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| 00:00.11 | ThisIsSpoofed | Hey |
| 00:00.14 | liq3 | Anything that blizz would sell, is going to more or less be a game, using the SC2 engine. |
| 00:00.16 | Jcup | liq3: yeah its done through behaviors and I dont know why they just dont have a default value anywhere ill toy with it, thanks for the help :D |
| 00:00.20 | Dinoo | hmmm |
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| 00:00.26 | Dinoo | how to see older news on sc2mapster ? |
| 00:00.27 | ThisIsSpoofed | anyone know how to have an upgrade already researched? |
| 00:00.32 | liq3 | Jcup: trying to make a unit level up? |
| 00:00.40 | Tehwildcard | I think you guys are going way too into it. Dota was the most popular map on wc3. Do you really think the marketplace is only going to have 1-2 maps? |
| 00:00.49 | vjeux | Dinoo: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/ |
| 00:00.51 | liq3 | ThisIsSpoofed: set it as researched with triggers, or remove the rquirement in the data editor. |
| 00:01.04 | Thels | Tehwildcard> I dunno |
| 00:01.04 | ThisIsSpoofed | where is the setting in the data editor |
| 00:01.06 | vjeux | this is not the best solution but that kinda work atm |
| 00:01.06 | Thels | we'll see |
| 00:01.13 | warturtle | "indy game making" when it comes to 3d graphics etc isn't that big of a scene |
| 00:01.13 | Thels | I'm not interested in premium maps |
| 00:01.16 | Furyhunter | Hey, I have to use the Key Pressed trigger in order to do WASD movement, right? |
| 00:01.16 | Acww | What would be better Maze or bound? |
| 00:01.18 | Thels | not gonna bother buying them at all |
| 00:01.19 | Jcup | liq3: I got that down, my hero levels to level 12 and adds stats accordingly but I dont want the stat to start at 0 |
| 00:01.19 | Dinoo | thanks |
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| 00:01.21 | Furyhunter | also it's indie |
| 00:01.22 | Dinoo | so about hero attribute |
| 00:01.33 | Dinoo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNNB0mPb07o&feature=player_embedded the hero here have some |
| 00:01.42 | liq3 | Jcup: make a level 1 that requires 0 exp? |
| 00:01.43 | Dinoo | it wasnt done with GE though |
| 00:01.45 | liq3 | i dunno. |
| 00:01.52 | Sirenfal | Wait... |
| 00:01.54 | Aegis_Runestone | Great, I screwed everything up |
| 00:01.57 | Sirenfal | There's an in-game debugger? |
| 00:01.57 | Tehwildcard | Thels, maybe not. But if you get a Dota quality map for .99c I can think of a ton of people that would buy it |
| 00:02.05 | Jcup | liq3: doesnt it start at level 1? |
| 00:02.10 | liq3 | ... |
| 00:02.13 | liq3 | yeh i dunno. :D |
| 00:02.15 | warturtle | dota isn't high quality enough |
| 00:02.20 | Hati | yes there is Sirenfal |
| 00:02.21 | Thels | Tehwildcard> duno, I haven't played dota recently |
| 00:02.23 | warturtle | they want original art etc |
| 00:02.29 | Thels | but In the old days, I wouldn't pay for it |
| 00:02.30 | Dinoo | you don't know that |
| 00:02.33 | Thels | rather make a free version myself |
| 00:02.35 | Sirenfal | Hati: How do I open it? |
| 00:02.38 | Tehwildcard | No one ever said that, they said it was done before so it wouldn't be "original" if someone made it in sc |
| 00:02.41 | Hati | Conifgs |
| 00:02.42 | qwebirc13297 | Is there an uberlisk (GE) tutorial out? The XML one isn't helping me, the best I can do is get the spinecrawler stuck at the base of the ultralisk. |
| 00:02.43 | warturtle | that's what they have said, Dota wouldn't wualify |
| 00:02.46 | ThisIsSpoofed | what do I need to edit in the data editor to set an upgrade reasearched? |
| 00:02.47 | warturtle | qualify* |
| 00:02.50 | liq3 | Wonder who is gonna make a DotA for SC2. Hrm. |
| 00:02.51 | Hati | Preferences -> |
| 00:02.56 | warturtle | since it just recycles wc3 models |
| 00:02.58 | peterpants | i wouldnt pay for dota but i'd pay for tides of blood of age of myths |
| 00:03.03 | Dinoo | liq3 : everyone |
| 00:03.08 | peterpants | or* |
| 00:03.11 | ThisIsSpoofed | i hope no one is going to make DoTA |
| 00:03.11 | Hati | and Test Document |
| 00:03.14 | Thels | liq3> Blizzard already said they'd make one |
| 00:03.16 | Tehwildcard | They never said it had to be 100% original art |
| 00:03.17 | liq3 | ThisIsSpoofed: remove the requirement. |
| 00:03.20 | Thels | so you get one shipped with your retail |
| 00:03.21 | Grum | hahahah |
| 00:03.21 | Tehwildcard | or anything for that matter |
| 00:03.22 | Thels | it'll be basic |
| 00:03.23 | Grum | i made water move =) |
| 00:03.25 | Thels | but you can work from there |
| 00:03.29 | Grum | /epic |
| 00:03.37 | ThisIsSpoofed | liq3: how? |
| 00:03.40 | davidcramer | I would bet, that because IceFrog is employed at Blizzard (I believe), thats the reason DotA wont qualify ;) |
| 00:03.44 | liq3 | ThisIsSpoofed: no idea. |
| 00:03.48 | Dustin | No hes not |
| 00:03.49 | Sirenfal | Hati: And what? -debug? |
| 00:03.52 | Dustin | He's employed by Valve |
| 00:03.53 | Dinoo | no |
| 00:03.53 | liq3 | ThisIsSpoofed: or just make it auto-researched for everyone with triggers. |
| 00:03.54 | ThisIsSpoofed | lol |
| 00:03.54 | Hati | read ... |
| 00:03.57 | Dinoo | Icefrog is employed at Valve |
| 00:03.58 | Hati | just a hook |
| 00:03.59 | ThisIsSpoofed | meh |
| 00:04.02 | davidcramer | oh really |
| 00:04.03 | Hati | or check-box |
| 00:04.03 | Dinoo | not blizzard |
| 00:04.07 | warturtle | they want original artwork / gameplay etc, not just tower d with blizz art etc |
| 00:04.08 | davidcramer | Why did I think it was Blizz |
| 00:04.09 | ThisIsSpoofed | that might lag the start with all the upgrades I'm using |
| 00:04.17 | Sirenfal | I feel stupid, thanks Hati. |
| 00:04.17 | liq3 | i doubt it. |
| 00:04.33 | Thels | they do want tower d and that kind of maps as well |
| 00:04.36 | liq3 | CPU wise you could upgrade about 1000 things and it'd take about 1/100th of a second or less. p |
| 00:04.36 | Tehwildcard | Lol, warturtle. source? |
| 00:04.37 | liq3 | :P |
| 00:04.41 | Thels | just not through the marketplace |
| 00:04.49 | warturtle | well you have to make a really sick tower d |
| 00:04.50 | ThisIsSpoofed | well, I don't really want it reliant on the map |
| 00:04.52 | warturtle | with custom graph |
| 00:04.58 | ThisIsSpoofed | so I can change the map around later |
| 00:05.01 | Thels | Anything that someone else could reasonably make in a decent amount of time won't sell |
| 00:05.04 | liq3 | what are you trying to do? |
| 00:05.11 | Thels | Dota can easily be copied by someone else |
| 00:05.13 | Thels | so it won't sell |
| 00:05.19 | ThisIsSpoofed | start building up all the characters for my game |
| 00:05.22 | Thels | cuz they just play the free version of the next person |
| 00:05.24 | Tehwildcard | Sorry to say it, but what you're saying is bullshit. They never said it had to be 100% custom graphics |
| 00:05.26 | ThisIsSpoofed | I don't have a clear idea for the map |
| 00:05.33 | ThisIsSpoofed | so I'm just gonna start balancing |
| 00:05.36 | Dustin | it's not 100% custom graphics |
| 00:05.38 | ThisIsSpoofed | till I get an I dea |
| 00:05.41 | Thels | ThisIsSpoofed> make it a mod, not a map |
| 00:05.42 | liq3 | ThisIsSpoofed: i mean, what are you trying to do with the pre-researched thing? |
| 00:05.43 | Dustin | it's a sizeable Amount of Content |
| 00:05.43 | warturtle | If you create a really cool map, with all original content, thats awesome, you can put it up onto the service [Battle.net], and actually make money on your map. |
| 00:05.52 | ThisIsSpoofed | marine shield |
| 00:05.55 | ThisIsSpoofed | pre reaserched |
| 00:05.58 | Thels | and if an "upgrade" has to start at researched, why is if even an upgrade? |
| 00:06.00 | ThisIsSpoofed | for a certain unit |
| 00:06.05 | HyBReD | where the hell is start location |
| 00:06.07 | Thels | just make the marines start with extra hp? |
| 00:06.09 | HyBReD | i completely forgot |
| 00:06.11 | HyBReD | i had it down yesterday |
| 00:06.12 | liq3 | ThisIsSpoofed: the model or hp as well? |
| 00:06.13 | Tehwildcard | "original content" = "original idea" != "full original everything" |
| 00:06.20 | warturtle | yes it does |
| 00:06.24 | Jcup | HyBReD: its in points layer I beleive |
| 00:06.27 | Thels | HyBReD> somewhere in player settings? |
| 00:06.29 | warturtle | his wording is all original IP, even textures |
| 00:06.30 | ThisIsSpoofed | its just an upgrade |
| 00:06.32 | liq3 | ThisIsSpoofed: you could change the model and hp... |
| 00:06.35 | Dinoo | no it's not -_- |
| 00:06.37 | ThisIsSpoofed | yea |
| 00:06.41 | ThisIsSpoofed | I guess I could just do that |
| 00:06.44 | Dustin | someone write me up a Unit Indexing script real fast |
| 00:06.45 | ThisIsSpoofed | Might end up doing that |
| 00:06.45 | warturtle | (Pardo used Warcraft 3 as an example) still tend to use Blizzards game assets (such as art textures), because creating original content takes a lot of effort. And passion alone does not pay the bills. By allowing map authors to earn money from popular maps, those people would be able to fund the creation of their own, original game assets. |
| 00:06.46 | liq3 | or. |
| 00:06.57 | Dinoo | HEY GUYS he mean't original editor, you can't use GE either for premium maps ! |
| 00:07.13 | warturtle | you need your own content |
| 00:07.16 | Jcup | Yeah HyBReD its in the layer right above the giant white box |
| 00:07.17 | warturtle | and IP etc |
| 00:07.18 | ThisIsSpoofed | I wish I could delete units I don't need form the GE |
| 00:07.30 | warturtle | you cant use the zealot model for your warrior |
| 00:07.32 | Jcup | point* |
| 00:07.38 | vjeux | ThisIsSpoofed: you can change the Source data to your map |
| 00:07.40 | Dustin | ALL MAPS MUST BE MADE IN ASSEMBLY CODE TO BE ABLE TO BE PUT ON BATTLE.NET PREMIUM LISTS |
| 00:07.45 | vjeux | this way you will only see your custom units |
| 00:07.52 | ThisIsSpoofed | well |
| 00:07.52 | Arthas- | asdf |
| 00:07.56 | Sirenfal | Is there a way to make beacons take the color of their owner like in SC? Zerg (Large) beacons always stay orange |
| 00:07.58 | Arthas- | someone work for me while i attend sweden rock plz |
| 00:07.58 | liq3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.58 | ThisIsSpoofed | I still need to mod from current units |
| 00:08.10 | ThisIsSpoofed | I just like to keep my work space clean and remove all flying units |
| 00:08.18 | ThisIsSpoofed | other things I wont use |
| 00:08.18 | Arthas- | gnr, aerosmith, gary moore :< |
| 00:08.19 | liq3 | Sirenfal: maybe with lighting effects. |
| 00:08.21 | Arthas- | danzig |
| 00:08.23 | Thels | ThisIsSpoofed> then make a mod based on current units |
| 00:08.29 | Thels | and then make a new map based on your own mod |
| 00:08.29 | Tehwildcard | What you're getting at is... well dumb, warturtle. They want it like the iStore. Not a full blown game |
| 00:08.30 | ThisIsSpoofed | thats what I'm doing |
| 00:08.40 | ThisIsSpoofed | but while making the mod |
| 00:08.44 | Jcup | Anyone know if its possible to set defaults on hero attributes? Help is appreciated :D |
| 00:08.44 | ThisIsSpoofed | I'd like to get rid of units |
| 00:09.09 | HyBReD | ah, yes points. thanks |
| 00:09.20 | ThisIsSpoofed | dam |
| 00:09.28 | ThisIsSpoofed | I just noticed that it can be in a folder view |
| 00:09.30 | Thels | oh |
| 00:09.34 | Thels | new naruto movie :) |
| 00:09.38 | warturtle | I was posting what Rob Pardo talked about premium maps |
| 00:09.47 | warturtle | you will need a lot of original IP and art |
| 00:09.54 | vjeux | Jcup: keep trying someone may ends up knowing the answer :) |
| 00:10.01 | Tehwildcard | "A lot != 100%" |
| 00:10.23 | Thels | yeah |
| 00:10.28 | ScytheBlade1 | how do I define the background to a map? |
| 00:10.32 | ScytheBlade1 | is it based on the tileset? |
| 00:10.43 | Thels | say you want to make a map about 8 protoss fighters kicking trash |
| 00:10.50 | davidcramer | ScytheBlade1: I believe it is |
| 00:10.50 | Thels | and you make 6 new models |
| 00:10.56 | Thels | and use the zealot and dt for the last 2 |
| 00:10.57 | warturtle | they don't want you using blizzard IP at all |
| 00:10.57 | ScytheBlade1 | that's what I thought |
| 00:10.58 | Thels | it'll be fine |
| 00:10.58 | ScytheBlade1 | thanks |
| 00:11.02 | Thels | since you actually brought new art |
| 00:11.04 | warturtle | protoss = Starcraft IP |
| 00:11.05 | ThisIsSpoofed | How do I change colors on unit names? |
| 00:11.06 | Dustin | Anyone seen a function to add a timed Life to au nit? |
| 00:11.10 | ThisIsSpoofed | just wondering |
| 00:11.19 | Sere4 | Thels, you can use their terrain and textures, but you're not going to be able to use ANY Blizzard units. |
| 00:11.21 | ThisIsSpoofed | You could look at the MUEL |
| 00:11.24 | Tehwildcard | lol, then why make it for starcraft? |
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| 00:11.24 | Dustin | I dont want to create a unit indexing system with this GUI crap |
| 00:11.36 | Thels | Sere4> got some source on that? |
| 00:11.43 | Sere4 | Yeah. Common sense. |
| 00:11.49 | Sere4 | You can't sell another company's IP |
| 00:11.52 | Jcup | haha, anybody know if its possible to set a default value to a heroes attributes? They all start at 0 >.< |
| 00:11.55 | ScytheBlade1 | and hopefully last dumb question. When viewing the map bounds, what do the yellow and blue lines mean? |
| 00:12.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I understand I can't build past the blue |
| 00:12.02 | Tehwildcard | You can when they profit off it |
| 00:12.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Not sure what the yellow is |
| 00:12.07 | Kylegar | anyone got leaderboards working? |
| 00:12.07 | Thels | Sere4> you're doing it through the marketplace, so they get their own cut |
| 00:12.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Camera bounds? |
| 00:12.13 | warturtle | http://timhowgego.com/de-analysing-blizzards-starcraft-2-marketplace.html |
| 00:12.19 | warturtle | read their thoughts on it |
| 00:12.27 | warturtle | they want original IP, not protoss/zerg/orc units |
| 00:12.30 | Sere4 | It doesn't matter. There are liability issues with that on Blizzard's part, which is why they have to be picky |
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| 00:12.37 | Iggyhopper | hi |
| 00:12.50 | Acww | Anyone know how to order units though triggers? like move ad patrol |
| 00:12.50 | Iggyhopper | I figured I'd start making video now. |
| 00:12.58 | Iggyhopper | Issure Order? |
| 00:13.04 | Tehwildcard | Sere... that's like saying you can't make videos of starcraft with google ads |
| 00:13.10 | Acww | There we go |
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| 00:13.16 | vjeux | Iggyhopper: hero, items & such things |
| 00:13.17 | Acww | i thought it was order ______ :P |
| 00:13.22 | Tehwildcard | By putting it on their marketplace they're giving your permission to use their work |
| 00:13.23 | Acww | ty |
| 00:13.23 | vjeux | people are eager to know how to do that |
| 00:13.31 | Sere4 | You can't, actually. That's why Blizzard will not give permission to anyone who casts on Youtube with a Youtube partnership |
| 00:13.44 | Jcup | Anyone know how to set a default value to a heroes attributes?? |
| 00:13.46 | Iggyhopper | vjeux: Is that what you guys are working on? |
| 00:13.46 | warturtle | yeah blizz has all rights to broadcasting starcraft 2 |
| 00:13.47 | Sere4 | It's different if you make a video, and google puts an ad on the website. You can't make money off their IP. |
| 00:13.58 | Thels | tower defense from war3? |
| 00:14.07 | Thels | there were turret defense maps long before war3 was out, but nm that |
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| 00:14.17 | ThisIsSpoofed | so does anyone know how to set an upgrade to researched using the data editor? |
| 00:14.20 | Iggyhopper | Thels: Bunker D |
| 00:14.22 | Tehwildcard | Sere4 > http://www.youtube.com/user/machinimarespawn?blend=1&ob=4#p/search/0/JOa3g44ae7U |
| 00:14.28 | Grum | well i ahve my lava going up and down |
| 00:14.30 | Thels | "Blizzard is prepared to share a portion of the revenue if you create your own Intellectual Property, and dont simply re-use their property. Seems reasonable." |
| 00:14.33 | Grum | but erm it doesnt hurt units =) |
| 00:14.34 | Psykus | anyone know how to make a functional bridge? |
| 00:14.40 | vjeux | Iggyhopper: I'm doing community stuff atm (talking to a bunch of people lol) |
| 00:14.45 | warturtle | "If you create a really cool map, with all original content, thats awesome, you can put it up onto the service [Battle.net], and actually make money on your map." BLIZZARd quote.. now stfu and read it again |
| 00:14.49 | Thels | doesn't say you can't use their IP |
| 00:14.51 | vjeux | but that's a common subject on all the boards |
| 00:14.52 | Sirenfal | Is there a way to make the Messages menu never open? |
| 00:14.56 | Thels | just says you have to have a load of your own IP |
| 00:15.06 | Thels | never states it has to be 100% your IP |
| 00:15.08 | warturtle | "all original content" what do you think that means? you can't use protoss/zerg/etc units at all |
| 00:15.24 | warturtle | yes it does |
| 00:15.30 | Thels | warturtle... read it again |
| 00:15.47 | Thels | yes, it says that maps with 100% original content can be premium |
| 00:15.48 | shmen | wth.. all my Unit triggers doesnt work anymore |
| 00:15.48 | Tehwildcard | rofl, so you honestly think they're making a full MARKETPLACE to sell maybe a few maps over a couple years |
| 00:15.52 | Tehwildcard | really...really? |
| 00:15.55 | Thels | it doesn't say that maps with 80% original content cannot |
| 00:16.04 | shmen | even the ones from other's maps |
| 00:16.08 | Kylegar | you know |
| 00:16.17 | Sere4 | You honestly think there will only be a "few" people making mods for SC2? |
| 00:16.18 | Kylegar | it's just speculation until they release their terms |
| 00:16.19 | ScytheBlade1 | This is a really dumb conversation until we get more details |
| 00:16.19 | warturtle | "But maps (Pardo used Warcraft 3 as an example) still tend to use Blizzards game assets (such as art textures)," |
| 00:16.37 | Kylegar | I highly doubt blizz will say 'YOU CANT USE BLIZZ MATERIALS' |
| 00:16.39 | Kylegar | if anything |
| 00:16.41 | NoRoo | Any one know the difference between an actor and a model? |
| 00:16.42 | warturtle | they don't want you using their assets |
| 00:16.46 | Razernok | anyone figure out how to make heroes with exp bars, levels, etc.? |
| 00:16.46 | Arthas- | well |
| 00:16.48 | Kylegar | if you use blizzard stuff, then they take 70% |
| 00:16.49 | Arthas- | regarding own content |
| 00:16.50 | Tehwildcard | Sere4 > A few maps with 100% original content thats good enough to be approved, yup. |
| 00:16.54 | Kylegar | if not, you get 50% or something |
| 00:16.55 | Arthas- | how far would they take that then? |
| 00:17.06 | Arthas- | new textures, doodads, etc? |
| 00:17.11 | Arthas- | units |
| 00:17.15 | warturtle | I really doubt a map will even make it on the marketplace for the next 6 months at least |
| 00:17.16 | Arthas- | i mean |
| 00:17.17 | ThisIsSpoofed | so does anyone know how to set an upgrade to researched using the data editor? |
| 00:17.19 | Thels | Kylegar> it might just be cheaper, since it's less involved |
| 00:17.20 | Arthas- | dota was somewhat original |
| 00:17.20 | Sere4 | You understand that the marketplace is not just for premium maps, right? It hosts the free maps too. |
| 00:17.20 | warturtle | unless it's by blizzard |
| 00:17.29 | Iggyhopper | warturtle your dumd |
| 00:17.38 | Arthas- | although i liked spellforce better |
| 00:17.39 | warturtle | ... |
| 00:17.41 | Sere4 | You seem to be under the impression you can log into the marketplace and only see 4-5 map, when you'll see 4-5 premium maps and a few thousand free ones |
| 00:17.41 | Arthas- | never tried aos for sc |
| 00:17.42 | Tehwildcard | warturtle for knowing so much about it you must have missed that they said it wouldn't be out til a year after release |
| 00:17.43 | Kylegar | also |
| 00:17.45 | Dustin | god damnit |
| 00:17.46 | Static | Is it possible to create new modifiers, along the lines of armored, light, massive, etc? |
| 00:17.49 | Dustin | I cant find Timed unit life |
| 00:17.51 | Iggyhopper | Some people in teams and groups are working on maps as we speak |
| 00:17.56 | Kylegar | blizz said we aren't going to see the marketplace until the first exp |
| 00:17.56 | Kylegar | so |
| 00:17.57 | Kylegar | whatever |
| 00:17.58 | Furyhunter | Alright, in WC3 you either had to make a region and set its properties to make weather effects |
| 00:18.04 | Furyhunter | How do I add weather in SC2? |
| 00:18.06 | davidcramer | Static: in wc3 you could only modify existing i think |
| 00:18.08 | Sere4 | doodads |
| 00:18.12 | Arthas- | Kylegar source on that? |
| 00:18.12 | Sere4 | though only two work atm, I think |
| 00:18.12 | ThisIsSpoofed | so does anyone know how to set an upgrade to researched using the data editor? |
| 00:18.16 | Grum | anyone got any suggestions to 'hurt' units in a certain area? :D |
| 00:18.17 | Sere4 | Rain Medium and Wind |
| 00:18.25 | Iggyhopper | Nop |
| 00:18.25 | Sirenfal | Anyone messed with the bank library yet? |
| 00:18.28 | Sere4 | Rain only shows up on High+ quality settings |
| 00:18.29 | ThisIsSpoofed | @grum: use triggers |
| 00:18.30 | Static | david: not the answer I was hoping for, but ty. |
| 00:18.37 | Furyhunter | Alright, thanks Sere4 |
| 00:18.37 | Arthas- | Sirenfal i was thinking of :p |
| 00:18.38 | ThisIsSpoofed | to decrease hp over time on all units in that area |
| 00:18.38 | Arthas- | but no |
| 00:18.59 | Iggyhopper | oh, ThisIsSpoofed: you can, just remove requirements |
| 00:19.05 | ThisIsSpoofed | how? |
| 00:19.20 | Thels | Grum> 1st thought: make an invisible flying unit that can't move in the area |
| 00:19.25 | Thels | and let it shoot at mobs |
| 00:19.28 | Iggyhopper | hmm, want like an upgraded ground attack to level 2 without triggers? |
| 00:19.35 | Thels | but that's probably too old fashioned |
| 00:19.36 | ThisIsSpoofed | yeah |
| 00:19.39 | Thels | there should be something easier |
| 00:19.46 | Arbalann | wtb a way to make regions snap to gridlines |
| 00:19.47 | ThisIsSpoofed | I can't find the requirements |
| 00:19.55 | Iggyhopper | check out aiblites |
| 00:19.56 | Razernok | anyone figure out how to make heroes with exp bars, levels, etc.? |
| 00:19.57 | Sere4 | Ugh... I know I've seen it somewhere, but where can you adjust the density and occurance of foilage? |
| 00:20.04 | Iggyhopper | Abilites data |
| 00:20.27 | Sere4 | Nevermind, tab all by itself in the main editor window. |
| 00:21.24 | Inschato | accidentally made dark templars that are temporary by making them get hit by the MULE effect |
| 00:21.33 | Iggyhopper | turns into the khala |
| 00:21.37 | Inschato | Hmm.. that might work as a weapon haha |
| 00:22.45 | Arbalann | why is it when you copy and paste a region, it sets the size to 1x1 |
| 00:22.46 | Sere4 | There should be an option on each unit that can set a timer on it |
| 00:22.59 | Arbalann | and you cant copy multiple regions at a time :/ |
| 00:23.26 | Sere4 | Because this editor, so far, is gimp :o |
| 00:23.40 | Acww | How do u add more then 1 units to an variable |
| 00:24.00 | liq3 | you* a* |
| 00:24.10 | Arbalann | add the units to a unit group |
| 00:24.13 | ThisIsSpoofed | when I open a mod |
| 00:24.20 | ThisIsSpoofed | are all the units hp supposed to be 1? |
| 00:24.56 | Hati | is there anyway to make Regions visislbe ingame? |
| 00:24.59 | Sirenfal | Is there any way to use color codes like |c in WC3? |
| 00:25.12 | ThisIsSpoofed | @hati: tiggers |
| 00:25.20 | ThisIsSpoofed | triggers* |
| 00:25.22 | Jcup | Anyone know if u can set a default/starting value to hero attributes? |
| 00:25.24 | Sirenfal | I have text I want to color that is dynamic (player name), so I can't use the editor to do it |
| 00:25.26 | Hati | hmm can't find one to make them visible :x |
| 00:25.35 | ThisIsSpoofed | should be one of them |
| 00:25.38 | ThisIsSpoofed | I know sc1 had it |
| 00:26.22 | Sirenfal | It's not under Region |
| 00:26.25 | Sirenfal | It's under Visibility |
| 00:26.44 | Sirenfal | You want "Reveal Area", I think |
| 00:27.05 | SevenSeven | anyone know how to add a new effect or weapon to a unit using the data editor? |
| 00:27.06 | Hati | hmm |
| 00:27.11 | Hati | i want to colorize it |
| 00:27.12 | Hati | or something |
| 00:27.18 | Sirenfal | Don't think you can do that |
| 00:27.21 | Sirenfal | :( |
| 00:27.23 | SevenSeven | really? |
| 00:27.48 | SevenSeven | what about creating a brand new unit? |
| 00:27.52 | SevenSeven | there's nothing there o_O |
| 00:27.55 | Inschato | I think the "really" was to hati, not you SevenSeven :p |
| 00:28.01 | SevenSeven | oh lol |
| 00:28.09 | SevenSeven | SOMEONE NEEDS TO PAY ATTENTION TO ME |
| 00:28.10 | Inschato | Adding weapons to units is easy |
| 00:28.10 | SevenSeven | :| |
| 00:28.12 | Sirenfal | Yeah, I meant Hati |
| 00:28.21 | SevenSeven | lol how inschato |
| 00:29.04 | Mojache | anyone know how to change attackspeed |
| 00:29.04 | Inschato | Data, select the unit, then "(None) - Weapons +" |
| 00:29.10 | ThisIsSpoofed | is there anyway so that when I copy a unit it doesn't copy everything under it |
| 00:29.22 | ThisIsSpoofed | I wan't it to use the stock objects |
| 00:29.36 | ThisIsSpoofed | nvm |
| 00:29.37 | SevenSeven | nevermind, I figured it out |
| 00:29.42 | SevenSeven | oh lol |
| 00:29.45 | Inschato | Mojache, "Period" in the weapon is the time between attacks |
| 00:29.47 | SevenSeven | thanks anyway inschato |
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| 00:32.08 | McLovin|Truhan | giggity? |
| 00:32.13 | Iggyhopper | GAGGITY |
| 00:32.24 | peterpants | how do you hide a region |
| 00:33.03 | Dustin | Hmmm |
| 00:33.08 | Dustin | Where do i hadd behaviors to units? |
| 00:33.12 | Dustin | add* |
| 00:33.16 | davidcramer | yay game manually patched iwthout internet |
| 00:33.18 | davidcramer | editor is loading :D |
| 00:33.35 | Jcup | Anyone know if u can set a default/starting value to hero attributes? |
| 00:33.45 | Dinoo | manual patch ? |
| 00:33.48 | Dustin | nm |
| 00:33.48 | Dinoo | the leaked one ? |
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| 00:34.05 | Dinoo | hmm its the same though |
| 00:34.09 | Iggyhopper | I seriously doubt that Blizzard would make anyone wait until the official release to be able to test their custom maps publicly. |
| 00:34.11 | Inschato | Oh dear god I broke the weapon so it wouldn't stop firing even after the target AND the firer were dead loool |
| 00:34.22 | aviru | stupid question: Is there a way to orient doodads as you place them, or do you have to do that by going into their properties after you've made them? |
| 00:34.42 | AngryAmish | using triggers, how can you select the units that are the target of an ability? |
| 00:34.47 | ThisIsSpoofed | so does anyone know how to set an upgrade to researched using the data editor? |
| 00:34.48 | Iggyhopper | At the current state. I have no idea if any of my multiplayer triggers will work or if they could get abused. |
| 00:34.49 | Arthas- | Iggyhopper i agree |
| 00:34.51 | Arthas- | either way |
| 00:34.58 | Arthas- | they prolly need to test their system before releas |
| 00:34.58 | Arthas- | e |
| 00:35.02 | Iggyhopper | Yeah. |
| 00:35.05 | Arthas- | otherwise |
| 00:35.09 | peterpants | is there a way to hide a region |
| 00:35.13 | Arthas- | THE CRAP MIGHT END UP LIKE EUROPES SERVERS |
| 00:35.15 | Cerebral | Hey guys, how can I add the power grid indicator to a new building? |
| 00:35.20 | Iggyhopper | LOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 00:35.32 | Iggyhopper | PowerSource behavior |
| 00:35.40 | Iggyhopper | right? |
| 00:35.43 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 00:35.45 | Iggyhopper | is that wast you want? |
| 00:35.50 | Inschato | Cerebral, take a look at a pylon or protoss building, depending on what you're trying to do |
| 00:36.00 | Iggyhopper | lol Warp in defense |
| 00:36.04 | Cronos | how do i add a modle to a custom unit.. like make it look like a marine |
| 00:36.05 | Cerebral | I have that set, my building has a power grid.. it just doesn't visually show it |
| 00:36.15 | Iggyhopper | hey, do you guys know boosting a warp gate works? |
| 00:36.20 | Iggyhopper | It reduces the warp cooldown. |
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| 00:36.37 | liq3 | Yes. |
| 00:36.44 | Inschato | Did you know it boosts the time it takes for the warp gate to transform into said warpgate? :P |
| 00:36.44 | liq3 | You can boost anything. |
| 00:36.51 | BossMonkey | is it just me or can units not use two weapons at once? /sadface |
| 00:36.54 | Arthas- | btw, has anyone here watched gravity |
| 00:36.55 | Iggyhopper | Yeah i figuredthat |
| 00:36.57 | Inschato | You can boost ANYTHING and make it boot ANY stat, if you modify the spell :p |
| 00:36.57 | Arthas- | s01e01 |
| 00:37.04 | Iggyhopper | but not the actuall boosting of the warp |
| 00:37.27 | Arthas- | BossMonkey |
| 00:37.29 | Arthas- | depends |
| 00:37.36 | Arthas- | you can have one that fires on ground and another for air |
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| 00:37.52 | Arthas- | but if you have two for ground i want to recall the latter takes over |
| 00:38.02 | Iggyhopper | I think the optimum strategy if you want to make money and get a good reputation is to make your map free for a limited time, then put a price on it. |
| 00:38.33 | Arthas- | buy map, recieve pics of iggys mom |
| 00:38.36 | Gralamin | Well there is a bit of leeway. |
| 00:38.39 | Arthas- | easier, faster |
| 00:38.46 | HyBReD | obviously iggyhopper |
| 00:38.57 | Gralamin | If you have a Melee attack, a Ranged attack (Ground only), and an Air attack, then the Melee attack will be changed to when ground units close. |
| 00:38.57 | HyBReD | unless youre 100% sure your map is god mode |
| 00:39.06 | Gralamin | So you could have a Melee, Ranged, and Ranged(Air) |
| 00:39.08 | Iggyhopper | I build a brand new map, dont know if its a hit, but i dont want people to buy it and then say it sucked |
| 00:39.21 | Arthas- | Gralamin |
| 00:39.22 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 00:39.27 | Arthas- | then set a minrange for ranged |
| 00:39.29 | Arthas- | ground |
| 00:39.34 | Iggyhopper | Some people will probably make their maps cost money at first release |
| 00:39.38 | Kylegar | huh |
| 00:39.44 | Arthas- | so that if unit is 2-3 units away, have it charge instead |
| 00:39.51 | Gralamin | Yeah |
| 00:39.58 | Kylegar | if you create an effect |
| 00:40.01 | Kylegar | of an attack |
| 00:40.04 | Kylegar | via trigger |
| 00:40.06 | Kylegar | it does the damage |
| 00:40.09 | Kylegar | like it's attacking |
| 00:40.09 | Iggyhopper | IF I DO YOUR MOM I GET CHEAT COESD |
| 00:40.11 | Dustin | Woot |
| 00:40.14 | Dustin | Got timed life to work |
| 00:40.20 | Iggyhopper | Cool. |
| 00:40.39 | Gralamin | I'm currently playing around, no clear direction on what I Want to try to do yet. Making it hard to get anything done. |
| 00:40.41 | Arthas- | yes, yes you do |
| 00:40.42 | Dustin | Guys |
| 00:40.48 | Dustin | Is there a check Distance between points function |
| 00:40.52 | Dustin | I cant seem to find it |
| 00:40.56 | vjeux | yes |
| 00:40.58 | Gralamin | Was considering trying to replicate the Uberlisk as a nice start point. |
| 00:41.01 | Arthas- | do pythagoras? =p |
| 00:41.05 | Jcup | Anyone know if u can set a default/starting value to hero attributes? |
| 00:41.11 | Iggyhopper | There is a random point between points function. |
| 00:41.16 | ThisIsSpoofed | so does anyone know how to set an upgrade to researched using the data editor? |
| 00:41.19 | Arthas- | sqrt(x^2 + y^2) |
| 00:41.22 | Arthas- | go! |
| 00:41.25 | vjeux | DistanceBetweenPoints |
| 00:41.29 | Tausken | Any idea why when I try and test my map I get "unable to open map" ? |
| 00:41.30 | Arthas- | bah |
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| 00:41.43 | Dustin | I dont want to do math in thsi fucking GUI crap |
| 00:41.44 | Dustin | :P |
| 00:41.49 | Arthas- | tausken, made before aptch 9 ? |
| 00:41.57 | Iggyhopper | Also, I've made stim stack, so you know that mini-game in war3? Uther party? where you have to use spacebar to make a unit go faster? Well now you can do it with stacking stims. |
| 00:42.01 | Arthas- | do math! |
| 00:42.07 | Tausken | just started the map today arthas |
| 00:42.11 | Arthas- | ah |
| 00:42.16 | Dustin | woot |
| 00:42.19 | Arthas- | in that case no idea |
| 00:42.35 | Arthas- | btw |
| 00:42.45 | Arthas- | is there anything like the overlay images in sc2? |
| 00:42.47 | Arthas- | also |
| 00:42.53 | Arthas- | any way to center text in the middle of the screen? |
| 00:43.03 | Arthas- | for my zelda thingie I want a text to appear midscreen |
| 00:43.07 | ThisIsSpoofed | put in a lot of spaces? |
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| 00:43.13 | ThisIsSpoofed | :p |
| 00:43.24 | Arthas- | ThisIsSpoofed that will mess up on other resolutions |
| 00:43.30 | Iggyhopper | lol, maybe i should do stuff like make my map 250 dolloars |
| 00:43.36 | ThisIsSpoofed | I was joking |
| 00:43.38 | Iggyhopper | you hear about that in the app store? |
| 00:43.42 | Arthas- | right, the text could be attached to other parts |
| 00:43.49 | Arthas- | ThisIsSpoofed i know but i still reply |
| 00:43.54 | Arthas- | now |
| 00:43.59 | Arthas- | i demand rule 34 on kerrigan |
| 00:44.03 | ThisIsSpoofed | ... |
| 00:44.04 | Arthas- | since eu is lacking |
| 00:44.10 | ThisIsSpoofed | its prob already been done |
| 00:44.13 | Gralamin | Stop using Rule 34! |
| 00:44.13 | ThisIsSpoofed | just check 4chan |
| 00:44.17 | Iggyhopper | Arthas- oh god |
| 00:44.26 | zifoon | how would u go about making a feedback orb |
| 00:44.30 | Arthas- | ThisIsSpoofed you are thinking of rule 35 |
| 00:44.31 | Arthas- | not 35 |
| 00:44.33 | Arthas- | 34* |
| 00:44.34 | zifoon | in dataeditor |
| 00:44.37 | ThisIsSpoofed | meh |
| 00:44.38 | zifoon | not triggered |
| 00:44.45 | Iggyhopper | Rule 1 guys, rule 1 |
| 00:44.46 | Arthas- | 34 = there exists |
| 00:44.47 | peterpants | what's rule 34 |
| 00:44.52 | Arthas- | 35 = if it doesnt, there will be |
| 00:44.58 | Gralamin | zifoon: What do you want, like an orb that auto-feedbacks? |
| 00:45.01 | Arthas- | 34 = if it exists on the internet, there's porn of it |
| 00:45.03 | zifoon | yeah |
| 00:45.05 | ThisIsSpoofed | I've been asking this question several times |
| 00:45.05 | zifoon | pretty much |
| 00:45.05 | ThisIsSpoofed | so does anyone know how to set an upgrade to researched using the data editor? |
| 00:45.11 | zifoon | I know it's behavior related |
| 00:45.13 | ThisIsSpoofed | I got stims to be auto up |
| 00:45.16 | zifoon | but I can't find a way |
| 00:45.17 | ThisIsSpoofed | but not armor and weap |
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| 00:45.19 | Iggyhopper | auto up? |
| 00:45.24 | ThisIsSpoofed | upgradded |
| 00:45.25 | Iggyhopper | o |
| 00:45.41 | Arthas- | Iggyhopper im not breaking rule 1 or 2 for that matter :O |
| 00:45.43 | Arthas- | newfag |
| 00:45.47 | Gralamin | zifoon: I'm not sure yet, since I'm still playing around, but perhaps you can make it so that a Weapon has an ability mapped to it, which it uses as an auto-attack? I dunno. |
| 00:45.59 | ThisIsSpoofed | >.> |
| 00:46.05 | Arthas- | :p |
| 00:46.06 | ThisIsSpoofed | does no one know how? |
| 00:46.06 | zifoon | oh wait... concossive missles |
| 00:46.09 | Arthas- | <3 iggy |
| 00:46.10 | zifoon | I will look at this |
| 00:46.12 | zifoon | that |
| 00:46.13 | zifoon | thx |
| 00:46.26 | Gralamin | Glad to be of help |
| 00:46.31 | Arthas- | hmm, who was it who looked at the missiles? |
| 00:46.35 | Kylegar | ahahahahahahahaha |
| 00:46.36 | Arthas- | xml-wise that is |
| 00:46.42 | Kylegar | when my archon kills zerglings |
| 00:46.44 | Kylegar | it gets bigger |
| 00:46.49 | Spoofed | nice |
| 00:47.04 | Arthas- | so, anyone working on a war chess yet? =) |
| 00:47.18 | Spoofed | not I |
| 00:47.35 | Spoofed | Really wish i could find that one really good chess game |
| 00:47.38 | Spoofed | on sc1 |
| 00:47.52 | Hati | space defender |
| 00:47.54 | Hati | here |
| 00:47.56 | Spoofed | so does anyone know how to set an upgrade to researched using the data editor? |
| 00:47.59 | Inschato | I made a chess game on sc1 once, but not a good one :p |
| 00:48.05 | Spoofed | :p |
| 00:48.16 | Iggyhopper | I wonder if you can tell units to shift-order. Making unit move ona road really easy there. |
| 00:48.27 | Inschato | It didn't have any rule checking functions, it just sent units to a waiting pool if they got killed lol |
| 00:48.27 | davidcramer | im confused with this data editor |
| 00:48.30 | davidcramer | how do you remove things from a unit? |
| 00:48.34 | Spoofed | I'm just gonna keep asking tell someone asnwers |
| 00:48.36 | Hati | null them |
| 00:48.38 | Spoofed | till* |
| 00:48.39 | Spoofed | so does anyone know how to set an upgrade to researched using the data editor? |
| 00:48.50 | Iggyhopper | null them? |
| 00:48.54 | Hati | empty |
| 00:48.55 | Hati | nil |
| 00:48.55 | Gralamin | davidcramer: What do you want to remove? |
| 00:48.59 | liq3 | spoofed: 1. Why would you want to? 2. No. |
| 00:49.01 | Hati | call it what ever you want :x |
| 00:49.04 | Iggyhopper | yes, but how would you do that? |
| 00:49.10 | Kylegar | and now the attack radius gets bigger as the archon does |
| 00:49.11 | Hati | {} on arrays |
| 00:49.11 | davidcramer | Gralamin: an ability or a behavior or a sound, anything |
| 00:49.11 | Hati | 0 |
| 00:49.12 | Kylegar | yeaaaaa |
| 00:49.12 | Spoofed | I want to so I can have different levels of a unit |
| 00:49.15 | Iggyhopper | oh ok |
| 00:49.16 | Hati | or empty on numbers / strings |
| 00:49.17 | Iggyhopper | yeah |
| 00:49.20 | Iggyhopper | i get it |
| 00:49.20 | davidcramer | e.g. i need a custom builder unit, so i based it on the svn, but i want it to look/act different |
| 00:49.21 | Iggyhopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.29 | Spoofed | just look up in the disccus section on the forum |
| 00:49.33 | Iggyhopper | svn? |
| 00:49.35 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 00:49.36 | Iggyhopper | scv? |
| 00:49.38 | Tausken | Alright I figured out whats causing my issue of "unable to run map" but does anyone know how you change the map type from Campaign to like melee or something? I accidentally put my map under Campaign type when I setup the new map |
| 00:49.41 | Spoofed | and see what I'm trying to do |
| 00:49.47 | Arthas- | sixen drunk yet? |
| 00:49.54 | liq3 | spoofed: So you're going to create different uints, JUST so each one has a different nummber on their attack/armour? ;/ |
| 00:49.58 | Gralamin | david: Look at the Ability Card, the abilities functions, and actors. It will take a while to get used to this new editor. |
| 00:49.59 | Spoofed | no |
| 00:50.04 | liq3 | Then why? |
| 00:50.09 | Spoofed | I'm using upgrades so that it's easier to manage |
| 00:50.20 | Spoofed | cuase there'll be variouos units |
| 00:50.30 | Spoofed | and upgrades will make the process move alot quicker |
| 00:50.31 | liq3 | Why not just give them different stats? -_- |
| 00:50.37 | Sixen | lol |
| 00:50.38 | Spoofed | cause it'll take more time |
| 00:50.39 | Sixen | doing homework now -.- |
| 00:50.40 | Iggyhopper | If blizzard doesn't want to give money for not using new models, then they definitely need to give us a basic import and export format for things |
| 00:50.43 | Iggyhopper | like models |
| 00:50.46 | liq3 | Spoofed: Goodluck. |
| 00:50.50 | Spoofed | cause i'm completly revamping all the terrain units |
| 00:50.53 | liq3 | I'm not helping you in your crazy person quest. |
| 00:50.59 | Spoofed | >.> |
| 00:51.05 | Spoofed | I got stims to be auto up |
| 00:51.08 | Arthas- | Sixen ah |
| 00:51.14 | Arthas- | then party! |
| 00:51.16 | Spoofed | I just can't find how they set up upgrades for armor and weap |
| 00:51.27 | Arthas- | drink some tequila shots for me :p |
| 00:51.27 | Iggyhopper | Spoofed |
| 00:51.30 | Iggyhopper | are you spoofed? |
| 00:51.41 | Spoofed | maybe? |
| 00:51.44 | davidcramer | wheres this ability card at Gralamin ? |
| 00:51.46 | Iggyhopper | MMMMMMMMMM |
| 00:51.55 | Arthas- | wtf is that |
| 00:51.56 | Gralamin | david: Its under the unit in the data editor |
| 00:52.00 | Arthas- | marines, marauders, medivacs... ? |
| 00:52.04 | Gralamin | Its how they define actions that a unit can take |
| 00:52.06 | Sixen | :( |
| 00:52.06 | Arthas- | :O |
| 00:52.07 | zifoon | yeah I made a feedback orb that's sexy |
| 00:52.10 | tdelamay | I finished the terrain for my map! |
| 00:52.11 | Iggyhopper | ( |
| 00:52.15 | Iggyhopper | <:( |
| 00:52.16 | Gralamin | zifoon: So that worked then? Good to know. |
| 00:52.16 | Spoofed | gratz |
| 00:52.20 | davidcramer | ok well how do i edit it |
| 00:52.22 | tdelamay | Now I need to learn how to update models and triggers O.o |
| 00:52.24 | liq3 | Gralamin: davidcramer: It's called "command card" :P |
| 00:52.28 | davidcramer | hrm |
| 00:52.29 | zifoon | thx Gralamin for the idea |
| 00:52.36 | davidcramer | ahh i see that |
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| 00:52.43 | Gralamin | liq3: So sue me for not having it open at this moment :P |
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| 00:52.49 | Iggyhopper | You gusy know how to remove roads? i do |
| 00:52.51 | Static | Is there any way to change the number of times a weapon fires in a 'volley?' Like, a thor fires 4 javelin missiles, an interceptor fires two little beam thingies? |
| 00:52.51 | liq3 | :D |
| 00:52.58 | tdelamay | I still can't access battle net QQ |
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| 00:53.00 | Iggyhopper | Static yees |
| 00:53.06 | Iggyhopper | It relies on to "periods" |
| 00:53.07 | qwebirc51811 | hey guys |
| 00:53.20 | Static | I've found period, I thought period was just cooldown between volleys |
| 00:53.30 | Static | or individual attacks, as the case may be |
| 00:53.32 | qwebirc51811 | I got a quick question for all of you |
| 00:53.33 | supman199 | Hmm, I've been struggling with this. Can anyone tell me whats the required stuff to do so a custom unit can build custom buildings? The icon for it doesn't show up on the custom unit. |
| 00:53.35 | peterpants | how do i make a unit highlightable/nonhighlightable |
| 00:53.38 | Iggyhopper | general period - time between "bullets", and then a period for the time in between each individual bullet. |
| 00:53.44 | Kylegar | noooo |
| 00:53.48 | liq3 | http://www.interstellarmarines.com/media-section/videos/ |
| 00:53.48 | liq3 | :D |
| 00:53.50 | davidcramer | ugh i cant copy paste a command card? |
| 00:53.55 | Kylegar | You can't dynamically change the size of a region |
| 00:53.57 | Gralamin | supman199: You need to go edit the command card. |
| 00:54.01 | HeliosDoubleSix | hi, anyone know where the FOG settings are? |
| 00:54.07 | qwebirc51811 | can you play any of the maps you make? like can you host it on a custom game? |
| 00:54.13 | Kylegar | qwebirc36937 no |
| 00:54.19 | Kylegar | you can play them solo |
| 00:54.21 | Kylegar | but not on bnet |
| 00:54.22 | Tausken | not at the moment until the next patch |
| 00:54.32 | Gralamin | HeliosDoubleSix: I think Map properties or something. I forget where exactly since I don't have it open at this moment |
| 00:54.33 | qwebirc51811 | no one has figured out a way around this? |
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| 00:54.34 | supman199 | I did. |
| 00:54.58 | HeliosDoubleSix | how about changing the default camera view and say changing maximum zoom/rotate ammounts? |
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| 00:55.12 | qwebirc51811 | im gonna keep looking, but iw ouldnt doubt if you were able to actually make it, but requires some coding |
| 00:55.24 | Kylegar | qwebirc36937: unless you can emulate bnet |
| 00:55.26 | Kylegar | to use other maps |
| 00:55.31 | Hati | copy seems bugged too |
| 00:55.37 | Kylegar | also |
| 00:55.39 | Kylegar | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1940586/ZERGLINGZAP.SC2Map |
| 00:55.40 | Gralamin | HeliosDoubleSix: I'm not sure, you can probably do that by making a camera and using a trigger. |
| 00:55.44 | Kylegar | added in scaling |
| 00:55.52 | HeliosDoubleSix | hmmm, yah i cant find fog lol |
| 00:55.55 | Kylegar | kill more zerglings, you become gigantically more badass |
| 00:55.59 | Static | iggy: I take it the 'general period' is not in the weapon info, but the effect or something? There's only one 'period' for the thor AA attack |
| 00:56.09 | Kylegar | literally gigantically |
| 00:56.54 | supman199 | Can anyone tell me the required values/skills/resources(whatever it is) so that the button on the custom unit will appear. I've made my own button, ability, building, and linked it. |
| 00:57.22 | davidcramer | im confused |
| 00:57.26 | davidcramer | if i create a new building |
| 00:57.33 | davidcramer | how do I fit it under Units in a unit? |
| 00:57.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster Luthion (~55f68cb0@gateway/web/freenode/x-tdwejmkrlkdufbab) |
| 00:58.10 | Luthion | humm anyone atching mojache strea? |
| 00:58.13 | Luthion | stream* |
| 00:59.07 | Iggyhopper | liq3 does that marine video have sound? |
| 00:59.12 | Iggyhopper | i cant get sound |
| 00:59.18 | liq3 | the one i linked, yes. |
| 00:59.23 | Iggyhopper | i can place units in editor and get plop sound tho |
| 00:59.29 | Iggyhopper | maybe its mah firefox |
| 00:59.34 | liq3 | hrm? |
| 00:59.37 | liq3 | i'm very confused now. o.o |
| 00:59.58 | liq3 | what video? |
| 01:00.05 | inSync | What's the best "trigger" Action to "Spawn Units" (example; spawn 5 zerglings at Region 1) |
| 01:00.13 | Iggyhopper | um |
| 01:00.17 | Iggyhopper | marines in space or something |
| 01:00.19 | Hati | Create Unit |
| 01:00.23 | Iggyhopper | http://www.interstellarmarines.com/media-section/videos/ |
| 01:00.26 | liq3 | Create Unite with Default facing. |
| 01:00.31 | BossMonkey | New Game Type inc: Zerg Limbo. |
| 01:00.39 | liq3 | Iggyhopper: yeh, they have sound. o.o |
| 01:00.41 | inSync | liq3: Thank You. |
| 01:01.01 | liq3 | Welcome. |
| 01:01.06 | Iggyhopper | m |
| 01:01.11 | Jcup | Anyone know if u can set a default/starting value to hero attributes? |
| 01:01.24 | Hati | Unit - Create 5 Zergling for player 1 at (Random point in (Entire map) between 0.0 and 0.0 distance from enemy units of player 1 (prefer points within 0.0 of an enemy building)) facing (Position of (Triggering unit)) (No Options) |
| 01:01.25 | Hati | ie |
| 01:01.42 | liq3 | O.o\ |
| 01:01.49 | Hati | epic ins't it :o ? |
| 01:01.54 | Iggyhopper | might have to restart computer |
| 01:02.06 | liq3 | Jcup: try setting the level 0 values. |
| 01:02.10 | Iggyhopper | i could listen to livestream earlier this morning |
| 01:02.40 | AngryAmish | so whats the difference between a"pick each unit in unit group" and "for each unit in unit group"? Does the "pick each unit in a unit group" all happen at the same time? |
| 01:02.52 | inSync | liq3: or Hati: In the Action "Create 1 unit with random facing" can you change it from "Point" to "Region" spawned at? |
| 01:02.59 | Iggyhopper | I HAZ AVATAR AND UUUU DOOONT |
| 01:03.02 | liq3 | yeh |
| 01:03.02 | Iggyhopper | LOLOLOL |
| 01:03.04 | AngryAmish | can i use picked unit in "for each unit in a unit group"? |
| 01:03.10 | davidcramer | if a model previews as the blue globe, what does that mean |
| 01:03.13 | inSync | liq3: How is this done. |
| 01:03.15 | Iggyhopper | Convert point to region 0,0,0,0 |
| 01:03.19 | liq3 | hang on, let me check it lol. |
| 01:03.22 | Hati | No valid model david |
| 01:03.30 | Hati | or simply has none |
| 01:03.42 | davidcramer | k |
| 01:04.26 | davidcramer | half the models arent here yet :( |
| 01:04.36 | liq3 | inSync: oks eems to want only points... lol. |
| 01:04.40 | peterpants | how do you get a player's number in trgiggers ? :/ |
| 01:04.43 | davidcramer | anyone aware of anything that resembles a pile of wood? |
| 01:04.48 | liq3 | inSync: Actuallyyeh you just gotta create a new point. :( |
| 01:04.50 | Gralamin | davidcramer: Probably because of spoilers. |
| 01:04.50 | inSync | liq3: yeah i know, its lame -.-' |
| 01:04.55 | inSync | liq3: thanks anywho. |
| 01:06.04 | peterpants | no way to get a player's index in the triggers to an integer? |
| 01:06.14 | HyBReD | hey did anyone grab my SC2 TechDemoV1, my maps are all fucked and i have no idea how they got that way |
| 01:06.20 | HyBReD | the one without the comments |
| 01:06.27 | warturtle | I have it I think |
| 01:06.37 | warturtle | http://www.pgn-guild.com/random/TechDemoV1.SC2Map |
| 01:06.39 | peterpants | ah nvm i think i can figure it out |
| 01:06.45 | HyBReD | yes i know th elink |
| 01:06.52 | peterpants | picked player returns an integer i suppose? |
| 01:06.52 | HyBReD | ive overwritten that one |
| 01:06.54 | HyBReD | with the shitty |
| 01:07.03 | HyBReD | i wa swondering if someone has it on their HD they could send my way |
| 01:07.10 | warturtle | kk |
| 01:07.14 | warturtle | ill upload it |
| 01:07.18 | Inschato | Here, Not sure if it's the version you're looking for <_< |
| 01:07.20 | HyBReD | awesome thx |
| 01:07.29 | peterpants | but it's under player group |
| 01:07.31 | HyBReD | if its called TechDemoV1 and doesnt have comments |
| 01:07.31 | inSync | Iggyhopper: How do i convert a "Region" to a "Point". |
| 01:07.32 | HyBReD | then its the one |
| 01:07.33 | Inschato | Bah, DCC bugz |
| 01:07.35 | peterpants | just fyi if anyone runs into that |
| 01:08.15 | peterpants | inSync: use a function center or random point in "region" |
| 01:08.25 | warturtle | Hey guy how can I view the xml that the data module represents? |
| 01:08.30 | HyBReD | sendspace.com if you dont have somewhere to upload |
| 01:08.31 | warturtle | in the raw form? |
| 01:08.49 | Cerebral | SC2 just went down |
| 01:08.52 | BossMonkey | Mojache: nope |
| 01:08.54 | warturtle | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6BC2BWH |
| 01:09.06 | HyBReD | thx alot |
| 01:09.09 | warturtle | np |
| 01:09.11 | HyBReD | hopefully its not bugged to all hell too |
| 01:09.19 | HyBReD | all my camera actions are basically melted |
| 01:09.24 | HyBReD | in the version i have |
| 01:09.27 | warturtle | It was working for me when i played with it |
| 01:09.34 | HyBReD | cool. |
| 01:09.34 | warturtle | omnislash was pretty cool with the camera |
| 01:09.49 | HyBReD | yea its all fucked up on my version |
| 01:11.49 | Inschato | I think my computer just diiiied |
| 01:11.57 | McLovin|Truhan | mojache: HOLY SHIT MAN |
| 01:12.05 | HyBReD | can you download this version and see if Omnislash looks retarded to you? |
| 01:12.05 | HyBReD | http://www.pgn-guild.com/random/TechDemoV1.SC2Map |
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| 01:12.24 | McLovin|Truhan | mojache: just make archons invulnerable (if you know how) |
| 01:12.39 | Kylegar | ahahaha |
| 01:12.45 | Kylegar | zergling zap is getting better and better |
| 01:13.01 | Teal | what's the feature of zergling zap? |
| 01:13.12 | Inschato | You kill lots of zerglings |
| 01:13.12 | SevenSeven | How do I add an actor using the data editor? |
| 01:13.20 | McLovin|Truhan | mojache: byes |
| 01:13.20 | Kylegar | awesome 3rd person controlls |
| 01:13.28 | Kylegar | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1940586/ZERGLINGZAP.SC2Map |
| 01:13.29 | Teal | wasd and mouselook? |
| 01:13.33 | Kylegar | yap |
| 01:13.36 | Teal | mm'k |
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| 01:13.44 | Kylegar | but, I garuntee you, best you will see |
| 01:13.44 | Gralamin | SevenSeven: You make a new one, and way up in the top right of the Data editor you will see a "UnitName" Variable or something |
| 01:13.46 | Teal | lemme know when/if you get a working multiplayer version of it |
| 01:13.51 | Gralamin | Set that to the unit you want it to be an actor for |
| 01:14.00 | Teal | i want to do an AoS with 3rd person perspective for players |
| 01:14.08 | Ingela | Arthas-, z0mg patch time |
| 01:14.19 | Arthas- | FIONALLY |
| 01:14.37 | Ingela | what do you mean "finally" |
| 01:14.40 | Teal | actually, i have a few ideas, one of which i want to actually do, and it might be easier now with being able to add behaviours... |
| 01:14.41 | Ingela | i mean it's like 2 days late only |
| 01:14.54 | zifoon | wait a sec, for leveling up hero skills, we have to repeatly enable and disable behavior/abilities? T_T |
| 01:15.18 | SevenSeven | @Gralamin: thanks, but I still don't see it |
| 01:15.23 | HyBReD | Warning: Orphaned trigger parameter removed from Function Call 'Comparison' (Parameter Value, 13073C2E, Lib: 0) |
| 01:15.25 | HyBReD | wtf? |
| 01:15.36 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/next/ |
| 01:15.42 | Arthas- | Ingela ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 01:15.45 | Arthas- | time to kick some ass! |
| 01:15.56 | Ingela | and chew gum |
| 01:16.00 | Ingela | but i'm all out of gum!!!!! LOLOL |
| 01:16.04 | HyBReD | BuBBLe |
| 01:16.07 | HyBReD | Gum |
| 01:16.08 | liq3 | Balls of steel. |
| 01:16.11 | vjeux | fuck ... I always forget to update the title of the news :( |
| 01:16.25 | Ingela | chew tiers |
| 01:16.26 | Ingela | om nom nom |
| 01:16.42 | liq3 | http://www.instantsfun.es/ballsofsteel |
| 01:17.04 | SevenSeven | How do I add an actor using the data editor? |
| 01:17.25 | vjeux | Right click, Add Actor :p |
| 01:17.32 | Ingela | no info of how much i download, no procentage, you can't enable disable peer-to-peer network, sc2 downloader is shit. |
| 01:17.44 | vjeux | Ingela: look in your sc2folder |
| 01:17.52 | davidcramer | How do you modify what the build ability lets you build? |
| 01:17.55 | davidcramer | cant find the list of units :/ |
| 01:18.01 | vjeux | you in the Updates folder you will see the progression |
| 01:18.03 | davidcramer | oh its under Info + maybe? |
| 01:18.04 | liq3 | Ingela: actually collectively it's the fastest downloader there is. |
| 01:18.11 | liq3 | It's just individuals don't dl quickly. |
| 01:18.13 | Barter | anyone tried using the AI Wave stuff to make waves? |
| 01:18.13 | davidcramer | or not im not sure now |
| 01:18.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster Spoofed (~624623be@gateway/web/freenode/x-jcclxlvfcdtzyxie) |
| 01:18.17 | Spoofed | Hey |
| 01:18.25 | SevenSeven | ooooooooooh found it haha |
| 01:18.27 | Spoofed | Anyone know how to link a modle to a unit? |
| 01:18.27 | vjeux | Barter: what kind of wave do you want to do? |
| 01:18.28 | SevenSeven | thanks gralamin |
| 01:18.37 | Barter | what do you mean? |
| 01:18.44 | vjeux | why do you need wave? |
| 01:18.47 | SevenSeven | @vjeux: I was just looking in the wrong section lol |
| 01:18.51 | davidcramer | ah figured it out |
| 01:19.00 | Barter | a defense map |
| 01:19.01 | Spoofed | When I copied a new unit |
| 01:19.02 | vjeux | just send an order to a group of unit? |
| 01:19.05 | Spoofed | it lost all the model links |
| 01:19.05 | Ingela | yeah vjeux that's not the point heh the point is that it's not telling me anything naturally |
| 01:19.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster fluKeZA (~matthew@41-133-33-165.dsl.mweb.co.za) |
| 01:19.09 | Spoofed | so now I can't place it |
| 01:19.14 | Spoofed | so anyone know how I can fix that? |
| 01:19.18 | Barter | ah yeah I guess ill just do that |
| 01:19.28 | Barter | just wanted to know how that one worked |
| 01:19.50 | SevenSeven | Great |
| 01:19.50 | Ingela | liq3, i can understand if my internet is slow or so, the point is that it's not giving me info and options |
| 01:19.55 | Ingela | even wow downloader had that =( |
| 01:19.58 | supman199 | I gave my custom unit a custom build ability and it doesn't show up at all, however if i give it default scv build ability.. it show.. |
| 01:19.59 | SevenSeven | How do I add an actor to a unit using the data editor? :| |
| 01:20.02 | supman199 | Any help? |
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| 01:20.19 | Gralamin | supman199: Have you added your custom ability to the Command Card? |
| 01:20.20 | liq3 | SevenSeven: select the unit as the parent of that actor, in the actor thingy. |
| 01:20.23 | supman199 | Yes I have. |
| 01:20.25 | liq3 | Top of right coloumn. |
| 01:20.39 | supman199 | Still nothing. Any other requirements? |
| 01:20.42 | Arthas- | and you created a button for it? |
| 01:20.46 | supman199 | yes |
| 01:21.04 | Arthas- | then i dunno :D |
| 01:21.05 | SevenSeven | oh haha nvm |
| 01:21.07 | SevenSeven | thanks liq3 |
| 01:21.15 | SevenSeven | everytime I ask a question, I find it 3 seconds later |
| 01:21.16 | SevenSeven | :| |
| 01:21.22 | liq3 | lol. |
| 01:21.22 | Arthas- | prolly a mistake somewhere |
| 01:21.40 | qwebirc11019 | Hey guys, where can I find Mojache's shooter map? (without the lightning gun?) |
| 01:21.41 | Arthas- | Players will now be able to begin creating trigger maps in preparation for map publishing which will be made available in an upcoming beta patch. |
| 01:22.00 | Gralamin | SevenSeven: Thats alright. It can be nice to ask questions to help ease frusturation. |
| 01:22.09 | vjeux | www.wittywizard.com/starcraft |
| 01:22.16 | vjeux | qwebirc11019: |
| 01:22.21 | qwebirc11019 | great thx |
| 01:22.27 | qwebirc11019 | :) |
| 01:22.31 | vjeux | Arthas-: link? |
| 01:22.36 | Arthas- | vjeux |
| 01:22.39 | Arthas- | thats from the patch notes |
| 01:22.42 | Spoofed | can anyone help? |
| 01:22.45 | inSync | Ive been searching for a simple "move" trigger. so i can move a bunch of units from Region 1 to Region 2. you think i can find it... |
| 01:22.46 | vjeux | new patch? |
| 01:22.50 | Arthas- | the niner |
| 01:22.53 | Barter | new for eu |
| 01:22.54 | vjeux | oh I see |
| 01:23.01 | Ingela | nothing about the zergling though |
| 01:23.03 | Spoofed | how do I link models to a unit? |
| 01:23.06 | vjeux | fuck sometime I should read these patch notes :p |
| 01:23.07 | Ingela | wonder if that's just fixed |
| 01:23.08 | supman199 | inSync: you need to press the link ( before the order |
| 01:23.16 | Barter | Spoofed: with an actor |
| 01:23.18 | Arthas- | http://www.starcraft2.com/launcher/patch-notes.htm |
| 01:23.20 | Arthas- | sauce |
| 01:23.23 | Arthas- | as always |
| 01:23.24 | Spoofed | how would I do that? |
| 01:23.25 | Arthas- | anyway |
| 01:23.31 | inSync | supman199: What do you mean? press the link? |
| 01:23.34 | Arthas- | i dont know if that was in original patchnote |
| 01:23.38 | SevenSeven | wow |
| 01:23.44 | SevenSeven | creating a new unit is a pain in the ass |
| 01:23.49 | Ingela | Arthas-, false news spreader! |
| 01:23.50 | Spoofed | I looked around, but I can't figure out how to link them together |
| 01:23.52 | Arthas- | SevenSeven hahaha |
| 01:23.56 | Arthas- | it is |
| 01:23.59 | SevenSeven | damn |
| 01:24.04 | supman199 | inSync: highlight the trigger and look at the bottom part and you'll see a character "(" and you can click it |
| 01:24.10 | SevenSeven | I was hoping someone would call me a newfag and show me a better way to make one |
| 01:24.11 | Arthas- | i would recommend using the duplicate unit |
| 01:24.11 | SevenSeven | :( |
| 01:24.19 | Barter | Spoofed: create an actor with the model you want and select it, then on the Token on the top-right |
| 01:24.24 | Arthas- | say on the zealot |
| 01:24.29 | Arthas- | if you are only using GE thats fine |
| 01:24.30 | Barter | change it to the unit you want it linked to |
| 01:24.35 | SevenSeven | Can I just use copy paste? |
| 01:24.50 | Arthas- | seven, duplicate, then mark all the fields it shows |
| 01:24.54 | Kylegar | new version of ZERGLING ZAP |
| 01:24.54 | Kylegar | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1940586/ZERGLINGZAP.SC2Map |
| 01:24.58 | SevenSeven | mmk |
| 01:24.59 | Spoofed | oh thanks |
| 01:25.00 | SevenSeven | thanks arthas |
| 01:25.03 | Arthas- | then it will clone actor, weapon, soud |
| 01:25.04 | Kylegar | the best 3rd person controls |
| 01:25.05 | Arthas- | sound* |
| 01:25.06 | Spoofed | Guess I gotta make copies then |
| 01:25.08 | Skizot | ugh |
| 01:25.09 | Skizot | back |
| 01:25.10 | SevenSeven | lol |
| 01:25.15 | McLovin|Truhan | how does i changed max level for heroes? |
| 01:25.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Arbalann (Arbalann@cpe-72-179-134-17.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 01:25.25 | inSync | supman199; You've totally lost me... I create a new Trigger, then > ? |
| 01:25.42 | Barter | yeah for an actor only for the models its faster to just duplicate |
| 01:26.26 | supman199 | inSync: make an action that issue an order, and then on the bottom of the window where you can click on those links to change values - you click on "(" before Ability or something. |
| 01:26.56 | *** part/#sc2mapster Acww (~Stiffman1@S01060018f859f079.tb.shawcable.net) |
| 01:27.09 | Inschato | 210 kills then I died Kylegar >:O |
| 01:27.16 | SevenSeven | arrrrrrrrrgh |
| 01:27.23 | SevenSeven | Why can't it be as easy as the WC3 editor lol |
| 01:27.42 | warturtle | tip: when viewing the data module, turn on every single view option |
| 01:27.53 | warturtle | it gives you better tree structure |
| 01:28.14 | Dustin | Hmm |
| 01:28.18 | warturtle | aka you click on SCV, it will show a tree in the bottom left with abilities/actors/etc |
| 01:28.20 | Ingela | booo save the trees |
| 01:28.21 | Dustin | Where's the aquasition range |
| 01:28.25 | vjeux | if you guys make the game crash in some way, please make a forum post about it, blizzard is actively looking forward fixing those bugs |
| 01:28.36 | BossMonkey | Funny stuff: make a thor teleport to nearest unit....he's going all over the place. |
| 01:28.39 | Hati | so not just push send :x ? |
| 01:28.40 | Arthas- | vjeux you are eu |
| 01:28.40 | warturtle | really? |
| 01:28.42 | Iggyhopper | I HAVE OTS OF ROADS LOL |
| 01:28.43 | Arthas- | you know thats bullshit :p |
| 01:28.46 | Iggyhopper | LIEK |
| 01:28.48 | warturtle | that's a lot of posts |
| 01:28.57 | Iggyhopper | YOUR MOM DOESNT EVEN HAVE THIS MANY ROADS |
| 01:29.09 | McLovin|Truhan | giggity |
| 01:29.09 | Labmonkey2 | hey |
| 01:29.13 | Labmonkey2 | how's the update going? |
| 01:29.23 | Arthas- | Labmonkey2 its online |
| 01:29.25 | Arthas- | eu that is |
| 01:29.30 | Arthas- | a few mins ago |
| 01:29.37 | Iggyhopper | This little map I'm working on is totllay retarde.d |
| 01:29.37 | *** topic/#sc2mapster by vjeux -> http://sc2mapster.com/ | Report Triggers that makes the game crash on the forums! | Players spreadsheet: http://averageurl.com/sc2/ |
| 01:29.39 | Labmonkey2 | ah |
| 01:29.40 | Labmonkey2 | us |
| 01:29.44 | Tehwildcard | Can anyone help me find Terrain Comparison for a condition? |
| 01:29.47 | Labmonkey2 | I have the sc launch screen thing |
| 01:29.50 | Inschato | Urgh, does this map endlessly spawn zerglings without bothering to check how many are already there? Really slowed down my computer >_> |
| 01:29.56 | *** topic/#sc2mapster by vjeux -> http://sc2mapster.com/ | Report Triggers/Data that makes the game crash on the forums! | Players spreadsheet: http://averageurl.com/sc2/ |
| 01:29.57 | Iggyhopper | Tewildcard |
| 01:29.59 | Arthas- | holy shit the patch is slow |
| 01:30.00 | Dustin | Damnit |
| 01:30.02 | Iggyhopper | search for it |
| 01:30.13 | Dustin | I cant fucking acuisition range |
| 01:30.16 | qwebirc51811 | I figured it out guys, i figured out how to spawn CC/Hatch/Nexus properly for the fastest maps!!! :D |
| 01:30.16 | Tehwildcard | It's not called 'Terrain Comparison' |
| 01:30.21 | Iggyhopper | ok ill look it up |
| 01:30.24 | Iggyhopper | and paste it here |
| 01:30.34 | peterpants | has anyone made any models yet |
| 01:30.40 | peterpants | or imported wc3 models |
| 01:30.57 | Zawada | check out my map :) http://img517.imageshack.us/i/zawadamap.png/ |
| 01:31.13 | Hati | ctrl+d switches trigger window to advanced mode |
| 01:31.17 | Zawada | and yes, the spawn points work properly :D |
| 01:31.18 | peterpants | magic the gathering? |
| 01:31.24 | Hati | if someone doesn't know yet |
| 01:32.05 | Ingela | Zawada, did you use any tools to make perfect symmetry |
| 01:32.06 | inSync | why when i "issue a order" to a unit, there is no "move' in the ability commad ( am i in the right spot) |
| 01:32.14 | Zawada | no i didnt |
| 01:32.20 | Ingela | or is it just you being imba and just did it perfect? |
| 01:32.22 | Zawada | is there a way to do it? |
| 01:32.32 | Zawada | i just did it by ratio |
| 01:32.36 | Ingela | no, that's what i want to think in my head that there should be |
| 01:32.37 | Zawada | my brush was a 4.0 |
| 01:32.39 | Inschato | You can copy/paste terrain and then flip it |
| 01:32.46 | Zawada | and i jsut did exactly 2 brushes |
| 01:32.49 | Zawada | per entrance |
| 01:32.49 | warturtle | did someone sya magic the gatherin |
| 01:32.53 | warturtle | lol |
| 01:32.57 | Arthas- | d&d! |
| 01:33.01 | warturtle | anyone working on porting sc1 mtg to sc2? |
| 01:33.04 | Arthas- | no card games |
| 01:33.04 | Zawada | and then the walls don't really matter that much |
| 01:33.05 | warturtle | I would help with that |
| 01:33.53 | Arthas- | someone should convert thin ice and valley of re |
| 01:34.03 | Zawada | you can tell in my picture.. that the top middle spawn is slightly larger than the bottom middle |
| 01:34.08 | Arthas- | why yes, I play terran how did you know |
| 01:34.10 | McLovin|Truhan | kylegar |
| 01:34.13 | Zawada | If i can find a way to make perfect symetry through a tool |
| 01:34.15 | Zawada | i'll let everyone know |
| 01:34.16 | Dustin | DAMNIT |
| 01:34.22 | Dustin | where the fuck is acquisition range |
| 01:34.23 | McLovin|Truhan | zerg zap is some fun shit |
| 01:34.38 | Arthas- | Dustin for items? |
| 01:34.45 | Arthas- | or for something entirly else |
| 01:34.57 | Dustin | No |
| 01:35.01 | Dustin | for a baneling |
| 01:35.05 | Dustin | I have a baneling as a mossle |
| 01:35.13 | liq3 | Woot, it works. :] |
| 01:35.15 | Dustin | and I want him to only blow up if a unti is rightn ext to him |
| 01:35.18 | Inschato | I think it's in the weapon, not the unit, Dustin |
| 01:35.19 | liq3 | Converting unit kill score to minerals ftw. |
| 01:35.34 | Arthas- | ah |
| 01:35.39 | peterpants | i shall try this zerglign zap |
| 01:35.52 | Cilution | link zerg zap? |
| 01:35.55 | Dustin | Hmmm |
| 01:36.31 | Arthas- | "Your computer appears to be behind a firewall" |
| 01:36.33 | Arthas- | no fucking shit |
| 01:36.40 | Arthas- | what port does blizz dload use? |
| 01:36.41 | Labmonkey2 | lol |
| 01:36.42 | Labmonkey2 | arthas |
| 01:36.43 | Labmonkey2 | noob |
| 01:36.44 | Labmonkey2 | :P |
| 01:36.48 | Arthas- | well |
| 01:36.48 | warturtle | there is a trigger to get unit kill count? |
| 01:36.49 | Labmonkey2 | firewalls are for noobs |
| 01:36.53 | Labmonkey2 | and smart people |
| 01:37.05 | Arthas- | i have three! |
| 01:37.12 | Arthas- | err |
| 01:37.15 | Inschato | I think I may have just frozen my editor |
| 01:37.16 | Arthas- | no i dont |
| 01:37.18 | Dustin | Think i found it! |
| 01:37.21 | vjeux | warturtle: you have an event. Unit dies |
| 01:37.21 | Inschato | By stacking 1000 minerals on eachother |
| 01:37.30 | vjeux | just add +1 everytime it's being fired |
| 01:37.42 | warturtle | not player specific though |
| 01:37.42 | vjeux | Arthas-: it's normal |
| 01:37.58 | vjeux | just look inside your SC2/Updates folder |
| 01:38.05 | vjeux | and you will see the files downloading |
| 01:38.17 | warturtle | you could make it player specific by using the inbuilt score and giving +1 score for each unit killed |
| 01:38.22 | Bifuu | im home |
| 01:38.22 | warturtle | lots of data editing though |
| 01:38.36 | vjeux | ok, going to sleep |
| 01:38.39 | vjeux | night everyone :) |
| 01:38.42 | Arthas- | vjeux I know |
| 01:38.44 | Bifuu | later |
| 01:38.46 | vjeux | and report the bugs you find! |
| 01:38.50 | Arthas- | but connecting to peers is crap |
| 01:38.54 | warturtle | nothx :P |
| 01:38.55 | vjeux | blizzard is reading us :) |
| 01:38.59 | warturtle | bug reporting takes forever |
| 01:39.02 | warturtle | and is always a pain |
| 01:39.03 | Arthas- | vjeux lies |
| 01:39.04 | McLovin|Truhan | shit |
| 01:39.07 | Ingela | lies |
| 01:39.07 | McLovin|Truhan | really vjeux? |
| 01:39.09 | Arthas- | then they would add us as fansite |
| 01:39.09 | Ingela | they don't read EU |
| 01:39.10 | vjeux | yes |
| 01:39.13 | warturtle | my game is still bugged from a bug I submitted first day |
| 01:39.17 | McLovin|Truhan | THEY'RE WATCHING ME PEE |
| 01:39.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Yllodra (~kruindok@90-231-210-101-no124.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 01:39.24 | Arthas- | vjeux keeps access logs under constant watch |
| 01:39.28 | Arthas- | who owns this ip |
| 01:39.30 | McLovin|Truhan | O.O |
| 01:39.31 | vjeux | lol |
| 01:39.32 | Arthas- | nah, some dirty swede |
| 01:39.33 | warturtle | I get short freezes all the time when I play |
| 01:39.34 | Arthas- | AHA |
| 01:39.36 | Arthas- | BLIZZARD! |
| 01:39.36 | Inschato | warturtle, it's probably a problem with your system then <_< |
| 01:39.40 | warturtle | no |
| 01:39.44 | Arthas- | they prolly have someone in here lurking too! |
| 01:39.47 | Ingela | blizzard should irc |
| 01:39.48 | warturtle | I'ts semi widespread |
| 01:39.57 | warturtle | and has been discussed |
| 01:40.03 | warturtle | its just not a big enough issue that people care |
| 01:40.07 | Ingela | liek "hai i r blizz obey me puppets" |
| 01:40.09 | Iggyhopper | Tehwildcard |
| 01:40.11 | Iggyhopper | Tehwildcard |
| 01:40.11 | warturtle | you can still play it just lags the other person every now and then |
| 01:40.13 | Iggyhopper | Tehwildcard |
| 01:40.28 | Iggyhopper | @All |
| 01:40.32 | warturtle | they thought it was an overheating problem |
| 01:40.33 | Ingela | Tehwildcard, i think Iggyhopper wants something |
| 01:40.36 | Hati | hmm |
| 01:40.38 | Hati | mmmmmmmmm |
| 01:40.38 | warturtle | when its something with sound |
| 01:40.41 | vjeux | anyway, if you want to make the editor better make bug reports / suggestions, you will be read (that's better than nothing :P) |
| 01:40.42 | Hati | eu server down? |
| 01:40.45 | Iggyhopper | You can't use "is terrain this, or that" condition, terrain is now alpha |
| 01:40.57 | vjeux | now going to sleep, 3.40 fucking am |
| 01:40.59 | Iggyhopper | terrain is not tiles anymore |
| 01:41.03 | warturtle | I doubt that |
| 01:41.04 | warturtle | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.10 | peterpants | zergling zap = good |
| 01:41.17 | warturtle | they didnt even bother with a decent document on it |
| 01:41.25 | warturtle | which isn't unique but seriously |
| 01:41.30 | vjeux | Terrain = 8 tiles, each one with an alpha transparency |
| 01:41.35 | aviru | so many undocumented changes in the patch too |
| 01:41.40 | aviru | Anyone know if the hotfix is up yet? |
| 01:41.40 | SevenSeven | dude what the hell |
| 01:41.46 | Iggyhopper | I would use height at point != normal height : killl unit |
| 01:41.47 | Hati | gn8 |
| 01:41.48 | SevenSeven | duplicate has to be the most confusing shit ever |
| 01:41.59 | SevenSeven | when I change one units name |
| 01:42.00 | warturtle | they could have at least given us some example maps |
| 01:42.03 | SevenSeven | it creates another unit |
| 01:42.06 | SevenSeven | then renames the original |
| 01:42.07 | warturtle | it's no work on their part |
| 01:42.10 | Zawada | ingela |
| 01:42.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster GardenOfAiur (~info@S0106002191f75cdc.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 01:42.13 | Ingela | beta forums is so fun though, when you report bugs or thinks stuff should be changed you always get 50% of the people going "DUDE IT'S BETA WTF YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY ONLY PLAYING IT" |
| 01:42.13 | warturtle | blizz is really lame |
| 01:42.17 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/steak-racing/. Steak Racing. irushu (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 01:42.23 | SevenSeven | Anyone want to teach me how to use duplicate? |
| 01:42.24 | SevenSeven | lol |
| 01:42.29 | Zawada | ingela |
| 01:42.32 | Ingela | yes? |
| 01:42.32 | GardenOfAiur | whats up with the bnet reset? |
| 01:42.36 | Zawada | the closest you can get to perfect symmetry |
| 01:42.37 | Iggyhopper | Duplicate |
| 01:42.44 | Zawada | is by turning on small grids |
| 01:42.48 | Iggyhopper | unchecked ones are linked to the unit |
| 01:42.51 | aviru | @Garden, they're fixing the 6pool 12ling rush |
| 01:42.53 | Iggyhopper | checked ones are duplicated |
| 01:43.00 | Iggyhopper | check all = true new unit |
| 01:43.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster ckknight (~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 01:43.10 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 01:43.11 | liq3 | aviru: wut? |
| 01:43.11 | Iggyhopper | well, true duplication |
| 01:43.11 | Zawada | view>showgrid>small |
| 01:43.20 | Ingela | i shall try thanks Zawada |
| 01:43.21 | Zawada | and then you can do exact symmetry |
| 01:43.29 | Inschato | or just press g twice |
| 01:43.32 | aviru | They're fixing the bug that let you cancel eggs and turn them back into larva |
| 01:43.32 | Zawada | ^ |
| 01:43.43 | Labmonkey2 | anybody know if there is anything else |
| 01:43.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (~52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/x-rwszydslxcmvkemz) |
| 01:43.44 | vjeux | http://img443.imageshack.us/i/tmav10.jpg/ |
| 01:43.45 | Labmonkey2 | in the patch |
| 01:43.56 | aviru | people were rushing with 10 lings in 1min50sec, or 12 in a little over 2 mins, completely broke the game |
| 01:44.01 | aviru | so they're patching again |
| 01:44.13 | Iggyhopper | vje |
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| 01:44.16 | Iggyhopper | vju |
| 01:44.16 | davidcramer | ok damnit |
| 01:44.21 | davidcramer | My command card is only showing 2 of the commands |
| 01:44.23 | Iggyhopper | wtf |
| 01:44.25 | supman199 | OK I'm GETTING ANNOYED. I just used default SCV and changed the default buildings to ONE CUSTOM Building and NOW it disappear, any tips?! |
| 01:44.33 | SevenSeven | no I mean like |
| 01:44.34 | davidcramer | what happened to the rest :( |
| 01:44.34 | Iggyhopper | david make sure the unit also has the abilites |
| 01:44.48 | davidcramer | all its showing is stop and attack |
| 01:44.50 | SevenSeven | I duplicate the ultralisk, and it changes the original's name to ultralisk copy copy copy |
| 01:44.52 | davidcramer | hrm |
| 01:44.55 | warturtle | supman check all the nested shit and buttons |
| 01:45.03 | warturtle | make sure you enabled them and have them all filled in |
| 01:45.08 | warturtle | :) |
| 01:45.09 | Ingela | Zawada, that helps a lot yeah thanks |
| 01:45.11 | supman199 | what nested? |
| 01:45.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (skizot@61-185.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 01:45.49 | warturtle | well you changed build SCV ability right |
| 01:45.56 | Ingela | no bnet yet though for eu |
| 01:45.57 | Ingela | is us up? |
| 01:46.01 | warturtle | and made sure to change the command card |
| 01:46.03 | supman199 | I edited info + to just one unit |
| 01:46.08 | davidcramer | one of them is build Iggyhopper |
| 01:46.16 | supman199 | using the default scv ability |
| 01:46.31 | warturtle | you probably missed some part |
| 01:46.35 | Arthas- | 55% on my file :z |
| 01:46.36 | supman199 | like what? |
| 01:46.45 | warturtle | what exactly did you change? |
| 01:46.49 | supman199 | I have no idea. I mean, my custom building is working properly on the edit |
| 01:46.50 | Dustin | :D |
| 01:46.52 | Dustin | FUCK YA |
| 01:46.55 | Zawada | no prob ingela :D |
| 01:46.58 | Iggyhopper | oh is it set to a subcommn? |
| 01:46.58 | supman199 | Only Info + on the scv build ability |
| 01:47.02 | Dustin | Now to do WASD movement |
| 01:47.02 | Iggyhopper | subcmd? |
| 01:47.11 | warturtle | you need to do it in 2 places on dota |
| 01:47.12 | warturtle | data |
| 01:47.20 | warturtle | the SCV and the ability "scv build" |
| 01:47.23 | warturtle | both have to be changed |
| 01:47.26 | Iggyhopper | dota |
| 01:47.27 | Iggyhopper | wtf |
| 01:47.36 | supman199 | well what has to be changed for those tow? |
| 01:47.36 | supman199 | two |
| 01:47.48 | warturtle | the command card |
| 01:47.51 | warturtle | on SCV |
| 01:48.04 | warturtle | and the build ability, needs to eb changed to be able to build the custom bldg |
| 01:48.28 | Iggyhopper | i want to know what vjeuz is workiong on |
| 01:48.29 | supman199 | Ok, I'm using everything default for SCV, however for the ability, I only changed it so it will only build the custom building.. |
| 01:48.33 | Iggyhopper | or wtf that screenshot was |
| 01:48.51 | Inschato | Looked liked some sort of nexus defence game :p |
| 01:48.57 | Iggyhopper | :P |
| 01:49.06 | Iggyhopper | ./jellus |
| 01:49.33 | warturtle | listen you have to change the SCV, and the TerranBuild (SCV - Build (SCV)) |
| 01:49.40 | warturtle | one is in units and the other is in ability |
| 01:50.19 | warturtle | on the SCV you add a button that executes the ability to build the custom thing |
| 01:50.48 | warturtle | and on the ability, you also add a new build "order" that creates the new structure |
| 01:52.29 | Bifuu | anything interesting happen in that last 5 hours? |
| 01:52.31 | Sixen | oh jesus.. |
| 01:52.39 | Sixen | Vjeux doesn't have any characters on his account |
| 01:52.42 | Sixen | andI don't have en EU client |
| 01:53.01 | Bifuu | thast not interesting |
| 01:54.02 | Skizot | so anyone try out my map? |
| 01:54.58 | peterpants | what was it |
| 01:55.12 | warturtle | I wish I could understand movers/projectiles better.. I guess they built in just move towards the target |
| 01:55.49 | ScytheBlade1 | so has anyone figured out if it is possible to display primary building restrictions with respect to distance from resources? |
| 01:55.49 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mqJvnuiUo O_o |
| 01:55.49 | supman199 | Bah, no luck still, warturtle.. |
| 01:55.50 | Arthas- | AWESOME |
| 01:56.18 | Sixen | hp, check your PMs |
| 01:56.25 | ScytheBlade1 | An error occurred while retrieving this character. Please try again in a few minutes. |
| 01:56.28 | Arthas- | Sixen aight |
| 01:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | fail |
| 01:56.29 | Sixen | Me too, sbo |
| 01:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 01:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401694074&sid=5000 |
| 01:56.43 | warturtle | it took me a while supman, one sec ill make a demo map |
| 01:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I wanted to tell that guy to press F3 |
| 01:57.04 | supman199 | That'd be nice, warturtle! |
| 01:57.33 | Sixen | F3? |
| 01:57.37 | ScytheBlade1 | search |
| 01:57.40 | Sixen | Oh right |
| 01:57.43 | Sixen | Gotcha ;) |
| 01:57.46 | ScytheBlade1 | and then type in *.s2ma |
| 01:58.13 | Bifuu | mmmmmmmmmmm steak |
| 01:58.19 | Iggyhopper | STEEEEK |
| 01:58.53 | Iggyhopper | Bifuu, I had killer steak last night, but it was like 8 bucks a pound, :P. I'm getting pizza tonight, |
| 01:59.12 | Bifuu | lakjsdlkajdlkasd |
| 01:59.19 | Bifuu | i just got home from work, at a pizza place |
| 01:59.28 | OrangePulp | 8 bucks a pound is cheap for killer steak |
| 01:59.32 | Bifuu | where i ate some Pizza |
| 01:59.33 | Bifuu | so ha |
| 01:59.57 | Barter | Sixen: "Because you can give them out privately or wait to publish them to Battle.net in another patch coming within the next week." is publishing really coming that soon? |
| 02:00.00 | Bifuu | 8 bucks a pound is cheap for any steak O.o |
| 02:00.07 | Gralamin | Stop making me want to order pizza. |
| 02:00.30 | Bifuu | Gralamin: Meat pizza with Extra Cheese gogo |
| 02:00.52 | Gralamin | But I should be saving money, not spending it. Also, I already ate dinner. |
| 02:01.01 | Skizot | http://skizot.ziggyware.com/rpg1.sc2map <- simple rpg map. |
| 02:01.15 | Iggyhopper | Skizot whats the gist? |
| 02:01.23 | Iggyhopper | you have a hero that can be leveld in ther? |
| 02:01.26 | Sixen | Yeah, Barter. |
| 02:01.32 | Sixen | There was a bluepost on it somewhere... |
| 02:01.41 | Bifuu | my prediction was wrong =/ |
| 02:01.45 | Barter | wow, thats great :P |
| 02:01.52 | zlefin | ugh, it's too hard trying to attach models to a unit, i'm gonna try some other things instead; balance change experiments |
| 02:01.54 | Skizot | no levelling just yet. |
| 02:02.05 | Barter | tought it would take quite a while for it to come |
| 02:02.10 | Iggyhopper | Barter: how else would you make multi-player maps testable? |
| 02:02.11 | Gralamin | zlefin: Yeah, thats tough. |
| 02:02.11 | Skizot | but it has a smooth 3rd person with wasd and new ui |
| 02:02.16 | GardenOfAiur | bluepost? |
| 02:02.37 | Iggyhopper | I hope my little frogger map comes to life. |
| 02:02.44 | Barter | Iggyhopper: ah I just thought it would be "soon" not so soon |
| 02:02.45 | Iggyhopper | It's a cross between frogger and CAPTURE ZE FLAGE |
| 02:02.49 | Sixen | Whoa, new icons on US bnet? |
| 02:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | so how do I make large cliffs without stretching the texture? |
| 02:03.04 | McLovin|Truhan | http://robotbox.keenspot.com/d/20041117.html |
| 02:03.13 | GardenOfAiur | new icons? |
| 02:03.18 | Sixen | Yeah, check it out |
| 02:03.29 | GardenOfAiur | bnet is back up? |
