| 00:14.45 | Alevice_Work | So, startopia recreation? |
| 00:24.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster valkatwork (~stephen@99.199.159.82) |
| 00:25.36 | JademusSreg | Let's just emulate everything so we'll never ever need to play any other game again. |
| 00:25.55 | Alevice_Work | Aye |
| 00:26.01 | Alevice_Work | Except Pathologic |
| 00:26.24 | Alevice_Work | But I hope on time I get to see a mod with the quality of fallout or planescape torment |
| 00:29.50 | valkatwork | Is the beta currently offline? I see that battle.net accounts are. |
| 00:31.01 | Alevice_Work | i hope not |
| 00:33.25 | Arthas- | patchtime? |
| 00:33.34 | valkatwork | im wondering if they are preparing for their "big april patch" |
| 00:33.43 | valkatwork | hoping really |
| 00:33.52 | valkatwork | maybe its a bit of a reach |
| 00:34.02 | valkatwork | but y'know |
| 00:35.49 | Alevice_Work | wlel, homestuck got a huge update today |
| 00:35.53 | Alevice_Work | who knows maybe sc2 too |
| 00:36.32 | Alevice_Work | g2g |
| 00:36.32 | Alevice_Work | ltr |
| 00:38.15 | JademusSreg | Perhaps they're preparing battle.net to support map publishing data. |
| 00:38.55 | Arthas- | JademusSreg you dont think thats pushing your expectations a lil bit too high :p |
| 00:39.43 | JademusSreg | No, I say it half-jokingly. |
| 00:39.51 | JademusSreg | I have zero expectation. |
| 00:40.08 | Arthas- | thats more like it |
| 00:40.35 | Arthas- | also, ive decided its impossible to have stacked items! :p |
| 00:40.42 | JademusSreg | How so? |
| 00:41.40 | Truhan | new piece of Cataclysm posted |
| 00:43.02 | Arthas- | JademusSreg ive got no clue on how to do it :p |
| 00:43.03 | JademusSreg | Oh? |
| 00:43.10 | JademusSreg | @Truhan |
| 00:43.45 | Arthas- | the most similar implemented feature so far is probably the creep spore thingie |
| 00:43.50 | JademusSreg | Then we cannot be certain it is impossible, but we can be certain we do not know if it is possible. |
| 00:44.09 | Truhan | yeah |
| 00:44.11 | Arthas- | hahaha |
| 00:44.23 | Truhan | Mount Hyjal will be a post-Northrend starting zone |
| 00:44.24 | Arthas- | I seriously doubt its impossible |
| 00:44.29 | Truhan | 78 - 82 |
| 00:44.32 | Arthas- | but i cant find a way to do it |
| 00:45.16 | JademusSreg | Now that sounds factually accurate. =) |
| 00:45.23 | Arthas- | ^^ |
| 00:45.28 | valkatwork | oops i must be in #WoWmapster how'd i get here? |
| 00:46.00 | Truhan | :< |
| 00:46.08 | Arthas- | found it! |
| 00:46.08 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyEn53T8WtQ |
| 00:46.10 | Arthas- | awesome clip |
| 00:46.12 | Arthas- | I love it |
| 00:46.15 | Truhan | nothing for me to do while SC2 forums are bugged |
| 00:47.33 | Arthas- | they are prolly patching |
| 00:47.39 | Arthas- | patchthread is gone from the boards |
| 00:47.48 | Arthas- | the ones with an index anyway |
| 00:47.58 | valkatwork | interesting |
| 00:48.14 | Arthas- | wait what |
| 00:48.21 | valkatwork | what? |
| 00:48.33 | Arthas- | nvm |
| 00:48.39 | Arthas- | firefox didnt update page propery |
| 00:48.53 | valkatwork | so the threads for patches are still there? |
| 00:48.56 | Arthas- | yup |
| 00:49.03 | valkatwork | lolz |
| 00:49.04 | Arthas- | now watch awesome videoclip :p |
| 00:49.07 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyEn53T8WtQ |
| 00:49.15 | valkatwork | what is it of? |
| 00:49.16 | valkatwork | im at work |
| 00:49.17 | Truhan | watching now |
| 00:49.21 | Truhan | SC2 |
| 00:50.16 | Arthas- | zelda a link to the past music, awesome touch |
| 00:50.32 | Arthas- | if that was mine i wouldve submitted that to video contest straight away :p |
| 00:50.49 | Arthas- | perhaps w some custom camera angels |
| 00:51.12 | Arthas- | thatll teach the zerg to leave a roach behind :p |
| 00:51.17 | Truhan | LOL win |
| 00:51.37 | Truhan | LoZ |
| 00:51.38 | Arthas- | i dont normally get amused by replays but damn |
| 00:51.42 | Truhan | A Link to the Past music |
| 00:51.51 | Truhan | is so fucking epic |
| 00:51.55 | Arthas- | yup :) |
| 00:52.17 | Arthas- | first thing ima try w editor is make some sort of zelda-ish map |
| 00:52.35 | Arthas- | same aoa w nice scrolling screens :o |
| 00:53.18 | Truhan | I REALLY wanna join you |
| 00:53.26 | Truhan | Legend of Zelda WC3 map |
| 00:53.34 | Truhan | was one of my favorites |
| 00:53.39 | Truhan | back on RoC too |
| 00:53.57 | Truhan | the builders made for some GREAT RP |
| 00:54.15 | Truhan | I used to make mah kingdom around the ranch |
| 00:54.26 | Arthas- | never played it |
| 00:54.36 | Arthas- | mostly it was mauls |
| 00:54.38 | Arthas- | pokertd |
| 00:54.42 | Arthas- | well |
| 00:54.44 | Arthas- | td |
| 00:54.51 | Arthas- | and everything w nude pics |
| 00:54.52 | Arthas- | :D |
| 00:55.07 | Truhan | <3 |
| 00:55.14 | Arthas- | right, and normal AT games :p |
| 00:55.16 | Truhan | that can be our little secret |
| 00:55.23 | Truhan | nude Zelda pics |
| 00:55.27 | Arthas- | lol :D |
| 00:55.29 | Truhan | or some crap |
| 00:55.37 | Truhan | I always failed at laddar |
| 00:55.43 | Arthas- | so did I |
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| 00:55.50 | Arthas- | when they nerfed lich ulti |
| 00:55.55 | Truhan | I've been a custom map man since the day I logg on Bnet |
| 00:55.55 | Arthas- | death and decay :D |
| 00:55.59 | Arthas- | I remember in early wc3 beta |
| 00:56.12 | Arthas- | you could destroy an enemy base solo w lich + d&d :p |
| 00:56.20 | Truhan | that |
| 00:56.28 | Truhan | is the most beautiful thing I have ever heard |
| 00:56.44 | Arthas- | i miss warbucket :( |
| 00:57.18 | Truhan | I miss Final Fantasy Open RPG |
| 00:57.28 | Arthas- | right |
| 00:57.31 | Arthas- | reminds me |
| 00:57.39 | Truhan | I miss the AoS maps with secret characters :< |
| 00:57.39 | Arthas- | Elements RPG for StarCraft 1 |
| 00:57.44 | Arthas- | Best fucking RPG map ever made |
| 00:57.48 | Truhan | O.o |
| 00:57.55 | Arthas- | For any game |
| 00:57.56 | Truhan | SC1 has save/load? |
| 00:57.59 | Arthas- | nah |
| 00:58.01 | Arthas- | it was multi |
| 00:58.08 | Arthas- | you picked one of the four elements |
| 00:58.13 | Truhan | I remember an elements RPG for WC3 |
| 00:58.17 | Truhan | it had a save/load |
| 00:58.21 | Truhan | yeah |
| 00:58.28 | Arthas- | i know there was a copy of that rpg for wc3 |
| 00:58.32 | Arthas- | although i never saw a finished one |
| 00:58.41 | Truhan | nah, it was never finished |
| 00:58.42 | Arthas- | ima remake it for sc2 |
| 00:58.58 | Arthas- | http://sc.nibbits.com/maps/view/26767/elements-rpg-lw-modfinal |
| 00:59.02 | Arthas- | thats the map im talking about |
| 00:59.03 | Truhan | don't you think you're putting too much on your plate? |
| 00:59.18 | Arthas- | elements remake aint priority :p |
| 00:59.33 | Arthas- | only zelda ish map is as I might get to use some decently advanced features |
| 00:59.33 | Truhan | same for Zelda? |
| 00:59.42 | Truhan | lool |
| 00:59.54 | Truhan | will it be save/load? SP campaign? |
| 00:59.59 | Arthas- | for zelda |
| 01:00.01 | Arthas- | ya |
| 01:00.05 | Arthas- | that was the plan |
| 01:00.17 | Truhan | which one, those are two conflicting options |
| 01:00.24 | Arthas- | what |
| 01:00.32 | Arthas- | one zelda-ish map for SP |
| 01:00.33 | Truhan | single player campaign or save/load |
| 01:00.37 | Truhan | okies |
| 01:00.40 | Arthas- | oooh |
| 01:00.51 | Arthas- | prolly a sp campaign w several maps |
| 01:01.01 | Truhan | cool cool |
| 01:01.03 | Arthas- | if i can get it to work as i want |
| 01:01.44 | Truhan | pay map? |
| 01:02.10 | Arthas- | doubt ill ever make a paymap |
| 01:02.22 | Arthas- | i more or less do this stuff for fun / stimulation :p |
| 01:02.25 | Truhan | I think I'm in love with you, Lich King |
| 01:02.32 | Arthas- | lol |
| 01:03.25 | Truhan | don't let the republicans trick you into thinking making free maps makes you a socialist |
| 01:03.29 | Truhan | it makes you a commie |
| 01:03.32 | Truhan | big difference |
| 01:03.47 | Arthas- | so from socialist to commie |
| 01:03.49 | Arthas- | a step down |
| 01:03.50 | Arthas- | :p |
| 01:03.57 | Arthas- | or up hmmmmm |
| 01:04.05 | Truhan | nazis were socialists |
| 01:04.11 | Truhan | USSR were commies |
| 01:04.50 | Arthas- | a step down then |
| 01:04.51 | Arthas- | :p |
| 01:05.07 | Truhan | lol |
| 01:05.39 | Arthas- | one simply has to pick the lesser of two evils |
| 01:05.43 | Arthas- | eu vs us |
| 01:05.44 | Arthas- | :p |
| 01:05.52 | Arthas- | btw where is my norwegian pal |
| 01:06.46 | Arthas- | witchsong! |
| 01:06.50 | Arthas- | @seen witchsong |
| 01:06.57 | Arthas- | .... |
| 01:07.01 | Arthas- | !seen Witchsong |
| 01:07.07 | Arthas- | crapassbot |
| 01:07.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ~seen witchsong |
| 01:07.43 | purl | witchsong <noreply@26.168.202.84.customer.cdi.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 10h 14m 35s ago, saying: 'Does anyone here got the VS2010 Professional ISO from MSDN?'. |
| 01:07.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ~fail Arthas- |
| 01:07.52 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Arthas-. I hate you because you fail. |
| 01:08.04 | Arthas- | ~fail purl |
| 01:08.05 | purl | You suck at everything in life, purl. I hate you because you fail. |
| 01:08.17 | Arthas- | Hmm, normally they wont let you use their own names |
| 01:09.43 | Arthas- | also ty |
| 01:09.53 | Truhan | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24261189290&sid=5000 |
| 01:10.33 | Arthas- | should be more like 90% |
| 01:11.37 | Truhan | I sent this link |
| 01:11.48 | Truhan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_lie_with_statistics |
| 01:12.32 | Arthas- | wasnt statistics invented for the purpose of lying w numbers :p |
| 01:12.50 | Truhan | *gasp* how did you know??? |
| 01:13.10 | Arthas- | Terrans only win 40% of the time now. - My first thought is, not 33% :p |
| 01:13.33 | Truhan | exactly |
| 01:14.00 | Truhan | he could have worded it better, if he wanted to actually DO something |
| 01:14.04 | Truhan | i.e. |
| 01:14.20 | Truhan | Terran LOSE OVER 60% of the time |
| 01:15.15 | Arthas- | or stop using %, provide raw data which id still ignore |
| 01:15.18 | Arthas- | ^^ |
| 01:15.43 | Truhan | there was that top 20 |
| 01:15.48 | Truhan | but that was fuckin weird |
| 01:16.11 | Truhan | the top 20, 66% of wins are terran, toss, zerg, and random for some reason o.O |
| 01:16.22 | Truhan | 66% each |
| 01:16.26 | Truhan | how in the fuck |
| 01:16.28 | Truhan | is beyond me |
| 01:16.51 | Truhan | but that's a great example of how to lie with statistics |
| 01:16.59 | Truhan | you take numbers |
| 01:17.04 | Truhan | rework them, reword them |
| 01:17.12 | Truhan | until it fits what you want people to think |
| 01:17.33 | Truhan | then present what you want them to think as fact with "evidence" |
| 01:18.01 | Truhan | numbers are hard (giggity) to argue with because they aren't debatable |
| 01:18.13 | Truhan | 2 is 2 and I don't give a fuck where you live |
| 01:18.14 | JademusSreg | Regardless of which race option you choose, you will win a mere 264% of the time. |
| 01:18.15 | Arthas- | 70% claim statistics are worse than hitler |
| 01:18.26 | Arthas- | nao |
| 01:18.30 | Arthas- | help me find warbucket comic :( |
| 01:18.43 | JademusSreg | Did you check the warcloset? |
| 01:18.55 | Arthas- | warcloset? |
| 01:19.11 | JademusSreg | Next to the warmop and warbroom. |
| 01:19.31 | Arthas- | what |
| 01:19.32 | Arthas- | :O |
| 01:20.26 | Jerub | Truhan: uh, an FAQ I read last week said it was basically 50% accross the racial divides. |
| 01:21.48 | Truhan | gimme gimme gimme |
| 01:23.16 | Arthas- | im so tired right now |
| 01:23.28 | Arthas- | didnt even think over jades reply |
| 01:23.34 | Arthas- | school in 5h, I need to sleep :p |
| 01:23.40 | Arthas- | night people |
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| 01:25.16 | Truhan | nighht |
| 01:27.15 | gregv21 | I made a item shop that can be constructed by a SCV. |
| 01:28.20 | valkatwork | rad! |
| 01:28.27 | valkatwork | any screenshots? :) |
| 01:31.39 | Truhan | yeah |
| 01:32.12 | Truhan | send screenshots before people start getting naked |
| 01:32.21 | Truhan | you won't like me when I'm naked |
| 01:35.57 | gregv21 | i made the items train as units |
| 01:36.27 | gregv21 | uploading |
| 01:38.10 | gregv21 | http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad336/gregv21/NewTextDocument2.jpg |
| 01:39.39 | Arthas- | found the comic strip i was looking for http://web.archive.org/web/20030406032945/http://www.warbucket.com/comics/11.gif |
| 01:40.27 | Arthas- | and this one http://web.archive.org/web/20031002200811/http://www.warbucket.com/comics/22.gif |
| 01:40.32 | Arthas- | both are brilliant |
| 01:41.14 | Arthas- | first more or less explains the UD awesomeness in early wc3 |
| 01:41.37 | Truhan | yesssssssssssssss |
| 01:41.47 | Arthas- | http://web.archive.org/web/20031002200811/www.warbucket.com/comic.php?id=22 |
| 01:41.49 | Arthas- | some works, some dont |
| 01:42.05 | Arthas- | now bed again before I save every comic i can tomorrow |
| 01:42.05 | Truhan | undead are still awesome in RoC |
| 01:42.17 | Truhan | necros and citadels are riggggggged |
| 01:44.56 | gregv21 | oh |
| 01:45.50 | gregv21 | lol |
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| 01:48.26 | valkatwork | hello self |
| 01:48.30 | valkrial | hi there |
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| 01:59.10 | gregv21 | slaps gregv21 around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:59.19 | gregv21 | slaps gregv21 around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:59.47 | gregv21 | hi |
| 02:16.31 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/foxtrot/. FOXTROT. Rizaun (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
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| 02:17.12 | iggary|away | yo |
| 02:17.38 | Iggyhopper | identify |
| 02:17.42 | Iggyhopper | boobs |
| 02:25.02 | nicoli_s | anyone seen sho1dak around? |
| 02:25.05 | nicoli_s | @seen |
| 02:25.10 | nicoli_s | damn that bot |
| 02:25.13 | nicoli_s | why doesnt it work! |
| 02:25.18 | Iggyhopper | ~seen sho1dak |
| 02:25.20 | purl | Iggyhopper: i haven't seen 'sho1dak' |
| 02:25.23 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 02:25.33 | Iggyhopper | nope |
| 02:26.58 | nicoli_s | damn |
| 02:27.18 | nicoli_s | got some cool stuff in with MWE, almost to the point where it can create new elements |
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| 02:28.38 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 02:30.34 | Iggyhopper | cool |
| 02:30.40 | Iggyhopper | DAMN' |
| 02:30.56 | nicoli_s | i wish i had some spare time this weekend, id get in handling of item data |
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| 02:39.12 | Dustin|Work | Weeee |
| 02:39.15 | Dustin|Work | Messing with items now |
| 02:39.35 | Iggyhopper | I wish I had pants. |
| 02:46.05 | nicoli_s | youll get there one day Iggyhopper |
| 02:49.58 | nicoli_s | wow,didnt realize you could disable/enable entire classes of behaviors |
| 02:50.37 | Iggyhopper | Yes you can. |
| 02:50.50 | Iggyhopper | I realized it before you, so haha. |
| 02:51.20 | Iggyhopper | I'm going to download CS3 to my computer now. |
| 02:51.33 | Technetium | damn |
| 02:51.45 | Iggyhopper | Technetium: What? |
| 02:52.00 | Technetium | these flags don't make sense |
| 02:52.22 | Iggyhopper | What are the name of the flags? Also, some of them might be strictly for AI. |
| 02:52.54 | Technetium | they're in the terrain files |
| 02:53.15 | Technetium | and they seriously don't make sense when I color map them on the 3d terrain |
| 03:01.27 | Technetium | http://i43.tinypic.com/nv2v7t.jpg |
| 03:01.38 | Technetium | http://i43.tinypic.com/v6ntyr.jpg |
| 03:01.42 | Technetium | the fuck |
| 03:01.51 | Sixen | What's wrong with it? That's sexy. |
| 03:01.58 | Technetium | the flags |
| 03:02.05 | Technetium | don't make sense when I color map them |
| 03:02.34 | Sixen | You mean, what each color signifies? |
| 03:02.39 | Technetium | yes |
| 03:02.46 | Technetium | the first one is cliff height |
| 03:02.56 | Technetium | the second one is the unknow flags |
| 03:04.10 | Technetium | it's fun to fly around... I need to add rotation |
| 03:04.55 | Sixen | Brown is unpassable terrain~ |
| 03:05.00 | Technetium | makes it real easy to visualize the data |
| 03:05.12 | Technetium | the first pic is known |
| 03:05.16 | Technetium | the second is wtf |
| 03:05.23 | Technetium | it's the same map |
| 03:05.27 | Sixen | ah |
| 03:06.03 | Iggyhopper | Is it water? |
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| 03:06.25 | Iggyhopper | Can it blend? |
| 03:07.05 | Technetium | that's twilight fortress =P |
| 03:07.24 | Technetium | and each value is attacked to a vetrex |
| 03:07.37 | Technetium | attached* |
| 03:13.23 | Technetium | Grum.. you here? |
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| 03:26.50 | Bifuu | ah mah gawd im home finally |
| 03:27.17 | nicoli_s | bring me some pizza i hope? |
| 03:28.20 | davidcramer | me too |
| 03:28.30 | Sixen | I want pizza. |
| 03:28.41 | davidcramer | nicoli_s: I'm considering making it possible for Nibbits to output map diffs |
| 03:28.47 | davidcramer | mostly so I can see what's changing on Blizzard's maps |
| 03:29.15 | Bifuu | I smell like a fucking pizza |
| 03:29.19 | Sixen | lol |
| 03:29.31 | Sixen | That'd be cool, zeeg. |
| 03:29.43 | Sixen | Especially since they usually change with every other patch or so. |
| 03:29.46 | davidcramer | ya |
| 03:29.54 | davidcramer | its bugging me, I'm concerned version numbers are changing but the map isnt |
| 03:29.58 | davidcramer | which means the db would end up with TONS of dupes |
| 03:30.16 | nicoli_s | gl |
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| 03:33.13 | Bifuu | So i was talking to people at work about my road trip i want to go on in the summer and i mentioned it would be to Universal Studios or Disney World, and now like all the girls at work are like "OMG I WANNAGO FOR THE HARRY POTTER STUFF OMGOMGOMGOMG" |
| 03:34.29 | Sixen | Girls are fun. |
| 03:35.24 | davidcramer | Universal Studios was fun in LA |
| 03:35.28 | davidcramer | the Waterworld thing was awesome |
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| 03:43.48 | Bifuu | yeah ive been to Hollywood |
| 03:43.53 | Bifuu | but never to Orlando |
| 03:44.10 | Bifuu | and yeah the Waterworld thing was tight (ASSUMING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE STUNT SHOW) |
| 03:44.16 | Bifuu | damn caps |
| 03:45.00 | Tehwildcard | I live pretty close to orlando |
| 03:45.44 | Iggyhopper | davidcramer: Awesome. |
| 03:45.57 | Iggyhopper | Map diffs, like how? |
| 03:46.11 | davidcramer | Iggyhopper: extract all files, run a diff on the set of them |
| 03:46.19 | davidcramer | something like a trac changeset diff |
| 04:12.27 | Iggyhopper | i see |
| 04:12.34 | Alevice | damn, havent been able to decipher neither powerup, not pawn nor loot |
| 04:12.36 | Alevice | fuck |
| 04:12.38 | Iggyhopper | what if there is terrain changes, no cliff? |
| 04:12.54 | Iggyhopper | I mean,I don't know how the data works as much as you guys. |
| 04:13.18 | Iggyhopper | Does the XML contain any data about terrrain blocks or squares? |
| 04:15.25 | Iggyhopper | davidcramer |
| 04:15.35 | Iggyhopper | is your name David? David is a dumd name. |
| 04:15.42 | Iggyhopper | Greg is a better name then David. |
| 04:15.53 | JademusSreg | Hihi Levi. |
| 04:16.34 | davidcramer | lol |
