| 00:00.12 | HeroicPrinny | anyone here know how to change default cliff heights? |
| 00:00.20 | HeroicPrinny | i.e. customize cliff heights |
| 00:01.33 | Reves | err |
| 00:01.40 | SevenSeven | cliff mesh |
| 00:01.50 | SevenSeven | I don't believe it works very well though |
| 00:01.52 | Reves | hmm where was that |
| 00:02.03 | Rugvip | idd, Terrain Cliff Meshes in the data editor |
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| 00:07.22 | Bifuu | wtb beta key for friend pst! xD |
| 00:09.14 | Rugvip | that cliff thing only works if you import new models :< |
| 00:09.14 | nicoli_s | bifuuu: just 1? |
| 00:09.14 | Bifuu | yea |
| 00:09.34 | SevenSeven | ugh |
| 00:09.36 | HeroicPrinny | hmm so cliff meshes huh |
| 00:09.43 | SevenSeven | I went to the dentist to get a filling or something |
| 00:09.47 | SevenSeven | my entire face is numb |
| 00:09.57 | nicoli_s | Bifuu:once i check my email again ill give ya one |
| 00:09.58 | SevenSeven | idiot gave me too much anesthetic =\ |
| 00:10.03 | Bifuu | yays |
| 00:10.13 | Bifuu | Blizz never gave me the double pack =( |
| 00:10.22 | nicoli_s | Hey sholdak: how goes yer xml work? |
| 00:10.33 | SevenSeven | what's a double pack |
| 00:10.56 | nicoli_s | 2 keys in one email |
| 00:10.58 | Bifuu | Blizz sent out to some people an e-mail with 2 invite a friend keys |
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| 00:16.59 | Verr82 | Why do Event Timers (every # seconds) when set to variables, require that the variable is 'Constant'? How do I get around this and allow the timer to be modifiable by variables in game? |
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| 00:17.37 | Ignorance | yoyoyo |
| 00:17.40 | Ignorance | How's everybody doing? |
| 00:17.41 | Bifuu | yo |
| 00:18.31 | Sixen | rawr. |
| 00:20.01 | nicoli_s | pretty good |
| 00:20.05 | nicoli_s | very relaxed |
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| 00:20.29 | Sixen | I still have another final |
| 00:20.30 | Sixen | =| |
| 00:20.34 | Aegis_Runestone | ouch |
| 00:20.54 | mahashiro | I was done last week ;) |
| 00:20.57 | Sixen | Lucky you :P |
| 00:21.03 | Bifuu | i was done in December |
| 00:21.05 | Bifuu | Bitches |
| 00:21.15 | Aegis_Runestone | I was done in April.... >.> |
| 00:24.18 | nicoli_s | im actually looking forward to work this week though, working on some cool shit |
| 00:24.39 | Sixen | :) |
| 00:25.49 | davidcramer | nicoli_s: what kind of cool? :) |
| 00:26.10 | nicoli_s | all sorts of :P |
| 00:26.18 | davidcramer | sc2? :) |
| 00:26.32 | nicoli_s | I wish |
| 00:26.43 | nicoli_s | but ill get to do my first tinkering with cata |
| 00:26.50 | davidcramer | whats a cata |
| 00:26.57 | nicoli_s | wow xp |
| 00:27.01 | davidcramer | oh |
| 00:27.14 | davidcramer | i finally have internet at home so I can build my new map parsing stuff :D |
| 00:27.34 | nicoli_s | im thankful for MWE, i can just rip code from it if we ever need to read maps |
| 00:28.59 | davidcramer | ya hoping this weekend to get my replay parser rebuilt |
| 00:29.21 | nicoli_s | hopefully the didnt change it again in thr latest patch |
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| 00:31.41 | davidcramer | :/ |
| 00:31.50 | davidcramer | im glad nibbits isnt centered around replays |
| 00:33.46 | nicoli_s | yeahman, why the hell did they have to make that format so damn tricky |
| 00:34.26 | davidcramer | get rid of bit stream and i wouldnt care how often they changed it |
| 00:34.32 | davidcramer | but its ridiuclous to drill that down |
| 00:34.36 | davidcramer | unless you're Rick, who disappeared :P |
| 00:36.36 | Vailreth | hmm looks like blizzard is going give units diffrent stats in each mode multi and single player |
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| 00:38.35 | nicoli_s | davidcramer:also i implemented that struct i gave you in mwe andit is correct |
| 00:40.48 | mahashiro | what was the trigger for modifying health? |
| 00:40.50 | mahashiro | set life? |
| 00:43.05 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Commando_Ingame2.jpg |
| 00:43.14 | Triceron | Booyah, got it all working |
| 00:43.20 | Asa | modify unit property I think mah |
| 00:43.26 | Triceron | color, normal, spec, emmisive (glows) |
| 00:44.21 | davidcramer | oh man this irc client owns |
| 00:44.25 | davidcramer | it embedded that image in the chat |
| 00:44.42 | Kamakaze | thats a terrible thing for an irc client to do |
| 00:44.48 | Kamakaze | you could go blind |
| 00:44.49 | Asa | time to get some porn for you david |
| 00:44.51 | davidcramer | thats what you say, until you see it |
| 00:44.58 | Asa | zerg style porn |
| 00:45.38 | Ignorance | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/baneling-busters/ |
| 00:45.41 | Ignorance | Now with Single Player! |
| 00:45.53 | Ignorance | I decided to put in 20 zerglings to kill and a timer. :P |
| 00:46.35 | nicoli_s | davidcramer:you on pc or mac? ive seen an irc client do that for the mac |
| 00:46.51 | davidcramer | Mac, linkinus |
| 00:46.55 | davidcramer | im liking it a lot |
| 00:46.59 | davidcramer | wish i had a sexy irc client like this on windows |
| 00:47.25 | nicoli_s | ive heard good things |
| 00:47.29 | uBdead | hellloooo |
| 00:47.47 | uBdead | single player my map rocked, when i tried it online: not so great lol |
| 00:47.54 | uBdead | back to the drawing board :D |
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| 00:49.25 | davidcramer | wheres a 2player side scroller/top down/anything non mappy? |
| 00:49.33 | uBdead | bifuu: you should be a voice actor |
| 00:50.40 | Ignorance | My time: 196.26 seconds |
| 00:50.40 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 00:50.44 | Bifuu | you know |
| 00:50.47 | Ignorance | For beating Baneling Busters single player. |
| 00:50.51 | Bifuu | before i made Video tutorials |
| 00:50.57 | Bifuu | people made fun of my voice over vent |
| 00:51.01 | davidcramer | lol |
| 00:51.14 | uBdead | well they are jealus of your voice |
| 00:51.31 | Bifuu | lol |
| 00:51.37 | uBdead | i sound like just another random guy |
| 00:51.43 | uBdead | but YOU my man |
| 00:51.46 | NeoDeathXp_ | =O |
| 00:51.46 | Ignorance | You're all jealous of my WASD based movement system. |
| 00:51.49 | Ignorance | :O |
| 00:51.56 | davidcramer | arent there 100 of those now |
| 00:51.56 | Bifuu | lol |
| 00:51.59 | uBdead | you sound like a surfer/darth vader combi |
| 00:52.05 | heysparky | if you were in LA bifuu, I know a guy who directs VO for games |
| 00:52.07 | Ignorance | But mine's like real physics. |
| 00:52.09 | heysparky | :) |
| 00:52.11 | Bifuu | Someone left a comment on one of my videos saying i sounded like Keanu Reves |
| 00:52.19 | uBdead | OMG that's so true |
| 00:52.21 | davidcramer | Ignorance: hows that any different than normal? |
| 00:52.31 | davidcramer | Bifuu: I'm sure they're just all giving you shit :P |
| 00:52.33 | Ignorance | Play the map. Feel the smoothness. |
| 00:52.35 | NeoDeathXp_ | do you know kung fu? |
| 00:52.53 | Bifuu | and another guy said my voice was annoying |
| 00:53.00 | Bifuu | i just told him to gtfo if he didnt like it |
| 00:53.06 | uBdead | rofl |
| 00:53.10 | Ignorance | Though, I do think I should increase the base speed. |
| 00:53.11 | uBdead | well he should gtfo |
| 00:53.14 | Ignorance | It seems a little slow. |
| 00:53.33 | Ignorance | but if there's gonna be 8+ people on the map, a high base movement speed could become a serious problem |
| 00:53.35 | Reves | did some one say my name |
| 00:53.40 | Ignorance | No. |
| 00:53.49 | Ignorance | But someone said mine. ;) |
| 00:54.04 | Reves | OHH it was bifuu |
| 00:54.08 | Bifuu | i said "Keanu reves" |
| 00:54.10 | Bifuu | lol |
| 00:54.16 | Reves | yeah |
| 00:54.24 | Reves | lol |
| 00:54.33 | uBdead | lol win |
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| 00:55.24 | Bifuu | i cant hear the similarity |
| 00:55.39 | FrozenFirebat | lawl Ignorance, your movement engine is just like the one I posted on Mapster, except it's physics is all done in triggers and mine was all done in behaviors |
| 00:55.40 | Bifuu | but ill bbl |
| 00:56.13 | uBdead | whats bbl |
| 00:56.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wtf bbl |
| 00:56.57 | uBdead | ah |
| 00:56.59 | FrozenFirebat | ~wtf wtf |
| 00:57.03 | Ignorance | FrozenFirebat, that's not true. |
| 00:57.05 | uBdead | whats wrong with the good old brb |
| 00:57.17 | Ignorance | You made the Frozen one, right? |
| 00:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | be RIGHT back as compared to be back LATER |
| 00:57.21 | FrozenFirebat | ja |
| 00:57.32 | uBdead | NO-SHIT |
| 00:57.36 | Ignorance | Mine uses physics equations to determine acceleration. Static friction and drag. |
| 00:57.39 | Ignorance | Does yours? :P |
| 00:57.39 | FrozenFirebat | your mechanics slowed down the deceleration and the turning rate |
| 00:58.01 | HeroicPrinny | man editing cliff meshes is a pain |
| 00:58.13 | HeroicPrinny | the custom heights really screw things up |
| 00:58.21 | Ignorance | Doesn't your work by straight acceleration/deceleration? |
| 00:58.28 | Ignorance | I actually couldn't get it to work in a map. :P |
| 00:58.37 | FrozenFirebat | mine has acceleration... not hard too... directional bonus' to to acceleration over time. |
| 00:58.54 | Ignorance | Wait, so yours has acceleration that increases over time? |
| 00:58.59 | uBdead | hates wasd in RTS |
| 00:58.59 | RingBearer | hmm... There really needs to be a UI tutorial... I'm half tempted at just fading in and out images to display a vertical status bar with black bars to shrink the horizontal width of the screen. |
| 00:59.01 | FrozenFirebat | yes |
| 00:59.07 | FrozenFirebat | it'd done by stacking behaviors |
| 00:59.07 | Ignorance | Isn't that...a terrible idea? |
| 00:59.17 | Ignorance | Mine stacks behaviors too. |
| 00:59.17 | FrozenFirebat | not really when it maxes out |
| 00:59.29 | Ignorance | Do you have a map where yours is implemented? |
| 00:59.37 | FrozenFirebat | there is also a map version of it. |
| 00:59.43 | Ignorance | I shall look into this. |
| 01:01.50 | RingBearer | Bah... fading images wouldn't work even if they were transparent... different screen resolutions would react differently... |
| 01:03.31 | Ignorance | Frozen, is your WASD system even normalized? |
| 01:03.36 | Ignorance | That was terrible. :[ |
| 01:03.56 | Ignorance | felt super jerky |
| 01:04.13 | Ignorance | like about the same as the one from top down fighters |
| 01:05.45 | Beider | Ignorance: It's not really a physics system you got though |
| 01:05.45 | heysparky | ciao y'all |
| 01:06.00 | Beider | sure you apply a few things, but the terrain has no actual impact on your movement |
| 01:06.26 | Beider | there seems to be no acceleration or de-acceleration due to going up/down hills |
| 01:06.42 | Beider | and as far as I can see in your calculations you don't take anything about the terrain into account |
| 01:07.00 | Ignorance | That is correct. |
| 01:07.21 | Beider | it's a smooth movement system, but it's a stretch to call it a physics engine or anything of the sort |
| 01:07.31 | Ignorance | Though, I was under the impression that a physics system did not imply any particular level of completeness, rather than realism. :P |
| 01:07.43 | Ignorance | eh, I'll be adding some stuff for going up/down hills soon. |
| 01:08.00 | Beider | well as far as I am considered physics implies that the surrounding terrain has an impact on what happens |
| 01:08.14 | Ignorance | The point is, among WASD based movement systems, it functions the best. :P |
| 01:08.24 | Beider | I mean I could make a unit "jump" by just moving it up in height then back down again at a static rate and call it a physics system, that doesn't make it one |
| 01:08.29 | Ignorance | because it mimics physics |
| 01:08.35 | Beider | depends on the game you want to make |
| 01:08.45 | Beider | It will work well for some, bad for others |
| 01:08.55 | Beider | I could see it working well for low intensity games |
| 01:09.03 | Ignorance | Beider, I would consider it physics if you based the motion of the jump on how a real jump occurs. |
| 01:09.18 | Beider | But for fast paced games like say smash tv clones, you want a quick and responsive movement system |
| 01:09.41 | Ignorance | The only reason it's slow is because of where I set the constants. :P |
| 01:09.55 | Beider | yes but if you speed it up to much it won't be as smooth anymore |
| 01:10.06 | Ignorance | You'd be surprised. Hold on a sec. |
| 01:10.28 | Beider | For some games that kind of movement just doesn't work |
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| 01:10.49 | uBdead | Beider like the Matrix |
| 01:11.31 | uBdead | yea ok that was lame |
| 01:11.32 | uBdead | i agree |
| 01:11.32 | Beider | well |
| 01:11.46 | Beider | The point is that some games you want to run full speed one way then do an instant 180 |
| 01:12.02 | uBdead | makes me think of Super Smash Bro's |
| 01:12.10 | uBdead | and how slow the control got in the cube version |
| 01:12.18 | Beider | Well I like the system you got so far Ignorance, it's looking good and will be neat to see what kind of games you make out of it |
| 01:12.56 | uBdead | games? you think the GE is for games? |
| 01:13.17 | uBdead | it's a physics engine, with ASDW support |
| 01:13.28 | Beider | ^^ |
| 01:13.43 | uBdead | or third person camera emulator |
| 01:13.55 | uBdead | (i think that's all people are doing) |
| 01:14.02 | Beider | I made a tower defence ! |
| 01:14.04 | Beider | ^^ |
| 01:14.12 | Beider | and a fancy UI |
| 01:14.23 | Beider | takes a note that he has to do a UI tutorial soon |
| 01:14.28 | RingBearer | fancy UI?! |
| 01:14.34 | Beider | yep |
| 01:14.36 | Beider | fancy |
| 01:14.37 | uBdead | can't figure out how to spell "jealus" |
| 01:14.49 | ScytheBlade1 | jealous |
| 01:14.50 | Beider | jealous |
| 01:14.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ~sp jealus |
| 01:14.57 | RingBearer | very jealous |
| 01:14.58 | uBdead | thanks lol |
| 01:15.05 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ @ purl |
| 01:15.19 | RingBearer | I'm trying to do a UI and failing badly |
| 01:15.26 | Beider | http://www.livestream.com/beider/video?clipId=pla_55150966-fc23-4b00-8e07-9fc1ca54fdef <- fancy ui |
| 01:15.31 | uBdead | so I was saying how jealous i am of Mojache's epic voice acting/humor |
| 01:16.05 | ScytheBlade1 | eh, he's kind of a prick. |
| 01:16.09 | Beider | even though I did some improvements since then |
| 01:16.14 | RingBearer | doh... commerical |
| 01:16.25 | uBdead | Beider: i remember that UI |
| 01:16.30 | uBdead | it's freaking amezing |
| 01:16.42 | uBdead | (please correct all my poor grammar/spelling) |
| 01:17.12 | Beider | I was planning on releasing it for public use, just need to figure out how to make it as simple as possible to use |
| 01:17.24 | RingBearer | Thats pretty slick |
| 01:17.26 | Beider | basically like CreateButton(X,Y,Image) |
| 01:17.47 | uBdead | library support will be epic |
| 01:17.51 | RingBearer | Question: How does different screen resolutions afffect it? |
| 01:17.57 | Beider | it works fine |
| 01:18.00 | Beider | it just scales up/down |
| 01:18.04 | RingBearer | cool |
| 01:18.15 | Beider | I usually code on 1900x1200, but I did the video in... 1600x1000 or something |
| 01:18.38 | Beider | want to see my new improved UI? |
| 01:18.58 | RingBearer | Sure |
| 01:19.35 | Beider | k |
| 01:19.36 | uBdead | Beider you better not be good looking |
| 01:19.38 | Beider | will go live on http://www.livestream.com/beider/ |
| 01:19.41 | RingBearer | You pretty much have to do xml editing right? |
| 01:19.46 | Beider | nope |
| 01:19.48 | Beider | no xml |
| 01:19.49 | Beider | just triggers |
| 01:19.55 | RingBearer | hmmm |
| 01:20.06 | RingBearer | Now I am really curious |
| 01:20.09 | RingBearer | What trigger is it |
| 01:21.34 | RingBearer | Display Screen Button? |
| 01:22.47 | uBdead | thats a shitload of triggers lol |
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| 01:23.57 | uBdead | you require additional triggers |
| 01:24.27 | Beider | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1586398/BeiderTD%20v0.2.SC2Map |
| 01:25.00 | RingBearer | Missed some of the start, but checking out the map now |
| 01:25.25 | Beider | it's actually a fully working TD game |
| 01:25.32 | Beider | just need to balance it, but been too lazy |
| 01:25.41 | Beider | all that is left is implementing a camera and balancing the waves |
| 01:25.44 | Beider | waves/towers |
| 01:25.55 | RingBearer | Balance... yeah thats the tough part |
| 01:26.01 | Beider | thats the boring part :P |
| 01:26.59 | RingBearer | Gah the triggers don't have any names for folders |
| 01:27.09 | Beider | uh? |
| 01:27.13 | Beider | really? |
| 01:27.25 | Beider | I am using EU version |
| 01:27.28 | Beider | might be a bug with EU/US |
| 01:27.30 | RingBearer | Ah |
| 01:27.36 | RingBearer | You and your fonts! |
| 01:27.39 | RingBearer | *shakes fist* |
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| 01:27.42 | Beider | :P |
| 01:27.46 | uBdead | easy to fix |
| 01:27.56 | uBdead | it's somewhere on sc2mapster.com |
| 01:28.05 | RingBearer | Something about changing locals? |
| 01:28.15 | uBdead | yep |
| 01:28.40 | RingBearer | bah only option I have is US English |
| 01:28.52 | uBdead | well not that |
| 01:28.56 | Beider | Doesn't it involve using an MPQ editor etc.. |
| 01:29.23 | uBdead | it's something like you open the map, copy the US folder, rename it EU then save it again and its fixed |
| 01:29.33 | uBdead | (well not exactly, but thats the general idea) |
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| 01:31.21 | Beider | well think I will be off to bed now |
| 01:31.33 | uBdead | ye i should too lol |
| 01:31.38 | uBdead | cya |
| 01:31.57 | Beider | night |
| 01:32.07 | RingBearer | oh wow... those loading screens are epic |
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| 01:32.35 | Vortexx | hey everyone |
| 01:34.19 | Vortexx | If I flag a unit with "prevent destroy", can i still "kill unit" via trigger? |
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| 01:41.23 | Dustin| | Xapti |
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| 01:48.18 | Topio | How do you check if a unit is in a region (not enters/leaves) |
| 01:49.39 | Jcup | Compare bounds and points? |
| 01:49.50 | Jcup | on a periodic timer |
| 01:49.54 | Jcup | ? |
| 01:50.07 | Dustin| | Add all units in a region to unit group then check if unti is in unti group |
| 01:50.17 | Jcup | Even better |
| 01:50.18 | Jcup | :D |
| 01:50.34 | Topio | Thanks |
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| 01:51.52 | FrozenFirebat | be sure to throw in Set Variable == Empty player group after your done... if you ever want to use that function again |
| 01:53.44 | FrozenFirebat | on a side note, if you move files containing unit placement information into a MOD, it will place those units at the coordinates on other maps. |
| 01:54.44 | Topio | If a map is dependent on a mod, and you download that map through bnet, you'll have to download the mod too right? |
| 01:55.04 | FrozenFirebat | yes, but the mod compacts into the map when inbedded |
| 01:55.13 | Topio | and if a map is dependent on an older version of a mod, and a new mod comes out, how do you think that happens |
| 01:55.16 | Topio | ah, I see |
| 01:55.32 | FrozenFirebat | To change a mod in a map, you have to change the map to use the new mod |
| 01:55.41 | FrozenFirebat | and it takes up space |
| 01:55.44 | FrozenFirebat | not much mind you |
| 01:55.48 | Topio | so the mods are more for developers if anything |
| 01:55.49 | FrozenFirebat | a couple hundred kb |
| 01:56.00 | FrozenFirebat | yeah it's a /include concept |
| 01:56.11 | Dustin| | Mods are good for projects that want to include map making for their project |
| 01:56.22 | FrozenFirebat | lets you make proto-concepts, and include them into new maps |
| 01:56.48 | Topio | that's awesome, what data is stored in a mod? (Terrain?) |
| 01:56.50 | FrozenFirebat | So for example... after doing Bifuu's Hero tutorial... I never wanted to bother with such a thing again, I just converted it to a mod |
| 01:56.57 | FrozenFirebat | now I just include it if I want a hero |
| 01:57.05 | Skizot | http://i43.tinypic.com/20ievme.jpg |
| 01:57.06 | Topio | Very good idea |
| 01:57.08 | Skizot | http://i43.tinypic.com/16iskdu.jpg |
| 01:57.20 | FrozenFirebat | Nothing dealing with the terrain aspect is included in the mod... but a mod is modified MPQ |
| 01:57.23 | Topio | Skizot: Looks good |
| 01:57.23 | FrozenFirebat | just like a map is |
| 01:57.30 | Skizot | :) |
| 01:57.38 | FrozenFirebat | so, you can save the MOD as components, and move map components into the mod. |
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| 01:57.51 | Aegis_Runestone | oooh |
| 01:57.58 | Aegis_Runestone | so... custom units can be in a mod? |
| 01:58.06 | FrozenFirebat | load up the new mod component files as the mod, save it as 1 mod file... and you get a mod that contains terrain info |
| 01:58.21 | FrozenFirebat | The primary point of a mod is to incorporate data editor info |
| 01:58.25 | Reactorex | I want a firebat mod. :( |
| 01:58.37 | FrozenFirebat | it doesn't seem to incorporate trigger info |
| 01:58.41 | Skizot | i made one Reactorex |
| 01:58.44 | Skizot | well sort of. |
| 01:58.45 | FrozenFirebat | so that HAS to be saved as either a trigger file or a library |
| 01:58.50 | Skizot | it's a barauder that shoots fire |
| 01:59.16 | FrozenFirebat | I made a marauder firebat as my first test with the editor |
| 01:59.24 | FrozenFirebat | I could do so much better now |
| 01:59.34 | FrozenFirebat | since now I know you can have the art applied at an offset |
| 01:59.41 | FrozenFirebat | so you can make it shoot from the hands and not the middle |
| 01:59.42 | Reactorex | Would Marauder or Marine look better for FB? |
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| 01:59.53 | Topio | FrozenFirebat: Did you use the infernal flamethrower and get it to fire from both cannons? |
| 01:59.55 | FrozenFirebat | in the Campaign, Firebats are the marauder model |
| 01:59.57 | Skizot | marauder |
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| 02:00.31 | FrozenFirebat | or rather Marauders are the Firebat model, since they designed them as the Firebat before changing them to what they are now |
| 02:00.48 | Aegis_Runestone | How do you save it as a mod? |
| 02:00.52 | Topio | Yeah, the marauder concept seems screwy for the model |
| 02:00.59 | FrozenFirebat | You have to Start the project as a mod |
| 02:01.04 | Aegis_Runestone | ah crap |
| 02:01.05 | Aegis_Runestone | :/ |
| 02:01.09 | FrozenFirebat | You can convert tho |
| 02:01.11 | FrozenFirebat | it's not too hard |
| 02:01.13 | FrozenFirebat | Make a blank mod |
| 02:01.17 | FrozenFirebat | save it as components |
| 02:01.23 | FrozenFirebat | then save your map as components |
| 02:01.33 | FrozenFirebat | and copy the map pieces you want in your mod to the Mod File |
| 02:01.48 | devilesk | wow thanks for all the info about mods frozenfirebat |
| 02:01.56 | FrozenFirebat | It's my new favorite toy |
| 02:01.56 | devilesk | very useful |
| 02:01.59 | Topio | How do you know which piece is what? Last time I looked in there it seemed vague aside from the T3 stuff |
| 02:02.07 | Aegis_Runestone | yeah |
| 02:02.07 | Topio | FrozenFirebat: You should write a tutorial :) |
| 02:02.10 | FrozenFirebat | there is a couple files in there as well as the T3 files |
| 02:02.14 | FrozenFirebat | which is map specific info |
| 02:02.19 | FrozenFirebat | the files contain the data editor info |
| 02:02.31 | Reactorex | Srsly, FF, you should write a mods tutorial. xD |
| 02:02.34 | FrozenFirebat | which you can copy and paste over (the whole file tree) |
| 02:02.38 | Reactorex | isn't joking. |
| 02:02.42 | FrozenFirebat | I might... |
| 02:02.53 | FrozenFirebat | Mabey I'll get something on the front page of SC2Mapster XD |
| 02:03.00 | Topio | :D |
| 02:03.22 | FrozenFirebat | the thing that pisses me off right now is Trigger Libraries often don't save right |
| 02:03.27 | FrozenFirebat | so the one I posted last night doesn't work |
| 02:03.38 | FrozenFirebat | cause it changed 3 Actions and losses a variable |
| 02:04.20 | FrozenFirebat | so far i've not had any problem with mods... Copying Trigger files is more consistent. |
| 02:04.45 | FrozenFirebat | But I donnot if it'll compile into a new map should the trigger include info that's supposed to be on the map... like regions and specific units |
| 02:06.35 | peterpants | anyone have problems with create actor at point |
| 02:08.04 | peterpants | it keeps giving me an error that it cant create the actor no matter what i pick |
| 02:10.40 | Rectifier | I want to create an interactive dialogue system for a multiplayer rpg, with a hero creation aspect where each player can create their own hero or import from their bank, and a player character to non-player character dialogue aspect controlled by the main character (player 1); I have some experience with C programming but limited experience with the editor, how should I go about setting up these queries? |
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| 02:11.43 | qwebirc58361 | does anyone know what the trigger is called to loop events or conditions? |
| 02:12.12 | Rectifier | i know cycle can be used to add a 1 to a counter variable |
| 02:12.37 | qwebirc58361 | can i add it normally? or do i have to manually add it as code? |
| 02:13.11 | Topio | have you tried the while action? |
| 02:13.14 | qwebirc58361 | cycle... cycle... i don't see that anywhere.... |
| 02:13.22 | Rectifier | cycle is under actions |
| 02:13.29 | Topio | Units In Unit Group Within Region, does anyone know what it expects for value 2? |
| 02:13.41 | qwebirc58361 | i need to loop the event's or conditions, before the actions are called. |
| 02:13.48 | Aegis_Runestone | It's not working... my mod doesn't have my custom data that I copied over, FrozenFirebat. |
| 02:14.07 | Topio | qwebirc58361: the While action specifies it's own condition |
| 02:14.39 | Triceron | updated my screenshot |
| 02:14.41 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Commando_Ingame2.jpg |
| 02:14.59 | qwebirc58361 | i'll see if "while" works, thanks for your help |
| 02:15.02 | Sixen | Wow tricero, that's cool. |
| 02:15.08 | Triceron | thx :D |
| 02:15.11 | Sixen | =) |
| 02:15.38 | Triceron | I'm so happy I got all the settings working |
| 02:16.39 | peterpants | did you make that model triceron |
| 02:16.59 | Triceron | it's based off the ghost's body, but it's heavily modified |
| 02:17.04 | Triceron | and has new textures |
| 02:17.09 | peterpants | that's cool |
| 02:17.10 | Rectifier | using the ghost animations? |
| 02:17.23 | Triceron | animation support doesn't work yet with the exporter |
| 02:17.25 | Aegis_Runestone | Blargh, I GTG |
| 02:17.36 | Triceron | but that's the plan, until I can figure out how their animation system works |
| 02:17.55 | Rectifier | its unfortunate they haven't released the tool that goes with it yet |
| 02:18.11 | Vailreth | probably with retail i hope |
| 02:18.13 | Triceron | it's just a 'doodad' till the tools get updated |
| 02:18.42 | Triceron | nah, this was done with a community tool; so I'm sure animation support will be coming soon |
| 02:20.03 | Bifuu | Anyone got a spare key i can get for a friend? =D |
| 02:20.05 | Rectifier | yeah what's his face Nin-something made the m3 plugin |
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| 02:20.57 | Triceron | yeah mad props to NiNtoxicated01 for the tool |
| 02:21.08 | Vailreth | yep |
| 02:21.56 | Rectifier | how hard is creating custom ai? |
| 02:24.33 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/bomhabevolves/. BomhabEvolves!. Bomhab (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 02:28.01 | peterpants | is there an event that fires when a unit finishes it's order |
| 02:28.07 | Vortexx | i was reading the animation support would be in with retail for sure |
| 02:28.38 | Vortexx | can you have more that 2 conditions under 1 "And"? |
| 02:28.45 | peterpants | vortexx ya |
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| 02:32.47 | Bifuu | Anyone got a link to the full picture of Corbo's Links? lol |
| 02:34.58 | peterpants | how do you edit water again? i only am seeing add and remove water planes :( |
| 02:35.05 | FrozenFirebat | so I just found out that a Trigger Library cannot carry "Text" |
| 02:35.29 | FrozenFirebat | Both a "Text" variable will become blank as well as any dialogue in a trigger library will become blank |
| 02:36.03 | FrozenFirebat | peter: click add, it'll show up |
| 02:36.09 | Vortexx | peterpants: double click on the add |
| 02:36.31 | peterpants | vortexx aha thanks tricky lol i wonder how it got hidden in the first place |
| 02:37.06 | Vortexx | should you want to know, I also learned of a trick to put water on multiple levels |
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| 02:37.24 | peterpants | sure i like tricks |
| 02:38.31 | Vortexx | well each "type" of water edits separately, so if you want one body of water at height "7" and another at "5" just use different types of water |
| 02:38.54 | peterpants | ya, that's a good one |
| 02:48.55 | Reactorex | I might have found an editor bug. :/ |
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| 02:59.01 | Vailreth | what bug? |
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| 03:08.08 | Reactorex | Active players. |
| 03:08.26 | Reactorex | It seems to screw up all of my "picked player" things as soon as I use it. |
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| 03:30.22 | Xapti | Dustin did you have a problem with changing movers? |
| 03:30.30 | Dustin | Ya |
| 03:30.43 | Dustin | I cant figure it out, where are you modifying the mover exactly |
| 03:36.28 | Xapti | via upgrade |
| 03:36.48 | Xapti | i don't know if you need two upgrades or not. I'd reccomend trying just using 1 upgrade for now |
| 03:38.01 | Xapti | make an upgrade, and select unit for it's data reference type, and the unit you want to change for it's data reference object |
| 03:38.17 | Xapti | the field is called mover |
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| 03:38.24 | Shadowclaimer | Can I get some opinions/feedback on http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-brainstorming/1627-world-war-2-the-war-to-end-all-wars/ |
| 03:39.21 | Reactorex | Hey. I'm trying to attach a camera to the head attachment point of my unit. How can I do this? I've tried apply camera property (height offset) to point (height of point- attachment point of unit), but it didn't work for me. |
| 03:39.32 | Shadowclaimer | height offset doesn't work? |
| 03:40.57 | Verr82 | china being yellow is racist |
| 03:41.03 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 03:41.05 | Shadowclaimer | wow |
| 03:41.07 | Shadowclaimer | didn't notice tht |
| 03:41.08 | Shadowclaimer | that* |
| 03:41.13 | Shadowclaimer | fine they'll be pink |
| 03:41.14 | Verr82 | kidding but whatever |
| 03:41.21 | Shadowclaimer | I know someone will bitch about it later I'm sure |
| 03:44.38 | Reactorex | It worked, but I couldn't get the head attachment of the unit. |
| 03:45.06 | Shadowclaimer | ah |
| 03:45.29 | Shadowclaimer | was going to say I figure using height offset you can get to the head's level, then apply the a polar offset for the left-right using the unit's facing angle |
| 03:45.31 | Reactorex | USA needs to be white in your map. Srsly. |
| 03:45.58 | Shadowclaimer | thats what they were originally |
| 03:46.06 | Shadowclaimer | I think I may go as far as setting custom team colors |
| 03:46.09 | Shadowclaimer | and not using premade ones |
| 03:46.10 | Reactorex | Woot. xD |
| 03:47.19 | Shadowclaimer | its getting the diplomacy set up that's annoying |
| 03:47.43 | Shadowclaimer | I don't want the game to be guaranteed Axis vs Allies |
| 03:47.54 | Shadowclaimer | I want it to be your choice, hell if you wanna be the US and join up with Germany be my guest |
| 03:48.06 | Reactorex | But yeah, I want it to be the real height of the unit. |
| 03:48.16 | Reactorex | Like if I have an ultralisk, I don't want to calculate it, I just want to be the head height. |
| 03:48.31 | Reactorex | But I can't seem to use attachment points in triggers. >< |
| 03:48.39 | Shadowclaimer | ah yea that seems like it could be a pain.. |
| 03:48.53 | Shadowclaimer | couldn't you essentially "get" the attachment point's height? |
| 03:48.58 | Shadowclaimer | and set it to a variable? |
| 03:49.20 | Dustin | It has to be for a specific unit? that's kind of pointless |
