| 00:00.00 | TheRipper | good afternoon gentlemen |
| 00:00.00 | ckknight | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-language/arrays/ |
| 00:00.05 | ckknight | y helo thar, TheRipper |
| 00:00.07 | uBdead | hehe thats right |
| 00:00.11 | TheRipper | You can do that in the data editor, Hybred |
| 00:00.28 | wacko | <@ckknight> void Thingy(int[8]* blah) { } |
| 00:00.35 | uBdead | does javascript use structs? |
| 00:00.36 | wacko | I am pretty sure thats not going to work when the game ships |
| 00:00.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster payne (~18c93393@gateway/web/freenode/x-ihoncntookmkstur) |
| 00:00.42 | payne | hai nubs! ^^ |
| 00:00.46 | omeg | hmm |
| 00:00.51 | payne | :P |
| 00:00.57 | payne | can someone tell me how to enable all spells at once? |
| 00:01.23 | TheRipper | what do you mean, enable? |
| 00:01.30 | payne | Researched. |
| 00:01.34 | omeg | ckknight: is there a way to import galaxy file to the editor? |
| 00:01.45 | uBdead | remove the requirements for the spells payne |
| 00:01.50 | Motive | use the import module, omeg. |
| 00:01.53 | payne | where |
| 00:02.02 | Motive | you can import a file as say "blah.galaxy" and rename it to MapScript.galaxy in the root directory. |
| 00:02.05 | payne | and the question was " can we do it for ALL spells at ONCE " :o |
| 00:02.06 | ckknight | omeg: no idea, haven't played with it enough yet |
| 00:02.09 | HyBReD | TheRipper, what do you mean |
| 00:02.11 | Motive | that's what I've been doing. |
| 00:02.11 | omeg | ok |
| 00:02.31 | ckknight | uBdead: ECMAScript 3 and 5 do not have an official struct implementation, but it can be faked with objects (and much better with ECMAScript 5) |
| 00:02.34 | Motive | if you open the Script Editor though it will reset the MapScript back to normal |
| 00:02.45 | uBdead | grrr... events are pretty hard master |
| 00:02.47 | ckknight | wacko: it'll work. No reason for it not to. |
| 00:02.49 | payne | Guys |
| 00:02.50 | TheRipper | Hybred, In the data editor, under the unit you want to give exp/gold, theres a field for giving X exp or X resources after death |
| 00:02.56 | wacko | it does not work right now |
| 00:03.01 | wacko | gives a syntax error |
| 00:03.01 | payne | there is no way to have all spells researched by default? |
| 00:03.06 | ckknight | wacko: ah, hmm |
| 00:03.09 | uBdead | how can i tell when what events fire? |
| 00:03.14 | ckknight | wacko: well, you could always package it in a struct. |
| 00:03.15 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 00:03.15 | uBdead | other then "guess" |
| 00:03.19 | wacko | yes you could :P |
| 00:03.23 | Motive | read their descriptions in the editor, uBdead. they're mostly self-explanatory. mostly. |
| 00:03.33 | TheRipper | uBdead, just read what they are, yeah |
| 00:03.37 | wacko | I do not think you can use * anything anymore |
| 00:03.42 | uBdead | well i think most have double meanings |
| 00:03.43 | TheRipper | we can help you if you dont understand one ;) |
| 00:03.44 | Valaraukador | exactly what are the "Starmaps" for. Do they have a practical use yet? |
| 00:03.50 | Xorgat3 | anybody know how i can attach multiple models to a single unit? |
| 00:03.51 | TheRipper | Give an example, uBdead |
| 00:03.54 | HyBReD | TheRipper: thats not my problem. my problem is that im killing a unit through triggers, which means that i dont have my Hero doing any action on its own. so the unit just "dies". doesnt give gold, or xp. because it MY unit didnt kill it, the trigger did |
| 00:03.56 | wacko | I think pointers have been removed all together |
| 00:04.06 | ckknight | wacko: ...you sure> |
| 00:04.07 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:04.08 | ckknight | wth |
| 00:04.13 | uBdead | ActorCreation |
| 00:04.15 | ckknight | bah, gonna need to do more research now |
| 00:04.18 | Motive | Glad I didn't rely on pointers then. :) |
| 00:04.19 | uBdead | when exactly does that fire |
| 00:04.23 | Valaraukador | did they fully implement mousetracking or whatever it was called in wc3? |
| 00:04.24 | ckknight | that totally screws with things |
| 00:04.36 | wacko | I am pretty sure they removed them :p |
| 00:04.42 | TheRipper | HyBReD, say when the unit dies, under player there should be a give/set resource action. just add whatever to the owner of the hero unit, the hero unit should be assigned to a variable |
| 00:04.51 | ckknight | wacko: can you pass structs in functions, then? |
| 00:05.04 | TheRipper | uBdead that doesn t sound like an event... do you mean action?... let me look |
| 00:05.13 | TheRipper | havnt even opened the editor yet.. XD |
| 00:05.39 | HyBReD | ok thats fine |
| 00:05.41 | HyBReD | but what about XP |
| 00:05.42 | HyBReD | the real issue |
| 00:05.43 | HyBReD | haha |
| 00:06.15 | payne | Where do I make all the spells researched? D= |
| 00:06.27 | TheRipper | Once again using the hero in a variable |
| 00:06.34 | TheRipper | you should be able to go to unit- add experience |
| 00:06.37 | TheRipper | or something like that |
| 00:06.42 | TheRipper | let me get the exact name |
| 00:06.43 | TheRipper | UNLESS |
| 00:06.46 | TheRipper | thats not in this editor |
| 00:06.48 | TheRipper | then.... |
| 00:06.50 | TheRipper | hmm |
| 00:06.54 | HyBReD | its not |
| 00:06.54 | HyBReD | lol |
| 00:07.00 | TheRipper | okay |
| 00:07.03 | wacko | you can ckknight |
| 00:07.06 | TheRipper | theres a few 'hacky' ways to do this |
| 00:07.32 | ckknight | wacko: does it pass by reference or value? (that is, if you edit data inside the struct, will it transport those edits back to where you called from?) |
| 00:07.38 | omeg | wacko: you sure? i get syntax error :P |
| 00:07.42 | uBdead | say i would like to master events, what a good way to learn about them |
| 00:07.47 | wacko | yes omeg :P |
| 00:07.50 | wacko | I am sure |
| 00:08.15 | TheRipper | uBdead, just test them! figure what you think they might do and try it |
| 00:08.25 | payne | HALPP!!!! |
| 00:08.30 | payne | Where do I make all the spells researched? D= |
| 00:08.40 | HyBReD | let me know when you figure out a "hacky" way to do it TheRipper, its the only thing holding me back from being done with another wave of tech |
| 00:08.42 | uBdead | whats a fun thing to do with events |
| 00:08.56 | payne | will anyone help me? D= |
| 00:08.58 | TheRipper | Of course, Hybred |
| 00:09.03 | TheRipper | Im searching as we speak |
| 00:09.04 | payne | --> Where do I make all the spells researched? <-- |
| 00:09.10 | TheRipper | and uBdead, Blow shit up |
| 00:09.11 | TheRipper | lol |
| 00:09.16 | payne | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.22 | uBdead | lol payne spamming is not going to plee in you favor |
| 00:09.26 | payne | lol |
| 00:09.35 | payne | but sc2mapster's community is such a harsh... |
| 00:09.41 | payne | they claim to be great, etc.. etc.. |
| 00:09.45 | payne | but their site sux |
| 00:09.47 | payne | their dldb sux |
| 00:09.49 | payne | their forum sux |
| 00:09.52 | uBdead | goodbye payne |
| 00:09.58 | payne | nearly anything from sc2m sux |
| 00:10.01 | payne | SEN > sc2m |
| 00:10.07 | Shenlok | aight |
| 00:10.09 | uBdead | have fun at SEN :) |
| 00:10.11 | Shenlok | you can leave now brah |
| 00:10.11 | payne | http://www.staredit.net/ |
| 00:10.18 | Motive | Then why are you asking us at SC2 Mapster if SEN is better? |
| 00:10.18 | payne | SEN's down right now ^^ |
| 00:10.22 | payne | :P |
| 00:10.35 | Motive | then they suck for being down ;P |
| 00:10.36 | uBdead | patience goes a long way |
| 00:10.48 | payne | haha |
| 00:10.56 | TheRipper | sc2 mapster is pretty good for me, payne |
| 00:10.57 | payne | msg in red are PMs, in here? |
| 00:10.58 | wacko | there also seems to be a limitation one global struct is allowed after that you get a syntax error :P |
| 00:10.59 | davidcramer | SEN is a good site but i wouldnt say sc2 mapster sucks |
| 00:11.01 | Motive | yes, payne. |
| 00:11.04 | TheRipper | You just need to try things on their own |
| 00:11.05 | payne | :o |
| 00:11.10 | TheRipper | Your own* |
| 00:11.11 | davidcramer | Theres no Excalibur on mapster :P |
| 00:11.21 | davidcramer | payne: why is the site down btw |
| 00:11.23 | payne | as long as they'll keep their actual Forum and DLDB, sc2m will suck to my eye. |
| 00:11.32 | payne | Seriously, can you guys find anything into that DLDB? :S |
| 00:11.33 | davidcramer | Ya I dont think its setup the best |
| 00:11.42 | payne | And the forum.. no way I can get an 'Enter' to display. |
| 00:11.43 | uBdead | SC2m forum is solid |
| 00:11.51 | davidcramer | define solid |
| 00:11.52 | davidcramer | :) |
| 00:11.52 | uBdead | use plain text mode |
| 00:11.54 | davidcramer | its a bit of a mess IMO |
| 00:11.56 | Scornic | If I were to have an infection that causes something upon the infected unit's death, would I use apply behavior effect or create persistent? |
| 00:11.59 | TheRipper | It could be set up better. But thats what this is for :3 |
| 00:12.01 | payne | uBead |
| 00:12.04 | payne | you must be joking |
| 00:12.08 | ckknight | payne: you be nice. If you want to mess with the theme, go to http://www.sc2mapster.com/themes/ |
| 00:12.11 | payne | I can't even do the smiley "^^" without fucking it up |
| 00:12.20 | uBdead | you are using wiki markup |
| 00:12.26 | uBdead | use plain text mark up |
| 00:12.27 | omeg | ok, seems to work, but i have no idea how to declare struct param through gui |
| 00:12.32 | omeg | no such option |
| 00:12.35 | ckknight | payne: yea, because ^^ means superscript. Use plain text if you want to type with plain text. |
| 00:12.48 | Motive | you're probably used to BBCode markup. |
| 00:12.49 | payne | But what if I want to write "^^" |
| 00:12.56 | Motive | switch to BBCode markup and write whatever you want :P |
| 00:12.58 | payne | Everything I try to do in the forum screw it up. -.- |
| 00:12.58 | uBdead | gosh you are thick lol |
| 00:13.13 | payne | anyways |
| 00:13.15 | payne | :p |
| 00:13.27 | payne | Imma find out the solution to my problem on my own |
| 00:13.29 | payne | :( |
| 00:13.31 | payne | must go eat |
| 00:13.32 | payne | cya! |
| 00:13.33 | uBdead | just remove the requirements for the spell |
| 00:13.37 | uBdead | good luck :) |
| 00:13.41 | payne | Habs >> Caps, btw! We'll get the Stanley Cup! =D |
| 00:13.47 | payne | bead |
| 00:13.50 | payne | where do I do so... |
| 00:14.09 | uBdead | at the ability |
| 00:14.14 | uBdead | (i think) |
| 00:14.45 | davidcramer | ooo |
| 00:14.46 | davidcramer | http://www.sc2mapster.com/themes/stormfx/ |
| 00:14.50 | davidcramer | makes site look 10x better :D |
| 00:15.08 | TheRipper | its not looking good, hybrid |
| 00:15.15 | TheRipper | you may need to make dummy exp units |
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| 00:15.25 | HyBReD | yep |
| 00:15.30 | HyBReD | thats what im worried about |
| 00:15.34 | uBdead | ye its pretty good david :) |
| 00:15.41 | TheRipper | theres an action where you can cause damage from a unit isnt there? |
| 00:15.41 | TheRipper | like |
| 00:15.44 | theDude | whats up fellow sc2 mappers :P |
| 00:15.48 | TheRipper | have hero cause 1000 damage to unit/area |
| 00:15.54 | TheRipper | I vaguley remember seeing that |
| 00:15.57 | davidcramer | i kind of want to work on my td, but i have too much to do :( |
| 00:15.57 | uBdead | not much Lebowski |
| 00:16.05 | TheRipper | if its true that may work exactly like kill, except records your hero as the killing unit |
| 00:16.20 | theDude | im currently working on a Zergling blood |
| 00:16.31 | TheRipper | anyways, ill help you more if you still need it in a bit |
| 00:16.38 | TheRipper | i gotta hang up and return a Tux i rented XD |
| 00:16.40 | TheRipper | be back later. |
| 00:16.40 | Dustin | Sixen |
| 00:16.45 | Dustin | Samn he's not here |
| 00:16.47 | Dustin | damn |
| 00:17.40 | omeg | wacko: so, do you know how to define a function that takes struct argument in the editor? doesn't seem possible |
| 00:17.48 | Scornic | Hmm, there aren't any units in this game that naturally use rebirth are there? |
| 00:17.51 | wacko | what are you putting ? |
| 00:18.17 | omeg | there is no such type as struct/record for argument to select |
| 00:18.23 | Kylegar | hmm |
| 00:18.25 | Kylegar | so |
| 00:18.27 | Kylegar | appaerntly |
| 00:18.31 | Kylegar | heroes only get experience |
| 00:18.31 | wacko | lol |
| 00:18.34 | Kylegar | if they make the kill |
| 00:18.38 | omeg | and my custom struct type is not there as well |
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| 00:19.27 | Marlox | Why the hell do they have different names for the properties in the Camera Properties and the Trigger Apply Camera Properties when they do the same thing (I assume) ? |
| 00:19.51 | wacko | i actually had to write the script myself omeg |
| 00:20.01 | omeg | wacko: yeah, manual script compiles |
| 00:20.28 | omeg | but dunno how to define whole function manually |
| 00:20.57 | Skizot | what does "create revealer do? |
| 00:20.58 | omeg | best i see is the "general - custom script" action, but it's only inerior of function body |
| 00:21.41 | `228zip | what the hell |
| 00:21.48 | `228zip | Why can my guy move |
| 00:21.51 | `228zip | on his own |
| 00:21.56 | `228zip | Even though he has no mover ? |
| 00:22.04 | `228zip | and "Movable" is toggled off ? |
| 00:22.17 | uBdead | Skizot it makes the fog of war disapear for a player |
| 00:22.59 | uBdead | HAHA, i made my zealots dance units to death :D |
| 00:23.28 | uBdead | 228zip try setting movement speed to 0 |
| 00:23.30 | Motive | @Marlox: because some aren't changeable |
| 00:23.34 | Motive | and the editor doesn't know the difference |
| 00:23.36 | uBdead | it removes the ability to move |
| 00:23.48 | Motive | so they make two enumerations, one for those that are changeable, and another for those that are retrievable. |
| 00:24.17 | theDude | has anyone figured out leader boards fully yet |
| 00:24.23 | uBdead | YES :D |
| 00:24.30 | uBdead | a hero called dom.dom |
| 00:24.38 | liq3 | wasn't it Pom.Pom? |
| 00:24.41 | Kylegar | nn |
| 00:24.42 | Kylegar | er |
| 00:24.43 | Kylegar | mm |
| 00:24.46 | uBdead | no idea lol |
| 00:24.47 | Kylegar | question |
| 00:24.50 | uBdead | something like that |
| 00:24.58 | Kylegar | anyone know how to increase the radius a hero has to be in to get a kill? |
| 00:25.13 | Kylegar | if the hero isn't the killer, he doesn't get exp |
| 00:25.28 | theDude | well, basically what im going for is a kill count board, and i pretty sure i got everything setup to keep track of kills |
| 00:25.33 | Jamash | as long as it's not pun pun |
| 00:25.35 | theDude | i just need to get this count on the board |
| 00:25.47 | uBdead | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24570036995&postId=245676759827&sid=5000#0 |
| 00:25.50 | uBdead | try that :) |
| 00:25.51 | theDude | thx |
| 00:25.54 | uBdead | worked for me! |
| 00:26.32 | theDude | brb' |
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| 00:27.22 | Labmonkey2 | hey |
| 00:28.41 | uBdead | if i add an event twice, will they both fire? |
| 00:28.47 | Coolflip | ok guys |
| 00:28.54 | Coolflip | animation/actor question |
| 00:29.07 | Coolflip | how would i go about changing the "heal beam" from a medic to "creep drop" |
| 00:29.14 | davidcramer | yes they should both fire unless you have an action preventing it |
| 00:29.31 | uBdead | ok ty |
| 00:30.58 | davidcramer | Why would Blizzard devs go to SC2Mapster to read the editor forum, when they have millions of emails and their own forum to read? |
| 00:31.17 | Kylegar | because they get paid to get feedback |
| 00:31.26 | Kylegar | and, sc2mapster is a good forum |
| 00:31.32 | uBdead | because blizz is actually run by sixen and Grum |
| 00:31.44 | Coolflip | especially since some people are dedicated to finding bugs and posting them on sc2webster |
| 00:31.48 | Coolflip | mapster* |
| 00:31.49 | Coolflip | lol |
| 00:31.50 | davidcramer | Kylegar: i highly doubt that |
| 00:32.07 | Motive | because Blizzard's own bug forums is mostly flooded with stuff about graphics cards not working properly w/ SC2. |
| 00:32.14 | Motive | or unit x is doing action y wrong. |
| 00:32.23 | Motive | If they want a discussion focused around the editor, they'll go where people on the editor go. |
| 00:32.25 | Coolflip | most emails are probably like "OMG THIS SHIT DONT WORK, FIX IT NAOOOOOO", but on sc2mapster, they are detailed with whats wrong, under what conditions |
| 00:32.28 | davidcramer | that swhy their mods will forward on anything worthwhile |
| 00:32.50 | davidcramer | Coolflip: that not true :P |
| 00:32.56 | davidcramer | I guarantee many people who are submitting bug reports are doing it properly |
| 00:32.57 | uBdead | long story short: bnet forums are full of retards, and blizzard wants real feedback |
| 00:33.12 | liq3 | hahahahaahha. |
| 00:33.16 | davidcramer | uBdead: yes but I can't see them saying "were going to read your forum if you make it" |
| 00:33.17 | davidcramer | this is Blizzard |
| 00:33.24 | liq3 | I now understand why blizzard has the "we won't support the editor in anyway" disclaimer. |
| 00:33.47 | `228zip | Got a problem with a timer; it's supposed to repeat but it doesn't |
| 00:33.49 | liq3 | They don't want this massive barrage of emails with the subject "EDITOR NOT WORK, FIX PLEASE". |
| 00:33.49 | uBdead | battlenet: I ADDED UNIT BUT COMPUTER COUGHT FIRE, HOW TO FIX |
| 00:33.55 | liq3 | lol. |
| 00:34.06 | davidcramer | liq3: yes but i would bet that they will never visit sc2mapsters forums :) |
| 00:34.12 | davidcramer | so i was wondering why the post said they will be |
| 00:34.24 | `228zip | TimerStart(gv_healthDialogTimer, 0.5, true, 0); |
| 00:34.26 | uBdead | monitor apache logs for blizz ip's |
| 00:34.28 | `228zip | anything wrong in that ? |
| 00:34.36 | DiNo29 | vjeux told me "Blizzard read our forums" |
| 00:34.45 | davidcramer | hes French tho |
| 00:34.46 | davidcramer | they're crazy |
| 00:34.51 | DiNo29 | dunno what his source was though :p |
| 00:34.56 | uBdead | JE SUIS UN RETARDE |
| 00:35.09 | davidcramer | lol |
| 00:35.11 | davidcramer | je suis un genie ;) |
| 00:35.15 | DiNo29 | well you won't convince me with that davidcramer |
| 00:35.17 | Motive | Blizzard CMs from WoW have registered/visited fan forums in the past |
| 00:35.18 | DiNo29 | I'm french too :o |
| 00:35.19 | `228zip | Pas vraiment, non. |
| 00:35.23 | Motive | they just don't announce their presence at all. |
| 00:35.25 | davidcramer | Tu es fou? |
| 00:35.29 | davidcramer | (i fail at french spelling) |
| 00:35.33 | DiNo29 | Non ! D: |
| 00:35.36 | davidcramer | te oof? |
| 00:35.39 | `228zip | Not that much david |
| 00:35.40 | Vaisnt | Anyone have any idea how i may be able to move while using the graviton beam ability? |
| 00:35.41 | DiNo29 | loool nice |
| 00:35.47 | uBdead | omelette du fromage c'est tres bien |
| 00:35.47 | DiNo29 | even french slant |
| 00:35.50 | davidcramer | We had a French intern when I was at Curse |
| 00:35.53 | davidcramer | he taught me many things |
| 00:35.54 | davidcramer | like |
| 00:35.58 | davidcramer | je vais tu tuis or something like that |
| 00:36.04 | `228zip | Hahaha |
| 00:36.11 | `228zip | You know what it means ? |
| 00:36.14 | davidcramer | i will kill you :D |
| 00:36.28 | davidcramer | i know how to say I will break your face or something along those lines, but I cant spell that one |
| 00:36.28 | `228zip | Well |
| 00:36.35 | DiNo29 | it's je vais te tuer :p |
| 00:36.37 | davidcramer | Mange merde! :D |
| 00:36.38 | davidcramer | ah |
| 00:36.40 | davidcramer | i was guessing >< |
| 00:36.43 | Labmonkey2 | I can speak latin? |
| 00:36.45 | Labmonkey2 | :D |
| 00:36.46 | `228zip | I still got my timer problem |
| 00:36.51 | davidcramer | Ich spreche Deutsch |
| 00:37.02 | uBdead | ich auch |
| 00:37.04 | `228zip | Nobody speaks latin labmonkey, but they do write it. |
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| 00:37.08 | Labmonkey2 | no |
| 00:37.08 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:37.14 | Labmonkey2 | its official language of the vatican |
| 00:37.20 | Labmonkey2 | TECHNICALLY its not dead |
| 00:37.25 | davidcramer | I cant spell 75% of what I can say in any language |
| 00:37.26 | `228zip | Is vatican even considered a nation ? |
| 00:37.31 | Labmonkey2 | yea |
| 00:37.32 | HyBReD | lol |
| 00:37.34 | davidcramer | `228zip: only by religious people ;) |
| 00:37.38 | uBdead | TECHNICALLY isnt really PRACTICAL at all |
| 00:37.43 | Labmonkey2 | yea |
| 00:37.45 | Labmonkey2 | but its an easy A course |
| 00:37.46 | ckknight | no, the vatican is not represented or acknowledged in the UN |
| 00:37.46 | Labmonkey2 | :D |
| 00:37.52 | davidcramer | ckknight: is that true? |
| 00:37.55 | Labmonkey2 | ??? |
| 00:37.55 | ckknight | so while it is a holy see, it is not an officially represented nation |
| 00:37.58 | Labmonkey2 | they have a seat? |
| 00:38.00 | ckknight | yea, davidcramer |
| 00:38.00 | uBdead | i can remember some words |
| 00:38.02 | davidcramer | haha |
| 00:38.03 | uBdead | like bellum |
| 00:38.05 | `228zip | They only speak english and japanese in Vatican |
| 00:38.06 | uBdead | (war) |
| 00:38.12 | `228zip | 'cause there are only tourists =p |
| 00:38.14 | DiNo29 | heh, it's the opposite for me, in english, I can't say correctly 75% of what I can spell. ^^ |
| 00:38.29 | uBdead | ZOUT ALORS |
| 00:38.30 | davidcramer | :D |
| 00:38.34 | `228zip | No |
| 00:38.34 | `228zip | Zut |
| 00:38.38 | davidcramer | I know lots of random vulger stuff |
| 00:38.39 | uBdead | what does that mean anyway lol |
| 00:38.40 | davidcramer | and some useful stuff |
| 00:38.43 | davidcramer | But I know more German than French |
| 00:38.52 | uBdead | je voudrais un pain :D? |
| 00:38.57 | DiNo29 | well, my interlocutor would probably get it, but words would be left badly butchered and wounded for life |
| 00:39.03 | davidcramer | je ne sais pa? |
| 00:39.05 | davidcramer | thats prob wrong too |
| 00:39.11 | `228zip | Means you'd like a punch in the face, depending on how you interpret it ubdead |
| 00:39.17 | uBdead | rofl really |
| 00:39.21 | `228zip | Well |
| 00:39.26 | `228zip | pain can either mean bread |
| 00:39.28 | DiNo29 | well, that's close, it's je ne sais pas |
| 00:39.31 | `228zip | or a punch in the face |
| 00:39.37 | uBdead | HAHA |
| 00:39.40 | DiNo29 | yeah lol xD |
| 00:39.40 | davidcramer | ah |
| 00:39.41 | uBdead | thats awesome |
| 00:39.44 | davidcramer | I used to know this stuff >< |
| 00:39.52 | davidcramer | Then I started learning German again, so I forgot half of my French spelling :D |
| 00:39.59 | `228zip | Well |
| 00:40.02 | DiNo29 | but for the punch in the face, it's slang |
| 00:40.06 | uBdead | Deutsch ist nicht sehr wichtig |
| 00:40.09 | `228zip | Can we get back to serious business ? |
| 00:40.14 | `228zip | I got a timer problem |
| 00:40.14 | uBdead | sure thing cap'n |
| 00:40.17 | davidcramer | I dont know what wichtig is :( |
| 00:40.23 | ckknight | Deutsch ist srs bsns! |
| 00:40.26 | davidcramer | haha |
| 00:40.31 | `228zip | It's supposed to repeat but it stops after the first tick =( |
| 00:40.31 | uBdead | ;D |
| 00:40.34 | DiNo29 | serious business ? oh no, going to bed, night. |
| 00:40.41 | ckknight | Ich weià ein wenig Deutsch |
| 00:40.53 | `228zip | I checked, I don't pause it =( |
| 00:40.54 | DiNo29 | that's a badly written B :p |
| 00:40.56 | `228zip | Any idea ? |
| 00:40.56 | davidcramer | haha |
| 00:41.03 | davidcramer | even German's dont use those anymore come on now ;) |
| 00:41.13 | uBdead | they dont lol? |
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| 00:41.17 | uBdead | just ss? |
| 00:41.18 | Razernok | Hey |
| 00:41.20 | `228zip | yea |
| 00:41.24 | davidcramer | uBdead: It's very common to drop them now |
| 00:41.25 | `228zip | They reformed it out |
| 00:41.25 | davidcramer | ya |
| 00:41.30 | uBdead | oh ok |
| 00:41.30 | `228zip | If that's even a word |
| 00:41.40 | davidcramer | It made sense to me :) |
| 00:41.47 | Razernok | anyone know how to convert from Text to String? |
| 00:41.49 | davidcramer | sort of ;) |
| 00:41.55 | `228zip | Razernock |
| 00:41.56 | davidcramer | Razernok: theres a difference O.o |
| 00:42.00 | `228zip | TextToString() ? |
| 00:42.00 | Motive | You can't iirc, Razernok. |
| 00:42.04 | Motive | There's no TextToString() |
| 00:42.12 | Motive | But on the bright side you can concactenate texts. |
| 00:42.29 | `228zip | davidcramer: Stupidly, yes. |
| 00:42.44 | uBdead | i have class in 4 hours, thing is, i havent slept yet |
| 00:42.53 | davidcramer | hrmm when does the new Fringe start? |
| 00:42.54 | `228zip | So no one can help me with my timer problem ? ='( |
| 00:43.04 | uBdead | i have no idea zip |
| 00:43.12 | `228zip | It's very strange |
| 00:43.22 | `228zip | TimerStart(gv_healthDialogTimer, 0.5, true, 0); |
| 00:43.27 | `228zip | That should repeat right ? |
| 00:43.29 | DiNo29 | zip: start the timer as a repeating timer ..... ;) |
| 00:43.31 | `228zip | every 0.5 sec ? |
| 00:43.40 | davidcramer | oh wait theres 4 eps i havent seen omg |
| 00:43.41 | `228zip | True means repeating, iirc |
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| 00:43.48 | Razernok | so no way to convert from Text to String |
| 00:43.57 | `228zip | native void TimerStart (timer t, fixed duration, bool periodic, int timeType); |
| 00:44.02 | `228zip | so it should repeat |
| 00:44.04 | Kylegar | Razernok ToString |
| 00:44.11 | Armentia | Is there a better way to make tile-like terrain? |
| 00:44.20 | Armentia | I want my sharp edges back! |
| 00:44.37 | `228zip | Armentia: Alpha blending kicks ass, get outta there! =p |
| 00:44.41 | Vaisnt | Anyone have any idea how i may be able to move while using the graviton beam ability? |
| 00:44.41 | Razernok | i guess not then or no one knows |
| 00:44.52 | Armentia | I don't want the blending though zip |
| 00:44.54 | Xapti | Armentia, you can choose your brush shape and sharpness |
| 00:45.05 | uBdead | hold CTRL armentia :) |
| 00:45.07 | Armentia | I've got sharp edges, but I don't want the cursor to move so smoothyl |
| 00:45.11 | Armentia | ctrl? *looks* |
| 00:45.12 | Xapti | plus if you hold down ctrl, it' automatically sharp |
| 00:45.27 | DiNo29 | zip : TimerStart(gv_healthDialogTimer, 0.5, true, 0); << wtf ? |
| 00:45.30 | uBdead | also press CTRL+G (snap to grid) |
| 00:45.39 | Armentia | Hmm.. That's better |
| 00:45.39 | uBdead | and press G to show the grid |
| 00:45.43 | DiNo29 | I have c_timeReal or c_timeGame instead of your 0 zip |
| 00:45.43 | Xapti | snap to grid? oh cooooool |
| 00:46.00 | Kylegar | Razernok there is a way |
| 00:46.05 | Kylegar | lemme find the function |
| 00:46.08 | `228zip | DiNo29: That's the type of time |
| 00:46.11 | Razernok | i don't get why there is a 'string to text' but no 'text to string' |
| 00:46.17 | `228zip | I guess I should put the constant instead |
| 00:46.20 | Armentia | I don't see the snap to grid |
| 00:46.23 | Kylegar | Razernok there is |
| 00:46.31 | uBdead | maybe its for units only |
| 00:46.34 | uBdead | let me check |
| 00:46.40 | Kylegar | I don't know if you are ignoring me or something, but there is |
| 00:46.43 | `228zip | c_timeGame = 0 |
| 00:46.54 | DiNo29 | :o |
| 00:46.59 | DiNo29 | and c_timeReal ? |
| 00:46.59 | Kylegar | the combine text returns a string |
| 00:47.00 | Coolflip | so does anyone know how i would change the beam from medivac's heal to zerg's creep drop? |
| 00:47.01 | DiNo29 | 1 ? |
| 00:47.04 | `228zip | Yea |
| 00:47.05 | Kylegar | combine text multiple does as well |
| 00:47.06 | Razernok | kylegar where then? |
| 00:47.11 | `228zip | c_timeAI is 2 |
| 00:47.22 | Marlox | Does Save and Restore camera settings work? |
| 00:47.34 | DiNo29 | well, then, yes |
| 00:47.38 | Marlox | Restore even after a save is taking it to initial game launch location |
| 00:47.55 | DiNo29 | your comand does start a repeating 0.5s timer in the healthDialogTimer variable |
| 00:48.02 | `228zip | I got another timer working on game time |
| 00:48.04 | DiNo29 | dunno why it fails to repeat |
| 00:48.04 | Kylegar | Razernok: CombineTextMultiple |
| 00:48.16 | Kylegar | it's an operator though |
| 00:48.23 | `228zip | so I don't really understand =/ |
| 00:48.26 | uBdead | oh man snap to grid doesnt work for terrain and textures |
| 00:48.28 | uBdead | that sucks |
| 00:48.31 | Armentia | Yeah |
| 00:48.35 | `228zip | Maybe it's the trigger ? |
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| 00:48.46 | Armentia | I wanted to make a level or two of a bound-style map to get used to the trigger editor |
| 00:48.52 | Xapti | ohhhhhhhhhhh ok |
| 00:48.53 | Razernok | combine text returns text not string |
| 00:48.54 | Armentia | And the terrain is just going to be a pain in the ass |
| 00:48.59 | Xapti | i'm not suprized snap to grid doesn't work for terrain lol |
| 00:49.02 | Aegis_Runestone | ah.... depression. |
| 00:49.03 | Xapti | but it would have been cool |
| 00:49.25 | Razernok | combine text multiple returns text also |
| 00:49.28 | uBdead | well how are we supposed to make straight lines |
| 00:49.39 | Xapti | hey, i had a <Camera to follow unit> trigger working fine, |
| 00:49.45 | Armentia | Yeah. I'm just trying to follow the edge of the grid |
| 00:49.46 | GoldfishInAPickl | what to work on... what to work on.. |
| 00:49.58 | Razernok | Text and String are two different variables |
| 00:50.01 | Xapti | but ever since i added another camera and switched to it, my camera follow trigger no longer works |
| 00:50.01 | DiNo29 | there should be a key that block your cursor in a line when pressed |
| 00:50.04 | Xapti | whats with that |
| 00:50.14 | Motive | @Razernok: why do you need to go text -> string? |
| 00:50.32 | Razernok | so i can convert the player's name to a string |
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| 00:50.42 | Motive | but why do you need it to be a string? |
| 00:50.52 | `228zip | well apparently it repeats now |
| 00:50.59 | `228zip | But the other actions don't work |
| 00:51.21 | `228zip | while (lv_i < 16) { lv_playerI = PlayerGroupSingle(lv_i); DialogControlSetPropertyAsText(gv_uiShieldText[lv_i], c_triggerControlPropertyText, lv_playerI, IntToText(UnitGetPropertyInt(gv_mainChar[lv_i], c_unitPropShields, true))); DialogControlSetPropertyAsText(gv_uiHealthText[lv_i], c_triggerControlPropertyText, lv_playerI, IntToText(UnitGetPropertyInt(gv_mainChar[lv_i], c_unitPropLife, true))); lv_i = lv_i +1; |
| 00:51.38 | Razernok | so i can use player's name in various messages |
| 00:51.41 | `228zip | That's gonna be hard to read on the chat |
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| 00:51.50 | Coolflip | anyone know the model for creep drop? |
| 00:51.54 | Motive | then you don't need it to be a string, Razer. |
| 00:51.54 | `228zip | so, the DialogControls don't refresh |
| 00:51.56 | Coolflip | its not in the zerg categiry |
| 00:52.00 | Motive | UIDisplayMessage takes a text variable :) |
| 00:52.03 | `228zip | Problem. |
| 00:52.24 | Motive | just do UIDisplayMessage(PlayerGroupAll(), c_messageAreaChat, playerNameVariableHere + StringToText("the rest of my message here!")); |
| 00:53.13 | EKals | How do you change supply count of a unit? |
| 00:53.23 | `228zip | check the data editoro ekals |
| 00:53.28 | `228zip | look for "Supply" |
| 00:53.37 | EKals | editoro..? |
| 00:53.56 | Razernok | also i need to use player's name in the bank keys and sections |
| 00:54.17 | uBdead | coolflip how about "Overlord Generate Creep" Model |
| 00:54.24 | `228zip | DiNo29, how do you say a "coquille" in english ? misstype ? |
| 00:54.57 | davidcramer | whats a coquille |
| 00:55.02 | Motive | banks are stored locally iirc so there's no need to involve the player's name. |
| 00:55.24 | DiNo29 | well, basically yeah, but it can refers to handwriting too, which doesnt sound like it's the case for "typo" |
| 00:56.01 | DiNo29 | also, a coquillage is a seashell :p |
| 00:56.02 | Razernok | banks will be useable online though |
| 00:56.12 | Razernok | blizzard has even said so |
| 00:56.26 | DiNo29 | yeah |
| 00:56.27 | Motive | yes they're useable online. |
| 00:56.33 | Vaisnt | Anyone have any idea how i may be able to move or attack while using the graviton beam ability? |
| 00:56.39 | `228zip | davidcramer: a typo is called a "coquille", because you don't want to do a typo on that word |
| 00:56.42 | uBdead | remove channeling? |
| 00:56.43 | davidcramer | ah |
| 00:56.46 | DiNo29 | but you still don't need to store the player name, you can load it again when the player replay |
| 00:56.46 | `228zip | like, removing the q |
| 00:56.48 | Motive | but why do you need the name of the player in the sections or keys? |
| 00:56.49 | davidcramer | haha |
| 00:56.50 | `228zip | Bad things can happen |
| 00:56.52 | Motive | exactly, like dino said. |
| 00:56.57 | davidcramer | how do you spell pu? |
| 00:56.59 | davidcramer | like |
| 00:57.01 | davidcramer | err wait |
| 00:57.05 | davidcramer | tu pu du cu? |
| 00:57.07 | davidcramer | how do i spell that |
| 00:57.09 | davidcramer | :D |
| 00:57.10 | Vaisnt | Removing channeling doesn't seem to help |
| 00:57.22 | DiNo29 | lool |
| 00:57.23 | `228zip | cul takes an l btw |
| 00:57.26 | DiNo29 | tu pues du cul ^^ |
| 00:57.26 | Ignorance|OutToL | Hey, where can I get a copy of Blizzard maps? |
| 00:57.26 | Razernok | and if say two people share a pc and both have their own b.net account then i need to be able to save them seperate of each other |
| 00:57.27 | uBdead | well i got 3 hours of sleep left before class so i need to go lol |
| 00:57.32 | `228zip | like in cul-de-sac |
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| 00:57.41 | uBdead | cya all |
| 00:57.43 | DiNo29 | cul-de-sac, awesome expression |
| 00:57.44 | uBdead | happy mapping |
| 00:57.57 | uBdead | whats a ghost on the stairs called again |
| 00:58.00 | uBdead | like a come-back |
| 00:58.07 | DiNo29 | it means dead-end, but litteraly it translaste as bag's ass |
| 00:58.17 | payne | lol |
| 00:58.19 | payne | I've read some french |
| 00:58.21 | Scornic | Hey, how do I import a .wav that I made myself? |
| 00:58.22 | payne | salut les noobs! ^^ |
| 00:58.26 | Statcomm | Salut |
| 00:58.28 | Motive | @razernok: Blizzard probably implemented the storage so that it is dependent on your account anyways |
| 00:58.29 | Statcomm | Vous parlez francais? |
| 00:58.30 | payne | ca boom? |
| 00:58.30 | DiNo29 | ghost on the stairs ? wut ? |
| 00:58.32 | payne | ouai |
| 00:58.35 | payne | jsuis de montréal ^^ |
| 00:58.36 | Statcomm | Bof, c'est dure |
| 00:58.37 | Motive | it's all in the cloud, remember? :) |
| 00:58.41 | uBdead | it's an expression |
| 00:58.47 | Statcomm | Pas mal, j'avais vecu en France un an |
| 00:58.52 | `228zip | What does it mean ubdead ? |
| 00:58.52 | payne | :o |
| 00:58.58 | payne | your french isn't bad ;) |
| 00:59.01 | uBdead | its what you call a comeback |
| 00:59.03 | `228zip | Guys, please limit the french, it's not very polite =O |
| 00:59.09 | Statcomm | Sorry |
| 00:59.16 | payne | wut! |
| 00:59.25 | Scornic | Anyone know? |
| 00:59.27 | AgentPaper | hm, so apparently, if you create a doodad with triggers, it doesn't have any pathing |
| 00:59.27 | payne | ur mom with ur english, fool. :D |
| 00:59.31 | payne | Where do I make all the spells researched? |
| 00:59.32 | `228zip | ubdead: Like you see some guy that's been dead for a few years ? |
| 00:59.34 | uBdead | "l'esirit de l'escalier" |
| 00:59.46 | payne | Stair spirit? |
| 00:59.49 | Statcomm | Fantome would be more appriopriate for ghost |
| 00:59.53 | Scornic | It seems the sounds are all built into the .data and .locale so I'm not sure how to import my own sounds. |
| 00:59.55 | `228zip | No |
| 00:59.57 | `228zip | Fantôme |
| 01:00.02 | `228zip | I know. |
| 01:00.03 | uBdead | Scornic |
| 01:00.04 | payne | Fantôme ** |
| 01:00.06 | Scornic | Yes? |
| 01:00.11 | `228zip | or |
| 01:00.12 | AgentPaper | is there any way around that? |
| 01:00.12 | uBdead | you can try to open you map in a MPQ editor |
| 01:00.13 | `228zip | Spectre |
| 01:00.14 | `228zip | or |
| 01:00.16 | `228zip | Ectoplasme |
| 01:00.18 | `228zip | or |
| 01:00.18 | uBdead | and add you wav to id |
| 01:00.19 | DiNo29 | Spirit |
| 01:00.20 | uBdead | it* |
| 01:00.20 | `228zip | Apparition |
| 01:00.25 | payne | ya.. |
| 01:00.29 | payne | hey, you got a good french |
| 01:00.30 | Statcomm | Ou Revenant |
| 01:00.33 | Scornic | What is an MPG editor? |
| 01:00.35 | payne | you're a native? |
| 01:00.40 | `228zip | I'm french |
| 01:00.41 | Scornic | MPQ* |
| 01:00.42 | `228zip | That helps |
| 01:00.43 | payne | same |
| 01:00.45 | payne | im from montréal ^^ |
| 01:00.47 | uBdead | google it please, i need to sleep ;D |
| 01:00.51 | DiNo29 | yeah I just googled and found some expression about "spirit of the stair", l'esprit de l'escalier |
| 01:00.51 | uBdead | cya all :) |
| 01:00.52 | `228zip | Revenant is more like a zombie |
| 01:00.56 | `228zip | for me at least |
| 01:01.00 | DiNo29 | never heard of it though, must be a canadian thing :p |
| 01:01.05 | payne | Guys, could anyone help me, for once: Where do I make all the spells researched? -.- |
| 01:01.08 | Statcomm | I always understood it as any type of undead |
| 01:01.15 | Scornic | I don't see why they had to make this so diffcult. In SC1 all you had to do was grab the file from any folder.. :/ |
| 01:01.20 | BlueGhostie | hey, is there a hot key to toggle a leaderboard minimize, or a simple trigger to do it? |
| 01:01.36 | `228zip | You know statcomm, not like a zombie that's being mindcontrolled |
| 01:01.43 | DiNo29 | Revenant literraly means "who come back" (from the dead) |
| 01:01.49 | `228zip | more like someone that's coming back (hence revenant) from the dead |
| 01:01.54 | `228zip | Dino beat me to it |
| 01:02.27 | Statcomm | Ah I see |
| 01:02.43 | DiNo29 | Scornic : I don't think you can import any asset in this version of the editor |
| 01:02.43 | `228zip | to me, it's more.. in flesh and blood |
| 01:02.52 | `228zip | But I don't know, gotta ask other people |
| 01:02.55 | Scornic | I've seen youtube videos with it |
| 01:02.58 | Scornic | Hold on let me grab it |
| 01:03.03 | `228zip | And given it's 3AM here, there's no one to ask to |
| 01:03.08 | Statcomm | At any rate, wanted to drop this message again: I'm looking for help for completing certain new sections of the Wiki if anyone can and is willing to. |
| 01:03.12 | DiNo29 | wall I saw a stream with custom sounds scornic |
| 01:03.21 | DiNo29 | but maybe the guy modified his game's sounds to play the map |
| 01:03.32 | DiNo29 | well* |
| 01:03.48 | HyBReD | Any ideas on how to preview all the available animations for a unit? |
| 01:03.56 | Scornic | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFbFCTziw28 |
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| 01:04.05 | warturtle | right click -> preview unit? |
| 01:04.07 | `228zip | there's the previewer but I forgot how to access it HyBRed |
| 01:04.09 | Scornic | He made it in a day, so there's gotta be something I'm missing |
| 01:04.18 | HyBReD | :(, remember! |
| 01:04.44 | HyBReD | nm |
| 01:04.44 | HyBReD | found it |
| 01:05.58 | Valaraukador | Any idea where the controls for a fully custom UI are? |
| 01:06.21 | OrangePulp | right now at least, it seems you have to do most of the custom UI stuff in xml |
| 01:06.25 | Motive | They said that a fully custom UI will be possible but there won't be controls for it, Vala. |
| 01:06.27 | OrangePulp | can't get at it through the GE |
| 01:06.38 | OrangePulp | I've seen some people do pretty well with boss bars and such, though |
| 01:06.42 | Valaraukador | I see, so I will have to script it in |
| 01:06.43 | OrangePulp | check out the top-down shooter on mapster |
| 01:06.58 | Valaraukador | boss bars are built in triggers |
| 01:07.08 | OrangePulp | right |
| 01:07.16 | OrangePulp | but you can use them for things like, HP/ammo trackers |
| 01:07.52 | Valaraukador | ah, I'm gunning to recreate the UI from a different game |
| 01:08.15 | Ignorance|OutToL | Where are victory conditions stored? |
| 01:08.35 | `228zip | Dialogs |
| 01:08.38 | `228zip | Are awesome |
| 01:08.43 | `228zip | Try them valaraukador |
| 01:09.14 | Valaraukador | I experimented with them a little bit, but they weren't working as I intended, but I plan to revisit them |
| 01:09.19 | FrozenFirebat | OMG, i'm so annoyed with myself... been trying all day to figure out how to get multiple weapons firing off independently, and failed, and I move onto another project and get it to work, but can't figure out how I did it. |
| 01:09.25 | `228zip | Valaraukador |
| 01:09.32 | `228zip | Can I help you with them ? |
| 01:09.32 | Marlox | Set Target UnitGroup For Attack Waves: Is this the target of the attack wave (prey) or what the attack wave itself? |
| 01:09.46 | `228zip | I used the galaxy directly though |
| 01:09.56 | `228zip | So I don't know how it works with the GUI |
| 01:10.08 | DiNo29 | omg, you used the galaxy |
| 01:10.12 | `228zip | (GUI tends to do things for you which you don't necessarily want) |
| 01:10.13 | DiNo29 | hope you didnt waste it :o |
| 01:10.24 | warturtle | Anyone mess with Actor_LaunchAttach ? |
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| 01:10.32 | Valaraukador | I'm going to stick with GUI until I get more antiquated with it then I'll move towards pure script |
| 01:10.32 | warturtle | or know how it works |
| 01:10.34 | `228zip | La galaxie est dans le bodrier d'Orion! |
| 01:10.58 | DiNo29 | :o |
| 01:11.02 | `228zip | Valaraukador: You never used a coding language before ? |
| 01:11.05 | Coolflip | i think my editor hates me |
| 01:11.08 | Guest11432 | anyone know how to make a trigger not repeat? so it only works once? |
| 01:11.10 | `228zip | (Men in Black reference) |
| 01:11.18 | Coolflip | every time i just make somthing new it crashes |
| 01:11.24 | `228zip | Guest: Destroy it after usage |
| 01:11.35 | `228zip | native void TriggerDestroy (trigger t); |
| 01:11.44 | HyBReD | Playing a unit animation backwards, any ideas? GO |
| 01:11.49 | Valaraukador | I have, I've used C, C++, JASS and it's derivative, vJASS. I just want to get used to the editor first |
| 01:12.16 | `228zip | Why getting used to things you won't use anyways ? |
| 01:12.26 | DiNo29 | not really HyBReD, but I have some idea for moonwalk |
| 01:12.27 | `228zip | Plus, Galaxy is just like C, except the editor limits you |
| 01:12.32 | Aegis_Runestone | Does anyone know how to make custom icons yet? |
| 01:12.35 | HyBReD | i dont want moonwalk |
| 01:12.38 | HyBReD | i want a reverse attack animation |
| 01:12.39 | HyBReD | : ( |
| 01:12.48 | DiNo29 | Rever attack animation |
| 01:12.50 | DiNo29 | UMAD ? O_O |
| 01:12.51 | Zoxc | Galaxy is nothing like C =P |
| 01:12.53 | OrangePulp | how does one go about writing custom script for galaxy? |
| 01:13.07 | `228zip | Zoxc alright, I know |
| 01:13.15 | Zoxc | the next guy who says Galaxy is like C, gets shot, twice. |
| 01:13.16 | `228zip | Zoxc it's just to get him into it! =p |
| 01:13.26 | `228zip | You have been warned! |
| 01:13.32 | theDude | GALAZY IS LIKE C |
| 01:13.44 | Zoxc | nice loophole |
| 01:13.53 | `228zip | shoots theDude. Twice. |
| 01:13.53 | Valaraukador | O |
| 01:13.58 | theDude | na, i feel its more like visual basic, or atleast it remindsm e of vb |
| 01:14.05 | Valaraukador | I'm lazy, lol. I'll get into scripting eventually. :P |
| 01:14.08 | DiNo29 | galaxy is like C, except someone shuffled the commands library all over, then lost half of the commands, and you have to code with your hands tied to your back |
| 01:14.09 | Motive | Visual Basic made me cry. |
| 01:14.11 | DiNo29 | so basically like C |
| 01:14.12 | Sixen | QQ |
| 01:14.14 | Motive | I mean, "Dim" |
| 01:14.15 | pile | galazy is like not a word |
| 01:14.20 | Motive | Wtf is "Dim"? |
| 01:14.24 | Motive | It just sounds stupid. |
| 01:14.24 | Sixen | lol |
| 01:14.25 | Motive | :P |
| 01:14.40 | Aegis_Runestone | Um.. anyone? |
| 01:14.51 | Sixen | What's up? |
| 01:15.16 | Guest11432 | icons? you mean buttons? |
| 01:15.30 | Ignorance|OutToL | How do you actually get somewhere you can code in Galaxy? :P |
| 01:15.31 | SevenSeven | WOOT |
| 01:15.36 | `228zip | Dim ? it's an company that do underwears right ? |
| 01:15.46 | `228zip | Ignorance: Custom script or.. Ctrl + F11 |
| 01:15.50 | SevenSeven | I finished the tower upgrade system :D |
| 01:15.59 | Guest11432 | wait. im still confused at how to set up a trigger to destroy itself |
| 01:16.00 | Valaraukador | also, the texture format is .dds, right? How the heck do you get the dds format? |
| 01:16.18 | SevenSeven | @Guest I think you can just disable the trigger when it's done |
| 01:16.20 | Motive | @Ignorance: notepad! |
| 01:16.26 | Motive | Best thing since sliced bread. |
| 01:16.27 | `228zip | Guest |
| 01:16.27 | Aegis_Runestone | Yes, I mean buttons or icons. |
| 01:16.34 | shmen | How do you add a custom Loading screen image? |
| 01:16.40 | `228zip | Just use this script |
| 01:16.42 | Ignorance | no galaxy for unit editing? |
| 01:16.44 | Aegis_Runestone | Like, I want to make Psionic-glowing spines. |
| 01:16.45 | Ignorance | I has a sad. |
| 01:16.46 | Sixen | Ignorance, "Use Custom Sciprt" |
| 01:16.46 | Ignorance | :( |
| 01:16.48 | DiNo29 | CtrlF11 looks good, but when I change something it doesnt get applied to the map :o |
| 01:16.50 | `228zip | TriggerDestroy(TriggerCurrent()); |
| 01:17.00 | liq3 | shmen: hire ninjas to hold a piece of paper in front of the player's screen while it loads. |
| 01:17.03 | `228zip | Destroy your current trigger |
| 01:17.10 | picklefish | I can't decide what kind of map I want to work on :/ |
| 01:17.10 | `228zip | It can't be used anymore after that though |
| 01:17.14 | Motive | I write too much raw Galaxy code to use Custom Script thingys in the GUI. It'd just look sloppy. Lol |
| 01:17.16 | Motive | :( |
| 01:17.24 | shmen | liq3: ok! |
| 01:17.25 | shmen | lol |
| 01:17.29 | Aegis_Runestone | hmmmm.... |
| 01:17.40 | `228zip | Motive Yeah but the editor still generates important things for you |
| 01:17.51 | Aegis_Runestone | I wonder what sounds like a "Psionic Spine" when fired and on impact...? |
| 01:17.52 | Motive | I just import my files separately and then edit the MapScript.galaxy to include my work |
| 01:17.54 | Mojache | is there any unit in game |
| 01:17.54 | `228zip | Motive Like the units, I think they're generated by the galaxy code |
| 01:17.57 | Mojache | with a stun effect? |
| 01:18.02 | Motive | Nope, they're not. |
| 01:18.08 | `228zip | Oh |
| 01:18.11 | DiNo29 | yes, there is |
| 01:18.15 | `228zip | What about initializers ? |
| 01:18.16 | DiNo29 | Thor |
| 01:18.19 | Motive | Also not. :) |
| 01:18.27 | `228zip | How do you do them ? |
| 01:18.31 | Motive | What I do is I take an empty MapScript.galaxy from a blank map |
| 01:18.33 | Ignorance | wait, the units are generated by galaxy code? |
| 01:18.40 | Motive | and add an include at the top like "include Cortex/Cortex.galaxy" |
| 01:18.41 | shmen | liq3: seriously, how do you add it? lol |
| 01:18.44 | DiNo29 | Thor ability : "inflict x damages over 5s and stun the target for that duration" |
| 01:18.46 | `228zip | Ignorance apparently they're not |
| 01:18.51 | Aegis_Runestone | What do you think, guys? What custom sound would work for "Psionic Needle Spines"? |
| 01:18.52 | Ignorance | :( |
| 01:18.54 | Motive | then I'll go and in the MapInit method I'll call libcrtx_InitLib(); |
| 01:18.54 | DiNo29 | channeling damaging stun |
| 01:18.57 | Motive | boom problem solved :) |
| 01:19.00 | Ignorance | Okay, so, how do I change victory conditions? |
| 01:19.06 | Ignorance | I want to play my map against an AI :O |
| 01:19.09 | `228zip | Oh I thought about that actually, but didn't know how to do it! |
| 01:19.13 | `228zip | You're awesome motive! |
| 01:19.16 | Mojache | thor has a stun? |
| 01:19.17 | Mojache | awesome |
| 01:19.21 | Motive | You can use the Import EDItor to overwrite MapScript.galaxy |
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| 01:19.26 | Motive | just rename it, instead of importing it with that name. |
| 01:19.34 | Motive | And don't touch the Script Editor or you'll overwrite it again. |
| 01:19.41 | Motive | Unless you want to compile check, which I do sometimes. |
| 01:20.00 | `228zip | Mmh |
| 01:20.10 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/trials-khali/. The Trials of Khali. deliverancelost (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 01:20.10 | `228zip | So if you don't touch the trigger editor |
| 01:20.14 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-custom-map-patcher/. SC2 Custom map patcher. coldragon78 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 01:20.15 | `228zip | the script isn't updated ? |
| 01:20.18 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/crucedecaminos/. (4) Cruce de caminos (melee map). matchet23 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 01:20.19 | Motive | Nope. :) |
| 01:20.23 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/colossus-survival-v0-85/. Colossus Survival. sera141 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 01:20.27 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/bifuumap/. bifuumap. illidans911 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 01:20.28 | `228zip | I gotta start doing that. |
| 01:20.33 | Aegis_Runestone | I guess no one has an idea. Hmmm... okay, how about this, is possible to hold a placeholder for sounds and impact/launch models that you want to use in a weapon? |
| 01:20.36 | Motive | http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3244/screenshot009re.jpg |
| 01:20.40 | Motive | Done with 100% Galaxy, no GUI. |
| 01:20.43 | Motive | Overwrote the map script file. |
| 01:20.55 | `228zip | GUI is way too long to use anyways |
| 01:20.58 | Motive | I agree. :) |
| 01:21.08 | Motive | It's cumbersome now that the Galaxy language has so much to offer. |
| 01:21.11 | Marlox | How do you initiate an attack-walk order to a group of evil player controlled zerglings as you can't set order of ability command to attack? |
| 01:21.31 | Aegis_Runestone | lol, "Ghost Marine" |
| 01:21.48 | Motive | Yeah. xD |
| 01:21.55 | `228zip | Isn't there a way to actually include files in the editor ? |
| 01:22.00 | Zoxc | GUI is more powerful than Galaxy though |
| 01:22.05 | Motive | GUI is built around Galaxy. Lol |
| 01:22.09 | Valaraukador | lol |
| 01:22.17 | Valaraukador | Zoxc, it is impossible for that to be true |
| 01:22.18 | Aegis_Runestone | How did you make him transparent? |
| 01:22.19 | Motive | @228zip: Just use a ton of includes. |
| 01:22.21 | `228zip | Zoxc, please explain. |
| 01:22.22 | Motive | Actor messages |
| 01:22.26 | Motive | my code's all open source, I can show you, sec. |
| 01:22.40 | `228zip | Motive: I mean, without overwriting the whole thing |
| 01:22.40 | Motive | http://svn2.assembla.com/svn/CortexDev/trunk/Commands/MiscCommands.galaxy |
| 01:22.45 | Motive | take a look at bool libcrtx_command_tint(bool testConds, bool runActions) { |
| 01:23.04 | Aegis_Runestone | Is it possible through the editor to give a model a glow around it? |
| 01:23.16 | Aegis_Runestone | and maybe some flashing eyes...? |
| 01:23.27 | `228zip | libNtve_gf_MainActorofUnit |
| 01:23.31 | `228zip | =( |
| 01:23.53 | Motive | why sadface? :P |
| 01:24.04 | `228zip | oh and why do we have to return a boolean in the triggers actions ? |
| 01:24.12 | Motive | I have no idea as to why it's a bool. Lol |
| 01:24.17 | Motive | I've never tried returning false. |
| 01:24.25 | `228zip | I was going to ask you that |
| 01:24.35 | `228zip | Problem right now is |
| 01:24.42 | `228zip | I'm doing my project with other people |
| 01:25.05 | `228zip | And they don't want to use galaxy all the time |
| 01:25.07 | `228zip | =( |
| 01:25.11 | Motive | Then don't make them. :P |
| 01:25.23 | Motive | Just write the majority of your code in an included file. |
| 01:25.28 | Valaraukador | go solo then |
| 01:25.30 | Motive | Then just have them write the GUI code and make a copy of the map. |
| 01:25.38 | Motive | Edit the MapScript.galaxy to include your work and call a method to initialize your stuff. |
| 01:25.45 | Motive | Overwrite it and you now have GUI and Galaxy working together. |
| 01:25.46 | Motive | :) |
| 01:25.49 | Valaraukador | I can't wait until someone makes a program like JASScraft for Galaxy script, easier |
| 01:25.59 | Sixen | Nice, Motive. |
| 01:26.03 | `228zip | What do you need to include a file ? does it have to be in the map ? |
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| 01:26.11 | Sixen | Motive, would you mind uploading that on Mapster? |
| 01:26.13 | Motive | I didn't figure it out. Someone else mentioned the MapScript.galaxy overwriting and I just plugged in the rest. Lol |
| 01:26.20 | Sixen | Would like some more examples of Galaxy Scripting. |
| 01:26.20 | Motive | Uploading what exactly? |
| 01:26.26 | Sixen | (6:22:41 PM) Motive: http://svn2.assembla.com/svn/CortexDev/trunk/Commands/MiscCommands.galaxy |
| 01:26.41 | Motive | I'm not sure it'd make much sense alone but sure. |
| 01:26.45 | Motive | Where do you want it? Lol |
| 01:26.47 | Sixen | Trust me, ;). |
| 01:26.51 | Sixen | Put it under Assets for now. |
| 01:26.54 | Motive | Ok |
| 01:26.59 | Sixen | Thanks, Motive, :). |
| 01:26.59 | `228zip | So, motive, how do the include stuff work ? |
| 01:27.10 | Motive | It's just like C includes. |
| 01:27.12 | `228zip | do you need the galaxy file imported in ? |
| 01:27.14 | Sixen | 228, it's just "include file" |
| 01:27.15 | Motive | include "MyFile.galaxy" |
| 01:27.26 | Motive | and the contents of that file are put where the include is |
| 01:27.47 | `228zip | No problem if I have the file on my desktop or something ? |
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| 01:29.03 | Marlox | Anyone know if it would be possible to map a bunch of regions to an array without creating the region through triggers? |
| 01:29.52 | theDude | ight guys i got a question about the leader board.... im reading this build of one on blizzard forumnz by pom pom, and i just dont under stand this one line |
| 01:29.55 | theDude | Leaderboard - Set Killboard item progress bar at column 2 and row ((Picked player) + 1) to range from 0.0 to (Real(Max Kills)) |
| 01:30.05 | AgentPaper | so, is there any way to create doodads that affect pathing? |
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| 01:30.19 | theDude | i dont understand how i get the math at the end of the line |
| 01:30.52 | `228zip | Motive ? still there ? I'd just like to know where the file I'm going to include can be |
| 01:31.58 | HyBReD | Anyone know what "Blend" means in terms of moving a unit instantly? |
| 01:31.58 | Motive | uh what do you mean? |
| 01:32.06 | theDude | i mean |
| 01:32.07 | Motive | like I put all of my files into a "Cortex" folder and then all the includes look something like |
| 01:32.12 | Motive | include "Cortex/File.galaxy" |
| 01:32.27 | `228zip | Well |
| 01:32.35 | AgentPaper | can you affect pathing at all with triggers, actually? |
| 01:32.49 | `228zip | I would like to know if that "Cortex" folder can be in C:/ for example |
| 01:33.05 | AgentPaper | Creating doodads doesn't, and you can't do it directly... |
| 01:33.09 | `228zip | and I just do "include "C:/Cortex/File.galaxy" |
| 01:33.10 | AgentPaper | guess you could make a building |
| 01:33.11 | Motive | The Cortex folder has to be imported, by the SC2 Import Manager in the editor |
| 01:33.17 | Motive | You can't include things outside of the map file's MPQ. |
| 01:33.24 | Motive | It'll explode. Horribly. |
| 01:33.25 | `228zip | That's what I wanted to know, thanks motive |
| 01:33.47 | `228zip | Would it increase the weight of the map significantly ? |
| 01:33.55 | Motive | It's just text, and it's compressed, so not really. |
| 01:33.57 | Motive | No more than GUI would. |
| 01:33.58 | `228zip | Oh no, this is not crappy vJass x) |
| 01:34.05 | `228zip | These are real include |
| 01:34.05 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/cortex-roleplaying-library/. Cortex Roleplaying library. MotiveMe (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 01:34.11 | theDude | Leaderboard - Set Killboard item progress bar at column 2 and row ((Picked player) + 1) to range from 0.0 to (Real(Max Kills)) does anyone know how i would setup this algorithim |
| 01:34.12 | Sixen | Thanks Motive. |
| 01:34.17 | Motive | Working on uploading an alpha release for you |
| 01:34.20 | Motive | 0.1.3 I think it is. |
| 01:34.30 | Motive | Just have to run an svn export :) |
| 01:34.37 | Sixen | :) |
| 01:34.58 | Marlox | I am trying to add a bunch of regions to a region array variable, the only way I can think of doing this is by making an invisible unit run through all the regions and have Set MapArray[X] = Triggering Region - Anyone have any other less fucked up ideas? |
| 01:35.19 | DaveKapp | anyone here have frozen throne installed? |
| 01:35.22 | DaveKapp | I have a quick and easy question |
| 01:35.34 | Motive | I'm pretty sure there's a way to grab a region by it's name in Galaxy. |
| 01:35.37 | Motive | Like there was a way to in WC3. |
| 01:35.44 | Marlox | Well I don't want to manually add 50 regions |
| 01:35.45 | theDude | nm i figured it out -.- i feel so stoned |
| 01:35.45 | Motive | Just do something in GUI and take a look at what it generates. |
| 01:35.51 | Motive | I dunno then. :P |
| 01:35.53 | `228zip | DaveKapp I do, what's the problem ? |
| 01:35.58 | DaveKapp | no problem |
| 01:36.08 | DaveKapp | Just curious, if you wanted to play people who only had RoC |
| 01:36.17 | DaveKapp | did you have to launch frozen throne in some special way |
| 01:36.21 | Marlox | Oh my, where are all the trigger logical experts at :O |
| 01:36.22 | DaveKapp | or did you have to launch RoC |
| 01:36.27 | `228zip | I don't even know |
| 01:36.36 | DaveKapp | forgets |
| 01:37.27 | `228zip | Marlox: you want to do it automatically I guess |
| 01:37.33 | Marlox | Yes, sir! |
| 01:37.38 | `228zip | I'm pretty sure the editor generates a var |
| 01:37.42 | Marlox | If I can save that one line of code god damnit! |
| 01:37.46 | Marlox | hmymm |
| 01:38.00 | HyBReD | Unit - Move Target instantly to (Target_Position offset by 5.0 height) (No Blend) |
| 01:38.05 | HyBReD | Can you not move units on the Z or something? |
| 01:38.09 | `228zip | Are these regions really that hard to generate by script ? |
| 01:38.20 | SevenSeven | quick guys |
| 01:38.26 | `228zip | HyBReD: There should be a way to change their height |
| 01:38.27 | SevenSeven | dominos, papa johns, or pizza hut? |
| 01:38.36 | `228zip | pizzas suck |
| 01:38.40 | SevenSeven | you suck |
| 01:38.43 | Marlox | Most likely not... I would still be in the effect that I would have to create each region at each point unless I made a point array |
| 01:38.46 | `228zip | ='( |
| 01:38.50 | SevenSeven | lol |
| 01:38.53 | Marlox | I am not sure how else to generate the regions unless I do positions of sorts |
| 01:39.15 | `228zip | SevenSeven |
| 01:39.15 | `228zip | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUll5SnavOw&playnext_from=TL&videos=2KHLZWy96bc |
| 01:39.19 | SevenSeven | Woot! |
| 01:39.25 | SevenSeven | SevenTD 0.3 is out! :P |
| 01:39.25 | SevenSeven | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/files/426/379/SevenTDv0.3.SC2Map |
| 01:39.33 | SevenSeven | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/seventd/files/6-seven-td-v0-3/ |
| 01:39.44 | SevenSeven | and haha |
| 01:39.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: do you have any more details on the mutliplayer map editor? |
| 01:39.48 | SevenSeven | I love remi gaillard |
| 01:39.51 | Marlox | ROFL! |
| 01:40.14 | `228zip | He's crazy |
| 01:40.37 | `228zip | He probably had a few problems with the police already |
| 01:40.47 | `228zip | Saw the mariokart video ? |
| 01:40.54 | Marlox | That would be great if there's a was a map-generated array of the regions... I assume it would have to be custom scripted in as it wouldn't be listed which requires the name of it though :( |
| 01:40.57 | Sixen | Sbo, it'll allow for multiple authors was all I was told. |
| 01:41.08 | Sixen | brb |
| 01:41.30 | Motive | Psh. Multiple authors = svn. :) |
| 01:41.31 | Motive | or git. |
| 01:41.51 | Marlox | I assume there's no way to add a variable at the end of a region name and have it get the value and add it to the region name string... |
| 01:42.00 | Marlox | for I have a number after every region |
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| 01:42.08 | Motive | You probably can, Marlox. |
| 01:42.14 | picklefish | Motive: svn because mapster has an svn |
| 01:42.26 | Motive | "region_prefix_here" + IntToString(i) |
| 01:42.26 | picklefish | also. the maps are XML based so MERGE = easy as hell woo woo |
| 01:42.34 | Motive | yup :) |
| 01:42.58 | Marlox | Now can I add that via ' Custom Script ' or do I have to figure out how to get down n dirty |
| 01:43.14 | Motive | You can do it by GUI, too |
| 01:43.18 | Motive | I just don't know GUI |
| 01:43.18 | Marlox | mkay |
| 01:43.21 | Marlox | I'll take a look |
| 01:43.23 | ckknight | anyone for 2v2s? ;-) |
| 01:43.26 | `228zip | GUI is too complicated |
| 01:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: hm, k. fair enough |
| 01:43.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: I have regressed, I am quite terrible |
| 01:43.56 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 01:44.05 | ckknight | c'mon, time to practice ;-) |
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| 01:44.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll see what I can do to make time later this week |
| 01:44.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I literally have a 4' pile of crap that needs sorted |
| 01:44.44 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:44.53 | ScytheBlade1 | (bad things happen when you wake up to 6" of water in the window wells and 2" of water IN THE CARPET) |
| 01:45.09 | ckknight | blah! |
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| 01:45.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it was bad |
| 01:45.36 | Kylegar | what's the program to extract the xml out of the maps? |
| 01:45.42 | Kylegar | some mpq extractor |
| 01:45.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Kylegar: mpqedit |
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| 01:45.52 | Kylegar | graci |
| 01:46.04 | Vailreth | cant you just save the map out as a folder ? |
| 01:46.19 | Motive | oh fuck, I missed 24 tonight. |
| 01:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | with an mpq editor, sure |
| 01:46.21 | Motive | good job guys. :P |
| 01:46.27 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ by Bifuu |
| 01:46.29 | Vailreth | no with the editor |
| 01:46.36 | Vailreth | ive accidently done it |
| 01:47.30 | Barter | really? |
| 01:47.48 | Vailreth | saving the Map as a folder ? yes |
| 01:47.54 | Barter | oh |
| 01:48.35 | Barter | save as type: Editor Component List (.SC2Components) |
| 01:48.41 | Barter | saves it as a folder |
| 01:48.45 | Vailreth | yes. |
| 01:48.49 | Barter | nice |
| 01:48.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That's actually quite neat |
| 01:49.08 | Motive | Thar you go, Sixen. Uploaded the complete library in zip format and a test map that uses it. :) |
| 01:49.15 | Kylegar | oh balls |
| 01:49.17 | Kylegar | are you serious? |
| 01:49.24 | Barter | can open it easily too |
| 01:49.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster payne (~18c93393@gateway/web/freenode/x-kgpphckjyxrfwyar) |
| 01:49.30 | payne | hai nubs! =D |
| 01:49.30 | `228zip | Repo needs a more evocative name |
| 01:49.31 | Barter | the open document sees it as 1 file |
| 01:49.31 | Kylegar | asdf |
| 01:49.32 | Kylegar | wow |
| 01:49.33 | Kylegar | that's great |
| 01:49.35 | `228zip | like mapsterbot or something |
| 01:49.39 | payne | Hey |
| 01:49.48 | Shenlok | Is Barter the Barter from hon mods |
| 01:49.52 | payne | Is there a kind of "Defense Matrix" in SC2? And a "Dark Swarm" ? |
| 01:50.00 | Barter | Shenlok: yes :P |
| 01:50.05 | Kylegar | nice |
| 01:50.07 | payne | please answer my question |
| 01:50.09 | Shenlok | trying your hand at SC2 eh? :) |
| 01:50.17 | DaveKapp | not by default, no |
| 01:50.19 | Vailreth | i dont think those abilities exist but i think they can be made |
| 01:50.20 | `228zip | payne: There is no Defense matrix that I know of |
| 01:50.21 | Barter | yeah :P |
| 01:50.32 | `228zip | payne: But they shouldn't be hard to make |
| 01:50.36 | Shenlok | Cool, good luck with it. Don't forget about HoN though! |
| 01:50.36 | payne | 228, what about the dark swarm? |
| 01:50.44 | payne | I'm trying to create an Impossible Scenario map |
| 01:50.47 | Aegis_Runestone | 07:49pm] <payne> Is there a kind of "Defense Matrix" in SC2? And a "Dark Swarm" ? |
| 01:50.51 | Aegis_Runestone | Funny you mention that |