| 04:16.43 | davidcramer | no my name is Nicoli |
| 04:16.46 | davidcramer | i just like this nickname |
| 04:20.49 | Iggyhopper | davidcramer: waaaaaaatg? |
| 04:20.52 | Iggyhopper | fag |
| 04:21.02 | davidisfagt | loool |
| 04:21.06 | davidisfagt | lool |
| 04:21.23 | Iggyhopper | Alevice |
| 04:21.42 | davidcramer | lol |
| 04:22.34 | Alevice | hihi srego |
| 04:22.38 | Alevice | yes, Iggyhopper? |
| 04:23.02 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 04:23.18 | JademusSreg | I sent a message to Ricky, inquiring about irc whatnots. |
| 04:23.22 | Bifuu | http://www.futilitycloset.com/2009/05/08/better-late/ |
| 04:23.32 | Iggyhopper | Restaring computer... |
| 04:23.56 | JademusSreg | I hope there is some channel where we can discuss stuff without PMs or through game chat. |
| 04:24.23 | JademusSreg | It does strike me as odd that CC wouldn't have an irc channel. |
| 04:24.33 | Iggyhopper | CC? |
| 04:24.40 | JademusSreg | Campaign Creations |
| 04:24.44 | Iggyhopper | ooo |
| 04:24.50 | Iggyhopper | Yeah well they suck. |
| 04:24.51 | JademusSreg | Ricky kicked my ass several times in a row on SC2. |
| 04:25.01 | Iggyhopper | ok wel restarting compouter relaly, now. |
| 04:25.06 | JademusSreg | Bah, those are my roots. |
| 04:26.14 | Alevice | heh |
| 04:26.33 | Alevice | I guess i need some neutral units spawned :( |
| 04:27.40 | JademusSreg | Oh dear. |
| 04:27.44 | JademusSreg | That sounds serious. |
| 04:27.59 | JademusSreg | Do they have a treatment for that? |
| 04:29.14 | Alevice | yes, debug |
| 04:37.21 | JademusSreg | Modern medications cannot have such explicit names; for some reason pharmacutical companies think it's a lovely idea to name their products as though they were an aromatic bouquet of beneficence. |
| 04:38.01 | JademusSreg | "Having trouble with your computer? You're not alone. Millions of people around the world suffer with you. But now there's help." |
| 04:39.11 | Jerub | JademusSreg: are you talking about north american pharma? |
| 04:39.28 | Jerub | because in most countries you don't get medicine advertised on TV. being illegal to do so and everything.. |
| 04:39.52 | JademusSreg | "Presenting Deagra" |
| 04:39.55 | JademusSreg | And yes. |
| 04:40.48 | Bifuu | yay i get Visual studio 2010 |
| 04:40.52 | Bifuu | <3 being in school |
| 04:41.47 | JademusSreg | Congratulation. =) |
| 04:42.57 | davidcramer | Bifuu: MSDNAA? |
| 04:44.02 | Bifuu | dreamspark |
| 04:44.23 | Bifuu | my school is too cheap for msndaa =/ |
| 04:44.42 | Bifuu | msdnaa* or w/e |
| 04:45.42 | davidcramer | interesting |
| 04:47.19 | Bifuu | well they might get it next semester maybe |
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| 05:10.08 | Iggyhopper | Hello. |
| 05:11.15 | Bifuu | yo |
| 05:11.29 | Iggyhopper | I need a link to the list of WoW icons. |
| 05:11.39 | Iggyhopper | It was in wowwiki.com but I can't find the whole list. |
| 05:11.56 | nicoli_s | hey question, anyone know how i would cast a List<Something> so that i could call .clear on it? |
| 05:12.06 | nicoli_s | but like the <something> can differ |
| 05:12.11 | Iggyhopper | .clear? |
| 05:12.14 | Iggyhopper | List<T>? |
| 05:12.18 | Iggyhopper | umm |
| 05:12.31 | Iggyhopper | I don't know. |
| 05:12.51 | Iggyhopper | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/Images Found it. |
| 05:13.21 | nicoli_s | you cant cast something as list<T> |
| 05:13.34 | Iggyhopper | <list[type]> |
| 05:13.41 | Iggyhopper | List<[type]> |
| 05:13.44 | Iggyhopper | whatever |
| 05:14.07 | Iggyhopper | nicoli_s: http://www.google.com/search?q=List+%22.clear%22 |
| 05:14.56 | nicoli_s | Iggyhopper: the issue is im doing this in an extension method for object, so i cant explicitly put the generic class in <> |
| 05:15.09 | Iggyhopper | o |
| 05:16.48 | nicoli_s | ill just use some reflection hackiness to get this to work |
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| 05:18.11 | Bifuu | Wait what are you trying to do? |
| 05:19.09 | nicoli_s | im trying to iterate over the properties of an object, find ones that are lists, and clear them |
| 05:19.51 | nicoli_s | its for the editor, for when we are reparsing xml for the gamedata entries, we have to clear all the arrays or they will have dupe info |
| 05:20.11 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 05:20.35 | nicoli_s | im almost done with it |
| 05:20.39 | Grum | [05:13:29] <Technetium> Grum.. you here? <-- i am now |
| 05:20.47 | nicoli_s | it uses reflection to do the calling which is hacky but oh well |
| 05:23.00 | Bifuu | i dunno how i would even be able to tell if it was a list in order to even try to clear it lol |
| 05:26.14 | Alevice | g2g |
| 05:26.15 | Alevice | ltr |
| 05:26.37 | nicoli_s | man this is hacky |
| 05:26.46 | nicoli_s | but i fucking love reflection |
| 05:27.15 | nicoli_s | its like, cant convince the language you can cast this object to this class and call its function? just search its type for the method and call it that way |
| 05:27.27 | Bifuu | lol |
| 05:27.49 | Bifuu | its like, you dont know what nicoli_s is talking about but ill just say lol to seem like i agree |
| 05:28.15 | Grum | Technetium: if you are talking about t3HeightMap the last USHORT in each block on TwilightFortress, then you are reading the file wrong, that looks ok for me |
| 05:37.55 | Iggyhopper | Zeratul has blink. |
| 05:39.00 | Iggyhopper | Zeratul also has an ability called "phasemine" |
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| 05:40.27 | Iggyhopper | Zerg have an upgrade for toxic creep. |
| 05:46.12 | Iggyhopper | nooo |
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| 05:49.11 | Nexuapex | Sixen: was that you I just played in 2v2? |
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| 06:03.45 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 06:04.46 | nicoli_s | damnit where the hell is sholdak at |
| 06:07.50 | Iggyhopper | http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5224/screenshot001b.jpg |
| 06:07.53 | Iggyhopper | nicoli_s |
| 06:08.26 | Bifuu | That probe is a WoW probe! |
| 06:08.43 | Iggyhopper | icon fits perfectly |
| 06:08.53 | Iggyhopper | not exactly perfect in "style" |
| 06:08.57 | Iggyhopper | but perfect in size |
| 06:09.53 | nicoli_s | sweet Iggyhopper |
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| 06:15.53 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/uberlisk-artwork/ |
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| 06:16.56 | vjeux | New Announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 06:18.29 | Bifuu | Repo beat you to the punch =P |
| 06:18.45 | vjeux | sometimes Repo is sleeping ... :p |
| 06:18.53 | vjeux | and I like to spam, muhahahah |
| 06:20.18 | Bifuu | lol |
| 06:21.32 | Bifuu | wtf is F# |
| 06:21.50 | vjeux | it's ocaml in .net |
| 06:22.25 | Bifuu | *Zoom over my head* |
| 06:22.55 | Bifuu | i just installed 2010 for Visual studio and saw that there |
| 06:22.59 | Bifuu | i got confused |
| 06:23.02 | Bifuu | still am |
| 06:24.30 | vjeux | gtg |
| 06:25.02 | Bifuu | later |
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| 06:38.06 | Iggyhopper | Bifuu, nicoli_s: http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3710/screenshot002pb.jpg |
| 06:38.09 | Iggyhopper | Much better. |
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| 06:51.40 | Bifuu | nice Iggyhopper |
| 06:53.58 | Bifuu | time for sleep, later |
| 06:54.03 | Iggyhopper | k |
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| 08:52.44 | Hati | lol |
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| 09:05.09 | Iggyhopper | hati |
| 09:05.14 | Hati | yea? |
| 09:05.28 | Iggyhopper | holdon |
| 09:05.45 | Iggyhopper | http://forums.starcraft.org/showthread.php?p=724440#post724440 |
| 09:06.17 | vjeux | ultralisk video posted on the forums? |
| 09:06.23 | Iggyhopper | no |
| 09:06.38 | Iggyhopper | well i put news on sc.org |
| 09:06.42 | Iggyhopper | :) |
| 09:06.44 | Hati | not yet |
| 09:07.17 | Hati | i just noticed the bug i have with ultralisk - blizzard had too at blizzcon |
| 09:07.26 | Iggyhopper | wow |
| 09:07.52 | vjeux | oh nice |
| 09:08.00 | vjeux | what bug Hati ? |
| 09:08.13 | Hati | the spike on the end of a spinecrawler |
| 09:08.23 | Hati | it is directed to the facing of the ultralisk |
| 09:08.42 | Hati | if returning |
| 09:08.46 | Hati | on attack its fine |
| 09:08.59 | Hati | but if it is returning to the uberlisk it is facing the same way as uberlisk |
| 09:10.57 | Iggyhopper | wanna make a thread on battlenet? |
| 09:11.00 | Iggyhopper | to linkvid? |
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| 09:21.12 | Iggyhopper | u |
| 09:21.16 | Iggyhopper | fag |
| 09:21.26 | vjeuxx | what a warm welcome :p |
| 09:21.35 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 09:21.50 | Iggyhopper | u see mah thred? |
| 09:22.01 | vjeuxx | yeah the tutorial is really nice |
| 09:22.05 | vjeuxx | going to be newsed tomorrow! |
| 09:23.30 | Iggyhopper | kool |
| 09:24.04 | vjeuxx | btw that's really strange because you do the whole tutorial with an icon |
| 09:24.10 | vjeuxx | and show the result with another |
| 09:24.15 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 09:24.16 | Iggyhopper | yes |
| 09:25.33 | Iggyhopper | well i did one already, but i had to retrace |
| 09:25.38 | Iggyhopper | make sure my tut worked |
| 09:25.50 | Iggyhopper | it didnt, for the quality |
| 09:25.54 | Iggyhopper | but i wanted to get i tdone |
| 09:26.03 | Iggyhopper | and show a quality icon in sc2 |
| 09:26.23 | Iggyhopper | vjeuxx |
| 09:26.37 | vjeuxx | yes? |
| 09:26.46 | Iggyhopper | um imageshack keeps images for hoe lomng? |
| 09:26.48 | Iggyhopper | ever? |
| 09:26.50 | Iggyhopper | month? |
| 09:26.54 | vjeuxx | not sure |
| 09:26.58 | Iggyhopper | lamb |
| 09:27.02 | Iggyhopper | e |
| 09:27.04 | vjeuxx | but clearly it's not for ever |
| 09:29.04 | Iggyhopper | fuckin stupid ass plugin |
| 09:29.12 | Iggyhopper | outdated like shit |
| 09:30.20 | Hati | guess same as rapidshare |
| 09:30.27 | Hati | not looking at it for ~1month |
| 09:30.34 | Hati | will delete it |
| 09:31.56 | Iggyhopper | http://developer.amd.com/gpu/compressonator/Pages/default.aspx |
| 09:32.09 | Iggyhopper | trying it out essays |
| 09:34.27 | vjeuxx | does the ATI compression works on NVIDIA cards? |
| 09:34.35 | vjeuxx | work |
| 09:35.38 | Iggyhopper | yes |
| 09:35.42 | Iggyhopper | i have nvidia gcard |
| 09:36.19 | vjeuxx | nice |
| 09:38.31 | Iggyhopper | do .tga have alpha? |
| 09:38.40 | vjeuxx | yes |
| 09:38.46 | Iggyhopper | k |
| 09:41.32 | Iggyhopper | i just think blizz will have uh |
| 09:41.41 | Iggyhopper | a tool to convert tgz to dds easily |
| 09:42.27 | Iggyhopper | ok i think i just got a new tut |
| 09:42.41 | vjeuxx | tgz? |
| 09:42.46 | Iggyhopper | tga* |
| 09:54.39 | Iggyhopper | vjeuxx |
| 09:54.42 | Iggyhopper | fixed it |
| 09:54.47 | Iggyhopper | I'm using compressinator |
| 09:55.09 | vjeuxx | could you make a screenshot |
| 09:55.35 | Iggyhopper | yes yes |
| 09:55.57 | vjeuxx | nice |
| 09:56.00 | Iggyhopper | of the save menu? |
| 09:56.16 | vjeuxx | that would look good in a news :p |
| 10:01.00 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/wow-icons-custom-units-dds-compression/ |
| 10:01.05 | vjeuxx | (don't look!) |
| 10:01.11 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 10:01.26 | Iggyhopper | damit i cant get photoshop to save the alpha channels to tga |
| 10:01.49 | vjeuxx | sadly there's no unpublished state on the forum news |
| 10:02.01 | vjeuxx | so i have to publish it and put it in a past date :p |
| 10:02.06 | Iggyhopper | well, it still works, lol |
| 10:02.15 | vjeuxx | but it spams the irc :( |
| 10:02.50 | Iggyhopper | ok tga saves with alpha in ps |
| 10:02.52 | Iggyhopper | done |
| 10:02.53 | Iggyhopper | now |
| 10:03.10 | vjeuxx | you have to set tga 64bit or something |
| 10:03.23 | vjeuxx | that's how you tell to save alpha |
| 10:03.45 | Iggyhopper | did it |
| 10:03.45 | Iggyhopper | ! |
| 10:03.55 | Iggyhopper | iits in options for compressor |
| 10:06.49 | vjeuxx | Hati: here? |
| 10:08.40 | Iggyhopper | Hati |
| 10:08.42 | Iggyhopper | : fag? |
| 10:08.45 | Iggyhopper | :yes? |
| 10:08.47 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 10:09.00 | vjeuxx | xD |
| 10:09.20 | Hati | huh? |
| 10:09.32 | vjeuxx | could you post the uberlisk video on the official forums? |
| 10:09.42 | Hati | bnet? |
| 10:09.45 | vjeuxx | yep |
| 10:09.51 | vjeuxx | linking to the mapster news :p |
| 10:09.52 | Hati | only EU |
| 10:09.56 | vjeuxx | ok |
| 10:10.00 | vjeuxx | well, eu is a good start |
| 10:10.06 | vjeuxx | i'll have someone else do it on the us one |
| 10:10.12 | Iggyhopper | ill do it |
| 10:10.16 | Iggyhopper | then i got to go to bed |
| 10:10.16 | vjeuxx | thanks |
| 10:10.20 | Iggyhopper | but us is all at be doto |
| 10:10.26 | Iggyhopper | in all bed, to |
| 10:10.27 | Iggyhopper | too |
| 10:10.38 | Iggyhopper | US IS IN BED ILL DO IT IN MORNING I AM TIRED |
| 10:10.40 | Iggyhopper | LOOOOOOOOOL |
| 10:11.01 | Grum | did someone already post a vide of the uberlisk that doesnt have 2 pixels moving? |
| 10:11.11 | Iggyhopper | what? |
| 10:11.27 | Grum | +o; and that crappy lowres video makes your eyes water ;( |
| 10:11.43 | Hati | give me more upload o.O |
| 10:12.12 | vjeuxx | Grum: buy me a new comp i'll make HD videos |
| 10:12.16 | vjeuxx | in full quality |
| 10:12.40 | Grum | Technetium: you already figured out what cause the weirdness with the mask? |
| 10:13.14 | Iggyhopper | give me the mod |
| 10:13.18 | Iggyhopper | i have full hd |
| 10:13.24 | Iggyhopper | 1080 |
| 10:13.27 | Iggyhopper | Hati |
| 10:14.28 | Hati | it's not about 1080p ... |
| 10:14.31 | Hati | it's about upload |
| 10:14.48 | vjeuxx | you've reached the youtube upload limit/ |
| 10:14.49 | vjeuxx | ? |
| 10:15.01 | Grum | no his upload is slow so its painful to upload big things |
| 10:15.07 | vjeuxx | oh i see |
| 10:15.34 | Hati | It just sucks to disable your whole internet just by uploading stuff |
| 10:15.43 | vjeuxx | :p |
| 10:15.59 | Hati | so i just compressed the video to ~70mb |
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| 10:16.11 | Hati | which makes it useless for approx 15minutes |
| 10:16.12 | Iggyhopper | i have fast net too |
| 10:16.28 | Iggyhopper | i can run my server and upload to tube |
| 10:16.37 | Iggyhopper | at the saeeeem titiiiiem |
| 10:16.51 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 10:16.53 | Iggyhopper | wat a feg |
| 10:16.56 | Iggyhopper | give me replay? |
| 10:16.58 | Iggyhopper | or |
| 10:17.03 | Iggyhopper | just give me mod |
| 10:17.05 | Iggyhopper | lollw |
| 10:17.06 | Grum | Hati: you could simply upload it not at max speed :) |
| 10:18.54 | Hati | or simply at night ... |
| 10:19.23 | Grum | and that vid cannot be 70mb the quality is appaling :D |
| 10:19.30 | Hati | it is |
| 10:19.54 | Iggyhopper | its half way point of the month |
| 10:19.58 | Iggyhopper | i am livid |
| 10:20.12 | vjeuxx | Mpeg compression is really nice |
| 10:20.22 | vjeuxx | all the videos i've uploaded so far are < 100 meg |
| 10:20.44 | Iggyhopper | ive uploaded mine, its 8 minutes long and that was... |
| 10:22.35 | Iggyhopper | 276MB/8:28 |
| 10:23.02 | Grum | that also must not have been zomg quality :D |
| 10:23.06 | vjeuxx | :p |
| 10:23.14 | Iggyhopper | It is, it's 720p. |
| 10:23.14 | vjeuxx | erg i'm running out of battery :( |
| 10:23.59 | Iggyhopper | You suck. |
| 10:24.14 | Iggyhopper | I have to go to bed now. |
| 10:24.18 | vjeuxx | night |
| 10:24.22 | Grum | Iggyhopper: what codec did you use? :D |
| 10:24.25 | Iggyhopper | Make sure my post on my tut gets in news, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay |
| 10:24.27 | vjeuxx | make that post tomorrow :p |
| 10:24.36 | Iggyhopper | mkay |
| 10:24.41 | Iggyhopper | also yes in US bnet forums |
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| 10:53.27 | Hati | omg |
| 10:53.29 | Hati | it works o.O |
| 10:53.35 | Hati | i fixed a bug which blizzard had! |
| 10:53.49 | Fisker | what bug is that? |
| 10:53.56 | Hati | the spine on top of the spinecrawler penis |
| 10:54.02 | Hati | was facing the same way as the uberlisk |
| 10:54.09 | Hati | not it has it own face |
| 10:54.12 | Hati | so it stays to the target |
| 10:54.16 | Hati | till back at uberlisk |
| 10:54.33 | Hati | but for some reason i can't attach it the way blizzard did o.O |
| 10:54.33 | Fisker | backs up |
| 10:54.39 | Hati | which i was able to do 3days ago |
| 10:54.44 | Fisker | :( |
| 10:55.32 | Hati | but should change soon i hope |
| 10:59.01 | Hati | yea hmm |
| 11:00.14 | Hati | but with this you should be able to do fancy things |
| 11:00.17 | Hati | chain lightnings |
| 11:00.18 | Hati | etc. |
| 11:04.36 | Fisker | nice |
| 11:04.46 | Fisker | Really looking forward to the editor |
| 11:05.02 | Fisker | don't have the stomach for manually editing xml files and repacking them all the time :P |
| 11:05.03 | Grum | i look forward to Fisker having pain |
| 11:05.18 | Fisker | you would Grum |
| 11:05.20 | Fisker | but get this |
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| 11:05.29 | Fisker | http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/10/04/14/862.png |
| 11:06.59 | Grum | says nothing |
| 11:08.25 | Fisker | it tells you that i'm greatly aroused at the moment |
| 11:09.12 | Hati | can haz? |
| 11:09.21 | Fisker | NO! |
| 11:09.27 | Hati | why? |
| 11:10.34 | Hati | Wow very few ppl in channel |
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| 12:51.56 | Arthas- | Fisker |
| 12:52.05 | Arthas- | repacking is done by script, you just edit the xml :) |
| 13:02.54 | Arthas- | i hate blizzard |
| 13:03.11 | Arthas- | how come they reply to crap threads regarding editor and not Zoxc thread |
| 13:03.12 | krry_ | you love them |
| 13:03.16 | krry_ | you ain't fooling noone |
| 13:03.22 | Arthas- | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23425634566 zoxc thread, bump iiiiit |
| 13:03.31 | Arthas- | hell no |
| 13:03.39 | krry_ | give me a beta key and I'll bump |
| 13:03.49 | Arthas- | thats not beta boards you can bump |
| 13:03.49 | Arthas- | :p |
| 13:05.34 | krry_ | I still want a key |
| 13:06.00 | Arthas- | start mapping and ill give you the next key i have available |
| 13:06.05 | Arthas- | :p |
| 13:06.11 | Arthas- | hopefully they do another invite a friend |
| 13:06.14 | krry_ | you are so demanding :( |
| 13:06.18 | Arthas- | also |
| 13:06.29 | Arthas- | nude pics of your gf once you get one |
| 13:06.34 | Arthas- | she has to be fit |
| 13:06.43 | Arthas- | niec bouncy boobs |
| 13:06.46 | Arthas- | in fact, I want a video |
| 13:06.47 | Arthas- | :p |
| 13:07.02 | Arthas- | then recieve my bnet account containing every blizzard game ever made |
| 13:07.12 | krry_ | and I guess she has to write "Arthas" somewhere on the body? |
| 13:07.24 | Arthas- | Nah |
| 13:07.28 | Arthas- | just my adress |
| 13:07.31 | krry_ | or just sc2mapster.com? :D |
| 13:07.33 | Arthas- | then some stamps on her |
| 13:07.48 | Arthas- | yeah that could work to |
| 13:07.51 | Arthas- | publicity for the site |
| 13:08.11 | Arthas- | SC2Mapster - Our gfs are hot as hell - Join today and get one yourself |
| 13:08.37 | krry_ | D: |
| 13:12.54 | Arthas- | ckknight Sixen |
| 13:13.15 | Arthas- | We should setup a tutorial section on the boards |
| 13:13.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (~a3052a3e@gateway/web/freenode/x-vyfrtdxzjedxufov) |
| 13:14.06 | Arthas- | or is it vjeux you talk to perhaps |
