| 00:00.04 | Motive | I mean like |
| 00:00.08 | Motive | what does it do |
| 00:00.11 | Motive | that it shouldnt |
| 00:00.26 | Skizot | doesn't work lol |
| 00:00.33 | Motive | I mean which way does the missile go |
| 00:00.37 | Skizot | it SHOULD shoot at the playerunits[0] |
| 00:00.40 | Motive | is it too low/high/completely wrong? |
| 00:00.48 | Skizot | it's either straight or UP. |
| 00:00.54 | Motive | hmm |
| 00:01.01 | Motive | are Thor and the player on the same level ground? |
| 00:01.24 | Skizot | yes |
| 00:01.27 | Skizot | atm. |
| 00:01.31 | Motive | that explains it |
| 00:01.39 | Motive | Height of Thor is going to equal Height of PlayerUnits[0] then |
| 00:01.52 | Motive | Height only returns the position of the feet on the ground iirc |
| 00:01.57 | Motive | and based off the current ground z |
| 00:01.59 | Skizot | no.. |
| 00:02.07 | Skizot | my marine is 2.5 |
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| 00:02.09 | Skizot | thor is 0 |
| 00:02.14 | Motive | oh o_O |
| 00:02.37 | Alpha_vst | it should be hieght at poitns shouldnt it |
| 00:02.41 | Alpha_vst | point |
| 00:02.55 | Reactorex | Skizot, |
| 00:03.03 | Reactorex | In my map, height is only relative to ground level. |
| 00:03.04 | Lyrrad | I think the Thor's pilot is incompetant, replace him and it'll all be good |
| 00:03.09 | Reactorex | For some reason or another. |
| 00:03.17 | Motive | Height can be relative to the coordinate plane |
| 00:03.23 | Motive | if you set flag c_unitStateIgnoreTerrainZ i believe |
| 00:03.24 | Reactorex | Mhm. |
| 00:03.34 | Motive | but then you have to set the height wherever it walks, bad solution |
| 00:04.08 | Skizot | lol |
| 00:04.30 | Lyrrad | you could have the thor use thrusters to raise it to the correct height and then attack |
| 00:05.09 | Motive | skizot |
| 00:05.15 | Motive | instead of atan2 |
| 00:05.27 | Motive | try Angle Between Points and specify two fully 3D points |
| 00:05.31 | Motive | I think I tried that with success |
| 00:05.58 | depthsofchaos | skizot youre giving wrong parameters to the atan |
| 00:06.01 | Motive | actually no nvm |
| 00:06.03 | depthsofchaos | it needs distance |
| 00:06.06 | depthsofchaos | between the units |
| 00:06.22 | Skizot | ooohhh.. kay.. |
| 00:06.33 | Skizot | but that won't make the angle difference in height |
| 00:07.02 | depthsofchaos | why |
| 00:08.29 | Skizot | okay.. |
| 00:08.36 | Skizot | say i'm one foot away from you. |
| 00:08.41 | Skizot | but 30 stories up. |
| 00:08.46 | Skizot | it will red ONE FOOT. |
| 00:09.01 | Skizot | i need the angle of 1 foot * 30 stories. |
| 00:09.15 | Sixen | So do... |
| 00:09.39 | Lyrrad | a^2 * b^2 = c^2 |
| 00:09.45 | Lyrrad | errr.... + |
| 00:09.53 | depthsofchaos | http://www.educa.fmf.uni-lj.si/izodel/sola/1999/di/princic/tangens_popr.gif |
| 00:09.53 | Sixen | well |
| 00:10.07 | Sixen | right |
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| 00:10.51 | Skizot | no good btw motive. |
| 00:11.26 | Skizot | and what does the moonlanguage on that picture say? |
| 00:11.35 | Sixen | lol |
| 00:11.39 | depthsofchaos | no clue but doesnt matter :p |
| 00:12.08 | Skizot | so i divide the ditance by the height? |
| 00:12.38 | Sixen | tan(x)=b/a |
| 00:12.52 | Sixen | I don't even remember simple stuff |
| 00:12.53 | Sixen | I phale |
| 00:13.02 | Tehwildcard | tan(lady shrugging) = b/a |
| 00:13.08 | Tehwildcard | Noted |
| 00:13.14 | Sixen | Hah |
| 00:13.20 | depthsofchaos | you divide the height by the distance |
| 00:13.56 | depthsofchaos | but atan2 doesnt need that |
| 00:14.54 | depthsofchaos | so its atan2(heigh,distance) |
| 00:15.29 | Skizot | i can do that.. i think. |
| 00:16.06 | Martul | omg, blizzard failed again. no time system like WC3 had. failed again blizzard... good job |
| 00:16.51 | LuxusElg | you mean day/night system? |
| 00:17.03 | Lyrrad | If that was the problem, wouldn't we see it shooting at an angle, just the wrong angle? |
| 00:17.03 | Skizot | TESTING |
| 00:17.34 | Martul | that and a time system that does hours and mins |
| 00:17.37 | LuxusElg | there is a day/night system, you just have to kind of coax it out of its shell |
| 00:17.56 | LuxusElg | through some triggers and whatnot, but i'm no expert by any means |
| 00:18.02 | LuxusElg | try googling it |
| 00:18.08 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/errors/ by sixen |
| 00:18.28 | Martul | I went into triggers to have it display in text messages the hour and mins but it doesn't exist |
| 00:19.49 | Skizot | that didn't work |
| 00:19.57 | Martul | blizzard failed again.... good job blizzard |
| 00:20.23 | LuxusElg | you mean local time? |
| 00:20.30 | LuxusElg | like, chat timestamps? |
| 00:20.41 | Martul | no |
| 00:21.00 | depthsofchaos | has to work you can see on the image, what did you give as height? |
| 00:21.03 | Martul | remember how in WC3 you had in-game time that the map used. |
| 00:21.08 | LuxusElg | right |
| 00:21.22 | Lyrrad | sc2 isn't wc3 |
| 00:21.28 | LuxusElg | well, i know the game distinguishes between realtime and game time |
| 00:21.41 | Coolflip | just make somthing that does +1 to a value every second |
| 00:21.47 | Martul | there's now 2 things blizzard failed at |
| 00:21.48 | LuxusElg | and a 24h-clock is something you can make yourself with variables and triggers |
| 00:22.16 | LuxusElg | which 2 things would that be? |
| 00:22.20 | Coolflip | martul, i wouldnt say that no in-game time is a game breaking thing |
| 00:22.32 | Lyrrad | There is no e-mail client with the editor, so thats 3 things they failed at |
| 00:22.48 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.05 | Coolflip | does that work? |
| 00:23.19 | Skizot | no |
| 00:23.22 | LuxusElg | right, Lyrrad, they also forgot the dvd-burning software. for shame. |
| 00:23.31 | LuxusElg | :p |
| 00:23.32 | Lyrrad | so 4 things then |
| 00:23.40 | Lyrrad | damn, blizz really sucks |
| 00:23.41 | depthsofchaos | skizot try taking the absolute value of thor height substracted from player height |
| 00:23.54 | Coolflip | they also forgot to implement a dice roller into the console |
| 00:23.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster Reves (~44e63378@gateway/web/freenode/x-owjqnoandurezhtk) |
| 00:23.58 | Coolflip | wait, nevermind, they did........... |
| 00:24.06 | SixTwo | the editor doesn't make me a sammich when asked to, fail blizz fail |
| 00:24.11 | LuxusElg | no rollercoaster either |
| 00:24.25 | Coolflip | sixtwo, you dont know how to code it right |
| 00:24.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (~ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/x-ivhthmjnhfumuniu) |
| 00:24.31 | depthsofchaos | oh wait you can have negative degree too |
| 00:24.31 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/rpg-wip/. rpg wip. Blaaz17 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 00:24.31 | onetwo | lol hilarious that interview |
| 00:24.33 | LuxusElg | and where is my freaking Tab? |
| 00:24.34 | onetwo | was the last straw |
| 00:24.35 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/smash/. Smash. onisagi (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 00:24.38 | SixTwo | yours does ? :o well blizz fails still |
| 00:24.41 | Coolflip | they SPECIFICALLY said, "The editor will make you breakfest if you know how to code it right" |
| 00:24.43 | onetwo | SIXTWO YOU BASTARD |
| 00:24.58 | Sixen | Yeah, he's like a combination of you and I, onetwo. |
| 00:24.59 | twotwo | hi |
| 00:24.59 | SixTwo | lol |
| 00:25.00 | onetwo | FUAUSDuAJHasjd |
| 00:25.05 | onetwo | TWOTWO |
| 00:25.07 | onetwo | ajsdajdasdj |
| 00:25.13 | SixenTwo | owut |
| 00:25.13 | onetwo | anyway |
| 00:25.17 | onetwo | whos up to make Clan Two? |
| 00:25.19 | onetwo | OH WAIT NO CLANS |
| 00:25.19 | twotwo | be threetwo |
| 00:25.22 | twotwo | sixen |
| 00:25.28 | Sixen | suck it |
| 00:25.29 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 00:25.29 | Sixen | lol |
| 00:25.31 | Tutu | Oh noes. |
| 00:25.36 | Sixen | I SUCK GUYS |
| 00:25.36 | Tutu | Nickname in use |
| 00:25.37 | Tutu | The nickname "Sixen" is already being used. |
| 00:25.38 | Tutu | LOL |
| 00:25.38 | onetwo | did anyone read the interview |
| 00:25.40 | SixTwo | lol |
| 00:25.43 | onetwo | pretty good eh |
| 00:25.47 | TheChatGem | Which, OneTwo? |
| 00:25.56 | onetwo | the one that has 18 page post on general forums haha |
| 00:25.59 | onetwo | with blizz guy |
| 00:26.02 | onetwo | i forget |
| 00:26.03 | onetwo | his name |
| 00:26.07 | onetwo | frank something? |
| 00:26.14 | Sixen | ~seen sixen |
| 00:26.16 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen sixen'. |
| 00:26.24 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170606873&sid=5000&pageNo=1 |
| 00:26.24 | Sixen | lol? |
| 00:26.27 | TheChatGem | Get off my name :P |
| 00:26.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:26.34 | Sixen | NEVARRRRRR |
| 00:26.39 | Reves | Anyone had any luck setting hotkeys for inventory items? |
| 00:26.50 | onetwo | i dont want to take sides really, but i didnt like the guys attitude in the interview |
| 00:26.50 | Sixen | To slow |
| 00:26.54 | onetwo | bad rep for blizz |
| 00:26.55 | *** kick/#sc2mapster [Sixen!~Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com] by TheChatGem (Sixen) |
| 00:27.01 | onetwo | whether or not chat channels are coming |
| 00:27.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~coolflips@c-71-56-255-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 00:27.13 | TheChatGem | wow |
| 00:27.13 | Sixen | lol |
| 00:27.15 | TheChatGem | I can't even use it |
| 00:27.15 | TheChatGem | lol |
| 00:27.16 | depthsofchaos | onetwo wheres your new tutorial ?:p |
| 00:27.29 | onetwo | lol its rendering to h264 compression |
| 00:27.32 | onetwo | and part 1 is being uploaded right now |
| 00:27.38 | onetwo | but itll be private until all 4 are up |
| 00:27.49 | Coolflip | take it back |
| 00:27.53 | Coolflip | before someone else does |
| 00:27.53 | Sixen | ;p |
| 00:27.53 | Coolflip | lol |
| 00:28.03 | Sixen | I thought you couldn't use my Nick because it was registered |
| 00:28.05 | Sixen | That's dumb |
| 00:28.05 | onetwo | im not too happy with it because it seems a bit fragmented |
| 00:28.09 | onetwo | but i hope its good |
| 00:28.20 | onetwo | now that beta is extended a week ill be doing a publishing tutorial |
| 00:28.21 | onetwo | as well |
| 00:28.26 | onetwo | was gonna not do it |
| 00:28.30 | onetwo | figuring changes before phase 2 |
| 00:28.46 | Coolflip | Does anyone want to create like tons of items for my mpa? |
| 00:28.47 | Coolflip | map |
| 00:28.53 | Martul | Blizzard's 2 Galaxy Editor fails: no time system like 00:00, and preventing modders from using imported files in order to override files in the mpq. |
| 00:28.58 | Coolflip | creating one freaking item takes like 10 minutes now |
| 00:29.12 | SixTwo | i've never made maps for wc3 or any blizz engine before, but typically maps that drasticlly change gameplay do they also have many many triggers and variables ? |
| 00:29.13 | Coolflip | martul |
| 00:29.19 | SixTwo | I feel like im doing something wrong |
| 00:29.21 | Coolflip | you can just make a trigger that adds one to a value every second |
| 00:29.25 | Coolflip | and boom, time |
| 00:29.41 | onetwo | hah coolflip i hear you on that one |
| 00:29.43 | Lyrrad | Is Martul and Blayzin the same person? |
| 00:29.58 | Coolflip | ~seen blayzin |
| 00:29.59 | purl | blayzin <~chatzilla@ppp-70-243-208-38.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 21h 32m 12s ago, saying: 'I never see anyone helping a single person'. |
| 00:30.03 | Coolflip | nope |
| 00:30.12 | Coolflip | looks like he ragequit sc2mapster though |
| 00:30.13 | Adjudicator | I feel like a chinese gold farmer grinding gold, except I'm grinding my map to the top |
| 00:30.22 | onetwo | yeah adjunicator |
| 00:30.27 | onetwo | i had a sweatshop of people doing it for me |
| 00:30.31 | onetwo | aka me and reactorex and his brother |
| 00:30.42 | Coolflip | i just wish they would have made the editor simpler, not like 5x as hard to make shit |
| 00:30.47 | depthsofchaos | im so popular i have my fans grind it xD |
| 00:30.54 | onetwo | with RPG's its definitely harder |
| 00:31.02 | onetwo | i remember how fast i could copy paste and make 100-200 items |
| 00:31.05 | onetwo | in a day or two |
| 00:31.07 | onetwo | gl now... |
| 00:31.09 | Coolflip | yea |
| 00:31.25 | onetwo | i seriously bet some changes will coem |
| 00:31.27 | onetwo | come* |
| 00:31.29 | onetwo | for speed |
| 00:31.32 | onetwo | and efficiency |
| 00:31.33 | Coolflip | someone is going to need to come up with some non-shit systems to mass create stuff |
| 00:31.37 | onetwo | we just cant churn out maps at the same rate |
| 00:31.40 | onetwo | or theyll be shittier |
| 00:31.40 | Coolflip | ive spent like 2 days on one damn hero |
| 00:31.45 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:31.56 | Sixen | Good read, 12. |
| 00:32.05 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:32.09 | Sixen | It's your new name |
| 00:32.09 | AsaPhelps | whats people's favorite color |
| 00:32.10 | Sixen | :P |
| 00:32.13 | AsaPhelps | red? |
| 00:32.13 | Sixen | green |
| 00:32.15 | onetwo | damn |
| 00:32.15 | Coolflip | d |
| 00:32.16 | AsaPhelps | green |
| 00:32.19 | AsaPhelps | I'll try green |
| 00:32.20 | Coolflip | lol |
| 00:32.22 | Coolflip | sixen |
| 00:32.22 | Sixen | =] |
| 00:32.25 | Sixen | yeah? |
| 00:32.29 | Coolflip | did you take away my /nick? lol |
| 00:32.30 | onetwo | fuscia with a hint of lemon and a curly little straw |
| 00:32.42 | Skizot | this is retarded |
| 00:32.43 | Skizot | :( |
| 00:32.43 | Sixen | no :O |
| 00:32.44 | AsaPhelps | I need a map title color that'll make it stand out |
| 00:32.50 | Skizot | pink |
| 00:32.54 | Sixen | Hah |
| 00:33.04 | Coolflip | just make it white |
| 00:33.21 | Lyrrad | Asa - Blue, in a few days it will be completely unique |
| 00:33.31 | AsaPhelps | Are people copying me lyrrad? |
| 00:33.31 | depthsofchaos | skizot still didnt work? did you substract thor height from players? |
| 00:33.36 | Coolflip | or make it the same exact color as the background, so it looks empty, people will click the empty spot to see if theres somthing there lol |
| 00:33.42 | Skizot | thor height is 0 |
| 00:33.47 | AsaPhelps | I really want to name my map Just another porn map |
| 00:33.48 | Skizot | 2.5 - 0 = 2.5 |
| 00:33.53 | Coolflip | REALLY? |
| 00:33.58 | Coolflip | OMGOMGOGMOGMGOGMGOGMOGMGOGM |
| 00:33.58 | Sixen | Thor height is 0 :O |
| 00:34.07 | depthsofchaos | oh ok then thats the bug |
| 00:34.15 | Skizot | also when we are face to face thor shoots straight up. |
| 00:34.23 | Coolflip | thats probably why attatching stuff to the thor is so weird |
| 00:34.31 | onetwo | does anybody do video rendering here? |
| 00:34.39 | onetwo | i seriously need a bettter system |
| 00:34.46 | onetwo | method* |
| 00:34.52 | depthsofchaos | weird |
| 00:35.04 | depthsofchaos | but when you are face to face both of your height should be 0 |
| 00:35.07 | onetwo | right now i render all parts of my tutorial to <10 min segments into uncompressed video |
| 00:35.10 | onetwo | from Sony Vegas |
| 00:35.11 | onetwo | thats easy |
| 00:35.14 | onetwo | and can be done in batch |
| 00:35.26 | onetwo | but then i run it through Easy h.264 which does great compression with good quality |
| 00:35.29 | onetwo | something my vegas cant do |
| 00:35.36 | onetwo | but it takes like hour+ per 10 min segment |
| 00:35.38 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.39 | onetwo | to do the h.264 thing |
| 00:35.42 | onetwo | and not in batch |
| 00:35.48 | onetwo | and it only uses 20% of my cpu so its such a waste |
| 00:35.49 | onetwo | of time |
| 00:35.51 | Skizot | that is causing him to attack straight up when we are face to face. |
| 00:36.31 | Skizot | and it DOES angle when i am on the platform. |
| 00:36.40 | Skizot | but not enough. |
| 00:37.00 | depthsofchaos | make it write out the angles |
| 00:37.10 | depthsofchaos | so you know if its good |
| 00:37.46 | Martul | Too bad Blizzard never listens to modders |
| 00:38.31 | onetwo | cause they know we'll mod our way out of any situatuon |
| 00:38.33 | onetwo | situation |
| 00:38.54 | depthsofchaos | skizot the main problem is that the thor height shouldnt be lower than the players |
| 00:39.02 | Martul | can't mod your way out of being unable to override mpq files |
| 00:39.03 | Coolflip | what should i name my 50% speed boots |
| 00:39.05 | Coolflip | meh |
| 00:39.14 | Lyrrad | boots of speed |
| 00:39.20 | Coolflip | -_- |
| 00:39.21 | Coolflip | used |
| 00:39.21 | Coolflip | lol |
| 00:39.24 | Coolflip | and running shoes |
| 00:39.35 | Lyrrad | Footwear of speed |
| 00:39.56 | Coolflip | what was the name in dota? |
| 00:40.01 | Coolflip | i have the icon of the red boots |
| 00:40.05 | Lyrrad | Boots of haste |
| 00:40.12 | Coolflip | that be the one |
| 00:40.15 | Martul | Haste* |
| 00:40.18 | Coolflip | yea i figured |
| 00:40.35 | Twiner | alright, so I wasted all day working on 1 ability |
| 00:40.35 | Skizot | the angle is 90 when we are face to face. |
| 00:40.39 | Skizot | and DOES change. |
| 00:40.41 | Twiner | but its pretty cool imo |
| 00:40.48 | Twiner | I am a little biased I suppose |
| 00:40.49 | Skizot | when i move around on the platform. |
| 00:40.53 | onetwo | i should just bring my tutorial files to my work and upload there |
| 00:40.58 | onetwo | its got university speeeeeeeed |
| 00:41.03 | onetwo | so must be good upload |
| 00:41.04 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:41.17 | onetwo | id probably get caught |
| 00:41.33 | Martul | some things are only possible with mpq overrides but sadly you can't |
| 00:41.38 | AsaPhelps | is the word porn censored by blizzard |
| 00:41.40 | Martul | so makes them impossible |
| 00:41.51 | AsaPhelps | also do you think they'd ban if you had the word porn in your title |
| 00:41.53 | Skizot | oh yeah |
| 00:42.01 | Skizot | i see how i'ts doing it. |
| 00:42.07 | Skizot | but no idea how to fix it. |
| 00:42.14 | Lyrrad | You have said that about a dozen times now Martul, we all got the picture |
| 00:42.19 | Skizot | 0 is forward. 90 is up. -90 down. |
| 00:42.34 | Reactorex | A dozen? |
| 00:42.38 | Skizot | same way as my unit. |
| 00:42.39 | Reactorex | I could swear it was more. |
| 00:42.48 | Skizot | but no idea how it gets fixed. |
| 00:42.50 | mosaicpao | is it possible to make a button that can make the weapon of a unit to a different one? |
| 00:42.53 | onetwo | reactorex is here |
| 00:43.01 | Reactorex | I've been here. |
| 00:43.01 | onetwo | LOL MOSAIC |
| 00:43.02 | Reactorex | :P |
| 00:43.04 | onetwo | thats eXACTLY what i did |
| 00:43.06 | onetwo | in infection |
| 00:43.10 | Reactorex | XD |
| 00:43.11 | mosaicpao | oh yeah? |
| 00:43.15 | mosaicpao | hahaha.. |
| 00:43.18 | onetwo | in the editor if you go to file open |
| 00:43.21 | onetwo | file>open |
| 00:43.22 | Reactorex | Mosaic, EU or US? |
| 00:43.25 | onetwo | and change tab to battle.net |
| 00:43.26 | mosaicpao | us |
| 00:43.30 | Reactorex | Go play Infection :P |
| 00:43.32 | onetwo | look for infection |
| 00:43.36 | onetwo | i think itll be in list |
| 00:43.38 | Lyrrad | Skizot - Are you only getting multiples of 90? |
| 00:43.44 | mosaicpao | ok. tnx onetwo.. |
| 00:43.45 | onetwo | then just DL and look at my choose weapon trigger |
| 00:43.49 | Skizot | 66.5442 |
| 00:43.52 | Skizot | atm. |
| 00:43.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster Martul (~chatzilla@ppp-70-243-208-37.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 00:43.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Martul (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/martul) |
| 00:44.07 | Lyrrad | It is Blayzin |
| 00:44.22 | depthsofchaos | skizot try coming up with a static height for the thor thats higher than you are |
| 00:44.34 | Reactorex | Onetwo.. |
| 00:44.35 | Reactorex | I love you. |
| 00:44.36 | mosaicpao | i didnt got to pick a weapon when we tested it.. |
| 00:44.37 | depthsofchaos | higher than 2.5 |
| 00:44.40 | Reactorex | I didn't see the Battle.net tab there. |
| 00:44.40 | Reactorex | :P |
| 00:44.42 | mosaicpao | i always get infected.. |
| 00:44.48 | onetwo | oh |
| 00:44.49 | onetwo | hahah |
| 00:44.51 | onetwo | nice |
| 00:45.14 | Reactorex | I'm just about at the point of creating a map popularity bot, too. >_> |
| 00:45.24 | Reactorex | I dislike the amount of time it takes to bump a map up ;P |
| 00:46.12 | AsaPhelps | what color is your map title |
| 00:46.18 | AsaPhelps | I found red and orange work best |
| 00:46.29 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:46.34 | Lyrrad | Asa - you could be really annoying and alernate colours for letters |
| 00:46.42 | AsaPhelps | You only have so much room though |
| 00:46.45 | AsaPhelps | But yes you could |
| 00:46.59 | AsaPhelps | Okay dilemma |
| 00:47.06 | AsaPhelps | My unit clearly starts with 50000 life |
| 00:47.17 | AsaPhelps | and I have a boss bar set to his health |
| 00:47.22 | AsaPhelps | but the bar starts at 100 |
| 00:47.27 | AsaPhelps | when the unit respawns it works fine |
| 00:47.45 | AsaPhelps | So apparently something is wrong |
| 00:47.49 | Skizot | :( |
| 00:48.08 | onetwo | check the order |
| 00:48.11 | onetwo | of the boss bar actioons |
| 00:48.20 | onetwo | if you set it and then display it |
| 00:48.23 | onetwo | it does different stuff |
| 00:48.24 | onetwo | i found |
| 00:48.26 | onetwo | or reverse |
| 00:48.29 | onetwo | its odd |
| 00:48.30 | mosaicpao | i can't log in to battle.net through the editor. :( |
| 00:48.34 | onetwo | or display and then set |
| 00:48.49 | AsaPhelps | well I have 2 boss bars |
| 00:48.57 | mosaicpao | you have any links where i can DL it onetwo? |
| 00:48.58 | AsaPhelps | exact same except the number and the unit it references |
| 00:49.06 | mosaicpao | infection i mean.. |
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| 00:49.17 | Skizot | :| |
| 00:50.01 | Skizot | no ideas? |
| 00:50.17 | Lyrrad | Sorry Skizot, I am at a loss |
| 00:50.25 | Skizot | http://pastebin.org/289065 |
| 00:50.49 | Lyrrad | Can you show us the trigger that angles the player's attack? |
| 00:51.09 | onetwo | i do now mosaic |
| 00:51.09 | onetwo | http://www.wikiupload.com/ilx0EJKD |
| 00:51.14 | Skizot | that's patented >_> |
| 00:51.50 | Skizot | http://pastebin.org/289068 |
| 00:52.14 | depthsofchaos | i why do you add 180 to boss angle? |
| 00:52.25 | Skizot | someone suggested it :/ |
| 00:52.33 | Reactorex | Mosaic, change your login info. |
| 00:52.37 | Reactorex | Go to preferences. |
| 00:52.43 | Reactorex | Battle.net. |
| 00:52.51 | Reactorex | Switch the Host to us-beta.logon.battle.net |
| 00:52.52 | depthsofchaos | try removing that |
| 00:52.54 | Reactorex | Then try and log in. |
| 00:52.54 | depthsofchaos | and check |
| 00:53.06 | Skizot | i think the GE crashed |
| 00:53.16 | mosaicpao | haha.. tnx onetwo.. |
| 00:53.22 | onetwo | np |
| 00:53.27 | SixTwo | np |
| 00:53.29 | SixTwo | :D |
| 00:53.32 | Reactorex | No problem. |
| 00:53.33 | Reactorex | :P |
| 00:53.55 | sixnine | Sorry, had to xD |
| 00:54.03 | SixTwo | hater :( |
| 00:54.13 | sixnine | Am not :P |
| 00:54.13 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tutorialtalents/. Tutorial:Talents. God_Deathwing (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 00:54.21 | sixnine | Write it out in numbers xP |
| 00:54.50 | onetwo | interesting post in diablo 3 forums about sc2 |
| 00:54.52 | onetwo | by mr clan iraq |
| 00:54.54 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171927052&pageNo=1&sid=3000#15 |
| 00:54.56 | onetwo | bashiok responds |
| 00:55.00 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:55.23 | Lyrrad | Skizot - Looks like you are calculating the angle in the same way, so it is odd that one works and the other doesn't |
| 00:55.50 | AsaPhelps | Personally, chat rooms are soooooo 2002. |
| 00:55.55 | AsaPhelps | They are? |
| 00:56.42 | onetwo | interesting that d3 forums got a response.. |
| 00:56.45 | onetwo | lol clan iraq |
| 00:56.46 | onetwo | always up to no good |
| 00:56.51 | onetwo | with his reaper harass threads |
| 00:57.04 | Adjudicator | LoooL I just found a major imbalance in my map and I need suggestions |
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| 00:57.17 | onetwo | i think all blizz mods know him lol |
| 00:57.22 | Adjudicator | my map is cats vs mice, but the mice can just mass up phoenixes and win |
| 00:57.31 | Adjudicator | since the cats can't do anything |
| 00:57.38 | Adjudicator | what balance changes should I do? |
| 00:57.41 | rrowland | There are a lot more imbalances than that |
| 00:57.50 | Adjudicator | that's a glaring one so far |
| 00:58.17 | rrowland | Build 2 cannons behind a cat when he walks into a mineral spot looking for you |
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| 00:58.26 | rrowland | Trapped cat, mice win, game over |
| 00:58.57 | Skizot | same thing... |
| 00:59.02 | Skizot | but -180 degrees |
| 00:59.04 | Adjudicator | they can just destroy the cannons? |
| 00:59.10 | Adjudicator | or what do you mean |
| 00:59.40 | rrowland | You can't kill the cannons because 2 cannons will kill 1 cat |
| 01:00.17 | Reactorex | I like Bashiok's reply, tbh. :P |
| 01:00.36 | onetwo | its something, thats for sure |
| 01:01.46 | Reactorex | It's the answer that all the Blizz people who are supposed to be on the SC2 Beta forums didn't give. :P |
| 01:02.59 | Coolflip | where is this interview |
| 01:03.08 | Coolflip | nvm |
| 01:03.08 | Reactorex | See above. |
| 01:03.10 | Coolflip | i see |
| 01:03.12 | Reactorex | onetwo posted it xD |
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| 01:03.40 | onetwo | interview that set off the firestorm today: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170606873&sid=5000&pageNo=1 |
| 01:03.58 | onetwo | post in d3 forum where a blue finally talks sense: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171927052&pageNo=1&sid=3000#15 |
| 01:04.21 | onetwo | i like bashioks response to balance |
| 01:04.25 | onetwo | its good to know they read and play |
| 01:04.29 | onetwo | sometimes it seems like they dont |
| 01:04.31 | onetwo | >< |
| 01:04.50 | onetwo | from bashiok: Hahaha. You're hilarious. We all play. All the designers and developers play. Some on semi-pro levels. We're in contact with many pro players, our friends and family that are playing, we read the forums, we read fansites, etc. etc. What I see as the main issue here is that a lot of the time people want balance changes based on flavor of the minute strategies without understanding that it's constantly evolving. So |
| 01:04.53 | onetwo | sorry for spam |
| 01:05.07 | Hati | Q u o t e: |
| 01:05.08 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.08 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.08 | Hati | Correct. |
| 01:05.10 | Hati | he's wise |
| 01:05.28 | TheLaughingMan | http://sharkrobot.com/images/large/print_gucomics_anatomyforumtroll_LRG.jpg |
| 01:05.36 | Hati | vote for Bashiok boss in D3 |
| 01:06.18 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:07.06 | Hati | oh yea |
| 01:07.38 | Hati | it's like this |
| 01:07.39 | Hati | http://pics.nase-bohren.de/thankyou-bp.jpg |
| 01:07.40 | Skizot | how would i REVERSE an angle? |
| 01:07.47 | Hati | -angle |
| 01:07.47 | Hati | ? |
| 01:08.02 | Hati | or what you mean by REVERSE ? |
| 01:08.04 | onetwo | lol hati |
| 01:08.19 | Skizot | my boss now shoots DOWN instead of up. |
| 01:08.33 | onetwo | + 180? |
| 01:08.45 | Lyrrad | we already tried that onetwo |
| 01:08.46 | Hati | http://pics.nase-bohren.de/360-coffin.jpg that's epic :P |
| 01:08.52 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:08.53 | onetwo | im far behind |
| 01:08.56 | onetwo | OH |
| 01:08.57 | onetwo | you know what |
| 01:09.00 | onetwo | i believe |
| 01:09.09 | onetwo | before |
| 01:09.09 | onetwo | when i was dealing with angles in the trigger editor befire |
| 01:09.13 | onetwo | it uses some weird negatives system |
| 01:09.19 | onetwo | like one side goes to -180 |
| 01:09.19 | Hati | can we see how you adjust the angle of shoot |
| 01:09.22 | Hati | may that helps |
| 01:09.52 | onetwo | not sure beyond that |
| 01:09.55 | onetwo | sry |
| 01:10.45 | Skizot | http://pastebin.org/289065 |
| 01:11.19 | Skizot | i changed the + 180 to + 90 |
| 01:11.35 | Skizot | so now it shoots straight when i'm in front of it. but if i'm on a paltform.. |
| 01:11.41 | Skizot | it shoots down. |
| 01:11.52 | Adjudicator | rrowland what game are you talking about lol in helcats vs mouse, 1 cat can destroy cannons in three hits |
| 01:12.09 | Adjudicator | I just need to nerf some of this air so cats can stand a chance late game |
| 01:12.20 | Lyrrad | He is probably talking about your original |
| 01:12.35 | AsaPhelps | I think my catchy title is cursed |
| 01:12.39 | Lyrrad | which you just waited for the cats to enter your base and then block off the exit with cannons |
| 01:12.39 | AsaPhelps | did you change your font adjud? |
| 01:12.42 | Adjudicator | origins? lol |
| 01:12.51 | Adjudicator | no, it's still orange |
| 01:12.53 | Adjudicator | and purdy |
| 01:12.55 | Adjudicator | o.O |
| 01:13.08 | AsaPhelps | is it possible to make an ability run a trigger? |
| 01:13.16 | AsaPhelps | nm I can figure that out actually |
| 01:13.18 | Adjudicator | Lyrrad, let me know if you think something should be balanced in my newer version |
| 01:13.30 | Adjudicator | no idea Asa.. I'm bad at triggers |
| 01:14.03 | AsaPhelps | I'm making a creep missile |
| 01:14.07 | AsaPhelps | I know people'll hate it |
| 01:14.14 | Adjudicator | Jeez, people are quite obsessed with Battlefield Armageddon aren't they |
| 01:14.14 | AsaPhelps | but I just think it'll be too funny |
| 01:14.18 | AsaPhelps | Yes they are |
| 01:14.25 | AsaPhelps | his title isn't even colored |
| 01:14.27 | Adjudicator | 1300 games |
| 01:14.32 | Adjudicator | and it's just a game of counters |
| 01:14.37 | AsaPhelps | is ba just a evolves map? |
| 01:14.47 | Adjudicator | haven't played Evolves |
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| 01:15.14 | onetwo | youd be really surprised what makes top of popularity |
| 01:15.16 | Skizot | hati? |
| 01:15.19 | onetwo | it kind of reminds me of music charts |
| 01:15.43 | AsaPhelps | my map was 4th most popular 15 minutes after release because I had a big title that was mostly cut off |
| 01:15.59 | Lyrrad | Something that is fast and doesn't require a lot of players has a huge advantage in "popularity" |
| 01:16.05 | AsaPhelps | ^^ |
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| 01:16.25 | AsaPhelps | I just keep making/quitting games until I'm 2-3 pages down |
| 01:16.28 | onetwo | same with mine asa |
| 01:16.35 | onetwo | on release day it was funny |
| 01:16.40 | onetwo | then people mottled into the defense maps |
| 01:16.41 | onetwo | since then |
| 01:17.00 | Coolflip | whats the map asa? |
| 01:17.03 | Coolflip | ill help you out |
| 01:17.15 | Coolflip | actually nvm |
| 01:17.19 | Coolflip | forgot i have to get my shop fixed |
| 01:17.38 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:17.42 | MrRoy | I've been trying to make units invulerable with triggers, but I haven't been able to. All I found is "Last created unit". Is it possible to make them spawn invincible or we have to use last created? Because I tried put the Make last created unit invincible after the creation of the unit, with no luck. |
| 01:19.08 | MrRoy | Anyone has an idea on how to? |
| 01:19.21 | Skizot | yes it's possible. |
| 01:19.29 | MrRoy | How? |
| 01:19.47 | Skizot | add 1 permantly invulnberable to (last crated unit) |
| 01:20.05 | Reactorex | MrRoy, how is the unit created? |
| 01:20.11 | Reactorex | Via a trigger, or via a build order? |
| 01:20.33 | MrRoy | Action -> Create unit for player at point using default faction (no options) |
| 01:20.39 | MrRoy | a trigger |
| 01:20.53 | MrRoy | The event is map initialization |
| 01:20.55 | Reactorex | Then apply the Permanently Invulnerable buff to the last created unit right after that action. |
| 01:21.08 | Reactorex | What Skizot's saying. |
| 01:21.13 | MrRoy | I tried but it didn't work |
| 01:21.15 | Six-Two | add that unit to a variable, then you can do make unit invulnerable and select the variable, wich can also be an array |
| 01:21.19 | MrRoy | but imma try again |
| 01:21.31 | Six-Two | i think im new to this :p |
| 01:21.36 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.40 | Skizot | like that. |
| 01:23.35 | MrRoy | I tried putting a "make last created unit" right after the create unit, but it wasn't invulnerable |
| 01:23.44 | MrRoy | imma try what six-two said |
| 01:25.17 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:25.17 | onetwo | what |
| 01:25.18 | onetwo | damnit |
| 01:25.20 | onetwo | sixtwo |
| 01:25.28 | Six-Two | try this, create a new variable, set it to unit, click the array and set how many you'll need, then after you spawn a unit do set variable, choose your unit array and set it to 0, next one to 1 etc etc |
| 01:25.47 | Six-Two | then you can do add behaviour to unit and make permanentlly invulnerable |
| 01:26.09 | MrRoy | Well in fact |
| 01:26.36 | MrRoy | I got it to work with last created unit (... I wasnt putting it for player 1, that's why it wasnt working :( ) |
| 01:26.48 | SixTwo | heh :D |
| 01:26.56 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:27.04 | MrRoy | lol |
| 01:28.13 | onetwo | i mean |
| 01:28.14 | onetwo | heh :D |
| 01:28.23 | SixTwo | hater |
| 01:29.06 | onetwo | hater |
| 01:29.10 | onetwo | hahaa i love the idea of a Dirt League |
| 01:29.13 | onetwo | below bronze |
| 01:29.15 | onetwo | thats hilarious |
| 01:30.24 | Adjudicator | that would be demeaning to those in it |
| 01:30.44 | onetwo | maybe theyd wake up and try harder |
| 01:30.46 | Coolflip | i followed this tutorial on a shop, but its not working :( |
| 01:30.47 | Coolflip | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwxqVvFTKl8&feature=player_embedded |
| 01:30.48 | onetwo | or just roll in the dirt |
| 01:30.49 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:30.52 | Coolflip | is there somthing new i have to do? |
| 01:31.27 | mosaicpao | what does it mean when max count = -1? |
| 01:31.36 | Coolflip | unlimited |
| 01:31.55 | mosaicpao | like unlimited targets? |
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| 01:32.36 | mosaicpao | unlimited upgrades? |
| 01:32.49 | Alpha_vst | YES |
| 01:32.52 | SixTwo | would something like this work ? rough outline |
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| 01:32.58 | Alpha_vst | MY Monster is alive |
| 01:33.01 | SixTwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.04 | Insaneelite | Anybody know where to modify a unit's aggro radius in the data editor? |
| 01:33.32 | MrRoy | Well |
| 01:33.41 | onetwo | so i tried a new "batch" renderer for my tutorial videos |
| 01:33.42 | MrRoy | If the unit is set to agressive |
| 01:33.50 | onetwo | like my last renderer, its only using 15-25% of my cpu |
| 01:33.53 | onetwo | wth |
| 01:34.20 | MrRoy | Insaneelite, if the unit is set to agressive, it should attack anything in it's sight radius |
| 01:34.50 | MrRoy | Which is the stats |
| 01:34.53 | MrRoy | in the stats tab* |
| 01:34.57 | Insaneelite | That's odd, then. I maxed out the sight radius for a unit, and gave it's player complete view of the map, yet it does not attack my units. |
| 01:35.01 | Insaneelite | I'll look into it. |
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| 01:35.11 | MrRoy | And it's agressive6 |
| 01:35.23 | MrRoy | Offesive* |
| 01:35.50 | MrRoy | Then I would say increase it's attack target priority |
| 01:35.59 | MrRoy | Which could be the range of aggro, but not sure. |
| 01:36.07 | Insaneelite | Alright, I'll check that out. |
| 01:36.34 | Coolflip | onetwo, set the priority higher in task manager? |
| 01:36.38 | Insaneelite | I'm pretty sure it's just a modifier for when the AI needs to decide who to attack |
| 01:36.41 | onetwo | i did |
| 01:36.46 | Insaneelite | It just goes after the unit with the highest target priority |
| 01:36.54 | onetwo | i think its just old software |
| 01:36.57 | onetwo | not utilizing 4 cores |
| 01:36.59 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 01:37.06 | onetwo | Sony Vegas will use 70-90% |
| 01:37.11 | onetwo | but it cant do 2-pass rendering |
| 01:37.13 | onetwo | for smaller files |
| 01:37.25 | onetwo | so i have to use these workaround "easy H264" rendering programs |
| 01:37.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:37.34 | onetwo | if that makes sense to anyone |
| 01:37.38 | onetwo | who does video |
| 01:38.33 | AsaPhelps | anyone know how to move a timer window? |
| 01:38.41 | Alpha_vst | GRRRR MY RANDOM xy is still borked |
| 01:38.56 | Alpha_vst | it ran once perfectly :( |
| 01:39.34 | Insaneelite | Yeah target priority didn't work |
| 01:39.43 | mosaicpao | i wish we can open two map editors at once.. :( |
| 01:39.43 | MrRoy | oh |
| 01:39.58 | Insaneelite | I'm looking in the advanced fields. |
| 01:40.02 | Insaneelite | Trying to find anything |
| 01:41.33 | SixTwo | mosaicpaio you can open mpore than 1 map at a time |
| 01:41.39 | SixTwo | and switch between them at any time |
| 01:41.43 | Sixen | Is Battle.net down? |
| 01:41.52 | Insaneelite | I'll check. |
| 01:41.59 | Sixen | <3 |
| 01:42.00 | Insaneelite | It's been coming down all day though, Sixen. |
| 01:42.07 | Sixen | Ah, gotcha. |
| 01:42.32 | AsaPhelps | Is there a good biological icon? |
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| 01:42.41 | Insaneelite | It's up. |
| 01:42.44 | Sci_ | heya |
| 01:43.01 | TheLaughingMan | AsaPhelps, check all my icons |
| 01:43.17 | Sixen | Mmkay, thanks Insane. |
| 01:43.37 | AsaPhelps | where tlm? |
| 01:43.39 | Insaneelite | Mmhm. |
| 01:43.51 | AsaPhelps | I know I could just import one but I don't want me map to be getting too big |
| 01:43.53 | TheLaughingMan | The only icons on SC2Mapsters? |
| 01:45.08 | Reves | Woot just figued out how to change a hotkey mid game! |
| 01:45.15 | AsaPhelps | nice reves |
| 01:45.27 | Coolflip | did you do the wc3 icons? |
| 01:46.12 | AsaPhelps | can gimp preview .dds files? |
| 01:46.38 | MrRoy | I think so |
| 01:46.38 | TheLaughingMan | you need the gimp-dds plugin |
| 01:46.46 | Coolflip | laughing man |
| 01:46.50 | Coolflip | can i get a link to your icons? |
| 01:46.57 | AsaPhelps | I have that but my images just have the gimp icon on them instead of the image's preview |
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| 01:47.42 | TheLaughingMan | That is different |
| 01:47.48 | Insaneelite | Hmm.. knowing the B.net forums this guy was lying and you can't modify a unit's aggro radius. |
| 01:47.51 | TheLaughingMan | gimp preview means viewing it in gimp |
| 01:48.02 | TheLaughingMan | viewing it as the image's preview is window's previewing it |
| 01:48.23 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 01:48.29 | Reves | Now to see if I can the skills on command card 1 mid game! Trying to make a customizable command card( and eventually a hotbar). |
| 01:48.41 | TheLaughingMan | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/?category=icons |
| 01:48.42 | AsaPhelps | so is there a quick way to view all those files laughing or just going through 1 at a time? |
| 01:48.45 | Insaneelite | Good luck with that, Reves. |
| 01:48.46 | TheLaughingMan | I got my own category! |
| 01:49.00 | Hati | someone who made an enGB map here? |
| 01:49.13 | Hati | requiring a map to test localization, but lazy to search :/ |
| 01:49.19 | Hati | or any other except enUS :P |
| 01:49.35 | Reves | I think I already know how to do it too! Gonna be a long trigger job though. |
| 01:49.36 | Sixen | TLM, you still need War1 help? |
| 01:49.43 | TheLaughingMan | Duh |
| 01:49.53 | TheLaughingMan | I got distracted and started playing the campaign |
| 01:49.53 | Sixen | I'll try and get that for you today. |
| 01:49.55 | Sixen | lol |
| 01:50.18 | TheLaughingMan | the best way to get them is to just do a custom game as each race |
| 01:50.27 | onetwo | lol so incase anyone missed this, youtube gives out partnerships on a per-video and invite-basis only. Part 3 of my simple tower D was somehow chosen, and if they accept it, I might make money off of it |
| 01:50.29 | onetwo | this is interesting |
| 01:50.31 | TheLaughingMan | and take screenshots of every unit at every stage |
| 01:50.32 | onetwo | probably nothing though |
| 01:50.50 | onetwo | and i might get rejected because video game content, although they say they allow any teaching/education use of software |
| 01:52.03 | onetwo | who knows >< |
| 01:52.15 | AsaPhelps | whats so special about your part 3 that is better than parts 1 2 or 4? |
| 01:52.26 | Sci_ | ok, who wants to help me out? :D |
| 01:52.32 | onetwo | NO IDEA asa |
| 01:52.36 | onetwo | it just got chosen by their "bot" |
| 01:52.37 | onetwo | i guess |
| 01:52.44 | onetwo | i mentioned that though in my "plea" |
| 01:52.45 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:52.49 | AsaPhelps | do you have color in your title |
| 01:52.52 | AsaPhelps | because that works wonders |
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| 01:53.15 | Sci_ | I'm playing with actor events, and specifically the action 'Set Rotation From', I want to be able to set the units rotation by a variable somewhere |
| 01:53.35 | onetwo | nope |
| 01:53.36 | onetwo | haah |
| 01:53.47 | Sci_ | just not sure how I use the selections 'Actor Alias System Reference Custom' |
| 01:53.57 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen, I figured out how to make a framework for Trigger Based AIs |
| 01:54.32 | Sci_ | so is anyone in here pretty familiar with actor events? |
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| 01:55.57 | Sixen | Orly? |
| 01:58.35 | Sci_ | anyone? |
| 02:00.40 | DarkPrince | So... is there a good way to learn strenghts and weaknesses when it comes to gameplay? Lol. I just got nuked by immortals. |
| 02:01.04 | TheLaughingMan | Design an AI |
| 02:01.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Cromalic (~crom@49.84-49-196.nextgentel.com) |
| 02:01.16 | pkol | play games |
| 02:01.21 | pkol | watch replays |
| 02:01.31 | DarkPrince | lol ok I get it. :) |
| 02:01.38 | pkol | is simple as that |
| 02:01.40 | pkol | what race? |
| 02:01.52 | DarkPrince | I was zerg, he toss. |
| 02:01.56 | onetwo | lol from youtube's help (I love typos): make sure that the audio codec is AAC. Always use ACC as the preferred audio codec. |
| 02:01.57 | DarkPrince | Hyras just went... pop. |
| 02:02.11 | pkol | how many immortals did he have? |
| 02:03.10 | RickA | Immortals only counter 2 zerg units, and 1 of them you didn't have. |
| 02:03.25 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/data-type/ by onisagi |
| 02:04.07 | DarkPrince | I see, I say he had 2 dozen or 3... |
| 02:04.23 | DarkPrince | About ... eh.... 10 mins in, no ups.. |
| 02:04.27 | pkol | 2 dozen immortals? holy fuck |
| 02:05.30 | Skizot | SON OF A... |
| 02:05.40 | Skizot | FUCK YOU GAME. FUCK. YOU. |
| 02:05.44 | MrRoy | How can you change the scale of a mineral field? |
| 02:05.51 | DarkPrince | Like I said... nuked by immortals. |
| 02:06.07 | pkol | yeah |
| 02:06.09 | pkol | well |
| 02:06.10 | pkol | either |
| 02:06.12 | pkol | go air |
| 02:06.20 | pkol | or don't let him get 24 immortals |
| 02:06.20 | AsaPhelps | whats more annoying |
| 02:06.21 | pkol | :p |
| 02:06.24 | DarkPrince | Lol |
| 02:06.38 | DarkPrince | True, I did carry hydras into the back of his base, like 3 mins too late. :) |
| 02:06.43 | DarkPrince | But ok. Just wow... |
| 02:06.44 | AsaPhelps | a missile that drops creep as it goes through the air or one that makes your buildings spawn creep so you can't build in the area when it explodes? |
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| 02:07.53 | Sci_ | anyone here know anything about the actor events? |
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| 02:10.09 | Coolflip | well wtf |
| 02:10.09 | Cromalic | sup yo |
| 02:10.20 | Coolflip | when i test my map, it just minimizes sc2 |
| 02:10.31 | Coolflip | when i go to maximize it, it reminimizes in like a second |
| 02:10.45 | Cromalic | :< |
| 02:10.57 | Hati | You've wrote the unbeatable game. |
| 02:11.13 | Hati | written* |
| 02:11.39 | Cromalic | haha |
| 02:11.43 | Cromalic | hati btw |
| 02:11.46 | Cromalic | did i ask you before about this |
| 02:11.51 | Cromalic | if it's possible to change the mover of a unit? |
| 02:11.54 | Cromalic | through triggers or abilities |
| 02:12.04 | Hati | think so |
| 02:12.12 | Hati | through triggers you could edit the catalog |
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| 02:12.20 | Hati | if this applies directly to units on field - hmm |
| 02:12.22 | Hati | hard to say |
| 02:12.40 | AMPFX | sup guys |
| 02:12.46 | Hati | still not compacted fully :( |
| 02:12.49 | Hati | meh blizzard |
| 02:12.50 | Hati | meh! |
| 02:12.58 | Coolflip | uhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 02:13.05 | Cromalic | hmmm |
| 02:13.06 | AMPFX | i have a pretty noob question here lol, iv been looking around for a while, how do i make players have no fog? |
| 02:13.10 | onetwo | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK |
| 02:13.14 | onetwo | computer crashed |
| 02:13.15 | Cromalic | coz i wanted to change the mover of a unit which is in the field :S |
| 02:13.18 | onetwo | whiel rendering my tutorial |
| 02:13.23 | Hati | Reveal whole map AMPFX |
| 02:13.24 | Six-Two | create a reveler AMPFX |
| 02:13.38 | onetwo | create a reveler AMPFX |
| 02:13.43 | onetwo | i am robot six two |
| 02:13.46 | onetwo | need oil |
| 02:13.49 | onetwo | beep beep |
| 02:13.50 | Six-Two | hater's gon hate |
| 02:14.00 | AMPFX | is that a unit? |
| 02:14.11 | Six-Two | new action |
| 02:14.14 | Hati | Trigger, unit can it be too (not recommended) |
| 02:14.14 | AMPFX | ohhhh |
| 02:14.23 | AMPFX | thanks :] |
| 02:14.25 | Hati | or action like Six said |
| 02:15.06 | Cromalic | can you only apply 'buff' type behaviors through triggers? |
| 02:15.10 | Cromalic | tried to add other types |
| 02:15.19 | Cromalic | but didn't seem to work |
| 02:15.26 | Skizot | I WIN BITCH |
| 02:15.33 | Skizot | I FUCKING WIN |
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| 02:15.41 | Lyrrad | you solved the problem? |
| 02:15.45 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.45 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.45 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.52 | Skizot | with that. |
| 02:16.06 | Hati | hmm |
| 02:16.10 | Hati | i think that's minimum |
| 02:16.21 | Hati | OperationTerranShieldp - Copy (3)-2010-05-29-c218d8db - 165kb |
| 02:16.27 | Hati | OperationTerranShieldp - Copy (3) - 228kb |
| 02:16.31 | Hati | 226* |
| 02:16.36 | Hati | after localization |
| 02:16.39 | AsaPhelps | How do you set a duration of a behavior? |
| 02:16.56 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/data-type/actors/site/ by onisagi |
| 02:16.59 | Lyrrad | Duration |
| 02:17.01 | AsaPhelps | well this behavior doesn't have a timer |
| 02:17.14 | Hati | what kind of Behavior ? |
| 02:17.19 | AsaPhelps | creep source |
| 02:17.29 | AsaPhelps | if I change it to a buff think it'll still work? |
| 02:17.30 | Hati | hmm |
| 02:17.37 | Lyrrad | probably not |
| 02:17.37 | Hati | you could use Persistent |
| 02:17.41 | Hati | Effect Persistent |
| 02:17.44 | Hati | Apply Behavior |
| 02:17.59 | Hati | Dunno what exactly you're going to do |
| 02:18.20 | AsaPhelps | I have it so when my missile explodes it applies the creep building to nearby strucutures |
| 02:18.27 | AsaPhelps | but I don't want it lasting forever |
| 02:19.10 | Six-Two | can you not just remove the behaviour after a timer or trigger runs ? |
| 02:19.40 | AsaPhelps | I suppose I could use a trigger :/ |
| 02:20.11 | Lyrrad | Marine Arena has colours name now, and nuclear defense has coloured modes |
| 02:20.44 | AsaPhelps | those copiers |
| 02:20.52 | AsaPhelps | I need to embed porn into my title |
| 02:20.56 | AsaPhelps | then i'll be winning |
| 02:21.02 | SixTwo | true, sex sells |
| 02:21.03 | Cromalic | hmmmm, can i turn of the ability for players to drag a selection box? |
| 02:21.17 | Lyrrad | In a matter of days just about all of them will have coloured names |
| 02:21.54 | Lyrrad | and Defends the Headquarters is pink |
| 02:22.25 | cronos | Im pink also .. out side 8am - 8pm no sunblock |
| 02:22.42 | cronos | nire like red really |
| 02:22.45 | rrowland | Anybody ever say how to set the global timescale for all units? |
| 02:22.57 | rrowland | As seen in the bullet time vid? |
| 02:23.20 | Cromalic | anyone here know if it's possible to turn off the ability for players to drag a selection box? :) |
| 02:23.39 | RickA | you can remove mouse control, but not just a selection box I think |
| 02:24.24 | Cromalic | ok, thanks |
| 02:24.25 | MrRoy | Is there a way to make a unit change team |
| 02:24.39 | SixTwo | set alliance i think does that |
| 02:24.41 | Cromalic | ye |
| 02:24.45 | MrRoy | Like, when unit of player X enters region X, change team and issue order |
| 02:24.47 | MrRoy | ok thanks |
| 02:24.55 | Cromalic | or |
| 02:24.56 | Cromalic | simply |
| 02:24.57 | Cromalic | go to unit |
| 02:25.06 | Cromalic | under triggers - action |
| 02:25.08 | Cromalic | and change owner |
| 02:25.12 | Cromalic | i believe it's called |
| 02:25.18 | Twiner | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmmo5ANoPXI what ya think? |
| 02:25.19 | MrRoy | ok, thanks |
| 02:25.20 | MrRoy | but |
| 02:25.24 | MrRoy | in event |
| 02:25.26 | MrRoy | can I make it so |
| 02:25.30 | MrRoy | cuz right now its |
| 02:25.30 | Skizot | okay... |
| 02:25.37 | MrRoy | "Any unit enters region X" |
| 02:25.38 | AsaPhelps | for the loading screen why does my text now go to the bottom left etc |
| 02:25.40 | Skizot | SO... i could publish my map. |
| 02:25.45 | MrRoy | can I make it "Any unit of player X enters region Y" |
| 02:25.49 | SixTwo | Cromalic: can you not do something like add selected units to a variable unit group, then do random unit from unitgroup, would return you only 1 unit, even if they drag selected everything |
| 02:25.49 | Skizot | and let you guys try it. |
| 02:26.13 | Twiner | MrRoy: you could use conditions |
| 02:26.20 | MrRoy | ohh |
| 02:26.22 | MrRoy | sure |
| 02:26.25 | MrRoy | why didn't I think of it |
| 02:26.26 | MrRoy | thanks |
| 02:26.31 | Twiner | Any unit enters region event |
| 02:26.36 | Twiner | if unit is owned by player x |
| 02:26.46 | RickA | I like how that ends if the target dies early |
| 02:26.59 | RickA | I tried doing that once, but 2 more units spawned anyway. |
| 02:27.12 | Twiner | what, what I said? |
| 02:27.18 | Cromalic | sixtwo: actually the units are not selectable as it is |
| 02:27.22 | RickA | yes |
| 02:27.35 | Cromalic | so it's just cosmetic, since the selection box won't do anything |
| 02:27.36 | MrRoy | What do you guys think of an individual cannon defense |
| 02:27.37 | Twiner | the first thing that happens is a check |
| 02:27.52 | RickA | MrRoy: Too many defenses already |
| 02:27.52 | SixTwo | ahh I don't know :o then |
| 02:27.56 | RickA | Make something unique |
| 02:28.00 | MrRoy | not individual |
| 02:28.04 | Twiner | and if what you're doing is going to take more than a few ms, then you can just throw in checks to make sure the unit is still alive |
| 02:28.05 | RickA | Doesn't matter |
| 02:28.06 | MrRoy | it'll be the first one I think |
| 02:28.09 | MrRoy | lol |
| 02:28.10 | RickA | Everyone and their mother has made one |
| 02:28.19 | MrRoy | :( |
| 02:28.29 | RickA | Just how like by the time I release my RPG, there will be 10 better ones out. |
| 02:28.32 | Twiner | everyone and their mmother has made the same ones |
| 02:28.45 | Twiner | I have a plan for a TD, but Its going to come after I do the rogue like |
| 02:28.52 | Sci__ | anyone else have a problem where after certain changes their map tests as a melee map even though you've removed those triggers? |
| 02:28.55 | SixTwo | its the easiest to startout with, ive never coded or made maps before but trying to do a tower defense i learned quite a bit, I'd still go for it MrRoy |
| 02:28.57 | Vortexx | i can't upload my file to mapster |
| 02:29.01 | Twiner | I can reasonably say its relatively unique |
| 02:29.14 | RickA | How do you randomly generate a dungeon in SC2? |
| 02:29.16 | Vortexx | I deleted the old one and it still says that I can't upload the same file twice |
| 02:29.46 | Sci__ | so, one more time... anyone willing to help me out with some actor events? |
| 02:29.47 | Twiner | RickA: a random dungeon generator just sets an array of bools to true or false (for the most simple generators) |
| 02:30.01 | Twiner | you can do that in SC2 |
| 02:30.09 | Twiner | as far as building the dungeon goes, you have options |
| 02:30.31 | Twiner | buildings, doodads, unit models and dynamic pathing blockers, terrain deformation and dynamic pathing blockers |
| 02:30.49 | Twiner | it can all be added and removed during gameplay |
| 02:31.18 | Twiner | Helral already finished one, the rat, he started after I did, and he bieat me :p |
| 02:33.08 | RickA | Do you have a link to his? |
| 02:33.25 | Martul | :( |
| 02:33.42 | Twiner | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-show-room/2407-helrals-random-dungeon-map/ |
| 02:33.43 | Martul | :( |
| 02:34.22 | rrowland | So this malu guy posted the gamespeed control video and didn't post the function he's using? |
| 02:34.22 | rrowland | Wow |
| 02:34.41 | MrRoy | How do you set teams? |
| 02:35.08 | MrRoy | with triggers? |
| 02:35.28 | SixTwo | you could do that yeah |
| 02:35.28 | Sci__ | kk, bye |
| 02:35.36 | MrRoy | But is there another way? |
| 02:35.37 | SixTwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.49 | MrRoy | ok |
| 02:36.16 | AMPFX | Hey guys, mind if i ask another quick question? :3 |
| 02:36.31 | SixTwo | its an action, you can set it in your map init trigger |
| 02:36.42 | Skizot | anyone having problems publishing? |
| 02:36.48 | MrRoy | Yep, thanks |
| 02:36.50 | MrRoy | I made it |
| 02:36.53 | AsaPhelps | bumping your own map to popularity is hard work |
| 02:36.57 | AsaPhelps | what problem do you have skiz |
| 02:37.26 | AMPFX | does anyone know how, if i have a unit "enrage" when it kills something, and grow in size, can i have the scale increase only last for 5 seconds? |
| 02:38.13 | RickA | Yes |
| 02:38.40 | Skizot | i keep geeting "Lost conenction to gateway" |
| 02:38.52 | RickA | Sweet, I made the world's lamest meteor spell. |
| 02:38.56 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/data-type/actors/site/ by onisagi |
| 02:39.12 | Skizot | WOO |
| 02:39.54 | Skizot | you SHOULD be able to search for terran and find my map. |
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| 02:40.35 | MrRoy | Should people have lifes in my map, or insta-death if one unit passes6 |
| 02:40.36 | picklefish | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.04 | MrRoy | piclefish |
| 02:41.07 | AsaPhelps | instant death |
| 02:41.09 | AsaPhelps | that'll teach them |
| 02:41.11 | MrRoy | lol |
| 02:41.12 | MrRoy | ok |
| 02:41.16 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/data-type/actors/site/ by onisagi |
| 02:42.42 | Martul | :( |
| 02:43.05 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/data-type/ by onisagi |
| 02:44.08 | Skizot | if you DO play my map. |
| 02:44.10 | Lyrrad | Whats the problem now Blayzin, discovered the editor won't restock your fridge? |
| 02:44.14 | Skizot | please report bugs to me. |
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| 02:46.08 | Jcup | Herro |
| 02:46.14 | Jcup | Errebody :P |
| 02:46.36 | picklefish | man I've been away for several weeks and I LOVE some of the stuff I'm seeing |
| 02:46.48 | AsaPhelps | is your map the contra one skiz? |
| 02:46.53 | MrRoy | Is there a way to kill unitS (plural) from player? Because I'm only finding one unit (I want to kill ALL units from player X) |
