| 00:00.02 | Asa | Sounds like a classified map |
| 00:00.03 | Shadowclaimer | One more victim! |
| 00:00.18 | Shadowclaimer | Azu |
| 00:00.31 | ubdead | is there somebody that knows what all the Panel mean for Show/Hide GUI Panel |
| 00:00.37 | Alpha_vst | YES |
| 00:00.44 | Alpha_vst | NUmber 2 awesomeness down |
| 00:01.08 | Alpha_vst | i got selections working (like seige tank) :D |
| 00:01.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Beider (~Beider@p4FC09FE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:01.24 | ubdead | BEIDER |
| 00:01.28 | Beider | that be me |
| 00:01.41 | ubdead | hello |
| 00:01.44 | Beider | hello there |
| 00:01.51 | Beider | what can I do you for? |
| 00:01.53 | ryd_ | what are some good maps to play multiplayer? |
| 00:01.55 | Alpha_vst | my next movie is going to kick ass |
| 00:01.56 | ryd_ | i have no lucky finding any finished / good ones |
| 00:01.57 | Shadowclaimer | One more victim for Zombies Multiplayer Test! |
| 00:01.58 | ubdead | 50 dollars |
| 00:02.03 | Beider | :P |
| 00:02.05 | ubdead | srsly |
| 00:02.07 | Asa | I'm online whoever I'm helping |
| 00:02.10 | ubdead | lets so |
| 00:02.15 | ubdead | cargo huh |
| 00:02.16 | Shadowclaimer | Me, I'm just trying to find one more person |
| 00:02.23 | ryd_ | shadow |
| 00:02.24 | ubdead | i need to hide the cargo content in my unit panel |
| 00:02.26 | ryd_ | ill go |
| 00:02.27 | ubdead | any suggestions? |
| 00:02.31 | Beider | hmm |
| 00:02.31 | Shadowclaimer | pm me your name ingame |
| 00:02.33 | Shadowclaimer | and i'll link you the map |
| 00:02.35 | Beider | so you got a transport |
| 00:02.39 | Beider | and you need to hide the cargo |
| 00:02.43 | ubdead | affirmative |
| 00:02.47 | Beider | under what circumstances? |
| 00:02.52 | ubdead | always |
| 00:03.09 | Beider | Can the player make unlimited amounts of transports? |
| 00:03.14 | Beider | and you need to hide the cargo in each one of them? |
| 00:03.24 | ubdead | not really no |
| 00:03.31 | Alpha_vst | that is the sex |
| 00:03.47 | Beider | is it one particular transport and you need to hide the units in it during a cutscene or when the player loads units into it? |
| 00:04.09 | ubdead | the latter |
| 00:04.36 | Beider | and you want it to load like a normal transport etc.. |
| 00:04.42 | ubdead | yep |
| 00:04.58 | ubdead | ill send you my map if you want to |
| 00:05.18 | Beider | I got an idea |
| 00:06.08 | Beider | basically what I think you want to do is to make an event that triggers when a unit loads cargo (and another when it unloads) |
| 00:06.36 | Beider | on load you want to hide the "triggering cargo unit", then store it in an array |
| 00:06.48 | Beider | then unhide and move it when it unloads |
| 00:06.51 | ubdead | hide the unit itself? |
| 00:06.53 | Beider | yes |
| 00:06.57 | ubdead | could work |
| 00:07.00 | Beider | so basically you code your transport as a trigger |
| 00:07.08 | ubdead | i would use behavior for that i guess |
| 00:07.18 | Beider | it hides the unit, stores all cargo in an array. Then unloads from the array |
| 00:07.21 | ubdead | great idea beider |
| 00:07.24 | ubdead | ill get right on it |
| 00:07.33 | Beider | well if you wait until tomorrow I can play around with it |
| 00:07.40 | Beider | kind of tipsy atm, so not in the best coding state |
| 00:07.50 | ubdead | oh tipsy works wonders for me |
| 00:08.17 | Beider | Well kind of tipsy was phrasing it lightly :P |
| 00:08.25 | ubdead | drunk -> lots of syntax errors but CREATIVE GENIOUS |
| 00:08.42 | Beider | well that is the great thing about working in the trigger editor |
| 00:08.45 | Beider | can't make syntax errors |
| 00:08.49 | Durrean | since windows 7's paint automatically saves PNG files, so many PNGs are popped out in the net :/ |
| 00:08.59 | ShadowTiger | this is wierd... |
| 00:09.00 | ubdead | ye gotta love it |
| 00:09.00 | Beider | Also I learned long ago that I shouldn't program while drunk... Broke many a program like that :P |
| 00:09.11 | ShadowTiger | my stimpack works for player 1, but the behavior gives no speed bonus for player 2 |
| 00:09.19 | ubdead | try driving a car while drunk ;D |
| 00:09.30 | Beider | that I don't do ^^ |
| 00:09.32 | ubdead | you will break a lot more then a program lol |
| 00:09.45 | Beider | Don't want to lose my license or kill/hurt myself/other people |
| 00:09.57 | ShadowTiger | they should require a license for programmers |
| 00:10.01 | ubdead | ye i was being sarcastic for the record |
| 00:10.09 | Beider | ShadowTiger: Yes they should |
| 00:10.23 | ubdead | lots of certivicates around |
| 00:10.25 | ubdead | right |
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| 00:10.49 | Beider | working as a games programmer or application programmer is a pain. get to see all the horror code some people put out |
| 00:10.53 | Alpha_vst | woot crashed my editor sweet |
| 00:11.03 | ubdead | join the club Alpha :D |
| 00:11.11 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 00:11.19 | Alpha_vst | i like to share |
| 00:11.21 | ubdead | Beider so this is actually your profession? |
| 00:11.31 | ubdead | ARE YOU WITH BLIZZ? |
| 00:11.38 | Beider | ubdead: if you can't figure it out by tomorrow I'll put some time into it and figure it out and make a tutorial. (and if you figure it out tell me how and I will make a tutorial) |
| 00:11.46 | RingBearer | I liked what I did with one of my crash info logs |
| 00:11.52 | ubdead | sure thing Beider |
| 00:12.02 | RingBearer | Where it said "What were you doing while you crashed". My reply - "Losing." |
| 00:12.03 | Beider | nah, I am a mere application programmer. But got friends who work as games programmers and they tell me horror stories daily |
| 00:12.19 | ubdead | im in IT too, but more management |
| 00:12.25 | ubdead | ERP, CRM, etc. |
| 00:12.28 | Beider | uck |
| 00:12.35 | Beider | management *shudder^* |
| 00:12.38 | ubdead | :D |
| 00:12.42 | Beider | management always fuck up things |
| 00:12.56 | ubdead | ;) |
| 00:12.59 | Beider | the worst ones are US management |
| 00:13.01 | RingBearer | Isn't Dilbert just depressing once you get into the work force? :) |
| 00:13.03 | Beider | uck |
| 00:13.27 | ubdead | the management here is quite good if i may say so |
| 00:13.40 | Beider | RingBearer: Indeed. All the dilbert comics one thought was just silly before sadly becomes very relevant |
| 00:14.34 | ubdead | lol :D |
| 00:14.47 | ubdead | hey does anybody know what Markers are for? |
| 00:14.49 | ubdead | (DE) |
| 00:14.57 | ubdead | or "Make precursor" |
| 00:15.14 | ubdead | and also "FromTreeEffectSomething" |
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| 00:15.28 | Beider | hmm, markers where? |
| 00:15.33 | ubdead | i've seen it a lot in the Blizzard effects, but i have no idea what they are for |
| 00:15.41 | ubdead | Markers are pretty much everywhere in Effects |
| 00:15.55 | ubdead | they seem handy |
| 00:16.00 | ubdead | but i dont know how to use them |
| 00:16.08 | Beider | Name one effect (want to look in the data editor= |
| 00:16.15 | ubdead | please hold |
| 00:16.45 | ubdead | any "Effect Damage" effect will do |
| 00:16.50 | Beider | got an effect where they are enabled? |
| 00:16.51 | ubdead | field: Marker + |
| 00:16.55 | ubdead | oh |
| 00:17.06 | ubdead | that would require additional research |
| 00:17.18 | ubdead | ill get on it after this cargo thing |
| 00:17.19 | Beider | well best way to figure out what they do, find one that uses it |
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| 00:17.24 | Durrean | is someone good in english and can spellcheck my cinematic? |
| 00:17.33 | ubdead | good at* |
| 00:17.37 | Beider | oh found one |
| 00:17.41 | Beider | Durrean: I could |
| 00:17.43 | Durrean | my cinematic, not me ;) |
| 00:17.46 | ubdead | :D |
| 00:17.52 | deathnight114 | Hey guys |
| 00:17.53 | deathnight114 | i'm making a new YT Accound |
| 00:17.54 | Durrean | that would be nice |
| 00:17.55 | deathnight114 | where i'm gonna put all my music |
| 00:17.56 | deathnight114 | what should I name it??? |
| 00:18.09 | ubdead | Music? |
| 00:18.16 | Durrean | accound? |
| 00:18.18 | Beider | deathnight114Music |
| 00:18.20 | Durrean | new? |
| 00:18.23 | RingBearer | There is spellcheck in the editor |
| 00:18.28 | ubdead | lol really? |
| 00:18.31 | RingBearer | yeah' |
| 00:18.37 | ubdead | cool lol |
| 00:18.53 | RingBearer | Go to the Text window (F8) |
| 00:19.00 | Durrean | well its more about the grammar and well, how can i say it, slang? |
| 00:19.18 | RingBearer | There is a way a way to do it there somehow |
| 00:19.34 | RingBearer | Grammar.. umm.. copy/paste into Word and have it do it then? |
| 00:19.41 | ShadowTiger | ya |
| 00:19.55 | ubdead | "Hide Change UI" in Behavior->Attribute->Modification |
| 00:20.08 | ubdead | what is it :D |
| 00:20.16 | ubdead | sounds promising |
| 00:20.42 | Beider | hmm |
| 00:20.52 | RingBearer | wishes the GE would offer a "deep copy" of units |
| 00:21.09 | Beider | say what ubdead? where? |
| 00:21.33 | ubdead | in the data editor |
| 00:21.44 | Asa | What does "taunt" do in the editor? |
| 00:21.59 | ubdead | i think it makes your agro go up |
| 00:22.01 | ubdead | for the unit |
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| 00:22.08 | Shadowclaimer | well |
| 00:22.10 | Shadowclaimer | Got a lot of work to do |
| 00:22.14 | Asa | We won |
| 00:22.19 | Asa | We were eaten by zombies |
| 00:22.21 | Asa | Victory was ours |
| 00:22.21 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 00:22.22 | Skizot | shut up Ignorance. |
| 00:22.31 | Shadowclaimer | Running bastards lol |
| 00:22.37 | Shadowclaimer | I need ot give marines more health overall for one |
| 00:22.39 | ubdead | lol :D |
| 00:22.43 | Shadowclaimer | need to implement minor mutations for zombies |
| 00:22.45 | ubdead | omnomnomnom |
| 00:22.52 | Legick | the map crashed my sc2 :( |
| 00:22.55 | Legick | at the end there |
| 00:22.56 | Shadowclaimer | yea mine too.. |
| 00:23.05 | Shadowclaimer | it spammed victory because of my genius |
| 00:23.16 | ShadowTiger | oh yeah once my map caused a memory leak |
| 00:23.25 | ShadowTiger | it just froze and started eating 10 mb/sec |
| 00:23.26 | Shadowclaimer | I had a repeat function in an old map that did htat lol |
| 00:23.36 | ShadowTiger | but this was not trigger based |
| 00:23.38 | ubdead | The "Hide Change UI" thing was useless btw |
| 00:23.48 | Legick | how did you manage a memory leak without triggers? |
| 00:23.57 | Legick | that's a bit impressive in its own right |
| 00:24.09 | ShadowTiger | the game just did something stupid i would imagine |
| 00:24.13 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
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| 00:24.20 | ubdead | "Supress Passenger" |
| 00:24.23 | ubdead | sounds good :D |
| 00:24.31 | Beider | could work |
| 00:24.31 | Durrean | has anyone tried out "Make Unit Look At Unit"? It isn't working for me for whatever reason. even the actor equivalents aren't doing anything. only actor look at angle works |
| 00:24.50 | ShadowTiger | well you can figure out what angel to use |
| 00:24.52 | Shadowclaimer | alright so thank you greatly testers, I learned a few things that need changed |
| 00:25.06 | Shadowclaimer | will have another version up later for those interested |
| 00:25.08 | ShadowTiger | in wc3 look at unit locks until you release it |
| 00:25.13 | Durrean | yeah, the problem is that the angle thing the units are turning instant |
| 00:25.22 | ShadowTiger | do you want it to lock? |
| 00:25.32 | Durrean | normal turn around |
| 00:25.45 | ShadowTiger | you just want units to turn around? |
| 00:25.55 | Durrean | yeah, as simple as it is |
| 00:26.17 | Shadowclaimer | also my apologies lego |
| 00:26.18 | Durrean | it doesnt work ^^ |
| 00:26.21 | Shadowclaimer | accidently shot you a bit at the start.. |
| 00:26.29 | Legick | yeah |
| 00:26.36 | Legick | i was confused why i was at 5 hp from the get go |
| 00:26.41 | Shadowclaimer | yea.. |
| 00:26.45 | Shadowclaimer | forgot we had 4 players and not 3 |
| 00:26.47 | ShadowTiger | well just make unit face angle... and say over x seconds |
| 00:26.53 | ubdead | what does "Benign" mean? |
| 00:26.55 | Shadowclaimer | thought you were a computer for osme genius reason |
| 00:27.24 | ShadowTiger | benign means its not harmful |
| 00:27.37 | ShadowTiger | i think its an AI flag but not sure |
| 00:27.38 | Durrean | i have "Make Actor Face Angle" which works |
| 00:27.54 | ShadowTiger | make unit face angel doesnt work? |
| 00:28.01 | ShadowTiger | not that it matters |
| 00:28.01 | Durrean | will try it |
| 00:28.39 | ubdead | ok thanks |
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| 00:31.18 | Durrean | It works, ty ShadowTigre can't believe that i didn't saw it beforce... |
| 00:31.26 | Ignorance | hmm |
| 00:31.37 | onisagi | hmm... |
| 00:31.49 | Durrean | hmm? |
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| 00:32.50 | devilesk | if i have abilities that can be leveled up every time the hero levels up how do i make it so you can only level up one ability |
| 00:32.50 | Ignorance | rrowland, if you're here, I feel your pain right now. Finding the plane for impulse the directions for impulse = pain |
| 00:33.16 | Ignorance | Doing the cross product for the normal force wasn't bad, but I just don't know what I'm going to do for this. @_@ |
| 00:35.02 | Legick | devil, i remember a video tutorial that may be relevant to you |
| 00:35.05 | Legick | i'll find it real quick |
| 00:35.35 | ubdead | mnn i think the "Load Cargo Behavior" is broken |
| 00:35.40 | onisagi | cross products waaa |
| 00:35.46 | ubdead | it's not applying behavior when cargo is loaded |
| 00:36.17 | Legick | it's one of bifuu's |
| 00:36.25 | Legick | i think he explains it in one of the 3 videos |
| 00:36.26 | Legick | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/1333-video-data-wc3-hero-ability-emulation/#p5 |
| 00:36.28 | onisagi | is yur unit capacity full? |
| 00:36.39 | onisagi | for load cargo |
| 00:36.39 | pkol | devilesk, i'd have a look at http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/genericherolearn/ |
| 00:36.54 | ubdead | sure isnt |
| 00:36.54 | pkol | pretty much has wc3 style learning template for you |
| 00:36.57 | ShadowTiger | what do you mean by load cargo behavior? |
| 00:36.58 | Ignorance | Hey man, it requires me to remember stuff from way back in freshman year. |
| 00:37.00 | onisagi | very odd |
| 00:37.08 | ubdead | i know right |
| 00:37.19 | onisagi | hes trying to load cargo into a unit |
| 00:37.25 | onisagi | and it stops loading cargo midway |
| 00:37.29 | onisagi | i think thats wut hes saying |
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| 00:37.58 | ubdead | not really |
| 00:38.03 | onisagi | no? hahah |
| 00:38.12 | onisagi | clarify? |
| 00:38.21 | Asa | Can a behavior have more than one periodic effect? |
| 00:38.23 | ubdead | it's a behavior thats applied when a unit enters a transport |
| 00:38.24 | ShadowTiger | well by default load/unload doesnt use effects/behaviors |
| 00:38.29 | ShadowTiger | yes asa |
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| 00:38.35 | ubdead | yes asa give it a set |
| 00:38.39 | ubdead | effect set that is |
| 00:39.03 | ubdead | all of the behavior events work |
| 00:39.16 | ubdead | except for the apply behavior to cargo |
| 00:39.36 | ubdead | very odd |
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| 00:40.16 | ShadowTiger | you mean "load cargo behavior" doesnt work? |
| 00:40.18 | Asa | How do I make an effect set? |
| 00:40.32 | Asa | Nm |
| 00:40.35 | RingBearer | I remember having fun with the cargo ability... I forgot that ghosts count as 2 spaces >.< |
| 00:40.47 | RingBearer | Took me forever before I realized that |
| 00:41.32 | onisagi | medivacs can heal its cargo |
| 00:41.57 | onisagi | should be pretty ez |
| 00:42.00 | ubdead | yes "Load Cargo Behavior" for the Transport ability |
| 00:43.00 | ubdead | ill check out the medvac |
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| 00:43.10 | onisagi | good idea... lol |
| 00:43.23 | onisagi | i actually assumed yu got the idea initially from medivacs |
| 00:44.27 | ShadowTiger | okay the load cargo works for me ubdead |
| 00:44.37 | ShadowTiger | but it removes the behavior automatically upon exit |
| 00:44.45 | ubdead | that might explain things |
| 00:44.57 | ubdead | (also the medvac has no cargo behavior) |
| 00:45.06 | ShadowTiger | i added stimpack |
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| 00:45.15 | ShadowTiger | and when i unload i see the end stimpack animation |
| 00:45.33 | ubdead | thanks Shadow |
| 00:45.53 | ubdead | so i could assume that the unit inside do have the behavior |
| 00:45.59 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 00:46.11 | ubdead | that makes things worse lol |
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| 00:46.34 | onisagi | wuts the behavior anyways? |
| 00:46.51 | ubdead | some hiding the unit stuff i was testing |
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| 00:47.12 | ubdead | i was trying to make the units in cargo not show up in the Unit Panel |
| 00:47.19 | ubdead | (bottomcenter) |
| 00:47.26 | onisagi | lol |
| 00:47.27 | ubdead | but no succes so far :( |
| 00:47.46 | onisagi | that doesnt sound like something blizz intended yu to be able to do |
| 00:48.01 | ubdead | well blizz can suck it |
| 00:48.22 | onisagi | default UI sukx anyways |
| 00:48.40 | ubdead | also, would anybody have a good idea to make item not drop on death |
| 00:49.14 | ubdead | (but be destroyed in stead) |
| 00:49.50 | Alpha_vst | ok :P |
| 00:50.09 | RingBearer | A trigger mayhaps? |
| 00:50.14 | Alpha_vst | did you try to modify the cargo ability? |
| 00:50.37 | ubdead | yea the cargo ability has no options |
| 00:50.52 | Lyrrad | ubdead - Have you tried turning off the "Can Drop" flag on items? |
| 00:51.03 | ubdead | well thing is, i want to drop items |
| 00:51.13 | ubdead | just not when the carrier dies |
| 00:51.23 | Lyrrad | I see |
| 00:51.25 | ubdead | and also: the item still drops when you set Can Drop |
| 00:51.31 | RingBearer | If you can not use the cargo ability.... you could try to use triggers |
| 00:51.40 | RingBearer | Redo the whole cargo ability with trigges |
| 00:51.44 | RingBearer | so u can hide the UI |
| 00:52.03 | RingBearer | Will there be more than one of these units running around? |
| 00:52.04 | ubdead | i only use Triggers for game logic (the way it supposed to be anyway) |
| 00:52.09 | Vailreth | to bad you cant ad a behavior to the item its self with a timed life... |
| 00:52.11 | ubdead | yes could be many |
| 00:52.20 | RingBearer | Ah nm |
| 00:52.25 | ubdead | and you can Vailreth |
| 00:52.30 | ShadowTiger | did you uncheck the flag for cargo death for the ability? |
| 00:52.47 | ubdead | Cargo Death is for transport |
| 00:52.48 | Vailreth | you can? |
| 00:52.56 | ShadowTiger | yeah its for transports |
| 00:52.59 | ubdead | Cargo /= items |
| 00:53.04 | ShadowTiger | lol okay |
| 00:53.27 | ubdead | mnn seems the editor still lacks at items |
| 00:53.35 | ubdead | basic things seems overly complicated |
| 00:53.37 | Lyrrad | It does |
| 00:53.49 | RingBearer | Gah blizzard... why did you make it so hard to duplicate things! |
| 00:53.50 | ShadowTiger | well its possible that the final version will have better support |
| 00:54.06 | ShadowTiger | I dont really have much trouble with duplication... |
| 00:54.09 | ubdead | please don't duplicate things RingBearer |
| 00:54.20 | ubdead | try to use the Parent field |
| 00:54.27 | RingBearer | Oh |
| 00:54.30 | ubdead | inheritance is much better |
| 00:54.30 | RingBearer | hmmm |
| 00:54.35 | Lyrrad | ubdead, you could try having a short range explosion when a unit dies, maybe that will destroy any items dropped |
| 00:54.42 | RingBearer | let me try that then... |
| 00:54.48 | ubdead | yep that was what i was thinking Lyrrad |
| 00:54.53 | ubdead | and it should work |
| 00:54.56 | ubdead | but its dirty |
| 00:55.04 | ubdead | might destroy other items near the death |
| 00:55.19 | Lyrrad | Keep the damage radius really small |
| 00:55.39 | ShadowTiger | what does the item death flag to for inventories? |
| 00:55.51 | ubdead | mnn would a Final Effect trigger for a behavior when it dies? |
| 00:56.11 | ShadowTiger | that should work |
| 00:56.18 | ubdead | lets see |
| 00:56.24 | ShadowTiger | you could always do a death ability |
| 00:56.29 | ShadowTiger | like baneling explode |
| 00:56.57 | ShadowTiger | i mean death behavior |
| 00:57.17 | ubdead | oh, that would be better yes |
| 00:58.26 | Vailreth | to bad you cant make it an item that has a change and when the person carying it dies the charge is used up to the destroy when depleted flag activates |
| 01:00.16 | ubdead | i ah Death Response in modification of a behavior |
| 01:00.21 | ubdead | that would be perfect |
| 01:00.29 | Alpha_vst | is there a invisable model? |
| 01:02.20 | ubdead | yes |
| 01:02.26 | ubdead | it's called "invisable" |
| 01:02.35 | Alpha_vst | lol thanks |
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| 01:04.02 | Alpha_vst | first thing i looked for must of missed it :D |
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| 01:07.32 | Vailreth | what does the transient effect flag do? |
| 01:07.46 | Alpha_vst | SWEET |
| 01:07.51 | Alpha_vst | no idea |
| 01:08.10 | Alpha_vst | but my area effect works |
| 01:08.24 | Alpha_vst | well my reset cam bounds |
| 01:08.30 | Alpha_vst | its pretty sexy |
| 01:08.38 | ubdead | for the lava run thing? |
| 01:09.25 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 01:09.34 | Alpha_vst | part of my camera system |
| 01:09.49 | Alpha_vst | next is a ability to reset the cam facing direction |
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| 01:10.03 | Alpha_vst | then my camera will be awesome |
| 01:10.20 | Kenoli | Can anyone tell me how to edit the fog |
| 01:10.33 | Skizot | dry ice and a blow dryer |
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| 01:10.42 | Alpha_vst | data fog of war data |
| 01:11.08 | Kenoli | Isn't that just the fog of war |
| 01:11.16 | ubdead | lol i forgot to set the chance the death effect would happen xD |
| 01:11.22 | ubdead | no wonder it didnt work |
| 01:11.24 | Que | does anyone know if it's possible to get rid of the backround in the space terrain? I don' want a huge saturn like planet in the backround |
| 01:11.29 | Kenoli | I want the volumetric fog that's everywhere |
| 01:11.31 | Que | preferably juse space like in the original SC |
| 01:13.06 | Alpha_vst | yeah que |
| 01:13.17 | Que | data editor? |
| 01:13.44 | Vailreth | weird items dont load from mods |
| 01:13.47 | Alpha_vst | data / terrain texture sets / pick braxis alpha |
| 01:14.09 | Alpha_vst | remove FieldBraxis Alpha (Space Platform) Background Model (Fixed)Braxis Alpha Sky Box |
| 01:14.20 | Alpha_vst | opos |
| 01:14.21 | Alpha_vst | Background Model (Fixed) Braxis Alpha Sky Box |
| 01:14.31 | RingBearer | Thank you for telling me about parent ubedead... Still need to do work on it after you create it, but it seems a lot simpler and easier overall than what I was trying to do >.< |
| 01:14.40 | Que | thank you very much |
| 01:14.51 | Alpha_vst | save reopn map |
| 01:15.24 | ubdead | RingBearer: even better is to modify the events for the actors |
| 01:15.48 | ubdead | but stick with parents for now |
| 01:16.05 | RingBearer | *shudders* The events+ field is scary :D |
| 01:16.10 | ubdead | ;D |
| 01:16.32 | ubdead | it's not a hard as it looks tbh |
| 01:16.50 | ubdead | so i fixed the item dropping problem -> |
| 01:16.57 | ubdead | called down a nuke when the unit dies |
| 01:16.58 | Alpha_vst | woot |
| 01:17.04 | ubdead | nuke blows up EVERYHTING |
| 01:17.05 | RingBearer | lol |
| 01:17.06 | Alpha_vst | sexy |
| 01:17.07 | ubdead | no more item |
| 01:17.09 | Alpha_vst | HOT |
| 01:17.28 | RingBearer | But what if you blink in.. grab the item.. then blink out |
| 01:17.41 | ubdead | no blink yet on my map |
| 01:17.42 | ubdead | lol |
| 01:17.57 | ubdead | search effect that removes all items in a radius should work |
| 01:18.02 | ShadowTiger | i still have this problem |
| 01:18.04 | ubdead | im still overlooking something |
| 01:18.08 | ShadowTiger | where the stim pack behavior doesnt work for player 2 |
| 01:18.55 | ubdead | i love using the nuke for debugging when events happen |
| 01:19.26 | ubdead | does crash the game now and then |
| 01:19.37 | ubdead | when an infinite loops goes 3492394905 nukes on me |
| 01:19.44 | RingBearer | Nuclear launch dectected on your hard drive |
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| 01:20.31 | ubdead | i think the Suicide effect is not working for the item |
| 01:20.36 | ubdead | ill try Kill effect then |
| 01:20.55 | Vailreth | how do you place items in the editor? |
| 01:21.10 | ubdead | you have to make an Unit - Item |
| 01:21.17 | ubdead | and then you can place them like any other unit |
| 01:21.43 | ubdead | holy shit it worked |
| 01:21.58 | Vailreth | thanks |
| 01:22.04 | Vailreth | and what worked' |
| 01:22.18 | ubdead | items get destroyed when the unit dies that carries them |
| 01:23.47 | Vailreth | how did you get it to work? |
| 01:24.17 | ubdead | an effect triggers when the unit dies, and the effect then looks for items in a 0.1 radius and removes them |
| 01:24.21 | ubdead | works like a charm |
| 01:24.36 | ShadowTiger | what if you die next to an item not in your inventory |
| 01:24.39 | Alpha_vst | duh |
| 01:24.51 | ubdead | 0.1 is too small for that |
| 01:24.58 | RingBearer | wow.... Putting a Unit into a forcefield looks awesome |
| 01:25.04 | ubdead | because the radius of the unit itself is much larger |
| 01:25.10 | Que | Hmm i'm trying this, and it doesn't seem to be working |
| 01:26.48 | Alpha_vst | ops que i might of told yout he wrong one :P |
| 01:27.02 | Alpha_vst | do the other one instead :D |
| 01:27.05 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:28.53 | Que | lol |
| 01:28.54 | Que | im trying |
| 01:29.14 | Que | it's just removing that one thing right? |
| 01:29.16 | Que | well should be |
| 01:29.36 | Que | i somewhat got it |
| 01:29.42 | Que | just a brown backround now |
| 01:30.24 | Vailreth | I think i may have discovered something |
| 01:30.58 | Vailreth | it MAY be possible to assign one actor to multiple units ,,, |
| 01:31.13 | ubdead | haha it is Vailreth |
| 01:31.16 | ubdead | i do it all the time |
| 01:31.23 | Vailreth | good to know |
| 01:31.34 | ubdead | just add the UnitBirth.<unitname> |
| 01:31.44 | ubdead | and give it an "Create" action |
| 01:31.46 | Asa | Do beams have a length limit visually? |
| 01:32.15 | Vailreth | well i just added a new token to the tokens field typed units .... |
| 01:32.24 | Lyrrad | You can, but I think blizzard intended for each unit to have its own actor |
| 01:32.48 | ubdead | i sure hope not |
| 01:33.05 | ubdead | that mean i would have to create 400 actors for my items ;) |
| 01:33.10 | Vailreth | but things like items all using the same modle the same actor would be huge |
| 01:33.23 | ubdead | right now they all share the same actor |
| 01:33.44 | Vailreth | i must do Research! |
| 01:34.34 | Que | lol i set both textrues as parralex this time, and now theres 5 huge ass asstroids in the front of the screen |
| 01:34.34 | Que | win |
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| 01:39.19 | mahashiro | hey do you guys know how to edit the help menu? |
| 01:39.25 | ubdead | my day/night rithme is so fucked |
| 01:40.11 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 01:40.26 | Alpha_vst | my next map is going to be about day night |
| 01:40.32 | Alpha_vst | idono what yet |
| 01:41.20 | Lyrrad | Anyone know how to make an explosion visual effect larger? |
| 01:41.24 | Asa | Where in the data editor does one go to change the icon of vespene gas/mineral field, or do you need to create a new resource? |
| 01:42.08 | Lyrrad | Asa I have looked for that too, you can change which resources are displayed in "Races" but not the icons it seems |
| 01:44.04 | XBMspec | mahashiro, I'm not sure but look for a map on sc2mapster called Chess. He managed to change the help menu a little. |
| 01:44.18 | XBMspec | and blew my mind with a fully functional chess game in SC2 |
| 01:44.46 | mahashiro | ok ty |
| 01:44.56 | ubdead | mapping gets more and more fun as you get into it :D |
| 01:45.01 | ubdead | im sooo addicted |
| 01:45.27 | RingBearer | doh... editor crash and I didn't save it... what... auto save doesn't work on unsaved maps?! Noooooo |
| 01:45.35 | Que | kind of wish there was a starforge version of galixy editor... |
| 01:45.43 | Que | wait nvm then it would be even harder to understand at this current moment |
| 01:47.04 | Vailreth | how are you creating multiple items with one actor? |
| 01:49.24 | TheLaughingMan | Sixen |
| 01:50.06 | mahashiro | lol blizzard left some of their achievements in the editor |
| 01:52.19 | Ignorance | Just warning you guys: Atan2 does not do angles well at all. :[ I'm fairly certain it only goes from -90 to 90, despite that it takes x and y as coordinates. |
| 01:52.23 | Ignorance | So blah! |
| 01:52.55 | Skizot | THAT would explain why i can't shoot up. |
| 01:52.56 | Skizot | lol |
| 01:53.11 | Ignorance | I'm going to make a custom function that fixes this problem. |
| 01:53.30 | Ignorance | But I mean, seriously, what the hell Blizzard, why did you make two arctan functions that do the same goddamn thing? |
| 01:53.46 | Lyrrad | To annoy you |
| 01:53.51 | Ignorance | So it would seem. |
| 01:56.33 | Lyrrad | Anyone know how to make the visual size of an explosion bigger? |
| 01:56.51 | Vailreth | which explosion? |
| 01:57.33 | ShadowTiger | make the actor bigger? |
| 01:57.45 | Lyrrad | Trying to make the nuke explosion bigger |
| 01:57.56 | Lyrrad | and the Nuke Explosion actor doesn't have a scale |
| 01:58.02 | Vailreth | some explosions like the baneling one are tied to the baneling actor size |
| 01:58.18 | RingBearer | Try the effects? |
| 01:58.34 | Vailreth | i dont think you can resize explosions |
| 01:58.45 | RingBearer | could had sworn someone did |
| 01:58.55 | RingBearer | Or at least made the nuke a huge explosion |
| 01:59.04 | ShadowTiger | you could always scale up the model |
| 01:59.10 | ShadowTiger | but try this |
| 01:59.59 | ShadowTiger | open the nuke explode actor |
| 02:00.02 | ShadowTiger | looka t the events |
| 02:00.07 | ShadowTiger | make a new event |
