IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20100408

`00:01.52`	`Hati`	`o.o`
`00:02.02`	`Hati`	`just found the way to enable attacks while moving`
`00:03.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Thunder_Child (~Thunder_C@ppp-71-142-2-130.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net)`
`00:03.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Thunder_Child (~Thunder_C@WoWUIDev/PITA/TC)`
`00:05.28`	`Iggyhopper`	`yeah`
`00:05.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`how hati`
`00:05.33`	`Iggyhopper`	`Hati`
`00:05.39`	`Hati`	`in WeaponData.xml`
`00:05.40`	`Iggyhopper`	`AllowedMovement?`
`00:05.54`	`Hati`	`there is WeaponLegancy`
`00:05.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`yeah`
`00:06.02`	`Iggyhopper`	`so did it work though?`
`00:06.02`	`Hati`	`CWeaponLegacy`
`00:06.08`	`Hati`	`but there is also CWeaponStrafe`
`00:06.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`you just make tags into legacy?`
`00:06.15`	`Iggyhopper`	`stgrafe`
`00:06.28`	`Hati`	`like in Interceptor attacks :P`
`00:06.32`	`Hati`	`just saw it`
`00:06.42`	`Hati`	`they don't stop-move`
`00:06.49`	`Hati`	`they are flying & shooting at the same time`
`00:07.00`	`Iggyhopper`	`but only while they are moving toward the target`
`00:07.11`	`Hati`	`that's the arc`
`00:07.25`	`Iggyhopper`	`wat`
`00:07.26`	`Hati`	`i guess`
`00:07.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`thats what ard is`
`00:07.32`	`Hati`	`<Arc value="19.6875"/>`
`00:07.35`	`Iggyhopper`	`maybe`
`00:07.37`	`Iggyhopper`	`aha`
`00:08.12`	`Hati`	`<AllowedMovement value="Moving"/> should work too`
`00:08.16`	`Hati`	`as it is for voidrays`
`00:08.29`	`Alevice_Work3`	`voidrays stop aatcking when they move tho`
`00:08.40`	`Iggyhopper`	`no they can move`
`00:08.41`	`Iggyhopper`	`slow`
`00:09.05`	`Alevice_Work3`	`really? i ought to check`
`00:09.09`	`Hati`	`Alevice - they attack if the attacked unit moves`
`00:09.12`	`Alevice_Work3`	`i know mothersip shoots while moving too`
`00:09.13`	`Hati`	`they still attack`
`00:09.31`	`Hati`	`and if they are slow moving voidrays still attack`
`00:09.36`	`Hati`	`but you can't throttle the speed :P`
`00:09.57`	`Hati`	`<AllowedMovement value="Moving"/> has this too`
`00:10.09`	`Hati`	`<Options index="OnlyFireWhileInAttackOrder" value="0"/>`
`00:10.20`	`Hati`	`and i guess if you would add this to voidrays`
`00:10.24`	`Hati`	`they simply would go insane`
`00:11.02`	`Alevice_Work3`	`haha`
`00:11.10`	`Hati`	`but iam trying to get a Uberlisk o.o`
`00:11.25`	`Alevice_Work3`	`How do we attach units anyway? Via turretData?`
`00:11.40`	`Hati`	`turret data is something different`
`00:11.47`	`Hati`	`it seems as this only stores if units are 2-parted`
`00:11.53`	`Hati`	`like Immortals`
`00:11.54`	`Hati`	`etc.`
`00:11.57`	`Alevice_Work3`	`ah`
`00:12.05`	`Hati`	`so they can move like spiders`
`00:12.13`	`Hati`	`but still fire behind`
`00:12.15`	`Alevice_Work3`	`oh okay`
`00:12.27`	`Alevice_Work3`	`so hiow it is done anyway`
`00:12.48`	`Hati`	`my guess is through modeldata.xml`
`00:12.51`	`Alevice_Work3`	`i doubt the spore crawlers are escorts`
`00:12.55`	`Alevice_Work3`	`hmmm, mayhaps`
`00:13.01`	`Hati`	`just did the easy part :P`
`00:13.04`	`Hati`	`adding weapons to it`
`00:13.11`	`Alevice_Work3`	`??`
`00:13.12`	`Hati`	`actually he attacks while moving`
`00:13.15`	`Alevice_Work3`	`ah`
`00:13.20`	`Hati`	`even without marking`
`00:13.27`	`Hati`	`like the vod from BlizzCon09`
`00:13.31`	`Hati`	`vid*`
`00:13.37`	`Hati`	`but no models there`
`00:13.49`	`Alevice_Work3`	`marking?`
`00:13.55`	`Alevice_Work3`	`as in targetting?`
`00:14.04`	`Hati`	`yea`
`00:14.10`	`Hati`	`he simply attacks any enemy`
`00:14.16`	`Hati`	`in 7-range`
`00:14.27`	`Alevice_Work3`	`yey`
`00:14.34`	`Alevice_Work3`	`so it is like phoenix fire in wc3`
`00:15.10`	`Hati`	`phoenix fire?`
`00:16.07`	`Alevice_Work3`	`Phoenix fire abiltiy in wc3 attacked anything in range`
`00:16.24`	`Alevice_Work3`	`even if the phoenix was moving or attacking another thing`
`00:16.25`	`Hati`	`hmm k`
`00:16.33`	`Hati`	`phoenix was human unit - didn't played human :P`
`00:16.43`	`Alevice_Work3`	`hahah, modding niigga, modding`
`00:16.54`	`Alevice_Work3`	`i hardly ever played standard wc3 melee`
`00:16.54`	`Hati`	`didn't modded for wc3`
`00:16.57`	`Zoxc`	`battleships ;D`
`00:16.58`	`Alevice_Work3`	`bah`
`00:17.07`	`Hati`	`was busy with playing :P`
`00:17.39`	`Hati`	`playing super mario bros with feet`
`00:17.43`	`Hati`	`on snes`
`00:17.55`	`Alevice_Work3`	`lolwut`
`00:18.24`	`Hati`	`you put the controller (SNES) on the ground and play Super Mario World (sry) with your feet`
`00:18.27`	`Hati`	`instead of hand`
`00:19.33`	`Alevice_Work3`	`I got what you mean. Doesn't change my reaction`
`00:20.06`	`Hati`	`guess i found`
`00:20.09`	`Hati`	`ImmortalTurret`
`00:20.17`	`Alevice_Work3`	`hmmm`
`00:20.17`	`Hati`	`<CActorTurret id="ImmortalTurret">`
`00:20.17`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:20.17`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:20.17`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:20.23`	`Iggyhopper`	`could be have two xml file wikis?`
`00:20.34`	`Alevice_Work3`	`lolwut`
`00:20.44`	`Iggyhopper`	`one for core and one for the data`
`00:20.45`	`Alevice_Work3`	`I mean, what for?`
`00:20.59`	`Alevice_Work3`	`if they describe the structure, there is little point in sperating them`
`00:20.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`i mean the xml files that extend off the core`
`00:21.03`	`Iggyhopper`	`mmk`
`00:21.06`	`Alevice_Work3`	`if it is for the data itself, then go ahead`
`00:21.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`like id like to put all the tags, then all the possible values for the tags, right there in a condensed format`
`00:21.54`	`Iggyhopper`	`I could make like, a test wiki page?`
`00:21.54`	`Hati`	`ehm`
`00:21.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`ehm`
`00:21.58`	`Hati`	`i handed it the way`
`00:22.01`	`Hati`	`handled*`
`00:22.13`	`Hati`	`you have ie. <<attributes values="">>`
`00:22.15`	`Witchsong`	`http://pastebin.com/V3NUiQsT <-- If I do this, will I be able to determine that list[0] is type B?`
`00:22.20`	`Iggyhopper`	`mk`
`00:22.20`	`Hati`	`and insert valid values in ""`
`00:22.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`oh i see`
`00:22.31`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok`
`00:22.35`	`Hati`	`so <<attributes values="TargetUnit, TargetPoint, etc."`
`00:22.38`	`Hati`	`>>`
`00:22.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`let me try it in my edeted "Alignment" attribute`
`00:23.24`	`Iggyhopper`	`<attributes values in what?`
`00:23.31`	`Iggyhopper`	`i mean i know where but uh`
`00:23.36`	`Iggyhopper`	`nvm ill just preview stuff`
`00:24.14`	`Hati`	`<CEffectIssueOrder default="1"`
`00:24.14`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:24.14`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:24.14`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:24.14`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:24.15`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:24.15`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:24.16`	`Hati`	`</CEffectIssueOrder>`
`00:24.16`	`Hati`	`ie`
`00:24.56`	`Hati`	`might not use ", "`
`00:25.03`	`Hati`	`"or" might be better`
`00:25.04`	`Iggyhopper`	`<<attributes values="Positive,Negative">>`
`00:25.11`	`Iggyhopper`	`<<attribute value="">>"Positive" or "Negative"<</attribute>>`
`00:25.16`	`Iggyhopper`	`actually switch those top bottom`
`00:25.23`	`Iggyhopper`	`so like that?`
`00:25.37`	`Iggyhopper`	`oh jeez`
`00:25.53`	`Hati`	`i know what you want to do :P but i dunno which one should be used for 'known' valid arguments`
`00:26.07`	`Sholdak`	`witchsong: sure`
`00:26.08`	`Iggyhopper`	`so like`
`00:26.11`	`Alevice_Work3`	`g2g ltr`
`00:26.38`	`Iggyhopper`	`"Children" <InfoFlags> value`
`00:26.52`	`Iggyhopper`	`arg`
`00:27.07`	`Iggyhopper`	`<<attribute value="">>"Positive" or "Negative"<</attribute>>`
`00:27.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`wt`
`00:27.11`	`Hati`	`yea editing it in the small thing is a mess - copy it into editor <3`
`00:27.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/behavior-data-xml/`
`00:27.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok thar`
`00:27.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`see Children with charge and cooldown?`
`00:27.57`	`Hati`	`Buff?`
`00:27.59`	`Hati`	`BehaviorBuff?`
`00:28.03`	`Iggyhopper`	`sure`
`00:28.07`	`Hati`	`k`
`00:28.13`	`Iggyhopper`	`oh ctrl+f Alignment`
`00:28.17`	`Iggyhopper`	`hati`
`00:28.23`	`Hati`	`found`
`00:28.41`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok see i could have value, then line break and like possible values`
`00:29.02`	`Iggyhopper`	`i guess that would do, what i have right now is okay`
`00:30.14`	`Iggyhopper`	`<Options index="LinkedCooldown" value="1"/>`
`00:30.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`that in teh cores`
`00:30.38`	`Iggyhopper`	`<CWeapon>`
`00:31.04`	`Hati`	`yea i guess that way you could fire multiple weapons at once`
`00:31.37`	`Iggyhopper`	`i think you can have a weaponArray or like AbilWeapon`
`00:31.50`	`Iggyhopper`	`they already have something like AbilEffect`
`00:32.32`	`Hati`	`only thing i wonder is`
`00:32.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`wow`
`00:32.52`	`Iggyhopper`	`wow wow wow`
`00:32.59`	`Hati`	`CWeaponLegacy should inherhit CWeapon`
`00:33.03`	`Iggyhopper`	`<Options index="OnlyFireWhileInAttackOrder" value="1"/>`
`00:33.05`	`Iggyhopper`	`wow`
`00:33.43`	`Hati`	`yea posted earlier`
`00:33.49`	`Hati`	`at mothership`
`00:34.15`	`Jerub`	`question for you xml nuts`
`00:34.29`	`Jerub`	`any idea what the behaviour is for a colossos facing a thor?`
`00:34.45`	`Jerub`	`does the thor fire its canons, it's AA, or both? and is that defined in the xml?`
`00:34.46`	`Hati`	`huh?`
`00:34.50`	`Hati`	`oh`
`00:34.57`	`Hati`	`mom i check`
`00:35.00`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`The thor uses ground if It's in range`
`00:35.03`	`Iggyhopper`	`mom`
`00:35.05`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`if It's further away it uses air`
`00:35.12`	`Iggyhopper`	`for collosses`
`00:36.06`	`Jerub`	`is that just because the ground does more damage?`
`00:36.12`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`I imagine so yes`
`00:36.18`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`and the air outranges the ground`
`00:36.24`	`Hati`	`my guess he uses air`
`00:36.35`	`Hati`	`as it is his 'first' weapon`
`00:36.40`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`nope he uses ground`
`00:36.53`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`hes a smart lil thor`
`00:37.06`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`shoots those colossus knee caps out`
`00:37.24`	`Jerub`	`sigh`
`00:37.28`	`Jerub`	`clearly it should use both`
`00:37.38`	`Hati`	`against Colossus it wouldn't make a difference`
`00:37.40`	`Jerub`	`wants his thors to blast the shit out of those goddamn colossos.`
`00:37.44`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`:-P`
`00:37.49`	`Hati`	`air does 40dmg`
`00:37.52`	`Hati`	`ground too`
`00:37.56`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`use the 250mm? canons them`
`00:38.02`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`then`
`00:38.06`	`Hati`	`10s duration`
`00:38.14`	`Hati`	`you die before you activate :P`
`00:38.27`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`maybe you should use thro then ;-p`
`00:38.28`	`Hati`	`2s preparation time`
`00:38.29`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`shouldnt`
`00:38.37`	`Hati`	`well or you use it on distance`
`00:38.50`	`Hati`	`range: 7`
`00:39.10`	`Hati`	`Colossus has 6(+1)`
`00:39.31`	`Hati`	`but still 2 marauders are more effective against colossus`
`00:39.33`	`Hati`	`than 1 thor`
`00:39.40`	`Jerub`	`Hati: uh, no, they're not.`
`00:39.45`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`what's the range for thor air`
`00:39.47`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`I thoguht it was pretty large`
`00:39.48`	`Jerub`	`colossos will destroy the maraders before they're in range.`
`00:40.17`	`Jerub`	`even 20 maraders will have heavy losses taking out a colossos cluster.`
`00:40.22`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`yah air is 10`
`00:40.28`	`Hati`	`well ... flank him`
`00:40.28`	`Jerub`	`3 thors with infantry support will suffer only superficial casualties.`
`00:40.31`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`The Thors anti air has a range of 10`
`00:40.44`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`the ground to ground on it is 7`
`00:40.52`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`tha 250mm canon is 10`
`00:40.59`	`Hati`	`250mm sucks :(`
`00:41.02`	`Hati`	`it is single target`
`00:41.06`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`lol maybe you just suck as using thor`
`00:41.06`	`Hati`	`was aoe :(`
`00:41.13`	`Hati`	`i don't play terran`
`00:41.13`	`Jerub`	`Hati: i use the 250mm when i want to be sure to take out a pylon`
`00:41.36`	`Jerub`	`like i'm in the middle of a base assault and i realise a single pylon will take out 5 gateways.`
`00:41.43`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`thats always nice`
`00:41.53`	`Jerub`	`<3 incompetant architects.`
`00:41.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`I'm going to work on TurretData`
`00:42.04`	`Jerub`	`i hate those bastards who line up a line of 6 pylons behind 4 gateways`
`00:42.04`	`Iggyhopper`	`because it's small`
`00:42.20`	`Hati`	`it's not hard :P`
`00:42.26`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`yah the Thors anti air is pretty impressive I think`
`00:42.33`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`and It's general purpose use`
`00:42.54`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`but it needs support of course`
`00:42.58`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`like anything`
`00:43.05`	`Jerub`	`HeliosDoubleSix: i always love it when i play someone who hasn't seen thors before.`
`00:43.14`	`Hati`	`got one time a terran ...`
`00:43.20`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`:-) yah especially when you dropship them with SCVs`
`00:43.24`	`Hati`	`he had 2 fabrics ... pumping hellions`
`00:43.26`	`Hati`	`going mutas`
`00:43.29`	`Jerub`	`because either a) they focus on the thor and die to my MMM, or b) use the wrong rock/paper/scissor response to them`
`00:43.32`	`Hati`	`he was building a thor and canceling at 90%`
`00:43.35`	`Hati`	`back to hellions oO`
`00:43.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`how many gateways should i have when going against Z`