| 02:47.38 | RickA | How do I grab the brush for a different tileset than the main on on my map? |
| 02:47.44 | RickA | MrRoy, yes |
| 02:47.55 | MrRoy | What's the trigger |
| 02:47.56 | MrRoy | ? |
| 02:48.03 | RickA | Pick all units owned by player x and kill picked unit |
| 02:48.05 | MrRoy | well the action |
| 02:48.07 | Twiner | is there any way to change the default right click assignment for a specific unit? |
| 02:48.12 | MrRoy | oh, thank you |
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| 02:56.11 | RickA | Ugh, need more ideas for abilities to make. |
| 02:57.38 | Twiner | is there a way to get a count of a unit group? |
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| 02:57.59 | Twiner | as a function in a logic condition |
| 02:58.09 | RickA | Yes |
| 02:58.14 | Twiner | ah found it |
| 02:58.19 | GardenOfAiuyr | anyone know how i can get in touch with the creator of Magical Tower Defense |
| 02:58.25 | Skizot | :( |
| 02:58.28 | Skizot | garden! |
| 02:58.35 | Skizot | i need that psd >_> |
| 02:58.59 | Skizot | i want to update the ingame logo. |
| 02:59.15 | Dustin | damnit skizot |
| 02:59.19 | Dustin | its so fucking hard |
| 02:59.23 | Skizot | :D |
| 02:59.29 | Skizot | what did you want? |
| 02:59.33 | Skizot | mario? |
| 02:59.54 | Dustin | No I wanted Beatable at some point :P |
| 03:00.03 | Skizot | you have 5 lives. |
| 03:00.08 | Skizot | make it happen. |
| 03:00.20 | Dustin | but I die so fast |
| 03:00.25 | Skizot | quick tip: there is a CODE that might help. |
| 03:00.36 | MrRoy | How do I do unit group |
| 03:00.37 | MrRoy | s |
| 03:01.23 | Skizot | you have to type it in. |
| 03:01.24 | MrRoy | I need to do a unit group to kill all units, but I don't have any unit groups |
| 03:01.29 | MrRoy | type it where |
| 03:02.03 | Skizot | not you. |
| 03:02.05 | Skizot | dustin |
| 03:02.08 | MrRoy | oh |
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| 03:02.24 | Dustin | CODE 4 |
| 03:02.28 | Skizot | try a select all units in region matching condition. |
| 03:02.29 | Reactorex | onetwo! :O |
| 03:02.39 | Skizot | dustin pm. |
| 03:02.59 | SixTwo | how can i get the mouse coordinates ? i've managed to get things to happen when i click the mouse, but i need to know the x,y of my mouse when not clicked |
| 03:03.21 | Reactorex | Can't do it. |
| 03:03.33 | Dustin | You cant |
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| 03:03.45 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 03:03.59 | SixTwo | I can't in example have a damage impact happen on a unit thats under my mouse ? |
| 03:04.00 | Skizot | hey sparky. |
| 03:04.07 | Skizot | i published terran conflict. |
| 03:04.19 | Coolflip | nice |
| 03:04.49 | Skizot | do a search in the create game for Terran |
| 03:04.54 | Skizot | capital T |
| 03:05.09 | Coolflip | busy atm, but i will |
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| 03:12.04 | AsaPhelps | ~seen lyrrad |
| 03:12.06 | purl | lyrrad is currently on #sc2mapster (8h 20m 59s). Has said a total of 100 messages. Is idling for 27m 56s, last said: 'Whats the problem now Blayzin, discovered the editor won't restock your fridge?'. |
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| 03:12.32 | ekcolnovkol | o.0 |
| 03:12.32 | Lyrrad | what? |
| 03:12.50 | ekcolnovkol | nothing :x |
| 03:12.52 | ekcolnovkol | don't hurt me |
| 03:13.10 | Lyrrad | Asa is stalking me |
| 03:13.15 | MrRoy | So how do you make a unit group? |
| 03:13.24 | ekcolnovkol | ctrl+# ? |
| 03:13.39 | MrRoy | I mean in the editor |
| 03:13.40 | heysparky | MrRoy, a couple ways |
| 03:13.44 | heysparky | what are you wanting to do? |
| 03:13.54 | MrRoy | Well |
| 03:14.02 | MrRoy | I want to kill all units from unit group owned by player X |
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| 03:14.27 | ekcolnovkol | D: |
| 03:14.59 | heysparky | okay, well, first they need a variable |
| 03:15.19 | heysparky | a variable can be global or local |
| 03:15.40 | heysparky | a local variable is created and usable only within a specific trigger |
| 03:16.23 | heysparky | a global variable is created outside the triggers (like where the triggers are listed, right click to make one) and can be used by any trigger |
| 03:16.38 | MrRoy | Ok, so I want a local variable |
| 03:16.45 | heysparky | right-o |
| 03:16.46 | Dustin | Where does bnet download our maps palyed to |
| 03:17.00 | ekcolnovkol | C:/Sc2beta/maps |
| 03:17.17 | onetwo | wow really? |
| 03:17.21 | heysparky | create it as a unit group, you can define it right there |
| 03:17.24 | onetwo | never knew that |
| 03:17.45 | MrRoy | ya, but how do I add someone's units? |
| 03:17.47 | heysparky | by clicking on the links or double clicking on the text in the little panel |
| 03:17.48 | onetwo | i dont have an Sc2beta folder |
| 03:17.50 | onetwo | ..? |
| 03:17.51 | ekcolnovkol | if you can't find it there, it's probably in documents |
| 03:17.55 | onetwo | oh |
| 03:17.59 | ekcolnovkol | Starcraft II Beta |
| 03:18.00 | ekcolnovkol | ;/ |
| 03:18.00 | onetwo | i thought this was some magical |
| 03:18.02 | onetwo | 2nd folder |
| 03:18.05 | onetwo | separate to documents |
| 03:18.07 | onetwo | for downloaded maps |
| 03:18.16 | ekcolnovkol | you're making fun of me D: |
| 03:18.16 | Sixen | Dustin, they go to Program Data. |
| 03:18.23 | onetwo | im not |
| 03:18.32 | onetwo | i actually believed it was separate to documents one |
| 03:18.53 | Sixen | @Dustin: C:\ProgramData\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache for Vista/7 |
| 03:19.14 | MrRoy | heysparky, what do you mean |
| 03:19.25 | MrRoy | There's initial value : Empty unit group |
| 03:19.27 | MrRoy | that's all |
| 03:19.28 | Dustin | fuck everrything is still cached |
| 03:19.29 | Dustin | Lame |
| 03:19.32 | MrRoy | can't double click or or anything |
| 03:20.40 | ekcolnovkol | i has a question |
| 03:21.10 | ekcolnovkol | is anyone working on an sc2 version of dota that doesn't look ~99% like dota |
| 03:21.34 | Sixen | Dustin: Search for *.s2ma, you'll find the DL'd map :X |
| 03:21.34 | ekcolnovkol | because i was very suprised to see only one published version |
| 03:21.46 | Sixen | Or go through GE. Should have a list of downloaded maps. File > Open > Battle.net tab |
| 03:21.49 | heysparky | MrRoy, you should be able to click on the lage green letters at the bottom or the "Initial: Value" text |
| 03:21.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (~60313557@gateway/web/freenode/x-kesxzdrlaayscbsu) |
| 03:22.07 | heysparky | double-click |
| 03:22.08 | Adjudicator | Sc2 DotA is a huge endeavor, so I don't see it showing up any time soon with just one person working on it |
| 03:22.13 | MrRoy | Oh, had to click on the little green/black box |
| 03:22.24 | Dustin | Oh shit |
| 03:22.32 | Triceron | DOTA isn't gonna be an immediate thing |
| 03:22.35 | ekcolnovkol | the version i saw online burned my eyes |
| 03:22.37 | heysparky | well, technically, no, you don't but if that worked - go with it |
| 03:22.38 | Dustin | You can jsut download them for the editor straight off the fucking bnet |
| 03:22.41 | Dustin | thats sick |
| 03:22.44 | Triceron | even in War3, the concept evolved over years. |
| 03:23.05 | heysparky | the concept is well evolved now |
| 03:23.15 | MrRoy | ok but now how do I make the group with all player X's units? |
| 03:23.16 | heysparky | don't have to create and refine it |
| 03:23.39 | Adjudicator | yes, but will it be just DotA with new skins? Or new heroes, skills, ect? If the latter, then balance changes will take a long time alone |
| 03:23.44 | heysparky | MrRoy: okay, step2, now that you've double clicked, go to functions |
| 03:23.47 | ekcolnovkol | hell no lol |
| 03:23.59 | MrRoy | ya |
| 03:24.04 | ekcolnovkol | i'm just making the map |
| 03:24.19 | ekcolnovkol | and i'm trying to optimize it for a different kind of gameplay |
| 03:24.22 | AsaPhelps | ~seen lyrrad |
| 03:24.23 | purl | lyrrad is currently on #sc2mapster (8h 33m 16s). Has said a total of 102 messages. Is idling for 11m 14s, last said: 'Asa is stalking me'. |
| 03:24.28 | Triceron | well look at DOTA. The most popular series is All Stars; but it's by no means the ONLY DOTA ever made. |
| 03:24.30 | AsaPhelps | uh oh |
| 03:24.33 | Adjudicator | lol |
| 03:24.35 | ekcolnovkol | well yes |
| 03:24.38 | heysparky | and the function you're looking for is 'Units in Region Matching Condition' |
| 03:24.39 | Triceron | there's sooo many variants that spawned off the original |
| 03:24.44 | ekcolnovkol | i |
| 03:24.45 | AsaPhelps | adjud I made a new version if you want to bump it |
| 03:24.50 | ekcolnovkol | am just making a pretty map |
| 03:24.54 | ekcolnovkol | as of now |
| 03:25.05 | ekcolnovkol | but i'm trying to design it to work with a sc2 kind of gameplay |
| 03:25.14 | ekcolnovkol | one that doesn't revolve around a single hero and items |
| 03:25.36 | MrRoy | Ok, I think I got i |
| 03:25.37 | MrRoy | t |
| 03:25.48 | ekcolnovkol | but maintains a similar concept - several checkpoints, upgrades and fairly linear pathing with a final goal at the other corner of the map |
| 03:25.52 | MrRoy | Yeah, thanks a lot! |
| 03:25.59 | Adjudicator | Is anyone developing a version of Line Tower Wars for sc2? |
| 03:26.26 | heysparky | MrRoy... that should work - if it doesn't you may need to use the Set Variable action when you actually run the trigger to capture all the current units |
| 03:26.31 | Adjudicator | I have yet to see a TD with mazing actually |
| 03:26.37 | MrRoy | ok |
| 03:26.44 | heysparky | and sure, np! |
| 03:26.54 | Skizot | what the HELL |
| 03:27.00 | ekcolnovkol | not everyone can figure out how to constrain the footprint to the grid |
| 03:27.01 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 03:27.02 | heysparky | with variables, they grab a value and don't update it until you tell them to do so |
| 03:27.18 | Reactorex | onetwo: hi! |
| 03:27.24 | ekcolnovkol | by the way |
| 03:27.27 | onetwo | hi! Reactorex |
| 03:27.28 | ekcolnovkol | i can't find the tauren marine |
| 03:27.29 | onetwo | did it beep you? |
| 03:27.33 | ekcolnovkol | is there a reason for that? <_< |
| 03:27.44 | Reactorex | I have my volume muted. :o |
| 03:27.54 | Triceron | Tauren marine is in the files? |
| 03:27.55 | Reactorex | I have two computers here. |
| 03:27.57 | Skizot | there is NO way this publisher is working right. |
| 03:27.58 | Reactorex | One that I use for IC... |
| 03:28.03 | Reactorex | IRC* |
| 03:28.07 | Reactorex | And one that I use for everything else. |
| 03:28.10 | Reactorex | Skizot, it's not. |
| 03:28.16 | heysparky | hey, trigger smarties, if I make a function and don't feed it all of the paramaetrs (on purpose) will it flake out on me? |
| 03:28.23 | Reactorex | It's telling me that it failed to upload my map whenever it gets to the header. |
| 03:28.28 | Skizot | i have two maps. both 2-5 megs. |
| 03:28.39 | Skizot | it says i'm using THIRTY TWO MEGS. |
| 03:28.42 | Reactorex | heysparky, it WILL if you don't have any default values for the parameters. |
| 03:28.50 | Martul | :( |
| 03:28.55 | heysparky | okay, and those default values can be null? |
| 03:28.58 | Reactorex | Also, you can only specify the parameters in order. |
| 03:29.18 | Triceron | you should't publish maps so big Skiz |
| 03:29.19 | Reactorex | If you leave out the first parameter, it should wind up erroring on you. |
| 03:29.29 | Reactorex | And in many cases, you can't use null, but sometimes you can. |
| 03:29.30 | heysparky | ah! okay |
| 03:29.44 | Reactorex | If the function you're using allows for null values, then the parameter can default as null. |
| 03:29.46 | heysparky | I'm trying to make a wrapper for objectives |
| 03:30.01 | heysparky | so mostly it'll be text |
| 03:30.06 | Reactorex | Say you've got a function called Kill Unit and uses parameters unit, player, and region. |
| 03:30.06 | heysparky | that I'm fiddling with |
| 03:30.27 | Reactorex | Region is defaulted at whole map area, player is defaulted at Player 1 (Red), and unit is defaulted at No Unit (the preset) |
| 03:31.25 | Martul | :( |
| 03:31.41 | Reactorex | If you only specify two parameters- unit and player- and it does kill all units in unit group (convert unit to unit group - parameter unit) for player (parameter player) using a matching conditions for the region (parameter region), then it would kill them for your player and the unit you selected. |
| 03:31.57 | Skizot | http://i49.tinypic.com/qxqqeu.jpg |
| 03:31.59 | Reactorex | Of course, that's a flawed function already that I just told you, since you specify unit and then player.. should specify unit type and player instead... |
| 03:32.01 | Skizot | that is RETARDED |
| 03:32.06 | Reactorex | But anyways- |
| 03:32.18 | Reactorex | That ignored, it would go ahead and do it in Whole Map Area by default. |
| 03:32.45 | Skizot | i can't even update it |
| 03:32.45 | Reactorex | Using a text-based function as an example... |
| 03:32.47 | Skizot | :( |
| 03:32.49 | heysparky | it sure would be nice to have objective types bundled up\ |
| 03:32.51 | Reactorex | You would want to use the preset for no text. |
| 03:33.18 | Reactorex | So say you've got an ObjectivesHeader function and the parameters are Title and SubTitle. |
| 03:33.25 | Reactorex | SubTitle and Title are both No Text by default. |
| 03:33.52 | Reactorex | You can call ObjectivesHeader("Leetsauce") and it would return "Leetsauce" as a title text that you create via your function. |
| 03:33.55 | MrRoy | heysparky |
| 03:34.04 | heysparky | Yes MrRoy |
| 03:34.17 | Martul | :'( |
| 03:34.24 | MrRoy | It doesn't work, when I'm in game, the trigger happens but the unit group isn't removed |
| 03:34.29 | MrRoy | the trigger looks like this |
| 03:34.45 | MrRoy | Event : Any unit enters region X (condition : owned by player 8P |
| 03:34.46 | Reactorex | Unfortunately, I don't know if Galaxy requires all parameters or not. |
| 03:34.49 | Reactorex | Anyone know? |
| 03:34.50 | MrRoy | then action |
| 03:35.01 | Skizot | something is VERY VERY broken |
| 03:35.02 | Skizot | :( |
| 03:35.06 | MrRoy | Remove all units from VariableX |
| 03:35.14 | MrRoy | the variable is as follow : |
| 03:35.24 | ekcolnovkol | is there a way to duplicate units without having to go into each data type and find a semi-duplicated parameter |
| 03:35.29 | RickA | Is variable x a unit group? |
| 03:35.30 | MrRoy | Any units in (Entire map) owned by player 1 matching Excluded: Dead, with at most Any amount |
| 03:35.36 | MrRoy | did I do anything wrong? |
| 03:35.38 | RickA | You're doing it wrong |
| 03:35.47 | RickA | Remove from group kicks them out of the group, not the map |
| 03:35.48 | Reactorex | ... |
| 03:35.50 | Reactorex | lawl. |
| 03:35.51 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 03:35.52 | Reactorex | xD |
| 03:35.54 | MrRoy | oh |
| 03:35.56 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 03:35.59 | MrRoy | well |
| 03:36.01 | RickA | Pick each in VariableX and do (Remove picked unit) |
| 03:36.01 | Reactorex | Pick all units in unit group VariableX and remove picked unit. |
| 03:36.03 | Reactorex | There ya go :p |
| 03:36.04 | MrRoy | I don't see kill |
| 03:36.21 | heysparky | There is a kill action |
| 03:36.27 | heysparky | it triggers all of the anims and sounds |
| 03:36.31 | heysparky | depends on what you want |
| 03:36.33 | RickA | I've an idea for an ability, but it sounds terribly annoying for the player to do |
| 03:36.36 | heysparky | Thanks ReactorX |
| 03:36.39 | RickA | Anyone want to critique it? |
| 03:36.48 | heysparky | lay it on us RickA |
| 03:37.32 | RickA | Each unit is given some random identifier, right now i'm thinking a name. So a roach can be given the name "Bill Andrews" for lack of a more zerglike name |
| 03:37.47 | RickA | Each time you hit it, a text tag will pop up revealing part of its name |
| 03:37.50 | heysparky | Bihlandroos |
| 03:37.59 | Reactorex | Nice, heysparky. xD |
| 03:38.06 | RickA | If you type out its full name to chat, it gets a debuff |
| 03:38.11 | heysparky | lol |
| 03:38.13 | RickA | Would that be interesting or just plain annoying |
| 03:38.16 | heysparky | Rumplestiltskin! |
| 03:38.25 | Reactorex | If the debuff is worth it, it's interesting. |
| 03:38.38 | Reactorex | It would be fucking annoying if it didn't do what it was worth. |
| 03:38.51 | heysparky | If the debuff is control over the unit you have Named, then awesome! |
| 03:38.51 | ekcolnovkol | question |
| 03:38.52 | Skizot | http://i47.tinypic.com/214umn5.jpg |
| 03:38.54 | RickA | Right now I'm thinking if its 1 letter per hit |
| 03:38.56 | ekcolnovkol | o_O |
| 03:39.00 | Reactorex | Depends on the length of the name in question and the approximate difficulty. |
| 03:39.02 | RickA | It may as well outright kill the unit |
| 03:39.08 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 03:39.08 | RickA | Because you're hitting it 10 times just to get close. |
| 03:39.15 | Skizot | how the FUCK. |
| 03:39.20 | Skizot | like seriously. |
| 03:39.21 | Triceron | is it taking into account your custom models? |
| 03:39.27 | Reactorex | What about buff yourself instead, then? |
| 03:39.28 | Triceron | stuff in your mod folder |
| 03:39.29 | RickA | But yeah, control over it would be a definate positive bonus to it. |
| 03:39.29 | Skizot | my models have no custom textures. |
| 03:39.40 | Triceron | maybe it's duplicating |
| 03:39.46 | Triceron | based on sourcing issues |
| 03:39.48 | Skizot | only two models have textures. |
| 03:39.56 | Triceron | but even then |
| 03:39.59 | Triceron | 30mb makes no sense |
| 03:40.01 | Skizot | it's 5.36... |
| 03:40.06 | Skizot | http://i49.tinypic.com/qxqqeu.jpg |
| 03:40.07 | Skizot | see? |
| 03:40.10 | RickA | Ugh, this sucks. Other than that name thing, I'm out of ideas for abilities for my units, and I'm too lazy to fix the bugs in existing ones. |
| 03:40.14 | Skizot | and there's a 10mb limit. |
| 03:40.19 | Reactorex | Heh. |
| 03:40.22 | Skizot | how the HELL did a 30 mb get by? |
| 03:40.25 | ekcolnovkol | rickA what are you working on |
| 03:40.29 | RickA | RPG |
| 03:40.32 | ekcolnovkol | oh |
| 03:40.33 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 03:40.41 | Reactorex | Do you have a medic-based character? |
| 03:40.49 | Reactorex | There are a lot of ways to manipulate them. >:3 |
| 03:40.50 | RickA | I'm trying to avoid traditional roles |
| 03:40.55 | ekcolnovkol | silly you |
| 03:41.03 | RickA | Like, there's a paladin, but he doesn't tank and he doesn't heal. |
| 03:41.21 | Lyrrad | what does he do then? |
| 03:41.33 | ekcolnovkol | he |
| 03:41.37 | ekcolnovkol | .. |
| 03:41.44 | RickA | The gods aka randomly generated triggers tell him to smite a nearby unit |
| 03:41.48 | ekcolnovkol | fails to think of something witty to say |
| 03:41.56 | RickA | If he fights that unit he gets buffs |
| 03:42.05 | Reactorex | What does he do, then? Hold a book and say "YOUR MOTHER WAS BORN AS A DEFILED BITCH, YOU SHALL BURN IN HELL, [insert rant here]" and by doing so make a unit die from the terrible oncoming rant? |
| 03:42.19 | ekcolnovkol | he floods the screen with text |
| 03:42.22 | ekcolnovkol | o_O |
| 03:42.23 | RickA | That would be an awesome bonus |
| 03:42.24 | Skizot | so the paladin is a evangelist then. |
| 03:42.24 | Martul | :'( |
| 03:42.26 | Reactorex | ... sounds very similar. |
| 03:42.34 | RickA | I record a sermon and make it one of his pissed files |
| 03:42.43 | RickA | Similar to what? |
| 03:42.45 | Reactorex | XDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 03:42.50 | Reactorex | What he does right noiw. |
| 03:42.53 | Reactorex | To what I wrote. |
| 03:42.54 | Reactorex | :P |
| 03:42.57 | RickA | Oh, yeah. |
| 03:43.05 | Martul | is a sad panda |
| 03:43.11 | RickA | My friends once tried to get me to record a sermon about SC2 |
| 03:43.16 | RickA | Er, SC1 actually |
| 03:43.18 | Reactorex | LAWL |
| 03:43.48 | RickA | I was gathering ideas about how Mutalisks are winged angels, but you should beware of hydralisks, they might fall to the devil, become lurkers, and begin a quest to join him in hell by burrowing. |
| 03:43.50 | Reactorex | Your paladin is now called "Bill Gates Jr." |
| 03:43.56 | Reactorex | His shoes are now DIAMONDS. |
| 03:44.15 | Reactorex | I'm on a horse. |
| 03:44.16 | ekcolnovkol | MORE TREES |
| 03:44.21 | Reactorex | And so is your paladin. |
| 03:44.21 | ekcolnovkol | MUST PLANT MORE TREES AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 03:44.34 | RickA | Still, I do need more ideas for abilities/heroes |
| 03:44.37 | Reactorex | ekcolnovkol, are you OK? |
| 03:44.38 | ekcolnovkol | badabadabadabadabadabada |
| 03:44.46 | ekcolnovkol | my laptop is burning my lap |
| 03:44.54 | ekcolnovkol | because it was not designed for this |
| 03:44.54 | heysparky | is there a variable or filter of some kind for race? zerg, protoss? |
| 03:45.25 | Reactorex | Yeah... |
| 03:45.32 | Reactorex | Depends on how you want to use it... |
| 03:45.38 | ekcolnovkol | but, really, sc2editor only permits 4 levels of elevation? |
| 03:45.41 | Adjudicator | Has anyone seen this thread yet? This Frank Pearce guy sounds like an asshole |
| 03:45.43 | Adjudicator | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170606873&sid=5000 |
| 03:46.50 | ekcolnovkol | i love how planting doodads is like firing a machine gun |
| 03:47.57 | onetwo | yeah adjunidactor i was ranting about it earlier |
| 03:48.02 | onetwo | and the response on the d3 forums |
| 03:48.03 | onetwo | from bashiok |
| 03:48.05 | onetwo | is good too |
| 03:48.09 | Cromalic | anyone familiar with the launch missile effect? |
| 03:48.12 | Martul | :'( |
| 03:48.23 | onetwo | i didnt realize frank pearce is a VP of blizzard |
| 03:48.36 | RickA | Cro, a little bit |
| 03:48.45 | onetwo | the* |
| 03:48.54 | heysparky | wow, quite a thread |
| 03:48.58 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:49.04 | onetwo | the one on team liquid has 50,000 views in a couple hours |
| 03:49.08 | onetwo | well more than couple |
| 03:49.13 | Cromalic | well |
| 03:49.24 | Lyrrad | I didn't read past the first page, but what did he say that was assholic? |
| 03:49.31 | Cromalic | i'm trying to make one that doesn't require a targeting ability |
| 03:49.32 | Cromalic | that is |
| 03:49.37 | Cromalic | i want to push a button |
| 03:49.42 | Cromalic | and trigger the launch missile effect |
| 03:49.47 | Cromalic | problem now is that the missile dies instantly |
| 03:49.48 | onetwo | normally i dont want to take sides, but if you read his interview |
| 03:49.51 | onetwo | its very negative |
| 03:49.53 | Cromalic | ontop of the unit |
| 03:49.55 | onetwo | and sort of attitiudy |
| 03:49.59 | onetwo | not what you want from a developer |
| 03:50.05 | Cromalic | know how i can make the target further out? |
| 03:50.13 | onetwo | but the gist that pissed people off |
| 03:50.22 | onetwo | is that he just do people really want chat channels |
| 03:50.24 | onetwo | or something like that |
| 03:50.24 | Martul | :( |
| 03:50.27 | onetwo | like he blindly has no idea |
| 03:50.33 | onetwo | sorry cromalic im taking up your space |
| 03:50.35 | onetwo | with my spam |
| 03:50.45 | onetwo | i dont know but maybe someone else does |
| 03:50.45 | Cromalic | np :p |
| 03:50.50 | Adjudicator | onetwo I love the instant meme that thread created |
| 03:50.54 | Adjudicator | do you REALLY want chat rooms? xD |
| 03:50.55 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 03:50.58 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 03:51.04 | Insaneelite | But the question is. |
| 03:51.05 | Cromalic | any idea RickA? |
| 03:51.08 | Insaneelite | Do you really want chat rooms? |
| 03:51.17 | RickA | Myself, no. I've seen maps that do it, though. |
| 03:51.17 | Adjudicator | xDDD |
| 03:51.27 | RickA | I've got at least one with me |
| 03:51.33 | Insaneelite | Yeah that guy has no idea what he's talking about. |
| 03:51.40 | RickA | Top Down Fighters does it I thnk |
| 03:51.57 | Insaneelite | It's weird though. |
| 03:52.11 | Insaneelite | Back in March Dustin Browder said we'd be getting chat channels, now we're not? |
| 03:52.13 | RickA | Search for that map |
| 03:52.15 | RickA | And rip it off |
| 03:52.18 | onetwo | like i saw a thread that said there needs to stop being 35-40 year olds developing games when they are out of touch; but in reality we all know they play and some are pretty good |
| 03:52.21 | onetwo | so thats not the issue |
| 03:52.22 | Cromalic | no it doesn't ricka :( |
| 03:52.29 | onetwo | i believe the issue is who's giving the orders and priorities |
| 03:52.29 | RickA | You sure? |
| 03:52.31 | onetwo | is at fault |
| 03:52.35 | Cromalic | well |
| 03:52.39 | Twiner | is there any way to wait until a unit completes an ordeR? |
| 03:52.46 | Cromalic | what top down fighters does is have you click a target position |
| 03:52.48 | Insaneelite | Eh. |
| 03:52.50 | Cromalic | that gives you a target point |
| 03:52.50 | onetwo | apparently not insaneelite |
| 03:52.54 | Lyrrad | 35 - 40 year olds are amoung the original computer gamers |
| 03:52.58 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:52.59 | onetwo | exactly |
| 03:52.59 | RickA | Twiner: There's a "unit becomes idle" condition |
| 03:53.05 | RickA | event, not condition |
| 03:53.08 | Cromalic | i mean i just want to press a key, and have the launch missile get launched in the direction the unit is facing |
| 03:53.15 | RickA | But if you shift queue stuff, it wouldn't work |
| 03:53.21 | Cromalic | but it seems the launch missile requires a target impact |
| 03:53.28 | Twiner | that wont work because in combat, you'd use your ability, and then the unit would immediately begin doing something, so its never idle |
| 03:53.32 | RickA | I know I've played one like that cro |
| 03:53.37 | RickA | But I don't think its on my drive anymore |
| 03:53.38 | onetwo | i really think it was just the way frank said the stuff |
| 03:53.39 | RickA | I'll look |
| 03:53.40 | onetwo | that pissed people off |
| 03:53.45 | Insaneelite | Yeah. |
| 03:53.49 | onetwo | because theyve already been in a bad mood |
| 03:53.52 | Insaneelite | He sounded really conceited. |
| 03:53.58 | Cromalic | ok RickA, thx :) |
| 03:54.06 | Adjudicator | it seems as if they're not really listening to their community at all -- they have a set goal, and they'll be damned if someone alters their path |
| 03:54.10 | Reactorex | Question: |
| 03:54.14 | RickA | I have a filed called Gauntlet_Fury_Map1 that does it |
| 03:54.21 | Insaneelite | I'm curious as to what they'll be doing during the downtime. |
| 03:54.21 | heysparky | I'm not sure how it breaks down authority wise, but chat rooms would be bnet, yeah? Browder is Lead Designer on the game. If there was a clash or a decision, not sure who gets to make the final call. Maybe this Pearce guy. |
| 03:54.24 | Reactorex | Where can I find those two paste documents that have all the data from the .galaxy files for what can be used in galaxy scripting? |
| 03:54.26 | RickA | I can send you the file directly or you can search for it |
| 03:54.30 | onetwo | and maybe were wrong, maybe in a few months when they implement something better than we thought, maybe we'll see... but right now... |
| 03:54.36 | onetwo | its different |
| 03:54.41 | Insaneelite | Pearce is Senior VP or something at Blizzard, so yeah. |
| 03:54.45 | Cromalic | ricka is it on mapster? |
| 03:54.47 | Insaneelite | He was one of the founders. |
| 03:54.49 | RickA | should be |
| 03:54.54 | onetwo | from what i hear, they have xbox live guy who designed bnet 2.0, dustin does game stuff |
| 03:54.54 | Cromalic | i'll search |
| 03:54.59 | onetwo | and then of course VP and president of blizzard |
| 03:55.00 | Insaneelite | Yep. |
| 03:55.03 | onetwo | handle ideas too |
| 03:55.10 | Dustin | I do? |
| 03:55.21 | onetwo | thats whats scary is that frank is an oldtimer for blizzard |
| 03:55.25 | onetwo | if anyone should be on our side |
| 03:55.26 | Insaneelite | Greg Canessa is project director, he worked on Xbox Live too. |
| 03:55.27 | onetwo | it should be him and morhaime |
| 03:55.35 | onetwo | and metzen |
| 03:55.38 | Insaneelite | Morhaime's busy dealing with Korean e-sports and stuff. |
| 03:55.40 | Cromalic | found it RickA |
| 03:55.40 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 03:55.42 | Adjudicator | god, I can't even imagine SC2 beta before realizing that there's a SC2 related irc channel.. before, it was just.. log on.. play a few games.. meet no one.. log off. I've met so many new people just because of this chat. Yes, I REALLY want a chat! |
| 03:55.42 | Cromalic | i'll check it out now |
| 03:55.48 | Cromalic | hope i find something :) |
| 03:55.49 | Insaneelite | Metzen is doing WoW stuff half the time. |
| 03:55.53 | onetwo | of course |
| 03:55.58 | onetwo | imagine a sc2mapster chat channel |
| 03:56.00 | onetwo | how much that would be nice |
| 03:56.02 | onetwo | ingame testing maps |
| 03:56.03 | onetwo | go to the channel |
| 03:56.05 | Martul | :( |
| 03:56.06 | Adjudicator | sc2mapster clan >.> |
| 03:56.06 | onetwo | check for people |
| 03:56.07 | onetwo | etc |
| 03:56.11 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 03:56.20 | Insaneelite | I am hoping that Blizzard finally sees our concerns though. |
| 03:56.25 | Reactorex | >.> |
| 03:56.27 | onetwo | we know blizzard though, they will do something |
| 03:56.33 | onetwo | and plain old chat channels arent good enough i guess |
| 03:56.37 | ekcolnovkol | before that i hope they unnerf roaches |
| 03:56.38 | Insaneelite | I'm a bit hopeful because mods were pouncing around as soon as the interview was posted, and keeping it to one thread. |
| 03:56.38 | onetwo | if they came back, i think we'd be let down |
| 03:56.39 | ekcolnovkol | ;< |
| 03:56.44 | onetwo | theyll probably have something better |
| 03:56.55 | Insaneelite | Browder said they wanted less spammy general channels and stuff more specific. |
| 03:57.00 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:57.04 | onetwo | otherwise we'll link them http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/mission.html |
| 03:57.11 | onetwo | "Blizzard polishâ doesnât just refer to our gameplay experiences, but to every aspect of our jobs. We approach each task carefully and seriously. We seek honest feedback and use it to improve the quality of our work. At the end of the day, most players wonât remember whether the game was late -- only whether it was great. |
| 03:57.15 | Adjudicator | I bet they must be REALLY agitated with channel bots and spammers to be so adamantly against chat channels |
| 03:57.16 | Twiner | blah I need a condition |
| 03:57.20 | ekcolnovkol | roaches are an endangered species, in that roach reproduct declined 50% within the week |
| 03:57.27 | ekcolnovkol | D; |
| 03:57.29 | Insaneelite | I was just thinking a channel for each league, the general race strategies, a map making channel, dunno what else. |
| 03:57.44 | SixTwo | spam channel |
| 03:57.48 | Insaneelite | Heh |
| 03:57.56 | onetwo | spam channel would be empty |
| 03:57.57 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:58.00 | heysparky | HiveMind |
| 03:58.01 | onetwo | perfect place for real chatters to go |
| 03:58.04 | Insaneelite | Although spam won't be as bad on SC2 as on SC1 and WC3. |
| 03:58.14 | Cromalic | bah |
| 03:58.23 | Cromalic | RickA: it seems he's using triggers for the moving missile |
| 03:58.26 | Cromalic | not the data editor |
| 03:58.29 | Cromalic | thanks anyway though |
| 03:58.52 | Martul | :( |
| 03:59.12 | Cromalic | you like emotes, huh Martul? :P |
| 03:59.19 | Alpha_vst | I DO :D |
| 03:59.26 | Martul | <--- :( |
| 03:59.28 | Alpha_vst | ok maybe not |
| 03:59.29 | Cromalic | :D |
| 04:00.27 | Reactorex | Everyone here is a geek at heart. [...] action figures with the kung-fu gripâ¦. |
| 04:00.27 | ekcolnovkol | how do you make something accelerate in the game |
| 04:00.27 | Reactorex | Copies from the mission.html page... |
| 04:00.27 | Reactorex | Kung-Fu grip.... |
| 04:00.27 | Reactorex | I has it. >:3 |
| 04:00.27 | SixTwo | whats the diff between modal dialog and non-modal ? |
| 04:00.27 | SixTwo | they seem the same |
| 04:00.27 | ekcolnovkol | anyone? :u |
| 04:00.28 | Reactorex | onetwo: Your turn. |
| 04:00.30 | Corosus | modal = forced closed before window below it can be clicked |
| 04:00.31 | Reactorex | SixTwo asked a question you mentioned in one of your tutorials. xD |
| 04:00.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Curt`` (~DorkeyDea@75.10.132.211) |
| 04:00.43 | ekcolnovkol | me? |
| 04:00.45 | Corosus | clicked aka have focus |
| 04:00.47 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:00.51 | onetwo | hahah |
| 04:00.54 | ekcolnovkol | D: |
| 04:00.58 | Cromalic | i guess i could ask rrowland |
| 04:01.00 | onetwo | well see i thought modal meant it blocks all other clicking |
| 04:01.05 | SixTwo | onetwo has tutorials ? damn it can't be, I am the superior one here |
| 04:01.05 | Cromalic | he does it somewhat in reaper madness i think |
| 04:01.26 | ekcolnovkol | :< |
| 04:01.27 | onetwo | yeah modal means sort of like on top |
| 04:01.30 | Alpha_vst | GAH |
| 04:01.31 | onetwo | only control |
| 04:01.34 | Reactorex | Waaaait... |
| 04:01.35 | Alpha_vst | WHY WONT THIS WORK |
| 04:01.36 | onetwo | non modal is for like an action bar |
| 04:01.36 | SixTwo | kkcheers Corosus |
| 04:01.37 | onetwo | or something |
| 04:01.40 | Reactorex | Rowland did Reaper Madniess? |
| 04:01.42 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:01.44 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 04:01.45 | SixTwo | and you too onetwo |
| 04:01.47 | Reactorex | crap. |
| 04:01.59 | Corosus | :D |
| 04:02.00 | Martul | :( |
| 04:02.00 | Alpha_vst | hes pretty smart :P |
| 04:02.01 | onetwo | cheers to me? |
| 04:02.05 | Reactorex | Now I know how far behind I am. xD |
| 04:02.09 | SixTwo | for explanation |
| 04:02.12 | onetwo | hes not just Rowland... hes R Rowland |
| 04:02.13 | onetwo | oh np |
| 04:02.21 | Reactorex | No, OneTwo. |
| 04:02.26 | Reactorex | He's R W Rowland. |
| 04:02.27 | onetwo | and hes rollin....d |
| 04:02.29 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:02.37 | Reactorex | I have him as a real friend :D |
| 04:02.44 | Reactorex | Err |
| 04:02.44 | ekcolnovkol | how the hell |
| 04:02.45 | ekcolnovkol | did he do that |
| 04:02.46 | ekcolnovkol | o_O |
| 04:02.47 | Reactorex | RealID Friend |
| 04:02.48 | Reactorex | xD |
| 04:02.49 | ekcolnovkol | actionbars and all |
| 04:02.55 | onetwo | with all the money i make from making maps im going to go cruising in an escalade with rrowland |
| 04:02.59 | Reactorex | Not too hard, ekcolnovkol :D |
| 04:03.00 | Cromalic | is Reaper Madness a downloadable map somewhere? |
| 04:03.19 | onetwo | you can see my WoW map ekcolnovkol |
| 04:03.21 | onetwo | if you havent ye |
| 04:03.22 | onetwo | yet |
| 04:03.25 | onetwo | i made a ton of dialog related |
| 04:03.28 | onetwo | UI stuff |
| 04:03.32 | threefour | bow down onetwo ! |
| 04:03.37 | onetwo | QUIET 34 |
| 04:03.49 | threefour | but I am the superior one :( |
| 04:03.53 | ekcolnovkol | sure |
| 04:03.57 | onetwo | yeah, and im the superior one, two |
| 04:04.05 | ekcolnovkol | is he targeting with the mouse? |
| 04:04.06 | threefour | damn it good one |
| 04:04.30 | onetwo | there you go ekcol |
| 04:04.31 | onetwo | http://www.wikiupload.com/ZTkeUNJa |
| 04:04.47 | onetwo | damn |
| 04:04.49 | onetwo | sixtwo again |
| 04:05.22 | Reactorex | Question. :o |
| 04:05.24 | SixTwo | no u |
| 04:05.25 | onetwo | yeah? |
| 04:05.33 | ekcolnovkol | nobody answers my questions q_q |
| 04:05.46 | Alpha_vst | u have funny name |
| 04:05.51 | Alpha_vst | thats why |
| 04:05.54 | ekcolnovkol | :< |
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| 04:06.13 | Reactorex | Anyone know where the galaxy thing is that was on the sc2mapster pastes with all the functions and stuff for Galaxy? |
| 04:06.20 | onetwo | haha a new post on general forums now about signing a petition for chat channels |
| 04:06.24 | onetwo | its growing in pages |
| 04:06.30 | onetwo | sorry reactorex i dont :( |
| 04:06.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dark`Work (~electra@adsl-75-10-132-211.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:06.51 | Adjudicator | I've signed it xd |
| 04:06.55 | SixTwo | milky way editor you mean Reactorex ? |
| 04:06.58 | Adjudicator | and posted a melodramatic monologue too |
| 04:07.16 | Martul | :( |
| 04:07.30 | Reactorex | Nope, SixTwo. |
| 04:07.36 | onetwo | yeah? |
| 04:07.37 | Reactorex | A list of all functions and stuff for Galaxy. |
| 04:08.10 | onetwo | hahah the general forums are getting hilarious |
| 04:08.11 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170837182&sid=5000 |
| 04:08.16 | onetwo | "I bet nethaera smells like fart" |
| 04:08.17 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 04:08.41 | onetwo | so bad |
| 04:08.57 | onetwo | so reactorex i guess i gotta churn out an infection now |
| 04:09.01 | onetwo | that the beta part 1 ends in a week |
| 04:09.03 | onetwo | instead of 2 days |
| 04:09.09 | Reactorex | :P |
| 04:09.13 | onetwo | and i wish i could help you |
| 04:09.16 | onetwo | more with galaxy |
| 04:09.18 | Reactorex | I just found them. |
| 04:09.19 | Reactorex | ^^ |
| 04:09.22 | onetwo | but ive kind of strictly stayed with triggers |
| 04:09.26 | Reactorex | After an hour and a half of searching. :O |
| 04:09.37 | onetwo | i dont know why, im a programmer but i prefer triggers |
| 04:09.38 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:09.45 | RickA | I know what you mean onetwo |
| 04:09.46 | Reactorex | See, I ahve to completely rewrite my trigger-based engine. |
| 04:09.49 | Adjudicator | What did Nethara do that was so bad? |
| 04:09.53 | onetwo | nothing |
| 04:09.55 | Reactorex | I'm making the switch to Galaxy. |
| 04:09.55 | onetwo | theyre just pissy |
| 04:09.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster TC-Away (~Thunder_C@WoWUIDev/PITA/TC) |
| 04:10.01 | onetwo | oh and reactorex |
| 04:10.07 | Adjudicator | they should direct their anger at Frank Pearce |
| 04:10.15 | onetwo | instead of doing period every 2 secs, check a player leaves, am i better off doing a while loop and waiting 2 secs? |
| 04:10.17 | onetwo | for thread count? |
| 04:10.21 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 04:10.24 | heysparky | is ANY water pathable? |
| 04:10.26 | onetwo | or is it fine since im doing every 2 seconds |
| 04:10.29 | Insaneelite | Frank Pearce for that crappy interview, Greg Canessa for Battle.net 2.0. |
| 04:10.31 | Reactorex | And I found the solution to your player 16 thing. :3 |
| 04:10.41 | onetwo | oh? |
| 04:10.43 | Adjudicator | I thought Canessa was fired? |
| 04:10.47 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:10.50 | Insaneelite | I'm not sure right now. |
| 04:10.50 | Adjudicator | Some Lead Producer was fired for BNET 2 |
| 04:10.54 | Insaneelite | He's Project Director IIRC. |
| 04:10.54 | onetwo | when? |
| 04:11.12 | Adjudicator | not sure when, but they recently posted a job opening for that position |
| 04:11.13 | onetwo | haha they fired the guy who was going to put in chat channels and clan |
| 04:11.14 | Reactorex | Store the owner of the killing unit in a variable at the start of the trigger and use variable to aware score. |
| 04:11.17 | Adjudicator | lol |
| 04:11.26 | Reactorex | Or if it's cast with fungal, |
| 04:11.29 | Insaneelite | They have an opening for a Social Systems and Features Designer. |
| 04:11.31 | Reactorex | Owner of casting unit if it kills. |
| 04:11.42 | onetwo | im amazed someone hasnt done a remix of that Hitler thing yelling for chat channels |
| 04:11.47 | onetwo | and complaingin about facebook |
| 04:11.54 | Martul | :( |
| 04:11.57 | Reactorex | ... |
| 04:12.00 | Reactorex | Now that I think about it.. |
| 04:12.01 | onetwo | oh so it was fungal |
| 04:12.05 | Reactorex | I saw a hell of a lot of those a while ago. |
| 04:12.06 | Adjudicator | lol I know which one you're talking about onetwo |
| 04:12.09 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:12.10 | Reactorex | And now I don't see any. |
| 04:12.19 | onetwo | i actually saw the real movie that its from for my euro-film class last term |
| 04:12.20 | Insaneelite | They already did one on not getting a beta key. |
| 04:12.21 | onetwo | its meh |
| 04:12.42 | onetwo | reactorex: it was fungal growth trigger? |
| 04:13.00 | onetwo | store "damaging unit" as a variable |
| 04:13.06 | onetwo | and award it in actions to that variable? |
| 04:13.11 | Insaneelite | I do like how everybody was suddenly saying how much Dustin Browder and the actual game that is SC2 rocks as soon as they realized Browder wasn't designing B.net 2.0. |
| 04:13.15 | onetwo | because when i tested it with computers it worked fine... |
| 04:13.18 | onetwo | not sure why ingame it bugged out |
| 04:13.27 | onetwo | hAHAH |
| 04:13.41 | onetwo | well the whining was about the game before |
| 04:13.42 | Reactorex | Well, onetwo- |
| 04:13.44 | onetwo | but never to this degree |
| 04:13.46 | Reactorex | It's when the unit dies. |
| 04:13.49 | Reactorex | Not when it gets cast on. |
| 04:13.55 | onetwo | i actually do the action |
| 04:13.57 | onetwo | err |
| 04:13.57 | Martul | :'( |
| 04:13.58 | onetwo | the event |
| 04:14.00 | Reactorex | It's not the growth trigger. |
| 04:14.01 | onetwo | on when a unit is damaged |
| 04:14.03 | onetwo | oh? |
| 04:14.06 | onetwo | OH really? |
| 04:14.16 | Reactorex | Your thing checks when something gets killed, remember? |
| 04:14.19 | onetwo | because we never had the bug before |
| 04:14.22 | Reactorex | It tries to factor it into that, too :P |
| 04:14.23 | onetwo | and the only new trigger is fungal |
| 04:14.35 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:14.42 | onetwo | wait |
| 04:14.42 | Reactorex | Before, I never saw someone die to fungal. |
| 04:14.43 | onetwo | hmm |
| 04:14.45 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:14.47 | onetwo | i think i did |
| 04:14.53 | Reactorex | It only happens on death with fungal. |
| 04:14.55 | Reactorex | Not on cast. |
| 04:14.57 | onetwo | oh k |
| 04:14.58 | onetwo | i see |
| 04:15.04 | onetwo | that makes sense |
| 04:15.08 | Reactorex | Mhm. |
| 04:15.09 | onetwo | so its trying to award stuff to the killer |
| 04:15.11 | onetwo | which is no player |
| 04:15.15 | Reactorex | Mhm. |
| 04:15.17 | onetwo | 8 secs later |
| 04:15.21 | onetwo | because of my Wait |
| 04:15.24 | onetwo | ah |
| 04:15.25 | Reactorex | Store the owner of the unit casting fungal at the start. |
| 04:15.28 | Reactorex | Then do it. |
| 04:15.40 | Reactorex | Use a local variable to do that, or it'll screw up :P |
| 04:15.59 | Reactorex | And yeah, I'd still suggest switching over to a while. |
| 04:16.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster O_ (~d33f4cce@gateway/web/freenode/x-sfoaofxxtqkkzzks) |
| 04:16.36 | Reactorex | Your system doesn't use anything akin to a WASD, but it still saves map resources. |
| 04:17.00 | O_ | FDD |
| 04:17.04 | O_ | OH~ |
| 04:17.36 | Reactorex | Anyone think there'll be a way to play together after the beta shuts down? |
| 04:17.59 | onetwo | im sure there will |
| 04:18.04 | onetwo | i dont know if ill do it though |
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| 04:18.06 | onetwo | im fine just editing |
| 04:18.22 | Reactorex | I'm going to need multi-player testing :P |
| 04:18.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnovkol (ekcolnovko@pool-98-116-32-71.nycmny.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:18.36 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 04:19.04 | Reactorex | Fortunately and unfortunately alike, my RPD doesn't have a fanbase yet. |
| 04:19.37 | ekcolnovkol | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.42 | Reactorex | No. |
| 04:19.45 | ekcolnovkol | o.o |
| 04:19.45 | Reactorex | RPD. |
| 04:19.57 | ekcolnovkol | role playing dragon? |
| 04:20.08 | onetwo | reactorex you have me as insta fan |
| 04:20.09 | Martul | :'( |
| 04:20.14 | Reactorex | Role play domain. My way of saying RP map. |
| 04:20.21 | Insaneelite | Oh man, RP maps. |
| 04:20.23 | Twiner | hmmm |
| 04:20.25 | onetwo | there was lots of cool RP maps in war3 |
| 04:20.31 | onetwo | they died though with the DOTA train |
| 04:20.31 | Twiner | my right click control system isn't working |
| 04:20.34 | Insaneelite | I wonder if they'll be like SC1 where there was 10 billion or like 10 in WC3. |
| 04:20.35 | onetwo | that happened mid frozen throne |
| 04:21.00 | Reactorex | All of the RP maps were already blown away with Motive's Cortex engine and are only on par with my half-developed RPD. |
| 04:21.13 | Motive | xD |
| 04:21.14 | Motive | <3 |
| 04:21.29 | Reactorex | SC2 made making RP maps so fucking simple. |
| 04:21.46 | Motive | SC2 will be about flexibility more than features. |
| 04:21.55 | Motive | The ability to use commands the way you want to, rather than the way the map makers wanted you to. |
| 04:21.57 | Martul | :'( |
| 04:22.05 | Reactorex | I spent barely any time while I was developing my map (save for working out dynamic armor) and its engine powned the WC3 ones with no difficulty. |
| 04:22.09 | Motive | It's like Burger King. |
| 04:22.13 | Motive | Have it your way! |
| 04:22.15 | Reactorex | Indeed. |
| 04:22.23 | Twiner | I wish you could lock selection |
| 04:22.27 | Insaneelite | Blah |
| 04:22.29 | Motive | You can. |
| 04:22.30 | Motive | :P |
| 04:22.35 | Twiner | how? |
| 04:22.39 | Insaneelite | And I'm just doing a loose remake of an old SC1 zombie map. |
| 04:22.40 | Twiner | I can't find an action for it |
| 04:22.41 | Motive | If they select another, re-select it |
| 04:22.47 | Motive | there's no "lock", just work around it |
| 04:22.47 | Twiner | thats not locking selection |
| 04:22.57 | Motive | or you can make other units unselectable entirely |
| 04:22.58 | Reactorex | That's the same thing essentially. |
| 04:22.58 | Motive | there's a flag for it |
| 04:23.09 | Twiner | hmm, i suppose I could do that for all units |
| 04:23.41 | Twiner | hmm, you would still be able to select other players units though |
| 04:23.51 | Reactorex | Why? |
| 04:23.56 | onetwo | who else remembers this |
| 04:23.57 | onetwo | -save |
| 04:23.59 | Motive | me |
| 04:24.01 | Reactorex | LAWL yes. |
| 04:24.06 | onetwo | -load SDAS3-SDA2M-9343jk |
| 04:24.08 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 04:24.11 | Motive | <3 banks |
| 04:24.11 | Motive | :P |
| 04:24.15 | Reactorex | I've already redesigned those ten thousand times over in my head since sc2. |
| 04:24.16 | Motive | it'll be like |
| 04:24.18 | onetwo | but still |
| 04:24.22 | onetwo | we have to save the numbers into banks |
| 04:24.22 | Motive | -save char1 |
| 04:24.25 | onetwo | with that format |
| 04:24.25 | onetwo | to prevent tampering |
| 04:24.25 | Motive | -load char1 |
| 04:24.26 | Motive | now |
| 04:24.33 | Reactorex | You'll still have those really confusing codes, but you don't have to load them like that. |
| 04:24.40 | onetwo | you know like instead of just saving hero level as "15", scramble it into letters and division crap |
| 04:24.47 | onetwo | to be like HSD4 |
| 04:24.55 | onetwo | that the player will never see this time |
| 04:24.56 | onetwo | luckily |
| 04:25.08 | onetwo | Motive I would just make a dialog |
| 04:25.13 | onetwo | loop through number of chars saved in their back |
| 04:25.14 | Reactorex | Eh. |
| 04:25.15 | onetwo | make as many buttons |
| 04:25.17 | Reactorex | I prefer chat system. :P |
| 04:25.18 | onetwo | as needed |
| 04:25.21 | Motive | That works too |
| 04:25.26 | Reactorex | But a mix of chat and AI is better. |
| 04:25.27 | onetwo | but people love GUIs |
| 04:25.30 | onetwo | non-developers |
| 04:25.31 | onetwo | love GUIs |
| 04:25.37 | Motive | fuck non-developers |
| 04:25.39 | Reactorex | Whatever's the fastest and most efficient, IMO. |
| 04:25.40 | Motive | developers are awesome |
| 04:25.41 | Motive | LOL |
| 04:25.42 | onetwo | like if GUI was a woman |
| 04:25.43 | onetwo | ill stop |
| 04:25.45 | Reactorex | If you can make it faster with chat, you win. |
| 04:25.53 | Reactorex | If you can make certain parts faster with AI, go that way. |
| 04:26.01 | onetwo | hey reactorex |
| 04:26.02 | Reactorex | UI* |
| 04:26.05 | onetwo | i was thinking of asking GUI out to the prom |
| 04:26.06 | Reactorex | My example... |
| 04:26.07 | onetwo | should i do it? |
| 04:26.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ResNet-42-139.resnet.ucsb.edu) |
| 04:26.12 | Reactorex | lawl, no thanks. |
| 04:26.17 | Reactorex | Don't. |
| 04:26.24 | onetwo | but its graphical |
| 04:26.52 | onetwo | right now Sixen is regretting he ever invited me here |
| 04:27.02 | Reactorex | It's too demanding, confusing, has no idea what it's doing half the time, it can't function for shit unless you slap it up the ass, it gets a divide by 0 error if you use too much force, and the only bonus is a very boxy look. Oh, hey, it's Boxxy! |
| 04:27.03 | onetwo | him and Frank pearce are having a beer together |
| 04:27.06 | Martul | :'( |
| 04:28.03 | Insaneelite | Sixen is actually playing B.net 3.0 right now. |
| 04:28.41 | Reactorex | Lucky... |
| 04:28.45 | Reactorex | Or is it? |
| 04:28.54 | Reactorex | It might be his torture that he gets for being so loved. |
| 04:29.09 | Insaneelite | When he saw it, his eyes melted out of his skull. Then B.net 3.0 gave him new eyes because it's that awesome. |
| 04:29.24 | Martul | :'( |
| 04:29.42 | Reactorex | Are you sure "because it's that awesome"? Or because it's that demanding and requires specific system specs even on humans now? |
| 04:29.46 | wacko | waffles |
| 04:29.53 | Reactorex | :P |
| 04:29.59 | onetwo | if its built into me |
| 04:30.03 | Insaneelite | Trust me. |
| 04:30.07 | onetwo | i want achievement 1 to be go to store and buy starcraft 7 |
| 04:30.11 | Insaneelite | Once you fuse with the core of B.net 3.0, it doesn't matter. |
| 04:30.23 | Reactorex | Of course. |
| 04:30.39 | Reactorex | It'll be more of a permanent installation than getting Wife 1.0. |
| 04:30.43 | Insaneelite | You are above mere mortality. You crush small African villages with one hand and then rebuild it. |
| 04:31.20 | Reactorex | For that matter, more permanent than even the deadly Windows virus or the Norton Anti-Virus virus. |
| 04:31.46 | Martul | :'( |
| 04:31.53 | Ksib | http://tinyurl.com/Starcraft2Chatroom |
| 04:32.01 | Reactorex | Martul, WHY is that the only thing you've said in the last four hours? |
| 04:32.15 | Martul | Reason: Blizzard |
| 04:32.32 | Reactorex | Specific Reason: QQ. |
| 04:32.40 | Twiner | yeah... |
| 04:32.41 | Reactorex | Or do you care to specify? :P |
| 04:32.46 | Twiner | my selection lock doesn't work... |
| 04:33.11 | wacko | ? |
| 04:33.23 | Martul | Blizzard failed in at least 2 things in the editor (I've only found 2 so far, I'm sure there is many more) |
| 04:33.43 | Reactorex | Twiner, did you initialize your intended selection to a unit group? |
| 04:33.52 | Twiner | ? |
| 04:33.59 | wacko | Martul |
| 04:34.02 | Reactorex | Make a unit group variable with array size 15. |
| 04:34.02 | wacko | what did they fail in ? |
| 04:34.10 | Reactorex | Or however many players you want. |
| 04:34.13 | Reactorex | 8 if you want 8 players, etc. |
| 04:34.48 | Martul | well one is the fact that you are unable to override files in the mpq using imports |
| 04:35.26 | wacko | what do you want to override ? |
| 04:35.26 | onetwo | that totally sounds like blayzin |
| 04:35.28 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:35.47 | onetwo | yay new tutorial will be out in an hour or two |
| 04:35.52 | Sixen | Sixen is busy making Battle.net 9.9 |
| 04:36.06 | Reactorex | Sixen? |
| 04:36.07 | Insaneelite | WTF. |
| 04:36.11 | Reactorex | I'd rather have a Battle.net 6.9 :) |
| 04:36.21 | Sixen | :P |
| 04:36.25 | Reactorex | xD |
| 04:36.26 | Martul | wacko, doesn't matter since its not possible to override mpq files |
| 04:36.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster `3ICE (~3ice@dsl4E5C73A8.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 04:36.38 | Insaneelite | Can we still use two suns to power 9.9 or do we older users have to use four? |
| 04:36.42 | wacko | that is correct.... |
| 04:37.04 | onetwo | foolish mortal insaneelite |
| 04:37.05 | Motive | Sixen is emulating Battle.net 2.0 omgwtf? |
| 04:37.10 | onetwo | you sound like youre from the 21st century |
| 04:37.11 | Lyrrad | Blizzard's biggest failure in the ditor is not including an e-mail client |
| 04:37.13 | Motive | :P |
| 04:37.22 | Insaneelite | Hey man. |
| 04:37.25 | Sixen | No, i'm making 9.9. |
| 04:37.27 | Reactorex | Why's that, Lyrrad? :P |
| 04:37.30 | Sixen | 2.0 is emulating me. |
| 04:37.31 | Insaneelite | Some of us fused with cheap cores. |
| 04:37.41 | Insaneelite | Because that's all we can afford with our intelligence credits. |
| 04:37.43 | Motive | Ah, that explains it. |
| 04:38.27 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/warsrugill/. warsrugill. spyway (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 04:39.22 | ekcolnovkol | holy crap my map looks awesome |
| 04:39.33 | ekcolnovkol | applauds himself |
| 04:40.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Pandepic (~Pandepic@CPE-121-208-6-229.bqzl1.cha.bigpond.net.au) |
| 04:41.50 | Martul | Stupid Blizzard |
| 04:42.44 | Alpha_vst | dont lie :P |
| 04:42.46 | Pandepic | morning |
| 04:43.06 | onetwo | oh Martul |
| 04:43.09 | Martul | I'm not lying, blizzard is stupid |
| 04:43.10 | onetwo | who was it that posted earlier |
| 04:43.20 | wacko | how is blizzard stupid Martul |
| 04:43.24 | onetwo | i think it was on sc2 forums? |
| 04:43.26 | Reactorex | onetwo: /expect next version. |
| 04:43.29 | onetwo | about the overriding of mpq |
| 04:43.44 | Martul | By not allowing modders to override files in the mpq using imports |
| 04:43.50 | rrowland | Wow, zone control advanced is such a piece of crap |
| 04:43.56 | onetwo | no i thought the guy posted HOW to do it |
| 04:44.10 | Reactorex | Martul, want to write a structured argument on why? |
| 04:44.29 | wacko | there is really no need for it Martul |
| 04:44.31 | onetwo | im pretty sure i saw it in the forums |
| 04:44.34 | onetwo | not sure which one |
| 04:44.55 | Martul | well WC3 was capable of overriding files in the mpq by using imports yet SC2 can't |
| 04:45.07 | Alpha_vst | what do u mean |
| 04:45.08 | onetwo | are you 100% sure? |
| 04:45.10 | Reactorex | List some things you can't do without overriding them. |
| 04:45.13 | onetwo | i havent looked into it personally |
| 04:45.16 | onetwo | but i remmeber reading you could |
| 04:45.34 | Alpha_vst | i override fiels all teh time 0.o |
| 04:45.34 | Coolflip | martul |
| 04:45.36 | Alpha_vst | files |
| 04:45.39 | Coolflip | you can override most |
| 04:45.46 | `3ICE | i definitely will be wanting to overwrite the sc2style file |
| 04:45.51 | Martul | like in WC3 you'd import a file and change its filename and path to match a file in one of the mpqs |
| 04:45.53 | Coolflip | well thats to bad lol |
| 04:46.00 | Coolflip | thats the only one you cant replace that i know of |
| 04:46.01 | Martul | and it would override said file |
| 04:46.16 | Coolflip | martul, im overriding every protoss texture right now |
| 04:46.25 | Coolflip | its possible, for most types of files |
| 04:46.25 | Alpha_vst | i have a list of about 20 textures i overrided |
| 04:46.26 | Martul | Coolflip: its impossible, I've tried many many times |
| 04:46.33 | Coolflip | you want me to show you? |
| 04:46.36 | Alpha_vst | same |
| 04:46.38 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:46.44 | Reactorex | Martul, you're on the wrong side of the argument. |
| 04:46.52 | Coolflip | we have all done it |
| 04:46.53 | Reactorex | You're telling someone who did it that they can't do it. |
| 04:46.59 | Reactorex | f-a-i-l. |
| 04:47.01 | Coolflip | lol |
| 04:47.03 | onetwo | yeah i know i saw the post |
| 04:47.05 | onetwo | it was Rrowland |
| 04:47.19 | Martul | I tried using the file path, and with no file path. so its not possible |
