my SC |
| 03:02.19 | AsaPhelps | More like your SC crashed my map |
| 03:02.24 | Reactorex | AsaPhelps, how is life calculated? |
| 03:02.31 | AsaPhelps | Its a value |
| 03:02.37 | AsaPhelps | that is a random number I thought of |
| 03:02.39 | Reactorex | A variable? |
| 03:02.50 | AsaPhelps | I just set the life of the unit in the data editor |
| 03:02.53 | Sci_ | reactorex/asaphelps is this an rpg type map? |
| 03:02.57 | AsaPhelps | Nope |
| 03:02.59 | Reactorex | Nope. |
| 03:03.01 | AsaPhelps | Oh I know what I want to do |
| 03:03.06 | AsaPhelps | Is make the shield smaller with lower life |
| 03:03.14 | AsaPhelps | Actually that might make it look like crap |
| 03:03.19 | RickAx | I'm the only one I know of who's got an RPG |
| 03:03.19 | Reactorex | :P |
| 03:03.34 | Sci_ | asaphelps are you talking about the marine shield, or protos shields? |
| 03:03.41 | Reactorex | AsaPhelps, set the life of the unit to the amount you want per. player. |
| 03:03.53 | Reactorex | Then use a buff and apply it X times, once per each extra player. |
| 03:04.01 | Reactorex | When a player leaves, remove one of the buff stacks. |
| 03:04.18 | Reactorex | The buff will just add the same amount of life to the unit. |
| 03:04.32 | AsaPhelps | How do you add a white circle thing |
| 03:04.35 | AsaPhelps | Like siege tanks have |
| 03:04.37 | rrowland | DA DA DA |
| 03:04.45 | RickAx | Its an actor |
| 03:04.45 | Sci_ | asa it's an actor |
| 03:04.49 | elmstfreddie | Asa... assuming you're speaking of the missile command game I played, why not just have a circle region (with the middle cut out), spawn a bunch of dummy units in there (that look like the shield), and uh.. use triggers for life? [unit enters, do this, blah] |
| 03:04.50 | NeoDeathXp | ! |
| 03:04.57 | elmstfreddie | .. and if the life is 0, don't kill them as they enter it o.o; |
| 03:05.09 | AsaPhelps | maybe elm |
| 03:05.11 | AsaPhelps | My way is so |
| 03:05.15 | AsaPhelps | clumsy |
| 03:05.22 | AsaPhelps | All I did was manually place a bunch of units D: |
| 03:05.28 | elmstfreddie | yeah... it was very haphazard |
| 03:05.35 | elmstfreddie | if you're going to manually place, at least use a circle region for REFERENCE >_> |
| 03:05.36 | rrowland | Alright so I'm going to try to localize these maps for EU |
| 03:05.51 | AsaPhelps | I can speak some German |
| 03:06.01 | AsaPhelps | Does that help? |
| 03:06.03 | Reactorex | I can speak insane. :3 |
| 03:06.18 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 03:07.01 | RickAx | So Asa, I don't need testing, but I could use some player input on my map. |
| 03:07.11 | RickAx | I can guarantee you it won't crash your computer :) |
| 03:07.49 | elmstfreddie | <-- this kid wants to help too!!! haha I n eed inspiration. so far bnet has provided me with TDs... and yeah.. I don't wanna make a TD |
| 03:08.00 | RickAx | Sure |
| 03:08.08 | AsaPhelps | I'll help you test Rick |
| 03:08.27 | RickAx | Its not testing |
| 03:08.34 | RickAx | Everything works as intended so far |
| 03:08.39 | RickAx | Even the bugs :p |
| 03:08.47 | RickAx | I just need ideas for features and balance |
| 03:09.00 | AsaPhelps | well thats no fun |
| 03:09.26 | ekcolnovkol | does anyone know the actor model for tauren marine |
| 03:09.27 | elmstfreddie | lmao xD |
| 03:09.47 | Reactorex | facepalms. |
| 03:10.25 | AsaPhelps | tauren...marine? |
| 03:10.28 | elmstfreddie | @Rick, add elmstfreddie@gmail.com on bnet, |
| 03:10.37 | ekcolnovkol | ya :U |
| 03:10.50 | Reactorex | That was an April 1st thing. |
| 03:10.59 | ekcolnovkol | i thought it was going to be in the editor |
| 03:11.02 | AsaPhelps | wow people sure like battlecraft armageddon |
| 03:11.06 | Reactorex | Probably. |
| 03:11.09 | Reactorex | But not in the beta editor. |
| 03:11.12 | ekcolnovkol | :( |
| 03:11.14 | Reactorex | Everything's going to be in the retail editor. |
| 03:11.18 | ekcolnovkol | i want neutral creeps NOW |
| 03:11.19 | Reactorex | All the unused stuff, etc. |
| 03:11.24 | ekcolnovkol | stabs himself |
| 03:11.25 | RickAx | I'm gonna prepare my map for publishing |
| 03:11.30 | RickAx | I'll talk to you guys in about 10 minutes |
| 03:11.32 | RickAx | and we can play it |
| 03:11.36 | onetwo | hmm |
| 03:11.44 | onetwo | to make hero abilities trainable every 2nd level |
| 03:11.45 | Reactorex | Our maps, once the retail editor comes out, will be only half of what the full editor can do. |
| 03:11.51 | onetwo | i guess you cant really use a requirement easily |
| 03:12.00 | onetwo | because some abilities might be learned at level 1, some at level 2 |
| 03:12.01 | onetwo | or 5 |
| 03:12.02 | onetwo | or 10 |
| 03:12.07 | ekcolnovkol | they better not tell us our maps are incompatiable with the new version |
| 03:12.09 | onetwo | hmm |
| 03:12.12 | AsaPhelps | time for fun |
| 03:12.12 | ekcolnovkol | i will rage SO HARD |
| 03:12.17 | Reactorex | They've said they won't be, so I've heard. |
| 03:12.17 | AsaPhelps | bumping my map into the top 2 pages of popularity |
| 03:12.19 | AsaPhelps | oh yea |
| 03:12.22 | ekcolnovkol | what |
| 03:12.23 | ekcolnovkol | WHAT |
| 03:12.27 | elmstfreddie | how do you bump it asa |
| 03:12.28 | Reactorex | They won't be incompatible. |
| 03:12.32 | Reactorex | Read. |
| 03:12.32 | ekcolnovkol | oh |
| 03:12.34 | Reactorex | >_> |
| 03:12.37 | MrRoy | How can I make it so everytime one builds a specified building, the specified building is invulnerable |
| 03:12.40 | ekcolnovkol | they "won't be" |
| 03:12.41 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 03:12.47 | MrRoy | the specified building being a photon cannon |
| 03:12.48 | ekcolnovkol | your sentence was unclear |
| 03:12.49 | ekcolnovkol | :( |
| 03:12.54 | Reactorex | It was in reply to yours. |
| 03:12.56 | Reactorex | Directly. |
| 03:12.56 | onetwo | just make the flags for the unit in the data editor |
| 03:12.59 | onetwo | be invulnerable |
| 03:13.00 | ekcolnovkol | <3 |
| 03:13.01 | elmstfreddie | MrRoy, do yo u just want it to be invulnerable? |
| 03:13.05 | Reactorex | In context, it was :P |
| 03:13.05 | MrRoy | ya |
| 03:13.09 | elmstfreddie | because, yes, there's a flag to make it invuln, like ontwo said |
| 03:13.10 | elmstfreddie | onetwo* |
| 03:13.15 | MrRoy | ok |
| 03:13.35 | MrRoy | ty |
| 03:14.10 | Dustin | Woot |
| 03:14.17 | fatal510 | bad tank! |
| 03:14.19 | Dustin | Map plays well when Sixen isnt in it haha |
| 03:14.19 | fatal510 | need more tps |
| 03:14.40 | Reactorex | Which version, Dustin? |
| 03:14.45 | Dustin | 1.9 |
| 03:15.19 | Reactorex | And question. WHO said that games aren't connected by BNet and are P2P? |
| 03:15.43 | Reactorex | Btw, Dustin, set your game variant to default by right-clicking it :P |
| 03:15.59 | Reactorex | It'll be auto-selected that way. |
| 03:16.03 | Reactorex | Oh, right.. |
| 03:16.16 | Reactorex | onetwo: apply that change to your map for the next version! :P Make your game variant the default. |
| 03:16.30 | AsaPhelps | wtf another perfect game |
| 03:16.48 | AsaPhelps | baseball is so boring |
| 03:17.03 | Dustin | I can make my variant default select? |
| 03:17.17 | MrRoy | can I make it that if a parcour is blocked, a flag is removed from a specified building? |
| 03:17.26 | heysparky | watching a perfect game is FAR from boring |
| 03:17.33 | MrRoy | like, if people block the way on the defense map the buildings become vulnerable |
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| 03:17.35 | MrRoy | and they attack |
| 03:17.45 | AsaPhelps | you could set your ddr to record the first batter |
| 03:17.49 | AsaPhelps | and then watch it 27 times |
| 03:17.52 | onetwo | OH |
| 03:17.55 | onetwo | nice reactorex |
| 03:18.16 | heysparky | meh, not everyone appreciates the nuance of baseball |
| 03:18.20 | onetwo | the sc2 editor is kind of like apple products, you discover stuff months into it... like i never knew my ipod touch could take screenshots |
| 03:18.23 | AsaPhelps | I deleted variants from my map but they still show up when I make a game |
| 03:18.23 | onetwo | so many useful things |
| 03:18.24 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:18.34 | Reactorex | xD |
| 03:18.43 | Reactorex | Read the user manuals :P |
| 03:18.53 | elmstfreddie | Asa, you just inspired me to make a baseball map XD |
| 03:19.00 | onetwo | i dont read them so editor and apple products are on same level for me |
| 03:19.01 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:19.26 | Reactorex | xP |
| 03:19.29 | onetwo | oh reactorex |
| 03:19.34 | onetwo | one thing i wasnt able to figure out though |
| 03:19.37 | onetwo | is with game variant |
| 03:19.40 | onetwo | making only one team |
| 03:19.42 | onetwo | everyone on same team |
| 03:19.43 | onetwo | cant do it? |
| 03:19.47 | Dustin | I did it |
| 03:19.54 | Dustin | Its not to hard once you figure it out |
| 03:20.44 | onetwo | i found one person always gets moved |
| 03:20.47 | onetwo | to a "new team" |
| 03:21.00 | fatal510 | is there a way to make a trainable unit have a limited stock that recharges so you can only train so many then you gotta wait for the stock to replenish |
| 03:21.09 | ekcolnovkol | how do i create a player group :u |
| 03:21.11 | Reactorex | Dustin, what's the purpose to jumping in your map? |
| 03:21.23 | Dustin | SKIZOT |
| 03:21.32 | Reactorex | And onetwo, you saw that everyone was on the same team on my map :P |
| 03:21.36 | onetwo | (Game) Teams field in game variant has values of (none), 2, 3, 4... 12, FFA |
| 03:21.38 | onetwo | how? |
| 03:22.00 | Martul | I do find it funny how people will try and say that you can use imports to override files in the mpq but then don't try to prove me wrong |
| 03:22.15 | Dustin | Reactorex, cosmetcs atm, youll be able to jump over ground obsticles when I figures out how to get changing a units colision with triggers to work |
| 03:22.30 | Reactorex | Can you get the units to stop shooting over cliffs? |
| 03:22.34 | Reactorex | They're powning me. :( |
| 03:22.40 | AsaPhelps | wtf my map disappeared D: |
| 03:23.33 | Martul | laughs at AsaPhelps |
| 03:24.05 | AsaPhelps | nm I found it |
| 03:24.11 | AsaPhelps | it wasn't on the list until I remade it though |
| 03:24.14 | Martul | damnit |
| 03:24.55 | Reactorex | I see a noob. |
| 03:25.29 | Twiner | you cant pass arrays of data as parameters right? |
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| 03:26.05 | Martul | I do find it funny how people will try and say that you can use imports to override files in the mpq but then don't try to prove me wrong. |
| 03:26.09 | Reactorex | Do you mean the whole array, multiple parts of the array, or a single index value? |
| 03:26.34 | elmstfreddie | Gonna be on BNet... if anyone wants me for testing or playing on their map, add elmstfreddie@gmail.com + message me |
| 03:29.41 | Dustin | I wish i could force people to play my updated map |
| 03:30.09 | RickAx | I thought you could remove maps from b.net |
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| 03:34.00 | Reactorex | You sort of can. |
| 03:34.04 | Reactorex | Remove the old versions from manage published. |
| 03:34.09 | RickAx | Yeah |
| 03:34.14 | RickAx | So what's the problem? |
| 03:34.18 | Reactorex | They take up space, anyways. |
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| 03:36.36 | Twiner | can I make my own Object family? |
| 03:37.22 | RickAx | I don't think so. |
| 03:37.35 | JCup | Wouldnt serve much purpose |
| 03:41.39 | Xapti | oh god |
| 03:41.41 | Xapti | this isn't good |
| 03:41.45 | RickAx | What's up? |
| 03:41.49 | Xapti | I alt-tab back from testing my map |
| 03:41.52 | heysparky | can you display a portrait on hte screen near a unit? |
| 03:41.53 | Xapti | and hte editor is gone |
| 03:42.02 | heysparky | bsaically translate worldspace to screenspace? |
| 03:42.05 | Xapti | compeltely missing. No errors or anything |
| 03:42.20 | heysparky | ugh xapti |
| 03:42.41 | heysparky | well, your ctrl-f9 copy of the map should have your latest... |
| 03:42.54 | Xapti | yeah i did that once |
| 03:43.07 | AsaPhelps | afk hosts in public game suck :( |
| 03:44.18 | RickAx | Asa, want to play mine soon? |
| 03:44.35 | AsaPhelps | sure in a bit |
| 03:44.41 | AsaPhelps | I'm going to bed soon too though |
| 03:45.07 | RickAx | Nevermind then |
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| 03:45.52 | Xapti | I'm always so tempted to do map editing, but |
| 03:46.00 | Xapti | I am annoyed at the major lack of documentation, |
| 03:46.07 | Xapti | I think I'll just wait until release |
| 03:46.29 | RickAx | A good plan |
| 03:46.45 | heysparky | WOOT, just made my intro cinematic skippable |
| 03:46.47 | heysparky | oh yeah |
| 03:47.05 | MavercK | does anyone know anything about buff stacking |
| 03:47.16 | Twiner | JCup: I like to be organized |
| 03:47.32 | JCup | oh u mean like a folder |
| 03:47.33 | MavercK | like a way to show how many stacks of a buff there are, or if every new stack refreshes all the stacks cooldown? |
| 03:47.48 | Twiner | make it easier to determine whats what |
| 03:47.52 | JCup | I thought you meant like a new object type all around |
| 03:47.59 | Twiner | no, I mean folder |
| 03:48.07 | JCup | and yeah I agree I think they should do that |
| 03:48.18 | JCup | I hate having to build around their static tree |
| 03:48.21 | Twiner | create groups, that are level |
| 03:48.28 | Twiner | to represent monster levels and such |
| 03:48.46 | Twiner | they need a feature request section |
| 03:49.35 | Twiner | being able to make object type trees would be nice too |
| 03:50.31 | Sci_ | gah, anyone else have the left and right panes in the data editor get a bit buggy? like sometimes the right side doesn't show the object I've selected on the left |
| 03:50.40 | RickAx | Yup |
| 03:51.23 | Sci_ | and sometimes I have something selected (through one of the many 'view' keys) but since I had a filter on the left pane, it won't let me change anything on the right |
| 03:51.44 | Sci_ | and sometimes I can't change values on the right, and if I click around, reselect things, etc it works |
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| 03:52.08 | Sci_ | >.<! |
| 03:53.23 | MavercK | yea just something you have to keep in mind :P |
| 03:53.29 | Reactorex | Is there a way to check who's the host via triggers? |
| 03:53.45 | RickAx | Didn't you ask that before? |
| 03:53.51 | Reactorex | Nope. |
| 03:53.54 | Reactorex | I asked something similar. |
| 03:53.54 | RickAx | No, most maps just assume host is player 1 |
| 03:53.56 | Reactorex | But not that :P |
| 03:54.04 | Reactorex | I know there's one way to do it... |
| 03:54.10 | Reactorex | but I was hoping there was a better way. |
| 03:54.17 | Reactorex | Like some sort of condition. |
| 03:59.23 | JCup | How did wc3 do it? |
| 03:59.30 | JCup | Like someone figured it out |
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| 03:59.56 | Reactorex | I think it required certain hooks. |
| 04:01.27 | fatal510 | is it possible to run 2 map editors at the same time? |
| 04:02.39 | AsaPhelps | hmm apparently people don't like my map |
| 04:02.39 | AsaPhelps | because it lats longer than 5 minutes |
| 04:02.39 | Reactorex | And allows 8 players. |
| 04:02.41 | MavercK | ? |
| 04:02.47 | MavercK | lol. |
| 04:02.54 | ekcolnovkol | my map allows under 9000 players :U |
| 04:03.02 | AsaPhelps | People in a game I played don't like shields respawning |
| 04:03.07 | AsaPhelps | But also think nukes are op |
| 04:03.12 | ekcolnovkol | nukes are op |
| 04:03.16 | AsaPhelps | Also I broke drones |
| 04:03.18 | AsaPhelps | Oops |
| 04:03.19 | ekcolnovkol | they are :o |
| 04:03.28 | ekcolnovkol | you have drones casting nukes? |
| 04:03.29 | heysparky | how do you increment the count in an objective? |
| 04:03.32 | ekcolnovkol | o.o |
| 04:03.39 | heysparky | do you just reset the text |
| 04:03.55 | heysparky | or is there a slicker way to do it? |
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| 04:08.36 | AsaPhelps | I made it so drones don't target missiles |
| 04:08.45 | AsaPhelps | Which makes nukes rape D: |
| 04:08.52 | Reactorex | You should limit the amount of attack things each player can have. |
| 04:09.14 | Reactorex | So they can't just go WTF I HAS ABSOLUTE POWAR DAI NOW. |
| 04:09.20 | Reactorex | It still limits them to an extent. |
| 04:09.23 | AsaPhelps | well |
| 04:09.31 | AsaPhelps | my biggest problem is that people just spam windmills |
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| 04:09.38 | Reactorex | And you need anti-creep generators :P |
| 04:09.55 | Reactorex | Put a longer cooldown on windmill? |
| 04:09.55 | AsaPhelps | creep isn't a huge issue I don't think |
| 04:09.58 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 04:10.09 | AsaPhelps | should I make the others have better income? |
| 04:10.10 | Reactorex | It's not a huge issue if you don't get attacked. |
| 04:10.17 | Reactorex | If you do, it takes forever to build again. |
| 04:10.29 | Reactorex | How much is it? |
| 04:10.31 | Reactorex | 5 per 10 secs? |
| 04:10.36 | AsaPhelps | yep |
| 04:10.52 | AsaPhelps | I go, 5/10 10/10 15/10 10/5 15/5 |
| 04:10.54 | Reactorex | Don't make the others more, no. |
| 04:10.59 | Reactorex | But fix white hole :P |
| 04:11.06 | Reactorex | 1: lags. 2: inefficient. |
| 04:11.12 | AsaPhelps | but it looks cool |
| 04:11.21 | Reactorex | It's still inefficient. |
| 04:11.25 | Reactorex | Not worth the money. |
| 04:11.27 | AsaPhelps | but it looks cool |
| 04:11.33 | Reactorex | Balance it :P |
| 04:11.43 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 04:11.46 | AsaPhelps | how about |
| 04:12.00 | AsaPhelps | 15 per second? |
| 04:12.07 | Reactorex | Ew, no. |
| 04:12.08 | Reactorex | >_> |
| 04:12.12 | Reactorex | That's too imba :P |
| 04:12.13 | AsaPhelps | 300 per second |
| 04:12.26 | AsaPhelps | well blues generate 10/5 |
| 04:12.29 | AsaPhelps | cost 500 |
| 04:12.34 | Reactorex | 5 per second. |
| 04:12.38 | AsaPhelps | whites are only |
| 04:12.41 | AsaPhelps | 1 more per second |
| 04:12.49 | AsaPhelps | so it takes 500 seconds for them to be more efficient |
| 04:13.19 | Reactorex | 1250 mins to build, 5 per second. |
| 04:13.34 | Reactorex | Not per 5 secs :P |
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| 04:14.41 | AsaPhelps | 5 per second seems low |
| 04:15.00 | Reactorex | That's 25/5 |
| 04:15.05 | AsaPhelps | what can I do to nerf windmills? |
| 04:15.16 | Reactorex | Make them 2x3. |
| 04:15.36 | Sci_ | .... |
| 04:15.41 | Reactorex | Or 3x3. |
| 04:15.46 | Reactorex | And then raise actor size. |
| 04:15.46 | AsaPhelps | why not just 3x3 |
| 04:15.51 | Reactorex | More space taken = less you can build. |
| 04:15.54 | Sci_ | never thought I would hear "<AsaPhelps> what can I do to nerf windmills?" |
| 04:16.03 | Reactorex | XD |
| 04:16.05 | AsaPhelps | you should've played map |
| 04:16.09 | AsaPhelps | when I had the scv speed at 50 |
| 04:16.15 | AsaPhelps | and no cooldown on building windmills |
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| 04:18.26 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 04:18.32 | AsaPhelps | I tried to attach a point drone to a thor's head |
| 04:18.36 | AsaPhelps | but its at his crotch |
| 04:18.47 | AsaPhelps | I don't think thats the right head |
| 04:22.10 | fatal510 | How do i get an action to happen when a unit enters ANY point of a region. Only thing i see is center of region. if i have a really long region at the bottom of the map i want the action to happen no matter where the unit enters at |
| 04:22.21 | fatal510 | is there just a plain "Enters Region"? |
| 04:23.50 | Ignorance | fatal, you have to do it on periodic timer |
| 04:23.55 | Ignorance | unless |
| 04:24.02 | Ignorance | the region existed when the map started |
| 04:24.09 | Ignorance | since enters region |
| 04:24.12 | Ignorance | is built like that |
| 04:24.35 | fatal510 | its a region created in the editor its there from the start |
| 04:24.39 | fatal510 | its a LONG rectangle |
| 04:24.50 | fatal510 | that goes from the bottom left corner to the bottom right |
| 04:24.57 | onetwo | a unit enters/leaves a region |
| 04:24.57 | onetwo | event |
| 04:25.01 | onetwo | then click leftmost bracket |
| 04:25.03 | onetwo | and pick the region you made |
| 04:25.42 | fatal510 | hmm i see |
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| 04:28.35 | fatal510 | so many dang brackets |
| 04:28.52 | onetwo | hah |
| 04:29.54 | fatal510 | never realized you could do the enter leave region like that |
| 04:29.59 | fatal510 | because i never noticed that bracket |
| 04:30.25 | onetwo | totally |
| 04:30.31 | onetwo | same happens a lot with issue order |
| 04:30.34 | onetwo | the bracket |
| 04:30.37 | onetwo | kills new people |
| 04:30.44 | onetwo | on that one |
| 04:30.46 | fatal510 | ya... everytime i do a want to do a Move order |
| 04:30.48 | onetwo | including me |
| 04:30.51 | fatal510 | i get lost in all the brackets |
| 04:30.53 | fatal510 | trying to find it |
| 04:31.57 | onetwo | does anyone else get random error |
| 04:32.00 | onetwo | occasionaly when saving |
| 04:32.07 | onetwo | about temp directory not being empty |
| 04:32.11 | fatal510 | nope |
| 04:32.16 | fatal510 | but if i have 2 maps open |
| 04:32.19 | elmstfreddie | Nope |
| 04:32.21 | fatal510 | and i switch between them often |
| 04:32.25 | fatal510 | GE crashes |
| 04:32.28 | fatal510 | its pissing me off |
| 04:33.02 | Reactorex | I think I have once, onetwo. |
| 04:33.21 | Sci_ | I _just_ had the bracket thing on issue order earlier today |
| 04:33.26 | Sci_ | like 2 hours ago |
| 04:33.48 | Sci_ | and was all like 'omfg... there's bracket there!' |
| 04:33.58 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:34.10 | Reactorex | ... |
| 04:34.11 | Sci_ | -_- |
| 04:34.18 | Reactorex | I use the second view, not the text view. |
| 04:34.21 | Reactorex | So the bracket doesn't bother me. |
| 04:34.32 | Reactorex | I don't see that stuff. |
| 04:34.36 | elmstfreddie | For what |
| 04:34.46 | Reactorex | Triggers. |
| 04:34.59 | elmstfreddie | Ah, so custom script vs gui |
| 04:35.03 | elmstfreddie | or? |
| 04:35.12 | fatal510 | Do one of you guys know how to make training a unit have a Stock count that auto replenishes so say you start off being able to only make 20 marines then you gotta wait for the stock to go back up to make more. |
| 04:35.19 | Reactorex | It sounds to be like everyone here's talking about the gui brackets. |
| 04:35.36 | Reactorex | The red/green/blue/black text part for editing triggers. |
| 04:35.54 | Bomhab | hey I've got a question: I'm trying to set an integer variable to a certain level when my player's vespene level is between say 25-100. So far I've got Event: Player 1 vespene changes Condition: 25 <= (Player 1 Vespene) <= 100 Action: Variable - Set P1 Level variable = 1 |
| 04:36.00 | elmstfreddie | Oh. I kinda use everything |
| 04:36.03 | Bomhab | but this doesn't work... |
| 04:37.19 | heysparky | I have a spammy trigger I'd like some help debugging... anyone mind taking a look in private chat? |
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| 04:37.38 | Reactorex | What does it cover, heysparky? |
| 04:37.42 | Reactorex | I might be helpful. |
| 04:37.48 | elmstfreddie | I'll try heysparky. And Bomhab, I'm looking into it |
| 04:37.59 | Bomhab | cool thx |
| 04:38.11 | Reactorex | I've had problems with "Within Range" before. |
| 04:38.16 | Reactorex | I used an "And" condition, instead. |
| 04:38.44 | heysparky | elms, I'll bug Reactor, you're looking at stuffs |
| 04:38.44 | onetwo | error in my Messages box that pops up randomly when i save |
| 04:38.46 | onetwo | Error: Unable to remove directory 'C:\Users\cc\Documents\StarCraft II Beta\Maps\Infection.SC2Map.temp\' System Error: The directory is not empty. |
| 04:38.58 | onetwo | not everytime too |
| 04:38.59 | onetwo | kind of odd |
| 04:39.18 | Reactorex | If (And ((Player 1 Vespene) >= 25), ((Player 1 Vespene) <= 100) then Variable- Set P1 Level variable = 1 |
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| 04:39.27 | Reactorex | That's the only way I've been able to do it. |
| 04:39.37 | Bomhab | I usually get that error if i'm trying to save and also have a test map running at the same time onetwo |
| 04:39.41 | onetwo | hmm |
| 04:40.01 | onetwo | oh and difference between action definition and function |
| 04:40.02 | onetwo | anyone know |
| 04:40.14 | onetwo | im trying to use some sort of function now to cut down copy pasted actions |
| 04:40.19 | onetwo | but i see both look very similar |
| 04:40.35 | elmstfreddie | Bomhab, it works fine, it's either the condition or variable |
| 04:40.35 | Reactorex | I think I got a spider bite on my leg. >< |
| 04:40.40 | elmstfreddie | I used two conditions |
| 04:40.54 | elmstfreddie | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.56 | elmstfreddie | er. |
| 04:40.58 | Reactorex | onetwo, they ARE similar. |
| 04:40.59 | Bomhab | kk, i'll try with 2 conditions, 1 sec |
| 04:41.01 | Reactorex | But only similar. |
| 04:41.02 | elmstfreddie | Yeah. |
| 04:41.03 | Reactorex | Function return values. |
| 04:41.07 | Reactorex | They MUST return values. |
| 04:41.19 | Reactorex | Actions.. not necessarily. |
| 04:41.21 | onetwo | ah |
| 04:41.24 | onetwo | interesting |
| 04:41.30 | elmstfreddie | Actions CAN'T return, I thought? |
| 04:41.37 | onetwo | it has a field to return |
| 04:41.40 | onetwo | but it says (None) |
| 04:41.45 | Dustin | People need to stop playing the old version of my map |
| 04:41.46 | Reactorex | If you put it to a global, it can that way. |
| 04:42.11 | Reactorex | Additionally... |
| 04:42.38 | Reactorex | New action definitions (not actions) can return values. |
| 04:42.44 | fatal510 | is there a way to order all units in region to do order |
| 04:42.56 | onetwo | k |
| 04:42.57 | Reactorex | Because it's not just putting an action into your thing. |
| 04:45.45 | elmstfreddie | @fatal, "Pick Each Unit In Unit Group" |
| 04:45.55 | elmstfreddie | then for unit group do "Units in region matching condition" |
| 04:45.56 | onetwo | k |
| 04:46.06 | elmstfreddie | and... the condition is default to "all units in (region) |
| 04:46.12 | elmstfreddie | so. yeah. just change the region |
| 04:48.33 | TheLaughingMan | Well it works somewhat |
| 04:52.45 | Pandepic | morning |
| 04:52.54 | Twiner | I wonder if I can rip a model out of warcraft, and put it in starcraft... |
| 04:53.00 | Twiner | I need a dog |
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| 04:54.25 | Pandepic | the wc3 space marine is so much cooler than the sc2 one |
| 04:54.32 | Pandepic | so I hope somebody figures out how |
| 05:02.47 | fatal510 | is there a way to show the map bounds in the editor |
| 05:03.17 | elmstfreddie | it.. does? |
| 05:03.19 | elmstfreddie | The blue line? |
| 05:03.47 | fatal510 | i dont see blue lines |
| 05:04.25 | elmstfreddie | press o |
| 05:04.32 | elmstfreddie | the letter, not the number |
| 05:04.50 | fatal510 | thanks |
| 05:05.07 | TheLaughingMan | Anyone able to approve projects? |
| 05:05.22 | fatal510 | yellow line is playable area blue line is the camera bounds right? |
| 05:05.44 | elmstfreddie | I believe so |
| 05:05.55 | TheLaughingMan | That is funny |
| 05:06.05 | TheLaughingMan | File was uploaded 1 minute from now |
| 05:06.45 | elmstfreddie | I would test it out first fatal, I always get those backwards lol |
| 05:10.02 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/tlm-ai-framework/. TLM AI Framework. Th3LaughingMan (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 05:10.47 | Dustin | Jesus |
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| 05:11.17 | Dustin | I can't get people to play my new map |
| 05:11.23 | Sixen | New version of TDF? |
| 05:11.28 | Dustin | I even tried spamming all the old games with Go host with the new version |
| 05:11.28 | Dustin | 1.9, this one is old. |
| 05:11.31 | Sixen | :( |
| 05:12.58 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/tlm-ai-framework/. TLM AI Framework. Th3LaughingMan (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 05:15.06 | Sixen | Dustin, did you get my message? It didn't show up as being sent for me. |
| 05:15.11 | Sixen | But I have the feeling it went through |
| 05:15.35 | Sixen | brb |
| 05:19.15 | fatal510 | is it bad to put a move order on a periodic timer of ever .5 seconds for units in a region? |
| 05:19.21 | fatal510 | every* |
| 05:19.42 | MavercK | kind of |
| 05:19.48 | MavercK | you'll have lots of triggers going off constantly |
| 05:19.55 | MavercK | give it the move order when it's created |
| 05:20.20 | MavercK | and if you want it to move to region to region. just use points and give it all the orders on creation with (after previous order or whatever it's called) |
| 05:20.23 | MavercK | thats the way i did it |
| 05:21.11 | MavercK | http://pastebin.com/xqjZsivM |
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| 05:22.40 | pirate | is there a way to place text on the UI independant of text boxes (or at least text that isn't within a text box?) |
| 05:23.47 | MavercK | UI > Text Message |
| 05:23.49 | MavercK | has a few otpions |
| 05:24.10 | pirate | alright thanks, ill look there |
| 05:24.20 | fatal510 | guess what? |
| 05:24.26 | fatal510 | MavercK is here and hes ready to be helpful! |
| 05:24.31 | MavercK | haha |
| 05:24.45 | MavercK | gives me something to do while i test new towers... |
| 05:27.35 | fatal510 | do you know how to have trainable units that have a stock count. so you can only make like 20 if thats how many are in stock then you need to wait for the stock to replenish |
| 05:27.38 | pirate | hmm, text message can't be placed to specific enough places. I want Text directly above a Dialog Item, but can |
| 05:27.42 | pirate | **can't |
| 05:28.04 | MavercK | only way i could think of would be custom resources |
| 05:28.27 | MavercK | couldn't you just make an invisible dialog item pirate? |
| 05:28.39 | pirate | invisible dialog with visible text? |
| 05:28.54 | pirate | ill give it a try |
| 05:28.55 | MavercK | well |
| 05:29.04 | MavercK | i dunno :P |
| 05:29.18 | MavercK | it wont work if you hide the dialog item |
| 05:29.28 | pirate | right... |
| 05:29.39 | pirate | how to make a dialog item invis then? |
| 05:30.03 | MavercK | havn't tired. but i assumed there would be a way to make one without the standard dialog graphic |
| 05:34.41 | pirate | eh, I managed to get the text across the very top of the text box, thisll doo |
| 05:34.43 | Denomination | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 05:34.49 | Denomination | GE loves to freeze on me :( |
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| 05:39.45 | ekcolnovkol | anyone have working heroes :u |
| 05:40.22 | JCup | What do u need ekcolnovkol |
| 05:40.27 | JCup | I might be able to help |
| 05:40.38 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 05:40.47 | ekcolnovkol | i was just asking if anyone had working heroes |
| 05:40.58 | ekcolnovkol | i'm almost done setting up the map |
| 05:41.26 | ekcolnovkol | and i'm looking around for units to plug in |
| 05:41.39 | ekcolnovkol | :> |
| 05:42.10 | ekcolnovkol | oh there is one quibble i'm having |
| 05:42.21 | elmstfreddie | quibble, hehe |
| 05:42.23 | ekcolnovkol | getting numbers to display properly after a kill |
| 05:42.36 | ekcolnovkol | like +3 over a unit's head on death |
| 05:43.07 | elmstfreddie | hmm, haven't tried this yet. but, have you given the unit a bounty in the data editor? |