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| 03:49.35 | Reactorex | I'm trying to get the attachment point's height, but instead of setting it to a variable, I want it to just be in the camera height function. |
| 03:50.11 | Reactorex | Setting it to a variable a-head of time doesn't look like it has purpose. |
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| 03:50.25 | Reactorex | It's giving me an error message saying that it can't get the attachment point. |
| 03:50.40 | Reactorex | I've used "Ref_Head", "e_attachHead", and "head" as attachment points. |
| 03:51.35 | Shadowclaimer | if you don't have too many units you're doing it to, I guess you could just use 3d points and attach them to unit heads at the start and then have the camera height offset reference them |
| 03:51.44 | Shadowclaimer | but that could be overkill |
| 03:51.48 | Skizot | what model are you trying to attach to Reactorex? |
| 03:52.03 | Reactorex | A ghost. |
| 03:52.15 | Skizot | and you want the model where? |
| 03:52.44 | Reactorex | I'm not attaching a model, but rather synchronizing a camera to an attachment point of the model. |
| 03:53.06 | Reactorex | Height of attachment point. I can't seem to reference the attachment point in the trigger editor. |
| 03:53.16 | Shadowclaimer | yea I can't see anything about it |
| 03:53.25 | Skizot | oh yeah that's not really possible. |
| 03:53.36 | Shadowclaimer | strange you'd figure they'd have the ability to reference location of unit attachment points.. I mean its obvious they are in the game |
| 03:53.48 | Shadowclaimer | everything else can automatically reference them but when you manually need to you're screwed |
| 03:54.02 | Skizot | they are only usuable for attaching to, they don't have an actual height |
| 03:54.28 | Skizot | the way the art works is weird. |
| 03:54.37 | Shadowclaimer | I'd say so =/ |
| 03:55.24 | Skizot | well the height merely moves the origin of the model up on the Z |
| 03:55.26 | Reactorex | Either way, it cant seem to get the attachment point from an attachment point name. |
| 03:55.33 | Dustin | hmmm |
| 03:55.36 | Dustin | This isnt working |
| 03:55.56 | Reactorex | Specifically, the part getting the attachment point is the function "Unit attachment point" |
| 03:56.19 | Reactorex | It has two parameters- unit and attachment. Unit is my unit (ghost) and attachment point is what's not reading properly. |
| 03:56.23 | Shadowclaimer | I'm off to bed guys, see you in the morning |
| 03:56.40 | Reactorex | It returns an error (can't get point from what I'm inputting) |
| 03:57.21 | Reactorex | More correctly, it say "Could not get 'p' from parameter in 'PointGetHeight' (value: 65535) |
| 03:57.35 | Reactorex | says* |
| 03:57.59 | Reactorex | It should at least return a value of 0 if it received a proper attachment point, shouldn't it? |
| 03:59.04 | mahashiro | is there a way to attach a timer to a unit? |
| 03:59.05 | Reactorex | But I guess I should hardcode multiple heights depending on the unit the player is using, then? |
| 03:59.14 | mahashiro | I want my units to only be able to heal |
| 03:59.21 | mahashiro | after a certain time |
| 03:59.26 | mahashiro | like every 1 min or something |
| 03:59.41 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/uber-thor-base-defence/. Uber Thor Base Defence. cameroni101 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 03:59.41 | peterpants | how do you turn off right click to move |
| 03:59.49 | mahashiro | but idk how to do it without making an individual timer for every unit type |
| 03:59.54 | Shadowclaimer | uncommandable flag Peter |
| 03:59.59 | Shadowclaimer | its under the unit's flag list |
| 04:00.04 | peterpants | well i still want them commandable |
| 04:00.16 | Shadowclaimer | just not right click moveable? |
| 04:00.18 | peterpants | and that gives a ugly error |
| 04:00.21 | peterpants | yea |
| 04:00.25 | Shadowclaimer | ah not sure |
| 04:00.40 | Dustin | Bahhhh |
| 04:01.32 | Dustin | I dont think the upgrade is applying the movier |
| 04:01.34 | Dustin | mover |
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| 04:02.30 | Corbo | HAI |
| 04:03.40 | Reactorex | Ew. Now my mouselook won't do anything. >< |
| 04:03.44 | mahashiro | maybe set a requirement for move peter |
| 04:03.53 | mahashiro | and use a trigger to set or remove the req |
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| 04:09.45 | Skizot | lol robot chicken is using starcraft sounds. |
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| 04:09.45 | pkol | awesome |
| 04:09.47 | Corbo | skizot |
| 04:09.51 | Verr82 | that's illegal |
| 04:09.52 | Corbo | Did you see the link model? |
| 04:09.53 | Skizot | Corbo |
| 04:09.54 | Corbo | ;o |
| 04:09.56 | Skizot | yeah |
| 04:10.10 | Corbo | It's even more than low poly |
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| 04:10.19 | pkol | i know starcraft 1 stole alot of sounds from places |
| 04:10.20 | Corbo | guess how many it is :D |
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| 04:10.26 | Skizot | i dunno |
| 04:10.29 | Skizot | 300? |
| 04:10.32 | Corbo | YA! |
| 04:10.40 | Corbo | well |
| 04:10.40 | Skizot | :D |
| 04:10.40 | Corbo | 302 |
| 04:10.42 | Corbo | :P |
| 04:10.46 | Corbo | but still |
| 04:10.47 | Rectifier | good guess |
| 04:11.00 | Corbo | I can't wait for animation support |
| 04:11.16 | Corbo | already started terraining my version of hyrule >.> |
| 04:11.24 | pkol | is it possible to extract sound from the editor |
| 04:11.26 | pkol | lol |
| 04:11.29 | Corbo | except it's called corboland |
| 04:11.30 | Skizot | haha go corbo. |
| 04:11.33 | peterpants | anyone else ever had trouble with unit highlighted event |
| 04:11.34 | Corbo | >.> |
| 04:11.41 | Rectifier | corboland xD |
| 04:11.42 | Skizot | you should model some of the buildings. |
| 04:11.47 | Skizot | castles etc |
| 04:12.21 | Corbo | I AM |
| 04:12.31 | Skizot | well i see a lack of pimping! |
| 04:12.39 | Corbo | what do you mean? |
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| 04:12.46 | Skizot | screenshots |
| 04:13.04 | Corbo | well |
| 04:13.08 | Corbo | I am terraining right now |
| 04:13.21 | Corbo | and I've only sketched the city you start in |
| 04:13.49 | Corbo | so I decided you don't start in a forest |
| 04:13.51 | Corbo | or a weird farm |
| 04:13.54 | Corbo | or anything far |
| 04:13.58 | Corbo | you start from a CITY |
| 04:14.19 | Skizot | meh |
| 04:14.25 | Corbo | well |
| 04:14.27 | Corbo | it was city |
| 04:14.30 | Skizot | i say rebuild the zelda 1 map |
| 04:14.30 | Corbo | or LAVAVOLCANO |
| 04:14.36 | Corbo | wait wut |
| 04:14.42 | Corbo | if anything it'd be zelda 2 ;o |
| 04:15.01 | Rectifier | remake the zelda 1 minimap, a grey rectangle with a green pixel being you |
| 04:15.03 | pkol | some guys in my lecture's message tone today was "my life for auir" from the zealot |
| 04:15.06 | pkol | i lol'd hard |
| 04:15.48 | Corbo | :P |
| 04:16.50 | Rectifier | ogg encodes pretty well, i took a 10 mb flac file, turned it into less than 500 kb, and the orchestra still sounded good |
| 04:18.19 | Corbo | I want animated ogvs |
| 04:18.28 | Corbo | as textures |
| 04:18.36 | Corbo | and model animation support |
| 04:18.37 | Corbo | nao |
| 04:18.41 | Xapti | dustin all you need to do is change the effects for a custom mme upgrade |
| 04:18.52 | Dustin | I did |
| 04:18.58 | Xapti | select UNIT for type, and the unit you want for OBJECT, then MOVER for field |
| 04:19.01 | Dustin | I added in Set Mover to Fly for my unit Type |
| 04:19.13 | Dustin | then when I ran the jump I set the upgrade to level 1 |
| 04:19.13 | Xapti | and make sure you right click the blank EFFECTS area and select NEW ELEMENT |
| 04:19.17 | Rectifier | i imagine there will be a creation of music video maps, aka MMVs |
| 04:19.19 | Dustin | then when I stoped it I set the level to 0 |
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| 04:19.36 | HeroicPrinny | Has anyone had trouble using custom sound/music? |
| 04:19.46 | HeroicPrinny | I get this weird error when trying to save |
| 04:19.58 | HeroicPrinny | "unable to move existing archive" |
| 04:20.03 | Rectifier | i havent had any trouble, it was one of the first things i tried out |
| 04:20.24 | HeroicPrinny | yeah |
| 04:20.29 | HeroicPrinny | then i tried it on a fresh map |
| 04:20.33 | HeroicPrinny | and it worked fine |
| 04:20.37 | HeroicPrinny | so glitchy |
| 04:21.12 | Alpha_vst | man fuck man |
| 04:21.22 | Xapti | so dustin, fly is working, but it's nor reverting back to ground? |
| 04:21.29 | Rectifier | ive seen messages like "cannot clear existing archive" or some such, and then it worked when i re-saved |
| 04:21.31 | Dustin | No it's not adding fly |
| 04:21.38 | Dustin | I put a ground only pathing blocked |
| 04:21.41 | Dustin | blocker |
| 04:21.41 | Xapti | did you make a new effect element? |
| 04:21.44 | Dustin | ANd it wont go over it |
| 04:21.46 | Dustin | Ya |
| 04:21.59 | Xapti | try cliffs |
| 04:22.13 | Dest1ny | any1 wanna remake wintermaul with me ? =P |
| 04:22.23 | Rectifier | make the cliffs' height over 9000 |
| 04:22.53 | Dest1ny | guess not :/ |
| 04:23.14 | Rectifier | don't worry, there'll be a cookie cutter tower defense for sc2... |
| 04:24.18 | pkol | wintermaul.. i don't remember what that was |
| 04:24.29 | pkol | but remember playing it |
| 04:24.35 | Dest1ny | im planning to make this map a cookie cutter lol |
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| 04:26.00 | Dustin | Doesnt work with cliffs either =/ |
| 04:26.16 | Xapti | you don't have it set right |
| 04:26.31 | peterpants | can imported UI images be jpeg? |
| 04:26.58 | Dustin | Unit - Engineer: Mover |
| 04:27.03 | Dustin | {Set} |
| 04:27.09 | Dustin | {Fly} |
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| 04:28.00 | JerreyRough | why hello there |
| 04:28.17 | JerreyRough | any way to make this work through mibbit? couldn't find the freenode server |
| 04:30.26 | Alpha_vst | I DID IT |
| 04:30.30 | Alpha_vst | I FUCKING DID IT!!!!! |
| 04:30.35 | pkol | grats |
| 04:30.38 | pkol | what did you do? |
| 04:30.45 | JerreyRough | YAY? waht did you do? |
| 04:30.45 | JerreyRough | *what |
| 04:31.09 | Alpha_vst | hold on its ss worthy :D |
| 04:31.42 | Rectifier | can anybody tell peterpants what format UI images can be? I want to know too >.> |
| 04:32.03 | peterpants | i tried dds but it doesnt show up unless i'm not doing it right |
| 04:32.31 | TheLaughingMan | 5 |
| 04:32.32 | Rectifier | ive gotten tga to work but that wasn't for UI |
| 04:32.55 | Alpha_vst | http://i40.tinypic.com/1z1aec7.jpg BAM!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:33.33 | Corbo | huh? |
| 04:33.39 | Rectifier | does that display weapon range? |
| 04:33.41 | Corbo | UI stuff can be png |
| 04:33.44 | Corbo | tga |
| 04:33.46 | Corbo | and dds |
| 04:33.54 | Corbo | dds with 8 bit explit |
| 04:33.55 | Alpha_vst | YES!!!!!!! |
| 04:33.57 | Corbo | cit transparency |
| 04:33.59 | Corbo | I think? |
| 04:33.59 | Rectifier | o really png too? |
| 04:34.03 | Corbo | Maybe? |
| 04:34.10 | Corbo | png works as textures |
| 04:34.13 | pkol | how hard was that alpha? |
| 04:34.16 | Corbo | and the installer UI is pure pngs |
| 04:34.49 | Rectifier | what if i want to completely remove the installed UI and replace it with a different one? |
| 04:34.52 | Alpha_vst | its still buggy 0.o |
| 04:35.00 | Alpha_vst | only sorta hard once i found it |
| 04:35.17 | Rectifier | is there a function for that somewhere |
| 04:35.26 | Corbo | What do you mean with replace? |
| 04:35.29 | Corbo | reposition it? |
| 04:35.39 | Corbo | You can't edit UI through GE |
| 04:35.45 | Corbo | though, you can hide it |
| 04:35.51 | Alpha_vst | its called dialogs rectifier |
| 04:35.53 | Corbo | and select which objects you do not wanna hide |
| 04:36.24 | Alpha_vst | im proud :D |
| 04:36.43 | Rectifier | what i wanted to do is hide all the normal ui, show a new one with clickable buttons and other stuffs |
| 04:37.15 | Alpha_vst | yeah you can use dialogs |
| 04:37.23 | Rectifier | dialogs is how to do it? |
| 04:37.27 | JerreyRough | there's a enable/disable for the in-game normal UI |
| 04:37.31 | JerreyRough | yea dialogs |
| 04:37.39 | Rectifier | interesting. |
| 04:38.36 | JerreyRough | go into UI in the Events part of a trigger, scroll to the bottom (or search Disable) and the UI should be there |
| 04:38.44 | JerreyRough | *the Disable/Enable UI |
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| 04:43.10 | Alpha_vst | grrrr i crashed teh editor :D |
| 04:43.14 | peterpants | how do you hide UIs graphics |
| 04:43.20 | peterpants | err i mean dialog's graphics* |
| 04:43.28 | peterpants | but still be able to add buttons and what have you to it |
| 04:43.36 | Alpha_vst | hide background |
| 04:43.46 | Alpha_vst | can add in yoru own custom backgrounds also |
| 04:44.00 | peterpants | kk |
| 04:44.02 | Xapti | oh uhh dustin |
| 04:44.06 | Alpha_vst | I didnt save that map :( |
| 04:44.09 | Alpha_vst | oh well |
| 04:44.10 | Xapti | i guess i should have told you to make it colossus |
| 04:44.22 | Xapti | Although I don't see why fly wouldn't work too |
| 04:44.42 | Dustin | It should be working |
| 04:44.46 | Dustin | but its not |
| 04:44.46 | peterpants | can you make a dialog image clickable? |
| 04:44.50 | Dustin | yes |
| 04:44.52 | Xapti | did you try colossus? |
| 04:44.57 | Reactorex | Why does my camera mouse relative mode stop working whenever I use a continual camera pan? |
| 04:45.14 | Xapti | i just tried fly now and it didn't work, but I was using colossus beforr |
| 04:45.23 | Dustin | ill try that |
| 04:45.26 | Xapti | I didn't see why colossus would work while fly wouldn't |
| 04:45.33 | Dustin | went over ground pathing blocker? |
| 04:45.41 | Xapti | cliffs |
| 04:46.02 | Xapti | ground pathing blocker might be like a building, which wouldn't work if that was the case |
| 04:46.15 | Xapti | since colossus can't go over buildings |
| 04:46.21 | Dustin | Fly can get over buildings |
| 04:46.29 | Xapti | yes but fly doesn't work |
| 04:46.29 | Dustin | Which youd think would workd... |
| 04:46.36 | Xapti | yes but i'm using colossus remember |
| 04:46.47 | Xapti | i dont' know why colossus works and fly doesn't |
| 04:46.50 | Xapti | doen't make any sense |
| 04:47.14 | Dustin | Colossus works on cliffs |
| 04:47.23 | Dustin | Didnt Unset the upgrade when I landed though |
| 04:47.35 | Dustin | I need to find somethign that goes over ground blockers |
| 04:47.41 | Triceron | Corbo, you sticking with the oldschool Ocarina models? |
| 04:48.48 | Triceron | I got some of the Twilight Princess models, and I think they're low enough for SC2 |
| 04:49.30 | Rectifier | does the png file have to be a specific type to import |
| 04:49.45 | Rectifier | because i imported and i don't see a preview |
| 04:50.03 | Xapti | doesn't work on the ground blockers then? |
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| 04:50.34 | Reves | Anyone know what a red Diamond means when its next to an if then statement? |
| 04:50.43 | Reves | well on rather |
| 04:51.00 | Reactorex | Hey, if I want to change my fog of war so that previously explored places are no longer explored, what should I do? |
| 04:51.09 | Rectifier | from what i could tell a red diamond usually means something is wrong |
| 04:51.51 | Reves | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.57 | Reves | oh well lol |
| 04:53.47 | peterpants | get mouse UI position is kind of iffy |
| 04:58.11 | peterpants | so how would you make an image clickable |
| 05:00.00 | Xapti | dammit, i'm so annoyed that I can't change collision type, inner-radius, or unit's mover to fly. |
| 05:00.43 | Xapti | all sorts of damn things that shouldn't be hard to do, can't seemingly be done at all |
| 05:01.42 | Corbo | I GOT AN IDEA |
| 05:01.47 | Corbo | GODZILLA MAP! |
| 05:01.55 | Corbo | I can make a godzilla model |
| 05:02.02 | Corbo | and you have to destroy a city |
| 05:02.12 | Corbo | it'll be lulzy because the model will be static |
| 05:02.16 | peterpants | someone already made somethin like that |
| 05:02.24 | Corbo | So it'll be like a lame static godzilla |
| 05:02.25 | Rectifier | how do i set a tooltip to a player's name ? |
| 05:02.26 | peterpants | well defend the city |
| 05:02.28 | Corbo | killing everything! |
| 05:03.57 | Corbo | ya |
| 05:04.02 | Corbo | but this will have GODZILLA! |
| 05:05.57 | Sixen | orly |
| 05:06.09 | Sixen | And corbo, what's with this last breathe of SEN shit? :P |
| 05:06.44 | Corbo | What do you mean? |
| 05:07.01 | Sixen | CPR SEN |
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| 05:07.43 | Corbo | oh ya |
| 05:07.47 | Corbo | Apparently |
| 05:07.49 | Corbo | wait |
| 05:07.50 | Corbo | MSN |
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| 05:15.41 | flingo | hey everyone. are you guys all unable to get to sc2mapster.com or is it just me? |
| 05:16.23 | Corbo | works for me |
| 05:16.25 | Reactorex | I can get on sc2mapster. |
| 05:16.31 | Reactorex | I CAN'T get my mouselook to work. |
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| 05:17.34 | RickA | Can somebody give me a quick explanation of validators? |
| 05:18.41 | Rectifier | they make sure you have the right value |
| 05:19.25 | RickA | Uh |
| 05:19.45 | RickA | Say I want to make sure my ability is only used under certain conditions |
| 05:19.51 | RickA | I would use a validator, right? |
| 05:20.43 | Alpha_vst | im going to start working on my rpg game 0.o |
| 05:21.26 | peterpants | how do you make a dialog image clickable |
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| 05:21.31 | RickA | How's it going so far alpha? |
| 05:21.41 | Rectifier | peter you got a dialog image to work? |
| 05:21.44 | Radaka | are there any Moderators in here currently? |
| 05:21.50 | peterpants | yea i got a dialog image to work |
| 05:22.02 | Rectifier | i can't :( |
| 05:22.10 | peterpants | i just usd one of the in game textures if that's what you mean |
| 05:22.25 | peterpants | are you doing show dialog? after you craete it |
| 05:22.34 | Rectifier | oh damn |
| 05:22.39 | Rectifier | im not doing show dialog |
| 05:22.48 | peterpants | lol it's ok, common mistake |
| 05:22.52 | Rectifier | can i do that within the same trigger? |
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| 05:23.21 | peterpants | ya |
| 05:23.40 | RickA | Rectifier, can I attach validators directly to an ability? |
| 05:24.07 | Alpha_vst | Lol ricka by start i mean i just made a new file :D |
| 05:24.34 | RickA | Oh. I'm trying my hand at one myself and need all the advice I can get. |
| 05:24.37 | Rectifier | i haven't tried using validators yet :/ |
| 05:24.55 | Rectifier | although i'll need them for my combat system |
| 05:24.55 | RickA | Damn it. I'm trying to get one working but I have no clue how they function. |
| 05:25.11 | Rectifier | because i want it based on a d20 system |
| 05:26.37 | RickA | How would that require validators though? |
| 05:26.54 | Rectifier | attack versus armor class |
| 05:27.15 | Rectifier | if attack > armor class then hit else miss |
| 05:27.18 | peterpants | how would you make a image clickable |
| 05:27.24 | peterpants | or how do you hide a buttons graphics |
| 05:27.47 | Rectifier | i got a custom portrait to show but a third of it is off the screen |
| 05:31.39 | mahashiro | hey do you guys know where the screenshots are saved? |
| 05:31.46 | Alpha_vst | replace the image of the button |
| 05:31.46 | mahashiro | like if you print screen in the editor |
| 05:32.03 | Alpha_vst | your documents / sc2/ screenshots |
| 05:33.18 | mahashiro | ty alpha |
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| 05:52.27 | Corbo | So... |
| 05:52.30 | Corbo | about that godzilla map |
| 05:52.44 | Corbo | should it be like some kind of defend the city |
| 05:52.45 | Corbo | or like |
| 05:52.51 | Corbo | RUN AWAY FROM GODZILLA |
| 05:52.58 | Corbo | while godzilla destroys cities too? |
| 05:58.16 | peterpants | i think you should finish your zelda map cuz that sounds hella fun |
| 06:00.55 | Corbo | but godzilla map should be easier ;O |
| 06:01.06 | Corbo | zelda map should be longer |
| 06:02.55 | peterpants | i think it should be you're godzilla |
| 06:03.25 | peterpants | could you make rampage |
| 06:03.26 | peterpants | that'd be sweet |
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| 06:06.40 | peterpants | is there a way to change the mouse cursor to different shapes? do you have to use an ability |
| 06:11.58 | Corbo | permanently or like randomly change to other forms? |
| 06:12.16 | Corbo | permanently changing the cursor would be as simple as replacing the current graphic for it |
| 06:12.36 | peterpants | triggered ideally but ya randomly i suppose |
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| 06:13.11 | Corbo | then I have no idea :P |
| 06:14.59 | Anigma | is there a good tutorial somewhere on how to make projectiles? |
| 06:28.11 | Rectifier | peter, i made a clickable button, but it doesn't do anything yet |
| 06:29.01 | peterpants | a clickable image you mean? |
| 06:29.18 | peterpants | or does it have the button graphics |
| 06:29.21 | Rectifier | first you create it in a dialog and show it, then in a seperate trigger set the event to dialog item used |
| 06:29.49 | Rectifier | i dont think images and buttons are any different, just a different category to separate them logically |
| 06:30.12 | peterpants | orly |
| 06:30.23 | peterpants | i couldnt get a hover image to work on an image |
| 06:30.41 | Rectifier | thats the only real difference ive seen |
| 06:31.03 | Rectifier | so technically you can just make a bigger button if you want an image to change |
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| 06:36.08 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/crimson-ridge/. Crimson Ridge. gastrop0d (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 06:36.12 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/callosum/. Callosum. gastrop0d (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 06:37.28 | pkol | is there a way to set an array size to a constant? |
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| 06:38.35 | Skizot | anyone know how to attach a model to a unit WIHTOUT triggers? |
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| 06:40.59 | pkol | no? |
| 06:41.28 | pkol | alternatively, is it possible to run a for each blah blah from 1 to size of an array? |
| 06:41.41 | pkol | or do i need to just be inefficent |
| 06:45.02 | mahashiro | you can set to a constant |
| 06:45.04 | heysparky | what's the purpose of waves? why not just use groups? |
| 06:45.20 | mahashiro | if you know the size |
| 06:45.26 | mahashiro | you can do a for each for a integer |
| 06:45.33 | mahashiro | idk if there's one for an array |
| 06:47.55 | mahashiro | Skizot, you have to set the actor to what unit you want |
| 06:48.03 | mahashiro | it's sort of weird |
| 06:52.52 | Triceron | is it hard to do? |
| 06:53.30 | Triceron | wish there was an uberlisk tutorial |
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| 06:55.03 | Skizot | i just want to add an effect to a model... so it becomes more visible. |
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| 07:00.20 | Sixen | ~futah |
| 07:00.24 | Sixen | ~seen futah |
| 07:00.25 | purl | futah <~xel@ip68-228-73-58.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15d 3h 54m 46s ago, saying: 'i can save/restore from bank just fine, i think one of your parameters is messed up'. |
| 07:02.19 | Bifuu | ~seen EasterBunny |
| 07:02.19 | purl | Bifuu: i haven't seen 'easterbunny' |
| 07:02.25 | Bifuu | neither have i |
| 07:02.53 | EasterBunny | FUCK YOU AND YOUR EGGS |
| 07:03.07 | Bifuu | ~seen Easterbunny |
| 07:03.08 | purl | easterbunny <~skizot@105-189.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15s ago, saying: 'FUCK YOU AND YOUR EGGS'. |
| 07:03.29 | Bifuu | ~seen Bifuu |
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| 07:03.40 | peterpants | ~seen purl |
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| 07:03.53 | Bifuu | wtf is a hosernet |
| 07:04.32 | Bifuu | So i managed to recreate a Gameloop in triggers =D No more Periodics ever! yays |
| 07:05.00 | peterpants | nice |
| 07:05.05 | devilesk | what's that |
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| 07:05.15 | peterpants | whats bad about periodics tho |
| 07:05.39 | Bifuu | a Game Loop is something every game has, its what makes games differnt from the average application |
| 07:05.47 | Bifuu | and Periodics ive found to be buggy and slow |
| 07:05.57 | Jerub | well, most programs call it a mainloop |
| 07:05.58 | pom_pom | so can anyone in here answer anything in http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24702034853&sid=5000 |
| 07:07.11 | Bifuu | Periodics also flood your trigger debugger with trigger runs, my loop doesnt |
| 07:07.19 | Bifuu | thus makes things alot cleaner =D |
| 07:08.08 | mahashiro | I'm using periodics to spawn some units every 5 min |
| 07:08.14 | mahashiro | would it be better to use a game loop? |
| 07:08.28 | Bifuu | mahashiro: thats fine |
| 07:08.39 | Bifuu | Gameloop is better instead of using |
| 07:08.44 | devilesk | how do you use it? |
| 07:08.47 | Bifuu | "every 0.01 seconds..." |
| 07:08.57 | mahashiro | oh ok |
| 07:09.03 | mahashiro | how does it work? |
| 07:09.09 | Bifuu | http://filesmelt.com/dl/looptest.SC2Map |
| 07:09.39 | Bifuu | hard to explain |
| 07:09.39 | Bifuu | so |
| 07:09.42 | Bifuu | just look =P |
| 07:09.54 | Bifuu | basically its just 2 triggers |
| 07:10.01 | Bifuu | that calle ach other |
| 07:10.20 | Bifuu | Trgi1 > Trig2 > trig1 > trig2 > trig1 ..... over and over |
| 07:10.51 | Bifuu | Trig1 contains all the actions needed to perform updates |
| 07:10.57 | Bifuu | sucha s bullet positions |
| 07:11.13 | mahashiro | so this is one thread? |
| 07:11.44 | Bifuu | i think its 2? im not too sure tbh |
| 07:12.02 | devilesk | oh that's clever |
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| 07:12.38 | Bifuu | before SC2 i wrote my own game engines from scratch so im used to working with game loops and not cause and effect triggers |
| 07:12.39 | Bifuu | so |
| 07:12.48 | mahashiro | hmm |
| 07:12.56 | mahashiro | so without this type of control |
| 07:13.03 | Bifuu | to me it feels more natural and faster |
| 07:13.12 | mahashiro | there would be nothing like a while loop |
| 07:13.24 | devilesk | are there any events or conditions that let me know when a hero has an item equipped |
| 07:13.28 | Bifuu | Technically it is a While loop lol |
| 07:13.28 | mahashiro | that's what you're trying to implement right? |
| 07:13.54 | mahashiro | why not just use a while loop? |
| 07:14.04 | Bifuu | its set to run 60 times a second |
| 07:14.10 | Bifuu | so thats 60 updates a second |
| 07:14.29 | Bifuu | replacing the need of "Every .016 seconds.. |
| 07:15.13 | devilesk | if you set it to 0 would it just run at .016 |
| 07:15.19 | devilesk | is that the minimum |
| 07:15.26 | mahashiro | so the don't wait until it finishes thing |
| 07:15.33 | Bifuu | if you sec it to 0 it overthreads |
| 07:15.34 | mahashiro | that makes it so the next part runs immediately? |
| 07:15.36 | Bifuu | set |
| 07:15.47 | Bifuu | yes |
| 07:16.02 | mahashiro | and the regular while loop finishes the check first |
| 07:16.06 | mahashiro | ok |
| 07:16.18 | mahashiro | so what happens if you have already started |
| 07:16.22 | mahashiro | game loop restart |
| 07:16.31 | mahashiro | and the conditions are false |
| 07:16.33 | mahashiro | ? |
| 07:16.53 | Bifuu | Go see, in the game type "-tog" with no quotes |
| 07:17.06 | Bifuu | it just stops updating things |
| 07:17.27 | Bifuu | In games you only end the game loop for certain things |
| 07:17.46 | Bifuu | such as pausing, menues, and other states |
| 07:17.59 | Bifuu | Very simple games you would only end the loop when you quit |
| 07:19.07 | Bifuu | (assuming that is what you asked) |
| 07:19.34 | mahashiro | ok, when I start, I get an error in gameloop |
| 07:19.41 | mahashiro | too much execution |
| 07:19.48 | mahashiro | but the lings spawn |
| 07:19.48 | Bifuu | Need a longer wait |
| 07:20.01 | Bifuu | they spawn but dont move do they |
| 07:20.11 | mahashiro | they move to start |
| 07:20.16 | mahashiro | but they stop |
| 07:21.38 | mahashiro | ok I think I understand how this would be useful |
| 07:22.10 | mahashiro | it's like tcp sort of |
| 07:22.25 | mahashiro | optimistic exectution in this case |
| 07:23.08 | Xolsom | How do you set your loop to run 60 times per second? |
| 07:23.32 | Bifuu | set the wait to 0.017 real time |
| 07:23.58 | mahashiro | so if you have a while loop w/o conditions |
| 07:24.02 | mahashiro | and put the wait in there |
| 07:24.10 | mahashiro | what would be the difference? |
| 07:24.20 | Xolsom | Well the time in galaxy works with ticks, which occure very 1/32 second |
| 07:24.26 | Bifuu | mahashiro: none |
| 07:24.40 | mahashiro | ok |
| 07:25.21 | Bifuu | i think its just easier like this than a loop in a trigger |
| 07:25.28 | Xolsom | Your 0.017 would basically round up to 0.03125 |
| 07:25.52 | Bifuu | Xolsom: the trigger says real time so |
| 07:25.53 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.58 | Bifuu | im going with that it doesnt lie |
| 07:26.03 | Bifuu | and its actual seconds |
| 07:26.22 | mahashiro | this would be cool for a defend the fort type game |
| 07:26.29 | mahashiro | if you had different threads |
| 07:26.33 | mahashiro | spawned off |
| 07:26.50 | Bifuu | Works great for shooters too |
| 07:26.52 | mahashiro | custom attack waves |
| 07:28.33 | heysparky | can someone give a 2 second description of waves as tehy relate to groups and gameplay |
| 07:28.52 | mahashiro | first time I've seen the run trigger command 0_0 |
| 07:29.25 | Xolsom | Well test it :P Create a map with about 5 waits in a trigger which runs after game start - and write the elapsed time after every wait :P |
| 07:29.52 | Bifuu | Xolsom: too lazy |
| 07:30.43 | Xolsom | :P But anyways even a 32 times per second loop is nice |
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| 07:31.23 | Bifuu | if it really was 32 you could edit it to 60 justs etting the time lower |
| 07:31.47 | Bifuu | ~0.0053 i think |
| 07:31.58 | mahashiro | the cliff height thing was bothering me all day today |
| 07:31.58 | Bifuu | i totally did that in my head and i suck at simple math |
| 07:32.03 | mahashiro | but I finally figured it out :) |
| 07:32.06 | mahashiro | http://i.imgur.com/ItGLm.jpg |
| 07:32.07 | Bifuu | nice |
| 07:32.08 | mahashiro | check it out |
| 07:32.13 | mahashiro | I use the tower |
| 07:32.57 | Sixen | looks nice, mahashiro, :) |
| 07:33.06 | mahashiro | :) |
| 07:33.11 | Xolsom | A 0 second wait still rounds up to 1/32 |
| 07:33.15 | mahashiro | I've done almost everything I can |
| 07:33.21 | mahashiro | until the new unit models come out |
| 07:33.36 | mahashiro | I'm going to start on another map soon |
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| 07:34.42 | mahashiro | see the thing about sc1 is the cliff reveal |
| 07:34.45 | mahashiro | when units shoot |
| 07:34.57 | mahashiro | but in sc2, you need a spotter |
| 07:35.15 | Bifuu | Night all |
| 07:35.15 | mahashiro | so the tower lets the teams fight over that area |
| 07:35.18 | mahashiro | gnight |
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| 07:43.23 | Xolsom | But what will the lower team do if the upper team hast control over the tower? |
| 07:45.48 | heysparky | gnight bifuu |
| 07:50.11 | Xapti | what was your problem mahashiro |
| 07:50.27 | Shadowclaimer | is it possible to make naval units in Starcraft 2? |
| 07:50.43 | mahashiro | well the point is the lower team shouldn't have control of the tower too easily |
| 07:50.51 | Xapti | well manually yea, by setting a region they can only move in |
| 07:50.52 | mahashiro | if they do, they can just kill the robo fac |
| 07:51.08 | mahashiro | which is an important structure |
| 07:51.25 | mahashiro | but if the low team does take that tower |
| 07:51.33 | mahashiro | they are flankable from two sides |
| 07:51.40 | mahashiro | so they're very vulnerable |
| 07:52.16 | Shadowclaimer | eh Xapti I think that's a bit overkill trigger wise, I was trying to find a way to do it in movers, I think I could do it by setting them only able to move on a cliff height of the water level |
| 07:52.55 | mahashiro | maybe set the unit height to the water's height and close the border pathing? |
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| 07:53.06 | Shadowclaimer | contemplated that |
| 07:53.12 | Shadowclaimer | but then how would you construct them =/ |
| 07:53.22 | mahashiro | problem would be with different water heights |