| 04:47.21 | Alpha_vst | http://i47.tinypic.com/110ehsg.jpg = all overrided textures |
| 04:47.28 | Alpha_vst | matul... |
| 04:47.32 | Lyrrad | Martul = Blayzin |
| 04:47.34 | wacko | your wrong Martul |
| 04:47.42 | Adjudicator | Some one please help Martul |
| 04:47.43 | wacko | I just overrode my MapInfo file :P |
| 04:47.46 | Reactorex | MArtul = Blayzin's offspring mutant. |
| 04:47.47 | Adjudicator | he's been going on about this for days |
| 04:47.48 | Tehwildcard | Alpha why not just import your own texture and replace the file |
| 04:47.57 | Coolflip | ill take a picture or two |
| 04:47.58 | Coolflip | meh |
| 04:48.00 | rrowland | What did I do? |
| 04:48.04 | Lyrrad | no, Martul literally = Blayzin |
| 04:48.16 | Alpha_vst | same thing |
| 04:48.17 | Reactorex | I know. |
| 04:48.24 | Reactorex | But he's acting up more using the name Martul. |
| 04:48.36 | Reactorex | Thus, Martul = Blayzin's offspring mutant. |
| 04:48.52 | Martul | Alpha_vst: thats using data editor. I mean actually overriding the file so mine is loaded instead of the default one from the mpq |
| 04:48.57 | Reactorex | Time to ask again! |
| 04:49.08 | onetwo | just search for rrowlands post |
| 04:49.11 | Reactorex | Anyone know what data goes in the map header file? |
| 04:49.13 | onetwo | im 99% sure it was him |
| 04:49.16 | wacko | lol |
| 04:49.19 | wacko | I do Reactorex :P |
| 04:49.20 | Lyrrad | Martul: Why Bothers and Sisters should never marry |
| 04:49.21 | Alpha_vst | the game doesnt load the deafult file |
| 04:49.34 | Reactorex | I can't get my map to publish no matter what I do. :[ |
| 04:49.39 | Reactorex | Fails at the header each time. |
| 04:49.44 | onetwo | remove teams |
| 04:49.47 | Reactorex | I've even got a failed message at 100%. |
| 04:49.47 | onetwo | from player properties |
| 04:49.59 | onetwo | the only time i was denied was because of that |
| 04:50.04 | Martul | all you did with that tileset was import your textures and change the file in the data editor |
| 04:50.09 | Reactorex | The Player Properties doesn't have teams. o.o |
| 04:50.14 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:50.21 | onetwo | save your map as |
| 04:50.22 | Reactorex | Game Variants does, though. |
| 04:50.24 | onetwo | a different one |
| 04:50.27 | Reactorex | And I have no custom data in that. |
| 04:50.29 | onetwo | delete game variants |
| 04:50.33 | onetwo | then make one with just Other and Other |
| 04:50.37 | onetwo | and try publishing that map |
| 04:50.40 | Tehwildcard | Martul in order to make his units black and white without changing lighting was to replace the texture file |
| 04:50.41 | onetwo | make sure to keep original though |
| 04:50.44 | onetwo | then remove all triggers |
| 04:50.45 | onetwo | try that |
| 04:50.47 | onetwo | then data |
| 04:50.47 | onetwo | etc |
| 04:50.48 | Tehwildcard | you can't change the textures for units in data editor |
| 04:50.50 | Alpha_vst | Martul i didnt touch any texture files in the data editor 0.o |
| 04:51.01 | Alpha_vst | and that |
| 04:51.04 | Martul | overriding a file is where you import a file say one is called /GameData/default.xml |
| 04:51.17 | Coolflip | martul, this if for you |
| 04:51.25 | Martul | so your import would be of the same path and filename |
| 04:51.25 | Coolflip | http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd61/loc_coolflip/martul1.jpg |
| 04:51.32 | Coolflip | http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd61/loc_coolflip/martul2.jpg |
| 04:51.35 | Martul | sadly in SC2 its not possible to do |
| 04:51.36 | Tehwildcard | He RePlAcEd UnIt TeXtUrEs WhiCh cAn NoT bE dOne In DaTa eDitOr |
| 04:51.58 | Martul | thats not file overriding |
| 04:52.01 | Tehwildcard | ... |
| 04:52.03 | Tehwildcard | Then how |
| 04:52.04 | Coolflip | yes it is |
| 04:52.04 | Alpha_vst | ... |
| 04:52.05 | Coolflip | oh my god |
| 04:52.16 | Martul | you just importing them to override stuff in the data editor |
| 04:52.20 | Tehwildcard | How would you replace unit textures without overriding their file in the .m3 |
| 04:52.23 | Tehwildcard | No |
| 04:52.23 | Coolflip | thats ingame |
| 04:52.25 | Tehwildcard | you're an idiot |
| 04:52.32 | Coolflip | im just going to /mute |
| 04:52.35 | Coolflip | wow |
| 04:52.37 | Tehwildcard | You can change textures of units in data editor |
| 04:52.41 | Tehwildcard | Can you not read? |
| 04:52.44 | Tehwildcard | cant* |
| 04:52.49 | Martul | I 'm talking about overriding files you can't see in the editor but exist in the mpq |
| 04:52.49 | Alpha_vst | he cant |
| 04:52.51 | Tehwildcard | Said it 3 different ways now |
| 04:52.54 | onetwo | he needs to check out the forum post |
| 04:52.58 | Tehwildcard | ... |
| 04:53.03 | Alpha_vst | you can see all files in the import editor |
| 04:53.04 | onetwo | it explains everything if i remember |
| 04:53.07 | Coolflip | do you guys like that cash icon in #2 btw? lol |
| 04:53.21 | onetwo | if you throw it on me |
| 04:53.24 | onetwo | ill like it |
| 04:53.36 | Alpha_vst | thats pretty cashy |
| 04:53.40 | onetwo | :D |
| 04:53.40 | Coolflip | hah |
| 04:53.55 | Coolflip | if you guys want it i could upload it as a .dds |
| 04:54.12 | Martul | sure you can import your own models and dds files and use the data editor to override those |
| 04:54.13 | onetwo | .dancedancerevolution |
| 04:54.23 | Lyrrad | Its hard to see there cool, but if you were to upload it, good chance I;d use it |
| 04:54.30 | Tehwildcard | Martul, honest question, are you slow? |
| 04:55.09 | Coolflip | ok martul, you are thinking about this differently |
| 04:55.16 | Coolflip | you want to override your mpq in general right? |
| 04:55.18 | Martul | but when the file to be overridden isn't viewable in the editor you would import a file using the same path and filename. at least its how it was done in WC3. can't though in SC2 |
| 04:55.25 | Martul | NO |
| 04:55.27 | Coolflip | you dont want to do it on one map |
| 04:55.29 | Martul | i said files |
| 04:55.35 | Martul | but you can't though |
| 04:55.45 | Coolflip | so you want to override it on one map? |
| 04:55.49 | Tehwildcard | omfg how do you think he changed the unit textures, go in the data editor and try to change the unit texture |
| 04:55.50 | Tehwildcard | please |
| 04:55.56 | ekcolnovkol | wow dota's map is alot more complicated than i thought |
| 04:56.05 | Martul | yea thats how |
| 04:56.07 | Coolflip | yes it is ekc |
| 04:56.12 | onetwo | you need to use the advanced view on the overview manager |
| 04:56.13 | Pandepic | lol wildcard, I think he's trolling you |
| 04:56.16 | onetwo | i think thats what rowland said |
| 04:56.17 | Coolflip | and now that you have to spend an hour to make every damn ability its longer |
| 04:56.22 | Coolflip | Were re-trolling its ok |
| 04:56.25 | onetwo | it wont let you override if you dont |
| 04:56.27 | ekcolnovkol | i'm not cloning dota |
| 04:56.30 | onetwo | and it has to be displayed as raw data |
| 04:56.31 | ekcolnovkol | i just want the map |
| 04:56.46 | ekcolnovkol | you folks can do whatever you so please with it :u |
| 04:56.47 | Tehwildcard | What's sad is I don't think he's joking. |
| 04:56.55 | Reactorex | Martul, QQ and give one valid reason. |
| 04:57.08 | Martul | in WC3 when you couldn't use the object editor to override a image you'd rename the file and its path to match a file in the mpq |
| 04:57.12 | Reactorex | Something you think can't be changed without specific importing. |
| 04:57.17 | Reactorex | Something specific in SC2. |
| 04:57.21 | Martul | something not possible in SC2 |
| 04:57.24 | Coolflip | ok martul |
| 04:57.25 | Reactorex | Otherwise, no reason to QQ. |
| 04:57.39 | Tehwildcard | We're you dropped at birth? |
| 04:58.02 | Reactorex | Got an image you're trying to override? |
| 04:58.13 | Reactorex | Doesn't sound like it at the moment. |
| 04:58.26 | Reactorex | Sounds like you're QQing about something you haven't tried to well yet. |
| 04:58.32 | Reactorex | Too, pardon me. |
| 04:58.32 | Pandepic | wildcard, that's a mean thing to say about people that were dropped at birth =O |
| 04:58.41 | Coolflip | ill go down to your level and try to help you out here |
| 04:58.47 | Coolflip | i set up a picture by picture tutorial |
| 04:58.51 | Coolflip | http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd61/loc_coolflip/1084733-1245176248-TrollFace2.jpg |
| 04:58.55 | Coolflip | oops lol |
| 04:58.56 | Coolflip | wrong pic |
| 04:59.10 | onetwo | whoa |
| 04:59.10 | Coolflip | that works i guess |
| 04:59.13 | Adjudicator | yet still relative |
| 04:59.15 | onetwo | i should quit doing tutorials |
| 04:59.17 | onetwo | that was damn good |
| 04:59.19 | onetwo | and explanatory |
| 04:59.27 | Reactorex | ... |
| 04:59.29 | Reactorex | Coolflip? |
| 04:59.32 | Coolflip | si? |
| 04:59.33 | Reactorex | You are now writing my new RPD engine. |
| 04:59.38 | Coolflip | lol |
| 04:59.39 | ekcolnovkol | why is is SO HARD to make ramps in this editor |
| 04:59.44 | ekcolnovkol | ./rage |
| 04:59.47 | Pandepic | it's not hard to make ramps... |
| 04:59.48 | Tehwildcard | lol |
| 04:59.48 | Adjudicator | Why troll Sc2Mapste? Bnet forums are much more entertaining to troll xD |
| 04:59.58 | ekcolnovkol | it's hard to get them looking the way you want them to |
| 05:00.00 | onetwo | fresh meat |
| 05:00.00 | ekcolnovkol | fff |
| 05:00.04 | Pandepic | just click and drag lol |
| 05:00.04 | Reactorex | Adjudicator, you have a point. |
| 05:00.15 | Coolflip | this is ekcol right now |
| 05:00.15 | Coolflip | http://media.photobucket.com/image/fuuuuu/Zebruh/fuuuuu.jpg |
| 05:00.16 | Martul | for example, in WC3 you import a file which used UI/SkinMetaData.slk this would override said file |
| 05:00.16 | Pandepic | if you don't drag it does weird things |
| 05:00.25 | ekcolnovkol | FFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 05:00.29 | Coolflip | UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 05:00.34 | Pandepic | NNNNNNN |
| 05:00.51 | Tehwildcard | coolflip |
| 05:00.52 | onetwo | yeah it will martul |
| 05:00.56 | Tehwildcard | you want to 3s? |
| 05:01.00 | onetwo | you just havent switched to raw data and then advanced view |
| 05:01.01 | Martul | SC2 won't though |
| 05:01.02 | onetwo | in import manager |
| 05:01.05 | onetwo | but also data |
| 05:01.06 | Coolflip | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E29iOPSxF94 |
| 05:01.06 | onetwo | too |
| 05:01.09 | Coolflip | thats more like you |
| 05:01.12 | Martul | its something impossible in SC2 |
| 05:01.13 | Coolflip | sure |
| 05:01.14 | Coolflip | i will |
| 05:01.39 | Martul | its not a data editor thing |
| 05:01.39 | Coolflip | getting ingame now |
| 05:02.00 | Tehwildcard | Martul you're right, its impossible |
| 05:02.02 | Tehwildcard | go /wrist |
| 05:02.08 | ekcolnovkol | DOTA'S ELEVATION LEVELS MAKE 0 SENSE |
| 05:02.11 | ekcolnovkol | WHAT IS GOING ON |
| 05:02.20 | Twiner | hmmm |
| 05:02.24 | Tehwildcard | ekcolnovkol |
| 05:02.25 | ekcolnovkol | this is totally freaking my trip right now |
| 05:02.28 | Tehwildcard | there is an open source dota |
| 05:02.34 | Tehwildcard | well |
| 05:02.36 | Tehwildcard | dota "builder" |
| 05:02.48 | Martul | only thing imports is for is music, models, and dds |
| 05:02.55 | Tehwildcard | You're right |
| 05:02.56 | ekcolnovkol | i don't want any of those yet |
| 05:02.56 | Tehwildcard | thats it |
| 05:02.56 | Pandepic | the road editor is so annoying |
| 05:03.04 | ekcolnovkol | i'm going nuts on the map alone lol |
| 05:03.13 | Pandepic | it keeps trying to bend my first road and not let me add a second one |
| 05:03.20 | Coolflip | ok invite me teh |
| 05:03.25 | ekcolnovkol | i have like 80% of it, but the elevations are confusing the crap outta me |
| 05:03.34 | Tehwildcard | Even though you can import any file into your map, you can only have music .m3 and .dds |
| 05:04.04 | ekcolnovkol | WHATEVER, from here on it, it's custom |
| 05:04.07 | ekcolnovkol | fffff |
| 05:04.24 | Martul | like importing other files like SC2Layout is pointless since you can't do anything with the other file types |
| 05:05.09 | Coolflip | rrowland you here? |
| 05:05.28 | Twiner | wtf |
| 05:05.31 | Twiner | Why doesn't this event work... |
| 05:05.43 | Tehwildcard | like I think like you're like totally like right, Martul |
| 05:05.59 | rrowland | sup |
| 05:06.00 | Twiner | Anyone use the Unit Selection - Any Unit Is Clicked by Any Player event? |
| 05:06.06 | Coolflip | get ingame |
| 05:06.06 | Tehwildcard | like I dont like understand how like they could like put it in wc3 and not like sc2 |
| 05:06.09 | Coolflip | we invited you |
| 05:06.09 | Coolflip | lol |
| 05:06.22 | Twiner | anyone? |
| 05:06.23 | Lyrrad | What are you playing cool? |
| 05:06.25 | Tehwildcard | I have Twiner |
| 05:06.27 | Tehwildcard | whats up? |
| 05:06.32 | Coolflip | teh, lets goooo |
| 05:06.33 | Twiner | Tehwildcard: does it work for you lol |
| 05:06.38 | Tehwildcard | Clicked doesnt work just do select |
| 05:06.45 | Twiner | I can't |
| 05:06.46 | ekcolnovkol | TREES MAKE EVERYTHING LOOK BETTER |
| 05:06.53 | Twiner | I was also trying to use Mouse Clicked |
| 05:07.02 | Twiner | and it worked... and then it stopped working |
| 05:07.07 | Tehwildcard | hm |
| 05:07.13 | Tehwildcard | I'll look at it after this game |
| 05:07.15 | Tehwildcard | I had it working fine |
| 05:07.29 | Martul | Sadly though Blizzard won't listen to modders and fix the editor. |
| 05:07.41 | Twiner | I can't use unit is selected because I disabled unit selection to prevent the player from selecting units |
| 05:07.58 | Pandepic | I knew it! changing the unit ID is what messes up the actor's model values |
| 05:08.02 | Triceron | hopefully |
| 05:08.06 | Pandepic | why oh why does iot try to copy the unit ID into those fields |
| 05:08.08 | Triceron | the community will just make a better editor |
| 05:08.11 | Pandepic | it* |
| 05:08.35 | Pandepic | it doesn't make a lot of sense |
| 05:12.33 | Martul | but not even a community built editor will be able to override mpq files |
| 05:12.57 | Martul | that is a stupid limit hardcoded into the game by Blizzard |
| 05:13.27 | `3ICE | Martul: go to sc2 beta forums --> post your QQ there so it gets fixed |
| 05:13.31 | onetwo | what map are you working on Martul? |
| 05:13.33 | onetwo | btw |
| 05:13.41 | Martul | Secret |
| 05:13.48 | onetwo | were you a war3 editor? |
| 05:13.52 | onetwo | anything good? |
| 05:14.30 | Pandepic | hey onetwo |
| 05:14.34 | onetwo | hi |
| 05:14.48 | Pandepic | when I do UnitIssueOrder, and something like Barracks Train |
| 05:14.53 | Pandepic | how do I set which unit it gets told to make? |
| 05:15.00 | Martul | I did learn WE but never bother to make anything except some little SP mods for me to play |
| 05:15.12 | onetwo | ah |
| 05:15.19 | onetwo | yeah i did a lot of solo map making |
| 05:15.22 | onetwo | or maps for me and my friends |
| 05:15.27 | onetwo | um pandepic |
| 05:15.35 | Martul | and I had fun playing my solo mods |
| 05:15.35 | onetwo | are you talking in triggers? |
| 05:15.37 | Pandepic | yep |
| 05:15.41 | onetwo | let me see |
| 05:15.49 | Pandepic | I could only find Barracks Train |
| 05:15.50 | ekcolnovkol | is there a reason there's only 4 elevations in sc2 editor |
| 05:15.54 | heysparky | Has anyone messed with space platform LOS blockers? |
| 05:15.55 | Pandepic | I can't see where you tell it which unit |
| 05:16.03 | ekcolnovkol | is my chain being yanked or am i missing something here |
| 05:16.06 | ekcolnovkol | Q_Q |
| 05:16.10 | Pandepic | 4 elevations? |
| 05:16.22 | Adjudicator | you mean from the raise clifs? |
| 05:16.24 | Martul | I'd make them then months later play them so it felt like a new mod, and so i didn't know everything about the mod still |
| 05:16.28 | ekcolnovkol | when you mess with terrain, you can only have up to 4 |
| 05:16.32 | ekcolnovkol | and the last one is a bottomless pit |
| 05:16.43 | Adjudicator | is that bad |
| 05:16.45 | ekcolnovkol | it goes bottomless pit, 1 cliff, 2 cliff, 3 cliff |
| 05:16.50 | ekcolnovkol | i need 5 elevations |
| 05:16.54 | Martul | at least WE could override mpq files |
| 05:17.11 | Pandepic | lol martul, stop complaining |
| 05:17.16 | Adjudicator | bottom less pit, leveled ground, raised, raised 2x, raised 3x |
| 05:17.17 | Lyrrad | We can override mpq, its only you that can't |
| 05:17.22 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 05:17.26 | ekcolnovkol | i need raised 4x |
| 05:17.33 | ekcolnovkol | at least i think wc3 editor had 4x |
| 05:17.34 | Martul | WE can by GE can't |
| 05:17.45 | Pandepic | ekcol: can you raise the terrain under the cliff? |
| 05:17.47 | Pandepic | to make it higher |
| 05:17.48 | onetwo | uh pandepic |
| 05:17.50 | onetwo | http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3039/trainit.jpg |
| 05:17.53 | onetwo | i see several options |
| 05:17.55 | ekcolnovkol | i need the cliff |
| 05:18.08 | onetwo | when i searched for barracks |
| 05:18.14 | Pandepic | hmm hang on |
| 05:18.16 | Lyrrad | You will have to fake another layer fo cliffs |
| 05:18.18 | Adjudicator | What are you trying to do that you need such height? |
| 05:18.20 | Pandepic | I think I was using the complete wrong action |
| 05:18.22 | ekcolnovkol | just changing height doesn't do anything for me |
| 05:18.23 | Pandepic | thanks <3 |
| 05:18.34 | ekcolnovkol | i'm trying to replicate DOTA's map properly |
| 05:18.39 | ekcolnovkol | i've only seen really shoddy versions online |
| 05:18.51 | onetwo | thats a tough job |
| 05:18.56 | onetwo | original DOTA's were pretty bad |
| 05:18.58 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 05:19.00 | ekcolnovkol | i know |
| 05:19.02 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:19.03 | Pandepic | where did you get the Unit - Order from? |
| 05:19.08 | ekcolnovkol | but i have an eye for these things <_<" |
| 05:19.12 | onetwo | Unit - Issue Order |
| 05:19.15 | onetwo | in Unit list |
| 05:19.16 | onetwo | for actions |
| 05:19.21 | Adjudicator | I wouldn't waste my time trying to replicate DotA honestly |
| 05:19.22 | Pandepic | hmm so I did have the right action |
| 05:19.33 | ekcolnovkol | i'm just taking the map |
| 05:19.39 | ekcolnovkol | the gameplay i plan on changing |
| 05:20.01 | Pandepic | for the order type |
| 05:20.04 | Pandepic | did you leave it as Order? |
| 05:20.08 | onetwo | yes |
| 05:20.11 | ekcolnovkol | the map is like the personality of the game, it attracts people |
| 05:20.16 | Pandepic | ok |
| 05:20.19 | Pandepic | this is what I see |
| 05:21.09 | Pandepic | http://i47.tinypic.com/2wg6vdx.png |
| 05:21.39 | `3ICE | ctrl+d |
| 05:22.15 | Pandepic | what does ctrl+d do? |
| 05:22.18 | `3ICE | it changes BarracksTrain2 to Barracks - Train Marauder |
| 05:22.22 | onetwo | ctrl+d |
| 05:22.23 | onetwo | raw view |
| 05:22.24 | onetwo | vs nice view |
| 05:22.28 | Pandepic | ohh |
| 05:22.30 | `3ICE | you had it on raw |
| 05:22.34 | Pandepic | thanks |
| 05:22.37 | `3ICE | np np |
| 05:22.49 | Pandepic | how do you switch back? |
| 05:22.53 | `3ICE | ctrl+d agaon :) |
| 05:22.54 | Coolflip | top right button |
| 05:22.54 | Reactorex | :'( |
| 05:23.11 | `3ICE | oh yeah i never figured out those buttons, they all look the same to me |
| 05:23.20 | `3ICE | i just use hotkeys "for great justice!" |
| 05:23.32 | Coolflip | lol....... |
| 05:23.42 | Pandepic | oh lol, I had tried pressing it again |
| 05:23.44 | Pandepic | my PC was just lagging |
| 05:23.58 | `3ICE | yeah, it takes a while to convert 486231482 lines of data :) |
| 05:24.05 | `3ICE | from nice to raw and vice versa |
| 05:24.13 | onetwo | i think ill do a tutorial on map publishing |
| 05:24.15 | onetwo | since we have one more week |
| 05:24.26 | `3ICE | yeah lots of people need that |
| 05:24.36 | `3ICE | corrupt header and other annoyances :) |
| 05:24.37 | Reactorex | I need a hug. |
| 05:24.39 | Coolflip | make sure to add the server address change |
| 05:24.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster deathnight114 (~chatzilla@c-67-171-44-7.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:24.46 | `3ICE | hugs Reactorex |
| 05:24.52 | Reactorex | I have a corrupt uncorrupt header :( |
| 05:24.58 | Coolflip | lol |
| 05:25.07 | Reactorex | It's corrupt even though it's not. |
| 05:25.30 | Reactorex | It's an exact duplicate of other maps that have been able to be published. |
| 05:25.38 | Reactorex | Well, in the game variants. |
| 05:25.44 | `3ICE | hope you changed the name |
| 05:25.49 | `3ICE | oh nvm |
| 05:26.14 | Reactorex | < has been trying one thing at a time since 7 PM two days ago |
| 05:26.23 | Pandepic | Reactor: they broke the game variants stuff |
| 05:26.37 | Pandepic | things you could publish before don't work now |
| 05:26.53 | Reactorex | I've tried with game variants at default, too. |
| 05:26.59 | Pandepic | oh realy? |
| 05:27.01 | Reactorex | Even THAT doesn't work. |
| 05:27.04 | Pandepic | wow |
| 05:27.08 | ekcolnovkol | question |
| 05:27.09 | Reactorex | Everything at (None) -- corrupt header. |
| 05:27.11 | ekcolnovkol | how does foilage work |
| 05:27.13 | ekcolnovkol | because it doesn't |
| 05:27.16 | Reactorex | It does. |
| 05:27.22 | Reactorex | Turn up your graphics. :) |
| 05:27.29 | Reactorex | Then generate foliage. |
| 05:27.32 | ekcolnovkol | wut |
| 05:27.36 | ekcolnovkol | in options? |
| 05:27.44 | Reactorex | Preferences. |
| 05:27.44 | onetwo | reactorex |
| 05:27.47 | Reactorex | ctrl+alt+shift+p |
| 05:27.56 | onetwo | i just made a map with only 2 player users, random team crap setup for them |
| 05:27.58 | Reactorex | Video - Medium or High |
| 05:28.02 | onetwo | added a game variant and didnt change anything |
| 05:28.06 | onetwo | and i could publish |
| 05:28.10 | onetwo | so not sure |
| 05:28.13 | onetwo | cant be those things |
| 05:28.16 | Reactorex | onetwo: Then the publisher hates me? |
| 05:28.20 | ekcolnovkol | oh shit |
| 05:28.24 | ekcolnovkol | ultra graphis = <333 |
| 05:28.30 | ekcolnovkol | that is sexy |
| 05:28.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:28.44 | Reactorex | Ctrl+Shift+D to generate foliage once you've got it up. |
| 05:29.07 | Pandepic | generate foilage doesn't seem to work in the wasteland terrain =( |
| 05:29.15 | ekcolnovkol | oh i see |
| 05:29.20 | ekcolnovkol | foilage covers the entire map by default |
| 05:29.26 | Reactorex | Actually, Pandepic.. |
| 05:29.27 | ekcolnovkol | no wonder i didn't anything happening |
| 05:29.29 | Pandepic | oh wait |
| 05:29.31 | Reactorex | It works on most terrain types, but it's scarce. |
| 05:29.33 | Pandepic | it's because I'm on low settings |
| 05:29.36 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 05:29.39 | Reactorex | SOME terrain types have ZERO foliage, though. |
| 05:29.45 | Reactorex | I've tested a lot. :> |
| 05:29.45 | ekcolnovkol | oh my god |
| 05:29.51 | ekcolnovkol | my map is fucking beautiful |
| 05:29.53 | Pandepic | haha |
| 05:29.53 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 05:29.56 | Reactorex | xD |
| 05:30.11 | ekcolnovkol | fffffffff |
| 05:30.14 | Reactorex | And then you look at a pro terrainer and go "fuck, my map is burnt toast. q_q" |
| 05:30.14 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 05:30.25 | ekcolnovkol | i am a pro terrainer D: |
| 05:30.30 | Reactorex | So easy to make godly terrains in SC2 terrain editor compared to WC3's. |
| 05:30.43 | Reactorex | To make a pro terrain by sc2 terrain editor standards... godlike! <3 |
| 05:30.50 | ekcolnovkol | automatic random doodad for the victory |
| 05:30.58 | `3ICE | i miss old terraining of wc3, i need snap-to-grid terrain |
| 05:31.07 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 05:31.12 | Reactorex | You want to be able to change terrain-type ingame? |
| 05:31.28 | `3ICE | best workaround i found is raise cliff -> fill terrain texture -> lower cliff |
| 05:31.30 | Reactorex | That's something I've been wanting. :P |
| 05:31.33 | `3ICE | gives me a perfectly straight line |
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| 05:31.41 | `3ICE | but its messy |
| 05:31.52 | `3ICE | once you cant raise cliff anymore w/o breaking stuff |
| 05:31.52 | Reactorex | Why's it messy? |
| 05:31.59 | Reactorex | Ah. |
| 05:32.01 | Reactorex | Right. |
| 05:32.07 | Reactorex | What about lower? |
| 05:32.09 | Reactorex | :P |
| 05:32.26 | `3ICE | no like having preplaced units and buildings |
| 05:32.32 | Reactorex | Right. |
| 05:32.39 | Reactorex | Two things I would like to see: |
| 05:32.44 | ekcolnovkol | is it possible to turn up the overall map brightness |
| 05:32.53 | Reactorex | Snap to grid for terrain and use some sort of line draw tool for terrain. |
| 05:32.56 | `3ICE | yeah, edit the lightning or whatever its called |
| 05:33.04 | Reactorex | Click somewhere and then hold shift to draw to the next point with terrain. |
| 05:33.12 | Reactorex | Straight lines in any possible angle, violà . |
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| 05:33.24 | `3ICE | i'd love "fill grid square with terrain" |
| 05:33.35 | `3ICE | i could just click a few times and have a perfect line |
| 05:33.40 | ekcolnovkol | where is lighting |
| 05:33.47 | Twiner | well, I think i've resolved almost every issue with my ability |
| 05:33.49 | `3ICE | some1 help ekcolnovkol |
| 05:34.02 | Twiner | made it work on right click, using the expensive mouse clicked event |
| 05:34.18 | Reactorex | voil`a* |
| 05:34.24 | Reactorex | Eaa, voilà * |
| 05:34.40 | Reactorex | Ekc, what do you mean by where is lighting? |
| 05:34.42 | Alpha_vst | YES |
| 05:34.49 | ekcolnovkol | i'm trying to change overall map brightness |
| 05:34.51 | Alpha_vst | ITS COMPLETED!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:34.58 | ekcolnovkol | ZhakulDas is extremely dark |
| 05:35.00 | Reactorex | Prove it, alpha :P |
| 05:35.03 | Alpha_vst | after 5 days that stupid spawning is done |
| 05:35.10 | Coolflip | lol |
| 05:35.12 | Coolflip | thats like i was |
| 05:35.14 | Reactorex | Can it make me my breakfast? |
| 05:35.23 | Coolflip | than in 2 days you will be like wtf that was easy |
| 05:35.27 | Alpha_vst | no but it doesnt give a single error |
| 05:35.29 | Alpha_vst | now |
| 05:35.37 | Reactorex | Then it's not finished. |
| 05:35.58 | Reactorex | It needs to be able to make me bacon, eggs, and toast and put it on a photon platter. |
| 05:36.08 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 05:36.11 | Reactorex | Even if it's just pixels. |
| 05:36.23 | Alpha_vst | thats not this game 0.o |
| 05:36.24 | Reactorex | I'd be happy with pixels. :P |
| 05:36.29 | Reactorex | CRAP |
| 05:36.31 | Reactorex | I just lost the game. |
| 05:36.32 | Reactorex | >< |
| 05:36.37 | Reactorex | Thanks, Alpha. D: |
| 05:36.51 | Reactorex | :'( |
| 05:37.21 | Alpha_vst | what it does is you know randomize the spawning of points and if none are on the grid it makes the level bigger :D |
| 05:37.46 | Reactorex | How can it make the map size bigger? |
| 05:37.54 | ekcolnovkol | i found the lighting |
| 05:37.55 | Alpha_vst | the map is 256x256 |
| 05:37.55 | ekcolnovkol | but holy jesus |
| 05:37.57 | ekcolnovkol | so many options |
| 05:38.01 | Reactorex | xP |
| 05:38.06 | Reactorex | onetwo's tutorials will help you. |
| 05:38.08 | Alpha_vst | it starts at 80 |
| 05:38.12 | Reactorex | He has one that covers lighting shortly. |
| 05:38.13 | Alpha_vst | and yeah |
| 05:38.25 | Reactorex | Alpha, are you going to use it for any RPGs? |
| 05:38.30 | Alpha_vst | i should make a video? |
| 05:38.46 | Reactorex | And will the system be eventually open source? :P |
| 05:39.01 | Alpha_vst | probably just use it for this one game |
| 05:39.10 | Alpha_vst | its coded like crap :P |
| 05:39.14 | Alpha_vst | but idono |
| 05:39.28 | Reactorex | I can see it being veeeery helpful for certain RPG setups with some extra modification. |
| 05:39.34 | onetwo | hey guys, new tutorial just posted to youtube... voting, lighting, spawning, camera lock/follow, and creep-trails |
| 05:39.34 | Pandepic | Alpha: I'm not impressed, you could impress me by making it spawn zerglings |
| 05:39.35 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP5DO5ZuYNM |
| 05:39.46 | Reactorex | xD |
| 05:39.49 | Reactorex | Perfect timing, onetwo. |
| 05:39.51 | Alpha_vst | pandepic my whole map is random spawned by triggers |
| 05:39.54 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:39.57 | Reactorex | ekcolnovkol was just talking about lighting. |
| 05:40.00 | Pandepic | but is it zerglings? |
| 05:40.00 | onetwo | oh |
| 05:40.09 | onetwo | ekcolnovkol may as well check that video out |
| 05:40.13 | Reactorex | Yep. xD |
| 05:40.14 | onetwo | i do some lighting stuff near the end of it |
| 05:40.21 | Reactorex | I'm going to check it out for the camera lock/follow. |
| 05:40.27 | Alpha_vst | pandepic yes but not yet |
| 05:40.30 | onetwo | probably in a later section |
| 05:40.33 | Pandepic | yay |
| 05:40.38 | onetwo | much of the tutorial is based on my infection map |
| 05:40.41 | `3ICE | I watch tutorials because they entertain me. |
| 05:40.54 | Pandepic | I should do a tutorial on something |
| 05:40.54 | onetwo | and camera lock is so similar to my old tutorials anyway reactorex |
| 05:40.56 | onetwo | >< |
| 05:41.05 | Pandepic | "how to make yet another zergling defense" |
| 05:41.09 | Reactorex | It still didn't work for me :P |
| 05:41.14 | Alpha_vst | i shall make a video of my new spawn system |
| 05:41.14 | onetwo | oh |
| 05:41.15 | Triceron | infection is awesome |
| 05:41.16 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:41.19 | Reactorex | My camera is stuttery or vfalls behind. |
| 05:41.26 | Reactorex | NOTHING has worked for me yet. |
| 05:41.35 | Pandepic | I saw on youtube |
| 05:41.37 | Pandepic | an FPS map |
| 05:41.39 | Pandepic | in the sc2 editor |
| 05:41.43 | Pandepic | that camera was pretty good |
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| 05:42.04 | Reactorex | I've accomplished "pretty good" but not as good as I need for how my camera is positioned. |
| 05:42.04 | Pandepic | the guy said he had scope zooming working as well |
| 05:42.09 | Triceron | does wasd make bnet lag? |
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| 05:42.16 | `3ICE | i find there is a huge difference when you test your map offline and when you go online, might be that |
| 05:42.16 | Reactorex | A bit. |
| 05:42.27 | Pandepic | wasd? |
| 05:42.31 | Reactorex | 3ICE, I've been testing offline. |
| 05:42.33 | Triceron | WASD movement |
| 05:42.35 | Reactorex | And it's still inefficient. |
| 05:42.41 | `3ICE | wasd feels weird online |
| 05:42.44 | Motive | Play my map offline :P |
| 05:42.46 | Pandepic | lol it makes the game lag? |
| 05:42.47 | Motive | Feels smooth |
| 05:42.56 | Twiner | ahh |
| 05:42.58 | Motive | If it's lagging in single player then the implementation is flawed. |
| 05:43.00 | Reactorex | I have been testing offline xD |
| 05:43.01 | Twiner | in order for unit clicked to work |
| 05:43.06 | Twiner | the player has to click on units that are clickable |
| 05:43.08 | Reactorex | I can't get one that's smooth enough in single player. |
| 05:43.15 | Reactorex | It's essentially a first person camera. |
| 05:43.16 | onetwo | oh reactorex then this tut might not help you |
| 05:43.19 | Reactorex | Just slightly 3rd person. |
| 05:43.20 | onetwo | i just do triggers |
| 05:43.21 | onetwo | nothing advanced in data |
| 05:43.24 | Motive | sec reactorex :P |
| 05:43.34 | Triceron | top down shooter multiplay lags a lot, not sure if it's cuz of WASD or some other reason |
| 05:43.38 | onetwo | infection's camera follow is pretty quick though |
| 05:43.43 | onetwo | see whatever values i used in my data for that |
| 05:44.04 | Reactorex | It's either jittery (shows the unit spasming across the screen) or falls behind the unit (the unit slides to the left or right when you strafe, or behind the camera when you're running forward) |
| 05:44.23 | Reactorex | It's only ever terribly visible when I'm strafing, though. |
| 05:44.25 | Pandepic | can you use the same methods as in wc3 for camera follow? |
| 05:44.27 | Reactorex | That's what I'm trying to fix. |
| 05:44.39 | Reactorex | It's implemented alongside mouselook. |
| 05:44.49 | onetwo | little bit different |
| 05:44.52 | onetwo | and it doesnt fully lock |
| 05:44.55 | onetwo | theres a method to get out |
| 05:44.59 | onetwo | where you click your unit portrait |
| 05:45.03 | onetwo | but youll be unable to move the camera |
| 05:45.03 | onetwo | :/ |
| 05:45.04 | Pandepic | ah |
| 05:45.10 | Reactorex | Can't click unit portraits if you have mouselook, thankfully. :) |
| 05:45.11 | `3ICE | relock every 1sec |
| 05:45.45 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:45.49 | onetwo | id rather not though |
| 05:45.54 | onetwo | i just put a fix cam button |
| 05:45.55 | onetwo | for the player |
| 05:45.57 | onetwo | for now |
| 05:45.58 | `3ICE | i had to do that for war3 too |
| 05:46.02 | onetwo | oh |
| 05:46.09 | `3ICE | there was a secret key combination that lets you unlock camera :D |
| 05:46.23 | `3ICE | i think ctrl+c or something |
| 05:46.35 | Alpha_vst | LIES |
| 05:46.49 | `3ICE | TRUTH |
| 05:46.59 | `3ICE | go try it :) |
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| 05:48.35 | Alpha_vst | Saving my movie lol |
| 05:49.05 | Alpha_vst | what does it do> |
| 05:49.52 | Alpha_vst | what does it unlock? :P |
| 05:50.25 | `3ICE | in war3: cameral - lock camera on unit |
| 05:50.29 | `3ICE | you hit ctrl+c |
| 05:50.33 | `3ICE | cam is magically unlocked |
| 05:50.37 | Alpha_vst | oh |
| 05:50.53 | `3ICE | so i had to put the lock camera on unit action run every sec |
| 05:51.00 | Alpha_vst | i don't use that |
| 05:51.05 | `3ICE | because the map is easier to play without locked cam and players were cheating :) |
| 05:51.10 | Alpha_vst | but i locked the scrolling of my cam |
| 05:51.32 | Alpha_vst | LOL SILLY CHEATERS!!!!!!! |
| 05:51.42 | `3ICE | ctrl+c=center cam on unit |
| 05:51.47 | `3ICE | same as clicking unit's portrait |
| 05:52.45 | Alpha_vst | wow it took 3 min for all my points to auto generate with the action i made lol |
| 05:53.23 | Alpha_vst | I didnt want to break it by doing it to fast :P |
| 05:53.27 | ekcolnovkol | i am a GOD |
| 05:53.33 | ekcolnovkol | hnghhhhhhhhhh |
| 05:54.06 | `3ICE | I wept and wept in the presence of my Lord. |
| 05:54.24 | ekcolnovkol | how do i produce creep o_O |
| 05:54.26 | Alpha_vst | no your not |
| 05:54.34 | ekcolnovkol | NEVERMIND |
| 05:54.35 | Alpha_vst | you poop it out |
| 05:54.36 | `3ICE | I promise faithfully, in the presence of the eternal, my God, that I, enduring the whole Course of my Life, shall serve the same Eternal, my God. |
| 05:54.55 | Alpha_vst | NOW I CAN ADD ZOMBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:54.57 | Alpha_vst | WOOT!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:55.02 | `3ICE | brainsssss |
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| 05:55.28 | ekcolnovkol | Extra Large spine crawlers are WIN |
| 05:55.31 | ekcolnovkol | ahahahaha |
| 05:56.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ignorance (~daviddavi@cpe-98-155-15-226.san.res.rr.com) |
| 05:56.05 | Alpha_vst | or tiny ones |
| 05:56.09 | ekcolnovkol | increase their range for more tentacle strikes out of NOWHERE |
| 05:56.36 | ekcolnovkol | nothing like eating a spine crawler from fog |
| 05:56.51 | Alpha_vst | some one needs to reverse those things and make it come up from the ground |
| 05:56.59 | Alpha_vst | you know like those one things :P |
| 05:57.18 | ekcolnovkol | i have fantasies aboue them |
| 05:57.35 | ekcolnovkol | about* |
| 05:57.58 | Alpha_vst | SO |
| 05:58.18 | Alpha_vst | i have my custom ingame music playing in this... idono if im keeping it though |
| 05:58.44 | Alpha_vst | its grown on me i listen to it all the time making this map lol |
| 05:59.15 | Triceron | anyone doing the modelling contest? |
| 06:01.31 | Alpha_vst | what modeling contest |
| 06:01.39 | Alpha_vst | i wish they had a texturing contest |
| 06:01.50 | Alpha_vst | I would enter my map :P |
| 06:01.56 | `3ICE | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/2462-contest-3d-modeling/ |
| 06:02.24 | Ignorance | What's going on with publishing right now? |
| 06:02.26 | casperb | Pure modeling contest? hate rigging -.- |
| 06:04.17 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArkNgnhQhkQ there is my video not HD yet 0.o but it has my awesome ambient music |
| 06:04.18 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 06:05.56 | onetwo | hahah fuck my attempt at a publishing tutorial failed 4 mins in |
| 06:05.58 | onetwo | as i was uploading |
| 06:06.03 | onetwo | it said failed: variant failure |
| 06:06.08 | onetwo | variant not defined or something |
| 06:06.09 | onetwo | hahaha damn |
| 06:06.35 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 06:06.42 | onetwo | oh, ignorance is having an issue too? |
| 06:07.05 | Triceron | alpha_vst what map? |
| 06:07.24 | Ignorance | How do I fix the publishing issue atm? |
| 06:07.28 | Ignorance | no, tehwildcard was |
| 06:07.29 | Alpha_vst | did you miss the title? |
| 06:07.30 | Ignorance | and we need to know |
| 06:07.36 | Ignorance | for the publishing of our map |
| 06:07.41 | Reactorex | I think they're modding the publishing system. |
| 06:07.45 | Reactorex | Slightly. |
| 06:07.55 | Alpha_vst | GOOD |
| 06:08.06 | Reactorex | MAYBE. |
| 06:08.08 | Reactorex | But MAYBE not. |
| 06:08.21 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 06:08.34 | wacko | modding the publishing system ? |
| 06:08.49 | Alpha_vst | changing it |
| 06:08.51 | Alpha_vst | updating |
| 06:08.55 | Alpha_vst | fixing |
| 06:08.58 | Alpha_vst | you know |
| 06:09.00 | Ignorance | Alpha |
| 06:09.06 | Alpha_vst | yes? |
| 06:09.06 | Ignorance | you know how to publish right now? |
| 06:09.17 | Alpha_vst | i dont publish :P |
| 06:09.19 | Ignorance | :P |
| 06:09.23 | Alpha_vst | i have nothing to publish |
| 06:09.26 | Ignorance | does anyone? |
| 06:10.11 | onetwo | just figured out my error |
| 06:10.14 | Alpha_vst | I need input on my choice of ambient music for my game :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArkNgnhQhkQ so listen and watch |
| 06:10.16 | onetwo | only 1 player was setup |
| 06:10.20 | onetwo | even with game variant |
| 06:10.21 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 06:10.22 | onetwo | it crashed uploading |
| 06:10.33 | onetwo | so publishing works |
| 06:10.51 | Alpha_vst | can someone explain game attributes? |
| 06:10.55 | Alpha_vst | OH GOSH BED TIMES!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:10.57 | onetwo | i actually cant |
| 06:10.57 | wacko | yea |
| 06:10.59 | wacko | I can |
| 06:11.29 | Alpha_vst | come back tomorrow and force you to give me feed back :D |
| 06:11.33 | Alpha_vst | goodnight :P |
| 06:11.36 | wacko | lol |
| 06:13.05 | wacko | I do not think they are modding the publishing system right now... live |
| 06:13.10 | wacko | nor do I think they are going to change much |
| 06:14.44 | wacko | Ignorance I know how to publish :P |
| 06:16.12 | Reactorex | <- Sad panda. |
| 06:18.22 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 06:18.29 | ekcolnovkol | pandas are endangered species |
| 06:19.26 | onetwo | holy shit so scary |
| 06:19.43 | onetwo | my 2nd monitor started doing the crazy flickering it did a few months ago when my first 8800 died |
| 06:19.53 | onetwo | i let it go and then it screwed my whole screens up |
| 06:19.56 | onetwo | so this time i shut it off |
| 06:19.58 | onetwo | so far so good |
| 06:19.59 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:20.25 | SixTwo | you wouldn't believe how many people I know that had trouble with 8800 |
| 06:20.27 | casperb | Hm game time is real time? |
| 06:20.40 | SixTwo | 2 of mine went borked one after the other |
| 06:20.43 | Reactorex | Casperb, in normal it is. |
| 06:20.51 | `3ICE | but every1 plays in faster |
| 06:20.55 | Reactorex | But in faster or slower, no. |
| 06:21.20 | onetwo | i had no problems with 8800 for 3 years |
| 06:21.23 | casperb | Playing my map in faster, timer has the same speed as realtime |
| 06:21.26 | onetwo | until a few months ago |
| 06:21.41 | Coolflip | whats the difference between legacy and strafe weapons? |
| 06:22.32 | Reactorex | Oh come on.. |
| 06:22.35 | Reactorex | What's up with this? |
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| 06:22.51 | Reactorex | I go to publish again, trying to change the name and see if that helps THIS time.. |
| 06:23.17 | Reactorex | And I get "The published name 'my old map name here...[locale]' is not available." |
| 06:23.25 | onetwo | i think strafe weapons is like the new phoenix |
| 06:23.29 | onetwo | legacy is like regular units shooting |
| 06:23.31 | onetwo | stop and shoot |
| 06:23.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:23.39 | onetwo | uh check your name |
| 06:23.40 | onetwo | in map info |
| 06:23.41 | Reactorex | If I change the name again, it usually switches to the same thing or to plPL or ruRU for the locale... |
| 06:24.12 | Reactorex | Eh? |
| 06:24.19 | Reactorex | Why would that be necessary? O.o That's weird. |
| 06:25.07 | Reactorex | I don't see any useful application as to why Map Name in Map Info and the published name would be different. |
| 06:25.29 | onetwo | i just had a similar bug |
| 06:25.33 | onetwo | then i just changed name in map info |
| 06:25.36 | onetwo | and left publishing one as same |
| 06:25.37 | Coolflip | delete your old version maybe |
| 06:25.48 | Reactorex | I don't have ANY versions on the BNet servers. |
| 06:25.51 | Reactorex | I can't upload it. |
| 06:26.05 | Reactorex | Every time, I get Status: Failed |
| 06:26.11 | Reactorex | Info: Transmitting Header File |
| 06:26.18 | wacko | one second |
| 06:26.40 | Reactorex | Upload Error: [timestamp], Default values are not valid (Hard drive location) |
| 06:26.47 | wacko | yea |
| 06:27.02 | Reactorex | The publisher has a personality. |
| 06:27.09 | Reactorex | One day, it's happy. |
| 06:27.12 | Reactorex | Next day, it's sour. |
| 06:27.24 | Reactorex | For me, it's holding a grudge. :( |
| 06:28.21 | Pandepic | shouldn't have slept with it's girlfriend |
| 06:28.35 | Reactorex | You mean the WC3 editor? |
| 06:28.41 | Pandepic | yep |
| 06:29.03 | Reactorex | Now that puts me in a tough place. |
| 06:29.04 | Twiner | any tutorials on doing custom UI? |
| 06:29.20 | Reactorex | I'm stuck between taking the Galaxy Editor and no publishing and taking the WC3 editor and cheating on it. |
| 06:29.31 | Pandepic | ugh this is irritating |
| 06:29.34 | onetwo | hey reactorex |
| 06:29.36 | onetwo | how many players |
| 06:29.37 | Pandepic | my trigger is getting the building I want |
| 06:29.38 | onetwo | for your map |
| 06:29.40 | Reactorex | 8. |
| 06:29.41 | Pandepic | and issuing the train order |
| 06:29.42 | Pandepic | and nothing happens |
| 06:29.43 | onetwo | damn |
| 06:29.46 | Reactorex | It was 12, but I moved it down. |
| 06:29.52 | onetwo | have you tried deleting your game variants |
| 06:29.53 | Reactorex | Didn't help. |
| 06:29.56 | onetwo | and just generating default |
| 06:30.08 | Reactorex | The default are ugly. :( |
| 06:30.12 | onetwo | try it once |
| 06:30.14 | onetwo | on a save as map |
| 06:30.24 | onetwo | just to see |
| 06:30.26 | onetwo | if thats the issue |
| 06:30.54 | ekcolnovkol | water is driving my graphics card bonkers |
| 06:31.12 | Reactorex | :P |
| 06:31.17 | ekcolnovkol | still SEXY |
| 06:31.18 | Pandepic | lol omg, another stupid typo mistake |
| 06:31.20 | Pandepic | I hate that |
| 06:32.39 | Tehwildcard | ekcolnovkol might have dust on it, put it in the dishwater for a few mins |
| 06:32.42 | Tehwildcard | should be good as new |
| 06:32.50 | Tehwildcard | dishwasher too |
| 06:33.10 | Reactorex | onetwo: |
| 06:33.12 | Reactorex | It STILL failed. |
| 06:33.15 | onetwo | damn |
| 06:33.26 | onetwo | k test 2: delet all your triggers |
| 06:33.30 | onetwo | in a saved as map |
| 06:33.34 | onetwo | with the old variant |
| 06:33.35 | onetwo | of course |
| 06:33.39 | onetwo | try publishing that |
| 06:34.13 | Reactorex | I made an extra copy of my map before choosing to publish it. |
| 06:34.23 | Reactorex | My map file I use for testing isn't a compressed version. |
| 06:34.38 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:34.44 | onetwo | you compressed it? |
| 06:34.45 | onetwo | how |
| 06:34.52 | Reactorex | I do quick saves for editing. |
| 06:34.59 | Reactorex | I do quick loads for publish. |
| 06:35.08 | Reactorex | Go to editor preferences to check for the option. :) |
| 06:35.12 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:35.14 | onetwo | i dont do that |
| 06:35.15 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:35.16 | Reactorex | Quick load = compressed. |
| 06:35.21 | Reactorex | Faster load, less data. |
| 06:35.26 | Reactorex | Takes more time to save it, though. |
| 06:35.30 | Reactorex | Not much. |
| 06:35.39 | Reactorex | Only brought my 400kb map to 300kb |
| 06:35.52 | wacko | its just a different save option on the mopaw |
| 06:35.55 | wacko | *mopaq |
| 06:36.20 | Reactorex | 361 KB turns into 292 KB when using faster loading times to save. |
| 06:36.29 | Reactorex | So yeah. |
| 06:36.38 | Reactorex | Not much of a difference. |
| 06:37.02 | onetwo | not sure if that could be an issue |
| 06:37.03 | Reactorex | For small projects, wouldn't matter one way or another in the end if you did fast save or fast load when saving. |
| 06:37.07 | onetwo | ive never touched that area |
| 06:39.16 | Reactorex | Sure didn't help my case. |
| 06:39.25 | Reactorex | Still failed at transmitting header. |
| 06:39.32 | onetwo | can you upload other maps? |
| 06:39.34 | onetwo | blank ones? |
| 06:39.42 | onetwo | make a blank map with 2 players, default generated game variant |
| 06:39.45 | onetwo | i just did and it worked |
| 06:39.48 | Reactorex | I would assume so. |
| 06:39.48 | onetwo | so if that doesnt work.. |
| 06:39.53 | Reactorex | In fact, I have a map that I can do that with. |
| 06:39.55 | Reactorex | It's just a terrain. |
| 06:40.02 | Reactorex | Floating islands. :) |
| 06:40.08 | Reactorex | Grassy floating islands. |
| 06:40.11 | Tehwildcard | Should make a map, completely blank, name it DoTA and add the dota minimap |
| 06:40.14 | Tehwildcard | just to fuck with people |
| 06:40.23 | Reactorex | XD |
| 06:40.30 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:40.39 | onetwo | cause my headers when im not logged in say |
| 06:40.45 | onetwo | no header for Teams 02[Multi] |
| 06:40.51 | onetwo | and for Liberty (Mod) |
| 06:40.52 | onetwo | something like that |
| 06:40.56 | onetwo | then when i login to publish |
| 06:40.58 | onetwo | those go away |
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| 06:42.50 | Triceron | 40% done my contest model |
| 06:46.20 | Reactorex | Oh wow. |
| 06:46.24 | Reactorex | The Generate Defaults button isn't doing anything. |
| 06:46.25 | Reactorex | O.o |
| 06:46.54 | Pandepic | Reactor |
| 06:47.04 | Pandepic | for editing a custom unit/building |
| 06:47.05 | onetwo | you need 2 players |
| 06:47.08 | onetwo | minimum |
| 06:47.11 | Pandepic | how do I change the text that comes up in the build menu? |
| 06:47.11 | onetwo | for defaults to generate |
| 06:47.24 | onetwo | you need to find the build ability |
| 06:47.27 | Pandepic | I've changed the description of my building everywhere I can find it, but it still has the default barracks description |
| 06:47.27 | onetwo | so like for photon cannon |
| 06:47.31 | onetwo | you go to Probe - Buil |
| 06:47.34 | onetwo | Build |
| 06:47.36 | onetwo | or w/e its called |
| 06:47.45 | onetwo | find that ability |
| 06:47.47 | onetwo | its linked to the unit |
| 06:47.49 | onetwo | then in there |
| 06:47.55 | onetwo | i think under Commands+ |
| 06:47.57 | onetwo | double click |
| 06:48.03 | onetwo | look for Warp in Photon Cannon in the list |
| 06:48.08 | onetwo | oh wait |
| 06:48.11 | onetwo | hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 06:48.15 | Pandepic | yeah I did that already |
| 06:48.15 | onetwo | i think you just need to set the button? |
| 06:48.18 | Pandepic | changed the button descriptions |
| 06:48.22 | Pandepic | all of that stuff |
| 06:48.25 | Pandepic | it still wont change |
| 06:48.32 | onetwo | make sure its the right one |
| 06:48.34 | onetwo | right unit |
| 06:48.35 | Pandepic | it is |
| 06:48.37 | onetwo | damn |
| 06:48.40 | onetwo | well im done here |
| 06:48.40 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:49.38 | Pandepic | uuuugh, so annoying |
| 06:49.47 | Reactorex | So you're trying to show the information shown during mouseover from the build menu. |
| 06:49.49 | Pandepic | my unit description wont change from default either |
| 06:49.52 | Pandepic | yeah |
| 06:49.54 | Reactorex | Change the shown info, rather. |
| 06:50.07 | Pandepic | in the button? |
| 06:51.48 | Pandepic | there's no shown info field in the button |
| 06:53.10 | Reactorex | Are you using a custom builder? |
| 06:53.13 | Reactorex | Or the default SCV? |
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| 06:53.45 | ekcolnovkol | holy crap |
| 06:53.48 | ekcolnovkol | i finished |
| 06:53.49 | ekcolnovkol | D: |
| 06:54.02 | Reactorex | Your whole DotA map? |
| 06:54.07 | ekcolnovkol | yeah |
| 06:54.16 | ekcolnovkol | i made a few changes where the elevations were impossible |
| 06:54.21 | ekcolnovkol | but goddamn it's sexy |
| 06:54.32 | Reactorex | How many heroes? :P |
| 06:54.44 | ekcolnovkol | under 9000 |
| 06:54.48 | Reactorex | xD |
| 06:55.01 | Pandepic | lol I'm an idiot |
| 06:55.10 | Pandepic | I checked everywhere but the command card |
| 06:55.20 | Pandepic | in the train settings it was the right button |
| 06:55.23 | Pandepic | but not in the command card |
| 06:55.36 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:55.42 | Reactorex | xD |
| 06:55.52 | Reactorex | :p |
| 06:56.18 | Reactorex | I found all of them in 5 minutes of searching. :3 |
| 06:56.28 | Reactorex | I don't see why some people say the data editor is impossible. |
| 06:56.41 | Reactorex | Some things are confusing, but you can find most things pretty damn fast. |
| 06:56.52 | Reactorex | We call it "search" and "common sense". :3 |
| 06:56.52 | Pandepic | it's not impossible |
| 06:57.00 | Sixen | So... How's the weather in here? |
| 06:57.01 | Pandepic | it's just annoying sometimes |
| 06:57.10 | Reactorex | Rather steamy, Sixen. |
| 06:57.12 | Sixen | Hawt. |
| 06:57.23 | Reactorex | We had Blayzin stop by for a visit. |
| 06:57.31 | onetwo | martul |
| 06:57.31 | Pandepic | also, the data editor does some stupid things |
| 06:57.37 | Pandepic | like changing the model when you change unit ID |
| 06:57.38 | Reactorex | And then had happyfuntimes shortly after. |
| 06:57.47 | Pandepic | and not reselecting a unit after I change some fields |
| 06:57.50 | Reactorex | After he left, ofc. |
| 06:58.10 | Pandepic | we all know you miss him Reactor |
| 06:58.17 | Reactorex | :p |
| 06:58.48 | Sixen | Oh lawd. |
| 06:58.53 | Coolflip | hmmmm |
| 06:59.11 | Sixen | I wish there were 3 sets of IRC Ops. |
| 06:59.15 | Sixen | Ops, Voice, and something. |
| 06:59.16 | Coolflip | i duplicated a photon cannon weapon and i cant get the rate of fire to go up |
| 06:59.22 | Coolflip | i changed the period :( |
| 06:59.29 | SixTwo | any tips on howto remove the "you can't control that unit" error |
| 06:59.36 | Coolflip | make it controllable |
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| 06:59.37 | Coolflip | ? |
| 06:59.55 | ekcolnovkol | anyone wanna put heroes into my map |
| 06:59.56 | ekcolnovkol | :D |
| 07:00.00 | Coolflip | god |
| 07:00.04 | Coolflip | ive worked like 2 days on one hero |
| 07:00.08 | Pandepic | maybe the cooldown or reload duration coolflip |
| 07:00.08 | ekcolnovkol | well |
| 07:00.17 | onetwo | and i finally posted my tutorial on your site sixen |
| 07:00.18 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:00.20 | ekcolnovkol | now you can have a sweetass map to put him in |
| 07:00.21 | ekcolnovkol | <3 |
| 07:00.22 | onetwo | the latest one that is |
| 07:00.26 | onetwo | its okay... not my best tutorial though |
| 07:00.31 | ekcolnovkol | link? |
| 07:00.31 | SixTwo | not an option, I have my "hero" unselectable, but he still moves to where i rightclick, however if i select anything else my hero wont move, as i get the you cant control that uni error |
| 07:00.38 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:00.38 | Coolflip | reload is 0 |
| 07:00.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster picklefish (~Shane@cpe-72-179-54-173.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 07:00.56 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/2590-video-everything-voting-system-camera-lighting-creep/#p2 |
| 07:00.58 | Coolflip | i ditched your shop pickle |
| 07:00.59 | Coolflip | :*( |
| 07:01.04 | ekcolnovkol | well, i'll post a few photos of the map and you can decide whether or not you want to put him in a slot <3 |
| 07:01.05 | picklefish | no worrise |
| 07:01.08 | picklefish | I have been super busy |
| 07:01.12 | Coolflip | jsut wayyyyy to confusing |
| 07:01.16 | picklefish | haven't touched galaxy editor or site in like 3 weeks |
| 07:01.19 | Reactorex | SixTwo, force reselection via triggers. |
| 07:01.19 | Coolflip | heh |
| 07:01.24 | Coolflip | i feel you |
| 07:01.25 | picklefish | ehh other people used it just fine |
| 07:01.26 | Coolflip | well atleast i used to |
| 07:01.31 | picklefish | sorry I couldn't be more help |
| 07:01.36 | SixTwo | hmm ill try that Reactorex |
| 07:01.37 | Coolflip | its all good |
| 07:01.39 | Reactorex | Or force deselection. |
| 07:01.40 | picklefish | shutting down, peace |
| 07:01.43 | Coolflip | im going for a more wc3 style map anyways |
| 07:01.47 | Coolflip | peace |
| 07:02.06 | Reactorex | Player selects any unit- if any unit is not (your unit here), then select (your unit here) |
| 07:02.15 | Reactorex | Else do nothing :P |
| 07:02.19 | Coolflip | lol |
| 07:02.28 | Coolflip | so you do anything and it selects a given unit |
| 07:02.32 | Reactorex | Sketchy, but the players should never notice. |
| 07:02.33 | Coolflip | that would get quite annoying |
| 07:02.44 | Reactorex | Well, you're not meant to select anything in this case. |
| 07:02.51 | Reactorex | It WOULD in a typical map, though :P |
| 07:03.18 | Coolflip | lol what map would you not select anything |
| 07:03.18 | Coolflip | ? |
| 07:03.28 | Coolflip | oh nvm you select your own unit |
| 07:03.29 | Reactorex | A third person map where you use a single unit. :P |
| 07:03.30 | Sixen | Did you, 12? |
| 07:03.34 | SixTwo | think i fixed it (atleast in my head:P) just a few extra variables to store selection should do it |
| 07:03.36 | Reactorex | ACTUALLY... |
| 07:03.39 | Reactorex | Coolflip... |
| 07:03.45 | Reactorex | I use a system that's based on having no selection. |
| 07:03.51 | Sixen | Hey, onetwo, newb... We have embedded YouTube code, :P. |
| 07:03.53 | Reactorex | Of course, you can select units... |
| 07:04.00 | Coolflip | well than you can select |
| 07:04.00 | Coolflip | lol |
| 07:04.07 | onetwo | i want toforce them to see it in full youtube view |
| 07:04.09 | Reactorex | But when you deselect, the engine becomes useable again. |
| 07:04.10 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:04.36 | Sixen | Oh |
| 07:04.38 | Reactorex | Sixen, do you have embedded SVN code? |
| 07:04.44 | Sixen | I edited your post and left it the link in the thread. |
| 07:04.49 | Sixen | Should I remove? :P |
| 07:06.32 | onetwo | let me see |
| 07:06.54 | onetwo | cool thats perfect |
| 07:07.04 | Sixen | Awesome |
| 07:07.04 | onetwo | too bad you cant embed HD |
| 07:07.05 | Sixen | Will news it too |
| 07:07.06 | onetwo | or can you |
| 07:07.09 | onetwo | no dont |
| 07:07.10 | onetwo | news this one |
| 07:07.11 | Sixen | dont? |
| 07:07.12 | Sixen | oh |
| 07:07.13 | SixTwo | Store unit selection, order ghost move, restore unit selection works, he goes to where i rightclick, however the error is still spamming damn it |
| 07:07.13 | onetwo | im not happy enough with it |