| 02:00.15 | ShadowTiger | copying the previous one |
| 02:00.36 | ShadowTiger | and then change the term from "create" to set scale |
| 02:01.42 | Lyrrad | if this works I am gonna kick myself, cause I did that, except instead of set, I used multiply scale |
| 02:01.56 | `228zip | Anyone up for a quick test on the EU servers ? |
| 02:02.42 | Lyrrad | Didn't work |
| 02:03.18 | Ignorance | ugh |
| 02:03.21 | Ignorance | maybe it's not arctan |
| 02:03.31 | Ignorance | what the hell is wrong with my program that I can't turn left?! |
| 02:03.45 | `228zip | ATan2 worked fine last time I tried |
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| 02:04.41 | Ignorance | What's weiredst -> switching things up if X < 0 didn't even change anything |
| 02:05.52 | Lyrrad | Is anyone else having trouble connecting to the b.net sc2 beta forums? |
| 02:05.53 | ubdead | Vailreth: im creating the multiple item with one actor using events |
| 02:05.55 | Rugvip | Any1 knows how to use the term "Compare Field" in actor events? |
| 02:06.06 | ubdead | sure |
| 02:06.14 | `228zip | Anyone up for a test on the EU servers ? |
| 02:06.18 | ubdead | Compare field: fieldname and the value |
| 02:06.25 | Arthas- | `228zip |
| 02:06.28 | Vailreth | ah |
| 02:06.28 | Arthas- | what kind of test |
| 02:06.31 | Arthas- | im available |
| 02:06.34 | Rugvip | well, what's the target? |
| 02:06.37 | Arthas- | if its < 30 min |
| 02:06.47 | `228zip | It should be under 5 min =o |
| 02:06.59 | Arthas- | where is mapfile |
| 02:07.07 | ubdead | zip, what map :D? |
| 02:07.13 | ubdead | the rocket jeeps one? |
| 02:07.17 | `228zip | Yeah |
| 02:07.23 | ubdead | cool im curious |
| 02:07.28 | ubdead | but no time i think :( |
| 02:07.42 | ubdead | can you upload a new video sometimes :)? |
| 02:08.38 | Lyrrad | I think, instead of making my explosion larger I will have to go the route of making everything else smaller |
| 02:08.45 | RingBearer | lol |
| 02:08.49 | `228zip | When the movement system will be finished =o |
| 02:09.20 | RingBearer | Stop crashing on me GE... just because I have multiple programs open... |
| 02:11.52 | ubdead | holy shit im on fire tonight |
| 02:12.00 | ubdead | huge steps :D |
| 02:12.14 | ubdead | my maps is now starting to actually get fun to play |
| 02:17.17 | JamesObscura | Can anyone help me with making custom upgrades? After I duplicate an upgrade(Say Terran Weapon Upgrade 1) and switch out the engineering bay's research's Terran Upgrade 1 with my new copy, it doesn't work anymore. |
| 02:19.34 | Lyrrad | When you say it doesn't work anymore, what do you mean, is it not available, is it available and you can't research it, or does researching it have no effect? |
| 02:20.02 | JamesObscura | When I research it, it no longer effects units. |
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| 02:23.01 | Lyrrad | I haven't played with upgrades so I can't really help you, sorry |
| 02:23.16 | ubdead | me neither |
| 02:23.24 | JamesObscura | Thanks anyways |
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| 02:25.37 | Skizot | I BORE. |
| 02:25.39 | `228zip | StringWord |
| 02:25.41 | Skizot | AMUSE ME PEONS |
| 02:25.44 | `228zip | THAT FUNCTIONS KICKS ASS |
| 02:25.50 | Ignorance | rofl I found the error |
| 02:25.58 | Ignorance | multiplied by X-Y angle twice |
| 02:25.58 | Ignorance | xD |
| 02:26.00 | `228zip | Skizot, do me a model! |
| 02:26.07 | Skizot | of what nbot? |
| 02:26.09 | Skizot | now* |
| 02:26.19 | `228zip | No, just kidding |
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| 02:27.07 | NeoDeathXp | hey folks |
| 02:27.12 | Skizot | AMUSE ME PEON |
| 02:27.12 | Lyrrad | hello |
| 02:27.16 | ubdead | lol |
| 02:27.19 | NeoDeathXp | ? |
| 02:27.20 | ubdead | WORK WORK |
| 02:27.24 | ubdead | YOU NEED DOING? |
| 02:27.31 | Lyrrad | stands on his head |
| 02:27.46 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 02:27.50 | ubdead | wonders if anybody gets his reference |
| 02:28.12 | Lyrrad | Stop tickling me |
| 02:28.17 | ubdead | there we go |
| 02:28.38 | ubdead | best W3 quote ever: "MOOOOOOOORTAAAAAAAARRRRRRR COMMMMMBATTTTTTTTTTT" |
| 02:28.55 | ubdead | first time i heared that i lmao |
| 02:29.32 | ubdead | Skizot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7C9rc6887s |
| 02:29.48 | Lyrrad | *Russian accent* Shields up! What no shields? |
| 02:30.10 | ubdead | "I said a BOW string not a G- ahhwww nevermind" |
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| 02:30.31 | ShadowTiger | i just found something interesting |
| 02:30.33 | ubdead | too bad SC2 has not AS funny quotes |
| 02:30.42 | RingBearer | You call down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind |
| 02:31.22 | ubdead | the nerubian says: "And they say Blizzard games don't have bugs" |
| 02:31.23 | RingBearer | There will always be the Hero quotes we haven't seen yet |
| 02:31.23 | ShadowTiger | action - set unit property -> movement speed will override current and future buff behaviors that effect movement speed |
| 02:31.38 | ubdead | epic |
| 02:32.18 | RingBearer | Every single line of dialog from the Panderan is pure gold |
| 02:32.37 | ShadowTiger | i eat dead people... |
| 02:32.46 | ubdead | i liek the Gripphon Rider |
| 02:32.49 | ShadowTiger | My life for auir... i mean nerzul |
| 02:32.57 | ubdead | "Drop the villager.... DROP IT..... DROPPPPP IT" |
| 02:33.14 | ubdead | "ahhhhh!!!!!!!!! -Good boy" |
| 02:33.15 | ShadowTiger | you're the king? well i didn't vote for you |
| 02:33.23 | ubdead | yea i loved that one :D |
| 02:33.25 | ShadowTiger | help! i'm being oppressed |
| 02:33.34 | ubdead | god i love these quotes |
| 02:33.41 | RingBearer | I bring PANDAmonium |
| 02:34.10 | RingBearer | Those by the peasents are Monthy Python quotes, but still :) |
| 02:34.34 | ShadowTiger | Darkness Called... and I wasn't home so he left a message. I tried to call him back be he didn't pick up. Darkness must have been screening his calls that day. |
| 02:34.47 | ubdead | "Ohhh nooo what did i drop? -OHHWWWYEAAAAAA -Oh no! Not the love potion!" |
| 02:34.51 | heysparky | if I have an array of regions, how do I iterate through them to apply an effect? |
| 02:34.59 | ShadowTiger | all time favorite: |
| 02:35.07 | heysparky | basically, I want to remove anything that enters one of several regions |
| 02:35.12 | ShadowTiger | wheres the mini-map? I threw it in the lake! Are you craaazy? |
| 02:35.19 | ubdead | rofl |
| 02:35.28 | Lyrrad | "I'll attract the enemy with my Human call, I'm so wasted" |
| 02:35.44 | ubdead | hahahahahaha that one is so epic |
| 02:36.06 | ubdead | and i like the Uther quotes too |
| 02:37.05 | heysparky | thoughts? |
| 02:37.08 | ShadowTiger | heysparky, you know that you can make all the regions into 1 big region right? |
| 02:37.20 | heysparky | no... is that what add does? |
| 02:37.24 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 02:37.30 | heysparky | so they don't have to touch? |
| 02:37.35 | ShadowTiger | nope |
| 02:37.41 | heysparky | awesome! Perfect |
| 02:37.44 | heysparky | ty |
| 02:37.48 | ShadowTiger | im pretty sure that works |
| 02:37.50 | ubdead | "Well Kimcake, i love you, but i have something to tell you: im a demon" |
| 02:37.57 | ShadowTiger | because you can do it with the region maker too |
| 02:38.45 | heysparky | which is the master region, or are they all ... region maker? |
| 02:39.03 | ShadowTiger | yeah just the region layer where you make regions |
| 02:39.13 | ShadowTiger | depending on how you do it |
| 02:39.33 | ShadowTiger | the master region changes |
| 02:39.35 | ubdead | "I looove the dead........... frequently" |
| 02:39.37 | ubdead | SICK |
| 02:39.55 | ShadowTiger | you should probably just do region add b to a, add c to a, add d to a etc |
| 02:40.04 | heysparky | k |
| 02:40.07 | heysparky | and then refer to A |
| 02:40.15 | heysparky | trying that ty |
| 02:40.44 | ShadowTiger | i cant remember that many more quotes |
| 02:41.07 | ubdead | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7C9rc6887s |
| 02:41.20 | ubdead | that's about all of them |
| 02:41.31 | Lyrrad | I'm hoping for a bunch of good cut sceens in SP |
| 02:41.49 | ShadowTiger | oh yeah witchdoctor was funny |
| 02:41.59 | ubdead | "Im having a mid death crisis" |
| 02:42.02 | ubdead | HAHA |
| 02:42.23 | Megalon | Let me atract the human males with my human call...IM SO WASTED IM SO WASTED! |
| 02:42.24 | ubdead | "I dont remember casting slow on you" |
| 02:42.27 | Megalon | ;D |
| 02:42.28 | ubdead | OUCHHH ZING |
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| 02:45.45 | heysparky | guh... triggers arcane in their own way... |
| 02:46.00 | onisagi | upgrade to galaxy code! |
| 02:46.19 | ShadowTiger | does anybody know how specializations work? |
| 02:46.48 | onisagi | in what context? |
| 02:46.56 | heysparky | were I more C savvy onisagi I would |
| 02:47.03 | ShadowTiger | in any context |
| 02:47.14 | ShadowTiger | ability -> specialization |
| 02:47.15 | Alpha_vst | woot my camera reset ability works yummy |
| 02:47.17 | onisagi | C isnt too hard to learn if you're willing to |
| 02:47.35 | Alpha_vst | now i have a sex cam |
| 02:47.48 | onisagi | but galaxy isnt C |
| 02:47.50 | Alpha_vst | that sounds bad :P |
| 02:48.01 | heysparky | no, it's not, I'm in a C class right now... but it takes time |
| 02:48.02 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dua2LWlPCIs |
| 02:48.06 | deathnight114 | Listen/rate/comment |
| 02:48.08 | deathnight114 | please |
| 02:48.09 | Alpha_vst | Who wants a movie? |
| 02:48.11 | heysparky | galaxy is close to C no? |
| 02:48.11 | Lyrrad | Well...it would probably win you the cut sceen contest |
| 02:48.37 | onisagi | a little bit |
| 02:48.45 | onisagi | but yu can say the same for alot of programming languages |
| 02:49.05 | Zoxc | it looked like C |
| 02:49.07 | heysparky | hmmm, you know, I'm just repeating what I heard |
| 02:49.13 | Lyrrad | death - I get told there is no video |
| 02:49.19 | heysparky | i'll go on my merry triggering way |
| 02:49.47 | Lyrrad | ok it worked that time |
| 02:49.48 | Zoxc | heysparky: Don't repeat what you've heard without verifing it :) |
| 02:50.07 | onisagi | hah |
| 02:50.14 | onisagi | indeed |
| 02:51.18 | onisagi | sorry shadow, i wish i could help. i have no idea what you mean |
| 02:51.21 | Ignorance | okay, so it does find the actual angle |
| 02:51.31 | Ignorance | if you're having spherical coordinate problems |
| 02:51.31 | ShadowTiger | its okay |
| 02:51.34 | heysparky | well, I trust it because I know of other games written on stripped down C |
| 02:51.42 | ShadowTiger | i would imagine nobody knows what they do |
| 02:51.48 | Ignorance | you should make the X-Z angle take the absolute value of X in the arctan. |
| 02:51.59 | onisagi | can yu gimme an example of a specialization? |
| 02:52.00 | Ignorance | That way, it never does crazy shit when it goes greater than 90 degrees. |
| 02:52.04 | Alpha_vst | no one wants a movie? :( |
| 02:52.08 | heysparky | but I can't verify it... so meh |
| 02:52.30 | heysparky | smart people here said it |
| 02:52.51 | heysparky | C without pointers |
| 02:53.12 | Lyrrad | Alpha are you trying to show off your sex cam? |
| 02:53.14 | heysparky | that point folks seem to decry the most |
| 02:53.47 | Alpha_vst | yes :P |
| 02:53.48 | onisagi | only in syntax heysparky |
| 02:54.02 | heysparky | well, syntax is... rather important |
| 02:54.04 | onisagi | a language is much more than just syntax |
| 02:54.06 | ShadowTiger | its just a type of an ability oni |
| 02:54.13 | onisagi | because yu could say C++ is the same as C |
| 02:54.18 | ShadowTiger | its kind of like research/upgrades |
| 02:54.21 | onisagi | but they call those two different languages |
| 02:54.29 | onisagi | but its becuz C++ is derived off of C |
| 02:54.51 | heysparky | it's a more direct descendant than other languages, yet? |
| 02:54.53 | deathnight114 | Lyrrad: it's pretty much the same song as before, if you were there, very small un noticable changes, but i'm using that video in a contest :P |
| 02:54.53 | heysparky | yes |
| 02:54.54 | heysparky | ? |
| 02:55.10 | heysparky | specifiically because of hte similarities in syntax, yes? |
| 02:55.12 | Que | is it possible to modify unit data through triggers? |
| 02:55.18 | onisagi | i would say Galaxy LOOKS like a dumbed down C |
| 02:55.36 | Lyrrad | I didn;t see the video |
| 02:55.50 | Lyrrad | Just cool green swirly lines |
| 02:56.00 | Lyrrad | I think YouTube hates me |
| 02:56.02 | onisagi | learning C will definitely help you code better in Galaxy tho |
| 02:56.56 | heysparky | as I said, still fledgling C programmer |
| 02:57.04 | heysparky | so, I'll stick with triggers/data |
| 02:57.10 | onisagi | first year? |
| 02:57.19 | onisagi | yu got time |
| 02:57.20 | heysparky | just taking some classes |
| 02:57.29 | heysparky | lol, college was over a decade ago |
| 02:57.32 | onisagi | maybe yu can even learn galaxy to aid yur C learning |
| 02:57.56 | heysparky | I'm trying to make that case to my professor |
| 02:58.00 | heysparky | :) |
| 02:58.09 | Lyrrad | C is a good one to learn for gaming in general, popular choice for map editors |
| 02:58.11 | onisagi | make them teach a class on it |
| 02:58.19 | heysparky | I was thinking about it |
| 02:58.30 | heysparky | great way to get people excited about learning |
| 02:58.40 | heysparky | they teach Alice in the intro courses |
| 02:58.47 | heysparky | Alice is... sorta fun |
| 02:58.54 | heysparky | it's FREE |
| 02:58.55 | onisagi | yes, seeing their work compiled into a SC2 map |
| 02:59.39 | onisagi | way better than those interpreted languages |
| 03:02.11 | onisagi | we need some more people updating wiki pages! |
| 03:02.35 | heysparky | awesome, adding regions worked like a charm |
| 03:02.36 | heysparky | :D |
| 03:05.43 | heysparky | so great when things work like you expect them to on the first attempt |
| 03:06.15 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/ by onisagi |
| 03:06.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster Savvis (~Savvis@68.140.71.195) |
| 03:06.48 | onisagi | oh shit ... ahaha... |
| 03:07.01 | onisagi | it DOES spam this channel |
| 03:07.26 | onisagi | wow sorry if that annoyed anyone in the past |
| 03:08.06 | heysparky | oh... you're THAT onisagi! |
| 03:08.17 | heysparky | j/k |
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| 03:11.10 | deathnight114 | Lyrrad |
| 03:11.12 | deathnight114 | It's not a video |
| 03:11.14 | deathnight114 | It' music |
| 03:11.16 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 03:11.25 | deathnight114 | not supposed to be a vidoe |
| 03:11.26 | ShadowTiger | yeah that song was pretty good btw |
| 03:11.27 | deathnight114 | That's just a song i made |
| 03:11.30 | deathnight114 | :P |
| 03:11.33 | deathnight114 | comment on it |
| 03:11.34 | deathnight114 | ^^ |
| 03:11.51 | deathnight114 | I would really appreciate it :D |
| 03:11.54 | ShadowTiger | I tried messing with FL studio |
| 03:12.06 | ShadowTiger | but I couldnt figure out how to adjust the synth instruments |
| 03:12.15 | ShadowTiger | too many knobs/dials |
| 03:12.18 | Lyrrad | Well...the video on it was pretty good then :-) |
| 03:12.28 | deathnight114 | :P |
| 03:12.32 | deathnight114 | If you want |
| 03:12.35 | deathnight114 | I could show you some stuff |
| 03:12.37 | deathnight114 | on there |
| 03:12.43 | Que | just look for a tut on youtube |
| 03:12.46 | deathnight114 | Just request a tutorial |
| 03:12.54 | deathnight114 | And i'll upload a video |
| 03:12.56 | deathnight114 | Showing how |
| 03:12.56 | Vailreth | less than half an hour left on my youtube upload |
| 03:12.57 | Lyrrad | You just mentioned watching, so I figured there was supposed to be video |
| 03:13.04 | deathnight114 | oh |
| 03:13.06 | deathnight114 | well |
| 03:13.07 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 03:13.09 | deathnight114 | I tend to do that |
| 03:13.54 | deathnight114 | comment people!!! |
| 03:13.55 | deathnight114 | D: |
| 03:14.07 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dua2LWlPCIs |
| 03:14.12 | ShadowTiger | i need to make another video for my youtube channel |
| 03:14.19 | ShadowTiger | my suscribers must miss me |
| 03:14.20 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 03:14.23 | deathnight114 | I need a good music channel |
| 03:14.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster The (~63f8d183@gateway/web/freenode/x-pugccftoppzihlxw) |
| 03:14.24 | Alpha_vst | weee |
| 03:14.25 | deathnight114 | Lol |
| 03:14.27 | Alpha_vst | movie is done |
| 03:14.27 | deathnight114 | I know how you feel |
| 03:14.29 | deathnight114 | A long time ago |
| 03:14.32 | deathnight114 | My account was deleted |
| 03:14.36 | deathnight114 | EVERYTHING |
| 03:14.38 | deathnight114 | was gone |
| 03:14.42 | deathnight114 | accept my subscribers |
| 03:14.47 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 03:14.51 | deathnight114 | I was pissed |
| 03:14.59 | deathnight114 | :< |
| 03:15.05 | deathnight114 | I was trying to delete another account |
| 03:15.05 | Alpha_vst | QQ |
| 03:15.09 | deathnight114 | But i accedently logged onto mine |
| 03:15.14 | Alpha_vst | I FOR GOT TO START THE MOVIE NOOO |
| 03:15.17 | ShadowTiger | well thats just silly |
| 03:15.22 | deathnight114 | :< |
| 03:15.24 | deathnight114 | yup |
| 03:15.26 | deathnight114 | certainly was |
| 03:15.37 | deathnight114 | I had 285 subscribers |
| 03:15.41 | deathnight114 | and 0 vids |
| 03:15.44 | deathnight114 | :P |
| 03:16.02 | deathnight114 | Atleast it wasn't the worst |
| 03:16.14 | deathnight114 | a guy named bl00dBlitz got his ACC Deleted once |
| 03:16.23 | deathnight114 | he had 300 thousand subscribers and no videos |
| 03:16.27 | Reactorex | 0 subscribers, 285 vids. |
| 03:16.28 | deathnight114 | I think that's what it was |
| 03:16.35 | deathnight114 | okay now that would be sad |
| 03:16.37 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 03:16.39 | Reactorex | xD |
| 03:16.58 | deathnight114 | Shadowtiger |
| 03:17.03 | deathnight114 | can you comment on the vid atleast? |
| 03:17.07 | deathnight114 | I'm trying to get it quiet a few comments |
| 03:17.09 | deathnight114 | early on |
| 03:17.19 | deathnight114 | to try to get it on the most discussed list |
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| 03:23.07 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tanks-war/. Tanks War. sera141 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 03:23.12 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tiny-greenhouse-defense/. Tiny Greenhouse Defense. pecore (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 03:26.15 | Mojache | Skizot you around? |
| 03:26.53 | Skizot | yup |
| 03:27.13 | Skizot | discussing the finer points of atan2 |
| 03:27.25 | Mojache | the program you guys are using for custom models |
| 03:27.29 | Mojache | can it do animations yet? |
| 03:27.32 | Mojache | or rather |
| 03:27.33 | Mojache | the plug in |
| 03:27.36 | Skizot | nope |
| 03:27.41 | Mojache | damn it |
| 03:27.44 | Skizot | think of it as a "doodad exporter" |
| 03:27.46 | Skizot | why? |
| 03:28.02 | Mojache | Ziros is trying to sign me on to doing a full Warcraft 4 conversion method |
| 03:28.09 | Skizot | LOL |
| 03:28.10 | Mojache | and just using WoW models |
| 03:28.27 | Skizot | well... nin is SUPPOSED to be working on adding animations next |
| 03:28.33 | Skizot | he has the materials set. |
| 03:28.35 | heysparky | are wow models low poly enough |
| 03:28.43 | Skizot | the wow models would be fine. |
| 03:28.48 | Mojache | Wow models will be fine |
| 03:29.00 | Skizot | you see my latest creation mojache? |
| 03:29.10 | Mojache | negative what you working on now |
| 03:29.10 | TheLaughingMan | http://i40.tinypic.com/f287m.jpg, Preview I have with custom buttons for dialogs |
| 03:29.13 | `228zip | Aren't WoW textures BLP ? |
| 03:29.34 | `228zip | .blp |
| 03:29.43 | TheLaughingMan | Yes |
| 03:29.45 | Mojache | Custom Buttons? Phss what is this April 2010 |
| 03:29.58 | Skizot | http://i42.tinypic.com/2m7tf04.jpg |
| 03:30.09 | Mojache | oh yeah I saw those |
| 03:30.23 | Skizot | sexy eh? |
| 03:30.23 | Mojache | oh man two player? |
| 03:30.25 | Mojache | one drives one shoots? |
| 03:30.31 | Skizot | ask zip |
| 03:30.32 | Skizot | lol |
| 03:30.35 | Skizot | it's his map. |
| 03:30.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Motive (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:30.46 | Sixen | zip? |
| 03:30.47 | Skizot | he just requested buggies |
| 03:30.50 | Motive | :D |
| 03:30.51 | Skizot | 228zip |
| 03:30.56 | Sixen | Oh gotcha |
| 03:31.18 | Skizot | i'm still trying to iron out my sidescroller :( |
| 03:31.28 | Skizot | but i DO have a first boss setup. |
| 03:31.37 | Skizot | just lacking you know... THE BOSS. |
| 03:31.40 | heysparky | flames skizot! |
| 03:32.02 | Motive | make the boss a giant wave of scourge |
| 03:32.09 | Motive | and you have to jump/shoot them cause if they hit you you die. |
| 03:32.25 | Skizot | well i have a mini cinematic for it. |
| 03:32.27 | Skizot | wanna see? |
| 03:32.31 | Motive | k |
| 03:32.35 | Skizot | i was about to test the spawns for it anyways |
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| 03:32.50 | Skizot | http://www.livestream.com/skizot |
| 03:32.59 | Alpha_vst | FUCK about time |
| 03:33.10 | Mojache | oh man |
| 03:33.14 | Alpha_vst | got a good game and didnt get screwed |
| 03:33.17 | Mojache | you should see the boss of the lava level |
| 03:33.20 | Mojache | its fucking epic |
| 03:33.32 | Mojache | man I hope you guys get animations working |
| 03:33.33 | Skizot | help me code up a boss. |
| 03:33.35 | Skizot | :P |
| 03:33.46 | Motive | oh man skizot , if I had that editor |
| 03:33.46 | deathnight114 | Wow |
| 03:33.55 | deathnight114 | He's got a lot IRC |
| 03:33.56 | deathnight114 | i think..... |
| 03:34.00 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/ by onisagi |
| 03:34.08 | Motive | I'd code you such an amazing shooting, jumping, and awesome system. |
| 03:34.10 | Sixen | Yay onisagi! |
| 03:34.17 | Motive | I'd like dedicate my life to it |
| 03:34.23 | Skizot | you watching the stream? |
| 03:34.26 | Motive | yup |
| 03:35.14 | Motive | it looks a lot nicer now. :P |
| 03:36.15 | Motive | Oh wow, nice. |
| 03:36.53 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/window/lighting/ by sixen |
| 03:36.55 | Skizot | :D |
| 03:36.56 | Mojache | man you guys need to get animations going |
| 03:37.02 | Mojache | warcraft 4 mod |
| 03:37.04 | Skizot | we WANT animations. |
| 03:37.08 | Motive | I am impressed. :) |
| 03:37.09 | Mojache | could get the whole community on that puppy |
| 03:37.40 | Skizot | it's still gimpy. |
| 03:38.00 | Skizot | honestly it needs custom animations as well. |
| 03:38.11 | TheLaughingMan | http://i39.tinypic.com/2rrm3rn.jpg |
| 03:38.35 | Motive | What are you trying to do LaughingMan? o_O |
| 03:38.57 | TheLaughingMan | I created a template people can use to make the buttons |
| 03:39.02 | Motive | Oh, cool. |
| 03:39.20 | TheLaughingMan | It's wierd |
| 03:40.45 | Skizot | hmmm for some reason. |
| 03:40.50 | Skizot | you can walk through the walks. |
| 03:41.06 | Alpha_vst | a template for buttons? |
| 03:41.20 | Alpha_vst | whats hard about buttons? |
| 03:41.26 | TheLaughingMan | Now I have three requests for blizzard, one is already doable but is stupid and two are actuall features that would be nice |
| 03:41.44 | TheLaughingMan | WHATS HARD ABOUT BUTTONS?! |
| 03:41.46 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/data-type/ by onisagi |
| 03:42.21 | TheLaughingMan | It's no simpe 62 x 62 picture you can use |
| 03:42.22 | Skizot | uhhh |
| 03:42.25 | Skizot | 64x64 |
| 03:42.30 | Skizot | learn you powers of 2 |
| 03:42.32 | Skizot | nub |
| 03:42.34 | TheLaughingMan | err yea 64x64 |
| 03:42.52 | TheLaughingMan | IT'S THE MOST COMPLICATED IMAGE FORMAT THAT THERE IS FOR SC2! |
| 03:42.59 | Skizot | ...... |
| 03:43.00 | Motive | Lol I remember that paid off so well for like one day in math class in like 7th grade. |
| 03:43.05 | Skizot | you ARE kidding right? |
| 03:43.07 | TheLaughingMan | http://i44.tinypic.com/2hrea0l.png |
| 03:43.08 | Alpha_vst | who is excited to see my awesome new camera |
| 03:43.23 | TheLaughingMan | That file produces the preview one I posted before |
| 03:43.42 | TheLaughingMan | There is alot a 2nd half on the bottom for when you click on the button |
| 03:43.44 | Alpha_vst | ohhh |
| 03:44.24 | TheLaughingMan | also a 2nd half^ |
| 03:44.48 | mahashiro | how do we make folders in the data editor? |
| 03:44.52 | mahashiro | I want to organize my data |
| 03:44.55 | Alpha_vst | you dont |
| 03:45.05 | mahashiro | ? |
| 03:45.12 | Alpha_vst | give them prefixes |
| 03:45.13 | Skizot | ugh dammit.. how do i create a doodad? |
| 03:45.15 | heysparky | best you can do is a naming convention |
| 03:45.15 | mahashiro | seems like you should be able to |
| 03:45.22 | TheLaughingMan | Use... |
| 03:45.31 | TheLaughingMan | Prefix, Suffix, Race |
| 03:45.31 | mahashiro | they have the melee and campaign folders |
| 03:45.45 | heysparky | yup, those too |
| 03:45.54 | TheLaughingMan | Thos are the only folders |
| 03:46.57 | Skizot | well shit. |
| 03:46.57 | ubdead | hey is there a way to unload a certain unit (stored in a var) from a transport |
| 03:46.57 | TheLaughingMan | Then it's normal divided up by race, type, prefix, suffix |
| 03:46.57 | ubdead | i can only get all of them to unload |
| 03:46.57 | TheLaughingMan | yes |
| 03:46.57 | ubdead | not just one of them |
| 03:48.25 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 03:48.44 | Alpha_vst | my video is almost done saving :P |
| 03:48.56 | Alpha_vst | this game has coem far in 3 days |
| 03:49.02 | TheLaughingMan | Hmm |
| 03:49.04 | Alpha_vst | since i have been pushing my self |
| 03:49.08 | Alpha_vst | with these videos |
| 03:50.09 | ubdead | bah you cant unload a single unit from the transport |
| 03:50.22 | TheLaughingMan | ubdead, try issueing an order to the transport targeting the cargo unit |
| 03:50.22 | Alpha_vst | sure you can thats dumb if not |
| 03:50.39 | ubdead | define "an order" |
| 03:50.47 | TheLaughingMan | hmm |
| 03:50.48 | ubdead | the only order availible is "Unload-All |
| 03:50.50 | Alpha_vst | order targeting unit |
| 03:50.54 | deathnight114 | http://web.archive.org/web/20061110001556/www.youtube.com/ |
| 03:50.56 | deathnight114 | Ahh |
| 03:51.04 | deathnight114 | I remember when youtube used to look like that |
| 03:51.06 | deathnight114 | :D |
| 03:51.14 | TheLaughingMan | There is a load order also |
| 03:51.24 | TheLaughingMan | Which I think does the opposite on a unit already loaded |
| 03:51.35 | ubdead | that could work |
| 03:51.57 | Alpha_vst | http://web.archive.org/web/20050428014715/http://www.youtube.com/ best utube ever :D |
| 03:52.06 | deathnight114 | yup |
| 03:52.15 | deathnight114 | http://web.archive.org/web/20070510141920/www.youtube.com/profile?user=MediocreFilms |
| 03:52.19 | deathnight114 | Old channels there too |
| 03:52.21 | deathnight114 | :D |
| 03:52.34 | Skizot | dammit this sucks :( |
| 03:52.48 | Alpha_vst | what skizot? |
| 03:52.55 | Skizot | i want this map to be awesome. |
| 03:53.02 | Alpha_vst | we all do |
| 03:53.12 | Skizot | but it's got some many GLARING issues :( |
| 03:53.19 | Alpha_vst | we all do :D |
| 03:53.21 | TheLaughingMan | Skizot, use custom dialog buttons it adds +10 awesome to a map |
| 03:53.30 | Skizot | mine is just my shooting code... |
| 03:53.39 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 03:53.44 | TheLaughingMan | Also +2 awesome for custom icons |
| 03:53.52 | Skizot | which is ... you know.. 9 PERCENT OF IT'S GAMEPLAY |
| 03:53.54 | Alpha_vst | really? |
| 03:53.57 | Skizot | 90* |
| 03:54.03 | Alpha_vst | im goign to be at like +12 soon |
| 03:54.17 | TheLaughingMan | Anyone know how to petitition blizzard for features |
| 03:54.23 | Alpha_vst | you dont |
| 03:54.39 | TheLaughingMan | There is 1 feature that makes no sense as to why it isn't there |
| 03:54.46 | Alpha_vst | what? |
| 03:55.36 | `228zip | Latency.. how I hate you. |
| 03:55.43 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 03:55.45 | TheLaughingMan | Setting the default image of a dialog button item, you can set the default hover image which changes how the button looks when you hover over it. But to change the image you have to use the Set Dialog Item Image |
| 03:56.15 | `228zip | I have a little problem with latency, we just discovered that with arthas |
| 03:56.17 | Alpha_vst | so? |
| 03:56.39 | `228zip | The click event only triggers after a few ms |
| 03:56.46 | Alpha_vst | yeah 228 thats why im staying away from fancy maps that use a lot of button presses |
| 03:57.01 | `228zip | However the original X and Y of the mouse are the correct one |
| 03:57.23 | `228zip | So my angle is fucked up because it uses the original X and Y of the target with the new X and Y of the car |
| 03:57.24 | TheLaughingMan | It's easier on the cpu/memory when you have 250+ custom dialog buttons to be able to set the default one instead of loading up one and changing it |
| 03:57.25 | `228zip | Bad bad bad |
| 03:57.59 | Arthas- | indeed, crap latency :\ |
| 03:58.34 | Alpha_vst | true tlm :P |
| 03:58.38 | ubdead | well the load thing doesnt work |
| 03:58.47 | Alpha_vst | but needed that many buttons is crazy :D |
| 03:58.51 | `228zip | Good night everyone! |
| 03:58.59 | Alpha_vst | needing :P |
| 03:58.59 | ubdead | good morning zip lol |
| 03:59.04 | `228zip | I still don't see how you need 250 buttons but eh |
| 03:59.04 | TheLaughingMan | 250 buttons...would add... |
| 03:59.11 | `228zip | 6AM |
| 03:59.13 | Arthas- | good morning indeed |
| 03:59.15 | ubdead | i know lol |
| 03:59.18 | `228zip | ='( |
| 03:59.23 | Arthas- | have to go to bed before the sun enlightens the bedroom |
| 03:59.30 | ubdead | ye me too lol |
| 03:59.34 | Arthas- | and sleep through the horrible heat |
| 03:59.37 | Arthas- | nite guys :) |
| 03:59.39 | `228zip | The birds won't let me sleep! |
| 03:59.40 | ubdead | gn |
| 03:59.42 | TheLaughingMan | 0.8 Mb to a map |
| 03:59.47 | ubdead | i feel ya zip |
| 04:01.10 | TheLaughingMan | If you have a fancy MMO map where each invetory type slot is fancy, along with any other custom dialog buttons |
| 04:01.32 | TheLaughingMan | It's plausible |
| 04:01.59 | TheLaughingMan | There already had it planeed to use different buttons for different things |
| 04:02.15 | TheLaughingMan | like equipment, autocast, charges, abilities, etc. |