| 07:53.29 | mahashiro | construct what? |
| 07:53.33 | Shadowclaimer | well for the most part there'd be a solid water height |
| 07:53.34 | Shadowclaimer | the ships |
| 07:53.42 | Shadowclaimer | I intend for them to be buildable units, as well as their associated shipyard |
| 07:53.55 | mahashiro | you can change structure heights as well |
| 07:53.59 | mahashiro | for the shipyard |
| 07:54.03 | Shadowclaimer | sadly I'm not seeing anything helpful under movers |
| 07:54.06 | mahashiro | so floating gateway or something |
| 07:54.22 | mahashiro | I think you should be more concerned about pathing |
| 07:54.26 | mahashiro | than the movers |
| 07:54.37 | Xapti | I don't think unit height is absolute |
| 07:54.44 | Xapti | it's just relative to the area you're sitting in |
| 07:54.50 | mahashiro | yea |
| 07:54.58 | mahashiro | but water is absolute over an area |
| 07:55.01 | mahashiro | or it looks weird |
| 07:55.05 | Shadowclaimer | I figure there should be a way to do it in the data editor |
| 07:55.05 | Xapti | yea |
| 07:55.21 | Shadowclaimer | I don't think they'd just dump naval unit useability from warcraft 3 o.O |
| 07:56.01 | mahashiro | I think the unit height thing |
| 07:56.08 | mahashiro | and the pathing blockers will be ok |
| 07:56.14 | mahashiro | if there are no drops |
| 07:56.23 | mahashiro | like medivac type things |
| 07:56.41 | Shadowclaimer | there are transport planes and ships and stuff is the downfall, |
| 07:57.14 | Xapti | how do you call mouse position? |
| 07:57.22 | mahashiro | yea would have to somehow make it so land units don't go on water |
| 07:57.26 | mahashiro | and water don't go on land |
| 07:57.39 | Xapti | mouse position can only be called when user clicks I guess right? |
| 07:57.39 | Shadowclaimer | and air can go on both |
| 07:57.46 | mahashiro | air doesn't matter |
| 07:58.01 | mahashiro | height won't make a difference w/ taht |
| 07:58.28 | mahashiro | maybe have regions where units can't be dropped? |
| 07:58.35 | mahashiro | or only certain units can be dropped? |
| 07:59.29 | Shadowclaimer | this is a large map, making a region for everything could take a lot of time |
| 07:59.42 | Shadowclaimer | not to mention binding them in associated arrays so that way I could use that many regions simultaneously |
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| 08:02.13 | mahashiro | yea idk what else you can do |
| 08:03.01 | mahashiro | gnight guys |
| 08:03.10 | Shadowclaimer | night maha |
| 08:03.53 | heysparky | gnight mahashiro |
| 08:05.32 | heysparky | perf wise, is Unit Dies taxing or not-taxing as an event to hang triggers on? |
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| 08:10.41 | Azu | spam |
| 08:11.17 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sc2-aod/. SC2 Art of Defense. PhyzX21 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
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| 08:13.38 | Odonen | Anyone know of a way to remove an actor from a unit via triggers? |
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| 08:15.20 | Shadowclaimer | Odonen I wish, I've been trying to remove a turret from a unit for awhile now |
| 08:15.21 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 08:15.33 | Topio | So I just found out what echo/ does in batch, noticed echo\ doesn't display the slash either, would that be up one line? |
| 08:16.52 | Xapti | i don't know why map editor doesn't let you get mouse position in scenarios other than mouseclick |
| 08:16.58 | Xapti | it's pretty lame |
| 08:17.12 | Xapti | there's no valid reason for it |
| 08:17.14 | Topio | It doesn't allow reading of the X,Y when over a frame? |
| 08:17.34 | Xapti | huh? |
| 08:18.46 | Odonen | man, you can remove model quite easily. why not put a remove actor in too.... meh |
| 08:20.45 | Shadowclaimer | yea Xapti its one of the bigger problems, you'd think that they'd do it given how many complaints for it and the fact they've said a million times they want good shooters in it |
| 08:20.54 | Shadowclaimer | kinda hard to make a good shooter given the tools we're given |
| 08:21.07 | Shadowclaimer | well one that doesn't lag like balls online and have a remotely accurate shooting system |
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| 08:21.30 | Xapti | all sorts of holes with the editor |
| 08:21.48 | Xapti | not to mention all the complexity, but that will go away with time/documentation |
| 08:22.38 | Odonen | aha! I found a way to swap models in a single actor. Does what I need it to. |
| 08:22.48 | heysparky | what command/order do you issue to get marines inside a bunker via triggers? |
| 08:23.57 | heysparky | oh, wait... wrong issue order type... |
| 08:24.24 | Triceron | swap models with an actor? What does that mean |
| 08:24.52 | Shadowclaimer | I hope blizzard's next patch fixes a lot of issues with the editor and also implements publishing.. although I think I'm willing to wait for publishing in exchange for some fix ups |
| 08:25.29 | Shadowclaimer | wait Odenen? Are you saying that you swapped out a turret's model for like no model and it worked? |
| 08:25.44 | pom_pom | sc2mapster.com owned for anyone else? |
| 08:26.34 | Beider | Odonen: Using "Effects+"? |
| 08:27.02 | Beider | errr |
| 08:27.04 | Beider | Events+ |
| 08:27.19 | Odonen | im not entirely sure how to whisper on here, but to answer beider... using the 'Send Actor Message' command |
| 08:27.28 | Beider | You can swap actors by using "Events+" in the actor, just look at zergling / marine. That is how they add combat shield/wings for cracklings |
| 08:28.21 | Odonen | hmm |
| 08:28.42 | Beider | but then you have to set it up to swap on an event |
| 08:28.56 | Beider | so like the player gaining an upgrade, actor gaining a weapon / buff |
| 08:28.56 | Odonen | true |
| 08:29.30 | Odonen | this literally just swaps the 'Model' in the actor file out for another, on a tigger execution |
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| 08:30.22 | Beider | neat |
| 08:30.41 | Odonen | and useful |
| 08:30.53 | Shadowclaimer | alright thing I solved naval units |
| 08:31.04 | Shadowclaimer | partially with mahashiro's method |
| 08:31.38 | Beider | there is a mover for water units in the game? |
| 08:31.43 | Shadowclaimer | I wish, been trying to make one |
| 08:31.48 | Shadowclaimer | unless there's a trick to it, negative |
| 08:32.07 | Beider | that is kind of sloppy of blizzard, they could have forseen that people would want that |
| 08:32.27 | Shadowclaimer | I had to make land units that move at a base height (7.5 is my water, 7.55 is my unit height) then put ground pathing blockers on cliffs, and make the unload function on transport ships have a longer range than all teh ground blockers |
| 08:32.35 | Shadowclaimer | only problem being you can unload tropos in the water still.. |
| 08:32.39 | Clord | it should be possible to fake that with flying units on water and somehow prevent them from changing height |
| 08:32.39 | Clord | XD |
| 08:33.02 | Clord | but it still would look buggy |
| 08:33.05 | Clord | not to mention pathfinder |
| 08:33.59 | Beider | Shadowclaimer: You could make a region all over your water and look for use of the ability. If the target point is within the region just cancel it as it is queued up |
| 08:34.10 | Shadowclaimer | yea making a region over my water really isn't a possible.. |
| 08:34.13 | Shadowclaimer | choice |
| 08:34.22 | Shadowclaimer | I may have to just base it on height actually |
| 08:34.33 | Shadowclaimer | well if I can check a casted ability's z thati s |
| 08:34.37 | Beider | why not? The new regions are great. You can add and remove parts of a single region |
| 08:34.46 | Shadowclaimer | because my map is of europe and its very.. very.. complex lol |
| 08:34.48 | Beider | making it any shape you want |
| 08:34.53 | Beider | risk? |
| 08:34.57 | Shadowclaimer | World War 2 actually |
| 08:35.00 | Beider | k |
| 08:35.04 | Shadowclaimer | which is why naval units are paramount |
| 08:35.23 | Beider | True could always check the height of the point the ability is used at |
| 08:35.25 | Beider | that is even easier |
| 08:35.32 | Shadowclaimer | but yea my base terrain height is like 8.0 and water starts at 7.5, so I think I can just have it hceck when using unload if the height of terrain below them is under |
| 08:35.33 | Shadowclaimer | yea |
| 08:35.59 | Shadowclaimer | Bleh Blizzard kinda screwed me over |
| 08:36.22 | Shadowclaimer | was expecting to be able to make naval movers xD |
| 08:36.29 | Odonen | anyone find anything about the using multiple 'maps' in a single game? |
| 08:40.56 | Azu | can some one localize a standard td (latest version)? :D |
| 08:40.57 | Odonen | think that is accomplished through the 'starmap' set of functions? |
| 08:41.55 | BarakatX2 | hmm why do zealots have a rally point button |
| 08:43.26 | Shadowclaimer | starmap functions aren't enabled |
| 08:43.37 | Shadowclaimer | played around with them heavily one night, anything you do in regards to them will not work for now |
| 08:44.12 | Odonen | yeah, I noticed that |
| 08:44.27 | Odonen | I just wonder if that is how the multi-map stuff comes into play |
| 08:44.30 | Odonen | or something like that |
| 08:44.45 | Odonen | a disabled function |
| 08:52.54 | heysparky | hmmm... so how DO you load units into a bunker... the action (Bunker - Load (Bunker) is squirelly looking and doesn't work like I thought it might |
| 08:55.39 | Clord | you can go to pick targets to load random or closest what means it loads only one unit |
| 08:55.52 | Clord | but when unit enters to bunker you can make clone unit what acts same |
| 08:55.55 | Clord | so it keeps loading more |
| 08:55.57 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:56.50 | Clord | because silly at it is.... bunker consider closest unit that one what is already loaded if it is same type as target |
| 08:57.04 | Clord | because in fact it is just invisible and middle of bunker |
| 08:57.13 | Shadowclaimer | doing paratrooping solders will be a pain but I get the feeling I can do it really awesomely |
| 08:57.33 | heysparky | Weird... because the action says 'ALL units in UnitGroup do X |
| 08:57.37 | heysparky | but... nobody does jack |
| 08:57.47 | heysparky | thanks Clord |
| 08:59.15 | Clord | in my fortress fight there is bunker for SCV builder but it not shoot itself.. instead it loads automatically moved units ^^ |
| 08:59.27 | Clord | so I figured how to do that closest to bunker thing well ;) |
| 08:59.52 | Azu | http://i44.tinypic.com/wqzorc.jpg :) |
| 09:00.14 | Clord | lol |
| 09:00.14 | Azu | i wonder why i have so many lost temple custom games played ;) |
| 09:00.20 | Clord | me too ;) |
| 09:00.31 | Clord | Public V2 is now released btw |
| 09:00.33 | Clord | from my map |
| 09:00.41 | Azu | :o |
| 09:01.15 | Azu | lols |
| 09:01.17 | Azu | 6mins ago |
| 09:02.00 | Shadowclaimer | I wonder if a shadowmeld effect is possible, so that you cloak hwen standing still.. |
| 09:02.12 | Azu | should be |
| 09:02.23 | Shadowclaimer | would be nice for my sniper units |
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| 09:03.22 | Paras1te | Hi there |
| 09:03.25 | ShadowTiger | i finally finished my TD... |
| 09:03.30 | Azu | ooh |
| 09:03.35 | Azu | steals |
| 09:03.37 | Paras1te | Do you know Can Siege Tank be ordered to attack ground? |
| 09:03.39 | ShadowTiger | after 2 1/2 weeks |
| 09:03.58 | ShadowTiger | Soemone said they got attack ground working |
| 09:04.06 | ShadowTiger | i coudlnt get it, so i made my own using triggers |
| 09:04.11 | ShadowTiger | check out my map for example : D |
| 09:04.16 | Paras1te | name? |
| 09:04.22 | Azu | gief |
| 09:04.25 | ShadowTiger | ShadowTD |
| 09:04.29 | ShadowTiger | i dunno if its approved yet |
| 09:04.38 | Azu | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/shadowtd/files/1-shadow-tdv1-0/ |
| 09:04.52 | Azu | us or eu? |
| 09:04.54 | ShadowTiger | us |
| 09:04.56 | Azu | gah |
| 09:04.58 | Paras1te | Ok, lets check this out |
| 09:05.01 | Azu | someone localize it ;< |
| 09:05.03 | ShadowTiger | lol no text for you |
| 09:05.23 | Clord | I give most of my maps via publish feature |
| 09:05.30 | Clord | I made expection with that one map |
| 09:06.38 | Azu | ill play it without text then ;< |
| 09:06.46 | Paras1te | ShadowTiger: Ok now tell me where should I search =D |
| 09:06.53 | ShadowTiger | k |
| 09:07.00 | ShadowTiger | its called "tower - Artillery Tower" |
| 09:07.09 | ShadowTiger | and it has a dummy attack that does 1 damage |
| 09:07.16 | ShadowTiger | then the trigger intercepts it |
| 09:07.27 | ShadowTiger | and tells it to cast 3 artillery attack abilities |
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| 09:07.36 | Clord | aka just lik WCIII auto cast |
| 09:07.38 | Clord | lol |
| 09:07.40 | Clord | with towers |
| 09:07.47 | Clord | some TD used that trick |
| 09:07.58 | ShadowTiger | yeah the nice thing is that i made the abilities invisible |
| 09:08.10 | ShadowTiger | and it uses the shift commandm but i hid the waypoints |
| 09:08.20 | heysparky | hmmm... Clord. I thought I understood what you were saying. |
| 09:08.23 | heysparky | I don't. |
| 09:09.05 | ShadowTiger | yeah ive been trying to do lots of stuff with the data editor only but for some things i give up and use triggers |
| 09:09.17 | Clord | sparky... ??? ;) |
| 09:09.20 | Paras1te | ShadowTiger: Nice Idea |
| 09:09.37 | heysparky | mind if I paste my triggers in here? |
| 09:09.50 | ShadowTiger | yeah so my version shoots a 3 shot spread with random deviation from the target point |
| 09:09.52 | heysparky | I'm sure they're all kinds of broken |
| 09:10.12 | ShadowTiger | it looks really awesome when you have 5+ working together |
| 09:10.42 | Clord | lol.... my youtube video is easily going most popular yet compared to my other ones |
| 09:10.46 | Clord | 20th is the charm lol XD |
| 09:11.08 | heysparky | brb |
| 09:11.17 | ShadowTiger | whats it about clord? |
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| 09:12.18 | Clord | my map video |
| 09:12.19 | Clord | lol |
| 09:12.27 | Clord | 1402 views and counting |
| 09:12.45 | ShadowTiger | nice |
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| 09:17.32 | Clord | my own site denied my file type |
| 09:17.33 | Clord | lol |
| 09:18.13 | Shadowclaimer | what was a special infantry unit of Italy, Greece, Scandinavia, Minor Allied States (Netherlands, Belgium, etc.), China, and Japan during WW2.. |
| 09:18.15 | Shadowclaimer | trying to fill this in |
| 09:18.46 | Beider | try google |
| 09:18.59 | Shadowclaimer | google really doesn't solve this, I just get lots of random stuff |
| 09:19.16 | Shadowclaimer | Wikipedia is the best source currently, but takes a lot of digging |
| 09:21.18 | heysparky | So, what are the elements I need to fill in here... I'm mystified... |
| 09:21.19 | heysparky | Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to (Ability Command) (Replace Existing Orders) |
| 09:21.30 | heysparky | to get a bunker loaded |
| 09:21.51 | heysparky | (I have the for each picked in group set up to call this for each unit that I want to load) |
| 09:22.55 | Azu | toxic tower = slow? |
| 09:24.53 | Valconeye | is there a way to give a player vision across a region like in war3? |
| 09:25.17 | heysparky | check the visibility category |
| 09:25.27 | heysparky | I think I saw something that can give vis to a region |
| 09:25.39 | Clord | yeah there is |
| 09:25.46 | Clord | you can even give circle visibility of certain point |
| 09:25.50 | Clord | in wanted size |
| 09:25.50 | Valconeye | got it, thx :) just called something else now |
| 09:28.17 | Shadowclaimer | Anyone in here Finnish per chance? |
| 09:29.24 | Azu | nope |
| 09:29.28 | Azu | almost tho |
| 09:29.29 | Azu | swe :p |
| 09:29.41 | Shadowclaimer | was going to ask about the Winter War |
| 09:29.58 | Shadowclaimer | and if having the Finnish special infantry be a "Talvi-Soturi" (Winter-Soldier) aka a camoflauged sniper be good |
| 09:33.10 | Clord | Talvisoturi |
| 09:33.13 | Clord | but yeah XD |
| 09:33.17 | Shadowclaimer | so I should run it together? |
| 09:33.32 | Shadowclaimer | I used a translator and retranslated it back, then figured I'd check with a finnish friend of mine but he's not online |
| 09:33.44 | Clord | it is "talvisoturi"... I'm finnish |
| 09:33.49 | Shadowclaimer | Thank you |
| 09:34.07 | Shadowclaimer | and that is accurate? I mean the legends kinda run on how badass Finnish soldiers were in the winter war |
| 09:34.11 | Clord | but it sounds still weird choice ^^ |
| 09:34.11 | Shadowclaimer | and the guerilla tactics of them |
| 09:34.17 | Shadowclaimer | what would you prefer then? |
| 09:35.09 | Clord | while soturi means warrior and soldier.... "sotilas" means just "soldier" |
| 09:35.20 | Clord | soturi sounds like something ancient |
| 09:35.21 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:35.35 | Shadowclaimer | ah, well the translation I used was Winter Warrior and it translated back Winter Soldier so I ran with it |
| 09:35.57 | Shadowclaimer | so should I go with Talvisotilas then? |
| 09:36.16 | Clord | well it is more accurate while not make us look as so legendary ^^ |
| 09:36.17 | Clord | lol |
| 09:36.21 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 09:36.23 | Clord | but you can make stuff sound more bad ass ;) |
| 09:36.25 | heysparky | oooooooh... the bunker does the loading |
| 09:36.30 | heysparky | guh |
| 09:36.34 | Shadowclaimer | the winter war was kinda epic clord |
| 09:36.43 | Shadowclaimer | you guys did kinda takeo n the Soviet Union and murder them in an unseen kill-death ratio |
| 09:37.02 | Clord | well... soviet was ran with booze |
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| 09:37.04 | Clord | so what to expect |
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| 09:37.13 | Clord | you can't really aim or use tactics while drunk |
| 09:37.16 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 09:37.17 | Valconeye | heh, that happened to me aswell sparky |
| 09:37.26 | heysparky | :) |
| 09:37.32 | Shadowclaimer | now to figure out a good Finnish vehicle or aircraft.. |
| 09:37.46 | Shadowclaimer | I contemplated doing a Fokker Ace but I'm unsure |
| 09:37.56 | Clord | modern stuff is cooler like "pasi panssarivaunu"..... ^^ |
| 09:38.02 | Clord | but not really WWII |
| 09:41.02 | Clord | but I can mention this |
| 09:41.14 | Clord | finnish is damn hard language for foreigners |
| 09:41.16 | Clord | lol |
| 09:41.20 | Shadowclaimer | I'd say so |
| 09:41.22 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 09:41.35 | Shadowclaimer | Especially for Americans, they don't teach us shit over here in regards to anything.. |
| 09:42.10 | Clord | there is over 200 suffixs for word "kauppa" |
| 09:42.19 | Clord | but most of them are probably useless |
| 09:42.29 | Clord | lol |
| 09:42.32 | Clord | over 2000 I mean |
| 09:43.20 | Shadowclaimer | English is a mishmash of Latin, Old French, and Middle English, its quite hilarious because essentially most words have 3 words for the same meaning |
| 09:43.36 | Clord | lol |
| 09:44.05 | Clord | learning japanese is way easier than some languages even |
| 09:44.50 | Clord | but it is very hard to read |
| 09:44.58 | Clord | when using kana |
| 09:45.08 | Clord | I mean... |
| 09:45.09 | Clord | kanji |
| 09:45.13 | Clord | confusing terms here lol |
| 09:45.16 | Shadowclaimer | yea my brother gave up on japanese |
| 09:45.18 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 09:45.24 | Shadowclaimer | he was taking a class on it |
| 09:46.06 | Clord | I have self learned quite a lot |
| 09:46.33 | Clord | http://smart.fm/users/Clord |
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| 09:47.58 | Shadowclaimer | oo never seen that site before |
| 09:48.03 | Shadowclaimer | maybe its time to learn russian afterall |
| 09:49.14 | Shadowclaimer | bleh the Minor Allied States are going to be annoying.. |
| 09:49.24 | Shadowclaimer | I'm contemplating swapping them out for another nation and leaving them all as neutral, but they did fight quite a bit |
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| 09:50.12 | Shadowclaimer | they consist of Denmark, Belgium, and the Netherlands |
| 09:50.56 | Clord | that site is good.. it is japanese funded |
| 09:51.36 | Xan | Shadowclaimer: what are you making? |
| 09:51.36 | Clord | so their learn japanese partner series what has total 6000 words.. aka core 2000 and core 4000 |
| 09:51.49 | Shadowclaimer | a World War 2 Diplomacy map but without any set allegiances |
| 09:51.52 | Clord | professional anime voice actors have made voices |
| 09:51.55 | Shadowclaimer | so if the US wanted to group together with Germany they could etc. |
| 09:51.59 | heysparky | gnight folks |
| 09:51.59 | Xan | oh |
| 09:52.00 | Shadowclaimer | I'm trying to get the factions locked down |
| 09:52.08 | Xan | is sweden neutral? |
| 09:52.15 | Clord | you could make it intentionally not very accurate |
| 09:52.19 | Shadowclaimer | Sweden and Norway are both set to neutral for now |
| 09:52.23 | Shadowclaimer | sinceI'm running out of player slots.. |
| 09:52.27 | Xan | norway shouldn't be neutral |
| 09:52.39 | Shadowclaimer | well here's the problem |
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| 09:52.48 | Shadowclaimer | I maybe removing the pacific theater |
| 09:52.54 | Shadowclaimer | and if I do, that'll free up three slots |
| 09:52.54 | Clord | in beginning let people pick their country |
| 09:52.57 | Clord | XD |
| 09:53.02 | Clord | and just make tons countries |
| 09:53.07 | Xan | which countries are playable? |
| 09:53.08 | Clord | then they can conquer rest |
| 09:53.10 | Shadowclaimer | currently |
| 09:53.19 | Shadowclaimer | The United States (New York and Chicago) - White |
| 09:53.21 | Shadowclaimer | France (Paris and Merseille) - Violet |
| 09:53.22 | Shadowclaimer | USSR (Moscow and Kiev) - Red |
| 09:53.24 | Shadowclaimer | Great Britain (London and Cairo) - Blue |
| 09:53.25 | Shadowclaimer | Germany (Berlin and Munich) - Black |
| 09:53.27 | Shadowclaimer | Italy (Rome and Palermo) - Dark Green |
| 09:53.28 | Shadowclaimer | Slavik States (Romania, Hungary, Yugoslavia) (Budapest and Bucharest) - Brown |
| 09:53.30 | Shadowclaimer | Finland (Helsinki, Espoo) - ?? (Maybe White) |
| 09:53.31 | Shadowclaimer | Canada (Winnipeg and Montreal) - Teal |
| 09:53.33 | Shadowclaimer | Greece (Athens and Thessaloniki) - Light Grey |
| 09:53.36 | Shadowclaimer | Minor Allies (Denmark, Belgium, The Netherlands) (Copenhagen and Brussels) - Purple |
| 09:53.37 | Shadowclaimer | Japan (Tokyo and Kyoto) - Pink |
| 09:53.39 | Shadowclaimer | Australia (Sydney and Darwin) - Yellow |
| 09:53.41 | Shadowclaimer | China (Shanghai and Chongqing) - Green |
| 09:53.42 | Shadowclaimer | Japan, Austrailia, and china might be getting cut in exchange for Norway, and the splitting of the Slavik States |
| 09:53.49 | Shadowclaimer | because i don't think i'll eb able to fit the pacific theater in the map itself |
| 09:54.11 | Xan | hungary isn't slavic :p |
| 09:54.17 | Clord | remember to give every country real chance to win if player is good |
| 09:54.30 | Shadowclaimer | eh it was a grouping, basically I had to combine three back in Warcraft 3 (12 player limit) |
| 09:54.33 | ShadowTiger | except france : P |
| 09:54.37 | Tehwildcard | ^ |
| 09:54.59 | Xan | remove canada from playable and you're set |
| 09:55.18 | Xan | and add norway to minor allies |
| 09:55.29 | ShadowTiger | btw... im pretty sure you can only have 12 human players in a game |
| 09:55.38 | Xan | and remove hungary from slavik states (or change the name from slavik) |
| 09:55.41 | Clord | this is rare but sometimes even historical map can screw over history and let people do whatever they want |
| 09:55.57 | Clord | it is dull to play by some book |
| 09:56.25 | Xan | at what year does it start? 1939? |
| 09:56.42 | Clord | hearts of iron series... when hearts of iron 3 came out there was huge whine how it didn't historically force AI to play like it happened in books |
| 09:56.55 | Clord | but for me that is fun |
| 09:57.06 | Clord | it gives real challenge =) |
| 09:57.31 | ShadowTiger | well it might be boring to play teh same battle over and over if the AI doesnt adapt |
| 09:57.54 | Clord | hearts of iron 3 AI has too much freedom for some.. it does adapt |
| 09:57.55 | Clord | lol |
| 09:58.20 | Clord | like how nazi germany can actually win |
| 09:58.36 | Clord | or japanese becomes rulers of the world |
| 09:59.01 | Xan | Clord: can the alliances change too? Like germany break the alliance with japan etc? |
| 09:59.32 | Clord | it is stuck in axis vs allies vs russia... >_> XD |
| 09:59.41 | Clord | axis vs allies vs communists |
| 09:59.44 | Xan | ah |
| 09:59.45 | Xan | wtf |
| 10:00.01 | Clord | but you can declare war |
| 10:00.05 | Clord | and break alliances I think too |
| 10:00.12 | Xan | I thought russia was on allies side during ww2 |
| 10:00.46 | Clord | and they accidently dropped stuff to finnish hands what was meant for russia |
| 10:00.48 | Clord | lol |
| 10:02.33 | Clord | normally that game is not about world domination but get certain regions what give victory points |
| 10:02.37 | Clord | then when end hits ^^ |
| 10:02.51 | Clord | axis, allies or communists with most victory points are winners |
| 10:08.48 | Paras1te | Ehhh. Dunno how to change font size... |
| 10:10.00 | ShadowTiger | for? |
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| 10:34.23 | Azu | omg |
| 10:34.23 | Azu | http://i43.tinypic.com/2vigzdw.jpg |
| 10:34.39 | Azu | sc2 froze.. |
| 10:36.05 | Azu | ShadowTiger damn you |
| 10:36.06 | Azu | ;< |
| 10:36.15 | ShadowTiger | really? |
| 10:36.30 | Azu | sadface ;_; |
| 10:36.36 | ShadowTiger | where at? |
| 10:36.42 | Azu | level 38 |
| 10:36.51 | Azu | colosus (spelling) |
| 10:37.28 | ShadowTiger | hmm |
| 10:37.31 | ShadowTiger | any idea why? |
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| 10:38.30 | Xan | ccmu |
| 10:38.47 | Azu | used blackhole |
| 10:38.58 | Azu | but it worked levels before that |
| 10:38.59 | Azu | so |
| 10:39.00 | Azu | dno :s |
| 10:40.44 | ShadowTiger | doesnt blackhole just make them attack? |
| 10:40.47 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 10:40.55 | ShadowTiger | I updated the page to say not to use it |
| 10:41.18 | ShadowTiger | anyways i hope it was fun before it crashed |
| 10:41.42 | Azu | yeah :) |
| 10:41.55 | Azu | btw, thors are suppose to destroy towers |
| 10:41.57 | Azu | right? >_< |
| 10:43.07 | ShadowTiger | nope |
| 10:43.25 | Azu | :x |
| 10:43.40 | Azu | so blackhole fucks them up? :o |
| 10:43.45 | ShadowTiger | ya |
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| 10:44.14 | ShadowTiger | The problem is that some abilities like fungal growth and Blackhole erase the unit's current orders |
| 10:44.22 | Azu | ah |
| 10:46.25 | Shadowclaimer | so.. |
| 10:46.38 | ShadowTiger | so...... |
| 10:46.42 | Shadowclaimer | I kicked out my internet cord |
| 10:46.46 | Shadowclaimer | spent an hour trying to figure out why my internet wasn't working |
| 10:46.50 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 10:49.33 | Shadowclaimer | who was it I was talking to about norway and stuff before I disappeared? |
| 10:49.57 | ShadowTiger | clord and xan |
| 10:50.49 | Xan | ya |
| 10:51.00 | ShadowTiger | Xan play my TD |
| 10:51.06 | Xan | later :) |
| 10:51.11 | ShadowTiger | k |
| 10:51.14 | Azu | and use blackhole as often as you can |
| 10:51.21 | Azu | (y) |
| 10:51.25 | ShadowTiger | lol dont |
| 10:51.31 | ShadowTiger | unless you want extra challenge |
| 10:51.42 | ShadowTiger | do you think the banelings should do more damage? |
| 10:52.05 | Azu | dno |
| 10:52.12 | Azu | i lost 23 lifes on obervers |
| 10:52.22 | ShadowTiger | no detection? |
| 10:52.29 | Azu | i did have detection :s |
| 10:52.35 | ShadowTiger | no thunder towers? |
| 10:52.54 | Azu | didnt see thunder tower untill a few levels after >< |
| 10:53.02 | Shadowclaimer | yea Xan my internet kerploded due to me kicking it out |
| 10:53.15 | Xan | ah |
| 10:53.21 | Xan | you saw my suggestion? |
| 10:53.22 | Xan | :) |
| 10:53.43 | Shadowclaimer | no =( |
| 10:53.58 | Shadowclaimer | we were discussing slavik states before it blew up I think |
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| 10:54.45 | Xan | hungary(budapest) = not slavik, norway should be "minor allies" (as denmark pretty much gives up the first day of the war), and hmm |
| 10:54.47 | Xan | ye |
| 10:55.37 | Shadowclaimer | Minor Allies have been reduced to mostly neutral |
| 10:55.41 | Shadowclaimer | Norway is becoming its own team |
| 10:55.49 | Shadowclaimer | Romania is becoming a player team |
| 10:55.53 | Shadowclaimer | Hungary probably will too |
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| 10:56.13 | Shadowclaimer | Yugoslavia is probably being transferred to neutral (even though they weren't really, they were an early casualty and not a huge driving force in the war) |
| 10:56.20 | Xan | and if greece is playable, shouldn't turkey be too? |
| 10:56.45 | Shadowclaimer | I don't know much about Greece or Turkey in the war honestly, but Turkey was formerly a faction but I removed them to add the pacific theater, I will probably reimplement them |
| 10:56.51 | Clord | oh sparky over hour ago asked something from me but I managed to miss it |
| 10:56.52 | Clord | lol |
| 10:56.54 | Shadowclaimer | I'm still torn between Turkey or a North African Faction |
| 10:57.20 | ShadowTiger | oh yeah did you see my message that i dont think you can have 12 human players |
| 10:57.25 | ShadowTiger | I mean more than 12 |
| 10:57.31 | Clord | you can bet that most people real history knowledge is enough poor mostly to make some expections |
| 10:57.32 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:57.40 | Shadowclaimer | yea I figure |
| 10:57.44 | Clord | there is tons of less known wars and battles what almost nobody hear |
| 10:57.47 | Shadowclaimer | I thought it was 14? |
| 10:57.50 | Xan | aha |
| 10:58.06 | Xan | greece didn't play a major part in ww2 |
| 10:58.06 | Shadowclaimer | I know a bit about Greece, I know they had the first actual victory against hte Axis |
| 10:58.13 | ShadowTiger | well there is a setting where you choose max players... and it is limited to 12 |
| 10:58.26 | Shadowclaimer | really? |
| 10:58.28 | Shadowclaimer | wtf |
| 10:58.30 | Shadowclaimer | they why have 14 in the list dammit |
| 10:58.39 | Shadowclaimer | I fucking swear Blizzard |
| 10:58.40 | ShadowTiger | i think its so you can have 2 extra CPU |
| 10:58.44 | Shadowclaimer | still.. |
| 10:58.45 | Shadowclaimer | its moronic |
| 10:58.48 | Clord | mapping purposes |
| 10:59.06 | Clord | campaign with tons sides etc |
| 11:00.13 | Shadowclaimer | but if the sides can be computers what's keeping them from being players? |
| 11:00.41 | Shadowclaimer | the lobby UI o.O |
| 11:00.46 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 11:01.07 | Xan | the game is of the whole world? |
| 11:01.47 | Shadowclaimer | its of Europe with the Eastern Seaboard and some Canada |
| 11:01.52 | Xan | well you need 2 computer controlled players I guess, for neutral and stuff |
| 11:01.57 | Shadowclaimer | err American Eastern Seabord* |
| 11:01.59 | Shadowclaimer | Seaboard* |
| 11:02.02 | Shadowclaimer | well the Neutral player handles that |
| 11:02.04 | Xan | but australia and japan is in? |
| 11:02.08 | Shadowclaimer | not anymore |
| 11:02.10 | Xan | oh |
| 11:02.46 | Xan | so allies: USA, canada, UK, ussr, france, minor states, and axis: germany, italy, ...? |
| 11:02.51 | Xan | awefully lot of allied states |
| 11:02.52 | Xan | :) |
| 11:02.59 | Clord | what is useful in this new neutral hostile functionality is that they don't turn back to their spawn position etc |
| 11:03.14 | Clord | not to mention units not flee back to spawn position after channeling something |
| 11:03.16 | Shadowclaimer | Well the diplomacy is not set |
| 11:03.18 | Shadowclaimer | you start allied |
| 11:03.22 | Shadowclaimer | but you can break alliance |
| 11:03.23 | Xan | oh finland too |
| 11:03.30 | Shadowclaimer | for example if France wants to join Axis they can |
| 11:03.36 | Shadowclaimer | anyone can do anything they really want |
| 11:03.38 | Clord | if everyone is ally with eachother in beginning... they start pick players one by one |
| 11:03.39 | Shadowclaimer | its just a framework |
| 11:03.39 | Clord | lol |
| 11:03.39 | Xan | I'm guessing most people will keep their allainces though |
| 11:03.59 | Shadowclaimer | yea I figure, I may introduce an upkeep system |