| 13:14.08 | vjeux | wants item screens! |
| 13:14.17 | Arthas- | we should get a tutorial section on the site |
| 13:14.23 | Arthas- | what kind of item screens? |
| 13:14.33 | vjeux | Alevice, catch greg on IRC, apparently he succeeded in making it. I'm moving along to POWERUP soon. Just have to finish up the items. |
| 13:14.57 | Arthas- | Yeah, Ima make some example items and invetories for weapons |
| 13:15.07 | Arthas- | put screens and map up |
| 13:15.11 | Arthas- | then make a tutorial out of it |
| 13:15.22 | Arthas- | currently testing the effectinstant stuff |
| 13:16.04 | Arthas- | also some info on interface http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://bbs.islga.org/read-htm-tid-39766.html&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgwk6w9IEH-vOAL-ENk0sMEMdC18Q |
| 13:16.13 | Arthas- | havent read through so i dont know if its something new |
| 13:17.15 | vjeux | Arthas good idea |
| 13:17.18 | vjeux | going to add a tutorial forum |
| 13:17.50 | Arthas- | i dont know if its useful, but perhaps subcategories too |
| 13:17.56 | Arthas- | xml edit |
| 13:17.58 | Arthas- | galaxy |
| 13:17.59 | Arthas- | etc |
| 13:18.09 | Arthas- | ui edit |
| 13:18.21 | vjeux | later |
| 13:18.22 | Arthas- | or some kind of tag system in the tutorial itself |
| 13:18.36 | vjeux | atm the forums are not busy enough to have 1000 categories |
| 13:18.42 | Arthas- | for topic "[XMLTutorial] Adding inventory and items" |
| 13:19.02 | Arthas- | one can then run a search on [XMLTutorials] and get all results I guess |
| 13:20.02 | vjeux | it's hard to make people adopt tags ;p |
| 13:20.08 | vjeux | but in the tutorial section that could do it |
| 13:20.43 | Arthas- | those that take the time to write tutorials will most likely take the time to tag :) |
| 13:20.58 | vjeux | yup |
| 13:25.34 | vjeux | http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://bbs.islga.org/read-htm-tid-39721.html&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhiRDVDoM4m_xNzY0s5dCKruzjYWqg |
| 13:25.36 | vjeux | wtb translator :p |
| 13:25.50 | vjeux | han it's from sc2mod |
| 13:26.13 | vjeux | oops it's chinese too ;p |
| 13:26.25 | Arthas- | ya |
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| 13:28.44 | Arthas- | omg |
| 13:28.48 | Arthas- | found out how to make stacked items |
| 13:29.05 | Arthas- | it actually stood on renees post |
| 13:29.06 | vjeux | nice |
| 13:29.09 | Arthas- | ay |
| 13:29.18 | vjeux | :p |
| 13:29.23 | vjeux | Renee is our god |
| 13:29.51 | Arthas- | only lame thing is to test everything out when translation is sucky as hell |
| 13:30.03 | Arthas- | but theyve done great work figuring all this out |
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| 13:43.42 | Thels | sigh |
| 13:43.46 | Arthas- | ? |
| 13:43.53 | Thels | I still only get directories, not actual files |
| 13:43.58 | Thels | with the .s2ma extention |
| 13:44.37 | Arthas- | are you in localappdata/blizzard/bnet/cache ? |
| 13:44.53 | Arthas- | I dont have one folder with that extension |
| 13:45.08 | Thels | there I have nothing that appears like a map |
| 13:45.30 | Thels | In C:\Users\Thels\Documents\Starcraft II Beta\Maps\Cache |
| 13:45.35 | Arthas- | you have a legit account right? |
| 13:45.41 | Arthas- | thats wrong directory |
| 13:45.47 | Arthas- | you have the runncommand? |
| 13:45.48 | Thels | I have several maps with the .s2ma extention |
| 13:45.53 | Thels | runcommand? |
| 13:45.59 | Arthas- | windows key + r |
| 13:46.03 | Arthas- | will give you a runbox |
| 13:46.05 | Arthas- | then type %localappdata%\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache |
| 13:46.07 | Thels | In C:\ I just do a dir *.s2ma /s |
| 13:46.13 | Arthas- | its not in c |
| 13:46.23 | Thels | the /s includes subdirs |
| 13:46.31 | Arthas- | including hidden ones? |
| 13:46.35 | Arthas- | just do the run |
| 13:46.37 | Arthas- | and type that |
| 13:46.49 | Thels | uhm |
| 13:46.52 | Arthas- | then use windows search function for *.s2ma |
| 13:46.54 | Thels | not cd in front of it? |
| 13:46.57 | Arthas- | no |
| 13:46.59 | Arthas- | just %localappdata%\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache |
| 13:47.03 | Arthas- | directly in the run-field |
| 13:47.03 | Thels | windows search function gives the same |
| 13:47.45 | Arthas- | and the account is legit so you have been on bnet and actually played so it downloaded some maps right? |
| 13:47.53 | Thels | yeah |
| 13:47.55 | Arthas- | otherwise go to nibbits and fetch the maps from there |
| 13:47.59 | Thels | Though I'm on EU |
| 13:48.01 | Arthas- | they have original maps aswell |
| 13:48.02 | Arthas- | so am i |
| 13:48.03 | Thels | shouldn't matter, though |
| 13:48.22 | Thels | there I have folders like 00, 0a, 0c, 1b, 6a, etc... |
| 13:48.23 | Arthas- | well, %localappdata%\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache is where maps are stored at least w vista / 7 |
| 13:48.25 | Arthas- | yes |
| 13:48.31 | Thels | and one Downloadn |
| 13:48.33 | Arthas- | then run a search there for *.s2ma |
| 13:48.35 | Thels | *Download |
| 13:48.38 | Arthas- | not in download |
| 13:48.41 | Thels | and one TMP |
| 13:48.46 | Thels | Already done that |
| 13:48.46 | Arthas- | 49063089777b918500264572927b48ab2eb98e41ebccc8db3ddc9704a94f8692.s2ma |
| 13:48.49 | Arthas- | is one map |
| 13:48.54 | Thels | there's just no .s2ma files |
| 13:48.55 | Arthas- | its in the folder 49/06/ |
| 13:48.58 | Thels | only .s2ma folders |
| 13:49.18 | Thels | In 49 I on'y have a sb folder |
| 13:49.26 | Thels | and in there is a .s2ml file :| |
| 13:49.27 | Arthas- | prolly differs |
| 13:49.32 | Arthas- | http://sc2.nibbits.com/maps/browse/blizzard/ |
| 13:49.33 | Arthas- | there |
| 13:49.33 | Thels | *db folder |
| 13:49.36 | Arthas- | all official blizzard maps |
| 13:49.41 | Arthas- | doesnt matter where you get em |
| 13:49.58 | Thels | Well |
| 13:50.06 | Arthas- | 49063089777b918500264572927b48ab2eb98e41ebccc8db3ddc9704a94f8692.s2ma < kulas ravines |
| 13:50.07 | Thels | I still don't understand why I don't simply get them on my harddrive... |
| 13:50.13 | Arthas- | no idea |
| 13:50.34 | Arthas- | the fact you get .s2ma folders itself sounds weird |
| 13:50.49 | Thels | they're elsewhere, though |
| 13:51.18 | Arthas- | what os? |
| 13:51.21 | Thels | They're in the Documents\Starcraft II Beta\Maps\Cache file |
| 13:51.29 | Thels | Vista32homepremium |
| 13:51.37 | Thels | dutch language |
| 13:51.38 | Arthas- | dont really know :p |
| 13:52.02 | Arthas- | errrrr |
| 13:52.04 | Arthas- | thels |
| 13:52.06 | Arthas- | you are in the wrong place |
| 13:52.15 | Thels | sigh |
| 13:52.18 | Thels | I already told you |
| 13:52.19 | Arthas- | my documents starcraft whatever has folders w .s2ma extension |
| 13:52.21 | Thels | that's in a different place |
| 13:52.25 | Thels | so |
| 13:52.27 | Arthas- | %localappdata%\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache |
| 13:52.30 | Arthas- | what happens when you run it |
| 13:52.33 | Thels | the folders is no particular thing |
| 13:52.33 | Arthas- | it should open a folder |
| 13:52.44 | Thels | I'm not braindead on how windows works |
| 13:52.58 | Thels | I've digged trough my folders |
| 13:53.00 | Arthas- | and there you said you had several folders like 46 etc |
| 13:53.05 | Thels | yeah |
| 13:53.13 | Arthas- | look in the documents folder |
| 13:53.21 | Arthas- | one of mine for example is called 28615da1031cda514dfb78c80dfee74c43cdbc75d570618df98c1c9db54b2de7.s2ma |
| 13:53.36 | Thels | I think I have that one too |
| 13:53.40 | Arthas- | then in the %localappdata%\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache location, enter folder 28 then subfolder 61 |
| 13:53.46 | Arthas- | and the mapfile should be there |
| 13:53.51 | Arthas- | named 28615da1031cda514dfb78c80dfee74c43cdbc75d570618df98c1c9db54b2de7.s2ma |
| 13:54.07 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/314-how-to-inventory-system-in-8-points/ |
| 13:54.17 | Thels | I got a db folder |
| 13:54.21 | Thels | not a 61 folder :| |
| 13:55.14 | Thels | actually |
| 13:55.16 | Arthas- | C:\Users\Raeven\AppData\Local\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache\28\61 |
| 13:55.18 | Thels | lemme try something else |
| 13:55.21 | Arthas- | there i has mapfile |
| 13:55.24 | Arthas- | vjeux nice |
| 13:55.57 | Arthas- | i still write tutorial? =p |
| 13:56.13 | Thels | huh |
| 13:56.13 | Arthas- | ie explain the stuff you can change |
| 13:56.14 | Thels | weird |
| 13:56.18 | Thels | if I got SC2 open |
| 13:56.19 | Arthas- | or just post a complemantary update |
| 13:56.23 | Thels | and actually playing a map |
| 13:56.26 | Thels | then the file is there :| |
| 13:56.28 | Arthas- | Thels it might remove maps |
| 13:56.48 | Arthas- | after gameclosedown |
| 13:56.55 | Thels | seems so |
| 13:59.20 | Thels | wait |
| 13:59.26 | Thels | that's a shitload of maps I got now |
| 13:59.58 | Thels | meh |
| 14:00.51 | Thels | ugh |
| 14:01.00 | Thels | Vista's search utility is screwed up big time |
| 14:06.38 | Arthas- | so was mine |
| 14:06.44 | Arthas- | til i added my drives to the index function :p |
| 14:06.50 | Arthas- | worked much better that way |
| 14:08.31 | Thels | ok |
| 14:08.33 | Thels | well, good |
| 14:08.48 | Thels | still, not planning on doing too much until the editor's here |
| 14:09.00 | art[] | =] |
| 14:09.03 | Arthas- | lots of stuff to play around with :p |
| 14:09.10 | Arthas- | bah, vjeux died |
| 14:09.52 | Arthas- | eeeeh |
| 14:09.58 | Arthas- | "If you wish to host a blog on an external site, you can specify this and your profile will link to it." |
| 14:10.07 | Arthas- | This field is required? what if I dont want to |
| 14:12.11 | Arthas- | wtf |
| 14:12.19 | Arthas- | I had an old HP-X account on curse registred 2007 :O |
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| 14:15.20 | Thels | ah |
| 14:15.23 | Thels | inventory! |
| 14:15.24 | Thels | nice |
| 14:15.34 | Alevice_Work | whos greg |
| 14:15.42 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work I found out how to have items stack on items :) |
| 14:15.50 | Alevice_Work | oh pretty |
| 14:16.03 | Arthas- | although there seems to be one little problem, dont know if its lack of implementation from blizzard but hey |
| 14:16.06 | Alevice_Work | so you can have an item with charges and shit? |
| 14:16.12 | Arthas- | No way to stack items ingame? Tried having same itemtype with max set to 5 and start to 5. Then used |
| 14:16.12 | Arthas- | 4 on one of the items and 1 on the other, but was unable to stack the two together. Same with start |
| 14:16.12 | Arthas- | set to 1 with max as 5. Other than that it works great! |
| 14:16.17 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 14:16.18 | Hati | k found why the attachment wasn't allowed :) |
| 14:16.33 | Arthas- | from personal notes :p |
| 14:16.43 | Alevice_Work | so they perish out too |
| 14:16.44 | Arthas- | now I made a blog where I can keep this stuff online for all to see its beauty :p |
| 14:16.47 | Arthas- | yup yup |
| 14:16.53 | Alevice_Work | link link? |
| 14:16.54 | Arthas- | but I cant restack em |
| 14:16.57 | Alevice_Work | or pastebin pastbin? |
| 14:17.01 | Arthas- | creating it now through curse |
| 14:17.05 | Arthas- | pb |
| 14:17.07 | Arthas- | for now |
| 14:17.23 | Alevice_Work | pb? |
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| 14:19.25 | Arthas- | http://sc2mapster.pastebin.com/2zCR6EkD |
| 14:19.26 | Arthas- | pastebin |
| 14:19.36 | Arthas- | right mapster has their own :D |
| 14:19.40 | Arthas- | forgot about that |
| 14:19.52 | Arthas- | <EffectFlags index="Transient" value="1"/> < that one is still a mystery to me |
| 14:20.22 | Arthas- | doesnt matter if its set to 0 or 1 |
| 14:20.23 | Thels | Hmm |
| 14:20.28 | Arthas- | might affect some skills I guess |
| 14:20.33 | Thels | Why do all the inventory slots have a row value of 8? |
| 14:20.41 | Arthas- | thels |
| 14:20.45 | Arthas- | its to compensate for the model |
| 14:20.48 | Arthas- | which is of height 500 |
| 14:20.53 | Thels | ah, ok |
| 14:20.55 | Arthas- | I guess |
| 14:21.02 | Thels | that makes sense |
| 14:21.04 | Arthas- | havent actually tried setting row 3 while model is acticated |
| 14:21.20 | Thels | so by giving them row value 8, you leave 8 empty rows |
| 14:21.27 | Thels | So, if you want to go a little more advanced |
| 14:21.38 | Arthas- | Im going to try some stuff later see how model affects the slots |
| 14:21.45 | Arthas- | or if you can put model within a slot |
| 14:21.59 | Thels | and for example, allow two weapon slots, a head slot, a chest slot and a feet slot, you could have the boxes spread out over the image, close to the appropiate body parts? |
| 14:22.04 | Arthas- | that way you could place head slots, shoulder slots etc on the model |
| 14:22.07 | Arthas- | which would be awesome |
| 14:22.08 | Hati | wtf |
| 14:22.15 | Hati | i just heard icq sound but i have no icq opened |
| 14:22.23 | Arthas- | Thels yeah |
| 14:22.26 | Thels | It's all in your head, Hati |
| 14:22.31 | Arthas- | but it might get messed up unless you are able to lower the model |
| 14:22.32 | Thels | hmm |
| 14:22.37 | Arthas- | in that case the slot will overlap head |
| 14:22.39 | Thels | that could be cool |
| 14:22.42 | Arthas- | which is not an effect Im after |
| 14:23.00 | Arthas- | and UI files added to the maps does not affect game |
| 14:23.05 | Thels | well |
| 14:23.08 | Thels | if I look at the image |
| 14:23.16 | Thels | then it doesn't seem to be a problem |
| 14:23.21 | Thels | assuming it's row 8 |
| 14:23.26 | Thels | then there's 8 rows above it |
| 14:23.40 | Thels | so there would be space ven above the gun |
| 14:23.51 | Thels | and if I look at the zealot, there's even more space |
| 14:24.17 | Thels | but you could have something like "equipped", "backpack", "bank" |
| 14:24.28 | Thels | and bank only being accessable from some places on the map? |
| 14:24.29 | Arthas- | you are right |
| 14:24.39 | Arthas- | thats perfect placement imo |
| 14:24.56 | Arthas- | thels thats a problem though |
| 14:24.57 | Thels | and only have the equipped items actually affect your character? |
| 14:25.06 | Arthas- | although there are item classes I have not found a way to make them do anything |
| 14:25.24 | Arthas- | although you can have equipped items affecting only so one equipment and one backpack works for example |
| 14:25.36 | Arthas- | However, I can put the axe on ma head and it effects me |
| 14:25.56 | Thels | yeah, ok |
| 14:25.58 | Arthas- | no way to add rules for say maximum one weaponclass item in effect or anything along those lines |
| 14:26.12 | Arthas- | but honestly |
| 14:26.14 | Thels | but that's for equipment positions on the character, right? |
| 14:26.18 | Arthas- | i doubt the item function is finished |
| 14:26.24 | Arthas- | there is no struct for it in the core file |
| 14:26.41 | Arthas- | the inventory buttons would be behind the chat & voip stuff in a bnet game |
| 14:26.58 | Arthas- | and if i have two items that give me cloak and drop one, cloak disappears |
| 14:27.00 | Thels | are their locations set by blizzard? |
| 14:27.03 | Arthas- | until i toggle the item left |
| 14:27.16 | Arthas- | too much that aint working as expected |
| 14:27.38 | Thels | well, yeah |
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| 14:27.48 | Thels | that's one reason why I'm waiting for the official editor |
| 14:27.50 | Arthas- | abilinventory for example does not have any struct just <CAbilInventory default="1"/> in the core |
| 14:27.57 | Alevice_Work | rows of lower index overlap with the model |
| 14:28.06 | Thels | because that's when the game needs to start supporting this stuff |
| 14:28.06 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work sweet, you tested :D |
| 14:28.13 | Alevice_Work | yeah, i did yesterday |
| 14:28.14 | Arthas- | thels it already does |
| 14:28.24 | Arthas- | nothing says the items will be fixed just cuz they release editor |
| 14:28.24 | Thels | yeah, but not correctly perse |
| 14:28.30 | Thels | some stuff here, some stuff there |
| 14:28.31 | Arthas- | its not even sure they played around with it and realized this |
| 14:28.48 | Arthas- | i was thinking of posting a bugreport on sc2 boards |
| 14:28.50 | Alevice_Work | so you got pawn working? |
| 14:28.52 | Arthas- | on this matter |
| 14:28.55 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work not me |
| 14:29.00 | Alevice_Work | careful with bug reports concerning modding |
| 14:29.00 | Arthas- | greg21 or whatever his name was did |
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| 14:29.10 | Alevice_Work | blizz does not seem happy about the whole modding shenanigans yet |
| 14:29.13 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work yeah that struck me too |
| 14:29.19 | Arthas- | wrong |
| 14:29.24 | Arthas- | their public department does not |
| 14:29.29 | Arthas- | the developers are prolly happy w it :p |
| 14:29.43 | Arthas- | but yeah |
| 14:29.52 | Alevice_Work | btw, apparently lootitem allowsyou to link it to an item class rather than an sepcific item |
| 14:29.53 | Arthas- | perhaps put a known bugs page up on sc2mapster? |
| 14:29.53 | Alevice_Work | :) |
| 14:29.58 | Arthas- | im sure they would keep an eye on that |
| 14:29.59 | Thels | that could help |
| 14:30.03 | Alevice_Work | but I still can't trigger a loot drop |
| 14:30.09 | Thels | and then when the editor is there, retest the bugs |
| 14:30.18 | Thels | and those that aren't fixed can be sent up to blizz then |
| 14:30.23 | Alevice_Work | aye |
| 14:30.41 | Arthas- | i fucking love this site :D |
| 14:30.53 | Thels | half of this stuff is not in the game yet, since there's no need at all for it to be in the game yet |
| 14:31.02 | Arthas- | finally a sane page to browse while at work |
| 14:31.22 | Arthas- | thels its in the game |
| 14:31.23 | Arthas- | we are using it |
| 14:31.24 | Arthas- | :p |
| 14:31.40 | Thels | yeah, but not complete, fleshed out |
| 14:31.48 | Arthas- | i mean |
| 14:32.09 | Arthas- | by the looks of it we can edit most of the datafiles and use functions like inventory that isnt even in use |
| 14:32.16 | Arthas- | can prolly get loot to work aswell |
| 14:32.17 | Thels | and if it's buggy in this release, then they won't really care much, since we shouldn't be playing with it yet |
| 14:32.25 | Thels | once the editor is out, they expect us to play with this |
| 14:32.31 | Thels | and then they'll listen to reports |
| 14:32.42 | Arthas- | eeeeh |
| 14:32.57 | Arthas- | ive seen them listen to bugreports twice |
| 14:33.00 | Arthas- | regarding editor |
| 14:33.05 | Arthas- | tft beta |
| 14:33.07 | Thels | hmm, ok |
| 14:33.09 | Arthas- | and a tft patch a year later |
| 14:33.48 | Zoxc | and patch 1.24 =P |
| 14:33.56 | Arthas- | was that the returnbug? |
| 14:33.58 | Thels | what does 1.24 do? |
| 14:34.01 | Arthas- | + hashies |
| 14:34.13 | Zoxc | yeah, they even implemented some suggestions =P |
| 14:34.17 | Thels | but TFT data editor is a pain |
| 14:34.21 | Thels | it's SOOOOO slow |
| 14:34.26 | Arthas- | well, still its rare they listen to modders |
| 14:34.31 | Thels | myeah |
| 14:34.41 | Thels | but they're certainly not going to listen to us at this point |
| 14:34.42 | Arthas- | unless its in the game planning stage, they take in stuff that was suggested in previous game |
| 14:34.46 | Arthas- | wc3 suggestions go to sc2 |
| 14:35.44 | Thels | myeah, they could easily do some really cool stuff if they wanted to |