| 07:07.16 | Sixen | Okay |
| 07:07.18 | Reactorex | ... |
| 07:07.19 | Reactorex | onetwo... |
| 07:07.25 | Sixen | Whatever you say boss :P |
| 07:07.32 | Reactorex | I tried what you said with the make a new map and generate the variants... |
| 07:07.32 | onetwo | like advanced tower defense.. okay thats good |
| 07:07.36 | onetwo | but this one is so frenetic |
| 07:07.37 | Reactorex | IT STILL FAILED. |
| 07:07.37 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:07.39 | Reactorex | WHAT THE FUCK? |
| 07:07.39 | Coolflip | omg |
| 07:07.42 | Reactorex | This is SO WEIRD. |
| 07:07.43 | onetwo | wow reactorex |
| 07:07.44 | Coolflip | i still cant make this rifle shoot faster |
| 07:07.47 | onetwo | so its not your map |
| 07:07.49 | Sixen | I think it's worth it, 12, :P. |
| 07:07.51 | onetwo | thx sixen :D |
| 07:07.53 | onetwo | hmm |
| 07:07.54 | Reactorex | My GOD. |
| 07:07.55 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 07:07.58 | Sixen | Up to you though |
| 07:08.00 | Reactorex | WEIRD AS HELL. |
| 07:08.08 | Reactorex | Hhhh.. |
| 07:08.10 | Reactorex | Sheeesh. |
| 07:08.11 | onetwo | next time sixen |
| 07:08.12 | onetwo | thanks again though |
| 07:08.14 | Reactorex | Know what? |
| 07:08.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster FRoZeN (~lul@91.100.29.2.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 07:08.24 | Reactorex | I'm just not going to release any sneak peeks until retail... |
| 07:08.27 | ekcolnovkol | http://yfrog.com/0imwsnap013rp |
| 07:08.28 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:08.33 | Reactorex | But that's going to make it SO hard to test out my stuff. |
| 07:08.39 | Twiner | I don't understand why blizzard handled the key presses the way they did |
| 07:08.41 | Sixen | Okay |
| 07:08.42 | Coolflip | i dont trust that link |
| 07:08.45 | ekcolnovkol | http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5593/mwsnap013r.png |
| 07:08.46 | ekcolnovkol | sorry |
| 07:08.47 | ekcolnovkol | :( |
| 07:08.47 | Lyrrad | Cool - Have you reduced the backswing of the laser rifle? |
| 07:09.01 | Coolflip | dota? |
| 07:09.05 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:09.12 | Coolflip | i was wondering what backswing was |
| 07:09.13 | Coolflip | no |
| 07:09.17 | onetwo | in 30 mins or longer ill be posing a map publishing tutorial |
| 07:09.18 | SixTwo | lol dota :D that looks awesome |
| 07:09.18 | onetwo | sixen |
| 07:09.20 | onetwo | pretty short |
| 07:09.27 | onetwo | might be more useful |
| 07:09.36 | Sixen | Okay, :) |
| 07:09.37 | onetwo | ill put it on tutorials forum and its up to you |
| 07:09.38 | onetwo | if you like it |
| 07:09.39 | Lyrrad | If you lower the backswing it should shoot faster |
| 07:09.46 | Coolflip | well i will test this out |
| 07:09.58 | `3ICE | backswing is the time it takes to charge up mah lazors before i pewpew |
| 07:10.04 | onetwo | im thinking of doing a new style of tutorial where i just show one thing |
| 07:10.07 | onetwo | like tutorial 9: Voting |
| 07:10.10 | onetwo | tutorial 10: Hero |
| 07:10.13 | onetwo | not an entire map |
| 07:10.16 | onetwo | with 50 fricking parts every time |
| 07:10.18 | onetwo | hahha |
| 07:10.27 | Coolflip | still slow |
| 07:10.28 | Coolflip | :( |
| 07:10.38 | `3ICE | i can watch 10 parts in one sitting :) |
| 07:11.04 | Verr82 | Hey guys, has anyone completely their masterpiece of a map and then had no one ever play it due to the popularity system? |
| 07:11.13 | Verr82 | I'm worried the same thing will happen to me when I finish mine. |
| 07:11.21 | `3ICE | just bump it up |
| 07:11.23 | Verr82 | completed* |
| 07:11.28 | Lyrrad | Cool - you have lowered the Period? |
| 07:11.32 | Coolflip | yes |
| 07:11.35 | ekcolnovkol | don't worry about it, the end result is for your portfolio anyway :U |
| 07:11.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Heart_ (~chatzilla@c-98-240-170-62.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 07:11.42 | Reactorex | BTW, onetwo, you can delete specific versions of your map from your account. :> |
| 07:11.43 | Coolflip | .3 period, still shoots the default 1.2 |
| 07:11.49 | Coolflip | i changed the default weapons period to |
| 07:11.53 | Lyrrad | whats the backswing? |
| 07:11.54 | onetwo | oh? |
| 07:11.55 | ekcolnovkol | popularity is a bonus imo |
| 07:11.56 | `3ICE | backswing is the time it takes to charge up mah lazors before i pewpew |
| 07:12.00 | Coolflip | 0 |
| 07:12.03 | Reactorex | Manage Published. |
| 07:12.14 | onetwo | i did that |
| 07:12.22 | Coolflip | guess ill edit the default weapons backswing to |
| 07:12.24 | Reactorex | It'll show version number and, hopefully, the multiple versions available. :> |
| 07:12.24 | onetwo | i removed infection and then republished |
| 07:12.27 | onetwo | all old ones are gone |
| 07:12.36 | onetwo | i didnt see that but ill check next time |
| 07:12.45 | Lyrrad | What about the Random Delay Max and Min? |
| 07:13.02 | `3ICE | my gut tells me that should be zero |
| 07:13.02 | Coolflip | less than .1 |
| 07:13.05 | Coolflip | for both |
| 07:13.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan.W.Ro@pool-71-103-175-254.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 07:13.21 | Lyrrad | The editor hates you then |
| 07:13.26 | Coolflip | :( |
| 07:13.36 | Lyrrad | You are sure you are editing the right weapon |
| 07:13.49 | Coolflip | yea |
| 07:14.09 | Lyrrad | rrow probably screwed something up |
| 07:14.27 | Lyrrad | so blame him |
| 07:14.52 | onetwo | damnit rrow |
| 07:14.57 | onetwo | i had faith in you |
| 07:15.35 | Coolflip | DAMNIT ROW |
| 07:15.49 | heysparky | how do you get a unit to show up in the glossary? |
| 07:16.07 | heysparky | rather... how do you set it's icon? |
| 07:16.12 | Reactorex | rrowland! How could you? |
| 07:16.37 | Coolflip | hmm, hes afk |
| 07:16.43 | Reactorex | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 07:16.45 | Coolflip | we need a new person to lay the blame on |
| 07:16.46 | Reactorex | The editor just crashed on me. |
| 07:16.48 | Coolflip | WTF SIXEN!? |
| 07:17.02 | Reactorex | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....... .com |
| 07:18.13 | Reactorex | I'm out of lemonade. :( |
| 07:18.15 | Lyrrad | I think Sixen is afk too |
| 07:18.34 | Lyrrad | you know, they can't defend themselves when they are afk |
| 07:18.41 | Lyrrad | makes them perfect targets |
| 07:18.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Gohla (~user@53543F60.cable.casema.nl) |
| 07:19.15 | Coolflip | WTF I NEED MA DMAN LAZOR RIFLE |
| 07:19.30 | Lyrrad | Does the unit have any other weapons? |
| 07:19.33 | Sixen | wut |
| 07:19.40 | Sixen | It blinks when I hear my name. |
| 07:19.45 | Lyrrad | Sixen is here, its his fault |
| 07:19.49 | Sixen | my fault |
| 07:19.54 | Coolflip | SIXEN |
| 07:19.55 | Coolflip | GOD DAMNIT |
| 07:19.57 | Coolflip | FIX IT NAO |
| 07:20.00 | `3ICE | feel free to ignore them, they are just joking around |
| 07:20.08 | Grum | they are not! |
| 07:20.09 | Grum | FIX IT! :( |
| 07:20.14 | Lyrrad | Yes, you crashed Reactor's GE, and caused Cool's weapons to fire slowly |
| 07:20.26 | Coolflip | it makes a ding when we say sixen |
| 07:20.29 | Grum | ah so that is what we're fixing |
| 07:20.29 | Coolflip | lets all spam sixen? |
| 07:20.50 | Lyrrad | If we say it twice in 1 line does it ding twice? |
| 07:20.54 | `3ICE | nope |
| 07:21.09 | `3ICE | btw it dings three times in a row if you send him a private msg |
| 07:21.16 | Lyrrad | Cool - Does the unit have any other weapons on it? |
| 07:21.26 | Grum | it also makes him kick you if you do it too often ;) |
| 07:21.33 | Coolflip | its actually an item that equips the weapon |
| 07:21.51 | Lyrrad | Yeah, probably should only do that to people without moderator |
| 07:21.57 | `3ICE | I'm a ` op, I can't be kicked. |
| 07:22.01 | `3ICE | (jk) |
| 07:22.17 | Coolflip | sixen isnt smart enough to do anything |
| 07:22.24 | Lyrrad | I have several weapons like that Cool, and they are fire fine |
| 07:22.24 | Coolflip | i jacked his name earlier when he changed his |
| 07:22.33 | `3ICE | guys let the man do his job/whatever he is doing |
| 07:22.37 | Coolflip | guess i will try redoing the weapon |
| 07:22.51 | Coolflip | lol @ sixen and job in the same sentence |
| 07:23.12 | onetwo | its funny, everytime I upload a tutorial video, I ALWAYS forget my naming convention |
| 07:23.14 | onetwo | and have to recheck it |
| 07:23.16 | `3ICE | running websites is considered a full time occupation |
| 07:23.36 | Coolflip | unless you hire people to do it |
| 07:23.40 | Coolflip | ;) |
| 07:23.42 | Reactorex | sigh |
| 07:23.48 | `3ICE | managing those people is also considered a... |
| 07:23.50 | `3ICE | i win |
| 07:23.59 | Reactorex | Uplaod Error: [timestamp], Header is corrupt (Hard drive location) |
| 07:24.10 | Reactorex | -_- |
| 07:24.15 | Coolflip | lol |
| 07:24.24 | Coolflip | solution #1: Reformat harddrive |
| 07:24.34 | `3ICE | solution 2: retimestamp your clock |
| 07:24.42 | Coolflip | shh |
| 07:25.13 | Coolflip | omg i hate songs that seem like they are about to get all intense than back off |
| 07:25.23 | `3ICE | thats like bad sex |
| 07:25.43 | Coolflip | sure.......whatever you say |
| 07:26.08 | Lyrrad | Cool - Does the unit you put the item on have a default weapon? |
| 07:27.41 | Sixen | Hey now. |
| 07:27.43 | Sixen | Coolflip is being mean. |
| 07:28.08 | Sixen | Thanks Ice, :) |
| 07:28.37 | `3ICE | hmm that didn't make my computr beep |
| 07:28.42 | `3ICE | adds "ice" to watchlist |
| 07:29.46 | Sixen | :P |
| 07:29.48 | ekcolnovkol | i noticed that someone tried to implement an item system |
| 07:30.02 | ekcolnovkol | with the items ultimately having no display zone |
| 07:30.48 | onetwo | lol this is funny |
| 07:30.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster Motive (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 07:30.55 | onetwo | for my publishing tutorial |
| 07:30.59 | onetwo | i put black rectangles |
| 07:31.00 | onetwo | over my account name |
| 07:31.11 | onetwo | and email |
| 07:31.14 | onetwo | not for people-purposes |
| 07:31.21 | onetwo | just never know whos watching my youtube channel |
| 07:31.25 | onetwo | like some spammer |
| 07:31.26 | onetwo | or something |
| 07:31.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster FRoZeN (~lul@91.100.29.2.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 07:31.42 | Lyrrad | I'm not getting the joke |
| 07:31.45 | Reactorex | WHY must this be so annoying? |
| 07:31.55 | `3ICE | they dont bother doing ocr on videos for email harvesting. |
| 07:32.01 | Pandepic | but Reactor, the data editor is so easy isn't it? <3 |
| 07:32.07 | `3ICE | (ocr=Optical character recognition) |
| 07:32.08 | onetwo | ah |
| 07:32.11 | Reactorex | It is. |
| 07:32.13 | Reactorex | Publisher isn't. |
| 07:32.18 | onetwo | its just funny that i have like 90 views on my videos |
| 07:32.20 | onetwo | and im blocking my email |
| 07:32.23 | onetwo | like im important |
| 07:32.25 | Reactorex | Damn header.... |
| 07:32.25 | Pandepic | oh, thought you were still talking about your weapon =P |
| 07:32.26 | Sixen | :P |
| 07:32.26 | onetwo | when im not |
| 07:32.32 | Reactorex | Pft. |
| 07:32.35 | `3ICE | you are |
| 07:32.35 | Reactorex | I don't have a weapon. |
| 07:32.38 | `3ICE | i'd miss your tutorials |
| 07:32.44 | Sixen | brb guys. |
| 07:32.49 | Reactorex | I planned on going to bed by midnight. |
| 07:32.52 | Reactorex | It's 2:30 AM now. |
| 07:32.53 | Lyrrad | Cool was taking about his weapon, and how it doesn't work properly |
| 07:32.55 | Reactorex | :/ |
| 07:32.56 | `3ICE | they are good for background noise :P |
| 07:33.01 | Pandepic | oh |
| 07:33.05 | Pandepic | ignore me then |
| 07:33.12 | Reactorex | I hate this publisher. =/ |
| 07:33.15 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:33.16 | Reactorex | Anyone else? |
| 07:33.17 | `3ICE | so do we all |
| 07:33.21 | onetwo | i dont mind it |
| 07:33.24 | Pandepic | I have the same error Reactor |
| 07:33.48 | Reactorex | I've been over 8 hours trying to fix it over the course of two and a half days. |
| 07:34.31 | `3ICE | is it so important to get your map out in the beta Reactorex? |
| 07:34.37 | `3ICE | just make it and release it once sc2 comes out |
| 07:34.47 | Reactorex | It's locked and private. |
| 07:34.53 | Reactorex | I'm not releasing it to public. |
| 07:34.55 | Reactorex | I'm testing it. |
| 07:34.57 | `3ICE | oh |
| 07:35.01 | Pandepic | bah, can't find where to set weapon sound effects |
| 07:35.08 | `3ICE | hehe i dont need to test my maps they all work fine |
| 07:35.14 | Reactorex | I've done single player tests, but I need certain multiplayer tests w/o passing it around. |
| 07:35.16 | Lyrrad | The sounds are on the actor |
| 07:35.24 | Pandepic | which one is for the weapon though? |
| 07:35.30 | ekcolnovkol | someone explain to me how to set up triggers <<" |
| 07:35.38 | onetwo | hey reactorex |
| 07:35.39 | Lyrrad | Go to the weapons tab and find your weapon |
| 07:35.39 | `3ICE | ekcolnovkol thats a broad topic |
| 07:35.41 | `3ICE | narrow it down |
| 07:35.45 | onetwo | did you try publishing as unlocked and public |
| 07:35.46 | onetwo | with another map |
| 07:35.48 | onetwo | just to see |
| 07:35.57 | ekcolnovkol | map starts, spawn mobs, attack to area |
| 07:36.00 | Reactorex | I managed to get one map published. |
| 07:36.00 | Lyrrad | The actor will be listed below in the tree view |
| 07:36.01 | ekcolnovkol | ez mode |
| 07:36.01 | onetwo | like as soon as my tutorial goes up in a few mins |
| 07:36.03 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:36.05 | Reactorex | It was locked and private. |
| 07:36.05 | onetwo | nvm then |
| 07:36.08 | onetwo | oh k |
| 07:36.09 | ekcolnovkol | and repeat ever 20 seconds |
| 07:36.11 | Pandepic | ohh the weapon's actor |
| 07:36.14 | Reactorex | locked/unlocked and public/private doesn't make a difference. |
| 07:36.14 | Pandepic | I was looking at the marine actor |
| 07:36.20 | `3ICE | event: map init: actions wait 5sec, unit - create unit group - issue order targeting point -- done |
| 07:36.43 | ekcolnovkol | where do i start :x |
| 07:36.53 | ekcolnovkol | i picked up editor only 6 hours ago |
| 07:36.55 | ekcolnovkol | btw |
| 07:36.56 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 07:36.56 | `3ICE | trigger editor -- CTRL+T |
| 07:37.05 | `3ICE | tht creates a new trigger |
| 07:37.08 | Lyrrad | whops, sorry Pandepic, its on the effect for the weapon |
| 07:37.15 | `3ICE | click on event, press CTRL+W to make one |
| 07:37.21 | Lyrrad | Marine - Gauss Rifle(Damage) |
| 07:37.32 | ekcolnovkol | um |
| 07:37.38 | ekcolnovkol | ctrl+T makes my cliffs turn spiky |
| 07:37.40 | Pandepic | there's no Sounds field there |
| 07:37.40 | ekcolnovkol | x_X |
| 07:37.44 | `3ICE | by the way you should watch an "introduction to triggers" tutorial on youtube |
| 07:37.53 | `3ICE | would help a lot |
| 07:37.55 | Reactorex | Nnnngh -.- |
| 07:37.57 | ekcolnovkol | i just hit f6 for triggers |
| 07:38.11 | ekcolnovkol | ah i got it |
| 07:38.23 | Pandepic | are you sure it's on the effect? |
| 07:38.33 | onetwo | you know itd be great if youtube let me be a full partner |
| 07:38.35 | `3ICE | not the actor? |
| 07:38.35 | onetwo | to upload 40 min tutorials |
| 07:38.37 | onetwo | in one video |
| 07:38.40 | onetwo | instead of 10 min segments |
| 07:38.46 | `3ICE | onetwo get 101000000 subscripbers :) |
| 07:38.52 | `3ICE | -p |
| 07:39.02 | onetwo | did you hear me talking earlier |
| 07:39.07 | onetwo | they invited me to be a partner for one video |
| 07:39.13 | onetwo | theres per-video partnership too |
| 07:39.15 | Lyrrad | There is a Sound option in the Impact +\ |
| 07:39.22 | Lyrrad | for Marine Attack |
| 07:39.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Six-Two (~a@dhcp-077-251-255-225.chello.nl) |
| 07:39.25 | onetwo | simple tower D part 3 randomly |
| 07:39.26 | onetwo | got chosen |
| 07:39.28 | onetwo | i dont know why |
| 07:39.33 | onetwo | but then i have to apply still |
| 07:39.39 | onetwo | and theyll review it |
| 07:39.42 | onetwo | so im really confused |
| 07:39.43 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:40.12 | Pandepic | can you give me a quick list of clicks to get there? |
| 07:40.16 | Pandepic | I just can't see it lol |
| 07:40.23 | Pandepic | I can see impact location effect and value |
| 07:40.25 | Lyrrad | WHat view are you using? |
| 07:40.33 | Pandepic | the one that isn't raw |
| 07:40.42 | Lyrrad | switch to Raw |
| 07:40.47 | Lyrrad | for now at least |
| 07:40.56 | Reactorex | Top left, down ten pixels, over to the right and a bit of a twist to the left and down, thirty-five pixels toward the top left of your monitor, then down all the way. |
| 07:40.59 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:40.59 | onetwo | i dont think ill get 1001010010 subscribers 3ice |
| 07:41.08 | onetwo | i have a small base |
| 07:41.09 | onetwo | that cares |
| 07:41.17 | `3ICE | that'll grow :) |
| 07:41.23 | Pandepic | ok |
| 07:41.25 | onetwo | i dont know... editing |
| 07:41.27 | onetwo | is pretty specific |
| 07:41.29 | `3ICE | I subscribed to you, so will others |
| 07:41.29 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 07:41.31 | onetwo | we'll see i guess |
| 07:41.33 | onetwo | thx |
| 07:41.40 | Lyrrad | Find Impact Map + and open it up |
| 07:41.40 | Pandepic | I still don't see it though |
| 07:41.49 | Pandepic | I don't have that field |
| 07:41.51 | ekcolnovkol | changeling - transforms into enemy hero farthest away from you |
| 07:41.53 | Reactorex | Surprisingly, I still haven't subscrinbed. xD |
| 07:42.00 | Lyrrad | Make sure you have advanced values on |
| 07:42.02 | Reactorex | For that matter, I haven't been on youtube in a week, either. |
| 07:42.04 | Pandepic | ohh |
| 07:42.07 | ekcolnovkol | you are seen as green by the enemy, but can be attacked |
| 07:42.10 | `3ICE | i live on youtube :) |
| 07:42.14 | Reactorex | Well, half a waeek. |
| 07:42.16 | Reactorex | week* |
| 07:42.17 | Pandepic | wait |
| 07:42.20 | Pandepic | advanced was already on |
| 07:42.35 | onetwo | husky has 1 subsriber: 323 viewers |
| 07:42.40 | Pandepic | can you screenshot the field for me? |
| 07:42.43 | Reactorex | Does anyone have an aspirin? |
| 07:42.44 | onetwo | i have 1 subscriber : 167 viewers |
| 07:42.46 | Lyrrad | are you looking at the Actor "Marine Attack"? |
| 07:42.53 | onetwo | so my ratio is higher atm |
| 07:42.57 | onetwo | meaning less random viewers |
| 07:43.02 | onetwo | but i have 200 subscribers, husky has 70,000 |
| 07:43.06 | Reactorex | This dang publisher is a pain. |
| 07:43.07 | onetwo | and hes not even a partner because he has game content |
| 07:43.07 | Triceron | I have an aspirin in my pants, you can come get it |
| 07:43.12 | Pandepic | I was looking at the weapon's effect |
| 07:43.18 | onetwo | but im doing educational so i have hope |
| 07:43.18 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:43.21 | Reactorex | I'm convinced that the only way to fix it now is pain killer. |
| 07:43.33 | `3ICE | Don't overdose too much. |
| 07:43.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Clord (~Clord@62-165-184-40.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 07:43.55 | Reactorex | Maybe if I overdose, the system will get confused and actually publish instead of failing. |
| 07:43.58 | Clord | people are joining to maps like headless chickens |
| 07:44.09 | Reactorex | While it THINKS it failed on me. |
| 07:44.09 | Clord | now my risk map is played |
| 07:44.30 | Lyrrad | Pand - Are you looking at the actor now? |
| 07:44.43 | `3ICE | here comes Clord with his usual rant: "popularity system sucks" :) we know! |
| 07:44.43 | Clord | :) |
| 07:44.43 | Pandepic | yep |
| 07:44.43 | Clord | nah I'm happy |
| 07:44.44 | Pandepic | I see the sounds now |
| 07:44.46 | Clord | that I have some map played today |
| 07:44.48 | Clord | :) |
| 07:44.51 | `3ICE | ncie work on figuring out how to abuse it though |
| 07:44.53 | Lyrrad | Found "Impact Map +" |
| 07:45.20 | Clord | lol ice..... it is not just rant... it is fact ;) |
| 07:45.21 | Clord | lol |
| 07:45.22 | Clord | XD |
| 07:45.23 | Pandepic | yep |
| 07:45.29 | Lyrrad | ok, open it up |
| 07:45.30 | Pandepic | thanks =) |
| 07:45.37 | Pandepic | it's ok, I know what to do now |
| 07:45.45 | `3ICE | my english isn't perfect. |
| 07:45.46 | Lyrrad | Well the sounds seem to be scattered in a couple places |
| 07:45.53 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLSq6ipLTTo |
| 07:45.56 | onetwo | map publishing tutorial |
| 07:46.01 | onetwo | still low quality for a couple mins |
| 07:46.25 | Lyrrad | Another sound is in "Launch Assets +" |
| 07:46.27 | Pandepic | so where is the actor linked to the weapon? |
| 07:46.41 | Clord | next time I probably update my maps is when game is released.... gets few weeks time to work with them |
| 07:46.59 | Lyrrad | See up at the top of the Data? the token area? |
| 07:47.01 | ekcolnovkol | what's the "triggering unit" |
| 07:47.27 | Pandepic | yeah |
| 07:47.53 | Lyrrad | Thats where you set the actor to an effect |
| 07:47.57 | Reactorex | Onetwo! |
| 07:48.03 | Reactorex | You suck. :| :P |
| 07:48.08 | Reactorex | You said "And you click OK" and clicked cancel! |
| 07:48.08 | Pandepic | wow that's a bad way to link them |
| 07:48.09 | Lyrrad | and then you need to add the effect to the weapon |
| 07:48.25 | onetwo | well i already had it set |
| 07:48.29 | onetwo | i thought that was implied |
| 07:48.30 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:48.36 | Reactorex | xD |
| 07:48.36 | Lyrrad | Blizzard must have had their reasons |
| 07:50.20 | Ignorance | Are there any models that look like blue flames? |
| 07:50.44 | Lyrrad | Like the flamethrower flames, or a campfire flame? |
| 07:50.51 | Lyrrad | or a burning building flame? |
| 07:50.55 | rrowland | Hellion attack with upgrade |
| 07:51.25 | Lyrrad | Does the upgraded Hellion have a blue flame? |
| 07:51.35 | `3ICE | yep |
| 07:51.49 | Lyrrad | not sure I have ever seen one |
| 07:51.59 | `3ICE | you dont paly enough :) |
| 07:52.00 | rrowland | It was new in patch 10 or so |
| 07:52.00 | Ignorance | 3ICE, what's it called? |
| 07:52.12 | Ignorance | lol at arcade powerup |
| 07:52.14 | `3ICE | hold on, googling it |
| 07:52.14 | Ignorance | best model ever |
| 07:52.16 | Lyrrad | I hardly ever play melee |
| 07:52.20 | Pandepic | thanks Lyrrad =) |
| 07:52.29 | Pandepic | that's such an obscure link |
| 07:52.30 | `3ICE | Infernal Pre-Igniter |
| 07:52.48 | HyBReD | (7:11:28 PM) RickA: Twiner, Go rip off Hybred's Sanctum spell. Everybod's doing it. |
| 07:52.49 | HyBReD | =( |
| 07:52.57 | Lyrrad | np, you can just send me a cheque for the consulting fee |
| 07:52.59 | `3ICE | so it took me 15 seconds to find it on google, thats way too slow... |
| 07:52.59 | Ignorance | danke |
| 07:53.15 | Pandepic | =P |
| 07:55.19 | Reactorex | -_- |
| 07:55.32 | Reactorex | OK. |
| 07:55.39 | Reactorex | Publisher definitely hates me. |
| 07:55.53 | rrowland | Hmm |
| 07:56.15 | Lyrrad | Same problem? or a new one? |
| 07:56.20 | rrowland | Anyone know a way to get the current attack target of a unit, without using the "Acquires Target" trigger? |
| 07:56.25 | Reactorex | Same. |
| 07:56.30 | Reactorex | Nothing I do gets rid of it. |
| 07:56.44 | onetwo | im guessing its an install problem reactorex |
| 07:56.56 | onetwo | something in the filesystem |
| 07:56.57 | onetwo | messed up |
| 07:57.02 | onetwo | because you couldnt upload a basic map |
| 07:57.15 | onetwo | rrowland, i can only think of storing it |
| 07:57.17 | onetwo | when they do acquire |
| 07:57.21 | onetwo | off the bat |
| 07:57.35 | onetwo | OR |
| 07:57.36 | Reactorex | I was able to upload a map that had absolutely no changes to it. |
| 07:57.39 | onetwo | you could |
| 07:57.40 | rrowland | I was thinking of that, but I want to port this into an actual computer AI later |
| 07:57.41 | Reactorex | A complete blank map. |
| 07:57.42 | onetwo | take the unit |
| 07:57.46 | rrowland | Not sure if that'd work |
| 07:57.47 | onetwo | k |
| 07:57.47 | onetwo | so |
| 07:58.21 | onetwo | hmm |
| 07:58.42 | onetwo | its hard because someone could attack a unit |
| 07:58.43 | onetwo | way across the map |
| 07:58.50 | onetwo | so cant do any facing/closest unit |
| 07:58.53 | onetwo | detection |
| 07:59.12 | rrowland | Well this is what I'm using it for, mainly (although I'm sure I'll need to implement it again later) |
| 07:59.14 | Reactorex | You can do facing/closest unit detection within range. |
| 07:59.29 | rrowland | I'm getting the total potential damage of all units attacking a certain unit |
| 07:59.43 | rrowland | So that if it's within a certain range of my unit's HP, I micro it back |
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| 08:00.45 | onetwo | thats advanced |
| 08:00.45 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 08:00.45 | heysparky | are there any advantages (like some kind of engine overhead) to making computer players that are entirely scripted Hostile instead of Computer? |
| 08:00.45 | rrowland | I want to make an insane computer without cheats |
| 08:00.45 | onetwo | think about game lag too though |
| 08:00.45 | onetwo | i would think even of acquiring target |
| 08:00.47 | onetwo | then have a custom value for unit |
| 08:00.50 | onetwo | each unit |
| 08:00.52 | onetwo | and add to it |
| 08:00.53 | rrowland | No game lag for single player |
| 08:00.59 | onetwo | based on acquire |
| 08:00.59 | rrowland | Might cause some lag on bnet in big battles |
| 08:01.06 | onetwo | k |
| 08:01.12 | onetwo | im thinking you have to go acquire target event |
| 08:01.19 | rrowland | Yeah I was thinking that, but how do I specify a unit in custom values? It's fixed only |
| 08:01.31 | rrowland | I'd have to make a global array |
| 08:01.34 | rrowland | Of the computer's unit |
| 08:01.34 | onetwo | when a unit is produced |
| 08:01.35 | rrowland | s |
| 08:01.39 | onetwo | set its custom value |
| 08:01.43 | onetwo | based on upgrades too |
| 08:01.58 | onetwo | so then its set |
| 08:01.59 | onetwo | from then on |
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| 08:02.31 | rrowland | Upgrades? |
| 08:03.21 | rrowland | sparky, if you code it in trigger editor it's not portable to other maps as AI |
| 08:03.36 | rrowland | I'm doing it in triggers now but I plan to port it to AI files when it's done |
| 08:03.43 | rrowland | So it can be plugged in and used as a computer |
| 08:04.12 | onetwo | i know nothing about AI files |
| 08:04.16 | onetwo | triggers is as far as i g |
| 08:04.17 | onetwo | go |
| 08:04.17 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:04.23 | rrowland | Well they're galaxy |
| 08:04.28 | Ignorance | mmm |
| 08:04.34 | rrowland | But I don't think you can have global vars |
| 08:04.38 | Ignorance | infernal pre-igniter doesn't seem to show all the time, blah |
| 08:04.38 | rrowland | Maybe you can |
| 08:04.44 | Ignorance | could just be my graphics settings |
| 08:04.47 | Ignorance | mmm |
| 08:04.50 | onetwo | do you need global vars? |
| 08:04.53 | onetwo | let me think this through |
| 08:04.59 | Reactorex | Woohoo. |
| 08:05.03 | Reactorex | I get to go to bed by 3 AM. |
| 08:05.09 | Ignorance | I need a red fire that appears on all graphics settings and a blue fire that appeas on all graphics settings. |
| 08:05.10 | Reactorex | It finally damn uploaded. |
| 08:05.15 | onetwo | wow |
| 08:05.17 | onetwo | how? |
| 08:05.19 | Reactorex | And I have no idea what specific change fixed it. |
| 08:05.24 | Reactorex | -.- |
| 08:05.28 | Reactorex | Good night. |
| 08:05.37 | onetwo | 1. unit is produced/created, set its custom value to w/e its weapon damage is, have to look it up from data editor. |
| 08:05.40 | onetwo | night |
| 08:05.48 | Reactorex | Actually... |
| 08:05.49 | Reactorex | I do. |
| 08:05.51 | onetwo | 2. unit is acquired, add to the targeted units custom value 1 |
| 08:05.58 | onetwo | and from point 1, it's custom value 0 |
| 08:06.11 | onetwo | then check if that custom value 1 for the targeted unit is > a certain amount |
| 08:06.11 | Reactorex | It was bugged when I had the default generated game variants. |
| 08:06.13 | onetwo | whatever you deem |
| 08:06.16 | onetwo | based on its hp or w/e |
| 08:06.17 | Reactorex | As soon as I switched to an other, it worked. |
| 08:06.19 | onetwo | then order it to go away |
| 08:06.20 | rrowland | The problem is figuring out which units are targeting, not getting the unit's damage |
| 08:06.28 | onetwo | itll be all based on custom value |
| 08:06.32 | onetwo | which youll have set earlier |
| 08:06.35 | onetwo | in trigger 1 |
| 08:06.39 | rrowland | If I know which units are targeting it's just as easy for me to get the weapon damage as it is to get a custom value |
| 08:06.43 | onetwo | youll know their "strength" |
| 08:06.58 | onetwo | maybe im not getting your idea right |
| 08:07.18 | rrowland | Well the problem is I have no way of telling which units are attacking a given unit |
| 08:07.20 | Reactorex | Default game variants are bugged. |
| 08:07.20 | rrowland | At a given time |
| 08:07.26 | Reactorex | Mmk? |
| 08:07.40 | onetwo | hmm but rowland |
| 08:07.43 | rrowland | So if I don't know who's attacking, I can't get their custom values |
| 08:07.58 | onetwo | Unit Acquires target |
| 08:08.02 | onetwo | you can know the acquiring unit right? |
| 08:08.05 | onetwo | and the targeted unit |
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| 08:08.10 | onetwo | ? |
| 08:08.14 | rrowland | Yes |
| 08:08.22 | onetwo | okay good |
| 08:08.47 | onetwo | so say 2 mutalisks are spawned, you set each custom value 0 to 8.5 (arbitrary number atm) |
| 08:08.57 | onetwo | then they acquire a zealot |
| 08:09.01 | onetwo | the trigger 1. runs |
| 08:09.08 | onetwo | adds 8.5 to custom value 1 of zealot |
| 08:09.11 | onetwo | and then another 8.5 for 2nd muta |
| 08:09.15 | onetwo | and upon each trigger run |
| 08:09.19 | onetwo | it checks if its over a threshold |
| 08:09.28 | onetwo | maybe > hp of zealot |
| 08:09.28 | rrowland | And then if they stop targeting? |
| 08:09.32 | onetwo | subtract |
| 08:09.47 | onetwo | and if its over threshhold, order zealot to run away |
| 08:09.49 | rrowland | How do I know they stopped targeting? |
| 08:09.50 | Lyrrad | ok, well it is time for me to head to bed |
| 08:09.53 | onetwo | not sure about that one |
| 08:09.56 | Lyrrad | Good night all |
| 08:09.57 | rrowland | Since I don't know what unit they were attacking in the first place |
| 08:10.02 | onetwo | unt issued order, condition order!= attack |
| 08:10.02 | heysparky | gnight Lyrrad |
| 08:10.03 | rrowland | I can't tell if they targeted something else |
| 08:10.04 | onetwo | hmm |
| 08:10.04 | rrowland | Night |
| 08:10.06 | onetwo | night |
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| 08:10.13 | onetwo | true |
| 08:10.14 | rrowland | I think this is what I'm going to do |
| 08:10.19 | onetwo | well the stopped targeting im at a loss |
| 08:10.23 | rrowland | Have one iterator |
| 08:10.28 | rrowland | Well |
| 08:10.32 | rrowland | That'd be a global var |
| 08:10.35 | rrowland | But anyway |
| 08:10.47 | rrowland | Every time a unit is made for the computer, set one custom value as its ID |
| 08:11.06 | onetwo | k |
| 08:11.15 | rrowland | And when the player's unit targets a computer unit, its custom value representing its target changes to that target's ID |
| 08:11.22 | onetwo | k |
| 08:11.46 | rrowland | Then when it targets something else or deselects, that custom value is set to -1 |
| 08:12.05 | rrowland | So I can search for all units with the custom value equal to the target unit I'm checking |
| 08:12.09 | onetwo | so do a "unit issued order" and condition target unit owner != computer player |
| 08:12.11 | onetwo | to set it to -1 |
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| 08:12.44 | rrowland | Yeah, I don't know how target acquired works |
| 08:12.44 | onetwo | to determine if player deselected |
| 08:12.45 | onetwo | etc |
| 08:12.53 | rrowland | I'm not sure if it runs when deselecting a target or not |
| 08:12.57 | onetwo | k |
| 08:12.58 | rrowland | But if it doesn't I can do it that way |
| 08:13.38 | onetwo | k gonna go sleep |
| 08:13.39 | onetwo | gl with that |
| 08:14.10 | Clord | intializing melee AI.... maybe not XD |
| 08:15.03 | ekcolnovkol | is is possible to have multiple players own a single unit, say, like a production building, and have the building produce units for each player simultaneously |
| 08:15.24 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 08:20.58 | Clord | basics first.... from larva to drone |
| 08:20.58 | Clord | XD |
| 08:21.03 | ekcolnovkol | bah |
| 08:21.08 | Clord | this AI would not yet beat even noob |
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| 08:22.18 | Flope | how come my loading screen image works fine but my map preview image is just a solid purple |
| 08:22.21 | Flope | theyre both tga |
| 08:22.29 | Flope | is map preview supposed to be a different type? |
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| 08:23.51 | Flope | anyone? |
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| 08:30.53 | Clord | this is odd.... I intialized campaign AI and they like to build at least one of every structure |
| 08:30.55 | Clord | without telling them |
| 08:30.56 | Clord | XD |
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| 08:33.40 | heysparky | Dunno Flope |
| 08:36.01 | Reactorex | ekcolnovkol, you can simulate the effect. |
| 08:36.28 | Reactorex | Share control without telling the player when they select it and then remove control when they select multiple or select something else. |
| 08:36.57 | Reactorex | When units are produced from it (unit finishes production), create the same unit for each player owning it. |
| 08:37.05 | Reactorex | Or you can use a scrap computer player. |
| 08:37.11 | Reactorex | And use the same create method. |
| 08:37.26 | Reactorex | Also, I found out a lot of what can break publishing. |
| 08:37.30 | Reactorex | Good morning, I'm going to bed. |
| 08:37.44 | Reactorex | 3:40 AM and my only real accomplishment is being annoyed. |
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| 08:42.36 | heysparky | gnight Reactor |
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| 08:42.45 | heysparky | thanks for the help earlier |
| 08:44.06 | Sixen | Back |
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| 08:54.10 | Clord | lol my AI does not really take orders from me |
| 08:54.50 | `3ICE | You gotta break it in... Show it who's boss 'round here! |
| 08:55.21 | Clord | one way is to take entire campaign AI intialization away but |
| 08:55.28 | Clord | then I need manually trigger ability using |
| 08:55.29 | Clord | lol |
| 08:55.53 | ekcolnovkol | yay i figured out timers |
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| 08:55.59 | ekcolnovkol | but i fail at determining control groups |
| 08:56.17 | ekcolnovkol | and i can't create timers based on data tables |
| 08:56.18 | ekcolnovkol | :< |
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| 08:56.36 | SixTwo | I had alot of problems iwth data tables, |
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| 08:56.44 | ekcolnovkol | enlighten me |
| 08:56.45 | Clord | hehe reminds me of those maps where variables are way overused |
| 08:56.55 | Beider | anyone know if there is a way to run two copies of the editor at once? |
| 08:57.04 | Clord | nah |
| 08:57.06 | Clord | it ignores second |
| 08:57.06 | SixTwo | what people told me is to avoid using them, because apparantlly triggers are read before data tables are populated, or something like that |
| 08:57.41 | `3ICE | i run two copies of the editor by having two computers :) |
| 08:57.42 | ekcolnovkol | so just stick with "ever 5 seconds" ? |
| 08:57.48 | `3ICE | it is very very very useful to have two editors |
| 08:57.55 | ekcolnovkol | how so |
| 08:58.02 | `3ICE | i was angry when i saw we still after all this time couldnt open two editors w/o tricks |
| 08:58.19 | SixTwo | why would you want 2 editors tho ? |
| 08:58.22 | Beider | I am not sure my second comp can run the editor very well, well maybe if I don't open terrain |
| 08:58.29 | `3ICE | look up stuff in one while doing stuff in the other |
| 08:58.33 | Beider | aye |
| 08:58.35 | Clord | he is double as addicted |
| 08:58.36 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starcraft-tribute/. Starcraft Tribute. gh0st00 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 08:58.36 | Clord | ;) |
| 08:58.39 | `3ICE | like seeing a list of all my units in data editor while i trigger |
| 08:58.40 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/reaperxzergling-race/. ReaperXZergling Race. gh0st00 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 08:58.47 | Clord | okay |
| 08:58.54 | Beider | Personally I want to re-code one of my UI elements as a library |
| 08:59.04 | Sixen | 3ice, what trick? |
| 08:59.05 | Beider | and would like to have old code open when writing new |
| 08:59.09 | `3ICE | virtualPC |
| 08:59.16 | Sixen | Or :( |
| 08:59.17 | Sixen | Oh* |
| 08:59.23 | Sixen | I use dual-monitors :) |
| 08:59.28 | `3ICE | i used that before getting my second PC a lot |
| 08:59.40 | `3ICE | dual monitors cant see two data editor tabs at the same time |
| 08:59.40 | Sixen | Yeah, I love it |
| 08:59.42 | ekcolnovkol | i have quad monitors :D |
| 08:59.43 | `3ICE | virtualpc can :) |
| 08:59.47 | SixTwo | im on 2 monitors aswell, never saw the need for 2 editors but i understand now |
| 08:59.50 | ekcolnovkol | one of them is 46" |
| 08:59.50 | Sixen | Hah. And Quad? :O |
| 08:59.54 | ekcolnovkol | <3 |
| 08:59.55 | Sixen | o_O |
| 09:00.07 | Sixen | Playing on a TV? :P |
| 09:00.15 | ekcolnovkol | it makes me baller |
| 09:00.23 | Sixen | :) |
| 09:00.35 | ekcolnovkol | map editing on the TV is awesome |
| 09:00.37 | `3ICE | with so much stuff to look at you easily get lost between the screens |
| 09:00.53 | ekcolnovkol | well i usually have documents up on the smaller screens |
| 09:01.48 | ekcolnovkol | and the TV i only use for entertainment really, or when i'm assembling powerpoints |
| 09:01.52 | Clord | I have one monitor, one keyboard, one mouse... trinity |
| 09:01.54 | Clord | XD |
| 09:01.56 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 09:02.05 | ekcolnovkol | you forgot the CPU |
| 09:02.13 | ekcolnovkol | *PC |
| 09:02.15 | `3ICE | and the gpu and the ram and the fan and the... |
| 09:02.31 | `3ICE | speakers and the microphone and the cords and the psu |
| 09:02.38 | Clord | my ram is full... can't install game |
| 09:02.43 | Clord | ;) |
| 09:02.43 | ekcolnovkol | and the rubber gromets that go on the bottom of your case |
| 09:02.44 | ekcolnovkol | .. ram? |
| 09:02.47 | `3ICE | ram is memory |
| 09:02.48 | `3ICE | not hdd |
| 09:02.51 | Clord | yeah |
| 09:02.51 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 09:03.00 | Clord | I parody those who think ram is HDD space |
| 09:03.04 | Clord | there is tons of them in the world |
| 09:03.04 | Clord | XD |
| 09:03.06 | ekcolnovkol | i see |
| 09:03.13 | ekcolnovkol | well |
| 09:03.16 | `3ICE | install never looks at at current ram, only at total ram |
| 09:03.17 | `3ICE | oh |
| 09:03.17 | ekcolnovkol | SDDs will change that |
| 09:03.18 | Clord | usually technical support nuisances |
| 09:03.19 | `3ICE | i c i c |
| 09:03.28 | ekcolnovkol | solid state |
| 09:03.30 | ekcolnovkol | you must have it |
| 09:03.32 | ekcolnovkol | like |
| 09:03.36 | ekcolnovkol | no comparison |
| 09:03.38 | ekcolnovkol | fff |
| 09:03.45 | Clord | speaking of HDD space used... few terabytesa |
| 09:03.49 | Clord | terabytes... |
| 09:04.06 | ekcolnovkol | you should clean up some'o that junk |
| 09:04.11 | ekcolnovkol | like |
| 09:04.15 | ekcolnovkol | movies you will never watch again |
| 09:04.17 | `3ICE | i love my hdd setup, it only takes a couple min to do a search on the entire drive |
| 09:04.24 | ekcolnovkol | raid 2? |
| 09:04.27 | `3ICE | with your terabytes, i'd never find anything |
| 09:04.36 | ekcolnovkol | buy an SDD |
| 09:04.37 | ekcolnovkol | ;D |
| 09:04.43 | ekcolnovkol | search = 2 seconds |
| 09:04.49 | ekcolnovkol | less |
| 09:05.00 | `3ICE | give me money and i'll buy it |
| 09:05.15 | Clord | movies I never watch again? you tell me you can get th em other than from shops?!? ;) |
| 09:05.19 | ekcolnovkol | hands '3ICE a virtural 750$ bill |
| 09:05.25 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:05.33 | ekcolnovkol | demonoid is your friend |
| 09:05.34 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 09:05.43 | Clord | bah... that is just one of many |
| 09:05.44 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:05.52 | ekcolnovkol | what do you use? |
| 09:05.52 | `3ICE | google ftw |
| 09:05.56 | `3ICE | i use google |
| 09:06.00 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 09:06.02 | ekcolnovkol | well |
| 09:06.06 | ekcolnovkol | everbody uses google |
| 09:06.07 | Clord | I use coffee |
| 09:06.08 | ekcolnovkol | <_> |
| 09:06.10 | Clord | ;) |
| 09:06.12 | `3ICE | but isohunt is my main source |
| 09:06.20 | ekcolnovkol | isohunt got dummed down alot |
| 09:06.24 | Clord | that typical rlslog etc |
| 09:06.24 | `3ICE | i used thepiratebay but its dying a painful painful death |
| 09:06.26 | ekcolnovkol | it's called isohunt Lite now |
| 09:06.45 | ekcolnovkol | demonoid is the only one standing tall :D |
| 09:06.55 | ekcolnovkol | or rather |
| 09:06.57 | ekcolnovkol | lying low |
| 09:07.17 | Clord | owners of those places takes quite risks |
| 09:07.23 | Clord | like demonoid |
| 09:07.24 | ekcolnovkol | they also don't live in the US |
| 09:07.26 | ekcolnovkol | ;) |
| 09:07.37 | Clord | well.. it would be rather stupid to keep torrent site in US |
| 09:07.38 | Clord | XD |
| 09:07.44 | Clord | thanks to their laws |
| 09:08.06 | rrowland | Uhh no way to get a unit's damage in triggers? |
| 09:08.08 | rrowland | ungh |
| 09:08.20 | `3ICE | that must be possible with catalogs |
| 09:08.28 | Clord | damage amount |
| 09:08.30 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:08.33 | `3ICE | i really should use catalogs at least once just to see if they even work :D |
| 09:08.34 | Clord | I use it for flying numbers |
| 09:09.00 | rrowland | I have no idea what a catalog is |
| 09:09.03 | rrowland | lols |
| 09:09.05 | `3ICE | me neither :) |
| 09:09.24 | Clord | way to get amount unit dealt damage is to use "damage amount" |
| 09:09.28 | Clord | then it returns damage dealt |
| 09:09.34 | `3ICE | no he needs it before it deals it |
| 09:09.39 | `3ICE | to micro his unit away |
| 09:09.39 | Clord | ouch |
| 09:09.46 | Clord | then he is screwed |
| 09:09.48 | Clord | lol |
| 09:10.03 | rrowland | Well at the very worst |
| 09:10.06 | rrowland | I can do it manually |
| 09:10.09 | rrowland | But I'd rather not |
| 09:10.19 | `3ICE | ouch storing every unit's dmg in an array is a pain |
| 09:10.25 | SixTwo | this is weird i have a trigger with event any player presses any key, condition to check (Key Pressed) == 1 (Key) works perfect, but as soon as I add a OR after key pressed it doesnt work anymore |
| 09:10.33 | rrowland | Not to mention bonus to different types |
| 09:10.35 | rrowland | And upgrades |
| 09:10.42 | SixTwo | can you only check for one thing in the condition of a trigger ? |
| 09:11.03 | `3ICE | i have had a trigger with over 30 conditions working fine in sc2 |
| 09:11.06 | Clord | lol you can check many things for once |
| 09:11.13 | `3ICE | checking unit types and numbers -.- |
| 09:11.30 | SixTwo | I dont men in the if then else statement |
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| 09:11.37 | `3ICE | yep, actual condition |
| 09:11.48 | SixTwo | cause as soon as I add a OR in the condition my trigger doesnt fire, wtf am i doing wrong |
| 09:11.57 | `3ICE | you are using GUI |
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| 09:12.01 | `3ICE | instead of galaxy script |
| 09:12.02 | Clord | personally I don't much use that condition thing in top |
| 09:12.05 | Clord | I just use if system |
| 09:12.13 | `3ICE | i use galaxy for great justice. |
| 09:12.16 | SixTwo | am not a code `3ICE :) |
| 09:12.23 | SixTwo | coder* |
| 09:12.35 | Clord | GUI alliance shall rule the world! |
| 09:12.35 | Clord | XD |
| 09:12.37 | `3ICE | i wasnt always a coder either |
| 09:12.50 | `3ICE | i still use gui to this day (on occasion) |
| 09:12.51 | SixTwo | yeah but if I use the if then else, then this trigger will fire off with any key pressed :/ |
| 09:13.09 | `3ICE | have multiple events then |
| 09:13.17 | `3ICE | one event for each key you want to allow |
| 09:13.28 | SixTwo | in the same trigger ? |
| 09:13.31 | `3ICE | sure |
| 09:13.33 | `3ICE | i dont see why not :) |
| 09:13.40 | SixTwo | learn something new every day |
| 09:13.44 | SixTwo | thanks man |
| 09:13.44 | `3ICE | i love event driven programming languages |
| 09:13.47 | `3ICE | np np :) |
| 09:14.06 | Clord | I bring dumbed down map this rate |
| 09:14.12 | Clord | instead people needing to use keyboard to move |
| 09:14.15 | Clord | I let them click |
| 09:14.17 | Clord | and to shoot enemy |
| 09:14.19 | Clord | they click it |
| 09:14.19 | Clord | XD |
| 09:14.30 | SixTwo | works like a charm you're awesome `3 |
| 09:14.34 | SixTwo | `3ICE even |
| 09:14.35 | `3ICE | what if i misclick a zergling? it will rush into it,... |
| 09:14.41 | Clord | yeah |
| 09:14.45 | Clord | that is that huge skill factor |
| 09:14.47 | Clord | you might miss click |
| 09:14.49 | Clord | lol |
| 09:14.49 | `3ICE | thats painful |
| 09:15.00 | `3ICE | i'd rather a-move |
| 09:15.10 | Clord | no such feature for map |
| 09:15.15 | Clord | you click to move or click to attack |
| 09:15.17 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:15.19 | `3ICE | i refuse to play it then |
| 09:15.22 | `3ICE | petition! |
| 09:15.52 | Clord | ironically keyboard controlled would be superior as it can attack continuously |
| 09:15.52 | `3ICE | was joking and will definitely play the map in question. |
| 09:15.57 | Clord | but those noobs are frustated |
| 09:16.08 | Clord | yeah I knew you used sarcasm |
| 09:16.08 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:16.29 | `3ICE | oh good i was worried as you didnt say :) lol haha :D or xD |
| 09:16.54 | Clord | XD |
| 09:17.06 | Clord | lol |
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| 09:17.52 | Kerotan | Does anyone know how I add a turret to a unit? |
| 09:18.31 | `3ICE | no clue :) try adding it to a weapon or other half-logical solution that blizzard might have done |
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| 09:18.44 | s4ikD | does anyone know a tut or have tips for me on how to set up a survival ai like f.e. in the wc3 map jurassic park ? |
| 09:18.51 | `3ICE | or copy the turrents in existence |
| 09:18.57 | `3ICE | -n |
| 09:19.06 | Kerotan | Cant copy when im doing it from scratch :S |
| 09:19.08 | Clord | s4kiD... you mean some simple run away AI? |
| 09:19.09 | Clord | XD |
| 09:19.26 | `3ICE | i think he needs a simple chase them down AI. |
| 09:19.30 | `3ICE | for his dino |
| 09:19.33 | s4ikD | well yah |
| 09:19.36 | s4ikD | sounds about right |
| 09:19.39 | Kerotan | Dont see any turret options on the weapons :( |
| 09:19.41 | `3ICE | hard to guess when he doesnt say it tho |
| 09:19.42 | Clord | unit comes to x range.... use polar opposite to order other unit to run opposite direction |
| 09:19.57 | s4ikD | i tried to explain it... |
| 09:20.07 | s4ikD | cause i didnt knew what exactly i needed :p |
| 09:20.12 | `3ICE | jurassic park has human controlled dinos |
| 09:20.16 | heysparky | Do the space platform LOS blockers block LOS with the simple visual effect or is it programmatic? And if programmatic, how come I can see through it... |
| 09:20.17 | `3ICE | no ai |
| 09:20.27 | s4ikD | not the one i played oO |
| 09:20.33 | `3ICE | heysparky you have very good eyes |
| 09:20.40 | Clord | Warcraft 3.... there is tons clone maps like that |
| 09:20.41 | heysparky | lol |
| 09:20.51 | `3ICE | i am so helpful today :D |
| 09:20.52 | Kerotan | Sigh, why did they make it difficult to add propertys to a unit.. |
| 09:21.06 | heysparky | It gets easier with time... |
| 09:21.28 | Clord | Galaxy Editor looks like it was coded top of Warcraft III's world editor |
| 09:21.28 | Clord | XD |
| 09:21.37 | Clord | but yeah... it just looks so simillar |
| 09:22.15 | s4ikD | thx clord, but sadly that didnt help me much |
| 09:22.20 | AgentPaper | hm, how do you tint units? |
| 09:22.25 | AgentPaper | like if I wanted to make a red pylon |
| 09:22.50 | `3ICE | yesterday we have come to the conclusion that we cannot tint units |
| 09:22.56 | AgentPaper | really? |
| 09:22.59 | Kerotan | WC3 editor was much simplar to do things :S |
| 09:23.04 | `3ICE | it is broken trigger-wise and not yet implemented data editor-wise |
| 09:23.21 | `3ICE | the only solution we know is editing the textures |
| 09:23.42 | `3ICE | of course i have not personally tested any of these, jsut parroting on what others said yesterday |
| 09:27.50 | Kerotan | Wow, finnaly manage it and now all the attack sounds have gone.. sigh |
| 09:27.52 | s4ikD | would nyone be so kind and lend me a little hand with my ai problem? |
| 09:28.01 | s4ikD | -little lol |
| 09:28.17 | `3ICE | explain what you need and we will certainly help you |
| 09:28.22 | `3ICE | (in more detail) |
| 09:28.39 | `3ICE | no, lets not |
| 09:28.46 | `3ICE | i refuse to respond to PM |
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| 09:30.16 | heysparky | no tinting! |
| 09:30.16 | heysparky | damn! |
| 09:31.01 | s4ikD | i see |
| 09:31.02 | s4ikD | ok |
| 09:31.20 | s4ikD | i want to autmatically spawn creeps in a certain area and they shall wander the map and hunt players |
| 09:32.13 | `3ICE | event: time (whatever timeing you want on the spawns) action: unit - create (how many) (what) for player (15, probably) facing 270 options none |
| 09:32.25 | s4ikD | not straight towards players though.. if they come near one they shall attack.. but if they're on the other end of the map, they just walk arround |
| 09:32.45 | `3ICE | action2: unit group - issue order (targeting point) (last created unit group) to attack-move random point |
| 09:32.57 | s4ikD | oh |
| 09:33.02 | `3ICE | the way you get this "random point" depends on what your map is about |
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| 09:33.28 | `3ICE | right, then you jsut get a new random point every 5sec |
| 09:33.37 | `3ICE | for every dino |
| 09:33.46 | heysparky | you can also have them wander to a random point in a region |
| 09:33.59 | `3ICE | and that region is = "entire map" |
| 09:34.19 | Bemoliph- | I would use Playable Area instead |
| 09:34.24 | `3ICE | good point |
| 09:34.32 | Bemoliph- | So they aren't trying to attack to the unpathable edges of the map |
| 09:34.32 | heysparky | oh, that's nice, I didn't know you could do that |
| 09:34.33 | s4ikD | i see |
| 09:34.38 | `3ICE | i forgot not many people get rid of camera bounds :) |
| 09:34.41 | heysparky | what about clifftops? |
| 09:34.42 | Bemoliph- | Or if you have the playable area smaller than normal |
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| 09:34.55 | rrowland | Behold: |
| 09:34.55 | `3ICE | dinos are supposed to be able to walk over cliffs |
| 09:34.56 | rrowland | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:42.02 | ekcolnovkol | MOUTAIN DEW RECHARGES MY BLOOD |
| 09:42.14 | ekcolnovkol | FOR AUIR |
| 09:42.15 | `3ICE | and decharges your brain |
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| 09:43.33 | ekcolnovkol | i would really love someone to work with me on this map q_q |
| 09:43.46 | s4ikD | hm weird.. in the issue order action under ability command is no attack command.. hold fire/hold position/stop etc but no attack |
| 09:43.50 | `3ICE | whats the rate of pay you are offering? |
| 09:44.05 | `3ICE | dude stop takes no POINT, attack does |
| 09:44.14 | `3ICE | you need issue order that targets a point |
| 09:44.41 | `3ICE | same action, but change the first parameter |
| 09:45.10 | s4ikD | i failed |
| 09:45.13 | s4ikD | thx |
| 09:45.19 | `3ICE | np np :) |
| 09:49.50 | ekcolnovkol | set gratitude == inf_dollars; |
| 09:50.19 | `3ICE | that fails to compile |
| 09:50.33 | ekcolnovkol | yeah "set" isn't recognized that way |
| 09:50.40 | `3ICE | also that returns a boolean |
| 09:50.45 | `3ICE | == is a comparison operator |
| 09:50.53 | ekcolnovkol | it should be |
| 09:50.54 | ekcolnovkol | if |
| 09:52.28 | ekcolnovkol | i'm a l33t coder :( |
| 09:52.51 | `3ICE | yeah if it takes less than 1337 tries to get something working you are 1337 :) |
| 09:53.00 | ekcolnovkol | woot |
| 09:53.19 | Grum | omg! that last match of the HDH finals was epic =D |
| 09:53.21 | s4ikD | can i preset somewhere that everythings visible for everyone at all time? |
| 09:53.22 | ekcolnovkol | hdh? |
| 09:53.29 | ekcolnovkol | fog of war |
| 09:53.39 | s4ikD | not rly.. tried that |
| 09:53.44 | `3ICE | ya rly, it works |
| 09:53.48 | s4ikD | i can see the whole terrain |
| 09:53.55 | `3ICE | in a trigger |
| 09:53.56 | s4ikD | but i cannot see everything permanently |
| 09:54.02 | `3ICE | create a revealer |
| 09:54.11 | Beider | Did custom mod publishing work on b.net when the map publisher was up? |
| 09:54.11 | `3ICE | accross whole map for palyer lv_i |
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| 09:54.49 | s4ikD | thx |
| 09:54.50 | s4ikD | worked |
| 09:54.56 | `3ICE | 3ICE solves :) |
| 09:55.39 | s4ikD | learns |
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| 09:56.46 | `3ICE | accidentally hi alched my weapon instead of the loot i picked up ouch gotta go bank prematurely |
| 09:57.04 | s4ikD | hmm.. how can i prevent that after they reached the "random point" they stop moving? |
| 09:57.20 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zerg-assault/. Zerg Assault. Rispetto (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 09:57.21 | `3ICE | new point every 5sec |
| 09:57.48 | `3ICE | you create dinos in one trigger, order them around in an other trigger |
| 09:58.04 | `3ICE | 2other trigger" runs much more frequently than the "create trigger" |
| 09:58.08 | `3ICE | "other trigger" runs much more frequently than the "create trigger"* |
| 09:59.11 | s4ikD | hm |
| 09:59.19 | s4ikD | makes sense yah |
| 09:59.38 | s4ikD | but how do i seperatly select them in the trigger? |
| 09:59.42 | ekcolnovkol | you know |
| 09:59.44 | ekcolnovkol | you are absolutely right |
| 09:59.48 | `3ICE | store them in a variable |
| 09:59.51 | ekcolnovkol | two editors are awesome |
| 09:59.54 | `3ICE | yep :) |
| 09:59.58 | `3ICE | i am always right :) |
| 10:00.02 | s4ikD | lol |
| 10:00.09 | s4ikD | dont get ahead of urself :p |
| 10:00.10 | `3ICE | Disclaimer: Except when not. |
| 10:00.19 | s4ikD | :) |
| 10:00.28 | Sixen | :P |
| 10:01.58 | s4ikD | ok i have no idea how to work with variables.. im not that much of a programmer |
| 10:02.16 | `3ICE | watch a tutorial on "introduction to the galaxy editor" |
| 10:02.19 | `3ICE | youtube is your friend |
| 10:03.43 | s4ikD | well |
| 10:05.03 | s4ikD | i've seen the stuff that showed up on that search criteria.. none of them went significantly into triggers as far as i can remember |
| 10:05.26 | `3ICE | watch a tutorial on "introduction to galaxy editor triggers" |
| 10:05.54 | s4ikD | no such tutorial |
| 10:06.08 | s4ikD | there's* |
| 10:06.25 | `3ICE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L3kLEIZins |
| 10:06.37 | s4ikD | wtf |
| 10:06.45 | `3ICE | i gogled what i said |
| 10:06.47 | `3ICE | first result |
| 10:06.50 | `3ICE | sorry :P |
| 10:07.05 | s4ikD | i did it directly on yt... |
| 10:07.08 | s4ikD | no results |
| 10:07.10 | s4ikD | thx nyway |
| 10:07.20 | `3ICE | you probably forgot to remove the quotes |
| 10:07.29 | heysparky | I think that called for just 'thanks' :) No 'anyway' :P |
| 10:07.30 | s4ikD | lol |
| 10:07.44 | `3ICE | "quotes like these do an exact phrase search" |
| 10:07.57 | s4ikD | im not that dumb m8... |