| 05:43.13 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 05:43.19 | elmstfreddie | and that doesn't show numbers eh |
| 05:43.22 | ekcolnovkol | nope |
| 05:43.33 | elmstfreddie | use text tags then [floating text] |
| 05:43.42 | ekcolnovkol | it's seperate because then you can customize whether or not you want the number displayed above your units head or the dead unit's head |
| 05:43.52 | ekcolnovkol | how do i target the bounty in the data sheet |
| 05:44.03 | elmstfreddie | ? |
| 05:44.22 | onetwo | im working on a hero tutorial |
| 05:44.23 | onetwo | atm |
| 05:44.28 | onetwo | be out in a couple days |
| 05:44.30 | onetwo | probably |
| 05:44.42 | onetwo | rebooting |
| 05:44.46 | ekcolnovkol | i like to make scripts universally useful, instead of making a unique and explicit text display |
| 05:45.04 | elmstfreddie | right but what do you mean by "target the bounty" blah blah |
| 05:45.26 | ekcolnovkol | the value in the data sheet is CUnit_KillResource |
| 05:45.34 | ekcolnovkol | i'd like to know how to target this value in the text editor |
| 05:45.53 | ekcolnovkol | i don't know the jargon for the editor's coding |
| 05:46.07 | ekcolnovkol | does it use C++? C? php? etc |
| 05:47.55 | elmstfreddie | O.o |
| 05:47.58 | ekcolnovkol | :< |
| 05:48.04 | elmstfreddie | It uses its own script :P |
| 05:48.10 | ekcolnovkol | bah |
| 05:48.14 | elmstfreddie | just use the GUI |
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| 05:49.19 | elmstfreddie | Anyway, I can't seem to find a way for triggers to find the bounty value of a unit |
| 05:49.48 | MavercK | niether. i did it another way |
| 05:50.04 | MavercK | with an array integer that held all those values |
| 05:50.09 | ekcolnovkol | yeah that's the thing |
| 05:50.23 | ekcolnovkol | the array integer should be from the global tables |
| 05:50.27 | ekcolnovkol | i just don't know how to target them |
| 05:50.29 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 05:52.17 | elmstfreddie | jhold on, may have found something interesting |
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| 05:52.30 | onetwo | im back |
| 05:52.47 | onetwo | damn my sign-on name was onetwo aka god |
| 05:52.50 | onetwo | and it cut off aka god |
| 05:52.54 | onetwo | i guess god has spoken that im not god |
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| 05:55.09 | onetwo | Reactorex |
| 05:55.10 | onetwo | ugh |
| 05:55.16 | Reactorex | Hi? |
| 05:55.17 | onetwo | it didnt |
| 05:55.19 | onetwo | work |
| 05:55.19 | fatal510 | can you copy and paste units from another map? |
| 05:55.23 | onetwo | the attributes |
| 05:55.25 | onetwo | thing |
| 05:55.30 | Reactorex | Doesn't load it? |
| 05:55.41 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.45 | onetwo | i do that |
| 05:55.47 | Reactorex | Also, a switch would've been better than the if then else multiple... which I only just found out about. |
| 05:55.49 | onetwo | for 2,3,5,7 |
| 05:55.53 | onetwo | oh kk |
| 05:55.56 | onetwo | but anyway |
| 05:56.01 | onetwo | then i check at the end of the round |
| 05:56.04 | onetwo | and it just went game over |
| 05:56.05 | onetwo | on the first round |
| 05:56.07 | onetwo | when it was set 3 |
| 05:56.26 | onetwo | so i dont think its getting set |
| 05:56.29 | onetwo | max rounds that is |
| 05:56.49 | fatal510 | i feel like i got alot done today on my map but there is barely anything done |
| 05:57.04 | Reactorex | Hmn |
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| 05:57.17 | Reactorex | Try running it AFTER map initialization. |
| 05:57.29 | Reactorex | I knew there were a few things in WC3 that you couldn't do on map initialiation. |
| 05:57.35 | Reactorex | Time elapsed - 0.0001 seconds |
| 05:57.41 | Reactorex | If game attribute... etc... |
| 05:57.46 | probalon | can anyone tell me how to create a zealot actor death animation at a specified point using triggers? |
| 05:57.46 | Reactorex | Rather, switch. |
| 05:57.52 | Reactorex | I so need to start using that. |
| 05:58.03 | Reactorex | I can try, prob. |
| 05:58.10 | Reactorex | How is the point specified? |
| 05:58.12 | probalon | that would be appreciated |
| 05:58.22 | Reactorex | In the terrain editor using the points layer or from some event? |
| 05:58.23 | probalon | well the point is just a point |
| 05:58.30 | onetwo | k |
| 05:58.31 | probalon | the first one |
| 05:58.39 | Reactorex | So it's a static point. |
| 05:58.44 | probalon | yes a static one |
| 05:58.45 | Reactorex | Not potentially dynamic. |
| 05:58.47 | Reactorex | Okay. |
| 05:59.19 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/squadrion-tactics/. Squadrion Tactics (Working Title). Ardnived (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Bifuu. |
| 05:59.29 | probalon | downloading |
| 05:59.34 | probalon | while I wait for halp :P |
| 05:59.48 | fatal510 | hey onetwo, did you get rid of some of your older videos on youtube? |
| 05:59.50 | Reactorex | Create Actor At Point -- Actor (Zealot_Death) // Position: (Your point here) |
| 05:59.55 | Reactorex | Did that actor not work? |
| 06:00.04 | Reactorex | If it didn't, there's another method that you can use. |
| 06:00.10 | onetwo | no fatal, why? |
| 06:00.28 | Bifuu | o hai |
| 06:00.38 | Reactorex | ohai! |
| 06:00.44 | fatal510 | channel is OneTwoSC right> |
| 06:00.45 | fatal510 | ? |
| 06:01.07 | onetwo | yes |
| 06:01.09 | Reactorex | Yep |
| 06:01.09 | probalon | dang no download on your link repo |
| 06:01.14 | fatal510 | oh i see what you did |
| 06:01.18 | fatal510 | it only looks like there is less videos |
| 06:01.21 | fatal510 | but when you click on it |
| 06:01.23 | fatal510 | its like a playlist |
| 06:01.26 | fatal510 | it has the rest of them |
| 06:01.26 | probalon | reactorx thank you, I will test it out right now |
| 06:01.32 | ekcolnovkol | how do i add a behaviour |
| 06:01.35 | probalon | *Reactorex |
| 06:01.39 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:01.52 | Reactorex | Reactor, Rea, Reactorx, Reactorex.. however you want to spell it :P |
| 06:01.57 | probalon | haha |
| 06:01.59 | Reactorex | As long as you don't call me late for dinner. o.o |
| 06:02.10 | probalon | I am not eating dinner for a week |
| 06:02.13 | probalon | after today |
| 06:02.21 | Reactorex | Weight? Or health? |
| 06:02.33 | probalon | I just ate way too much, I feel sick. |
| 06:02.38 | probalon | but it felt good while I was eating |
| 06:02.41 | probalon | damn good |
| 06:02.44 | Reactorex | I don't eat dinner except once a week, anyways. xD I'm usually too caught up in coding. |
| 06:02.57 | elmstfreddie | o.o |
| 06:02.58 | elmstfreddie | Wow |
| 06:02.59 | probalon | ya don't have time for much else if you program lol |
| 06:03.00 | elmstfreddie | I eat like 4 meals a day |
| 06:03.06 | Reactorex | I eat 1. |
| 06:03.10 | Reactorex | I don't wake up in time for breakfast. |
| 06:03.13 | elmstfreddie | and beofr eyou imagine some fat ddue I'm a teenager with a metabolism that's ridiculously high |
| 06:03.16 | elmstfreddie | so I'm skinny nerd :P |
| 06:03.17 | Reactorex | I stay up too late coding.. :P |
| 06:03.19 | probalon | alright I'm going away from chat for a bit to test out actor trigger |
| 06:03.21 | Reactorex | It's 1 AM here. |
| 06:03.28 | elmstfreddie | yeah I don't make breakfast either xD but I make up for it with 2 extra meals |
| 06:03.36 | Reactorex | I wind up weighing 120lb. |
| 06:03.38 | elmstfreddie | 'tis midnight here |
| 06:03.42 | elmstfreddie | how tall are you |
| 06:03.46 | Reactorex | About 6 feet. |
| 06:03.49 | Reactorex | 5"11. |
| 06:03.50 | elmstfreddie | wow |
| 06:03.51 | Reactorex | 5'11* |
| 06:03.56 | elmstfreddie | I'm the same, but 140lbs |
| 06:03.59 | elmstfreddie | 120 is like |
| 06:03.59 | elmstfreddie | tiny |
| 06:04.01 | elmstfreddie | skeletor |
| 06:04.04 | Reactorex | xD |
| 06:04.09 | Reactorex | But I'm also muscular to an extent. |
| 06:04.17 | Reactorex | I do martial arts. |
| 06:04.21 | elmstfreddie | that's just weird then |
| 06:04.24 | elmstfreddie | muscle should make you more than 120 |
| 06:04.26 | Reactorex | So I'm just weird. |
| 06:04.28 | elmstfreddie | especially being 5'11" |
| 06:04.34 | elmstfreddie | Nah, anti-matter isn't THAT weird. |
| 06:04.39 | Reactorex | No. |
| 06:04.40 | Reactorex | I'm weird. |
| 06:04.48 | Reactorex | Not anti-matter being weird. |
| 06:04.57 | Reactorex | I'm from out of state, y'ken. |
| 06:05.06 | elmstfreddie | y'ken? |
| 06:05.11 | Reactorex | You know? |
| 06:05.24 | elmstfreddie | what the heck does the en part mean then. |
| 06:05.47 | Reactorex | It's not a symbolization. |
| 06:05.58 | Reactorex | It's a dialect, IIRC. |
| 06:06.13 | elmstfreddie | this is the only IRC I've ever been on in my life |
| 06:06.15 | elmstfreddie | so.. |
| 06:06.22 | Reactorex | if I remember correctly. |
| 06:06.31 | MavercK | lol... |
| 06:06.45 | Reactorex | elmstfreddie, you're doing this on purpose! |
| 06:06.51 | Reactorex | I swear it. |
| 06:07.00 | elmstfreddie | uhh.. |
| 06:07.07 | elmstfreddie | I wish I knew how to do that back |
| 06:07.13 | elmstfreddie | but... anyway I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 06:07.15 | Reactorex | More surely than Martul QQ's about MPQs every 5 minutes to an hour. |
| 06:07.39 | Reactorex | So what were we talking about BEFORE our weight? XD |
| 06:07.50 | Reactorex | Oh, right. |
| 06:07.55 | Reactorex | I see how this happened. |
| 06:07.57 | elmstfreddie | Nothing? |
| 06:08.07 | elmstfreddie | we weren't talking abuot anything. that's why we struck a convo |
| 06:08.09 | Reactorex | Thank you, scroll bar. |
| 06:08.38 | onetwo | guys |
| 06:08.53 | elmstfreddie | yes? |
| 06:08.55 | onetwo | why wont blizzard let us override mpq with imports? |
| 06:08.59 | onetwo | stupid blizzard... |
| 06:09.06 | MavercK | lol |
| 06:09.10 | onetwo | there are you satisfied |
| 06:09.10 | elmstfreddie | their servers |
| 06:09.17 | Reactorex | XD |
| 06:09.19 | Reactorex | Yes. :P |
| 06:09.26 | elmstfreddie | lol |
| 06:09.33 | onetwo | i like how its stupid blizzard |
| 06:09.35 | elmstfreddie | I thought you were serious, and I was worried I would be asked to elaborate |
| 06:09.36 | onetwo | that line alone is hilarious to me |
| 06:09.46 | Reactorex | Any luck with the after-map-initialization? |
| 06:09.48 | elmstfreddie | because.. i saw some guy said it screws over their servers earlier |
| 06:09.49 | onetwo | nope |
| 06:09.50 | elmstfreddie | and sorta ran with that |
| 06:09.52 | heysparky | I know? |
| 06:09.57 | onetwo | i made it display a message too |
| 06:10.02 | onetwo | and nothing popped up |
| 06:10.03 | elmstfreddie | Okay, well, what's the problem |
| 06:10.05 | onetwo | from any if statement |
| 06:10.09 | Reactorex | Interesting. |
| 06:10.22 | Reactorex | Apparently, it's running it. |
| 06:10.27 | elmstfreddie | You and me could write a bad romance, oh wow wow ohhh. |
| 06:10.30 | Reactorex | But the values aren't matching. |
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| 06:10.44 | elmstfreddie | What's the issue, I can provide insight! |
| 06:10.50 | Reactorex | Game Variants. |
| 06:10.58 | elmstfreddie | What about them |
| 06:11.04 | Reactorex | Custom ones. |
| 06:11.25 | onetwo | we made a custom game attribute |
| 06:11.27 | onetwo | called Rounds |
| 06:11.30 | onetwo | with values 1,2,3,5,7 |
| 06:11.33 | Reactorex | I hear chirping. |
| 06:11.44 | onetwo | and its something you can set in the game lobby |
| 06:11.46 | Reactorex | Crickets. :> |
| 06:11.47 | onetwo | default set to 3 |
| 06:11.53 | onetwo | and anyway |
| 06:11.58 | onetwo | im trying to do the comparison in triggers |
| 06:12.01 | Reactorex | Oh, onetwo, one thing... |
| 06:12.04 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.07 | onetwo | thats the global var |
| 06:12.08 | Reactorex | I'd default the integer to 3, as wel :P |
| 06:12.17 | Reactorex | Won't make a diff., but might as well default both to the sa,e. |
| 06:12.19 | onetwo | it should default to 3 |
| 06:12.26 | onetwo | and i want to leave it at 0 for testing for now |
| 06:12.32 | Reactorex | Mmk :P |
| 06:13.09 | Reactorex | Are you testing via publish -> start? |
| 06:13.13 | Reactorex | Or via test map document? |
| 06:14.16 | onetwo | both |
| 06:14.18 | onetwo | did same thing |
| 06:14.19 | onetwo | one sec |
| 06:14.20 | onetwo | trying something |
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| 06:15.39 | onetwo | and an odd note |
| 06:15.47 | onetwo | if you set publishing to private but have proper game variants |
| 06:15.52 | onetwo | you can still make it public |
| 06:15.53 | onetwo | in lobby |
| 06:16.04 | Reactorex | Yep. |
| 06:16.11 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:16.20 | Reactorex | If it's public, I don't think other people can create the game, however. |
| 06:16.26 | Reactorex | It's only visible by you in the create games list. |
| 06:16.34 | elmstfreddie | okay just figured out what you guys are trying to do |
| 06:16.38 | Reactorex | At least, that's what documentation says |
| 06:16.40 | elmstfreddie | lol |
| 06:16.40 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:16.55 | onetwo | sec going to test |
| 06:17.52 | elmstfreddie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.56 | elmstfreddie | Why does mine look diff from yours? |
| 06:18.27 | elmstfreddie | "Attribute Game Value" as value 1 |
| 06:19.27 | probalon | reactorex, it doesn't seem to be working |
| 06:19.49 | Reactorex | Okay. |
| 06:20.02 | Reactorex | Create a Zealot actor and create an actor message and apply to actor (Last created actor) |
| 06:20.07 | Reactorex | Make it play the death animation. |
| 06:20.37 | Reactorex | Should do it. |
| 06:20.37 | probalon | all done in triggers? |
| 06:20.43 | onetwo | good news |
| 06:20.44 | onetwo | it works |
| 06:20.50 | Reactorex | YEp. |
| 06:20.53 | onetwo | on map init even |
| 06:20.54 | Reactorex | WOOT. |
| 06:20.55 | Reactorex | What'd you change? |
| 06:21.06 | onetwo | issue: dont set it as a global var's initial value, in fact dont use variable at all |
| 06:21.11 | onetwo | just make the if statement |
| 06:21.19 | onetwo | comparison for condition |
| 06:21.23 | elmstfreddie | so, what I said? >_> |
| 06:21.25 | elmstfreddie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.29 | onetwo | yes |
| 06:21.30 | elmstfreddie | except, change stuf around |
| 06:21.34 | elmstfreddie | ddin't know what I was doing when I first made it |
| 06:21.34 | elmstfreddie | lmao |
| 06:21.36 | Reactorex | Don't set what? |
| 06:21.44 | elmstfreddie | anyway, trying to figure out wth you guys were doing taught me something valuable |
| 06:21.45 | elmstfreddie | ;D |
| 06:21.49 | onetwo | i made it a global var that got the value |
| 06:21.51 | onetwo | from the attribute |
| 06:21.56 | onetwo | thats wrong thing to do for some reason |
| 06:22.02 | onetwo | you just have to do it on the fly |
| 06:22.04 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 06:22.04 | onetwo | in the if statement |
| 06:22.15 | elmstfreddie | doesn't really matter, seeing as it's not going to change value |
| 06:22.18 | Reactorex | Mm? |
| 06:22.20 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:22.25 | onetwo | so heres how it is |
| 06:22.35 | elmstfreddie | instead of variable = value of game attribute |
| 06:22.41 | elmstfreddie | you just directly compare value of game attribute |
| 06:22.58 | Reactorex | elmstfreddie: probably one in fifty map makers use game attributes or know how to do it/have a reason to do it |
| 06:22.59 | Reactorex | :P |
| 06:23.05 | onetwo | http://pastebin.com/J8QUhuZt |
| 06:23.23 | onetwo | before instead of Rounds game value |
| 06:23.24 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 06:23.28 | onetwo | i had it using my global var |
| 06:23.34 | onetwo | which got rounds game value as its initial value |
| 06:23.37 | onetwo | dont do that |
| 06:23.41 | Reactorex | lawl, ah. |
| 06:23.42 | onetwo | is the moral of the story here |
| 06:23.43 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:23.45 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 06:23.46 | Reactorex | No |
| 06:23.47 | Reactorex | . |
| 06:23.48 | Reactorex | xD |
| 06:24.02 | Reactorex | The way you've got it now is how I told ya to the first time. xD |
| 06:24.03 | onetwo | other than that, awesome job |
| 06:24.06 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:24.10 | Reactorex | Still, I'd suggest a switch. |
| 06:24.14 | Reactorex | It might be more efficient in the code. |
| 06:24.15 | onetwo | i think i will |
| 06:24.16 | Reactorex | A bit faster. |
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| 06:24.21 | Reactorex | I've got one right now. :D |
| 06:24.25 | Reactorex | It's very short, should be faster... |
| 06:24.30 | Reactorex | And I think it works. |
| 06:24.56 | Reactorex | Game attributes was the second thing I opened in the SC2 editor. |
| 06:25.04 | Reactorex | Trigger editor was the first. |
| 06:25.12 | Reactorex | Terrain editor was open by default. |
| 06:25.16 | onetwo | i also had about 3-4 occasions of refreshing which weapon/class dialog buttons should be grayed for a player (eg when they gain points for certain tiers) |
| 06:25.26 | onetwo | and now i changed it to call an action definition |
| 06:25.32 | onetwo | passing in player and the attacking unit etc |
| 06:25.38 | onetwo | so cut down on code that way too |
| 06:25.41 | Reactorex | Nice. |
| 06:25.48 | onetwo | i love the new editor |
| 06:25.48 | onetwo | :D |
| 06:25.52 | Reactorex | :P |
| 06:25.53 | Reactorex | So do I |
| 06:26.02 | elmstfreddie | I do too, I just hate BNet 2.0 |
| 06:26.08 | Reactorex | Galaxy (language) -- <3 |
| 06:26.09 | elmstfreddie | actually no that's a lie I still struggle with the data editor |
| 06:26.21 | onetwo | its got the power of a real language, but the nice high-level GUI we all want |
| 06:26.23 | onetwo | in real coding |
| 06:26.35 | onetwo | i think the next step after C++/Java/C# is going to be like triggers |
| 06:26.37 | Reactorex | Eh. |
| 06:26.38 | onetwo | or something like that |
| 06:26.45 | onetwo | why bother looking in an API and making random typos |
| 06:26.49 | onetwo | when you can use lists etc |
| 06:26.52 | onetwo | actions |
| 06:26.57 | Reactorex | It doesn't have the same power as a full C language. |
| 06:27.01 | onetwo | BUT |
| 06:27.03 | Reactorex | It's missing some essential stuff. |
| 06:27.03 | onetwo | im saying |
| 06:27.09 | onetwo | the next "language" might be like it |
| 06:27.15 | onetwo | gui-based programming |
| 06:27.17 | Reactorex | Oh fuck yeah |
| 06:27.17 | onetwo | instead of text-based |
| 06:27.25 | Reactorex | Now I can click my list dialog and have it refresh on the psot. |
| 06:27.26 | onetwo | i think C++ and shit is getting out of date |
| 06:27.27 | Reactorex | spot* |
| 06:27.29 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:27.31 | Reactorex | What I was trying to do to begin with. |
| 06:27.34 | Reactorex | :D |
| 06:27.54 | Reactorex | Now I've just got to debug one of these list values. |
| 06:28.00 | Reactorex | It doesn't update the description. |
| 06:28.08 | elmstfreddie | to be fair onetwo, back when I used to map in wc3 a lot, JASS was a lot faster than GUI |
| 06:28.23 | onetwo | but you have to know exactly what youre typing |
| 06:28.25 | onetwo | i have no idea |
| 06:28.26 | Reactorex | Oh yeah. |
| 06:28.28 | onetwo | unit - create unit |
| 06:28.30 | Reactorex | And GUI leaked a lot. |
| 06:28.30 | onetwo | do that action using Galaxy |
| 06:28.32 | Reactorex | >_> |
| 06:28.32 | onetwo | if you asked me to do that |
| 06:28.33 | onetwo | i couldnt |
| 06:28.43 | onetwo | i dont know the syntax |
| 06:28.44 | Reactorex | I can. :D |
| 06:28.46 | elmstfreddie | call CreateUnit(a,bunch,of,crap,I,forget,now) |
| 06:28.52 | onetwo | exactly |
| 06:28.53 | onetwo | triggers remove the need |
| 06:28.54 | onetwo | to look up crap |
| 06:28.57 | onetwo | like that |
| 06:28.57 | elmstfreddie | haha, well, |
| 06:29.03 | elmstfreddie | JASSCraft would tell you the takes of a function |
| 06:29.06 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:29.07 | elmstfreddie | so... yeah... |
| 06:29.13 | elmstfreddie | so long as you knew the functions (which you got to know pre quick) |
| 06:29.18 | onetwo | in some ways of course its faster |
| 06:29.21 | elmstfreddie | you would just type it in and right there would be the takes xD |
| 06:29.28 | onetwo | but you never have to make a typo error |
| 06:29.32 | elmstfreddie | I guess that still classifies as a GUI huh? :/ |
| 06:29.33 | elmstfreddie | True. |
| 06:29.34 | onetwo | because youre forced to really enter/click values |
| 06:29.42 | elmstfreddie | lol |
| 06:29.44 | onetwo | both are good/bad |
| 06:29.45 | onetwo | in ways |
| 06:29.46 | elmstfreddie | worst part is like a paragraph of code |
| 06:29.47 | elmstfreddie | and |
| 06:29.49 | onetwo | haha yeah |
| 06:29.50 | elmstfreddie | you're missing a bracket |
| 06:29.50 | elmstfreddie | :( |
| 06:29.53 | onetwo | totally |
| 06:30.01 | onetwo | but as languages get higher and higher |
| 06:30.04 | onetwo | memory wasteage gets higher and higher |
| 06:30.06 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:30.18 | elmstfreddie | yer. btw, speaking of memory |
| 06:30.22 | elmstfreddie | does GUI in this leak at all |
| 06:30.25 | onetwo | no idea |
| 06:30.26 | elmstfreddie | I know it's not supposed to, but, well. |
| 06:30.44 | elmstfreddie | lol, time to test "move (unit) to (position of(unit))" |
| 06:30.47 | elmstfreddie | every 0.001!!! :D |
| 06:31.00 | onetwo | lol |
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| 06:31.58 | elmstfreddie | have it running a tonne of times as welll |
| 06:32.00 | elmstfreddie | kk let's see this lol |
| 06:33.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:33.26 | elmstfreddie | from 547k -> 544? |
| 06:33.29 | elmstfreddie | Well, anyway, doesn't leak. |
| 06:33.40 | onetwo | nice |
| 06:33.43 | Reactorex | libNtve_gf_CreateUNitsWithDefaultFacing(amount, unitname, flags, player, position); |
| 06:33.48 | onetwo | make some dialoges and remove them |
| 06:33.55 | *** join/#sc2mapster casperb (~50cb3b20@gateway/web/freenode/x-mrhrxerzzxsuzhwy) |
| 06:33.56 | onetwo | hahaha reactorex |
| 06:34.01 | onetwo | 3 hours later.. I FOUND IT! |
| 06:34.05 | onetwo | *pastes in* |
| 06:34.05 | elmstfreddie | hahahaha. |
| 06:34.12 | elmstfreddie | "position" |
| 06:34.17 | elmstfreddie | lame. |
| 06:34.19 | Reactorex | I can't paste. |
| 06:34.20 | elmstfreddie | used to be x, y |
| 06:34.21 | Reactorex | :P |
| 06:34.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:34.26 | elmstfreddie | I don't like working with "positions" except in GUI :P |
| 06:34.29 | Reactorex | elmstfreddie: position is better. |
| 06:34.30 | Reactorex | xP |
| 06:34.33 | elmstfreddie | Dialogues? aight here we go lol |
| 06:34.34 | Reactorex | It's a point. |
| 06:34.37 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:34.40 | Reactorex | A 3d point, I think. |
| 06:35.06 | Reactorex | You can get x y z from the point if you want, or feed x y z to create a point. |
| 06:35.12 | Reactorex | Or just x y if you only want ground height. |
| 06:35.15 | elmstfreddie | So, create dialogue then destroy onetwo? >.> |
| 06:35.34 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:35.37 | onetwo | try that |
| 06:35.38 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:35.43 | elmstfreddie | aight |
| 06:35.49 | onetwo | there must be a flaw in this "super editor" |
| 06:36.01 | onetwo | who does it think it is huh |
| 06:36.05 | onetwo | being all useful and lag-free |
| 06:36.16 | Reactorex | native unitgroup UnitCreate ( int amount, string unittype, int flags, int player, point position, fixed facing ); |
| 06:36.24 | onetwo | unlike its close friend, _ _ _ _ _._ |
| 06:36.46 | elmstfreddie | DAMMIT! 551 -> 538 |
| 06:36.50 | elmstfreddie | This game not only doesn't leak |
| 06:36.52 | elmstfreddie | IT CREATES MEMORY!!! |
| 06:37.00 | onetwo | nice |
| 06:37.01 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 06:37.03 | Reactorex | onetwo: |
| 06:37.05 | Reactorex | Mine is SO not lag-free. |
| 06:37.05 | elmstfreddie | lmao yeah no leaks though |
| 06:37.14 | elmstfreddie | brb, switching comps |
| 06:37.20 | onetwo | mine runs smoother than a babys bottom |
| 06:37.32 | Reactorex | Try opening my chat function trigger... |
| 06:37.41 | onetwo | you need to contract out to india |
| 06:37.43 | onetwo | reactorex |
| 06:37.43 | Reactorex | It'll take 2-3 seconds to load at least. |
| 06:37.46 | onetwo | thats your issue |
| 06:38.03 | onetwo | and yeah |
| 06:38.08 | onetwo | that happens |
| 06:38.13 | onetwo | do a save/load trigger |
| 06:38.14 | Reactorex | I've got five custom functions called about 2-3 times each in here, |
| 06:38.15 | onetwo | from war3 |
| 06:38.18 | onetwo | those were insanely long |
| 06:38.38 | Reactorex | I've SEEN those. |
| 06:38.44 | Reactorex | They're about a third of the length of this. |
| 06:38.47 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:38.47 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:38.53 | Reactorex | This has about 500 actions in it. |
| 06:39.03 | Reactorex | Including my custom functions that reduce about 40 lines each. |
| 06:39.28 | Reactorex | And it references to other triggers, too. |
| 06:39.38 | Reactorex | It's my master trigger. |
| 06:39.50 | Reactorex | Filters the chat box and clears it. |
| 06:40.55 | Reactorex | btw, my first attempt at making the game rounds was successful. :D |
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| 06:41.05 | Reactorex | I used a switch, a global int variable, and the game attribute. |
| 06:41.07 | elmstfreddie | Miss me? |
| 06:41.13 | Reactorex | YES. |
| 06:41.16 | elmstfreddie | <3 |
| 06:41.18 | Reactorex | humps elmstfreddie. |
| 06:41.21 | Reactorex | I mean.. |
| 06:41.26 | Reactorex | O:) |
| 06:41.28 | elmstfreddie | Anyway, uh, question: When I was looking at the game attribute thing -- uhh.. |
| 06:41.31 | elmstfreddie | I just got humped... |
| 06:41.33 | elmstfreddie | anyway... |
| 06:41.38 | Reactorex | XD |
| 06:41.43 | elmstfreddie | What was the deal with locked/unlocked or w/e >_> |
| 06:41.50 | elmstfreddie | like, on the last tab |
| 06:41.56 | Reactorex | If it's unlocked, you can change it. |
| 06:42.03 | Reactorex | If it's locked, the host can't modify it. |
| 06:42.06 | elmstfreddie | so what's the point of lcoking one, ever. |
| 06:42.26 | Reactorex | Default attributes. |
| 06:42.35 | Reactorex | Say you want to lock teams to custom teams.... so you CANNOT change that. |
| 06:42.36 | elmstfreddie | 'splain |
| 06:42.39 | Reactorex | Set it to locked. |
| 06:42.49 | Reactorex | It'll be set to Custom Teams. permanently. |
| 06:42.50 | elmstfreddie | Ah |
| 06:42.55 | Reactorex | Say you want to lock the players' colors, too. |
| 06:42.57 | elmstfreddie | Okayokay, so, it's useless for custom attributes |
| 06:42.58 | elmstfreddie | but |
| 06:43.00 | casperb | How would you guys prefer implement a cluster projectile? I'm thinking missile -> persist -> secondary missile -> damage |
| 06:43.01 | Reactorex | Choose their colors and lock them. |
| 06:43.04 | elmstfreddie | useful on default attributes |
| 06:43.04 | Reactorex | Not necessarily, elmst. |
| 06:43.15 | Reactorex | Say you have a custom attribute that's unlocked for beta testing. |
| 06:43.17 | Reactorex | But locked for public. |
| 06:43.34 | Reactorex | So it's there, but you can do quick changes during beta runs. |
| 06:43.49 | Reactorex | You can also hide the field for public. |
| 06:44.05 | elmstfreddie | ah... |
| 06:44.18 | elmstfreddie | Is there a way to make it so only the map publisher can change a certain attribute? |
| 06:44.22 | Reactorex | casperb: AsaPhelps set up a sort of cluster. |
| 06:44.23 | elmstfreddie | so I can have like a secret mode for myself? |
| 06:44.59 | Reactorex | I haven't played around with it THAT much, freddie :P |
| 06:45.06 | elmstfreddie | haha okay okay. |
| 06:45.13 | Reactorex | But it doesn't seem that there is an option for publisher. |
| 06:45.22 | Reactorex | Only host, self, none, and all for each. |
| 06:45.36 | elmstfreddie | all? so all players can modify a game attribute?! |
| 06:45.41 | elmstfreddie | oh,t he chaos.. love it |
| 06:45.42 | onetwo | no |
| 06:45.45 | onetwo | when you make a game attribute |
| 06:45.48 | Reactorex | For the rounds attribute, it's visible by all byt only modifiable by the host. |
| 06:45.50 | onetwo | you can set it to be player or Game |
| 06:45.54 | onetwo | and if only host can set it |
| 06:45.56 | Reactorex | Right. |
| 06:46.02 | Reactorex | Game is ont he right. |
| 06:46.09 | Reactorex | Player is on the player's bar. |
| 06:46.10 | elmstfreddie | I know |
| 06:46.17 | elmstfreddie | But can all palyers modify game attributes |
| 06:46.19 | Reactorex | You can set the access: self only for player so they can decide stuff. |
| 06:46.25 | Reactorex | Sure. |
| 06:46.25 | elmstfreddie | or is the "all" option only ever available for player attributes |
| 06:46.28 | Reactorex | IF you set it up to be that way. |
| 06:46.35 | casperb | Reactorex: link? my google fu was inadequate |
| 06:46.36 | Reactorex | So it seems you can, at least. |
| 06:46.48 | ekcolnovkol | can someone tell me how to to disable "your allie's base is under attack" ;< |
| 06:46.48 | elmstfreddie | heh. |
| 06:46.51 | Reactorex | casperb: Missile Command |
| 06:46.58 | Reactorex | The really annoying colored name map. |
| 06:47.28 | elmstfreddie | brb... gonna download sc2 onto laptop |
| 06:47.30 | Reactorex | ekcolnovkol... |
| 06:47.32 | Reactorex | data editor. |
| 06:47.40 | Reactorex | I saw it once. ONCE. under there. |
| 06:47.46 | elmstfreddie | actually, no I will not. I doubt my laptop can run GE even nice enough |
| 06:47.51 | elmstfreddie | yeah, data editor |
| 06:47.57 | Reactorex | I'm running GE on a laptop. |
| 06:48.03 | elmstfreddie | yeah but my laptop is shit |
| 06:48.05 | ekcolnovkol | ;< |
| 06:48.07 | Reactorex | :P |
| 06:48.07 | elmstfreddie | Uhm, ekcol |
| 06:48.10 | Reactorex | Pwned. x3 |
| 06:48.14 | ekcolnovkol | yes? |
| 06:48.22 | elmstfreddie | That setting in wc3 was in map preferences.. which are now all in the data editor |
| 06:48.30 | ekcolnovkol | thanks |
| 06:48.31 | elmstfreddie | so, reactor is right.. dig through the data editor <:D |
| 06:48.59 | ekcolnovkol | there's an overwhelming amount of information, i typically ask here for pointers ;D |
| 06:49.14 | Reactorex | Oh shit |
| 06:49.18 | Reactorex | I think I just crashed my editor... |
| 06:49.20 | Reactorex | before I saved. |
| 06:49.24 | ekcolnovkol | fffffff |
| 06:49.35 | Reactorex | Thank you autosave. :D |
| 06:49.42 | Reactorex | At least I won't lose anything. |
| 06:49.52 | Reactorex | Yup, crashed it. |
| 06:49.53 | Reactorex | :P |
| 06:49.56 | elmstfreddie | I obsessively save with GE |
| 06:50.02 | Reactorex | Same. |
| 06:50.16 | Reactorex | My only changes were screwing around with the attributes. |
| 06:50.22 | elmstfreddie | yeah |
| 06:50.30 | elmstfreddie | I only don't save if I'm juts testing crap out to see how stuff works |
| 06:50.34 | elmstfreddie | otherwise it's like |
| 06:50.38 | elmstfreddie | every new action = save |
| 06:50.54 | elmstfreddie | basically like how every sentence in word I save... |
| 06:51.16 | Reactorex | I save every paragraph. |
| 06:51.26 | Reactorex | I dish them out in 30 seconds, anyways >_> |
| 06:52.11 | onetwo | sorry im unresponsive atm |