| 02:03.31 | Sixen | I guess |
| 02:03.37 | Sixen | I logged into the forums and I have some cool protoss icon |
| 02:03.55 | GardenOfAiur | oh on the forum |
| 02:03.56 | GardenOfAiur | ok |
| 02:04.02 | GardenOfAiur | my sc2 launcher keeps crashing |
| 02:04.25 | McLovin|Truhan | clearly a bug Sixen |
| 02:04.35 | Sixen | eh? |
| 02:04.46 | McLovin|Truhan | the new portraits from BNet |
| 02:04.52 | GardenOfAiur | bnet is still down |
| 02:04.59 | McLovin|Truhan | aren't in the system for foum icons yet |
| 02:05.00 | GardenOfAiur | US |
| 02:05.00 | AngryAmish | i can't launch the game now |
| 02:05.04 | GardenOfAiur | yeah same here |
| 02:05.05 | Sixen | I know. |
| 02:05.06 | GardenOfAiur | cant launch |
| 02:05.07 | AngryAmish | its hanging at the laucher |
| 02:05.09 | GardenOfAiur | it freezes |
| 02:05.12 | Sixen | Mine did that too |
| 02:05.14 | GardenOfAiur | angryamish same here |
| 02:05.15 | Sixen | It works after a while |
| 02:05.19 | Sixen | But then it says bnet is down |
| 02:05.44 | Razernok | man, the data editor is confusing |
| 02:05.50 | Gralamin | Wonder if they are fixing the Zerg bug |
| 02:05.51 | GardenOfAiur | im surprised they did a reset so soon. our data isnt reset is it? |
| 02:06.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dracor_ (~3ceaeb14@gateway/web/freenode/x-jinxqhxizkdhswxc) |
| 02:06.04 | GardenOfAiur | yeah i heard it was the zerg bug fix |
| 02:06.10 | McLovin|Truhan | yeah |
| 02:06.14 | Skizot | :( |
| 02:06.25 | McLovin|Truhan | and hopefully they'll nerf plat playars |
| 02:06.54 | Gralamin | Wait, you want them to nerf players? That'd be impressive :P |
| 02:07.12 | Bifuu | Sixen: did you se emy bug report? |
| 02:07.16 | Iggyhopper | oooh |
| 02:07.17 | Dustin | Fuckin GUI movement controls bs |
| 02:07.26 | Iggyhopper | if banks are stored online and synced |
| 02:07.30 | Iggyhopper | then we can have high scores |
| 02:07.32 | Iggyhopper | :P |
| 02:07.33 | Iggyhopper | :D |
| 02:08.31 | Skizot | no thoughts? |
| 02:08.35 | Ingela | so anyone hook me up with an awesome 1player map? |
| 02:08.37 | Sixen | I saw one yesterday, Bifuu |
| 02:09.10 | Bifuu | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401514299&postId=243993097279&sid=5000#0 |
| 02:09.45 | Gralamin | Skizot: Haven't had chance to test it yet. Will soon |
| 02:09.54 | McLovin|Truhan | http://robotbox.keenspot.com/d/20041201.html |
| 02:10.06 | supman199 | warturtle still here? |
| 02:10.07 | NoRoo | Any one come up with a good implementation for a generic projectile yet? |
| 02:10.18 | NoRoo | I have not :< |
| 02:10.34 | davidcramer | Anyone know how to increase range on blink past 500? |
| 02:10.44 | Iggyhopper | 500? |
| 02:10.45 | Iggyhopper | jeesus |
| 02:10.50 | AngryAmish | i did play that rpg map |
| 02:11.07 | davidcramer | Iggyhopper: ya its showing that as max value in range |
| 02:11.09 | AngryAmish | your changing the wrong value davidcramer |
| 02:11.11 | davidcramer | i dont get it |
| 02:11.13 | Iggyhopper | wow |
| 02:11.14 | davidcramer | thats cast range |
| 02:11.28 | Bifuu | Why do you want a blink that big? O.o |
| 02:11.30 | AngryAmish | range is measured in smaller units now, 5 is the range of blink standard |
| 02:11.30 | Iggyhopper | well then looks like youll have to hack the editor |
| 02:11.30 | davidcramer | nvm its under effects isnt it? |
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| 02:11.39 | davidcramer | ya it is :D |
| 02:11.42 | davidcramer | is this in meters? |
| 02:11.46 | Iggyhopper | loool |
| 02:11.48 | davidcramer | (8 is standard btw) |
| 02:12.03 | Bifuu | Should be map units |
| 02:12.09 | Bifuu | Show the smallest grid on the map |
| 02:12.13 | Bifuu | those are the units |
| 02:12.17 | davidcramer | ocol |
| 02:12.18 | Sixen | Yeah bif, I added that to my threa. |
| 02:12.23 | Bifuu | k |
| 02:12.26 | davidcramer | now to just figure out why my build button isnt working |
| 02:12.31 | Genopath | whats up with those qwebirc bots lol |
| 02:12.55 | Inschato | Probably not bots just people who joined from that website? |
| 02:13.04 | Iggyhopper | Lol, look at this action. |
| 02:13.07 | Bifuu | ok done eating time to finish this tutorial so i can make my own map xD |
| 02:13.08 | Iggyhopper | Fail Bliizard, Fail. |
| 02:13.09 | Iggyhopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.16 | Inschato | [19:13:10] [qwebirc11019 VERSION reply]: qwebirc v0.90, copyright (C) Chris Porter 2008-2009 -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) |
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| 02:14.11 | NoRoo | Generic projectiles? any one? seems like this is a critical part to a very large variety of maps |
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| 02:14.39 | Bifuu | NoRoo: Under Weapons theres a field for something that sounds like that |
| 02:14.40 | warturtle | mm is that sop guy still here |
| 02:14.45 | Bifuu | i havnt fucked with it yet |
| 02:14.47 | Bifuu | but mayve |
| 02:14.47 | supman199 | yes |
| 02:14.48 | supman199 | I'm here. |
| 02:14.51 | warturtle | I made a map that has a custom building in it, buildable from scv |
| 02:14.55 | warturtle | it is a pylon that shoots emp |
| 02:14.56 | Inschato | Is it just me, or is starcraft 2's beta like the biggest beta of all time? >_> |
| 02:15.09 | warturtle | lemme upload it then you can just see the data I modified |
| 02:15.13 | supman199 | k |
| 02:15.18 | NoRoo | bifuu: I've tried to spawn existing weapons as units, it has not worked |
| 02:15.35 | NoRoo | because that's probably not how it's supposed to be done |
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| 02:15.45 | warturtle | I dont think ill make a tutorial |
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| 02:16.04 | warturtle | I created new buttons too for the build, even though it recycles the pylon graphic |
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| 02:16.16 | AngryAmish | NoRoo: You're looking to make a bazooka type projectile? |
| 02:16.19 | tdelamay | Hello~ |
| 02:16.23 | supman199 | ah |
| 02:16.32 | qwebirc6959 | how do i make my roaches burrow without having to research burrow? |
| 02:16.46 | tdelamay | Has anyone figured out how to make player groups? |
| 02:16.51 | warturtle | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L6LOM2Z0 |
| 02:17.04 | NoRoo | AngryAmish: I suppose so, just a projectile of any sort with colision detection, |
| 02:17.04 | warturtle | is a custom building that shoots emps and is buildable from scv |
| 02:17.04 | Inschato | I think in the Abilities option of the unit you can take away the research requirement qwebirc6959 |
| 02:17.06 | supman199 | Thanks again man. |
| 02:17.06 | Mischgasm | I would try and remove and value that has a dependency on the research in the editor qwebirc |
| 02:17.21 | Gralamin | Skizot: Nice start a few comments: 1) The camera angle needs to be a bit more dynamic. Going down the ramp sucks, for instance, and if you use the arrow keys and Home, End, Insert, Delete etc. You can dislodge the camera to make it even more awkward. |
| 02:17.25 | Gralamin | But thats just minor details. |
| 02:17.44 | Jcup | Does anyone know if you can set a default/starting value to a hero attribute? :O Each new attribute I give to it starts as 0 x.x |
| 02:17.46 | davidcramer | oh ffs this is a pain |
| 02:17.48 | davidcramer | my blink still isnt working |
| 02:17.54 | davidcramer | we are building a survival map :D |
| 02:18.02 | Inschato | Jcup how many hours have you been asking that :p |
| 02:18.04 | Mischgasm | anybody know how to edit submenus like the build ability? |
| 02:18.10 | warturtle | Jcup how did you get heroes working in the first place |
| 02:18.22 | davidcramer | Mischgasm: change to a diff card |
| 02:18.24 | warturtle | mischgasm it's in the gui |
| 02:18.24 | davidcramer | though mines not working yet |
| 02:18.29 | Jcup | inschato: I just keep coming bak here to figure it out ive been working with other stuff |
| 02:18.42 | Inschato | I would probably be able to help you but I haven't touched heroes yet |
| 02:18.43 | Jcup | warturtle: I used veteran behaviors :D |
| 02:18.44 | warturtle | jcup can you upload the map with heroes? |
| 02:18.47 | Mojache | has anyone found a way to use your own files? |
| 02:18.49 | Mojache | like music? |
| 02:18.58 | davidcramer | oh i guess i need to make blink so it goes outside of visible range? |
| 02:18.58 | warturtle | there was an importer somewhere.. |
| 02:19.02 | Inschato | There's an import option |
| 02:19.07 | Inschato | It's one of the main buttons on the toolbar |
| 02:19.08 | Inschato | Far right |
| 02:19.10 | Jcup | warturtle: D: but itttsss a messs lol |
| 02:19.13 | Mojache | yeah but after you import them |
| 02:19.14 | davidcramer | anyone know how to do that? :) |
| 02:19.16 | Mojache | how do you use them |
| 02:19.18 | Mischgasm | thanks davidcramer |
| 02:19.19 | Mojache | like they dont show up |
| 02:19.21 | Mojache | in triggers |
| 02:19.29 | Inschato | Hmm. Looking in the right spot? :/ |
| 02:19.30 | warturtle | I just need to be able to track experience on units |
| 02:19.37 | warturtle | I dont even need inbuilt level up options |
| 02:19.41 | Inschato | does some testing |
| 02:19.49 | Inschato | Lemmesee... where'sa sound file when I want one |
| 02:19.51 | Mojache | theres no spot to look in for music/sound files |
| 02:19.55 | Mojache | i think they might be disable |
| 02:20.27 | Inschato | Yeah I think so too |
| 02:20.34 | Jcup | Heroes rr butt holes lol... They rr the biggest hassle lol Ive got attributes and exp so far ha |
| 02:20.43 | Kylegar | woo |
| 02:20.52 | Kylegar | I need to make my Archon a hero |
| 02:20.57 | Kylegar | in ZERGLING ZAP |
| 02:21.05 | Jcup | Im trying to get default values for hero attributes and Learnable abilities |
| 02:21.09 | Jcup | >.< |
| 02:21.24 | Sere4 | ZERGLING ZAP YO |
| 02:21.45 | Inschato | plays an mp3 file through the editor wooo :p |
| 02:21.46 | warturtle | You might have to use scripts to do level ups |
| 02:21.55 | warturtle | or is that supported? |
| 02:21.58 | Mojache | really? |
| 02:22.02 | Sere4 | I don't suppose anyone knows if you can place objects floating at different heights? |
| 02:22.06 | Mojache | can you upload your map inshcato |
| 02:22.08 | Mojache | or fill me in |
| 02:22.40 | Kylegar | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1940586/ZERGLINGZAP.SC2Map - New Version |
| 02:22.48 | Kylegar | more fun, and a loading screen |
| 02:22.56 | Gralamin | Kylegar: Awesome |
| 02:23.48 | Inschato | Hold on |
| 02:24.00 | Inschato | I just said I previewed it in the editor, I haven't gotten it into th emap yet :p |
| 02:24.09 | Jcup | warturtle: u dont have to use scripts just using behaviors D: |
| 02:24.34 | warturtle | I havent messed with behaviors yet |
| 02:24.35 | Jcup | butttt maybe to level it thru triggers o.O idk ha |
| 02:24.48 | warturtle | well like adding a skill point |
| 02:24.53 | warturtle | and picking what skill to lvl |
| 02:25.06 | Kylegar | mm |
| 02:25.12 | Jcup | I seriously dont understand how the learning system works in sc2 |
| 02:25.18 | Jcup | Like I cant figure it out ha |
| 02:25.41 | Jcup | I got it so when I started I was able to click on a learn thing but it didnt do anything and I was dissapointed ha |
| 02:26.02 | warturtle | maybe have a sub menu that lets you pick skills, and when you level up, it lets you pick one |
| 02:26.09 | draken | w |
| 02:26.09 | draken | t |
| 02:26.10 | draken | f |
| 02:26.10 | warturtle | added via scripting |
| 02:26.14 | draken | are blizzard doing |
| 02:26.16 | draken | no hotifx usa |
| 02:26.18 | draken | no EU yet |
| 02:26.52 | Jcup | Ive seen something before the editor came out thru file editing and it looked like wc3's system of spells with the learning and all that |
| 02:27.05 | Jcup | But now that the editor is out im stumped :DDDD |
| 02:27.05 | Inschato | stumbles upon the editor's console <_< |
| 02:27.26 | Bifuu | Hotfix for what? |
| 02:27.36 | Inschato | zerg glitch |
| 02:27.42 | Bifuu | what is it? |
| 02:27.46 | Inschato | Resulting in 100% zerg wins over T/P when executed properly |
| 02:28.04 | Mischgasm | Lol... |
| 02:28.11 | Inschato | You get larva back from cancelled eggs |
| 02:28.21 | Jcup | like 5 by the time spawn pool is up |
| 02:28.28 | Jcup | and thats 10 lings too rape :D |
| 02:28.34 | Inschato | 10 lings 6pool instead of 6lings |
| 02:28.36 | Bifuu | oh |
| 02:28.54 | Jcup | yeah spooky |
| 02:29.00 | Bifuu | thats nothign they can hotfix |
| 02:29.02 | warturtle | yeah I dont get why they didnt include heroes |
| 02:29.07 | warturtle | no sense to me |
| 02:29.16 | Bifuu | include heros to what |
| 02:29.18 | warturtle | i guess heroes/items arent working right atm |
| 02:29.18 | Jcup | haha like an example would make good sense ha |
| 02:29.21 | Gralamin | Well we just need one person to figure it out |
| 02:29.25 | Gralamin | And then post it up |
| 02:29.25 | Bifuu | warturtle: they work |
| 02:29.26 | Mischgasm | They might release some with the game and campain |
| 02:29.28 | Jcup | heroes r working |
| 02:29.34 | Mischgasm | will* |
| 02:29.39 | warturtle | maybe they just like makign things puzzling |
| 02:29.49 | Bifuu | Im writing a tutorial on Heroes and items and shit as we speak actually |
| 02:29.54 | warturtle | for GE? |
| 02:29.57 | Bifuu | indeed |
| 02:30.09 | Jcup | Bifuu did u figure out learnable spells x.x? |
| 02:30.09 | Bifuu | ill psuh what i have now |
| 02:30.13 | Kylegar | asdf |
| 02:30.14 | warturtle | yeah plz |
| 02:30.22 | SevenSeven | oh my god |
| 02:30.28 | SevenSeven | GE is so insanely complicated |
| 02:30.29 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ by Bifuu |
| 02:30.32 | Bifuu | there |
| 02:30.33 | Kylegar | Why is there not a trigger that when a variable gets somewere |
| 02:30.35 | Kylegar | like |
| 02:30.37 | Bifuu | its notcomplete |
| 02:30.39 | Kylegar | If Variable == 20 |
| 02:30.45 | Inschato | Is Repo like, the RSS bot or something <_< |
| 02:30.51 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 02:30.54 | Kylegar | mm |
| 02:31.04 | Kylegar | I should make a knowledge base page for my 3rd person movement |
| 02:31.15 | Bifuu | you should |
| 02:31.18 | Bifuu | not that hard |
| 02:31.35 | warturtle | I kind of want to view the xml :/ it has everything in the data module right? |
| 02:31.59 | Acolyte1 | is it possible to |
| 02:32.09 | Sholdak | bifuu: you should rename that hero inventory |
| 02:32.10 | Acolyte1 | play multiplayer |
| 02:32.16 | Sholdak | since it doesnt cover levels/attributes |
| 02:32.25 | Gralamin | Kylegar: Just do the check on whatever updates the Variable instead. |
| 02:32.29 | Acolyte1 | could I play a multiplayer map with my friends at all? (before publishing) |
| 02:32.34 | Acolyte1 | that was made in the galaxy edit |
| 02:32.35 | Bifuu | And who ever asked if i did skills yet, no thats coming soon, havnt even fucked with it yet |
| 02:32.35 | Acolyte1 | of course |
| 02:32.51 | Bifuu | Sholdak: why? |
| 02:33.04 | Kylegar | Gralamin bad place to do that |
| 02:33.13 | Sere4 | Anyone know if you can place objects at different height levels instead of just ground or air? |
| 02:33.14 | Kylegar | the variable is updated in a loop |
| 02:33.32 | Gralamin | Kylegar: A single Comparision does not add much complexity to a loop. |
| 02:33.33 | Sholdak | since most people will think hero would imply levels |
| 02:33.41 | Sholdak | unless you are still working on it, in which case nvm |
| 02:33.45 | AngryAmish | haha |
| 02:33.47 | AngryAmish | no way |
| 02:33.52 | Mischgasm | How do I use a probe to warp in a custom building? I'm trying to find the warp in ability and edit it for a custom building, but I can't find the warm in ability. |
| 02:33.55 | Kylegar | Gralamin i'm checking when a variable hits a certian condition to do it once |
| 02:33.59 | AngryAmish | someone was asking for a projectile earlier? |
| 02:34.01 | Jcup | Bifuu: dam ha I asked, but may I ask if u know if its possible to set a default value to an attribute? |
| 02:34.17 | AngryAmish | i made it so you can dodge marauder shots |
| 02:34.18 | Kylegar | like, when the variable hits 100, make a new region |
| 02:34.23 | Bifuu | Sholdak: im porting HPX's tutorial for him so im usuing all the neames he had, plus ill be addign ehros to this tutorial |
| 02:34.27 | tdelamay | Apparently, SCV's can walk off cliffs, is that normal O.o |
| 02:34.35 | Kylegar | if I put it in the loop, then it would do it as long as the variable is 100 |
| 02:34.39 | Bifuu | Jcup: should be, i havnt had the chance to look yet |
| 02:34.43 | FrozenFirebat | Weird... I just got into studying the trigger system... There doesn't seem to be any IF conditionals or Events based on Variable values. |
| 02:34.46 | AngryAmish | NoRoo: You there? |
| 02:34.51 | Sholdak | kk |
| 02:35.03 | Mischgasm | Anybody modifyed the build ability yet? |
| 02:35.04 | NoRoo | AngryAmish: yes |
| 02:35.14 | wacko | hi all |
| 02:35.18 | Jcup | Bifuu: ive been at it for hours ha along with trying to learn how to make learnable spells and just sa;ldjsadjsaldsadjsajkld lol xD |
| 02:35.24 | AngryAmish | so what exactly are you looking to do? i got it so that projectiles can miss because of movement |
| 02:35.53 | warturtle | where is the button for making a new data type? |
| 02:36.05 | NoRoo | I want to press a button on a keyboard, and have a dumbfire missile fly out of a specific unit |
| 02:36.08 | warturtle | mischgasm I did in a map http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L6LOM2Z0 |
| 02:36.10 | Jcup | warturtle: its the data tab at the top |
| 02:36.17 | AngryAmish | that impacts on ground as well? |
| 02:36.20 | Mischgasm | warturtle thanks |
| 02:36.28 | Acolyte1 | this is alot |
| 02:36.30 | AngryAmish | or terrain? |
| 02:36.30 | NoRoo | AngryAmish: I figure for now just stick to Air to Air |
| 02:36.32 | Acolyte1 | how can i make a hero |
| 02:36.33 | Acolyte1 | ? |
| 02:36.47 | NoRoo | AngryAmish: : once I get the basics I should have no problem manipulating the physics of the object |
| 02:37.12 | Sere4 | If anyone figures out whether or not you can set custom height levels for units, please PM me ^_^ |
| 02:37.21 | AngryAmish | well... i can get it doing that probably. i haven't figured out ground impact or how it would react if it doesn't blow up on a unit, but i just had marauder shots that you can dodge |
| 02:37.24 | Sere4 | Er, custom height levels for placement. |
| 02:37.28 | supman199 | warturtle: you modified the scv, scv ability and new building? |
| 02:37.28 | AngryAmish | by moving side to side |
| 02:37.37 | Gralamin | Sere4: Can't you do that by double clicking on the unit once its placed? |
| 02:37.39 | Dustin | Can you only show 1 boss boss at a time? |
| 02:37.43 | AngryAmish | it isn't a button, but it can't be far off once we get the mechanics working |
| 02:38.07 | AngryAmish | is that sort of what you're looking for? dodge able projectiles? |
| 02:38.10 | NoRoo | AngryAmish: that might be a start |
| 02:38.17 | warturtle | supman: I added a button in the scv so it can build the new building. I edited the "build ability" to include the new building. and I created a new building |
| 02:38.43 | NoRoo | AngryAmish: my intention is to fire the projectile based on the direction the unit is facing (shoot forward) so it will require a key press, which I know how to do |
| 02:38.47 | draken | us down ? |
| 02:39.14 | AngryAmish | hmm |
| 02:39.23 | NoRoo | AngryAmish: basically I have an air unit right now that moves around with rotation and thrust |
| 02:39.23 | Dustin | Anyone want to test out my map? |
| 02:39.42 | supman199 | warturtle: I'm looking at the command card on scv and I don't see anything different? |
| 02:39.51 | warturtle | click the 2 |
| 02:39.56 | warturtle | there are multiple command cards |
| 02:40.01 | AngryAmish | let me play around some more, but they key you're probably looking for is setting the projectile's mover motion phase to ballistic |
| 02:40.15 | Razernok | Why is it some items on the command card for custom units don't all show up? |
| 02:40.22 | supman199 | oh |
| 02:40.26 | Inschato | Hahaha. There's a whole ton of sounds in the editor where the subtitle says things like "Humiliation! Fantastic! Red. Blue. Green", but they all really just say "PLACEHOLDER SOUND FILE" |
| 02:40.27 | AngryAmish | and playing with the atributes to ensure a smooth attack |
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| 02:40.52 | NoRoo | AngryAmish: yeah I've don that before it's a good start, the problem I have is setting up a system where my keypress activates an ability that fires the weapon |
| 02:41.01 | Skizot | anyone feel like terraining a map for me? |
| 02:41.15 | wacko | no |
| 02:41.18 | Gralamin | considers make a Lunar Ladder game in the Editor. |
| 02:41.18 | Razernok | Why is it some items on the command card for custom units don't all show up? |
| 02:41.26 | warturtle | http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6955/jpgs.jpg |
| 02:41.41 | Teal | Razernok, you have to have the item on the command card point at the ability you want to cast |
| 02:41.56 | Razernok | i do |
| 02:41.59 | Teal | it doesn't automatically point at the ability, even if you clone it |
| 02:42.02 | warturtle | the button is just an image, if it doesnt have an ability assigned |
| 02:42.13 | warturtle | it does nothing and wont show up |
| 02:42.35 | Razernok | like i made a custom ghost, (copy of the first one) and things like move and some ghost spells don't show up |
| 02:42.45 | AngryAmish | i'll keep looking |
| 02:42.52 | warturtle | They should have renamed the buttons to "Build Refinery Image" or something |
| 02:43.08 | Sere4 | Gralamin: What I need to do is, um... for a side scroller. Let's say something like megaman, where you have platforms to jump on. I need to be able to add height levels since all air units use the same altitude currently |
| 02:43.34 | Sere4 | The editor only lets you change X/Y axis, which are left/right and front/back =/ |
| 02:43.42 | Gralamin | Sere4: Hmm, let me see if I can figure that out. One Second. |
| 02:43.45 | Sere4 | Not sure if I can add my own Z axis in there |
| 02:43.52 | Sere4 | I mean, it's a 3d game so it clearly uses the Z axis |
| 02:43.57 | Sere4 | I just don't see a function for editing it |
| 02:44.56 | Teal | right now GE crashes more often than it doesn't for me =\ |
| 02:45.46 | Gralamin | Sere4: Lets see, theres the Art-Height value in on the unit, but obviously we don't want 9,000 units to get some hieght changing... |
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| 02:45.53 | Sere4 | Lol |
| 02:46.11 | warturtle | CUnit-Height |
| 02:46.16 | warturtle | changes distance from ground |
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| 02:46.26 | Gralamin | Yeah, there is a trigger function |
| 02:46.37 | Gralamin | So that would be a lot of initalization, but there you go. |
| 02:46.44 | Ziros | Anyone know how to import custom sounds? |
| 02:46.49 | Sere4 | Any idea how many levels you can set? Or how high it can go? |
| 02:46.58 | warturtle | ? |
| 02:46.59 | Inschato | Not possible in this incarnation Ziros, that's my determination |
| 02:47.02 | warturtle | it's variable to whatever you want |
| 02:47.19 | warturtle | you would have to work on a lot of stuff though to make a megaman game in Galaxy editor |
| 02:47.28 | warturtle | why not just use a 2d engine |
| 02:47.37 | Ziros | damn, was hoping that wasn't the case Inschato |
| 02:47.37 | Sere4 | Because I don't know any programming :) |
| 02:47.57 | Sere4 | Triggers and models are all I need for what I'm doing |
| 02:48.00 | warturtle | then you have to work inside the bounds of the tools |
| 02:48.03 | Sere4 | Yup. |
| 02:48.16 | Sere4 | As long as I can place units at varying heights, I'm all set :o |
| 02:48.18 | warturtle | and triggers are basically programming |
| 02:48.27 | Sere4 | Triggers are easy, though |
| 02:49.15 | Sere4 | The editor gives me an easy UI to work with... kinda like how I don't know a thing about HTML, but I can make a professional looking and functioning website with Dreamweaber |
| 02:49.18 | Sere4 | Dreamweaver* |
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| 02:50.11 | Ecu_ | 'elo |
| 02:50.24 | Inschato | GE is slightly more complicated I'd say |
| 02:50.34 | Inschato | Especially considering how often it lets you do some actual scripting :p |
| 02:50.42 | Sere4 | Well, it's only complicated right now because it's new |
| 02:50.44 | Gralamin | To get a 2d sort of thing going, couldn't you just use a camera set to Target - Pitch 90 Degrees, and lock the player to the camera? |
| 02:50.52 | Sere4 | THe learning curve is pretty low on it, though |
| 02:50.53 | Iggyhopper | How do I tell the unit to move? |
| 02:50.55 | Sere4 | Yes Gralamin |
| 02:51.01 | Sere4 | What I'm doing is making a map |
| 02:51.06 | warturtle | http://gpwiki.org/index.php/Game_Engines |
| 02:51.07 | Sere4 | Setting the camera to a side view and locking it |
| 02:51.12 | Sere4 | And to make sure the player stays in one place |
| 02:51.23 | Sere4 | You use the Pathing editor to define one straight path across the map |
| 02:51.33 | Sere4 | It's actually VERY simple to make |
| 02:51.44 | warturtle | jumping, collisions etc |
| 02:51.45 | Sere4 | The hard part is creating AI for the units and stuff once you get the map done |
| 02:51.50 | warturtle | is a little different |
| 02:52.40 | Gralamin | nods |
| 02:53.16 | Inschato | You don't really have to use the pathing or w/e if you're just using the keyboard or something to move them |
| 02:53.33 | Sere4 | Well, to avoid any mistakes with the computer AI |
| 02:53.38 | Sere4 | It doesn't hurt to use it |
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| 02:54.02 | Bladezor | Soooo... |
| 02:54.14 | Bladezor | How's everyone today? :P |
| 02:54.23 | Ecu_ | Alright. |
| 02:54.30 | Kylegar | good |
| 02:54.37 | warturtle | Im just thinkinga bout your idea |
| 02:54.39 | Kylegar | I'm writing a kb article for 3rd person movement |
| 02:54.39 | warturtle | and how you could do it |
| 02:54.41 | Bladezor | I wonder how the map downloading is going to work. |
| 02:54.48 | warturtle | basically you have to hack in everything |
| 02:54.51 | Iggyhopper | how to order unit to move? |
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| 02:55.31 | warturtle | I guess you cna use regions for 2d collision |
| 02:55.31 | Bladezor | Anyone working on an evolves map yet |
| 02:55.32 | Bladezor | ? |
| 02:55.36 | Iggyhopper | no |
| 02:55.39 | Inschato | Ew, evolves <_< |
| 02:55.48 | liq3 | ew, evolves. |
| 02:55.49 | liq3 | lol. |
| 02:55.49 | warturtle | and just hide it all in a different part of the map |
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| 02:56.24 | SBolt | hello! im lookin to get help with making a kill tracker been messin around with leaderboard for a couple hours |
| 02:56.30 | FrozenFirebat | OMG, it seems like with the trigger editor they went a step in the retarded direction with the system... Anybody have a map with triggers already written that I can look over? |
| 02:56.39 | Sere4 | Well... |
| 02:56.47 | Sere4 | When you make a new model, say for a platform |
| 02:56.48 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat; why? |
| 02:56.54 | Sere4 | You should be able to include collision in the model |
| 02:57.00 | Inschato | Tons FrozenFirebat, it depends what sort of triggers you're interested in |
| 02:57.20 | Bifuu | holy fuck shit lol |
| 02:57.20 | warturtle | all the 2d stuff would have to be done in custom script I think |
| 02:57.21 | Bladezor | The "Convert Legacy Map" option is terrible :P |
| 02:57.24 | FrozenFirebat | Cause I can't figure out If Statements... it's not in events or conditions |
| 02:57.29 | Sere4 | There would be nothing 2d though |
| 02:57.29 | Dustin | Guys! |
| 02:57.30 | Dustin | http://www.filedropper.com/topdownfighters |
| 02:57.32 | Dustin | Test my map! |
| 02:57.36 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: if statements are easy. ;] |
| 02:57.36 | Dustin | WASD movement |
| 02:57.37 | warturtle | well for a sidescroller |
| 02:57.38 | Sere4 | Everything would be in 3d, and you simple set the camera to only display it in 2d |
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| 02:57.41 | Dustin | Click to Fire a missle |
| 02:57.42 | FrozenFirebat | and causality based on variables |
| 02:57.46 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat; what kind of condition you want? |
| 02:57.48 | Bladezor | Duman |
| 02:57.50 | Bladezor | er |
| 02:57.53 | Bladezor | Dustin on it |
| 02:58.00 | warturtle | well if you are thinking of megaman.. running into units.. shooting things etc |
| 02:58.05 | Inschato | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/files/425/753/Whackazerg.SC2Map might just might have what you're looking for, lol |
| 02:58.14 | NoRoo | speaking of shooting things... |
| 02:58.25 | NoRoo | still can't figure out generic projectile |
| 02:58.29 | Sere4 | I'm simply using Megaman as an example of the altitude issues I needed help with |
| 02:58.36 | Sere4 | I actually hated Megaman games :P |
| 02:58.37 | NoRoo | help help ;_; |
| 02:58.45 | Dustin | WHAT |
| 02:58.48 | Dustin | MEgaman was badass |
| 02:59.02 | Ecu_ | The new editor seems rather amazing. |
| 02:59.08 | Gralamin | It is amazing |
| 02:59.12 | Gralamin | Nice level of complexity |
| 02:59.15 | Iggyhopper | IT IS |
| 02:59.19 | FrozenFirebat | Specifically... how do I make a trigger conditional on variables? |
| 02:59.19 | Gralamin | Lots of easy things to do, lots of harder things |
| 02:59.24 | Sere4 | But what I'm thinking is make the map, then path off all but a one grid line going across it, in front of the scenery I want. THen on that line is where ALL 3d objects go. Units, platforms, etc |
| 02:59.33 | warturtle | for projectiles... can you use the inbuilt movers and a "dummy target" to control the path |
| 02:59.33 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: the condition part... |
| 02:59.35 | Sere4 | So when the camera is locked to the side, it all appears 2d... but has the collision built in already |
| 02:59.40 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: You still neeed an event tho. |
| 02:59.43 | General1337 | FrozenFirebat what do you mean |
| 02:59.55 | Ecu_ | Does SC2 have gravity and such so that you could do a nice platformer easily? |
| 03:00.00 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: if you tell me what you're trying to do i can give more specific help. |
| 03:00.07 | warturtle | I don't know how you detect collisions with units etc though |
| 03:00.12 | Inschato | Actions --> General --> IfThenElse |
| 03:00.13 | Inschato | lol |
| 03:00.15 | supman199 | Hmm, is there a way to give bounty? As in when you kill a unit, you get 5 minerals etc. |
| 03:00.16 | NoRoo | warturtle: explain, my goal by the way is to have the weapon triggered by a key press (which I've already set up) |
| 03:00.19 | liq3 | Ecu_: i think so. It's using the Havok engine. Goodluck making a unit "jump" tho. :P |
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| 03:00.32 | Sere4 | Jump shouldn't be too hard |
| 03:00.40 | Sere4 | It will take a LOT of trigger editing though, I think |
| 03:00.42 | Gralamin | Yeah, you can do jump with a pretty simple loop |
| 03:00.49 | Dustin | All the avanced stuff will be availible when they let us use GALAXY |
| 03:00.55 | Drepacca-mobile | is mega man the guy who was captured in iraq, only to build a flying suit of metal with rocket launchers to escape? |
| 03:00.55 | Drepacca-mobile | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.56 | Dustin | Untill then, GUI just doesnt hold up |
| 03:00.59 | Gralamin | Just apply an inital upward velocity and use physics to bring it back down. |
| 03:01.00 | zlefin | if you make a map to test some data changes, how hard is it to convert it to a mod later? or do we just not know since mods aren't properly testable yet? |
| 03:01.02 | Sere4 | Like, you simply make a trigger that increases the altitude by x every .01 seconds or something up to a point, then let gravity bring it down |
| 03:01.02 | supman199 | You can use galaxy - Crtl + F11 |
| 03:01.05 | Sere4 | Rough concept, at least. |
| 03:01.09 | SCMapper | I made a really simple jump with http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/smooth-3rd-person-movement/ |
| 03:01.14 | Sere4 | And yeah, Gralamin's way sounds easier :P |
| 03:01.20 | Elyk | Where do you create variables at in the GE? |
| 03:01.21 | SCMapper | just changing the unit height with a fixed time to it |
| 03:01.23 | Bladezor | Haha Duman |
| 03:01.24 | Bladezor | er |
| 03:01.24 | liq3 | sere4: that's a terrible way to do it. -__ |
| 03:01.25 | Bladezor | Dustin |
| 03:01.27 | Bladezor | Nice job |
| 03:01.28 | Bladezor | Also |
| 03:01.34 | Bladezor | General1337 what are you doing here :X |
| 03:01.35 | General1337 | you can create variables in the trigger or outside the trigger |
| 03:01.37 | Sere4 | Terrible, but a way to do it nonetheless ;) |
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| 03:01.42 | Dustin | CTRL+F11 opens the script tester |
| 03:01.49 | Dustin | not converting trigs to galaxy |
| 03:01.49 | General1337 | mapping for sc2 Bladezor |
| 03:01.51 | General1337 | :| |
| 03:01.52 | Kylegar | more like what are you doing here Bladezor |
| 03:01.54 | liq3 | proper way is just add upwards velocity. :p |
| 03:01.55 | General1337 | ^ |
| 03:02.00 | Kylegar | it's lauhalp all over again |
| 03:02.05 | Bladezor | General1337 do you actually have a beta account :P? |
| 03:02.06 | General1337 | yeah end it all |
| 03:02.10 | General1337 | yes Bladezor |
| 03:02.12 | Kylegar | except with cool people |
| 03:02.12 | supman199 | Hmm, is there a way to give bounty? As in when you kill a unit, you get 5 minerals etc. |
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| 03:02.17 | Bladezor | Oh really? |
| 03:02.20 | Bladezor | Nice |
| 03:02.22 | Bladezor | When did you get it |
| 03:02.26 | Bladezor | Cause I remember asking you a while ago |
| 03:02.27 | General1337 | monday |
| 03:02.30 | Sere4 | And since it's a platformer, you only really need left click, A, D, Jump, and maybe a hotkey to switch weapons or something |
| 03:02.31 | liq3 | supman199: yes. |
| 03:02.35 | Bladezor | Also Dustin the movement is a bit buggy |
| 03:02.35 | General1337 | a day before the galaxy editor came out |
| 03:02.39 | supman199 | Could you explain how? |
| 03:02.41 | Dustin | Ya |
| 03:02.41 | Bladezor | Like you can't move diagonaly |
| 03:02.42 | liq3 | supman199: i came up with a way to do it in 2 actions and one variable. :D |
| 03:02.44 | Teal | anyone figure out how to do realtime terrain deformation? |
| 03:02.48 | Dustin | I just threw in a quick one |
| 03:02.49 | supman199 | :P |
| 03:02.52 | Sere4 | Teal, I did |
| 03:02.54 | General1337 | Kylegar did you get anything with leveling and experience out |
| 03:02.54 | Gralamin | Something I've wondered but haven't checked. |
| 03:02.54 | liq3 | supman199: altho that is per player. :( |
| 03:02.55 | Dustin | I need to refine it and add diagnol movement |
| 03:02.58 | General1337 | actually I didn't even test the level yet |
| 03:02.59 | Elyk | I click the "Variable" text and it wants me to select a variable, don't see where I can create one. |
| 03:03.01 | Dustin | And code a proper projectile system |
| 03:03.03 | Gralamin | I've seen maps that do stuff when you left click |
| 03:03.05 | Bladezor | Kylegar and no it's not like luahelp |
| 03:03.06 | Bifuu | http://i43.tinypic.com/9urtyx.png |
| 03:03.08 | Bifuu | shit oops |
| 03:03.09 | Dustin | It's all just work arounds till I can code :P |
| 03:03.12 | Gralamin | Is there anyway to repeat that while you hold DOWN the button? |
| 03:03.14 | Sere4 | Make a cliff, leave the edge buildable, and build something on it in-game. THe terrain will morph :x |
| 03:03.23 | Teal | bah |
| 03:03.26 | Sere4 | Lol |
| 03:03.28 | Sere4 | HOWEVER |
| 03:03.29 | Teal | i mean making cliffs spawnable through triggers |
| 03:03.33 | Sere4 | Well |
| 03:03.40 | Kylegar | SCMapper did you use my technique for camera movement? |
| 03:03.45 | Sere4 | Since placing buildings on cliffs causes the terrain to adjust in a melee game |
| 03:03.49 | Bladezor | Dustin the API not really documented yet? |
| 03:03.49 | Sere4 | There's obviously a way to do it, so |
| 03:03.53 | Sere4 | Perhaps you can make a trigger |
| 03:03.58 | Sere4 | That spawns an invisible building |
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| 03:04.06 | Bladezor | BNet still down? |
| 03:04.12 | NoRoo_ | disconnected, back now |
| 03:04.19 | Sere4 | It won't let you control how the terrain morphs, but if you make it the right size and shape you can at least get it to change some |
| 03:04.20 | Kylegar | Bladezor the exported native function are documented in Galaxy Editor |
| 03:04.24 | Kylegar | go to the trigger editor |
| 03:04.26 | Kylegar | display libraires |
| 03:04.32 | Sere4 | Won't turn a mountain into a lake, though |
| 03:04.36 | Kylegar | and expand the built-in library |
| 03:04.44 | Bladezor | Ah, k thx |
| 03:05.01 | Ecu_ | I wish the server was up. |
| 03:05.10 | Ecu_ | I kinda wanna play another game before sleepin |
| 03:05.16 | Elyk | n/m figured out the variable thing, I didn't see that variables had their own section in each trigger |
| 03:05.16 | warturtle | that terrain deform is handled in data I think |
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| 03:05.42 | thundpressor | Can you test maps without internet? |
| 03:05.45 | Sere4 | But is it accessible during a game? |
| 03:05.47 | thundpressor | Erm, BNet? |
| 03:05.49 | General1337 | I hope they give more camera controls |
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| 03:05.53 | Bladezor | woops |
| 03:05.56 | Elyk | actually.. that's a local variable, anyone know how to create a global variable? |
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| 03:05.58 | General1337 | if they release like this I'm going to get so angry |
| 03:06.05 | qwebirc57419 | Hey guys |
| 03:06.08 | Gralamin | Elyk: Yeah |
| 03:06.08 | Bladezor | General1337 release like what? |
| 03:06.11 | qwebirc57419 | hows the mapping going |
| 03:06.17 | General1337 | the amount of camera functions they have no |
| 03:06.18 | General1337 | now* |
| 03:06.19 | warturtle | in actor "terraindeformer" is there, it seems to only change the visuals |
| 03:06.20 | General1337 | actually |
| 03:06.29 | Teal | the data stuff on terrain just looks like replacing the textures |
| 03:06.36 | General1337 | the only thing I want is the ability to attach the camera or modify the XYZ properties of the camera |
| 03:06.38 | warturtle | it changes the hieght |
| 03:06.39 | General1337 | give me those and i'm good |
| 03:06.43 | Gralamin | Elyk: Try pressing Ctrl+B |
| 03:06.44 | Teal | i want to be literally able to remake a map after it's been completed just through triggers |
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| 03:06.56 | Sere4 | Teal: Maybe you could make a larger map, and make some terrain off in a corner... and use a trigger to take a chunk from the corner and replace something else with it? |
| 03:07.01 | Sere4 | Hm.. |
| 03:07.03 | Teal | terrain deformation + random map generation script |
| 03:07.07 | Teal | action rpg |
| 03:07.09 | supman199 | Nevermind, you can give bounty reward in data editor - "Kill Resource" |
| 03:07.17 | Sere4 | I'm working on an RPG right now, and having some trouble myself |
| 03:07.22 | wacko | General1337 I am not sure what you mean... but you can do those things |
| 03:07.26 | liq3 | supman199: this is probably useful anyway. http://i40.tinypic.com/2rgf951.png |
| 03:07.26 | Teal | eh, this is for later |
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| 03:07.31 | General1337 | no you can't |
| 03:07.31 | Sere4 | I'm trying to mess with level completion scripts :( |
| 03:07.33 | Teal | i'm fiddling around with other stuff in the mean time |
| 03:07.42 | General1337 | the camera can't get attached or you can't modify the xyz properties of it |
| 03:07.45 | liq3 | supman199: altho that might be much better. ima try it. o.o |
| 03:07.50 | supman199 | lol |
| 03:07.55 | General1337 | you can only use "Follow" |
| 03:09.08 | SevenSeven | Anyone know how to attach an actor or model to a unit using the data editor? |
| 03:09.15 | wacko | yes |
| 03:09.16 | supman199 | Actor |
| 03:09.21 | supman199 | unitName |
| 03:09.23 | supman199 | RIGHT AT THE TOP |
| 03:09.23 | liq3 | supman199: oh my god it gives resouces when you kill them. That's amazing. Nice find. XD |
| 03:09.28 | supman199 | lol D: |
| 03:09.29 | General1337 | yeah that's so stupid |
| 03:09.56 | General1337 | Bladezor have you made anything in GE yet |
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| 03:10.06 | Bladezor | General1337 not really |
| 03:10.13 | Gralamin | Anyone figure out how to attach a model to another? (So you could have a Spinecrawler - including its attack, attached to an Ultralisk ala Uberlisk) |
| 03:10.14 | Bladezor | u? |
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| 03:10.25 | Labmonkey2 | guys |
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| 03:10.28 | liq3 | Gralamin: i don't think anyone has figured out a good way. |
| 03:10.31 | Labmonkey2 | have yo useen the convert legacy feature |
| 03:10.31 | SevenSeven | @supman: I mean what gralamin wants |
| 03:10.31 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 03:10.33 | Bladezor | I'm just wondering how the map downloading is going to work |
| 03:10.34 | Labmonkey2 | I just saw it |
| 03:10.37 | Sere4 | Gralamin: There's an option for Attach Unit To that gives you a dropdown list |
| 03:10.43 | Sere4 | But it doesn't seem to do anything for me =/ |
| 03:10.48 | Gralamin | Sere4: Hmm |
| 03:10.48 | supman199 | Can you make a "wave" with AI Attack Wave? like mwm |
| 03:10.54 | supman199 | wmw* |
| 03:10.57 | SevenSeven | @Sere4: where? |
| 03:10.58 | Bladezor | like if it's a use-map-settings map for 4 players will Battle.NET let you play or what? |
| 03:10.59 | Gralamin | See I tried taking the XML Tutorial |
| 03:11.02 | Bladezor | Cause there's no 4v4 |
| 03:11.04 | Sere4 | If you go into the unit editor |
| 03:11.05 | Gralamin | And applying it to the editor |
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| 03:11.07 | Sere4 | And scroll allll the way down |
| 03:11.07 | General1337 | Bladezor i'm making a defense thing where you control a guy and build turrets to defend against waves of zergs right now to learn GE |
| 03:11.07 | Bladezor | but 2v2 and ffa is fine |
| 03:11.09 | Gralamin | But that didn't work |
| 03:11.10 | Sere4 | It's the second to last entry |
| 03:11.16 | Sere4 | "Attach Unit To +" or something |
| 03:11.27 | Gralamin | Yeah saw that |
| 03:11.29 | Sere4 | Gives you a dropdown list of units, and a second list of special attacks |
| 03:11.29 | liq3 | Bladezor: UMS will use the "create game" button. |
| 03:11.30 | Bladezor | I was gonna make an Evolves game but meh |
| 03:11.32 | FrozenFirebat | How do I define a global variable? |
| 03:11.36 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/3rd-person-controls/ by Kylegar |
| 03:11.42 | Sere4 | I assumed it was for units attaching, but it doesn't seem to do anything by itself |
| 03:11.48 | SevenSeven | not seeing it |
| 03:11.48 | General1337 | FrozenFirebat in the triggers area |
| 03:11.49 | SevenSeven | lol |
| 03:11.53 | Bladezor | liq3 with a max of 4 players? |
| 03:11.56 | liq3 | no. |
| 03:11.58 | Sere4 | You need to open all of the window views |
| 03:11.58 | warturtle | I think you can make a map in triggers but it will be slightly complicated |
| 03:12.01 | General1337 | where you make new triggers, right click new->variable for global variable SevenSeven |
| 03:12.02 | Sere4 | Advanced views or whatever |
| 03:12.02 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/3rd_person_controls/ by Kylegar |
| 03:12.04 | liq3 | I think the max is 18 or something. |
| 03:12.12 | Kylegar | woops |
| 03:12.15 | liq3 | I know you can have like 16 specs in a 1v1. |
| 03:12.20 | Bladezor | I'd prefer to do the maps in Galaxy script |
| 03:12.23 | Kylegar | I broke something |
| 03:12.28 | FrozenFirebat | thx |
| 03:12.32 | Sere4 | It looks like there are 16 players available |
| 03:12.36 | AngryAmish | anyone figure out how to fire attacks that hit the first thing they touch, instead of a target? |
| 03:12.36 | Sere4 | But usually you will hjave one neutral |
| 03:12.41 | Bifuu | Kylegar: you have it in the wrong spot too lol |
| 03:12.41 | Sere4 | Even on melee maps, the minimum is 3 players |
| 03:12.42 | liq3 | There's uh, 16 players in the editor, 0 being neut and 15 hostile. |
| 03:12.47 | Kylegar | yap |
| 03:12.48 | liq3 | So I imagine the max is 14. |
| 03:12.48 | Kylegar | halp |
| 03:12.50 | Sere4 | Because you need a neutral player for watch towers and destructible rocks |
| 03:12.50 | Bifuu | And why cant i launch my maps >.< |
| 03:12.53 | Kylegar | I dunno how to use this wiki system |
| 03:13.03 | supman199 | Repo, the link you gave is down. |
| 03:13.05 | draken | how do i fool around with blinking stalkers in the editor ? |
| 03:13.07 | supman199 | well, it gives a 404 |
| 03:13.11 | warturtle | you can only change the visual height, not change cliffs, so you have to change pathing too, to make cliffs unpassable etc, but you wont have high ground invisible... |
| 03:13.13 | liq3 | draken: hrm? |
| 03:13.21 | draken | like how do u give them blink |
| 03:13.22 | draken | ;/ |
| 03:13.28 | liq3 | by default? |
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| 03:13.31 | draken | ya |
| 03:13.33 | liq3 | trigger, "tech tree" action. |
| 03:13.42 | draken | ta |
| 03:13.43 | Gralamin | You have to either give them the upgrade or remove the need for it |
| 03:13.45 | Gralamin | Either would work |
| 03:13.48 | warturtle | you could add the actors from the props/doodads through triggers too, and add some dummy structure ontop of them that is invulnerable and unpassable |
| 03:13.49 | Kylegar | Bifuu |
| 03:13.51 | Bifuu | Kylegar: When you make a page use this for the name "SC2 API / Getting Started with GalaxyEdit / 3rd Person Camera Controls" |
| 03:13.52 | SevenSeven | @sere: I've got everything active, I clicked on a unit but there's no attach thing |
| 03:13.57 | Kylegar | ok |
| 03:14.03 | warturtle | but cliffs/levels won't work |
| 03:14.17 | Kylegar | In quotes? |
| 03:14.20 | Kylegar | or without them |
| 03:14.55 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/3rd-person/ by Kylegar |
| 03:15.08 | SBolt | could i get help with a kill tracker? anyone know how to make one yet? |
| 03:15.09 | Kylegar | still 404ing |
| 03:15.32 | Sere4 | SevenSeven: I'm not sure then. It's right at the bottom of my list... let me give you an exact name, one sec |
| 03:15.33 | liq3 | SBolt: i could try. :p |
| 03:15.36 | Inschato | SBolt: TriggerAddEventUnitDied |
| 03:16.03 | Sere4 | SevenSeven: (None) - Added On Units + |
| 03:16.07 | Sere4 | Is the variable name |
| 03:16.08 | SevenSeven | oooh |
| 03:16.10 | SevenSeven | yeah I saw that |
| 03:16.10 | SBolt | Inschato does leaderboard have anything to do with it? |
| 03:16.19 | SevenSeven | I think it's just to modify the behavior |
| 03:16.22 | Sere4 | It doesn't seem to do anything by itself, though |
| 03:16.23 | Sere4 | Possible |
| 03:16.25 | Inschato | I don't know I'm trying to figure out the dialog stuff myself right now -_- |
| 03:16.26 | Sere4 | Possibly* |
| 03:16.36 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 03:16.37 | SevenSeven | it makes sense |
| 03:16.41 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/3rd-person/ by Bifuu |
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| 03:16.46 | SevenSeven | "Added on units" - already added units |
| 03:17.36 | warturtle | you can count player kills using the score feature |
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| 03:17.49 | warturtle | just set every unit to give 1 score on death and everything else to 0 |
| 03:17.52 | Labmonkey2 | wow |
| 03:17.54 | Labmonkey2 | convert legacy maps |
| 03:17.55 | Labmonkey2 | really cooly |
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| 03:18.00 | Labmonkey2 | you can import wc3 terrain |
| 03:18.00 | wacko | yea it is |
| 03:18.02 | Labmonkey2 | and sc terrain |
| 03:18.02 | Bifuu | Kylegar: ill talk to someone about it |
| 03:18.03 | wacko | and sc1 maps |
| 03:18.07 | Kylegar | ok |
| 03:18.09 | Bryan_Johnson | yay |
| 03:18.11 | Kylegar | I was wondering what I broke |
| 03:18.12 | Bryan_Johnson | gack |
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| 03:18.20 | buu | Hey |
| 03:18.25 | AgentPaper | stupid nick |
| 03:18.31 | AgentPaper | nobody saw that |
| 03:18.35 | AgentPaper | grumble |
| 03:18.38 | wacko | lol |
| 03:18.42 | wacko | Bryan LOL |
| 03:18.53 | Bifuu | lol i dunno, but now im afraid for my tutorial now haha |
| 03:18.54 | Gralamin | Hello AgentPaper. |
| 03:18.55 | zlefin | if i'm making an ability to modify a unit based on some of its parameters, how do I reference the parent unit to check what the value of that parameter currently is? (not trigger editing, abiltiy/behavior editing) |
| 03:18.57 | buu | Starting from the basics here, how do I tell a unit to attack move someplace? |
| 03:18.58 | Labmonkey2 | oh wow |
| 03:19.00 | Labmonkey2 | broodwar maps |
| 03:19.02 | Labmonkey2 | do way better |
| 03:19.04 | Labmonkey2 | than sc original |
| 03:19.05 | Labmonkey2 | lol |
| 03:19.12 | Sere4 | How do you change your nick? I have a stupid number 4 after mine for some reason ;( |
| 03:19.14 | AgentPaper | too late for me to do this now tho |
| 03:19.20 | buu | Sere4: Try /nick |
| 03:19.22 | Gralamin | Sere4: /nick usually |
| 03:19.22 | AgentPaper | will have questions tomorrow =) |
| 03:19.22 | General1337 | type /nick |
| 03:19.24 | Kylegar | I know, This is a good tutorial :( |
| 03:19.25 | GardenOfAiur | sere4 type /nick |
| 03:19.25 | Sere4 | I did, it doesn't work lol |
| 03:19.31 | Sere4 | I'm on freenode's java webchat |
| 03:19.34 | Sere4 | It's so budget |
| 03:19.34 | General1337 | what client are you using |
| 03:19.39 | General1337 | o |
| 03:19.45 | Gralamin | Use mibbit or something instead. |
| 03:19.45 | Sere4 | It has a Change Nick button |
| 03:19.50 | Sere4 | But you type it and it doesn't do anything |
| 03:19.56 | Arthas- | ok before i leave |
| 03:19.58 | Sere4 | Yeah I'm too lazy to relog at this point |
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| 03:20.03 | Kylegar | wow |
| 03:20.06 | Kylegar | and pastebin is down |
| 03:20.08 | Arthas- | i recommend Gravity http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1548669/ |
| 03:20.12 | Arthas- | nn |
| 03:20.34 | wacko | vdfdfvsfvsfv |
| 03:20.47 | Genopath | any pro's here with arrays |
| 03:20.47 | GardenOfAiur | server still room? |
| 03:20.48 | Genopath | ? |
| 03:21.01 | Kylegar | how can you not be a pro with an array? |
| 03:21.02 | wacko | yes |
| 03:21.06 | Kylegar | its a simple struct |
| 03:21.07 | Genopath | comment here plz: |
| 03:21.08 | Genopath | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/423-regions-in-arrays/ |
| 03:21.09 | Kylegar | what do you need? |
| 03:21.21 | buu | That's because there's already someone named sere =/ |
| 03:21.24 | Genopath | oh i know what an array is lol |
| 03:21.32 | Genopath | its just im not sure how to do that |
| 03:21.39 | Genopath | im hoping someone can perhaps illuminate me |
| 03:21.43 | Kylegar | you would have to for loop through it |
| 03:21.44 | Bifuu | hmmm why isnt mymap working |
| 03:21.48 | AgentPaper | I've met people that can't handle variables >.> |
| 03:21.50 | Kylegar | General - For Each Integer |
| 03:21.58 | Zarol | Anyone know about bridges...? |
| 03:21.58 | buu | Kylegar: You know there's like 8500 pastebins |
| 03:22.00 | Gralamin | I wish there was dynamic memory allocation :( |
| 03:22.03 | wacko | lol |
| 03:22.04 | wacko | never |
| 03:22.08 | Genopath | can i use region arrays in Events? |
| 03:22.08 | wacko | it will never happen |
| 03:22.15 | Kylegar | buu yea, but only one with a chrome plugin |
| 03:22.25 | Kylegar | and I use it |
| 03:23.01 | buu | Kylegar: Haha, did you have to choose the worst one? |
| 03:23.02 | wacko | well you would need to know the value of x Genopath |
| 03:23.24 | Kylegar | shush |
| 03:23.28 | Genopath | hmmm |
| 03:23.29 | wacko | which you could not get unless you had some other trigger that set it |
| 03:23.31 | Kylegar | Genopath |
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| 03:23.42 | Kylegar | Action General - For Each Integer |
| 03:23.46 | Kylegar | loop through the size of the array |
| 03:23.48 | Sere_ | Lol, lame |
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| 03:24.06 | Genopath | well ok |
| 03:24.07 | Sere_ | "Mibbit is not allowed to conect to Freenode servers. Please try another client" |
| 03:24.13 | Gralamin | Thats stupid |
| 03:24.16 | warturtle | who had the question about multiple regions.. |
| 03:24.17 | Genopath | but how could I set the event |
| 03:24.22 | Genopath | me warturtle |
| 03:24.23 | warturtle | if they are all the same size.... |
| 03:24.25 | Genopath | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/423-regions-in-arrays/ |
| 03:24.31 | warturtle | you could run a loop that moves the same region |
| 03:24.31 | Sere-_- | Oh wow |
| 03:24.33 | GardenOfAiur | wtf battle.net = the gay |
| 03:24.36 | Bifuu | Anyone got a spare like 10 minutes? |
| 03:24.38 | warturtle | to all the different spaces |
| 03:24.40 | Sere-_- | So I'm on webchat.freenode.net right now |
| 03:24.45 | GardenOfAiur | sup bifuu? |
| 03:24.45 | Sere-_- | Apparently before I was on java.freenode.net |
| 03:24.46 | warturtle | and checks |
| 03:24.50 | Sere-_- | And Java doesn't support nick changes |
| 03:24.52 | Sere-_- | That's so budget |
| 03:25.05 | warturtle | you know what I mean? |
| 03:25.08 | Genopath | nope |
| 03:25.09 | Genopath | lol |
| 03:25.14 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ by Bifuu |
| 03:25.19 | warturtle | well are all the region sthe same size? |
| 03:25.21 | SBolt | anyone remember the old xwing v tiefighter games? |
| 03:25.24 | Genopath | well they should |
| 03:25.30 | Genopath | maybe not the exacty size |
| 03:25.32 | Bifuu | GardenOfAiur: CAn you follow that tutorial Repo linked and saee if the map works |
| 03:25.39 | Bifuu | saee = see |
| 03:25.40 | Acolyte1 | IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN PLAY A MAP MADE IN THE GALAXY EDITOR WITH A FRIEND? *death* |
| 03:25.41 | Genopath | but should be very accurrate |
| 03:25.51 | wacko | why does the size matter ? |
| 03:25.54 | warturtle | then you start off the region in spot 1, and do a loop that each iteration moves it to the right a certain distance |
| 03:25.59 | buu | Sere-_-: There's already someone named sere |
| 03:26.03 | warturtle | and run the check for that new region |
| 03:26.03 | buu | Sere-_-: If you haven't noticed. |
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| 03:26.05 | Kylegar | Acolyte1 you can't play multiplayer |
| 03:26.07 | Sere-_- | Yeah I noticed :D |
| 03:26.08 | Inschato | Yes Acolyte1, but you both have to have the cache files.. and uh.. I dunno after that :p |
| 03:26.09 | Kylegar | with custom maps |
| 03:26.21 | Genopath | okay but for starters |
| 03:26.26 | Sere-_- | I just wanted to get the #4 off my name :o |
| 03:26.27 | Genopath | how can I set the Event |
| 03:26.28 | Kylegar | you cant do it, because bnet needs to know about it |
| 03:26.33 | Acolyte1 | man.. |
| 03:26.33 | warturtle | basically you use 1 region, but move it each iteration to the next spot |
| 03:26.36 | Acolyte1 | i heard it was possible |
| 03:26.38 | Kylegar | and, well, 1st) bnet is not working |
| 03:26.47 | Kylegar | and 2nd) it wont know about a map on your hd |
| 03:26.52 | wacko | that is more costly than just itering all the regions |
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| 03:26.57 | buu | Kylegar: Hey, doy ou have any idea how to "issue order" "attack to point" ? |
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| 03:27.13 | GardenOfAiur | wtf isup with bnet |
| 03:27.16 | Kylegar | buu yea |
| 03:27.22 | Genopath | but is there a way |
| 03:27.25 | qwebirc74011 | hey guys, can anybody assist me with creating custom units? |
| 03:27.28 | Genopath | I can use a region array on Event? |
| 03:27.31 | Kylegar | click the ( when you create the Issue Order action |
| 03:27.31 | buu | Kylegar: Oh! |
| 03:27.35 | buu | Kylegar: I got it =] |
| 03:27.38 | Kylegar | and select Issue Order Target |
| 03:27.39 | Kylegar | yea |
| 03:27.43 | Kylegar | it's funky as fuck |
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| 03:28.03 | FrozenFirebat | Is the only event/condition that deals with calling variables the "between bounds" condition? |
| 03:28.18 | Teal | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/tutorials/ gives me a 404 not found error |
| 03:28.22 | FrozenFirebat | I can't find an event that looks at variables for the trigger starting conditions |
| 03:28.27 | wacko | yes Geno it could be done LOL |
| 03:28.37 | Kylegar | yea, shit is broken |
| 03:28.40 | Teal | oh, the page was moved |
| 03:28.50 | Kylegar | Teal i made a wiki page and it's 404ing me |
| 03:28.50 | Bifuu | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/ |
| 03:28.55 | Genopath | how would that work wacko |
| 03:29.01 | Inschato | Now I remember why I gave up trying to do anything for starcraft 1.. this shit is absurdly stir crazyifying |
| 03:29.35 | Inschato | I should have left this map alone, but nooo I had to go back and try futiley to make small improvements, and fail utterly at doing so |
| 03:29.55 | Rizaun | i created about 4 custom unitsby duplicating another one and just changing the stats, however, now it doesn't work anymore, every new unit that i duplicate doesn't do anything. It has a weapon, it has all it's command abilities enabled, it has all the command cards, but it just won't do anything =/ |
| 03:30.01 | Zarol | Is there any platform type object that units can walk on to say, get over a canyon... maybe like a bridge? |
| 03:30.27 | ^_________^Sere | Rizaun, there might be a limit to units available right now |
| 03:30.34 | Gralamin | Zarol: Don't think there is yet, but you might be able to fake one with Pathing. |
| 03:30.42 | ^_________^Sere | Like, when modding D2 once you made x amount of unit copies, you had to start replacing original units |
| 03:30.45 | Zarol | Ah but they fall down the hole |
| 03:30.49 | ^_________^Sere | Maybe they're limiting it in the beta |
| 03:31.03 | Rizaun | hmm |
| 03:31.04 | Sixen | Keep the tuts up :D |
| 03:31.07 | Sixen | I'm proud, Bif |
| 03:31.08 | Sixen | <3 |
| 03:31.10 | ^_________^Sere | Zarol, I made "bridges" in my map |
| 03:31.15 | Zarol | Really! |
| 03:31.21 | ^_________^Sere | They work for water crossings |
| 03:31.30 | Zarol | okay that'll do |
| 03:31.31 | Dremora_ | So how do you attach an actor to a unit? |
| 03:31.33 | Sixen | Ok |
| 03:31.37 | supman199 | Is there if/then/else for action? |
| 03:31.38 | Sixen | I'll be back. Going to dinner for my birthday. |
| 03:31.40 | wacko | it would work the way you would want it to work but I think we can come close |
| 03:31.52 | buu | ^_________^Sere: Did you have to choose the most obnoxious nick possible? |
| 03:31.55 | AngryAmish | anyone know how to use weapons that impact on the first target hit rather then the unit targeted? without hitting yourself? |
| 03:32.04 | ^_________^Sere | I tried to. Did I win? |
| 03:32.40 | Bifuu | Sixen: Better be taking your momma! |
| 03:32.46 | Zarol | ^_________^Sere may I know your secrets... |
| 03:33.17 | Sixen | :P |
| 03:33.21 | NoRoo | Has any one figured out how to ... uh for lack of a better term extend the default settings(projectile) unit? |
| 03:33.24 | ^_________^Sere | Once I figure out how to PM you, sure :D |
| 03:33.43 | Zarol | lol I forgot xD it's been awhile since I've been in an IRC |
| 03:33.51 | Bifuu | Fixed my issue, for some reason my map was trying to make the campaign a dependancy |
| 03:33.59 | BlueGhostie | use "/msg" |
| 03:34.15 | BlueGhostie | or if youre using mIRC you can double click their name in the list |
| 03:34.21 | Ziros | Anyone know how to pull the value of a units health? |
| 03:34.31 | buu | Kylegar: Hey, any idea how I can issue orders to multiple units? |
| 03:34.34 | buu | Kylegar: Say, every unit someone owns? |
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| 03:34.49 | Gralamin | buu |
| 03:34.54 | Gralamin | : I imagine you make a unit group |
| 03:35.01 | Gralamin | And do it that way. |
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| 03:35.02 | buu | Gralamin: Well, yes, that's the tricky part. |
| 03:35.03 | Ziros | Kylegar, put them in a unit group |
| 03:35.12 | buu | Ok, how do I put the units in a unit group =] |
| 03:35.16 | Kylegar | buu unit group |
| 03:35.24 | Kylegar | there is a function |
| 03:35.33 | Kylegar | Units in Region with Condition |
| 03:35.36 | Kylegar | or something like that |
| 03:35.37 | buu | ! |
| 03:35.42 | Kylegar | region being the entire map |
| 03:35.49 | Kylegar | condition being owned by player 1 |
| 03:35.54 | liq3 | buu: easily. :D |
| 03:35.59 | Kylegar | that would get all units in the map owned by player 1 |
| 03:36.11 | Kylegar | press buttons |
| 03:36.16 | Kylegar | good stuff |
| 03:36.17 | buu | Kylegar: In the function "Add (X) to Unit Group" ? |
| 03:36.23 | Kylegar | no |
| 03:36.27 | liq3 | buu: is it a one time order? |
| 03:36.31 | buu | liq3: Yes |
| 03:36.35 | liq3 | Then use uh. |
| 03:36.43 | Kylegar | liq3 you got it, working on my tutorial |
| 03:36.52 | Teal | Unit Group - Pick All Units in Unit Group and do: |
| 03:36.52 | liq3 | "Pick Each Unit In Unit Group" |
| 03:37.34 | Teal | Unit - Issue Order Targeting a Point |
| 03:37.38 | liq3 | The Issue Order to Picked Unit... and this is the tricky part. |
| 03:37.38 | buu | liq3: Oh! |
| 03:37.41 | buu | liq3: How random |
| 03:37.44 | liq3 | THE DAMN ( CAN BE CLICKED. |
| 03:37.50 | Kylegar | yea |
| 03:37.54 | Kylegar | that's unintuitive |
| 03:37.56 | liq3 | It's well hidden. :( |
| 03:38.00 | Kylegar | the function should be the clickable part |
| 03:38.04 | Kylegar | not the ( before the function |
| 03:38.30 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.34 | Bladezor | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/sixbrownsnakes2/Terrain003.jpg |
| 03:38.38 | PixelWarrior | heyy guys , is sc2 bnet updating? |
| 03:38.40 | Bladezor | That looks pretty sexy imo |
| 03:38.42 | zifoon | wait in trigger editor there is unit dmg another unit function? |
| 03:38.45 | Bladezor | How do you make cliffs like that? |
| 03:38.48 | zifoon | are they serious? |
| 03:38.59 | Teal | in the box above that part, you can double click on the "Order: Issue Order with No Target" |
| 03:39.04 | Teal | and it works the same as clicking the ( |
| 03:39.12 | Teal | a little more intuitive, although still assbackwards |
| 03:39.49 | liq3 | Bladezor: looks like doodas. |
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| 03:40.40 | buu | liq3: Hrm, that's not working for me |
| 03:40.47 | liq3 | hrm. |
| 03:40.49 | buu | liq3: I suspect it's because the "unit of type" isn't set.. |
| 03:40.49 | DarkIce | Trying to add a weapon unit to a turret structure ( also a unit) can't seem to find where to link the two units together |
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| 03:41.03 | liq3 | buu: it's weird that it's written like that. :/ |
| 03:41.17 | liq3 | can you select your "pick unit" bit and screenshot it? |
| 03:41.23 | Teal | i want to make a Siege Tank with a Dropship mounted on it and Marines poking out the sides of it |
| 03:41.23 | ANdyBear22 | How can I remove no building pathing with a trigger? |
| 03:41.30 | Teal | an Uberstank, if you will |
| 03:41.34 | Skizot | hmmm |
| 03:41.38 | Teal | however, i don't have a .pdf viewer to read the tutorial |
| 03:41.50 | NoRoo | Hooray! I bound (model) VikingFighterWeeapon to (actor) GenericAttackMissile |
| 03:41.51 | NoRoo | now what |
| 03:41.54 | zifoon | anyone know how to do a unit dmg an area in the tirgger editor? |
| 03:41.56 | buu | liq3: I have a better way! |
| 03:42.07 | liq3 | ok |
| 03:42.08 | liq3 | lol. |
| 03:42.17 | zifoon | trigger* |
| 03:42.19 | Inschato | G'dangit, I simplified my triggers and now they don't work at all |
| 03:42.21 | Bladezor | Does anyone else get that annoying blinking bug in SC2? |
| 03:42.31 | Bladezor | Like blinking black |
| 03:43.04 | buu | liq3: OMG YES |
| 03:43.07 | buu | liq3: =] |
| 03:43.07 | ANdyBear22 | Is there anyway to add or remove pathing via triggers? |
| 03:43.13 | liq3 | ? |
| 03:43.24 | buu | liq3: It works! |
| 03:43.27 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ by Bifuu |
| 03:43.30 | liq3 | :D |
| 03:43.41 | zifoon | it's either the triggers are missing a lot of functions or Blizzard is a evil corporation |
| 03:43.45 | zifoon | an* |
| 03:43.55 | Razernok | why won't move, patrol, hold, and stimpak show up on the command card of my copied marine? |
| 03:44.06 | warturtle | sort of andybear.. you could build some type of invisible/invincible/untargetable structure on the spot or something |
| 03:44.19 | warturtle | so nothing can pass/be build on it |
| 03:44.30 | Bifuu | Razernok: i had that happen to me once, i dunno why |
| 03:44.38 | Bifuu | Did you duplicate the MArine? |
| 03:44.46 | Razernok | yea |
| 03:44.55 | ANdyBear22 | I guess, thats a bit awkward. I would think theres a way to just remove the pathing... |
| 03:45.05 | Razernok | but all the command card except stop and attack don't show up |
| 03:45.05 | Bifuu | id suggest making a new one but choosing to copy information from the MArine |
| 03:45.18 | Bifuu | instead of Duplicating |
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| 03:45.40 | Bifuu | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/sc2-api/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/creating-your/ will show you my way of doing it |
| 03:46.07 | Teal | so... looking at the data editor for bunkers, is it possible/feasible to stick Hydralisks into Bunkers? |
| 03:46.13 | NoRoo | Bifuu: is there a link for creating generic projectiles? |
| 03:46.17 | NoRoo | plz plz plz |
| 03:46.24 | zifoon | yes u can put hydras in it |
| 03:46.26 | zifoon | =_= |
| 03:46.27 | Bifuu | NoRoo: ive told you twice already |
| 03:46.34 | Teal | without editing any data? |
| 03:46.36 | Bifuu | Theres something dealign with that in Weapons |
| 03:46.44 | Teal | we need to have some hydunkers |
| 03:46.59 | liq3 | You could probably put broodlords in bunkers. |
| 03:46.59 | liq3 | :D |
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| 03:47.04 | Bifuu | "Pathing Ammo Unit" |
| 03:47.15 | Teal | i dunno, what's the cargo size of broodlords/mutes? |
| 03:47.16 | zifoon | Bifuu, you know a trigger function that does make unit damage another unit? |
| 03:47.17 | Wanderrful | don't worry guys, i'm touching myself over this editor as well |
| 03:47.20 | Bifuu | Thast the best i can do to help |
| 03:47.34 | Bifuu | zifoon: i havent gotten to mess with Triggers yet |
| 03:47.35 | NoRoo | pathing ammo unit is of the type unit? looking now |
| 03:47.40 | NoRoo | bifuu: sorry must have missed it |
| 03:47.47 | Gralamin | So, say I wanted to Take the Broodlord and fire Banelings. But when the Banelings explode (or die) they spawn a bunch of Broodlings (OP Yes). How hard would that be to do? |
| 03:47.50 | zifoon | Bifuu, dang u r only far as me |
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| 03:48.05 | BlueGhostie | Hey, anyone have any ideas on how you would use a warp-in animation to show units teleporting from 1 region to another? |
| 03:48.06 | zifoon | there are alot of useful functions missing |
| 03:48.07 | zifoon | T_T |
| 03:48.13 | Bifuu | im sure its there somewhere |
| 03:48.17 | Bifuu | if not you can make your own |
| 03:48.21 | Wanderrful | [Question] Has anyone heard of any kind of tutorial that has been thrown together yet or are we still on our own? |
| 03:48.26 | zifoon | yeah it seems like I have ot |
| 03:48.26 | Bifuu | again dont ask how, havnt messsed with it |
| 03:48.27 | zifoon | to* |
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| 03:48.44 | Wanderrful | dsa |
| 03:48.46 | Bifuu | Wanderrful: I made one http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/sc2-api/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/ |
| 03:48.57 | NoRoo | bifuu: I'm not finding anything in the editor called that |
| 03:48.58 | Ziros | Is it possible to pull a units current health as a variable? |
| 03:49.01 | liq3 | The only requirement for bunkers is bio... o.o |
| 03:49.02 | liq3 | ooohhhhh. |
| 03:49.14 | zifoon | Bifuu, do you know how to make a damage of spells be based on attribute (custom behavior)? |
| 03:49.16 | warturtle | yeah you might be able to make projectiles using things like heat seaking missile, but you can't use it for anything you might want to |
| 03:49.17 | supman199 | hmm, destroy timerwindow doesn't work |
| 03:49.24 | Gralamin | Hmmm, Maybe I could implement Dynamic memory, thinking about it. Though it'd be slow and costly. |
| 03:49.39 | Galois-evariste | very nice of you Bifuu - thanks a bunch man |
| 03:49.46 | wacko | there is a reason why its not there Gralamin |
| 03:49.57 | MadMissileMan | I'd like to see a community wiki go up. |
| 03:50.02 | Bifuu | NoRoo: http://i39.tinypic.com/71hftt.png |
| 03:50.02 | Gralamin | wacko: What reason? |
| 03:50.11 | buu | Gralamin: Is there a trigger someplace that adds minerals? |
| 03:50.14 | Inschato | The "Within Bounds" condition is not working for me at all -_- |
| 03:50.20 | Gralamin | buu: Player property I think |
| 03:50.25 | GardenOfAiur | whats up with bnet? |
| 03:50.30 | Gralamin | Edit Player Property or whatever. |
| 03:50.32 | buu | Gralamin: Danke |
| 03:50.34 | Bifuu | zifoon: again havnt looked at that but im about to soon |
| 03:50.51 | NoRoo | bifuu: oh it's a field, okay let me explore that for a moment |
| 03:50.53 | NoRoo | thanks |
| 03:51.02 | zifoon | yeah I finished looking through all the data editor and triggers |
| 03:51.21 | Bifuu | i have only been looking at select things for some tutorials to help people |
| 03:51.27 | Bifuu | i havnt been able to have my fun yet lol |
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| 03:51.52 | zifoon | so far I made a hero with stats and custom abilities |
| 03:51.55 | liq3 | Hrm getting hydras in was easy... BRoodlords... |
| 03:52.09 | zifoon | I hate the new leveling stuff, there is no auto scaling |
| 03:52.23 | Teal | about heroes - are you required to go through the behaviour for every level and set all the data for every single level every single time...? |
| 03:52.27 | zifoon | more flexible, but will take much longer |
| 03:52.38 | zifoon | Teal, sorta but it's not that bad |
| 03:52.56 | Gralamin | I wonder if there is something in the Trigger editor for the heroes, that'd let you do it by script. |
| 03:52.57 | Teal | i had my dude level up, he gained 10 max shield but lost his attack and move capability |
| 03:52.58 | zifoon | I'm sure Blizzard will make a scaling system in the future |
| 03:53.16 | zifoon | Triggers do not have hero functions |
| 03:53.37 | zifoon | I supposed we need the community to make functions |
| 03:53.58 | Kylegar | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/425-trigger-3rd-person-movement/ |
| 03:54.00 | Sholdak | zifoon: you can set a multiplier for all spell dmg per lvl |
| 03:54.05 | Kylegar | updated my tut with basic movement |
| 03:54.07 | Sholdak | in the attribute |
| 03:54.15 | Kylegar | working on the attack part right now |
| 03:54.18 | zifoon | that's not what I meant though |
| 03:54.21 | liq3 | Teal; there's a whole bunch of multipliers you gotta set to 1. |
| 03:54.31 | Kylegar | but, if you want basic 3rd person movement right naow, there it is |
| 03:54.39 | liq3 | or it does silly stuff like making the unit act at 1/100th speed. |
| 03:54.42 | zifoon | we mean exprience and stuff |
| 03:54.47 | zifoon | we have to manually type |
| 03:55.00 | zifoon | experience* |
| 03:55.05 | zifoon | and attributes |
| 03:55.12 | zifoon | it's quite annoying |
| 03:55.16 | liq3 | There's about 12 variables to get leveling working decently. |
| 03:55.25 | liq3 | i.e. not make the unit do nothing. |
| 03:55.32 | Teal | do i have to set that for every level? |
| 03:55.34 | McLovin|Truhan | o.O |
| 03:55.38 | liq3 | Don't think so. |
| 03:55.40 | Teal | or am i able to just set it to one and then duplicate that level? |
| 03:55.45 | AngryAmish | anyone have a way to fire an attack and have it damage the first thing it hits, without damaging yourself? |
| 03:55.45 | liq3 | Mine had like 5, he hit level 4, and I only set them once. |
| 03:55.57 | liq3 | Worked fine (altho his level 1 damage bonus seemed to go away). |
| 03:56.05 | liq3 | Or I think it did anyway, not sure. :/ |
| 03:56.42 | Kylegar | lol |
| 03:56.47 | Bladezor | How do you change the camera angle in the editor? |
| 03:56.48 | Kylegar | I did something while making the tutorial |
| 03:56.55 | Bladezor | I'd like it top down when working on a map |
| 03:56.59 | Kylegar | and the 3rd person camrea is better than what I had |
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| 03:57.27 | Labmonkey2 | hey guys |
| 03:57.31 | McLovin|Truhan | hay labby |
| 03:57.35 | Bladezor | and snap to grid isn't working with terrain :( |
| 03:57.40 | Labmonkey2 | how do you place an item on the map |
| 03:57.42 | Labmonkey2 | I've made a bunch |
| 03:57.44 | Gralamin | Bladezor: Hold down... Control I think, and use the right mouse button' |
| 03:57.50 | Labmonkey2 | but I can't access them from anywhere |
| 03:57.54 | Labmonkey2 | they don't show up in any list |
| 03:58.00 | Bladezor | Gralamin that worked. Thanks :) |
| 03:58.00 | Terin | Is there some way to increase the speed from normal from launching a map? |
| 03:58.06 | Labmonkey2 | yea |
| 03:58.06 | Terin | Using + and - doesn't work any more. |
| 03:58.06 | Labmonkey2 | terin |
| 03:58.08 | Labmonkey2 | there is code |
| 03:58.13 | Labmonkey2 | you can set the game speed |
| 03:58.15 | Labmonkey2 | on map init |
| 03:58.16 | Sholdak | for the person asking about unit life |
| 03:58.17 | Sholdak | native int UnitGetPropertyInt (unit inUnit, int inProp, bool inCurrent); |
| 03:58.17 | Labmonkey2 | and then lock it |
| 03:58.28 | Dustin | For setting shit |
| 03:58.28 | Sholdak | const int c_unitPropLife = 0; |
| 03:58.36 | Sholdak | doesnt look like there's a gui function for it :/ |
| 03:58.38 | Dustin | Use time Elapsed = .01 game Seconds |
| 03:58.39 | Terin | Ah, there we go. |
| 03:58.51 | Gralamin | File -> Preferences -> Test document -> Game Speed: Faster |
| 03:58.54 | zifoon | there is GUI function for unit life |
| 03:58.57 | Gralamin | No need for code.\ |
| 03:59.10 | zifoon | set unitproperty in GUI |
| 03:59.20 | Sholdak | that's for setting |
| 03:59.23 | zifoon | it has max hp and current hp etc |
| 03:59.24 | Sholdak | not getting the current value |
| 03:59.25 | Furyhunter | Does anyone have any examples for a 3rd person movement system? |
| 03:59.33 | Furyhunter | I'm trying to make a racer out of the hellion :o |
| 03:59.33 | Labmonkey2 | guys |
| 03:59.39 | Labmonkey2 | does anybody know how to place items on the map? |
| 03:59.42 | Labmonkey2 | mine aren't appearing |
| 04:00.01 | Terin | Doing Test Document just launches the game, Gralamin. |
| 04:00.02 | Dustin | did u give them models |
| 04:00.10 | Labmonkey2 | they don't appear |
| 04:00.10 | Sholdak | actually it looks like all the unitget functions are missing :/ |
| 04:00.13 | Labmonkey2 | in the search thing |
| 04:00.20 | Labmonkey2 | I can't get to them in the item placer thing |
| 04:00.24 | Labmonkey2 | they don't show up |
| 04:00.27 | zifoon | a lot of functions are missing |
| 04:00.31 | Gralamin | Terin: No, follow the full command |
| 04:00.34 | Gralamin | File -> Prefences |
| 04:00.40 | Gralamin | Choose Test document on the left side |
| 04:00.41 | Terin | Oh, I see. |
| 04:00.41 | ^_________^Sere | Amazes me how unnecessarily complicated some of this editing is... like heroes. |
| 04:00.43 | Gralamin | Go to game speed |
| 04:01.13 | Furyhunter | It weeds out badly put together maps and encourages high quality, polished ones ^_________^Sere |
| 04:01.18 | Crazafied | <zifoon> make a integer then do Set "INTEGER" = (Integer(((Last crated unit) Life (Current)))) its gui |
| 04:01.25 | warturtle | there is an event trigger on level up to do any extra work |
| 04:01.27 | Sapph | I'm sure Blizzard will try to streamline some of the more "common" desired functionality (like heroes) before release |
| 04:01.53 | warturtle | does anyone have a basic map with heroes? or tut/guide |
| 04:02.41 | zifoon | Crazafied, that's what I was talking about |
| 04:02.52 | supman199 | is there a starting location, similar to wc3? |
| 04:02.53 | wacko | Sholdak |
| 04:02.54 | Terin | Any way to run in windowed fullscreen on launch, then? |
| 04:02.56 | Crazafied | <warturtle> http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ |
| 04:02.58 | wacko | it is in the UI |
| 04:03.00 | zifoon | but he wanted to know how to retrieve the current hp data |
| 04:03.01 | Terin | Yes, go to POints, supman. |
| 04:03.08 | wacko | the thing is those are functions you are listing not actions |
| 04:03.13 | wacko | which means to get say the unit life |
| 04:03.19 | wacko | you need to use the set var action |
| 04:03.26 | wacko | and then point it to the function you named above |
| 04:03.48 | Sholdak | oh haha, blizzard added semaphores |
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| 04:03.56 | Sholdak | except they call them CriticalSection |
| 04:04.36 | zifoon | ok I got how to add more spell dmg with attribute |
| 04:04.48 | zifoon | it's just in the data editor =_= |
| 04:05.07 | qwebirc24858 | I'm just looking to work on a melee map, is it possible to get the AI to work for a test? |
| 04:05.14 | Sholdak | wacko: what i listed was just the galaxy script native, you can use those in native script |
| 04:05.17 | Sholdak | to do whatever |
| 04:05.19 | qwebirc24858 | Also, is it possible to actually play the map online with friends yet? |
| 04:05.20 | supman199 | umm how do I change the starting camera to the starting location? |
| 04:05.21 | zifoon | but I still want unit causes unit x dmg function T_T |
| 04:05.25 | supman199 | instead of at bottom right |
| 04:05.30 | wacko | you can also use them in the trigger editor as well |
| 04:05.31 | Kylegar | qwebirc11019 no you can't |
| 04:05.44 | zifoon | yes u can |
| 04:05.44 | Kylegar | someone needs to put that in big letters in the topic |
| 04:05.45 | zifoon | O_O |
| 04:05.46 | qwebirc24858 | What about playing online with friends? |
| 04:05.48 | ^_________^Sere | qwebirc24858: AI doesn't work unless you make your own custom. |
| 04:05.49 | zifoon | there is a post about it |
| 04:05.57 | Kylegar | 1st bnet is down |
| 04:06.09 | warturtle | btw anyone here want to team up to make a really good map before publishing starts? |
| 04:06.12 | Kylegar | or atleast it has been for a while |
| 04:06.16 | zifoon | there is a post in the forums, how to play custom maps online |
| 04:06.21 | Kylegar | link |
| 04:06.22 | qwebirc24858 | sounds good |
| 04:06.37 | Galois-evariste | zifoon -- the sc2mapster forums or the sc2b forums? |
| 04:06.41 | Galois-evariste | ¥â |
| 04:06.46 | qwebirc24858 | Also, I'm new to IRC stuff, how would I go about changing my name? |
| 04:06.52 | Galois-evariste | say /nick nicknamehere |
| 04:06.57 | _ | shit |
| 04:07.00 | Galois-evariste | aww |
| 04:07.01 | Kylegar | type /nick <name> |
| 04:07.02 | zifoon | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/344-play-custom-maps-on-official-battle-net-custom-games/#p7 |
| 04:07.02 | Kylegar | hahaha |
| 04:07.02 | Radaka | there we go |
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| 04:07.05 | zifoon | there u go |
| 04:07.08 | Radaka | Thanks zifoon :) |
| 04:07.22 | zifoon | but bnet is down currently |
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| 04:07.28 | Kylegar | oh |
| 04:07.34 | Kylegar | you have to rename a map that already exists |
| 04:07.38 | Kylegar | gawt it |
| 04:07.39 | zifoon | yep |
| 04:07.40 | zifoon | rofl |
| 04:07.57 | Kylegar | that gets around point 2) Bnet needs to know the map exists |
| 04:07.59 | zifoon | but u both have to have to same map renamed |
| 04:08.23 | Radaka | I think I'll stick around this community |
| 04:08.32 | zifoon | yes community of nerds |
| 04:08.32 | Radaka | new to Blizzard games though |
| 04:08.42 | Radaka | I've been mapping for TF2 for a long time |
| 04:08.42 | Kylegar | well |
| 04:08.43 | ^_________^Sere | Radaka, what if we don't want you?! |
| 04:08.47 | AngryAmish | anyone have a way to fire an attack and have it damage the first thing it hits, without damaging yourself? |
| 04:08.50 | Radaka | :[ |
| 04:08.52 | Kylegar | wait until the dota crew shows up |
| 04:08.57 | Kylegar | and pisses all over the bushes |
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| 04:09.13 | ^_________^Sere | DOTA won't be popular in sc2 |
| 04:09.16 | Kylegar | also, Source crew checkin in...I program for a Source mod |
| 04:09.24 | zifoon | I reckon AoS will be pop in sc2 |
| 04:09.24 | Sholdak | zifoon : best i can find is native void UnitCreateEffectUnit (unit inUnit, string inEffect, unit inTarget) |