`00:43.51`	`Iggyhopper`	`i had like 1`
`00:43.53`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
`00:43.54`	`Hati`	`3`
`00:43.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`but i wanted to tech to collossus`
`00:44.00`	`Hati`	`3Gate 1 Robo`
`00:44.06`	`Jerub`	`Iggyhopper: 1 means you're vulnerable to a zergling rush`
`00:44.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`then he went zergling and muta and roach`
`00:44.20`	`Hati`	`you need immortals to countern roaches`
`00:44.31`	`Iggyhopper`	`i just couldnt keep up`
`00:44.32`	`Hati`	`and this way he is forced to go mutas`
`00:44.36`	`Iggyhopper`	`i need more practice`
`00:44.37`	`Hati`	`or hydras`
`00:44.59`	`Hati`	`hydras aren't that good (alone) against zealots`
`00:45.01`	`Iggyhopper`	`then i went air but he really went hard on mutas`
`00:45.14`	`Hati`	`and protoss are 'weak' against mutas`
`00:45.22`	`Iggyhopper`	`i got like a could phenoixes and warp ras`
`00:45.27`	`Iggyhopper`	`he tried to nydus me too`
`00:45.37`	`Iggyhopper`	`got him so it didnt work out too well for him`
`00:45.39`	`Hati`	`used it once ... to expand`
`00:45.41`	`Hati`	`not more :P`
`00:46.05`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`shit the Thor anti air does splash now too I forgot about that`
`00:46.12`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`hugs Thors ankle`
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`00:46.37`	`Hati`	`but i wonder why queen costs 2 supply ...`
`00:46.43`	`Hati`	`i mean ok ... it's strong only cost 150`
`00:46.46`	`Hati`	`ppl would mass it`
`00:46.52`	`Hati`	`but why not simply 1hatch = 1queen`
`00:46.52`	`Hati`	`...`
`00:47.27`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`cus then youd have less to think about and worry`
`00:47.36`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`and Blizzard likes making you worry and consider`
`00:47.46`	`Hati`	`well ok ...`
`00:48.00`	`Hati`	`you could have 2 close hatches and spawn for everyone a queen or let your queen travel`
`00:48.01`	`Hati`	`k ...`
`00:48.16`	`Iggyhopper`	`what if default=0?`
`00:48.21`	`Iggyhopper`	`for xml what would happen?`
`00:48.24`	`Iggyhopper`	`nothign?`
`00:48.24`	`Hati`	`it's not default`
`00:48.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`weird so its 1 or why bother haveing the attr`
`00:48.52`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
`00:48.57`	`Hati`	`if <CEffectDamage default="1"> <Amount value="20"/> </CEffectDamage>`
`00:49.08`	`Hati`	`every <CEffectDamage> without <Amount> would deal 20dmg`
`00:49.53`	`Hati`	`so it just changes the default values if default="1"`
`00:50.08`	`Hati`	`like global & local variables`
`00:51.07`	`Hati`	`and`
`00:51.18`	`Hati`	`if you have default="1" id="something" you can parent="something"`
`00:51.34`	`Hati`	`otherwise you can't`
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`01:00.16`	`Hati`	`<!-- This is temporary. The Colossus art is not build for his current design and the`
`01:00.16`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:00.21`	`Hati`	`ah ok`
`01:00.25`	`Hati`	`good to know :P`
`01:04.33`	`Iggyhopper`	`you see the patch today?`
`01:04.43`	`Iggyhopper`	`marud's got a upgrade for concussive`
`01:04.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`i knew it`
`01:04.51`	`Iggyhopper`	`i totally called it`
`01:06.41`	`Hati`	`TurretData.xml is really just for the turret part of units`
`01:06.44`	`Hati`	`to let it rotate etc.`
`01:06.50`	`Hati`	`just deactivated for immortal`
`01:06.53`	`Hati`	`looks sick :P`
`01:07.26`	`Hati`	`but`
`01:07.30`	`Hati`	`in ModelData.xml`
`01:07.31`	`Hati`	`<AttachProps Id="Ref_Hardpoint">`
`01:07.31`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:07.31`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:07.42`	`Hati`	`this applies "units"`
`01:08.46`	`Hati`	`or not`
`01:11.41`	`Hati`	`k and removing Turret="" from WeaponArray resulting in un-turnable units`
`01:12.53`	`davidcramer`	`im kind of interested, how many of you 1. are working/have made maps for sc2, and then 2. actually have a beta key (that answered yes to #1)`
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`01:19.59`	`davidcramer`	`http://www.break.com/game-trailers/game/starcraft-2/starcraft-2-tetris-video`
`01:20.01`	`davidcramer`	`that is kind of lame :)`
`01:20.06`	`davidcramer`	`its just a replay :(`
`01:20.20`	`Sixen`	`heh?`
`01:20.32`	`Sixen`	`It could've been done via Galaxy.`
`01:20.33`	`davidcramer`	`http://www.break.com/game-trailers/game/starcraft-2/starcraft-2-beta-breakup but that one is funny :)`
`01:22.26`	`JademusSreg`	`I mod, and have the beta.`
`01:22.49`	`JademusSreg`	`I run mods using Zoxc's launcher, so the integrity of the game's mpqs isn't violated.`
`01:23.14`	`Iggyhopper`	`is yaw up and down?`
`01:23.21`	`davidcramer`	`I believe so`
`01:23.40`	`davidcramer`	`I REALLY hope the editor gets rid of the need for all the changes to be in basedata/etc`
`01:23.48`	`davidcramer`	`and we dont have to wait another month for that one :)`
`01:23.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`also you can try RemoveWeaponArray`
`01:23.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`like RemoveValidatorArray`
`01:24.12`	`Iggyhopper`	`turret data is going to look nice once i publish my edits`
`01:25.07`	`Witchsong`	`If I want to implement an interface into the "primitive" data types, I need to make a class that extends UInt16 etc?`
`01:25.27`	`Witchsong`	`A struct cannot extend another struct?`
`01:29.35`	`Hati`	`if you have a low GB HD something like 256GB ... you think you are messy ... but if you upgrade to 1TB, you realize you are messy oO`
`01:30.26`	`Iggyhopper`	`yaw has to be the rotation of the y axis`
`01:30.31`	`Iggyhopper`	`no the z`
`01:30.42`	`Hati`	`up&down is maybe not 'defined'`
`01:30.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`maybe`
`01:31.07`	`Iggyhopper`	`but why would mothership clearly not have something else if yaw is not just left and right`
`01:31.10`	`Hati`	`as even if Core.SC2data theres nothing like it`
`01:31.27`	`Iggyhopper`	`yaw rate`
`01:31.33`	`Hati`	`yawrate is turn rate`
`01:31.47`	`Hati`	`speed of yaw`
`01:31.55`	`Hati`	`360 = instant`
`01:31.59`	`Hati`	`and so on`
`01:32.04`	`Iggyhopper`	`361?`
`01:32.20`	`Hati`	`i think it is max 360`
`01:32.31`	`Iggyhopper`	`no i see 999.8437 for colossus`
`01:32.36`	`Hati`	`oO`
`01:32.38`	`Hati`	`that's turn rate`
`01:32.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`0o`
`01:32.53`	`Hati`	`oh i see`
`01:32.54`	`Hati`	`my bad`
`01:32.58`	`Hati`	`hellion has too`
`01:33.07`	`Hati`	`maybe really the same as turnrate`
`01:34.21`	`Hati`	`maybe there's something like pitch?`
`01:35.09`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/turret-data-xml/ by Iggyhopper`
`01:36.47`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/turret-data-xml/ by Iggyhopper`
`01:36.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok dokey`
`01:36.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`check out the new awesomeness`
`01:37.38`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`01:37.44`	`Hati`	`Immortal Model is complete`
`01:37.47`	`Hati`	`it is with turret`
`01:38.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`one more edit`
`01:40.01`	`Hati`	`<AttachProps ...> i'm sure it has to do with this things`
`01:40.24`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/turret-data-xml/ by Iggyhopper`
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`01:40.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`im sure it has to do with weapon attachments or weapon sources`
`01:40.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`like pheonixes shooting from the side`
`01:41.07`	`Hati`	`Colossus too`
`01:41.11`	`Iggyhopper`	`also there are throw types`
`01:41.14`	`Hati`	`Ref_Hardpoint at immorta`
`01:41.14`	`Hati`	`l`
`01:41.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`like my TurretData.xml edits?`
`01:42.32`	`Hati`	`yup`
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`01:49.29`	`Hati`	`k`
`01:49.47`	`Hati`	`AttachProps refers to Bones`
`01:49.54`	`Iggyhopper`	`k`
`01:49.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`hmm`
`01:50.01`	`Iggyhopper`	`i thought so`
`01:50.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`i do 3d animation so you name your bones`
`01:50.20`	`Hati`	`yea`
`01:50.21`	`Iggyhopper`	`also thats how you attach stuff to models in war3`
`01:50.21`	`Hati`	`Hardpoint`
`01:50.52`	`Hati`	`was quite obviously`
`01:51.03`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`01:51.10`	`Iggyhopper`	`what is hardpoint anyway? do you know what that is?`
`01:51.17`	`Iggyhopper`	`what it points to?`
`01:51.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`you could try like.`
`01:51.56`	`Iggyhopper`	`doing something way out of the box`
`01:52.18`	`Hati`	`hardpoint are things to carry something`
`01:52.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`hold on`
`01:52.21`	`Hati`	`heard it somewhere`
`01:52.23`	`Iggyhopper`	`o`
`01:52.58`	`Hati`	`but i can't find it in the model ...`
`01:53.06`	`Hati`	`used to blender -.- now again 3ds`
`01:53.34`	`Hati`	`how to wireframe in 3ds?`
`01:53.50`	`Iggyhopper`	`nope`
`01:53.53`	`Iggyhopper`	`maya :\`
`01:54.00`	`Iggyhopper`	`<StartingUnitArray Count="6" Unit="SCV">`
`01:54.05`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:54.12`	`Iggyhopper`	`You know WTF this is?`
`01:54.31`	`Hati`	`yea`
`01:54.33`	`Hati`	`RaceData`
`01:54.36`	`Iggyhopper`	`Yes.`
`01:54.40`	`Iggyhopper`	`How does Offset work?`
`01:54.44`	`Iggyhopper`	`i know offset`
`01:54.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`0,0 offset 1,1 is 1,1`
`01:55.02`	`Hati`	`i guess there are these StartingPlaces on maps`
`01:55.08`	`Iggyhopper`	`but theres like 13`
`01:55.08`	`Hati`	`like in SCEditor / World Editor`
`01:55.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`no, 16`
`01:55.21`	`Hati`	`yea they can be`
`01:55.28`	`Hati`	`right / left to the base`
`01:55.30`	`Hati`	`or bottom`
`01:55.36`	`Hati`	`top i haven't seen so far`
`01:55.45`	`Hati`	`should be 18 positions`
`01:55.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`well have to graph them out`
`01:55.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`real quick`
`01:56.00`	`Iggyhopper`	`ill do it notepad`
`02:01.25`	`Iggyhopper`	`aha`
`02:01.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`i see the patern`
`02:01.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`its just the borders`
`02:02.04`	`Iggyhopper`	`um`
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`02:02.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`1111111`
`02:02.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`1000001`
`02:02.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`100X001`
`02:02.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`1000001`
`02:02.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`1111111`
`02:03.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`<Offset value="0,-3"/>`
`02:03.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.10`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.28`	`Hati`	`btw`
`02:03.32`	`Hati`	`seems like there is pitch`
`02:03.32`	`Hati`	`PitchQuery`
`02:03.35`	`Iggyhopper`	`oah`
`02:03.37`	`Iggyhopper`	`wat`
`02:03.40`	`Iggyhopper`	`where?`
`02:03.41`	`Hati`	`<CActorTurret default="1">`
`02:03.41`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.41`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.41`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.41`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.41`	`Iggyhopper`	`wat xml`
`02:03.42`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`i see`
`02:03.48`	`Hati`	`Core Actor`
`02:04.05`	`Iggyhopper`	`Actor xml is friggen ginourmous`
`02:04.05`	`Hati`	`or let's say ... there should be pitch ^^`
`02:06.45`	`Iggyhopper`	`<SCost>`
`02:06.45`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:06.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:06.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:06.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`What could hat be?`
`02:06.56`	`Iggyhopper`	`SCost`
`02:06.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`and CAbil`
`02:07.11`	`Iggyhopper`	`and then CAbilEffect`
`02:07.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`OOOOOOOOOOOO SHIIIIIIIIIT`
`02:07.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`You get to define ability classes.`
`02:08.10`	`Hati`	`huh?`
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`02:08.34`	`Iggyhopper`	`okay why can core simply define CAbil and then CAbilEffect and other, CAbil* and so on`
`02:08.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`so you can disable these via triggers by class`
`02:09.03`	`Iggyhopper`	`<DisableAbilClassArray value="CAbilEffect"`
`02:10.00`	`Iggyhopper`	`maybe?`
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`02:10.08`	`Hati`	`no clue`
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`02:10.25`	`Iggyhopper`	`me neither so im going to test it`
`02:10.45`	`Iggyhopper`	`I'm going to define my own abiailtay`
`02:10.54`	`Iggyhopper`	`or simply change some words`
`02:16.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`no u!`
`02:17.39`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`02:17.43`	`valkrial`	`blizzards facebook contest is so cruel. :( looks like they'll only be posting keys for the beta during regular business hours. I _work_ during regular business hours.`
`02:18.03`	`valkrial`	`i dont think my boss would like me sitting on fb all day`
`02:18.37`	`Hati`	`they post keys on facebook?`
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`02:19.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`<CAbilBehavior default="1" id="Salvage">`
`02:19.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.20`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.20`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.21`	`Iggyhopper`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:19.24`	`Iggyhopper`	`NOT even DEFINED in core`
`02:19.34`	`Iggyhopper`	`<CAbilBehavior`
`02:19.50`	`Iggyhopper`	`<CAbilBehavior default="1"/>`
`02:19.53`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok well it is`
`02:19.55`	`Iggyhopper`	`BUT OMG`
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`02:28.53`	`valkrial`	`hati: facebook.com/starcraft`
`02:29.23`	`Hati`	`i got one so nvm :P`
`02:29.26`	`Hati`	`but that's sick ^^`
`02:29.45`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok`
`02:29.51`	`Iggyhopper`	`Hati`
`02:30.14`	`valkrial`	`yrah kinda funny to see the fanboys go nuts`
`02:31.07`	`Hati`	`?