| 06:52.17 | elmstfreddie | meh, I'm not in english this semester, so most stuff I'm doing is science which means that which would take a paragarph in english would take a few words in science |
| 06:52.19 | onetwo | redoing the weapon/class system triggers |
| 06:52.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:52.27 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/blood-pressure-marathon/. Blood Pressure Marathon. Ver8 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 06:52.55 | elmstfreddie | ... Blood Pressure..? That sounds fun |
| 06:53.09 | elmstfreddie | Hypertension is like, my favourite thing, ever. especially in game form |
| 06:54.00 | elmstfreddie | btw guys: key to a good game is a good name! |
| 06:54.06 | elmstfreddie | anyway, |
| 06:54.11 | elmstfreddie | Onetwo, what map are you even working on? |
| 06:54.31 | elmstfreddie | And are you and reactorex working together on it? |
| 06:54.34 | onetwo | infection still |
| 06:54.39 | Reactorex | Nope. |
| 06:54.44 | Reactorex | Only onetwo. |
| 06:54.46 | Reactorex | I do testing. :P |
| 06:54.50 | elmstfreddie | Oh okay xD |
| 06:54.52 | Reactorex | Because I pester him more than anyone else XD |
| 06:54.54 | onetwo | nope but hes my lead design tester |
| 06:54.57 | elmstfreddie | Never played it. My friend said it was lame.... xDD |
| 06:54.58 | onetwo | i invented a title |
| 06:55.09 | Reactorex | XD |
| 06:55.11 | onetwo | well i had marginally bad versions on the top |
| 06:55.14 | onetwo | originally |
| 06:55.17 | onetwo | then once i fixed everything |
| 06:55.19 | Reactorex | elmstfreddie, it's in no way lame :P |
| 06:55.20 | onetwo | it became mostly a niche game |
| 06:55.24 | elmstfreddie | this was first day custom maps worked |
| 06:55.29 | onetwo | its probably the most complete map that was on the list |
| 06:55.35 | elmstfreddie | like, before it went down for a couple days even |
| 06:55.36 | onetwo | ive played all the other ones |
| 06:55.38 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:55.40 | Reactorex | I thought it was even better on the first day :P |
| 06:55.41 | onetwo | yeah it was popular on that day |
| 06:55.49 | elmstfreddie | ye. |
| 06:55.51 | Reactorex | But it was so rigged. |
| 06:55.54 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:55.58 | elmstfreddie | Anyway, I'll try it out some time because it sounds not lame. |
| 06:56.01 | onetwo | people seem to like rigged though |
| 06:56.03 | Reactorex | Auto-acquire = insta-win for a human. |
| 06:56.05 | onetwo | look at the popular maps |
| 06:56.06 | onetwo | hhaah |
| 06:56.08 | fatal510 | i got a question about switches who can kelp me? |
| 06:56.10 | Reactorex | Sure as hell do, onetwo. |
| 06:56.15 | fatal510 | help* |
| 06:56.18 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:56.19 | elmstfreddie | Fatal, we can all help.. just ask away |
| 06:56.26 | Reactorex | Why do you think the balanced versions of anything always disappear? |
| 06:56.30 | onetwo | no idea |
| 06:56.37 | Reactorex | LoaP, angel arena, etc. |
| 06:56.40 | onetwo | why do bad movies make $900 million? |
| 06:56.47 | Reactorex | People like feeling rigged as fuck.p |
| 06:56.50 | onetwo | the general populare are idiots |
| 06:56.54 | onetwo | its something we just have to know |
| 06:57.01 | onetwo | populous* |
| 06:57.01 | elmstfreddie | Here's the bright side with this new publishing system |
| 06:57.08 | fatal510 | Alright well i have a switch and i want to be able to switch to a different case from inside of a case if a condition is true |
| 06:57.12 | elmstfreddie | People can remove old versions xD |
| 06:57.14 | Reactorex | General public, onetwo? |
| 06:57.16 | elmstfreddie | so we're forced to use balanced ones |
| 06:57.19 | onetwo | yeah public |
| 06:57.24 | Reactorex | :P |
| 06:57.31 | elmstfreddie | @fatal, what do you mean by "case"? |
| 06:57.32 | Reactorex | I knew how it was possible in C++, Fatal. |
| 06:57.32 | onetwo | ive got triggers on my brain not thinking |
| 06:57.35 | Reactorex | But not in Galaxy. |
| 06:57.36 | onetwo | , not thinking* |
| 06:57.45 | Reactorex | elmstfreddie: jstu that. |
| 06:57.48 | Reactorex | A switch uses cases. |
| 06:57.52 | Reactorex | just* |
| 06:58.03 | fatal510 | yeah^ |
| 06:58.20 | elmstfreddie | ... I'll pretend I understand |
| 06:58.49 | elmstfreddie | I probably do, just, lingo isn't clicking |
| 06:59.11 | fatal510 | http://pastebin.com/6tTu8itE |
| 06:59.16 | fatal510 | it looks like that |
| 06:59.56 | fatal510 | if the var returns true i want it to switch to the next case and run that one instead |
| 06:59.57 | Reactorex | fatal, here's one way: |
| 07:00.08 | Reactorex | Use a loop and a global variable, check to see if ti's at the end of the loop. |
| 07:00.21 | Reactorex | Use the global var for the loop. |
| 07:00.33 | Reactorex | Use a local var int for the case to go to. |
| 07:00.36 | onetwo | hey reactorex can you confirm that allied chat works for alliances set through triggers |
| 07:00.48 | Reactorex | Add one to the loop if you want to switch cases, and set the local var to the case you want to go to. |
| 07:00.50 | elmstfreddie | What's diff from this + using a tonne of if then elseifs? |
| 07:00.53 | onetwo | because right now i have massive loops doing "turn on allied chat for player" |
| 07:01.02 | onetwo | because it wasnt working for me before |
| 07:01.04 | Reactorex | onetwo: I think I can. |
| 07:01.14 | Reactorex | By default, allied chat was set for me in Infection. |
| 07:01.20 | onetwo | even in old versions? |
| 07:01.25 | onetwo | people were whining no allied chat |
| 07:01.28 | onetwo | and even i didnt have it |
| 07:01.31 | Reactorex | I can't say about that. |
| 07:01.33 | onetwo | k |
| 07:01.37 | onetwo | i put in stuff like this |
| 07:01.39 | Reactorex | But my allies could hear me. |
| 07:01.46 | elmstfreddie | He means the default chat |
| 07:01.50 | Reactorex | And the enemies couldn't, ofc. |
| 07:01.57 | elmstfreddie | like, press enter, and [All] vs [Ally] |
| 07:02.03 | fatal510 | reactorex - you lost me |
| 07:02.03 | onetwo | http://pastebin.com/TqvvLPYg |
| 07:02.04 | elmstfreddie | default used to be [All] |
| 07:02.09 | onetwo | thats what i do now on init |
| 07:02.14 | Reactorex | Elmstfreddie, All is the default still. |
| 07:02.21 | Reactorex | Allied is for allied chat, not Ally :P |
| 07:02.22 | onetwo | really? |
| 07:02.31 | onetwo | before i used to just do |
| 07:02.34 | Reactorex | onetwo, your triggers MIGHT change that. |
| 07:02.36 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.42 | onetwo | and apparently no allied chat worked |
| 07:02.48 | onetwo | cause originally my teams were FFA |
| 07:02.53 | onetwo | in variant |
| 07:02.55 | Reactorex | Ah. |
| 07:03.01 | Reactorex | Well, right now, they're all one team. |
| 07:03.02 | onetwo | but that shouldnt affect it |
| 07:03.04 | onetwo | yeah |
| 07:03.11 | onetwo | but when someone gets turned to infected from survivor |
| 07:03.17 | onetwo | i modify their alliance AND do this allied chat thing |
| 07:03.20 | onetwo | and currently it works |
| 07:03.25 | onetwo | but id like to delete this crap if i dont need it |
| 07:03.28 | onetwo | takes a lot of space |
| 07:03.30 | onetwo | doing double loops |
| 07:03.33 | Reactorex | Here's my suggestion: |
| 07:03.43 | Reactorex | Select the allied chat stuff and ctrl+i it. |
| 07:03.44 | onetwo | because its a one-way |
| 07:03.44 | onetwo | thing |
| 07:03.47 | Reactorex | Disable it. |
| 07:03.51 | onetwo | k |
| 07:03.54 | Reactorex | Re-enable it if it kills allied chat. |
| 07:04.00 | Reactorex | If it doesn't kill it, just delete it |
| 07:04.04 | onetwo | k |
| 07:04.12 | Reactorex | Easy, fast way to recover. |
| 07:04.14 | onetwo | can i just disable the Pick each in all players |
| 07:04.17 | onetwo | or do i need to disable each level of it |
| 07:04.18 | fatal510 | are you able to convert triggers into galaxy code and start editing from there |
| 07:04.25 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 07:04.27 | Reactorex | You can disable the pick. |
| 07:04.29 | Reactorex | That'll do it all. |
| 07:04.32 | onetwo | k thx |
| 07:04.34 | elmstfreddie | have a game attribute called "test allied chat" and have 1 mode disable the triggers and the other mode enable them |
| 07:04.38 | Reactorex | No, fatal. |
| 07:04.39 | elmstfreddie | that way you only ned to publish once!!! |
| 07:04.43 | Reactorex | There's no option for that. |
| 07:04.43 | elmstfreddie | ;P |
| 07:05.06 | Reactorex | However, you can view the galaxy code for your triggers, copy that, then delete the trigger information and paste it into a custom script. |
| 07:06.10 | fatal510 | i wonder if using galaxy code would let me switch cases while in a case |
| 07:06.26 | Reactorex | I don't see any function for it. |
| 07:06.44 | onetwo | haha freddie |
| 07:06.46 | onetwo | wtf |
| 07:06.47 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 07:06.58 | fatal510 | guess ill just use a bunch of if statements to do what i want to do instead of a case switch |
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| 07:07.42 | heysparky | so, tinting units - not possible? Is that the current wisdom? |
| 07:08.00 | Reactorex | Also, fatal, |
| 07:08.05 | fatal510 | anyone wanna give me a link to a list of all the galaxy api |
| 07:08.06 | Reactorex | Switches aren't REAL switches, anyways. |
| 07:08.10 | fatal510 | function list |
| 07:08.16 | Reactorex | It's really just an if elseif else. |
| 07:08.18 | JCup | u can tint unit heysparky |
| 07:08.24 | JCup | u have to do it through actor events |
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| 07:08.44 | JCup | u cant preset it which iss dummbbb |
| 07:09.17 | onetwo | i think they will add it to the data editor |
| 07:09.19 | onetwo | like it was in war3 |
| 07:09.22 | onetwo | eventually |
| 07:09.37 | Reactorex | So just use something that you can set to tell it which case to go to and that it needs to run again. |
| 07:09.39 | onetwo | they still blur some areas between actor and unit |
| 07:09.42 | onetwo | like you can set a unit's height |
| 07:09.45 | Reactorex | Isolate the switch, too. |
| 07:09.49 | onetwo | and itll move the actor's model |
| 07:09.51 | onetwo | to that height |
| 07:09.52 | Motive | Blarg! Lies! |
| 07:09.56 | Motive | In real languages, switches are switches. |
| 07:10.18 | heysparky | jcup - thanks... if I wanted to tie the tinting to an aura, where would I start? |
| 07:10.39 | elmstfreddie | eh, guys, it's late. I need to sleep. |
| 07:10.41 | Reactorex | In Galaxy, it just uses if (stuff) { ... } else if (stuff) { ... } else (stuff) { ... } |
| 07:10.43 | JCup | behavior on scope unit set tinting |
| 07:10.46 | Reactorex | I WISH it was a real switch. |
| 07:10.52 | elmstfreddie | Onetwo, want to add me so I can help test too, tomorrow though? |
| 07:10.56 | JCup | along the lines of that :o |
| 07:10.58 | Reactorex | It'd give me a few more options. :P |
| 07:11.34 | onetwo | sure |
| 07:11.40 | elmstfreddie | elmstfreddie@gmail.com |
| 07:11.41 | Reactorex | Any luck with the chat box, motive? |
| 07:11.42 | onetwo | k |
| 07:11.44 | elmstfreddie | SEE YOU ON THE BATTLE DOT NET |
| 07:11.47 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:11.48 | elmstfreddie | lol anyway good night all |
| 07:11.51 | onetwo | night |
| 07:11.59 | Motive | havent looked into it yet |
| 07:12.08 | Reactorex | I looked into it a bit. |
| 07:12.13 | Reactorex | For my 20 minutes trying, no dice. |
| 07:12.35 | Motive | I'll just break something, figure out how I broke it, then break it in a way that suits our purpose |
| 07:12.37 | Reactorex | Don't know if you can actually disable it yet. |
| 07:12.37 | Motive | Lol |
| 07:12.46 | Sixen | Motive, Mr. Galaxy Man. |
| 07:12.50 | Sixen | I'm expecting an AI from you. |
| 07:12.53 | Motive | Wat? |
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| 07:12.57 | Motive | Oh no. :( |
| 07:13.02 | Motive | I haven't even looked at AI. Haha |
| 07:13.04 | Reactorex | I planned to make an AI for a little while. |
| 07:13.10 | Motive | I don't even play melee. o_o |
| 07:13.10 | Sixen | Do it for the Contest! :P |
| 07:13.13 | Motive | Not one game. |
| 07:13.13 | Reactorex | rrowland or RickA was working on an AI earlier. |
| 07:13.14 | Motive | LOL |
| 07:13.16 | rrowland | AI is tough |
| 07:13.18 | Motive | Well |
| 07:13.19 | Reactorex | I tink it was rrowland. |
| 07:13.21 | Reactorex | think* |
| 07:13.24 | Motive | I'll try doing a 6-pool AI maybe, for zerg. |
| 07:13.25 | rrowland | Yeah it's me |
| 07:13.26 | Motive | That'd be fun. |
| 07:13.26 | Sixen | :P |
| 07:13.36 | Reactorex | That'd be easy enough xD |
| 07:13.39 | Motive | Note to self: try to make 6-pooling zerg ai |
| 07:13.39 | rrowland | There was "AI" posted on the thread |
| 07:13.43 | rrowland | But is that really AI? |
| 07:13.52 | rrowland | It looks more like a custom map that was made like |
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| 07:13.57 | Sixen | What, rrowland? |
| 07:14.05 | rrowland | At least a couple weeks before the contest was even announced |
| 07:14.11 | Reactorex | Artificial intelligence. |
| 07:14.14 | rrowland | Some guy posted an entry, I downloaded it, it wasn't AI |
| 07:14.17 | rrowland | Melee AI * |
| 07:14.31 | rrowland | It was basically a custom map |
| 07:15.13 | Reactorex | If someone's able to make a melee AI to play like a pro.. |
| 07:15.15 | Reactorex | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.22 | rrowland | Entry by "Vortexx2010" |
| 07:15.27 | rrowland | That's what I'm working on reactor |
| 07:15.34 | heysparky | jcup - under what kind of data object do I find "01behavior on scope unit set tinting"? |
| 07:15.37 | fatal510 | doing this in a bunch of if statements makes it confusing to read |
| 07:15.55 | Reactorex | Down to absolutely no minerals or time wasted. |
| 07:15.59 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 07:16.01 | Reactorex | With proper placing of buildings. |
| 07:16.06 | JCup | lol okay are u in the actor of the unit that is going to get the color change? |
| 07:16.15 | heysparky | no! omw |
| 07:16.20 | Reactorex | Complete individual micromanagement of each unit. |
| 07:16.21 | JCup | haha sorry |
| 07:16.28 | Reactorex | That's.... |
| 07:16.28 | JCup | Okay go to the actor events |
| 07:16.30 | Reactorex | Godlike. |
| 07:16.33 | rrowland | That's what I'm working on lol |
| 07:16.44 | Reactorex | If you manage it, /worship |
| 07:17.01 | rrowland | As far as micro goes, so far I've made it so units pull back at certain HP to drop their acquired attackers, and I've made sentries 10x better |
| 07:17.16 | rrowland | Default AI makes them cast guardian shield no matter what and never casts force field |
| 07:17.21 | heysparky | in events now |
| 07:17.35 | Reactorex | What's the most optimal way to use force field? |
| 07:17.40 | Reactorex | Blocking ramps? |
| 07:17.42 | rrowland | My AI only casts guardian shield when there are a certain amount of ranged units and it casts force fields like a pro |
| 07:17.47 | Motive | Uh |
| 07:17.50 | Motive | you could do something like |
| 07:17.50 | Motive | d |
| 07:17.53 | onetwo | blocking ranged units |
| 07:17.56 | Motive | detect if it's a defensive or offensive wave |
| 07:17.57 | onetwo | like colossi |
| 07:17.58 | onetwo | stalkers |
| 07:18.01 | Motive | defensive wave -> put it on a ramp with other units |
| 07:18.02 | onetwo | from zerglings |
| 07:18.05 | onetwo | or enemy melee units |
| 07:18.06 | Motive | offensive: find a "clump" of units |
| 07:18.06 | onetwo | rrowland |
| 07:18.08 | Motive | or something like that |
| 07:18.17 | rrowland | It has 5 different reasons to use force field |
| 07:18.20 | rrowland | And I'll list em for you |
| 07:18.22 | onetwo | if you want to make it easy |
| 07:18.24 | onetwo | rrowland |
| 07:18.27 | onetwo | splitting |
| 07:18.28 | Motive | I don't play melee, I just guessed. Haha |
| 07:18.30 | onetwo | enemy army |
| 07:18.31 | onetwo | is the easiest |
| 07:18.38 | onetwo | i used to play melee quite a bit |
| 07:18.42 | onetwo | before the editor |
| 07:18.44 | onetwo | came out |
| 07:18.45 | onetwo | hahaah |
| 07:19.12 | rrowland | 1) Friendly unit close to death and melee enemy around, cast force field between them |
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| 07:19.34 | rrowland | 2) Enemy unit is close to death with a melee friendly close to it, cast force field behind it to push it in |
| 07:19.36 | onetwo | sounds good, althoug hcould be a waste |
| 07:19.41 | onetwo | youd have to prioritize them |
| 07:19.59 | rrowland | 3) A friendly ranged unit has a melee enemy close by, cast between them |
| 07:20.02 | onetwo | cause energy is limited |
| 07:20.12 | rrowland | 4) A melee enemy is near the caster, cast between them |
| 07:20.25 | rrowland | 5) An enemy is about to die and is running away, cast behind it |
| 07:20.31 | rrowland | And that's the priority order |
| 07:21.06 | rrowland | I want to implement a method to build a wall of them |
| 07:21.18 | rrowland | To find the points of a choke and build a wall between those points |
| 07:21.32 | onetwo | hmm rrowland those conditions are good |
| 07:21.33 | rrowland | So I'll be working on that |
| 07:21.36 | onetwo | but a common and very good use |
| 07:21.42 | onetwo | is simply to split the enemy army in half |
| 07:21.45 | onetwo | at the start of a battle |
| 07:21.48 | onetwo | depending on your army sizes |
| 07:21.50 | onetwo | its worth it |
| 07:21.53 | rrowland | Yeah, I want to implement that |
| 07:21.56 | onetwo | cool |
| 07:22.01 | rrowland | It's just a matter of making the functions to do it |
| 07:22.09 | onetwo | and which priority it should get.. |
| 07:22.23 | rrowland | And how to distribute the force fields among a group |
| 07:22.37 | Reactorex | You'd want to scale the parts of the enemy army and then choose where an equal balance is between the two units on the edge of the group. |
| 07:22.47 | rrowland | Well that part's easy |
| 07:23.11 | rrowland | I can just get the center of the unit group, or average all the unit positions of the units in a certain radius |
| 07:23.28 | rrowland | The hard part is ordering 5 different sentries to each build 1 segment of the wall |
| 07:23.28 | Reactorex | But then certain units would "weigh" more than others. |
| 07:23.42 | rrowland | And not cast them in the same spot |
| 07:23.52 | picklefish | so I finally beat Mass Effect 2 tonight and got to check out all of the top SC2 UMS games |
| 07:23.55 | Reactorex | If you knock five thors and half-5 off to one side and the other side is very weak... |
| 07:24.01 | picklefish | yall have been hard at work and everything is really impressive |
| 07:24.07 | Reactorex | For the wall, can you use a loop? |
| 07:24.16 | Reactorex | The loop to reference the individual sentries. |
| 07:24.23 | rrowland | This is all being done in the AI files |
| 07:24.27 | rrowland | Not triggers |
| 07:24.35 | Reactorex | So loops aren't possible. |
| 07:24.42 | rrowland | They are but not for this application |
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| 07:24.47 | Reactorex | Hrm. |
| 07:24.58 | rrowland | My general thinking is |
| 07:25.10 | rrowland | Have the 5 points |
| 07:25.13 | Reactorex | I was thinking a traceline and then calculated positions along the line. |
| 07:25.19 | rrowland | Every time the ability is called, check as priority 1 |
| 07:25.30 | rrowland | If there is a forcefield at point 1, check point 2 |
| 07:25.32 | rrowland | etc until point 5 |
| 07:25.35 | rrowland | If there isn't cast one |
| 07:25.45 | rrowland | If they're all cast already, go on to other priorities |
| 07:25.57 | rrowland | Basically a traceline yeah |
| 07:26.05 | ekcolnovkol | i'm SO GLAD i save my map every time i make a change |
| 07:26.13 | Reactorex | :P |
| 07:26.15 | ekcolnovkol | revels in his gladness |
| 07:26.16 | Reactorex | Crashed? |
| 07:26.18 | ekcolnovkol | oh yes |
| 07:26.25 | Reactorex | Ohshit, I'm going to miss breakfast again. |
| 07:26.26 | Reactorex | 2:30 AM. |
| 07:26.30 | ekcolnovkol | it will never harm me again |
| 07:26.43 | rrowland | Now all I need to fathom is a way to detect a choke |
| 07:26.49 | rrowland | And how big it is |
| 07:26.50 | ekcolnovkol | ? |
| 07:27.01 | rrowland | So that I can fill it with force fields |
| 07:28.51 | rrowland | Anybody know what AIEnableStockOpen is? |
| 07:28.53 | Motive | I Hm |
| 07:28.59 | rrowland | I can't find it in any of the files |
| 07:29.04 | rrowland | The definition |
| 07:29.10 | Motive | I've got an idea for detecting ramps. |
| 07:29.29 | Motive | You could use something similar for chokes. |
| 07:29.40 | Motive | Ramps will always have a decimal cliff level |
| 07:29.48 | Motive | ex: 2.5 is right between 2 and 3 |
| 07:29.50 | rrowland | True |
| 07:29.52 | Motive | in the middle of a ramp |
| 07:29.57 | rrowland | But how do I know if it's a wide ramp or not |
| 07:30.00 | Motive | so you could use that to build a rough "map" of an area. |
| 07:30.08 | Motive | well you can use some circle rects |
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| 07:30.18 | rrowland | circle rectangles? |
| 07:30.19 | Motive | sample points in them, use varying radii |
| 07:30.24 | probalon | reactorex, doesn't work :\ |
| 07:30.25 | Motive | err locations |
| 07:30.29 | Motive | whatever they're called |
| 07:30.43 | Reactorex | Does it create the actor? |
| 07:30.48 | probalon | the furthest I've gotten is create model places a zealot there. send actor message |
| 07:30.50 | rrowland | Keep in mind this is going to be running the entire time the unit is combat |
| 07:30.55 | rrowland | So if it's too complex it will lag |
| 07:31.04 | probalon | only allows for "deathcustomize" which doesn't do anythign |
| 07:31.47 | rrowland | AIEnableStockOpen(player, c_PU_Probe, 480, true, e_mainState_Mid0, e_mainSubState_GndA) |
| 07:31.52 | rrowland | That's an example of the function |
| 07:32.25 | rrowland | It looks like it's setting the transition to mainstate_mid level 0 (very easy) at 480 seconds |
| 07:32.32 | rrowland | But I don't know what the c_PU_Probe means |
| 07:32.47 | rrowland | What does a probe have to do with anything |
| 07:34.08 | Motive | make probes? o_O |
| 07:34.20 | rrowland | No that's set by |
| 07:34.27 | rrowland | AISetStock( player, 8, c_PU_Probe ); |
| 07:34.42 | rrowland | I think it might mean "When the probe requirement is met" |
| 07:34.45 | rrowland | But I'm not sure |
| 07:35.48 | Reactorex | Here we go, probalon. |
| 07:35.55 | Reactorex | Animation - Play Animation |
| 07:35.59 | Reactorex | Target: Last Created Actor |
| 07:36.08 | Reactorex | Animation: Deatgh |
| 07:36.11 | Reactorex | Death* |
| 07:36.22 | Reactorex | Flags: Up to you. |
| 07:36.39 | rrowland | Found it |
| 07:37.01 | rrowland | It's actually a function custom to the AI |
| 07:37.05 | rrowland | So I can rewrite it |
| 07:37.42 | heysparky | oooh... |
| 07:37.55 | heysparky | I just came up with something cool.... but I don't know how to do it |
| 07:38.05 | ekcolnovkol | that is usually the case |
| 07:38.07 | probalon | it didn't work :\ |
| 07:38.07 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:38.16 | heysparky | true enough, ekc |
| 07:38.22 | Reactorex | What is it, Sparky? |
| 07:38.22 | `3ICE | AISetStock( player, 8, c_PU_Probe ); means the AI has to have 8 probes trained. |
| 07:38.31 | rrowland | Yeah I know |
| 07:38.35 | `3ICE | c_PU_Probe is defined as "Probe" |
| 07:38.36 | heysparky | but I don't even really know where to start tugging... well, it's probably not something I should really be thinking of doing |
| 07:38.40 | rrowland | I know all of this |
| 07:38.53 | heysparky | since I want to actually get this daggum scenario playable sooner rather than later |
| 07:39.03 | heysparky | but the action of my scenario is a 'brood war' of sorts |
| 07:39.15 | heysparky | it's canon-lite |
| 07:39.17 | ekcolnovkol | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/ so useful omg |
| 07:39.20 | ekcolnovkol | i never knew |
| 07:39.20 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 07:39.32 | DaveKap_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.34 | heysparky | rival queens stomp the map, duking it out in packs |
| 07:39.38 | DaveKap_ | i'm sick of these custom games not having proper win conditions :( |
| 07:39.48 | DaveKap_ | I've won like... everything in the top 10 and maybe 1 had a proper win condition |
| 07:39.50 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:40.11 | heysparky | the player controls a queen that acts like a Hive, cliff jumps, and can transport units |
| 07:40.15 | Reactorex | The most popular games aren't amazing. |
| 07:40.27 | Reactorex | The ones lower in popularity have better triggers and map makers. :) |
| 07:40.33 | Reactorex | At least some of them do. |
| 07:40.42 | ekcolnovkol | what's considered popular right now? |
| 07:40.44 | heysparky | so I've been brainstorming what the other queens do |
| 07:40.57 | heysparky | 1 is Berserker... big melee and buffs her nearby minions |
| 07:41.52 | Reactorex | ekc: |
| 07:41.52 | heysparky | 1 is 'artillery' with good ranged attacks and a aura that damages nearby enemies |
| 07:42.14 | heysparky | and the last is a trio of fast cliff-jumping 'sisters' who can burrow |
| 07:42.41 | Reactorex | BattleCraft Amageddon, Marine Arena, SpineCrawler D, Standard Tower D, Evolves Redux, Nexus Wars, Cat 'N' Mouse Jungle, Red Circle Tower Defense, Zone Control Advanced, DNA Wars Beta, Art of Defense, Starshop Troopers Outpost |
| 07:42.46 | Reactorex | Starship* |
| 07:43.02 | Reactorex | Overrun following directly afterward in 13th |
| 07:43.06 | heysparky | I was contemplating the base for the sisters and wanted it (natch) on a cliff, but that desn't give them access to resources, so I wondered if I could make them steal resources from units with a vampire like attack |
| 07:43.07 | ekcolnovkol | there is a lack of dota in that list :U |
| 07:43.18 | heysparky | and that's the idea I don't know how to do |
| 07:43.22 | ekcolnovkol | this must be remedied |
| 07:43.30 | Reactorex | No thanks |
| 07:43.32 | Reactorex | Don't do it. |
| 07:43.46 | ekcolnovkol | i already did :< |
| 07:43.55 | Reactorex | Specific map name? |
| 07:44.01 | ekcolnovkol | not published yet ;) |
| 07:44.11 | Reactorex | Don't publish. >_> |
| 07:44.11 | ekcolnovkol | didn't i show you a picture before? |
| 07:44.15 | probalon | I found it reactorex |
| 07:44.17 | Reactorex | No. :O |
| 07:44.27 | Reactorex | Probalon, I also stated what it was. xD |
| 07:44.30 | probalon | create actor model zealot death |
| 07:44.33 | Reactorex | Properly after the problem. |
| 07:44.52 | probalon | and then your animation thing |
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| 07:45.13 | Reactorex | You can't do it without the animation? |
| 07:45.25 | probalon | nope :\ |
| 07:45.34 | Reactorex | And if you change it to Zealot instead of ZealotDEath |
| 07:45.35 | Reactorex | ? |
| 07:45.43 | probalon | it doesn't work. |
| 07:45.57 | probalon | it freezes the stand anim when the death anim is supposed to play |
| 07:45.58 | Reactorex | Harrumph. |
| 07:46.22 | Reactorex | Well, it works one way. |
| 07:47.51 | probalon | yep yep |
| 07:47.53 | probalon | ty |
| 07:48.31 | Reactorex`Asleep | 'morning. I'm tired. |
| 07:48.53 | probalon | goodnight |
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| 08:15.17 | Sixen | What's YABOT? |
| 08:15.37 | Sixen | Oh clever. |
| 08:16.56 | onetwo | ? |
| 08:18.07 | ekcolnovkol | holy wow |
| 08:18.18 | ekcolnovkol | i just realized they changed infestor's signature infested marine ability |
| 08:18.27 | ekcolnovkol | how can they still call it the infestor |
| 08:18.33 | ekcolnovkol | it doesn't infest anything |
| 08:18.35 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 08:19.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:21.18 | Sixen | =/ |
| 08:29.11 | ekcolnovkol | ooo |
| 08:29.19 | ekcolnovkol | by jimmny i've got it |
| 08:29.30 | ekcolnovkol | i am a GODffffffffff |
| 08:34.38 | MavercK | wtf, max hp is capped at 100,000? |
| 08:34.56 | ekcolnovkol | learn to work with smaller numbers? |
| 08:34.57 | ekcolnovkol | :x |
| 08:35.10 | MavercK | nevar |
| 08:35.14 | `3ICE | Sixen some of our posts were deleted from the Warcraft III Map Development forum. |
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| 08:35.37 | `3ICE | All of my posts where i mention sc2mapster and your entire thread. |
| 08:35.44 | `3ICE | poof, all gone :/ |
| 08:37.18 | ekcolnovkol | someone must not appreciate advertising :u |
| 08:37.40 | `3ICE | well they didn't get all of sixen's posts |
| 08:38.05 | WhiskeeGX | hey guys, anyone knows can I use a .tga as description image? |
| 08:38.10 | WhiskeeGX | I can import it, but it's not there in the list to use |
| 08:38.25 | WhiskeeGX | *how |
| 08:38.37 | `3ICE | Just an idea: Converting images to dds takes 3 clicks. |
| 08:39.09 | WhiskeeGX | can't find .dds either after I import them (tga format is supported though) |
| 08:39.16 | `3ICE | also, amke sure you are importing it properly, you have to save your map to finalize the import process |
| 08:39.29 | `3ICE | Also, make sure you are importing it properly, you have to save your map to finalize the import process.* |
| 08:39.42 | WhiskeeGX | oh, I see. |
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| 08:40.13 | WhiskeeGX | ok it's there. Didn't try saving, thanks :) |
| 08:40.20 | `3ICE | np np |
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| 08:41.23 | Liquidor | Sup |
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| 08:45.45 | ekcolnovkol | hi :u |
| 08:53.30 | Sixen | Lol? |
| 08:53.33 | Sixen | Did they, Ice? |
| 08:53.34 | Sixen | Where? |
| 08:53.56 | `3ICE | How do I link to something that doesn't exist anymore? :P |
| 08:54.02 | Sixen | lol, where'd my SC2Mapster psot go? :P |
| 08:54.03 | `3ICE | http://forums.battle.net/board.html?forumId=12013 |
| 08:54.09 | ekcolnovkol | hey ice |
| 08:54.09 | Sixen | Waterknight reported i |
| 08:54.10 | Sixen | t |
| 08:54.27 | vjeux | what are you talking about? |
| 08:54.29 | ekcolnovkol | i thought you were icefrog for a while |
| 08:54.30 | `3ICE | I put so much thought into my posts :6 |
| 08:54.31 | ekcolnovkol | <_< |
| 08:54.58 | Arthas-zzz | ( ekcolnovkol ): it doesn't infest anything - thus I cancelled my pre-order! |
| 08:55.08 | ekcolnovkol | oh yes |
| 08:55.11 | ekcolnovkol | heresey |
| 08:55.17 | Arthas-zzz | Yeah |
| 08:55.28 | Arthas-zzz | *sigh* |
| 08:55.41 | Arthas-zzz | I really wanted to be able to infest buildings, toss, terran everything! |
| 08:55.51 | ekcolnovkol | from what i heard, koreans are doing very well with zerg |
| 08:56.07 | ekcolnovkol | madness i say |
| 08:56.09 | Arthas-zzz | :D |
| 08:56.15 | ekcolnovkol | not sparta, just madness |
| 08:57.12 | Arthas-zzz | so, im still drunk |
| 08:57.14 | Arthas-zzz | friggin shots |
| 08:57.31 | Arthas-zzz | bed \o |
| 08:58.09 | ekcolnovkol | it's ok |
| 08:58.12 | ekcolnovkol | ironman also drinks |
| 08:58.19 | ekcolnovkol | quite heavily, so i've heard |
| 09:00.07 | Arthas-zzz | :p |
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| 09:01.10 | ekcolnovkol | implementing a leveling system is driving me nuts |
| 09:01.11 | ekcolnovkol | :S |
| 09:02.10 | ekcolnovkol | how do i stick a bar into the UI |
| 09:02.20 | Liquidor | How do you setup teams? |
| 09:02.26 | ekcolnovkol | i don't know |
| 09:02.28 | ekcolnovkol | :< |
| 09:03.44 | Sozer | im pretty sure i love sc |