| 11:04.05 | Shadowclaimer | where the more units you have the higher hte drain on your economy |
| 11:04.13 | Shadowclaimer | like maintenance |
| 11:04.20 | Shadowclaimer | to keep the usual mass units |
| 11:05.14 | Shadowclaimer | should I make LMG and Sniper units have to "set up" like a siege tank |
| 11:05.29 | Clord | it should be way more effective upkeep than in WCIII |
| 11:05.33 | Clord | like you lose minerals |
| 11:05.34 | Clord | over time |
| 11:05.48 | Shadowclaimer | well you generate tax revenue from owning cities |
| 11:05.59 | Xan | how many cities will there be? |
| 11:06.00 | Shadowclaimer | and it'll lower the amount of taxes you get by a percentage |
| 11:06.08 | Shadowclaimer | each country will have 2-3 main cities and a lot of smaller ones |
| 11:06.24 | Shadowclaimer | I may go Rise of Nations style with an Assimilation System aka in order to capture a city you have to take and hold it for so many minutes |
| 11:07.17 | Clord | other simple thing is fuel |
| 11:07.18 | Clord | lol |
| 11:07.25 | Shadowclaimer | oh Aircraft will have fuel for sure |
| 11:07.28 | Shadowclaimer | not positive about vehicles yet |
| 11:07.36 | Clord | when forces move they just spend fuel and more fuel otherwise they don't respond to commands |
| 11:07.38 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:07.49 | Shadowclaimer | I figure that'd work then give a unit a Brilliance Aura that regenerates nearby units fuel |
| 11:07.51 | Shadowclaimer | like a supply truck |
| 11:07.59 | Shadowclaimer | so you have to maintain supply lines erally to keep your tanks up |
| 11:19.32 | Shadowclaimer | am I still connected to this and everyone is quiet? |
| 11:20.18 | Zaratulius | Hi Everyone :) Can u check my map and say what do u think about my lvl/stats system? http://www.speedyshare.com/files/22396018/Warrior.SC2Map |
| 11:23.49 | Azu | us/eu? |
| 11:24.25 | Zaratulius | i fixed localization |
| 11:26.21 | Shadowclaimer | Good news everyone, you're now reading this in Farnsworth's voice |
| 11:26.29 | Shadowclaimer | in other news, Denmark is being changed ot neutral, player slotfreed up |
| 11:27.51 | Shadowclaimer | However I think I need to implement Hungary in its place |
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| 11:31.55 | Azu | seems cool |
| 11:32.08 | Azu | exept it spawns wahy to many units >< |
| 11:32.23 | Azu | the map that is |
| 11:32.27 | Azu | level system seems cool |
| 11:34.43 | Shadowclaimer | Anyone know what the British primary fighter aircraft was in WW2? |
| 11:35.11 | Azu | spitfire |
| 11:35.17 | Azu | i thin |
| 11:35.18 | Azu | k |
| 11:35.37 | Shadowclaimer | Thank you =D |
| 11:35.39 | Xan | yes indeed |
| 11:35.41 | Zaratulius | yea spawn is just set for testing :) |
| 11:35.54 | Zaratulius | it will be totaly redone later |
| 11:36.04 | Azu | :) |
| 11:36.06 | Zaratulius | i need to add skill lvling now |
| 11:36.11 | Shadowclaimer | now should the British get a better Fighter, better bomber, or better vehicle.. I figure Fighter because that was their primary defense |
| 11:36.21 | Azu | :) |
| 11:36.41 | Zaratulius | save now only saves items and hero but i will maki it save all stats and exp |
| 11:36.42 | Xan | I think even spitfire was their only fighter plane |
| 11:36.46 | Xan | (UK's) |
| 11:37.24 | Shadowclaimer | yea they had multiple versions of it (various Mark versions, that they tried to outwit the German's) |
| 11:37.49 | Zaratulius | and |
| 11:37.50 | Shadowclaimer | I think I'll go with the Mark I |
| 11:38.00 | Shadowclaimer | it had an astounding performance record during the Battle of Britain |
| 11:38.05 | Zaratulius | And GUI was easy to understand? |
| 11:38.19 | Shadowclaimer | actually nvm, the V was the only one to see service outside of Britain |
| 11:38.46 | Azu | pretty much yeah |
| 11:38.54 | Xan | german plane was called messerschmitt or something like that |
| 11:39.02 | Zaratulius | good |
| 11:39.07 | Azu | didnt notice stats at first |
| 11:39.09 | Azu | >< |
| 11:39.09 | Azu | but |
| 11:39.19 | Azu | otherwise it was easy to understand :) |
| 11:40.02 | Zaratulius | did u used shop? |
| 11:40.22 | Azu | yeah |
| 11:40.25 | Azu | bought weapons |
| 11:40.27 | Azu | armor |
| 11:40.33 | Azu | and sheild stuff |
| 11:40.39 | Azu | potions etc |
| 11:40.49 | Zaratulius | i don't know why but sometimes items don't spawn in inventory but on the ground... |
| 11:40.55 | Azu | yeah >< |
| 11:42.38 | Zaratulius | ok so now i will make skills window :D |
| 11:42.54 | Azu | :D |
| 11:44.14 | Shadowclaimer | Time to figure out Italy's special unit and infantry.. |
| 11:45.46 | Xan | whats germany's? |
| 11:46.06 | Shadowclaimer | Germany - Tiger I Ace (Heavy Tank), Stermentrooper (SMG Soldier) |
| 11:46.44 | Xan | what about V-2 missile? |
| 11:46.45 | Xan | :) |
| 11:46.48 | Xan | rocket* |
| 11:47.38 | Shadowclaimer | I may make it a special unit later, if I can get everyone set up with two special units I may go ahead and do a third for everyone |
| 11:47.53 | Shadowclaimer | maybe an Artillery replacement |
| 11:48.18 | Xan | V-2 is very unique to germany |
| 11:48.59 | Shadowclaimer | but so is the Tiger I though, combined with their Blitzkrieg its a powerful beast =p |
| 11:50.04 | Xan | yea |
| 11:51.03 | Shadowclaimer | I'm trying to give everyone one vehicle and one infantry for now |
| 11:51.38 | Shadowclaimer | figures, Canada is pita to get a vehicle for lol |
| 11:52.13 | Shadowclaimer | I had them with a Bomber Command but I can't find any references to the type of plane they used for such sorties |
| 11:52.23 | Xan | I say screw canada :p |
| 11:52.26 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 11:55.45 | Shadowclaimer | AHA |
| 11:57.00 | Shadowclaimer | The Sexton |
| 11:57.11 | Shadowclaimer | a powerful artillery produced by Canada for indirect fire |
| 11:57.32 | Xan | what will be the french speciality? |
| 11:57.38 | Xan | baguettes? |
| 11:58.13 | Shadowclaimer | backwards gears on all their tanks |
| 11:58.21 | Shadowclaimer | H-39 Light Tank (Light Tank), Freedom Fighter (Riflemen) |
| 11:58.46 | Shadowclaimer | I'm going to implement a chat string that if a French player types "I surrender" it'll instantly give all their units to Germany |
| 11:59.00 | Xan | france had a lot of land in africa too |
| 11:59.14 | Xan | which wasnt taken by germany |
| 11:59.33 | Shadowclaimer | alright it'll give all their european stuff to germany |
| 11:59.51 | Shadowclaimer | Italy is a pita to come up with stuff for.. |
| 12:00.51 | Shadowclaimer | hmm could either use their light, medium, or heavy tank.. |
| 12:01.01 | Shadowclaimer | could replace their medium tank with a Tank Destroyer of Italian Origin |
| 12:02.29 | Xan | why one vehicle and one infantry for each country? shouldn't they be good at different things? |
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| 12:02.55 | Xan | oh and, are there gonna be ships? |
| 12:02.57 | Shadowclaimer | There will be a base racial research for each nation that'll give them a general bonus (IE: Germany's Blitzkrieg makes all their tanks faster and various other bits) then they'll receive a special "replacement" unit" |
| 12:02.59 | Shadowclaimer | yes there will be |
| 12:03.07 | Shadowclaimer | figured out how to do them this morning |
| 12:03.26 | Shadowclaimer | so the German Tiger I Ace replaces their Heavy Tank |
| 12:03.39 | Shadowclaimer | and their Sturmentrooper replaces their Infantry |
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| 12:04.08 | Xan | and I guess all countries arent supposed to be perfectly balanced, as germany pretty much was the strongest country, and some countries were pretty weak in comparison |
| 12:04.20 | Shadowclaimer | well I'm going to try my best to make ti balances |
| 12:04.22 | Shadowclaimer | balanced* |
| 12:04.34 | Xan | like norway shouldnt be able to beat germany etc |
| 12:04.44 | Shadowclaimer | In mine they will be able to if they really tried |
| 12:04.53 | Shadowclaimer | each nation will have their own advantages, and I'm going to try to make strategy a major bit |
| 12:05.00 | Xan | because the army of germany would be like 50 times bigger than norways |
| 12:05.00 | Shadowclaimer | the units go with a minor rock-paper-scissors bit |
| 12:05.00 | Xan | :P |
| 12:05.53 | Shadowclaimer | my norwegian friend says Norway was best at Saboteurs, true/false? |
| 12:06.23 | Xan | saboteurs lol |
| 12:06.32 | Xan | norway was occupied pretty quickly in the war |
| 12:06.42 | Shadowclaimer | ok but still what were they good at during the time they were fighting back/ |
| 12:07.33 | Xan | well after they were occupied they had some guerilla tactics I guess |
| 12:07.53 | Shadowclaimer | thats what he's saying, they sabotaged a lot of Axis ships and tanks |
| 12:08.01 | Xan | I think the player who controls norway should control other minor countries as well |
| 12:08.23 | Xan | like denmark, belgium, netherlands etc (even if those were occupied quickly) |
| 12:08.24 | Shadowclaimer | well I was going to group up them all as Scandinavia but I think keeping them seperate is best |
| 12:08.35 | Xan | sweden was neutral (not in the war) |
| 12:08.41 | Xan | and finland was on the opposite side |
| 12:08.43 | Shadowclaimer | well Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands were all the Minor Allies faction that I just broke up and made Neutral |
| 12:08.45 | Xan | so doesn't work |
| 12:09.12 | Xan | finland got aid from germany against soviet (who invaded them) |
| 12:09.52 | Shadowclaimer | yea I know, Finland gets Fokker Ace (Light/Heavy Fighter), Talvisoturi (Sniper) |
| 12:09.53 | Clord | lol and soviet used it later as excuse... ;) |
| 12:09.56 | Azu | nyaa |
| 12:10.38 | Xan | and germany had free passage through sweden to get to finland |
| 12:10.38 | Azu | :p |
| 12:10.38 | Xan | (for sweden to keep its neutrality) |
| 12:10.57 | Shadowclaimer | the Italian Infantry is hard to decide on |
| 12:11.13 | Clord | it is embrassing for them that they failed to conquer Finland even thought it was situation like "can't lose" ;) |
| 12:11.32 | Xan | Clord, you are from finland? :) |
| 12:11.47 | Clord | yeah |
| 12:11.52 | Shadowclaimer | 32 Tanks vs 2-5,000 Tanks |
| 12:11.53 | Xan | :p |
| 12:12.08 | Shadowclaimer | 337,000–346,500 men about 1,000,000 |
| 12:12.20 | Shadowclaimer | 114 aircraft vs 4000 aircraft |
| 12:12.24 | Shadowclaimer | and the Finnish still "won" |
| 12:12.31 | Azu | im ashamed that swe let germany walk through their country ;( |
| 12:12.44 | Clord | I wonder when some big company has balls to do game of wars like finland vs soviet in FPS form and sell millions.... as some part at least in their campaign ;) |
| 12:12.53 | Xan | @Azu: better than getting invaded I guess :P |
| 12:12.59 | Azu | true :p |
| 12:13.21 | Clord | something what not every person in USA know |
| 12:13.31 | Azu | >< |
| 12:14.10 | Clord | I mean wwii IS overdone in certain areas |
| 12:14.15 | Clord | should bring something new |
| 12:14.44 | Shadowclaimer | grr.. freaking cannot find any reference to Italian special infantry.. |
| 12:14.52 | Shadowclaimer | I mean I barely saw something about their Engineers being decent and that's been about it |
| 12:15.01 | Shadowclaimer | all I can really tell is that they were really good Henchmen for the Germans |
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| 12:17.16 | Shadowclaimer | Here's the base tech tree: http://pastebin.org/225154 |
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| 12:17.27 | Shadowclaimer | everyone shares that tech tree outside of swaps from National Units |
| 12:17.41 | Xan | italy will have mussolini |
| 12:17.49 | Xan | as hero unit |
| 12:17.50 | Xan | ^^ |
| 12:18.09 | Shadowclaimer | lol I was contempalting adding all the leaders as such, not sure yet though |
| 12:18.22 | Xan | the hero unit will be much weaker than a normal soldier |
| 12:19.02 | Xan | generals and such might be able to be special units |
| 12:19.23 | Xan | like himmler |
| 12:19.33 | Shadowclaimer | I'm contemplating doing a special ability system globally |
| 12:19.38 | Shadowclaimer | like supply drops, air raids, etc. |
| 12:19.52 | Shadowclaimer | where you have a global resource that can call in various actions anywhere in the world you have line of sight to |
| 12:20.32 | LonZealot | is the tech tree for your ww2 map? |
| 12:20.33 | Xan | or charles du gaulle |
| 12:20.33 | Xan | :p |
| 12:20.38 | Shadowclaimer | yes LonZealot |
| 12:21.06 | Shadowclaimer | I will be doing some Rock Paper Scissors in the units, so LMGs tear apart light units, snipers are best vs biological, etc. |
| 12:23.53 | Shadowclaimer | I think I'm going to make Snipers and LMG units have to set up, IE: Siege tank, and while snipers do it they are cloaked |
| 12:24.16 | Shadowclaimer | I also think most infantry will have at least a very very close range stealth detection radius |
| 12:25.04 | Shadowclaimer | so when using saboteurs you'll have to avoid infantry mostly, but also have to keep an eye out for enemy things that detecti n larger radii |
| 12:25.47 | Xan | what do saboteurs do? |
| 12:26.04 | Shadowclaimer | bomb things, they can be used to disable factories, steal money, etc. |
| 12:27.23 | Clord | my public map is being compared to zergling's blood in youtube side |
| 12:27.24 | Clord | lol |
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| 12:28.13 | Shadowclaimer_ | reset after I said "Bomb things, they can be used to disable factories, steal money, etc." so I missed anything after that |
| 12:28.23 | Azu | http://i40.tinypic.com/2l8yjhf.jpg |
| 12:29.00 | Clord | lol Azu |
| 12:29.08 | Clord | quite clever |
| 12:29.20 | Azu | lol |
| 12:29.22 | Azu | oh |
| 12:29.25 | Azu | it was lost temple |
| 12:29.26 | Azu | >< |
| 12:29.33 | Azu | its not custom map |
| 12:29.35 | Azu | normal >< |
| 12:30.19 | Clord | zergling's blood.... gotta google |
| 12:30.20 | Clord | lol |
| 12:32.17 | Clord | so they compare my kerrigan arena map to it because it spawns zerglings in beginning |
| 12:32.24 | Clord | XD |
| 12:32.28 | Clord | silly |
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| 12:34.31 | Clord | there is one weird thing in that flametrhower weapon |
| 12:34.39 | Clord | I made it also target vs air in that map |
| 12:34.42 | Clord | but it not aim there |
| 12:34.45 | Clord | still hit right |
| 12:34.46 | Clord | =) |
| 12:36.05 | Clord | I probably add missiles as secondary weapon or something |
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| 12:39.06 | Shadowclaimer | I swear.. this storm keeps knocking my internet out |
| 12:45.48 | Shadowclaimer | can anyone hear me? |
| 12:45.52 | Xan | yes |
| 12:45.55 | Shadowclaimer | just checking |
| 12:46.00 | Shadowclaimer | wasn't sure if I got cut outagain or not |
| 12:46.14 | Xan | which countries have you now included? |
| 12:46.15 | Shadowclaimer | so question, should I dump Greece into Neutral and put a different nation in? |
| 12:46.21 | Shadowclaimer | The United States |
| 12:46.23 | Shadowclaimer | France |
| 12:46.24 | Shadowclaimer | USSR |
| 12:46.26 | Shadowclaimer | Great Britain |
| 12:46.27 | Shadowclaimer | Germany |
| 12:46.29 | Shadowclaimer | Italy |
| 12:46.30 | Shadowclaimer | Canada |
| 12:46.32 | Shadowclaimer | Greece |
| 12:46.33 | Shadowclaimer | Romania |
| 12:46.35 | Shadowclaimer | Hungary |
| 12:46.36 | Shadowclaimer | Finland |
| 12:46.38 | Shadowclaimer | Norway |
| 12:46.40 | Xan | romania? |
| 12:46.41 | Xan | :S |
| 12:47.28 | Azu | no swe? ;< |
| 12:47.36 | Shadowclaimer | Sweden is neutral |
| 12:47.36 | Xan | imo, make a "minor allied countries" instead of norway, and include denmark/holland/belgium/greece/norway into that so that it will be as strong as the other countries |
| 12:47.49 | Shadowclaimer | well every nation starts on equal grounds really |
| 12:47.51 | Xan | and make hungary/romania/austria one faction |
| 12:47.54 | Azu | so? :P |
| 12:47.57 | Xan | which is axis |
| 12:47.57 | Azu | we can still kickass >_> |
| 12:48.05 | Shadowclaimer | I'm going to make sure everyone starts with the same amount of cities and towns |
| 12:48.20 | Shadowclaimer | so actual balance between nations won't be drastic |
| 12:48.21 | Xan | yeah, so norway alone wouldnt be really large |
| 12:48.32 | Xan | thats why I would suggest adding more countries to that player |
| 12:48.45 | Shadowclaimer | dammit I was happy I had finally cut all the almagated factions xD |
| 12:49.08 | Xan | switzerland and sweden would be neutral |
| 12:49.11 | Xan | ^^ |
| 12:49.24 | Shadowclaimer | Formerly it was Scandinavia, Minor Allies (Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands), Slavik Nations (Hungary, Romania, Austria) |
| 12:49.46 | Xan | and liechtenstein |
| 12:49.48 | Xan | ^^ |
| 12:50.16 | Xan | well, scandinavia had pretty different alligiences |
| 12:50.22 | Shadowclaimer | is it possible for player 0 to have allies and enemies? |
| 12:50.23 | Xan | and hungary isnt slavik |
| 12:50.28 | Clord | I probably again do final fantasy vii world map.... in WCIII map base of operations was Cosmo Canyon for AVALANCE ;) |
| 12:50.30 | Shadowclaimer | I know Xan, I cut that whole bit apart |
| 12:51.37 | Xan | ah :) |
| 12:52.09 | Xan | anyways, a player with only norway would really be unaccurate if it was as strong as e.g. germany, I think :) |
| 12:52.18 | Xan | thats why I proposed he controlled more countries |
| 12:52.38 | Shadowclaimer | As much as I agree, I'm not going for raw realism on military strength in this |
| 12:52.46 | Shadowclaimer | its meant to be a fun diplomatic bit with the general feel of the era |
| 12:52.55 | Shadowclaimer | otherwise I'd make the Soviets start with 500000000 units xD |
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| 12:53.07 | Xan | ah |
| 12:53.10 | Xan | but I mean... it's norway :P |
| 12:53.15 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 12:53.19 | Shadowclaimer | they do have access to water though |
| 12:53.21 | Shadowclaimer | which is a bonus |
| 12:53.35 | Shadowclaimer | makes them valuable in their own right |
| 12:53.43 | Xan | but they had 10 times like less people in total than germany's army |
| 12:53.44 | Shadowclaimer | great staging ground for someone wanting to invade Britain |
| 12:53.46 | Xan | :D |
| 12:54.22 | Shadowclaimer | well in this they'll have to earn those 10x as many troops x |
| 12:54.23 | Shadowclaimer | xD |
| 12:54.35 | Shadowclaimer | but yea I'm thinking about dropping Greece for Hungary probably |
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| 12:54.50 | Xan | also hungary was occupied by germany pretty early |
| 12:54.57 | Xan | along with austria etc |
| 12:54.59 | Shadowclaimer | yea but they at least had a serious military |
| 12:55.23 | Xan | austria-hungary used to be one country, maybe put them together |
| 12:55.29 | Shadowclaimer | probably actually |
| 12:55.49 | Shadowclaimer | actually |
| 12:55.54 | Shadowclaimer | Austria was annexed into Germany in 1938.. |
| 12:56.03 | Xan | also italy had operations in africa |
| 12:56.06 | Shadowclaimer | and wasn't a nation again till 1945 |
| 12:56.23 | Xan | well yea, hungary was too |
| 12:56.31 | Shadowclaimer | hungary was invaded =p |
| 12:56.38 | Shadowclaimer | wait nvm |
| 12:56.39 | Shadowclaimer | they joined the Axis |
| 12:56.55 | Shadowclaimer | oh wow Hungary lol |
| 12:57.13 | Shadowclaimer | apparently they joined the Axis trying to avoid conflict, made secret peace deals with the Allies, Hitler caught them, kdinapped the king's son, Hungary signed a peace treaty with Russia |
| 12:57.17 | Xan | czechoslovakia belonged to hungary too I think |
| 12:57.30 | Xan | and parts of romania |
| 12:57.57 | Shadowclaimer | wait I already have Hungary on htere.. |
| 12:57.59 | Shadowclaimer | so I can leave Greece |
| 12:58.15 | Rectifier | are you making a ww2 map or something? |
| 12:58.27 | Shadowclaimer | yea |
| 12:58.40 | Rectifier | cool |
| 12:58.46 | Xan | you need liechtenstein as a player controlled country |
| 12:58.47 | Shadowclaimer | I figure Greece is a nice key to the Mediterranean though |
| 12:58.48 | Xan | :D |
| 12:59.04 | Rectifier | aka: operation market garden? |
| 12:59.12 | Shadowclaimer | basically |
| 12:59.20 | Xan | cyprus would be UK-controlled btw? |
| 12:59.23 | Shadowclaimer | if I can make Player 0 have allies and enemies |
| 12:59.51 | Shadowclaimer | I can make it so that the Neutral player will remain Neutral unless attacked, then global neutral players will respond hostilly to that player |
| 13:00.32 | Rectifier | so if greece was neutral and attacked by player 1; then switzerland would also turn hostile? |
| 13:00.41 | Xan | what about malta? |
| 13:00.45 | Shadowclaimer | essentialyl its the best I can do Rect |
| 13:00.57 | Rectifier | :s |
| 13:01.03 | Shadowclaimer | unless they remain permaneutral |
| 13:01.12 | Shadowclaimer | or neutral hostile to everyone |
| 13:01.13 | Clord | took while but now entire map is watered |
| 13:01.19 | Clord | time to start doing continents ^^ |
| 13:01.21 | Xan | Shadowclaimer: you can make units who are attacked attakc back |
| 13:01.26 | Shadowclaimer | I can? |
| 13:01.26 | Xan | without unallying |
| 13:01.30 | Shadowclaimer | sweet |
| 13:01.33 | Xan | well with triggers |
| 13:01.42 | Shadowclaimer | ah figured |
| 13:01.46 | Rectifier | you could make the neutral territories like client countries that give tribute too >.> |
| 13:01.48 | Shadowclaimer | Unit attacekd, order unit to attack attacking unit |
| 13:01.50 | Xan | but it would be worth it |
| 13:02.06 | Shadowclaimer | condition: controller of attacked unit is player 0 |
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| 13:02.15 | Shadowclaimer | yea that's what I'll do |
| 13:02.18 | Xan | Shadowclaimer: would malta and cyprus be UK controlled at the start? |
| 13:02.37 | Shadowclaimer | I don't know exactly, I'll have a town on each of them, mgiht make htem controlled (not much room on the UK's island for many cities) |
| 13:02.55 | Rectifier | i might have to do that unit attacks if attacked trigger for the neutral force on my map too |
| 13:03.28 | Rectifier | or just make the commoners run >.> |
| 13:03.48 | Xan | the neutral countries would defend themselves if attacked for sure |
| 13:04.07 | Rectifier | or surrender and join |
| 13:04.41 | Xan | switzerland and sweden did have a decent army actually, they just wanted to remain neutral |
| 13:04.52 | Shadowclaimer | yea thats the hope |
| 13:05.00 | Shadowclaimer | I don't want them to be free land grabs |
| 13:05.08 | Xan | or - you could make them join the opposition if they are attacked |
| 13:05.08 | Xan | :P |
| 13:05.20 | Xan | would really make players think twice |
| 13:05.49 | Rectifier | well realistically, if a neutral country's army is wiped out...it would probably join rather than be annihilated |
| 13:06.04 | Xan | or it would join the opposition to help them |
| 13:06.13 | Xan | like finland joined with germany to fight back the soviet |
| 13:06.32 | Xan | and norway joined with the allies |
| 13:07.05 | Rectifier | or they start a civilian resistance (la revolution) |
| 13:07.19 | Xan | well yeah if they get completely taken over |
| 13:07.38 | Xan | but while they still have a government they would most likely ask for help from other countries |
| 13:07.41 | Shadowclaimer | bleh I think I'll make the trigger convert all units around the city to Neutral Hostile temporarily |
| 13:07.50 | Shadowclaimer | then when they go idle it'd change them to neutral passive again |
| 13:08.22 | Xan | what if some other country has placed units close to there though? |
| 13:08.26 | Xan | they would attack them for no reason |
| 13:08.27 | Xan | :p |
| 13:08.32 | Rectifier | maps with limited extra forces can be hard to make :/ |
| 13:09.01 | Shadowclaimer | then they'd just be unlucky, I expect neutral countries to disappear fast honsetly |
| 13:09.04 | Shadowclaimer | its a diplomacy map |
| 13:09.20 | Xan | in that case, make sweden have a huge army to crush all invaders |
| 13:09.20 | Xan | :P |
| 13:09.37 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 13:10.00 | Rectifier | fail. |
| 13:11.50 | Shadowclaimer | trigger works |
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| 13:12.16 | Shadowclaimer | if you attack a neutral city all nearby units become hostile to you and will attack you, if you leave htem alone long enough they'll go back to passive |
| 13:12.45 | Xan | cant you just make the attacked units (and other units in a radius) defend themselves from that player? |
| 13:12.53 | Rectifier | making icons is kind of a chore -.- |
| 13:12.58 | Xan | like the neutral player in starcraft |
| 13:13.00 | Xan | 1 |
| 13:14.19 | Xan | hmm is it really not possible to have more computer players? even if the player-limit is 12? |
| 13:14.38 | Shadowclaimer | you can have 2 computer players |
| 13:15.14 | Xan | I thought 4 |
| 13:15.21 | Xan | player 0, 13, 14, 15 |
| 13:15.25 | Shadowclaimer | err counting 0 and 15 4 |
| 13:15.44 | Xan | so that would be 4 countries you could have |
| 13:15.50 | Xan | switzerland and sweden 2 of those |
| 13:16.08 | Xan | you could set the alliance state if someone attacks them |
| 13:16.13 | Xan | then they wouldnt be hostile to everybody |
| 13:16.54 | Xan | you can set player 0 to computer instead of neutral and it would react like any other player slot |
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| 13:21.42 | Shadowclaimer | btw as a safe measure |
| 13:21.56 | Shadowclaimer | well actually nvm |
| 13:22.04 | Xan | what |
| 13:22.25 | Shadowclaimer | was going to say I'm going to implemetn a chat string detector and if any player says anything related to killing jews all their units explode and they get a special defeat message |
| 13:22.46 | Shadowclaimer | because I know I'll get a couple of douchebags who do it |
| 13:22.51 | Shadowclaimer | and the rest of the game can laugh at them |
| 13:24.18 | Rectifier | what if they talk about jews without talking about killing them, etc. and the system boots them? or if they say things like j.ews? |
| 13:24.41 | Shadowclaimer | jews and kill have to be in the chat string |
| 13:25.01 | Shadowclaimer | and I'll remove any punctuation, and include a variety of "around the censor" versions |
| 13:25.09 | Shadowclaimer | it'll be a one trick pony really |
| 13:25.14 | Shadowclaimer | just one of those "oh shit he really did explode" |
| 13:25.16 | Shadowclaimer | kinda things |
| 13:25.31 | Rectifier | heh. |
| 13:25.48 | Rectifier | is there a function to stop single player cheats? |
| 13:27.17 | Shadowclaimer | I assume so |
| 13:27.59 | Rectifier | i don't want people giving themselves a million gold in single player >.< |
| 13:30.22 | Shadowclaimer | FINALLY |
| 13:30.28 | Shadowclaimer | I found a fucking infantry for the italians! |
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| 13:31.45 | Shadowclaimer | X Reggimento "Arditi" |
| 13:33.23 | Dest1ny | how do u add new structure for scv to build? |
| 13:33.53 | Dest1ny | anyone knows? i made a dup a copy of ability scv build |
| 13:34.12 | Shadowclaimer | edit the Info bit on the BUild Ability |
| 13:34.26 | Dest1ny | but cant seem to find a way to remove and add structure in the ability |
| 13:34.40 | Dest1ny | ah got it |
| 13:34.41 | Dest1ny | thanks |
| 13:38.19 | Shadowclaimer | np took me forever |
| 13:38.26 | Shadowclaimer | there's also a scroll bar on that window of options, took me an hour to find it |
| 13:40.32 | Beider | Rectifier: just check the players minerals constantly and look for any huge gains, if they gain more than should be possible in a short amount of time they cheated |
| 13:41.28 | Beider | or add your own custom resource and use that instead of minerals |
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| 13:42.16 | Cerebral | Hey guys I have a data editor question. |
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| 13:42.26 | Rectifier | i think it would be easier to just disable single player cheats |
| 13:42.52 | Beider | Rectifier, yes it would, but do you know how to do that? |
| 13:43.12 | Beider | At least in WC3 there was no command as far as I know to disable it |
| 13:43.23 | Cerebral | I want to enable the range indicator for a new unit. Such as the one that is displayed when you click on a siege tank. Anyone know where I can find that option? |
| 13:43.36 | Beider | look on the siege tank? |
| 13:43.47 | Cerebral | I have, but I assume I am blind |
| 13:46.33 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 13:46.39 | Shadowclaimer | I assume that about myself all day long |
| 13:46.54 | Cerebral | Well without my glasses I'm mostly blind anyways. |
| 13:47.47 | Cerebral | I've been looking over the siege tank fields for awhile now. Both for the unit and the weapon. Can't find a single option that will show the range indicator |
| 13:48.28 | Cerebral | So etheir I'm looking over it, or it is located somewhere else. I was hoping someone on here would know right away what I am talking about. :P |
| 13:48.38 | pkol | what are records? |
| 13:48.41 | pkol | in the editor? |
| 13:48.53 | pkol | trigger |
| 13:49.31 | Beider | the photon cannon also has that range thing doesn't it? |
| 13:49.41 | Cerebral | Sure does |
| 13:49.43 | Beider | on placement at least |
| 13:51.12 | Cerebral | I've been recreating the lurker, I really want to be able to display it's range radius |
| 13:53.12 | Cerebral | I'm wondering if it's the same flag for the sensor tower |
| 13:53.20 | Cerebral | same graphic atleast |
| 13:53.46 | Clord | that range display thing would be very useful for turn based gridless map |
| 13:53.59 | Clord | to see how much unit can move if there is no obstacle |
| 13:53.59 | Clord | lol |
| 13:54.47 | Beider | yeah |
| 13:54.49 | Beider | seems to be an actor |
| 13:55.05 | Shadowclaimer | Oh yea it is an actor |
| 13:55.07 | Beider | If you look at sensor tower, siege tank and photon cannon |
| 13:55.10 | Shadowclaimer | because the sensor tower has an identical one |
| 13:55.13 | Shadowclaimer | dammit beat me by seconds |
| 13:55.15 | Beider | there is an actor with "Range" in the name |
| 13:55.21 | Beider | :P |
| 13:55.26 | Beider | it's of type range |
| 13:55.30 | Beider | so try cloning up once of those |
| 13:55.36 | Cerebral | holy crap thanks, I'll look into that further |
| 13:55.40 | Cerebral | kudos |
| 13:56.38 | Rectifier | theres a range field in the weapons section |
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| 13:57.01 | Beider | yeah but that is just the range of the weapon |
| 13:57.16 | Beider | However you can add a Range actor with type RangeWeapon |
| 13:57.20 | Beider | and link that to the weapon |
| 13:57.26 | Beider | it looks to be fairly simple |
| 13:57.28 | Rectifier | heh, clever |
| 13:58.01 | Cerebral | Yup, thanks alot. I need to go get some coffee, should have checked actors sooner, again thanks. =) |
| 13:58.31 | Clord | midgar, junon etc placed.... my map is progressing =) |
| 13:58.41 | Clord | junon is based to planetary fortress |
| 14:00.19 | Clord | from marine I get "shinra soldier" lol |
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| 14:02.29 | pkol | has anyone figured how records in the trig editor? |
| 14:02.31 | pkol | gui |
| 14:03.07 | Shadowclaimer | Finally.. done with most of the national units |
| 14:03.07 | Cerebral | Yeah, it was a simple as cloning the actor and attaching my weapon to it. =D |
| 14:03.09 | Shadowclaimer | except Norway |
| 14:03.18 | Azu | sadface |
| 14:05.55 | Xan | what does soviet have? |
| 14:07.40 | Shadowclaimer | USSR - T-55 Battle Tank (Heavy Tank), Red Guard (Rifleman) |
| 14:08.11 | Shadowclaimer | what about an Osvald Saboteur |
| 14:08.15 | Shadowclaimer | for the NOrwegians |
| 14:08.23 | Xan | or |
| 14:08.24 | Xan | fisherman |
| 14:08.32 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 14:08.55 | Xan | mountaineer |
| 14:08.56 | Xan | ^^ |
| 14:09.12 | Shadowclaimer | Waht would be a good norwegian word for saboteur? |
| 14:09.18 | Shadowclaimer | like in reference to a really damn good one |
| 14:09.25 | Xan | err |
| 14:09.52 | Xan | sabotör, probably (or sabotør even) |
| 14:10.01 | Xan | but that means exactly the same as the english word |
| 14:10.13 | Shadowclaimer | yea thats what i was afraid of |
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| 16:04.38 | *** topic/#sc2mapster is #sc2mapster http://sc2mapster.com/ | Report Triggers/Data that makes the game crash on the forums! | SC2 Release Date 7/27 |
| 16:04.49 | depthsofchaos | so the numbers are always from 1 without gaps? |
| 16:04.55 | depthsofchaos | i mean players |
| 16:05.11 | Clord | lol simple like that =) |
| 16:05.25 | mikelat | btw do we know what the official player limit is yet? I know there's like 16 slots but it can't be 16 player game... |