`02:31.17`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok so`
`02:31.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`i changed all <CAbilBuild to <CAbilMakeStuff`
`02:31.32`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
`02:31.34`	`Iggyhopper`	`testing SC2`
`02:34.00`	`Hati`	`i wonder how modelchange at marines work`
`02:34.14`	`Hati`	`it only applies a BehaviorBuff`
`02:35.06`	`davidcramer`	`If there's any map maker here that doesnt have a bnet account please PM me :)`
`02:35.12`	`davidcramer`	`err a sc2 beta account rather`
`02:38.51`	`Iggyhopper`	`totally fucked it up`
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`02:39.08`	`ckknight`	`davidcramer: we have a spreadsheet of people.`
`02:39.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
`02:39.13`	`ckknight`	`in the topic`
`02:39.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`averageurl`
`02:39.21`	`Iggyhopper`	`~topic`
`02:39.27`	`Iggyhopper`	`llool`
`02:39.41`	`davidcramer`	`ckknight: that dont have accounts that are active? :D`
`02:39.45`	`davidcramer`	`(i saw the one that listed people that did)`
`02:39.53`	`ckknight`	`go to the second sheet`
`02:39.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`oh fuck didnt make a backup of Base.SC2Data`
`02:40.03`	`Iggyhopper`	`oh wait i have a server`
`02:40.04`	`Iggyhopper`	`:)`
`02:40.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`on my other PC`
`02:40.23`	`davidcramer`	`oh`
`02:40.42`	`Ingela`	`Iggyhopper, http://www.mediafire.com/?dqwtnkytt2m`
`02:40.52`	`Iggyhopper`	`oh well thats cool`
`02:41.03`	`Iggyhopper`	`but i have a server where i can access its whole file system`
`02:45.37`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`02:45.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`it is not starting my download arg`
`02:45.49`	`Hati`	`i think there's a way to fake uberlisk`
`02:45.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`really?`
`02:46.00`	`Hati`	`you can set units on follow :x`
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`02:46.22`	`Hati`	`but this would look crappy`
`02:47.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`its not serving i probably got to restart it`
`02:54.53`	`Hati`	`i think i come closer to the how to add something to a model`
`02:58.25`	`Hati`	`basicly the Spawn Larva from Queen does nothing else`
`02:58.37`	`Hati`	`it adds SuperLarvaEggs (the model is called so) to the Hatchery etc.`
`03:01.20`	`Hati`	`<CActorModel default="1" id="ModelAddition" parent="ModelAnimationStyleContinuous">`
`03:01.26`	`Hati`	`ModelAddition ?`
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`03:11.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`wat`
`03:12.20`	`Iggyhopper`	`in actor right?`
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`03:12.43`	`Iggyhopper`	`CROBOS`
`03:12.51`	`Corbo`	`hai`
`03:12.54`	`Iggyhopper`	`R U READY FOR MORE?`
`03:13.04`	`Iggyhopper`	`WELL IM NOT`
`03:13.06`	`Iggyhopper`	`SO YEAH`
`03:13.08`	`Iggyhopper`	`hello`
`03:14.01`	`Corbo`	`BRING IT`
`03:14.08`	`Iggyhopper`	`AWWWWW`
`03:14.12`	`Iggyhopper`	`YOUR MOM IS A WHORE`
`03:14.27`	`Corbo`	`whch one?`
`03:14.35`	`Iggyhopper`	`3rd one`
`03:15.34`	`Corbo`	`I only have 2 moms`
`03:15.37`	`Iggyhopper`	`How big is the liberty base.sc2data?`
`03:15.43`	`Iggyhopper`	`just give me kb`
`03:15.56`	`Corosus`	`709kb?`
`03:15.59`	`Corbo`	`bigger`
`03:16.00`	`Iggyhopper`	`yup`
`03:16.00`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok`
`03:16.06`	`Corbo`	`23mb`
`03:16.08`	`Iggyhopper`	`i got one that is 708`
`03:16.17`	`Iggyhopper`	`so pretty much the same`
`03:16.32`	`Iggyhopper`	`i had two sitting on my server and didnt know which one was the unmodified one`
`03:16.34`	`Corosus`	`:up:`
`03:16.41`	`Corosus`	`yeah thats defiantely my original`
`03:16.55`	`Iggyhopper`	`defiantly`
`03:17.49`	`Corbo`	`who made the mapster logo?`
`03:17.53`	`Hati`	`sooo`
`03:17.56`	`Hati`	`lets see`
`03:18.01`	`Iggyhopper`	`how to make myself administrator?`
`03:18.06`	`Iggyhopper`	`or move files as admin?`
`03:18.10`	`Iggyhopper`	`thats gey in win7`
`03:18.14`	`Hati`	`sdfj naejnodasfo`
`03:18.15`	`Hati`	`muahahaha`
`03:18.16`	`Hati`	`muhahahr`
`03:18.33`	`Iggyhopper`	`i cant move a simple file give me a break`
`03:18.56`	`Iggyhopper`	`i am the only user on this pc how can i not be admin`
`03:19.01`	`Hati`	`i added an Zergegg ontop a Uberlisk!`
`03:19.07`	`Iggyhopper`	`NO WAYT PIC PIC PIC`
`03:19.08`	`Hati`	`now just have to find the right Location`
`03:19.14`	`Iggyhopper`	`ubelriks?`
`03:19.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`Hati`
`03:19.25`	`Iggyhopper`	`HURRY UP AND BE GLORIUS`
`03:19.31`	`Hati`	`http://yfrog.com/1xscreenshot010tj`
`03:19.43`	`Iggyhopper`	`omg f u im jealous`
`03:19.56`	`Hati`	`and they are right`
`03:19.59`	`Hati`	`it is fucking easy`
`03:20.02`	`Hati`	`if you know how to xD`
`03:20.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`make a marine douch`
`03:20.12`	`Iggyhopper`	`+e`
`03:20.33`	`Hati`	`mom`
`03:20.38`	`Corbo`	`you assholes with ultra res`
`03:20.39`	`Corbo`	`QQ`
`03:20.40`	`Corbo`	`QQ moar`
`03:20.45`	`Iggyhopper`	`hey`
`03:20.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`corbo`
`03:20.55`	`Iggyhopper`	`i just got a new computer`
`03:21.04`	`Iggyhopper`	`suck it`
`03:21.27`	`Corbo`	`asshole`
`03:21.28`	`Corbo`	`QQ`
`03:21.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`Trying to scale models at low-res = ugh`
`03:21.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`Scaling models at high-res = :o`
`03:21.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Is that just an ultralisk with an egg on it?`
`03:22.07`	`Iggyhopper`	`Does the egg do anything?`
`03:22.11`	`Iggyhopper`	`Also you must post xml data`
`03:22.13`	`Iggyhopper`	`Hati`
`03:22.25`	`Hati`	`it spawns a larva`
`03:22.51`	`Hati`	`but generally just a placeholder`
`03:22.51`	`Corosus`	`the huge zergling in contra looks awesome`
`03:22.54`	`Hati`	`for the moment`
`03:22.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`it does`
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`03:29.36`	`Iggyhopper`	`wtf`
`03:29.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`you guys know why i cant overwrite a file?`
`03:29.50`	`Iggyhopper`	`in windows 7?`
`03:29.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`expesially in program files`
`03:30.13`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`cus you are the systems bitch`
`03:30.17`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`and it owns you`
`03:30.20`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
`03:30.34`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`you can get a contextuial menu addon that lets you give yourself permissions`
`03:30.35`	`Iggyhopper`	`DUDE IT SAYS I AM THE FUCKING ADMIN HO.... WHA... AAAAAAAAAAAAA`
`03:30.35`	`JademusSreg`	`Because while Windows loves you, it doesn't want to change for you; it wants you to accept it for who it is.`
`03:30.47`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`yah you are never really an admin in Windows`
`03:30.49`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`just an observer`
`03:30.54`	`Corosus`	`yeah ive gotten annoyed and tried to rename wmplayer.exe , wont let me even as admin`
`03:30.58`	`Corosus`	`extra protections`
`03:31.04`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`yah theres a addon you can get`
`03:31.07`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`I lost the url :/`
`03:31.10`	`Iggyhopper`	`google`
`03:31.24`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`yah ill just google windows addon`
`03:31.35`	`Iggyhopper`	`how do i give myself permissions normamlly?`
`03:31.44`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`dunno`
`03:31.45`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`you cant`
`03:31.49`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`there is no normal way`
`03:32.10`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`http://www.blogsdna.com/2173/add-take-ownership-option-in-right-click-context-menu-of-windows-7.htm`
`03:32.11`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`tadda`
`03:32.18`	`Corosus`	`yeah try to take ownership`
`03:32.20`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`makes you feel like you actually onw the computer your running it on now`
`03:32.23`	`Corosus`	`if it even doesnt let you do that`
`03:32.27`	`Corosus`	`you cant..... easily`
`03:32.39`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`yah and stay away from the WINXS? folder`
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`03:32.43`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`it will just sadden andconfuse you`
`03:33.13`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`winsxs`
`03:33.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`WinXS?`
`03:33.27`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`yah It's Wndows portal to despair and sorrow`
`03:33.41`	`Iggyhopper`	`tghats fuckin stupid`
`03:33.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
`03:33.46`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`designed out of It's need to be antiquated and backward comptaible with crazy stupid conventions they ivneted way way back`
`03:34.01`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`go look at it if you dont believe, and be afraid`
`03:34.03`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`be very afraid`
`03:34.17`	`Iggyhopper`	`oh wait`
`03:34.35`	`Iggyhopper`	`:\`
`03:34.41`	`Iggyhopper`	`I had it open by another program.`
`03:34.44`	`Iggyhopper`	`That's why.`
`03:34.55`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`It's like a bottomless self referential pit of uncleanable junk`
`03:35.15`	`Iggyhopper`	`I tried to rename it, it said it was in use by another program.`
`03:35.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`So, I fail/.`
`03:35.21`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`:-)`
`03:35.45`	`Iggyhopper`	`I want to play some SC2 melee but Hati here, is preventing me from doing so.`
`03:35.54`	`Corbo`	`Seriously`
`03:35.56`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`03:36.21`	`Iggyhopper`	`You are in abil/effect/behavior data fight?`
`03:36.25`	`Iggyhopper`	`right?`
`03:37.32`	`Hati`	`yup`
`03:38.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`What are you editing?`
`03:39.05`	`Iggyhopper`	`Copy/paste current line of code`
`03:40.15`	`Hati`	`SpawnSpinecrawler`
`03:40.28`	`Hati`	`trying to get it work from the beginning`
`03:41.12`	`Iggyhopper`	`cant find spawn spinecrallwer`
`03:41.21`	`Iggyhopper`	`whats the xmldoc?`
`03:41.30`	`Corbo`	`seriously`
`03:41.33`	`Corbo`	`who made the logo?`
`03:41.34`	`Iggyhopper`	`no`
`03:41.35`	`Hati`	`it's my own`
`03:41.36`	`Corbo`	`I can make sc2 font`
`03:41.49`	`Hati`	`yup got the sc2 font too :D`
`03:41.49`	`Corbo`	`but I need to recreate exactly the mapster logo`
`03:42.33`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`03:42.43`	`Hati`	`seems like ActorData is loaded before behaviordata`
`03:45.26`	`Iggyhopper`	`hmm`
`03:45.34`	`Iggyhopper`	`make the ultralisk have a marine`
`03:45.35`	`ppl_`	`what up`
`03:46.00`	`ppl_`	`are there any sc2 playable rpgs`
`03:46.11`	`Iggyhopper`	`ppl_ this: http://yfrog.com/1xscreenshot010tj`
`03:46.36`	`ppl_`	`is it a full game? ;/`
`03:46.39`	`Iggyhopper`	`lkol`
`03:46.45`	`Iggyhopper`	`no`
`03:46.51`	`Iggyhopper`	`we are ading units on top of each other`
`03:46.54`	`Iggyhopper`	`attaching`
`03:46.58`	`ppl_`	`:)`
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`03:49.50`	`Hati`	`guessing only the 'valid' host name has to been found now`
`03:50.12`	`Iggyhopper`	`host name?`
`03:51.14`	`Hati`	`the unit to attach`
`03:51.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`o`
`03:51.25`	`Iggyhopper`	`are you editing uh.. actor?`
`03:51.52`	`Hati`	`yea`
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`03:59.16`	`Iggyhopper`	`Hati do stuff`
`03:59.18`	`Iggyhopper`	`moar`
`04:00.50`	`Corbo`	`can someone link me to a sc2mapster logo`
`04:00.53`	`Corbo`	`in high res`
`04:01.36`	`Terin`	`Does anyone know how to turn the various t3 files into an editable form?`
`04:02.43`	`Hati`	`case-sensitive xml ...`
`04:03.34`	`Terin`	`Huh?`
`04:04.22`	`JademusSreg`	`I think it would be a great idea for someone to replace the ball texture with a breast. So when we fuck up some model data or something, at least we'll get to see some tits.`
`04:05.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Pardon my language, but I stand by the statement.`
`04:05.22`	`Hati`	`hmm it's not attacking :/`
`04:15.19`	`Hati`	`i'm going to sleep over this :x`
`04:15.24`	`Hati`	`ltr`
`04:17.19`	`Bifuu`	`Woooooooo off work`
`04:17.36`	`Bifuu`	`Working on my day off = teh gayzors`
`04:17.36`	`JademusSreg`	`I just saw the vetical commands buttons Corbo. Sex.`
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`04:54.02`	`Iggyhopper`	`guys`
`04:54.23`	`Iggyhopper`	`i just made an upgrade add a nuke that follows my unit`
`04:54.31`	`Bifuu`	`O.o`
`04:54.40`	`Iggyhopper`	`not really :P`
`04:54.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
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`05:00.03`	`Corbo`	`aw crap`
`05:00.16`	`Corbo`	`making video logo was harder than I though it'd be.`
`05:00.23`	`Corbo`	`at least for 30 minutes :P`
`05:00.25`	`Iggyhopper`	`ll`
`05:00.31`	`Corbo`	`specially when AE is being gay and lagging`
`05:00.38`	`Corbo`	`and doesn't animate the brightness....`
`05:01.09`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`what logo is this`
`05:01.17`	`Iggyhopper`	`a logo of boobs`
`05:01.27`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`excellent I always wondered why boobs didnt have logos`
`05:01.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`advertising costgs`
`05:02.14`	`Corbo`	`uh`
`05:02.23`	`Iggyhopper`	`uh`
`05:02.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`vaginaz`
`05:02.35`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`:/`
`05:02.38`	`Corbo`	`I making an animated mapster logo`
`05:02.46`	`Corbo`	`so we can put in our vids as a trademark`