| 14:35.47 | Arthas- | zoxc post http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23425634566 |
| 14:35.53 | Thels | like in SC1, simply add hero units for the BW units |
| 14:35.56 | Arthas- | that is one thing they havent responded too but they might consider |
| 14:36.08 | Zoxc | that needs bumping btw |
| 14:36.15 | Arthas- | imo its better to get this stuff out early during beta when they are actively developing |
| 14:36.16 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 14:36.21 | Arthas- | ima bump |
| 14:36.25 | Zoxc | gotta annoy the mods with it =P |
| 14:36.33 | Arthas- | Zoxc you fucking nerd, stop spamming our trolling boards! |
| 14:36.46 | Arthas- | then they postwipe me again :( |
| 14:37.23 | Arthas- | i dont even get half of the theory :p |
| 14:37.48 | Arthas- | when using cunit parent="X" for example |
| 14:38.14 | Arthas- | is that inheritance from a class or struct or whatever |
| 14:38.23 | Arthas- | how would one explain whats happening in correct terms |
| 14:39.05 | krry_ | inheritance sounds correct in my ears, not sure if you're supposed to explain OOP to everyone who's reading the tutorial |
| 14:39.10 | Zoxc | no inheritance in my posts =P |
| 14:39.16 | Arthas- | krry im not going to |
| 14:39.19 | Arthas- | no zoxc |
| 14:39.24 | Arthas- | but the example above |
| 14:39.31 | Arthas- | cunit = native object? |
| 14:39.34 | Arthas- | native struct? |
| 14:39.52 | Zoxc | oh you switched topics to xml data :) |
| 14:40.01 | Alevice_Work | In this case, inheritances is merely cloning the catalog entry and refined as deemed fit by the child |
| 14:40.14 | Arthas- | and what would you call the templates in core.sc2mod for cunit id="ITEM" parent="1" |
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| 14:40.27 | Arthas- | ah |
| 14:40.33 | Arthas- | Zoxc xml data, native functions |
| 14:40.34 | Alevice_Work | default="1", you jmean |
| 14:40.35 | Arthas- | same shit! :p |
| 14:40.44 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux] by ChanServ |
| 14:40.48 | Arthas- | default 1 just says its the template to use right? |
| 14:40.56 | Arthas- | the mother of all |
| 14:41.15 | vjeux | basically default="1" means you automatically parent from it |
| 14:41.24 | Arthas- | ah |
| 14:41.38 | Arthas- | btw vjeux you never replied i think |
| 14:41.48 | vjeux | replied to what? |
| 14:42.23 | Arthas- | ( +Arthas- ): vjeux nice |
| 14:42.23 | Arthas- | -[ 15:55.55 ]- -( +Arthas- ): i still write tutorial? =p |
| 14:42.24 | Arthas- | -[ 15:56.11 ]- -( +Arthas- ): ie explain the stuff you can change |
| 14:42.29 | Arthas- | regarding your howto post |
| 14:42.33 | Arthas- | or extend it somehow |
| 14:42.53 | vjeux | I disconnected, never recieved it :p |
| 14:42.56 | Arthas- | ah |
| 14:43.08 | vjeux | anyway, I don't know enough about items to expand it |
| 14:43.11 | Thels | by the way |
| 14:43.19 | Thels | is the inventory system a hero only thing? |
| 14:43.23 | Arthas- | nope |
| 14:43.23 | vjeux | no |
| 14:43.32 | Arthas- | its an ability that can be applied to buildings if you want |
| 14:43.33 | Arthas- | say |
| 14:43.33 | Thels | good |
| 14:43.35 | Arthas- | make a stash |
| 14:43.36 | Arthas- | :D |
| 14:43.45 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 14:43.52 | Thels | a stash? |
| 14:43.52 | Arthas- | I wonder if its possible to make a sharable inventory |
| 14:44.04 | vjeux | btw the notion of hero is a combination of: XP + Level(Veterancy), Hero (the little icon bottom right) and Inventory |
| 14:44.06 | Thels | would you be able to see the inventory and the stash at the same time, then? |
| 14:44.12 | Thels | else it doesn't seem that useful |
| 14:44.13 | vjeux | all 3 can be applied separatly |
| 14:44.13 | Arthas- | say create a building owned by you, invuln then give it an inventory |
| 14:44.23 | Arthas- | thels nope |
| 14:44.28 | Arthas- | you will have to drag item to the unit |
| 14:44.28 | Thels | hmm |
| 14:44.48 | Alevice_Work | attributes too |
| 14:44.51 | Thels | then maybe have a 2nd "backpack" only usable on some places of the map sounds better |
| 14:44.52 | Arthas- | what ever happened to veterancy |
| 14:44.56 | Arthas- | I liked that touch on terran |
| 14:45.07 | Arthas- | although that would bring even more imbalance to mmm |
| 14:45.14 | Alevice_Work | ??? |
| 14:45.23 | Thels | little icon bottom right? |
| 14:45.28 | Arthas- | " then maybe have a 2nd "backpack" only usable on some places of the map sounds better" I wonder if thats possible |
| 14:45.37 | Arthas- | w/o triggers |
| 14:45.41 | Thels | It would be nice if it would |
| 14:45.42 | Thels | uhm |
| 14:45.49 | Thels | don't see the point of without triggers |
| 14:45.53 | Arthas- | perhaps by using validator |
| 14:45.58 | Arthas- | thels |
| 14:46.11 | Arthas- | the datasystem in sc2 is so much more powerful than in wc3 |
| 14:46.20 | Arthas- | basically you can make an rpg map by only editing datafiles |
| 14:46.31 | Arthas- | using triggers only for dialgoue and quests etc |
| 14:46.46 | Arthas- | uberultralisk is a good example |
| 14:46.55 | Thels | tryue |
| 14:46.58 | Thels | *true |
| 14:46.59 | Arthas- | the power of xml editing is what impressed me most |
| 14:47.00 | Thels | but still |
| 14:47.08 | Thels | it wouldn't worry me much if I'd have to add a trigger |
| 14:47.25 | Thels | I worry mostly about if things CAN be done |
| 14:47.30 | Thels | not how they're done |
| 14:47.36 | vjeux | everything can be done |
| 14:47.43 | Alevice_Work | hey, inv systems could be done in wc3 |
| 14:47.44 | vjeux | but the complexity is a big factor :p |
| 14:47.51 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work with triggers :p |
| 14:47.51 | Alevice_Work | so the imagination and skill are the limits |
| 14:48.05 | Arthas- | thels a good habbit is to go the simple but yet efficient way |
| 14:48.15 | Thels | Arthas-> true |
| 14:48.19 | vjeux | because no one does something that is hard to do |
| 14:48.27 | Thels | if it can be done more efficient than with triggers, then so much the better |
| 14:48.35 | Thels | but if it will require triggers, then so be it |
| 14:49.09 | Arthas- | im kinda interested in the FPS mod, somewhat |
| 14:49.10 | Thels | Heck, I wrote an SC1 map with 1175 triggers once |
| 14:49.11 | Arthas- | not due to the fps |
| 14:49.16 | Thels | and it wasn't actually really finished :P |
| 14:49.22 | Arthas- | but the fact that we might get to use mousegestures ala black & white in sc2 |
| 14:49.27 | Arthas- | sexy |
| 14:49.51 | Alevice_Work | i hoope we gte gestuires and shot |
| 14:49.56 | Arthas- | unless they just alow us to lock camera to unit and then turn camera using mouse |
| 14:50.27 | Thels | Hmm |
| 14:50.29 | Thels | actually |
| 14:50.37 | Thels | I think I'm gonna mess with players a bit |
| 14:50.45 | Thels | someone said 15 players could be done fine |
| 14:50.52 | Thels | but 16+ would cause problems |
| 14:52.14 | vjeux | http://i.imgur.com/cSNAW.jpg |
| 14:52.16 | vjeux | what do you see |
| 14:53.04 | Arthas- | vjeux seriously |
| 14:53.10 | Arthas- | i see nekkid woman and guy behind |
| 14:53.10 | Hati | 2 dolhpins surrounding 2 humans are making out each other |
| 14:53.12 | vjeux | don't you see the dolphins ? :p |
| 14:53.13 | Arthas- | dont tell me what it really is |
| 14:53.17 | Arthas- | i dont wanna see anything else |
| 14:53.19 | Arthas- | FUCKER |
| 14:53.33 | Arthas- | hm |
| 14:53.42 | Thels | prehistoric porn ftl? |
| 14:53.44 | Arthas- | ya i do :( |
| 14:53.55 | Arthas- | thels all porn that is not 2 guys is good porn |
| 14:53.59 | Arthas- | ALL |
| 14:54.25 | lolwut__ | 3 guys? |
| 14:54.45 | Arthas- | screw you guys, im going back to item fiddling :p |
| 14:54.49 | Thels | 1 guy is too many lready |
| 14:55.07 | Thels | Hmm |
| 14:55.24 | lolwut__ | big content (galaxy!) patch should be veery soon |
| 14:55.26 | lolwut__ | >< |
| 14:55.32 | vjeux | link? |
| 14:55.36 | Arthas- | pffft |
| 14:55.43 | Arthas- | i still claim GE is not happening |
| 14:55.44 | Thels | Every time I open a map in Milky Way, I get something "Unsupported XML tag: Cost" |
| 14:56.00 | Thels | is that suppost to happen? |
| 14:56.04 | vjeux | yes |
| 14:56.04 | Thels | lolwut__> why? |
| 14:56.12 | vjeux | it should be fixed in the latest dev versions |
| 14:57.05 | nicoli_s | Thels: yes thats fixed in the latest version |
| 14:57.19 | nicoli_s | lolwut__: whered you hear that? |
| 14:57.29 | Thels | that one's not downloadable, right |
| 14:57.31 | Thels | ?? |
| 14:57.44 | Zoxc | the dev version needs to work with .NET 4 =P |
| 14:57.45 | nicoli_s | not yet thels |
| 14:57.47 | Arthas- | i think everyone in here have highlight on galaxy :p |
| 14:57.57 | vjeux | http://sc2movie.com/devtracker/2-24262407105/galaxy-editor-question.html |
| 14:58.02 | Alevice_Work | why rtghe fuck use .net4 |
| 14:58.03 | nicoli_s | waiting for sholdak to commit his code before i release a new version |
| 14:58.06 | Alevice_Work | so only devs can use it? |
| 14:58.24 | Alevice_Work | seriously, I am not installing yet another net framework until most apps require it |
| 14:59.28 | Zoxc | .NET 4 fixes WPF =P |
| 14:59.29 | Arthas- | nicoli_s Ill have items w some documentation done by tonight |
| 14:59.42 | vjeux | great! |
| 14:59.46 | Thels | So during beta is the plan |
| 14:59.47 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work are you going to work more on pawnshop / talk w greg |
| 14:59.52 | Thels | doesn't mean we'll see it anywhere soon |
| 14:59.56 | Alevice_Work | ltae tonight, yes |
| 14:59.58 | Arthas- | ~seen greg21 |
| 15:00.03 | purl | Arthas-: i haven't seen 'greg21' |
| 15:00.03 | Alevice_Work | i cant right now |
| 15:00.03 | Alevice_Work | can you guess why? |
| 15:00.12 | Arthas- | ~seen gregv21 |
| 15:00.13 | purl | gregv21 <~gregv21@c-24-60-181-167.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 13h 26s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 15:00.22 | Arthas- | no one replied to greg :( |
| 15:00.27 | Thels | hmm |
| 15:00.30 | Thels | in the File Browser |
| 15:00.38 | Thels | am I supposed to see each file 3 times? |
| 15:00.42 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work id say your boss can see what you are doing |
| 15:00.43 | Arthas- | :D |
| 15:00.47 | nicoli_s | Arthas-: awesome |
| 15:01.04 | nicoli_s | thels: dunno bout that, thats sholdak code, but ill look into it |
| 15:01.07 | Arthas- | btw |
| 15:01.15 | Arthas- | <Sxxxx> what are they? |
| 15:01.27 | Thels | nicoli_s> Could it be that I opened 3 different maps, until I got the right one? |
| 15:01.30 | Arthas- | in itemdata.xml from core there is <SCost> |
| 15:01.35 | Arthas- | no idea what that one does |
| 15:02.01 | Thels | Arthas-> Sounds like you should be able to buy items from shops? |
| 15:02.02 | nicoli_s | thels: probably :P we need to improve the clearing out of old stuff when opening new maps |
| 15:02.12 | Arthas- | thels i think greg did that already |
| 15:02.13 | Alevice_Work | struyct base data, i think |
| 15:02.41 | Alevice_Work | structs have no standalone calatolg entries, but always exist within |
| 15:02.47 | Alevice_Work | like |
| 15:02.57 | Thels | nicoli_s> Also, is there a way to extract the files in the File Browser? |
| 15:03.06 | Thels | or do we need a separate MPQ Viewer for that? |
| 15:03.12 | Arthas- | also |
| 15:03.14 | Arthas- | there is <CostResource Index = "Minerals" value = "50" /> |
| 15:03.30 | Arthas- | thats applied to the unit linking to the item and this one sets the cost >O |
| 15:03.31 | Thels | so it's as expensive as an SCV? |
| 15:03.52 | Arthas- | nope |
| 15:03.53 | Arthas- | probe |
| 15:04.27 | Arthas- | :p |
| 15:05.07 | nicoli_s | Arthas: i always wondered what the costresource on the unit is for |
| 15:05.19 | nicoli_s | since its in the ability that the resources you pay to build/train it is |
| 15:05.41 | Thels | nicoli_s> repair costs? |
| 15:05.48 | Alevice_Work | doesnt it dfeault to unit cost if you dont specify it on the train thing? |
| 15:05.52 | Thels | or is repair costs independant from the native costs? |
| 15:06.00 | Arthas- | btw anyone know what c_unitFlagIgnoreTerrainZInit is ? |
| 15:06.17 | Arthas- | # <RefundFraction Index = "Minerals" value = "100" /> |
| 15:06.17 | Arthas- | # <RefundFraction index = "Vespene" value = "100" /> <RefundFraction Index = "Vespene" value = "100" /> |
| 15:06.17 | Arthas- | # <RefundFraction index = "Terrazine" value = "100" /> <RefundFraction Index = "Terrazine" value = "100" /> |
| 15:06.17 | Arthas- | # <RefundFraction index = "Custom" value = "100" /> <RefundFraction Index = "Custom" value = "100" /> |
| 15:06.27 | Arthas- | err |
| 15:06.32 | Thels | Arthas-> Sounds to me like whatever has that flag, should ignore map height |
| 15:06.35 | Arthas- | terrainZ is height or something i guess |
| 15:06.40 | Arthas- | but wtf is terrazine |
| 15:06.54 | Alevice_Work | terrazine is another resource |
| 15:06.55 | vjeux | a custom money |
| 15:07.00 | Alevice_Work | we have 4 resources available |
| 15:07.12 | Alevice_Work | terrazine current icon is the same as energy |
| 15:07.13 | Thels | any way to increase it? |
| 15:07.13 | Arthas- | vespene terrazine and custom? |
| 15:07.15 | Thels | or is 4 the cap? |
| 15:07.21 | Alevice_Work | and custom icon is the same as health icon |
| 15:07.23 | Arthas- | thats damn nice |
| 15:07.23 | Hati | might be possible to increase |
| 15:07.32 | Alevice_Work | i think 4 is the cap |
| 15:07.36 | Alevice_Work | but i am not certain |
| 15:07.41 | Arthas- | blizzard most likely put lots of time for modders down in sc2 |
| 15:07.45 | Arthas- | prolly much thanks to dota |
| 15:07.53 | Arthas- | and other large custom maps |
| 15:08.49 | vjeux | Arthas- probably because there are more people playing customs than ladder :p |
| 15:09.06 | Arthas- | but hey |
| 15:09.13 | Arthas- | they still didnt add any modding to d3 |
| 15:09.21 | Arthas- | guess its due to the same reason |
| 15:09.22 | Thels | of course not |
| 15:09.23 | Arthas- | :p |
| 15:09.23 | vjeux | we don't know much abou d3 yet |
| 15:09.27 | Hati | why should they oO |
| 15:09.32 | Arthas- | they have already said fuck modding |
| 15:09.34 | Hati | in d3 you just smack down everything |
| 15:09.34 | Arthas- | and when asked why |
| 15:09.37 | Arthas- | randomized maps |
| 15:09.45 | Arthas- | hati, there are some nice d2 mods |
| 15:09.51 | vjeux | I mean, they must allow us to mod d3 |
| 15:09.52 | Hati | i know public bnet |
| 15:09.55 | Arthas- | kingpins d2 mod is the most impressive one imo |
| 15:10.12 | Arthas- | but he did most of the stuff on 1.10 hexing |
| 15:11.02 | Arthas- | also the keep seems kinda unstable :p |
| 15:11.05 | Arthas- | moving around alot |
| 15:11.29 | Thels | Hmm |
| 15:11.41 | Thels | what's the easiest MPQ extractor out there nowadays? |
| 15:11.54 | Thels | to extract files from the .s2ma files? |
| 15:11.57 | Arthas- | gogo winmpq! :p |
| 15:12.06 | Arthas- | is shadowflare still active |
| 15:12.15 | Thels | ShadowFlare? |
| 15:12.19 | Thels | Haven't talked to her in ages |
| 15:12.23 | Thels | wouldn't know |
| 15:12.23 | nicoli_s | mpq editor > winmpq |
| 15:12.54 | Arthas- | mpq editor = graphical or console? |
| 15:13.28 | Thels | so basically the old SC1 utilities are still used for this? |
| 15:14.07 | Thels | well, WinMPQ was last updated january of this year |
| 15:14.08 | Arthas- | i dont think much has changed |
| 15:14.11 | Thels | so that's reasonably active |
| 15:14.30 | Thels | the only thing that really changed is that newer games have an index file in all their MPQs |
| 15:14.35 | Thels | makes stuff a lot easier |
| 15:14.44 | nicoli_s | mpq editor is gui |
| 15:14.46 | Thels | For SC/War2bne we had to guess the filenames |
| 15:14.48 | nicoli_s | and its still being worked on |
| 15:14.55 | Arthas- | well then |
| 15:15.00 | Arthas- | I might just abandon winmpq then |
| 15:15.06 | Arthas- | been my pal therough all these years |
| 15:15.09 | Arthas- | that and mpq2k |
| 15:15.24 | nicoli_s | winmpq cant even handle some wow mpqs if i recall |
| 15:15.53 | Arthas- | ie not read em at all and crash or miss stuff out when opening |
| 15:16.08 | Arthas- | it handled all the sc2 mpqs fine as far as i can tell :p |
| 15:16.45 | Arthas- | WinMPQ.zip (250 KB) Last updated 12:27 AM January 6, 2010 - by ShadowFlare - Total downloads: 19471 |
| 15:16.53 | Thels | hmm |
| 15:16.54 | Thels | weird |
| 15:16.54 | Arthas- | not that late update |
| 15:17.04 | Arthas- | errr |
| 15:17.08 | Arthas- | updated not long ago* |
| 15:17.13 | Thels | why does the map ave strings in 12 languages |
| 15:17.19 | Thels | if you can only play it on one continent |
| 15:17.49 | Arthas- | will most likely be same client at release |
| 15:18.03 | Arthas- | i can prolly use EU client to play US server w us acc |
| 15:18.34 | Arthas- | then at install it just looks at locale settings and installs the appropriate version |
| 15:18.42 | nicoli_s | yah itll prob be the same client, with diff .sc2data files for diff locales |
| 15:19.10 | Thels | hmm |
| 15:19.17 | Thels | but there is no enGB entry in the map |
| 15:19.47 | Arthas- | will prolly automatically use enUS then :p |
| 15:19.52 | Thels | yeah |
| 15:19.53 | Thels | hmm |
| 15:19.54 | Thels | funny |
| 15:20.06 | Thels | I didn't know notepad could display russian and chinese fonts |
| 15:20.39 | Thels | what localization is ptBR? |
| 15:20.42 | nicoli_s | me neither :P |
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| 15:21.18 | Thels | or esMX |
| 15:21.29 | Thels | both prBR and esMX have blank entries |
| 15:22.20 | Arthas- | no idea |
| 15:24.24 | Arthas- | btw vjeux |
| 15:24.46 | Arthas- | whiel you were pinged out we talked about a bug tracker on the site |
| 15:25.10 | Arthas- | although it might be simpler to just have a forum post with only bugs in it |
| 15:25.18 | Arthas- | im sure blizz would look there too |
| 15:25.27 | vjeux | hmm |
| 15:25.36 | Arthas- | posting w sc2accs might not be that brilliant |
| 15:25.41 | vjeux | going to make a thread where we can put bugs |
| 15:25.57 | Thels | Can anyone recommend a decent free (not shareware) hex editor? |
| 15:26.13 | Arthas- | put some basic rules up to keep chattering out, more or less posts bugs and solutions / corrections regarding bugs |
| 15:26.14 | vjeux | free in what sense? :p |
| 15:26.21 | Arthas- | thels just download hex workshop |
| 15:26.22 | Arthas- | :p |
| 15:26.24 | Thels | as in, downloadable from the web |
| 15:26.36 | Arthas- | hw32v501 |
| 15:26.40 | vjeux | what bugs are you talking about? blizzard bugs that make the game crash for example? |
| 15:26.41 | Arthas- | 3564550408-551197-66A6 |
| 15:26.56 | Arthas- | vjeux I think ive found two bugs for inventory |
| 15:27.03 | vjeux | ok |
| 15:27.07 | Arthas- | No way to stack items ingame? Tried having same itemtype with max set to 5 and start to 5. Then used |
| 15:27.08 | Arthas- | 4 on one of the items and 1 on the other, but was unable to stack the two together. Same with start |
| 15:27.08 | Arthas- | set to 1 with max as 5. Other than that it works great! |
| 15:27.10 | Arthas- | that is one |
| 15:27.30 | vjeux | hmm, make a post to see if more people are having the same issue |
| 15:27.37 | vjeux | maybe that's something we don't understand yet |
| 15:27.41 | Arthas- | then, if you have two instances of the same item or two items that gives same ability, in this case permanentcloak and then remove one of the items, the cloak disappears |
| 15:27.48 | Arthas- | vjeux yeah, that struck me too |
| 15:28.57 | Arthas- | <Link value="Item/MyItem"/> |