| 09:04.27 | Sozer | are there switches in the sc2 editor like in sc1 |
| 09:04.34 | Liquidor | I'm going nuts |
| 09:04.44 | Liquidor | No matter what I do I end up with teams like this: http://i.imgur.com/vg92r.jpg |
| 09:05.13 | Sozer | change the gametype? |
| 09:05.56 | Liquidor | What? |
| 09:06.00 | Sozer | nv |
| 09:06.01 | Sozer | m |
| 09:06.08 | Sozer | i dont know enough about it srry |
| 09:06.28 | Sozer | do u remember switches in sc1? |
| 09:06.40 | Liquidor | They dont exist in the galaxy editor |
| 09:06.58 | Sozer | is there anything simular? |
| 09:07.06 | Liquidor | Variables, enabling/disabling triggers |
| 09:07.15 | Liquidor | and regular events |
| 09:07.28 | Sozer | i used switches for all my bound maps |
| 09:07.39 | Liquidor | have you even opened the new editor? :S |
| 09:07.46 | Sozer | hell yeah |
| 09:07.56 | Liquidor | And clicked triggers? |
| 09:07.56 | Sozer | been looking |
| 09:08.04 | Lyrrad | The editor does not have everything that will be in the release version |
| 09:08.10 | Sozer | OMG |
| 09:08.12 | Sozer | really?! |
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| 09:08.25 | Sozer | i was pretty good at sc1 editor |
| 09:08.38 | Sozer | did some really good bounding maps and defence maps |
| 09:08.50 | Sozer | but sc2 is a whole new ball game for me |
| 09:09.05 | Sozer | so many new variables |
| 09:09.29 | `3ICE | just stick to the ones you know |
| 09:09.36 | Sozer | lol |
| 09:09.42 | Sozer | thanks for the advice haha |
| 09:09.45 | Liquidor | Ice, you know how to fix my issue ! |
| 09:09.50 | `3ICE | sure thing |
| 09:09.56 | Liquidor | :[ |
| 09:10.01 | `3ICE | what's it about? |
| 09:10.05 | Liquidor | Teams |
| 09:10.08 | `3ICE | nothx |
| 09:10.18 | `3ICE | that confuses me |
| 09:10.20 | Liquidor | Scaaared? |
| 09:10.22 | Liquidor | O'rly |
| 09:10.30 | Liquidor | Doesn't make sense |
| 09:10.32 | Lyrrad | There are issues with teams in the lobby |
| 09:10.32 | Sozer | its not like forces eh? |
| 09:10.34 | `3ICE | two days ago we got tons of reports that teams corrupt map headers |
| 09:10.44 | `3ICE | i'm not touching them until they are confirmed to work |
| 09:10.55 | Liquidor | They dont corrupt anymore, controllers do |
| 09:11.18 | Liquidor | besides you can just undo and it's not corrupt anymore... tada *dum di dum* |
| 09:11.24 | `3ICE | if part of some interface is broken I avoid the whole thing. :) |
| 09:11.38 | Liquidor | Yeah I would as well if I could |
| 09:11.49 | `3ICE | but you can, work on something else :) |
| 09:11.53 | Liquidor | But it's a team based map so kinda need to figure out how the other people got through that borked thing |
| 09:12.04 | `3ICE | i for example have an in-game lobby system |
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| 09:12.36 | largelyrandom | Hey there! |
| 09:12.39 | Sixen | Ice. |
| 09:12.42 | Sixen | They deleted our posts. |
| 09:12.46 | Sixen | :( |
| 09:12.47 | `3ICE | yup |
| 09:12.49 | Sixen | ~seen waterknight |
| 09:12.50 | purl | waterknight <~flo1@p4FF78197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 20h 25m 33s ago, saying: 'maybe they are automatically put together by consecutive numbers in path'. |
| 09:12.52 | Sixen | Waterknight reported it. |
| 09:12.57 | Lyrrad | Who deleted what posts? |
| 09:12.57 | `3ICE | how do you know that |
| 09:13.06 | MavercK | updated my map. published. |
| 09:13.09 | Sixen | He was complaining to me about my advertising in there the other day. |
| 09:13.13 | Sixen | Saying that it'll kill War3. |
| 09:13.17 | heysparky | When you move something instantly, what does 'blend' do? |
| 09:13.26 | `3ICE | Zzz ofc sc2 is gonna kill war3 |
| 09:13.30 | Sixen | Of course: :P |
| 09:13.40 | `3ICE | i dropped all my projects and rushed over to the new cool thing |
| 09:13.47 | `3ICE | i have pages of todo lsit for my war3 maps |
| 09:13.51 | `3ICE | list* |
| 09:13.56 | Liquidor | in your bin |
| 09:13.58 | `3ICE | yup |
| 09:14.17 | Sixen | :) |
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| 09:14.46 | Lyrrad | Sparky - It makes it a bit less jumpy |
| 09:15.02 | largelyrandom | I've been beating my head againt a wall trying to use "Custom Value" to keep track of units, anyone happen to know why I can't call it from where I want to? |
| 09:15.04 | Arthas-zzz | ignore waterknight, report! |
| 09:15.06 | Arthas-zzz | repost* |
| 09:15.14 | `3ICE | I don't have mines saved |
| 09:15.19 | Lyrrad | if you move instantlya short distance it will actually look smooth with blend on |
| 09:17.09 | MavercK | oh hell yes |
| 09:17.16 | MavercK | old version of my map has dropped way down |
| 09:17.18 | MavercK | victory atlast ! |
| 09:17.32 | largelyrandom | Which map might that be? |
| 09:17.40 | MavercK | a standard tower defense. on EU |
| 09:17.45 | largelyrandom | ah |
| 09:17.59 | largelyrandom | I was dismayed by the lack of mazing TD's |
| 09:18.08 | largelyrandom | so I am working on a sort of remake of Cube TD |
| 09:18.14 | MavercK | nice |
| 09:18.22 | `3ICE | w00t, make sure you replicate the balance :) |
| 09:18.26 | largelyrandom | Yeah, it looks pretty good so far |
| 09:18.46 | largelyrandom | Seems units dont start running again after they get blocked and kill a tower, though |
| 09:18.51 | largelyrandom | Thats what I am working on right now |
| 09:19.02 | MavercK | hm |
| 09:19.03 | `3ICE | As a first project, I made a short td with 3 towers 9 waves to get myself some practice. |
| 09:19.06 | MavercK | i made an anti-stuck thing for my map |
| 09:19.11 | largelyrandom | I have a solution, but it is ugly as all hell and involves a 50 step if then else |
| 09:19.20 | MavercK | it triggers when "unit becomes idle" |
| 09:19.33 | `3ICE | lol just remove pathing from them |
| 09:19.39 | `3ICE | the units |
| 09:19.43 | largelyrandom | Naw, blocking is a valid strategy |
| 09:19.47 | `3ICE | oh |
| 09:20.25 | largelyrandom | I am currently using "Custom Value" to keep track of how far the unit is |
| 09:20.36 | MavercK | http://pastebin.com/ABrUYJh9 |
| 09:20.48 | MavercK | just replace move unit to re-apply it's move order |
| 09:20.50 | largelyrandom | But since I can only call it as a condition, I can't get a proper loop going |
| 09:20.54 | `3ICE | Unstuck |
| 09:20.54 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.54 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.54 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.54 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.55 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.55 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.20 | MavercK | pastebin :P |
| 09:21.22 | largelyrandom | Idle is after all your towers are dead, thats not optimal :P |
| 09:21.37 | MavercK | so you want them to be able to attack your towers? |
| 09:21.39 | largelyrandom | Right now they try to move every time a tower dies |
| 09:22.12 | MavercK | if they arn't supposed to kill your stuff, remove their weapon |
| 09:22.16 | `3ICE | largelyrandom I have not seen any TD where we were allowed to block. That is proof enough that the idea is bad. |
| 09:22.25 | largelyrandom | hehe |
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| 09:22.33 | largelyrandom | I didnt say it was a good idea to block |
| 09:22.41 | largelyrandom | They kill your towers until the way is clear again :) |
| 09:22.58 | `3ICE | try every 1 sec reissue move order to all attacking units |
| 09:23.12 | `3ICE | then they give up again, attack again, and once the 1sec is up they try moving again |
| 09:23.19 | `3ICE | i used that for a war3 td of a friend |
| 09:23.20 | largelyrandom | Yeah, not a bad idea |
| 09:23.26 | `3ICE | works exceptionally wel |
| 09:23.34 | `3ICE | creeps kill exactly 1 tower/second |
| 09:24.06 | largelyrandom | ah wait |
| 09:24.14 | largelyrandom | The problem is I dont know where the creeps are going |
| 09:24.29 | `3ICE | towards the end? |
| 09:24.30 | largelyrandom | There are 8 different routes, and 5 points along each route |
| 09:24.49 | `3ICE | just ignore the points |
| 09:24.56 | largelyrandom | hehe, doesnt work I am afraid |
| 09:24.58 | `3ICE | if the player blocks, he deserves to get those skipped |
| 09:25.09 | `3ICE | and have creeps walk directly towards the end |
| 09:25.13 | largelyrandom | ^^ |
| 09:25.20 | `3ICE | show screenshot of map from above? |
| 09:25.48 | largelyrandom | just google Cube TD |
| 09:25.53 | largelyrandom | The layout is the same |
| 09:26.01 | `3ICE | oh goodie |
| 09:26.32 | `3ICE | i dont actually know how CordialSpam solved that |
| 09:26.39 | largelyrandom | I dont think he did |
| 09:27.16 | largelyrandom | I was looking at the Triggers in the old map, couldnt find anything that even resembles an attempt at a solution |
| 09:27.29 | largelyrandom | Makes me think the unit AI is different in the games |
| 09:27.50 | largelyrandom | Thoughts welcome, though |
| 09:28.11 | `3ICE | I'm on it |
| 09:28.35 | largelyrandom | Right now I am keeping track of how far the units are along the path with "Custom Value" |
| 09:28.45 | Sozer | so "variables" replace "switches from sc1? |
| 09:28.48 | largelyrandom | each time they reach a region, they get a new value |
| 09:29.13 | largelyrandom | 10-15 is first track, 20-25 is second and so on |
| 09:29.23 | `3ICE | What the <beep> is this? |
| 09:29.24 | `3ICE | If ((Random integer number between 1 and 100) Less than or equal to 2) then do (Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to Move To (Center of Region 002 <gen>)) else do (Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to Move To (Center of Region 002 <gen>)) |
| 09:29.31 | largelyrandom | yeah, I havent a clue :D |
| 09:29.46 | `3ICE | that screams "terribly made map" from all directions. |
| 09:30.11 | Twiner | why? |
| 09:30.24 | Twiner | it looks like a highley unlikely random chance |
| 09:30.25 | largelyrandom | So my current solution is to run through an extended list of if then else, saying for all units, if value = 10, go to 10, if value = 11, go to 11 |
| 09:30.28 | largelyrandom | and so on |
| 09:30.50 | largelyrandom | when a tower dies |
| 09:30.57 | `3ICE | largelyrandom you can use an array to make that look nice |
| 09:31.01 | largelyrandom | Yeah |
| 09:31.06 | `3ICE | no more ifs |
| 09:31.07 | largelyrandom | But I cant call the stupid number! |
| 09:31.13 | Twiner | tries something silly |
| 09:31.20 | Twiner | I'm going to turn an ultra lisk into a walking bunker |
| 09:31.21 | largelyrandom | The number is Custom Value, a builtin thing |
| 09:31.30 | largelyrandom | and I can only seem to access it as a condition |
| 09:31.35 | `3ICE | use the unit's energy |
| 09:31.38 | Sozer | i learned in programming 1 in high school that IF THEN statements were the least efficient form of programming |
| 09:31.55 | largelyrandom | I know Sozer, thats why I am looking for a better solution |
| 09:32.06 | largelyrandom | Energy is visible, innit ? |
| 09:32.13 | `3ICE | largelyrandom use the unit's energy to store it's next waypoint |
| 09:32.38 | `3ICE | you can turn off the energy bar, but yeah the number stays visible |
| 09:32.58 | `3ICE | you could could use an attach system |
| 09:33.05 | `3ICE | i know nothing about those, never needed them myself |
| 09:33.11 | largelyrandom | I've been looking for something like that |
| 09:33.32 | Sozer | im just gonna sit here |
| 09:34.01 | Sozer | i wanna learn wat ur talkin about lol |
| 09:34.18 | largelyrandom | hehe |
| 09:34.35 | largelyrandom | Well, I dont quite fancy the energy solution |
| 09:34.53 | `3ICE | largelyrandom is going to learn attachment systems! W00t! |
| 09:35.09 | Sozer | ice whats ur expirence with sc |
| 09:35.09 | Twiner | Sozer: least efficient in terms of what |
| 09:35.13 | Twiner | thats a very broad statement |
| 09:35.16 | `3ICE | 110% |
| 09:35.40 | `3ICE | I started mapping last week and I already know everything. |
| 09:35.44 | largelyrandom | :D |
| 09:35.47 | Sozer | lol |
| 09:35.54 | Sozer | dont we all wish |
| 09:37.56 | Coolflip | does anyone know what the hero learn icon was named in wc3? |
| 09:38.04 | Coolflip | like where you added a point to the skill? |
| 09:39.39 | `3ICE | Her(O) Abilities: Opens the abilities menu and allows you to assign unused points to the Heroes' abilities. |
| 09:39.42 | `3ICE | i am awesome. |
| 09:40.19 | `3ICE | i fired up war3, started an 1v1 match, used warpten, trained a hero, typed it's button tooltip and it took me less than a minute. |
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| 09:41.53 | `3ICE | oh and: http://3ice.hu/img/HeroAbilities.png |
| 09:41.58 | `3ICE | I took that screenshot |
| 09:42.02 | `3ICE | jsut for you <3 |
| 09:42.20 | `3ICE | Coolflip |
| 09:42.47 | Coolflip | to bad thats not the .dds name |
| 09:42.47 | Coolflip | :( |
| 09:43.04 | Twiner | it would be really nice to be able to create UI hotkeys that don't use the Key Pressed event |
| 09:43.07 | `3ICE | Zzz ask your questions properly... |
| 09:43.11 | Pandepic | does anyone know why morphing my building doesn't change it to the scale of the new building's model? |
| 09:43.44 | `3ICE | by the way war3 uses blp |
| 09:44.38 | Coolflip | someone converted every blp into dds |
| 09:44.50 | Coolflip | and i wawnt teh red + |
| 09:45.02 | Twiner | `3ICE: was that directed at me? |
| 09:45.06 | `3ICE | no |
| 09:45.09 | Coolflip | @ me |
| 09:45.09 | `3ICE | i dont think |
| 09:45.39 | Twiner | I wonder if blizz will optimize the key pressed event so its less damaging to network play |
| 09:45.43 | Twiner | it erally limits your options |
| 09:46.16 | `3ICE | rofl |
| 09:46.18 | Pandepic | gah, why would it keep the old building's scale |
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| 09:46.25 | `3ICE | i typed 3ice haz 1337 skillz into search and got it |
| 09:46.26 | `3ICE | BTNSkillz.blp |
| 09:46.34 | `3ICE | Coolflip you are welcome |
| 09:47.06 | Coolflip | ty xD |
| 09:47.08 | `3ICE | ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNSkillz.blp |
| 09:47.16 | WhiskeeGX | what are you using to convert to .dds? |
| 09:47.25 | `3ICE | nothing, some1 else did it for him |
| 09:47.28 | `3ICE | us all* |
| 09:47.47 | Pandepic | nobody knows how to make morph notice the scale change? |
| 09:47.47 | `3ICE | but you can jsut use a simple two step process |
| 09:48.06 | `3ICE | convert blp to something irfan view understands then use irfan view to save it as dds |
| 09:48.16 | WhiskeeGX | hm |
| 09:48.20 | Twiner | Pandepic: what morph? |
| 09:48.30 | `3ICE | i have seen multiple batch blp to x converters |
| 09:48.33 | Pandepic | a unit morph ability |
| 09:48.34 | Twiner | I know there are some settings on the actors that affect scale |
| 09:48.50 | Twiner | though, I donno about that |
| 09:48.54 | Pandepic | my actors are all the right scale |
| 09:49.00 | Pandepic | but it doesn't change the scale when morphing |
| 09:49.08 | Pandepic | it changes the unit and for some reason keeps the old scale |
| 09:49.10 | Twiner | you might have to store properties outside of the actor, and then drop them back in when you finish morphing |
| 09:49.19 | Twiner | oh you don't want it to keep the old scale |
| 09:49.30 | Pandepic | yeah lol, it makes no sense to keep the old scale |
| 09:49.35 | Pandepic | it should be becoming a different unit |
| 09:49.52 | Twiner | my bunker lisk doesn't work :( |
| 09:49.56 | Pandepic | for some reason everything but the scale changes |
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| 09:51.47 | Twiner | awww |
| 09:52.23 | Twiner | so, it seems, that the attack redirect ability, is waht allowed stored units to attack from within a unit, but they can't atack while the containing unit is in motiong :( |
| 09:52.44 | `3ICE | do it with triggers |
| 09:53.02 | Twiner | what exactly, have them attack while inside the unit? |
| 09:53.08 | `3ICE | set attached unit's potion to position of host unit |
| 09:53.19 | `3ICE | every 0.03 or whatever you like sec |
| 09:53.28 | heysparky | Quick |
| 09:53.30 | Twiner | bleh, thats dirty |
| 09:53.30 | heysparky | er... |
| 09:53.35 | `3ICE | yeah dirty but works |
| 09:53.48 | Twiner | I'd rather figure out a way to make it work |
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| 09:53.54 | Twiner | I bet its doable |
| 09:53.58 | `3ICE | i agree |
| 09:54.05 | Twiner | there are turret weapons |
| 09:54.11 | Twiner | so maybe if I do sometihng with that... |
| 09:54.12 | heysparky | Quick Survey: Cooler to have 1 Hive that's mobile (and cliff jumping) or have that and build conventional Hives as well? |
| 09:54.37 | heysparky | (in the first option, that's the only one you get, losing it is a Loss condition) |
| 09:54.44 | rrowland | How does a hive jump a cliff? |
| 09:54.48 | WhiskeeGX | a cliff-jumping hive? oh god :P |
| 09:54.49 | Pandepic | ok lol this is messed up |
| 09:55.02 | Pandepic | the morph doesn't change the model at all apparently |
| 09:55.37 | heysparky | it's a queen, which I'm calling the Hive Mother |
| 09:56.00 | heysparky | just for singleplayer scenario |
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| 09:57.51 | heysparky | so that's one 'how does a hive cliff jump' and one 'oh god' |
| 09:58.35 | `3ICE | not so helpful, are they? :) |
| 09:58.39 | WhiskeeGX | I'd go for the weird route |
| 09:58.43 | WhiskeeGX | and make stuff jump |
| 09:58.45 | WhiskeeGX | but hey that's me :P |
| 09:58.57 | heysparky | well, SHE'S gonna be in there regardless |
| 09:59.10 | heysparky | it's more should the player also have conventional options |
| 09:59.27 | largelyrandom | Seems I can use Experience and Ammo to store the two digits I need for my array |
| 09:59.29 | largelyrandom | Thats bloody dirty |
| 09:59.38 | WhiskeeGX | okay now -- error while uploading if I use a .dds as map image (both in small and large) |
| 09:59.43 | WhiskeeGX | any specific default size to use? |
| 09:59.55 | WhiskeeGX | this seriously lacks documentation :/ |
| 10:00.30 | WhiskeeGX | and .tga images don't even show |
| 10:00.51 | heysparky | rrowland, Hive Unit meets Queen actor with cliff-jumping Mover |
| 10:01.02 | heysparky | I think maybe you're who told me how to do it |
| 10:01.14 | heysparky | or maybe it was Skizot |
| 10:05.30 | Twiner | HAHAHAHA |
| 10:06.19 | Twiner | so, you can set up bunker to take any type of unit, put this ability on any unit, + give the container unit the attack redirect ability, and you can make it effectly work as a multi weapon simultaneous fire stationary battle weapon! |
| 10:06.35 | Twiner | I have 2 Collosus and a Siege tank loaded into my Bunkerlisk |
| 10:06.51 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/ai-contest-extended-fps-dota/ |
| 10:06.52 | vjeux | omg uber news ! |
| 10:06.57 | MavercK | lolz |
| 10:07.38 | Twiner | oh but apparently, bunker doesn't like archons |
| 10:07.55 | MavercK | i weap for FPS/TPS maps =\ |
| 10:07.57 | Azu | dota? :O |
| 10:08.01 | Twiner | the unit stops being able to move if you put an archon in it |
| 10:08.03 | Azu | ah |
| 10:08.05 | Azu | that map |
| 10:08.08 | MavercK | simply because bnet makes them hard to play |
| 10:08.11 | WhiskeeGX | can't understand why people are so excited about DotA, actually |
| 10:08.18 | WhiskeeGX | editor allows for wonderful map projects |
| 10:08.22 | WhiskeeGX | they have Hon if they want dota :| |
| 10:08.22 | Azu | where are my custom maps? :< |
| 10:08.23 | Twiner | I enver understaood why people were excited abotu dota |
| 10:08.26 | Twiner | its a dumbass map |
| 10:08.32 | Azu | :p |
| 10:08.36 | MavercK | dota is fine on wc3. it's not really gonna be any better/different on sc2 |
| 10:08.42 | Twiner | no, dota is stupid |
| 10:08.54 | MavercK | i wouldn't say stupid |
| 10:08.54 | Azu | nah |
| 10:09.02 | Twiner | The grand bunkerlist is awesome on the otherhand |
| 10:09.10 | WhiskeeGX | well no it's a good map, but we're going to see way better ones here |
| 10:09.23 | Twiner | what makes it a good map? |
| 10:09.40 | WhiskeeGX | it's a good map when it's fun, no matter its innovation or complexity |
| 10:09.43 | Azu | competitive? :P |
| 10:09.45 | WhiskeeGX | people find it fun |
| 10:09.45 | heysparky | replayability, teamwork, tactics, micro |
| 10:09.51 | heysparky | yeah |
| 10:09.56 | heysparky | customization |
| 10:09.56 | Twiner | when its fun? |
| 10:10.02 | WhiskeeGX | I personally don't like it but hey |
| 10:10.04 | heysparky | I don't play it because I'm terrible |
| 10:10.05 | Azu | when playing with your friend |
| 10:10.05 | Twiner | so its not always fun |
| 10:10.06 | Azu | s |
| 10:10.13 | heysparky | it's terribly hardcore |
| 10:10.16 | Twiner | its also unimaginative |
| 10:10.20 | MavercK | i played dota alot and also play hon still... alot |
| 10:10.28 | Azu | same |
| 10:10.30 | heysparky | hmmm... I |
| 10:10.32 | MavercK | it's a good map it just doesn't need to be ported |
| 10:10.40 | heysparky | I'm not srue what you're basing that on, Twinr |
| 10:10.43 | MavercK | it works great on warcraft 3 for the fantasy setting |
| 10:10.54 | MavercK | unless they are going to port every model and everything over i see it being pretty fail |
| 10:10.54 | Twiner | I never enjoyed Dota, and then it just made me angry |
| 10:11.01 | Twiner | because I never could play anything on warcraft 3 |
| 10:11.05 | Twiner | because every game was dota... |
| 10:11.10 | Twiner | except for a few |
| 10:11.17 | Twiner | which were elemental td... |
| 10:11.17 | heysparky | ah, well, hating it for spite is different |
| 10:11.33 | Twiner | nah, I still don't see why anyone thinks it is fun |
| 10:11.56 | MavercK | you dont need to :P just accept that it is ! |
| 10:12.00 | MavercK | people like different things ! |
| 10:12.12 | Twiner | people like crappy games |
| 10:12.16 | WhiskeeGX | I can't even understand how anyone can play the same turret defense for 3 years |
| 10:12.18 | WhiskeeGX | but still. |
| 10:12.22 | MavercK | thats your opinion :P |
| 10:12.30 | heysparky | haha, Twiner, by that logic, anything you don't like isn't fun. That's silly. |
| 10:12.32 | Twiner | I wouldn't call it opinion |
| 10:12.37 | MavercK | i would. |
| 10:12.39 | Twiner | look at farm ville |
| 10:12.45 | Azu | best td for wc3 atm = youtd |
| 10:12.45 | heysparky | tjat's not a game, it's a toy |
| 10:12.55 | MavercK | i think farmville is crap too |
| 10:12.59 | MavercK | thats still my opinion |
| 10:13.31 | Twiner | things are not purely subjective |
| 10:13.49 | Twiner | There are professional food tasters for a reason |
| 10:14.21 | heysparky | ...buh? |
| 10:14.22 | Twiner | let me put it this way |
| 10:14.27 | Twiner | I can enjoy pretty much anythign |
| 10:14.28 | MavercK | ermmm.... |
| 10:14.29 | Twiner | I watch dora |
| 10:14.35 | Twiner | Dora the explorer, and am entertained |
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| 10:14.58 | Twiner | I also play Dwarf fortress, with its stupidly complex interface, no win condition,a nd millions of lose conditions |
| 10:15.01 | Twiner | and I still have fun |
| 10:15.09 | Twiner | Dota... |
| 10:15.11 | heysparky | "Losing is Fun!" |
| 10:15.17 | Twiner | losing is fun |
| 10:16.04 | Twiner | I gots me a thor in my ultra lisk |
| 10:17.15 | heysparky | DF is a terrific game... but I know tons of people who don't think it's fun at all. Because they can't handle the interface. |
| 10:17.33 | heysparky | And they're right - that interface is MIND NUMBING. |
| 10:17.41 | Twiner | yes, it is |
| 10:17.42 | Twiner | well |
| 10:17.45 | Azu | lols |
| 10:17.47 | Twiner | its a bit mind numbing |
| 10:17.51 | Azu | vjeux battlecraft 2.0 :P |
| 10:17.57 | heysparky | it's not got a learning curve, so much as a learning cliff |
| 10:17.59 | Twiner | I might be jaded, because I play a lot of rogue likes |
| 10:18.11 | Twiner | heysparky: I wouldn't say that |
| 10:18.12 | vjeux | Azu: need to work :( |
| 10:18.19 | heysparky | and if you just went into it and tried to learn (didn't read the wiki) you'd be lost as all get out |
| 10:18.19 | Azu | aaaw :< |
| 10:18.20 | Twiner | you just have to be willing to do a little reading on the wiki |
| 10:18.32 | heysparky | MMmmmhmmm |
| 10:18.40 | heysparky | how much fun is STUDYING to play a game? |
| 10:18.46 | Twiner | its not studying |
| 10:18.50 | Twiner | and people use walkthroughs ALL THE TIME |
| 10:18.51 | heysparky | umm... |
| 10:18.51 | heysparky | yeah |
| 10:19.20 | heysparky | Anyway, I'm not saying that DF isn't great, it is... but it doesn't stand alone |
| 10:19.23 | heysparky | neither does DOTA |
| 10:19.33 | heysparky | it's got a learning cliff too |
| 10:19.57 | heysparky | AND you have to have to be a sharp MP player, good with twitch and tactics |
| 10:20.03 | heysparky | AND good teammates |
| 10:20.11 | WhiskeeGX | .tga images won't show, and .dds files generate an error upon uploading |
| 10:20.20 | WhiskeeGX | HOW did you change your map preview image? :| |
| 10:20.22 | Twiner | your statement isn't sensicle... |
| 10:20.23 | heysparky | I love the idea of a game with NPCs that push the line of battle where heroes troubleshoot |
| 10:20.51 | heysparky | and gear to improve your hero and his ever-improving spells |
| 10:21.11 | heysparky | I'm just so terrible at the baseline skills that it's not fun for me |
| 10:21.22 | Pandepic | ahahaha deleted this one actor in my map |
| 10:21.30 | Pandepic | and it crewed up every single unit in the entire editor somehow |
| 10:21.39 | heysparky | doh |
| 10:21.41 | Pandepic | screwed* |
| 10:22.14 | rrowland | Because its actor is still referring to it |
| 10:22.19 | rrowland | And it doesn't exist |
| 10:22.30 | rrowland | So the actor is applied to every unit |
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| 10:22.41 | heysparky | all I'm saying is that the fundaments are plenty strong, there's tons of fun to be mined in DOTA, if you have the requisite skills and the willingness to play with the folks who also do |
| 10:23.00 | heysparky | I don't on both counts :) |
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| 10:23.29 | rrowland | Cause you're a chick |
| 10:23.42 | rrowland | And chicks are rarely as competitive as guys |
| 10:24.09 | heysparky | possibly |
| 10:24.30 | heysparky | I never speak for my gender, being an outlire |
| 10:24.31 | heysparky | lier |
| 10:24.33 | rrowland | Now I need a way to merge 2 unit groups without using libNtve_gf_AddUnitGroupToUnitGroup |
| 10:24.45 | Arthas-zzz | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/audio/nom |
| 10:24.45 | Pandepic | wait |
| 10:24.47 | Twiner | being a chick makes you an outlier? |
| 10:24.48 | rrowland | Because I don't have access to libntve in the AI scripts |
| 10:24.51 | heysparky | though I'm often called to |
| 10:24.52 | Pandepic | why is the actor applied to every unit now? |
| 10:25.00 | Arthas-zzz | apparently my new ringing tone :\ |
| 10:25.11 | rrowland | Because its unit token is null pandemic |
| 10:25.22 | Pandepic | which unit token is null |
| 10:25.32 | rrowland | The actor of the unit you deleted |
| 10:25.37 | Pandepic | I deleted an actor |
| 10:25.39 | Pandepic | not a unit |
| 10:25.51 | heysparky | I'm saying I'm an outlier among chicks, Twiner |
| 10:25.57 | Twiner | ah |
| 10:26.01 | rrowland | (she has a penis) |
| 10:26.13 | heysparky | yes, he's sleeping atm |
| 10:26.21 | Twiner | blinks |
| 10:26.37 | Pandepic | ugh this is quite a mess |
| 10:26.42 | Pandepic | ingame every unit has double hp bars now |
| 10:26.47 | Pandepic | and weird circles around them |
| 10:27.04 | heysparky | that sucks pandepic |
| 10:27.15 | Pandepic | I have no idea how to fix this either |
| 10:27.38 | Pandepic | deleting an actor that nothing was even using shouldn't cause this |
| 10:28.19 | heysparky | you can't ctrl z out of it? |
| 10:28.36 | Pandepic | nope |
| 10:28.42 | rrowland | Load a backup |
| 10:28.43 | Pandepic | for some reason undo skips past it |
| 10:28.45 | heysparky | autoback ups? |
| 10:28.56 | Pandepic | I have a backup, but I did a lot of work since then =( |
| 10:29.03 | rrowland | Turn on auto backups |
| 10:29.14 | rrowland | GE is a piece of shit, if you don't have auto backup enabled you're gonna lose work |
| 10:30.18 | Pandepic | this bug is really quite funny though |
| 10:30.27 | Pandepic | it looks like every unit lives in a bubble |
| 10:30.28 | heysparky | take a screenshot |
| 10:30.38 | Pandepic | I will |
| 10:30.40 | heysparky | oh! I saw that the other day... someone was asking about it in chat |
| 10:31.04 | rrowland | Could be a problem with a model assignment |
| 10:31.08 | rrowland | Or model effects |
| 10:31.23 | heysparky | Tarn Adams is my hero, Twiner. |
| 10:31.38 | Pandepic | but it's affecting everything |
| 10:31.41 | Twiner | who? |
| 10:31.42 | Pandepic | in the entire editor |
| 10:31.51 | heysparky | DF creator |
| 10:32.01 | Twiner | oh I just think of him as toady |
| 10:32.11 | Pandepic | my gnome mountain game is more cute than DF =P |
| 10:32.21 | rrowland | Anybody know how to search through all files in the MPQ at once? |
| 10:32.34 | Pandepic | there you go: http://i45.tinypic.com/k2bbe1.png |
| 10:32.50 | Pandepic | looks like it's somehow gotten 2 actors |
| 10:32.51 | rrowland | `3ICE |
| 10:32.52 | `3ICE | rrowland I extracted all mpq files into a folder, only takes 7gb |
| 10:32.53 | Pandepic | one without a model |
| 10:33.14 | Pandepic | maybe somehow the actor I deleted got attached to every unit in the game |
| 10:33.16 | rrowland | How do you search multiple files though |
| 10:33.17 | Pandepic | but has no model |
| 10:33.31 | largelyrandom | argh! |
| 10:33.32 | `3ICE | Pandepic someone was having the same issue (except with red bubbles instead of tel :P) yesterday |
| 10:33.42 | Pandepic | the bubbles are the colour of the unit |
| 10:33.54 | `3ICE | so the bubble seems to be picking up the palyers' colors |
| 10:33.58 | Pandepic | I think the editor just didn't remove the actor properly |
| 10:34.03 | rrowland | I'm looking for c_buildingType* flags |
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| 10:34.05 | Pandepic | and it got attached to everything |
| 10:34.12 | tuz | ahh |
| 10:34.34 | largelyrandom | I need two unit specific integers I can actually access from within various functions |
| 10:34.55 | largelyrandom | So far I've only found Number of Items Carried and Ammo |
| 10:35.25 | largelyrandom | Giving every unit the ability to carry ammo is more work than I want to do |
| 10:35.36 | tuz | energy and hp? |
| 10:36.31 | largelyrandom | I cant seem to access either from within an array call |
| 10:36.40 | tuz | hm |
| 10:38.02 | ekcolnovkol | if i want to bring a plane closer to the ground... |
| 10:38.15 | ekcolnovkol | is that actor or unit? |
| 10:38.29 | rrowland | SStrap explosives to your chest and sneak onboard |
| 10:38.33 | largelyrandom | Experience Given was one option, but I can't seem to change that on the fly |
| 10:38.34 | ekcolnovkol | that's one way |
| 10:41.42 | WhiskeeGX | is anyone from EU having the gateway_file_append_error? |
| 10:42.32 | WhiskeeGX | if any EU has published something in the last hour, please tell. |
| 10:43.04 | tuz | can i publish to eu if i change the upload server or whatever |
| 10:43.19 | WhiskeeGX | I think you need a different account |
| 10:43.24 | WhiskeeGX | they are realm locked |
| 10:43.39 | rrowland | Ahhhhh tell me where c_buildingType constants are stored ahhhhhh |
| 10:43.41 | WhiskeeGX | (which sucks) |
| 10:45.19 | ekcolnovkol | k i've been browsing through data for a while |
| 10:45.22 | ekcolnovkol | how the hell do i lower this goddamn medivac |