`05:02.49`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`ah`
`05:02.56`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`does it have lazors`
`05:03.00`	`Corbo`	`consequently it has boobs`
`05:03.02`	`Corbo`	`and pew pew lazors`
`05:03.11`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`win win`
`05:03.48`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`that pretty much covers all demographics`
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`05:19.16`	`NakDotNak`	`How's it going guys`
`05:21.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Forward, and a little toward starboard.`
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`05:23.34`	`davidcramer`	`can anyone explain to me where a custom load screen is placed?`
`05:23.47`	`davidcramer`	`need to add support to nibbits for them ><`
`05:24.25`	`JademusSreg`	`Have you checked the archives?`
`05:25.04`	`Corosus`	`well you can put it anywhere, but its path is specified in the mapinfo file`
`05:26.07`	`davidcramer`	`JademusSreg: didnt look yet`
`05:26.09`	`davidcramer`	`ah really`
`05:26.12`	`davidcramer`	`mapinfo being the binary file?`
`05:26.15`	`Corosus`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/maps/map-info/`
`05:26.16`	`Corosus`	`yeah`
`05:26.17`	`davidcramer`	`guess im gonna have to finally write my parser for that ><`
`05:26.19`	`Corosus`	`char loaderImagePath[];`
`05:26.25`	`davidcramer`	`at least the groundwork is done for me on this one :D`
`05:26.36`	`davidcramer`	`are they null terminated strings?`
`05:26.39`	`Corosus`	`you can make it fullscreen / widescreen with bit after it`
`05:26.45`	`Corosus`	`ahhhhh no i dont think so`
`05:26.51`	`davidcramer`	`neat`
`05:26.56`	`davidcramer`	`do you know how they're defined?`
`05:27.24`	`davidcramer`	`theme and planet eh?`
`05:27.37`	`Corosus`	`yeah some other options i never touch :D`
`05:27.47`	`davidcramer`	`unknownWidth -- could that be playable area vs map dimensions?`
`05:27.48`	`davidcramer`	`nicoli_s: ping`
`05:27.56`	`Corosus`	`there isnt buffer space for the path, i can just plug any size of char in`
`05:29.07`	`davidcramer`	`so it must be null terminated`
`05:29.14`	`davidcramer`	`or has a leading size col`
`05:30.14`	`Corosus`	`thinking about it now, im not sure sure, but it has to be a .dds file if thats usefull`
`05:30.49`	`davidcramer`	`hrm`
`05:30.53`	`davidcramer`	`so that means i have to be able to parse .dds?`
`05:30.57`	`davidcramer`	`><`
`05:30.59`	`davidcramer`	`isnt that a texture format`
`05:31.07`	`Corosus`	`heh yeah..... direct draw surface`
`05:32.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Photoshop opens dds. Use that?`
`05:32.38`	`Corosus`	`http://code.google.com/p/nvidia-texture-tools/`
`05:32.42`	`Corosus`	`this might help`
`05:32.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, those did help.`
`05:33.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah, I forgot about those.`
`05:33.11`	`JademusSreg`	`That's why I can open dds.`
`05:33.56`	`davidcramer`	`hrm`
`05:34.03`	`Corosus`	`im not sure if theres a nice lil api to open dds files for php/asp/pl whatever, but this source will defiantely help you make one! :P`
`05:34.39`	`davidcramer`	`cool those will compile under linux im assuming?`
`05:34.57`	`davidcramer`	`ok this wont be too bad`
`05:35.01`	`davidcramer`	`its not like i dont have 100 diff converters already`
`05:35.13`	`Corosus`	`hehe`
`05:35.20`	`Corosus`	`ahhh not sure ive never used these, just found the link`
`05:35.31`	`Corosus`	`just lookin at http://code.google.com/p/nvidia-texture-tools/wiki/CommandLineTools now`
`05:36.45`	`davidcramer`	`anyone know what it decompresses to?`
`05:36.50`	`davidcramer`	`(im not gonna do this right now, probably this weekend)`
`05:44.21`	`Corosus`	`i think it outputs tga`
`05:45.31`	`davidcramer`	`k i can deal w/ that`
`05:56.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`heyh`
`05:57.31`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok playing sc`
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`06:03.27`	`Genopath`	`ello`
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`06:09.46`	`Bifuu`	`yo`
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`07:29.04`	`vjeux`	`http://github.com/vjeux/sc2-dev/commit/72985ae0f9e0b1ed9160736a481a1a256dea520f`
`07:29.13`	`vjeux`	`grr, the merge didn't go so well :(`
`07:29.14`	`vjeux`	`Grum`
`07:31.18`	`davidcramer`	`:/`
`07:32.26`	`davidcramer`	`bad line endings or what`
`07:34.42`	`vjeux`	`I think that tortoisegit don't know how to merge`
`07:34.57`	`vjeux`	`it deletes and adds everything`
`07:36.48`	`krry`	`is there a tortoise for git?! I have totally missed that.`
`07:37.55`	`Grum`	`vjeux: omg`
`07:37.56`	`krry`	`Is it good? (other than that it cannot merge properly :) )`
`07:38.32`	`Grum`	`vjeux: clearly i shouldnt make the repo public ;)`
`07:38.41`	`vjeux`	`well, I just forked it :p`
`07:38.45`	`Grum`	`yeah saw`
`07:38.49`	`Grum`	`patching now`
`07:38.53`	`davidcramer`	`vjeux: MapInfo, are strings null-terminated?`
`07:38.53`	`vjeux`	`thanks :p`
`07:39.00`	`vjeux`	`davidcramer: have no idea`
`07:39.01`	`davidcramer`	`krry: I use git-extensions on windows`
`07:39.14`	`vjeux`	`krry: well, haven't used it much`
`07:39.15`	`davidcramer`	`vjeux: working on adding some more support to my parser :)`
`07:39.21`	`vjeux`	`it seems to work at least :p`
`07:39.24`	`vjeux`	`nice`
`07:39.39`	`davidcramer`	`what are theme and planet?`
`07:39.40`	`davidcramer`	`do you know?`
`07:39.45`	`vjeux`	`have no clue`
`07:40.00`	`krry`	`Because git is nice and all, but I just don't want to bother with the CLI version`
`07:40.36`	`krry`	`I'll look em up, for now subversion is fine`
`07:40.48`	`vjeux`	`well, the problem with the CLI version on windows, is that we have to use DOS -_-`
`07:40.55`	`davidcramer`	`vjeux: there's git bash`
`07:41.00`	`davidcramer`	`but git extensions works w/ explorer integration`
`07:41.01`	`davidcramer`	`its usable`
`07:41.07`	`davidcramer`	`its not as nice as CLI say on Linux/Mac, but its definitely usable`
`07:41.12`	`davidcramer`	`i also use it for visual studio integration`
`07:42.36`	`Sixen`	`Rawr.`
`07:43.10`	`davidcramer`	`what does "pUnk" mean?`
`07:43.13`	`davidcramer`	`must be a c++ thing`
`07:43.18`	`davidcramer`	`oh nvm`
`07:43.20`	`davidcramer`	`player unknown`
`07:43.40`	`Sixen`	`heh..`
`07:44.14`	`vjeux`	`hey Sixen`
`07:44.24`	`Grum`	`vjeux: http://github.com/grum/sc2-dev/commit/a61052a7fceb504da58bcc4721720674e26b33c8`
`07:44.28`	`vjeux`	`http://travelblog.viator.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/berlin-punk-things-to-do.jpg`
`07:44.54`	`Sixen`	`what's up vjeux?`
`07:45.23`	`Grum`	`and the problem is you are storing the files as is (ea CRLF lineendings), i tihnk those are devil seed and should only appear when you check out the code on a retard system which actually uses crlf .. hence i just store LF (handled by git btw)`
`07:45.45`	`vjeux`	`:p`
`07:46.42`	`vjeux`	`we got more than 2k unique visitors yesterday!`
`07:47.25`	`Sixen`	`Mmmm, ~15k/month`
`07:48.00`	`vjeux`	`per month means nothing when we are not even up for a month :p`
`07:48.47`	`Sixen`	`Sure we are?`
`07:48.48`	`davidcramer`	`grats :)`
`07:48.57`	`davidcramer`	`but it sbeen more than a month I think like Sixen said`
`07:49.05`	`Sixen`	`Mmmm, a little more iirc.`
`07:49.12`	`vjeux`	`yeah ... :p`
`07:49.15`	`davidcramer`	`k lets see if serialize works for MapInfo`
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`08:10.05`	`vjeux`	`Repo wake up!`
`08:10.08`	`vjeux`	`grrr`
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`08:10.31`	`vjeux`	`New announcement from vjeux: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/andromeda-patch-diff/`
`08:11.16`	`Repo`	`New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/andromeda-patch-diff/`
`08:14.24`	`davidcramer`	`http://www.pastethat.com/IL9uJ`
`08:14.25`	`davidcramer`	`yay`
`08:16.03`	`vjeux`	`nice`
`08:16.34`	`vjeux`	`shouldn't playerCount be playerS? :p`
`08:17.18`	`davidcramer`	`errm ya that var is named wrong`
`08:17.22`	`davidcramer`	`let me fix haha`
`08:17.36`	`davidcramer`	`hrm wtf loadingimagepath is a jpg?`
`08:17.39`	`davidcramer`	`you dont have to use dds?`
`08:19.09`	`Sholdak`	`http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/773/texturedterrain.png`
`08:19.22`	`Sholdak`	`mm`
`08:19.30`	`Sholdak`	`editor coming soonish :)`
`08:20.17`	`vjeux`	`WoW!`
`08:21.27`	`davidcramer`	`Sholdak: whered you see that`
`08:21.37`	`Sholdak`	`i made it :p`
`08:21.39`	`davidcramer`	`oh nvm`
`08:21.51`	`ubitux`	`vjeux: no, SC2`
`08:22.11`	`vjeux`	`what ubitux ?`
`08:22.18`	`ubitux`	`<@vjeux> WoW!`
`08:22.21`	`ubitux`	`it's not.`
`08:22.22`	`vjeux`	`lol :p`
`08:22.24`	`ubitux`	`:(`
`08:22.39`	`ubitux`	`it isn't*`
`08:24.13`	`vjeux`	`Sholdak: are you going to make it editable?`
`08:26.35`	`Viewer`	`it can be useful for unit placement`
`08:27.05`	`Viewer`	`try to add m3 visualisation`
`08:27.08`	`Viewer`	`of units`
`08:27.13`	`Viewer`	`on this terrain`
`08:27.14`	`davidcramer`	`ah hah!`
`08:27.17`	`davidcramer`	`vjeux: want my awesomeness?`
`08:27.23`	`vjeux`	`yup`
`08:27.27`	`davidcramer`	`or my random easy guesses`
`08:27.27`	`davidcramer`	`'UnknownWidth=800', 'UnknownHeight=600'`
`08:27.35`	`davidcramer`	`LoaderImageWidth and LoaderImageHeight`
`08:27.58`	`vjeux`	`go try to edit it!`
`08:28.04`	`davidcramer`	`which means uknown 6 7 and 8 are all loaderimage related`
`08:28.05`	`vjeux`	`and see if that's correct :p`
`08:28.05`	`davidcramer`	`nah im lazy`
`08:28.12`	`davidcramer`	`dont have link open anymore`
`08:28.16`	`davidcramer`	`im 99% certain its correct`
`08:28.27`	`Sholdak`	`vjeux: i'm going to let people generate heightmaps from images`
`08:28.32`	`Sholdak`	`and texture masks`
`08:28.32`	`vjeux`	`why would they store there the image format?`
`08:28.36`	`davidcramer`	`dont ask me`
`08:28.42`	`davidcramer`	`but im sure thats what it is`
`08:28.45`	`davidcramer`	`800x600 is a normal image resolution`
`08:28.48`	`Sholdak`	`so baisically you'd have to create a heightmap from another program`
`08:28.48`	`davidcramer`	`and this uses a custom image`
`08:28.55`	`Sholdak`	`say a gradient in photoshop`
`08:28.55`	`davidcramer`	`loaderimageformat is 1`
`08:29.00`	`Sholdak`	`and then you just load it in via the editor`
`08:29.34`	`vjeux`	`loaderimageformat: 1 = normal, 2 = wide`
`08:29.43`	`Sholdak`	`and yea, we'll likely use it for visualization of objects`
`08:29.50`	`vjeux`	`ok`
`08:29.51`	`Sholdak`	`eventually`
`08:30.09`	`vjeux`	`so you're not going to support terrain editing directly from the game`
`08:30.16`	`vjeux`	`editor`
`08:30.20`	`Sholdak`	`well for now`
`08:30.22`	`vjeux`	`ok`
`08:30.33`	`Sholdak`	`i think it would be interesting what people can create with other tools`
`08:30.45`	`Sholdak`	`integrated with that`
`08:30.50`	`Sholdak`	`probably something GE wont allow`
`08:30.53`	`vjeux`	`and, blizz is going to make some kickass one, no way we could ever beat it`
`08:30.59`	`Sholdak`	`right`
`08:32.40`	`vjeux`	`davidcramer: going to release you mapinfo parser on github?`
`08:33.07`	`davidcramer`	`ya`
`08:33.11`	`davidcramer`	`even tho that shit on github doesnt really work`
`08:33.14`	`davidcramer`	`its more like example code haha`
`08:34.59`	`vjeux`	`:p`
`08:39.11`	`Corosus`	`lol dont need to use dds, good to know`
`08:40.49`	`vjeux`	`what?`
`08:41.41`	`davidcramer`	`vjeux: for laoder images`
`08:41.46`	`davidcramer`	`this ones a jpg for example`
`08:41.50`	`vjeux`	`great`
`08:43.59`	`davidcramer`	`crap`
`08:44.03`	`davidcramer`	`some people use .dds files ><`
`08:44.11`	`davidcramer`	`means i gotta go deal w/ that real quick`
`08:45.02`	`davidcramer`	`i assume the dds is high resolution?`
`08:45.04`	`Grum`	`what other format should they use?`
`08:45.12`	`Grum`	`no dds is a mipmapped format`
`08:45.36`	`davidcramer`	`Grum: jpg works`
`08:45.46`	`Grum`	`you mean ingame?`
`08:45.52`	`davidcramer`	`the loader image path`
`08:45.54`	`davidcramer`	`loading screen image`
`08:46.00`	`davidcramer`	`sec ill find out in a sec`
`08:46.04`	`davidcramer`	`instlaling nvidias tool`
`08:46.07`	`Grum`	`i will shoot someone if i see jpeg artifacts O.o`
`08:46.31`	`davidcramer`	`Grum: just the loading screen image so far`
`08:46.33`	`davidcramer`	`Contra = jpg`
`08:46.50`	`Grum`	`still! jpeg == artifacts ;(`
`08:46.59`	`davidcramer`	`nothing wrong w/ jpeg`
`08:47.07`	`davidcramer`	`high quality image swith low filesize`
`08:47.21`	`davidcramer`	`waits for cmake to install`
`08:47.52`	`Grum`	`cute terrain Sholdak`
`08:48.46`	`vjeux`	`well, 100% quality jpeg takes lot less space than png for that kind of images`
`08:49.39`	`Grum`	`i call lies :(`
`08:50.15`	`davidcramer`	`oh shit`
`08:50.21`	`davidcramer`	`turns out someone already gave me a dds conversion plugin for PIL`
`08:50.26`	`vjeux`	`:p`
`08:51.05`	`Grum`	`PIL?`
`08:51.25`	`vjeux`	`Python Image Library`
`08:51.44`	`vjeux`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15561-PythonBLPconverterlibraryPIL.html`
`08:52.18`	`vjeux`	`http://pythonware.com/products/pil/`
`08:52.50`	`davidcramer`	`ya`
`08:53.03`	`davidcramer`	`ya the BLP stuff has DDS in it`
`08:56.29`	`Viewer`	`jpeg has less filesize but i think that dds is native to game engine`
`08:56.47`	`Viewer`	`so it loads faster?`
`08:58.16`	`vjeux`	`yes`
`08:58.29`	`vjeux`	`however the loading time of a jpeg image is really small`
`08:59.28`	`Sixen`	`Vjeux, anything else we need done?`
`08:59.36`	`Grum`	`Corosus: what are those money maps exactly?`
`08:59.42`	`Grum`	`you just start with loadsofresources?`
`08:59.45`	`Sixen`	`Been busy with DFans lately, we just moved from vBulletin -> IPBoard, hence why i've been so dead here :P`
`08:59.51`	`Sixen`	`But i'm back nao.`
`08:59.57`	`vjeux`	`basically yes Grum`
`09:00.01`	`vjeux`	`you gather faster`
`09:00.09`	`Grum`	`resources deplete faster?`
`09:00.12`	`vjeux`	`and have more minerals`
`09:00.20`	`vjeux`	`no depletion`
`09:00.30`	`vjeux`	`the goal is to make MASS units :p`
`09:00.46`	`Grum`	`so the amount of units also goes up?`
`09:00.47`	`vjeux`	`IPBoard is the root of all evils :p`
`09:00.54`	`Corosus`	`nah, the mineral counts per spot is 50000 instead of 1500`