| 01:50.51 | Barter | =X |
| 01:50.54 | Kylegar | ahahaha |
| 01:50.54 | payne | but I can't see any good way of making players use tactic over Photo Canons |
| 01:50.56 | Kylegar | that's awesome |
| 01:50.57 | Aegis_Runestone | I want to make those spells. |
| 01:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice, and the editor's open dialog can open the expanded files just great |
| 01:51.00 | Kylegar | saving it as components |
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| 01:51.03 | Kylegar | best feature ever |
| 01:51.13 | Barter | indeed |
| 01:51.21 | payne | 228zip, what about Dark Swarm? :o |
| 01:51.26 | Vailreth | why is that such a good feature? |
| 01:51.37 | Kylegar | Vailreth you can edit the xml directly |
| 01:51.45 | payne | Aegis, interesting, but Impossible Scenario maps must not be customized too much. The point is to know how to micro Melee units ;o |
| 01:51.47 | Kylegar | and not deal with some of the editors...eccentricies |
| 01:51.56 | Vailreth | ah. |
| 01:52.03 | Barter | you could open it with mpq but this is much faster |
| 01:52.06 | Aegis_Runestone | Actually, I wanted them as spells for my Hero |
| 01:52.14 | Kylegar | you could also make a program to make leveling soooooooo much easiers |
| 01:52.17 | Aegis_Runestone | Right now, all he has is Psi Storm |
| 01:52.21 | Vailreth | ill stick to the editor ....xml is not me friendly |
| 01:52.23 | payne | But there isn't anything preventing a unit from getting hit by ranged attacks? |
| 01:52.25 | Kylegar | ie: generate linear levels up to 100 |
| 01:52.36 | Kylegar | with attirbute gain and shit like that |
| 01:52.40 | Kylegar | to the C# mobiel |
| 01:52.45 | Kylegar | mobile |
| 01:52.53 | payne | All I see is that spell from Sentries, other than Hallu and ForceField |
| 01:53.22 | Barter | yeah, such a hassle to make the leveling behaviour |
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| 01:54.08 | Shixax | hey |
| 01:54.28 | Bifuu | Damn Blizzard fucking up all my map ideas =/ |
| 01:54.33 | Shixax | I wanna start making maps but the editor is so confusing, where should I begin? I am trying to famirialize myself atm with the tool |
| 01:54.37 | picklefish | hey, can you raise and lower cliffs while playing the game? |
| 01:54.40 | picklefish | or are maps fixed? |
| 01:54.45 | Motive | I think maps are fixed. :( |
| 01:54.48 | warturtle | shixax make simple stuff |
| 01:54.54 | picklefish | Shixax: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/428-misc-beginner-video-tutorial/#p8 |
| 01:54.55 | Bifuu | Cant do my main one because of a lack of doodad's/Critters, my 2ndary map i canyt do unless i get proper mouse support =/ |
| 01:54.56 | futah | you can deform the terrain but not adjust cliffs |
| 01:55.00 | Motive | But in WC3 they had natives to change the terrain a bit. I'm hoping they bring some back. |
| 01:55.10 | picklefish | ahh thanks futah |
| 01:55.24 | `228zip | Bifuu You mean like having the mouse position all the time ? that'd be awesome =/ |
| 01:55.25 | SevenSeven | fixed |
| 01:55.39 | SevenSeven | Anyone try the new version of my TD yet? :D |
| 01:55.45 | picklefish | link? |
| 01:55.52 | Bifuu | `228zip: yea pretty much |
| 01:55.53 | payne | why does everyone made TD? it sux. :( |
| 01:56.14 | futah | good TD are fun but will take a while to make |
| 01:56.17 | peterpants | how do i get the milkyway precompiler to work |
| 01:56.17 | Bifuu | payne: Blizzard RTS's strive on Dota and TD,s duh =P |
| 01:56.24 | peterpants | i've never seen a .hs extension before |
| 01:56.25 | payne | :P |
| 01:56.34 | payne | Hey |
| 01:56.41 | `228zip | Bifuu: I know, the cam for my game is only updated via the middle click |
| 01:56.44 | `228zip | it sucks =( |
| 01:56.45 | payne | anyone has a good knowledge of the Melee Abilities? |
| 01:56.50 | Marlox | I can't find a way to convert anything into a region name =( |
| 01:56.51 | payne | I'd need a bit of brainstorm |
| 01:56.54 | payne | regarding micro. |
| 01:57.03 | Aegis_Runestone | What do you mean... "Melee abilities"? |
| 01:57.14 | Aegis_Runestone | You mean like spells? |
| 01:57.18 | SevenSeven | @futah: ? o_O |
| 01:57.18 | `228zip | Abilities in the basic game I guess |
| 01:57.25 | payne | The spells used by the units in normal games (non custom) |
| 01:57.45 | Kylegar | sigh |
| 01:57.57 | Kylegar | ms, why did you have to realease vs2010...I need to go download it now |
| 01:58.00 | Aegis_Runestone | Well, I know I made a version of Psi Storm for my hero that doesn't require research. But I can't figure out how to change the damage amounts. |
| 01:58.10 | payne | :( |
| 01:58.13 | payne | I must go poop ;o |
| 01:58.22 | Aegis_Runestone | Thank you for that information. |
| 01:58.22 | peterpants | precompiler for galaxy code anyone know of? |
| 01:58.28 | Aegis_Runestone | [/sacrasm] |
| 01:58.33 | davidcramer | peterpants: theres two |
| 01:58.38 | davidcramer | one is andromeda by GeX |
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| 01:58.40 | davidcramer | (sc2mod.net) |
| 01:58.44 | davidcramer | err .com |
| 01:59.00 | peterpants | kk |
| 01:59.09 | peterpants | i'll try that one |
| 01:59.26 | Barter | Aegis_Runestone: damage should be on the effect |
| 02:00.49 | Aegis_Runestone | I see it. |
| 02:01.37 | Kylegar | hey, Bifuu |
| 02:01.38 | Aegis_Runestone | but.... that's strange... 10 for damage, and 10 for damage2? |
| 02:01.38 | Aegis_Runestone | But the spell does 80 |
| 02:01.38 | peterpants | sc2mod.com is SO slow |
| 02:01.38 | Kylegar | did you ever notice that heroes don't get experience if they aren't the killing unit |
| 02:01.38 | Aegis_Runestone | That because units don't have set XP, I believe. |
| 02:01.43 | Kylegar | they do |
| 02:01.51 | davidcramer | loads fast for me |
| 02:01.53 | Aegis_Runestone | Are you sure? |
| 02:01.54 | Kylegar | heroes dont get experience unless they make the kill |
| 02:01.55 | Kylegar | yes |
| 02:01.57 | Kylegar | positive |
| 02:02.01 | Aegis_Runestone | hmmmm |
| 02:02.16 | `228zip | Motive, thanks a lot, I finally don't have to deal with those gv and lv and not being able to do my own var declarations anymore |
| 02:02.19 | `228zip | Freedom! |
| 02:02.20 | Marlox | Looking for any more advice on creating an Array of Regions automatically... http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401696550&sid=5000 |
| 02:02.38 | Barter | they gotta have a share exp behavior to share exp |
| 02:02.44 | Motive | Haha, freedom! :D |
| 02:02.45 | Barter | but it kinda sucks |
| 02:02.56 | Motive | Now if only they had /* */ style comments. :( |
| 02:03.00 | Motive | I wanna know who forgot those. |
| 02:03.01 | Kylegar | Barter I thought so |
| 02:03.03 | Barter | you cant distribute the exp equally to everyone around the kill with it |
| 02:03.03 | Motive | Lazy programmers. :( |
| 02:03.14 | Kylegar | I played with that |
| 02:03.22 | `228zip | Motive: Gotta find a way to check my syntax and all too |
| 02:03.23 | Kylegar | it's gonna be a bitch to add it |
| 02:03.36 | Kylegar | needs a simple editor |
| 02:03.46 | Kylegar | for making items |
| 02:03.56 | `228zip | Motive: has lapin's syntax updater been updated ? |
| 02:04.02 | `228zip | syntax checker* |
| 02:04.04 | Kylegar | now that I can get to the xml easy, totally going to make one |
| 02:04.12 | Motive | No clue. I'll use a syntax editor once it doesn't screw with my source files. |
| 02:04.13 | Kylegar | item creator and hero editor |
| 02:04.17 | Aegis_Runestone | Hmm... I'd need to make copies of the Psi Storm's damages, but... it's a little late for that. I don't know how to link the originals, and copying before made it so the spell effects didn't even appear. |
| 02:04.20 | Kylegar | for quick item creation and heroes |
| 02:04.26 | Kylegar | or atleast hero types |
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| 02:06.47 | TrouT | hellooo |
| 02:06.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Coolflip (~coolflips@c-71-56-255-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 02:07.05 | Cube | hellooo |
| 02:07.54 | HyBReD | Why cant I delete a requirement from a spell? |
| 02:08.00 | Xapti | hey, i had a <Camera to follow unit> trigger working fine, but ever since i added another camera and switched to it, my camera follow trigger no longer works |
| 02:08.17 | Xapti | does it make any sense why that would happen |
| 02:08.18 | HyBReD | nervermind |
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| 02:08.38 | shmen | New version: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lost_zergling/ =) |
| 02:08.47 | Xapti | camera follow doesn't have any specific camera to set to, just uses the current in-use camera i would assume |
| 02:08.53 | JamesObscura | Has anyone done building morphs yet? |
| 02:09.05 | JamesObscura | I've been working on it the last few days and I can't get the model to change. |
| 02:09.59 | Bifuu | yay 982 views, i feel almost e-famous |
| 02:10.00 | Xapti | I think david was doign somethign with morphs |
| 02:12.09 | Aegis_Runestone | yawns |
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| 02:12.44 | TrouT | is terrain static in the GE? |
| 02:12.45 | Xapti | someone know anything about my camera problem? |
| 02:12.48 | TrouT | like can you alter terrain during a game |
| 02:13.09 | futah | you can use terrain deform actor |
| 02:13.28 | picklefish | is it possible to zoom in and out of custom maps? |
| 02:13.38 | Motive | futah: do you have an example of a terrain deform actor by chance? |
| 02:14.02 | JamesObscura | Xapti, davidcramer? |
| 02:14.20 | warturtle | omg that was too much work |
| 02:14.23 | futah | there already is one in the data |
| 02:14.27 | Xapti | yeah i think so |
| 02:14.31 | Marlox | I would love to see the Terran Deformer Actor in action besides destroying foilage, I gave up on it =/ |
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| 02:14.37 | warturtle | finally figured out how to get attach points working however I want |
| 02:14.43 | warturtle | zzz |
| 02:14.43 | Bemoliph- | Regarding Terrain Deform Actors, do they actually change pathing and such? |
| 02:14.57 | JamesObscura | davidcramer, ping |
| 02:15.03 | futah | no unfortunately |
| 02:15.06 | davidcramer | ya? |
| 02:15.13 | Bemoliph- | Aww |
| 02:15.18 | Bemoliph- | Thanks |
| 02:15.20 | davidcramer | morphs failed |
| 02:15.20 | JamesObscura | Did you do building morphing? |
| 02:15.23 | JamesObscura | Darn |
| 02:15.23 | davidcramer | i couldnt find a way |
| 02:15.25 | JamesObscura | Same problem? |
| 02:15.27 | warturtle | now my marauder fires his special missiles from his arms :) |
| 02:15.28 | davidcramer | i completely duplicated what they were doing |
| 02:15.30 | davidcramer | ya, model wouldnt update |
| 02:15.34 | JamesObscura | Sigh... |
| 02:15.40 | JamesObscura | I'll keep working on it then, thanks. |
| 02:15.41 | davidcramer | i tried messing w/ delays/etc |
| 02:15.43 | davidcramer | but nothing |
| 02:15.46 | davidcramer | i think its a bug |
| 02:15.58 | `228zip | about bugs |
| 02:16.03 | `228zip | I actually had one |
| 02:16.21 | `228zip | One of my units without a mover fleed away from a zergling |
| 02:16.26 | `228zip | without me doing anything |
| 02:16.40 | warturtle | btw if anyone is looking for something to work on, im working on a map and wouldn't mind help :P |
| 02:16.42 | davidcramer | theres quite a few annoyances w/ the editor |
| 02:16.48 | davidcramer | i never got Timer - Timer Expires working |
| 02:17.10 | `228zip | davidcramer: First of them being the trigger editor itself, I just got rid of it and I feel much better |
| 02:17.15 | davidcramer | haha |
| 02:17.17 | davidcramer | i dont know Galaxy ;) |
| 02:17.23 | davidcramer | im pretty good w/ the editor though, as I did wc3 stuff |
| 02:17.28 | davidcramer | just requires a bit of navigation |
| 02:17.29 | `228zip | Timer - Timer expires works fine for me |
| 02:17.34 | davidcramer | `228zip: i couldnt get it to work |
| 02:17.45 | `228zip | Probably comes from your timer |
| 02:17.50 | davidcramer | http://sc2.nibbits.com/maps/project/74616/ntd-beta |
| 02:17.54 | davidcramer | you could take a look if you want |
| 02:18.02 | `228zip | what doesn't work ? |
| 02:18.02 | davidcramer | "Start Wave" trigger thats disabled, I couldnt see anything I was doing wrong |
| 02:18.06 | davidcramer | it never activates |
| 02:18.15 | davidcramer | i even had a debug trigger to test it, and that never hit either |
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| 02:18.29 | Picklefish1 | christ |
| 02:18.34 | `228zip | not using mapster ? |
| 02:18.35 | Picklefish1 | data editor just bluescreened my screen |
| 02:18.40 | Picklefish1 | er my computer |
| 02:18.48 | `228zip | BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH |
| 02:18.51 | Cube | BSOD |
| 02:19.01 | Picklefish1 | yeah. on windows 7 no less |
| 02:19.08 | Terin | Does anyone know how to remove the tech requirements from something? Like the requirement for a barracks from a bunker? |
| 02:19.08 | Cube | haha |
| 02:19.34 | davidcramer | `228zip: I built Nibbits, and its map hosting (no offense to anyone) is far superior to mapsters :p |
| 02:19.45 | `228zip | I don't really know =p |
| 02:20.04 | Razernok | wow, i found a bug with 'Last Created Unit' its not returning the unit |
| 02:20.09 | Technetium | << freelancer |
| 02:20.14 | Technetium | =P |
| 02:20.24 | Razernok | i tried to set a unit variable to the last created unit and it won't |
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| 02:20.27 | Motive | @Razernok: Last Created Unit is now a local variable. make sure you're in the right scope. |
| 02:20.30 | Technetium | I go where I'm needed and gain the most benefits |
| 02:20.35 | `228zip | I like mapster's first page with the articles and all |
| 02:20.42 | *** part/#sc2mapster Picklefish1 (~Shane@cpe-67-9-132-96.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 02:20.43 | pile | yeah but on mapster it doesnt say im level 1 |
| 02:20.49 | davidcramer | `228zip: ya our focus is really just maps |
| 02:20.50 | Terin | Urgh. |
| 02:20.53 | Razernok | huh? |
| 02:21.00 | davidcramer | mapsters more of a resource for map making |
| 02:21.04 | davidcramer | we're all about promoting/finding those maps |
| 02:21.04 | Razernok | what do you mean? |
| 02:21.12 | `228zip | you could promote those maps on a first page |
| 02:21.15 | Terin | Cmon, that Sunken D map made it so that a building could be built without tech requirements. No one knows how? |
| 02:21.24 | davidcramer | `228zip: go to the home page :P |
| 02:21.28 | `228zip | Say "Hey that map is really awesome and we got a mario kart map coming!" |
| 02:21.38 | davidcramer | we do all that automatically tho |
| 02:21.44 | Technetium | anyone remember Padorath's Return |
| 02:21.50 | Technetium | maybe you, david |
| 02:21.53 | `228zip | Well, popular map and new maps |
| 02:21.54 | davidcramer | dont have a bunch of paid staff like Curse to do it, Nibbits is completely a side project |
| 02:21.57 | `228zip | that's all there is =( |
| 02:21.59 | davidcramer | Technetium: nope I dont, what was it? |
| 02:22.04 | davidcramer | `228zip: what else is there? :P |
| 02:22.07 | Technetium | SC1 rpg-ish map |
| 02:22.16 | davidcramer | ah i never got into the sc1 map scene |
| 02:22.18 | Technetium | took like 5 hours to complete if you won |
| 02:22.19 | davidcramer | it was before my time |
| 02:22.20 | davidcramer | wow |
| 02:22.26 | davidcramer | longest ive played a custom map was like 3 hours |
| 02:22.28 | Technetium | and that was a big IF |
| 02:22.29 | Xapti | Terin |
| 02:22.43 | Technetium | I've spent 3 hours and lost many of times |
| 02:22.44 | Xapti | it's pretty easy, |
| 02:22.56 | davidcramer | :/ |
| 02:23.12 | davidcramer | btw for you non-trigger guys, you should look at my td for a simple example of better ways to use triggers |
| 02:23.17 | FRoZeN | anyone have any idea of how to make fx. a warpgate, have individual cooldowns (on the units) and perhaps how to increase the max number of units so that the cooldown can build up to maybe 10.. kinda like shops worked in wc3 |
| 02:23.22 | davidcramer | i saw someone who wrote a TD and had this big mess of triggers that were all explicit |
| 02:23.25 | davidcramer | rather than logical :p |
| 02:23.30 | Technetium | if you don't know triggers, look up a wc3 trigger tutorial |
| 02:23.49 | davidcramer | Technetium: the one i saw was like "if player one is playing do something for him" like x5 for every event for every possible player :P |
| 02:24.01 | Technetium | already very well documented and the structure is almost the smae |
| 02:24.02 | TrouT | durp. GE crash again. :( |
| 02:24.03 | Cube | excuse me, (i have no experience at all with mapmaking), but are triggers decision statements? |
| 02:24.07 | Cube | (if/else) |
| 02:24.10 | Technetium | just some new variables and functions |
| 02:24.31 | `228zip | You have if/then/else separately |
| 02:24.45 | Cube | so yes? |
| 02:24.56 | dorkass | triggers are just event functions |
| 02:25.00 | pile | no its includes if else |
| 02:25.08 | Cube | ok |
| 02:25.16 | Cube | thanks dorkass |
| 02:25.17 | Cube | :P |
| 02:25.18 | dorkass | similar to javascript events |
| 02:25.22 | dorkass | onclick do this |
| 02:25.24 | `228zip | david, when is WaveCountDown triggered ? |
| 02:25.26 | Cube | yeah |
| 02:25.27 | Cube | alright |
| 02:25.41 | davidcramer | `228zip: its activated manually i think |
| 02:25.55 | davidcramer | but "Start Wave" Is what was buggy, so I just wrote an ugly "Start Wave 2" :p |
| 02:26.16 | `228zip | Ugly indeed =p |
| 02:26.23 | davidcramer | ya i just wanted to hack something together |
| 02:26.25 | TrouT | is there a way to load the official melee maps on the editor? |
| 02:26.27 | davidcramer | still nicer than half the maps ive seen ;) |
| 02:26.33 | davidcramer | but im gonna redo it so waves can be generated better |
| 02:26.59 | Vailreth | damn i just did all of this cool modding and i did it in the Wrong file.. |
| 02:27.04 | `228zip | davidcramer so it's activated in the Init trigger |
| 02:27.07 | Motive | Haha. Done that. :( |
| 02:27.12 | Motive | Copy and paste ftw. |
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| 02:27.34 | Volsky | Sixen |
| 02:27.43 | Volsky | So i herd u lieked my map |
| 02:28.01 | `228zip | I guess you tried with the trigger set on "ON", david ? |
| 02:28.33 | davidcramer | ya I did :P |
| 02:28.35 | Volsky | Anyone PLAY WITH THE BOSS BAR YET? |
| 02:28.40 | Volsky | sorry caps |
| 02:28.58 | `228zip | Volsky; I did, and then I realized it sucked and did it in galaxy =p |
| 02:29.20 | Volsky | Any way to get it to work without making a million triggers? |
| 02:29.27 | wacko | lol |
| 02:29.27 | FRoZeN | touches 228zip |
| 02:29.39 | FRoZeN | :P |
| 02:29.40 | JamesObscura | davidcramer, I got it |
| 02:29.40 | `228zip | slaps FRoZeN. |
| 02:29.54 | JamesObscura | Give me like 5 mins to get it cleaner and I'll send you the map. |
| 02:30.06 | Volsky | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.09 | davidcramer | wtf |
| 02:30.13 | davidcramer | howd you fix it? :P |
| 02:30.42 | `228zip | Volsky: Use a million trigger, at least you're sure of what you're doing |
| 02:30.51 | JamesObscura | davidcramer, You have to edit the actro |
| 02:30.55 | JamesObscura | *actor |
| 02:31.02 | lolwut_ | does anyone know how to make attribute tooltips show up? |
| 02:31.05 | BlueGhostie | man, is anyone elses map really big? |
| 02:31.06 | davidcramer | ya i changed that too but there were no actors set for the values they were using :/ |
| 02:31.08 | BlueGhostie | like file sie |
| 02:31.08 | lolwut_ | and the icon for that matter |
| 02:31.17 | Volsky | Yeah basically it is If X unit has exactly or less then x hp, set boss bar to x |
| 02:31.22 | Volsky | and this unit has 7500 health |
| 02:31.26 | Motive | Does anyone know if there's a way to get the Constructing Building when responding to the event Unit Training Progress/EventUnitTrainProgress? |
| 02:31.30 | Volsky | witch eaquals 7500 triggers |
| 02:31.44 | `228zip | Volsky: Use the unit is damaged event |
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| 02:31.53 | JamesObscura | davidcramer, I replaced the SpineCrawler actor with the Greater Spore actor. It currently transforms into a weird morph between a greater spire and a spine crawler |
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| 02:32.02 | `228zip | And then you can set the value of that to the current life of the boss |
| 02:32.06 | JamesObscura | Trying to get rid of all the references to greater spire and clean it up. |
| 02:32.07 | davidcramer | oh weird it literally "morphs" (merges)? |
| 02:32.13 | Volsky | Yeah but where do i place the values? |
| 02:32.13 | JamesObscura | Yeah |
| 02:32.19 | Volsky | conditions? |
| 02:32.23 | davidcramer | thats sweet so i could merge models together? :P |
| 02:32.23 | JamesObscura | You can see the spine crawler under it |
| 02:32.25 | davidcramer | like for upgrades |
| 02:32.32 | JamesObscura | I think there's a few ways to do that. |
| 02:32.36 | JamesObscura | This is probably not the best. |
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| 02:32.46 | `228zip | Volsky: I'd check that the guy is alive for safety measures |
| 02:32.56 | picklefish | so if I want to copy a unit |
| 02:33.01 | picklefish | I copy the base unit and the actors? |
| 02:33.02 | davidcramer | i remember wasting 2 hours to get weapon attachments to work as an ability |
| 02:33.02 | davidcramer | j |
| 02:33.03 | davidcramer | u |
| 02:33.03 | Volsky | o.O okay |
| 02:33.07 | davidcramer | just to find out they couldnt fire at the same time |
| 02:33.15 | Volsky | I was looking for a boss bar tutorial, :( |
| 02:33.52 | `228zip | How is the static keyword used ? do you place it before or after const ? can you use it for both functions and variables ? |
| 02:34.27 | peterpants | does anyone have any good tutorials on dealing with animations through triggers? |
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| 02:35.16 | JamesObscura | lol ok closer... now it's a spine crawler + photon cannon... |
| 02:35.39 | JamesObscura | Hmm... |
| 02:35.43 | JamesObscura | The turrets all messed up... |
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| 02:35.51 | dorkass | anyone working on an aos? |
| 02:36.38 | `228zip | We had an AoS overdose in WC3 |
| 02:36.40 | `228zip | so no |
| 02:37.15 | dorkass | im sure they'll be just as popular here |
| 02:37.36 | pile | we are gonna have a 3rd person shooter overdose here |
| 02:37.46 | `228zip | Still doesn't answer my question |
| 02:37.52 | lolwut_ | im trying to figure out a way to make a hero templete that people can use |
| 02:37.54 | `228zip | is static placed before or after const ? |
| 02:38.13 | dorkass | try it and find out |
| 02:38.27 | `228zip | Right, try it. |
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| 02:38.41 | pile | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/de-aos/ AOS |
| 02:38.54 | lolwut_ | has anyone looked into how mods work? |
| 02:39.13 | dorkass | you set the mod as a dependancy in the file properties |
| 02:39.21 | dorkass | then it just imports all the mod's shit into your maps database thing |
| 02:39.27 | dorkass | i think? |
| 02:39.51 | lolwut_ | was thinking of making a hero template as a mod |
| 02:40.00 | lolwut_ | save people setting all this crap up |
| 02:40.02 | lolwut_ | for every map |
| 02:40.04 | dorkass | yeah |
| 02:40.06 | lolwut_ | or at least myself |
| 02:40.11 | lolwut_ | :p |
| 02:40.16 | dorkass | well people cna at least open it up and copy everything |
| 02:40.44 | dorkass | or just add it as a dependancy to your map, i think that'll just save al lthe shit to the map |
| 02:40.55 | lolwut_ | hm |
| 02:40.59 | lolwut_ | i'll look into it |
| 02:41.21 | Skizot | http://pastebin.org/183374 |
| 02:41.22 | dorkass | like the other day a dude sent me a mod for a unit, i attached it to my map, and the unit in the mod replaced all my defaults, so that's as much proof of concept as ive gotten |
| 02:41.27 | Skizot | can anyone tell me why that is giving me this error |
| 02:41.33 | Skizot | Trigger Error in 'gt_KillUpdate_Func': e_arrayIndexOverflow |
| 02:41.41 | dorkass | i get that sometimes too |
| 02:41.47 | Skizot | it's not giving me a line or anything :( |
| 02:41.53 | dorkass | arrayindexoverflow means that the function addressed an index that didn't exist |
| 02:41.59 | dorkass | in an arrya |
| 02:42.05 | Skizot | index 1?? |
| 02:42.06 | `228zip | arrayIndexOverflow sounds clear |
| 02:42.13 | Technetium | http://sc.nibbits.com/maps/project/68420/padoraths-return-rpg |
| 02:42.18 | Bifuu | i kinda feel like streaming something but i have nothing to stream lol |
| 02:42.19 | Skizot | in a index 13? |
| 02:42.26 | dorkass | if the error specified which index it tried to access it might actually help.. |
| 02:42.36 | SevenSeven | @Sixen: is there any way to tell how many times a project has been downloaded? |
| 02:42.45 | `228zip | Me too Bifuu |
| 02:42.51 | Bifuu | SevenSeven: nope |
| 02:42.56 | Bifuu | im not Sixen but nope =/ |
| 02:43.04 | Skizot | other than that one thing... |
| 02:43.06 | `228zip | But that wouldn't be interesting, I'm optimizing my code =/ |
| 02:43.08 | Skizot | my map is done! |
| 02:43.16 | Volsky_ | Well i just figured out how to do boss bars |
| 02:43.18 | `228zip | Nice! |
| 02:43.21 | Volsky_ | its actually really, really simple |
| 02:43.28 | `228zip | Skizot, is it TopDownFighter ? |
| 02:43.31 | dorkass | Skizot, i think it's because Kills[(Owner of (Killing Unit))] would be referencing a number 1-12, rather than 0-11 |
| 02:43.31 | `228zip | or something ? |
| 02:43.35 | Skizot | god no. |
| 02:43.40 | Skizot | Marine Madness |
| 02:43.41 | Bifuu | I need another idea for a map toa ctually do, all my ideas i cant do because of Limitations =/ |
| 02:43.48 | dorkass | and your array's indices are 0-whatever |
| 02:43.51 | Volsky_ | Theres an trigger called Set boss bar boss, you set the unit, and it links it to that unit. |
| 02:43.54 | Skizot | yes |
| 02:43.56 | Skizot | 0-13 |
| 02:43.58 | `228zip | Skizot I'm convinced I dl'd it yesterday |
| 02:43.59 | davidcramer | that map looks nuts |
| 02:43.59 | warturtle | Bifuu want to work with me on a map :) |
| 02:44.12 | Skizot | did you? |
| 02:44.14 | dorkass | i finished my evolves madness, but it's super ghetto |
| 02:44.18 | `228zip | Skizot give the link on mapster |
| 02:44.20 | Bifuu | What kind of map warturtle? |
| 02:44.28 | Skizot | my map hasn't been released yet. |
| 02:44.56 | Skizot | any version anyone has is VERY old. |
| 02:45.06 | warturtle | basically it's sort of like contra/top down shooter with some building elements |
| 02:45.10 | warturtle | and levels/heroes etfc |
| 02:45.35 | Skizot | level / heroes are being WAY over used. |
| 02:45.39 | Skizot | no offense. |
| 02:45.49 | dorkass | any use is good use |
| 02:45.50 | warturtle | well it's not the main portion just elements of it |
| 02:45.52 | Bifuu | its ALLTHERAGE |
| 02:45.58 | supmeow | people like the feeling of progression |
| 02:46.05 | Bifuu | ^ |
| 02:46.10 | Skizot | that's what leaderboards are for! |
| 02:46.11 | Skizot | :P |
| 02:46.18 | supmeow | oh i get it |
| 02:46.19 | `228zip | levels are the most boring way of progressing |
| 02:46.26 | supmeow | you're one of those counterstrike /rank /rank /rank players :D |
| 02:46.31 | `228zip | A new badass gun on the other hand |
| 02:46.33 | supmeow | ARENTCHA! |
| 02:46.33 | Skizot | no lol. |
| 02:46.40 | Bifuu | warturtle: Is it a map that can utilize the shittyness of the lack of Mouse control for a topdown? lol |
| 02:46.44 | Skizot | i don't even play cs anymore. |
| 02:46.49 | Bifuu | thats blocking one of my map ideas =( |
| 02:46.50 | Skizot | not since like 1.3 |
| 02:46.58 | warturtle | yeah |
| 02:47.04 | supmeow | hey |
| 02:47.07 | supmeow | this is important |
| 02:47.13 | supmeow | any natural selection players up in here? |
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| 02:47.19 | `228zip | Bifuu; How does it stop you from doing your map Bifuu ? |
| 02:47.21 | tdelamay | Hey |
| 02:47.31 | `228zip | ho! |
| 02:47.42 | tdelamay | I'm having problems setting up a working AI |
| 02:47.45 | warturtle | the only thing it forces is you have to click everytime you want to fire |
| 02:47.50 | Bifuu | i need my Unit to Constantly face the mouse cursor |
| 02:47.57 | warturtle | so guns are more explodey rocket types than machine guns etc |
| 02:48.02 | supmeow | no natural selection players? forreals ? |
| 02:48.11 | Bifuu | supmeow: that source mod? |
| 02:48.14 | `228zip | warturtle: That is not necessary, you can simulate it. |
| 02:48.18 | supmeow | it was half-life |
| 02:48.25 | Bifuu | source half life same thing |
| 02:48.31 | Vaisnt | Supmeow: I've played it, not really play it anymore |
| 02:48.33 | Bifuu | I heard of it and know the basics behind it |
| 02:48.34 | `228zip | Bifuu: Why ? Is it that important ? |
| 02:48.35 | Bifuu | never played it |
| 02:48.35 | supmeow | not the same! lol |
| 02:48.37 | Skizot | i could set up a NS style map. |
| 02:48.40 | Skizot | probably. |
| 02:48.41 | supmeow | i don't play it anymore |
| 02:48.44 | supmeow | skiz |
| 02:48.44 | Bifuu | `228zip: pretty much |
| 02:48.48 | `228zip | Explain |
| 02:48.54 | supmeow | me and my crew are working on a ns sc2 map :) |
| 02:48.57 | tdelamay | What's the easier way to issue an attack order to an AI? |
| 02:48.59 | Skizot | an rts that you can take over a unit? |
| 02:49.08 | warturtle | 228 how do you emulate it? |
| 02:49.08 | supmeow | dunno the details of it |
| 02:49.12 | supmeow | it is in brainstorming mode atm |
| 02:49.23 | supmeow | but i played NS so much |
| 02:49.23 | warturtle | force the user to click every x seconds |
| 02:49.24 | warturtle | ? |
| 02:49.29 | `228zip | warturtle: I think I misunderstood |
| 02:49.30 | Marlox | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.34 | `228zip | Indeed, not possible |
| 02:49.46 | Skizot | marlox.. |
| 02:49.50 | warturtle | force them to run a macro that mouse3 clicks constantly :P |
| 02:49.55 | Skizot | you only want them to move on the x? |
| 02:50.01 | Marlox | Yes |
| 02:50.14 | Skizot | side scroller? |
| 02:50.23 | Bifuu | `228zip: Its a top down space shooter with an open "space" (not like Galaga) and the Ship needs to face the cursor and W or w/e key thast set for Up needs to accellerate the ship in the direction its facing for better control |
| 02:50.29 | Marlox | Yup. |
| 02:50.36 | Skizot | that's easy.. |
| 02:50.37 | Skizot | :D |
| 02:50.40 | `228zip | Bifuu: =/ |
| 02:50.41 | Marlox | :D |
| 02:50.41 | Skizot | wasd? |
| 02:50.54 | Shirik | screw wasd |
| 02:50.54 | Bifuu | `228zip: see |
| 02:50.54 | tdelamay | So, anyone knows about setting up an AI? O.o |
| 02:50.55 | Bifuu | lol |
| 02:51.01 | `228zip | WASD is the definition of unprecision. |
| 02:51.07 | Shirik | wqse movement ftw |
| 02:51.13 | warturtle | bifuu |
| 02:51.18 | warturtle | why not just move the ground texture |
| 02:51.22 | `228zip | ZQSD is all the rage here. |
| 02:51.23 | warturtle | and keep the ship in the same spot |
| 02:51.35 | Bifuu | warturtle: doesnt work that great for multiplayer =P |
| 02:51.37 | tdelamay | T_T |
| 02:51.42 | warturtle | well im sure there is a hack |
| 02:51.51 | warturtle | move it relative to the players |
| 02:51.53 | `228zip | Yea, we need a hack! |
| 02:51.56 | `228zip | x) |
| 02:52.00 | picklefish | If I want to copy a unit, I copy the base unit and the actors? |
| 02:52.04 | warturtle | and force the players to stay within a certain distance of eachother |
| 02:52.26 | warturtle | im sure there is a way |
| 02:52.35 | warturtle | just another layer of abstraction :P |
| 02:52.36 | Xorgat3 | warturtle |
| 02:52.41 | Xorgat3 | bound a region to a unit |
| 02:52.46 | Xorgat3 | and then just have a check that says if units leave hte region |
| 02:52.50 | warturtle | yeah |
| 02:52.55 | warturtle | give each player a different area |
| 02:52.58 | warturtle | create dummy actors |
| 02:53.04 | warturtle | that look the other players :P |
| 02:53.29 | warturtle | so each player has their own "space screen" |
| 02:53.30 | theDude | i got a question if any one can pm me and can help me with leaderboard setup, starring at pom.pom's thread in bewilderment on some "actions" |
| 02:53.32 | Bifuu | thast alot of work for something blizzard could fix in a few lines of code |
| 02:53.49 | Bifuu | hell it should work somehow, i need to fuck with it still |
| 02:53.52 | warturtle | Its not a lot of work if you automate it |
| 02:53.54 | warturtle | i think |
| 02:54.10 | warturtle | just some math functions |
| 02:54.14 | tdelamay | Why doesn't the AI's suicide command work? |
| 02:54.25 | picklefish | this editors crash a lotz |
| 02:54.35 | Motive | I haven't had a single crash. o_o |
| 02:54.41 | theDude | my editor doesnt crash |
| 02:54.43 | Motive | And I'm running it under virtualization. haha |
| 02:54.44 | theDude | unless i go to |
| 02:54.48 | theDude | preview manager |
| 02:54.56 | theDude | and that didnt always happen |
| 02:55.06 | warturtle | that or just mak a max size map and force all the ships in the same ish area |
| 02:55.54 | Bifuu | warturtle: its still a lame fix |
| 02:55.57 | Razernok | anyone know why I'm getting the error " |
| 02:55.57 | Razernok | 00:00:03.25 Trigger Error in 'gt_LoadHero_Func': Could not get 'bank' from parameter in '' (value: ) |
| 02:55.57 | Razernok | " |
| 02:56.09 | warturtle | well you're doing something the editor never intended :P |
| 02:56.15 | Razernok | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.23 | theDude | if anyone understands the leaderboard functions can i get some help :P plz |
| 02:56.48 | futah | razernok you might be passing in an empty string or something |
| 02:57.06 | Razernok | I'm storing a unit into the bank' |
| 02:57.40 | Razernok | then trying to restore it |
| 03:00.00 | Skizot | how do you lower water? |
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| 03:00.51 | Razernok | i have no clue why its erroring up like this |
| 03:01.07 | warturtle | If only TGE was as good as blizz's engine |
| 03:01.13 | warturtle | or another cheapish engine |
| 03:02.06 | Bifuu | Cheap engine? |
| 03:02.10 | Bifuu | UDK, its free |
| 03:02.13 | SevenSeven | wow camera controls suck |
| 03:02.25 | Bifuu | Cryengine 3, will be free |
| 03:02.29 | Razernok | is there any way for me to open up the bank file and read it? |
| 03:02.37 | warturtle | I havent looked at engines lately :/ |
| 03:02.41 | Bifuu | thast other one i cvant think of, free |
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| 03:03.53 | Bifuu | Unity is the other one |
| 03:04.30 | Bifuu | cant forget the Source Engine either, even tho its dated and free* |
| 03:04.47 | Razernok | I looked at my bank and it did actually save to the bank correctly |
| 03:05.13 | BlueGhostie | does anyone know how to change what the "tech tree help" displays? |
| 03:05.39 | futah | i can save/restore from bank just fine, i think one of your parameters is messed up |
| 03:06.41 | Razernok | futah, just checked the key and section and they match 100% |
| 03:09.15 | Marlox | I am trying to create a event that detects if a unit changes his Y position, I have: Unit - Hero Leaves within 2.0 of (Point((X of (Position of Hero)), (Y of Start))) |
| 03:09.23 | Marlox | But it doesn't want to work correctly =/ |
| 03:09.42 | Marlox | Start being a point that he is located near for a Y position |
| 03:13.13 | Guest11432 | is there an event that disables a trigger? |
| 03:13.41 | `228zip | event don't do shit |
| 03:13.45 | `228zip | They trigger shit. |
| 03:13.51 | Marlox | Damn straight zippy |
| 03:13.56 | Marlox | You show that guest |
| 03:14.00 | `228zip | x) |
| 03:14.01 | Guest11432 | i meant an action |
| 03:14.05 | Marlox | Yes, there is. |
| 03:14.08 | theDude | any got leaderboards down and can lend a hand? |
| 03:14.10 | Marlox | It's under trigger. |
| 03:14.30 | `228zip | theDude: Did you wc3 leaderboards tutorials ? |
| 03:14.33 | Marlox | Turn Trigger On/Off |
| 03:14.47 | theDude | well, my problem is |
| 03:14.53 | theDude | tryin to turn an action |
| 03:14.57 | theDude | into something i cant |
| 03:15.00 | theDude | only 3 lines |
| 03:15.04 | theDude | are confusing me |
| 03:15.07 | Marlox | Damn, none of my questions get answers, I don't know if its me or I do things weird ways... |
| 03:15.23 | Guest11432 | ty marlox |
| 03:15.29 | Marlox | np gusety |
| 03:16.00 | `228zip | Marlox, for your last question |
| 03:16.05 | theDude | like this line for example |
| 03:16.05 | Marlox | Oh boy! |
| 03:16.06 | theDude | Variable - Set Max Kills = (Max(Max Kills, (Player (Killing player) Enemy Units Killed score))) |
| 03:16.07 | Marlox | Go zip go! |
| 03:16.09 | `228zip | have you tried with making that point a variable ? |
| 03:16.14 | Razernok | this is weird, I've check the restore triggers and they are all correct but won't load my heros |
| 03:16.15 | theDude | i cant figure out the patarn |
| 03:16.25 | Marlox | I thought about it, have not tried |
| 03:16.29 | Marlox | worth a shot |
| 03:16.37 | `228zip | because it should theoretically be deleted by the garbage collector, and I don't know if the event likes that |
| 03:17.07 | `228zip | Also, you should use a region for taht |
| 03:17.14 | Bifuu | can i say, new scan animation is fucking stupid |
| 03:17.18 | Marlox | Was trying to avoid making more regions |
| 03:17.21 | Marlox | If it can't be helped |
| 03:17.23 | `228zip | Agreed Bifuu |
| 03:17.35 | Bifuu | ORANGE CIRCLE OF DOOM |
| 03:17.49 | Marlox | I think it needed adjusted or changed... not sure if I like the ' ORANGE CIRCLE OF DOOM! ' |
| 03:17.52 | `228zip | It's supposed to give vision, not hide everything under it x) |
| 03:18.15 | `228zip | It's way too orange |
| 03:18.23 | `228zip | and there is still no way to tell who scanned |
| 03:18.46 | theDude | im just having no luck at it :P |
| 03:19.03 | theDude | i get the board to show and all just no changing values |
| 03:19.35 | `228zip | Do you use the GUI ? |
| 03:20.05 | theDude | yes |
| 03:20.32 | `228zip | Ach |
| 03:20.48 | theDude | -.- |
| 03:20.52 | `228zip | GUI is too complicated for me, I can't use it. |
| 03:21.07 | theDude | lol damn |
| 03:21.33 | `228zip | The problem I have with the GUI |
| 03:21.36 | theDude | im slowly figuring it out, but i wanna get this leader board working before i go further in my map |
| 03:21.53 | BlueGhostie | anyone know where I can edit whats in the tech tree help menu? |
| 03:21.54 | `228zip | is that it does way more things than you'd think it does for some simple actions |
| 03:22.23 | theDude | ya |
| 03:22.24 | `228zip | so, theDude, your values don't refresh right ? |
| 03:22.26 | theDude | hidden |
| 03:22.31 | theDude | right |
| 03:22.34 | picklefish | how do I reveal the whole map? |
| 03:22.38 | theDude | im stuck on 3 lines of code |
| 03:22.45 | theDude | i think once i get them fixed up |
| 03:22.49 | theDude | i should be fine |
| 03:23.01 | `228zip | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.04 | dorkass | picklefish, Visibility - Auto-reveal (Playable map area) for player (Picked player) when his units are in (Playable map area) |
| 03:23.06 | `228zip | I guess you're using that action |
| 03:23.29 | theDude | yes |
| 03:23.40 | Marlox | You know Zip |
| 03:23.40 | picklefish | mmm but what if he has no units? |
| 03:23.50 | Marlox | I think the issue is that it is not re-catching the marine's X position |
| 03:24.00 | `228zip | Marlox: What do you mean ? |
| 03:24.12 | Marlox | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.16 | Marlox | X of Position of Hero |
| 03:24.30 | Marlox | It works as long as I am where I exactly started |
| 03:24.31 | `228zip | theDude: Have you tried hiding and reshowing the thing ? |
| 03:24.32 | Marlox | otherwise it dosen't |
| 03:24.40 | `228zip | Marlox Sonds logical |
| 03:24.43 | theDude | well my problem is |
| 03:24.53 | `228zip | Marlox Working as intended.. by the developpers. |
| 03:24.53 | theDude | getting my kills to go to the board |
| 03:25.00 | Marlox | Damn you developers! |
| 03:25.02 | theDude | i got the board to show all players that are playing |
| 03:25.05 | Marlox | You and your working! |
| 03:25.09 | zifoon | is there any map protection inside galaxy? |
| 03:25.13 | Marlox | Not yet |
| 03:25.14 | theDude | for instance |
| 03:25.18 | theDude | getting this line of code |
| 03:25.20 | theDude | Variable - Set Max Kills = (Max(Max Kills, (Player (Killing player) Enemy Units Killed score))) |
| 03:25.26 | theDude | bewwilders me |
| 03:25.34 | `228zip | wait a sec |
| 03:25.38 | `228zip | Trying to decipher that |
| 03:25.47 | theDude | because i cant figure out how to (Max(Max Kills, (Player (Killing player) Enemy Units Killed score))) |
| 03:26.02 | `228zip | Player (Killing player) Enemy Units Killed score |
| 03:26.05 | `228zip | What ? |
| 03:26.07 | `228zip | is? |
| 03:26.07 | Razernok | this is really weird, on my bank restore actions the keys and sections match 100% but it won't restore |
| 03:26.08 | `228zip | that ? |
| 03:26.25 | theDude | lol, idk i got this info |
| 03:26.31 | theDude | off pom.poms guide |
| 03:26.33 | `228zip | isn't that for the score screen at the end of the game ? |
| 03:26.34 | theDude | on battle.net |
| 03:27.06 | theDude | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24570036995&sid=5000 |
| 03:27.09 | `228zip | Sounds too complicated, just increment a var each time |
| 03:27.25 | dorkass | theDude, make an array with indices for each player |
| 03:27.39 | `228zip | ^ |
| 03:28.00 | dorkass | then run a function on Unit Killed event, set variable killarray[Killing Player] = killarray[killing player]+ 1 |
| 03:28.05 | dorkass | and also update the leaderboad text |
| 03:28.08 | dorkass | with the new variable |
| 03:28.11 | `228zip | and he uses boss bars to compare each player's kill ? |
| 03:28.20 | `228zip | That's completely overkill x) |
| 03:28.20 | peterpants | is there a function to see if a point is pathable by ground? |
| 03:28.40 | Razernok | Can someone help me with my restore triggers for banks |
| 03:28.51 | `228zip | peterpants |
| 03:28.51 | `228zip | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1979/ |
| 03:29.30 | Motive | The max players in a map was confirmed to be 14 right? |
| 03:29.53 | `228zip | native bool PointPathingPassable (point p); |
| 03:29.56 | `228zip | The max players |
| 03:29.57 | `228zip | is 16* |
| 03:30.08 | Motive | 16 in the editor but can all 16 be physical players? |
| 03:30.14 | `228zip | You can change those two computers in players |
| 03:30.21 | Motive | awesome. :P |
| 03:30.21 | Razernok | Can someone help me with my restore triggers for banks? |
| 03:30.23 | peterpants | didn't se ethat in the GUI but cool |
| 03:30.59 | `228zip | Razernok What trigger banks ? |
| 03:31.22 | Razernok | I'm trying to restore stuff from my bank but its not working |
| 03:31.30 | Razernok | it won't restore |
| 03:31.31 | `228zip | You mean from a map to another ? |
| 03:31.45 | `228zip | what bank are you talking about ? |
| 03:31.46 | Razernok | in the same map just in different sessions |
| 03:32.22 | picklefish | Where do "Commands+" come from? |
| 03:32.25 | `228zip | You're on your own, I don't think anyone's experimented with them and posted their results |
| 03:32.46 | Motive | I'm using banks. |
| 03:32.47 | Motive | :P |
| 03:32.53 | Motive | I haven't tried swapping them between maps but they work fine. |
| 03:33.00 | DarkIce | picklefish abilities + |
| 03:33.05 | Motive | No reason why with a proper BankSave() call they wouldn't. |
| 03:33.19 | picklefish | thanks |
| 03:33.26 | Guest11432 | Hmmm, where do i setup player groups? |
| 03:33.45 | `228zip | Guest -> Map -> Player Properties |
| 03:33.48 | `228zip | Or something |
| 03:34.22 | `228zip | Motive: Well, maybe it doesn't work between maps that aren't in the same campaign |
| 03:34.23 | Razernok | motive, save bank works fine. I check the bank file in dreamweaver and the data is there but it won't restore |
| 03:34.25 | Marlox | Hey Zip, do you know if using constant timers as an event is ineffecient, not sure if I should make a timer event that checks condition to see if he's off track or just say screw it and make a long region |
| 03:34.53 | AndyBear225 | How would I add a difficulty option to me TD? How would I alter the units health up or down? |
| 03:34.57 | `228zip | marlox: use a region, timers are too much for this IMO |
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| 03:35.06 | Marlox | :) okay |
| 03:35.13 | `228zip | Obviously we don't know what's the best yet =X |
| 03:35.18 | Razernok | brb |
| 03:35.23 | Motive | Don't think of it in terms of "is doing xyz" inefficient. Just think of it in terms of whatever uses as few loops and runs as little as possible. |
| 03:35.25 | Marlox | `228zip: SC2Mapster should pay you more :O |
| 03:35.36 | *** part/#sc2mapster valkrial1 (~stephen@S01060014bfa7b70f.pk.shawcable.net) |
| 03:35.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster valkrial1 (~stephen@S01060014bfa7b70f.pk.shawcable.net) |
| 03:35.40 | *** part/#sc2mapster valkrial1 (~stephen@S01060014bfa7b70f.pk.shawcable.net) |
| 03:35.41 | `228zip | Marlox: I'm not being paid at all x) |
| 03:35.52 | `228zip | And it's 5:30 oh god |
| 03:35.52 | Marlox | Of course your not *pat pat* |
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| 03:36.01 | Ignorance | Why isn't it possible to have first person maps? |
| 03:36.07 | Marlox | It is possible |
| 03:36.08 | Ignorance | seems weird I haven't seen any |
| 03:36.10 | `228zip | Why wouldn't it be ? |
| 03:36.11 | Marlox | There's one already made |
| 03:36.14 | Ignorance | oh |
| 03:36.19 | Guest11432 | I'm currently in player properties, but i think this is for teams, are teams the same things as groups for player group triggers? |
| 03:36.19 | `228zip | Because 3rd person is all the rage |
| 03:36.21 | `228zip | That's why |
| 03:36.30 | Marlox | Just not the easiest thing on a beta galaxy editor that's been out less than a week |
| 03:36.35 | AndyBear225 | How do I alter a units HP via triggers? |
| 03:36.37 | davidcramer | tbh i just want sexy tds |
| 03:36.41 | davidcramer | :D |
| 03:36.55 | AndyBear225 | or is there an ability/effect I can give a mob Via triggers that will boost its HP. |
| 03:36.55 | `228zip | AndyBear225: Set Unit Property |
| 03:37.08 | Ignorance | I suspect tds will be a relative rarity with how hard the data editor is to use. :P |
| 03:37.09 | Motive | Not WC3, you can edit it directly like 228 said. :) |
| 03:37.16 | Ignorance | hard to make a bunch of similar units |
| 03:37.18 | davidcramer | Ignorance: its easier than wc3 ;P |
| 03:37.23 | davidcramer | tho some of the linking is a HUGE timesink |
| 03:37.28 | davidcramer | you have to make 10 objects for every object :/ |
| 03:37.29 | `228zip | Motive: You can ? I didn't try it |
| 03:37.35 | `228zip | Max HP too ? |
| 03:37.38 | Technetium | damn |
| 03:37.40 | AndyBear225 | Ignorance, once you learn how, making units its very simple and fast. |
| 03:37.44 | Technetium | I'm badass at terraining |
| 03:37.45 | Motive | I didn't try it either but if it's un Unit_Properties_2 enum it should be changeable. |
| 03:37.46 | Bifuu | if `228zip gets paid i want my check =/ |
| 03:37.47 | davidcramer | i wouldnt say fast, its easier :P |
| 03:38.06 | davidcramer | Bifuu: all nibbits staff get sc2 :P |
| 03:38.06 | davidcramer | gg |
| 03:38.12 | Technetium | I'm usually more modest, but damn |
| 03:38.23 | `228zip | Screenies please |
| 03:38.28 | davidcramer | Technetium: seems theres quite a few of you terrain guys around, ive seen some impressive shit the last few days |
| 03:38.31 | Bifuu | davidcramer: all 2 of you? =P |
| 03:38.32 | Technetium | david, I want to make a sc2 map like that one |
| 03:38.37 | davidcramer | Bifuu: nah thats like a dozen |
| 03:38.41 | Razernok | wow, I'm so dumb. i figured it out. when opening the bank the name can't contain any spaces |
| 03:38.41 | davidcramer | Technetium: ah |
| 03:38.43 | Technetium | badass |
| 03:38.54 | Bifuu | davidcramer: well i dont even work for sc2mapster soooooooo doesnt bother me |
| 03:38.57 | `228zip | Technetium: Got screenshots ? |
| 03:39.08 | Ignorance | AndyBear225, I would love a demonstration of how units can be made quickly. It seems like I have to jump through a dozen hoops to make anything other than an identical clone. |
| 03:39.12 | davidcramer | Bifuu: ya no one "works" for Nibbits, we're all just a bunch of guys who like maps :) |
| 03:39.16 | davidcramer | I dont even make money from it >< |
| 03:39.21 | Motive | I think you can use the Duplicate Unit function |
| 03:39.24 | Bifuu | Even tho now that i think about it i think im supposed to be writing for another site i forgot about >.< oops |
| 03:39.27 | Motive | iirc it duplicates all the actors in the unit, too. |
| 03:39.28 | Technetium | let me get one |
| 03:39.30 | davidcramer | duplicate unit *does* help, but its still tedious |
| 03:39.35 | `228zip | davidcramer: Don't worry, you'll get some ads in |
| 03:39.46 | Ignorance | dublicate unit makes it so the old unit gets all the new guy's stuff >:[ |
| 03:39.51 | davidcramer | `228zip: nah its not a big deal, ic ould make money if I wanted, its not what its about :P |
| 03:40.00 | davidcramer | Ill just be happy when the site pays for itself :) |
| 03:40.10 | `228zip | davidcramer: You need to pay the server! |
| 03:40.12 | davidcramer | the closer it gets, the more ways I find to waste money |
| 03:40.17 | JamesObscura | davidcramer, w/e I'm done working on this for now... It doesn't work very well, but it works enough. |
| 03:40.18 | JamesObscura | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/natd-not-another-td/files/1-natd-not-another-td/ |
| 03:40.25 | AndyBear225 | Ignorance: I just Dup a marine (for example) and select Actor, then edit anything as needed. |
| 03:40.34 | davidcramer | cool ill check it out JamesObscura -- I had given up and all my units use the same model :D |
| 03:40.45 | `228zip | davidcramer: Shouldn't Blizzard's browser render nibbits useless ? |
| 03:40.53 | Bifuu | Or just create a new unit and duplicate the extras you need accordingly |
| 03:40.53 | davidcramer | `228zip: nah |
| 03:40.56 | Bifuu | and you are good |
| 03:40.57 | Bifuu | =D |
| 03:41.01 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/tools/selection-mode/ by Statcomm |
| 03:41.09 | davidcramer | `228zip: it might make it *less* useful, but that depends on how they implement it |
| 03:41.17 | JamesObscura | davidcramer, I can give you a step by step if you need, although I'm only partially aware of what everything does. |
| 03:41.22 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/tools/snap-to-grid/ by Statcomm |
| 03:41.24 | AndyBear225 | I've been working on TD style maps (None will be publish, simply for learning purposes) and I've created a lot of units and I've just gotten used to it :P |
| 03:41.36 | davidcramer | JamesObscura: I think I got the grasp of what you were saying earlier, so I'll check out what you did and try my hand here at some point |
| 03:41.42 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/tools/use-group-selection/ by Statcomm |
| 03:41.45 | davidcramer | i was trying to do a nuke launcher the other day |
| 03:41.49 | davidcramer | i failed miserably at that |
| 03:41.50 | Ignorance | AndyBear225, when I select actor, it just brings me back to the overall marine. |
| 03:41.57 | davidcramer | couldnt get anything to work, not the effect, not the projectile, nothing |
| 03:42.02 | `228zip | The local initialization makes me a sad panda |
| 03:42.04 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/tools/brush/ by Statcomm |
| 03:42.05 | Ignorance | It bugs out. |
| 03:42.21 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/tools/random/ by Statcomm |
| 03:42.23 | JamesObscura | AndyBear225, You wouldn't happen to have done building morphs would you? |
| 03:42.27 | Marlox | `228zip: Thank you for all your support today, gave me the most help in the whole 20 minutes you were talking to me ;) Night Everyone |
| 03:42.42 | `228zip | Good night! |
| 03:42.48 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/tools/tablet/ by Statcomm |
| 03:43.02 | davidcramer | man that bot spam is annoying :P |
| 03:43.02 | AndyBear225 | JamesObscura: Nay, but I hear people have problems with it, so i'll be working on it sometime tomorrow. |
| 03:43.10 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/natd-not-another-td/. NATD - Not Another TD. JamesObscura (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 03:43.14 | `228zip | He really needs another name |
| 03:43.15 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/g-3pshooter/. 3PShooter. Grogian (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 03:43.18 | `228zip | Like |
| 03:43.20 | `228zip | MapsterBot |
| 03:43.34 | JamesObscura | I've got it partially working but it's got a lot of bugs. |
| 03:43.35 | `228zip | Or NeverGonnaGiveYouUp |
| 03:43.37 | `228zip | or something |
| 03:43.40 | `228zip | not Repo |
| 03:43.41 | Statcomm | Ugh, I keep forgetting that when I update stuff like this, Repo starts going haywire =/ |
| 03:43.42 | AndyBear225 | What bugs do you have? |
| 03:43.43 | davidcramer | :P |
| 03:43.48 | davidcramer | Statcomm: not your fault ;) |
| 03:43.54 | Ignorance | AndyBear225, when you select actor from unit, an infinite loop occurs. -- |
| 03:44.21 | Statcomm | I suppose davidcramer, not much I can do though I wish it could just condense streams of update or something :( |
| 03:44.27 | Ignorance | There we go. |
| 03:44.35 | AndyBear225 | Ignorance: A loop? Dup a unit and only check off Actor, it creates a new unit you can edit how you please. |
| 03:44.52 | JamesObscura | AndyBear225, I think the only problem left is the turret is screwed up. |
| 03:44.55 | Technetium | http://i43.tinypic.com/2v0igp3.jpg |
| 03:44.56 | JamesObscura | It's not animated right. |
| 03:45.08 | Technetium | the regions in the valley are unit spawns |
| 03:45.10 | JamesObscura | And it replaces the spine crawler when it fires. |
| 03:45.10 | Statcomm | I think I just figured something out, if I put someones names first followed by ":" they will see my name in red? |
| 03:45.22 | JamesObscura | Statcomm, yes |
| 03:45.25 | Technetium | once you cross the first, it spawn burrowed zerings and then they pop up to get ya |
| 03:45.29 | JamesObscura | It's called pinging |
| 03:45.37 | Ignorance | Oh. |
| 03:45.38 | Ignorance | I see. |
| 03:45.38 | Statcomm | Ah useful! Alright thanks. |
| 03:45.39 | Ignorance | Thanks. |
| 03:45.49 | JamesObscura | Some people have it set up to make sounds too. |
| 03:46.16 | AndyBear225 | My Opera IRC chat just puts a dotted line around the text, very helpful :) |
| 03:46.24 | Technetium | I attach a camera to make it sc1-ish, but you can use z and c to rotate around |
| 03:46.26 | JamesObscura | AndyBear225, I think I have to mess with the actors for the turrets... |
| 03:46.27 | Statcomm | Must be annoying if Repo starts going mad with sound. |
| 03:47.06 | AndyBear225 | I'm no sure, hopefully I'll get something working when I try it out. |
| 03:47.09 | Technetium | actors are what act out all the actions in the game |
| 03:47.15 | Ignorance | AndyBear225, nope. It still changes it in the original. |
| 03:47.16 | Technetium | think of it like that |
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| 03:47.27 | Technetium | all effects are acted out by actors, visually |
| 03:47.31 | Ignorance | AndyBear225: i.e. I change the weapon on the copy and it changes the original as well |
| 03:48.06 | AndyBear225 | Yeah it does, for my purposes, I dont care about messing up the originals because I make all custom units, and thats the fastest way. |
| 03:48.20 | `228zip | Oh |
| 03:48.21 | `228zip | a note |
| 03:48.24 | Ignorance | AnyBear225: Then why make duplicates at all? |
| 03:48.34 | `228zip | PointWithOffsetPolar use degrees instead of radians |
| 03:48.42 | AndyBear225 | Can't rename them I think. |
| 03:48.52 | AndyBear225 | unless you dup |
| 03:49.16 | Ignorance | You can rename them, just not their ID, which AFAIK doesn't matter. |
| 03:49.23 | Technetium | I find something closest to what I want in the data editor and dupe it =P |
| 03:49.23 | Statcomm | Well good night folks, happy map making. |
| 03:49.28 | Ignorance | My problem is I can't make two different kinds of marines thanks to this bug. |
| 03:49.31 | Technetium | then adjust it |
| 03:49.41 | Shixax | are there any tutorials to get started with mapmaking? Other than the one making the marine shoot seeker missiles? |
| 03:49.50 | Technetium | winging it can have adverse effects sometimes |
| 03:50.09 | AndyBear225 | You would have to dup each thing you wanted different, which I could see how that could get time consuming. |
| 03:50.20 | Technetium | same as adding one |
| 03:50.37 | `228zip | Alright, MovementSyst has been converted |
| 03:50.42 | `228zip | onto the custom UI now! |
| 03:50.45 | Technetium | i'M SAYING IF i WANT A CUSTOM UNIT OR EFFECT |
| 03:50.50 | Technetium | fucking caps, my bad |
| 03:51.08 | Technetium | stops tipping back the bottle |
| 03:51.27 | liq3 | Ignorance: bug? |
| 03:51.38 | `228zip | Tech, I want to see some of your terrain =O |
| 03:52.05 | liq3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.25 | Ignorance | double checking |
| 03:52.28 | liq3 | :P |
| 03:53.07 | Ignorance | oh |
| 03:53.11 | Ignorance | it seems you are correct |
| 03:53.11 | Ignorance | :) |
| 03:53.17 | liq3 | <3 |
| 03:53.28 | Ignorance | Time to make marines that shoot lazers. |
| 03:53.34 | liq3 | lol. |
| 03:53.39 | *** part/#sc2mapster SCMapper (~mixmaxtwo@sjs-130-65-215-119.sjsu.edu) |
| 03:53.39 | liq3 | Not gonna beat my marauders that shoot nukes. :D |
| 03:54.03 | liq3 | I should make a video... HRm |
| 03:54.08 | Technetium | just wait until I figure out the terrain deformation actor |
| 03:54.20 | Xapti | my super marine (supermarie) shoots bc missiles |
| 03:54.21 | Technetium | I'm gonna make missles that blow holes in the ground |
| 03:54.29 | Xapti | which, in sc2, arne't really lasers though |
| 03:54.29 | Technetium | =P |
| 03:54.37 | Cube | does anyone know where i might find game designers and artists interested in doing a game with sc2 as the platform? |
| 03:54.38 | liq3 | Xapti: XD |
| 03:54.41 | Cube | have a few programmers |
| 03:54.41 | Cube | :D |
| 03:54.53 | liq3 | "game designers"? |
| 03:55.00 | Cube | people who generate content |
| 03:55.10 | Xapti | it also shoots ground-targetable seeker missiles (which i will mod more in the future) |
| 03:55.11 | Cube | top down design |
| 03:55.20 | Ignorance | I can program in java. :P |
| 03:55.27 | Cube | i can do java and c++ |
| 03:55.28 | Cube | :D |
| 03:55.34 | Ignorance | Well, fuck you sir. ;) |
| 03:55.36 | AndyBear225 | I know xhtml! >_>... |
| 03:55.49 | Ignorance | There's like no difference anyway. |
| 03:55.49 | Xapti | Doe someone how how this damn camera pan works? |
| 03:55.51 | liq3 | I can do python and C++ .o.o |
| 03:55.52 | Xapti | Pan the camera over x seconds with x% initial velocity, x% deceleration, and Do Not use smart panning |
| 03:55.57 | Xapti | how does that work |
| 03:55.57 | Tehwildcard | I once got a high score on my local tetris arcade machine... I think I win |
| 03:56.00 | Ignorance | super easy to go from one to the other |
| 03:56.06 | Cube | yeah |
| 03:56.06 | Cube | lol |
| 03:56.14 | liq3 | cube: i dunno. Everyone I help in "teams" usually ends up dying. :p |
| 03:56.20 | Cube | baww |
| 03:56.23 | Cube | that is what i'm afraid of |
| 03:56.45 | Xapti | for some reason, unless i set hte seconds to 0, it either won't center (will actually move further away every time it pans |
| 03:56.48 | `228zip | Any idea what smart panning is ? |
| 03:56.55 | Xapti | or it won't do anything |
| 03:56.56 | Ignorance | I refuse to work with other people on the grounds that I prefer to just doll out advice on IRC channels, since I'm da best. |
| 03:57.00 | Technetium | tehwildcard: have you seen 'the king of kong' |
| 03:57.06 | Tehwildcard | lol |
| 03:57.08 | Tehwildcard | Great movie |
| 03:57.08 | Guest11432 | whats the action to send a text dialog to players during game? |
| 03:57.18 | Technetium | somehow I know ;P |
| 03:57.18 | Xapti | no zip. I'm trying to get hte pan thing working (at all, let alone the smart pan) |
| 03:57.25 | Technetium | knew* |
| 03:57.34 | Xapti | it will only center on my unit if i set the pan time to 0 |
| 03:57.35 | liq3 | cube: if you can get everyone organized then sure... :/ |
| 03:57.40 | Xapti | but doing that makes it too jerky |
| 03:57.46 | Technetium | lied about stopping tipping back the bottle |
| 03:57.50 | Cube | i'm trying lol |
| 03:57.51 | Xapti | problem is when it's not 0, it doesn't center at all |
| 03:58.03 | Xapti | i dunno wtf it works |
| 03:58.07 | Tehwildcard | Xapti what are you trying to do? |
| 03:58.08 | Cube | i have another programmer who says he would like to |
| 03:58.09 | Xapti | *htf |
| 03:58.13 | Cube | and i know he is reliable |
| 03:58.25 | Cube | you have msn? |
| 03:58.26 | `228zip | WTF |
| 03:58.28 | `228zip | Mapster |
| 03:58.30 | `228zip | Doesn't work |
| 03:58.37 | `228zip | "Email address is already in use." |
| 03:58.38 | Xapti | i'm trying to center to a unit over 0.2 to maybe 0.8 seconds (depending on what works) |
| 03:58.48 | `228zip | yet |
| 03:58.49 | `228zip | "An account with this e-mail address could not be located." |
| 03:58.51 | Xapti | but it won't work unless i set the time to 0.. |
| 03:58.51 | liq3 | Cube: not too sure what I'd be able to do tho. xD I can do triggers and data editing (altho still trying to figure it out o.o). could put my hand into map making again too (terrain side). :/ |
| 03:59.04 | Xapti | i don't know good values to use to the velocity and deceleration |
| 03:59.13 | Cube | well it helps to have people |
| 03:59.14 | Xapti | it doesn't make it center at all if those values aren't fight |
| 03:59.16 | Xapti | *right |
| 03:59.17 | liq3 | 165... 166...167. :D |
| 03:59.21 | Tehwildcard | Why are you panning to it? Just a cinematic or making the camera look at him? |
| 03:59.25 | Cube | what we really need are artsy level design people |
| 03:59.30 | Xapti | just for hte camera |
| 03:59.34 | Ignorance | lol artsy level design people |
| 03:59.37 | Cube | and writers |
| 03:59.38 | Cube | lol |
| 03:59.41 | Tehwildcard | Like you want the camera to constantly look at him? |
| 03:59.43 | Ignorance | yeah, good luck wioth that |
| 03:59.51 | Xapti | well, yes |
| 03:59.57 | `228zip | Sixen, could you help with a problem with SC2Mapster registration ? |
| 03:59.59 | Tehwildcard | Don't use pan then :P |
| 04:00.01 | Xapti | i have a "follow unit" action alreayd |
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| 04:00.05 | Xapti | but it doesn't center |
| 04:00.20 | Xapti | so i center it any time the camera is adjusted agian |
| 04:00.30 | Tehwildcard | create a region attached to the unit |
| 04:00.35 | Tehwildcard | and just center on region |
| 04:00.42 | liq3 | cube: i could try. Not saying I'd be too good tho. :P |
| 04:00.45 | Xapti | how is that different than centering on unit? |
| 04:00.56 | Tehwildcard | It worked for me |
| 04:01.01 | Xapti | isn't the whole point of sc2 editor so you dont' need to do stuff like that? |
| 04:01.04 | Cube | haha liq3 , that's how i feel too |
| 04:01.07 | Tehwildcard | Not sure why you're having problems with the unit |
| 04:01.09 | Cube | i'm scared of disapproval |
| 04:01.10 | Cube | :P |
| 04:01.12 | Tehwildcard | You shouldn't have to pan though |
| 04:01.18 | `228zip | Is there any SC2Mapster staff member here ? =( |
| 04:01.20 | Xapti | the centering isn't the problem it'self, it's a problem when my centering time isn't 0 |
| 04:01.23 | liq3 | Cube: Ok I'm lying. If I actually manage to finish a map it'd probably be epic. -_- |
| 04:01.27 | Xapti | if it's 0 it works, but it's really jagged |
| 04:01.46 | Cube | i'm confident in my ability to 'make it work' |
| 04:01.48 | Tehwildcard | Oh |
| 04:01.50 | Xapti | if it's not 0 (with the current values i've tried for velocity and deceleration), then it doesn't center |
| 04:01.51 | Cube | i just need to know what 'it' is |
| 04:01.58 | Tehwildcard | Whats your event? |
| 04:02.05 | liq3 | I'm confident in my ability to make cool stuff. Just not my ability to finish it. qq |
| 04:02.08 | Xapti | button press |
| 04:02.11 | Cube | hmm |
| 04:02.21 | Tehwildcard | Think that's the problem |
| 04:02.23 | Tehwildcard | not really the pan |
| 04:02.26 | AndyBear225 | How do I change a units collision? |
| 04:02.37 | Xapti | tehwildcard, i can show you the map, it's quite small/simple |
| 04:02.38 | Tehwildcard | Even if you do perodic event .00001 it is still jagged |