| 04:09.29 | ^_________^Sere | AoS probably will |
| 04:09.33 | Sholdak | so you the effect would dmg the other unit |
| 04:09.35 | Gralamin | I hope DoTA won't be popular in SC2. |
| 04:09.35 | Ziros | Is it possible to disable mouse functionality? Like disabling click to move and selection. |
| 04:09.37 | Sholdak | the* |
| 04:09.41 | zifoon | thx sholdak |
| 04:09.43 | zlefin | sorry i got disced if someone answered my question |
| 04:09.56 | Kylegar | hehehe |
| 04:09.57 | Sapph | maybe Blizzard made heroes so complicated to delay DotA clones ;) |
| 04:10.12 | Kylegar | they made heroes complicated so they can be fucking awesome |
| 04:10.15 | ^_________^Sere | zlefin: I didn't see a question :o |
| 04:10.15 | zifoon | though that will defeat the purpose since I wanted make mana void skill (anti-mage's ulti) |
| 04:10.26 | ANdyBear22 | How do you make a command center not move away from minerals? |
| 04:10.28 | zlefin | my question was if htere's a list of what each ability type does exactly |
| 04:10.43 | Sapph | all I know is that it took me 10 seconds to replace an archon's attack with rapid fire yamato cannons |
| 04:10.44 | Sapph | and it made me happy |
| 04:10.53 | ^_________^Sere | Define "Ability type" |
| 04:10.55 | zifoon | but createffectunit will do~ |
| 04:11.03 | zlefin | the abilitiy types in teh ability editor |
| 04:11.19 | zifoon | hero isn't complicated |
| 04:11.21 | ^_________^Sere | Oh, I didn't even know there was an ability editor so I can't help you there :P |
| 04:11.23 | zlefin | when you modify one, or maek a new one, you can choose an ability type |
| 04:11.34 | ^_________^Sere | What are some of the types it lists? |
| 04:11.37 | zlefin | i'm trying to figure out what to use for what i'm trying |
| 04:11.44 | zlefin | morphs, attack, research, train, build |
| 04:11.54 | zlefin | there's a whole lot of 'em, but it's hard to find one that does exactly what i'm looking for |
| 04:11.58 | Sholdak | if you are trying to do something with mana |
| 04:12.01 | zifoon | but some galaxy stuff are bugged, u can only have 0 STR 0 AGI 0 INT for level 1 and can't change it |
| 04:12.02 | Sholdak | start with feedback? |
| 04:12.07 | zlefin | and there's several types which exist, but aren't on anything in the game, so you can't tell what they're for |
| 04:12.10 | zifoon | from lvl 2 u can modify it |
| 04:12.13 | zifoon | no idea why |
| 04:12.50 | ^_________^Sere | What are they listed under? I don't see any of those |
| 04:13.16 | ^_________^Sere | Nevermind I see it I think. Combat? |
| 04:13.27 | ^_________^Sere | CActivity, etc. |
| 04:13.55 | zlefin | i'm in the data editor, data type abilities |
| 04:14.03 | Bladezor | http://www.livestream.com/i_suck_at_sc2 |
| 04:14.11 | Bladezor | You can watch me fail at mapping :P |
| 04:14.29 | Kylegar | Bladezor follow my tutorial :P |
| 04:14.34 | qwebirc57419 | hmm |
| 04:14.39 | Kylegar | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/425-trigger-3rd-person-movement/ |
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| 04:15.16 | ^_________^Sere | zlefin, what are you trying to make your ability do? |
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| 04:15.37 | Gralamin | Just a question: How many people here have multiple monitors to edit with? I'm finding having two (Three when I add my laptop as a monitor) is quite useful. |
| 04:15.56 | Skizot | hmmm |
| 04:15.59 | ^_________^Sere | My comp doesn't have a video card so I'm afraid to hook up more monitors right now :( |
| 04:16.03 | Skizot | so i have CORRECT mouselook working. |
| 04:16.07 | Kylegar | yo |
| 04:16.08 | Skizot | but... |
| 04:16.11 | Kylegar | double monitor is awesome |
| 04:16.12 | zifoon | I got my pc linked to 50 inch tv |
| 04:16.14 | zifoon | ^_^ |
| 04:16.16 | Skizot | it's not smooth |
| 04:16.19 | Gralamin | Nice. |
| 04:16.21 | zlefin | i'm trying to make an ability which improves the spawnrate of a hatchery, and can be procured multiple timesl; it only effects the hatchery its made at |
| 04:16.27 | zlefin | and i'd like it to use the queue |
| 04:16.27 | Kylegar | Skizot http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/425-trigger-3rd-person-movement/ |
| 04:16.30 | Kylegar | it's smooth |
| 04:16.31 | Acolyte1 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ |
| 04:16.32 | ^_________^Sere | I should load this on my HTPC and run it on my 60 inch |
| 04:16.32 | Kylegar | trust me |
| 04:16.33 | Kylegar | it works awesome |
| 04:16.36 | ^_________^Sere | That would be so awesome for mapping |
| 04:16.43 | ^_________^Sere | And that comp's video card is better than this one's, too |
| 04:16.43 | Acolyte1 | how come this tutorial- http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ ends halfway |
| 04:16.54 | Gralamin | Try refreshing |
| 04:17.02 | ^_________^Sere | zlefin, one sec |
| 04:17.02 | Bifuu | its not done |
| 04:17.31 | FrozenFirebat | OMG this is so annoying... I just want an event that verifies the value of an integer or boolean. |
| 04:17.44 | ANdyBear22 | How come lower cliff lowers it by 2 and not by 1? |
| 04:17.50 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: verifies? |
| 04:18.12 | zifoon | condition? |
| 04:18.16 | ^_________^Sere | zlefin, I'm about to go to bed so I can't really look into it myself but... have you looked at the Chrono Boost data yet? |
| 04:18.16 | Inschato | You mean like "If x = 1" run the event? |
| 04:18.23 | FrozenFirebat | yeah... Say I want an event that says that this trigger will activate when "ExampleVariable" = 1 |
| 04:18.31 | FrozenFirebat | yeah inschato |
| 04:18.31 | ^_________^Sere | You can probably make a new unit and attach Chrono Boost to it |
| 04:18.32 | zifoon | just use condition |
| 04:18.36 | zlefin | yeah, chrono boost is a unit target effect |
| 04:18.40 | liq3 | You need some sort of loop, and put in a condition afiak. |
| 04:18.42 | ^_________^Sere | So everytime you build that unit in the queue, it chrono boosts the hatchery after |
| 04:18.45 | zlefin | runs like a spell, which isn't really what i'm looking for |
| 04:18.49 | Bladezor | lol Kylegar I'm just doing basic map geometry right now |
| 04:18.51 | ^_________^Sere | You should be able to change it though |
| 04:18.51 | Inschato | You don't need a loop, just use comparason |
| 04:18.54 | ^_________^Sere | If you make a copy of it |
| 04:18.59 | zlefin | i'm trying to find the right way to do it, with as little of a hack as possible |
| 04:19.05 | liq3 | Inschato: that actually works? |
| 04:19.06 | liq3 | :/ |
| 04:19.09 | Inschato | Yes. |
| 04:19.12 | zlefin | hmmm, i'll have to check into that |
| 04:19.15 | liq3 | tests |
| 04:19.16 | zlefin | i'll see what i can come up with |
| 04:19.41 | NoRoo | ffs I still cannot get this shit to work |
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| 04:19.57 | Inschato | Value 1: Your variable Operator: = Value 2: What your variable should be for the event to run |
| 04:20.06 | NoRoo | what exactly was "pathing ammo unit" supposed to do? setting anything for that field seems to just make the unit not attack any more |
| 04:20.34 | FrozenFirebat | Comparison conditions only seem to link to units |
| 04:20.48 | ANdyBear22 | How come Lower cliff lowers it by 2, while Raise cliff raises it by 1? |
| 04:20.52 | NoRoo | FrozenFirebat: : click on the left ( that starts the condition |
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| 04:20.54 | Inschato | You can change it if you double click on value 1 :/ |
| 04:20.58 | NoRoo | FrozenFirebat: : and change it to a value |
| 04:21.09 | Inschato | or w/e |
| 04:21.14 | Inschato | But yeah. So flexible |
| 04:21.37 | Radaka | Working on creating a symmetrical 1v1 melee map, how the heck are you supposed to: A. Center the map, and B. Mirror it? |
| 04:22.01 | liq3 | Condition only DOES NOT APPEAR TO WORK. :/ |
| 04:22.12 | NoRoo | condition works correctly |
| 04:22.18 | liq3 | ... |
| 04:22.41 | liq3 | you guys are doing a condition with no evenT? |
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| 04:22.58 | NoRoo | if you have a condition and no event, the trigger will never check the conditions |
| 04:23.08 | zifoon | Bifuu, have u figured out how to make hero's attribute not to start at 0? I remember this problem from when the hero was first added in patch 8ish |
| 04:23.08 | NoRoo | you need to subscribe to an event for the conditions to be checked |
| 04:23.27 | liq3 | NoRoo: this is what I said. |
| 04:23.34 | liq3 | Keep up to chat please. : |
| 04:23.35 | liq3 | :P |
| 04:23.42 | ^_________^Sere | Couldn't you just add a trigger effect to the one that spawns the hero, setting it's attribute to x? |
| 04:23.49 | liq3 | Inschato was saying an event wasn't needed. |
| 04:23.55 | Radaka | Is there a way to mirror things in the X/Y direction? |
| 04:24.01 | ^_________^Sere | Copy/Paste |
| 04:24.01 | zifoon | that's cheating |
| 04:24.03 | NoRoo | liq3: the way you said it made it look like you were asking :< |
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| 04:24.09 | zifoon | -_+ |
| 04:24.13 | ^_________^Sere | Nothing is cheating! |
| 04:24.20 | Radaka | i know copy paste, but how do you do it perfectly about the center of the map? |
| 04:24.21 | zifoon | cheating is cheating! |
| 04:24.28 | Inschato | What's the point of having a condition without an event ~_~ |
| 04:24.29 | zifoon | besides I don't think there is function for it right now |
| 04:24.42 | ^_________^Sere | I dunno Radaka. I've only done melee maps so far and don't really need a mirror for those |
| 04:24.47 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat wants to do like "if mins > 100, do actions" |
| 04:25.04 | Radaka | bummers |
| 04:25.11 | Radaka | thanks for the help anyway though |
| 04:25.14 | Inschato | Yes, so do actionis would be the event |
| 04:25.15 | Radaka | i'll keep working at it |
| 04:25.16 | ^_________^Sere | I was looking for some coordinate thing... |
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| 04:25.21 | BlueGhostie | hey, is bnet down? |
| 04:25.25 | ^_________^Sere | But I saw nothing to center your view on x coordinates in the editor :/ |
| 04:25.35 | liq3 | Inschato: *facepalm* |
| 04:25.48 | NoRoo | FrozenFirebat: subscribe to "map initialization" and move the conditions to a while loop under actions. Make sure to include a wait period or the trigger will fail at run time (busy loop) |
| 04:25.50 | liq3 | Do actions is NOT an event. |
| 04:25.54 | ^_________^Sere | Seems kinda stupid to me that this supposedly awesome editor in 2010 doesn't have coordinate functions, unless I just can't see them |
| 04:26.08 | Inschato | Do actions is just.. I think you've lost me ~_~ |
| 04:26.10 | Radaka | the best i've been able to figure out so far is in the bottom left of the editor |
| 04:26.10 | liq3 | Or just use a periodic timer. |
| 04:26.16 | zifoon | I think the functions are incomplete |
| 04:26.23 | zifoon | this is beta after all |
| 04:26.35 | Radaka | sure it is, but how do they do it then? D: |
| 04:26.39 | Inschato | By the way, there's also the "IfThenElse" function for inside of event comparasons |
| 04:26.41 | AngryAmish | Inschato: you need something to initiate the action, and "do actions" isn't it |
| 04:26.52 | AngryAmish | an event needs to happen to start an action |
| 04:26.55 | Inschato | Ooooh right, yeah.. periodic timer |
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| 04:26.57 | ^_________^Sere | Radaka, you could use those... it would just be annoying |
| 04:26.57 | zifoon | they got a full working editor |
| 04:26.59 | zifoon | ^_________^ |
| 04:27.14 | AngryAmish | if you want the actions to occur every x seconds, yes |
| 04:27.15 | SevenSeven | what's this about a full working editor? |
| 04:27.21 | Radaka | yeah, it'd be very annoying, but unfortunately it's the only method i see so far |
| 04:27.26 | ^_________^Sere | Just take whatever size your map is, and drag+select over to half the length |
| 04:27.39 | Radaka | and forgive my noobishness, but how are you making your name red on some messages? |
| 04:27.40 | ^_________^Sere | Really don't know why they don't have a command to do that, though |
| 04:27.50 | ^_________^Sere | Radaka dsfksdfksdfsdfsd |
| 04:27.51 | ^_________^Sere | dsfksdfksd |
| 04:27.54 | liq3 | Radaka: he's probably saying your name Razernok |
| 04:27.56 | Radaka | ah! |
| 04:27.58 | liq3 | WHOOPS. |
| 04:28.01 | Sapph | Radaka, it's when someone says your name :) |
| 04:28.07 | Radaka | never used IRC before |
| 04:28.08 | liq3 | Yeh radaka. |
| 04:28.08 | ^_________^Sere | Everyone spam Radaka |
| 04:28.09 | Sapph | to grab your attention |
| 04:28.13 | liq3 | Everyone knows that! Radaka |
| 04:28.19 | Radaka | and i've been on teh interwebz for LOOOONG ass time |
| 04:28.24 | Radaka | brb getting snacks |
| 04:28.28 | liq3 | Really Radaka? |
| 04:28.30 | Sapph | depending on your client you should beable to configure it to highlight on other keywords, too |
| 04:28.33 | Radaka | nice to meet you all btw |
| 04:28.36 | ^_________^Sere | God, I wish I could get this Fog doodad to work. Radaka |
| 04:28.53 | liq3 | maybe if we keep saying radaka's name it'll work. o.o |
| 04:28.54 | ^_________^Sere | It's so annoying not being able to set up weather effects to finish my map >.< Radaka |
| 04:29.10 | Sapph | I'm trying really hard to not be overwhelmed by the data editor |
| 04:29.32 | ^_________^Sere | The data editor is soooo, what's the word... they should've made a UI for it. Radaka |
| 04:29.35 | ANdyBear22 | how are you suppose to mirror maps... I know how to copy terrian but how do I ... flip it? |
| 04:29.40 | CrackingWise | data editor is the least overwhelming part |
| 04:29.48 | Gralamin | Try using Control and dragging left click? |
| 04:29.52 | Gralamin | I'm guessing here |
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| 04:29.54 | ^_________^Sere | Andybear22 Drag+Select > Copy+Paste. Radaka |
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| 04:29.58 | liq3 | ANdyBear22: could try rotating the camera mabye. |
| 04:30.01 | Skizot | CHUCK YEAH |
| 04:30.11 | CrackingWise | trying to get the cameras to play nice |
| 04:30.11 | ANdyBear22 | Rotating camera does not work |
| 04:30.16 | CrackingWise | now that's overwhelming |
| 04:30.18 | NoRoo | I am still tripping balls on these projectiles.. |
| 04:30.21 | ANdyBear22 | it still copys positioning |
| 04:30.27 | Apes | Has Blizzard released any documentation on the SC2 Map Editor? |
| 04:30.32 | ANdyBear22 | Im trying to make it do a 180, so its mirrored |
| 04:30.41 | Inschato | ANdyBear22 Edit -> Flip/Nudge/Rotate |
| 04:30.47 | liq3 | nevermind rotating doesn't work. :( |
| 04:30.49 | Inschato | Flip is the one you want |
| 04:31.08 | liq3 | :o |
| 04:31.10 | liq3 | you can flip it. |
| 04:31.15 | liq3 | that's pretty awesome. |
| 04:31.16 | ANdyBear22 | That works perfectly Inschato, thanks! |
| 04:31.28 | liq3 | So, blizzard DOES have a mirror feature... it's just secret. |
| 04:31.29 | liq3 | :P |
| 04:31.30 | Inschato | It works for units too so if you want to make sure the mineral lines are all the same (but mirrored etc) |
| 04:31.35 | Bladezor | how do you rotate doodads? |
| 04:31.38 | Inschato | it doesn't work perfectly |
| 04:31.41 | ANdyBear22 | TyTy!! ^_^ |
| 04:31.48 | CrackingWise | select |
| 04:31.49 | CrackingWise | enter |
| 04:31.52 | CrackingWise | choose rotation |
| 04:31.58 | ANdyBear22 | Is there anyway to figure out the center of a map without counting grids? |
| 04:32.17 | CrackingWise | xyz coordinates |
| 04:32.18 | ^_________^Sere | Use the coordinates in the lower left |
| 04:32.27 | Inschato | The grid might help a bit, press g |
| 04:32.31 | ^_________^Sere | Annoying, but it's the only way to do it. |
| 04:32.39 | Gralamin | FOUND IT! |
| 04:32.43 | Gralamin | Numpad Star |
| 04:32.46 | Gralamin | Rotates terrain |
| 04:32.49 | Gralamin | When you C/P |
| 04:33.02 | ANdyBear22 | bummer, math invovled! |
| 04:33.03 | CrackingWise | hmm |
| 04:33.05 | ^_________^Sere | Yeah. * and / should |
| 04:33.30 | Gralamin | Alt+peroid and Alt+Comma lets you flip it Horizontally/Vertically as well |
| 04:33.49 | CrackingWise | I started out trying to make a footies style map and instead I decided to make a scinmatic sequence |
| 04:33.53 | CrackingWise | why am i doing this to my self |
| 04:33.53 | Skizot | HyBReD you around? |
| 04:34.14 | Kylegar | Apes there is quite a bit of documentation within the editor with tooltips and such |
| 04:34.33 | ^_________^Sere | Blizzard will never make documentation for the editor, though |
| 04:34.47 | ^_________^Sere | Hence why when you start it, you agree that they won't support it in any way |
| 04:34.49 | liq3 | They don't need to. They just need to release maps showing it in action. |
| 04:35.36 | Radaka | back |
| 04:35.39 | liq3 | They've already said they will release a few. |
| 04:36.12 | Apes | Oh well, a result of Blizzard's disregard for programming once again, I suppose. |
| 04:36.34 | wacko | ... |
| 04:36.37 | wacko | disregard ? |
| 04:36.41 | ANdyBear22 | why would they need to when the fans will do it for them? |
| 04:37.01 | Gralamin | Considering the crazy shit Blizzard communtines pull with almost no offical guides, I don't think Blizzard needs to make a guide. |
| 04:37.18 | ^_________^Sere | Well, on the other hand |
| 04:37.23 | liq3 | They don't but the stuff is already made. |
| 04:37.25 | liq3 | E.g. release uberlisk. |
| 04:37.27 | ^_________^Sere | You know they have their own internal guide to the editor |
| 04:37.39 | ^_________^Sere | They have a list hanging on the wall of what every single function does |
| 04:37.45 | liq3 | Actually I somehow doubt they do. o.o |
| 04:37.45 | ^_________^Sere | So it's not like it would be hard to release that to us |
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| 04:38.00 | liq3 | Well nothing production quality. |
| 04:38.08 | Radaka | One more massive problem with using coordinates to find the middle D: |
| 04:38.12 | valkrial1 | hey guys. |
| 04:38.15 | Radaka | The playable space is not centered |
| 04:38.15 | ^_________^Sere | Nah, just jotted down notes |
| 04:38.27 | ^_________^Sere | Radaka, are you making a UMS map? |
| 04:38.38 | Radaka | What does UMS mean? |
| 04:38.43 | Gralamin | Use Map Settings |
| 04:38.44 | liq3 | Radaka: just don't use the entire map... Leave a good area so you don't need the center. |
| 04:38.46 | Gralamin | IE: Custom game |
| 04:38.48 | ^_________^Sere | Custom map with triggers |
| 04:38.57 | Radaka | oh, no |
| 04:38.57 | valkrial1 | has anyone had the issue of making a map in the official map editor and trying to play it, but after loading starcraft errors out and says cannot load map. no thoer explination? |
| 04:39.03 | Radaka | I'm only interested in making good melee maps |
| 04:39.20 | wacko | valkrial1 what dependencies do you have ? |
| 04:39.31 | ^_________^Sere | Well, I wouldn't worry about mirroring. It's easy enough to guess, and then just use units to double check your terrain distances after |
| 04:39.38 | Radaka | that's true |
| 04:39.47 | Radaka | and you can always shift the playable space around afterwards |
| 04:39.47 | ^_________^Sere | ie, place a tank near each main and make sure it can hit the same spots, etc. |
| 04:39.49 | ^_________^Sere | Yes |
| 04:39.58 | valkrial1 | none??? i saw that options window for dependancies, but didnt change anything |
| 04:39.59 | Radaka | good suggestion for that tank |
| 04:40.05 | valkrial1 | also who is using my name? :P |
| 04:40.21 | valkrial1 | how can i tell where valkrial is signed in from? |
| 04:40.34 | ^_________^Sere | When I make my maps, I intentionally make each base slightly different, and then I adjust the terrain using tanks, grid (ie, how many turrets can fit on this ledge), checking chokes with depot walls, etc |
| 04:40.47 | ^_________^Sere | Basically I make the map look like it's a real map and not just half a map + mirror |
| 04:40.51 | ^_________^Sere | And it's actually very easy to balance. |
| 04:40.56 | valkrial1 | seen valkrial |
| 04:40.57 | Cerebral | ^ |
| 04:40.59 | ^_________^Sere | And has the benefit of looking more... real |
| 04:41.01 | ANdyBear22 | is it possible to open lost temple or other maps in the editor? |
| 04:41.11 | ^_________^Sere | Andybear22 yes |
| 04:41.36 | Razernok | hero inventory won't show up :( |
| 04:41.42 | inSync | So i've been trying for the past 30 minutes, trying to figure out how you "remove/kill" all the remaining units on the map. Anyone care to guide me? |
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| 04:42.10 | ^_________^Sere | inSync, one sec. |
| 04:42.17 | inSync | ta ^_________^Sere |
| 04:42.28 | ANdyBear22 | anyone know if servers are up? |
| 04:42.35 | Kylegar | kay |
| 04:42.37 | Kylegar | tutorial done |
| 04:42.37 | Kylegar | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/425-trigger-3rd-person-movement/ |
| 04:42.47 | zifoon | this chat needs trigger/data/other section |
| 04:42.52 | Radaka | yeah |
| 04:43.01 | Apes | Isn't Blizzard planning on allowing people to sell custom maps? A lack of a decent API documentation sort of discourages that doesn't it? |
| 04:43.01 | Radaka | much disjointed chatting |
| 04:43.09 | Inschato | It's beta. |
| 04:43.11 | Inschato | CHillax |
| 04:43.14 | zifoon | ITS BETA! |
| 04:43.17 | GardenOfAiur | arghhh why is bnet still down |
| 04:43.22 | Kylegar | The editor has a shitton of information built into it |
| 04:43.25 | zifoon | have u not seen wc3 RoC map editor? |
| 04:43.41 | Apes | All of Blizzard's editors are poorly documented by Blizzard, I think |
| 04:43.45 | zifoon | wc3 RoC map editor was piece of poo wrapped in turd |
| 04:43.57 | Kylegar | the entire list of native exported functions are listed in the trigger editor |
| 04:44.02 | Kylegar | with their parameters |
| 04:44.04 | Kylegar | and return type |
| 04:44.18 | ANdyBear22 | only total conversions tpyes will be sold. They said Dota wasn't good enough to be sold. |
| 04:44.19 | Kylegar | you really don't need more than that if you are programming |
| 04:44.21 | Apes | That's a good start |
| 04:44.27 | GardenOfAiur | why is bnet down for so long. the zerg fix takes that long? |
| 04:44.40 | zifoon | I reckon there will be improvement with the editor with each expansion |
| 04:44.44 | ^_________^Sere | inSync, I have no clue. There's a command to kill a single unit, but not a kill all x units trigger |
| 04:44.56 | BlueGhostie | theyre probably re doing all of Zerg |
| 04:45.03 | CrackingWise | disabling lan, setting themselves up as content distributors |
| 04:45.06 | zifoon | err? pick every unit and for each unit function? |
| 04:45.08 | inSync | ^_________^Sere: yeah... im alittle bugged out^^ |
| 04:45.13 | zifoon | then u kill that unit |
| 04:45.39 | inSync | zifoon: could u walk me thru the required triggers for that? |
| 04:45.41 | Kylegar | brb, restarting router |
| 04:45.48 | zifoon | what do u want to do? |
| 04:45.53 | zifoon | kill unit type? |
| 04:45.54 | Radaka | got it |
| 04:45.55 | Bladezor | argh |
| 04:45.59 | Bladezor | I don't like how the water |
| 04:46.03 | Bladezor | is in blocks |
| 04:46.07 | Radaka | placed a watchtower right in the absolute middle of the playable space |
| 04:46.07 | Bladezor | Is there any way to change their shape? |
| 04:46.09 | CrackingWise | ? |
| 04:46.16 | CrackingWise | you set the level right |
| 04:46.22 | inSync | okay so, i have 10 zerglings spawn, i can only kill 8. theres 2 left. i wish when i start my next wave, to remove them 2 remaining ones. |
| 04:46.23 | Radaka | had to use coordinates tho x( |
| 04:46.25 | CrackingWise | so it blends with the raised textures |
| 04:46.43 | CrackingWise | so map level is 9.0 water level needs to be 8.9 or lower |
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| 04:47.19 | CrackingWise | so if you create a depression |
| 04:47.23 | Bladezor | CrackingWise is there any way to make the size of the water patches smaller? |
| 04:47.26 | inSync | any idea zifoon ? |
| 04:47.31 | CrackingWise | don't think so |
| 04:47.37 | zifoon | there are 2 options, save the 10 zerglings in a variable then kill it when next one spawns, or kill all zerglings before next set of lings spawn |
| 04:47.40 | CrackingWise | but you can make very small depressions |
| 04:47.43 | Cerebral | Hey guess, has anyone checked to see if the assets to the time warp ability the mothership used ot have is still in the files? |
| 04:47.47 | Cerebral | guys* |
| 04:47.55 | RoyAwesome | asdf |
| 04:47.59 | ^_________^Sere | Bladezor, you can't edit the water at all, really. You have to edit the terrain around it |
| 04:48.03 | CrackingWise | Cerebral |
| 04:48.06 | CrackingWise | it's still there i believe |
| 04:48.09 | ^_________^Sere | It's pretty lame, but it allows for better water effects like shorelines and stuff |
| 04:48.10 | RoyAwesome | i want my nick back |
| 04:48.11 | zifoon | in the event there is pick every unit in unit group |
| 04:48.15 | RoyAwesome | stoopid router |
| 04:48.20 | zifoon | use matching condition |
| 04:48.26 | Cerebral | Cool |
| 04:48.33 | RoyAwesome | zifoon that would be getting another group |
| 04:48.39 | RoyAwesome | you can iterate through the group |
| 04:48.42 | zifoon | how so? |
| 04:48.47 | ^_________^Sere | Time Warp is 100% there |
| 04:48.51 | ^_________^Sere | I've already used it in a game |
| 04:48.51 | Bladezor | ^_________^Sere yeah I don't think the effect I'm going for is going to work though |
| 04:48.52 | RoyAwesome | what are you trying to do? |
| 04:48.54 | ^_________^Sere | Works great. |
| 04:48.58 | NoRoo | these data types are very confusing.. |
| 04:49.08 | zifoon | he's just trying to kill off remaining zerglings before next one spawns |
| 04:49.10 | ^_________^Sere | Bladezor, what are you going for? |
| 04:49.11 | CrackingWise | I've been trying add the mercenary terran unit to maps, to hire mercenaries |
| 04:49.17 | NoRoo | been at this for hours now and I still can't get this missile to pop up |
| 04:49.21 | zifoon | so just select all zerglings and kill before nxt spawn |
| 04:49.26 | RoyAwesome | one sec |
| 04:49.27 | Bladezor | ^_________^Sere http://livestream.com/i_suck_at_sc2 |
| 04:49.29 | zifoon | since there is no kill all unit of type |
| 04:49.33 | RoyAwesome | I have similar code |
| 04:49.36 | Bladezor | You can kinda tell from that |
| 04:49.41 | ^_________^Sere | Hang on, I need Flash :D |
| 04:49.46 | zifoon | u select all unit that is zergling, loop and kill |
| 04:49.49 | Bladezor | I have waterfalls on the outside of the map |
| 04:49.59 | inSync | zifoon: so where do i select all zerglings and kill, whats the trigger im looking for |
| 04:50.02 | Bladezor | which I want to fall into this outer pool of water |
| 04:50.11 | Bladezor | Which then flows into a lower portion of water |
| 04:50.11 | ^_________^Sere | One sec |
| 04:50.12 | ^_________^Sere | Brb |
| 04:50.14 | Bladezor | kk |
| 04:50.16 | ^_________^Sere | Oh, right |
| 04:50.23 | ^_________^Sere | You can't change water height that I've found |
| 04:50.28 | ^_________^Sere | Like, all water is the same height |
| 04:50.36 | Bladezor | I can change the height just fine |
| 04:50.38 | RoyAwesome | zifoon http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1983/ |
| 04:50.42 | Bladezor | It's the shape and size |
| 04:50.52 | zifoon | ha u looped it |
| 04:50.56 | RoyAwesome | yea |
| 04:50.57 | ^_________^Sere | Ok one sec, lemme see your stream |
| 04:50.59 | RoyAwesome | best way |
| 04:50.59 | zifoon | did the same thing as me |
| 04:51.09 | zifoon | anyway insync was the one who wanted it |
| 04:51.20 | Acolyte1 | hey bifuu, are you here? |
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| 04:51.24 | RoyAwesome | inSync: http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1983/ |
| 04:51.38 | RoyAwesome | oh, sweet, I finally pinged out |
| 04:52.21 | zifoon | but it would be logically correct to save the zerglings that you created and save them in a varible and remove them, that way zerglings can be used elsewhere |
| 04:52.25 | Kylegar | so, while writing my 3rd person tutorial, I figured out a better way to do it |
| 04:52.31 | zifoon | but if u don't want to use them elsewhere it doesn't matter |
| 04:52.33 | CrackingWise | bladezor make a tiny lip |
| 04:52.42 | CrackingWise | oh |
| 04:52.44 | CrackingWise | that won't work |
| 04:52.57 | inSync | zifoon: That sounds better, saving them in a variable, but how do i manage that. |
| 04:53.12 | zifoon | when u create units |
| 04:53.21 | zifoon | just put a variable under it |
| 04:53.24 | Sere^_^ | Ok Bladezor, explain again. Is ee you doing something with the waterfall |
| 04:53.31 | zifoon | unit group variable |
| 04:53.33 | Bladezor | alright |
| 04:53.36 | zifoon | and u can save last created unit groups |
| 04:53.42 | zifoon | I'm sure it's default |
| 04:53.43 | Bladezor | See the big waterfall in the background |
| 04:53.47 | Sere^_^ | I do |
| 04:53.52 | Bladezor | It flows into this pool of water infront of it |
| 04:53.57 | zifoon | and do pick every unit in unit group (one u saved) and kill |
| 04:53.58 | liq3 | inSync: you could just put a wait, then kill them. |
| 04:54.01 | Sere^_^ | And you want that little waterfall |
| 04:54.02 | Inschato | figures out how to know who killed a unit |
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| 04:54.09 | ignus | hi :D |
| 04:54.10 | Bladezor | And I want that to flow into this smaller pool just outside the middle of the map |
| 04:54.10 | Sere^_^ | From that pool into the cliff place |
| 04:54.23 | Acolyte1 | hey! |
| 04:54.24 | inSync | liq3: What do u mean put a wait then kill them? elaborate. |
| 04:54.28 | Acolyte1 | i have an ability called Heroinventory |
| 04:54.33 | Acolyte1 | and it's given to a marine |
| 04:54.39 | Acolyte1 | i followed this guide exactly: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ |
| 04:54.40 | Sere^_^ | Ok. Can you modify the height of the waterfall? |
| 04:54.42 | Bladezor | Sere^_^ I think it would look really cool |
| 04:54.42 | Sere^_^ | Like... |
| 04:54.46 | Acolyte1 | but.. |
| 04:54.48 | Acolyte1 | i need to know |
| 04:54.52 | Sere^_^ | You might have to take the waterfall doodad and copy it |
| 04:54.54 | Acolyte1 | *HOW DO I USE THAT ABILITY* |
| 04:54.59 | Sere^_^ | Make a second one, and lower the altitude on the second one |
| 04:55.01 | Bladezor | That's fine but look at the water |
| 04:55.02 | Acolyte1 | the ability is called "heroinvent" |
| 04:55.06 | ignus | I'm super excited about getting into this map editor |
| 04:55.06 | Sere^_^ | Ah ok sec |
| 04:55.16 | Acolyte1 | and it's like red crosshairs |
| 04:55.19 | ignus | anyone made anything awesome yet? :3 |
| 04:55.21 | liq3 | inSync: well you have you "spawn units" action, then put a wait after it (e.g. 30 secs), then a kill command after that for the last created group |
| 04:55.21 | Acolyte1 | it does not show up on the command card |
| 04:55.26 | Bladezor | The fact that it's square makes this really difficult |
| 04:55.29 | liq3 | inSync: not so sure about the last bit tho. |
| 04:55.32 | zifoon | man this editor without making custom functions have serious limitations |
| 04:55.33 | Acolyte1 | i want to put it on the cmd card |
| 04:55.34 | Acolyte1 | >.< |
| 04:55.42 | liq3 | zifoon: such as? |
| 04:55.45 | NoRoo | I was super excited about the map editor until I hit the brick wall a few hours ago :< |
| 04:55.52 | liq3 | NoRoo: such as? |
| 04:55.53 | Sere^_^ | I'm still slightly confused, probably because I'm so tired... but you basically need that top pool to not be sqaure, right? |
| 04:55.54 | General1337 | Has anyone done anything with the inventory? |
| 04:56.00 | ignus | It's not the full editor is it? |
| 04:56.07 | zifoon | no hero functions, missing tones of functions from wc3 editor |
| 04:56.09 | Inschato | What are you talking about, you CAN make custom functions. I mean, we don't know the language eh but.. :p |
| 04:56.16 | zifoon | also getvariables aren't even GUI yet |
| 04:56.20 | NoRoo | liq3: I've been unable to spawn any sort of projectile in any form |
| 04:56.25 | Acolyte1 | hey zifoon, i have a hero |
| 04:56.27 | Acolyte1 | that gains xp |
| 04:56.31 | zifoon | same |
| 04:56.33 | zifoon | O_O |
| 04:56.35 | General1337 | customscripts don't work yet do they? |
| 04:56.35 | zifoon | I mean hero functions |
| 04:56.36 | General1337 | for functions that is |
| 04:56.38 | Acolyte1 | just need to put an ability on the command card, and i'll fucking let him make |
| 04:56.39 | zifoon | triggers |
| 04:56.40 | General1337 | or triggers |
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| 04:56.43 | Acolyte1 | let him get* |
| 04:56.44 | Acolyte1 | items |
| 04:56.55 | Acolyte1 | zifoon, i have a hero ability called "heroinventory" |
| 04:56.56 | Inschato | Ctrl+Alt+F on the data window |
| 04:56.57 | Kylegar | General1337 they should |
| 04:56.59 | Dremora_ | uh, this should be simple, but Ive searched everywhere... does anyone know how to remove the upgrade reqs from an ability? |
| 04:57.00 | Acolyte1 | and it's given to my marine |
| 04:57.02 | liq3 | inSync: yeh you can just go "Kill (Lastcreated unit)" |
| 04:57.08 | Sere^_^ | The way I would do it is to add terrain on top of your temple right there... just enough to make a little tiny hump about the water |
| 04:57.11 | Acolyte1 | but I can *not* figure out how to use it |
| 04:57.12 | Acolyte1 | in game |
| 04:57.14 | Sere^_^ | Like, say your cliff is at 3.0 height |
| 04:57.16 | Acolyte1 | have any help? |
| 04:57.17 | Sere^_^ | Put your water at 3.1 |
| 04:57.19 | General1337 | How do you use them in triggers Kylegar |
| 04:57.21 | General1337 | like |
| 04:57.21 | Sere^_^ | And the terrain hill at 3.2 |
| 04:57.26 | General1337 | if you make your own function |
| 04:57.34 | General1337 | how do you use the custom script thing inside the trigger |
| 04:57.35 | zifoon | how is ur inventory organised? |
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| 04:57.41 | Sere^_^ | That's the only way to make the water not square, and if you do it right you won't notice the hump |
| 04:57.42 | zifoon | same as bichuu's? |
| 04:57.51 | CrackingWise | dremora |
| 04:57.53 | Sere^_^ | And then texture it with the same texture |
| 04:57.53 | CrackingWise | you can't set it? |
| 04:57.58 | CrackingWise | when you're adding abilities |
| 04:58.22 | Sere^_^ | The only problem I see is that the water hangs over the cliff... |
| 04:58.23 | Dremora_ | Its there, but I put none, it still requires it.. |
| 04:58.36 | CrackingWise | duplicate the ability |
| 04:58.40 | CrackingWise | and take out the requirements |
| 04:58.44 | Sere^_^ | And I'm not sure what you can do about that unless you added a doodad there to cover it up or something |
| 04:58.45 | CrackingWise | i could do it in xml |
| 04:58.53 | Dremora_ | alright |
| 04:59.06 | Bladezor | Sere^_^ maybe I just need to make my map bigger |
| 04:59.11 | Bladezor | Cause the grid blocks seem really big |
| 04:59.27 | Sere^_^ | They're just big :( |
| 04:59.29 | CrackingWise | did |
| 04:59.29 | McLovin|Truhan | omg |
| 04:59.32 | CrackingWise | just add a little rock formation |
| 04:59.35 | Sere^_^ | Wait... |
| 04:59.36 | CrackingWise | as a crust |
| 04:59.37 | McLovin|Truhan | did anyone else get a character reset? |
| 04:59.43 | CrackingWise | it's not perfect |
| 04:59.44 | Sere^_^ | Can you resize water like you can units? |
| 04:59.47 | McLovin|Truhan | cause if I got banned from beta for McLovin |
| 04:59.52 | CrackingWise | but it covers up the too large texture |
| 04:59.54 | Sere^_^ | I think it's + when selecting it |
| 04:59.56 | Bladezor | Sere^_^ nope |
| 04:59.57 | McLovin|Truhan | that would be utterly ridiculous |
| 04:59.59 | Sere^_^ | Aww |
| 05:00.06 | zifoon | acolyte1, have to put any ability to the item? |
| 05:00.43 | CrackingWise | i felt a lot more clever when I was just playing with xml files |
| 05:00.52 | CrackingWise | i have no idea how to script or use this engine |
| 05:01.02 | Bladezor | Sere^_^ I'm just gonna redo the entire make |
| 05:01.03 | zifoon | it's the same imo |
| 05:01.05 | Bladezor | map* |
| 05:01.13 | zifoon | it has the same name from xml files |
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| 05:01.45 | Hades | ello eloo |
| 05:01.46 | zifoon | but it's kinda gay since it should be easier than xml files |
| 05:01.49 | zifoon | but it's not |
| 05:01.52 | Sere^_^ | Yeah, you can try making it bigger but I think you'll get the same issue... the water is still the same size, and so are the grid squares |
| 05:02.03 | Sere^_^ | You'll still end up with a small amount of water overlapping the lup |
| 05:02.08 | Sere^_^ | lip* |
| 05:02.24 | Sere^_^ | Terrain can make the water non-square, but... |
| 05:02.27 | Sere^_^ | Hang on a sec. |
| 05:03.13 | ANdyBear22 | how come when I lower cliff, it lowers it by a huge amount? |
| 05:03.14 | Sere^_^ | It's not in that screenshot, but you can do the terrain that way .1 units above the water |
| 05:03.26 | Sere^_^ | And you honestly can't tell the terrain is even there when you texture it |
| 05:03.35 | Sere^_^ | So that can give you a non-square water |
| 05:03.40 | Radaka | how do you add the ambient fog that you can see inside the deep pits inside the official maps? |
| 05:03.43 | Dustin | Did you guys see my water from my map |
| 05:03.53 | Sere^_^ | But the only way I see to fix the water clipping the edge of the cliff is sticking rocks there or something |
| 05:04.17 | HBHades | anyone able to get a unit to path to a location? |
| 05:04.23 | HBHades | i cant figure it our |
| 05:04.25 | CrackingWise | hmm |
| 05:04.27 | HBHades | out* |
| 05:04.30 | CrackingWise | could you make invisible terrain? |
| 05:04.34 | Radaka | how to fog? |
| 05:04.36 | Radaka | heh |
| 05:04.45 | liq3 | HBHades; what do you mean? just a simple move order? |
| 05:04.46 | Renee | I just made a tutorial map about Hero System and Item System, include hero reviving http://bbs.islga.org/read-htm-tid-40061.html |
| 05:04.51 | CrackingWise | like a terrain that is alpha channel only |
| 05:04.51 | Radaka | c : |
| 05:04.54 | CrackingWise | i dunno |
| 05:04.56 | HBHades | yep |
| 05:05.04 | liq3 | HBHades: easily. :p |
| 05:05.09 | liq3 | just use "issue order" |
| 05:05.14 | Acolyte1 | zifoon> acolyte1, have to put any ability to the item? |
| 05:05.19 | Acolyte1 | sorry, missed that |
| 05:05.21 | HBHades | triger event issue order? |
| 05:05.30 | liq3 | the event? |
| 05:05.30 | Acolyte1 | but i'm not sure what you're saying |
| 05:05.37 | liq3 | well WHEN do you want the order to go thru? |
| 05:05.45 | Acolyte1 | I have an ability with heroinv |
| 05:05.50 | Acolyte1 | i have the inventory squares all done |
| 05:05.51 | HBHades | when the unit is spawned |
| 05:05.57 | Acolyte1 | just, I can't figure out how to open the inventory |
| 05:06.00 | HBHades | ive got that all worked out |
| 05:06.08 | Acolyte1 | wether it's from a click ability in the command card, or a trigger |
| 05:06.10 | Acolyte1 | or something. |
| 05:06.21 | liq3 | then you'd make the "Last Created Units" move with Issue Order |
| 05:06.22 | ANdyBear22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.38 | HBHades | thanks ill give it a try |
| 05:06.52 | Gralamin | I don't suppose there is any way to easily stretch a region to fit an entire elevated area, is there? |
| 05:06.54 | HBHades | just a little tidbit for you guys |
| 05:06.54 | inSync | liq3: im having a problem with "last created unit" its not Plural. its only 1 unit. |
| 05:06.56 | liq3 | btw, since you haven't used it, you can click the "(". :P |
| 05:07.05 | liq3 | inSync: really? bah. |
| 05:07.18 | HBHades | i hear that its possible to trigger water level increase. awesome |
| 05:07.21 | inSync | liq3: Yes, if it was "LAST CREATED UNIT(S)" |
| 05:07.24 | inSync | liq3: it would be okay |
| 05:07.28 | HBHades | deadly lava here we come |
| 05:07.59 | Teal | inSync, Unit Group (Last Created Units) |
| 05:08.05 | liq3 | inSync: in that case you'll probably need a unit group. |
| 05:08.10 | Teal | rather, Pick Every Unit in Unit Group (Last Created Units) |
| 05:08.10 | liq3 | teal, oh? |
| 05:08.20 | Teal | i already have it working on my test map |
| 05:08.29 | Galois-evariste | [Question] Since we can play custom maps online, are we able to also play them with others or is it strictly Online Single Player? |
| 05:08.33 | zifoon | oh I thought u meant u didn't know how to create a item with ability |
| 05:08.35 | zifoon | my bad |
| 05:08.37 | ANdyBear22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.37 | zifoon | miscommuncation |
| 05:08.50 | liq3 | Teal: he's trying to kill any remaining units (that he creatted with triggers) a set time after they spawn. |
| 05:09.08 | Teal | ... need to set them as a variable then |
| 05:09.11 | inSync | not a set time, rather just when you have no foces left. or vise versa. |
| 05:09.13 | Teal | unless expiration timers work |
| 05:09.17 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ by Bifuu |
| 05:09.18 | inSync | how do i set them as a variable. |
| 05:09.25 | inSync | that would be easier. |
| 05:09.28 | Teal | you set them when they're created, but... |
| 05:09.31 | inSync | setting a spawn trigger as variable |
| 05:09.42 | Bifuu | Tutorial updated, now shows how to add an item that Increases unit speed by 100% when you equip it |
| 05:09.42 | Kylegar | did they wipe the db again? |
| 05:09.43 | Teal | if it's only when an enemy no longer has any units, you could use a separate trigger |
| 05:09.51 | Teal | Event - Unit Dies |
| 05:09.55 | liq3 | inSync: yeh make a local variable and set it as a unit group. |
| 05:10.01 | Teal | Condition - Player X controls 0 units. |
| 05:10.14 | Teal | Action - Remove all units for Player Y |
| 05:10.29 | Teal | Action - Run trigger [whatever you want, if you want it to restart the process] |
| 05:10.42 | liq3 | Huh, there's a "last created units" function. |
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| 05:10.47 | ANdyBear22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.53 | zifoon | gw bichuu but u should work on attributes first X_X |
| 05:11.07 | HBHades | andy - have you tried reducing the speed? |
| 05:11.23 | zifoon | bifuu* |
| 05:11.31 | inSync | Teal: Inside "Conditions" i only have "And, Comparasion, Not, Or, text has been set, within bounds" |
| 05:11.35 | ANdyBear22 | There is no speed option for cliffs |
| 05:11.44 | Teal | Comparison |
| 05:11.45 | Kylegar | welp |
| 05:11.48 | Kylegar | GE finally crashed for me |
| 05:11.55 | Teal | sorry, was using my terminology from War3 |
| 05:12.05 | Teal | most of the triggers work the same, the complexity is finding them |
| 05:12.24 | ANdyBear22 | whenever I use lower CLiff, it lowers it so much that ramps no longer work. |
| 05:12.30 | Kylegar | it's about pressing a button and seeing what it does |
| 05:12.39 | inSync | Teal: so now i have infront of me (Owner of (triggering unit) == 1 |
| 05:12.40 | zifoon | there is no remove all units for player y , you gotta use loop (for each unit in unit group) |
| 05:12.51 | liq3 | inSync: ok i got it. Still need help? |
| 05:13.00 | inSync | liq3: yeah |
| 05:13.07 | liq3 | I'll make a screenshot. |
| 05:13.11 | liq3 | easiest way to show you :D |
| 05:13.12 | inSync | liq3: <3 |
| 05:14.03 | ANdyBear22 | how come when I lower cliff, it lowers it by a huge amount? Ramps no longer work. |
| 05:14.38 | liq3 | inSync: also this doesn't need a viriable. :D |
| 05:14.57 | liq3 | http://i44.tinypic.com/evbzty.png |
| 05:15.26 | zifoon | but liq3 the problem with not putting a varible is that if he creates any other units else where, those units would die |
| 05:15.33 | zifoon | not the ones he want |
| 05:15.42 | liq3 | zifroon: this only kills units created by this trigger. |
| 05:15.57 | zifoon | im sure last created units is a global variable |
| 05:16.05 | liq3 | check the screenshot. |
| 05:16.06 | liq3 | :P |
| 05:16.23 | liq3 | "this function ignores units created by other triggers" |
| 05:17.10 | liq3 | Man, I wonder if I could make a GO map with this . o.o |
| 05:17.12 | zifoon | ha |
| 05:17.24 | Bifuu | zifoon: lol my main goal first is to adapt Arthas-'s tutorial as he requested, then ill do attributes, im almost done with his but the rest might not be here til tomorrow |
| 05:17.51 | zifoon | yeah but initial attributes can't be set, kinda gay |
| 05:17.59 | liq3 | Man I probably could. o.o |
| 05:18.14 | liq3 | fuck it, I'm gonna do it. o.O |
| 05:18.16 | liq3 | WISH ME LUCK. |
| 05:18.27 | Bifuu | zifoon: check this out http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401524582&sid=5000 |
| 05:18.30 | Inschato | You mean the boardgame? |
| 05:18.32 | liq3 | oh god, no way I can implement ko bah. |
| 05:18.35 | liq3 | Inschato: yeh. |
| 05:18.45 | liq3 | I don't see any way I could implement the Ko rule tho. :( |
| 05:19.10 | Inschato | Do something simple, like Tic-tac-toe |
| 05:19.12 | liq3 | Also honestly it'd probably be a LOT easier if I wait for scripting. |
| 05:19.12 | ANdyBear22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.24 | zifoon | ty bifuu ill have a look |
| 05:19.34 | liq3 | ANdyBear22: actually they do :D |
| 05:19.37 | liq3 | ramps work with any cliff height. |
| 05:19.42 | Inschato | ANdyBear22, try just lowering everything else |
| 05:19.48 | liq3 | ANdyBear22: also it might be lowering it to the lowest (water) level. |
| 05:19.52 | Inschato | You're lowering cliffs to the "nothing there" height |
| 05:19.55 | liq3 | There's uh, 4 levels. |
| 05:19.59 | liq3 | Water, low, medium and high. |
| 05:20.07 | Inschato | just raising everything else* |
| 05:20.14 | Teal | so i saw someone say that it was possible to play games on Bnet now, but does that also mean we can play with other people? |
| 05:20.17 | HBHades | you can also use a reference level and level everything to that |
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| 05:20.39 | HBHades | same level cliff should work |
| 05:20.41 | ANdyBear22 | only 4 levels? |
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| 05:21.11 | zifoon | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/344-play-custom-maps-on-official-battle-net-custom-games/#p7 |
| 05:21.17 | zifoon | how to play custom maps on bnet |
| 05:21.32 | zifoon | aka both players renaming their maps |
| 05:21.39 | zifoon | to a default bnet map |
| 05:21.41 | ANdyBear22 | From base level, using raise cliff, it raises it by 1, then I can raise it by 1 more. Using lower cliff from base level, it lowers it by 3 levels... |
| 05:22.53 | HBHades | ... |
| 05:23.03 | HBHades | what level do you want it at? |
| 05:23.18 | ANdyBear22 | it just seems odd it lowers it by 3, and not by 1 :/ |
| 05:23.25 | HBHades | lol |
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| 05:23.37 | HBHades | 1 word |
| 05:23.39 | HBHades | beta |
| 05:23.56 | ShadowTiger | +1 word |
| 05:23.57 | ShadowTiger | test |
| 05:24.00 | HBHades | you could send a report if it means so much to you |
| 05:24.05 | liq3 | oh my god. You can get the height of a unit... so you could kill every unit on low ground at a specific time. :D |
| 05:24.26 | HBHades | raise the lava on a timer |
| 05:24.31 | ShadowTiger | you can also kill every unit below your hero unit |
| 05:24.31 | HBHades | then kill them all |
| 05:24.33 | liq3 | Yeh, blizzard did it. |
| 05:24.38 | HBHades | yep |
| 05:24.53 | TheRipper | so whats the news on water... only one height for the whole map? |
| 05:24.54 | liq3 | Hrm. |
| 05:24.58 | liq3 | I wonder... |
| 05:25.03 | Inschato | makes a button that causes a gigantic nuclear explosion. |
| 05:25.04 | TheRipper | aka, no more high/low ground rivers and ponds? D: |
| 05:25.22 | ShadowTiger | apparently you use terrain deformation to sculpt the water |
| 05:25.30 | TheRipper | really now... |
| 05:25.36 | liq3 | TheRipper: eh? |
| 05:25.41 | liq3 | You can set water height to anything. :] |
| 05:25.47 | TheRipper | yeah i know :P |
| 05:25.53 | TheRipper | i meant, multiple heights |
| 05:26.02 | Kylegar | well |
| 05:26.02 | TheRipper | like, a low river, and maybe a mountain pond |
| 05:26.05 | Kylegar | time to make heroes |
| 05:26.09 | liq3 | Yeh I don't think there's multiple heights. :( |
| 05:26.11 | Kylegar | 3rd person controls were fun |
| 05:26.14 | TheRipper | bummer. |
| 05:26.29 | Kylegar | mm |
| 05:26.30 | Kylegar | actually |
| 05:26.36 | Kylegar | I think i'm going to do some gui stuff |
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| 05:26.48 | TheRipper | time to get pizza |
| 05:26.52 | TheRipper | and then experiment!! |
| 05:28.07 | liq3 | LOL WTF my units are walking in water... |
| 05:28.08 | liq3 | o.o |
| 05:28.11 | liq3 | interesting. |
| 05:28.25 | BlueGhostie | armor should be air tight |
| 05:28.37 | liq3 | :P |
| 05:28.46 | HBHades | liq...ty for the 'issue order' thing |
| 05:28.57 | HBHades | i was looking for it for the las 4 hours :( |
| 05:28.58 | liq3 | inSync: did that work btw, the kill thing? |
| 05:29.06 | liq3 | yeh, i had trouble with it too. |
| 05:29.11 | liq3 | I didn't realise I could click the ( :( |
| 05:29.12 | HBHades | havent tried |
| 05:29.20 | inSync | liq3: I'm trying to figure it out man! haha |
| 05:29.26 | liq3 | LoL. :P |
| 05:29.34 | liq3 | I could be more specific. |
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| 05:29.49 | inSync | liq3: do u have MSN, ill send u my map file so i can understand it maybe. |
| 05:30.03 | liq3 | Nah I got a better idea. ;] |
| 05:30.05 | liq3 | Hang on. |
| 05:30.45 | liq3 | First bracket: Unit in unit group. 2nd (: Number of units in unit group. Then living, then just "last created unitS" twice. |
| 05:30.47 | Galois-evariste | Is it possible to play your custom map with other people online yet? |
| 05:30.56 | liq3 | no |
| 05:30.59 | Galois-evariste | ok |
| 05:31.25 | HBHades | so get your maps up to par |
| 05:31.28 | Kylegar | long answer: if you rename your map to the same name as an official map |
| 05:31.31 | Kylegar | and your friend does that too |
| 05:31.32 | Kylegar | then yes |
| 05:31.40 | HBHades | because theres gonna be some crazy shit comming out |
| 05:31.43 | Galois-evariste | nice trick kyle |
| 05:31.48 | Kylegar | no credit to me |
| 05:31.57 | Kylegar | it was on the forums |
| 05:32.32 | ShadowTiger | has anyone messed with hellion weapon? |
| 05:32.41 | liq3 | LOL. |
| 05:32.45 | liq3 | make it teh sieged tank weapon. :D |
| 05:32.53 | Kylegar | bnet up yet? |
| 05:32.56 | Galois-evariste | I just found something that says "Convert Legacy map" and it accepts brood war and regular starcraft maps |
| 05:32.58 | Galois-evariste | is this what I think it is? |
| 05:33.02 | Kylegar | yes |
| 05:33.02 | liq3 | yes |
| 05:33.07 | Galois-evariste | :o |
| 05:33.07 | ShadowTiger | no |
| 05:33.07 | Kylegar | it doesn't work very well though |
| 05:33.36 | Kylegar | bnet is back up \o/ |
| 05:35.55 | HBHades | anyone know how to reduce build time in data module? |
| 05:36.11 | HBHades | looking to make a barraks build in say 5 secs |
| 05:36.17 | HBHades | barracks* |
| 05:37.08 | Bifuu | Ability data |
| 05:37.19 | HBHades | ty ill take a look |
| 05:37.45 | Bifuu | maybe |
| 05:37.49 | Bifuu | *looking* |
| 05:37.57 | Kylegar | I remember this earlier |
| 05:38.02 | Kylegar | it had somethign to do with SCVs |
| 05:38.17 | Kylegar | you have to edit the SCV to reduce build time |
| 05:38.22 | Bemoliph | Yeah, you want to find SCV - Build (SCV) ability in the data editor |
| 05:38.32 | HBHades | thanks |
| 05:38.33 | Bemoliph | Then go to (None) - Info + |
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| 05:38.41 | Bemoliph | And it's all the way at the bottom of the entry in there for Barracks |
| 05:38.43 | Bemoliph | Called "Time" |
| 05:40.43 | Bifuu | yeah there you go |
| 05:40.55 | HBHades | lol i was reading unit data and not ability |
| 05:40.56 | HBHades | ty again...works perfectly. |
| 05:42.00 | Bifuu | You toatlly stole my Post template for your 3rd person tutorial =P |
| 05:42.49 | Kylegar | :) |
| 05:43.06 | Kylegar | So, i logically organized it |
| 05:43.22 | Bifuu | lol |
| 05:44.03 | Kylegar | my section names are better |
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| 05:44.09 | Kylegar | Tasty Trembling Triggers Rotating Round Rhombuses |
| 05:44.16 | Kylegar | And then he said: Let there be Triggers |
| 05:44.29 | Kylegar | Triggering a move is great, now lets Trigger a WARRRRRR |
| 05:44.46 | AngryAmish | so did they fix the zerg rush stuff yet? |
| 05:44.56 | Furyhunter | nope, I don't think so |
| 05:45.04 | AngryAmish | all that and no changes eh |
| 05:45.05 | AngryAmish | awesome |
| 05:45.21 | Kylegar | they wiped the db |
| 05:46.22 | AngryAmish | noticed |
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| 05:47.04 | Gino | Can someone help me with a simple trigger that I can't figure out?! |
| 05:47.12 | Kylegar | ask away |
| 05:47.16 | Kylegar | we may help |
| 05:47.31 | Gino | Im trying to spawn units |
| 05:47.35 | Gino | by clicking on another unit |
| 05:47.38 | Gino | Right now the idea is |
| 05:47.45 | Gino | Clicking on an archon |
| 05:47.49 | Gino | spawns an archon in the middle of the map |
| 05:47.56 | Gino | and clicking on a zergling |
| 05:48.01 | Gino | would spawn a zergling in the middle of the map |
| 05:48.05 | Gino | so far, no luck |
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| 05:48.47 | dorkass | yo |
| 05:48.54 | Gino | Hey |
| 05:49.38 | AngryAmish | has anyone figured out how to make an attack hit the first unit it hits, instead of the target? where it goes in a straight line? my attack keeps hitting the attacking unit |
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| 05:51.16 | lolwut_ | how do i convert a GUI trigger into a script? |
| 05:52.29 | Inschato | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/2-whackaling/ <-- I totally updated it. It's way more interesting now ~_~ |
| 05:52.30 | dorkass | anyone got a list of leaderboard triggers? I'm having a bitch of a time |
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| 05:54.23 | Inschato | Level 3 is haaaard -_- |
| 05:55.00 | Skizot | is there a way to show JUST the command card? |
| 05:55.21 | liq3 | skizot: eh? |
| 05:56.05 | liq3 | Inschato: eh? |
| 05:56.05 | Inschato | My map, liq3 :p |
| 05:56.05 | Inschato | Play it, level 3.. ish hard |
| 05:56.05 | liq3 | OH. WHAT'S YOUR MAP? :P |
| 05:56.05 | Inschato | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/2-whackaling/ |
| 05:56.06 | liq3 | oooooo |
| 05:56.17 | liq3 | hopefully won't freeze my comp this time. |
| 05:57.00 | Skizot | i want to show buttons for abilities :/ |
| 05:57.03 | Skizot | snipe etc. |
| 05:57.58 | Gralamin | How do I make structures again? |
| 05:57.59 | Gino | awesome game inschato |
| 05:58.00 | Gino | haha |
| 05:58.09 | Inschato | :D |
| 05:58.38 | Inschato | I'll make the levels a bit more granular later, after I figure out a better system to do them with, it's all kind of hacky right now |
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| 06:00.33 | NoRoo | any new developments? :o |
| 06:00.56 | Bifuu | NoRoo: yeah my laziness is kicking in =/ |
| 06:01.10 | NoRoo | Bifuu: heh |
| 06:01.46 | NoRoo | bifuu: I'm slacking off too, never got anywhere with those projectiles... kinda wish I spent more time with the WC3 editor, maybe I wouldn't be in such a tough spot now :P |
| 06:02.05 | Bifuu | lol |
| 06:02.09 | liq3 | Inschato: it'd be cooler if it just slowly increased the spawn speed. |
| 06:02.10 | liq3 | :P |
| 06:02.13 | liq3 | the "more hits" thing is lame. |
| 06:02.14 | Bifuu | i spent 0 time with World Edit |
| 06:02.23 | Inschato | Eh, yeah I don't really like going just to the more hits one |
| 06:02.30 | Inschato | I was just going to throw them in occasionally |
| 06:02.40 | liq3 | i'd just make it slowly increase the spawn speed. |
| 06:02.41 | NoRoo | ahh, that's about how much time I spent on it |
| 06:02.43 | Gino | I got 148 |
| 06:02.46 | Gino | high score! |
| 06:02.54 | liq3 | so you eventually overwhelm the player. :D |
| 06:02.58 | Inschato | Did you waste your nukes before level 3? :p |
| 06:02.58 | NoRoo | played around with it once like 6 years ago, that was it |
| 06:03.03 | liq3 | nope |
| 06:03.14 | peterpants | 256x256 feels smallers than it was in wc3 |
| 06:03.16 | Inschato | Isn't that nuke awesome? :P |
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| 06:06.29 | Xan | hmm, how do I create public variables? |
| 06:06.33 | Kylegar | lol whack a zerg |
| 06:06.48 | Inschato | The X= icon on the far right, Xan |
| 06:06.51 | peterpants | where u make triggers u can make variables |
| 06:06.55 | liq3 | Inschato: gonna change it so there's no levels and it just increases number of units? :P |
| 06:06.55 | dorkass | just on the main trigger menu |
| 06:07.00 | Inschato | We'll see |
| 06:07.07 | Inschato | Seems a bit too boring that way |
| 06:07.09 | Xan | ahh |
| 06:07.13 | Sholdak | SetDialogItemFlash doesnt seem to work :( |
| 06:07.13 | Dremora_ | anyone know how to attach actors to abilities ? |
| 06:07.15 | Kylegar | Inschato you should make the level every 100 res |
| 06:07.17 | liq3 | well that's how the classic one work.s |
| 06:07.20 | Inschato | Maybe I'll make it so the lings get smaller |
| 06:07.36 | Kylegar | and pick a random unit but give it x number of click, where x is the level number |
| 06:07.44 | Xapti | i got like 600 for score or something |
| 06:07.44 | Kylegar | you can also play with scale |
| 06:07.51 | Inschato | slaps Xapti around a bit with a large lobster |
| 06:07.52 | Xapti | i kept playing caue i didn't know level 3 never ended lol |
| 06:07.57 | Xapti | or at least i assume it never ended |
| 06:08.01 | Inschato | Correct |
| 06:08.21 | Kylegar | yea |
| 06:08.25 | Kylegar | level 3 is the last level |
| 06:08.29 | Kylegar | you can see it int eh trigger editor |
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| 06:08.51 | Inschato | Pretty short list of triggers, I know :( |
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| 06:09.24 | Kylegar | my map btw: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1940586/ZERGLINGZAP.SC2Map |
| 06:09.26 | Pychnight | Heys |
| 06:09.36 | Pychnight | Every one having fun with the editor? |
| 06:09.38 | Kylegar | grow your archon |
| 06:09.41 | Xapti | you might as well make it a shooter style game Inshato |
| 06:09.43 | Kylegar | ZAP ZERGLINGS |
| 06:09.44 | Xapti | with reload |
| 06:09.50 | Xapti | cause that's waht it feels more like |
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| 06:09.51 | ShadowTiger | im having losta funz |
| 06:09.53 | ShadowTiger | : D |
| 06:09.56 | dorkass | does anyone have a working example of a kill counting leaderboard? |
| 06:10.02 | Xapti | then you can have hydras shoot at you, and loose health and sutff |
| 06:10.04 | Kylegar | yea |
| 06:10.04 | Xapti | it would be cool |
| 06:10.07 | Kylegar | dorkass: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1940586/ZERGLINGZAP.SC2Map |
| 06:10.14 | dorkass | cool yo |
| 06:10.22 | Kylegar | convienient that you ask that |
| 06:10.25 | Kylegar | cause...I do |
| 06:10.31 | Pychnight | Alright, i decided to join this mirc channel as i was recreating the uberlisk in galaxy editor using the xml tutorial. |
| 06:10.35 | dorkass | i've been asking every 2 minutes |
| 06:10.37 | dorkass | sike |
| 06:10.48 | shmen | Inwchato, where can i get ur map to test? |
| 06:10.54 | shmen | Inschato* |
| 06:11.10 | Kylegar | he posted a link earlier |
| 06:11.12 | Kylegar | here it is |
| 06:11.13 | Kylegar | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/2-whackaling/ |
| 06:11.16 | Pychnight | so far, i got pretty far even though there where a few things, i could not find a way to actually do compared to the xml tutorial. |
| 06:11.33 | shmen | Thanks |
| 06:11.46 | Inschato | My next step is to add the mass recall effect to the right mouse button |
| 06:12.08 | Kylegar | or right |
| 06:12.16 | Kylegar | dorkass, I hid it |
| 06:12.17 | Kylegar | woops |
| 06:12.19 | Kylegar | one sec |
| 06:12.26 | dorkass | lol at zergling zap |
| 06:12.37 | dorkass | it's like katamari meets uh... killing zerglings |
| 06:12.50 | Xapti | ahh |
| 06:12.57 | Xapti | sc crashed while 50% loading zzerglingzap |
| 06:12.59 | Xapti | i'll try agian |
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| 06:13.50 | Pychnight | .-. |
| 06:13.58 | Gralamin | Awh, I can only store Pi as 3.1416 :( |
| 06:14.05 | Pychnight | any one working on any rpgs yet? |
| 06:14.33 | dorkass | i will be eventually :-x |
| 06:14.48 | dorkass | im gonna remake all the classics first, im doin evolves now |
| 06:14.50 | Kylegar | Inschato how did you hide the bottom UI block? |
| 06:15.08 | Inschato | Show/Hide Game UI |
| 06:15.16 | Inschato | Then I added back the menu+resources after |
| 06:15.18 | Kylegar | ah |
| 06:16.17 | Pychnight | i was thinking, after, i get the uberlisk completely working i make make it into a rpg where the ultralisks goal is to become the uberlisk (only way to do that would be get to level 10) esc. |
| 06:16.24 | Pychnight | silly idea's :D |
| 06:16.47 | liq3 | LOL. |
| 06:16.50 | liq3 | not if you make it funny. |
| 06:16.58 | liq3 | Have silly stuff like an SCV called Bob. |
| 06:17.11 | liq3 | Also make the uberlisk get his abilities slowly.... |
| 06:17.11 | shmen | lings getting zapped. lol |
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| 06:17.18 | liq3 | e.g. he starts growing spines each level at 4+. |
| 06:17.36 | dorkass | can't wait to see some awesome physics |
| 06:17.38 | liq3 | you could make him get hit by toxic waste (the cause of ALL super heroes ;]) at level 4. |
| 06:17.38 | liq3 | :D |
| 06:17.51 | Pychnight | yeah, though, i currently need abit of help on this unit. |
| 06:18.05 | liq3 | lol i don't think ANYONE outside of blizz knows how to make it. |
| 06:18.05 | liq3 | o.o |
| 06:18.11 | dorkass | i wanna make a game like worms, but third person chase-cam |
| 06:18.13 | Mojache | does anyone know how to disable right click |
| 06:18.28 | liq3 | i'm sure there's an action for it. |
| 06:18.34 | Xapti | that camera thing in zergling zap is cool |
| 06:18.39 | Pychnight | the xml tutorial is not exacly converted to galaxy editor strings and methods. i followed that tutorial and found most of the required changes :D |
| 06:18.43 | Xapti | jut need to fix the jitteriness |
| 06:18.56 | Xapti | and then there'll be some awesome games |
| 06:19.00 | Pychnight | i got it semi working :D |
| 06:19.20 | shmen | Pychnight, you can do it all using data editor, takes a bit more time tho.. |
| 06:19.29 | Kylegar | asdf |
| 06:19.35 | Pychnight | i could not find the function "send: |
| 06:19.39 | Xapti | Kylegar, i reccomend you make move foward right click |
| 06:19.43 | Kylegar | hiding the UI makes the leaderboards go away permanently |
| 06:19.47 | Kylegar | why? |
| 06:19.49 | FrozenFirebat | Bah, I still can't seem to get this to work: If (Variable1 == 1); Blah Blah Blah... I'm not concerned about the actions, just getting an event to do that If statement... I feel retarded. |
| 06:19.56 | Xapti | because that's waht an old game used to work l.ike |
| 06:20.04 | Kylegar | hehe |
| 06:20.04 | liq3 | FrozenFirebat: pics. |
| 06:20.09 | Kylegar | I like this :( |
| 06:20.26 | Xapti | you save keyboard for special abilities |
| 06:20.43 | Xapti | and then you move and attack (and aim)with mouse |
| 06:20.44 | Gralamin | So, I'm getting close to being done a working "Lunar Lander" type game in SC2. |
| 06:20.46 | FrozenFirebat | I have no pics, because I can't define a custom Event to do equation operations on variables |
| 06:20.55 | Xapti | cool Bralamin |
| 06:20.59 | Xapti | *gralamin |
| 06:21.08 | Kylegar | woh |
| 06:21.10 | Kylegar | nice |
| 06:21.14 | Kylegar | Convert Circle to Region |
| 06:21.31 | Xapti | Kylegar you think the camera rotation can be made smoother? |
| 06:22.12 | Kylegar | Not without some work by blizzard |
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| 06:22.14 | peterpants | anyone know how to change a rock's texture |
| 06:22.20 | drepacca_ | hey all |
| 06:22.27 | FrozenFirebat | peterpants: sandpaper |
| 06:23.23 | peterpants | FrozenFirebat: thx |
| 06:23.31 | peterpants | does anyone know how to change a rock's texture in galaxy editor? |
| 06:23.38 | FrozenFirebat | XD |
| 06:23.48 | Kylegar | The only way to do mouse look is to enable mouse relative mode as well |
| 06:23.55 | Kylegar | which pans the camera when you move the mouse |
| 06:24.14 | Kylegar | to fix the panning of the camera, I limited the camera to a region ontop of the unit |
| 06:24.38 | Kylegar | and, hilariously, you need to keep re-limiting the camera to that region every .0001 seconds |
| 06:24.43 | Inschato | Kylegar, if you're going to turn off the UI, turn the menu on at least =P |
| 06:25.00 | drepacca_ | anyone make anything cool, I can test out? bored =) |
| 06:25.01 | Kylegar | because if the region moves, the camera limits don't update |
| 06:25.09 | Inschato | It also breaks the leaderboard for some reason too, so frustrating |
| 06:25.10 | Kylegar | Inschato one sec, I'm testing something |
| 06:25.12 | Kylegar | yea |
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| 06:25.28 | Inschato | I want the leaderboard for my game, but not the whole bar at the bottom :/ |
| 06:25.28 | Kylegar | i'm making the archons attack radius scale to his size |
| 06:25.33 | Kylegar | yea |
| 06:25.37 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ by Bifuu |
| 06:25.40 | Kylegar | you get rid of the bar, get rid of the leaderboard |
| 06:27.36 | Xapti | kylegar, you mean the only way to make the unit face the direction you want is to enable relative mode? |
| 06:28.50 | Gralamin | Hmm now How do I show Special Effects... |
| 06:29.04 | Kylegar | no |
| 06:29.07 | Kylegar | camera look |
| 06:29.26 | Kylegar | if you play with my tutorial, you will notice that the unit doesn't turn until it moves |
| 06:29.34 | Kylegar | or if you play Zergling Zap |
| 06:29.46 | NoRoo | Kylegar: why not change that? |
| 06:29.57 | Kylegar | I actually changed to it |
| 06:30.01 | NoRoo | the map I'm working on right now rotates the unit independantly of the |
| 06:30.05 | Kylegar | I had the unit face exactly where the camera was facing |
| 06:30.05 | NoRoo | oh what |
| 06:30.14 | Kylegar | it's not hard |
| 06:30.18 | NoRoo | that didn't work well? seems like it would |
| 06:30.23 | Kylegar | no, it worked fine |
| 06:30.28 | Kylegar | i didnt like it too much |
| 06:30.32 | NoRoo | ah |
| 06:30.34 | Kylegar | didnt fit Zergling Zap too well |
| 06:30.49 | Kylegar | create a trigger that fires every .0001 seconds and set the unit's angle to the camera yaw |
| 06:31.03 | Kylegar | if you use my movement code, it works great |
| 06:31.31 | Bifuu | thats uhh |
| 06:31.33 | NoRoo | that's probably a bit much, seems like triggers I have in a loop with shorter than a 0.01 do not get any faster |
| 06:31.35 | Bifuu | kinda horrible lol |
| 06:31.44 | NoRoo | yeah 0.0001 is really excessive |
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| 06:31.51 | Bifuu | having a trigger that fires like that is blah |
| 06:31.52 | Kylegar | probably |
| 06:31.57 | NoRoo | keep in mind the average monitor vsyncs at 60fps |
| 06:32.06 | Kylegar | well, I like .0001 |
| 06:32.07 | Kylegar | :P |
| 06:32.21 | NoRoo | which means if you have less than 1/60th of a second as a wait, it's entirely wasted in those situations |
| 06:32.25 | Bifuu | that will slow down your map if you keep adding to it |
| 06:32.25 | Kylegar | but it doesn't really matter |
| 06:32.37 | Kylegar | what it means is a quckly fireing trigger |
| 06:32.37 | NoRoo | guh |
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| 06:32.52 | liq3 | Inschato: that random point in region thing, does it select a random spot in the region, or select from "points" in the region? |
| 06:33.01 | Inschato | spot |
| 06:33.02 | Xapti | oh kylegar, you're saying the only way to have mouselook without being able to scroll the camera |
| 06:33.13 | NoRoo | but why have a trigger that updates your camera position fire litterally in this case one hundered times per frame rendered on your screen? |
| 06:33.21 | Xapti | but why is the rotation even jittery though? |
| 06:33.21 | Inschato | So no points are required, and the first 16 in my map are redundant |
| 06:33.32 | Inschato | I think my HDD is dying, and SC2 just crashed ;_; |
| 06:33.38 | Mischgasm | Inoright |
| 06:33.43 | liq3 | lol kk. |
| 06:33.43 | Skizot | Mojache you here? |
| 06:33.46 | Kylegar | argh |
| 06:33.48 | Mojache | yup |
| 06:33.53 | Kylegar | Xapti yes |
| 06:33.54 | Gralamin | Lets see, if I always wanted an effect to appear behind a unit... |
| 06:33.54 | Mischgasm | Mojache streaming? |
| 06:34.00 | Xapti | there's a hotkey and action you can do in sc2 normal games, that focuses camera on 1 unit smoothly though |
| 06:34.10 | Xapti | i wonder why it's not easy to do in the editor |
| 06:34.13 | Mojache | nah not atm |
| 06:34.16 | Kylegar | the reason it's jittery is because I limit the camera to a region |
| 06:34.17 | Kylegar | but |
| 06:34.20 | Mojache | working on my ball buster cannon though |
| 06:34.24 | Kylegar | if the region moves |
| 06:34.28 | Kylegar | then the camera bounds do not update |
| 06:34.29 | Xapti | if you shift+f, or click and hold on the units portrait, it will center on the unit |
| 06:34.30 | Kylegar | which is a bug |
| 06:34.31 | Bifuu | going to bed |
| 06:34.31 | Mojache | ill stream for 15 mins before I head to bed |
| 06:34.32 | Bifuu | night |
| 06:34.41 | Mojache | just to show off what im working on ;p |
| 06:34.43 | Kylegar | so you have to keep updating the region |
| 06:34.45 | Kylegar | every time it moves |
| 06:34.49 | Mischgasm | mojache good :) |
| 06:35.13 | Inschato | checks his SMART values in speedfan |
| 06:35.42 | Inschato | Err, shit |
| 06:35.45 | Inschato | 121 degrees? |
| 06:35.48 | liq3 | Kylegar: oh btw, the panning issue. True locking the camera. :P |
| 06:35.52 | liq3 | try* |
| 06:36.00 | Kylegar | i did |
| 06:36.04 | Kylegar | you can't rotate it |
| 06:36.08 | liq3 | hrm |
| 06:36.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster a228zip (~56439dae@gateway/web/freenode/x-mdadilrrkuxlxhlp) |
| 06:36.24 | a228zip | This editor will make me mad |
| 06:36.31 | Xapti | kylegar, why is the rotation jittery |
| 06:36.32 | a228zip | insane |
| 06:36.46 | Xapti | or at least i thought it was jittery |
| 06:36.52 | a228zip | Is there a way to set the position of a unit while using points? |
| 06:36.53 | Inschato | Meh, SMART must be broken, there's no way my HDD is at 121C.. maybe it's F |
| 06:36.56 | Kylegar | it shouldnt be |
| 06:36.59 | Kylegar | rotation is fine |
| 06:37.05 | Kylegar | but when the object you are following moves |
| 06:37.08 | Kylegar | it gets jittery |
| 06:37.12 | a228zip | or at least a way to set a point's coordinates after creating it ? |
| 06:37.13 | Mischgasm | data editor is making me insane, I perfered triggering abilitys I think. |
| 06:37.19 | Inschato | reboots and opens a window |
| 06:37.23 | Xapti | yeah you are probably right |
| 06:37.30 | Mischgasm | I suppose they're more efficient now though. |
| 06:37.46 | Kylegar | I wish there was a better way of doing it |
| 06:37.52 | NoRoo | I can't get the data editor to do much for me yet :\ |
| 06:37.56 | Kylegar | cause right now, my method works around two bugs |
| 06:37.59 | lolwut_ | wow im so lost |
| 06:38.05 | lolwut_ | on |
| 06:38.06 | lolwut_ | nvm |
| 06:38.08 | lolwut_ | sigh |
| 06:38.11 | lolwut_ | im dumb |
| 06:38.13 | lolwut_ | :p |
| 06:38.13 | Mischgasm | lolwut |
| 06:38.25 | Kylegar | 1) enabling mouse look doesn't work unless the camera has mouse input |
| 06:38.26 | a228zip | Please tell me |
| 06:38.39 | a228zip | There is a way to change a point's coordinate after creating it ? |
| 06:38.48 | Kylegar | there is no other way to enable mouse input for the camera then to lock relative mode |
| 06:38.52 | Kylegar | which pans the camrea |
| 06:38.54 | Mischgasm | set point x = number |
| 06:39.00 | Mischgasm | seems kinda obvious |
| 06:39.00 | a228zip | or a way to set a unit's position through direct coordinates ? |
| 06:39.03 | liq3 | Kylegar: i bet this is a bug. |
| 06:39.12 | Kylegar | so I limit the camera to a region, but that limitaion doesn't move with region |
| 06:39.13 | Kylegar | yea |
| 06:39.14 | a228zip | set point.x ? |
| 06:39.14 | Kylegar | two bugs |
| 06:39.16 | a228zip | It works ? |
| 06:39.22 | Mischgasm | Just make a point variable |
| 06:39.31 | Mischgasm | Then you can set it to differant things |
| 06:39.41 | Mischgasm | Does ge have globals? |
| 06:39.43 | Kylegar | if a camera is locked to a region, and the region moves, the camera lock doesn't follow is the most annoying though |
| 06:39.47 | Kylegar | that's the reason it's jiuttery |
| 06:39.49 | liq3 | oh man that'd be cool. Ima try that lol. |
| 06:39.50 | a228zip | I can do it directly to the unit then |
| 06:39.56 | Kylegar | because I have to keep re-locking the camrea to the region |
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| 06:40.43 | NoRoo | really seems like there should be an easy way to bind the camera to a unit, you know since that's a default characteristc in the game (hold mouse on portrait) |
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| 06:41.13 | a228zip | dot syntax doesn't work with native classes |
| 06:41.17 | Slam_ | morning |
| 06:41.51 | Kylegar | woop |
| 06:41.52 | Inschato | Hmm, my CPU dropped 20 degrees from that reboot+window |
| 06:41.57 | Kylegar | the radius now scales with the archon |
| 06:42.11 | AngryAmish | wow they're patching sc2 |
| 06:42.17 | AngryAmish | maybe its to fix that terrible zergling bug |
| 06:42.20 | AngryAmish | er zerg bug |
| 06:42.46 | a228zip | so |
| 06:42.49 | Kylegar | whats wrong with zerglings? |
| 06:42.52 | Kylegar | I haven't played it |
| 06:42.54 | a228zip | is there a way to change a point's coordinate after creating it ? |
| 06:42.55 | Kylegar | since the patch |
| 06:42.57 | AngryAmish | zerg in particular |
| 06:43.01 | Kylegar | a228zip yes |
| 06:43.03 | NoRoo | a228zip: Set PointVar = point(newX,newY) |
| 06:43.05 | AngryAmish | can rush with lots of zerglings very quickly |
| 06:43.07 | pile | canceling drones keeps larvae |
| 06:43.10 | AngryAmish | they changed how larva work |
| 06:43.11 | AngryAmish | yeah |
| 06:43.15 | Kylegar | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1940586/ZERGLINGZAP.SC2Map |
| 06:43.15 | a228zip | NoRoo that creates a new point |
| 06:43.17 | Kylegar | new version |
| 06:43.25 | NoRoo | a228zip: No, it doesn't |
| 06:43.42 | Inschato | Kyle why not make a sc2mapster project, easily to keep track of versions and such |
| 06:43.46 | NoRoo | a228zip: it sets the value of your point varible to the value returned from point(x,y) |
| 06:43.47 | Xapti | Kylegar |
| 06:43.57 | Xapti | the problem was every time he moves (even without adjusting camera) |
| 06:43.59 | Xapti | it's jittery |
| 06:44.11 | a228zip | NoRoo: sounds like creating a new point for me |
| 06:44.32 | NoRoo | a228zip: did you see me create a new varible? |
| 06:44.39 | a228zip | NoRoo: You mean point or Point ? |
| 06:44.52 | Inschato | Daaaaaamnit I think I managed to corrupt my sc2 files |
| 06:44.53 | NoRoo | a228zip: you set the value of your existing point varible to a new point |
| 06:45.03 | a228zip | NoRoo: new point |
| 06:45.18 | Kylegar | Xapti i don't know how jittery it is for you |
| 06:45.22 | Kylegar | it's not that bad for me |
| 06:45.32 | a228zip | NoRoo: I want to edit my existing point, not the value of my variable |
| 06:45.57 | NoRoo | a228zip: okay I'll try explaining it again |
| 06:46.11 | Mischgasm | mojache stream soon |
| 06:46.15 | a228zip | NoRoo: I'll test it |
| 06:46.20 | NoRoo | a228zip: step one, create a point varible, lets say P, initialize it with an X and Y |
| 06:46.30 | pile | link some more maps, im bored |
| 06:46.45 | a228zip | yep |
| 06:46.52 | a228zip | P = Point(X,Y) |
| 06:46.54 | NoRoo | a228zip: next step reassign your point to the new cordinates you want by creating a new point and assigning the value of that point to your previously used point varible |
| 06:47.19 | a228zip | NoRoo: So I need to create a new point to edit my point. |
| 06:47.19 | NoRoo | a228zip: that means you have one and only one point varible (P) |
| 06:47.36 | Xapti | it's quite annoyingly kittery |
| 06:47.38 | NoRoo | a228zip: your P varible is a reference to a point |
| 06:47.39 | Xapti | *jittery |
| 06:47.51 | Xapti | every halfsecond maybe |
| 06:47.54 | Xapti | when he's moving |
| 06:48.01 | NoRoo | a228zip: so reference it to a new point, if you want to say it that way |
| 06:48.23 | NoRoo | a228zip: understand that you're not allocating space for a second varible or anything |
| 06:48.47 | a228zip | NoRoo: I am allocating space for a new point; that's exactly what I want to avoid |
| 06:49.09 | a228zip | lv_pos = PointWithOffset(lv_pos, gv_xMovKey[lv_i], gv_yMovKey[lv_i]); |
| 06:49.14 | Inschato | "points" make me think of pointers and confuses the heck out of me that way <_< |
| 06:49.15 | Xapti | i don't know if it's just me, but was the game menu disabled for zerglingzap? |
| 06:49.21 | Xapti | like hte hotkey? |
| 06:49.28 | Xapti | maybe it's just not f10 anymore |
| 06:49.29 | Inschato | It's not just you, he was messing around with settings =X |
| 06:49.29 | lolwut_ | just generated a syntax error with the GUI editor, awesome |
| 06:49.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster ript1de (lastnode@simula.gunkies.org) |
| 06:49.42 | ANdyBear22 | How can I make the entire map have no Fog of war? Revieled 100% of the time. |
| 06:49.43 | NoRoo | a228zip: your original point is garbage collected |
| 06:49.54 | Inschato | Create a map revealer trigger ANdyBear22 |
| 06:49.56 | NoRoo | a228zip: since it no longer has a reference |
| 06:50.10 | a228zip | NoRoo: I thought so, but noticed leaks. |
| 06:50.28 | a228zip | I should give you the map I guess |
| 06:50.46 | Xapti | map properties |
| 06:50.47 | Xapti | options |
| 06:50.54 | Xapti | andybear |
| 06:50.55 | NoRoo | a228zip: I'm very confident re assigning your reference did not result in a leak, this is a very common and acceptable method of dealing with objects like this |
| 06:51.11 | Kylegar | SC2 has a garbage collector |
| 06:51.14 | Kylegar | there are no leaks |
| 06:51.18 | a228zip | NoRoo: no problems with megaupload ? |
| 06:51.20 | Kylegar | in the scripting language |
| 06:51.25 | Kylegar | in the editor though... |
| 06:51.27 | Kylegar | holy crap |
| 06:51.30 | a228zip | That's not what the memory taken says, Kylegar |
| 06:52.01 | NoRoo | a228zip: Remember in SC2 API, if you have a variable of the type int, and you ; Varible - Set MyInt = 5+10; |
| 06:52.09 | Kylegar | are you sure that it's leaking? I remember very clearly Blizz talking about how thier scripting language uses a GC |
| 06:52.20 | NoRoo | a228zip: you've done the same thing, your int variable was actually reference to an int |
| 06:52.29 | Skizot | fuuuck. |
| 06:52.35 | Skizot | i have two choices.. |
| 06:52.50 | Skizot | a nice and silk smooth camera, or a CORRECT third person cam. |
| 06:52.51 | a228zip | I know there is a garbage collector; that doesn't mean it works perfectly |
| 06:52.54 | Gralamin | Okay stuff left to do: Keyboard controls, reset functionality, Leaderboard. |
| 06:53.01 | a228zip | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U4QDJGD3 |
| 06:53.07 | zifoon | patch update for larva exploit |
| 06:53.09 | a228zip | move the marine around with wasd |
| 06:53.15 | a228zip | you'll see |
| 06:53.20 | Skizot | ? |
| 06:53.35 | Kylegar | a228zip you can't trust it not to |
| 06:53.40 | Kylegar | i wouldn't worry about a leak |
| 06:53.46 | Kylegar | they can fix the gc |
| 06:53.51 | Kylegar | your code isn't wrong |
| 06:53.57 | NoRoo | a228zip: there are about a billion things that would cause a memory leak before this, if you actually have a leak it could be any where in the core SC2 engine |
| 06:54.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Cronos (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net) |
| 06:54.24 | a228zip | NoRoo: Please try |
| 06:54.35 | Skizot | a228 wanna take a look at my map? |
| 06:54.37 | a228zip | NoRoo: It happens to leak more as I move the unit |
| 06:54.49 | Skizot | it's not the CLEANEST, but it does the job. |
| 06:54.55 | a228zip | Skizot: Why not, but what do you want me to look at ? |
| 06:54.59 | Kylegar | I highly doubt that it's something we can control |
| 06:55.03 | Kylegar | also |
| 06:55.06 | a228zip | Mine's could be cleaner too |
| 06:55.09 | a228zip | mine* |
| 06:55.10 | Kylegar | what are you using to check for memory leaks? |
| 06:55.21 | a228zip | Don't know the english name >.> |
| 06:55.27 | Kylegar | link? |
| 06:55.43 | a228zip | It's built in windows |
| 06:55.58 | a228zip | I just see that the memory used increases a lot while I move around |
| 06:56.10 | Skizot | http://skizot.ziggyware.com/rpg1.sc2map <- simple rpg map. |
| 06:56.26 | dorkass | to dynamically add all players to leaderboard, you'd do a player group - pick each player loop? I'm having a bitch of a time getting this shit to work |
| 06:56.26 | NoRoo | a228zip: megaupload says unavailable |
| 06:56.31 | Skizot | my attack needs ALOT of work.. i stoled the idea from Mojache |
| 06:56.37 | Kylegar | oh |
| 06:56.41 | Mojache | wait till you see |