| 10:45.25 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 10:45.34 | tuz | i think u can do it on unit |
| 10:45.56 | tuz | unit ui- height |
| 10:46.27 | ekcolnovkol | thank you |
| 10:46.30 | ekcolnovkol | so much |
| 10:46.34 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 10:47.49 | tuz | trigger editor so confusing |
| 10:52.17 | MavercK | ... |
| 10:52.21 | MavercK | try the actor editor |
| 10:56.16 | tuz | how do u have a unit load into a bunker with a trigger |
| 10:56.20 | rrowland | Try coding your AI as an implementation as a level of difficulty |
| 10:56.33 | rrowland | of* |
| 10:56.34 | MavercK | :P |
| 10:56.54 | MavercK | fine. you win ! |
| 10:57.09 | tuz | does unitloadmodel do that |
| 10:57.17 | MavercK | i have no idea |
| 10:57.21 | MavercK | issue order? |
| 10:57.59 | Azu | http://i50.tinypic.com/2dtubo0.png |
| 10:58.31 | ekcolnovkol | ok time to pro up |
| 10:58.38 | ekcolnovkol | now i make heroes from scratch D: |
| 10:58.51 | `3ICE | rrowland c_buildingType* 0 results |
| 11:00.32 | rrowland | I found it |
| 11:00.54 | rrowland | It's in TriggerLibs/TacticalAI.galaxy |
| 11:01.24 | `3ICE | damn. this is further proof that my extratced game files are outdated/in the wrong order |
| 11:01.49 | casperb | archive browser is broken aswell? |
| 11:01.51 | `3ICE | azu how can you post that!? you are torturing me |
| 11:01.56 | Azu | lool |
| 11:01.57 | `3ICE | i googled http://www.google.com/search?q=%22like+hell+i+will%22+%22it's+taking+you+long+enough%22+%22then+just+at+me+naked+already%22 |
| 11:01.58 | casperb | can't export :( |
| 11:02.02 | `3ICE | just to see her |
| 11:02.08 | `3ICE | but no results |
| 11:02.17 | rrowland | I wish I could rewrite the native AI functions |
| 11:02.20 | Azu | `3ICE i didnt even send the entire pic :P |
| 11:02.23 | `3ICE | i know |
| 11:02.26 | Azu | cause then it would have been nsfw |
| 11:02.26 | `3ICE | you torture me |
| 11:02.33 | `3ICE | send me in private then |
| 11:02.36 | Azu | haha |
| 11:03.03 | rrowland | The computer's probes don't start moving to build until they have enough minerals |
| 11:03.09 | rrowland | And that's pretty bad |
| 11:03.13 | tuz | heh |
| 11:03.26 | `3ICE | palce every building in the mineral line! |
| 11:03.28 | `3ICE | ty Azu |
| 11:03.31 | `3ICE | i o u 1 |
| 11:03.32 | Azu | haha |
| 11:03.32 | Azu | np |
| 11:03.41 | rrowland | My AI is ZvP, comp being the P |
| 11:03.46 | rrowland | So I need to build at choke |
| 11:03.53 | Azu | food time |
| 11:04.00 | rrowland | I wish I could just rewrite the native |
| 11:04.17 | tuz | u could build next to nexus too |
| 11:04.29 | tuz | trap in like cannons between buildings |
| 11:04.30 | MavercK | couldn't you for instance. grab those custom ai's people make |
| 11:04.33 | MavercK | and import them as a mod |
| 11:04.35 | `3ICE-fooooodz | <`3ICE> palce every building in the mineral line! |
| 11:04.43 | MavercK | wouldn't that let you re-write the ai completly however you like? |
| 11:04.59 | rrowland | Nope |
| 11:05.03 | `3ICE-fooooodz | MavercK it is pretty tough |
| 11:05.08 | rrowland | It's a native function |
| 11:05.12 | MavercK | yea i figured it is |
| 11:05.12 | rrowland | Can't rewrite natives |
| 11:05.17 | MavercK | fair enough then |
| 11:05.26 | rrowland | All we have access to is the prototype |
| 11:05.36 | rrowland | Which tells us the name and which parameters it takes |
| 11:06.29 | Sixen | ~seen onetwo |
| 11:06.31 | purl | onetwo <~ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/x-robtfxbtlvgfwvjj> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2h 47m 29s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 11:09.55 | vjeux | ~seen onetwothree |
| 11:09.56 | purl | vjeux: i haven't seen 'onetwothree' |
| 11:12.04 | Sixen | lol |
| 11:12.08 | Sixen | Alright, I need to sleep. 4am. |
| 11:12.51 | MavercK | nite |
| 11:13.17 | rrowland | Can't seem to get the right build flags to build my stuff into a wall |
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| 11:14.16 | Kaseano | hi :) anyone know how to change a unit's acquistion range |
| 11:16.51 | vjeux | night |
| 11:24.28 | `3ICE-fooooodz | Kaseano change it on the unit's weapon's effect it should be something like search - area+ and you need to change range or radius |
| 11:24.37 | `3ICE-fooooodz | (i am still afk) |
| 11:25.11 | Kaseano | oh ok thx 3ICE |
| 11:25.29 | Kaseano | yeah just found it under Stats- Minimum Scan Range |
| 11:25.30 | Kaseano | thx |
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| 11:43.25 | Pandepic | lol I like how the editor opens random folders in the data editor tree view |
| 11:43.27 | Pandepic | when you change something |
| 11:44.07 | tuz | how do u have a unit load into a bunker? cant figure out the right command |
| 11:44.14 | tuz | on the trigger |
| 11:45.29 | `3ICE-fooooodz | issue order targeting unit |
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| 11:51.57 | tuz | ok. |
| 11:52.13 | tuz | i dont know what im doing |
| 11:52.43 | tuz | im trying to have it select the bunker closest to a point |
| 11:53.08 | tuz | and have it use abilcommand bunker transport |
| 11:53.20 | tuz | on a marine |
| 11:53.23 | tuz | but nothing happens |
| 11:54.20 | tuz | im not sure if it is selecting the bunker or if im using ther right command |
| 11:54.38 | `3ICE | paste what you have here or pastebin if it is too long and I will point out the errors. |
| 11:55.16 | tuz | omg |
| 11:55.19 | tuz | i made it load 1 |
| 11:55.40 | tuz | but the way im doing it is probably terrible so ill paste it anyways |
| 11:55.56 | tuz | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.48 | tuz | is there a way to add more targets to this 1 action |
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| 11:57.00 | `3ICE | unit group issue order :) |
| 11:57.12 | tuz | just copy and paste it and change the unit? |
| 11:57.17 | `3ICE | unit group issue order :) |
| 11:57.25 | `3ICE | issue order to unit group* |
| 11:57.42 | tuz | i was trying to make a group before |
| 11:57.46 | `3ICE | then you can get all 4 marines in one go |
| 11:58.03 | tuz | how do i put the marines in a group? |
| 11:58.33 | `3ICE | units of type: marine if you only have those 4 |
| 11:58.49 | `3ICE | it'd help if i knew what you were doing :) |
| 11:58.49 | tuz | do i do it with a trigger? |
| 11:59.00 | tuz | i have 4 marines and a bunker |
| 11:59.06 | `3ICE | nothing else on the map? |
| 11:59.12 | tuz | not yet really |
| 11:59.17 | `3ICE | cool then its easy |
| 11:59.27 | tuz | theres a cc and scv |
| 12:00.31 | `3ICE | 1 question... shouldnt the bunker be using the BunkerTransport on the marines? |
| 12:00.38 | tuz | i have no idea |
| 12:00.43 | `3ICE | you might have that in the wrong order, the marines trying to load the bunker into themselves |
| 12:00.49 | `3ICE | that dosnt work :) |
| 12:01.02 | tuz | i think thats what im doing |
| 12:01.10 | tuz | the bunker is using bunkertransport |
| 12:01.12 | `3ICE | the bunker has the ability to load units into itself, so the bunker should use the load ability on the marines |
| 12:01.31 | `3ICE | oh |
| 12:01.42 | tuz | can u have the bunker target a group of marines? |
| 12:02.06 | `3ICE | one by one, yes |
| 12:02.11 | tuz | ok |
| 12:03.07 | tuz | i think i can do that |
| 12:03.07 | tuz | woo |
| 12:03.31 | tuz | im just making a little rpgish map to figure out the editor |
| 12:03.37 | MavercK | beams are really pissing me off |
| 12:03.42 | MavercK | i hate them. |
| 12:04.15 | `3ICE | This ugly line will order every bunker on your map to load every marine on your map: |
| 12:04.15 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:05.12 | Cromalic | hi all |
| 12:06.39 | MavercK | hi |
| 12:07.31 | Cromalic | anyone know if there's a way to change the default hotkeys somehow? |
| 12:07.40 | Cromalic | like how spacebar takes you to the latest event |
| 12:07.47 | Cromalic | or arrow keys scrolling your view |
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| 12:08.34 | `3ICE | instead of going the generalized way, lets be specific: what hotkey are you trying to change? |
| 12:11.15 | Cromalic | ok |
| 12:11.32 | Cromalic | i want the player to be able to scroll the view with WASD instead of the arrow keys |
| 12:11.50 | `3ICE | good, that can be done |
| 12:11.56 | Cromalic | by triggering it? |
| 12:11.59 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 12:12.08 | `3ICE | the default up left right down hotkeys will, however, stay. |
| 12:12.16 | Cromalic | that's ok |
| 12:12.23 | `3ICE | event: player preses W |
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| 12:12.29 | `3ICE | action: change the camera |
| 12:12.40 | Cromalic | ye but |
| 12:12.50 | Cromalic | doesn't this require a period event causing it to lag more? |
| 12:13.06 | redmarine | Anyone knows how to fix the parser issue when playing a NA map via a EU client? |
| 12:13.23 | `3ICE | redmarine "localization tutorial" |
| 12:13.28 | LuxusElg | Cromalic, no, it would just fire everytime someone presses "W" |
| 12:13.34 | redmarine | `3ICE, thanks |
| 12:13.35 | `3ICE | Cromalic yeah, periodic events will be needed |
| 12:13.41 | LuxusElg | really? |
| 12:13.43 | LuxusElg | :O |
| 12:13.44 | `3ICE | but they don't lag that much :) |
| 12:13.56 | Cromalic | :S |
| 12:13.57 | LuxusElg | disregard me then :p |
| 12:13.58 | Cromalic | ok |
| 12:14.05 | Cromalic | thanks 3ICE :) |
| 12:14.16 | `3ICE | you need to keep track of what key is pressed by doing keyUp and keyDown triggers for W A S and D (thats 8 triggers) |
| 12:14.44 | `3ICE | boolean variables W A S and D is true the key is down, if false the key is not down |
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| 12:15.10 | `3ICE | replicating the game's scrolling system is tough :) |
| 12:15.26 | `3ICE | you will probably need a lot of IFs, seeing how W+A goes north-west |
| 12:15.35 | `3ICE | S+D goes south-east |
| 12:15.54 | Cromalic | yea i know |
| 12:15.57 | `3ICE | thats 4 main (W A S D) directions and 4 minor (WA SA WD SD) directions |
| 12:16.01 | `3ICE | 8 IFs |
| 12:16.11 | Cromalic | yup, like a regular WASD movement system |
| 12:16.17 | `3ICE | hmm no, we can do it with 4 yay! |
| 12:16.26 | Cromalic | oh? |
| 12:16.30 | `3ICE | if W then move camera up |
| 12:16.35 | `3ICE | if S then move camera down |
| 12:16.37 | `3ICE | etc etc |
| 12:16.47 | Cromalic | yea but W + A? |
| 12:16.49 | `3ICE | because if W and A are both true, the cam will move up and then left |
| 12:16.54 | Cromalic | are you sure? |
| 12:16.57 | `3ICE | because we dont nest the IFs |
| 12:16.58 | `3ICE | yep |
| 12:17.24 | Azu-foooooooodz | `3ICE stop lie |
| 12:17.32 | `3ICE | go back 2 eating |
| 12:17.35 | `3ICE | -.- |
| 12:17.49 | Azu | pfft |
| 12:17.51 | `3ICE | i finished wayy faster than you :) <3 |
| 12:17.55 | Azu | well |
| 12:18.03 | Azu | i went to town |
| 12:18.09 | Azu | and ate some nomnom pizza :p |
| 12:18.19 | Cromalic | 3ICE well, it still seems a bit iffy the whole thing |
| 12:18.19 | Cromalic | coz |
| 12:18.29 | Cromalic | you have to use the Pan Camera action, right? |
| 12:18.32 | `3ICE | my gf made cauliflower soup and pasta |
| 12:18.46 | `3ICE | yeah camera X and Y coordinates need to be changed constantly |
| 12:18.50 | Azu | mrh |
| 12:18.51 | Azu | e* |
| 12:19.17 | `3ICE | and if the dummie player hold down all 4 keys that's 4 camera actions per 0.00 event |
| 12:19.19 | `3ICE | which sucks :/ |
| 12:19.23 | Azu | `3ICE http://i45.tinypic.com/14jrkm1.png |
| 12:19.32 | Cromalic | :( |
| 12:19.34 | `3ICE | <3 okay |
| 12:19.42 | `3ICE | whats the pay rate of slavery nowadays? |
| 12:19.52 | Azu | non |
| 12:19.53 | `3ICE | free food and accomondations included i assume |
| 12:20.03 | Azu | you have to hunt yourown food |
| 12:20.06 | LuxusElg | and complimentary dailt whippings |
| 12:20.09 | LuxusElg | daily* |
| 12:20.10 | Azu | and build your own place to sleep in |
| 12:20.11 | `3ICE | yeah LuxusElg :) |
| 12:20.25 | `3ICE | and sports |
| 12:20.27 | `3ICE | lots of it |
| 12:20.40 | `3ICE | sports faculties* |
| 12:20.43 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 12:21.02 | `3ICE | fun daily activities like pyramid building |
| 12:21.06 | Azu | 3ice give me some money |
| 12:21.14 | `3ICE | what!? I'm poor. |
| 12:21.16 | Azu | since you = my slave = your money is mine! |
| 12:21.26 | Azu | >:3 |
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| 12:21.35 | `3ICE | I'm the resident beggar here. |
| 12:21.54 | Azu | still :p |
| 12:22.06 | `3ICE | You can be my advocate. |
| 12:22.17 | `3ICE | "gief monies to 3ICE plox" |
| 12:22.22 | Azu | your what and where? |
| 12:22.42 | Azu | yes i suck and english |
| 12:22.58 | `3ICE | meh i had to look the word up in a dictionary too |
| 12:23.04 | `3ICE | i wasn't sure i could use it in that sentence |
| 12:23.07 | Azu | >< |
| 12:23.33 | `3ICE | anyway, back to tutorial-writing |
| 12:23.41 | Azu | hf :p |
| 12:24.15 | `3ICE | my latest piece of work: http://img.3ice.hu/IssueOrderTargeting.png |
| 12:24.26 | Azu | :O |
| 12:24.29 | `3ICE | explains how to change the order type :) |
| 12:24.33 | `3ICE | with 1000 words |
| 12:24.38 | `3ICE | aka "a picture" |
| 12:24.42 | Azu | :p |
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| 12:33.52 | Azu | `3ICE pm |
| 12:34.05 | vjeux | it's not colored enough! |
| 12:34.13 | Azu | lol |
| 12:34.23 | vjeux | make big squares around it |
| 12:34.26 | vjeux | multicolor |
| 12:34.30 | vjeux | so people spot it right |
| 12:34.58 | vjeux | anyway this has been reported to blizz, let's hope it's going to get fixed |
| 12:35.28 | Azu | http://i49.tinypic.com/2vtz6og.png lols |
| 12:36.03 | `3ICE | vjeux it isn't a bug |
| 12:36.24 | vjeux | it is a stupid default param |
| 12:36.34 | `3ICE | yeah with that I agree :) |
| 12:36.41 | `3ICE | oh no I lost my away message because i spoke |
| 12:36.48 | vjeux | owned |
| 12:36.50 | Azu | lols |
| 12:50.57 | Skizot | morning ladies |
| 12:51.21 | Azu | ~ |
| 12:52.40 | Skizot | what bug vjeux? |
| 12:53.13 | MavercK | whose made chain lightning before |
| 12:53.26 | MavercK | i need help with the beam and making it work properly |
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| 12:59.21 | largelyrandom | wewt |
| 12:59.26 | largelyrandom | works! |
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| 13:36.53 | casperb | how do you dolly/pan etc in the previewer windows? :O |
| 13:38.18 | casperb | nvm ^^ |
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| 13:41.36 | devilirium | yaaay ~ can't publish my map ^.~ "Contructing Header File" "Failed" |
| 13:41.44 | devilirium | any suggestion? |
| 13:42.06 | devilirium | (it was working till now) |
| 13:42.14 | WhiskeeGX | do you have player 14 set on anything but "none"? |
| 13:42.18 | WhiskeeGX | it's bugged. |
| 13:43.21 | devilirium | going to test it. |
| 13:43.32 | MavercK | certain team settings in game variants also causes problems |
| 13:44.28 | WhiskeeGX | if you are in EU, the publishing system is down |
| 13:44.29 | devilirium | kk - checking them out. |
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| 13:44.30 | WhiskeeGX | (I think) |
| 13:44.42 | devilirium | O.o |
| 13:44.45 | devilirium | r u sure? |
| 13:44.58 | WhiskeeGX | some people reporting my same error on the official forum |
| 13:45.10 | WhiskeeGX | gateway_file_append_error |
| 13:45.18 | devilirium | I'm having that - |
| 13:45.37 | WhiskeeGX | welcome to europe, the magic world where servers suck :P |
| 13:45.41 | devilirium | XD |
| 13:45.59 | devilirium | Kay - then we have to wait till they get it working? :P |
| 13:46.20 | WhiskeeGX | it's been like that since 8am gt or so |
| 13:46.45 | WhiskeeGX | I needed to test mine :/ |
| 13:46.46 | devilirium | Nice. |
| 13:47.02 | devilirium | We also wanted to test out the modded things on 1v1 |
| 13:47.18 | devilirium | but, we failed here :D |
| 13:47.22 | devilirium | so i guess we have to wait. |
| 13:48.08 | casperb | Heck half of the modders from europe just do it because the servers are unplayable :P |
| 13:48.41 | WhiskeeGX | half of the modders from europe... so like 7 or 8 people :P |
| 13:48.46 | devilirium | XD |
| 13:48.50 | devilirium | You liar ~ |
| 13:48.57 | devilirium | We have like.... 20-30 ppl! |
| 13:49.04 | WhiskeeGX | ohgawd |
| 13:49.19 | WhiskeeGX | well we are lucky to be honest |
| 13:49.24 | WhiskeeGX | testing new versions in US is a pain :P |
| 13:49.31 | WhiskeeGX | I just spam 30-40 create games and i'm on page 1 |
| 13:49.40 | WhiskeeGX | (yes having to do that sucks) |
| 13:49.50 | devilirium | :D |
| 13:56.00 | TheLaughingMan | Blah |
| 13:56.03 | devilirium | bloh |
| 13:57.52 | Skizot | anyone here got a BADASS computer? |
| 13:58.02 | Skizot | one that could do a 1080p video of my map? |
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| 14:01.06 | heysparky | later folks |
| 14:01.36 | Skizot | i guess not |
| 14:04.08 | casperb | crappy gfx card so |
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| 14:28.32 | Cromalic | hmmm |
| 14:28.42 | Cromalic | if i have an event |
| 14:29.07 | Cromalic | where a unit enters within 1.0 of a point |
| 14:29.20 | Cromalic | how can you get that point later in the trigger? |
| 14:29.24 | Cromalic | there's no 'triggering point' |
| 14:29.36 | `3ICE | center of Entered region? |
| 14:29.36 | Cromalic | anyone know? |
| 14:29.41 | `3ICE | ome bullshit like that |
| 14:29.44 | Cromalic | :S |
| 14:30.09 | Cromalic | triggering region doesn't work it seems |
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| 14:33.14 | Cromalic | found a workaround |
| 14:33.28 | Cromalic | by checking what point was close to the triggering unit :p |
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| 14:44.48 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/2511-reaper-sidescroller/ |
| 14:44.50 | vjeux | check this out |
| 14:45.07 | Skizot | i saw |
| 14:46.04 | Skizot | so what... is it better than mine vjeux |
| 14:46.05 | Skizot | ? |
| 14:46.28 | vjeux | nop :P |
| 14:47.00 | vjeux | but the use of cliffs is clever |
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| 14:51.26 | Milkakuh02 | hello, any way to place creep manual in the terrain? |
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| 14:53.56 | Skizot | yes |
| 14:54.03 | Skizot | place a burrowed creep tumor. |
| 14:55.05 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/random-wars/. Random Wars. sylten91 (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 14:55.06 | `3ICE | by the way creep automatically decays over time if you don't have a creep tumor or other creep-generating unit supporting it. so it isn't like undead blight in warcraft 3 that we could jsut add to the terrain |
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| 14:57.21 | Milkakuh02 | hm |
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| 14:57.26 | Milkakuh02 | but then it is fucking big |
| 14:57.29 | Milkakuh02 | want just small pieces |
| 14:57.30 | `3ICE | then edit it |
| 14:57.38 | Milkakuh02 | hm k |
| 14:57.39 | Milkakuh02 | :) |
| 14:57.41 | `3ICE | you can change anything in the editor :) |
| 14:57.55 | `3ICE | have 10 different creep tumors all creating a smaller/bigger circle |
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| 14:58.32 | TheLaughingMan | Skizot |
| 15:00.38 | AsaPhelps | how do you change the creep tumor's circle? |
| 15:00.49 | `3ICE | data editor |
| 15:00.55 | `3ICE | creep spawning is probably a behavior |
| 15:01.01 | `3ICE | or footprint |
| 15:01.09 | AsaPhelps | its a behavior |
| 15:01.51 | devilirium | you could change a lot of thing in the data editor, just search around it then if you are out of options, lets jump into the triggers (hell, it's about time!) |
| 15:03.58 | `3ICE | AsaPhelps actually it is a footprint |
| 15:04.35 | `3ICE | Creep Growth Medium links to Footprint4x4CreepSourceGrown |
| 15:07.39 | AsaPhelps | but its caused by the behavior |
| 15:08.00 | `3ICE | yeah but only the final link in the chain is important |
| 15:08.28 | `3ICE | changing the generated creep's size is done @ the footprint level |
| 15:09.23 | devilirium | Seems like the publication works now. |
| 15:09.31 | devilirium | So: go-go EU! |
| 15:10.42 | Skizot | yo |
| 15:10.48 | Skizot | TheLaughingMan what's up? |
| 15:11.33 | MrRoy | how can I make it so the last player remaining wins? |
| 15:11.46 | MrRoy | I've been looking in events and conditions but can't find anything like it |
| 15:13.34 | MrRoy | anyone knows? |
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| 15:19.14 | Milkakuh02 | isnt this a standard melee trigger |
| 15:19.59 | MrRoy | well |
| 15:20.06 | MrRoy | all the players are allied |
| 15:23.49 | MrRoy | like, there's 6 players and 2 bots, I want it that when only 1 player is left, he wins (and not no bots left) |
| 15:27.30 | AsaPhelps | whats a unit that has a bonus vs biological? |
| 15:29.52 | `3ICE | archon? |
| 15:30.53 | `3ICE | by the way i just googled "sc2 vs biological |
| 15:34.27 | casperb | ghost |
| 15:35.40 | `3ICE | nope, ghost doesn't do bonus dmg vs bio |
| 15:35.47 | `3ICE | it does +10 vs light |
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| 15:46.57 | LuxusElg | anyone familiar with the Hellion flamethrower? |
| 15:48.45 | LuxusElg | alternately, are there any good tutorials on how to make awesome flamethrower weapons? |
| 15:49.22 | RickA | What do you need? |
| 15:49.39 | LuxusElg | I'm trying to create a firebat unit |
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| 15:50.03 | LuxusElg | based off the marauder model, but obviously with a flamethrower instead of rocket launchers |
| 15:50.25 | RickA | Scale down the hellion flame model and reduce its aoe? |
| 15:50.37 | Skizot | all you should have to do is give a maraduer the hellions weapon. |
| 15:50.45 | LuxusElg | I did, and it worked |
| 15:51.10 | LuxusElg | but when I tried to duplicate it, to make different flamethrower weapons for him to use, it stopped working properly |
| 15:51.38 | Skizot | different weapons? |
| 15:51.42 | LuxusElg | yeah |
| 15:51.54 | Skizot | did you duplicate EVERYTHING under the weapon? |
| 15:52.08 | LuxusElg | I thought I did |
| 15:52.19 | LuxusElg | the thing is, it works |
| 15:52.33 | LuxusElg | but instead of a beam of fire, it shoots a fire projectile |
| 15:52.48 | LuxusElg | and sometimes nothing at all |
| 15:55.10 | thmsn | how would you prevent a certain enemy unit type from attacking an allied unit type, but allow allies to attack that unit type ? |
| 16:05.03 | allenmelon | crkr! |
| 16:05.24 | allenmelon | anyone beat it? |
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| 16:09.01 | redmarine | Hi, anyone knows how to prioritize selection? |
| 16:10.56 | redmarine | Anyone knows? |
| 16:11.17 | RickA | Its a data editor value |
| 16:11.24 | redmarine | What is it called? |
| 16:13.50 | `3ICE | find it... selection / priority / order |
| 16:14.00 | `3ICE | there is only 2 pages of data on a unit, not hard to find something |
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| 16:15.36 | `3ICE | FieldStalker |
| 16:15.37 | `3ICE | Unit - Subgroup Priority11 |
| 16:17.34 | redmarine | hm, |
| 16:17.38 | redmarine | doesn't seem to work |
| 16:18.23 | redmarine | Well, the units I'm trying to exclude from when selecting a couple of units the selection are buildings. |
| 16:18.48 | `3ICE | damn it people should learn to ask questions properly... |
| 16:19.18 | redmarine | I thought they were related |
| 16:19.36 | `3ICE | yeah i misunderstood your question |
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| 16:21.33 | redmarine | The unit I want to exclude from a selection, that is if no unit is selected as well, is a beacon that I turned into a building. |
| 16:22.11 | `3ICE | check the unselectable flag or turn it into a doodad |
| 16:22.22 | redmarine | k |
| 16:23.40 | thmsn | how would you prevent a certain enemy unit type from attacking an allied unit type, but allow allies to attack that unit type ? |
| 16:27.28 | redmarine | Well, the problem is that the beacon is always selected when you drag-select |
| 16:27.50 | redmarine | since it is a building its the only thing that gets selected out of all units |
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| 16:27.59 | MrRoy | well |
| 16:28.08 | MrRoy | you can make that unit passive in the data, but that's not what you want is it? |
| 16:28.21 | redmarine | Well, it has to be owned by players |
| 16:28.36 | redmarine | Hence why it must be selectable but only when no units are around |
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| 16:29.05 | MrRoy | thmsn |
| 16:29.09 | MrRoy | u there6 |
| 16:29.15 | thmsn | yarp |
| 16:29.16 | elmstfreddie | hello all |
| 16:29.18 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nt7FIicrQ&feature=related |
| 16:29.23 | MrRoy | you can make the unit passive in the data editor |
| 16:29.27 | MrRoy | if you don't want it to attack |
| 16:29.30 | MrRoy | but it'll just run away |
| 16:29.46 | redmarine | well, it is a building |
| 16:29.48 | Skizot | set it to (none) |
| 16:29.50 | redmarine | it won't be able to attack |
| 16:30.30 | thmsn | MrRoy currently its an egg should not be able to run away, i'm making a tag game :) like sheep tag |
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| 16:30.45 | MrRoy | oh |
| 16:31.00 | MrRoy | redmarine I was talking to thmsn |
| 16:31.04 | thmsn | and once your builder is tagged it dies and an egg spawns in the middle |
| 16:31.09 | redmarine | yeah figured after |
| 16:31.40 | MrRoy | so |
| 16:31.46 | MrRoy | you want people to be able to attack the egg? |
| 16:31.50 | MrRoy | but the egg not attack others? |
| 16:32.05 | thmsn | I want the allied people to be able to attack the egg to free it |
| 16:32.33 | allenmelon | whats the egg? |
| 16:33.05 | thmsn | a unit |
| 16:33.17 | MrRoy | umm |
| 16:33.27 | MrRoy | we you can make a trigger that changes the player alliance when he's an egg |
| 16:33.29 | Demonette | Hi guys |
| 16:33.31 | elmstfreddie | thmsn, haven't tried this out in sc2, but in wc3 you'd do "unit is attacked" and check if "attacking unit" is an ally of "attacked unit" |
| 16:33.33 | allenmelon | make it not able to attack? |
| 16:33.36 | MrRoy | and force the egg to hold position |
| 16:33.41 | MrRoy | and of course make it not able to attack |
| 16:33.42 | elmstfreddie | and... then if he isn't an ally, you stop him, and it should stop him before he deals damage |
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| 16:34.18 | thmsn | elmstfreddie then just cancel the current order? |
| 16:34.26 | elmstfreddie | issue order to stop |
| 16:34.34 | thmsn | that could work |
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| 16:34.57 | thmsn | MrRoy ye I did not want to change the alliance, that means you can't chat with your team mates right? |
| 16:35.13 | RodOfNOD | Hi all |
| 16:35.28 | MrRoy | well |
| 16:35.29 | MrRoy | yes |
| 16:35.46 | elmstfreddie | even if you change the alliance you can still attack teammates anyway |
| 16:36.14 | thmsn | true |
| 16:36.21 | thmsn | I guess triggers is the solution |
| 16:36.22 | MrRoy | well by default if you attack a teammate it will not attack back |
| 16:36.26 | RodOfNOD | what if u set it so all the attacks couldnt attack allied i know this was possible in wc3 at least |
| 16:36.35 | MrRoy | but if you want people to be able to attack it as if it was an enemy |
| 16:36.49 | MrRoy | you can make it so the egg is not the dead player's one, but when the egg dies, the player comes back |
| 16:37.05 | MrRoy | like, when the player dies, an egg spawns at his place, but it's not his |
| 16:37.11 | thmsn | MrRoy right I could make it neutral |
| 16:37.27 | MrRoy | yes but people will have to press A to attack ti |
| 16:37.29 | MrRoy | it* |
| 16:37.32 | MrRoy | is that what you want |
| 16:37.45 | thmsn | that will work, right clicking would be better though |
| 16:37.50 | MrRoy | ya |
| 16:37.58 | MrRoy | you can do something else tho |
| 16:38.03 | MrRoy | don't make it neutral, make it enemy |
| 16:38.10 | MrRoy | and remove the ability to move and attack for the egg |
| 16:38.52 | thmsn | Thanks for the input, i've got some diffrent ideas how to solve it now :) |
| 16:38.59 | MrRoy | no problem :P |
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| 16:44.10 | Vortexx | if i add a unit to a unit group, then later add it to a different group, will the unit be in both groups? |
| 16:44.28 | MrRoy | if it is not removed from the first one, it should |
| 16:44.35 | MrRoy | not sure tho |
| 16:44.44 | Vortexx | is there a remove from group function? |
| 16:45.04 | Vortexx | ya there is |
| 16:45.12 | MrRoy | ya |
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| 16:47.29 | elmstfreddie | Vortex, yes it will be in both groups |
| 16:47.44 | elmstfreddie | oh wait nvm I get what mrroy was saying now |
| 16:49.16 | MrRoy | huh |
| 16:49.19 | MrRoy | what do you mean o.o |
| 16:49.37 | elmstfreddie | haha, didn't get waht you said at first, I read it wrong. |
| 16:49.43 | MrRoy | lol |
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| 16:51.42 | elmstfreddie | btw, does the locking feature work for publishing? I can't believe they made that feature though. it saddens me, :( |
| 16:51.43 | Vortexx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.55 | Vortexx | is there a way to get more than one unit from a unit group at a time? |
| 16:52.20 | elmstfreddie | vortex, what doy ou mean by that |
| 16:52.25 | Vortexx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.25 | Vortexx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.30 | Vortexx | well that seems kinda klunky |
| 16:52.53 | Vortexx | there are like 9 mutas in zerg wave 3, i want to take 3 of them and send them to attack a different point |
| 16:53.22 | MrRoy | you can copy and paste the trigger 3 times |
| 16:53.28 | Vortexx | well, ya |
| 16:53.39 | Vortexx | still klunky |
| 16:53.41 | elmstfreddie | uhm, vortex, when the order zerg 3 wave group to attack |
| 16:53.45 | Vortexx | oh well |
| 16:53.45 | elmstfreddie | do you do it once? |
| 16:53.55 | elmstfreddie | cause if you do, you could just order them all... then piick the mutalisks individually and order something diff |
| 16:54.06 | Vortexx | it's timed |
| 16:54.20 | Vortexx | or periodic rather |
| 16:54.20 | elmstfreddie | Explain |
| 16:54.30 | elmstfreddie | So they continually are reordered? |
| 16:54.35 | Vortexx | every 45 sec, group attacks point |
| 16:54.40 | Vortexx | ya |
| 16:54.48 | elmstfreddie | meh, you can still do what I said then though |
| 16:54.56 | Vortexx | seems like the only way |
| 16:54.59 | elmstfreddie | order them all to do that, then pick the muta's specifically and order something diff |
| 16:55.27 | Vortexx | big map, they start doing the order, but before they get there, it's replaced |
| 16:55.34 | Vortexx | i could make the trigger, After existing order |
| 16:55.52 | Vortexx | the the ones w/o orders will go |
| 16:59.17 | MrRoy | I need help with a trigger I can't get to work |
| 16:59.33 | elmstfreddie | mmkay |
| 16:59.36 | MrRoy | At map initialization, I want an action to repeat |
| 16:59.48 | MrRoy | the action is "General - Repeat (Actions) forever) |
| 17:00.27 | elmstfreddie | I usually don't like actions like that, because you just know their underlying code is evil |
| 17:00.28 | MrRoy | actions : (General - Wait 2.0 Game Time seconds) (Unit Group - Pick each unit in group 1 and do (order picked unit to move targeting point X) |
| 17:00.40 | MrRoy | but, they do not |
| 17:00.51 | MrRoy | Every two seconds, they should be given the order to target point X |