| 10:08.06 | `3ICE | then how come you got no result? |
| 10:08.06 | s4ikD | just unexperienced with the Galaxy editor :p |
| 10:08.13 | s4ikD | no idea |
| 10:08.20 | `3ICE | yeah strange indeed |
| 10:08.34 | `3ICE | if you take off the last quote and leave the first one it still does an exact phrase search |
| 10:08.44 | s4ikD | i know |
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| 10:11.27 | casperb | Does anyone actually use the built in cinematics? seem like it's really.. useless compared to a trigger |
| 10:11.58 | heysparky | I tried... you're correctr |
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| 10:12.05 | heysparky | seems only partially implemented |
| 10:12.08 | casperb | Able to move the camera.. and.. that's pretty much it |
| 10:12.16 | `3ICE | the default reaction of palyers seeing a cinematic is I ARE SPAM ESC WTF WHY IT NO GOO AWAYYYYY so I don't do cinematics... |
| 10:12.44 | *** part/#sc2mapster heysparky (~heysparky@216.40.136.42) |
| 10:13.32 | casperb | hehe true |
| 10:13.42 | s4ikD | ok that didnt help at all xD |
| 10:13.52 | `3ICE | try a related video |
| 10:13.57 | s4ikD | on it |
| 10:14.32 | `3ICE | I have 15 channels bookmarked that do galaxy edito tutorials |
| 10:16.35 | s4ikD | i cant find any that go into variables |
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| 10:17.04 | `3ICE | "introduction to editor variables" (without galaxy) |
| 10:17.13 | `3ICE | because world editor variables are similar |
| 10:17.17 | ekcolnovkol | how do i set teams :U |
| 10:17.25 | `3ICE | dont, it breaks publishing |
| 10:17.29 | Beider | hmm weird editor bug |
| 10:17.30 | ekcolnovkol | wat |
| 10:17.32 | `3ICE | do it ingame |
| 10:17.39 | `3ICE | with triggers |
| 10:17.44 | `3ICE | like a voting system |
| 10:17.57 | ekcolnovkol | how do i ally teams to computers then o_O |
| 10:18.01 | Beider | If you create a record with an array in it and copy+paste a line where you use said record. The variable you use to reference the array within the record disapears. |
| 10:18.05 | Gohla | huh, i set the teams in the game variants and i could just publish the map? |
| 10:18.07 | `3ICE | search "alliance" |
| 10:18.20 | `3ICE | Beider nice find |
| 10:18.25 | `3ICE | let blizzard know |
| 10:18.28 | Beider | already done |
| 10:18.33 | `3ICE | thanks |
| 10:19.00 | Beider | I doubt it will be a high priority bug, it's just slightly annoying |
| 10:19.28 | `3ICE | game variants and related stuff is currently broken, lots of complaints were coming in yesterday |
| 10:19.41 | Beider | oh |
| 10:19.52 | Gohla | odd, because it worked for my map so far |
| 10:20.01 | `3ICE | it worked then it broke |
| 10:20.20 | Gohla | so it broke today? :p |
| 10:20.39 | `3ICE | i wish i knew what exactly is broken about it :) |
| 10:20.45 | Beider | 3ice you are x3ICEx on youtube I presume? |
| 10:20.48 | `3ICE | but there was a lot of qq |
| 10:20.53 | `3ICE | yeah x3ICEx |
| 10:21.13 | `3ICE | no it started yesterday |
| 10:21.16 | Beider | will have to check your subscriptions to see who else does them then, I only know of bifuu really |
| 10:21.20 | rrowland | haha You said you used x3icex because IRC doesn't let you start your name with a number |
| 10:21.23 | rrowland | Oh man busted imo |
| 10:21.34 | `3ICE | yeah my real username is 3ICE |
| 10:21.56 | `3ICE | i got that acc disabled on youtube for deleting it |
| 10:21.58 | `3ICE | cant recreate |
| 10:22.50 | `3ICE | who would have thought... if you delete your yt account that name is not re-registerable, not even by the same person that deleted it |
| 10:23.34 | s4ikD | i know what variables are and how they work.. i need to know how to set em up and use them in the galaxy editor.. general variable tuts arent gonna get me that far.... thx nyway, im gonna try it somewhere else |
| 10:23.37 | rrowland | Pshhh okay if you say so |
| 10:23.49 | Beider | s4ikD, sec |
| 10:23.54 | `3ICE | s4ikD right click --> new variable |
| 10:23.57 | rrowland | You have any idea how to speed up/down the game speed as it's done in that bullet time video btw? |
| 10:23.58 | `3ICE | that's gonna be a global |
| 10:24.08 | `3ICE | and local vars are created in the trigger's local variables section |
| 10:24.13 | rrowland | The asshat that put up the video didn't give the function name |
| 10:24.32 | Beider | s4ikD: did you try my basic triggers tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0KFo_S3C-8 |
| 10:24.40 | Beider | it covers the very basics of setting up triggers |
| 10:24.41 | `3ICE | shoudl be easily done through ctrl+f11 |
| 10:24.53 | rrowland | ? |
| 10:24.53 | s4ikD | i'll take a look at it, ty |
| 10:25.14 | rrowland | Talking to me? |
| 10:25.20 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 10:25.23 | `3ICE | im working on it, 1sec |
| 10:25.28 | rrowland | It's a function that's not in the editor |
| 10:25.32 | rrowland | I don't mean the 1-5 gamespeed |
| 10:25.35 | `3ICE | it probably is :D |
| 10:25.37 | rrowland | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-brainstorming/2398-full-gamespeed-control-usefull-for-bullettime-stuff/#p7 |
| 10:26.08 | ekcolnovkol | OHY MG GOD IT'S BEAUTIFUL |
| 10:26.11 | ekcolnovkol | AS;DFJ |
| 10:27.09 | Beider | I honestly don't see why he is not sharing the function though |
| 10:27.17 | Bemoliph- | Because that's how Malu is |
| 10:27.18 | rrowland | Cause he's an asshat |
| 10:27.23 | Beider | people will find it eventually, at least if he shares it he will get credit for finding it |
| 10:27.31 | Beider | as it is now all he will get is flame for being an arse |
| 10:27.36 | rrowland | Posted a "look at me" post |
| 10:27.37 | `3ICE | oh come on it only takes a few minutes to extract an undocumented function... |
| 10:27.41 | `3ICE | im already working on it |
| 10:27.44 | rrowland | Then /afk |
| 10:28.12 | Phatency | And why is that under "project brainstorming" |
| 10:28.21 | `3ICE | My approach is finding GameSetSpeedValue then checking the next and previous natives in the list |
| 10:29.47 | `3ICE | wow, 0 results |
| 10:30.00 | `3ICE | That means my extracted game files are outdated ;( |
| 10:30.08 | ekcolnovkol | I AM NOW A TRIGGER MASTER |
| 10:30.10 | ekcolnovkol | levels up |
| 10:30.14 | Beider | goes back to converting his sidebar to a mod library |
| 10:30.26 | Beider | I do wonder how publishing / using mods is going to work on b.net |
| 10:32.07 | rrowland | Where in the MPQs are the functions? |
| 10:32.13 | rrowland | All I seem to find are prototype |
| 10:32.17 | rrowland | prototypes* |
| 10:32.24 | `3ICE | for natives we dont get mroe than that |
| 10:32.25 | rrowland | And not that many |
| 10:32.33 | `3ICE | i got a 200 kb file |
| 10:32.36 | rrowland | Where are all the libnatives? |
| 10:32.44 | `3ICE | in latest patch's mpq |
| 10:32.46 | `3ICE | h/o |
| 10:32.58 | `3ICE | d:\Program Files\StarCraft2Beta\Versions\Base15449\patch.SC2Archive\Mods\Core.SC2Mod\Base.SC2Data\TriggerLibs\NativeLib.galaxy |
| 10:32.58 | `3ICE | d:\Program Files\StarCraft2Beta\Versions\Base15449\patch.SC2Archive\Mods\Core.SC2Mod\Base.SC2Data\TriggerLibs\natives.galaxy |
| 10:32.59 | `3ICE | there |
| 10:33.19 | `3ICE | i hate these compley paths -.- |
| 10:33.22 | `3ICE | complex* |
| 10:33.25 | rrowland | Coolness |
| 10:33.30 | `3ICE | i wish it was all in one mpq |
| 10:34.14 | rrowland | Most of these are just full of constants lol |
| 10:34.26 | `3ICE | yeah, very useful |
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| 10:34.45 | rrowland | I guess, if you need constants |
| 10:36.36 | `3ICE | My approach has failed, I didn't find it. |
| 10:37.22 | rrowland | It's probably a function in NativeLib |
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| 10:37.45 | rrowland | You check nativelib too? |
| 10:37.52 | `3ICE | yup |
| 10:38.03 | `3ICE | even that ugly 4mb xml file |
| 10:41.06 | rrowland | So we can agree that this poster is an asshat |
| 10:41.21 | `3ICE | nah im on his side |
| 10:41.28 | `3ICE | making them work for it is so much fun |
| 10:41.41 | rrowland | Yeah I can see that's your motto |
| 10:41.42 | `3ICE | in fact i am still looking |
| 10:41.53 | rrowland | By the way you sit in here and answer every stupid question that's asked lol |
| 10:42.16 | `3ICE | thats just an act while i prepare for world dominance! |
| 10:42.26 | `3ICE | :) |
| 10:42.34 | rrowland | Guys I can't find the galaxy editor on my computer please help |
| 10:42.38 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/data-type/ by onisagi |
| 10:42.55 | `3ICE | rrowland have you tried executing d:\Program Files\StarCraft2Beta\StarCraft II Editor.exe? |
| 10:43.16 | rrowland | I tried to but it said my D drive doesnt exist |
| 10:43.19 | rrowland | Do I have a virus? |
| 10:43.30 | `3ICE | try it on C (C:\Program Files\StarCraft2Beta\StarCraft II Editor.exe?) |
| 10:43.55 | rrowland | it says it cant find "C:\Program Files\StarCraft2Beta\StarCraft II Editor.exe?" |
| 10:44.00 | rrowland | It must not have been downloaded |
| 10:44.02 | rrowland | Where do I download it |
| 10:44.19 | `3ICE | you dont need to, it is already on your computer if you have patch 13 |
| 10:44.32 | rrowland | No you're wrong I looked |
| 10:44.41 | `3ICE | look harder |
| 10:44.48 | rrowland | I did it's not there |
| 10:44.53 | rrowland | Blizzard is stupid |
| 10:44.58 | `3ICE | dude... |
| 10:44.58 | `3ICE | native fixed GameGetSpeed (); |
| 10:44.58 | rrowland | ./wrists |
| 10:44.59 | `3ICE | native void GameSetSpeedValue (int speed); |
| 10:45.00 | `3ICE | so easy |
| 10:45.05 | `3ICE | it was so fucking easy |
| 10:45.11 | `3ICE | whoops nvm |
| 10:45.14 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:45.16 | `3ICE | its get not set :( |
| 10:45.17 | rrowland | That takes 1-5 |
| 10:45.33 | `3ICE | no i meant the one above it that was a fixed which is like real |
| 10:45.38 | `3ICE | but thats a get not a set :(( |
| 10:45.47 | rrowland | Fixed IS a real lol |
| 10:45.49 | rrowland | Not like a real :P |
| 10:45.58 | rrowland | Plus it takes no parameters |
| 10:46.04 | rrowland | So obviously it wouldn't set a speed |
| 10:46.05 | `3ICE | yeah :sadface: |
| 10:46.24 | s4ikD | ok i give up.. the tut helped a little but i still have no idea how im gonna solve my problem |
| 10:46.43 | `3ICE | you could have someone else solve it for you |
| 10:47.23 | s4ikD | i probably could yes.. show me someone who'd do that |
| 10:47.32 | `3ICE | <-- |
| 10:47.41 | s4ikD | and you want money for it? :p |
| 10:47.52 | `3ICE | lol? sure why not |
| 10:48.03 | `3ICE | i would have done it for free, but since you offered |
| 10:48.10 | s4ikD | i didnt offer it |
| 10:48.13 | s4ikD | i asked |
| 10:48.14 | `3ICE | aww :( |
| 10:48.25 | s4ikD | ;) |
| 10:48.46 | `3ICE | yo rrowland i think that asshat is just changing the animation speed of actors |
| 10:48.58 | `3ICE | probably has nothing to do with game speed |
| 10:49.13 | `3ICE | if that's true, then: "what a troll..." |
| 10:49.15 | ekcolnovkol | hey ice |
| 10:49.17 | `3ICE | hi |
| 10:49.19 | ekcolnovkol | nvm |
| 10:49.20 | rrowland | Yeah really |
| 10:49.21 | ekcolnovkol | got it |
| 10:49.23 | ekcolnovkol | magic |
| 10:49.27 | `3ICE | yay 3ICE does magic |
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| 10:49.38 | vjeux | hey |
| 10:49.44 | rrowland | I'm just going to make a trigger that sets the time scale of all created units |
| 10:49.48 | `3ICE | solved the problem without even reading it |
| 10:50.21 | rrowland | Hello jveux |
| 10:50.25 | rrowland | and also vjeux |
| 10:50.35 | vjeux | yes |
| 10:50.50 | `3ICE | There is no jveux in the channel atm :) |
| 10:50.58 | ekcolnovkol | something keeps dying when my map starts up and i have NO IDEA what it is |
| 10:51.12 | `3ICE | probably your soul |
| 10:51.20 | ekcolnovkol | nope |
| 10:51.29 | `3ICE | maybe it is a hidden blizz "patch" |
| 10:51.38 | `3ICE | to solve their omg unit count starts at -1 |
| 10:51.42 | `3ICE | problem |
| 10:52.41 | ekcolnovkol | l.0 |
| 10:52.43 | ekcolnovkol | o.0 |
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| 10:53.09 | ekcolnovkol | maybe the hostile units are killing each other |
| 10:53.18 | `3ICE | they dont do that |
| 10:53.25 | `3ICE | unless you have given them to different players |
| 10:53.25 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:53.25 | rrowland | So |
| 10:53.31 | rrowland | The method I just implemented |
| 10:53.34 | rrowland | In like 2 minutes |
| 10:53.36 | rrowland | Works |
| 10:53.39 | `3ICE | yay! |
| 10:53.45 | `3ICE | we have shown him! |
| 10:53.51 | rrowland | Sort of |
| 10:53.56 | `3ICE | and who came up with the solution... :D (me) |
| 10:53.56 | rrowland | It builds units so fast |
| 10:54.01 | rrowland | Actually I did |
| 10:54.01 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:54.06 | `3ICE | wut!? |
| 10:54.15 | `3ICE | [12:48:47] <`3ICE> yo rrowland i think that asshat is just changing the animation speed of actors |
| 10:54.15 | `3ICE | [12:48:59] <`3ICE> probably has nothing to do with game speed |
| 10:54.15 | `3ICE | [12:49:13] <`3ICE> if that's true, then: "what a troll..." |
| 10:54.15 | `3ICE | [ |
| 10:54.19 | rrowland | <rrowland> I'm just going to make a trigger that sets the time scale of all created units |
| 10:54.22 | `3ICE | that is proof right there |
| 10:54.37 | `3ICE | [12:49:45] <rrowland> I'm just going to make a trigger that sets the time scale of all created units |
| 10:54.37 | rrowland | I made a buff that sets time scale to 10 |
| 10:54.40 | `3ICE | yours came after mine-.- |
| 10:54.47 | `3ICE | by like 1 minute |
| 10:54.48 | rrowland | Yours is completely different |
| 10:55.00 | rrowland | You probably didn't even know timescale existed |
| 10:55.02 | `3ICE | time scale or animation speed-.- |
| 10:55.05 | `3ICE | exactly |
| 10:55.06 | `3ICE | i didnt |
| 10:55.16 | `3ICE | but the idea is what counts |
| 10:55.22 | `3ICE | anyway, take all the credit you want :) |
| 10:55.28 | rrowland | lols. |
| 10:55.30 | `3ICE | maybe make a post in his thread |
| 10:55.42 | rrowland | Well the problem is when you build stuff |
| 10:55.47 | s4ikD | 3ICE - every 5 secs a type of unit that is NOT moving/attacking shall get a new move/attack order .. if you have time, could you explain to me how i achieve this? |
| 10:55.49 | rrowland | It still gains HP at the same rate |
| 10:55.54 | rrowland | So it only has 1/10 hp lol |
| 10:56.00 | rrowland | When it finishes |
| 10:56.10 | `3ICE | apply the buff only after it finishes |
| 10:56.21 | rrowland | Then it takes normal speed to build |
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| 10:56.40 | `3ICE | well his proof video only shows an attacking spaceship |
| 10:56.43 | `3ICE | no buildings there |
| 10:56.44 | rrowland | I'm just testing stuff that happens ~10 minutes into my AI so |
| 10:57.07 | `3ICE | oh that is going to take you 10 minutes each time :) |
| 10:57.19 | rrowland | Down to 1 |
| 10:57.28 | `3ICE | but with 1/10 hp units? |
| 10:57.43 | rrowland | Well I'll fix that somehow |
| 10:57.53 | rrowland | Hmm something's wrong though |
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| 10:58.08 | rrowland | A unit that's supposed to move in circles is attacking instead |
| 10:58.11 | rrowland | Because of it |
| 10:58.49 | `3ICE | we are better off not touching game speed |
| 10:58.53 | rrowland | ahhh I know why |
| 10:59.04 | rrowland | It's for debugging only |
| 10:59.07 | `3ICE | hey have you tried GameSetSpeedValue(5);? |
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| 10:59.15 | rrowland | That's just fastest |
| 10:59.20 | `3ICE | because the constants stop at 4 |
| 10:59.27 | rrowland | ah |
| 10:59.31 | `3ICE | going over that might do something unexpected :) |
| 10:59.31 | rrowland | No I haven't |
| 11:02.41 | s4ikD | seen my request, 3ICE? just to make sure, take your time |
| 11:02.48 | `3ICE | whoops, nope |
| 11:02.50 | `3ICE | let me scroll up |
| 11:02.59 | `3ICE | event - a unit becomes idle |
| 11:03.02 | `3ICE | use that |
| 11:03.16 | `3ICE | condition shall be owner of unit being player 15 |
| 11:04.22 | s4ikD | why did i not fkn see this event >.< i srsly need some coffee |
| 11:04.29 | s4ikD | thx a ton though |
| 11:04.32 | `3ICE | not coffee, jsut experience |
| 11:04.37 | s4ikD | well that too |
| 11:04.42 | s4ikD | most of all... |
| 11:05.06 | `3ICE | i have been mapping for years, that's why i know stuff |
| 11:05.20 | `3ICE | my first map used crazy stupid solutions for the easiest problems :) |
| 11:05.34 | SixTwo | i feel like im at that point now :D |
| 11:05.39 | `3ICE | like i'd set player resources one by one instead of in a loop |
| 11:05.51 | SixTwo | my map does simple stuff yet i have like 50+ variables and triggers |
| 11:06.08 | `3ICE | my TD has three variables and 6 triggers yet it is fully working :P |
| 11:06.29 | `3ICE | dont need more than an init and a leak trigger |
| 11:06.55 | `3ICE | i can just spawn inside the init trigger by waiting for food count to be 0 |
| 11:06.56 | SixTwo | my init calls like 7 triggers :o |
| 11:07.10 | `3ICE | highly organized vs highly optimized |
| 11:07.18 | `3ICE | i'd go with organized any day |
| 11:07.30 | `3ICE | thats why i also have 6 triggers instead of jsut the 2 i'd need :) |
| 11:08.02 | SixTwo | just a question maybe you'll know it, does my map having that many triggers variables etc make it a bad map ? as in big filesize, slow to load etc etc, ive never made a map before |
| 11:08.08 | `3ICE | hopefully someone will have the free time to make us an optimizer |
| 11:08.47 | `3ICE | theoritically every unit you create increases sc2's memory usage |
| 11:09.03 | `3ICE | but if we look at it with the eyes of an average joe: "who cares 'bout memory usage" |
| 11:09.16 | `3ICE | feel free to make as many triggers as you need, the end users will feel nothing |
| 11:09.25 | MavercK | god dammit |
| 11:09.27 | `3ICE | optimize "every 0.00 seconds" triggers though |
| 11:09.29 | MavercK | old version still in top 10 |
| 11:09.32 | SixTwo | ^^ aighty |
| 11:09.35 | MavercK | my new version dropped off the list completly |
| 11:09.43 | MavercK | did anyone end up making that bot? |
| 11:09.53 | `3ICE | doubtful |
| 11:11.17 | MavercK | rage :< |
| 11:12.04 | `3ICE | Putting "Look for the new version assholes!" in loading screen might help slightly. |
| 11:12.18 | `3ICE | might have helped* |
| 11:13.23 | MavercK | it's in there now. but that doesn't stop them anyway |
| 11:13.32 | `3ICE | yeah, cause there is no search |
| 11:13.41 | MavercK | hes uploaded a version of the map i made before map publishing was even available |
| 11:14.14 | `3ICE | i am safe from that :) not relesing anything until the game is out |
| 11:15.41 | MavercK | it's kind of insane |
| 11:15.46 | s4ikD | hm.. i've seen a werid unit today in (i think?) hell td which looked like some mutated marine or something anyone have an idea what that could've been? the changeling marine looks the same until death so that cant be it? |
| 11:15.54 | MavercK | i hosted the old version map |
| 11:16.00 | MavercK | and left and went to work for 12 hours |
| 11:16.03 | SixTwo | infested terran ? |
| 11:16.06 | MavercK | come back and it's still 100+ games an hour |
| 11:16.16 | s4ikD | there we go |
| 11:16.19 | `3ICE | MavercK they fixed that |
| 11:16.20 | s4ikD | thx sixtwo |
| 11:16.25 | MavercK | hm? |
| 11:16.27 | MavercK | they did? |
| 11:16.38 | `3ICE | so i have heard |
| 11:16.46 | `3ICE | cant confirm personally tho :) |
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| 11:18.48 | `3ICE | rrowlanddid GameSetSpeedValue(5); work? |
| 11:18.51 | casperb | There's no time elapsed for a specific timer event? :O |
| 11:19.04 | vjeux | anyone with a computer able to fraps and willing to spend 10 minutes to help me? |
| 11:19.25 | `3ICE | my computer can fraps war3 jsut fine, but can't even open sc2 :D |
| 11:19.37 | vjeux | lol :( |
| 11:20.07 | casperb | a device from the stone age? ;) |
| 11:20.18 | `3ICE | 5 or 6 years old |
| 11:20.59 | vjeux | I want to show off the dota map which is starting to get playable ( http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/survival/ ) |
| 11:21.15 | vjeux | you'll get a cookie :p |
| 11:21.34 | SixTwo | i can help fraps vjeux in like maybe 30 mins ? watching f1 quali |
| 11:21.43 | vjeux | sure |
| 11:21.50 | vjeux | oh yeah have to turn on the tv! :P |
| 11:22.16 | SixTwo | alonso fighting ! (see what i did there) |
| 11:22.51 | vjeux | basically I'd like a little video with the hero selection, item buying and some spells cast on the enemy waves |
| 11:22.57 | vjeux | to show it looks like dota :) |
| 11:30.39 | Beider | I can fraps sc2 without a problem in 720p |
| 11:30.41 | Beider | if you want |
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| 11:32.27 | Beider | still need a hand vjeux? |
| 11:33.00 | `3ICE | wouldnt hurt of two ppl frapsed it |
| 11:33.05 | `3ICE | more coverage that way |
| 11:33.32 | vjeux | Beider: yeah would be really nice |
| 11:33.55 | vjeux | (hmm my highligtning doesn't work when you said vjeux? ... vjeux only works though :p |
| 11:34.20 | s4ikD | the sight radius is responsible for the range on which a creep attacks, right? |
| 11:34.28 | `3ICE | you should also add highlight for jveux :) ppl mistype it |
| 11:34.33 | vjeux | :p |
| 11:35.44 | s4ikD | yes, no? anyone? |
| 11:35.57 | `3ICE | prolly not |
| 11:36.04 | `3ICE | sight radius is how far the creep sees |
| 11:36.15 | s4ikD | yah |
| 11:36.20 | SixTwo | i dont think so, zealots in example can see a unit far away but attack only when a unit is close by |
| 11:36.25 | `3ICE | you need search radius or something like that |
| 11:36.43 | `3ICE | i dont have the editor open so cant check whats it called exactly |
| 11:36.45 | s4ikD | yah i meant that.. said it wrong |
| 11:37.05 | s4ikD | i dont mean the attack range of a rifle f.e. thats the weapons part i know |
| 11:37.13 | s4ikD | kk ty |
| 11:37.40 | `3ICE | there might even be an acquire range |
| 11:37.49 | `3ICE | if i had the editor open... but i dont |
| 11:38.01 | s4ikD | not in the unit tab but im gonna try movement-radius |
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| 11:38.21 | `3ICE | no thats a collision size-like feature |
| 11:38.34 | `3ICE | so it doesnt move into other units |
| 11:38.48 | depthsofchaos | hmm is the map list bugged in eu? i cant bump my map :p maps with 0 games on the list |
| 11:38.59 | s4ikD | k |
| 11:41.32 | LuxusElg | 2 easy questions: can you nest Effect Sets? and how do you make text tags fade out? |
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| 11:42.02 | `3ICE | if your question was easy, you'd be able to answer them yourself :) |
| 11:42.11 | LuxusElg | well, ok, the first one was easy :p |
| 11:42.21 | LuxusElg | i'm going to test it now anyways, so ignore that |
| 11:42.24 | `3ICE | actually i prefer the second one |
| 11:42.33 | LuxusElg | right, me too |
| 11:42.47 | `3ICE | do we have a texttag - set opacity/transparency? |
| 11:42.53 | `3ICE | because we definitely should |
| 11:43.03 | LuxusElg | i've been messing around with text tags for a little bit, and i know how to set what transparency they fade to, but not how to actually make them fade |
| 11:43.18 | `3ICE | oh, use a timer/periodic trigger/loop |
| 11:43.29 | `3ICE | and set transparency to transparency-1 |
| 11:43.36 | LuxusElg | thats the problem though |
| 11:43.54 | LuxusElg | the transparency setting is what they fade to, not their current transparency |
| 11:44.05 | `3ICE | oh wow |
| 11:44.10 | `3ICE | this actually made me open my editor |
| 11:44.15 | LuxusElg | xD |
| 11:44.37 | LuxusElg | i'm probably just missing a setting somewhere, but i've no idea where |
| 11:44.58 | `3ICE | Don't worry, 3ICE solves! :) |
| 11:45.03 | LuxusElg | oh |
| 11:45.05 | LuxusElg | there it is |
| 11:45.08 | LuxusElg | :P |
| 11:45.34 | LuxusElg | Set Time of Text Tag, change duration to Fade duration |
| 11:45.41 | LuxusElg | or Fade Out |
| 11:46.07 | `3ICE | fade it out completely then change its transparency? |
| 11:46.14 | `3ICE | btw text tags should automatically fade out |
| 11:46.18 | LuxusElg | indeed |
| 11:46.26 | LuxusElg | but apparently thats what the fade out duration does |
| 11:46.43 | LuxusElg | now, another question, will it still be there after it has faded out? |
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| 11:46.54 | LuxusElg | or will it be destroyed, as with the regular duration? |
| 11:47.10 | LuxusElg | and if not, how do i find out? |
| 11:48.41 | LuxusElg | i'm just going to assume it goes away |
| 11:48.41 | `3ICE | const int c_textTagTimeFadeOut = 1; |
| 11:48.56 | `3ICE | const int c_textTagTimeFadeDuration = 2; // If zero, will fade over full duration |
| 11:49.08 | `3ICE | these two are useful :) |
| 11:49.12 | LuxusElg | aha |
| 11:49.20 | `3ICE | wait are you using gui? |
| 11:49.22 | `3ICE | i think you are-.- |
| 11:49.28 | `3ICE | okay, gotta find the gui equivalent then |
| 11:49.59 | LuxusElg | i am |
| 11:50.03 | LuxusElg | and i found it |
| 11:50.05 | `3ICE | yay |
| 11:50.09 | LuxusElg | :D |
| 11:50.15 | `3ICE | less work for me :) |
| 11:50.19 | LuxusElg | ^^ |
| 11:50.22 | LuxusElg | thanks though :) |
| 11:50.24 | `3ICE | closes the editor and goes to eat lunch. |
| 11:50.58 | s4ikD | ok i found it |
| 11:51.09 | s4ikD | its the minimum scan range on the weapon |
| 11:51.34 | `3ICE | I have known it :) instead of search they named it scan though |
| 11:51.57 | `3ICE | i knew it* grammar |
| 11:52.09 | Skizot | morning |
| 11:53.22 | rrowland | hello |
| 11:53.42 | rrowland | God... the AI is so inconsistent with assigning workers to gas |
| 11:54.06 | SixTwo | working on the ai for the competition rrowland ? |
| 11:54.11 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 11:54.22 | rrowland | 90% of the time it puts 4 workers on gas |
| 11:54.26 | `3ICE | native void AISetGasPeonCountOverride (int player, int town, int desiredGasCount); |
| 11:54.28 | `3ICE | to 3 |
| 11:54.33 | rrowland | 60% of the time it'll only put 1 worker on my second gas |
| 11:54.44 | rrowland | 30% of the time it'll only put 2 workers on my second gas |
| 11:54.51 | SixTwo | nice, looking forward to trying out somme of the ai's submitted |
| 11:54.53 | rrowland | 10% of the time I actually get all 3 on second gas |
| 11:55.55 | rrowland | I don't know if AI has a function for warpgates or not but I haven't seen one |
| 11:56.03 | rrowland | Dreading figuring it out when I get to that point |
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| 12:03.57 | Skizot | So, who all tried my map? |
| 12:05.04 | Hati | me not |
| 12:05.39 | Skizot | :O |
| 12:05.45 | Skizot | why not? |
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| 12:07.58 | LuxusElg | which map ? |
| 12:09.42 | Skizot | Teran Conflict |
| 12:09.54 | LuxusElg | is it on EU or US ? |
| 12:09.57 | rrowland | Is it up on bnet? |
| 12:10.08 | Skizot | US |
| 12:10.12 | Skizot | and yes |
| 12:10.18 | rrowland | I'll check it out in a few minutes |
| 12:10.31 | Sixen | Skizot, you published it? |
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| 12:10.39 | Skizot | levels 1 and 2 |
| 12:10.42 | Skizot | yeah |
| 12:10.49 | Sixen | nie |
| 12:10.51 | Sixen | nice |
| 12:11.01 | Skizot | most comments so far are "fuck you it's hard" |
| 12:11.04 | Skizot | so be prepared |
| 12:11.32 | Sixen | :X |
| 12:11.33 | Skizot | and just for you guys |
| 12:11.37 | rrowland | lolwut |
| 12:11.41 | rrowland | The video I saw looked easy |
| 12:11.41 | rrowland | ;P |
| 12:11.43 | Skizot | type this in a t the main menu |
| 12:11.45 | WaterKnight | wonder whether it will split in mapping and publishing when its more advanced and maps cost |
| 12:11.53 | Skizot | "Up+Turbo+Steal" |
| 12:12.15 | rrowland | Big head mode? |
| 12:12.23 | Skizot | :D |
| 12:12.29 | rrowland | lol |
| 12:12.41 | Skizot | or rather.. 8D |
| 12:13.18 | Arthas-zzz | ( +Skizot ): most comments so far are "fuck you it's hard" |
| 12:13.20 | Arthas-zzz | keep it that way |
| 12:13.23 | Arthas-zzz | :) |
| 12:13.24 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 12:13.42 | rrowland | Most of the shit on bnet is brainless entertainment for the masses |
| 12:13.49 | rrowland | Keep it challenging if it is |
| 12:13.50 | Arthas-zzz | exactly :) |
| 12:14.06 | Skizot | give it a go rrowland |
| 12:14.26 | rrowland | I'm running my AI right now so I can view the replay later and check out its build order etc |
| 12:14.41 | rrowland | In about 8 minutes it'll be done and I'll give it a go |
| 12:14.46 | Skizot | spectate an ai vs ai game. |
| 12:14.48 | Arthas-zzz | maphack - saves alot of time |
| 12:14.57 | rrowland | I gave myself maphack |
| 12:15.02 | rrowland | But I can't rewind etc |
| 12:15.04 | Arthas-zzz | ah |
| 12:15.16 | Arthas-zzz | ah well, gotta run |
| 12:15.19 | rrowland | Cya |
| 12:15.20 | Arthas-zzz | later |
| 12:16.14 | rrowland | There are no default AI functions to tell the AI to wall |
| 12:16.34 | rrowland | I think that's pretty unintuitive considering 2 of the 3 races have a function for walling |
| 12:16.58 | rrowland | Or just building near / rallying near a choke point in general |
| 12:17.03 | Clord | actually |
| 12:17.03 | rrowland | Or just identifying a choke point |
| 12:17.10 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/forum-restructure-aura-planetary-boss-chess/ |
| 12:17.10 | LuxusElg | god dammit! why won't my text tags fade?! |
| 12:17.12 | Clord | I think it is directly in supply depots etc |
| 12:17.13 | rrowland | I know there's a flag clord |
| 12:17.18 | Clord | to tell AI to build them to chokes |
| 12:17.22 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 12:17.22 | Clord | XD |
| 12:17.23 | rrowland | But |
| 12:17.29 | rrowland | I can't use that with SetStock |
| 12:17.40 | rrowland | Or if I can I don't know how |
| 12:18.03 | Clord | normally we would just need stock AI to do whatever we want for campaign etc but when doing from scratch... I wonder |
| 12:18.07 | Skizot | yeah map publishing is BROKEN |
| 12:18.13 | Skizot | http://i49.tinypic.com/qxqqeu.jpg |
| 12:18.17 | Skizot | http://i47.tinypic.com/214umn5.jpg |
| 12:18.21 | rrowland | Well set stock is kind of important |
| 12:18.25 | rrowland | If my base is destroyed |
| 12:18.30 | rrowland | Set stock tells the AI how to rebuild |
| 12:18.39 | Skizot | tell me how a 30 MEGABYTE MAP when through |
| 12:19.14 | rrowland | lol |
| 12:19.15 | rrowland | owned |
| 12:19.17 | Clord | yeah but in campaign side.... when bases are already built for AI... there is just rebuilt option directly for them.... this is bit more complex indeed to do for melee AI |
| 12:19.28 | Beider | is map uploading enabled again`? |
| 12:19.41 | Skizot | yeah but it's broken. |
| 12:19.45 | Skizot | very very broken |
| 12:19.47 | Bemoliph- | I remember someone said something about uploading 56 MB |
| 12:19.49 | rrowland | Well I guess since I will only really be walling in my initial build |
| 12:19.59 | rrowland | And after that I switch build states |
| 12:20.04 | rrowland | Which define their own way to rebuild |
| 12:20.13 | Beider | Anyone know if mods can be uploaded? |
| 12:20.17 | rrowland | I can set these with the build command instead |
| 12:20.21 | Skizot | i've made a fix to my map, and can't update it. |
| 12:20.41 | Skizot | if you look Bemoliph- my map is only 5 megs |
| 12:20.55 | Skizot | the other map is 1 meg. |
| 12:21.17 | Skizot | so according to blizzard 5 + 1 = 32 |
| 12:21.32 | rrowland | That sucks |
| 12:21.45 | rrowland | Can you delete it and reupload? |
| 12:21.50 | rrowland | If you delete it you can use the same name |
| 12:21.52 | Skizot | if i do... |
| 12:21.54 | rrowland | Even though it says you can't |
| 12:22.01 | Skizot | oh i can?! |
| 12:22.05 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 12:22.17 | Clord | oh and map names are supposed to be locked forever |
| 12:22.20 | Clord | in server side |
| 12:22.24 | Clord | even after delete |
| 12:22.25 | Clord | XD |
| 12:22.28 | Clord | I doubht that |
| 12:22.38 | rrowland | I've done it, so |
| 12:22.45 | Bemoliph- | I wonder why it thinks there is so much extra size usage, then |
| 12:23.29 | Clord | they don't get really locked well |
| 12:23.31 | Clord | it is broken |
| 12:23.31 | Skizot | i wish it would make up it's mind on the size |
| 12:23.32 | Clord | XD |
| 12:23.49 | Skizot | the upload window says it's 7 mb |
| 12:24.16 | Skizot | but the new version is up :D |
| 12:24.21 | Clord | these maps are oddly huge even without much triggers and data editing |
| 12:26.42 | rrowland | The banelings make it extremely hard |
| 12:26.49 | rrowland | And the inability to dodge projectiles |
| 12:26.55 | rrowland | And the flamethrower is op |
| 12:27.13 | Skizot | which projectiles? |
| 12:27.22 | rrowland | hydra spines and muta shots |
| 12:27.59 | Skizot | hmm... |
| 12:28.24 | Skizot | think mutas are too high? |
| 12:28.41 | rrowland | I dunno, I think I lost like 3 lives trying to get up the first ramp |
| 12:28.48 | rrowland | Cause I couldn't hit banelings before they got in range of me |
| 12:28.54 | Skizot | wow. |
| 12:29.04 | Skizot | i could lower thier health. |
| 12:29.14 | rrowland | If you kill a baneling it blows up |
| 12:29.25 | rrowland | Doing damage |
| 12:29.33 | rrowland | But anyway did you know your game can't be hosted? |
| 12:29.50 | rrowland | Publicly |
| 12:29.50 | Skizot | why not? |
| 12:29.57 | rrowland | It doesn't have an "other" game mode |
| 12:30.13 | Skizot | oh, well fuck that. |
| 12:30.21 | rrowland | You gotta make a game variant for it |
| 12:30.22 | Skizot | i'm NOT leaving it unlocked. |
| 12:30.23 | rrowland | It's pretty easy |
| 12:30.26 | rrowland | Ah |
| 12:30.29 | rrowland | Yeah you have to unlock it |
| 12:30.52 | Skizot | i've put WAY too much work into it for some dickhead to rename two things and release it as his. |
| 12:31.01 | rrowland | You've got like 50 people who know you made it lol |
| 12:31.26 | Skizot | well it's only two player anyways lol. |
| 12:31.33 | Skizot | also... |
| 12:31.39 | Skizot | set game speed to fast. |
| 12:31.42 | rrowland | But nobody on bnet will know it exists |
| 12:31.44 | Skizot | it seems to play better. |
| 12:32.15 | Skizot | well they will hopefully fix that issue. |
| 12:33.40 | Skizot | okay i took the banelings health down to 5 from 30 |
| 12:33.46 | Skizot | so they should be one shots. |
| 12:34.28 | Skizot | mutas are lowered |
| 12:34.29 | rrowland | At rnaomd points in the game my client will freeze for 5-10 seconds |
| 12:34.38 | Skizot | and halved thier health. |
| 12:34.42 | rrowland | And when I got to the boss my client dropped to about 1fps |
| 12:34.46 | rrowland | random* |
| 12:34.50 | Skizot | ...... |
| 12:35.30 | rrowland | I still have my debug window open from when I was working on my AI |
| 12:35.39 | rrowland | It's running about 100 loops a second right now |
| 12:36.04 | Skizot | what are the main loops? |
| 12:36.28 | rrowland | gt_camera2p_func, gt_camera_func, gt_gravity2p_func, gt_gravity_func, ht_hpupdate2p_func, gt_hpupdate_func |
| 12:36.38 | rrowland | also |
| 12:36.44 | rrowland | resetjumps2p and resetjumps |
| 12:36.50 | `3ICE | Skizot i told you to disable 2p triggers when its in 1p mode -.- |
| 12:36.53 | Skizot | are you playing 2p? |
| 12:36.56 | rrowland | No |
| 12:36.57 | rrowland | 1p |
| 12:37.03 | Skizot | they should be disabled.... |
| 12:37.04 | Skizot | wtf |
| 12:37.08 | `3ICE | maybe he is playing as blue |
| 12:37.14 | rrowland | Nope I'm red |
| 12:37.21 | `3ICE | then you broke it :) |
| 12:37.26 | rrowland | Also |
| 12:37.32 | rrowland | If it's a 2p issue |
| 12:37.39 | rrowland | Then it'll be just as bad if 2 people are playing anyway |
| 12:37.49 | rrowland | And half as bad with 1 player |
| 12:37.50 | `3ICE | i saw it on Skizot's livestream, the map looked extremely polished and well made |
| 12:37.53 | `3ICE | no lag no lockups |
| 12:37.59 | `3ICE | well, maybe his computer is better |
| 12:38.10 | `3ICE | im sure it'd crash on mine |
| 12:38.12 | Skizot | they ARE disabled. |
| 12:38.19 | rrowland | lol skiz |
| 12:38.32 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.33 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.33 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.33 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.33 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.33 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.33 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.34 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.36 | Skizot | ..... |
| 12:38.46 | `3ICE | yeah but you maybe turn it back on somewhere else |
| 12:38.53 | rrowland | Did you make it so if you stuck around long enough an NPC insta-gibbed the boss? |
| 12:39.26 | rrowland | But yeah |
| 12:39.33 | rrowland | You probably set them back on when I got to the boss |
| 12:39.39 | rrowland | Cause that's when I started lagging horribly |
| 12:40.03 | `3ICE | 1-player mode 2-player mode is bad design... use x-player mode |
| 12:40.29 | rrowland | Also skiz |
| 12:40.37 | rrowland | You can make a copy of your map |
| 12:40.39 | rrowland | Delete the trigger file |
| 12:40.42 | rrowland | And upload that |
| 12:40.49 | `3ICE | yeah, good weak protection |
| 12:40.54 | rrowland | No way to remake the triggers |
| 12:41.04 | rrowland | So modifying it will be pretty rough |
| 12:41.07 | `3ICE | and no1 will care about stealing your galaxy code |
| 12:41.15 | `3ICE | i mean i could, but why would I? <3 |
| 12:41.22 | Skizot | that's what locked does. |
| 12:41.34 | `3ICE | but you can delete the triggers |
| 12:41.39 | `3ICE | and then upload it as unlocked |
| 12:41.39 | Skizot | <Sixen> Supposedly it removes the Triggers file and obfuscates MapScript.galaxy |
| 12:41.40 | Skizot | <Sixen> And also breaks the attributes file |
| 12:41.42 | rrowland | If that's all locked does then why not unlock it and just do it yourself |
| 12:41.52 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 12:41.57 | rrowland | You can also obfuscate the galaxy file |
| 12:42.02 | `3ICE | that map needs to go on bnet |
| 12:42.12 | rrowland | By replacing all variable names with an MD5 of themselves |
| 12:42.13 | `3ICE | it is so much better and challenging than the other maps |
| 12:42.21 | rrowland | Good luck to people trying to decipher that |
| 12:42.23 | `3ICE | rrowland ok you are going too far lol |
| 12:42.38 | rrowland | ? It's pretty simple |
| 12:42.43 | rrowland | Just change all the variable names |
| 12:42.45 | `3ICE | but there is no need for it |
| 12:42.47 | rrowland | To something nondescript |
| 12:42.58 | s4ikD | maybe u know this, 3ICE.. is there a possibility to exclude variations of models? or single model .m3's from the map so that they dont show up as a variation? |
| 12:42.58 | rrowland | And hard to tell apart |
| 12:43.09 | Skizot | good catch rrowland |
| 12:43.13 | `3ICE | s4ikD SORRY, DONT KNOW MUCH 'BOUT MODELS |
| 12:43.17 | s4ikD | aight |
| 12:43.18 | `3ICE | whoops caps |
| 12:43.19 | Skizot | it was reenabling the 2p at the first boss. |
| 12:43.19 | s4ikD | thx nyway |
| 12:43.35 | rrowland | But if there are 2 players |
| 12:43.36 | Skizot | s4ikD |
| 12:43.39 | rrowland | Is it going to lag that bad? |
| 12:43.39 | s4ikD | yah |
| 12:43.40 | Skizot | it IS possible. |
| 12:43.54 | s4ikD | do you know how? |
| 12:43.55 | Skizot | the reason it's lagging, is because there is no unit for it to move.. |
| 12:44.06 | `3ICE | are we talking about doodads? |
| 12:44.09 | Skizot | wait.. to exclude? |
| 12:44.11 | rrowland | Hope so |
| 12:44.13 | s4ikD | yes f.e. |
| 12:44.17 | s4ikD | yes exclude |
| 12:44.22 | s4ikD | like the wrecked sandbags |
| 12:44.26 | `3ICE | thats easy :) edit the actor |
| 12:44.36 | s4ikD | i'd like to exclude the variations with the dead marine on them |
| 12:44.38 | Skizot | you could make a new doodad that just has that model. |
| 12:44.45 | s4ikD | yah well the variations are in the .m3 file |
| 12:44.56 | Skizot | no. |
| 12:45.04 | Skizot | the variations are SPERATE models. |
| 12:45.09 | `3ICE | each variation is a separate m3 file afaik |
| 12:45.17 | `3ICE | yep, I agree with Skizot |
| 12:45.26 | s4ikD | hm.. when i view it it shows all 5 of em |
| 12:45.30 | Skizot | i may suck at code. |
| 12:45.31 | s4ikD | in that lil preview window |
| 12:45.34 | s4ikD | but yah ok |
| 12:45.35 | Skizot | but models i know. |
| 12:46.07 | Skizot | my map has like 10 custom models. |
| 12:46.27 | `3ICE | d:\Program Files\StarCraft2Beta\Mods\zz_All\Assets\Doodads\WreckedSandbags\WreckedSandbags_00.m3 |
| 12:46.27 | `3ICE | d:\Program Files\StarCraft2Beta\Mods\zz_All\Assets\Doodads\WreckedSandbags\WreckedSandbags_01.m3 |
| 12:46.27 | `3ICE | d:\Program Files\StarCraft2Beta\Mods\zz_All\Assets\Doodads\WreckedSandbags\WreckedSandbags_02.m3 |
| 12:46.37 | s4ikD | kk |
| 12:46.38 | `3ICE | there ya go, are there only 3 variants? |
| 12:46.40 | s4ikD | check the haven crates |
| 12:46.54 | Skizot | haven crates have like 5 variations. |
| 12:47.07 | s4ikD | yea |
| 12:47.08 | s4ikD | sec |
| 12:47.11 | `3ICE | umm |
| 12:47.13 | Skizot | check the MODEL in the data editor, there IS a variations field. |
| 12:47.17 | `3ICE | haven crates 1st model is 500kb |
| 12:47.17 | WaterKnight | maybe they are automatically put together by consecutive numbers in path |
| 12:47.19 | `3ICE | the rest are 30 |
| 12:47.20 | `3ICE | wtf |
| 12:47.25 | `3ICE | thats not right |
| 12:47.31 | s4ikD | it only uses the 1. |
| 12:47.37 | s4ikD | HavenDoodadsCrates.m3 |
| 12:47.46 | s4ikD | and thats the one with all the 5 variations inside |
| 12:47.53 | s4ikD | thats what i meant.. its not on all models |
| 12:47.56 | `3ICE | hmm changed my mind then :) |
| 12:47.59 | s4ikD | but that one is.. dunnow why though |
| 12:48.05 | Skizot | that's wrong though. |
| 12:48.08 | Skizot | i just opened it. |
| 12:48.12 | Skizot | it's a single model. |
| 12:48.18 | `3ICE | anyway i just crashed my editor egain |
| 12:48.19 | s4ikD | in the previewer? |
| 12:48.24 | Skizot | in 3ds max |
| 12:48.32 | s4ikD | so the preview of it is wrong? |
| 12:48.35 | Skizot | yeah |
| 12:48.43 | Skizot | it's opening allt he variations somehow. |
| 12:48.47 | `3ICE | the previewer in the editor automerges all the separate m3 files |
| 12:48.49 | s4ikD | yah |
| 12:48.54 | Skizot | this model might be an older format. |
| 12:49.21 | s4ikD | same with the floodlights doodad.. theres an m3 entry on the model of a file which isnt viewable in the previewer |
| 12:49.30 | Skizot | but it IS actually using all the single variation is the regular format. |
| 12:49.35 | Skizot | _00 etc. |
| 12:50.02 | s4ikD | yah |
| 12:50.17 | `3ICE | yo i solved it |
| 12:50.20 | `3ICE | 3ICE solves! |
| 12:50.24 | Skizot | rrowland if i do another update you mind checking it out? |
| 12:50.34 | `3ICE | You have to change "Variation count" on the actor |
| 12:50.50 | rrowland | Sure |
| 12:50.52 | s4ikD | yah well |
| 12:50.58 | s4ikD | i knew that |
| 12:51.04 | s4ikD | but if u have 5 variations |
| 12:51.11 | `3ICE | then you lose them all |
| 12:51.11 | s4ikD | and the first 2 are the ones u dont want |
| 12:51.20 | s4ikD | then u're screwed |
| 12:51.25 | `3ICE | yep |
| 12:51.35 | s4ikD | and thats pretty much my problem :D |
| 12:51.40 | `3ICE | ouch |
| 12:51.59 | depthsofchaos | just export them them import in different name |
| 12:52.04 | `3ICE | i still solved it :) |
| 12:52.05 | depthsofchaos | like _00 _01 |
| 12:52.08 | `3ICE | the field under variationcount |
| 12:52.10 | `3ICE | can be changed |
| 12:52.16 | AgentPaper | can you only do: X = X+2? or can you directly add a value to a variable? |
| 12:52.20 | s4ikD | ? |
| 12:52.28 | `3ICE | AgentPaper modify variable is a function |
| 12:52.34 | AgentPaper | ah |
| 12:52.34 | `3ICE | use it |
| 12:52.44 | `3ICE | it works like variable, modifyer, value |
| 12:52.53 | `3ICE | so like tempInt, +, 2 |
| 12:53.35 | `3ICE | this... Variations field is crazy |
| 12:53.45 | `3ICE | but it should do the trick if we figure out how it works |
| 12:53.52 | s4ikD | hm |
| 12:54.09 | `3ICE | can't help you with that field, my editor crashes if i preview a model :) |
| 12:54.20 | Skizot | okay i THINK i cleaned up all the turn on p2;s |
| 12:54.23 | `3ICE | genius thwarted by lack of money :D |
| 12:54.29 | s4ikD | wait a sec |
| 12:54.36 | s4ikD | where did u find that? |
| 12:54.45 | s4ikD | im confused |
| 12:54.56 | `3ICE | on the actor i turned on advanced and raw view |
| 12:54.58 | s4ikD | a variation field on the actor |
| 12:54.59 | `3ICE | then poof it was there |
| 12:55.19 | AgentPaper | huh, units don't have point values anymore? |
| 12:55.21 | AgentPaper | odd |
| 12:55.28 | s4ikD | hm |
| 12:55.36 | s4ikD | how is it called exactly? |
| 12:55.36 | Hati | they never had ? |
| 12:55.41 | AgentPaper | they did in WC3 |
| 12:55.49 | Hati | GetPoint(UnitPosition) |
| 12:55.50 | Hati | done |
| 12:55.56 | s4ikD | and which actor are u looking at, 3ICE? |
| 12:55.58 | AgentPaper | no not the unit's position |
| 12:56.01 | AgentPaper | I mean it's point value |
| 12:56.13 | AgentPaper | like zergling is 50, marine is 100, carrier is 1000 |
| 12:56.15 | AgentPaper | or whatever |
| 12:56.18 | Hati | Score |
| 12:56.19 | Hati | Data Editor |
| 12:56.34 | AgentPaper | ah |
| 12:56.41 | Hati | for building or whatever |
| 12:56.49 | AgentPaper | then I guess you just can't get the score with triggers |
| 12:56.58 | AgentPaper | or it's not a real... |
| 12:57.07 | Hati | you can |
| 12:57.14 | AgentPaper | or an int |
| 12:57.14 | Hati | GetCatalogFieldValue |
| 12:57.17 | `3ICE | http://3ice.hu/img/DoodadVariations.png |
| 12:57.20 | Hati | they are fixeds |
| 12:57.22 | AgentPaper | well that's galaxy |
| 12:57.33 | Skizot | that's what i said like 10 minutes ago. |
| 12:57.34 | Skizot | lol |
| 12:57.45 | rrowland | You upload skiz? |
| 12:57.54 | Skizot | <+Skizot> check the MODEL in the data editor, there IS a variations field. |
| 12:58.18 | `3ICE | wow i didnt realizce i clicked the model in object explorer :) |
| 12:58.29 | s4ikD | lol |
| 12:58.30 | s4ikD | ^^ |
| 12:58.31 | `3ICE | haha |
| 12:58.49 | `3ICE | no wonder i kept crashing its a 3d model |
| 12:58.55 | `3ICE | i can't look at those |
| 12:59.04 | s4ikD | saw that one too.. but it only has options for textures |
| 12:59.05 | Skizot | pubbing now. |
| 12:59.12 | s4ikD | and it works fine for me.. no crashes :p |
| 12:59.38 | `3ICE | crash due to no GPU |
| 12:59.42 | s4ikD | i see |
| 13:00.07 | `3ICE | i am forcing my editor to open by faking a gpu but when it comes to displaying a model my trickery fails and the editor crashes |
| 13:00.08 | Skizot | it's up rrowland |
| 13:00.21 | s4ikD | :) |
| 13:00.39 | `3ICE | \away Digging up the garden, be back in an hour! |
| 13:00.40 | `3ICE | whoops |
| 13:00.48 | s4ikD | but wait, when you're trying to open the variations field it crashes? |
| 13:01.55 | rrowland | btw |
| 13:02.00 | rrowland | Are there supposed to be dialogs? |
| 13:02.02 | rrowland | At the beginning? |
| 13:02.07 | Skizot | ? |
| 13:02.14 | depthsofchaos | is it only me or blizzard disabled map bumping ?:o |
| 13:04.02 | Skizot | rrowland, what dialogs? |
| 13:04.20 | Computerpunk | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/justin-bieber-whale.jpg |
| 13:04.50 | rrowland | When NPCs talk |
| 13:05.12 | rrowland | Looks like you set 2p mode again |
| 13:05.14 | rrowland | After first boss |
| 13:07.01 | rrowland | I don't know if it's because of the lag but the second boss made it so I was unable to move and any time I jumped I warped all over the screen |
| 13:07.29 | rrowland | Also to get to the first boss I basically just ran through all the enemies shooting in a straight line, taking like 2 deaths |
| 13:07.40 | rrowland | Cause it seemed pretty impossible to kill them all |
| 13:09.55 | Skizot | what? |
| 13:10.07 | rrowland | Um |
| 13:10.14 | rrowland | When the NPCs talk I don't see any dialog text |
| 13:10.23 | Skizot | bottom left? |
| 13:10.26 | rrowland | Also after the first boss it seems to revert to 2p mode again |
| 13:10.28 | rrowland | Anywhere |
| 13:10.34 | rrowland | During any "cutscene" |
| 13:11.33 | rrowland | And lastly I was saying the baneling/hydra/mutas coming so fast in combination make it pretty impossible to finish the gauntlet before the first boss by killing them all and moving forward |
| 13:11.35 | AgentPaper | so, I've got some experience with leaderboard in WC3, but what would I be using if I wanted to make a table that shows various values for each player and bars filling and such? |
| 13:11.38 | AgentPaper | still a leaderboard? |
| 13:11.41 | rrowland | At least with the bnet lag |
| 13:11.45 | AgentPaper | or a data table? |
| 13:11.48 | AgentPaper | or something else? |
| 13:12.01 | Skizot | hmmm |
| 13:12.11 | AgentPaper | some UI thing? |
| 13:12.20 | Skizot | i even turned down the baneling count :( |
| 13:12.28 | rrowland | If I try to shoot a muta I usually get hit by a baneling |
| 13:12.37 | Skizot | that's the catch lol. |
| 13:12.41 | rrowland | And if I try to shoot the baneling the muta takes more unavoidable shots at me |
| 13:12.47 | Skizot | think i should have the suicide damage? |
| 13:12.50 | rrowland | But the mutas seem to have too much hp |
| 13:12.57 | Skizot | i cut em in half. |
| 13:13.04 | Skizot | 120 to 60 |
| 13:13.08 | rrowland | I'd cut the muta hp and make it so a skilled player can dodge the muta's shot |
| 13:13.11 | rrowland | As a projectile |
| 13:13.19 | Skizot | drop em to 30? |
| 13:13.45 | Clord | if something hard maps teach |
| 13:13.49 | rrowland | Maybe 80 or something and turn the attacks into directional projectiles that can be dodge by aware players |
| 13:13.49 | Clord | is that they are easily more popular |
| 13:13.55 | Skizot | I'll do them a projectile. |
| 13:13.59 | AgentPaper | fine whatever, I'll just faff around with the leaderboard |
| 13:14.20 | Skizot | rrowland |
| 13:14.26 | Skizot | join #terranconflict |
| 13:14.33 | Skizot | so i can keep your thoughts up. |
| 13:14.54 | rrowland | I remember back when I was like... 15 |
| 13:15.00 | Verr82 | Is there a trigger that mutes a player from chat? |
| 13:15.06 | rrowland | I had a script that joined me to a ton of channels when I connected |
| 13:15.10 | rrowland | How do I remake that script? |
| 13:17.17 | LuxusElg | just open favorites, add the channel and check Join on connect for freenode |
| 13:17.32 | LuxusElg | in mIRC that is |
| 13:17.52 | LuxusElg | ofc, you also have to check Enable Join on Connect |
| 13:24.33 | rrowland | Cool, thanks :) |
| 13:25.20 | Cyther | how do I add energy / shield values to a unit in the data editor? |
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| 13:27.08 | rrowland | Go to the unit... and then you add energy and shields... |
| 13:27.18 | Pandepic | we should do an sc2mapster collab project sometime |
| 13:27.25 | Pandepic | some ridiculous project |
| 13:27.37 | Pandepic | that nobody would ever dare attempt |
| 13:36.06 | Beider | I had a guy telling me he was looking for people for a new water starcraft project for SC2 |
| 13:44.51 | s4ikD | does anyone know how to import .m3 files into a map? i cant figure it out... |
| 13:46.43 | Fisker | anyone checked how the facebook integration in SC2 works? |
| 13:46.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster FRoZeN (~lul@91.100.29.2.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 13:47.59 | Sixen | Anyone that's bored... Can you give the Mapster contest threads a bump? Maybe the bnet forums will bring some more contestants... http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25135303343 and http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25135303349 |
| 13:48.01 | Sixen | Thanks, <3. |
| 13:48.09 | Sixen | And now it's almost 7am. I need to go to sleep. |
| 13:49.06 | Skizot | shush sixen |
| 13:50.57 | Pandepic | water starcraft project? |
| 13:53.08 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
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| 13:53.38 | Sixen | hai |
| 13:55.01 | Fisker | do you facebook? |
| 13:57.22 | Khono | Quick question, is there a hotkey for rotating things in the editor, like doodads? |
| 13:59.05 | Fisker | DO YOU FACEBOOK? |
| 14:00.14 | Khono | NO I DO NOT PERFORM ANY ACTION DESCRBIED AS "FACEBOOK"!!!11 |
| 14:00.57 | Sixen | mebe |
| 14:00.58 | Sixen | find me. |
| 14:00.59 | Sixen | mwhaha |
| 14:01.12 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 14:01.15 | Fisker | answer my question |
| 14:02.10 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:02.17 | Fisker | my hate list is growing |
| 14:02.23 | Fisker | actually it's shrinking |
| 14:02.42 | Fisker | because it got so big that it was easier to just base it on a whitelist filter instead |
| 14:03.59 | Khono | I'm sure everyone on that list is very deserving of hate. |
| 14:04.40 | Fisker | not since it's a whitelist |
| 14:04.47 | `3ICE | You are no longer marked as being away |
| 14:05.31 | Fisker | hates `3ICE |
| 14:06.06 | Khono | Hmm, I seem to recall seeing x3ICEx in a credit list recently. |
| 14:06.20 | `3ICE | reflects Fisker's attack of hate and now Fisker hates himself. |
| 14:06.30 | `3ICE | Yay I'm famous? |
| 14:06.37 | Khono | :) |
| 14:08.10 | `3ICE | well, half-famous as he used my wrong name :/ |
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| 14:09.51 | Khono | oh hah |
| 14:10.02 | Khono | Well the map doesn't work well anyways :-p |
| 14:10.11 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 14:10.14 | Fisker | i will hurt you |
| 14:10.19 | `3ICE | sixen went to bed a couple minutes ago. |
| 14:10.25 | Khono | lolz |
| 14:10.26 | `3ICE | [15:54:10] <@Sixen> And now it's almost 7am. I need to go to sleep. |
| 14:10.53 | `3ICE | [16:08:03] <@Sixen> find me. |
| 14:10.54 | `3ICE | [16:08:04] <@Sixen> mwhaha |
| 14:11.06 | `3ICE | lol I'm a bad person |
| 14:11.23 | `3ICE | quoting sixen out of context to make it sexually suggestive |
| 14:11.57 | Khono | :-p |
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| 14:12.53 | Khono | Answer to my own question: numpad * and / by 90 degrees, ctrol + / or * by 1 degree. |
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| 14:33.33 | Kerotan | Anyone know where to find the sound options for a units attack? For some reason there are none |
| 14:34.30 | casperb | Khrono, ctrl alt left mouse |
| 14:35.02 | casperb | Or something like it, atleast modifier keys + left mouse |
| 14:37.48 | Pandepic | changing the attack sounds is really obscure and annoying |
| 14:38.23 | Pandepic | you need to change the ability attached to the weapon's effect |
| 14:38.41 | Pandepic | the actor* |
| 14:39.20 | Kerotan | Hm |
| 14:39.47 | Kerotan | Huh.. |
| 14:39.55 | Kerotan | I dont get what you mean tbh |
| 14:40.06 | Pandepic | your unit has weapons |
| 14:40.09 | Kerotan | Yes |
| 14:40.10 | Pandepic | the weapons have effects |
| 14:40.15 | Pandepic | those effects have actors attached to them |
| 14:40.16 | Kerotan | Yep |
| 14:40.19 | Pandepic | in the actors tab |
| 14:40.22 | Pandepic | you have to search the name |
| 14:40.29 | Pandepic | it's not linked from the effect's fields for some reason |
| 14:40.45 | Pandepic | you need to also turn on raw view to see the links on the actors |
| 14:41.18 | Kerotan | Ok, so what am I looking for on the actors tab of my unit? |
| 14:41.33 | Pandepic | not the unit actor |
| 14:41.36 | Pandepic | the effect's actor |
| 14:41.52 | Kerotan | Ah ok |
| 14:41.58 | Pandepic | it's a bit weird |
| 14:42.23 | Pandepic | inside that you'll have different sound fields |
| 14:42.32 | Pandepic | one of them is Impact, to set sounds on different target impacts |
| 14:42.37 | Pandepic | the other is Launch |
| 14:42.41 | Pandepic | for the launch sounds |
| 14:42.53 | Kerotan | Um, I only have turret actors for my units |
| 14:43.14 | Pandepic | do they have weapons with effects? |
| 14:43.37 | Kerotan | Yes |
| 14:43.46 | Pandepic | the weapon's effect should have an actor somewhere |
| 14:43.51 | Pandepic | that's where you set the models and sounds |
| 14:44.01 | Pandepic | if it doesn't you can make a new actor and link it |