| 04:02.24 | rrowland | 250 is plausible |
| 04:02.28 | rrowland | 70,000 isn't |
| 04:02.44 | TheLaughingMan | Or I hope they did, cause they left about 50 files left over if they didn't |
| 04:02.54 | ubdead | NeoDeathXp has over 9000 buttons |
| 04:03.09 | ubdead | (and not as in the meme over 9000, literally) |
| 04:03.16 | TheLaughingMan | From what? |
| 04:03.29 | rrowland | Not knowing how to use arrays lol |
| 04:03.49 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 04:04.00 | TheLaughingMan | I have... |
| 04:04.01 | rrowland | He's trying to make the chrystarium or w/e from ff13 |
| 04:04.14 | rrowland | And apparently it takes like 9000 unique buttons he thinks |
| 04:04.34 | rrowland | I'm like pretty sure it's maybe a maximum of 100 buttons recycled 90 times |
| 04:04.34 | TheLaughingMan | close to 15,000 icons for SC2 |
| 04:04.44 | TheLaughingMan | all unique |
| 04:05.05 | TheLaughingMan | Still need to finish some of them off |
| 04:05.28 | Alpha_vst | wow |
| 04:05.59 | TheLaughingMan | I have every blizzard game |
| 04:06.50 | TheLaughingMan | + EvE Online, Guild Wars, Sup Com 1 & 2 |
| 04:06.59 | Alpha_vst | i never got into eve online |
| 04:07.03 | rrowland | You just rip icons from every game you play? |
| 04:07.04 | rrowland | lol |
| 04:07.10 | Alpha_vst | why not? |
| 04:07.14 | TheLaughingMan | Rip & Convert |
| 04:07.17 | ubdead | Unit - Order (Transport that rines[(Triggering player)] is in) to ( Load (Medivac) rines[(Triggering player)]) (Replace Existing Orders) |
| 04:07.25 | ubdead | any idea why that wont work? |
| 04:07.30 | rrowland | No reason why not, I've just never heard of that before |
| 04:08.05 | Alpha_vst | looks correct ubdead |
| 04:08.19 | ubdead | it seems troubled at the "load order" |
| 04:08.30 | ubdead | if i give it the unload all order |
| 04:08.33 | ubdead | no problem |
| 04:08.40 | TheLaughingMan | but it unloads all? |
| 04:08.52 | ubdead | the trigger i posted does nothing |
| 04:09.03 | TheLaughingMan | Does the unload all do something? |
| 04:09.04 | ubdead | and i tested the unit |
| 04:09.11 | ubdead | the unit reference is correct |
| 04:09.20 | ubdead | and the transport reference is correct |
| 04:09.28 | ubdead | and the unload all, unloads all of them |
| 04:09.45 | ubdead | it seems there is no way to unload a single unit |
| 04:10.03 | TheLaughingMan | wait a second |
| 04:11.40 | rrowland | Is there an easy way to make a unit die a certain way (acid, fire, etc) without going through all the loops with effects and abilities? |
| 04:11.43 | rrowland | Via trigger |
| 04:12.14 | TheLaughingMan | Deal custom lethal damage to it that is a specific type |
| 04:12.35 | ubdead | well fuck this, im going to bed |
| 04:12.36 | rrowland | I can set the type in triggers? |
| 04:12.42 | ubdead | gn all |
| 04:13.25 | rrowland | Blah I hate messing with effects / abilities |
| 04:13.38 | Alpha_vst | I want you all to see my video :( |
| 04:13.47 | rrowland | show us then |
| 04:13.56 | Alpha_vst | its uploading to slowtube :P |
| 04:14.11 | Alpha_vst | or rendering 0.o |
| 04:14.27 | Alpha_vst | or what ever they do to it |
| 04:15.40 | rrowland | ah |
| 04:15.59 | Alpha_vst | not as awesome as what you have done :P but i likes it |
| 04:16.24 | rrowland | Here's my newest map |
| 04:16.25 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B16eAS1dwA&feature=player_embedded |
| 04:18.25 | Alpha_vst | are you serious? :D |
| 04:19.18 | rrowland | lol |
| 04:19.22 | rrowland | I wish I were that cool |
| 04:19.40 | Alpha_vst | thats amazing |
| 04:20.23 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/modules/data/data-type/ by onisagi |
| 04:21.12 | Alpha_vst | your ui thing was awesome though :P |
| 04:21.20 | rrowland | lol |
| 04:21.23 | rrowland | Not as amazing as that UI |
| 04:21.27 | Alpha_vst | how did you do that? |
| 04:21.38 | rrowland | Like 48 hours straight of headaches |
| 04:22.00 | Alpha_vst | did you mod the actual files? |
| 04:22.07 | rrowland | Nope, all triggers |
| 04:22.11 | Alpha_vst | really? |
| 04:22.14 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 04:22.19 | rrowland | And imported images of course |
| 04:22.23 | rrowland | But other than that |
| 04:23.00 | Alpha_vst | how did you mod the unit selection thingy 0.o |
| 04:23.10 | rrowland | The bottom middle? |
| 04:23.14 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 04:23.22 | rrowland | Well the way the layout works |
| 04:23.41 | rrowland | bottom left and bottom right are fixed to bottom right and bottom left, the thing in the middle is aligned bottom middle |
| 04:23.47 | rrowland | Then behind them is one long black bar |
| 04:23.52 | rrowland | That fills in the space between |
| 04:24.05 | rrowland | So I just cover the middle part |
| 04:24.10 | rrowland | And it works in all resolutions |
| 04:24.20 | Alpha_vst | i tired that failed hard :P |
| 04:26.50 | Alpha_vst | i need to make my camera work for all players now woot |
| 04:27.03 | Alpha_vst | i really want to get into upgrades though :P |
| 04:27.15 | rory959 | i'm back duy's a champ |
| 04:27.32 | rrowland | I'm having such a huge brain fart right now |
| 04:27.40 | rrowland | I can't remember how to cast an ability on a unit with a trigger |
| 04:27.42 | rrowland | From a player |
| 04:27.58 | rrowland | Nevermind I remembered |
| 04:28.02 | Alpha_vst | issue order targeting unit? |
| 04:28.14 | rrowland | Nah it's just an effect that does 5000 acid damage to then |
| 04:28.15 | rrowland | them* |
| 04:28.19 | rrowland | So they can die all pretty like |
| 04:28.25 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:29.14 | rrowland | I have 3 different types of weapon |
| 04:29.24 | rrowland | acid, fire, frozen |
| 04:29.25 | rrowland | So |
| 04:29.28 | Alpha_vst | nice |
| 04:29.31 | rrowland | 3 different ways to die |
| 04:29.56 | rrowland | I have a couple aura buffs/debuffs too, I wish I had some aura-looking effects |
| 04:29.56 | Alpha_vst | i need to add the little things to my map still lol |
| 04:30.12 | rrowland | Once I'm done with this though, that's all my items implemented |
| 04:30.14 | Alpha_vst | yeah i need some of those |
| 04:30.17 | rrowland | Put in 24 today |
| 04:30.21 | rrowland | So much work |
| 04:30.24 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:30.31 | rrowland | Cause they all did something unique |
| 04:30.40 | Alpha_vst | sweet |
| 04:30.46 | rrowland | Not just changing the "how much damage does this do" number |
| 04:30.57 | Alpha_vst | no? |
| 04:31.01 | rrowland | nope |
| 04:31.02 | Alpha_vst | awwwwww :D |
| 04:31.11 | rrowland | Can't wait for bnet to support custom maps |
| 04:31.17 | Alpha_vst | same |
| 04:31.18 | rrowland | I want to play vs 13 other people |
| 04:31.19 | rrowland | On my map |
| 04:31.20 | rrowland | :P |
| 04:31.24 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:31.28 | rrowland | I'll win of course |
| 04:31.30 | Alpha_vst | my map is up to 10 players |
| 04:31.31 | rrowland | But it'll still be fun |
| 04:31.34 | Alpha_vst | of course |
| 04:31.46 | rrowland | Ever play archer wars? |
| 04:31.48 | rrowland | in wc3 |
| 04:31.51 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 04:31.55 | Alpha_vst | i stayed away from wc3 |
| 04:32.02 | Alpha_vst | played it for like a month |
| 04:32.05 | Alpha_vst | never got the xpac |
| 04:33.16 | rrowland | aw |
| 04:33.21 | rrowland | sniper wars in sc? lol |
| 04:33.27 | Alpha_vst | yeah :P |
| 04:33.29 | heysparky | lol rrowland, that video was awesome |
| 04:33.35 | Alpha_vst | it was awesome |
| 04:33.54 | rrowland | Well it's nothing like that because the triggers were so bad the only way you could kill another unit was by 1-shotting them with a ghost lol |
| 04:33.56 | Alpha_vst | GAH THIS VIDEO IS PROCESSING SLOW |
| 04:34.01 | rrowland | But it's called sniper wars anyway |
| 04:34.07 | heysparky | poster needs to edit the comment tho... Blizzard/Activision is too modern |
| 04:34.11 | Skizot | i'm bored and now depressed. i need a project. |
| 04:34.22 | rrowland | You already made a dick model for that guy's map? |
| 04:34.47 | Skizot | no |
| 04:34.52 | Skizot | i refuse |
| 04:34.55 | rrowland | chop chop |
| 04:35.04 | Alpha_vst | make me a cave skizot :D |
| 04:35.17 | Skizot | poof you are a cave |
| 04:35.26 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 04:35.34 | Skizot | i want a good project |
| 04:35.38 | Skizot | some just a doodad |
| 04:35.42 | Skizot | not* |
| 04:36.05 | heysparky | I wish with a fiery burning passion that Blizz didn't use green overlays on active buttons in the editor |
| 04:36.18 | Alpha_vst | why |
| 04:36.50 | heysparky | I don't like the thing I'm using obscured |
| 04:36.52 | heysparky | not a big deal |
| 04:37.00 | rrowland | umm |
| 04:37.06 | heysparky | fiery burning passion was a bit of hyperbole |
| 04:37.07 | rrowland | I think something's wrong with your editor |
| 04:37.14 | rrowland | Cause I see all my buttons fine when they're pressed down |
| 04:37.23 | Alpha_vst | same |
| 04:37.25 | heysparky | like terrain editing |
| 04:37.25 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 04:37.37 | heysparky | green overlays on teh mode buttons |
| 04:37.51 | Alpha_vst | ohhhh i see what you mean |
| 04:37.53 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:38.08 | Alpha_vst | you mean the thing that says hey look this is what you have selected |
| 04:38.27 | rrowland | Hmmm my effects don't seem to work |
| 04:38.32 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 04:38.38 | Alpha_vst | didnt you test them |
| 04:38.50 | rrowland | That's what I'm doing now |
| 04:39.05 | Alpha_vst | you made 24 items and didnt test them at all? |
| 04:39.12 | rrowland | No just the last 4 |
| 04:39.16 | Alpha_vst | oh |
| 04:39.18 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:39.20 | rrowland | lol |
| 04:39.26 | rrowland | The last 4 are my weapons |
| 04:39.31 | rrowland | 3 are diff elemental ways to die |
| 04:39.31 | Alpha_vst | ops |
| 04:39.38 | rrowland | last one is just a ton of normal damage with no gimmick |
| 04:39.39 | rrowland | lol |
| 04:39.44 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 04:39.47 | Alpha_vst | lame :P |
| 04:40.12 | rrowland | Okay so |
| 04:40.14 | rrowland | I have this effect |
| 04:40.19 | rrowland | Effect Damage |
| 04:40.24 | rrowland | Hurt enemy, 5000 |
| 04:40.31 | rrowland | death fire |
| 04:40.51 | rrowland | I use environment - create effect on unit from player |
| 04:40.58 | rrowland | with that effect |
| 04:41.00 | rrowland | And nothing happens |
| 04:42.14 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 04:42.33 | rrowland | figured it out :) |
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| 04:42.39 | rrowland | I had it set to do damage at caster |
| 04:42.42 | rrowland | instead of target |
| 04:42.48 | rrowland | Now my shit melts when I want it to melt |
| 04:42.52 | rrowland | burns when I want it to burn |
| 04:42.55 | heysparky | looks awesome, don |
| 04:42.57 | rrowland | And freezes when I want it to freeze |
| 04:42.58 | heysparky | don't it |
| 04:43.08 | Alpha_vst | sexy |
| 04:44.32 | TheLaughingMan | wierd |
| 04:44.32 | rrowland | Now I just need um |
| 04:44.36 | Koronis | hey guys, is it possible to create an array with the size of a variable ? (ie: myVariable = 5; myArray[myVariable];)?? |
| 04:44.40 | rrowland | Effects that stick to my bullet |
| 04:44.49 | rrowland | frost / acid mist / flames |
| 04:44.50 | Alpha_vst | what should i do next? fix the camera to work for all players, add in stats and saving, or add special abilities for the creatures to make it more exciting |
| 04:44.57 | Alpha_vst | or add in side quests |
| 04:46.48 | rrowland | stats and saving |
| 04:46.57 | Alpha_vst | Koronis myarray[#] the # is the section of the array you would do myArray[1]= myVariable |
| 04:47.42 | Alpha_vst | why do you have to be a downer rrowland? |
| 04:48.27 | rrowland | :( well apparently death by freezing doesn't exist |
| 04:48.40 | Alpha_vst | i didnt think it did |
| 04:48.46 | Alpha_vst | im sure it does in the ral game |
| 04:48.47 | rrowland | The death type does |
| 04:48.48 | Alpha_vst | real |
| 04:48.51 | rrowland | Lying death type pos |
| 04:48.59 | Alpha_vst | hmmmm |
| 04:50.37 | Alpha_vst | video is finished but low quality :( |
| 04:50.48 | Koronis | you are very right Alpha_vst lmao I'm tired :( |
| 04:51.23 | Alpha_vst | its ok i try my best to help :P |
| 04:51.32 | Koronis | then is it possible to do myArray = new myArray[myVariable]; or something like that |
| 04:52.11 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 04:52.42 | Koronis | where do I set the variable to be the size of the array? |
| 04:52.50 | Alpha_vst | in a trigger |
| 04:53.12 | Alpha_vst | as long as it outputs a interger you can use anything for [#] |
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| 04:54.03 | Koronis | fine ill try to find the action thx |
| 04:54.32 | Alpha_vst | set vairable |
| 04:56.22 | Statcomm | Ey folks, anything interesting going on? |
| 04:57.35 | Alpha_vst | nope well my video is almost done :D |
| 04:57.59 | Alpha_vst | need hd and i will share lol |
| 04:58.38 | Statcomm | Video? |
| 04:58.44 | Statcomm | Ah cinematic contest? |
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| 04:59.48 | Alpha_vst | nope just a preview of my map |
| 04:59.56 | Statcomm | Ah I see. Done soon? |
| 05:00.19 | TheLaughingMan | That is so wierd |
| 05:00.37 | TheLaughingMan | I know what command to issue for a medivac to unload a specific unit |
| 05:00.38 | Statcomm | ? |
| 05:00.44 | TheLaughingMan | but no idea on how to specify |
| 05:01.19 | Alpha_vst | put the unit into a unit group and pick that unit |
| 05:01.27 | TheLaughingMan | doesn't work |
| 05:01.33 | Alpha_vst | nope? |
| 05:01.46 | TheLaughingMan | The command that unloads a specific unit is an instant |
| 05:01.51 | TheLaughingMan | there is no target |
| 05:02.06 | Alpha_vst | nope? |
| 05:02.17 | TheLaughingMan | And it's also a hidden command you have to build from scratch also |
| 05:02.17 | Alpha_vst | you cant issue order tageting unit? |
| 05:02.37 | TheLaughingMan | It doesn't have a target |
| 05:02.44 | TheLaughingMan | it's an instant with no target |
| 05:02.57 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/preferences/ by dalsio |
| 05:03.05 | Alpha_vst | i think your doing it wrong |
| 05:03.13 | TheLaughingMan | No i am not doing it wrong |
| 05:03.17 | Alpha_vst | YOU ARE |
| 05:03.23 | Alpha_vst | DONT MAKE ME DO IT |
| 05:03.33 | TheLaughingMan | I am not making you do anything |
| 05:03.35 | Alpha_vst | you will owe me a cookie |
| 05:03.38 | TheLaughingMan | i am just making a comment |
| 05:03.54 | Alpha_vst | i know lol |
| 05:04.14 | Alpha_vst | im only kidding |
| 05:05.16 | Alpha_vst | im going to go play with it though |
| 05:06.04 | TheLaughingMan | It uses command #3 of the Ability Load-Unload (Medivac) |
| 05:06.33 | TheLaughingMan | which is one that you can't select normally, you have to generate it |
| 05:06.51 | TheLaughingMan | It's doing something to the unit |
| 05:06.58 | TheLaughingMan | and issueing the command |
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| 05:07.36 | blyind420 | hello |
| 05:08.05 | blyind420 | anyone know if it is possible to make a cannon fodder based map in sc2? |
| 05:08.23 | Skizot | very easy |
| 05:09.04 | blyind420 | maybe 4 u but never used wc3's map editor i only used to use sc1's map editor |
| 05:09.08 | blyind420 | im hella lost |
| 05:10.08 | Skizot | take a look at topdown fighters |
| 05:10.44 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 05:11.52 | blyind420 | whats so funny |
| 05:12.24 | Mojache | quick poll |
| 05:12.28 | Mojache | Walls in RTS games? |
| 05:12.41 | Arthas-2 | no |
| 05:12.47 | Mojache | why? |
| 05:12.50 | Alpha_vst | you mean supply depots |
| 05:12.53 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 05:12.57 | Skizot | why not? |
| 05:12.58 | Mojache | I mean in general |
| 05:13.01 | Mojache | the ability to build walls |
| 05:13.02 | Alpha_vst | a real wall no |
| 05:13.05 | Arthas-2 | supplies, walls as in c&c etc |
| 05:13.10 | Alpha_vst | its dumb |
| 05:13.10 | Arthas-2 | nvm |
| 05:13.14 | Arthas-2 | im not thinking straight |
| 05:13.20 | Arthas-2 | walls made me think of tiberium sun |
| 05:13.23 | Arthas-2 | walls are ok |
| 05:13.24 | Alpha_vst | never played c&c :P |
| 05:13.29 | Arthas-2 | destructible terrain is not |
| 05:13.29 | Mojache | it's dumb isn't a very good reason lol |
| 05:13.37 | Arthas-2 | ie a nuke, messing base up so you cant rebuild |
| 05:13.50 | Arthas-2 | unless you put asphalt for tons of cash there |
| 05:14.00 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 05:14.02 | Arthas-2 | which then, nukes wouldnt affect. or whatever weapons you used |
| 05:14.36 | Arthas-2 | been years since i played that game :p |
| 05:15.19 | Arthas-2 | i like walls in c&c more than the walls in SC |
| 05:15.44 | Arthas-2 | one would think a race that has flying buildings would be smart enough to build real walls instead of barricading with important buildings |
| 05:16.10 | Arthas-2 | all is mengsks fault. but 7:15 am here and i can barely keep my eyes open, later |
| 05:16.34 | Mojache | Air Units |
| 05:16.56 | Arthas-2 | as in? |
| 05:18.11 | Mojache | Do you like air units |
| 05:18.13 | Mojache | in RTS |
| 05:18.27 | Alpha_vst | CHECK IT OUT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI-343wHrI |
| 05:18.29 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 05:18.32 | Arthas-2 | Mojache depends |
| 05:18.36 | Arthas-2 | i hate the ones in sc2 |
| 05:18.56 | Arthas-2 | but generally yes |
| 05:19.12 | Arthas-2 | nothing like doing air raids in Total Annihilation :p |
| 05:19.31 | Alpha_vst | supply depots where never really intended to act as walls |
| 05:19.35 | Alpha_vst | it just came to be |
| 05:19.37 | Arthas-2 | Alpha_vst they are in sc2 |
| 05:19.49 | Arthas-2 | so why didnt they just add walls :p |
| 05:20.03 | Alpha_vst | because real walls are dumb |
| 05:20.15 | Bemoliph | Probably because a building that functions only as a meat shield is a waste of money |
| 05:20.17 | Arthas-2 | they are not |
| 05:20.25 | Bemoliph | People will just use their normal buildings instead |
| 05:20.32 | Alpha_vst | yeah a wall and a supply deopt have overlapping roles |
| 05:20.38 | Bemoliph | Well, any building |
| 05:20.57 | Bemoliph | You would have to make the walls offer something fairly significant over building anything else in its place |
| 05:21.06 | Bemoliph | And more health doesn't cut it |
| 05:21.10 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 05:21.15 | Bemoliph | People use extra barracks and factories or whatever to do that |
| 05:21.21 | Bemoliph | Or just build extra depots behind existing ones |
| 05:21.26 | blyind420 | so is there any tutorials for using the new map editor for the beta? or any tutorials relavrnt to making a cannon fodder map someone could kindly point me to? |
| 05:21.39 | Mojache | I'm not really talking about walls in SC2 |
| 05:21.44 | Alpha_vst | cannon fodder map? |
| 05:21.46 | Mojache | I'm just pooling general opinions |
| 05:21.55 | Arthas-2 | blyind420 |
| 05:21.56 | Arthas-2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIT4AOWUJQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 05:21.58 | blyind420 | yeh u remember that old mac game |
| 05:22.00 | Mojache | the reason I enjoy walls for the most part |
| 05:22.01 | Bemoliph | Then replace all my specific mentionings with "generic building" |
| 05:22.06 | Arthas-2 | introduction to GE |
| 05:22.11 | Bemoliph | The outcome will be the same, regardless of what you call them |
| 05:22.13 | blyind420 | with the cannons and u adjust ur angle and power and shoot then they get a turn to try and hit ur cannon? |
| 05:22.18 | Mojache | is it's too easy to get caught with your pants down |
| 05:22.24 | Mojache | and then never recover in starcraft |
| 05:22.29 | Mojache | I understand the whole "scout" thing |
| 05:22.32 | Alpha_vst | anyone watching my movie? :( |
| 05:22.38 | Mojache | but I'm not sure if I find that very fun |
| 05:22.47 | blyind420 | thanks arthas |
| 05:22.52 | Arthas-2 | np |
| 05:23.14 | Alpha_vst | that sounds very advanced blyind420 good luck |
| 05:23.19 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 05:23.44 | Alpha_vst | WATCH MY VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRR |
| 05:23.51 | Arthas-2 | Alpha_vst not now :p |
| 05:23.57 | Arthas-2 | im off for bed for real this time |
| 05:23.57 | Arthas-2 | also |
| 05:24.08 | Arthas-2 | wall rocks |
| 05:24.14 | Alpha_vst | it has sexy tank zones |
| 05:24.28 | Alpha_vst | to show stuff |
| 05:24.50 | Mojache | do you like economy based units? As in villagers/Peons? |
| 05:25.31 | Alpha_vst | you need to learn to play :P |
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| 05:25.50 | Mojache | Again, I'm not talking about Starcraft 2 |
| 05:26.01 | Mojache | I'm pooling a public while I think |
| 05:26.07 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 05:26.16 | Arthas-zzz | Mojache sure thats ok |
| 05:26.16 | Alpha_vst | watch my video while you think :D |
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| 05:26.23 | Arthas-zzz | but I really enjoyed ground control |
| 05:26.32 | Arthas-zzz | where all the focus were on the units / tactics |
| 05:26.35 | Arthas-zzz | no base at all |
| 05:26.50 | Arthas-zzz | zzz ! |
| 05:27.41 | Xenothral | Are points or regions better for doing triggers? |
| 05:28.08 | heysparky | alpha that's pretty slick |
| 05:28.12 | heysparky | I think I would get lost, tho |
| 05:29.11 | Bemoliph | Seems broken that the health crystals are on the highest level |
| 05:29.15 | Bemoliph | That is, where no lava goes |
| 05:29.46 | Alpha_vst | you would get lost? |
| 05:30.11 | heysparky | mmm... maybe not |
| 05:30.36 | heysparky | It wasn't clear to me immediately that when you idled the zone was created and the camera oriented behind you |
| 05:30.39 | Alpha_vst | Bemoliph yeah crystals are to give you a chance and they regen slowly |
| 05:30.46 | heysparky | I thought it was based on fixed zones |
| 05:30.52 | Bemoliph | Having healing is good |
| 05:30.58 | Bemoliph | Having healing with aboslutely no threat from lava is not |
| 05:31.18 | Bemoliph | What I would do is look into either having no healing where lava can't go |
| 05:31.24 | Bemoliph | Or have reduced healing at the top |
| 05:31.24 | Alpha_vst | yeah the ones on the high ground leave you with no mobility |
| 05:31.28 | Bemoliph | And greater healing as you go down |
| 05:31.44 | Bemoliph | That way you get better healing at the lower levels, but with risk from the lava |
| 05:31.45 | Alpha_vst | yeah i plan to have better healing crystals in the lava |
| 05:32.17 | Bemoliph | I'm also not sure I understand why the camera is the way it is |
| 05:32.18 | Alpha_vst | you also have to limit and move around or you run the healing out |
| 05:32.34 | heysparky | I would start the camera out behind the player with the only direction you can walk being forward |
| 05:33.21 | Alpha_vst | yeah sparky for sure |
| 05:33.23 | heysparky | so you can see the guy go idle, the zone spawn and the camera shift |
| 05:33.30 | heysparky | just tweaks |
| 05:33.32 | heysparky | really |
| 05:33.45 | heysparky | but I was very unsure of how that worked at the beginnign |
| 05:33.53 | heysparky | playing would be much better, too |
| 05:34.12 | heysparky | more obvious, instead of guessing what yo're doing |
| 05:34.18 | Alpha_vst | it works and i will add tips |
| 05:34.27 | Alpha_vst | and such |
| 05:34.33 | heysparky | cool |
| 05:34.45 | heysparky | that's got a lot of potential |
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| 05:34.55 | rrowland | Hmm |
| 05:34.57 | Alpha_vst | it keeps getting better |
| 05:35.07 | rrowland | Anyone here made a passive buff that you can level like an ability? |
| 05:35.20 | Alpha_vst | im working on it |
| 05:35.28 | Alpha_vst | sorta |
| 05:35.42 | rrowland | I made a "behavior" ability with 3 behaviors, like an ability with 3 effects |
| 05:35.46 | rrowland | Plugged it into hero learn etc |
| 05:35.50 | Alpha_vst | watch my video rrowland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI-343wHrI |
| 05:35.53 | rrowland | The first levl up works |
| 05:35.57 | rrowland | But the other 2 don't |
| 05:36.14 | Alpha_vst | are you adding the same amount each time? |
| 05:36.21 | rrowland | no increments |
| 05:36.27 | rrowland | Unless I fucked up but I don't think I did |
| 05:36.31 | rrowland | I'll check after I watch this |
| 05:37.46 | Motive | sixen: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/off-topic/1827-check-out-this-razer-giveaway/ |
| 05:37.48 | Motive | amagad spammer |
| 05:39.14 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 05:40.01 | rrowland | Looks cool |
| 05:40.04 | rrowland | What's the point of the map |
| 05:40.41 | Alpha_vst | to not die :D |
| 05:40.53 | rrowland | lol |
| 05:41.10 | rrowland | I assume it won't be you standing next to a crystal watching a marine auto attack for an hour :P |
| 05:41.19 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 05:42.03 | Alpha_vst | with more people and such it will be a lot better |
| 05:42.16 | rrowland | Looks like it could be fun |
| 05:42.26 | Alpha_vst | its getting there |
| 05:43.17 | rrowland | Yeah all of my behaviors are steps up |
| 05:43.18 | rrowland | 1/2/3 |
| 05:43.34 | Alpha_vst | hmm |
| 05:43.46 | rrowland | At first it didn't work at all |
| 05:43.54 | rrowland | Then I set the flag "toggled on" in the ability |
| 05:43.58 | rrowland | Now only the first level works |
| 05:45.10 | Alpha_vst | thanks for the feed back :D its helpful :D |
| 05:45.26 | rrowland | :) |
| 05:45.46 | Alpha_vst | not you all you said was awesome really :P |
| 05:45.59 | rrowland | lol |
| 05:46.20 | rrowland | Fine no more compliments from me |
| 05:46.36 | Alpha_vst | who liked my sexy dead marine? |
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| 05:47.39 | Alpha_vst | hey rrowland are you using any validators? |
| 05:48.32 | rrowland | no |
| 05:49.23 | rrowland | I'm using a requirement for the hero learn, but that's working correctly |
| 05:49.59 | Alpha_vst | what does hero learn do? |
| 05:50.34 | Lyrrad | Alpha you still pushing your Sex Cam? |
| 05:50.43 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI-343wHrI |
| 05:50.49 | Alpha_vst | watch it |
| 05:51.52 | Lyrrad | 2 new features? Frontal and rear positioning? |
| 05:52.06 | Alpha_vst | dont make fun |
| 05:52.56 | Lyrrad | Isn't the purpose of the map to make fun? |
| 05:53.23 | Alpha_vst | true |
| 05:53.28 | Alpha_vst | but not fun of it :P |
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| 05:54.42 | Lyrrad | This guy playing is a wussy and never moves away from the healing minerals |
| 05:54.57 | Jcup | hey guys |
| 05:55.09 | Lyrrad | Hello |
| 05:55.29 | Alpha_vst | you should of seen the game where i hit insane mode :( |
| 05:55.36 | Alpha_vst | hey jcup |
| 05:55.52 | Jcup | waddupz |
| 05:55.56 | Alpha_vst | watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI-343wHrI |
| 05:55.57 | Lyrrad | Alpha, the hole in the ground, is that trigger deformation or is it done in the data editor? |
| 05:56.04 | Alpha_vst | data editor |
| 05:56.10 | Lyrrad | nice |
| 05:56.25 | Lyrrad | Is this map going to be MP? |
| 05:56.31 | Alpha_vst | yeah 10 players |
| 05:56.38 | Alpha_vst | its meant to be played MP |
| 05:56.42 | Alpha_vst | but it scales |
| 05:57.16 | Jcup | watchinnnnggggggg :D did u see my new one Alpha? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZyhUnswu24 |
| 05:57.21 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 05:57.23 | Lyrrad | I should really get back to work on my map |
| 05:58.02 | Alpha_vst | on working on stats and upgrades :D |
| 05:59.09 | Alpha_vst | your are doing a good job Jcup :D |
| 05:59.37 | Lyrrad | The terrain in both of yours is pretty good |
| 05:59.55 | Lyrrad | I so totally suck at the terrain part |
| 06:00.05 | Alpha_vst | to bad i cant run in more than low settings |
| 06:00.32 | Jcup | thanks you too Alpha_vst :D |
| 06:00.32 | Lyrrad | really? you must have a pretty old computer |
| 06:00.46 | Alpha_vst | well i can |
| 06:00.49 | Jcup | Omg yeah Alpha if u changed ur emmissive on ur lighting |
| 06:00.55 | Jcup | The lava would look so amazing |
| 06:01.02 | Alpha_vst | yeah i know lol |
| 06:01.07 | Lyrrad | Mine is getting close to 4 years and I am playing SC at ultra |
| 06:01.27 | Alpha_vst | I can run oh higher things but my frame rate sucks :P |
| 06:01.36 | Alpha_vst | im running on a mac mini |
| 06:01.37 | rrowland | My god editor keeps crashing for random reasons |
| 06:01.51 | Jcup | My fps drops when i run through a poopton of lights and im recording ha |
| 06:02.09 | Alpha_vst | Jcup it ultra lights are sexyness |
| 06:02.43 | Jcup | I run high and my comp almost cries I need a better gfx card |
| 06:02.58 | Alpha_vst | i need a computer for gaming :P |
| 06:03.18 | Lyrrad | Jcup, how long did it take you to make just the terrain? |
| 06:03.21 | Alpha_vst | im thinking about this one sitting next to me that no one uses |
| 06:03.37 | Alpha_vst | sexy terrain takes hours |
| 06:04.02 | Jcup | Lyrrad uhh idk ha I just would randomly work on it each time i tested something if I saw something i didnt like id change it |
| 06:04.07 | Alpha_vst | iif you could see the detail of my texturing omg |
| 06:05.11 | Lyrrad | Any idea how many Doodads you can safely put onto a map without completely bogging down the system? |
| 06:05.20 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/meleezealot/. horrid melee zealot ex. ezbeats (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 06:05.24 | Skizot | 15000 |
| 06:05.39 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/obscura-bound/. Obscura Bound. JamesObscura (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 06:05.49 | Lyrrad | Thats a fair number |
| 06:06.14 | rrowland | Not only did I figure out the leveling + buff, I also figured out how to get rid of the ugly ass requirement text on normal abilities |
| 06:06.16 | rrowland | Hoo-hah |
| 06:06.25 | Alpha_vst | EVERYONE WHO MISSED IT!!!!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI-343wHrI |
| 06:06.28 | Alpha_vst | goodnight :D |
| 06:06.32 | rrowland | night |
| 06:06.39 | Alpha_vst | goodjob |
| 06:07.12 | Skizot | STILL DARK |