| 15:28.57 | Arthas- | <Location value="Unit/Item"/> |
| 15:29.13 | Arthas- | for all i know i might have to add those, although stacking works w/o |
| 15:29.25 | Arthas- | i dont see *why* though |
| 15:38.49 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/315-blizzard-bugs-report-them/#p2 |
| 15:38.52 | vjeux | something like that? |
| 15:39.39 | ckknight | http://i.imgur.com/8aCuc.png |
| 15:41.45 | vjeux | too much text -_- |
| 15:43.33 | Arthas- | yeah something like that works great |
| 15:43.48 | vjeux | go for it ;) |
| 15:43.56 | Thels | lol |
| 15:44.07 | Thels | dude hates his kids, but of course doesn't blame himself |
| 15:44.41 | vjeux | http://dmitrysoshnikov.com/ecmascript/ |
| 15:44.47 | vjeux | for all those who think they know javascript |
| 15:44.55 | Arthas- | i dont |
| 15:44.58 | Arthas- | i hate javascript |
| 15:44.59 | Arthas- | :p |
| 15:45.06 | vjeux | this is an in-depth explanation of the javascript mechanisms through the reading of the specs |
| 15:45.17 | ckknight | I do, I don't enjoy its backend architecture |
| 15:45.18 | vjeux | very interesting read |
| 15:45.20 | ckknight | i.e. that of ecmascript |
| 15:45.30 | ckknight | the concept of 'this' is too deranged for my liking |
| 15:45.40 | vjeux | yeah the this is so strange |
| 15:49.22 | Arthas- | soo guys |
| 15:49.27 | Arthas- | i figured weaponclasses out |
| 15:50.13 | Hati | ? |
| 15:50.51 | ckknight | cool |
| 15:50.55 | ckknight | document! |
| 15:50.58 | Arthas- | I am :) |
| 15:51.00 | Arthas- | or well |
| 15:51.09 | Arthas- | renee got it wrong |
| 15:51.13 | ckknight | hmm |
| 15:51.18 | Arthas- | the Classes tag dont go in the cabil |
| 15:51.19 | vjeux | renee is a noob! |
| 15:51.22 | Arthas- | but rather in the slot |
| 15:51.40 | Arthas- | And it doesnt seem like you can allow several itemclasses in one slow |
| 15:51.56 | Arthas- | unless... |
| 15:51.56 | Arthas- | brb |
| 15:52.23 | Arthas- | yeah you can :) |
| 15:58.36 | Grum | AMAGAWFD |
| 15:58.38 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.55 | Thels | btw |
| 15:59.02 | Thels | anyone in here have experience with the boardgame? |
| 15:59.05 | Thels | know if it's any good? |
| 16:03.34 | nicoli_s | what boardgame? |
| 16:05.53 | Arthas- | solved hotkey too |
| 16:06.01 | Arthas- | this is going brilliantly |
| 16:06.01 | Thels | this one |
| 16:06.03 | Thels | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhSuMiGBGI |
| 16:06.10 | Thels | there's also a Brood War expansion for it |
| 16:06.30 | Arthas- | does anyone know where hotkeys are defined? |
| 16:08.38 | nicoli_s | Arthas-: in gamestrings.txt |
| 16:08.43 | Arthas- | ya found it :) |
| 16:08.50 | Arthas- | going to try and use UI/LeaderPaneIncome_Hotkey=I as hotkey |
| 16:09.31 | Arthas- | worked like a charm |
| 16:09.54 | nicoli_s | sweet |
| 16:09.57 | Arthas- | does someone know if a custom gamestrings in the map is applied? |
| 16:10.02 | nicoli_s | it is |
| 16:10.08 | Arthas- | Sweet :) |
| 16:10.13 | nicoli_s | look at vjeux's td |
| 16:10.20 | nicoli_s | MWE already supports it :P |
| 16:10.25 | Thels | hmm |
| 16:10.25 | Thels | lol |
| 16:10.30 | Thels | even if I play against 3 computers |
| 16:10.34 | Thels | I can still lag? |
| 16:11.34 | nicoli_s | apparently so :P |
| 16:11.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@149-169-60-221.nat.asu.edu) |
| 16:11.56 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 16:12.38 | vjeux | hey sixen |
| 16:13.32 | Sixen | hai vjeux~ |
| 16:14.07 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/abil-data-xml/ by HPX |
| 16:15.33 | nicoli_s | yo sixen |
| 16:16.08 | Sixen | sup nic~ |
| 16:16.10 | nicoli_s | i got something you could work on in MWe if yer interested |
| 16:16.20 | Sixen | Sure thing |
| 16:17.02 | Grum | mmm for some reason i am experiencing increased loadtimes for the maps that normally loaded nearly instantly |
| 16:17.56 | Alevice_Work | "both prBR and esMX have blank entries" portuguese brazil and spanish mexico |
| 16:18.37 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/item-container-data-xml/ by HPX |
| 16:18.53 | Arthas- | time to make some food |
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| 16:31.53 | Iggyhopper | nicoli_s |
| 16:31.55 | Iggyhopper | yooo |
| 16:31.57 | Iggyhopper | vjeux |
| 16:32.10 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 16:32.12 | Arthas- | :( |
| 16:32.13 | nicoli_s | heya Iggyhopper |
| 16:32.13 | vjeux | ? |
| 16:32.17 | Iggyhopper | ??????????! |
| 16:32.22 | vjeux | i'm 2nd |
| 16:32.24 | vjeux | wth |
| 16:32.25 | Iggyhopper | Okay did you make a b.net post yet? |
| 16:32.28 | Arthas- | im not even mentioned |
| 16:32.29 | vjeux | nop |
| 16:32.30 | Arthas- | :p |
| 16:32.39 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 16:32.42 | Arthas- | hi Iggyhopper |
| 16:32.43 | Arthas- | :p |
| 16:32.46 | Iggyhopper | hi Arthas |
| 16:32.51 | Arthas- | much better |
| 16:32.53 | Iggyhopper | WTF IS WITH THE PLUUUUS? |
| 16:32.54 | Arthas- | :p |
| 16:32.58 | Iggyhopper | A pluse |
| 16:33.02 | Iggyhopper | hehe |
| 16:33.07 | Iggyhopper | el french |
| 16:33.19 | Arthas- | if anyone of you see greg drop in |
| 16:33.23 | Grum | mmm removing the cliffCellList section from the t3Terrain.xml prevents the map from being loaded |
| 16:33.35 | Arthas- | ask if he feels like posting example map of pawnshop |
| 16:34.31 | PixelWarrior | working shop? |
| 16:35.06 | nicoli_s | maybe something else references it grum, and needs it to be there |
| 16:36.03 | Hati | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767187579&sid=5000 |
| 16:36.05 | Hati | hmm |
| 16:36.11 | Hati | Once again, division by zero claims another victim. |
| 16:36.17 | Sixen | HP, isn't Greg == Iggy? |
| 16:37.04 | Grum | or more specific, changing the f=1 to f=0 does |
| 16:37.21 | vjeux | what's f? |
| 16:38.25 | Grum | <cc i="6508" f="2" cid="0" cvar="0"/> |
| 16:38.34 | Grum | in t3Terrain.xml cliffCellList |
| 16:38.41 | vjeux | write it to the bug thread :) |
| 16:38.48 | Grum | no idea if it is a bug |
| 16:39.49 | Grum | f=2 means ramp cliff |
| 16:40.06 | Grum | mmm no it doesnt ... |
| 16:40.07 | Grum | meh |
| 16:40.17 | Grum | but with f=1 all cliffs appear to be there |
| 16:42.07 | nicoli_s | btw vjeux, i think Arthas- figured out some of those item stuff you have in yer post arent needed |
| 16:42.12 | nicoli_s | like the command array |
| 16:42.24 | vjeux | the post I translated? |
| 16:43.04 | nicoli_s | yah\ |
| 16:43.20 | vjeux | hmm, he should answer that post :p |
| 16:43.21 | Sixen | Tutorials forum is made. |
| 16:43.34 | vjeux | I don't really dig into the hero stuff yet |
| 16:43.47 | Sixen | It's a Map Dev sub-forum atm, do we want it there or under Development wit hthe other 2? |
| 16:44.03 | vjeux | yes |
| 16:44.06 | Sixen | ;) |
| 16:44.38 | Arthas- | the command array? |
| 16:44.45 | Arthas- | ah |
| 16:45.00 | Arthas- | i have honestly not found any use of those parts in the commandarray |
| 16:45.05 | nicoli_s | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/314-how-to-inventory-system-in-8-points/ <- there arthas |
| 16:45.26 | Arthas- | e_abilInventoryCmdMove |
| 16:45.27 | Arthas- | e_abilInventoryCmdDrop |
| 16:45.34 | Arthas- | those among others are from sc2.exe |
| 16:45.44 | Arthas- | I assume they are implemented into cabilinvetory |
| 16:45.49 | Arthas- | inventory* |
| 16:45.56 | Arthas- | ah that post |
| 16:46.18 | Arthas- | thats more or less a template i think |
| 16:46.38 | Arthas- | Im roughly going after that when ill begin tutorial later |
| 16:47.04 | Arthas- | nicoli_s Ive updated itemcontainer and abildata with the relevant item stuffs |
| 16:47.11 | nicoli_s | awesome thx |
| 16:47.17 | nicoli_s | you mean the gamedata docs right? |
| 16:47.18 | Arthas- | itemdata.xml will come later tonight |
| 16:47.21 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 16:47.27 | nicoli_s | great |
| 16:47.31 | vjeux | nice |
| 16:47.34 | nicoli_s | will need that when i add support for it in MWE :) |
| 16:47.39 | Arthas- | hehe |
| 16:48.17 | Arthas- | but i still cant help to think that the inability to stack items by putting dropping one of them on the other is a bug |
| 16:48.41 | Sixen | Report it! :) |
| 16:48.43 | vjeux | are there stackable items available? |
| 16:48.51 | Iggyhopper | yes |
| 16:48.51 | Arthas- | vjeux ya i found out how to do it |
| 16:48.57 | Iggyhopper | NO I DID |
| 16:48.59 | Iggyhopper | UR GEY |
| 16:49.02 | Arthas- | ? |
| 16:49.02 | Sixen | :o |
| 16:49.02 | vjeux | maybe it's not a bug but a feature ... |
| 16:49.07 | Iggyhopper | EXCTLY |
| 16:49.12 | Arthas- | you did? =O |
| 16:49.20 | Sixen | Also vjeux, good idea with the bug report thread. |
| 16:49.23 | Iggyhopper | no |
| 16:49.25 | Iggyhopper | LL |
| 16:49.27 | Iggyhopper | LOLOl |
| 16:49.31 | vjeux | the idea goes to Arthas- :p |
| 16:49.39 | Iggyhopper | yes |
| 16:49.42 | Arthas- | ive done lots of stuff today :p |
| 16:49.50 | Iggyhopper | BUT HES STILLL A PIRATEFGT |
| 16:49.51 | vjeux | it's Arthas- day :p |
| 16:49.54 | Arthas- | -( vjeux ): maybe it's not a bug but a feature ... - Yeah I considered it |
| 16:50.01 | Iggyhopper | lul |
| 16:50.10 | Arthas- | but i dont see a point in it :p |
| 16:50.18 | Arthas- | perhaps missing a flag or something |
| 16:50.31 | Iggyhopper | You can't drop items on one another? |
| 16:50.33 | vjeux | or maybe not yet implemented |
| 16:50.37 | Arthas- | Iggyhopper nope |
| 16:50.39 | Arthas- | uhm |
| 16:50.48 | Iggyhopper | You couldn't do that in WC3 either. |
| 16:50.55 | vjeux | but you can in wow! |
| 16:51.05 | Arthas- | nicoli_s |
| 16:51.05 | Arthas- | http://sc2mapster.pastebin.com/2zCR6EkD |
| 16:51.10 | Iggyhopper | Wait, it probably has to do with some sort of <Radius> tag? |
| 16:51.18 | vjeux | btw what's the mule thing? |
| 16:51.20 | Arthas- | non-documented |
| 16:51.29 | Arthas- | its just an item i named calldownmule |
| 16:52.05 | Arthas- | the vital tag goes under effectcost aswell, just commented out, to lazy to add mana to ma zealot |
| 16:52.20 | Arthas- | and that transient flag.... i still have no clue what it does :D |
| 16:52.34 | Arthas- | nor do i know what refundfraction does yet |
| 16:52.52 | Arthas- | but from renees post |
| 16:52.53 | Arthas- | RefundFraction |
| 16:52.53 | Arthas- | ????\??????????? Effect recovery of \ cancel when the rate of return of resources. ???Shift?????????,????,??????????? Shift your items such as a build effect, and also canceled, the money would of course be returned to you, right? |
| 16:53.19 | PixelWarrior | yep |
| 16:53.20 | Arthas- | i tried chaning minerals to 100 to see if it would start feeding me, it didnt |
| 16:53.20 | vjeux | it looks like it's when you drop the item on a shop |
| 16:53.23 | vjeux | you win back money |
| 16:53.27 | Arthas- | well vjeux |
| 16:53.30 | Arthas- | that was my thought too |
| 16:53.36 | Arthas- | that however seems to be false looking at pawnshop |
| 16:53.38 | vjeux | he did 2 screenshots that explained it |
| 16:53.41 | Arthas- | http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://bbs.islga.org/read-htm-tid-39732.html&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhhTdkRC-6tq8B0pF_pLnLvXYYXqyg |
| 16:53.55 | Sixen | Anyone know the answer to this: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-brainstorming/301-making-3d-models/?post=18 ? |
| 16:53.57 | Grum | t3Terrains cliffCellList is mandatory to display cliffs .. yay and we have no idea how the points relate to the ids |
| 16:53.58 | Arthas- | the pawnability has the fields <RefundFraction Index = "Minerals" value = "1" /> |
| 16:54.06 | Sixen | I don't know how WorldEdit worked, but i'm guessing it's similar. |
| 16:54.11 | Arthas- | where the integer is well, a number reprecenting percentage |
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| 16:54.15 | Arthas- | a float even |
| 16:54.17 | Arthas- | 1 = 100 |
| 16:54.26 | Iggyhopper | 0.3 = 30% |
| 16:54.39 | Iggyhopper | 0.9001 = well, you know |
| 16:54.42 | Arthas- | and when selling it looks at the item itself, costresource <CostResource Index = "Minerals" value = "50" /> |
| 16:54.44 | Arthas- | from unit |
| 16:54.53 | Iggyhopper | vjeux |
| 16:54.54 | vjeux | yes |
| 16:54.59 | Arthas- | at least thats what i get from reading his post w/o testing |
| 16:55.06 | Iggyhopper | What do i link to? |
| 16:55.08 | Arthas- | thats why I would like greg to post some info since he got pawnshop working |
| 16:55.12 | Iggyhopper | news? the video? |
| 16:55.16 | vjeux | the news post |
| 16:55.19 | Iggyhopper | making post on bnet |
| 16:55.21 | Iggyhopper | o |
| 16:55.31 | Alevice_Work | <Arthas-> e_abilInventoryCmdMove |
| 16:55.32 | Alevice_Work | <Arthas-> e_abilInventoryCmdDrop |
| 16:55.38 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work |
| 16:55.44 | Arthas- | i got itemclasses to work |
| 16:55.45 | Arthas- | :) |
| 16:55.55 | vjeux | what I understand is: You add Abil = PawnItems to the building |
| 16:56.00 | vjeux | you drop the item on the building |
| 16:56.09 | Arthas- | one has to think outside the box and realize those gods might actually do wrong |
| 16:56.12 | vjeux | and you win Refund / 100 * Item Cost |
| 16:56.18 | Alevice_Work | those are used when you perform said actions. they are not exactly visibkle under a button, but for example, when you are about to drop an item, you can make a button that shows up in the command crad. |
| 16:56.30 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work exactly |
| 16:56.32 | Arthas- | thats my though |
| 16:56.34 | Alevice_Work | explain itemclasses artes |
| 16:56.43 | Arthas- | therefor there never was any need to add the comdbuttonarrays like renee did |
| 16:56.50 | Arthas- | Alevice_Work sure |
| 16:56.52 | Alevice_Work | errm, sorta |
| 16:56.55 | Arthas- | they are slotbound |
| 16:57.00 | Alevice_Work | lemme show my screenies |
| 16:57.15 | Arthas- | bring it |
| 16:57.21 | Alevice_Work | http://img401.imageshack.us/i/screenshot017m.jpg/ |
| 16:57.26 | Arthas- | they had Classes in cabilinventory |
| 16:57.37 | Alevice_Work | that one is shown for the use item cmd |
| 16:57.51 | Alevice_Work | there is also one when you drop items |
| 16:57.54 | Arthas- | if you intead place them on the slot |
| 16:58.01 | Arthas- | they bind to that itemclass |
| 16:58.06 | Alevice_Work | ohh sweet |
| 16:58.11 | Arthas- | if you want a slot to hold 2 itemclasses you add another instance |
| 16:58.22 | Alevice_Work | nice |
| 16:58.38 | vjeux | so you can have slot that can hold only arrows? :P |
| 16:58.39 | Arthas- | wtf |
| 16:58.50 | vjeux | wtb hunter arrow bags! |
| 16:58.50 | Alevice_Work | what Arthas- |
| 16:59.04 | Sixen | [Large Brown Sac] pl0x. |
| 16:59.05 | Sixen | ;) |
| 16:59.17 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/item-container-data-xml/ by HPX |
| 16:59.20 | Arthas- | syntax error in code on http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/item-container-data-xml/ |
| 16:59.21 | Arthas- | fixed it |
| 16:59.29 | Alevice_Work | ah |
| 16:59.31 | Iggyhopper | hati made this right? |
| 16:59.34 | Iggyhopper | the uerlisk |
| 16:59.34 | Arthas- | that shows you how to use slots |
| 16:59.35 | Iggyhopper | yeah |
| 16:59.46 | Arthas- | vjeux yeah |
| 16:59.52 | Alevice_Work | you know you can have al l slot crap within the slot tag? |
| 16:59.58 | Arthas- | has anyone played around with behaviourarray? |
| 17:00.00 | Iggyhopper | [Mysterious Coconut] plz kthx |
| 17:00.09 | Arthas- | say add behaviour to marine |
| 17:00.14 | Iggyhopper | i have |
| 17:00.14 | Alevice_Work | like <Slot Column="0" Row="0" Equip="0" /> |
| 17:00.16 | Iggyhopper | its cool |
| 17:00.23 | Iggyhopper | o nope |
| 17:00.25 | Iggyhopper | not with items |
| 17:00.26 | Arthas- | I was thinking say, marine can only fire while he has bullets |
| 17:00.37 | Arthas- | then use validator and behavoir arrays to make it so |
| 17:00.58 | Arthas- | i have no idea how the validator works though so maybe it cant be done :O |
| 17:01.09 | Arthas- | but im starting to get the hang of the xml files now :) |
| 17:01.12 | Alevice_Work | you use armmagazine for that tho |
| 17:01.25 | Iggyhopper | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24261119855&postId=242589077926&sid=3000#0 |
| 17:01.27 | Arthas- | possible to bind it to an item? |
| 17:01.35 | Alevice_Work | hmmm, not sure |
| 17:01.39 | Iggyhopper | binded for life yo |
| 17:01.41 | vjeux | Iggyhopper [u] around the url :) |
| 17:01.50 | PixelWarrior | with the container slots, do u have to specify <slot>...</slot> for every single slot u have in the bag? |
| 17:01.52 | Iggyhopper | dosent work? |
| 17:01.54 | Arthas- | also |
| 17:01.54 | Iggyhopper | right? |
| 17:01.59 | Iggyhopper | i tried |
| 17:02.06 | Arthas- | i figured out how to put hotkeys on the inventories |
| 17:02.10 | Iggyhopper | kol |
| 17:02.27 | Alevice_Work | ias it per slot too? |
| 17:02.39 | Arthas- | nah for bringing inventory up |
| 17:02.42 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 17:02.48 | Arthas- | I wonder if hotkey can be added to items too |
| 17:02.52 | Arthas- | need to test that later |
| 17:02.55 | Iggyhopper | oh [u] |
| 17:02.58 | Iggyhopper | as in underline |
| 17:03.00 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 17:03.06 | Iggyhopper | bumpedy bump plox |
| 17:03.55 | Hati | what? |
| 17:03.55 | Hati | huh? |
| 17:03.57 | Arthas- | afk forawhile now, well see if i can watch the entire movie wo running back to chat :D |
| 17:03.59 | Hati | my name was called |
| 17:04.00 | nicoli_s | arthas: i bet its possible |
| 17:04.14 | Iggyhopper | Hati! |
| 17:04.16 | Iggyhopper | hullo! |
| 17:04.21 | Arthas- | unless pawnable is done after powerup im doing that, then start w the behavoir etc |
| 17:04.22 | Iggyhopper | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24261119855&postId=242589077926&sid=3000#0 |
| 17:04.45 | vjeux | great |
| 17:04.55 | Arthas- | they didnt kid us when they said much of the stuff that was made in wc3 was doable w only dataedit in sc2 |
| 17:05.06 | Arthas- | I love it |
| 17:05.11 | nicoli_s | yeah i love that so much |
| 17:05.26 | nicoli_s | glad to see they are actually listening to modders |
| 17:05.37 | Arthas- | well |
| 17:05.41 | Fisker | btw nicoli_s |
| 17:05.43 | Fisker | i have to do this |
| 17:05.44 | Fisker | http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/10/04/14/862.png |
| 17:05.59 | Arthas- | 480? |
| 17:06.04 | Fisker | 480 |
| 17:06.05 | Arthas- | do want |
| 17:06.14 | Arthas- | or another 285 so i can install two more monitors |
| 17:06.22 | nicoli_s | i just saw it fisker, too bad i have 2 gigs of video memory :P |
| 17:06.59 | nicoli_s | i mean can you even run minesweeper with that crap card you posted? :P |
| 17:07.03 | Fisker | i don't think that's how it works with crossfire |
| 17:07.05 | Iggyhopper | TechPowerUp |
| 17:07.31 | nicoli_s | besides, my version number is higher so its by default better |
| 17:07.38 | Alevice_Work | <Slot Column="0" Row="0" Equip="0" /> works too niggas |
| 17:08.06 | PixelWarrior | do u have to specify that for every single slot? |
| 17:08.18 | Alevice_Work | seems liek it |
| 17:08.34 | PixelWarrior | thats alot of repeated code for 64 slot bags |
| 17:09.26 | vjeux|afk | use the parent="" stuff :) |
| 17:10.04 | PixelWarrior | link? |
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| 17:13.39 | Grum | t3CellFlags controls in which areas should be 'preparing' to have a cliff model, ea not drawing the world geometry in that location |