`09:01.04`	`Corosus`	`same with gas`
`09:01.14`	`vjeux`	`well, it's the kind of maps you play to have fun`
`09:01.32`	`Sixen`	`eh?`
`09:01.33`	`vjeux`	`you just make 500 zerglings and rush the enemy base that have 300 zealots`
`09:01.35`	`Sixen`	`I think IPB > VB`
`09:01.38`	`Corosus`	`or if you have so many other players in the game you cant expand`
`09:01.41`	`Corosus`	`either or :D`
`09:01.42`	`Grum`	`btw vjeux i updated nearly all map related sections last night making them look more .. alike ..`
`09:01.53`	`Grum`	`also t3HardTile has sortof been figured out`
`09:02.02`	`vjeux`	`oh, what is this?`
`09:02.06`	`Grum`	`but it needs experimenting to find out what it does ;)`
`09:02.07`	`vjeux`	`i see there's a cached version`
`09:02.16`	`davidcramer`	`well thats interesting`
`09:02.17`	`vjeux`	`but why the hell would they cache it`
`09:02.22`	`davidcramer`	`a LOT of files are missing their declared loadingImage`
`09:02.32`	`Grum`	`davidcramer: the image is optional`
`09:02.40`	`davidcramer`	`but its defined`
`09:02.42`	`Grum`	`many of the blizz maps dont have them`
`09:02.43`	`davidcramer`	`and its usually a dds in Assets`
`09:02.45`	`davidcramer`	`oh`
`09:02.59`	`davidcramer`	`should it be falling back on some sc2 base data?`
`09:03.02`	`Grum`	`yes`
`09:03.04`	`Grum`	`it does that`
`09:03.06`	`davidcramer`	`damn`
`09:03.11`	`davidcramer`	`so i need to support those`
`09:03.15`	`davidcramer`	`could you test something for me grum?`
`09:03.22`	`Grum`	`depends`
`09:03.25`	`davidcramer`	`Assets\Textures\loading-braxisalpha.dds -- load that up`
`09:03.28`	`davidcramer`	`and tell me if its large resolution`
`09:03.29`	`Grum`	`i cant :)`
`09:03.32`	`davidcramer`	`damn`
`09:03.33`	`davidcramer`	`can anyone here?`
`09:03.36`	`vjeux`	`if there isn't a custom image, then the normal loading screen goes on (the one where you see the minimap + players loading bars)`
`09:03.48`	`vjeux`	`give the map davidcramer`
`09:04.14`	`Corosus`	`hmm`
`09:04.22`	`davidcramer`	`thats not a custom one`
`09:04.26`	`vjeux`	`oh ok`
`09:04.26`	`davidcramer`	`its asking for that`
`09:04.27`	`vjeux`	`let me see`
`09:04.30`	`davidcramer`	`so im assuming thats in the core files`
`09:04.35`	`davidcramer`	`i dont have them off hand (its on my other pc)`
`09:05.09`	`vjeux`	`2048 * 1160 * 60`
`09:05.10`	`Corosus`	`lets see here`
`09:05.13`	`vjeux`	`oops *24`
`09:05.19`	`Corosus`	`yeah`
`09:05.20`	`Corosus`	`that`
`09:06.02`	`Corosus`	`they all seem to be that size, at least for the jpg versions i have`
`09:06.43`	`vjeux`	`are those images available somehow in the normal game?`
`09:07.00`	`davidcramer`	`vjeux: well the way it refs files`
`09:07.03`	`davidcramer`	`but thats SEXY`
`09:07.12`	`davidcramer`	`means i can generate full map images as long as i have those assets available locally`
`09:07.23`	`vjeux`	`great`
`09:07.25`	`davidcramer`	`vjeux: wone more favor please? :D`
`09:07.30`	`davidcramer`	`could you zip all loading-* images in there for me?`
`09:07.32`	`davidcramer`	`I'll <3 you long time`
`09:07.43`	`vjeux`	`I was working on it :`
`09:07.44`	`vjeux`	`p`
`09:08.03`	`Corosus`	`id say theyre hiding in an mpq, but theyre obviously not working`
`09:08.06`	`davidcramer`	`ady's DDS plugin sadly didnt work (guess he got it off someone else)`
`09:08.08`	`davidcramer`	`so im gonna try nvidia for it`
`09:09.06`	`davidcramer`	`ya nvidias stuff works good`
`09:09.16`	`vjeux`	`want them in dds or jpg?`
`09:09.27`	`davidcramer`	`dds is fine`
`09:09.30`	`davidcramer`	`ill deal w/ conversion manually`
`09:09.36`	`davidcramer`	`im just gonna keep a local copy of sc2 assets on the server i guess`
`09:11.01`	`Corosus`	`makes sense, unless custom one which is hopefully in the map file`
`09:11.37`	`vjeux`	`http://www.fooo.fr/~vjeux/curse/sc2/sc2galaxyfiles.rar`
`09:12.32`	`davidcramer`	`gonna try fixing the dds plugin real quick`
`09:12.42`	`davidcramer`	`Corosus: ya, which obviously supports at least dds and jpg`
`09:12.46`	`davidcramer`	`thanks vjeux`
`09:12.51`	`davidcramer`	`ill let you know when i got this workin :D`
`09:21.05`	`davidcramer`	`hrm vjeux that file doesnt seem to have those?`
`09:21.07`	`davidcramer`	`the .dds files right?`
`09:23.14`	`vjeux`	`what`
`09:23.55`	`vjeux`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/blizzard-loading-screens/images/`
`09:24.12`	`Repo`	`New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/blizzard-loading-screens/. Blizzard - Loading Screens. vjeux (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux.`
`09:25.03`	`davidcramer`	`i meant the .dds files`
`09:25.03`	`davidcramer`	`:(`
`09:25.14`	`davidcramer`	`oh wait these are loading screen images, do i really want these`
`09:25.16`	`davidcramer`	`ya i do i guess`
`09:25.28`	`vjeux`	`well, the rar contains all the loading screens`
`09:25.34`	`vjeux`	`in dds`
`09:25.35`	`davidcramer`	`what dir ar ethey in?`
`09:26.36`	`vjeux`	`Assets/Textures/`
`09:27.21`	`davidcramer`	`i think you got the wrong zip or something`
`09:28.16`	`vjeux`	`fuck`
`09:28.24`	`davidcramer`	`:D`
`09:28.29`	`vjeux`	`http://www.fooo.fr/~vjeux/curse/sc2/loading%20images.rar`
`09:28.33`	`vjeux`	`sorry linked you the wrong one`
`09:29.49`	`davidcramer`	`im gonna just make a list of the default loading screens I suppose`
`09:29.52`	`davidcramer`	`and if its one of those, ignore it`
`09:32.06`	`davidcramer`	`http://sc2.nibbits.com/maps/project/106/simanai-v031-scrap-station`
`09:32.07`	`davidcramer`	`hehe yay`
`09:32.51`	`vjeux`	`nice`
`09:33.47`	`vjeux`	`lol my sc2 account is in platinium league`
`09:33.51`	`vjeux`	`sharing ftw :p`
`09:34.50`	`davidcramer`	`:D`
`09:35.46`	`Sixen`	`lol my sc2 account is in platinium league`
`09:35.49`	`Sixen`	`me being pro ftw :P`
`09:38.53`	`davidcramer`	`http://sc2.nibbits.com/maps/view/131645/ffa-v6-shakuras-plateau-crazy-computer`
`09:38.54`	`davidcramer`	`lol`
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`09:45.06`	`vjeux`	`hey Witchsong`
`09:45.12`	`Witchsong`	`Heya`
`10:04.51`	`Witchsong`	`I have a List<List<ISerializable>> containing lists of objects... ISerializable are implemented in all my classes, BUT I also have lists of primitive types (UInt16, Int16, Int32 etc.). When I write these lists, I write through all ISerializable objects and calls the Write function in the interface.`
`10:04.57`	`Witchsong`	`But, that doesn't work for the primitive types.`
`10:05.07`	`Witchsong`	`As those don't implement the interface.`
`10:05.10`	`Witchsong`	`How to solve that?`
`10:09.42`	`Witchsong`	`I want to avoid if-checking for every single primitive type...`
`10:11.02`	`Grum`	`oh shit haha`
`10:11.07`	`Grum`	`i accidently fucked up the gitrepo :P`
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`10:13.24`	`Witchsong`	`Ordered my new PSU now. Hope replacing the old one is gonna stop the random restarts.`
`10:13.41`	`Witchsong`	`What's the normal lifetime of a PSU?`
`10:13.42`	`Grum`	`i accidently commited some vim swapfiles with it =) ... fixed ;)`
`10:13.55`	`Grum`	`Witchsong: you have random restarts?`
`10:14.02`	`Witchsong`	`Ya.`
`10:14.04`	`Grum`	`using windows? turn off the 'automatic restart on errors' :p`
`10:14.14`	`Witchsong`	`It's not that.`
`10:14.28`	`Witchsong`	`It just powers down for a few seconds, then it powers up again.`
`10:14.45`	`Witchsong`	`No quick flash of blue-screen.`
`10:14.56`	`Grum`	`what powers down? your whole pc? O.o`
`10:14.59`	`Witchsong`	`Ya.`
`10:15.12`	`Witchsong`	`As if someone would have pulled the plug.`
`10:15.19`	`Witchsong`	`Just that it gets the power back after a few seconds.`
`10:15.24`	`Grum`	`are you sure the outlet you are plugged into is ok? O.o`
`10:15.25`	`Witchsong`	`And then it starts up.`
`10:15.40`	`Witchsong`	`Should be, my TV uses it too without any issues.`
`10:16.28`	`Witchsong`	`However, I think the PSU is like 5 years old now, and it might be failing.`
`10:16.41`	`Grum`	`vjeux: can you change the link in http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/andromeda-patch-diff/ to http://github.com/grum/sc2-dev/commit/a51bff414368c2987dfc0c106f30305865fc02a2 please?`
`10:17.00`	`vjeux`	`sure`
`10:17.23`	`Grum`	`i noticed i accidently added some of my vim swapfiles ... :P`
`10:17.27`	`Grum`	`so fixed that ;)`
`10:17.29`	`Witchsong`	`But, anyone got an answer to my C# issue I mentioned further up...`
`10:17.31`	`Witchsong`	`?`
`10:17.43`	`vjeux`	`haven't done any C# so ... can't help you i'm sorry`
`10:18.48`	`vjeux`	`done`
`10:19.01`	`Grum`	`vjeux: i also documented the lava shit in http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/maps/t3water/`
`10:19.22`	`vjeux`	`kewl`
`10:19.29`	`Grum`	`i kinda updated all documentation`
`10:21.42`	`Grum`	`made them all look mostly the same`
`10:21.42`	`vjeux`	`yeah you are now using C structs`
`10:21.42`	`Grum`	`well i sortof was before ... but they were kinda wonky`
`10:21.42`	`Grum`	`these should work when pasted into 010 Editor`
`10:21.55`	`Grum`	`BLOCK blocks[ (FileSize()-64)/(64*32) ]; <-- that is still kinda lame though (in the t3TextureMasks)`
`10:22.05`	`vjeux`	`:p`
`10:22.46`	`Grum`	`but i removed all unknowns, change them into a guess of some kind and all the header zero bytes to DWORD zero[x]; added the DWORD magic; // XXXX for each filetype`
`10:23.10`	`Grum`	`and renamed all the second UINTs to 'UINT version; // current: xxx'`
`10:23.20`	`Grum`	`with a version i've seen in one of the files`
`10:23.24`	`Grum`	`(one of the newer files)`
`10:23.42`	`Grum`	`t3Terrain.xml needs a description though`
`10:23.58`	`Grum`	`a proper one :p`
`10:24.54`	`vjeux`	`you are documentation master :)`
`10:25.10`	`vjeux`	`but see, now Sholdak is going to add it inside mwe thanks to you :)`
`10:26.10`	`vjeux`	`your efforts are rewarded :)`
`10:26.42`	`Grum`	`meh i hate documentin`
`10:27.16`	`Grum`	`btw have you ever played Shattered Galaxy?`
`10:28.28`	`Grum`	`http://sgalaxy.com/ it has a 'capture' element in the game and you play with a certain groupcomposition of units`
`10:29.34`	`vjeux`	`lol @ the url :p`
`10:29.53`	`vjeux`	`they are going to get many visits :p`
`10:30.03`	`Grum`	`you have to stand on certain locations called POCs for a certain amount of time to capture them`
`10:30.18`	`Grum`	`its a game element which might be repeatable in SC2 and its actually quite fun :)`
`10:30.42`	`Grum`	`here; http://sgalaxy.com/images/screenshots/battle8.jpg one of the 'POC's on the righthand side`
`10:31.14`	`Grum`	`you just control a combination of 6-12 units which you can 'gear'`
`10:37.11`	`vjeux`	`anyway got to go`
`10:37.13`	`vjeux`	`cya later`
`10:38.27`	`Sixen`	`grum, you play SG?`
`10:38.27`	`Sixen`	`I used to love that game..`
`10:38.40`	`Sixen`	`been so long since i've played it, but that game was so epic`
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`10:45.30`	`Hati`	`o/`
`10:55.47`	`krry`	`Witchsong: read your question but I don't know enough .NET-fu to understand it :)`
`10:57.01`	`Witchsong`	`I'm just gonna make a struct for each primitive data type, which has a member of that type and implements the needed interface. Not very pretty, but at least it will work. :p`
`10:58.25`	`krry`	`sounds like an OK workaround`
`11:10.30`	`Hati`	`manipulating models kinda works ...`
`11:10.37`	`Hati`	`but make them able to do something o.O`
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`11:18.04`	`Grum`	`Sixen: used to play it yeah`
`11:18.09`	`Grum`	`it was quite wtfbbqnice`
`11:18.37`	`Grum`	`Sixen: would be so nice to 'remake' it in sc2 ;)`
`11:22.00`	`Grum`	`btw i quite like how blizz handles the patches in sc2`
`11:22.08`	`Grum`	`compared to WoW its way cleaner`
`11:26.26`	`Hati`	`hmmyea`
`11:26.42`	`Hati`	`just replacement of data`
`11:28.46`	`Grum`	`wow rebuilds a patch mpq file every time`
`11:28.58`	`Grum`	`then again if we'd have all iterative data since 1.0 your folder would be 4 times the size`
`11:49.46`	`Hati`	`ActorData seems like the most commented file oO`
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`12:40.44`	`PixelWarrior`	`oo loading screens`
`12:45.17`	`Hati`	`:(`
`12:45.23`	`PixelWarrior`	`??`
`12:45.53`	`Hati`	`can't get attached unit to attack`
`12:46.32`	`PixelWarrior`	`attached unit?`
`12:47.14`	`Hati`	`yea`
`12:49.59`	`Hati`	`a unit attached to another`
`12:51.28`	`PixelWarrior`	`like how bloodlings are attached to brood lord?`
`12:53.01`	`Hati`	`kinda`
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`12:59.16`	`Hati`	`but i didn't looked into Broodlord`
`12:59.19`	`Hati`	`that could do it :o`
`13:01.13`	`Hati`	`i looked into SpawningLarva`
`13:01.20`	`Hati`	`how it applies Eggs to Hatchery+`
`13:01.30`	`PixelWarrior`	`larva dont do shit`
`13:01.35`	`Hati`	`they explode :O`
`13:03.06`	`Hati`	`k guess that's 'how' it can be done`
`13:03.36`	`PixelWarrior`	`ive noticed that the projection of broodlings from the brood lord is kinda weird`
`13:03.45`	`PixelWarrior`	`im not sure if its supposed to be like that`
`13:03.56`	`Grum`	`we need a unit that can throw other units!`
`13:03.59`	`Grum`	`or doodads :P`
`13:04.05`	`PixelWarrior`	`but they kinda float out, then shoot really fast towards the target`
`13:04.05`	`Hati`	`well Grum`
`13:04.10`	`Hati`	`that can be done easily`
`13:04.15`	`Hati`	`by Ammo Type`
`13:04.22`	`Hati`	`you can also give Marines just 6Ammo`
`13:04.27`	`Hati`	`so they can only attack 6 times`
`13:04.30`	`Hati`	`like survival shooter`
`13:04.31`	`Grum`	`we need a protos mega-gun that shoots stalkers ;)`
`13:04.47`	`PixelWarrior`	`ammo type = stalkers`
`13:04.53`	`Hati`	`yup`
`13:05.30`	`PixelWarrior`	`make zealots shoot HADOKENS`
`13:05.56`	`Grum`	`make ultralisks shoot ultralisks :(`
`13:06.01`	`PixelWarrior`	`can we put custom animation into maps?`
`13:06.10`	`Hati`	`xD`
`13:06.14`	`Grum`	`like what?`
`13:06.16`	`Hati`	`if you can do it`
`13:06.18`	`Hati`	`i guess you can`
`13:06.22`	`Grum`	`it depends`
`13:06.30`	`Grum`	`you cannot dynamicly change the map or textures i think`
`13:06.31`	`Hati`	`Hadoken you could make a row of ArchonMerge`
`13:06.38`	`PixelWarrior`	`like a SHORYUKEN animation for zealots`
`13:06.46`	`Hati`	`or archonmerge with archonattack lightning`
`13:06.53`	`Hati`	`should not be that hard`