| 06:56.43 | Kylegar | you are looking at the task manager |
| 06:56.45 | Mojache | some of my new attacks |
| 06:56.45 | Mojache | rofl |
| 06:56.50 | Kylegar | that tells you nothing |
| 06:56.51 | a228zip | yep, Kylegar |
| 06:56.54 | Skizot | lol i mean the "click to shoot" one |
| 06:57.05 | zifoon | this patch update is taking forever for a patch that just fixes one thing |
| 06:57.05 | Skizot | my problem is the little bastards don't attack half the time. |
| 06:57.06 | a228zip | How does that tell me nothing ? it tells me SC2 takes more and more memory |
| 06:57.08 | Xapti | Kylegar, do you know what might be causing the movement stuttering? |
| 06:57.18 | Kylegar | Xapti I have alot of ideas, none that I can fix |
| 06:57.27 | dorkass | does anyone have a fully working leaderboard that dynamically loads up based on active players? |
| 06:57.27 | Kylegar | the main thing is |
| 06:57.32 | Skizot | give that one a try though Mojache, the smooth 3rd person might be what you want. |
| 06:57.42 | Kylegar | they need a way to give the camera mouse input |
| 06:57.45 | Kylegar | in script |
| 06:57.48 | Kylegar | that doesn't exist |
| 06:57.48 | Skizot | the BETTER third perso is glitchy but CORRECT |
| 06:57.49 | Mojache | nah im not gonna do a 3rd person game for now |
| 06:58.42 | Kylegar | also, a228zip, using the task manager to watch memory useage is like eyeballing a wooden table to see if it's level |
| 06:58.58 | Kylegar | there are real tools to check for leaks, none that we can use |
| 06:59.02 | Kylegar | with SC2 |
| 06:59.09 | a228zip | I know |
| 06:59.13 | a228zip | I don't have better either |
| 06:59.23 | Kylegar | however |
| 06:59.26 | a228zip | Skizot : quite nice |
| 06:59.34 | Kylegar | SC2's JASS is garbage collected |
| 06:59.34 | Grum | [08:53:10] <zifoon> patch update for larva exploit <-- what is that? :) |
| 06:59.47 | liq3 | jass? |
| 06:59.48 | a228zip | please don't call it JASS |
| 06:59.54 | Kylegar | whatever it is |
| 06:59.58 | a228zip | Galaxy |
| 07:00.00 | Grum | GS! |
| 07:00.01 | a228zip | that's what it is |
| 07:00.02 | liq3 | lol jass.... sounds sexual. |
| 07:00.13 | a228zip | It was fucked up indeed liq3 |
| 07:00.13 | Kylegar | Galaxy is annoying to type, but, anyway |
| 07:00.18 | Kylegar | it's garbage collected |
| 07:00.32 | Kylegar | you can drop refrences, it's nbd |
| 07:00.48 | Skizot | so did you ry it a22? |
| 07:00.49 | Kylegar | if it memory leaks, it's not your fault |
| 07:00.55 | Kylegar | and it will be fixed by blizzard |
| 07:01.05 | a228zip | indeed, nothing I can do about it |
| 07:01.20 | liq3 | grum: some people figured out you can get more then 3 larva early on by canceling building of units. |
| 07:01.26 | a228zip | I can't even delete the point myself like I'd do in WC3 |
| 07:01.28 | liq3 | hink 12 ling 6 pool. |
| 07:01.28 | HBHades | is there any good reference material out there yet? or did blizz make us learn on our own |
| 07:01.30 | HBHades | ? |
| 07:01.35 | Grum | liq3: k, lets see how they fixed it :) |
| 07:01.41 | liq3 | HBHades: All alone again... |
| 07:01.42 | liq3 | >.> |
| 07:01.49 | HBHades | damn |
| 07:01.51 | Kylegar | HBHades there are all kinds of tooltips and shit inside the editor |
| 07:01.52 | ShadowTiger | they fixed it by making you lose 50 minerals but get the larvae back |
| 07:01.54 | ShadowTiger | lol j/k |
| 07:02.22 | dorkass | there's api documentation at sc2mapster.com |
| 07:02.27 | dorkass | and a wiki |
| 07:02.27 | Grum | wtf |
| 07:02.33 | Kylegar | you can also access that inside the trigger editor |
| 07:02.38 | Grum | why did they repatch the datafiles of 15097 |
| 07:02.38 | Kylegar | has more readable info |
| 07:02.42 | HBHades | cool ill have to continue to read for updates |
| 07:02.54 | Grum | i now have 2 fucking major big patch.SC2Archive |
| 07:03.02 | Grum | both for 15097 and 15133 |
| 07:03.17 | Kylegar | spinning d20 like a boss |
| 07:03.23 | Kylegar | while I think of what I'm doing |
| 07:03.29 | liq3 | d20? |
| 07:03.31 | HBHades | simple question...did anyone play castle fight for war3? |
| 07:03.36 | Kylegar | a dice with 20 sides |
| 07:03.40 | a228zip | i did |
| 07:03.48 | liq3 | Man I need a map idea. :( |
| 07:04.01 | HBHades | im looking to make a barracks auto spawn marines |
| 07:04.03 | NoRoo | a228zip: Your map does not have a memory leak as far as I can tell |
| 07:04.03 | Kylegar | I think i'm going to turn the archon into a hero |
| 07:04.06 | HBHades | and im at a loss |
| 07:04.07 | Grum | liq3: rising water/lava which hurts |
| 07:04.14 | Grum | i can do the rising water shit but it doesnt hurt |
| 07:04.19 | Grum | and it looks kinda strange |
| 07:04.20 | liq3 | I think I might port Lurker Zone from Sc1. |
| 07:04.21 | Kylegar | make a region |
| 07:04.22 | liq3 | That ma pwas EPIC. |
| 07:04.29 | Kylegar | where the lava can move up |
| 07:04.32 | a228zip | NoRoo: What the task manager shows is still troubling. |
| 07:04.33 | liq3 | exceptt i'll do it with marines and hellions. :D |
| 07:04.34 | Kylegar | and hurt all units int hat region |
| 07:04.44 | ShadowTiger | im holding a beta key contest for people to give me ideas : P |
| 07:04.46 | Kylegar | a228zip look at the editor too |
| 07:04.47 | Grum | Kylegar: but i then have to make a LOT of regions |
| 07:04.52 | NoRoo | a228zip: nothing my task manager shows me is troubling regarding this |
| 07:04.52 | Mischgasm | HBHades, I would use triggers |
| 07:04.57 | Kylegar | I had GE running for 5 hours and it was at 2.5gb of memory |
| 07:04.59 | NoRoo | a228zip: what are you seeing on yours? |
| 07:04.59 | Grum | to follow the smooth transistion of the lava |
| 07:05.06 | Kylegar | then it crashed |
| 07:05.22 | Gralamin | Stuff left to do: reset functionality, Leaderboard. |
| 07:05.26 | warturtle | What's up with all the unit shapes like icasohedron |
| 07:05.32 | warturtle | that just for abilities? |
| 07:05.40 | a228zip | I'm seeing that the memory taken increases a lot more when I move the marine than when I don't move it |
| 07:05.42 | HBHades | misch: im working with triggers |
| 07:05.54 | Kylegar | oh wow |
| 07:05.54 | NoRoo | a228zip: I have observed no such behaviour |
| 07:06.03 | dorkass | this leaderboard shit is driving me nuts, nothing fuckin works except static values |
| 07:06.04 | Kylegar | if you close all the windows in the galaxy editor |
| 07:06.06 | Mischgasm | How do you do private chat in this? I don't remember lol. |
| 07:06.07 | Kylegar | it doesnt close |
| 07:06.12 | HBHades | problem is that when the racks goes up i cant find a way to get the location |
| 07:06.21 | dorkass | pound? #dorkass skdfj |
| 07:06.24 | dorkass | #dorkass kjda |
| 07:06.25 | dorkass | nm |
| 07:06.54 | Mischgasm | #Hbhades |
| 07:06.57 | Mischgasm | ? |
| 07:06.59 | Skizot | http://skizot.ziggyware.com/rpg1.sc2map <- awesome third person example map! |
| 07:07.06 | HBHades | #hades |
| 07:07.08 | Mischgasm | I played it skiz |
| 07:07.12 | a228zip | awesome indeed |
| 07:07.17 | Skizot | lol trying to get input :P |
| 07:07.20 | a228zip | How much time did you need Skizot ? |
| 07:07.21 | Mischgasm | It gets a bit laggy when you look at the horizon |
| 07:07.22 | NoRoo | a228zip: I think you haven't anticipated the overhead of the SC2 engine properly, you don't know what it's doing it might decide to seemingly randomly create and free it's own objects |
| 07:07.28 | dorkass | someone make a map that dynamically creates a leaderboard based on players, and shows an updating kill count |
| 07:07.29 | Mischgasm | what kind of input would you like |
| 07:07.36 | dorkass | none of the shit i do works |
| 07:07.42 | a228zip | NoRoo: I would like when it'll free them |
| 07:07.43 | Skizot | well did you try both camera modes? |
| 07:07.52 | Mischgasm | I believe so |
| 07:07.55 | Skizot | dork... that sounds easy. |
| 07:08.00 | dorkass | it does, doesn't it? |
| 07:08.03 | Skizot | smooth and better |
| 07:08.06 | a228zip | NoRoo: Because I'll end up with a lagging map after a few dozen minutes if it continues this way |
| 07:08.12 | NoRoo | a228zip: but what I see here is it goes up slighty in the first 20 seconds, then stays within a mb the entire time, which appears to just be the result of SC2 and not your map |
| 07:08.31 | a228zip | I guess you tried moving the marine around ? |
| 07:08.37 | NoRoo | a228zip: I don't see it increasing endlessly, it stops increasing pretty quick and stays solid |
| 07:09.08 | a228zip | I have a rather slow increase when nothing happens, but it accelerates when I move the marine |
| 07:09.30 | NoRoo | a228zip: I mean you have like almost no code in this map you can pretty quickly read the triggers and decide that there are no busy loops exploding your stack, nor is there any use of a data structure that could possibly lead to a memory leak |
| 07:09.38 | NoRoo | a228zip: you're fine, don't worry about it |
| 07:09.48 | HBHades | misch: #Hbhades ? |
| 07:09.51 | a228zip | NoRoo I sure hope so =/ |
| 07:10.18 | Grum | + <Flags index="KillOnCancel" value="1"/> :p |
| 07:10.21 | a228zip | NoRoo I'm trying to have as few script as I can afford, any idea on how to make it better ? |
| 07:10.24 | Grum | that is how they fixed the larva exploit ;) |
| 07:10.42 | Mischgasm | Hades |
| 07:10.45 | HBHades | yo |
| 07:10.46 | Mischgasm | here's what you do |
| 07:10.47 | NoRoo | a228zip: I can say with complete certainty, that if there IS a memory leak here, there's absolutely nothing you you can do to stop it because it's an internal problem |
| 07:10.49 | Mischgasm | make a periodic |
| 07:11.01 | a228zip | Still |
| 07:11.06 | Mischgasm | select all units on map of type (building you want) |
| 07:11.07 | a228zip | I can't understand why we have to use points |
| 07:11.19 | a228zip | And why we can't delete them ourselves |
| 07:11.20 | Mischgasm | Spawn spawning unit corresponding to building |
| 07:11.25 | Mischgasm | at buildings loc |
| 07:11.40 | Mischgasm | then move spawned unit |
| 07:11.43 | HBHades | how would i get the building loc |
| 07:11.43 | Mischgasm | to other base |
| 07:11.47 | HBHades | thats my problem |
| 07:11.50 | NoRoo | a228zip: I use 2 real variables for mine |
| 07:12.00 | Mischgasm | There's gotta be a trigger for it |
| 07:12.08 | HBHades | ill take a look... |
| 07:12.19 | Grum | are there any patchnotes for the lava fix? |
| 07:12.20 | HBHades | another look |
| 07:12.20 | a228zip | NoRoo What do you mean ? you can move units using coordinates directly ? |
| 07:12.23 | Grum | larva .. i cant find them |
| 07:12.36 | HBHades | stealth fix? |
| 07:12.52 | Grum | yeah another patch9 update |
| 07:12.57 | NoRoo | a228zip: store the values as an X and Y, when the time comes to move the unit pass point(X,Y) as the parameter |
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| 07:13.00 | Grum | 15097 -> 15133 |
| 07:13.21 | a228zip | NoRoo Oh |
| 07:13.32 | a228zip | Noroo I just realized I was creating 4 points or so |
| 07:13.39 | Grum | humz anyone playing terran? |
| 07:13.40 | a228zip | Could be better indeed |
| 07:13.42 | a228zip | I do |
| 07:13.44 | Grum | what do techlabs costs? |
| 07:13.44 | qwebirc63766 | any way to allow more than 8 terrain textures into a map? |
| 07:13.55 | NoRoo | a228zip: I set up a basic physics system for some inertia, it made more sense for me to leave them as X and Y |
| 07:13.58 | a228zip | 50/25 in patch 8, patch notes didn't say it changed |
| 07:14.08 | Grum | its 50/0 now |
| 07:14.13 | a228zip | Wow |
| 07:14.16 | Mischgasm | Battle.net is back online with patch 10 up |
| 07:14.18 | Grum | - <InfoArray index="Build1" Unit="BarracksTechLab" Time="25"> |
| 07:14.18 | Grum | - <Resource index="Vespene" value="25"/> |
| 07:14.18 | Grum | + <InfoArray index="Build1" Unit="BarracksTechLab"> |
| 07:14.31 | a228zip | I guess it makes sense, tech lab allows you to build units requiring vespene |
| 07:14.33 | Mischgasm | Fixed larva glitch |
| 07:14.35 | Grum | and instabuild O.o |
| 07:14.35 | a228zip | so you need it anyway |
| 07:14.36 | lolwut_ | patch 10? |
| 07:14.59 | Grum | that is in <CAbilBuild id="BarracksAddOns" parent="TerranAddOns"> |
| 07:15.04 | Grum | and in <CAbilBuild id="FactoryAddOns" parent="TerranAddOns"> |
| 07:15.06 | NoRoo | a228zip: you're not making extra points, are you talking about the last trigger where you declare some references to points but don't store a value in them? |
| 07:15.08 | Grum | - <InfoArray index="Build1" Unit="FactoryTechLab" Time="25"> |
| 07:15.08 | Grum | - <Resource index="Vespene" value="25"/> |
| 07:15.08 | Grum | + <InfoArray index="Build1" Unit="FactoryTechLab"> |
| 07:15.14 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.16 | a228zip | skizot: The zerglings' hitbox seem bugged |
| 07:15.17 | Grum | - <InfoArray index="Build1" Unit="StarportTechLab" Time="25"> |
| 07:15.17 | Grum | - <Resource index="Vespene" value="25"/> |
| 07:15.17 | Grum | + <InfoArray index="Build1" Unit="StarportTechLab"> |
| 07:15.21 | NoRoo | a228zip: those aren't points, those are pointers to points |
| 07:15.24 | a228zip | I'm talking about the UpdatePos |
| 07:15.31 | Grum | Mischgasm: url please to patchnotes |
| 07:15.40 | a228zip | You mean Point(x,y) doesn't create a point ? I.. don't understand |
| 07:15.46 | Grum | i got another patch pushed but it was named patch 9 |
| 07:15.50 | Mischgasm | +grum I'm just reading it as it updates |
| 07:15.52 | ript1de | yeah |
| 07:15.57 | ript1de | it was just to fix larvae bug |
| 07:15.59 | Mischgasm | +grum google it |
| 07:15.59 | ript1de | and hatchery rally bug |
| 07:16.13 | Grum | gah just give me the url already :'( |
| 07:16.24 | Grum | there are not up on the usual location |
| 07:16.56 | Grum | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23094049316&sid=5000 <-- still at 9 and mentioning nothing on larva |
| 07:17.24 | Mischgasm | Hmm |
| 07:17.32 | Mischgasm | Well larva is all you really need to know |
| 07:17.40 | Mischgasm | No balancing changes |
| 07:17.42 | Grum | no moe has changed as i just said |
| 07:17.52 | Grum | yes, tech addons for terran no longer cost gas |
| 07:18.10 | Grum | so yes, more has changed |
| 07:18.17 | Cerebral | lol so, I couldn't figure out why test document wasn't showing any of the changes that I had made. The patch downloader was causing the problem. I was pulling my hair out there for a minute. |
| 07:18.25 | NoRoo | a228zip: Point(x,y) creates a point, but if you do not store a reference to that point, it just gets garbage collected. |
| 07:18.57 | a228zip | NoRoo: Well, you said "you're not making extra points", hence the confusion. |
| 07:19.05 | a228zip | It'd better be garbage collected =D |
| 07:19.37 | a228zip | But I'm quite sure creating one point is shorter than creating four |
| 07:19.45 | ript1de | does anyone know, if a custom map has more than 4 starting locations and you play it on bnet via the method mentioned on your forunms, does the game screen /lobby have more than 4 slots? |
| 07:19.50 | ript1de | im assuming no? |
| 07:19.57 | NoRoo | a228zip: just think of it as, you don't have more points in memory than you have pointer references, (which you have 2) |
| 07:20.24 | a228zip | And once the function ends, the local are destroyed and there's no reference at all. |
| 07:21.09 | shmen | Anyone know how do i export/import an unit to another map? |
| 07:21.15 | NoRoo | a228zip: correct locals are on the stack and are invalid once you leave that scope |
| 07:21.24 | zifoon | ha? larva exploit was fixed an hour ago |
| 07:21.25 | zifoon | O_O |
| 07:21.29 | zifoon | patch 10 |
| 07:21.32 | NoRoo | a228zip: (and are thusly assumed to be garbage collected) |
| 07:21.41 | Grum | zifoon: give me patch10 patchnotes please |
| 07:21.44 | NoRoo | patch 10 fixed a major bug that made zerg unbeatable |
| 07:21.48 | NoRoo | that looks like it |
| 07:21.50 | AngryAmish | i've been askin all night.. anyone know how to make attacks go in a straight line and hit the first thing it contacts? |
| 07:21.52 | zifoon | ye |
| 07:21.57 | Grum | stop talking about patch10 unless you ahve patchnotes ... seriously |
| 07:22.03 | AngryAmish | (sorry that sounded more emo then i ment it) |
| 07:22.08 | zifoon | http://us.starcraft2.com/launcher/patch-notes.htm |
| 07:22.08 | NoRoo | the patch notes are in the updator |
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| 07:22.10 | a228zip | AngryAmish: You mean instantly ? |
| 07:22.15 | zifoon | wtf u on about? |
| 07:22.16 | NoRoo | the patch is live... |
| 07:22.20 | zifoon | I'm on my patch 10 playing |
| 07:22.23 | zifoon | O__O |
| 07:22.28 | a228zip | is b.net EU still down ? |
| 07:22.31 | warturtle | Amish would need projectiles |
| 07:22.31 | AngryAmish | yeah, damages the first unit it hits |
| 07:22.31 | shmen | Anyone know how do i export/import an unit to another map? |
| 07:22.39 | NoRoo | fixed an issue with larva, fixed an issue with zerg rally points, that's it |
| 07:22.40 | warturtle | whihc no one has made yet |
| 07:22.41 | AngryAmish | currently mine expode on my guy whe they shoot them |
| 07:22.52 | AngryAmish | so he shoots, hits himself, and then hurts himself |
| 07:23.19 | NoRoo | yes yes please some one help us figure out how to create some basic projectiles ;_____; |
| 07:23.40 | Bladezor | Hey |
| 07:23.42 | warturtle | yeah you have to wait till someone figures out how to make projectiles, or finds them inside teh GE hidden away |
| 07:23.45 | Bladezor | Can someone mirror the latest patch? |
| 07:23.46 | warturtle | or some crazy hack |
| 07:24.00 | Bladezor | For some reason it's getting hung up on sc2-0.11.0.15097-0.11.0.15133-x86-Win-enUS-locale |
| 07:24.03 | Bladezor | and it's only 8kb |
| 07:24.33 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sunken-d/. Sunken D. Tomed (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:24.35 | a228zip | angryamish : you would need to check if the first unit you come across isn't the firer himself |
| 07:24.37 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/catalyst/. Catalyst. Eiviyn (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:24.41 | a228zip | or an ally even |
| 07:24.42 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zergling-zap/. ZERGLING ZAP. Kylegar (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:24.45 | NoRoo | warturtle: what do you mean? are we missing something in the editor needed to make them? |
| 07:24.47 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zero-clutter/. Zero Clutter. nicknack32 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:24.51 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/quite-predicament/. Quite a Predicament?. LiQuiDPwNiuM (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:24.56 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tipsntutorials/. Tips and Tutorials demo. Linera (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:25.01 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/uber-l/. Uberlisk: Legends. Pychnight (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:25.02 | a228zip | Is Repo a bot ? |
| 07:25.05 | warturtle | well I don't think SC2 supports projectile attacks like you would want |
| 07:25.06 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tipsntutorials/. Tips and Tutorials demo. Linera (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 07:25.06 | a228zip | ~8ball |
| 07:25.07 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: My sources say no |
| 07:25.07 | AngryAmish | i', not doing this through triggers, a22 |
| 07:25.14 | AngryAmish | well |
| 07:25.20 | AngryAmish | it supports ballistics |
| 07:25.20 | NoRoo | warturtle: they were showcased at blizzcon, simple projectiles |
| 07:25.31 | AngryAmish | i can get my guys to fire in a straight line |
| 07:25.34 | warturtle | with hit detection? |
| 07:25.36 | AngryAmish | its the hitting the first target thats not me |
| 07:25.39 | a228zip | angryamish How did you do your current thing then ? |
| 07:25.39 | NoRoo | warturtle: we had them in warcraft 3 also |
| 07:25.39 | warturtle | against flying units too |
| 07:25.46 | warturtle | not straight away |
| 07:25.57 | AngryAmish | you can set the mover object for an attack to be ballistic |
| 07:26.06 | AngryAmish | and edit the properties so it flies in a straight line |
| 07:26.08 | Gralamin | Alright time to test this thing, and laugh at my horrible bugs. |
| 07:26.11 | AngryAmish | ballistics don't track |
| 07:26.13 | AngryAmish | then |
| 07:26.17 | lolwut_ | i've got a trigger when a unit enters a region to spawn another region, any way that i can apply it over 40 different regions without copy and pasting? |
| 07:26.23 | warturtle | do they collide with air units/ground units etc? |
| 07:26.31 | NoRoo | warturtle: yes |
| 07:26.36 | AngryAmish | if the unit that i'm attacking stands still, it hits fine |
| 07:26.38 | AngryAmish | if they move, it misses |
| 07:26.40 | AngryAmish | which is perfect |
| 07:26.47 | warturtle | based on the model or just x,y location? |
| 07:26.48 | NoRoo | I'm able to heavily modify trajectories on existing unit's weapons like the viking |
| 07:26.49 | AngryAmish | but it won't hit something that it missed |
| 07:26.57 | AngryAmish | this is a built-in attribute |
| 07:26.58 | AngryAmish | no triggers |
| 07:27.00 | Slam_ | Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where Larva were not dying after being cancelled. ( On EU Realms) |
| 07:27.09 | Slam_ | and EU are Open now |
| 07:27.13 | Gralamin | Well thats a good starting bug... |
| 07:27.14 | NoRoo | warturtle: to get it to do pretty much whatever, hense my screenshot from earlier http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs452.snc3/25900_1452953043694_1229319285_1352188_2311904_n.jpg |
| 07:27.40 | AngryAmish | wartutle: wanna help me figure this out? |
| 07:28.04 | warturtle | yeah but that doesn't account for collision.. like if the unit you target has another unit infront |
| 07:28.05 | Xapti | are those nukes? |
| 07:28.05 | warturtle | etc |
| 07:28.10 | AngryAmish | right |
| 07:28.19 | AngryAmish | there is another attribute that does that, i think |
| 07:28.32 | AngryAmish | the problem is that the attacking unit always hits itself |
| 07:28.43 | NoRoo | warturtle: yeah, what AngryAmish is saying |
| 07:28.44 | AngryAmish | cause it creates the projectile, and it collides with itself |
| 07:28.45 | warturtle | do the models even have collision information besides on a 2d plane? if that |
| 07:28.54 | NoRoo | warturtle: they do |
| 07:28.58 | AngryAmish | only care about 2d at this point |
| 07:29.00 | ShadowTiger | cant you offset the attack in front of themselves? |
| 07:29.01 | AngryAmish | and they do |
| 07:29.06 | NoRoo | if you fire a missile down, it colides with the ground |
| 07:29.16 | AngryAmish | i tried using an offset, but it didn't do anything |
| 07:29.20 | NoRoo | that doesn't cause an explosion but it detects teh collision |
| 07:29.27 | a228zip | skizot, still there ? |
| 07:29.29 | Xapti | if you shoot at a hatchery, it will bleed where you shoot it |
| 07:29.34 | warturtle | does that work on units too? |
| 07:29.39 | warturtle | oh |
| 07:29.54 | AngryAmish | the problem is that we can't get the projectile past the firing unit |
| 07:29.57 | AngryAmish | it always hits itself |
| 07:30.18 | Xapti | although i guess my example doesn't mean it's in the game code, just client side |
| 07:30.34 | Grum | cheers for the link zifoon |
| 07:30.56 | ShadowTiger | well worst case you could go w3 and make a dummy shooter hahaha |
| 07:31.15 | Gralamin | Hmm, Do I have to manually enable showing leaderboards if I hide most of the UI? |
| 07:31.36 | AngryAmish | ok |
| 07:31.48 | Inschato | If you hide the bottom part of the UI, I haven't found any way to get leaderboards to show up (believe me I tried) |
| 07:31.56 | liq3 | anyone played Hydra Lurker Zone in SC:BW? |
| 07:32.16 | Gralamin | Inschato: Hmm, damn. |
| 07:32.24 | warturtle | can you upload the map where it hits yourself? |
| 07:32.24 | Gralamin | Since that was what I was trying to do. |
| 07:32.24 | shmen | liq3: i think so |
| 07:32.36 | liq3 | shmen: it was hydra zone, but with lurkers as defense. |
| 07:32.51 | liq3 | It was also really well balanced. Ima port it to sc2. :} |
| 07:33.17 | Xan | is there an AI editor?? |
| 07:33.19 | shmen | oh i think i remember it, it was fun |
| 07:33.20 | Xan | ?* |
| 07:33.29 | liq3 | shmen: yeh, best zone control map. |
| 07:33.32 | AngryAmish | yeah, let me make one real fast |
| 07:34.25 | shmen | liq3: let me know if you make any progess :P |
| 07:34.38 | liq3 | well trigger wise it should be easy... |
| 07:34.45 | liq3 | My only issues will be upgrades and the actual terrain. xD |
| 07:35.05 | Gralamin | Damnit. I need to get the leaderboards and custom dialogs to show with hidden UI somehow. |
| 07:35.06 | liq3 | I'm also gonna use marines and hellions probably... |
| 07:35.07 | shmen | humm |
| 07:35.13 | liq3 | Instead of hydras/lurks. xD |
| 07:35.28 | HBHades | wait is there a way to manually script this...the ui stuff is slow as hell |
| 07:35.41 | HBHades | and lacking |
| 07:35.44 | shmen | im quite bad at triggers, could take a loot at the upgrades tho |
| 07:35.47 | Pychnight | oh people :D http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/uber-l/files/1-uberlisk-legends/ |
| 07:36.00 | Gralamin | Pychnight: You are my hero |
| 07:36.03 | Xapti | is tit good? |
| 07:36.09 | Pychnight | uberlisk legends alpha, don't expect much atm |
| 07:36.26 | Pychnight | i still got a few all nighters to go before i get it working 100% |
| 07:36.46 | Pychnight | [needs more coffie] |
| 07:36.47 | lolwut_ | does unit death trigger a unit leaving a region? |
| 07:36.54 | Xapti | is there camera follow and mouseview/mouserotate? |
| 07:37.04 | Xapti | or what |
| 07:37.23 | ShadowTiger | i believe only movement triggers leaving a region |
| 07:37.36 | ShadowTiger | stuff like blink should work too |
| 07:37.58 | Xapti | does the camera follow the ultra? |
| 07:40.51 | shmen | liq3: ima take a break (almost 5am lol) send me a pm, i can try help with the upgrades |
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| 07:41.48 | warturtle | what data variable changes the mover to hit first target it contacts? |
| 07:42.47 | AngryAmish | its |
| 07:43.26 | AngryAmish | art-impact location + |
| 07:43.58 | AngryAmish | i have been working with marauders |
| 07:44.11 | AngryAmish | and i always do it to the MarauderLM effect |
| 07:44.33 | AngryAmish | change it to outer unit and he should hit himself |
| 07:47.06 | Pychnight | i have a ton of ideas, i could do for new ability's, i have a theory on how to make spore launchers fire units :D |
| 07:48.51 | Pychnight | (images Random Sling shot siege tank shoots Zergling across the map with the text Weee Following it :D |
| 07:49.38 | peterpants | if you scale a unit but have a different death model for it, how do you scale just the death model |
| 07:50.27 | peterpants | would it have to be done with triggers? when unit dies scale it back? |
| 07:50.40 | AngryAmish | any luck? |
| 07:51.40 | Bladezor | Argh can anyone mirror the latest patch for me :( |
| 07:51.51 | Gralamin | Hmmm Any rounding or Flooring functions? |
| 07:51.54 | Bladezor | that 8kb file isn't downloading |
| 07:53.13 | warturtle | no just crazy results lol |
| 07:53.34 | warturtle | the banshee Im testing fires it's attack, the missiles hang in air for 10 seconds then travel to that same banshee hitting it |
| 07:53.35 | AngryAmish | i have the feeling its in there |
| 07:53.40 | AngryAmish | hmm |
| 07:53.44 | AngryAmish | i might send you a map here in a bit |
| 07:53.45 | warturtle | its funny |
| 07:54.21 | warturtle | where did you get the variable "outerunit' |
| 07:54.22 | warturtle | ? |
| 07:54.36 | AngryAmish | hmm? |
| 07:54.41 | AngryAmish | not me |
| 07:55.04 | warturtle | are there other options for target type? |
| 07:55.25 | HBHades | how would i pass a variable to a trigger? |
| 07:55.25 | AngryAmish | you mean the art impact? yes |
| 07:55.27 | AngryAmish | but |
| 07:55.37 | AngryAmish | thats the only one that looks to make sense, to me |
| 07:55.49 | AngryAmish | you don't want it to impact yourself, or a point |
| 07:55.54 | AngryAmish | cause a point just goes somewhere and blwos up |
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| 07:56.58 | Iggyhopper | hi |
| 07:57.00 | Xapti | man SC2 editor needs to support middle mouse autoscroll |
| 07:57.07 | Xapti | how can people live without it |
| 07:57.23 | warturtle | yeah point doesnt do anything |
| 07:57.34 | Xapti | point doesn't do anything? |
| 07:59.19 | peterpants | what controls a roach's movement such that he like jitters as he moves, sometimes pausing for a second |
| 08:00.21 | Xapti | good question |
| 08:00.39 | Iggyhopper | point? |
| 08:00.39 | Xapti | hey there's no way to change doodad data is there? (through the data editor) |
| 08:00.45 | Iggyhopper | you mean putting points on the map? |
| 08:00.50 | Xapti | all i saw was footprint data for doodads |
| 08:00.56 | Gralamin | Hey, anyone have time to look at a map and help me with a few problems? (Preferably someone good with UI and Dialogs, but any help could be nice) |
| 08:01.23 | Bemoliph | Xapti |
| 08:01.31 | Bemoliph | Doodads are under Actors in the Data Edtor |
| 08:01.34 | Bemoliph | Editor* |
| 08:01.36 | Xapti | oh |
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| 08:01.50 | Xapti | right i guess they are just actors + footprints |
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| 08:02.10 | Iggyhopper | What's that status? What are you guys working on right now? |
| 08:02.16 | Iggyhopper | Dialogs? |
| 08:02.19 | Iggyhopper | Units? |
| 08:02.25 | Gralamin | Iggy: I'm working on UI/Dialog mostly |
| 08:02.38 | Iggyhopper | kool |
| 08:02.48 | Gralamin | http://www.gralamin.com/Lunar%20Lander.zip <- Thats where I am currently, for anyone interested |
| 08:02.57 | Iggyhopper | lunar lander? |
| 08:03.01 | Gralamin | Yes |
| 08:03.01 | Iggyhopper | sounds.... interesting |
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| 08:03.06 | Gralamin | The Lunar Lander game |
| 08:03.09 | Iggyhopper | oooooo |
| 08:03.10 | Gralamin | I implemented it mostly, In SC2 |
| 08:03.13 | Iggyhopper | no way? |
| 08:03.27 | Gralamin | Yes way |
| 08:03.30 | Iggyhopper | that game is like old old right? |
| 08:03.38 | Gralamin | Though there are some problems (I have a readme in there stating the problems) |
| 08:03.40 | Gralamin | Yeah |
| 08:03.41 | Gralamin | Really old |
| 08:03.53 | Iggyhopper | googling... i heard about it, seen it, need refresher |
| 08:04.20 | Iggyhopper | how did you manage that?!?! |
| 08:05.17 | Gralamin | I'm made of awesome |
| 08:05.26 | Iggyhopper | lots, indeed |
| 08:05.34 | Gralamin | But there are still quite a few bugs. |
| 08:06.01 | Iggyhopper | so you got unit movement? |
| 08:06.03 | Mojache | are there any units |
| 08:06.05 | Mojache | that have an ability |
| 08:06.07 | Iggyhopper | with perodic events? |
| 08:06.17 | Mojache | that lays down something bad to stand in |
| 08:06.22 | Mojache | like fire or poison etc |
| 08:06.24 | Gralamin | Iggy: I have unit movement |
| 08:06.32 | Gralamin | I have working Physics mostly accurate to the moon |
| 08:06.33 | Xapti | Pychnight |
| 08:06.41 | Xapti | i noticed you used a mass of LOS blockers |
| 08:06.50 | Xapti | if you edit the scale of htem, you can use less of htem |
| 08:06.53 | Gralamin | What I'm having trouble with is A) Somehow making a leaderboard appear when the UI is hidden |
| 08:06.59 | Gralamin | B) Making my Dialog appear |
| 08:07.06 | Xapti | although there's a limit to their individual scales, |
| 08:07.11 | Gralamin | C) Getting the Actor to rotate better. |
| 08:07.12 | Xapti | so you can make their default scale larger |
| 08:07.21 | Xapti | and it works really cool |
| 08:07.27 | Iggyhopper | hide ui, and unhide leaderboard? |
| 08:07.46 | Gralamin | Can't seem to. Take a look and see if you can |
| 08:07.57 | Iggyhopper | if i can :( |
| 08:07.57 | warturtle | show the leaderboard after you hide ui? |
| 08:08.07 | Iggyhopper | he did, says not working |
| 08:08.08 | warturtle | works for menu |
| 08:08.16 | Xan | how do you make a local variable global? |
| 08:08.36 | peterpants | anyone know what controls a roachs jerky behavior when he moves? sometimes pausing for a second |
| 08:09.04 | Iggyhopper | Xan, right click in the triggers list on the left, and then add variable. |
| 08:09.15 | Sixen | Is Battle.net down? |
| 08:09.29 | Xan | but then it will show up in the trigger list :/ |
| 08:09.46 | peterpants | that's the only way |
| 08:09.48 | Gralamin | ...Oh shit. Its 2 AM. I should probably go to sleep. |
| 08:09.51 | peterpants | put them in a folder |
| 08:09.55 | Gralamin | Guess I'll work this out in the morning. |
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| 08:11.30 | Xan | is there any way to create associative arrays? |
| 08:11.32 | GralSleep | Iggyhopper: If you find out anything, PM. |
| 08:11.36 | Iggyhopper | k |
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| 08:11.38 | GralSleep | Thanks for taking a look |
| 08:11.49 | BlueGhostie | looks like a bunch of nerds |
| 08:12.58 | Mischgasm | If your saying that in this channel, your being a hypocrite |
| 08:13.05 | BlueGhostie | ;) |
| 08:13.17 | BlueGhostie | surprised it took so long |
| 08:13.20 | BlueGhostie | for a response |
| 08:13.21 | BlueGhostie | haha |
| 08:13.24 | warturtle | I got no idea on making projetiles that work :/ |
| 08:13.24 | Mischgasm | :P |
| 08:13.28 | BlueGhostie | like these people are asleep |
| 08:13.35 | Mischgasm | Warturtle |
| 08:13.39 | Sixen | Nobody sleeps. We wait. |
| 08:13.49 | Mischgasm | I was watching moch's steam earlier |
| 08:14.02 | Mischgasm | He made an invisable flying baneling or something |
| 08:14.10 | Sixen | Haha, yeah |
| 08:14.10 | BlueGhostie | i think people have been having problems with projectiles all day |
| 08:14.13 | warturtle | that's a little different |
| 08:14.13 | Mischgasm | attatched a rocket model to it's head |
| 08:14.18 | BlueGhostie | haha |
| 08:14.24 | Mischgasm | and used it as a projectile |
| 08:14.36 | BlueGhostie | anyone know how to use animations in triggers? |
| 08:14.43 | ANdyBear22 | Its really hard to understand what you need to link, and what you need to duplicate when creating custom units and buildings... |
| 08:14.46 | warturtle | it's not that good of one though |
| 08:14.54 | Mischgasm | Andy I agree |
| 08:14.57 | Mischgasm | I found a tutorial |
| 08:14.58 | peterpants | what causes a roaches jittery movement as he moves? sometimes pausing? anyone know? |
| 08:14.58 | Mischgasm | helped |
| 08:15.05 | AngryAmish | to make a projectile? |
| 08:15.05 | ANdyBear22 | oh yeah? |
| 08:15.11 | Iggyhopper | peterpants no |
| 08:15.11 | Skizot | well |
| 08:15.12 | warturtle | Andy you can view a Tree view of units etc |
| 08:15.14 | Mischgasm | yeah one sec |
| 08:15.16 | warturtle | and it shows what you need to modify |
| 08:15.18 | Skizot | who was asking about the leaderboard? |
| 08:15.22 | Iggyhopper | peterpants check in movers, and uh |
| 08:15.29 | Iggyhopper | units, behaviors |
| 08:15.33 | warturtle | and it's easy from there |
| 08:15.39 | peterpants | behvaiors empty, movers same as any other unit :/ |
| 08:15.39 | Mischgasm | andy |
| 08:15.40 | Mischgasm | this |
| 08:15.41 | Mischgasm | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/428-misc-beginner-video-tutorial/#p5 |
| 08:15.43 | Mischgasm | and |
| 08:15.44 | warturtle | you can see all teh abilities a unit has, actors, sounds, etc |
| 08:15.45 | ANdyBear22 | I'll check out that tree view too |
| 08:15.48 | Inschato | Skizot you better not have found a way to make it work, I just finished hashing out my dialog scoreboard :P |
| 08:15.54 | ANdyBear22 | Thanks Mischgasm |
| 08:16.16 | Mischgasm | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/creating-your/ |
| 08:16.18 | Mischgasm | that to |
| 08:16.39 | Mischgasm | I'm basically waiting for more tutorials |
| 08:16.51 | Mischgasm | because at this point me and the data editor are enemys |
| 08:16.56 | Skizot | well i have it selecting all players and adding them to a leaderboard. |
| 08:17.11 | AngryAmish | misch, thats just changing the targeting of hunter seeker |
| 08:17.42 | Mischgasm | Second one helps more with what he was asking |
| 08:17.52 | Mischgasm | I just figured he would like them both |
| 08:17.53 | Xapti | i dislike several thigns about the editor that really hamper my productivity |
| 08:17.55 | ANdyBear22 | i'll look at both ^_^ |
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| 08:18.02 | Xapti | #1 it doesn't support my custom DPI very well |
| 08:18.12 | Mischgasm | DPI? |
| 08:18.13 | Sixen | Lol, Misch. |
| 08:18.24 | Xapti | #2, some GUI elements seem to be missing or are not obvious (such as unattaching something yo uattached) |
| 08:18.41 | Xapti | #3 i can't find anything I want to, lol |
| 08:18.45 | Sixen | Skizot, are you the same person from Project Revolution? |
| 08:18.58 | AngryAmish | you sure you understand what we're looking for? we want a unit to attack, and have its attack do hit detection and hit the first unit it encounters |
| 08:19.02 | Sixen | Xapti, right-click & modify link. |
| 08:19.06 | AngryAmish | hopefully without triggers |
| 08:19.06 | Xapti | #4, doesn't seem to save viewing settings, such as panel widths and column widths and stuff |
| 08:19.09 | Skizot | yes? |
| 08:19.18 | Sixen | Just asking. |
| 08:19.36 | Sixen | I talked to you looong ago about it. Long ago. |
| 08:19.58 | Mojache | anyone know how to remove |
| 08:20.04 | Mojache | a tech from an ability |
| 08:20.11 | dorkass | is there like a console? I think arrays aren't working like I expect them to |
| 08:20.22 | Inschato | Alt+` |
| 08:20.48 | dorkass | ah thank god |
| 08:20.59 | Inschato | help would be a good starting command |
| 08:21.52 | Mischgasm | Mojache |
| 08:21.59 | Mischgasm | That first link I posted |
| 08:22.03 | Mischgasm | should help you |
| 08:22.12 | Mischgasm | Fast forward a bit |
| 08:22.16 | Inschato | Mojache in the Ability --> Commands + --> Select the ability then hit the x at the bottom right |
| 08:22.46 | BlueGhostie | anyone know how to make a terran beacon not dissappear? |
| 08:25.41 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/e-vac-beta/. E-VAC (beta). MetalheadMikecosio (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 08:25.53 | dorkass | anyone know wtf to do about e_arrayindexoverflow errors? |
| 08:26.23 | Grum | well dont make to big arrays or access things which arent indices of it perhaps? |
| 08:26.34 | warturtle | ummm |
| 08:26.38 | Sixen | Vjeux |
| 08:26.40 | Sixen | I smell you. |
| 08:26.43 | HBHades | any way you could run an alternate action if the triggers conditions fail? |
| 08:26.53 | dorkass | see that's the shit of it, I can access any index with an int, but I can't use any integer variables as a key |
| 08:26.56 | Grum | yes you have if-else statements |
| 08:27.04 | Grum | so you can make that and put the condition in the 'if' |
| 08:27.12 | peterpants | where is it defined you have to build a buildling on creep |
| 08:27.28 | HBHades | so full conditional scripting then |
| 08:27.31 | Grum | i think i saw a 'IsOnCreep' behaviour orso, probably linked to that |
| 08:27.56 | peterpants | that makes it die if it's off creep |
| 08:28.03 | Skizot | i can't get the stupid leader board to have a VLAUE |
| 08:28.05 | Skizot | VALUE |
| 08:28.27 | Grum | HBHades: just think of the trigger editor as a code generator |
| 08:29.01 | dorkass | like if I'm tryin to update the leaderboard text to array(Picked player) in a pick each player loop, it never works, but array(3) does, for example |
| 08:29.03 | HBHades | how do i pm? isnt it /pm (username)? |
| 08:29.22 | Skizot | yeah it's dumb. |
| 08:29.23 | Grum | http://github.com/grum/sc2-dev/commit/120bf56416eb989e30987ceb066072362c91ff67 <-- Beta Patch 10 |
| 08:29.28 | Skizot | it's /msg |
| 08:29.30 | Grum | funny that they changed more than just the larva exploit |
| 08:29.39 | Grum | they also change techlab costs and mentioned nothing |
| 08:29.49 | AngryAmish | how much |
| 08:30.00 | Grum | 50/25 -> 50/0 so it seems |
| 08:30.18 | Grum | http://github.com/grum/sc2-dev/commit/120bf56416eb989e30987ceb066072362c91ff67#L3L1186 |
| 08:30.40 | BlueGhostie | lol that rally point thing was confusing the hell out of me earlier |
| 08:30.49 | Iggyhopper | what larva exploit? |
| 08:30.53 | Iggyhopper | Gruim |
| 08:30.55 | Iggyhopper | Grum |
| 08:31.02 | BlueGhostie | when you cancel an egg it didnt kill the larva |
| 08:31.08 | BlueGhostie | so people would 6 pool |
| 08:31.09 | Iggyhopper | orly? |
| 08:31.12 | BlueGhostie | then build drones and cancel |
| 08:31.18 | BlueGhostie | so theyd have 5 larva without a queen |
| 08:31.29 | Iggyhopper | i see |
| 08:31.56 | BlueGhostie | yah 10 lings out before anyone had units pretty much lol |
| 08:32.30 | Grum | the fix for that was completely trivial btw :) |
| 08:32.44 | Grum | + <Flags index="KillOnCancel" value="1"/> |
| 08:32.45 | Grum | :D |
| 08:32.49 | BlueGhostie | lol |
| 08:32.56 | Iggyhopper | ooo i never even noticed that |
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| 08:33.48 | BlueGhostie | lol oops my updater was sitting here yelling at me to close GE and i was watching a movie thinking "man this patch is taking a while" |
| 08:34.13 | Sixen | lol |
| 08:34.39 | Grum | the message it gave me was not so straighforward :) |
| 08:34.44 | peterpants | wow that's complicated |
| 08:34.45 | zifoon_ | man this editor is stopping me from playing sc2 |
| 08:34.57 | Grum | zifoon_: why? |
| 08:35.02 | zifoon_ | I was plat in b4 but editor is just so fun |
| 08:35.12 | Grum | hehe |
| 08:35.13 | BlueGhostie | hahah |
| 08:35.14 | peterpants | i hate it when GE crashes |
| 08:35.29 | lolwut_ | does anyone know anything about getting objects from data table? |
| 08:35.37 | BlueGhostie | i wish they would just unlock the portraits during beta, like anyone is every going to play enough games before a wipe |
| 08:35.38 | lolwut_ | im trying to grab a region |
| 08:35.54 | peterpants | ya the new portraits are lame lol |
| 08:35.56 | monoframe | Blue, what do you mean by "unlock"? |
| 08:35.57 | monoframe | ohg |
| 08:36.17 | BlueGhostie | like, win 50 games as Zerg and get the cool decal and fancy portrait |
| 08:36.30 | zifoon_ | I think I got data editor and trigger editor down, I'm just studying techniques, mostly watching other ppl's map builds |
| 08:36.37 | BlueGhostie | im never going to win 50 games before the next reset haha |
| 08:36.45 | BlueGhostie | stuck as the doofy people |
| 08:36.51 | Grum | zifoon_: any suggestions on making 'lava hurt' ? :) |
| 08:37.03 | BlueGhostie | does the lava move? |
| 08:37.06 | zifoon_ | lava don't dmg? |
| 08:37.10 | zifoon_ | doing* |
| 08:37.13 | monoframe | Grum, use regions |
| 08:37.14 | Grum | it doesnt zifoon_ |
| 08:37.16 | monoframe | and arrange damage counter |
| 08:37.21 | zifoon_ | effect |
| 08:37.24 | zifoon_ | there is a trigger |
| 08:37.28 | monoframe | say "do 15 damage every 3 seconds" |
| 08:37.29 | zifoon_ | that triggers effect on map |
| 08:37.52 | peterpants | i believe in wc3 you could make a trigger that determind if a unit was standing on a certain tile? maybe something like that for lava unless the lava is water |
| 08:38.03 | Grum | yeah, the problem is that if you want to do it nicely with a lava rising effect you will have about 100 regions close to eachother |
| 08:38.11 | zifoon_ | true |
| 08:38.12 | Grum | the lava is water |
| 08:38.15 | peterpants | or perhaps make a trigger that picks all units that are below x height |
| 08:38.17 | monoframe | Why 100? |
| 08:38.23 | monoframe | Some zones are not-enterable |
| 08:38.30 | monoframe | Or do you want those to damage air units also? |
| 08:38.58 | Grum | mono: to allow for the gradual movement of the lava |
| 08:39.08 | Grum | i was planning to do a 'flood map' of kinds |
| 08:39.15 | Grum | where you have some spots that get 'flooded' with lava |
| 08:39.21 | monoframe | Doesn't it have the "gradual raise" mechanics |
| 08:39.23 | Grum | periodically |
| 08:39.26 | monoframe | Or just "Straight bump"? |
| 08:39.35 | Mischgasm | anyone else currently gringing their way through the evac map? |
| 08:39.36 | Grum | it has the gradual rising that is not the problem |
| 08:39.40 | Mischgasm | It's a really nice map |
| 08:39.42 | Grum | the problem is letting the damage go with it |
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| 08:39.59 | monoframe | ohhh |
| 08:40.01 | monoframe | I now get it |
| 08:40.04 | Grum | Mischgasm: dont say stuff like that without the link: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/e-vac-beta/ |
| 08:40.16 | Mischgasm | :P |
| 08:40.17 | monoframe | So you want the damage regions to also get gradual? (from game-wise standpoint) |
| 08:40.23 | zifoon_ | but evac I'm sure they just kill the units |
| 08:40.29 | zifoon_ | if larva rises |
| 08:40.38 | Grum | monoframe: well a unit should only get hurt when he's standing IN the lava ofc |
| 08:40.49 | monoframe | I know, I know |
| 08:41.04 | zifoon_ | wait |
| 08:41.05 | zifoon_ | I got it |
| 08:41.09 | zifoon_ | look at zerg creep |
| 08:41.27 | monoframe | zifoon, it's still one big in-built region |
| 08:41.33 | Grum | oooh i could make a 'lavacreep' that moves iwth the lava? O.o |
| 08:41.34 | monoframe | it doesn't get "gradual" from one side to another |
| 08:41.49 | zifoon_ | no u could make lavacreep in theory |
| 08:41.55 | zifoon_ | u can have more than 1 creep |
| 08:42.01 | BlueGhostie | can you share a screen shot of your map layout so i can see the how the lava will flow? |
| 08:42.01 | monoframe | take alook in the in-built triggersets |
| 08:42.11 | monoframe | you should find something on that |
| 08:42.16 | zifoon_ | we got to test it first |
| 08:42.32 | zifoon_ | but that would seem hard |
| 08:42.33 | BlueGhostie | theres a typo in the evac intro |
| 08:42.33 | peterpants | where do i make a new armor type |
| 08:42.38 | BlueGhostie | rendez-vous |
| 08:42.43 | BlueGhostie | not rendefu |
| 08:43.00 | monoframe | yikes |
| 08:43.04 | JamesObscura | Sorry I'm just getting started mapping, can anyone tell me what the field is for build time? |
| 08:44.00 | Grum | BlueGhostie: its not a regular straightforard layout, i want to ahve it working for all kinds of terrains |
| 08:44.02 | Mischgasm | I can check quick. |
| 08:44.24 | Grum | Mischgasm: for some reason non of the texts seem to work on that map |
| 08:44.42 | zifoon_ | ye that's y larva template from zreeps would be good, but how would u make it surge? |
| 08:44.42 | Grum | i just see: "Param/Value/XXXXXXXX" :) |
| 08:44.51 | monoframe | Whoah, you can convert WC3 map terrain to one usuable by GE |
| 08:44.52 | zifoon_ | creep* |
| 08:44.55 | Iggyhopper | how do i order units to move? |
| 08:45.07 | monoframe | Iggypopper, use regions |
| 08:45.14 | Iggyhopper | k |
| 08:45.21 | Mischgasm | +grum your talking about the evac map? Works fine for me. |
| 08:45.34 | monoframe | Or you could simply make one unit use regions |
| 08:45.39 | monoframe | while others are "following" him |
| 08:45.56 | Grum | Mischgasm: how did you start it? |
| 08:46.00 | Grum | open in editor and play? |
| 08:46.23 | warturtle | I wonder why they didnt include projectiles |
| 08:46.31 | warturtle | that we could use for a variety of uses :/ |
| 08:46.35 | JamesObscura | Also can anyone tell me how to edit the tech tree? |
| 08:46.39 | Iggyhopper | monoframe how, what? |
| 08:46.45 | Mischgasm | +grum just loaded it up and hit test document |
| 08:46.45 | peterpants | anyone know how to make a new armor type |
| 08:47.10 | Mischgasm | +grum you live in us> |
| 08:47.11 | zifoon_ | they do have projectiles |
| 08:47.28 | monoframe | Like the one Orc campaign mission from WC3 where you had to aid and follow Kodos P: |
| 08:47.29 | warturtle | they are pretty limited it seems |
| 08:47.30 | zifoon_ | O__O im so confused |
| 08:47.36 | zifoon_ | no they are most flexible |
| 08:47.49 | zifoon_ | u can slow them down with other skills also |
| 08:47.56 | Iggyhopper | confuz'd |
| 08:47.59 | zifoon_ | u can make a unit shoot projectiles |
| 08:48.08 | zifoon_ | u can make projectiles be normal units |
| 08:48.08 | monoframe | Iggypopper, Are you using only one unit to move, or a mass of them? |
| 08:48.12 | Iggyhopper | one |
| 08:48.13 | Grum | Mischgasm: no |
| 08:48.20 | zifoon_ | u can make projectiles have wierd curve |
| 08:48.21 | monoframe | Oh, then use regions |
| 08:48.24 | Iggyhopper | how? |
| 08:48.24 | Inschato | I think they're hardcoded in peterpants |
| 08:48.26 | monoframe | you can make several or just use one |
| 08:48.28 | zifoon_ | and u can ... u get my point |
| 08:48.29 | monoframe | Press R |
| 08:48.31 | monoframe | and make some |
| 08:48.32 | Iggyhopper | oh ok |
| 08:48.33 | Mischgasm | +Grum I do, it may make a differance |
| 08:48.35 | Iggyhopper | triggers |
| 08:48.40 | Iggyhopper | i need to order unit to move |
| 08:48.40 | warturtle | yes you can make all those wierd curves |
| 08:48.41 | zifoon_ | projectiles are pretty flexible in GE |
| 08:48.44 | Grum | i think it does |
| 08:48.45 | monoframe | And then trigger the unit to go to that "region" |
| 08:48.49 | Grum | there are no enGB locales |
| 08:48.50 | warturtle | but make a ball bounce around and damage units it hits |
| 08:48.52 | Iggyhopper | ooo wat |
| 08:48.54 | Fisker | hey Grum |
| 08:48.59 | Iggyhopper | i cant even find something like that |
| 08:49.01 | monoframe | ok, lemme open it up |
| 08:49.18 | warturtle | or have a turret that can shoot in directions and hits the first unit it meets |
| 08:49.19 | zifoon_ | it seems possible |
| 08:49.25 | warturtle | air included |
| 08:49.32 | zifoon_ | y not? |
| 08:49.42 | warturtle | you only have 2 options for targets |
| 08:49.48 | warturtle | a point or a target unit |
| 08:50.08 | zifoon_ | now im confused |
| 08:50.15 | zifoon_ | are u linking effects together? |
| 08:50.26 | zifoon_ | u can link effects for multiple instances |
| 08:50.32 | warturtle | like say you have a marine, and fire straight forward |
| 08:50.44 | zifoon_ | and.... |
| 08:50.49 | peterpants | any ideas on how to make a new armor ype |
| 08:50.49 | warturtle | it's really hard to hit the first unit infront of you |
| 08:50.50 | peterpants | type* |
| 08:51.00 | warturtle | without just creating a baneling type thing |
| 08:51.09 | warturtle | aka using projectiles |
| 08:51.24 | warturtle | projectiles are good if you know the target |
| 08:51.55 | warturtle | but if something moves infront of your target and you want to hit that, it doesn't work |
| 08:52.01 | Mischgasm | Has anybody came up with an efficient way to make projectiles yet? |
| 08:52.10 | Mischgasm | I've only seen mocho's baneling |
| 08:52.18 | warturtle | thats no collision detection in it |
| 08:52.23 | Inschato | Mine isn't a projectile |
| 08:52.25 | Inschato | :( |
| 08:52.31 | Iggyhopper | monoframe, anything? |
| 08:52.32 | warturtle | except on the target you select |
| 08:52.38 | zifoon_ | hmmm, that's true but it doesn't have to be from data editor |
| 08:52.39 | monoframe | still searching |
| 08:52.43 | monoframe | so hard to get used to D: |
| 08:52.44 | zifoon_ | u can make it with trigger |
| 08:52.52 | warturtle | ? |
| 08:53.18 | zifoon_ | ok, I'll give u an example, like arrow from priest of the moon in dota? |
| 08:53.34 | Mischgasm | Last boss on evac was so close to getting me |
| 08:53.40 | Mischgasm | one more hit I would have been dead |
| 08:53.52 | Grum | Mischgasm: lol i cant get past the first 2 packs of the lings :p |
| 08:54.04 | ShadowTiger | maybe you can combine the hellion attack logic and the hunter seeker missle logic to create the effect you want... |
| 08:54.07 | zifoon_ | btw evac map is awesome |
| 08:54.09 | Mischgasm | +Grum use the laser turrent |
| 08:54.17 | Grum | 'use it' ? :) |
| 08:54.25 | Grum | you mean run like a baby and have it kill em? |
| 08:54.53 | Mischgasm | +grum indeed :) |
| 08:54.59 | Inschato | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/3-whackaling-v0-0-3/ |
| 08:55.00 | Inschato | GOGO |
| 08:55.15 | Mischgasm | Updated insch? |
| 08:55.18 | Inschato | I must admit the changes aren't very impressive, but it took ages to figure out :P |
| 08:55.18 | qwebirc74934 | the default view in the editor is from top down, how can i adjust it? |
| 08:55.23 | Mischgasm | I played it earlier today |
| 08:55.28 | zifoon_ | warturtle u there? I figured out how to do the collision detection without coding a lot |
| 08:55.36 | Inschato | Play again, gotta make sure it works properly on everyone's computers =P |
| 08:55.44 | warturtle | how |
| 08:55.44 | Inschato | Tweaked the difficulty too :p |
| 08:55.53 | Mischgasm | In a sec then |
| 08:55.56 | Mischgasm | last boss on evac |
| 08:56.02 | zifoon_ | add a point defence drone on a unit, radius what u want the collision to be |
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| 08:56.20 | zifoon_ | and when it is used, make a trigger to trigger an effect that dmg the unit |
| 08:56.36 | warturtle | ok that works for 2d |
| 08:56.40 | Grum | Mischgasm: it claims to have first person view but how to activate it? :) |
| 08:56.46 | zifoon_ | it works for air units also |
| 08:57.00 | warturtle | yeah but it wont be affected by height of the projectile |
| 08:57.03 | zifoon_ | point defence drone is XY related |
| 08:57.09 | zifoon_ | hmmm |
| 08:57.17 | warturtle | so it works for a limited case |
| 08:57.39 | zifoon_ | so u want projectiles to work like XYZ plane for FPS or TPS? |
| 08:57.43 | Grum | wtf is Ronvenue? :p |
| 08:57.45 | warturtle | can you make the point defense drone trigger and not kill the projectile? |
| 08:57.59 | zifoon_ | I'll look into that right now |
| 08:58.00 | warturtle | well my earlier example of a bouncing ball |
| 08:58.04 | peterpants | how do you make custom attributes |
| 08:58.12 | warturtle | then you could get teh height of the projectile and the target |
| 08:58.13 | warturtle | and compare |
| 08:58.14 | ANdyBear22 | I created a custom unit (SCV) and a custom building (Cannon), and a custom ability (SCV Build) but now my SCV doesn't have a buil command, and ideas? |
| 08:58.27 | Mischgasm | +grum no idea, didn't even notice it claimed that |
| 08:58.36 | Mischgasm | Very anti-climatic ending tho |
| 08:58.40 | Mischgasm | lol |
| 08:58.41 | zifoon_ | ye |
| 08:58.49 | zifoon_ | u can make point defence drone not kill the object |
| 08:58.59 | zifoon_ | it deals dmg to the projectile, that's how it works |
| 08:59.01 | warturtle | and you would have 3d collision detection for projectiles.. |
| 08:59.02 | Iggyhopper | patch 10 now? |
| 08:59.07 | Sixen | yeah |
| 08:59.17 | Iggyhopper | wow |
| 08:59.24 | zifoon_ | yeah just checking the z axis after that would work |
| 08:59.37 | Mischgasm | =grum I think he meant Ron-De-Vuu, not sure how you spell that |
| 08:59.41 | warturtle | cool cool :) |
| 09:00.02 | Mischgasm | 4:00 in the morning |
| 09:00.08 | warturtle | are you testing it out or should I? |
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| 09:00.12 | Mischgasm | I think it's time for me to fucing go to bed |
| 09:00.16 | Iggyhopper | monoooooo |
| 09:00.16 | zifoon_ | u go test it |
| 09:00.20 | zifoon_ | im working on something |
| 09:00.20 | warturtle | :( ok |
| 09:00.24 | Sixen | Rendezvous |
| 09:00.29 | Sixen | Ron-De-Vuu, hehe |
| 09:00.33 | Kylegar | yay |
| 09:00.33 | Mischgasm | :P |
| 09:00.40 | Kylegar | my zergling zapper is a hero now |
| 09:00.47 | Sixen | Nice, Kylegar. |
| 09:00.49 | Iggyhopper | monoframe :( |
| 09:00.52 | monoframe | Iggihopper, I'll make an example map for you :3 |
| 09:00.54 | Sixen | Should've been easy though, no? :P |
| 09:00.58 | monoframe | you can then shovel it over |
| 09:00.58 | Iggyhopper | k thx a lot |
| 09:01.11 | Iggyhopper | i need it for my frogger/ffa/ctf map |
| 09:01.22 | Sixen | We should make a giant Mapster collaboration map |
| 09:01.28 | Sixen | That'd be kickass |
| 09:01.29 | zifoon_ | wait warturtle |
| 09:01.58 | zifoon_ | I think the PDD has a classification on it |
| 09:02.18 | warturtle | ? |
| 09:02.19 | Grum | anyone having problems extracting maps made with the sc2 editor using ladiks mpq ? |
| 09:02.23 | zifoon_ | nvm |
| 09:02.27 | zifoon_ | all u have to do is |
| 09:02.35 | zifoon_ | trigger a different effect instead of dmg |
| 09:03.09 | zifoon_ | Point Defence Drone has 3 parts trigger , dmg and applying behavior |
| 09:03.31 | zifoon_ | make the trigger not trigger the dmg effect |
| 09:03.32 | lolwut_ | anyone have any ideas on how to detect if a unit dies within a region? |
| 09:03.44 | Iggyhopper | unit dies |
| 09:03.48 | Iggyhopper | check region |
| 09:03.52 | zifoon_ | rofl^ that |
| 09:04.16 | warturtle | im still checking through how PDD works in the data |
| 09:04.20 | lolwut_ | heh, didn't explain myself well at all, nvm |
| 09:04.42 | peterpants | how do you make a new attribute like 'massive' 'armored' 'light' |
| 09:05.04 | Iggyhopper | Untitled Trigger 001 |
| 09:05.04 | Iggyhopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.04 | Iggyhopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.04 | Iggyhopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.04 | Iggyhopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.05 | Iggyhopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.08 | ANdyBear22 | What did I do to make the build icon disapear from my SCV? |
| 09:05.36 | Iggyhopper | ANdyBear22 commandcards |
| 09:05.41 | Iggyhopper | in Unit |
| 09:05.53 | ANdyBear22 | Its in there though... |
| 09:06.03 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 09:06.07 | Iggyhopper | you mean triggerS? |
| 09:06.12 | ANdyBear22 | I dont think so.. |
| 09:06.14 | zifoon_ | "set" triggers "dmg", "dummy" and "behavior" |
| 09:06.41 | Iggyhopper | edit the command card and take out bild |
| 09:06.52 | liq3 | Anyone know an easy way to let players upgrade to 255 or higher? |
| 09:06.58 | monoframe | yeah, iggypopper, i'm kind of baffled, can't seem to find "direct unit to region" action command D: |
| 09:07.02 | liq3 | I'm trying to figure it out... |
| 09:07.04 | Iggyhopper | um |
| 09:07.11 | Iggyhopper | mod the editor |
| 09:07.22 | liq3 | The way blizzard has done it is bad... |
| 09:07.31 | Sixen | "mod the editor" |
| 09:07.34 | Sixen | Whatcha mean? |
| 09:07.44 | Sixen | I wish we could develop our own addons for GE. |
| 09:07.44 | Iggyhopper | i did that for war3 for extended value ranges |
| 09:07.52 | Sixen | How? |
| 09:07.53 | liq3 | Iggyhopper: what? |
| 09:07.57 | Iggyhopper | i.e. IIRC more then 100 levels for abilities |
| 09:08.14 | Iggyhopper | um simple |
| 09:08.16 | liq3 | Iggyhopper; the problem is they have an "upgrade" entry in the data section for EVERY upgrade. |
| 09:08.22 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 09:08.24 | Iggyhopper | ok so |
| 09:08.26 | liq3 | There is no way in hell i'm adding 252 more of those. |
| 09:08.30 | Iggyhopper | I used mpq draft, for one |
| 09:08.50 | Iggyhopper | for two, i modded UnitMetaData.slk in the mpq's |
| 09:08.57 | Iggyhopper | iirc |
| 09:09.11 | Kylegar | god damn |
| 09:09.12 | Iggyhopper | i also enabled extra types |
| 09:09.17 | Kylegar | there is so many possibilites with heroes |
| 09:09.20 | Sixen | Orly? |
| 09:09.21 | Iggyhopper | by editing native trigger data |
| 09:09.23 | Sixen | .slk? |
| 09:09.26 | Iggyhopper | yes |
| 09:09.32 | Sixen | Wuzzat? |
| 09:09.42 | Iggyhopper | its basically a excel sheet |
| 09:09.52 | peterpants | liq3 i agree it's kinda of ridiculous |
| 09:10.07 | liq3 | peterpants: Yeh I can't see any way to do this... |
| 09:10.15 | liq3 | I'm thinking of making a script to add 252 upgrades. |
| 09:10.20 | Iggyhopper | I'll look at some data guys iggeh to resque |
| 09:10.21 | liq3 | with pythno. |
| 09:10.38 | liq3 | Iggyhopper: upgrades are invidual data entries... |
| 09:10.48 | liq3 | Adding 252 more manually would be ridiculous. |
| 09:10.51 | Sixen | Iggy, where did you find the Editor data files? |
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| 09:13.39 | liq3 | There's a max thingy, maybe that'll let us do it easily. |
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| 09:13.49 | Iggyhopper | um hmm |
| 09:13.55 | Iggyhopper | in omg you mean in war3? |
| 09:13.57 | MavercK | anyone know how to remove a requirement for a building |
| 09:14.01 | Grum | ok fuck that editing regions ins a giant pain in the ass :) |
| 09:14.04 | Iggyhopper | lol let me dig for those too one sec |
| 09:14.30 | ShadowTiger | um |
| 09:14.35 | Sixen | Well Iggy, I meant SC2. But it's probably the same. |
| 09:14.39 | ShadowTiger | there is an easy way to make 255 upgrades |
| 09:14.43 | ShadowTiger | i think |
| 09:14.48 | liq3 | Anyone know how to set the cost of upgrades? |
| 09:15.11 | warturtle | how do you add an event for when a behavior/effect happens? |
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| 09:15.30 | ShadowTiger | what are you trying to do warturtle? |
| 09:15.52 | Inschato | Unit Uses Ability? |
| 09:16.24 | Iggyhopper | war3: war3.mpq/Units/UnitMetaData.slk |
| 09:16.27 | Iggyhopper | sc2: |
| 09:16.30 | Iggyhopper | working on it |
| 09:16.41 | Sixen | Ah, you had to edit the War3 MPQ's? |
| 09:16.42 | shift-kalicompto | how do you get the inventory interface (ex. the ghost video with different guns) |
| 09:16.42 | Grum | has anyone worked with creation a complexly shaped region? |
| 09:16.49 | Iggyhopper | yes |
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| 09:16.57 | Iggyhopper | and i loaded the mod to the editor, not the game |
| 09:16.58 | monoframe | Iggypopper, I give up D: |
| 09:17.03 | Iggyhopper | noooooo |
| 09:17.10 | ShadowTiger | hey GardenOfAuir |
| 09:17.10 | monoframe | Trigger Editor is SO messed |
| 09:17.13 | Sixen | Shift, I think someone posted an inventory tutorial on Mapster forums. |
| 09:17.13 | monoframe | up |
| 09:17.14 | Iggyhopper | how in the fuck am i suppoed to move units? |
| 09:17.19 | GardenOfAiur | hey shadow |
| 09:17.26 | ShadowTiger | were you at blizzard? |
| 09:17.27 | monoframe | I can't find proper command |
| 09:17.28 | monoframe | D: |
| 09:17.31 | shift-kalicompto | i cant access the mapster forums |
| 09:17.33 | GardenOfAiur | i wish :( lol |
| 09:17.37 | ShadowTiger | oh |
| 09:17.39 | Sixen | Why not, Shift? |
| 09:17.40 | shift-kalicompto | theres only the video |
| 09:17.46 | Sixen | I was at Blizzard, Shadow, :). |
| 09:17.51 | ShadowTiger | cool me too |
| 09:17.56 | Sixen | You were? On Monday? |
| 09:17.59 | ShadowTiger | ya |
| 09:18.08 | Sixen | Oh. I was the dude with the spikey hair and Curse T-shirt. |
| 09:18.13 | Sixen | Hanging out with Kenny the whole time. |
| 09:18.24 | ShadowTiger | ummm |
| 09:18.27 | shift-kalicompto | this link http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/tutorials/347-xml-inventory-items-powerups-and-more-part-1/ |
| 09:18.29 | ANdyBear22 | I seriously cannot add custom buildings to an SCVs build menu. So many problems. |
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| 09:18.32 | shift-kalicompto | returns a 404 |
| 09:18.40 | ShadowTiger | i dont really remember anybody hehe |
| 09:18.44 | Sixen | shift: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/347-xml-inventory-items-powerups-and-more-part-1/ |
| 09:18.48 | Sixen | Moved the forums, =| |
| 09:18.50 | ShadowTiger | i realized i should have met more people while i was there |
| 09:19.01 | Sixen | Lol, Shadow. What site were you representing? |
| 09:19.06 | ShadowTiger | sc2blog.com |
| 09:19.10 | Iggyhopper | wooooooow |
| 09:19.12 | Sixen | Ah |
| 09:19.18 | Iggyhopper | you guys should totally chekc this ot |
| 09:19.19 | ShadowTiger | you? |
| 09:19.19 | Iggyhopper | out |
| 09:19.22 | Iggyhopper | hold on |
| 09:19.23 | shift-kalicompto | ahh now it works |
| 09:19.24 | Sixen | Mapster and sc2pod.com |
| 09:19.26 | shift-kalicompto | tyvm guys |
| 09:19.29 | ShadowTiger | oh cool |
| 09:19.30 | Sixen | You're welcome, shift. |
| 09:19.55 | shift-kalicompto | might want to update the main page with the right forum links :) |
| 09:20.01 | Sixen | Doh1 |
| 09:20.05 | Iggyhopper | http://pastebin.org/172822 |
| 09:20.06 | Sixen | Thanks for the heads up, on it now. |
| 09:20.14 | Iggyhopper | it lists every single unit |
| 09:20.30 | Iggyhopper | import data |
| 09:20.49 | Sixen | orly |
| 09:21.06 | Sixen | uh |
| 09:21.10 | Sixen | There's War3 data? |
| 09:21.20 | shift-kalicompto | is it best to use the XML editor or can i the real editor handle all the same things |
| 09:21.21 | Sixen | oh. That's war3. |
| 09:21.29 | Sixen | Shift, eitherworks. |
| 09:21.33 | Sixen | GE has a cute little GUI to do it. |
| 09:21.48 | Sixen | But whatever's easier for you. Our editor works pretty good too, in regards to XML editing. |
| 09:21.49 | Hati | shift you switch between Raw data in data editor you can use it |
| 09:21.57 | Hati | but just you can't stick with raw data atm |
| 09:22.35 | shift-kalicompto | ok i think i'll download your version and check it out. might work better for me |
| 09:23.02 | zifoon_ | warturtle did u get it working? |
| 09:23.07 | warturtle | no |
| 09:23.12 | zifoon_ | =_= |
| 09:23.17 | zifoon_ | wat's the hold up? |
| 09:23.40 | Grum | k for people editing regions, you can create sub-regions by doubleclicking the active region (leftside) and then adding shapes; you can then resize and move the shapes by dragging and ctrl-dragging (near an edge) |
| 09:23.57 | Inschato | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/3-whackaling-v0-0-3/ <-- points at that for example of ^ |
| 09:24.09 | warturtle | I don't even know how to call a trigger from the PDD |
| 09:24.15 | warturtle | still looking through the data :( |
| 09:25.18 | Iggyhopper | stage.battle.net |
| 09:25.23 | Iggyhopper | o0o0o0o |
| 09:25.24 | Grum | and more on regions; you can rightclick a region and do 'view region' to get a nice topdown view |
| 09:25.31 | Inschato | I can't figure out how to choose a unit in a trigger that is in a specific region AND of a specific team |
| 09:26.10 | Skizot | how the HELL do i do arrays now?? |
| 09:26.30 | Hati | { } |
| 09:26.34 | Hati | | | | |
| 09:26.54 | Skizot | in sc2 |
| 09:26.58 | Grum | Inschato: example of what? :) |
| 09:27.09 | Inschato | It doesn't matter, I'm just going to work around it |
| 09:27.12 | zifoon_ | warturtle u know projectiles are just units |
| 09:27.23 | zifoon_ | u can use trigger to check unit is attack/damaged |
| 09:27.33 | zifoon_ | attacked* |
| 09:28.13 | Dinoo | omg update |
| 09:28.14 | Dinoo | finally |
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| 09:29.02 | shift-kalicompto | is milky way edit the right editor? |
| 09:29.18 | HBHades | yes...sweet carmel goodness |
| 09:29.33 | HBHades | caramel* |
| 09:29.52 | Grum | can i check if a unit is in a region if nothing happens to the unit? |
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| 09:31.35 | monoframe | Grum, use IF THEN ELSE |
| 09:31.45 | Iggyhopper | they do have ice |
| 09:31.46 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_Desert=Desert |
| 09:31.46 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_Generic=Generic |
| 09:31.46 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_Ice=Ice |
| 09:31.46 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_InteriorCave=Interior - Cave |
| 09:31.46 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_InteriorInstallation=Interior - Installation |
| 09:31.46 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_Jungle=Jungle |
| 09:31.47 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_Lunar=Lunar |
| 09:31.47 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_SpacePlatform=Space Platform |
| 09:31.48 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_Urban=Urban |
| 09:31.48 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_Volcanic=Volcanic |
| 09:31.49 | Skizot | we need a simple "kills" leaderboard.. i can do it for SINGLE player. |
| 09:31.49 | Grum | monoframe? :) |
| 09:31.49 | Iggyhopper | EDSTR_CATEGORY_Climate_Wasteland=Wasteland |
| 09:32.15 | Inschato | Skizot http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/3-whackaling-v0-0-3/ lol.. it's pretty hacky though :p |
| 09:33.40 | Skizot | multiplayer friendly? |
| 09:33.48 | zifoon_ | I should start on my AoS map soon |
| 09:33.50 | Inschato | With a bit of work, yeah.. :/ |
| 09:33.59 | Skizot | that's the issue |
| 09:34.07 | Skizot | i can make and POPLUATE a leaderboard. |
| 09:34.12 | shift-kalicompto | is milky way editor the right one? |
| 09:34.20 | Skizot | but i can't get it to freakin save that grouping in an array |
| 09:34.31 | Skizot | or something similar. |
| 09:34.39 | Iggyhopper | looks like the accepted values are hardcoded :( |
| 09:35.10 | Grum | monoframe: it seems i can do a 'is unit in region' but i guess i have to iterate over all units orso? o.O |
| 09:35.15 | Grum | periodically ? O.o |
| 09:35.37 | monoframe | What do you mean by "iterate over all units"? |
| 09:35.48 | Grum | i want when my lava is rising to hurt units which are in it |
| 09:36.05 | monoframe | So what's the problem ? P: |
| 09:36.06 | Grum | in order to do so i need to know which units are .. well ideally on a certain height at a certain moment |
| 09:36.23 | monoframe | Turn on/turn off the trigger |
| 09:36.23 | Grum | well the problem is first of all, there is no way to tell if units are in 'water' |
| 09:36.49 | monoframe | That's why you use regions to specify the locations which will deal them damage |
| 09:37.03 | Grum | yes so how do you get a 'region to deal damage' ? |
| 09:37.05 | ANdyBear22 | what is the gamage point field? |
| 09:37.10 | ANdyBear22 | damage* |
| 09:37.13 | monoframe | Good question... |
| 09:37.21 | monoframe | I just don't know...it's SO complicated D: |
| 09:37.31 | ANdyBear22 | photon cannon has a value of .167 |
| 09:37.33 | ANdyBear22 | o.0 |
| 09:37.35 | monoframe | I would even say this editor is stripped off much |
| 09:37.37 | monoframe | D: |
| 09:37.38 | ShadowTiger | i think damage point is the time in miliseconds until the damage is done |
| 09:37.40 | monoframe | DAMN YOU BLIZZARD! |
| 09:37.43 | Grum | monoframe: euuh ? |
| 09:37.51 | ShadowTiger | which explains why ghost is instant |
| 09:38.02 | monoframe | Looking at triggersets, it seems like there are some things missing D: |
| 09:38.05 | ANdyBear22 | so is that projectile travel time? |
| 09:38.54 | Grum | monoframe: there seems to be no easy way of hurting units |
| 09:39.02 | monoframe | Grum, use IF THEN ELSE |
| 09:39.21 | Grum | dude .. that is just fucking pointless |
| 09:39.25 | monoframe | say with IF unit is in region AND is on ground THEN kill eet ELSE do nothing |
| 09:39.25 | Grum | IF THEN ELSE WHAT!? |
| 09:39.31 | Grum | it doesnt have to die |
| 09:39.33 | Grum | just take damage |
| 09:39.42 | monoframe | I don't know how to do that :| |
| 09:39.45 | Grum | and how to fucking check if a unit is in the region |
| 09:40.02 | monoframe | I tried scrolling to inbuilt triggersets...nothing |
| 09:40.08 | Grum | yes i know there is a 'unit in region' BUT it needs to be triggered |
| 09:40.15 | Grum | and nothing is actually triggering it |
| 09:40.21 | Grum | (for that unit) |
| 09:40.31 | Grum | because .. why would it |
| 09:40.48 | qwebirc74934 | when i try view>camera>use free camera, i can't even zoom, anyone knows why? |
| 09:41.50 | Hati | because free camera is like FPS view |
| 09:42.37 | Mapoh | guys how to set a relation between an icon and ability? |
| 09:42.58 | peterpants | why does a creep tumor not look like it's cloaked |
| 09:43.19 | qwebirc74934 | Hati: thanks, can you tell me how i can see the face of the marine, the default view is from top down |
| 09:43.46 | Hati | peter - because you still "have to" select them |
| 09:43.53 | Hati | and it would suck if they were kinda invisible |
| 09:44.04 | peterpants | well dark templars look invisible |
| 09:44.13 | peterpants | why cant my creep tumor have that effect |
| 09:44.16 | Hati | yea but they can be grouped |
| 09:44.23 | peterpants | o.O |
| 09:44.32 | Hati | ah |
| 09:44.34 | Hati | ehm |
| 09:44.35 | ShadowTiger | its because creep tumors are burrowed not "cloaked" |
| 09:44.38 | Hati | depends on which tumor |
| 09:44.42 | ShadowTiger | in terms of lore |
| 09:44.52 | peterpants | the finished tumor i cant for the life of me get to look cloaked |
| 09:44.53 | Hati | no shadow - with this bubbles on it (able to create new one) it is upside |
| 09:45.01 | ShadowTiger | but you can add the cloak effect to any unit i bet |
| 09:45.02 | Hati | yes because it's burrowed |
| 09:45.25 | peterpants | hm |
| 09:45.39 | peterpants | so the burrow ? makes it not cloaked? |
| 09:45.44 | peterpants | but still coaked.. |
| 09:46.07 | Skizot | okay tumors are UNBURROWED when yuo have NOT used the spread creep ability |
| 09:46.19 | Skizot | when they spawn a new tumor they BURROW |
| 09:46.41 | peterpants | right |
| 09:46.42 | liq3 | actually |
| 09:46.48 | liq3 | they're only unburrowed when they're building. |
| 09:47.11 | monoframe | How to set "DO NOTHING" in trigger editor D: |
| 09:47.11 | monoframe | D: |
| 09:47.13 | peterpants | either way they never have the cloaky effect |
| 09:47.17 | peterpants | that's all i want |
| 09:47.19 | Hati | no they have upside collision with bubbles on it |
| 09:47.20 | Hati | liq3 |
| 09:47.21 | zifoon_ | is uberlisk legends good? |
| 09:47.23 | lolwut_ | wow, how do i order a unit to move with triggers? |
| 09:47.50 | Hati | issue order |
| 09:48.06 | Hati | same as with effects :> |
| 09:48.11 | lolwut_ | ah |
| 09:48.19 | lolwut_ | order targeting point |
| 09:48.34 | Hati | relative point |
| 09:48.38 | Hati | is better |
| 09:49.03 | lolwut_ | difference? |
| 09:49.20 | Dinoo | its relative |
| 09:49.20 | Dinoo | ^^' |
| 09:49.24 | lolwut_ | :O |
| 09:49.30 | lolwut_ | i think i understand |
| 09:49.32 | Iggyhopper | lolwut_ order targeting point? |
| 09:49.39 | Dinoo | absolute point, you can order it to move to map coordinate |
| 09:49.50 | Dinoo | relative, you can order ti to move X distance in direction Y |
| 09:50.01 | lolwut_ | don't think so |
| 09:50.06 | Iggyhopper | I don't think I have those. |
| 09:50.07 | lolwut_ | i think its more if you have a group of units |
| 09:50.08 | Iggyhopper | qtf |
| 09:50.21 | zifoon_ | man zergling zap is awesome |
| 09:50.23 | lolwut_ | and you say relative, they all won't try and reach the exact point |
| 09:50.25 | zifoon_ | so so awesome |
| 09:50.42 | Iggyhopper | Hati I do a search for "Order" and i get order unit and order unit group. |
| 09:50.52 | zifoon_ | how could something so simple be so good for reducing stress? |
| 09:50.57 | Hati | yea so ? |
| 09:51.16 | Iggyhopper | how do i move unit? |
| 09:51.20 | warturtle | ok finally got more hang of data.. |
| 09:51.20 | Hati | Order Unit |
| 09:51.21 | Iggyhopper | how do i order unit to move? |
| 09:51.25 | Iggyhopper | and then wat? |
| 09:51.29 | Hati | Move |
| 09:51.32 | Iggyhopper | thats it? |
| 09:51.35 | Iggyhopper | to where? |
| 09:51.37 | Hati | to point |
| 09:51.40 | Iggyhopper | mm |
| 09:51.41 | warturtle | and made a dummy PDD that doesnt do damage, but has it's energy changed and a really short range.. |
| 09:51.42 | Iggyhopper | let me se |
| 09:52.05 | Iggyhopper | AHA |
| 09:52.17 | Iggyhopper | I HAD TO CLICK ON THAT LITTLE PARENTHESE |
| 09:52.30 | Iggyhopper | FGT BLIZZARD |
| 09:52.37 | Iggyhopper | should make those more visible |
| 09:52.56 | lolwut_ | yeah, i got stuck on the same iggy |
| 09:53.27 | Iggyhopper | should probabyl make parenthese options/selections a different color then blue |
| 09:53.47 | Iggyhopper | maybe pink, purple, dark green, or cyan |
| 09:56.41 | Hati | kojweras |
| 09:56.57 | Hati | stupid bnet forum |
| 09:57.47 | ANdyBear22 | Where do you change the discription of a building? (Example, what it says when you select and SCV, and say Build and hover over command center) |
| 09:58.11 | peterpants | command center unit has description |
| 09:58.28 | HBHades | is it possible to instantiate anything in the editor? |
| 09:58.38 | HBHades | i cant seem to find anything |
| 09:59.08 | shift-kalicompto | where can i find the maps like kulas ravine, ladder maps |
| 09:59.36 | Hati|NotHere | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401904845&sid=5011 can someone (EU) answer him: " Du kannst das spiel einfach an lassen beim testen und die neuen Einstellungen neu laden mit ctrl+f9 " ? |
| 10:00.22 | HBHades | i would...but for some reason it wont let me post |
| 10:00.45 | monoframe | shift: ...\My Documents\StarCraft II Beta\Maps\ |
| 10:03.31 | Inschato | scores 851 in his own game |
| 10:03.58 | Slam_ | Du kannst das spiel einfach an lassen beim testen und die neuen Einstellungen neu laden mit ctrl+f9 " => done => what does that mean :D |
| 10:04.15 | HBHades | you just called him retarded... |
| 10:04.17 | HBHades | ouch |
| 10:04.26 | HBHades | : |
| 10:04.29 | HBHades | :P |
| 10:04.35 | Slam_ | hum I'll delete so :( |
| 10:05.00 | Slam_ | was hoping to help |
| 10:05.04 | Hati | this mean |
| 10:05.33 | Hati | you can simply use ctrl+f9 to use the newest changes and don't have to exit sc2 all the time |
| 10:06.02 | Slam_ | k |
| 10:07.15 | Hati | but i don't understand why they localize the GE ... |
| 10:07.30 | HBHades | GE? |
| 10:07.42 | Inschato | Galaxy Editor |
| 10:08.02 | Grum | its kinda annoying you ahve enGB and enUS maps now :( |
| 10:08.30 | Hati | +deDE, esMX etc. |
| 10:08.41 | Grum | those should just be purged right away |
| 10:08.53 | HBHades | they're not cross compatible? |
| 10:08.58 | Hati | they are |
| 10:09.04 | Hati | as localization is in sc2map |
| 10:09.07 | Hati | but ... |
| 10:09.22 | Grum | ARGH why is it so hard to find out which units are in a certain region! |
| 10:09.37 | HBHades | grum im in the same boat |
| 10:09.46 | ANdyBear22 | How come the discription for my building will not change? |
| 10:09.50 | Skizot | how is that hard? |
| 10:09.50 | HBHades | let me know if you come up with something |
| 10:09.59 | peterpants | pick each unit in unit group matching any units in "region" etc. |
| 10:10.06 | Skizot | yeah |
| 10:10.22 | Grum | yeah .. units are not in any group |
| 10:10.32 | Grum | or are they by default? |
| 10:10.44 | Skizot | if they are in the region... they are in the group :P |
| 10:10.56 | Grum | explain? |
| 10:11.09 | Grum | arent units groups the things you make with ctrl-num? |
| 10:11.21 | Skizot | when you do a pick each unit in unit group, there's ALOT of ways to group them.. |
| 10:11.23 | Skizot | uit type |
| 10:11.25 | Skizot | region |
| 10:11.29 | Skizot | etdc |
| 10:11.38 | Grum | oh :) |
| 10:11.44 | Grum | lets see if i can set that up |
| 10:11.48 | BlueGhostie | can we set the map to not show tips? or is that only in personal settings? |
| 10:11.59 | BlueGhostie | on the loading screen |
| 10:12.22 | Skizot | set the help to a space? |
| 10:12.59 | lolwut_ | hm |
| 10:13.08 | lolwut_ | trying to make a custom dialog |
| 10:13.22 | lolwut_ | but my button variable doesn't show up when i try to create an event |
| 10:13.26 | lolwut_ | from pressing a button |
| 10:13.49 | peterpants | they have a convert string to text function o.O |
| 10:14.00 | Grum | Skizot: whoha there are a lot of ways to group them indeed, is there any 'easy' way to say: any unit from player1'? O.o |
| 10:14.04 | Grum | or ... any unit >< |
| 10:14.07 | BlueGhostie | hey, that help thing reall helped lol thanks! |
| 10:14.08 | Grum | in a region :D |
| 10:14.16 | monoframe | Grum, there is such thing |
| 10:14.24 | monoframe | as Any Unit |
| 10:14.45 | monoframe | I mean..there is Any Unit selection |
| 10:14.55 | monoframe | Check conditions |
| 10:15.48 | Grum | well you have multiple different units groups that consider regions; 'Units in Region Matching Condition', 'Units in Region with Alliance to Player', 'Units in Group within Region' .. the last one looks hopeful .. |
| 10:15.49 | Skizot | yeah player group(player(1)) i think |
| 10:16.05 | Grum | For Each Unit In Unit Group |
| 10:16.05 | Skizot | yeah the last one is what you want |
| 10:16.05 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.05 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.05 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.05 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.06 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.11 | Grum | ai that is quite some lines |
| 10:16.23 | Grum | but erm ... what to put in the group? O.o |
| 10:16.56 | Skizot | Unit Group: Units In Unit Group Within Region |
| 10:17.04 | Skizot | the bold ones should be clickable |
| 10:17.13 | Grum | well its longer |
| 10:17.18 | Grum | For each unit For Each Unit In Unit Group |
| 10:17.18 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.18 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.18 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.18 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.18 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.20 | Grum | AAKSDGKASD |
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| 10:17.22 | Grum | fuck that |
| 10:17.23 | Grum | sorry =) |
| 10:17.25 | Sixen | Hey Laz. |
| 10:18.03 | lolwut_ | does anyone remember zone control from sc1? |
| 10:18.13 | monoframe | I played a remake of it in WC3 lol |
| 10:18.13 | Grum | For each unit Unit in (Units in Unit Group within (Playable map area), with at most Any Amount) do (Actions) |