| 17:14.18 | nicoli_s | sweet grum |
| 17:14.35 | Grum | but i still dont get how it works exactly |
| 17:14.50 | Grum | the black areas that are created are 2x2 worldunits big |
| 17:14.59 | Sixen | Grum, have you talked with Technetium at all? he's doing terrain work as well |
| 17:15.05 | Grum | so that would mean each cliff covers 4 squares |
| 17:15.12 | Grum | Sixen: he is afk .. silly american |
| 17:15.24 | Sixen | I didn't say talk to him right now... :P. |
| 17:16.07 | nicoli_s | man i cant wait for my vacation to start!\ |
| 17:16.18 | Sixen | :P |
| 17:16.34 | nicoli_s | so sixen, are you coming to vegas btw? |
| 17:16.36 | Grum | well sofar it appears that we're sortof stuck with the map crap |
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| 17:17.32 | Sixen | wut!? |
| 17:17.35 | Sixen | I didn't get the invite. |
| 17:18.01 | nicoli_s | i wasnt sure who all was going, but i know the curse devs are going to vegas for a "retreat" |
| 17:18.17 | Fisker | those not going are fired |
| 17:18.18 | Sixen | Lucky you, :P. |
| 17:18.21 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:18.22 | Sixen | lol |
| 17:18.25 | Fisker | you mean the blizzard thing in vegas? |
| 17:18.35 | nicoli_s | no, fisker |
| 17:18.41 | Fisker | oh well |
| 17:18.44 | Fisker | previous statement then |
| 17:18.48 | Fisker | if you're not going, you're fired |
| 17:18.55 | nicoli_s | well sixen i just went like 3 weeks ago so its not too exciting :P |
| 17:19.45 | vjeux|afk | they didn't invite french people ... :( |
| 17:19.55 | Sixen | :P |
| 17:19.58 | Fisker | french people are fired by default |
| 17:20.17 | nicoli_s | vjeux|afk: for full time people only i think |
| 17:20.26 | Fisker | why am i not going nicoli_s ? |
| 17:20.41 | Fisker | Full time trolling is ver time-consuming |
| 17:20.44 | Fisker | very* |
| 17:21.23 | Hati | btw. is it possible to change nick for curse.com ? |
| 17:21.55 | nicoli_s | fisker, yer fired too |
| 17:22.09 | nicoli_s | there was actually an issue with payroll, we fired you years ago |
| 17:22.17 | nicoli_s | but you just keep showing up and trolling so we allow it |
| 17:22.27 | Sixen | hehe |
| 17:22.29 | nicoli_s | Hati: i dont think you can, ill ask though |
| 17:22.54 | vjeux|afk | nicoli_s: they considered it but the flying ticket is too expansive :p |
| 17:23.02 | nicoli_s | yah i figured |
| 17:23.12 | nicoli_s | and hubert is enough french guy for both of you :P |
| 17:23.35 | nicoli_s | and you do look like a mini-hubert, so ill just squint and pretend yer there |
| 17:23.38 | vjeux|afk | last time I talked to him he had such a US accent ... he lost all is frenchitude |
| 17:23.41 | Sixen | LOL |
| 17:24.15 | Sixen | Hati, it's hard to do, =|. Will have to talk to ckknight. |
| 17:24.17 | vjeux|afk | grr, I was supposed to be afk working on some school stuff ... |
| 17:24.22 | Sixen | Me too |
| 17:24.23 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:24.23 | Sixen | =( |
| 17:24.56 | Hati | kk |
| 17:25.18 | Fisker | why would you work on some school stuff away from the computer? |
| 17:25.52 | Sixen | Just away from bnet probably :p |
| 17:27.36 | nicoli_s | Alevice_Work: you around? |
| 17:27.45 | Grum | oh i can make a chees map |
| 17:27.52 | Grum | +e! |
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| 17:31.03 | Grum | http://sc2.grum.nl/cheesemap.jpg |
| 17:31.11 | Grum | holes everywhere |
| 17:31.37 | nicoli_s | lol very interesting |
| 17:32.45 | nicoli_s | woot! got itemclass, and itemcontainer being handled in MWE now |
| 17:32.52 | Grum | 03 next to a 00 or 02 gives a hole in the map |
| 17:33.08 | Grum | or actually .. 03 just makes holes :p |
| 17:34.53 | Arthas- | nicoli_s nice |
| 17:35.02 | Arthas- | im actually going to take a nap |
| 17:35.08 | Arthas- | slept 4h tonight before class |
| 17:35.33 | nicoli_s | Arthas-: got a sec for me to ask a question |
| 17:36.28 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13179498465&sid=1#5 <-what do you think nicoli_s ? |
| 17:36.56 | nicoli_s | how are CItem and CItemEffectTarget related? |
| 17:38.03 | Arthas- | <! - RefundFraction attribute used to specify the rate of return of resources, a representative of 100%. ?????????????????????????? Original funding of specific units in the unit's own consumption of resources in the specified property. --> -> |
| 17:38.25 | Arthas- | seems like the refundaction if placed on an item has priority over the one on pawnshop |
| 17:38.28 | Arthas- | nicoli_s |
| 17:39.03 | Iggyhopper | just replace " " with "$" |
| 17:39.06 | Arthas- | how do you mean |
| 17:39.11 | Iggyhopper | wait, wut |
| 17:39.16 | Iggyhopper | ??????????????????????? |
| 17:39.22 | nicoli_s | like how does the item reference the effects arthas? |
| 17:39.29 | nicoli_s | im looking at http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/280-items-and-heroes/ |
| 17:39.31 | nicoli_s | at the bottom |
| 17:39.32 | Iggyhopper | Grum |
| 17:39.36 | Iggyhopper | Holes, asplain. |
| 17:40.27 | Grum | ? :( |
| 17:40.28 | Iggyhopper | 03 just makes holes :p |
| 17:40.28 | Arthas- | well |
| 17:40.32 | Arthas- | <CarryWeaponArray Link="BattlecruiserG"/> |
| 17:40.32 | Arthas- | <EquipWeaponArray Link="BattlecruiserA"/> |
| 17:40.41 | Arthas- | those are the only ones used by citem afaik |
| 17:40.41 | Iggyhopper | o |
| 17:40.55 | Iggyhopper | Square terrain is supportes |
| 17:41.00 | Arthas- | they can however be applied to citemeffecttarget or citemeffectinstant aswell |
| 17:41.02 | nicoli_s | well then what is CItemEffectTarget used for? |
| 17:41.19 | Arthas- | err |
| 17:41.22 | Arthas- | ceffectinstant| |
| 17:41.27 | Grum | Iggyhopper: value 03 in t3CellFlags makes holes in the map |
| 17:41.32 | Arthas- | its used for in my example calling down mules |
| 17:41.44 | Arthas- | or you could put sniperability on it |
| 17:41.51 | nicoli_s | wheres yer example Arthas-? |
| 17:41.52 | Arthas- | ie, everyskill that requires target |
| 17:41.56 | nicoli_s | i just dont see what fields links they two |
| 17:42.02 | Arthas- | on page 2 |
| 17:42.08 | Arthas- | the two are not linked |
| 17:42.18 | Arthas- | citem is completely seperated from citemeffecttarget |
| 17:42.51 | Arthas- | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/2/453/TutorialHero.rar |
| 17:42.54 | Arthas- | thats alevice map |
| 17:43.01 | nicoli_s | then what is the use of citemeffecttarget if it doesnt connect to the item? |
| 17:43.08 | Arthas- | well |
| 17:43.18 | Arthas- | we have citem, citemeffecttarget, citemeffectinstant |
| 17:43.24 | Arthas- | think of them as three separate types |
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| 17:43.31 | Arthas- | citem for passive abilities when carried or equipped |
| 17:44.01 | Arthas- | citemeffecttarget for skills that require you to choose target after clicking it |
| 17:44.14 | Arthas- | citemeffectinstant for skills like potions etc |
| 17:44.26 | nicoli_s | oooo, so anything that references CItem can also ref CitemEffectinstant? |
| 17:44.46 | Arthas- | references_ )p |
| 17:44.58 | Arthas- | ah |
| 17:44.59 | Arthas- | yes |
| 17:45.00 | Arthas- | :) |
| 17:45.03 | nicoli_s | ok cool |
| 17:45.19 | Arthas- | now |
| 17:45.26 | Arthas- | the two latter ones, effecttarget and effectinstant |
| 17:45.36 | Arthas- | their structure should be identical according to renee |
| 17:46.10 | nicoli_s | mmk |
| 17:46.11 | Arthas- | http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://bbs.islga.org/read-htm-tid-39726.html&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhi8d2jiN09_0reZwkRK5n0fux0ihg |
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| 17:46.18 | Arthas- | then go to the CItemEffectInstant part |
| 17:46.33 | Arthas- | nvm |
| 17:46.59 | Arthas- | hmmm |
| 17:47.16 | Arthas- | I wonder if you can have a unit acting as an item link to both citem and citemtarget |
| 17:47.28 | Arthas- | ah well, really need some sleep now |
| 17:47.38 | Arthas- | ill be back in awhile |
| 17:47.42 | vjeux|afk | Arthas- |
| 17:47.50 | vjeux|afk | should be working the item + target |
| 17:47.55 | Arthas- | http://sc2mapster.pastebin.com/2zCR6EkD < explains charges |
| 17:48.10 | nicoli_s | awesome arthas, thx |
| 17:48.15 | Arthas- | np |
| 17:48.16 | vjeux|afk | at least we can do it for gather and gatherRepository |
| 17:48.26 | Arthas- | vjeux|afk ah ok |
| 17:48.37 | nicoli_s | should have MWE handling most item data by the end of the day |
| 17:48.42 | Arthas- | well, ill experiment some more later, if i find something ill update you |
| 17:48.50 | nicoli_s | preciate it |
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| 17:48.59 | Arthas- | ay, later :) |
| 17:49.04 | vjeux|afk | cya |
| 17:49.11 | Iggyhopper | oh so now we can have passive effects, and active effects, how can you tell if something is equippede? |
| 17:49.30 | vjeux|afk | UnitHas(item) ? :p |
| 17:49.40 | nicoli_s | Iggyhopper: dunno bout that yet, maybe if it has the equipeffect or not |
| 17:49.41 | Iggyhopper | ? |
| 17:49.50 | Iggyhopper | equip is in first bag? i dunno |
| 17:49.50 | Arthas- | what |
| 17:49.54 | Arthas- | uhm |
| 17:49.55 | nicoli_s | i think you can do it via itemclass too |
| 17:49.57 | Arthas- | to clarify that |
| 17:50.17 | Arthas- | each item has two behaviorfields and two weaponfields |
| 17:50.24 | Arthas- | # |
| 17:50.26 | Arthas- | <CarryBehaviorArray value="PermanentlyCloaked"/> |
| 17:50.28 | Arthas- | # |
| 17:50.30 | Arthas- | <CarryWeaponArray Link="BattlecruiserG"/> |
| 17:50.39 | Arthas- | <CarryBehaviorArray value="PermanentlyCloaked"/> |
| 17:50.39 | Arthas- | <CarryWeaponArray Link="BattlecruiserG"/> |
| 17:50.39 | Arthas- | <EquipBehaviorArray value="PermanentlyInvulnerable"/> |
| 17:50.39 | Arthas- | <EquipWeaponArray Link="BattlecruiserA"/> |
| 17:50.53 | Arthas- | if put in a slot marked with equip="1" |
| 17:51.00 | Arthas- | the equipbeahviors also kicks in |
| 17:51.09 | Arthas- | otherwise they are dormant while only carry is active |
| 17:51.41 | Arthas- | and yeah, separating that between a "bag" and an inventory called equipped items or so is prolly a good idea when telling the player where to put items :p |
| 17:52.05 | Arthas- | music on, eyes closed! |
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| 17:52.40 | nicoli_s | lol peace |
| 17:52.50 | nicoli_s | welcome JademusSreg |
| 17:54.13 | JademusSreg | Hihi. |
| 17:54.32 | JademusSreg | Anything interesting happen while I was asleep? |
| 17:54.53 | Bif | You snored |
| 17:55.09 | Bif | Oh hey i left my other mirc on? |
| 17:55.11 | nicoli_s | JademusSreg: not too much that i know of |
| 17:55.20 | Bifuu | i knew that |
| 17:56.23 | JademusSreg | No new patch or anything? I heard LEvi won the contest. |
| 17:57.13 | nicoli_s | well him and arthas were pretty much at the same time as far as poc maps go |
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| 18:20.03 | a228zip | hello |
| 18:20.21 | vjeux|afk | hey |
| 18:21.28 | a228zip | This "mid-april patch" 'd better be up by Tuesday |
| 18:21.37 | davidcramer | :) |
| 18:22.50 | Hati | nono |
| 18:22.52 | Hati | 14.2 |
| 18:22.58 | Hati | i polled for 14.2 |
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| 18:24.33 | a228zip | 14.2 ? what do yo mean ? |
| 18:26.31 | Hati | April, 14 |
| 18:26.36 | Hati | oh |
| 18:26.37 | Hati | 14.4 |
| 18:26.39 | vjeux | there's a 42 inside! |
| 18:26.39 | Hati | ic |
| 18:27.59 | nicoli_s | i dont see it happening a228zip and if it does, i doubt itll have GE |
| 18:29.24 | Hati | well i would even say you have to seperate download GE |
| 18:29.30 | Hati | via another torrent |
| 18:29.39 | a228zip | If it ever comes out during beta, that is |
| 18:30.03 | Hati | why you should trouble ppl downloading tons of unused models just to trash their hd ... if they don't even use it |
| 18:31.10 | Iggyhopper | cleaqning house |
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| 19:08.52 | nicoli_s | hey gregv21 |
| 19:09.01 | nicoli_s | mind posting up on the forum how you got shops working? |
| 19:09.41 | gregv21 | hi |
| 19:10.10 | gregv21 | well its not really shops |
| 19:10.24 | nicoli_s | well pawnable |
| 19:10.32 | gregv21 | i basicly made a building train itesm |
| 19:10.40 | gregv21 | item* |
| 19:10.45 | gregv21 | s |
| 19:11.06 | gregv21 | i havn't got pawnable to work yet |
| 19:12.12 | nicoli_s | ahh ok |
| 19:24.27 | Hati | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_h6AEAlFIY <3 |
| 19:30.56 | vjeux | not funy :X |
| 19:30.57 | vjeux | funny |
| 19:31.03 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/maps/t3cell-flags/ by grum |
| 19:31.30 | Hati | not :/ ? |
| 19:31.34 | vjeux | when you use 0x03 you create a hole in the world |
| 19:31.35 | vjeux | xD |
| 19:31.40 | Hati | seriously i would do it |
| 19:36.49 | nicoli_s | man i love shutting down my comp and seeing it say "Shutting down thermal controller" |
| 19:36.56 | vjeux | :p |
| 19:38.18 | nicoli_s | Fisker: is yer fancy new graphics card water cooled? cuz my comp is |
| 19:38.22 | nicoli_s | trumps fisker again |
| 19:44.51 | Grum | vjeux: its truth! |
| 19:45.00 | Grum | vjeux: you didnt see the cheese image! |
| 19:45.00 | Hati | What? |
| 19:45.12 | Grum | http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/sc2/cheesemap.jpg ! |
| 19:45.29 | Grum | holes ftw :D |
| 19:45.37 | Hati | Space Invaders ? |
| 19:45.42 | vjeux | nice |
| 19:46.01 | Hati | but looks nice |
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| 19:46.26 | vjeux | we are real geeks, we find a map with a lot of holes nice :p |
| 19:46.45 | nicoli_s | lol\ |
| 19:47.08 | Grum | 160*176/6720 ... |
| 19:47.22 | Grum | dammit |
| 19:47.26 | Grum | that is not 0 :p |
| 19:47.26 | vjeux | = 12 |
| 19:47.30 | Grum | err 4 |
| 19:47.44 | Grum | oh wait! 160*168/6720 |
| 19:47.54 | Grum | k |
| 19:48.26 | Grum | the t3Terrain.xml cliffCellList has a 'num="...."' that 'num' must be sizeX*sizeY/4 :) |
| 19:48.54 | Grum | that makes sense, as each cliff model spans 2x2 mapunits |
| 19:50.02 | Grum | so the <cc i="10" f="1" cid="0" cvar="3"/> .. the 'i' simply means square 10 (if you look at 2x2 square) i guess |
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| 19:52.12 | Technetium | holy shit |
| 19:52.17 | Technetium | !!!! |
| 19:52.23 | Technetium | that cheese pic helps a lot |
| 19:52.34 | Grum | ey Technetium; you slacker :p |
| 19:52.38 | vjeux | Technetium is a geek too |
| 19:52.45 | Grum | what were you talking about ~14 hours ago? |
| 19:53.22 | Grum | btw i think it should be doable to remove the fog of war |
| 19:53.30 | Technetium | I've been color-mapping differnt flags on the terrain and one of them didn't make sense |
| 19:53.37 | Grum | which flags? |
| 19:53.41 | Grum | t3HeightMap flags? |
| 19:53.50 | Technetium | yeah |
| 19:53.56 | Grum | you did something wrong then :p |
| 19:54.00 | Technetium | I have to double check because I think I made a coding error |
| 19:54.07 | Grum | yes you did |
| 19:54.18 | Grum | i checked it for twilight fortress, looked perfect |
| 19:54.19 | Technetium | it printed in my text viewer just fine |
| 19:54.26 | Technetium | I know |
| 19:54.39 | Technetium | but if I fix it I know I'm drawing all the verts right |
| 19:54.45 | Grum | anyhow, t3CellFlags controls 'gaps' in the world for the cliffs |
| 19:54.48 | Technetium | it was just... the fuck |
| 19:55.24 | Technetium | oh, and slackers don't work 45hrs a week ;P |
| 19:55.44 | Grum | pfft you didnt respond while working then |
| 19:55.47 | Grum | still considered slack |
| 19:57.01 | Grum | does anyone know of any 'null' model? |
| 19:57.05 | Grum | one that simply has no data in it? |
| 20:02.11 | Grum | mm i think i can remove the fog of war |
| 20:04.04 | Grum | btw if you can programatically toggle: b_FOWEnabled then you can turn if off :) |
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| 20:04.13 | Grum | prolly doable from galaxy scripts |
| 20:04.18 | Corbo | hai gais |
| 20:06.02 | Sixen | hai23u |
| 20:10.04 | Corbo | wut |
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| 20:13.51 | Grum | the fogofwar is defined in Mods\Core.SC2Mod\Base.SC2Data\Shaders\PSMaterial.fx |
| 20:13.55 | Grum | but i cant seem to overwrite it |
| 20:14.21 | Grum | (not editing the stock mpq file for it at least ^^) |
| 20:18.13 | Corbo | what's .fx? |
| 20:18.23 | vjeux | shader file |
| 20:18.28 | Grum | shader, plaintext |
| 20:18.31 | Corbo | yeah btu |
| 20:18.31 | Corbo | oh |
| 20:18.32 | Sixen | Plaintext too? |
| 20:18.33 | Corbo | I see |
| 20:18.39 | Corbo | That's what I was asking :P |
| 20:19.12 | Grum | http://github.com/grum/sc2-dev/blob/master/Mods/Core.SC2Mod/Base.SC2Data/Shaders/PSMaterial.fx#L335 |
| 20:19.58 | Corbo | interesting |
| 20:20.04 | Corbo | stuff I don't know |
| 20:20.05 | iggary|cleaning | wat? |
| 20:20.05 | Corbo | ;o |
| 20:20.24 | Grum | well from that you can see it only works when b_FOWEnabled is turned on |
| 20:20.28 | Grum | so turn that off .. and voila |
| 20:21.49 | iggary|cleaning | o |
| 20:22.25 | iggary|cleaning | What's a 'half4'? |
| 20:22.38 | Grum | yeah lol .. |
| 20:22.44 | Grum | same as half2 half3 .. |
| 20:22.46 | iggary|cleaning | 4 bytes? |
| 20:22.46 | Grum | prolly some macro :) |
| 20:23.00 | iggary|cleaning | lerp() |
| 20:28.53 | Hati | watching rockets at 1speed is fun :P |
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| 20:34.35 | Hati | http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2834/screenshot020j.jpg |
| 20:34.54 | nicoli_s | what exactly is going on in that pic? |
| 20:35.10 | Hati | marauder attacking spawningpool |
| 20:35.19 | Grum | with super slow grenades :D |
| 20:35.30 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 20:35.36 | Hati | yea and in parabolas |
| 20:35.44 | Hati | but without using parabola :P |
| 20:36.59 | Hati | boomerang marauder |
| 20:37.05 | Hati | http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1255/screenshot021q.jpg |
| 20:38.14 | nicoli_s | haha thats sweet |
| 20:38.38 | Hati | moverdata is fun :P |
| 20:40.15 | Hati | Z is usually Height in 3d view right? |
| 20:40.29 | nicoli_s | yes |
| 20:40.32 | Hati | hmm |
| 20:40.39 | nicoli_s | sometimes y is |
| 20:40.46 | Hati | k |
| 20:40.52 | Hati | nah just tested after i asked |
| 20:41.04 | iggary|cleaning | what is that? |
| 20:41.13 | iggary|cleaning | z is depth |
| 20:41.36 | iggary|cleaning | front, back, Z |
| 20:41.40 | iggary|cleaning | = |
| 20:41.48 | Hati | yea just wasn't sure about axis |
| 20:42.02 | Hati | because the debugging for movers is just colored |
| 20:42.20 | Hati | but has no caption |
| 20:42.22 | iggary|cleaning | yea, some other games like Worms 4:Mayhem has some force values XYZ and it was hard to tell. |
| 20:42.42 | iggary|cleaning | What are you edting? MoveData? |
| 20:42.46 | iggary|cleaning | Mover* |
| 20:42.50 | Hati | yup |
| 20:42.56 | iggary|cleaning | Where is this Z? |
| 20:43.00 | Hati | Throw |
| 20:43.07 | Hati | <ThrowVector value="0,0,10"/> |
| 20:43.13 | Hati | x,y,z |
| 20:43.19 | Hati | just managed to figure what Outro is |
| 20:43.32 | iggary|cleaning | oo |
| 20:43.40 | gregv21 | anyone got the pawn thing to work |
| 20:43.51 | iggary|cleaning | X is left or right of the unit facing, Z is how far, and Y is height |
| 20:44.06 | iggary|cleaning | of the caster unit, or "pitcher" i guess. |
| 20:44.10 | Hati | Z is height |
| 20:44.14 | iggary|cleaning | wow |
| 20:44.15 | iggary|cleaning | k |
| 20:44.16 | Hati | so depth |
| 20:44.22 | Hati | how far is Outro |
| 20:44.23 | Hati | kinda |
| 20:44.35 | iggary|cleaning | oh well it is flat |