| 16:05.39 | Tehwildcard | 12 |
| 16:05.46 | mikelat | alright |
| 16:05.52 | Clord | blizzard... they don't probably reveal anything from it and instead bring out patch and we see ourselves |
| 16:06.14 | Clord | but currently we expect it to be 12 |
| 16:07.25 | Rodoe | question; what's the deal with the model (build)? why doesn't it show any animation when under construction? ;P |
| 16:09.03 | depthsofchaos | take a look at warp-in |
| 16:09.28 | Rodoe | thanks |
| 16:09.29 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/temple-defense-my-life-executor/. Temple Defense; My Life As An Executor. rpc190 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 16:09.40 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/multitasking-trainer/. Multitasking Trainer. stettcl (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
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| 16:34.31 | Paras1te | I attach video of my WIP map. As always - opinions pl0x |
| 16:34.31 | Paras1te | http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=raz05w&s=5 |
| 16:34.51 | Zaratulius | how can i run map as a 2 player? |
| 16:34.56 | Arthas-stuffs | how does one enable visa to function through paypal |
| 16:35.01 | Arthas-stuffs | stupid ass visa security |
| 16:35.47 | Azu | 18:34 Zaratulius • how can i run map as a 2 player? | via bnet? |
| 16:35.50 | Azu | :o |
| 16:36.10 | Azu | Paras1te seems cool :o |
| 16:36.11 | Arthas-stuffs | WTF IS VERIFIED BY VISA |
| 16:36.13 | Arthas-stuffs | Jesus |
| 16:36.28 | Arthas-stuffs | Greetings phrase and password..... |
| 16:36.40 | Zaratulius | i just run my custom map as a second player to test it |
| 16:36.41 | Paras1te | Thanks for watching :) |
| 16:36.50 | Zaratulius | *want to run |
| 16:36.57 | Azu | :p |
| 16:36.58 | depthsofchaos | ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xC0000005) |
| 16:37.00 | depthsofchaos | occurred at 001B:00B4A83D. The memory at '0x0000001D' could not be read. |
| 16:37.01 | Shuuffle | then load it on b.net |
| 16:37.06 | depthsofchaos | this is what i get when i run multiplayer |
| 16:37.10 | Azu | ;< |
| 16:37.12 | Shuuffle | I guess that wouldn't work |
| 16:37.19 | depthsofchaos | but works in single :o |
| 16:38.10 | Azu | Paras1te get 2 players on your map now! |
| 16:38.10 | Azu | :p |
| 16:39.04 | Paras1te | ASAP =D |
| 16:39.10 | Azu | :p |
| 16:39.15 | Azu | hm |
| 16:39.22 | Zaratulius | so next question how to load my map on bnet? :D |
| 16:39.27 | Azu | can you have us and eu sc2 installed at the same time? |
| 16:39.32 | Azu | Zaratulius get mapcraft |
| 16:40.07 | Shuuffle | Haha Paras1te, is that a card game? |
| 16:40.58 | Paras1te | Lol, yes |
| 16:41.04 | Shuuffle | Love it |
| 16:41.17 | Paras1te | So I luv u :D |
| 16:41.46 | Shuuffle | Wanna make out? |
| 16:41.59 | Vailreth | where did you get the idea for an rts card game? |
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| 16:42.14 | Paras1te | Would like, but have to work on map :< |
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| 16:42.32 | Azu | gives cookies to Paras1te KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! |
| 16:42.45 | Clord | cards for units and structures is not really new thing... ^^ |
| 16:42.59 | Ousnius | hi |
| 16:43.05 | Paras1te | I didnt say it is |
| 16:43.15 | Vailreth | i know its not ihad the idea my self .... two years a go in game development class |
| 16:43.32 | Shuuffle | Card games aren't new, duh. BUT |
| 16:43.38 | Shuuffle | It looks sweet, what you have so far |
| 16:43.44 | Shuuffle | That's all that matters imo |
| 16:43.44 | Clord | awesome visual aproach |
| 16:43.53 | Vailreth | it really looks great |
| 16:44.02 | Azu | y |
| 16:44.03 | Zaratulius | thx Azu i will get it in a sec |
| 16:44.08 | Paras1te | All templates are temporary |
| 16:44.17 | Paras1te | Just to help me test all the systems |
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| 16:44.47 | Clord | lol... I think that is enough good already |
| 16:44.58 | Clord | otherwise it becomes too flashy or something |
| 16:45.04 | Azu | lols |
| 16:45.22 | Paras1te | Thanks for opinions =D All of you make me want to work on this map non stop |
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| 16:45.44 | Azu | :D |
| 16:45.52 | Azu | ill supply you with cookies |
| 16:45.53 | Azu | np |
| 16:46.02 | Vailreth | the triggering for that must be sooo complex.... |
| 16:46.06 | Ignorance | heeeey guys |
| 16:46.09 | Azu | or swedish meatballs, your choice |
| 16:46.13 | Ignorance | For what? Baneling busters? ;) |
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| 16:46.26 | Paras1te | Vailreth: Unfortunately it is ;/ |
| 16:46.54 | Clord | you might want to consider optional toggle for those... show siege tanks going to line and shoot thing |
| 16:47.04 | Clord | someone might want keep focus in battle |
| 16:47.04 | Clord | lol |
| 16:47.06 | Bifuu | Hola amigos |
| 16:47.37 | Vailreth | hello Bifuu tanks for the aura tutorial |
| 16:48.09 | Paras1te | Clord: But this "scenes" pauses whole battlefield |
| 16:48.15 | Clord | okay then |
| 16:48.17 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:48.19 | Clord | then it is fine |
| 16:48.23 | Paras1te | But SKIP would be fine |
| 16:48.52 | Bifuu | np Vailreth, glad you liked it |
| 16:48.52 | Azu | well |
| 16:48.52 | Clord | just don't tell me those cards are made with dialogs |
| 16:48.53 | Clord | lol |
| 16:48.55 | Azu | it looks awesome :p |
| 16:49.08 | Azu | "cutscene" |
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| 16:49.24 | Paras1te | You know... I love dialogs =D |
| 16:49.37 | Clord | awesome choice to use dialogs |
| 16:50.21 | Clord | blizzard could spend years to make game making tool |
| 16:50.23 | Clord | XD |
| 16:50.51 | Azu | :P |
| 16:51.04 | Azu | "no maps included, make your own" |
| 16:51.38 | Clord | more like those... gives tons of stuff and you compile game |
| 16:51.48 | Clord | different settings like fantasy.. ogres etc |
| 16:51.54 | Azu | you need linux to compile the game |
| 16:52.26 | Arthas-stuffs | lucky me |
| 16:52.29 | Clord | or you know.. make game making tools what compile for windows ;) |
| 16:52.34 | Arthas-stuffs | you can rent my hyarions linux cluster for like |
| 16:52.36 | Clord | like usually is done |
| 16:52.39 | Arthas-stuffs | 50 bucks / hour |
| 16:52.40 | Arthas-stuffs | ! |
| 16:53.00 | Azu | :x |
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| 16:53.09 | Clord | lol there is even rpg maker 3 aka 3d rpg maker aka awesome |
| 16:53.10 | Clord | lol |
| 16:53.15 | Azu | Arthas-stuffs stop stuffing stuff |
| 16:53.17 | Clord | too bad it is for consoles |
| 16:53.18 | Arthas-stuffs | rpg maker 2000 |
| 16:53.24 | Arthas-stuffs | i never stop stuffing stuff |
| 16:53.27 | Arthas-stuffs | it makes me horny! |
| 16:53.30 | Azu | ;< |
| 16:53.35 | Mugumaster | Does anyone know how to make a global wheater effect ? |
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| 16:53.47 | Arthas-stop-hamm | well, you should know what i re-nicked as :p |
| 16:53.50 | Arthas-stop-hamm | Ingela |
| 16:53.51 | Vailreth | i am planing on making Aura Towers they may go into my Hugemod file ... |
| 16:53.54 | Arthas-stop-hamm | wanna play now? |
| 16:53.57 | Arthas-stop-hamm | :( |
| 16:54.17 | Clord | I have not yet tried that mod option in editor |
| 16:54.24 | Clord | but it is supposed to make large projects easier |
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| 16:54.37 | Mugumaster | Does anyone know how to make a global wheater effect ? |
| 16:54.50 | Arthas-stop-hamm | Havent looked at the mod thingie |
| 16:54.54 | Arthas-stop-hamm | but isnt the mod thing like in wc3 |
| 16:55.06 | Arthas-stop-hamm | ie, the modfile held all unit data, core triggers |
| 16:55.16 | Arthas-stop-hamm | then the maps themselves used data from the mod |
| 16:55.37 | Clord | yeah it is for campaign stuff |
| 16:55.50 | Clord | not sure if they support multiplayer campaigns but probably not |
| 16:55.51 | Clord | lol |
| 16:55.53 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 16:55.59 | Arthas-stop-hamm | i hoped |
| 16:56.01 | Arthas-stop-hamm | uhm btw |
| 16:56.25 | Arthas-stop-hamm | blizzard said they would implement "globe-ish" maps |
| 16:56.32 | Arthas-stop-hamm | where you leave east and enter west |
| 16:56.35 | Arthas-stop-hamm | is that in yet |
| 16:56.45 | Clord | I think there is trigger for enable that |
| 16:56.46 | Arthas-stop-hamm | and im not talking about triggers that move you |
| 16:56.59 | Arthas-stop-hamm | im talking about being able to stand on west side, fire a unit on the east |
| 16:57.10 | Clord | hehe well.... it is enabled via trigger |
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| 16:57.16 | Arthas-stop-hamm | aight |
| 16:57.24 | Arthas-stop-hamm | also, did someone check the planets thing out yet |
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| 16:57.54 | Azu | hm |
| 16:58.06 | Clord | that is campaign only stuff |
| 16:58.08 | Azu | need to go to ica and get some more cokz |
| 16:58.09 | Clord | XD |
| 16:58.14 | Arthas-stop-hamm | azu |
| 16:58.15 | Arthas-stop-hamm | bring me sum |
| 16:58.19 | Arthas-stop-hamm | pretty please |
| 16:58.23 | Azu | hm |
| 16:58.24 | Azu | mb ;) |
| 16:58.27 | Zaratulius | i have problem with using Map Craft i'm doing: Launtch game, Crate game on Lost Temple map, Launtch Map Craft, Chose my map in map craft, Swap, Go back to Game nad Start Game... What i'm doing wrong? |
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| 16:58.40 | Clord | those planet related triggers has something to do with that map thing between their campaign maps |
| 16:58.46 | Clord | where you do stuff like travel |
| 16:58.55 | Azu | Zaratulius should be like that :s |
| 16:59.15 | Azu | host lost temple, swap, start |
| 16:59.16 | Clord | both must apply patch for map |
| 16:59.18 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:59.36 | Zaratulius | But i'm playing alone ;p |
| 16:59.41 | Clord | also both need to be already in map room before doing it |
| 17:00.11 | Zaratulius | yes i'm in map room before swaping |
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| 17:00.40 | vjeux | hey :) |
| 17:00.45 | Azu | yo |
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| 17:00.48 | Arthas-stop-hamm | quiet you all |
| 17:00.50 | Arthas-stop-hamm | its the french! |
| 17:00.53 | Arthas-stop-hamm | they are invading us :( |
| 17:01.02 | vjeux | hmm ... :p |
| 17:01.07 | Azu | no coke to the invading people ;< |
| 17:01.14 | Arthas-stop-hamm | tru dat |
| 17:01.18 | Zaratulius | As usual something don't work so lets start by restarting comp :P |
| 17:02.21 | Arthas- | question |
| 17:02.27 | vjeux | well, you are invading this irc! |
| 17:02.28 | Mugumaster | Does anyone know how to make a global wheater effect ? |
| 17:02.33 | Azu | pfft |
| 17:02.34 | Arthas- | did anyone get the ocarina of time zelda model to work? |
| 17:02.41 | Arthas- | vjeux Ive been around since the dawn of time |
| 17:02.42 | Arthas- | :p |
| 17:02.59 | Azu | damn |
| 17:03.04 | Azu | you must be pretty old then |
| 17:03.08 | Arthas- | I am |
| 17:03.17 | Arthas- | like 14 y old |
| 17:03.18 | Arthas- | ! |
| 17:03.26 | Azu | :O |
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| 17:03.47 | Azu | dawn of time was 14years ago.. does not seem right >< |
| 17:03.48 | pierro__ | hi |
| 17:03.55 | Arthas- | azu |
| 17:03.56 | Arthas- | the truth is |
| 17:04.02 | Arthas- | this world, its just an illusion |
| 17:04.05 | Azu | aah |
| 17:04.08 | Azu | that makes sense |
| 17:04.23 | vjeux | ok, Arthas- you definitevly are 14 years old :p |
| 17:04.29 | Arthas- | ty! |
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| 17:04.58 | Arthas- | ah well |
| 17:04.58 | vjeux | Mugumaster: does not seem so |
| 17:05.05 | Arthas- | vjeux, lets have a quick look at wiki shall we |
| 17:05.14 | vjeux | i'm sure if you ask again in about 30 min someone will be able to answer you :) |
| 17:05.31 | Arthas- | global weather eh? |
| 17:05.37 | vjeux | sure |
| 17:05.48 | Arthas- | swapping chan |
| 17:06.08 | Shuuffle | Heh I totally just stuck the Hyperion/Planet thing in a map |
| 17:06.15 | Shuuffle | just because it looks cool |
| 17:06.19 | Azu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt9IM68u-jY nice recommend |
| 17:06.23 | Azu | ops |
| 17:06.26 | Azu | http://i41.tinypic.com/25jihvp.jpg * |
| 17:07.49 | Azu | gah |
| 17:07.59 | Azu | youtube refuses to stay eng for me ;_; |
| 17:11.52 | hyarion | Arthas-: zzup? |
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| 17:12.54 | Dustin | :O |
| 17:14.12 | Altharaz | If we put more than one event in the Events section of a trigger, does it count like an AND-Gate or an OR-Gate? |
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| 17:14.24 | Arthas- | or |
| 17:14.38 | Arthas- | hows that for response time! |
| 17:14.43 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 17:14.50 | Arthas- | hyarion not much |
| 17:15.00 | Arthas- | got home from a short lab |
| 17:15.10 | Altharaz | thank you |
| 17:15.25 | Altharaz | and in conditions? if i put more than one condition? |
| 17:15.32 | Altharaz | will it be like OR or AND? |
| 17:15.35 | Alpha_vst | its or |
| 17:15.37 | Shuuffle | probably and |
| 17:15.39 | Arthas- | and |
| 17:15.40 | Altharaz | LOL |
| 17:15.42 | Shuuffle | OR!? |
| 17:15.42 | Alpha_vst | unless you set it to be |
| 17:15.44 | Arthas- | unless you state otherwise |
| 17:15.48 | Arthas- | or for events |
| 17:15.50 | Arthas- | and for conditions |
| 17:16.03 | Shuuffle | phew |
| 17:16.09 | Altharaz | okay thank you |
| 17:16.10 | Altharaz | ^^ |
| 17:16.12 | Arthas- | np |
| 17:16.18 | Altharaz | oh i forgot |
| 17:16.32 | Altharaz | i have a project: make an adaptation of Warhammer 40 000 with the editor |
| 17:16.38 | vjeux | nice |
| 17:16.39 | Altharaz | and i would like to make something like each turn |
| 17:16.42 | Shuuffle | It wouldn't be too hard probably |
| 17:16.47 | Altharaz | each unit can move only for 6 inches |
| 17:16.55 | Arthas- | when will someone make a mech warrior clone ffs |
| 17:16.56 | Arthas- | HURRU |
| 17:16.57 | Altharaz | how can i make this kind of limit? |
| 17:16.58 | Arthas- | HURRY* |
| 17:16.59 | Arthas- | :D |
| 17:17.00 | Shuuffle | Oh like the board/figure game |
| 17:17.03 | Shuuffle | I was thinking like DoW |
| 17:17.08 | Altharaz | yes Shuuffle |
| 17:17.15 | Altharaz | no, like the board/figure game ^^ |
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| 17:17.26 | Altharaz | i will make huge matrix with the values from the original board game |
| 17:17.30 | Alpha_vst | which starcraft is sorta based on :P |
| 17:17.33 | Altharaz | i think adapting fights will not be hard |
| 17:17.43 | Zaratulius | is there any visible change on lobby screen when i use MapCraft? |
| 17:18.01 | Altharaz | but how may i make something to make units able to move only 6 inches each turn? |
| 17:18.10 | Dustin | Zaratulius, no |
| 17:18.28 | Zaratulius | So no way to chceck it |
| 17:18.31 | Zaratulius | ehh |
| 17:18.42 | Dustin | When you start itll use the maps loading screen |
| 17:18.44 | Dustin | So you can check then |
| 17:19.25 | Altharaz | i thought to make a lot of areas, each area representing one square of one inch/one inch |
| 17:19.26 | Zaratulius | do i need to set some settings like melee or smth? |
| 17:20.29 | Alpha_vst | Altharaz you probably have to set a trigger so that if a unit moves it takes away from some sort of variable and once it runs out set the units move to 0 |
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| 17:21.39 | Altharaz | Alpha_vst, yeah you're right, it would be easier... But if i do this, i would need to draw each time something like a circle, which would represent the maximum movement allowed |
| 17:21.56 | Altharaz | do you know how to make this kind of circle? |
| 17:22.34 | Alpha_vst | place a unit with the siege tank siege mode circle |
| 17:22.58 | Altharaz | and it's in the property of the unit? |
| 17:23.04 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 17:23.23 | Alpha_vst | its going to be a lot of work but its possible |
| 17:23.38 | Alpha_vst | http://i40.tinypic.com/1z1aec7.jpg i did this last night... |
| 17:23.58 | Altharaz | and how? |
| 17:24.53 | Mugumaster | Does anyone know how to make a global Weathereffect like Rain for the whole map instead of placing over 9000 Rain Doodads all over the map ? |
| 17:25.03 | NeoDeathXp | coool |
| 17:25.57 | Arthas- | ok |
| 17:25.58 | Arthas- | Mugumaster |
| 17:26.04 | Arthas- | did some testing |
| 17:26.07 | Mugumaster | and ? |
| 17:26.11 | Alpha_vst | its under actors search for range... |
| 17:26.11 | Arthas- | I didnt try sizing the rain up |
| 17:26.19 | Arthas- | iirc someone said it scaled it t obecome ugly |
| 17:26.21 | Mugumaster | if you do that, you get HUGE raindrops :P |
| 17:26.23 | Arthas- | but if it is an rpg or something |
| 17:26.30 | Arthas- | Actor - Attach Rain Emitter Medium to Origin on Zealot [62.42, 62.83] |
| 17:26.31 | Arthas- | use that |
| 17:26.39 | Alpha_vst | i was only able to modify what unit it was on not create a new one for a unit so good luck with that |
| 17:26.42 | Arthas- | it follows the unit everywhere |
| 17:26.52 | Mugumaster | yeah ... but i have a TD |
| 17:26.58 | Mugumaster | so i cant really use that :/ |
| 17:27.03 | Arthas- | then place emitters on the map |
| 17:27.07 | Arthas- | group em |
| 17:27.12 | Arthas- | and kill the rain when you dont wanna use it |
| 17:27.13 | Mugumaster | group ? |
| 17:27.14 | Alpha_vst | mugumaster in the editor press v and you can see the rain so you can place it |
| 17:27.18 | Arthas- | if thats possible |
| 17:27.23 | Mugumaster | kk |
| 17:27.25 | Arthas- | should be |
| 17:27.31 | Mugumaster | guess I have to spam the rain emitters |
| 17:27.40 | Mugumaster | but won't that slow down the map? |
| 17:27.52 | Arthas- | doubt it |
| 17:28.14 | Arthas- | but wont say for sure! :D |
| 17:29.27 | Mugumaster | omg im so stupid ... |
| 17:29.34 | Mugumaster | putting 1 rain emitter medium on the map |
| 17:29.35 | Mugumaster | IS GLOBAL |
| 17:29.38 | Mugumaster | lol |
| 17:29.50 | Mugumaster | put it anywhere and you got rain all over the place |
| 17:29.51 | Mugumaster | lol |
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| 17:30.04 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:30.09 | Mugumaster | i tried to solve it with triggers like in WC3 :/ |
| 17:30.20 | Alpha_vst | its ok :D |
| 17:32.04 | Grum | what is currently the best implemented WASD movement library? |
| 17:32.18 | NeoDeathXp | i created my own |
| 17:32.25 | NeoDeathXp | because they all suck |
| 17:32.28 | Grum | available? |
| 17:32.36 | Altharaz | thank you for tips Alpha_vst ;-) i will try it after |
| 17:32.46 | Grum | and NeoDeathXp: that is what i am seeing right now as well |
| 17:32.54 | Grum | they use all kinds of bloatcode to get something trivially done |
| 17:33.07 | NeoDeathXp | yeah |
| 17:33.55 | NeoDeathXp | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.57 | NeoDeathXp | this |
| 17:34.12 | NeoDeathXp | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.26 | NeoDeathXp | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.43 | NeoDeathXp | that is the whole system |
| 17:34.55 | NeoDeathXp | add keybinds, win. |
| 17:35.05 | Grum | and then you use AD to change the facing |
| 17:35.13 | Grum | each time you see it 'pressed' |
| 17:35.16 | Dustin | +10 is a bit much |
| 17:35.22 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 17:35.24 | Dustin | then you're gonna run into problems with pathing |
| 17:35.31 | Dustin | Cause it's checking to far away |
| 17:35.32 | NeoDeathXp | no |
| 17:35.32 | Arthas- | and how does that work if i want the unit to move south on down arrow |
| 17:35.35 | Arthas- | and north on up arrow |
| 17:35.36 | Arthas- | :p |
| 17:35.42 | Grum | it doesnt Arthas- |
| 17:35.47 | Grum | meh i think i need to make a proper library |
| 17:35.49 | NeoDeathXp | thats left arrow |
| 17:36.04 | NeoDeathXp | 10 is the degree |
| 17:36.07 | NeoDeathXp | of the turn |
| 17:36.10 | Arthas- | ya |
| 17:36.22 | Dustin | No it's not it's the offset |
| 17:36.23 | Arthas- | just not after unit oriented controls atm ^^ |
| 17:36.25 | Azu | nom coke |
| 17:36.28 | Dustin | Ohh |
| 17:36.32 | Dustin | I see |
| 17:36.33 | NeoDeathXp | the oerd Offset with the capital O is the variable for the move witch is set to 1 |
| 17:36.37 | Dustin | Offset there is a var |
| 17:36.38 | Dustin | Got it |
| 17:37.02 | NeoDeathXp | works beautifly |
| 17:37.33 | NeoDeathXp | altho "s" is a pain in the ass |
| 17:37.35 | Arthas- | hatis work ok for now |
| 17:37.54 | NeoDeathXp | no good way to move backwords |
| 17:38.23 | Arthas- | cant you lock a units facing? |
| 17:38.38 | Arthas- | unless you want him to turn :p |
| 17:38.46 | NeoDeathXp | i just set the degree of the turn to 40 |
| 17:38.49 | NeoDeathXp | for s |
| 17:39.03 | Alpha_vst | sex |
| 17:39.09 | Alpha_vst | y |
| 17:39.38 | Dustin | Really what needs to be done is a custom movement system |
| 17:39.45 | Dustin | instead of ordeing the unit to move |
| 17:40.08 | Alpha_vst | go for it |
| 17:40.19 | NeoDeathXp | world of starcraft had a teleport system |
| 17:40.20 | Dustin | Just check for collision before the move then move the unit towards the angle and play the walk animation |
| 17:40.32 | Shuuffle | Yeah but honestly, is any movement by keystroke system going to work for multiplayer |
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| 17:40.45 | Arthas- | dustin could be worth a check |
| 17:40.46 | Shuuffle | There's a horribly delay |
| 17:40.50 | Shuuffle | horrible* |
| 17:40.50 | Arthas- | but unit might end upp staggering |
| 17:41.02 | Dustin | Its in my map right now and the Latentcy from bnet is pretty bad |
| 17:41.03 | Arthas- | and it might be a pain in multiplayer? |
| 17:41.06 | Dustin | It's playable but barely |
| 17:41.19 | Vailreth | does any one know how to get the Raven's Build ability to build other things? |
| 17:41.27 | NeoDeathXp | i dunno my sustem is very simple |
| 17:41.50 | NeoDeathXp | and its all contained in a single trigger |
| 17:41.51 | Alpha_vst | yeah change the ability to make a diffrent unit vailreth :P |
| 17:41.58 | Shuuffle | It's not the issue though |
| 17:42.09 | Shuuffle | The reaction time of when you hit the key to when it moves is the issue |
| 17:42.10 | Vailreth | its not that simple when i do the it craches |
| 17:42.21 | Vailreth | crashes the game hem |
| 17:42.37 | NeoDeathXp | set it to game time |
| 17:42.40 | NeoDeathXp | not real time |
| 17:42.50 | Arthas- | Vailreth presents - Crash game, who can reach the raven first and crash the game for everyone? |
| 17:42.53 | NeoDeathXp | and it will work even if there is lag |
| 17:43.01 | Arthas- | Featuring units such as Marine, Zealot and Baneling! |
| 17:43.08 | Shuuffle | I didn't say it wouldn't work, I'm saying it's going to lag |
| 17:43.10 | Mugumaster | i love that game :D |
| 17:43.13 | Arthas- | Me2! |
| 17:43.26 | Arthas- | cant come up with any good answer to the question though |
| 17:43.30 | Azu | throws net on NeoDeathXp |
| 17:43.31 | Mugumaster | is it possible to make a hidden area where you can bluescreen everyone ? |
| 17:43.31 | Azu | GOTCHA! |
| 17:43.34 | NeoDeathXp | o well set it to game time and the lag will not affect your system |
| 17:43.38 | Vailreth | i am just wondering what i may be doing wrong if ant had any experince |
| 17:43.57 | NeoDeathXp | yes azu? |
| 17:44.06 | Shuuffle | lol |
| 17:44.10 | Azu | now that you are cought in a net |
| 17:44.14 | Azu | i can steal your map! |
| 17:44.26 | Azu | and give credits to a cat! |
| 17:44.31 | NeoDeathXp | lol |
| 17:44.44 | Arthas- | Vailreth yeah, havent heard anything about tht :) |
| 17:44.56 | NeoDeathXp | im working on battle UI |
| 17:45.06 | NeoDeathXp | i need to get the battle system done |
| 17:45.06 | Arthas- | I actually credited "A cat" for hatis movement system |
| 17:45.09 | Vailreth | i will figure it out |
| 17:45.13 | Azu | :p |
| 17:46.14 | Dustin | Ya i need to add my weapon bar |
| 17:46.31 | Dustin | Trying to figure out how to control the size of my cooldown bar based on an expireing timer |
| 17:46.59 | Dustin | Doing math with GUI is fucking retarded |
| 17:47.07 | Grum | anyone know how to lock the camera above a unit? or cant you attach a camera that way? |
| 17:47.10 | Dustin | I need to switch over to Galaxy |
| 17:48.18 | NeoDeathXp | you can lock it |
| 17:48.28 | Arthas- | Grum use follow unit group |
| 17:48.37 | Alpha_vst | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:51.43 | Cerebral | Hey guys how do I adjust flying unit's altitude? Have a rather large air unit that needs to be a little bit further up in the sky to look right. |
| 17:52.03 | NeoDeathXp | i think is hight |
| 17:52.56 | Cerebral | I tried adjusting height on a the unit itself. Didn't seem to change anything. Default is 3.75 |
| 17:53.10 | Cerebral | Could it be in the actor for it? |
| 17:54.38 | Clord | maybe actor need to be same heigh as unit's real position height |
| 17:54.46 | Clord | after all real unit is invisible |
| 17:55.31 | Cerebral | Ah I see what you mean, I'm looking actor height now |
| 17:57.08 | Cerebral | now I see the flying units have a mover called fly, in that there is a height map setting. With 3 options. |
| 17:57.31 | Cerebral | Fly, glide and ground |
| 17:59.53 | Alpha_vst | my game is pretty fun woot |
| 18:01.40 | NeoDeathXp | my game is not |
| 18:01.44 | NeoDeathXp | =( |
| 18:01.45 | Dustin | I need to test my custom UI in a bit Multiplayer |
| 18:02.34 | Azu | Alpha_vst :o |
| 18:02.42 | Alpha_vst | i was worried my game wasnt fun i still need to add things but i had fun testing my map lol almost got my lvel up system done 0.o |
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| 18:02.53 | Aegis_Runestone | Mooo |
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| 18:03.09 | Cerebral | Sounds good, I'm working on my zombie map =) |
| 18:03.30 | Azu | im working on blackmails for cookies |
| 18:03.54 | Azu | going pretty good tbh |
| 18:04.02 | Cerebral | Is that it's name? lulz if so =P |
| 18:04.05 | Azu | managed to get 2 cookies sofar |
| 18:04.14 | Azu | hehe |
| 18:04.17 | Azu | if only :P |
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| 18:07.52 | vjeux | cookies are hard to receive! |
| 18:08.12 | Aegis_Runestone | indeed |
| 18:08.18 | Cerebral | True, true |
| 18:08.21 | Arthas- | gives vjeux two cookies for his lousy lie |
| 18:08.41 | Arthas- | lurk lurk lurk, is that all I do? |
| 18:11.03 | pierro__ | In what way the unit Weapon - Broodlord weapon is linked to the broodlord ? |
| 18:11.04 | Azu | cookies are hard to recieve indeed |
| 18:11.16 | vjeux | Arthas-: your cookies are fake ones! |
| 18:11.17 | Azu | but easier to get if you blackmail someone into giving you them |
| 18:11.25 | Arthas- | really |
| 18:11.25 | vjeux | they are not stamped by me Muahhahaha |
| 18:11.29 | Arthas- | you had to tell everyone? |
| 18:11.42 | Arthas- | now what should I bribe skizot with |
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| 18:12.06 | Arthas- | auz pass me some of the coke :p |
| 18:12.10 | Dustin | :O |
| 18:12.14 | Azu | NEVERRRR! |
| 18:12.56 | pierro__ | http://docs.google.com/drawings/pub?id=1O2_oPNYnnCqoSRL_NcaaSeGW88RK5EIWmr59OhheRLk&w=1045&h=803 |
| 18:13.00 | pierro__ | Miss sorry |
| 18:13.21 | Azu | nice englush |
| 18:13.23 | Azu | oh wait |
| 18:13.25 | Skizot | ? |
| 18:13.36 | Arthas- | wtf is that |
| 18:13.47 | pierro__ | a new atom |
| 18:13.52 | Arthas- | well |
| 18:13.54 | pierro__ | molecul |
| 18:13.54 | Azu | lol |
| 18:13.56 | Skizot | bribe me what? |
| 18:14.00 | Arthas- | did you really need all that fucking text |
| 18:14.06 | Arthas- | Skizot you will know when the moment is right |
| 18:14.07 | Arthas- | ! |
| 18:14.45 | Arthas- | text hurts my eyes :( |
| 18:15.11 | Azu | peoples eyes hurting hurts my brain :< |
| 18:15.30 | Arthas- | eyes are bad |
| 18:15.41 | Xan | btw |
| 18:15.46 | Xan | Arthas- you wear glasses? |
| 18:15.48 | Xan | or lenses? |
| 18:16.00 | Arthas- | depends |
| 18:16.06 | Arthas- | if im driving (rarely do) lenses |
| 18:16.15 | Arthas- | or if im using tv to game |
| 18:16.22 | Arthas- | all other time it depends on my laziness |
| 18:16.30 | Xan | ah |
| 18:16.31 | Arthas- | usually dont spend the minute to put em in |
| 18:16.31 | Xan | gotcha |
| 18:16.41 | Xan | so you wear glasses too? |
| 18:16.45 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 18:17.02 | Xan | you should do |
| 18:17.04 | Xan | laser operation |
| 18:17.05 | Xan | :D |
| 18:17.39 | Azu | get roboticeyes instead |
| 18:17.44 | Azu | thermal vision etc |
| 18:17.46 | Azu | its awesome |
| 18:18.05 | Arthas- | ya |
| 18:18.10 | Arthas- | im thinking of that + endo skeleton |
| 18:18.20 | Xan | and |
| 18:18.25 | Arthas- | a hat |
| 18:18.28 | Arthas- | :> |
| 18:18.37 | Xan | fat suction |
| 18:18.37 | Azu | hat was the most important part |
| 18:18.37 | Xan | :D |
| 18:18.40 | Azu | else it wont work |
| 18:18.50 | Arthas- | fat suction? |
| 18:18.53 | Arthas- | well |
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| 18:18.56 | Arthas- | fuck you too :) |
| 18:19.00 | Azu | lols |
| 18:19.02 | Xan | eheheh |
| 18:19.16 | Arthas- | if i wanna get rid of these boobs Id do it the normal way ;D |
| 18:19.29 | Xan | excersise? :p |
| 18:19.45 | pierro__ | what does mean the Term in events+ FromTreeDescendant ? |
| 18:19.46 | Arthas- | yeah! |
| 18:20.00 | Azu | really? :s |
| 18:20.01 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 18:20.03 | Arthas- | pierro__ dont understand the question |
| 18:20.19 | Arthas- | rather i dont know what Term in events+ FromTreeDescendant ? is |
| 18:21.32 | pierro__ | In the BroodLordAttack Actor Events+ field there is the first event which has a term FromEffectTreeDescendant |
| 18:21.52 | Vailreth | this is anoying .... |
| 18:21.59 | Azu | 14»»7 MPClassic 14«»7 [75¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦7] Chuck.S03E16.HDTV.XviD-LOL 14«»7 00:31 / 42:17 14«»7 624x352 14«»7 23,985 fps 14«»7 ~141.29KB/s 14«»7 350.06MB 14«« XviD MPEG-4 codec |
| 18:22.00 | Azu | SPAM! |
| 18:22.25 | Arthas- | ah |
| 18:23.23 | Arthas- | good question |
| 18:23.23 | pierro__ | What is a Precursor behavior ? |
| 18:23.32 | Arthas- | unfortunately i dont have any answer or even a guess |
| 18:23.32 | pierro__ | what is it for |
| 18:23.54 | Arthas- | hang around though, Im sure someone here knows how the actor works :) |
| 18:24.05 | pierro__ | yeah |
| 18:24.08 | pierro__ | .. |
| 18:24.25 | pierro__ | i ll give cookies to him |
| 18:24.34 | Arthas- | ^^ |
| 18:24.46 | Vailreth | any one know how to link the raven build effects with the raven build abillity ?> |
| 18:25.01 | Crazafied | Is their anyway to store unit race in a variable? |
| 18:26.17 | pierro__ | Man, Broodlord use 3 times the same Model however they are 3 different Model unit |
| 18:26.28 | heysparky | only suspicions, Vail |
| 18:26.41 | Vailreth | i will take suspicions at this point |
| 18:27.39 | pierro__ | in actor vailreth |
| 18:27.42 | pierro__ | maybe |
| 18:28.37 | pierro__ | Actually what do you want to do Vailreth ? |
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| 18:29.07 | Vailreth | i am trying to make a raven copy that spawns towers |
| 18:29.07 | depthsofchaos | has anyone used make alliance command so it worked ?:o |
| 18:29.16 | depthsofchaos | i get some interesting bugs |
| 18:29.31 | pierro__ | the same way raven works ? |
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| 18:32.37 | Alpha_vst | what kind of bugs depthsofchaos? |
| 18:33.09 | NeoDeathXp | yeah i can set alliances |
| 18:33.18 | depthsofchaos | well in multiplayer the player 1 can play just fine but player 2 gets vision of everything in fog :o |
| 18:33.26 | depthsofchaos | and he cnat do anything |
| 18:33.47 | depthsofchaos | just crash the game if he clicks on something :o |
| 18:35.54 | Alpha_vst | thats odd |
| 18:36.09 | Alpha_vst | is any of those players player 0? |
| 18:36.49 | depthsofchaos | no im only assigning from 1 |
| 18:37.11 | depthsofchaos | its basically a cat and mouse map wannabe |
| 18:37.18 | depthsofchaos | set cats to ally |
| 18:39.20 | Arthas- | Vailreth |
| 18:39.27 | Vailreth | yes? |
| 18:39.35 | Arthas- | cant you just swap the ravens build for the ones used by scv and set buildtime to 0 |
| 18:39.39 | Arthas- | i mean |
| 18:39.49 | Arthas- | :D |
| 18:39.53 | Vailreth | i want the missle lauch effect .. |
| 18:39.59 | Arthas- | pfffft |