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| 04:03.02 | Xapti | the hotkey is used to adjust the camera |
| 04:03.10 | Xapti | then once the hotkey is let go, it re-centers |
| 04:03.10 | Tehwildcard | oh |
| 04:03.15 | Tehwildcard | hm |
| 04:03.22 | Xapti | because when rotating the camera, it looses center |
| 04:03.44 | Kylegar | anyone have an idea how I could change a unit's model with an effect? |
| 04:04.02 | Xapti | you'll probably have to be more specific kylegar |
| 04:04.12 | Kylegar | well |
| 04:04.21 | Xapti | want to see the map Tehwildcard? |
| 04:04.21 | Kylegar | I want to create a custom Marine Shield effect |
| 04:04.23 | Tehwildcard | Yeah |
| 04:04.33 | Kylegar | that adds armor and some other stats |
| 04:04.48 | Kylegar | but, I want to change the marines model to have the shield when this behavior is in effect |
| 04:04.57 | Xapti | ok 1 minute |
| 04:07.14 | Xapti | http://www.filedropper.com/test1_6 |
| 04:07.36 | picklefish | sigh this is getting annoying |
| 04:08.06 | `228zip | Kylegar, You don't mind if I have your "TO THE TRIGGERMOBIEL" in my signature ? |
| 04:08.19 | picklefish | all I want to do is create an ability, that shoots a missle at a location that is targeted with the psistorm indicator |
| 04:08.31 | Xapti | Kyle, you could probably just edit (or copy) the combat shield research ability |
| 04:08.38 | Xapti | and hten modify it's effects |
| 04:08.46 | Xapti | as long as the effects are simple |
| 04:08.46 | Kylegar | I thought about that |
| 04:08.54 | Kylegar | but they aren't effectable effects |
| 04:09.01 | Kylegar | ie: I can't make them effects |
| 04:09.09 | Kylegar | when the upgrade completes, it changes marines |
| 04:09.18 | Kylegar | without issuing an effect to all of them |
| 04:09.25 | Xapti | you don't need to |
| 04:09.33 | Xapti | shield upgrade upgrades all marines retroactively |
| 04:09.48 | Xapti | if you copy or edit that upgrade, that won't be a problem |
| 04:10.14 | Kylegar | no |
| 04:10.19 | Kylegar | I want it to be a behavior |
| 04:10.23 | Kylegar | because I have an item |
| 04:10.27 | `228zip | I take that for a yes, Kylegar =p |
| 04:10.29 | Kylegar | that I want to change the model of the marine |
| 04:10.41 | Kylegar | `228zip i dont care |
| 04:10.45 | `228zip | ok |
| 04:11.16 | Kylegar | Xapti the effects of the upgrade don't work with normal effects |
| 04:11.23 | Kylegar | it looks like a different type of effect |
| 04:11.25 | Xapti | oooooooh, you mean you want it to only effect 1 unit |
| 04:11.29 | Kylegar | yea |
| 04:11.39 | Kylegar | Hero picks up item-> Gains shield |
| 04:11.40 | Xapti | 1 unit out of a bunch of units that are the same? or |
| 04:11.52 | Xapti | cause if the hero is the only unit of it's kind, then it's still not a problem |
| 04:11.56 | `228zip | Damn I can't choose my nickname on mapster because I had an account on curse |
| 04:11.57 | AndyBear225 | How do I change a units collision size or radius? |
| 04:12.03 | `228zip | but that one is deprecated! |
| 04:12.23 | Kylegar | it still remains, how do you change a model with an effect or behavior? |
| 04:12.32 | Xapti | andybear, i think it's under unit, but it might be the actor |
| 04:12.45 | Xapti | there's maybe 2, 1 might be for buildigns |
| 04:15.01 | Kylegar | ahahaha |
| 04:15.03 | Kylegar | figured it out |
| 04:15.05 | Kylegar | it's an ability |
| 04:15.09 | Kylegar | to change your model |
| 04:15.46 | Xapti | yeah makes sense |
| 04:15.55 | Kylegar | morph ability |
| 04:16.51 | Xapti | Andybear did you find it? |
| 04:16.58 | AndyBear225 | Im comparing a Stalker to a zealot, and I cant find any differences for collision radius... |
| 04:17.07 | Xapti | it's radius for units and innerradius for buildings |
| 04:17.18 | DaveKapp | uugghh |
| 04:17.20 | AndyBear225 | under what? |
| 04:17.23 | Xapti | the unit |
| 04:17.25 | AndyBear225 | the unit ? |
| 04:17.30 | AndyBear225 | ah okay, let me check |
| 04:18.04 | DaveKapp | So I want to make a game where if a specific building for a player dies, that player loses the game. Should I be triggering this by an event, in a loop with an action, or some other way? |
| 04:18.21 | liq3 | hrm |
| 04:18.28 | liq3 | probably event "if unit dies" and pick that unit. |
| 04:18.36 | liq3 | erm, "unit dies" |
| 04:18.36 | DaveKapp | except I cannot pick that unit |
| 04:18.41 | liq3 | sure? |
| 04:18.44 | theDude | make that unit a variable |
| 04:18.47 | DaveKapp | well, i'm having trouble figuring out how |
| 04:18.49 | DaveKapp | yeah... |
| 04:18.54 | DaveKapp | I was thinking I'd have to make the unit a variable |
| 04:18.55 | theDude | turn vairable to true if building is alive |
| 04:19.00 | theDude | turn it to false when it dies |
| 04:19.06 | liq3 | davekapp: is the unit in the map at the start? |
| 04:19.15 | theDude | thats how i did it :P |
| 04:19.19 | theDude | making me some ling blood |
| 04:19.33 | DaveKapp | yes liq3 |
| 04:19.38 | DaveKapp | lol me too dude |
| 04:19.41 | DaveKapp | good practice |
| 04:19.50 | liq3 | DaveKap: then you can click the "any unit" thing and click the value bit, and pick it. :P |
| 04:19.54 | AndyBear225 | Sweet, test, Thanks Xapti! |
| 04:19.57 | AndyBear225 | tested* |
| 04:20.04 | DaveKapp | er.. |
| 04:20.13 | theDude | word i might go all out on this tho, idk well see how it goes |
| 04:20.28 | DaveKapp | I can't just pick it though, is the thing |
| 04:20.34 | DaveKapp | I won't go all out |
| 04:20.35 | liq3 | dI can. :/ |
| 04:20.37 | DaveKapp | not makin heroes and whatnot |
| 04:20.41 | DaveKapp | oh |
| 04:20.44 | DaveKapp | this is an event right? |
| 04:20.48 | liq3 | yes. |
| 04:20.53 | Bifuu | remembers when mapster only had 2 maps |
| 04:20.59 | liq3 | Event "unit dies", set the only avlue in it to your unit. |
| 04:21.02 | DaveKapp | OH |
| 04:21.03 | theDude | ya i was thinking of setting up a start game menu |
| 04:21.04 | DaveKapp | that's why |
| 04:21.06 | DaveKapp | I got it now liq3 |
| 04:21.07 | picklefish | it is so hard to create a new spell... |
| 04:21.09 | theDude | to select if you wanted heros or not |
| 04:21.10 | DaveKapp | I went a little too deep |
| 04:21.11 | liq3 | :P |
| 04:21.14 | liq3 | xD |
| 04:21.19 | DaveKapp | I was choosing an index instead of a unit |
| 04:21.19 | DaveKapp | :| |
| 04:21.21 | liq3 | Then just make the guy lose or w/e. |
| 04:21.28 | liq3 | haha. |
| 04:21.45 | DaveKapp | I dunno though |
| 04:21.50 | DaveKapp | I was kinda hoping I could do this more OO-like |
| 04:21.56 | Cerebral_ | Anyone know of a m3 export plugin for 3Dsmax yet? |
| 04:22.01 | DaveKapp | Like if Player X's cannon died, Player X lost |
| 04:22.09 | DaveKapp | hmmmm |
| 04:22.09 | liq3 | you can. |
| 04:22.14 | DaveKapp | oh triggering player |
| 04:22.16 | DaveKapp | no wait... |
| 04:22.17 | liq3 | :P |
| 04:22.25 | theDude | this is what i did |
| 04:22.31 | theDude | i made 2 vairbles |
| 04:22.35 | theDude | one for unit |
| 04:22.40 | theDude | and one for life |
| 04:22.42 | liq3 | Event unit dies any unit, condition - if unit type == cannon, trigger player loses. |
| 04:22.47 | theDude | true or valse |
| 04:22.55 | DaveKapp | ahhh |
| 04:22.56 | DaveKapp | that's it |
| 04:23.02 | theDude | unit -player life dies |
| 04:23.12 | theDude | actions game -end defeat |
| 04:23.16 | theDude | set variable to false |
| 04:23.22 | liq3 | theDude: can i see your map? I think you can do your triggers better. :p |
| 04:23.34 | theDude | ya |
| 04:23.48 | DaveKapp | ah |
| 04:23.51 | DaveKapp | hrmm |
| 04:24.05 | liq3 | These triggers are really robust imo. |
| 04:24.14 | liq3 | there's just soooooooooooooo much stuff it's easy to get lost. |
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| 04:25.24 | Motive | Look at the natives and you'll get even more lost. |
| 04:25.26 | Motive | :D |
| 04:25.44 | picklefish | liq3 |
| 04:25.48 | picklefish | I have the same problem |
| 04:25.52 | picklefish | information overloadd |
| 04:26.09 | liq3 | Motive: XD |
| 04:26.13 | DaveKapp | haha dammit |
| 04:26.21 | Motive | Ctrl + F and a general idea of what you're looking for usually does wonders. |
| 04:26.22 | DaveKapp | liq3 that's exactly what happens to me |
| 04:26.24 | DaveKapp | info overload |
| 04:26.37 | Kylegar | ok |
| 04:26.41 | DaveKapp | Where is the Action "player loses" |
| 04:26.45 | Kylegar | I think I got items that modify actors |
| 04:26.46 | Motive | There's a checkbox in the GUI to include the standard libraries in your find lookup |
| 04:27.07 | picklefish | Anyone know any tutorials for creating an ability from scratch? I want to create a missle that targets like the force field or psi storm |
| 04:27.29 | liq3 | picklefish: what, just does AoE damage? |
| 04:27.31 | AndyBear225 | How can I get a unit to collide with structures but not itself, cant see to get that working. |
| 04:27.44 | Motive | GameOver(player, type, showDialog, showScore); |
| 04:27.53 | Motive | in GUI it's End Game For Player |
| 04:28.01 | picklefish | liq3 yeah |
| 04:28.02 | JamesObscura | Can anyone link me to how to make a load screen? |
| 04:28.15 | peterpants | what is full match in animation properties |
| 04:28.37 | DaveKapp | ahh thank you Mojache |
| 04:28.38 | DaveKapp | er |
| 04:28.39 | DaveKapp | Motive |
| 04:28.40 | DaveKapp | lol |
| 04:28.51 | Motive | Yeah it was under Game. Would've expected it to be under player. |
| 04:28.54 | DaveKapp | UGH |
| 04:28.55 | Motive | Threw me a bit off. :P |
| 04:28.56 | DaveKapp | exactly |
| 04:29.05 | DaveKapp | also it's not "loses" |
| 04:29.09 | DaveKapp | it's specifically "end game" :P |
| 04:29.19 | DaveKapp | so hard to find stuff... |
| 04:29.21 | Motive | Yeah in WC3 it was Game -> Defeat Player or something. |
| 04:29.24 | DaveKapp | in any case, thanks a lot all :) |
| 04:29.25 | liq3 | i just typed "defeat" |
| 04:29.35 | liq3 | SC2 it was "End the game in defeat for player" |
| 04:29.38 | liq3 | SC1* |
| 04:29.44 | Motive | Psh. |
| 04:29.57 | Motive | I barely even consider SC1 a game that has "triggers" |
| 04:30.03 | liq3 | :p |
| 04:30.04 | Motive | They were so simple lol |
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| 04:30.10 | liq3 | it was the first RTS to have a map editor that did. |
| 04:30.15 | Jcuo | herro heroo |
| 04:30.21 | Motive | Herro. |
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| 04:32.10 | AndyBear225 | How can I get a unit to collide with structures but not itself, cant see to get that working. |
| 04:33.51 | warturtle | but not itself? |
| 04:34.00 | warturtle | you could try messing with the collision tags |
| 04:34.34 | warturtle | CUnit_Collide |
| 04:35.12 | picklefish | What is "Abil/##ID##"? |
| 04:35.18 | warturtle | You would have to do som wierd things I think |
| 04:35.34 | peterpants | has anyone got a control on playing unit animations with triggers |
| 04:35.58 | AndyBear225 | I got it, I removed all "Stats - Collide`and set the inner radius to .5 |
| 04:36.19 | AndyBear225 | apperently it still `collides`with buildings. |
| 04:36.33 | Jetset | I, for the life of me can't find where the definitions for doodads are in the data editor |
| 04:36.38 | warturtle | the CUnit_collide flags? |
| 04:36.44 | AndyBear225 | indeed. |
| 04:36.58 | Jetset | I wanted to edit the collision for the sandbag doodads |
| 04:36.59 | warturtle | yeah I think buildings use a different thing |
| 04:37.07 | warturtle | footprint or w.e. |
| 04:37.16 | AndyBear225 | but theres a structure Flag, so I wasn`t sure. |
| 04:37.27 | `228zip | Motive, what's your time zone ? You've been up for hours |
| 04:37.27 | AndyBear225 | but it works, thats all I care about. |
| 04:37.32 | Motive | EST. |
| 04:37.41 | warturtle | yeah |
| 04:37.42 | Jetset | it's only 12:36 here |
| 04:37.46 | Motive | Also I like to stay up and have nothing better to do. :) |
| 04:38.07 | FrozenFirebat | is there a way to enable an attack delay on an attack in some place other than on the weapon? |
| 04:38.28 | warturtle | you could use behaviors probably |
| 04:38.35 | Motive | I was up until like 4 am last night writing code for my SC2 library. :) |
| 04:38.36 | warturtle | and have the behaviors enable/disable attack ability |
| 04:39.02 | `228zip | Oh. It's 6:38AM. I've been up for about 18 hours and I still don't feel the need to sleep |
| 04:39.06 | peterpants | I dont think the complete native list on sc2mapster is correct because there are no animation functions |
| 04:39.12 | `228zip | Problem. |
| 04:39.18 | Motive | Haha, I could barely get up this morning >< |
| 04:39.18 | warturtle | peterpants |
| 04:39.23 | AndyBear225 | I`ve been up for 30+ hours. Im addicted to GE. |
| 04:39.24 | warturtle | you can trigger animations with effects |
| 04:39.29 | warturtle | or behaviors |
| 04:39.30 | Motive | @peterpants: there are animation functions |
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| 04:39.31 | payne | hai nubs! =D |
| 04:39.34 | Motive | they're under actors |
| 04:39.40 | `228zip | You're the noob, payne. |
| 04:39.41 | Motive | you send the actors an actormessage |
| 04:39.43 | `228zip | ! |
| 04:39.45 | peterpants | playanimation is not on the natives |
| 04:39.51 | payne | hey 228, my prefered uber noob! =D |
| 04:39.54 | Motive | maybe that's deprecated. /shrug |
| 04:39.56 | `228zip | ='( |
| 04:39.59 | payne | D: |
| 04:40.00 | payne | </3 |
| 04:40.06 | peterpants | hmm ok so how would i play an animation on a unit |
| 04:40.07 | Motive | from what I understand the ones on the site were extracted from the exe itself. |
| 04:40.17 | `228zip | I'm even a french noob. Isn't that the very definition of a noobish noob ? |
| 04:40.20 | payne | joining staredit.net => non-nubness, =) |
| 04:40.28 | warturtle | Peterpants I would use dummy effects |
| 04:40.31 | warturtle | :P |
| 04:40.36 | `228zip | sc2galaxy.net is all I need x) |
| 04:40.40 | payne | tu préfères sérieusement SC2M à SEN ? |
| 04:40.44 | peterpants | okay and then i can add/remove those effects? |
| 04:40.46 | Motive | Take a look at Anim Play |
| 04:40.48 | Motive | it's not a native. |
| 04:40.54 | Motive | it's in the trigger editor in LibNtve. |
| 04:41.09 | warturtle | In the actor sections you can set the animations /length/duration/everything based on effects triggering |
| 04:41.12 | Motive | libNtve_gf_MakeMsgAnimPlay() I think |
| 04:41.13 | peterpants | yea that's the one i use but it's fidgety and the animation stops if the unit moves or anything |
| 04:41.21 | Motive | Yeah that's how it was in WC3, too. |
| 04:41.22 | `228zip | mapster has people. staredit has people that have been using the SC1 editor for ten years |
| 04:41.24 | warturtle | and blending |
| 04:41.25 | Motive | You should disable the unit's movement. |
| 04:41.27 | DaveKapp | hey theDude |
| 04:41.28 | `228zip | transitionning over to SC2 |
| 04:41.32 | DaveKapp | is your map working? |
| 04:41.51 | Motive | sec I'll find you code to disable movement :P |
| 04:41.58 | peterpants | but then he cant function |
| 04:42.00 | DaveKapp | wants to try out his ling blood map online |
| 04:42.02 | peterpants | you mean pauseunit? |
| 04:42.07 | Motive | You don't have to pause |
| 04:42.07 | Motive | no |
| 04:42.13 | Motive | you can just disable movement and still have it able to attack/whatnot |
| 04:42.31 | Motive | UnitSetState( unit, c_unitStateMoveSuppressed, true ); |
| 04:42.37 | warturtle | are there any other IRC chats for sc2 mapping? |
| 04:42.39 | `228zip | Anyone doing a footman frenzy remake on SC2 ? |
| 04:42.42 | payne | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO2kZ6e9JUI&feature=player_embedded LOL TETRIS ! |
| 04:42.44 | warturtle | or is this the definitive one? |
| 04:42.45 | peterpants | so theres no way to just say play x animation for the next 5 seconds no matter what |
| 04:42.49 | `228zip | warturtle: I got a french one if you want |
| 04:42.53 | warturtle | lol nothx :P |
| 04:42.55 | Motive | Nope, it wouldn't make sense to have that available. |
| 04:43.06 | Motive | What would happen if the unit had to attack? |
| 04:43.16 | peterpants | it would attack while playing it's forced animation |
| 04:43.22 | Motive | But then it'd look wrong :P |
| 04:43.25 | warturtle | you can do that I think |
| 04:43.26 | peterpants | <shrug> |
| 04:43.29 | Motive | There's another way you can do it |
| 04:43.34 | Motive | if you only want a unit to look a certain way. |
| 04:43.42 | Motive | You can start the animation then set the animation speed to 0%. |
| 04:43.43 | Kylegar | asdffff |
| 04:43.47 | Motive | That'll lock the animation for sure. :P |
| 04:43.53 | Kylegar | how do I force the marine model to use his shield? |
| 04:43.55 | peterpants | tried that but then he resets if he moevs or w/e |
| 04:43.58 | Xapti | i don't think that tetris video was a cutom map |
| 04:44.04 | peterpants | or even fidgets |
| 04:44.07 | Motive | Yeah, unfortunately you can't lock an animation state or whatnot. |
| 04:44.20 | Xapti | i think it was just a lot of spare time making custom animation |
| 04:44.22 | peterpants | ya |
| 04:44.34 | Motive | Actually, peter |
| 04:44.39 | Motive | Tried AnimSetPaused? |
| 04:44.49 | Kylegar | got it |
| 04:44.51 | peterpants | is that a customscript |
| 04:44.59 | peterpants | take unit and boolean i assume |
| 04:45.00 | Motive | It's libNtve_gf_AnimSetPaused |
| 04:45.06 | Motive | builds an actormsg |
| 04:45.08 | Motive | Constructs and returns an AnimPlayPaused message. This is used to pause or unpause all animations for a model. It will only work on actors with models that have animations. |
| 04:45.15 | Motive | It says it pauses "all animations" |
| 04:45.17 | Motive | so that might work for you. |
| 04:45.24 | peterpants | where'd you find that |
| 04:45.36 | Motive | Actor -> Message Constructors |
| 04:45.43 | Motive | in GUI |
| 04:46.37 | peterpants | ah interesting.. |
| 04:46.44 | peterpants | let me play w /that |
| 04:46.46 | peterpants | thx |
| 04:46.53 | warturtle | you can set terms to all the animations |
| 04:47.07 | warturtle | mm one sec |
| 04:47.08 | peterpants | i didnt;' even know this function exists |
| 04:47.19 | peterpants | i was looking under animation category |
| 04:47.32 | Motive | yeah, actors are what all the cool stuff is under :) |
| 04:48.46 | warturtle | you can use statusset animation playing |
| 04:48.49 | warturtle | and use that as a variable |
| 04:49.03 | warturtle | and "isstatus animation playing 1" |
| 04:49.09 | warturtle | as a validator before playing any animations |
| 04:49.25 | warturtle | so you can set it to never play any other animations while that one is playing |
| 04:49.35 | warturtle | and decrement it whenever you want |
| 04:49.41 | warturtle | so the other stuff works |
| 04:49.45 | Motive | Even better. :D |
| 04:50.07 | peterpants | ok let me see |
| 04:50.14 | Jcuo | Does anybody understand what the precursor does in the ability MULE Calldown |
| 04:50.15 | warturtle | just look in actors, Cactorbase_on_terms |
| 04:50.15 | Jcuo | ? |
| 04:50.23 | picklefish | does anyone know where the mana cost of an ability is? |
| 04:50.32 | Jcuo | and lol crap I screwed up my name |
| 04:50.33 | picklefish | I deleted the crap in the Cost+ field but that didn't help |
| 04:50.34 | warturtle | I think precursors just make it so nothing can move there |
| 04:50.43 | Jcuo | oh rlly? |
| 04:50.44 | Xapti | jcuo, random guess.. the droppod? |
| 04:50.44 | warturtle | until the ability finishes |
| 04:50.46 | Motive | well it's energy cost now, not mana. that might help. Lol |
| 04:51.08 | warturtle | I spent too long looking through all the animation stuff :/ |
| 04:51.19 | wacko | lol |
| 04:51.38 | warturtle | but I think I understand it now |
| 04:51.43 | warturtle | you can do a lot of stuff with it visually |
| 04:51.48 | warturtle | all the tints are handled there etc |
| 04:52.42 | wacko | yes |
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| 04:52.55 | Kylegar | someone wanna play a crappy hero defense? |
| 04:53.03 | warturtle | I still don't know how to handle attach points inside it |
| 04:53.14 | warturtle | but can just use the normal data to do that |
| 04:53.18 | warturtle | at least for missiles |
| 04:53.29 | `228zip | who said that he'd shoot twice anyone who would say that C and galaxy are the same ? |
| 04:53.58 | `228zip | Motive ? |
| 04:53.59 | peterpants | ok so i made a trigger and used libNtve_gf_SendActorMessageToUnit(UnitFromId(50), "AnimSetPaused Attack"); and it seemed to have no effect on the guy it was pointing at |
| 04:53.59 | wacko | it is the same LOL |
| 04:53.59 | peterpants | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.00 | wacko | hahaha |
| 04:54.08 | Motive | Don't look at me. :P |
| 04:54.28 | `228zip | I don't blame you =p |
| 04:54.43 | Motive | I've used C so there's no way I'd say they're the same. Lol |
| 04:54.46 | warturtle | peterpants why not use data? |
| 04:54.49 | peterpants | not really sure what the attack is but it made me put it in there |
| 04:54.53 | warturtle | instead of running it all through triggers |
| 04:54.55 | peterpants | how would i use data |
| 04:55.04 | warturtle | look in actors |
| 04:55.15 | warturtle | cActorbase_on_terms etc |
| 04:55.25 | wacko | it depends on what he is doing |
| 04:55.35 | picklefish | I can seriously not find energy cost ANYWHERE |
| 04:55.36 | wacko | I mean if he wants them to stop the attack animation based on a trigger |
| 04:55.39 | warturtle | well there is still a lot of functionality in there |
| 04:55.41 | wacko | then what he is doing is fine |
| 04:55.41 | picklefish | in my ability |
| 04:55.43 | wacko | yes |
| 04:55.50 | picklefish | do I need to edit the xml? |
| 04:55.52 | warturtle | and you can communicate to it using dummy effects or w.e. |
| 04:55.58 | warturtle | to trigger what you want |
| 04:56.44 | AndyBear225 | How do I add an upgrade to a unit via triggersÉ |
| 04:56.44 | peterpants | hm |
| 04:56.55 | warturtle | behavior, selections, abilities all can trigger animations |
| 04:57.08 | warturtle | or any visual things such as tinting what is selected w.e. |
| 04:57.33 | warturtle | so many events |
| 04:57.41 | zifoon | can u only revive a hero using Ability? |
| 04:57.58 | peterpants | okay so what would the effect be? apply behavior? or modify unit |
| 04:58.54 | warturtle | well what triggers the animation? |
| 04:59.00 | warturtle | or what do you want to trigger it |
| 04:59.12 | peterpants | pressing a key |
| 05:00.08 | picklefish | My map flickers at me constantly in editor |
| 05:00.11 | picklefish | any of you get that? |
| 05:00.14 | warturtle | okay have the key press trigger an ability on a unit, call the ability press 'c' |
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| 05:00.43 | warturtle | and effect.press'c'.start -> terms: at caster -> AnimPlay AttackLeft |
| 05:01.03 | Sapph | I just found lurker attack animations ;o |
| 05:01.09 | dorkass | is there a way to set the zoom height for all players or do i just need to set the map and unit heights to fit more shit on the screen? |
| 05:01.18 | warturtle | and you can have another effect.press'c'.start -> terms.at caster -> statusSet Animplaying 1 |
| 05:01.38 | warturtle | and have that be a term on all other animations |
| 05:01.46 | warturtle | so they won't play until that attackleft is done |
| 05:01.56 | peterpants | hm |
| 05:02.08 | warturtle | or so, a missing step in setting animplaying to 0 |
| 05:02.10 | warturtle | but that's the gist |
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| 05:03.00 | warturtle | http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4347/exampleanimation.jpg |
| 05:03.18 | warturtle | heres a picture of the actor "script gui" |
| 05:03.30 | peterpants | yea actor events scare me |
| 05:03.31 | HyBReD | hm |
| 05:03.32 | peterpants | lol |
| 05:03.38 | HyBReD | anyway to convert a point to text? |
| 05:03.40 | wacko | they are not that bad |
| 05:03.42 | warturtle | there are just like triggers |
| 05:03.47 | warturtle | but a little more limited |
| 05:03.55 | warturtle | 1 action per event :( |
| 05:04.27 | peterpants | so hmm |
| 05:04.34 | peterpants | under actor events i could say |
| 05:04.37 | peterpants | if the unit gets behavior |
| 05:04.37 | warturtle | and It's harder to tell how some of the functions work :( |
| 05:04.39 | peterpants | then do all that stuff |
| 05:04.47 | warturtle | yeah |
| 05:04.50 | peterpants | i dont really wanna issue an order to cast an ability |
| 05:04.58 | Barter | HyBReD: hmm, covert real to text for X and Y? |
| 05:05.21 | warturtle | basically just communicate the keypress somehow to the actor events system |
| 05:05.23 | HyBReD | nevermind, not important |
| 05:05.30 | HyBReD | trying tof igure out how to grab the target point |
| 05:05.42 | HyBReD | for a aoe type ability |
| 05:06.02 | warturtle | and if the keypress does trigger an ability, you can just use that t |
| 05:06.08 | warturtle | to trigger the animation/actor effects |
| 05:07.14 | warturtle | GE is really simple compared to the subset sum problem :P |
| 05:08.08 | Sapph | need to figure out how to put this lurker attack model to use |
| 05:08.21 | Kylegar | who wants to try a custom map multiplayer? |
| 05:08.24 | Kylegar | i need 4 people |
| 05:09.00 | Crazafied | Why when i use Player Group - Pick each player in (Active Players) and do (Actions) i get an array overflow when their is only one active player? |
| 05:09.43 | peterpants | warturtle what is the status set number for animation playing |
| 05:10.12 | dorkass | anyone know a way to raise the max camera height for all players, or should i just raise the map height? |
| 05:10.18 | warturtle | just seems like a variable of type int you can change in the actor events portion |
| 05:10.19 | peterpants | Animplaying = sub name and value = 1? |
| 05:10.26 | warturtle | no |
| 05:10.29 | warturtle | it would be something you create |
| 05:10.38 | warturtle | http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4347/exampleanimation.jpg |
| 05:10.48 | warturtle | see the "event" actorcreation |
| 05:11.00 | peterpants | yea |
| 05:11.02 | warturtle | it creates the variable, and the rest increment/decrement it |
| 05:11.09 | Kylegar | woh, too hard |
| 05:11.14 | peterpants | oh man |
| 05:11.22 | peterpants | so then i'll have to go change every other actor variable |
| 05:11.33 | peterpants | so that it doesn't play if that other status is going off? |
| 05:11.41 | peterpants | actor event* |
| 05:11.43 | warturtle | the paper with the green arrow are terms |
| 05:11.53 | peterpants | yea gotcha |
| 05:11.54 | warturtle | just add terms to all other animations checking that status |
| 05:11.56 | peterpants | man that's a lot of work |
| 05:12.10 | warturtle | not really |
| 05:12.21 | warturtle | there arent that many animations on a unit |
| 05:12.24 | peterpants | well i mean if you had to do it for 40 different units it would be |
| 05:12.55 | peterpants | they should have a lock a nimation trigger or something |
| 05:13.02 | peterpants | but ya i dont really see any other way to do it |
| 05:13.20 | warturtle | I'm sure there is.. |
| 05:13.32 | warturtle | you could set the actor to not show |
| 05:13.39 | warturtle | and create another one temporarily |
| 05:13.45 | warturtle | then show it when duration is over |
| 05:14.23 | `228zip | Motive, do you use a mpq editor to insert the custom map script ? |
| 05:14.23 | warturtle | that would save some time probably |
| 05:14.30 | Motive | Nope |
| 05:14.32 | Xapti | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.33 | Xapti | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.34 | Motive | I couldn't get MPQ editors to work. Haha |
| 05:14.39 | Xapti | why doesn't this follow my unit |
| 05:14.41 | Motive | They wouldn't open the right files correctly. |
| 05:14.43 | Xapti | when game initializes |
| 05:14.47 | Motive | I just the built in SC2 Import Manager |
| 05:14.48 | Crazafied | When useing Player Group - Pick each player in (Active Players) and do (Actions) and a computer as player 15 i get an array overflow anyone know if this a bug or am i doing something wrong? |
| 05:15.00 | Motive | Import my Cortex folder, then import the MapScript.galaxy as "MapScripty.galaxy" |
| 05:15.00 | Xapti | it only works if i hit a hotkey that runs the follow action after |
| 05:15.06 | Motive | then I rename MapScripty.galaxy to MapScript.galaxy, and save. |
| 05:15.14 | `228zip | Motive it doesn't seem to see my galaxy files |
| 05:15.15 | Motive | God I hope they never fix that bug. :) |
| 05:15.21 | Motive | What do you mean? |
| 05:15.28 | Motive | Oh the import manager is a bit weird. |
| 05:15.33 | Motive | You have to save after importing the Galaxy files |
| 05:15.36 | Motive | for them to actually "exist" |
| 05:15.58 | `228zip | I must be clicking the wrong button then |
| 05:16.01 | HyBReD | has anyone figured out a more effcient way of grabbing a group of units in an area and adding them all into a unit group without having the loop |
| 05:16.04 | HyBReD | to loop* |
| 05:16.08 | `228zip | because I can't add them in the first place |
| 05:16.23 | Motive | If you can point me in the direction of a nice screen capture program I'll make a video. |
| 05:16.34 | Motive | Has to be really lightweight though. Virtualization. :( |
| 05:17.25 | `228zip | well, what is the button to import ? isn't it the leftmost one ? |
| 05:17.37 | Motive | F9 opens the import manager |
| 05:17.44 | Motive | then just right-click in the Document Files listing |
| 05:17.49 | `228zip | Oh indeed |
| 05:17.51 | Motive | choose the Import Files... thingy |
| 05:19.25 | picklefish | Does anyone know what strings like "Abil/ANYTHING" mean? |
| 05:19.32 | picklefish | "Abil/Psi Storm" |
| 05:19.37 | warturtle | hybred since unit group only supports adding one at a time wouldnt you have to? |
| 05:19.45 | Motive | I think that's the internal name for the ability. |
| 05:20.00 | HyBReD | yea i know, its just really annoying |
| 05:20.10 | HyBReD | i wish For Each Unit in Unit Group wasnt annoying |
| 05:20.12 | picklefish | Motive: hmmm... |
| 05:20.13 | Motive | Make a function for it then, HyBReD. |
| 05:20.14 | `228zip | Erm |
| 05:20.19 | Motive | Simplify your life :P |
| 05:20.29 | `228zip | The following files are using reserved filenames and cannot be imported. |
| 05:20.31 | Motive | Yeah |
| 05:20.37 | Motive | rename the reserved MapScript.galaxy to something like |
| 05:20.39 | Motive | Blah.galaxy |
| 05:20.40 | Motive | then import it |
| 05:20.44 | Motive | then use the rename feature in the importer |
| 05:20.48 | Motive | to rename it to MapScript.galaxy |
| 05:20.48 | `228zip | and rename it once it's in |
| 05:20.49 | `228zip | I see |
| 05:20.50 | Motive | yup |
| 05:20.52 | Motive | workaround ftw. |
| 05:20.56 | Motive | if they fix that we're fucked though. |
| 05:21.00 | Motive | :P |
| 05:21.24 | `228zip | They won't |
| 05:21.34 | Motive | I dunno. The devs are watching! :O |
| 05:21.47 | `228zip | Unless it allows us to install viruses on other people's harddrive |
| 05:21.53 | Motive | Haha yeah. |
| 05:21.56 | Motive | Poor H2I from WC3. |
| 05:22.03 | Motive | Return bug fix owned like half the maps. Lol |
| 05:24.04 | `228zip | ='( |
| 05:24.18 | `228zip | Obviously it was the good maps |
| 05:24.27 | Motive | Well the really good maps just updated themselves. |
| 05:24.40 | Motive | But the old ones that had their maintainers quit were basically left to die. |
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| 05:27.41 | Motive | Sadly DotA survived to continue to crush all competition. :( |
| 05:28.11 | davidcramer | ya fucking dota |
| 05:28.13 | davidcramer | ruined my td fun |
| 05:28.20 | davidcramer | i think i actually prefer defense maps over tds |
| 05:28.27 | davidcramer | i might have to whip up wc3 on my laptop just so i can play |
| 05:28.33 | tritan` | is it possible to incorporate more than one terrain tileset into your map? |
| 05:28.36 | Motive | Well, tbh, it was never really DotA's fault. It was just people were never willing to try new maps. |
| 05:28.39 | davidcramer | e.g. vampirism, city def, tree tag, those are all pretty fun |
| 05:28.50 | davidcramer | i remember there was a time when i was hardcore into footies too |
| 05:29.09 | tritan` | like i want to have a jungle with a volcano area... i want to use more than just jungle tileset |
| 05:29.18 | davidcramer | tritan`: ya mix and match |
| 05:29.20 | davidcramer | i believe you can |
| 05:29.37 | davidcramer | you are limited to N tiles I think (or at least im pretty sure you were in wc3) but you could choose what tiles those were |
| 05:29.59 | peterpants | warturtle i dont see where the walk animation for a unit is in actor events |
| 05:31.07 | `228zip | Damn it |
| 05:31.11 | `228zip | Syntax error |
| 05:31.16 | `228zip | And I don't know where |
| 05:31.28 | `228zip | How can I make the compile thingie check my code ? |
| 05:31.29 | peterpants | i like ages of myths in wc3 |
| 05:31.37 | Motive | Uh, it depends how you imported it. |
| 05:31.40 | `228zip | Age of myths was awesome.. until it died |
| 05:31.42 | Motive | Is your code primarily in MapScript.galaxy or another file? |
| 05:32.02 | `228zip | Other fileS |
| 05:32.04 | Motive | Ok good |
| 05:32.06 | Gugarion | Hello All - very new here + to SC map editing - Any tutorials you can point me at to get started? |
| 05:32.13 | davidcramer | lots, check the site |
| 05:32.14 | Motive | open the Script Editor (this will overwrite your MapScript.galaxy again) |
| 05:32.16 | Motive | and hit the compile button |
| 05:32.21 | Gugarion | the mapster site? |
| 05:32.24 | Motive | actually, no, sorry forgot a step |
| 05:32.31 | `228zip | x) |
| 05:32.32 | Motive | open the Script Editor and then edit the MapScript.galaxy in there |
| 05:32.35 | Motive | to include your script file |
| 05:32.36 | Motive | thten compile test :P |
| 05:32.50 | `228zip | so |
| 05:32.54 | `228zip | ctrl + F11 |
| 05:33.00 | `228zip | then Ctrl + F12 ? |
| 05:33.04 | Motive | Nope |
| 05:33.06 | Motive | Ctrl + F11 |
| 05:33.08 | Motive | edit the file that pops up |
| 05:33.13 | Motive | to have include "YourFile.galaxy" |
| 05:33.21 | `228zip | oh |
| 05:33.23 | Motive | then compile it using the button in that window |
| 05:33.46 | Motive | Hopefully someone will write a nice command-line syntax checker soon |
| 05:33.53 | Motive | save me the trouble of replacing so many files so often :( |
| 05:34.03 | `228zip | =) |
| 05:34.04 | `228zip | const playergroup allPlayers = PlayerGroupAll(); |
| 05:34.13 | `228zip | can't have constant playergroups ? |
| 05:34.22 | Motive | whats the error it gives? |
| 05:34.25 | Motive | I'm sure you can. |
| 05:34.28 | `228zip | syntax error is what's reported |
| 05:34.41 | Motive | Where is that code? |
| 05:34.50 | `228zip | included file |
| 05:34.57 | Motive | I mean like is it in a method or what? |
| 05:35.13 | davidcramer | Gugarion: any of the map sites will have some :) |
| 05:35.30 | Motive | It's C-style so remember all of your variable definitions have ot be at the top of the functions. |
| 05:35.34 | Motive | Before any code is run. |
| 05:35.47 | Gugarion | Thanks David :) study time! |
| 05:35.54 | `228zip | include "TriggerLibs/NativeLib" include "GeneralVar.galaxy" include "CameraSyst.galaxy" include "MovementSyst.galaxy" include "CustomUI.galaxy" include "GlobalInit.galaxy" |
| 05:35.56 | Grum | you can just hate that Motive :D |
| 05:36.00 | `228zip | it's in GeneralVar |
| 05:36.06 | `228zip | which is 4 lines of var |
| 05:36.25 | Motive | If I had to guess off the top of my head |
| 05:36.25 | dorkass | dude, is there a way to select a unit on the unit layer, and change the owner of that unit? |
| 05:36.26 | `228zip | This is a global |
| 05:36.41 | `228zip | double click |
| 05:36.41 | dorkass | i fuckin made all resources owned by player 1, and like... wtf there's no obvious way to change them to nuetral |
| 05:36.44 | Motive | I'd say that PlayerGroupAll() returns a player group that doesn't exist when the triggers are compiled away. |
| 05:37.02 | dorkass | ah shit |
| 05:37.06 | Motive | in any having a const to replace PlayerGroupAll() is just silly anyways. |
| 05:37.08 | Motive | :P |
| 05:37.15 | `228zip | indeed =p |
| 05:37.28 | `228zip | but it's just |
| 05:37.36 | HyBReD | hm |
| 05:37.38 | HyBReD | HM |
| 05:37.50 | `228zip | I'm not going to create a playergroup each time am I ? |
| 05:37.55 | HyBReD | how to make a Unit face AWAY from a point |
| 05:38.00 | peterpants | anyone have any ideas on how to freeze a unit's animation or play only a certain animation over and over regardless of moving/attacking/etc. |
| 05:38.06 | `228zip | UnitSetFacing hybred |
| 05:38.08 | HyBReD | i can make a unit face a point, but how to make them face away... |
| 05:38.11 | HyBReD | yes |
| 05:38.13 | HyBReD | but face away |
| 05:38.14 | Motive | Like I said, if I had to guess i'd say PlayerGroupAll() can't be run before Map Initialization (like it would be if you're putting it outside a function) because there aren't any players before then. |
| 05:38.16 | `228zip | +180° |
| 05:38.21 | HyBReD | hm |
| 05:38.24 | HyBReD | DONT SADD ME |
| 05:38.25 | HyBReD | SASS |
| 05:38.30 | HyBReD | :D |
| 05:38.54 | `228zip | Motive: Doesn't hurt to try |
| 05:38.56 | BlueGhostie | anyone here know how to edit the tech tree help menu? (f12 in game i thinkg) |
| 05:39.00 | Motive | clearly it does. haha |
| 05:39.01 | BlueGhostie | to display other things |
| 05:39.25 | `228zip | Also the MapScript.galaxy file has yet to change |
| 05:39.41 | Motive | /shrug. It resets every time I open that damn Script Editor. |
| 05:39.44 | dorkass | holy shit there must be a way to change the ownership of multiple selected units |
| 05:39.55 | Motive | There is, dorkass. :D |
| 05:40.05 | BlueGhostie | hey, no need to call him names |
| 05:40.08 | dorkass | how do you bring up the object editor without double clicking? |
| 05:40.11 | BlueGhostie | :P |
| 05:40.11 | dorkass | on a single unit |
| 05:40.20 | Motive | haha :P |
| 05:40.27 | HyBReD | `228zip Unit - Make (Picked unit) face (TargetPoint facing 180.0 degrees) over 0.0 seconds |
| 05:40.34 | HyBReD | you cant do a math on a point |
| 05:40.41 | Motive | I have no idea about the object editor but just throw your current selection into a unitgroup and then iterate over it. |
| 05:40.42 | `228zip | What the hell ? |
| 05:40.42 | HyBReD | and converting it to XY wouldnt work i dont think? |
| 05:41.01 | dorkass | dude no, im doing this in the editor, i dont want to change all minerals to owned by nuetral with a trigger.. |
| 05:41.09 | Motive | Oh! Lol |
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| 05:41.10 | dorkass | i made all resources owned by player 1 by accident |
| 05:41.11 | Iggyhopper | hi |
| 05:41.14 | Grum | HyBReD: euuh i assume a point is a '2dPoint' strange that it isnt |
| 05:41.19 | Iggyhopper | arg |
| 05:41.24 | Iggyhopper | okay gtg to bed |
| 05:41.29 | `228zip | You make it face a precise angle |
| 05:41.31 | dorkass | and it's such a pretty layout i dont wanna have to redo it all |
| 05:41.36 | `228zip | and there you go |
| 05:41.48 | HyBReD | i need them to face away from the target point |
| 05:41.59 | HyBReD | i cant make it precise |
| 05:42.07 | HyBReD | as i wont know how they're oriented to the point |
| 05:42.19 | HyBReD | your face point +180 would work perfectly if you could do math on it |
| 05:42.19 | davidcramer | Anyone here watch Fringe? |
| 05:42.22 | dorkass | is there some hidden right click to get context menu setting in the editor..? |
| 05:42.25 | Motive | yes you can, Hybred. |
| 05:42.28 | Motive | I remember seeing a function |
| 05:42.34 | Motive | you can calculate the angle between two points |
| 05:42.37 | Motive | the unit's position and the point |
| 05:42.43 | Motive | then use that and some math on your own to figure out the new point to face |
| 05:43.17 | HyBReD | i never said it wasnt possible to do |
| 05:43.23 | HyBReD | i said you cant perform math on a point |
| 05:43.26 | Motive | ah |
| 05:43.32 | HyBReD | ideally |
| 05:43.40 | Motive | if anyone's curious the function is AngleBetweenPoints(p1, p2) |
| 05:43.43 | HyBReD | Make Unit Face TargetPoint +180 would be perfect |
| 05:44.02 | warturtle | does anyone know where movementupdates to animations are? |
| 05:44.11 | warturtle | its not inside the actual unit.. |
| 05:44.21 | picklefish | for some reason when I copy the missle fire effect it stops work... |
| 05:45.26 | Motive | Hmm.. actually I'm not sure if this would work but take a look at PointGetFacing(point) |
| 05:45.36 | Motive | apparently it returns an angle as well, of the point. o_O |
| 05:45.41 | Motive | I didn't know a point could face anything but apparently it can. |
| 05:45.54 | picklefish | missile* |
| 05:46.14 | Motive | Then add 180 to that and if necessary subtract 360 so it's within 0-360. |
| 05:46.30 | HyBReD | i figured it out |
| 05:46.39 | HyBReD | i gave up on doing it one line |
| 05:46.41 | HyBReD | did it in two instead |
| 05:46.46 | HyBReD | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.46 | HyBReD | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.53 | Motive | That works. :P |
| 05:47.08 | Motive | Simpler than doing math anyways. |
| 05:47.10 | Motive | I suck at geometry. |
| 05:47.14 | picklefish | Why would the animation stop working if I copy an effect? |
| 05:47.41 | dorkass | i got it btw |
| 05:48.00 | dorkass | if you want to edit the stuff for multiple placed units within the editor, you select them, then just hit enter, or go to edit - modify properties |
| 05:48.07 | dorkass | so you can bulk edit mine fields nad shit |
| 05:48.59 | `228zip | static const timer movSystTimer = TimerCreate(); |
| 05:49.06 | `228zip | Syntax error again |
| 05:49.30 | `228zip | I wouldn't be surprised if you can't create objects as constants |
| 05:49.32 | Motive | inside a function? |
| 05:49.40 | Motive | if so, static makes no sense. |
| 05:49.52 | `228zip | no, it's a global again |
| 05:50.20 | Xapti | there's no way to limit sight to a cone shape in front of unit (or something else) is ther |
| 05:50.24 | Bifuu | having a bad partner in 2s sucks |
| 05:50.26 | Bifuu | =/ |
| 05:50.27 | Xapti | probably pretty advanced |
| 05:50.43 | Xapti | bifuu i'll parntner you sometime if you need someone |
| 05:50.47 | Xapti | i'm on NA server |
| 05:50.54 | Sixen | `228zip, you ever get registered? |
| 05:51.01 | Motive | hmm, yeah, I don't think you can, zip. |
| 05:51.09 | Motive | I thought I had a few scattered around my code but I just looked and I don't. |
| 05:51.29 | Xapti | So I can't put a "select unit" and "center on selected unit" in the same trigger |
| 05:51.29 | `228zip | Sixen On what ? Mapster ? |
| 05:51.38 | Xapti | i need to put one delayed after the other |
| 05:51.39 | Xapti | kinda sucks |
| 05:51.42 | TrouT | why is my portrait on sc2mapster not green :(:( |
| 05:51.55 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 05:52.03 | `228zip | I do, I had a curse account actually |
| 05:52.18 | Motive | What does Status: Semi-normal on a file asset I have on SC2Mapster mean? |
| 05:52.25 | `228zip | I don't know what to post though |
| 05:52.32 | `228zip | Guess I should present my project |
| 05:52.45 | picklefish | w00 w00 |
| 05:52.57 | `228zip | Oh and is it possible to change the nickname of my curse account ? it's an old one |
| 05:53.00 | picklefish | Anyone know how you make a damage effect AoE? |
| 05:53.12 | picklefish | nvm got it |
| 05:55.04 | Motive | Wooo. my iPod's OS crashed. |
| 05:55.08 | Motive | haven't seen that happen before. |
| 05:56.11 | `228zip | What the hell ?! |
| 05:56.26 | Sixen | 228zip, you'll have to bug ckknight about that. |
| 05:56.26 | `228zip | I got a syntax error |
| 05:56.28 | `228zip | on include "TriggerLibs/natives" |
| 05:56.34 | Sixen | natives.galaxy |
| 05:56.35 | Genopath | has anyone figured out how to disable music? |
| 05:56.44 | Sixen | include "TriggerLibs/natives.galaxy" |
| 05:56.51 | `228zip | Sixen: That's always how it's appeared to me |
| 05:56.52 | Sixen | CTRL+M, Geno? |
| 05:56.55 | `228zip | without the galaxy |
| 05:56.56 | Genopath | rofl sixen |
| 05:57.00 | Genopath | trigger wise |
| 05:57.01 | Motive | that usually happens when either a) the file doesn't end on a newline or b) there's a compile error in the included file |
| 05:57.04 | Sixen | :P |
| 05:57.12 | Motive | I'm guessing you just have a horrible typo in the beginning of the file. lol |
| 05:57.17 | Sixen | Yeah.. |
| 05:57.18 | `228zip | I hope |
| 05:57.24 | Xapti | how do i prevent the user from stopping following a unit |
| 05:57.33 | Xapti | if they press ctrl+f it will stop camera follow |
| 05:57.37 | Xapti | even if the camera is locked |
| 05:57.40 | `228zip | oh yeah, went too quick on the copy/paste |
| 05:57.46 | `228zip | had two include on one line |
| 05:57.50 | Motive | :P |
| 05:57.51 | Genopath | has anyone figure out how to lock the viwe of a player on particular part of the map? |
| 05:57.52 | `228zip | the wtf effect did the rest |
| 05:58.02 | picklefish | genopath |
| 05:58.03 | Xapti | geno it's very easy |
| 05:58.07 | picklefish | there is an action called lock |
| 05:58.08 | Xapti | unless you mean |
| 05:58.12 | Xapti | to a large area |
| 05:58.22 | picklefish | the real problem is why mine stopped positioning to the correct target.... |
| 05:58.22 | Xapti | that is more than your screen full |
| 05:58.41 | picklefish | Xapti: is that possible? |
| 05:58.43 | Motive | programming in Galaxy is fun. it's like you're actually programming something real. |
| 05:58.48 | Sixen | yeah :P |
| 05:59.00 | peterpants | genopath stop soundtrack action |
| 05:59.04 | Xapti | to a large area? maybe with bounds |
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| 05:59.12 | `228zip | Motive: What do you mean ? |
| 05:59.14 | Xapti | but if it's just lock the camera, that's easy |
| 05:59.35 | Motive | It just feels "right." Like I'm actually programming. Cause I'm used to nothing but code from previous C++ projects. |
| 05:59.39 | Genopath | thanks peter |
| 05:59.50 | peterpants | anyone know how to freeze a units animation or play a certain animation over and over, regardless of what the unit does/moving/attack/etc. |
| 06:02.24 | picklefish | sigh it's not moving my camera when I do set default camera |
| 06:02.28 | picklefish | to position unit |
| 06:03.05 | picklefish | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.05 | picklefish | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.06 | picklefish | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.41 | Genopath | stop soundtrack doesnt work peterpants |
| 06:05.32 | peterpants | no? |
| 06:05.43 | HyBReD | what the fuck |
| 06:05.55 | HyBReD | they changed the unit custom value action |
| 06:06.00 | Genopath | fraid not |
| 06:06.04 | Genopath | tested like 5 times already |
| 06:06.05 | Motive | they did? |
| 06:06.06 | Genopath | with that one |
| 06:06.07 | Motive | how? |
| 06:06.07 | HyBReD | Set Units custom value INTEGER to REAL |
| 06:06.07 | Genopath | lol |
| 06:06.11 | HyBReD | wtf? |
| 06:06.19 | Motive | FixedToInt() ftw |
| 06:06.20 | Motive | :) |
| 06:06.36 | HyBReD | a units custom value was a way to cheese the Pick each unit and turn it into a loop |
| 06:06.42 | HyBReD | what the fuck.. :( |
| 06:06.50 | Motive | how does that change the functionality? |
| 06:06.58 | HyBReD | well maybe it doesnt |
| 06:06.58 | Motive | just cast the fixed to an int or the int to a fixed |
| 06:07.00 | HyBReD | i just dont understand it |
| 06:07.10 | Motive | it's for people that need to store a fixed in the custom value |
| 06:07.28 | HyBReD | still confused |
| 06:07.37 | Motive | well think about it |
| 06:07.47 | Motive | what if you wanted to store as a custom value, the unit's chance to miss, for an RPG or something? |
| 06:07.56 | Motive | that'd be a percent so you'd want fixed probably. |
| 06:08.05 | HyBReD | i wouldnt use a custom value |
| 06:08.08 | Motive | you can't store some things as an int, but ints can be stored as fixed. |
| 06:08.08 | HyBReD | but i see your point |
| 06:08.24 | Motive | I use the custom value field to store 'guids' for my units |
| 06:08.36 | Motive | I was a bit weirded out by it at first but I see why it was done |
| 06:09.04 | peterpants | genopath try stop channel - music |
| 06:09.10 | HyBReD | yea its very strange |
| 06:09.32 | Genopath | kk will do |
| 06:09.34 | Motive | speaking of which, has anyone found out just how high an int can go? |
| 06:09.42 | Motive | I've just been assuming 0xFFFFFFFF for now. |
| 06:09.49 | HyBReD | probably something like that |
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| 06:10.04 | HyBReD | not like the cap is anything to worry about |
| 06:10.17 | Motive | not for me atm, but it's good to know. |
| 06:10.25 | warturtle | Anyone find where the move animations are called? |
| 06:10.28 | warturtle | or played from |
| 06:11.00 | Motive | ah nevermind |
| 06:11.04 | Motive | it's a signed int it looks like |
| 06:11.26 | HyBReD | OHHHH motive |
| 06:11.27 | HyBReD | now i get it |
| 06:11.32 | HyBReD | they made custom values waaay better |
| 06:11.36 | Motive | :) |
| 06:11.38 | HyBReD | you can have as many values as you want |
| 06:11.46 | HyBReD | the Real is the number it pulls |
| 06:11.49 | HyBReD | thats pretty freakin cool.. |
| 06:11.51 | Motive | yeah max int is 0x7FFFFFFF |
| 06:12.17 | Motive | yup I thought so. :) |
| 06:12.41 | Genopath | nope doesnt work, peterpants =( |
| 06:12.48 | Motive | I'm looking forward to filling those custom values with tons of stuff soon :) |
| 06:12.55 | tritan` | how do i add pathing to the bridge doodad so units can walk over it ;/. |
| 06:13.02 | HyBReD | yea wow |
| 06:13.03 | HyBReD | thats awesome |
| 06:13.17 | peterpants | genopath no? :( it must be broken or somethin then maybe they'll fix it later |
| 06:13.25 | HyBReD | I remember i used to abuse WC3's StringToInteger function all the time |
| 06:13.26 | Genopath | hope so |
| 06:13.29 | HyBReD | so i could type out what things were |
| 06:13.30 | Genopath | nothign else i can do |
| 06:13.32 | HyBReD | and not have to write down numbers |
| 06:13.32 | Genopath | i dont think you can tritan` |
| 06:13.40 | Motive | that's what consts are for :P |
| 06:13.41 | HyBReD | completely retarded way of doing it, but it worked |
| 06:13.43 | peterpants | tritan i think a lot of ppl have tried that one and nobody knows |
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| 06:13.52 | HyBReD | yea true |
| 06:13.57 | Genopath | okay hows this |
| 06:13.59 | Genopath | this is easy |
| 06:14.06 | Genopath | i just too lazy to bother with cameras |
| 06:14.10 | Skizot | wtf |
| 06:14.14 | Skizot | how do i do a bridge? |
| 06:14.19 | Genopath | how do i set the player to view a particular spot of a map |
| 06:14.31 | Skizot | or reset water to default.. i changed some setting and they kill my frame rate |
| 06:14.40 | Genopath | no fancy stuff, just set it to view a region |
| 06:15.24 | Motive | oh my god! |
| 06:15.29 | Motive | int supports bitwise operations! |
| 06:15.35 | Motive | Didn't expect to see that. :D |
| 06:15.39 | Gralamin | Which bitwise? |
| 06:15.43 | Motive | basically everything |
| 06:15.44 | Motive | LOL |
| 06:15.44 | Gralamin | That could be very useful to me |
| 06:15.53 | Gralamin | Logical Shifts and Arithmatic shifts? |
| 06:16.03 | Motive | yup |
| 06:16.10 | Gralamin | And, or, xor and not, I assume... |
| 06:16.17 | Gralamin | That'll be helpful |
| 06:16.28 | Motive | Very. |
| 06:17.25 | warturtle | peter I still cant find where movement is done :/ |
| 06:17.25 | picklefish | sounds aren't working after I copied something... |
| 06:17.39 | warturtle | maybe it's built in or something |
| 06:17.48 | peterpants | ya i am stuck lol |
| 06:17.50 | Genopath | how do i set the camera to view a specific region of the map? |
| 06:18.03 | peterpants | i dont think you can freeze a unit's animations |
| 06:18.25 | warturtle | well I think the move command updates over the top of them or something.. |
| 06:18.36 | Sixen | Motive, you uploaded the "Library", but it's really a Map, right? |
| 06:18.48 | Motive | I uploaded a test map for the library and a zip containing the actual library |
| 06:19.06 | peterpants | are collision projectiles possible via data editor |
| 06:19.26 | warturtle | yes |
| 06:19.33 | warturtle | I have a demo map of it if you want to see |
| 06:19.37 | peterpants | sure |
| 06:19.41 | warturtle | you just add behaviors to the missiles |
| 06:19.44 | dorkass | libraries are just like, pre-loaded triggers and functions right? |
| 06:19.49 | Motive | Since most libraries are in GUI I figured I'd throw together a map since there's no documented way to handle all-Galaxy libraries. |
| 06:20.07 | Sixen | Ah, gotcha. |
| 06:20.22 | warturtle | http://www.filedropper.com/infestorball |
| 06:20.27 | warturtle | projectile collision with data |
| 06:20.28 | Sixen | But, it's just galaxy scripts, not a library, correct? |
| 06:20.31 | Sixen | Libraries are .SC2Lib |
| 06:20.37 | Motive | Yeah |
| 06:20.41 | Sixen | Kay, :) |
| 06:20.48 | warturtle | in the map I'm working on I have it doing slightly more complex stuff |
| 06:21.01 | dorkass | Skizot i dont think there's bridges in yet, since the terrain objects menu is empty on my end |
| 06:21.22 | DaveKapp | If I want all units under a region to attack-move to a point, does that require playing with "attack wave" stuff? |
| 06:21.36 | dorkass | you can do a pick each unit and do aciton |
| 06:21.39 | tritan` | i need to figure the attack-move thing out too |
| 06:21.47 | Motive | I still have to do a lot of work to extend the library and make it more customizeable. Atm it's more like a plugin. Lol |
| 06:21.48 | tritan` | ah ok |
| 06:21.56 | DaveKapp | a loop seems... unintuitive |
| 06:22.12 | Motive | Loop over it with a unitgroup |
| 06:22.19 | Motive | set the unitgroup to be all units in that region |
| 06:22.26 | Motive | AttackWave has to do with AI iirc. |
| 06:22.35 | warturtle | blah im stupid :P |
| 06:22.42 | warturtle | I got that animation you wanted working right peter |
| 06:23.21 | warturtle | just set the animplay blendout variable super high, and the duration however long (looping) etc |
| 06:24.20 | peterpants | hmm |
| 06:25.23 | warturtle | no need to mess with setting stuff or w.e |
| 06:28.18 | picklefish | FUCK this EDITOR |
| 06:28.29 | `228zip | YEAH |
| 06:28.42 | `228zip | STATIC AND TRIGGERCREATE DONT LIKE EACH OTHER |
| 06:28.45 | picklefish | fucking sound isn't working on my ability |
| 06:28.47 | `228zip | ='( |
| 06:29.00 | `228zip | Alright, so full bug description |
| 06:29.10 | `228zip | If you try to put the name of a static function |
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| 06:29.17 | `228zip | in the TriggerCreate string |
| 06:29.32 | `228zip | it won't be recognized and your trigger will end up empty |
| 06:29.38 | warturtle | picklefish.. |
| 06:29.40 | warturtle | mess with actors |
| 06:29.42 | Motive | Might not be a bug. |
| 06:29.42 | warturtle | it handles sounds |
| 06:29.52 | Motive | static means it's only accessible from the same file. |
| 06:29.56 | `228zip | Motive: I know, that's the worst part about it |
| 06:29.59 | warturtle | effect.abilityeffect.start -> play sound once or w.e. off the top of my head |
| 06:30.02 | Motive | TriggerCreate() sends the message back to the game core which has to access the method. |
| 06:30.03 | `228zip | It was in the same file |
| 06:30.13 | Motive | So it leaves the "file" scope and goes back to the game core |
| 06:30.13 | `228zip | Maybe it changes the name |
| 06:30.16 | Motive | and then returns to look for it. |
| 06:30.22 | Motive | I'd say it's working as intended. :/ |
| 06:30.27 | `228zip | Sad |
| 06:30.29 | Motive | Think of it like private, and the file is a class. |
| 06:30.46 | `228zip | I know I know |
| 06:31.02 | `228zip | But still, that's because of the way TriggerCreate works |
| 06:31.09 | warturtle | if only this editor supported infinite connections I would make an mmo |
| 06:31.12 | `228zip | Who had the bright idea to put strings in there |
| 06:31.18 | warturtle | :( |
| 06:31.25 | Motive | By the way has anyone tried making function pointers? |
| 06:31.43 | `228zip | Is there a function class ? |
| 06:31.44 | warturtle | poor second class functions :( |
| 06:31.46 | Motive | I mean like |
| 06:31.54 | warturtle | treated like garbage i |
| 06:31.54 | Motive | void* blah[1024]; |
| 06:32.04 | Motive | and then going blah[0] = &MyFunction; |
| 06:32.05 | warturtle | not even equal to variables |
| 06:32.24 | `228zip | Didn't try it myself, that's for sure |
| 06:32.43 | Motive | If that works i'll be impressed. :P |
| 06:32.56 | `228zip | Can you report that static thing onto mapster ? I'm going to do it on the french side |
| 06:32.56 | Motive | I'll like jump up and down and re-design my chat system. |
| 06:33.15 | Motive | Repost what? o_O |
| 06:33.21 | `228zip | Well |
| 06:33.30 | `228zip | I'll show you an exemple |
| 06:34.24 | `228zip | bool UpdateCameraOffset (bool testConds, bool runActions) { return true; } static void UpdateCameraOffset_Init () { TriggerCreate("UpdateCameraOffset"); } |
| 06:34.30 | `228zip | Right there |
| 06:34.39 | `228zip | if UpdateCameraOffset is static |
| 06:34.48 | `228zip | TriggerCreate can't find it |
| 06:34.57 | Motive | Yeah, that makes sense to me. I wouldn't classify it as a bug. |
| 06:35.09 | Motive | It'd be like trying to make a function callback to a private member inside another class. |
| 06:35.20 | Motive | You could probably make it happen with enough hacking, but it'd defeat the point of "private". |
| 06:37.03 | `228zip | But it's the same file =O |
| 06:37.06 | Motive | I mean strictly speaking it's still in the same file but |
| 06:37.15 | Motive | if you think about the broader implications and the way it's done, it makes sense that it doesn't. |
| 06:37.21 | `228zip | It does. |
| 06:37.32 | `228zip | Because TriggerCreate isn't "in the same file" I guess |
| 06:37.46 | Motive | Not because of that but because the Galaxy core is outside of the file. |
| 06:37.59 | `228zip | and that's where TriggerCreate acts ? |
| 06:38.03 | Motive | TriggerCreate() is creating a callback from the core to the script |
| 06:38.10 | Motive | and you can't have a callback to a private member. |
| 06:38.20 | Kylegar | yo, who is up for a game on a custom map? |
| 06:39.38 | `228zip | Motive: Logically. I just wish TriggerCreate functionned in a more normal way I guess. |
| 06:39.51 | Motive | It is normal. Except the string part. |
| 06:40.01 | Motive | I'd expect it to take a bool since all triggers return a bool. |
| 06:40.06 | Skizot | dammit |
| 06:40.13 | Motive | Well, a function pointer anyways. |
| 06:40.17 | Skizot | Unit Enters/Leaves Range Of Unit |
| 06:40.17 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.17 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.17 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.17 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.18 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.18 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.19 | Motive | But I don't think that works. |
| 06:40.21 | `228zip | haven't tried to return false yet ? |
| 06:40.26 | Skizot | why must this funtcion SUCK so hard |
| 06:40.26 | Motive | Nopr. Lol |
| 06:40.35 | Motive | I'm not brave enough. |
| 06:40.36 | `228zip | We're feared, that's all =p |
| 06:40.42 | `228zip | scared* |
| 06:40.55 | `228zip | And with a function that doesn't return a bool ? |
| 06:41.18 | Motive | All triggers return bools. :P |
| 06:41.29 | Motive | They all have the same return type and params |
| 06:41.37 | Motive | bool myTrigger(bool checkConds, bool runActions) |
| 06:41.44 | `228zip | Well, have you tried changing param and return type ? |
| 06:41.53 | Motive | Params? Yes, it didn't compile. |
| 06:41.55 | Motive | Return type? Nope. |
| 06:41.55 | `228zip | Does your computer die horribly again ? |
| 06:42.13 | Skizot | i need "any unit comes within 1.0 of any unit owned by player 15 (hostile)" |
| 06:42.23 | `228zip | Conditions! |
| 06:42.28 | `228zip | Oh wait |
| 06:42.41 | `228zip | You're doing a Run Kitty map Skizot, aren't you ? |
| 06:42.55 | Kylegar | who wants to play a custom map? |
| 06:43.05 | Kylegar | I kinda want to play one of the maps that I'm making |
| 06:43.11 | `228zip | Me. Problem is I can't. |
| 06:43.21 | Kylegar | why not? |
| 06:43.36 | `228zip | Too much to do just to get a map working online |
| 06:43.44 | Sixen | Nah, there's a tool on mapster todo it easy now |
| 06:43.45 | Sixen | :D |
| 06:43.55 | Kylegar | there is? |
| 06:43.58 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-custom-map-patcher/ |
| 06:44.13 | Motive | Do we know when normal custom game hosting is likely to come out? |
| 06:44.20 | Motive | I don't wanna' tinker with the patcher. Lol |
| 06:44.21 | Sixen | Sometime this week |
| 06:44.27 | Motive | Yeah, not worth using it for me then. |
| 06:44.28 | Motive | I can wait. |
| 06:44.29 | picklefish | I just desimated a cockroach |
| 06:44.31 | Sixen | Motive, all that does is replace the Lost Temple cache map |
| 06:44.34 | Motive | Just like I wait for the Mac client. Lol |
| 06:44.56 | Motive | I guess it's more useful for maps that are more multiplayer oriented or complete. |
| 06:44.58 | Skizot | can custom map edits use the player count of the edited map? |
| 06:44.58 | Kylegar | Sixen how do you know sometime this week? |
| 06:45.01 | Motive | I'm just still in the single-player testing phase. |
| 06:45.03 | Sixen | They said it. |
| 06:45.28 | Xapti | how do motion phases work in movers/ |
| 06:45.36 | Kylegar | source? |
| 06:45.38 | Kylegar | I'm curious |
| 06:45.50 | Sixen | There's a blue post somewhere on thegeneral forums |
| 06:46.17 | Sixen | It was made last week, saying that publishing will be in a patch next week (which is this week now) |
| 06:46.40 | Bifuu | kjhsahkjsdahkjsdalkj |
| 06:46.54 | Bifuu | I figured out the only possible way for me to win in 2v2s with my friend |
| 06:46.57 | Bifuu | Tell him to turtle |
| 06:47.00 | Bifuu | mass units |
| 06:47.03 | Bifuu | and give me control |
| 06:47.04 | Sixen | lol |
| 06:47.18 | Bifuu | 45 minute games, but we still win |
| 06:47.44 | Sixen | Poor bif :p |
| 06:47.55 | Bifuu | well |
| 06:47.58 | Bifuu | Imm not that great |
| 06:48.03 | Bifuu | 1v1 im maybe bronze |
| 06:48.09 | liq3 | >.> |
| 06:48.09 | Bifuu | 2v2 depending ive gotten up to silver |
| 06:48.15 | Bifuu | but this guy |
| 06:48.18 | Bifuu | i dont know |
| 06:48.26 | Sixen | I'm platinum. Pro. |
| 06:48.28 | Bifuu | clay league? |
| 06:48.29 | Xapti | i assume yo uwant to play with your friend right |
| 06:48.37 | Motive | I haven't played a single melee game. Do I win? :D |
| 06:48.37 | liq3 | lol clay. |
| 06:48.48 | Motive | I literally plan on buying SC2 just for custom games. |
| 06:48.57 | Bifuu | when i play with him i just choose random lol |
| 06:48.58 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:49.07 | Bifuu | might as well get some training with all races |
| 06:49.13 | liq3 | Random ftw. |
| 06:49.15 | Bifuu | when i play for real i go Terran |
| 06:49.17 | Xapti | yeah it's a good idea |
| 06:49.33 | liq3 | is a random player. :D |
| 06:49.40 | Bifuu | Sixen we need to do 2s one day so you can carry me |
| 06:49.43 | Bifuu | =P |
| 06:49.43 | Xapti | I am platinum, but I haven't really play at all since patch 9/10 |
| 06:49.49 | Sixen | <3 |
| 06:49.53 | liq3 | same |
| 06:49.56 | Sixen | That's usually how it goes, Bif |
| 06:49.58 | liq3 | trying to get used to these grid keys in 2s. |
| 06:50.02 | liq3 | before i go back to 1v1. |
| 06:50.02 | Bifuu | i mean |
| 06:50.09 | Bifuu | ill turtle mass units and give you control |
| 06:50.09 | Sixen | I've been Platinum in every reset except now. Too much Map Editor. |
| 06:50.17 | Sixen | Or you could just feed me |
| 06:50.17 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:50.27 | Bifuu | that too |
| 06:50.31 | liq3 | Actually, easiest way to win 2v2 is jsut mass aggression. |
| 06:50.35 | liq3 | It works up to about rank 30 plat. |
| 06:50.41 | Xapti | how do motion phases work in movers? |
| 06:50.53 | Xapti | what decides when the mover changes phase |
| 06:51.02 | Xapti | it's confusing to me |
| 06:51.04 | Vindicator | if anyone wants to play sometime and ur on US msg me, i'm Vindicator.dallas |
| 06:51.10 | Bifuu | i actually was probably about to hit gold or plat in 2v2 RT patch 8 |
| 06:51.21 | Bifuu | i was 3-1 in placements |
| 06:51.36 | Bifuu | sp [rolly gold |
| 06:51.42 | Bifuu | only lost to a cheeser =/ |
| 06:51.51 | Bifuu | fuckin proxy gateway my ass |
| 06:52.02 | liq3 | lol. |
| 06:52.09 | liq3 | last guy who tried proxy gateway on me. |
| 06:52.14 | liq3 | ended up getting owned. <3 |
| 06:52.27 | Bifuu | after that every time i played a toss i reaper rushed |
| 06:52.34 | liq3 | :/ |