| 14:45.00 | Kerotan | Ok, I think its best to make a new actor since it doenst look like I have one :s |
| 14:45.07 | Kerotan | What type of actor should it be? |
| 14:45.20 | Pandepic | I'm not sure, I just duplicate the marine attack one |
| 14:45.22 | Pandepic | and edit it |
| 14:45.29 | Pandepic | whatever type of actor that one is |
| 14:45.37 | Kerotan | Ok so GenericAttack :p |
| 14:45.42 | Pandepic | =P |
| 14:46.12 | rrowland | God AI pisses me off |
| 14:46.36 | Kerotan | Now im going to spend on hour trying to figure out how to link them :p |
| 14:47.05 | rrowland | I've spent like 4 hours trying to figure out how to make a gateway turn into a warp gate before making units out of it |
| 14:47.24 | rrowland | No matter what it finishes making all of the units set by setstock |
| 14:47.27 | rrowland | And then warps it |
| 14:47.39 | Pandepic | do you have to clearstock or whatever? |
| 14:47.47 | Pandepic | I don't remember the AI functions very well |
| 14:48.07 | Pandepic | Kerotan |
| 14:48.10 | Pandepic | turn on raw view |
| 14:48.16 | Pandepic | and link them in the top right box that appears |
| 14:48.25 | Pandepic | one of those fields gives you a list of all effects |
| 14:48.28 | Pandepic | and you just choose one |
| 14:48.37 | Kerotan | Ye I found that |
| 14:48.46 | Kerotan | But not sure which effects to link them too |
| 14:48.52 | Pandepic | the weapon's effect |
| 14:49.00 | Kerotan | = Damage? |
| 14:49.10 | Pandepic | whatever the effect is called on your weapon |
| 14:49.19 | Pandepic | for mine it's called BasicMarineRifle |
| 14:49.21 | Kerotan | Ive got multiple effects for each unit lol |
| 14:49.50 | Pandepic | link it to the effect you want that actor to link to |
| 14:49.55 | Pandepic | whichever effect should make the sound |
| 14:50.02 | Pandepic | on whichever weapon |
| 14:51.02 | Kerotan | Why did they make this so complicated :s |
| 14:51.40 | Pandepic | lol I was thinking the same thing |
| 14:51.46 | Pandepic | imo the sounds should just be on the effects |
| 14:51.49 | Pandepic | if not on the weapons |
| 14:52.05 | Pandepic | or at least have a field in the effects |
| 14:52.11 | Pandepic | to link to the actor so you can see it easily |
| 14:52.25 | Kerotan | You have to go through so many menus to change one little thing |
| 14:53.21 | Pandepic | yeah |
| 14:53.27 | Pandepic | it makes custom units take forever |
| 14:53.45 | Pandepic | I've only gotten 4 of them done today >> |
| 14:53.52 | Pandepic | in wc3 editor I'd have had all the ones for my map done today |
| 14:53.58 | Kerotan | Same here, still cant figure out the sound though :s |
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| 14:54.08 | Pandepic | look at how the marine weapon works |
| 14:54.18 | Pandepic | it has an actor attached to the weapon's effect |
| 14:54.28 | Pandepic | that actor has the machine gun firing effect on it |
| 14:54.34 | Pandepic | and the impact sounds |
| 14:54.58 | Kerotan | Combat - Launch Assets |
| 14:54.59 | Kerotan | wtf |
| 14:55.46 | Pandepic | LaunchAssets_Sound lol |
| 14:56.11 | Pandepic | if you search for MarineAttack in actors |
| 14:56.18 | Pandepic | you can see the one linked to the marine's weapon effect |
| 14:56.25 | Pandepic | that's what I base mine off of |
| 14:56.30 | Kerotan | Almost got it I think |
| 14:56.40 | Pandepic | cool |
| 14:56.47 | Kerotan | Wrong sound file maybe |
| 14:56.58 | Pandepic | did a sound play at least? =P |
| 14:57.01 | Kerotan | ye |
| 14:57.01 | Kerotan | Hm |
| 14:57.11 | Pandepic | haha at least it's progress |
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| 14:58.27 | Kerotan | Done. |
| 14:58.28 | Kerotan | Thanks |
| 14:58.37 | Kerotan | Not impressed, would never have thought to look under that, I mean wtf. |
| 14:58.37 | Pandepic | you're welcome |
| 14:59.00 | Kerotan | Now ive gotta find out how to add the construction sounds |
| 14:59.20 | Pandepic | I want to know how to make the build model play the animation |
| 15:07.23 | s4ikD | has nyone experience with footprint creation? |
| 15:08.26 | s4ikD | no one? |
| 15:08.44 | `3ICE | it is slightly broken but i can use it |
| 15:09.12 | `3ICE | your best bet is using the already existing ones and not doing any fancy footprinting |
| 15:09.48 | MrRoy | I need some help over here |
| 15:09.50 | `3ICE | what kind of footprint will we be doing? |
| 15:10.08 | MrRoy | I've made a probe that doesn't collision with anything. I can go through anything (gave it flying properties) |
| 15:10.23 | MrRoy | but I don't want that probe to be able to go through cliffs or holes |
| 15:10.31 | MrRoy | I tried putting no fly zones and no pathing, but it can still go |
| 15:10.44 | Grum | dont make it flying, make its collission size 0 :) |
| 15:10.46 | `3ICE | simplest solution is locking him in a region |
| 15:10.58 | `3ICE | event - probie leaves region action move probie back in there! |
| 15:10.59 | s4ikD | i need 3x2 and 2x3.. lucky me that they dont already exist |
| 15:11.02 | s4ikD | tel |
| 15:11.05 | s4ikD | afk |
| 15:11.18 | MrRoy | well |
| 15:11.32 | MrRoy | instead could I make regions where I don't want him to pass and make if he enters teleport to point X? |
| 15:11.41 | `3ICE | sure |
| 15:11.47 | MrRoy | ok I'll try that |
| 15:13.50 | `3ICE | bad news s4ikD for some reason footprints crash my editor just like 3d models to (even though they are only 2d...) |
| 15:14.02 | `3ICE | I'll go find you a video tutorial |
| 15:14.12 | s4ikD | -.- |
| 15:14.29 | s4ikD | looked already.. didnt find a thing.. 1 post in the official forums |
| 15:14.39 | `3ICE | yeah except i have seen one |
| 15:14.42 | `3ICE | so :o |
| 15:14.43 | s4ikD | but you found more already so i let you surprise me |
| 15:14.49 | s4ikD | :D |
| 15:15.05 | `3ICE | h/o I'm under attack... |
| 15:16.57 | `3ICE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qV3IMGUKks 1:38 |
| 15:17.08 | s4ikD | <3 |
| 15:17.12 | `3ICE | not exactly pathing, but creep spawning, but its dont with footprints so should be useful |
| 15:17.24 | s4ikD | i'll take a look at it asap |
| 15:23.16 | Twiner | HyBReD: you arround? |
| 15:24.34 | Twiner | its really awesome how beautiful you can make maps in Sc2 |
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| 15:25.57 | Twiner | lol |
| 15:26.00 | Flop | any way to make either a trigger event or condition that is "if unit nearby does this, do __ " or "if unit does this, [condition] unit == nearby" |
| 15:26.07 | Twiner | "ya just click here, I don't know why, I don't know what it does" |
| 15:26.13 | Twiner | laughs heartfully |
| 15:27.45 | Pandepic | that wasn't funny Twiner |
| 15:27.55 | Twiner | how is that funny |
| 15:28.10 | Twiner | doing things that have an effect and not knowing why is a good way to create future bugs |
| 15:28.11 | Pandepic | now you've confused me << |
| 15:28.18 | Twiner | how is that not funny |
| 15:28.38 | Twiner | I'm refering to that video |
| 15:28.50 | `3ICE | the video I linked |
| 15:28.54 | Pandepic | *goes back to morphing stuff* |
| 15:28.55 | `3ICE | courtesy of OneTwo |
| 15:29.11 | `3ICE | he doesnt know why clicking there fixes the bug but it does so yeah |
| 15:29.20 | `3ICE | besides its just a zergling having 1/4 pathing |
| 15:29.21 | rrowland | Okay for anyone who may or may not waste 5 hours on this as I have in the future |
| 15:29.29 | `3ICE | not an issue as lings prevent building placement anyway |
| 15:29.42 | Pandepic | zerglings are the greatest thing ever |
| 15:29.46 | rrowland | The event "Any Unit construction is Completed" returns Triggering Unit as null |
| 15:29.53 | rrowland | Because it uses Triggering Progress Unit instead |
| 15:30.07 | `3ICE | jesus what an inconsistency :s |
| 15:30.16 | `3ICE | commits rrowland's find to memory. |
| 15:30.33 | rrowland | I seriously just spent the last 5 hours changing every part of my function except that |
| 15:30.41 | Pandepic | nice find |
| 15:32.10 | Pandepic | I had a similar problem before |
| 15:32.15 | Pandepic | I ended up just using a different trigger |
| 15:33.31 | Flop | onetwosc's vids are sick, idk y he doesnt have like thousands of views per video |
| 15:33.34 | Flop | an undiscovered gem |
| 15:34.15 | `3ICE | I am doing my best to increase his viewcount. |
| 15:35.23 | Flop | how lol |
| 15:35.56 | `3ICE | linking his videos |
| 15:35.56 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.07 | casperb | Difficuly Value is broken? |
| 15:37.19 | Flop | i like how im watching a tutorial on "voting, creep trails, and camera" and 6 minutes in hes still placing trees |
| 15:37.21 | `3ICE | afaik beta only has one difficulty which is easy |
| 15:37.23 | Flop | lol, oh onetoo... |
| 15:37.33 | `3ICE | we all love OneTwo :) |
| 15:39.31 | Twiner | yall know how to use unit is clicked? |
| 15:39.39 | `3ICE | it works!? |
| 15:39.57 | casperb | `3ICE: In-game yep, but for custom maps it shouldn't matter as it's just a integer read, debug reads that it's set to insane but ends up being normal for all modes |
| 15:40.31 | Twiner | `3ICE: TALKING TO ME>? |
| 15:40.33 | Twiner | woops |
| 15:40.44 | `3ICE | <3 capslock happened to mee to 'bout three hours back |
| 15:40.58 | casperb | real IRC friendly name btw ice :P |
| 15:41.03 | `3ICE | heh |
| 15:41.13 | `3ICE | irc hates me for having the nickname "3ICE" |
| 15:41.14 | Twiner | I' want to know what his name really is |
| 15:41.20 | `3ICE | i am forced to use workarounds |
| 15:41.20 | Twiner | Bice? |
| 15:41.24 | Twiner | thrice? |
| 15:41.29 | Twiner | three ice? |
| 15:41.36 | casperb | first char is a tree key claw combo :D |
| 15:41.38 | `3ICE | i was x3ICEx until someone showed me ` |
| 15:41.49 | `3ICE | I think it was rrowlan |
| 15:42.06 | casperb | three * |
| 15:42.07 | `3ICE | yeah, actually i go by thrice among friends |
| 15:42.29 | `3ICE | and ice for short |
| 15:43.01 | rrowland | I'm too lazy to type out all three letters of ICE so I just call him I |
| 15:43.14 | `3ICE | no, you usually call me x3I or `I |
| 15:43.37 | `3ICE | i am also lazy, i called you rrowlan |
| 15:43.47 | rrowland | I saw |
| 15:43.48 | rrowland | Lazy |
| 15:43.51 | `3ICE | oh my, where did that d go :) |
| 15:44.59 | rrowland | Didn't the person who put up the last "planetary boss hunt" video say "Why did I feature this game without playing it?" |
| 15:45.01 | Twiner | i just hit ` tab, and it gets me `3ICE |
| 15:45.12 | `3ICE | yeah some people don't know about the tab trick |
| 15:45.16 | Twiner | nice and easy every time `3ICE |
| 15:45.25 | Twiner | `3ICE `3ICE `3ICE `3ICE `3ICE `3ICE `3ICE `3ICE `3ICE` |
| 15:45.36 | Twiner | anyways |
| 15:45.37 | `3ICE | btw i press rr<tab><backspace> |
| 15:45.48 | Twiner | I should work on my roguelike map |
| 15:45.53 | `3ICE | backspace so i dont make his pc beep |
| 15:46.00 | rrowland | lol |
| 15:46.04 | `3ICE | polite ftw |
| 15:46.10 | rrowland | Mine doesn't beep |
| 15:46.15 | `3ICE | what!? omg fail |
| 15:46.22 | Twiner | thanks for the information, now I know how to annoy him/her when I have to |
| 15:46.24 | `3ICE | how do we get hold of you in an emergency then? |
| 15:46.33 | rrowland | query me |
| 15:46.41 | `3ICE | blargh eugh uh? |
| 15:46.43 | rrowland | That beeps |
| 15:46.54 | rrowland | But saying my name doesnt |
| 15:47.08 | Twiner | I wonder if I can make a transparent map overlay |
| 15:47.22 | `3ICE | how would you click through that? :) |
| 15:47.33 | Twiner | thats why I said I wonder if I can do it |
| 15:47.48 | `3ICE | yeah mby later |
| 15:48.11 | `3ICE | we must QQ to Blizzard about every little feature we want. |
| 15:48.12 | Flop | OK WTF does "variant definition is not valid" mean |
| 15:48.13 | rrowland | My god, what the hell this doesn't even MAKE ANY SENSE |
| 15:48.14 | rrowland | AHHHHHH |
| 15:48.21 | Flop | i keep trying to publish and it wont let me |
| 15:48.27 | `3ICE | Introducing frustrated rrowland. |
| 15:48.40 | rrowland | Seriously this makes 0 sense |
| 15:48.42 | `3ICE | Flop publish hates you |
| 15:48.43 | Flop | i changed ALL of the variants thing back to default and it still doesnt work |
| 15:48.47 | Flop | aepifjipaefjhaefjiopae |
| 15:48.54 | rrowland | I tell my gateway to become a warp gate |
| 15:48.59 | rrowland | FINALLY after 5 hours it does! |
| 15:49.00 | `3ICE | default variants are borken like crazy |
| 15:49.10 | rrowland | But now after it becomes a warpgate |
| 15:49.13 | rrowland | It becomes unpowered |
| 15:49.20 | rrowland | Despite being powered by multiple pylons |
| 15:49.21 | rrowland | Wtf? |
| 15:49.53 | `3ICE | mayb they experienced a power surge happens w/ high level tech too. |
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| 15:50.14 | `3ICE | I know... not helpful. |
| 15:51.03 | MrRoy | How can I make it that everytime player X kills 1 unit, player X recieves X minerals |
| 15:51.11 | MrRoy | I can't find kill in events |
| 15:51.12 | `3ICE | kill resource |
| 15:51.24 | MrRoy | but what do I put as event |
| 15:51.27 | MrRoy | unit dies? |
| 15:51.37 | `3ICE | no event |
| 15:51.40 | `3ICE | its on teh data editor |
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| 15:51.53 | MrRoy | oh |
| 15:51.54 | MrRoy | ok |
| 15:51.55 | MrRoy | thanks |
| 15:52.22 | rrowland | Weird man |
| 15:52.27 | rrowland | It's really powered |
| 15:52.31 | rrowland | But it shows the unpowered graphic |
| 15:53.19 | casperb | unit dies |
| 15:53.32 | casperb | can do it as an event |
| 15:53.48 | casperb | data editor is sexyer tho |
| 15:53.50 | Tehwildcard | hey rrowland |
| 15:53.57 | Tehwildcard | can you help me test something in a min |
| 15:54.02 | rrowland | Sure |
| 15:54.17 | Tehwildcard | need to republish it |
| 15:54.43 | Tehwildcard | kk hop on when you get a chance |
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| 15:58.50 | Adjudicator | Hey guys |
| 15:58.53 | Pandepic | hey |
| 15:59.23 | Adjudicator | can I get someone to check my status of player trigger? It's supposed to remove a player's units of that player never joined the game |
| 15:59.35 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.36 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.38 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.39 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.41 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.43 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.44 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.46 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.47 | Adjudicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.49 | Pandepic | Adjudicator |
| 15:59.52 | Pandepic | pastebin =P |
| 16:00.12 | Adjudicator | oops |
| 16:00.31 | Adjudicator | http://pastebin.com/z4ceGbqc |
| 16:00.33 | Pandepic | do the units just not die? |
| 16:00.37 | RickA | You have a bad condition |
| 16:01.02 | RickA | You should have no conditions, and in actions do a for each player loop |
| 16:01.58 | RickA | then put an if statement in that loop |
| 16:01.58 | Adjudicator | hmmm ok |
| 16:01.58 | Pandepic | yeah I don't think map initialization has a triggering player lol |
| 16:01.58 | Adjudicator | lol |
| 16:03.18 | Adjudicator | I only see for each player in player group |
| 16:03.39 | RickA | do that |
| 16:03.44 | RickA | and use all players as the group |
| 16:03.52 | Adjudicator | ok |
| 16:03.56 | Adjudicator | what about Player Variable? |
| 16:04.20 | RickA | huh? |
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| 16:04.34 | RickA | Picked Player |
| 16:05.36 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know how many game loops re there in a second? |
| 16:05.49 | RickA | elaborate |
| 16:05.52 | RickA | what's a game look |
| 16:05.54 | `3ICE | easily counted |
| 16:05.54 | RickA | loop |
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| 16:05.57 | `3ICE | i'd say 32 |
| 16:06.02 | RickA | 16 imo |
| 16:06.07 | `3ICE | but why dont you count it? |
| 16:06.07 | depthsofchaos | its for dynamic lighting |
| 16:06.12 | rrowland | There are 16 if you use real time |
| 16:06.21 | depthsofchaos | the light changes per game loop |
| 16:06.23 | rrowland | 16 * 1.333 = 23 if you use game time |
| 16:06.35 | rrowland | And by 1.333 |
| 16:06.35 | depthsofchaos | noraml speed is real time right? |
| 16:06.38 | rrowland | I mean some other number |
| 16:06.47 | `3ICE | :D |
| 16:06.50 | depthsofchaos | gona test thanks |
| 16:07.30 | rrowland | So I put in a wait 0.1 |
| 16:07.37 | rrowland | And it doesn't look unpowered anymore |
| 16:07.53 | rrowland | I guess I was morphing it before the powered behavior was applied |
| 16:09.08 | rrowland | So glad that's finally over |
| 16:09.32 | rrowland | Now to figure out how to tell the AI where to warp units in |
| 16:09.33 | rrowland | lol. |
| 16:10.29 | Pandepic | tell it to proxy pylon |
| 16:10.33 | Pandepic | and warp into their base |
| 16:10.50 | Pandepic | and make cannons in their base |
| 16:10.55 | rrowland | I might at that as a variation :P |
| 16:10.58 | rrowland | But probably not |
| 16:11.01 | rrowland | Since it's not solid play |
| 16:18.34 | `3ICE | By the way 3ice i love your maps! You and Blueberrywizard are my idles! |
| 16:18.37 | `3ICE | lol idle... |
| 16:19.07 | Twiner | anyone know how to make progress bars in dialogs? |
| 16:19.19 | `3ICE | best way is to use an image |
| 16:19.27 | `3ICE | set it's width to progress every sec |
| 16:25.11 | Twiner | ok |
| 16:28.57 | Clord | lol once in fortress fight... I called nuke.... command center went down when nuke appeared to go down XD |
| 16:29.05 | Clord | everything dissappeared from team expect nuke |
| 16:29.09 | Clord | boom! |
| 16:30.26 | Clord | that player lost some offensive power in that blast against other one |
| 16:33.19 | s4ikD | re |
| 16:33.27 | s4ikD | btw 3ICE thx a lot for the tut |
| 16:33.29 | s4ikD | rly helped |
| 16:33.32 | s4ikD | its working now |
| 16:33.32 | `3ICE | np |
| 16:33.42 | s4ikD | seems to be terribly buggy though :D |
| 16:33.49 | `3ICE | Thank OneTwo when you get the chance :) |
| 16:34.00 | s4ikD | already pm'd him <3 :) |
| 16:34.42 | Kerotan | Anyone know how to fix this 'Document Dependency file header blah blah' when trying to publish? :s |
| 16:35.03 | Flop | is there anyway to select an unselectable building in-game? |
| 16:35.06 | Flop | like a chat command |
| 16:35.14 | Flop | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.15 | `3ICE | triggers can select anything |
| 16:35.21 | Flop | in the game tho |
| 16:35.32 | `3ICE | no |
| 16:35.43 | Flop | hrmm |
| 16:35.46 | Flop | this could be bad |
| 16:39.05 | Reactorex | waves. |
| 16:39.07 | Reactorex | Hi. :P |
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| 16:39.30 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Bifuu] by ChanServ |
| 16:39.59 | AsaPhelps | Good evening |
| 16:40.11 | Skizot | and Bifuu said "but i love cocks..." |
| 16:40.14 | Skizot | OH HEY Bifuu |
| 16:40.20 | Reactorex | `3ICE, have you released any maps on to BNet 2.0? |
| 16:40.25 | `3ICE | no |
| 16:40.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Curt` (~DorkeyDea@adsl-75-10-132-211.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:40.31 | `3ICE | only after the game comes out |
| 16:40.41 | Skizot | i published mine. |
| 16:40.48 | casperb | nah publishing is open now |
| 16:40.49 | Skizot | but apparently it now has a CRAZY crash |
| 16:40.51 | Reactorex | I want to know!- what kind of maps are you making? :O |
| 16:40.55 | `3ICE | Skizot's map is awesome, everyone should try it |
| 16:41.12 | AsaPhelps | Apparently people don't like my map anymore |
| 16:41.21 | AsaPhelps | Or maybe they never did |
| 16:41.26 | Reactorex | Ooh. |
| 16:41.27 | Reactorex | Hey. |
| 16:41.30 | `3ICE | fame never lasts long |
| 16:41.32 | Reactorex | I manage to make a glowy, golden ultralisk. |
| 16:41.35 | Reactorex | It's cool. XD |
| 16:41.41 | Reactorex | It looks like it came out of D3... |
| 16:41.42 | AsaPhelps | Actually its bugged, again |
| 16:41.45 | AsaPhelps | The lobby doesn't load |
| 16:41.51 | AsaPhelps | What the hell causes this :/ |
| 16:42.00 | `3ICE | corrrrrupt header 2.0 :) |
| 16:42.11 | AsaPhelps | Fix it for me and I'll reward you |
| 16:42.13 | Reactorex | AsaPhelps, what's the map name? |
| 16:42.28 | AsaPhelps | Missile Command v.6f |
| 16:42.31 | AsaPhelps | its got white letters |
| 16:42.35 | AsaPhelps | I knew I should've stuck to red |
| 16:42.47 | AsaPhelps | Oh I'm so making it red white and blue for memorial day |
| 16:43.11 | AsaPhelps | Its at the bottom reactor, 2 games/hour |
| 16:43.22 | Reactorex | Aha. |
| 16:43.26 | Skizot | ice |
| 16:43.28 | Reactorex | You didn't use an </s> on the endo f the map name? |
| 16:43.32 | `3ICE | ice reporting. |
| 16:43.33 | Skizot | i'm publishing a new version right now. |
| 16:43.43 | Reactorex | <s val="AlertItem">Missile Command v.6F |
| 16:43.47 | Skizot | where mutas and hydras have ACTUAL projectiles. |
| 16:43.53 | `3ICE | i know |
| 16:43.55 | Flop | jesus u dont realize how broken ur map is until its at front page of popularity |
| 16:43.55 | Skizot | instead f the normal sc2 insta attacks |
| 16:43.56 | Reactorex | Close the tag and then try. |
| 16:44.16 | Flop | idk how to even fix some of this |
| 16:44.27 | AsaPhelps | Well it works fine the first few hours reactor |
| 16:44.42 | Skizot | okay EVERYONE GO TRY MY MAP |
| 16:44.48 | Reactorex | It's still bad that you don't have the </s> at the end :P |
| 16:44.50 | Skizot | search for "Terran" |
| 16:44.53 | vjeux | Skizot: us or eu ? |
| 16:44.55 | AsaPhelps | search? |
| 16:44.57 | Skizot | US :( |
| 16:44.58 | Flop | for some reason whenever i start a match with my map and open to public like 5 computer plays automatically join the lobby and wont leave, however in the game they arent there, and at the end u see them with 0 score |
| 16:45.01 | Flop | wut do |
| 16:45.08 | Skizot | how do i publish to EU? |
| 16:45.10 | vjeux | are you hosting a game? |
| 16:45.12 | vjeux | i'm coming! |
| 16:45.24 | `3ICE | Skizot ask a friend |
| 16:45.30 | Skizot | hey vjeux |
| 16:45.32 | Skizot | :D |
| 16:45.45 | casperb | Can't even connect on EU :P |
| 16:45.50 | vjeux | :p |
| 16:45.52 | MrRoy | hey guys |
| 16:45.56 | vjeux | give me your map i'll host it |
| 16:45.57 | MrRoy | I'm looking for people to test my map |
| 16:45.59 | Skizot | you want to publish it for me? |
| 16:46.00 | vjeux | upload it |
| 16:46.08 | Skizot | can you localize it too? |
| 16:46.11 | vjeux | yup |
| 16:46.14 | Skizot | okay |
| 16:46.27 | Skizot | let me add one thing.. |
| 16:46.35 | `3ICE | change the editor settigns from us-beta.battle.net to eu-beta.battle.net and it might just work. |
| 16:46.47 | `3ICE | or not :) |
| 16:46.48 | `3ICE | nvm |
| 16:46.51 | vjeux | why not? |
| 16:46.52 | `3ICE | need account there :/ |
| 16:46.55 | vjeux | yeah :p |
| 16:47.38 | Reactorex | So my battle.net account is only on the US battle.net? |
| 16:47.43 | Skizot | vjeux can i get a sc2mapster email addy? |
| 16:47.44 | vjeux | ues |
| 16:47.44 | `3ICE | yep :s |
| 16:47.45 | Skizot | :D |
| 16:47.52 | Reactorex | That's stupid. |
| 16:47.53 | `3ICE | we are totally chained to one realm |
| 16:48.11 | `3ICE | almost as bad as "Do you really want chatrooms?" |
| 16:48.13 | Reactorex | My Battle.net account I made on battle.net is only on one realm, then. |
| 16:48.13 | vjeux | Skizot: have to ask ckknigh or Kaelte for that |
| 16:48.36 | Skizot | shit. |
| 16:48.49 | `3ICE | my email addy pwns all: 3ice@3ice.hu |
| 16:49.04 | `3ICE | costs pretty cheat and comes with webspace :) |
| 16:49.07 | `3ICE | cheap* |
| 16:49.34 | vjeux | .hu ... ugly ! :p |
| 16:49.38 | Skizot | well im not sure i wanna put my MAIN email there. |
| 16:49.41 | `3ICE | its my nationality-.- |
| 16:49.42 | vjeux | vjeux@vjeux.com >> * |
| 16:50.16 | Skizot | and it'd be nice to have sc2 mapster on there ya know? |
| 16:50.17 | `3ICE | Starcraft II has been a beta for a month and I've been actively working on the map making features. The Galaxy Map Editor has not been released yet however it is already possible to do edit the map files. |
| 16:50.20 | `3ICE | lol old blogpost is old |
| 16:50.22 | Reactorex | Quick! Everyone, 3ice.hu, there's a forum, we can do luvin spams? |
| 16:50.37 | `3ICE | you are welcome to try my antispam scripts Reactorex |
| 16:50.49 | Reactorex | >:D |
| 16:51.09 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/true-colors-brood-war-mission-re/. True Colors (Brood War mission remake). Wunterwaffen (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 16:51.40 | vjeux | when i log us sc2 it tells me my drivers are out of date :( |
| 16:51.45 | vjeux | but in eu it's ok |
| 16:51.52 | Reactorex | It tells me that in US, too. |
| 16:52.20 | `3ICE | us is always ahead of eu time-wise by a few hours |
| 16:52.20 | vjeux | lol @ the Tank def - Jacked description in the us :p |
| 16:52.30 | `3ICE | oh wait no its the other way around |
| 16:52.35 | `3ICE | us is lagging behind eu time-wise |
| 16:53.26 | Skizot | okay i forget how to locaize maps.. lol |
| 16:53.41 | `3ICE | copy the enUS folder out of the map |
| 16:53.42 | `3ICE | rename it |
| 16:53.44 | `3ICE | copy it back in |
| 16:53.53 | `3ICE | theres a lsit of all the locales somewhere in an xml file |
| 16:54.57 | Skizot | does that localizer thing work okay? |
| 16:55.38 | Skizot | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-localizer/ |
| 16:55.50 | `3ICE | real men do it manually... |
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| 16:55.57 | `3ICE | yeah it prolly works fine |
| 16:56.22 | Hati | Skizot: yea |
| 16:56.33 | Hati | its just not compressing |
| 16:56.42 | Hati | so open up with Editor after localized |
| 16:56.45 | Hati | and it will be compressed |
| 16:57.02 | Hati | and SC2Components data must be default :P |
| 16:57.31 | AsaPhelps | Anyone on US want to help me test my map |
| 16:57.34 | AsaPhelps | Reactor? D: |
| 16:57.44 | MrRoy | asa |
| 16:57.50 | MrRoy | I'll help you if you help me test mine after :D |
| 16:58.02 | AsaPhelps | sure |
| 16:58.11 | MrRoy | ok |
| 16:58.28 | MrRoy | so |
| 16:58.30 | MrRoy | what do i do lol |
| 16:59.14 | RickA | Holy crap |
| 16:59.18 | RickA | This has never happened before |
| 16:59.29 | RickA | I created a set of triggers and they all worked the first time |
| 16:59.43 | `3ICE | quick! press undo |
| 17:00.04 | RickA | Okay, I lied. I never intialized a text tag, but besides that it seems to work perfectly. |
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| 17:01.02 | RickA | Wait.... now that means I'm out of abilities to code again :( |
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| 17:01.22 | AsaPhelps | RickA are you US? |
| 17:01.23 | Skizot | ice you sure about that bnet addy? |
| 17:01.25 | RickA | Yes |
| 17:01.29 | `3ICE | ofc not |
| 17:01.43 | `3ICE | why do you need bnet addy? |
| 17:01.48 | Skizot | for eu? |
| 17:01.50 | `3ICE | cant use the eu beta on us anyway |
| 17:01.57 | Skizot | i has an eu acct. |
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| 17:02.16 | Vandari | don't you have to have both clients installed though? |
| 17:02.20 | Skizot | no? |
| 17:02.23 | `3ICE | nah |
| 17:02.24 | Skizot | not to publish. |
| 17:02.26 | AsaPhelps | My map is Missile Command .6f Ricka |
| 17:02.30 | Vandari | oh |
| 17:02.34 | `3ICE | you can jsut change the potion in the editor and magic happens |
| 17:02.42 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mittsies (Mittsies@66.133.220.142) |
| 17:02.42 | `3ICE | option* |
| 17:02.46 | RickA | And? |
| 17:02.48 | Skizot | but i need the correct bnet addy to publish it. |
| 17:02.56 | Coolflip | wtf |
| 17:03.02 | Coolflip | my guy runs around while shooting his gun |
| 17:03.03 | `3ICE | eu-beta.logon.battle.net |
| 17:03.04 | Coolflip | -_- |
| 17:03.08 | `3ICE | and us-beta.logon.battle.net |
| 17:03.11 | Skizot | eu-beta.battle.net |
| 17:03.15 | `3ICE | are the two possibilities |
| 17:03.16 | Mittsies | How do I set up static player teams? |
| 17:03.42 | Vandari | Does anyone know if the creator of Burbenog TD from WC3 is going to make that one for SC2? |
| 17:03.55 | `3ICE | email him |
| 17:03.58 | `3ICE | and ask :) |
| 17:04.02 | Mittsies | Vandari if you tell me how to make teams |
| 17:04.04 | Mittsies | I will |
| 17:04.06 | Vandari | tried, email was returned |
| 17:04.13 | Flop | alright so in the editor under game variants, if i have 7 players in my map under player properties, but i want only 6 playable, and the seventh is just a dummy zerg run by triggers, do i make 7 slots and make the seventh for the zerg computer controlled or do i just only make 6 slots |
| 17:04.15 | Skizot | publishing to EU now. |
| 17:04.17 | Mittsies | because when I try to set up teams in SC2 it just doesn't do SHIT |
| 17:04.51 | `3ICE | guys dont do teams/game variants because it is still broken |
| 17:04.53 | MrRoy | AsaPhelps when will you test your map? |
| 17:05.10 | s4ikD | how can i make sure that a unit cant walk through a building? is that the footprints again? |
| 17:05.17 | AsaPhelps | Sorry rick wrong person |
| 17:05.19 | AsaPhelps | Find my map Roy |
| 17:05.23 | MrRoy | ok |
| 17:05.47 | Flop | under game variants what does (Game) Premade Game mean? |
| 17:05.50 | Flop | do i want that enabled? |
| 17:05.59 | Coolflip | wtf |
| 17:06.09 | Coolflip | every weapon i create fires at the same rate |
| 17:06.13 | Coolflip | i cant speed them up |
| 17:06.14 | `3ICE | dont.change.game.variants beyond the basics, it is broken atm |
| 17:06.26 | Flop | those.are.the.basics. |
| 17:06.34 | `3ICE | watch the game publishing tutorial by OneTwo on youtube |
| 17:06.50 | Kerotan | Anyone know how to fix the Document Dependency error when publishing? |
| 17:06.50 | Flop | i asked like 10 times how else i could fix my game-breaking issues that the 7th most popular map atm has, and no one helped |
| 17:06.53 | Flop | so im resorting to this |
| 17:07.10 | s4ikD | how can i make sure that a unit cant walk through a building? is that the footprints again? flags? something on the building model? |
| 17:07.20 | Skizot | OKAY EU PEOPLE |
| 17:07.25 | Skizot | go play terran conflict! |
| 17:07.31 | Coolflip | GOGO |
| 17:07.45 | Coolflip | can someone help me with weapons? |
| 17:07.46 | `3ICE | gogo! Terrain Conflict to the #1 spot! |
| 17:07.47 | Skizot | for the record though |
| 17:07.50 | `3ICE | -i |
| 17:07.55 | Skizot | your updates will be ALOT slower than US. |
| 17:08.03 | Skizot | sorry :( |
| 17:08.05 | `3ICE | a lot is two words. |
| 17:08.21 | Coolflip | and 3ice is thrice |
| 17:08.41 | rrowland | He's once, twice, thrice a lady |
| 17:08.54 | rrowland | Or is it woman? |
| 17:08.55 | `3ICE | He does a lady thrice |
| 17:09.03 | `3ICE | a day |
| 17:09.10 | rrowland | No it's lady |
| 17:09.11 | rrowland | I was right |
| 17:09.31 | Coolflip | anyways, can someoneone halp me fix ma weapons? |
| 17:10.14 | RickA | What's the problem? |
| 17:10.30 | Mittsies | so teams are flat-out broken. Yeah? |
| 17:10.32 | s4ikD | nyone? |
| 17:10.42 | Coolflip | uh |
| 17:10.44 | Coolflip | they fire really slow |
| 17:10.50 | `3ICE | just keep repeating the question every 5min till you get an answer |
| 17:10.51 | Coolflip | ive edited period, backswing, random delay |
| 17:11.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rommsteinz (~3e402799@gateway/web/freenode/x-itzgzapztllvpskp) |
| 17:11.28 | Rommsteinz | Hey, does someone know how to have more than 3 cliff levels ? :'{ |
| 17:11.29 | s4ikD | srsly? |
| 17:11.34 | Coolflip | NO |
| 17:11.40 | RickA | Problem I always had was making sure the unit has the right weapon |
| 17:11.51 | Coolflip | its got to be |
| 17:12.05 | `3ICE | Rommsteinz I have edigted game data xml files to allow for more cliff levels and guess what, the editor reverted my changes :/ |
| 17:12.09 | Coolflip | I made a weapon called laser rifle, based it off of battlecruiser ATS |
| 17:12.10 | Flop | lol 3ICE i just watched onetwo's video and his cursor like stopped on my map in the list for like 10 seconds |
| 17:12.12 | Flop | i feel special |
| 17:12.23 | `3ICE | yeah |
| 17:12.27 | `3ICE | i saw that too |
| 17:12.35 | Rommsteinz | `3ICE, WTF, does Blizzard really want to make us become crazy ? T_T |
| 17:12.39 | Flop | and u didnt tell me!?!? |
| 17:12.41 | Flop | >:[ |
| 17:12.42 | `3ICE | yep |
| 17:12.42 | s4ikD | how can i make sure that a unit cant walk through a building? is that the footprints again? flags? something on the building model? |
| 17:12.54 | Coolflip | footprints |
| 17:13.10 | Coolflip | make it dissapear |
| 17:13.15 | Coolflip | bye bye |
| 17:13.28 | s4ikD | ? |
| 17:13.30 | Coolflip | ricka, are you on mirc? |
| 17:13.35 | RickA | No |
| 17:13.38 | Coolflip | meh |
| 17:13.43 | RickA | Why does it matter? |
| 17:13.44 | `3ICE | All the cool kids use mIRC. |
| 17:13.50 | Coolflip | i was going to send you my map |
| 17:13.55 | Coolflip | but i cant if your on the webchat one |
| 17:13.59 | `3ICE | use a file sharing website |
| 17:13.59 | s4ikD | so u're sayin that footprints make my building go byebye ? |
| 17:14.02 | `3ICE | with a password |
| 17:14.03 | s4ikD | lol |
| 17:14.10 | RickA | I was until a few days ago, but my subscription ran out about 423 days ago |
| 17:14.17 | RickA | And it finally decided to kick me off. |
| 17:14.20 | `3ICE | i never subscribed. |
| 17:14.30 | RickA | Neither did I, so it kicked me off. |
| 17:14.33 | Coolflip | just wait like 10 seconds while it says your subscription has ended |
| 17:14.35 | Coolflip | than hit continue |
| 17:14.40 | RickA | It did |
| 17:14.44 | `3ICE | 6.2 has an infinite regcode crack |
| 17:14.45 | RickA | For about 423 days |
| 17:14.52 | RickA | And then it outright shut me out |
| 17:14.54 | Coolflip | mine says it to ricka |
| 17:15.14 | `3ICE | i always hated that screen to i got the infinite registered crack. |
| 17:15.20 | RickA | Seems I can still send files to you |
| 17:15.26 | Coolflip | uhhh |
| 17:15.26 | RickA | Why wouldn't I be able to receive? |
| 17:15.31 | `3ICE | most irc clients support DCC |
| 17:15.34 | Coolflip | who just sent somthing to me? |
| 17:15.41 | Coolflip | because i think i acc just denied it |
| 17:15.45 | RickA | I did |
| 17:15.58 | Coolflip | fine |
| 17:15.59 | RickA | But the point wasn't for you to receive it, just show that I can still do file transfers |
| 17:16.03 | Coolflip | ill send you my map |
| 17:16.06 | RickA | Cool |
| 17:17.56 | s4ikD | so.. if it is with footprints.. does nyone know what flags i have to set? cause i think i tried all of em by now.. |
| 17:17.57 | Coolflip | accept it >:( |
| 17:17.57 | RickA | Connection timed out |
| 17:18.01 | Coolflip | psh |
| 17:18.05 | RickA | Just put it on mediafire |
| 17:18.08 | RickA | and I'll dl it |
| 17:18.09 | Coolflip | fine |
| 17:18.13 | `3ICE | most irc clients have auto decline DCC |
| 17:18.17 | `3ICE | you have to enable it first |
| 17:18.50 | `3ICE | when i first got a file through DCC it told me i got a file and it was automatically denied |
| 17:19.03 | `3ICE | go to hell irc -.- then i changed the dcc settings and all is well |
| 17:19.13 | Coolflip | http://www.mediafire.com/?yo2zc1tnd2m |
| 17:19.25 | RickA | Cool. I'm going to publish the hell out of this |
| 17:19.30 | Coolflip | lol |
| 17:20.25 | RickA | I wouldn't want to publish a broken map, so which attack doesn't work? |
| 17:20.43 | Coolflip | its called like battlecruiser ag - laser rifle |
| 17:20.54 | Coolflip | if you test the game, its the item on the ground with a red circle as the model |
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| 17:21.03 | Coolflip | it equips the laser rifle weapon |
| 17:21.27 | Coolflip | ive remade that item like 30 times, different weapons every time, still like 1.5 second attack time |
| 17:21.56 | Coolflip | and i jsut said time 3 times in one sentence, and two in the next o.O |
| 17:22.24 | Skizot | oh that's easy to fix |
| 17:22.33 | Skizot | and if you paypal me $5 US i'll tell you how. |
| 17:22.36 | Coolflip | lol |
| 17:22.44 | Coolflip | pays you 5 dolla |
| 17:23.19 | Skizot | what is it based on. |
| 17:23.22 | Skizot | the ats? |
| 17:23.45 | Coolflip | yes |
| 17:23.52 | Skizot | FieldBattlecruiser AG - ATS Laser Battery |
| 17:23.52 | Skizot | Stats - Random Delay Maximum0.1875 |
| 17:23.55 | Skizot | that be it. |
| 17:24.04 | Skizot | FieldBattlecruiser AG - ATS Laser Battery |
| 17:24.04 | Skizot | Stats - Random Delay Maximum0.1875 |
| 17:24.04 | Skizot | Stats - Random Delay Minimum-0.0625 |
| 17:24.10 | Coolflip | well that doesnt explain the 1.5 second attack time |
| 17:24.10 | Skizot | cheng the second to 0 |
| 17:24.26 | Coolflip | with a .3 period |
| 17:24.27 | Skizot | read it like the dot is one number tot h right |
| 17:24.30 | Skizot | it's weird |
| 17:24.39 | Coolflip | oh god |
| 17:24.47 | Coolflip | for delay minimum or both? |
| 17:24.58 | Skizot | set minimu to 0 |
| 17:25.04 | Skizot | and maximu to what you want. |
| 17:25.11 | Skizot | just put the . one number to the right |
| 17:25.16 | Vandari | Is there a way to load a map to battlenet to test with a friend and not make it public? |
| 17:25.20 | Skizot | so 1.8 second = .18 |
| 17:25.55 | Skizot | trust me it's confusing as fuck. |
| 17:26.14 | Coolflip | ok, well now this makes sense |
| 17:26.14 | Skizot | also the backswing. |
| 17:26.15 | Coolflip | lol |
| 17:26.20 | Coolflip | yae i took that out |
| 17:26.26 | Skizot | FieldBattlecruiser AG - ATS Laser Battery |
| 17:26.26 | Skizot | Stats - Backswing0.5000 |
| 17:26.27 | Coolflip | i just didnt know about the x10 part |
| 17:26.29 | Skizot | yeah 0 that |
| 17:26.54 | Coolflip | lets see how long ricka screws around until he cant figure it out either |
| 17:27.01 | Coolflip | than he comes in here and realised its already fixed |
| 17:27.02 | Coolflip | lol |
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| 17:27.25 | Skizot | try it out just to make sure |
| 17:27.31 | Skizot | that's the best i've gotten at it. |
| 17:27.39 | Skizot | made a thor with a 0,0 |
| 17:27.46 | Skizot | thing is a MACHINEGUN OF PAIN. |
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| 17:28.52 | Cromalic | hey |
| 17:29.03 | Cromalic | i made a custom ability, effect instant |
| 17:29.15 | Cromalic | and i want to use a trigger to make the unit use the ability |
| 17:29.35 | Skizot | okay? |
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| 17:29.40 | Skizot | issue order to the unit? |
| 17:29.43 | Cromalic | however, using the issue order trigger, i can't find my ability in the 'ability command' list |
| 17:29.47 | RickA | Doin my best |
| 17:29.52 | Coolflip | lol |
| 17:29.56 | Coolflip | i called it |
| 17:29.57 | Skizot | does you command have a target or no? |
| 17:29.58 | Coolflip | -_- |
| 17:30.01 | Coolflip | its fixed already ricka |
| 17:30.02 | Cromalic | no target |
| 17:30.06 | Cromalic | effect - instant |
| 17:30.07 | Coolflip | aparently theres a bug in the editor |
| 17:30.20 | Skizot | oh... it's an EFFECT |
| 17:30.22 | Coolflip | random delay = random delay x10 |
| 17:30.25 | Skizot | you can't call an effect |
| 17:30.28 | Cromalic | no |
| 17:30.31 | Cromalic | it's not an effect |
| 17:30.40 | Skizot | ... |
| 17:30.41 | Coolflip | the ability issues the effect |
| 17:30.45 | Cromalic | it's an ability |
| 17:30.52 | Cromalic | the type of the ability = effect insant |
| 17:30.54 | Cromalic | instant* |
| 17:30.54 | Coolflip | everything the ability does is done by the effect |
| 17:31.23 | Cromalic | but how do i use a trigger to make the unit use it? i can't find the ability in the 'command ability - no target' |
| 17:31.26 | Cromalic | it's simply not there |
| 17:31.28 | Cromalic | :( |
| 17:31.59 | Reactorex | What are the specifics to your ability? |
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| 17:32.17 | Cromalic | what specifics do you mean? |
| 17:32.41 | Reactorex | Anything that may possibly change its listing. |
| 17:33.01 | Cromalic | well |
| 17:33.09 | Cromalic | it's an ability - effect instant |
| 17:33.11 | Cromalic | so no target |
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| 17:33.51 | Reactorex | And you already changed the filter to "Effect - Instant" for the list? |
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| 17:34.24 | Cromalic | yes |
| 17:34.33 | Cromalic | i can find all the effect - instant abilities there |
| 17:34.40 | Cromalic | such as Use Stimpack etc |
| 17:34.43 | Cromalic | but not mine |
| 17:35.03 | Cromalic | is there a specific ID of the ability which it uses to appear in the list? |
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| 17:36.03 | Reactorex | What are your editor categories for it? |
| 17:36.17 | Insaneelite | Anybody at all know how to make units go after the closest enemy unit? I've tried messing with scan range, revealing the map, and various triggers, but nothing works. |
| 17:36.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster cronos (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net) |
| 17:37.18 | AsaPhelps | Whats your map roy? |
| 17:37.25 | MrRoy | well |
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| 17:37.35 | MrRoy | it's not completly dont (it's a defense but it only has 2 waves |
| 17:37.49 | MrRoy | and it's not yet published, and for an unknown reason I can't publish |
| 17:37.58 | MrRoy | like when I try to login it says connection lost |
| 17:38.07 | AsaPhelps | did yo uchange the login to us- etc etc |
| 17:38.21 | MrRoy | umm |
| 17:38.24 | s4ikD | re |
| 17:38.26 | `3ICE | us-beta.logon.battle.net |
| 17:38.29 | MrRoy | in preferences? |
| 17:38.32 | MrRoy | host? |
| 17:38.55 | AsaPhelps | Something like that |
| 17:39.18 | MrRoy | ok it works |
| 17:39.22 | MrRoy | imma publish it |
| 17:39.32 | Cromalic | Reactorex: it's set to none |
| 17:39.33 | Cromalic | hmmm |
| 17:39.36 | Cromalic | maybe that's the problem |
| 17:40.22 | MrRoy | do I lock for editing? |
| 17:40.38 | `3ICE | locked maps can't be published, bug |
| 17:40.39 | Twiner | anyone played around with attack waves? |
| 17:40.44 | MrRoy | oh |
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| 17:41.07 | Twiner | well thats stupid |
| 17:41.10 | `3ICE | if you need map protection use an mpq extractor to delete triggers |
| 17:41.27 | Cromalic | aaaah |
| 17:41.32 | Twiner | delete the triggers? |
| 17:41.36 | wOlfLinG | Hi ppl :). Anyone know any good tutorials for mapmaking? Im a bit of a n00b xD |
| 17:41.36 | `3ICE | yep |
| 17:41.36 | Twiner | wont that break it? |
| 17:41.37 | MrRoy | AsaPhelps, the map name is "Individual Cannon D v0.1A" |
| 17:41.42 | `3ICE | make sure you have a backup though :) |
| 17:41.50 | Flop | how do i make an event "when player hits key" |
| 17:41.58 | `3ICE | search for KEY |
| 17:42.02 | Flop | i did |
| 17:42.04 | Flop | no luck |
| 17:42.07 | `3ICE | and its not there? |
| 17:42.12 | `3ICE | try PRESSES |
| 17:42.31 | Flop | thanks 3ice, anyone else |
| 17:42.37 | s4ikD | does nyone know how i can prevent units from walking through buildings? |
| 17:43.07 | wOlfLinG | No tutorials? :( |
| 17:43.15 | Flop | i dont think its an actual event |
| 17:43.18 | Flop | i need to trick it somehow |
| 17:43.27 | `3ICE | it is an actual event |
| 17:43.38 | Flop | found it |
| 17:44.41 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.44 | `3ICE | it has key in it |
| 17:44.56 | MrRoy | Anyone on US wanna help me test my map? |
| 17:44.57 | `3ICE | hmm no it doesnt |
| 17:44.57 | Flop | yea i was searching in actions not events lol |
| 17:45.02 | `3ICE | lol |
| 17:45.05 | depthsofchaos | wow im damn anoyed how 1 person can block your map from being played |
| 17:45.10 | depthsofchaos | he just host and does nothing |
| 17:45.20 | Flop | host ur own game? |
| 17:45.31 | depthsofchaos | people will be prioritized to his |
| 17:45.40 | `3ICE | i think people jsut dont join |
| 17:45.55 | depthsofchaos | what? |
| 17:46.11 | `3ICE | my weak attempt at sarcasm, just ignore it |
| 17:46.11 | MrRoy | Anyone wanna test my map? On US |
| 17:46.21 | wOlfLinG | If 1 person hosts and doesnt start, when the map is full, people will join other games |
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| 17:47.24 | depthsofchaos | yeah but then they leave, and the new people will join that game again |
| 17:47.31 | depthsofchaos | and they other games host will just leave |
| 17:47.35 | depthsofchaos | the* |
| 17:47.42 | MrRoy | C'mon, anyone wanna test my map? |
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| 17:47.54 | depthsofchaos | so unless its so popular it gets filled in 1 second |
| 17:47.57 | depthsofchaos | not much chance |
| 17:47.59 | RickA | What map |
| 17:48.16 | MrRoy | an individual cannon defense |
| 17:48.36 | MrRoy | it's called "Individual Cannon Defense v0.1A" |
| 17:48.42 | Flop | if i convert boolean to integer... |
| 17:48.43 | RickA | If its individual you don't need other testers |
| 17:48.46 | Flop | is true 1 or 0, or 2 |
| 17:48.53 | RickA | I would guess 1 |
| 17:49.00 | Flop | and false is 0? |
| 17:49.02 | Flop | or 2 |
| 17:49.06 | MrRoy | yeah, but I want to see if it's done correctly for others too |
| 17:49.09 | MrRoy | I can only test for player 1 |
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| 17:49.33 | wOlfLinG | Btw, im making a kinda mix between DotA and TD. I need ideas for buildings. |
| 17:50.31 | Flop | cafe |
| 17:50.33 | Flop | libray |
| 17:50.38 | Flop | town hall |
| 17:50.39 | Flop | prison |
| 17:50.44 | Flop | bank |
| 17:50.45 | `3ICE | i dream about mapmaking, if i run out of ideas i jsut go to sleep or daydream for an hour |
| 17:51.02 | Flop | yo 3ICE if i convert boolean to integer what does each value equal |
| 17:51.04 | wOlfLinG | ok, how about building that are cool and can have attacks? xD |
| 17:51.13 | `3ICE | 1 is true 0 is false |
| 17:51.18 | Flop | im trying to make a system where players can vote to skip intro, but im not doing very well |
| 17:51.35 | RickA | flop: just print it out to see what happens |
| 17:51.45 | Flop | 2 much work |
| 17:51.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Coolflip (~coolflips@c-71-56-255-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 17:51.52 | `3ICE | and if ya convert int to bool every int that isnt 0 converts to true, so 233472153 is true, 6 is true, 128 is true, 65536 is true etc |
| 17:52.06 | RickA | wolf, make a tower that shoots a beam onto allied units to buff them |
| 17:52.12 | wOlfLinG | Try making something like 'If ESC is pressed, player 1 skip intro = true' (i havnt played around with triggers yet though) |
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| 17:52.28 | RickA | Like, if you stick near the tower you get a +20hp buff for 15 seconds |
| 17:52.38 | RickA | But, it has to target you |
| 17:52.39 | wOlfLinG | Good idea |
| 17:52.58 | wOlfLinG | Im thinking of making a 'Training bunker' Which spawns a unit every X seconds |
| 17:53.49 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, i have dinner now. Ill have a think whilst eating and continue with it in a few mins :) /afk |
| 17:54.20 | DPS|prodiG | hey, does anyone know of a guide/tutorial for game variants? i have a 1v1 and a 2v2 game variant on my map, but i can't click the "open to public" button in-game (it's a melee map) |
| 17:54.22 | Insaneelite | No one has any idea on how to make units attack the closest enemy unit to them? I've tried modifying scan range, gave the unit's player view of the entire map, and various triggers, but nothing works |
| 17:55.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster AsaPhelps (~asaphelps@pool-151-203-255-77.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:55.12 | AsaPhelps | Roy you still there? |
| 17:55.29 | MrRoy | yes |
| 17:56.43 | Flop | any way to allow ppl to see their mouse in cinematic mode? |
| 17:57.01 | `3ICE | don't turn it on? |
| 17:57.12 | Flop | ugh this is so confusing |
| 17:57.36 | Flop | i have like a cinematic intro that lasts 30 seconds, and the entire time theres text messages popping up explaining the game |
| 17:57.47 | Flop | i just want to create a voting system so ppl can choose to skip that |
| 17:57.50 | Flop | and i cant figure out how |
| 17:58.00 | `3ICE | vote before cinematic starts? |
| 17:58.04 | `3ICE | soo easy :P |
| 17:58.14 | Flop | yea i guess |
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| 17:58.47 | Flop | now i just need to figure out how to get the voting workintg |
| 17:59.07 | TheLaughingMan | Woot! |
| 18:01.04 | Alpha_vst | sup sexy people |
| 18:01.25 | TheLaughingMan | I got my AI Framework |
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| 18:02.17 | Alpha_vst | sweet |
| 18:02.20 | Coolflip | nice |
| 18:02.39 | Alpha_vst | watch my new generator video lol :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArkNgnhQhkQ |
| 18:03.20 | TheLaughingMan | Now I just have to fill in the Data |
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| 18:04.06 | Alpha_vst | I need feed back on my abient music lol |
| 18:04.15 | Khono | Your ambient music kicks ass! |
| 18:04.16 | Ignorance | sup guys |
| 18:04.28 | MrRoy | AsaPhelps |
| 18:04.34 | Twiner | Alpha_vst: you should wall off the edge of maps, unless there is wrap arond |
| 18:04.56 | AsaPhelps | do you still need help testing roy? |
| 18:05.16 | MrRoy | yeah |
| 18:05.24 | MrRoy | I did some modifications but imma publish it in a sec |
| 18:06.20 | MrRoy | ok it's not, it's named "Individual Cannon Defense 0.2A" |
| 18:06.24 | MrRoy | I'll host the game in a sec |
| 18:07.26 | Flop | alright im having a problem. in my "do u want to skip the tutorial" thing, ppl can vote unlimited times |
| 18:07.40 | Flop | how can i stop this |
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| 18:08.14 | `3ICE | hide the dialog once the have voted |
| 18:08.23 | MrRoy | AsaPhelps do you see it6 |
| 18:08.24 | `3ICE | or store their vote in a variable instead of counting clicks |
| 18:08.38 | Flop | how do i hide the dialog? |
| 18:08.44 | Flop | without hiding it for all players |
| 18:08.48 | `3ICE | dialog - hide |
| 18:08.54 | `3ICE | for player group |
| 18:08.59 | `3ICE | convert player to player group |
| 18:09.23 | `3ICE | you could figure this out on your own if you tried -.- |
| 18:09.26 | Cromalic | is Vitality = Life + Shields ? |
| 18:09.32 | Flop | i did try |
| 18:09.36 | Flop | i still dont g et it |
| 18:09.37 | Flop | lol |
| 18:10.44 | AsaPhelps | nope |
| 18:10.50 | Alpha_vst | flop disable the dialog for the player after they vote |
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| 18:11.01 | Flop | yes alpha but how do i do that |
| 18:11.06 | `3ICE | he is already hiding it |
| 18:11.08 | MrRoy | well |
| 18:11.15 | MrRoy | tell me your battle net adress ill add you to friends and invite you |
| 18:11.33 | `3ICE | yeah also tell him your email, your aim and your social security number |
| 18:11.37 | `3ICE | or esle he can't add you |
| 18:11.42 | `3ICE | ./sarcasm |
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| 18:11.48 | depthsofchaos | rofl this guy just host m map for hours and no one can play it hurray |
| 18:11.49 | Martul | hi.... |
| 18:11.53 | MrRoy | lol |
| 18:11.55 | `3ICE | oh no... |
| 18:12.15 | Martul | :( |
| 18:12.20 | AsaPhelps | try making the game and playing then leaving roy |
| 18:12.26 | Martul | is still :( |
| 18:12.26 | Flop | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.54 | `3ICE | your message was cut off at the second if |
| 18:13.13 | Flop | u can figure it out |
| 18:13.13 | Alpha_vst | post a screenshot |
| 18:13.18 | Flop | then modify no votes +1 |
| 18:13.48 | Flop | its just, if they hit yes, modify variable yes votes +1, if they hit no, modify variable no votes +1, at the end of the vote, if yes votes>no votes then do |
| 18:14.03 | Flop | i just need a way to make sure ppl dont keep constantly clicking an option making the variable keep rising |
| 18:14.17 | `3ICE | and we told you how to do it |
| 18:14.17 | MrRoy | I did Asa |
| 18:14.27 | `3ICE | we gave you three solutions |
| 18:15.07 | `3ICE | hide the dialog, count player votes not clicks (those were my two tips) and Alpha_vst threw in a third solution: disable the dialog |
| 18:15.18 | rrowland | Oh my god, I'm so happy with myself right now |
| 18:15.41 | Flop | yea but idk how to do that lol |
| 18:15.44 | Flop | which i already said |
| 18:15.56 | `3ICE | and then i told you how to hide the dialog |
| 18:15.57 | Martul | is still :( |
| 18:16.15 | Flop | yea and i said i dont know how |
| 18:16.20 | TheLaughingMan | So then |
| 18:16.20 | `3ICE | i told you how to do it |
| 18:16.24 | Flop | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.30 | rrowland | The standard AI for sentries casts guardian shield no matter what in combat, and never cast force field. The ability was actually disabled. |
| 18:16.56 | `3ICE | you missed two lines |
| 18:17.02 | rrowland | I rewrote the AI, in the AI files, to cast force field between melee/short range units and friendly units |
| 18:17.16 | rrowland | And to only use guardian shield if at least 1/3 of the attacking army has a ranged attack |
| 18:17.22 | Flop | where? |
| 18:17.49 | thmsn^ | How would you make a unit unattackable by a specific unit from an enemy but attackable from an allied specific unit ? |
| 18:17.50 | `3ICE | [20:08:49] <`3ICE> dialog - hide (or disable) |
| 18:17.50 | `3ICE | [20:08:55] <`3ICE> for player group: |
| 18:17.50 | `3ICE | [20:09:00] <`3ICE> convert player to player group |
| 18:18.01 | DPS|prodiG | header is corrupt is the most annoying thing in the entire world T_T |
| 18:18.08 | `3ICE | agree |
| 18:18.16 | `3ICE | right after no snap-to-grid for terrain |
| 18:18.21 | rrowland | And according to comments in blizzard's own AI files, they don't know how toget the range of a unit |
| 18:18.23 | rrowland | But I did |
| 18:18.25 | rrowland | flex flex |
| 18:18.34 | `3ICE | haha nice rrowland |
| 18:18.48 | `3ICE | send a resume to blizz and leave it empty, only putting that 1 code on it |
| 18:18.52 | `3ICE | i am better than what you have |
| 18:18.56 | `3ICE | "i am better than what you have" |
| 18:19.12 | rrowland | .// Not really able to test for this yet |
| 18:19.13 | rrowland | .// Need to determine if the unit in question has a ranged weapon |
| 18:19.20 | rrowland | Are the comments I'm referring to |
| 18:19.36 | `3ICE | hmm that weakens your argument |
| 18:19.46 | `3ICE | they basically made it into a "todo" |
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| 18:20.04 | rrowland | "Not really able to test for this yet" |
| 18:20.27 | rrowland | I looked through their filters |
| 18:20.34 | rrowland | And their catalog functions |
| 18:20.39 | rrowland | None point to range |
| 18:21.00 | `3ICE | catalogs should be able to... |
| 18:21.03 | rrowland | Regardless I did it without the trigger editor so I'm happy |
| 18:21.08 | rrowland | Yeah I did it with catalogs |
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| 18:21.23 | DPS|prodiG | in game variants, max team size in the game type tab is the maximum amount of players allowed in the lobby, not the max players allowed in actual teams right? |
| 18:21.24 | Flop | how do i hide the dialog when the only option is "last created dialog" which doesnt work |
| 18:21.33 | Flop | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.37 | Flop | oops |
| 18:21.37 | Flop | lol |
| 18:21.44 | Flop | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.58 | `3ICE | why would last created dialog work? |
| 18:22.00 | `3ICE | you only have one |
| 18:22.04 | `3ICE | wouldn't** |
| 18:22.09 | Flop | idk but it doesnt |
| 18:22.12 | Flop | i just tried it |
| 18:22.20 | `3ICE | wtf |
| 18:22.30 | `3ICE | you hide the dialog for everyone after one vote? |
| 18:22.32 | `3ICE | unfair |
| 18:22.56 | `3ICE | every player should get a chance to vote |
| 18:22.58 | Flop | lol |
| 18:23.02 | Flop | just for testing dude |
| 18:23.05 | `3ICE | otherwise it is not a vote, but a "host selects options" |
| 18:23.08 | Flop | it still didnt hide it for anyone |
| 18:23.16 | Flop | soo |
| 18:23.47 | `3ICE | so try doing it properly :) |
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| 18:24.06 | `3ICE | step 1: save your dialog into a variable |
| 18:24.12 | Flop | LOL |