| 10:18.18 | monoframe | Still have the map |
| 10:18.24 | lolwut_ | never played it wc3 |
| 10:18.28 | lolwut_ | im working it now |
| 10:18.30 | lolwut_ | for sc2 |
| 10:18.44 | lolwut_ | mass-attack with dialog options works pro |
| 10:18.44 | Grum | Skizot: that is what it says now, but it has the Unit and Unit Group still red |
| 10:18.45 | lolwut_ | :D |
| 10:18.51 | Grum | i know what to do to fix the first but the second .. :( |
| 10:18.51 | Skizot | set playable map area to your region |
| 10:18.53 | monoframe | I could forward the file to you...don't know if it'll launch under 1.25 or so S: |
| 10:18.55 | Lazbro | hi :) |
| 10:19.10 | Skizot | and the unit has to be set to a specific unit or ANY unit |
| 10:19.21 | Lazbro | wondering if anyone knew how to link a beam or missile unit with a weapon? :p |
| 10:19.22 | Grum | Skizot: that one is done as well, for the Unit i just made a variable to store it in |
| 10:19.41 | Grum | so now just the 'Unit Group' left :/ |
| 10:19.44 | ANdyBear22 | How do you know when to duplicate and when to link when copying a unit to make your own? |
| 10:19.45 | Skizot | then unit group. |
| 10:20.03 | liq3 | sigh i'mm gonna have to use python and edit the XMLs. Bah. |
| 10:20.22 | Grum | Skizot: i dont see how i can get that to list all units for the player |
| 10:20.28 | shift-kalicompto | im still having trouble getting MilkyWayEdit to work, also the sc2 maps are called SC2Map not S2MA |
| 10:20.55 | Skizot | grum.. |
| 10:21.20 | Grum | Skizot: when i click it, it gives all kinds of nice options like 'Idle units for player' etc :D |
| 10:22.45 | Skizot | players in playergroup(player(1)) is what you need. |
| 10:23.03 | Skizot | it's more about what you need |
| 10:23.20 | Grum | i bet this is trivial if you see the acutal generated code :/ |
| 10:23.30 | Grum | this stupid clicking system makes it so much harder to see whta is going on:) |
| 10:23.33 | Skizot | ctrl+f11 |
| 10:24.15 | Hati | grum |
| 10:24.19 | Hati | press ctrl+d |
| 10:24.25 | Hati | or shift+d (can't remmeber) |
| 10:24.30 | Hati | btu it swaps to code view |
| 10:24.32 | Skizot | for? |
| 10:24.37 | Hati | or a semi code view |
| 10:24.37 | Skizot | that's ctrl+f11 |
| 10:24.46 | Grum | no it does |
| 10:24.47 | Hati | no ctrl+f11 is Source code |
| 10:24.49 | Grum | semi indeed |
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| 10:25.12 | Grum | Skizot: where should the players in playergroup(player(1)) go? :/ |
| 10:25.22 | HBHades | ctrl+f11 you guys are lifesavers |
| 10:25.34 | Hati | ctrl+f11 can't edit :/ |
| 10:25.41 | Hati | or you can edit but not save |
| 10:25.45 | Skizot | one sec |
| 10:25.54 | HBHades | :( |
| 10:26.03 | Hati | you have to use Custom script as action to do it |
| 10:26.23 | Grum | it looks like: ForEachUnitInGroup(unitInRegion, (UnitGroupFilterRegion((UnitGroupFilterPlayer((UnitGroupFilterPlayer(group, 1, 0)), 1, 0)), TopLevelLava, 0))) |
| 10:26.27 | Grum | but thats not correct :) |
| 10:27.18 | Grum | and it still references 'group' which i guess hsould be a variable .. but erm que? =D |
| 10:27.19 | Iggyhopper | omg camera bounds are not helping me |
| 10:27.24 | ANdyBear22 | How do I make the missle turret also hit ground? |
| 10:27.28 | Iggyhopper | okay well i got moving accomplished |
| 10:27.30 | Iggyhopper | bye bye |
| 10:27.41 | Hati | Andy - in weapondata |
| 10:27.55 | Hati | there should be a Validator with Air;Rest |
| 10:28.01 | Hati | or something like that |
| 10:28.06 | Hati | just remove the Air |
| 10:28.13 | Hati | this will allow air+ground |
| 10:29.02 | ANdyBear22 | I see |
| 10:29.05 | ANdyBear22 | Air is required |
| 10:29.16 | ANdyBear22 | So I set it to allowed, that should work, I hope! |
| 10:29.38 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:29.44 | Lazbro | I tried the 'used by' option and I still can't see how the archon attack beam actor is linked to or from the archon or its weapon in any way :( |
| 10:29.46 | Skizot | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.06 | Skizot | something like taht i guess |
| 10:30.17 | Grum | ah taht is the Units in Region with Alliance to Player |
| 10:31.00 | peterpants | is there a way to add events to a trigger through actions |
| 10:31.00 | Hati | any enGB user here? |
| 10:31.04 | peterpants | this was do-able in wc3 |
| 10:31.08 | Grum | Hati <-- |
| 10:31.18 | Grum | Skizot: hmm how did you get 'player 1' in there? |
| 10:31.28 | Grum | i just have 'Any Player' and cant select any other |
| 10:33.16 | Grum | k i hope this works; |
| 10:33.16 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.17 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.17 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.17 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:34.46 | monoframe | So you couldn't find the damage dealt action? |
| 10:34.58 | Fisker | Grum is so enGB he shits the queen |
| 10:35.30 | Grum | monoframe: that ist he next challenge :) |
| 10:35.36 | monoframe | P: |
| 10:35.38 | Grum | first seeing this region shit work |
| 10:35.49 | monoframe | Go on |
| 10:35.59 | zifoon_ | grum do get dmg deal action u gotta use effect function |
| 10:37.20 | Grum | LOL |
| 10:37.22 | Grum | it killed it already |
| 10:37.25 | Grum | bit too soon ;) |
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| 10:38.26 | Fisker | imma make a trigger Grum |
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| 10:39.26 | JamesObscura | The "Order all units in (Unit group)" command seems to only order one of them to do something. |
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| 10:39.33 | JamesObscura | Anyone else having this problem? |
| 10:40.31 | monoframe | What units do you have specified in the Unit Group? |
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| 10:40.58 | JamesObscura | Theoretically 5 hydras I just spawened with the create units trigger. |
| 10:41.15 | JamesObscura | Now that a think about it, the add last create unit trigger might be the problem... |
| 10:41.36 | JamesObscura | Ok new question: How do I add a group of created units to a unit group? |
| 10:42.01 | Inschato | Various methods |
| 10:42.11 | Inschato | Look under the unit groups catagory |
| 10:42.17 | monoframe | Event OnUnitCreation Condition UnitIsZerg Action AddUniToUnitGroup |
| 10:42.21 | monoframe | something along the lines of that |
| 10:42.50 | monoframe | And specify that UnitGroup is a variable |
| 10:42.59 | monoframe | You can then change array count |
| 10:43.08 | monoframe | to lets say 5, so it won't exceed more than 5 units |
| 10:43.16 | monoframe | If I'm not mistaken |
| 10:43.19 | JamesObscura | Mmm... |
| 10:44.17 | JamesObscura | Ok, this is going to sound really noobish, but how do I get different triggers to interact? Can I have global variables somewhere or what? |
| 10:44.31 | Inschato | Yes |
| 10:44.41 | Inschato | Ctrl+B while not inside of a trigger |
| 10:44.52 | Inschato | Or the variable button on the far top right |
| 10:44.59 | JamesObscura | Oh wow. |
| 10:45.04 | JamesObscura | That makes things so much easier. |
| 10:45.08 | Inschato | They're really important |
| 10:45.10 | JamesObscura | YEah |
| 10:45.11 | JamesObscura | No kidding |
| 10:45.19 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/fastest-map-bones-n-gates-4/. Fastest Map Bones 'n Gates (4). PatchOne (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 10:45.25 | Inschato | My map has more variables than actual triggers |
| 10:45.32 | JamesObscura | Ok, thank you so much, I have a lot of work to do now. |
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| 10:45.42 | Grum | for some reason it doesnt kill my units anymore ;( |
| 10:45.50 | monoframe | Well, practically you could stuff whole map into one trigger |
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| 10:46.29 | Dinoo | re, D/C >_< |
| 10:46.39 | monoframe | I remember playing an updated map, which's triggers where compressed from about 220 to just 4 |
| 10:46.47 | Dinoo | Where can I find a event "any unit of type X dies" ? |
| 10:47.46 | Inschato | Unit - any unit dies |
| 10:47.51 | Inschato | You can figure out the type of unit after |
| 10:47.58 | Dinoo | oh, with a condition, k |
| 10:48.10 | Grum | Dinoo: 'event: Unit Dies' |
| 10:48.25 | Inschato | Yeah, Unit type of (Triggering unit) == "Desired unit type" |
| 10:48.46 | peterpants | how do you give a unit experience |
| 10:48.46 | ShiftKalicompton | can someone give me a link to the non-blizzard editor? i found it before but i simply cant get back to that page |
| 10:48.52 | peterpants | via triggers |
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| 10:49.25 | Grum | ShiftKalicompton: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/milkywayedit/ ? |
| 10:50.29 | Sixen | where'd vjeux go? |
| 10:50.30 | Sixen | =| |
| 10:51.11 | DIProgan | so anyone made dota yet? ^^ |
| 10:51.15 | ShiftKalicompton | i stumbled across what i was looking for again, the tutorial map with commands |
| 10:51.15 | Fisker | i killed him Sixen |
| 10:51.17 | Fisker | and took his power |
| 10:51.23 | Grum | haha it works |
| 10:51.24 | Grum | nice =) |
| 10:52.16 | Sixen | lol |
| 10:52.23 | peterpants | what is the variable that holds a unit's experience |
| 10:52.25 | Sixen | Ah Shift, yeah. |
| 10:52.36 | Sixen | Vjeux and I spent a lot of time on that :D |
| 10:53.21 | ShiftKalicompton | hopefully i'll set it up right and i can take a look |
| 10:53.25 | NiNtoxicated | yo Sixen |
| 10:53.25 | peterpants | where can i find that native.galaxy list |
| 10:53.38 | Sixen | Sup nin |
| 10:53.48 | DIProgan | will making 3v3+ maps enable that number of ppl? |
| 10:53.59 | NiNtoxicated | not much man |
| 10:53.59 | Sixen | Shift, you can rename it to .sc2map and open it up in GE, I believe. |
| 10:54.11 | Sixen | I've been linking to your m3 importer a lot lately. Lovin' it, <3. |
| 10:54.32 | NiNtoxicated | haha, I should update it a bit, there's some functionality I want to add |
| 10:54.33 | Dinoo | hmmm |
| 10:54.44 | NiNtoxicated | I wanted to mention |
| 10:54.47 | Sixen | That'd be cool. It's the ONLY importer there is so far :P |
| 10:54.55 | ShiftKalicompton | i downloaded the milky way one so i'll try that out first |
| 10:54.57 | peterpants | there's no way to increase a unit's XP through triggers |
| 10:55.02 | ShiftKalicompton | thanks thought sixen |
| 10:55.06 | Dinoo | Is there a trigger action to revive an unit (hero) so that it keeps it's experience in stuff, or do you have to store it yourself ? |
| 10:55.06 | NiNtoxicated | well, Witchsong's obj converter works too |
| 10:55.07 | Sixen | Shift: Yeah, MWE can open it easy, :) |
| 10:55.12 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6283406376e4e3534f2c0b88f0a23127.jpg |
| 10:55.14 | Fisker | who wins Sixen |
| 10:55.14 | Dinoo | and stuff* |
| 10:55.15 | NiNtoxicated | there's a new model format they're using |
| 10:55.16 | Sixen | Where's witch's obj converter? :O |
| 10:55.20 | Sixen | Someone was asking for one. |
| 10:55.20 | NiNtoxicated | MD34 now |
| 10:55.26 | NiNtoxicated | it's in the new patch files |
| 10:55.30 | Sixen | orly fisker? |
| 10:55.35 | NiNtoxicated | I'll have to update the importer to support it |
| 10:55.40 | Sixen | Could you nin? |
| 10:55.48 | ript1de | i asked this earlier as well and just saw it brought up again so asking now - will making a 3v3 map make 3v3 available as the agme time in the sc2 client? |
| 10:55.48 | Sixen | That way it's all in one place. |
| 10:56.04 | Sixen | And oh, where's witches obj converter? |
| 10:56.06 | NiNtoxicated | Witchsong's obj converter should be on mapster somewhere |
| 10:56.12 | Sixen | riptide, good questoin |
| 10:56.12 | NiNtoxicated | he put it up there if I remember |
| 10:56.13 | Fisker | doh Sixen |
| 10:56.14 | Sixen | OK, nin. |
| 10:56.22 | Fisker | i forgot to make the ultralisks another player |
| 10:56.28 | ript1de | thanks |
| 10:56.37 | Sixen | Worth a shot |
| 10:56.37 | ript1de | you guys have some solid stuff on your site, just checking it out |
| 10:56.37 | NiNtoxicated | it'll only work with the old model format though |
| 10:56.41 | Grum | NiNtoxicated: that explains why *ALL* models have been updated |
| 10:56.42 | Sixen | =) |
| 10:56.49 | NiNtoxicated | yeah Grum |
| 10:56.50 | Sixen | Nin, old formats were m3 and m3h, no? |
| 10:56.57 | Sixen | md34 was just introducted? |
| 10:57.01 | Grum | the extensions are the same |
| 10:57.03 | NiNtoxicated | you *can't* load the old model format in the starcraft II viewer |
| 10:57.05 | NiNtoxicated | it won't even load them |
| 10:57.11 | NiNtoxicated | it only takes MD34's |
| 10:57.12 | Sixen | Oh? |
| 10:57.21 | Sixen | In the previewr it shows the .m3's? |
| 10:57.30 | NiNtoxicated | Sixen: still uses the same extension, .m3 .m3h for the attachments |
| 10:57.34 | Grum | Sixen: the extention is tsill the same |
| 10:57.36 | NiNtoxicated | but the file format is slightly different |
| 10:57.40 | Sixen | Oh, interesting. |
| 10:57.51 | NiNtoxicated | nothing drastic, easy to update |
| 10:57.57 | NiNtoxicated | but you'll notice units like the zealot have dances now |
| 10:58.02 | NiNtoxicated | so they're updating the models |
| 10:58.54 | Sixen | Oh true. |
| 10:59.32 | NiNtoxicated | I get my beta key on wednesday next week, hopefully I can get the importer/exporter out before then |
| 10:59.32 | Sixen | Witch's obj converter isn't on mapster =/ |
| 10:59.40 | Sixen | You don't have a beta key?! |
| 10:59.42 | NiNtoxicated | because I'll probably be too busy playing to do more work >< |
| 11:00.02 | NiNtoxicated | no I get one on wednesday cause I pre-ordered the game |
| 11:00.21 | Inschato | Hey Sixen, you seem rather important around here, have you played my map yet? :P |
| 11:00.23 | Inschato | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/files/425/845/Whackazerg.SC2Map |
| 11:00.29 | Sixen | I run this place, ;). |
| 11:00.38 | Inschato | My last version for tonight |
| 11:00.45 | Sixen | Will check it out. |
| 11:01.01 | ANdyBear22 | What field shows you the range of the building your about to build? |
| 11:01.20 | ANdyBear22 | Its new to patch 9... |
| 11:02.15 | Inschato | In case anyone was here long enough to actually have played Whackaling already, new in this version: New weapon, nuke hotkey, new level! :D |
| 11:02.42 | Inschato | Oh and ghosts to get more nukes, I forgot to mention that in the changelog >:p |
| 11:02.55 | Grum | k how to damage a unit =) |
| 11:02.56 | Arthas- | question |
| 11:03.02 | Arthas- | water is only placeable on one layer? |
| 11:03.06 | Arthas- | one level* |
| 11:03.06 | Grum | no |
| 11:03.12 | Sixen | Inschato, that's awesome :D |
| 11:03.17 | Grum | you can edit the water to be on another level |
| 11:03.19 | Sixen | Mind if I stick it in the news? |
| 11:03.24 | Inschato | Sure thing |
| 11:03.28 | Arthas- | Grum how |
| 11:03.31 | Sixen | Alright, will go up in the next post. |
| 11:03.48 | Inschato | I uploaded it as "Public Domain" because I didn't plan on working on it past the first version lol, but I still don't care anyhow |
| 11:03.53 | Sixen | How do you use nukes? |
| 11:04.03 | Inschato | N key, or click the button in the top right |
| 11:04.08 | Sixen | Rofl pro. |
| 11:04.14 | Grum | Arthas-: terrain editor; water mode; click 'add water' (left button) and then you should be able to select the types below |
| 11:04.18 | Grum | and there is 'edit water' |
| 11:04.23 | Arthas- | ya just noticed |
| 11:04.28 | Arthas- | weird |
| 11:04.28 | Arthas- | :p |
| 11:04.59 | Grum | you can add states and to have the same water at another height you have to duplicate it in the data editor |
| 11:05.17 | Inschato | Feel free to \o/ when/if you get to level 6, that was a last minute addition ;P |
| 11:05.29 | Sixen | I lost. |
| 11:05.30 | Sixen | wtf |
| 11:05.30 | Sixen | :( |
| 11:05.31 | lolwut_ | how'd you create hotkeys for dialog? |
| 11:05.32 | Grum | downloading it now :P |
| 11:05.43 | Fisker | great idea Sixen |
| 11:05.47 | Grum | Inschato: enGB right? :( |
| 11:05.48 | Fisker | will give my photon cannon nukes |
| 11:05.51 | Sixen | :D |
| 11:05.56 | Inschato | Nope, enUS :/ |
| 11:05.57 | Sixen | I gave my Vespene Geysers Siege tank shots. |
| 11:06.00 | Fisker | gave it interceptors |
| 11:06.07 | Fisker | but kind of boring |
| 11:06.08 | Arthas- | and the nukes will spawn cockroaches |
| 11:06.12 | Arthas- | nom nom nom nom |
| 11:06.12 | ANdyBear22 | what field allows you to show the attack range of a turret? |
| 11:07.12 | Grum | Inschato: try and find out how to duplicate the locale entries |
| 11:07.17 | Sixen | Inschato, how'd you do the loading screen? Is that just an image? Or is it text? |
| 11:07.19 | Grum | because right now anyone enGB cannot see any text in your map |
| 11:07.22 | Inschato | Text |
| 11:07.27 | Inschato | It supports images too though |
| 11:07.35 | Grum | unless they modify your mapfile |
| 11:07.37 | Inschato | Map --> Map Loading Screen |
| 11:07.44 | inSync | Sixen: Map Loading Screen in Map. |
| 11:07.46 | Inschato | Change Type to Custom |
| 11:07.51 | Sixen | Yeah, didn't know you could do text too though :) |
| 11:08.04 | inSync | You can do anything! :D no limitations. |
| 11:08.05 | Sixen | Been busy trying to answer basic questions on the forums and such~ |
| 11:08.08 | Sixen | Well |
| 11:08.11 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU |
| 11:08.12 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 11:08.13 | Sixen | No UI Customization really :( |
| 11:08.14 | Arthas- | its that time |
| 11:08.16 | Arthas- | BOAT |
| 11:08.38 | Sixen | Awww shit! |
| 11:08.46 | Sixen | I'm on a Boat;) |
| 11:08.49 | Inschato | Man, I totally forgot to take out the resource panel ages ago.. oh well, not about to upload another build now |
| 11:08.52 | Arthas- | :DDDD |
| 11:08.56 | Arthas- | Now who should I take |
| 11:09.02 | Sixen | Keith.... and...T-Pain. |
| 11:09.05 | ShadowTiger | take me take me! |
| 11:09.06 | Sixen | lol |
| 11:09.08 | Arthas- | :D |
| 11:09.16 | Sixen | Inschato, hehe, still looks good though. |
| 11:09.20 | Arthas- | Although I love throw it on the ground too |
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| 11:10.22 | Inschato | I should point out my username on the website is Anydrez, I was too lazy to use a different email when I found out it uses my curse accout :P |
| 11:10.44 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 11:10.45 | Inschato | used to play WoW.... ;P |
| 11:10.46 | Sixen | Doh. ccknight might be able to change that. |
| 11:10.49 | Arthas- | do we have the ability to make water units |
| 11:10.50 | Arthas- | aka boats |
| 11:10.56 | Sixen | Gotta be possible hp |
| 11:10.58 | Arthas- | SC2 VIDEOS! |
| 11:11.02 | Arthas- | :DDDD |
| 11:11.30 | Arthas- | even cooler if we can do it with the hyperion where you walk on the ship |
| 11:11.37 | Arthas- | awesome machinima will be awesome |
| 11:11.45 | Inschato | Well, for the purpose of a video you could just make an air unit that is really low to the ground |
| 11:11.56 | ANdyBear22 | How do you make a building show its range when you're building it? |
| 11:12.03 | Arthas- | i kinda wanna have it fro the game too :) |
| 11:13.26 | ript1de | im following this tutorial, but whwen i placed the modified unit i get a red dot inteh map editor http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/creating-your/ |
| 11:13.31 | ript1de | am i doing something wrong? |
| 11:14.36 | Fisker | this is going to be fun Sixen |
| 11:14.44 | Sixen | lol |
| 11:14.48 | ANdyBear22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:15.29 | lolwut_ | if i run a trigger using the Run Trigger function, it skips events right? |
| 11:15.37 | Arthas- | lolwut_ yeah |
| 11:15.40 | peterpants | what is it that makes the creep tumor have a big AOE circle around it when you build ilt |
| 11:15.41 | lolwut_ | cool |
| 11:15.49 | Cilution | morning guys.. anything particularly cool come out since last night that I should check out? |
| 11:15.54 | Sixen | ~seen witchsong |
| 11:15.56 | purl | witchsong <noreply@6.210.16.62.customer.cdi.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 29m 54s ago, saying: ':D'. |
| 11:15.58 | Sixen | Morning Cilution |
| 11:16.11 | Arthas- | Sixen witchsong is mia :\ |
| 11:16.12 | ShadowTiger | did you hear about how Blizzard hid a million dollars in the galaxy editor? |
| 11:16.20 | Arthas- | i need to go there and kick his ass for disappearing |
| 11:16.20 | Sixen | lol |
| 11:16.23 | Sixen | He's on MSN |
| 11:16.25 | Sixen | weird. |
| 11:17.00 | Grum | lol nice map Inschato |
| 11:17.04 | Grum | but its kinda unclear when you die |
| 11:17.10 | Grum | and yeah i reached lvl6 |
| 11:17.17 | Grum | 879 kills :) |
| 11:17.21 | Inschato | Heh, like I said level 6 is a joke |
| 11:17.43 | Inschato | Check the triggers to see how I made the spawns faster |
| 11:17.45 | Grum | also, turning on lifebars makes it way easier |
| 11:18.01 | Cilution | what map is this? ;p |
| 11:18.05 | Inschato | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/files/425/845/Whackazerg.SC2Map |
| 11:18.09 | Sixen | (4:00:18 AM) Inschato: http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/files/425/845/Whackazerg.SC2Map |
| 11:18.12 | Grum | how do you loose a life Inschato? |
| 11:18.13 | inSync | Inschato: is it possible to get over 900 kills? ive done it 2x now. and got 900 both times. |
| 11:18.21 | Inschato | The units time out after ~8 seconds |
| 11:18.38 | Inschato | I dunno inSync, I only tested the version with level 6 once |
| 11:18.41 | Grum | Inschato: yeah it is lol i just stoped nuking at the end =) |
| 11:19.26 | Inschato | Also nukes don't stop the units from spawning in level 6 because it ignores the SpawnCounter variable |
| 11:19.33 | ANdyBear22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:19.37 | Inschato | I'll go fix that now, upload tommorow :p |
| 11:19.55 | ShadowTiger | now I understand why someone was complaining about the upgrade system... |
| 11:20.17 | Sixen | Alright, 4:20AM. I have to sleep. |
| 11:20.44 | Inschato | I just realized the queens in level 6 won't despawn like the other units either, not that it really matters ha... |
| 11:21.02 | Grum | Inschato: i also didnt notice 'N' was nuke until later :P |
| 11:21.04 | Sixen | night guys. |
| 11:21.07 | Inschato | nighteo |
| 11:21.09 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 11:21.13 | Sixen | Inschato, set nuke to middle mouse button imo |
| 11:21.19 | Inschato | I can set it to both |
| 11:21.25 | Sixen | That works too : |
| 11:21.25 | Grum | Sixen: no! |
| 11:21.25 | Sixen | :P |
| 11:21.26 | Inschato | I might save middle for something else though |
| 11:21.31 | Grum | hehe |
| 11:21.33 | Grum | LAZER! |
| 11:21.36 | Sixen | chea |
| 11:21.41 | Sixen | NOWAI |
| 11:21.45 | Sixen | Sharks with lazer beams. |
| 11:21.45 | Grum | wtb Colosus lazer ;( |
| 11:21.53 | Sixen | We have shark units we can place in water. |
| 11:21.58 | Inschato | Later I plan to have certain flier units fly across the map to give you things like extra lives, more artillery ammo, or bonus points |
| 11:22.06 | Sixen | That'd be awesome :D |
| 11:22.20 | Grum | Inschato: also i got +10000 ammo twice |
| 11:22.25 | Sixen | I think I might tryand work on UI Customization in MilkyWayEdit, so we can design custom UI's for the maps. |
| 11:22.25 | Inschato | Really? Hrm |
| 11:22.32 | Grum | i think i got all ammo twice :P |
| 11:22.38 | Sixen | GE only lets us remove stuff as i've seen, in the GameUIData file, right? |
| 11:23.01 | Sixen | Remove and resize was all I noticed, nothing about adding/creating custom interfaces. |
| 11:23.05 | Inschato | That's kind of strange.. I think I can fix it saftely though since I think I know why |
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| 11:23.41 | Grum | if you kill 2 mobs at the same time for 'lvl 6' you prolly get 2 events triggered |
| 11:24.01 | Sixen | alright. /sleep. |
| 11:24.05 | Inschato | Yeah, kind of like that. I'll put a stop to it with a dozen more lines of code |
| 11:24.53 | zeerti | Hey does anyone in here know how the fuck the Cinematic specific editor works? |
| 11:24.54 | ShiftKalicompton | sixen what does your tutorial do? :s all i see is the 4 drones |
| 11:25.07 | zeerti | I can't get the sequence to launch nor can I find a trigger to make it go |
| 11:25.18 | zeerti | I've tried making another sequence to launch that sequence, but it doesn't work. |
| 11:25.28 | Sixen | Hrm |
| 11:25.32 | Sixen | doesn't work, shift? |
| 11:25.40 | Sixen | Type -help, it should popup the commands |
| 11:25.49 | ShiftKalicompton | the game opened and theres 3 commands |
| 11:25.53 | Grum | k time to fix up my lava thingie :) |
| 11:26.02 | Sixen | Move, MoveTo, and something else iirc |
| 11:26.03 | ShiftKalicompton | loc, move, and something about coordinates |
| 11:26.17 | Sixen | Yeah, loc gets your current screen view coords |
| 11:26.27 | Sixen | move x y - moves units to that loc |
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| 11:26.37 | Sixen | or rather, moveto x y does that |
| 11:26.42 | Sixen | move moves the units to your screen view |
| 11:26.51 | Inschato | notices there were two "defeat" codes.. one old and taking up space.. /deletes |
| 11:26.53 | Sixen | It was before GE was released, we did that all with Galaxy API. |
| 11:27.32 | ShiftKalicompton | seems like it will be a headache to learn |
| 11:28.27 | Cilution | oh level 6.. i was not expecting that.. should have chain nuked |
| 11:28.39 | Sixen | Shift, we have most of the Galaxy API Documented. |
| 11:29.00 | Sixen | We're just missing some of the AI functions. |
| 11:29.14 | ShiftKalicompton | im not really a programmer, i just want to explore and try a few things |
| 11:29.39 | ShiftKalicompton | i've made a melee map in galaxy editor. thats about it. |
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| 11:30.27 | Hati | someone has found an arrow symbol or smth like that? |
| 11:30.36 | Terin | Yeah. |
| 11:30.37 | fnosse | Whipdedoo!!! got the editor! |
| 11:31.08 | Sixen | Shift, check out the Galaxy Getting started tutorial. |
| 11:31.14 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/ |
| 11:31.36 | Sixen | Alright, I gotta sleep. It's 4:30am |
| 11:31.37 | HBHades | im at a loss... |
| 11:31.51 | HBHades | this seems like such an easy thing but im totally lost |
| 11:32.09 | HBHades | TriggeringUnit == "Barracks" |
| 11:32.29 | HBHades | cant figure out how to compare it to barracks |
| 11:32.30 | Hati | nvm |
| 11:32.37 | Hati | using terran splat :P |
| 11:32.41 | Inschato | o.O |
| 11:33.07 | Inschato | That statement is comparing the TriggeringUnit (Being whatever unit is referred to in the Event) to the Unit type Barracks |
| 11:33.20 | Inschato | So if the unit in the Event is a barracks, it returns True |
| 11:33.41 | HBHades | only i cant tell it to compare to a barracks |
| 11:33.54 | HBHades | "Barracks" wont work |
| 11:34.02 | HBHades | theres is no get unit type |
| 11:34.07 | HBHades | that i can find |
| 11:34.29 | Inschato | Value 1 = Unit Type |
| 11:34.50 | HBHades | ?? |
| 11:35.09 | Inschato | Comparison((UnitGetType((EventUnit()))), ==, "Ghost") |
| 11:35.20 | Inschato | That's what my raw says for mine |
| 11:35.49 | Inschato | brb |
| 11:35.56 | Fisker | awww Sixen |
| 11:36.03 | Fisker | it can't autocast nukes apparently |
| 11:36.05 | Fisker | what a shame |
| 11:36.23 | zeerti | Anyone know how to help me? |
| 11:36.38 | HBHades | lol |
| 11:36.39 | HBHades | thanks |
| 11:36.49 | HBHades | i knew that was much easier then i though |
| 11:36.51 | HBHades | thought |
| 11:36.57 | zeerti | can anyone hear me? ;) |
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| 11:37.13 | HBHades | i missed your question |
| 11:37.15 | Inschato | It can Fisker, you just have to set the search filter properly |
| 11:37.17 | Grum | same |
| 11:37.29 | Fisker | pretty sure i did Inschato |
| 11:37.32 | Inschato | Hmm :/ |
| 11:37.56 | zeerti | Have any of you guys messed with the cinematic editor? the one that is specific to cinematics and isn't in the trigger editor? |
| 11:38.18 | Fisker | or wait search filter |
| 11:38.27 | Fisker | the one i found was called "Auto Cast Filter" |
| 11:38.38 | Inschato | I think there are other filters involved |
| 11:38.46 | Inschato | Namely the fact that nuke is cast on a POINT, not a unit |
| 11:39.14 | Xan | is there an AI editor in galaxy? |
| 11:39.20 | zeerti | Yes. |
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| 11:39.28 | Fisker | i think i might have it now |
| 11:40.43 | zeerti | Anyone know |
| 11:40.44 | Inschato | If it doesn't work, try changing Ghost - Nuke (Calldown)'s Location + to Target Unit instead of Target Point |
| 11:40.44 | zeerti | ? |
| 11:41.05 | Inschato | (or both) |
| 11:41.19 | Xan | where? |
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| 11:41.57 | zeerti | xan do you mean in the legit editor or the sc2mapster one? |
| 11:42.02 | Xan | galaxy |
| 11:42.03 | Grum | can you use a variable somewhere in an output message? i'd like to print what the unitname is of the 'Picked Unit' |
| 11:42.19 | Xan | I mean, to specifically edit melee AI etc. |
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| 11:42.43 | zeerti | Not that i've found, however, they have very detailed triggers. |
| 11:43.01 | zeerti | but I've not spent the time looking for it ;) |
| 11:43.07 | Xan | yes but, wc3 had a small AI editor, that's why I was asking :p |
| 11:43.17 | zeerti | I'm sure it does if wc3 had one |
| 11:43.28 | Xan | didn't find :/ |
| 11:44.33 | zeerti | Hmm... |
| 11:44.43 | zeerti | If I wasn't at work... |
| 11:44.43 | zeerti | lol |
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| 11:45.32 | Terin | Eh, is there some way to make the map bounds visible in the 3d viewport? |
| 11:46.41 | Dinoo | huu |
| 11:46.47 | zeerti | No clue Terin |
| 11:46.55 | HBHades | i think so |
| 11:47.03 | HBHades | remember doing it yesterday |
| 11:47.04 | Dinoo | I'm trying to create an item but there's nothing in the "Item Class" dropdown, while I did create some item classes, why ? D: |
| 11:47.21 | Dinoo | (Following Biffu's tutorial and I fail at that point) |
| 11:47.34 | zeerti | Dinoo I don't think they have implemented Items yet as everyone on the SC2 Forums have yet to make any either as far as I know |
| 11:47.37 | Thels | ah |
| 11:47.40 | Thels | ling rush is fixed? |
| 11:47.47 | zeerti | yeah haha |
| 11:47.51 | Dinoo | zeerti : http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/complete-hero/ |
| 11:48.04 | HBHades | View->Show Terain->Show bounds |
| 11:48.05 | Hati | Terin: try V |
| 11:48.57 | zeerti | Well shit. xD |
| 11:49.02 | zeerti | proved me all wrong dinoo |
| 11:49.11 | Dinoo | ha, got it :) |
| 11:49.34 | zeerti | Does anyone know how to attach units and make them attack? |
| 11:49.40 | zeerti | Scratch that I know how to do that. |
| 11:49.54 | zeerti | Does anyone know how to make it so that a unit can attack multiple units? |
| 11:49.58 | Terin | Thanks, HB. |
| 11:50.12 | zeerti | I've tried changing the effect to allow 3 targets, yet when it attacks still nothing. |
| 11:50.21 | zeerti | only that 1 |
| 11:53.19 | zeerti | essentially how do I create an Uberlisk? |
| 11:53.52 | Xan | how do I make a ceiling= |
| 11:53.52 | Xan | ? |
| 11:53.53 | Xan | :P |
| 11:54.04 | zeerti | a ceiling? |
| 11:54.09 | Dinoo | you don't |
| 11:54.12 | Dinoo | you just die trying |
| 11:54.12 | zeerti | you mean so its underground? |
| 11:54.12 | Dinoo | :D |
| 11:54.17 | Xan | :/ |
| 11:54.25 | zeerti | Xan? |
| 11:54.42 | Xan | blizzard showed in the "fps", they made a ceiling to walk under |
| 11:54.54 | Xan | like in a cave etc |
| 11:55.11 | zeerti | I've yet to see a trigger to enable underground or to go into a building |
| 11:55.20 | Xan | not a trigger |
| 11:55.22 | zeerti | let alone make a ceiling. |
| 11:55.24 | Xan | talking about terrain |
| 11:56.16 | monoframe | Xan, I think the cieling is a doodad |
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| 11:56.27 | zeerti | it would make sense. |
| 11:56.32 | monoframe | Not "sculped terrain" |
| 11:56.47 | qwebirc46241 | hi, is there any way to play your own maps? |
| 11:56.52 | monoframe | But we have "Terrain Object" property |
| 11:56.52 | zeerti | yes |
| 11:56.54 | Dinoo | Xan |
| 11:56.54 | monoframe | in Terrain Tool |
| 11:57.15 | Xan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAtmOLTMqPg - 6:25 |
| 11:57.26 | Dinoo | Xan - I think what they had in the FPS demo was an hollow models with textures inside, and the camera in it |
| 11:57.41 | Xan | the whole cave is a doodad? |
| 11:57.52 | monoframe | Not whole, just the cieling P: |
| 11:57.59 | monoframe | And added some minor doodads |
| 11:58.01 | Xan | the whole ceiling? :P |
| 11:58.14 | Dinoo | oh I was thinkign about the building |
| 11:58.14 | monoframe | Xan, you know the "Dome" doodad in WC3? |
| 11:58.16 | Dinoo | lemme check the cave |
| 11:58.19 | ANdyBear22 | How do I set buildings to show their range when im building them? |
| 11:58.19 | monoframe | That one biggy |
| 11:59.04 | Xan | but the cave is pretty huge that they showed |
| 11:59.04 | Xan | :/ |
| 11:59.25 | Dinoo | Use the water tool :D |
| 11:59.39 | Dinoo | with a stone texture |
| 11:59.41 | monoframe | ok, let me dl this video in HD |
| 11:59.42 | Xan | rofl |
| 11:59.43 | monoframe | I'll then consult you |
| 12:00.02 | Xan | water tool is only one sided though?(from above) |
| 12:00.09 | Dinoo | dunno |
| 12:00.10 | Xan | can't see the texture from below |
| 12:00.12 | Dinoo | is it ? D: |
| 12:00.17 | Xan | I thought so |
| 12:01.14 | Grum | humz with galaxy script can you actually do calculations while calling a funciton? i'm trying to do: Wait( riseTime - 0.4, c_timeGame) but that seems to be invalid ? O.o |
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| 12:03.21 | peterpants | wait only takes 1 parameter i thought |
| 12:03.25 | peterpants | you have a comma |
| 12:03.37 | peterpants | ah no nvm |
| 12:03.41 | Grum | yes but 'riseTime - 0.4' should work, its a 'real' so .. |
| 12:03.44 | peterpants | i have no idea |
| 12:03.53 | Grum | do i need to do anything else for simple aritmetic? O.o |
| 12:04.13 | peterpants | you could try converting the result what to fixed |
| 12:04.25 | Grum | how do you mean? |
| 12:05.16 | lolwut_ | can we test maps over b.net yet? |
| 12:05.59 | Inschato | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/5-whackaling-v0-1-1/ |
| 12:06.02 | Inschato | Time for sleep :) |
| 12:06.15 | HBHades | whackaling is so entertaining |
| 12:06.17 | HBHades | ty! |
| 12:06.56 | Grum | whooo |
| 12:06.58 | HBHades | lolwut: nope |
| 12:07.01 | Grum | my lava is doing periodical damage =D |
| 12:07.07 | HBHades | rock on |
| 12:07.10 | Grum | a bit much !.. but still =D |
| 12:07.56 | ANdyBear22 | Why does an actor have a unit, not a unit have an actor... |
| 12:08.01 | ANdyBear22 | It seems so unnessesary. |
| 12:08.30 | peterpants | agreed |
| 12:08.46 | zeerti | Grum how did you set that? |
| 12:09.02 | zeerti | and I don't understand how the fuck actors work. |
| 12:09.28 | ANdyBear22 | so if I want to create a custom unit, I have to create another actor... for the same look.. its dumb D: |
| 12:09.48 | HBHades | unit is the compilation of model actor abilities and effects right? |
| 12:10.17 | Terin | Is there some way to play in windowed fullscreen mode launching from the editor? |
| 12:10.23 | Dinoo | hmmm |
| 12:10.27 | Terin | It defaults to fullscreen, and there's an option for just windowed. |
| 12:10.28 | Dinoo | so I can make equipment now |
| 12:10.32 | HBHades | sec i may have a way |
| 12:10.33 | Dinoo | Dunno how to make consumables though :( |
| 12:10.39 | Grum | zeerti: on a specific unit: Environment - Create Baneling - Suicide (Unit Damage) on (Picked unit) from (Picked unit) |
| 12:10.54 | lolwut_ | no way to play over b.net is there? |
| 12:11.00 | HBHades | nvm editor launches with no command line arguments |
| 12:11.01 | Grum | yes there is lolwut_ |
| 12:11.14 | HBHades | its a hacked up way |
| 12:11.17 | Grum | but please dont make us explain *again* how |
| 12:11.21 | lolwut_ | ah |
| 12:11.22 | lolwut_ | heh |
| 12:11.24 | lolwut_ | ok |
| 12:11.29 | Grum | its not convenient |
| 12:11.42 | Terin | You basically join a lobby for a map, and replace that map with your own map. |
| 12:11.43 | lolwut_ | ill have a working version of zone control for sc2 soon, wanted to tets |
| 12:11.46 | lolwut_ | but i can wait |
| 12:11.54 | lolwut_ | test* |
| 12:11.54 | Grum | what is zone control? |
| 12:11.58 | lolwut_ | its um |
| 12:12.01 | Terin | It's hard to find out what map is what, though, as they aren't named properly. |
| 12:12.07 | lolwut_ | like footman maddness |
| 12:12.11 | lolwut_ | but |
| 12:12.12 | Inschato | It's a UMS that I never played despite seeing it on the list so much lol |
| 12:12.13 | lolwut_ | you control zones |
| 12:12.21 | lolwut_ | wait |
| 12:12.23 | lolwut_ | sec |
| 12:12.33 | Inschato | mostly played Tower Defense maps and sometimes Custom Hero Wars |
| 12:12.36 | Inschato | Anyway, bed nao |
| 12:12.46 | lolwut_ | meh |
| 12:12.47 | Dinoo | any tutorial on hero stats ? |
| 12:12.53 | lolwut_ | its cool, ill wait |
| 12:12.55 | lolwut_ | :p |
| 12:16.37 | HBHades | ...all in a days work |
| 12:16.49 | HBHades | looks like day one is finally complete for me |
| 12:17.02 | HBHades | GE -1 Hades - 0 |
| 12:22.47 | Hati | some has yet figured out how to do custom bars in interface? |
| 12:22.57 | Fisker | why is localization stupid anyway? |
| 12:23.31 | lolwut_ | like health bars hati? |
| 12:23.44 | zeerti | yeah lolwut |
| 12:23.53 | Hati | yea |
| 12:23.56 | Hati | or Timer bars |
| 12:24.09 | Hati | like reload weapon :P |
| 12:24.54 | lolwut_ | im guessing they're made using the dialog triggers |
| 12:25.11 | Hati | ah gonna try |
| 12:25.19 | lolwut_ | ive done buttons |
| 12:25.21 | lolwut_ | not images yet |
| 12:25.37 | lolwut_ | but i guess just scaling the images depending on progress |
| 12:26.23 | Hati | nah there's some kind of progress ar |
| 12:26.28 | Hati | bar* |
| 12:27.08 | lolwut_ | there's a "display boss bar" action |
| 12:27.38 | lolwut_ | and leaderboard progress bars |
| 12:27.56 | Hati | no |
| 12:27.58 | Hati | in dialog |
| 12:28.09 | Hati | Create Dialog Item |
| 12:28.15 | Hati | then you can Select Progress bar |
| 12:28.16 | Fisker | this is so stupid i might even get a brain tumor |
| 12:28.21 | lolwut_ | or that |
| 12:28.23 | lolwut_ | heh |
| 12:28.29 | monoframe | Guys, how to cap FPS in GE? |
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| 12:28.37 | Fisker | preferences |
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| 12:28.45 | monoframe | It goes off to 300s or so from 25 S: using unnecessary GPU power |
| 12:29.00 | monoframe | oh ok |
| 12:29.23 | Fisker | my brain is exploding Hati |
| 12:29.25 | Fisker | i can't handle it |
| 12:29.36 | Hati | aspirin |
| 12:29.41 | Beider | Anyone know where I can adjust the offset that an effect spawns at relative to the unit casting it? For instance trying to give a marine the stalker weapon, the two laser lines spawn over the head of the marine instead of from the gun. |
| 12:29.52 | Hati | yes |
| 12:29.58 | Hati | same as Issue ordering |
| 12:30.13 | Fisker | aspirin can't fix this |
| 12:30.33 | Hati | lolwut_ how you added a button to dialog? |
| 12:30.44 | zeerti | Beider have you checked the effect? |
| 12:30.50 | zeerti | err... |
| 12:30.54 | zeerti | now I forget |
| 12:30.55 | Beider | Yeha I looked all over the place but can't seem to find it |
| 12:30.58 | Beider | checked the actors |
| 12:31.00 | Beider | the effect |
| 12:31.06 | Beider | and looking through the weapon atm |
| 12:31.09 | zeerti | it wont be the actor or effect |
| 12:31.16 | lolwut_ | Create Dialog Item (Button) |
| 12:31.54 | Hati | simple this? |
| 12:31.59 | Hati | Create Dialog before right? |
| 12:32.03 | lolwut_ | yep |
| 12:32.09 | Hati | ah ok i see my dialog xD |
| 12:32.13 | Hati | it was just to small ^^ |
| 12:32.32 | zeerti | Beider, a temp fix would be to make the marine larger lol |
| 12:32.47 | Beider | yeah but I got different weapons that the marine can switch between |
| 12:32.53 | Beider | I am using items as my weapons |
| 12:32.56 | zeerti | Ah |
| 12:33.07 | zeerti | could make the item enlarge him if he has it |
| 12:33.19 | Beider | that I could but it would be a bit silly :P |
| 12:33.28 | zeerti | for now, looks like the only fix :P |
| 12:33.29 | lolwut_ | silly, or awesome? |
| 12:33.30 | lolwut_ | ^^ |
| 12:33.36 | HBHades | any easy way to get a players current minerals? |
| 12:33.43 | Fisker | how the fuck does this even work |
| 12:33.44 | Fisker | raaaaaaaaaaawr |
| 12:33.50 | Beider | lolwut_ : invader zim? :P |
| 12:33.55 | zeerti | Uhh HBH there should be a library thing |
| 12:33.59 | lolwut_ | :) |
| 12:34.14 | Fisker | i can't believe this editor is what they use internally |
| 12:34.27 | lolwut_ | obviously is |
| 12:34.35 | lolwut_ | they have all the campaign functions in it |
| 12:34.36 | zeerti | i can, do you see the shit it dos? |
| 12:34.40 | Hati | http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3595/screenshot054w.jpg |
| 12:34.41 | Hati | ! |
| 12:34.52 | HBHades | PlayerGetPropertyInt() thanks |
| 12:35.01 | lolwut_ | what are you making hati? |
| 12:35.07 | zeerti | HATI HOW DID YOU DO THAT?! |
| 12:35.10 | Hati | Operation Terran Shield! |
| 12:35.16 | HBHades | nice |
| 12:35.16 | lolwut_ | lol? |
| 12:35.17 | zeerti | xD |
| 12:35.29 | zeerti | Like what did you use to get that box at the bottom? |
| 12:35.35 | lolwut_ | dialog triggers |
| 12:35.36 | Hati | dialog |
| 12:35.42 | lolwut_ | its pretty easy |
| 12:35.47 | zeerti | haven't messed with it yet xD |
| 12:36.08 | zeerti | and you used a "apply camera" to get the view? |
| 12:36.18 | Hati | yup |
| 12:36.23 | Hati | Camera is in Data Editor |
| 12:37.01 | zeerti | ? |
| 12:37.26 | zeerti | can oyu set the default camera angle? |
| 12:37.38 | Hati | yea |
| 12:37.45 | zeerti | how do you do that? |
| 12:37.47 | zeerti | data editor? |
| 12:37.50 | Hati | just edit DefaultCamera without copy/duplicate |
| 12:37.55 | Hati | just edit the files in it |
| 12:37.59 | Hati | you will gain a new one for your map |
| 12:38.09 | Hati | which is highest priority in data load process |
| 12:38.16 | Hati | so custom map values > default |
| 12:38.28 | zeerti | ah alright |
| 12:38.39 | Hati | so you can edit all units in the files without really messing around |
| 12:39.26 | Dinoo | huuu |
| 12:39.29 | zeerti | so when it does the copy does it then use the copy over the original? |
| 12:39.40 | Fisker | btw |
| 12:39.46 | Fisker | i suggest you go add localization to your maps |
| 12:39.52 | Fisker | in b4 brain blowing up |
| 12:39.53 | zeerti | how? |
| 12:39.57 | Dinoo | I'm trying to make Yamato Cannon splash, so I changed it's effect damage Kind to spalsh and Radius to 30 in a 360 arc. It still doesnt splash. Any idea ? :( |
| 12:40.08 | Fisker | exactly zeerti |
| 12:40.08 | Dinoo | What's strange it that the exact same method works with weapons |
| 12:40.17 | Hati | Dinoo - did you changed the Kind of effect? |
| 12:40.19 | Hati | to Splah ? |
| 12:40.22 | Hati | splash* |
| 12:40.25 | zeerti | Dinoo you need to change the effect |
| 12:40.37 | Dinoo | yeah hati |
| 12:40.46 | Dinoo | hmmm, maybe the problem is targeting ? |
| 12:40.46 | Hati | then you need to edit AreaArrays |
| 12:41.05 | Dinoo | Yamato Cannon is a single target ability, so I was expecting it to splash around the unit I click, but maybe you have to change targeting for it to work ? |
| 12:41.40 | Dinoo | areaarrays, where is that ? |
| 12:41.43 | zeerti | hey dinoo I got a video for you |
| 12:42.02 | Dinoo | :D |
| 12:42.44 | zeerti | if I can find it... |
| 12:42.49 | FrozenFirebat | Anybody figure out how to give all units in a region to a player? |
| 12:42.49 | Dinoo | D: |
| 12:43.29 | Dinoo | FrozenFirebat : Action - Unit - Change Owner ? |
| 12:44.22 | FrozenFirebat | that's what I thought |
| 12:44.50 | FrozenFirebat | but it won't give me all units in a region, just 1, and by index |
| 12:44.53 | lolwut_ | how did you hide the rest of the interface hati? |
| 12:45.37 | lolwut_ | nvm |
| 12:46.02 | Fisker | haha |
| 12:46.02 | Dinoo | FrozenFirebat : For X from 1 to unitgroupSize, change owner of unit at index X in group to player 1 |
| 12:46.07 | Fisker | you gotta be fucking kidding me |
| 12:47.19 | Hati | http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5518/screenshot055o.jpg this looks so crappy |
| 12:47.27 | Dinoo | or better, there's a "For each unit in (unit group) action, FrozenFirebat |
| 12:47.33 | zeerti | wait how did you remove to UI? |
| 12:48.02 | Hati | triggers |
| 12:48.11 | Fisker | ok |
| 12:48.12 | Dinoo | Action - UI - Hide *** |
| 12:48.19 | zeerti | wow thanks |
| 12:48.20 | Fisker | localization is so fucking retarded i don't think i can bother |
| 12:48.31 | zeerti | Fisker, what does localization do? |
| 12:48.35 | lolwut_ | which frame do i hide to get rid of the bottom panel? |
| 12:48.45 | Fisker | So you can have your maps in other languages |
| 12:48.57 | Fisker | btw |
| 12:48.58 | Dinoo | so Hati, where's that AreaArray thing ? ^^ |
| 12:49.00 | Fisker | enUS maps != enGB maps |
| 12:49.05 | Hati | effects |
| 12:49.14 | Fisker | so if you play an enUS map in enGB it'll show "Param/bllalbla/blalbla" |
| 12:49.17 | Fisker | instead of text |
| 12:49.21 | Dinoo | hmm |
| 12:49.22 | Hati | properly named Area+ |
| 12:49.32 | Fisker | so that's messed up right there |
| 12:49.34 | Fisker | So now i'm trying to add localization |
| 12:49.50 | Fisker | But from what i can see i apparently have to find every freaking thing that was changed and the modify the text manually |
| 12:49.54 | Dinoo | yeah, Area+ |
| 12:49.55 | Hati | dinoo |
| 12:49.56 | Hati | FieldArchon - Archon Damage |
| 12:49.56 | Hati | (None) - Area +{360|360|360}|{-1|-1|-1}|{0.093|0.4|0.8}|{0|0|0}|{0|0|0}|{1|0.5|0.25}|{||} |
| 12:49.56 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.57 | Dinoo | I chagned that too |
| 12:49.58 | Hati | ie |
| 12:50.05 | Fisker | It's not like you can just duplicate enUS and rename it to enGB and then change it in the text editor |
| 12:50.06 | Fisker | nooo |
| 12:50.08 | Fisker | that would be too easy |
| 12:50.14 | Dinoo | I put 360 arc, 50 maximum targets, 30 radius |
| 12:50.36 | Dinoo | still doesn't work, the fact that's it's an ability targeted on a single unit cause this to not work I think |
| 12:50.43 | Hati | look Into archon data |
| 12:50.47 | Hati | might you see something |
| 12:50.49 | zeerti | Dinoo go to 1min 15 seconds |
| 12:50.51 | zeerti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuJtY3t18ps |
| 12:51.19 | zeerti | is that what you're trying to do? |
| 12:51.53 | Dinoo | yeah |
| 12:52.00 | zeerti | figured :D |
| 12:52.08 | Dinoo | Archon auto attack splash ? |
| 12:52.31 | Dinoo | Hati : I managed to make auto attack splash by changing Area+, yeah. But the exact same method doesnt work for Yamato Cannon |
| 12:52.37 | Dinoo | Gonna try to change it to aoe targeting |
| 12:54.32 | Fisker | ahahah |
| 12:54.36 | Fisker | this is so stupid |
| 12:54.57 | lolwut_ | hm |
| 12:55.07 | lolwut_ | anyone have a idea how to move the minimap |
| 12:55.11 | lolwut_ | like in the ghost map? |
| 12:55.28 | lolwut_ | or is that in the xml?/not editor |
| 12:58.51 | Grum | haha! rising damaging lava =) |
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| 13:01.48 | Hati | nice |
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| 13:02.17 | Cyb3r | does someone know how to replace model files :<? I've just imported a m3 from a old sc2 version and want to use it now for a custom unit |
| 13:02.41 | zeerti | Cyb3r you have to make sure you have the same texture for it as well |
| 13:02.56 | Cyb3r | and then? |
| 13:03.04 | zeerti | once you import it there are a few ways to utilize it. |
| 13:03.10 | Cyb3r | ok |
| 13:03.26 | zeerti | There is a trigger to change the model, yet to use it |
| 13:03.35 | zeerti | trigger to change the texture as well. |
| 13:03.58 | Cyb3r | hm how in wc3, kewl .< well let's see now |
| 13:04.33 | zeerti | How ever, I think your best bet is to go into the unit editor and find the thing that chooses its model via file path |
| 13:04.51 | zeerti | and change it from there |
| 13:05.23 | zeerti | because the trigger only changes specified units into the new model |
| 13:05.41 | zeerti | and I can see that later in the game should you have several of them the game slowing due to the trigger instead of preloading them. |
| 13:05.54 | Dinoo | wow strange |
| 13:06.00 | Cyb3r | dunno, I've created a new model in the model index, but can't find in the model path finder my imported stuff |
| 13:06.03 | HBHades | old sc2 version eh? |
| 13:06.07 | Dinoo | When I target it it actually show several units will get hit now |
| 13:06.12 | Dinoo | but still damages |
| 13:06.14 | Dinoo | 0* |
| 13:06.17 | HBHades | you got some awesome model that got removed? |
| 13:06.42 | zeerti | Dinoo you need to make the other units untargetable |
| 13:06.58 | zeerti | and then make a trigger so when the main unit dies it destroys the added units |
| 13:07.38 | zeerti | that's the only way I've been able to get it to work properly |
| 13:07.50 | Hati | wtb cool looking progress bar :( |
| 13:07.56 | Dinoo | oO |
| 13:08.00 | zeerti | make one Haiti :D |
| 13:08.05 | zeerti | Dinoo did that make sense? |
| 13:08.06 | Hati | but theres one <.< |
| 13:08.30 | Hati | the default dialog window would be fair enough |
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| 13:12.53 | Cyb3r | why I can't find the unit textures in the editor? are they hidden in the MPQ ? :< |
| 13:13.03 | Dinoo | zeerti |
| 13:13.06 | Dinoo | got it to work :) |
| 13:13.35 | zeerti | 1 moment |
| 13:13.54 | Dinoo | It even does fractional damages depending of the distance of the unit from target unit |
| 13:14.14 | monoframe | Awesome FPS numbers going crazy...from 25 to 400 >:| |
| 13:15.09 | Grum | http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.SC2Map <-- lava! =D |
| 13:15.17 | Dinoo | Removed the effect from my copy of Yamato Cannon Ability, created a whole new damage effect, put stuff in Area+, Kind : Spell (doesnt even need Splash), and it works |
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| 13:15.48 | monoframe | Grum, the one rising ? |
| 13:15.52 | monoframe | And doing damage? |
| 13:15.52 | Dinoo | when I click the ability and hover over a target, the other units it's going to hit are highlighted too ^^ |
| 13:15.55 | Grum | and damaging! |
| 13:15.58 | Corosus | nice! |
| 13:16.07 | PixelWarrior | Hey guys |
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| 13:16.09 | Grum | go load the map :P |
| 13:16.11 | zeerti | cyb3r the textures are in the MPQ's some of them are also in the previewer if I remember correctly |
| 13:16.14 | Grum | and respond fast =) |
| 13:16.14 | monoframe | Is it scripted, or the player must do some actions beforehand? |
| 13:16.14 | Mapoh | hey guys |
| 13:16.19 | Cyb3r | ty |
| 13:16.20 | Mapoh | how to host my own map on battle net? |
| 13:16.23 | Grum | monoframe: periodically (static) |
| 13:16.26 | monoframe | oh ok |
| 13:16.32 | monoframe | Mapoh, you can't..yet |
| 13:16.34 | draken | did us come up with new patch before EU ? |
| 13:16.36 | Grum | can script it trivially enough though |
| 13:16.40 | Mapoh | seriously? |
| 13:16.43 | monoframe | But there's a way to play it with your friend |
| 13:16.44 | Mapoh | that sucks :D |
| 13:16.47 | Mapoh | how? |
| 13:16.59 | monoframe | Just be sure both you have the custom map renaimed after an official one |
| 13:17.03 | monoframe | and put in it's place |
| 13:17.08 | PixelWarrior | anyone know how to set global variables rather than local variables? |
| 13:17.16 | dorkass | create it on the trigger menu |
| 13:17.22 | monoframe | And be sure NO ONE joins your game, except for you and your friend |
| 13:17.28 | monoframe | Or else SCII will crash .. |
| 13:17.48 | monoframe | Mapoh, check SC2mapster news..they have several dating about a week ago which explain it |
| 13:18.00 | monoframe | with couple of youtube clips |
| 13:19.02 | Grum | anyone tested my rising+damage lava map? :D http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.SC2Map |
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| 13:20.21 | monoframe | You're using only one region? |
| 13:20.39 | Dinoo | nice one Grum |
| 13:20.41 | Grum | just one is needed for that particular section yeah |
| 13:21.00 | monoframe | Oh I see why |
| 13:21.05 | monoframe | It's on the same level |
| 13:21.10 | Fisker | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/446-localization/ <-this is how easy it is to add localization |
| 13:21.11 | monoframe | IF it would be diagonal.. |
| 13:21.12 | Grum | yeah almost the same level |
| 13:21.12 | Fisker | in 4 easy steps! |
| 13:21.15 | monoframe | more regions would be needed |
| 13:21.18 | Fisker | (for every part of localization there is) |
| 13:21.33 | monoframe | ok, gonna test it :) |
| 13:21.37 | Corosus | worksk here |
| 13:21.46 | Corosus | oh god the pain, oh arnold |
| 13:22.07 | Dinoo | <monoframe> more regions would be needed << why ? |
| 13:22.09 | Fisker | remember to localize it Grum |
| 13:22.12 | Fisker | it's fucking easy |
| 13:22.19 | Dinoo | it changes from one region to the other gradually, not instantly |
| 13:22.24 | Dinoo | there's a trigger for that |
| 13:22.42 | Grum | Dinoo: there is? |
| 13:22.53 | Grum | right now its kinda blunt |
| 13:23.03 | Grum | i sortof have to time when to activate the damage for a certain region |
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| 13:23.17 | qwebirc19436 | hey |
| 13:23.37 | monoframe | OK, working |
| 13:23.39 | qwebirc19436 | anyone know how to use imported sounds? |
| 13:23.41 | monoframe | Dinoo, if it would DIAGONAL |
| 13:23.46 | monoframe | Like a slope |
| 13:23.49 | monoframe | Or a hill |
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| 13:24.00 | Fisker | Grum |
| 13:24.08 | Fisker | see how easy it is to add localization |
| 13:24.10 | Fisker | feel my pain |
| 13:24.28 | qwebirc19436 | anyone know how to use imported sounds? |
| 13:24.55 | lolwut_ | thats pretty awesome grum |
| 13:24.58 | Cyb3r | yeah, is there any tutorial how to import and use stuff like sounds |
| 13:25.01 | Dinoo | hmmm |
| 13:25.03 | Dinoo | hey Grum |
| 13:25.05 | Grum | Fisker: that tutorial is completely shit |
| 13:25.09 | Grum | :( |
| 13:25.12 | Fisker | it's not a tutorial |
| 13:25.15 | Fisker | it's fucked up |
| 13:25.17 | Dinoo | you could use "Height of Unit" + "Unit in region" and just make a square region ! :) |
| 13:25.33 | Fisker | I could extract the enUS gamestrings, and repack it in enGB |
| 13:25.34 | Grum | Dinoo: 'height of unit' ? |
| 13:25.36 | Fisker | i would be done |
| 13:25.39 | Dinoo | yeah, it's in Compare |
| 13:25.44 | Dinoo | you can Compare the Height of a unit |
| 13:25.49 | Dinoo | (condition) |
| 13:25.54 | qwebirc19436 | anyone know how to use imported sounds? |
| 13:25.55 | Fisker | But the way Blizzard wants us to do it is by manually finding every string and then refreshing/remaking it |
| 13:26.22 | Grum | Dinoo: back to basics, first of all, i cannot see *what* the lava is covering |
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| 13:26.32 | Grum | right now i use a region shaped to where the lava will be |
| 13:26.38 | Grum | as the level differene of the lava is minimal |
| 13:26.39 | Dinoo | yeah but |
| 13:26.44 | Grum | i activate taht complete region in 1 go |
| 13:26.49 | Cyb3r | aren't there really tutorials which tell how to use imported stuff? |
| 13:26.49 | Dinoo | if the unit is in the zone where the lava is |
| 13:26.58 | Dinoo | and its height is lower than the lava |
| 13:27.00 | Dinoo | it has to be in |
| 13:27.08 | Grum | how can i get the height of the lava? |
| 13:27.17 | Grum | that would be awesome if i could get that :D |
| 13:27.33 | monoframe | Using triggers? |
| 13:27.44 | Grum | well just give me anything |
| 13:27.53 | qwebirc19436 | anyone know how to use imported sounds? |
| 13:27.58 | monoframe | So you want to get Lava Height value using triggerS? |
| 13:27.59 | monoframe | Or whaT? |
| 13:28.09 | Grum | i can simply make it something like: 'if unit in region && unitheight <= lavaheight then ZOMGWTFBBQ AUCHI end |
| 13:28.16 | Grum | monoframe: yeah pleas |
| 13:28.30 | monoframe | qweb, we would've told ya if we would know |
| 13:28.51 | monoframe | Well, for the first one, you could form a unit group |
| 13:28.53 | monoframe | and then use it |
| 13:28.59 | Grum | qwebirc19436: a guess: place them at the proper location inside the mapfile and then simple use them as if they were 'normal ingame sounds' |
| 13:29.04 | monoframe | Say Air units won't get damaged, but loose their speed |
| 13:29.11 | monoframe | Big units like Thor, can surive |
| 13:29.18 | monoframe | While SCVs just melt down P: |
| 13:29.20 | Grum | nah everyone dies right now |
| 13:29.25 | Cyb3r | hey qweb, I know now how to use them |
| 13:29.29 | monoframe | So assign unit groups |
| 13:29.32 | Grum | but back to the 'height of the lava' |
| 13:29.34 | Grum | how can i get that? |
| 13:29.45 | monoframe | Don't know |
| 13:29.54 | Grum | Dinoo! |
| 13:29.54 | qwebirc19436 | Grum: i tried doing that, it didnt work |
| 13:29.55 | monoframe | I don't think there is such |
| 13:30.05 | Grum | well .. it is a property which is changing |
| 13:30.06 | monoframe | As you must check terrain Z height |
| 13:30.08 | HBHades | qweb or KWebb? |
| 13:30.09 | Grum | can you get random properties? |
| 13:30.13 | monoframe | and water isn't terrain... |
| 13:30.15 | monoframe | well it is S: |
| 13:30.18 | Grum | properties of objects ? |
| 13:30.35 | Grum | its an object, a plane, wchih you define in xml and the transition simply changes the 'height' value to something else |
| 13:30.39 | Grum | if i can find that value ... |
| 13:30.51 | Cyb3r | you go to sounds , create an item, and then you select your file in sound objects?!(don't know how it is defined in english, I got only a german version) |
| 13:31.14 | Hati | is there no log in galaxy ? |
| 13:31.27 | Hati | logarithm* |
| 13:31.49 | Cyb3r | for what |
| 13:32.06 | Hati | for calculations oO |
| 13:32.10 | Cyb3r | oO |
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| 13:32.31 | Grum | also something else |
| 13:32.36 | Cyb3r | I've just seen a logarithm function but to calculate, dunno |
| 13:32.37 | Grum | apparently you can get the 'height' ofa region |
| 13:32.43 | Grum | but if you edit regions they are all on the same height |
| 13:32.48 | Grum | anyone know how that works? |
| 13:33.27 | zeerti | can you make multiple region settings like with the wateR? |
| 13:33.48 | Grum | no idea |
| 13:33.51 | Cyb3r | weill height can be maybe be the Y axis not the Z..., thus it won't work |
| 13:33.52 | Cyb3r | @grum |
| 13:34.19 | Grum | Cyb3r: huh? that makes no sense :) |
| 13:34.20 | Dinoo | Grum, I know what the value is when the lava is up |
| 13:34.30 | Dinoo | but what would be nice would be to track it while its changing |
| 13:34.33 | Grum | Dinoo: can you get that programatically? |
| 13:34.36 | Grum | if so, how |
| 13:34.46 | Bemoliph | It's the type of height, not the actual height |
| 13:34.58 | Dinoo | Nah, can only get it in your water's properties for now :( |
| 13:35.26 | Grum | Dinoo: euuh? yeah i can edit it ... but i cant access it from galaxyscript |
| 13:36.56 | Cyb3r | does anyone know the current map size limit for hosting maps in battle.net ? is it like wc3 8mb? |
| 13:37.03 | Grum | Dinoo: there are 3 options, 1) i can find the 'actual height' of the water by being able to access it from galaxy script then i can check against that height |
| 13:37.14 | Grum | 2) i can set the height of a waterplane, then i can control it and therefor know the height |
| 13:37.31 | Grum | 3) i have to make a 'calculator' which calculates the height as it goes along the scale and therefor 'know' the height |
| 13:37.54 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/operation-terran-shield/. Operation Terran Shield. xhatix (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
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| 13:38.12 | vjeux | heya |
| 13:38.26 | Dinoo | what do you mean with 2) ? You just want to know what's the height of a water plane when you place it in the editor ? |
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| 13:38.34 | Grum | vjeux: http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.SC2Map <-- lava! =D (save the thor! ;D) |
| 13:38.45 | vjeux | great |
| 13:38.50 | vjeux | make a youtube vid! |
| 13:39.03 | Megalon | thor is hier |
| 13:39.11 | Grum | Dinoo: if i can 'set the height' then i can control it |
| 13:39.24 | Grum | but i have to be able to set it from galaxyscript/triggers obviously |
| 13:39.38 | Megalon | there has to be a way, as it was shown in one of the singleplayer vids |
| 13:39.48 | Grum | Megalon: i already can rise lava |
| 13:39.58 | qwebirc46241 | anyone already has a nice tower defense? :) |
| 13:40.01 | Grum | the problem is making it do damage if it rises on a slope |
| 13:40.04 | Megalon | but you can't get the height while it is rising? |
| 13:40.10 | Megalon | ah |
| 13:40.14 | Grum | Megalon: yeah there for slopes are a problem |
| 13:40.18 | Deadeye | Hey all, I got a question. I've been playing around wit hthe map editor but I can't figure out how to sort..make my terrain textures more diverse. My map seems pretty monotone. How do you change this up? |
| 13:40.27 | Grum | in the testmap i just linked i sortof not deal with that problem :p |
| 13:40.40 | Grum | Deadeye: you have 8 layers of textures |
| 13:40.49 | Grum | so just 'alpha out a certain layer' |
| 13:40.57 | Grum | to get more blending and therefor different tints |
| 13:41.00 | Dinoo | meh |
| 13:41.15 | Grum | Dinoo: i think i should go for the 'calculate height' for now then |
| 13:41.23 | Dinoo | you could make a lot of water states every 0.2 height |
| 13:41.23 | Deadeye | where can I find my pallete, so to say? |
| 13:41.28 | Dinoo | boring though :p |
| 13:41.51 | Grum | Dinoo: well that is ... more painful that doing the calculation :p |
| 13:42.05 | Grum | WaterSetState <-- i have to find the implementation of that :D |
| 13:42.31 | PixelWarrior | hey vjuex, do u know if we can move the x,y positioning of boss bars? |
| 13:42.45 | Grum | vjeux: feel free to make a movie of that lava stuff |
| 13:42.49 | Grum | i cant atm :) |
| 13:43.07 | Dinoo | try to make a point move at the same speed as the lava, and then compare the height of the unit to height of point :p |
| 13:43.23 | Corosus | to anyone still without a beta key using patch 8 to still use custom ai: new map! http://sc2.nibbits.com/maps/view/132234/steppes-of-war-money-map |
| 13:43.26 | Dinoo | sadly there's no "move point gradually over X second" action, or it would be easy to make it move at the same speed |
| 13:43.27 | Hati | so gonna upload youtube vid :P |
| 13:43.30 | Grum | well there are different implementations for the rising scale |
| 13:43.31 | Hati | and going to store |
| 13:44.01 | vjeux | I can't either |
| 13:44.01 | vjeux | I lost my home connection |
| 13:44.03 | vjeux | i'm on 3g ... |
| 13:44.05 | vjeux | so sloww |
| 13:44.13 | Grum | vjeux: WTF! |
| 13:44.19 | Grum | and test my map! its just 42kb :p |
| 13:44.33 | Grum | 3g is nto even an excuse! |
| 13:44.50 | vjeux | i have power outage too! (ok .... ) |
| 13:46.02 | Deadeye | Grum: Do I do this in the Map > Map Textures area? |
| 13:46.04 | dorkass | yo where do you change the actual damage a unit does..? |
| 13:46.10 | vjeux | Corosus: people without beta key can't dl the patch 9? |
| 13:46.29 | Grum | Deadeye: no, terrain |
| 13:46.43 | Grum | Deadeye: did you just floodfill textures on your map orso? |
| 13:47.03 | Fisker | vjeux |
| 13:47.09 | Fisker | did you see how awesome localization is? |
| 13:47.10 | Deadeye | I just started with the base color the map started with. Is there a way to "paint"? |
| 13:47.12 | Grum | because you get a 'brush' to paint on each of the alpha layers of each texture (8 of them) on any given point on the map |
| 13:47.19 | Grum | Deadeye: yes? |
| 13:47.23 | Dinoo | hmmm |
| 13:47.30 | Dinoo | can you get the value of a timer ? |
| 13:47.33 | dorkass | deadeye just go to the terrain layer\ |
| 13:47.40 | Dinoo | (number of seconds passed since timer start) |
| 13:47.41 | dorkass | and click any of the options |
| 13:47.41 | Grum | Dinoo: no but you dont have to |
| 13:47.54 | vjeux | nice grum |
| 13:47.55 | Deadeye | oh my I'm blind |
| 13:48.01 | vjeux | you should make the camera become shaky |
| 13:48.06 | vjeux | and put a big sound! |
| 13:48.09 | Grum | vjeux: yeah i need some effects |
| 13:48.13 | Grum | also when it hits units |
| 13:48.16 | Grum | some splashes orso |
| 13:48.18 | vjeux | yeah |
| 13:48.21 | dorkass | which field do you edit to actually change a units damage in the data manager? |
| 13:48.22 | vjeux | big explosions |
| 13:48.22 | Fisker | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/446-localization/ <- vjeux this is how awesome making localization in SC2 is |
| 13:48.24 | Deadeye | I totally didn't even see that texture button, lol. Now I feel dumb. |
| 13:48.28 | vjeux | blur everywhere |
| 13:48.35 | vjeux | Fisker: yeah saw your thread |
| 13:48.36 | Grum | Fisker: load the images in the post please |
| 13:48.39 | Grum | its just annoying like that |
| 13:48.46 | Dinoo | you could make a 9s timer, and compare the height of the unit to (initial heigth of lava + timer*totalLavaRiseHeight/totalLavaRiseTime) |
| 13:48.53 | Dinoo | something like that |
| 13:48.54 | vjeux | localization has always been annoying, but they clearly did it badly :p |
| 13:49.02 | Dinoo | since it's linear |
| 13:49.03 | Grum | Dinoo: yeah but it has 4 different ways to rise |
| 13:49.08 | Grum | const int c_wtcLinear = 0; |
| 13:49.08 | Grum | const int c_wtcSine = 1; |
| 13:49.08 | Grum | const int c_wtcExponential = 2; |
| 13:49.08 | Grum | const int c_wtcSquareRoot = 3; |
| 13:49.13 | Grum | so yeah the first way is linear :) |
| 13:49.13 | vjeux | lol |
| 13:49.14 | Dinoo | yeah, for your exemple :p |
| 13:49.53 | Fisker | but it makes no sense vjeux |
| 13:50.14 | Fisker | Using a mpq editor i could just make the folders myself and edit the strings like a word document |
| 13:50.20 | Fisker | I would've assumed you could atleast get that |
| 13:50.34 | Dinoo | yes there is grum "Elapsed time of timer" |
| 13:50.37 | Fisker | But that you actually have to get an enGB client to add enGB locale from an enUS map is just insane |
| 13:50.46 | Grum | Dinoo: i can simpl start another repeating timer when i start the rising with a higher resolution |
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| 13:51.05 | Grum | Dinoo: mm |
| 13:51.09 | vjeux | haven't seen a working text yet (enGB pawa!) :P |
| 13:51.31 | Grum | i wish you could 'symlink' enUS to enGH |
| 13:51.34 | Grum | GB even |
| 13:51.44 | Grum | but in wow it was the same retardedness |
| 13:51.45 | Fisker | Well basically you would just copy the enUS.SC2Data folder and call it enGB.SC2Data |
| 13:51.49 | vjeux | I wish they could have a default localisation |
| 13:51.50 | Grum | yeah |
| 13:51.50 | Fisker | then you can repack it and it should work fine |
| 13:52.03 | vjeux | default = enUS |
| 13:52.14 | vjeux | if they don't find a string it would use the enUS one |
| 13:52.28 | vjeux | because atm if it can't find a string it display its name ... |
| 13:52.28 | vjeux | which is lamer |
| 13:52.29 | vjeux | lame |
| 13:52.39 | Fisker | yeah |
| 13:53.09 | Arthas- | ( @vjeux ): I wish they could have a default localisation < will most likely be added |
| 13:53.11 | Fisker | They must almost have something else |
| 13:53.16 | Arthas- | i dont see why they wouldnt do it |
| 13:53.24 | vjeux | well they didn't |
| 13:53.24 | Fisker | it's hard to believe they've localized the game sofar given this way to do it |
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| 13:53.41 | zeerti | I still don't understand what localization is. |
| 13:53.44 | Fisker | I mean if i worked for Blizzard in translation and i got sent an editor like this, i'd probably just hang myself |
| 13:53.45 | Fisker | or quit |
| 13:53.56 | vjeux | :p |
| 13:53.59 | zeerti | does that have to do with language stuff? |
| 13:54.03 | vjeux | zeerti: translation |
| 13:54.12 | [teamclan]Taxman | Does anyone know how to fix the map disallowing placement of doodads? it seems after I place a ramp or something else, I can never place a unit or doodad anywhere near it |
| 13:54.16 | Corosus | vjeux, people without key can dl it, but it breaks all ai implementations, and newer versions of maps use different mapinfo file that breaks all launchers ability to read the maps |
| 13:54.27 | vjeux | ah I see |
| 13:54.29 | vjeux | that's lame |
| 13:54.42 | zeerti | taxman, place the doodad and then go into its properties via double click |
| 13:54.47 | dorkass | i can't believe how retardedly difficult of a time im having trying to edit a unit's damage in the data area |
| 13:54.50 | Corosus | yeah, wouldnt be an issue if GE had a compatibility mode :( |
| 13:54.55 | zeerti | check the box that should read "Follows pathing" |
| 13:54.57 | zeerti | or someting like that |
| 13:55.00 | zeerti | uncheck it |
| 13:55.07 | Arthas- | i just realized |
| 13:55.12 | zeerti | then you can place it anywhere. |
| 13:55.13 | Arthas- | we can create maps without terrain |
| 13:55.14 | dorkass | is there simply a field called 'damage' that I'm completely not seeing? |
| 13:55.24 | Fisker | i'm disappointed i didn't get my photoncannon to spam nukes |
| 13:55.31 | Arthas- | the question i pose is what is it used for! |
| 13:56.30 | Cilution | space flight sim? |
| 13:56.30 | vjeux | dorkass: it's in missile stuff |
| 13:56.30 | Arthas- | Cilution something like that :D |
| 13:56.30 | Cilution | I actually wonder |
| 13:56.32 | Cilution | if you can pull off a Freelancer type control scheme |
| 13:56.39 | Cilution | and just fly around fully |
| 13:56.46 | Cilution | and pewpew some mutalisks coming from all angles |
| 13:56.53 | Arthas- | i actually wonder |
| 13:57.04 | Arthas- | if the room where you pick maps etc |
| 13:57.10 | Grum | mmm Dinoo, you have 'Catalog' get and set stuff |
| 13:57.11 | Arthas- | is a map like this build up using only doodads? |
| 13:57.17 | [teamclan]Taxman | Does anyone have an idea why water sometimes doesn't show and sometimes it does immdiately? |
| 13:57.22 | Grum | and it appears water is stored in there c_gameCatalogWater |
| 14:00.12 | Grum | but now to actually read from the catalog |
| 14:01.56 | ANdyBear22 | Hey all, i'm working on a TD type map, and im wondering how I can send a new wave once one wave is finished, either by them reaching the end, or all units being killed. |
| 14:02.15 | Cilution | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sunken-d/ |
| 14:02.20 | Cilution | load up that map |
| 14:02.22 | Cilution | and see how he did it |
| 14:02.39 | ANdyBear22 | is it done how i've explained? |
| 14:02.54 | Cilution | if killed yes |
| 14:03.01 | Cilution | if 1 reaches end i think that map is game over |
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| 14:03.12 | Cilution | which you might be able to easily change |
| 14:03.19 | ANdyBear22 | Okay, thank you! |
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| 14:04.34 | vjeux_ | PixelWarrior: Grammar Text: Move boss bar BossBarID to Anchor of screen with offset (OffsetX, OffsetY) |
| 14:04.43 | vjeux_ | Move Boss Bar |
| 14:05.01 | PixelWarrior | wheres that? |
| 14:05.33 | vjeux_ | Library / Builtin / UI / Boss Bar |
| 14:05.36 | PixelWarrior | how do i add those parameters in |
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| 14:06.10 | falco252 | Hi |
| 14:06.10 | vjeux_ | just make an action with Move Boss Bar |
| 14:06.18 | PixelWarrior | k lemme try |
| 14:06.23 | vjeux_ | hey Falco252 |
| 14:06.51 | Falco252 | vjeux tu serais pas français par hasard ? j'ai déjà vu ton nom |
| 14:07.16 | vjeux | yes I am |
| 14:07.56 | monoframe | YES YOU ARE! |
| 14:08.14 | vjeux | france > * |
| 14:08.23 | Tokoji | I agree |
| 14:09.17 | PixelWarrior | vjeux: works, but still no way currently to scale it |
| 14:10.09 | vjeux | if you want to scale it, just copy & paste the lib and edit it to fit your needs |
| 14:11.43 | Grum | can you move doodads? :) |
| 14:12.37 | zeerti | I think you can grum. |
| 14:12.41 | Grum | how? :/ |
| 14:12.51 | zeerti | trigger, delete and then create a new one |
| 14:12.52 | zeerti | i suppose |
| 14:12.53 | Grum | there seem to be no actions related to doodads other than stop/start animation |
| 14:12.57 | Grum | how to create one? |
| 14:13.01 | zeerti | don't recall |
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| 14:13.19 | zeerti | I would check but im at work |
| 14:13.39 | Grum | can you move units or something similar easier? |
| 14:13.54 | zeerti | yeah same way |
| 14:14.00 | Grum | (i want to just forcible position something on a certain height) |
| 14:14.04 | zeerti | except I think you can just move units instead of deleting and creating |
| 14:14.21 | zeerti | You can make units face a specific direction |
| 14:14.29 | Grum | meh |
| 14:14.35 | Grum | you can move units to 'points' |
| 14:14.43 | Grum | but those are just X,Y |
| 14:14.45 | zeerti | I think you can teleport them too |
| 14:14.56 | Grum | yeah Move () Instantly To () |
| 14:15.43 | [teamclan]Taxman | Anyone know how to place the same doodad, instead of having it change everytime you put another down? Like, how certain doodads have various shapes to them |
| 14:15.57 | Grum | copy/paste them? :( |
| 14:15.58 | vjeux | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtUq3HzAU08 (by Hati) |
| 14:16.13 | vjeux | [teamclan]Taxman: you can disable randomization |
| 14:16.29 | Falco252 | Wow, the trigger isn't so hard /p |
| 14:16.34 | vjeux | Tool / Random |
| 14:16.46 | Falco252 | It's like prog |
| 14:17.01 | zeerti | vjeux, how is he aiming in that video? |
| 14:17.04 | zeerti | arrow keys? |
| 14:17.09 | Grum | how to print something from a trigger with the contents of a variable which is not a string? :/ |
| 14:17.13 | Hati|NotHere | re |
| 14:17.21 | [teamclan]Taxman | vjeux: after disabling randomization, how can I specify which doodad I want from my selection? |
| 14:17.24 | Hati | A & D |
| 14:17.30 | zeerti | ah |
| 14:17.32 | Hati | @ zeerti |
| 14:17.33 | vjeux | [teamclan]Taxman: dunno :x |
| 14:17.35 | zeerti | ty hati |
| 14:17.48 | ANdyBear22 | heh, I got to the last wave in that sunken D map |
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| 14:18.13 | vjeux | is that map playable? |
| 14:18.13 | Hati | & W + S = up & down |
| 14:18.22 | Falco252 | You can change it |
| 14:18.25 | Hati | well you can play - but yet no units |
| 14:18.49 | Grum | anyone on debug information? :/ |
| 14:18.50 | Lazbro | is there a workaround to have a switch statement that compares the contents of an array? :) |
| 14:18.55 | Grum | its kinda annoying i cannot simply print some values ;D |
| 14:19.07 | HBHades | Grum im with you |
| 14:19.16 | vjeux | Lazbro: what do you need? |
| 14:19.27 | Lazbro | I'm (also) implementing keyboard controls :p |
| 14:19.27 | HBHades | if anyone comes up with some nice debug methods |
| 14:19.37 | Hati | Lazbro you can use the Catalog |
| 14:19.38 | HBHades | i will be in debt to you |
| 14:19.39 | Hati | in triggers |
| 14:19.42 | Hati | to look up |
| 14:19.50 | Hati | if you get it to work xD |
| 14:19.54 | Lazbro | so I put WASD into an array and now I need a switch statement to prevent endless if/then blocks |
| 14:20.03 | Lazbro | Hati: needs to be MP viable tho |
| 14:20.09 | Hati | this movement sucks. |
| 14:20.16 | Grum | humz you can do Debug Message with 'Combined Text' and 'Convert XXXX to Text' (XXX = Real/Integer etc) |
| 14:20.18 | Hati | you need atleast 2 threads for 4 movements |
| 14:20.22 | Lazbro | ? |
| 14:20.33 | Hati | otherwise you cannot move diagonal |
| 14:20.42 | Hati | or the unit will stuck on 2 buttons pressed |
| 14:20.52 | zeerti | hmmm |
| 14:21.11 | Lazbro | oh np I think, I have triggers for when you press or release a key and it sets a variable in this array |
| 14:21.24 | Lazbro | so if you push W and A, it sets the array to 1 1 0 0 |
| 14:21.29 | Lazbro | now I need the switch statement :p |
| 14:21.46 | HBHades | General - Switch? |
| 14:22.03 | Lazbro | yes but how do I make it compare a boolean array to another array? |
| 14:22.07 | Grum | HBHades: Debug - Display (Text((Elapsed time of IdleTimer)) with 1 decimal places) as debug output using Type 1, and Do display it in the game window |
| 14:22.13 | Lazbro | it seems to request a #. |
| 14:22.17 | Grum | but that is not really convenienent :p |
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| 14:23.55 | Lazbro | I could do it based on a bitfield. |
| 14:24.06 | Lazbro | if you press W, it does +1 to a variable. |
| 14:24.10 | Lazbro | A, +2 |
| 14:24.12 | Lazbro | S, +4 |
| 14:24.13 | HBHades | so outpost wars is looking like it could make it by release...assuming release is still happening XD |
| 14:24.15 | Lazbro | and D, +8 |
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| 14:24.44 | HBHades | Outpost Wars (Formerly Castle Fight) |
| 14:24.49 | Lazbro | and then a switch statement with 8 options |
| 14:24.49 | Grum | HBHades: or worse: Debug - Display (Text((Elapsed time of IdleTimer)) with 1 decimal places) as debug output using Type 1, and Do display it in the game window |
| 14:24.53 | Grum | meh fial paste |
| 14:24.57 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.31 | Lazbro | ofc I HOPE there are no circumstances where you can register a key press but not a key release or you're stuck |
| 14:25.42 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/toleria-valley/. Toleria Valley. Vork13 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 14:26.08 | Lazbro | hmm if you go into the menu and then release the key |
| 14:26.10 | Lazbro | crap |
| 14:26.17 | Grum | HBHades: in code that becomes: TriggerDebugOutput(1, (StringExternal("Param/Value/EE1E11FD") + FixedToText(TimerGetElapsed(gv_idleTimer), c_fixedPrecisionAny) + StringExternal("Param/Value/4B1874F8")), true); |
| 14:26.23 | Lazbro | it really wants me to make 8 monster if/then statements, doesn't it? |
| 14:26.52 | vjeux | are there any playable map already map? |
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| 14:27.10 | peterpants | is there any way to specify specific teams for players |
| 14:27.26 | vjeux | peterpants: through triggers |
| 14:27.31 | vjeux | Set Alliance |
| 14:27.34 | peterpants | well ya |
| 14:27.46 | peterpants | but how is that gonna work when they're on b.net |
| 14:27.52 | peterpants | just say top 4 slots is team 1, etc. |
| 14:28.02 | vjeux | dunno |
| 14:28.06 | peterpants | <shrug> |
| 14:28.06 | peterpants | kk |
| 14:28.08 | Cyber_ | I just wonder whether it's possible to have a cursor with a 3rd person cam |
| 14:28.08 | Lazbro | blaaah |
| 14:29.02 | zeerti | what do you mean cyber? |
| 14:29.19 | ANdyBear22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.32 | Lazbro | do any of you programming heads know which is fastest: for all active players, [do a whole lot of stuff with unit(picked player)] or [variable=unit(picked player); do a whole lot of stuff with var]? |
| 14:30.10 | Dinoo | ANdyBear22 make a unit group of the wave, check if 0 unit of that groups is on the map or something |
| 14:30.52 | Cyber_ | well I've got a third person camera similar to the one once blizzard presented, but I can just rotate with my mouse, not click anymore :O |
| 14:31.16 | Cyber_ | but I would like to rotate and klick |
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| 14:32.53 | Wolf | Anyone know how to add new races? |
| 14:33.04 | Bemoliph | Data Editor > Races |
| 14:33.46 | Wolf | Yeah, ive done that, but i cant seem to be able to choose that race for new units im making for them |
| 14:33.54 | ichard45 | has anyone gotten the attack wave stuff to work? |
| 14:34.12 | Grum | Lazbro: make working first optimizelater! |
| 14:34.50 | Bemoliph | Wolf: Hang on, I crashed myself |
| 14:36.05 | Fisker | wasn't there an built-in movement library? |
| 14:36.26 | [teamclan]Taxman | Anyone know a hotkey that lets you shift x,y,z of a doodad on the fly? |
| 14:37.16 | Grum | [teamclan]Taxman: 'shift' ? |
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| 14:37.29 | Bemoliph | Wolf: When you made your race in the Data Editor, you made sure to set it as Selectable, right? |
| 14:37.44 | Bemoliph | As one of the Flags |
| 14:38.00 | Grum | [teamclan]Taxman: you can just move them around and ctrl changes the facing, shift/alt also do something :D |
| 14:38.17 | TheLaughingMan | Quick Question, does anyone know how to do unit morphing with animations and changing the model? |
| 14:39.34 | Grum | also funny a repeating timer of 0.2s repeats each 0.25s >< |
| 14:39.37 | monoframe | TheMan, you'll need to use ActorData for that, besides making abilities |
| 14:39.55 | monoframe | As the models are interchanging |
| 14:40.28 | Grum | and lol .. 0.1 -> 0.125 |
| 14:40.31 | Grum | oh wait its gametime |
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| 14:40.36 | DarkIce | Anyone run into a problem with turrets, "cannot turn towards target" ? |