| 06:52.37 | liq3 | lol. |
| 06:52.55 | Sixen | ;p |
| 06:53.05 | Kylegar | if anyone is interested in playing a custom map on bnet |
| 06:53.10 | Bifuu | but now people are getting smart and doing fast thingies-i-cant-remeber-their-names |
| 06:53.15 | Kylegar | with heroes |
| 06:53.17 | liq3 | stalkers? |
| 06:53.21 | Bifuu | thast it |
| 06:53.29 | Bifuu | i still call em Dragoons |
| 06:53.32 | Kylegar | add me, RoyAwesome.kylegar |
| 06:53.37 | Bifuu | and call Vikings Valkyries |
| 06:53.41 | Xapti | I want to play top-down fighters as multiplayer |
| 06:53.43 | Kylegar | Bifuu have you seen the Dragoon icons? |
| 06:53.48 | Kylegar | they are in the game files |
| 06:53.49 | Bifuu | nope |
| 06:53.52 | Xapti | what good multiplayer SC2 maps are there |
| 06:54.01 | liq3 | none? |
| 06:54.04 | Kylegar | none yet |
| 06:54.10 | Kylegar | i am doing the renaming trick |
| 06:54.12 | liq3 | i doubt anyone good ones will happen until we get map publishing. |
| 06:54.16 | Xapti | i'm sure there's some probably |
| 06:54.22 | Kylegar | because I actually want to play a sc2 custom |
| 06:54.26 | Xapti | well im ean like decent ones |
| 06:54.39 | Xapti | top-down figers shoudl be made to multi |
| 06:54.39 | liq3 | i'm doing a remake of hydralurk zone. |
| 06:54.44 | liq3 | which was just awesome in sc1. |
| 06:54.52 | liq3 | it's more or less done, I just need to test it in MP. :/ |
| 06:54.57 | DaveKapp | er ok |
| 06:54.58 | Xapti | steak racer should also be multiplayer |
| 06:55.00 | DaveKapp | I am still missing one step |
| 06:55.02 | Bifuu | i hope with publishing they include more shit in the editor =( |
| 06:55.06 | DaveKapp | the actual "attack move" trigger for units |
| 06:55.10 | Bifuu | i cant make any of my maps =( |
| 06:55.15 | liq3 | eh? |
| 06:55.22 | Skizot | dammmmit |
| 06:55.41 | liq3 | hrm, that's not a bad idea. |
| 06:55.44 | `228zip | Bifuu: You'd better have patience |
| 06:55.52 | Bifuu | im not patient! qq |
| 06:55.52 | warturtle | anyone know where the attach method patterns are found.. |
| 06:55.52 | DaveKapp | issue order |
| 06:55.54 | DaveKapp | i think is it |
| 06:55.58 | `228zip | Because I doubt they're adding anything before the expansion |
| 06:56.11 | Bifuu | you mean release right |
| 06:56.16 | liq3 | bifuu: you can't make any of your maps ? wut? |
| 06:56.29 | `228zip | bifuu: Yea, the expansion release |
| 06:56.36 | `228zip | I'm serious. |
| 06:57.04 | Bifuu | Im sure more will be added with campaign |
| 06:57.09 | Bifuu | at release |
| 06:57.10 | Bifuu | i mean |
| 06:57.14 | Bifuu | Not even a critter |
| 06:57.14 | Sixen | I wouldn't say that, zip :P |
| 06:57.21 | Bifuu | incomplete units/doodads |
| 06:57.23 | DaveKapp | ok wtf |
| 06:57.28 | DaveKapp | the attack move is missing |
| 06:57.35 | DaveKapp | they put a category in for it but it has no preset value |
| 06:57.46 | `228zip | Alright |
| 06:57.48 | `228zip | New models |
| 06:58.03 | `228zip | But the trigger editor ? |
| 06:58.28 | Bifuu | i dont need triggers updated |
| 06:58.37 | `228zip | You know what I mean |
| 06:58.38 | Bifuu | i mean it would be nice to add complete mouse support |
| 06:58.48 | Bifuu | i do know what you mean |
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| 06:59.05 | `228zip | "It would be nice" != "Blizzard is going to do it" |
| 06:59.16 | `228zip | Next expansion, maybe. |
| 06:59.17 | Bifuu | i just want the added content, more actors and doodads to use on my maps, the m3 converter so we can have custom models atleast |
| 06:59.22 | Motive | You know what I want to see out of the editor? |
| 06:59.27 | Motive | Easily editable terrain. |
| 06:59.29 | Motive | Pathing included. |
| 06:59.33 | Motive | Same thing for doodads. |
| 06:59.46 | Bifuu | whast so hard about it now O.o |
| 06:59.53 | Motive | Well you can't change pathing for starters. |
| 07:00.02 | Motive | And you have to screw with actors and stuff to do it. |
| 07:00.09 | Motive | But if it doesn't change pathing it's kind of useless for hte most part. |
| 07:00.09 | `228zip | Erm |
| 07:00.11 | `228zip | No ? |
| 07:00.16 | Motive | You don't? |
| 07:00.17 | `228zip | There is a layer |
| 07:00.23 | Motive | I was told you have to use uh... |
| 07:00.26 | `228zip | used to change pathing |
| 07:00.27 | Motive | Terrain Deformation actor |
| 07:00.34 | Motive | I mean in triggers. |
| 07:00.37 | Bifuu | OH |
| 07:00.39 | Bifuu | lol |
| 07:00.39 | `228zip | Oh |
| 07:00.49 | picklefish | is there a way to view console or something? |
| 07:01.02 | picklefish | I copied this abiltiy perfectly including the actors and the sound won't play |
| 07:01.05 | Bifuu | picklefish: Look in windows |
| 07:01.06 | picklefish | do I need to copy the sounds? |
| 07:01.15 | picklefish | mk |
| 07:01.15 | Bifuu | yea probably |
| 07:01.19 | `228zip | why won't this stupid car move ? |
| 07:01.24 | Bifuu | needs gas |
| 07:01.34 | `228zip | needs script! |
| 07:01.42 | `228zip | it moved fine with the old script |
| 07:01.50 | Motive | But yeah |
| 07:02.00 | Motive | give me editable terrain and pathing in triggers and I will love this game to death. |
| 07:02.28 | Motive | The nature of my end-game requires me to basically be able to do almost anything the editor can do except unit-editing in-game. |
| 07:02.43 | Motive | So the bar's fairly high. Lol |
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| 07:04.24 | Bifuu | You know what would be cool to add |
| 07:04.31 | Bifuu | ability to talk to an external Database |
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| 07:04.36 | Motive | That, too. |
| 07:04.37 | Motive | I'd love that. |
| 07:04.40 | Motive | OH! you know what else we need? |
| 07:04.49 | `228zip | Bifuu The data bank is supposed to be that |
| 07:04.52 | Motive | A way to read the player's name and his full Battle.net identifier. |
| 07:05.03 | picklefish | FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK |
| 07:05.04 | `228zip | with his portrait! |
| 07:05.10 | picklefish | Some how my sound got turned off in game |
| 07:05.13 | picklefish | not my music |
| 07:05.15 | picklefish | only my fucking sound |
| 07:05.19 | `228zip | HAHAHA |
| 07:05.21 | `228zip | Sorry |
| 07:05.22 | Bifuu | gj |
| 07:05.24 | picklefish | I've been trying to solve this for like over an hour |
| 07:05.34 | Motive | If you can read the full player name and identifier you can implement awesome stuff like banlists by map. |
| 07:05.34 | `228zip | The stupidest mistakes |
| 07:05.54 | `228zip | I dislike banlists |
| 07:06.00 | Motive | So do I but still. :P |
| 07:06.04 | Bifuu | i dont want banlists |
| 07:06.18 | Motive | I can think of other interesting uses, too. |
| 07:06.23 | `228zip | and I dislike SCRIPT NOT FUCNTIONNING |
| 07:06.25 | liq3 | I have learned something today. SC2 lags when you have 1000+ marines. |
| 07:06.26 | liq3 | o.o |
| 07:06.28 | Cerebral_ | Whats this about databank being an external database? |
| 07:06.49 | Cerebral_ | I haven't heard anything about that planned feature |
| 07:06.59 | `228zip | I here it can be transferred from map to map |
| 07:06.59 | Bifuu | liq3: i learned that a month ago when i had 2900 phoenixes |
| 07:07.00 | `228zip | hear* |
| 07:07.06 | liq3 | xD |
| 07:07.06 | Motive | Banks are storage between maps, yeah. |
| 07:07.12 | liq3 | bifuu: how did you do that? |
| 07:07.13 | Motive | But it's not external like, download from a webserver or something. |
| 07:07.18 | Cerebral_ | ah |
| 07:07.19 | `228zip | phoenixes ? they have crazy lightings and all! |
| 07:07.22 | Bifuu | liq3: xml edits |
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| 07:07.35 | Motive | It's like Game Cache from WC3 but you can actually use it. |
| 07:07.36 | `228zip | Motive: Well at least we have something |
| 07:07.36 | liq3 | xD |
| 07:07.39 | Bifuu | was testing to see the max unit count in SC2 |
| 07:07.39 | Motive | Psh. |
| 07:07.45 | Cerebral_ | Would be nice to have people download my mod, and I can make changes via a database. |
| 07:07.45 | Bifuu | (its ~2900) |
| 07:07.50 | DaveKapp | lol there is one? |
| 07:07.53 | Motive | We're still in the honeymoon phase. |
| 07:07.57 | Motive | Give us enough time and we'll be begging for more features |
| 07:07.58 | Bifuu | DaveKap: yea |
| 07:07.59 | Motive | and using workarounds. |
| 07:08.04 | `228zip | Motive: you can use it - for its intended purpose - |
| 07:08.17 | `228zip | Unlike the game cache |
| 07:08.25 | Bifuu | the thing with data banks tho |
| 07:08.36 | peterpants | what does outer point mean on an impact location? |
| 07:08.39 | Bifuu | if they are stored client side, people will find ways to edit them |
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| 07:08.45 | Motive | That, too. |
| 07:08.49 | Cerebral_ | Yeah |
| 07:08.53 | `228zip | Didn't think about that |
| 07:09.11 | Bifuu | why i want server support |
| 07:09.21 | Bifuu | which i mean |
| 07:09.21 | DaveKapp | ah man |
| 07:09.24 | DaveKapp | i gotta watch a camera tutorial |
| 07:09.27 | Motive | Not even server support. Maybe cloud support. |
| 07:09.28 | DaveKapp | so I can figure out how to zoom out |
| 07:09.30 | Motive | Because servers can go down. |
| 07:09.35 | Motive | If you can store data to Battle.net itself that would be ideal. |
| 07:09.48 | Bifuu | it could be done with another program that auto uploads the player's Bank and has it on server and before a game it compares banks |
| 07:09.52 | Motive | I don't want to play a map and have it end because AWfulMap.com can't be reached. |
| 07:10.19 | Motive | That's still susceptible to attack. |
| 07:10.31 | Motive | I can just make my hosts file put AwfulMap.com to 127.0.0.1 and do horrible things. :) |
| 07:10.33 | Bifuu | cloud support... then everyone will have to download everyone's information |
| 07:10.38 | Motive | well, not cloud. |
| 07:10.38 | BlueGhostie | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.42 | Motive | But like, battle.net stores the data. |
| 07:10.48 | Motive | Not map maker's servers. |
| 07:11.28 | Motive | They could even charge map makers for Battle.net storage. |
| 07:11.30 | Motive | More money for them. |
| 07:11.38 | Cube | i was talking with someone about this earlier |
| 07:11.56 | Cube | i think you might have to pay to host persistent content for multiplayer ranking things |
| 07:12.01 | Motive | I wouldn't mind paying $5/mo for access to store data on their secure servers. |
| 07:12.09 | liq3 | Hrm, I think I need a cap on how many units can spawn. o.o |
| 07:12.13 | Cube | because it seems like a security risk to let you host it on a private server |
| 07:12.15 | Motive | I hope they do offer something like that. |
| 07:12.18 | Motive | Yeah. |
| 07:12.31 | HyBReD | what are you guys talking about |
| 07:12.38 | Motive | And give me a way to get the full Battle.net identifier of a player |
| 07:12.44 | Motive | so I can see if it's me and go "OMG MOTIVE IS PLAYING THE MAP! :D" |
| 07:12.48 | Cube | yeah |
| 07:12.48 | Cube | i think they kind of have to |
| 07:13.17 | HyBReD | Just finished a new ability |
| 07:13.19 | Cube | yarr |
| 07:13.20 | HyBReD | :D |
| 07:13.30 | `228zip | Grr |
| 07:13.34 | `228zip | I hate galaxy |
| 07:13.35 | Cube | that would kick ass |
| 07:13.35 | Cube | you could attach stats to the players account |
| 07:13.38 | `228zip | Where are my call |
| 07:13.43 | `228zip | my set |
| 07:13.47 | Motive | Don't talk bad about Galaxy. :( |
| 07:13.49 | Motive | I love it. |
| 07:13.49 | `228zip | my endif ? |
| 07:13.53 | Cube | whatcha making? |
| 07:13.57 | `228zip | What are all these { and ; |
| 07:14.04 | Motive | LUA makes me puke. |
| 07:14.04 | `228zip | ='( |
| 07:14.17 | Motive | Real men use C++. |
| 07:14.27 | `228zip | Motive: Think worse; It begins with a J and ends with ASS |
| 07:14.32 | Motive | Ewwww JASS. |
| 07:14.34 | Motive | :P |
| 07:14.39 | `228zip | =p |
| 07:14.44 | Cube | haaha |
| 07:14.47 | Motive | JASS, the only language worse than LUA imo. |
| 07:14.58 | Motive | Except maybe Visual Basic. When your "set" is called "Dim" you know you're doing it wrong. |
| 07:15.02 | Cube | braces and semicolons are a part of life |
| 07:15.02 | Cube | pf real men use haskell |
| 07:15.03 | liq3 | JASS is a language? |
| 07:15.13 | `228zip | More or less. |
| 07:15.19 | `228zip | More less than more though. |
| 07:15.19 | Cube | or more recently F# |
| 07:15.34 | liq3 | http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 07:15.54 | Motive | Not gonna' lie, I use nano on my servers. |
| 07:15.59 | picklefish | Anyone able to get cursors working on abilities? like circular one for forcefield or something? |
| 07:15.59 | Motive | It's just simpler imo. |
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| 07:16.30 | liq3 | cursors? |
| 07:17.15 | Motive | xkcd forgot the most awesome way to write a file. |
| 07:17.24 | Motive | echo "WOOO" > blah.txt |
| 07:17.25 | Motive | :) |
| 07:17.54 | liq3 | pfft |
| 07:17.55 | Jerub | knows a programmer who wrote ed using cat because he upgraded to a new version of unix that didn't have ed. |
| 07:17.58 | picklefish | like the circular aera of effect icon |
| 07:18.01 | Cube | lol |
| 07:18.02 | picklefish | when you want to drop something |
| 07:18.06 | liq3 | jerub... LOL. |
| 07:18.10 | Motive | LOL |
| 07:18.11 | `228zip | Mmmh |
| 07:18.13 | `228zip | What the hell |
| 07:18.14 | `228zip | . |
| 07:18.21 | `228zip | Car still won't move. |
| 07:18.23 | liq3 | jerub... why didn't he just dl it? o.O |
| 07:18.35 | Motive | Real men type it out, duh. |
| 07:18.36 | Skizot | lols |
| 07:18.44 | Jerub | liq3: wow. uh. |
| 07:18.47 | Skizot | DIVIDE BY ZERO is bad.. just fyi |
| 07:18.53 | Jerub | liq3: because uh.. |
| 07:18.55 | Motive | That begs the question. |
| 07:18.58 | Motive | Can Galaxy divide by 0? |
| 07:19.01 | Motive | Someone test it, now. |
| 07:19.03 | liq3 | WE MUST TRY. |
| 07:19.08 | `228zip | LETS DO THIS |
| 07:19.13 | HyBReD | wow |
| 07:19.39 | Cube | writing your own functions is nice |
| 07:19.57 | Cube | but x/0 makes no sense! |
| 07:20.25 | `228zip | Mmh |
| 07:20.29 | `228zip | Taking a screenshot |
| 07:20.32 | liq3 | :o |
| 07:20.34 | `228zip | I just divided by 0 |
| 07:20.36 | peterpants | so how does one create an instant spell that shoots a beam between the caster and another point that damages stuff in the beam |
| 07:20.45 | liq3 | It gave an error "divide by zero" then my map broke. |
| 07:20.46 | liq3 | Amazing. |
| 07:20.49 | Motive | Haha. |
| 07:20.55 | `228zip | Mine didn't break |
| 07:20.56 | Cube | :o |
| 07:21.04 | Motive | WHAT? |
| 07:21.05 | Motive | :O |
| 07:21.08 | Jerub | liq3: it was BSDi in the very early days. the tapes with the new verison on it were missing 'ed' because it wasn't yet rewritten for BSD and the UNIX/AT&T lawsuits were still in full swing. |
| 07:21.08 | liq3 | Well mine was at the satr of my startup trigger. |
| 07:21.08 | liq3 | xD |
| 07:21.13 | Jerub | liq3: so uh. |
| 07:21.18 | Jerub | no, he coulnd't just 'download' it. |
| 07:21.25 | `228zip | Well I didn't use the value after that |
| 07:21.26 | liq3 | :P |
| 07:21.38 | Motive | Oh it might've gotten optimized out. |
| 07:21.43 | Motive | I dunno if Galaxy even optimizes. |
| 07:21.44 | Motive | But maybe. |
| 07:21.46 | liq3 | Jerub: pfft, he didn't have a time machine? noob. :/ |
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| 07:21.59 | Motive | If Galaxy optimizes code we write I'm gonna' be impressed. |
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| 07:22.18 | `228zip | We'll have to try without debug mode though |
| 07:22.37 | liq3 | anyone wanna play some hydralurk zone? |
| 07:22.38 | liq3 | ;O |
| 07:22.42 | `228zip | http://www.flickr.com/photos/228zippictures/4556681395/ |
| 07:22.42 | liq3 | or more specifically, marine/hellion. |
| 07:22.58 | `228zip | marauder/hellion is better |
| 07:23.21 | Motive | Oh so it didn't crash? |
| 07:23.23 | Motive | Amazing. |
| 07:23.29 | `228zip | I know |
| 07:23.33 | Motive | Galaxy has done what no other language could (fuck NaN). |
| 07:23.34 | liq3 | `228zip: it's a remake of an SC1 map. :/ |
| 07:23.38 | `228zip | I may crash in normal mode though |
| 07:23.47 | dorkass | ill play some hydralurk zone |
| 07:23.49 | `228zip | in not-debug mode |
| 07:23.54 | Skizot | what the hell! |
| 07:23.58 | liq3 | dorkass: you know the play custom map trick? |
| 07:24.02 | dorkass | yeah |
| 07:24.08 | liq3 | ok... which map is whicH? :D |
| 07:24.09 | liq3 | i dunno. |
| 07:24.16 | dorkass | i do twilight novice |
| 07:24.33 | Bifuu | lol |
| 07:24.39 | Bifuu | just deleted 5 gigs of shit off my desktop |
| 07:24.47 | liq3 | dorkass: ... hang on. |
| 07:25.11 | dorkass | im lookin for that tutorial link i had earlier.. |
| 07:25.15 | dorkass | it has the hash info |
| 07:25.24 | liq3 | dorkass: you on US? |
| 07:25.27 | dorkass | yeah |
| 07:25.31 | peterpants | does anyone know how outer point is used with effects |
| 07:25.32 | DaveKapp | is there any tutorial on how to make the camera top down |
| 07:25.36 | dorkass | dorkass.dorkass |
| 07:25.38 | liq3 | kk |
| 07:25.39 | liq3 | http://www.mediafire.com/?fyhw2jqkjmy |
| 07:25.40 | DaveKapp | like mojache's map or that racing map |
| 07:27.47 | Gralamin | DaveKap: Top down is simple, Want me to PM you a quick tutorial? |
| 07:28.05 | dorkass | you're doing twilight fortress novice, right? |
| 07:28.10 | dorkass | liq3 ^ |
| 07:28.22 | liq3 | suer. |
| 07:28.24 | liq3 | doesn't bother me. |
| 07:28.31 | liq3 | i dunno the hash tho. |
| 07:28.31 | liq3 | xD |
| 07:28.39 | warturtle | outerpoint I think makes stuff target or not target themselevs |
| 07:28.51 | `228zip | Ok I need help on this one |
| 07:28.58 | dorkass | im ready |
| 07:29.03 | DaveKapp | Gralamin yes please |
| 07:29.05 | liq3 | ...still dunno the hash. :o |
| 07:29.05 | warturtle | it's basically a point that contains the starting point |
| 07:29.16 | dorkass | dude it's in the link i pasted, but it's at 2e/0b |
| 07:29.20 | `228zip | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.24 | warturtle | like if a Marauder fires a weapon that hits the first thing it comes across no matter |
| 07:29.24 | DaveKapp | Really just figuring out where camera editing is located would be nice |
| 07:29.26 | `228zip | Is there something in there |
| 07:29.30 | liq3 | dorkass: You pasted a link? o.O |
| 07:29.37 | `228zip | That would make it so that newX and newY aren't modified ? |
| 07:29.46 | dorkass | or thought i pasted, wtf |
| 07:29.49 | liq3 | lol. |
| 07:29.51 | dorkass | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/563-how-to-play-online/#p4 |
| 07:30.07 | `228zip | j is the player |
| 07:30.08 | dorkass | sometimes arrow down looks like enter |
| 07:30.09 | Motive | @228zip: Chances are the movKeyDown[i][j] has something to do with it. |
| 07:30.12 | Motive | Expect the impossible. |
| 07:30.18 | Motive | I spent a day debugging one little thing |
| 07:30.23 | Motive | and it turned out something in a completely different file |
| 07:30.24 | Motive | was affecting it. |
| 07:30.28 | `228zip | the impossible ?.. |
| 07:30.31 | dorkass | GUYS im making a map about space vikings who hatch dragons to gain favor with their space gods |
| 07:30.37 | `228zip | I checked xMovKey's value |
| 07:30.39 | Motive | Don't assume the bug is in one section of code. |
| 07:30.39 | `228zip | it's normal |
| 07:30.41 | Motive | Mmk |
| 07:30.42 | `228zip | the thing activate |
| 07:30.42 | dorkass | and the dragons are ui controlled |
| 07:30.55 | Motive | I don't really know what it does so I can't comment. |
| 07:31.03 | warturtle | WHo wants to work on a pokemon game |
| 07:31.04 | Motive | But just look at every single step from trigger execution to that part |
| 07:31.07 | warturtle | the zealot will be pikachu! |
| 07:31.07 | Motive | and don't assume anything just works. |
| 07:31.09 | warturtle | :P |
| 07:31.13 | warturtle | jk |
| 07:31.15 | `228zip | Now that I think about it |
| 07:31.24 | `228zip | the bool have no default value |
| 07:31.25 | liq3 | dorkass: hrm that 2e/0b, I don't have it.... :/ |
| 07:31.32 | Motive | bool defaults to false I believe. |
| 07:31.34 | dorkass | yo add me on bnet |
| 07:31.37 | dorkass | ill walk you through it |
| 07:31.38 | Kylegar | hahhaha |
| 07:31.39 | Kylegar | victory |
| 07:31.41 | Kylegar | first map test |
| 07:31.45 | `228zip | assume the impossible right ? |
| 07:31.47 | Kylegar | was hillarious |
| 07:31.49 | Motive | I guess :P |
| 07:31.54 | Motive | I specify it, anyways. |
| 07:31.54 | Kylegar | it crashed because of too many items |
| 07:32.03 | liq3 | dorkass: coulda sworn i did. liq.three |
| 07:32.20 | `228zip | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.37 | `228zip | so i and j are in the right place |
| 07:33.06 | `228zip | Now I need to set them to false, at least for player 0 |
| 07:33.44 | Motive | I would consider evenetually abstracting that away. |
| 07:34.02 | Motive | struct AwesomeSauce { bool movKeyDown[4]; }; |
| 07:34.02 | `228zip | I really don't see what could be the problem |
| 07:34.09 | Motive | static AwesomeSauce[16] awesomeSauces; |
| 07:34.27 | warturtle | ugh I can't get attachpatterns working from abilities :/ |
| 07:34.27 | Motive | /shrug |
| 07:34.28 | `228zip | I know |
| 07:34.34 | warturtle | maybe they only work with weapon effects.. |
| 07:34.44 | `228zip | I adapted it, I originally did ini GUI |
| 07:34.47 | `228zip | well |
| 07:34.48 | Motive | I just hate multidimensional arrays now. Lol |
| 07:34.52 | `228zip | hybrid |
| 07:35.21 | `228zip | and structs don't bring anything over arrays here, do they ? |
| 07:35.31 | Motive | Not at all. |
| 07:35.34 | HyBReD | http://www.pgn-guild.com/random/Stratos.jpg |
| 07:35.35 | Motive | I just think they're ugly. Lol |
| 07:35.38 | Skizot | HyBReD you around? |
| 07:35.43 | Skizot | guess so |
| 07:35.50 | `228zip | Yea, two-dim arrays are a bit ugly |
| 07:35.56 | Skizot | where did you set the damage / radius of the baneling explode? |
| 07:36.07 | HyBReD | new spell to be comboed with a 3rd ability |
| 07:36.08 | HyBReD | :d |
| 07:36.11 | `228zip | and they can have four dimensions! |
| 07:36.18 | dorkass | Skizot you can change the splash radius on the damage effect itself |
| 07:36.28 | `228zip | Would you mind looking through the file Motive ? |
| 07:36.58 | Motive | Sure |
| 07:37.16 | Motive | it's almost 4 am though so don't expect magic. |
| 07:37.20 | Motive | I'll probably pull an all-nighter. |
| 07:37.23 | Gralamin | n-dimensional arrays aren't hard :P |
| 07:37.37 | Motive | SC2 broke my sleep schedule. |
| 07:37.41 | HyBReD | yea, they really arent |
| 07:37.59 | Bifuu | night all |
| 07:38.03 | `228zip | Gralamin: But they're ugly |
| 07:38.10 | `228zip | Night Bifuu! |
| 07:38.20 | `228zip | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DZGOVU6K |
| 07:38.21 | Gralamin | '228zip: Just think about how they are stored in the memory. |
| 07:38.27 | Gralamin | But I'm CompSci so I'm used to that. |
| 07:38.28 | Skizot | the damage is more important. |
| 07:38.40 | Xapti | zip what's in your link |
| 07:38.40 | `228zip | Gralamin: Ugliness! |
| 07:38.44 | Skizot | as banelings kill EVERYTHING |
| 07:38.47 | Motive | Downloading. |
| 07:38.47 | `228zip | it's a movement system |
| 07:38.50 | `228zip | That doesn't work |
| 07:39.05 | `228zip | It's not exactly complete though |
| 07:39.13 | `228zip | mainChar and turret are in another file |
| 07:39.21 | `228zip | not static |
| 07:39.27 | `228zip | and they're declared before |
| 07:39.39 | Motive | That'd be a syntax error if it didn't work. |
| 07:39.44 | Motive | I'm gonna be looking for logic errors. |
| 07:39.53 | `228zip | Alright |
| 07:40.00 | Motive | Damnit google chrome can't connect to the server. |
| 07:40.03 | Motive | Restarting the DL. |
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| 07:41.09 | Motive | Got it |
| 07:41.18 | Gralamin | So guys, in my SC2 Pacman, what model should the ghosts be, and what model should the player be? |
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| 07:41.52 | peterpants | if you create a function in GUI is there a way to get it to show up in the GUI action list? |
| 07:42.04 | `228zip | Want to know what I checked ? |
| 07:42.09 | Xapti | yo Zixen you there? |
| 07:42.11 | Gralamin | peterpants: Try applying a Label? |
| 07:42.11 | Xapti | Sixen |
| 07:42.15 | Motive | Nah. Probably best I don't ignore anything. |
| 07:42.30 | peterpants | gralamin oops i guess you can change it to an action |
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| 07:43.16 | Gralamin | Peterpants: try rightclicking on it, going down to "Apply Label" and choosing UI. |
| 07:43.16 | Motive | You've verified UpdateCharPosition is being called, btw, right? |
| 07:43.16 | Xapti | Coldragon, Daimakaicho? |
| 07:43.41 | peterpants | gralamin yea i got it now |
| 07:43.49 | peterpants | can you not make a behhavior variable/ |
| 07:44.07 | `228zip | Motive: Yes |
| 07:44.13 | `228zip | TriggerDebugging says so |
| 07:44.17 | Gralamin | peterpants: What do you mean? What are you trying to do with behavior? |
| 07:44.17 | `228zip | UIDisplayMessage too |
| 07:44.56 | peterpants | gralamin if i want a function that checks to see if a unit has a behavior if not give it to them like making a behavior a parameter of the function |
| 07:44.56 | Motive | Hmm... it looks good. |
| 07:45.20 | `228zip | Damn it. |
| 07:45.36 | Gralamin | peterpants: I think you have to do it by checking effects instead. Not sure. |
| 07:45.54 | `228zip | It worked before I removed lv_ and gv_ everywhere |
| 07:46.01 | `228zip | and renamed functions |
| 07:46.09 | Motive | I can tell you lv_ and gv_ aren't necessary. I don't use them at all. |
| 07:46.19 | `228zip | That's why I removed them |
| 07:46.30 | `228zip | But I can't tell what's the problem now. |
| 07:46.30 | Motive | I'd just throw down a shitload of debug code if I were you. |
| 07:46.36 | Gralamin | Oh wait. |
| 07:46.42 | Gralamin | peterpants: Found out how I think let me check |
| 07:46.48 | liq3 | "global variable" |
| 07:46.49 | liq3 | >.> |
| 07:46.50 | `228zip | Going to have to reduce the period of the timer then |
| 07:46.53 | dorkass | hey, who knows how to adjust the default camera height for all players so everythings not way zoomed in? |
| 07:46.59 | `228zip | 0.02.. it's not gonna help |
| 07:47.03 | Motive | What I did with Cortex is make a function libcrtx_debug to write stuff with. |
| 07:47.05 | peterpants | gramalin i looked at customscript and when it c hecks for a behavior it just uses a string so i suppose all i need is the name of the behavior |
| 07:47.07 | Gralamin | peterpants: Set the Type to "Game Link" |
| 07:47.09 | Motive | And it only printed if I set a debug var to true. |
| 07:47.16 | Gralamin | peterpants: And choose Link type: Behavior |
| 07:47.26 | liq3 | dorkass: hey i wonder if it's a bug from doing that map trick? |
| 07:47.29 | Motive | But you seemed to have debugging down at least for the division by 0. |
| 07:47.41 | `228zip | Haha |
| 07:47.41 | dorkass | nah cuz it does the same thing when you test it in the editor |
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| 07:47.43 | Gralamin | Err "- Game link" |
| 07:47.49 | peterpants | gralamin ah very cool thanks that works too |
| 07:47.52 | `228zip | I'm going to write a debug function |
| 07:47.59 | `228zip | shorter than UIDisplayMessage |
| 07:48.04 | `228zip | BJDebugMsg ? x) |
| 07:48.13 | dorkass | there's gotta be some kind of camera action cuz maps used that shit all the time in wc3, -zoom 3000 etc |
| 07:48.15 | Motive | ewww BJs. |
| 07:48.18 | Motive | irony intended. |
| 07:48.40 | `228zip | We can get rid of the BJ indeed =p |
| 07:48.43 | Motive | Sometimes I wonder who names Blizzard's stuff. |
| 07:48.48 | Motive | .wtf files for WoW. |
| 07:48.53 | Motive | BJ prefix for JASS stuff. |
| 07:48.55 | dorkass | heh |
| 07:48.59 | `228zip | Blizzard Jass |
| 07:49.08 | `228zip | Isn't that what it is ? |
| 07:49.15 | Motive | Well |
| 07:49.19 | Motive | BJs were wrappers around natives |
| 07:49.23 | `228zip | But yeah, wtf files are.. wtf |
| 07:49.25 | Motive | so I dont think it stood for Blizzard JASS |
| 07:49.47 | `228zip | No idea then |
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| 07:49.49 | Motive | I just remember everyone being like "Ugh, why would you use a BJ?" |
| 07:50.02 | `228zip | Everyone including me! x) |
| 07:50.10 | `228zip | The only one useful was BJDebugMSg |
| 07:50.16 | DaveKap_ | er anyway.... there has to be a better way to issue commands to groups of units. doing a for loop over every unit in a group causes the game to stutter :( |
| 07:50.34 | Motive | You must have a very slow computer or a lot of units then. D: |
| 07:50.39 | DaveKap_ | lot of units |
| 07:50.40 | DaveKap_ | :) |
| 07:50.47 | Motive | How many exactly? |
| 07:50.51 | DaveKap_ | hundreds.... |
| 07:50.59 | Motive | Damn. Lol |
| 07:51.15 | `228zip | void BJDebugMsg(string s) {UIDisplayMessage(allPlayers, 7, StringToText(s));} |
| 07:51.16 | Gralamin | DaveKap: What sort of order are you trying to do? |
| 07:51.21 | `228zip | It's back. |
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| 07:51.27 | DaveKap_ | just a generic "all units in this region attack this point" |
| 07:51.47 | Motive | You know I find c_messageAreaDebug is a prettier area to print stuff than c_messageAreaChat or anything e lse. |
| 07:51.50 | Gralamin | DaveKap: Damn, I don't think there is a nice easy way around that. |
| 07:51.54 | Skizot | :( |
| 07:51.56 | Motive | My entire map prints user text to c_messageAreaDebug and gives it pretty colors. |
| 07:52.01 | `228zip | c_messageAreaDebug = 7 |
| 07:52.01 | Motive | I feel bad doing it but it just looks better. |
| 07:52.15 | DaveKap_ | tries to make this more efficient |
| 07:52.18 | `228zip | It was the default area in wc3 too |
| 07:52.21 | Motive | Yeah |
| 07:52.26 | Motive | It just feels right. |
| 07:52.49 | Motive | I also throw in a few spaces so that it's a bit moved to the right |
| 07:52.53 | Motive | and it looks like WC3-style. |
| 07:52.53 | `228zip | I guess every five seconds will be better |
| 07:53.19 | DaveKap_ | oh wait |
| 07:53.23 | DaveKap_ | i figured out how to do it without a loop |
| 07:53.24 | DaveKap_ | derp |
| 07:53.34 | Motive | How? |
| 07:53.37 | Gralamin | Just order an entire unit group? |
| 07:53.40 | Motive | I could see that being useful. |
| 07:53.43 | DaveKap_ | yeah |
| 07:53.50 | DaveKap_ | I wonder what's causing the stutter then |
| 07:54.06 | DaveKap_ | there is an "order all units in unit group" action |
| 07:54.27 | Motive | Ah |
| 07:55.37 | DaveKap_ | tries somethin different |
| 07:56.14 | Xapti | huh. I just tried changing map names to do the online play hack |
| 07:56.15 | Xapti | didn't work |
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| 07:56.25 | Xapti | just loaded the normal map |
| 07:56.29 | DaveKap_ | yea last time i tried it didn't work for me either, it crashed the game |
| 07:56.30 | DaveKap_ | haha |
| 07:56.43 | DaveKap_ | did you rename while in the game lobby? |
| 07:56.49 | Xapti | yes |
| 07:56.56 | Grum | obvious much |
| 07:57.08 | Xapti | first time we tried it, he used the launcher, and i did it manually (cause launcher doesn't work for me) |
| 07:57.22 | Grum | that doesnt work |
| 07:57.31 | Xapti | it crashed for both of us |
| 07:57.37 | Xapti | but hte second time we both did it manually, and |
| 07:57.42 | Xapti | it just loaded LT |
| 07:57.58 | Grum | load up a game on a novice map, find the novicemap in your cache, replace the novicemap with your map, (do this for both sides of the game) and then start another game |
| 07:58.01 | DaveKap_ | ok the stutter was because I ordered all units on the map |
| 07:58.08 | DaveKap_ | ordering units from a region works much better :) |
| 07:58.23 | Xapti | i did it with normal lost temple |
| 07:58.26 | `228zip | I hear there is a syntax error on this line |
| 07:58.26 | `228zip | void BJDebugMsg(string s) {UIDisplayMessage(allPlayers, 7, StringToText(s));} |
| 07:58.33 | `228zip | Anyone see a problem ? |
| 07:58.47 | random_ | hi, anyone knows how to stop weaponless unit from fleeing when it's attacked? |
| 07:58.50 | Motive | allPlayers -> PlayerGroupAll() maybe |
| 07:58.54 | Grum | yeah the trigger editor didnt generate it! ;D |
| 07:59.01 | warturtle | make a custom move ability |
| 07:59.07 | warturtle | and edit the run away entry |
| 07:59.14 | Kylegar | ruh roh scoobyu |
| 07:59.21 | Kylegar | if you put timed life on an item |
| 07:59.22 | `228zip | allPlayers exists |
| 07:59.25 | `228zip | Oh wait |
| 07:59.26 | Kylegar | then put it in your inventory |
| 07:59.29 | Kylegar | it still has a timed life |
| 07:59.31 | random_ | =O, ill try, thx |
| 07:59.39 | `228zip | It doesn't because I didn't include the file with checking >.> |
| 07:59.47 | Motive | :D |
| 08:00.36 | Kylegar | anyway, if anyone is interested in playing a strange custom map that only half works |
| 08:00.38 | Kylegar | let me know |
| 08:00.47 | DaveKap_ | online? |
| 08:00.49 | `228zip | Oh |
| 08:00.50 | Kylegar | actually, i need to get timed life working on items |
| 08:00.50 | Kylegar | yea |
| 08:00.52 | `228zip | RealToString |
| 08:00.52 | DaveKap_ | sure |
| 08:00.55 | DaveKap_ | I want to try again |
| 08:01.03 | Kylegar | DaveKap_ i got it working with a friend |
| 08:01.05 | Kylegar | it's pretty simple |
| 08:01.07 | `228zip | Fixed suck anyway |
| 08:01.14 | Kylegar | but, right now it crashes after ~5 minutes |
| 08:01.17 | Kylegar | too many items |
| 08:01.23 | DaveKap_ | ok |
| 08:01.42 | DaveKap_ | which cache |
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| 08:01.51 | DaveKap_ | er i guess i need a link first :) |
| 08:03.02 | `228zip | Alright |
| 08:03.07 | `228zip | Time to assume the impossible |
| 08:03.14 | `228zip | let's assume |
| 08:03.15 | `228zip | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:03.17 | `228zip | didn't work |
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| 08:03.31 | Motive | mainChar[j] == null? |
| 08:03.32 | Motive | test that. :P |
| 08:03.42 | `228zip | Camera says it's not |
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| 08:04.00 | `228zip | What a sec |
| 08:04.07 | `228zip | I'm doing this 16 times |
| 08:04.08 | GardenOfAiur | dang. no dice on the key :( already claimed. lol. starcraft likes to taunt me. |
| 08:05.23 | DaveKap_ | Kylegar? |
| 08:05.40 | Kylegar | DaveKap_ gimme a sec, I'm trying to fix this |
| 08:05.49 | DaveKap_ | k |
| 08:06.05 | `228zip | Apparently the problems comes from the other thing. |
| 08:06.15 | `228zip | the if |
| 08:06.21 | `228zip | It never works |
| 08:06.48 | Sixen | Xapti, you wanted me? |
| 08:06.57 | GardenOfAiur | ow owww |
| 08:06.57 | GardenOfAiur | lol |
| 08:07.01 | Xapti | yeah the map changer for online play doesn't work on XP |
| 08:07.30 | Xapti | Also, I try doing it manually on lost temple, and it just loads LT, |
| 08:07.35 | GardenOfAiur | ohh there is a map change out now? |
| 08:07.43 | Xapti | as if i wasn't changing hte right file, but i'm pretty sure it's lost temple |
| 08:07.43 | GardenOfAiur | changer :p |
| 08:08.09 | Xapti | yeah it will automatically change your map to the lost temple name |
| 08:08.27 | Xapti | doesn't work on XP though |
| 08:08.33 | Sixen | hrm |
| 08:08.38 | Sixen | put a comment on the project, let him know |
| 08:08.55 | Sixen | "Now, it's compatible with Vista and Seven. We don't know fo XP. Please report bugs you're notice" |
| 08:09.06 | Sixen | :P |
| 08:09.18 | Xapti | yeah i saw that |
| 08:09.37 | Xapti | i don't have mapster acct |
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| 08:10.59 | Grum | Xapti: then make one? :/ |
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| 08:11.38 | `228zip | Motive |
| 08:11.42 | `228zip | I just noticed |
| 08:11.54 | `228zip | That ADown and AUp triggered at the same time |
| 08:12.06 | Motive | Haha. That would cause problems. :P |
| 08:12.08 | `228zip | ='(( |
| 08:12.45 | `228zip | I was too quick in my copy/paste! ='( |
| 08:12.56 | Motive | Yeah it's usually |
| 08:12.59 | Motive | something not even where you're looking |
| 08:13.07 | `228zip | Yea |
| 08:13.09 | Motive | in this case something you assumed was so simple (a boolean being set) you overlook. |
| 08:13.12 | `228zip | The stupidest mistake |
| 08:13.14 | Motive | yup |
| 08:13.20 | Motive | smallest problems cause the most work |
| 08:13.58 | Motive | I think I'm going to add the Uberlisk into my map just for shits n giggles. |
| 08:14.31 | Motive | Or maybe the Ubercruiser. |
| 08:14.41 | Motive | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK0mDswINtc |
| 08:14.45 | `228zip | The Battlecruiser is already uber |
| 08:14.58 | Motive | Check out the ubercruiser |
| 08:15.02 | Motive | then you'll know what uber is. |
| 08:15.12 | `228zip | DO IT |
| 08:15.15 | `228zip | NOW |
| 08:15.15 | GardenOfAiur | nice |
| 08:15.19 | Motive | Ubercruiser vs Uberlisk |
| 08:15.20 | Motive | :O |
| 08:15.20 | GardenOfAiur | sweet video |
| 08:15.37 | DaveKap_ | oh yeah isn't there a tutorial for making the uberlisk? |
| 08:15.37 | Motive | You know what I want to see? |
| 08:15.49 | Motive | Someone make a unit that could jump onto the flying air unit and tear it apart |
| 08:15.50 | `228zip | UBERCRUISER WINS |
| 08:15.51 | Motive | while the unit is moving around. |
| 08:15.52 | `228zip | TOTALLY |
| 08:15.55 | Motive | Then once it dies, the unit falls off. |
| 08:15.58 | Motive | And continues it's rampage. |
| 08:16.09 | Cube | oo i made someting sex |
| 08:16.12 | Kylegar | anyone have an idea how to check to see if a unit gets an item? |
| 08:16.16 | Kylegar | like a trigger or something? |
| 08:16.28 | `228zip | ~8ball UBERCRUISER WINS RIGHT?!!!! |
| 08:16.29 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 08:16.41 | `228zip | ... |
| 08:16.55 | Motive | Dude, if the Uberlisk jumps onto the Ubercruiser, what happens? |
| 08:16.59 | Motive | Those terrans are fucked. |
| 08:17.09 | `228zip | It doesn't need to jump |
| 08:17.13 | Motive | But what if it did? |
| 08:17.19 | `228zip | It can bring it down with the spine crawler |
| 08:17.21 | `228zip | To the ground |
| 08:17.25 | `228zip | And then stomp on it |
| 08:17.25 | warturtle | lol a unit that jumps on other units.. |
| 08:17.29 | warturtle | would be so hard I bet |
| 08:17.40 | Grum | someone has to patch the ultralisk .. so it can pick up units at the end of its tentacles |
| 08:17.45 | Grum | and then slap other units with it |
| 08:17.51 | `228zip | warturtle We did that all the time in WC3! |
| 08:17.59 | warturtle | ? |
| 08:18.09 | `228zip | Units jumping |
| 08:18.15 | warturtle | onto other units? |
| 08:18.20 | warturtle | and then tearing them apart |
| 08:18.21 | Grum | that would be SO fun :p |
| 08:18.22 | `228zip | Why |
| 08:18.27 | `228zip | not |
| 08:18.29 | warturtle | lol |
| 08:18.31 | Grum | being able to jump on an airunit |
| 08:18.36 | Grum | so you can hit it with ground |
| 08:18.41 | FrozenFirebat | Sweet! I finally figured out how to get Multiple weapons to fire from the same unit, using diff cooldowns. |
| 08:18.47 | Grum | a sort of 'inverse phoenix antigravity field' :p |
| 08:19.01 | warturtle | no they have to grapple hook onto them |
| 08:19.10 | `228zip | But what happens if the jumping unit is caught by a graviton beam ? |
| 08:19.16 | `228zip | is the phoenix grounded still ? |
| 08:19.18 | Grum | chuck norris dies |
| 08:19.25 | `228zip | Division by zero |
| 08:20.23 | warturtle | I should start practicing by making crazy abilities :/ |
| 08:21.12 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: o.O |
| 08:21.19 | Motive | Make me a zergling that can jump onto air units and claw at them. While in the air attacking, they can be targetted as air units. |
| 08:21.24 | Motive | THAT would be fun to watch. |
| 08:21.38 | warturtle | ok |
| 08:21.45 | Kylegar | ok |
| 08:21.47 | Kylegar | this is annoying |
| 08:21.48 | peterpants | ok |
| 08:21.48 | Grum | and make the airunit drop to the floor when you get more than 12 lings on it :p |
| 08:21.55 | Motive | Haha yes. |
| 08:22.01 | `228zip | Doable. |
| 08:22.02 | `228zip | Long |
| 08:22.03 | peterpants | or 3 lings |
| 08:22.05 | `228zip | but doable |
| 08:22.19 | warturtle | Im going to have to write all that down for reference |
| 08:22.20 | Grum | first start with something else |
| 08:22.24 | Grum | give thor a jump attack :p |
| 08:22.41 | Grum | and then give a mothership a 'crush' attack =D |
| 08:22.54 | Motive | Ultralisks were made to jump. |
| 08:22.56 | Motive | :D |
| 08:23.01 | Motive | Especially the Uberlisk. |
| 08:23.06 | Grum | :p |
| 08:23.09 | peterpants | if you can rotate units make the mothership turn on its side and do a buzzsaw attack |
| 08:23.13 | `228zip | Give the terran buildings the ability to land on top of other units |
| 08:23.15 | warturtle | Zergling that Jumps on Air units and bites them |
| 08:23.16 | warturtle | Whem More than 3 zerglings are attacking the same air unit, it falls to the ground. |
| 08:23.18 | `228zip | That'd be awesome. |
| 08:23.18 | Motive | LOL |
| 08:23.22 | Grum | peterpants: and make the thor for a roll attack! |
| 08:23.23 | warturtle | Is that correct specs? |
| 08:23.27 | Grum | *do a roll attack |
| 08:23.32 | Motive | Give siege engines a barrel roll ability. |
| 08:23.35 | Motive | It'd come at the enemy at high speed |
| 08:23.36 | Motive | roll over |
| 08:23.38 | Grum | yeah hahah |
| 08:23.40 | Motive | and every thing it hits dies. |
| 08:23.40 | peterpants | warturtle yes i believe that would make a balanced edition |
| 08:23.44 | Motive | The siege engine is after that destroyed. |
| 08:23.48 | peterpants | addition* |
| 08:23.50 | peterpants | to the game |
| 08:23.50 | Grum | it would be really nice if you could make combined units |
| 08:23.51 | peterpants | lol |
| 08:24.00 | warturtle | you can |
| 08:24.03 | Grum | combine a thor with a siege tank and the thor uses the siege tank as a bat to slap units with |
| 08:24.08 | warturtle | they did it for april fools one year |
| 08:24.29 | warturtle | Ill work on the jumping zergling first :P |
| 08:24.32 | Grum | or have a thor pick up some zealots and use them as nunchucks |
| 08:24.45 | Motive | wooo |
| 08:24.55 | Grum | i think in general thors should be able to pick up shit and toss it up cliffs :p |
| 08:25.05 | random_ | is there any way to remove "you can't control that unit" message when clicking right mouse button whith enemy unit selected? |
| 08:25.08 | Motive | Air units should have a Ram option. |
| 08:25.15 | Motive | They accelerate to high speed and attempt to hit ground or air targets. |
| 08:25.19 | Grum | Motive: 'Airbonk' :p |
| 08:25.27 | Grum | haha Kamikaze ;D |
| 08:25.44 | Grum | 'ability to be used on low health' :p |
| 08:26.22 | Grum | obviously banelings should get 'fart'-speed boosts |
| 08:26.46 | Grum | and all zerg units should be able to eat smaller zerg units to gain special abilities |
| 08:27.13 | Motive | Obviously, Overlords should be able to pick up unsuspecting ground units and digest them over time. |
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| 08:27.28 | Grum | you should be able to sit ontop of overlords |
| 08:27.29 | Motive | I mean, what else are those tentacle-like things under them for? |
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| 08:27.38 | peterpants | what about giving an SCV the ability to pick up and move a mineral patch |
| 08:27.54 | Grum | peterpants: you'd need 4 to do that job :p |
| 08:28.10 | Grum | that's be fun ;) |
| 08:28.15 | peterpants | hell i wish i could make one ability lol |
| 08:28.27 | Grum | 3 for a mineralpatch and 6 for a geyser :p |
| 08:28.46 | Grum | btw that would be a good ability though |
| 08:28.52 | darkparasit | hi, i finaly managed it to create a upgrade (it has 5 levels (maxLevel=5)) now if i get the upgrade 5times ingame i would like that the icon to research disapears, anyone have an idee where i can do this? (sorry my english^^) |
| 08:28.53 | Motive | I'm surprised siege tanks don't have an attack ground. |
| 08:29.37 | `228zip | They do ? |
| 08:29.42 | `228zip | oh |
| 08:29.46 | `228zip | You mean like in WC3 |
| 08:29.50 | Grum | hmm you should be able to stack tanks and then have them fall over ontop of other units |
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| 08:29.56 | `228zip | Did you use in WC3 ? |
| 08:30.18 | Motive | Yeah, I miss some stuff from WC3. |
| 08:30.20 | Motive | Mostly terrain editing. |
| 08:30.23 | Grum | and obviously helions should be able to take infantry as passengers |
| 08:30.32 | Motive | You could even change the tile of the terrain. :( |
| 08:30.42 | Grum | and immortals can have zealots sitting on their shoulders |
| 08:30.42 | Motive | Or destroy trees. |
| 08:31.00 | peterpants | is there a way to make a validator return a point? |
| 08:31.05 | Grum | Motive: you can actually in sc2 as well .. you can completely fuck over the terrain |
| 08:31.22 | Grum | apparently 'buildings' have an actor that is able to change terrain |
| 08:31.26 | `228zip | Motive: Can't destroy trees though. |
| 08:31.37 | Grum | `228zip: you can make that as well |
| 08:31.43 | Grum | just make them like destructable rocks |
| 08:31.43 | Motive | It doesn't affect pathing though. |
| 08:31.48 | Motive | Pathing is the most important part. :/ |
| 08:31.49 | `228zip | There are trees ? |
| 08:32.05 | Grum | you need to make them destructable :) |
| 08:32.11 | Motive | But that involves unit editing! |
| 08:32.13 | Motive | I'm lazy. |
| 08:32.18 | Grum | yeah hehe |
| 08:32.59 | Motive | Wasn't there a way to make a trigger execute in a new thread? I remember seeing it somewhere. |
| 08:33.11 | Motive | Or maybe I just read it wrong. |
| 08:33.13 | peterpants | what does outer point mean in regards to an effect |
| 08:33.15 | `228zip | in the GUI yeah |
| 08:33.23 | Motive | There's no native for it? |
| 08:33.29 | Motive | o_O |
| 08:33.29 | `228zip | no idea |
| 08:33.34 | Motive | I need to look now :] |
| 08:33.40 | Motive | I have plans for that soon. |
| 08:33.50 | darkparasit | nobody any idee how to make that the icons of a upgrade disapears when they reached the maxlevel? |
| 08:35.08 | Grum | darkparasit: maybe look at how 'one shot upgrade buildings' do it? |
| 08:35.27 | Motive | Yeah I don't see it anymore. Maybe it was removed. |
| 08:35.36 | Grum | darkparasit: like blink or charge orso for protoss, those are researched and i htink they indeed have the upgrade button removed |
| 08:36.01 | darkparasit | ok thx will look at them |
| 08:36.15 | Grum | Mods/Core.SC2Mod/enGB.SC2Data/LocalizedData/Editor/EditorStrings.txt:EDSTR_TRIGGER_FUNCTIONFLAG_CREATETHREAD=Create Thread |
| 08:36.31 | Grum | seems to be a function-flag? |
| 08:36.59 | Motive | Well I searhced the GUI and natives for "Thread" and can't find anything meaningful. |
| 08:37.15 | Motive | I can definitely see reasons to not give us a way to spawn threads though. |
| 08:37.25 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.28 | Grum | that has a <flagCreateThread/> |
| 08:37.38 | Motive | Just think of the havoc someone could wreak by spawning a billion threads and making the processor just do thread context switches all day long. |
| 08:37.39 | `228zip | Try clicking the icons in the trigger editor |
| 08:37.50 | `228zip | there's something you can check to create a new thread iirc |
| 08:38.20 | Grum | oh wait what i just pasted goes along with: <identifier>_BB_HPBarChange</identifier> |
| 08:38.41 | `228zip | BB is for Boss bar ;) |
| 08:38.51 | Grum | yeah |
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| 08:39.30 | Motive | Maybe it's hidden for Blizzard use only. |
| 08:40.44 | Motive | AHA |
| 08:40.50 | Motive | GUI functions only |
| 08:40.56 | Motive | options: Create Thread |
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| 08:43.18 | Kylegar | great |
| 08:43.23 | Motive | I'm looking at the implementation in custom script, I can't see what's different about it though. |
| 08:43.26 | Kylegar | there is no event for picking up an item |
| 08:43.30 | Motive | I don't think it does anything. LOl |
| 08:43.34 | Kylegar | and there is no way to tell if a specific item is in your inventory |
| 08:44.47 | Motive | Jesus it's like 5 am. I'm going to try and get very little sleep. Lol |
| 08:44.49 | Motive | Night guys. |
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| 08:50.17 | Xapti | DAMN... so aside form unit state (mostly just simple stuff like speed/health) and unit property (flags), you can't change other attributes of a unit? |
| 08:50.32 | Xapti | with triggers |
| 08:50.46 | Xapti | have to use custom function? |
| 08:51.26 | `228zip | Create another unit ? |
| 08:51.30 | Xapti | *oh and state is the flags property is the other stuff |
| 08:52.56 | Kylegar | mm |
| 08:53.03 | Kylegar | this is taking way longer than I wanted it to |
| 08:53.30 | Kylegar | DaveKap_ sorry i'm taking so long |
| 08:53.39 | Kylegar | i'm trying to stop the map from crashing due to too many units |
| 08:55.42 | liq3 | Kylegar: o.O |
| 08:56.58 | Kylegar | yea |
| 08:57.05 | Kylegar | except this is fucked |
| 08:57.05 | liq3 | what kinda map is it? |
| 08:57.05 | Kylegar | so |
| 08:57.08 | Kylegar | a hero map |
| 08:57.10 | Kylegar | but |
| 08:57.17 | Kylegar | waves of zerglings spawn and drop items when they die |
| 08:57.19 | Kylegar | so |
| 08:57.23 | Kylegar | I put a timed life on items |
| 08:57.30 | Kylegar | so that they expire after 60 seconds |
| 08:57.31 | liq3 | ... |
| 08:57.33 | Kylegar | keep the number down |
| 08:57.34 | liq3 | zerglings that dorp items. |
| 08:57.36 | Kylegar | yes |
| 08:57.39 | Kylegar | roll with me here |
| 08:57.43 | Kylegar | well |
| 08:57.50 | liq3 | Because we all know those zerglings just LOVE the shinies. >.> |
| 08:57.59 | Kylegar | that effect then carrys over to when those items are in your inventory |
| 08:58.19 | Kylegar | so i though, 'hey, lets do some trigger magic to remove that timed life behavior when they get picked up' |
| 08:58.27 | liq3 | you could just give them monies then have them buy the items. w/e tho. |
| 08:58.28 | liq3 | o.O |
| 08:58.29 | Kylegar | and ell oh fucking ell there is no wevent for it |
| 08:58.36 | peterpants | can you create an effect that fires a projectile in the direction a unit is facing without having a target? |
| 08:58.46 | Kylegar | liq3 how to make shop? |
| 08:58.51 | liq3 | i don't know. |
| 08:58.51 | liq3 | xD |
| 08:58.53 | liq3 | it's possible tho. |
| 08:58.54 | Kylegar | i guess that's something for me to figure out later |
| 08:58.55 | Kylegar | yea |
| 08:58.57 | Kylegar | I know it is |
| 08:59.03 | Kylegar | and I know we will see it in sc2 singleplayer |
| 08:59.07 | Kylegar | because there is shit for it |
| 08:59.20 | liq3 | actually it might have been added just for dota style maps. |
| 08:59.24 | liq3 | or any map that wats items. |
| 08:59.28 | HyBReD | uhm |
| 08:59.32 | liq3 | i mean there was SC1 RPGs that had "item" system.s |
| 08:59.38 | Xan | does it not work to enter custom script code? |
| 08:59.39 | Xan | :/ |
| 08:59.44 | HyBReD | Why isn't "Last Created Actor" coming up in Attach Model to Unit? |
| 09:00.55 | Gohla | You can write your own galaxy files and import then, but you can't use them in the map script yet I think, because you can't include it -_-' |
| 09:01.59 | Xan | the custom script code when you create a custom function doesn't work either, it doesn't even compile |
| 09:02.00 | Kylegar | cool |
| 09:02.00 | Xan | :/ |
| 09:02.08 | Kylegar | you can make your own player colors |
| 09:02.21 | `228zip | Xan: You have to check a box for it to compile |
| 09:02.26 | Xan | which box? |
| 09:02.35 | Xan | oh |
| 09:02.36 | Xan | that box |
| 09:02.45 | Gohla | You have to tell the action/function that it uses a custom script |
| 09:02.49 | Xan | ahh |
| 09:03.02 | Gohla | But it still just copy pastes your script on the location where it's called I think |
| 09:03.09 | Gohla | instead of making a function |
| 09:03.18 | Gohla | but didn't spend a lot of time testing that :p |
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| 09:09.40 | peterpants | what controls how fast a projectile goes with launch missle |
| 09:11.15 | omeg | Gohla: use "general-custom script" action instead |
| 09:11.26 | omeg | that way you can define whole function body |
| 09:12.01 | Gohla | Oh nice, didn't know it was possible |
| 09:12.02 | `228zip | Or import your own galaxy file and gain total control |
| 09:12.14 | Gohla | I tried importing my own galaxy file but you can't include it in your map script? |
| 09:12.15 | omeg | yeah, i'll do that most likely |
| 09:12.28 | `228zip | Well |
| 09:12.35 | `228zip | use the "include" command ;) |
| 09:12.51 | Xapti | OMG where can i download Starcraft kart racer? |
| 09:12.56 | Xan | you can't give a variable a value on declaration? |
| 09:12.57 | Xan | :/ |
| 09:13.01 | Xan | gives compile error |
| 09:13.51 | Gohla | 15`228zip: there's an include command in the trigger editor? |
| 09:14.07 | Kylegar | import |
| 09:14.09 | Xapti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFbFCTziw28 |
| 09:14.14 | `228zip | In galaxy yes |
| 09:14.42 | Gohla | Yes I know, but then you'd have to edit your map script? |
| 09:14.52 | `228zip | Yup |
| 09:14.55 | `228zip | Import your own even |
| 09:14.59 | Gohla | mmk |
| 09:15.17 | Gohla | Well I'm trying to create a library, don't want to compicate things for people using it |
| 09:16.11 | Xapti | Where can i download Wacky Race??????!!!!! |
| 09:16.37 | Kylegar | huh |
| 09:16.42 | Kylegar | you still can't export/import data |
| 09:16.52 | Kylegar | something todo later |
| 09:16.58 | Kylegar | I'll make a import/export tool |
| 09:17.01 | Kylegar | for data sets |
| 09:17.08 | Kylegar | export your units to share |
| 09:17.12 | Kylegar | it'd be cool |
| 09:17.15 | Gohla | You can export your unit xml |
| 09:17.20 | Gohla | but dunno about importing |
| 09:17.22 | Kylegar | yea |
| 09:17.27 | Kylegar | you export the entire map xml |
| 09:17.29 | Kylegar | so |
| 09:17.36 | Gohla | true |
| 09:17.38 | Kylegar | just load up that xml, list the units inside of it |
| 09:17.44 | Kylegar | select the ones you want to export |
| 09:17.47 | Kylegar | create a new xml filre |
| 09:17.49 | Kylegar | file* |
| 09:17.54 | Kylegar | with just those units |
| 09:18.03 | Gohla | And what about this "Section" thing in the overview manager? Not sure what that does but it looked like it had something to do with importing/exporting stuff? |
| 09:18.04 | Kylegar | to import, literally copy + paste it into your map xml |
| 09:18.06 | Kylegar | shouldn't be too hard |
| 09:18.18 | Kylegar | it looks like it, but it doesn't do it |
| 09:18.27 | Gohla | ah too bad |
| 09:18.51 | Gohla | Then an import/export program would be nice yeah :p |
| 09:19.01 | Kylegar | yea |
| 09:19.08 | Kylegar | would be piss easy to write in C# |
| 09:19.10 | Kylegar | project to do later |
| 09:19.19 | Kylegar | probably in my incredibly boring CS class |
| 09:19.33 | Gohla | :P |
| 09:21.04 | Gohla | Ah the SC2Map file is just a MPQ archive, easy to edit then |
| 09:21.12 | Kylegar | not only that |
| 09:21.17 | Kylegar | you can export the xml files direct |
| 09:21.27 | Kylegar | with the magic of the save as button |
| 09:21.29 | HyBReD | o god |
| 09:21.33 | HyBReD | this is so sexy |
| 09:21.39 | HyBReD | i just have to self-pat over and over |
| 09:21.41 | HyBReD | http://www.pgn-guild.com/random/Sanctum.jpg |
| 09:21.54 | `228zip | erm |
| 09:22.03 | `228zip | Use the Import editor ? |
| 09:22.12 | `228zip | F9 ? |
| 09:22.12 | FrozenFirebat | [Tutorial] Multiple Weapon Effects - http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401906857&postId=243995526333&sid=5000#0 |
| 09:22.26 | Kylegar | oh |
| 09:22.31 | Gohla | Yeah but you can't export unit xml files back into the editor? |
| 09:22.35 | Kylegar | you are kidding me, I totally didn't see that |
| 09:22.43 | Gohla | lol |
| 09:23.13 | Kylegar | i'm still writing my tool |
| 09:23.26 | Gohla | You can only replace files but not append stuff to files |
| 09:23.30 | Kylegar | yea |
| 09:23.39 | Kylegar | I want to make it stupidly easy to add levels |
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| 09:23.49 | Kylegar | since they are so straight forward, needs loops |
| 09:24.05 | Kylegar | and rapidly create buttons |
| 09:24.07 | Kylegar | and shit |
| 09:24.19 | Xapti | Where can i download WACKY RACE starcraft 2 map? |
| 09:25.17 | `228zip | On Google ? |
| 09:26.04 | Kylegar | nn |
| 09:26.56 | Xan | how do I change the global lightning positioning dynamically? |
| 09:28.38 | Xan | e.g. to create day/night cycles |
| 09:28.56 | Hati | Trigger |
| 09:28.57 | Xapti | google cannot find it |
| 09:29.02 | Hati | theres a day trigger |
| 09:29.08 | Hati | to enable day cycle etc. |
| 09:29.25 | Skizot | how do i make a unit stop fleeing when attacked? |
| 09:29.30 | Gohla | "Set time of day lighting" action |
| 09:29.42 | Xan | tried that, nothing happens :/ |
| 09:29.44 | Skizot | isn't there an ai thing i can turn on or off? |
| 09:31.10 | Gohla | 15Skizot: in the data editor probably, something with behavior |
| 09:32.07 | Gohla | Go to the unit and then edit the "Abilities - Response" property |
| 09:34.37 | dorkass | has anyone successfully given a unit a different physical weapon like pimp my peon? |
| 09:34.42 | dorkass | like graphic wise |
| 09:34.53 | liq3 | don't think it's possible. |
| 09:34.57 | liq3 | I think the gun is part of the units model. |
| 09:35.02 | dorkass | gahyeeyeye |
| 09:35.12 | dorkass | that's me saying gay like a terrorist |
| 09:35.30 | Mojache | oh man |
| 09:35.32 | Mojache | play test time? |
| 09:35.41 | dorkass | that really sucks, so heroes are stuck with like one weapon unless you make separate models to switch to? |
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| 09:35.59 | Mojache | you around mr Sixen |
| 09:36.09 | dorkass | my problem is that i'm trying to make maps that are better suited to wc3 but im too stubborn to negotiate |
| 09:36.30 | dorkass | i'll play test with you if you need more |
| 09:37.30 | Deruu | What action do you use to run custom functions? |
| 09:37.43 | liq3 | dorkass: eh? |
| 09:37.49 | dorkass | eh! |
| 09:37.52 | omeg | Deruu: general-custom script |
| 09:37.52 | liq3 | dorkass: gfx wise yes. |
| 09:38.03 | liq3 | dorkass; what do you men aboeut wc3 maps? |
| 09:38.12 | dorkass | im tryin to make midieval lookin units |
| 09:38.17 | dorkass | or at least put a sword in a dudes hand |
| 09:38.34 | dorkass | medieval* |
| 09:39.03 | Deruu | Thanks, unfortunately I don't know the scripting language yet |
| 09:39.51 | liq3 | haah. |
| 09:39.52 | liq3 | :P |
| 09:40.13 | Xan | is there any way to make units cast shadows from custom lights? |
| 09:40.14 | Grum | you dont really have to know it tbh |
| 09:40.21 | dorkass | can't wait for wc4 oh man |
| 09:41.38 | Grum | i doubt they'll make that soon |
| 09:41.46 | Grum | or they'll simply make it in the sc2 engine ;D |
| 09:42.08 | dorkass | im fine with that |
| 09:42.43 | dorkass | i just want some fantasy models and weapons |
| 09:43.20 | Grum | feel free to create them :) |
| 09:43.26 | dorkass | maybe i just might |
| 09:43.29 | Grum | or .. import from wc3 when the time comes :) |
| 09:43.35 | dorkass | ^ |
| 09:43.59 | dorkass | i'm gonna freak everyone out when i make an exact replica of footman wars in sc2 |
| 09:45.43 | dorkass | i totally replaced all my minerals with trees, and the carry mineral buff is a carry tree graphic now |
| 09:45.53 | HyBReD | http://www.pgn-guild.com/random/Sanctum.jpg |
| 09:45.53 | HyBReD | :D |
| 09:46.00 | HyBReD | SPLAT |
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| 09:47.03 | dorkass | that rascal |
| 09:47.22 | liq3 | dorkass: use zealots as the footman. :P |
| 09:47.36 | dorkass | ima use them as berzerkers in my map |
| 09:47.43 | dorkass | entitled SPACE VIKINGS |
| 09:47.54 | dorkass | sike, that's not the name, that's just what it's about |
| 09:48.09 | liq3 | lol? |
| 09:48.15 | dorkass | dude it's about vikings in space |
| 09:48.28 | dorkass | they've got jetpacks and spaceships and shit, but they're still too dumb to use guns |
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| 09:48.57 | liq3 | :P |
| 09:49.04 | liq3 | thought you were gonna remake footmen. |
| 09:49.13 | dorkass | that was a lie i told to impress girls |
| 09:50.34 | DiNo29 | Space Vikings ? 3 vikings brother in space, you can control each of them alternatively ? Erik is fast, Baelog is strong, and Olaf is fat ? |
| 09:50.43 | Mojache | is that Picture in Picture Hybred? |
| 09:51.47 | dorkass | did anyone play too human? |
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| 09:54.06 | qwebirc31894 | hello |
| 09:54.15 | dorkass | hiarriah |
| 09:54.16 | Fooz | :O |
| 09:54.39 | Fooz | is there someone here that can help me with a little issue concerning map creating that I was unable to fix in the past 2 days :( ? |
| 09:54.49 | Grum | not unless you ask your question |
| 09:54.52 | dorkass | that's absurd |
| 09:54.59 | Fooz | :D |
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| 09:55.03 | Fooz | im trying to create a cliff |
| 09:55.09 | Volsky | Hey guy |
| 09:55.12 | Fooz | as ability / or maybe even trough a trigger |
| 09:55.13 | dorkass | check your horroscope |
| 09:55.16 | Volsky | can you guys help me out |
| 09:55.16 | HyBReD | yes Mojache |
| 09:55.23 | DiNo29 | woah |
| 09:55.23 | Fooz | is there a way to do that :O ? |
| 09:55.27 | HyBReD | for an extra view! |
| 09:55.27 | Mojache | is that built in or did you make it? |
| 09:55.31 | Grum | Fooz: errr a permanent one? O.o |
| 09:55.33 | HyBReD | i just finished it |
| 09:55.35 | Grum | or just a 'blocker' ? |
| 09:55.37 | HyBReD | made it myself |
| 09:55.46 | HyBReD | fun as hell to use |
| 09:55.46 | Fooz | a permanent one,w hich people can walk on |
| 09:55.46 | Volsky | I know im sounding like a total newb, but when I copy a unit, how do i fix not having an attack sound? |
| 09:55.51 | dorkass | you put picture in picture, in a map? |
| 09:56.03 | HyBReD | lol, no |
| 09:56.10 | Mojache | what triggers are you using to make it if you dont mind me asking |
| 09:56.11 | dorkass | oh, that would be too cool |
| 09:56.15 | HyBReD | http://www.pgn-guild.com/random/Sanctum.jpg |
| 09:56.16 | Mojache | that would make for a wicked kill cam |
| 09:56.20 | dorkass | yeah dude |
| 09:56.23 | DiNo29 | make what ? |
| 09:56.27 | dorkass | like comic book style zooming |
| 09:56.29 | DiNo29 | oh wow |
| 09:56.36 | Mojache | portrait camera? |
| 09:56.37 | Grum | didnt he just say he DIDNT do that ingame? |
| 09:56.46 | Mojache | oh |
| 09:56.59 | Volsky | I know im sounding like a total newb, but when I copy a unit, how do i fix not having an attack soun |
| 09:57.06 | dorkass | BUT the idea has been birthed |
| 09:57.08 | dorkass | the race is on |
| 09:57.11 | Grum | HyBReD: photoshop or a second camera ingame? |
| 09:57.22 | HyBReD | photoshop |
| 09:57.22 | HyBReD | t.t |
| 09:57.28 | Grum | solved ;D |
| 09:57.29 | Mojache | sadface |
| 09:57.30 | DiNo29 | volsky that's .... hard to explain D: |
| 09:57.34 | Mojache | I got exicited for a second there |
| 09:57.38 | DiNo29 | you have to duplicate the actors too, and then link them to the unit |
| 09:57.44 | Mojache | was gonna make a camera for when team mates die |
| 09:58.03 | HyBReD | its definietly possible |
| 09:58.10 | DiNo29 | or link them to the attack in the case of attack sound |
| 09:58.17 | Volsky | Well, I tryed adding the normal sounds from the orignal units to the sounds variable in the units actor, but nothing |
| 09:58.43 | DiNo29 | that's not the one sound |
| 09:58.53 | dorkass | Volsky you add sounds to the effect or behavior that the attack is using |
| 09:59.05 | Gohla | 15Mojache: you could use RTT (Render to texture) on a dialog? |
| 09:59.11 | Volsky | Ah, I see now, ill try that |
| 09:59.22 | dorkass | this shit is all nested like 3+ tiers |
| 09:59.28 | Mojache | or maybe a portrait camera |
| 09:59.38 | Fooz | but guys, can you help me please? is it possible to create a permanent cliff which units can walk on as ability? or even trough a trigger? |
| 09:59.44 | Gohla | yeah |
| 09:59.55 | Fooz | -_- how |
| 10:00.01 | Grum | the 'where units can walk on' is something that is probably not going to happen |
| 10:00.18 | DiNo29 | but you can create a visual cliff ? :l |
| 10:00.20 | Grum | for the same reason we dont have bridges atm |
| 10:00.27 | Grum | DiNo29: ofcourse |
| 10:00.28 | dorkass | what's the reason we don't have bridges? |
| 10:00.39 | Grum | that we dont have traversable doodads :) |
| 10:01.01 | Grum | sofar you can only 'disallow' pathing on an area, not allow an extra path on another level |
| 10:01.04 | dorkass | oh, you mean happen *yet* ? |
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| 10:01.14 | Grum | yes, not yet |