| 06:07.31 | Jcup | Lyrrad I honstly dont consider that I prolly should ha |
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| 06:07.49 | JamesObscura | What's the "allow multiple" parameter flag do? |
| 06:07.50 | Sixen | Thanks Motive ;) |
| 06:07.51 | Jcup | Skizot I made a different one too :P with more man music :3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZyhUnswu24 |
| 06:12.11 | JamesObscura | How do you pass in a dynamic parameter? Like... I want to pass in an array of regions, but of course I can't do that, so what's the alternative? |
| 06:12.20 | Skizot | I HATE YOUR FACE |
| 06:12.40 | Skizot | and you used the wrong muse song. |
| 06:12.44 | Skizot | i only like one of their songs. |
| 06:12.49 | Skizot | knights of cydonia. |
| 06:13.01 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI |
| 06:13.28 | Jcup | lol such hate D: |
| 06:14.33 | Jcup | its sooo cowboy :P |
| 06:14.50 | Bifuu | you want music?! |
| 06:14.51 | Bifuu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN5c_uHRKIk |
| 06:14.53 | Bifuu | hell yeah! |
| 06:14.56 | Jcup | If I make a cowboy game ill consider it :3 |
| 06:15.27 | Jcup | Good move Bifuu good move :P just yeah its too intense i just have to close it |
| 06:15.43 | Bifuu | oh you want cowboy music? |
| 06:16.17 | Bifuu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sghv7aS6gPc |
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| 06:16.29 | Jcup | :O Bootyland |
| 06:16.30 | Bifuu | go ahead and screram borderlands |
| 06:16.33 | Jcup | Borderlands* |
| 06:16.34 | Azu | 02:00 Shadowclaimer:#sc2mapster Azu |
| 06:16.35 | Jcup | haha |
| 06:16.57 | Jcup | I miss that game they need more thingies :D |
| 06:17.28 | Bifuu | meh |
| 06:17.33 | Jcup | TILL WE CLOSE OUR EYES FOR GOOD =.= |
| 06:17.35 | Skizot | BOOORDDDEEERRLLLAAANNNNNDDDSSSS |
| 06:17.45 | Jcup | Bootylands**** ^^ |
| 06:19.22 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/user/coheedandcambriatv?blend=1&ob=4#p/f/2/IpXI6cvRbrc |
| 06:20.25 | Bifuu | good ole Coheed |
| 06:20.32 | Skizot | ROCK BAAAAANNNNDDDD |
| 06:20.46 | Jcup | haha |
| 06:23.41 | Skizot | i had a small hatred-on for this song for a while after rock band came out |
| 06:23.51 | Skizot | EVERYONE ONLY wanted play THE FUCKING SONG |
| 06:25.19 | Skizot | anyone know how to change a mover on the fly? |
| 06:25.31 | Skizot | i wanna go from ground to air. |
| 06:25.35 | Skizot | and back again. |
| 06:26.14 | Bifuu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kphiCV7Dho |
| 06:26.54 | Jcup | can behaviors do it? I dont have the editor open |
| 06:27.11 | rrowland | So uh |
| 06:27.17 | rrowland | What's the fix to the "can't open map" bug |
| 06:27.34 | JamesObscura | Skizot, the pheonix ability does it. |
| 06:27.49 | Skizot | pheonix? |
| 06:27.59 | JamesObscura | err |
| 06:28.01 | Skizot | the lift? |
| 06:28.02 | Jcup | the anti grav? |
| 06:28.06 | JamesObscura | yeah |
| 06:28.16 | Skizot | but that also disables the unit. |
| 06:28.33 | Skizot | i need it for a jump. |
| 06:28.34 | JamesObscura | Just take away the disable |
| 06:28.45 | Skizot | and or platforms |
| 06:28.56 | Jcup | Just set the plane delta and height to what u want maybe |
| 06:30.09 | Skizot | well i don't want it to seight a height either. |
| 06:30.31 | Skizot | i just want it so when i jump or am on a platform ground units can't attack / block me. |
| 06:31.21 | Jcup | well when u set the plane delta to air I dont think you will collide with ground will u? |
| 06:31.32 | Skizot | you shouldn't |
| 06:31.55 | Skizot | but if i'm on a platform (done by changing heights) i don't want a zergling on the ground to be able to attack me. |
| 06:31.56 | rrowland | Anybody here fixed their "unable to open map" bug when trying to play on bnet? |
| 06:32.04 | rrowland | Is it a map or patcher issue? |
| 06:32.15 | Skizot | map |
| 06:32.20 | Skizot | did you do the p14 fix? |
| 06:32.21 | Jcup | Well just have a behavior that modifies ur height slowly and off expire effect give another behavior that sets ur height slowly down and on its expire set ground plane |
| 06:32.28 | rrowland | No what is it |
| 06:32.42 | Skizot | check the front page. |
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| 06:32.54 | Skizot | basically you have to set p14 to comptuer or none |
| 06:33.02 | rrowland | What, lame |
| 06:33.07 | rrowland | I used #14 |
| 06:33.11 | rrowland | I guess I don't right now |
| 06:33.12 | rrowland | lol |
| 06:33.22 | Jcup | Like chain behaviors with the initial giving plane air and the last giving plane ground and then just modify height inbetween |
| 06:33.50 | Jcup | but yeah idk about if u wanted multilevel platforms |
| 06:34.00 | rrowland | Er players 2-14 are all none already actually |
| 06:34.11 | rrowland | I think it might have just done that when I opened it |
| 06:36.13 | Reactorex | I've got a question about weapons if anyone can answer. |
| 06:38.26 | Lyrrad | Ask away |
| 06:38.45 | Azu | Xan gj vegas, said that it was 10:58 long |
| 06:38.51 | Azu | but it was 11:13.. |
| 06:39.43 | Reactorex | I'm looking for a way to dynamically apply extra damage to a unit. So far, I've heard it's related to using weapons. Am I able to create a weapon that I can apply to any unit I want without changing its attack type, range, or speed- only its damage? |
| 06:41.11 | Lyrrad | You could create a Buff Behavior to increase the damage |
| 06:42.03 | Lyrrad | Then apply the buff to whatever unit you wish to increase the damage for |
| 06:42.32 | Skizot | Mojache stil here? |
| 06:42.32 | Reactorex | From what the behaviors looked like, I thought it only set the amount of damage the unit does, not modifies it? |
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| 06:43.40 | Lyrrad | Nope, you can modify |
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| 06:45.02 | Reactorex | Okay, awesome. |
| 06:45.12 | Reactorex | Thanks for the info and help, Lyrrad. |
| 06:45.25 | Lyrrad | You will want to look in Modifications + |
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| 06:46.48 | Lyrrad | And I believe the section you are looking for will be "Damage Dealt (Unscaled)" |
| 06:48.43 | Lyrrad | That should let you set a fixed damage increase, not sure what the difference between Damage Dealt(scaled) and Damage Dealth Fraction is, but I would expect either one will let you increase or decrease damage by a % |
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| 06:50.36 | Reactorex | Fraction sounds like the percentage one to me. I'm clueless about scaled. Now if only my Windows will work with me and decide to boot up.. |
| 06:53.31 | Lyrrad | well I would have said that Fraction for for less then 100% and scaled was for more then 100%, except you can have fractions of greater then 1, and Scaleds between 0 and 1 |
| 06:54.44 | Reactorex | And you can have both at once. O.o |
| 06:55.40 | Lyrrad | It will let you set both, no idea what the effect would be |
| 06:59.21 | Clord | fractions are for percentages |
| 06:59.22 | Azu | Xan http://i42.tinypic.com/2lvenwl.jpg |
| 06:59.33 | Clord | for example I made ability what takes 10% of max life |
| 06:59.34 | Clord | ;) |
| 07:01.40 | Lyrrad | How do they differ from scale? |
| 07:03.17 | Clord | lol.. fractions work like this |
| 07:03.25 | Clord | 0.10 would mean it leeches 10% |
| 07:03.30 | heysparky | does anyone know what the spawning mutant larva actors are for? and the larva super egg? |
| 07:03.30 | Clord | -0.10 would be reverse |
| 07:04.15 | heysparky | they don't appear to be linked to anything |
| 07:04.31 | Clord | also weapon damage modifier with fraction setting can make with 1 to deal 100% extra damage or for example if you set it to -1 it would deal -100% damage aka zero |
| 07:04.58 | Lyrrad | I get that, but there is also Scaled which I would expect pretty much the same behavior out of |
| 07:05.13 | Clord | it looks like they left some unused entries and campaign stuff refrenses to some abilities |
| 07:05.17 | Clord | there is some unknown stuff |
| 07:05.44 | Clord | probably that actor does nothing yet |
| 07:05.52 | Reactorex | I think they meant to remove all of that stuff from our beta editor. |
| 07:05.57 | Reactorex | They probably forgot a few. xD |
| 07:06.57 | Skizot | FYI... Ignorance IS bliss. |
| 07:06.58 | Skizot | :D |
| 07:07.19 | Skizot | he got my bullets working better! |
| 07:07.31 | Lyrrad | I think it was in attachment points they left in attachments between heroes so we can guess the names of a bunch of main characters |
| 07:09.18 | Lyrrad | Raynor to Tosh, Raynor to Swann, Raynor to Hanson, Raynor to Horner |
| 07:10.33 | Reactorex | Sounds like the list of Raynor's main gang members that he's with in the campaign. |
| 07:10.37 | Reactorex | Fun. >:3 |
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| 07:11.55 | Lyrrad | and Adjunctor which sounds like a protoss buddy |
| 07:11.56 | heysparky | Hanson and Horner are known... Tosh and Swann are new to me |
| 07:12.11 | heysparky | I think the adjunctor might be the protoss tutorial guy |
| 07:12.13 | Lyrrad | and there is Tycus |
| 07:12.41 | devilesk | how do you get high cliffs? |
| 07:12.51 | devilesk | like terrain higher than 2 levels |
| 07:13.21 | Lyrrad | actually, there are several others that look like they would be character names |
| 07:13.52 | Lyrrad | Stetmann, Jessica Hall |
| 07:14.33 | Lyrrad | I don't think you can go more then 2 cliffs up and 1 down |
| 07:15.01 | Lyrrad | Blizzard is probably putting all these names in just to trick us and most of them aren't even in gamne |
| 07:15.35 | heysparky | Hanson and Horner are for sure |
| 07:16.03 | Lyrrad | There is a Bartender! |
| 07:16.14 | heysparky | The Hyperion has a lounge! |
| 07:16.29 | heysparky | 10-forward lol |
| 07:17.07 | Lyrrad | I got your Zerg right here *Cracks a beer and looses his head* |
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| 07:30.37 | Ignorance | night guys |
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| 07:38.59 | Galois-evariste | ANNOUNCEMENT: |
| 07:39.00 | Galois-evariste | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125636 |
| 07:40.17 | Skizot | oh god oh god oh god |
| 07:40.24 | Skizot | my bullets ROCK now. |
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| 07:40.53 | Skizot | did you make that Galois-evariste? |
| 07:41.05 | Paras1te | Hi |
| 07:41.10 | Skizot | hello |
| 07:41.58 | Lyrrad | hello |
| 07:42.16 | Galois-evariste | yes i did skizot |
| 07:42.20 | Galois-evariste | that's what i've been working on for the past 24+ hours |
| 07:42.28 | Galois-evariste | all by myself, but with help from you guys every now and then |
| 07:42.34 | Galois-evariste | in the form of answers to my questions |
| 07:45.48 | Skizot | well if i can make a suggestion... change the end building to have the "xil creature" model. |
| 07:45.54 | Skizot | looks close to the sc1 overminds. |
| 07:46.00 | Skizot | scale it up some though :) |
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| 07:46.16 | Galois-evariste | >_> the overminds weren't the life buildings in the original map |
| 07:46.23 | Galois-evariste | but i appreciate the input |
| 07:46.26 | Galois-evariste | i need to sleep |
| 07:47.03 | Lyrrad | Sleep is for the weak |
| 07:47.15 | Galois-evariste | i just pulled a 24+ work shift entirely dedicated to this map |
| 07:47.18 | Galois-evariste | don't tell me that crap |
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| 07:47.47 | Skizot | i wouldn't mind doing a test run with you Galois-evariste |
| 07:47.54 | Skizot | i LOVED the sc1 td. |
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| 07:51.31 | heysparky | nice Galois |
| 07:52.06 | heysparky | cool how you said we helped and called us fags too |
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| 07:52.12 | heysparky | o.O |
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| 07:54.16 | heysparky | okay... so I wrote a gui function, but -- um... how do I call it?! |
| 07:54.16 | Skizot | where did he call us fags? |
| 07:54.16 | heysparky | in the link |
| 07:54.16 | Galois-evariste | wc3 fags |
| 07:54.20 | Galois-evariste | because nobody got the flying drone thing |
| 07:54.25 | Galois-evariste | its all in good fun |
| 07:54.28 | Galois-evariste | we do that in TL |
| 07:54.54 | Galois-evariste | i need to stop distracting myself |
| 07:55.00 | heysparky | go to sleep you |
| 07:55.06 | heysparky | and sleep the sleep of the accomplished |
| 07:55.17 | Galois-evariste | my 2nd post in the thread is how i feel right now |
| 07:55.22 | Skizot | who's a wc3 fag? i know my flying drones. |
| 07:55.24 | Skizot | lol |
| 07:56.00 | Skizot | also, just a small terrain thing... but wouldn't the brazis alpha cliffs be better? |
| 07:56.08 | Skizot | just asking. |
| 07:56.19 | heysparky | thos are braxis alpha |
| 07:56.30 | heysparky | just not man-made |
| 07:56.32 | Skizot | well, the man made ones. |
| 07:56.37 | ShadowTiger | heysparky you should be able to find the function in the pulldown |
| 07:56.46 | heysparky | thanks tiger |
| 07:56.59 | Galois-evariste | i'll try to remember that in the morning |
| 07:57.06 | Clord | term man-made bit stings as some are protoss made ^^ |
| 07:57.08 | Galois-evariste | now if you'll excuse me, i think i should get off irc so i stop distracting myself with this |
| 07:57.22 | Skizot | if you WANT Galois-evariste... i have a wraith model you can use. |
| 07:57.30 | Skizot | okay lol. |
| 07:57.31 | Skizot | night. |
| 07:57.52 | Galois-evariste | i will call you on that if i remember |
| 07:57.56 | Galois-evariste | ggs |
| 07:58.04 | Skizot | good night |
| 07:58.12 | heysparky | 'man' as the abstract term |
| 07:58.51 | heysparky | Shadowtiger - not sure which pulldown you mean |
| 07:59.09 | ShadowTiger | well if its a "function" then you can search for it as a condition |
| 07:59.18 | heysparky | oooh... hmmm |
| 07:59.23 | ShadowTiger | if its an "action defintion" then you can search for it as an action |
| 07:59.37 | heysparky | can I change something from a function to an action def |
| 07:59.39 | heysparky | ? |
| 07:59.49 | heysparky | wait, I might figure that out myself |
| 08:00.17 | Clord | sparky... it is more like... there was not much reason to make expections with cliff names |
| 08:00.22 | heysparky | suhweet |
| 08:00.31 | Clord | because it is editor side of stuff lol |
| 08:01.11 | heysparky | oh, well, in the editor they're all man made, if oyu want to quibble |
| 08:01.22 | heysparky | what with the devs being humans and all |
| 08:01.29 | ShadowTiger | well theres the manmade cliffs and the natural cliffs irght? |
| 08:01.30 | heysparky | :P |
| 08:01.43 | heysparky | though by my def, tehy're all manmade :D |
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| 08:02.25 | Clord | yeah and protoss btw has not that many planets to make cliffs |
| 08:02.26 | Clord | lol |
| 08:03.00 | Skizot | hmmmmmmm.... |
| 08:03.03 | Clord | as far I can guess they are pretty much mothership cities now |
| 08:07.32 | heysparky | yeah! my first function (action definition) works! |
| 08:07.33 | heysparky | this rules |
| 08:07.56 | Paras1te | lol |
| 08:08.15 | heysparky | loving the small victories |
| 08:08.39 | Clord | once planet cracker is again in editor I will use it |
| 08:09.42 | Clord | it is plain awesome for super unit |
| 08:09.50 | Clord | can even make great boss ability |
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| 08:10.45 | Skizot | well shit. |
| 08:10.52 | Skizot | other than ONE issue... |
| 08:10.58 | Skizot | my map is multiplayer :O |
| 08:11.32 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/multithreading-and-ai/ by Thalassicus |
| 08:11.35 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/multithreading-and-ai/ by Thalassicus |
| 08:11.40 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/ by Thalassicus |
| 08:11.44 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/ by Thalassicus |
| 08:11.49 | Paras1te | stfu repo :O |
| 08:13.09 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/main-page/ by Thalassicus |
| 08:15.52 | heysparky | woof, tired, gnight folks |
| 08:15.58 | ShadowTiger | k |
| 08:16.09 | heysparky | thanks for the helps |
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| 08:16.29 | ShadowTiger | does anybody know how to make an ability gain charges over time? |
| 08:18.51 | Clord | sure... sue ability |
| 08:19.12 | Clord | lol..... well.. I know how to add ammunition based charges |
| 08:19.16 | Clord | like nukes |
| 08:19.25 | ShadowTiger | well im trying to do mercenaries like wc3 |
| 08:20.00 | Clord | I made mercenary post so that it gains energy over time |
| 08:20.07 | Clord | then it is spent with minerals |
| 08:20.24 | ShadowTiger | i see |
| 08:20.39 | Clord | for example.... if marine would take 100 minerals and 1 energy to train in 1 second |
| 08:21.10 | ShadowTiger | well |
| 08:21.32 | Clord | it works even better than WCIII mercenary system where how many can get is directly tied to unit type |
| 08:22.04 | ShadowTiger | I think I will just use triggers |
| 08:22.43 | ShadowTiger | its interesting that they only included features that were directly used by the game |
| 08:22.56 | ShadowTiger | instead of adding in features that make sense together |
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| 08:29.38 | Clord | I'm pretty sure classic style mercenary functionality is still possible too |
| 08:31.45 | Clord | yeah every count functionality is there expect |
| 08:31.50 | Clord | recharge of charges |
| 08:31.51 | Clord | lol >_> |
| 08:32.18 | Clord | anyways good that it can be "emulated" via trigger |
| 08:53.10 | Skizot | holy crap. |
| 08:53.15 | Skizot | multiplayer SUCKS |
| 08:53.34 | rrowland | You mean the incredible latency over 9000? |
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| 08:55.28 | Clord | I have wondered this... starcraft and starcraft II are such big thing in ladder play for koreans |
| 08:55.40 | Clord | yet they don't have whined from latency what actually hinders them greatly |
| 08:56.22 | pierro | hello all |
| 08:57.28 | Clord | hi |
| 08:59.31 | Clord | I found unit kill ranks |
| 08:59.33 | Clord | lol |
| 08:59.42 | Clord | Game UI Data |
| 09:04.30 | Paras1te | OAH, minimum damage can be changed |
| 09:05.23 | Clord | lol editor also has already some of challenge data |
| 09:06.06 | Paras1te | Pwning stuff |
| 09:06.43 | Clord | I found tips |
| 09:06.46 | Clord | there is 11 tips |
| 09:06.51 | ShadowTiger | i couldnt figure out how to change charges with triggers -_- |
| 09:06.54 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/terran-last-stand-cinematic-cont/. Terran Last Stand (Cinematic Contest). WeFailMaps (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 09:06.56 | Paras1te | Yup |
| 09:07.01 | Paras1te | Nearly everything can be edited |
| 09:07.06 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/terran-last-stand-cinematic-cont/. Terran Last Stand (Cinematic Contest). WeFailMaps (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 09:07.18 | FrozenFirebat | double approval |
| 09:07.25 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/rileys-micro-olympics/. Riley's Micro Olympics. RileyStarcraft (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 09:07.32 | ShadowTiger | multi-proval! |
| 09:07.46 | FrozenFirebat | C-C-C-C-C-C-combo breaker! |
| 09:08.18 | Clord | lol |
| 09:08.40 | FrozenFirebat | ohh can't believe I let this one slip by: <rrowland> You mean the incredible latency over 9000? |
| 09:08.46 | FrozenFirebat | OVER 9000!!! |
| 09:09.20 | rrowland | lol |
| 09:10.25 | Clord | have not yet tried conversation stuff but oh well |
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| 09:11.29 | FrozenFirebat | so... since you can put full videos into Maps, how long do you think it will be, before people start releasing Porn Maps? |
| 09:11.39 | rrowland | You can? |
| 09:11.53 | vjeux | yes you can |
| 09:11.54 | FrozenFirebat | yep... for starters, you can attach it to the "Tutorial" section of the help menu |
| 09:12.15 | rrowland | So they won't let us make more than 2mb of triggers |
| 09:12.23 | rrowland | But they'll let us attach a 100mb porno? |
| 09:12.36 | vjeux | pretty much yeah :p |
| 09:12.39 | FrozenFirebat | but I've seen footage from the campaign where they put a transparent cinimatic over top of the screen while your playing |
| 09:13.01 | rrowland | They should also let us run executables while they're at it |
| 09:13.03 | FrozenFirebat | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahZZZmZL8ao&NR=1 |
| 09:13.07 | Clord | that place between "missions" is also map |
| 09:13.10 | Clord | as far I know |
| 09:13.11 | Clord | lol |
| 09:13.14 | FrozenFirebat | somebody put a Music Video in their map already |
| 09:13.21 | rrowland | WHY |
| 09:13.27 | FrozenFirebat | because they can |
| 09:13.30 | Skizot | fuuuucccckkkkk |
| 09:13.31 | rrowland | You have to DL to map off the internet |
| 09:13.35 | rrowland | Then open it in sc2 |
| 09:13.36 | rrowland | lol |
| 09:13.41 | rrowland | You can just watch that shit on youtube |
| 09:13.47 | FrozenFirebat | XD |
| 09:13.52 | FrozenFirebat | that's exactly what somebody posted |
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| 09:14.05 | FrozenFirebat | So. You loaded a video to SC2 then played it and made? a video of it which you then loaded to Youtube? |
| 09:14.05 | FrozenFirebat | What does this crap do to your brain anyway? |
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| 09:14.21 | rrowland | lol |
| 09:14.35 | ShadowTiger | what video formats can we use in SC2 |
| 09:14.44 | ShadowTiger | I know that most is probably ogv |
| 09:15.25 | Clord | it looks like two things are off limits... conversation and planets |
| 09:15.27 | Clord | in triggers |
| 09:15.33 | Clord | then in data menu stuff we can't use is |
| 09:15.35 | Clord | achievements etc |
| 09:15.37 | Clord | rewards |
| 09:15.50 | FrozenFirebat | now... here's an idea, which seems likely possible from what i've seen in dialog and triggers... You might be able to, instead of image in a dialog, put a movie... make it small... and play on the map... instant custom animation XD |
| 09:16.17 | FrozenFirebat | Edit boxes in dialogs are also not working in the data editor as well, Clord. |
| 09:16.45 | FrozenFirebat | I had to write a function that allows you to Write to a dialog box dynamically with key presses. |
| 09:16.54 | Clord | XD |
| 09:17.14 | rrowland | Is it a bnet game? |
| 09:17.18 | Clord | this not functioning stuff is probably because not retail code |
| 09:17.21 | rrowland | I think crap like that lags you out |
| 09:17.44 | ShadowTiger | what are you going to do with the edit box... make pictionary? |
| 09:18.05 | FrozenFirebat | The Key-presses does increase traffic a lot, but if you only turn on the trigger when needed, and turn it back off afterwards, the lag goes away |
| 09:18.25 | Clord | would be useful in beginning of map to define name |
| 09:18.26 | Clord | lol |
| 09:18.36 | Clord | yeah they warn in trigger itself it would lag |
| 09:18.40 | FrozenFirebat | Shadow, it's for a Save Database... so you can name your different saves |
| 09:18.55 | Skizot | this is a pain in the ass. |
| 09:19.02 | Skizot | multiplayer.. fuck. |
| 09:19.06 | ShadowTiger | why does key presses increase traffic? |
| 09:19.15 | FrozenFirebat | ~seen +Skizot |
| 09:19.48 | purl | i haven't seen '+skizot', FrozenFirebat |
| 09:19.48 | ShadowTiger | because they are used often or because it constantly scnas? |
| 09:19.48 | ShadowTiger | *scans |
| 09:19.48 | Clord | because blizzard tells so in trigger and because it does |
| 09:19.48 | Clord | XD |
| 09:19.48 | FrozenFirebat | lol... where is purl... I wanted him to repeat what skizot said |
| 09:19.48 | ShadowTiger | so if you bring up a keyboard using dialog buttons then it should be fine? |
| 09:19.48 | rrowland | Because every time a player presses any key |
| 09:19.55 | rrowland | It sends a packet over the network to check if it's the trigger key |
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| 09:20.14 | FrozenFirebat | yep... which is why I keep the triggers turned off by default |
| 09:20.24 | FrozenFirebat | if they are off, they won't check for events, thus not sending network info |
| 09:20.53 | Clord | oh well.. people can have fun with latency while playing my survival map |
| 09:20.57 | Clord | ^^^ |
| 09:21.00 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:21.13 | ShadowTiger | you can combine your text input with bullet time : P |
| 09:21.16 | rrowland | my map with no wasd, no key checking, no mouse checking |
| 09:21.17 | FrozenFirebat | It's also why I refuse to work on an Action Map until they fix lag issues |
| 09:21.18 | Bemoliph | I still need to try spamming the keyboard the next time I get in someone's test map using keys |
| 09:21.23 | rrowland | Still gets like 300ms |
| 09:21.28 | rrowland | in multiplayer with only 2 people |
| 09:21.32 | rrowland | and we're both an hour from irvine |
| 09:21.53 | ShadowTiger | the servers probably arent in irvine : P |
| 09:21.57 | Bemoliph | Would be funny to see how bad it gets |
| 09:21.58 | Clord | Bemoliph... people will play those maps even under such lag... because there is not map who responds better than that |
| 09:21.59 | Clord | XD |
| 09:22.28 | Clord | I made turn rate and movement speed so that guy is easier to deal under latency |
| 09:22.32 | ShadowTiger | i dont think 300 ms is that bad for most maps |
| 09:22.44 | Clord | currently it is 125ms |
| 09:23.36 | rrowland | Yeah they say 125ms is the minimum |
| 09:23.42 | rrowland | I get 125ms in ladder |
| 09:23.44 | rrowland | But not custom |
| 09:23.46 | rrowland | Custom skyrockets |
| 09:24.04 | Bemoliph | Maybe spammy timers? |
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| 09:25.15 | rrowland | I don't think so |
| 09:26.42 | Clord | well answer is still pretty clear |
| 09:26.48 | Clord | they don't support custom games yet |
| 09:26.59 | Clord | so they probably didn't change ms for that yet |
| 09:27.17 | Bemoliph | I see no reason why it would be any different |
| 09:27.56 | Bemoliph | If you can go play a Custom Game that is just a normal match and have the latency be fine, there shouldn't be any difference between that and switching out the map |
| 09:28.21 | Bemoliph | At least not in terms of artificial ping limits |
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| 09:30.31 | Clord | other reason is simple |
| 09:30.40 | Clord | custom games are hosted directly via someone's computer |
| 09:32.01 | Bemoliph | If SC2 is like SC1, there is no "official hosting" in that sense |
| 09:32.11 | Bemoliph | But I have no idea how SC2 works in that area, so I can't say at all |
| 09:36.58 | Clord | well one thing is at least clear... Warcraft III... ladder matches are automatically monitored by warden |
| 09:37.00 | Clord | from possible hacks |
| 09:37.10 | Clord | SCII has something simillar lol |
| 09:37.23 | Grum | hehe what did you do? ;) |
| 09:37.48 | Bemoliph | Warden isn't a remote process, as far as I know |
| 09:38.07 | Clord | and in warcraft III ladder matches are sponsored so they are not hosted by either of match |
| 09:38.17 | Grum | Bemoliph: its a local process reporting to blizz |
| 09:38.22 | Bemoliph | I know |
| 09:38.29 | Bemoliph | I didn't say it doesn't make external connections |
| 09:38.41 | Bemoliph | Just that it's not something crazy like some server scanning you from the outside |
| 09:38.46 | Clord | it is part of patches what they don't put to patch notes |
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| 09:39.02 | Grum | actually, wow's warden you would just get send while logging in |
| 09:39.11 | Bemoliph | Yeah, it's a bit more complicated |
| 09:39.14 | Grum | and the code send would then execute locally |
| 09:39.22 | Bemoliph | But once it's actually in action, it's run on your computer, which is what matters and is what I mean |
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| 09:39.59 | Clord | warden was intially hated because it was secret that it even exist |
| 09:40.00 | Grum | yeah, but its run (iirc) in the apps process space, so not some sort of priviledge thing |
| 09:40.29 | Bemoliph | Warden was (read: is) hated because it wasn't particularly clear what its limits were |
| 09:40.59 | Clord | wouldn't it be easier to correct word |
| 09:41.00 | Clord | ;) |
| 09:42.09 | Clord | there is supply possibilites what typical SCII gamer is not even aware of |
| 09:42.17 | Clord | for example unit can be made to use 1.5 supply |
| 09:42.42 | Bemoliph | Does it display properly in the client? |
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| 09:43.17 | Clord | each zergling takes -0.5 supply |
| 09:43.24 | Clord | they together take one |
| 09:43.30 | Clord | but for player it seems |
| 09:43.36 | Clord | both zergs die and supply goes directly to zero |
| 09:44.08 | Bemoliph | So 1 Zergling displays as 0 or 1 supply? |
| 09:44.12 | rrowland | 1 |
| 09:44.44 | Bemoliph | As should be expected, I suppose |
| 09:44.50 | Clord | their supply display is not accurate.... it ignores decimals |
| 09:45.02 | Clord | if you are wondering that ^^ |
| 09:45.13 | rrowland | I think it rounds up |
| 09:45.31 | Grum | it has to |
| 09:45.52 | Clord | yeah |
| 09:45.55 | Grum | else you are at 199.5/200 supply and it would display as 199/200 and you couldnt create another 1 supply unit |
| 09:46.00 | rrowland | As far as SC2 is concerned the only non-integer supply unit is the zergling anyway |
| 09:46.29 | Bemoliph | Yeah, and you also can't even make just one zergling |
| 09:46.43 | Clord | it allows to do for example 10 units each take 0.1 supply.... to take only one supply eventually =) |
| 09:46.43 | Bemoliph | You would always have to increment supply by at least 1.0 |
| 09:47.24 | Grum | Bemoliph: humz i didnt even know that :D |
| 09:47.34 | Grum | zerglings always come in packs of 2? O.o |
| 09:47.42 | Bemoliph | Yes, one egg = two zerglings |
| 09:47.47 | Bemoliph | Just as it was in SC1 |
| 09:47.55 | Clord | there is even that research upgrade in editor what is not used |
| 09:47.58 | Grum | never played that (or zerg :D) |
| 09:48.02 | Clord | it makes four zerglings to spawn per eggs |
| 09:48.04 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:48.09 | Clord | but to take 50% longer |
| 09:48.14 | Bemoliph | o.O |
| 09:48.21 | Grum | that wouldnt be good hehe |
| 09:48.33 | Clord | it is in data editor and ready for use |