| 18:40.36 | Arthas- | havent looked enough on the raven / turrets to be able to solve htat :D |
| 18:41.44 | pierro__ | I find the missing link between the unit weapon - Broodlord weapon and the unit Broodlord |
| 18:42.03 | Alpha_vst | good job |
| 18:42.08 | Zaratulius | can somone help me test my map on bnet? it will take only couple of minutes |
| 18:42.15 | Azu | sure |
| 18:42.22 | Clord | that play costm games hack thing is not 100% perfect... it screws over in my map making allied AI player to hug enemy forces as if they are allies |
| 18:42.23 | Clord | ^^ |
| 18:42.26 | pierro__ | the hard part now |
| 18:42.28 | Zaratulius | i will upload my map in a sec |
| 18:43.27 | Azu | kk |
| 18:43.42 | Zaratulius | Azu: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/22404005/Warrior.SC2Map |
| 18:44.21 | Zaratulius | give me your name and identifier on bnet so i will invite u |
| 18:44.50 | Azu | azu.nyan |
| 18:45.20 | Zaratulius | are u online? |
| 18:45.33 | Azu | now i am |
| 18:45.53 | depthsofchaos | clord i got the same bug with alliances online :o |
| 18:46.02 | depthsofchaos | i mean not the same but alliances are fucked :p |
| 18:49.08 | Clord | yeah... |
| 18:49.09 | Azu | Zaratulius think it got the same bug like depthsofchaos map |
| 18:49.10 | Clord | it is hack bug |
| 18:49.22 | Zaratulius | what happend? |
| 18:49.22 | Clord | once publishing feature is online they work fine |
| 18:49.24 | Azu | yep |
| 18:49.33 | Azu | crashes whenever 2nd player target enything |
| 18:49.37 | Azu | anything* |
| 18:49.44 | Zaratulius | sad |
| 18:49.50 | Azu | everything was in fog |
| 18:49.56 | depthsofchaos | lol same shit? |
| 18:50.01 | Azu | yeah |
| 18:50.06 | depthsofchaos | and iwe been ouble checking for hours |
| 18:50.10 | Zaratulius | and did u had big button at the center? |
| 18:50.30 | Azu | nope |
| 18:51.03 | depthsofchaos | zara do you set alliances on your map? |
| 18:51.12 | Zaratulius | nope |
| 18:51.55 | depthsofchaos | i wonder why did troncraft work then |
| 18:52.01 | Azu | :s |
| 18:52.06 | Azu | indeed |
| 18:52.20 | depthsofchaos | the only difference was that it had loading details set |
| 18:54.12 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AonLKgumHH_adGo5aDhqY2h3OUppN3p6ZVpVTV9UTHc&hl=en < this one |
| 18:54.54 | Azu | :o |
| 18:55.26 | Zaratulius | it will be hard to make my map playable for couple players if i'm not able to test it ;p |
| 18:55.40 | Azu | yeah |
| 18:55.41 | Azu | >< |
| 18:55.46 | Azu | same with depthsofchaos mapz |
| 18:55.49 | Zaratulius | if i just could start my game as a second player... |
| 18:56.05 | depthsofchaos | we tryed that |
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| 18:56.15 | depthsofchaos | or maybe azu is the weak link xD |
| 18:56.20 | Azu | ;_; |
| 18:56.22 | depthsofchaos | he has maphacks |
| 18:56.22 | Zaratulius | heh |
| 18:56.28 | depthsofchaos | revealing everything :P |
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| 18:57.27 | Alpha_vst | zaratulius you can close player slots and make your self start as a different player... but thats about it :P |
| 18:57.46 | Zaratulius | i will try it |
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| 18:58.32 | Azu | hahahhaa |
| 18:59.51 | Clord | I made my AI demostration video putting every user slot as computer |
| 18:59.52 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:00.04 | Clord | so it automatically made me spectator |
| 19:00.50 | depthsofchaos | but spectators can see properly not in fog right? |
| 19:01.04 | depthsofchaos | cause we had full vision but with fog |
| 19:01.31 | Azu | yeah |
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| 19:02.02 | Zaratulius | ehh when i put mysealf in 2 slot i'm still a 1 player... |
| 19:02.25 | depthsofchaos | you gota have someone host the game |
| 19:02.29 | depthsofchaos | then join it |
| 19:02.45 | depthsofchaos | but theres no mistery |
| 19:02.56 | depthsofchaos | its simply buged |
| 19:03.05 | Zaratulius | yea but then game crashes ;p |
| 19:03.12 | Clord | blizzard is not intended custom maps to be played yet online |
| 19:03.19 | Azu | so? ;) |
| 19:03.19 | Dustin | ^ |
| 19:03.26 | Clord | so you can expect bugs |
| 19:03.27 | Clord | lol |
| 19:03.30 | Azu | pfft |
| 19:03.36 | Azu | betas are always bug free! |
| 19:03.37 | Azu | >_> |
| 19:03.44 | Zaratulius | but giving option to start as second player in editor would be nice ;p |
| 19:03.45 | Clord | otherwise whine thread |
| 19:03.46 | Clord | lol |
| 19:03.53 | Clord | lol... |
| 19:04.00 | Clord | there is hardly RTS what allow multiple guys in same editor |
| 19:04.04 | Clord | yet people keep asking it |
| 19:04.08 | Clord | same with FPS editors |
| 19:04.08 | Clord | etc |
| 19:04.14 | Clord | it is not just practical |
| 19:04.30 | Skizot | you CAN start as player 2 |
| 19:05.01 | Zaratulius | how? :) |
| 19:05.56 | Alpha_vst | turn off player 1 |
| 19:06.16 | Zaratulius | i'm stupid :P |
| 19:06.22 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 19:06.24 | Azu | 14»»7 MPClassic 14«»7 [75¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦7] Iron Man 2 CAM XViD - IMAGiNE 14«»7 00:00:07 / 01:52:04 14«»7 720x288 14«»7 25,003 fps 14«»7 ~213.12KB/s 14«»7 1.37GB 14«« XviD MPEG-4 codec |
| 19:06.28 | Azu | decent quality (y) |
| 19:07.13 | depthsofchaos | oh fuck i found out whats the bug xD |
| 19:07.17 | depthsofchaos | i think at least |
| 19:07.21 | Azu | really :O |
| 19:08.08 | Zaratulius | it's the effect of sitting all day in front of computer ;p |
| 19:08.32 | Clord | meh |
| 19:08.49 | Clord | it is doing maps too good before release since there is no way to mass release yet |
| 19:09.29 | depthsofchaos | well but when it start youll be the only person who has made maps |
| 19:09.31 | Azu | blizzard should add custom game support already |
| 19:09.35 | depthsofchaos | and everibody will use your maps |
| 19:09.38 | Azu | custom map* |
| 19:09.49 | Legick | it would kind of undermine their current goal, they're mostly trying to balance melee atm |
| 19:09.56 | Legick | they put the editor out as a "treat" |
| 19:09.57 | Zaratulius | heh Azu i think i know why my map didn't worked i had only one player active :D |
| 19:09.57 | Azu | pfft |
| 19:10.04 | Azu | lols |
| 19:10.05 | Azu | >< |
| 19:10.10 | Azu | probably same with depthsofchaos? |
| 19:10.14 | depthsofchaos | in map /player properties? |
| 19:10.16 | depthsofchaos | right |
| 19:10.22 | Zaratulius | hehe |
| 19:11.02 | Zaratulius | so i go back to make my map playable for couple of players |
| 19:11.02 | Azu | well |
| 19:11.07 | depthsofchaos | azu wana try it now ?:P |
| 19:11.09 | Azu | sure |
| 19:11.23 | depthsofchaos | zara it was player properties right? |
| 19:11.29 | depthsofchaos | you have to set it from none to user? |
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| 19:11.42 | Clord | it is true |
| 19:11.49 | Clord | there is advantage to publish map before release |
| 19:11.53 | Clord | so once retail hits |
| 19:11.55 | Clord | mass download |
| 19:12.07 | Clord | all those millions copies sold |
| 19:12.09 | Clord | and hungry gamers |
| 19:12.10 | Ingela | Arthas-, you stupid |
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| 19:14.22 | Clord | I kinda got my key special way to use editor early |
| 19:14.35 | Clord | actually to ensure I get in early to beta |
| 19:14.47 | Clord | so far... worth it |
| 19:15.11 | Clord | once game is released it is hard to focus mapping for moment while going around campaign lol |
| 19:15.25 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 19:16.31 | Mojache | Everytime I join this IRC theres a dozen new people I have never seen before |
| 19:16.57 | Azu | LOL |
| 19:17.00 | Azu | it worked>< |
| 19:18.08 | vjeux | anyone with a good computer (and fraps) could help me? |
| 19:18.28 | vjeux | i'm making the clock contest results |
| 19:18.44 | Mojache | you need a video of all the maps vjeux? |
| 19:18.54 | vjeux | and i'd like to get a video of the winner: DarkRevenantX |
| 19:19.02 | vjeux | but i can't fraps in high quality :( |
| 19:19.07 | Mojache | I can do it for you, what exactly do you need. |
| 19:19.12 | Alpha_vst | same lol |
| 19:19.32 | vjeux | just launch the map, and fraps it :) |
| 19:19.49 | Mojache | nothing special editing wise? just launch the map? |
| 19:20.02 | vjeux | yeah |
| 19:20.21 | vjeux | if you could add the sc2mapster intro before, it would be awesome |
| 19:20.22 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/1561-help-us-promote-sc2mapster/?unread |
| 19:20.51 | vjeux | DarkRevenantX - 39-> 50 |
| 19:20.54 | vjeux | shaotang - 34 |
| 19:20.57 | vjeux | Squeegeez - 23-> 29 |
| 19:21.01 | vjeux | here's the top 3 btw :) |
| 19:21.18 | vjeux | (first value is before normalization, second is after) |
| 19:21.47 | vjeux | total of 267 votes :) |
| 19:21.50 | Mojache | okay wow his map lags haha let me close some stuff dwon |
| 19:22.04 | vjeux | told you it was some heavy stuff! |
| 19:22.08 | Dustin | vjeux |
| 19:22.10 | Dustin | Get CamStudio |
| 19:22.19 | Dustin | Fraps is to System resource hogging |
| 19:22.33 | Aegis_Runestone | BRB |
| 19:22.40 | Mojache | uh |
| 19:22.49 | Mojache | CamStudio will not give you proper frame rates |
| 19:22.52 | Aegis_Runestone | oh, CamStudio sucks, I used it yesterday and it's quality is awful. |
| 19:22.55 | NeoDeathXp | Guys! |
| 19:22.58 | Dustin | Camstudio does just fine |
| 19:23.00 | NeoDeathXp | i have a question |
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| 19:23.06 | Aegis_Runestone | and now, I leave. |
| 19:23.06 | Aegis_Runestone | :P |
| 19:23.08 | vjeux | can't run the game in high quality |
| 19:23.09 | Mojache | Sure if you want a 300x200 iphone movie |
| 19:23.15 | vjeux | so i don't expect cam studio to record it :p |
| 19:23.26 | vjeux | cya Aegis_Runestone |
| 19:23.29 | vjeux | what's up NeoDeathXp |
| 19:23.31 | Dustin | I have a 1080p HD video from Camstudio |
| 19:23.32 | Mojache | I'm not sure the map loaded properly |
| 19:23.34 | Dustin | You're doing it wrong :P |
| 19:23.40 | Mojache | are the numbers suppouse to go around the circle? |
| 19:23.45 | NeoDeathXp | if i add a behavior like strength to a unit and call it an attribute, how do i find out that number in a trigger? |
| 19:23.46 | Paras1te | O hai all |
| 19:23.47 | Mojache | because it didn't for the version I loaded |
| 19:24.32 | vjeux | i'm not sure either |
| 19:24.52 | vjeux | i tried to play it but in low quality how to say it sucked :p |
| 19:26.05 | Skizot | hey nojache! |
| 19:26.42 | Azu | Zaratulius tested 2 players yet? |
| 19:27.30 | Alpha_vst | I GOT IT |
| 19:27.47 | Alpha_vst | why didnt i think of it sooner lol |
| 19:29.01 | Mojache | that was kinda cool |
| 19:29.07 | Mojache | I have no idea what I just watched though |
| 19:29.27 | Mojache | what resolution vjeux |
| 19:29.44 | vjeux | so it's viewable and not ugly on youtube |
| 19:30.04 | vjeux | (i know that's vague but that's what I want :P) |
| 19:31.23 | Mojache | sup Skizot |
| 19:31.33 | Mojache | Don't worry, I know what you want |
| 19:31.40 | Mojache | i'll upload here once it's done rendering |
| 19:32.22 | Skizot | huh? |
| 19:32.23 | Baldey | am i still connected? |
| 19:32.30 | Skizot | http://i40.tinypic.com/17a62s.jpg |
| 19:32.33 | Mojache | I was talking to Vjeux |
| 19:32.33 | Baldey | oh wow i am.... been connected for 3 days straight lol |
| 19:32.38 | Skizot | which gun is better for an item drop? |
| 19:32.49 | Mojache | depends the angle |
| 19:32.52 | Mojache | your looking at it |
| 19:32.55 | vjeux | thanks :) |
| 19:32.59 | Skizot | that is the angle. |
| 19:33.06 | vjeux | going to add the sc2maspter intro ? |
| 19:33.08 | Mojache | the one on the right |
| 19:33.08 | Skizot | standing up or laying on the ground. |
| 19:33.17 | Baldey | how do i change ability hotkeys? ive looked everywhere, abilities, comand cards... must have missed it |
| 19:33.29 | Skizot | so laying on the ground then... |
| 19:33.34 | Mojache | 42% rendered here vjeux, would be NICE if you inform me before I start rendering here pal |
| 19:33.41 | Mojache | wheres the the intro? |
| 19:33.49 | vjeux | [21:20] <@vjeux> if you could add the sc2mapster intro before, it would be awesome [21:20] <@vjeux> http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/1561-help-us-promote-sc2mapster/?unread |
| 19:34.06 | Mojache | okay well |
| 19:34.09 | Mojache | some how I missed that |
| 19:34.09 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2mapster-logo/files/ |
| 19:34.47 | Mojache | did you want any text on top of the video |
| 19:34.53 | Mojache | or just this logo and then the vid |
| 19:35.08 | Skizot | the url on the intro couldn't hurt :P |
| 19:35.39 | Mojache | wow you dudes need a better intro |
| 19:35.40 | Baldey | so does anyone know how to chnage hotkeys? |
| 19:35.47 | Mojache | oh so Skizot |
| 19:35.54 | Mojache | how good with the camera are you |
| 19:36.05 | Vailreth | hmm well i finally got it working seems i was missing an actor ... |
| 19:36.05 | Baldey | like build nexus hotkey for exmaple |
| 19:36.19 | Alpha_vst | woot |
| 19:36.42 | vjeux | isn't that intro good enough? :p |
| 19:36.57 | Paras1te | in button data I think |
| 19:37.14 | vjeux | if you feel like to do one better, feel free :) |
| 19:37.24 | Paras1te | Intro is kewl but why red "II" ? |
| 19:37.47 | vjeux | dunno |
| 19:37.47 | Paras1te | I like the original one |
| 19:38.33 | Mojache | just get someone to build the logo |
| 19:38.36 | Mojache | with SC2 units |
| 19:38.38 | Mojache | in the map maker |
| 19:38.44 | Mojache | but have them all "line" up |
| 19:38.45 | Vailreth | now i have the problem of build time it builds sooo SLOW that by the time it finish construction its timed life is over |
| 19:38.47 | Mojache | via triggers |
| 19:39.02 | Mojache | its a map making site |
| 19:39.08 | Mojache | SKIZOT |
| 19:39.36 | heysparky | Wow... DarkRevenant's map is eye-opening, trigger/data etc |
| 19:40.21 | vjeux | that could be fun :) |
| 19:40.33 | vjeux | maybe next contest is going to be a mapster logo video |
| 19:40.35 | vjeux | ! |
| 19:40.40 | Mojache | okay someone needs to make a guide called |
| 19:40.46 | Mojache | How to make folders to sort triggers |
| 19:40.50 | vjeux | xD |
| 19:40.50 | Mojache | because this is getting silly |
| 19:41.04 | Mojache | this dude who just submitted Super Starcraft Go-Kart |
| 19:41.06 | Mojache | like I don't even know |
| 19:41.10 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/elite-ghost-beta-v-0-3/. Elite Ghost Beta V 0.3. chainheartless (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:41.36 | Mojache | hes got four seperate global variables for each wheel of the gokart |
| 19:41.44 | Mojache | if thats not asking to be an Array I don't know what is |
| 19:42.30 | Dustin | lol |
| 19:42.38 | vjeux | a record i'd rather say |
| 19:42.53 | vjeux | oh ... for each wheel |
| 19:42.56 | vjeux | eah ... an array :p |
| 19:42.56 | Dustin | Wheel[1] Wheel[2] sounds like a good idea huh |
| 19:42.57 | Alpha_vst | records blow :( |
| 19:43.03 | Dustin | Records are fine |
| 19:43.10 | Dustin | I finally figured em out |
| 19:43.11 | vjeux | can't loop on records :p |
| 19:43.19 | Paras1te | Animate this lol |
| 19:43.20 | Paras1te | http://static.sc2mapster.com/uploads/170/0/994/TinyLogo.png |
| 19:43.22 | Dustin | Make a Record array and you can :P |
| 19:43.24 | Alpha_vst | you cant do a lot of shit with them |
| 19:43.39 | Mojache | Andddd sadly he doesn't have real physics |
| 19:43.40 | Mojache | damn it |
| 19:43.40 | Dustin | You make a record, then make a Record Variable Array |
| 19:44.05 | Mojache | all the smart people who make physics don't let me temper with it |
| 19:44.15 | Alpha_vst | why not? |
| 19:44.23 | vjeux | they don't share their maps :( |
| 19:44.28 | vjeux | only videos |
| 19:44.31 | Alpha_vst | lol i wouldnt either |
| 19:44.34 | Mojache | well to be fair I don't share maps either |
| 19:44.35 | Azu | :o |
| 19:44.41 | vjeux | why not? |
| 19:44.43 | Alpha_vst | lots of math and shit for that |
| 19:44.48 | Alpha_vst | I dont share my maps |
| 19:44.59 | Mojache | there is no publishing rights atm |
| 19:45.02 | Dustin | I share |
| 19:45.06 | Dustin | :D |
| 19:45.07 | Alpha_vst | i share information :D |
| 19:45.10 | Mojache | I'll share temp files I make |
| 19:45.16 | Mojache | but not projects I'm working on |
| 19:45.24 | Mojache | just raw code? Sure i'll make a seperate file. |
| 19:45.25 | Alpha_vst | yeah thats just silly |
| 19:45.35 | Dustin | Untill I start working hardcore on a project I dotn care |
| 19:45.42 | Dustin | My top down Fighters is jsut experimenting map |
| 19:45.43 | Mojache | but my map is at like |
| 19:45.43 | Paras1te | Too many trolls waiting to copy-paste map :O |
| 19:45.49 | Mojache | the 40th gun now |
| 19:45.55 | Mojache | all the hard work is nearly done |
| 19:45.59 | Alpha_vst | 40 guns? |
| 19:46.04 | Rectifier | i haven't made a physics system, but i imagine that you start with newton's law of gravitation... |
| 19:46.10 | Mojache | there are 13 guns |
| 19:46.10 | Dustin | I ahve 8 guns 4 classes and 8 abilities |
| 19:46.17 | Mojache | but there are four "characters" |
| 19:46.22 | Mojache | and each has major variations |
| 19:46.28 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 19:46.42 | Mojache | so really there is something silly like 52 guns |
| 19:46.53 | Alpha_vst | geez |
| 19:47.08 | Alpha_vst | my map is very simple :D |
| 19:47.11 | vjeux | Clock result contests announced: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-brainstorming/1075-contest-clock/?post=36 |
| 19:47.13 | Rectifier | and all those guns are weapons for ONE guy! |
| 19:47.17 | Alpha_vst | but complex on the inside |
| 19:47.27 | Paras1te | I would like to see already RPG with some terrain and units done, not only UI ;p |
| 19:47.40 | Alpha_vst | 52 guns for one unit? so you need 208 guns? |
| 19:47.55 | Rectifier | hey parasite, if you do the terrain and units for me then it would be done :P |
| 19:48.13 | Mojache | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Vk7i5itsE |
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| 19:48.13 | Mojache | just |
| 19:48.15 | Mojache | watch that |
| 19:48.19 | Mojache | it's a top down shooter |
| 19:48.22 | Mojache | 4 player co-op |
| 19:48.31 | Azu | was nice |
| 19:48.35 | Azu | tobad bnet is laggy |
| 19:48.35 | NeoDeathXp | DUH |
| 19:48.36 | Azu | ;< |
| 19:48.40 | NeoDeathXp | i found it |
| 19:48.42 | NeoDeathXp | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.02 | vjeux | excellent your trailer is now online :) |
| 19:49.12 | Azu | lols |
| 19:49.13 | vjeux | you know what, you just won a cookie! |
| 19:49.42 | Dustin | wtf |
| 19:49.44 | Azu | haha |
| 19:49.48 | Dustin | I have 4 player co-op top down shooter |
| 19:49.55 | Azu | nice "trailer" |
| 19:49.59 | Alpha_vst | wtf |
| 19:50.06 | Mojache | phsss your top down trailer has nothing on my spinning platform level pal |
| 19:50.24 | Dustin | Oh ya that map |
| 19:50.51 | Paras1te | Great map. I was watching you making it live xD |
| 19:50.51 | Paras1te | I think xp |
| 19:50.52 | Azu | :P |
| 19:50.59 | Skizot | wtf |
| 19:51.02 | Alpha_vst | thats actually pretty sweet |
| 19:51.03 | Azu | IM SURFN! |
| 19:51.10 | Dustin | I need to make a new video of mine |
| 19:51.16 | Rectifier | looks like smash tv from the nes |
| 19:51.34 | Mojache | we started with smash tv idea |
| 19:51.39 | Rectifier | or snes if you prefer better graphics >.> |
| 19:51.55 | Mojache | then just expanded it because the game is more "movement" based then shooting based |
| 19:51.58 | Dustin | Mines more of a top down shooter RPG |
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| 19:52.11 | Rectifier | that game inspired the running man with arnold schwarzeneggar |
| 19:52.55 | Rectifier | or was it the other way around? |
| 19:52.58 | Rectifier | idr |
| 19:53.09 | Azu | map looks fun |
| 19:53.27 | Skizot | Mojache |
| 19:53.35 | Skizot | you need custom item models? |
| 19:53.45 | Skizot | while i'm fucking around with max i mean? |
| 19:53.46 | Alpha_vst | why does everyone's shit make my map look like ass :( not fair :D |
| 19:53.50 | Rectifier | who did you make say the audio for your title mojache? |
| 19:54.24 | Mojache | Skizot, No but I was wondering how good with the camera are you |
| 19:54.29 | Mojache | my wife |
| 19:54.32 | Mojache | then I sped it up |
| 19:54.35 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 19:54.48 | Rectifier | i was about to say that sounded like a girl xD |
| 19:55.06 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 19:55.27 | Rectifier | alpha i feel your man man, ive gotten diddly squat done on my map |
| 19:55.32 | Rectifier | pain* |
| 19:55.38 | Vailreth | gah how do you change a structures build time?? |
| 19:55.47 | Skizot | pretty good, why? |
| 19:55.53 | vjeux | are you lesbian Mojache? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB30GXXaC4w |
| 19:56.14 | Mojache | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUhSjuhQYE |
| 19:56.26 | Mojache | Skizot, I'm thinking of entering the SC2 Movie contest |
| 19:56.33 | Skizot | movie contest? |
| 19:56.40 | Mojache | I wrote a script for it but it's going to require a lot of camera work |
| 19:56.42 | Mojache | yeah |
| 19:56.42 | vjeux | omg 6 million views :p |
| 19:57.05 | Azu | lols |
| 19:57.11 | vjeux | i don't think mapster is even doing that :p |
| 19:57.40 | Alpha_vst | contest of blizzard isnt it? |
| 19:57.43 | Skizot | well i think i'm pretty good. |
| 19:58.11 | Mojache | leme find that contest info |
| 19:58.11 | Skizot | http://i43.tinypic.com/20ievme.jpg |
| 19:58.14 | Skizot | http://i43.tinypic.com/16iskdu.jpg |
| 19:58.16 | Skizot | :D |
| 19:58.17 | vjeux | doesn't jimmy ever shut up? :P |
| 19:58.22 | Skizot | character select screens |
| 19:58.43 | vjeux | sexy Skizot |
| 19:58.46 | Dustin | Didnt you show those yesterday :P |
| 19:58.48 | Azu | indeed |
| 19:58.49 | Azu | sexy |
| 19:58.50 | Mojache | Do you play SC2 at all Skiz? Like 1v1 stuff? |
| 19:58.50 | Azu | ~ |
| 19:59.24 | Mojache | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/contests/scvideo/index.html?rhtml=y |
| 19:59.35 | Dustin | My Character Select screen is very diablo 2 esque |
| 19:59.37 | Mojache | Theres the contest stuff Skizot |
| 20:00.36 | Mojache | Oh wow haha never mind |
| 20:00.40 | Mojache | the deadline was may 7th |
| 20:00.42 | Mojache | geeezeeee |
| 20:00.46 | vjeux | lol :p |
| 20:00.58 | Mojache | man they really didn't give a lot of time for that contest |
| 20:02.14 | Mojache | Skizot, you do multi player testing yet? |
| 20:03.14 | Azu | me wants to know aswell |
| 20:03.17 | Azu | looks awesome :P |
| 20:03.26 | Dustin | Anyone want to help me test my map, I need to check if the UI shit is working for everyone |
| 20:03.30 | Azu | sure |
| 20:04.34 | Skizot | oh lol |
| 20:04.41 | Skizot | for my map? |
| 20:04.49 | Skizot | it needs alot of work :( |
| 20:05.00 | Mojache | It's super important you do that if you have anything lag sensetive |
| 20:05.06 | Rectifier | how did that jimmy video get 6.7 million views -.- |
| 20:05.07 | Azu | gives cookies to Skizot |
| 20:05.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster Aegis_Runestone (~aegisrune@c-24-10-172-8.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 20:05.15 | Mojache | I had to change a shit ton of stuff when the ping was capped at 250ms |
| 20:05.25 | Skizot | well if you wanna take a look at it and maybe fix up some stuff |
| 20:05.26 | Mojache | because I'm Mojache the Mage bitch phsss |
| 20:05.30 | Mojache | Armory Mojache |
| 20:05.33 | Mojache | before that movie |
| 20:05.36 | Mojache | it was just me |
| 20:05.43 | Mojache | now theres a Mojache on every server! |
| 20:06.01 | vjeux | :( |
| 20:06.02 | Rectifier | damn... |
| 20:06.14 | Mojache | but when MMOchampion does a "Most Famous Mage" of all time thread? |
| 20:06.19 | Mojache | I'm not even on the ballot |
| 20:06.21 | Rectifier | is there a mojache faction now? |
| 20:06.24 | Mojache | rigged I tell ya, rigged |
| 20:06.45 | Mojache | I even have a TOWN named after me |
| 20:06.48 | Mojache | CAMP Mojache |
| 20:06.50 | vjeux | :) |
| 20:06.54 | Aegis_Runestone | lol |
| 20:06.56 | Rectifier | lol |
| 20:07.10 | vjeux | want me to tell boubouille to add you in the list? :) |
| 20:07.17 | Rectifier | im not famous >.> |
| 20:07.24 | Mojache | No lol |
| 20:07.30 | Azu | lol |
| 20:08.01 | vjeux | too late! :P |
| 20:08.28 | Mojache | pretty sure that poll was like |
| 20:08.30 | Mojache | from a year ago |
| 20:08.42 | vjeux | too bad he isn't responding :( |
| 20:08.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster pirate (~6036040b@gateway/web/freenode/x-siuzwboieppggbxg) |
| 20:09.04 | Rectifier | we allow pirates to join this channel :o |
| 20:09.15 | Mojache | It's okay Vjeux you can convince him to show off my new wow cartoon this summer for me. |
| 20:09.18 | Rectifier | what's next, ninjas? |
| 20:09.29 | vjeux | == Nickname is already in use: ninja |
| 20:09.30 | vjeux | fuck |
| 20:09.44 | vjeux | sure |
| 20:10.06 | Aegis_Runestone | kills the pirate and takes his gold. |
| 20:10.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:10.22 | vjeux | ninja Aegis_Runestone gold, OWNED |
| 20:10.47 | Rectifier | if nintoxicated was here they could fill the role as a drunk ninja i suppose |
| 20:10.48 | Mojache | man I'm so sad about that movie contest now |
| 20:10.48 | Mojache | I had such a sweet script |
| 20:11.02 | Vailreth | i had a great concept too |
| 20:11.03 | Azu | make it in sc2 anyways? :P |
| 20:11.17 | vjeux | i'm pretty sure other machinima contests are going to see the light |
| 20:11.22 | Aegis_Runestone | Where's ma gold? |
| 20:11.24 | Aegis_Runestone | :( |
| 20:11.29 | vjeux | I'd really like to set up one on mapster |
| 20:11.32 | Aegis_Runestone | That I rightfully stole from the pirate |
| 20:11.34 | vjeux | but we are not big enough yet |
| 20:11.39 | Paras1te | I prefer machinimas in gmod ;p |
| 20:11.42 | Mojache | Machinima is stupid |
| 20:11.45 | Mojache | I don't make that crap |
| 20:11.49 | Mojache | I make video games movies |
| 20:11.49 | Paras1te | thx.. |
| 20:11.57 | vjeux | what's the differnece? |
| 20:11.58 | Mojache | whoever started calling that machinima is kinda a dick |
| 20:12.04 | Paras1te | yeah, dunno |
| 20:12.13 | Mojache | like what was wrong with video game movies |
| 20:12.15 | Mojache | what you watching? |
| 20:12.20 | Mojache | oh some video game movie |
| 20:12.26 | Skizot | http://i43.tinypic.com/33jld9v.jpg |
| 20:12.28 | Vailreth | eh ... I Like machinima better |
| 20:12.36 | Paras1te | machinima is shorter? |
| 20:12.46 | Azu | Skizot nice :D |
| 20:12.47 | Mojache | are you just ripping apart models off units ski? |
| 20:12.54 | Skizot | yeah |
| 20:12.58 | Vailreth | its a cool portamue of Machine and Cinima |
| 20:13.10 | vjeux | machinima is a commercial name |
| 20:13.24 | Mojache | which is gay because it isn't suppose to be commercial |
| 20:13.32 | nicoli_s | anyone know which mpq has the icon files in it? |
| 20:13.33 | Mojache | it's not like theres any money in it anyway |
| 20:13.35 | Dustin | Machinima is just a film recorded in a game engine |
| 20:13.50 | Rectifier | wait...if its a portmanteux of machine and cinema, wouldn't it be machinema? |
| 20:13.51 | Dustin | There's money in it if you do it right |
| 20:13.51 | vjeux | assets nicoli_s |
| 20:13.54 | Dustin | Red Vs Blue |
| 20:13.58 | nicoli_s | mmk thx vjeux |
| 20:13.58 | Mojache | the thing is a lot of Machima you see isn't even film recorded in a game engine |
| 20:14.11 | Mojache | its composition shots of game footage or models |
| 20:14.12 | Dustin | Ya |
| 20:14.18 | Dustin | and i dont consider that machinima |
| 20:14.34 | pirate | wait what about pirates? |
| 20:14.37 | pirate | also |
| 20:14.41 | vjeux | well, i want to set up a movie game video contest! :P |
| 20:14.43 | Paras1te | Mojache: And whats the porblem? |
| 20:14.52 | Rectifier | someone ninja stole from you pirate. |
| 20:14.55 | Paras1te | Every game? |
| 20:14.56 | Vailreth | you are like ly right |
| 20:14.57 | Azu | vjeux then do it? :P |
| 20:15.07 | pirate | how can I use triggers to detect whether or not a player has researched an upgrade? |
| 20:15.10 | Mojache | don't do a machinima contest vjeux |
| 20:15.16 | vjeux | Azu: we need to get bigger so we have quality submissions |
| 20:15.17 | Mojache | do a cutscene contest |
| 20:15.24 | vjeux | with real prizes |
| 20:15.27 | vjeux | like blizz thing |
| 20:15.27 | Azu | then get bigger? :P |
| 20:15.31 | Azu | >_> |
| 20:15.42 | Rectifier | real prizes of what lol? |
| 20:15.49 | Paras1te | Just call it Cinematic Contest? |
| 20:16.15 | vjeux | please explain the diff between cutscene and movie game to the novice i am in that area :) |
| 20:16.18 | Rectifier | just give them some vitamin water and call it a prize |
| 20:16.19 | Vailreth | i have a contest ... |
| 20:16.24 | Mojache | it's not even the prizes that decide if you get quality submissions or not |
| 20:16.27 | Mojache | it's the exposure |
| 20:16.27 | Skizot | anyone have any suggestions for more models i can repurpose from units? |
| 20:16.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ousnius (~50bb6156@gateway/web/freenode/x-zhowxobefgcglgsk) |
| 20:16.40 | Vailreth | a tell me how the heck you change a structures build time contest .... |
| 20:16.51 | Ousnius | hi^^ |
| 20:17.03 | nicoli_s | Vailreth: you change it in the ability data |
| 20:17.03 | Rectifier | combine a dark templar sword and a marine model :o |
| 20:17.03 | Mojache | oh |
| 20:17.09 | Vailreth | i thought so too |
| 20:17.09 | Mojache | your movies down uploading Vjeux |
| 20:17.13 | vjeux | thanks |
| 20:17.17 | Vailreth | but that doesnt do any thing .. |
| 20:17.18 | Skizot | i can do animations yet rectifier |
| 20:17.23 | Mojache | www.wittywizard.com/starcraft |
| 20:17.27 | Mojache | right click save as it |
| 20:17.32 | Rectifier | darn, cuz id totally use that |
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| 20:17.44 | Vailreth | i have a build time of 0.001 set and it still takes 60 seconds to build the tower |
| 20:17.46 | Skizot | i could kidnap the scythe model. |
| 20:17.53 | Ousnius | if somebody hasn't seen it yet: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-brainstorming/1603-super-mario-bros-in-sc-ii-need-members/ |
| 20:17.54 | Skizot | and you could attach it to his hand. |
| 20:18.06 | Ousnius | I'm searching for people for my project^^ |
| 20:18.17 | Rectifier | wouldn't it be better if we ransomed the scythe's owner for cash? :P |
| 20:18.20 | Azu | i can be official idler |
| 20:18.25 | Azu | im really good at that |
| 20:18.40 | Skizot | Ousnius.. you stay away from my idea :P |
| 20:18.57 | Ousnius | ? |
| 20:18.59 | Skizot | though i'm more contra |
| 20:19.29 | Rectifier | original nes remake or re-imagining? |
| 20:19.31 | Ousnius | you wanna make a mario map, too? o.O |
| 20:19.32 | Alpha_vst | you need some custom tilesets :D |
| 20:19.45 | Paras1te | Make Ghost N Goblins! |
| 20:19.55 | Rectifier | because that music on contra is friggin badass |
| 20:19.56 | Ousnius | mix of all SMB games |
| 20:20.10 | Ousnius | will try to make it feel like real mario |
| 20:20.14 | Skizot | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/terran-conflict/images/ |
| 20:20.30 | Ousnius | lol ;D nice haha |
| 20:20.35 | ape | Could you use sprite graphics in GE :D |
| 20:20.50 | Rectifier | 8-bit explosions ftw? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMyoNhGHbk |
| 20:21.26 | Skizot | the blimps are my current project |
| 20:21.48 | Durrean | how can i view the playable terrain in the editor? |
| 20:21.57 | Durrean | a border would be nice |
| 20:22.36 | pirate | why cant i detect whether or not specific upgrades have been researched via triggers? |
| 20:22.37 | pirate | :( |
| 20:22.38 | NeoDeathXp | Derrean is under the map menu |
| 20:22.46 | NeoDeathXp | map bounds |
| 20:23.25 | Paras1te | pirate: make your own requirements |
| 20:23.47 | Ousnius | does anyone want to do sth. for my mario map? :D |
| 20:24.01 | Ousnius | like loadingscreen, tilesets, models |
| 20:24.03 | Ousnius | or even triggers |
| 20:24.23 | Paras1te | I can work with my eyes - watching ;) |
| 20:24.26 | Durrean | ty |
| 20:24.32 | pirate | can requirements be detected via triggers? |
| 20:24.43 | Paras1te | I suppose |
| 20:24.46 | Paras1te | didnt try |
| 20:24.52 | pirate | im not sure it can |
| 20:25.26 | Paras1te | Check it out now. I dont have access to GE right now. |
| 20:27.10 | Aegis_Runestone | looks at his request thread and sighs |
| 20:29.12 | Aegis_Runestone | ... did I kill chat? |