| 10:01.17 | Fooz | what if i make any unit an "air unit" |
| 10:01.22 | dorkass | there's a whole section for terrain objects that's empty atm |
| 10:01.23 | Fooz | when he is on the visual cliff? |
| 10:02.31 | DiNo29 | oh, right, yu don't even need too |
| 10:02.31 | Grum | dorkass: yeah *and* blizzard talked about caves |
| 10:02.31 | DiNo29 | when you make the cliff, move a region of the same size on top of it |
| 10:02.31 | Grum | so i think there will be traversable doodads eventually |
| 10:02.31 | dorkass | yeah no doubt |
| 10:02.31 | DiNo29 | and when an unit enter that region, use Unit - Change unit height |
| 10:02.39 | DiNo29 | and change it again when it exit the region |
| 10:02.40 | Grum | DiNo29: that will not solve the other pathing issues, units will behave differently than normal around that |
| 10:02.46 | Grum | a simple example, a collosus |
| 10:02.57 | Gohla | Does anyone know if the List Box dialog item auto sorts entries, and if it can be turned off? |
| 10:03.01 | DiNo29 | Collosus are gay, don't use them :D |
| 10:03.35 | Grum | reapers |
| 10:03.39 | Fooz | but how do i spawn the cliff i mean; you say make a cliff? how do i make a cliff like spawning an other building? |
| 10:03.39 | DiNo29 | or add "Play Cliff Climbing animation" when the unit enter the region |
| 10:03.56 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.06 | DiNo29 | yeah, ^^' |
| 10:04.11 | Grum | Fooz: look at the shields sentries can spawn |
| 10:04.15 | Fooz | ill give you a screenshot of my map |
| 10:04.15 | DiNo29 | if the unit run around the edge of the region that'll look retarded |
| 10:04.20 | Grum | make a similar mechanism but spawn a cliff that doesnt remove itself |
| 10:04.27 | DiNo29 | oh, maybe : |
| 10:04.29 | Grum | it means it will block the area but will not provide a way to walk on it |
| 10:04.49 | Grum | you could possibly even make it targetable (ea spawn a destructable doodad) |
| 10:05.04 | DiNo29 | when unit enter region, make unit uncommandable, order unit to move at the same angle for distance X, play cliff climbing animation :p |
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| 10:05.30 | Khristophoros | hi anyone around? |
| 10:05.54 | DiNo29 | (hide everyone !) |
| 10:06.23 | Bemoliph- | Terrain Objects may actually be the answer, if you can figure it out without a working example |
| 10:06.39 | Bemoliph- | The description of Terrain Objects in the editor is "Add special objects which replace the regular terrain" |
| 10:06.41 | Khristophoros | i just got sc2, and im just wondering where i can find the best documentation for the editor |
| 10:06.52 | DiNo29 | sc2mapster.com :p |
| 10:06.52 | Bemoliph- | Furthermore, there is also a type of Terrain Object which is based around cliffs |
| 10:07.36 | Bemoliph- | I would have to check to be sure, but I think I also saw some trigget stuff relating to Terrain Objects |
| 10:07.56 | Fooz | o |
| 10:08.08 | Fooz | http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3166/greenshot20100427120515.png |
| 10:08.10 | Fooz | this is the map :D |
| 10:08.23 | Grum | Bemoliph-: there are already terrain objects in the assets folder |
| 10:08.31 | Grum | just nothing that can show/position them as of yet |
| 10:09.03 | Grum | Fooz: you are making lemmings ingame? ;p |
| 10:09.14 | Grum | amagawd! another nice weapon to implement |
| 10:09.16 | Grum | shrinkray :p |
| 10:09.24 | Grum | in combination with stomping units |
| 10:09.36 | Fooz | lemmings :D? |
| 10:09.37 | Bemoliph- | Well, you could place them if you had one |
| 10:09.47 | Grum | Bemoliph-: well the models are ingame |
| 10:09.49 | Bemoliph- | Just I haven't noticed any default ones |
| 10:10.34 | Bemoliph- | Which makes it somewhat difficult to see how they actually work, even with the tooltips in the base object |
| 10:10.56 | Bemoliph- | But I think that's the place to look in the future, or right now if you want to try to figure them out |
| 10:11.11 | Grum | how they will work, you will have to 'cut away' terrain using the '3rd tool' |
| 10:11.12 | Skizot | dorkass if you touch footman wars i'll kill you :P |
| 10:11.20 | Grum | and then add one of those objects instead of it |
| 10:11.23 | Skizot | mines already DONE. |
| 10:11.36 | Grum | Skizot: what is footman wars? :( |
| 10:11.44 | dorkass | I'm not interested in footman wars |
| 10:11.57 | dorkass | I'm already on to zealot wars buddy |
| 10:12.04 | dorkass | it takes place in the future, with aliens |
| 10:12.08 | dorkass | and two swords |
| 10:12.13 | dorkass | progress. |
| 10:12.15 | Skizot | mine is all three races |
| 10:12.19 | Bemoliph- | By "work", I mean whether or not they can stand in for things like Cliffs |
| 10:12.23 | Skizot | so i have bugs and swords too |
| 10:12.25 | Bemoliph- | And actually function that way |
| 10:12.25 | dorkass | you really made one? |
| 10:12.29 | Skizot | yes, |
| 10:12.33 | dorkass | kudos |
| 10:12.39 | Skizot | no heros.. but yeah |
| 10:12.41 | dorkass | I'm busy with my space vikings and dragons map |
| 10:12.48 | dorkass | heros ruin that shit |
| 10:13.00 | dorkass | maybe add like 'special' units or mercs, but f heroes |
| 10:13.03 | Beider | New Video Tutorial Out: TD Tutorial Step 5: Advanced Towers & Text Tags - http://www.livestream.com/beider/video?clipId=pla_e743241f-1c16-4135-afb2-1067f07dd6cd |
| 10:13.13 | Skizot | there IS a merc. |
| 10:13.15 | Skizot | sort of. |
| 10:13.21 | Skizot | it's a detector blimp! |
| 10:13.37 | dorkass | nice, thanks beider |
| 10:15.17 | Grum | Beider: nice quality! you can read the text now :D |
| 10:15.45 | Beider | yeah I changed my resolution, better now :P |
| 10:16.07 | Khristophoros | so on sc2mapster.com API docs, there is a lot missing. is there any official documentation or anywhere i can find the missing stuff? |
| 10:16.14 | Grum | lower resolution -> better quality .. mm i guess the recording ahs a fixed bitrate orso? |
| 10:16.31 | Deruu | Beider, you don't happen to be Swedish? |
| 10:16.32 | Beider | yeah I have a limited bitrate |
| 10:16.35 | Beider | Norwegian |
| 10:16.51 | Deruu | Ahh, close enough. Sounded very Nordic :V |
| 10:17.19 | Beider | but i normally have 1900x1200 resolution, I had my streaming software change it to half. Now instead I dropped my res to 1100~x700~ and made it record in the real size |
| 10:17.48 | Grum | aaah yeah that explains beider |
| 10:17.55 | Grum | this is way way better |
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| 10:23.57 | Fooz | grum :O ability "Sentry Force Field" has Validator of CliffLevelGE1 |
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| 10:24.17 | Grum | Fooz: now the question is what that means |
| 10:24.27 | Grum | i think it simply means you cannot use it on the bottom of a ravine :) |
| 10:24.34 | Grum | but only on clifflevels 1,2,3 :) |
| 10:25.01 | Fooz | ye there is also cliff level equel |
| 10:25.19 | Fooz | probably that means only units on an equal clfif level can walk over it:o |
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| 10:43.00 | Skizot | http://i40.tinypic.com/34nhamh.jpg |
| 10:43.01 | Skizot | >_> |
| 10:43.10 | cube | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.11 | cube | â â |
| 10:47.03 | Beider | Maybe I should spend some time working on my own TD instead of just creating tutorials |
| 10:47.46 | Beider | Skizot: Why add the first person image of the marine in the low left? I know old FPS games did it but it was a reason it was removed, it just clutters the screen for no benefit |
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| 10:50.31 | dorkass | anyone know how to change the units armor type, or create new armor types? (not just change name of armor) |
| 10:51.40 | Grum | Skizot: hehe nice designing stuff |
| 10:52.01 | Grum | dorkass: what are the current armor types called? |
| 10:52.17 | Skizot | :) |
| 10:52.26 | Skizot | if there was a working BRIDGE |
| 10:52.33 | Skizot | i could keep going :( |
| 10:52.44 | Grum | ;( |
| 10:52.48 | Skizot | that and i need to get my stupid bullet looking right. |
| 10:52.50 | dorkass | i dunno what you mean, i just want to make it so that different protoss ground units don't all have the same armor name, for example |
| 10:53.01 | dorkass | just like they can have different weapons per unit |
| 10:53.12 | Mojache | not flying straight? |
| 10:53.12 | Grum | dorkass: so what is the current armor name? :d |
| 10:53.18 | HyBReD | UH OH GAIZ |
| 10:53.20 | dorkass | Space Leather Armor.. |
| 10:53.21 | HyBReD | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-show-room/538-galaxy-editor-tech-demo-version-1/#p7 |
| 10:53.27 | HyBReD | RUN ! !! |
| 10:53.35 | Skizot | and it it possible to set a sky? |
| 10:54.17 | dorkass | or protoss ground shield, something like that |
| 10:56.00 | Mojache | no PIP no care Hybred! |
| 10:56.38 | Mojache | I like how sometimes triggers break |
| 10:56.41 | Mojache | but arent broken |
| 10:56.46 | Mojache | and you need to close and reopen the map |
| 10:56.47 | Mojache | to fix it |
| 10:57.35 | Grum | HyBReD: with that burststrike you could also build chainlightning? |
| 10:57.41 | Grum | or chain-anything |
| 10:58.54 | Skizot | UGH |
| 10:59.06 | Skizot | are ALL the skyboxes planets?? |
| 10:59.54 | DiNo29 | hmmm |
| 10:59.57 | Beider | that burststrike looks damn cool |
| 11:00.00 | DiNo29 | burst strike is triggered :( |
| 11:01.15 | Mojache | oookaayyy |
| 11:01.19 | Mojache | who wants to see the new map |
| 11:01.28 | Beider | I do :P |
| 11:01.36 | DiNo29 | the smashtv-like one ? :D |
| 11:02.36 | Mojache | yeah |
| 11:02.47 | Mojache | we were doing 3 players today |
| 11:02.47 | DiNo29 | me me |
| 11:02.52 | Mojache | on the hardest difficulty |
| 11:02.53 | Beider | Mojache: btw, you the guy behind unforgotten realms? The voice in your map sounded like sir schmoopy |
| 11:02.57 | Mojache | and couldn't beat it |
| 11:02.59 | Mojache | yup |
| 11:03.07 | Khristophoros | hrmm... my SC2 finished patching but i dont appear to have the editor, anyone help? |
| 11:03.20 | Beider | neat, good work on that. UR is funny |
| 11:03.20 | dorkass | nm i figured out you just have to create a new key for every new armor name |
| 11:03.28 | DiNo29 | program files\sc2 beta\Starcraft II Editor.exe |
| 11:03.45 | Mojache | http://www.livestream.com/sc2mojache?t=806330 |
| 11:03.47 | Mojache | brb water |
| 11:03.49 | Khristophoros | oh silly me thanks |
| 11:04.24 | DiNo29 | btw Mojache |
| 11:04.55 | DiNo29 | did you find a way to imports custom sounds into your map, or did you modify your game or stream to play different sounds ? |
| 11:05.22 | DiNo29 | lol, just when asking that I see "Import" window on your stream |
| 11:05.25 | DiNo29 | how do you open that ? ^^ |
| 11:05.59 | DiNo29 | found it |
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| 11:06.33 | Grum | Mojache: lal you are doing your own voices? ^^ |
| 11:06.40 | Beider | whats up with that voice :P |
| 11:06.43 | HaVoC373 | hi |
| 11:06.48 | Grum | 'WTFBBQ' :p |
| 11:07.27 | Grum | Mojache: stop those that insane stuff haha you make us all look bad ;( |
| 11:08.34 | HaVoC373 | does anyone know where i can modify the attack range of units? been looking around in the data editor and cant seem to find it. |
| 11:09.00 | HaVoC373 | what atribute am i looking for? |
| 11:10.15 | DiNo29 | hey, I didn't like the voices at first, but with the soundtrack and all it does sounds good |
| 11:11.08 | Kam | HaVoC373: modify the "Range" on the weapon not on a unit |
| 11:11.13 | Skizot | Mojache, you ever fix the bullets? |
| 11:11.21 | HaVoC373 | k thanks |
| 11:11.31 | Skizot | banelings.. and stupid ad |
| 11:12.47 | Skizot | i missed all that |
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| 11:13.21 | Skizot | side scroller :( |
| 11:14.01 | Habladabla | hello could anyone help me with a trigger/event? In particular, I want to have a certain trigger start happening each 60 sec(lets say unit spawn) but only AFTER an unit has entered a point/region, not from the game start |
| 11:15.17 | Beider | Mojache: Are those weapons trigger based or actual effects set up? |
| 11:15.42 | Skizot | that's easy Habladabla |
| 11:16.33 | HaVoC373 | First create a trigger that using the Unit enters/leaves point event and make that activate another trigger with the even timer periodic event |
| 11:16.45 | Grum | LOL Mojache ... 'Randomizer...oh this kinda sucks' :p |
| 11:16.55 | DiNo29 | hmmm |
| 11:17.01 | DiNo29 | Anyone played with Imports |
| 11:17.15 | DiNo29 | I imported an mp3 but I don't see how to create a sound using it |
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| 11:19.01 | Habladabla | lol it was THAT easy, thanks a lot |
| 11:19.11 | HaVoC373 | np |
| 11:19.14 | Habladabla | I missed the run trigger command under actions |
| 11:19.17 | Habladabla | :P |
| 11:19.46 | Skizot | pm |
| 11:20.32 | Skizot | dino |
| 11:20.49 | DiNo29 | hmm |
| 11:21.13 | DiNo29 | where ? xD |
| 11:21.35 | Skizot | oh i didn't pm you. |
| 11:21.36 | Skizot | :P |
| 11:21.40 | Skizot | BUT |
| 11:21.55 | Skizot | did you make a new sound object in the data editor? |
| 11:22.03 | DiNo29 | yeah |
| 11:22.05 | Skizot | with it's asset pointing to your file? |
| 11:22.13 | DiNo29 | and then I try to go to Sounds Asset + |
| 11:22.17 | DiNo29 | but my file isnt there :o |
| 11:22.19 | Skizot | oh |
| 11:22.22 | Skizot | open import |
| 11:22.25 | Skizot | file > save |
| 11:22.30 | Skizot | go back to data editor |
| 11:22.34 | Skizot | it's fucking retarded |
| 11:23.05 | DiNo29 | oh right |
| 11:23.05 | DiNo29 | lol |
| 11:25.54 | Grum | Mojache: maybe it just has it cached somewhere? :/ |
| 11:26.24 | Skizot | Mojache, in the importer |
| 11:26.25 | DiNo29 | what the |
| 11:26.28 | DiNo29 | now I can't save my map anymore |
| 11:26.29 | Skizot | remove the file first |
| 11:26.36 | Skizot | then re add the file |
| 11:26.38 | Skizot | then save! |
| 11:26.42 | Grum | Mojache: do report bug ! ;D |
| 11:26.45 | DiNo29 | says it's useb by another process |
| 11:26.55 | DiNo29 | used* |
| 11:27.18 | Grum | Mojache: i'll buy the ammo kk? |
| 11:29.57 | DiNo29 | haha triple |
| 11:30.28 | Skizot | no game over? |
| 11:30.29 | Skizot | lol |
| 11:37.57 | Skizot | maurader! |
| 11:38.25 | PixelWarrior | is there a way to follow a unit with an offset? |
| 11:38.35 | PixelWarrior | (camera follow) |
| 11:38.56 | Mojache | point with offset |
| 11:39.00 | Mojache | make the point the unit |
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| 11:40.06 | PixelWarrior | k trying |
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| 11:40.09 | Skizot | concussive shells! |
| 11:40.14 | Skizot | Mojache |
| 11:40.34 | Skizot | yup. |
| 11:40.41 | Skizot | no.. that's silly |
| 11:40.56 | Skizot | concussive shells would allow them to Unfreeze without a trigger |
| 11:40.57 | DiNo29 | you could also use Thor's stun |
| 11:41.09 | qwebirc37346 | Which is more efficient in a UMS map, Using regions to spawn NPC bases, or placing them? |
| 11:41.11 | Skizot | set the stun to massive damage |
| 11:41.34 | DiNo29 | yeah 5 or 6, don't remember |
| 11:42.42 | PixelWarrior | mojache: i cant create point with offset |
| 11:43.28 | DiNo29 | Thor's stun use those Modifications + : Disable Abilities, Supress Movement, Supress Turning |
| 11:43.31 | webirc1 | Is there a list of mapping techniques to increase the efficiency of a map? |
| 11:43.43 | DiNo29 | but strange yeah, the duration on the beahavior is set to 10 |
| 11:43.43 | Mojache | what do you man by an offset |
| 11:43.47 | Mojache | you mean |
| 11:43.50 | Mojache | offset the camera? |
| 11:43.58 | PixelWarrior | like i want the camera to follow a unit |
| 11:44.04 | PixelWarrior | but not dead centre on that uni |
| 11:44.07 | Mojache | you have to change the camera properties |
| 11:44.25 | PixelWarrior | i want it to look a bit infront |
| 11:44.27 | Mojache | Apply Camera object |
| 11:44.29 | DiNo29 | creating a point with Point with Offset (X,Y) works for me |
| 11:44.35 | Mojache | oh you mean |
| 11:44.38 | Mojache | first person like view? |
| 11:44.53 | Mojache | I'm sure there is a way but I have yet to try to figure that one out |
| 11:44.56 | PixelWarrior | no no |
| 11:45.00 | PixelWarrior | its a top down |
| 11:45.01 | Mojache | letting someone else tackle it since camera control is BS |
| 11:45.19 | Mojache | oh um |
| 11:45.24 | Mojache | have it look at an invisible unit |
| 11:45.25 | DiNo29 | hmm, I think I got it on Thor's stun |
| 11:45.31 | Mojache | make that unit constantly teleporting |
| 11:45.32 | PixelWarrior | mm good idea |
| 11:45.36 | Mojache | to an offset of your main unit |
| 11:45.40 | DiNo29 | behavior last 10 seconds but there's a 2s Cast Start Time and a 2s Finish Time on the ability |
| 11:45.42 | DiNo29 | so that's 6s |
| 11:45.45 | DiNo29 | I guess |
| 11:46.18 | PixelWarrior | mojache! that just gave me an idea! |
| 11:46.58 | DiNo29 | yeah, Modification + : Disable Abilities, Supress Movement, Supress Turning |
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| 11:47.57 | volsky | Guys where do I find the place to edit response sounds , like when I click on a unit, how can I edit what it says? |
| 11:48.09 | volsky | or replace the file |
| 11:48.12 | volsky | sound file |
| 11:49.27 | webirc1 | Unit -> Sounds -> Sound assets field? |
| 11:51.12 | DiNo29 | yeah, weapons can apply behaviors, look at marauders concussive shell :p |
| 11:51.57 | DiNo29 | Instead of the damage effect, the weapon use a Set effect, and the Set effect apply both the damage effect and the apply behavior effect |
| 11:52.53 | DiNo29 | what, what field fif you change ? I think it was the wrong one :o |
| 11:53.27 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/multiplayer-contest-bob-cinematic-ladik-mpq-editor/ |
| 11:53.33 | DiNo29 | (None) - Damage display effect is just for the art I think, for the actual effect you have to change (None) - Effect |
| 11:56.16 | dorkass | yeah it just picks which effect to pull the damage tooltip from |
| 11:56.38 | dorkass | in case the weapon youre using is using complicated effects instead of just doing striaght damage on contact |
| 11:57.51 | DiNo29 | oh that's what it does, useful |
| 11:58.58 | DiNo29 | strange how you can import any file type on your map, even ones GE can't use at all |
| 12:00.09 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfeg1sjQjoY&feature=player_embedded another machima by Ian Beckman |
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| 12:01.12 | webirc1 | What's the best way to keep the attributes of the original unit in a custom unit? |
| 12:01.26 | Hati | just edit what you want |
| 12:01.32 | Hati | you will get a extra copy of the unit |
| 12:01.41 | Hati | in your map with the modifications you made |
| 12:01.49 | DiNo29 | hmmm |
| 12:01.58 | webirc1 | Okay, how do I remove abilities from a standard unit? |
| 12:01.59 | DiNo29 | can you set a keyboard shorcut for an ability in the data editor ? |
| 12:02.06 | Hati | yea |
| 12:02.10 | Hati | in Buttons |
| 12:02.13 | Hati | of Data Editor |
| 12:02.15 | webirc1 | I believe you can DiNo29 |
| 12:02.18 | DiNo29 | webirc1 : Data Editor -> Units -> Remove it from Command Cart and Abilities+ |
| 12:02.21 | DiNo29 | thanks Hati :) |
| 12:02.26 | webirc1 | Thanks DiNo29 |
| 12:02.49 | PixelWarrior | mojache: how to make invisible unit? |
| 12:02.57 | Mojache | scale it to 1% |
| 12:03.00 | Mojache | or 0% |
| 12:03.03 | PixelWarrior | where to find scale |
| 12:03.06 | PixelWarrior | i cant find |
| 12:03.10 | Mojache | set unit scale |
| 12:03.11 | PixelWarrior | is it in models? |
| 12:03.12 | Hati | actors |
| 12:03.15 | PixelWarrior | actos |
| 12:03.16 | PixelWarrior | oh |
| 12:03.29 | Hati | in model theres too |
| 12:03.49 | Hati | but it will count for all units that use the model |
| 12:04.00 | Hati | in actors it only counts for the unit uses the actor |
| 12:04.39 | webirc1 | DiNo29: When you edit a standard unit and get a copy, for all intents and purposes the copy is the only one available and the original serves only as a backup? |
| 12:04.45 | PixelWarrior | hmm weird |
| 12:04.47 | PixelWarrior | its not working |
| 12:04.58 | Beider | is making a unit movement and 3rd person camera tutorial, pain in the arse |
| 12:05.03 | Hati | PixelWarrior: ? |
| 12:05.04 | DiNo29 | hmmm |
| 12:05.14 | DiNo29 | What's (None) - Marker+ ? |
| 12:05.19 | PixelWarrior | i made it 0 and its still showing up |
| 12:05.22 | DiNo29 | I changed it on one of my effects for some reason but can't remember why |
| 12:05.30 | Hati | because 0 is not valid ... |
| 12:05.32 | Motive | I think I've gone insane. |
| 12:05.36 | Hati | 0.01 |
| 12:05.45 | Motive | 3 hours of sleep and I'm back awake and blasting Lady GaGa and working on SC2. |
| 12:05.46 | Motive | ;D |
| 12:06.20 | PixelWarrior | YES! |
| 12:06.23 | PixelWarrior | awesome |
| 12:07.02 | inSync | Hey everyone =) |
| 12:07.05 | inSync | hows things going. |
| 12:07.10 | Motive | He ate my heart, he a-a-ate my heart, he ate my heart... |
| 12:07.11 | Motive | oh god. |
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| 12:08.11 | webirc1 | Does anyone know how to make an upgrade innate? |
| 12:08.25 | Skizot | yo Mojache |
| 12:08.30 | Skizot | what did you need? |
| 12:08.36 | Hati | webirc1: what you mean by initiate? |
| 12:08.38 | DiNo29 | ... I thought using a search area effect, and putting a effect in Area+ would apply the effect in the area, doesnt it ? D: |
| 12:08.50 | Hati | innate* |
| 12:08.56 | Motive | I think he means passive abilities. |
| 12:09.00 | webirc1 | Hati: Standard, not needing to upgrade |
| 12:09.08 | webirc1 | or passive, yeah |
| 12:09.13 | Hati | hmm |
| 12:09.17 | webirc1 | for example, zergling speed upgrade |
| 12:09.18 | Hati | set the requirement so nothing? |
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| 12:09.28 | Hati | haven't tried yet |
| 12:09.35 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Hati] by vjeux |
| 12:09.50 | DiNo29 | hmm, it does, I must have a wrong exclude somewhere :( |
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| 12:10.43 | vjeux | hey guys |
| 12:10.46 | vjeux | hope you like the latest news |
| 12:11.34 | Cerebral_ | on mapster? |
| 12:11.44 | DiNo29 | the "big news" is here ? |
| 12:11.51 | vjeux | not yet |
| 12:11.55 | DiNo29 | D: |
| 12:11.57 | vjeux | should be within the week |
| 12:12.00 | Motive | I'm excited about the map editor part. :) |
| 12:12.06 | Motive | Been waiting for a tool that could do that for a while now. |
| 12:12.06 | Tokoji | yeah, I like it |
| 12:12.08 | DiNo29 | eh, you said that last week |
| 12:12.08 | PixelWarrior | wats the news? |
| 12:12.10 | DiNo29 | vapornews, I say |
| 12:12.10 | Motive | Err MPQ editor* |
| 12:12.11 | Tokoji | and made by French :D |
| 12:12.16 | Cerebral_ | cool |
| 12:12.20 | Motive | Will save me a lot of time in the future. |
| 12:12.22 | Mojache | lol |
| 12:12.30 | Mojache | i like how we had to make a patcher |
| 12:12.33 | Mojache | for "copy and paste" |
| 12:12.34 | Mojache | jaja |
| 12:12.36 | Mojache | haha |
| 12:12.41 | Motive | Hey, copy and paste is hard. |
| 12:12.42 | Tokoji | but it saves time |
| 12:12.45 | Mojache | oh well eaiser then explaining it |
| 12:12.50 | Tokoji | players are lazy |
| 12:12.50 | Mojache | nah it doesn't save time lol |
| 12:13.06 | vjeux | well, it's better to have a little program that tells you what to do |
| 12:13.07 | Mojache | i have had that folder open for arin high wastes |
| 12:13.12 | Mojache | since like day one of the patcher |
| 12:13.13 | Mojache | ;p |
| 12:13.16 | Mojache | yeah |
| 12:13.16 | vjeux | than copy & paste some random hash names :p |
| 12:13.41 | vjeux | it's intended to be used by anyone |
| 12:16.16 | DiNo29 | gaaah T_T |
| 12:16.22 | DiNo29 | I copied a target unit ability |
| 12:16.27 | DiNo29 | and now for some reason it can target ground too |
| 12:16.40 | Grum | vjeux: wtb the 'real big news'! :D |
| 12:16.51 | DiNo29 | yeah, come on, give us an hint :D |
| 12:17.32 | webirc1 | it must be cookies |
| 12:17.47 | Motive | The big news is that the big news was a lie. |
| 12:17.51 | Grum | pfft i already said what it is! but vjeux is stuck with slack people! :D |
| 12:17.52 | Motive | :O |
| 12:17.55 | Grum | whip them harder vjeux! |
| 12:18.17 | Mojache | ill be streaming for the next couple hours btw vjeux |
| 12:18.46 | Mojache | we were going to make a trailer last night |
| 12:18.57 | Mojache | but then decided to overhaul the movement system |
| 12:19.09 | Mojache | and then after litteraly 8 hours of redoing all the code to work a bunch of different ways |
| 12:19.16 | Mojache | decided the orignal way was still the most fun |
| 12:19.18 | Mojache | kinda sucked |
| 12:19.40 | PixelWarrior | movement system? |
| 12:19.59 | Mojache | yeah were converting moving to more camera based stuff |
| 12:20.02 | Mojache | didnt like it |
| 12:20.12 | Mojache | and mouse control on guns is impossible |
| 12:20.15 | Mojache | unless you like clicking |
| 12:20.17 | Mojache | which I dont |
| 12:20.22 | PixelWarrior | yeah |
| 12:20.31 | Mojache | can only check for mouse position when its clicked |
| 12:21.06 | Grum | Mojache: usually UI elements can tell if a mouse is over it, maybe you can abuse that :p |
| 12:21.23 | Mojache | that would be painful but I thought about it |
| 12:21.26 | Grum | cover the screen in tiny little invisible buttons reporting if the mouse is hovering over it =D |
| 12:21.30 | Mojache | i tried a simply 3 by 3 grid |
| 12:21.35 | Mojache | for just a general look and fool |
| 12:21.38 | Mojache | but man |
| 12:21.49 | Mojache | you would need to waste a ton of time for a "maybe" |
| 12:22.01 | Mojache | thats something I could overhaul at the end of the project |
| 12:22.07 | Mojache | maybe someone will come out with something else |
| 12:22.15 | DiNo29 | omg |
| 12:22.23 | DiNo29 | found out why my effect fail |
| 12:22.32 | DiNo29 | I put "Dead" as required instead of exclude in data filters T_T |
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| 12:24.01 | Saladom | hello |
| 12:29.24 | DiNo29 | hey |
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| 12:31.47 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starkura/. Starkura. PixelWarrior (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 12:32.03 | Saladom | new map. |
| 12:32.07 | HaVoC373 | does anyone know where the artibutes for hanging a thor underneath a medivac are? i'm trying to transplant that ability to a battlecruiser so far no luck |
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| 12:32.39 | webirc1 | So for the upgrades like the marine riot shield, to make them innate do I have to manually do it or through triggers or something? |
| 12:32.40 | DiNo29 | huu |
| 12:32.52 | DiNo29 | having a battlecruiser transport a thor ? |
| 12:32.56 | DiNo29 | give it the cargo ability I guess |
| 12:33.09 | webirc1 | doesn't work DiNo29, the effect is for the medivac only |
| 12:33.12 | HaVoC373 | already did that it just loads it like normal units |
| 12:33.26 | DiNo29 | oh, the visual effect |
| 12:33.27 | DiNo29 | hmmm |
| 12:33.39 | Dremora_ | Im attaching actors to units via triggers, but the actors arent sticking with the unit when they move...any idea why? |
| 12:35.19 | Motive | Someone else had a similar problem last night. |
| 12:35.28 | HaVoC373 | nvr mind found it in events |
| 12:35.30 | Motive | They weren't able to find a solution using triggers, though they did find one in the unit editor, iirc. |
| 12:40.08 | Dremora_ | thanks |
| 12:40.16 | DiNo29 | hey, my data editor-only chain lightning is beginning to work :p |
| 12:40.38 | Skizot | lol |
| 12:40.50 | Skizot | when you get it done let me know. |
| 12:40.54 | Habladabla | hmmm guys, I use the "last created cargo unit" as the triggering unit and I want it to be the only one that triggers events, yet all units trigger stuff. |
| 12:41.04 | DiNo29 | I got an effect jumping damages from one unit to another, several times |
| 12:41.22 | Skizot | do me a favor... |
| 12:41.30 | DiNo29 | only remaining problem is that it can go back to a previous unit (not the one just before, but one even before) |
| 12:41.32 | Skizot | try to "data editor only" a missle. |
| 12:42.04 | Skizot | can't add a "unit not having buff" or something similar? |
| 12:42.16 | DiNo29 | oh, good idea |
| 12:42.22 | DiNo29 | wow, wtf |
| 12:42.37 | DiNo29 | you can only have 2 entires in Data - Exclude + :| |
| 12:42.38 | DiNo29 | strange |
| 12:42.41 | DiNo29 | entries* |
| 12:43.20 | DiNo29 | well, a "unit not having buff" validator would be nice, but it doesn't seem like you can exclude an unit from the area search because of a validator :( |
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| 12:51.03 | DiNo29 | What's "Outer" in exclude+ ? |
| 12:51.56 | Dustin | Hi guys |
| 12:53.45 | Skizot | DAMMIT |
| 12:54.02 | Skizot | dino you are getting heavy in the DE |
| 12:54.16 | Skizot | is it possssible to remove the "flee if attacked" ai function? |
| 12:54.41 | Skizot | i don't want ym unit to run PERIOD unless i tell him to. |
| 12:55.05 | vjeux | that's the aggression or something |
| 12:55.10 | vjeux | Defensive, Offensive, ... |
| 12:55.24 | vjeux | set to Neutral |
| 12:55.24 | DiNo29 | maybe in your effect : (none) - Response Flags : uncheck "Flee" |
| 12:55.58 | Skizot | he is nuetral.. that's why he fless Xd |
| 12:56.25 | DiNo29 | try response flag, don't forget to do it for every effect of your ability/attack |
| 12:56.45 | vjeux | set to offensive then :p |
| 12:57.08 | Skizot | abilities - response on the marine himself.. |
| 12:57.11 | Skizot | god please work. |
| 12:57.21 | DiNo29 | any idea what (None) - Marker + does in effect ? |
| 13:00.21 | Skizot | other than my leaderboard not working... THIS IS AWESOME... |
| 13:00.38 | Dustin | Stop breaking shit Skizot |
| 13:00.47 | Skizot | shush you. |
| 13:00.50 | Dustin | ;) |
| 13:00.57 | Dustin | SIXEN |
| 13:01.02 | Dustin | Wake up noob! |
| 13:01.14 | vjeux | hey Dustin |
| 13:01.46 | Dustin | Heya! |
| 13:02.01 | Dustin | how you doing vjeux? |
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| 13:02.50 | vjeux | fine :) |
| 13:02.56 | Dustin | good! |
| 13:02.58 | vjeux | newsing takes too much time |
| 13:03.03 | vjeux | need to start mapping :p |
| 13:03.06 | Dustin | hehe |
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| 13:03.10 | Dustin | I got ya covered |
| 13:04.20 | vjeux | mapster is going really well |
| 13:04.26 | vjeux | I thought there would be a spike and then the traffic went down |
| 13:04.32 | vjeux | but it keeps increasing everyday! |
| 13:04.42 | Dustin | Ya, people love this shit |
| 13:04.49 | Dustin | and it's only gonna get bigger when the game releases |
| 13:04.59 | Saladom | hello. |
| 13:05.35 | Saladom | how can I use to search a map in the site? |
| 13:05.55 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/ |
| 13:05.59 | vjeux | click the Filter button |
| 13:06.04 | vjeux | and then you can search through maps |
| 13:06.17 | vjeux | however we are going to come up with a better solution real quick (within the week) |
| 13:06.59 | Saladom | oh. thank you, vjeux. |
| 13:07.07 | Saladom | I found it. |
| 13:08.18 | DiNo29 | wtf |
| 13:08.22 | DiNo29 | my validator doesnt work T_T |
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| 13:11.22 | Darkpara | anyone know if it's possible to make upgrades whitch increese in cost for exp lvl x of upgrade cost x*10 minerals?, in the data i have only found a fix value for a upgrade cost |
| 13:12.25 | Dustin | I dotn think you can use lvl in that way |
| 13:12.38 | Dustin | I think you might be able to set an upgrade cost with triggers though |
| 13:12.45 | Dustin | Not for certain |
| 13:13.20 | Darkpara | hm y i will try if i find something :D |
| 13:13.30 | Dustin | If nothing else |
| 13:13.35 | Dustin | You can code your own Upgrade system |
| 13:14.20 | Darkpara | with the galaxy script language? |
| 13:14.26 | DiNo29 | so, I have this validator, type unit compare behavior count : BuffName NotEqualTo 1. Then, I have an area search effect, with Data - Validators : myValidator. But unit with the BuffName buff still get picked in the area search ! |
| 13:14.29 | DiNo29 | any idea why ? :( |
| 13:14.38 | Saladom | it's inconvenienet to fix the value of an upgrade. |
| 13:14.42 | Dustin | Darkpara, you can use Galaxy or even GUI |
| 13:14.51 | Dustin | It'd be pretty simple in both |
| 13:15.07 | Beider | New Video Tutorial Out: WSAD Movement (Strafing) - http://www.livestream.com/beider/video?clipId=pla_602640a4-5576-4759-af30-80822cd4d56a |
| 13:15.50 | DiNo29 | no ? :( |
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| 13:17.53 | Saladom | there is a lot of maps have the WASD movement sytem. |
| 13:18.28 | DiNo29 | ok, got it, it's reversed. The effect isnt applied if the validator = true :o |
| 13:18.45 | Beider | Saladom: Yet it seems to be the second most requested tutorial out there |
| 13:18.55 | Beider | Top one being 3rd person camera |
| 13:19.59 | PixelWarrior | can we download livestream vids? |
| 13:20.36 | Beider | don't think so, but I got them all on my comp |
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| 13:20.40 | Beider | I could put them up somewhere maybe |
| 13:20.45 | Beider | I could put them in my dropbox |
| 13:20.54 | PixelWarrior | that would be great! |
| 13:21.03 | Beider | But eventually I will run out of space there |
| 13:21.12 | PixelWarrior | how big are the videos? |
| 13:21.17 | PixelWarrior | and in what format? |
| 13:21.29 | Beider | varuesm around 100 mb for most |
| 13:21.32 | Beider | varies though |
| 13:21.38 | Beider | flv format |
| 13:22.08 | Beider | any video in particular you wanted? |
| 13:22.40 | PixelWarrior | just the tutorial ones |
| 13:22.59 | PixelWarrior | only coz i find livestream's streaming a little annoying |
| 13:24.21 | DiNo29 | damn, recycle count doesnt do what I hoped :( |
| 13:24.33 | HaVoC373 | beirder i cant seem to download your finished map? the link in the video isnt working |
| 13:24.41 | Beider | hmm |
| 13:24.55 | SCMapper | Just found out banks dont encrypt their data >.> |
| 13:25.03 | HaVoC373 | wait nvr mind i mistyped |
| 13:25.04 | DiNo29 | lol |
| 13:25.08 | Beider | HaVoC373: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1586398/Tutorials/WSADMovment/MovementTutorial-01.SC2Map |
| 13:25.13 | SCMapper | That is gonna be a huge pain in the ass |
| 13:25.19 | HaVoC373 | thanks |
| 13:25.39 | PixelWarrior | scmapper: yeah they said that, we can always make a plugin to make the game do some simple sha1 encrytion |
| 13:25.48 | HaVoC373 | damnit i just borke my transport ability on my battlecruiser |
| 13:25.53 | HaVoC373 | and i dont know what i did :( |
| 13:26.11 | HaVoC373 | broke* |
| 13:27.50 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/micro-run-v2/. Micro Run v2. Kharanlol (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 13:27.55 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mittsies-psi-defense-v1-0/. Mittsies' Psi-Defense. Mittsies (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 13:27.55 | DiNo29 | :( |
| 13:28.16 | DiNo29 | Any idea on how to exclude units from an Area+ search with a validator without ruining the count ? |
| 13:30.58 | Hati|NotHere | do the validator on the effect triggered by the Area+ |
| 13:31.02 | dorkass | does anyone wanna play some 2v2 melee's? |
| 13:31.07 | dorkass | ranked |
| 13:31.15 | DiNo29 | hati : it works but |
| 13:31.17 | Dustin | Gotta go to work in 30 :( |
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| 13:31.29 | DiNo29 | My area+ only pick one unit (count) |
| 13:31.38 | DiNo29 | and only then check for the validator |
| 13:31.44 | Hati | oO |
| 13:31.48 | DiNo29 | so if it picked the wrong unit, the effect happen on 0 unit |
| 13:32.09 | Hati | why you use an area effect if it just does on 1 unit ... ? |
| 13:32.21 | DiNo29 | to find that 1 unit ... |
| 13:33.06 | DiNo29 | are the things in Data Filters (Air, Cloaked, Dead ...) in the data editor, can you edit them ? |
| 13:34.01 | Hati | i still don't get what you are trying to do ... |
| 13:34.19 | DiNo29 | well |
| 13:34.30 | DiNo29 | I'm making dataeditor chain lightning |
| 13:34.46 | DiNo29 | so I do a bunch of Area Search that find the next unit from the previously hit unit |
| 13:34.53 | DiNo29 | and it works, my lightning bounce alright |
| 13:35.07 | DiNo29 | my problem is that sometime, it bounce back to a previous unit |
| 13:35.17 | DiNo29 | I want every previous units to be excluded from the search |
| 13:35.38 | DiNo29 | I managed to exclude the previous one, but not the ones before |
| 13:36.10 | DiNo29 | so I made a "hit by chain lightning" buff, and a Validator which check if the unit has that buff |
| 13:36.29 | DiNo29 | problem is, it checks after the area search, so if it pick an unit already hit, the chain end |
| 13:37.33 | DiNo29 | area search's Data Filter field would works fine for that, if you can edit the things in it... |
| 13:38.18 | Hati | dunno what you mean |
| 13:38.24 | Hati | there are validators for Area effects |
| 13:38.29 | Hati | FieldTank - Impulse Cannon Area |
| 13:38.29 | Hati | Validators |
| 13:38.52 | DiNo29 | yeah, but the problem is, the count still raise |
| 13:39.15 | Hati | what count oO |
| 13:39.20 | DiNo29 | from Area+ |
| 13:39.32 | DiNo29 | you can put a count here, to decides the number of units picked in that area |
| 13:39.40 | Hati | yea |
| 13:39.44 | DiNo29 | I put 1, cause I want my lightning to bounce on 1 unit at a time |
| 13:40.08 | DiNo29 | well, when I put a validator, it try to pick an unit, filter it out because it's against the validator, and then stop cause it tried to pick one unit, count is reached |
| 13:40.09 | Hati | what is your validator? |
| 13:40.25 | DiNo29 | Unit doens't have "hit by chain lightning" buff |
| 13:40.38 | Hati | how long last the buff ? |
| 13:40.48 | DiNo29 | 2s for now |
| 13:40.50 | Skizot | oh god |
| 13:40.55 | Hati | is the buff applied correctly ? |
| 13:41.10 | DiNo29 | yeah : without the validator, my lightning jump 4 times, and with it, only once. |
| 13:41.26 | Skizot | OH |
| 13:41.31 | DiNo29 | cause it jump once, then try to jump back to the previous unit and fail cause it has the buff |
| 13:41.36 | Skizot | it's reading the first unit and not jumping because he has it. |
| 13:41.45 | DiNo29 | yeah, it only read one unit, that's the problem :( |
| 13:42.08 | DiNo29 | whereas when you put stuff in data filters, it doesnt read them at all, so there isn't that problem |
| 13:42.25 | Hati | uhm |
| 13:42.29 | DiNo29 | (IE I excluded my units in data filters and it doesnt stop cause it try to jump on them) |
| 13:42.41 | Hati | so you problem is |
| 13:42.49 | Grum | Cant you attach an region (circle shaped) to the location of the chain and then find every unit within the region and connect to the first without a buff ? |
| 13:42.50 | Skizot | can you have it apply the hit buff like 1 second after it hits? |
| 13:42.52 | Hati | the search is targeting back the already targeted one |
| 13:42.54 | Skizot | or when it jumps? |
| 13:42.54 | Hati | and then ends |
| 13:42.57 | Hati | because it does not applies |
| 13:43.04 | DiNo29 | yeah hati |
| 13:43.12 | Hati | tried to set the Target Sort thingy? |
| 13:43.15 | Hati | to random |
| 13:43.20 | DiNo29 | Grum : my goal is to make the spell 100% without trigger :p |
| 13:43.22 | Hati | should be range by default |
| 13:43.25 | Hati | or nothing |
| 13:43.37 | DiNo29 | yeah but sometimes it will continu and sometimes it won't |
| 13:43.44 | DiNo29 | depends on what unit it randomly pick |
| 13:44.11 | Grum | hmmm HyBReD did a proof of concept map where a unit has an attack which causes it to teleport to nearby units |
| 13:44.22 | Hati | hmm |
| 13:44.26 | Grum | i have no idea if it was implemented using triggers or not but that seems to be what you might be looking for |
| 13:44.31 | Darkpara | anyone can explain me how to hide a upgrade icon in a building after it reaches his max level value? (the max level value work, if i set it to 5 i can only get 5 times the upgrade, but i can click again and again without it upgrade BUT it cost every click minerals^^) |
| 13:44.32 | DiNo29 | yeah I checked it, but it's trigerred, and the unit can attack the same unit several times I think |
| 13:44.35 | Grum | tech demo, not proof of concept |
| 13:44.38 | Hati | set minimum count to 1 ? |
| 13:45.09 | DiNo29 | yeah I tried, it doesnt change anything, I also tried to set Recycle count to 10 thinking that it meant it would try to pick again until minimum count is reached, but it doesnt change anything either |
| 13:45.32 | Grum | DiNo29: is there any way to actually find another 'nearby' unit? :/ |
| 13:45.51 | DiNo29 | with area search ? Yeah, you can even find the closest unit if you want |
| 13:45.59 | HaVoC373 | combat-search radius |
| 13:46.47 | DiNo29 | so, those things : Air,Armored,Benign,Biological,Buried, ..... can't be edited ? |
| 13:46.59 | DiNo29 | basically unit attributes |
| 13:47.22 | DiNo29 | maybe they are somewhere in the data editor ? |
| 13:48.15 | Hati | increased marker count? |
| 13:48.34 | DiNo29 | what's that ? |
| 13:48.40 | Grum | DiNo29: they have to be editable somehow |
| 13:48.52 | Hati | you can add custom values to units via triggers |
| 13:49.04 | Saladom | how about refer the attack of mutalisk? |
| 13:49.36 | Hati | mutalisk bounces back |
| 13:49.43 | Hati | that's what he does not want |
| 13:49.59 | Saladom | someone made a chain lightning using the attack. |
| 13:50.15 | DiNo29 | hmm |
| 13:50.20 | Saladom | http://playxp.com/sc2/galaxy/view.php?article_id=1946218&search=2&search_pos=&q= |
| 13:51.39 | DiNo29 | hmmm interesting |
| 13:52.02 | DiNo29 | you can set the maximum count in Data - Maximum Count instead of Area +, gonna try that |
| 13:52.31 | Hati | oO |
| 13:52.45 | Saladom | I experimented the attack of a mutalisk, It didn't bounce back. |
| 13:52.51 | Hati | theres a maximum count in Area+ lol never noticed |
| 13:53.30 | Skizot | oh MAN! |
| 13:53.38 | Skizot | this is gonna ROCK |
| 13:54.20 | DiNo29 | meh, doesnt change anything |
| 13:54.28 | DiNo29 | (and I did put the count back to -1 in area+) |
| 13:56.25 | Dremora_ | is there a way to disable collision with triggers? |
| 13:56.57 | dorkass | anyone wanna 2v2 melee's with a gold ranked stallion named dorkass? |
| 13:57.51 | DiNo29 | damn, how to edit those search filters ^^' |
| 13:58.25 | Cerebral_ | I'm starting to really hate actors. |
| 13:58.55 | Cerebral_ | All I want is my photon cannon to morph into the construction animation. |
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| 13:59.25 | zifoon | my eyes hurt now |
| 13:59.29 | zifoon | so much terraining |
| 13:59.37 | zifoon | and it still looks crap |
| 14:00.10 | zifoon | anyone have us bnet account so they can test map with me? |
| 14:00.51 | Cerebral_ | currently recreating this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAcIQbPsxSs |
| 14:01.14 | Cerebral_ | Got it fully functional. Animations just are not right yet |
| 14:01.24 | zifoon | errr morph unit to an unit then remake it? |
| 14:01.28 | zifoon | O_O |
| 14:01.29 | DiNo29 | damn, Search Filters aren't in the data editor T_T |
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| 14:02.00 | zifoon | actors is hard in GE |
| 14:02.08 | zifoon | hard to visualise |
| 14:03.00 | Cerebral_ | yeah |
| 14:03.00 | PixelWarrior|Stu | dino wat kinda search do u wanna do? |
| 14:03.00 | lolwut_ | wish they didn't take out phase cannons |
| 14:03.00 | lolwut_ | they would be pro |
| 14:03.00 | zifoon | I'm sure they are going to put everything back |
| 14:03.01 | DiNo29 | I want a validator to be a search filter |
| 14:03.01 | Cerebral_ | they took them out because they didn't want to share a similar ability witht the zerg |
| 14:03.01 | DiNo29 | I want to search an area for unit that doesn't have a specific buff |
| 14:03.01 | zifoon | lolwut can u test my AoS map tomorrow? u got a Us account? |
| 14:03.03 | DiNo29 | but with a count |
| 14:03.03 | lolwut_ | yeah zif |
| 14:03.04 | lolwut_ | what time? |
| 14:03.15 | vjeux | Cerebral_: are you doing to introduction video? |
| 14:03.15 | zifoon | ill b on all day tomorrow |
| 14:03.20 | zifoon | jus meet up here |
| 14:03.21 | DiNo29 | I want to find ONE unit in an area who doesnt have the buff, no more |
| 14:03.28 | lolwut_ | cool |
| 14:03.30 | zifoon | dino29 u got an us account? |
| 14:03.33 | DiNo29 | nah, eu |
| 14:03.38 | zifoon | ewww~~ |
| 14:03.41 | PixelWarrior|Stu | oh gg i dont how to do that |
| 14:03.47 | PixelWarrior|Stu | zifoon how goes ur aos? |
| 14:03.49 | DiNo29 | D: |
| 14:04.01 | zifoon | pixelwarrior u got a us account? |
| 14:04.12 | zifoon | I only done one hero but I want to see if everything works |
| 14:04.15 | DiNo29 | well I managed to do that "Search for one unit in the area, and check if it has the buff" |
| 14:04.19 | PixelWarrior|Stu | nope, but im interested. as im trying to make an aos style map too |
| 14:04.33 | DiNo29 | problem is, if the unit it finds does have the buff, it stops instead of looking for another one |
| 14:04.35 | zifoon | I got a hero revive system and exp system working |
| 14:04.42 | zifoon | I just need to add creeps and stuff |
| 14:04.45 | PixelWarrior|Stu | oh nice! |
| 14:04.54 | PixelWarrior|Stu | ive got my creeps, still fixing up terrain |
| 14:05.00 | PixelWarrior|Stu | no heroes and such yet |
| 14:05.03 | lolwut_ | im excited, want to test now |
| 14:05.05 | lolwut_ | :P |
| 14:05.10 | zifoon | experience add wasn't as hard as I thought it was |
| 14:05.21 | zifoon | I'm going to make my AoS map a community project |
| 14:05.26 | PixelWarrior|Stu | zifoon: does ur hero keep its level and stuff after revival? |
| 14:05.39 | zifoon | well it saves exp when taking a fatal dmg |
| 14:05.44 | lolwut_ | ohoh ew b.net is down |
| 14:05.45 | zifoon | and gives exp when revives |
| 14:05.50 | PixelWarrior|Stu | ahh cool |
| 14:06.03 | zifoon | I made a custom give experience function |
| 14:06.08 | zifoon | u can have a look later |
| 14:06.14 | DiNo29 | omg, I think I found it |
| 14:06.14 | PixelWarrior|Stu | u can gimme a hand when i make my heroes =D |
| 14:06.28 | zifoon | heroes are very easy |
| 14:06.30 | vjeux | seen that?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otr-qvDXg4I |
| 14:06.38 | zifoon | I'm writing a program for scaling, out put will be xml |
| 14:06.45 | lolwut_ | it's more thinking up ideas for heros |
| 14:06.48 | zifoon | right now scaling Stats and exp is pain in the ass |
| 14:06.51 | lolwut_ | like, ability scaling? |
| 14:06.54 | zifoon | ye |
| 14:06.55 | lolwut_ | oh |
| 14:07.00 | lolwut_ | nice |
| 14:07.03 | lolwut_ | that'd be useful |
| 14:07.04 | lolwut_ | well |
| 14:07.05 | zifoon | I'm making a VB.net program for it |
| 14:07.42 | lolwut_ | but yeah, mad keen to help/test anytime |
| 14:07.47 | zifoon | I'm making my project community, so I don't have to think up ideas for the hero |
| 14:07.49 | zifoon | ^__^ |
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| 14:07.54 | lolwut_ | haha |
| 14:07.57 | PixelWarrior|Stu | lol |
| 14:08.00 | dorkass | ill test whatever with whoever |
| 14:08.03 | dorkass | if someone wants to whatever |
| 14:08.06 | zifoon | I got a anti-mage port |
| 14:08.27 | zifoon | it does casts AOE feedback based on dmg taken, invisible charge and spell shield |
| 14:08.30 | dorkass | zif, im dorkass.dorkass on us |
| 14:08.32 | zifoon | and ulti |
| 14:08.41 | lolwut_ | hard part'll be to make heros that aren't dota clones |
| 14:08.44 | lolwut_ | cause yeah |
| 14:08.49 | lolwut_ | might as well play hon for that |
| 14:08.50 | lolwut_ | :P |
| 14:08.53 | dorkass | dude i can invent heroes all day long |
| 14:08.55 | zifoon | lol wut what's ur indentifier? |
| 14:09.00 | dorkass | dorkass is my id and un |
| 14:09.03 | dorkass | dorkass.dorkass |
| 14:09.11 | lolwut_ | pkol.pkol |
| 14:09.15 | DiNo29 | hmmm |
| 14:09.17 | lolwut_ | i should probally change my irl name too |
| 14:09.21 | lolwut_ | irc* |
| 14:09.23 | lolwut_ | wow |
| 14:09.24 | dorkass | i'm an author and concept artist booya, i could invent 20 characters in 30 seconds |
| 14:09.24 | lolwut_ | irl |
| 14:09.28 | DiNo29 | anyone know how Target Sorts + works ? |
| 14:09.34 | zifoon | lol thx dorkass |
| 14:09.40 | zifoon | I might need ur help in near future |
| 14:09.42 | zifoon | like tomorrow |
| 14:09.57 | zifoon | I need a terrain artist too |
| 14:10.01 | dorkass | ORC DRAGOON |
| 14:10.04 | dorkass | there's one |
| 14:10.08 | lolwut_ | lol |
| 14:10.12 | dorkass | sike |
| 14:10.14 | lolwut_ | NIGHT ELF ULTRALISK |
| 14:10.28 | lolwut_ | sorry :P |
| 14:10.29 | zifoon | I was gonna make a giant ultralisk the roshan |
| 14:10.33 | zifoon | ^_^ |
| 14:10.36 | HaVoC373 | i'm a 3D, 2D, concept artist that is currently trying to learn how this editor works. :) |
| 14:10.57 | art[] | you guys see starcraft kart? |
| 14:11.03 | HaVoC373 | yah |
| 14:11.11 | HaVoC373 | looks awesome |
| 14:11.22 | art[] | yeah pretty cool |
| 14:11.38 | HaVoC373 | little iffy on the physics but thats expected this early in the game |
| 14:11.39 | lolwut_ | im interested to see how popular the WSAD/3rd Person games'll be |
| 14:11.48 | zifoon | I can't make a custom function for X amount of damage though, sc2 has armor reduction system based on spell, so I can divide amount of dmg into binary numbers T___T |
| 14:11.59 | DiNo29 | nobody for Target Sorts + ? :p |
| 14:12.09 | dorkass | fuck roshan |
| 14:12.12 | dorkass | seriously don't do that |
| 14:12.16 | zifoon | we really need unit does X damage function |
| 14:12.25 | art[] | as long as they work well and are better polished than the crappy ghost map showed off at blizzcon... |
| 14:12.29 | zifoon | na I'm adding roshan as option |
| 14:12.33 | art[] | that was so choppy |
| 14:12.39 | zifoon | so ppl can type if they want rosh in their game |
| 14:13.10 | zifoon | man how did they do the underground thingo? |
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| 14:13.17 | HaVoC373 | does anyone know how i can add more weapons to a unit so it uses them when its doing its default attack? |
| 14:13.19 | Zachet | What is up homeys |
| 14:13.44 | zifoon | u mean make them stack? |
| 14:13.51 | dorkass | lol at night elf ultralisk |
| 14:14.08 | HaVoC373 | no i mean use them simultanieusly |
| 14:14.22 | zifoon | yes weapon stacking O_O |
| 14:14.25 | HaVoC373 | ok |
| 14:14.39 | zifoon | because if u add weapon right away, im sure it checks for range and does it |
| 14:14.40 | HaVoC373 | as i said i'm new to this editor :P |
| 14:14.58 | zifoon | Look at Hydralisk attack |
| 14:15.03 | zifoon | u will find the answer |
| 14:15.04 | zifoon | maybe |
| 14:15.10 | HaVoC373 | k thx |
| 14:15.13 | Zachet | So does anyone know why a Boss Bar Maximum will not adjust... setting it to 12 either by an absolute value or a interger variable keeps setting it to 5 in game O.o |
| 14:15.23 | dorkass | i just added the same weapon (one exact copy) to a dude and he used both at the same time |
| 14:15.40 | dorkass | but i know if they have different ranges sometimes it's random which gets used |
| 14:15.44 | zifoon | wait hydralisk is the one with melee attack and ranged attack right? |
| 14:15.59 | dorkass | hydra has one attack, but with two effects, one for air and one for ground |
| 14:15.59 | HaVoC373 | yes |
| 14:16.05 | zifoon | ye |
| 14:16.07 | zifoon | that |
| 14:16.09 | dorkass | only one weapon |
| 14:16.31 | zifoon | no |
| 14:16.34 | zifoon | it has 2 weapons |
| 14:16.36 | zifoon | I just checked |
| 14:16.42 | HaVoC373 | i'm currently working on this uber battlecruiser, and i want it to have collosus thermal lances. but it wont use them |
| 14:17.07 | HaVoC373 | it will only use its two default weapons |
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| 14:18.01 | zifoon | wait |
| 14:18.02 | zifoon | na |
| 14:18.06 | zifoon | u gotta add turrets |
| 14:18.21 | HaVoC373 | how do i do that? |
| 14:18.49 | zifoon | I would help but I'm very sweeppy |
| 14:18.53 | zifoon | wait up |
| 14:19.05 | zifoon | there was uberlisk example somewhere |
| 14:19.08 | zifoon | an* |
| 14:19.46 | zifoon | I remember having more than one attack |
| 14:20.21 | DiNo29 | go to the unit : weapons + : add weapons |
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| 14:21.14 | HaVoC373 | dino i have done that but it wont use more than its default weapons |
| 14:21.22 | zifoon | but dino that won't always rigger simultaneously |
| 14:21.40 | zifoon | it's because of the range limit |
| 14:22.20 | DiNo29 | noo |
| 14:22.23 | DiNo29 | my validator is all wrong |
| 14:22.25 | DiNo29 | T_T |
| 14:22.26 | DiNo29 | wtf |
| 14:23.15 | zifoon | well I guess u can use set-effect |
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| 14:23.21 | zifoon | and clump 2 attacks together |
| 14:23.27 | Zachet | ... How the hell does this make the maximum value 5... UI - Display boss bar 1 with title "Missle - Ammo ", portrait Assets\Textures\ui_chatbaricons_terran_individual.dds and maximum value 12 for (All players) |
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| 14:23.41 | zifoon | but there has to be a simplier solution |
| 14:23.48 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/pong/. Pong!. BlueSorc (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 14:26.31 | DiNo29 | not that bug again ... |
| 14:26.36 | DiNo29 | can you put a delay in an effect ? |
| 14:27.30 | Zachet | I don't get this... this has to be a bug of some sort =/ |
| 14:28.22 | DiNo29 | I'm gonna cry now :p |
| 14:29.35 | zifoon | havoc373 u there? |
| 14:29.40 | HaVoC373 | i am |
| 14:29.42 | zifoon | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/2/567/Uberlisk2.SC2Map |
| 14:29.45 | zifoon | ^answer |
| 14:29.57 | HaVoC373 | thanks |
| 14:30.05 | zifoon | uberlisk has 2 attacks working simultaneously |
| 14:30.16 | Grum | we need at least 10! |
| 14:30.18 | zifoon | one is spine attack and other is normal ultralisk attack |
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| 14:31.20 | DiNo29 | Killed by a bug :[ |
| 14:32.40 | zifoon | man I have like 30 versions of my map, saved as many times just incase bug crashes the whole map |
| 14:33.04 | rebb | hmm, why does the "button pressed" action say that it always creates network traffic, is it not possible to make a local-only UI ? |
| 14:33.06 | zifoon | I already had like 2 maps crashing on me |
| 14:33.13 | DiNo29 | nah I still have my map |
| 14:33.17 | DiNo29 | the bug just make it hopeless :( |
| 14:33.26 | zifoon | then the bug didn't kill it! |
| 14:33.31 | zifoon | fight for your map! |
| 14:34.06 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/map/map-info/ by Statcomm |
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| 14:34.15 | zifoon | dino have u got an us account? |
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| 14:34.24 | Zachet | Statcomm, do you sleep? |
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| 14:34.54 | DiNo29 | no, I told you, eu xD |
| 14:35.15 | zifoon | man I need sleep |
| 14:35.22 | zifoon | been up like 25 hours |
| 14:35.29 | zifoon | ye u did tell me rofl |
| 14:35.35 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/map/map-options/ by Statcomm |
| 14:35.46 | zifoon | I wasn't sure it was u or pixelwarrior |
| 14:35.55 | PixelWarrior|Stu | wat? |
| 14:36.04 | zifoon | who had an eu account |
| 14:36.10 | PixelWarrior|Stu | not me |
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| 14:36.30 | zifoon | pixel u have an US account? |
| 14:36.34 | Grum | <-- eu |
| 14:36.47 | PixelWarrior|Stu | my mates got an account that i can use sometimes |
| 14:37.15 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/how-to-convert-ge-maps-to-patch-8/ by Corosus |
| 14:37.18 | zifoon | grum is ewwww server as well |
| 14:37.21 | zifoon | yeah I said it! |
| 14:37.29 | Grum | sits on zifoon until he dies |
| 14:37.41 | Grum | revives zifoon and kills him again |
| 14:37.50 | zifoon | I'm pretty close to dying |
| 14:37.51 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/map/map-textures/ by Statcomm |
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| 14:37.59 | zifoon | I'll be sleeping in 23 minutes |
| 14:38.00 | Skizot | hey Mojache |
| 14:38.04 | Grum | turns zifoon into a religious freak |
| 14:38.05 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/map/map-bounds/ by Statcomm |
| 14:38.05 | Skizot | wanna do some sounds for me? |
| 14:38.33 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/map/map-loading-screens/ by Statcomm |
| 14:38.33 | Mojache | sup |
| 14:38.44 | Mojache | another time sure, im about to head to bed |
| 14:38.48 | Mojache | just trying to finish this gun |
| 14:38.58 | zifoon | hey do u think it's possible to make a "hook" ability only using the data editor? |
| 14:39.12 | zifoon | I know how to pull units |
| 14:39.22 | zifoon | but I don't see how I can make the hook animation |
| 14:39.39 | Grum | another weapon idea! grappling hook! |
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| 14:39.49 | zifoon | it's my idea i tells u!!! |
| 14:39.50 | Grum | grip/hook a ranged unit towards your melee |
| 14:39.54 | zifoon | COPYRIGHT! |
| 14:40.00 | Grum | copywrong! |
| 14:40.03 | Zachet | Make a beam for example the colossi beams... and have it from one target to the other like it is attacking until you make a real hook |
| 14:40.09 | zifoon | damn internet just beat me |
| 14:40.37 | PixelWarrior|Stu | zifoon |
| 14:40.43 | zifoon | yo |
| 14:40.44 | rebb | did anyone try changing texture-sets of a half-done map and get it to run properly afterwards ? |
| 14:41.13 | Skizot | is there any way to make a timer go off randomly? |
| 14:41.19 | Skizot | like between 1-5 seconds? |
| 14:42.06 | Zachet | You'd probley have to generate a random timer... I can think of a lot of ineffecient ways |
| 14:42.31 | DiNo29 | you can in one line |
| 14:43.04 | DiNo29 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.15 | DiNo29 | well, 1 and 5 in your case |
| 14:43.27 | zifoon | I just learned how to do evasion passive skill -> Hardened Shield |
| 14:43.30 | Zachet | Ag, there's already a random between function |
| 14:43.33 | zifoon | I'm so happy |
| 14:43.53 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.58 | Skizot | thanks :) |
| 14:45.31 | zifoon | why is bnet down? |
| 14:45.43 | HaVoC373 | its fine here |
| 14:45.52 | zifoon | says there is an outage |
| 14:45.57 | zifoon | havoc r u US? |
| 14:46.02 | HaVoC373 | but then again i'm in eu |
| 14:46.07 | zifoon | x_X |
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| 14:46.30 | DiNo29 | yaaaay |
| 14:46.33 | DiNo29 | it works \o/ |
| 14:46.33 | HaVoC373 | still its late that we cant play cross continent |
| 14:46.46 | HaVoC373 | lame not late |
| 14:47.21 | zifoon | yeah.. but I don't want to play with the french anyway |
| 14:47.24 | DiNo29 | Data Editor only Chain Lightning, that bouce from one target to the other 4 times, dealing decreasing damages, not hitting the same target twice, always hitting 5 targets if there's 5 close enough \o/ |
| 14:47.32 | zifoon | wait there aren't any french ppl here right? |
| 14:47.33 | DiNo29 | finally ! |
| 14:47.34 | zifoon | ^___^ |
| 14:47.45 | DiNo29 | everyone is french here |
| 14:47.50 | zifoon | I'm jk... I love the french |
| 14:47.57 | Xan | maybe we can pick gateway once beta is over |
| 14:48.00 | vjeux | <- french |
| 14:48.01 | HaVoC373 | no takebacks! |
| 14:48.19 | PixelWarrior|Stu | zifoon, how did u find that hardened shield is an evasion? |
| 14:48.21 | zifoon | I took back b4 u said takebacks |
| 14:48.40 | HaVoC373 | nah blizz have said that they are going to test bnet extensivly for cross continent play after release |
| 14:48.45 | zifoon | oh hardened shield has max spell/range/melee dmg cap and has change do activate |
| 14:48.51 | zifoon | which was 100% |
| 14:48.57 | zifoon | and has validater for has shield |
| 14:49.01 | PixelWarrior|Stu | is this under behaviours? |
| 14:49.06 | zifoon | yeah |
| 14:49.06 | Saladom | cross continent play! |
| 14:49.13 | Saladom | that's great. |
| 14:49.47 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i cant find where the maximum damage value is stored |
| 14:49.49 | DiNo29 | hey .... some days ago I explaiend to someone how to link a beam to an actor |
| 14:49.54 | DiNo29 | now I can't remember, can you tell me back ? :D |
| 14:49.57 | zifoon | wait up |
| 14:50.01 | DiNo29 | whoever it was |
| 14:50.17 | Hati | Someone else has the weird Portrait issue with Archons ? |
| 14:50.32 | zifoon | Damage Response - Damage Clamp |
| 14:50.41 | Hati | that there is a white "ball" sometimes at the portrait |
| 14:50.51 | art[] | mmm cross-continent play would be nice |
| 14:50.57 | lolwut_ | yeah i have that hati |
| 14:51.00 | Hati | k |
| 14:51.06 | Hati | thought i had some grafic problems :o |
| 14:51.14 | zifoon | max and minimum clamp |
| 14:51.22 | PixelWarrior|Stu | damage clamp is 10 |
| 14:51.24 | Hati | any fix for it lolwut_ ? |
| 14:51.26 | zifoon | ye |
| 14:51.28 | zifoon | u can change it |
| 14:51.29 | zifoon | to 0 |
| 14:51.31 | PixelWarrior|Stu | tooltip says 12 |
| 14:51.33 | zifoon | if u want evasion |
| 14:51.34 | lolwut_ | not sure |
| 14:51.39 | lolwut_ | didn't really look into it |
| 14:51.40 | zifoon | tooltip is the gays |
| 14:52.00 | zifoon | tooltip says roaches gain regeneration above ground with the research |
| 14:52.02 | zifoon | not true |
| 14:52.14 | PixelWarrior|Stu | gotcha |
| 14:52.23 | DiNo29 | wow, found ti again |
| 14:52.29 | PixelWarrior|Stu | back to economics study |
| 14:52.31 | DiNo29 | the beam is linked trough a sound actor :| |
| 14:52.32 | PixelWarrior|Stu | dino |
| 14:52.38 | PixelWarrior|Stu | teach me, so next time u forget =D |
| 14:53.01 | DiNo29 | ^^ |
| 14:53.10 | DiNo29 | look at Archon Attack actor |
| 14:53.18 | DiNo29 | it's an actor that sets the 2 sound for the archon attack |
| 14:53.32 | DiNo29 | but there's a Beam field in that actor |
| 14:53.35 | Xan | how does the "negative shape" on regions work? |
| 14:53.38 | DiNo29 | with the ID of a beam actor typed in it |
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| 14:53.52 | DiNo29 | so it also link the beam. It doesn't even appear in the links windows at the bottom left |
| 14:54.06 | DiNo29 | cause the ID is manually typed, as opposed to the other link where you scroll trough a list |
| 14:54.30 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i hope they fix that |
| 14:54.37 | DiNo29 | yeah :/ |
| 14:54.55 | PixelWarrior|Stu | cant really expect us to just "know" or memorise all those strings lol |
| 14:55.23 | DiNo29 | well, there's not many different beams :d |
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| 14:57.52 | Guest49071 | sup guys |
| 14:58.21 | griffith` | does anyone know if the map editor is backwards compatible |
| 14:58.29 | griffith` | ie. will our maps work in future versions |
| 14:58.38 | monoframe | Well, can't say for the beta |
| 14:58.40 | zifoon | yes they will be just like RoC |
| 14:58.40 | monoframe | but it is |
| 14:58.42 | zifoon | =_= |
| 14:58.46 | HaVoC373 | does anyone know if there is a way to create a random model height artibute or if there already is one? |
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| 14:59.22 | zifoon | then again they made the last version of FT incompatible with all the past custom maps |
| 14:59.35 | zifoon | and they still couldn't stop hacking |
| 14:59.39 | zifoon | that was very sad |
| 15:00.20 | zifoon | havoc did u get ur attacks working? |
| 15:00.25 | griffith` | any idea how to give units an inventory and items to pick up? |
| 15:00.39 | dorkass | are there any php programmers here by chance? i'm stuck on something |
| 15:00.42 | zifoon | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ |
| 15:01.18 | HaVoC373 | nope not yet but i'm kind ajust experimenting all over the place |
| 15:01.19 | griffith` | ah ty |
| 15:01.37 | zifoon | ok it's 1am here good night guys |
| 15:01.46 | HaVoC373 | nn |
| 15:01.50 | zifoon | good night lovely french ppl |
| 15:01.54 | zifoon | ^_______^ |
| 15:02.17 | Dustin|work | Im not French |
| 15:02.45 | PixelWarrior|Stu | what are u ? |
| 15:02.57 | Dustin | 'Merican! |
| 15:03.05 | PixelWarrior|Stu | LOL |
| 15:03.28 | PixelWarrior|Stu | love how u leave the A out |
| 15:03.33 | Dustin | hehe |
| 15:03.57 | Hati | oh you don't even need to create RequirementNodes by yourself oO |
| 15:04.02 | Zachet | So making walk-over powerups should I deal with the loot/powerup system in the data editor that I have no idea how it works or create a blank unit actor and turn it into a box and make a collision trigger? :O |
| 15:04.28 | Magnevv | Is there anybody that can tell me how you attach a movement sound to a unit/actor? |
| 15:06.55 | DiNo29 | Movement Speed 0 = default ? |
| 15:07.02 | DiNo29 | or not moving |