| 09:48.34 | Grum | i already think zerg can mass too many units too quickly |
| 09:49.04 | Clord | they just removed button from structure so melee gamers can't research it |
| 09:49.10 | Clord | lol |
| 09:49.11 | Grum | happy they nerfed roaches to 2 supply :D |
| 09:49.35 | rrowland | lol I'll take that upgrade please |
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| 09:51.23 | Clord | there is some obvious abilities what are quite likely in campaign side as they give them us too |
| 09:51.27 | Clord | planetary cracker |
| 09:51.31 | Clord | and few others |
| 09:51.32 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:51.52 | Skizot | shit shit shit shit shit |
| 09:52.45 | Clord | blizzard's unit scrapping from melee left some holes in lists |
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| 09:55.54 | rrowland | You think my disabled debugging triggers that detect my keystrokes might for some reason be setting whichever flag makes bnet ask for traffic from every keypress despite being disabled? |
| 09:56.02 | madsquare | good morning |
| 09:56.07 | rrowland | hello |
| 09:57.00 | Clord | isn't that enough debug to host map and test that buttons work? XD |
| 09:57.00 | madsquare | i got a rather dumb question.. |
| 09:57.19 | Clord | and I will prepare rather dumb answer for dumb questions |
| 09:57.21 | Clord | so ask away |
| 09:57.25 | madsquare | i looked around ingame and online - just where can i download / activate the editor? |
| 09:57.27 | pierro | Can i put actor and unit from a map to an other ? |
| 09:57.35 | pierro | or do i have to recreate them |
| 09:57.42 | rrowland | madsquare |
| 09:57.46 | Clord | you need to have PC |
| 09:57.48 | rrowland | call 1-800-galaxyedit |
| 09:57.48 | Clord | to use editor |
| 09:57.54 | madsquare | i have |
| 09:58.00 | rrowland | What did they say? |
| 09:58.03 | rrowland | Did they send you here? |
| 09:58.18 | rrowland | Damn it I told those assholes we're not their tech support |
| 09:58.32 | Clord | \StarCraft II Beta\StarCraft II Editor.exe |
| 09:58.33 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:58.41 | madsquare | mhhh |
| 09:59.03 | Clord | welcome to world of directories/folders |
| 09:59.05 | rrowland | Clord my triggers are like |
| 09:59.07 | madsquare | i should have used a pseudonym for this question |
| 09:59.17 | rrowland | When player 1 presses X, deal 5k damage to his unit so it dies instantly |
| 09:59.18 | madsquare | :P |
| 09:59.19 | TheBaron87 | man you guys need to stop answering questions like that. I don't know what you expect them to make if they can't even navigate windows :\ |
| 09:59.22 | rrowland | So I can debug stuff |
| 09:59.42 | rrowland | TheBaron87, I gave him a phone number to call |
| 09:59.47 | madsquare | its not like that |
| 09:59.53 | rrowland | Leave me out of this "You guys" imo |
| 09:59.53 | Clord | Baron... I don't expect them to do anyhting publishing worthy |
| 10:00.04 | madsquare | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:00.08 | Clord | but they can still be helped somewhat |
| 10:00.10 | rrowland | And FYI it was a fake phone number |
| 10:00.14 | rrowland | I made it up |
| 10:00.20 | rrowland | There really is no 1-800-galaxyedit |
| 10:00.20 | Clord | obviously |
| 10:00.29 | rrowland | Psh I had thebaron fooled |
| 10:00.33 | rrowland | Apparently |
| 10:00.59 | TheBaron87 | Yes, yes, I'm aware of both your points. People just wouldn't ask dumb questions if you didn't answer them D: At least he admits it's dumb though, so that's ok I guess lol |
| 10:01.01 | madsquare | many people are askign questions like this right? i see. |
| 10:01.01 | rrowland | Madsquare doesn't know how to navigate windows but it didn't fool him |
| 10:01.09 | madsquare | dude |
| 10:01.09 | TheBaron87 | MANY |
| 10:01.11 | TheBaron87 | oh god |
| 10:01.17 | TheBaron87 | It's depressing |
| 10:01.18 | Clord | it is true that even thought galaxy editor has rather low learning curve to do good maps... people still give up because they got to learn outside school |
| 10:01.29 | rrowland | Psh |
| 10:01.40 | rrowland | Guess how much schooling I've had in the area of programming |
| 10:01.41 | madsquare | i just didnt look in there |
| 10:01.42 | TheBaron87 | lol, low learning curve? Guess I just haven't spent enough time yet |
| 10:02.03 | madsquare | whats wrong with this channel? thats not something you would call mapping >community< |
| 10:02.06 | Clord | low learning curve to do GOOD maps |
| 10:02.11 | Clord | aka maps people would at least enjoy |
| 10:02.11 | rrowland | I was born in a prairie and raised by wolves |
| 10:02.20 | TheBaron87 | I'm a CS major, and I thought I was pretty good with SC and WC3 editors, but this one is kicking my ass. Granted I'm not very far in my major but whatever. I make maps all the time, this editor is nuts T_T |
| 10:02.28 | rrowland | All we had was a 386 |
| 10:02.54 | Clord | whatever world schools you hardly helps you in use of galaxy editor unless it is mathematics or something |
| 10:02.55 | Clord | lol |
| 10:03.15 | Clord | also you need talent |
| 10:03.20 | rrowland | I tought myself to program by creating structs and pointers out of twigs and berries while my parents stalked wild deer and foxes to eat |
| 10:03.20 | Clord | what can't be teached ^^ |
| 10:03.21 | TheBaron87 | whatever world schools you...? |
| 10:03.28 | madsquare | i appreciate the sarcastic style of yours - but theres nothign wrong with asking such a thing. |
| 10:03.35 | Clord | in any country even if you go to best school in the world ;) |
| 10:03.38 | madsquare | thank you anway |
| 10:03.46 | rrowland | Dude |
| 10:03.52 | rrowland | Clord gave you a direct answer |
| 10:03.56 | rrowland | And you still can't find the program |
| 10:03.59 | madsquare | just be aware |
| 10:04.04 | rrowland | That's a hint |
| 10:04.07 | TheBaron87 | He's talking to me, and there is unless it's your first day on windows or something. |
| 10:04.07 | madsquare | people use such irc channel mostly for help |
| 10:04.17 | TheBaron87 | with the editor |
| 10:04.20 | TheBaron87 | not with basic windows functions |
| 10:04.33 | pierro | hmm is there a way to get a unit created in one map and use it in other map without having to make it from scrap ? |
| 10:04.38 | rrowland | Baron, check the title |
| 10:04.40 | TheBaron87 | but whatever, I don't speak for mapster, it's just my peeve |
| 10:04.47 | rrowland | We're in #windowssupportforum |
| 10:04.48 | madsquare | you insist i dont know how to use windows just because i didnt have the idea to look there? |
| 10:05.10 | rrowland | Topic of the day: How do I find a file on my hard drive if I know its name and location? |
| 10:05.13 | TheBaron87 | no |
| 10:05.24 | Skizot | well SHIT. |
| 10:05.26 | TheBaron87 | I insist you don't know how to use windows because you didn't right click your SC2 icon and open file location |
| 10:05.31 | TheBaron87 | which should be the FIRST place you look |
| 10:05.32 | madsquare | thats exactly what youre up to |
| 10:05.45 | Clord | so true Baron |
| 10:05.47 | rrowland | Sup skiz |
| 10:05.50 | Clord | as espically if he maps for games |
| 10:05.52 | madsquare | i assumed its a seprate download or something launched ingame |
| 10:05.55 | TheBaron87 | right click SC2 beta, open file location, onlyoneotherexe.jpg |
| 10:05.56 | Skizot | making a map multiplayer :( |
| 10:06.05 | Skizot | and pick all players is setting stuff WRONG. |
| 10:06.08 | madsquare | because i didnt see this file when i first checked the directory |
| 10:06.15 | TheBaron87 | hm |
| 10:06.22 | rrowland | What are you using skiz |
| 10:06.27 | rrowland | Picked Player or your set variable? |
| 10:06.31 | TheBaron87 | then you're just not observant |
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| 10:06.41 | Clord | as long you use PC and have real beta key to update game... editor is there |
| 10:06.59 | TheBaron87 | oh yeah |
| 10:07.01 | TheBaron87 | search bar |
| 10:07.04 | TheBaron87 | "starcraft editor" |
| 10:07.06 | Skizot | picked player to set variables. |
| 10:07.08 | madsquare | thats no reason to be unfriendly like this when your hanging out in a channel where people are constantly askign questions |
| 10:07.10 | TheBaron87 | lol starcraft II editor.exe |
| 10:07.12 | Skizot | but they just ARE NOT lining up. |
| 10:07.19 | madsquare | did you miss something? |
| 10:07.23 | rrowland | picked player returns the index in which they're found, so 0 1 2 etc and the variable you set will return the player's actual player number |
| 10:07.41 | Skizot | for some reason half the time they are 1 for player 1 and the rest they are 0 |
| 10:07.43 | Skizot | so WTF. |
| 10:07.59 | rrowland | Cause you're using picked player |
| 10:07.59 | Clord | I'm losing track of this discussion lol |
| 10:08.02 | rrowland | It's not reliable |
| 10:08.16 | madsquare | thank you clord |
| 10:08.21 | rrowland | Just use the variable it sets |
| 10:08.30 | rrowland | It's a straight up reference to the player's ID |
| 10:08.43 | rrowland | Never changes |
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| 10:09.11 | Clord | so anybody know if it is possible to split atom with galaxy editor? XD |
| 10:09.20 | rrowland | It probably is not |
| 10:09.37 | rrowland | But hey you can throw porn videos in there so |
| 10:09.38 | rrowland | Who knows |
| 10:09.40 | rrowland | Maybe |
| 10:09.52 | Clord | I think it causes something else to split |
| 10:09.54 | Clord | ;) |
| 10:10.01 | Clord | yuck |
| 10:10.02 | TheBaron87 | Well anyway, I didn't come to argue. The editor is kicking my ass and I was hoping somebody could give me a few pointers in making a custom unit system. As in, I want to make a unit that doesn't adhere to normal "unit" rules lol. Specifically multiple body parts and items for weapons. And has anybody had success making real projectiles with margins of error? |
| 10:10.30 | Skizot | hahahahahahahah oh god TheBaron87 thank you. |
| 10:10.34 | rrowland | Are you talking about basically 100% in the data editor? |
| 10:10.36 | Skizot | i needed a laugh. |
| 10:10.40 | TheBaron87 | :) |
| 10:10.51 | TheBaron87 | I don't think it's possible 100% in data |
| 10:10.59 | rrowland | I don't think it's possible at all |
| 10:11.04 | TheBaron87 | hmmm |
| 10:11.10 | TheBaron87 | well reaper madness had headshots |
| 10:11.20 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 10:11.22 | TheBaron87 | that's sort of like having different body parts react differently, right? |
| 10:11.30 | rrowland | Not really, the model acted the same |
| 10:11.40 | rrowland | I just drew hitboxes around body parts |
| 10:12.03 | rrowland | Plus, any game that has WASD and mouselook |
| 10:12.05 | TheBaron87 | oh, you made that? heh, sorry I haven't spent much time on mapster, semester is still two more weeks |
| 10:12.11 | rrowland | Is going to lag your balls off |
| 10:12.20 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 10:12.21 | TheBaron87 | well I'm not going to use wasd and mouselook |
| 10:12.25 | Clord | reminds me... in old games hit boxes was quite bad but then developers realized that you can add more than just box shapes |
| 10:12.34 | rrowland | What is your goal? |
| 10:12.49 | TheBaron87 | going to make RTS-style, but I wanted large units to have seperate HP for arms and legs and such. |
| 10:13.07 | rrowland | You could probably do that |
| 10:13.12 | rrowland | It would be a headache |
| 10:13.25 | TheBaron87 | Well I'll put it simple. Have you played either Mech Commander? |
| 10:13.30 | rrowland | Nope |
| 10:13.37 | TheBaron87 | Ok, any MechWarrior then? |
| 10:13.49 | rrowland | Nope |
| 10:13.52 | TheBaron87 | Hm |
| 10:13.53 | TheBaron87 | Well ok |
| 10:13.55 | ShadowTiger | mechwarrior is cool |
| 10:13.59 | rrowland | Transformers shit is gay |
| 10:14.02 | rrowland | Just sayin |
| 10:14.03 | ShadowTiger | i wanted to make a map kind of like that |
| 10:14.06 | rrowland | :) |
| 10:14.07 | TheBaron87 | To put it simple: you blow off an arm, their weapons in that arm go away |
| 10:14.17 | TheBaron87 | You cripple a leg, their speed drops |
| 10:14.18 | TheBaron87 | etc |
| 10:14.24 | rrowland | Makes sense |
| 10:14.29 | TheBaron87 | You kill the body, they blow up |
| 10:14.37 | Clord | you could make something like that Sephiroth boss in crisis code... summon four orbs what are nearby and they enable abilities ;) |
| 10:14.42 | TheBaron87 | The other half is customizable weapons |
| 10:14.46 | TheBaron87 | so each part has a weight limit |
| 10:14.49 | Clord | crisis core.... |
| 10:14.55 | TheBaron87 | and you load up weapons you buy to make your own loadouts |
| 10:14.58 | rrowland | That's possible, but for all the work it'll take you'd might as well write it in an FPS engine to begin with |
| 10:15.14 | TheBaron87 | Well I didn't want FPS, I wanted RTS style lol |
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| 10:15.31 | Clord | if you want intersting boss battles add some minion spawns |
| 10:15.32 | rrowland | You'd have to make your own models |
| 10:15.49 | Clord | and make boss run away |
| 10:16.09 | TheBaron87 | Nah I was thinking I could use the Terran mechs, maybe chop them up into pieces and get a good modeler to help out and make "damaged" parts |
| 10:16.10 | rrowland | I dunno, that project is way too big for me to wrap my head around |
| 10:16.13 | TheBaron87 | But that's all long term |
| 10:16.23 | TheBaron87 | Well this is all long-term, I'm doing one thing at a time |
| 10:16.28 | TheBaron87 | Right now I just want to get a working mech |
| 10:16.45 | rrowland | Play around with the editor |
| 10:16.52 | rrowland | If you can't figure it out then it's probably not possible |
| 10:17.15 | TheBaron87 | Yeah I guess so. This editor is just so much more complicated than WC3's |
| 10:17.23 | rrowland | More options though |
| 10:17.23 | TheBaron87 | Was hoping somebody had some insight |
| 10:17.27 | TheBaron87 | but whatever, I'll work on it |
| 10:17.44 | rrowland | Everyone else is still learning it too |
| 10:17.46 | rrowland | :) |
| 10:17.55 | Clord | you could make buttons... keys what switch what part is targeted....... and then just in unit custom data there is stuff for various things |
| 10:17.56 | TheBaron87 | At the very least, you guys know how to make equipping an item add a weapon to the unit? I could start from there |
| 10:18.25 | rrowland | If that's possible, I don't know how |
| 10:18.42 | TheBaron87 | Well it's easy to tell the unit what part to attack |
| 10:18.57 | TheBaron87 | The problem is tracking multiple HP levels on the target mech |
| 10:19.15 | Clord | players would notice that if units stop moving and turning.. it is clear sign for example that legs are 100% broken part |
| 10:19.35 | TheBaron87 | The other issue is, I was hoping to do real projectiles that are actually aimed and collide, but that's really getting into advanced stuff lol |
| 10:19.58 | Clord | lol... my way really saves hours |
| 10:20.02 | Clord | and people can still have fun with it |
| 10:20.07 | TheBaron87 | I think I'll probably go "if aiming for body, 70% chance to hit center torso, 10% to hit left torso, 10% to hit right, etc. etc. |
| 10:20.11 | rrowland | That's not too hard |
| 10:20.17 | rrowland | The projectiles |
| 10:20.36 | Clord | unit takes non fatal damage... what to do? custom value of attacking unit is 1... so hit head |
| 10:20.38 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:20.45 | TheBaron87 | can you make the projectiles register different parts of a model? actually... I could make invisible custom models right? |
| 10:20.45 | Clord | what to do once head is hitted... blaa blaa blaa |
| 10:20.48 | rrowland | Do you know vectors, and do you know how to make a traceline? |
| 10:21.04 | TheBaron87 | I know vectors somewhat |
| 10:21.09 | rrowland | And yes, like you saw I made seperate hitboxes for body and head in reaper madness |
| 10:21.20 | rrowland | I can add as many as I want |
| 10:21.22 | TheBaron87 | Hmmm |
| 10:21.40 | TheBaron87 | man, I'm going to need to make my units pretty big... lol |
| 10:21.49 | TheBaron87 | or use less parts than mechwarrior does |
| 10:21.54 | Clord | thor original size is about good mech size ^^ |
| 10:22.02 | rrowland | Pre-patch |
| 10:22.02 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:22.04 | Clord | I mean thor vanilla |
| 10:22.06 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:22.07 | TheBaron87 | yeah |
| 10:22.07 | Clord | yeah |
| 10:22.17 | rrowland | Now they're little weenies |
| 10:22.31 | TheBaron87 | well then the map won't be big enough. I think I'll just shrink everything across the board and zoom the camera in |
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| 10:22.42 | Clord | I calcucated exact numbers to make thor like it was before patch |
| 10:23.03 | Grum | why calculate? |
| 10:23.27 | Clord | actor scale =) |
| 10:23.36 | Clord | it stayed 1 scale even after patch |
| 10:23.40 | Grum | - <Radius value="1.375"/> |
| 10:23.41 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:23.41 | Grum | + <Radius value="0.8125"/> |
| 10:24.01 | Grum | - <ScaleMax value="0.650000,0.650000,0.650000"/> |
| 10:24.02 | Grum | + <ScaleMax value="0.550000,0.550000,0.550000"/> |
| 10:24.32 | Clord | to get thor to original scale: 1.94 |
| 10:24.36 | Clord | for actor part |
| 10:24.38 | Clord | =) |
| 10:24.45 | Clord | I mean |
| 10:25.07 | Clord | 1.9375 |
| 10:28.46 | Skizot | what the FUUUUUUUUU |
| 10:28.56 | Grum | FUUUUUUUFUFUFUFU? |
| 10:29.12 | Skizot | i don't get this error |
| 10:29.23 | Skizot | trying to get 2 player working. |
| 10:29.31 | Grum | well if you dont get i why are you complaining! ;) |
| 10:30.02 | rrowland | What's the error skiz |
| 10:30.43 | Skizot | well if i set player 1 to computer... i STILL COUNT as player 1. |
| 10:30.49 | Skizot | instead of player 3! |
| 10:31.53 | rrowland | Player 1 is computer, which slot is user? |
| 10:33.00 | TheBaron87 | why would player 1 not be user? not criticizing, I just can't see any possible reason |
| 10:33.26 | rrowland | Well he's debugging because he's not getting consistent numbers from a function |
| 10:33.32 | rrowland | Skiz are you still using picked player? |
| 10:34.46 | Skizot | yeah but i'm changing some stuff up/ |
| 10:35.08 | rrowland | Well when you're done banging your head on the wall, switch away from picked player :P |
| 10:36.21 | Clord | sometimes simple temporal integer loop is my solution |
| 10:36.22 | Skizot | i want to... but i have some stuff variabled. |
| 10:36.23 | Clord | for player picking |
| 10:36.33 | Skizot | and it has to be that way :( |
| 10:37.06 | Clord | lol but usually I ust pick players with proper trigger for that |
| 10:37.17 | Clord | however my vote triggers use loopers ^^ |
| 10:37.26 | Clord | then if there is winner.. ding ding ding |
| 10:38.08 | TheBaron87 | hey is there a good custom UI tutorial? something like the AC130 UI |
| 10:38.46 | ShadowTiger | life is the best tutorial |
| 10:38.51 | TheBaron87 | of course |
| 10:39.04 | ShadowTiger | lol i hope i was unhelpful |
| 10:39.52 | TheBaron87 | you were very helpful, just not in any immediate sense |
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| 10:47.15 | rrowland | So not knowing an ability returns level 0 |
| 10:47.24 | rrowland | And knowing an ability at level 1 returns level 0 |
| 10:47.28 | rrowland | That's intuitive |
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| 11:47.17 | Clord | I found great use for undo researching |
| 11:47.30 | Clord | when new round starts... it sets all research needed to be set to zero |
| 11:47.32 | Clord | =) |
| 11:47.36 | Clord | so it can be researched again |
| 11:48.37 | Clord | I go way beyond castle fight consept and include actual upgrades for races |
| 11:48.40 | Clord | it gives more choices |
| 11:54.24 | monoframe | Is the cinematic contest individual work, or can you participate as a group? |
| 11:55.52 | FrozenFirebat | does bank saves not work currently or something? |
| 11:56.09 | monoframe | Frozen, did you check the topic about banks at Hive? |
| 11:56.12 | Clord | considering there can be single winner in each position.... |
| 11:56.18 | Clord | I don't think group work is wanted |
| 11:56.40 | FrozenFirebat | no mono... I understand how it works in concept, but when I restart the mission, It doesn't recognize the bank i'm trying to load anymore. |
| 11:56.53 | monoframe | wait, I'll link you to that thread |
| 11:56.55 | monoframe | searching s: |
| 11:57.26 | FrozenFirebat | cause I got my login screen working... so I wanted to tie it to a bank for show XD |
| 11:57.31 | Clord | I have one cinematic idea but it is way too imba ^^ |
| 11:58.22 | FrozenFirebat | here's a cinimatic idea... make a Movie using Adobe or Vegas... then Upload it into your map and make it play on start |
| 11:58.32 | FrozenFirebat | BAM! |
| 11:58.45 | Clord | it is kinda tempting contest as it gives something to even those who just try |
| 11:58.57 | Skizot | oh goody |
| 11:59.01 | Skizot | we're getting somewhere! |
| 11:59.07 | FrozenFirebat | yay! |
| 11:59.14 | monoframe | Here's another topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=UtYFTwdJ-O4&feature=related |
| 11:59.21 | monoframe | still trying to find the better one at hive |
| 11:59.25 | monoframe | oh wait |
| 11:59.26 | monoframe | shite |
| 11:59.27 | monoframe | D: |
| 11:59.28 | monoframe | sorry |
| 11:59.32 | monoframe | http://www.jx3.net/tdg/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=3411 |
| 11:59.35 | monoframe | here's eet |
| 12:00.35 | Clord | personally I don't much like to deal with cutscenes in-game map |
| 12:00.40 | Clord | lol |
| 12:00.44 | Clord | at least in camera sense |
| 12:00.53 | monoframe | I would join the cinematic contest, but considering that my current cinematic would take about 3 256x256 maps to produce and would last more than 1 minute s: |
| 12:01.02 | monoframe | So no for me |
| 12:01.07 | monoframe | but I could help out with camera work |
| 12:01.14 | monoframe | If anyone's really up to it |
| 12:01.43 | monoframe | Just finished my 4 week long arts and craft examination work so now I'm free for about 3-4 weeks until other ones kick in :P |
| 12:03.49 | FrozenFirebat | well that didn't help me at all... but thx tho |
| 12:03.59 | monoframe | lol |
| 12:05.21 | Clord | lol contest rather is bit limiting in creativity |
| 12:05.28 | Clord | I would like to give viewer choices time to time |
| 12:05.32 | Clord | interactive cinematic |
| 12:05.34 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:05.36 | monoframe | FrozenFirebat, here's eet: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/galaxy-editor-help-zone-647/sc2-bank-files-critics-167005/ |
| 12:05.43 | monoframe | examples included |
| 12:06.27 | monoframe | Clord, inspiration taken from Japanese horror games? |
| 12:07.30 | monoframe | "What to do next?: a) Walk out of the shop; b) Fight back against the hordes of zombies" You select: "a" "Plane falls from the sky. You're squashed. You die. The End" |
| 12:08.02 | Clord | idea is yeah that for example if you make wrong choice... one from three is for example wrong choice ;) |
| 12:08.17 | Clord | and it means most likely restart |
| 12:08.18 | Clord | lol |
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| 12:08.55 | Clord | You see Banelign nearby... a) poke it b) kick it c) shoot it |
| 12:08.56 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:09.14 | Clord | obviously first two would not end well |
| 12:09.34 | monoframe | You could even make the viewer be able to tap the baneling pet :P |
| 12:10.14 | monoframe | Or take him up in the air and throw on the ground, just like in Dungeon Keeper |
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| 12:11.17 | Clord | and amusement mode where game just picks randomly from choices giving cinematic experience |
| 12:11.18 | Clord | lol |
| 12:12.02 | Clord | as far I know "preload" for bank file is not must if bank is not loaded immediately |
| 12:12.04 | Clord | aka opened |
| 12:12.11 | Clord | not at least integers |
| 12:13.26 | Skizot | lol |
| 12:13.35 | Skizot | shoot bullet lose life |
| 12:15.10 | Clord | lol |
| 12:15.21 | Clord | I tested it in battle.net custom game |
| 12:15.26 | Clord | preload is not must =) |
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| 12:15.33 | Clord | lol and other playr confirmed it |
| 12:15.37 | Clord | saw my starting exp |
| 12:16.55 | Clord | I just hope my... save file after every kill what adds more exp is not overdoing it |
| 12:16.57 | Clord | =) |
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| 12:19.53 | FrozenFirebat | the monoframe, found out the problem... appearently you have to preload banks to get them to work, so if you allow the bank to be named something random, it cannot be loaded the next time =( |
| 12:20.11 | monoframe | The topic helped you out? |
| 12:20.59 | FrozenFirebat | yeah... it actually made it worse, now that I know the problem. |
| 12:21.12 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/triumvirate-2-0/. Triumvirate 2.0. TimberWolf587 (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 12:22.21 | Clord | weirdly it applies to unit loading |
| 12:22.27 | Clord | as integers load just fine anyways |
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| 12:26.02 | monoframe | shiiite that was surely too much fish for me S: |
| 12:26.47 | Skizot | son of a .... |
| 12:26.58 | Skizot | i'm gonna have to just DUPLICATE all my triggers. |
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| 12:27.05 | Skizot | fuck hoping a loop will do it. |
| 12:27.19 | ubdead | hello |
| 12:27.23 | FrozenFirebat | ello |
| 12:27.23 | ubdead | Skizot O_o |
| 12:27.43 | ubdead | how much sleep did you get lol |
| 12:29.49 | Clord | silly editor think copy pasting to other project as possible change to project I copied stuff rom |
| 12:29.51 | Clord | from |
| 12:30.05 | Clord | so it asked it I want save project without changes |
| 12:31.57 | ubdead | doh ;) |
| 12:35.21 | Skizot | i'll sleep when i'm dead |
| 12:35.29 | Skizot | i WILL have 2 player working dammit. |
| 12:35.33 | Skizot | speaking of which |
| 12:35.37 | Skizot | ubdead are you US? |
| 12:36.00 | ubdead | nope |
| 12:36.59 | Skizot | dick. |
| 12:37.05 | ubdead | yes please |
| 12:37.09 | ubdead | wait what |
| 12:38.26 | ubdead | so, if anybody would happen to know how to unload a SINGLE unit from a transport using triggers, i'd be happy to know |
| 12:39.20 | Skizot | target said unit in the cargo THEN unload it? |
| 12:39.53 | Skizot | does it matter which one? |
| 12:39.57 | ubdead | yep |
| 12:40.00 | Skizot | oh |
| 12:40.05 | Skizot | well... |
| 12:40.07 | Skizot | that sucks. |
| 12:40.18 | ubdead | yea could have used index maybe |
| 12:40.29 | ubdead | but there is no way to get the index from a cargo unit |
| 12:40.42 | ubdead | but meh, screw it ;) |
| 12:41.13 | Skizot | try this. |
| 12:41.21 | Skizot | a trigger that fires when a unit is loaded |
| 12:41.34 | Skizot | then add the triggering unit to an index |
| 12:42.01 | ubdead | well could work yes, but seems like overkill to me |
| 12:42.17 | ubdead | it's not that critical i gueess |
| 12:50.53 | Skizot | well you asked. |
| 12:51.00 | Skizot | i'm giving option i can think of. |
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| 12:56.02 | Shadowclaimer | Morning my delicious minions |
| 12:58.21 | Skizot | yay |
| 12:58.25 | Skizot | my map is now two player. |
| 12:58.27 | Skizot | i hope. |
| 12:58.29 | Skizot | :D |
| 12:58.50 | Shadowclaimer | Grats Skiz =D |
| 12:58.54 | Shadowclaimer | I have a working map for the first time |
| 12:59.05 | Shadowclaimer | tested it last night with 4 people and was proud |
| 12:59.18 | Skizot | i hope to test mine soon |
| 12:59.18 | Clord | what that map is? |
| 12:59.19 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:59.25 | Shadowclaimer | Zombise |
| 12:59.27 | Shadowclaimer | Zombies* |
| 12:59.33 | Clord | hehe... I have zergs ;) |
| 12:59.35 | Shadowclaimer | a multiplayer game where when your ally dies he becomes a zombie xD |
| 12:59.44 | Clord | oh :) |
| 12:59.46 | Shadowclaimer | so you're trying to survive, scavenge for food and such |
| 12:59.55 | Shadowclaimer | but if you die, you come back as a zombie, and are trying to kill survivors |
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| 13:00.13 | Clord | I have top down shooter up to 12-14 players... matter of blizzard limit |
| 13:00.22 | Clord | you are either marine, ghost or medivac |
| 13:00.23 | Clord | =) |
| 13:00.33 | Clord | "Zom...Zerg Survival" |
| 13:00.38 | Clord | that is actual map name |
| 13:01.43 | Skizot | oh crap. |
| 13:01.53 | Skizot | gotta make marines not collide with ANYTHING |
| 13:02.21 | Skizot | so as to make them able to walk through each other. |
| 13:02.23 | Skizot | :/ |
| 13:02.36 | Clord | I made stuff to make unit speed zero in cases it stays still so they don't flee because they are hitted |
| 13:02.55 | Clord | sometimes attack is disabled |
| 13:03.04 | Paras1te | http://instantheavy.totalh.com/crysomemore.html |
| 13:03.05 | Paras1te | xP |
| 13:03.42 | Clord | one of my online friends want fourth class to be marauder |
| 13:03.45 | Clord | lol |
| 13:04.36 | Clord | if starcraft series does something better.. it is more beliavable terran race |
| 13:04.48 | Clord | for example humans in future from aliens etc series |
| 13:04.53 | Clord | they are like medieval compared to that |
| 13:05.03 | Clord | like someone cutted technology budget |
| 13:05.22 | monoframe | What part of the flamethrower you don't like? They're space cowboys after all |
| 13:05.46 | Clord | something is wrong if motion tracking weapon what takes two hands to use to be real killer is high tech 2200 |
| 13:05.52 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:06.10 | Clord | I mean aliens unvierse |
| 13:06.11 | Clord | lol |
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| 13:08.24 | Ousnius | hi sixen |
| 13:08.30 | Ousnius | could u delete my team on sc2mapster? |
| 13:08.46 | Ousnius | I want to create a new one, or just rename it |
| 13:10.45 | Shadowclaimer | uh oh |
| 13:10.47 | Shadowclaimer | I just removed a splat off a unit |
| 13:10.55 | Shadowclaimer | and for some reason my editor went white and .. |
| 13:10.56 | Shadowclaimer | it crashed |
| 13:10.58 | Shadowclaimer | yay |
| 13:11.08 | Shadowclaimer | motherfucking swear, I forgot to save after doing the terran additions.. |
| 13:11.22 | Hati | Ousnius: guessing he is sleeping |