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| 18:24.20 | Flop | ok so i made some progress |
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| 18:24.44 | Flop | now when u hit "Yes" the "Yes" option dissappears. lol. then if u hit "No" the "No" option disappears, but the dailog BG is still there |
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| 18:24.58 | `3ICE | you are hiding a dialog item, not a dialog |
| 18:25.17 | Flop | yea because under dialog theres no option that works |
| 18:25.23 | Flop | at least under dialog i can hide "Used Dialog" |
| 18:25.27 | Flop | i mean |
| 18:25.29 | Flop | u no wut i mean |
| 18:25.39 | Flop | dialog item allows me to hide "used dialog item" |
| 18:25.44 | `3ICE | yeah i know: you mean you didnt managed to get it to work |
| 18:25.56 | `3ICE | - |
| 18:25.56 | `3ICE | d |
| 18:26.35 | Martul | is still :( |
| 18:27.19 | Flop | i got it to work |
| 18:27.21 | Flop | next issue |
| 18:27.29 | Flop | for some reason my loading screen image used to show up |
| 18:27.33 | Flop | and now its just blank purple |
| 18:27.38 | Flop | i never changed it tho |
| 18:27.40 | Tehwildcard | did you replace it? |
| 18:27.46 | Flop | no |
| 18:27.56 | Tehwildcard | change it then change it back |
| 18:28.40 | Flop | didnt work |
| 18:28.44 | Flop | yea its weird because |
| 18:28.53 | Flop | i used the same image as my loading screen and my map preview |
| 18:29.02 | Flop | and the map preiew was always just purple, but the loading screen worked |
| 18:29.02 | Tehwildcard | and the map preview works? |
| 18:29.04 | Flop | now both are purple |
| 18:29.07 | Tehwildcard | .. |
| 18:29.18 | Tehwildcard | I would reimport it >.> |
| 18:29.20 | Tehwildcard | thats just |
| 18:29.23 | Tehwildcard | odd |
| 18:29.51 | Tehwildcard | is it a .tga? .dds? |
| 18:30.01 | Flop | .tga |
| 18:30.02 | Skizot | Tehwildcard, i have people on the way to your house. |
| 18:30.07 | Tehwildcard | fuck |
| 18:30.08 | Flop | it shows up fine in the import module |
| 18:30.12 | Tehwildcard | I'll start packing |
| 18:30.46 | Tehwildcard | how far is auburndale? I haven't lived here long |
| 18:30.53 | DPS|prodiG | game variants is impossible >.> |
| 18:30.59 | Tehwildcard | Im in like uh south lakeland |
| 18:31.06 | Skizot | near mulberry? |
| 18:31.16 | Skizot | i mean south lakeland. |
| 18:31.16 | Tehwildcard | closer to bartow I think |
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| 18:31.20 | Skizot | oh snap. |
| 18:31.23 | prodiG | any melee mapmakers around who've successfully published a map that can be opened to public? :o |
| 18:31.26 | Skizot | highlands city |
| 18:31.33 | Skizot | 540a etc? |
| 18:31.36 | Tehwildcard | rofl |
| 18:31.39 | Tehwildcard | I live on 540a |
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| 18:31.43 | Tehwildcard | off of |
| 18:31.44 | Skizot | got ya |
| 18:31.45 | Tehwildcard | rather |
| 18:31.50 | Skizot | crews lake road? |
| 18:31.54 | Tehwildcard | >.> |
| 18:31.55 | Tehwildcard | close |
| 18:31.57 | Tehwildcard | wtf |
| 18:32.06 | Skizot | I used to live on CLR |
| 18:32.07 | Tehwildcard | Already stalking me |
| 18:32.24 | Tehwildcard | Im on mikasuki |
| 18:32.32 | Skizot | ahh |
| 18:32.35 | Tehwildcard | like...by brewsters |
| 18:32.42 | Skizot | yeah auburndale is like 45 mins to an hour away |
| 18:32.55 | Tehwildcard | Nice, going to come stalk you then |
| 18:32.59 | Skizot | haha |
| 18:33.04 | Skizot | bring beers |
| 18:33.07 | Skizot | we don't drink |
| 18:33.08 | Tehwildcard | ofc |
| 18:33.59 | Skizot | how old are you? |
| 18:34.40 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/queen-war/. Queen War. BStallion (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 18:34.45 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/close-islands/. Close Islands. CrowbarSka (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 18:35.02 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:35.33 | prodiG | any melee mapmakers around who've successfully published a map that can be opened to public?/can pm me and help me with game variant settings <3 |
| 18:35.55 | Ignorance | prodiG, what're you making? |
| 18:36.10 | Vandari | Another newbie question. I can't seem to get terrain to snap to grid |
| 18:36.14 | Vandari | is that even possible? |
| 18:36.21 | prodiG | i'm porting fighting spirit from broodwar, and keep gettingk illed by the header is corrupt thing |
| 18:36.22 | Alpha_vst | what do u mean by snap |
| 18:36.31 | prodiG | everything i find on google tells me to try something different so idk |
| 18:36.50 | prodiG | i had it working earler, but i could never cilck the "open to public" button |
| 18:38.32 | Alpha_vst | are you uploading it as a private map? |
| 18:38.37 | prodiG | no, it's public |
| 18:38.49 | Alpha_vst | is it locked |
| 18:38.59 | prodiG | atm yes |
| 18:39.09 | Alpha_vst | there you go |
| 18:39.18 | prodiG | it has to be unlocked to make it public? |
| 18:39.28 | Alpha_vst | from what i have heard yes |
| 18:39.28 | prodiG | i thought locked just meant you can't pull it from bnet into the editor |
| 18:39.32 | prodiG | oh wow |
| 18:39.38 | prodiG | i'll try that i guess |
| 18:41.01 | Vandari | by snap i mean that i'm trying to get the edges and corners perfectly edged |
| 18:41.34 | Flop | yea this loading screen glitch is rly weird, perhaps my filesize is too big, what should be a good size for a TGA file? |
| 18:41.43 | TheLaughingMan | Does anyone know how to do presets? |
| 18:41.55 | Alpha_vst | of yoru textures or your cliff levels? |
| 18:42.27 | `3ICE | sure TheLaughingMan, ask away :) |
| 18:42.37 | TheLaughingMan | How do you make them |
| 18:42.46 | `3ICE | right click --> new --> preset? |
| 18:42.58 | TheLaughingMan | How do you give it a value though? |
| 18:43.04 | TheLaughingMan | I have a integer preset |
| 18:43.05 | Vandari | of my textures |
| 18:43.18 | Alpha_vst | its a value |
| 18:43.33 | Alpha_vst | you use them with custom defintions |
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| 18:44.23 | TheLaughingMan | But how do you make the value |
| 18:44.50 | `3ICE | preset123 |
| 18:44.50 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.51 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.59 | `3ICE | i found that changing it to custom script works |
| 18:45.29 | Verr82 | How do I make Blink able to teleport into the fog of war? |
| 18:45.54 | Alpha_vst | look at its validators |
| 18:46.01 | Verr82 | it has no validators |
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| 18:46.57 | Verr82 | I read on the forums that there was supposed to be a hasvision validator but Blink has no validators... |
| 18:47.24 | Skizot | anyone here EU? |
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| 18:47.57 | Jepjr | Someone mind helping me with an actor problem real quick? I'm trying to make a crate, but when I duplicate the crates actor, it doesn't assign to the unit. |
| 18:48.02 | Kerotan | Anyone know how to add 'Movers' to a unit/structure? |
| 18:48.12 | `3ICE | give it the move ability |
| 18:48.15 | `3ICE | and changes its speed |
| 18:48.29 | Martul | is still :( |
| 18:48.35 | Kerotan | Hm |
| 18:48.46 | `3ICE | Martul is that an auto message or are you afraid to psot the reason? |
| 18:48.48 | Kerotan | Well I dont want the unit to move, but just turn |
| 18:48.59 | Kerotan | I was thinking it wasnt able to turn cause it didnt have the ground mover |
| 18:49.07 | Martul | yall know the reason |
| 18:49.09 | `3ICE | Kerotan you might need to take a look at turrets (hard to get to work unless you have experience) |
| 18:49.10 | Martul | Blizzard |
| 18:49.13 | `3ICE | i forgot |
| 18:49.17 | `3ICE | say it again |
| 18:49.19 | Skizot | HEY EU GUYS |
| 18:49.20 | Kerotan | Already messed with turrets |
| 18:49.25 | Kerotan | Doesnt effect what im doing |
| 18:49.26 | Skizot | TRY MY DAMNED MAP. |
| 18:49.32 | Alpha_vst | NO |
| 18:49.34 | Skizot | LET ME KNOW IF THE LOCALIZATION WORKED |
| 18:49.38 | Skizot | :D |
| 18:49.40 | Alpha_vst | NO |
| 18:49.45 | Alpha_vst | im us 0.o |
| 18:49.50 | Martul | for 1 blizzard failed by not allowing us to override files in the mpq by using imports |
| 18:49.52 | Skizot | it'sup in the us too |
| 18:49.57 | thmsn | Skizot what eu map ? |
| 18:49.58 | Skizot | newer version too. |
| 18:50.00 | thmsn | i'm eu |
| 18:50.02 | Skizot | Terran COnflict |
| 18:50.06 | Skizot | search for it. |
| 18:50.07 | ZeroAme | Ugh... |
| 18:50.17 | `3ICE | Don't forget the capital O! (joke) |
| 18:50.19 | ZeroAme | How can I add a unit type to a unit group? |
| 18:50.46 | thmsn | Skizot is it published? or would I have to get it from the homepage? |
| 18:50.52 | Skizot | it's published |
| 18:50.58 | `3ICE | ZeroAme i guess its "find units" |
| 18:51.08 | Skizot | WAIT |
| 18:51.14 | Skizot | published the wrong one to eu. |
| 18:51.16 | Skizot | >_> |
| 18:51.20 | `3ICE | ouchie :) |
| 18:51.55 | wOlfLinG | How do i make a building spawn a unit every 5 seconds? |
| 18:51.57 | ZeroAme | 3ICE thats what I thought but I'm not seeing that in the list for this trigger. |
| 18:52.02 | thmsn | Skizot it can't find it |
| 18:52.08 | `3ICE | 1sec |
| 18:52.29 | Martul | damn blizzard |
| 18:52.32 | Martul | is still :( |
| 18:53.14 | Ignorance | is there some way to scale a model? |
| 18:53.15 | Ignorance | for say |
| 18:53.18 | Ignorance | attaching it to a unit |
| 18:53.23 | Reactorex | Pft.. |
| 18:53.27 | Reactorex | QQ. |
| 18:53.29 | Ignorance | say I want a tiny queen riding on a sentry... |
| 18:53.37 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.05 | Ignorance | Creates a list? |
| 18:54.07 | `3ICE | that is one damn ugly function |
| 18:54.10 | Ignorance | But there is no list in this game! |
| 18:54.12 | `3ICE | its called "find units" |
| 18:54.14 | `3ICE | and i hate it |
| 18:54.17 | ZeroAme | lol |
| 18:54.28 | `3ICE | we need "units of type" |
| 18:54.35 | `3ICE | probably works much faster |
| 18:54.50 | ZeroAme | Theres alot of things needed |
| 18:54.50 | Reactorex | We have something similar. |
| 18:54.55 | Reactorex | Units in region matching condition. |
| 18:54.58 | `3ICE | i still remember its JASS code: EnumUnitsOfType |
| 18:55.02 | Reactorex | Just use entire map for your region. |
| 18:55.02 | `3ICE | i used that function a lot |
| 18:55.27 | `3ICE | no stupid overhead like "in region" or "max this many units" |
| 18:55.28 | Skizot | thmsn |
| 18:55.30 | Reactorex | You can specify a specific player, unit filters, and unit type. |
| 18:55.30 | Skizot | try now |
| 18:55.33 | Reactorex | And a bit more. |
| 18:56.32 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.32 | ZeroAme | Oh 3ICE you could have made the range 256 since thats largest map size :P |
| 18:56.45 | `3ICE | i just used 99999 :) |
| 18:57.00 | `3ICE | went for -1 intuitively but wasnt sure |
| 18:57.49 | `3ICE | improved above: |
| 18:57.50 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.17 | ZeroAme | Ugh yay, I have to get 5 unit groups filled with 8 unit types each :( |
| 18:58.43 | `3ICE | that's going to be a lot of using ugly functions :) |
| 18:58.51 | ZeroAme | Yes |
| 18:59.01 | ZeroAme | But thats what I get for making complicated maps |
| 18:59.11 | ZeroAme | I just hope its worth it |
| 18:59.44 | ZeroAme | And then I guess I'll have to copy all these triggers for each player? |
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| 19:00.37 | thmsn | Skizot when I search for Terran COnflict nothing is returned :< |
| 19:00.57 | Skizot | try just terran |
| 19:01.01 | Skizot | capital t |
| 19:01.06 | Skizot | Terran |
| 19:01.12 | `3ICE | ZeroAme loop it for gr8 justice |
| 19:01.22 | `3ICE | lol capitalization totally doesn't matter |
| 19:01.26 | thmsn | Skizot nothing |
| 19:01.30 | Skizot | ... |
| 19:01.33 | Skizot | it's there |
| 19:01.45 | Verr82 | $50 to whoever finds Blink's validators |
| 19:02.00 | thmsn | Skizot maybe but I can't find it apparentyl :< |
| 19:02.08 | thmsn | don't I just write Terran in search ? |
| 19:02.15 | Skizot | multiplayer -> create game -> "terran" |
| 19:02.55 | thmsn | Skizot okay Terran returns nothing |
| 19:02.59 | thmsn | terran does |
| 19:03.00 | thmsn | :D |
| 19:04.10 | thmsn | Skizot testing it with 4 players now |
| 19:04.11 | thmsn | :) |
| 19:04.13 | thmsn | i'm at a lan |
| 19:04.37 | thmsn | Skizot do we need players on each team? P |
| 19:04.38 | thmsn | :P |
| 19:04.53 | Skizot | should be one team |
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| 19:05.17 | Azu | http://i45.tinypic.com/dlg8rm.png |
| 19:05.18 | Azu | ouch |
| 19:06.18 | `3ICE | awards Azu the reward of epic screenshot! |
| 19:06.29 | Azu | haha |
| 19:06.38 | Azu | accepts the reward |
| 19:06.39 | s4ikD | does nyone know how i can prevent units from walking through buildings? |
| 19:06.55 | `3ICE | ask them nicely, if that doesn't work, bring out the whip |
| 19:07.10 | TheLaughingMan | Woot! |
| 19:07.19 | prodiG | does anyone know how a US client can publish to the EU/Asia server? apparently changing the login gateway to eu-beta.login.battle.net and logging into an EU account doesn't work |
| 19:07.25 | thmsn | Skizot localization seems to work |
| 19:07.33 | Skizot | :) |
| 19:07.36 | thmsn | and the Set Amount if Enemies button does not work |
| 19:07.36 | thmsn | :P |
| 19:07.46 | Skizot | huh? |
| 19:07.57 | Martul | :( |
| 19:08.07 | `3ICE | Pandepic Skizot just published his map on eu with an eu client |
| 19:08.13 | `3ICE | prodiG* |
| 19:08.32 | `3ICE | p<tab> is too lazy |
| 19:08.34 | Skizot | you need an EU account |
| 19:08.42 | `3ICE | he has 1 |
| 19:08.45 | prodiG | i'm on US and don't have an EU client, just an EU account someone gave to me |
| 19:08.51 | Martul | Blizzard GE designers are stupid |
| 19:08.56 | `3ICE | obviously |
| 19:09.05 | thmsn | Skizot all our 4 players has a dialog in the middle |
| 19:09.10 | thmsn | Set Amount of Enemie |
| 19:09.10 | thmsn | s |
| 19:09.16 | `3ICE | yet they gave us a lot of cool stuff and only a few of them are broken |
| 19:09.17 | thmsn | nothing happens when we press a b utton |
| 19:09.32 | Martul | What is the damn reason for preventing modders from using imports to override files in the mpqs? |
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| 19:09.38 | Skizot | are you SURE you are playing terran conflict?? |
| 19:09.43 | Skizot | it's two player |
| 19:09.47 | Reactorex | They're smart enough to not come in here and listen to the QQ. |
| 19:09.58 | Azu | Skizot demo version out yet? :) |
| 19:10.00 | prodiG | Do i need an EU client to publish on EU, or should changing the login server to eu-beta.login.battle.net be enough |
| 19:10.25 | thmsn | Skizot maybe not |
| 19:10.27 | thmsn | :P |
| 19:10.30 | `3ICE | prodiG, changing that one setting should be enough |
| 19:10.34 | Skizot | prodiG, all you need is an EU acct, and to change it in the editor |
| 19:10.34 | `3ICE | worked for Skizot |
| 19:10.37 | prodiG | ic |
| 19:10.37 | prodiG | okay |
| 19:10.44 | MrRoy | How come my map doesn't appear in the UMS maps (I check in the 1 game played in last hour and it's not there) |
| 19:10.50 | MrRoy | checked* |
| 19:10.50 | prodiG | i must have screwed something else up, i'll give it another shot |
| 19:10.51 | prodiG | thx guys |
| 19:10.58 | Skizot | np |
| 19:11.03 | Reactorex | Have you hosted it once yet, MrRoy? |
| 19:11.06 | Reactorex | And started the game. |
| 19:11.08 | Martul | I bet the reason for preventing modders from using imports to override files in the mpqs is probably very stupid. |
| 19:11.11 | MrRoy | yes |
| 19:11.19 | Reactorex | Public or private? |
| 19:11.21 | MrRoy | public |
| 19:12.51 | MrRoy | yes I did reactorex |
| 19:12.57 | MrRoy | oops |
| 19:13.01 | Reactorex | Mm. I don't know, then. |
| 19:13.09 | MrRoy | well |
| 19:13.16 | MrRoy | I'll try again. |
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| 19:13.28 | MrRoy | Anyways it's not yet finished, I was just wondering |
| 19:13.35 | MrRoy | There's only 3 waves done (it's a defense map) |
| 19:13.49 | thmsn | Skizot hah, sorry it was another map |
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| 19:13.56 | thmsn | Skizot it can only find terran defence |
| 19:14.08 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.15 | onetwo | lol didnt get partnership on the video |
| 19:14.16 | Ignorance | Hey, what's the attachment point between center and overhead? |
| 19:14.19 | onetwo | cause sc2 isnt family friendly i guess |
| 19:14.24 | onetwo | all the triggers |
| 19:14.26 | onetwo | the editor has too much gore |
| 19:14.34 | TheLaughingMan | Woot! |
| 19:14.50 | Reactorex | lawl. |
| 19:14.54 | TheLaughingMan | My framework works! |
| 19:15.06 | Reactorex | If that's really the reason, onetwo, I'm gonna rofl. |
| 19:15.11 | onetwo | it has to be |
| 19:15.19 | Reactorex | I bet it really is. xD |
| 19:15.20 | onetwo | they allow software if its teaching |
| 19:15.21 | Ignorance | Nobody knows? :( |
| 19:15.21 | onetwo | which i am |
| 19:15.22 | Skizot | FieldBattlecruiser AG - ATS Laser Battery |
| 19:15.23 | Skizot | Stats - Backswing0.5000 |
| 19:15.25 | Skizot | errr |
| 19:15.33 | Skizot | try searchinf for "<" |
| 19:15.34 | Azu | anyone wanna play some custom sc2/wc3 maps? |
| 19:15.36 | Ignorance | I want to attach a phoenix to a sentry to look like a crown, but overhead is too high |
| 19:15.38 | Reactorex | But could it, per haps, be because it's beta software? |
| 19:15.40 | wOlfLinG | How do i change the damage for a Void ray copy? |
| 19:15.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster SilverSeraphim (~User@pool-173-69-61-233.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:15.45 | Ignorance | and origin is inside the crystal |
| 19:15.56 | thmsn | Skizot I can't find that map :/ |
| 19:16.14 | onetwo | i dont know reactorex |
| 19:16.24 | onetwo | i dont understand because youtube makes profit from videos all the time |
| 19:16.30 | onetwo | so in a way they are bending the rules |
| 19:16.36 | onetwo | and they DIDNT take down my video |
| 19:16.39 | wOlfLinG | Anyone? I cant find the damage section in the Prismatic beam copy |
| 19:16.40 | onetwo | meaning they dont think its infringing |
| 19:16.44 | Martul | :( |
| 19:16.47 | onetwo | they just didnt allow revenue sharing |
| 19:16.57 | Adjudicator | wolfling go into the original voidray's settings, go to effects, stats, dmg |
| 19:17.02 | Adjudicator | it will create a new copy |
| 19:17.10 | Adjudicator | or just go to effects stats dmg of an existing copy |
| 19:18.35 | Flop | my map gets to 100% publishing then fails because "Default values are not valid" |
| 19:18.52 | Flop | i searched it and apparently it's because i have too many players, even though ive published it before |
| 19:19.07 | Flop | ive removed like 3 players and it still wont work, i cant afford to remove anymore withpout breaking the game |
| 19:19.12 | Reactorex | Next step for me.. |
| 19:19.18 | Reactorex | Add model attaching to attachment points. |
| 19:19.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dark`Workk (~electra@adsl-76-241-83-135.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:19.36 | vjeux | I've updated this post a little |
| 19:19.36 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/1561-help-us-promote-sc2mapster/ |
| 19:19.39 | Ignorance | Is there some way to modify a unit's attachment points? |
| 19:20.27 | wOlfLinG | @Adjudicator I cant seem to find that. (Ive created a new unit btw. Im assigning a void ray weapon copy to it but want to increase its damage and remove the charging) |
| 19:20.31 | Skizot | http://i49.tinypic.com/15cmsch.jpg |
| 19:20.50 | Azu | guess not :< |
| 19:21.07 | Skizot | that's what it should look like thmsn |
| 19:21.24 | Alpha_vst | woot almost got zombies in my game |
| 19:21.44 | Azu | Skizot eu gogo :P |
| 19:21.50 | Skizot | it should be on the EU |
| 19:21.52 | Skizot | :/ |
| 19:22.00 | Skizot | thmsn can't find it though |
| 19:22.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (~6d2929be@gateway/web/freenode/x-esifdsugrvuhijho) |
| 19:22.22 | Skizot | it's public though |
| 19:22.31 | Azu | http://i46.tinypic.com/4tm5b7.png |
| 19:23.09 | Martul | :( |
| 19:23.34 | Azu | Skizot you have an eu account aswell? if so host and let me dl it :p |
| 19:24.12 | Ignorance | Is there some way to do lighting so that it only affects one unit? |
| 19:24.20 | Skizot | http://i47.tinypic.com/e9udg0.jpg |
| 19:24.30 | Skizot | that's on the EU acct. |
| 19:24.43 | Skizot | as you can see. |
| 19:24.48 | Skizot | it's public and there. |
| 19:24.51 | Azu | :< |
| 19:25.19 | thmsn | Skizot I only get 2 Terran Defence maps returned when I search for Terran |
| 19:25.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Curt`` (~DorkeyDea@adsl-76-241-83-135.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:25.24 | Azu | same |
| 19:25.24 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 19:25.27 | onetwo | man so funny |
| 19:25.30 | onetwo | editor isnt family-safe guys |
| 19:25.37 | Skizot | vjeux is gonna host one. |
| 19:25.39 | onetwo | haha |
| 19:25.40 | onetwo | man |
| 19:25.56 | thmsn | Skizot how do you host a map if you have not published it ? |
| 19:26.10 | Skizot | do the math. |
| 19:26.14 | Azu | you publish it |
| 19:26.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Motive (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:26.38 | thmsn | it just seems wrong to publish another persons map :) |
| 19:26.44 | Azu | yea |
| 19:26.47 | Skizot | i asked him to. |
| 19:26.52 | `3ICE | wow editing on two computers, on having enUS other having enGB locale is a pain |
| 19:26.59 | `3ICE | have to relocalize every time i transfer the map |
| 19:27.09 | Azu | :p |
| 19:27.18 | `3ICE | and if i kmess up (overwriting the wrong locale) i lose all the changes i made |
| 19:27.24 | `3ICE | so i have to diff the locales |
| 19:27.27 | vjeux | azu accept |
| 19:27.31 | Azu | i did :D |
| 19:29.24 | Skizot | it WILL have bugs |
| 19:29.25 | Skizot | fyi |
| 19:31.03 | Flop | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.07 | Flop | any idea why that isnt working? |
| 19:31.31 | Skizot | why wouldn't it? |
| 19:31.40 | AsaPhelps | So red white and blue = good |
| 19:31.43 | `3ICE | you forgot event? |
| 19:31.47 | `3ICE | have impossible condition? |
| 19:32.05 | `3ICE | get into an infinite loop before the thread reaches that action? |
| 19:32.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster bam_ftw (~email@dyx163.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:33.10 | Flop | is it because i made the engineering bay unselectable? |
| 19:33.46 | `3ICE | ooh nice 1 |
| 19:34.13 | `3ICE | is it because <something I could easily test, but refuse to> |
| 19:34.20 | Skizot | http://videosift.com/video/Ozzy-Osbourne-Scares-People-At-Madame-Tussauds |
| 19:34.23 | Skizot | i love ozzy |
| 19:34.37 | Flop | yea it cant be anything wrong with the trigger |
| 19:34.47 | Skizot | -Madame-Tussauds = WORLD FAMOUS WAX MUSEUM |
| 19:34.50 | Flop | i made a trigger that just does that on game init and its the first trigger in the entire map |
| 19:34.54 | Flop | and it still doesnt work |
| 19:34.57 | Flop | so |
| 19:35.00 | Azu | Skizot |
| 19:35.01 | onetwo | that might be way |
| 19:35.03 | Azu | we bugged it >< |
| 19:35.05 | onetwo | game init happens before map is loaded |
| 19:35.06 | onetwo | i think |
| 19:35.09 | onetwo | map is ready |
| 19:35.10 | onetwo | i mean |
| 19:35.13 | Skizot | i figured you would.. lol |
| 19:35.13 | onetwo | try delaying |
| 19:35.14 | onetwo | it |
| 19:35.15 | wOlfLinG | Ive made a unit with the archon actor and the void ray attack. However, the void ray beam doesnt show up and the archon looks like hes using his attack about 5 times a second rather than a beam as i want it to be. How do i make it look like the void ray ray again? xD |
| 19:35.15 | onetwo | a few seconds |
| 19:35.18 | Skizot | where did you break it? |
| 19:35.19 | Azu | before boss 2 |
| 19:35.23 | Skizot | #terranconflict |
| 19:35.24 | Flop | it was and it wasnt working |
| 19:35.30 | onetwo | oh |
| 19:35.30 | Azu | rocks spawn |
| 19:35.32 | Flop | btw /wave onetwo i commented on ur new vid |
| 19:35.32 | Skizot | post it in there |
| 19:35.42 | Skizot | wait. |
| 19:35.55 | onetwo | oh cool! |
| 19:36.02 | vjeux | k Skizot your map is buggy :p |
| 19:36.04 | Martul | stupid blizzard :( |
| 19:36.11 | vjeux | azu been stuck behind :( |
| 19:36.12 | Skizot | i already said that |
| 19:36.18 | Azu | ;< |
| 19:36.19 | vjeux | by some pile |
| 19:36.27 | Skizot | there are a few of those. |
| 19:36.34 | Azu | damn rocks ;_; |
| 19:36.34 | Skizot | trying to keep players going forward. |
| 19:36.53 | Skizot | i need to move both players to the position of the triggering unit. |
| 19:37.30 | Flop | under flags i had it so it "could not be clicked" and "could not be highlighted" |
| 19:37.36 | Flop | so i unchecked those, and it still doesnt work |
| 19:38.05 | wOlfLinG | Anyone know how to make a building spawn a certain unit every 5 seconds without using triggers? |
| 19:38.34 | Martul | What is the damn reason for preventing modders from using imports to override files in the mpqs? |
| 19:39.20 | onetwo | oh Martul, what are you working on atm? |
| 19:39.40 | HyBReD | (11:22:35 AM) Twiner: HyBReD: you arround? |
| 19:39.42 | HyBReD | sup |
| 19:39.45 | Martul | its a secret |
| 19:39.50 | onetwo | oh |
| 19:39.58 | onetwo | just wondering why youre still talking about the overriding mpq thing |
| 19:40.02 | onetwo | and havent moved on |
| 19:40.03 | onetwo | otherwise a project |
| 19:40.06 | onetwo | will take forever |
| 19:40.13 | onetwo | sometimes you just gotta give up |
| 19:40.17 | onetwo | and get it done |
| 19:40.20 | onetwo | in another way |
| 19:40.24 | Ignorance | Are there any serious guides about attachments? |
| 19:40.31 | Flop | martul just comes in and copy/pastes that same sentence every once in a while |
| 19:40.37 | Martul | what i need to do requires mpq file override |
| 19:40.38 | Ignorance | I want to know more about Attachment Properties+ in the data edtiro. |
| 19:40.42 | Ignorance | editor* |
| 19:40.47 | Martul | and now I can't fucking do it |
| 19:40.57 | onetwo | you must be able to find a way |
| 19:41.04 | onetwo | to do it ALMOST as good |
| 19:41.09 | onetwo | if you tell me what youre doing |
| 19:41.11 | Martul | its impossible to override mpq files |
| 19:41.13 | onetwo | maybe we can think too |
| 19:41.19 | onetwo | but i dont know what youre doing |
| 19:41.22 | onetwo | so i cant offer an alternative |
| 19:41.31 | onetwo | youve created a catch 22 |
| 19:41.35 | Martul | i need to be able to override files in the mpq |
| 19:42.00 | onetwo | what are you planning to replace? |
| 19:42.06 | onetwo | data? UI? |
| 19:42.06 | onetwo | sounds? |
| 19:42.09 | Martul | SC2Layout files |
| 19:42.12 | onetwo | ah |
| 19:42.37 | Martul | sadly, you can't override mpq files |
| 19:42.41 | onetwo | well i dont have experience in sc2layout |
| 19:42.53 | onetwo | but with editing and programming in general |
| 19:42.56 | onetwo | sometimes if you step away for a bit |
| 19:42.57 | onetwo | and come back |
| 19:43.00 | onetwo | youll find a different way |
| 19:43.01 | onetwo | to do things |
| 19:43.04 | onetwo | that you never thought of |
| 19:43.07 | Skizot | the map DOES override the mpqs |
| 19:43.23 | Flop | ok this is bugging me, wtf |
| 19:43.28 | Flop | it is an error with the triggers |
| 19:43.29 | Martul | onetwo, blizzard made it so you CAN'T override files in the mpq |
| 19:43.34 | Skizot | i can put a new texture in my map named the same as one of the existing textures and it will change all of them. |
| 19:43.45 | Flop | i tried Unit Selection - Add Headquarters [86.50, 68.50] to control group 1 for player 1 and it still doesnt work |
| 19:44.00 | Flop | i have that same trigger pasted in 4 spread out places in the trigger editor |
| 19:44.03 | Flop | and none of them work |
| 19:44.03 | onetwo | but martul, is there another way to do what you want to do? |
| 19:44.07 | Bemoliph- | Martul, just bypass the official importer and add things via MPQ Editors |
| 19:44.08 | Martul | nope |
| 19:44.09 | onetwo | have you made 100% sure you HAVE to override mpq? |
| 19:44.14 | Bemoliph- | At least that would be my first path |
| 19:44.16 | onetwo | youre 100% sure you cant override |
| 19:44.20 | onetwo | but i dont hear many other options |
| 19:44.26 | onetwo | youve thought of |
| 19:44.38 | Martul | if i add the files into the mpq itself then it modifies all maps not just mine |
| 19:44.51 | Bemoliph- | SC2 Maps are MPQs themselves |
| 19:45.00 | Bemoliph- | Just like SC and WC maps before them |
| 19:45.22 | `3ICE | lol who cares about other maps, its your map thats important to you |
| 19:45.33 | Martul | back in WC3 i could import a file and change it path and filename to match something found in the mpqs in order to override it |
| 19:45.39 | `3ICE | oh wait you mean patching the real game mpqs |
| 19:45.42 | `3ICE | yeah thats bad |
| 19:45.49 | Martul | which means the override only happens in my map |
| 19:45.58 | onetwo | have you thought about moddinf |
| 19:45.59 | onetwo | modding |
| 19:46.01 | onetwo | and that area |
| 19:46.05 | Bemoliph- | What I said should be the same thing |
| 19:46.07 | `3ICE | actually a bug caused some files to override stuff until war3 restart :) |
| 19:46.13 | Bemoliph- | Though I admit ahead of time I have not tested it |
| 19:46.27 | `3ICE | i used that bug to scare palyers i overwrote their profile information |
| 19:46.37 | Bemoliph- | Just you will have to use an external MPQ editor to modify the map, since the Importer is in Protect The User From Itself mode |
| 19:46.39 | `3ICE | they thought i hacked them >.< |
| 19:46.58 | Martul | Bemoliph-: I'm talking about using imports in a map to override files in the mpq |
| 19:47.09 | Bemoliph- | So am I |
| 19:47.19 | onetwo | touche |
| 19:47.34 | Martul | for example Base.SC2Data/UI/Layout/UI/GameUI.SC2Layout should override that file. but it doesn't |
| 19:47.49 | `3ICE | no it shouldnt |
| 19:47.53 | Martul | nor does /UI/Layout/UI/GameUI/SC2Layout |
| 19:47.53 | Skizot | LOL |
| 19:48.04 | `3ICE | you use the wrong paths dude |
| 19:48.05 | Skizot | UI/Layout/UI/GameUI.SC2Layout |
| 19:48.06 | Martul | or just GameUI.SC2Layout |
| 19:48.12 | `3ICE | its UI/Layout/UI/GameUI.SC2Layout |
| 19:48.13 | Skizot | no begining / |
| 19:48.22 | `3ICE | lol |
| 19:48.39 | Martul | tried UI/Layout/UI/GameUI.SC2Layout and it doesn't work either |
| 19:48.41 | `3ICE | cant believe it takes two days for him to blurt out the actual problem is he doesnt know how to override files |
| 19:48.44 | `3ICE | oh |
| 19:48.51 | onetwo | someone else try it |
| 19:48.52 | onetwo | maybe |
| 19:49.01 | Skizot | if your .sc2layout is wrong IN ANY WAY it just own't load it. |
| 19:49.05 | `3ICE | yup, im too lazy for that actually |
| 19:49.08 | onetwo | me too |
| 19:49.15 | onetwo | id rather just stick to data editor and some triggers |
| 19:49.17 | onetwo | and call it a day |
| 19:49.27 | `3ICE | i told him that yesterday |
| 19:50.37 | Martul | all i do is change numbers |
| 19:50.43 | wOlfLinG | How do i make a building auto-spawn a baneling every 5 seconds? I have the building, but i cant find what ability i need to do it |
| 19:50.55 | `3ICE | trigger it then |
| 19:50.58 | Martul | its called blizzard doesn't want you to override mpq files |
| 19:51.17 | onetwo | wolfling |
| 19:51.22 | `3ICE | event: every 5 sec, action: create 1 baneling at building for player facing 270 |
| 19:51.37 | Martul | Stupid blizzard |
| 19:51.42 | `3ICE | stupid blizzard |
| 19:51.51 | onetwo | by triggers: Event: Time - periodic (set to 5 seconds), no conditon or local vars, then action Unit - Create unit facing angle and set it to what 3ICE said |
| 19:52.14 | wOlfLinG | I also want that building to be buildable. Would that trigger work on all of that kind of building? |
| 19:52.27 | `3ICE | no for that you need a pick every unit in unit group |
| 19:52.42 | onetwo | wolfling |
| 19:52.55 | onetwo | the building part has to be done in data editor |
| 19:53.05 | onetwo | and uh |
| 19:53.09 | wOlfLinG | So theres no way to build a building and have it create a baneling every 5 seconds? |
| 19:53.13 | onetwo | oh |
| 19:53.14 | `3ICE | yeah there is |
| 19:53.16 | onetwo | hmm |
| 19:53.17 | `3ICE | behavior |
| 19:53.21 | onetwo | its a bit more difficult |
| 19:53.23 | onetwo | than what we said |
| 19:53.28 | `3ICE | but i like triggers more so i always solve stuff with triggers |
| 19:53.32 | onetwo | yeah |
| 19:53.37 | onetwo | just change the trigger we said |
| 19:53.39 | onetwo | to instead fo |
| 19:53.41 | onetwo | to* |
| 19:53.42 | onetwo | actions: |
| 19:53.46 | onetwo | Unit - Pick every unit in unit group and do |
| 19:53.55 | onetwo | and then set the unit group to be units in region matching condition or w/e |
| 19:54.00 | onetwo | living units etc |
| 19:54.14 | onetwo | then make an If - then - else in side the Actions for the pick units |
| 19:54.17 | wOlfLinG | ill give that a try then and see if it works |
| 19:54.23 | Martul | Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq |
| 19:54.28 | onetwo | inside the If, make a condition that Unit type of Picked unit == building type |
| 19:54.29 | `3ICE | pessimist! |
| 19:54.36 | `3ICE | of course it works, god is speaking to you |
| 19:54.43 | `3ICE | (onetwo is god) |
| 19:54.46 | onetwo | and then in the Then part, create a baneling at position of picked unit |
| 19:55.01 | wOlfLinG | I know onetwo is god. Its my explaining skills that isnt xD |
| 19:55.04 | `3ICE | yo onetwo thats a huge ass load on the computer, no good |
| 19:55.13 | onetwo | lol |
| 19:55.15 | onetwo | MEH |
| 19:55.17 | onetwo | not that bad every 5 secs |
| 19:55.17 | `3ICE | you need to specify the unit group |
| 19:55.27 | onetwo | people made top -down shooters |
| 19:55.29 | `3ICE | lag spike every 5sec is bad :) |
| 19:55.29 | onetwo | that lag like nuts |
| 19:55.30 | onetwo | i think thisll be ok |
| 19:55.54 | onetwo | theres no other way to do it |
| 19:55.57 | onetwo | outside of data editor |
| 19:55.58 | wOlfLinG | Also, any trigger tutorials around the net? I have no ideea how to make one xD |
| 19:55.59 | `3ICE | yup there is |
| 19:56.02 | onetwo | ? |
| 19:56.05 | `3ICE | im gonna do it and paste it here |
| 19:56.13 | onetwo | well im gonna do it my way and paste here too |
| 19:56.16 | onetwo | winner buys the other dinner |
| 19:56.17 | `3ICE | kk |
| 19:56.19 | onetwo | wait |
| 19:56.20 | onetwo | other way around |
| 19:56.23 | Reactorex | I'mma put in MY way, then. |
| 19:56.23 | `3ICE | lol |
| 19:56.26 | `3ICE | i <3 you |
| 19:57.28 | onetwo | <3 |
| 19:58.07 | Martul | Stupid blizzard |
| 19:58.12 | Flop | hey onetwo |
| 19:58.16 | Martul | Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 19:58.39 | wOlfLinG | Stop saying that xD |
| 19:58.44 | Flop | could u plz take a look at my map and see if u can figure out why none of my Control Group triggers are working onetwo? |
| 19:58.45 | Martul | its true |
| 19:58.48 | Martul | they do |
| 19:59.03 | `3ICE | 3ICE |
| 19:59.03 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.04 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.04 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.04 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.04 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.04 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.05 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.06 | `3ICE | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.06 | wOlfLinG | And? Saying it multiple times doesnt make it more true :) |
| 19:59.08 | `3ICE | boom and i win @ speed |
| 19:59.09 | onetwo | sure |
| 19:59.13 | onetwo | upload and send me flop |
| 19:59.16 | Martul | its a big nasty limit blizzard placed on modders |
| 19:59.42 | onetwo | hey wtf |
| 19:59.46 | onetwo | thats exactly what im doing |
| 19:59.47 | onetwo | 3ICE |
| 19:59.54 | `3ICE | haha :) |
| 20:00.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Cronos|Gone (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net) |
| 20:00.44 | onetwo | http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6092/triggs.jpg |
| 20:01.05 | `3ICE | copycat :o |
| 20:02.01 | onetwo | i used Extractor |
| 20:02.01 | `3ICE | but yeah this is the perfect way to do it in GUI |
| 20:02.01 | onetwo | oh 3ICE i didnt tell you |
| 20:02.01 | `3ICE | and we buy each other dinner |
| 20:02.01 | onetwo | im going to my prom with GUI |
| 20:02.02 | onetwo | cause i love GUI |
| 20:02.02 | onetwo | even though im 22 |
| 20:02.02 | onetwo | im somehow going to proml |
| 20:02.02 | onetwo | prom |
| 20:02.02 | onetwo | like peter did in fam guy |
| 20:02.02 | `3ICE | we don't have prom :( |
| 20:02.07 | `3ICE | but if i swap that m with an n... |
| 20:02.09 | `3ICE | hmm |
| 20:02.39 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:02.47 | onetwo | Flop upload it to wikiupload |
| 20:02.54 | Flop | i got it gimme a sec |
| 20:03.14 | onetwo | 5 |
| 20:03.15 | onetwo | 4 |
| 20:03.17 | onetwo | 3 |
| 20:03.19 | onetwo | 1 |
| 20:03.21 | onetwo | 2 |
| 20:03.21 | onetwo | TOO LATE FLOP |
| 20:03.24 | onetwo | jk jk |
| 20:03.31 | onetwo | but seriously im sending a hitman to your house |
| 20:03.32 | `3ICE | that was 5 sec and in the wrong order |
| 20:03.33 | Flop | www.bryancurran.me/onetwosc.SC2Map |
| 20:04.03 | `3ICE | you have a map named after you! I'm jealosu. |
| 20:04.10 | Flop | i name all my maps after you incase ur wondering |
| 20:04.17 | onetwo | im so touched |
| 20:04.18 | `3ICE | Actually there is a map on bnet called 3ICE is awesome as always.SC2Map |
| 20:04.21 | `3ICE | so i win |
| 20:04.22 | onetwo | *tear in eye while american flag goes up behind me* |
| 20:04.25 | wOlfLinG | Ok, ive tried that trigger, but due to being an utter trigger nub, i have no idea to do this bit: Unit Group - Pick each unit in (Barracks units in (Entire map) owned by player Any Player matching No Unit Filter, with at most Any Amount) and do (Actions) xD |
| 20:04.26 | onetwo | even though im canadia |
| 20:04.27 | onetwo | canadian |
| 20:04.40 | onetwo | Unit - Pick each unit in unit group |
| 20:04.45 | Flop | im gonna take a quick shower brb try to figure out why the control group wont bind, the trigger is near the end of the first trigger |
| 20:04.49 | onetwo | click on the Unit Group words |
| 20:04.59 | onetwo | change it to unit group - units in region matching condition |
| 20:05.04 | onetwo | k |
| 20:05.06 | Flop | ok onetwo? |
| 20:05.25 | onetwo | yes |
| 20:05.52 | onetwo | lol im watching millionaire matchmaker |
| 20:05.58 | onetwo | pretty funny |
| 20:06.02 | onetwo | people are so attitudy and egoy |
| 20:06.05 | onetwo | ego-ee |
| 20:06.23 | wOlfLinG | think ive got it now :). Thank you onetow and 3ICE |
| 20:06.26 | onetwo | np |
| 20:06.29 | `3ICE | np |
| 20:06.38 | onetwo | my street name is onetow |
| 20:06.42 | onetwo | cause ill tow you to the curb |
| 20:06.44 | onetwo | if you mess with me |
| 20:06.54 | `3ICE | my stree name is bice |
| 20:07.01 | Reactorex | http://www.pastebin.com/pWAeHSVE |
| 20:07.02 | `3ICE | cause when someone calsl me that i bitchsmack them |
| 20:07.09 | Reactorex | :P |
| 20:07.18 | Skizot | IMMA CALL YOU BO |
| 20:07.20 | onetwo | haha |
| 20:07.30 | onetwo | reactorex's street name is reactorsex |
| 20:07.41 | onetwo | fyi this channel is now rated T for Teen |
| 20:07.42 | Skizot | my skreet name is DADDY |
| 20:07.48 | Reactorex | No, onetwo. |
| 20:07.51 | Reactorex | It's M. |
| 20:07.54 | Reactorex | Or R. |
| 20:08.01 | onetwo | M. night schyamlyan |
| 20:08.01 | Skizot | rapes Reactorex |
| 20:08.08 | Reactorex | Depends on how you consider this channel. :) |
| 20:08.08 | `3ICE | 1. bitchsmack9 thumbs up |
| 20:08.09 | `3ICE | much like a bitchslap, but a "bitchsmack" sounds way better when you say it. It also proves to sound more intense than the average bitchslap. |
| 20:08.09 | `3ICE | Say it to me again, I WILL bitchsmack you, HARD. |
| 20:08.26 | Skizot | BO BICE BO BICE |
| 20:08.30 | onetwo | i like your option reactoresx |
| 20:08.36 | onetwo | its a good alternative |
| 20:08.42 | onetwo | to an eco friendly lifestyle |
| 20:08.44 | `3ICE | bitchsmacks Skizot |
| 20:09.00 | `3ICE | you have a daughter aged 4 |
| 20:09.07 | Skizot | BO BICE |
| 20:09.08 | `3ICE | i have been spying |
| 20:09.17 | Skizot | you were close. |
| 20:09.20 | `3ICE | heh |
| 20:09.22 | Skizot | SON is 4. |
| 20:09.25 | `3ICE | ouch |
| 20:09.27 | `3ICE | burn |
| 20:09.30 | Skizot | daughter is 2 |
| 20:09.44 | `3ICE | she's very smart for a 2 years old |
| 20:10.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:10.55 | Reactorex | Wolfling already lefted, though. |
| 20:10.59 | Reactorex | So he never saw my pastebin. xD |
| 20:11.23 | `3ICE | nice huge trigger Reactorex |
| 20:11.43 | onetwo | its more bloated than *insert political statement* |
| 20:11.46 | `3ICE | you even do your own garbage collection, thats impressive |
| 20:11.47 | onetwo | :D |
| 20:11.52 | `3ICE | we don't bother with that :) |
| 20:12.12 | onetwo | cause we dont need it |
| 20:12.16 | `3ICE | yup |
| 20:12.36 | onetwo | damn im looking at flops trigger |
| 20:12.39 | onetwo | it seems like it should work |
| 20:12.43 | onetwo | ive never done control group stuff before |
| 20:12.53 | `3ICE | hint: he has a flag on the unit |
| 20:13.00 | `3ICE | find it, yell at him about it, done |
| 20:13.03 | onetwo | k |
| 20:13.11 | `3ICE | unselectable |
| 20:13.13 | `3ICE | :P |
| 20:13.14 | wOlfLinG | I never left :/ |
| 20:13.54 | onetwo | yep, i made my own map |
| 20:13.57 | onetwo | add to control group worked |
| 20:15.36 | wOlfLinG | Year 11 had thier prom a month ago xD |
| 20:16.00 | wOlfLinG | lol, i was looking at past chat and didnt realise |
| 20:16.05 | wOlfLinG | Im an idiot xD |
| 20:16.12 | onetwo | LOL |
| 20:18.02 | Flop | alright onetwo |
| 20:18.04 | Flop | im back |
| 20:18.09 | Flop | u figure it out? |
| 20:18.16 | TheLaughingMan | Sweet! |
| 20:18.37 | onetwo | so flop, i made my own map first to just see that the trigger worked |
| 20:18.38 | onetwo | i placed a ghost |
| 20:18.42 | onetwo | and added it to control group |
| 20:18.42 | onetwo | and that worked |
| 20:18.45 | onetwo | so now im going through yours |
| 20:18.52 | Flop | mhm |
| 20:18.53 | wOlfLinG | Btw, ive got the spawning working, but theres a problem. The banelings spawn inside the building. How do i make them spawn outside? (could be due to the fact that the buildings are classed as flying for some reason atm. If so, how do i change that?) |
| 20:18.55 | Flop | and just so u know |
| 20:18.58 | Flop | it worked before |
| 20:19.00 | Flop | but not anymore |
| 20:19.12 | Flop | and it doesnt have to do with the unit its selecting, because i changed that |
| 20:19.28 | Flop | and it doesnt have to do with the unit's properties in the data editor, because ive changed those |
| 20:19.39 | Flop | so all thats left is the placement or other triggers that are affecting it |
| 20:20.50 | onetwo | heres what i see right now |
| 20:20.54 | onetwo | the HQ is placed for player 8 |
| 20:20.58 | onetwo | and youre trying to add it to control group 1 |
| 20:20.59 | onetwo | for player 1 |
| 20:21.02 | onetwo | is that an issue? |
| 20:21.12 | `3ICE | lolol ofc :) |
| 20:21.16 | onetwo | player 1 has a command center |
| 20:21.17 | onetwo | flying |
| 20:21.21 | onetwo | but the only HQ youre selecting |
| 20:21.23 | onetwo | or adding i mean |
| 20:21.27 | onetwo | is owned by player 8 |
| 20:21.46 | onetwo | not sure if you need to do some share control actions |
| 20:21.49 | onetwo | right before the control group thing |
| 20:22.39 | onetwo | it looks like Flop's jaw has Flopped |
| 20:22.41 | onetwo | :O |
| 20:22.42 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 20:23.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster AsaPhelps (~asaphelps@pool-151-203-255-77.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:24.07 | onetwo | other than that |
| 20:24.11 | onetwo | its a beautifully lit map |
| 20:24.14 | onetwo | i approve |
| 20:24.40 | TheLaughingMan | My Trigger AI Framework is about 75% done |
| 20:25.13 | wOlfLinG | Hmm... my banelings cant attack the banespawner (Can only target ground units), but my Hero can (it has an AA attack). The spawner is firmly on the ground, however is still classed as flying. Why is this and how do i fix it? |
| 20:25.32 | onetwo | check Movement flags |
| 20:25.35 | onetwo | err fields |
| 20:25.43 | Flop | wait |
| 20:25.44 | Flop | onetwo |
| 20:25.46 | Flop | lol |
| 20:25.55 | Flop | try to set the control group to my command center then |
| 20:26.02 | onetwo | ok |
| 20:26.05 | Flop | also ty, its my first map i ever made lol |
| 20:26.21 | Flop | learned everything from ur tuts so i owe it all to u lol |
| 20:26.23 | Flop | and rice helped out |
| 20:26.27 | onetwo | nice nice |
| 20:26.57 | onetwo | it has a really unique |
| 20:26.59 | onetwo | desolate look |
| 20:27.05 | AsaPhelps | So apparently Dennis Hopper died, but I don't know who that is |
| 20:27.10 | Flop | ouch |
| 20:27.12 | Flop | anyways did it work |
| 20:27.34 | AsaPhelps | look at the flags wolf |
| 20:27.39 | AsaPhelps | of the unit |
| 20:27.52 | onetwo | what should i be selecting |
| 20:27.54 | Flop | AsaPhelps *Gary Coleman |
| 20:27.58 | wOlfLinG | Yeah, im doing that now |
| 20:27.58 | onetwo | i dont seea a command center |
| 20:28.06 | onetwo | oh wait |
| 20:28.08 | Flop | try engineering bay |
| 20:28.09 | onetwo | it was the last made unit |
| 20:28.23 | onetwo | k ill try |
| 20:28.24 | onetwo | player 1's |
| 20:28.24 | Flop | engineering bay might be easier, its already built into the map |
| 20:28.26 | onetwo | engineering bay |
| 20:28.32 | Flop | and its ultimately what i want controlled anyways |
| 20:28.33 | Flop | yea |
| 20:29.44 | onetwo | oh |
| 20:29.44 | onetwo | k |
| 20:30.59 | wOlfLinG | woot! Working now :D |
| 20:31.18 | AsaPhelps | he died too Flop |
| 20:31.24 | AsaPhelps | but at least I know who that is |
| 20:31.48 | Flop | why do famous ppl die in spurts |
| 20:31.50 | Flop | is it like a fad? |
| 20:31.57 | onetwo | Flop |
| 20:32.09 | Flope | call me Flope |
| 20:32.15 | `3ICE | floppy |
| 20:33.07 | onetwo | k so |
| 20:33.12 | onetwo | engineering bay |
| 20:33.13 | onetvvo | ? |
| 20:33.17 | onetwo | has the unit flag |
| 20:33.26 | onetwo | unselectable |
| 20:33.27 | onetwo | and untargetable |
| 20:33.32 | onetwo | thus making it not able to be added |
| 20:33.34 | onetwo | to a control group |
| 20:33.37 | onetvvo | yea but that doesnt fix it lol |
| 20:33.42 | onetwo | it did for me |
| 20:33.42 | onetvvo | did u try it? |
| 20:33.44 | onetwo | i removed those 2 |
| 20:33.45 | onetvvo | OMG |
| 20:33.46 | onetwo | and went ingame |
| 20:33.46 | onetwo | it worked |
| 20:33.48 | onetvvo | rly |
| 20:33.49 | onetvvo | wtf |
| 20:33.52 | onetvvo | i swear i tried that |
| 20:33.57 | `3ICE | i said tht like... hours ago :D |
| 20:34.01 | onetvvo | i even typed it waaaaay up there |
| 20:34.37 | `3ICE | [22:18:21] <`3ICE> hint: he has a flag on the unit |
| 20:34.37 | `3ICE | [22:18:29] <`3ICE> find it, yell at him about it, done |
| 20:34.37 | `3ICE | [22:18:34] <onetwo> k |
| 20:34.37 | `3ICE | [22:18:43] <`3ICE> unselectable |
| 20:34.37 | `3ICE | [22:18:46] <`3ICE> :P |
| 20:34.38 | `3ICE | [ |
| 20:34.45 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:34.47 | onetwo | the HQ didnt |
| 20:34.51 | onetwo | but the engineering bay does |
| 20:35.03 | onetwo | make sure you add player 1's engineering bay |
| 20:35.04 | onetwo | to player 1 |
| 20:35.07 | Liquidor | Anyone else watching Eurovision? :P |
| 20:35.08 | onetwo | cause you stacked them all on one spot |
| 20:35.28 | `3ICE | Liquidor i am now |
| 20:35.38 | Liquidor | Denmark (my country) coming up in a bit !! |
| 20:35.41 | `3ICE | gotta see what thats all about, i am a curious man |
| 20:35.43 | Liquidor | Vote now ! |
| 20:35.59 | AsaPhelps | Can someone do me a quick favor |
| 20:36.04 | Liquidor | Oh and I'm doing something wrong with my map :S Don't know if it's a bug... |
| 20:36.08 | `3ICE | wut? song contest... |
| 20:36.09 | `3ICE | no thx |
| 20:36.38 | Martul | Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 20:36.40 | Martul | its a big nasty limit blizzard placed on modders |
| 20:36.48 | `3ICE | [22:37:05] <Martul> Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 20:36.48 | `3ICE | [22:37:07] <Martul> its a big nasty limit blizzard placed on modders |
| 20:36.53 | `3ICE | [22:37:16] <`3ICE> [22:37:05] <Martul> Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 20:36.53 | `3ICE | [22:37:16] <`3ICE> [22:37:07] <Martul> its a big nasty limit blizzard placed on modders |
| 20:36.57 | `3ICE | [22:37:22] <`3ICE> [22:37:16] <`3ICE> [22:37:05] <Martul> Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 20:36.57 | `3ICE | [22:37:22] <`3ICE> [22:37:16] <`3ICE> [22:37:07] <Martul> its a big nasty limit blizzard placed on modders |
| 20:36.58 | AsaPhelps | Can someone on US tell me if they can join the map named Missile Command .6F |
| 20:37.07 | Skizot | say it a few more times Martul. It might come true. |
| 20:37.16 | `3ICE | my point exactly |
| 20:38.44 | onetwo | oh Martul |
| 20:38.53 | wOlfLinG | Where do i find the broodling? The only ones i can find are the broodlord ones which are flying and unattackable until they attack and some that have no time limit. I cant find the ones with a time limit >< |
| 20:38.57 | onetwo | can you atleast rephrase it when you say it again |
| 20:39.00 | onetwo | so it doenst look like your spamming |
| 20:39.05 | onetwo | that way people wont write you off |
| 20:39.06 | onetwo | so quickly |
| 20:39.11 | onetwo | if youre going to do it, do it well |
| 20:39.15 | Skizot | Broodlord - broodling |
| 20:39.37 | onetvvo | well it worked ty onetwo. i was messing with the flags cannot be clicked and cannot be highlighted, not unselectable and untargetable |
| 20:39.43 | wOlfLinG | ya, that doesnt have a time limit |
| 20:39.44 | onetwo | ah |
| 20:39.45 | onetvvo | thats why i couldnt get it to work |
| 20:40.03 | Liquidor | Can someone tell me why this http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3924/playerproperties2010052.png turns into this? http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2835/screenshot003r.jpg |
| 20:40.04 | onetwo | the real Flop here |
| 20:40.05 | onetwo | is your name |
| 20:40.14 | onetvvo | wut |
| 20:40.23 | onetwo | liquidor |
| 20:40.27 | onetwo | Game Variant |
| 20:40.34 | CorneliusFlope | thats ma name |
| 20:40.37 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:40.41 | Skizot | because teams is broken |
| 20:40.47 | TheLaughingMan | Woot |
| 20:40.47 | AsaPhelps | Does using game variants mess maps up |
| 20:40.51 | AsaPhelps | Or does bnet just hate me |
| 20:40.53 | onetwo | no |
| 20:40.54 | TheLaughingMan | I am so happy |
| 20:40.55 | onetwo | its just for lobbies |
| 20:40.56 | onetwo | to work |
| 20:41.13 | AsaPhelps | well |
| 20:41.17 | onetwo | liquidor my video might help you |
| 20:41.20 | onetwo | so ill link it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLSq6ipLTTo |
| 20:41.22 | AsaPhelps | I keep getting an error |
| 20:41.25 | onetwo | i go over game variants a bit |
| 20:41.28 | AsaPhelps | My lobby doesnt load when I try to join my map |
| 20:41.34 | AsaPhelps | so I just sit in purgatory |
| 20:41.49 | Liquidor | Thanks Skizot, onetwo. I'll look into it |
| 20:42.02 | onetwo | k |
| 20:42.16 | `3ICE | requestiong +v for onetwo and myself. |
| 20:42.24 | onetwo | whats +v? |
| 20:42.24 | Skizot | denies it. |
| 20:42.30 | `3ICE | We basically run this place... |
| 20:42.39 | `3ICE | +v is voice |
| 20:42.45 | onetwo | jayz featuring 3ICE - run this town |
| 20:42.53 | `3ICE | makes you look cool with a + in front of your name |
| 20:42.58 | onetwo | oh, meh i wouldnt use voice though |
| 20:43.15 | `3ICE | heh i dont even know what its used for |
| 20:43.20 | `3ICE | but all the cool people have it |
| 20:43.23 | `3ICE | waay up there |
| 20:43.25 | onetwo | and i dont want it to accidently recording while im doing a tutorial |
| 20:43.34 | Skizot | if the channel gets moderated you will be unable to talk |
| 20:43.45 | onetwo | i played CS once and left my vent on and my reload was == to my mic button in vent from my old WoW clan, and they heard me for like 15 mins |
| 20:43.47 | onetwo | randomly |
| 20:44.01 | AsaPhelps | thats why you just shut off your mic |
| 20:44.07 | `3ICE | irc doesnt have voice chat dont worry about that :D |
| 20:44.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:44.23 | AsaPhelps | hmmm |
| 20:44.37 | AsaPhelps | so there are a dozen versions of my map sitting at the bottom |
| 20:44.42 | AsaPhelps | because they keep bugging out |
| 20:44.53 | AsaPhelps | and I delete them but they refuse to go quietly into the good night |
| 20:45.27 | onetwo | i have a man i can hire for you |
| 20:45.34 | onetwo | PM me.. he'll take care of it |
| 20:45.38 | onetwo | and hes italian |
| 20:45.42 | `3ICE | It's a trap! |
| 20:46.16 | `3ICE | hmm cool i didn't break my map |
| 20:46.26 | `3ICE | i merged two different versions into a new mpq file |
| 20:46.29 | `3ICE | and it worked |
| 20:46.30 | `3ICE | magic! |
| 20:46.45 | `3ICE | i was editing it on two computers at the same time |
| 20:46.54 | `3ICE | and came to the conclusion that i shouldn't have done it :) |
| 20:47.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster Hjalte (~chatzilla@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk) |
| 20:47.18 | `3ICE | as it took longer to repair it than the time i saved w/ the multitasking part |
| 20:47.53 | onetwo | noice |
| 20:48.04 | onetwo | i just localed nice into enGB |
| 20:48.07 | onetwo | localized* |
| 20:48.23 | onetwo | maybe more enAU though |
| 20:48.27 | AsaPhelps | LAWL |
| 20:48.30 | AsaPhelps | someone made a post |
| 20:48.39 | onetwo | hahah |
| 20:48.42 | AsaPhelps | that their join games button gets grayed out and stuff when trying to join a custom game |
| 20:48.52 | AsaPhelps | and one of the replies was blame missile command, which is my map |
| 20:48.57 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 20:49.25 | `3ICE | you are 1337 pr0 haxxor |
| 20:49.29 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 20:49.34 | Alpha_vst | peopel are stupid |
| 20:49.38 | Alpha_vst | its a bnet bug |
| 20:49.49 | `3ICE | no, you haxxor'd their computerzorz |
| 20:50.08 | Reactorex | Mwahahahahahaha. |
| 20:50.17 | Reactorex | Screwing around just gave me an easy, entertaining map idea.... >:3 |
| 20:50.19 | onetwo | asaphelps im gonna post about your map |
| 20:50.23 | `3ICE | you should tell them you'd repair it for 5$ |
| 20:50.27 | onetwo | its really screwing over my bnet experience |
| 20:50.32 | onetwo | :D |
| 20:50.54 | AsaPhelps | I feel so popular |
| 20:50.55 | `3ICE | i think i will have to join in the discussion. |
| 20:51.05 | `3ICE | i need to bring up my 1337 haxxor accusations |
| 20:51.07 | AsaPhelps | People seem to hate my map because it makes them have to relog |
| 20:51.12 | AsaPhelps | And they think colors are annoying |
| 20:51.15 | `3ICE | get it out to the public, see how well they take it |
| 20:51.38 | Liquidor | ..Great ! Now my header is corrupt after I changed the game variants :S |
| 20:51.50 | `3ICE | game variants is borken like that |
| 20:52.10 | `3ICE | notice how i said "borken"? that was totally intentional |
| 20:52.17 | `3ICE | i always say it like that |
| 20:52.17 | onetwo | i think colors will be blocked in next patch |
| 20:52.23 | onetwo | cause you could make your map the same color as the background |
| 20:52.33 | `3ICE | nah, we could colorize map names in war3 |
| 20:52.35 | AsaPhelps | wow apparently there's a bunch of posts about my map |
| 20:52.37 | `3ICE | no reson to disallow that |
| 20:52.39 | AsaPhelps | this is so awesome |
| 20:52.47 | AsaPhelps | they're all hate posts though |
| 20:52.57 | Liquidor | onetwo: Ping |
| 20:52.57 | `3ICE | fame is still fame bro :) |
| 20:53.02 | `3ICE | pong! |