| 20:44.40 | iggary|cleaning | i mean |
| 20:44.46 | iggary|cleaning | o |
| 20:44.49 | Hati | no you can throw into the sky |
| 20:44.55 | Hati | like Infestors do |
| 20:44.57 | Hati | with terranegg |
| 20:44.58 | iggary|cleaning | XY is for ground, and Z is height in SC2's layout |
| 20:45.01 | Hati | or larvas from hatch |
| 20:45.15 | Hati | <Gravity value="1"/> is there too :) |
| 20:45.20 | iggary|cleaning | for what? |
| 20:45.23 | Hati | gravity |
| 20:45.27 | iggary|cleaning | What are you edting? what fields |
| 20:45.29 | Hati | simple force |
| 20:45.32 | iggary|cleaning | wat |
| 20:45.34 | iggary|cleaning | where? |
| 20:45.35 | Hati | <MotionPhases> |
| 20:45.35 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.35 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.35 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.36 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.36 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.36 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.37 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.37 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.38 | Hati | i added |
| 20:45.39 | iggary|cleaning | ooooooo |
| 20:45.41 | iggary|cleaning | yes yes |
| 20:45.48 | iggary|cleaning | thats mover data for missles right? |
| 20:45.55 | Hati | yup |
| 20:46.11 | iggary|cleaning | yeah i saw that, have not edited it yet. Go for it, Hati. See what you can do :P |
| 20:46.25 | Hati | i might need it to fix the last bug for uberlisk |
| 20:46.48 | Hati | as there is definitly no cmd for that to make the return missile going to a specific model point |
| 20:46.58 | Hati | or atleast it is named very very weird |
| 20:47.24 | Corbo | lol |
| 20:47.30 | Corbo | that boomerang missile is awesome |
| 20:47.45 | Hati | yea you can make it really smooth i guess |
| 20:47.55 | Hati | that's quite awesome |
| 20:48.30 | Hati | with it a "skill"-based dota like BLC is really possible |
| 20:48.37 | Corbo | I need to start thinking of skills for my ghost |
| 20:48.37 | Corbo | :P |
| 20:48.38 | Hati | i guess |
| 20:49.12 | Hati | not dota ... moba ... |
| 20:50.32 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/mover-data-xml/ by xhatix |
| 20:51.09 | ckknight | Hati: are the tags actually lowercase like that? |
| 20:51.19 | Hati | tags? |
| 20:51.24 | vjeux | night |
| 20:51.29 | Hati | night |
| 20:51.37 | ckknight | <acceleration |
| 20:51.38 | Hati | oh you mean that |
| 20:51.45 | ckknight | vs. <Acceleration |
| 20:52.04 | Hati | didn't checked the syntax |
| 20:52.11 | Hati | just added Outro desc + value |
| 20:52.14 | Hati | will change |
| 20:53.17 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/mover-data-xml/ by xhatix |
| 20:53.18 | Hati | ckk? |
| 20:53.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen1 (~Sixen@149-169-60-221.nat.asu.edu) |
| 20:54.43 | Hati | hmm |
| 20:54.48 | Hati | guess i got outro wrong |
| 20:54.51 | iggary|cleaning | lol |
| 20:54.53 | Hati | it's not time - it's way |
| 20:54.56 | Hati | distance |
| 20:55.18 | iggary|cleaning | Why is amount with two m's? |
| 20:55.41 | Hati | it's from the other guy |
| 20:55.45 | iggary|cleaning | lol |
| 20:55.46 | Hati | who made the wiki entry |
| 20:56.11 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/mover-data-xml/ by xhatix |
| 20:56.25 | Hati | so should be correct now |
| 20:56.31 | Iggyhopper | I just wish I could put my syntax power on some of the larger files. I'm sure by now you know of my /amazing/ TurretData.xml edit. |
| 20:57.02 | Hati | i'm still not able to make a weapon to be able to attack like just 135° |
| 20:57.05 | Hati | in front of the target |
| 20:57.33 | Iggyhopper | Oh, you mean like, a throw away from the target or directly at the target? |
| 20:57.39 | Iggyhopper | I don't get. |
| 20:57.48 | Hati | like a cone |
| 20:58.07 | Iggyhopper | Oh, a vertical cone? |
| 20:58.08 | Hati | you can attack 135° infront of you but nothing else or you turn around |
| 20:58.20 | Iggyhopper | Oh I think that's RangeSlop. |
| 20:58.28 | Iggyhopper | Or DegreeSlop, or something. |
| 20:58.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@129-219-141-44.nat.asu.edu) |
| 20:58.30 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 20:58.51 | Sixen | I can fix it, :X |
| 20:58.53 | Sixen | Where? |
| 20:59.11 | Hati | There. |
| 20:59.17 | Sixen | fixt it, Hati? |
| 20:59.17 | Iggyhopper | <ArcSlop> in WeaponData |
| 20:59.28 | Hati | What? |
| 20:59.34 | Iggyhopper | Oh you fixed it? |
| 20:59.41 | Iggyhopper | Nevermind, please go on. Take a pic. |
| 20:59.53 | Sixen | (1:55:58 PM) iggary|cleaning: Why is amount with two m's? |
| 20:59.59 | Hati | i fixed yea |
| 21:00.09 | Sixen | Thanks,<#. |
| 21:00.21 | Iggyhopper | Oh that was in uh... MoverData.xml. |
| 21:04.43 | Hati | k now i know the Spine is facing now to the x-axis |
| 21:05.15 | Hati | facing to -y would entirely fix it |
| 21:14.42 | Iggyhopper | hi |
| 21:15.02 | Arthas- | yarrrrr powernap over |
| 21:15.54 | nicoli_s | i miss being able to take power naps |
| 21:16.03 | Hati | k seems like outro still is wrong :/ |
| 21:16.13 | nicoli_s | i used to be so good at taking naps i could fall asleep in like <3 min |
| 21:17.49 | Arthas- | nicoli_s so am i |
| 21:17.54 | Arthas- | i just slept 3h |
| 21:18.06 | Hati | but i fixed the error :> |
| 21:18.07 | Arthas- | ie, ima fall asleep 5 am again :p |
| 21:18.09 | Hati | hey |
| 21:18.10 | Hati | a |
| 21:18.12 | Arthas- | hey |
| 21:19.41 | Arthas- | wtf |
| 21:19.52 | Arthas- | "Nonetheless, it's still very well done. Hoping to see some more from you Hati! :D" -Bobreeda |
| 21:20.05 | Arthas- | a nice comment from an outsider who is not yelling nerd? |
| 21:20.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Labmonkey1 (~Labmonkey@pool-96-242-119-5.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:20.32 | Labmonkey1 | HEY |
| 21:20.34 | Labmonkey1 | sorry caps |
| 21:20.35 | Labmonkey1 | hey |
| 21:20.36 | Labmonkey1 | anybody here? |
| 21:20.49 | Hati | yes |
| 21:21.00 | Hati | well i guess i will upload the final (or even really close to it) tonight |
| 21:21.11 | Labmonkey1 | um |
| 21:21.11 | Arthas- | Labmonkey1 y |
| 21:21.15 | Arthas- | hi |
| 21:21.17 | Labmonkey1 | if you slow a unit down in sc2 |
| 21:21.24 | Labmonkey1 | does its attack anim slow down |
| 21:21.28 | Labmonkey1 | or just the time between attacks |
| 21:21.29 | Labmonkey1 | ? |
| 21:21.32 | Hati | depends on what attack |
| 21:21.41 | Hati | if you decrease Speed in UnitData no |
| 21:21.41 | Labmonkey1 | uh |
| 21:21.45 | Labmonkey1 | like |
| 21:21.49 | Labmonkey1 | marauder thing |
| 21:21.54 | Labmonkey1 | shock grenades? |
| 21:21.58 | Hati | the missile is controlled by moverdata |
| 21:22.00 | Alevice_Work2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.04 | Hati | there are Speeds in it |
| 21:22.04 | Labmonkey1 | k |
| 21:22.09 | Labmonkey1 | so the unit looks like it is in slow motion |
| 21:22.09 | Alevice_Work2 | except porjectile movement |
| 21:22.09 | Labmonkey1 | ? |
| 21:22.14 | Alevice_Work2 | aye |
| 21:22.14 | Hati | and you can manipulate it there |
| 21:22.17 | Labmonkey1 | cool |
| 21:22.18 | Labmonkey1 | thanks |
| 21:22.21 | Alevice_Work2 | it alters its entire timescale |
| 21:22.37 | Hati | just did |
| 21:22.48 | Hati | http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1255/screenshot021q.jpg @ Labmonkey1 |
| 21:22.49 | Alevice_Work2 | ?? |
| 21:23.01 | Alevice_Work2 | lol wut |
| 21:23.07 | Labmonkey1 | cool |
| 21:23.11 | Labmonkey1 | um what |
| 21:23.12 | Labmonkey1 | ? |
| 21:23.20 | Labmonkey1 | its an uberlisk |
| 21:23.25 | Labmonkey1 | why was it directed at me? |
| 21:23.34 | davidcramer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9NP-AeKX40&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 21:23.35 | davidcramer | :) |
| 21:23.56 | Hati | you get alot of hits / views for it |
| 21:23.58 | Hati | just for the kitten |
| 21:24.08 | Arthas- | come on cat, use the screen! |
| 21:24.12 | Alevice_Work2 | ?? |
| 21:24.17 | Alevice_Work2 | brb |
| 21:26.30 | Iggyhopper | Zeratul has blink. |
| 21:27.35 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 21:28.08 | Arthas- | please please please make ingameunit of zeratul a ninja |
| 21:28.13 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:28.15 | Arthas- | and not just usual DT model |
| 21:35.50 | Arthas- | ahahahahaha |
| 21:35.52 | Arthas- | MONSTER http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=631867212 |
| 21:36.05 | Iggyhopper | WTF |
| 21:36.42 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:40.54 | Arthas- | btw nicoli_s |
| 21:40.54 | Arthas- | you got all info on items you needed? |
| 21:41.00 | Arthas- | Ie, do I move onto fixing tutorial map :p |
| 21:42.14 | nicoli_s | yah im good arthas |
| 21:42.31 | Arthas- | http://torrentfreak.com/liam-gallagher-hates-rock-stars-moaning-about-piracy-100414/ |
| 21:42.46 | Arthas- | that kind of news make me happy |
| 21:43.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster Witchsong (noreply@120.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 21:43.16 | Arthas- | Witchsong |
| 21:43.21 | Arthas- | you have eu key yet? |
| 21:43.31 | Sixen | Witch, you're EU? |
| 21:43.46 | Arthas- | he's norwegian |
| 21:43.51 | Arthas- | iirc at least :D |
| 21:46.02 | Sixen | ~seen veselu |
| 21:46.03 | purl | veselu <~mpalade@gateway.streamwide.ro> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 15h 20m 53s ago, saying: 'helo'. |
| 21:46.14 | Iggyhopper | !balls |
| 21:46.16 | Sixen | ~seen remy |
| 21:46.17 | purl | remy <~5ed309d4@gateway/web/freenode/x-jjocuxfenszhgeoe> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15d 2h 25m 13s ago, saying: 'but rather declared in "AI.galaxy"'. |
| 21:46.17 | Iggyhopper | ~balls |
| 21:46.22 | Witchsong | I'm EU |
| 21:46.27 | Sixen | Got my PM, Witch? |
| 21:46.28 | Iggyhopper | ~shit |
| 21:46.29 | purl | shit is probably feces |
| 21:46.32 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 21:46.33 | Witchsong | Ya |
| 21:46.51 | Iggyhopper | ~ping |
| 21:46.52 | purl | ~pong |
| 21:46.56 | Iggyhopper | ~pong |
| 21:46.56 | purl | ~ping |
| 21:47.06 | Arthas- | ~pong |
| 21:47.07 | purl | ~ping |
| 21:47.17 | Iggyhopper | ~ping Arthas- |
| 21:47.18 | purl | pong Arthas- |
| 21:47.21 | Iggyhopper | looool |
| 21:47.29 | Arthas- | ~touch Iggyhopper |
| 21:47.30 | purl | This is Fendor's pleasure only |
| 21:47.38 | Arthas- | ~touch Fendor |
| 21:47.39 | purl | This is Fendor's pleasure only |
| 21:47.43 | Arthas- | meh |
| 21:47.54 | Arthas- | ~69 |
| 21:47.55 | purl | well, 69 is something you must learn to know more about.. looks the same if you turn it upside down |
| 21:48.27 | Grum | it doesnt :( |
| 21:48.58 | nicoli_s | ~seen sholdak |
| 21:48.59 | purl | sholdak <Sholdak@ool-18b9bd8b.dyn.optonline.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 20h 52m 19s ago, saying: ':/'. |
| 21:49.18 | Hati | who brought his own bot? |
| 21:49.21 | Arthas- | ~Grum |
| 21:49.28 | Arthas- | :( |
| 21:49.33 | Hati | ~9ball |
| 21:49.34 | Arthas- | ~uno |
| 21:49.35 | Sixen | ~seen Astazha |
| 21:49.36 | purl | astazha <~astazha@173-16-119-89.client.mchsi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15d 16h 27m 29s ago, saying: 'gnite all'. |
| 21:49.40 | Hati | ~8ball |
| 21:49.41 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Don't count on it |
| 21:49.42 | Arthas- | ~sex Witchsong |
| 21:49.50 | Hati | yay |
| 21:49.57 | Witchsong | :o |
| 21:50.14 | Arthas- | ~9ball Does Ws have a key yet? |
| 21:50.19 | Hati | 8ball |
| 21:50.19 | Hati | not 9 |
| 21:50.26 | Arthas- | ~8ball Does Ws have a key yet? |
| 21:50.27 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 21:50.35 | Arthas- | sarcastic piece of **** |
| 21:50.49 | nicoli_s | ~seen rmey |
| 21:50.50 | purl | i haven't seen 'rmey', nicoli_s |
| 21:50.52 | nicoli_s | ~seen remy |
| 21:50.53 | purl | remy <~5ed309d4@gateway/web/freenode/x-jjocuxfenszhgeoe> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15d 2h 29m 49s ago, saying: 'but rather declared in "AI.galaxy"'. |
| 21:51.03 | nicoli_s | ~seen Astazha |
| 21:51.04 | purl | astazha <~astazha@173-16-119-89.client.mchsi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15d 16h 28m 57s ago, saying: 'gnite all'. |
| 21:51.14 | Hati | ~seen Hati |
| 21:51.14 | purl | hati is currently on #sc2mapster (13h 43m 43s). Has said a total of 169 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Hati'. |
| 21:51.21 | Sixen | Hehe |
| 21:51.37 | Arthas- | turrent model = best container? hmmmm |
| 21:52.01 | Arthas- | ~seen Arthas- |
| 21:52.02 | purl | arthas- is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 1021 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Arthas-'. |
| 21:52.08 | Arthas- | Yeah, I spam alot |
| 21:52.22 | nicoli_s | thatll happen in irc |
| 21:52.28 | Arthas- | true |
| 21:52.36 | Arthas- | ~stats HP-X |
| 21:52.45 | Arthas- | meeeeeh |
| 21:54.26 | Sixen | Anyone know if Grum is in the Beta? |
| 21:55.04 | Arthas- | did he fill in the name in the list? =O |
| 21:55.52 | Arthas- | lol |
| 21:55.57 | Arthas- | i love ghetto_overlord :D |
| 21:56.27 | Xan | what did he do now? |
| 21:56.31 | Iggyhopper | Grom? |
| 21:56.34 | Iggyhopper | Hellscream? |
| 21:56.35 | Iggyhopper | ZOMG |
| 21:56.38 | Arthas- | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24261189231&sid=3000 |
| 21:56.54 | Arthas- | zhydaris even replied to him :p |
| 21:57.54 | Arthas- | also, xan are you always lurking? =p |
| 21:58.53 | Sixen | G_O makes me lawl. |
| 21:58.57 | Sixen | I played war3 with him before. |
| 21:59.04 | Arthas- | hahaha :D |
| 21:59.22 | Arthas- | forums would be boring without him |
| 21:59.27 | Sixen | No doubt |
| 21:59.30 | Xan | I check things like once in a while, the rest of the time I just idle |
| 22:00.44 | Arthas- | this late already :IO |
| 22:02.06 | nicoli_s | its not too late, its the perfect time....almost quitting time! |
| 22:02.25 | Grum | i am Sixen |
| 22:02.27 | Arthas- | im happy for you :p |
| 22:02.32 | Sixen | Oh, you are Grum? |
| 22:02.34 | Arthas- | i love quitting time myself |
| 22:02.37 | Grum | Grum.mmmm |
| 22:02.41 | Iggyhopper | I have cheese balls. |
| 22:02.51 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/profiles/grum/edit-battlenet-name/ |
| 22:02.53 | Sixen | edit your name nu |
| 22:02.54 | Sixen | b |
| 22:02.54 | Iggyhopper | Soloman Grundy |
| 22:03.01 | Iggyhopper | amispellinitrite? |
| 22:03.12 | Sixen | Know if Technetium's in the Beta? |
| 22:03.12 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 22:06.53 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 22:06.58 | Fisker | i'm the best supersled player in the world |
| 22:07.11 | Grum | the only you mean |
| 22:07.28 | Sixen | supersled? :P |
| 22:07.34 | Fisker | ye |
| 22:07.38 | Fisker | oh actually |
| 22:07.40 | Fisker | supersonic sled |
| 22:07.58 | Grum | i think he's confusing sluts and sleds again |
| 22:08.05 | nicoli_s | ignore fisker sixen, hes just upset cuz my comp is better than his |
| 22:08.31 | Grum | has anyone figured out <vertData quantizeBias="9.003120e+000" quantizeScale="3.187934e-004" standardHeight="8.000000e+000" name="t3HeightMap"/> already? |
| 22:08.42 | Sixen | Lawl |
| 22:08.55 | nicoli_s | dont think so grum |
| 22:09.47 | Grum | FAILURES! |
| 22:09.48 | Grum | ;( |
| 22:09.53 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 22:09.57 | Fisker | I'M ON A SLED MOTHERFUCKER |
| 22:10.55 | Sixen | gotta catch my bus. |
| 22:10.55 | Sixen | bbl. |
| 22:10.58 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@129-219-141-44.nat.asu.edu) |
| 22:11.01 | nicoli_s | so whats that about your graphics card not being as fast as mine fisker? |
| 22:13.12 | Fisker | well how fast can you run supersonic sled? |
| 22:13.57 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/d026ae5383a46738d50d421554e02247.jpg <-i'm on a sled |
| 22:14.36 | Grum | hahaah you were disqualifailed |
| 22:16.23 | Fisker | yeah |
| 22:16.31 | Fisker | trying to figure out to get below 28 seconds |
| 22:16.37 | Fisker | im going really fast |
| 22:18.29 | Fisker | haha i did it |
| 22:18.37 | Iggyhopper | wat |
| 22:19.42 | Hati | omg i need to learn to parent o.O |
| 22:20.00 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/9376830592b09772557de3d029242f1a.jpg |
| 22:20.12 | Hati | huh whats that? |
| 22:20.19 | Fisker | supersonic sled |
| 22:22.03 | Fisker | so nicoli_s |
| 22:22.07 | Fisker | what's your score in supersonic sled? |
| 22:23.45 | Grum | 2261373006 = floor 1; 2672545870 = floor 2; 1850200163 = floor 0 |
| 22:23.49 | Grum | now someone figure out the scale! |
| 22:24.36 | Grum | and 205574222 is 'zomgwtfbbq bottom' |
| 22:27.47 | Grum | approx 411172843 per 'level' |
| 22:27.53 | Grum | making the 'floor' -4 |
| 22:28.18 | Arthas- | nicoli_s, in mwe, iare the objects id-fields supposed to be int only? |
| 22:31.08 | nicoli_s | arthas: yeah it assumes they are |
| 22:31.15 | Arthas- | ok |
| 22:32.02 | nicoli_s | why do you know of any official maps where they arent? |
| 22:32.55 | Grum | meh that is just too good to be true; the floorlevel: 205574222 times the quantizeScale == 65535.7xxxxxxxx |
| 22:33.28 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 22:34.55 | Grum | floor 0 = 1850200163 .. times the quantscale = 589831.6006433242 ... divided by the quantizeBias ... is 65514.xxxx that is too close :p |
| 22:35.01 | Arthas- | nope, i didnt even think in those lines |
| 22:35.10 | Arthas- | I just though, objects is oly filed where id is int |
| 22:35.43 | nicoli_s | you using this to try and figure out the scale of the terrain data grum? |
| 22:35.51 | Grum | trying to figure out what the values mean |
| 22:36.04 | Grum | when ichange the bias to 10 instead of 9 the floor drops a little but not significant |
| 22:36.13 | Grum | when i change it to 19 .. it sortof vanishes |
| 22:36.42 | Grum | well ... 10 drops it significant but you can still see the map :p |
| 22:37.54 | Technetium | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 22:38.02 | Grum | Technetium: you already solved it? |
| 22:38.02 | Technetium | a -1 was fucking it all up |
| 22:38.15 | Grum | it looked like it shifted |
| 22:38.17 | Technetium | a width-1 instead of wisth |
| 22:38.28 | Technetium | that's why I was looking over that part of the code |
| 22:38.29 | Grum | else you couldn't get the 'band' in the middle |
| 22:38.38 | Technetium | yeah |
| 22:38.48 | Grum | thsoe were the 2 opposite edges shifted :) |
| 22:38.59 | Grum | anyhow, did you already figure out the quantize stuff? |
| 22:39.07 | Technetium | you should have seen it originally when I was drawing the quads backwards |
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| 22:39.43 | Technetium | I thought the scale was self-explanatory |
| 22:40.06 | Technetium | not sure about the bias |
| 22:40.08 | Grum | well its not really |
| 22:40.29 | Grum | well floor 0 comes scarily close to 2^16 |
| 22:40.37 | Technetium | the only time I've seen quantize bias is for error correction |
| 22:40.58 | Grum | 2^16*9.003120e+000/3.187934e-004 is really close to 1850200163 |
| 22:42.14 | Grum | 65536*9.003120/0.0003187934 = 1850817715.54869 |
| 22:42.14 | Hati | hmm |
| 22:42.28 | Hati | seems like you cannot do 2 attacks at the same time |
| 22:43.00 | Grum | but you can start 2 right after each other and they run at the same time? |
| 22:43.28 | Hati | kinda |
| 22:43.35 | Grum | can you delay an attack? |
| 22:43.44 | Hati | it is delayed |