`13:07.07`	`Grum`	`you can probably make a dynamic doodad`
`13:07.15`	`Grum`	`you can prolly scale/size/move it through code`
`13:07.19`	`Grum`	`we should make frogger =)`
`13:07.28`	`Hati`	`but`
`13:07.29`	`PixelWarrior`	`wth man, the photon canons pretty much a hadoken`
`13:07.32`	`Hati`	`<ExternalAngle value="-149.9853"/>`
`13:07.41`	`Hati`	`wonder if there's also a value for pitch`
`13:07.50`	`Hati`	`because this one just 'uses' same height`
`13:07.56`	`Hati`	`which kinda sucks`
`13:08.09`	`Grum`	`just curious`
`13:08.16`	`PixelWarrior`	`can we change the tragectory?`
`13:08.19`	`Grum`	`airunits are floating because they have a static height?`
`13:08.26`	`PixelWarrior`	`yes`
`13:08.29`	`PixelWarrior`	`no`
`13:08.30`	`PixelWarrior`	`not static`
`13:08.52`	`PixelWarrior`	`they go up and down according to the terrain theyre flying over`
`13:08.57`	`Hati`	`yea grum`
`13:08.59`	`Grum`	`i've seen them drop down into the 'nothingness' at the end of a map`
`13:09.08`	`Grum`	`so its a static relative height`
`13:09.09`	`Hati`	`they have a static Z offset`
`13:09.11`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`13:09.13`	`Grum`	`that i meant`
`13:09.16`	`PixelWarrior`	`yeah`
`13:09.31`	`Grum`	`their bounding box is just 'extended' to the bottom so it appears they fly`
`13:09.43`	`Grum`	`can you lock units at a certain height? or can you change that dynamicly?`
`13:10.07`	`Grum`	`if so you can make boats`
`13:10.42`	`Hati`	`k`
`13:10.48`	`Hati`	`just made a carrier with external interceptors :P`
`13:10.59`	`PixelWarrior`	`nice`
`13:11.02`	`PixelWarrior`	`they dont dock?`
`13:11.08`	`Hati`	`4 aren't`
`13:11.11`	`art[]`	`it'd be neat if they docked externally`
`13:11.15`	`Grum`	`haha yeah`
`13:11.27`	`PixelWarrior`	`broodlings dock externally`
`13:11.31`	`Hati`	`but lo0oks kinda crappy :P`
`13:11.33`	`Hati`	`through range`
`13:12.00`	`PixelWarrior`	`but external docking would be AWESOME of scrolling shooter games`
`13:12.12`	`Hati`	`http://yfrog.com/eqscreenshot011xj`
`13:12.26`	`Grum`	`so cute :D`
`13:12.53`	`art[]`	`the protoss mothership needs 100 interceptors that dock externally`
`13:13.02`	`Hati`	`^^`
`13:13.02`	`art[]`	`that would be intimidating`
`13:13.03`	`Grum`	`make them fly formations`
`13:13.06`	`Hati`	`could be done i guess`
`13:13.11`	`lolwut`	`100 mini phoenixs`
`13:13.12`	`Hati`	`ArmMagazine seems quite powerful`
`13:13.13`	`Grum`	`form a huge cock and then nuke something`
`13:13.13`	`lolwut`	`would be pro`
`13:13.25`	`Grum`	`oh O.o ;D`
`13:14.22`	`Hati`	`you could also attach 2 Zerg eggs on Spinecrawler`
`13:14.32`	`Hati`	`there you go for cock`
`13:14.38`	`lolwut`	`o wow`
`13:14.46`	`Grum`	`haaha`
`13:14.49`	`PixelWarrior`	`why spine crawler?`
`13:14.56`	`PixelWarrior`	`should do it to the air one`
`13:14.57`	`Grum`	`and then scale when you get a lot of minerals`
`13:15.00`	`Grum`	`to dispayepeen!`
`13:15.19`	`Grum`	`pylon+2probes should look sortof the same if you stretch it properly ;)`
`13:15.21`	`Hati`	`http://i50.tinypic.com/14lrhqb.gif`
`13:15.23`	`Hati`	`because of this`
`13:15.43`	`PixelWarrior`	`DUDE!`
`13:15.45`	`lolwut`	`oh double wow`
`13:15.51`	`Grum`	`lalaolalalalaolalalaoalaoalaol`
`13:16.02`	`PixelWarrior`	`GG`
`13:16.04`	`PixelWarrior`	`rofl`
`13:16.27`	`Grum`	`we need avatars`
`13:16.33`	`Grum`	`which do that stuff witheachother :p`
`13:16.38`	`Grum`	`depending on how the battles goes`
`13:18.33`	`Hati`	`well interceptors are still stupid oO`
`13:18.47`	`Hati`	`haven't tried but i guess they are flying back into the Carrier`
`13:18.49`	`Hati`	`to get launched`
`13:18.53`	`Hati`	`even if they are already outside`
`13:19.15`	`Hati`	`oh no they aren't`
`13:19.18`	`Hati`	`nice`
`13:19.53`	`Hati`	`epic`
`13:22.08`	`Viewer`	`is there any way to revive dead heroes without loss of level and abilities?`
`13:23.48`	`Hati`	`CAbilRevival`
`13:23.49`	`Hati`	`is there`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`i tried to use CAbilRevive but it does not works`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<CAbilRevive id="ReviveHero">`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<Activity value="UI/Reviving"/>`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<Alert value="ReviveComplete"/>`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<Flags index="BestUnit" value="1"/>`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<NameOverride value="UI/Revive_S"/>`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:23.49`	`Viewer`	`</CAbilRevive>`
`13:23.52`	`Hati`	`and?`
`13:24.35`	`Viewer`	`and nothing`
`13:24.45`	`Viewer`	`no button appeared`
`13:27.51`	`Viewer`	`i think that reviving can work`
`13:28.04`	`Viewer`	`but`
`13:28.28`	`PixelWarrior`	`mmm`
`13:28.38`	`PixelWarrior`	`whic building did u attach that ability to?`
`13:28.56`	`Viewer`	`game deletes unit data after death?`
`13:29.32`	`Viewer`	`PixelWarrior: a new unit based on warpprism`
`13:30.44`	`Viewer`	`it can hire new heroes with train ability`
`13:30.55`	`Viewer`	`but it can't revive them`
`13:40.06`	`Grum`	`Viewer: what is not working the UI element of the reviving?`
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`14:40.49`	`Hati`	`Alot of tears in SC2 Beta forum from zerg players :o`
`14:42.15`	`monoframe`	`More like goo-slime coming out of their eyes, zergs don't have tears`
`14:42.16`	`vjeux`	`:p`
`14:42.29`	`vjeux`	`they deserved it!`
`14:43.07`	`Hati`	`hmm EquipmentArray ...`
`14:43.39`	`monoframe`	`Will these balanses fit the StarCraft 2 Campaign at all?`
`14:43.56`	`Hati`	`dunno`
`14:43.58`	`Hati`	`but i guess no`
`14:44.03`	`monoframe`	`As in, they're being pushed Multiplayer-wise`
`14:44.06`	`monoframe`	`not Singleplayer`
`14:44.10`	`Hati`	`I guess there will be seperate Singleplayer units`
`14:54.11`	`vjeux`	`http://starcraftrankings.com`
`14:54.14`	`vjeux`	`do you know that website?`
`14:55.23`	`Hati`	`yes, i now know it :P`
`14:56.11`	`vjeux`	`how did he get the values?`
`14:56.26`	`Hati`	`dunno`
`14:56.33`	`Hati`	`manual entry?`
`14:56.45`	`Hati`	`it's "just" platinum leagues`
`14:56.51`	`Hati`	`platinum divisions*`
`14:57.24`	`vjeux`	`manually entered 3500 rows?`
`14:57.46`	`Hati`	`Ppl are bored today`
`14:57.50`	`vjeux`	`xD`
`14:58.33`	`monoframe`	`"Well, lets re-code and re-compile original Starcraft now..."`
`14:58.55`	`Hati`	`´Pah, i don't got a Beta key - I do my own SC2 ?`
`14:59.07`	`Hati`	`starting tomorrow`
`15:00.03`	`Hati`	`k CAbilArmMagazine don't be the right way to create Uberlisk`
`15:00.17`	`Hati`	`but it can become handy for Sporecrawlers shooting banelings :>`
`15:01.20`	`vjeux`	`:p`
`15:02.22`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`15:02.38`	`Hati`	`ActorData On Terms=, * might be a wildcard`
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`15:06.35`	`Hati`	`so lets see`
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`15:09.11`	`Hati`	`yup seems like a Wildcard`
`15:10.13`	`vjeux`	`great`
`15:11.11`	`Hati`	`or the Ultralisk burrow animation just suck`
`15:12.31`	`Hati`	`yea ultralisk animation just suck oO`
`15:12.44`	`monoframe`	`So anyone up on how to define model's, unit's animation set-type using ActorData.xml s:`
`15:12.46`	`Hati`	`he acts like falling into the ground`
`15:12.48`	`monoframe`	`?`
`15:13.15`	`monoframe`	`Hati, this is Beta, you know`
`15:13.27`	`Hati`	`still it looks crappy :<`
`15:13.33`	`monoframe`	`THEN MODEL EET`
`15:13.35`	`Hati`	`more love for ultralisk`
`15:13.40`	`monoframe`	`AND CONFIGURE EET THE ROIGHT WAY!`
`15:13.41`	`monoframe`	`DO EET`
`15:19.11`	`monoframe`	`You know 5 Hive's Larvae-exit tubes? Those could be used for...ADDON MODS!`
`15:39.29`	`Alevice_Work`	`vjeux check your thread`
`15:42.10`	`vjeux`	`k`
`15:43.53`	`PixelWarrior`	`ultralisks shouldnt be able to burrow`
`15:44.09`	`JademusSreg`	`I disagree.`
`15:44.14`	`PixelWarrior`	`or only on creep`
`15:44.23`	`JademusSreg`	`What sense would that make?`
`15:44.28`	`PixelWarrior`	`its like a tauren rogue`
`15:44.31`	`Alevice_Work`	`They hsould burrow, but not get invisibility :P`
`15:44.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha, then it would be pointless.`
`15:44.44`	`PixelWarrior`	`how do u hide such a beast of a thing? LOL`
`15:44.49`	`Alevice_Work`	`regenration maybe?`
`15:44.54`	`Alevice_Work`	`ala crypt fiend`
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`15:45.06`	`JademusSreg`	`That would be awesome. For Zerg players.`
`15:45.11`	`Alevice_Work`	`of course`
`15:45.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Everyone else would be pissed.`
`15:45.16`	`Alevice_Work`	`ultra regen!`
`15:45.36`	`Alevice_Work`	`well, its a fucking late tier unit. and with void rays you could kill ultras that arent attacking`
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`15:46.06`	`Alevice_Work`	`ultras are hardly versatile and that powerufl anyway`
`15:46.23`	`Alevice_Work`	`they are slow, only deal melee damage in a small aoe and thats all`
`15:46.42`	`Alevice_Work`	`oh, they have a tough caparace`
`15:46.52`	`Alevice_Work`	`but still focused fire fries them rapidly`
`15:46.55`	`Ackis`	`http://bit.ly/bJN5sD SC2 CE`
`15:48.14`	`Alevice_Work`	`stanard sc2 59.99?`
`15:48.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Good. Use them as diversions.`
`15:50.35`	`monoframe`	`"visually unique version of the terran Thor unit"`
`15:50.36`	`monoframe`	`what`
`15:51.14`	`Ackis`	`might pre-order SC2 CE to resell at a later date`
`15:52.49`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`15:53.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha, mini Thor pet.`
`15:54.13`	`Hati`	`dunno i preordered for 25Pounds`
`15:54.49`	`PixelWarrior`	`thats alot of extra stuff`
`15:54.56`	`PixelWarrior`	`i wouldnt mind paying extra for it`
`15:55.06`	`Hati`	`well ...`
`15:55.07`	`Hati`	`- A World of Warcraft(R) mini Thor in-game pet that can be applied to all World of Warcraft characters on a single Battle.net account.`
`15:55.10`	`Hati`	`if you don't play WOW`
`15:55.12`	`Hati`	`it just sucks`
`15:55.28`	`vjeux`	`:p`
`15:55.35`	`PixelWarrior`	`176 page art book`
`15:55.37`	`PixelWarrior`	`thats decent`
`15:55.38`	`JademusSreg`	`SC battlechest is worth about 20 bucks. SC2 is about 60.`
`15:55.41`	`Hati`	`- Exclusive Battle.net downloadable content, including special portraits for your Battle.net profile, decals to customize your units in-game, and a visually unique version of the terran Thor unit, ... i smell something serious strange`
`15:55.55`	`monoframe`	`Well, as mentioned, a special visual look unlock for Thor`
`15:56.03`	`JademusSreg`	`So the rest should be about $20 of value.`
`15:56.06`	`Hati`	`DLC to customize multiplayer units ... ?`
`15:56.12`	`monoframe`	`BS!`
`15:56.14`	`monoframe`	`or not?`
`15:56.39`	`Hati`	`decals to customize your units in-game,terran Thor unit, ... i smell something serious strange`
`15:56.46`	`JademusSreg`	`I expect that is the scent of things to come.`
`15:56.55`	`vjeux`	`$$$ everywhere!`
`15:56.56`	`PixelWarrior`	`april fools type strange?`
`15:57.11`	`Hati`	`well if so ... we might see pink bunny zerglings`
`15:57.28`	`PixelWarrior`	`10 dollars to have ur zerg look like dalmations`
`15:58.12`	`PixelWarrior`	`players might rage quit if blizzard start monatizing too hard`
`15:59.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Only if they really interfere with the game, or if the players weren't really into the game to begin with.`
`15:59.50`	`JademusSreg`	`I really don't care what they sell.`
`16:00.04`	`JademusSreg`	`It doesn't effect me using Battlenet for free to play the game.`
`16:00.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Damn.`
`16:00.43`	`JademusSreg`	`I forgot to add a "really" to my last sentence.`
`16:00.52`	`Alevice_Work`	`Exactly. If said bunny zerglings had a speed bonus for eating carrots, I would be pissed. But if it is only a cosmetic chnage only the guy whp paid for it can see it I dun care`
`16:01.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`*sight bonus`
`16:01.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`16:01.41`	`Ackis`	`Hati: you could sell the code on ebay for a decent price I think`
`16:01.44`	`Hati`	`well depends on where the change are allowed :P`
`16:02.06`	`Hati`	`changes*`
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`16:03.06`	`Ackis`	`Dawn of War 2 has special skins for your units if you register the game/buy through their shop`
`16:03.48`	`Alevice_Work`	`Aye. But they dont get extra gear`
`16:03.50`	`Alevice_Work`	`IIRC`
`16:04.34`	`Ackis`	`nope, just visually different`
`16:04.45`	`Alevice_Work`	`yeah`
`16:04.51`	`Alevice_Work`	`so it is fair game, iMO`
`16:05.28`	`Hati`	`as long as you can't do crazy stuff i agree`
`16:08.19`	`JademusSreg`	`I sreiously doubt they would sell services that would have any effect on balance.`
`16:08.51`	`JademusSreg`	`I mean, they may fuck up ocassionally, but they aren't stupid.`
`16:09.21`	`monoframe`	`ya right...Give WoWteam to develop Diablo 3`
`16:10.01`	`Hati`	`<Movers Link="SpineCrawlerTentacleExtendShort" IfRangeLTE="3"/>`
`16:10.01`	`Hati`	`<Movers Link="SpineCrawlerTentacleExtendLong" IfRangeLTE="7"/>`
`16:10.03`	`Hati`	`o.o`
`16:10.11`	`Hati`	`IfRangeLTE o.O`
`16:11.16`	`Hati`	`wasn't it MinimumRange for Weapons?`
`16:11.32`	`Hati`	`read it somewhere for siegetanks do apply MinimumRange in siegemode`
`16:13.06`	`Alevice_Work`	`movers might do it for graphical behaviour rather than other things`
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`16:18.13`	`Fisker`	`not that big a deal`
`16:18.27`	`Fisker`	`customizable decals have been in play for a long time btw`
`16:18.33`	`JademusSreg`	`Neat.`
`16:18.36`	`Fisker`	`i recall that being mentioned in one of their first multiplayer previews`
`16:18.46`	`Fisker`	`You can unlock achievements to get decals that will be applied to your units`
`16:19.01`	`Fisker`	`instead of standard protoss/zerg/terran emblems`
`16:19.24`	`Fisker`	`That they do a model swap + give you some extra decals and portraits is no big deal here :P`
`16:19.32`	`Fisker`	`looking forward to the WoW pet though`
`16:19.36`	`Fisker`	`the Thor is awesome`
`16:22.06`	`Alevice_Work`	`current emblem for terran is dominion's btw.`