| 20:53.13 | `3ICE | hmm we have high latency |
| 20:53.16 | `3ICE | 600 ms |
| 20:53.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster NeoDeathXp (~18931805@gateway/web/freenode/x-hpwobqxjdebitlhu) |
| 20:53.32 | Liquidor | you do |
| 20:53.35 | Liquidor | i dont! |
| 20:53.47 | `3ICE | latency happens betwen two objects |
| 20:53.48 | onetwo | except |
| 20:53.51 | onetwo | we couldnt color lobby names |
| 20:54.05 | CorneliusFlope | why does it say i cant publish because ive used 48mb/21mb of space? |
| 20:54.09 | CorneliusFlope | when i have 0 published maps? |
| 20:54.09 | NeoDeathXp | hey folks |
| 20:54.13 | onetwo | reactorex had a corrupt header issue for hours |
| 20:54.14 | Liquidor | onetwo: messing with game variants wont let me publish it |
| 20:54.15 | onetwo | not sure how he fixed it |
| 20:54.31 | Reactorex | Days. |
| 20:54.33 | `3ICE | delete everything |
| 20:54.41 | Reactorex | I found out a lot of stuff about game variants and player properties. |
| 20:54.50 | CorneliusFlope | same lol |
| 20:55.00 | Liquidor | Share the knowledge ! |
| 20:55.03 | onetwo | reactorex see if you can help liquidor |
| 20:55.04 | `3ICE | i only know one thing 'bout those damn things: that they do not work |
| 20:55.06 | onetwo | he just added a game variant |
| 20:55.08 | onetwo | and his game bugged |
| 20:55.12 | onetwo | i think its something to do with teams |
| 20:55.15 | onetwo | not sure though |
| 20:55.18 | Reactorex | Liquidor, how many players does your map have? |
| 20:55.26 | Liquidor | This http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3924/playerproperties2010052.png turns into this http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2835/screenshot003r.jpg |
| 20:55.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ResNet-9-170.resnet.ucsb.edu) |
| 20:55.36 | Liquidor | 2 computers, 6 players |
| 20:55.41 | Liquidor | as seen on first picture |
| 20:55.50 | Reactorex | Aha. :) |
| 20:55.50 | onetwo | that was before game variant |
| 20:55.52 | onetwo | so i told him to make one |
| 20:55.55 | onetwo | and now he cant upload he says |
| 20:55.58 | Reactorex | Specify it under game variants. |
| 20:56.02 | Liquidor | got the corrupt message |
| 20:56.04 | Reactorex | You CANNOT select a Teams option. |
| 20:56.18 | Reactorex | But you CAN specify the stuff under the other teams-based option. |
| 20:56.21 | Reactorex | What team a player is on. |
| 20:56.43 | Reactorex | Teams will wind up corrupting your head. |
| 20:56.45 | Reactorex | header* |
| 20:56.49 | Reactorex | As will controller in many cases. |
| 20:56.54 | `3ICE | head corruption! |
| 20:56.55 | Reactorex | User and computer both seemed to bug me each time. |
| 20:57.04 | Liquidor | so dont choose "2 teams" but just set players in the other team options? |
| 20:57.09 | Reactorex | Yes. |
| 20:57.12 | wOlfLinG | Looks like the broodling timed life is an effect. So how do i make an effect trigger when its spawned? |
| 20:57.34 | Liquidor | Gief back forces... |
| 20:57.36 | AsaPhelps | Reactor |
| 20:57.38 | Reactorex | Apply behaviour to last created unit. |
| 20:57.43 | AsaPhelps | Wait |
| 20:57.44 | Reactorex | Apply that to your broodling. |
| 20:57.52 | Reactorex | I hear you, AsaPhelps :P |
| 20:57.59 | AsaPhelps | If you use premade teams doesn't it work |
| 20:58.01 | Reactorex | Well, see you. |
| 20:58.09 | AsaPhelps | Or do you think that causes the corrupt header after a while |
| 20:58.21 | onetwo | afk |
| 20:58.23 | onetwo | for a while |
| 20:58.23 | Reactorex | AsaPhelps, the "Teams" game variant option doesn't work. |
| 20:58.31 | onetwo | im going to the grocery store and never coming back |
| 20:58.32 | Reactorex | Premade.. haven't screwed around with it. |
| 20:58.38 | Reactorex | But the other ones- |
| 20:58.47 | Reactorex | Those are what you want to specify if you want to choose which team a player is on. |
| 20:58.56 | Reactorex | At least, that's one way to forcei t in the lobby. |
| 20:59.02 | AsaPhelps | This is frustrating |
| 20:59.15 | Reactorex | Yep. |
| 20:59.16 | AsaPhelps | You know your map is causing problems when people make multiple forum posts about it D: |
| 20:59.21 | CorneliusFlope | ASAPHELPHS |
| 20:59.25 | AsaPhelps | CORNELIUS |
| 20:59.29 | AsaPhelps | MY COLORS HAVE BETRAYED ME |
| 20:59.37 | CorneliusFlope | i i need to tell u something |
| 20:59.37 | CorneliusFlope | ok |
| 20:59.39 | CorneliusFlope | every time |
| 20:59.40 | Reactorex | AsaPhelps! |
| 20:59.42 | CorneliusFlope | i join ur game |
| 20:59.45 | CorneliusFlope | both yesterday |
| 20:59.46 | CorneliusFlope | and today |
| 20:59.48 | Reactorex | My insanity has betrayed me. :< |
| 20:59.50 | CorneliusFlope | through multiple versions |
| 20:59.52 | AsaPhelps | The lobby times out |
| 20:59.53 | Liquidor | aww it didn't work :( |
| 20:59.55 | CorneliusFlope | my game freezes |
| 20:59.56 | AsaPhelps | And people are sad |
| 20:59.57 | Reactorex | Asa knows. o.o |
| 20:59.58 | CorneliusFlope | and i have d/c |
| 21:00.01 | AsaPhelps | It works |
| 21:00.02 | AsaPhelps | AT FIRST |
| 21:00.06 | AsaPhelps | WHICH MAKES IT EVEN MORE ANNOYING |
| 21:00.12 | AsaPhelps | Because I don't understand why it breaks |
| 21:00.22 | CorneliusFlope | U KNOW WHAT ELSE IS DUMB? |
| 21:00.27 | AsaPhelps | NOT THE COLORS |
| 21:00.29 | Reactorex | Liquidor, query me |
| 21:00.45 | CorneliusFlope | in the editor i goto manage files and I have 0, ZERO, 0, PUBLISHED MAPS, YET IT SAYS IM USING 42MB OF SPACE! |
| 21:00.51 | CorneliusFlope | SO I CANT PUBLISH MY NEW VERSION |
| 21:00.54 | AsaPhelps | WHY ARE YOU PUBLISHING SO MUCH PORN |
| 21:00.54 | CorneliusFlope | RAAAAAGGEEE |
| 21:00.57 | Reactorex | Cornelius, |
| 21:01.04 | Reactorex | All last night, I had a map on my published list. |
| 21:01.08 | Reactorex | I REMOVED THE DAMN THING TEN TIMES. |
| 21:01.10 | AsaPhelps | Okay |
| 21:01.12 | Reactorex | And it was STILL THERE. |
| 21:01.15 | CorneliusFlope | SAMEZIES! |
| 21:01.19 | AsaPhelps | How do I set up allies in triggers |
| 21:01.22 | Reactorex | Publishing is bugged to an extenet. |
| 21:01.22 | CorneliusFlope | EDITOR TEH SUX |
| 21:01.24 | Reactorex | extent* |
| 21:01.59 | CorneliusFlope | just glad to see that my completely broken map isnt in the top 10 maps anymore lol |
| 21:02.03 | CorneliusFlope | was sick of ragemail |
| 21:02.21 | Khono | lol@Cornelius |
| 21:02.27 | AsaPhelps | Go to the bottom of maps |
| 21:02.31 | AsaPhelps | I have like 10 versions of mine |
| 21:02.48 | CorneliusFlope | how does it let u upload that many? |
| 21:02.54 | CorneliusFlope | i have 0 uploaded and apparently thats too much space |
| 21:02.58 | CorneliusFlope | its because im white |
| 21:03.09 | AsaPhelps | Asians have unlimited space |
| 21:03.13 | CorneliusFlope | lol |
| 21:03.51 | AsaPhelps | So do I have to set up allies in team variants to host public custom games? |
| 21:03.56 | CorneliusFlope | i just wish it would let me upload so i could deal with the mandatory "get to 100% and then say defaults are invalid" and i have to fuck with my player settings until i can trick it to let me publish it |
| 21:04.41 | MrRoy | How can I make it so the last man standing wins? |
| 21:05.00 | CorneliusFlope | u can make a trigger from the default melee settings that does that |
| 21:05.17 | MrRoy | well I can't find anything in the like in events |
| 21:05.19 | CorneliusFlope | i hope the guy who made Battlecraft knows that he will never be able to get ppl to play a new version of his map lol |
| 21:05.43 | `3ICE | talked with him, he knows it |
| 21:05.48 | MrRoy | lol cornelius |
| 21:06.02 | MrRoy | unless he removes it |
| 21:06.11 | CorneliusFlope | then ppl will just play the next highest |
| 21:06.15 | MrRoy | lol |
| 21:06.17 | `3ICE | yup, bad idea |
| 21:06.19 | CorneliusFlope | starcraft 2 sheeple |
| 21:06.48 | `3ICE | those mindless sheep don't even know how to find a map, they jsut autoclick the first on the list |
| 21:07.04 | MrRoy | lawl |
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| 21:07.29 | `3ICE | is getting sleepy. |
| 21:07.50 | Reactorex | Okay, specifying just about anything under "Controller" will cause a corrupt header. |
| 21:07.58 | Reactorex | Computer and User both do. |
| 21:08.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ferr (Ferr@0x50a12f49.arcnxx9.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 21:10.29 | AsaPhelps | I've found that red, orange, and white/red/blue are the most popular map title colors |
| 21:10.53 | AsaPhelps | I don't think red/white/blue will work well outside US |
| 21:11.33 | MrRoy | Well scientifically talking, the human is more attracted by red products |
| 21:11.47 | MrRoy | but of course colored titles are mort attractive |
| 21:11.51 | AsaPhelps | Like bloody tampons? |
| 21:11.53 | MrRoy | more* |
| 21:11.57 | MrRoy | lol |
| 21:11.58 | onetwo | did someone say bloody tampons |
| 21:12.05 | AsaPhelps | Well I uploaded a new version with 0 changes |
| 21:12.14 | AsaPhelps | I assume that that fixes my problems |
| 21:12.19 | MrRoy | lol |
| 21:12.27 | AsaPhelps | I feel so special |
| 21:12.33 | AsaPhelps | Seems like only my map is broken |
| 21:12.34 | onetwo | oh and pretty funny right now general forums posts look like this: |
| 21:12.37 | MrRoy | man making waves is long |
| 21:12.45 | AsaPhelps | NERF ZERG |
| 21:12.45 | MrRoy | I've only done 4 right now but I don't feel like making 40-50 |
| 21:12.47 | AsaPhelps | NO NERF PROTOSS |
| 21:12.48 | onetwo | Charge a Fee for making Clans |
| 21:12.48 | onetwo | . Charge a free for charging a fee |
| 21:12.50 | AsaPhelps | NO NERF TERRAN |
| 21:12.56 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.59 | Cronos|Gone | NERF orcs! |
| 21:13.00 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:13.02 | Ferr | hi |
| 21:13.06 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.08 | Cronos|Gone | orcs beat terran toss and zerg |
| 21:13.15 | Reactorex | Charge a fee per char message. |
| 21:13.16 | onetwo | Charge a fee for ladder |
| 21:13.19 | Reactorex | chat* |
| 21:13.22 | onetwo | hahahha |
| 21:13.23 | wOlfLinG | Is there any way to turn off broodling explode sounds? The amount of broodlings dying pretty much at once is extremly annoying |
| 21:13.30 | onetwo | so many general forum posts about charging fees |
| 21:13.36 | onetwo | its actually kind of funny |
| 21:13.39 | onetwo | the forum crowd latches onto things |
| 21:13.41 | onetwo | like grimace |
| 21:13.56 | Cronos|Gone | its blizzards fault .. for putting game time expires message |
| 21:13.57 | onetwo | yeah mrroy it does take a while :D |
| 21:14.13 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/board.html?forumId=25352525&sid=5000 |
| 21:14.18 | onetwo | look at it, its like 50 charge a fee threads |
| 21:14.19 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 21:14.26 | Ferr | does anyone know if it's possible to have stacking inventory items? like you buy a stack of 2 potions, then buy another stack and it will stack in your inventory so that you have 4 potions in the same slot. |
| 21:14.32 | onetwo | yeah wolfling, i believe if you find the actor for broodling |
| 21:14.34 | Cronos|Gone | even if its only for russia ... all the wow kids freak out oh no we cant get mommy to pay to play 2 games |
| 21:14.37 | onetwo | or zerg unit death |
| 21:14.38 | onetwo | not sure |
| 21:14.58 | onetwo | not sure Ferr, that might be an RPG thing |
| 21:15.06 | onetwo | it wasnt in war3 but sc2 editor is more advanced |
| 21:15.08 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zealots-vs-predators/. Zealots vs. Predators. zakariahliklikleh (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 21:15.54 | onetwo | afk again |
| 21:15.56 | Bemoliph- | If items can have charges, I would look in that direction for stackable items |
| 21:16.17 | Ferr | yeah, i think it's possible to add charges to the item through triggers, but that's going to complex as i'd need a trigger for each stackable item and then make it add charges to already existing items, unless it goes over the max stack in which case it'd have to create a new item :S |
| 21:16.29 | CorneliusFlope | OH. |
| 21:16.35 | CorneliusFlope | my header is corrupt. |
| 21:16.36 | CorneliusFlope | well ok. |
| 21:16.41 | CorneliusFlope | hey reactorex |
| 21:16.50 | Bemoliph- | You shouldn't need a copy of the trigger for every single item |
| 21:17.19 | Bemoliph- | You just make a trigger that can handle it generically, based on the item you put into it |
| 21:17.21 | Reactorex | Mhm? |
| 21:17.31 | Bemoliph- | Just store the max stacks and such somewhere and have it look at that |
| 21:17.35 | Reactorex | And Bemo's right, Ferr. |
| 21:17.53 | Ferr | kay |
| 21:17.57 | Bemoliph- | If you have copies of mostly the same code, you're doing it wrong in almost every case |
| 21:18.01 | CorneliusFlope | reactorex |
| 21:18.03 | Reactorex | Items are a type of unit, right? |
| 21:18.05 | CorneliusFlope | didnt u have this same issue |
| 21:18.08 | Reactorex | Yes, I did. |
| 21:18.13 | CorneliusFlope | and how did u fix it |
| 21:18.15 | Reactorex | For, like 10 hours. |
| 21:18.18 | Reactorex | Over 2 and a half days. |
| 21:18.27 | Reactorex | I fixed it by breaking my back over trying to do it. |
| 21:18.34 | CorneliusFlope | my issue used to be invalid default values or w/e, which i had for like 3 hours and fixed by getting rid of some players |
| 21:18.37 | Ferr | i know copy code is bad :p that's why i was not doing it that way |
| 21:18.39 | Reactorex | Changed everything one by one. |
| 21:18.44 | CorneliusFlope | and what worked |
| 21:18.55 | Reactorex | It wasn't just one specific thing. |
| 21:19.01 | Reactorex | There are multiple things that you can't do. |
| 21:19.07 | CorneliusFlope | ugh |
| 21:19.26 | Reactorex | Query me up :P |
| 21:19.44 | CorneliusFlope | how |
| 21:19.59 | Reactorex | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.59 | wOlfLinG | :) Its working |
| 21:24.18 | wOlfLinG | Ive got a supply depot that spawns a broodling every 0.1 seconds |
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| 21:25.14 | wOlfLinG | Right, now i need another building idea |
| 21:25.42 | RickA | A tower that will shoot max HP buffs at allied units |
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| 21:27.08 | Liquidor | Point giving has begun for Eurovision |
| 21:27.17 | Liquidor | And Denmark ofc got top points from the first 2 voters |
| 21:27.20 | Liquidor | !! SCORE |
| 21:28.19 | Khono | A tower that does little damage on it's own but when it gets a killing blow it refills its energy and uses that energy to do much more damage. |
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| 21:34.31 | Alpha_vst | sexy |
| 21:36.28 | CorneliusFlope | ~ raingame |
| 21:36.34 | CorneliusFlope | ~seen raingame |
| 21:36.37 | purl | raingame <~nothing@adsl-99-185-123-13.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 6h 30m 17s ago, saying: 'god this system is annoying, its not going anywhere'. |
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| 21:36.46 | CorneliusFlope | ugh' |
| 21:37.08 | Cromalic | hey guys |
| 21:37.28 | Cromalic | how can i change the z position or height of an actor? |
| 21:37.32 | Cromalic | is it possible? |
| 21:38.49 | Reactorex | Of an actor? |
| 21:38.51 | Reactorex | Or the unit, too? |
| 21:39.53 | Cromalic | just the actor |
| 21:40.29 | Cromalic | i create a model (last created actor), and then i want to change its height |
| 21:43.19 | Martul | Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 21:43.24 | Cromalic | gets that not possible? |
| 21:43.25 | Cromalic | anyone? |
| 21:43.41 | Cromalic | how about this then |
| 21:43.53 | Cromalic | is it possible to kill a unit with a trigger, and use a certain death animation? |
| 21:43.54 | Skizot | yay martul! |
| 21:44.01 | CorneliusFlope | IS ANYONE HERE GOOD WITH SETTING UP GAME VARIANTS!!?!? |
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| 21:44.17 | Cromalic | cornelius, what do you need? |
| 21:44.18 | Xapti | cromalic yes i think so |
| 21:44.24 | Cromalic | xapti how! |
| 21:44.27 | Xapti | if you use send actor message i think |
| 21:44.33 | Cromalic | send actor message, hmmm |
| 21:44.37 | Cromalic | interesting! |
| 21:45.01 | Coolflip | oh god |
| 21:45.03 | Coolflip | whos martul |
| 21:45.04 | Coolflip | now |
| 21:45.05 | Xapti | there's probably other ways too, aside from having an invisable unit do it with their attack |
| 21:46.30 | Cromalic | well |
| 21:46.33 | Cromalic | what i do now is |
| 21:46.38 | Cromalic | create an actor at the position of the unit |
| 21:46.50 | Cromalic | and the actor = the model with the right death animation |
| 21:46.51 | Cromalic | then i kill it |
| 21:47.01 | Alpha_vst | how would i set up a and or condtion? |
| 21:47.01 | Cromalic | kind of a stupid way |
| 21:47.05 | Alpha_vst | its not triggering |
| 21:47.08 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 21:47.09 | onetwo | people might enjoy this read, whether or not its biased or anything |
| 21:47.09 | onetwo | its interesting |
| 21:47.10 | onetwo | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128252 |
| 21:47.13 | Alpha_vst | i have to be doing it wrong |
| 21:47.13 | onetwo | history of activision blizzard |
| 21:47.42 | CorneliusFlope | cromalic heres what i need done, me and reactorx are struggling with it. i have 8 players total in my map. 1-6 are actual people who will be playing. 7 and 8 are purely run by triggers, no AI needed, which is why when i run local games i set them as Hostile and it works fine, but it wont let me piblish like that i need to change them to computers. so i have 1-6 users, 7-8 computers. i meed the lobby to make sure no |
| 21:48.05 | Cromalic | hmmm |
| 21:48.20 | Cromalic | Xapti do you know how the way you described works exactly? |
| 21:48.34 | Cromalic | is it Send message to actor of unit ? |
| 21:48.48 | Xapti | that's what i'm thinking of yes |
| 21:48.56 | Alpha_vst | how do i set up a and or condition properly? |
| 21:49.03 | Cromalic | and what should the subname contain? |
| 21:49.32 | onetwo | afk |
| 21:50.08 | CorneliusFlope | cromalic? . |
| 21:50.48 | Ignorance | Hey guys |
| 21:50.54 | Ignorance | err |
| 21:50.56 | Ignorance | nevermind |
| 21:51.07 | Cromalic | reading cornelius |
| 21:51.49 | Cromalic | have you tried setting the user of those players to none? |
| 21:52.13 | Xapti | I'm not sure what to but in subname |
| 21:52.50 | Hati | new version of localizer :) with compression |
| 21:52.54 | Azu-zzz | depthsofchaos gratz on 2nd place btw :D |
| 21:53.12 | CorneliusFlope | no |
| 21:53.31 | Cromalic | CorneliusFlope, have you tried setting the users of 7 and 8 to none? |
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| 21:53.47 | Alpha_vst | how do i set up a and or properly :( |
| 21:53.50 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 21:53.53 | Alpha_vst | i cant get this to work |
| 21:53.54 | Cromalic | alpha |
| 21:53.55 | CorneliusFlope | not yet cromalic |
| 21:54.17 | heysparky | Alpha, the And holds the Or |
| 21:54.25 | Alpha_vst | i tried that |
| 21:54.47 | Cromalic | Alpha, basically using OR, only one condition in it has to be true |
| 21:54.56 | Cromalic | so if you have several conditions, and you only need 1 to be true |
| 21:55.01 | Cromalic | place all of them under the OR |
| 21:55.42 | Martul | Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 21:55.52 | Alpha_vst | omg shut up |
| 21:56.21 | Alpha_vst | go bitch to people who care |
| 21:57.07 | onetwo | martul, change up your phrase |
| 21:57.16 | onetwo | if its repetitive no one will listen |
| 21:57.30 | Martul | Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq.. |
| 21:57.34 | Martul | there happy |
| 21:57.37 | Martul | i added a . |
| 21:57.40 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 21:58.06 | Alpha_vst | blizzard doesnt care what you suggest to them even more so in here |
| 21:58.18 | onetwo | good enough |
| 21:58.32 | wOlfLinG | Im trying to give a sensor tower the ability to heal life and shields by sacrificing its own. However, even when allowed to use on non-biological units, i doesnt auto use it, or use it when i tell it to |
| 21:58.40 | onetwo | but the real task is remembering to do it every time |
| 21:58.40 | Skizot | http://i50.tinypic.com/2irq23s.jpg |
| 21:58.46 | Alpha_vst | and you can override files in the mpq... but im not starting this again |
| 21:58.47 | Skizot | anything NOT clear about that? |
| 21:58.59 | Hati | Skizot: what happens on W ? |
| 21:59.05 | Skizot | nothing. |
| 21:59.16 | Skizot | but i DID forget to put in the spacebar jumps. |
| 21:59.16 | Hati | that's lame. |
| 21:59.28 | Hati | let him dance on w |
| 21:59.37 | Alpha_vst | should jump on w |
| 21:59.47 | heysparky | Alphe, working yet? |
| 21:59.49 | Skizot | dude.. i have big head mode. |
| 21:59.52 | heysparky | e = a |
| 21:59.56 | Skizot | that's BETTER than dance. |
| 21:59.59 | Alpha_vst | no its not :P |
| 22:00.14 | Hati | big head dance mode > big head |
| 22:00.21 | heysparky | is it working if you get rid of one piece or the other? |
| 22:00.23 | Xapti | Cromalic, |
| 22:00.33 | Xapti | use create model at point |
| 22:00.41 | Xapti | and remove the unit |
| 22:00.42 | Alpha_vst | idono :P |
| 22:00.46 | Hati | hmm Prototype was the last activision game i enjoyed :x |
| 22:02.01 | onetwo | yeah Martul, according to several people here you can override |
| 22:02.02 | Xapti | or use actorMessage model swap |
| 22:02.06 | onetwo | your sclayout file has to be correct though |
| 22:02.07 | onetwo | and right path |
| 22:02.11 | onetwo | which they said you may have wrong |
| 22:02.18 | onetwo | but you wont tell us much more |
| 22:02.22 | onetwo | so were at a block where we can help you |
| 22:02.30 | onetwo | you seem to have a secret project that will never get done because you cant work on it |
| 22:02.38 | onetwo | yet you cant tell us what it is or let us know more to help you |
| 22:02.43 | onetwo | so its a never ending loop |
| 22:03.01 | Xapti | got it Cromalic? |
| 22:03.05 | Ignorance | Could you guys tell Tehwildcard to check his email when he gets back? |
| 22:03.15 | Cromalic | model swap |
| 22:03.16 | Cromalic | hmm |
| 22:03.18 | Cromalic | looking into it |
| 22:03.28 | Ignorance | if he comes back in the next several hours |
| 22:03.34 | Skizot | also Hati |
| 22:03.41 | Skizot | you CAN just type /dance |
| 22:03.44 | Skizot | it DOES work. |
| 22:03.45 | Ignorance | I sent him the latest copy of sentry scramble. |
| 22:03.46 | Skizot | lol |
| 22:03.49 | Hati | but |
| 22:03.56 | Hati | I want dance on W :( |
| 22:03.56 | Skizot | BUT NOTHING |
| 22:04.06 | Ignorance | There's an FFA only one out right now, but this fixes the issues with team so everything works, also things look cooler |
| 22:04.14 | Ignorance | It's on page 3ish |
| 22:04.15 | Xapti | anyone know if you can disable the existing default hotkeys in the game |
| 22:04.30 | Xapti | such as backspace changing bases, spacebar going to hte most recent action, |
| 22:04.40 | Xapti | right click auto-command, etc |
| 22:05.10 | Cromalic | Xapti it didn't work :( |
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| 22:05.36 | Xapti | did you try just removing hte model and creating model at point |
| 22:05.39 | Xapti | might work better |
| 22:05.53 | Xapti | might also have to play animation after the model is made, not sure |
| 22:06.01 | Cromalic | nah you don't have to |
| 22:06.05 | Cromalic | you just kill the actor |
| 22:06.09 | Cromalic | plays the death animation |
| 22:06.10 | Cromalic | but |
| 22:06.15 | Cromalic | the problem is |
| 22:06.21 | Cromalic | i want to change the position of the actor |
| 22:06.28 | Cromalic | as the death animation is being displayed |
| 22:06.37 | Cromalic | which is why i want to tie it to the unit |
| 22:06.42 | Cromalic | so that i can just change the position of the unit |
| 22:06.54 | Cromalic | because you can't change the position of just an actor model :( |
| 22:06.55 | wOlfLinG | Can someone take a look at my map/ My Healing Tower isnt working >< |
| 22:07.28 | SevenSeven | wow |
| 22:07.42 | SevenSeven | Anyone know why my Galaxy Editor's Framerate just dropped 450 frames? |
| 22:07.54 | SevenSeven | When I raise or lower terrain now it drops to 7 FPS. :| |
| 22:08.45 | Alpha_vst | I KNOW WHATS WRONG :D |
| 22:08.49 | Alpha_vst | now to fix it |
| 22:09.13 | wOlfLinG | My maps uploaded here: http://www.filefront.com/16589737/Psilent%20Death.SC2Map I really have no idea whats wrong :/ (its no-where near finished yet btw) |
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| 22:09.35 | ekcolnovkol^ | someone is using my nick? |
| 22:09.49 | ekcolnovkol^ | oh |
| 22:09.51 | ekcolnovkol^ | i am retarded |
| 22:10.04 | Bemoliph- | SevenSeven: The selection circles/squares in GE murder your FPS when they get generated |
| 22:10.05 | ekcolnovkol | <_< |
| 22:10.21 | Bemoliph- | Probably related, if not the same thing |
| 22:10.34 | Dustin | How the hell do I set teams correctly |
| 22:11.55 | wOlfLinG | Hows this for a line of text at the beginning of my map: Logic is over-rated. Terran mech is not. Try to prove us wrong >:] |
| 22:13.40 | Alpha_vst | GOT IT TO WORK :D |
| 22:14.10 | heysparky | braggart |
| 22:14.23 | heysparky | :) |
| 22:14.30 | SevenSeven | @bemo: any way to turn that off? |
| 22:14.36 | Bemoliph- | Not that I know of |
| 22:14.44 | Bemoliph- | I doubt it |
| 22:14.55 | Bemoliph- | I'm talking about the green lines when you drag to select and such |
| 22:15.09 | SevenSeven | oh |
| 22:15.11 | SevenSeven | no it's weird |
| 22:15.18 | SevenSeven | only for making cliffs |
| 22:15.19 | Skizot | US PEOPLE |
| 22:15.26 | Skizot | new version of terran conflict up. |
| 22:15.27 | Bemoliph- | Not sure how they made it so awful for drawing them, but that's how it is |
| 22:15.28 | Skizot | try it. |
| 22:15.31 | SevenSeven | I've still got 400FPS when I select 255+ dts in the editor lol |
| 22:15.43 | Skizot | send thoughts etc to #terranconflict |
| 22:15.56 | Bemoliph- | Yeah, it's only when the selection circles/squares are being generated or resized |
| 22:16.02 | Bemoliph- | After they get made, then the FPS is fine |
| 22:16.09 | SevenSeven | hm |
| 22:16.13 | Bemoliph- | But say you are dragging the selection box |
| 22:16.15 | SevenSeven | no idea what's wrong =\ |
| 22:16.17 | Bemoliph- | That will mess it up badly until you stop moving |
| 22:17.13 | Bemoliph- | Anyways, just a similar thing I noticed and know other people have issues with |
| 22:17.19 | Bemoliph- | Not exactly sure if it's the same thing as your problem |
| 22:17.29 | Bemoliph- | Just the first thing that came to mind for me |
| 22:17.30 | wOlfLinG | No-ones going to help me fix mah map? That makes me saaaad ;_; |
| 22:18.05 | RickAx | wolf, what's up? |
| 22:18.20 | Reactorex | Update for ya'll. |
| 22:18.22 | ekcolnovkol | the sky o.o |
| 22:18.54 | Reactorex | (Game) Teams under variants DOES work if you use Custom Teams. 2 Teams seems to corrupt it. I assume it's the same for 3 teams, etc. |
| 22:19.07 | wOlfLinG | Well, my Healing Tower in my TD/ DotA mix wont heal. At all. I have no idea whats wrong. Its uploaded here: http://www.filefront.com/16589737/Psilent%20Death.SC2Map |
| 22:19.16 | wOlfLinG | Although its nowhere near finished yet |
| 22:19.28 | Reactorex | Controller will corrupt the header if you use anything except (None) or Open. |
| 22:21.04 | RickAx | Wolf, what unit is the ability on? |
| 22:21.06 | Reactorex | What do you use to heal? |
| 22:21.19 | wOlfLinG | The unit is a building |
| 22:21.29 | wOlfLinG | It looks like a sensor tower, but isnt |
| 22:21.37 | wOlfLinG | And should heal most units |
| 22:21.49 | RickAx | There isn't one placed in the copy I have |
| 22:22.02 | heysparky | Can someone explain the LOS blockers to me? I don't get how to use them. |
| 22:22.10 | Reactorex | They block LOS. |
| 22:22.13 | Reactorex | LOS = line of sight. |
| 22:22.18 | Reactorex | But you can walk through them. |
| 22:22.41 | wOlfLinG | RickAx, what do you mean there isnt one placed? |
| 22:22.42 | heysparky | Hmmm... I added the ones as doodads that don't say LOS and Pathing and they're blocking pathing |
| 22:22.58 | RickAx | I see 1 archon and 3 supply depots |
| 22:23.06 | wOlfLinG | Ya, the archon builds it |
| 22:23.08 | heysparky | nope, I'm a doofus |
| 22:23.14 | heysparky | I added the pathing and LOS blocker |
| 22:23.20 | Reactorex | XD |
| 22:23.29 | heysparky | now... for them to obscure LOS... do they have to be a solid wall? |
| 22:24.01 | Reactorex | That's dependent upon how you want to use them. |
| 22:24.02 | Skizot | Reactorex |
| 22:24.03 | Bemoliph- | Those Trees/Mega Tall Grass aren't solid |
| 22:24.06 | Bemoliph- | So no |
| 22:24.07 | Skizot | did you even try the map? |
| 22:24.26 | Bemoliph- | In normal SC2, I mean, usually near the Watch Towers |
| 22:24.30 | Reactorex | Terran Conflict? |
| 22:25.01 | heysparky | I'm trying to combine spaceplat LOS blocking wiht invisible LOS blocking because that much smoke makes my eyes water. Allergies, you know. |
| 22:25.13 | Reactorex | Skizot: you mean Terran Conflict? |
| 22:26.09 | Reactorex | heysparky, just let them snap to grid. |
| 22:26.23 | Reactorex | Use one at a time on each grid square blocking off whatever you want to block off with LOS blocking. |
| 22:27.14 | heysparky | it's diagonal, so they don't sit nice. BUT... I was a doof and used pathing blockers... but there AREN'T and just LOS blockers that don't have art... so I'm gonna un-artify one from a tileset I'm not using. |
| 22:27.22 | heysparky | take THAT Korhal LOS blocker! |
| 22:27.29 | heysparky | and thanks Reactor |
| 22:27.38 | RickAx | Wolf, what about the ability doesn't work? |
| 22:27.49 | RickAx | I can't figure out how to injure units |
| 22:27.57 | wOlfLinG | So managed to build something yet RickAx? :) |
| 22:28.01 | RickAx | yes |
| 22:28.05 | Reactorex | heysparky, if they don't sit nice, you can use shift+click to make it less of a visual eyesore. |
| 22:28.19 | Reactorex | Then just space them however you want. |
| 22:28.29 | Reactorex | But you don't need them insanely close together. |
| 22:28.43 | RickAx | Wolf, what doesn't it heal? |
| 22:28.58 | wOlfLinG | Well, aclick on the Archon with the spawning broodlings and they will attack it. When hes down to just some health, it should heal, but it doesnt |
| 22:28.58 | heysparky | aaaahhhh.... SHIFT+CLICK... I've been double clicking to get in there and toggle Ignore Placement Off... holy crap, you just saved me a lot of time. |
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| 22:28.59 | RickAx | get healed, I mean |
| 22:29.03 | Reactorex | One for each grid square you want to block off is enough. More if you want it to fit better for your angles/visual side. |
| 22:29.12 | Reactorex | Hehehe. |
| 22:29.13 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 22:29.17 | RickAx | Wolf, read the heal ability |
| 22:29.19 | wOlfLinG | It should heal structures and all units |
| 22:29.21 | Reactorex | ctrl+click = lock to grid. |
| 22:29.21 | RickAx | And then tell me what you read |
| 22:29.22 | Skizot | yes i mean terran conflict |
| 22:29.27 | Reactorex | shift+click = ignore placement. |
| 22:29.39 | Reactorex | click = normal. |
| 22:29.47 | wOlfLinG | Are you meaning the tooltip? |
| 22:30.04 | Reactorex | ctrl+right-click while items are selected: face point, I think |
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| 22:30.13 | RickAx | nevermind, ignore me |
| 22:30.18 | heysparky | doh |
| 22:30.22 | Reactorex | shift+right-click while items are selected, move to point. |
| 22:30.26 | Martul | Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 22:30.34 | Martul | its a big nasty limit blizzard placed on modders |
| 22:30.40 | Reactorex | I play around with modifiers a lot. :> |
| 22:30.46 | Reactorex | But I forget which does what pretty easily. xD |
| 22:30.47 | heysparky | good grief Martul, seriously |
| 22:30.51 | wOlfLinG | Yes Martul. Of course. Now just take your medication and go back to sleep |
| 22:31.00 | Reactorex | heysparky, /ignore Martul |
| 22:31.04 | Reactorex | Helps me. :> |
| 22:31.16 | Martul | Blizzard is just stupid |
| 22:31.25 | onetwo | oh blayzin what was it you wanted |
| 22:31.26 | heysparky | Yeah..! They ARE! Martul, you're right! |
| 22:31.28 | onetwo | a few days ago |
| 22:31.30 | Reactorex | An ignored troll is a useless troll. |
| 22:31.31 | heysparky | How did I not see it!? |
| 22:31.44 | onetwo | before your other name got kicked or w/e |
| 22:31.44 | Skizot | martul if you say that ONE MORE FUCKING TIME i will have you banned for a day. |
| 22:31.50 | Reactorex | Let me fix that: |
| 22:31.56 | Reactorex | An ignored troll is an ineffective troll. |
| 22:31.59 | Reactorex | A troll is already useless |
| 22:32.04 | heysparky | lol |
| 22:32.05 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 22:32.10 | heysparky | sorry, didn't mean to feed |
| 22:32.17 | Reactorex | Martul = useless + ineffective. :> |
| 22:32.25 | Reactorex | Ignore is your friend. ^^ |
| 22:32.37 | Martul | Sadly, blizzard never listens to modders |
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| 22:33.26 | ekcolnovkol | hey |
| 22:33.46 | ekcolnovkol | anyone know how CWeapon_DamagePoint is used |
| 22:33.58 | ekcolnovkol | i assume the value is just damage/100 |
| 22:34.09 | ekcolnovkol | so roaches deal around 16 damage, and the value is 0.167 |
| 22:34.21 | ekcolnovkol | is that right? or is it for something else |
| 22:34.23 | Martul | Blizzard didn't ever listen to modders back in WC3 they won't now either |
| 22:34.24 | Skizot | yeah |
| 22:34.27 | Skizot | that's right |
| 22:34.37 | ekcolnovkol | why do they do the value that way o.0 |
| 22:34.44 | Skizot | martul, they love modders. they hate you. |
| 22:34.53 | heysparky | Skiz, don't feed the troll |
| 22:34.54 | ekcolnovkol | blizzard loves me :> |
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| 22:35.05 | JCup | Hey guys |
| 22:35.08 | ekcolnovkol | but i doesn't love them back :u |
| 22:35.10 | ekcolnovkol | that would be dangerous |
| 22:35.12 | heysparky | Howdy Jcup |
| 22:35.18 | nicoli_s | i mean with how much you an do with this editor, i dont think you can say blizz doesnt listen to modders |
| 22:35.24 | JCup | Wusuppp Sparky |
| 22:35.38 | Martul | Blizzard goes and prevents us from using imports to override files in the mpq. So stupid. limits modders big time. |
| 22:35.51 | onetwo | doesnt really limit me |
| 22:35.52 | heysparky | nicoli, don't feed the troll |
| 22:35.57 | onetwo | modders shoudl be able to go above and beyond |
| 22:35.58 | heysparky | I should make a macro |
| 22:36.00 | onetwo | from what ive seen |
| 22:36.04 | onetwo | they always figure a way to do things |
| 22:36.11 | nicoli_s | exactly |
| 22:36.11 | onetwo | and as a mapper, i loev this editor |
| 22:36.14 | onetwo | good upgrade from war3 |
| 22:36.19 | nicoli_s | i mean we were doing mods back before there was a GE |
| 22:36.27 | Skizot | BOOYA |
| 22:36.30 | nicoli_s | if we wanted to figure out how to do something we fucked with it till it worked |
| 22:36.37 | Skizot | we were doing mods before there war a warcraft3 |
| 22:36.37 | ekcolnovkol | CWeapon_Period is the weapon speed in seconds right? |
| 22:36.38 | nicoli_s | or made apps to do what we want to do |
| 22:36.40 | Skizot | right nic? |
| 22:36.43 | Skizot | lol |
| 22:36.44 | Martul | onetwo, tell me then. how can you do something that can only be done by overriding a mpq file? |
| 22:36.48 | nicoli_s | hell yeah editing those motherfucking slks |
| 22:36.49 | ekcolnovkol | skizot :u |
| 22:36.54 | Martul | you can't |
| 22:36.54 | ekcolnovkol | <3 |
| 22:36.54 | onetwo | well you wont tell us your whole story |
| 22:37.00 | Skizot | slks fo lyfe son. |
| 22:37.02 | onetwo | so i cant offer alternatives |
| 22:37.07 | onetwo | but plenty of people here have offered |
| 22:37.08 | ekcolnovkol | CWeapon_Period is the weapon speed in seconds right? |
| 22:37.10 | ekcolnovkol | D: |
| 22:37.10 | onetwo | even without knowing what youre making |
| 22:37.14 | onetwo | other than "sc2layout" |
| 22:37.29 | Martul | i already told you, i need to be able to override files in the mpq |
| 22:37.33 | ekcolnovkol | q_q |
| 22:37.41 | Skizot | why |
| 22:37.42 | onetwo | are you sure youre not just doing it wrong? |
| 22:37.45 | onetwo | 100% sure? |
| 22:37.54 | onetwo | because a lot of times things were changed with regards to war3 |
| 22:37.58 | onetwo | and how things were done back then |
| 22:38.14 | Martul | I've tried importing the file many different ways and none of them work |
| 22:38.33 | onetwo | and unfortunately i cant help you with importing but others perhaps can |
| 22:38.44 | onetwo | and if you like opened up a bit |
| 22:38.49 | onetwo | and showed us the exact file |
| 22:38.50 | onetwo | map |
| 22:38.51 | onetwo | etc |
| 22:38.52 | onetwo | we can help |
| 22:38.55 | onetwo | no one is going to steal your map |
| 22:38.55 | Skizot | martul. |
| 22:39.01 | Skizot | send me your sclayout |
| 22:39.05 | Skizot | i'll get it working. |
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| 22:39.12 | Martul | I've tried Base.SC2Data/UI/Layout/UI/ |
| 22:39.14 | Martul | Base.SC2Data/UI/Layout/UI |
| 22:39.18 | Martul | UI/Layout/UI/ |
| 22:39.21 | onetwo | its like hollywood scripts, every crappy new writer thinks people will steal their script... no one cares |
| 22:39.29 | onetwo | just give it to skizot |
| 22:39.32 | onetwo | hes nice enough to help |
| 22:39.32 | Martul | none of those work |
| 22:39.51 | Martul | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.57 | Martul | not even that works |
| 22:40.05 | heysparky | not even that?! |
| 22:40.05 | Skizot | send me the file. |
| 22:40.13 | Skizot | and i will send you a working map. |
| 22:40.32 | heysparky | do it, please, for the love of all that is holy |
| 22:40.46 | heysparky | and put us out of your misery |
| 22:40.53 | onetwo | Martul were a team here |
| 22:40.56 | onetwo | if you give us some slack |
| 22:40.58 | onetwo | we'll help you |
| 22:41.03 | onetwo | and hopefully all maps prosper |
| 22:41.21 | heysparky | that was more nicely said than I managed, onetwo :) |
| 22:41.22 | heysparky | props |
| 22:41.29 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:41.57 | Dustin | I need a Data editor guru |
| 22:42.27 | Skizot | dustin! |
| 22:42.30 | onetwo | i REALLY liked that they changed experience rquired in veterancy |
| 22:42.33 | Skizot | new version of ma map up. |
| 22:42.34 | onetwo | to be the amount to next level |
| 22:42.36 | onetwo | rather than total |
| 22:42.43 | Dustin | Woot wahtd ya fix |
| 22:42.50 | Martul | http://www.mediafire.com/?1oezujzznmu |
| 22:42.50 | Skizot | lots of crap. |
| 22:42.52 | Martul | http://www.mediafire.com/?1oezujzznmu |
| 22:42.52 | Skizot | :D |
| 22:43.09 | Martul | there |
| 22:43.14 | wOlfLinG | So got any further with that map RickAx? |
| 22:43.17 | Dustin | ima play it then! |
| 22:43.21 | RickAx | looking, but nope |
| 22:43.21 | Skizot | you even NAMED it mpq overriding test? |
| 22:43.48 | Dustin | Anyone know where Id change an ability to be instant and not require facing |
| 22:43.58 | Martul | yes |
| 22:44.09 | Martul | as that was the purpose of the map |
| 22:44.28 | wOlfLinG | Make the ability Effect-Instant |
| 22:44.34 | wOlfLinG | Rather than whatever it was then |
| 22:45.06 | JCup | oh RickAx did u ever get backstab through data editor? |
| 22:45.19 | RickAx | Nope |
| 22:45.24 | RickAx | Gave up, did it with triggers |
| 22:45.25 | nicoli_s | yo zoxc |
| 22:45.35 | RickAx | Learning isn't worth that much time |
| 22:45.36 | onetwo | thx martul |
| 22:45.37 | onetwo | gl skizot |
| 22:45.50 | Skizot | what did you change martul? |
| 22:46.01 | Dustin | Id there a function to check if a number is posative or negative? |
| 22:46.03 | JCup | I played with it for a long time x.x the flaw is that the arcs wont rotate when using location arc and enumerate area x.x |
| 22:46.34 | Martul | under <Frame type="MessageDisplay" name="ChatDisplay"> for <MaxMessages val="0"/> |
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| 22:46.46 | Martul | normally 68 |
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| 22:46.53 | JCup | they are static so when I attacked from a 270 angle on the unit it wouldnt get backstabbed but when i attack from 90 it would get backstabbed |
| 22:47.05 | JCup | So it was dumb x.x |
| 22:47.13 | AsaPhelps | what map Jcup? |
| 22:47.43 | onetwo | dustin id just |
| 22:47.46 | onetwo | do an if statement |
| 22:47.50 | onetwo | less < 0 |
| 22:47.50 | onetwo | err |
| 22:47.52 | onetwo | < 0 |
| 22:48.58 | Reactorex | Nice, onetwo. :P |
| 22:48.58 | RickAx | I can't figure it out, wolf. |
| 22:49.01 | Reactorex | less < 0 |
| 22:49.13 | onetwo | haha |
| 22:49.19 | Reactorex | And yeah.. I use that to check pos/neg all the time. |
| 22:49.33 | RickAx | JCup, I had a possible solution to that |
| 22:49.49 | Reactorex | I'm checking veeeery often for my map. |
| 22:49.53 | RickAx | Use a combine validator, and negate it |
| 22:50.05 | RickAx | That's as far as I got before giving up |
| 22:50.11 | JCup | but that doesnt solve it |
| 22:50.24 | JCup | cuz the arc is static |
| 22:50.37 | JCup | it wont follow the units facing |
| 22:50.52 | JCup | it basicly went on angles of the map |
| 22:51.19 | JCup | and so if u attack upward it would work and if you attacked downward it wouldnt |
| 22:52.03 | RickAx | Oh, I get it. |
| 22:52.23 | RickAx | Yeah, I'll look into again in like a month, but for now I have it working with triggers and I'm focusing on thinking up new abilities to code. |
| 22:53.21 | Dustin | Ok so |
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| 22:53.22 | Dustin | If I were to make an ability that was instant and didnt require facing...what would I change on Maraders force field ability? |
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| 22:54.32 | AsaPhelps | maraders force field? |
| 22:54.39 | heysparky | Hmmm... does that ability have a Search, Dustin? |
| 22:54.40 | Dustin | Ermd |
| 22:54.42 | AsaPhelps | you mean sentry? |
| 22:54.43 | Dustin | Sentrys |
| 22:54.50 | Dustin | No |
| 22:55.00 | AsaPhelps | so you want the forcefield on the sentry when its cast? |
| 22:55.10 | Dustin | I just want an instinatnious ability that doesnt require the unit to stop and face the point |
| 22:55.22 | Dustin | No |
| 22:55.34 | Dustin | I want An instant - Where I clicked- Ability |
| 22:56.03 | heysparky | hmm... I don't know what would govern that... |
| 22:56.04 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 22:56.17 | AsaPhelps | if you spawn a unit at a target point does that require facing? |
| 22:56.33 | JCup | Uhm making your effect instant spell transient wont stop the unit |
| 22:56.48 | JCup | Dustin |
| 22:57.01 | JCup | oh but u want it to face |
| 22:57.03 | JCup | D: |
| 22:57.08 | Dustin | no |
| 22:57.08 | JCup | dont* |
| 22:57.13 | JCup | My bad typo |
| 22:57.19 | Dustin | ya no facing |
| 22:57.24 | Dustin | No messing with the unit at all |
| 22:57.30 | RickAx | Dustin |
| 22:57.34 | JCup | What if u used an effect instant spell that spawned a dummy |
| 22:57.36 | RickAx | Give the ability an arc of 360 |
| 22:57.40 | JCup | that casted a effect target |
| 22:57.44 | JCup | or that haha |
| 22:57.48 | RickAx | If it has a 360 arc, it'll never turn |
| 22:57.51 | JCup | RickAx is smart :D |
| 22:58.21 | JCup | and just make the effect target spell transient :3 |
| 22:58.26 | Martul | ... |
| 22:58.29 | JCup | so it doesnt stop |
| 22:58.38 | Dustin | sweet time to test it out |
| 22:59.09 | heysparky | If I wnat to remove the pathingblocking-ness of the pathing and sight blockers, what might I get rid of to do so? |
| 22:59.25 | heysparky | footprint? |
| 22:59.46 | SevenSeven | I think so. |
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| 23:01.08 | ekcolnovkol | you could also use random point in region |
| 23:01.39 | heysparky | ... |
| 23:01.42 | Martul | ... |
| 23:01.52 | heysparky | do LOS blockers not work in cinematic mode? |
| 23:02.08 | ekcolnovkol | not u |
| 23:02.09 | ekcolnovkol | <_< |
| 23:02.33 | nicoli_s | anyone else in here use Linq with C#? |
| 23:03.02 | nicoli_s | finally using it in MWE and loving it |
| 23:04.05 | wOlfLinG | Whats Linq? |
| 23:04.34 | JCup | I dont they do heysparky cuz doesnt fog of war go away when in cinimatic mode? I could be wrong :D |
| 23:04.54 | nicoli_s | wOlfLinG:its a way to query for data similar to a DB, but using regular .net objects |
| 23:04.56 | Skizot | martul. you might have to do it in a mod. |
| 23:05.02 | Sixen | ~seen onetwo |
| 23:05.04 | purl | onetwo is currently on #sc2mapster (3h 51m 11s). Has said a total of 357 messages. Is idling for 15m 51s, last said: 'haha'. |
| 23:05.11 | Skizot | that and gameui MIGHT not be referenced. |
| 23:05.24 | Martul | ??? |
| 23:05.27 | nicoli_s | so i can take what used to be like a 6 or 7 line function and turn it into one with linq |
| 23:05.43 | onetwo | wha |
| 23:05.47 | Sixen | o= |
| 23:06.14 | heysparky | can I override the fog dealio... looking at triggers... |
| 23:06.20 | nicoli_s | should have better auto completion working with MWE shortly |
| 23:06.30 | nicoli_s | also, sixen, check out the newest MWE update, fancy terrain |
| 23:06.37 | Sixen | grabbing it now |
| 23:06.38 | Sixen | :P |
| 23:06.47 | Skizot | fancy terrain? |
| 23:07.18 | nicoli_s | it has sholdaks terrain renderer in it |
| 23:07.34 | Skizot | screenie |
| 23:07.37 | nicoli_s | can do the terrain texturing near perfect hes still working on the height maps scale and such |
| 23:08.28 | nicoli_s | im going to be working on actual placement of the units here soon |
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| 23:11.26 | nicoli_s | oh sixen, im going to blizzcon this year, how bout you? |
| 23:11.37 | Skizot | TAKE ME TOO |
| 23:11.59 | nicoli_s | well im only going cuz curse is paying for some |
| 23:12.03 | nicoli_s | thank od |
| 23:12.05 | nicoli_s | god* |
| 23:12.10 | nicoli_s | and we are like tripling up on rooms |
| 23:12.19 | nicoli_s | i dont give a fuck bout sleeping on the floor |
| 23:12.45 | Martul | just placed the sc2layout in a mod and it still won't override |
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| 23:13.24 | No_Roo | hey guys |
| 23:13.44 | Sixen | yes, nic |
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| 23:14.09 | Sixen | did you hear anything from curse about it yet? |
| 23:14.21 | Martul | Looks like I'm still right. Can't override files in the mpqs |
| 23:14.29 | nicoli_s | sixen:whalen said theyd pay for our tickets, at least in our office, nd maybe some of our room |
| 23:14.58 | Sixen | Awesome. |
| 23:15.04 | Sixen | Dono said Blizz was paying for me. |
| 23:15.32 | Martul | Blizzard, Nice epic fail |
| 23:15.50 | Sixen | Martul, why do you need to replace something in the MPQ? |
| 23:16.09 | Martul | to change the file |
| 23:16.13 | Sixen | For what? |
| 23:16.29 | onetwo | we went over it with him |
| 23:16.30 | Martul | to edit things the editor can't actually do |
| 23:16.32 | onetwo | skizot was going to do it |
| 23:16.57 | onetwo | but was unsuccessful |
| 23:17.04 | Sixen | I'm pretty sure you *can* though Martul |
| 23:17.08 | Sixen | We did it befor eGE was released. |
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| 23:17.21 | Sixen | Look up MapsterTD or our Tutorial Map on sc2mapster |
| 23:17.21 | Martul | nope, i've tried many many times in both a map and mod |
| 23:17.23 | Skizot | he doesn't want to edit the local mpq. |
| 23:17.23 | Sixen | see hwo we did it |
| 23:17.27 | Reactorex | Blayzin's just being an idiot. |
| 23:17.29 | Sixen | We had our own Base folder |
| 23:17.43 | Skizot | base foler huh... |
| 23:17.54 | Reactorex | He's been QQing about it for a week. |
| 23:17.56 | Sixen | Mhmm. |
| 23:18.24 | Martul | I'm not actually overwriting the mpq. just using imports to force mine to load instead of blizzard's |
| 23:19.05 | Skizot | no dice. |
| 23:19.06 | Skizot | lol |
| 23:19.32 | Reactorex | Then overwrite the map file data via an MPQ editor instead of using imports in the map editor. |
| 23:19.36 | Sixen | Find out MapsterTD or tutorial map |
| 23:19.40 | Sixen | Look how we did oit |
| 23:19.57 | Martul | the file is in the MPQs not the map itselfs |
| 23:20.03 | Martul | like Base.SC2Data |
| 23:20.20 | Reactorex | Then look at the tutorial map or the MapsterTD |
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| 23:20.41 | Martul | i just searched for MapsterTD and get Micro Defense map |
| 23:21.09 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mapstertd |
| 23:21.11 | Sixen | see if that works |
| 23:21.39 | Martul | No results found. |
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| 23:23.02 | heysparky | must not be there then |
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| 23:26.56 | Martul | damn blizzard |
| 23:27.46 | Skizot | it IS possible martul |
| 23:27.56 | Martul | then HOW |
| 23:27.57 | Skizot | we just have to figure out the path at which they need to be. |
| 23:28.01 | AsaPhelps | Anyone have any idea how to redirect a missie attack if the target dies? |
| 23:28.16 | AsaPhelps | Like if you shoot 100 missiles, and the target dies after 50, how do you make the other 50 go to another target |
| 23:28.16 | Martul | I've tried every possible path. even went with no path |
| 23:28.25 | Skizot | just calm down. |
| 23:28.36 | Skizot | i'm working on it and i'm going to figure it out. |
| 23:28.47 | Skizot | and you can VERY easily clear the chat box with a trigger |
| 23:29.00 | Skizot | fyi |
| 23:29.25 | Martul | yes you can but ever doing that you still can see it popup on the screen |
| 23:29.30 | Martul | even* |
| 23:30.06 | Martul | i had a trigger that every 0.01 secs cleared chat messages and i could see them for a small sec |
| 23:30.21 | Motive | then mod the UI |
| 23:31.14 | Skizot | when i FIND the fucking import path i'll REMOVE the chatbox. |
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| 23:31.43 | onetwo | OMGOMGOMGOGM |
| 23:31.44 | onetwo | im so happy |
| 23:31.48 | onetwo | veterancy levels can be copy pasted |
| 23:31.51 | onetwo | yayyyyyyyyy |
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| 23:34.26 | heysparky | Martul needs a hug. Gloomygus. |
| 23:35.07 | fatal510 | How do you edit the bounds on the map? |
| 23:35.15 | heysparky | Map > Map Bounds |
| 23:35.38 | heysparky | if you mean with triggers... I'd like to know, using the set playable triggers causes a hang on my machine |
| 23:35.51 | Skizot | Blizzard needs to give us the ability to use imports to override files in the mpq. |
| 23:35.54 | fatal510 | im talking about like painting bounds with a brush like in the wc3 editor |
| 23:35.57 | Skizot | its a big nasty limit blizzard placed on modders |
| 23:36.02 | heysparky | ohgod |
| 23:36.06 | heysparky | it's contagious!! |
| 23:36.12 | fatal510 | ? |
| 23:36.19 | Skizot | resistance is futile. |
| 23:36.25 | Xapti | Hey billy-bob, bet I can round up more zerglings than you can. |
| 23:36.29 | heysparky | fatal, there's a running mope about mpq sometihng or other |
| 23:36.56 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 23:37.04 | onetwo | i thought i helped martul by linking him to skizot |
| 23:37.08 | onetwo | but then skizot comes back |
| 23:37.08 | heysparky | hmm... I don't know if you can do that fatal, someone else might now |
| 23:37.09 | heysparky | know |
| 23:37.10 | onetwo | a brainwashed zombie |
| 23:37.41 | heysparky | if I start complaining about the editor... you guys know what to do... right? you'll do it. Promise me1 |
| 23:37.42 | heysparky | ! |
| 23:37.43 | heysparky | !! |
| 23:37.56 | fatal510 | anyone know how to brush boundries? |
| 23:38.34 | onetwo | in data editor, Damage Dealth (Fraction) |
| 23:38.37 | onetwo | dealt* |
| 23:38.38 | onetwo | what is that? |
| 23:38.40 | onetwo | like its set to 0 |
| 23:38.44 | onetwo | if i made it 1, is it 100%? |
| 23:38.47 | onetwo | or 1% |
| 23:38.55 | Skizot | 100 i'd think |
| 23:38.59 | onetwo | and damage dealt (scaled) vs unscaled |
| 23:39.01 | onetwo | anyone know |
| 23:39.03 | onetwo | difference |
| 23:39.05 | onetwo | thx skizot |
| 23:40.05 | Martul | We are the Borg. Lower your shields, and surrender your ship. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours. Resistance is futile. |
| 23:40.20 | Twiner | is there any way to display a mini map with the standard UI shut off? |
| 23:40.43 | heysparky | lol Martul made a joke! |
| 23:40.46 | onetwo | not that ive found twiner |
| 23:40.47 | heysparky | yay! |
| 23:40.48 | onetwo | wow martul haha |
| 23:42.22 | heysparky | one of these days I'll get back to gameplay |
| 23:42.44 | Motive | I might know the path. |
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| 23:42.52 | Skizot | oh? |
| 23:42.55 | heysparky | ./gasp |
| 23:43.02 | Motive | what path are you using atm? |
| 23:43.09 | Skizot | tried |
| 23:43.14 | Skizot | base/ui/layout/ui |
| 23:43.18 | Skizot | ui/layout/ui |
| 23:43.24 | Motive | try uh |
| 23:43.33 | Skizot | base.sc2data/ui//layout/ui |
| 23:43.33 | Motive | Mods/Core.SC2Mod/UI/Layout/UI/ |
| 23:43.42 | Motive | or something like that |
| 23:44.12 | Motive | Just a guess actually LOL |
| 23:45.39 | heysparky | If that works, I'm putting Motive up for a Nobel Peace Prize. |
| 23:45.52 | Motive | well I just noticed that base.MPQ had a directory tree with |
| 23:45.56 | Motive | Mods/Core.SC2Mod |
| 23:46.01 | Skizot | yeah no. |
| 23:46.05 | Motive | so what might be happening is everything in Base.SC2Data is thrown in there |
| 23:46.16 | Motive | guess not :( |
| 23:46.22 | heysparky | dang |
| 23:46.54 | Reactorex | Suggested MPQ editor? |
| 23:49.33 | nicoli_s | mpq editor |
| 23:49.35 | nicoli_s | thats its name |
| 23:49.43 | Skizot | lol |
| 23:50.02 | nicoli_s | nice, finally got in good auto completion for MWE :) |
| 23:50.18 | nicoli_s | might try and do a release for it tonight :) |
| 23:52.18 | fatal510 | how do i stop my builder from flying over the cliff to the other plays area and building in their region (for a TD style map) |
| 23:53.02 | Reactorex | What kind of file is SC2Data? |
| 23:53.23 | RickAx | fatal: pathing blockers |
| 23:54.21 | fatal510 | the small doodads? |
| 23:54.23 | nicoli_s | Reactorex: mpq |
| 23:55.00 | heysparky | there are 1x1 and 2x2 version |
| 23:55.11 | heysparky | you can also paint pathing, can't you? |
| 23:55.18 | heysparky | no-fly |
| 23:55.18 | heysparky | ? |
| 23:55.26 | Skizot | not no fly |
| 23:55.31 | Skizot | no fly is WEIRD. |
| 23:55.32 | Reactorex | Eh?.. |
| 23:55.34 | heysparky | ah |
| 23:55.36 | Reactorex | I wasn't able to open it. |
| 23:55.40 | fatal510 | hmm? |
| 23:55.52 | onetwo | OMG I love blizzard... veterancy is amazing now |
| 23:55.53 | fatal510 | so i would have to cover the entire cliff area with the 2x2 doodads? |
| 23:56.02 | heysparky | fatal, disregard, go with Rick's suggestion |
| 23:56.07 | onetwo | copy pasting, and i can just set attribute strength to 1 and it adds 1 each time |
| 23:56.07 | onetwo | now |
| 23:56.09 | onetwo | oh man |
| 23:56.10 | Reactorex | Aha. |
| 23:56.12 | Reactorex | Had to rename it. |
| 23:56.13 | onetwo | *passes out* |
| 23:56.26 | Reactorex | onetwo: *catches* |
| 23:56.29 | Reactorex | Don't die on me. xD |
| 23:56.34 | Reactorex | I need you for Infection. lawl. |
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| 23:56.47 | Reactorex | But yeah... |
| 23:56.48 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:56.51 | Reactorex | Veterancy is awesome. |
| 23:57.00 | nicoli_s | aww damn that was one thing i wanted to get in MWE: being able to use a formula to make levels |
| 23:58.27 | Martul | I've tried Mods/Core.SC2Mod/Base.SC2Data/UI/Layout/UI/ |
| 23:58.42 | fatal510 | why wont they let us paint no fly zones :( |
| 23:59.05 | Sixen | =/ |
| 23:59.12 | Sixen | That'd be interesting. |
| 23:59.15 | Lyrrad | you'd have to ask them |
| 23:59.19 | heysparky | You can try it, fatal |
| 23:59.33 | heysparky | I hvaen't used nofly, but if Skizot says it's wonky, I believe him |