| 17:00.58 | MrRoy | but it won't work |
| 17:01.06 | elmstfreddie | K remember when I said the underlying code is evil? |
| 17:01.14 | elmstfreddie | Well, it uses a loop clearly, because, waits in loops do not work. |
| 17:01.15 | MrRoy | lol |
| 17:01.22 | elmstfreddie | Why not just use a periodic trigger? |
| 17:01.30 | MrRoy | umm |
| 17:01.45 | MrRoy | what do you mean |
| 17:01.54 | elmstfreddie | event - every 2.0 seconds of real time |
| 17:01.54 | Vortexx | found an even better one! |
| 17:02.04 | Vortexx | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.23 | Vortexx | that at most will help i think |
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| 17:02.26 | MrRoy | didnt you want 3? |
| 17:02.48 | elmstfreddie | Vortex, why dfon't you just do units in unit group matching condition |
| 17:02.55 | elmstfreddie | and then have them match the condition of unit type = whatever |
| 17:02.59 | Vortexx | that's what that is |
| 17:03.09 | Vortexx | units in unit group in region |
| 17:03.13 | MrRoy | elmstfreddie, Imma try that im pretty it'll work, thanks |
| 17:03.23 | elmstfreddie | Vortex, nonono. |
| 17:03.40 | elmstfreddie | what you did isn't matching a condition though |
| 17:03.49 | Vortexx | oh, no |
| 17:03.56 | elmstfreddie | you just chose 4 units from zerg 3 wave that are within the region zerg 3 wave lol |
| 17:04.17 | Vortexx | it worked for my purpose, i did't mean it was what you said >.< |
| 17:04.30 | elmstfreddie | oh, it worked eh? |
| 17:04.33 | elmstfreddie | interesting lol |
| 17:04.34 | Vortexx | well, idk |
| 17:04.41 | Vortexx | you don't think it will? |
| 17:04.43 | elmstfreddie | It in theory would just pick 4 random units from the unit group |
| 17:04.49 | elmstfreddie | that are in that region |
| 17:04.55 | elmstfreddie | I'm assuming all your unit types are in the same region right |
| 17:04.56 | Vortexx | ya, that's good |
| 17:05.10 | Vortexx | no actualy, that region is just mutas |
| 17:05.18 | MrRoy | elmstfreddie, do event is every 1 seconds of real time, unit group - pick each unit in groupX and do (actions) |
| 17:05.22 | MrRoy | is that correct? |
| 17:05.31 | elmstfreddie | ohh, okay vortex. then yeah taht's fine |
| 17:05.34 | elmstfreddie | and, mrroy, yes |
| 17:05.38 | MrRoy | ok |
| 17:05.52 | MrRoy | but |
| 17:05.57 | MrRoy | in actions to I put order picked unit |
| 17:06.03 | MrRoy | or I must do picked unitS or something |
| 17:06.19 | elmstfreddie | picked unit |
| 17:06.22 | MrRoy | ok |
| 17:08.59 | Ignorance | aaaaa |
| 17:09.01 | Vortexx | awesome, it worked |
| 17:09.11 | MrRoy | it works, but is there a better way to do what I want? I want to make it so (it's a defense map) if they block the way, the units that are offensive will attack, and kill stuff in the way, then the trigger will order them to continue |
| 17:09.15 | casperb | So all the data table methods, obviously refer to a data storage but what kind of storage? local scope refers to the data being on the local machine or? |
| 17:09.24 | MrRoy | what it does right now is they stop, attack anything they see until the trigger happens |
| 17:09.52 | Vortexx | i've notice that when a base is blocked, the creeps get confused and don't attack |
| 17:10.03 | Vortexx | if the point they are after is behind the blocked area |
| 17:10.16 | elmstfreddie | @mrroy, it's the only way tod o it |
| 17:10.56 | elmstfreddie | @casperb, you can define scopes in triggers, that's what the local scope is |
| 17:11.09 | elmstfreddie | global is game data |
| 17:12.51 | casperb | local refers to local function scope? that's kinda.. bizarre |
| 17:17.08 | elmstfreddie | I'm pretty sure it's not local function scopes |
| 17:17.09 | elmstfreddie | just.. scopes |
| 17:17.14 | elmstfreddie | that you define |
| 17:17.22 | elmstfreddie | all them? I dunno though. haven't played with scopes |
| 17:19.05 | MrRoy | If I put a "Trigger - Turn (Current trigger) Off" as the first action, will it prevent the other actions from hapenning? |
| 17:19.20 | MrRoy | or just prevent him from repeating |
| 17:19.20 | Vortexx | no |
| 17:20.30 | MrRoy | k |
| 17:21.58 | MrRoy | can I make some actions only happen once in a trigger, but other repeats every time the event is met? |
| 17:22.03 | MrRoy | others* |
| 17:22.30 | MavercK | if then else? |
| 17:23.18 | MrRoy | umm |
| 17:23.57 | MrRoy | how could I put that in an in then else |
| 17:24.11 | MrRoy | if current trigger already happened, then? |
| 17:24.50 | MavercK | make it set a value |
| 17:25.04 | MavercK | and check if value = 1 then/else |
| 17:25.41 | `3ICE | easier the use a boolean |
| 17:25.44 | `3ICE | if value then |
| 17:25.50 | `3ICE | saves you a whole ==1 operation |
| 17:26.46 | MrRoy | I think instead I'll make two triggers |
| 17:27.34 | MavercK | if they activate off the same event i'd recommend against it |
| 17:27.49 | MrRoy | why |
| 17:28.01 | MavercK | my map used to use "any unit dies" like 8 times |
| 17:28.03 | MavercK | 8 different events |
| 17:28.17 | MavercK | everytime a unit died it ran that event 8 times. x4 for every player |
| 17:28.23 | MavercK | so everytime a unit died the game would stutter |
| 17:28.46 | Clord | while it goes against some people way to organize triggers etc |
| 17:28.56 | Clord | XD |
| 17:29.01 | MavercK | :P |
| 17:29.03 | Clord | it is good idea to not use same event twice |
| 17:29.11 | MrRoy | because the trigger is that if a unit from player 7 enters a specified region, it dies, then camera pans, then wait, then shake camera, then wait, then kill all units of player, then makes player X defeat |
| 17:29.18 | Clord | in some cases lol |
| 17:29.32 | MrRoy | but I don't want it to spam player X has died everytime a unit enters |
| 17:29.42 | MrRoy | if I put a turn trigger off, it will only kill 1 unit |
| 17:29.46 | MrRoy | I want all the units to die |
| 17:30.00 | MrRoy | so I'd do a second trigger that kills all units that enter the area without a turning off or anything else |
| 17:30.02 | MavercK | use pick units action |
| 17:30.12 | MavercK | and that sounds pretty easy to do with if then else |
| 17:30.16 | MavercK | with a boolean |
| 17:30.30 | MavercK | game start > set playeralive? == true |
| 17:30.45 | MavercK | then when they lose, run your trigger to do all your fancy stuff |
| 17:30.53 | MavercK | and at the end set playeralive? == false |
| 17:31.08 | MrRoy | oohhh |
| 17:31.09 | MrRoy | sure |
| 17:31.10 | MavercK | so if another unit enters the region it will check if they are alive first and if not. it will ignore the rest |
| 17:33.56 | MrRoy | what's the condition of a player alive |
| 17:33.58 | MrRoy | it's not status |
| 17:34.26 | MrRoy | ohh nvm |
| 17:34.28 | MavercK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.28 | MrRoy | found it i think |
| 17:34.30 | MavercK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.30 | MavercK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.30 | MavercK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.30 | MavercK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.30 | MavercK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.38 | MrRoy | ok |
| 17:34.47 | MavercK | i used a variable. not a boolean |
| 17:34.50 | MavercK | either is fine |
| 17:35.07 | MavercK | or integer i should say |
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| 17:42.21 | Lyrrad | you could probably combine it all into 1 variable |
| 17:43.40 | Reactorex`Asleep | Yeah, probably could. |
| 17:44.13 | Lyrrad | You sleep typing Ractor? |
| 17:45.01 | Reactorex`Asleep | Yep. |
| 17:45.10 | Reactorex`Eating | :P |
| 17:45.56 | MrRoy | I tried with (If "status of player 1 == playing" then "fancy stuff + end game in defeat for player 1" else "fancy stuff" |
| 17:46.13 | MrRoy | but I think I know why |
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| 17:46.57 | MrRoy | is there a way to make a player defeat but it doesn't force him to quit (the Defeat! Show score screen thingy) |
| 17:47.03 | MrRoy | or unless until later |
| 17:47.30 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:47.54 | MavercK | i think it only does that on local |
| 17:47.58 | Lyrrad | not that I am aware of, you can remove all his units and not let him do anything, but it wouldn't be offically defeated yet |
| 17:47.59 | MavercK | unless im wrong |
| 17:48.51 | MrRoy | MavercK, so on multiplayer he could stay in game and watch other and chat? |
| 17:49.25 | MrRoy | Lyrrad, it's cuz when all other players a defeated, remaining player wins, so if he isnt defeated, then remaining player won't win |
| 17:49.56 | Lyrrad | You cand the game in "Victory" for the winning player |
| 17:50.23 | Lyrrad | *can end |
| 17:50.31 | MrRoy | well he wins when all the other players are defeated |
| 17:50.43 | MrRoy | or is there a way to make it win when others dont have units? |
| 17:53.18 | Lyrrad | yes, you just check to see if anyone else has units, and if they don't end the game |
| 17:55.10 | MrRoy | k |
| 17:56.50 | Skizot | PLAY MAH MAP |
| 17:57.31 | Twiner | NO |
| 17:57.35 | Skizot | NAO |
| 17:57.37 | Twiner | your map sucks! |
| 17:57.50 | Twiner | and you smell like rotten pancakes! |
| 17:57.51 | Skizot | NO US |
| 18:04.48 | MrRoy | how to make a condition if player has any units? |
| 18:04.53 | MrRoy | or has no units |
| 18:05.59 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/overworld-map-system/. Overworld Map System. RobbleRobbles (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
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| 18:07.47 | Lyrrad | It can be done with unit groups |
| 18:08.19 | MrRoy | empty unit group? |
| 18:09.20 | MrRoy | think i got it |
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| 18:09.54 | Vortexx | when you run trigger via the run trigger trigger, that trigger does not require events to activate, correct? |
| 18:10.03 | Vortexx | trigger trigger |
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| 18:10.28 | Kerotan | Anyone having issues publishing atm? |
| 18:11.55 | MrRoy | I don't think so Vortexx |
| 18:12.08 | Lyrrad | Vortexx - if you use the Run trigger action, then it does not need the event to happen |
| 18:12.11 | MrRoy | if it is supposed to run a trigger, the trigger runned shouldn't check if the event is |
| 18:12.16 | Vortexx | cool |
| 18:12.37 | Lyrrad | And you can also tell it to ignore the conditions, but I have never done that |
| 18:12.56 | Lyrrad | so I don't know if it works or not |
| 18:13.17 | MrRoy | Lyrrad |
| 18:13.17 | Kerotan | Anyone willing to help bump my map up on the EU servers? :p |
| 18:13.36 | Lyrrad | yes |
| 18:13.51 | MrRoy | can you tell me why my trigger won't work correctly (the else is supposed to happen only once, but it happens as many times as the event happens) |
| 18:14.12 | MrRoy | and how do you copy and paste stuff from the trigger editor |
| 18:14.18 | MrRoy | nvm |
| 18:14.25 | Vortexx | can you make create a dropship with another unit already inside? |
| 18:14.25 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.25 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.25 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.25 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.25 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.25 | Lyrrad | if it keeps happening then the conditions of the if are not being met |
| 18:14.25 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.25 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.26 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.26 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.27 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.27 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.28 | MrRoy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:16.54 | MrRoy | how can I make it check if the unit group is empty? |
| 18:17.35 | Lyrrad | try (Number of Living units in (Any units in (Entire map) owned by player 1 matching Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most Any Amount)) == 0 |
| 18:18.10 | Kerotan | Is there a way to bump your map up the popularity list? |
| 18:18.24 | Lyrrad | Just having lots of games played |
| 18:18.32 | Kerotan | Anyway to do it quickyl I mean |
| 18:19.08 | Lyrrad | just by having lots of games played quickly |
| 18:19.52 | Kerotan | Hard to do on my own :( |
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| 18:20.34 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen |
| 18:21.18 | MrRoy | Lyrrad, it worked, thanks a lot! |
| 18:25.42 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Sixen |
| 18:25.42 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 17h 58m 30s) #wowuidev (1d 17h 58m 30s). Has said a total of 165 messages. Is idling for 7h 13m 34s, last said: 'Alright, I need to sleep. 4am.'. |
| 18:26.06 | MrRoy | lol |
| 18:26.07 | Reactorex`Eating | Who was complaining about not being able to get specific letters or parts of words or whatever the other day? |
| 18:26.11 | Reactorex`Eating | The answer to it was simple >_> |
| 18:26.28 | Ignorance | Hey guys |
| 18:26.36 | Ignorance | where do I set the countdown time? |
| 18:26.39 | Ignorance | for the lobby |
| 18:26.42 | Ignorance | 10 seconds is too long |
| 18:26.45 | Reactorex | Game VAriants. |
| 18:26.49 | Ignorance | ty |
| 18:26.51 | Reactorex | 5 seconds makes it 8. |
| 18:26.55 | Reactorex | Try 0. |
| 18:28.38 | Ignorance | okay, the editor |
| 18:28.40 | Ignorance | keeps saying |
| 18:28.48 | Ignorance | bnet connection lost |
| 18:28.52 | Ignorance | whenever I try to login |
| 18:29.08 | Reactorex | Your BNet server settings are wrong. |
| 18:29.10 | Reactorex | EU or US? |
| 18:29.21 | Ignorance | AH |
| 18:29.21 | Ignorance | that |
| 18:29.23 | Ignorance | now I remember |
| 18:29.26 | Reactorex | Preferences > Battle.net |
| 18:29.29 | Ignorance | didn't change that on the laptop |
| 18:29.34 | Reactorex | us-beta.logon.battle.net for US |
| 18:29.52 | Reactorex | I think it's just eu-beta for EU |
| 18:30.40 | Ignorance | and how do I change |
| 18:30.46 | Ignorance | way to save |
| 18:30.51 | Ignorance | i.e. optimized for size |
| 18:30.54 | Ignorance | rather than speed |
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| 18:31.36 | Kerotan | Sigh, spam creating my map but it dosent seem to be going up. Cant even find it |
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| 18:31.57 | Reactorex | Woot. 75 friends. |
| 18:32.04 | Ignorance | don't know? |
| 18:32.10 | Reactorex | Kerotan, you're starting the map? |
| 18:32.12 | Ignorance | where save optimization is for map settings? |
| 18:32.15 | Kerotan | Yes |
| 18:32.24 | Reactorex | Public or private? |
| 18:32.28 | Kerotan | public ofc |
| 18:32.43 | Reactorex | They may or may not have added a requirement of 2 players to put it in to the list. |
| 18:32.50 | Reactorex | They had two service updates recently, y'know. |
| 18:32.54 | Kerotan | That would be retarded |
| 18:33.08 | Kerotan | How would any new map ever be up on the list then |
| 18:33.14 | Reactorex | Name of the map? |
| 18:33.28 | Kerotan | Ace Tower Defence V0.14 |
| 18:33.32 | Kerotan | eu servers |
| 18:33.42 | Reactorex | Mm. |
| 18:33.43 | Reactorex | I'm US. |
| 18:33.45 | Ignorance | us-beta.logon.battle.net |
| 18:33.48 | Kerotan | :( |
| 18:33.50 | Reactorex | Sorry 'bout that. |
| 18:34.11 | Lyrrad | Why should a single player map show up in the "Join Gmaes" section? |
| 18:34.21 | Reactorex | BTW, Ignorance: |
| 18:34.52 | Reactorex | Preferences > Documents to decide save option for balancing against faster saves or smaller files (faster in-game load, too, I think) |
| 18:35.16 | Kerotan | finnaly, its shown up on the list |
| 18:35.33 | RodOfNOD | need a recommendation on how to group ie objectify 3 types of variables. I want an array that has 3 types of info, string, integer and unit. Best way to do this? |
| 18:35.54 | RodOfNOD | in wc3 i used a cache how best to do this in galaxy? |
| 18:35.54 | Reactorex | Unit or unit type? |
| 18:36.01 | Kerotan | I dont think there is a way is there? o.0 |
| 18:36.06 | Reactorex | Try data tables, Rod. |
| 18:36.13 | Ignorance | How do I change the color of a map name? |
| 18:36.13 | RodOfNOD | i cant see a way to GET data |
| 18:36.19 | Reactorex | I can. |
| 18:36.21 | Reactorex | I've done it. |
| 18:36.23 | RodOfNOD | except using galaxy |
| 18:36.30 | RodOfNOD | script |
| 18:36.39 | Reactorex | I do it in GUI |
| 18:36.59 | Reactorex | Value from Data Table (type) |
| 18:36.59 | RodOfNOD | ic all the sets but no gets grr |
| 18:37.13 | RodOfNOD | ah nm |
| 18:37.19 | RodOfNOD | of course its on the other side of the equation |
| 18:37.25 | Reactorex | lawl. |
| 18:37.27 | Reactorex | xD |
| 18:37.29 | RodOfNOD | gui blows :P |
| 18:37.44 | Reactorex | It's on both sides, Rod. |
| 18:37.59 | RodOfNOD | yes but its not a trigger |
| 18:38.08 | RodOfNOD | so u dont see the RIGHT side in the trigger list choices |
| 18:38.09 | Reactorex | Value from Data Table can be seen on two sides of an if comparison or on the value for a set variable. |
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| 18:39.07 | Reactorex | You can get the values in ifs and in equations and you can set the values in Data Table -> Save Data Table Value (type) |
| 18:39.32 | Reactorex | I used data tables for my dialogs on day 1 of the editor since I hadn't seen the Dialog and Dialog Item type variables earlier on. |
| 18:39.52 | Reactorex | You might also consider caching the data to a bank? |
| 18:40.00 | Reactorex | Depending on how you want to use it, ofc. |
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| 18:42.16 | Roddy | idk what happend got wacked |
| 18:43.22 | Roddy | so anyways.... is anyone doing only galaxy coding and if so do you have to use winmpq to insert the file or what? |
| 18:44.38 | Kerotan | 3rd page finnaly! |
| 18:44.42 | Kerotan | Hopefully people will play now |
| 18:45.21 | Roddy | so is blizzard planning on having any kind of other way to show games to play? i mean when htere are 100k games its gonna be real hard to find a new game |
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| 18:48.03 | Roddy | slaps RodOfNOD around a bit with a large trout |
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| 18:49.48 | Skizot | lol |
| 18:49.53 | Skizot | rod of POO |
| 18:49.54 | Skizot | lol |
| 18:50.03 | Roddy | hey skiz |
| 18:50.34 | GardenOfAiuyr | xenrathe here? |
| 18:50.55 | TheLaughingMan | Skizot |
| 18:52.12 | GardenOfAiuyr | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/3/288/dnawars.jpg |
| 18:52.36 | devilirium | wtf?! |
| 18:52.38 | devilirium | O_o |
| 18:52.39 | devilirium | Nice |
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| 18:56.26 | Lyrrad | GoA - Thats pretty good |
| 18:57.24 | Demonette | Time for the timeless |
| 18:57.57 | Twiner | is it possible to hide the game ui and still have the menu f10 visible? |
| 18:58.15 | devilirium | Everything is possible ~ |
| 18:58.33 | Vortexx | i am trying to run a trigger when 3 specific units all die, but the and condition doesn't seem to be working |
| 18:58.55 | Twiner | are you using the and condition correctly? |
| 18:59.12 | Twiner | with and, you put all items you want to be anded together under it |
| 18:59.19 | Reactorex | twiner, if is by default and. |
| 18:59.24 | Twiner | Conditions - And - true, true, true |
| 18:59.30 | Reactorex | Only if you use an or do you need to use an and again. |
| 18:59.38 | Twiner | yes of course |
| 18:59.44 | Vortexx | unit dies > triggering unit = a & triggering unit = b & triggering unit = b; run trigger b |
| 18:59.46 | Reactorex | Just do Conditions - true, true, true-- same result. |
| 18:59.56 | Reactorex | Ah, that explains it. |
| 19:00.05 | Vortexx | ic |
| 19:00.07 | Reactorex | Vortexx, that'll only be run when ONE unit dies. |
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| 19:00.13 | WaterKnight | hi |
| 19:00.13 | Reactorex | That's trying to check if that unit is THREE UNITS at once. |
| 19:00.15 | Twiner | ah es |
| 19:00.17 | Reactorex | But it can't do that. |
| 19:00.18 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 19:00.22 | Reactorex | Just check if the other two are dead. |
| 19:00.49 | Demonette | does anyone here know if it will be able later to add additional ressources? like for example metal beside of minerals gas terrazine and custom |
| 19:00.51 | Reactorex | If unit does -> conditions or triggering unit = a (or) triggering unit = b (or) triggering unit = c |
| 19:01.14 | Reactorex | Then if all units in unit group (your three units) are dead, run trigger b |
| 19:01.41 | Reactorex | The "then if all units in unit group (your three units)" part was veeeery abbreviated. |
| 19:01.57 | Vortexx | i have a unit group for them already, i got that |
| 19:02.02 | Reactorex | Mmk. |
| 19:02.07 | Reactorex | Just check that all the units in the group are dead. |
| 19:02.12 | Reactorex | And make sure that the unit dying is one of the three. |
| 19:02.14 | Vortexx | got it |
| 19:02.21 | Reactorex | Conditons - or - your conditions |
| 19:02.25 | Reactorex | Conditions* |
| 19:02.27 | Reactorex | And there ya go. |
| 19:02.34 | Demonette | but not until jet or? |
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| 19:09.12 | RodOfNOD | u could fake additional resources with dialogs but the specs i saw said 3 resources |
| 19:09.13 | Demonette_ | Hmmm so i can't add new until jet... |
| 19:09.13 | Demonette_ | well i thought about custom ui |
| 19:09.13 | Reactorex | Custom UI isn't implausible. |
| 19:09.35 | Reactorex | You can hide the minerals/stuff field where it is right now and then put the minerals, vespene, food, and your stuff (or just what you want) into htere. |
| 19:09.38 | Reactorex | there* |
| 19:09.53 | Reactorex | Just use a dialog and hide the background/border. :) |
| 19:10.14 | RodOfNOD | exactly |
| 19:10.24 | RodOfNOD | wont show up on tooltips though for purchasing is only issue |
| 19:10.29 | Reactorex | Who uploaded the 4x4 transparent image? |
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| 19:11.35 | Coolflip | oh herro |
| 19:11.46 | Reactorex | Hai! |
| 19:11.53 | Coolflip | i need abilities |
| 19:11.54 | RickAx | Hey flipper |
| 19:11.59 | Coolflip | make some for me NAO |
| 19:11.59 | RickAx | What kind? |
| 19:12.04 | RickAx | Well |
| 19:12.23 | Coolflip | anything that looks awesome and does some sort of damage |
| 19:12.25 | Reactorex | RickA, why'd you change your name to RickAx? |
| 19:12.31 | Coolflip | i need idaes |
| 19:12.31 | Coolflip | lol |
| 19:12.35 | RickAx | Rick is taken, so I never get that |
| 19:12.39 | RickAx | I disconnect a lot |
| 19:12.47 | RickAx | And reconnect before the system notices I'm gone |
| 19:13.01 | Coolflip | hm |
| 19:13.03 | RickAx | So it gives me a third name. |
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| 19:13.36 | RickAx | Well coolflip, I completed the world's lamest meteor spell a while ago |
| 19:13.54 | Coolflip | hmmmm |
| 19:14.12 | Lyrrad | Cool - Implosion |
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| 19:14.17 | RickAx | I was working on an impale spell, but the actors pissed me off too much. |
| 19:14.26 | Demonette | i got kicked so often =( |
| 19:14.27 | Coolflip | I would use it if you would allow me |
| 19:14.43 | Coolflip | im just really fucking lazy |
| 19:14.52 | Coolflip | and it takes alot of work to make the spell wc3 style ontop of that |
| 19:15.03 | RickAx | I've never had much trouble |
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| 19:15.14 | RickAx | To give it fancy effects, yeah, but not to just get one to work. |
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| 19:16.28 | Coolflip | i guess im going to screw around with implosion, it sounds cool |
| 19:16.35 | Reactorex | Crap. |
| 19:16.39 | Reactorex | I closed the sc2mapster window. |
| 19:16.40 | Reactorex | >< |
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| 19:16.54 | DaveKap_ | sixen? |
| 19:16.58 | GardenOfAiuyr | lol have u guys seen this final fantasy mod? |
| 19:16.58 | GardenOfAiuyr | http://www.gardenofaiur.com/blog/final-fantasy-mod-for-starcraft-2-custom-maps/ |
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| 19:17.20 | sherard | does anyone us the m3 importer/exporter? |
| 19:17.28 | DaveKap_ | the one where you make an FF13 model for a contest? |
| 19:17.41 | sherard | It can be used for that |
| 19:17.47 | sherard | I am not participating in that though |
| 19:17.57 | Martul | ... |
| 19:17.58 | sherard | I am trying to make a space background |
| 19:17.59 | Martul | :( |
| 19:18.03 | DaveKap_ | haha wow |
| 19:18.04 | sherard | that rotates |
| 19:18.14 | sherard | with planets |
| 19:18.17 | DaveKap_ | neat vid |
| 19:18.20 | Martul | blizzard really pisses me off |
| 19:18.21 | Twiner | GardenOfAiuyr: thats pretty awesome |
| 19:18.34 | GardenOfAiuyr | Twiner: yah! thats what i was thinking |
| 19:18.41 | sherard | I used right now my own custom made tileset |
| 19:18.53 | sherard | to make a space background |
| 19:19.02 | Coolflip | sherard |
| 19:19.02 | Max_Damage | anyone knows the cheatcode to Art of Defence? |
| 19:19.05 | sherard | but if i can make planets rotate I think that would look cool |
| 19:19.06 | sherard | yeah |
| 19:19.10 | Coolflip | what size does the background need to be? |
| 19:19.25 | Coolflip | i have a perfect picture for one, but i dont know how to use it |
| 19:19.25 | Coolflip | lol |
| 19:19.34 | sherard | lol |
| 19:19.41 | sherard | do you have a link for th pic? |
| 19:19.53 | sherard | cause I am in a bind just learning how to use the m3 importer |
| 19:19.54 | Coolflip | i think i put it up |
| 19:19.55 | Coolflip | leme find it |
| 19:20.01 | sherard | and exporter |
| 19:20.14 | sherard | and well I cant find any m3 files? |
| 19:20.28 | Coolflip | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=nwngzamxz0y |
| 19:20.42 | Coolflip | i think its like 1600x900 now |
| 19:21.03 | Coolflip | but its all in photoshop, so i can edit the size and stuff |
| 19:22.09 | sherard | To be honest |
| 19:22.12 | sherard | I need to open up |
| 19:22.26 | sherard | one of the old m3 backgrounds first |
| 19:22.36 | sherard | this will help determine the size |
| 19:23.26 | fatal510 | good morning people |
| 19:23.28 | Coolflip | it needs to be in .m3 format? |
| 19:23.30 | fatal510 | or afternoon! |
| 19:23.31 | sherard | thats my problem cause I cant seem to find where the M3 files are stored. I know with wc3 you had to originally use an MPQ extractor |
| 19:23.32 | Coolflip | man thats a bummer |
| 19:23.35 | sherard | yes |
| 19:23.38 | Martul | hmmm, why the hell did blizzard hide the list of all natives for? WC3 had its in the mpq. But SC2 doesn't even have one in the mpqs |
| 19:23.41 | sherard | if you want it to be seen |
| 19:23.44 | Martul | what the hell |
| 19:23.55 | fatal510 | dang none of the same people from last night are here |
| 19:24.05 | Coolflip | ill look for it |
| 19:24.12 | Coolflip | i have a general idea |
| 19:24.25 | Coolflip | gone through every mpq doing texture mods and such |
| 19:24.33 | fatal510 | LOL Martul still going on about MPQ stuff? |
| 19:24.44 | Coolflip | oh god |
| 19:24.48 | Coolflip | i didnt even realise martul was here |
| 19:24.56 | Coolflip | didnt you ragequit when i prove you wrong? |
| 19:25.04 | fatal510 | i think he did! |
| 19:25.33 | Martul | first they prevent modders from overriding files in the mpq and now they hide the list of natives. WTF is wrong with blizzard? |
| 19:25.56 | sherard | doing textures is easy |
| 19:26.04 | sherard | i just save everything as a .tga file |
| 19:26.11 | sherard | and import those into the editor |
| 19:26.12 | RodOfNOD | what version plugin is good for the dds files for photoshop i found a nvidia one? |
| 19:26.24 | Coolflip | i already did all of my texture mods |
| 19:26.30 | sherard | you honestly dont need to put them in .dds files |
| 19:26.36 | sherard | the editor still knows what |
| 19:26.43 | sherard | .tga is |
| 19:26.43 | RodOfNOD | i want to alter the terrain |
| 19:26.51 | sherard | i did that with a .tga |
| 19:26.59 | sherard | i have a space background done that way |
| 19:27.12 | RodOfNOD | u talking to me sherard? |
| 19:27.18 | sherard | yeah |
| 19:27.21 | Martul | Blizzard is so damn stupid |
| 19:27.27 | RodOfNOD | how did u change the path of the terrain? |
| 19:27.47 | sherard | in the data editor |
| 19:27.51 | Coolflip | like where you can and cant walk? |
| 19:28.03 | Coolflip | the pathing tool |
| 19:28.13 | RodOfNOD | no i am talking about changing the art |
| 19:28.15 | sherard | pull up terrain textures |
| 19:28.38 | Martul | WTF is wrong with blizzard. |
| 19:28.41 | sherard | then change the texture setting to what you want |
| 19:28.56 | sherard | before that though you can just import a .tga file |
| 19:29.12 | sherard | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.29 | sherard | i made a space terain this way that works |
| 19:30.12 | RodOfNOD | i still want to edit the dds file first because i want to use a sc2 terrain and modify it so recommended dds plugin? |
| 19:30.32 | Coolflip | gimp-dds plugin |
| 19:30.36 | Coolflip | or photoshop-dds plugin |
| 19:30.38 | Coolflip | i use those |
| 19:30.39 | RodOfNOD | ty |
| 19:30.41 | RodOfNOD | there are many |
| 19:30.44 | RodOfNOD | which version did u use |
| 19:30.44 | sherard | it is |
| 19:30.48 | RodOfNOD | i used gimp and it dint work |
| 19:30.52 | Coolflip | i used photoshop |
| 19:30.54 | Coolflip | oh |
| 19:30.56 | Coolflip | :( |
| 19:30.56 | RodOfNOD | ok hwich dds |
| 19:30.57 | sherard | there are soem glitchs when units are out of range for .tga files |
| 19:30.59 | RodOfNOD | which one |
| 19:31.08 | Coolflip | any dds files really |
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| 19:31.19 | RodOfNOD | http://developer.nvidia.com/object/photoshop_dds_plugins.html |
| 19:31.20 | Coolflip | but you have to save tehm as drx 5 or whatever |
| 19:31.23 | RodOfNOD | ? |
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| 19:31.31 | sherard | i used that one and had problems with it yesterday |
| 19:31.32 | Coolflip | yea |
| 19:31.34 | Coolflip | thats it |
| 19:31.35 | sherard | that plugin |
| 19:31.38 | Coolflip | hmmmm |
| 19:31.45 | RodOfNOD | ok so which one |
| 19:31.47 | RodOfNOD | then please |
| 19:31.49 | sherard | It would not let me save the file as a .dds |
| 19:31.54 | RodOfNOD | great |
| 19:31.56 | sherard | thats why i went .tga |
| 19:31.58 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 19:32.05 | RodOfNOD | so u can read it but not write it |
| 19:32.06 | Coolflip | thats the one i use rodof |
| 19:32.14 | Coolflip | yes you can |
| 19:32.18 | Coolflip | i can atleast |
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| 19:32.27 | RodOfNOD | k trying |
| 19:35.08 | RickAx | So coolflip |
| 19:35.14 | RickAx | you should give me some ideas for abilities |
| 19:36.16 | RodOfNOD | do u mean for names of abilities or the way they look or what they do? |
| 19:36.35 | RickAx | What they do |
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| 19:37.36 | RodOfNOD | are these for heroes or what are they for a certain type of thing |
| 19:37.55 | RodOfNOD | i have found the best way is to group abilites by a certain theme |
| 19:38.09 | RodOfNOD | so for example you could have 4 spells one based on each season |
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| 19:38.17 | RodOfNOD | knowing the name helps know what it will then look like |