| 22:43.45 | Fisker | btw Grum |
| 22:43.46 | Grum | then start one which is delayed and start another one which isnt right after :p |
| 22:43.48 | Hati | if the first spine attacks |
| 22:43.49 | Fisker | was your youtube vid a success? |
| 22:43.58 | Grum | Fisker: obviously |
| 22:44.12 | Hati | the other's seem to be unable to attack until he comes back |
| 22:45.29 | Grum | meh these scales make no sense; 14559 per floorlevel |
| 22:45.39 | Grum | how is that any sensible ;( |
| 22:45.41 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSu1s0pXUA <-nsfw |
| 22:45.53 | Grum | well if its not suitable for watching i wont |
| 22:46.09 | Arthas- | lameass AI |
| 22:46.32 | Arthas- | when I place zealots in open area he orders them directly to my startlocation |
| 22:46.36 | Fisker | well you made it Grum |
| 22:46.38 | Zoxc | nicoli_s: What do I need to do to make the editor run? |
| 22:46.38 | Arthas- | anyway to prevent this? |
| 22:46.56 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 22:46.57 | Hati | hmm |
| 22:46.59 | Arthas- | perhaps remove move command |
| 22:47.01 | Zoxc | error in log: Could not find "G:\Games\StarCraft II Beta\Mods\Core.SC2Mod\Base.SC2Data"! :( |
| 22:47.05 | Hati | reducing the period by amount of spines might work |
| 22:47.11 | Grum | Zoxc: fix the path in the config somewhere :p |
| 22:47.14 | Arthas- | fucker should not be moving then |
| 22:47.18 | Arthas- | or set movable flag |
| 22:47.20 | Arthas- | :)))) |
| 22:47.24 | Grum | or just halt it? ;p |
| 22:47.28 | Zoxc | I've already done that |
| 22:47.37 | Grum | hope you got a tshirt! |
| 22:47.37 | Arthas- | how do I halt the ai? im using the scripts from the tutorial map |
| 22:47.49 | Arthas- | so it adds the apm, but the comp still wants me blood |
| 22:47.57 | Grum | Zoxc: so erm .. that file should be there |
| 22:48.01 | Grum | if its not then you have the wrong path ;) |
| 22:48.10 | Zoxc | nvm, the config file had two paths I needed to change... |
| 22:48.17 | Grum | ! :D |
| 22:48.20 | Zoxc | fucking read the thing from the registry already |
| 22:48.25 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyEn53T8WtQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=5cqrImuTlvY |
| 22:48.28 | Arthas- | save for work! |
| 22:48.37 | Arthas- | and most awesome win ever made - with zelda music |
| 22:48.48 | Arthas- | ill keep posting this daily :p |
| 22:51.42 | Grum | awwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 22:51.44 | Grum | epic :D |
| 22:51.56 | Grum | kinda silly paly though |
| 22:52.09 | Grum | the protoss could have microd the cannon fire to kill 3-4 more roaches |
| 22:52.15 | Grum | and they should have left 1 behind :p |
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| 22:58.42 | Iggyhopper | "<Zoxc> nicoli_s: What do I need to do to make the editor run?" Legs. |
| 22:59.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ingela- (~Ingela@90-230-173-174-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 23:01.04 | Iggyhopper | Protoss AI is teh awesoem sauce |
| 23:01.07 | Iggyhopper | g |
| 23:01.09 | Iggyhopper | f |
| 23:06.18 | Arthas- | wtf |
| 23:06.21 | Arthas- | ingela is swe |
| 23:06.31 | Ingela- | :O |
| 23:06.35 | Arthas- | amagad |
| 23:06.35 | Fisker | swe?? |
| 23:06.35 | Hati | it just don't make sense o.O |
| 23:06.42 | Arthas- | WE NEED MOAR SWEDES |
| 23:07.01 | Hati | <Options index="LinkedCooldown" value="0"/> what it is for ... if it is NOT weapon cooldowns |
| 23:07.01 | Arthas- | Fisker yeah |
| 23:07.11 | Arthas- | hati which file |
| 23:07.17 | Hati | WeaponData |
| 23:07.19 | Iggyhopper | Cooldown is not weapon |
| 23:07.19 | Ingela- | fisker is a fisk |
| 23:07.33 | Iggyhopper | SWEDES |
| 23:08.03 | Arthas- | clearly he is :) |
| 23:08.16 | Arthas- | hati no idea what that is for :p |
| 23:08.23 | Hati | i guess i just saw |
| 23:08.25 | Arthas- | its in the core weapondata but aint used anywhere |
| 23:08.29 | Hati | <Cost> |
| 23:08.29 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.29 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.31 | Hati | is missing |
| 23:08.36 | Iggyhopper | yes it isd |
| 23:08.41 | Iggyhopper | right? |
| 23:08.47 | Iggyhopper | oh yeah nonon |
| 23:08.47 | Arthas- | noooo |
| 23:08.49 | Iggyhopper | nooo |
| 23:09.04 | Arthas- | lets do a vader nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!11!!!111one!1one!!! |
| 23:09.10 | Iggyhopper | DO NOT WANT |
| 23:09.21 | Arthas- | Do not know if want |
| 23:09.21 | Ingela- | <-- awesome sauce 3d animator... "buying" *cough cough* 3ds max atm so i cna do some models for maybe future sc2 maps :) |
| 23:09.30 | Ingela- | never used that though =( |
| 23:09.34 | Arthas- | you can buy it from me! |
| 23:09.45 | Arthas- | I take 100 sek for internetcopy :p |
| 23:10.19 | Arthas- | how expensive is a 3ds license? |
| 23:10.32 | Ingela- | no idea, "buying" wasn't actually refering to buying :P |
| 23:10.32 | Hati | hmm |
| 23:10.37 | Arthas- | yeah i know |
| 23:10.39 | Arthas- | but |
| 23:10.43 | Arthas- | PS is what, 10k sek |
| 23:10.50 | Arthas- | for the full software |
| 23:10.56 | Arthas- | 20-30k for the adobe suite |
| 23:11.29 | Ingela- | with Subscription Electronic Download - $3,990.00 |
| 23:11.40 | Ingela- | http://store.autodesk.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?SiteID=adsk&Locale=en_US&Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&productID=185164700&pgm=12938000&ThemeID=1293100&Currency=USD&resid=S8ZLjwoHAi0AAE2yTYIAAAAY&rests=1271286670870 |
| 23:11.45 | Ingela- | that's a lot O.O |
| 23:11.53 | Hati | uhm |
| 23:12.27 | Arthas- | yeah :p |
| 23:13.08 | Arthas- | awesome, you should make some item containers for maps :D |
| 23:13.24 | Arthas- | I miss a good itemcontainer model :p |
| 23:13.39 | Ingela- | if it'd be possible with cinema 4d i'd do it now :( |
| 23:13.55 | Ackis | hmmm this might be the channel to ask |
| 23:14.06 | Arthas- | to ask what :O |
| 23:14.12 | Ackis | anyone here know a good hex file comparerer? |
| 23:14.16 | Ackis | I was typing!!! rawr |
| 23:14.21 | Arthas- | i dont but someone prolly does |
| 23:14.23 | Arthas- | ~seen ackis |
| 23:14.27 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev #sc2mapster #wowuidev #arl #wowace #curseforge #wowwiki. Has said a total of 30 messages. Is idling for 11s, last said: 'I was typing!!! rawr'. |
| 23:14.36 | Arthas- | 30 msgs, you need to spam alot :( |
| 23:14.41 | JademusSreg | I used Hex Workshop back in the day. |
| 23:14.57 | Ackis | I've been busy at work so I haven't been chatting on IRC as much |
| 23:15.05 | hyarion | Arthas-: you know that adobe has student discount right? |
| 23:15.14 | Ingela- | Ackis, when will we see ARL in sc2? :D |
| 23:15.39 | Arthas- | hyarion you know that im as artistic as a those who do the sculptures in town |
| 23:15.45 | Arthas- | I cant do shit :p |
| 23:15.52 | Arthas- | uglyass city art |
| 23:15.53 | Iggyhopper | I can do things with my mind. |
| 23:15.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Fisker (n_a@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 23:15.57 | Fisker | also nicoli_s |
| 23:16.00 | Arthas- | btw hyarion |
| 23:16.03 | Fisker | my gtx 480 is a better underclocker than yours |
| 23:16.03 | hyarion | Arthas-: haha |
| 23:16.12 | Arthas- | msdnaa now has the VS2010 |
| 23:16.16 | Ackis | lol Ingela- I haven't even played a single game of SC2 |
| 23:16.21 | Hati | hmm |
| 23:16.25 | Arthas- | omg |
| 23:16.27 | Hati | the cooldowns are seperate |
| 23:16.29 | Arthas- | ingela you have betakey? |
| 23:16.34 | Ingela- | indeed i do |
| 23:16.38 | Arthas- | AMAGAD |
| 23:16.40 | hyarion | Arthas-: nice :) |
| 23:16.40 | Arthas- | PLAYT!? |
| 23:16.50 | Hati | but i guess A unit requires more than one attack to attack more than once in a moment |
| 23:16.54 | Ingela- | you don't wanna play with me, i suck :( |
| 23:16.59 | Ingela- | i'm at gold only =( |
| 23:17.08 | hyarion | maybe i should install it on the compter i found a couple of weeks ago ^^ |
| 23:17.09 | Arthas- | hati, please document and make tutorial for cooldown |
| 23:17.14 | Arthas- | that shit is driving me crazy |
| 23:17.18 | Arthas- | hyarion stole* |
| 23:17.18 | Hati | http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6715/screenshot024m.jpg |
| 23:17.26 | Iggyhopper | http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/strange-mirror-man-isn-t-wearing-an-invisibility-cloak |
| 23:17.27 | Arthas- | Ingela- way better than my placement |
| 23:17.35 | Arthas- | i dont even think im done w placement, i just play custom games |
| 23:17.39 | Ackis | JademusSreg: DLed that and installing now, thanks |
| 23:17.45 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 23:17.52 | Iggyhopper | Are those cooldown gradients in your weapon slots? |
| 23:18.00 | Ingela- | aight well sure Arthas- we could play some maybe tomorrow :) |
| 23:18.02 | Hati | yea |
| 23:18.07 | Iggyhopper | Awesome. |
| 23:18.07 | Arthas- | you *should* be able to have cooldown on items |
| 23:18.08 | Hati | <Options index="DisplayCooldown" value="1"/> |
| 23:18.09 | Hati | just found |
| 23:18.15 | Arthas- | i dont even remember, I might have had it yesterday |
| 23:18.21 | Arthas- | Ingela- great :D |
| 23:18.26 | Iggyhopper | Are you going to do another video? |
| 23:18.33 | Hati | yea |
| 23:18.42 | Hati | with the full one |
| 23:18.56 | Iggyhopper | Also, the number days Blizzard is to be releasing the editor can only go down. |
| 23:18.59 | Iggyhopper | 15` |
| 23:19.10 | Hati | 365 days left |
| 23:19.15 | Iggyhopper | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 23:19.20 | Iggyhopper | lolwut |
| 23:19.31 | Iggyhopper | oh hey, you can probably make creep damage others |
| 23:19.51 | Hati | yes you can |
| 23:19.55 | Iggyhopper | There is an upgrade called "Toxic Creep". It shows tiny spikes in the creep. |
| 23:19.56 | Hati | brb restarting win7 ... |
| 23:20.13 | Arthas- | On May 16th blizzard announced they will not be releasing the editor. "This will make our playerbase focus on the ladder and make the e-sports scene even larger" Dustin Browder commented |
| 23:20.28 | Arthas- | *jinx* |
| 23:20.29 | Iggyhopper | Arthas-: What? |
| 23:20.32 | Iggyhopper | Oh. |
| 23:20.34 | Iggyhopper | Fag. |
| 23:20.37 | Arthas- | :D |
| 23:20.42 | Iggyhopper | Eat 8====D |
| 23:20.45 | Iggyhopper | Lol. |
| 23:20.47 | Arthas- | haha |
| 23:21.10 | Arthas- | now a fake newspost regarding that on blizzard.com for april 1st would have been awesome :p |
| 23:21.12 | Iggyhopper | OMG IM FIREIN MAH. :C===============O |
| 23:21.29 | Arthas- | More like :C=D |
| 23:21.32 | Arthas- | :\ |
| 23:21.32 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 23:21.34 | Iggyhopper | no |
| 23:21.40 | Iggyhopper | like :C000000000000000000000000 |
| 23:21.44 | Iggyhopper | or |
| 23:21.59 | Ingela- | Arthas-, was that a legit comment? |
| 23:22.08 | Iggyhopper | :C####### |
| 23:22.11 | Arthas- | which |
| 23:22.14 | Arthas- | ah |
| 23:22.14 | Arthas- | no |
| 23:22.16 | Ingela- | from dustin browder |
| 23:22.20 | Iggyhopper | cp |
| 23:22.21 | Iggyhopper | is bad |
| 23:22.23 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 23:22.24 | Arthas- | Ive forseen that will be said on may 16th :D |
| 23:22.44 | Ingela- | While we had initially announced that we were planning to post the Paladin preview on Friday, April 16 were unfortunately not going to be able to release the preview on that date. |
| 23:22.50 | Ingela- | this was said about paladin changes in wow |
| 23:22.55 | Ingela- | so yeah one could hope 16th =) |
| 23:23.01 | Arthas- | O_o |
| 23:23.09 | Arthas- | :D |
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| 23:23.59 | Arthas- | "Cannot edit MPQ files,it is a bannable offense," nub @ sc2beta boards stating FACTS! |
| 23:26.03 | Iggyhopper | LOL |
| 23:26.18 | Iggyhopper | blizz saeys: donut eat mpq's its bad |
| 23:27.15 | Hati | So GE will ban us all! |
| 23:27.59 | Arthas- | ok, I have weaponclass, armorclass, accessoriesclass |
| 23:28.07 | Arthas- | what is a hgood name for potions and the like |
| 23:28.16 | Hati | lol |
| 23:28.18 | Arthas- | ima add Ryssfemma w stimpack effect |
| 23:28.21 | Hati | he just didn't get it |
| 23:28.29 | Hati | you are relating to this arthas? |
| 23:28.29 | Hati | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24261280104&sid=5000 |
| 23:28.41 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 23:28.47 | Hati | i guess he thinks that makes you able to zoom out in ladder matches |
| 23:28.48 | Arthas- | If you really need it,mapmakers will most likely be free to edit the cameras to make their custom maps do it. |
| 23:28.55 | Arthas- | Ok seriously |
| 23:29.00 | Arthas- | I fucking hate blizzards playerbase |
| 23:29.10 | Arthas- | give me blizzcon and a shotgun with unlimited ammo |
| 23:29.17 | Arthas- | I will gladly take deathpenalty afterwards |
| 23:29.31 | Hati | there's no reason to move there |
| 23:29.36 | Hati | you can watch |
| 23:29.54 | Xan | why not a |
| 23:29.55 | Xan | minigun |
| 23:30.23 | Hati | "Because nothing on me is 'mini' " |
| 23:30.30 | Arthas- | ok xan |
| 23:30.38 | Arthas- | wasnt ryssfemma something that was used by russian soldiers |
| 23:30.53 | Xan | no idea |
| 23:31.13 | Arthas- | found the real name |
| 23:31.15 | hyarion | you mean metandienon right? |
| 23:31.16 | Arthas- | im so adding it as an item |
| 23:31.22 | Xan | what is it? |
| 23:31.29 | Arthas- | Methapoctehonol |
| 23:31.44 | hyarion | ops, i wrote the swedish name for it :P |
| 23:31.50 | hyarion | anabolic steroid |
| 23:31.58 | Arthas- | Methandrostenolone |
| 23:31.59 | Arthas- | even |
| 23:32.01 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 23:32.02 | Xan | lol |
| 23:32.05 | Arthas- | ty hyarion |
| 23:32.11 | Arthas- | nice to see you are useful! :D |
| 23:32.19 | Arthas- | what are you up to? its 1:30 |
| 23:32.24 | Arthas- | also saw tess today |
| 23:32.29 | Arthas- | her new bf is lame lol |
| 23:32.32 | Arthas- | hes in my class |
| 23:32.33 | Xan | tess? |
| 23:32.38 | Arthas- | ay, hyarions ex :p |
| 23:32.46 | hyarion | haha, he is really wtf bbq |
| 23:32.47 | Xan | oh |
| 23:32.51 | Arthas- | yeah i know |
| 23:32.52 | Arthas- | lol |
| 23:33.00 | Arthas- | i kinda avoid him at all costs |
| 23:33.18 | hyarion | well, i'm sick so i've sleept all day long, so now i can't sleep any more :S |
| 23:33.32 | Arthas- | nice move! |
| 23:33.34 | Hati | <CAbilAttack id="AttackWarpPrism"> |
| 23:33.40 | Hati | WarpPrism are the mobile pylons? |
| 23:33.49 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 23:33.51 | Ingela- | and dropships |
| 23:34.13 | Hati | Why blizzard, why are you giving a unit without any weapons this o.O |
| 23:34.16 | hyarion | so i'm currently opening up all my NES:es and documenting what it sais on the CPU/PPU/cic |
| 23:34.16 | Arthas- | now help me come up with the fourth itemclass |
| 23:34.19 | hyarion | :P |
| 23:34.27 | Arthas- | hyarion werent you fiddling w the snes |
| 23:35.05 | hyarion | well, i can't really get over the nes:es :P |
| 23:35.16 | Arthas- | you know |
| 23:35.23 | Arthas- | its almost one year since you got your appartment |
| 23:35.28 | Arthas- | still havent våldgästat you |
| 23:35.29 | Arthas- | :p |
| 23:35.33 | hyarion | haha |
| 23:35.35 | hyarion | lol |
| 23:35.54 | Arthas- | beer saturday? |
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| 23:36.04 | hyarion | im probably sick then too |
| 23:36.16 | Arthas- | fine, whiskey then |
| 23:36.21 | hyarion | haha |
| 23:36.25 | Arthas- | what kind of sickness |
| 23:36.53 | hyarion | common cold |
| 23:37.16 | hyarion | "förkylning" |
| 23:37.21 | Arthas- | miscellaneous <<< will never learn how to spell that one |
| 23:37.24 | hyarion | guess its common cold... |
| 23:37.36 | Arthas- | Ah |
| 23:37.46 | Arthas- | awesome ;p |
| 23:38.04 | Ingela- | where in sweden do you live? |
| 23:38.10 | Hati | what was the rotating stuff on wow-cooldowns called? |
| 23:38.18 | Ingela- | global |
| 23:38.20 | Ingela- | cooldown |
| 23:38.22 | Hati | nah |
| 23:38.26 | Hati | if a spell was on cooldown |
| 23:38.26 | Arthas- | Ingela- umeå |
| 23:38.29 | Arthas- | you? |
| 23:38.32 | Ingela- | gbg! |
| 23:38.34 | Arthas- | prolly sthlm or some crap like that |
| 23:38.43 | Arthas- | i kinda like gbg so you are safe :p |
| 23:38.45 | Ingela- | that's an insult |
| 23:38.47 | Arthas- | "Ha de gött!" |
| 23:38.51 | Ingela- | haha |
| 23:38.52 | Xan | wahaha |
| 23:38.58 | Arthas- | i think xan is gbg too |
| 23:38.59 | hyarion | de va la roligt det xD |
| 23:39.27 | Arthas- | four swedes awake this time in the middle of the week - I approve |
| 23:40.04 | Ingela- | :D |
| 23:40.12 | Ingela- | explain more Hati |
| 23:40.19 | Hati | If you launched a spell |
| 23:40.23 | Hati | with cooldown |
| 23:40.27 | Hati | there was a circle on thhe button |
| 23:40.31 | Hati | like a clock |
| 23:40.56 | Hati | ost näs br |
| 23:40.57 | Hati | a |
| 23:41.43 | Ingela- | http://static.wowace.com/content/images/9/920/cdb_buttons.jpg |
| 23:41.44 | Ingela- | like that |
| 23:41.47 | Ingela- | just ignore the numbers |
| 23:41.51 | Arthas- | uhm |
| 23:41.54 | Hati | yea |
| 23:42.01 | Arthas- | question |
| 23:42.06 | Ingela- | which bear is best |
| 23:42.08 | Hati | answer |
| 23:42.17 | Arthas- | i can have an identical id in several files right? |
| 23:42.22 | Hati | yes |
| 23:42.26 | Arthas- | i ahve this in itemdata.xml <CItem id="ItemAncientCharm"> |
| 23:42.39 | Arthas- | and want to edit buttondata.xml and have same id there |
| 23:42.54 | Hati | it's common |
| 23:43.03 | Arthas- | ok |
| 23:43.04 | Arthas- | ty :) |
| 23:43.04 | Hati | as the <Button> tag refers to ##id## |
| 23:43.12 | Hati | as ActorData does with Model |
| 23:43.39 | Hati | whats that kind of display called Ingela? |
| 23:46.12 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by xhatix |
| 23:48.29 | Ingela- | Hati, i don't know what you're after really, but maybe this'll help you http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=555891 |
| 23:48.42 | Hati | i just called it cooldown spiral |
| 23:48.58 | Ingela- | if it's worth doing it's worth over doing! |
| 23:49.17 | Ingela- | just call it cooldown indicator otherwise |
| 23:52.18 | Arthas- | hati, is it possible to make the marauder increase speed w its concussive nade instead of slowing |
| 23:52.32 | Hati | sure |
| 23:52.38 | Hati | on the target? |
| 23:52.41 | Arthas- | what file to edit for that effect |
| 23:52.41 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 23:52.47 | Arthas- | im looking to make my item increase speed |
| 23:53.21 | Hati | behaviordata |
| 23:53.25 | Arthas- | i wonder if this tutorial will still be basic when im done.... |
| 23:53.28 | Hati | MarauderSlow |
| 23:53.43 | Hati | <Modification MoveSpeedMultiplier="0.5"/> |
| 23:53.46 | Hati | instead of 0.5 |
| 23:53.46 | Hati | 1.5 |
| 23:54.11 | Arthas- | ah |
| 23:55.20 | Hati | or 2 |
| 23:55.23 | Arthas- | darn |
| 23:55.27 | Arthas- | there was lots of multipliers |
| 23:55.37 | Arthas- | LifeArmorMultiplier |
| 23:55.50 | hyarion | haha gotta buy: http://www.thirdsiderecords.net/product_info.php?products_id=46&products_other=1 |
| 23:56.04 | Arthas- | lol |
| 23:56.05 | Arthas- | made of win |
| 23:58.21 | Hati | http://www.xfire.com/video/27282e/ |
| 23:58.31 | Hati | wtf |
| 23:58.56 | Hati | overlord gangbang |
| 23:59.06 | Arthas- | lots of overlords :p |
| 23:59.24 | Hati | boom Hunterseeker missile |
| 23:59.56 | Arthas- | i wonder how lifearmormultiplier works |