| 14:41.06 | PixelWarrior | how do u set way points for created units? |
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| 14:41.24 | TheLaughingMan | monoframe, do you have an example? |
| 14:41.46 | monoframe | NIET, but you could take a look at lets say Viking |
| 14:41.56 | monoframe | Blizzard's defaults are all there up |
| 14:42.22 | monoframe | Or burrowing Zerg units |
| 14:42.31 | monoframe | Those also use ActorData but for other function |
| 14:43.32 | Dinoo | Grum ? |
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| 14:44.11 | Grum | Dinoo? |
| 14:44.26 | Dinoo | I tried stuff with Height for the lava and it turns out the Height in the lava property isn't the same thing as the Height of an unit >_< |
| 14:45.07 | Dinoo | I made a simple trigger (if unit's height <4, take damage) |
| 14:45.10 | Grum | did you manage to access the lava height value? |
| 14:45.11 | [teamclan]Taxman | Anyone know what you use to keep a specific part of the map lit? |
| 14:45.21 | Grum | Dinoo: i think you need to get the unit Z not height :) |
| 14:45.23 | Dinoo | and it need to be very high to not take the damages (highest point of your terrain) |
| 14:45.26 | Grum | i think th height is the actual mocal height |
| 14:45.36 | Grum | *modal |
| 14:45.39 | Dinoo | well, when the unit goes to the highest point of your terrain it stops taking damages from this trigger |
| 14:45.40 | Grum | *model even gaarrrgghh |
| 14:45.50 | Dinoo | so it's doesnt seem like its the model height |
| 14:46.09 | Grum | YAH .. yet another height ;( |
| 14:46.16 | Dinoo | >_< |
| 14:46.21 | Dinoo | gonna try with Z position yeah |
| 14:46.26 | TheLaughingMan | Blah |
| 14:46.28 | Grum | so how to get the model Z |
| 14:47.05 | Dinoo | lolwut |
| 14:47.14 | Dinoo | there's only "X of point" and "Y of point" in comparisons >_< |
| 14:47.21 | Dinoo | giev Z of point |
| 14:47.39 | Dinoo | oh, there's Height of point ... |
| 14:47.52 | Dinoo | but it's realtive to the terrain ... |
| 14:48.03 | Grum | height at point as well |
| 14:48.19 | Dremora_ | Is there a way to add more tiles? |
| 14:48.25 | Grum | what kind of tiles? |
| 14:48.28 | Labmonkey2 | guys |
| 14:48.33 | Labmonkey2 | is there an obj to m3 converter yet |
| 14:48.34 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 14:48.36 | Grum | and no the mapsize is limited to 256x256 |
| 14:48.37 | Dremora_ | From other tilesets |
| 14:48.50 | Grum | Dremora_: oh those tiles; 8 is the limit so it seems |
| 14:48.58 | Grum | though the mapformat can support more the editor doesnt atm |
| 14:49.10 | Dremora_ | aww |
| 14:49.27 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 14:49.27 | Dinoo | ... |
| 14:49.30 | Labmonkey2 | anybody know |
| 14:49.51 | Grum | Labmonkey2: all model stuff is broken atm as they changed the m3 format with patch 9 |
| 14:49.57 | Labmonkey2 | oh |
| 14:50.00 | Labmonkey2 | eww ok |
| 14:50.09 | Dinoo | If Height of Unit is supposed to returns the Height relative to the terrain (ie Height at which the unit is flying), why does it change when I walk to an higher terrain >_< |
| 14:50.25 | Grum | because there are 2 types of terrain |
| 14:50.30 | Grum | 'cliff level' and 'terrain level' |
| 14:50.55 | monoframe | How to "lock" doodad from being selectable? |
| 14:51.14 | Grum | monoframe: in the editor? |
| 14:51.18 | monoframe | Yes |
| 14:51.23 | Grum | dunno if you can :( |
| 14:51.33 | monoframe | DARN YOU BLEEZ0RD!!! |
| 14:51.59 | Grum | why is it a problem? :p |
| 14:52.08 | Cilution | main the editor is burning me out.. trying to learn too much too fast |
| 14:52.24 | Dinoo | oh nevermind, it wsnt taking damages cause I got out of the region |
| 14:52.31 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:52.36 | Dinoo | well, I sent a message displaying the height of my unit to all players |
| 14:52.45 | Grum | how? :D |
| 14:52.47 | [teamclan]Taxman | Is Terrain meant as an asthetic and now really functional gameplay wise? |
| 14:52.53 | Dinoo | UI - text message ^^' |
| 14:52.54 | [teamclan]Taxman | *not |
| 14:52.55 | Dinoo | and it's always 0 |
| 14:52.59 | peterpants | Cilution: it sounds like you need a motivational song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDMhGFa9wnI |
| 14:53.00 | Dinoo | it's for a ground unit though |
| 14:53.01 | Grum | ok fuck that |
| 14:53.12 | Dinoo | so it's probably the height at which it's flying, or a broken function |
| 14:53.44 | Dinoo | Why did they they put "X of point) and (Y of point) functions and not (Z of point) T_T |
| 14:53.54 | Cilution | thanks peter, just what I needed |
| 14:53.56 | Cilution | ;p |
| 14:54.26 | peterpants | lol |
| 14:54.31 | peterpants | it always gets me through hard times |
| 14:54.45 | Cilution | I use asian women for that |
| 14:55.32 | peterpants | you'll get many more if you show them your pokemon |
| 14:56.12 | Cilution | nah I just need to move to Japan |
| 14:56.24 | PixelWarrior | How do i "Order" Unit to move? |
| 14:56.33 | peterpants | Japan would be cool |
| 14:57.03 | Cilution | I'd tower over them at my massive 5'11 |
| 14:57.44 | [teamclan]Taxman | Previewer seems like a powerful tool, what exactly is it used for? |
| 14:57.44 | Hati | Someone has already tested - what are the reqs for Issue Orders? |
| 14:57.53 | Hati | does the unit needs the Ability |
| 14:57.54 | Hati | etc. |
| 14:58.01 | Cilution | so my Grand Theft Starcraft idea has reached a staggering level of complexity and intimidation |
| 14:58.02 | Grum | it works perfectly Dinoo |
| 14:58.08 | ANdyBear22 | Can you have a trigger without an event, just a condition? |
| 14:58.11 | peterpants | Taxman: you can see attachment points? is about all i've decided it's useful for |
| 14:58.16 | Hati | yes ANdy |
| 14:58.23 | Dinoo | what does Grum ? |
| 14:58.25 | Hati | you can use Run Trigger to launch them |
| 14:58.29 | Grum | lemme paste |
| 14:58.45 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/first-td-w/ |
| 14:58.45 | ANdyBear22 | you lost me Hati |
| 14:59.02 | Hati | ? |
| 14:59.07 | Hati | oh |
| 14:59.07 | vjeux | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/first-td-tutorials/ |
| 14:59.12 | Hati | forgot to read :P |
| 14:59.15 | [teamclan]Taxman | peterpants: I saw that, I'm wondering if you can make scenes it it for when big events occur on a map |
| 14:59.17 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.17 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.17 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:59.38 | Grum | 'Height at' 'Ground' 'Picked Unit' works like a charm |
| 15:00.00 | Fisker | Does unit creation ignore cliffs? |
| 15:00.04 | Grum | bit less horror: TriggerDebugOutput(1, (CombineTextMultiple("Unit: ", (UnitTypeGetName((UnitGetType((UnitGroupLoopCurrent()))))), ", height: ", (FixedToText((WorldHeight(c_heightMapGround, (UnitGetPosition((UnitGroupLoopCurrent()))))), c_fixedPrecisionAny)))), true) |
| 15:00.17 | monoframe | *hearthattack* |
| 15:00.41 | Grum | meh that was more horror :D |
| 15:01.00 | Grum | last try ;) |
| 15:01.01 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.10 | Grum | those StringExternals make it horror again! |
| 15:01.30 | Dinoo | I don't get it oO |
| 15:01.35 | Grum | but that works way nicer, not to implement it |
| 15:01.51 | Grum | Dinoo: Height at Point is different from Height on Point |
| 15:02.09 | Dinoo | Ground height at (Position of (Picked unit) |
| 15:02.12 | Dinoo | where is that ? |
| 15:02.21 | Cilution | can you make data editor libraries, like a sort of hero template, and import them, like you can with triggers? |
| 15:02.31 | Dinoo | where do you get "Ground height" |
| 15:02.33 | Grum | Dinoo: picked unit is the unit which is currently being iterated over in the loop |
| 15:02.41 | Dinoo | yeah I know ^^' |
| 15:02.50 | Grum | humm let me find the name its under |
| 15:03.01 | Grum | 'Height At Point' its called |
| 15:03.27 | Dinoo | oh, it's in environment not in point, lol >_< |
| 15:03.34 | Grum | yeah just search all of it =D |
| 15:03.47 | Grum | but that works like a charm |
| 15:03.50 | PixelWarrior | i cant trigger a unit to walk towards a point |
| 15:03.54 | PixelWarrior | anyone have any idea? |
| 15:04.01 | Dinoo | ok |
| 15:04.06 | Grum | you want it to walk or teleport PixelWarrior? :D |
| 15:04.07 | Dinoo | I have a working dynamic trigger for your lava then |
| 15:04.12 | [teamclan]Taxman | So does anyone know how to make a doodad emit light? Like a lamppost always remove fog of war under it? |
| 15:04.15 | peterpants | the search is my most used tool |
| 15:04.15 | PixelWarrior | teleport i can do |
| 15:04.16 | PixelWarrior | walking i cant |
| 15:04.43 | Grum | PixelWarrior: mmm no idea ;( havent done that |
| 15:04.54 | Grum | Dinoo: i have to simplify my map though |
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| 15:05.01 | Hati | hmm |
| 15:05.03 | Cilution | yeah light is one area I haven't even touched yet, I bet most people haven't |
| 15:05.09 | Hati | k |
| 15:05.31 | Hati | Requirement for Unit Issue Order (Move) - Unit have to has a Speed attribute != 0 & acceleration != 0 |
| 15:05.50 | Falco252 | Can we hide the hud? |
| 15:06.19 | peterpants | if you hide everything |
| 15:06.30 | peterpants | i'm curious if you can hide everything and then say show a paticular part |
| 15:06.32 | peterpants | but i havn't tested it |
| 15:06.49 | Grum | Falco252: yeah you can; action UI -> Show/Hide <...> |
| 15:07.01 | Grum | lots of stuff you can show/hide there :) |
| 15:07.19 | Grum | Show/Hide Gam UI for example |
| 15:07.26 | Falco252 | wow nice, thanks |
| 15:08.40 | ANdyBear22 | Im trying to create a trigger that will Add+1 to a variable, and when the variable hits 2, I want a different trigger to start. How do I get that trigger to start when the variable = 2? just putting a condition doesn't work... :( |
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| 15:09.58 | Falco252 | Now it will help if we Equip the weapon to Marinie. go Back to the Unit tab and find the field for Weapons + and double click on the value. a Window should come up that just has a table with one entry. Click on that entry and In the weapon drop down box choose Marinie's Weapon and then hit ok |
| 15:10.07 | Falco252 | I don't understand this part |
| 15:10.10 | Falco252 | where is weapon + ? |
| 15:10.13 | Saladom | english is hard. |
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| 15:10.42 | dorkass | what's the diff between game time and real time? |
| 15:10.55 | Cilution | game time is affected by the speed of the game |
| 15:10.56 | Cilution | real time is not |
| 15:11.01 | peterpants | weapons+ is found under the unit |
| 15:11.01 | dorkass | sweet |
| 15:11.03 | zeerti | dorkass, game time is speed of the game and normal time is well normal |
| 15:11.11 | zeerti | damn i'm late lol |
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| 15:11.23 | dorkass | my brain stopped working with me hours ago |
| 15:11.25 | Grum | you kinda want to do everything in gametime i think |
| 15:11.35 | zeerti | why grum? |
| 15:11.37 | peterpants | gametime is sexytime |
| 15:11.38 | arepakiller | sup guys |
| 15:11.55 | Dinoo | Yay |
| 15:11.58 | Grum | zeerti: map difficulty affects gametime .. so erm .. 'fast' vs 'faster' etc :) |
| 15:11.58 | Dinoo | it works, Grum :) |
| 15:12.05 | Cilution | the very first thing I do any time I start a new map is add a trigger to set the map speed to faster... I can't stand the default... (is there a way to actually change your default without needing the trigger?) |
| 15:12.08 | Grum | Dinoo: i'd hope so hehe |
| 15:12.14 | zeerti | Oh... haha never thought about that :P |
| 15:12.16 | Grum | how did you calculate the height? custom? |
| 15:12.28 | Dinoo | Made a trigger that calculate the lava height depending of the time since it started rising/dropping |
| 15:12.44 | Grum | paste it. |
| 15:12.54 | Dinoo | actually I made 4 |
| 15:13.00 | zeerti | yeah im curious how to set the lava height |
| 15:13.07 | Dinoo | when the lava is rising : |
| 15:13.07 | Grum | zeerti: you cant set the height |
| 15:13.10 | Grum | you can move it |
| 15:13.12 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.31 | zeerti | thats what I meant grum :P |
| 15:13.34 | Fisker | how do i spawn lets say 100 zerglings and get them all to move to a specific location? |
| 15:13.36 | zeerti | didn't say it right though. |
| 15:13.40 | [teamclan]Taxman | Where is the data that determines how much energy an ability costs? |
| 15:13.46 | zeerti | really fisker? lol |
| 15:13.49 | Grum | zeerti: make another state and 'SetWaterState' between them |
| 15:13.54 | zeerti | ah alright |
| 15:14.03 | Fisker | yarr zeerti |
| 15:14.08 | Dinoo | then I have one for when the lava is dropping : (Ground height at (Position of (Picked unit))) <= (higherHeight - (heightDiff * ((Elapsed time of Lavadown) / riseTime))) |
| 15:14.11 | Grum | and you can make a state in the terrain editor -> edit water |
| 15:14.23 | Dinoo | and when it's at top/bottom its constant so np |
| 15:14.27 | zeerti | so I figured out when I was playing with the water |
| 15:14.44 | Grum | Dinoo: should be doable with a single timer |
| 15:14.56 | Dinoo | yeah |
| 15:14.57 | Tokoji | Fisker : use unit group |
| 15:15.12 | Saladom | an energy costs is in an ability data tab. |
| 15:15.18 | Dinoo | a timer that has the whole cycle in it, and yu check if the timer is in its first 9 seconds, etc ... |
| 15:15.32 | Fisker | how do i make them part of the unit group? |
| 15:15.45 | Grum | mm you need 2 timers |
| 15:15.52 | Grum | 3 even |
| 15:15.55 | Cilution | I'm going to be sad when beta ends and our licenses likely expire and we have to wait a week or more to go pick up retail :( |
| 15:16.12 | peterpants | oh man |
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| 15:16.16 | peterpants | that will be bad |
| 15:16.20 | peterpants | but we can still test our maps |
| 15:16.26 | peterpants | dont need to get on b.net for that |
| 15:16.27 | Cilution | of course maaaaaybe blizzard will be noobs like Adobe |
| 15:16.31 | Grum | one to initiate up+down, one to be counting during the up+down, one to trigger the periodic damage |
| 15:16.37 | Cilution | and all you have to do to get around expired license is set your computer clock back a year |
| 15:16.45 | peterpants | lool |
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| 15:17.23 | Falco252 | Where is weapon + please |
| 15:17.33 | arepakiller | hey how can you make a unit to switch between 2 attacks ? |
| 15:17.47 | zeerti | arepakiller there are a few ways |
| 15:17.54 | peterpants | Falco252: Data Editor - > The Unit |
| 15:17.58 | Dinoo | trigger the periodic damage ? |
| 15:18.16 | HBHades | Upgrade: Zergling - Obverse Incubation... |
| 15:18.20 | HBHades | ^huh? |
| 15:18.24 | arepakiller | thx i will look at it |
| 15:18.37 | Grum | Dinoo: yeah, lava should just damage a bit every not and then, not insta kill a unit :) |
| 15:18.44 | Grum | *now and then |
| 15:18.50 | ANdyBear22 | How do I start a trigger when a variable hits .."2" |
| 15:19.00 | HBHades | If then |
| 15:19.01 | Tokoji | run trigger ? |
| 15:19.05 | Megalon | HBHades: probably a ditched upgrade |
| 15:19.15 | Grum | indeed. just do runtrigger when you set it to 2 ;P |
| 15:19.26 | Xan | anyone up for some 2v2? (europe) |
| 15:19.29 | Megalon | it makes zergling eggs contain 4 lings, but double the 'build' time of the egg |
| 15:19.57 | ANdyBear22 | But, I right now.. I have a trigger that adds +1 when I hit the "k" Button. and when the number hits 2, I want a trigger to start |
| 15:20.09 | ANdyBear22 | and then in another trigger, when the number hits 3, I want it to start. |
| 15:20.09 | Dinoo | well not really grum |
| 15:20.29 | Dinoo | instead of making a 0.2s repeating tiemr and doing damages everytime it expire, use a "Every 0.2s of gametime" event |
| 15:20.46 | Tokoji | event : k is hitted, action : if number == 2 then run trigger |
| 15:20.46 | Tokoji | etc |
| 15:20.55 | ANdyBear22 | ahh okay.. |
| 15:20.56 | Xan | Arthas- |
| 15:21.07 | Cyb3r | does someone know how I can attach a player to a camera? |
| 15:21.10 | ANdyBear22 | So, you need an event for it to start? |
| 15:21.12 | Cyb3r | region sucks ./: |
| 15:21.17 | Grum | Dinoo: you can do that? |
| 15:21.28 | ANdyBear22 | unless you tell that trigger to run |
| 15:21.33 | Tokoji | not really, you can check when u modify your number |
| 15:21.34 | Dinoo | yeah, that's how my version of the map is working right now |
| 15:21.39 | Dinoo | sendind it to you |
| 15:21.47 | ANdyBear22 | How do you check? |
| 15:22.08 | Tokoji | in actions, you will have number++, you need to use if then else after |
| 15:22.18 | Tokoji | if number == 2 then .. else if number == 3 then ... |
| 15:22.28 | ANdyBear22 | ah okay. |
| 15:22.33 | ANdyBear22 | Thanks for the info. |
| 15:22.44 | Grum | whoha Dinoo; that actually worked haha |
| 15:22.50 | Dinoo | xD |
| 15:23.01 | Grum | i'm not connected to irc directly .. so rather surprised :D |
| 15:24.36 | Falco252 | peterpants: can you screen please, I don't find it |
| 15:24.39 | Grum | HOLY FUCK Dinoo .. that is one big if/else |
| 15:24.54 | Grum | k i'll have a ponder on compressing this info |
| 15:25.00 | Grum | can you get 'current gametime' ? |
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| 15:25.39 | Dinoo | I think so |
| 15:25.43 | Dinoo | Game - Game Play Time must do that |
| 15:26.14 | Dinoo | yeah, went overboard on the If/Then/Else :p |
| 15:28.57 | Grum | just a bit hehehe |
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| 15:30.15 | HBHades | any ideas how i could detect if a barracks is attached to an add-on (i.e. tech-lab)? |
| 15:30.48 | zeerti | you could make it so that a techlab is neutral when your not attached to it |
| 15:30.53 | zeerti | and yours when you land next to it |
| 15:31.04 | Dinoo | Grum : I don't know if "Elapsed Time" for a Expired Timer is 0 or duration, but if its 0 you don't even need the Ifs |
| 15:31.12 | HyBReD | Or just detect when one is built |
| 15:31.45 | HBHades | problem is im spawning units from the barracks...marines to be exact |
| 15:32.03 | HBHades | when the tech lab is purchased it will now only spawn reapers |
| 15:32.04 | Grum | k time to make it nice |
| 15:32.21 | HBHades | thats what i want... |
| 15:32.28 | Hati | muahha |
| 15:32.32 | HBHades | just cant detect an attached addon |
| 15:32.55 | peterpants | is there anyway to make a unit do extra damage to another specific type of unit |
| 15:33.12 | HBHades | you could use armored attribute |
| 15:33.23 | HBHades | maybe a custom attribute |
| 15:33.24 | Lazbro | <3 editor :D |
| 15:33.25 | peterpants | well no, other than those |
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| 15:33.31 | zeerti | peterpants: yes. |
| 15:33.35 | peterpants | i couldn't figure out how to make custom attirbutes |
| 15:33.40 | zeerti | oh no clue |
| 15:33.57 | peterpants | you can make behavior: attributes, but they're not the same as the armored/massive/etc. |
| 15:34.16 | peterpants | how is the on attack trigger |
| 15:34.17 | Ellerymsg | Hey, I'm working on trying to get the starmap to display, can anyone help me? is there a command to call it that I'm just not seeing? |
| 15:34.18 | peterpants | does it work like wc3? |
| 15:34.24 | peterpants | or did t hey fix it |
| 15:35.36 | peterpants | ill test it out |
| 15:35.37 | arepakiller | im looking the campaing pictures and lol the bat is awesome |
| 15:35.50 | arepakiller | i thought they were going to take that out |
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| 15:37.20 | Dinoo | Ellerymsg : I think it's not in the editor |
| 15:37.32 | Ellerymsg | :/ that is the conclusion I was coming to as well |
| 15:37.41 | zeerti | bat? |
| 15:37.49 | Ellerymsg | I guess they don't want us to release campaignes better than theirs until after the full release :D |
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| 15:37.59 | Dinoo | lol |
| 15:38.07 | zeerti | yeah... they don't have a lot of crap in the editor. |
| 15:38.09 | Bifuu | Morning all |
| 15:38.13 | zeerti | O/ |
| 15:38.36 | HBHades | zeerti: really? this editor is extensive if you ask me |
| 15:38.45 | Ellerymsg | I know :/ I'm probably just doing something wrong (again) but when I tried to enable story mode, it just errored out :D |
| 15:38.54 | HBHades | sure its in beta and has problems...but damn |
| 15:39.13 | peterpants | editor itself is fine |
| 15:39.21 | peterpants | but they didnt release a lot of content but that's ok |
| 15:39.38 | HBHades | well mp content is all you have |
| 15:39.45 | AFKper | probably some stuff is even more buggy than what we've got so far, and they couldn't release it for testing yet |
| 15:39.48 | peterpants | i wish they would have at least released all the tilesets |
| 15:39.49 | Grum | Dinoo: did you do the calculations with 'Aritmethic Real' ? :) |
| 15:40.18 | Grum | but then spelled right! |
| 15:40.39 | Dinoo | Yeah, Aritmetic Real |
| 15:40.46 | Dinoo | "spelled right" ? |
| 15:40.54 | Grum | Arithmetic ;D |
| 15:41.01 | Dinoo | oh ^^ |
| 15:41.04 | AFKper | I think a lot of it might be because story mode isn't actually completely finished |
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| 15:41.10 | AFKper | it's not in the beta, at least |
| 15:41.18 | Grum | k i think i'll get this working with a single timer, a gametime loop and 4 variables |
| 15:41.29 | AgentPaper | no story mode models, for example |
| 15:41.30 | HBHades | lol why would single player be in the beta |
| 15:41.33 | HBHades | ? |
| 15:41.40 | Dinoo | that's few :p |
| 15:41.43 | HBHades | you get the full game before launch? |
| 15:41.48 | HBHades | whats left to buy? |
| 15:41.50 | AgentPaper | that's what I'm saying |
| 15:41.53 | Grum | 3 variables even |
| 15:42.01 | AgentPaper | we can't access a lot of the single player stuff in the editor |
| 15:42.06 | Grum | lavaMoveTime, lavaCycleTime, lavaLastDirection |
| 15:42.07 | AgentPaper | because it doesn't make sense to have it in the beta |
| 15:42.34 | Dinoo | ^^ |
| 15:42.39 | AgentPaper | like the goliath and other old models |
| 15:42.40 | Grum | oh and LavaTickTime :( |
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| 15:43.03 | HBHades | <3 lurker....i want to see it in campaign |
| 15:43.13 | HBHades | hopes for lurkers |
| 15:43.17 | zeerti | HBH they still have all the lurker noises |
| 15:43.23 | zeerti | and the attack |
| 15:43.25 | zeerti | and the actor |
| 15:43.26 | HBHades | ohwhat? |
| 15:43.28 | zeerti | but no model |
| 15:43.31 | AgentPaper | they have old terran units, I wouldn't be surprised |
| 15:43.33 | zeerti | THERES NO FUCKING MODEL |
| 15:43.35 | Dinoo | LavaTickTime ? a 0.2s timer which apply the damages everytime it expires ? |
| 15:43.43 | AgentPaper | at worst we have to wait for the zerg expy |
| 15:43.48 | Dinoo | use "every 0.2s of gametime" instead :p |
| 15:43.50 | HBHades | yah |
| 15:43.56 | Grum | Dinoo: no, but a every 'lavaticktime' of gametime :p |
| 15:44.07 | Ingela^ | yay i just pwned the new TD :P |
| 15:44.12 | Ingela^ | high templar wave though is insane |
| 15:44.13 | Dinoo | oh yeah ^^ |
| 15:44.14 | Ingela^ | but it said victory |
| 15:44.28 | zeerti | HBH: the lurker stuff is still in the editor, just not the lurker model. |
| 15:44.36 | HBHades | yah |
| 15:44.43 | zeerti | or the building model |
| 15:44.50 | Dinoo | It's a good thing to make everything a variable, you can make your own lava easily then :p |
| 15:44.57 | HBHades | it should be something to fool around with at least |
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| 15:45.11 | Grum | Dinoo: my idea exactly |
| 15:45.25 | AgentPaper | anyways, can someone help me with making custom units/models? |
| 15:45.26 | Lazbro | 'Can the editor...?' 'Yes, if you corner it like a rat in a trap' |
| 15:45.32 | zeerti | damn I really wish I could remote connect to my comp at home D: |
| 15:45.35 | AgentPaper | I'm trying to make a Siege Tank version of the uberlisk |
| 15:45.40 | Grum | huuumz can you have a ternairy statement in an assignment? :( |
| 15:45.44 | AgentPaper | with machine guns all over it |
| 15:45.52 | zeerti | AgentPaper if you can get it to work for the love of god please tell me how you did it. |
| 15:45.52 | HBHades | Lazbro: Lol! true |
| 15:45.59 | AgentPaper | really I just want to get used to the system, because it's weird |
| 15:46.00 | AgentPaper | ah |
| 15:46.14 | AgentPaper | well, I'm getting a bit closer, at least |
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| 15:46.29 | TheRipper | Morning mappers. |
| 15:46.39 | AgentPaper | mornin |
| 15:46.41 | fnosse | anyone know if there's a basic trigger tutorial somewhere? |
| 15:46.58 | TheRipper | yeah, sec. |
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| 15:47.08 | fnosse | cool |
| 15:47.27 | TheRipper | I just saw it XD whered it go.. |
| 15:47.29 | Dinoo | Grum : like 2+3*4 ? |
| 15:47.46 | Grum | no .. like ( x > 0 ? 1 : -1) |
| 15:47.50 | TheRipper | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401514672&sid=5000 |
| 15:47.53 | TheRipper | There you go. |
| 15:48.01 | fnosse | thanks, much appreciated :) |
| 15:48.16 | TheRipper | yup |
| 15:48.20 | TheRipper | thats not yet completed |
| 15:48.32 | TheRipper | if you want to get more in depth on physically making triggers for things just ask me |
| 15:48.40 | TheRipper | i know triggers fairly well. |
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| 15:48.56 | fnosse | great |
| 15:49.06 | Grum | TheRipper: you shouldn't have said that, i want the height of a water-plane inside a variable in a trigger |
| 15:49.06 | SprkFade | Has anyone figured out how to create custom UI elements through the BossBar? I tried pulling from the library but the bar doesn't spawn for some reason. |
| 15:49.07 | fnosse | but, I've never used any blizzard editor |
| 15:49.14 | fnosse | so I need the real basics hehe |
| 15:49.25 | Lazbro | I'm still wondering why it is that an archon emits a beam with its weapon, there are no links between the archon/its weapon and the beam |
| 15:49.26 | Lazbro | :/ |
| 15:49.33 | Grum | fnosse: neither did it before 2 days ago and its not *too* hard |
| 15:49.39 | TheRipper | Grum: I will figure it out! |
| 15:49.48 | Grum | TheRipper =D |
| 15:49.52 | TheRipper | :P |
| 15:50.11 | TheRipper | actually. that might not be to difficult... was that a serious request? |
| 15:50.25 | Grum | yes very |
| 15:50.28 | TheRipper | okay |
| 15:50.28 | Dinoo | you foul, try it and you will see the difficulty ^^ |
| 15:50.45 | Wolf | How would i get a custom CC to make a custom SCV? |
| 15:51.04 | zeerti | you'd have to go in and change what it can build. |
| 15:51.21 | zeerti | did you have the custom CC follow the pattern of a regular CC? |
| 15:51.42 | TheRipper | Grum: ugh. I hate how water works in this compared to wc3 |
| 15:51.51 | AgentPaper | and cliffs |
| 15:51.55 | AgentPaper | water is better actually |
| 15:51.56 | zeerti | Ripper: I love how water works now! |
| 15:52.00 | Wolf | I basically duplicated the CC, and chose differant actors for it etc |
| 15:52.00 | AgentPaper | except that you can't set it's height |
| 15:52.07 | TheRipper | Water is so much prettier... just |
| 15:52.08 | peterpants | you can set it's height |
| 15:52.12 | AgentPaper | other than that, it's awesome |
| 15:52.13 | TheRipper | Its very limited. |
| 15:52.14 | Grum | AgentPaper: you cant set the height from galaxyscript atm |
| 15:52.14 | peterpants | if you modify it's properties |
| 15:52.15 | AgentPaper | oh? |
| 15:52.23 | AgentPaper | ah |
| 15:52.26 | Grum | its nto limited that much o.O |
| 15:52.30 | AgentPaper | that sucks |
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| 15:52.37 | TheRipper | Yeah, you can change water height between 2 pre determined points via triggers |
| 15:52.39 | peterpants | setting it via script would be awesome |
| 15:52.40 | AgentPaper | but seriously only 5 cliff levels? |
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| 15:52.46 | Grum | 3 cliff levels |
| 15:52.47 | barter | what about checking if a unit is in the water? |
| 15:52.48 | Wolf | Ive tried modifying the SCV build link, but it just makes a brand new object rather than the object i want it to use |
| 15:52.50 | TheRipper | and you are maxed at 1 water level through the whole map |
| 15:52.54 | peterpants | 3 cliff levels ya is pretty dumb |
| 15:52.57 | Grum | no you are not TheRipper |
| 15:52.58 | zeerti | Ripper: No your not |
| 15:52.58 | barter | cause normally units can just walk on lava |
| 15:53.03 | Aegis_Runestone | Halp! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/415-problems-creating-a-burrowed-unit <- I need help with this BADLY PLEASE READ |
| 15:53.03 | TheRipper | really? |
| 15:53.03 | Grum | you can use multiple different waterbodies |
| 15:53.04 | peterpants | should be 20+ |
| 15:53.08 | TheRipper | did someone find out how? |
| 15:53.08 | zeerti | your not |
| 15:53.11 | zeerti | yes |
| 15:53.11 | Lazbro | [17:52]<TheRipper>Yeah, you can change water height between 2 pre determined points via triggers --- that's how the lava map did it right? |
| 15:53.13 | zeerti | :) |
| 15:53.13 | TheRipper | yesterday we couldnt figure it out. |
| 15:53.17 | AgentPaper | pretty sure it's 5, actually |
| 15:53.20 | TheRipper | lazbro: yes |
| 15:53.23 | AgentPaper | though one of them is unwalkable |
| 15:53.24 | Lazbro | [17:52]<barter>cause normally units can just walk on lava --- and take damage? |
| 15:53.24 | Grum | Lazbro: yes that is how i also did it |
| 15:53.25 | Lazbro | :) |
| 15:53.34 | Grum | Lazbro: fixing the damage as we speak |
| 15:53.38 | Barter | hmm last time I tried they didnt take dmg |
| 15:53.43 | Grum | they dont take damage |
| 15:54.12 | TheRipper | not by default, right? |
| 15:54.19 | Grum | not at all |
| 15:54.22 | TheRipper | anyways, how do you set multiple water levels? |
| 15:54.25 | Grum | you cannto detect units being in water/lava |
| 15:54.31 | AgentPaper | can we get to the model editor yet? |
| 15:55.15 | Aegis_Runestone | Halp! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/415-problems-creating-a-burrowed-unit <- I need help with this BADLY PLEASE READ |
| 15:55.18 | Dinoo | TheRipper : In the water tool, edit Water and you can create water states at different heights |
| 15:55.28 | TheRipper | okay. thanks |
| 15:55.48 | zeerti | what I found strange was the pathing stuff. |
| 15:56.00 | AgentPaper | Aegis_Runestone: You'll get more help if you tell us at least a summary of the problem instead of just a link |
| 15:56.03 | Grum | TheRipper: please find out how i can know the height of a certain waterstate if you will :( |
| 15:56.09 | Aegis_Runestone | .... |
| 15:56.21 | Aegis_Runestone | If I gave you a summary it would be about 50 lines long |
| 15:56.29 | zeerti | rofl |
| 15:56.31 | Aegis_Runestone | Hence why I'm giving you a link |
| 15:56.38 | zeerti | whats the issue with it? |
| 15:56.45 | zeerti | can't make it unburrow can't make it attack...? |
| 15:56.51 | Aegis_Runestone | I'm trying to create burrowed unit |
| 15:57.00 | zeerti | so that its always burrowed? |
| 15:57.04 | Aegis_Runestone | No |
| 15:57.12 | Aegis_Runestone | So it can burrow into the proper unit |
| 15:57.20 | Falco252 | How to set 2 attacks for one char? |
| 15:57.20 | zeerti | so it changes when it burrows? |
| 15:57.26 | Aegis_Runestone | Yes |
| 15:57.48 | Aegis_Runestone | What happens is you NEED a burrowed version of your new unit, otherwise, it'll burrow and become the old unit. |
| 15:57.48 | zeerti | have you tried copying say a hydralisk burrowed and changed that? |
| 15:57.52 | Aegis_Runestone | Yes |
| 15:57.58 | Hati | i lost my own game :( |
| 15:57.59 | Hati | nerf |
| 15:58.01 | Aegis_Runestone | I said that in the link there to the thread. |
| 15:58.02 | zeerti | lol hati |
| 15:58.03 | TheRipper | Grum: through triggers you cant, not dynamically at least |
| 15:58.17 | TheRipper | Grum: however you can set pre determined heights and shift between them |
| 15:58.17 | zeerti | lol I don't have to read a thread :) |
| 15:58.24 | Aegis_Runestone | -_- |
| 15:58.25 | Bifuu | *pins editor to task bar* ahhhh simple life |
| 15:58.31 | Grum | TheRipper: yeah that i know .. not good enough |
| 15:58.44 | Grum | i dont want to 'set' the heights, just get the information |
| 15:58.47 | Grum | so i dont have to duplicate data |
| 15:58.49 | TheRipper | Oh i see. |
| 15:58.57 | TheRipper | Hmm |
| 15:59.05 | Grum | this is just fial: lavaMoveDistance = (10.25 - 4.0) <Real (Constant)> |
| 15:59.17 | TheRipper | I wonder if we can hook a point/point var to water |
| 15:59.23 | TheRipper | and just read from the height of the point |
| 15:59.28 | Grum | those should be BelShir|State2.height - BelShir|[Default].height |
| 15:59.36 | Grum | orso |
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| 16:01.42 | Hati | i i suck at OTS |
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| 16:04.04 | AgentPaper | Ok, so first of all, how do I link actors and units and models? |
| 16:04.31 | Dustin | Unit > Actors > select your actor |
| 16:04.41 | Deadeye | So, just to get this straight. There's no way at all to play with other people...yet? |
| 16:04.45 | peterpants | just like in russia, you dont like units to actors actor link you |
| 16:04.51 | Dustin | Right Deadeye |
| 16:04.58 | Deadeye | well thats lame >< |
| 16:05.11 | peterpants | what are u talkin about u can play with computer(easy) |
| 16:05.13 | AgentPaper | not seeing actor as a field in units |
| 16:05.24 | peterpants | go to actor agentpaper |
| 16:05.27 | Deadeye | how do you add the computer anyway? |
| 16:05.27 | peterpants | and then link the actor, to the unit |
| 16:05.57 | qwebirc95176 | how do you import other models? |
| 16:05.57 | AgentPaper | aha, found it |
| 16:06.03 | AgentPaper | it in the field on the top |
| 16:06.40 | AgentPaper | thanks peterpants |
| 16:07.31 | peterpants | agentpaper you might want to make a copy of the actor cuz from what i've seen uc an only link 1 actor to 1 unit |
| 16:07.42 | peterpants | and if you make a copy of an actor you have to go back and link a model to the actor :/ |
| 16:07.44 | Deadeye | How do I add a computer? Just so it's not me wandering around the map alone |
| 16:07.52 | AgentPaper | yeah, I copied the actor, unit, and model |
| 16:08.07 | peterpants | deadeye: just put some units on there and then go to player properties under map info and set one of them to computer |
| 16:08.16 | Deadeye | thank you |
| 16:08.20 | AgentPaper | that's why I needed to know how to change the link |
| 16:08.24 | AgentPaper | it was linking to the old unit |
| 16:08.34 | peterpants | yea it's very backwards coming from wc3 |
| 16:10.03 | AgentPaper | heh, it's crazy coming from WC3 |
| 16:10.12 | AgentPaper | hopefully they'll make a better interface for this |
| 16:10.16 | AgentPaper | or at least a modder will |
| 16:10.24 | AgentPaper | with drag and drop weapons and suchlike |
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| 16:11.10 | TheRipper | So whats the deal with the sphere models for certain objects |
| 16:11.19 | AgentPaper | test sphere |
| 16:11.23 | AgentPaper | like the checker cube |
| 16:11.40 | TheRipper | ah |
| 16:12.10 | TheRipper | even though a good 40% of objects/effects have that model, and keep that model ingame |
| 16:12.13 | TheRipper | ? |
| 16:15.14 | Repo | 10operation-terran-shield: 03xhatix * r2 OperationTerranShield.SC2Map: initial release of OTS, incredible mode imho only |
| 16:16.13 | Dinoo | re |
| 16:16.18 | Dinoo | So Grum, any breaktrough ? ^^ |
| 16:16.23 | Barter | where do I set which model the building uses while its under construction? |
| 16:16.34 | Grum | Dinoo: fighting with the stupid editor to make my math work |
| 16:16.48 | HyBReD | i havent had any math problems yet |
| 16:16.53 | HyBReD | with the editor |
| 16:16.54 | HBHades | you show it whos boss grum |
| 16:17.10 | Cilution | math is for nerds, nerd |
| 16:17.16 | Cilution | oh wait.. I'm in a map maker IRC channel |
| 16:17.19 | Grum | its kinda buggy |
| 16:17.27 | Grum | sometimes i cannot select the timer O.O |
| 16:18.53 | Hati | Grum |
| 16:18.58 | Hati | is the timer global? |
| 16:19.04 | Hati | or stored in a global var |
| 16:19.13 | Grum | yes |
| 16:19.21 | Hati | hmm that's weird |
| 16:19.24 | Grum | i know :D |
| 16:19.57 | Dinoo | lol |
| 16:20.05 | HyBReD | cant select it? |
| 16:20.19 | HyBReD | try dumping it to a variable first |
| 16:20.22 | Grum | in the 'variables' section |
| 16:20.25 | Grum | yeah doing that now |
| 16:20.35 | PixelWarrior | Anyone know what "damage point" is in weapons? |
| 16:20.50 | HyBReD | where it hits? |
| 16:20.51 | Grum | and now it works |
| 16:20.54 | HyBReD | tada |
| 16:20.54 | HyBReD | :) |
| 16:20.56 | Grum | with the temp variable |
| 16:21.00 | Grum | but it makes no sense |
| 16:21.11 | Grum | humz it doesnt work |
| 16:21.14 | Grum | i still cant select it .. wtf :D |
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| 16:21.29 | Hati | are you sure you selected the right action ? |
| 16:21.36 | Grum | yes |
| 16:21.41 | Hati | restart GE |
| 16:21.44 | Grum | wtf :D |
| 16:21.47 | Grum | mm ok |
| 16:22.02 | Grum | i cant access a local variable that i just created and filled |
| 16:22.04 | Grum | epic :D |
| 16:22.19 | Grum | but now i can access the global ones ... arrrgghhh |
| 16:22.23 | Megalon | to local for you! |
| 16:22.39 | Grum | starting editor ;( |
| 16:22.54 | monoframe | BITCHES DON'T KNOW BOUT MY LOCAL VARIABLEZ |
| 16:23.23 | Grum | lol still doesnt work |
| 16:23.26 | Grum | piece of shit |
| 16:23.30 | Chevron | anybody know why when i "blind" zealot view range to 0.5 and give it to computer he run sometwhere just after i start game? |
| 16:23.48 | AgentPaper | he's freakin out |
| 16:23.52 | AgentPaper | 'cause he's blind |
| 16:23.56 | Chevron | but why? |
| 16:24.02 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.03 | HyBReD | I'm blind, not deaf. |
| 16:24.03 | monoframe | "I'm blind I'm blind *waves hands and runs*" |
| 16:24.06 | Chevron | that`s not in aI i think |
| 16:24.16 | Grum | that should be: (((Clamp (Elapsed time of lavaMoveTimer) between 0.0 and lavaMoveTime) / lavaMoveTime) * lavaMoveDistance) <Real (Constant)> |
| 16:24.23 | Grum | and the bold thing referencing the global timer :( |
| 16:24.26 | monoframe | Chervon, why not assign the Zealot to Neutral unit> |
| 16:24.27 | monoframe | ? |
| 16:24.37 | Chevron | emmm he need to attack |
| 16:24.46 | Chevron | i`m making an escape map |
| 16:24.47 | HyBReD | gv_ = global variable |
| 16:24.49 | HyBReD | you cant just remove it |
| 16:24.50 | monoframe | So set hit to aggressive stance P: |
| 16:24.50 | HyBReD | ?? |
| 16:24.51 | HyBReD | wtf |
| 16:24.53 | monoframe | Or wait |
| 16:25.04 | monoframe | Chevron, better yet - give it to Hostile player |
| 16:25.05 | Grum | HyBReD: no no i did that myself, the first thing i pasted is custom |
| 16:25.08 | monoframe | Player 15 |
| 16:25.20 | HyBReD | and the second is GUI? |
| 16:25.48 | HyBReD | not sure what youre trying to point out is all |
| 16:26.21 | Lazbro | oook the game crashes when I test map >_< |
| 16:26.40 | Chevron | lol i know why he runs |
| 16:26.51 | Chevron | becouse i did`t removed the scpaer of weapon yet |
| 16:27.08 | Chevron | and he shoots |
| 16:27.13 | Grum | HyBReD: no the second one is what it SHOULD be but i do not get the option to select 'lavaMoveTimer' as a variable from the popup when i click on the 'Timer' value of the Elapsed time call |
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| 16:28.22 | HyBReD | then debug it |
| 16:28.27 | HyBReD | each part of that line |
| 16:28.31 | HyBReD | and figure out where its tripping up |
| 16:28.33 | Grum | its completely valid |
| 16:28.35 | zeerti | You all know about the auto save function right? ;D |
| 16:28.40 | HyBReD | thats why its called debug |
| 16:28.48 | Grum | it .. is .. completely .. valid |
| 16:28.52 | Grum | there is nothing to debug about it |
| 16:28.57 | HyBReD | lol |
| 16:29.09 | HyBReD | TEST EACH PART OF THE LINE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ALL WORKING PROPERLY |
| 16:29.13 | PixelWarrior | Where do I find the "2" for zealot psi blade attacks |
| 16:29.16 | Grum | THEY ARE YOU FUCKTART >< |
| 16:29.18 | HyBReD | caps for obvious |
| 16:29.28 | HyBReD | well clearly they arent |
| 16:29.30 | PixelWarrior | i found one in weapons, but that was just for "display" |
| 16:29.42 | Grum | for some reason for a function call in a function call it cannot access a global variable |
| 16:29.44 | Grum | and that makes no sense |
| 16:29.51 | Repo | 10operation-terran-shield: 03xhatix * r3 branch/: initial release of OTS, incredible mode imho only |
| 16:29.51 | Grum | its fucked up, editor bug, i cant fix it |
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| 16:30.17 | mikelat | hey, anyone around |
| 16:30.23 | monoframe | Grum, go any complain at forums |
| 16:30.25 | monoframe | I mean |
| 16:30.26 | monoframe | BRAG |
| 16:30.28 | Grum | i have the same problem now, in a trigger, i cannot do 'set variable' on a local variable |
| 16:30.30 | zeerti | whats up mmike? |
| 16:30.31 | monoframe | and* |
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| 16:30.38 | Cyber_ | may someone PLEASE help me :/ just one last thing: I've got camera001, how I can attach it to a unit of player(1)? |
| 16:30.53 | supmeow | hi |
| 16:30.56 | mikelat | just a quick question, you know how the launch nuke button has a number beside it, how would I get rid of it, I've been looking everywhere |
| 16:30.58 | Lazbro | um |
| 16:30.59 | mikelat | seems to be tied to the ability |
| 16:31.15 | Lazbro | apply camera for player |
| 16:31.18 | HyBReD | Grum it sounds like your editor is fubar |
| 16:31.21 | supmeow | Cyber_: i believe there is a trigger action under camera that does that |
| 16:31.36 | Grum | HyBReD: it works for most things, just for some reason not for this and it makes no sense |
| 16:31.50 | monoframe | Cyber, check SC2Mapster beforehand, as many people are unto processing tutorials for such things |
| 16:32.05 | Grum | but feel free to try it; i made a 'Real' setting it to 0.0 and then in the Action do an: if true then Set Variable .... |
| 16:32.07 | Grum | and that doesnt work |
| 16:32.10 | HyBReD | have you tried setting the timer to a global everytime it updates and grabbing it that way |
| 16:32.16 | Grum | oh meh |
| 16:32.20 | Grum | i found why i cannto change the local value |
| 16:32.22 | Cyber_ | thx for you help, I see, I need an English version -.- German editor sucks, that's the reason why I can't find easy stuff like that |
| 16:32.26 | Grum | for some reason the local one is a constant! |
| 16:32.26 | Cyber_ | r |
| 16:33.01 | Grum | but that still doesnt explain why the global timer is not accesable |
| 16:33.53 | HyBReD | never really found the use for a constant variable |
| 16:33.58 | mikelat | anyone know anything about removing the little counter showing how many nukes you have beside the use nuke button for ghosts? |
| 16:34.00 | Fisker | http://catalog.xna.com/en-US/CatalogImage.aspx?imgId=b9abd771-0250-4b39-be95-7583e5eadd85&ds=1&ceType=2&imgType=6 <-nice game |
| 16:35.53 | Grum | lol i think hte editor is confused |
| 16:36.10 | Grum | i just created a local variable Timer lavaMoveTimer and i could assign it the global lavaMoveTimer |
| 16:36.11 | Dinoo | Hybred, if you make a trigger using X tiems the same value, and then realise it's the wrong value and you need to change it, you only have to change the variable, instead of manually changing it X times in the trigger |
| 16:36.23 | Grum | and then all of the sudden in the other function i could select both the locla and the global one O.O |
| 16:36.32 | Dinoo | lol wtf xD |
| 16:36.42 | Grum | well problem solved lol :p |
| 16:37.18 | HyBReD | Dinoo im confused |
| 16:37.25 | HyBReD | thats what a variable is |
| 16:37.28 | HyBReD | not a constant |
| 16:37.30 | HyBReD | O.O |
| 16:37.39 | Grum | HyBReD: its just to make sure you dont accidently change it |
| 16:37.39 | Dinoo | yeah its the variable |
| 16:37.40 | Grum | nothing more :) |
| 16:37.49 | Dinoo | but it also happens to be always the same :p |
| 16:37.55 | HyBReD | yes, but like i said |
| 16:37.59 | HyBReD | i never understood the point |
| 16:38.00 | TheRipper | blegh, i probably missed it, so sorry for the repition, but. |
| 16:38.02 | HyBReD | i dont have downs |
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| 16:38.07 | TheRipper | can you inl hve 3 basic cliff levels? |
| 16:38.10 | TheRipper | only have* |
| 16:38.13 | Grum | yes |
| 16:38.15 | HyBReD | you can have 4 |
| 16:38.20 | Grum | 3 functional ones |
| 16:38.25 | Dinoo | also, if its a constant, maybe it takes less room in the memor y |
| 16:38.30 | HyBReD | the 4th is functional |
| 16:38.39 | Grum | you cannot put any doodads/units on level 0 |
| 16:38.48 | HyBReD | have you seen my underground demo? |
| 16:38.49 | Grum | well you can but by forcing the x/y position |
| 16:38.56 | Grum | the editor itself doesnt allow you to move them there |
| 16:39.09 | HyBReD | granted the unit cant move |
| 16:39.10 | Grum | (by dragging) |
| 16:39.15 | HyBReD | because theres giant doodads on top of it |
| 16:39.17 | Dinoo | anyone found uot how to make empty space (showing outer space), as in some melee maps ? |
| 16:39.18 | HyBReD | that i need to remove collision on |
| 16:39.20 | HyBReD | but still |
| 16:39.22 | HyBReD | it works |
| 16:39.29 | TheRipper | can i get a link to your demo? |
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| 16:40.06 | HyBReD | http://www.pgn-guild.com/random/TechDemoV1.SC2Map |
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| 16:40.45 | TheRipper | thanks |
| 16:40.47 | KeyboardScat | good morning |
| 16:41.11 | fnosse | morning |
| 16:41.18 | PatchOne | hey people got a question.. i wanna create upgrades for an unit, and wanna be able to buy the upgrade like 200 times so it upgrades the unit 200 times... anyone able to help here? got the upgrade button, able to research it infinite often but it just doesnt upgrades the unit |
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| 16:43.20 | Saladom | it's time to sleep. |
| 16:43.43 | Saladom | hmm. |
| 16:45.14 | Furyhunter | Hey guys, did anyone find a solution to the "Unable to load map" issue? |
| 16:45.25 | zeerti | what do you mean fury? |
| 16:46.31 | Furyhunter | I notice that it's complaining that I don't have enough start points for all players |
| 16:46.44 | zeerti | so then make enough? haha |
| 16:47.06 | Furyhunter | Disabling Hostile and Neutral did not help |
| 16:47.30 | Grum | Dinoo: for some reason my gametime trigger just works once? O.o |
| 16:48.02 | zeerti | fury have you tried adding in more? |
| 16:48.49 | Armentia | Mep |
| 16:48.54 | Barter | <Dinoo> anyone found uot how to make empty space (showing outer space), as in some melee maps ? - the Braxis Alpha texture set is the one with space |
| 16:48.59 | Furyhunter | No, but it's a custom map and I've told both players to use specific start points |
| 16:49.10 | Grum | Dinoo: oh humz i need a Periodic event .. fialed there :D |
| 16:49.33 | PixelWarrior | Barter : make really deep holes and use planets |
| 16:50.06 | zeerti | double click the starting points and set them specific to a player instead of just there. |
| 16:50.13 | zeerti | I had that issue with one of my maps |
| 16:50.26 | Galois-evariste | Furyhunter: Maybe they want you to give a Neutral player a Starting location... because when you think about it, didn't we always have Neutral Players in the original Starcraft? |
| 16:50.26 | Dinoo | Yeah, it's called periodic event ^^ |
| 16:51.00 | Galois-evariste | that's my idea |
| 16:51.12 | Furyhunter | Nope, didn't help Galois |
| 16:51.17 | zeerti | galois: Neutral players don't need start points |
| 16:51.24 | zeerti | Fury: did you try what I said? |
| 16:51.30 | Galois-evariste | Good to know -- at least now we know |
| 16:51.42 | zeerti | hostile shouldn't need it either. |
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| 16:52.44 | Furyhunter | zeerti, I've set points for each player in the Player Properties, |
| 16:52.53 | zeerti | still no luck? |
| 16:52.56 | Acolyte1 | hm, is there a way I can press a button |
| 16:53.02 | Furyhunter | Nope |
| 16:53.05 | Acolyte1 | to have my ghost fire straight ahead |
| 16:53.08 | zeerti | yeah just reach down and press a button haha |
| 16:53.11 | PixelWarrior | RAWR balancing AoS = pain |
| 16:53.13 | Acolyte1 | haha |
| 16:53.17 | Acolyte1 | i mean like, press A |
| 16:53.19 | zeerti | Acolyte there is |
| 16:53.20 | Acolyte1 | and shoot |
| 16:53.29 | Acolyte1 | would you like to share it with me? |
| 16:53.29 | Acolyte1 | :D |
| 16:53.37 | zeerti | sure :D |
| 16:53.48 | zeerti | There should be a trigger for key input, dont recall what it is called. |
| 16:53.57 | Armentia | Had two windows open apparently |
| 16:54.53 | Grum | hahaha! its working Dinoo =D |
| 16:55.10 | Acolyte1 | thanks. |
| 16:57.54 | PixelWarrior | where to change number of attacks? |
| 16:58.09 | zeerti | Pixel that's a question I've been asking all morning |
| 16:58.28 | PixelWarrior | no progress? |
| 16:58.37 | zeerti | not from what I've seen lol. |
| 16:58.51 | KeyboardScat | Hey guys, how do you provide vision of an area without having any units there? for example, I want all players in my map to see the "jail" |
| 16:58.52 | zeerti | I wish I could just look around from here at work |
| 16:58.52 | PixelWarrior | coz thers "display number of attacks" |
| 16:58.53 | Furyhunter | Oooh, okay |
| 16:58.53 | zeerti | sadly I can't |
| 16:58.59 | Furyhunter | You can't have Campaign as a dependency right now. |
| 16:59.00 | Furyhunter | Duh, lol |
| 16:59.03 | PixelWarrior | but thats just for show |
| 16:59.12 | PixelWarrior | doesnt affect anything |
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| 17:00.42 | inSync | anyone know what the setting for the "building size" is? say 2x2 ect |
| 17:00.56 | KeyboardScat | its in the footprints section i think |
| 17:01.02 | KeyboardScat | (though if im wrong, im sorry) |
| 17:01.05 | inSync | yep |
| 17:01.05 | inSync | ta |
| 17:01.07 | inSync | got it |
| 17:01.07 | inSync | xD |
| 17:01.32 | Megalon | PixelWarrior: you can look how it is down with e.g. Reapers |
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| 17:01.59 | Megalon | Data > Weapons > Reaper - P38 'Scythe' Gauss Pistol |
| 17:01.59 | zeerti | megalon: What? |
| 17:02.06 | zeerti | oh nvm |
| 17:02.14 | Megalon | the pistol has a Period Count: 2 |
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| 17:02.24 | PixelWarrior | Thats for Display |
| 17:02.25 | Megalon | and as Period effect the Pistol Damage effect |
| 17:02.27 | Megalon | oh |
| 17:02.39 | PixelWarrior | doesnt change its actual attack |
| 17:02.55 | PixelWarrior | so ya... tis gay |
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| 17:03.30 | PixelWarrior | maybe arthas will know =D |
| 17:03.37 | TriGuN | whats up with the legacy converter? |
| 17:03.40 | Saladom | I guess it is in the effect tab. |
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| 17:03.59 | Grum | http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.v2.SC2Map <-- dynamicly damaging moving lava! |
| 17:04.03 | Grum | /flex |
| 17:04.07 | Apes | Legacy converter doesn't seem to apply any textures for me |
| 17:04.13 | Saladom | Effect tab -> ReaperBurst -> PeriodCount |
| 17:04.15 | TriGuN | same |
| 17:04.17 | Grum | and very little setup time! |
| 17:04.20 | Armentia | Whaaaat |
| 17:04.23 | Dinoo | <ha, you're done simplificating it ? ^^ |
| 17:04.26 | Barter | nice grum |
| 17:04.27 | Saladom | there is number '2'. |
| 17:04.27 | Grum | yeah :D |
| 17:04.39 | Armentia | I is still patching =[ |
| 17:04.43 | Grum | well not that much more simple |
| 17:04.47 | Grum | but at least it works better |
| 17:04.54 | Grum | now to add some sounds/shakes/effects =D |
| 17:05.11 | Megalon | PixelWarrior: well, my reavers shoot 3 times |
| 17:05.11 | Grum | i need to add some more config stuff i think |
| 17:05.15 | Megalon | when I increase that value |
| 17:05.18 | TriGuN | hrm does anyone know why the repeat trigger wont work? |
| 17:05.33 | PixelWarrior | really? |
| 17:05.40 | zeerti | i haven't tested it |
| 17:05.50 | Hati | Repeat trigger ? |
| 17:05.51 | fnosse | hmm, I want to make some units, say "uncommandable", but when I set which unit it should be, I can only select one(a special unit with special coordinates) , I'm missing something, right? |
| 17:05.54 | TriGuN | yeah |
| 17:05.56 | Hati | wtf is a Repeat trigger? |
| 17:06.11 | Hati | you mean Repeat Action ? |
| 17:06.11 | Dinoo | clamp ? :o |
| 17:06.16 | KeyboardScat | hey guys, say i got a trigger that reveals a region for a player. it says: Create a visibility revealer for player 1 at Jail. Is it possible to change the variable in "player 1" so that it does this for players 1-6 or do i have to create 6 triggers for this? |
| 17:06.33 | Hati | yes you can do it Keyboard |
| 17:06.35 | TriGuN | like repeat a trigger for til condition is met? |
| 17:06.44 | Hati | While loop in the trigger ? |
| 17:06.48 | TriGuN | yeah |
| 17:06.51 | Hati | works |
| 17:06.54 | Hati | have bunch of them :x |
| 17:07.01 | KeyboardScat | lol |
| 17:07.02 | KeyboardScat | k |
| 17:07.13 | TriGuN | hrm |
| 17:07.17 | peterpants | keyboardscat do a for each integer 1-6 |
| 17:07.25 | TriGuN | trying to make a bound |
| 17:07.30 | peterpants | then do create visibility for player (integer) |
| 17:07.33 | Grum | Dinoo =D |
| 17:07.40 | Megalon | PixelWarrior: http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=reaper3attacks5ree.jpg |
| 17:07.52 | Grum | clamp made me just use 1 timer instead of 2 =) |
| 17:07.52 | KeyboardScat | not sure what you mean peterpants |
| 17:07.53 | Megalon | the green value is the only thing I changed |
| 17:07.57 | Galois-evariste | Has anyone seen the Event that is the equivalent for the COMMAND condition in the original editor? |
| 17:08.17 | Dustin | Command condition? |
| 17:08.24 | Galois-evariste | i.e. "Player X commands at most 0 any unit." translates to what here |
| 17:08.34 | Dustin | Just do |
| 17:08.35 | Galois-evariste | I'm not seeing anything like that in these Events |
| 17:08.54 | Dustin | Player X brings 0 units to Playable Map Area |
| 17:09.02 | Galois-evariste | gotcha - that's logically equivalent |
| 17:09.03 | Galois-evariste | thanks man |
| 17:09.08 | Dustin | np! |
| 17:10.24 | PixelWarrior | yep |
| 17:10.27 | PixelWarrior | that did the job |
| 17:10.29 | PixelWarrior | period count |
| 17:10.34 | peterpants | KeyboardScat: http://img153.imageshack.us/i/forr.jpg/ |
| 17:10.42 | PixelWarrior | attacks per period |
| 17:10.43 | Dinoo | nice ^^ |
| 17:10.50 | Dinoo | (grum) |
| 17:11.15 | Grum | peterpants: you need to define a variable |
| 17:11.21 | Grum | to store the number in |
| 17:11.39 | Megalon | then have fun, I only looked whats the difference between units with 1x attack and those with multiple shots per attack |
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| 17:11.58 | Grum | so: add a local integer variable and select that one at 'for each integer Variable from 1..' |
| 17:12.13 | inSync | Whats the "option" to make a unit attack in a 360 degree's? |
| 17:12.23 | peterpants | <shrug> it wasn't mine i was just showing him how to do it |
| 17:13.53 | Chevron | anyone know how to make unit patrol waypoints via triggers? |
| 17:14.14 | Dinoo | inSync : use Area+ on the damage effect and make it origin on the attacker ? |
| 17:14.15 | inSync | Chevron: Issue Order, trigger. |
| 17:14.26 | Mischgasm | Just do unit enters region, go to region |
| 17:14.28 | Dinoo | brb eating |
| 17:14.30 | Mischgasm | and make the oppisite |
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| 17:14.37 | Mischgasm | and it will go back and forth |
| 17:15.45 | Aegis_Runestone | Biffu! |
| 17:15.56 | Aegis_Runestone | I need your help with making a new unit, weapon wise |
| 17:16.10 | Aegis_Runestone | Err.. |
| 17:16.10 | Bifuu | sup |
| 17:16.13 | Aegis_Runestone | Okay, I followed your tutorial. Except I made a Hydra Hero. The problem is with the weapons, ALL THE HYDRALISKS do the same amount of damage now (40). I don't get it. I think it's because the effect "Hydra U" was changed, and all Hydralisks use that. How do I get a workable weapon just for my HydraHero? |
| 17:16.20 | Barter | how do I rotate doodads while placing them? |
| 17:16.47 | zeerti | you'll need to make a new Hydra U |
| 17:16.48 | Bifuu | What tutorial did you follow? the hero one? |
| 17:16.49 | zeerti | essentially |
| 17:16.50 | SiegeCo | feeeek trying to buy muse tickets atm... and ticketmaster = fail :( |
| 17:17.17 | Aegis_Runestone | The "Creating your first unit" |
| 17:17.32 | Bifuu | But what you need to do is create a new Weapon and a new Effect Damage |
| 17:17.33 | Aegis_Runestone | How do I make a new Hydra U and connect it to the 'Psionic Spines' |
| 17:17.44 | Aegis_Runestone | I did create a new weapon and effect |
| 17:17.45 | Aegis_Runestone | :/ |
| 17:18.07 | zeerti | you'll have to go into Psionic Spines and set it to work with the new effect |
| 17:18.21 | Aegis_Runestone | ? |
| 17:18.26 | Repo | 10operation-terran-shield: 03xhatix * r4 / (2 files in 2 directories): removed status bars on head |
| 17:18.29 | Repo | made marines a bit larger (50%) |
| 17:18.30 | Grum | http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.v3.SC2Map <-- even better Dinoo :D |
| 17:18.39 | Grum | now really anyone can use lava =D |
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| 17:19.25 | monoframe | WorkInProgress: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8931/capture1qof.png |
| 17:19.32 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 17:19.48 | Bifuu | Well Hydras have a missle based attack so its a bit more complex i would assume |
| 17:19.51 | inSync | Grum: Would you know how to make a unit fire 360 (like a turrent) I've made a supply depot fire maruader shells. but it only fires in 1 direction when the units directly infront of it. |
| 17:20.00 | Bifuu | let me look at it |
| 17:20.05 | Tehwildcard | Hey everyone |
| 17:20.12 | Grum | inSync: i havent done anything with units ;( i really have no idea :( |
| 17:20.17 | Grum | but isnt there anything locking the unit from turning? |
| 17:20.23 | inSync | Bifuu: would u know? |
| 17:20.24 | TriGuN | hrm how can i create a unit and kill that unit and any units in its reigon? |
| 17:20.28 | Aegis_Runestone | okay... shall I send you the map? |
| 17:20.38 | PixelWarrior | insync : try changing the arc value? |
| 17:20.48 | inSync | PixelWarrior: to what? |
| 17:21.02 | PixelWarrior | something more wide |
| 17:21.06 | Aegis_Runestone | The Hero's name is "Kheldrun" and the weapon is "Psionic Spines," the effect is "Psionic Spines" and yes, Hydralisks are more complicated. |
| 17:21.14 | PixelWarrior | im not sure, but i played around with a colussus |
| 17:21.25 | PixelWarrior | and it seemed to have a wider laser sweep |
| 17:21.32 | Grum | TriGuN: do you know the region? |
| 17:22.44 | inSync | PixelWarrior: + Grum : Changing "ARC" value in the "WEAPON" to "360" made it fire in all directions (for ur knowledge in future) |
| 17:22.46 | Aegis_Runestone | Bifuu? Are you there? |
| 17:22.57 | Grum | inSync: nice find :) |
| 17:22.59 | Cilution | that lava test map is pretty cool |
| 17:23.04 | PixelWarrior | awesome =D |
| 17:23.19 | Grum | Cilution: now look in the editor, its really trivial to set it up :) |
| 17:23.31 | Cilution | I just wish the lava acted more fluidlike when raising |
| 17:23.41 | Grum | i put everything in variables and you just have to make, 2 states of water, area which damage should be in and setup some values |
| 17:23.42 | DarkIce | Insync, you think that might help with a turret giving me an error "cannot turn towards target" ? |
| 17:23.52 | Grum | Cilution: well yeah that is a bit hard hehehe |
| 17:23.53 | Arthas-laptop | PixelWarrior whaaat |
| 17:24.03 | Arthas-laptop | maybe i will do what :p |
| 17:24.04 | Grum | it doesnt really respect 'volume' :D |
| 17:24.16 | Apes | Is there a function to issue a move command to a unit? |
| 17:24.27 | peterpants | someone posetd an inventory tutorial somewhere didn't they? anyone got a link |
| 17:24.29 | PixelWarrior | dw we found it |
| 17:24.33 | PixelWarrior | to get multiple attacks |
| 17:24.40 | PixelWarrior | u need to have 2 affects |
| 17:24.44 | Bifuu | Aegis_Runestone: lol i dont need your map im looking at the base Hydra sorry |
| 17:24.49 | Arthas-laptop | ah ok |
| 17:25.02 | Cilution | yeah I imagine that's far more difficult than just having a lava "tile" move along the y axis :p |
| 17:25.05 | Bifuu | Aegis_Runestone: ill see if i can get it working and ill send you the example |
| 17:25.30 | PixelWarrior | weapon triggers effect1 (multiplier) then triggers effect2 (damage) |
| 17:25.43 | PixelWarrior | eg zealots, reapers, colossi |
| 17:25.50 | Cilution | I guess the best way around it is to ensure the terrain is cooperative with how it raises and lava isn't appearing out of no where without a direct connection |
| 17:25.51 | Aegis_Runestone | I just queried you the map |
| 17:25.55 | Aegis_Runestone | Thank you. |
| 17:26.37 | HeroicPrinny | is anyone here having trouble with veterancy levels working correctly? in other words, gaining experience and leveling up |
| 17:26.51 | Grum | Cilution: yeah |
| 17:27.06 | Grum | or just make multiple 'lava pits' of which lava rises |
| 17:27.14 | Grum | or cracks in the earth |
| 17:27.28 | Grum | k time for some shakin and effects :p |
| 17:27.35 | Cilution | oh god |
| 17:27.39 | Cilution | seizure shake |
| 17:27.46 | Cilution | i hope you can tone it done a bit from whatever the default is lol |
| 17:27.49 | HeroicPrinny | i can sort of get it to work, but sometimes when my hero levels it completely breaks and stops moving |
| 17:28.05 | inSync | DarkIce: Yes, sorry for not replying. |
| 17:28.26 | DarkIce | I made a turret in a mod file, how do you import that into a map file? |
| 17:28.38 | Cilution | Grum, you should spawn a wrecked vehicle doodad when the thor dies ;p |
| 17:28.48 | Cilution | burnt smoldering metal |
| 17:29.33 | Cilution | and skeletons for SCV's ;p |
| 17:29.54 | Grum | hehe |
| 17:30.16 | PixelWarrior | grum link me ur lava map |
| 17:30.17 | PixelWarrior | = |
| 17:30.18 | PixelWarrior | =D |
| 17:30.38 | Grum | http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.v3.SC2Map |
| 17:30.52 | KeyboardScat | Has anyone figured out how to teleport a unit to a region upon creation? For example: I create an SCV from my armory (successfully made the armory be able to make units :D) and then instead of spawning the unit in front of the armory, it teleports it to a region? |
| 17:31.02 | PixelWarrior | yeah |
| 17:31.08 | PixelWarrior | use trigger |
| 17:31.32 | PixelWarrior | and wen unit enter region, change its location to a point |
| 17:31.33 | Grum | hoooohly fuck default settings of shake is WTFBBQ :P |
| 17:31.43 | PixelWarrior | not sure about region, but u can do points |
| 17:31.52 | zeerti | "When unit x is created, (Thats the condition) teleport last created unit to region x (Thats the action) |
| 17:32.01 | Cilution | sounds like someone is setting the stage for a tower wars spawning method ;p |
| 17:32.13 | KeyboardScat | haha nope its for cat 'n mouse |
| 17:32.19 | JamesObscura | Sorry, can anyone tell me how to set a players resources? |
| 17:32.21 | zeerti | keyboard did what I say make sense |
| 17:32.22 | Cilution | I told ya Grum ;p |
| 17:32.24 | Cilution | seizure shake |
| 17:32.33 | Grum | region has support to get 'randompointinregion' |
| 17:32.33 | KeyboardScat | yes it did zeerti im attempting it right now :P |
| 17:32.35 | Cilution | you know you can do it inside the editor too? type /shake into the console |
| 17:32.44 | peterpants | anyone have an inventory tutorial |
| 17:32.47 | zeerti | james just make a trigger that when the game starts it gives each player x minerals/gas |
| 17:32.59 | zeerti | sc2mapster.com peterpants |
| 17:33.08 | peterpants | yea, but where at there |
| 17:33.09 | Cilution | just shake rather |
| 17:33.11 | Cilution | not /shake |
| 17:33.12 | zeerti | there is a inventory thing there :P |
| 17:33.31 | peterpants | they need a tutorial section |
| 17:33.40 | zeerti | agreed |
| 17:33.50 | Cilution | shake 0.25 5.00 0.00 2.0 |
| 17:33.51 | Cilution | in console |
| 17:33.52 | Cilution | etc |
| 17:33.53 | Cilution | play with it |
| 17:33.55 | peterpants | like i think, is it in the wiki, is it in the forum is it under assets, is it on the news, etcx. |
| 17:34.19 | Barter | there is a tutorials section on the forums now |
| 17:34.25 | peterpants | search for the win |
| 17:34.37 | peterpants | they should put a link to it on the main page |
| 17:34.48 | peterpants | a lot of people are looking for tutorials would be a good place for it |
| 17:35.08 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.10 | Grum | that seems okish :) |
| 17:36.06 | DarkIce | Found what I needed to import settings from a mod file, under file menu you can set dependancies, won't let me change the directory though |
| 17:36.16 | Cilution | shake 0.15 2.00 2.00 5.0 |
| 17:36.19 | Cilution | I like those settings grum |
| 17:36.27 | Grum | how to test that in the editor again? |
| 17:36.37 | Cilution | just open the console and copy paste that into it |
| 17:36.44 | Saladom | Grum, is your lava map protected? I can't see variables' name. |
| 17:36.59 | Cilution | alt + ` for console |
| 17:37.01 | Grum | euuh protected? |
| 17:37.02 | Cilution | or in menu somewhere |
| 17:37.03 | Grum | how do you do that? :D |
| 17:37.14 | Grum | Cilution: its too long, it should be *really* short |
| 17:37.18 | Grum | else it will fuck up targetting etc |
| 17:37.22 | Cilution | length is the last variable |
| 17:37.23 | Galois-evariste | Okay I give up -- where is the Units window? |
| 17:37.31 | Acolyte1 | how can I stop viewing these blue regions in galaxy editor? |
| 17:37.39 | Cilution | makes it super easy to test lots of values ;p |
| 17:37.59 | Grum | Acolyte1: shift-R |
| 17:38.01 | Saladom | all variables' name are void. |
| 17:38.09 | Acolyte1 | thanks |
| 17:38.13 | Grum | Saladom: humz wtf |
| 17:38.15 | Saladom | I use editor in en. |
| 17:38.21 | Galois-evariste | [Question] I give up trying to find the Units window. How do I change unit attributes? |
| 17:38.23 | Grum | yeah i am enGB too |
| 17:38.38 | Cilution | wtf Grum, why is there a lillipad on your lava |
| 17:38.46 | Grum | Cilution: ssst ;) |
| 17:38.49 | Grum | its not actually lava hehe ;D |
| 17:38.50 | Galois-evariste | one of the water tiles involves a lillypad |
| 17:39.02 | Grum | i know i should change it ;D |
| 17:39.05 | Galois-evariste | I think its one of the Korhal tiles |
| 17:39.20 | Grum | BelShir :p |
| 17:39.21 | zeerti | grum you dun fucked it up |
| 17:39.26 | zeerti | your map is now invalid |
| 17:39.33 | Saladom | is it different enGB and enUS? |
| 17:39.40 | Grum | Saladom: no idea, i am running enGB |
| 17:39.44 | Grum | so it shuold just work o.O |
| 17:39.51 | Saladom | o.O |
| 17:39.59 | Bifuu | Galois-evariste: Thats all in the Data Editor |
| 17:40.04 | Bifuu | Galois-evariste: Press F7 |
| 17:40.12 | Xapti | anyone changed lava height on a map? |
| 17:40.15 | Galois-evariste | thanks bifuu |
| 17:40.16 | Saladom | I'm korean, but I use in enUS. |
| 17:40.23 | Cilution | data editor is so... intimidating >_< |
| 17:40.29 | Grum | http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.v3.SC2Map <-- yes Xapti |
| 17:40.39 | Apes | Starcraft 2 keeps saying that it is unable to open my map, what could be the cause? |
| 17:40.42 | PixelWarrior | cil: its ok, only look at what u need to look at |
| 17:40.50 | Cilution | dependancies probably |
| 17:41.00 | Cilution | are you using campaign or story mode or something? |
| 17:41.31 | Apes | Let me check if that fixes it |
| 17:42.00 | Cilution | can only use Liberty and LibertyMulti I think |
| 17:42.00 | Grum | Saladom: http://sc2.grum.nl/editor.png .. that is my view O.o |
| 17:42.01 | Cilution | for now |
| 17:42.02 | Fisker | anyone in EU i can be friends with? :( |
| 17:42.19 | Saladom | nice. |
| 17:42.20 | Apes | Cilution: That fixed it |
| 17:42.32 | monoframe | Sure Fisker..but before that give me beta invite :3 |
| 17:42.46 | Saladom | on my view, all name is void.. |
| 17:43.00 | Grum | Saladom: wtf :) |
| 17:43.35 | monoframe | Blizzard should really make some menu adjustments with those who use 1024x768 as now you can't see some buttons D: |
| 17:43.38 | Cilution | man I really really need to get a double monitor setup |
| 17:43.41 | Saladom | but your lava map is running well. |
| 17:44.04 | Grum | who is running that low of a resolution |
| 17:44.23 | Grum | is anyone else having the same problems as Saladom on with my map? that you cannot see the names of the variables? |
| 17:44.26 | Cilution | that's almost cell phone resolution these days ;p |
| 17:44.28 | Grum | Saladom; you are in the trigger editor right? |
| 17:44.35 | Saladom | yes. |
| 17:44.58 | Grum | what ist he name of the beam those super flying terran units do? |
| 17:45.15 | Cilution | beam? |
| 17:45.20 | Megalon | voidray? |
| 17:45.27 | Saladom | battlecruiser? |
| 17:45.29 | Cilution | the only terran beam i can think of is |
| 17:45.31 | Cilution | point defense drone |
| 17:45.39 | DarkIce | seeker missle targeting beam ? |
| 17:45.40 | Grum | a Yamato Cannon! :D |
| 17:45.52 | PixelWarrior | Hadoken! |
| 17:46.02 | Grum | humz how can you just show an effect and nto have the damage of it ... |
| 17:46.04 | Grum | aiaiai :P |
| 17:46.12 | Cilution | I think it'd be cool to make a battlecruiser that can switch between offense and defense, and when its defense, its like 4 point defense drones zapping every projectile out of the sky ;p |
| 17:46.16 | Cilution | maybe I should try that |
| 17:46.26 | zeerti | set the damage to 0? |
| 17:46.37 | Sholdak | grum: you can display a model |
| 17:46.39 | Grum | zeerti: hmm i guess i should clone it in the data editor then |
| 17:46.43 | Sholdak | independently |
| 17:46.47 | Megalon | copy yamato, but not the damage effect? :o |
| 17:46.48 | Grum | Sholdak: will it also animate? O.o and how to do that |
| 17:46.51 | DarkIce | that would be cool, deploymeny like a siege tank for the BC |
| 17:46.54 | Sholdak | yup |
| 17:47.01 | Sholdak | it's like CreateEffectModel |
| 17:47.03 | Sholdak | something like that |
| 17:47.15 | Sholdak | search for model |
| 17:47.19 | Grum | in the trigger thingie? :D |
| 17:47.21 | Sholdak | yea |
| 17:47.34 | Grum | i see 'Create Effect On ... From ...' |
| 17:48.08 | Grum | 'create model at point' or 'create effect on unit (from unit)' are the only ones who look sortof sane |
| 17:48.19 | Sholdak | yea model at point |
| 17:48.22 | Sholdak | is the one i tried |
| 17:48.26 | Grum | so then i need an actor model |
| 17:48.43 | Grum | oh i think i can jsut select one without causing damage :) |
| 17:49.18 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.24 | Grum | that should do it! |
| 17:50.18 | Cilution | I don't really understand Actors |
| 17:50.19 | Grum | lol it did .. nothing =DDD |
| 17:50.29 | PixelWarrior | actors are just models |
| 17:50.40 | zeerti | I hate actors fucking dumb lol |
| 17:50.47 | Cilution | I guess what I don't get is the differentiation between unit and actor |
| 17:50.49 | Sholdak | you might need to go to the actor |
| 17:50.49 | Alevice_Work | Dont diss the actors |
| 17:50.52 | Sholdak | and add an event |
| 17:50.54 | Sholdak | on creation |
| 17:50.57 | Sholdak | something like that |
| 17:51.00 | Alevice_Work | tnhy are the heart of the graphicl dispaly |
| 17:51.11 | Grum | Sholdak: mmm ok that is something i havent done yet :P |
| 17:51.19 | Grum | data editor i presume? |
| 17:51.22 | Sholdak | yea |
| 17:51.35 | Sholdak | it depends on the actor, most already have that |
| 17:51.41 | Sholdak | but i havent looked at impact stuff |
| 17:51.43 | Alevice_Work | I am so wiritng an article that describes actors and its importance |
| 17:52.01 | Cilution | link it when you're ready, I'll proof it for you ;p |
| 17:52.16 | Alevice_Work | heh |
| 17:52.20 | Sholdak | it looks like you cant show flash videos in dialogs :( |
| 17:52.28 | Alevice_Work | 2 hours left until I get back home |
| 17:52.33 | Sholdak | gives a runtime script error about permissions |
| 17:52.39 | Cilution | if only Sholdak, the porn industry would dominate the SC2 marketplace |
| 17:52.40 | Alevice_Work | so dont hold your breath |
| 17:52.45 | Alevice_Work | hahaha |
| 17:53.02 | Dinoo | <Grum> Actor - Create actor model Battlecruiser Yamato Attack Impact at point (Position of (Picked unit)) |
| 17:53.03 | TriGuN | apes have you patched? |
| 17:53.06 | Dinoo | what are you making ? |
| 17:53.28 | Grum | Dinoo: explosion effect when lava hits something |
| 17:53.33 | Mischgasm | Dinoo, that would just create the equivelent of a doodad/unit wouldn't it? |
| 17:53.34 | Dinoo | oh ^^ |
| 17:54.13 | Grum | no idea it didnt work ;D |
| 17:54.22 | Dinoo | it didnt do anything ? |
| 17:54.35 | Grum | indeed |
| 17:54.38 | Xan | anyone want to play 2v2 (europe)? |
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| 17:55.34 | Dinoo | lemme try |
| 17:55.50 | TriGuN | cant you just create and kill a flying unit over the one you kill when it dies? |
| 17:56.05 | Cilution | 23000 on bnet right now, getting up there |
| 17:56.18 | TriGuN | or is thatwhat your trying to do? |
| 17:56.20 | Grum | holy shit the data editor is a piece of shit :P |
| 17:56.27 | Grum | that is so completely unusable beyond believe |
| 17:56.29 | Cilution | its annoying as hell |
| 17:56.30 | Sholdak | yes :( |
| 17:56.41 | Grum | you cannto see any relations whatsoever |
| 17:56.42 | Cilution | it feels like you create the same thing 3 times to get it to work |
| 17:57.24 | Grum | stuff isnt linked together |
| 17:57.24 | Apes | Is there a way to change the facing a unit has in the map editor? |
| 17:57.24 | Sholdak | it is |
| 17:57.24 | Hati | double click |
| 17:57.24 | Dustin | CTRL hold it |
| 17:57.24 | Dustin | And click |
| 17:57.24 | Hati | or enter |
| 17:57.25 | Grum | Apes: select it and ctrl-drag/click |
| 17:57.25 | Dustin | ^ |
| 17:57.25 | Apes | Thank you |
| 17:57.25 | Dinoo | strange grum |
| 17:57.25 | Cilution | hey guys is there a way to rotate a unit in the editor?? |
| 17:57.26 | Dinoo | I don't have Yamato Attack Impact in actorsl ist T_T |
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| 17:57.28 | zlefin | the data editor is most poor indeed |
| 17:57.34 | Sholdak | grum: the relations are in object explorer |
| 17:57.46 | zlefin | and not documented enough to make proper use of |
| 17:57.49 | Tehwildcard | Cilution just double click it |
| 17:57.49 | Gralamin | Now that I'm awake, I guess I should get back to making my Lunar Lander game. |
| 17:57.50 | Sholdak | the window below the main thing |
| 17:57.52 | Hati | Someone has found out how to get Unit current life with triggers ? |
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| 17:57.56 | Xapti | wtf. I thought this was just a bug that everyone had with the editor |
| 17:57.58 | SirAd | hi |
| 17:58.01 | SirAd | wow |
| 17:58.04 | Sholdak | yes Hati, there's a function |
| 17:58.05 | Xapti | i can't click "modify link" on abilities |
| 17:58.05 | SirAd | so many people here |
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| 17:58.09 | Cilution | I know Teh, I was pulling the classic ask the same question after 20 responses to it trick |
| 17:58.09 | Hati | hmm |
| 17:58.09 | Sholdak | unitgetproperty |
| 17:58.12 | Dustin | anyone find out how to hide unit selection hovering and or drag selection? |
| 17:58.12 | Hati | oh ok |
| 17:58.15 | Tehwildcard | Oh |
| 17:58.18 | Grum | which object explorer exactly? :D |
| 17:58.22 | Sholdak | you just cant see it under actions |
| 17:58.24 | Xapti | nothing happenens whenever I try to select MODIFY LINK in the editor |
| 17:58.30 | Sholdak | since its not an action |
| 17:59.10 | Xapti | *modify LINK |
| 17:59.12 | Grum | Sholdak: you mean 'overview manager'? if not what did you mean, i cant find an object explorer |
| 17:59.17 | Xapti | modify value not modify link |
| 17:59.19 | Sholdak | its in data editor |
| 17:59.23 | Cilution | Does anyone actually use SC2's voice chat by the way? seems too quiet |
| 17:59.37 | zeerti | I can't get it to work cilution |
| 17:59.37 | Sholdak | view -> show object explorer |
| 17:59.39 | Grum | the thing in the left bottom? |
| 17:59.39 | Sholdak | that window |
| 17:59.42 | Sholdak | yea |
| 17:59.49 | SirAd | yeah, Cilution, I tried it today and didn't really work out |
| 17:59.49 | Sholdak | if you select a unit |
| 17:59.56 | Saladom | Grum, Did you edit your core file of SC2? |
| 17:59.56 | Sholdak | it shows all the related entities |
| 18:00.02 | TriGuN | dustin to drag select its space |
| 18:00.02 | SirAd | me and my friends just started to use skype instead |
| 18:00.04 | Grum | no i didnt edit it; should y? |
| 18:00.08 | Grum | and yeah it shows some stuff |
| 18:00.11 | Saladom | umm. |
| 18:00.20 | Grum | but seriously, what on earth do you need to create 'something' =D |
| 18:00.41 | Sholdak | creating something sucks, just duplicate stuff |
| 18:00.44 | Gralamin | Anyone know how to make a unit have integer perfect rotation? (EG: If Its facing 90, and I order it to rotate 10.0 degrees, it always ends up facing 100) |
| 18:00.56 | Saladom | before I open your map, I can see a message as 'Core : file not found'. |
| 18:00.57 | Vailreth | Hello, Does any one know how to assign actors to effects? |
| 18:00.58 | Sholdak | if you duplicate an object, it'll ask you what related entities you want to duplicate |
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| 18:01.24 | Grum | Sholdak: ok, i'd like to see the effect first, how can i do that? prolly using previewer but how to find the model it uses? |
| 18:01.25 | Sholdak | so really the only reason to create stuff from scratch is when that type has no examples (like inventory) |
| 18:01.39 | Sholdak | you have to find the actor for it |
| 18:02.05 | Dinoo | Grum I know what your problem is |
| 18:02.07 | Grum | i have that one |
| 18:02.07 | Sholdak | so go to the ability for example |
| 18:02.17 | Sholdak | and it'll have a linked effect |
| 18:02.19 | Vailreth | saddly i am needing to create a weapon from scratch i lukcy have most of it created but getting the actor for the effect and getting the effect together is my problem. |
| 18:02.20 | Dinoo | you need to animate the YamatoMissileImpatch |
| 18:02.23 | Sholdak | the effect will prob have a linked behavior |
| 18:02.26 | Dinoo | first frame it nothing so it makes sense yuo don't see anything |
| 18:02.35 | Sholdak | and there'll be some actor that is related to those |
| 18:02.38 | Grum | yeah we guessed that but now 'how' :p |
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| 18:02.53 | Dinoo | "Play Animation for last cerated actor" |
| 18:03.00 | Dinoo | Play Death Animation actually |
| 18:03.04 | Sholdak | usually the actor is named the same as the effect |
| 18:03.05 | Grum | oh |
| 18:03.23 | Dinoo | trying |
| 18:03.57 | Vailreth | yes normally so i have duplicated the needed actors and effects .. i just cant make them connect. |
| 18:04.06 | qwebirc43743 | does anyone know how to remove the requirement for the ghost's nuke? |
| 18:04.09 | Dinoo | Works perfectly :) |
| 18:04.12 | Sholdak | under the actor, there's an "Events" array |
| 18:04.19 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.22 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.24 | Sholdak | and the events array is what links actors to their animations |
| 18:06.08 | Grum | Dinoo: that doesnt work here for some reason |
| 18:06.21 | Grum | Sholdak: mmm lets see |
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| 18:09.10 | Dustin | http://www.filedropper.com/topdownfighters_1 |
| 18:09.14 | Dustin | New version! |
| 18:09.16 | Dustin | :D |
| 18:09.42 | PixelWarrior | anyone know how to shut down the "our allies are under attack trigger?" |
| 18:10.04 | Dinoo | <Grum> Dinoo: that doesnt work here for some reason << ?? |
| 18:10.13 | Dinoo | You sure yuo used the Death Animation ? |
| 18:10.17 | zeerti | you'd have to change the game itsself for that haha |
| 18:10.29 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.46 | Dinoo | I got a shitload of explosions going on the Thor |
| 18:11.56 | Barter | dustin: link broken I think |
| 18:12.00 | Fisker | anyone got a link to the uberlisk movie? |
| 18:12.10 | Dustin | works for me |
| 18:12.14 | zeerti | yeah 1 second fisker |
| 18:12.17 | Grum | haha nice Dustin |
| 18:12.22 | Dustin | hehe |
| 18:12.25 | Grum | but please fix the jerkyness of the movement :D |
| 18:12.33 | Dustin | ya thats next :P |
| 18:12.36 | Grum | =D |
| 18:12.38 | Dustin | I need to add diagnol movement to |
| 18:12.44 | Grum | also aim seems 'off' as well |
| 18:12.51 | Grum | you often simply shoot eons over a mob |
| 18:12.58 | Dustin | Ya |
| 18:13.03 | Grum | Dinoo: for some reason it simply doesnt work here and i dont get why =) |
| 18:13.04 | Dustin | Need to code a proper projectile system |
| 18:13.08 | Dustin | but I hate GUI |
| 18:13.20 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.21 | Dustin | So i just modded a baneling and lowered the acqusition range |