`16:23.05`	`Fisker`	`yeah`
`16:25.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm.`
`16:25.57`	`JademusSreg`	`I wonder if we'll be seeing emblem and decal design contests in the near future.`
`16:26.04`	`Alevice_Work`	`mayhaps`
`16:27.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Which reminds me of a dream I had.`
`16:27.37`	`ckknight`	`a bicycle-throwing contest`
`16:27.47`	`Fisker`	`a give me the fucking ce ckknight`
`16:27.54`	`ckknight`	`and if I refuse?`
`16:28.00`	`Fisker`	`not so much`
`16:28.03`	`JademusSreg`	`I dreamt the white circle in my Jademite emblem was firing gamma-wavelength lasers.`
`16:28.09`	`Fisker`	`but i hope that Blizzard puts up the CE on their own store`
`16:28.22`	`Fisker`	`i'm sick and tired of scalping retailers who cheat their customers`
`16:28.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Later, there was an enormous conga line. The two are unrelated.`
`16:28.36`	`vjeux`	`grrr, parenting does not work at all on actordata :(`
`16:28.48`	`Fisker`	`have you tried reverse psychology vjeux?`
`16:28.59`	`vjeux`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:29.15`	`vjeux`	`they should use ##id## instead of Ultralisk ...`
`16:29.20`	`Alevice_Work`	`yeah, paernting and actor data dont work save for stuff that is stored at core.mod`
`16:29.36`	`Fisker`	`anyway ckknight`
`16:29.38`	`Fisker`	`listen to my rage`
`16:29.43`	`Alevice_Work`	`fucking blows as fuck`
`16:30.12`	`ckknight`	`Fisker: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-`
`16:30.29`	`Fisker`	`With the Wrath CE, many retailers sold the CE at double the MSRP`
`16:30.31`	`*** part/#sc2mapster ubitux (~ubitux@did75-20-88-183-34-32.fbx.proxad.net)`
`16:30.39`	`Fisker`	`And many retailers so obviously oversold their stock`
`16:30.41`	`Fisker`	`and never told people`
`16:30.44`	`Fisker`	`fuckers`
`16:31.44`	`Hati`	`vjeux makes no difference if you do UltraliskPortrait or ##id##Portrait`
`16:31.56`	`Hati`	`just some effort`
`16:32.00`	`Fisker`	`btw ckknight`
`16:32.02`	`Bif`	`lol CE's are a waste =P`
`16:32.04`	`Fisker`	`did you see this little tidbit?`
`16:32.16`	`vjeux`	`well, if using Ultralisk portrait it fucks up parenting`
`16:32.22`	`Fisker`	`"Additional information about StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, including the release date, will be announced in the coming weeks."`
`16:32.32`	`vjeux`	`you can't make a new actor where parent="Ultralisk"`
`16:32.46`	`Bif`	`Where is that O.o`
`16:32.46`	`Hati`	`you can?`
`16:33.01`	`vjeux`	`well, you can but you will get half of the properties`
`16:33.05`	`Hati`	`just do in the child <PortraitModel value =""/>`
`16:33.14`	`Bifuu`	`Oh hey im connected twice, who knew`
`16:33.19`	`Hati`	`overwrite it o.o`
`16:33.28`	`vjeux`	`well I don't want to copy & paste the whole thing`
`16:33.44`	`vjeux`	`just want to make <CActor id="TDWave1" parent="Ultralisk" />`
`16:33.57`	`vjeux`	`and it automagically is an Ultralisk`
`16:34.29`	`Hati`	`It is?`
`16:34.35`	`vjeux`	`no it's not`
`16:34.42`	`Hati`	`but you have to default id="Ultralisk"`
`16:34.53`	`vjeux`	`what?`
`16:35.11`	`Hati`	`you have to default="1" what you want to parent as far as i see`
`16:35.55`	`Hati`	`<CActorUnit default="1" id="ZergBuilding" parent="GenericUnitStandard">`
`16:35.56`	`Hati`	`ie`
`16:36.19`	`vjeux`	`omg it works`
`16:36.29`	`vjeux`	`what's wrong with parenting without default!?`
`16:36.33`	`Hati`	`dunno`
`16:36.42`	`Hati`	`guessing default is just making it "global"`
`16:36.47`	`vjeux`	`that's lame`
`16:36.50`	`Hati`	`if you see the whole xml-stuff as variables`
`16:37.52`	`Alevice_Work`	`fucking lame as shit`
`16:38.40`	`Hati`	`i'm still looking for all the Send=""-values ...`
`16:38.41`	`JademusSreg`	`BVtw, Levi, did you find out if attributes work for non heroes?`
`16:38.46`	`Hati`	`there's a ModelSwap`
`16:38.59`	`Hati`	`might there's also ModelAdd`
`16:40.43`	`Hati`	`+`
`16:40.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster krry (~d5640f32@gateway/web/freenode/x-omeuuvsddtyokshn)`
`16:40.50`	`Hati`	`there seems to be a On Term="Level"`
`16:41.25`	`vjeux`	`hmm, default="1" makes it global indeed`
`16:41.34`	`vjeux`	`but it doens't fix my parenting problem :(`
`16:42.06`	`Hati`	`?`
`16:42.13`	`Hati`	`what's still wrong?`
`16:42.22`	`vjeux`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:42.25`	`vjeux`	`I want to do that`
`16:42.38`	`Hati`	`yea`
`16:42.41`	`vjeux`	`what I did was making default="1" to all parents`
`16:43.01`	`Hati`	`yea`
`16:43.17`	`Hati`	`so whats going wrong?`
`16:43.19`	`vjeux`	`but only the last one works`
`16:43.28`	`Hati`	`oh`
`16:43.34`	`Alevice_Work`	`JademusSreg, habvent tried. Likely they do, at least if you got veterancy behaviour`
`16:43.40`	`vjeux`	`because everything else is being overriden`
`16:43.41`	`Hati`	`'fucked' up your XML data?`
`16:43.52`	`JademusSreg`	`I mean without veterancy, also.`
`16:44.19`	`Alevice_Work`	`i ought to try`
`16:44.26`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`16:44.53`	`Hati`	`what is overridden vjeux?`
`16:44.57`	`Hati`	`they all look the same?`
`16:45.20`	`vjeux`	`that's strange`
`16:45.27`	`vjeux`	`sec`
`16:46.25`	`vjeux`	`<CActorUnit id="TDTowerA1" parent="PhotonCannon" /> <CActorUnit id="TDTowerB1" parent="SporeCrawler" />`
`16:46.33`	`vjeux`	`with just that, they do not show up`
`16:47.03`	`Hati`	`but with <Model ?`
`16:47.16`	`vjeux`	`yeah`
`16:47.16`	`Hati`	`<Model value="PhotonCannon"/>`
`16:47.32`	`Hati`	`the reason is because they don't define it theirselves`
`16:47.34`	`Alevice_Work`	`doesnt that kill the point of parenting? save for spell animas and the like?`
`16:47.36`	`Hati`	`they use ##id## for it`
`16:47.46`	`vjeux`	`<CActorUnit id="TDTowerA1" parent="GenericUnitStandard"> <Parent value="PhotonCannon" /> </CActorUnit>`
`16:47.49`	`vjeux`	`however this works`
`16:47.52`	`Hati`	`your id is TDTowerA1`
`16:47.58`	`Hati`	`so hes looking for Model TDTowerA1`
`16:47.59`	`Alevice_Work`	`nniice`
`16:48.04`	`vjeux`	`oh I see`
`16:48.09`	`Hati`	`because of ##id##`
`16:48.13`	`vjeux`	`<CModel id="TDTowerA1" parent="PhotonCannon" />`
`16:48.19`	`Hati`	`could do`
`16:48.21`	`vjeux`	`got that`
`16:49.47`	`Hati`	`i think <CActorUnit id="TDTowerA1 parent="PhotonCannon"/> will work too, if you have <CModel id="TDTowerA1" parent="PhotonCannon"/>`
`16:50.01`	`Alevice_Work`	`it doesnt`
`16:50.04`	`Alevice_Work`	`i have tried that before`
`16:50.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`no luck`
`16:50.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-173-174-no35.tbcn.telia.com)`
`16:50.55`	`Repo`	`10mapster-td: 03vjeux * r11 / (10 files in 3 directories): Various things`
`16:51.08`	`vjeux`	`I've updated the mapster td`
`16:51.11`	`vjeux`	`if you want to try`
`16:51.17`	`vjeux`	`I don't understand what's going on there`
`16:52.45`	`Hati`	`ActorData.xml seems kinda confusing :P`
`16:52.50`	`Hati`	`Blizzard commented alot there`
`16:52.53`	`vjeux`	`yeah`
`16:53.07`	`vjeux`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:53.10`	`vjeux`	`this is fucked up`
`16:53.15`	`vjeux`	`they put strings in there`
`16:53.25`	`Hati`	`well`
`16:53.39`	`Hati`	`Send seems powerful`
`16:53.43`	`Hati`	`you can Swapmodels with it`
`16:53.44`	`Hati`	`etc.`
`16:54.27`	`monoframe`	`Blizzard employee: "What do we do with ActorData", staff manager: "Leave it be, we're not supposed to change it.", Blizzard employee: "But I want some new animations...Ultralisk burrowing doesn't work." staff manager: "I said...LEAVE...IT...BE"`
`16:54.59`	`vjeux`	`well, even if that's powerful ... you have xml files, raw strings are not the way to do it!`
`16:56.03`	`vjeux`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:56.07`	`Alevice_Work`	`what raw strings?`
`16:56.13`	`vjeux`	`also, why the hell is there ProtossBuild in there`
`16:56.29`	`vjeux`	`an ability linked inside an actor sound -_-`
`16:56.30`	`Hati`	`where?`
`16:56.46`	`vjeux`	`<On Terms="Abil.ProtossBuild.BuiltStart" Send="Create"/>`
`16:56.54`	`Hati`	`yea`
`16:56.57`	`Alevice_Work`	`well, it is meant to be played when the evevent stated in term occur`
`16:57.00`	`vjeux`	`I mean ... in ProtossBuild there's no reference to that actor`
`16:57.02`	`Hati`	`if you start it it createst something`
`16:57.12`	`Hati`	`there don't have to be`
`16:57.16`	`Hati`	`there's alot of this stuff`
`16:57.18`	`Alevice_Work`	`so whenever a unit catss Abil.ProtosBuild with any unit, that sound is played`
`16:57.22`	`vjeux`	`well, that's lame`
`16:57.31`	`vjeux`	`it's hard to track down all the dependencied`
`16:57.31`	`Alevice_Work`	`i found it very useful actually`
`16:57.32`	`Hati`	`On terms as far as i understand are like triggers`
`16:57.35`	`vjeux`	`dependencies`
`16:57.42`	`Alevice_Work`	`well, you get used to it`
`16:57.46`	`Hati`	`if it happens do smth`
`16:57.54`	`Alevice_Work`	`it makes snses immo`
`16:57.54`	`monoframe`	`vjuex, it's hard with separate xml files...won't be so with Data Editor at hand`
`16:57.55`	`Hati`	`like a Behavior being enabled`
`16:58.04`	`Hati`	`or a unit created`
`16:58.14`	`Alevice_Work`	`if you need special sounds to be played when a guy catss psi strom, you dont need to track down all untis catsing it`
`16:58.22`	`Alevice_Work`	`only defint an actorsound that plays is`
`16:58.37`	`Hati`	`<On Terms="ActorCreation; ValidateUnit ZerglingUpgraded" Send="ModelSwap ZerglingUpgrade"/>`
`16:58.37`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:58.42`	`Hati`	`ie.`
`16:58.58`	`vjeux`	`well, I would like a reference in the ability`
`16:59.01`	`vjeux`	`that would be cleaner :p`
`16:59.11`	`Alevice_Work`	`in the abildata?`
`16:59.14`	`vjeux`	`yeah`
`16:59.15`	`Hati`	`but would it still be so customizable?`
`16:59.19`	`Alevice_Work`	`that wouldnt sperate presentation from logic`
`16:59.52`	`vjeux`	`having "code" inside xml is really strange`
`16:59.54`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/maps/t3sync-pathing-info/ by grum`
`16:59.54`	`Hati`	`but preparing GE for ActorData seems to be a mess`
`17:00.15`	`Alevice_Work`	`it would be nice if we had actoreffect or smth more general purpose, but it makes sense`
`17:00.26`	`Alevice_Work`	`there is not much code, only certain events defined`
`17:00.31`	`vjeux`	`they made a lot of clean xml files`
`17:00.45`	`Alevice_Work`	`actor data is robust as fuck`
`17:00.46`	`Hati`	`and then they come up with ActorData.xml`
`17:00.48`	`vjeux`	`and there in actordata.xml it's a real mess`
`17:01.08`	`Hati`	`you could write in Blizzard forums :P why it is so messy`
`17:01.17`	`art[]`	`lol, the sc2 special edition does come with a WoW pet`
`17:01.21`	`art[]`	`i called it`
`17:01.21`	`Alevice_Work`	`yeah, cerrtain structures are bizzarr, I garee. but the evenets and such code are intended to have more felixbility with model animations and shit`
`17:01.34`	`Hati`	`yup`
`17:01.47`	`Hati`	`they said - highly customizable - there you go`
`17:01.48`	`Alevice_Work`	`I like that I dont need to define an unflexible spell animation in the model anymore`
`17:02.07`	`Alevice_Work`	`and that i dont have to have jass code to fancy up a spell`
`17:02.10`	`Alevice_Work`	`:P`
`17:02.16`	`Alevice_Work`	`visually i mean`
`17:02.21`	`Hati`	`but still`
`17:02.26`	`vjeux`	`I mean, they use XML everywhere, why in there there are strings to be parsed ? :p`
`17:02.32`	`Hati`	`Behavior.*.On does not to be fired on Load`
`17:02.35`	`vjeux`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:02.42`	`Hati`	`because they can.`
`17:02.59`	`Alevice_Work`	`any proposals for it?`
`17:03.58`	`Hati`	`uhm btw`
`17:03.59`	`vjeux`	`<Send> <Action id="AnimBracketStop" value="Burrow" /> <ConditionArray id="AbilMorph.*.Finish" /> <ConditionArray id="MorphTo" value="Baneling" /> ...`
`17:04.13`	`Hati`	`are we supposed to add valid arguments for attributes in wiki?`
`17:04.24`	`vjeux`	`would be great`
`17:04.52`	`Hati`	`vjeux`
`17:04.55`	`Hati`	`where you found this?`
`17:04.58`	`Alevice_Work`	`doesnt seem to be any fucking cleaner :P`
`17:05.04`	`vjeux`	`well, it's xml`
`17:05.06`	`vjeux`	`not clean`
`17:05.22`	`vjeux`	`but coherent with the rest of the files`
`17:05.33`	`Hati`	`or you just wrote it by yourself?`
`17:05.37`	`vjeux`	`yes`
`17:05.40`	`Hati`	`ah k ._.`
`17:05.46`	`Alevice_Work`	`I can see what you mean. But overall it doesn't really imprve the way it murks that much. I dont see you complaying about target filders :P`
`17:06.10`	`Alevice_Work`	`*works not murks`
`17:06.11`	`Alevice_Work`	`:P`
`17:06.12`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`17:06.22`	`Hati`	`valid arguments simply as text?`
`17:06.39`	`vjeux`	`the main issue I see is there isn't any link in the ability, models, ... files`
`17:06.48`	`vjeux`	`they just put random references there`
`17:06.56`	`Hati`	`facerolling`
`17:06.57`	`vjeux`	`I would like something like`
`17:07.25`	`vjeux`	`<Model id="Zergling"> <Actor id="Zergling" /> </Model>`
`17:07.46`	`vjeux`	`this way we know Zergling actor, and only Zergling actor is able to reference the Zergling model`
`17:07.58`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`17:08.01`	`vjeux`	`and not actor referencing any model/ability they want`
`17:08.03`	`Hati`	`might be hardcoded somewhere`
`17:08.07`	`Hati`	`like ##id##`
`17:08.16`	`vjeux`	`also ##id##`
`17:08.17`	`Alevice_Work`	`check core.mod actordata`
`17:08.18`	`vjeux`	`wtf`
`17:08.26`	`Hati`	`<On Terms="Upgrade.CentrificalHooks.Add" Send="SetWalkAnimMoveSpeed 3"/>`
`17:08.29`	`vjeux`	`they use $parent`
`17:08.33`	`vjeux`	`why not $id ...`
`17:08.40`	`Hati`	`but like said - you can access alot of things through it`
`17:08.50`	`Alevice_Work`	`it is <Actor id="Zergling"> <Model id="Zergling" /> </Actor>`
`17:09.25`	`Alevice_Work`	`well, more like <actor default="1"><model value="##id##"</actor>`
`17:09.54`	`Alevice_Work`	`I wish actually that units referneced to a given acotr explicitely, tho`
`17:09.59`	`vjeux`	`yeah`
`17:10.05`	`Hati`	`wtb manual from blizzard xD`
`17:10.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`even core.mod unit data doesnt address actors anywaher`
`17:10.21`	`Alevice_Work`	`fucking typos`
`17:10.27`	`vjeux`	`also, I would like to do : <Unit id="mynewunit" parent="zergling" />`