| 19:39.10 | RickAx | Huh? |
| 19:40.01 | RodOfNOD | maybe i didnt understand ur question can u be specific or give an exmaple |
| 19:40.21 | RickAx | I need ideas for ability effects |
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| 19:49.42 | Reves | Hey I trying to get an item to issue an order to a point/target, but don't see the field I need to chage. Anyone done this? |
| 19:50.43 | RickAx | Where's the problem |
| 19:51.09 | Reves | Nvm RickAx i found it |
| 19:56.37 | sherard | Does anyone know how to use the M3 3ds Max software? |
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| 19:58.21 | Martul | sherard: not many people can afford 3ds Max software, so i doubt anyone here knows |
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| 19:58.52 | Sci_ | hey guys, I need a quick help on something |
| 19:58.57 | RickAx | what |
| 19:59.38 | Sci_ | I'm playing around with abilities using triggers, and it's quite easy to trigger on them, and get targets, etc... but I need to trigger on the end of a behaviour |
| 20:00.19 | Sci_ | for example if I could get a trigger to fire when stimpack stops |
| 20:01.06 | RodOfNOD | sherard - thanks! What is the Normal Map and what is the Texture for Terrains. I see that if i replace the Texture with my new art it works but what is the normal used for |
| 20:01.09 | Sci_ | in the 'Unit uses ability' trigger event, there is are several selections (2 that say behavior), but none of them fire at the end of the stimpack |
| 20:02.10 | RodOfNOD | sherard- skizot is a pro at 3ds but idk if hes talking :"> |
| 20:03.21 | RickAx | post your exact trigger sci |
| 20:05.04 | GardenOfAiur | anyone know how i can get in touch with the designer of Nexus Wars? |
| 20:06.14 | Coolflip | add his name from the creater of the map |
| 20:06.16 | Coolflip | ? |
| 20:06.32 | Coolflip | i think you can add nick's now cant you? |
| 20:06.43 | Coolflip | and i love your backgrounds btw xD |
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| 20:08.08 | Sci_ | rickax> at the moment I'm just trying to get anything to happen at the end of a behaviour. My current test trigger is just 'Unit - Any unit uses marine stimpack at' type trigger |
| 20:08.32 | RickAx | Just copy the whole thing and paste it |
| 20:08.34 | Sci_ | but that doesn't ever trigger on the ned of the stimpack behaviour, but I can't see another trigger event that would work either |
| 20:09.47 | Sci_ | Untitled Trigger 002 2 Events Unit - Any Unit uses Marine - Use Stimpack at Generic1 - Any stage (Ignore shared abilities) Local Variables Conditions Actions UI - Display "Trigger activated." for (All players) to Subtitle area |
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| 20:10.34 | RickAx | So what doesn't work there |
| 20:11.13 | RickAx | Or rather |
| 20:11.16 | RickAx | When DOES it work? |
| 20:11.22 | Sci_ | I want to display "trigger activated' at the end of the stimpack effect. Say you stimpack a marine, when he slows back down to normal speed. |
| 20:11.32 | RickAx | When does that text display? |
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| 20:11.57 | sherard | Martul lol I agree with not many people being able to afford it, but doesnt anyone know how to get them from torrents. |
| 20:12.08 | Sci_ | that trigger will activate 7 times after starting the stimpack ability (different casting phases), but I can't find one that will trigger at the end of the behaviour |
| 20:12.28 | sherard | I appreciate the info rod |
| 20:12.36 | RickAx | Sci, go to the stimpack behavior |
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| 20:13.04 | RickAx | Better yet, go to the effects tab |
| 20:13.15 | Sci_ | k |
| 20:13.29 | RickAx | Create a new damage effect, it doesn't need anything but 0 in its damage field |
| 20:14.24 | Sci_ | ok |
| 20:15.04 | RickAx | Go to the stimpack behavior |
| 20:15.14 | RickAx | and add that effect as the final and expire effects |
| 20:15.51 | Twiner | ohm an |
| 20:15.58 | RickAx | ? |
| 20:15.59 | fatal510 | how do i view my trigger as Galaxy code? |
| 20:16.03 | Twiner | blizzard eliminated the "your a nooob because you're downloading the map" problem |
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| 20:16.09 | Sci_ | ahhh, ok, then in the 'unit takes damage' trigger event I can specify from that effect? |
| 20:16.15 | Helral | hey all |
| 20:16.15 | RickAx | Yup |
| 20:16.25 | RickAx | Now, you could have a trigger that just waits the duration |
| 20:16.43 | RickAx | But if you change that duration, you'd need to change it in the trigger too |
| 20:16.55 | RickAx | And this runs the trigger if you remove the behavior early too. |
| 20:17.04 | Sci_ | ya, I thought about that, but was also thinking about doing channelling stuff later, and didn't want to have all the checks required to try to do that with pure triggers |
| 20:17.23 | RickAx | channeling? |
| 20:18.05 | Sci_ | checking if the channelling type abilities, like the overlord create creep, that doesn't end till canceled or the unit moves/whatever |
| 20:19.16 | Sci_ | anyhow, don't have much more time, gotta get stuff ready for me and my wifes co-birthday party |
| 20:19.17 | RickAx | I think my effect covers that |
| 20:19.21 | RickAx | I'm not sure |
| 20:19.45 | Sci_ | ya, I gotta check, but I think it should if I add it as a final effect to a behaviour that is channeled |
| 20:19.52 | Sci_ | will test and play with it later |
| 20:19.58 | Sci_ | thanks rickax! |
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| 20:27.06 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/poker-defence/. Poker Defence. spores (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 20:28.37 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/urban-conflict/. Urban Conflict. QCMike (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
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| 20:34.50 | fatal510 | does triggering player return 0 for player 1 or 1? |
| 20:34.56 | Reactorex | 1 |
| 20:34.58 | Reactorex | 0 is Neutral |
| 20:35.23 | fatal510 | how do i view my trigger has GE code |
| 20:35.28 | Reactorex | Hm? |
| 20:35.31 | Martul | :( sucks that the location of the built-in inventory frames and buttons can't be moved |
| 20:35.35 | fatal510 | thought you could? |
| 20:35.39 | Martul | damn blizzard |
| 20:35.42 | Motive | Dont see why you can't. |
| 20:35.43 | Reactorex | Rephrase. |
| 20:35.43 | Martul | nope you can't |
| 20:35.47 | Motive | .SC2Layout files, edit them. |
| 20:35.48 | RodOfNOD | martul i bet they cant |
| 20:35.53 | RodOfNOD | can |
| 20:36.01 | Martul | Motive, you can't override files in the mpq |
| 20:36.11 | Motive | wait aren't you blayzed? |
| 20:36.15 | Reactorex | Yep. |
| 20:36.16 | fatal510 | someone kick this martul |
| 20:36.17 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/military-rank-icons/. Military Rank Icons. Bobby5589 (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 20:36.18 | Motive | oh god |
| 20:36.19 | Motive | LOL |
| 20:36.21 | fatal510 | he is still going on about MPQs |
| 20:36.24 | Motive | hahaha |
| 20:36.32 | Motive | this guy just never stops does he? |
| 20:37.01 | Reactorex | Usin' ChatZilla. |
| 20:37.11 | Hati | Martul: weird ... many ppl can |
| 20:37.18 | Martul | I've tried many times to override files in the mpq. Even Skizot tried. Its just not possible |
| 20:37.32 | fatal510 | so your not gonna mod the original game files? |
| 20:37.32 | Motive | I overwrite MapScript.galaxy all the time :) |
| 20:37.32 | fatal510 | damn |
| 20:37.39 | Motive | It's possible, just don't know how yet |
| 20:37.42 | RodOfNOD | anything is possible |
| 20:37.43 | fatal510 | damn blizzard for trying to protect their game |
| 20:37.53 | RodOfNOD | just have to accept the limitations of the possiblity |
| 20:38.05 | Reactorex | Fatal, are you looking for the galaxy code for your trigger? |
| 20:38.08 | fatal510 | yes |
| 20:38.09 | Reactorex | The way you phrased it was unclear. |
| 20:38.12 | fatal510 | sorry |
| 20:38.16 | fatal510 | i am special |
| 20:38.18 | Reactorex | Ctrl+F11, then ctrl+f and look for your trigger name. |
| 20:38.25 | Reactorex | You'll get to it really quickly. |
| 20:38.48 | Martul | If you think its possible to override files in the MPQ then prove it. (i know you won't because you know I'm right.) |
| 20:39.00 | Motive | martul |
| 20:39.01 | fatal510 | why would you want to? |
| 20:39.05 | Motive | you suck |
| 20:39.06 | Motive | LOL |
| 20:39.15 | Hati | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-localizer/ |
| 20:39.18 | Hati | proved |
| 20:39.19 | Reactorex | Motive has spoken. The trufax are here. |
| 20:39.39 | Martul | Hati, wrong. |
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| 20:39.58 | Martul | thats not overriding files in the MPQ |
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| 20:40.02 | Hati | it is |
| 20:40.06 | fatal510 | someone should make a galaxy intelliSense plugin |
| 20:40.31 | Martul | it only modifies the map |
| 20:40.34 | Motive | martul |
| 20:40.35 | Motive | everyone here |
| 20:40.38 | Motive | is better than you apparently |
| 20:40.39 | Motive | a |
| 20:40.45 | Motive | at understanding everything we're saying |
| 20:40.49 | Motive | the map file IS AN MPQ |
| 20:41.14 | Martul | I said MPQ as in Base.SC2Data or Base.SC2Assets |
| 20:41.22 | Martul | NOT THE MAP |
| 20:41.25 | ekcolnovkol | boom |
| 20:41.25 | ekcolnovkol | bap |
| 20:41.27 | ekcolnovkol | boom boom |
| 20:41.28 | ekcolnovkol | bap |
| 20:41.35 | Motive | the map is just the highest level of the MPQ tree |
| 20:41.35 | Motive | lol |
| 20:41.36 | ekcolnovkol | to the left |
| 20:41.38 | ekcolnovkol | to the right |
| 20:41.41 | Martul | if I was talking about the map I would have said map |
| 20:41.44 | Motive | Base -> Liberty -> LibertyMulti -> Map |
| 20:41.48 | Motive | Map supercedes them all. |
| 20:42.12 | RodOfNOD | anyone tested to see how long a map downloads from blizzard for a player the first time vs comparing to say an average players dl speed in wc3? |
| 20:42.24 | Motive | pretty sure it's faster from Battle.net |
| 20:42.30 | RodOfNOD | of course |
| 20:42.34 | Motive | maps are in the megabytes now and DLs take < 10 seconds |
| 20:42.37 | RodOfNOD | but im wondering if a 4mb file will be really long |
| 20:42.44 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 20:42.45 | Motive | LT is more than 4 MB iirc |
| 20:42.46 | Motive | so no |
| 20:43.03 | RodOfNOD | file size limit for maps? |
| 20:43.22 | Motive | 10MB for maps iirc |
| 20:43.25 | Motive | 20MB for mods |
| 20:43.28 | Motive | so 30 in total theoretically |
| 20:43.51 | Martul | its 20MB for all maps and mods on your account |
| 20:44.07 | Motive | buy a new account and publish the mod publically. |
| 20:44.15 | Motive | sucks but there's a way around the limits |
| 20:44.17 | Martul | so if you publish a map of 10 MB and a mod of 10 MB you are full |
| 20:44.46 | Martul | its a max of 10 MB for maps and mods |
| 20:44.58 | Reactorex | And if you're working in a group of 5 people, you have a 100MB limit. |
| 20:45.17 | Martul | its still 10MB per map/mod |
| 20:45.27 | Reactorex | Aaaaaaaaand..? |
| 20:45.30 | Hati | hmm |
| 20:45.40 | Reactorex | Doesn't make a difference if you integrate functions right. |
| 20:45.45 | Hati | gold price rising - wonder when my gold in PC comes worth more than the PC itself :P |
| 20:45.47 | Martul | and 20MB total per account |
| 20:45.49 | Motive | 10 MB repeated infinitely, coupled w/ map dependencies = theoretically infinite size |
| 20:45.59 | Motive | case closed, have a nice day |
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| 20:46.53 | Phatency | leading to servers of infinite mass and we all die. |
| 20:47.15 | Martul | funny, everyone sees that I am right that you can't override files in the MPQ since no one has tried to prove me wrong. |
| 20:47.22 | Motive | no martul |
| 20:47.24 | Motive | everyone knows you're wrong |
| 20:47.26 | Motive | LOL |
| 20:47.28 | Motive | that's the funny part |
| 20:47.43 | Martul | If I'm wrong then prove it |
| 20:47.48 | Motive | sc2 localizer |
| 20:47.55 | fatal510 | where are you from Martul? |
| 20:48.01 | Martul | that only modifies the map |
| 20:48.03 | Motive | custom single player AI that non-beta people use as a crack |
| 20:48.06 | Reactorex | I'm guessing America, fatal510. |
| 20:48.09 | Ignorance | Martul, I don't think you understand how logic works. |
| 20:48.11 | Motive | Lol |
| 20:48.13 | Motive | he's from Texas |
| 20:48.15 | Motive | Irvine, TX |
| 20:48.23 | Reactorex | That explains a lot. |
| 20:48.28 | Motive | For all we know, he's not even American. |
| 20:48.31 | fatal510 | im not sure if i like what your saying react |
| 20:48.34 | fatal510 | im from america :( |
| 20:48.40 | Motive | I lived in Texas once. |
| 20:48.40 | Motive | :P |
| 20:48.48 | RickAx | So Reactor, I noticed I have a new fan. |
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| 20:49.01 | Martul | I'm talking about importing say a SC2Layout and having it override the one in Base.SC2Data. |
| 20:49.01 | Reactorex | Hm? |
| 20:49.10 | ekcolnovkol | ? |
| 20:49.13 | Martul | not overriding a map mpq files |
| 20:49.13 | RickAx | What was that impersonation stuff about? |
| 20:49.18 | ekcolnovkol | i'm confus |
| 20:49.18 | Martul | file* |
| 20:49.19 | Ignorance | We're the sort of people who give a shit if you don't know what you're talking about, so long as it doesn't affect us or the community at large. If you have something interesting to say, say it, but assuming something is impossible because either nobody knows or because nobody will say anything is downright foolish. |
| 20:49.28 | Reactorex | I was seeing why you couldn't change to the name :P |
| 20:49.33 | RickAx | I can. |
| 20:49.36 | fatal510 | who wants to help me design a trigger |
| 20:49.38 | RickAx | Sure |
| 20:49.39 | Ignorance | <---the ultimate hater |
| 20:49.54 | Ignorance | fatal510, what trigger? |
| 20:50.11 | fatal510 | alright |
| 20:50.20 | Motive | we're going to play a new game, everyone. |
| 20:50.32 | Motive | if martul asks for help, we're going to give him a complicated answer that he doesn't know how to follow. |
| 20:50.56 | Martul | Since no one has tried to even prove me wrong then I know I'm right |
| 20:51.00 | Reactorex | Motive, that's easy. |
| 20:51.14 | Reactorex | Simple answers still qualify by that point. |
| 20:51.41 | Ignorance | Martul, that's the worst line of reasoning I've heard in weeks. |
| 20:51.59 | fatal510 | i got a map with 7 lanes. each player has a lane. when a player buys a unit it appears in the purchased region then a trigger is run and it determines which lane to send the unit to. the trigger should send the unit to the next lane to the right of the player buying the unit but if that next player is defeated skip that lane and send to the next |
| 20:52.02 | Ignorance | You could still be wrong, since wrong-ness is independent of people trying to prove you wrong. |
| 20:52.08 | ekcolnovkol | uh, silly question |
| 20:52.13 | Motive | guys I think the eiffel tower is in germany |
| 20:52.15 | Motive | PROVE ME WRONG. |
| 20:52.15 | ekcolnovkol | how do i write to xml files for a map |
| 20:52.19 | fatal510 | so if the game only has player 1 and 4 i need it to skip lanes 2-3 and send to 4 |
| 20:52.20 | Martul | yall think you're right but have never actually tried to override files in the mpqs |
| 20:52.23 | ekcolnovkol | :( |
| 20:52.34 | Motive | well no one's proving me wrong, must be right. :] |
| 20:52.49 | Motive | you heard it here first, the eiffel tower is in germany. |
| 20:53.01 | Martul | I have actually tried to override files in the mpqs and know it can't be done. |
| 20:53.26 | Motive | dude I've been to france |
| 20:53.28 | Motive | never seen that tower |
| 20:53.33 | Motive | i swear it's in fucking germany |
| 20:53.48 | Motive | none of you have tried to see it |
| 20:53.49 | Motive | i must be right |
| 20:53.51 | fatal510 | anyone wanna help me with my trigger ? |
| 20:54.09 | Ignorance | OP, you should make a function |
| 20:54.14 | Ignorance | called NextPlayer |
| 20:54.22 | Ignorance | if player = lastplayer, return 0 |
| 20:54.26 | Ignorance | else return player + 1 |
| 20:54.42 | Ignorance | where lastplayer is the last player, as defined by Active Playes |
| 20:54.44 | Reves | Anyone have any problems getting items to target the ground? |
| 20:54.45 | Ignorance | Players* |
| 20:55.01 | Motive | if player >= last player* |
| 20:55.01 | Ignorance | Here's how I'd do it |
| 20:55.01 | fatal510 | uh |
| 20:55.05 | Motive | in case some faggot leaves |
| 20:55.06 | Motive | Lol |
| 20:55.09 | Ignorance | oh, actually |
| 20:55.11 | Ignorance | you could us |
| 20:55.16 | Ignorance | active players |
| 20:55.22 | Ignorance | player 1 of active players |
| 20:55.23 | Ignorance | player 2 |
| 20:55.24 | Ignorance | etc. |
| 20:55.25 | Martul | like Motive |
| 20:55.32 | Motive | yeah |
| 20:55.45 | Martul | Motive is one of those faggots |
| 20:55.50 | Ignorance | if player # = player (number of players in active players) of active players |
| 20:56.00 | Ignorance | then return player 1 of active players |
| 20:56.01 | fatal510 | active players |
| 20:56.02 | Ignorance | Get it? |
| 20:56.03 | fatal510 | where is that! |
| 20:56.05 | fatal510 | no |
| 20:56.06 | fatal510 | im lost |
| 20:56.06 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/storm-base/. Storm the Base!. Thalassicus (Manager/Author), Zerahan01 (Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 20:56.06 | Ignorance | presets |
| 20:56.16 | Ignorance | for player groupsl |
| 20:56.39 | Ignorance | I'll just write it for you and send you the map in a PM |
| 20:56.51 | fatal510 | orrrr want me to send you my map |
| 20:56.55 | Ignorance | no |
| 20:56.58 | fatal510 | :9 |
| 20:56.59 | fatal510 | :( |
| 20:57.03 | Ignorance | you can copy paste the trigger :P |
| 20:57.24 | Ignorance | something you should know, so you can isolate certain things, i.e. certain data editing |
| 20:57.26 | Reactorex | It's almost cute how Martul is getting so riled up. |
| 20:57.33 | Ignorance | before you modify the map itself |
| 20:57.40 | Ignorance | click Window |
| 20:57.42 | Motive | not cute |
| 20:57.42 | fatal510 | well if you say got 3 players in the game and player 2 leaves |
| 20:57.43 | Motive | just funny. |
| 20:57.45 | Ignorance | on the menu |
| 20:57.49 | Ignorance | and you can go between maps |
| 20:57.51 | Ignorance | on the fly |
| 20:57.54 | Motive | like when you see a rich bratty kid get knocked down a notch |
| 20:57.56 | Martul | if you think files in the MPQs can be overridden then prove it. |
| 20:57.59 | fatal510 | i still want player 1 to send to 2 till he loses his lives regardless if he left or not |
| 20:58.05 | fatal510 | then set a defeat bool to true |
| 20:58.06 | Martul | Until then I am right |
| 20:58.07 | Ignorance | and can copy past (but not cut paste) between maps |
| 20:58.08 | fatal510 | then move on to 3 |
| 20:58.09 | Reactorex | Yeah! Like that, Motive. :) |
| 20:58.11 | Motive | :D |
| 20:58.14 | Ignorance | ah |
| 20:58.20 | Ignorance | I can take care of that too. |
| 20:58.26 | fatal510 | who cares about overriding files in the mpq? |
| 20:58.34 | Ignorance | lol you can do that |
| 20:58.42 | Ignorance | there's so many different mods based on that |
| 20:58.44 | Ignorance | frozen zreg |
| 20:58.45 | Ignorance | zerg* |
| 21:00.16 | Martul | if you think files in the MPQs can be overridden then prove it. Until then I am right |
| 21:00.27 | RickAx | Hey guys, did you know that the Eiffel Tower is contained entirely inside of my house? |
| 21:00.50 | Lyrrad | cool, can we come visit? |
| 21:01.00 | RickAx | Sure |
| 21:01.07 | Lyrrad | woohoo |
| 21:01.12 | Reactorex | pats Martul. |
| 21:01.28 | RodOfNOD | i really dont get why blizard cant figure out how to REFRESH their tgas in the editor if u import one :P |
| 21:02.11 | Lyrrad | Rod - Don't forgetthis is the beta editor, it could(hopefully) be fixed in the release |
| 21:02.22 | Reactorex | There, there- poor baby. :) It'll all be better soon, just close your eyes. |
| 21:02.24 | RodOfNOD | highly doubt it :P |
| 21:02.34 | RodOfNOD | waaaaaaaaaa |
| 21:02.44 | RodOfNOD | spent 10 years of it with wc3 so.... |
| 21:02.45 | Reactorex | That wasn't at you, Rod. xD |
| 21:02.46 | Motive | MARTUUUUUUUUL |
| 21:02.46 | RodOfNOD | gets a little old |
| 21:02.48 | Motive | i challenge you |
| 21:02.50 | Motive | to a triggering contest |
| 21:02.54 | RodOfNOD | but im still crying :P |
| 21:02.56 | Motive | you must make a pink elephant fly across the screen |
| 21:02.57 | Motive | t |
| 21:03.01 | Motive | then explode into a thousand uberlisks |
| 21:03.08 | Motive | and have a war with endless waves of marines |
| 21:03.09 | Motive | begin now. |
| 21:03.38 | Lyrrad | Other then the pink elephant, thats easy |
| 21:03.47 | fatal510 | hows it going Ignorance |
| 21:03.47 | Motive | yeah xD |
| 21:03.48 | Reactorex | The pink elephant's easy, too. >_> |
| 21:03.53 | Martul | if you think files in the MPQs can be overridden then prove it. Until then I am right |
| 21:03.59 | Motive | well |
| 21:04.02 | Reactorex | Too bad Martul's incapable. |
| 21:04.03 | Motive | I think they CAN be overriden |
| 21:04.04 | Motive | prove me WRONG |
| 21:04.05 | Motive | un |
| 21:04.07 | Motive | until then I am right |
| 21:04.08 | Motive | faggot |
| 21:04.09 | Motive | :D |
| 21:04.11 | fatal510 | someone needs to just mute martul |
| 21:04.23 | Lyrrad | WEll I am not a modeller, and don't have the software to do it |
| 21:04.39 | Martul | I've already tried and no matter what path you use (even no path) it doesn't override |
| 21:04.43 | Lyrrad | so if someone supplied the pink elephant, it would be easy |
| 21:04.48 | ekcolnovkol | hey reactorex |
| 21:04.52 | RodOfNOD | does anyone have a listfile for the sc2 maps? |
| 21:05.04 | ekcolnovkol | how do i pull .sc2map files apart :< |
| 21:05.17 | Reactorex | Open it in an MPQ editor. |
| 21:05.17 | RodOfNOD | depends on what u mean by pull apart |
| 21:05.32 | ekcolnovkol | what's an mpq editor, i've only been using GE |
| 21:05.45 | Reactorex | I'm using Ladik's MPQ Editor to do my work. |
| 21:05.57 | ekcolnovkol | k |
| 21:06.01 | Reactorex | It was just the first one I saw. |
| 21:06.49 | RodOfNOD | http://shadowflare.samods.org/downloads/WinMPQ.html |
| 21:06.56 | RodOfNOD | oldschool < |
| 21:07.01 | Motive | WinMPQ doesn't work with sc2 archives does it? |
| 21:07.05 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 21:07.07 | Bemoliph- | It does |
| 21:07.08 | Reactorex | Dunno. |
| 21:07.10 | RodOfNOD | using it now |
| 21:07.16 | Motive | I guess it does now |
| 21:07.18 | Motive | didn't used to |
| 21:07.22 | RodOfNOD | so i need a list file |
| 21:07.26 | Bemoliph- | The problem with (older versions?) of WinMPQ is that they weren't programmed to open >2 GB MPQs |
| 21:07.28 | RodOfNOD | anyone? |
| 21:07.41 | Bemoliph- | Which only started occurring around the time of patch 1.11 in WoW |
| 21:07.44 | Motive | no there's a minor bug that prevents them from opening SC2 MPQs, too |
| 21:07.48 | Bemoliph- | At least to the most part |
| 21:07.54 | Bemoliph- | For* |
| 21:07.58 | RodOfNOD | ive opened up the big ones.... |
| 21:08.02 | RodOfNOD | with 1.62 even |
| 21:08.07 | Motive | there was anyways |
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| 21:08.19 | Motive | there was an update to the MPQ library that winMPQ uses to fix it |
| 21:08.22 | Bemoliph- | It might have been fixed since |
| 21:08.23 | RodOfNOD | listfile come on someone must have made one for the maps |
| 21:08.45 | Bemoliph- | It was a really long time ago that I am remembering this from, and also a really long time ago that I got my version of WinMPQ |
| 21:08.56 | RodOfNOD | lol nm |
| 21:09.01 | RodOfNOD | appears they have fixed it for me |
| 21:09.03 | Bemoliph- | Wasn't sure if they updated |
| 21:09.08 | RodOfNOD | i hadnt looked in like 2 weeks |
| 21:09.13 | RodOfNOD | yea bliz |
| 21:09.34 | Martul | I've already tried and no matter what path you use (even no path) it doesn't override |
| 21:09.36 | Martul | if you think files in the MPQs can be overridden then prove it. Until then I am right |
| 21:09.47 | Bemoliph- | I could prove it if you really, really want me to |
| 21:09.55 | Bemoliph- | But I don't think you'll appreciate the means of proof |
| 21:10.21 | Martul | Since no one will I am gonna be always right |
| 21:10.23 | RodOfNOD | what will u give us if we do prove u wrong |
| 21:10.34 | RodOfNOD | im talking cash now |
| 21:10.38 | RodOfNOD | how much on paypal |
| 21:11.13 | Martul | If you somehow manage to prove me wrong then I'll shut up about the subject. |
| 21:12.28 | Martul | But we all know I'm right. which is why no one tries to prove me wrong. |
| 21:12.36 | fatal510 | STFU |
| 21:12.39 | fatal510 | no one fucking cares |
| 21:12.49 | Martul | No Thanks |
| 21:13.03 | Lyrrad | fatal - don't respond |
| 21:13.11 | fatal510 | hes trolling way to hard |
| 21:13.14 | Ignorance | Martul, stop being a dumbshit. No one here knows or cares about how to do it. |
| 21:13.21 | Martul | if you think files in the MPQs can be overridden then prove it. Until then I am right |
| 21:13.25 | Bemoliph- | I know how to do it =P |
| 21:13.27 | Ignorance | There IS someone who knows. He's just not here. Go ask on sc2mapster.com |
| 21:13.45 | Ignorance | You heard him, Martul. Go PM him instead. |
| 21:13.45 | Martul | Forums are too slow |
| 21:13.55 | Ignorance | fatal510, your nextplayer function: |
| 21:13.55 | Ignorance | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5848688/nextplayer.SC2Map |
| 21:14.04 | fatal510 | i saw the pm |
| 21:14.20 | Ignorance | I put it out here so anyone else who wants it could take it. >_> |
| 21:14.31 | Ignorance | The stuff I make for other people is generally open source. |
| 21:16.47 | fatal510 | ignorance ! |
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| 21:20.21 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 21:20.23 | RodOfNOD | k do i took a map i made in wc3, imported the terrain which worked bt the water didnt import i have no cliffs i just made water by making entier map with water and then raising land... any ideas on how to easily get tehw ater back? |
| 21:20.24 | RodOfNOD | hi |
| 21:22.22 | Vortexx | do you use the attached to region trigger to refer to buildings in a region? |
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| 21:25.42 | Reactorex | Awh, Motive just left. |
| 21:25.46 | Reactorex | I had two screenies for him. |
| 21:27.25 | RodOfNOD | get it working? |
| 21:27.50 | Reactorex | Game engine. |
| 21:27.57 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 21:28.35 | Reactorex | We were each working on RP maps and didn't know that the other one was working on one. |
| 21:28.43 | Reactorex | Excuse me, correcting myself- |
| 21:29.03 | Reactorex | I'm working on an RP map, he's working on an RP library and a main map to go with it (although the library may be used in any other map) |
| 21:29.15 | RodOfNOD | ah |
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| 21:29.26 | Reactorex | I got a screenie from in-game on my engine. |
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| 21:29.36 | Reactorex | Something that was veeeery easy and veeeery quick to do. |
| 21:29.41 | Reactorex | And still looks nice. :) |
| 21:29.52 | RodOfNOD | damn adding back in water doesnt appear to work |
| 21:30.25 | Werepenguin | Arghhh, has anyone gotten the "Completed at unit" requirement to work? :) |
| 21:30.54 | Werepenguin | I'm SO close to throwing out my monitor through a window |
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| 21:31.24 | Reactorex | Boom! thunder. |
| 21:31.24 | Reactorex | :o |
| 21:31.34 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 21:31.36 | Reactorex | Looooud. |
| 21:33.30 | Clord | lol have very known map and it not need even bumbing to reach first page eventually |
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| 21:38.03 | TheLaughingMan | Wait what? |
| 21:38.38 | TheLaughingMan | How come someone posted that same video tutorial as me with the exact same steps? And even after I posted it |
| 21:39.14 | RickAx | Were: Yes, I have. |
| 21:39.26 | RickAx | But you can't see this, because you don't have a monitor. |
| 21:45.03 | Reactorex | Which one, TLM? |
| 21:45.26 | Werepenguin | hah, Rick, haven't done it just yet :) |
| 21:45.31 | TheLaughingMan | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/1854-how-to-import-custom-icons-into-starcraft-2/ |
| 21:45.57 | TheLaughingMan | He even uses the same arbitrary size I use for custom icons |
| 21:46.12 | Azu | http://i46.tinypic.com/fpcn7c.png lols |
| 21:46.41 | TheLaughingMan | And even gives the wrong excuse for using 76x76 |
| 21:47.09 | TheLaughingMan | "This is the normal size that SC2 Icons use", and the normal size they use it 64x64 |
| 21:47.23 | TheLaughingMan | or even 32x32 for some |
| 21:48.10 | Werepenguin | RickAx, for what purpose did you use the requirement? |
| 21:50.34 | RickAx | Nevermind, I've only done Count Unit and Queued or Better |
| 21:50.50 | RickAx | What're you trying to do? |
| 21:50.52 | TheLaughingMan | Blah |
| 21:52.01 | fatal510 | GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
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| 21:52.36 | wOlfLinG | Hai guyz :) |
| 21:52.38 | fatal510 | wtb 1on1 help with a pro trigger maker |
| 21:52.57 | wOlfLinG | Im a pro data editor (sorta) |
| 21:52.57 | RickAx | wtb? |
| 21:53.02 | TheLaughingMan | fatal510, $50 |
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| 21:53.15 | fatal510 | to expensive |
| 21:53.17 | Werepenguin | RickAx, I wanna do upgrades that upgrade only the unit that researches the upgrade |
| 21:53.18 | TheLaughingMan | XD |
| 21:53.25 | TheLaughingMan | What do you need help with? |
| 21:53.56 | TheLaughingMan | Werepenguin, Look at the Learn Ability |
| 21:53.58 | RickAx | Upgrades are global, I think you're better off using buffs. |
| 21:54.42 | TheLaughingMan | You can do a Learn Ability and make the upgrades actually be abilities |
| 21:54.46 | fatal510 | i need to switch irc clients |
| 21:54.50 | Werepenguin | ah |
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| 21:58.07 | Vortexx | hey everybody, I just finished my campaign...mostly |
| 21:58.18 | Vortexx | give it a try: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/assault-suchuka-mountain/ |
| 21:58.56 | TheLaughingMan | Vortexx, you needs a better AI |
| 21:59.32 | Vortexx | like what |
| 21:59.35 | Fatal510 | can i PM you TheLaughingMan |
| 21:59.50 | TheLaughingMan | An AI that doesn't cheat |
| 21:59.56 | TheLaughingMan | Fatal510, of course |
| 22:00.14 | Vortexx | hopefully not like what you put together...that's insane |
| 22:00.25 | Vortexx | these are my first maps here >.< |
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| 22:00.38 | Ignorance|Away | Anyone want to play a game of sentry scramble? |
| 22:00.46 | Ignorance|Away | I've just added some new modes. |
| 22:01.10 | TheLaughingMan | Vortexx, My AI isn't that insane |
| 22:01.13 | Vortexx | i looked at your deal laughingman, and that's like sandscrit to me |
| 22:01.32 | wOlfLinG | How do i make medivac heals stack? |
| 22:02.25 | rrowland | Hey TLM, you know how to make the AI send a scout? |
| 22:02.48 | rrowland | I thought I had it working a couple days ago but I've been trying for a while to get it working again and I can't figure it out |