| 13:11.43 | Hati | Mario SC2 ? |
| 13:11.46 | Hati | Ousinius ? |
| 13:14.35 | Ousnius | re |
| 13:14.36 | Ousnius | xDDD |
| 13:14.37 | Ousnius | sry |
| 13:14.39 | Ousnius | y mario |
| 13:22.34 | Skizot | anyone here US and have BALLS OF STEEL? |
| 13:24.46 | Shadowclaimer | I have balls but I'm pretty sure they are made of fleshy organic material or a carbon based substance |
| 13:25.33 | Skizot | well then no testing for you. |
| 13:25.40 | Shadowclaimer | damn |
| 13:25.51 | Skizot | my map is VERY experimental with 2 players. |
| 13:26.09 | Shadowclaimer | I'll help ya out lol |
| 13:26.15 | Skizot | like could BSOD some shit. |
| 13:26.20 | Shadowclaimer | Even better |
| 13:26.22 | Shadowclaimer | saving my stuff |
| 13:26.59 | Skizot | i hope you know how to work the swapper etc? |
| 13:27.06 | Shadowclaimer | of course |
| 13:27.14 | Shadowclaimer | I couldn't have gotten my multiplayer zombies owrking without it |
| 13:33.21 | monoframe | http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?p=881315#post881315 |
| 13:35.23 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/puzzle-baneling/. Puzzle Baneling. jackosmacko (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
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| 13:35.50 | `228zip | Hi there |
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| 13:39.51 | Skizot | zip |
| 13:39.52 | Skizot | ! |
| 13:40.12 | Arthas-zzz | wb `228zip |
| 13:40.38 | `228zip | It's only 15 in the morning =o |
| 13:40.49 | `228zip | I didn't sleep enough$* |
| 13:40.56 | Arthas-zzz | i slept even less |
| 13:41.01 | Arthas-zzz | i ended up sitting here til 7:15 or so |
| 13:41.04 | Arthas-zzz | discussing walls! |
| 13:41.10 | `228zip | x) |
| 13:41.35 | Shadowclaimer | Skizot's map rocks yada yada yada |
| 13:41.45 | Arthas- | which one |
| 13:42.09 | Skizot | side scroller |
| 13:42.12 | Arthas- | ah |
| 13:42.13 | Skizot | contra style. |
| 13:42.17 | Skizot | has hiccups. |
| 13:42.22 | Arthas- | when will there be testing map available? =) |
| 13:42.23 | Skizot | but fixable ones! |
| 13:42.39 | `228zip | Actually Arthas- |
| 13:42.48 | `228zip | I thought of another fix for the latency |
| 13:42.55 | Arthas- | shoot |
| 13:43.11 | Arthas- | i did too |
| 13:43.17 | Arthas- | but i didnt read the code yet |
| 13:43.19 | `228zip | Now that the camera is always centered on the buggy |
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| 13:43.29 | `228zip | I can just use the position of the mouse on the UI |
| 13:43.32 | `228zip | And be fine! |
| 13:43.54 | `228zip | I just need to know what the center of the screen is |
| 13:43.58 | `228zip | Oh but.. |
| 13:44.11 | `228zip | I'd need the view to be completely top-down for that =/ |
| 13:45.01 | `228zip | Right now it takes the position of the mouse in the game world |
| 13:45.16 | `228zip | and from it, generates the angle the missile will be going in |
| 13:45.45 | `228zip | The angle between the mouse position and the buggy position |
| 13:46.00 | `228zip | Obviously the buggy moves while the thing is triggering, hence the problem |
| 13:46.43 | `228zip | You had another solution Arthas- ? |
| 13:47.03 | Arthas- | not sure, going to take a quickie look :p |
| 13:48.35 | Skizot | anyway to turn off the mouse for a player? |
| 13:48.51 | Skizot | i want it hidden but not controlling the camera |
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| 13:51.00 | mata | hey ya'll |
| 13:51.06 | Macvot | hi |
| 13:51.25 | mata | i got a quick question, anyone know if it's possible to pause the game through triggers? |
| 13:51.48 | Macvot | i don't think so but im not sure |
| 13:52.06 | Macvot | im not experienced enough to tell you |
| 13:52.27 | mata | ah well, i cant figure out a way to |
| 13:52.39 | mata | i thought i could emulate it by pausing all units and turning the animation speed to 0.0 |
| 13:52.56 | mata | but the animation speed thing doesn't really work the way i want it to, it seems pretty complicated |
| 13:53.19 | Macvot | i don't get it |
| 13:53.26 | Macvot | what do you want exactly? |
| 13:53.56 | Macvot | why would you pause ? |
| 13:53.59 | mata | trying to make a cinematic during which the units don't move |
| 13:55.21 | mata | i didn't think it would be so hard :\ |
| 13:55.21 | Macvot | weird |
| 13:55.21 | Macvot | i haven't made any cinematic yet |
| 13:55.21 | Macvot | but i thought they wouldn't move |
| 13:55.23 | Macvot | can they move lol? |
| 13:55.39 | mata | yeah they behave just like normally, you just cant give them orders |
| 13:55.50 | mata | even with the pause all units triggers, they won't move but they'll still play idle animations |
| 13:56.10 | Macvot | oh isee what you mean |
| 13:57.18 | Macvot | thats seems hard to do |
| 13:57.51 | Macvot | you really want them to be immobile |
| 13:58.34 | Arthas- | `228zip |
| 13:58.46 | `228zip | yes ? |
| 13:58.52 | Arthas- | they way I see it now |
| 13:59.05 | Arthas- | you hit mouse 1 / 2, the clicking gets stored |
| 13:59.38 | Arthas- | it goes into the trigger that actually does something and there it makes use of the old x & y coordinates again? |
| 14:00.17 | `228zip | Yes, the click is stored but the buggy has moved while the thing was triggering |
| 14:00.30 | Arthas- | is it not possible to in the cfirst trigger |
| 14:00.34 | Arthas- | store the actual anglw |
| 14:00.44 | `228zip | Oh |
| 14:00.54 | Arthas- | sure, it wont be the point one shot at |
| 14:00.55 | Arthas- | BUT |
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| 14:01.07 | Arthas- | it will have constitnency (i hate english) |
| 14:01.13 | Arthas- | so it will be more like lag in quake 3 |
| 14:01.16 | `228zip | You think that the latency would come from calling the weapon-specific trigger ? |
| 14:01.30 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 14:01.39 | Arthas- | or well |
| 14:01.52 | Arthas- | i guess one would have to do testing |
| 14:02.35 | Arthas- | point initPos = UnitGetPosition(turret[p]); |
| 14:02.35 | Arthas- | point newPos = Point(EventMouseClickedPosXWorld(), EventMouseClickedPosYWorld()); |
| 14:02.39 | Arthas- | I think that would be the problem |
| 14:02.53 | Arthas- | buggy is at point A and I click mouse 1 |
| 14:03.05 | Arthas- | then when the trigger exectues and the two above lines go |
| 14:03.34 | Arthas- | it will take the new position of the unit (at point B), but it will still use the X & Y of the point A buggy |
| 14:03.46 | `228zip | uh ? where are you looking at ? |
| 14:03.55 | Arthas- | weapons.galaxy i think |
| 14:03.59 | Arthas- | rockerlauncher_fire |
| 14:04.04 | `228zip | I think the names here are not representative, they come from me being lazy |
| 14:04.15 | `228zip | And not wanting to create extra vars |
| 14:04.33 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 14:04.43 | `228zip | newPos isn't |
| 14:05.14 | `228zip | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:05.21 | `228zip | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:05.27 | `228zip | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:05.39 | `228zip | And it works fine, when there's no latency |
| 14:06.04 | Arthas- | lemme try something :p |
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| 14:07.31 | Shadowclaimer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp7PSZAE8aM&feature=related |
| 14:07.33 | Shadowclaimer | Merry Christmas |
| 14:07.34 | Azu | Xan: Upload done, but have to change name etc |
| 14:07.38 | Shadowclaimer | Its not SC related |
| 14:08.22 | Azu | Shadowclaimer: Zombies?!?! |
| 14:08.30 | Shadowclaimer | Azu major progress so far |
| 14:08.36 | Shadowclaimer | tried to recruit you to help test last night |
| 14:08.39 | Azu | Oh |
| 14:08.46 | Azu | Sorry >< |
| 14:08.47 | Asa | Does anyone know if you can change the icon for resources? |
| 14:08.56 | Azu | Match today |
| 14:09.01 | Azu | Omw home now |
| 14:09.45 | Shadowclaimer | I' |
| 14:09.50 | Shadowclaimer | I'm gonna need to jack somebody's hero system probably |
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| 14:10.02 | Azu | :) |
| 14:10.05 | Zaratulius | hi al |
| 14:10.07 | Zaratulius | *all |
| 14:10.24 | Azu | Id Love to help you test it when i ger home |
| 14:10.26 | Azu | Get* |
| 14:10.34 | Shadowclaimer | Yea I just need a second player to tag along and help me hold off the zombie hordes |
| 14:10.42 | ubdead | are you on EU? |
| 14:10.43 | `228zip | Arthas-, what are you trying to do ? =o |
| 14:11.53 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/shrink-td/. Shrink TD. Dest1nyCP (Manager/Author), Ousnius (Author/Artist). Approved by xhatix. |
| 14:12.19 | mata | with regards to the "run console command" trigger |
| 14:12.23 | mata | do we know what console commands there are? |
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| 14:15.21 | Azu | Meh |
| 14:15.33 | Azu | ~2h till im home ;_; |
| 14:15.55 | ubdead | Q_Q |
| 14:16.53 | Skizot | zip... i'm this || close to having my sidescroller COMPLETELY multiplayer. |
| 14:17.09 | Skizot | other than player 2 not being able to a and d move or jump or either player shoot. |
| 14:17.40 | ubdead | oh yea thats close |
| 14:18.20 | Azu | :p |
| 14:18.33 | `228zip | Skizot: What the hell =O |
| 14:19.02 | Skizot | ? |
| 14:19.08 | Shadowclaimer | Yay computer spawned Stalkers work! |
| 14:19.09 | Skizot | i don't know either. |
| 14:19.20 | Asa | Is there a way to extract files from the sc2 data files or a website that has them already? I want to look through all the icons |
| 14:19.32 | Shadowclaimer | Asa |
| 14:19.35 | Shadowclaimer | WinMPQ on the Assets files |
| 14:19.41 | Azu | Shadowclaimer: :x |
| 14:19.42 | Shadowclaimer | .sc2assets are just mpqs under a different name |
| 14:21.12 | Asa | Tried it but it was blank when I used an MPQ viewer |
| 14:21.16 | Asa | I'll try again |
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| 14:23.43 | Azu | Oh |
| 14:23.53 | Azu | Tbdm~ |
| 14:29.59 | TheLaughingMan | Ladik's MPQ Editor is better |
| 14:31.12 | Ousnius | yeah xD |
| 14:31.47 | Shadowclaimer | yay changing to a Stalker kinda works |
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| 14:33.50 | Azu | :p |
| 14:37.19 | Shadowclaimer | Changing to a Stalker now works right |
| 14:40.34 | Azu | :3 |
| 14:45.13 | Shadowclaimer | hmm |
| 14:45.14 | Skizot | oh man. |
| 14:45.15 | Shadowclaimer | bleh |
| 14:45.18 | Skizot | so much freaking work. |
| 14:45.20 | Shadowclaimer | hard to come up wtih a way to keep a player zombie from being supercamped |
| 14:45.40 | Skizot | also 228zip, FULL bullet fan now. |
| 14:45.47 | Skizot | 360 degrees baby! |
| 14:46.03 | `228zip | What was the problem ? |
| 14:46.11 | Skizot | some atan2 crap. |
| 14:46.18 | Skizot | but it's SO sexy |
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| 14:57.11 | Gohla | Is there any way to set the action/ability that is used when right clicking while having a unit selected? |
| 14:57.29 | ubdead | try setting the ID field in the data editor |
| 14:57.43 | ubdead | i never tried it, but i suppose thats how it works |
| 14:58.10 | ubdead | so if you would put "Move" for the ability ID in you ability, it would activate everytime you move your unit |
| 14:58.28 | ubdead | (just a theory) |
| 15:00.40 | JamesObscura | Does anyone know what the equivalent of having an array parameter is in galaxy? |
| 15:02.28 | Gohla | 15ubdead: nope that doesn't work |
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| 15:03.10 | Gohla | It's a turret with an ability to fire a missile to a point, it auto fires the missile ability when you right click a unit, but not if you click anywhere in the level |
| 15:03.36 | ubdead | figures |
| 15:03.42 | ubdead | mnn |
| 15:04.08 | ubdead | what if you would change the command for the move button to your ability? |
| 15:04.20 | ubdead | it's a long shot |
| 15:06.16 | Vailreth | hello all and good what ever time of the day it is for you |
| 15:06.24 | ubdead | thanks |
| 15:06.25 | Gohla | hmm lets try, i doubt it tho :p |
| 15:06.36 | ubdead | me 2, but worth a shot isn't it ;) |
| 15:07.24 | Shadowclaimer | Azu you wanna help me test the new version? has no real endgoals except to survive |
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| 15:12.12 | ubdead | does anybody know how to effect the train ability to not automatic add items to the closest unit with an inventory |
| 15:12.53 | Skizot | MOOOOOOTIIIIIVVVVVEEEEE |
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| 15:16.13 | Vailreth | cn you give the selling structure a rally point like ability and set that rally point on a hero in range or something? |
| 15:19.29 | Asa | Can you have more than 3 submenus? |
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| 15:24.55 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/wasteland-patrol/. Wasteland Patrol. TheSecretArts (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
| 15:25.00 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zarakks-cinematic-deadline/. Zarakk's Cinematic "Deadline". Zarakk (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
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| 15:30.17 | XBMspec | Hello everyone. |
| 15:31.35 | XBMspec | Anyone have some basic tuts for using variables more effectively? |
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| 15:35.04 | XBMspec | or could someone explain how to use a basic loop to modify 8 players starting resources? =p |
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| 15:39.25 | Zaratulius | Asa no u can have only 3 submenus |
| 15:42.08 | Zaratulius | XBMspec create Triger set event on game-map initialization create local variable named let say "i" crate a event loop General - For each integer i from 1 to 8 with increment 1, do (Actions) and set action to Player - Modify player i Minerals: Set To 10000 |
| 15:44.15 | Skizot | http://i43.tinypic.com/f2j3a8.jpg |
| 15:45.05 | Zaratulius | nice writghs :D |
| 15:45.09 | Skizot | thanks |
| 15:45.58 | depthsofchaos | what modeling program did you use?:o looks sweet |
| 15:47.29 | vjeux|away | nice |
| 15:48.03 | Skizot | 3ds max |
| 15:49.09 | XBMspec | doesn't the exporter only support 3dsmax atm? |
| 15:49.18 | Skizot | yup |
| 15:49.22 | XBMspec | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:49.25 | XBMspec | No love for Maya =p |
| 15:50.19 | Skizot | can maya run maxscripts? |
| 15:51.07 | XBMspec | No it has it's own scripting language called MEL |
| 15:51.38 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/cutscene-contest-queen/. [Cutscene Contest] Queen. JeffQ (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 15:52.43 | XBMspec | I don't know who did the wraiths but the texture resolution looks like it could be bumped up. Blizzard uses 1024x1024 for their units. |
| 15:52.54 | XBMspec | Including Spec/Normal |
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| 15:56.40 | Rugvip | what does the actor message "animation set time scale" do? :o |
| 15:56.54 | Hati | slowing animations up |
| 15:56.56 | Hati | eh down |
| 15:57.02 | Rugvip | either way I guess |
| 15:57.02 | Hati | or speeding them up |
| 15:57.10 | Rugvip | i've been messing around a bit with it |
| 15:57.14 | Rugvip | doesn't seem to do anything tho :< |
| 15:58.23 | gah | is there any way to change the pathing ingame? |
| 15:58.51 | Rugvip | you mean while playing? |
| 15:58.59 | gah | yeah |
| 15:59.08 | gah | when some trigger is activated ie |
| 15:59.10 | Rugvip | lots of invisible doodads? :D |
| 15:59.32 | gah | when I try to remove or kill the doodad with path blocker my units cant move over it |
| 15:59.53 | Skizot | http://i41.tinypic.com/j5h8b6.jpg |
| 16:00.06 | Rugvip | might have to set the actor to be removed when it's orphaned |
| 16:00.10 | Rugvip | or smth like that |
| 16:00.37 | Rugvip | oooh, shiny |
| 16:00.40 | gah | hmm, that might be an idea, thx |
| 16:01.18 | Rugvip | Skizot, do you if it's possible to edit models that are ingame yet? |
| 16:01.27 | Skizot | ? |
| 16:01.30 | Rugvip | = export and import :p |
| 16:01.42 | Rugvip | with all animations and attachment points etc. still intact |
| 16:01.45 | Skizot | nope |
| 16:01.48 | Rugvip | :< |
| 16:01.49 | Skizot | not possible. |
| 16:01.56 | Rugvip | I want to remove the wings from the viking |
| 16:02.08 | Skizot | we have basically a "team colored doodad exporter" |
| 16:02.09 | Hati | Skizot: animations aren't yet capable right? |
| 16:02.15 | Skizot | and i'm loving it either way :D |
| 16:02.20 | Rugvip | :D |
| 16:02.22 | Skizot | nope |
| 16:02.46 | Hati | hope blizz release their stuff in beta :x |
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| 16:03.28 | ubdead | or down |
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| 16:04.13 | ubdead | how big is a custom model (avg.) |
| 16:04.20 | ubdead | as in file size |
| 16:04.50 | Hati | with texture or just the mesh? |
| 16:04.58 | ubdead | including texture |
| 16:05.29 | `228zip | Skizot: What the hell is this hing ? |
| 16:05.36 | Skizot | what thing? |
| 16:05.44 | `228zip | the model you showed a minute ago |
| 16:05.48 | `228zip | 5 minutes |
| 16:05.51 | `228zip | actually |
| 16:06.08 | Hati | ubdead: 2-3mb maybe (uncompressed) |
| 16:06.09 | Skizot | http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie |
| 16:06.16 | Hati | with all files |
| 16:06.21 | ubdead | oh thats kinda big |
| 16:06.35 | Hati | but more than a guess |
| 16:06.44 | Skizot | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb21710/common/skins/common/blank.gif |
| 16:06.51 | Skizot | that's the starcraft1 sprite |
| 16:06.54 | Skizot | or not. |
| 16:06.55 | Skizot | faggots |
| 16:07.10 | Skizot | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090505210407/starcraft/images/1/18/Valkyrie_SC1_Game1.jpg |
| 16:07.13 | Skizot | THAT is. |
| 16:07.17 | Hati | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090505210407/starcraft/images/1/18/Valkyrie_SC1_Game1.jpg |
| 16:07.32 | `228zip | You didn't see much valkyries in SC1 =/ |
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| 16:08.28 | Hati | blizz should close their beta forums for weekends ... |
| 16:08.34 | Skizot | they are from BW |
| 16:08.35 | Hati | ppl are already trolling there too |
| 16:09.10 | Rugvip | siiiiiick, randomizing doodad animations was ezeh |
| 16:09.38 | Rugvip | had some 50 doodads of the same type on the screen at the same time, was pretty annoying to look at ^_^ |
| 16:10.27 | ubdead | hehe "Random offset" in the animation event? |
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| 16:10.57 | Ousnius | sb. with Eu client want to play our TD? |
| 16:11.03 | Rugvip | random durations of timescales with random periods :D |
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| 16:12.37 | ubdead | well that should work, or you could just check the "random" offset flag lol |
| 16:13.02 | Ousnius | pls test our TD we need lots of suggestions and feedback (<^.^<) http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/shrink-td/ |
| 16:13.19 | Alpha_vst | howdy |
| 16:13.21 | Rugvip | want it to keep randomizing |
| 16:13.57 | ubdead | i see |
| 16:14.11 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI-343wHrI my new video :P |
| 16:15.34 | Rugvip | how do you control the camera? |
| 16:15.42 | Rugvip | unit enters region -> apply camera object? |
| 16:16.06 | Alpha_vst | its a few things |
| 16:17.01 | ubdead | sexy camera alpha |
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| 16:17.16 | Alpha_vst | thanks still a few tweaks but im happy |
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| 16:19.02 | ubdead | but you seriously need to make your video's brighter |
| 16:19.05 | ubdead | it's waaaay to dark |
| 16:19.09 | ubdead | can hardly see anything |
| 16:19.20 | Alpha_vst | idono how to change it |
| 16:19.34 | Alpha_vst | im sure its from the shittu game quality |
| 16:19.52 | Alpha_vst | i can see it fine :P |
| 16:20.30 | deathnight114 | Where? |
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| 16:21.31 | Rugvip | meh.. |
| 16:21.37 | Clord | I want to see already what stats we get to see when published map |
| 16:21.48 | Clord | know... |
| 16:22.24 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 16:23.06 | Rugvip | I'm gonna have 20+ missiles and 10+ movers, and I'm trying to figure out a way to send different missiles with different movers throught triggers. Without having to make 200+ effects =_= |
| 16:23.10 | Rugvip | any ideas? ^_> |
| 16:23.18 | depthsofchaos | cool stuff, how did you make the lava rise ?:p |
| 16:23.36 | ubdead | i think you are having to reconsider this rugvip |
| 16:24.36 | Rugvip | doh |
| 16:25.46 | ubdead | would you really need 20 missiles and movers? |
| 16:27.23 | Rugvip | missiles = units moving in a pattern = movers :D |
| 16:27.26 | Rugvip | arcade game |
| 16:27.37 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/templar-battles/. Templar Arena. EphemeralNight (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
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| 16:28.09 | Rugvip | so it's gonna be a lot more than 20 when I'm done T_T |
| 16:28.22 | Bifuu | morning guys |
| 16:28.28 | ubdead | well hard labour mate ;) |
| 16:28.37 | ubdead | evening Bifuu |
| 16:29.33 | Rugvip | evening idd :p |
| 16:33.16 | Vailreth | hello Bifuu. |
| 16:33.26 | Clord | hi all again and again and again |
| 16:35.15 | devilirium | hi there |
| 16:36.38 | Clord | I guess it is more like this... regulars does not bother and sometimes comes says "hi all" |
| 16:36.38 | Clord | XD |
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| 16:38.39 | RingBearer | hmm.... machine abilities... |
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| 16:42.16 | Shadowclaimer | I have HOT COCOA! |
| 16:42.22 | Shadowclaimer | Eat it whoever it was yesterday that had some |
| 16:42.25 | ubdead | gz |
| 16:42.41 | ubdead | i had HOT NOODLES yesterday |
| 16:42.43 | ubdead | way batter |
| 16:43.51 | Alpha_vst | yummy |
| 16:46.22 | RingBearer | w00t editor crash |
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| 16:46.38 | Alpha_vst | WOOT |
| 16:46.47 | RingBearer | I want a dollar every time it crashes :/ |
| 16:46.53 | Shadowclaimer | when setting a splash to none on a unit it sometimes does that |
| 16:47.00 | Shadowclaimer | I want a free beta key everytime it does |
| 16:47.04 | Shadowclaimer | so that way my friends can actually play |
| 16:47.15 | RingBearer | it only costs 5 dollars to get into the beta now |
| 16:47.33 | Rugvip | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU....... |
| 16:47.50 | Nurre | Just join that Curse contest stuff |
| 16:47.51 | Rugvip | been working for quite some time on a good way to launch a missile "forward" |
| 16:48.02 | Nurre | Free beta kye nearly :P |
| 16:48.03 | Rugvip | apparently you can set the impact location to nothing ._. |
| 16:48.36 | ubdead | rugvip |
| 16:48.45 | ubdead | create a persistent effect |
| 16:48.54 | ubdead | with an off set off y= -500 |
| 16:49.14 | Tehwildcard | Can anyone record my cinematic for the cut scene contest? I can provide a copy of fraps, my computer cant hand it apparently |
| 16:49.15 | Rugvip | persistent O_o |
| 16:49.20 | ubdead | that will move the target to the edge of the map |
| 16:49.20 | Rugvip | you can just use launch missile |
| 16:49.41 | Rugvip | and then set it to outer point/unit |
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| 16:49.48 | Rugvip | with an offset |
| 16:50.08 | Rugvip | But, turns out you can remove the impact effect, so it won't impact at all :D |
| 16:50.25 | Rugvip | impact location* |
| 16:50.37 | ubdead | oh well i used periodic because i was spawning multiple missiles with different offsets |
| 16:50.59 | RingBearer | Question: How smart is the AI when it comes to using abilities, especially custom abilities? |
| 16:51.54 | ubdead | not smart |
| 16:51.56 | RingBearer | Can I rely on the AI to use abilitiles as much as it can or should I instead rely on triggers to use it for me |
| 16:52.02 | ubdead | you will have to write custom validators |
| 16:52.09 | RingBearer | ewww |
| 16:52.22 | ubdead | well it's not terribly hard |
| 16:52.41 | RingBearer | Triggers sounds easier through... (Its a boss-like unit) |
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| 16:53.11 | ubdead | oh yea |
| 16:53.11 | RingBearer | Never touched validators through. How are they? |
| 16:53.21 | ubdead | then you should definetly use triggers |
| 16:53.27 | ubdead | validators are very powerfull |
| 16:53.33 | ubdead | you can check about everything lol |
| 16:53.40 | RingBearer | A lot of the editor is very powerful :/ |
| 16:54.28 | ubdead | btw, who wanted to show the overlord ranges again when another unit was targetting an ability |
| 16:54.34 | ubdead | because i think i found out how lol |
| 16:57.21 | Vailreth | i would love to learn how to use validators |
| 16:58.27 | ubdead | yea im going to start writing tutorials about the DE after i finish my map |
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| 17:04.28 | Vailreth | cool |
| 17:04.46 | Vailreth | cant wait to read them if i can |
| 17:06.00 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know a way to attack models or actors to eahc other? |
| 17:06.05 | depthsofchaos | attach |
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| 17:08.30 | RingBearer | 1 sec |
| 17:08.42 | RingBearer | http://sc2mod.com/board/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=89 |
| 17:08.47 | RingBearer | there you go |
| 17:09.01 | RingBearer | wait actors and models... not units |
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| 17:09.09 | RingBearer | Thats for attaching units |
| 17:09.39 | depthsofchaos | thanks, not the most elegant way tho |
| 17:09.47 | RingBearer | Its a good tutorial through... I have that bookmarked :) |
| 17:09.48 | depthsofchaos | this seems to be moving them together |
| 17:10.03 | depthsofchaos | must be resource heavy |
| 17:10.53 | RingBearer | Yeah... It will work fine if there are not many of them |
| 17:10.59 | RingBearer | Not sure how it will scale up |
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| 17:13.02 | Odonen | So, I have this unit that 'morphs' from one mode to another, but my problem is I can't figure out how to make its HP stay the same while switching from form to form. Any ideas? |
| 17:13.14 | Odonen | I used the Viking transform ability to make this happen btw |
| 17:13.33 | RingBearer | Vikings keep their hp well enough |
| 17:13.57 | Odonen | I know, thats why I used their ability just swapped my units out |
| 17:14.00 | Odonen | =P |
| 17:14.12 | depthsofchaos | well change their hp to the same? |
| 17:14.37 | depthsofchaos | you mean they get full hp? |
| 17:14.42 | Odonen | yeah |
| 17:14.53 | Odonen | everytime I change forms they get full life =/ |
| 17:15.06 | Vailreth | i wonder if my turrets do that |
| 17:15.10 | Rugvip | depthsofchaos, i'd use a model actor |
| 17:15.28 | depthsofchaos | whats that ?:p |
| 17:15.45 | Rugvip | hold on a sec, editor lagging ._. |
| 17:16.29 | Vailreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOY3mudGrZ8 |
| 17:16.46 | Vailreth | there is commited just dont be too harsh |
| 17:16.48 | depthsofchaos | odonen i think the brood lord doesnt get full hp after morph |
| 17:16.51 | Rugvip | i've attached a model to mah viking using a "ModelAddition" actor |
| 17:16.52 | depthsofchaos | so you could look that |
| 17:17.32 | depthsofchaos | is your map public ?:o |
| 17:17.34 | Rugvip | set the host site operation to the attachment point you want to attach the model to |
| 17:17.38 | Rugvip | nope |
| 17:18.01 | depthsofchaos | gona give it a try thanks |
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| 17:20.40 | RingBearer | Where is cooldown for abilities defined? |
| 17:21.16 | depthsofchaos | validator? |
| 17:22.00 | Shadowclaimer | How does Zerg counter viking/banshee spam? |
| 17:22.15 | Shadowclaimer | Armies of Hydralisks and corruptors don't work |
| 17:22.18 | Shadowclaimer | because they just kept flanking me |
| 17:22.20 | RingBearer | lots of mutas and corruptors |
| 17:22.30 | Shadowclaimer | mutas is about my only option but their vikings eat them alive |
| 17:22.36 | depthsofchaos | i use the task manager to counter asap |
| 17:22.43 | RingBearer | lol |
| 17:22.56 | Shadowclaimer | This guy was an unskilled piece of shit, I countered every move of his, then he started just hitting and running and literally I had no way to counter it |
| 17:23.07 | Shadowclaimer | I could directly approach and annihilate him but he'd just run because hydralisks are so slow |
| 17:23.30 | Rugvip | depthsofchaos |
| 17:23.31 | Rugvip | http://bildr.no/view/648557 |
| 17:23.38 | RingBearer | Can the infester immoblize mechanical units? |
| 17:23.43 | Shadowclaimer | no |
| 17:23.44 | `228zip | Yes he can |
| 17:23.46 | Shadowclaimer | wait |
| 17:23.48 | Shadowclaimer | how! |
| 17:23.50 | `228zip | Can't mind control them |
| 17:23.57 | depthsofchaos | thanks very much |
| 17:23.58 | `228zip | but Fungal growth definitely works |
| 17:24.00 | RingBearer | errr he can MC air units now |
| 17:24.07 | `228zip | oh yeah |
| 17:24.10 | `228zip | He can MC everything |
| 17:24.12 | RingBearer | I want to know if he can MC a mothership |
| 17:24.16 | Shadowclaimer | I wasn't aware fungal growth could freaking hit air units |
| 17:24.19 | RingBearer | Because that would be epic |
| 17:24.22 | Vortexx2010 | is there way to set a dialogue item as an inventory slot? |
| 17:24.57 | Shadowclaimer | grr /facepalm |
| 17:25.03 | Shadowclaimer | makes me rage |
| 17:25.13 | `228zip | What ? |
| 17:25.22 | Shadowclaimer | that I didn't know infestors fungal growth could hit air units |
| 17:25.29 | Rugvip | btw, you have to create those site operations yourself, unless they already exist |
| 17:25.43 | RingBearer | I didn't realize it as well |
| 17:25.45 | `228zip | However, targetting air units can be hard |
| 17:25.50 | Shadowclaimer | well the problem I was hitting |
| 17:25.53 | RingBearer | This actually makes infestors pretty good now |
| 17:25.54 | Shadowclaimer | I had to keep an overseer iwth my army 24/7 |
| 17:25.56 | `228zip | Because you have to target their position on the ground |
| 17:26.00 | Shadowclaimer | because banshees cloak lasts forever |
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| 17:26.19 | Shadowclaimer | then if they focused the overseer I was screwed, I tried bringing 2-3 but it got really expensive |
| 17:26.20 | `228zip | Don't you have hydras in your army ? |