| 15:07.22 | DiNo29 | how do you set the speed for a missile ? |
| 15:07.28 | griffith` | how much more powerful is the SC2 editor compared to WC3's? |
| 15:07.53 | Zachet | This much, | | |
| 15:08.26 | DiNo29 | nobody ? :( |
| 15:08.32 | griffith` | | ? |
| 15:08.34 | Zachet | My missles are really banelings |
| 15:08.36 | Zachet | so I don't know |
| 15:08.46 | DiNo29 | well, how did you create them |
| 15:08.53 | DiNo29 | you made a projectile with the baneling model ? |
| 15:09.09 | Zachet | Well it's not a realy weapon, side scroller, so I press space it and creates a baneling with a missle model |
| 15:09.18 | DiNo29 | lol |
| 15:09.24 | Zachet | goes until it detects from a trigger collision system |
| 15:09.26 | Zachet | or auto explodes |
| 15:09.33 | Zachet | also set to mule countdown |
| 15:09.37 | Zachet | so last only 1 second |
| 15:09.42 | Saladom | not much. it is complicated than wc3 is. |
| 15:09.57 | Saladom | GE needs to update. |
| 15:10.45 | Skizot | that's EASY |
| 15:11.15 | Zachet | Anyone familiar with the powerup/built-in data loot system? |
| 15:11.16 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.39 | Zachet | Skizot is talking to himself! |
| 15:11.42 | Zachet | :P |
| 15:12.00 | Skizot | HaVoC373 asked how to make a unit have a random height |
| 15:12.04 | Skizot | THAT will do it. |
| 15:12.14 | Zachet | Damn straight it well |
| 15:12.15 | Zachet | you go boy |
| 15:13.07 | DiNo29 | "The scope the beam actor will be created in" |
| 15:13.11 | DiNo29 | does that mean the source of the beam ? |
| 15:13.24 | Dustin | Records are the same as Structs correcT? |
| 15:14.05 | griffith` | http://i44.tinypic.com/kbuoo5.png <-- in this tutoritla I dont even have the step #4's check box enabled |
| 15:17.38 | griffith` | oh nm |
| 15:17.40 | griffith` | i had to scroll down |
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| 15:20.25 | DiNo29 | yay :) |
| 15:20.32 | DiNo29 | My chain lightning now has a jumping beam too |
| 15:20.44 | Saladom | good. |
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| 15:21.52 | nicoli_s | congrats |
| 15:22.03 | monoframe | GOOD JOB! |
| 15:22.41 | Grum | DiNo29: FAKE UNLESS SCREENIES |
| 15:23.33 | Vailreth | chainlightning How? |
| 15:24.44 | DiNo29 | data editor |
| 15:24.49 | DiNo29 | polishing some stuff and I'll upload ^^ |
| 15:24.55 | Grum | ticktock |
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| 15:26.48 | Vailreth | i am trying to make chain attack for the archon...i was wondering how you set the ammo ? |
| 15:26.55 | PixelWarrior|Stu | grum: fake unless source code LOL |
| 15:27.07 | DiNo29 | no ammo here |
| 15:27.18 | PixelWarrior|Stu | does anything even use ammo? |
| 15:27.28 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i havent really seen a unit using ammo |
| 15:27.45 | Dustin | Carriers |
| 15:28.00 | PixelWarrior|Stu | are interceptors regarded as ammo? |
| 15:28.05 | Dustin | Yup |
| 15:28.06 | Dustin | Magazine |
| 15:28.09 | PixelWarrior|Stu | oooh interesting |
| 15:28.29 | PixelWarrior|Stu | and wen they come back, ammo the carrier reloads |
| 15:28.30 | Grum | PixelWarrior|Stu: pics first then sourcecode then your hands and firstborne :p |
| 15:28.39 | DiNo29 | D: |
| 15:29.44 | PixelWarrior|Stu | grum: WHERE DO I SIGN UP!? |
| 15:29.56 | Grum | just send some blood to /dev/null |
| 15:30.03 | Grum | 666 liters should do |
| 15:30.33 | PixelWarrior|Stu | ill rest up my liver then =D |
| 15:31.32 | DiNo29 | gah game crash |
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| 15:32.58 | Xan | how do I change the tech settings of a player (like which units you can build)? |
| 15:33.04 | monoframe | dino, first it's game crash...then GE corrupting your map...just for the sake of beta |
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| 15:37.17 | Grum | DiNo29: PICS! |
| 15:37.52 | DiNo29 | yeah but I have that strange bug D: |
| 15:38.01 | DiNo29 | sometimes the beam source is a little off the unit, dunno why |
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| 15:39.07 | Stewox | hello |
| 15:39.11 | Stewox | any mapper here ? |
| 15:39.17 | PixelWarrior|Stu | nooo |
| 15:39.19 | PixelWarrior|Stu | dont be silly |
| 15:39.21 | Stewox | haha |
| 15:39.23 | Stewox | ok nice |
| 15:39.26 | griffith` | when i place my unit all i get are little red spheres |
| 15:39.26 | PixelWarrior|Stu | lol! |
| 15:39.27 | DiNo29 | Grum : tell me how to set the speed of a projectile and I'll give you pics :p |
| 15:39.37 | Grum | DiNo29: trade for pics! |
| 15:39.37 | dorkass | griffith, check the actor's Model |
| 15:39.38 | Stewox | i have a problem |
| 15:39.41 | dorkass | and set it to one that exists |
| 15:40.08 | Stewox | how do I run a mod ? melee-mod ? I can't test it in editor |
| 15:40.25 | dorkass | you have to set the mod as a dependency to your file, then run the map |
| 15:40.37 | Stewox | oh so that's it |
| 15:40.39 | DiNo29 | yeah, but you tell me first :D |
| 15:40.43 | griffith` | dorkass, I copied a marine from the actors, and set its name to that of my custom unit |
| 15:40.49 | Stewox | and wat dependency for , multi or campaign ? |
| 15:40.56 | dorkass | yeah, when you do that it resets the actual model on the actor |
| 15:40.59 | dorkass | check out the model node |
| 15:41.09 | dorkass | it's probably set to your marine copy, which doesn't exist as a model id |
| 15:41.19 | Stewox | I'l open the mod up now ... |
| 15:41.30 | dorkass | everybody only gets 1 |
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| 15:42.54 | Beider | New Video Tutorial: TD Tutorial - Step 6: Difficulty & Behaviours (40 min) - http://www.livestream.com/beider/video?clipId=pla_865e904a-eea7-4000-9e84-888d26ded2d8 |
| 15:44.31 | Stewox | cool |
| 15:44.53 | Stewox | dorkass |
| 15:45.02 | Stewox | can u elaborate more plz ? |
| 15:45.12 | Stewox | I have messed up my install can't open editor now |
| 15:45.39 | DiNo29 | yeah, I can't make screenshot with that animation, it's too short |
| 15:45.45 | DiNo29 | I need help on editing a model's animation |
| 15:45.59 | DiNo29 | oh nvm I know a way |
| 15:46.01 | Stewox | well , i'll be back later then , really want to try my sc2mod file |
| 15:46.28 | Stewox | i am surprised there is no single readme nor any documentation with sc2 editor |
| 15:47.04 | DiNo29 | no, I still need to edit the model actually, meh :( |
| 15:47.49 | monoframe | Stewox, it's only beta...probably they will ship some minor detail on how to start with the full version, just like how they did with WarCraft 3 |
| 15:48.10 | dorkass | sorry im working, can't follow chat |
| 15:48.19 | dorkass | you just like, go to file -> dependencies |
| 15:48.21 | dorkass | or whatever it is |
| 15:48.35 | dorkass | then add your mod, then save the file, close it, and reopen it in the editor, and all the shit from the mod will be in your map |
| 15:48.44 | DiNo29 | how do you edit the model info you can view on the previewer ? |
| 15:48.44 | Hati | is there a galaxy cmd for PositionOfPoint? |
| 15:49.39 | Stewox | thanks dorkass |
| 15:50.17 | Zachet | So I don't have sound on this computer, anyone know a specific unit sound that may sound like a power-up pickup? |
| 15:50.18 | Zachet | :D |
| 15:51.46 | Zachet | Well since everyones in a state of dead I am going to just use zergling yes :( |
| 15:52.04 | dorkass | np |
| 15:52.26 | DiNo29 | So, nobody edited models yet ? :( |
| 15:52.27 | dorkass | the dark templar attack sounds like picking up a power-up |
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| 15:52.44 | DiNo29 | and I mean .m3 not model items |
| 15:52.45 | dorkass | pushewww |
| 15:52.50 | monoframe | State of the Dead - a brand new zombie movie that sweeping Nebraska! unfortunately with brain-dead flesh consumers... |
| 15:52.51 | Zachet | oo nice call dorkass |
| 15:52.55 | dorkass | 8-) |
| 15:53.40 | dorkass | man, brain-dead sleep-deprived, caffeine crazied and i can still write awesome php and answer questions about a map editor i know nothin about |
| 15:54.09 | dorkass | somebody tell me a sad story quick before my ego overwhelms me |
| 15:54.28 | dorkass | shit, too late |
| 15:54.30 | Zachet | My life story is too long |
| 15:54.31 | Zachet | :( |
| 15:54.43 | Zachet | Oh my game keeps crashing on map test now |
| 15:55.59 | DiNo29 | ok so, I have this duuuuuuumb problem, and then I'm done : |
| 15:56.25 | monoframe | dorkass, I could link you a video that will make you sad in pants |
| 15:56.30 | dorkass | no thanks |
| 15:56.42 | monoframe | bawwwwww |
| 15:56.42 | dorkass | my pants are plenty sad |
| 15:56.53 | DiNo29 | The Archon Beam model usually come from the right hand of the archon, and so they apparently made the model in a way that when you try to center it's source on a unit, it's actually cnetered to the right of the unit, where the archon's hand would be T_T |
| 15:56.56 | monoframe | They'll be more saddier than before |
| 15:57.22 | dorkass | i'm okay with the current amount of sadness in my pants, thanks |
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| 15:57.45 | monoframe | Dino, attack position is only attachment point-relevant |
| 15:58.01 | monoframe | So I don't know, what I kind of placement you're actually experiencing |
| 15:58.51 | dorkass | yeah i thought so, cuz i put the archon attack on an ultralisk and a larva and they both looked like they were coming from the mouth |
| 15:58.55 | DiNo29 | it's not an attachment, blizzard got lazy |
| 15:59.10 | DiNo29 | they actually made the model to be to the right, instaed of attaching it to the hand |
| 15:59.10 | Skizot | this is fucking weiiirrrddd |
| 15:59.19 | monoframe | Blizzard?! Lazy?! AREUMAD?! |
| 15:59.21 | Skizot | it's updating my terrain but NOT my tirggers? |
| 15:59.27 | DiNo29 | lol |
| 15:59.39 | dorkass | that happens to me a lot, skiz, especially with unit data |
| 15:59.50 | dorkass | i usually have to save changes and then close the map, the nreopen it |
| 16:01.36 | Zachet | So anyone know why this trigger crashes the game on load? http://pastebin.org/185483 |
| 16:03.07 | Zachet | When I disable it |
| 16:03.10 | Zachet | the game does not crash |
| 16:03.13 | Zachet | - |
| 16:03.15 | Zachet | -_- |
| 16:03.22 | monoframe | Unit Group - Remove (Triggering unit) from PowerUpGroup |
| 16:03.24 | Magnevv | Does anyone know how you make it so that a unit won't move when you rightclick the ground? |
| 16:03.28 | monoframe | Hero is not in PowerUpGroup |
| 16:03.31 | monoframe | that's what |
| 16:03.49 | monoframe | I mean, PowerUpGroup does not include Hero |
| 16:03.54 | Zachet | ah |
| 16:03.59 | monoframe | Becuase Hero = Triggering Hero |
| 16:04.00 | Zachet | triggering unit would be hero |
| 16:04.02 | monoframe | Unit* |
| 16:04.02 | monoframe | S: |
| 16:04.07 | monoframe | Yes |
| 16:04.10 | monoframe | So it fails |
| 16:04.29 | Zachet | Would that explain the game crashing? |
| 16:04.35 | monoframe | Who knows, try fixing |
| 16:04.38 | Zachet | k |
| 16:06.49 | Bifuu | wonders why no one uses the sc2mapster paste O.o |
| 16:08.37 | dorkass | cuz i ate it all |
| 16:08.46 | Zachet | sc2mapster paste? |
| 16:08.52 | Zachet | I would blame advertisement than. |
| 16:08.54 | dorkass | all of the paste. |
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| 16:09.58 | Skizot | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 16:10.34 | Magnevv | Does anyone know how you make it so that a unit won't move (or get the move command) when you rightclick the ground? |
| 16:10.42 | Skizot | trigger |
| 16:10.58 | Skizot | Right Click Reload |
| 16:10.58 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.58 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.58 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.58 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.59 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.59 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.08 | Zachet | Or you can make their move speed 0 |
| 16:11.08 | Zachet | ;) |
| 16:11.18 | Bifuu | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 16:11.22 | Skizot | i prefer stop :P |
| 16:11.38 | Zachet | See I would have to login |
| 16:11.40 | Zachet | that requires me to register. |
| 16:11.45 | Zachet | That requires me to stop working on my map |
| 16:11.47 | Zachet | productivity |
| 16:11.51 | Skizot | same |
| 16:12.03 | Bifuu | orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr set it to always have you logged in |
| 16:12.04 | Bifuu | and you win |
| 16:12.05 | Skizot | i'm trying to locate why the FUUUU it won't update my triggers :( |
| 16:12.09 | Zachet | I don't have an account |
| 16:12.12 | Zachet | lol |
| 16:12.19 | Bifuu | time to make one! |
| 16:12.28 | Zachet | what do you mean 'update' |
| 16:12.31 | Bifuu | maspter paste has coloring for galaxy |
| 16:12.35 | Zachet | Oh |
| 16:12.36 | Bifuu | unlike other stuffs |
| 16:12.38 | Zachet | I guess so than |
| 16:13.12 | Zachet | Skizot: What the crack rocks are you talking about |
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| 16:13.38 | Magnevv | I guess that would work, but it's not as clean as I would like since the arrows still appear, and it'll cancel any abilities it's currently doing |
| 16:13.50 | Gohla | 15Skizot: you could try opening your map with an MPQ editor and deleting the MapScript.galaxy |
| 16:13.55 | Gohla | then re save your map |
| 16:13.55 | PixelWarrior|Stu | is anyone familiar with keyboard control? |
| 16:14.07 | Zachet | Is there no way to have a ' Any unit from unit group ' rather than a specific number or 'random'. |
| 16:14.15 | Zachet | Yeah |
| 16:14.17 | Zachet | Easy pie |
| 16:14.27 | PixelWarrior|Stu | zach u talking to me? |
| 16:14.32 | facemelterr | So apparently i made a condition check a variable that has to many things to check to it freezes the game and takes liek 15secs to run the actions |
| 16:14.44 | Zachet | Well what do you mean by keyboard control, you mean simple WASD movement and key presses? |
| 16:14.50 | PixelWarrior|Stu | yeh |
| 16:14.52 | PixelWarrior|Stu | umm |
| 16:14.53 | Zachet | Yeah |
| 16:14.55 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i have a problem |
| 16:15.08 | PixelWarrior|Stu | with the actual turning of the unit model |
| 16:15.14 | facemelterr | anyone help me with that |
| 16:15.14 | PixelWarrior|Stu | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starkura/ |
| 16:15.37 | PixelWarrior|Stu | if u can take a look, that would be awesome, ive "fixed" it with a dodgey way |
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| 16:16.33 | Zachet | Ima take a look at it now |
| 16:16.38 | Zachet | I have to go to lunch soon though |
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| 16:17.14 | PixelWarrior|Stu | well the problem occurs as im using legionofphoenix's WASD movement |
| 16:17.17 | PixelWarrior|Stu | which is perfect |
| 16:17.33 | PixelWarrior|Stu | but the controls "Order unit" to walk in a direction |
| 16:17.54 | Zachet | ahhh mutalisk! |
| 16:17.55 | Zachet | Make them stop! |
| 16:18.01 | PixelWarrior|Stu | my plane game is like raiden / galaga where the plane faces up all the time |
| 16:18.20 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i dont want the plane to turn |
| 16:18.23 | Zachet | ah okay |
| 16:18.27 | PixelWarrior|Stu | btw the mutas dont stop LOL |
| 16:18.30 | Zachet | so you don't want it to follow the enemies like it appears |
| 16:18.33 | Zachet | can you shoot yet? |
| 16:18.38 | PixelWarrior|Stu | no not yet |
| 16:18.44 | PixelWarrior|Stu | but ill be working on that tomorrow |
| 16:18.48 | PixelWarrior|Stu | with collision and stuff |
| 16:19.17 | PixelWarrior|Stu | in the 0.1.1 version ive "fixed" it by sticking a fixed unit onto the controlled unit |
| 16:19.27 | PixelWarrior|Stu | and making the controlled unit very small |
| 16:19.37 | PixelWarrior|Stu | and that was done via triggers |
| 16:20.06 | PixelWarrior|Stu | it "looks" fine with this fix, but its just not very elegant |
| 16:20.24 | Zachet | yeah |
| 16:20.36 | facemelterr | anyone helpe mfix atrigger real quick |
| 16:20.53 | PixelWarrior|Stu | so if u can come up with something better, it would be great |
| 16:20.56 | PixelWarrior|Stu | facemelter |
| 16:20.57 | PixelWarrior|Stu | wats up |
| 16:21.14 | Bifuu | Someone give me map ideas |
| 16:21.18 | Bifuu | im bored |
| 16:21.30 | PixelWarrior|Stu | bifuu fix my raiden game =D |
| 16:21.39 | DiNo29 | Bifuu, help me instead :d |
| 16:21.48 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 16:21.49 | Xan | find out how melee AI works though trigger actions |
| 16:21.51 | PixelWarrior|Stu | yeah bifuu, u have too many people to help |
| 16:21.57 | Xan | or campaign AI |
| 16:22.06 | Bifuu | omg look over there! |
| 16:22.14 | PixelWarrior|Stu | no, come back here |
| 16:22.14 | RandomNewGuy | Hai gaiz |
| 16:22.18 | PixelWarrior|Stu | lol |
| 16:22.28 | PixelWarrior|Stu | hey random guy |
| 16:22.28 | RandomNewGuy | i needz map ideaZ! |
| 16:22.31 | facemelterr | tryign to make player win when all other active players have no units left |
| 16:22.42 | PixelWarrior|Stu | facemelter |
| 16:22.57 | PixelWarrior|Stu | use the err... check remaining units in EVERYWHERE trigger |
| 16:23.01 | Zachet | If you're bored make my pickup powerup system work while I go to lunch, ' http://pastebin.org/185523 |
| 16:23.11 | Zachet | It crashes the game at the moment, needs adjusted |
| 16:23.12 | Zachet | :) |
| 16:23.25 | Bifuu | This requires i actually open the trigger editor |
| 16:23.25 | facemelterr | whast htat pixel |
| 16:23.36 | PixelWarrior|Stu | its a trigge |
| 16:23.48 | PixelWarrior|Stu | that checks for number of units of a player on the entire map |
| 16:23.52 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i thnk i saw it somewhere |
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| 16:24.30 | facemelterr | ya |
| 16:24.33 | facemelterr | im using that |
| 16:24.34 | Paras1te | Can anyone help me? I'm trying to find unit's damage value in triggers. |
| 16:25.16 | facemelterr | jsut that wut it does is it check the number of untis of any type on the entire map owned by all active player - the number of units owned by the player ive selected in the entire map of any unit type |
| 16:25.31 | facemelterr | only problem is apparetnyl this action is sto complicated for the editor to execute |
| 16:25.35 | facemelterr | is too* |
| 16:26.03 | PixelWarrior|Stu | wtf? |
| 16:26.04 | facemelterr | because when i have the variable i set that to, to equal zero enable win for the player i indicate |
| 16:26.08 | facemelterr | ya |
| 16:26.10 | facemelterr | its fudged |
| 16:26.12 | Dustin | Im sure there's still an operations limit for each thread |
| 16:26.24 | Dustin | I ran into that problem when I was making my Grid system for WC3 |
| 16:26.25 | facemelterr | well apprently i found it lol |
| 16:26.28 | Dustin | Gotta split it up |
| 16:26.30 | facemelterr | ya |
| 16:26.31 | Dustin | hehe |
| 16:26.39 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/endymions-aura/. Endymion's Aura. lirex (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
| 16:26.40 | facemelterr | im pretty sure i got make like 13 diff variables for each player |
| 16:26.43 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lonely-ghost-adventures-alpha/. Lonely Ghost Adventures. sonnert (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
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| 16:27.08 | zhuge | is it just me or does the resources on kill time out after a while? |
| 16:27.09 | Dustin | Ya i was assigning like 52x52 Grid for each player |
| 16:27.09 | Bifuu | nicoli_s lives! |
| 16:27.16 | nicoli_s | yah im here Bifuu |
| 16:27.17 | facemelterr | so it checks each player if they have a certain amount of units on the map |
| 16:27.20 | nicoli_s | just got back from vacation |
| 16:27.24 | nicoli_s | and leaving again tom :P |
| 16:27.26 | facemelterr | and if all teh players = 0 then activate win |
| 16:27.34 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 16:27.40 | Bifuu | how manyv acations do you get |
| 16:27.43 | Bifuu | lol |
| 16:27.45 | nicoli_s | bunch :P |
| 16:27.46 | Magnevv | Does anyone know how you set a movement sound to a unit? |
| 16:28.06 | facemelterr | and another condition to be winning players units >> 0 |
| 16:28.16 | Bifuu | i Wish there was a company like Curse around here then hahaha |
| 16:28.22 | facemelterr | was hoping i could avoid doing that since its the galaxy editor |
| 16:28.32 | Paras1te | Can someone help me find unit's damage value in triggers? |
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| 16:28.54 | PixelWarrior|Stu | parasite |
| 16:29.08 | Skizot | :( |
| 16:29.10 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i think theres a bunch of functions that return a units properties? |
| 16:29.19 | HaVoC373 | does anyone know where the controller for the battlecruisers animation is? |
| 16:29.23 | PixelWarrior|Stu | is damage amongst those? |
| 16:29.24 | Paras1te | yup, but not damage ;/ |
| 16:29.29 | PixelWarrior|Stu | then i have no idea LOL |
| 16:29.50 | Paras1te | tried even took by effect and weapons properties ;/ |
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| 16:29.56 | Paras1te | *to look |
| 16:30.03 | Habladabla | hmmm, is there a way to set the height an unit floats at, for example to have a medivac or battlecruiser literally lay on the ground instead of flying in the air |
| 16:30.29 | HaVoC373 | the BC i am workin on can land :) |
| 16:30.40 | Habladabla | gief |
| 16:30.42 | HaVoC373 | and garrison units |
| 16:31.01 | HaVoC373 | and build SVC's :) |
| 16:31.14 | HaVoC373 | its basicaly a command center turned into a battlecruiser |
| 16:31.34 | Habladabla | haha thats smart |
| 16:31.37 | Habladabla | :D |
| 16:31.47 | PixelWarrior|Stu | habla |
| 16:32.06 | Habladabla | yes |
| 16:32.09 | HaVoC373 | but when i try to upgrade it to an orbital command it starts an animation, and then turns into a regular orbital command :P |
| 16:32.17 | PixelWarrior|Stu | Units -> Search Battlecruiser -> Field: Art - Height |
| 16:32.27 | HaVoC373 | yup |
| 16:32.47 | Paras1te | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401525369&sid=5000 |
| 16:32.57 | Habladabla | thank you good sir |
| 16:33.08 | Habladabla | +10 internet points for you :P |
| 16:33.27 | Paras1te | Would like to spend it for sth :) |
| 16:33.55 | Paras1te | Dear god... i can find everything, beyond the damage.. |
| 16:33.58 | HaVoC373 | yeah i know that but i cant find the model it is supposed to be switching into |
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| 16:34.32 | HaVoC373 | the upgraded battlecruiser model is missing or it has an obscure name |
| 16:34.37 | Paras1te | I want to check unit's damage by trigger... |
| 16:35.30 | PixelWarrior|Stu | para: i want my aos map made =( |
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| 16:36.10 | Paras1te | lol aos map now... You can also try making a rocket and going to space xD |
| 16:36.26 | Paras1te | *into |
| 16:36.37 | PixelWarrior|Stu | been there done that |
| 16:36.43 | PixelWarrior|Stu | LOL |
| 16:36.58 | Paras1te | So AoS map is no problem for you ;p |
| 16:37.32 | PixelWarrior|Stu | u got me =P |
| 16:39.51 | art[] | AoS? |
| 16:40.34 | PixelWarrior|Stu | Aeon of Strife |
| 16:40.43 | PixelWarrior|Stu | if u dont know, then DotA =D |
| 16:40.58 | art[] | ah |
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| 16:44.58 | Zbyszek | who want play custom on bnet? |
| 16:45.06 | Zbyszek | using the custom map loader? |
| 16:45.07 | Habladabla | \i do |
| 16:45.08 | Habladabla | EU? |
| 16:45.11 | Zbyszek | yea |
| 16:45.23 | Habladabla | where do I get this loader :P |
| 16:46.23 | Dustin | sc2mapster front page |
| 16:46.30 | Dustin | Read the news everyday noob :D |
| 16:47.35 | Habladabla | fuck I will :D |
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| 16:48.16 | Zachet | *burp* |
| 16:48.21 | Sixen | 'scuse you! |
| 16:48.26 | Sixen | p |
| 16:48.27 | Sixen | :p |
| 16:48.33 | nicoli_s | welcome back sixen |
| 16:48.39 | Zachet | Oh my! Sixen! |
| 16:48.43 | Zachet | I am so sorry sir. |
| 16:48.50 | Zachet | Please forgive my rude behavior. |
| 16:48.54 | Sixen | I've been sleeping in my Computer Lab |
| 16:48.57 | Sixen | I'm so tired o_o |
| 16:48.59 | Zachet | :O |
| 16:49.12 | Sixen | I had my head on my laptop bag and I was crashed out |
| 16:49.13 | Sixen | lol |
| 16:49.14 | nicoli_s | dude, i drove from atlanta at 6 am straight into work, IM TIRED |
| 16:49.20 | Sixen | :( |
| 16:50.24 | Bifuu | i woke up at noon, god life sucks |
| 16:50.25 | Bifuu | xD |
| 16:50.29 | Sixen | You poor thing |
| 16:51.27 | Bifuu | i still cant think of a map idea |
| 16:51.29 | Bifuu | this blows |
| 16:52.13 | Sixen | I have a cool idea. |
| 16:52.41 | PixelWarrior|Stu | bifuu, make me a megaman map |
| 16:52.47 | PixelWarrior|Stu | and i will love u |
| 16:52.50 | Zachet | That's what I am working on practically |
| 16:52.58 | Sixen | Bomberman :p |
| 16:53.00 | Bifuu | <---- never played Megaman |
| 16:53.04 | Zachet | O.o |
| 16:53.04 | PixelWarrior|Stu | T T |
| 16:53.10 | Sixen | Bif, make Minesweeper. |
| 16:53.10 | PixelWarrior|Stu | bomberman sounds awesome too |
| 16:53.18 | HaVoC373 | does anyone know how i can disable the idle animation for a unit? can i do that in the trigger editor or data? |
| 16:53.21 | Bifuu | oh god minesweeper |
| 16:53.23 | Sixen | lol |
| 16:53.28 | Bifuu | that game |
| 16:53.33 | Bifuu | after i quit WoW |
| 16:53.36 | Bifuu | thats all i played |
| 16:53.40 | Bifuu | for hours at a time |
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| 16:53.52 | PixelWarrior|Stu | guys, think about it, 14 player bomber man on a 256x256 map = WIN |
| 16:54.08 | Bifuu | sounds like the longest game of bomberman ever |
| 16:54.12 | nicoli_s | dude id love for a bomberman sc2 map |
| 16:54.23 | PixelWarrior|Stu | its gona be the next esport |
| 16:54.34 | PixelWarrior|Stu | people will compete over that shit |
| 16:54.46 | Skizot | OMG YOU GUYS |
| 16:54.46 | Skizot | I DID IT |
| 16:54.51 | Skizot | sort of. |
| 16:54.52 | Skizot | lol |
| 16:54.53 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 16:54.57 | PixelWarrior|Stu | wat did u do? |
| 16:55.05 | Zoxc | he found his keys |
| 16:55.06 | Bifuu | did you remember to wipe? |
| 16:55.07 | Skizot | tps style gun... sort of. |
| 16:55.20 | PixelWarrior|Stu | tps? |
| 16:55.33 | PixelWarrior|Stu | oh |
| 16:55.35 | PixelWarrior|Stu | 3rd p s |
| 16:55.37 | Bifuu | Threat per second.... duh |
| 16:55.54 | PixelWarrior|Stu | too much wow for u mate |
| 16:56.09 | Bifuu | i quit like a year ago tho |
| 16:56.27 | Bifuu | i just figured most people here have played it atleast once soooooo |
| 16:56.48 | PixelWarrior|Stu | yeah, wows always on and off for me |
| 16:56.56 | PixelWarrior|Stu | quit so many god damned times |
| 16:57.32 | Bifuu | i was too addicted to it so i made myself quit |
| 16:57.40 | Bifuu | i missed out on alot of shit because of it |
| 16:58.04 | PixelWarrior|Stu | like ur youth? LOL |
| 16:58.09 | Bifuu | even tho its my fault to begin with |
| 16:58.18 | Bifuu | pretty much |
| 16:58.47 | Zachet | So, anyone have any ideas how to make the idea of this trigger work properly without cycling through every single unit in a unit group, at the moment it crashs starcraft, ' http://pastebin.org/185588 ' |
| 16:59.27 | Sixen | Zachet, if you've got a trigger that is crashing SC2, post it up on the bug report forums at mapster |
| 16:59.42 | Zachet | Okay Dokay. |
| 17:00.15 | PixelWarrior|Stu | zach |
| 17:00.19 | PixelWarrior|Stu | wats in ur power up group? |
| 17:00.20 | Zachet | Sir Pixel. |
| 17:00.35 | Sixen | thanks |
| 17:00.36 | Sixen | :D |
| 17:00.44 | Zachet | Every time a ' powerup ' unit drops, it adds it |
| 17:00.45 | Zachet | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.53 | Sixen | Any idea what's crashing it? |
| 17:01.00 | Zachet | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.06 | PixelWarrior|Stu | code looks bad |
| 17:01.21 | PixelWarrior|Stu | unit hero enters disntance of 1.0 |
| 17:01.27 | PixelWarrior|Stu | so ur hero is ur triggering unit |
| 17:01.32 | Zachet | Correct. |
| 17:01.39 | PixelWarrior|Stu | then u try to remove the hero from the game? |
| 17:01.39 | Zachet | I am aware that is a problem itself |
| 17:02.04 | Zachet | Well It would be attempting to remove hero from a unit group which he is not in |
| 17:02.12 | PixelWarrior|Stu | yeah.. |
| 17:02.21 | Zachet | hmmm |
| 17:02.29 | Zachet | But there's no other way to choose the triggering unit in unit group |
| 17:02.41 | Zachet | I guess I have no choice but to cycle |
| 17:02.42 | Zachet | through each unit |
| 17:02.49 | PixelWarrior|Stu | so u actually wanna remove the ammo |
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| 17:03.01 | Zachet | Correcct. |
| 17:03.04 | PixelWarrior|Stu | after filling up the heroes magazine |
| 17:03.28 | PixelWarrior|Stu | and are u trying to remove the ammo also in live 7 from the powerupgroup? |
| 17:03.43 | PixelWarrior|Stu | im going to treat powerupgroup as a pile of ammo for now coz im not sure what it is |
| 17:03.53 | Zachet | I'll post both things one second |
| 17:04.08 | Bifuu | is almost tempted to just make another TD map lolol |
| 17:04.28 | PixelWarrior|Stu | bif, u dont like the bomberman idea? =( |
| 17:04.33 | Zachet | http://pastebin.org/185606 |
| 17:04.43 | Bifuu | not that large of a map |
| 17:04.43 | Zachet | Ammo is a unit that is created on a chance when a unit dies |
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| 17:04.58 | Zachet | and added to an empty powerupgroup |
| 17:05.18 | PixelWarrior|Stu | and the ammo is live! |
| 17:05.22 | PixelWarrior|Stu | (get it? XD) |
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| 17:05.33 | Zachet | lol |
| 17:05.51 | Zachet | If I didn't make it live it would require real knowledge of the data editor |
| 17:05.53 | Zachet | :) |
| 17:05.59 | PixelWarrior|Stu | umm |
| 17:06.01 | PixelWarrior|Stu | maybe... |
| 17:06.04 | PixelWarrior|Stu | u can create a point |
| 17:06.14 | PixelWarrior|Stu | attach the point the the power up group |
| 17:06.15 | Zachet | It's a unit with a model of a landing light |
| 17:06.26 | Bifuu | im trying to remember all the games ive tried to make in the past |
| 17:06.49 | PixelWarrior|Stu | detect range via point |
| 17:07.16 | PixelWarrior|Stu | then just remove powerupgroup altogether lol |
| 17:07.47 | Zachet | Well the thing is there could be more than one powerup down at a time |
| 17:08.10 | Zachet | I'll just create an array or something and look through it |
| 17:08.16 | Zachet | loop |
| 17:08.16 | PixelWarrior|Stu | but ure only dropping 1 per death |
| 17:08.37 | PixelWarrior|Stu | and is ur ammo a unit? |
| 17:08.44 | Zachet | Yes |
| 17:08.47 | Zachet | So are the missles |
| 17:08.49 | Zachet | everything is a unit |
| 17:08.50 | Zachet | :) |
| 17:09.08 | PixelWarrior|Stu | umm |
| 17:09.31 | PixelWarrior|Stu | set a variable to the ammo unit, then i think u can directly select the ammo |
| 17:09.52 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i know that isnt exactly wat u want, but lets try to make something work without it crashin first =D |
| 17:09.59 | Zachet | yeah |
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| 17:10.20 | PixelWarrior|Stu | if all else fails, just dump one on the map with the terrain editor and check if that works |
| 17:10.29 | PixelWarrior|Stu | just to check if the hero actually picks it up |
| 17:10.33 | Paras1te | I'm working on UI of my TD map, what do you think so far? : |
| 17:10.34 | Paras1te | http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6328/sc2nv.jpg |
| 17:10.47 | PixelWarrior|Stu | oh wow |
| 17:10.49 | PixelWarrior|Stu | thats nice |
| 17:10.55 | nicoli_s | very cool |
| 17:11.06 | PixelWarrior|Stu | reminds me of that TD game that i actually spent money to buy... |
| 17:11.10 | Akkernight | So it doesn't work to issue move orders via the trigger editor to ground units, or is this only for me? |
| 17:11.12 | PixelWarrior|Stu | forgot wat it was called |
| 17:11.18 | monoframe | You could try scaling the windows abit, there is some empty space S: |
| 17:11.31 | HaVoC373 | does anyone know how i can turn off the idle animation for a unit? |
| 17:11.36 | Paras1te | more upgrades and stuff coming ;) |
| 17:11.42 | monoframe | Considering those won't include tower description |
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| 17:11.56 | Magnevv | HavoC373: look in the fidget data on the unit, I think you can do it there |
| 17:12.04 | HaVoC373 | k thx |
| 17:12.05 | supmeow | looking good Paras1te |
| 17:12.18 | PixelWarrior|Stu | Defense Grid! |
| 17:12.20 | PixelWarrior|Stu | thats it |
| 17:12.27 | Skizot | DiNo29 |
| 17:12.35 | Skizot | did you ever figure out marker +? |
| 17:12.47 | PixelWarrior|Stu | parasite: http://store.steampowered.com/app/18500/ if u want some ideas |
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| 17:13.21 | Paras1te | Yeah, I have this game :D |
| 17:13.26 | PixelWarrior|Stu | lol |
| 17:13.34 | PixelWarrior|Stu | did u foolishly buy it like i did? XD |
| 17:14.02 | Paras1te | Steam Christmas Sales? |
| 17:14.15 | PixelWarrior|Stu | actually i think i mightve purchased it then too |
| 17:14.27 | PixelWarrior|Stu | coz i cant imagine myself spending that much on a TD lol |
| 17:14.55 | PixelWarrior|Stu | omg startrek online? |
| 17:15.22 | Fisker | Paras1te |
| 17:15.24 | Fisker | you should add ranges |
| 17:15.26 | monoframe | I hope Blizzard Marketplace will have special cuts on prices during holidays :P or just at random |
| 17:15.32 | HaVoC373 | Magnevv it didnt work, i found a way to turn it off in the actor but then when my ship takes off the animation doesnt turn back on :( |
| 17:15.34 | Paras1te | I will |
| 17:15.49 | Paras1te | Just adding those valuse is so painful process |
| 17:16.04 | Crazafied | why would UI - Display (Text(((pCurrentHealth / pMaxHealth) * 300))) for (All players) to Subtitle area show up as zero with 40 = pcurrenthealth and 35 = pmaxhealth? |
| 17:16.23 | Magnevv | Does anyone know a way to use the keys 0-9 for spell hotkeys? The default hotkeys seem to overwrite them so nothing happens when I attach the hotkey to an ability/button |
| 17:16.55 | Sixen | Magnevv, can you set it in the spell data itself? Or are you just trying to do it in the Text Editor? |
| 17:17.28 | Magnevv | I'm doing it in the datafield "hotkey" for the button |
| 17:17.39 | Skizot | anyone know how to make an ability target the ground? |
| 17:18.00 | PixelWarrior|Stu | skiz: like psi storm? |
| 17:18.02 | Akkernight | So again, does anyone know why only the air units are responding to Trigger Editor move commands and not the ground units? |
| 17:18.24 | Sixen | Akkernight, are the ground units able to move? |
| 17:18.25 | PixelWarrior|Stu | akker: move commands? |
| 17:18.44 | PixelWarrior|Stu | did u diplicate that ground unit? |
| 17:18.52 | Akkernight | Sixen: I havn't modified them.. Anything else I should check? |
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| 17:19.14 | Akkernight | PixelWarrior|Stu: I did create 5 marines, and then told them to move with Issue Order |
| 17:19.23 | PixelWarrior|Stu | oh |
| 17:19.38 | PixelWarrior|Stu | care to paste ur issue action here? |
| 17:19.59 | OverSky | I can't get unt ability cooldowns working, it asks for a string as one of the parameters.. what string does it want? |
| 17:20.43 | Akkernight | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:20.56 | Sixen | hey vjeux |
| 17:21.02 | vjeux | heya |
| 17:21.05 | Magnevv | Skizot, look for target filters in the ability |
| 17:21.37 | PixelWarrior|Stu | im assuming the event is unit enter region? |
| 17:21.46 | peterpants | anyone know how to make a behavior periodically cast a spell on a point away from the unit with the behavior |
| 17:21.56 | Paras1te | http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/341/sc22q.jpg |
| 17:21.56 | Paras1te | God... 3 days and only 6 towers... ahhh! : |
| 17:22.18 | Zbyszek | i di 4 levels in 2 days |
| 17:22.22 | PixelWarrior|Stu | thats one fat turret |
| 17:22.23 | Zbyszek | in my escape |
| 17:22.46 | Akkernight | PixelWarrior|Stu: yeah, the event is, Any unit enters region |
| 17:22.54 | monoframe | Did anyone make Terratron yet? |
| 17:23.01 | Akkernight | PixelWarrior|Stu: it works well for airborne units, with no changes |
| 17:23.16 | PixelWarrior|Stu | does ur trigger have a condition? |
| 17:23.24 | DiNo29 | meh, I give up |
| 17:23.25 | Akkernight | PixelWarrior|Stu: no |
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| 17:23.42 | DiNo29 | I'll release my map and hope someone find what the last problem is |
| 17:24.33 | PixelWarrior|Stu | akk: im not sure |
| 17:25.25 | Akkernight | PixelWarrior|Stu: other people have made ground units move? |
| 17:25.30 | PixelWarrior|Stu | yeah |
| 17:25.36 | PixelWarrior|Stu | i have half of my aos map done |
| 17:25.40 | PixelWarrior|Stu | and all my units move fine |
| 17:26.04 | Zachet | Meh I wish there was a ' enters from distance of X from (ANY unit in unit group ) ' rather than ' from (RANDOM unit in unit group) as events grab the information once and do not hold dynamic values making it useless |
| 17:26.41 | Skizot | shit |
| 17:26.56 | Paras1te | PixelWarrior|Stu: half done? You mean heroes also? |
| 17:27.22 | PixelWarrior|Stu | half of creeps, and half of terrain LOL |
| 17:27.42 | PixelWarrior|Stu | im holding back on heroes, until i know more about heroes |
| 17:27.51 | Paras1te | screenies pl0x ;p |
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| 17:28.01 | Sixen | Pixel, Bifuu posted up a nice tutorial on heroes |
| 17:28.16 | hijunkie | Hello everybody! |
| 17:28.28 | PixelWarrior|Stu | sixen: yeah ive got that bookmarked, havent gotten a chance to get around to it yet |
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| 17:28.49 | Bifuu | *gasp* Not yet?!?!?! |
| 17:28.51 | Bifuu | lol j/k |
| 17:29.00 | PixelWarrior|Stu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.00 | Zbyszek | we need two people for playning custom maps |
| 17:29.16 | Paras1te | if you tell me how, im in |
| 17:29.20 | Bifuu | ive been staring at my screen for the past 10 minutes just thinking |
| 17:29.33 | hijunkie | I'd help out too... |
| 17:29.37 | Bifuu | while sniffing empty Vitamin water bottles |
| 17:29.39 | PixelWarrior|Stu | zbysz: what are u building? |
| 17:29.45 | Zbyszek | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-custom-map-patcher/ |
| 17:29.52 | hijunkie | Anyone know how to adjust computer difficulties? |
| 17:30.01 | Habladabla | we want to test some 4player tower defense |
| 17:30.17 | Paras1te | Im ready |
| 17:30.22 | Zbyszek | nick? |
| 17:30.25 | Habladabla | your name on bnet? |
| 17:32.40 | Skizot | i'll play hab |
| 17:32.47 | Skizot | i'm bored and VERY angry at my map. |
| 17:32.56 | Habladabla | hehe, your name on bnet? |
| 17:32.57 | Skizot | i might need a reboot for it to magically start working |
| 17:33.00 | DiNo29 | Grum ? |
| 17:33.01 | Skizot | skizot.prtwo |
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| 17:34.00 | Paras1te | Habladabla: map link? |
| 17:34.00 | DiNo29 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/chain-lightning-data-editor/ << Data Editor only chain lightning Ability. Download, enjoy, and help me found what's causing that one last bug T_T |
| 17:34.09 | griffith` | is therehttp://i41.tinypic.com/xf9b9g.png <-- where is this box coming from |
| 17:34.11 | Sixen | gotta go take a Final, be back soon |
| 17:34.12 | Paras1te | Habladabla: my bnet nick - Parasite |
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| 17:35.23 | DiNo29 | griffith` : Modification + |
| 17:35.41 | griffith` | ah |
| 17:35.41 | griffith` | thanks |
| 17:35.45 | griffith` | i had to scroll it down |
| 17:35.49 | griffith` | the scroll bar was invisible |
| 17:35.49 | griffith` | lol |
| 17:36.52 | hijunkie | Anyone know how to change computer difficulty from very easy? |
| 17:36.55 | DiNo29 | hmmm, about my chain lightning, sometime the origin is good and sometimes it's off .... so it has a random origin ... why the fuck T_T |
| 17:37.08 | DiNo29 | you can't hijunkie, blizzard only implemented Very Easy AI for now |
| 17:37.27 | Skizot | Habladabla |
| 17:37.32 | Skizot | i'm ingame :/ |
| 17:37.42 | Habladabla | add me then Rakowskey.kurupted |
| 17:37.43 | Dustin | Sup people |
| 17:37.45 | Habladabla | oh wait |
| 17:37.48 | Habladabla | you're from US? |
| 17:38.02 | Skizot | yes? |
| 17:38.05 | Habladabla | doh |
| 17:38.06 | Habladabla | :P |
| 17:38.13 | Tehwildcard | INFIDEL |
| 17:38.25 | Habladabla | We won't be able to play then |
| 17:38.44 | DiNo29 | Nobody checked out my chain lightning ? D: |
| 17:39.30 | Dustin | Dino, link me |
| 17:39.57 | Habladabla | one more for some tower defense play on bnet, European beta plx |
| 17:40.13 | DiNo29 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/chain-lightning-data-editor/ |
| 17:40.16 | Dustin | Eww EU :P |
| 17:41.03 | PixelWarrior|Stu | dino: i will check it out just before i go bed |
| 17:41.09 | PixelWarrior|Stu | which is now |
| 17:42.23 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/chain-lightning-data-editor/. Chain Lightning (data editor). DiNo29 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 17:43.04 | Dustin | nice dino |
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| 17:43.13 | Dustin | that all done with the Data editor? |
| 17:43.17 | DiNo29 | yeah :) |
| 17:43.36 | DiNo29 | missile, area search, damage and set effects ^^ |
| 17:43.43 | Tehwildcard | "We're sorry. It seems there is a problem. Please try using Gmail with a supported browser." |
| 17:43.46 | Tehwildcard | ^ with chrome |
| 17:43.54 | DiNo29 | lol |
| 17:44.15 | Dustin | Nice |
| 17:44.24 | DiNo29 | I had to create a "Target Sort" type object in the data editor too |
| 17:44.47 | Dustin | It seems to search funny |
| 17:44.53 | Dustin | Is it not closest unit? |
| 17:45.11 | Zbyszek | anyobdy up for testing? |
| 17:45.22 | Dustin | Testing what? |
| 17:45.23 | JamesObscura_ | How do I turn off the upgrade requirement for concussive shells? |
| 17:45.26 | DiNo29 | nah I let it to random unit in range for now |
| 17:45.37 | Dustin | It likes to grab the same everytime |
| 17:45.43 | Zbyszek | maps |
| 17:45.46 | DiNo29 | :o |
| 17:45.54 | Magnevv | Hey DiNo29, for my thirdborn child... Do you have any idea how I can bind the 0-9 hotkeys to abilities? I've set the button to do it, but it's not responding. The other hotkeys work fine |
| 17:45.56 | DiNo29 | you checked "use non randoms seeds" ? :p |
| 17:46.18 | Dustin | UsE Fixed Random Seeds is alwasy unchecked for me :P |
| 17:46.42 | DiNo29 | huu, maybe 1-9 can't be assigned cause it's unit groups stuff ^^ |
| 17:47.21 | Dustin | they should work |
| 17:47.24 | DiNo29 | Actually I didn't set any target choosing behavior for now apart from "units without chain lightning buff", I assumed default was random |
| 17:47.30 | Dustin | Id think they'd override the ingame stuff |
| 17:47.35 | Cronos | Why dont doodads animate in game? do you have to set something ? |
| 17:47.56 | DiNo29 | Maybe it picks the closest units that haven't been hit by chainlightning in the last 2 seconds (my buff) ? |
| 17:47.57 | Cronos | I have floodlights that spin and in game the dont move |
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| 17:48.55 | PixelWarrior|Stu | dino |
| 17:49.00 | DiNo29 | so Dustin, help me now :D ! Check in the actor settings if you see any reason for the beam origin to be so off |
| 17:49.01 | PixelWarrior|Stu | wheres the actual bouncing bit stored? |
| 17:49.04 | DiNo29 | (it's off for you too right ?) |
| 17:49.06 | Chevron | anybody up for testing? |
| 17:49.14 | DiNo29 | what do you mean ? |
| 17:49.26 | DiNo29 | how it choose the next target ? |
| 17:49.30 | Cronos | humm maybe thats game settings .. might need ultra grapics to animate in game |
| 17:49.37 | PixelWarrior|Stu | dino the original beam is good for me |
| 17:49.42 | PixelWarrior|Stu | the bounces look a bit off |
| 17:49.51 | Dopelives | Hey guys, can someone tell me how to remove fog of war from a custom map? To make you see the entire map all the time. |
| 17:49.52 | DiNo29 | yeah, I mean the bounces' point of origin |
| 17:49.56 | DiNo29 | and it's totally random |
| 17:50.03 | DiNo29 | sometimes they are almost perfect, sometimes a lot off |
| 17:50.11 | PixelWarrior|Stu | so im trying to look for the model/actors for that |
| 17:50.41 | PixelWarrior|Stu | is it all the archonattack2, archonattack22 archonattack222 archonattack22222 |
| 17:50.49 | Dustin | I havent fucked with the Data editor enough to mess that with Dino :P |
| 17:50.53 | DiNo29 | I have one actor for each bounce : Lightning Beam 1-5 |
| 17:51.01 | DiNo29 | but only one model |
| 17:51.04 | Barter | does anyone know how to use multiple of the same weapon? If I add 3 of the same it only counts as one, if its different weapons it works fine |
| 17:51.05 | Dustin | I could code you up a Chain Lightning spell fast though hehe |
| 17:51.11 | griffith` | I've having the problem where SC2 loading is constantly flickering |
| 17:51.14 | griffith` | anyone know |
| 17:51.14 | DiNo29 | model : Archon Attack Beam |
| 17:51.23 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/scv-war/. SCV War. Preyed (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
| 17:51.23 | Dustin | griffith` I was having that problem |
| 17:51.31 | Dustin | but when it starts doing that it kills my computer :P |
| 17:52.34 | Bifuu | DiNo29: im looking at it aswell but i hate actors so dont count on me xD |
| 17:52.40 | DiNo29 | lol |
| 17:52.56 | DiNo29 | Grum was eagear to look at it too, come back Grum ! :D |
| 17:53.15 | PixelWarrior|Stu | the original one has actor type beam (simple) |
| 17:53.18 | griffith` | Dustin, how did you fix it |
| 17:53.18 | PixelWarrior|Stu | but the rest are actions |
| 17:53.20 | Magnevv | Yeah Dustin, I'd assume you'd be able to overwrite the stuff aswell |
| 17:53.22 | PixelWarrior|Stu | what does that mean? |
| 17:53.36 | Dustin | Griffith, I havent yet, it still randomyl happens |
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| 17:53.45 | HaVoC373 | how do i remove an actor from a unit? |
| 17:54.00 | DiNo29 | a beam is assigned to an action : when the action is executed, the beam extends from the action's origin to the action's target |
| 17:54.13 | DiNo29 | (action actor) |
| 17:54.14 | Terex | Maybe vice-versa - unbind unit from actor? |
| 17:54.23 | HaVoC373 | how? |
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| 17:54.40 | uBdead | hey everbody |
| 17:55.06 | Dustin | heya |
| 17:55.08 | DiNo29 | hey uBdead, check my map out :p |
| 17:55.14 | uBdead | liiiinnnk |
| 17:55.16 | uBdead | ;D |
| 17:55.21 | DiNo29 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/chain-lightning-data-editor/ |
| 17:55.49 | uBdead | ok well you tell me how to link a Weapon to an Effect |
| 17:55.52 | uBdead | because i dont see it |
| 17:56.15 | Terex | Any comments about my melee 1x1 128x128 map? http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9457/map2x.jpg |
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| 17:56.38 | griffith` | any idea how to change the game to fullscreen windowed mode without launching the game |
| 17:56.49 | griffith` | because right now by default it launches full screen and constantly flickers |
| 17:56.51 | DiNo29 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.07 | uBdead | i altered the probe attack |
| 17:57.20 | uBdead | by doing a new version of the Weapon |
| 17:57.23 | monoframe | griffith, try command line properties s: |
| 17:57.27 | uBdead | but it lost the link to the effect |
| 17:57.31 | griffith` | monoframe, what do you mean |
| 17:57.34 | monoframe | Though don't know what to add exactly |
| 17:57.41 | HaVoC373 | seriously i cannot get rid of this actor in my unit. it needs to go |
| 17:57.45 | monoframe | wait a sec |
| 17:57.46 | monoframe | I'll check |
| 17:57.47 | uBdead | its easy |
| 17:57.50 | HaVoC373 | anyone got any thoughts? |
| 17:58.03 | DiNo29 | uBdead : in weapon's property : (None) - Effect |
| 17:58.06 | uBdead | file > preferences > test document > start in full screen off |
| 17:58.08 | AgentPaper | hm, when you convert to integer from real, does it round or truncate? |
| 17:58.44 | uBdead | ok i have Probe - Mega Particle Beam |
| 17:58.45 | BossMonkey | AgentPaper: my bet is rounds down. |
| 17:58.55 | AgentPaper | truncate, yeah |
| 17:59.02 | AgentPaper | k, gunna just assume it does for now |
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| 17:59.17 | BossMonkey | AgentPaper: just test it with a few values to see what it does. |
| 17:59.18 | uBdead | so that should be ok |
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| 17:59.23 | griffith` | k I can't find the commandline for windowed mode |
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| 17:59.30 | heysparky | Howdy folks. |
| 17:59.34 | DiNo29 | oh uBdead, when you sa you lost the effect, you meant damage effect or visual effect ? |
| 18:00.03 | Skizot | weiiirrrddd |
| 18:00.11 | Skizot | if i'm in RTS view |
| 18:00.15 | Bifuu | Terex: My only comment for your 1v1 melee is the natural expansion is a high yield patch? O.o |
| 18:00.21 | Skizot | the mouse x y z works GREAT |
| 18:00.36 | Skizot | if the unit is .01 higher than me it doesn't count :/ |
| 18:00.37 | Zachet | I am trying to get this, ' http://pastebin.org/185718 ' trigger to event correctly off any unit in a unit group, any unit owned by player 15, etc... may have to resort to a timer |
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| 18:00.44 | Shadowclaimer | Oh wow |
| 18:00.45 | Shadowclaimer | Hello everyone |
| 18:00.50 | Bifuu | hi |
| 18:00.54 | nicoli_s | welcome |
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| 18:01.07 | Shadowclaimer | This is the SC2 Galaxy Editor related channel correct? |
| 18:01.14 | Zachet | Yes sir |
| 18:01.18 | Shadowclaimer | I didn't end up in an alternate universe or anything |
| 18:01.32 | Zachet | you came in just in time to look at my problem and act like you're interested |
| 18:01.38 | Dermonth | Hey guys, I'm new here, am I allowed to ask for some help with the SC2 editor in here? |
| 18:01.41 | Terex__ | Yes, 3 high-yeld, 2 normal + 2 base |
| 18:01.42 | Shadowclaimer | Works for me, as long as you'll look at my problem |
| 18:01.50 | Zachet | Oh, snap! |
| 18:02.09 | Zachet | Whats your problem homes? |
| 18:02.16 | Shadowclaimer | I need to find a good tutorial for dialogs and such.. currently have a working health bar on the UI for my unit but the rest is lack of basic knowledge |
| 18:02.29 | Shadowclaimer | Dialogs are really easy to mess up.. |
| 18:02.50 | Zachet | Tutorials are limited at the moment *insert sad face* as most people are just experimenting personally and not recording information |
| 18:02.51 | Terex__ | Bifuu, should I replace 2 lower with normal minerals? |
| 18:03.51 | Dermonth | I got a really simple and probably silly question, but I'm new to this stuff so: Is it possible to remove fog of war? To make it so that you can see all of the map at all time |
| 18:03.51 | Shadowclaimer | Map Initialize Trigger, action Enable/Disable Fog of War (under Game category) |
| 18:03.51 | heysparky | is there somewhere that tutorials are being collected? |
| 18:03.51 | Shadowclaimer | Well this one guy has a minor site where he's posting some as he works on a TD |
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| 18:03.51 | heysparky | so, no |
| 18:03.51 | heysparky | not really |
| 18:03.54 | Dermonth | Thank you Shadowclaimer |
| 18:03.54 | Zachet | There's a few threads on official forums and Sc2mapster.com > Forums > tutorials |
| 18:03.54 | Shadowclaimer | nope not really |
| 18:03.55 | Habladabla | Anyone here played a bit with conversations ? |
| 18:04.18 | heysparky | i'll go knock around in the official forums |
| 18:04.18 | Shadowclaimer | Currently I've got a working 3rd person driver with acceleration, brakes, etc. all working correctly.. |
| 18:04.20 | Bifuu | Terex__: its your choice but high end players dont like money maps, and having an easily obtainable high yield is pretty money mapish |
| 18:04.35 | Bifuu | high yields should be in places that can easily be contested |
| 18:04.37 | Shadowclaimer | Problems are boiling down to the Mouse Coordinate fun |
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| 18:05.01 | Zachet | Anyone have any ideas to get this to work without resorting to a timer? http://pastebin.org/185718 |
| 18:05.05 | Terex__ | Thank you Bifuu. |
| 18:05.29 | Shadowclaimer | Whats wrong wit htimers ;D |
| 18:05.32 | Shadowclaimer | with timers* |
| 18:05.41 | Terex__ | Is the standart mineral size 8 nodes? |
| 18:05.43 | Zachet | Too many are ineffecient I would thin |
| 18:05.49 | Shadowclaimer | Pfft inefficient.. |
| 18:05.51 | Zachet | lol |
| 18:05.56 | Bifuu | Also another thing, The hills that are behind the mains, if they are open for things to be dropped on to, The top one needs more trees to match the bottom one, |
| 18:06.00 | Shadowclaimer | In my day we coded VB programs with 50 timers just to make a text box blink once! |
| 18:06.04 | hijunkie | What's the Custome Script Code wrote in? |
| 18:06.13 | Bifuu | Terex__: yes 8, high yeild is 6 |
| 18:06.30 | griffith` | once i get my hero to pick up an item |
| 18:06.33 | Zachet | hahaha |
| 18:06.33 | griffith` | there is no inventory box |
| 18:06.36 | griffith` | like there is in wc3 |
| 18:06.50 | Zachet | Well... |
| 18:06.54 | Shadowclaimer | I believe you haev to use dialogs to make an inventory |
| 18:06.57 | Zachet | Ima just user a timer to get over with it than |
| 18:07.01 | hijunkie | You could have it add a ability once you pick an item up... |
| 18:07.01 | BossMonkey | Shadowclaimer: in my day we coded in assembly and liked it. |
| 18:07.11 | Bifuu | there is an inventory |
| 18:07.11 | Shadowclaimer | Bossmonkey that's not nice, you don't bring that kinda stuff up |
| 18:07.20 | Shadowclaimer | Some of us still lose sleep over that |
| 18:07.22 | BossMonkey | Shadowclaimer: LOVE HTE ASSEMBLY! |
| 18:07.30 | Shadowclaimer | BossMonkey: NO |
| 18:07.44 | BossMonkey | Shadowclaimer: i was actually making a tetris game in my assembly class lol |
| 18:07.58 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 18:08.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ignorance (~daviddavi@ip98-164-217-125.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 18:08.03 | BossMonkey | Shadowclaimer: needless to say, it was not as fun as you'd think. |
| 18:08.04 | Ignorance | hello |
| 18:08.17 | Habladabla | hello ignorance lol |
| 18:08.18 | Bifuu | hey |
| 18:08.22 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/temple-garden/. Temple Garden. takyn (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 18:08.38 | Ignorance | No picture? :O |
| 18:09.20 | heysparky | yeah, no screens |
| 18:09.22 | heysparky | come on! |
| 18:09.26 | Shadowclaimer | Anyone willing to test what i have so far and give me some simple feedback =p |
| 18:09.30 | Ignorance | Yes. |
| 18:09.31 | Ignorance | I am. |
| 18:09.41 | Ignorance | Gimme. :) |
| 18:09.41 | Shadowclaimer | Ignorance you don't count, your name tells me that I should fear you |
| 18:09.47 | Shadowclaimer | Fine.. |
| 18:09.51 | Ignorance | Indeed you should. |
| 18:09.57 | Ignorance | For I am all-knowing. |
| 18:10.01 | BossMonkey | Ignorance: liar. |
| 18:10.08 | Ignorance | >_> |
| 18:10.11 | Ignorance | <_< |
| 18:10.14 | Ignorance | <_> |
| 18:10.42 | Shadowclaimer | klet me register an account for this site and post it real fast.. |
| 18:11.13 | Shadowclaimer | wait I'm already registered o.O |
| 18:11.20 | Shadowclaimer | oh duh curse network |
| 18:11.45 | Ignorance | yeah, makes me sad |
| 18:11.49 | DiNo29 | oh, curse network ... |
| 18:11.51 | Ignorance | because it's curse, I can't use my name :O |
| 18:11.54 | DiNo29 | I probably have 2 accounts then >_< |
| 18:11.59 | Bifuu | lol |
| 18:12.02 | Ignorance | so I went with Inscience instead. |
| 18:12.08 | nicoli_s | hey its not our fault we have millions of users...oh wait it is :P |
| 18:14.08 | uBdead | hey dino |
| 18:14.13 | uBdead | sorry somebody at the door |
| 18:14.20 | uBdead | i just lost the visual effect |
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| 18:14.58 | Shadowclaimer | whats a caveat.. |
| 18:15.04 | Shadowclaimer | its officially my word of the day now |
| 18:15.08 | BossMonkey | gooogle it |
| 18:15.15 | Shadowclaimer | I'm too lazy |
| 18:15.29 | Shadowclaimer | Fine.. |
| 18:15.38 | Shadowclaimer | it better not be gay porn related.. |
| 18:15.42 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hellion-blitz/. Hellion Blitz. Shadowclaimer (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
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| 18:15.46 | uBdead | lol wat |
| 18:15.48 | Shadowclaimer | ah warnings |
| 18:15.50 | Dustin | Caveat is like a warning |
| 18:16.04 | Shadowclaimer | I've never heard that word used before actually and I like to think I have an extensive vocabulary |
| 18:16.04 | heysparky | from the latin |
| 18:16.36 | Shadowclaimer | Alright so my map is uploaded now |
| 18:16.36 | BossMonkey | god i love bad company 2 |
| 18:16.39 | Shadowclaimer | at least its super alpha version |
| 18:16.45 | Shadowclaimer | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hellion-blitz/ |
| 18:17.14 | Shadowclaimer | its the drive test with working acceelration, friction, etc. |
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| 18:17.17 | Shadowclaimer | acceleration* |
| 18:17.40 | uBdead | hey guys i lost my visual effect for the particle beam, it seems to have lost the actor/models/sounds links |
| 18:17.49 | uBdead | i made a new object |
| 18:18.14 | uBdead | so i made a new probe, a new actor, a new weapon, and new weapon dmg effect |
| 18:18.27 | uBdead | but cant seem to link the visual effect to the actor |
| 18:18.28 | jack__ | anyone have a good example of leaderboard construction and manipulation? |
| 18:18.33 | uBdead | yes jack |
| 18:18.34 | uBdead | i have |
| 18:18.45 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/jungle-struggle/. Jungle struggle. Terexxx (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 18:18.51 | jack__ | can you get it to me somehow? |
| 18:18.59 | Ignorance | Shadowclaimer: Camera's a little buggy when you reach edges. Breaking should be more intuitive/necessary. Otherwise awesome. |
| 18:19.12 | Shadowclaimer | Thank you ignorance, the camera thing I'm not sure how to fix yet, still working on it |
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| 18:19.18 | Shadowclaimer | Braking is a new feature, needs to be heavier |
| 18:19.22 | Ignorance | I'll take a look. |
| 18:19.23 | uBdead | yes ill upload it |
| 18:19.26 | uBdead | one second |
| 18:19.34 | uBdead | http://www.filedropper.com/leaderboard |
| 18:19.41 | uBdead | (no credits to me) |
| 18:19.50 | uBdead | all work done by pom.pom |
| 18:20.02 | Shadowclaimer | Hoping to eventually have the shooting code working "again" I had the mouse hooked up for looking around and the turret tracking the mouse, so it'd turn and face wherever you were looking |
| 18:20.03 | jack__ | thanks |
| 18:20.11 | Shadowclaimer | Then the game would shoot at the angle the turret was facing +5 or so |
| 18:20.18 | Shadowclaimer | worked alright but way too restrictive |
| 18:20.43 | Shadowclaimer | so hoping to overhaul it and have it shoot exactly where you're looking which is a pain given the lack of Event-related mouse stuff |
| 18:23.42 | griffith` | if I simply want to increase the damage dealt by a weapon by, say +50 damage, which of the weapons field do I set? |
| 18:24.01 | Terex__ | Anyone makes diablo-like games instead of shooters? |
| 18:24.21 | BossMonkey | griffith`: the one with (damage), its in effects |
| 18:24.49 | griffith` | BossMonkey, I'm at the Modification + screen, and I set it to a buff |
| 18:26.21 | Shadowclaimer | Ignorance I doubled the speed at which the brakes slow you down |
| 18:26.23 | Shadowclaimer | helps a lot |
| 18:26.26 | Shadowclaimer | Oh I remember why I came in here |
| 18:26.34 | Shadowclaimer | Does anyone know how I can make a copy of Move that makes the target not have to face it to use? |
| 18:26.39 | Shadowclaimer | So I can make something walk backwards or such |
| 18:27.27 | Shadowclaimer | Because my Backwards move code is being a bitch about it, basically since movement is relative to the unit's facing angle when you go in reverse (which is an issue order, move, -1 y from angle) it turns around then goes "oh shit now backwards is that way" and goes helicopter psycho on me |
| 18:28.13 | monoframe | Man...with SC2 terrain editor at hand 256x256 seems just too damn small D: looks like I'll have to use several maps S: |
| 18:28.22 | DiNo29 | loool Shadowclaimer |
| 18:28.31 | griffith` | zz doesn't work |
| 18:28.35 | griffith` | I can't even make an item that gives + damage |
| 18:28.35 | griffith` | lol |
| 18:28.45 | Shadowclaimer | Dino stop laughing at me xD its not my fault |
| 18:28.49 | Shadowclaimer | User error probably but still |
| 18:28.53 | Ignorance | awesome |
| 18:29.19 | Skystriker | Any chance someone can help me with http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/713-morphing-one-unit-to-another/? |
| 18:29.22 | Skystriker | Morphing one unit to another |
| 18:29.26 | Shadowclaimer | its not DIRECTLY my fault |
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| 18:29.38 | hijunkie | Instead of having to define an action for a single player # how do I set the parameter for all players? |
| 18:29.55 | Shadowclaimer | Hey Skystriker I'll take a shot at it, let me boot up galaxyeditor |
| 18:29.59 | hijunkie | Like to enable repairing of buildings later in game for player #... how do I set it for all players? |
| 18:30.01 | uBdead | try a "for each player loop" |
| 18:30.07 | uBdead | trigger is in Player groups |
| 18:30.42 | Skystriker | Thanks a bunch Shadowclaimer <3 |
| 18:31.02 | Shadowclaimer | np, I assume its just a data problem |
| 18:31.10 | Shadowclaimer | because the upgrade toewr defense code I helped a guy with worked fine on changing the model |
| 18:31.33 | Skystriker | I see |
| 18:31.35 | Skystriker | Thanks :) |
| 18:32.12 | Shadowclaimer | I'd say double check and triple check your individual unit data real fast |
| 18:32.18 | Shadowclaimer | and see if you're missing anything directly |
| 18:32.44 | Skystriker | Well tbh |
| 18:32.47 | Shadowclaimer | actually now that I think about it.. |
| 18:32.50 | Skystriker | I'm new to the editor as are we all |
| 18:32.52 | Shadowclaimer | maybe using the viking swap isn't a good idea |
| 18:33.01 | Shadowclaimer | but does that fully change the model or just run an animation? |
| 18:33.03 | Skystriker | I've gone over the fields many, many times before I asked for help xD |
| 18:33.11 | Skystriker | Uh |
| 18:33.14 | Skystriker | I'm not sure |
| 18:33.17 | Shadowclaimer | That could be the issue |
| 18:33.19 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 18:33.21 | Skystriker | I'm pretty sure it changes the model because |
| 18:33.31 | Skystriker | When I was just running basic preparation |
| 18:33.33 | Skystriker | I attached the ability |
| 18:33.36 | Skystriker | And changed nothing else |
| 18:33.39 | Skystriker | And I had my ghost riding a viking <_< |
| 18:33.41 | heysparky | hey, did the editor come with any maps to pick apart? I don't see any that are obvious. |
| 18:33.50 | Skystriker | Only the melee maps heysparky |
| 18:33.52 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 18:33.56 | Shadowclaimer | Ghost riding a viking.. |
| 18:33.57 | BossMonkey | heysparky: dont think so |
| 18:34.01 | Skystriker | It was amusing xD |
| 18:34.01 | Shadowclaimer | all of a sudden the epic pictures in my head |
| 18:34.09 | Skystriker | The dark templar on a viking was better tho |
| 18:34.09 | Skystriker | xD |
| 18:34.10 | uBdead | they need to upload the uberlisk map :) |
| 18:34.15 | Skystriker | with his cape swooshing out behind |
| 18:34.18 | heysparky | Boss and Sky: Thnaks |
| 18:34.30 | BossMonkey | uBdead: if we're lucky they may ship it as a UMS with SC2 |
| 18:34.40 | griffith` | I can't seem to remove the default weapon from my marine model, I've already set Weapons + to nothing |
| 18:34.56 | DiNo29 | ums ? |
| 18:35.00 | Shadowclaimer | hmm |
| 18:35.06 | DiNo29 | oh the uberlisk |
| 18:35.15 | Shadowclaimer | well Skystriker I'm not sure, I think it may be the viking, but it also appears that it may not be T.T |
| 18:35.20 | Shadowclaimer | the data editor isn't my thing |
| 18:35.23 | Shadowclaimer | I'm a trigger whore |
| 18:35.26 | Terex__ | You want him to have bare hands, griffith? |
| 18:35.44 | Skystriker | Fair enough |
| 18:35.51 | Skystriker | Triggers make much more sense |