| 18:13.31 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.31 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:13.35 | Grum | that is what i have now, should work o.O |
| 18:13.46 | nhesson | does sc2mapster have an rss feed? |
| 18:13.49 | Dinoo | Stand Death ? xD |
| 18:13.52 | zeerti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7H-7f4g6Rw |
| 18:13.55 | Dustin | Im gonna addd in collision later today |
| 18:13.58 | Grum | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh |
| 18:14.02 | Dinoo | haha |
| 18:14.09 | Fisker | yeah already found that one zeerti |
| 18:14.12 | Fisker | either way found one by Hati |
| 18:14.14 | GardenOfAiur | sc2mapster got an rss feed? |
| 18:14.18 | Hati | ? |
| 18:14.19 | Grum | i didnt realize you could have 2 values there haha |
| 18:14.23 | Fisker | your uberlisk |
| 18:14.30 | Hati | hmm? |
| 18:14.36 | Fisker | wanted to see if your uberlisk was capable of multiple target selection |
| 18:14.41 | Fisker | which it doesn't seem capable of |
| 18:14.46 | Hati | no he wasn't |
| 18:14.58 | Grum | aiaiai that might be a bit big Dinoo =D |
| 18:15.02 | Grum | how the hell to scale that down |
| 18:15.12 | Dinoo | ouch, scale that down, u mad ? xD |
| 18:15.32 | Grum | based on the size of the model :P |
| 18:15.45 | Grum | its ok for the thor |
| 18:15.50 | Grum | but for the workers its just WTFBBQ |
| 18:17.04 | Dinoo | "Minimum scale for the model size. If it differs from Maximum scale, scale will be determined randomly each time the model is created" << wtf, strange feature ^^ |
| 18:17.06 | Hati | their inbuild objectives thingy is cool :P |
| 18:17.09 | Fisker | Dustin does your missiles do collision detection or something? |
| 18:17.23 | Dustin | Not yet |
| 18:17.25 | Grum | afk a min food |
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| 18:17.31 | Dustin | Adding that in today |
| 18:17.35 | Ignorance | How do I reflect half of a melee map? |
| 18:18.07 | monoframe | IS NOT POSSIBLE |
| 18:18.11 | GardenOfAiur | any sc2mapster admins here? lookin for an rss feed link |
| 18:18.35 | Gralamin | Anyone figure out how to make a leaderboard show up when the UI is hidden? |
| 18:18.46 | Dinoo | btw Grum you might want to attach actor to unit before playing the animation, so that it follows it |
| 18:18.59 | Ignorance | seriously now? That seems like the most useful feature they could've ever put in. :[ |
| 18:19.09 | monoframe | Garden, I don't think they have support for RSS |
| 18:19.16 | Furyhunter | Reflected maps typically aren't that interesting design wise |
| 18:19.17 | Gralamin | Ignorance: Its possible |
| 18:19.26 | Gralamin | Just grab half of its terrain with drag click |
| 18:19.37 | monoframe | Fury, but balance wise, it's the best solution |
| 18:19.38 | Gralamin | Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V move over to where you want, and use |
| 18:19.39 | Furyhunter | You should be able to make a balanced map that isn't completely symmetrical and is still fun to play |
| 18:19.47 | Ignorance | When I drag click, it just releases if I let go. |
| 18:19.47 | monoframe | Of course, for a melee map |
| 18:19.52 | Gralamin | Alt+peroid and Alt+Comma to flip it (Numpad * can rotate it) |
| 18:19.59 | Furyhunter | Just as long as the major parts are still there |
| 18:20.02 | Furyhunter | and symmetrical |
| 18:20.04 | Dinoo | Grum, apparently you can't change the size of an actor with trigger, yuo need different sizes actors instead :( |
| 18:20.05 | Furyhunter | like expos |
| 18:20.06 | Gralamin | Ignorance: No it doesn't look carefully at your minimap |
| 18:20.26 | Ignorance | I see. |
| 18:20.30 | PixelWarrior | is it just me or theres only ONE bridge in the whole game |
| 18:21.05 | Ignorance | Is there any way to make the copy-paste into a reflect, though? |
| 18:21.12 | Ignorance | I got the copy-paste to work. |
| 18:21.28 | monoframe | Pixel, you mean the MarSara one? |
| 18:21.45 | PixelWarrior | err i think so, its human bridge |
| 18:22.01 | monoframe | With no "Pathing" just plain wires? |
| 18:22.03 | Ignorance | haha you can |
| 18:22.04 | Shubit | Hi, I'm searching for the blizzards maps. I searched already for the in C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Starcraft 2 Beta\Maps ... |
| 18:22.05 | Ignorance | it's in the edit |
| 18:22.07 | Ignorance | :) |
| 18:22.10 | Ignorance | You can reflect maps. |
| 18:22.17 | Dinoo | hu ? |
| 18:22.26 | monoframe | GOOD JOB! |
| 18:22.27 | Dinoo | they said it would never be in the editor one month ago on twitter oO |
| 18:22.51 | wacko | what would ? |
| 18:23.09 | Dinoo | reflecting maps |
| 18:24.33 | Chevron | they did |
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| 18:25.33 | Ignorance | It's easy. |
| 18:25.37 | Ignorance | just do copy paste |
| 18:25.44 | Ignorance | edit |
| 18:25.46 | Dinoo | rotate, past |
| 18:25.47 | Dinoo | ^^ |
| 18:25.49 | Ignorance | rotate 180 degrees |
| 18:25.50 | Ignorance | :) |
| 18:25.50 | Dinoo | +e |
| 18:25.58 | Ignorance | myfirstmap is complete |
| 18:26.00 | Dinoo | lol yeah strange |
| 18:26.07 | Dinoo | they probably changed their mind |
| 18:26.27 | Ignorance | Is it possible to lower all cliff levels by one? |
| 18:26.31 | Elyk | If I want a trigger to fire on a variable change, it looks like I have to have it periodically check to see what the variable is... I hope that doesn't slow the game down. |
| 18:27.12 | Fisker | man |
| 18:27.19 | Fisker | it's like Blizzard doesn't want us to localize shit |
| 18:27.30 | Fisker | I just took Dustin's map and added enGB locale |
| 18:27.45 | KeyboardScat | what kind of footprint do you use if you want something to be able to stack? |
| 18:27.47 | Ignorance | The ramp-adding mechanic is massively bugged, though. |
| 18:27.49 | Fisker | The SC2 Editor doesn't pick it up so if i make any changes to the map the locale is automatically removed |
| 18:28.29 | PixelWarrior | anyone know how to edit the resources at the top left? |
| 18:28.35 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/bastion/. Bastion. Pinworm45 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 18:28.36 | PixelWarrior | i mean right |
| 18:28.39 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/littlesurvivor/. Little survivor. Ateyth (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
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| 18:29.10 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:29.34 | DarkIce | Keyboard, you can try editng the units "stats - collide" and remove structure |
| 18:29.58 | KeyboardScat | alright hanks |
| 18:29.58 | Apes | Is anyone doing scripting by hand, or is everyone just using the GUI for scripting? |
| 18:30.00 | KeyboardScat | thanks* |
| 18:30.03 | DarkIce | or whatever object you want it to stack with |
| 18:30.10 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/bastion/. Bastion. Pinworm45 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 18:30.52 | Dustin | Fisker, did it work then? |
| 18:31.37 | TheRipper | wow |
| 18:31.43 | TheRipper | with experimenting and brainstorming |
| 18:31.47 | TheRipper | i have the most fantastic map idea |
| 18:32.09 | Slam_ | explain? :-) |
| 18:32.11 | Grum | Dinoo: meh that sucks :D |
| 18:32.13 | Galois-evariste | i'd love to hear |
| 18:32.17 | Galois-evariste | and i promise i won't rip it off |
| 18:32.20 | TheRipper | haha |
| 18:32.23 | Fisker | yeah it works Dustin |
| 18:32.27 | TheRipper | i wont go into details |
| 18:32.29 | TheRipper | but |
| 18:32.38 | Dustin | awesome |
| 18:32.45 | TheRipper | think a tower defense map, except each player is the tower |
| 18:33.04 | TheRipper | and they move around the map with a crosshair and blow up the units as they run |
| 18:33.21 | TheRipper | and the way i just coded this means you can see each players crosshair and where they are. |
| 18:33.32 | TheRipper | and im working on upgrades, like explosion radius, damage, etc |
| 18:33.37 | qwebirc21101 | anyone know how to create model? |
| 18:33.40 | TheRipper | all in an intuitive onscreen menu :D |
| 18:33.41 | Dinoo | hmmm |
| 18:34.04 | JamesObscura | Does anyone know how to disable the requirement for zerg buildings to be build on creep? Protoss was just removing a flag, but I can't find any such flag for zerg. |
| 18:34.05 | Dinoo | why when I download some maps, do I get stuff like Value18473 instead of the actual text in the GUI the mapmaker added ? |
| 18:34.09 | TheRipper | ill give you guys my demo map once im finishing this up. |
| 18:34.35 | Gralamin | Gah, always the last bugs are the hardest. |
| 18:35.47 | Elyk | Anyone know of a way to display a variable name in a comment to players? I want to tell the players where the next attack wave will come from, and the wave comes randomly from different directions. |
| 18:35.57 | Fisker | but they better fix this for retail Dustin |
| 18:36.35 | Dustin | Ya, |
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| 18:36.42 | Fisker | ooh |
| 18:36.43 | Dustin | They better fucking not keep thsi region lock aswell |
| 18:36.49 | Dustin | or ill go balistic |
| 18:36.49 | Fisker | i might have found out why the editor doesn't pick it up |
| 18:37.56 | Grum | Dinoo: lava splash stand is ok |
| 18:38.22 | TriGuN | dustin |
| 18:38.27 | Fisker | yay that did it |
| 18:38.34 | Dustin | Sup trigun |
| 18:38.35 | TriGuN | i think the region lock is just to keep the player match lat down |
| 18:38.53 | Fisker | so all you have to do is repack your map with the locales you want and then edit ComponentList.SC2Components to add the extra locales |
| 18:39.00 | TriGuN | like in sc1 playing with somone on the westcoast and im on the east there was some lat |
| 18:39.11 | Fisker | someone should write a script for that when submitting maps to SC2Mapster :P |
| 18:39.13 | Dinoo | seems small and unepic :( |
| 18:39.22 | Dustin | Ya |
| 18:39.29 | Dustin | but i want the ability to choose if I want to deal with lat |
| 18:39.35 | Grum | Dinoo: good enough |
| 18:39.36 | Dustin | And with broadband nowadays |
| 18:39.39 | Dustin | it shouldnt even matter |
| 18:39.42 | Grum | but erm its quite sucky because it remains standing there |
| 18:39.43 | Dinoo | <Elyk> Anyone know of a way to display a variable name in a comment to players? I want to tell the players where the next attack wave will come from, and the wave comes randomly from different directions. << what your variable ? |
| 18:39.47 | Grum | it doesnt go away o.O |
| 18:40.59 | enslaved | anyone know how to create new skin/model? |
| 18:41.04 | Dinoo | hu |
| 18:41.06 | Dinoo | lemme try |
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| 18:41.58 | Dinoo | oh right, strange |
| 18:42.04 | Dinoo | it loops, while the explosion one didnt :| |
| 18:42.51 | Dinoo | trying "No looping" instead of "No options" on play animation |
| 18:44.36 | Dinoo | nah, still loops |
| 18:45.11 | Galois-evariste | i am really loving this new editor. just wanted to share =) |
| 18:45.19 | Acolyte1 | it's neat |
| 18:45.24 | Acolyte1 | but it's damn hard |
| 18:45.28 | Acolyte1 | for the new people |
| 18:45.37 | Acolyte1 | esp. using the data editor |
| 18:45.47 | Talila | I'm trying to figure out how to make a Reaper jump with a use ability like Stimpack. :x |
| 18:46.13 | BossMonkey | Acolyte1: yup, but its still awesomesauce :D |
| 18:46.18 | Grum | Dinoo: mmm not sure what i can do about that ;(((( |
| 18:46.31 | zeerti | wait so make reaper jump when commanded instead of auto? |
| 18:46.37 | Talila | Yus |
| 18:46.54 | Grum | just press spacebar! (lal:() |
| 18:47.02 | Talila | I gave a reaper stimpack, and for fun, made itmake him move really fast |
| 18:47.12 | Talila | that was entertaining for a lil |
| 18:47.23 | Galois-evariste | [Question]: How do I use these "AND" conditions so that all events must be satisfied in order to do the Actions? |
| 18:47.23 | zeerti | your going to want to use blink as your base, but you'll need to figure out how to make it so that you don't teleport :P |
| 18:47.40 | Grum | Dinoo: 'using No options' -> "Non Looping' as option! |
| 18:47.46 | Talila | Ah, theres an Idea, lemme look at blink |
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| 18:48.34 | JamesObscura | Galois-evariste, you don't have to have conditions. you can just delete it. They are useful though. |
| 18:48.42 | Grum | lol that fails too Dinoo:D |
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| 18:50.58 | Dinoo | lol ^^ |
| 18:52.45 | JamesObscura | So I'm making a TD to get used to the galaxy editor... I want a building to morph into another building, do you guys recomend using the drone build ability or the morph building ability? |
| 18:53.23 | Grum | Dinoo: i think it is because the model has looping 'defaultly' on |
| 18:53.29 | Cronos | lol im doing the same thing :) seems the easyies thing to do |
| 18:53.36 | Dinoo | strange, when you look at it in the previewer it doesnt even loop |
| 18:53.40 | Cronos | and i was woundering the same thing |
| 18:54.01 | JamesObscura | Cronos, have you tried using the morph building yet? I'm having problems with it. |
| 18:54.17 | JamesObscura | My photon cannon turns into a spine crawler, but the model doesn't change. |
| 18:54.34 | JamesObscura | It shoots the spine crawer spike so it's acceptable for now I guess... |
| 18:54.36 | Cronos | not yet I just started. All i did was make a custom unit .. my builder and now making my 1st custom tower |
| 18:54.38 | Gralamin | JamesObscura: I reccommend doing whatever the Spire does to become the Greater Spire. |
| 18:54.49 | BossMonkey | JamesObscura: I was trying to do that earlier, closest I got was an exploding (and then unexploding) photon cannon that shot a sphere....was rather hilarious |
| 18:54.59 | Grum | yeah indeed |
| 18:55.06 | Grum | Dinoo: maybe i can give it a timeframe orso |
| 18:55.28 | Grum | 'Default Time' i cant do shit with that :D |
| 18:55.56 | JamesObscura | Gralamin, They all use the "morph bulding" ability. It works well, I just have to figure out how to get around the model not changing problem. |
| 18:56.05 | BossMonkey | Okay, this is annoying... I'm trying to tell some units to move to a point (works) and attack anything along the way... They are failing me :( |
| 18:56.47 | BossMonkey | I take that back...They attack me but P15 won't attack P0 :\ |
| 18:56.59 | Gralamin | Gah, there must be someway of making this damn leaderboard show. |
| 18:57.10 | JamesObscura | BossMonkey, I think P0 is neutral |
| 18:57.33 | Elyk | what player number is the hostile player? Trying to spawn units for "Hostile" |
| 18:57.37 | JamesObscura | 15 |
| 18:57.40 | BossMonkey | Elyk: 15 |
| 18:57.44 | Elyk | thank you very much |
| 18:57.55 | BossMonkey | JamesObscura: and I've changed him from neutral, they should attack eachohter. P0 attacks P15... Just not the other way around |
| 18:58.06 | JamesObscura | Weird... |
| 18:58.38 | Talila | Reaper with Blink. xD |
| 18:58.42 | Talila | I love the command card |
| 18:58.51 | Talila | Can place abilities so much easier then WC3 |
| 18:58.55 | BossMonkey | Talila: Me too! :D |
| 18:58.56 | JamesObscura | Command card is amazing for simple splices. |
| 18:59.00 | Shubit | Hi, where can I found the blizzard maps on my computer? |
| 18:59.05 | BossMonkey | Talila: I love that htey made it PAGED. omg so happy when I saw that |
| 18:59.16 | zeerti | Bossmonkey: paged? |
| 18:59.17 | Grum | Shubit: in your cache someone, search your 'c:' for *.s2ma :) |
| 18:59.19 | Talila | I saw the pages, but haven't figured how that works yet |
| 18:59.32 | BossMonkey | zeerti: The command card has 4 pages |
| 18:59.35 | Talila | But, I suppose you put a button that links to next page? |
| 18:59.36 | BossMonkey | Talila: you need to make a sub menu to access other pages |
| 18:59.44 | Elyk | yay! my game will scale enemies based on the number of players, go go math |
| 18:59.46 | BossMonkey | Talila: if you want an example go look at a builder |
| 18:59.48 | Talila | I havent looked at all the command card options yet |
| 19:00.14 | Talila | Need to lower the cooldown on blink now, and see if I can apply the reaper jump mover to it. :x |
| 19:00.48 | zeerti | Bossmonkey: what is the command card? |
| 19:01.00 | BossMonkey | zeerti: the area where abilities/what not are for units |
| 19:01.17 | Talila | Attack Move, Stop, Stimpack ect |
| 19:01.34 | BossMonkey | zeerti: and it has 4 pages, so you can add ALOT of abilities to a unit through linking hte pages together |
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| 19:01.58 | Elyk | AI question... I want the hostile enemy to attack the players and use special abilities... is there a trigger or event I need to add? |
| 19:03.10 | BossMonkey | Elyk: well they should attack the players by default no issue, as for using abilities, you'll probably have to write a few triggers to check if the cooldown is over and then use it if it has energy to do so |
| 19:03.55 | JamesObscura | Hmm... |
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| 19:04.19 | BossMonkey | Hmmm, I think I figured out why P15 isn't attacking P0, might have to do with my ramps. |
| 19:04.31 | JamesObscura | Cronos, The morph Building gateway to warp gate acts differently then the zerg morphs |
| 19:04.34 | ANdyBear22 | Can I start my map editor in windowed? When I test game |
| 19:04.43 | JamesObscura | Might be what we want. |
| 19:05.02 | zeerti | andy you can start sc2 in windows ;) |
| 19:05.03 | Cronos | humm ok |
| 19:05.16 | JamesObscura | I'mma test it out. |
| 19:05.42 | ANdyBear22 | when I test document from editor its always fullscreen |
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| 19:05.50 | facemelterr | change it in preferences |
| 19:05.55 | Shubit | can't find any maps with .s2ma :( |
| 19:05.58 | zeerti | Andybear, there is an optiion. |
| 19:06.07 | zeerti | Shubit make sure you are searching hidden |
| 19:06.29 | Shubit | I did |
| 19:06.37 | Shubit | where do find the maps? |
| 19:06.38 | Ignorance | Did anyone get convert legacy map working for sc1 maps? |
| 19:07.02 | Shubit | C:\Users\Shubit\Documents\StarCraft 2 Beta\Maps\??? |
| 19:07.07 | Cronos | 1112JamesObscura11 Are you making the tower def as a mod or map? Im doing it as mod so i can plug it in any map |
| 19:07.18 | Dinoo | Grum |
| 19:07.29 | Ignorance | http://sc2.nibbits.com/maps/project/74554/incineration-zone |
| 19:07.38 | Fisker | %appdata%\..\Local\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache\ |
| 19:07.39 | Fisker | or so |
| 19:07.52 | Xapti | How do I add Patrol or Hold position abilities to my unit? |
| 19:07.55 | JamesObscura | Cronos, I was doing it as a map... The mod idea is really clever though. I was just doing this to begin learning the galaxy editor. |
| 19:07.55 | Grum | Dinoo |
| 19:08.01 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.01 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.01 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.01 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.04 | DarkIce | Cronos - I'm doing mine as a mod aswell, so my friend can do the terrain etc |
| 19:08.09 | Dinoo | amazingly, it works |
| 19:08.12 | Xapti | I don't see Patrol or Hold Position anywhere in hte abilities list................ |
| 19:08.17 | Grum | lol |
| 19:08.18 | Cronos | Xapti add ability Move and there under that |
| 19:08.18 | Xapti | why aren't they on there |
| 19:08.21 | Dinoo | even though actor isnt the last created actor one second after |
| 19:08.25 | Dinoo | it still select the right one |
| 19:08.35 | Dinoo | I guess it's the last created actor at the moment you write the trigger |
| 19:08.42 | Cronos | there sub abilitys of Move |
| 19:09.11 | Xapti | it only gives move as an option...? |
| 19:09.26 | Cronos | humm the button box should have more |
| 19:09.27 | Talila | Patrol and Hold Position arent abilities, they are Movements in the Command card |
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| 19:09.29 | Cronos | in the menu |
| 19:09.42 | Xapti | there's only move |
| 19:09.49 | Xapti | button box? |
| 19:09.51 | Shubit | are the blizzard maps protected or why can't I open with the editor? |
| 19:09.54 | Cronos | oh hes right its the command card |
| 19:10.00 | Vailreth | man three days and i still cant figure this out.. |
| 19:10.06 | Cronos | in command card select move |
| 19:10.12 | Xapti | I'm adding the ability, not button commands |
| 19:10.20 | Fisker | what's your problem Shubit ? |
| 19:10.22 | Cronos | and theres a few drop boxes the button one says hold |
| 19:10.23 | Gralamin | I really wish there was a way of making a leaderboard appear when the UI is hidden =/ |
| 19:10.29 | Xapti | yeah ok |
| 19:10.30 | Xapti | hold on |
| 19:10.56 | JamesObscura | So yeah the gateway morph doesn't solve the problem either. |
| 19:11.09 | Talila | If you made a new unit, just at Move, hold positiona nd rally have to be added as a button later |
| 19:11.22 | Talila | or patrol rather |
| 19:11.23 | Shubit | I want to open a blizzard map with the world editor and try some things |
| 19:11.33 | Shubit | but I can't find the maps ... |
| 19:11.39 | Cronos | have it destroy with no animation and create new stucture no animation like .100 timing after |
| 19:11.53 | Shubit | C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\Blizzard Entertainment |
| 19:11.58 | Shubit | and then? |
| 19:12.01 | Cronos | or do you want a effect? |
| 19:12.55 | NiNtoxicated | seeyas |
| 19:13.02 | Fisker | you need to find the .sc2ma files and then rename them .sc2map |
| 19:13.17 | Fisker | (obviously you need to have played a map first before it's cached) |
| 19:13.38 | Grum | humz its kinda lame Dinoo:( |
| 19:13.46 | monoframe | Shubit, look here: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net |
| 19:13.46 | Dinoo | Why ? D: |
| 19:13.57 | Grum | well it just is! ;) |
| 19:13.58 | Fisker | failure monoframe |
| 19:14.02 | Fisker | %appdata%\..\Local\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache\ z- |
| 19:14.03 | monoframe | WHAT D: |
| 19:14.04 | HyBReD | anyone know how to move "Default Game Camera"? |
| 19:14.04 | Fisker | %appdata%\..\Local\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache\ <- |
| 19:14.13 | Fisker | = win |
| 19:14.14 | Dinoo | it works 100% perfectly and I stand by it ! :o |
| 19:14.24 | Grum | haha it does indeed |
| 19:14.50 | Grum | now something fun .. do airunits get hit =D |
| 19:15.09 | monoframe | Fisker, you SPOIL EVERYTHING! I bet when you were younger other kids didn't want to play with you hide&seek D:< |
| 19:15.16 | Dinoo | hey I though about that ^^ |
| 19:15.33 | Grum | yeah lol they do |
| 19:15.35 | Grum | poor raven :( |
| 19:15.41 | Dinoo | to fix it : |
| 19:15.44 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lavaescape/. Lava Escape. PvtChevron (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 19:15.59 | Sixen | I live. |
| 19:16.00 | Dinoo | Ground Height of picked unit -> Ground height of picked unit + height of picked unit |
| 19:16.24 | Fisker | not if i kill you first Sixen |
| 19:16.28 | Grum | humz that seems strange |
| 19:16.58 | Fisker | btw Sixen |
| 19:17.02 | Fisker | i add enGB locale for free |
| 19:17.08 | Fisker | oh |
| 19:17.10 | Fisker | you're enGB |
| 19:17.13 | Fisker | i add enUS then |
| 19:17.22 | Grum | what are you then? L/ |
| 19:17.24 | Fisker | i thought you were US Sixen |
| 19:17.30 | Grum | durDur? |
| 19:17.33 | Dinoo | Height of unit is actually the height abow the gruond the unit is flying at |
| 19:18.10 | Fisker | you want Sixen ? |
| 19:18.23 | Dinoo | trying |
| 19:18.48 | Sixen | I am US |
| 19:18.49 | Sixen | :o |
| 19:19.07 | Grum | doesnt work =D |
| 19:19.12 | Grum | Dinoo: raven dies! |
| 19:19.30 | Fisker | not according to the editor Sixen |
| 19:19.33 | Gralamin | Huh, Withinbounds doesn't seem to work with Reals. |
| 19:19.37 | Grum | Dinoo: ((Ground height at (Position of (Picked unit))) + (Height of (Picked unit))) <= lavaHeight |
| 19:19.41 | Fisker | lavaescape was published with enGB locales not enUS |
| 19:19.53 | Sixen | wha.. |
| 19:20.02 | Sixen | the Lava Escape map, I didn't make. |
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| 19:20.11 | Sixen | "PvtChevron (Manager/Author)" |
| 19:20.13 | Fisker | oh |
| 19:20.15 | Fisker | DOH |
| 19:20.16 | Sixen | ;p |
| 19:20.19 | Fisker | approved by Sixen :P |
| 19:20.22 | Fisker | LALALA |
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| 19:20.54 | Vailreth | any one know the order of creating a weapon from scratch and how to allocate an actor to an effect? |
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| 19:21.31 | rebb | hi |
| 19:21.55 | Dinoo | grum, not for me :o |
| 19:22.03 | Ignorance | How do I edit the in-game UI>? |
| 19:22.06 | Fisker | btw Sixen |
| 19:22.08 | Fisker | i was thinking |
| 19:22.13 | Grum | Dinoo: hang the raven right above the lava pit |
| 19:22.16 | Ignorance | or is that not in the editor at all? |
| 19:22.19 | Grum | not above the spot whre it overflows |
| 19:22.30 | Fisker | Think it would be possible to make a script that takes any map and automatically generates template locales for all maps? |
| 19:22.42 | Sixen | I was thinking the same thing. |
| 19:22.45 | Fisker | That way everyone can atleast get a map without "Param\blabla\blabla\" strings :P |
| 19:22.47 | Sixen | There's gotta be an easy way to copy locales. |
| 19:22.50 | Fisker | it is |
| 19:22.51 | rebb | does anyone know if theres a way to force a unit to move to an exact x,y position ? the "issue order -> move" doesnt offer a settable destination |
| 19:22.52 | Sixen | Well |
| 19:23.10 | HyBReD | Issue Order |
| 19:23.11 | Fisker | unpack it, copy the xxXX locale to the 12 other locales, the modify the component to add them |
| 19:23.12 | HyBReD | then click on it |
| 19:23.14 | Sixen | I've got two projects in mind. I want to make a .pud converter :) |
| 19:23.18 | HyBReD | then in the box below youll have options |
| 19:23.23 | HyBReD | Issue order to point |
| 19:23.25 | HyBReD | tada |
| 19:23.26 | BossMonkey | anyone else having trouble with pathing on ramps? |
| 19:23.29 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.30 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.32 | rebb | oh, thanks alot :) |
| 19:23.38 | Fisker | that tells it what locales are included |
| 19:23.47 | Fisker | and locales are just folders with text documents in them |
| 19:24.47 | Sixen | We need to make an "Uberlisk" how-to with GE. |
| 19:24.49 | Dinoo | yeah Grum, height of unit fail :( |
| 19:24.57 | Fisker | yeah i could use that |
| 19:25.02 | Dinoo | height of a raevn is 3.75 but it actually fly higher so it doesnt seem to be in the lave |
| 19:25.02 | Fisker | but i'm kinda disappointed with it |
| 19:25.04 | Dinoo | lava* |
| 19:25.11 | Fisker | As far as i can see the überlisk can only attack one target at a time |
| 19:25.19 | Fisker | So i dunno if you can script it otherwise |
| 19:25.29 | Fisker | But it would've been sweet if it could attack multiple targets |
| 19:25.34 | Bifuu|Work | *Hopes Sixen isnt look at me* |
| 19:25.53 | Grum | well then we have to exclude units on the fact they can fly |
| 19:26.02 | HyBReD | wow |
| 19:26.11 | HyBReD | the camera is such a pain in the ass in this editor |
| 19:26.26 | zeerti | Fisker have you seen the uberlisk created by blizzard? |
| 19:26.29 | Hati | :( |
| 19:26.35 | zeerti | it attacks several units at a time |
| 19:26.39 | Fisker | oh |
| 19:26.46 | Fisker | wee then |
| 19:26.54 | Hati | Sixen - we need to be able to set our own Attachment Points |
| 19:26.55 | Fisker | couldn't really see it on that movie |
| 19:27.12 | Barter | grum: better check if they have ground as a plane array |
| 19:27.30 | Grum | Barter: how from triggers? |
| 19:27.33 | Xapti | how do you you modify the actor for a unit? |
| 19:27.55 | Sixen | lol Bifuu |
| 19:27.56 | Barter | well havent looked if you can with triggers :S |
| 19:27.56 | Ignorance | lol is anyone else getting funny results with convert legacy map? |
| 19:27.59 | Ignorance | i.e. no cliffs? |
| 19:28.02 | Xapti | yes |
| 19:28.18 | zeerti | that's why you don't do it lol |
| 19:28.23 | Cronos | Xapti its a speerat section in data |
| 19:28.26 | Cronos | one sec |
| 19:28.34 | Xapti | speerat |
| 19:28.52 | Galois-evariste | [Question] Is anyone familiar with how to incorporate Conditions with Events? |
| 19:28.54 | Cronos | cant type lol |
| 19:29.06 | Cronos | Data type: drop blox select actors |
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| 19:29.15 | Cronos | look for it there |
| 19:29.44 | Xapti | huh? |
| 19:29.44 | Grum | Unit Type Attribute -> Hover maybe? |
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| 19:29.48 | Terex | Hi mapster! |
| 19:29.50 | Cronos | you cant directly edit it from the unit |
| 19:29.55 | BossMonkey | Yay I figured out how to remove foilage :D |
| 19:29.56 | Xapti | oh so a attribute for the unit though? |
| 19:29.56 | Skizot | HyBReD been around? |
| 19:30.05 | Grum | Galois-evariste: yeah i am; ask away (in here ^^) |
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| 19:30.43 | Cronos | the unit and actor are linked from the actor .. and you can not edit the model from the unit |
| 19:30.45 | ShiftKalicompton | Has anyone started working on World of Starcraft? |
| 19:30.50 | Cronos | you have to find its actor |
| 19:30.56 | zeerti | rofl no, no one knows how to do the FPS |
| 19:31.08 | Grum | Dinoo: lol that wasnt it ;D |
| 19:31.13 | Terex | Shift, is it even possible? |
| 19:31.23 | zeerti | sure it is |
| 19:31.25 | Terex | I mean MMO part |
| 19:31.29 | zeerti | sure! |
| 19:31.31 | qwebirc925 | olnly in 3rd person right no |
| 19:31.32 | qwebirc925 | w |
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| 19:31.46 | ShiftKalicompton | well i was reading the tutorial about items and inventory |
| 19:32.05 | zeerti | all you'd have to do is make multiple maps each being a "dungeon" |
| 19:32.10 | ShiftKalicompton | equipment can be done |
| 19:32.18 | Terex | zeerti |
| 19:32.21 | ShiftKalicompton | you wont have 25 player raids but you could do like 12 players |
| 19:32.25 | zeerti | Terex |
| 19:32.33 | qwebirc925 | 16 players |
| 19:32.43 | ShiftKalicompton | i left some spots for NPCs |
| 19:32.43 | Xapti | cronos, but how do you change the actor for a units that you already made |
| 19:32.51 | Terex | it won`t be WoS, it would be Diablo-style maximum |
| 19:32.57 | Chevron | see map new map on the site |
| 19:33.02 | Bifuu|Work | bb around 10 EST |
| 19:33.04 | Chevron | my new map* |
| 19:33.06 | zeerti | No way dude it would b WoS |
| 19:33.20 | zeerti | it would be difficult to do, but it could be done |
| 19:33.22 | HyBReD | whats up Skizot |
| 19:33.28 | Alevice_Work | Xapti, you dont need to change actor. what do you want to do that for |
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| 19:33.43 | Xapti | because I made another actor |
| 19:33.46 | Skizot | LOL |
| 19:33.46 | Skizot | http://skizot.ziggyware.com/rpg1.sc2map |
| 19:33.50 | Alevice_Work | remove said actor |
| 19:33.55 | Skizot | i pasted that in a sourcemod channel >_> |
| 19:33.55 | Alevice_Work | and then go to unit token |
| 19:33.55 | Galois-evariste | [Question] How do we make Events trigger only when they are all true? |
| 19:33.59 | Alevice_Work | and set your unit to it |
| 19:33.59 | Xapti | and I want to use that one, instead of changing the existing actor that shared with another unit |
| 19:34.00 | barter9 | it would be more like diablo in the sense that its not only 1 world, its a bunch of game rooms |
| 19:34.05 | Dinoo | rpg1 ? |
| 19:34.07 | Dinoo | whats that ? :) |
| 19:34.18 | ShiftKalicompton | save code triggers and all that fun stuff, WoS would be fun :) |
| 19:34.24 | Grum | Does anyone know if you can detect if a unit flies or not? |
| 19:34.25 | BossMonkey | Anyone figured out how to allow pathing up ramps? It's throwing a kink in my map :( |
| 19:34.32 | Grum | from a trigger (or galaxy script) |
| 19:34.39 | Xapti | so from the actor's data attributes, i look for "unit token"? |
| 19:34.41 | Alevice_Work | the acotrs are bound to the unit only through events, like on birth and shit |
| 19:34.46 | Cronos | Xapti you have to find the actor in the actors list .... in the data moduel right under the tool bar it says Data type: with a drop box .. select actors and find the actor linked to your unit .. or make a new one and link it |
| 19:34.49 | Alevice_Work | yep, at the top actually |
| 19:35.01 | Terex | I wonder, will it be possible to make some Havok features? Like collisions (for example, Hydra spines will hit not the target, but first unit encountered) |
| 19:35.02 | Dinoo | yeah grum |
| 19:35.03 | Cronos | you have to edit the actor from the data type : actors list |
| 19:35.08 | Alevice_Work | the unit token propagates through all the instances the unit is mentioned in the actor |
| 19:35.14 | Dinoo | (Height of Unit > 0) = flying unit ^^ |
| 19:35.20 | Grum | Mods/Core.SC2Mod/Base.SC2Data/GameData/CursorData.xml: <CCursor id="Crosshairs"> |
| 19:35.20 | Grum | Mods/Core.SC2Mod/Base.SC2Data/GameData/CursorData.xml: <CCursor id="Crosshairs_Prot"> |
| 19:35.21 | Grum | Mods/Core.SC2Mod/Base.SC2Data/GameData/CursorData.xml: <CCursor id="Crosshairs_Zerg"> |
| 19:35.26 | Grum | mm crosshair? :p |
| 19:35.32 | Dinoo | :o |
| 19:35.40 | Barter | targeting crosshairs no? |
| 19:35.46 | Alevice_Work | crosshair is show for picking a target for a spell |
| 19:35.49 | Barter | like when you have a targeting ability |
| 19:35.52 | Fisker | Grum |
| 19:35.52 | Grum | ah yeah |
| 19:35.58 | Cronos | It took me hours to figure that out i never used a map editor before |
| 19:36.03 | Terex | Brb, trying new map from here |
| 19:36.04 | Ignorance | which player is hostile? 14? |
| 19:36.04 | Xapti | cronos |
| 19:36.08 | Cronos | ya |
| 19:36.08 | Xapti | I know how to get to actors |
| 19:36.09 | Sixen | 15 |
| 19:36.10 | Dinoo | 15 |
| 19:36.11 | Ignorance | ok |
| 19:36.11 | Sixen | 15 is hostile. |
| 19:36.15 | Sixen | 0 is neutral |
| 19:36.17 | Xapti | I am saying how do you CHANGE the actor for a unit |
| 19:36.28 | Alevice_Work | have you tried what I told you yet? |
| 19:36.37 | Sixen | Xapti, make a copy and change the unitName |
| 19:36.42 | Xapti | I couldn't find "unit token" |
| 19:36.51 | Sixen | Up top. First field. unitName |
| 19:36.55 | Alevice_Work | its at the top |
| 19:36.59 | Alevice_Work | yeah that |
| 19:37.00 | Gralamin | Awesome, I think my proof of Concept lunar lander is done. |
| 19:37.18 | Xapti | oh unitname |
| 19:37.30 | Alevice_Work | yeah sorry dont have ge with me here |
| 19:37.35 | Dinoo | hmmm Grum |
| 19:37.40 | Dinoo | is the bottom of the laval pit cliff 0 ? |
| 19:37.40 | Cronos | ohhhh its the very top box in the actor unitName ? i didnt see what you wanted |
| 19:37.44 | Xapti | wait, unitname? i don't see that either? |
| 19:37.48 | Sixen | Yup, cronos. |
| 19:37.52 | Sixen | VERY first field |
| 19:37.57 | Alevice_Work | at the very very very top |
| 19:38.01 | Xapti | my field is order alpheticallby |
| 19:38.03 | Cronos | ya lol |
| 19:38.05 | Xapti | alphabetically |
| 19:38.09 | Barter | its another table |
| 19:38.12 | Grum | Dinoo: lower i think |
| 19:38.13 | Alevice_Work | its before normal fields even |
| 19:38.14 | Sixen | It's not in the same table. |
| 19:38.22 | Alevice_Work | so it is not sorted |
| 19:38.26 | Xapti | OOOH |
| 19:38.28 | Xapti | my SPI |
| 19:38.29 | Xapti | DPI |
| 19:38.31 | Xapti | is blocking it |
| 19:38.34 | Alevice_Work | hah |
| 19:38.38 | Xapti | stupid editor doesn't support my DPI |
| 19:38.39 | Alevice_Work | lul |
| 19:38.42 | Xapti | everythings crushed |
| 19:38.43 | Cronos | lol |
| 19:38.52 | Alevice_Work | yeah the whole non standard control thing irks me |
| 19:38.55 | Xapti | it's garbage, i can't rezise most panels either |
| 19:39.55 | Xapti | so what do i do with that |
| 19:39.59 | Xapti | add a new token? |
| 19:40.12 | Alevice_Work | modify it |
| 19:40.16 | Alevice_Work | the current one |
| 19:40.24 | Xapti | there wasn't a current one i dont' think |
| 19:40.24 | Cronos | double click to modify and a selection menu pops up |
| 19:40.26 | Xapti | so i made a new one |
| 19:40.49 | Alevice_Work | it wont work then, sadly |
| 19:41.07 | Alevice_Work | in that case you may have to edit it manually by going to events dialog |
| 19:41.11 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps.rss - Maps RSS |
| 19:41.12 | Terex | Scizot, loading screen is awesome, but there are too much system text and reload problems (i couldn`t do it with partial ammo). But I think it`s a great start, unreachable by most modders |
| 19:41.19 | Alevice_Work | and then changing every instance where the old unit is mentioned to your new unit |
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| 19:41.25 | TriGuN | its not possible to host your map online is it? |
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| 19:41.46 | Arthas-laptop | "This guide was written before the editor came out officially. So this is done modifying xml files of the leaked editor (granted it still works). Most of us would rather do it the normal way, though the GE :|" |
| 19:41.47 | Cronos | Trigun not yet |
| 19:41.47 | Arthas-laptop | bs |
| 19:41.52 | TriGuN | hrm |
| 19:41.55 | Alevice_Work | must leave |
| 19:41.57 | Alevice_Work | cya |
| 19:42.06 | Grum | mmm i got it to work Dinoo |
| 19:42.07 | Cronos | I heard a week or so |
| 19:42.09 | Xapti | god damn this DPI, i can't see things |
| 19:42.10 | Grum | as you said .. but ... |
| 19:42.17 | Grum | Xapti: you must have a broken DPI then |
| 19:42.28 | Arthas-laptop | later Alevice_Work |
| 19:42.29 | Xapti | 120 DPI, it's proper |
| 19:42.53 | Xapti | the problem is the editor doesn't support it cause it's probably using pixel containers and pt font size |
| 19:42.55 | Xapti | which is stupid |
| 19:43.24 | zeerti | so then change your dpi |
| 19:43.26 | Grum | we could have an argument on who is stupid ... |
| 19:43.32 | Grum | but everyone knows its not everyone |
| 19:43.45 | Cronos | is there a option for that in run compatiblity mode? |
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| 19:44.03 | Mesklinite | *waves |
| 19:44.24 | Sixen | Hai2u |
| 19:44.41 | Grum | Dinoo: |
| 19:44.41 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.41 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.41 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.41 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.41 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.46 | Grum | ai ... meh .. anyhow that works |
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| 19:45.41 | Repo | 10operation-terran-shield: 03xhatix * r5 OperationTerranShield.SC2Map: updated Fire modus |
| 19:45.42 | Hati | kawoom |
| 19:45.44 | Repo | * reload process happens automatically |
| 19:45.45 | Repo | * no longer required space hold |
| 19:45.46 | Repo | changed view of reload bar |
| 19:46.27 | Dinoo | grum if you want to put in on one line, but cheaper |
| 19:46.33 | Furyhunter | So for cinematics, do we have to make the cinematic shift play, and then show a message, and then go back? |
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| 19:46.41 | Furyhunter | err |
| 19:46.45 | Furyhunter | play another cinematic shift? |
| 19:46.52 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.54 | warturtle | yeah |
| 19:47.17 | Grum | nonon that is cheatsies |
| 19:47.24 | Grum | and pointless arithmetic :D |
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| 19:47.41 | Dinoo | lol |
| 19:47.45 | warturtle | btw I think the way last night me and zifoon* (mainly his idea) talked about how to do projectiles was a PDD like object on the unit |
| 19:47.46 | zeerti | Grum, what do arithmetic do? |
| 19:47.49 | zeerti | lik what are they used for? |
| 19:47.52 | Dinoo | but one line instead of 4, so there ! |
| 19:47.53 | Furyhunter | So will it not go to the next sequence in the cinematic unless I do Run Cinematic again? |
| 19:47.57 | warturtle | and you trigger an event whenever it fires |
| 19:48.00 | Grum | zeerti: +, -, /, * |
| 19:48.03 | Grum | literally just that |
| 19:48.04 | warturtle | set it's range really small |
| 19:48.20 | warturtle | so anytime a "misisle" gets near the target a trigger will run where you can do damage etc |
| 19:48.38 | warturtle | alternatively you can check height and determine 3d collisions to |
| 19:48.40 | warturtle | too* |
| 19:48.46 | warturtle | for projectiles |
| 19:48.57 | Xapti | when I click at the token area |
| 19:49.01 | Xapti | the fields disapear |
| 19:49.22 | Terex | What is the size of smallest official map? 64x64 or 32x32? |
| 19:49.29 | zeerti | 32 |
| 19:49.41 | zeerti | official? 64 |
| 19:49.47 | Xapti | but there are two actors set to the 1 unit, and for some reason one of the normal units isn't available for selection anymore |
| 19:49.52 | Terex | thx |
| 19:51.02 | Grum | has anyone worked with arrays in GE? can you assign values when you create one? |
| 19:51.19 | Cronos | When making things theres the Time: field is Time in seconds miliseconds or what |
| 19:51.27 | Sixen | Someone with US account, bump this pl0x? http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401613918 :D |
| 19:51.40 | zeerti | Cronos: Seconds |
| 19:51.51 | Cronos | ok and surei can bump it |
| 19:51.53 | Sixen | And... fisker! Bump this in EU: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401904856 |
| 19:51.57 | Sixen | Thanks, Cronos, <3. |
| 19:52.43 | Grum | cmon! assigning values to an array from triggers, how to do!? ;D |
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| 19:53.37 | Mesklinite | how's the editor so far guys? |
| 19:53.39 | Sixen | Oh Hati , you're EU? |
| 19:53.42 | Hati | Yea |
| 19:53.46 | Sixen | Editor is great. It's like our third date now. |
| 19:53.57 | Hati | but using US client with hotfix :P |
| 19:54.13 | Mesklinite | hehe, almost ready to go for the homerun? heh |
| 19:54.22 | Sixen | ;p |
| 19:54.35 | Sixen | Hi, futah. |
| 19:55.05 | Dinoo | cmon! assigning values to an array from triggers, how to do!? ;D << ?? Set variable :o |
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| 19:56.06 | Grum | Dinoo: yeah i wanted to do it on creation but that doesnt work ;((( |
| 19:56.07 | Gralamin | http://www.gralamin.com/Lunar%20Lander.zip <- My proof of concept, Lunar Lander game. |
| 19:56.09 | Dustin | Set Variable - Array - [index] - value |
| 19:56.30 | Clord | so far bank function has been disaster... easy to save data right etc but automatic loading when map start is other thing >_> |
| 19:56.36 | Cronos | Whats the differance between weapon turret and weapon weapon |
| 19:56.38 | Clord | it is like feature is not turned on yet when it comes to loading |
| 19:56.50 | BossMonkey | oh fun, you can have 4d arrays :D |
| 19:57.27 | Terex | Is it even possible to make water not so ... square? |
| 19:57.42 | Fisker | yes |
| 19:57.48 | Fisker | by making terrain around it |
| 19:57.49 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 19:57.50 | Mesklinite | you use the terrain tool to do that |
| 19:58.16 | Arthas-laptop | can someone bump eu irc too |
| 19:58.19 | BossMonkey | who was it who needed array help? |
| 19:58.23 | Arthas-laptop | Fisker gogo :p |
| 19:58.36 | Clord | Variable - Set Player EXP[(Picked player)] = (Load "Player" of section "EXP" from bank Untitled Variable 001[(Picked player)] as integer value) |
| 19:58.38 | Fisker | but i did? :( |
| 19:58.42 | Arthas-laptop | oh |
| 19:58.45 | Arthas-laptop | missed that |
| 19:58.53 | Fisker | i risked my life for you! |
| 19:59.01 | ShiftKalicompton | where do i remove the weapon from a unit? (official editor) |
| 19:59.02 | Arthas-laptop | :D |
| 19:59.10 | Clord | sometimes map ignores that I do that |
| 19:59.16 | Clord | and things my exp is zero |
| 19:59.17 | Acolyte1 | is there a sort of |
| 19:59.19 | Acolyte1 | fire doodad |
| 19:59.29 | Clord | thinks.... |
| 19:59.48 | Arthas-laptop | Clord |
| 19:59.55 | Arthas-laptop | do you print the value on the screen aswell |
| 19:59.58 | Grum | Dinoo: i did a lame compression of an if to 1 line with an array ;D .. but its kinda lame! ;D |
| 20:00.02 | Arthas-laptop | to see what it contains when it doesnt work |
| 20:00.03 | Xapti | I dont' get this.... is somehow must have messed something up |
| 20:00.04 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.06 | ShiftKalicompton | nvm found it |
| 20:00.07 | Clord | I check that xml file for changes :) |
| 20:00.11 | Clord | everything works right otherwise |
| 20:00.18 | Arthas-laptop | if always a value id try adding a wait |
| 20:00.18 | Clord | it just not load when map begins that value from there |
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| 20:00.19 | Xapti | the unit i am working on, somehow got almost all it's default stats erased |
| 20:00.28 | Xapti | and it says the source is from My custom map, |
| 20:00.33 | Grum | with 'lavaHack' a <Real>[3] and: [ lavaHeightLow, null, lavaHeightHigh ] in it =) |
| 20:00.48 | Clord | so maybe I should not put it directly to map load? ^^ |
| 20:00.49 | Terex | Ah, found needed tool. I just had to play with it`s level |
| 20:00.55 | warturtle | okay man I'm an idiot last night trying to do work with no sleep :( |
| 20:00.56 | Xapti | but the other unit has a copy name, and basess all it's values off the one that's source is my custom map |
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| 20:00.59 | Xapti | ui dont' understand it |
| 20:01.07 | warturtle | what I spend like an hour doing last night, I finished in a few seconds this morning |
| 20:01.15 | Xapti | I need to like redo everything from scratch or somethign |
| 20:01.19 | PrinceofIce | finally I got here |
| 20:01.24 | PrinceofIce | I feel accomplished |
| 20:01.25 | Arthas-laptop | Clord perhaps :) |
| 20:01.27 | warturtle | anyway I got a proof of concept for projectile system working :) |
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| 20:01.32 | Clord | this map has 12 players max and everyone has supposed to be working bank |
| 20:01.33 | Arthas-laptop | havent had time to really look at banks yet |
| 20:01.36 | Clord | exp is for bragging rights |
| 20:01.38 | Clord | =) |
| 20:01.40 | Xapti | I dont' know if it's some sort of bug mix-up, or if i just fuged something up and it's just tangled in some dumb way |
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| 20:02.00 | warturtle | you just use any weapon that targets missiles, have it do 1 damage, attach it to your unit you want collision |
| 20:02.09 | warturtle | and set the radius whatever you want |
| 20:02.18 | Mesklinite | tomorrow I'll start learning galaxy, don't you guys start learning too quickly :p |
| 20:02.20 | warturtle | then trigger anytime unit attacked = missile, and do work |
| 20:02.25 | Xapti | I thought the green things are either customized, or made yourself, but why is it basing everything off my green unit |
| 20:02.31 | Xapti | and my green unit is replacing it |
| 20:02.34 | warturtle | so stop using banelings :P |
| 20:03.07 | BossMonkey | Dinoo: you still need help with arrays? |
| 20:03.26 | Grum | BossMonkey: i wanted it but it simply cannot be done (and i'm ok with it ^^) |
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| 20:04.14 | Hati | LiQuiDPwNiuM here? |
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| 20:04.46 | Sixen | Brb. |
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| 20:04.49 | Hati | k seems not be the case |
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| 20:05.41 | Pinworm | Does anyone happen to know how I can have a trigger detect when 2 units from any player enter a region? I've looked through all the events and conditions and can't seem to find something that requires it to be 2 units, only "any unit" |
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| 20:06.16 | qwebirc79258 | hello? |
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| 20:06.18 | supmeow | hi hi |
| 20:06.22 | Hati | hi |
| 20:06.24 | qwebirc79258 | ah cool |
| 20:06.29 | qwebirc79258 | how do i change my name? |
| 20:06.36 | qwebirc79258 | i tried joining irc |
| 20:06.37 | Sixen | Pinworm, you might want to do something with the Condition in that case. |
| 20:06.38 | qwebirc79258 | but i fail |
| 20:06.42 | Sixen | qeb, type /nick name |
| 20:06.44 | Grum | http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.v5.SC2Map <-- latest lavamap version thingie |
| 20:06.58 | BossMonkey | hmmm |
| 20:07.02 | name | lol |
| 20:07.07 | BossMonkey | now to figure out something practical to do with my array |
| 20:07.10 | supmeow | Sixen, do you happen to play Lord of Ultima ? |
| 20:07.11 | Unrealn00b | there we go |
| 20:07.38 | Unrealn00b | Hello everyone |
| 20:07.41 | Pinworm | Do you know which Condition would be good? I've looked through but can't seem to find one that has to do with the number of units in a region |
| 20:08.13 | Sixen | supmeow: Can't say I have =| |
| 20:08.26 | Sixen | pinworm, I think you'd want to do Within Bounds. Set value to 2, and then use the action for it |
| 20:08.28 | supmeow | ah okay, name is the same at least |
| 20:08.46 | Sixen | People thieving my name... :( |
| 20:08.49 | qwebirc66583 | how do I adjust mineral costs of a unit like a siege tank? simply cant find it |
| 20:08.50 | Insaneelite | I have a question. I'm making a tutorial map for my friend who is currently downloading beta, and I want to make an objective that is completed when 200 minerals is acquired. I made the objective, but am clueless as to the conditions that will complete the objective. |
| 20:09.04 | Dinoo | soooo |
| 20:09.07 | Clord | bank data loading... failure |
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| 20:09.14 | Clord | saving.. succees |
| 20:09.18 | Clord | head -> wall |
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| 20:09.25 | Dinoo | why when I download a map, I get stuff like "Value35OI345" instead of the acutal text boxes when playing it ? |
| 20:09.29 | Gatling | Hello |
| 20:09.30 | Sixen | Insaneelite, maybe Comparison |
| 20:09.44 | Insaneelite | I'll try it out, thanks. |
| 20:09.44 | Sixen | And actually, pinworm, you could probably use comparison as well, instead of within bounds. |
| 20:10.09 | Unrealn00b | Hey, are we not allowed to post videos of the beta/editor? |
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| 20:10.21 | Insaneelite | Would I put the condition in the same trigger as the objective, or a new one? |
| 20:10.24 | Insaneelite | No, it's fine Unreal. |
| 20:10.24 | Unrealn00b | cuz i wanted to make a tut video |
| 20:10.28 | ShiftKalicompton | i seem to have broken my tutorial map with the 4 drones. how do i test something that i changed. (i want to add a hero with inventory, have been following the quide with xml tags) |
| 20:10.33 | Unrealn00b | mmmk thx |
| 20:10.36 | Sixen | Insane, same event. |
| 20:10.41 | Cronos | So i made a custom ability for my tower builder to bluid towers .. put 3.000 for time and added a tower .. it still makes it instantly tho :( |
| 20:10.42 | BossMonkey | who had the issue with 200 mineral tutorial? |
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| 20:10.45 | BossMonkey | i think i can help |
| 20:10.52 | Sixen | BossMonkey, Insaneelite is doing it. |
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| 20:11.06 | Insaneelite | Yeah. |
| 20:11.27 | Clord | how you guys got bank to actually work in loading of integers |
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| 20:11.42 | Clord | my triggers ignore that fact that they are supposed to do that |
| 20:11.44 | Gatling | hm Legacy convert doesn#t work well? |
| 20:11.49 | BlueGhostie | haha |
| 20:11.52 | BlueGhostie | i tried legacy convert |
| 20:11.58 | BlueGhostie | it was pretty ugly |
| 20:11.59 | BlueGhostie | lol |
| 20:12.02 | Gatling | ^^ |
| 20:12.14 | x1 | Does anyone know how to change the weather? |
| 20:12.16 | Insaneelite | No, Legacy Conversion doesn't work well right now. There's still terrain missing from the editor, among other issues. |
| 20:12.20 | Pinworm | Within Bounds didn't work, and comparison doesn't seem to have any "number of units in region" :( |
| 20:12.33 | Sapph | Pinworm: I just played around with it so I don'thave an optimal solution |
| 20:12.37 | diggyspiff | X1, there's weather type doodads in the environment section |
| 20:12.47 | x1 | Cool, thanks |
| 20:12.54 | Sapph | but what I did was set a local variable for the trigger of type "unit group" to "units in region" |
| 20:13.04 | Sapph | and then do a unit group comparison using that local variable, for the condition |
| 20:13.06 | MooCow | does any1 know how to specify the owner of a unit in a trigger? |
| 20:13.07 | Sixen | I'm definitely making a .pud converter. |
| 20:13.11 | Sixen | I want to play my War2 maps. |
| 20:13.11 | Sapph | "number of units in unit group" |
| 20:14.04 | Dinoo | Grum : Shake the camera ? nice :D |
| 20:14.24 | Clord | I have theory... maybe in test mode.. bank loading feature not actually work |
| 20:14.37 | Clord | they after all not support playing maps officially yet |
| 20:14.56 | Blucky_ | hey i have little question |
| 20:15.11 | Dinoo | oh wow |
| 20:15.18 | Dinoo | "Shake the camera" crash the game |
| 20:15.24 | BlueGhostie | hahaha |
| 20:15.29 | Dinoo | that's why you didn't actually put it in Grum ? |
| 20:15.31 | Dinoo | ^^' |
| 20:15.45 | Grum | Dinoo: lol it crashes the game? O.o |
| 20:15.50 | Unrealn00b | So, Im trying to combine units (like the uberlisk) and ive gotten to the point where im in the previewer with unit 2 attached to unit 1's arm. How do I rotate unit 2? |
| 20:15.55 | Blucky_ | i made a Behaviour Attribute i called it for example AGI for my hero but where at the behaviour can i set the stats gain at lvl up? |
| 20:16.17 | Clord | I didn't even knew how to make those stats lol |
| 20:16.23 | Dinoo | ha, didnt crash this time ^^' |
| 20:16.35 | Dinoo | strange, crashed the first time I tried |
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| 20:17.29 | MooCow | does any1 know how to specify the owner of a unit in a trigger? |
| 20:17.36 | Dinoo | yeah |
| 20:17.43 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/protect-statue/. Protect The Statue. tyrindor (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 20:17.45 | warturtle | how smooth is WASD movement online?? |
| 20:17.46 | warturtle | anyone test it |
| 20:17.58 | Dinoo | Action - Unit - Change Owner , MooCow |
| 20:18.06 | Unrealn00b | does anyone know how to attach units? |
| 20:18.20 | supmeow | anyone know of a good glossary resource for the editor? (for defining to new people what "actors"."behaviors","units" etc are) |
| 20:18.29 | DarkIce | Unreal, you can edit models through the viewer? |
| 20:18.34 | Unrealn00b | yeah |
| 20:18.39 | diggyspiff | Warturtle, maps can't be tested online, unless someone has found a workaround |
| 20:18.47 | Unrealn00b | do you know how to rotate a unit once its attached? |
| 20:19.09 | DarkIce | Let ya know if I find out,, going to play with it |
| 20:19.18 | Unrealn00b | mmk thx |
| 20:19.29 | Pinworm | @sapph Your suggestion did the trick, thanks a ton! |
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| 20:19.47 | Sapph | haven't played with editors since my WC3 day years and years and years ago... glad I still got it ;) |
| 20:19.54 | Falco252 | how to select unit position on posing? |
| 20:20.10 | Falco252 | rotation |
| 20:20.11 | TriGuN | anyway to stack richmins and rich vespyne right next to the start loc? |
| 20:20.20 | MooCow | i didnt mean change the owner |
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| 20:20.26 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | hi |
| 20:20.30 | warturtle | Anyone looking to join a map project? |
| 20:20.39 | TriGuN | moo |
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| 20:20.57 | monoframe | goo |
| 20:21.15 | MooCow | sup =) |
| 20:21.19 | Falco252 | how to rotate unit? |
| 20:21.25 | Sixen | Falco, hold CTRL+ |
| 20:21.39 | monoframe | Falco, while Holding CTRL press LMB outside of unit |
| 20:21.49 | monoframe | LMB - Left Mouse Button fyi |
| 20:21.49 | Dinoo | So ? Nobody else get "Param/Value/SFJO342" instead of any text when they try a downloaded map |
| 20:22.02 | warturtle | some units such as buildings can only have their facing set in data |
| 20:22.11 | DarkIce | Unreal |
| 20:22.12 | warturtle | some buildings* |
| 20:22.16 | Unrealn00b | yeah? |
| 20:22.18 | monoframe | Well.. buildings are not units lol |
| 20:22.34 | warturtle | technically they are :P |
| 20:22.38 | DarkIce | Theres two buttons along the top bar, next to the red circle, rotate unit 45 degrees |
| 20:23.05 | Grum | Dinoo: its enUS vs enGB locale crap |
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| 20:23.24 | Grum | someone should really make a simple tool which converts maps ;( |
| 20:23.25 | Insaneelite | My Internet exploded, did anybody reply to my question? |
| 20:23.32 | TriGuN | grum |
| 20:23.33 | PrinceofIce | so I'm in effects right, I'm making a basic map to test out my edit abilities an I'm double clicking to change the value of damage dealt by a weapon (I'm in the effect stage) but the window doesn't pop up |
| 20:23.50 | BossMonkey | Insaneelite: your winning the map after 200 minerals question? |
| 20:23.52 | Insaneelite | I've had that problem, Prince. I just close and reopen the Data Editor. |
| 20:23.59 | Grum | (and with convert i mean copy enUS <-> enGB and adding it to the preload) |
| 20:24.02 | Insaneelite | Not winning the map, just completing an objective. |
| 20:24.11 | BossMonkey | Insaneelite: ah, hrm. |
| 20:24.16 | Sixen | Yeah, i'll see if we can auto-copy locales somehow. |
| 20:24.19 | PrinceofIce | ah tyvm insane |
| 20:24.47 | Terex | what project? |
| 20:24.53 | MooCow | how do to specify the owner of a unit in a trigger? |
| 20:25.12 | Unrealn00b | @Darkice HAHAAAAAA yes, it works, thank you so much! |
| 20:25.31 | Fisker | If you want to do it yourself just get an MPQ editor, extract the map, then copy enUS/enGB(Depending on locale) and rename it appropiately so you have both an enUS.SC2Data folder and an enGB.SC2Data folder |
| 20:25.33 | Insaneelite | Hold on, I believe I may have found something that'll work. |
| 20:25.51 | Insaneelite | Testing. |
| 20:25.52 | Fisker | Then edit ComponentList.SC2Components and add enGB/enUS to the list depending on what's missing |
| 20:26.12 | Fisker | Then make a new MPQ archive and save it as whatever.sc2map using the extracted files of course |
| 20:26.45 | Terex | Sixen, I hold Ctrl, but units still have random directions. What i`m doing wrong? |
| 20:27.05 | zeerti | turn off the random angle button |
| 20:27.16 | zeerti | or just select the units hold ctrl and then click |
| 20:27.16 | Dinoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.30 | Dinoo | it shouldn't even need converting |
| 20:27.56 | Fisker | Well you need to see the text to translate it? :3 |
| 20:28.10 | Dinoo | like, there's a trigger "Send Text Message "Wave 1" to Player 1" |
| 20:28.13 | Sixen | Hrm |
| 20:28.17 | Fisker | i know Dinoo |
| 20:28.22 | Dinoo | and when I try the map I gat that param/value crap instead of Wave 1 |
| 20:28.26 | Dinoo | that's so straneg :( |
| 20:28.30 | Fisker | But how would you translate it if it just said "param\blablabla\blabla"? |
| 20:28.52 | BossMonkey | Insaneelite: i figured out a way to do it. |
| 20:29.16 | Insaneelite | ? |
| 20:29.33 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/path-strife/. Path of Strife. Vork13 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
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| 20:30.26 | BossMonkey | Insaneelite: few steps, make an array for your objectives, then have an event that fires looking for what you want |
| 20:30.32 | PrinceofIce | how do I give a unit an actor so it appears as that actor |
| 20:30.41 | PrinceofIce | like I've got it made |
| 20:30.46 | PrinceofIce | but how do I assign it |
| 20:30.49 | zhuge | how do i make a unit when teleporteed not move? |
| 20:30.55 | Dinoo | wut ? |
| 20:30.58 | zhuge | cause i have the teleport part done. |
| 20:31.06 | BossMonkey | Insaneelite: in the case of your minerals gathered one you want the players minerals changes event, then you compare it to what you're looking for and flip the objective to completed |
| 20:31.09 | zhuge | it justs moves down after that. |
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| 20:32.33 | Insaneelite | Well, I'm a novice with the trigger editor, so I have no idea how to make an array or stuff like that. Sorry, could you explain? |
| 20:32.39 | pOne | anyone out there able to help with custom upgrades? |
| 20:32.41 | Unrealn00b | So after i make a unit in the previewer, how do i get it into my game |
| 20:32.42 | Unrealn00b | ? |
| 20:32.48 | BossMonkey | Insaneelite: sure will :D h/o i'm typing up the triggers |
| 20:32.58 | Insaneelite | Thanks. |
| 20:33.10 | Sixen | Unreal, just place it in the map |
| 20:33.13 | Sixen | Via the Unit Layer |
| 20:33.19 | Unrealn00b | it will be there? |
| 20:33.25 | Sixen | If you created the unit, yeah. |
| 20:33.31 | Sixen | Did you set a unit to use that model? |
| 20:33.31 | HaoWard | zhuge: Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to (Stop) afterwards |
| 20:33.39 | Cronos | whats terrazin? its in the unit cost options |
| 20:33.54 | Insaneelite | A resource that's in the campaign, so it isn't implemented yet. |
| 20:33.56 | Sixen | Terrazine is another resource type. |
| 20:33.58 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 20:34.10 | Cronos | oh ok |
| 20:34.12 | Fisker | Campaign resource |
| 20:34.13 | supmeow | is there any way we can make our own custom resource types? |
| 20:34.13 | Unrealn00b | um no? all ive done so far is attached a unit to a thor |
| 20:34.17 | Fisker | But they have rich geysers |
| 20:34.18 | Unrealn00b | and im just looking at the previewer now |
| 20:34.19 | Furyhunter | it's the extra resource you can obtain |
| 20:34.24 | Furyhunter | yes supmeow |
| 20:34.27 | Fisker | no unique look on the rich geyser though |
| 20:34.32 | pOne | anyone out there able to help with custom upgrades? |
| 20:34.33 | x1 | Is there a "convert to custom text" for triggers anymore? |
| 20:34.39 | Fisker | so i guess you could be a jerk and sneak in some rich geysers without people noticing |
| 20:34.47 | Insaneelite | There's actually Minerals, Vespene, Terrazine, and then the custom resource they said would be in. |
| 20:34.57 | Sixen | Two custom resource fields, I believe. |
| 20:35.00 | Insaneelite | Ah. |
| 20:35.12 | Sixen | Unsure, one might've been Terrazine. I was looking at it before GE. |
| 20:35.28 | Sixen | Brb. |
| 20:35.37 | Insaneelite | Yeah, one is Terrazine. |
| 20:35.48 | zhuge | thanks. |
| 20:35.49 | Terex | BTW, is there a way to implement Wow animations in SC2? In addition to WoW models. |
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| 20:36.26 | zeerti | Yes Terex |
| 20:37.11 | Cronos | Im trying to make my custom building take time to build .. i set the ability build "info - time = 4.00" "info - unit = custom tower" yet it still builds instantly |
| 20:37.26 | warturtle | the time to build on custom buildings |
| 20:38.27 | warturtle | is handled in the "build" ability section |
| 20:38.33 | warturtle | when you add it to the build list |
| 20:38.39 | Chevron | Unable to move existing archive (The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.): F:\Gry\StarCraft II Beta\Mapy\moje\lava_escape v0.2.SC2Map |
| 20:38.41 | Cronos | ya i set it to 4 |
| 20:38.48 | Chevron | what the hell? |
| 20:38.49 | Cronos | and its still instant |
| 20:39.15 | warturtle | e_abilcmdbuild part? |
| 20:39.19 | Fisker | using the mpq editor Chevron ? |
| 20:39.21 | Unrealn00b | how do i get a unit from the previewer in to my game? |
| 20:39.42 | warturtle | the very last time field is what the time to build is set |
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| 20:39.50 | warturtle | make sure you are doing that one |
| 20:39.55 | Cronos | ok i'll look |
| 20:39.59 | Hati | oh just found arrow keys :P |
| 20:40.05 | warturtle | underneath where you select the unit |
| 20:40.49 | Zuk | Is there any way to find where a player's cursor is on the screen? There seems to be an event for mouse clicks, but no way to reference the mouse in conditions or actions. |
| 20:40.53 | Unrealn00b | what do you mean? |
| 20:41.03 | Unrealn00b | where i select it in the previewer? |
| 20:41.30 | warturtle | yeah there is only click information |
| 20:41.42 | warturtle | I'm sure for online games sending the constant mouse position is a little too much |
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| 20:41.50 | warturtle | so they just didnt include it |
| 20:42.18 | Zuk | Thats about 8 bytes per frame per player, if I recall correctly |
| 20:42.19 | Unrealn00b | how do i import a model in to the editor |
| 20:42.20 | Unrealn00b | ? |
| 20:42.29 | Zuk | basically nothing compared to the amount of data currently being sent |
| 20:42.58 | PrinceofIce | took me 5 minutes but I found out how to spawn units in a region :D |
| 20:43.39 | Unrealn00b | nvm i think i got it |
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| 20:43.44 | Terex | Wow, it seems we can make resourse "loot", like gold from WC 3 creeps. |
| 20:44.04 | warturtle | idk I think it's more about the delay with using mouse position.. |
| 20:44.38 | qwebirc40855 | can someone explain to me how to change unit size? |
| 20:44.45 | Dinoo | hmmm |
| 20:44.49 | PrinceofIce | pretty sure its mass |
| 20:44.57 | PrinceofIce | to visually change a unit size |
| 20:44.57 | Fisker | scale |
| 20:45.01 | Dinoo | Anyone figured out how to make consumables items (without triggers preferably) ? |
| 20:45.08 | warturtle | radius inside unit changes the collision size, and the actor scales change the model |
| 20:45.10 | Fisker | mass is regarding physics calculations |
| 20:45.33 | Dustin | If you attach a Region to a unit, it follows that unit by default right>? |
| 20:45.42 | qwebirc40855 | ok so i just need to edit the actor's scale |
| 20:45.52 | qwebirc40855 | thanks alot |
| 20:45.52 | Terex | inner radius maybe? for Marines it`s 0.375 |
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| 20:46.30 | warturtle | yeah if you just want it to look larger |
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| 20:46.48 | qwebirc40855 | i had tried everything with actual unit, i hadn't thought about actor |
| 20:47.28 | Unrealn00b | anright nvm, i dont got it. |
| 20:47.37 | Unrealn00b | how do i import a model for a unit? |
| 20:47.52 | Terex | Oh, built-in vampiric... Should test it. |
| 20:48.17 | qwebirc40855 | i'm dying right now. I had to come home for a funeral from college, so I have not been able to do anything with the editor since thursday night |
| 20:48.22 | Dinoo | what do you mean, import a custom model ? |
| 20:48.57 | qwebirc40855 | thanks again though |
| 20:49.07 | warturtle | visuals = actors, data = unit |
| 20:49.48 | Unrealn00b | like ive made a thor that has a missile turret on his head in the previewer |
| 20:49.54 | Unrealn00b | and im trying to get it in my game |
| 20:50.38 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmcupFx3FQ hehe |
| 20:50.53 | Furyhunter | I haven't been able to attach units to other units. Anyone figured that out? |
| 20:51.02 | Furyhunter | Doesn't make sense to make an actor and attach that on a unit |
| 20:51.12 | Furyhunter | because the unit definition is what gives the actual functionality of the unit |
| 20:51.32 | Dinoo | lol @ Dance animations on marine ^^ |
| 20:51.42 | Furyhunter | Check out the zergling :) |
| 20:51.57 | Xapti | huh... how do you change seeker missile speed |
| 20:52.01 | Xapti | or any projectile speed |
| 20:52.07 | warturtle | make sure when viewing teh data module to click, shift+alt+E |
| 20:52.16 | warturtle | it gives a much better view of objects |
| 20:52.19 | Unrealn00b | anyone know how to get a unit from the previewer to the game? |
| 20:52.24 | TriGuN | hati query me the arrow keys? |
| 20:52.28 | Cicero_ | Oh hey, I figured out how to show points in the terrain/unit layer |
| 20:52.29 | shmen | whats the event for when an unit kills something? |
| 20:52.55 | warturtle | you can then right click any attached data and "explain link" and it will show you how it links to the parent |
| 20:53.54 | PrinceofIce | I can't see any units in my map |
| 20:54.05 | Dinoo | sooo |
| 20:54.10 | Unrealn00b | anyone know how to get a unit from the previewer to the game?????? |
| 20:54.12 | Dinoo | models are m3 files |
| 20:54.14 | Dinoo | what's that ? ^^ |
| 20:54.24 | PrinceofIce | like I can't see any units in my map |
| 20:54.49 | warturtle | just reload it.. |
| 20:54.53 | warturtle | should fix it |
| 20:55.07 | shmen | maybe u disabled the layer, try shift+u |
| 20:55.38 | PrinceofIce | when I go into game I can see them |
| 20:55.43 | PrinceofIce | but on the map editor I can't |
| 20:56.15 | Mischgasm | Prince you need actors for your units |
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| 20:56.56 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/foxtrots-fastest-possible-map/. Foxtrot's Fastest Possible Map. foxtrotUnicorn (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 20:57.06 | PrinceofIce | no |
| 20:57.08 | PrinceofIce | I have actors |
| 20:57.10 | PrinceofIce | I can see them IN game |
| 20:57.17 | PrinceofIce | move around |
| 20:57.19 | PrinceofIce | ect |
| 20:57.45 | shmen | tried pressing shift+u? |
| 20:57.49 | PrinceofIce | yep |
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| 20:58.13 | vjeux | heya |
| 20:58.21 | Dinoo | hey |
| 20:58.30 | shmen | hello |
| 20:58.37 | Magnevv | hey |
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| 20:58.45 | Bowser | hey |
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| 20:59.18 | Frozenhelfire | hey guys |
| 20:59.32 | qwebirc38672 | ok so ive added spine crawlers to an ultralisk and exported as an .m3. where do i place that file so the editor sees it and im able to place it |
| 20:59.37 | ShiftKalicompton | i made a hero unit but i cant select it in during the game, missing unit model i guess? how do i fix this |
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| 21:00.03 | Dinoo | how did you export as an .m3 ? |
| 21:00.15 | qwebirc38672 | in the previewer you just click file export all |
| 21:00.18 | Dinoo | :o |
| 21:00.31 | vjeux | lol, there are 73 visitors from africa! :p |
| 21:00.32 | vjeux | yeah |
| 21:00.41 | AndChat| | Hrm |
| 21:00.42 | qwebirc38672 | what sucks is its the only file type the engine recognizes... so like idk how to make opbjects in maya to import in |
| 21:00.48 | Dinoo | hmmm, you can add file too |
| 21:00.54 | Xapti | I'm checking out Weapon - seeker missile ..... it says it's speed is 0 though |
| 21:01.01 | Xapti | how would i change seeker missiles speed |
| 21:01.03 | Dinoo | but no Modeling software make m3 files right ? ^^' |
| 21:01.26 | qwebirc38672 | yeah i turned on all plug-ins in maya and not .m3 lol |
| 21:01.52 | qwebirc38672 | which is really annoying how the hell are we suppose to make custome models |
| 21:02.18 | TriGuN_ | Who's the best mapper here atm with the sc2 mmer |
| 21:02.22 | Frozenhelfire | Does anyone know where the script editor is? I don't like using the GUI, more of a programmer |
| 21:02.49 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | Here's a Q: I gave the yamayo gun ability to a rine, and got it working all dandy. I changed the impact location to target unit/point, but I still can't target the ground. Why is this? |
| 21:02.50 | Magnevv | ctrl+f11 Frozenhelfire |
| 21:03.20 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | I went through the exact same process as the tutorial did with the seeker missile. |
| 21:03.24 | TriGuN_ | gets ignore.. |
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| 21:04.11 | shmen | Anyone knows how to increase an unit attack speed using trigger? |
| 21:04.21 | Frozenhelfire | Magnevv, that is just a previewer, it doesn't actually let you edit anything |
| 21:04.22 | shmen | i only found move speed action |
| 21:04.37 | TriGuN_ | Idk if there's a trigger |
| 21:04.40 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/steak-racing/ |
| 21:04.44 | supmeow | units break down into actors which break down in models |
| 21:04.44 | Dinoo | shmen : change its weapon |
| 21:04.44 | vjeux | this map looks really promising |
| 21:04.49 | vjeux | don't know if you tested it |
| 21:04.55 | supmeow | <-- saying random stuff to help me remember it |
| 21:04.59 | Armentia | So how do you scale a unit? I can't find it. I thought I found it in shape but it's not working |
| 21:05.06 | TriGuN_ | Vjeux |
| 21:05.11 | vjeux | hey TriGuN_ |
| 21:05.23 | BlueGhostie | Armentia: I beleieve you need to scale the actor |
| 21:05.25 | TriGuN_ | Who's the best mapper in here atm? |
| 21:05.33 | vjeux | <- |
| 21:05.37 | TriGuN_ | Blue that's right |
| 21:05.39 | vjeux | :p |
| 21:05.39 | Frozenhelfire | <- |
| 21:05.42 | Armentia | Thanks Blue, I'll try that as soona s the editor opens |
| 21:05.44 | ShiftKalicompton | the hero boxes from wc3 appear just above the command card. my hero has a box there but it is just white and there is no way to select the hero |
| 21:05.47 | Magnevv | Oh, right. Well I've used some Insert Action - 'General - custom script' Frozenhelfire |
| 21:05.54 | TriGuN_ | Ok well did you play sc1 custem games? |
| 21:06.03 | vjeux | no |
| 21:06.03 | Frozenhelfire | hmm |
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| 21:06.11 | Frozenhelfire | Is that just one line per thing magnevv? |
| 21:06.14 | vjeux | was too young :( |
| 21:06.20 | BlueGhostie | too young? |
| 21:06.23 | TriGuN_ | :( |
| 21:06.25 | BlueGhostie | how young is too young |
| 21:06.28 | TriGuN_ | Lol |
| 21:06.34 | Blucky_ | http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4636/maplolol.jpg does anyboy know if it is possible to disable it that buildings get insvisible when i see a unit behind it? |
| 21:06.35 | Magnevv | Nah, it's not, I've got some 50 lines script in there |
| 21:06.35 | Armentia | I was pretty young when I made maps on sc1. It's ol dman |
| 21:06.50 | warturtle | Anyone here looking to join a team to make a really good map? |
| 21:06.50 | TriGuN_ | I'm 17 and i ve been playing it since like2000 |
| 21:06.54 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | hey vjeux |
| 21:06.55 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | Here's a Q: I gave the yamayo gun ability to a rine, and got it working all dandy. I changed the impact location to target unit/point, but I still can't target the ground. Why is this? |
| 21:07.07 | BlueGhostie | i remember playing sc1 and stuff before going to class in elementary school :O |
| 21:07.13 | vjeux | was 10 when it was released :X |
| 21:07.16 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | i did the exact same thing as in the seeker missile tut |
| 21:07.19 | vjeux | 8 in fact |
| 21:07.27 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | i was playing it that young |
| 21:07.38 | BlueGhostie | yah i was 10 or 11 |
| 21:07.41 | vjeux | was playing pokemon :p |
| 21:07.45 | TriGuN_ | But vjeux I want to make a unit ina region then kill all unit in said region |
| 21:07.46 | BlueGhostie | pokemon on starcraft. |
| 21:07.49 | BlueGhostie | and* |
| 21:07.52 | BlueGhostie | and on |
| 21:07.52 | BlueGhostie | lol |
| 21:08.08 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | i was playing doom when i was 3 :D |
| 21:08.11 | HyBReD | hey |
| 21:08.14 | Armentia | Trigun isn't making a bound map |
| 21:08.17 | Armentia | :O |
| 21:08.17 | vjeux | what's the problem TriGuN_ ? |
| 21:08.17 | HyBReD | really hard question for you guys |
| 21:08.22 | TriGuN_ | Yes I am |
| 21:08.25 | TriGuN_ | Lol |
| 21:08.29 | Armentia | =P |
| 21:08.36 | Armentia | I've made way to many bound maps on sc1 |
| 21:08.37 | HyBReD | How do you write a condition: If Unit = Alive |
| 21:08.39 | TriGuN_ | Um how do I go about doing that |
| 21:08.39 | HyBReD | ready set GO |
| 21:08.48 | TriGuN_ | Oh? |
| 21:08.48 | Armentia | The all too familiar create unit kill all units |
| 21:08.49 | HyBReD | sounds easy |
| 21:08.50 | TriGuN_ | Aka? |
| 21:08.51 | vjeux | if (Triggering Unit) is alive |
| 21:08.52 | HyBReD | but its stupid hard |
| 21:08.55 | HyBReD | doesnt work vjeux |
| 21:08.56 | HyBReD | go look |
| 21:09.05 | HyBReD | thats why i said hard |
| 21:09.07 | TriGuN_ | Armentia what's your aka? |
| 21:09.18 | BlueGhostie | well, what are you trying to do hybred |
| 21:09.21 | supmeow | when making weapons, what is the difference between Legacy and Strafe weapon types ? |
| 21:09.29 | HyBReD | I'm trying to see if the unit is alive |
| 21:09.29 | vjeux | check the property, current life != 0 ? |
| 21:09.35 | HyBReD | nope |
| 21:09.37 | HyBReD | tried that too |
| 21:09.40 | HyBReD | doesnt exsist |
| 21:09.48 | HyBReD | makes zero sense why it doesnt |
| 21:09.52 | HyBReD | but im not seeing it in Comparision |
| 21:09.54 | vjeux | what does not exist? |
| 21:10.04 | HyBReD | a way to check if the unit is living before you do shit to it |
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| 21:10.35 | TriGuN_ | Hrm |
| 21:10.38 | vjeux | unit is alive doens't work the way you want? |
| 21:10.38 | BlueGhostie | well if the unit is dead |
| 21:10.42 | BlueGhostie | you cant do stuff to it right? |
| 21:10.48 | Bemoliph | There is a Unit is Alive condition |
| 21:11.09 | Dustin | wtf |
| 21:11.10 | HyBReD | where |
| 21:11.19 | Dustin | Does Attach Unit to Region not follow the unit |
| 21:11.19 | BlueGhostie | lol |
| 21:11.22 | vjeux | autocomplete "Alive" |
| 21:11.27 | Bemoliph | Click the ( and type "Unit is Alive" into the search |
| 21:11.34 | Bemoliph | When you make a comparison |
| 21:11.46 | Labmonkey2 | hey guys |
| 21:11.48 | vjeux | anyway it's getting late |
| 21:11.51 | Labmonkey2 | have there been any developments |
| 21:11.54 | Labmonkey2 | in playing maps online |
| 21:12.00 | Labmonkey2 | or is it still the same methods |
| 21:12.00 | vjeux | I've got some news you're going to like tomorrow |
| 21:12.01 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 21:12.08 | vjeux | nop Labmonkey2 |
| 21:12.10 | Labmonkey2 | vjeux |
| 21:12.11 | Labmonkey2 | tell me now |
| 21:12.13 | Labmonkey2 | :D |
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| 21:12.24 | vjeux | the only way is to edit the cache maps |
| 21:12.30 | Labmonkey2 | no I mean the news |
| 21:12.38 | vjeux | let's hope they're going to release the bnet maps quick |
| 21:12.39 | Dinoo | tell me too :p |
| 21:12.42 | vjeux | nah! |
| 21:12.46 | vjeux | it's a top secret! |
| 21:12.51 | Labmonkey2 | tell me but don't tell people you told me |
| 21:12.53 | supmeow | :X |
| 21:12.53 | Dinoo | Tell just me and I won't tell Labmonkey2 then ^^ |
| 21:12.56 | Labmonkey2 | then everybody wins |
| 21:13.03 | Labmonkey2 | except for people that aren't me |
| 21:13.06 | Labmonkey2 | :D |
| 21:13.14 | vjeux | night :p |
| 21:13.20 | Labmonkey2 | noooo |
| 21:13.21 | Labmonkey2 | lol |
| 21:13.24 | Labmonkey2 | was it the thing on gosugamers |
| 21:13.27 | Dinoo | WOW |
| 21:13.30 | Labmonkey2 | with the press release |
| 21:13.30 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 21:13.32 | Dinoo | that IS amazing news O_O |
| 21:14.03 | TriGuN_ | Sixen prolly knows how to. Also |
| 21:14.12 | Dustin | BaH! |
| 21:14.24 | Grum | i can do an educated guess ;) |
| 21:14.33 | Labmonkey2 | uh guys idk why but I have trouble reading whoever wrote the current tutorial on how to host custom maps |
| 21:14.37 | Labmonkey2 | can somebody give me the rundown |
| 21:14.37 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 21:14.40 | Dinoo | please do :p |
| 21:15.44 | Terex | Hmm... I made a marinie, like in tutotrial, but my gun don`t shoot. I mean - no flashes from the gun, however it still kills zerg. |
| 21:16.06 | zeerti | you need an effect/actor terex |
| 21:16.15 | Terex | oh, thx |
| 21:17.09 | Armentia | Labs in here :O |
| 21:17.12 | ShiftKalicompton | do i need an actor for my hero unit? |
| 21:17.17 | shmen | is it possible to increase the atk speed of an unit everytime it kills something without having to create diff weapons for every speed? |
| 21:17.17 | ShiftKalicompton | how would i add one? |
| 21:17.17 | Armentia | Too bad I won't be on for about, 10 seconds more |
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| 21:19.26 | ShiftKalicompton | has anyone done a tutorial on actors? im confused at why my hero unit isnt working |
| 21:19.42 | Mystiq` | i wish they had named Actors "Animators" since thats what they seem to be |
| 21:19.52 | supmeow | sc2mapster.com has one |
| 21:19.57 | Mystiq` | war3 models also served as animation controllers :/ |
| 21:19.58 | supmeow | lemme find it for you Shift |
| 21:20.35 | supmeow | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/creating-your/ |
| 21:20.40 | supmeow | for your unit creation tutorial |
| 21:20.47 | supmeow | there's a link to the prereq too if needed |
| 21:21.05 | supmeow | i am working on creating units too atm. just figured out a bunch of it kinda tricky at first :P |
| 21:21.15 | shmen | is it possible to increase the atk speed of an unit everytime it kills something without having to create diff weapons for every speed? =s |
| 21:21.17 | ShiftKalicompton | ty meow, i just found it too |