| 17:26.24 | Shadowclaimer | My army WAS hydras |
| 17:26.25 | Shadowclaimer | nothing else |
| 17:26.33 | Shadowclaimer | his army was entirely vikings and banshees |
| 17:26.44 | Shadowclaimer | he never even got an expansion base the entire game |
| 17:26.47 | Shadowclaimer | just kept his main one |
| 17:26.57 | RingBearer | Fungual Growth reveals cloaked units |
| 17:26.58 | `228zip | What the hell were you doing then ? |
| 17:27.00 | Shadowclaimer | I had an amazing air defense back at my base, so he couldn't touch my base |
| 17:27.13 | `228zip | Just expand and pwn him |
| 17:27.19 | Shadowclaimer | Kinda hard |
| 17:27.23 | Shadowclaimer | he owuld pick off my expansion bases |
| 17:27.29 | Shadowclaimer | hsi vikings would wipe out my overseer |
| 17:27.30 | `228zip | If he's gone all air then you can pound him with a ground force |
| 17:27.31 | Shadowclaimer | he'd cloak his banshees |
| 17:27.36 | Shadowclaimer | then I'm fucked |
| 17:27.37 | `228zip | Because air units are very expensive |
| 17:28.12 | Shadowclaimer | I had no counter for him |
| 17:28.17 | Shadowclaimer | and my corruptors got annihilated by his vikings |
| 17:28.38 | Shadowclaimer | even with their bonus ability |
| 17:28.43 | `228zip | That's what I usually do as terran against double starport builds : just go in with a lot of marauders, I can't kill him but there's nothing he can do |
| 17:28.52 | Shadowclaimer | I just hate fucking losing to someone I know isn't better than me |
| 17:28.53 | `228zip | Hydras are enough =/ |
| 17:29.00 | Shadowclaimer | hydras would be enough if they were faster |
| 17:29.11 | Shadowclaimer | I'd move my army over to here and defend, then he'd hit my other expnasion |
| 17:29.29 | `228zip | If you really had problems getting expansions |
| 17:29.43 | `228zip | Why not expanding the creep to place a few spore crawlers before putting it down ? |
| 17:29.49 | Shadowclaimer | I tried, he'd wipe them out with banshees |
| 17:29.53 | Shadowclaimer | even if I backed htem up with hydras |
| 17:30.02 | Shadowclaimer | whiel they are placing spore crawlers are terribly vulnerable now |
| 17:30.18 | Shadowclaimer | they don't have their detector status while not-burrowed do they? |
| 17:30.23 | `228zip | Can I have the replay ? I can't believe you got yourself in such a situation |
| 17:30.32 | Shadowclaimer | where can I find the file? |
| 17:30.43 | `228zip | In your Starcraft 2 folder |
| 17:30.47 | `228zip | Under Replays |
| 17:30.49 | Shadowclaimer | alright |
| 17:31.22 | Shadowclaimer | don't have a replays folde,r do I have to get it off my battle.net and save it to my harddrive? |
| 17:31.25 | Shadowclaimer | because I know I have it |
| 17:31.34 | Shadowclaimer | nvm |
| 17:31.34 | Triceron | users |
| 17:31.35 | Shadowclaimer | its in my documents |
| 17:34.32 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 17:34.44 | Skizot | Shadowclaimer |
| 17:34.49 | Skizot | pm in sc2 |
| 17:34.50 | Shadowclaimer | ? |
| 17:34.51 | Shadowclaimer | alright |
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| 17:39.44 | Arthas-zzz | Ingela |
| 17:39.45 | Arthas-zzz | Xan |
| 17:39.48 | Arthas-zzz | anyone? |
| 17:39.54 | Xan | wat |
| 17:39.57 | Arthas-zzz | 2v2? |
| 17:40.00 | Arthas-zzz | wanna show a friend |
| 17:40.02 | Arthas-zzz | come on |
| 17:40.03 | Xan | oh |
| 17:40.04 | Arthas-zzz | take one for the team |
| 17:40.05 | Arthas-zzz | ! |
| 17:40.06 | Xan | fine |
| 17:40.08 | Xan | 2min |
| 17:43.49 | Durrean | why do i have the feeling, that the 300 video for the contest will be well high placed? |
| 17:44.37 | Durrean | Arthas, EU? |
| 17:44.43 | RingBearer | This is not sparta... and stop yelling |
| 17:49.14 | Vailreth | sigh i wont be able to enter into the contest but thats ok.. |
| 17:49.58 | Durrean | why? |
| 17:50.02 | Alpha_vst | WTF |
| 17:50.08 | Alpha_vst | im working on my new healing |
| 17:50.12 | Alpha_vst | and it heals enemys |
| 17:50.26 | Vailreth | target filters there Alpha |
| 17:50.39 | Alpha_vst | its set to not heal enemys :( |
| 17:50.43 | Durrean | create a ew gamemode, kill yourself faster than the enemy Alpha ;) |
| 17:51.49 | Alpha_vst | my game is hard enough |
| 17:52.11 | Alpha_vst | actually if i had my way you wouldnt last 2 seconds but you know |
| 17:52.24 | RingBearer | You die during the loading screen |
| 17:52.26 | RingBearer | ^^ |
| 17:53.21 | Vailreth | dam i lost ... |
| 17:53.59 | Vailreth | any way i need more practice at cinematics so idont think i should enter |
| 17:54.29 | Vailreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOY3mudGrZ8 here is my current piece not my entry but just a trial. |
| 17:54.52 | Azu | Shadowclaimer home~ |
| 17:55.45 | RingBearer | you only have 60 seconds... its hard to do anytyhing really in that time period |
| 17:56.06 | Durrean | btw. loading screen and credits do not count to the time |
| 17:56.07 | RingBearer | I remeber back in war3 that I tried to make a movie introduction to my rpg... it lasted around 20 minutes >.< |
| 17:56.29 | Durrean | xD |
| 17:56.50 | Magnevv | ouch :P |
| 17:57.05 | Durrean | i really like the trigger editor for cinematics, its really nice to have everything on a timeline |
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| 17:58.33 | `228zip | Arthas- ? still there ? |
| 17:58.45 | `228zip | ~seen arthas- |
| 17:58.46 | purl | arthas- <~zet@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 52m 42s ago, saying: 'lemme try something :p'. |
| 17:58.53 | `228zip | ~seen arthas-zzz |
| 17:58.53 | purl | arthas-zzz is currently on #sc2mapster (59m 10s). Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 18m 48s, last said: '!'. |
| 18:01.08 | Alpha_vst | :D |
| 18:01.20 | Alpha_vst | sigh i hate this healing ability lol |
| 18:01.32 | Vailreth | why? |
| 18:01.32 | Alpha_vst | starting over :D |
| 18:01.41 | Alpha_vst | because it wont work |
| 18:02.06 | Vailreth | ah |
| 18:02.26 | Alpha_vst | i have jsut the basic medivac heal and it wont heal |
| 18:02.46 | Clord | lol... as long your target is biological it should work |
| 18:03.36 | Alpha_vst | OH |
| 18:03.39 | Alpha_vst | thank you |
| 18:03.48 | Alpha_vst | duh |
| 18:03.58 | Alpha_vst | i took off bio from marines :P |
| 18:04.08 | Alpha_vst | to limit them from Pking |
| 18:04.11 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:04.40 | Clord | you can alternatively change filters |
| 18:04.48 | Clord | so it can heal also non biological |
| 18:04.59 | Alpha_vst | yeah i got it now lol |
| 18:05.02 | Alpha_vst | forgot about that |
| 18:05.51 | Clord | yeah... these things are not so hard coded like in warcraft III |
| 18:06.15 | Clord | data editor is pretty much dedicated for community |
| 18:06.21 | Clord | also |
| 18:06.27 | Alpha_vst | works now lol |
| 18:06.46 | Alpha_vst | now to make it an aura |
| 18:06.51 | Alpha_vst | again :P |
| 18:07.07 | Durrean | how can i embed a youtube video in the forum? |
| 18:07.24 | Alpha_vst | you dont |
| 18:07.27 | Alpha_vst | muhahaha |
| 18:07.30 | Alpha_vst | idono |
| 18:07.37 | Clord | if you make it aura you probably not want it to be castable unless it is aura for target ^^ |
| 18:08.26 | Clord | <<center>><<youtube wgFWdDMwfpk>><</center>> |
| 18:08.36 | Clord | not sure if it works in forums part |
| 18:09.02 | Shadowclaimer | If you were a squad of marines fighting zombies, what kinda objectives would you have in the city.. |
| 18:09.25 | depthsofchaos | kill the zombie overmind :o |
| 18:09.36 | Clord | well in my survival like map objective is to kill zerg queen |
| 18:09.39 | Azu | rescue civilians? |
| 18:09.43 | Vailreth | find surviors .... find transport... leave the city...... |
| 18:09.44 | Shadowclaimer | rescue civilians I contemplated |
| 18:09.51 | Shadowclaimer | clear the bridge out might be the other one |
| 18:10.07 | Azu | destroy "zombie hq" :P |
| 18:10.07 | Clord | my survival map.. objective 1... re-group.. objective 2..... hunt down zerg queen without hints |
| 18:10.09 | Shadowclaimer | now how to make civilians work.. |
| 18:10.26 | depthsofchaos | zombies keep them in a cage |
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| 18:10.34 | Shadowclaimer | eh these are eat anything zombies |
| 18:10.41 | Clord | oh and if you shoot zerg queen... it gets angry and start hunt until beaten |
| 18:10.48 | Shadowclaimer | I'm going to seal off certain houses and have random locations civilians can be |
| 18:10.53 | depthsofchaos | then they are stuck under a destructible object surrounded by zombies |
| 18:10.58 | Shadowclaimer | yea basically |
| 18:11.03 | Shadowclaimer | behind a destructible door |
| 18:11.28 | Clord | actual civilian units are in retail version |
| 18:11.33 | Clord | but placeholders works |
| 18:11.34 | Clord | lol |
| 18:12.57 | Clord | also tauren marine will be awesome infected marine |
| 18:13.07 | Clord | mad bull ^^ |
| 18:14.36 | Alpha_vst | civilian is the best sc unit |
| 18:15.15 | Durrean | man i do i have a stupid duck as avatar ergh... |
| 18:15.36 | Clord | I like how models look good even when scaled to be bigger |
| 18:17.04 | Dustin| | Cause they are higher poly count :P |
| 18:18.31 | Clord | plus effects |
| 18:18.35 | Clord | I mean reflections etc |
| 18:19.06 | Vailreth | all of the units i place are wearing crates what the hell? |
| 18:19.41 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/chocolate-rain-concert/. [Cutscene Contest] Chocolate Rain Concert. Tehwildcard (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 18:20.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster devilesk (~devilesk@ool-43518e4d.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 18:20.50 | Vortexx2010 | i have a toggle ability, but when I toggle it, the button goes away and I can't toggle it off. how do I fix this? |
| 18:21.50 | Durrean | well, here is my entry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB42MzvWxMg |
| 18:22.25 | RingBearer | bah stupid intercepters |
| 18:25.03 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:25.18 | Vailreth | hwo did you create a toggleable ability? |
| 18:26.04 | Clord | I made 10x sized hydralisk and named it megalisk.. 1000HP... 10 per sec regen... 50 damage per melee attack... XD |
| 18:26.09 | Clord | 0.50 movement speed :) |
| 18:26.18 | RingBearer | Pffttt |
| 18:26.22 | RingBearer | I'm working on Bosslossus |
| 18:27.35 | RingBearer | a 2x sized Colossus that will be able to summon more colossus, fire seeker many seeker drones at air units, make a giant guardian shield, and launch intercepters |
| 18:27.35 | Clord | anyways... this thing is meant to be avoided... so if players fortify themeselves to some place and it happens to wander in |
| 18:27.36 | Clord | gg |
| 18:27.47 | depthsofchaos | I placed a marauder on my map :P i win |
| 18:28.26 | RingBearer | Launching intercepters is proving troublesome... Tempted to take the easy route and just attach and hide a carrier to it |
| 18:28.45 | Clord | I make few random mega monsters to wander in map |
| 18:28.57 | RingBearer | Tri Monster Hunters? |
| 18:29.34 | Clord | now this gives perspective.. character has 10 levels... typical attack damage is 1 per attack |
| 18:29.36 | Clord | and +1 per level |
| 18:29.42 | Clord | now that thing has 1000HP |
| 18:31.54 | Clord | I run to naming problem lol |
| 18:32.01 | Clord | zergling... megalisk... hydralisk.. megalisk |
| 18:32.30 | RingBearer | Gigalisk - Telsa based zerg |
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| 18:32.49 | depthsofchaos | you should make it multi and the monster human controlled :p |
| 18:32.58 | depthsofchaos | i want to crush humans |
| 18:33.22 | RingBearer | What was the game... The one with the giant monster while a fantasy based army and a sci fi based army fought each other |
| 18:33.33 | RingBearer | And you could play the giant Monster in Multiplayuer |
| 18:33.41 | Vailreth | back when thor was big it should have been able to kill zerglings by walking on them |
| 18:34.05 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 18:34.19 | Vailreth | Giants Citizen Kabuto i think |
| 18:34.23 | RingBearer | Thats it |
| 18:34.28 | depthsofchaos | that was power rangers |
| 18:36.19 | Clord | that game was very good |
| 18:36.28 | Clord | it just got some design mistakes and bugs |
| 18:36.38 | Clord | like how you could scale almost anything up |
| 18:36.46 | Clord | breaking level design |
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| 18:38.03 | Clord | even if monster player would need to find targets without minimap.. once finds them... what terran players gonna do? XD |
| 18:38.13 | Clord | well run obviously but oh well |
| 18:38.14 | Mojache | Skizot |
| 18:38.47 | depthsofchaos | there could be 2 teams each with a monster |
| 18:38.58 | Grum | Durrean: cute :D |
| 18:40.16 | Clord | lol |
| 18:40.27 | vjeux | Vailreth: you should enter the contest, it's really for fun :) |
| 18:40.34 | Mojache | Anyone that know 3Dmax at all know what the black areas mean and how exactly you go about repairing the,? |
| 18:40.35 | Mojache | http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/public/153222/blackareas.jpg |
| 18:40.38 | Mojache | for reference |
| 18:40.40 | Skizot | MOJOJOJO |
| 18:41.06 | Vailreth | i am thinking of it actually if i could just get the medivacs to load units properly .. |
| 18:41.14 | Skizot | whatchoo need Mojache |
| 18:41.18 | Mojache | http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/public/153222/blackareas.jpg |
| 18:41.30 | Mojache | Black areas, you know what causes them? |
| 18:42.32 | depthsofchaos | vjeux can there be multiple entries in the contest ? |
| 18:42.38 | vjeux | sure |
| 18:43.49 | Vailreth | cool i may do a series |
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| 18:47.58 | Skizot | are they textured? |
| 18:48.26 | Skizot | also, could be collision |
| 18:48.46 | Xan | looks like the ligthning |
| 18:49.22 | ubdead | yea it looks like a lightmap issue |
| 18:49.41 | ubdead | is there a way to set it to full bright |
| 18:49.45 | ubdead | omnilight |
| 18:49.47 | Skizot | well if there's a SECOND model under it for collision... |
| 18:49.50 | ubdead | whatever it's called |
| 18:49.56 | Clord | eureka! |
| 18:50.45 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/doom-repercussions-evil/. DOOM: Repercussions of Evil [Cutscene Contest]. devilesk (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 18:51.45 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know which event plays the unit movement?:o i want it to stand still always |
| 18:51.53 | Mojache | I think the 3Dmax/model conversion part might be too much for me to undertake |
| 18:53.03 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/station-theta-talos/. Station Theta Talos. WontonST (Manager/Author), MonkeysInSpace (Author), swordmas (Artist). Approved by xhatix. |
| 18:54.18 | Mojache | Skizot how do I "use" the script once its installed |
| 18:54.23 | Mojache | should it just come up under Export? |
| 18:56.42 | Bifuu | yes!!!! i win!!! |
| 18:56.52 | Bifuu | Most projects on Mpaster! woooooo! xD |
| 18:59.02 | RingBearer | autocast... how does one make it automaticly turn on >.< |
| 18:59.49 | Skizot | you click the hammer |
| 18:59.53 | Skizot | then maxscripts |
| 18:59.57 | Skizot | then run script |
| 19:00.04 | Skizot | the select the export script |
| 19:00.27 | Mojache | Yeah I got an error, this is just too much for me |
| 19:00.39 | Mojache | I don't have the time to completely learn 3Dmax :( |
| 19:00.44 | Skizot | lol |
| 19:00.56 | Skizot | when i get home i will convert a few for you |
| 19:01.01 | Skizot | preferably buildings |
| 19:01.10 | Mojache | I just want to do a couple buildings |
| 19:01.22 | Skizot | send me a zip with the 3ds files and the textures |
| 19:01.30 | Skizot | going skiing atm |
| 19:01.32 | Mojache | kk |
| 19:01.36 | Mojache | skiing? |
| 19:01.39 | Mojache | the fuck lol |
| 19:01.40 | Mojache | its may |
| 19:01.42 | SKIzot | yeah |
| 19:01.44 | Mojache | MAY |
| 19:01.45 | SKIzot | water skiing |
| 19:01.47 | Mojache | ahh |
| 19:01.53 | SKIzot | florida |
| 19:01.55 | SKIzot | lol |
| 19:02.33 | WaterSki_zot | that better? |
| 19:02.36 | `228zip | >.> |
| 19:02.45 | WaterSki_zot | bbiab |
| 19:03.04 | RingBearer | gah... turn stupid autocast on interceptors.... |
| 19:03.23 | `228zip | Actually the interceptor autocast |
| 19:03.28 | `228zip | Should be on every building |
| 19:03.33 | `228zip | For every unit |
| 19:03.39 | `228zip | DoW ONE had it |
| 19:03.43 | `228zip | Why not SC2 ? |
| 19:04.01 | RingBearer | because you'll look back at your base and see 70 probes |
| 19:04.38 | `228zip | Noobs will still be noobs, you can't change that |
| 19:04.51 | RingBearer | I want to turn autocast on by default for intercepters |
| 19:05.13 | RingBearer | Its not under the Carrier - Hanger ability... which is where it is turned on by default for medivak's heal |
| 19:06.00 | RingBearer | aha found it |
| 19:06.42 | RingBearer | Under Ability Commands - Arm Magazine |
| 19:06.52 | RingBearer | Which is under Info + |
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| 19:11.36 | Triceron | autocast make units would be awesome for SC2, esp for macro-suck players like me |
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| 19:13.03 | RingBearer | I want to write a trigger... that will automaticly make my buildings produce units if my minerals/gas goes above 1000 |
| 19:13.33 | RingBearer | Actually... |
| 19:13.39 | RingBearer | Just write a trigger to do the macro |
| 19:13.43 | RingBearer | and I'll micro my units |
| 19:17.48 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tanks-war/ |
| 19:17.52 | vjeux | this maps looks funny |
| 19:18.25 | Azu | :o |
| 19:18.55 | Sixen | ;p |
| 19:23.33 | Lyrrad | Ringbearer - You can probably do all that using the data editor without the need of triggers |
| 19:24.07 | RingBearer | I was more joking around.. as if implying I wanted to do this for melee |
| 19:24.54 | Lyrrad | ah, damn, cause I want it, I always forget to spend my resources |
| 19:25.01 | RingBearer | Yeah |
| 19:25.16 | RingBearer | I know if I have that much unspent that I am doing it wrong |
| 19:26.01 | Lyrrad | I go into every game and say to myself ok, THIS time I m going to spend my resources better, and then I look at my resources and its "DAMN, 2000 minerals" |
| 19:31.22 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/experimental-material/. Experimental Material. eviltikiman (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
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| 19:32.41 | Azu | someone host a custom map ;< (eu preferably) |
| 19:33.17 | Zaratulius | is there a way to add aditional type of damage to existing melee/ranged/spell/splash? |
| 19:33.38 | RingBearer | hmm... how to randomly select 5 units from a unit group, repeats allowed |
| 19:34.33 | RingBearer | ah |
| 19:35.10 | Clord | I made my amateurish trying to be funny short cinematic |
| 19:35.39 | Lyrrad | Some of the cinimatics for the contest are really impressive |
| 19:35.49 | Azu | depthsofchaos is best imo ;) |
| 19:36.00 | Azu | hi's "cutscene" that is |
| 19:36.12 | Lyrrad | which one is his? |
| 19:36.24 | Azu | 300 |
| 19:36.57 | Lyrrad | ah, yes |
| 19:38.01 | Lyrrad | I think wasteland partol might be my fav so far, tho the sound on it is pretty quiet |
| 19:39.55 | Lyrrad | and the turn out for the contest looks like its gonna be pretty good too |
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| 19:41.41 | RingBearer | oh wow... there is a pick random unit from unit group trigger |
| 19:41.47 | RingBearer | Blizzard thinks of everything =D |
| 19:42.55 | Lyrrad | Is there a beverage dispenser in Galaxy Edit? |
| 19:43.28 | RingBearer | I bet you could make one via the UI |
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| 19:43.39 | RingBearer | But good point |
| 19:43.43 | RingBearer | I want my Nuka-cola |
| 19:43.58 | Lyrrad | Oh, or a way to program my Marine Action figure from sc1 to fetch me a drink |
| 19:44.12 | RingBearer | oh you have one of those? |
| 19:44.18 | RingBearer | I have one too :) |
| 19:44.30 | RingBearer | My zealot can't stand up through :( |
| 19:44.38 | Lyrrad | I got mine as a special offer on the BE expansion |
| 19:44.48 | Lyrrad | I have a Hydra aroud somewhere too |
| 19:45.01 | RingBearer | I went and dug them out like a month ago due to SC |
| 19:45.06 | Lyrrad | No zealot, just a marine and Hydra |
| 19:45.21 | Lyrrad | Yeah, I am trying to remember where my Hydra is |
| 19:45.30 | Lyrrad | was my favorite unit in sc1 |
| 19:45.43 | rrowland | Applying the camera for every player every 0.0 seconds shouldn't cause any network lag at all... right? |
| 19:46.02 | RingBearer | why not just force the camera to pan the unit |
| 19:46.11 | RingBearer | and disable camera movement |
| 19:46.17 | rrowland | I'm trying to keep it at a certain zoom distance |
| 19:46.39 | RingBearer | Its possible to prevent the player from moving the caerma |
| 19:46.52 | rrowland | I want them to move the camera around |
| 19:47.42 | Hati | RingBearer: lock camera |
| 19:47.42 | Hati | input |
| 19:47.42 | rrowland | And even use their mousewheel |
| 19:47.43 | RingBearer | .. but every 0.0 seconds |
| 19:47.43 | rrowland | I just want it to always be a certain distance from the ground |
| 19:47.43 | rrowland | For a larger view area |
| 19:47.46 | RingBearer | Ah |
| 19:48.10 | rrowland | If I don't make it re-apply every 0.0 seconds it screws up when they hit the mouse wheel |
| 19:48.19 | vjeux | if you want to get an insight of the future skin of mapster, http://www.sc2mapster.com/themes/profet/switch/ click the switch button (top right of the page) |
| 19:50.17 | Hati | Eros lorem libero feugiat libero hymenaeos, parturient mollis cum sociis dignissim, viverra phasellus ante taciti, ante eu ac consequat eleifend dapibus, pellentesque. |
| 19:50.56 | vjeux | go to the main page |
| 19:51.03 | vjeux | and see the awesomness! |
| 19:51.18 | vjeux | it's still pretty much work in progress |
| 19:51.24 | vjeux | but starts looking really great |
| 19:52.07 | vjeux | (use this to get back to the original skin http://www.sc2mapster.com/themes/sc2mapster/switch/ ) |
| 19:54.43 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/simple-fast-defense/. Simple Fast Hero Defense. PyroStormer (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:55.14 | RingBearer | lol Seeker Brrage |
| 19:58.25 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/laborian-conquest-08/. laborian conquest. IMindI (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
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| 19:59.53 | Bifuu | vjeux: what happened to that other one? |
| 20:00.24 | vjeux | he didn't log back on msn since he did the screenshot |
| 20:00.32 | Bifuu | o |
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| 20:00.37 | Bifuu | lame |
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| 20:01.40 | Pinworm45 | Does anyone happen to know if the cinematic contest limit of 1 minute includes sc2mapster intros? For example my video is 1:05 of starcraft 2 cutscene then like 8 seconds of sc2mapster logo. Is that acceptable? |
| 20:01.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ignorance (~daviddavi@ip98-164-217-125.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 20:01.48 | vjeux | and ... the design was not possible to implement on mapster |
| 20:01.51 | Ignorance | Hello everybody! |
| 20:01.57 | rrowland | hello |
| 20:02.07 | vjeux | Pinworm45: nop, the intro sc2mapster is out of the 1min |
| 20:02.19 | Pinworm45 | darn alright |
| 20:02.31 | vjeux | so you're good :) |
| 20:02.31 | Ignorance | My new engine is going along nicely. I've got it well past the state the old one was in. :) |
| 20:02.35 | vjeux | nice |
| 20:02.38 | Ignorance | It's almost 3d. ;) |
| 20:03.53 | rrowland | idra vs nony if anybody follows it |
| 20:03.56 | rrowland | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hdstarcraft |
| 20:05.20 | RingBearer | gah why does my energy cost = 50 + 5000% |
| 20:05.38 | Azu | rrowland :O |
| 20:05.47 | rrowland | sup |
| 20:05.52 | Azu | off air? :O |
| 20:06.02 | rrowland | No I'm watching it |
| 20:06.06 | rrowland | It's live with 13k viewers |
| 20:06.08 | Azu | its off air for me :s |
| 20:06.15 | rrowland | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hdstarcraft |
| 20:06.39 | Azu | http://i39.tinypic.com/nq1auo.jpg |
| 20:06.40 | vjeux | omg 13k users! |
| 20:06.48 | rrowland | yeah |
| 20:06.52 | rrowland | nony vs idra bo5 |
| 20:06.53 | rrowland | is epic |
| 20:07.00 | RingBearer | 1 + 1000% = 11 ? |
| 20:07.02 | Azu | does not work for me :< |
| 20:07.03 | `228zip | omg I forgot about that |
| 20:07.06 | RingBearer | I should be able to ast that |
| 20:07.08 | `228zip | What round are they on ? |
| 20:07.19 | Azu | lol |
| 20:07.21 | rrowland | started first game like 5 minutes ago |
| 20:07.28 | Azu | had to use beta "layout" |
| 20:08.58 | `228zip | gah, stupid thing won't load |
| 20:09.54 | `228zip | It's an emergency |
| 20:10.00 | `228zip | Internet Explorer, I choose you! |
| 20:10.00 | RingBearer | Stop telling me I don't have enough energy |
| 20:10.12 | rrowland | Idra hasn't built any roaches |
| 20:10.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:10.15 | rrowland | Or even a roach den |
| 20:10.18 | rrowland | :o |
| 20:10.37 | `228zip | unusual |
| 20:11.25 | `228zip | It's even worse with IE |
| 20:11.28 | `228zip | I only have sound |
| 20:12.02 | Azu | hydras <3 |
| 20:12.08 | FrozenFirebat | wow Idra won |
| 20:12.17 | rrowland | Without roaches |
| 20:12.17 | rrowland | lol |
| 20:12.20 | Azu | :P |
| 20:12.32 | `228zip | I like roaches =/ |
| 20:12.37 | FrozenFirebat | I was waiting for an epic tantrum =( |
| 20:13.03 | rrowland | lol |
| 20:13.06 | `228zip | looks in his dictionnary for "tantrum". |
| 20:13.28 | `228zip | Oh, you mean from Idra ? |
| 20:13.33 | FrozenFirebat | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantrum |
| 20:13.37 | FrozenFirebat | yeah |
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| 20:17.58 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hn5vhSw1-c |
| 20:18.14 | Clord | subtitles are not shown in video itself |
| 20:18.15 | Clord | lol |
| 20:18.32 | ubdead | does anybody know what MakePrecursor does? |
| 20:18.49 | ubdead | (i.e. on the MULE calldown effect) |
| 20:19.00 | Ignorance | Woohoo! |
| 20:19.06 | Ignorance | I can't go up cliffs. :D |
| 20:19.10 | FrozenFirebat | So I updated my text dialog to include bank support... so now It will search up to 8 "Login" Bank Files with your Name / Password Info. |
| 20:19.11 | Ignorance | but I can go down them. |
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| 20:20.56 | ubdead | sounds like a validator to me ignorance? |
| 20:21.43 | Ignorance | ubdead, I'm talking physics. |
| 20:21.54 | Ignorance | It means my 3d physics is working. :) |
| 20:22.09 | ubdead | ohh sweet |
| 20:22.43 | ubdead | i fear that the physics will lag online :( |
| 20:22.57 | Ignorance | yeah, whatever |
| 20:22.59 | Ignorance | We'll see. |
| 20:24.51 | `228zip | I hate forcefields |
| 20:25.23 | Ignorance | You would. |
| 20:25.28 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hn5vhSw1-c <- this is my contest entry.... I attached map to post ^^ |
| 20:25.54 | Clord | subtitles are unreadable quality in it |
| 20:26.38 | ubdead | btw, is there a way to make a 0.5 footprint? |
| 20:26.43 | ubdead | 0.5x0.5 |
| 20:27.03 | Azu | lols |
| 20:27.09 | Azu | ~17k viewers atm |
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| 20:28.01 | IcE^ | yea.. still rising =) |
| 20:28.07 | ubdead | lol Clord |
| 20:28.21 | Azu | i once had 35viewers while streaming sc2 vs ai >< |
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| 20:31.21 | Sky_ | Hello , how i can add custom resources to my map? |
| 20:33.54 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/just-another-mining-day-cutscene/. Just Another Mining Day (Cutscene Contest). Clord (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 20:33.56 | Clord | hehe... ubdead ^^ |
| 20:34.16 | ubdead | didnt know how to check out the subtitles |
| 20:34.24 | ubdead | so didnt understand a lot of it |
| 20:34.24 | ubdead | :D |
| 20:34.46 | Clord | that's why you need.. THE MAP ;) |
| 20:34.52 | Clord | so you can read them well |
| 20:34.53 | Clord | lol |
| 20:35.31 | Clord | I got inspired from melee etc |
| 20:35.44 | Clord | changeling sabotages orbital command to nuke itself |
| 20:36.12 | ubdead | mnn i told some guy how to stop friendly units from being pushable |
| 20:36.16 | ubdead | but i forgot how |
| 20:36.24 | Durrean | hmm clord the subtitles arent showing up in the video |
| 20:36.43 | Clord | bottom left |
| 20:36.45 | HP-X|Arthas | :( |
| 20:36.49 | HP-X|Arthas | Dio is dead :'( |
| 20:36.51 | Clord | yeah video it is bad ^^ |
| 20:36.56 | Durrean | you need to fix it. believe me no one will download the map. Not showing up for me |
| 20:37.17 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.ronniejamesdio.com/ |
| 20:37.19 | Durrean | (i go to the youtube page and fullscreen the video) |
| 20:37.20 | Clord | that youtube bar kinda destroys it |
| 20:37.27 | Clord | and other stuff |
| 20:37.28 | Tehwildcard | Finally youtube done failing, check out my entry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnPZTmbgIQ |
| 20:37.33 | Clord | yet emblem it shows somewhat |
| 20:37.36 | Clord | yet |
| 20:38.07 | Durrean | Tehwildcard, whats that for a song? Oo |
| 20:38.52 | ubdead | lolwat TehWildcard |
| 20:38.59 | Clord | time to use youtube tag ^^ |
| 20:39.20 | Tehwildcard | lol it was a youtube viral video |
| 20:39.47 | Durrean | yeah reading it on wiki lol |
| 20:40.29 | ubdead | i cant believe you haven't heard chocolate rain before |
| 20:40.39 | Durrean | maybe youtube registered as possible copyrighted music and it needed to be approved? |
| 20:40.57 | Durrean | could be the reason why it take so long |
| 20:40.59 | Azu | gg |
| 20:41.06 | rrowland | lol |
| 20:41.08 | rrowland | pwnt |
| 20:41.11 | Azu | :p |
| 20:41.19 | rrowland | Sucks |
| 20:41.21 | rrowland | I don't like idra |
| 20:41.22 | rrowland | lol |
| 20:41.23 | Clord | it looks like youtube emblem thing what site supports is not compatible with my link |
| 20:41.25 | Azu | :P |
| 20:41.27 | Gohla | 18k viewers :p |
| 20:41.30 | Clord | because it has "-" |
| 20:41.55 | Clord | yet in forum post it works fine |
| 20:41.57 | ubdead | oh idra was playing |