| 18:35.52 | Skystriker | xD |
| 18:35.54 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 18:35.58 | griffith` | Terex__, yes |
| 18:36.00 | Skystriker | Easier to look at from a coding perspective :P |
| 18:36.03 | Shadowclaimer | all else fails and you don't give a damn about efficiency you can use triggers to swap up the model |
| 18:36.07 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 18:36.11 | JamesObscura_ | So I have a problem, I'm trying to make a marauder tower for my TD, but if I give him a pathing footprint he can't move or turn, if I don't, he causes pathing issues with the waves. Any protips? |
| 18:36.20 | heysparky | where the devil are the melee maps hidin? |
| 18:37.03 | heysparky | oh... wait... |
| 18:37.08 | Terex__ | i`m 99%sure it`s unreachable, coz the gun is a part of marine model, and changing it only changes projectile |
| 18:37.22 | Skystriker | Yea its not really an efficiency problem Shadowclaimer, but I'm making this map really to learn the editor |
| 18:37.39 | Skystriker | So I'm trying to figure out solutions to each problem instead of workarounds -if possible- |
| 18:37.45 | Shadowclaimer | Understandable |
| 18:37.50 | Skystriker | Like I wanted to put a bridge in and figured it was in the unimplemented terrain objects group |
| 18:37.51 | Shadowclaimer | Don't blame ya one bit =p |
| 18:37.54 | Skystriker | So I'm not bothering with that atm |
| 18:38.00 | Skystriker | This one though I feel should be muscle-throughable :P |
| 18:38.01 | Skystriker | xD |
| 18:38.14 | griffith` | Terex__, well is it possible to change the Marine's guass model to ghost's weapon model when I have the marine pick up the gauss weapon? |
| 18:38.53 | Skystriker | griffith`: have you tried swapping out their Weapon datas? |
| 18:38.59 | Skystriker | Idk if that affects models at all |
| 18:39.14 | griffith` | yeah i did |
| 18:39.15 | Skystriker | If the weapons are intrinsic to the models or attached to hardpoints |
| 18:39.40 | Shadowclaimer | well whats funny is you can remove parts by messing with actors |
| 18:39.43 | Shadowclaimer | so I'm trying to figure it out |
| 18:39.51 | Shadowclaimer | I did it to the Hellion actually |
| 18:39.55 | Shadowclaimer | had a couple pieces of it detached |
| 18:40.05 | Terex__ | I think yes, but after the hard work in 3ds Max. |
| 18:40.13 | Terex__ | Or not... |
| 18:40.27 | Terex__ | How you did it, shadowclaimer? |
| 18:40.39 | OverSky | I can't get unit ability cooldowns working... anyone use these yet? |
| 18:40.46 | Shadowclaimer | Double chceking it real fast, but it had something to do with me applying an actor to a unit that had something in that attachment point |
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| 18:40.54 | Shadowclaimer | was odd, had a floating turret that was detached and some plates detached |
| 18:40.57 | Shadowclaimer | going to try to reproduce it real fast |
| 18:41.00 | OverSky | Need help badly |
| 18:41.42 | Shadowclaimer | I think it only works for turrets |
| 18:41.43 | griffith` | how does damage (scaled) differ from damage (unscaled)? |
| 18:42.32 | Vaisnt | I need some camera help |
| 18:43.41 | DiNo29 | maybe one of them go through armor Shadowclaimer |
| 18:44.47 | Shadowclaimer | yea I can't reproduce it with the marine sadly |
| 18:45.03 | Shadowclaimer | probably iwll just have to have someone export the marine model, remove the weapon, and reimport it |
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| 18:45.28 | Skystriker | So Shadowclaimer, you didn't know what was going wrong with the viking transform, correct? |
| 18:45.39 | Skystriker | Or you think a trigger would be needed in addition to the change, or entirely replacing it? |
| 18:45.40 | Shadowclaimer | Correct |
| 18:45.42 | Skystriker | ok |
| 18:45.44 | Skystriker | ty |
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| 18:46.04 | Shadowclaimer | this top down shooter this guy did is amazing |
| 18:46.05 | Dustin | When I "Stop a Trigger" Does that kill the trigger for all players, or is it a player based thread thing? |
| 18:46.07 | Shadowclaimer | wish I knew how to make my UI work |
| 18:47.20 | Bifuu | ahf uck it ill make an rpg |
| 18:47.26 | Bifuu | i cant think of anything else |
| 18:47.51 | Terex__ | Sci-fi or fantazy? |
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| 18:47.58 | Jetset | hello everybody |
| 18:48.00 | Bifuu | fantasy |
| 18:48.06 | Vaisnt | I'm trying to get my camera to switch between different cameras and i'm not finding any options to do that with, any one know? |
| 18:48.18 | Dustin | Apply Camera |
| 18:48.20 | Jetset | apply camera? |
| 18:48.26 | Bifuu | magic |
| 18:48.34 | Jetset | ^^ that one too |
| 18:48.34 | monoframe | bifuu, magick* |
| 18:48.35 | Tehwildcard | secret magic |
| 18:48.44 | monoframe | Just for added occultism |
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| 18:49.01 | Shadowclaimer | So I have a question, if you're playing a vehicle tps, and there are like 10 weapons, do you want quake style 10 weapon slots, can have all weapons at the same time and swap betwen them with 1-0 or dwould you prefer only being able to have one weapon at a time and a button necessary ot pick htem up? |
| 18:49.05 | Bifuu | fuck that i use pixie dust |
| 18:49.45 | Jetset | I was actually wondering how easy it would be to do a fixed camera? A la a security cam. |
| 18:49.45 | monoframe | So was I saying when preparing my dishes, but with me - I used salt :| |
| 18:49.47 | Bifuu | the first one |
| 18:49.52 | Bifuu | kinda |
| 18:50.10 | Bifuu | actually the 2nd |
| 18:50.12 | griffith` | man I can't get my hero to actually equip the weapon I made |
| 18:50.13 | Bifuu | in confused |
| 18:50.22 | griffith` | Bifuu, I think i'm follownig your guide |
| 18:50.35 | Bifuu | griffith`: dont forget the pixie dust |
| 18:50.37 | Shadowclaimer | Basically only one weapon at a time and you have to pick them up on the map, or still piock them up on map but able to have all of them at once (lose them all if you die) |
| 18:50.44 | griffith` | ... |
| 18:50.47 | Jetset | what kind of pace do you want it? |
| 18:50.47 | Vaisnt | Thanks that helped alot. |
| 18:50.48 | Shadowclaimer | can still only have one active at at ime |
| 18:51.04 | Shadowclaimer | very fast paced |
| 18:51.07 | heysparky | shadowclaimer: one-at-a-time |
| 18:51.08 | Bifuu | griffith`: lol really uhhh what is it doing |
| 18:51.18 | Shadowclaimer | then I hit an issue.. |
| 18:51.20 | Shadowclaimer | what key picks up a weapon? |
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| 18:51.24 | Jetset | i would say single lot would be the best option |
| 18:51.25 | Shadowclaimer | q/e are taken and wasd are movement |
| 18:51.31 | Bifuu | F |
| 18:51.32 | griffith` | Bifuu, I removed the marine's default weapon, so there's like a blank icon and he can't attack |
| 18:51.32 | Shadowclaimer | F? |
| 18:51.35 | Shadowclaimer | alright thank you =p |
| 18:51.43 | Shadowclaimer | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hellion-blitz/ |
| 18:51.43 | Jetset | so, athe second one with a base weapon tho. |
| 18:51.48 | griffith` | Afterwards I have him pick up the ghost weapon, and it shows up in the inventory |
| 18:51.48 | Shadowclaimer | in the description it lists the weapon types etc. |
| 18:51.54 | griffith` | but the hero doesn't actually equip it |
| 18:52.16 | Bifuu | id you set the Weapon in Equip Weapon +? |
| 18:53.00 | Bifuu | btw Changing my mind, im doing a SCi Fi rpg so i can just steal the sc2 models =D |
| 18:53.04 | griffith` | yep, under Data Type Item right? |
| 18:53.11 | Bifuu | griffith`: yea |
| 18:53.21 | griffith` | yep, I set it |
| 18:53.30 | Bifuu | ok then the only other thing i can think of |
| 18:53.42 | Bifuu | is int he item container, make sure the slot is set to be an equip slot |
| 18:53.46 | Bifuu | if that is set |
| 18:53.48 | Bifuu | Save your map |
| 18:53.50 | Bifuu | Close GE |
| 18:53.53 | Bifuu | and relaunch it |
| 18:53.55 | Shadowclaimer | wtf boss bars.. |
| 18:53.58 | Shadowclaimer | wish I had seen this earlier |
| 18:53.58 | Bifuu | usually that fixes stuff |
| 18:54.01 | Shadowclaimer | this makes my life so much easier |
| 18:54.31 | Bifuu | Shadowclaimer: hey did you know there are boss bars? |
| 18:54.38 | Shadowclaimer | I hate you Bifuu |
| 18:54.40 | Shadowclaimer | but I love you |
| 18:54.41 | Bifuu | <3 |
| 18:54.42 | Shadowclaimer | <3 |
| 18:55.01 | Bifuu | E> my hearts are flat |
| 18:55.26 | Shadowclaimer | doesn't surprise me you heartless bastard |
| 18:55.31 | Bifuu | call me a nerd but i just thought of this |
| 18:55.32 | griffith` | let me double check |
| 18:55.38 | Bifuu | e>x<3 is possible! |
| 18:55.43 | Shadowclaimer | lol |
| 18:55.45 | TriGuN | lol |
| 18:55.59 | TriGuN | you can use the backwords 3 |
| 18:56.07 | TriGuN | or the euro sign |
| 18:56.13 | hijunkie | There a custom code to define Every Player within an "all player" group? |
| 18:56.25 | griffith` | ah, now it owrks |
| 18:56.26 | griffith` | thanks |
| 18:56.27 | heysparky | shadowclaimer: Wow, nice work |
| 18:56.36 | griffith` | I had a "Use Hallucination" requirement set up for no reason |
| 18:56.39 | Vailreth | ¦( |
| 18:56.41 | griffith` | probably miscliked some crap |
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| 18:57.00 | griffith` | Bifuu, how do you change the amount of damage the weapon does |
| 18:57.03 | Bifuu | hehe atleast its fixed |
| 18:57.04 | Shadowclaimer | Scmapper.ebrt's original tps code helped me out a lot, a friend of mine linked it in his forums and I originally used it directly copied, but once I got the concept I just coded it from scratch myself |
| 18:57.06 | griffith` | do you add a behaviour : attribute? |
| 18:57.11 | uBdead | nooooooooooooooooooo please dont crash on me GE after 2 hours of unsaved work Q_Q!!! |
| 18:57.12 | Bifuu | griffith`: Effect Damage |
| 18:57.17 | Shadowclaimer | I had to supertweak it to my use but I'm proud of it |
| 18:57.27 | Shadowclaimer | the acceleration code took me all dman morning to get owrking |
| 18:57.33 | heysparky | shadowclaimer: so you don't mind if I build on that? |
| 18:57.34 | griffith` | do you ahve to equip a behaviour? |
| 18:57.36 | Bifuu | you have ot make a new Effect Damage, then apply it to the weapon |
| 18:57.41 | Shadowclaimer | Doesn't bother me at all sir |
| 18:57.46 | griffith` | oh |
| 18:57.47 | FRoZeN | uBdead: wait for it |
| 18:57.49 | heysparky | (ma'am) |
| 18:57.58 | uBdead | but it's Frozen |
| 18:58.00 | uBdead | (get it) |
| 18:58.04 | Shadowclaimer | Just toss me and SCMapper.ebret some credit in there ;D (mam) |
| 18:58.10 | Shadowclaimer | ma'am* |
| 18:58.13 | Bifuu | or be lazy like me, in the complete map i just changed the Ghost's effect damage lol |
| 18:58.16 | uBdead | oh god it closed |
| 18:58.16 | griffith` | Effect Damage is under data Type EFfects? |
| 18:58.18 | uBdead | Q_Q |
| 18:58.25 | Shadowclaimer | right now trying to get the boss bars to work right.. |
| 18:58.32 | FRoZeN | some things in the GE specially data editor takes a lot of time to load and seems like they are frozen |
| 18:58.37 | uBdead | let me check for auto save lol |
| 18:58.50 | uBdead | nah it crashed lol |
| 18:58.53 | FRoZeN | :( |
| 18:59.00 | uBdead | np just a test map anyway |
| 18:59.27 | Shadowclaimer | wow these boss bars make me mad |
| 18:59.28 | griffith` | hm I can't find Effect DAmage |
| 18:59.30 | `228zip | Motive, I just posted the method you gave me |
| 18:59.30 | Shadowclaimer | this is so simple.. |
| 18:59.38 | `228zip | so that you don't have to mess with the trigger editor |
| 18:59.40 | `228zip | http://forum.sc2galaxy.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=210 |
| 18:59.43 | `228zip | it's in french |
| 18:59.49 | Shadowclaimer | I spent hours trying to get a damn health bar lined up and working.. |
| 18:59.50 | uBdead | Ok, dont click the "+" next to Attack in the ability screen |
| 18:59.52 | `228zip | Thought you'd like to be informed though |
| 19:00.48 | griffith` | Any idea where the Effect DAmage is? |
| 19:01.02 | Bifuu | griffith`: easy way to get to it, is go back to your weapon and you should see the Field for Effect set to it, just double click it like you are going to change it but instead of changing it hit the view button |
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| 19:02.26 | griffith` | hrm |
| 19:02.44 | Shadowclaimer | I need to study the Top Down Shooter and learn how he did his bars so nicely |
| 19:02.57 | Shadowclaimer | Mr TEC Ghost is a genius |
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| 19:03.31 | Akkernight | I made a custom script action but I can't make variables in it, why? |
| 19:04.03 | Xan | you can't give a variable a value while you declare it |
| 19:04.08 | Xan | you have to declare it first |
| 19:04.46 | uBdead | ok guys what the order of creating things if you want a custom unit from scratch |
| 19:05.03 | uBdead | unit -> actor -> model -> abil -> effect? |
| 19:05.39 | Terex__ | actor is model |
| 19:05.47 | Terex__ | as i know |
| 19:05.56 | Terex__ | and effect actor |
| 19:06.07 | uBdead | im not sure i know what you mean? |
| 19:06.18 | Terex__ | +algorithms, if you need them |
| 19:06.40 | Shadowclaimer | I am really getting tired of these crashes that don't make sense |
| 19:06.44 | Terex__ | I mean the actor is model + animation |
| 19:08.30 | uBdead | try autosave shadowclaimer xD |
| 19:08.49 | Shadowclaimer | It autosaves somehow on its own apparently |
| 19:08.54 | Shadowclaimer | always saves my ass |
| 19:09.09 | TriGuN | is protecting maps possible? |
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| 19:09.23 | Jetset | Does anyone need help with terraining? I think my brain's turned to mush staring at stupid triggers that should #@!$ing work. |
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| 19:09.41 | Jetset | lol |
| 19:09.51 | Zachet | I have a unit object in a variable, what would be the way to do a comparison to see if the unit object is a certain unit type? |
| 19:10.30 | Habladabla | fucking map ping doesn't want to go away after the objective is done >.> |
| 19:10.32 | *** part/#sc2mapster maphstra (~maphstra0@ti0005a380-0004.bb.online.no) |
| 19:10.54 | uBdead | Trigun protecting map will be done by blizzard if you upload it to them |
| 19:11.04 | TriGuN | hrm |
| 19:11.27 | uBdead | but im agianst map protection to be honest |
| 19:11.34 | TriGuN | why? |
| 19:11.48 | uBdead | the community needs good examples |
| 19:11.50 | TriGuN | its so there isnt fuckign 80209382203 varients of your map |
| 19:11.53 | TriGuN | such as |
| 19:11.57 | Zachet | c |
| 19:11.59 | TriGuN | cat and mouse |
| 19:12.03 | TriGuN | turret d |
| 19:12.07 | TriGuN | tree D |
| 19:12.11 | uBdead | i dont see the problem |
| 19:12.13 | TriGuN | income D |
| 19:12.23 | Habladabla | world war 2 :D |
| 19:12.26 | TriGuN | its a bitch to dl 50 difernt maps becuase of a small change |
| 19:12.38 | monoframe | ... |
| 19:12.39 | uBdead | the maps are downloaded automaticly anyway |
| 19:13.01 | TriGuN | yeah but still |
| 19:13.08 | TriGuN | ALSO |
| 19:13.13 | TriGuN | for all you bounders |
| 19:13.25 | uBdead | blizzard has map validation |
| 19:13.29 | Habladabla | yes but then you end up with 50 different versions of the same up, try to host a game with the right one |
| 19:13.33 | Zachet | So is there no way to do that than? |
| 19:13.34 | TriGuN | im currently testing a bound and its awesome |
| 19:14.59 | hijunkie | Anyone figure out what defines the Very Easy and up? Is it specifically coded for build/assault considerations, or just how quickly the AI can respond/build... |
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| 19:16.30 | uBdead | making a unit from scatch is harder then it looked lol |
| 19:17.24 | nicoli_s | there is a tutorial on sc2mapster for making a unit from scratch |
| 19:17.35 | Jetset | I wanna make a maul! |
| 19:17.49 | Jetset | you can import them from wc3 right? |
| 19:17.54 | TriGuN | dear uber mappers! |
| 19:18.02 | TriGuN | nicoli |
| 19:18.15 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 19:18.38 | TriGuN | if someone comes in here asking " why if i make a unit and try to kill it right after it doesnt die" |
| 19:18.38 | uBdead | nicoli_s: thats not really _scratch_ imo, they duplicate units |
| 19:18.51 | Zachet | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.51 | Arthas-stuffs | nicoli_s is anyone working on MWE? =O |
| 19:18.51 | nicoli_s | ahh havent actually read it |
| 19:18.52 | TriGuN | telll them to make 2 kill triggers per unit(s) |
| 19:18.56 | HyBReD | hm |
| 19:18.59 | nicoli_s | Arthas-stuffs: yeah |
| 19:19.02 | TriGuN | ok? |
| 19:19.06 | nicoli_s | i wont be able to for a bit, but we def are |
| 19:19.06 | Arthas-stuffs | nice |
| 19:19.08 | Xan | Arthas-stuffs |
| 19:19.10 | Xan | 2v2? |
| 19:19.10 | Xan | :P |
| 19:19.14 | Arthas-stuffs | sure |
| 19:19.19 | nicoli_s | zoxc has done some really cool stuff to it and as far as i know sholdak is still working on it |
| 19:19.26 | HyBReD | wheres the "Unit maniuplates Item" Event..? |
| 19:19.46 | Arthas-stuffs | ah well, gaming! |
| 19:19.50 | Xan | Arthas-stuffs: jusdt playing one game, then gogogo :P |
| 19:20.11 | Zachet | :( Where's zip when you need him |
| 19:21.26 | griffith` | man it seems almost like a waste to use galaxyedit to make a buidlers adn fighters map |
| 19:21.26 | griffith` | rofl |
| 19:21.30 | rebb | uBdead: do they only get protected if you plan to sell the map ? or can you get a map protected and still have it be free ? |
| 19:21.42 | `228zip | Anyone knows a way to get the host in a game ? |
| 19:21.45 | uBdead | i guess so, dont know really |
| 19:21.48 | Zachet | Oh snap it is zip! |
| 19:21.56 | Zachet | Speak of the devil |
| 19:21.56 | `228zip | What what what ? |
| 19:22.02 | `228zip | I hear you need me |
| 19:22.10 | `228zip | at least that's what Romm told me |
| 19:22.16 | Zachet | I need you to be my information bitch ;) |
| 19:22.17 | Romm_ | IT'S NOT ME |
| 19:22.18 | Romm_ | What ? |
| 19:22.20 | Romm_ | DONT BELIEVE HIM |
| 19:22.26 | `228zip | Haha |
| 19:22.28 | Romm_ | ^^ |
| 19:22.54 | `228zip | Actually |
| 19:22.58 | Zachet | I have a object in a variable, I want to compare it to unit/actors to see what type of unit it is... I can't find a way to do this |
| 19:23.05 | Zachet | There's actor type but that's not the same thing right |
| 19:23.34 | `228zip | you want the type of the unit, like if it's a marauder or a zergling right ? |
| 19:23.39 | Zachet | yeah |
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| 19:24.45 | Dremora_ | are there any behaviors that disable unit collision? |
| 19:24.55 | `228zip | native string UnitGetType (unit inUnit); sounds cool |
| 19:25.01 | kakefisk | so |
| 19:25.02 | `228zip | but using a string ? what the hell ? |
| 19:25.07 | Zachet | Hmm |
| 19:25.14 | kakefisk | any good maps yet :) for testing that is |
| 19:25.51 | BossMonkey | I'm making a good ol' evolves map |
| 19:26.03 | BossMonkey | Though I'm having issues getting a Mass Attack feature to work. |
| 19:26.16 | `228zip | so, zachet, what does the function returns ? |
| 19:26.20 | `228zip | the name of the unit ? |
| 19:26.24 | `228zip | or something else ? |
| 19:26.35 | HyBReD | So uh, how do you detect when an item is picked up/used? |
| 19:26.48 | `228zip | UnitCreate also uses a string to determine the unit's type |
| 19:27.04 | Habladabla | Is a condition : (Owner of (Triggering Unit)) == 4(user player number) good enough to make sure that only user controlled unit(s) trigger events? |
| 19:28.07 | `228zip | HyBReD : isn't native void TriggerAddEventPurchaseMade (trigger t, int player, int inPurchaseItemId); enough ? |
| 19:28.22 | HyBReD | uhm |
| 19:28.27 | HyBReD | yes, if i was buying from a shop |
| 19:28.31 | HyBReD | but im picking it up off the ground |
| 19:29.42 | Zachet | Sorry zip, at work, one second |
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| 19:30.15 | HyBReD | yeah `228zip, some of the most basic stuff has been turned into a 12 step nightmare |
| 19:30.47 | griffith` | man the SC` map editor is like 10x more complicated than wc3s? |
| 19:30.54 | rebb | hadlablablabla : you can also check if "Controller of Player( Owner of Triggering Unit )" is "User" maybe |
| 19:32.30 | `228zip | HyBReD: Units are items right ? |
| 19:32.35 | `228zip | I mean |
| 19:32.39 | `228zip | Items are units right ? |
| 19:32.40 | `228zip | native void TriggerAddEventUnitRemoved (trigger t, unitref u); |
| 19:32.51 | Zachet | You're the man `228zip, you solve all my probelms instantly every time, afk a moment |
| 19:33.09 | HyBReD | yes they rae |
| 19:33.15 | HyBReD | are |
| 19:33.15 | kakefisk | where do i put the maps anyway |
| 19:33.17 | HyBReD | hm |
| 19:33.18 | HyBReD | maybe |
| 19:33.31 | `228zip | Need to test it I guess |
| 19:33.32 | kakefisk | maps directory appearently didnt work .) |
| 19:33.43 | `228zip | Doesn't solve my problem : How do I get the host the game ? |
| 19:34.34 | `228zip | native int PlayerType (int inPlayer); // Returns c_playerType<*> value |
| 19:34.39 | `228zip | anyone tried that ? |
| 19:35.39 | `228zip | There is no c_playerType values.. |
| 19:35.49 | `228zip | Experimentation is required! |
| 19:37.17 | HyBReD | nope |
| 19:37.19 | HyBReD | hm so |
| 19:37.22 | griffith` | Is it possible to change the map layout (ie. size, tilset, etc) without removing the data |
| 19:37.37 | HyBReD | `228zip, what do you think for the condition? I would think Unit Type is Item = True |
| 19:37.44 | HyBReD | but i cant seem to get there |
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| 19:37.54 | `228zip | can't you just check it's type ? |
| 19:38.05 | `228zip | You need every item picked up ? =X |
| 19:38.11 | davidcramer | FYI guys, new starcrack launcher is out |
| 19:38.17 | davidcramer | i THINK it supports loading of sc2map's |
| 19:38.19 | Zachet | What does color imply on a model? A specific model value of color if supplied to be altered or tint or nothing? |
| 19:38.24 | davidcramer | havent tested it myself yet |
| 19:38.27 | HyBReD | it should work for any item |
| 19:39.26 | Shadowclaimer | bleh hate this, my caffeine is hititng an empty stomach so now I feel like shit which means no mapping |
| 19:39.28 | Shadowclaimer | rawr |
| 19:39.40 | Shadowclaimer | I can't code in a state like this, I need to go rob a burgerk ing or something |
| 19:39.43 | `228zip | hybred have you tried if the event triggers at least ? |
| 19:40.08 | `228zip | Shadowclaimer: Wow |
| 19:40.20 | Shadowclaimer | What! Its just a Burger King |
| 19:40.21 | BossMonkey | Shadowclaimer: be a MAN. |
| 19:40.34 | Shadowclaimer | *Cries at BossMonkey's abuse* |
| 19:40.36 | Shadowclaimer | Its not my fault |
| 19:40.42 | HyBReD | heh |
| 19:40.46 | HyBReD | remove doesnt work |
| 19:40.47 | HyBReD | anyway |
| 19:40.49 | Shadowclaimer | 3 20 oz mountain dews on an empty stomach only work so well |
| 19:40.49 | HyBReD | look at that |
| 19:40.51 | BossMonkey | Shadowclaimer: i wrote a 2300 line project in one of my classes in a lab with nothing mroe htan 7 mountain dews |
| 19:41.00 | HyBReD | itw as the only thing that made sense in the Events panel so i just assumed it had to work |
| 19:41.09 | Shadowclaimer | That's because you're almighty, I am but a wee beginner.. |
| 19:41.25 | BossMonkey | Shadowclaimer: i suppose. not everyone can be hardcore leet programmer. |
| 19:41.32 | davidcramer | nvm it doesnt, damn |
| 19:41.43 | BossMonkey | Shadowclaimer: also if you go to BK bring me something. |
| 19:41.50 | HyBReD | `228zip, so dumb. why would they remove item manipulation |
| 19:41.50 | Shadowclaimer | I would if I had money lol |
| 19:42.05 | uBdead | whats a mountain dew like? |
| 19:42.20 | BossMonkey | uBdead: like a mountain |
| 19:42.22 | uBdead | sounds sexual to me tbh |
| 19:42.24 | Shadowclaimer | its like orgasm in a bottle |
| 19:42.31 | uBdead | i knew it lol |
| 19:42.54 | davidcramer | Well new StarCrack launcher at least lets you load up patch 8 and play against AI :D |
| 19:43.05 | Skizot | i know i'm forgetting something simple... |
| 19:43.12 | Skizot | but what's needed for a leaderboard? |
| 19:43.20 | `228zip | so |
| 19:43.24 | `228zip | gotta see what |
| 19:43.24 | `228zip | native int PlayerType (int inPlayer); // Returns c_playerType<*> value |
| 19:43.26 | `228zip | brings |
| 19:43.56 | DeadPixel | I am working on making an upgrade that has unlimited uses and increases in price and time each time. 2 issues. 1- They price and time increments only stack once. 2-I can't seem to change the requirements so that the upgrade is greyed out while it is queued. |
| 19:44.01 | DeadPixel | anyone have any thougts? |
| 19:45.08 | HyBReD | `228zip, looks like the only way to do it is to peridoicly check to see where the item is |
| 19:45.21 | `228zip | That's totally overkill |
| 19:45.25 | HyBReD | yea well |
| 19:45.34 | HyBReD | i looked through all the events twice |
| 19:45.34 | Shadowclaimer | So who wants to help me hold the Blizzard devs at gunpoint so they'll code adequate mouse events? |
| 19:45.35 | `228zip | So, the event doesn't work ? |
| 19:45.37 | HyBReD | no it doesnt |
| 19:45.58 | `228zip | Shadowclaimer What's the problem with the mouse events ? |
| 19:46.04 | `228zip | the problem isn't with the events |
| 19:46.08 | Shadowclaimer | there's no "if mouse moves" event |
| 19:46.10 | griffith` | anyone figured out how adding water works |
| 19:46.12 | Shadowclaimer | just if mose clicked |
| 19:46.15 | Shadowclaimer | mouse* |
| 19:46.34 | `228zip | it's the other way around, you should be able to get the position of the mouse in real time |
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| 19:46.50 | `228zip | and be able to set it to wherver you want too |
| 19:46.56 | `228zip | wherever* |
| 19:47.54 | uBdead | the mouse events are alot of traffic to send around |
| 19:48.06 | uBdead | i think that's why they are not implemented |
| 19:48.51 | Shadowclaimer | Yea I figured such |
| 19:48.57 | Shadowclaimer | I need to get to owrk on the firing code |
| 19:49.50 | HyBReD | yea `228zip, i can just check every second to see if a item is = to the position of the hero |
| 19:50.06 | HyBReD | the problem is that come time when multiplayer maps hit, its going to be a clusterfuck to detect item pickup |
| 19:50.08 | `228zip | The item still exists if it's in an inventory then ? |
| 19:50.16 | HyBReD | yea, apparently it does |
| 19:50.17 | `228zip | Indeed |
| 19:50.20 | HyBReD | i attached a TextTag to it |
| 19:50.26 | HyBReD | and it is attached the middle of my unit |
| 19:50.32 | HyBReD | after i pick it up |
| 19:50.34 | HyBReD | its pretty wierd |
| 19:51.07 | Skizot | HALPS |
| 19:51.14 | Skizot | stupid leaderboard. |
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| 19:51.28 | `228zip | 102430 |
| 19:51.30 | `228zip | Alright |
| 19:51.31 | Skizot | what is a common "oh fuck i forgot that" for leaderboards? |
| 19:51.37 | `228zip | Doesn't seem to make sense |
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| 19:51.51 | `228zip | 1;0;2;4;3;0 |
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| 19:52.47 | `228zip | Actually it could make sense |
| 19:52.51 | `228zip | Hi Toko! |
| 19:53.07 | Tokoji | Hi |
| 19:53.12 | `228zip | I suspect PlayerType functions this way |
| 19:53.31 | `228zip | returns 0 if there is no player (computer or whatever), including hostile* |
| 19:53.43 | `228zip | returns 1 if the player is a real player |
| 19:53.50 | Skizot | oh god |
| 19:53.58 | `228zip | returns 2 if the player is a computer |
| 19:54.14 | `228zip | actually not including hostile on 0 |
| 19:54.21 | Xapti | SCMapper hang around here? |
| 19:54.24 | `228zip | it returns 3 if it's hostile |
| 19:54.30 | Dustin | Almost got my map converted to MP! |
| 19:54.35 | Dustin | Anyone want to help me test soon? |
| 19:54.42 | Xapti | AWESOME |
| 19:54.43 | Xapti | yes |
| 19:54.49 | Xapti | is it PvP? |
| 19:54.56 | Dustin | PVE |
| 19:54.56 | `228zip | returns 4 if it's hostile and 3 if it's neutral |
| 19:54.59 | `228zip | Sounds good |
| 19:54.59 | Xapti | there should be a PvP one |
| 19:55.08 | Dustin | There will be |
| 19:55.18 | Dustin | When I actually start doing the mapo |
| 19:55.25 | `228zip | What are you two talking about ? |
| 19:55.28 | Cide | hey guys, has anyone managed to alter the sensor tower range? |
| 19:55.29 | Xapti | anyone know where i can find Wacky Races? |
| 19:55.29 | Dustin | this is a prototype so I can sorrt shit before I start coding in galaxy |
| 19:55.36 | Skizot | FUCK |
| 19:55.44 | nicoli_s | yes Skizot? |
| 19:55.47 | Skizot | you can't see a leaderboard if the ui is hidden :( |
| 19:56.06 | `228zip | Oh |
| 19:56.08 | `228zip | Interesting |
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| 19:56.52 | Skizot | ALL of this work trying to fix the damned leaderboard... |
| 19:56.59 | Skizot | AND IT WAS THERE THE WHOLE TIME. |
| 19:58.03 | `228zip | Skizot: It happens all the time |
| 19:58.14 | `228zip | The stupidest mistakes are the hardest to fix |
| 19:58.24 | Skystriker | Can someone fix ma stoopid mistake? |
| 19:58.29 | Skystriker | :3 |
| 19:58.44 | uBdead | i love setting the scale for probes to 15 |
| 19:59.40 | Bemoliph- | <Cide> hey guys, has anyone managed to alter the sensor tower range? |
| 19:59.50 | Cide | yeah... seems like I can only edit the visual circle's radius, not the actual detection |
| 20:00.01 | Bemoliph- | Edit "Modification +" on the behavior "Sensor Tower - Radar" |
| 20:00.17 | Bemoliph- | It's the one right above that, I believe |
| 20:00.21 | Bemoliph- | Just called "Radar" and then a number |
| 20:01.09 | Cide | oh, I'm retarded |
| 20:01.18 | Cide | I looked there but didn't see it scrolled |
| 20:01.53 | Cide | thanks |
| 20:01.54 | Vailreth | Hot damn it came, my new Nvidia Galaxy Geforce 9500 is here |
| 20:01.59 | griffith` | lol the converting legacy map is epic fail |
| 20:02.02 | griffith` | so far at least |
| 20:02.49 | Vailreth | i will return in a while time to install it |
| 20:03.21 | uBdead | good luck :D |
| 20:03.25 | uBdead | downlaod drivers first :) |
| 20:04.27 | Xapti | isn't that a cheap card |
| 20:04.34 | Xapti | should have got something better |
| 20:05.35 | Vailreth | thanks |
| 20:05.45 | Vailreth | thats all i could aford |
| 20:05.55 | Vailreth | and its better than what i have so eh |
| 20:05.59 | Zoxc | what's a Nvidia Galaxy Geforce 9500? |
| 20:06.15 | Vailreth | a graphics card for budget concious people |
| 20:06.35 | `228zip | Has someone experimented with "Game Variants" and "Game Attributes" ? |
| 20:06.38 | Zoxc | a graphics card for people without a budget :D |
| 20:06.48 | Vailreth | hah hah |
| 20:06.52 | Zoxc | where did the Galaxy part come from? |
| 20:07.02 | Vailreth | its a name * shrugs * |
| 20:07.05 | Vailreth | later all |
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| 20:09.36 | griffith` | is it possible to implement an upkeep trigger |
| 20:09.37 | griffith` | somehow |
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| 20:11.56 | `228zip | griffith: What do you mean ? |
| 20:12.10 | `228zip | The supply an unit takes cannot be changed |
| 20:13.19 | maphstra | anyone feel like trying a survival map? |
| 20:13.32 | Skizot | dammit |
| 20:13.34 | Skizot | :( |
| 20:13.40 | nicoli_s | skizot? |
| 20:14.14 | Cide | `228zip: statically, sure |
| 20:14.24 | griffith` | and everything seems so much more complicated than in wc3 |
| 20:14.24 | griffith` | lol |
| 20:14.24 | Skizot | i need to figure out a way to make a leaderboard that works while the ui is hidden. |
| 20:14.24 | maphstra | its here: http://rapidshare.com/files/380900735/Starcraft_Fortress.SC2Map.html |
| 20:14.25 | Cide | but not a particular unit, true |
| 20:14.32 | `228zip | skizot |
| 20:14.33 | Cide | you could spawn a bunch of hidden units that take supply |
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| 20:14.38 | HyBReD | skizot, why |
| 20:14.39 | `228zip | You can probably use Show UI Frame |
| 20:14.40 | maphstra | its got some interesting triggers |
| 20:14.41 | HyBReD | just use variables |
| 20:14.47 | `228zip | so that.. it's shown. |
| 20:14.58 | HyBReD | oh |
| 20:14.59 | HyBReD | i get it |
| 20:15.01 | Skizot | http://i40.tinypic.com/34nhamh.jpg |
| 20:15.20 | davidcramer | maphstra: is that map done? |
| 20:15.24 | nicoli_s | ahh nice, skizot |
| 20:15.26 | davidcramer | is it like a defense map? :D |
| 20:15.29 | nicoli_s | looks sweet |
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| 20:15.59 | Skizot | defense map? |
| 20:16.05 | Skizot | it's a side scroller |
| 20:16.10 | davidcramer | that was meant for maphstra |
| 20:16.11 | davidcramer | sorry :) |
| 20:16.15 | davidcramer | Skizot: that looks cool though ;D |
| 20:16.22 | `228zip | Skizot like Metal Slug ? |
| 20:16.29 | Skizot | yes |
| 20:16.35 | Skizot | well more like contra. |
| 20:16.37 | `228zip | has suddenly become very interested in Skizot's project. |
| 20:16.45 | Skizot | lol zip |
| 20:16.54 | Skizot | you might be the person i started this for.. |
| 20:16.55 | Cide | so is there a way to play maps in multiplayer with some hack_ |
| 20:16.56 | Cide | ? |
| 20:16.57 | Skizot | i forget |
| 20:16.59 | Cide | or only 1 person maps |
| 20:17.08 | davidcramer | Cide: yes but naming it to ane xisting blizzard map |
| 20:17.15 | maphstra | yes skizot |
| 20:17.18 | maphstra | no sry |
| 20:17.20 | Cide | works for custom maps as well as melee? |
| 20:17.24 | maphstra | yes david, defense map |
| 20:17.36 | maphstra | and its playable, not finished |
| 20:17.39 | davidcramer | ah cool |
| 20:17.47 | maphstra | its kinda tough though |
| 20:17.57 | davidcramer | maphstra: fyi you can post things like that to pastethat.com so people dont have to use rapidshare (if its just a temp link) |
| 20:18.00 | davidcramer | hates rapidshare ;P |
| 20:18.09 | maphstra | haha ok |
| 20:18.17 | davidcramer | wish i had time to try it now |
| 20:18.19 | davidcramer | I love defense maps :D |
| 20:18.48 | maphstra | hehe. i made it so that the waves come randomly, and units in them increase exponentially. |
| 20:18.49 | griffith` | Is it possible to copy over triggers from another map? |
| 20:19.08 | `228zip | griffith: Galaxy is your fried |
| 20:19.11 | `228zip | friend* |
| 20:19.19 | maphstra | so you'll allways loose in the end, don't know if i want to keep it that way.. would be cool to make it multiplayer |
| 20:19.33 | davidcramer | maphstra: ya I was trying to do stuff like that for my td |
| 20:19.44 | davidcramer | but I havent built enough of the logic so its just somewhat repetitive atm |
| 20:19.51 | davidcramer | right now they just get stronger, and the amounts increase (to a limit) |
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| 20:19.55 | molster | hello |
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| 20:20.15 | maphstra | nice |
| 20:20.17 | `228zip | How do you set the time before a unit's shield start to recharge ? |
| 20:20.46 | davidcramer | probably something like shield recharge delay |
| 20:20.55 | `228zip | yeah |
| 20:21.15 | `228zip | 100 takes too much space |
| 20:21.26 | griffith` | `228zip, if you import a map, do you now have access to all its triggers? |
| 20:21.28 | maphstra | i use math functions to create the waves , makes it much less work. but a bit hard to balance. you can send me your td if you want |
| 20:21.30 | `228zip | My guys will only have 99 life |
| 20:21.32 | griffith` | as well as the data? |
| 20:21.40 | `228zip | Import a map ? |
| 20:21.47 | maphstra | here http://www.pastethat.com/ScFortress |
| 20:22.04 | davidcramer | :) |
| 20:22.11 | `228zip | maphstra: What about using an array int with the number of enemies of each wave ? |
| 20:22.25 | davidcramer | im using random math also |
| 20:22.30 | davidcramer | i was going to use an array or table for randomizing what spawns |
| 20:22.31 | davidcramer | http://sc2.nibbits.com/maps/project/74616/ntd-beta |
| 20:22.41 | davidcramer | e.g. setting a scale factor to each units, so harder units if they spawn it spawns less of them |
| 20:22.49 | HyBReD | nobody wants to play endless tds |
| 20:22.51 | HyBReD | O.o |
| 20:22.52 | davidcramer | right now its very rough :) |
| 20:22.57 | maphstra | yeah i've thought about that, but i think i have it nicely done know |
| 20:23.00 | Xapti | starcraft fortress? waat? |
| 20:23.17 | davidcramer | HyBReD: well its not so much it has to be endless, but I want to be able to build the levels using logic, rather than coding 100 waves ;) |
| 20:23.18 | maphstra | @ david. that would be really cool |
| 20:23.34 | davidcramer | I'm not sure when I'm going to have time to work on mine again though, I'm moving this weekend so trying to finish up things here |
| 20:23.49 | HyBReD | davidcramer, if you want your TD to be fun and interesting, math isnt the way to go. predictablity is what kills most tds |
| 20:24.02 | HyBReD | that and just flat out boringness |
| 20:24.03 | maphstra | @ the way i have it now it just spawns 3 classes of units, tier 1, tier 1.5 and tier 2.3 |
| 20:24.05 | maphstra | 2-3 |
| 20:24.09 | davidcramer | HyBReD: this would make it unpredictable, by having random spawns |
| 20:24.20 | davidcramer | im just using math to strengthen mobs as the game progresses, and increase the # of spawns |
| 20:24.30 | griffith` | will we be able to import wc3 models into SC2? |
| 20:24.37 | HyBReD | .shrug, maybe itll have a niche audience |
| 20:24.45 | davidcramer | but i would create a data table where it specifies unit, spawn points, and some modifiers, and then it could do the rest from there |
| 20:24.53 | Cide | math is how you figure out game balance |
| 20:24.54 | davidcramer | and then each wave can randomly spawn then |
| 20:24.57 | JamesObscura_ | davidcramer, any luck on the morphing buildings? |
| 20:25.00 | Cide | you can create variation even with math |
| 20:25.03 | davidcramer | Cide: Now I remember where I recognize your name :) |
| 20:25.04 | theDude | i will never play a map involving wc 3 mechanics or looks |
| 20:25.12 | davidcramer | JamesObscura_: didnt have a chance to play with it :( |
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| 20:25.22 | Tigers | HybreD you could blend wonderful aesthetics with excellent math to get an unique game |
| 20:25.26 | davidcramer | Cide: CT ya? |
| 20:25.28 | Cide | here, there, everywhere |
| 20:25.30 | Cide | yep |
| 20:25.37 | JamesObscura_ | I think I'm just missing one small step... but idk what that step is. |
| 20:25.40 | davidcramer | <-- zeeg |
| 20:25.44 | davidcramer | zeeg/zinor, whichever you may remember |
| 20:25.44 | Cide | I'm aware :) |
| 20:25.47 | davidcramer | haha |
| 20:25.50 | Cide | zeeg, but yeah |
| 20:25.59 | davidcramer | cool to see familiar faces in the sc2 scene ;) |
| 20:26.09 | Cide | I mostly remember you as david cramer from django's discussion list |
| 20:26.13 | davidcramer | ahh |
| 20:26.15 | Cide | or the select related ticket |
| 20:26.24 | theDude | who do you remember |
| 20:26.25 | davidcramer | That rings a bell now :) |
| 20:26.31 | Cide | he remembers me |
| 20:26.32 | davidcramer | (you being active in there) |
| 20:26.33 | Cide | because I'm awesome |
| 20:26.37 | davidcramer | haha |
| 20:26.43 | HyBReD | Tigers, unique is fine. like i said, niche audience |
| 20:26.45 | theDude | go figure |
| 20:26.47 | theDude | cuzz im uncool |
| 20:26.54 | davidcramer | Cide: what you doing nowadays? |
| 20:27.08 | Cide | working, studying, coding |
| 20:27.17 | Cide | so little time |
| 20:27.32 | davidcramer | ah |
| 20:28.06 | `228zip | wasn't there a texttag tutorial ? |
| 20:28.17 | Skizot | seriously? |
| 20:28.19 | Skizot | lol |
| 20:28.34 | Cide | what're you doing? |
| 20:28.43 | Skizot | it's 2 actions. |
| 20:28.47 | Skizot | create tag |
| 20:28.51 | Skizot | attach tag to unit |
| 20:28.58 | davidcramer | is that for the unit labels? |
| 20:29.02 | Skizot | yes |
| 20:29.08 | davidcramer | ah cool |
| 20:29.20 | `228zip | Well, I figured out dialogs on my own yesterday |
| 20:29.33 | Skizot | what can you do with em? |
| 20:29.33 | `228zip | Was afraid to do the same with text tags |
| 20:29.41 | `228zip | But yes, sounds simple enough |
| 20:29.47 | `228zip | Dialogs are like custom UI |
| 20:30.00 | AgentPaper | how do you change what model an actor uses? |
| 20:30.10 | `228zip | Model |
| 20:30.15 | `228zip | that's the field |
| 20:30.31 | AgentPaper | it doesn't seem to exist |
| 20:30.46 | AgentPaper | oops, nm |
| 20:30.50 | AgentPaper | I was lookin in the unit |
| 20:30.52 | AgentPaper | somehow |
| 20:30.54 | AgentPaper | =P |
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| 20:31.01 | griffith` | it kinda sucks sc2 doesn't have nearly as many models as wc3 |
| 20:31.17 | DeadPixel | yet |
| 20:31.22 | Skizot | it's still beta |
| 20:31.23 | maphstra | @ davidcramer, thats a really nice way to make harder mobs for a td. ^^ saves tons of work |
| 20:31.30 | `228zip | DeadPixel, Skizot: Dream on |
| 20:31.35 | davidcramer | maphstra: ya, its just all hardcoded atm |
| 20:31.46 | maphstra | will get a bit repetitve though, but still |
| 20:31.50 | davidcramer | so put that into a data table with a few values (unit type, hp modifier, spawn zone, etc) |
| 20:31.56 | davidcramer | ya you just need a bunch more units and things |
| 20:32.02 | davidcramer | but at least this way its less work building them :) |
| 20:32.09 | davidcramer | you could even just make base units |
| 20:32.11 | `228zip | No new units before release IMO, and after that we'll only get them for expansions |
| 20:32.18 | davidcramer | (basically just a unit with low hp/etc) |
| 20:32.20 | Tigers | Campaign will have new units |
| 20:32.21 | davidcramer | and then randomize models more or less :P |
| 20:32.23 | `228zip | obiously these will be campaign units |
| 20:32.25 | theDude | ya the model list shouyld increase alot when ever single player install ments happen |
| 20:32.25 | Tigers | Not alot, but some |
| 20:32.27 | maphstra | haha yeah |
| 20:32.40 | Tigers | As in return of the firebat, medic etc |
| 20:32.49 | theDude | well classic units\ |
| 20:32.57 | DeadPixel | and hero units |
| 20:32.58 | theDude | and all hero units of campaign |
| 20:33.07 | maphstra | could be fun, with lots of randomizing it could be the least repetive TD ever:P random looks and attributes for each wave every time |
| 20:33.15 | theDude | and you never know if sc got createive |
| 20:33.20 | theDude | and made new units\ |
| 20:33.24 | theDude | only for single lplayer |
| 20:33.27 | DeadPixel | Right now they just have what they need for the beta. Most likely trying to keep the size down as much as possible |
| 20:33.31 | `228zip | maphstra: Go with random tower loots! |
| 20:33.36 | AgentPaper | can you even make heroes yet? |
| 20:33.42 | theDude | ya |
| 20:33.45 | `228zip | maphstra: make it a mix between Diablo and a TD. |
| 20:33.56 | nicoli_s | AgentPaper: yeah but its a pain in the ass |
| 20:33.57 | Tigers | And possibly other kind of units, as in the xel'naga |
| 20:33.59 | theDude | they needa scrap diablo 3 and make it mmo diablo |
| 20:34.04 | AgentPaper | ah |
| 20:34.08 | `228zip | The only way it could be more addictive would be by making it a MMO |
| 20:34.15 | Tigers | theDude, why scrap when you could have both? :) |
| 20:34.16 | AgentPaper | mmo diablo? |
| 20:34.21 | AgentPaper | ew |
| 20:34.24 | theDude | world of diablo |
| 20:34.26 | theDude | omfg |
| 20:34.28 | maphstra | haha yes, tell david |
| 20:34.34 | theDude | the world would bow to blizzard |
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| 20:34.45 | Tigers | With hardcore servers |
| 20:34.46 | AgentPaper | it would be suck |
| 20:34.52 | AgentPaper | it'd be exactly the same as it is |
| 20:34.53 | Tigers | If you die, you die. |
| 20:34.59 | `228zip | Runic Games is doing a MMO Diablo |
| 20:34.59 | DeadPixel | Anyone know how to set a restriction for an upgrade to be greyed out while it is queued? |
| 20:35.00 | AgentPaper | except with more people around |
| 20:35.08 | davidcramer | wait what |
| 20:35.09 | AgentPaper | killing your crap |
| 20:35.15 | griffith` | i just wish we could import wc3 models directly |
| 20:35.23 | davidcramer | what do you want to know :p |
| 20:35.23 | griffith` | it had soooo many cool models |
| 20:35.26 | theDude | lol, i go eww to the people who want a sc2 mmo |
| 20:35.27 | davidcramer | oh |
| 20:35.36 | `228zip | davidcramer: I was saying that mixing TDs and Diablo would make the best map EVAR |
| 20:35.54 | davidcramer | oh |
| 20:35.58 | davidcramer | wouldnt that be like a survival |
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| 20:36.15 | Jimmer | How is Adrenal Glands implemented in GE? |
| 20:36.15 | `228zip | just go with random drops and random level generation |
| 20:36.23 | `228zip | there you go |
| 20:36.28 | `228zip | best map |
| 20:36.43 | `228zip | That's the plan at least. |
| 20:36.56 | davidcramer | maphstra: tbh i was making this td to learn more about the data so I could work on my survival map |
| 20:37.09 | davidcramer | I think I'd be better off just helping someone else with my crazy ideas though, since I dont have time :P |
| 20:37.22 | Jimmer | anyone? |
| 20:37.38 | theDude | isnt it an effect |
| 20:37.38 | maphstra | hehe, not sure if im gonna finish mine either, but as long as i think its fun.. |
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| 20:37.53 | Jimmer | not an effect |
| 20:37.57 | heysparky | shadowclaimer: forgot this - the jumping is a little... exaggerated. :) |
| 20:37.59 | theDude | ability then |
| 20:38.00 | theDude | maybe |
| 20:38.08 | Jimmer | nope |
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| 20:38.39 | theDude | upgrades then |
| 20:38.49 | Denis_ | hey guys, did anyone already succeed in displaying an effect between two points (such as a laser ray between two characters?) |
| 20:39.02 | Jimmer | we have a winner |
| 20:39.03 | Jimmer | thanks |
| 20:39.18 | theDude | :P |
| 20:39.22 | theDude | im making zergling blood |
| 20:39.34 | theDude | just so happen lings were on my data sheet |
| 20:39.35 | Jimmer | I'm trying to remake SC1 |
| 20:39.38 | `228zip | davidcramer: Well, if you know anything about 3D modeling, I could use your help =p |
| 20:39.45 | davidcramer | I dont >< |
| 20:40.08 | `228zip | sadface |
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| 20:41.33 | Denis_ | hmm, does anyone knows an ingame effect that shows a laser ray? archon beam doesn't appear in effects- im trying to replace the infestor's neural parasite graphics |
| 20:41.48 | BossMonkey | Denis_: voidray maybe? |
| 20:42.16 | Genopath | whats the diffrence between Combat - Weapons - Turret |
| 20:42.20 | Genopath | and Combat- Weapons - Weapon |
| 20:42.25 | Genopath | some units seem to have it |
| 20:42.27 | Genopath | some don't |
| 20:42.55 | Denis_ | what was the protoss tripod's name again? |
| 20:42.58 | Skizot | turreit units only have PART of the model turn to attack |
| 20:43.07 | Skizot | where the weapons turn the whole unit |
| 20:43.17 | Tigers | Denis_, The Colossus |
| 20:43.22 | Denis_ | ah yeah |
| 20:43.22 | Skizot | colussus is a turret |
| 20:43.24 | Denis_ | thx |
| 20:43.26 | Skizot | zealot is not |
| 20:43.26 | `228zip | The colossus is a quadripod |
| 20:43.32 | `228zip | ! |
| 20:43.34 | Tigers | ! |
| 20:43.46 | `228zip | or is it tetrapod ? |
| 20:43.55 | Tigers | Someone should make a cool War of the Worlds mod |
| 20:43.57 | `228zip | at least I'm sure it's not a tripod |
| 20:44.03 | Genopath | thanks skizot |
| 20:44.06 | Genopath | like the siege tank? |
| 20:44.11 | Skizot | yup |
| 20:44.15 | `228zip | yes Genopath |
| 20:44.24 | `228zip | Is there a way to control the turret in the triggers ? |
| 20:44.30 | `228zip | separately from the unit ? |
| 20:44.42 | `228zip | didn't find anything in the natives |
| 20:44.49 | Skizot | aim the bone? |
| 20:44.52 | Dustin | Anyone know what an ArrindexUnderflow is? |
| 20:44.54 | Dustin | Error msg |
| 20:44.56 | Skizot | bone_turret |
| 20:45.24 | Bifuu | gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Why come all my map ideas require units Blizz hasnt given us yet QQ |
| 20:45.34 | Skizot | huh? |
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| 20:45.54 | Zoxc | SC2 really lacks units |
| 20:46.01 | Zoxc | WC3 had a million |
| 20:46.02 | `228zip | Dustin: Used a negative index recently ? |
| 20:46.22 | Dustin | Dont think so... |
| 20:46.24 | `228zip | how do you "aim the bone" ? |
| 20:46.25 | Bifuu | i assume theya rnt in because of the cmapaign spoilers |
| 20:46.32 | `228zip | better check Dustin |
| 20:46.41 | `228zip | I don't see what an "Underflow" is.. |
| 20:46.52 | Dustin | I think that's right |
| 20:47.00 | Dustin | I just need to find where it's puting a negative number |
| 20:47.14 | `228zip | UIDisplayMessage is your best friend =p |
| 20:47.30 | Dustin | Oh I see |
| 20:48.02 | Zoxc | the TriggerDebug thing is more handy |
| 20:48.11 | Cr0n0s | Is there a tigger or something that detects if someone blocks the path in a tower def? so ppl cant cheat .. like if blocked create thors to kill towers |
| 20:48.33 | Zoxc | send a unit with a huge attack =P |
| 20:48.43 | AgentPaper | if the towers aren't invincible, and the runners have attacks, they should kill towers that block |
| 20:48.43 | `228zip | Zoxc: Does it display an in-game message too ? |
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| 20:48.49 | Zoxc | it can |
| 20:49.06 | Zoxc | but turn on the trigger debugger =P |
| 20:49.10 | Valaraukador | What are the units on movement speed? Tiles/second? |
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| 20:49.11 | `228zip | my trigger debugging frame is flooded with triggers on 0.03 periodic timers |
| 20:49.23 | TriGuN | zoxc |
| 20:49.25 | Insaneelite | Anyone else have that custom map patcher crash the game while it's loading? |
| 20:49.28 | `228zip | can't see much in there zoxc |
| 20:49.43 | `228zip | Skizot, can you give an exemple of what a leaderboard looks like ? |
| 20:50.14 | TriGuN | zoxc sc2 will have more units added when the game comes out ( they will update the editor) and with every sc2 game the comes out more units will be added |
| 20:50.31 | Zoxc | but non-terran, protos and zerg units? |
| 20:50.35 | Cr0n0s | humm I could send a DT or something with my wave .. I made customs units for the waves and didnt add any attack to them |
| 20:51.45 | `228zip | TriGuN: It still won't be enough. |
| 20:52.03 | `228zip | TriGuN: It will only be enough when Blizzard provides real support |
| 20:52.07 | Grum | <Cr0n0s> Is there a tigger or something that detects if someone blocks the path in a tower def? so ppl cant cheat .. like if blocked create thors to kill towers <-- just draw a 'no buildings' area in the pathing info |
| 20:52.26 | `228zip | more than "Hey here's the tool we created the campaign with, have fun with it!" |
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| 20:52.36 | `228zip | and then nothing |
| 20:52.41 | TriGuN | `228zip lol they wont support it |
| 20:52.44 | TriGuN | fully |
| 20:52.49 | TriGuN | ever |
| 20:52.56 | AgentPaper | grum |
| 20:52.56 | Cr0n0s | Grum i did that for the start and end areas .. I want to give more freedom to the middle |
| 20:52.58 | AgentPaper | mazing TD |
| 20:52.59 | TriGuN | the use the community to make money hence them selling our maps |
| 20:53.16 | HyBReD | hey question, is it possible to make a unit face up. like, basically laying down? |
| 20:53.28 | theDude | you know i wonder |
| 20:53.30 | Grum | humz there must be a state when units cannot reach their target |
| 20:53.31 | AgentPaper | probably |
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| 20:53.34 | theDude | if there are alot of tuts |
| 20:53.38 | theDude | on making maps |
| 20:53.39 | Grum | regular units run as clonse as possible and then they stop |
| 20:53.43 | Hati|NotHere | HyBReD: some have a silentkill animation simply lying down |
| 20:53.43 | theDude | how will some one sell one |
| 20:53.46 | Grum | *close even :D |
| 20:53.49 | theDude | if some 1 will remake it |
| 20:53.50 | theDude | for free |
| 20:53.51 | zlefin_ | huh, for some reason my normal irc cilent isn't connecting |
| 20:53.53 | theDude | :P |
| 20:54.22 | `228zip | theDude: Map protection is supposed to make sure that doesn't happen |
| 20:54.25 | Denis_ | I can't find a trigger to make an infestor use neural parasite on another.. anyone got a tip? |
| 20:54.32 | `228zip | It will be cracked of course |
| 20:54.44 | Denis_ | Issue Order doesn't include Neural Parasite |
| 20:54.49 | Denis_ | only canceling it. |
| 20:55.14 | BossMonkey | Denis_: click the first (, it will change it so you can select what type of order |
| 20:55.24 | BossMonkey | Denis_: by default it only lets you issue orders with no target |
| 20:55.27 | Denis_ | ahhh |
| 20:55.29 | Denis_ | that was it |
| 20:55.38 | Denis_ | thats defenitely WELL hidden |
| 20:55.40 | Denis_ | xD |
| 20:55.44 | BossMonkey | Denis_: i know! |
| 20:55.57 | Akkernight | where do I find a reference for stuff like the function to create a unit? |
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| 20:56.54 | BossMonkey | i love that you can make bunkers really big... |
| 20:57.24 | TriGuN | lol |
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| 20:57.36 | TriGuN | sixen: i have play tested a working bound |
| 20:57.39 | TriGuN | for sc2 |
| 20:58.37 | Zachet | Is there a way to adjust a units ' chase target' range? |
| 20:59.32 | Zachet | For example, if I order a unit to attack to point X, how close an enemy has to be for it to initiate chase. |
| 20:59.43 | HyBReD | Hati Silent kill animation? |
| 20:59.44 | DeadPixel | damn this editor crashes too much |
| 21:00.04 | HyBReD | its never crashed on me |
| 21:00.04 | Zachet | Yeah, I suggest save often and if it starts acting funny reload it |
| 21:00.22 | DeadPixel | I have the auto save feature on thank god. As well as backups |
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| 21:00.41 | Zachet | I'm too proud to use auto-save |
| 21:00.55 | HyBReD | then be proud of wasting your time when your game crashes |
| 21:01.00 | BossMonkey | lol |
| 21:01.00 | HyBReD | =) |
| 21:01.15 | BossMonkey | my editor has never crashed, but careless programming has lead to infinite loops that cause SC to crash |
| 21:01.16 | BossMonkey | lol |
| 21:01.27 | Zachet | I have had both BossMonkey |
| 21:01.35 | Zachet | Sucks :P |
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| 21:01.43 | Hati|NotHere | HyBReD: yea MarineDeath model ie has a silentkill animation where he is lying down |
| 21:01.45 | BossMonkey | Zachet: thats why ctrl s is your friend |
| 21:01.51 | Zachet | Yeah |
| 21:01.58 | HyBReD | i see |
| 21:01.58 | TriGuN|sc2_bound | aww |
| 21:02.02 | Zachet | I'm used to making backups in my mind |
| 21:02.04 | Magnevv | I'm trying to create a behaviour that increases damage dealt by 20%, does anybody know which field I should look for? |
| 21:02.08 | Zachet | I lost too much data |
| 21:02.17 | Hati | zachel |
| 21:02.21 | Hati | enable auto-save |
| 21:02.22 | heysparky | a word to the wise: don't try to open your Program Files folder when opening maps... CRASH |
| 21:02.24 | Zachet | Never! |
| 21:02.25 | Hati | or auto-backup |
| 21:02.26 | Statcomm | Zachet, on your preferences window in the File section, there is auto-save |
| 21:02.28 | HyBReD | are there terrain deformation triggers? |
| 21:02.35 | BossMonkey | wait, the editor has an auto save feature? |
| 21:02.40 | Hati | yea |
| 21:02.42 | Statcomm | BossMonkey yes |
| 21:02.43 | BossMonkey | hmmm |
| 21:02.45 | BossMonkey | hells yea |
| 21:02.49 | Zachet | Is there a way to adjust a units ' chase target' range? |
| 21:02.51 | Hati | and auto backup |
| 21:02.52 | DeadPixel | Warcraft's had it too |
| 21:02.52 | Zachet | For example, if I order a unit to attack to point X, how close an enemy has to be for it to initiate chase. |
| 21:02.57 | Hati | HyBReD: there should be some |
| 21:03.03 | Hati | might not be in atm |
| 21:03.03 | BossMonkey | though i'm already hitting ctrl s every 5 minutes anyway, always did when coding |
| 21:03.13 | Hati | but uberlisk vid had them |
| 21:03.36 | warturtle | Zachet change the weapon scan range |
| 21:03.49 | Zachet | Yes! |
| 21:03.56 | Zachet | Thank you pokmon |
| 21:04.04 | TriGuN | hati did you bound? |
| 21:04.05 | Zachet | I love you and your shades. |
| 21:04.10 | Akkernight | CreateUnitsAtPoint2(count, SpawnUnit, 0, 15, SpawnDest); <- is this correct? I got it from the Trigger Editor and Show Libraries |
| 21:04.29 | heysparky | Statcomm (or other): where do you set the autosave? |
| 21:04.29 | Hati | ? |
| 21:04.38 | HyBReD | I hope so Hati, the new ability im making is gunna look much better with it |
| 21:04.40 | TriGuN | sc ums gametype bounding? |
| 21:04.42 | Zachet | Holy shit the editor crashed when I hit save |
| 21:04.59 | theDude | suxs to be oyu\ |
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| 21:05.03 | Skizot_ | `228zip what all can you do with dialogs? |
| 21:05.12 | Zachet | it still saved though |
| 21:05.13 | Zachet | :D |
| 21:05.19 | Statcomm | Heysparky, you need to go to your file section in your map. |
| 21:05.21 | Skizot_ | i need a custom box for lives and score. |
| 21:05.23 | `228zip | Skizot_: What ? |
| 21:05.29 | Statcomm | Heysparky, then go to preferences. |
| 21:05.30 | `228zip | You can do basically everything with dialogs |
| 21:05.33 | `228zip | Your boss bars |
| 21:05.37 | `228zip | they're dialogs |
| 21:05.40 | `228zip | your portraits |
| 21:05.42 | Skizot_ | well i know that |
| 21:05.44 | `228zip | they're dialogs |
| 21:05.45 | Statcomm | Heysparky, after that go to Documents |
| 21:05.50 | `228zip | you can put button |
| 21:05.52 | `228zip | icons |
| 21:05.53 | `228zip | text |
| 21:05.56 | Skizot_ | i mean a custom dialog window. |
| 21:06.01 | `228zip | Custom UI I tell you =O |
| 21:06.04 | Statcomm | heysparky, did you find it? |
| 21:06.20 | `228zip | DialogCreate is good, what's the problem ? |
| 21:06.22 | Skizot_ | can you make me one real quick? |
| 21:06.57 | Skizot_ | a small icon a text tag and another text tag. |
| 21:07.03 | Skizot_ | two rows just like that. |
| 21:07.09 | Skizot_ | in a black box. |
| 21:07.52 | `228zip | I don't know about the black box part; i saw something like DialogSetBackgroundImage but I don't know what pilepath i need to put |
| 21:08.05 | `228zip | I'll upload my custom UI to megauplaod and give it to you |
| 21:08.20 | Skizot_ | just use any... |
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| 21:08.24 | Skizot_ | i'll find one i like ;) |
| 21:08.47 | nicoli_s | Skizot_: you can put custom ui stuff in the map without editing the core game files right? |
| 21:08.58 | Skizot_ | yes |
| 21:09.04 | Skizot_ | you can do EVERYTHING in the map. |
| 21:09.09 | Skizot_ | to give you an idea... |
| 21:09.22 | nicoli_s | nice, i had heard that you had to edit the game files for ui stuff |
| 21:09.24 | Skizot_ | we could do ALL of "that one mod" in a single map. |
| 21:09.32 | heysparky | statcomm: excellent, thanks! |
| 21:09.43 | Statcomm | heysparky, you're most welcome. |
| 21:09.47 | jack__ | I can't seem to color my leaderboard texts.... halp plox |
| 21:10.40 | jack__ | this is the call i used. does anything look wrong here? Leaderboard - Set (Last created leaderboard) item text color at column 1 and row (Picked player) to (0%, 100%, 0%) |
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| 21:10.54 | Valaraukador | If a unit's max speed is 2.6, does that mean that it's max speed is 2.6 gametiles/second? |
| 21:11.10 | Dustin | Anyone know if you can give FLYing to a unit via Triggers |
| 21:11.32 | Skizot_ | yes... sort of. |
| 21:11.38 | Skizot_ | if you set the unit's height.. |
| 21:11.44 | Skizot_ | it becomes a flyer |
| 21:11.51 | Dustin | oh ya? nice |
| 21:11.55 | Skizot_ | yeah |
| 21:12.01 | BossMonkey | Wow I'm dumb. |
| 21:12.06 | Skizot_ | i can glitch around my map doing that. |
| 21:12.30 | Arthas- | wheres alevice :< |
| 21:12.34 | Arthas- | ~seen Alevice |
| 21:12.38 | purl | alevice <~alevice@189.190.220.190> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 7h 9m 30s ago, saying: 'waaay to many people bitching'. |
| 21:12.43 | Arthas- | ~seen Alevice_work2 |
| 21:12.44 | purl | alevice_work2 <~alevice@201.155.119.183> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 4h 38m 41s ago, saying: 'oh man'. |
| 21:12.47 | Arthas- | ~seen Alevice_work3 |
| 21:12.48 | purl | alevice_work3 <~alevice@201.155.119.183> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 20h 32m 31s ago, saying: 'yes, Arthas- ?'. |
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| 21:12.54 | Arthas- | ~seen Alevice_work |
| 21:12.55 | purl | alevice_work <~alevice@201.155.119.183> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 1h 30m 58s ago, saying: 'cya'. |
| 21:13.02 | Arthas- | O_o |
| 21:13.03 | Arthas- | bah |
| 21:13.12 | Skizot_ | enough names?? |
| 21:13.13 | `228zip | ~seen Romm |
| 21:13.14 | purl | romm <~3e402799@gateway/web/freenode/x-dpvnphwcnjnsawmn> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 23h 20m 6s ago, saying: 'Hey vJeux :)'. |
| 21:13.24 | nicoli_s | `228zip: romm is in here |
| 21:13.29 | Arthas- | Skizot_ ya I think i got em all ;D |
| 21:13.31 | nicoli_s | or he was |
| 21:13.32 | Arthas- | hi btw |
| 21:13.37 | nicoli_s | ~seeon _Romm |
| 21:13.40 | nicoli_s | ~seen _Romm |
| 21:13.40 | purl | i haven't seen '_romm', nicoli_s |
| 21:13.46 | `228zip | romm_ |
| 21:13.50 | jack__ | ~seen Jack__ |
| 21:13.50 | purl | jack__ is currently on #sc2mapster (3h 9m 59s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Jack__'. |
| 21:13.51 | `228zip | But don't worry |
| 21:13.51 | nicoli_s | hmm, he was in here earlier |
| 21:13.58 | `228zip | I have his MSN |
| 21:14.00 | jack__ | kekekekek |
| 21:14.00 | `228zip | and Skype |
| 21:14.27 | `228zip | ~seen `228zip |
| 21:14.28 | purl | `228zip is currently on #sc2mapster (21h 56m 6s). Has said a total of 785 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen `228zip'. |
| 21:14.39 | `228zip | Should have disconnected while sleeping |
| 21:14.45 | `228zip | This is not a pretty sight |
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| 21:15.16 | Skizot_ | where's that map 228? |
| 21:15.18 | Skizot_ | lol |
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| 21:15.51 | TriGuN | hrm |
| 21:16.03 | Insaneelite | Anybody got that custom map patcher to work? Not working for my friend and I. |
| 21:16.23 | Denis_ | anyone knows where to find any spell's mana cost? Its not in units and not in weapons.. |
| 21:16.29 | TriGuN | hrm how do you open up the mods? |
| 21:16.32 | TriGuN | to add files? |
| 21:16.41 | TriGuN | or import them into them |
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| 21:18.34 | Furyhunter | so |
| 21:18.49 | Furyhunter | my school's tech team threatened my friend and I with legal action for playing starcraft on our laptops on the school network. lol. |
| 21:19.06 | Shenlok | on what grounds |
| 21:19.13 | Denis_ | maybe ure supposed to go to school to learn not to play sc2 xD |
| 21:19.16 | Furyhunter | You know, that's exactly what I'M wondering. |
| 21:19.19 | Furyhunter | It was SC1 Denis, lmfao |
| 21:19.59 | Furyhunter | And we weren't the only ones on UDP LAN too |
| 21:20.07 | Furyhunter | It was hilarious, there was like three other people in a lobby waiting to start |
| 21:20.12 | Denis_ | but u were the only one caught. |
| 21:20.13 | Denis_ | xD |
| 21:20.23 | Furyhunter | It's because we unhooked the desktops and hooked to our laptops |
| 21:20.26 | Furyhunter | probably |
| 21:20.30 | Furyhunter | and they noticed the change in machine name |
| 21:20.36 | `228zip | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4FOMKCQK |
| 21:20.38 | snapple | how do you import a custom image to use as a loading screen? |
| 21:20.40 | `228zip | skizot_ |
| 21:20.43 | Furyhunter | I'm sure they were like "who the fuck is Furyhunter@TENACITY" |
| 21:20.49 | Furyhunter | and "bigmoneyhat@WINDONGS" |
| 21:21.25 | Furyhunter | next time we should try using the wireless network instead |
| 21:21.35 | Shenlok | yeah, wireless is much better |
| 21:21.46 | Furyhunter | which is WPA-Enterprise and lets anyone login with their windows network credentials |
| 21:21.47 | Shenlok | they can't see which access point you are using that way :P |
| 21:21.56 | Furyhunter | I couldn't get it to work though |
| 21:22.14 | Furyhunter | Windows XP apparently doesn't support WPA Enterprise |
| 21:22.20 | Furyhunter | so I was kind of boned |
| 21:22.32 | Furyhunter | I had either adhoc or hooking the ethernet from another desktop |
| 21:22.38 | AgentPaper | huh |
| 21:22.45 | AgentPaper | can you not add events to triggers anymore? |
| 21:22.55 | Furyhunter | in runtime? |
| 21:23.04 | AgentPaper | yeah |