| 21:21.32 | Mystiq` | how do you edit the cost of a unit or upgradE? |
| 21:21.33 | ShiftKalicompton | knew i was on the right track with why it didnt show up |
| 21:21.49 | supmeow | yeah lol |
| 21:22.08 | supmeow | i just made my probe be able to attack while moving |
| 21:22.09 | ShiftKalicompton | mystiq, search for the upgrade and then there are costs on the right hand side, i'll get the names |
| 21:22.11 | Mystiq` | shmen, can you not edit a weapon's speed dynamically? but that will increase all unit at tack speed of that weapon |
| 21:22.15 | supmeow | ranged attack, all done thru Data |
| 21:22.22 | supmeow | i feel awesome right meow :D |
| 21:22.32 | Mystiq` | i seriously looked for upgrade cost but could not find it :/ |
| 21:22.57 | Barter | its on the button |
| 21:23.03 | ShiftKalicompton | stats - score - produce |
| 21:23.17 | Barter | on the building |
| 21:23.29 | shmen | Mystiq, hum i think so but i dont want that. Its for an hero, i want him to attack faster after each kill |
| 21:23.34 | ShiftKalicompton | oh wair |
| 21:23.49 | shmen | i think ill have to make an iten and modify its bonus after the kill |
| 21:23.50 | ShiftKalicompton | i was wrong thats the scoreboard at the end |
| 21:23.51 | Mystiq` | i dont see anything related to stats/score |
| 21:23.57 | Mystiq` | well, i see score but its total score |
| 21:24.14 | Aegis_Runestone | Okay, I managed to fix most things. In fact, I have created a burrowed version of Kheldrun (Hydralisk Hero)! YAY! |
| 21:24.14 | Aegis_Runestone | However, there's still an error I need to address: every NORMAL Hydralisk is called "Kheldrun" now. If I rename the burrowed version of Kheldrun to "Hydralisk" then all the original Hydras will have their original name. |
| 21:24.14 | Aegis_Runestone | This is a problem. Technically, according to the screenshot I attached here, there are TWO Kheldruns. This is extremely problematic, and I don't know how to fix it. I've attached the most recent version of my map (it has the same name as before) to show off my thing. Also, Kheldrun (the hero version) starts out with Burrow researched, so you don't need to research it. |
| 21:24.15 | Aegis_Runestone | Help? |
| 21:24.24 | Hati | wow that sucks |
| 21:24.34 | ShiftKalicompton | repair resource? |
| 21:24.41 | Hati | UnitGroups getting deleted if all units in it are dead. |
| 21:24.45 | Mystiq` | there are requirements, aegis |
| 21:24.52 | Mystiq` | you probably need to attach a requirement to the upgrade or the unit |
| 21:25.09 | Aegis_Runestone | for fixing the name problem? |
| 21:25.36 | Xapti | hey guys, should be a pretty easy question - How do you change the period between multiple shots of an attack |
| 21:25.40 | Aegis_Runestone | That doesn't seem to make sense... |
| 21:25.55 | Mystiq` | did you do war3 editing too? |
| 21:25.55 | Grum | http://sc2.grum.nl/LavaTest.v6.SC2Map <-- last i'll do on that one .. have fun with it ;) |
| 21:26.00 | Xapti | i know in weapondata there was a attribute called like periodic_period_delay or something |
| 21:26.04 | Mystiq` | remember how upgrades had requirements on them |
| 21:26.07 | Xapti | but i dont' see something like that in here |
| 21:26.15 | Aegis_Runestone | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/2/515/Kheldruntest2.SC2Map |
| 21:26.19 | Aegis_Runestone | So? |
| 21:26.19 | Dustin | Fuck, this shit is pissing me off |
| 21:26.31 | Aegis_Runestone | The burrow isn't the problem, Mystic. It's the NAME of the units. |
| 21:27.23 | Aegis_Runestone | like now, all the normal Hydras are called "Kheldrun" because I named the burrowed version of Kheldrun to "Kheldrun" |
| 21:27.32 | Aegis_Runestone | That's the problem I've having. |
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| 21:28.26 | Mystiq` | did you create a separate Actor for your new unit? |
| 21:28.44 | Aegis_Runestone | Yes |
| 21:28.48 | Mystiq` | i duno |
| 21:28.55 | Mystiq` | im just tryin to duplicate a starcraft 1 map of mine for now |
| 21:29.13 | Mystiq` | then im gonna start on a war3 map that will prolly take weeks to recode :/ |
| 21:29.26 | supmeow | weeks :) |
| 21:29.43 | davidcramer | cool i see some new maps uploaded |
| 21:29.53 | Mystiq` | its got an insanely complicated combat system which will take a while to figure out then craete in sc2 |
| 21:29.59 | davidcramer | hows everone liking the editor and stuff so far? |
| 21:30.14 | Mystiq` | ill give you my opinion after i start creating this combat system |
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| 21:30.39 | davidcramer | im still adjusting to it |
| 21:30.46 | NoRoo | hey guys |
| 21:30.50 | davidcramer | but managed to get the basics of our map done last night |
| 21:30.56 | SirAd | the editor is so overwhelmingly large I'm still figuring out where to start trying to learn it |
| 21:31.15 | supmeow | i'd recommend start here http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/creating-your/ |
| 21:31.18 | supmeow | really helped me learn the terms |
| 21:31.18 | NoRoo | any one here know their way around data structures in SC2 |
| 21:31.20 | NoRoo | ? |
| 21:31.28 | Mystiq` | i have a mild grasp, noroo |
| 21:31.31 | BossMonkey | SirAd: start small, also yes, tutorials on the site is a great place to begin |
| 21:31.46 | SirAd | yeah, thanks for the tips |
| 21:31.48 | Mystiq` | if someone could find out where to edit stupid unit mineral/gas costs that'd be great |
| 21:31.53 | NoRoo | Mystiq`: what are some options I have here? |
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| 21:32.04 | BossMonkey | Mystiq`: i wanna say it's the repair resource field |
| 21:32.05 | Mystiq` | are you doing UI triggers or galaxy code? |
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| 21:32.40 | Mystiq` | ok, that covers units, what about for upgrades? |
| 21:32.41 | NoRoo | Mystiq`: me? I only know triggers at the moment |
| 21:32.50 | Mystiq` | did you do war3 triggers? |
| 21:33.12 | Mischgasm | Somebody give me an idea for a map :) |
| 21:33.22 | zeerti | Galaga. |
| 21:33.23 | zeerti | go. |
| 21:33.23 | NoRoo | no, I'm new to blizzard API, but not datastructures |
| 21:33.30 | Cerebral | ~~Is currently smashing his head against the computer trying to get his new researchable abilities to work correctly~~ |
| 21:33.43 | wacko | hi all |
| 21:33.48 | Cilution | looks like you need to research research |
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| 21:33.52 | Mystiq` | i can tell im going to have a fucking hard time with this war3 map when i start it |
| 21:33.53 | Cerebral | lol |
| 21:33.53 | SirAd | hi wacko |
| 21:34.02 | davidcramer | NoRoo: the question is not what can you do, but what do you want to do |
| 21:34.15 | Mystiq` | noroo, just try it, you get every single data type the game offers |
| 21:34.19 | Mystiq` | your question is pretty vague |
| 21:34.35 | davidcramer | Ya very vague :) |
| 21:35.05 | Cilution | I'm having a hard time figuring out what direction I want to go in with the editor |
| 21:35.16 | Terex | David, I like it. Still, sometimes it`s not easy to do some basic actions, like damage change. |
| 21:35.18 | Cilution | should really get around to learning how to do cinematics.. but... |
| 21:35.25 | NoRoo | Mystiq`: yeah it was vague, I think what I mean to ask is, to what degree do I need to implement my own data structures, or are they basically provided, which you answered (check the data types) |
| 21:35.26 | Mystiq` | tho its prolly good to note that the variables in sc2 (and war3) are just pointers (if you're familiar with them) and there are no properties on them |
| 21:35.31 | NoRoo | Mystiq`: I'll do that thanks :) |
| 21:35.37 | zeerti | Cilution the cinematics are fairly siple |
| 21:35.50 | davidcramer | Terex: there are MANY things which seem overly complex and shouldn't be. I've noticed that |
| 21:36.02 | Cilution | are they? I've never messed with automated camera controls or anything like that |
| 21:36.19 | Mystiq` | i created a movie engine in war3, it was pretty nice to use |
| 21:36.22 | Cilution | seems like it would be tough to get a camera to follow a path and tilt/turn exactly how you want it |
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| 21:36.52 | Dinoo | nooo |
| 21:36.54 | Dinoo | I was making a map |
| 21:36.58 | Dinoo | and editor crashed T_T |
| 21:37.03 | Mischgasm | Oshi |
| 21:37.11 | zeerti | Dinoo that;s why you make it auto save every 10 min l) |
| 21:37.13 | Cilution | cntrl s after everything ;p |
| 21:37.14 | Frozenhelfire | what the fuck? you can use struct pointers but not int pointers? |
| 21:37.18 | Frozenhelfire | arrrrrg blizzard :( |
| 21:37.32 | Mystiq` | you dont REALLY need pointers |
| 21:37.36 | Dinoo | oh good |
| 21:37.37 | BossMonkey | oh |
| 21:37.38 | Mischgasm | what's a pointer? |
| 21:37.39 | Dinoo | I saved the terrain |
| 21:37.47 | Mischgasm | I assume it's points to something |
| 21:37.47 | Mystiq` | i would suck someone's dick if they provided pointers and i could do linked lists, but meh |
| 21:37.48 | BossMonkey | who wanted to know how to change build costs/time? |
| 21:37.48 | Mischgasm | lol |
| 21:37.49 | Frozenhelfire | pointers are amazing |
| 21:37.50 | Dinoo | hu ? Everything auto saved :o |
| 21:37.56 | Cilution | I got interviewed the other week for a software job, and the guy asked me if I knew structs.. I told him Java doesn't use structs.. and he looked at me like I was the idiot |
| 21:38.11 | Frozenhelfire | ouch >_< |
| 21:38.15 | shenlok | hehe |
| 21:38.18 | shenlok | sucks Cilution |
| 21:38.19 | Frozenhelfire | structs are like classes, but they don't have methods |
| 21:38.28 | Cilution | I know what they are |
| 21:38.30 | Mystiq` | depends on what language you're talking about |
| 21:38.33 | Cilution | they do not exist in Java is what I'm saying |
| 21:38.37 | Frozenhelfire | ah |
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| 21:38.39 | Mystiq` | technically in C there's almost no difference between classes and structs :/ |
| 21:38.47 | NoRoo | Mystiq`: Yes I've coded in C for many years so I feel right at home with pointers :) |
| 21:38.53 | shenlok | In C there are no classes |
| 21:38.58 | shenlok | I thought |
| 21:39.02 | Mystiq` | er, C++ |
| 21:39.03 | Mystiq` | but yeah |
| 21:39.34 | Mystiq` | oh, i havent looked, does galaxy have any dynamic data structures? |
| 21:39.36 | Mischgasm | Wish I knew some programming so I knew wtf you guys are talking about. |
| 21:39.41 | Mystiq` | like, resizable arrays or something? |
| 21:39.46 | Terex | repair resources maybe are for building also? |
| 21:40.07 | Cilution | programming is really easy, we just make it look super complicated so we have less competition |
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| 21:40.20 | Mystiq` | still cant find mineral/gas costs for upgrades |
| 21:40.22 | Magnevv | from what I've read they don't have resizable arrays |
| 21:40.27 | NoRoo | Mystiq`: arrays aren't resizable, do you mean like realloc() on an array? as far as I can tell there are no dynamic memory management fuctions in this |
| 21:40.33 | Mystiq` | damnit |
| 21:41.00 | NoRoo | Mystiq`: but the applications where reallocing an array is warranted are pretty few and far between |
| 21:41.03 | BossMonkey | LOL |
| 21:41.05 | BossMonkey | siege tanks in bunkers :D |
| 21:41.09 | Mystiq` | ill just throw it out there, the war3 map im going to recode, the combat system is turn-based fighting a la final fantasy |
| 21:41.19 | shenlok | is there no data structure like a Vector or such? |
| 21:41.25 | Cilution | pshh.. now make a bunker on a giant siege tank |
| 21:41.28 | Inschato | Why stop there BossMonkey, you can have siege tanks IN siege tanks IN siege tanks! |
| 21:41.34 | Mystiq` | so i pretty much had to build a game engine inside warcraft 3, and it was so stupid in places |
| 21:41.36 | Cilution | make the siege tank shoot loaded bunkers into their base |
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| 21:41.49 | supmeow | anyone here interested in helping me with a VERY small tech demo project ? |
| 21:41.50 | BossMonkey | Inschato: actually i'm workong on carriers that shoot carriers. |
| 21:41.59 | supmeow | im trying to tech out a targeting system |
| 21:42.08 | Inschato | There was someone who did that yesterday I think who managed to spawn like 20000 of them before it crashed |
| 21:42.17 | supmeow | the goal is to target something, and allow a unit's turret/weapon to attack that target, even while moving |
| 21:42.31 | Cilution | I wonder if you can lock the camera to an interceptor and see what the view is like4 |
| 21:42.56 | NoRoo | supmeow: there is a property in the data editor that determines if a unit can move and use it's generic attack at the same time |
| 21:43.15 | supmeow | Noroo- yeah i currently have that figured out |
| 21:43.26 | Hati | LiQuiD_PwNiuM: |
| 21:43.29 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | mystiq, you still looking for upgrade resource info? |
| 21:43.32 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | oh hey hati |
| 21:43.38 | Hati | querry :o |
| 21:44.06 | Hati | or then here |
| 21:44.10 | Terex | Liquid, where is it? |
| 21:44.10 | supmeow | i was able to make my unit attack while moving -- but what im working on now is to have it not attack unless told to by some kind of ability |
| 21:44.20 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | go to engineering bay |
| 21:44.21 | Hati | "I find that the 90degree thing/turning in general gets a bit annoying. Do you think there's a way to perhaps smooth it/them out?" what you are refering to? |
| 21:44.33 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | under abilities, go to engineering bay research |
| 21:44.43 | Barter | hmmm, how to change the color of a unit model? like I have 2 diff buildings that use the same model, I want to make one of them blue or something, and changing the color field on the actor model didnt change anything |
| 21:44.47 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | go to info+ |
| 21:44.55 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | and modify whatever upgrade you need in there |
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| 21:45.28 | BossMonkey | i love how you can have unlimited units in a group |
| 21:45.30 | Mystiq` | where is info+? |
| 21:45.36 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | the field |
| 21:45.37 | Mystiq` | in-game group? |
| 21:45.38 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | one of the fields |
| 21:45.44 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | under engineering bay research |
| 21:45.58 | Magnevv | you talking to me mystiq? |
| 21:46.05 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | the value says {technology|technology.... |
| 21:46.12 | Mystiq` | bossmonkey |
| 21:46.20 | BossMonkey | Mystiq`: yo |
| 21:46.48 | Mystiq` | unlimited units in-game group or UnitGroup? |
| 21:46.50 | Magnevv | Info + is a field there |
| 21:46.51 | Cilution | I bet the first "professional" map out will be Bejeweled.. they're fucking everywhere |
| 21:46.57 | BossMonkey | Mystiq`: ingame :P |
| 21:47.00 | Mystiq` | oh |
| 21:47.03 | Mystiq` | the limit is 255 |
| 21:47.27 | Mystiq` | i did it with zerglings |
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| 21:47.59 | Magnevv | Yeah, I hate it when I have more than 255 zerglings and I need multiple groups |
| 21:48.06 | Mystiq` | haha |
| 21:48.10 | Inschato | You shouldn't hate it, 1-group syndrome is BAD |
| 21:48.13 | Mystiq` | i was just trying to see hwo many units you could fit in a group |
| 21:48.19 | BossMonkey | 255 siege tanks :( |
| 21:48.31 | Mystiq` | 255 cliff-walking ultralisks |
| 21:48.31 | Magnevv | (joking there inschato :P) |
| 21:48.51 | Inschato | Plus if you have 255 zerglings you've probably lost the game, or are just messing with your opponent ;P |
| 21:49.01 | Mystiq` | 255 zerglings is actually incredibly devastating |
| 21:49.02 | Barter | any1 know how to change the color of a unit texture? (not team color) |
| 21:49.07 | Mystiq` | with the crackling upgrade |
| 21:49.09 | BossMonkey | Mystiq`: if you can GET that many :P |
| 21:49.10 | Mystiq` | and weapon speed |
| 21:49.12 | Inschato | Not if your opponent is prepared for them lol |
| 21:49.28 | Mystiq` | 255 zergings is less than 130 supply |
| 21:49.33 | Cilution | earlier today I did a 2v2, both their armies were more or less wiped out.. so I attacked one with all my roaches and hydras, and the other with a ton of zerglings and 5 hydras |
| 21:49.33 | Inschato | Stopped by a couple dozen helions with the upgrade |
| 21:49.34 | Cilution | good times |
| 21:49.37 | BossMonkey | Mystiq`: if you could bottle neck them you could destroy 'em wiht a few sieges/seekers |
| 21:49.44 | Mystiq` | well of course |
| 21:49.44 | Cilution | 5 ultras* |
| 21:49.48 | Mystiq` | in that case i would do 255 mutas |
| 21:49.53 | BossMonkey | hell, just give me 5 ravens :D |
| 21:49.56 | BossMonkey | IMO 255 carriers |
| 21:50.02 | Inschato | Wouldn't need five ultras if the upgrades were right, one ultra can take out that many ;) |
| 21:50.10 | Mystiq` | one sc1 map i made i renamed the Carrier Interceptors to Hate Me |
| 21:50.35 | BossMonkey | Or I could use the marines I made yesterday |
| 21:50.38 | BossMonkey | they shot blackholes |
| 21:50.41 | Mystiq` | see this is why i fucking hate irc, im too busy talking and not doign this map |
| 21:50.43 | Cilution | make a carrier that shoots flying marines that shoot archons |
| 21:50.59 | isLu | 255 Motherships |
| 21:50.59 | BossMonkey | my blackhole marines & nuclear zealot > carriers |
| 21:51.02 | Mystiq` | i want an ultra that shoots 2 zerglings every time it attacks |
| 21:51.02 | shmen | does anyone know a tutorial that teaches how to create passive abilities, like one to increase max hp/ lvl |
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| 21:51.35 | Radaka | 'ello |
| 21:51.51 | Cilution | someone should make an ultralisk hero map.. you fight through it,, finally reach level 10! new ability.. evolve ultralisk.. turns into an egg... and when it's done.. it just spawns 1 normal zergling.. |
| 21:51.51 | isLu | hi Radaka |
| 21:51.56 | Inschato | Shmen, try taking a look at the Chrono Boost ability |
| 21:52.03 | isLu | It's raining outside, Radaka |
| 21:52.13 | Radaka | oh hey |
| 21:52.14 | isLu | Rain is really wet Radaka |
| 21:52.20 | Magnevv | Has anyone figured out how to do 3rd person view where you control the direction with the mouse? I've gotten it to work but the camera is moving really choppy |
| 21:52.22 | Radaka | yet it isLu |
| 21:52.30 | isLu | It falls from the sky Radaka |
| 21:52.35 | Radaka | quick question |
| 21:52.41 | Radaka | i've got a 2-width ramp |
| 21:52.42 | Cilution | turn the clip distance down on the camera |
| 21:52.49 | Radaka | wanting to put destructable rocks |
| 21:52.50 | Cilution | its probably trying to render too much in front |
| 21:52.52 | Cilution | so its choppy |
| 21:52.58 | Radaka | the only rocks available are vertical or horizontal |
| 21:53.05 | Radaka | how would I rotate them 45 degrees? |
| 21:53.07 | Cilution | try 40 or so |
| 21:53.08 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | hati you still there? |
| 21:53.12 | Hati | yea |
| 21:53.14 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | ok |
| 21:53.17 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | i meant like |
| 21:53.18 | Magnevv | clip distance down ey? I'll give it a try |
| 21:53.27 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | the aiming reticle kinda jerks around |
| 21:53.32 | shmen | Inschato, Thanks ima take a look |
| 21:53.32 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | when you turn left and right |
| 21:53.36 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | makes it a tad tuogh to aim |
| 21:53.39 | Cilution | I had the same issue when i was experimenting with a first person'ish hellion racer |
| 21:53.46 | Cilution | had to turn the clip waaaay down |
| 21:53.50 | Cilution | to make it smooth |
| 21:53.55 | Hati | well otherwise it would be to easy :x |
| 21:54.02 | Hati | but i might change with another change ;) |
| 21:54.12 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | well, ill keep testing your new versions |
| 21:54.15 | isLu | Radaka, I don't think you can rotate them 45 degrees |
| 21:54.17 | Mystiq` | can you dynamically change the perspectice from normal to fps? |
| 21:54.17 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | keep on workin on em! |
| 21:54.18 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | i love it |
| 21:54.20 | zlefin | wooot, i almost have the first race of my innate base defense mod functioning! |
| 21:54.22 | Hati | were you have to 'time' your shoot |
| 21:54.23 | Mystiq` | and then to race-style to rts? |
| 21:54.28 | Radaka | then how did they do it in blistering sands? D: |
| 21:54.31 | Hati | or it will deal way less damage |
| 21:54.32 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | ahh kidna like missile command |
| 21:54.33 | Cilution | im sure you can |
| 21:54.37 | Cilution | just a matter of setting up the triggers |
| 21:54.37 | Hati | and not terrible terrible damage :P |
| 21:54.38 | Magnevv | where do you edit the clip distance? |
| 21:54.40 | isLu | I dunno. Could be a feature that isnt in the editor yet |
| 21:54.41 | isLu | Lemme check |
| 21:54.44 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | well i gtg |
| 21:54.45 | LiQuiD_PwNiuM | good luck |
| 21:54.45 | zlefin | the supply depot is now also a bunker of capacity one, i just need to get the firing projectile to show |
| 21:54.46 | Cilution | camera properties |
| 21:55.25 | Cilution | double click your camera, scroll down.. Distance - Far Clip |
| 21:55.27 | Aike | I just forgot the name of the guy that made Siege of Gondor and Normandy D; |
| 21:55.33 | zeerti | HOW DO I TURN OFF THE INFERNAL BEEPING EVERY TIME YOU GUYS SAY SOMETHING?! |
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| 21:55.34 | Mystiq` | oh, has anyone figured out how to, on map start, pop up units for only human players that are active and playing? |
| 21:56.07 | davidcramer | yes |
| 21:56.13 | davidcramer | player group - pick players |
| 21:56.21 | zeerti | thats the one |
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| 21:56.29 | davidcramer | it does a foreach loop on each player, then you do an if then else, a condition for player controller, etc. |
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| 21:56.33 | Mystiq` | i tried that |
| 21:56.41 | Mystiq` | but it made a unit ven for players that werent present in the map |
| 21:57.28 | davidcramer | maybe you need to add another condition for player is playing idk |
| 21:57.28 | Inschato | Anyone know how to change the default mouse cursor? |
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| 21:57.28 | Mystiq` | i have to say i like how For All loops are now actually loops and not callback enumerations |
| 21:57.38 | qwebirc29007 | can anyone help me with my cat 'n mouse map? I just need a bit of direction for a few things... |
| 21:57.59 | Inschato | Ask and you may be answered... |
| 21:58.05 | Mystiq` | oh, you cant do function pointers, can you? |
| 21:58.59 | Dinoo | huu |
| 21:59.03 | qwebirc29007 | ok well im trying to make it so that a region is attached to the mouse (probe). this will enable me to spawn units on top of my probe from seperate buildings |
| 21:59.07 | Dinoo | how to change a unit life with a trigger ? |
| 21:59.17 | warturtle | dark ages of programming when functions are considered first class :( |
| 21:59.21 | warturtle | arent* |
| 21:59.43 | qwebirc29007 | the only way i can attach it, however, is to make it spawn beside the region and then a trigger attaches the region to the closest unit |
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| 22:00.03 | Ignorance | Did the new patch affect the galaxy editor at all? |
| 22:00.22 | qwebirc29007 | if you've ever played cat 'n mouse you know that sometimes your little probe has to die and go to jail |
| 22:00.25 | Mystiq` | wartutle? |
| 22:00.46 | Mystiq` | someone has to do monopoly |
| 22:00.50 | Cronos | Can you add triggers to a mod? Its blank and i click add trigger and noting happpens |
| 22:00.50 | qwebirc29007 | but i cant get the region to reattach itself to the probe that spawns in jail after the original one dies |
| 22:00.57 | Sapph | mmm cat and mouse |
| 22:01.27 | davidcramer | qwebirc38672: you can spawn units based on a point |
| 22:01.34 | davidcramer | which I believe your probe can act as a point |
| 22:01.46 | limezor | you are right david |
| 22:01.57 | Ignorance | you can set a unit as a variable or some shit |
| 22:02.01 | limezor | but when the probe dies, i have no way of selecting the point of when my probe is revieved |
| 22:02.07 | davidcramer | dont know if you even need it as a variable |
| 22:02.16 | Ignorance | Overall, I would say the interface for the galaxy editor is unwieldly, but it is nonetheless quite powerful. |
| 22:02.18 | davidcramer | if it was a var you could select where probe was lat i bet |
| 22:02.19 | davidcramer | *last |
| 22:02.26 | Inschato | finds switches and supposes he should go back and make his other script that |
| 22:02.30 | davidcramer | its way better than wc3, but theres many areas that would be so easy to make better |
| 22:02.47 | Ignorance | It's stronger, but the interface is too similar. |
| 22:03.05 | davidcramer | e.g. when i select "pick each player in group" |
| 22:03.14 | davidcramer | and i select an action for a player, it should default to the effing picked player |
| 22:03.20 | davidcramer | theres little things like that, that would make it 100x better |
| 22:03.30 | Terex | Can`t wait dosens of cool custom maps... |
| 22:03.48 | davidcramer | same :) |
| 22:03.51 | davidcramer | im working on a survival map |
| 22:04.02 | davidcramer | saw a few interesting ones uploaded to nibbits already |
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| 22:05.13 | davidcramer | oh ffs this one map has no GameStrings |
| 22:05.16 | Terex | Dreaming of a campaign with 3 custom races. But still not sure if I`ll be able to do such amount of work. |
| 22:05.18 | davidcramer | how the hell do I support a map with no GameStrings? |
| 22:05.38 | davidcramer | i like that you can create custom resources in this one |
| 22:05.44 | davidcramer | rather than just overwriting the built-ins |
| 22:06.02 | Labmonkey2 | hey |
| 22:06.09 | Labmonkey2 | can somebdoy help me play custom games multiplayer |
| 22:06.11 | Labmonkey2 | its just not working for me |
| 22:06.19 | davidcramer | you cant yet |
| 22:06.20 | Ignorance | I thought you couldn't? |
| 22:06.24 | Labmonkey2 | no |
| 22:06.30 | Labmonkey2 | you can but you have to hack some stuff |
| 22:06.37 | davidcramer | maybe they fixed it? |
| 22:06.42 | davidcramer | you have to rename your map to the name of an actual map |
| 22:06.45 | davidcramer | and they have to match |
| 22:06.47 | Labmonkey2 | yea |
| 22:06.48 | davidcramer | but i woudlnt bother |
| 22:06.55 | Labmonkey2 | well I kind of have to test my map.. |
| 22:07.01 | davidcramer | use test doc/ :) |
| 22:07.08 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 22:07.15 | Labmonkey2 | its multiplayer |
| 22:07.38 | Hati | Hmm |
| 22:07.39 | Hati | ok |
| 22:07.42 | davidcramer | Labmonkey2: no single :) |
| 22:07.42 | davidcramer | damn two maps are missing |
| 22:07.47 | davidcramer | (missing gamestrings i mean) |
| 22:07.48 | Hati | you cannot shift-select multiple enemy units? |
| 22:07.54 | zlefin | gah, i still can't figure how models and actors are attached to a unit |
| 22:08.17 | davidcramer | zlefin: basically your unit is based on a model/actor |
| 22:08.23 | davidcramer | when you copy it, make sure to ocpy the model/actor |
| 22:08.28 | davidcramer | because otherwise i dont know how you specify it :P |
| 22:08.32 | davidcramer | and it seems to bug |
| 22:08.38 | davidcramer | err copy the actor i think, not the model |
| 22:08.45 | Cronos | zlefin you need to link to the unit from the actor ... dat type : drop down box make a custom actor or use one already made |
| 22:08.58 | davidcramer | oh |
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| 22:09.00 | Cronos | change the top value in the actor |
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| 22:09.32 | ANdyBear22 | How do I create a timer that shows Elapsed time? |
| 22:09.40 | zlefin | ah, ok |
| 22:09.40 | Terex | Check the tutorial on Mapster. It`s all here. |
| 22:09.45 | ANdyBear22 | I have " Timer - Create a timer window for (New timer), with the title "Game Time", using Elapsed time (initially Visible) |
| 22:09.45 | ANdyBear22 | " but it doesn't start |
| 22:09.55 | Hati | Start Timer |
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| 22:10.00 | Hati | You have to start it :x |
| 22:10.00 | Anraiki | hello |
| 22:10.01 | davidcramer | haha |
| 22:10.08 | Hati | hi Anraiki |
| 22:10.34 | ANdyBear22 | How |
| 22:10.57 | Hati | Timer - Start ReloadTimer as a One Shot timer that will expire in 2.0 Game Time seconds |
| 22:11.15 | Hati | counts from 0->2.0 |
| 22:11.39 | Labmonkey2 | guys |
| 22:11.47 | Labmonkey2 | does anybody here know how to test mulitplayer maps |
| 22:11.55 | Labmonkey2 | I know there's a hack but it doesn't work for me |
| 22:12.07 | ANdyBear22 | So I just set it really high to show elapsed time.. |
| 22:12.24 | Hati | what you need it for? |
| 22:12.37 | ANdyBear22 | Just showing a timer saying how long the game has been going |
| 22:12.51 | Hati | Add a real/integer variable |
| 22:12.58 | Hati | a while loop with wait X |
| 22:13.03 | Hati | and add X to variable ? |
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| 22:13.31 | Hati | mostly you need a "permanent" while-loop anyway |
| 22:13.37 | ANdyBear22 | What I got here works, weither it will create memory leaks or not, thats for tomorrows news. |
| 22:13.38 | Radaka | O_O |
| 22:13.41 | Radaka | found it! |
| 22:13.44 | Radaka | but god |
| 22:13.51 | Radaka | didn't know you could copy-paste terrain |
| 22:13.58 | Mystiq` | i cant actaully edit the stupid resources of an upgrade |
| 22:14.11 | Mystiq` | it brings up a window and doesnt have a box for resource costs |
| 22:14.25 | Dinoo | huuu |
| 22:14.35 | Dinoo | In the issue order action, there's no "Move" value :| |
| 22:14.35 | Sixen | Mystiq, why so hate? |
| 22:14.39 | Dinoo | how do you order an unit to move ? |
| 22:14.44 | Mystiq` | wut? |
| 22:14.54 | Sixen | Oh wait. Nevermind. |
| 22:14.58 | Sixen | It was Kel.sjet. |
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| 22:15.08 | Dinoo | oh I see |
| 22:15.12 | Mystiq` | i do agree with him |
| 22:15.13 | Dinoo | need order targeting point |
| 22:15.27 | Mystiq` | the unit tutorial on that website doesnt cover most of his questions |
| 22:15.34 | ANdyBear22 | Ah was just ganna explain it Dinoo, but your a smart man! |
| 22:15.39 | Sixen | Not the changing missile. |
| 22:15.39 | zlefin | hmm, now i just need to figure out how bunkers showing the flashes works so i can copy that |
| 22:15.49 | Terex | Mystiq |
| 22:15.53 | Mystiq` | not gonna argue which ones weren covered, but some werent |
| 22:15.57 | Fisker | farts hehe |
| 22:16.30 | Terex | Look for the research ablity for needed building |
| 22:16.38 | Mystiq` | i found the research |
| 22:16.44 | Terex | and there open info + |
| 22:16.52 | Mystiq` | but when i double click the value array it brings up a list of researches and i cant edit the values |
| 22:17.30 | Terex | and here you can find it |
| 22:17.56 | Terex | brb, looking for exact path |
| 22:18.13 | Mystiq` | again i did find the research ability |
| 22:18.16 | Mystiq` | but it wont let me edit the cost |
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| 22:18.30 | Sixen | Brb. |
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| 22:18.44 | Dinoo | wtf ? |
| 22:18.50 | Dinoo | Trigger Error : Execution took too long |
| 22:18.52 | zzark | am i in the right place? sc 2 map editor irc? i see sixen.. |
| 22:18.53 | ShadowTiger | you have to double click the upgrade from the research ability menu |
| 22:18.58 | ShadowTiger | then it opens another editor |
| 22:19.14 | Dustin | zzark |
| 22:19.18 | Grum | Dinoo: what did you do? ;D |
| 22:19.18 | Dustin | You're in the right place |
| 22:19.24 | zzark | guess so :D i see dustin |
| 22:19.28 | Dinoo | "While" loop with no condition ^^' |
| 22:19.37 | Dustin | Lol you know who I am :P? |
| 22:19.43 | Terex | mystiq, ablities - evolution chamber upgrade ? in the general ist find information + |
| 22:19.56 | zzark | i just saw a few of your replies/posts on the forums, dustin.dustin lol. and sixen... :O |
| 22:20.10 | Dustin | hehe woot! |
| 22:20.14 | Sixen | Yeah, zzark. |
| 22:20.15 | Sixen | :P |
| 22:20.16 | Terex | in the appeared list find the upgrade |
| 22:20.22 | Terex | double-click |
| 22:20.27 | Mystiq` | oh, there it is |
| 22:20.35 | Mystiq` | wow the UI in this editor wasnt all that well developed |
| 22:20.45 | Mischgasm | Anybody undertsand how the pathing layer works? |
| 22:20.49 | Mystiq` | it looks more like a development tool than anything else |
| 22:20.50 | ShadowTiger | does anybody know if you can make upgrades effect only 1 unit |
| 22:20.51 | Mischgasm | Not working well for me |
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| 22:20.51 | Sixen | No doubt, Mystiq. |
| 22:20.57 | ShadowTiger | or will i have to use abilities for that... |
| 22:21.05 | Terex | scroll down, there are resources and time |
| 22:21.18 | Mystiq` | granted, programmers arent known for developing intuitive user-interfaces b ut you'd think the design team would help |
| 22:21.18 | TheBaron87 | I agree mystiq, I'm totally lost -_- |
| 22:21.20 | zzark | I got a question: I created 2 custom workers, 1 probe and 1 SCV -- The SCV builds a turret with 2x2 footprint, but my cannon from the Probe has no footprint. However, the Cannon has footprint 2x2 also, but it doesnt work, any solutions? |
| 22:21.22 | ShadowTiger | also is there a way to make the upgrade cost more time each time you upgrade it? |
| 22:21.36 | Mystiq` | you have to manually edit each upgrade |
| 22:21.44 | happytissues | how do you test these maps??? |
| 22:21.53 | Inschato | Test Document, File menu |
| 22:22.09 | happytissues | does anything else need to be open? |
| 22:22.18 | happytissues | cuz mine just minimizes |
| 22:22.25 | happytissues | with "test doc." |
| 22:22.33 | Mystiq` | this is not going to be fun creating an ablity with 255 upgrades |
| 22:22.38 | ANdyBear22 | How do I edit each element of a Var Array? |
| 22:22.44 | Dinoo | How do you pick every unit of a specific type (ie Marine) ? |
| 22:22.48 | Terex | I`m lost and confused in all that chaos. But we have community, that forges the individual knowlege. |
| 22:23.04 | ShadowTiger | You dont have to manually edit each upgrade |
| 22:23.22 | liq3 | ShadowTiger: you know how to make 255 upgrades? |
| 22:23.25 | ShadowTiger | You set the levels, then you can set the requirements to change per level |
| 22:23.28 | ANdyBear22 | Anyone know how to edit each element of a Array? |
| 22:23.41 | Mystiq` | but do you have to manaully add all 255 research abilities to a building? |
| 22:23.46 | ShadowTiger | no |
| 22:23.51 | ShadowTiger | its only one research ability |
| 22:23.55 | ShadowTiger | and one upgrade |
| 22:23.55 | liq3 | ShadowTiger: Explianeth! |
| 22:23.58 | ShadowTiger | and one requierment |
| 22:24.09 | Blucky_ | how can i make a that a hero icon is shown like in this screen? http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9554/screenieoy.jpg on the right ? |
| 22:24.11 | Mystiq` | Evolution Chamber shows 3 resaerches for melee upgrade |
| 22:24.14 | ShadowTiger | So make an upgrade first, then set the # of levels to 255 |
| 22:24.26 | ShadowTiger | Then make the research ability and add your upgrade |
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| 22:24.27 | liq3 | ShadowTiger: and you've tested this, and it works ingame? |
| 22:24.37 | ShadowTiger | Well im still tweaking the requirements |
| 22:24.42 | ShadowTiger | currently i have 3 upgrades |
| 22:24.48 | ShadowTiger | but its letting me upgrade more than 3 |
| 22:24.51 | ShadowTiger | and gives me nothing |
| 22:24.54 | ShadowTiger | afterwards |
| 22:24.58 | liq3 | and the units actually get those updgrades? |
| 22:25.02 | ShadowTiger | ya |
| 22:25.05 | liq3 | hrm |
| 22:25.09 | Mojache | someone find me a way to use custom sound files |
| 22:25.14 | Mojache | and ill love you forever |
| 22:25.21 | ShadowTiger | so once i fix the requirement check |
| 22:25.26 | ShadowTiger | it will work perfectly |
| 22:25.33 | ANdyBear22 | No one knows how to edit each element of an Array? |
| 22:25.38 | Dinoo | How do you pick every unit of a specific type (ie Marine) in a trigger ? |
| 22:25.50 | Dinoo | That strangely seems not to be here :l |
| 22:25.51 | Mystiq` | you have to manually set the mineral/gas cost of each upgrade level tho |
| 22:25.55 | ShadowTiger | thats a very basic question dinoo go ask in the wc3 map develpment forums... |
| 22:27.06 | Dinoo | nah, I'm asking cause it's not the same as in WC3edit |
| 22:27.09 | Dinoo | found it though |
| 22:27.19 | Dinoo | it's way less intuitive |
| 22:27.22 | Terex | mojache, I`ll try to find. I think it`s somewhere in sound data |
| 22:27.24 | ShadowTiger | use the search ; ) |
| 22:27.37 | Mojache | yeah i cant find a way to play sounds from triggers |
| 22:27.58 | Inschato | ... |
| 22:28.12 | Inschato | action --> search for sound, there's a zillion options |
| 22:28.15 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 22:28.20 | Dustin | Sound - Play Marauder_AttackLaunch for (All players) (at 100.0% volume, skip the first 0.0 seconds) |
| 22:28.24 | Terex | Oh, you mean that. I thought you want to change in-game sounds to your own. |
| 22:28.31 | Inschato | Oh custom sounds |
| 22:28.42 | Inschato | But wait what yeah whatever >_> |
| 22:28.43 | Mystiq` | is there a way to automatically set the cost of upgrade 2, 3, 4, etc.? |
| 22:28.56 | ShadowTiger | No |
| 22:28.58 | ShadowTiger | thats the main problem |
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| 22:29.03 | Mystiq` | see THAT is horrible |
| 22:29.08 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 22:29.18 | ShadowTiger | You could just trigger it but the tooltips would be wrong |
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| 22:29.27 | Dustin | Anyone figured out how Attaching Regions to units works |
| 22:29.36 | Dustin | Cause my logic sould be fine |
| 22:29.38 | Dustin | but my shit isnt working |
| 22:29.45 | Mystiq` | the region moves with the unit? interesting |
| 22:29.51 | Dustin | I dont kno |
| 22:29.58 | Dustin | It doesnt seem to with my code |
| 22:30.03 | Mystiq` | you using a timer? |
| 22:30.07 | Mystiq` | or is it a galaxy function |
| 22:30.08 | Dustin | I even forced it to move |
| 22:30.17 | Dustin | but nothin |
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| 22:30.32 | ShadowTiger | are you using unit enters range of unit? |
| 22:30.37 | Dustin | ya |
| 22:30.40 | Dustin | well |
| 22:30.42 | Dustin | enters region |
| 22:30.46 | ShadowTiger | why region? |
| 22:30.51 | ShadowTiger | does it have to be square? |
| 22:30.51 | Dustin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.53 | Terex | I found a fun bug |
| 22:30.58 | Dustin | oops |
| 22:31.03 | Dustin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.20 | Terex | You can have attack range more, than the notice radius |
| 22:31.33 | ShadowTiger | Unit - Any Unit Enters a distance of 1.0 from Unit sounds better |
| 22:31.43 | Terex | and noone will attack you, until you`ll come closer |
| 22:32.22 | Mojache | I have a ton of voice clips for my game that really |
| 22:32.22 | Dustin | Ill try that |
| 22:32.25 | Mojache | set the atomosphere |
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| 22:32.35 | Mojache | so im sadface we can't use custom sounds |
| 22:32.40 | ShadowTiger | isnt that normal Terex? |
| 22:32.48 | Ratac | Didnt expect this many in here |
| 22:32.59 | Skizot | Mojache you can. |
| 22:33.00 | Skizot | :D |
| 22:33.07 | Skizot | i have custom sounds |
| 22:33.09 | Skizot | <HyBReD> just detect if a unit is within a radius |
| 22:33.09 | Skizot | <HyBReD> in a straigh tline |
| 22:33.09 | Skizot | <HyBReD> if it finds one |
| 22:33.12 | SevenSeven | uh |
| 22:33.14 | Mojache | link to map skiz |
| 22:33.15 | Skizot | uhhh |
| 22:33.16 | Labmonkey2 | hey |
| 22:33.20 | Mojache | ill love you forever |
| 22:33.24 | Skizot | where did that come from? |
| 22:33.25 | zlefin | grrr, attachment methods, so many little details to do just for a simple unit design |
| 22:33.25 | Mojache | and show you what im working on ;p |
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| 22:33.36 | Skizot | gimme a sec and i'll make you a quickie. |
| 22:33.36 | Labmonkey2 | does anybody know how to do the hack to play multiplayer custom maps on bnet? |
| 22:33.45 | Labmonkey2 | its not working for me |
| 22:33.50 | SevenSeven | Anyone know why no matter how high or low my base map is, I can only go up 2 and going down goes waaaaay down? |
| 22:33.59 | Ratac | If there was I wouldnt reccomend it |
| 22:34.04 | Inschato | Because the engine only supports three cliff levels? >_> |
| 22:34.10 | ShadowTiger | it sounds simple, while in game, rename one of your maps to a battle.net cache map and replace it... |
| 22:34.18 | Labmonkey2 | I did that |
| 22:34.20 | Labmonkey2 | it didn't work |
| 22:34.20 | Terex | Hmmm. I thought that AI should aggro anyway. |
| 22:34.21 | zeerti | SevenSeven its just how you do it. Currently there is only 3 levels of support. |
| 22:34.26 | Labmonkey2 | im trying to find somebody that's done it before |
| 22:34.28 | Labmonkey2 | to get some help |
| 22:34.31 | SevenSeven | That's going to increase right? |
| 22:34.33 | Dustin | wtf |
| 22:34.37 | ShadowTiger | did you do it in the lobby? |
| 22:34.40 | Labmonkey2 | yea |
| 22:34.42 | Dustin | I cant select a unit array for my unit variable... |
| 22:34.47 | zeerti | Labmonkey its a bad idea |
| 22:34.51 | SevenSeven | I remember the WC3 editor had pretty much infinite levels o_O |
| 22:34.51 | Labmonkey2 | why? |
| 22:34.52 | zeerti | :D |
| 22:34.55 | zeerti | idk lol |
| 22:35.09 | Anraiki | Is the Timer window bugged? |
| 22:35.12 | Labmonkey2 | I am not giving up a month of dev time on my map if I don't have to |
| 22:35.17 | Labmonkey2 | kind somebody please help me with this? |
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| 22:35.23 | ShadowTiger | the timer window doesnt color very well |
| 22:35.27 | ShadowTiger | but i dont know how its bugged |
| 22:35.41 | Mystiq` | labmonkey: create your map, test it solo, and when retail comes out then play it with people? |
| 22:35.45 | Anraiki | ShadowTiger: Well, to clarify, it won't start/elapse |
| 22:35.47 | Labmonkey2 | um |
| 22:35.48 | Gallin | Can anyone explain to me how to create a uberlisk in the data editor? |
| 22:35.50 | Labmonkey2 | its not a solo map |
| 22:35.54 | ShiftKalicompton | is it possible to make a weapon with a melee and ranged attack? |
| 22:35.57 | Mystiq` | im not creating a solo map either |
| 22:35.59 | Labmonkey2 | im trying to balance it |
| 22:36.00 | ShadowTiger | did you add a timer to your timer window? |
| 22:36.00 | Mystiq` | but im still going to create it |
| 22:36.04 | ShadowTiger | and start the timer? |
| 22:36.20 | Mystiq` | what kind of map? |
| 22:36.25 | Labmonkey2 | its competitive |
| 22:36.26 | ShiftKalicompton | I've made a hero and given him 2 weapons, 1 is ranged and 1 is melee |
| 22:36.32 | ShiftKalicompton | he only uses the ranged |
| 22:36.33 | Mystiq` | tower defense? hydra ranchers? |
| 22:36.34 | Anraiki | ShadowTimer: I made a localvariable that is a timer, and created a window from that, and "started" it. Nothing working. |
| 22:36.38 | Labmonkey2 | its a hero arena |
| 22:36.38 | ShadowTiger | well hydras and roaches have melee attacks |
| 22:36.39 | Labmonkey2 | team game |
| 22:36.46 | Labmonkey2 | we have like 20 beta testers ready to test |
| 22:36.53 | Labmonkey2 | but I have to figure out how to get them able to play |
| 22:37.14 | ShadowTiger | well it works for me Anraiki |
| 22:37.19 | SirAd | by the way, is anyone here making just normal melee maps? |
| 22:37.30 | Terex | +1 to ShiftKalicomton |
| 22:37.34 | DA1 | is there a sc2 equivalent to wc2 UnitDamageTarget ? |
| 22:37.37 | Mischgasm | lol sirad |
| 22:37.38 | DA1 | wc3* |
| 22:37.39 | Mischgasm | funy |
| 22:37.41 | Labmonkey2 | does anybody know where the non-cache versions of the maps are stored? Because it seems like the cache's changed and are now just pointers |
| 22:37.52 | ShadowTiger | try changing the color for your timer window... maybe the default is transparent |
| 22:38.07 | Anraiki | ShadowTiger: can you copy + paste me your trigger, I'd like to see what I may be doing wrong or missing |
| 22:38.11 | Dustin | You cant do a range check for Variabled units |
| 22:38.14 | Dustin | wtf is that bullshit |
| 22:38.33 | ShiftKalicompton | what terex? |
| 22:39.23 | ShadowTiger | how do you pm something in irc again... |
| 22:39.24 | Terex | I also wonder how to make a mixed fighter, like in Warhammer 40k game - with both melee and ranged attack. |
| 22:39.32 | SevenSeven | @Shadow: double click usernames |
| 22:39.32 | HyBReD | rar |
| 22:39.46 | Ratac | grr |
| 22:39.55 | ShadowTiger | no worky in my webclient |
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| 22:40.15 | shmen | How do you export an ability/unit from a map to another? |
| 22:40.17 | Labmonkey2 | does anybody wana try to tackle this with me? |
| 22:40.25 | Anraiki | ShadowTiger: cant use pastebin :P? |
| 22:40.25 | ShiftKalicompton | it might work when you define inventory or limit the targets/range OH! i got it |
| 22:40.26 | Gallin | Can anyone explain to me how to create a uberlisk in the data editor? |
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| 22:40.32 | ShadowTiger | oh |
| 22:40.35 | Ratac | Ask Blizzard? |
| 22:40.38 | ShiftKalicompton | terex we can add a minimum range |
| 22:40.44 | liq3 | ShadowTiger: I created a new upgrade. It's effect doesn't do anything. |
| 22:40.45 | ShiftKalicompton | to use the ranged weapon |
| 22:40.59 | ShadowTiger | 1 sec |
| 22:41.01 | Mystiq` | i would laugh if someone made street fighter in this game |
| 22:41.06 | qwebirc24345 | lol |
| 22:41.13 | Mystiq` | or super smash brothers |
| 22:41.14 | HyBReD | its definietly possible |
| 22:41.20 | HyBReD | the key detection isnt sloppy |
| 22:41.23 | HyBReD | like it is in wc3 |
| 22:41.24 | shmen | liq3: u created it from scratch? |
| 22:41.25 | Labmonkey2 | not with inbuilt latency |
| 22:41.30 | Dustin | God damnit this bullshit |
| 22:41.31 | liq3 | shmen: yeh. :/ |
| 22:41.38 | liq3 | I can research it, it just doesn't do nutin. |
| 22:41.40 | Terex | Hmm... It`s a pretty good idea. I should test it later. |
| 22:41.42 | Mystiq` | this thing is really powerful but its also pretty complex |
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| 22:42.02 | shmen | you have to add the effects |
| 22:42.26 | liq3 | I did. :p |
| 22:42.36 | liq3 | If I change the "max" thing it adds one damage like it's supposed to. |
| 22:42.45 | shmen | hum |
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| 22:43.10 | shmen | let me try something, 1 min |
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| 22:43.24 | Labmonkey2 | anybody want to help me get multiplayer working in maps? |
| 22:44.11 | ShadowTiger | k im going to test my map really quick then post the link |
| 22:44.20 | Mischgasm | Can someone make a tutorial on how to make a builder unit? |
| 22:44.26 | Anraiki | ShadowTiger: alright |
| 22:44.29 | Mischgasm | I'm sure people would love it including me |
| 22:45.00 | Ratac | Think retail will be out before cata? |
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| 22:45.25 | Xapti | I've noticed there is no Effect attribute for weapon, |
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| 22:45.31 | Xapti | just displayeffect, and legacyeffect |
| 22:45.44 | Xapti | I can't seem to get this custom attack to shoot twice to work |
| 22:46.00 | Xapti | does it need to have a link to a missile or what |
| 22:46.06 | Ratac | . |
| 22:46.08 | Ratac | . |
| 22:46.20 | Inschato | To shoot multiple shots at once it has to use a persistant effect or something like that |
| 22:46.26 | Dinoo | Unit - Order UnitA to ( Move to (Position of UnitA Offset by (15,15) << Any idea why this doesnt make my unit mvoe top right but a random direction instead ? |
| 22:46.34 | Labmonkey2 | any Uber Hackers here? |
| 22:46.37 | Valaraukador | my SC2 editor crashes on startup due to a graphical setting change I made. I can't seem to reset it, any suggestions on how I can get it to start? |
| 22:46.42 | Xapti | I didn't put a missile link in, just went straight to damage effect after going through persistant effect (to create 2 attacks) |
| 22:46.45 | ShiftKalicompton | how do you attach sound to attacks? i copied from ghost but i dont hear the c-10 cannister sound |
| 22:46.51 | Labmonkey2 | Vala reinstall |
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| 22:46.59 | Labmonkey2 | or change settings in wc3 |
| 22:47.00 | Xapti | I have persistenteffect |
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| 22:47.06 | Valaraukador | gah, I was dreading that. |
| 22:47.09 | Xapti | but something's not linking right |
| 22:47.12 | Labmonkey2 | wait though |
| 22:47.15 | Labmonkey2 | what settings did you change |
| 22:47.15 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 22:47.17 | Xapti | cause my attack doesn't do anything |
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| 22:47.28 | Terex | Shift, do you see grafics? |
| 22:47.36 | Valaraukador | I turned on shaders, apparently my gfx card doesn't support shaders |
| 22:47.42 | Labmonkey2 | oh ouch |
| 22:47.44 | Labmonkey2 | um |
| 22:47.47 | Labmonkey2 | hmm |
| 22:47.50 | Mystiq` | what card do you hve? |
| 22:47.52 | Terex | If no, just add actors. |
| 22:48.01 | Valaraukador | Intel GMA 950, yeah, awesome right? |
| 22:48.05 | Mystiq` | rofl |
| 22:48.08 | Mystiq` | thats the same card my laptop at work has :/ |
| 22:48.13 | Tehwildcard | How do you block flying units from entering areas? |
| 22:48.22 | Tehwildcard | pathing blockers aren't working |
| 22:48.23 | Mystiq` | that thing is suposed to support shaders for directx9 |
| 22:48.28 | Mystiq` | but it doesnt, as it were |
| 22:48.52 | Mystiq` | i finally learned how to make shaders myself, so i rewrote the renderer for a screensaver i have, brought it to work, and it doesnt work |
| 22:48.59 | ShiftKalicompton | no terex |
| 22:49.08 | ShiftKalicompton | no graphics, this another actor issue? |
| 22:49.20 | dorkass | i know this is a noob question, how do you make the whole map visible to everyone without fog? |
| 22:49.27 | Terex | yes. I had that one |
| 22:50.00 | Terex | add damaje actor for weapon eccect |
| 22:50.07 | Dinoo | Visibility : Auto Reveals entir map |
| 22:50.13 | Terex | *damage *effect |
| 22:50.15 | ShiftKalicompton | i should copy off the other weapons right? |
| 22:50.18 | Valaraukador | is it possible to make multi-level attachments? Like have a unit attached to a unit which is attached to a unit and each one is selectable? Think mimiron from WoW |
| 22:50.24 | Terex | Yes |
| 22:51.08 | Terex | From Ghost C-10 (damage) |
| 22:51.14 | ShiftKalicompton | hmm... damage effect i think i had something like that |
| 22:51.16 | dorkass | ohh right on, thanks dinoo |
| 22:51.21 | ShiftKalicompton | i'll take a look be 1 min |
| 22:52.16 | Terex | Honestly, i haven`t tried to use other weapon actors, like Hellion fire for a marine charater |
| 22:52.43 | Dinoo | How to check if an unit who has been issued a move order is done moving ? I thought Unit - Wait for (Unit) to becomes idle did that, but apparently not |
| 22:53.03 | Mystiq` | check if its last order was stop? |
| 22:53.29 | Mystiq` | ithought i saw an Is Moving condition somewhere |
| 22:53.45 | Skizot | Mojache |
| 22:53.46 | Dinoo | Stop is automatically issued at the end of move ? |
| 22:53.48 | Skizot | still here? |
| 22:53.59 | Mojache | yeah |
| 22:54.01 | Mystiq` | not actually sure |
| 22:54.05 | Mystiq` | i never could figure that out in war3 |
| 22:54.05 | ShiftKalicompton | terex, when adding the actor what options do i pick? |
| 22:54.12 | Valaraukador | it would make sense if it was issued a stop command |
| 22:54.14 | ShiftKalicompton | Cattack? |
| 22:54.27 | Skizot | maps ready |
| 22:54.29 | ShiftKalicompton | sorry, Cactor |
| 22:55.11 | shmen | lie3: got mine to work |
| 22:55.16 | shmen | liq3* |
| 22:55.25 | Hati | uhm |
| 22:55.27 | DeadPixel | Anyone know how to replace a building via upgrade? |
| 22:55.42 | Sapph | like... command center/hatchery? |
| 22:56.01 | liq3 | shmen: which? |
| 22:56.13 | Valaraukador | i think they might be built into the models |
| 22:56.19 | Valaraukador | not sure, haven't done much looking |
| 22:56.43 | Terex | Shift, if you have custom weapon, just copy attack actor for ghost and in the right-upper corner put the name of your gun damage effect |
| 22:56.59 | shmen | i created one to increase terran infantary damage. 10 levels, each lvl applied normaly ingame |
| 22:57.25 | Terex | instead of default c-10 |
| 22:57.34 | Mystiq` | you figured out how to automatically set the cosot of each up grade? |
| 22:57.40 | Mystiq` | mind the typos |
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| 22:57.53 | shmen | like increase cost each lvl? |
| 22:57.57 | Mystiq` | ya |
| 22:58.12 | DeadPixel | @sapph yeah like replacing one unit building with a completely different using and ability/upgrade |
| 22:58.15 | shmen | not yet |
| 22:58.32 | Skizot | just for the rest of you as well |
| 22:58.39 | liq3 | shmen: oh, share? :P |
| 22:58.40 | Skizot | custom sounds ARE possible... http://skizot.ziggyware.com/ringding.sc2map |
| 22:58.42 | Sapph | DeadPixel: this sounds obvious,y but I'm looking at Spire as an example and it has a "mutate to greater spire" ability |
| 22:58.45 | ShadowTiger | Im going to do that next dead |
| 22:58.47 | shmen | i think its done with triggers if you want to have only 1 upgrade for more than 1 lvl |
| 22:58.48 | Sapph | I'll let you know if I figure out how it works |
| 22:58.56 | Mystiq` | that would be awful, shmen |
| 22:58.57 | ShadowTiger | right now im trying to get these stupid requirements to work |
| 22:58.59 | wacko | you can import the sounds |
| 22:59.04 | wacko | and they create links out of them |
| 22:59.07 | wacko | its very easy |
| 22:59.12 | Mystiq` | there is a 2d array in the editor if you check off Combine Structure Values |
| 22:59.16 | Mystiq` | but you cant edit the array in array form |
| 22:59.19 | zlefin | ah well, making progress, hjust gotta figure out how to set the attach point for a container so the firing animation can show at the correct spot (or show up at all) |
| 22:59.31 | Skizot | wacko people don't know that :P |
| 22:59.49 | Skizot | so now they have an example to look at and go OHHHH |
| 23:00.03 | wacko | lol |
| 23:00.10 | Skizot | plus it has the most AWESOME sound effect EVER |
| 23:00.11 | Labmonkey2 | WOOT |
| 23:00.12 | Labmonkey2 | it worked |
| 23:00.15 | Labmonkey2 | I played my map multiplayer |
| 23:00.16 | Labmonkey2 | :D |
| 23:00.19 | wacko | its not that hard LOL |
| 23:00.25 | Labmonkey2 | yea but nobody would help me |
| 23:00.26 | Labmonkey2 | lol |
| 23:00.26 | zlefin | it's silly how much work it takes to do simple ethings in this editor |
| 23:00.28 | Corosus | ringading ding dong |
| 23:00.30 | Terex | Hmmm... I think that in Editor you can find some abandoned upgrades |
| 23:00.40 | Terex | checking for one now |
| 23:00.47 | Dinoo | still didnt find a way to check if the unit is done moving T_T |
| 23:00.50 | wacko | such as zlefin |
| 23:01.04 | zlefin | ? |
| 23:01.08 | wacko | <zlefin> it's silly how much work it takes to do simple ethings in this editor |
| 23:01.16 | zlefin | yeah, 'tis |
| 23:01.27 | wacko | I am asking you what you find silly hard to make ? |
| 23:01.33 | Valaraukador | indeed, but there are a lot of possibilities |
| 23:01.57 | zlefin | well, right now i need to find how to set the attachment point for the supply depot, so I can have a marine fire out from inside of it (liek it's a ubnker) |
| 23:03.07 | zlefin | but i'm referring to the whole process in being hard, the number of little things i had to do to get the supply depot to work as a bunker |
| 23:03.12 | wacko | why not just make the supply depot have an attack? |
| 23:03.20 | wacko | and it can just hold marines ? |
| 23:03.24 | Dustin | It is becuase |
| 23:03.28 | Dustin | GUI SUCKS ASS |
| 23:03.35 | Dustin | I want to fucking use Galaxy script |
| 23:03.38 | zlefin | it has an attack, that works when it holds marines |
| 23:03.40 | Terex | Maybe it will be easier to make a bunker produce space? |
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| 23:04.02 | zlefin | every part of it working like a bunker is functional, except that there's no marine firing flash |
| 23:04.07 | Dustin | Fuck ya |
| 23:04.14 | Dustin | got my colison detection working |
| 23:04.15 | Hati | hmm |
| 23:04.18 | zlefin | to do that it needs an attachment point for the marineinbunker firing model |
| 23:04.33 | Terex | Dustin, will you post it on forum? |
| 23:04.48 | zlefin | and it's not clear that any attachment method is right, nor is changing the defaults or fallbacks helping |
| 23:04.54 | Terex | to help other |
| 23:05.36 | Valaraukador | Is there any API's / syntax available for the sc2editor script? |
| 23:05.37 | Dustin | ya I can |
| 23:05.41 | Mischgasm | Can somebody make a tutorial on how to make a builder unit? |
| 23:05.51 | Mischgasm | I'm sure many of us would appreciate it. |
| 23:06.04 | liq3 | Mischgasm: you looked at SCVs or stuff? |
| 23:06.23 | Mischgasm | I have no idea how to modify the build ability so that I can make my own buildins |
| 23:06.29 | warturtle | ... |
| 23:06.39 | warturtle | just change the buildcmd |
| 23:06.47 | warturtle | to whatever button/unit you want |
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| 23:06.58 | Mischgasm | I'll try that |
| 23:07.00 | warturtle | and add footprints to your bldgs |
| 23:07.14 | ShiftKalicompton | i got my hero to use his ranged attack with sound but the melee is still not being used :( |
| 23:07.15 | dorkass | is there a way to define a different initial value for each index of an array, or do you just have to do it with a loop? |
| 23:07.16 | Gallin | Can anyone explain to me how to create a uberlisk like unit in the data editor? |
| 23:07.17 | Tehwildcard | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipUM5NrT73c |
| 23:07.20 | Labmonkey2 | anybody want to test my map |
| 23:07.22 | Labmonkey2 | ? |
| 23:07.24 | ShiftKalicompton | minimum range is 2 for the ranged attack |
| 23:07.25 | Mischgasm | where is the build cmd? |
| 23:07.31 | Mischgasm | On the probe unit? |
| 23:07.41 | warturtle | in abilities |
| 23:07.47 | warturtle | not on the unit |
| 23:07.56 | Inschato | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/6-whackaling-v0-1-2/ |
| 23:08.01 | Inschato | Now with flying units :D |
| 23:08.10 | Vailreth | hello, i am hoping some one has had some luck figuring out how to add actors to effects? |
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| 23:08.27 | Corbo | Hey gais |
| 23:09.29 | Mischgasm | warturtle, I'm uploading a screen of what you described |
| 23:09.36 | Gallin | Can anyone explain to me how to create a uberlisk like unit in the data editor? |
| 23:09.54 | Dustin | We need a code widget for posting like WC3C |
| 23:10.06 | liq3 | Gallin: no one knows. |
| 23:10.15 | Dustin | SIXEN |
| 23:10.30 | Mischgasm | warturtle http://i40.tinypic.com/ehkv2v.png |
| 23:10.31 | Zoxc | code widget? |
| 23:10.42 | Mischgasm | I don't see the normal cmd |
| 23:11.33 | Mischgasm | How do I edit the build ability for diff units? |
| 23:11.35 | Inschato | zomg Mischgasm is a WC3 migrator not SC1? :P |
| 23:11.44 | Mischgasm | yes why |
| 23:11.45 | Mischgasm | lol |
| 23:11.53 | Inschato | Nothing, just noticed the link |
| 23:12.18 | shmen | liq3: i think i found where to set the increase of each upgrade lvl |
| 23:12.19 | Zoxc | SC2 is based on the WC3 engine, so that makes perfect sense =P |
| 23:12.21 | Sapph | DeadPixel, did you figure it out? |
| 23:12.54 | Mischgasm | grr |
| 23:13.03 | Mischgasm | How do I add custom units to the build ability? |
| 23:13.17 | DeadPixel | Not yet...been staring at this all day I am getting sloppy lol |
| 23:13.24 | Sapph | I just morphed a command center into a pylon |
| 23:13.26 | liq3 | shmen: share how? :P |
| 23:13.32 | liq3 | Sapph: LOL. |
| 23:13.36 | Sapph | the catch is that it still looks like a planetary fortress, LOL |
| 23:13.40 | Inschato | That's a 250 mineral loss, man. |
| 23:13.41 | Sapph | but it's 200/200 and generates psi |
| 23:14.02 | Inschato | Does it generate power? |
| 23:14.05 | ShiftKalicompton | what is melee range? 0, 1 ,2? |
| 23:14.06 | shmen | Gonna test it 1sec |
| 23:14.07 | Sapph | yes that's what I meant by psi |
| 23:14.11 | Inschato | ah |
| 23:14.22 | Inschato | Cause psi means food for toss ;p |
| 23:14.24 | Sapph | when it finished the morph it turned into the planetary fortress model (I based it on that ability) |
| 23:14.30 | Sapph | but it created the power grid |
| 23:14.34 | Inschato | ShiftKalicompton, just look at a melee unit |
| 23:14.37 | Sapph | and has the statistics of a pylon |
| 23:14.46 | Sapph | so I am guessing I need to change an actor somewhere |
| 23:14.50 | shmen | lie3> yeaaa it works! |
| 23:15.00 | liq3 | do share! |
| 23:15.09 | Vailreth | how do you change actors? |
| 23:16.04 | shmen | liq3: ok go to, Abilities >Engineering Bay - Research (Engineering Bay)> effects + field > and add an effect |
| 23:16.23 | Sapph | @DeadPixel to morph a CC into a Pylon I modified the "(None) Info +" field of the "Command Center - Morph Building (COCE -> Planetary Fortress)" |
| 23:16.51 | ShiftKalicompton | ty inshchato, i was meleeing from range 6 |
| 23:16.57 | Sapph | that field seems to control which unit I think if you don't change the actor, you'll end up looking like the planetary fortress |
| 23:16.58 | DeadPixel | Cool thanks! I will see what I can do with that |
| 23:17.04 | GardenofAiur | Whats your favorite Starcraft 1 Melee multiplayer map? |
| 23:17.07 | Mischgasm | Haha, I figured out the build ability finally. |
| 23:17.27 | liq3 | shmen: doesn't exist? :/ |
| 23:17.29 | Sapph | this data editor gives me nerdgasms even though I understand almost none of it |
| 23:17.36 | shmen | wah? |
| 23:17.45 | shmen | hum hold on ill take a pic |
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| 23:19.04 | shmen | oh my bad, you huave to select the upgrade first and then effect+ |
| 23:19.08 | shmen | have* |
| 23:19.12 | Corbo | So many new people ;o |
| 23:19.18 | liq3 | :P |
| 23:19.34 | Mischgasm | And so much knowledge to be had |
| 23:19.42 | GardenofAiur | anyone? any favorite melee multiplayer maps from Starcraft 1? |
| 23:19.54 | ShadowTiger | has anybody else noticed a bug where it will randomly reset the name of your custom units to the default? |
| 23:19.56 | Corbo | FASTEST |
| 23:20.08 | Inschato | HBR, but it's already been remade a couple times I think =P |
| 23:20.13 | liq3 | shmen: so? |
| 23:20.30 | shmen | liq3> taking a pic 1 sec |
| 23:20.34 | liq3 | i mean i found it. |
| 23:20.37 | liq3 | but ok. |
| 23:21.05 | shmen | i mean a pic for the next part |
| 23:21.06 | shmen | :p |
| 23:21.06 | lapin_sc | GardenofAiur smash tv |
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| 23:21.08 | liq3 | kk |
| 23:21.27 | lapin_sc | err melee |
| 23:21.29 | liq3 | GardenofAiur: there was one. |
| 23:21.31 | lapin_sc | hunters |
| 23:21.46 | shmen | http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9384/upgrade.jpg |
| 23:22.25 | liq3 | shmen: haha. Alright. So how do I make it research 255+ times? :P |
| 23:22.52 | Corbo | I wonder |
| 23:23.02 | Corbo | do mpqs still have a file limit? |
| 23:23.06 | Corbo | with the editor and stuff... |
| 23:23.07 | liq3 | dunno. |
| 23:23.14 | liq3 | They're war3 MPQs. |
| 23:23.29 | shmen | you have to add an effect, select Type = Ability, then choose the enginering bay, find the 'slot' for the upgrade which is one of the folders (mine was Info [Info=Research3] for the infantary upgrade) and change the minerals to Add = Value. |
| 23:23.42 | liq3 | Yah, got that. :] |
| 23:23.51 | liq3 | Wondering how I can make it 255+ upgrades tho. |
| 23:23.55 | Mischgasm | How do I erase a link from a unit? |
| 23:24.01 | Inschato | Lulz my map is 1.44MB uncompressed.. just small enough to fit on a floppy! (58.7k compressed ;P) |
| 23:24.24 | FuriousFox | Is there any way to modify an existing unit without needing to copy/create a new unit? |
| 23:24.27 | shmen | hum dunno yet :P |
| 23:24.27 | Hati | Fisker ? |
| 23:24.46 | Corbo | wait... |
| 23:24.48 | Mischgasm | fox just change the values? |
| 23:24.49 | liq3 | shmen: OH GOD DAMN IT. :p |
| 23:24.50 | Corbo | you can't just edit a unit? |
| 23:24.52 | shmen | liq3: seems like max is 44 |
| 23:24.58 | liq3 | well 44 would be good enough. |
| 23:25.03 | FuriousFox | I've tried that, Mischgasm, but it still seems to be loading the default |
| 23:25.04 | shmen | oh nvm lol |
| 23:25.07 | liq3 | once they hit like 22 it becomes uber costly anyway. |
| 23:25.12 | Mischgasm | interesting |
| 23:25.23 | FuriousFox | I'm trying to get an SCV to build a new structure I made, but I can't get the SCV menu to change. |
| 23:25.25 | Mischgasm | I'll test in a bit |
| 23:25.36 | Vailreth | when i save and load a mod file i get copies of the units i edited as well as new versions of the unedited units. |
| 23:25.46 | Robipo | anyone made a cat & mouse yet ? |
| 23:25.52 | Mischgasm | I'll test mine right now then, that's almost exactly what I'm working on |
| 23:25.58 | shmen | liq3: well you know that with this method the increase will always be the same |
| 23:26.03 | dorkass | who's making a ling madness? |
| 23:26.06 | SirAd | I can't decide between playing the beta and learning the editor |
| 23:26.07 | Corbo | I wanna make a tag map |
| 23:26.14 | shmen | need to figure out how to make it dinamic |
| 23:26.47 | liq3 | shmen: well i juts need to increase cost by 25 each time, so I'm good. |
| 23:26.48 | liq3 | :p |
| 23:26.49 | Inschato | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/whackaling/files/6-whackaling-v0-1-2/ <-- dorkass try this, totally not what you asked for but =P |
| 23:26.57 | shmen | xD |
| 23:27.14 | liq3 | once they hit like 22 upgrades it starts costing like 1000 minerals anyway. xD |
| 23:27.21 | shmen | haha |
| 23:27.25 | liq3 | oh 550 for 22. :P |
| 23:27.27 | Sapph | this is interesting |
| 23:27.31 | Sapph | when I place a pylon on the map now it has no model |
| 23:27.34 | liq3 | so about 30 = 750. |
| 23:27.35 | Sapph | hm lol |
| 23:27.40 | shmen | so it worked? |
| 23:27.43 | liq3 | me? |
| 23:27.50 | liq3 | Haven't tried anything. o.o |
| 23:27.59 | Mojache | okay my map |
| 23:28.01 | shmen | ah |
| 23:28.06 | Mojache | just got a hella of a lot more awesome |
| 23:28.11 | Mojache | gonna have to do a steam here in a bit |
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| 23:28.39 | Cerebral | Hey guys, making a space map. How do I remove ground? |
| 23:28.52 | NegativeFeedback | it's |
| 23:28.52 | Inschato | lower cliff |
| 23:29.03 | NegativeFeedback | you can remove textures in little pieces too |
| 23:29.04 | Vailreth | how do you enable the box that allows you to edit token data? |
| 23:29.13 | Furyhunter | yes |
| 23:29.16 | Furyhunter | lower the cliff |
| 23:29.20 | Cerebral | ok thanks |
| 23:29.25 | Furyhunter | the lowest cliff level is officially space |
| 23:29.33 | Xapti | Inshato, did you consider making your whack a ling , a shooting style game |
| 23:29.33 | Gallin | Can anyone explain to me how to create a uberlisk like unit in the data editor? |
| 23:29.46 | NegativeFeedback | no |
| 23:29.48 | Xapti | where you have to reload, and kill htem before they deal damage to you |
| 23:29.49 | Furyhunter | you're as stumped as I am gallin, lol |
| 23:29.52 | NegativeFeedback | there's a page that explains how |
| 23:29.55 | Xapti | i think it would be better |
| 23:29.56 | Dustin | Hmm Cant find the Baneling death sound... |
| 23:29.56 | Terex | Whackaling owns! |
| 23:30.01 | NegativeFeedback | now it's easier |
| 23:30.07 | NegativeFeedback | but it's still complicated |
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| 23:31.22 | Wolf | How do i make an edited CC create an edited SCV? |
| 23:31.30 | NegativeFeedback | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/326-xml-how-to-uberlisk/ |
| 23:31.53 | NegativeFeedback | cc? |
| 23:32.01 | Wolf | Command centre |
| 23:32.35 | Wolf | Ive made one, and ive made the SCV, but the command centre has no buttons to do anything |
| 23:33.01 | liq3 | command card. |
| 23:33.03 | liq3 | on the CC. |
| 23:33.22 | liq3 | NegativeFeedback: we need a data based tutoral with pics. :P |
| 23:33.50 | liq3 | or even better, a video showing it. |
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| 23:34.27 | liq3 | ShadowTiger: hey, how you do do more then 255 upgrades? |
| 23:34.34 | ShadowTiger | okay |
| 23:34.37 | ShadowTiger | I got it working |
| 23:34.43 | liq3 | awesome. Upload the map? |
| 23:34.56 | ShadowTiger | but the limits on the number of times you can upgrade is a little bit wonky still |
| 23:34.58 | Wolf | Ive tried editing the command card. It doesnt let me train the modified SCV, and still shows up blank |
| 23:35.15 | MooCow | does any1 know how to specify the owner of a unit in a trigger? |
| 23:35.20 | Vailreth | please can some one tell me how to edit the token data like unitName for actors? |
| 23:35.31 | liq3 | Vailreth: same way you edit anything else. |
| 23:35.38 | Furyhunter | Unit Set Owner |
| 23:35.41 | Vailreth | there is no box for it |
| 23:35.47 | liq3 | should be. |
| 23:35.47 | Furyhunter | action. |
| 23:36.00 | Vailreth | i had one then it disapeared an i cant bring it back |
| 23:36.01 | NegativeFeedback | wolf, tell me if you figure that out |
| 23:36.13 | MooCow | i mean if i want a unit to trigger something, how to i tell it to only do it for player 1 |
| 23:36.40 | liq3 | MooCow: see if the unit is owned by player 1 in a conditional. |
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| 23:36.49 | Coolflip | wasssupppppp |
| 23:36.59 | Mischgasm | vailreth try remaking it, that happened to me |
| 23:37.18 | Vailreth | remaking what? |
| 23:37.25 | liq3 | ShadowTiger: would be really nice if you'd share. :/ |
| 23:37.33 | Coolflip | so, ill ask this here, no answer on forum, but, is it possible to change one building into another? |
| 23:37.35 | ShadowTiger | i think i found a fix |
| 23:37.38 | ShadowTiger | so im testing |
| 23:37.53 | Dinoo | Leaderboards dont work ? |
| 23:38.01 | liq3 | Coolflip: hatchery and lair do it. |
| 23:38.07 | Dinoo | oh nevermind |
| 23:38.17 | Dinoo | you have to set a name or it's disabled |
| 23:38.33 | MooCow | which of the 6 condition do i use for that? |
| 23:38.34 | Inschato | spire, CC and I think Gateway also change into other buildings >;o |
| 23:38.49 | Sapph | liq3: don't forget spire and hatchery... .and zergling and corruptor (they count!) |
| 23:39.01 | Coolflip | well they do |
| 23:39.03 | liq3 | yeh, except the last 2 are units! |
| 23:39.03 | liq3 | :P |
| 23:39.09 | Coolflip | and ive tried changing the spire morph |
| 23:39.13 | Sapph | buildings are units |
| 23:39.16 | Sapph | are they not? |
| 23:39.25 | Coolflip | it changes the CC into the hatchery like it should, but it keeps the CC model |
| 23:39.38 | Coolflip | CC that spawns larva and creep >.< |
| 23:39.40 | Sapph | rofl Coolflip I had the same trouble morphing into a pylon 20 minutes ago |
| 23:39.55 | Sapph | I wasn't able to fix it, let me know if you figure something out |
| 23:39.56 | Coolflip | did you figure out a fix? |
| 23:40.00 | Coolflip | meh |
| 23:40.06 | Sapph | I stopped trying because somehow I broke the pylon unit |
| 23:40.10 | Sapph | and gave up |
| 23:40.16 | Coolflip | hah |
| 23:40.25 | Dinoo | hmmm |
| 23:40.29 | Coolflip | well, as long as im here |
| 23:40.29 | Dinoo | My leaderboard doesn't updaet :( |
| 23:40.41 | Coolflip | theres a tut on the forums on updating it |
| 23:40.45 | Coolflip | ill grab the link |
| 23:41.09 | ShiftKalicompton | how do you add projectiles for attacks? and are there things you can do to give a ghost the look of a zealot attack? |
| 23:41.10 | Dinoo | for leaderboards ? |
| 23:41.26 | Dustin | God damnit |
| 23:41.28 | Sapph | Coolflip, I'm pretty sure it has to do with the "UpgradeToPlanetaryFortress" (or whatever) actor that is specified by the ability |
| 23:41.30 | Dustin | These angles are pissing me off |
| 23:41.37 | Sapph | I just didn't figure out how to do something useful with that information |
| 23:42.07 | Coolflip | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401904429&sid=5000 |
| 23:42.11 | Coolflip | for updating leaderboard |
| 23:42.56 | Dinoo | Cool, thanks :) |
| 23:43.03 | Coolflip | anyways..............can i get some trigger help from someone |
| 23:43.08 | dorkass | anyone know how to compare all allies of a player in a condition? Like only update score if player != ally of owner of (triggering unit) |
| 23:43.10 | Sapph | trigger help I can probably do |
| 23:43.11 | Sapph | what's up |
| 23:43.16 | Coolflip | well |
| 23:43.20 | Coolflip | im making a footmen map |
| 23:43.30 | Coolflip | and need the spawn to only work if i have a certain building |
| 23:43.41 | Coolflip | i just cant find out how to make a comparison for if i have a certain building |
| 23:44.02 | dorkass | you could set the spawn point to be the building |
| 23:44.12 | Coolflip | the what? |
| 23:44.16 | Coolflip | well |
| 23:44.20 | dorkass | when you set a spawn action, you can choose a specific unit as the spawn location in values |
| 23:44.22 | Coolflip | thats what im trying to figure out i think |
| 23:44.29 | Coolflip | yea |
| 23:44.41 | Coolflip | right now its set to like "spawn at the point of this unit facing this angle" |
| 23:44.46 | dorkass | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.48 | ShiftKalicompton | hey terex you still around? |
| 23:44.48 | dorkass | for example |
| 23:44.57 | Coolflip | let me get my current trigger |
| 23:45.07 | Coolflip | it is that i think |
| 23:45.19 | Coolflip | but it doesnt stop spawning them when the unit goes away |
| 23:45.20 | Wolf | I got the SCV sorted out =] |
| 23:45.31 | dorkass | oh |
| 23:45.59 | Wolf | I basically hadnt edited the command card properly and hadnt told it to use the correct ability =] |
| 23:46.13 | Coolflip | yea |
| 23:46.18 | Coolflip | that command card confused me at first |
| 23:46.31 | Coolflip | gota set the button for the ability now, cant just give them the ability :( |
| 23:46.54 | Dinoo | meh |
| 23:46.56 | dorkass | there's a 'if unit is alive' condition |
| 23:46.56 | NegativeFeedback | how did you tell it to use the correct ability? |
| 23:47.02 | ShadowTiger | okay you can get my test map here http://shadowtiger.com/files/Test.zip |
| 23:47.03 | NegativeFeedback | wolf |
| 23:47.03 | Dinoo | I got the same thing as your link but the leaderboard never updates :/ |
| 23:47.32 | Coolflip | just do like "Every 5 seconds" as the event |
| 23:47.41 | ShadowTiger | liq3 rejoice! |
| 23:47.44 | Coolflip | and update leaderboards in the action |
| 23:47.46 | liq3 | ! |
| 23:47.57 | ShadowTiger | the unit that has the upgrades is "tower 3" |
| 23:48.07 | ShadowTiger | you can follow the chain from there |
| 23:48.11 | liq3 | wut? |
| 23:48.26 | Coolflip | so, right now my trigger is this |
| 23:48.28 | DeadPixel | Sapph: Got it to change the building has all of the properties of the new building but the model didn't change even though I have an actor with a different model assigned to it. Hmm |
| 23:48.31 | Coolflip | Command Center 2 |
| 23:48.31 | Dinoo | ha, works now |
| 23:48.32 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.32 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.32 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.32 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.32 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.32 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.33 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.38 | Dinoo | I missed a line ^^ |
| 23:48.47 | Sapph | DeadPixel: craziness |
| 23:48.56 | Coolflip | my model doesnt switch either |
| 23:49.14 | Wolf | On the card, there where 4 dropdown boxes. I had to use the third to select an ability (in this case to build a modified SCV), and the 4th for the actual command |
| 23:49.25 | liq3 | ShadowTiger: that doesn't help at all. |
| 23:49.35 | ShadowTiger | why |
| 23:49.44 | liq3 | why WOULD it help? -____- |
| 23:49.50 | ShiftKalicompton | hey its possible to make a unit a "tank" if you were to try and make RP dungeons |
| 23:49.52 | ShadowTiger | I dont understand |
| 23:50.06 | Coolflip | make it have more hp |
| 23:50.08 | ShadowTiger | You wanted an example of multiple upgrades, up to 255 |
| 23:50.10 | Sapph | siege tank, that's an idea |
| 23:50.12 | ShadowTiger | without alot of work |
| 23:50.12 | Skizot | high hp and armor = tank |
| 23:50.15 | ShiftKalicompton | default ui uses priority to choose what to attack, you wouldnt have threat problems |
| 23:50.19 | Sapph | a unit that transforms to and from a different unit |
| 23:50.24 | liq3 | ShadowTiger: I've tried. I've been stumped for 5+ hours. |
| 23:50.29 | ShadowTiger | well i just did it |
| 23:50.41 | liq3 | So share it. |
| 23:50.49 | ShadowTiger | you cant change the cost or the upgrade time to increase per upgrade |
| 23:50.53 | ShiftKalicompton | Combat - Attack Target Priority |
| 23:51.01 | Mojache | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/robsc2 |
| 23:51.09 | Mojache | if anyone wants to see what im working on real quick |
| 23:51.21 | Coolflip | ill take a peek |
| 23:51.48 | Coolflip | be louder |
| 23:51.55 | dorkass | anyone know how to compare to find like if triggering player is an ally of the killed unit, or something like that |
| 23:51.57 | Inschato | play my map on your stream lololol. >_> |
| 23:52.01 | shmen | ShadowTiger: yeah you can |
| 23:52.54 | Coolflip | HAH |
| 23:53.17 | Inschato | It's like GTA2 >;o |
| 23:53.26 | Coolflip | this shits insane |
| 23:53.29 | Gallin | Can anyone explain to me how to create a uberlisk like unit in the data editor? |
| 23:54.06 | dorkass | Gallin: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/creating-your/ |
| 23:54.13 | Dustin | Jesus fucking christ this ANGLES |
| 23:54.15 | Dustin | ARGGG |
| 23:54.16 | Coolflip | holy fuck this shits insane |
| 23:54.38 | NoRoo | Hey does this thing have any built in hashing functions or is that something I should implement myself? |
| 23:54.46 | ANdyBear22 | Dorkass, I think I can help you, start a convo with me, I don't know how ^_^ |
| 23:55.08 | Gralamin | NoRoo: I think you need to hash yourself. |
| 23:55.17 | Gallin | dorkass thats for the uberlisk? |
| 23:56.23 | Crom | ok well |
| 23:56.27 | Crom | i just gotta say something |
| 23:56.44 | Wolf | How hard would it be to create a 'World of Starcraft' in the editor i wonder... |
| 23:56.50 | ShadowTiger | shmen how do you do it |
| 23:56.51 | Mojache | yeah |
| 23:56.52 | Coolflip | dude |
| 23:56.53 | Mojache | its gonna be sweet |
| 23:56.54 | Mojache | :) |
| 23:56.54 | Coolflip | that was insane |
| 23:56.57 | Crom | the Data Editor is making my life hard....... |
| 23:57.04 | Crom | seriously |
| 23:57.07 | Coolflip | you should make heroes for my footmen frenzy map xD |
| 23:57.08 | ShadowTiger | yeah that looks awesome mojache |
| 23:57.13 | Wolf | you'll gte used to it |
| 23:57.18 | Inschato | Rrrrrandomiz oh this gun sucks! >:D |
| 23:57.18 | Crom | well, here's the deal |
| 23:57.20 | NoRoo | Gralamin: thanks |
| 23:57.51 | Crom | i duplicated a Missile Turret because i wanted another unit like it but one that hits ground |
| 23:57.57 | shmen | liq3: any progress? |
| 23:58.02 | liq3 | shmen: hang on. |
| 23:58.03 | Crom | duplicated everything |
| 23:58.12 | Mojache | you move with |
| 23:58.13 | Mojache | WASD |
| 23:58.19 | Mojache | left click is main fire |
| 23:58.22 | Mojache | right click is alt fire |
| 23:58.27 | Mojache | every gun has two different abilities |
| 23:58.34 | Terex | Ah, I love the weapon change feature. It allows to introduce firebats in 3 seconds. |
| 23:58.35 | Crom | but appearantly not everything gets duplicated, as the weapon has its own actors inside? representing missile graphics? |
| 23:58.36 | Mojache | planning on either 2 or 4 player coop much like Smash TV |
| 23:58.46 | shmen | awesome |
| 23:58.49 | Mojache | the items drop off dudes and we might have a shop where you can buy guns |
| 23:58.57 | NegativeFeedback | i miss haunted mansion from starcraft |
| 23:58.57 | ShadowTiger | how do you make it so that the cost/upgrade timer increases for higher level upgrades? |
| 23:59.00 | Mojache | guns are designed to have about 10 seconds of ammo with the exception of the default |
| 23:59.02 | NegativeFeedback | i mean warcraft |
| 23:59.08 | Crom | ... |
| 23:59.13 | Terex | graphics should be added separately |