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| 22:03.11 | TheLaughingMan | I have looked into it rrowland |
| 22:03.13 | rrowland | I've set all the flags, run all the functions, set all the settings |
| 22:03.27 | TheLaughingMan | You need to see the currect flags |
| 22:04.06 | TheLaughingMan | AISetFlag(player, e_flagsScouting, true); |
| 22:04.16 | rrowland | Yeah that seems to have no effect |
| 22:04.17 | TheLaughingMan | However you also need to tell the AI what unit to use |
| 22:04.37 | TheLaughingMan | the Melee AI automagically does this, but campaign ais don't have it in |
| 22:05.10 | rrowland | Well my AI is implemented as difficulty level 6 |
| 22:05.13 | rrowland | Of the melee AI |
| 22:05.23 | rrowland | So I don't see why it wouldn't work |
| 22:05.28 | wOlfLinG | How do i make medivac heals stack? |
| 22:05.29 | Ignorance | this is strange...can't open my game to the public |
| 22:05.41 | Ignorance | despite that I played public games of it in an earlier version |
| 22:06.09 | Ignorance | game has to be unprotected to be hostable? |
| 22:06.29 | TheLaughingMan | AIGrabUnit(player, c_TU_Medivac, c_prioScout, null); |
| 22:07.06 | rrowland | Doesn't that function return the handle of a unit? |
| 22:07.22 | rrowland | I must have misunderstood its purpose, if it does something else |
| 22:07.29 | Ignorance | Has anyone actually hosted a protected map successfully and it can be opened to the public in a game? |
| 22:07.43 | rrowland | Yes ignorance it has to be unprotected |
| 22:07.49 | Ignorance | ugh |
| 22:07.50 | Ignorance | :( |
| 22:08.23 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/battlestar/. BattleStar. frakc (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
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| 22:09.47 | rrowland | Yeah TLM there's already a function set up called AIGetScoutProt |
| 22:09.58 | rrowland | They will return the handle of a unit to scout with |
| 22:10.03 | rrowland | But they don't actually make it scout |
| 22:12.11 | Lyrrad | So I killed a guy in DNA wars Beta, and I was told I was annoying |
| 22:13.16 | rrowland | And I can set my scouting flags to true all day and it doesn't change anything |
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| 22:15.03 | rrowland | Oh okay |
| 22:15.05 | rrowland | It scouted |
| 22:15.10 | rrowland | But it did it when it felt like it |
| 22:15.31 | TheLaughingMan | Timings |
| 22:15.39 | rrowland | I've set them to like |
| 22:15.40 | rrowland | 1 |
| 22:15.41 | rrowland | 0 |
| 22:15.42 | rrowland | Etc |
| 22:15.46 | rrowland | Doesn't change when it scouts |
| 22:16.03 | rrowland | Also it peeks into the base and runs away |
| 22:16.18 | rrowland | If I build my spawning pool and roach warren behind my minerals it won't even see it |
| 22:16.20 | Lyrrad | why would it change when it scouts? |
| 22:16.57 | Lyrrad | rrow, perhaps have it scout all the way to the minerals? |
| 22:17.07 | rrowland | There's no option for that |
| 22:17.16 | rrowland | I'm probably going to have to write my own scouting functions |
| 22:17.18 | rrowland | And that annoys me |
| 22:17.22 | TheLaughingMan | AISetFlag(player, e_flagsScouting, true); AISetNumScouts (player, 1); AISetScoutTimes (player, 100, 100, 100, 100); AIScout (player); |
| 22:18.56 | rrowland | Cool story |
| 22:19.07 | rrowland | AISetScoutTimes (player, 0, 0, 0, 0); |
| 22:19.13 | rrowland | Still sends it out at the same time |
| 22:19.22 | TheLaughingMan | I don't know |
| 22:20.00 | rrowland | And it's like |
| 22:20.04 | rrowland | As soon as it sees my hatcheries |
| 22:20.07 | rrowland | It runs away |
| 22:20.12 | rrowland | And doesn't look around the base |
| 22:20.34 | TheLaughingMan | it seems like it is designed to scout till it see your starting locationg point and return |
| 22:21.02 | rrowland | Mine's jumping between the starting location and a xel naga watch tower |
| 22:21.05 | rrowland | and going back and forth |
| 22:22.36 | TheLaughingMan | Maybe it's how much time it spends scouting the locations |
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| 22:22.50 | TheLaughingMan | As I said, I have no freaking clue |
| 22:22.51 | rrowland | Changed it to 100 |
| 22:22.53 | rrowland | Same thing though |
| 22:23.07 | Reactorex | Is it specified in seconds? |
| 22:23.20 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 22:23.23 | wOlfLinG | Woot! I have my shield battery working :). Just need to do the same for my healing tower now |
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| 22:23.32 | TheLaughingMan | AIGetNextScoutLoc try looking at this |
| 22:23.51 | Azu | omg best chapter name ever |
| 22:23.51 | Azu | http://i47.tinypic.com/15wctcn.png |
| 22:23.52 | rrowland | That just returns the location of the next scout |
| 22:23.57 | wOlfLinG | trouble is, it doesnt auto-cast :/ |
| 22:23.58 | rrowland | As the name would suggest |
| 22:23.59 | rrowland | :P |
| 22:24.12 | TheLaughingMan | rrowland, I have no idea. I don't even have working scouting |
| 22:24.18 | rrowland | ungh |
| 22:24.23 | rrowland | I'm gonna just have to write my own |
| 22:24.28 | TheLaughingMan | since the attack waves are messed up |
| 22:24.39 | rrowland | The attack waves work for me |
| 22:24.41 | TheLaughingMan | If you send an attack wave towards a player it automagically knows where they are |
| 22:24.51 | rrowland | Ah |
| 22:24.59 | rrowland | I dunno I've only tested in a 2 player map |
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| 22:25.29 | rrowland | I think I'm going to implement scouting as part of my custom AI cycle |
| 22:25.35 | rrowland | Build units based on what units I know the enemy has |
| 22:25.41 | TheLaughingMan | I have played on a 4 player map and the blizzard AI doesn't scout |
| 22:25.45 | rrowland | But if the last time I updated that info gets too old / outdated |
| 22:25.49 | rrowland | Send a scout |
| 22:25.53 | heysparky | I cloned my Hive Mother off of the Hive, but Ultralisks and other 'Requires Hive' techs don't acknowledge the Hive Mother -- where do I fix this? |
| 22:26.10 | wOlfLinG | Btw, my TD will have 3 kinds of heros: Support, defence and offence. I need ideas for towers for each kind. |
| 22:26.17 | Werepenguin | Ok, is there any tutorial that deals with the Learn ability? |
| 22:26.35 | Reactorex | Data Editor, go to requirements, change it from Hive to Hive Mother for requirement. |
| 22:26.52 | Reactorex | They're in units, I htink. |
| 22:27.04 | heysparky | Thanks Reactor |
| 22:27.08 | wOlfLinG | Reactorex, that will only work if the hive is removed (or at least the units wont reconise the hive now) |
| 22:27.18 | heysparky | I'll add a requirment |
| 22:27.29 | heysparky | or, figure that out |
| 22:28.17 | malu05 | Hey guys |
| 22:28.39 | rrowland | Hi |
| 22:28.56 | Bemoliph- | Hi =P |
| 22:29.04 | rrowland | You gonna give the name of that function, or a dumped file list any time soon? |
| 22:29.06 | wOlfLinG | How do i change a mover from ground to fly? |
| 22:29.12 | rrowland | dumped function list* |
| 22:29.30 | Reactorex | wolfling, going into the button for it and changing the requirement there doesn't work? |
| 22:29.32 | heysparky | Wolfling, that's in the actor for the unit, I believe |
| 22:29.33 | TheLaughingMan | rrowland, you have to just fool around with it |
| 22:29.37 | malu05 | can't find it... |
| 22:29.46 | malu05 | was looking for it.. (the map) |
| 22:29.55 | Reactorex | Well, command card. |
| 22:29.56 | rrowland | Why don't you open up your map and find it lol |
| 22:30.09 | rrowland | Or just get a dump and post the strings on pastebin or something |
| 22:30.12 | malu05 | "(the map)" |
| 22:30.42 | malu05 | i am going to do that |
| 22:31.01 | wOlfLinG | Reactorex, it will work, but the hive then wont be recognised as the tech needed. Unless you can add an OR requirement |
| 22:32.33 | rrowland | It's weird TLM |
| 22:32.40 | rrowland | It will scout crappily for a certain amount of time |
| 22:32.47 | rrowland | Then it will go back to base |
| 22:32.49 | wOlfLinG | heysparky, atm the unit doesnt have an actor (just right clicked > add new object) |
| 22:32.52 | rrowland | Then it will come out and scout all expos |
| 22:33.05 | rrowland | Then it will finally go in and scout around the minerals |
| 22:33.09 | rrowland | Like 6 minutes into the game |
| 22:33.25 | heysparky | To give it a visual representation (and a mover) it'll need an actor. |
| 22:33.54 | heysparky | And that actor will need to be linked to the unit you created (there's a field at the top called... um... token, or something) |
| 22:33.59 | wOlfLinG | Hmm... so does the default Movers -> Ground not do anything? |
| 22:34.18 | heysparky | It's also possible I'm wrong :) |
| 22:34.31 | wOlfLinG | It was defaulted to that when i created a new unit, and i cant change it |
| 22:34.35 | heysparky | oh jeeze |
| 22:34.39 | heysparky | yeah |
| 22:34.41 | heysparky | it's on the unit |
| 22:34.45 | heysparky | my bad |
| 22:34.49 | wOlfLinG | I think i remember seeing a 'Moement plane' so ill see if thats what matters |
| 22:34.55 | wOlfLinG | movement* |
| 22:35.01 | heysparky | is your unit not moving? |
| 22:35.36 | wOlfLinG | its moving wierdly |
| 22:35.54 | heysparky | like? |
| 22:36.17 | wOlfLinG | Well... just looks wierd for a brood lord actor |
| 22:36.23 | wOlfLinG | hold on, just testing it again |
| 22:37.25 | malu05 | Anyone on EU that have time to test some FPS Deathmatch? |
| 22:38.17 | heysparky | I picked up a cool trick from Bifuu for making units that do stuff that other units do - you give the unit you're creating an editor prefix that will make it sort alphabetically adjacent to the unit whose traits you're copying |
| 22:38.35 | heysparky | and then you can easily switch between them and compare the settings |
| 22:39.54 | wOlfLinG | ok, scrap that: They arnt moving and are half embedded into the ground. |
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| 22:40.52 | heysparky | ah |
| 22:40.55 | heysparky | they need a height |
| 22:41.07 | heysparky | ui - height or something like that |
| 22:41.20 | heysparky | and will need an acceleration and a speed |
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| 22:41.23 | heysparky | both |
| 22:41.29 | Daara | so i guess i can set the amount of teams via game variants |
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| 22:41.40 | Daara | whenever i set it to 2 teams i get a corrupt header |
| 22:41.51 | wOlfLinG | yeah. Ive given them a hieght now. They had acceleration and speed |
| 22:42.06 | Hati | someone knows if VS2010 has a sync option for C++ classes (header to cpp file ) ? |
| 22:42.40 | WhiskeeGX | is there a way to compare texts? (==, !=) |
| 22:42.52 | Hati | == is |
| 22:42.55 | Hati | for strings |
| 22:43.20 | Hati | Text type there is not. or you would have to get the External first |
| 22:43.27 | wOlfLinG | Right, they aren't embedded in the ground now, but still cant move |
| 22:43.29 | Hati | where you would have to crack the encryption used |
| 22:43.34 | WhiskeeGX | i see |
| 22:43.40 | ekcolnovkol | woot i figured out heroes 100% |
| 22:43.43 | ekcolnovkol | gives himself props |
| 22:44.13 | Hati | throws cookie at ekcolnovkol |
| 22:44.34 | ekcolnovkol | lol cookies |
| 22:44.35 | WhiskeeGX | guess i can compare strings and then convert them to texts later then |
| 22:44.41 | ekcolnovkol | i made a cookie script as my first script ever |
| 22:44.44 | ekcolnovkol | for irc |
| 22:44.56 | ekcolnovkol | you throw cookies at me and i keep score |
| 22:44.57 | ekcolnovkol | o.O |
| 22:46.24 | wOlfLinG | O_o Im an idiot. I haven't given my brood lord a move ability yet |
| 22:46.30 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 22:47.16 | heysparky | oh, duh, sorry |
| 22:47.18 | heysparky | I knew that |
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| 22:49.37 | wOlfLinG | So i need ideas for offensive buildings (eg lazer turrets etc) |
| 22:50.23 | Dustin| | Bahhhhh |
| 22:50.30 | Dustin| | Fuck this popularity system bullshit |
| 22:50.47 | WhiskeeGX | don't tell me |
| 22:50.53 | WhiskeeGX | I had to spam create game 70 times to test my map |
| 22:51.02 | WhiskeeGX | and bam, instant 12 people as soon as it's on page 2 |
| 22:51.06 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 22:51.15 | WhiskeeGX | that's just stupid |
| 22:51.23 | Dustin | Ya My older map was popular |
| 22:51.35 | Dustin | and I was spamming the old version telling people to play the new fixed version |
| 22:51.43 | Dustin | now no-one is playing the new one or the old one :( |
| 22:51.47 | ekcolnovkol | how about a queen that chucks eggs o.0 |
| 22:52.00 | WhiskeeGX | current EU's second popular map DOESN'T EVEN WORK (ends immediately) |
| 22:52.09 | WhiskeeGX | but hey, 2 people and 900 games/hour |
| 22:52.12 | Dustin | Are maps region locked |
| 22:52.14 | Hati | yea thats why it is popular |
| 22:52.18 | Hati | yea dustin |
| 22:52.21 | Dustin | Like can EU people not see my US published map? |
| 22:52.22 | Hati | no international market |
| 22:52.24 | Dustin | Wtf is that bulslhit |
| 22:52.28 | Hati | agrre |
| 22:52.30 | Hati | agree* |
| 22:52.40 | Hati | atleast international publish server would be pro. |
| 22:53.12 | Dustin | I just don't understand some of Blizzard stupid ass decisions like that |
| 22:53.15 | WhiskeeGX | just buy 4 copies of the game to share it, with expansions of course. Blizzard suggested it |
| 22:53.18 | WhiskeeGX | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.34 | ekcolnovkol | blizzard's priority is in the user, not the developer |
| 22:53.39 | ekcolnovkol | that much is obvious :/ |
| 22:53.42 | Hati | i see copies of sc2 flying to the podium on blizzcon |
| 22:53.47 | WhiskeeGX | blizzard don't give a fuck about mapmakers :P |
| 22:53.58 | Dustin | Well if it was really to the user theyed support developers more |
| 22:54.01 | Dustin | then everyone is happy |
| 22:54.03 | WhiskeeGX | as it didn't with wow addons creators |
| 22:54.06 | Max_Damage | how do you "Preserve a Trigger" |
| 22:54.21 | Bemoliph- | You don't need to anymore that I know of |
| 22:54.35 | WhiskeeGX | ye the trigger is there forever unless you block it |
| 22:54.39 | Max_Damage | lets say i want to continuously spawn units at a spot |
| 22:54.45 | Max_Damage | i'm trying to figure that out |
| 22:54.47 | WhiskeeGX | create a periodic x seconds event |
| 22:54.54 | Max_Damage | k |
| 22:54.56 | Hati | while (true) wait x seconds |
| 22:55.16 | Max_Damage | nice |
| 22:55.18 | WhiskeeGX | there's no need, a periodic event takes care of it |
| 22:55.21 | Hati | doStuff() |
| 22:55.31 | Max_Damage | dang i should've thoght of the while loop lol |
| 22:55.31 | Hati | yea or a periodic event ... |
| 22:55.50 | Max_Damage | thanks let me see if it works yo :D |
| 22:56.08 | WhiskeeGX | I saw a brilliant map yesterday |
| 22:56.14 | WhiskeeGX | can't really remember the name |
| 22:56.16 | Werepenguin | Ok, I managed to get the individual upgrade thing working now using learn ability. BUT, I have to actually click the upgrades after they have been researched in order for the behavior to take effect. Is there any way to fix this? |
| 22:56.18 | WhiskeeGX | it was a wonderful rpg |
| 22:56.23 | WhiskeeGX | 5th page and nobody played it |
| 22:56.35 | WhiskeeGX | but oh hey AwesomeSuperBeta TD is on page1 let's go for it! |
| 22:56.37 | Werepenguin | click the abilities* |
| 22:58.19 | Hati | WhiskeeGX: saw or also played it? |
| 22:58.44 | WhiskeeGX | played it with another guy who accidentally clicked it |
| 22:58.50 | WhiskeeGX | it was VERY well done |
| 22:58.58 | Hati | you could auto-cast it Were |
| 22:59.06 | Hati | and auto-cast on by default |
| 22:59.09 | WhiskeeGX | still, people play dumb quick maps |
| 23:00.19 | Xapti | yeah whiskee i hate the game list system as it is now |
| 23:00.26 | Xapti | doesnt' even reflect how popular maps are |
| 23:00.43 | Xapti | games shouldn't be listed on the join menu unless someone's hosted them |
| 23:01.19 | Xapti | showing games with 0 players in them is pretty stupid (unless it's a very commonly made game) |
| 23:01.19 | WhiskeeGX | thing is, I wouldn't even care about popularity itself, but a map in page 4-5 won't ever get played |
| 23:01.57 | WhiskeeGX | because one hundred td clones are being shown on top of it |
| 23:02.26 | Xapti | yeah the join gae list is too small, and you have to click every time you want to see 10 more |
| 23:02.48 | Xapti | there should be other ways of filtering results, as opposed to only by popularity |
| 23:02.48 | WhiskeeGX | a simple and good idea would be a "hide this" button. |
| 23:02.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster cronos (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net) |
| 23:02.55 | WhiskeeGX | you played a map, you don't like it, Hide This |
| 23:03.07 | WhiskeeGX | in the end you'll only see things you like or new versions |
| 23:03.08 | Xapti | because popular maps get more popular if it's the only way they are displayed |
| 23:03.31 | ekcolnovkol | lol "NIceFrog presents SC2DOTA-Allstars" |
| 23:03.32 | ekcolnovkol | ahahahahaha |
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| 23:04.07 | WhiskeeGX | thanks, i'll pass :D |
| 23:07.40 | Dustin | Ignorance |
| 23:08.21 | Vortexx | how do I make it so the next map plays when I publish my map? |
| 23:08.35 | Vortexx | i have set next map trigger set up but it doesn't bring it up |
| 23:08.38 | Dustin | huh |
| 23:08.59 | Dustin | Ya that's not possible to my knowledge, yet |
| 23:09.04 | Vortexx | crap, nm |
| 23:10.07 | RodOfNOD | anyone know the exact compression etc that dds uses for textures such as the non normal terrain? |
| 23:10.20 | RodOfNOD | it shows black in the editor but shows of course in the game etc |
| 23:11.22 | Daara | publishing is a nightmare |
| 23:11.31 | FRoZeN | idd |
| 23:11.56 | Daara | i can't set my game to 2 teams |
| 23:12.01 | Daara | or i get a corrupt header |
| 23:12.25 | FRoZeN | i cant publish the map ive been working most on |
| 23:12.28 | FRoZeN | just crashes |
| 23:12.34 | FRoZeN | no clue what happens |
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| 23:14.02 | Dusk | alright so. |
| 23:14.08 | Dusk | how do i make a unit move somewhere? |
| 23:14.09 | Dusk | lol |
| 23:14.14 | RodOfNOD | frozen |
| 23:14.21 | FRoZeN | ? |
| 23:14.27 | RodOfNOD | i havent published yet but... is it easy to actually post it? |
| 23:14.36 | Guest30458 | o. |
| 23:14.36 | RodOfNOD | no penalty for doing it alot is my ? |
| 23:14.58 | RodOfNOD | yes or no frozen? |
| 23:15.07 | FRoZeN | not sure what you are asking :S |
| 23:15.14 | FRoZeN | publishing is easy yes |
| 23:15.18 | RodOfNOD | im asking is there a penalty for pyublishing same map 2000 times |
| 23:15.22 | RodOfNOD | with minor changes |
| 23:15.27 | FRoZeN | no |
| 23:15.30 | RodOfNOD | ok then |
| 23:15.36 | RodOfNOD | remove all triggers but standard melee |
| 23:15.37 | RodOfNOD | publish |
| 23:15.40 | RodOfNOD | see if it works |
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| 23:15.49 | RodOfNOD | if so then turn OFF all triggers but still have them there |
| 23:15.52 | DuskDesertdude | anyone know how i can get a unit to move from point A to point B? seems simple but i cant find the action |
| 23:15.54 | RodOfNOD | keep doing it till it dont work |
| 23:15.55 | RodOfNOD | get it? |
| 23:16.06 | FRoZeN | yup |
| 23:16.08 | RodOfNOD | do u mean order it to move? |
| 23:16.11 | RodOfNOD | or just move it |
| 23:16.14 | RodOfNOD | like instant |
| 23:16.15 | Martul | Still no one has proven me wrong so I am still right |
| 23:16.31 | DuskDesertdude | not instant |
| 23:16.34 | DuskDesertdude | but to get it to travel |
| 23:16.36 | DuskDesertdude | from point a to b |
| 23:16.38 | RodOfNOD | ok then u want to order the unit |
| 23:16.43 | DuskDesertdude | issue order? |
| 23:16.46 | DuskDesertdude | im in that right now |
| 23:16.51 | DuskDesertdude | but its all abilities |
| 23:16.57 | FRoZeN | isnt it normally wrong until proven right martul? |
| 23:17.03 | FRoZeN | :P |
| 23:17.14 | heysparky | Martul, your lone sad song whips me |
| 23:17.26 | Martul | I'm right unless someone proves me wrong (which no one ever will) |
| 23:17.38 | FRoZeN | prove it |
| 23:17.52 | DuskDesertdude | RodOfNOD ? |
| 23:18.12 | Daara | I must be wearing orthopedic shoes, because I stand corrected. |
| 23:18.16 | heysparky | Martul, why don't you have anything better to do than complain in here to we who 1) don't care and 2) couldn't do anything about it if we did? |
| 23:19.08 | RodOfNOD | yes im looking dusk |
| 23:19.12 | RodOfNOD | differnt than wc3 |
| 23:19.19 | DuskDesertdude | ty |
| 23:19.28 | DuskDesertdude | it seems like itd be pretty simple |
| 23:19.33 | DuskDesertdude | idk y they dont just have a Move command |
| 23:19.37 | DuskDesertdude | other than move instantly |
| 23:19.44 | FRoZeN | lol at Daara |
| 23:20.41 | FRoZeN | issue order targeting location |
| 23:20.48 | FRoZeN | or something like that |
| 23:21.02 | FRoZeN | point i think it is actually |
| 23:21.05 | FRoZeN | targeting point |
| 23:21.26 | RodOfNOD | sure but its not there frozen |
| 23:21.26 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:21.31 | RodOfNOD | at least not where it should be |
| 23:21.38 | FRoZeN | ive used it in my map |
| 23:21.46 | FRoZeN | to order units to move |
| 23:21.47 | RodOfNOD | k well its not in the obvious spot |
| 23:21.56 | FRoZeN | sec |
| 23:22.24 | FRoZeN | make the "issue order" action |
| 23:22.34 | FRoZeN | then change the order from "order with no target" |
| 23:22.51 | FRoZeN | to "order targeting point" |
| 23:22.55 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.18 | FRoZeN | yep, its because its an order with no target |
| 23:23.22 | FRoZeN | change the order |
| 23:23.32 | DuskDesertdude | well what ability do i use? |
| 23:23.36 | DuskDesertdude | if i dont want it to use an ability? |
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| 23:24.04 | Alpha_vst | RAWR |
| 23:24.14 | FRoZeN | you dont use the ability one.. you have to change the order from with no target to one targeting point |
| 23:24.15 | DuskDesertdude | FRoZeN? |
| 23:24.20 | DuskDesertdude | i did |
| 23:24.26 | DuskDesertdude | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.52 | FRoZeN | then there is simply one called move |
| 23:25.22 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:25.25 | RodOfNOD | i cant see it either |
| 23:25.30 | RodOfNOD | can u be very specific frozen |
| 23:25.35 | FRoZeN | hmm |
| 23:25.43 | RodOfNOD | i picked this |
| 23:25.43 | RodOfNOD | : Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to (Ability Command) (Replace Existing Orders) |
| 23:25.46 | RodOfNOD | now what |
| 23:25.50 | FRoZeN | select it |
| 23:25.56 | FRoZeN | then in the bottom part of the screen |
| 23:26.03 | FRoZeN | you have the order part of that action |
| 23:26.11 | FRoZeN | you click that and change it to order targeting point |
| 23:26.18 | NeoDeathXp | hey guys |
| 23:26.35 | DuskDesertdude | like this frozen? |
| 23:26.37 | DuskDesertdude | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.42 | FRoZeN | yep |
| 23:26.56 | DuskDesertdude | seems sketchy, idk y they dont have a "Move Unit" command |
| 23:27.05 | DuskDesertdude | using the "move" ability seems unstable lol |
| 23:27.15 | FRoZeN | seems dynamic to me |
| 23:27.27 | FRoZeN | basicly its the same way to use any ability |
| 23:27.47 | FRoZeN | thats the way im doing it at least |
| 23:27.54 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:28.02 | RodOfNOD | that is painful but awesome |
| 23:28.17 | FRoZeN | unless you want to instantly move it ofc |
| 23:28.19 | RodOfNOD | alot more control with blizzards shit now than on wc3 |
| 23:28.21 | FRoZeN | instead of issue an order |
| 23:28.27 | RodOfNOD | no it is doing that |
| 23:28.33 | RodOfNOD | its just hidden cuz of gui |
| 23:28.38 | RodOfNOD | its way better |
| 23:28.43 | RodOfNOD | its just different |
| 23:28.55 | FRoZeN | duskdesertdude make sure its Move|Move not the one called Move|Beacon something |
| 23:29.00 | FRoZeN | but you probably figured that out |
| 23:29.02 | DuskDesertdude | yea |
| 23:29.10 | RodOfNOD | for me biggest thing i hate is double click on it doesnt bring up the one im on it lests me select another and that is so different thatn wc3 :P |
| 23:30.26 | FRoZeN | its cool you can control things like abilities and such much better. |
| 23:31.00 | FRoZeN | made a trigger to make stalkers blink x units away from a melee attacker that hit them, kinda cool to see it work |
| 23:31.21 | ekcolnovkol | GE is much more user-friendly than i had first imagined |
| 23:31.30 | ekcolnovkol | terrible first impression, great finish |
| 23:31.45 | FRoZeN | i think the learning curve is very high |
| 23:32.03 | ekcolnovkol | i think it's fair |
| 23:32.09 | ekcolnovkol | you just have to want to learn it |
| 23:32.21 | FRoZeN | and what it needs is templates to work and learn from |
| 23:32.38 | FRoZeN | so you dont have to start from scratch with everything |
| 23:32.45 | FRoZeN | might help when the game is released tho |
| 23:32.51 | FRoZeN | more content to work with |
| 23:33.13 | ekcolnovkol | i think i learned pretty quickly |
| 23:33.27 | ekcolnovkol | despite only having 2 out of 9000 questions answered from this channel :( |
| 23:33.30 | FRoZeN | yeah but you havent even started to learn everything yet |
| 23:33.46 | FRoZeN | same here |
| 23:33.47 | DuskDesertdude | so its not working frozen |
| 23:33.48 | DuskDesertdude | lol |
| 23:33.52 | FRoZeN | really? |
| 23:34.56 | FRoZeN | what is your event? |
| 23:35.18 | DuskDesertdude | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.19 | DuskDesertdude | o.0 |
| 23:35.23 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
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| 23:35.30 | DuskDesertdude | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.30 | Shmack | Hello? |
| 23:35.47 | DuskDesertdude | they dont move |
| 23:35.50 | FRoZeN | picked unit |
| 23:35.54 | FRoZeN | not selected unit |
| 23:36.01 | FRoZeN | then it should work |
| 23:36.09 | DuskDesertdude | picked isnt an option |
| 23:36.15 | Shmack | Can someone help me out with something if there not busy? |
| 23:36.29 | Shmack | I'm having problems with floating units |
| 23:36.47 | FRoZeN | Order all units in (Selected units for player 1) ? <- this should be picked units |
| 23:36.56 | DuskDesertdude | yes i know what u mean |
| 23:36.59 | FRoZeN | ok |
| 23:37.01 | DuskDesertdude | im saying i cant choose picked unit |
| 23:37.02 | DuskDesertdude | as an option |
| 23:37.09 | FRoZeN | check if it isnt there, even if its greyed out |
| 23:37.09 | RodOfNOD | dusk one thing u have to do is ensure that EVERY time u ref units or groups that u are azctually taking about the correct deal |
| 23:37.14 | RodOfNOD | yes u can |
| 23:37.20 | RodOfNOD | u have to be able |
| 23:37.34 | DuskDesertdude | its not there |
| 23:37.38 | RodOfNOD | k look |
| 23:37.41 | RodOfNOD | it wil be hidden again |
| 23:37.51 | DuskDesertdude | ? |
| 23:38.04 | RodOfNOD | give me asec |
| 23:38.14 | DuskDesertdude | i dont think picked unit works with issue order |
| 23:38.34 | FRoZeN | it does if thats what you did |
| 23:38.37 | FRoZeN | 1 sec |
| 23:39.26 | DuskDesertdude | it works with issue order not issue order to unit grp |
| 23:39.28 | Shmack | http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5177/therefloatsing.jpg can anyone help me with getting this hero back down to the ground? |
| 23:39.54 | ekcolnovkol | unit data - height |
| 23:40.04 | ekcolnovkol | use table view to find it |
| 23:40.16 | Shmack | k i'll check it out thanks |
| 23:40.24 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.39 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.39 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.09 | DuskDesertdude | i got it to work |
| 23:41.16 | DuskDesertdude | i needed to issue order not issue order to unit grp |
| 23:41.20 | DuskDesertdude | ^^ |
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| 23:41.25 | RodOfNOD | well |
| 23:41.28 | RodOfNOD | maybe u did |
| 23:42.12 | FRoZeN | also makes no sense why you pick each unit that is created, and then for each of those you picked a group of units |
| 23:42.18 | FRoZeN | thats why it wasnt working |
| 23:42.20 | Shmack | so Data type- Unit and im looking for height? |
| 23:42.20 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/BhjX2hgX |
| 23:42.32 | FRoZeN | totally upside-down-face :P |
| 23:42.37 | RodOfNOD | depends on what hes doing :P |
| 23:42.42 | FRoZeN | ye |
| 23:42.54 | FRoZeN | but he is ordering the units to move |
| 23:42.55 | FRoZeN | so. |
| 23:42.58 | RodOfNOD | anyways use pastebin way better |
| 23:44.22 | Shmack | Ekcolnovkol i can only find vision hight |
| 23:46.29 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/pix-team-survival/. Pix' Team Survival. pixartist (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 23:47.25 | Dustin | WTB Local Key Press Events |
| 23:47.46 | rrowland | Oh my god, why don't AIMakeAlways and AISetStockUnitNext fucking work |
| 23:47.54 | Shmack | Anyone eals able to help me with this i can only find vision hight and it's set to 0 so im pretty sure that's not what is causing the unit to float |
| 23:49.28 | Shmack | no one knows? |
| 23:49.51 | Vortexx | anyone got any idea why my camera triggers work when i test my map, but not on a published one? |
| 23:53.35 | RodOfNOD | ooh thats bad |
| 23:53.42 | RodOfNOD | id guess a bug :P |
| 23:53.49 | RodOfNOD | urs or blizz hard to tell hehe |
| 23:53.52 | Shmack | http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5177/therefloatsing.jpg That's the Hero and a Item both floating yet there ground units and act as there on the ground |
| 23:54.33 | RodOfNOD | just for the heck of it |
| 23:54.40 | RodOfNOD | pick a standard unit like a marine and put it there |
| 23:54.43 | RodOfNOD | see if it floats ok? |
| 23:54.46 | Shmack | i did |
| 23:54.50 | RodOfNOD | and? |
| 23:54.55 | Shmack | i put a ghost there and it wasnt |
| 23:54.59 | Shmack | floating |
| 23:55.08 | RodOfNOD | so that means something about that unit is different |
| 23:55.11 | RodOfNOD | what did u base it off of? |
| 23:55.31 | Shmack | i used a tutorial on making heros and items |
| 23:55.44 | Shmack | and my hero and items both float |
| 23:56.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Deuce (~602a7ad5@gateway/web/freenode/x-xdsgwxtchntauhcw) |
| 23:56.28 | Shmack | i looked at both the ghost and "Hero ghost" and both are the same |
| 23:56.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Arthas-zzz (~zet@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se) |
| 23:57.10 | Shmack | would it be the actor that is causing this? |
| 23:57.11 | Deuce | Quick Q: Pick Each Player in (Active Players) will only return human players and not computer, right? |
| 23:57.39 | WhiskeeGX | no, even computer ones |
| 23:57.43 | Deuce | booo |
| 23:58.33 | RodOfNOD | sorry shmack all i can say is this: start with the way you made ur hero and see if hero floats. if he doesnt then redo the turtorial steps a couple things at a time till he floats then go see what u did: |
| 23:58.51 | Shmack | Ugh |
| 23:58.52 | Shmack | lol |
| 23:59.09 | Shmack | i don;t remeber where i found the tutorial >_< |
| 23:59.28 | Shmack | brutal o well trial and error |
| 23:59.51 | Shmack | and any one worked with making heros ? |
| 23:59.54 | RodOfNOD | welcome to the world of blizzard :> |