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| 21:23.13 | AgentPaper | like, add to a trigger "unit enters region I just made" |
| 21:23.54 | Jimmer | how to I edit an upgrade so that it can't be gotten more than once? |
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| 21:24.14 | Coolflip | supppppppppppp |
| 21:24.39 | Coolflip | you here supmeow? |
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| 21:26.20 | Jimmer | anyone know? |
| 21:27.07 | AgentPaper | so you can't add events to triggers? |
| 21:27.08 | rory959 | why can't i seem to delete the requirement for psi storm? |
| 21:27.19 | rory959 | i see the requirement but i can't figure out how to delete it |
| 21:27.30 | Skizot_ | how the hell do i add that to a map? |
| 21:27.59 | zlefin_ | upgrades have a great ability to modify behaviors, is there any way to get the same kind fo modifications to a behavior from an effect or ability or something? |
| 21:28.07 | mog|afk | there should be a small red something at the boddom of the requirements rory |
| 21:28.08 | zlefin_ | or is there any way to apply an upgrade to only one unit? |
| 21:28.17 | zlefin_ | if not i'll just use a workaround, but if there is, it'd b handy |
| 21:28.21 | Skizot_ | `228zip ? |
| 21:28.30 | rory959 | oh i was trying to edit it in abilities |
| 21:28.41 | rebb | hm, are labels the only way to add text to dialogs ? |
| 21:28.41 | `228zip | `228zip |
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| 21:29.11 | `228zip | yes Skizot_ ? |
| 21:29.27 | `228zip | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4FOMKCQK <= the script is right there |
| 21:29.52 | Skizot_ | how do i add it to a map? |
| 21:29.59 | rory959 | mog|afk: i don't see the red button, but i can right click on it and click remove |
| 21:30.02 | rory959 | mog|afk: but then nothing happens |
| 21:30.08 | `228zip | Skizot_ ow |
| 21:30.13 | `228zip | I'm going to give you the map |
| 21:30.15 | `228zip | simpler |
| 21:30.24 | mog|afk | where are u trying to remove it? |
| 21:30.30 | Skizot_ | lol |
| 21:30.34 | rory959 | data editor > reqirements |
| 21:31.02 | mog|afk | you wanna remove it from a ability or change it? |
| 21:31.59 | rory959 | basically i just want psi storm to be able to be used right out the gate |
| 21:32.10 | TriGuN | ehem |
| 21:32.11 | TriGuN | guys |
| 21:32.17 | Vailreth | this game is Beautiful |
| 21:32.20 | `228zip | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=20W0L48G |
| 21:32.22 | TriGuN | custem loading screens |
| 21:32.24 | TriGuN | iso how |
| 21:32.30 | `228zip | skizot_ http://www.megaupload.com/?d=20W0L48G |
| 21:32.33 | mog|afk | then go into the ability to the point commands+ , click on the execute psi thing, scroll down to requirements and there is a small red x u have to click |
| 21:32.35 | AgentPaper | goddamnit why can't you add events to triggers |
| 21:32.49 | AgentPaper | I can't make my map without that |
| 21:33.17 | Skizot_ | http://media.fukung.net/images/22417/1195325428767re1.jpg |
| 21:33.48 | nicoli_s | mmm, new servers with 32 cores and 96 gigs of ram.....droool |
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| 21:33.58 | rory959 | mog|afk: i don't follow what you mean by point commands+ |
| 21:34.11 | Valaraukador | TGA files can be used directly as custom loading screens under map options i believe |
| 21:34.18 | mog|afk | u are at the ability High Templar- Psi Storm? |
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| 21:34.26 | rory959 | yes |
| 21:34.30 | Insaneelite_ | Anybody get that custom map patcher to work for them? |
| 21:34.42 | nhesson | gamestop keys = half trash. lol someone is stealing gamestop keys and using them. 2nd key from gamestop "already claimed" |
| 21:34.50 | mog|afk | on the right there is now one field called Commands + |
| 21:34.57 | mog|afk | or (none) Commands + |
| 21:35.03 | rory959 | ok yeah |
| 21:35.03 | mog|afk | edit this field |
| 21:35.35 | mog|afk | there u can choose a requirement for a ability or delete an existing one |
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| 21:36.36 | Bifuu | back |
| 21:36.39 | Bifuu | any one miss me? |
| 21:37.07 | rory959 | ok thanks mog|afk |
| 21:37.11 | mog|afk | np |
| 21:37.15 | Skizot_ | `228zip... that hellion is HIDEOUS |
| 21:37.46 | TriGuN | valaraukador hwodo i put them in the folder that ge looks in/ |
| 21:38.04 | Skizot_ | what the hell... |
| 21:38.09 | Skizot_ | there's no code here. |
| 21:38.32 | `228zip | skizot_ It's in the imported files |
| 21:38.36 | Valaraukador | F9- Import |
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| 21:38.43 | `228zip | what's the matter with the hellion ? |
| 21:39.44 | Skizot_ | you used that goofy as FUCK wasd code... |
| 21:39.52 | Skizot_ | i'd give ya the fix... |
| 21:39.56 | Skizot_ | but DAMN son. |
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| 21:40.19 | TriGuN | ok |
| 21:40.50 | `228zip | Skizot_ What's the matter now ? =X |
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| 21:41.23 | Skizot_ | it's moving the unit rather than having the unit move. |
| 21:41.36 | Skizot_ | having the unit move is SO much better |
| 21:41.51 | `228zip | I like having control over what's happening |
| 21:41.57 | `228zip | I'll fix the pathing later |
| 21:42.22 | TriGuN | Valaraukador: what file type does it have to be |
| 21:42.24 | Arthas- | what wasd code are we talking about |
| 21:42.44 | `228zip | mine |
| 21:42.51 | Valaraukador | TGA - Targa |
| 21:42.57 | `228zip | it moves the unit rather than ordering it to move |
| 21:43.03 | Arthas- | ah |
| 21:43.21 | TriGuN | what program do oi have to use for it? |
| 21:43.22 | Valaraukador | wasd can be useful in certain situations |
| 21:43.22 | heysparky | skizot - you have an example of an alternative? |
| 21:43.33 | heysparky | skizot - to hellion? |
| 21:43.49 | `228zip | I plan on having a jeep |
| 21:44.09 | Zachet | Apparently there's a possibly a different type of ' scan range ' that detects if same player units in X radious are under attack... it is much greater than the scan range which is like 0.5 |
| 21:44.10 | Zachet | any idea? |
| 21:44.11 | Valaraukador | actually nevermind |
| 21:45.11 | Zachet | My missle currently turns around if I get hit from behind and it's about 3 range away to hit my attacker |
| 21:45.17 | Zachet | no wanti |
| 21:45.28 | griffith` | do you think SC2 will have the player base to support 6v6 custom maps? |
| 21:45.32 | Zachet | bad missle! no cookie! |
| 21:45.42 | rebb | Skizot_: you of the counts of poly ? |
| 21:45.52 | rebb | meh |
| 21:46.20 | uBdead | hey guys where do i edit data tables lol? |
| 21:46.34 | Zachet | Data editor? |
| 21:46.40 | heysparky | 02<heysparky> 01skizot - you have an example of an alternative 01to wasd-hellion? |
| 21:47.34 | uBdead | Zatched: im not seeing it? |
| 21:47.44 | Arthas- | heysparky hatis code will do fine |
| 21:47.46 | Arthas- | its under assets |
| 21:47.49 | Zachet | There's a toolbar icon but, Modules > Data |
| 21:47.55 | Zachet | Unless you're talking about something else |
| 21:48.09 | uBdead | i know how to open the data editor :D |
| 21:48.12 | Zachet | lol |
| 21:48.13 | Zachet | Thank god |
| 21:48.17 | heysparky | 01arthas: link? |
| 21:48.17 | uBdead | data _tables_ :) |
| 21:48.19 | Zachet | I have hope for you yet |
| 21:48.21 | Zachet | I gotcha |
| 21:48.25 | Zachet | Let me know if you find out |
| 21:48.49 | HaVoC373 | does anyone here know how to the the lighting effects to show in the editor? |
| 21:49.16 | HaVoC373 | nvr mind |
| 21:49.40 | Zachet | Apparently there's a possibly a different type of ' scan range ' that detects if same player units in X radious are under attack... it is much greater than the scan range which is like 0.5 as if I get hit from behind my other 'unit' turns around to attack it |
| 21:49.45 | Zachet | any idea how to edit/stop this? |
| 21:50.58 | Vailreth | not sure, what is happening? |
| 21:51.19 | uBdead | who has done some work with the "data table" triggers? |
| 21:51.40 | Zachet | Talking to me Vailreth? |
| 21:51.54 | Vailreth | is the attaked unit retargeting and the old missle chaning targets because them parent did? |
| 21:51.57 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 21:52.30 | Akkernight | in the Unit Editor, what am I looking for to change how far the unit can shoot/fire/aim ? |
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| 21:52.55 | m0g | its at the weapon not the unit called range |
| 21:53.14 | Zachet | Two units same player: Marine and Missle, Marine 'creates' missle to attack forward, works perfect even if there's an enemy humping my leg (not attack) if the missle is about 2 range away and the unit humping me attacks me it turns around to hit the attacker |
| 21:53.45 | Akkernight | m0g: so for the Missile Turret, I want to change Weapon - MissileTurret |
| 21:54.18 | Zachet | Figured there might be a flag like, ' Help a brother out ' flag =/ |
| 21:54.22 | Vailreth | is it an ability or a wapon? |
| 21:54.27 | rebb | Zachet: i had a similar problem, try making a copy of the "attack" ability and edit it's Scan-Filters as needed and give that adjusted attack-ability to your units, maybe it helps |
| 21:54.30 | Vailreth | weapon* |
| 21:54.46 | Zachet | mkay, I'll try going over that |
| 21:54.47 | Zachet | It's a unit |
| 21:54.50 | uBdead | > ' Help a brother out ' > lol |
| 21:54.52 | Zachet | that has a missle model |
| 21:54.57 | Zachet | that works like a missle |
| 21:55.02 | Zachet | and has a collision trigger system for it |
| 21:55.06 | Zachet | and also attacks |
| 21:55.08 | Vailreth | ah |
| 21:55.09 | Zachet | to go boom |
| 21:55.12 | Zachet | (baneling) |
| 21:55.20 | m0g | Akkernightgo to Data tYpe Weapons and search for missile turret... there should be a field with range |
| 21:56.04 | Akkernight | m0g: oh, thanks |
| 21:56.09 | m0g | np |
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| 21:57.19 | griffith` | is there like a crit modifier |
| 21:57.23 | griffith` | for weapons |
| 21:57.32 | griffith` | ie. equipping this gives you a 10% chance to 2x crit |
| 21:58.06 | Zachet | not sure about that, perhaps if there's a way to miss, create two weapons, give one a like 90% chance to miss with no animation so that 10% you do extra dmg |
| 21:58.18 | griffith` | hm |
| 21:58.22 | griffith` | seems like a not very elegant way |
| 21:58.23 | Zachet | Random though |
| 21:58.27 | Zachet | thought* |
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| 21:58.38 | Zachet | There might be a way, data editor is my weak point atm |
| 21:59.36 | uBdead | hey i want to spawn units at a regular interval at a random selection out of 5 points, do i need to do a random roll into a var, and then create and if statement for each of the points? |
| 21:59.49 | uBdead | oh wait i should just put them into an array |
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| 22:03.51 | Sixen | Rawr. |
| 22:03.51 | uBdead | RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRRRR |
| 22:03.51 | Bifuu | MEOOOOOOOOOOOOOW |
| 22:03.51 | uBdead | Dino should be doing a RAWR as well |
| 22:03.51 | nicoli_s | Sixen: so ive had multiple people tell me yer coming on too strong promoting sc2mapster :P |
| 22:03.53 | nicoli_s | yer becoming the used car salesman of sc2 sites :P |
| 22:03.56 | Sixen | lawl? |
| 22:04.04 | uBdead | lol it's true tbh |
| 22:04.07 | uBdead | no offence |
| 22:04.24 | Sixen | "hai, wheres a tutorial" |
| 22:04.26 | Sixen | "<link>" |
| 22:04.43 | Zachet | Still no resolution... blah -- Anyone know where the ' Help a brother out ' flag is so I can turn it off :( |
| 22:04.55 | nicoli_s | well i think its more like the ones where its "omg my mom died, i dont know what to do" "check out sc2mapster.com!" |
| 22:04.56 | Bifuu | Sixen how dare you help people in need |
| 22:05.00 | uBdead | scan range to zero? |
| 22:05.07 | Zachet | Dosen't work |
| 22:05.10 | Sixen | How dare I, :P. |
| 22:05.15 | Akkernight | I know I'm asking many questions. But what am I looking for if I want to scale up the Missile Turret missile explosion? |
| 22:05.17 | HyBReD | new spell finished: http://www.pgn-guild.com/random/Ether.jpg |
| 22:05.18 | Sixen | Nic, that's ridiculous, :P. |
| 22:05.18 | nicoli_s | hehe but yah just letting you know |
| 22:05.20 | Sixen | I'm not an idiot. |
| 22:05.20 | HyBReD | shits DOPE |
| 22:05.32 | HyBReD | if only terrain deformation was in the game |
| 22:05.33 | HyBReD | :( |
| 22:05.35 | Zachet | Actually I have scan range 1 for a reason... |
| 22:05.37 | Zachet | maybe I'll try 0 |
| 22:05.47 | Zachet | Maybe scan range reflects off nearby playeru nits |
| 22:05.48 | uBdead | sweet Hybred |
| 22:05.51 | Sixen | When people bring something up that I think Mapster would make sense on, I give a link. Most of the time, people are asking for help, I link them to something on mapster that helps. |
| 22:06.16 | uBdead | is mapster such a new site? |
| 22:06.29 | nicoli_s | no but the sc2 map making community is new |
| 22:06.42 | uBdead | used to be w3? |
| 22:06.43 | nicoli_s | and unlike alot of other sites, we werent around before sc2 |
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| 22:07.01 | Bifuu | HyBReD: what model is that in the inventory? |
| 22:07.18 | HyBReD | the block? |
| 22:07.23 | Bifuu | the unit |
| 22:07.31 | HyBReD | Dark Templar V2 |
| 22:07.42 | Zachet | No, setting scan range 0 still doesn't work |
| 22:07.44 | Bifuu | O.o theres a V2? |
| 22:07.51 | Zachet | I still think there's a 'help a brother out flag' somewhere |
| 22:08.00 | HyBReD | yea he has a two sided blade |
| 22:08.08 | HyBReD | lance type thing |
| 22:08.35 | uBdead | hybred send me some blood, maybe if i drink it i willl your super mapping powers |
| 22:09.14 | Bifuu | intresting |
| 22:09.19 | HyBReD | lol |
| 22:09.38 | uBdead | also: are arrays zero indexed or one indexed? |
| 22:10.05 | m0g | 0 |
| 22:10.05 | uBdead | in english, is the first element [0] or [1] |
| 22:10.09 | Cr0n0s | 0 |
| 22:10.12 | uBdead | ok thank you |
| 22:10.17 | AgentPaper | 0 |
| 22:10.20 | m0g | 0 |
| 22:10.23 | Cr0n0s | lol |
| 22:10.25 | uBdead | 0? |
| 22:10.31 | m0g | i think its 0 |
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| 22:10.39 | uBdead | zero, or the letter o? |
| 22:10.44 | Sapph | I found a model for the lurker attack but can't figure out how to do anything useful with it |
| 22:11.09 | Sapph | it has 9 different animations that each show a spine in a different location, and it looks like it's ended that you play them sequentially one after another with the same actor |
| 22:11.13 | Sapph | intended* |
| 22:11.32 | uBdead | lurker is awesome |
| 22:11.58 | uBdead | >sup im burried and killing your d00dz |
| 22:12.11 | Zachet | I have a feeling if it is a flag or option in the data editor it has a obscure name so I am not going to find a resolution anytime soon, I might be better making the unit a different player until a solution is found :( |
| 22:12.44 | uBdead | we need to kidnap a blizz developer |
| 22:12.48 | Zachet | I agree |
| 22:12.48 | Statcomm | Bifuu, hi! Any idea how I can upload screenshots to the site? |
| 22:13.01 | Genopath | anyone want to make a tutorial on adding normal attacks to casters? :P |
| 22:13.11 | Zachet | Torturing Blizz Developer: *stab* Biotch *Slap* Tell us where the ' help a brother out flag is ' cmon man. |
| 22:13.13 | Genopath | you cna skip the add ability/command card part |
| 22:13.14 | Bifuu | Statcomm: i just use Tinypic |
| 22:13.18 | uBdead | try uploading your screenshot to something like tinypic |
| 22:13.22 | uBdead | and then linking it |
| 22:13.23 | Jimmer | how do I make it so once an upgrade is researched it can't be researched again? |
| 22:13.32 | uBdead | set the requirement jimmer |
| 22:13.36 | Statcomm | Bifuu, I absolutely have no knowledge whatsoever on how to upload pictures to the web |
| 22:13.39 | Jimmer | what to? |
| 22:13.40 | uBdead | to not researched |
| 22:14.01 | Zachet | Statcomm: Easy temp picture upload http://imageshack.us |
| 22:14.10 | Jimmer | ? |
| 22:14.26 | Zachet | Oh they're for the website |
| 22:14.29 | Zachet | Nevermind. |
| 22:14.33 | Statcomm | Zachet, by temp I'm assuming it's temporary, but what if I wish for them to be permanent? |
| 22:14.41 | Zachet | :) |
| 22:14.47 | Jimmer | that doesn't make sense |
| 22:15.00 | Bifuu | Statcomm: Any image hosting site is pretty easy, you hit a button to select your image off your computer then you hit another button, then it will upload to the web and it will give you a link |
| 22:15.36 | Statcomm | Bifuu, ah I see, then I assume there's a code to convert links into images in Wiki Creole language right? |
| 22:15.43 | Dustin | of course key input is still alggy as hell on sc2 as it was in sc3 |
| 22:15.47 | Dustin | laggy |
| 22:16.10 | m0g | Genopath this is real easy, just add some random weapon to the caster and add the ability "attack" ??? profit.... |
| 22:16.14 | Zachet | Tell Sixen to give me root SSH/SFTP access to sc2mapster and I will upload images for you ;) |
| 22:16.45 | Dustin | Fuck and the spacebar just moves the camera |
| 22:16.56 | griffith` | anyone else find SC2 ME to be a lot harder than WC3? |
| 22:16.59 | Zachet | When you type fuck it moves the camera |
| 22:17.06 | Zachet | That's hardcore |
| 22:17.25 | Statcomm | Zachet, that would work, but how would I give you the files to upload? Or did you want me to upload on a website, then you download and then reupload? |
| 22:17.29 | DeadPixel | Jimmer, go to the requirements tab and look at other upgrades and how they use their requirements |
| 22:17.42 | Jimmer | yeah, it doesn't make sense |
| 22:18.04 | Anders___ | I got a trigger that is triggered by a unit entering a region. In the trigger i want to use the number of the player who owns that unit as an index for an array, how do i do that? There is no "Number of player" and its not a "Player Property". Can anyone recoment a function? |
| 22:18.09 | Statcomm | Bifuu, which image hosting site would you recommend? |
| 22:18.17 | Genopath | statcomm use pb |
| 22:18.21 | Bifuu | Statcomm: theres a button on the wiki pages when you are editing them that takes an image link yes |
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| 22:18.31 | uBdead | mnn i got disconnected :( |
| 22:18.33 | Bifuu | Tinypic is what i used for the pictures in my tutorial |
| 22:18.33 | Statcomm | Genopath, pb? |
| 22:18.37 | Genopath | photobucket |
| 22:18.52 | Statcomm | Genopath, a website I assume, I'll google it. |
| 22:18.53 | Bifuu | Photobucket isnt that great if your pages get viewed alot |
| 22:18.56 | uBdead | is there a way to enumerate all the points on the map? |
| 22:18.59 | Jimmer | right now grooved spines says it requires something called "learn muscular augments" |
| 22:19.04 | Bifuu | damn bandwidth limit |
| 22:19.12 | Genopath | yea that does suck |
| 22:19.16 | Statcomm | Biffu, oh...then which site? |
| 22:19.17 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/city-dead/. City of the Dead. LiVam (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 22:19.19 | Bifuu | imgur is another newer alternative |
| 22:19.20 | Genopath | but tinypic has deleted my images |
| 22:19.21 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/rpg-terrain4every1/. RPG Terrain4every1. unit187 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 22:19.25 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/magecraft/. MageCraft. flying_moose (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 22:19.36 | Sixen | lolwut, Zachet? |
| 22:19.51 | Bifuu | the imgur guys dont care what you do with pictures and bandwidth |
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| 22:19.58 | Bifuu | so tyr that |
| 22:20.11 | Bifuu | i didnt thinka bout it actually when i did my tutorial so i didnt go that route |
| 22:20.30 | Statcomm | BIfuu, I google "Imugr" couldn't find anything |
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| 22:20.45 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux] by ChanServ |
| 22:20.47 | Statcomm | Oh sorry, 'Imgur" |
| 22:20.49 | Zachet | rofl when I made player 5 the missles they were attacking myself |
| 22:21.02 | uBdead | haha :D |
| 22:22.02 | Anders___ | Does anyone know how to convert a player into an integer? |
| 22:22.18 | uBdead | it IS an integer |
| 22:22.20 | Zachet | Give an example |
| 22:22.26 | Zachet | What are you trying to do |
| 22:22.27 | uBdead | no need to convert |
| 22:22.58 | DiNo29 | re |
| 22:23.06 | uBdead | hi dino ^_^ |
| 22:23.07 | Anders___ | im trying to use owner of triggering unit as an index in an array |
| 22:23.30 | uBdead | well it should work |
| 22:24.03 | Zachet | Set variable = triggering player |
| 22:24.06 | Zachet | I think that would work |
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| 22:24.16 | DiNo29 | players are integers ? |
| 22:24.19 | DiNo29 | taht's cool |
| 22:24.20 | uBdead | yep |
| 22:24.33 | uBdead | 0 is neutral |
| 22:24.36 | uBdead | 15 is hostile |
| 22:24.41 | uBdead | and players 1-14 |
| 22:24.42 | griffith` | sc2 had this one tileset that looked like it was from avatar, with floating islands, etc. anyone know which one it was |
| 22:24.58 | uBdead | nagrand :D? |
| 22:25.05 | uBdead | oh wait :D |
| 22:25.59 | Zachet | O.o is it impossible to set players as allies in the player properties |
| 22:26.03 | Bifuu | griffith`: not all tilesets are in yet |
| 22:26.08 | griffith` | ah |
| 22:26.13 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 22:26.14 | griffith` | will they be putting more in during beta? |
| 22:26.16 | Bifuu | kinda blows |
| 22:26.24 | Bifuu | prolly not in beta but i hope they do |
| 22:26.25 | griffith` | what do you mean you can't set players as allies/ |
| 22:26.32 | griffith` | can you have an ally computer |
| 22:26.34 | griffith` | ? |
| 22:26.58 | Bifuu | hopes for more content in next patch |
| 22:27.11 | AgentPaper | huh, can you not open the default melee map files in the editor? |
| 22:27.11 | griffith` | hopes maps are backwards compatible |
| 22:29.34 | Zachet | griffith` you can have allied computers and players. I can set it via trigger but don't think the GUI for pre-game setup was made yet |
| 22:29.48 | warturtle | hahahha http://www.nogodforme.com/images2007/AshleyParty1mp051907142.jpg |
| 22:30.01 | Kylegar | woop |
| 22:30.03 | Kylegar | so |
| 22:30.06 | Bifuu | http://img213.imageshack.us/i/curse1.png/ |
| 22:30.16 | Kylegar | I spent my entire class today working an a C# library to load sc2 map data |
| 22:30.34 | griffith` | lol |
| 22:30.35 | griffith` | wow |
| 22:30.47 | Kylegar | I got buttons and item classes loading from xml |
| 22:31.13 | Kylegar | I'm gonna write a tool that will quickly create items |
| 22:31.16 | nicoli_s | oh yeah Bifuu, we launched that today :P |
| 22:31.18 | griffith` | can you make something that lets us import WC3 models, items, etc? =P |
| 22:31.26 | Bifuu | http://img213.imageshack.us/i/curse1.png/ Hey looky Sixen might not have to make as many people mad with this neat button |
| 22:31.37 | Kylegar | griffith` models, no |
| 22:31.39 | nicoli_s | kylegar:why? |
| 22:31.39 | Kylegar | items...maybe |
| 22:31.46 | Kylegar | if they come in an xml format |
| 22:31.54 | Kylegar | nicoli_s because it's annoying creating items |
| 22:32.02 | nicoli_s | kylegar: just work on MWE :) |
| 22:32.04 | Kylegar | make the item, then the effect, then the unit, then the actor |
| 22:32.16 | nicoli_s | its our map editor at sc2mapster, and its in C# |
| 22:32.22 | Kylegar | really? |
| 22:32.25 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 22:32.36 | Kylegar | link |
| 22:32.38 | *** part/#sc2mapster newbiz (~newbiz@LRouen-151-72-7-131.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:32.44 | vjeux | omg Bifuu ... I said you shouldn't link it on the irc |
| 22:32.45 | vjeux | ffs! |
| 22:32.46 | vjeux | seriously! |
| 22:32.47 | nicoli_s | if youll let me know yer sc2mapster name, ill add you to the project so you can get its source |
| 22:32.57 | nicoli_s | vjeux: its not live yet anyways |
| 22:32.59 | Kylegar | it's Kylegar |
| 22:33.03 | Bifuu | O.o my bad |
| 22:33.15 | Bifuu | but its so shmexy |
| 22:33.41 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/ by Statcomm |
| 22:33.47 | vjeux | ok ... it's a total buzz failure :( |
| 22:34.12 | nicoli_s | ok kylegar yer all ready to go |
| 22:34.21 | nicoli_s | svn+ssh://svn@svn.sc2mapster.com/sc2/milkywayedit/mainline/trunk is the svn url |
| 22:34.47 | nicoli_s | and youll need to follow http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/how-to-use-tortoise-svn-over-ssh-in-312/ to checkout the source with ssh +svn |
| 22:34.53 | Kylegar | yea |
| 22:34.55 | nicoli_s | and im not gonna guarantee it compiles atm, but im working on it |
| 22:35.12 | Kylegar | fear not, I am very good with svn |
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| 22:35.22 | Zachet | Note for those that were keeping up: The, ' Help a brother out ' flag that has been torturing me effects allies as well, I had to create the unit with a different player and set it NEUTRAL |
| 22:35.33 | Kylegar | I ran a source mod for 2 years |
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| 22:35.46 | Zachet | ooo I love svn |
| 22:36.16 | Anders___ | Is it possible to set initial values for an array without the use of triggers? |
| 22:36.56 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r80 Tools/SC2MapEditor (21 files in 4 directories): lots of new stuff, fixes compile issues |
| 22:37.10 | nicoli_s | kylegar: in fact i just committed new code so the editor will be able to view/edit item data |
| 22:37.49 | nicoli_s | but right now our data editor is pretty similar to GE's, where theres a treeview with all entries and when you click it, it loads the xml fields in a property grid on the right |
| 22:37.55 | Zachet | Anders___: I don't see a way to do so =/ |
| 22:38.09 | nicoli_s | but designing wizards for adding new units, abilities, items etc is def in the plans |
| 22:38.13 | Sixen | heh.. |
| 22:38.24 | Kylegar | nicoli_s yea, I was going to work on a tool that just did that |
| 22:38.25 | Sixen | Why would I make people mad, Bifuu? |
| 22:38.29 | Kylegar | so I'll def contribute code |
| 22:38.33 | nicoli_s | awesome! |
| 22:38.42 | nicoli_s | we even have a branch with terrain viewing in 3d :P |
| 22:39.02 | Bifuu | advertising =P |
| 22:39.13 | Sixen | Nic, when I try to open MWE, it tells me it was saved with a later version of VS. |
| 22:39.17 | Sixen | Someone b0rked it. |
| 22:39.21 | nicoli_s | sixen, i committed a fix for it |
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| 22:39.26 | nicoli_s | that was zoxc |
| 22:39.38 | Bifuu | only cool kids use 2010 |
| 22:39.41 | nicoli_s | it should open and compile in vs 2008 or 2010 now |
| 22:39.49 | nicoli_s | theres a sep project for 2010 now too |
| 22:39.52 | *** part/#sc2mapster Magnevv (~Magne@ti0076a340-0307.bb.online.no) |
| 22:39.56 | Sixen | OK |
| 22:39.59 | nicoli_s | or solution rather |
| 22:40.13 | Sixen | Well, I uninstalled 2010 and installed 2008, :P. |
| 22:40.33 | Bifuu | oh yeah?! i have them both installed O.o |
| 22:41.59 | ckknight | hey all, if you haven't seen the music video for MIA - Born Free, you should. it's pretty interesting. Also, don't fast-forward to the punchline. It's on miauk.com (NSFW) |
| 22:42.12 | Sixen | well that was random :p |
| 22:42.19 | nicoli_s | meh mia is overrated, saw her at bonnaroo nothing special |
| 22:42.26 | nicoli_s | she was super fucking preggo at the time though |
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| 22:43.00 | nicoli_s | kylegar: youll find our data editor is pretty cool in the way that its setup, you basically just structure the class just like the xml data and it will just convert to and from the xml implicitly |
| 22:43.12 | Sixen | MIA was preggo? |
| 22:43.15 | ckknight | Sixen: my brother sent it to me, I felt like sharing |
| 22:43.18 | Sixen | LO |
| 22:43.19 | Sixen | :P* |
| 22:43.46 | nicoli_s | and she came out on stage and was like "this is my last show ever, all for you hippies!" |
| 22:44.27 | Sixen | =O |
| 22:44.31 | Bifuu | ckknight: i just watched that like 10 mintes ago |
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| 22:44.36 | payne | hai nubs! =D |
| 22:44.41 | payne | I have a very quick question: |
| 22:44.49 | payne | How to detect if a player has all its unit dead. |
| 22:44.54 | ckknight | Bifuu: pretty horrific |
| 22:45.10 | Bifuu | at the end all i could say was |
| 22:45.10 | payne | in SC1, it would either look like "Command at most 0 unit" or "bring 0 unit to anywhere" |
| 22:45.13 | Bifuu | "wtf did i justw atch" |
| 22:45.21 | payne | please help quick |
| 22:45.32 | payne | its the only trigger I still have to do :( |
| 22:45.32 | nicoli_s | if you really wanan see a crazy movie/video check out Oddsac by animal collective |
| 22:45.55 | payne | hey ho |
| 22:45.56 | nicoli_s | dont think its out on the net yet but i just watched it yesterday and it was the most amazing/wonderful/disturbing piece of audio/video ive ever seen |
| 22:46.01 | payne | any help would be appreciated much, please |
| 22:46.17 | payne | gosh |
| 22:46.21 | payne | what is this channel up for? |
| 22:46.26 | payne | i though it was to help |
| 22:46.35 | Sixen | It seems kinda dead right now. |
| 22:46.35 | payne | omfg, how I hate that god damn SC2Mapster community |
| 22:46.39 | Sixen | :P |
| 22:46.42 | payne | -.- |
| 22:46.51 | payne | I am trying to release my Impossible map |
| 22:46.58 | payne | but I wanna add the Defeat and Victory triggers |
| 22:47.00 | heysparky | 01Bifuu, nice tutorials at SC2mapster |
| 22:47.01 | payne | though GE is so complicated |
| 22:47.03 | payne | -.- |
| 22:47.12 | payne | would you help me, sixen? ^^ |
| 22:47.17 | payne | in honor of SEN :D |
| 22:47.28 | ckknight | payne: please calm down and don't damn our community |
| 22:47.41 | heysparky | 01jeezaloo payne, settle |
| 22:47.49 | payne | ;o |
| 22:48.06 | Xapti | woah, black text |
| 22:48.07 | Sixen | What's up payne?: P |
| 22:48.13 | Sixen | Oh |
| 22:48.14 | Bifuu | heysparky: thanks |
| 22:48.15 | Sixen | Let me see. |
| 22:48.17 | payne | if you guys (who am sure know the answer to my question) would answer it instead of talking of some I-dunno-wut things |
| 22:48.21 | payne | I'd be satisfied |
| 22:48.27 | Dustin | woot |
| 22:48.30 | payne | and would have nothing to say against your community |
| 22:48.33 | Dustin | My Top Down Fighters is now MP! |
| 22:48.38 | Sixen | Payne, just check and see if they have 0 units, no? |
| 22:48.39 | Xapti | cool |
| 22:48.44 | Xapti | dustin did you need testing? |
| 22:48.48 | payne | @sixen how |
| 22:49.00 | liq3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:49.03 | HyBReD | hm |
| 22:49.04 | nicoli_s | payne: have you tried looking at existing maps that do what you want? |
| 22:49.07 | payne | I can't :( |
| 22:49.08 | liq3 | Like everyone who knows the answer had to. |
| 22:49.11 | payne | oh |
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| 22:49.16 | payne | nicoli, somehow good idea |
| 22:49.16 | payne | XD |
| 22:49.18 | payne | lol me sux. |
| 22:49.20 | payne | brb |
| 22:49.20 | nicoli_s | i havent actually done a map with GE myself, but back in the day, that was always the best way to learn :P |
| 22:49.23 | Dustin | I will soon |
| 22:49.24 | HyBReD | how do you increase the range/cooldown of an ability... im not seeing it |
| 22:49.32 | Dustin | Fucking keyboard comamnds are delayed as hell on bnet |
| 22:49.47 | nicoli_s | but i would imagine sixen is right, i think you can make triggers baded on unit count |
| 22:50.01 | nicoli_s | if unitcount of Player1 is 0. then player 1 lose, player 2 win |
| 22:50.04 | nicoli_s | abd then vice versa |
| 22:50.59 | Xapti | it says keypresses use lots of bandwidth... why would that be? |
| 22:51.01 | Sixen | right |
| 22:51.21 | Xapti | what's so special about sending a simple keypress |
| 22:51.30 | Xapti | there's thousands of them in replays |
| 22:51.31 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/new/ by Statcomm |
| 22:51.32 | heysparky | 01detecting it? |
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| 22:51.53 | Dustin | Okay, need two more people to help me test this |
| 22:51.57 | Xapti | you just need the local machine to send the keypress to server only when it presses that 1 key |
| 22:52.04 | payne | nicoli |
| 22:52.09 | Xapti | as opposed to pressing any key (i'm not sure which it does) |
| 22:52.12 | payne | I can'T find any map having the same victory requirement as me... |
| 22:52.37 | nicoli_s | payne:so whats the exact requirement, just unit count of a player is 0? |
| 22:52.38 | Xapti | payne, what is your victory condition |
| 22:52.45 | Bifuu | where does it say that Xapti |
| 22:52.59 | Xapti | if you select the event "keypress" or "click" |
| 22:53.02 | Xapti | it's description |
| 22:53.08 | Bifuu | o |
| 22:53.09 | payne | yes, unit count of a player = 0 |
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| 22:53.14 | Anders___ | payne, use a condition , "Number of units in unit group", "units in region matching conditions" |
| 22:53.14 | Xapti | says this event hshould only be used if absolutely necessary |
| 22:53.15 | payne | I can't find the Events :( |
| 22:53.17 | Bifuu | (never messed with tirggers yet lol) |
| 22:53.34 | Xapti | due to it using large bandwidth or something like that |
| 22:53.44 | payne | oh true |
| 22:53.49 | payne | I forgot we had 'conditions' in scII |
| 22:53.54 | payne | sry, im not used yet XD |
| 22:54.03 | payne | lemme check out what I can do with them |
| 22:54.04 | Bifuu | its probably for like people with bad connections mainly |
| 22:54.07 | Cr0n0s | has anyone used the mod feature yet and tryed to share a map? do you have to give them the map file and the mod file? |
| 22:54.13 | nicoli_s | np payne, everybodys gotta learn their own way |
| 22:54.15 | Xapti | I'm still sort of confused as to why events are separate from conditions |
| 22:54.19 | Xapti | i dont' know why they arent' together |
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| 22:54.51 | Xapti | normal programmign doesn't differentiate them... they're just if statements and logic statements |
| 22:55.04 | Xapti | makes it more confusing people to have them separate ? |
| 22:55.07 | payne | I can't find the "all units" though |
| 22:55.16 | heysparky | 01events seem like things that the engine detects |
| 22:55.24 | heysparky | 01and conditions seem like things players and designers use |
| 22:55.34 | heysparky | 01at least. that's what it looks like to me |
| 22:55.52 | Xapti | why is your text black |
| 22:56.00 | heysparky | me?01 |
| 22:56.03 | Xapti | yeah |
| 22:56.03 | payne | where is 'unit count of a player' condition? |
| 22:56.07 | heysparky | no idea |
| 22:56.32 | Dustin | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/top-down-fighters/files/6-top-down-fighters-v6/ |
| 22:56.34 | Anders___ | payne, use a condition , "Number of units in unit group", "units in region matching conditions", it counts all the units on the map |
| 22:56.35 | Dustin | Need 2 people |
| 22:56.39 | Dustin | for bnet testing |
| 22:56.43 | Xapti | i thought my chat text was black, but i guess it's like 111111 or something |
| 22:56.52 | Xapti | cause your text is slightly darker |
| 22:56.54 | payne | anders |
| 22:56.56 | payne | I can't find them |
| 22:57.00 | payne | even with the serach function |
| 22:57.11 | payne | oh nvm |
| 22:57.16 | payne | I was under 'unit' sry |
| 22:57.17 | payne | ^^ |
| 22:57.49 | Zachet | How do I lower a units pussy factor, he is running away because he can't attack |
| 22:57.52 | Xapti | oh BTW dustin, I haven't successfully done online map yet, |
| 22:57.57 | Dustin | I just did |
| 22:58.02 | Xapti | i tried yesterday and for some reason it just loaded normal LT |
| 22:58.05 | Dustin | Get the patcher from the news post |
| 22:58.05 | heysparky | Yeah, Dustin, I'm not squared away for that yet |
| 22:58.12 | Xapti | the launcher tool doesn't work cause I'm on XP |
| 22:58.17 | Dustin | ohhh |
| 22:58.37 | Dustin | my friend has XP |
| 22:58.39 | Dustin | and it worked |
| 22:59.02 | heysparky | xapti: all my text settings appear to be defaults |
| 22:59.03 | Xapti | that's strange |
| 22:59.15 | Dustin | were you in a lobby before you patched |
| 22:59.24 | Xapti | yes |
| 22:59.33 | uBdead | hey Grum are you in here? |
| 22:59.36 | payne | Anders |
| 22:59.41 | payne | I can't use "Unit count for player" ? |
| 22:59.41 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/configure-controls/ by Statcomm |
| 22:59.49 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/preferences/ by Statcomm |
| 22:59.50 | payne | I would if I could find a "All units" ;o |
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| 22:59.51 | payne | is there one? |
| 23:00.01 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/convert-legacy-map/ by Statcomm |
| 23:00.17 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/dependencies/ by Statcomm |
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| 23:01.23 | Lasion | Is that rickroll intentional? :P |
| 23:01.43 | nicoli_s | what rickroll? |
| 23:01.46 | Furyhunter | lmfao, I noticed that first thing |
| 23:01.49 | Lasion | ^link above |
| 23:01.56 | Anders___ | payne, don't know |
| 23:01.57 | Lasion | Was like "Oh THIS is good!" |
| 23:02.25 | Lasion | Was the first thing I noticed, Rich Ashley in the folder, lurking about |
| 23:03.05 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/new/ by Statcomm |
| 23:03.22 | payne | gosh |
| 23:03.33 | payne | I can't fucking doa simple victory trigger |
| 23:03.34 | payne | D:< |
| 23:03.35 | uBdead | Mojache! |
| 23:03.52 | uBdead | have you tried the "play your custom map online" patching thingy? |
| 23:03.58 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/new/ by Statcomm |
| 23:04.37 | `228zip | I did uBdead |
| 23:04.44 | uBdead | did it work for you? |
| 23:04.46 | `228zip | it worked, except the script failed |
| 23:04.56 | `228zip | There's a bug somewhere in there I gotta find |
| 23:05.01 | AgentPaper | nicoli_s: Sorry, did you say that you can add events to triggers before? |
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| 23:05.11 | AgentPaper | I went to eat and missed it |
| 23:05.21 | AgentPaper | could only see you saying it was a pain in the ass |
| 23:05.22 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by sixen |
| 23:05.27 | nicoli_s | AgentPaper: i dunno i am just guessing |
| 23:05.27 | uBdead | oh man my friend and i just crash when we select a unit |
| 23:05.35 | uBdead | just a vanilla map with only 2 units on it |
| 23:05.35 | AgentPaper | oh? |
| 23:05.41 | AgentPaper | how would you guess, then? |
| 23:05.41 | Xapti | anyone found how/where to download starkart/wacky races? |
| 23:05.51 | Zachet | How do I lower a units "pussy" factor, he is running away because he can't attack? |
| 23:06.05 | `228zip | Xapti: No one knows, you've been asking this the whole day |
| 23:06.10 | uBdead | its a behaivor flag |
| 23:06.12 | Sixen | lol |
| 23:06.12 | `228zip | Zachet: In the unit properties |
| 23:06.13 | uBdead | "flee" |
| 23:06.18 | uBdead | "acquire" |
| 23:06.23 | uBdead | or "do nothin" |
| 23:06.42 | `228zip | also note that a unit can flee |
| 23:06.46 | `228zip | even if it has no mover |
| 23:06.54 | `228zip | at least I think tso |
| 23:06.55 | uBdead | and unit speed 0? |
| 23:06.57 | DiNo29 | lol, fun stuff in "Attachment" drop list for Beam Actor : "Raynor to Swan", "Raynor to Tychus", "Raynor to Adjutant", "Raynor to Hanson", "Raynor to Tosh", "Raynor to Swann", and vice versa |
| 23:07.12 | Lasion | anyone up for a 2v2 game? |
| 23:07.13 | uBdead | ye i noticed that too |
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| 23:07.20 | `228zip | unit speed 0 is how I fixed it |
| 23:07.21 | `228zip | I think |
| 23:07.26 | AgentPaper | nicloi_s: So do you know how to add events to a trigger in-game? |
| 23:07.46 | `228zip | oh it's not |
| 23:07.54 | `228zip | so I really did have a problem |
| 23:08.00 | `228zip | it can't flee without a mover =p |
| 23:08.18 | uBdead | what tileset is lost jungle ? |
| 23:09.21 | nicoli_s | AgentPaper:nope, i was just guessing at what you should be able to do |
| 23:09.28 | AgentPaper | oh |
| 23:09.36 | AgentPaper | well, you can't in basic GUI, at least |
| 23:09.43 | AgentPaper | or if you can, they named it something weird |
| 23:11.06 | heysparky | wow, this editor is hurting my brain after just starting to get it wrapped around wc3ed |
| 23:11.38 | Zachet | -_- Thanks - still looking and still no luck though |
| 23:11.41 | Zachet | :P |
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| 23:12.52 | GralaminShieldhe | So whats the best way to edit the random background image? (Skybox?) |
| 23:12.58 | AgentPaper | where are the multiplayer maps? |
| 23:13.02 | AgentPaper | I can't find them in my files |
| 23:13.13 | Zachet | oh duh I found it |
| 23:13.18 | GralaminShieldhe | Hidden in Appdata with a weird hash I believe |
| 23:13.19 | Zachet | " AI disable flee on damage " |
| 23:13.33 | AgentPaper | really? |
| 23:13.35 | AgentPaper | bah |
| 23:13.42 | AgentPaper | can you open them in the editor in any way? |
| 23:13.46 | GralaminShieldhe | Yes |
| 23:13.49 | Dustin | Hmmm |
| 23:13.53 | AgentPaper | how? |
| 23:13.54 | Dustin | If I Stop all instances of a Trigger |
| 23:13.57 | GralaminShieldhe | You just need to rename them, since they are a slightly different format. |
| 23:14.05 | Dustin | Thatll fuck other players up using the same movement triggers huh |
| 23:14.05 | AgentPaper | ah |
| 23:14.07 | GralaminShieldhe | AFAIK |
| 23:14.31 | DiNo29 | hmmm |
| 23:14.37 | DiNo29 | I noticed something with my beam bounce problem |
| 23:14.45 | AgentPaper | what directory are they in, to start with |
| 23:14.58 | DiNo29 | it always bounce from somewhere the beam was just before, like if it bounced too soon |
| 23:15.34 | payne | FUCK GALAXY EDIT!! |
| 23:15.36 | payne | OMFGGG |
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| 23:15.42 | payne | I JUST WANT A FUCKING VICTORY TRIGGER |
| 23:15.47 | payne | WHY SO COMPLICATEEEEDDDD |
| 23:15.48 | Coolflip | there is |
| 23:15.54 | Coolflip | End game in victory for player |
| 23:15.58 | payne | I know |
| 23:16.01 | Coolflip | -_- |
| 23:16.03 | liq3 | payne: it's not. |
| 23:16.06 | payne | I need condition/eventS/var or what-ever-i-do-not-understad |
| 23:16.07 | AgentPaper | GralaminShieldhe: What directory are the maps in, and what do I re-name them to? |
| 23:16.18 | GralaminShieldhe | AgentPaper: Give me a second to find them |
| 23:16.26 | AgentPaper | kk |
| 23:16.30 | heysparky | payne: I'm looking into it... total newb here, but looking |
| 23:16.37 | rory959 | still no one has figured out first person? |
| 23:16.40 | heysparky | got an hour or so before I have to leave for class |
| 23:16.47 | payne | My trigger should be simple: Player 4 commands at most 0 units in the Entire Map, Trigger victory for player 1. |
| 23:17.21 | Coolflip | so your looking to create a trigger that ends the game if there are no units left? |
| 23:17.25 | Anders___ | payne, event - Unit - Any Unit dies, condition (Number of Living units in (Any units in (Entire map) owned by player (Owner of (Triggering unit)) matching Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most 1)) == 0 --- action Game - End game in Defeat for player (Owner of (Triggering unit)) (Show dialogs, Show score screen), still working on the victory part. |
| 23:17.26 | payne | yup |
| 23:17.42 | Coolflip | thats exactly what i was going to do |
| 23:17.43 | Coolflip | lol |
| 23:18.23 | liq3 | Heh, I've already basically done that. I'm evil tho and won't tell payne. :D |
| 23:18.33 | DiNo29 | loool wtf |
| 23:18.45 | DiNo29 | My buonces aren't off anymore I think, but they bounce in the wrong order now oO |
| 23:18.45 | Coolflip | lol |
| 23:18.51 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hexd/. Hex'd. Qancakes (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 23:18.52 | Labmonkey2 | guys |
| 23:18.53 | Vailreth | my chain attack is almost ready |
| 23:18.55 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/volcan-defense/. Volcan Defense. Barterr (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 23:18.57 | Labmonkey2 | does sc2 have hash tables |
| 23:18.57 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 23:18.59 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/amidias-temple/. Amidia's Temple. Morbent92 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 23:19.13 | liq3 | payne: that's how you do the trigger. |
| 23:20.28 | heysparky | coolflip, anders, liq3: that's a comparison condition, yes? |
| 23:20.32 | GralaminShieldhe | AgentPaper: Search for *.S2MA file. Most can be found in some place like C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache\1d\e6 |
| 23:20.38 | Anders___ | yes |
| 23:20.39 | liq3 | heysparky: yes. |
| 23:20.41 | payne | anders |
| 23:20.45 | payne | that trigger is just perfect |
| 23:20.48 | payne | though I'm not sure |
| 23:20.51 | heysparky | liq3: ty |
| 23:20.58 | payne | lets say player 4 has 0 units left, okay, he has defeat triggered |
| 23:21.04 | payne | but does all other players get auto-victory? |
| 23:21.14 | Anders___ | nope |
| 23:21.40 | heysparky | you could make that happen, though, yeah? |
| 23:21.42 | payne | Okay |
| 23:21.45 | GralaminShieldhe | AgentPaper: Then just copy to your map folder, and rename like "Twilight Fortress.SC2Map" |
| 23:21.49 | heysparky | if where you set his defeat, you set all others to victory |
| 23:21.50 | heysparky | ? |
| 23:22.13 | payne | are you sure of the "with at most 1" part? |
| 23:22.46 | Anders___ | no need to count how meny units there are, just need to find 1 |
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| 23:23.24 | `228zip | Motive, I need support. |
| 23:23.27 | payne | thank you very much! :D |
| 23:23.36 | Anders___ | np |
| 23:23.39 | zlefin | will overseers be fine balance-wise if i give them the queen's transfusion ability? |
| 23:23.49 | `228zip | no ? |
| 23:24.15 | `228zip | that changes completely their function |
| 23:24.18 | heysparky | liq3, Anders, coolflip: I'm getting hung up on the condition part still, it keeps adding nested condition junk from the logic dialog, how do I get through that and just make a simple condition? (did that make sense?) |
| 23:24.43 | liq3 | double click the "condition" bit above "actions" |
| 23:24.43 | AgentPaper | GralaminShieldhe: Thanks, seeing if I can dig them up |
| 23:24.47 | zlefin | i'm making a queen revamp mod, which removes the queen, and puts its mechanics elsewhere, so i'm figuring where to put the transfusion |
| 23:24.57 | payne | anders |
| 23:25.04 | payne | how did you copy that trigger text-version ? |
| 23:25.05 | heysparky | liq3: right... |
| 23:25.23 | DiNo29 | :D |
| 23:25.34 | DiNo29 | My chain lightning beam origin isn't offset anymore |
| 23:25.35 | DiNo29 | BUT |
| 23:25.41 | DiNo29 | only 4 beams out of 5 shows xD |
| 23:25.43 | DiNo29 | wtf, editor |
| 23:25.51 | Anders___ | payne, rightclick and copy as text |
| 23:25.51 | `228zip | zlefin: The queen is a defensive caster that stays at the hatchery and cooks for the brood, whereas the overseer either oversees an attack (to check for cloaked units) or scouts. |
| 23:25.56 | `228zip | Very different roles |
| 23:26.10 | payne | it only paste my trigger's name if I do so |
| 23:26.20 | zlefin | i know they'er different roles, but i'm not convinced the overseers woudl be overpowered with transfusion, but mainly, i just need to figure out where to put the heal' |
| 23:26.23 | zlefin | and the choicse are limited |
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| 23:26.52 | `228zip | zlefin: Wether or not it's overpowered isn't even to consider: It doesn't fit the overseer |
| 23:26.54 | Anders___ | payne, i copied the individual parts |
| 23:27.14 | zlefin | well, it is for me to consider, since fluff is easier to jsutify than imbalances |
| 23:27.25 | liq3 | zlefin: zergling clearly. |
| 23:27.44 | zlefin | maybe i'll go with the system that lets you consume a larva for the heal |
| 23:28.00 | AgentPaper | GralaminShieldhe: I don't have any folder named "User" in C:\ |
| 23:28.04 | Vailreth | if i had to move Infusion id put it on the infestor maybe and move spawn infested terran somewhere else |
| 23:28.05 | uBdead | zip are you willing to try out the custom map patcher with me? |
| 23:28.14 | `228zip | how do you heal spine crawlers and tech buildings after that ? |
| 23:28.15 | GralaminShieldhe | AgentPaper: Are you using XP? |
| 23:28.21 | AgentPaper | yes |
| 23:28.24 | `228zip | uBdead why not, give the map |
| 23:28.34 | payne | anders, it works! |
| 23:28.39 | `228zip | what servers are you on though uBdead |
| 23:28.39 | payne | only problem: it triggers really slowly |
| 23:28.41 | zlefin | i'd probably give the larva a simpel morph that can't move off creep, and has a timer or something |
| 23:28.41 | GralaminShieldhe | AgentPaper: Then its probably Documents And Settings\UserName\Appdata |
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| 23:28.46 | payne | any ways of doing "Hyper Triggers" on SC II ? |
| 23:28.49 | uBdead | http://www.filedropper.com/gasduel |
| 23:28.52 | zlefin | so it can move far enough to heal buildings |
| 23:28.53 | uBdead | EU |
| 23:28.56 | zlefin | but can't be stockpiled or anything |
| 23:29.03 | zlefin | or used on offense |
| 23:29.08 | AgentPaper | I checked there, there's no "appdata" folder |
| 23:29.19 | `228zip | what your account ? |
| 23:29.21 | Bifuu | its hidden |
| 23:29.23 | `228zip | AgentPaper: It's hidden |
| 23:29.23 | uBdead | ubdead.nld |
| 23:29.53 | AgentPaper | bah, I thought I had those set to show |
| 23:29.56 | AgentPaper | how do I set that again? |
| 23:30.21 | uBdead | try running %appdata% in a command box |
| 23:30.31 | zlefin | ok, i'll put it on the larva; as that seems more agreeable; best to get started, 3 mods to finish, ty for thoughts |
| 23:30.32 | XenTownsend | agentpaper: xp or vista |
| 23:30.40 | AgentPaper | xp |
| 23:30.43 | uBdead | %appdata% is the answer :) |
| 23:30.44 | XenTownsend | folder options |
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| 23:30.47 | XenTownsend | from the menubar |
| 23:30.50 | uBdead | always points to the right folder |
| 23:31.02 | Vailreth | has anyone got a chain lightning spell to show correctly in the data editor? |
| 23:31.16 | `228zip | ubdead, it's whenever you want =) |
| 23:31.20 | AgentPaper | ah, found it |
| 23:31.30 | liq3 | Vailreth: sounds like a tedius to make ability, since it's basically mutalisk bounce. |
| 23:31.46 | liq3 | And mutalisk bounce is done pretty horribly. |
| 23:32.02 | Vailreth | i have it already i just cant get the actor to show between units |
| 23:32.03 | picklefish | vailreth, I know someone had a spell wehere you jump from player to player in a radius 4 times, it'd |
| 23:32.06 | DiNo29 | yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 23:32.10 | picklefish | be quite hard but doable to make |
| 23:32.12 | DiNo29 | chain lightning, finally 100% perfect :D |
| 23:32.21 | DiNo29 | let's all do the dance of joy |
| 23:32.30 | picklefish | vailreth that shit is hard |
| 23:32.39 | picklefish | the actors not showing up |
| 23:32.48 | Statcomm | @vjeux, are you there? |
| 23:32.49 | Lasion | make a youtube of the chainlighting ^^ was wondering how that would look when you talked about it yesterday :) (gz on the fix9 |
| 23:32.51 | Lasion | ) |
| 23:33.10 | payne | guys |
| 23:33.20 | payne | why aren't my texts in the LOAD SCREEN centering? |
| 23:33.30 | payne | I've selected 'Center' as text align :o |
| 23:33.35 | liq3 | wants to stab this guy. |
| 23:33.36 | AgentPaper | hm |
| 23:33.37 | Vailreth | well its not for a spell its for the archons weapon. |
| 23:33.38 | Lasion | Resolution issue? |
| 23:33.44 | payne | oh maybe |
| 23:33.49 | AgentPaper | there's no local or Blizzard Entertainment folder in my appdata |
| 23:33.50 | Lasion | ^^ |
| 23:33.52 | FrozenFirebat | dino29, now make a tutorial on how you get a Chain Lightning effect =P |
| 23:34.14 | Lasion | Tbh, make a tutorial on how to create units within regions D: |
| 23:34.17 | Lasion | scratches head |
| 23:34.49 | liq3 | Lasion: Put a point in the region. |
| 23:34.49 | liq3 | ;D |
| 23:34.50 | Lasion | Last time I made maps was with the SC1 editor... Let's just say things have changed since then. |
| 23:34.52 | Statcomm | vjeux, are you there? |
| 23:34.57 | vjeux | yes |
| 23:35.08 | Statcomm | vjeux, might I have a quick word with you? |
| 23:35.14 | vjeux | sure |
| 23:35.21 | Statcomm | I don't know how to open a seperate chat though :X |
| 23:35.28 | Lasion | Doubbleclick his name ^^ |
| 23:35.29 | liq3 | ./query |
| 23:35.29 | Sixen | :P |
| 23:35.31 | `228zip | uBdead give the map§ |
| 23:35.33 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.33 | Sixen | ! |
| 23:35.35 | FRoZeN | ramps are fucked |
| 23:35.40 | Statcomm | Sixen, thanks |
| 23:35.50 | uBdead | zip ill whip one up real fast |
| 23:35.53 | FRoZeN | just deleted some ramps that went black. .then GE crashed -_- |
| 23:36.04 | Lasion | Saved your project? |
| 23:36.08 | FrozenFirebat | It's ANOTHER frozen! |
| 23:36.11 | DiNo29 | FrozenFirebat maybe I will, but it will be 25 pages long, dunno if peoples will read it :( |
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| 23:36.23 | FRoZeN | luckily i saved just before |
| 23:36.23 | Lasion | DiNo29 o_O |
| 23:36.24 | FrozenFirebat | I can't see it being 25 pages long... |
| 23:36.25 | FRoZeN | phew |
| 23:36.34 | `228zip | Does someone knows how to get the host of the game via galaxy ? |
| 23:36.47 | Lasion | Btw, did you manage to do it all "trigger-free"? |
| 23:37.26 | AgentPaper | GralaminShieldhe: There's no "Local" or "Blizzard Entertainment" folder in my appdata folder |
| 23:37.30 | FrozenFirebat | I wrote a tutorial on how to give a unit multiple weapons and while it took me a day to figure out how to do it right, the tutorial is so short. http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401906857&sid=5000 |
| 23:37.42 | DarkIce | dino29, did you base yours off the muta attack? |
| 23:37.50 | AgentPaper | GralaminShieldhe: wait nm |
| 23:38.00 | vjeux | FrozenFirebat: can't see any mapster link ... wth? :P |
| 23:38.00 | DiNo29 | FrozenFirebat : It uses 20 effects, 8 Actors, 1 custom Validator, and 1 custom Target Sorts, that last one being a Data Editor type I had never heard of before :p |
| 23:38.07 | AgentPaper | it was in Local Setting\Appplication Data\Blizzard Entertainment |
| 23:38.09 | AgentPaper | weird |
| 23:38.23 | FrozenFirebat | now I really want to see it in action Dino XD |
| 23:38.29 | uBdead | zip: http://www.filedropper.com/customgametest01 |
| 23:38.33 | FrozenFirebat | at least post a map so we can look over the data |
| 23:38.49 | liq3 | DiNo29: so a tutorial should taek about an hour? ;] |
| 23:38.50 | DiNo29 | I did today, but upload the new version now |
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| 23:40.44 | uBdead | zip are you there? |
| 23:42.19 | payne | How likes Impossible Scenarios and is good at micro? |
| 23:42.25 | payne | I must test my map with 2 players :o |
| 23:42.48 | Bifuu | DiNo29: what was the issue? rather how did ou fix it |
| 23:42.51 | FRoZeN | hmm GE keeps crashing when trying to delete those ramps :( |
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| 23:43.23 | FRoZeN | payne u eu? |
| 23:43.28 | DiNo29 | where do you set an cooldown to an ability |
| 23:43.30 | Elyk | Ok, I've got a big problem. My map crashes when I test it now... even with all triggers disabled and I don't have a backup |
| 23:43.31 | rory959 | still no one has figured out first person? |
| 23:43.36 | payne | US |
| 23:43.40 | payne | CAN* :P |
| 23:43.40 | DiNo29 | Bifuu : it still doesnt make sense, but I changed all the Events+ for the actor |
| 23:43.41 | Bifuu | DiNo29: its Cost |
| 23:43.44 | Elyk | anyone know if you can port over triggers and data to a new map? |
| 23:43.50 | FRoZeN | payne: cant help u then |
| 23:43.53 | PointBlan | can anyone tell me where i go to add an upgrade to a building? (i.e. put infantry weapons on the armory) |
| 23:43.59 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: 1e doesn't make any sense. :/ |
| 23:44.00 | payne | thx anyways ^^ |
| 23:44.05 | DiNo29 | cost+ ? where in it ? :o |
| 23:44.17 | Bifuu | i dunno i just know its in there |
| 23:44.18 | GralaminShieldhe | I need opinions people |
| 23:44.18 | Zachet | So, I am guessing the reason I keep people seeing people bitching about killing a large number of units is because it's not easily possible |
| 23:44.19 | Bifuu | lol lemme look |
| 23:44.25 | Elyk | PointBlan: add the ability to the unit (or structure) than add the button to the command card |
| 23:44.45 | Cerebral_ | Upgrades require alot of tweaks to get to work correctly. |
| 23:44.50 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: oh nvm. |
| 23:44.58 | Gralamin | http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8972/pacman1z.jpg <- How does this work / Suggestions? |
| 23:45.02 | Gralamin | look* |
| 23:45.07 | Cerebral_ | Best bet is to look at say charge, and figure out how they got it to work |
| 23:45.18 | uBdead | its safe to delete your cache folder in appdata right? |
| 23:45.20 | PointBlan | elyk: got it thx |
| 23:45.55 | Lasion | Gralamin, look quite awesome, but for the dead ends on the middle to the sides, I would maybe put an exit up or down (or both). |
| 23:45.57 | DiNo29 | looks great Gralamin :) |
| 23:46.00 | Elyk | someone please tell me there is a way to copy triggers and data from map to another =( my map crashes on load now... |
| 23:46.27 | Lasion | Elyk, even if your map crashes in SC2, it should be able to just load it in GE again? |
| 23:46.30 | heysparky | uhoh elyk |
| 23:46.31 | Zachet | It's probley a trigger crashing it Elyk |
| 23:46.36 | Lasion | Or did you create a map purely without saving it? |
| 23:46.40 | Elyk | I turned off all my triggers... |
| 23:46.41 | uBdead | elyk you could try to open your map in a MPQ editor |
| 23:46.48 | Bifuu | Dino, yeah its in cost for the ability |
| 23:46.50 | uBdead | and extract the triggers |
| 23:46.55 | Zachet | Gralamin how does it not work? |
| 23:46.57 | Elyk | I can open in GE but testing crashes |
| 23:46.59 | Bifuu | Just set the Time USe |
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| 23:47.04 | Gralamin | Zachet: It works. I meant look |
| 23:47.05 | uBdead | oh |
| 23:47.10 | Skizot | `228zip still here? |
| 23:47.15 | Zachet | Ah, It is sexy I'll give it that |
| 23:47.19 | uBdead | he should be |
| 23:47.22 | `228zip | Skizot yup |
| 23:47.33 | `228zip | Going to do a multiplayer test on my map |
| 23:47.39 | `228zip | Skizot: I fixed the pathing too |
| 23:47.47 | uBdead | ok i deleted my cache folder |
| 23:48.05 | uBdead | maybe that was causing some trouble |
| 23:48.18 | Zachet | This has to be the best Action Trigger, Ever: Global Suicide |
| 23:48.24 | `228zip | x) |
| 23:48.25 | Skizot | pathing? |
| 23:48.30 | Lasion | haha |
| 23:48.34 | uBdead | lol |
| 23:48.34 | Lasion | Global Suicide. Win. |
| 23:48.42 | uBdead | brb getting the cache files from bnet |
| 23:48.43 | `228zip | Skizot: You know, you could go though cliffs and all |
| 23:49.00 | Skizot | http://i43.tinypic.com/52got4.jpg |
| 23:49.10 | Skizot | yeah but that's because you are making the unit MOVE wrong. |
| 23:49.20 | DiNo29 | Hey, I put a finish time to my ability, but the unit can still move after starting cast and before finish time. I want the caster to be locked |
| 23:49.25 | `228zip | uBdead: Don't forget to restore the map |
| 23:49.27 | Zachet | Wtf is this, how do you kill several units with a trigger? |
| 23:49.39 | uBdead | i know |
| 23:49.41 | Skizot | pick all units in group |
| 23:49.49 | `228zip | Wow Skizot, it really looks like Contra |
| 23:49.49 | uBdead | that's why i think something went wrong somewhere |
| 23:49.51 | Fisker | ooh mario bros Skizot |
| 23:49.53 | Elyk | Ok, I figured out the culprit... the command center I modified is crashing the game... |
| 23:49.54 | DiNo29 | kill several units in a trigger is easy ^^' |
| 23:49.56 | uBdead | so i redownloaded the cache |
| 23:49.58 | Elyk | gonna have to redo it |
| 23:50.00 | heysparky | why in the world did they get rid of for loops? |
| 23:50.12 | Zachet | There's still loops |
| 23:50.16 | DiNo29 | so how to set an ability so that the caster can't move while casting |
| 23:50.17 | heysparky | yes |
| 23:50.17 | `228zip | heysparky: While ? |
| 23:50.32 | `228zip | I must admit I liked JASS's exitwhen |
| 23:50.40 | heysparky | sure sure, there's while |
| 23:50.41 | rory959 | does anyone have any experience implenting custom races? |
| 23:50.47 | `228zip | uBdead |
| 23:50.48 | `228zip | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RQ2XXC50 |
| 23:50.48 | heysparky | but WHY |
| 23:50.53 | Skizot | other than some goofy ass error... i'm good. |
| 23:51.04 | uBdead | it says not aviable zip |
| 23:51.08 | uBdead | try filedropper.com |
| 23:51.11 | `228zip | retry in a few sec |
| 23:51.48 | Dustin | Filedropper is amazing |
| 23:51.57 | uBdead | its the best ever |
| 23:52.02 | `228zip | why is that ? |
| 23:52.04 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/sc2-curse-com-download-starcraft-ii-maps/ |
| 23:52.07 | uBdead | no hassle |
| 23:52.08 | FrozenFirebat | skizot, in that contra map, did you apply gravity to it already? can you jump and shoot? |
| 23:52.08 | uBdead | no timers |
| 23:52.14 | uBdead | fast download |
| 23:52.23 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/impossible-one/. Impossible One. payne007 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 23:52.23 | Skizot | yes and no. |
| 23:52.37 | Skizot | my shoot is a VERY custom gun. |
| 23:53.11 | DiNo29 | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/files/426/588/Chain_Lightning_v2a.SC2Map Here it is ! :) |
| 23:53.12 | Lasion | How closely related is SC2Mapster and Curse.com btw? Same owners, or just affiliates? |
| 23:53.18 | `228zip | davidcramer: Looks like curse does it now |
| 23:53.20 | vjeux | same teams |
| 23:53.23 | DiNo29 | Data Editor only chain lightning, working perfectly now |
| 23:53.29 | Lasion | I see |
| 23:53.46 | Lasion | Nice Dino! Excited to test it ^^ |
| 23:54.26 | DiNo29 | bounce from one unit to another 5 times in a row, never hitting the same unit, does decreasing damages, has a boucing beam visual effect, uses 20 effects and 8 actors (probably half of them being useless though, didn't optimize yet :p) |
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| 23:54.56 | heysparky | Is Repo actually a person? |
| 23:55.16 | Bifuu | Nifty Curse site |
| 23:55.21 | `228zip | vjeux, repo needs a better! |
| 23:55.23 | `228zip | name |
| 23:55.33 | vjeux | we like it that way! |
| 23:55.38 | Lasion | uh oh |
| 23:55.48 | Lasion | I just had it stop at 2 jumps with enemies nearby >_> |
| 23:56.08 | heysparky | nice, Dino! Very cool. |
| 23:56.16 | Bifuu | vjeux: go steal me Repo's source code, i wanna make a Bif Bot |
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| 23:56.39 | DiNo29 | oh, nice stuff on curse, was it "The Big News" vjeux ? |
| 23:56.48 | TriGuN | ehhem we have boundage that is all! |
| 23:56.58 | DiNo29 | thanks ^^ |
| 23:57.33 | Skizot | oh fucking hell. |
| 23:57.37 | vjeux | yes DiNo29 :p |
| 23:57.58 | Lasion | DiNo29, is it from target - then 5 jumps (i.e. 6 hits total) btw? |
| 23:58.00 | DiNo29 | well yeah, that is a big news, nice one :) |
| 23:58.08 | DiNo29 | nah, 5 ennemies hits total |
| 23:58.13 | liq3 | oh my god lawl. My marauder that fire nukes just went "got a whole lotta love." >.> |
| 23:58.16 | Zachet | How the hell do you ' okay ' changes to the game lighting... it keeps going back to this red char and I can't set it back O.o |
| 23:58.18 | Lasion | I'm having varied results here ^^ |
| 23:58.19 | FrozenFirebat | Dino, did you edit some things that aren't related to the CL effect? |
| 23:58.22 | DiNo29 | but it's easy to add some |
| 23:58.29 | FrozenFirebat | I see a missile turret attack edited in here too |
| 23:58.48 | Lasion | Anyway, off to test the new L4D2 map |
| 23:58.51 | DiNo29 | what to you mean ? I edited some actors, one validator, and one Target Sort too |
| 23:59.32 | FrozenFirebat | under data source, I just showed the map so all I see is the stuff you changed, and under models, you changed the missile turret |
| 23:59.40 | FrozenFirebat | was that part of the attack, or something random? |
| 23:59.43 | DiNo29 | oh yeah |
| 23:59.43 | Gralamin | These spheres good, or should they be resized? (Also, anyway to easily align them to the grid? =/) http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/383/pacman2.jpg |
| 23:59.46 | DiNo29 | its part of the attack |