| 20:29.17 | Aegis_Runestone | O_o |
| 20:29.23 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 20:29.27 | Aegis_Runestone | Apparently |
| 20:29.33 | NeoDeathXp | i saw him do it |
| 20:29.39 | Aegis_Runestone | With a knife |
| 20:29.40 | Aegis_Runestone | :P |
| 20:29.44 | Rectifier | i just thought of something interesting, can i create a custom ability that when cast, sets a Hero's class? |
| 20:29.56 | Aegis_Runestone | probably |
| 20:29.56 | Alpha_vst | gah i need to figgure out why my select all player group is throwing errirs |
| 20:30.05 | Aegis_Runestone | LOL |
| 20:30.09 | NeoDeathXp | with the TUNDERDOME! 1 Knife! 2 men enter 1 man leaves! |
| 20:30.37 | NeoDeathXp | you need to put breaks in |
| 20:30.37 | Aegis_Runestone | Yeah, but ya know what's worse? |
| 20:30.40 | Aegis_Runestone | Nydus Worm attacks |
| 20:30.45 | Alpha_vst | i think i might be having my diffuclty system almost done |
| 20:30.52 | Aegis_Runestone | They just jump out of no where and suck you in. |
| 20:30.55 | Rectifier | you know what's worse? |
| 20:31.07 | Rectifier | death star planet destroyer beam |
| 20:31.16 | Rectifier | pewpew your planet's gone! |
| 20:31.16 | NeoDeathXp | Rectifier: but breaks in when you "if: conditions have been met |
| 20:31.20 | Aegis_Runestone | I think the Sun Crusher is worse than that. |
| 20:31.26 | Alpha_vst | MUHAHAHAHA |
| 20:31.51 | NeoDeathXp | err Aplpha_cst |
| 20:32.01 | Rectifier | Neo, wait...so if a Hero's class was already the correct class, it would break? |
| 20:32.42 | NeoDeathXp | Alpha_Vst, put breaks in where yor "If" conditions have been met for your pick players |
| 20:32.56 | NeoDeathXp | sorry rectifier wrong person |
| 20:32.58 | NeoDeathXp | lol |
| 20:33.02 | NeoDeathXp | what do you need? |
| 20:33.20 | Alpha_vst | 00:00:59.00 Trigger Error in 'gt_IntroSkip_Func': Parameter out of bounds in 'PlayerGroupPlayer' (value: -1, min: 0, max: 15) |
| 20:33.21 | Alpha_vst | 00:00:59.00 Trigger Error in 'gt_IntroSkip_Func': Parameter out of bounds in 'CameraApplyInfo' (value: -1, min: 0, max: 15) |
| 20:33.37 | NeoDeathXp | oo |
| 20:33.57 | Alpha_vst | idono wtf causes it |
| 20:34.00 | Rectifier | my bad neo xD |
| 20:34.05 | NeoDeathXp | Alpha_vst post your trigger on the forums so i can look at it |
| 20:34.25 | Alpha_vst | that requires me signing up for the forum 0.o |
| 20:34.29 | Mojache | does anyone know if its possible to turn a units model upside down? |
| 20:34.32 | NeoDeathXp | .. |
| 20:34.44 | NeoDeathXp | i cant help you if i cant see it |
| 20:34.47 | Alpha_vst | oh i could use bnet i guess :P |
| 20:35.45 | Rectifier | uhh, idk Mojache, could there be an orientation value in the actor's data type? |
| 20:35.51 | NeoDeathXp | post a screen shot or something |
| 20:36.17 | Alpha_vst | good idea |
| 20:38.38 | Altharaz | does there is a tutorial about UI with Dialog objects? |
| 20:40.15 | Alpha_vst | Here they are basic triggers idono why they would return such things... |
| 20:40.17 | Alpha_vst | http://i44.tinypic.com/538l6p.png |
| 20:40.29 | Skizot | http://i44.tinypic.com/2wg87k3.jpg |
| 20:40.31 | Skizot | :D |
| 20:40.49 | Azu | short introskip >< |
| 20:41.06 | Alpha_vst | I know right |
| 20:41.44 | Alpha_vst | its not actually the skip its more of a wip end of the real intro |
| 20:42.50 | Alpha_vst | my intro is a mess :D |
| 20:43.17 | heysparky | alpha, you want to know about typos? |
| 20:43.23 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 20:43.45 | Alpha_vst | 00:00:59.00 Trigger Error in 'gt_IntroSkip_Func': Parameter out of bounds in 'PlayerGroupPlayer' (value: -1, min: 0, max: 15) |
| 20:43.47 | Alpha_vst | 00:00:59.00 Trigger Error in 'gt_IntroSkip_Func': Parameter out of bounds in 'CameraApplyInfo' (value: -1, min: 0, max: 15) |
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| 20:43.55 | Alpha_vst | want to know why im getting those errors :D |
| 20:44.38 | Altharaz | Skizot, it's the weapons from the game???? |
| 20:44.42 | Skizot | yes |
| 20:44.45 | Altharaz | omg |
| 20:44.47 | Altharaz | so awesome! |
| 20:44.48 | Skizot | made into item models. |
| 20:45.02 | Skizot | for rpgs etc. |
| 20:45.05 | Altharaz | yes! |
| 20:45.06 | nicoli_s | Skizot: lets see your marine wearing them :P |
| 20:45.07 | Alpha_vst | thats sexy |
| 20:45.20 | Skizot | lol nic that's easy |
| 20:45.26 | Skizot | just attach them. |
| 20:45.28 | Skizot | XD |
| 20:45.34 | nicoli_s | screenshots or it didnt happen :P |
| 20:45.37 | Alpha_vst | you should share the love :D |
| 20:45.59 | Skizot | well i have to remove the current gun on the marine or it would look weird. |
| 20:46.35 | NeoDeathXp | ites erroring because you have no If statement in your pick player, what platers are you setting to your picked players Alpha_vst? |
| 20:46.53 | NeoDeathXp | its picking a player that is not there |
| 20:47.00 | Alpha_vst | i have to have an if? |
| 20:47.03 | NeoDeathXp | so you need to weed that player out |
| 20:47.09 | NeoDeathXp | with an if |
| 20:47.23 | NeoDeathXp | or just not add that player |
| 20:47.29 | NeoDeathXp | to the player group |
| 20:47.42 | NeoDeathXp | remember about player 0 and 15 |
| 20:47.56 | Alpha_vst | but only players 1-10 get added to my player group :( |
| 20:47.57 | NeoDeathXp | you might be adding them to your playergroup |
| 20:48.07 | Alpha_vst | and onyl if they are playing |
| 20:48.13 | NeoDeathXp | him |
| 20:48.15 | NeoDeathXp | humm |
| 20:48.33 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | ANyone know if banks can store information and retrieve it for only when certain players play with each other |
| 20:48.45 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | Say if Jane and Bob play on a map it stores their score for when they play later |
| 20:48.50 | NeoDeathXp | yeah |
| 20:48.53 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | but if jane and Steve play it stores different score |
| 20:48.54 | Alpha_vst | i will try to manully remove them from the group or something idono |
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| 20:49.00 | Galois-evariste | paging Dr. MotiveMe |
| 20:49.03 | NeoDeathXp | set a if on load |
| 20:49.07 | NeoDeathXp | of the bank |
| 20:49.11 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | if what though |
| 20:49.12 | Galois-evariste | guys |
| 20:49.15 | Galois-evariste | problem and need help |
| 20:49.24 | Galois-evariste | We're trying to use MapCraft to play custom maps |
| 20:49.35 | Galois-evariste | it worked the first time on a single player map but after that map, it doesn't work anymore |
| 20:49.42 | NeoDeathXp | you cant store the player acctual name in the bank unless the player inputs it |
| 20:49.46 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | playername firstly are the first part of name only, and secondly they are TEXT not strings so you can't do any comparision on them |
| 20:49.50 | Azu | Galois-evariste? |
| 20:49.52 | Galois-evariste | The map loads to about 4/5 and then crashes. has anyone found a solution to this? |
| 20:50.02 | Azu | try map patcher instead |
| 20:50.09 | Clord | make key to be first player name..... category to be second player name |
| 20:50.10 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:50.16 | Galois-evariste | can i find that on sc2mapster as well? |
| 20:50.17 | Clord | so it only loads with that combo |
| 20:50.20 | Azu | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/646-tool-sc2-custom-map-patcher/ |
| 20:50.21 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | can you do that? you sure |
| 20:50.26 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | I thought taht needed to be a string |
| 20:50.27 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | not a text |
| 20:50.28 | Azu | my bro had the same problem |
| 20:50.31 | Azu | worked with that |
| 20:50.44 | Clord | Key: Bob Category: Joe |
| 20:50.49 | Clord | if not that it finds nothing |
| 20:50.50 | Clord | ;) |
| 20:50.59 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | you sure that works with player name as It's TEXT not string? |
| 20:51.01 | Galois-evariste | thanks azu - we'll test it out now |
| 20:51.22 | Clord | should work at least via chat string =) |
| 20:51.28 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | what's chat string? |
| 20:51.29 | Clord | to determise category and key names |
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| 20:52.02 | Alpha_vst | nopers hmmm |
| 20:52.03 | Arthas- | i can use http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/05/12/1412215/North-Korea-Announces-Achieving-Nuclear-Fusion as avatar? =D |
| 20:52.09 | Arthas- | best |
| 20:52.09 | Arthas- | pic |
| 20:52.10 | Arthas- | ever |
| 20:52.25 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | im prett ysure you cannot do that as I said, player names are TEXt and kek section and comparisions need a String |
| 20:52.29 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | and text cannot be converted to string |
| 20:52.34 | Clord | you know "-load Joe" "-load Bob".... chat strings |
| 20:53.25 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | So youd have to type that into chat to load your settings? or something |
| 20:53.34 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | :-/ |
| 20:54.54 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | maybe I can just generate some random number to give each player a unique identity |
| 20:55.31 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | seems lame way to do it tho |
| 20:55.48 | Alpha_vst | Someone needs to create some static dead model units 0.o |
| 20:56.09 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | I suspect plenty of those will be in campaign |
| 20:57.10 | Alpha_vst | yeah but it sucks not having any right now :P |
| 20:57.38 | HeliosDoubleSix1 | indeed :-) |
| 20:58.33 | Azu | Galois-evariste did it work? :P |
| 20:59.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:59.27 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 20:59.56 | Alpha_vst | MUAHAHAHA NEW IDEA!!!!!! |
| 21:00.12 | Alpha_vst | okay this game is getting harder and more fun every day :D |
| 21:01.00 | Azu | :o |
| 21:01.08 | Azu | Alpha_vst stream mapmaking |
| 21:01.10 | Azu | im bored :p |
| 21:01.22 | Alpha_vst | low quality sexy nessy? |
| 21:01.32 | Azu | ofc :P |
| 21:01.48 | Azu | low quality is always sexy ;) |
| 21:03.02 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 21:03.14 | Alpha_vst | i dont even know where to start setting that shit up :P |
| 21:03.24 | Azu | :p |
| 21:04.18 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/clock-result-mouse-aim-mojache-trailer/ |
| 21:04.23 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/you-have-launch-nuke/. You Have to Launch the Nuke. SCPhonebook (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 21:05.54 | nicoli_s | Sixen: i swear i will only say this one more time and then i just wont even bother trying to get in touch with you: keep your irc on! |
| 21:08.16 | Sixen | :O |
| 21:08.19 | Sixen | I had finals todya. |
| 21:08.25 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 21:08.31 | Alpha_vst | u fail? |
| 21:08.38 | Sixen | What's up, nic? |
| 21:11.38 | nicoli_s | nothing, i just hate that yer not always on irc :P |
| 21:11.51 | Dustin | :O |
| 21:11.52 | nicoli_s | and post-good luck on yer finals |
| 21:14.54 | Vailreth | ah finals i remember them |
| 21:16.31 | Vailreth | this building consuction time issue has me frazzled |
| 21:16.55 | Alpha_vst | break time |
| 21:18.10 | Skizot | woooo |
| 21:18.18 | Skizot | side scroller platforms COMPLETE |
| 21:18.19 | Skizot | :D |
| 21:18.43 | Skizot | though i need something a better better looking than a floating library disk. |
| 21:20.46 | Azu | :o |
| 21:21.15 | Azu | pic or it didnthappen |
| 21:22.04 | nicoli_s | agreed |
| 21:22.18 | Azu | super smash bros for sc2? :x |
| 21:23.07 | vjeux | alright i'm going to sleep, I hope you liked the news :) |
| 21:23.21 | NeoDeathXp | Crystarium is hurting my eyes |
| 21:23.32 | NeoDeathXp | i need a break |
| 21:23.46 | NeoDeathXp | too much crap in there |
| 21:24.11 | NeoDeathXp | Lightinings commando Crystarium has 139 upgrades |
| 21:24.17 | NeoDeathXp | like WTF |
| 21:24.25 | Azu | :P |
| 21:24.41 | NeoDeathXp | i have to make all of these in a trigger |
| 21:24.45 | Azu | haha |
| 21:24.57 | NeoDeathXp | and then make a UI for it all |
| 21:25.03 | Azu | hahaha |
| 21:25.03 | NeoDeathXp | Balls. |
| 21:30.27 | Azu | lols |
| 21:30.30 | Azu | iron man 2 ended |
| 21:31.09 | Aegis_Runestone | [03:22pm] <Azu> super smash bros for sc2? :x |
| 21:31.13 | Aegis_Runestone | Had that idea |
| 21:31.16 | Aegis_Runestone | :P |
| 21:31.20 | Aegis_Runestone | A long time ago |
| 21:31.23 | Azu | :p |
| 21:31.25 | Aegis_Runestone | except with SC2 units |
| 21:31.36 | Aegis_Runestone | Hydralisk vs. Marine, go! |
| 21:31.44 | Azu | :P |
| 21:31.59 | Azu | yey free portal~ |
| 21:32.14 | Azu | http://store.steampowered.com/freeportal/ woho |
| 21:35.38 | Vailreth | bah i already purchesd the orange box |
| 21:35.51 | Azu | http://i44.tinypic.com/f9njgg.jpg |
| 21:35.52 | Azu | meh |
| 21:36.17 | Vailreth | thirty freaking buck for four games that i played one of three times one once and the rest not at all |
| 21:36.30 | Azu | :p |
| 21:36.38 | Azu | i bought the orange box for ps3 instead |
| 21:36.46 | Azu | ~20$ proowned |
| 21:36.50 | Azu | pre* |
| 21:37.00 | Vailreth | eh i only had a pc at the time' |
| 21:37.06 | Azu | :p |
| 21:37.10 | Vailreth | now i have a pc AND a 360 |
| 21:37.18 | Skizot | http://i40.tinypic.com/jhfton.jpg - under |
| 21:37.20 | Skizot | http://i44.tinypic.com/ff8wud.jpg- over |
| 21:37.32 | Azu | haha |
| 21:37.34 | Azu | awesome :p |
| 21:38.31 | Vailreth | i call photoshop>...> |
| 21:38.33 | Azu | i also managed to find oblivion game of the year edition for like 10$ |
| 21:38.39 | Vailreth | kidding |
| 21:38.52 | Azu | worth it |
| 21:39.00 | Azu | even tho pc = mods and shit |
| 21:39.17 | Vailreth | i am looking for...er ...Demigod for PC... |
| 21:39.37 | Azu | torrent it? |
| 21:40.28 | Vailreth | no |
| 21:40.38 | Azu | :o |
| 21:40.39 | Azu | why not? |
| 21:40.53 | Vailreth | only do that for ps ps2 and other games i emulate the systems for |
| 21:41.01 | Azu | ok |
| 21:41.03 | Azu | why? :o |
| 21:41.18 | Vailreth | personal choice |
| 21:41.25 | Azu | ok :) |
| 21:41.36 | Azu | oh |
| 21:41.40 | Azu | a new V episode |
| 21:41.58 | Vailreth | yay. |
| 21:42.13 | Azu | this is pure spam |
| 21:42.17 | Azu | 14»»7 µTorrent 14«»7 [75¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦7] V.2009.S01E11.HDTV.XviD-2HD.avi (349 MB) 14«»7 0% 14«»7 Down: 0.7 kB/s 14«»7 Up: n/a 14«»7 Peers/Seeds 0/5 14«»7 2w 4d 14«« |
| 21:42.20 | NeoDeathXp | OOo i love V |
| 21:42.34 | Azu | ya |
| 21:42.37 | Azu | its cool :) |
| 21:42.56 | Vailreth | i am looking for ratchet deadlocked .. |
| 21:43.13 | Vailreth | and okami |
| 21:43.30 | Azu | ps2 or wii? |
| 21:44.16 | Azu | oh |
| 21:44.20 | Skizot | okami gamesphere? |
| 21:44.23 | Azu | haha |
| 21:44.29 | Azu | i want one of those |
| 21:44.41 | Azu | they look really.. |
| 21:44.47 | Azu | sphere like.. |
| 21:45.48 | nicoli_s | fucking sweet Skizot |
| 21:45.50 | Azu | but i do want a okama gamesphere more |
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| 21:45.59 | Skizot | what is? |
| 21:46.13 | Azu | http://i41.tinypic.com/14v2xj8.jpg |
| 21:47.20 | Azu | EHM |
| 21:47.39 | Azu | wth, how does that console fit in that box? >_> http://i39.tinypic.com/4j6ykn.jpg |
| 21:49.08 | nicoli_s | Skizot: the platform stuff you did |
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| 21:49.26 | Skizot | oh. |
| 21:49.30 | Azu | more spam |
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| 21:49.38 | Ignorance | Hey guys, you know that WASD movement system I made? |
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| 21:49.41 | Ignorance | I messed with some variables |
| 21:49.45 | Ignorance | and now you can turn on a dime |
| 21:49.54 | nicoli_s | sweet |
| 21:49.58 | nicoli_s | what about a nickel? |
| 21:50.13 | Ignorance | I mean, if you turn it up high enough, obviously it'll eventually behave like an arcade game, but I went with one step below that so you still see your unit turning. :) |
| 21:50.27 | Ignorance | if you put it high enough anyway |
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| 21:51.51 | Ignorance | bah, how do I get a download link off of dropbox? |
| 21:52.09 | Ignorance | it keeps downloading without giving me the link and it can't be right clicked :[ |
| 21:52.29 | Azu | rightclick, copy link? :P |
| 21:52.30 | Ignorance | maybe I got it |
| 21:52.30 | Ignorance | https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Baneling%20Busters%20v1.0.1.SC2Map?w=bd2008a7 |
| 21:52.35 | Ignorance | That work? :P |
| 21:52.48 | Azu | nope |
| 21:52.49 | Azu | 403 error |
| 21:52.56 | Ignorance | Yeah, that's what happened last time too. |
| 21:52.57 | Azu | It seems you don't belong here! You should probably try logging in? |
| 21:53.48 | Ignorance | I'll just upload it to mediafire. |
| 21:53.58 | Ignorance | http://www.mediafire.com/?0w4qior1yxy |
| 21:54.00 | Ignorance | Try this. |
| 21:54.09 | Ignorance | Enjoy the movement system. It feels smooth like butter. |
| 21:54.17 | Azu | :p |
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| 21:59.40 | Azu | yeah |
| 21:59.43 | Azu | really smooth :D |
| 22:00.00 | Ignorance | It's the best one around yet, as far as I can tell. If someone thinks another is better, I'll gladly take a look. |
| 22:00.19 | heysparky | what data field causes neural parasite to terminate if you command a drone to build? |
| 22:00.19 | Ignorance | Yeah, it turns out I was normalizing my impulse, so I couldn't increase my acc. Once I fixed that, I could turn on a dime. |
| 22:00.42 | Azu | banelings are so cute <3~ |
| 22:00.57 | Ignorance | Well, it has to be normalized, but only the direction. >_> |
| 22:01.09 | Ignorance | Banelings are awesome. That's why I picked them. :) |
| 22:01.22 | Ignorance | That would work well for anything, though. I should try it with THORs sometime. ;) |
| 22:02.46 | Ingela | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/multitasking-trainer/ |
| 22:02.53 | Ingela | i love that sid696 guy |
| 22:02.58 | Ingela | that's the whole point of the map |
| 22:02.59 | Ingela | :D |
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| 22:06.01 | Lasion | Mornin' |
| 22:11.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster ubdead (~5ee53e4e@gateway/web/freenode/x-cusengoiadzbyrxe) |
| 22:11.33 | ubdead | hi :D |
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| 22:11.56 | Lasion | Haaaaaaaai |
| 22:11.59 | ubdead | so i decided to work on some items today |
| 22:12.11 | ubdead | has anybody figured out how to merge 2 items into a new one? |
| 22:12.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Radaka (~80c20e50@gateway/web/freenode/x-fybnvixnmroklvau) |
| 22:12.27 | Lasion | no idea |
| 22:12.35 | ubdead | i guess i could try it in the same way the archons do it |
| 22:12.37 | Radaka | are there any moderators on currently? |
| 22:12.43 | ubdead | sixen and grum? |
| 22:13.01 | Radaka | i'm looking to report someone |
| 22:13.06 | ubdead | oohh what for |
| 22:13.19 | Radaka | Mappermax |
| 22:13.26 | ubdead | ~seen mappermax |
| 22:13.29 | purl | i haven't seen 'mappermax', ubdead |
| 22:13.33 | Radaka | he's been leaving rude commens on tons of maps |
| 22:13.40 | Radaka | on one of mine he just posted "shit" |
| 22:13.42 | Radaka | and that's it |
| 22:13.43 | ubdead | oh thats stupid |
| 22:14.04 | Radaka | on another he said "terrible map" |
| 22:14.08 | Radaka | one sec |
| 22:14.25 | Radaka | go here |
| 22:14.25 | Radaka | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starpartyiv/ |
| 22:15.04 | Grum | ubdead? |
| 22:17.02 | ubdead | yes Grum |
| 22:17.03 | Alpha_vst | rawr |
| 22:17.12 | Skizot | nubs |
| 22:17.14 | Azu | grawr? |
| 22:18.37 | Grum | gimme a sec, i'll slap some sense into him |
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| 22:20.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Max_Damage (~M@67.233.56.86) |
| 22:20.13 | Mojache | anyone know what causes the camera to |
| 22:20.16 | Mojache | become retarded |
| 22:20.22 | ubdead | user error |
| 22:20.24 | Mojache | when increasing the height |
| 22:20.36 | Azu | hate? |
| 22:20.36 | ubdead | did you set max height? |
| 22:20.56 | Mojache | where can I set that? |
| 22:21.17 | Mojache | got it |
| 22:21.18 | Mojache | thanks |
| 22:25.43 | ubdead | wow i think i actually helped somebody there lol |
| 22:25.50 | Skizot | lol |
| 22:26.01 | Azu | lol |
| 22:26.26 | Grum | sigh |
| 22:26.31 | Grum | now i actually have to go and delete all his crap |
| 22:27.00 | Radaka | thanks for doing this thoug |
| 22:27.01 | Radaka | though* |
| 22:27.09 | Radaka | it's not very encouraging to check for comments |
| 22:27.12 | Radaka | only to find "shit" |
| 22:27.17 | Crazafied | lol |
| 22:27.37 | Crazafied | Personally i find some of the trolls funny |
| 22:27.58 | ubdead | i've been too much on the internet to still care about trolls lol |
| 22:28.04 | Radaka | trolls are usually only funny when they're unleashed on people that actually deserve it |
| 22:28.11 | Crazafied | Especially when they extend it to many paragraphs |
| 22:28.22 | Radaka | and then it's hilarious |
| 22:29.02 | Crazafied | Very true don't wanna spend 15 hours and on something and then think omfg im amazing then 1st comment is "You suck donkey wang" |
| 22:29.58 | Skizot | You suck donkey wang |
| 22:30.07 | ubdead | lol i wouldn't really mind I guess |
| 22:30.15 | Dustin | Meh |
| 22:30.19 | Dustin | I make maps for myself |
| 22:30.20 | ubdead | (reading that kind of comment, not sucking donkey wang) |
| 22:30.24 | Dustin | If other people like em thats cool |
| 22:30.34 | Dustin | But I make em so that my friends and I can play them |
| 22:30.44 | Skizot | lol ubdead loves donkey wang. |
| 22:30.52 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 22:31.14 | ubdead | nothing like a good donkey wang |
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| 22:31.37 | ubdead | (kids should be in bed by now anyway) |
| 22:31.50 | Azu | pfft |
| 22:31.53 | Crazafied | Depends where ya live :P its 6 here |
| 22:31.59 | Azu | 00:31 here |
| 22:32.10 | Shuuffle | this world doesn't run on one time zone |
| 22:32.20 | Azu | on the internet it does |
| 22:32.21 | Alpha_vst | 3:31 what now |
| 22:32.30 | Shuuffle | Nope |
| 22:32.34 | ubdead | are you telling me the world isnt flat? |
| 22:32.39 | Azu | WHAT |
| 22:32.41 | Azu | IT ISNT? |
| 22:32.41 | Alpha_vst | the internet is its own time zone 0.o |
| 22:32.45 | ubdead | how ignorant |
| 22:32.54 | Ignorance | Hey, hey. |
| 22:32.56 | Ignorance | Fuck you, man. |
| 22:32.57 | Dustin | .... |
| 22:33.03 | Dustin | Im confused |
| 22:33.04 | Alpha_vst | my sc2 world is flat :( |
| 22:33.11 | Dustin | Anyway, weed time, lata! |
| 22:33.26 | ubdead | that will cure that confusion lol |
| 22:33.46 | Ignorance | No, but somebody making and releasing a map that does some interesting shit will. |
| 22:33.47 | Ignorance | ;) |
| 22:34.20 | Xapti | Anyone look carefully at viking and terran buildings' ground-to-air morphs? |
| 22:34.31 | Xapti | We are pretty sure they use unit swap right |
| 22:34.39 | ubdead | nope |
| 22:34.42 | ubdead | they use morph |
| 22:34.46 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 22:34.55 | Xapti | well morph swaps the unit essentially though right |
| 22:34.56 | Kylegar | they morph |
| 22:35.09 | Kylegar | morph is any ability where one unit becomes something else |
| 22:35.25 | Xapti | yeah |
| 22:35.41 | heysparky | guh... I want a screen of the old battle for aleph map... anyone know where I can get one? |
| 22:35.52 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 22:35.53 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 22:36.16 | heysparky | battle for char aleph... the last mission of brood war |
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| 22:36.43 | Grum | mappermax has been 'purified' and 'warned', cheers for the heads up ubdead :) |
| 22:36.56 | ubdead | don't thank me |
| 22:36.57 | ubdead | thank eh |
| 22:36.58 | Grum | or actually radaka :) |
| 22:37.07 | ubdead | yea thats right :) thanks radaka |
| 22:37.25 | Grum | that was some nice abuse .. oh well |
| 22:37.32 | Grum | banhammer is sharpened! |
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| 22:37.42 | ubdead | a sharp hammer? |
| 22:37.57 | Alpha_vst | what did he do? |
| 22:38.09 | ubdead | talk random trash on maps |
| 22:38.25 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:38.27 | Grum | well not on all maps |
| 22:38.36 | Grum | and he actually did point out some problems once or twice |
| 22:38.43 | Grum | just in a bit suboptimal way |
| 22:38.55 | ubdead | you are too compasionate |
| 22:39.05 | ubdead | lol |
| 22:39.13 | ubdead | he's just some random asshole |
| 22:39.53 | ubdead | so does anybody have a good idea how to make items merge, like they do in dota |
| 22:40.18 | ubdead | i was thinking about the archon merge, but it may have a better solution |
| 22:40.53 | Crazafied | pretty sure dota is on a if item and if item then destory both and create x item |
| 22:40.54 | Shuuffle | how did the merge work on dota? I know there was like a recipe or something, but how did you merge them |
| 22:41.04 | Shuuffle | in game |
| 22:41.40 | Xapti | yeah ubdead it's like Crazafied said |
| 22:42.01 | ubdead | mnn |
| 22:42.40 | ubdead | well that raises the question on how to check if all the items are present in the inventory |
| 22:43.09 | Azu | anyone wants more spam? |
| 22:43.14 | Azu | i guess so |
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| 22:43.18 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/random-unit-random-region/. Random unit in random region. grum (Manager/Author). Approved by grum. |
| 22:43.47 | ubdead | right |
| 22:43.49 | Crazafied | just combine all units into a unit group and then pick each unit in unit group and if their is x unit and x unit then delete both of those and create x unit |
| 22:43.57 | Crazafied | items are just glorified units |
| 22:43.58 | Alpha_vst | i need some kind of building to act as a spawn point but i cant decide what building to use :P |
| 22:44.23 | ubdead | crazafied, well i was hoping to do it all in the data editor |
| 22:44.43 | Alpha_vst | you cant do everything with the data editor 0.o |
| 22:45.00 | Grum | you can |
| 22:45.18 | ubdead | triggers and data editor use the same methods i think anyway |
| 22:45.36 | Crazafied | most of the same methods :P |
| 22:46.05 | ubdead | i think i can have a validator checking for items |
| 22:46.12 | ubdead | let me research it a bit |
| 22:46.15 | ubdead | brb |
| 22:46.27 | Shuuffle | Looks like dota used did it in script >< |
| 22:46.32 | Shuuffle | -used |
| 22:46.52 | ubdead | is inventory considered "cargo"? |
| 22:47.00 | Crazafied | personally i would just do it in trigger it would be such a small trigger anyway |
| 22:47.09 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 22:47.18 | ubdead | it's a matter of principle crazyfied lol |
| 22:48.25 | Alpha_vst | i would assume you would need a behavior or a few checking if they have this item and that item and are using said ability |
| 22:48.42 | Alpha_vst | less hassle with a trigger 0.o |
| 22:49.04 | ubdead | yea think ill use a trigger anyway |
| 22:49.10 | Crazafied | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.16 | Crazafied | that single line makes your headache go away |
| 22:49.34 | ubdead | well im not using the practical stuff |
| 22:49.42 | ubdead | im kind of "training" myself |
| 22:49.49 | ubdead | set myself a goal in data editor |
| 22:49.54 | ubdead | and find out a way to do it |
| 22:50.00 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:50.23 | ubdead | it's worth it, the data editor is so powerful |
| 22:50.42 | Clord | your method is rather debatable... maybe it works for you |
| 22:50.48 | Clord | but I rather do stuff with context |
| 22:51.03 | ubdead | well so do i |
| 22:51.07 | Galois-evariste | Question: Does anyone know how to detect when players are not in the game so that I can have their default starting units removed? |
| 22:51.08 | Crazafied | Yeah but you gotta weigh it out is it worth adding a ton of behaviors for something trigger does in one line its a matter of efficiency |
| 22:51.32 | Alpha_vst | condition (Status of player Players) == Playing |
| 22:51.33 | ubdead | galois: use Player group -> Active players |
| 22:51.38 | Crazafied | Galois: Pick players in player group active players |
| 22:51.58 | Shadowclaimer | well I managed to recreate Dark Archons, yay me |
| 22:52.06 | Galois-evariste | thanks guys |
| 22:52.10 | Alpha_vst | did you make them red? |
| 22:52.14 | Galois-evariste | although i hate to seem like an idiot here |
| 22:52.18 | Shadowclaimer | yes |
| 22:52.21 | Shadowclaimer | had to use triggers though |
| 22:52.23 | Galois-evariste | but i don't undersatnd what you guys are saying -- the condition thing |
| 22:52.31 | ubdead | lol you should have seen us the first 4 hours the editor came out |
| 22:52.35 | Shadowclaimer | basically whenever a dark archon is created it sends the actor a message to tint it to red |
| 22:52.40 | Galois-evariste | I never figured out how conditions work |
| 22:52.45 | Galois-evariste | I'm not a loser to logic |
| 22:52.49 | Galois-evariste | I'm just not familiar with how to apply it |
| 22:53.05 | ubdead | just mess around with it |
| 22:53.21 | Galois-evariste | ubdead i was here the first 4 hours the editor came out |
| 22:53.22 | ubdead | thats my way of finding stuff out, never let me down yet ;D |
| 22:53.24 | Galois-evariste | and i still don't know |
| 22:53.28 | ubdead | haha :D |
| 22:53.36 | Galois-evariste | If messing around with it worked for me then I wouldn't be here asking |
| 22:53.39 | Alpha_vst | what dont you understand about conditions? |
| 22:54.17 | Galois-evariste | Why do they not go in the Events category? |
| 22:54.22 | Galois-evariste | That's what my intuition says |
| 22:54.28 | Galois-evariste | but its not where they go |
| 22:54.38 | Alpha_vst | because a condition is not an event |
| 22:54.44 | ubdead | events a certain point in time, conditions are the state that point of time is in |
| 22:54.59 | Grum | which map has the best 'fluid' wasd movement atm? :) |
| 22:54.59 | Galois-evariste | This makes no sense to me |
| 22:55.02 | Alpha_vst | an event activates a trigger |
| 22:55.11 | Shadowclaimer | there is no Portrait of Unit function is there lol |
| 22:55.55 | Alpha_vst | you have to do x to be able to meet y condition... |
| 22:56.19 | Alpha_vst | if you dont do anything then nothing can happen |
| 22:56.34 | ubdead | galois: it's like the event is "It's thursday" and the condition would be "the weather is rainy", you would check every thursday, but your trigger would only activate if it rauns |
| 22:56.36 | ubdead | rains* |
| 22:56.47 | Galois-evariste | I'm not a retard |
| 22:56.52 | Galois-evariste | I know the difference between a condition and an event |
| 22:57.00 | Galois-evariste | This is not what I don't understand |
| 22:57.05 | Galois-evariste | You're telling me what I already know |
| 22:57.14 | Alpha_vst | well you said you didn't... |
| 22:57.23 | Galois-evariste | Then you misunderstood |
| 22:57.33 | Galois-evariste | The things that go in the condition section |
| 22:57.34 | Galois-evariste | are not conditions |
| 22:57.44 | Shuuffle | wat |
| 22:57.45 | Galois-evariste | they are wordsl ike AND and OR and shit |
| 22:57.49 | Galois-evariste | this makes no sense to me |
| 22:57.50 | Shuuffle | Ahhh |
| 22:57.51 | Galois-evariste | furthermore |
| 22:57.56 | Shuuffle | Use Comparison |
| 22:57.58 | Galois-evariste | I cannot move the fucking actions into it |
| 22:58.03 | Galois-evariste | this makes no sense to me |
| 22:58.09 | Galois-evariste | the only thing that can trigger my actions are events |
| 22:58.11 | ubdead | how is an action an condition |
| 22:58.13 | Alpha_vst | actions dont go into conditions... |
| 22:58.19 | Galois-evariste | this makes no sense to me |
| 22:58.22 | Mojache | ARE |
| 22:58.22 | Mojache | YOU |
| 22:58.23 | Mojache | READY |
| 22:58.25 | Mojache | SKIZOT? |
| 22:58.37 | ubdead | I give up :) |
| 22:58.45 | Legick | galois i believe there is a video tutorial that would help you out |
| 22:58.57 | Legick | i'm a bit occupied currently but it shouldn't be too hard to find |
| 22:59.00 | Shuuffle | Events are like...super condition |