| 20:42.00 | Azu | omg |
| 20:42.03 | Azu | thelittleone |
| 20:42.06 | Azu | me wants |
| 20:42.07 | Azu | that match |
| 20:42.16 | FrozenFirebat | lol |
| 20:42.22 | FrozenFirebat | Nony Vs TLO will be interesting |
| 20:42.45 | ubdead | who's ronniejamesdio btw lol |
| 20:42.46 | Azu | tell me when the stream is up (whenever it is :P) |
| 20:42.46 | rrowland | tlo is fun to watch |
| 20:42.51 | Azu | lol |
| 20:42.57 | Azu | dio died today |
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| 20:43.18 | Triceron | when is the next match |
| 20:43.25 | ubdead | well my condolenses |
| 20:43.27 | `228zip | Soon |
| 20:43.42 | Azu | i didnt know him lols :p |
| 20:43.43 | `228zip | Still don't know who Dio is =/ |
| 20:43.53 | Azu | singer |
| 20:43.55 | Azu | like |
| 20:43.57 | Azu | super famous |
| 20:44.10 | ubdead | oh |
| 20:44.21 | Clord | damn drug addicts |
| 20:44.26 | Clord | and now I mean much worser than beer |
| 20:44.31 | Azu | :p |
| 20:44.33 | ubdead | true |
| 20:44.39 | Clord | no wonder why they go down one after another... those super famous people |
| 20:44.48 | ubdead | they need to EAT lol |
| 20:44.48 | Durrean | i have the feeling that there will be 50+ entries :/ |
| 20:44.52 | ubdead | skinny ass models |
| 20:45.15 | Clord | lol when I typed to chat: eureka!... it meant I got idea for cinematic entry |
| 20:45.16 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:45.27 | ubdead | lol wow that was fast |
| 20:46.04 | Clord | I plan in my head... executing what I have planned is faster procees |
| 20:46.08 | Clord | and then some tuning |
| 20:46.09 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:46.24 | Triceron | when's the next sc2 match? |
| 20:46.35 | Gohla | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118879 |
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| 20:46.58 | Galois-evariste | The map Turret Defense 2010 is released!!! http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/turret-defense-2010-final/files/1-turret-defense-2010-final/ |
| 20:47.15 | Clord | note how that terran base completely lacks anti air like typical terran base who believes their superior chokepoint race is best in the world |
| 20:47.17 | Clord | =) |
| 20:47.41 | ubdead | lol |
| 20:47.45 | ubdead | deep |
| 20:47.52 | Azu | Galois-evariste localized? |
| 20:47.57 | Azu | for eu that is |
| 20:48.10 | Galois-evariste | I don't know how to do that so unfortunately its probably not |
| 20:48.15 | Galois-evariste | but i'm willing to do it! |
| 20:48.20 | Galois-evariste | if you can walk me through the process |
| 20:48.26 | Azu | i dno how to >< |
| 20:48.33 | ubdead | there's a great post on the sc2mapster.com forum |
| 20:48.44 | ubdead | or maybe it's an announcement, i forgot |
| 20:49.42 | Azu | when it is localized, any eu wanna play? |
| 20:50.02 | `228zip | Well |
| 20:50.15 | `228zip | Time to fix that damn latency |
| 20:50.50 | HP-X|Arthas | Azu: yeah |
| 20:50.51 | HP-X|Arthas | posted link |
| 20:50.58 | HP-X|Arthas | got ignored by these insensitive clods |
| 20:51.05 | Azu | waht? |
| 20:51.13 | HP-X|Arthas | dont know who dio is? |
| 20:51.23 | HP-X|Arthas | `228zip: im disappoint |
| 20:51.24 | Azu | i do |
| 20:51.26 | Azu | ah |
| 20:52.17 | Ignorance | mmm given two perpendicular vectors which determine the slope (X-Z and Y-Z), I need to find the slope for an arbitrary angle between them. :O Cos(X-Z)*Cos(theta) + Cos(X-Y)*Sin(theta) is my current thinking. |
| 20:52.32 | `228zip | I'm looking at wikipedia right now |
| 20:52.34 | Azu | depthsofchaos your "300" remake has gotten 5.5k+ views atm :D |
| 20:52.47 | `228zip | Well I know a few of his songs but that's not really my type of music |
| 20:52.49 | ubdead | link plox :D |
| 20:52.53 | `228zip | And again, too young for that |
| 20:52.54 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/deadcraft-multithreading-dodge-nuke-cut-scene/ |
| 20:52.56 | HP-X|Arthas | www.ronniejamesdio.com |
| 20:52.57 | Azu | ubdead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7WsypO9-0U |
| 20:52.57 | Ignorance | I need to make it so I have no impulse if the angle is greater than 45 degrees, since banelings shouldn't be climbing up cliffs. >_> |
| 20:53.32 | depthsofchaos | yeah,i posted it on teamliquid :o |
| 20:54.12 | ubdead | holy shit well done depth! |
| 20:54.19 | `228zip | Hahaha |
| 20:54.23 | depthsofchaos | thx |
| 20:55.05 | Azu | "The contest is still running and so far we've got about 10 submissions. However not all the participants have good enough computers to record their cinematics. If you have some time to fraps a map or two, it would be really awesome!" |
| 20:55.09 | Azu | just send em to me :p |
| 20:55.27 | `228zip | I'd have to say |
| 20:55.36 | `228zip | A camera closer to the troops |
| 20:55.39 | `228zip | Might have been better |
| 20:56.04 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/turret-defense-2010-final/. Turret Defense 2010 -Final-. Galois1 (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 20:56.09 | Galois-evariste | SUP |
| 20:56.13 | Galois-evariste | WOOOOOO |
| 20:56.19 | Galois-evariste | time to pop my last bottle of wine |
| 20:56.36 | depthsofchaos | you mean the last scene? well yeah i wanted to show the queen as well :o |
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| 20:57.15 | Azu-away | nice dc |
| 20:57.37 | depthsofchaos | hehe rly cool lightin in this chocolate rain vid :o |
| 20:57.46 | Tehwildcard | thanks :P |
| 20:58.14 | depthsofchaos | i thought at first the boom was some group of too excited banelings xD |
| 20:58.36 | `228zip | I found it too short actually =( |
| 20:58.37 | Tehwildcard | yeah I was going to make a full story of the singer getting sniped and everything |
| 20:58.40 | Tehwildcard | but I had like 10secs left |
| 20:58.46 | Tehwildcard | Well it has to be 1min long :P |
| 20:58.47 | `228zip | Oh I forgot the 1min limit! |
| 20:59.04 | Tehwildcard | I had the camera jumps a lot better too |
| 20:59.13 | Tehwildcard | but when I went to make the video I was already like 20secs over |
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| 21:00.15 | depthsofchaos | was it only me having problems with between cmaera transitions? |
| 21:00.36 | depthsofchaos | i mean the movement isnt smooth |
| 21:00.48 | depthsofchaos | if you jump right after one finishes |
| 21:01.03 | Tehwildcard | hm |
| 21:01.07 | Tehwildcard | mine was pretty smooth |
| 21:01.13 | Tehwildcard | are you doing pan? |
| 21:01.21 | Tehwildcard | I just used apply camera objects |
| 21:01.28 | Tehwildcard | and wait commands |
| 21:01.30 | depthsofchaos | me too |
| 21:01.34 | Durrean | apply the new one before the old has reached its destination |
| 21:02.12 | Tehwildcard | that may be it, I did if the pan was over 5secs I would do a wait command right after for 5.5 |
| 21:02.13 | depthsofchaos | yeah thats what i did at last but it seems quite a random solution |
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| 21:03.20 | depthsofchaos | like in other games you could make cool curves n stuff |
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| 21:10.23 | Milkakuh02 | Hi Guys. Got a Problem here with Timer and Timer Window. Im creating a timer Window for my Timer and run the Timer. As soon as the Timer expires i do some Action and want to hide the Timer Window, but this wont work. Is this just bugged, any ideas? |
| 21:10.51 | Milkakuh02 | or is it just me being foolish. problem solved |
| 21:16.45 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 21:19.09 | RingBearer | Question: Can all of the protoss units get that cool warp in animation? |
| 21:19.26 | RingBearer | I want it for my colossus |
| 21:19.51 | RingBearer | Or is that a specific animation they have for the zealots and stuff |
| 21:21.32 | depthsofchaos | if you scale up the animation it will be ok |
| 21:21.41 | Galois-evariste | ANNOUNCEMENT: Turret Defense 2010 -Final- is Localized!!! Have fun, Euros |
| 21:21.45 | Galois-evariste | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/turret-defense-2010-final/ |
| 21:22.01 | depthsofchaos | i warped in immortal an it seemed to scale by itself |
| 21:22.38 | RingBearer | I tried it so far, and all it does is instantly drop the colossus where I click |
| 21:22.54 | depthsofchaos | theres a field : model(build) |
| 21:23.00 | depthsofchaos | you gota put it there |
| 21:23.18 | depthsofchaos | and give it warpable ability |
| 21:24.20 | depthsofchaos | and i think it needs a warping in behaviour too :o |
| 21:25.08 | RingBearer | No colossus warp in model :( |
| 21:25.33 | depthsofchaos | try the zealot |
| 21:25.39 | Azu | use zealots warpin model? |
| 21:25.48 | Azu | and make it bigger or something like that |
| 21:26.05 | RingBearer | Will look alittle funny how it turns from a zealot to a colossus |
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| 21:26.34 | Azu | then dont use a zealot? :P |
| 21:26.39 | RingBearer | Blizzard!? Why do you not think of everything!?!? |
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| 21:26.55 | depthsofchaos | well on my pc theres no difference |
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| 21:27.07 | depthsofchaos | in warpins |
| 21:27.09 | RingBearer | Problem is that colossus are pretty big |
| 21:27.44 | RingBearer | hmm...... I wonder.... Mother ship recall effect? must test |
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| 21:30.26 | Azu | [youtube] [/youtube] on sc2mapster forums? |
| 21:30.39 | vjeux | <<youtube id>> |
| 21:30.43 | Grum | <<youtube id>> |
| 21:30.55 | Azu | the woejf894few ? |
| 21:33.35 | Azu | ill take that as a no |
| 21:35.55 | Ignorance | Is there any way to obtain slope other than by calculating it based on worldheight? |
| 21:37.26 | Grum | no |
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| 21:42.38 | Tehwildcard | JeffQ on here? |
| 21:42.55 | Tehwildcard | under a different name ^? |
| 21:46.11 | Azu | anyone happens to have a us sc2 beta key left? :P |
| 21:47.28 | Xan | beta keys arent area specific, the localization you get depend on your billing adress |
| 21:48.07 | Azu | y |
| 21:48.09 | Xan | so if you are EU you wont get to play in US |
| 21:48.13 | Azu | then a key |
| 21:48.18 | Xan | :I) |
| 21:48.21 | Azu | thats why i need another key :P |
| 21:48.52 | Xan | saw the vid btw, nice :) |
| 21:48.57 | Xan | mind if I link to it? |
| 21:49.06 | Azu | why would i? :P |
| 21:49.10 | Azu | go for it :) |
| 21:49.10 | Xan | dunno |
| 21:49.11 | Xan | :P |
| 21:49.14 | Xan | thanks |
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| 22:02.52 | `228zip | Is there a way to get a player's ping ? |
| 22:03.52 | Sixen1 | I doubt it. |
| 22:03.53 | `228zip | No ? =( |
| 22:04.11 | Sixen1 | That's more of a connection info kinda thing. |
| 22:04.18 | Sixen1 | Not something we would be able to access through GE. |
| 22:04.41 | Grum | i'd expect it to be called something with 'latency' but nothing like that in the source |
| 22:04.48 | `228zip | Actually |
| 22:04.55 | `228zip | I think I got one |
| 22:04.55 | Sixen1 | I could be wrong, I never checked. |
| 22:05.03 | `228zip | Nope |
| 22:05.06 | `228zip | I don't |
| 22:05.14 | Sixen1 | I dobut they'd allow access to that stuff. |
| 22:05.22 | Sixen1 | Same with why we can't grab IP's, etc, ;P |
| 22:05.22 | `228zip | I need it |
| 22:05.25 | Sixen1 | OH? |
| 22:05.28 | Sixen1 | Oh?* |
| 22:05.33 | Sixen1 | What for? |
| 22:05.42 | `228zip | Yeah, latency throws off aim in my map |
| 22:05.50 | Sixen1 | =/ |
| 22:06.02 | `228zip | So I need to register the position of the player character |
| 22:06.20 | `228zip | And use that to determine the target angle |
| 22:06.32 | Sixen1 | It'd be under "player" if there's anything. |
| 22:06.39 | `228zip | I guess |
| 22:07.46 | Sixen1 | Oh hrm. |
| 22:07.47 | Sixen1 | native void DataTableSetPing(bool p1, string p2, int p3); native int DataTableGetPing(bool p1, string p2); |
| 22:07.55 | Sixen1 | native void DataTableSetPing(bool p1, string p2, int p3); |
| 22:07.55 | Sixen1 | native int DataTableGetPing(bool p1, string p2); |
| 22:08.04 | Hati | but ... |
| 22:08.15 | Hati | Set ping o.O |
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| 22:08.21 | Sixen1 | Right, ping spoofing. |
| 22:08.34 | Hati | You've killed X, i lag you out :X |
| 22:08.37 | Hati | team raping |
| 22:08.40 | Sixen1 | Might be referring to minimap ping. |
| 22:08.41 | `228zip | I think these are minimap pings |
| 22:08.46 | Hati | well |
| 22:08.48 | Hati | but returning Int |
| 22:08.50 | Hati | for minimap sucks |
| 22:08.54 | Hati | it should be point |
| 22:08.56 | Hati | or x,y |
| 22:08.58 | Hati | or smth :x |
| 22:09.01 | `228zip | same for dialog items |
| 22:09.05 | Grum | are you sure those arent 'map pings'? :D |
| 22:09.11 | Sixen1 | =/ |
| 22:09.19 | Grum | oh right! |
| 22:09.22 | Grum | nevermind ;D |
| 22:09.58 | `228zip | and ping would be a fixed.. I hope |
| 22:10.03 | Clord | I love it when I talk about minimap and people not realize it is that radar thing ^^ |
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| 22:14.23 | Sixen1 | I'll be back |
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| 22:14.43 | Clord | aah.. monday |
| 22:15.13 | Azu | damn |
| 22:15.16 | Azu | school :< |
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| 22:15.46 | `228zip | I hate monday. |
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| 22:17.21 | `228zip | http://homepage.univie.ac.at/christian.cenker/lehre/img/HateMondayGarfield.jpg |
| 22:18.14 | Hati | österreicher! |
| 22:19.05 | Azu | pfft |
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| 22:20.31 | `228zip | What ? |
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| 22:21.17 | Valaraukador | It seems no one can load my cinematic map http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/wasteland-patrol/... They get black screens when they try to load it. Can anyone assist me in the debugging of this issue? |
| 22:21.32 | ShadowTiger | can you load it? |
| 22:21.37 | Valaraukador | yeah |
| 22:21.38 | Valaraukador | I have no issues |
| 22:21.49 | rrowland | You might have localized resources |
| 22:21.52 | Valaraukador | I have a feeling it's due to the sound file I use |
| 22:21.52 | rrowland | or something |
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| 22:22.14 | ShadowTiger | what kind of sound file is it? |
| 22:22.22 | Valaraukador | it's a 5.36 mb sound clip that I use to "narrate" the scene |
| 22:22.32 | ShadowTiger | mp3? ogg? |
| 22:22.36 | Valaraukador | wav |
| 22:22.55 | ShadowTiger | well you could try converting to ogg |
| 22:23.04 | ShadowTiger | it will reduce your mapsize as well |
| 22:23.07 | `228zip | wav works* |
| 22:23.17 | Valaraukador | ok, I'll give it a shot. |
| 22:23.28 | `228zip | Don't see what the problem with it would be |
| 22:23.54 | ShadowTiger | have you used openAL before? |
| 22:23.55 | Valaraukador | maybe i should turn of the preloader which pre-loads the sound file? |
| 22:24.03 | Valaraukador | nope |
| 22:24.25 | ShadowTiger | you could also try that |
| 22:25.23 | Valaraukador | But I have no idea why it would cause a blank screen rather than a long loading time. |
| 22:26.15 | Clord | it is ideal try to keep map size under control unless it is solo map or popular |
| 22:26.45 | Valaraukador | it's a cinematic map |
| 22:27.12 | Milkakuh02 | for contest i bet :) |
| 22:27.31 | Valaraukador | yarp |
| 22:27.39 | Milkakuh02 | mom |
| 22:27.40 | Hati | Valaraukador: your locale? |
| 22:27.54 | Valaraukador | US |
| 22:28.25 | ShadowTiger | does someone want to make am EU version of my map so that the text doesn't get screwed up |
| 22:28.27 | Valaraukador | I'm trying to get someone who can record it to record it because my computer can't handle it but no one can run the map lol |
| 22:28.49 | Milkakuh02 | valaraukador: forum thesecretarts ? |
| 22:28.58 | Valaraukador | yes |
| 22:29.03 | Milkakuh02 | u stole my idea ^^ |
| 22:29.04 | Hati | ShadowTiger: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/1358-misc-easiest-way-to-localization/ |
| 22:29.12 | Hati | Valaraukador: not working for me either |
| 22:29.14 | Hati | blackscreen |
| 22:29.16 | Hati | enUS sc2 |
| 22:29.27 | ShadowTiger | yeah fine ill do it myself |
| 22:29.49 | Valaraukador | I'll upload it again with the sound preload trigger disabled. |
| 22:30.20 | Valaraukador | actually, let me first test and make sure it wasn't a bug with uploading |
| 22:30.36 | Hati | why are you stopping&starting the music all the time? |
| 22:31.12 | PoC | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ |
| 22:31.19 | PoC | is this a good up to date tutorial? |
| 22:31.36 | Hati | yea |
| 22:31.59 | Clord | at least until blizzard gives up some abilities directly to duplicate... |
| 22:32.00 | Clord | lol |
| 22:32.10 | Clord | I mean for hero stuff |
| 22:33.12 | Valaraukador | who me? |
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| 22:34.02 | Valaraukador | +Hati: do you mean me starting and stopping music? |
| 22:34.18 | Hati | yea |
| 22:34.52 | Valaraukador | I stop ingame music repeatedly because I can't figure out a way for it to stop permanently so that all you hear is the music from the imported file |
| 22:35.22 | Valaraukador | stop sound channel doesn't stop it permanently in my experience. |
| 22:35.38 | ShadowTiger | just remove the game music from the player's racef |
| 22:35.41 | ShadowTiger | in the data editor |
| 22:35.47 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know a way to create lgith source?:o |
| 22:35.52 | depthsofchaos | light* |
| 22:36.58 | Azu-zzz | http://i39.tinypic.com/16m5f2g.jpg (y) |
| 22:37.04 | Valaraukador | ok, I'm uploading the updated map file with the preloader disabled. Here to hoping that it works and the audio is synced correctly |
| 22:37.40 | Valaraukador | ok, loaded |
| 22:38.40 | Hati | still not working :) |
| 22:39.17 | Valaraukador | gah |
| 22:39.32 | Valaraukador | now to convert to file to OGG |
| 22:39.54 | Hati | well |
| 22:39.57 | Hati | it's kind asimple |
| 22:39.59 | Hati | your map is black |
| 22:40.06 | Hati | you have no light |
| 22:40.07 | Hati | no sun |
| 22:40.10 | Hati | your planet is dead |
| 22:40.14 | Hati | call it however you like :X |
| 22:40.19 | Valaraukador | god dammit |
| 22:40.23 | Valaraukador | I hate my computer |
| 22:40.29 | Valaraukador | lol |
| 22:40.43 | Valaraukador | I can only run the game on low settings so I don't know how the light is going to look like >_> |
| 22:40.50 | Valaraukador | so I guessed |
| 22:41.01 | Milkakuh02 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.02 | Hati | well |
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| 22:41.38 | Hati | http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7918/nolight.png |
| 22:41.41 | Hati | simple huh |
| 22:41.42 | Valaraukador | I'll just reset it to default lights and change the light colors |
| 22:42.58 | Hati | yea on low it is working |
| 22:42.59 | Valaraukador | so how would I make my map look like a late night, dark, low-visibility color? |
| 22:43.00 | Hati | must be light |
| 22:43.30 | Valaraukador | I'll show you what it looks like on my comp |
| 22:43.44 | Hati | i just did |
| 22:43.48 | Hati | simply set all to low |
| 22:44.09 | Valaraukador | ok |
| 22:44.17 | Hati | well |
| 22:44.26 | Hati | first remove your Xel lightning |
| 22:44.44 | Hati | Xil * |
| 22:45.28 | Valaraukador | done. |
| 22:46.17 | Valaraukador | I'm looking at "Mar Sara Night Test." What does that look like on higher settings? |
| 22:46.29 | Hati | uhm mom |
| 22:46.39 | Bifuu | rrowland: you there? You figure out the requirement display? (I totally forgot about my tutorial page again lol) |
| 22:47.45 | Hati | Valaraukador: not like night |
| 22:48.00 | Hati | Bifuu: what req display? |
| 22:49.29 | Hati | Valaraukador: easily you could try to reduce the Saturation of the colors |
| 22:50.02 | Hati | and brightness |
| 22:50.06 | devilesk | where are the loading screen files located? |
| 22:50.13 | devilesk | like if i wanted to use photoshop to edit them |
| 22:50.14 | Valaraukador | i see |
| 22:50.23 | Asa | Does anyone know much about weapon magazines? |
| 22:51.02 | Bifuu | Hati: He wanted to make the tooltips for requirements look better and was ganna tell him how to if he didnt figure it out already |
| 22:51.18 | Hati | oh ok |
| 22:51.27 | Hati | it's just writing them in there :x aint it? |
| 22:54.10 | Hati | http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9520/screenshot082g.jpg Valaraukador: |
| 22:54.19 | TheLaughingMan | This format is driving me nuts |
| 22:54.58 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ by Bifuu |
| 22:55.42 | Valaraukador | thats pretty good, what settings did you use for that? |
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| 22:55.51 | Hati | just played around with it |
| 22:55.56 | Hati | but looks to bright sometimes |
| 22:56.00 | Hati | so specular or smth to high |
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| 22:57.07 | Cide | hey guys |
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| 22:58.17 | Xenothral | Anyone know of a way to have the calldown call down a marine instead of a mule? |
| 22:58.54 | Hati | change spawn to Marine :x ? |
| 22:58.54 | Xenothral | Would I have to do it through triggers? Or will just editing units in the data viewer be sufficient? |
| 22:59.08 | ShadowTiger | just change the calldown mule effects |
| 22:59.11 | Hati | Effect NameSourceRaceEffect Type |
| 22:59.12 | Hati | Calldown MULE (Create Unit)Liberty.SC2ModTerranCreate Unit |
| 22:59.25 | Hati | i hate how tab is not recognized in irc |
| 22:59.30 | ShadowTiger | okay i tried using apply force to create a knockback effect |
| 22:59.33 | Hati | Valaraukador: look in the query |
| 22:59.35 | ShadowTiger | it doesnt work at all |
| 22:59.53 | Xenothral | I've been trying that, when I call down it just creates a small view of the area where I click and then disappears |
| 23:00.22 | depthsofchaos | force field knocks back |
| 23:00.43 | Hati | depthsofchaos: no it does not |
| 23:00.48 | Hati | vortex uses ForceEffect |
| 23:00.53 | depthsofchaos | then? |
| 23:00.55 | Hati | force field just takes a footprint |
| 23:01.05 | Hati | its not physics there simply a building now :X |
| 23:01.28 | Valaraukador | query? |
| 23:01.29 | depthsofchaos | if you place it on a unit it gets pushed |
| 23:01.34 | Xenothral | It would be quite interesting if it was physics though |
| 23:01.48 | Xenothral | It gets pushed because of the way the engine works though. |
| 23:01.52 | ShadowTiger | yeah I think i will just use an invisible forcefield |
| 23:02.07 | Hati | Valaraukador: private message in irc |
| 23:02.15 | Xenothral | Units can push through each other because of their footprints from what I'm understanding |
| 23:02.21 | ShadowTiger | the main problem with the apply force is that it makes the units idle |
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| 23:02.24 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 23:02.30 | Valaraukador | oh duh, sorry, I don't use irc much |
| 23:02.42 | Xenothral | The fact that the forcefield pushes them is because it uses a building footprint so it pushes units out of it. |
| 23:03.03 | Hati | ShadowTiger: i use a ForceEffect in OTS (operation terran shield) |
| 23:03.06 | Hati | and it works fine :x |
| 23:03.14 | ShadowTiger | but it makes the units idle |
| 23:03.19 | ShadowTiger | bad for a TD |
| 23:03.24 | Hati | hmm |
| 23:03.28 | Hati | why o.O |
| 23:03.35 | Hati | once pushed -> you're done |
| 23:03.42 | ShadowTiger | its because pushing cancels orders |
| 23:04.14 | ShadowTiger | probably because in multiplayer they didnt want vortexed units to remember their orders |
| 23:04.56 | Xenothral | There should be a way to change that though, shouldn't there? |
| 23:05.02 | ShadowTiger | not that I can see |
| 23:05.09 | Cide | hmm so... does the editor expose ID's for stuff like units/abilities like the wc3 editor? |
| 23:05.11 | ShadowTiger | fungal growth also removes orders |
| 23:05.22 | ShadowTiger | and I couldnt see why |
| 23:05.24 | Xenothral | Interesting. |
| 23:05.40 | Hati | well you can't do anyway something like a "punch" pushing a unit 5yards behind fast |
| 23:05.41 | Asa | Anyone familiar with using weapon magazines, like how the nuke requires a nuke to nuke. |
| 23:05.45 | depthsofchaos | where is this force effect located ? |
| 23:05.47 | Hati | ForceEffects are mostly smoothed |
| 23:05.57 | Hati | Effect DataEditor |
| 23:05.58 | ShadowTiger | the id is usually abil/[ability id] or unit/[unit id] |
| 23:06.19 | depthsofchaos | thx |
| 23:06.23 | Cide | ShadowTiger: huh? |
| 23:06.37 | Cide | I have a drone selected in the data editor |
| 23:06.44 | Cide | nothing on the right side matches "id" |
| 23:06.51 | Cide | relevant anyway |
| 23:06.56 | ShadowTiger | the id is when you double click a unit |
| 23:07.31 | Cide | are you talking about a number or a string? |
| 23:07.37 | ShadowTiger | string |
| 23:07.42 | Cide | ah |
| 23:07.46 | Cide | I was talking about a number |
| 23:07.51 | ShadowTiger | everything is stored as a string in SC2 |
| 23:07.52 | ShadowTiger | it seems |
| 23:07.59 | Cide | like in wc3 each ability would have a number |
| 23:08.33 | Cide | well there must be a string<-> id map somewhere |
| 23:08.34 | ShadowTiger | for example, if you want to reference the cooldown of storm, use this Abil,PsiStorm,Cost[0].Cooldown.TimeUse |
| 23:10.20 | Ignorance | Is there some way to temporarily change a unit's movers through triggers? |
| 23:10.26 | Cide | I was under the impression replays use numbers for units so... |
| 23:10.32 | Cide | maybe that's incorrect |
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| 23:10.51 | Skizot | Galois-evariste |
| 23:10.57 | Skizot | you released! |
| 23:10.58 | Skizot | rock on. |
| 23:11.43 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/golem-wars-remastery/. Golem Wars: Remastery. Abion47 (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 23:11.48 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/ht-tower-defence/. H&T Tower defense. helwet (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 23:12.25 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/cut-scene-zerg-v-terran-babbel/. Cut scene: Zerg v Terran. babbel (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 23:15.28 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/random-micro-arena/. Random Micro Arena. payne007 (Manager/Author), avgnerd (Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 23:16.36 | depthsofchaos | i tryed apply for by using create effect at point action but it doesn't work :/ |
| 23:16.47 | depthsofchaos | *apply force |
| 23:17.04 | Valaraukador | Ok, my cinematic is updated and now should be working. (shoutout to Hati for helping me diagnose the problem) |
| 23:19.14 | Xenothral | Anybody know of any custom menu tutorials? |
| 23:23.04 | Hati | wow-southpark episode :P |
| 23:23.31 | Hati | ~seen bifuu |
| 23:23.46 | purl | bifuu is currently on #sc2mapster (6h 55m 53s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 32m 44s, last said: 'Hati: He wanted to make the tooltips for requirements look better and was ganna tell him how to if he didnt figure it out already'. |
| 23:27.33 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/phantom-reborn/. Phantom Reborn. Abion47 (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 23:28.46 | Asa | What are you trying to do Xeno? |
| 23:29.34 | Xenothral | Basically make a menu for upgrading without needing the engineering bay |
| 23:30.04 | Xenothral | Just two buttons for weapons and armour, have it subtract money or what have you and upgrade it |
| 23:30.25 | Asa | Do you want the upgrades in a submenu? |
| 23:30.50 | Xenothral | Like in the command card? |
| 23:32.42 | Asa | Yeah |
| 23:32.59 | Asa | Like do you want a button called upgrades then you push it and the upgrades pop up |
| 23:33.06 | Asa | Or do you just want them on the same card as attack etc |
| 23:33.58 | Xenothral | I was more thinking having an onscreen display pop up when the unit enters a region |
| 23:34.23 | Asa | Oh I was just thinking of the command card, not too familiar with menus |
| 23:34.38 | Xenothral | Ah |
| 23:34.46 | Xenothral | I suppose I could just do it in the command card |
| 23:35.02 | Xenothral | Is it possible to open up the command card when you enter the region? |
| 23:35.25 | Durrean | should be a simple use of the ability |
| 23:36.12 | Galois-evariste | Hurray for Turret Defense! |
| 23:37.59 | Asa | You could try to give them a behavior when they enter which allows an upgrade |
| 23:40.50 | Asa | Hmm I made an ability which does a behavior. But the button disappears after one push, anyone know why that is? |
| 23:46.49 | Valaraukador | Any people who can fraps a video on high settings for a contest available? |
| 23:46.56 | Dustin| | Mojache |
| 23:47.41 | Dustin| | Stop telling people Battle.net is hosting games! |
| 23:52.04 | Asa | I can fraps on ultra fine I think |
| 23:52.47 | Kamakaze | is it possible to have scrolling text on the screen during cinematic mode? |
| 23:53.10 | Tehwildcard | cinematic mode was failing for me so I just hid the UI |
| 23:53.32 | Asa | You could try to attach text to an invisible unit and have it move maybe |
| 23:53.39 | TheSecretArts | Asa: do you want to try frapsing http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/wasteland-patrol/ (including the loading screen) and uploading it to youtube? |
| 23:53.48 | Kamakaze | but cinemetic mode seems to hide all UI type text |
| 23:53.54 | Xan | cinematic mode is fail |
| 23:53.56 | Kamakaze | there is cinematic text but thats rather static |
| 23:53.57 | TheSecretArts | try letterbox |
| 23:54.00 | Xan | disables all trigger sounds |
| 23:54.22 | Asa | What kind of quality? |
| 23:54.32 | Asa | My upload is kinda slow but I could try to do 720 |
| 23:54.57 | TheSecretArts | 720 is fine, any higher is pretty unnecessary. |
| 23:55.13 | TheSecretArts | i wish there was a inbetween 420 and 720 |
| 23:55.30 | Dustin | Im cool with 420 |
| 23:55.35 | TheSecretArts | 480^ |
| 23:55.37 | Dustin | ;) |
| 23:55.38 | TheSecretArts | 480* |
| 23:58.27 | Asa | Is the scene over when the screen goes black? |
| 23:58.50 | TheSecretArts | yeah, the fade out at the 1:00 mark is the end |
| 23:59.08 | Asa | I have it on ultra but the quality seems low for some reason |
| 23:59.32 | rrowland | argh my triggers are up to 1.7mb |