| 22:59.11 | Mojache | http://www.wittywizard.com/starcraft/platformer001.SC2Map |
| 22:59.11 | ubdead | no, events are events |
| 22:59.14 | Mojache | HOW LOW CAN YOU GO |
| 22:59.17 | Mojache | or high |
| 22:59.18 | Mojache | rather |
| 22:59.18 | Alpha_vst | i think we are confusing him more :P |
| 22:59.31 | Alpha_vst | even though it makes perfect sense |
| 22:59.41 | Mojache | A/D to move, space to jump |
| 22:59.44 | Shuuffle | So yeah, super conditions |
| 22:59.56 | Mojache | example of "Platforms" for a platformer ;o |
| 23:01.10 | ubdead | why cant we make RTS based custom maps lol |
| 23:01.25 | Grum | Mojache: broken file |
| 23:01.30 | Shuuffle | wtf is an RTS |
| 23:01.33 | Alpha_vst | i got it fine |
| 23:01.43 | Mojache | try it again grum |
| 23:01.46 | ubdead | lulz shuufle |
| 23:01.48 | Mojache | you might have clicked it super fast |
| 23:01.50 | Shuuffle | :P |
| 23:01.56 | heysparky | events are things that the game engine registers |
| 23:02.00 | Grum | ah second time it worked |
| 23:02.04 | heysparky | (for the most part) |
| 23:02.22 | Alpha_vst | OMG THAST FUN |
| 23:02.40 | Mojache | know what it needs? |
| 23:02.41 | Mojache | LAVA |
| 23:02.43 | Mojache | THAT RAISES |
| 23:03.13 | Skizot | Triceron you here? |
| 23:03.16 | ubdead | know what you need? |
| 23:03.18 | heysparky | oh, yeah, galois-- I had the same confusion - choose Comparison in that first dialog |
| 23:03.19 | ubdead | A CAPSLOCK |
| 23:03.33 | heysparky | galois - then a default condition is created |
| 23:03.44 | Alpha_vst | I HAVE MY SCRIPT FOR THAT!!!!!!! |
| 23:03.54 | ubdead | awesome map btw Mojache |
| 23:03.54 | heysparky | ggalois - double click on hte default condition and you should see the list of what you're looking for |
| 23:04.05 | Mojache | it's for Skizot's map |
| 23:04.12 | Mojache | because I told him he needed platforms |
| 23:04.19 | Mojache | for it to truely be like contra |
| 23:04.49 | Mojache | hmm what was that one map that had lava raising |
| 23:04.50 | ubdead | yeaaaa i made it!! |
| 23:04.53 | Mojache | need to steal that code |
| 23:04.55 | Alpha_vst | i can triple jump SWEET |
| 23:05.04 | Grum | Mojache: hehe its no code ;) |
| 23:05.07 | Grum | well barely |
| 23:05.19 | ubdead | oh lol, i didnt knew you could double/triple jump |
| 23:05.21 | Grum | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lava-proof-concept/ |
| 23:05.44 | ubdead | water tool -> add water -> edit water |
| 23:05.55 | heysparky | galois - not double click... sorry, click on the ( in the lowest pane of hte trigger editor... do you see it? |
| 23:06.28 | Grum | Mojache: how did you do the movement in your other map? |
| 23:06.42 | Mojache | I didn't Ziros did |
| 23:06.49 | Alpha_vst | lol grum i stole you lava concept :D |
| 23:07.00 | Mojache | I did it the first time, he went all crazy with angles and shit to make it smooth |
| 23:07.00 | Alpha_vst | i turned it into a multi level sexy beast |
| 23:07.02 | Grum | that is what it was for Alpha_vst :) |
| 23:07.05 | Vailreth | how would i set up a trigger so that when a varible reaches a specific value it preforms an action |
| 23:07.18 | Alpha_vst | i didnt know you did it :P |
| 23:07.31 | Grum | Mojache: i guess there is no sharing for that? |
| 23:07.42 | Mojache | if I could pull out just the movement I would |
| 23:07.49 | Mojache | but the movement code is tied in to so much |
| 23:07.51 | Grum | quite sure you can :) |
| 23:08.00 | Shuuffle | Vail, is this a periodic check? |
| 23:08.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jcup (~ad3a00ce@gateway/web/freenode/x-ientpkrpkmqtzcsx) |
| 23:08.29 | Vailreth | i dont know |
| 23:08.39 | Vailreth | i would like it to check every so often |
| 23:08.47 | Shuuffle | When does the variable change |
| 23:09.09 | Vailreth | the varible is added to with each player two unit killed |
| 23:09.22 | Shuuffle | okay, so Event would be when unit dies |
| 23:09.44 | Shuuffle | and condition would be comparison when variable = value |
| 23:10.42 | Vailreth | thanks |
| 23:11.24 | Galois-evariste | condition (Status of player Players) == Playing |
| 23:11.27 | Galois-evariste | wtf is Players |
| 23:11.33 | Galois-evariste | do I type this into the custom script section or what |
| 23:11.35 | Galois-evariste | ? |
| 23:11.54 | ubdead | not really |
| 23:12.01 | Galois-evariste | well its not in any of the lists |
| 23:12.03 | Galois-evariste | or presets |
| 23:12.17 | Grum | Mojache: mm if you cant cut it from the code mind showing the relevant code on your screen? i think that from what i can see that code results in the 'nicest' movement |
| 23:12.30 | Grum | (and its tested online) |
| 23:12.42 | ubdead | I think you might need some basic tutorials from the forum Galois |
| 23:12.57 | Grum | erm stream noy screen obviously ;D |
| 23:12.58 | Galois-evariste | i've already looked for those and found nothing useful |
| 23:13.03 | Grum | *not .. gawd tired |
| 23:13.07 | Galois-evariste | i wouldn't have come here if i didn't already try on my own |
| 23:13.58 | Galois-evariste | somebody said |
| 23:13.59 | Galois-evariste | condition (Status of player Players) == Playing |
| 23:14.02 | Galois-evariste | is what to make my condition |
| 23:14.05 | Galois-evariste | my question is |
| 23:14.12 | Galois-evariste | where the fuck do I find the word Players |
| 23:14.14 | Galois-evariste | because its not an option |
| 23:14.32 | Arthas- | cookie! |
| 23:14.38 | ubdead | that's pseudo code Galois |
| 23:14.51 | Galois-evariste | then why the fuck did they waste my time with bullshit |
| 23:15.05 | Arthas- | read pseudo code -> do |
| 23:15.09 | Arthas- | ^^ |
| 23:15.26 | ubdead | Galois please try to remain calm, we are only trying to help you |
| 23:15.41 | Arthas- | seriously, rrowlands traceline tutor is awesome |
| 23:16.02 | Galois-evariste | you're wasting my time |
| 23:16.15 | ubdead | I think it's the other way around Galois |
| 23:16.29 | Galois-evariste | you're not helping |
| 23:16.30 | Arthas- | if we are, how come you are still here? |
| 23:16.41 | Galois-evariste | show me somewhere else to go for help and i'll gtfo |
| 23:16.44 | Arthas- | that attitude wont get you anywhere |
| 23:16.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster RingBearer (~62d8a194@gateway/web/freenode/x-flsgxvjosmoaoebp) |
| 23:16.48 | Arthas- | forums.battle.net |
| 23:16.58 | *** part/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (wander@ip72-207-202-45.br.br.cox.net) |
| 23:16.59 | ubdead | www.angermanegement.com |
| 23:17.06 | Arthas- | geez |
| 23:17.48 | ubdead | the Galaxy Editor -> serious business |
| 23:18.05 | Arthas- | seriously |
| 23:18.12 | Arthas- | i need to get back to basic trigeometry |
| 23:18.22 | ubdead | Cos |
| 23:18.26 | Arthas- | im lost by rrows tutorial |
| 23:18.26 | ubdead | is all you need |
| 23:18.26 | Arthas- | nah |
| 23:18.27 | Arthas- | tan |
| 23:18.32 | ubdead | lol |
| 23:18.39 | Arthas- | cos is like 1+2 |
| 23:18.41 | ubdead | i hated trigeomerty lol |
| 23:18.43 | Arthas- | tan is like |
| 23:18.46 | Arthas- | bs |
| 23:18.49 | Arthas- | I hate calculus |
| 23:18.54 | Alpha_vst | Hey galios i was giving an example sorry :D Players is variable |
| 23:18.59 | Arthas- | in fact, I think the trigeometry was in there :\ |
| 23:19.01 | Mojache | Honestly grum, I have no idea how the movement code works |
| 23:19.04 | Arthas- | Alpha_vst he left |
| 23:19.04 | Mojache | thats all Ziros |
| 23:19.05 | Arthas- | lol |
| 23:19.15 | Grum | Mojache: meh! make him explain orso ;) |
| 23:19.15 | ubdead | he left in mega rage like 3 mins ago lol |
| 23:19.16 | Mojache | theres parts of the map I just don't really touch |
| 23:19.24 | Alpha_vst | oh what ever :P |
| 23:19.36 | Alpha_vst | moron sigh |
| 23:19.40 | Mojache | I "Believe" he calculates an angle |
| 23:19.40 | Grum | well you should have *some* idae, you did the weapons too right? :) |
| 23:19.41 | Arthas- | no shit |
| 23:19.45 | Mojache | based on what keys you have pressed |
| 23:19.53 | Arthas- | read up on his rant when ub told him it was pseudo code |
| 23:19.54 | Mojache | so if you have A+W pressed |
| 23:19.56 | Arthas- | i lol'd |
| 23:20.00 | Grum | well those calculcations are all trivial |
| 23:20.03 | ubdead | same here lol |
| 23:20.09 | Mojache | it calculates the angle and tells your dude to run that direction |
| 23:20.13 | Arthas- | so |
| 23:20.13 | Grum | move curious in how the 'smoothness' gets made |
| 23:20.17 | Arthas- | like hatis wsad then? |
| 23:20.18 | ubdead | how hard can i be to do a simple condition lol |
| 23:20.19 | Mojache | thats how its smoth |
| 23:20.29 | Mojache | he uses conditions |
| 23:20.34 | Mojache | to figure out which keys are pressed |
| 23:20.36 | Arthas- | well |
| 23:20.39 | Mojache | basically it would work like this |
| 23:20.42 | Mojache | if you had WASD |
| 23:20.55 | Mojache | and then seperate conditions for W and A, W and D and just W |
| 23:20.59 | Grum | how often does it update? |
| 23:21.03 | Mojache | 0.05 |
| 23:21.21 | Arthas- | was that code smooth online? |
| 23:21.21 | ubdead | i think 0.002 is the minimum |
| 23:21.30 | Mojache | now how did this guy add a new water state |
| 23:21.36 | Mojache | damn editor wont add one |
| 23:21.39 | Grum | Mojache: i did it hehe |
| 23:21.41 | Grum | and erm |
| 23:21.47 | Grum | go to water |
| 23:21.52 | ubdead | Mojache, Water tool -> Add water -> Edit water |
| 23:22.03 | Grum | it wont show edit water by default |
| 23:22.18 | Arthas- | hyarion |
| 23:22.19 | Grum | oh it does |
| 23:22.20 | Arthas- | this weekend |
| 23:22.24 | Grum | make sure you selected your water |
| 23:22.24 | Alpha_vst | yeah water is lame |
| 23:22.25 | Arthas- | you and me are doing crash course on math |
| 23:22.33 | Arthas- | you need to revive my awesome skills! |
| 23:22.36 | Grum | Arthas-: what kind of math? |
| 23:22.41 | Arthas- | calculus! |
| 23:22.52 | Arthas- | 3y since i opened the cursed book |
| 23:22.58 | Arthas- | and failed my course due to uhm |
| 23:22.58 | Arthas- | beer |
| 23:22.59 | Grum | goniometrics? |
| 23:22.59 | hyarion | Arthas-: haha nice |
| 23:23.00 | hyarion | sure |
| 23:23.06 | hyarion | beer + calc = win |
| 23:23.07 | Arthas- | trigeometrythingie |
| 23:23.14 | Grum | not much more useful for games than that |
| 23:23.14 | Arthas- | not in my case |
| 23:23.30 | Arthas- | beer + calc -> more beer -> origo -> hangover day of exam -> fail |
| 23:23.37 | ubdead | i did a 2D flying game once |
| 23:23.42 | ubdead | the psysics |
| 23:23.46 | ubdead | oh, my, god |
| 23:23.47 | ubdead | lol |
| 23:23.50 | Arthas- | :) |
| 23:24.04 | Grum | i dont get it hehe its all not so hard :( |
| 23:24.11 | Arthas- | hyarion we are gonna hax some maps this weekend |
| 23:24.16 | Arthas- | saturday i think |
| 23:24.21 | Arthas- | so no drinking friday |
| 23:24.26 | ubdead | not everbody has an IQ near 150 |
| 23:24.29 | ubdead | :( |
| 23:24.50 | hyarion | Arthas-: do you have anal-1:an or what? |
| 23:24.50 | Grum | ubdead: that statement makes no sense hehe |
| 23:25.01 | Grum | if everyone had an iq near 150 the avg iq would be 100 :p |
| 23:25.05 | Arthas- | ubdead |
| 23:25.05 | Arthas- | Good artists copy; great artists steal. |
| 23:25.18 | Grum | steal and modify and rebrand as their own |
| 23:25.21 | Arthas- | one of the many wise quotes blabbered by jobs |
| 23:25.27 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 23:25.28 | Arthas- | more or less |
| 23:25.31 | Arthas- | apple <3 |
| 23:25.34 | Arthas- | filty thieves |
| 23:25.40 | Grum | erm you mean windows |
| 23:25.41 | Alpha_vst | grrrrr hmmmm |
| 23:25.42 | Arthas- | no |
| 23:25.44 | Arthas- | i mean apple |
| 23:25.48 | Arthas- | windows aswell |
| 23:25.49 | Grum | what did they steal? |
| 23:25.58 | Arthas- | oh screw you |
| 23:26.02 | Arthas- | im not even going there tonight |
| 23:26.03 | Arthas- | :p |
| 23:26.07 | ubdead | Windows stole the mouse idea from apple lol |
| 23:26.21 | Grum | windows stole the ... windows idea from apple >< |
| 23:26.33 | ubdead | I love Bill Gates |
| 23:26.37 | Arthas- | same |
| 23:26.42 | Arthas- | although i dont support ms :p |
| 23:26.46 | Arthas- | but seriously |
| 23:26.49 | Arthas- | bill gates did many rights |
| 23:27.25 | ubdead | he should have a nobel price for world annoyance |
| 23:27.32 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:27.35 | Arthas- | ^^ |
| 23:28.12 | ubdead | i must admit windows 7 is pretty good |
| 23:28.26 | ubdead | not one blue screen to date |
| 23:28.33 | Arthas- | ive managed to blue screen! |
| 23:28.34 | ubdead | 2 years running |
| 23:28.43 | Triceron | noob q - how do I go into unit selection mode? I'm in unit placement mode |
| 23:28.46 | Alpha_vst | im cheating at my game woot :D |
| 23:28.50 | Arthas- | Triceron hit space |
| 23:28.54 | ubdead | press space ;) |
| 23:28.55 | Alpha_vst | press spacebar |
| 23:28.56 | Triceron | thx |
| 23:28.59 | Arthas- | np |
| 23:29.13 | ubdead | it's not cheating if they dont catch you |
| 23:29.16 | Alpha_vst | took me a while to figure out also |
| 23:29.16 | Azu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iodqd9zOP78 |
| 23:29.27 | Arthas- | Arthas- ubdead and Alpha_vst sc2mapster premium support! |
| 23:29.30 | Alpha_vst | its cheating when you give yoru self 1000 dm g |
| 23:29.40 | Arthas- | azu you are swede, its late for you |
| 23:29.44 | Arthas- | you should be sleeping |
| 23:29.47 | Azu | pfft |
| 23:30.00 | ubdead | Azu that song doesn't really mix with my Bob Marley atm lol |
| 23:30.06 | Azu | :P |
| 23:30.28 | ubdead | best, game, ever : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUaKxFjlOpw |
| 23:30.37 | Azu | how about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1pjpj6FBsg ? |
| 23:30.50 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOFUL9u89Dg |
| 23:30.54 | Arthas- | listen to teller! |
| 23:30.58 | Triceron | How does unit model scaling work? These numbers confuse me |
| 23:31.01 | Arthas- | penn* |
| 23:31.08 | ubdead | triceron: 1 = 100% |
| 23:31.13 | ubdead | 0.5 = 50% |
| 23:31.15 | Triceron | I set it all to 3.0000000, and the more 0's I add it shrinks |
| 23:31.24 | Triceron | for scale max |
| 23:31.29 | Azu | Arthas- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTKPcrPmgPI typ |
| 23:31.36 | ubdead | 2 = twice as big |
| 23:31.45 | ubdead | 3 = three times as big |
| 23:31.47 | Arthas- | Azu hahaha |
| 23:31.52 | Arthas- | wtf |
| 23:32.04 | ubdead | AZU: WE ARE NOW GOOD FRIENDS |
| 23:32.09 | Azu | lol why? :P |
| 23:32.21 | ubdead | i FUICKING, LOVE, LUCKY STAR |
| 23:32.24 | Azu | haha |
| 23:32.25 | Azu | same |
| 23:32.32 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZEoe5ByNu8 |
| 23:32.34 | Arthas- | ubdead |
| 23:32.34 | Azu | its epic |
| 23:32.37 | Arthas- | can we be friends too? |
| 23:32.44 | ubdead | sure thing lol |
| 23:32.51 | Azu | haha |
| 23:32.56 | Arthas- | actually |
| 23:33.02 | Arthas- | i need to rewatch both kimi ga and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQFPQo1cD7c |
| 23:33.06 | Arthas- | latter is awesome |
| 23:33.08 | ubdead | this is my all time favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS_DzZjeHjU |
| 23:33.16 | Arthas- | not boring vampires like in twilight faggotry shimmering |
| 23:33.23 | heysparky | what genius at blizz thought the editor should have sounds? |
| 23:33.36 | ubdead | you can turn them off in preferences ;) |
| 23:33.43 | Arthas- | no you cant lol |
| 23:33.46 | Arthas- | I just get a popup |
| 23:33.49 | Azu | angel beats! is also epic imo |
| 23:33.56 | Arthas- | "Im sorry <username>, I can't let you do that" |
| 23:34.07 | Arthas- | not entirly true |
| 23:34.10 | Triceron | these numbers aren't working at all for model scale :S |
| 23:34.10 | Arthas- | but it would be awesome |
| 23:34.31 | Arthas- | shingetsutan tsukihime = awesome |
| 23:34.35 | Arthas- | there, I said it |
| 23:34.39 | ubdead | Triceron, what exactly numbers are you using |
| 23:34.50 | Azu | ah |
| 23:34.51 | ubdead | (wow grammar fail) |
| 23:34.51 | Azu | thatone |
| 23:35.01 | Azu | saw it a long time ago |
| 23:35.10 | Arthas- | ubdead its ok, we all fail sometime! |
| 23:35.17 | Azu | :/ |
| 23:35.29 | Arthas- | Azu its awesome |
| 23:35.30 | Arthas- | ! |
| 23:35.32 | ubdead | i need to step up my English |
| 23:35.33 | Azu | hehe |
| 23:35.38 | Arthas- | then we have she the ultimate weapon |
| 23:35.42 | Arthas- | Saikano i think |
| 23:35.47 | Arthas- | To Heart |
| 23:35.48 | Arthas- | :D |
| 23:35.50 | Arthas- | ok |
| 23:35.56 | Arthas- | im tripping dangerously close to gay |
| 23:36.05 | Azu | ><? |
| 23:36.11 | Triceron | I model swapped out the Hellion |
| 23:36.17 | Triceron | and my model is too small |
| 23:36.18 | RingBearer | Bah localization failed |
| 23:36.27 | Triceron | so I'm changing the Max scale up |
| 23:36.31 | Arthas- | what is the series i think of called Azu |
| 23:36.40 | Arthas- | a boy, 2 girls (sisters) and he is a thief |
| 23:36.44 | Arthas- | and an angel |
| 23:36.45 | Arthas- | :p |
| 23:36.51 | Azu | lols |
| 23:36.54 | Arthas- | they are like 11-13y old or so |
| 23:36.55 | Azu | http://i41.tinypic.com/2yukprm.jpg |
| 23:36.56 | Triceron | the numbers that are there are like 0.75000 .0.75000 .0.75000 |
| 23:36.57 | ubdead | Max scale up? How about changing the "Scale" field |
| 23:37.08 | ubdead | that would be 75% |
| 23:37.25 | ubdead | so any number under 1 would make your model smaller |
| 23:37.29 | Azu | i gave your "favshow" 7 |
| 23:37.36 | Azu | out of 10 |
| 23:37.49 | Triceron | there's Scalemax and Scalemin numbers |
| 23:37.55 | ubdead | oh THOSE |
| 23:37.55 | Triceron | that's what I figured |
| 23:37.57 | Triceron | but it's not |
| 23:38.03 | RingBearer | When I add files to the LocalizedData folder to solve localization... what "rules" should I use |
| 23:38.06 | ubdead | no no, thats for variation |
| 23:38.09 | Triceron | is there another scale parameter? |
| 23:38.16 | Arthas- | dn angel! |
| 23:38.16 | Arthas- | :D |
| 23:38.17 | ubdead | use the normal "Scale" field |
| 23:38.33 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p8pi7FKQjg |
| 23:38.36 | Azu | never watched dn angel |
| 23:38.38 | Arthas- | yes, yes im officially gay now |
| 23:38.43 | Arthas- | good for you |
| 23:38.45 | Arthas- | :p |
| 23:38.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Statcomm (~61742241@gateway/web/freenode/x-hcqqzdjblfmalkrf) |
| 23:38.52 | Azu | i know your into traps |
| 23:38.56 | heysparky | later folks |
| 23:38.57 | Arthas- | ;) |
| 23:39.02 | Statcomm | Wazza? |
| 23:39.04 | Triceron | I can't find a normal Scale field |
| 23:39.05 | Azu | ill take that as a "yes" |
| 23:39.08 | *** part/#sc2mapster heysparky (~heysparky@216.40.136.42) |
| 23:39.10 | Triceron | is it in Model? |
| 23:39.26 | ubdead | no it's in the actor for the model |
| 23:39.39 | ubdead | the Actor controls the model |
| 23:39.45 | ubdead | and its animations |
| 23:39.54 | Arthas- | yeah Azu |
| 23:40.06 | Arthas- | I always fell for rosette pics |
| 23:40.13 | ubdead | do you guys remember the lucky star endings |
| 23:40.14 | Triceron | ohhh |
| 23:40.16 | Triceron | actors |
| 23:40.29 | Triceron | I don't even know what those do, but I'll take a look |
| 23:40.32 | Triceron | thanks |
| 23:40.34 | ubdead | Actors pretty much represent everything in the world |
| 23:40.43 | hyarion | Arthas-: btw, it kinda sucks being in the hacker space alone ^^ |
| 23:40.45 | Azu | ubdead i remember the show itself |
| 23:40.51 | Arthas- | hyarion are you there now? |
| 23:40.53 | Azu | :P |
| 23:40.56 | hyarion | yeah |
| 23:40.59 | ubdead | oh god the endings are freaking hilarious |
| 23:41.00 | Arthas- | what for |
| 23:41.03 | Arthas- | you missed bus home? =p |
| 23:41.15 | Arthas- | or did you decide it was time for someone to have their own time in the space |
| 23:41.19 | Statcomm | I just want the Lucky Star opening |
| 23:41.20 | Arthas- | joy time* |
| 23:41.28 | Azu | :p |
| 23:41.32 | Statcomm | "I wan somesin! Mawikonoideido!" |
| 23:41.37 | Azu | seen the ova (i hope for your sake!) |
| 23:41.43 | Arthas- | pirupiru pi-piru piiii |
| 23:41.47 | hyarion | Arthas-: well not realyl sure |
| 23:41.48 | Azu | kagami+miku=win |
| 23:42.04 | Statcomm | Arthas, that sounds like Bokusatsu che Dokuro chan |
| 23:42.05 | Arthas- | whats the series w the teacher who always eats chocolate called |
| 23:42.09 | ubdead | the OVa |
| 23:42.09 | Arthas- | Statcomm correct |
| 23:42.10 | Azu | it is |
| 23:42.11 | ubdead | oh god |
| 23:42.12 | Skizot | http://i40.tinypic.com/34etg6w.jpg |
| 23:42.19 | Statcomm | Bwehehe knew it |
| 23:42.20 | Azu | nice :D |
| 23:42.24 | Arthas- | nice Skizot |
| 23:42.28 | ubdead | sweet Skizot |
| 23:42.33 | Azu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ELRZ08hNaU |
| 23:42.38 | Skizot | gonna rob the regular templar now. |
| 23:42.39 | Skizot | :D |
| 23:42.43 | Arthas- | azu thats the one! |
| 23:42.49 | Arthas- | now |
| 23:42.50 | Azu | lyrics (y) |
| 23:42.52 | Statcomm | Skizot, really want to grab that rifle and test it out |
| 23:42.55 | Arthas- | wtf is the one im thinking of called |
| 23:42.59 | Arthas- | also I hope youve seen this one |
| 23:43.06 | Skizot | they are just item models |
| 23:43.10 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cf7XawG8Y |
| 23:43.12 | Skizot | for pickups. |
| 23:43.16 | Statcomm | Can they do actions by themselves Skizot? |
| 23:43.19 | ubdead | Piru Piru Piru Piru~~~~~~ |
| 23:43.22 | Skizot | no? |
| 23:43.26 | Azu | ive seen that show |
| 23:43.28 | Arthas- | I remember having lots of Under 17-songs on DC share in the beginning of 2000 or whatever |
| 23:43.30 | Azu | but not op :P |
| 23:43.32 | Arthas- | Seriously |
| 23:43.38 | Arthas- | ppl where downloading the under 17 folder like crazy |
| 23:43.39 | Statcomm | Shame Skizot, would've been fun to have weapons swinging around by themselves. |
| 23:43.43 | Arthas- | and i doubt it was due to the music >_< |
| 23:43.48 | Azu | :P |
| 23:44.04 | ubdead | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5pV2BHzN48 best anime ending ever |
| 23:44.13 | Arthas- | if thats berserk ill kill you |
| 23:44.14 | Azu | haha |
| 23:44.22 | ubdead | mi-mi-miracle run run mi mi mi |
| 23:44.26 | Arthas- | look, you live to see tomorrow! :D |
| 23:45.04 | Arthas- | this is the second time this year youtube recommends teletubbies to me |
| 23:45.09 | Azu | haha |
| 23:45.11 | Arthas- | it disturbs me |
| 23:45.13 | Statcomm | Btw guys, I've been seing the news about the imported models and stuff, I'm confused, you just import the models as they are, or do they come with their animations etc...? |
| 23:45.18 | Statcomm | seeing* |
| 23:45.36 | Azu | Arthas- http://i41.tinypic.com/1oxipw.jpg says it all |
| 23:45.43 | Azu | k-on (y) |
| 23:45.59 | Azu | dno wtf twiligt is doing there :s |
| 23:46.07 | Arthas- | lol |
| 23:46.16 | ubdead | Azu you would be amazed at the thing Youtube recommends me |
| 23:46.30 | Azu | :p |
| 23:46.37 | Azu | scenes from kissxsis? :p |
| 23:46.53 | ubdead | last time, i got a foot fetisch movie |
| 23:46.58 | Azu | HA |
| 23:47.12 | Statcomm | Nvm, need my eyesight fixed, static models currently |
| 23:47.14 | Azu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqGbE9yLLA4&playnext_from=TL&videos=q-GAMDWZ0Yk&feature=grec |
| 23:47.27 | ubdead | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBN8Fg7CvaY |
| 23:47.32 | ubdead | srsly wtf is this shit |
| 23:47.43 | Azu | wth >< |
| 23:47.46 | Arthas- | wtf |
| 23:47.55 | Arthas- | uis that from the series? |
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| 23:48.15 | Arthas- | hahaha |
| 23:48.16 | Arthas- | ubdead |
| 23:48.20 | Statcomm | ./facepalm |
| 23:48.22 | Statcomm | Ubdead, lol? |
| 23:48.24 | Arthas- | if that infects my recommended video list ill come for ya |
| 23:48.33 | ubdead | HAHA IT WILL |
| 23:48.36 | Arthas- | NOES |
| 23:48.38 | ubdead | it's evil i tell you |
| 23:49.08 | Statcomm | btw Arthas, konata playing mmo is win |
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| 23:49.09 | Azu | i get mostly 50% anime related and 50% metal music :P |
| 23:49.13 | Statcomm | I mean azu* |
| 23:49.19 | Azu | i know :p |
| 23:49.32 | Arthas- | btw |
| 23:49.35 | Arthas- | did you see uhm |
| 23:49.36 | Azu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpYIKF1wuyE&playnext_from=TL&videos=bP8wyO0fuHs is also win |
| 23:49.37 | Arthas- | Spice & Wolf |
| 23:49.39 | Azu | yeah |
| 23:49.41 | ubdead | sc2mapster IRC -> 50% anime 50% foot fetisch |
| 23:49.45 | Statcomm | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN8aiN6wbH0 more win |
| 23:49.45 | Arthas- | when is s03 coming |
| 23:49.47 | Arthas- | I WANT IT NAO |
| 23:49.49 | Azu | dno |
| 23:49.53 | Azu | havent seen s2 yet |
| 23:49.57 | Azu | for some reason :s |
| 23:50.05 | Arthas- | explain yourself |
| 23:50.13 | Azu | was |
| 23:50.14 | Azu | ehm |
| 23:50.17 | Rectifier | i don't see this so-called foot fetish... |
| 23:50.22 | Azu | watching feets on youtube? |
| 23:50.36 | Arthas- | found it i think |
| 23:50.39 | Arthas- | Onegai Teacher |
| 23:50.43 | Azu | ah |
| 23:50.49 | Azu | seen it :P |
| 23:51.03 | ubdead | Rectifier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBN8Fg7CvaY |
| 23:51.03 | Arthas- | she always eats chocolate sticks or some shit like that or? |
| 23:51.09 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 23:51.11 | Arthas- | thats her for syure |
| 23:51.37 | Azu | love hina is also a classic |
| 23:51.39 | Arthas- | ive seen way to much school animes |
| 23:51.39 | Statcomm | Lol "douchebagistan" from autotuned video |
| 23:51.48 | Azu | hehe |
| 23:51.50 | Statcomm | Is there an anime with no school? |
| 23:51.52 | Azu | school animes are win :P |
| 23:51.53 | Statcomm | lol |
| 23:51.55 | Azu | and |
| 23:51.56 | Azu | lol |
| 23:51.57 | Arthas- | Statcomm ofc! |
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| 23:52.00 | Azu | seen "school days"? |
| 23:52.03 | Statcomm | Even Code Geass has schools =/ |
| 23:52.03 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 23:52.07 | Statcomm | Arthas? srsly? |
| 23:52.08 | Arthas- | give me like |
| 23:52.11 | Arthas- | 5 days |
| 23:52.12 | Rectifier | so they're feet. |
| 23:52.13 | Arthas- | and ill find one |
| 23:52.15 | Rectifier | who cares |
| 23:52.24 | Statcomm | Ubdead does apparently :P |
| 23:52.39 | Arthas- | Rectifier more or less everyone chatting atm :p |
| 23:52.43 | Rectifier | there are some fetishes i understand |
| 23:52.49 | Rectifier | i don't really get the feet thing |
| 23:52.52 | Statcomm | Alright Arthas, you're now on a quest to find anime with no schools. |
| 23:52.52 | Arthas- | haha |
| 23:52.53 | ubdead | well youtube tells me i like them, so i guess i like them |
| 23:53.00 | Arthas- | arnold schwarzenegger clips! |
| 23:53.03 | ubdead | youtube cant be wrong right |
| 23:53.04 | Azu | give me 10min and ill find one |
| 23:53.06 | Arthas- | my youtube recommended clips got buffed |
| 23:53.11 | Rectifier | a good anime without a school? |
| 23:53.17 | Statcomm | Yes |
| 23:53.17 | ubdead | One Piece? |
| 23:53.19 | Arthas- | hentai? |
| 23:53.21 | Rectifier | Hokuto no Ken, the best anime ever made |
| 23:53.25 | Statcomm | No no hentai! |
| 23:53.27 | Azu | spice and wolf |
| 23:53.28 | Azu | good |
| 23:53.29 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 23:53.30 | Azu | and no school |
| 23:53.31 | Arthas- | Azu |
| 23:53.33 | Arthas- | true |
| 23:53.33 | Arthas- | lol |
| 23:53.37 | Arthas- | spice & wolf is awesome |
| 23:53.37 | Azu | :p |
| 23:53.40 | Arthas- | although a bit different |
| 23:53.44 | Azu | well |
| 23:53.47 | ubdead | so many anime's to watch so little time |
| 23:53.49 | Rectifier | horo is the entire show >.> |
| 23:53.49 | Azu | its "serious" |
| 23:53.53 | Azu | y |
| 23:53.54 | Azu | horo <3 |
| 23:53.59 | Statcomm | Need an epic anime though |
| 23:54.04 | Arthas- | Rectifier i saw some awesome rule34 horo |
| 23:54.04 | Rectifier | there are so many crappy animes atm |
| 23:54.08 | Statcomm | Something like Code Geass, Death NOte, makes you cringe |
| 23:54.10 | Arthas- | on deviantart |
| 23:54.12 | Azu | higurashi? |
| 23:54.13 | ubdead | Azumanga Daioh is awesome |
| 23:54.18 | Arthas- | really really good brush thingie |
| 23:54.20 | Rectifier | you mean the oil painting-ish one |
| 23:54.23 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 23:54.26 | Arthas- | seriously |
| 23:54.29 | Statcomm | Planetes was good also |
| 23:54.29 | Arthas- | that one is awesome |
| 23:54.29 | Rectifier | i think everyone's seen that who is a fan |
| 23:54.44 | Arthas- | :D |
| 23:54.45 | ubdead | HARIMA KENJI |
| 23:54.48 | Arthas- | OH FFS |
| 23:54.50 | Rectifier | i used to have it saved until my last laptop bricked |
| 23:54.54 | Arthas- | I lost my spice & wolf manga |
| 23:54.54 | Arthas- | :< |
| 23:54.58 | Statcomm | School Rumble forever! |
| 23:55.00 | Arthas- | it was on the disk i lost key for :( |
| 23:55.03 | Arthas- | someone provide! |
| 23:55.03 | Azu | http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/coldvinc/Horo_sleep.jpg?t=1273708490 (y) |
| 23:55.15 | Azu | haha school rumble >< |
| 23:55.22 | Rectifier | you know what's a great book? The Gathering Storm by Robert Jordan |
| 23:55.27 | Statcomm | I've yet to find another anime as funny as School Rumble |
| 23:55.30 | ubdead | indeed |
| 23:55.33 | Statcomm | I almost barfed one day out of laughter |
| 23:55.40 | ubdead | the beach episode |
| 23:55.50 | Statcomm | My stomach cramped out of laughter most of the time X'D |
| 23:55.58 | ubdead | i was laughing so hard my roommate came to check if i way ok |
| 23:56.00 | Rectifier | oh, Ghost in the Shell is a great anime without a school |
| 23:56.05 | Statcomm | Lmfao |
| 23:56.07 | Azu | seen haruhi? |
| 23:56.16 | Azu | http://myanimelist.net/anime/849/Suzumiya_Haruhi_no_Yuuutsu |
| 23:56.18 | Azu | win |
| 23:56.23 | Statcomm | My funniest moment was prbbly the painting episode |
| 23:56.26 | Rectifier | don't watch the endless eight season though. |
| 23:56.30 | Statcomm | With apparent "nudity" that wasn't really that :P |
| 23:56.33 | Azu | 2nd season |
| 23:56.36 | Azu | is fail |
| 23:56.45 | Azu | clannad s1 and s2 were also nice |
| 23:56.46 | Rectifier | unless your a hardcore fan who read the light novels like me |
| 23:56.47 | ubdead | best anime i've seen to date must have been Full Metal Alchemist |
| 23:56.49 | Statcomm | Never actually saw Suzuyama, watched some of it and couldn't catch on |
| 23:57.00 | Rectifier | Lucky Star. |
| 23:57.08 | ubdead | the artwork is dreamy |
| 23:57.08 | Rectifier | Azumanga Daioh |
| 23:57.11 | Azu | shakugan no shana was also awesome |
| 23:57.12 | Statcomm | Ubdead, FMA was imba true, but what of Code Geass/Death Note? |
| 23:57.20 | ubdead | haven't seen them |
| 23:57.21 | RingBearer | gurren lagann... 'nuff said |
| 23:57.24 | Rectifier | Minami-ke |
| 23:57.28 | Azu | (y) |
| 23:57.36 | Azu | http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Azu-Nyan |
| 23:57.38 | ubdead | I'm watching all the One Piece episodes now |
| 23:57.40 | Statcomm | Ubdead, seriously good ones. By clamp etc.. |
| 23:57.44 | ubdead | almost cought up |
| 23:57.51 | Statcomm | And amen Rectifier. Kamina is my idol. |
| 23:57.54 | Rectifier | FMA isn't that great compared to FMA:B |
| 23:58.03 | ubdead | and Naruto became 90% filler |
| 23:58.10 | Azu | naruto anime sucks |
| 23:58.14 | Azu | manga frikkin win |
| 23:58.23 | ubdead | im not that into manga |
| 23:58.25 | Statcomm | Someone bomb Naruto please. ANd katekyo hitman. Like forever running lol |
| 23:58.28 | Rectifier | the brotherhood one is written like a book and makes much more sense than the original anime version in hiindsight. |
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| 23:58.47 | Rectifier | hopefully bleach ends soon |
| 23:58.51 | ubdead | ye i've been meaning to start watching brotherhood |
| 23:58.55 | Azu | fma2 is based on the manga |
| 23:58.55 | Arthas- | wth is oikl painting |
| 23:59.01 | Rectifier | because i think Kubo is ending his huge arc |
| 23:59.01 | ubdead | seems to be a 1:1 manga copy |
| 23:59.09 | Rectifier | yeah it is |
| 23:59.27 | ubdead | what was the Fire guy called agian |
| 23:59.27 | Azu | anyone seen air? |
| 23:59.33 | ubdead | i think it's a general |
| 23:59.36 | Rectifier | colonel mustang |
| 23:59.40 | Statcomm | No the colonel |
| 23:59.43 | ubdead | that's him :D |
| 23:59.44 | RingBearer | The brother in Gurren Lagann is one of the most ridicious characters ever. His image is next to the definition of "Crazy Awesome" |
| 23:59.47 | ubdead | fucking epic |
| 23:59.54 | Rectifier | its too bad |
| 23:59.54 | Statcomm | Brother? |
| 23:59.59 | Statcomm | You mean Kamina? |