`17:10.36`	`vjeux`	`the new unit is a zergling`
`17:10.54`	`Alevice_Work`	`it works already like that...`
`17:10.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Technetium (~a@adsl-69-208-14-198.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net)`
`17:10.56`	`vjeux`	`but no ... you have to add a new model, a new actor, modify bunch of actors, ... to make it work`
`17:11.02`	`Technetium`	`sup`
`17:11.07`	`Technetium`	`long time vjuex`
`17:11.09`	`vjeux`	`hey!`
`17:11.12`	`vjeux`	`indeed`
`17:11.13`	`Alevice_Work`	`if you parent straight from an unit, iirc, you dont need actors whatsoever`
`17:11.17`	`Technetium`	`I got your linkedin lol`
`17:11.26`	`Technetium`	`nic got me working on the terrain files`
`17:11.44`	`vjeux`	`for example the ultralisk need actors for the attack animation`
`17:11.50`	`Technetium`	`I've been hanging around blizzmods`
`17:11.56`	`Alevice_Work`	`oooh true, that :(`
`17:11.57`	`Technetium`	`but shit, back to work`
`17:11.59`	`vjeux`	`and you can't just parent the actor, you have to copy & paste it`
`17:12.12`	`Technetium`	`bbl`
`17:12.15`	`Alevice_Work`	`yeah. the big fucking issue is how actor inheritance works`
`17:12.20`	`Alevice_Work`	`IT DOESNT!`
`17:12.21`	`vjeux`	`Technetium: yeah ... gave my gmail contacts once to linked in, and it spammed it :(`
`17:12.21`	`Alevice_Work`	`:P`
`17:12.25`	`vjeux`	`yeah`
`17:12.30`	`Technetium`	`lol`
`17:12.39`	`vjeux`	`their parent system is fucked up`
`17:12.44`	`Alevice_Work`	`indeed.`
`17:12.47`	`vjeux`	`was really well done in WoW interface`
`17:13.09`	`vjeux`	`you did parent="something" and it magically inherited everything`
`17:13.38`	`Alevice_Work`	`aye`
`17:13.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster nicoli_s (~nsinkule@69.73.16.202)`
`17:13.47`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o nicoli_s] by ChanServ`
`17:13.55`	`vjeux`	`Technetium: Grum did a great job on the terrain format`
`17:13.55`	`vjeux`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/maps/`
`17:14.01`	`Technetium`	`yeah`
`17:14.08`	`Technetium`	`all our structs match up perfectly`
`17:14.28`	`Technetium`	`it's all a matter of piecing together the data now`
`17:14.37`	`Technetium`	`ok, I really have to go lol`
`17:14.41`	`Technetium`	`bbl`
`17:15.23`	`vjeux`	`ok`
`17:15.23`	`vjeux`	`cya`
`17:16.02`	`nicoli_s`	`oh nice, didnt know about the removed= whatever thing`
`17:16.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`interestingly, model parenting works great`
`17:16.11`	`nicoli_s`	`think we might be able to finally get around the damn patch thing`
`17:16.17`	`nicoli_s`	`model parenting?`
`17:16.21`	`vjeux`	`yup`
`17:16.24`	`Alevice_Work`	`well, i didbefore you all nerds, with heromod`
`17:16.28`	`vjeux`	`<Model parent="Some other Model" />`
`17:16.48`	`vjeux`	`I'm trying to make completly new units for the TD`
`17:16.55`	`nicoli_s`	`ahh`
`17:16.59`	`vjeux`	`but this is a real pain because of the actor thing! :(`
`17:17.04`	`Alevice_Work`	`heheh`
`17:17.05`	`Fisker`	`nicoli_s`
`17:17.08`	`Fisker`	`what patch thing?`
`17:17.17`	`Alevice_Work`	`well, just copy paste from the time being`
`17:17.23`	`vjeux`	`well, that sucks :p`
`17:17.26`	`Alevice_Work`	`at least unitl we find out about the quriks and shit`
`17:18.02`	`vjeux`	`going to make a post on the forum, maybe someone knows more about it`
`17:18.43`	`Alevice_Work`	`aye`
`17:18.54`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by xhatix`
`17:20.00`	`Fisker`	`finds nicoli_s`
`17:20.06`	`nicoli_s`	`fisker: why must you interject in random conversations for no reason?`
`17:20.21`	`Fisker`	`why oh why!`
`17:20.42`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by xhatix`
`17:21.16`	`Hati`	`is there a way to add something behind a attribute tag?`
`17:21.19`	`Hati`	`in wiki?`
`17:21.30`	`Alevice_Work`	`????`
`17:21.37`	`nicoli_s`	`dunno, youd have to ask ckknight when he returns`
`17:21.55`	`Hati`	`like index="Melee"`
`17:21.57`	`Hati`	`at the top`
`17:22.15`	`Hati`	`but below in the Children thingy`
`17:22.48`	`Hati`	`<Options> in weapondata doesn't look that nice now :x`
`17:24.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ckknight (~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight)`
`17:24.06`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`17:25.07`	`ckknight`	`should we have a new poll?`
`17:28.11`	`vjeux`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/297-help-actor-parenting/`
`17:29.11`	`vjeux`	`Hati: did you manage to change the damage value?`
`17:30.31`	`vjeux`	`* bool OnlyFireWhileInAttackOrder - Blablabal`
`17:30.41`	`vjeux`	`you may use that Hati for the <Options>`
`17:33.21`	`vjeux`	`ckknight: possible to move the latest forums post on the right bar?`
`17:33.27`	`vjeux`	`would stimulate the forums`
`17:34.14`	`ckknight`	`yea, could be done, but it'd need to change due to smaller width`
`17:34.38`	`ckknight`	`so, yea`
`17:36.26`	`vjeux`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEebg_puDIs`
`17:37.30`	`Hati`	`re`
`17:37.41`	`Hati`	`sooo`
`17:38.07`	`Hati`	`vjeux: hmm?`
`17:38.20`	`vjeux`	`hmm about what? :P`
`17:38.39`	`Hati`	`[19:29:11] <@vjeux> Hati: did you manage to change the damage value?`
`17:38.39`	`Hati`	`[19:30:31] <@vjeux> * bool OnlyFireWhileInAttackOrder - Blablabal`
`17:38.39`	`Hati`	`[19:30:41] <@vjeux> you may use that Hati for the <Options>`
`17:38.45`	`Hati`	`which damagevalue?`
`17:38.52`	`Hati`	`of attacks?`
`17:39.28`	`vjeux`	`damage attacks`
`17:39.34`	`vjeux`	`hmm`
`17:39.41`	`vjeux`	`the number of hp removed by attacks :p`
`17:40.03`	`Hati`	`<Amount`
`17:40.13`	`Hati`	`<Amount value="int"/>`
`17:40.33`	`Hati`	`and in CEffectDamage`
`17:40.45`	`Hati`	`<CEffectDamage id="RoachU" parent="DU_WEAP_MISSILE">`
`17:40.45`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:40.46`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:40.46`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:40.46`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:41.04`	`vjeux`	`oh I see`
`17:41.09`	`vjeux`	`lame`
`17:41.10`	`Hati`	`but there's nothing like`
`17:41.12`	`Hati`	`16-17`
`17:41.14`	`Hati`	`16;7`
`17:41.15`	`Hati`	`16,17`
`17:41.18`	`Hati`	`tried all :P`
`17:41.32`	`Hati`	`or Amount index="0" value="16`
`17:41.38`	`Hati`	`Amount index="1" value="18`
`17:41.51`	`Hati`	`damage ranges properly have to be generated by Chance`
`17:42.10`	`Hati`	`currently (my guess)`
`17:43.29`	`vjeux`	`ok :p`
`17:43.35`	`monoframe`	`Hati, that's the missile unit, you won't define Roach's damage`
`17:43.38`	`monoframe`	`with it`
`17:43.40`	`vjeux`	`well, random values sucks anyway :P`
`17:43.54`	`Hati`	`no mono`
`17:43.57`	`monoframe`	`what`
`17:43.59`	`Hati`	`you define the damage with it`
`17:44.04`	`Hati`	`it is a damage-effect`
`17:44.15`	`monoframe`	`WAS I TRICKED BY THE MARAUDER MISSILE!?!`
`17:44.33`	`monoframe`	`SCREW YOU OBSERVERS!`
`17:44.43`	`vjeux`	`another weird thing from the xml xD`
`17:45.00`	`Hati`	`<CEffectDamage id="MarauderU" parent="DU_WEAP">`
`17:45.01`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.01`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.01`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.01`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.01`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.01`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.08`	`Hati`	`the parent can be 'anything'`
`17:45.11`	`monoframe`	`yes found it`
`17:45.12`	`monoframe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.12`	`monoframe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.12`	`monoframe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.12`	`monoframe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.12`	`monoframe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.12`	`monoframe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.13`	`monoframe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.22`	`Hati`	`16?`
`17:45.26`	`vjeux`	`Hati: can you write that down on the forum`
`17:45.31`	`monoframe`	`for my attachment mod`
`17:45.38`	`vjeux`	`maybe in the Various Findings topic`
`17:45.50`	`monoframe`	`well actually, observer-missile-attachment mod tbe`
`17:46.00`	`Hati`	`i edited yesterday a bit the EffectData.xml wiki`
`17:46.34`	`vjeux`	`write something on the forums to link what you added :)`
`17:46.45`	`vjeux`	`there's no recent changes in the wiki ;x`
`17:49.34`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by xhatix`
`17:49.48`	`Hati`	`also had a whole ability trackdown added`
`17:50.01`	`Hati`	`http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1937/`
`17:50.36`	`vjeux`	`sexy`
`17:51.22`	`nicoli_s`	`wow thats crazy how much data is needed for that one ability`
`17:51.30`	`vjeux`	`yeah`
`17:51.44`	`Hati`	`well there is still no actor in it`
`17:51.48`	`vjeux`	`xml is verbose!`
`17:51.51`	`Hati`	`like explosions etc.`
`17:51.52`	`vjeux`	`that's not a new thing :p`
`17:52.20`	`Hati`	`or the thor animation which happens if you use the spell`
`17:54.03`	`Hati`	`if you look into Spawning larva from queen`
`17:54.15`	`Hati`	`it is mostly just bouncing between EffectDatas & BehaviorDatas`
`17:56.00`	`Hati`	`found new wallpaper o.o`
`17:56.05`	`Hati`	`http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/19/757/loading-xil.jpg`
`17:58.05`	`monoframe`	`Hope the loading screens will be more than just these static look-on Planets and star constelations in the final game s:`
`17:58.24`	`nicoli_s`	`finally!`
`17:58.26`	`Fisker`	`i like it :(`
`17:58.34`	`Hati`	`animated ones?`
`17:58.35`	`nicoli_s`	`got the object data saving correctly :)`
`17:58.59`	`nicoli_s`	`the whole time i couldnt figure out my problem, was forgetting to save the type property of points, so there were no start locations :P`
`17:59.09`	`monoframe`	`Hati, you know how there were others loading screens, text-story featured ones in the original StarCraft?`
`18:00.04`	`Hati`	`hmm a bit`
`18:00.14`	`monoframe`	`They're backgrounds were more than just "oh look another planet being evaporated by Protoss' deathray quadmachines"`
`18:00.27`	`monoframe`	`Like deserts, Command Bases`
`18:02.05`	`monoframe`	`Anyone know if we can use text strings in the "Loading" window layout?`
`18:05.11`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/maps/t3fluff-doodad/ by grum`
`18:09.50`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/maps/t3hard-tile/ by grum`
`18:10.25`	`Hati`	`On Terms="Upgrade.zerglingattackspeed.Add" Target="::PortraitGameSelf" Send="SetTintColor '5,5,5 RGB1'"`
`18:10.29`	`Hati`	`RGB1 ?`
`18:16.48`	`Hati`	`hmm interesting`
`18:20.23`	`Hati`	`if a unit has a behavior which Send 'Create Baneling' they are 1 Unit, with 2 models :o`
`18:20.26`	`Hati`	`if you can now offset it`
`18:21.07`	`Hati`	`ehm vjeux:`
`18:21.19`	`Hati`	`i think i know how you can 'copy' a actor`
`18:21.31`	`Alevice_Work`	`Hati, explain`
`18:21.35`	`Hati`	`instead of using parent`
`18:21.44`	`Hati`	`you do 1 <On Terms`
`18:22.04`	`Hati`	`<On Terms="CreateActor" Send="ModelSwap -InsertUnitYouWant-"/>`
`18:22.17`	`Alevice_Work`	`does it do attack animations and stuff?`
`18:22.32`	`Hati`	`it just swaps the model with the InsertUnitYouWant one`
`18:22.36`	`Hati`	`just did it with Zergling`
`18:22.44`	`Hati`	`if burrowing he swaps his model for a Baneling`
`18:22.49`	`Hati`	`so its a zerg in baneling costume`
`18:22.55`	`Hati`	`if he dies he explodes`
`18:22.59`	`Hati`	`attack = baneling attack anim`
`18:23.01`	`Hati`	`etc.`
`18:23.25`	`Hati`	`so it just takes the model`
`18:24.11`	`Hati`	`trying with zealot`
`18:24.44`	`Hati`	`yea`
`18:24.48`	`Hati`	`copy's attack animation etc.`
`18:24.58`	`Hati`	`but you have to apply weapon by yourself`
`18:28.58`	`nicoli_s`	`ahh so thats for swapping out models based on certain effects?`
`18:29.43`	`monoframe`	`More like Conditions`
`18:30.06`	`nicoli_s`	`yeah thats what i meant, do we have an enum of possible values to Terms?`
`18:30.17`	`Hati`	`well`
`18:30.20`	`Hati`	`it is mostly like Links`
`18:30.43`	`Hati`	`ie Abil.AbilityID.Start Abil.AbilityID.Finish`
`18:31.03`	`Hati`	`ie Abil.AbilityID.Start Abil.AbilityID.Stop*`
`18:31.11`	`Hati`	`Finish is for morph`
`18:31.26`	`Hati`	`or Behavior.BehaviorID.On - if the Behavior is active`
`18:31.35`	`Alevice_Work`	`yep`
`18:31.42`	`nicoli_s`	`have you seen examples like that? or just guessing`
`18:31.56`	`Alevice_Work`	`check the actordata.xml`
`18:31.58`	`Hati`	`ActorData.xml`
`18:31.59`	`Hati`	`tested`
`18:32.04`	`Alevice_Work`	`tehre are toons of cases where it is used`
`18:32.08`	`nicoli_s`	`very cool`
`18:32.13`	`Hati`	`changing some of the Send values`
`18:32.24`	`Alevice_Work`	`mind you, i still have trouble getting custom powersource behaviours to display correctly`
`18:32.52`	`Alevice_Work`	`the powergrid radius display i mean`
`18:33.00`	`Hati`	`hmm`
`18:33.20`	`Hati`	`how far you are with it?`
`18:33.45`	`Hati`	`and by powersource you mean Psi-Matrix ?`
`18:34.11`	`Alevice_Work`	`it displays a non tinted grid, but it does it always not just on seletcion. it aint anumated either`
`18:34.24`	`Alevice_Work`	`yeah, the power field.`
`18:34.38`	`Alevice_Work`	`they are called powersources in the behaviour data`
`18:35.59`	`Fisker`	`i'm bored`
`18:36.12`	`Alevice_Work`	`i wanna get back home :(`
`18:37.07`	`Hati`	`Alevice`
`18:37.13`	`Hati`	`do you have set a CActorPower ?`
`18:38.18`	`Hati`	`<VisualArray value="PowerVisual"/>`
`18:38.26`	`Hati`	`<CActorSplat id="PowerVisual">`
`18:38.26`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.26`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.26`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.26`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.27`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.27`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.28`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.28`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.29`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.29`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.40`	`Hati`	`like adding a Model to something`
`18:38.52`	`Alevice_Work`	`lemme see if i have the uopdated version on dropbox`
`18:39.32`	`Hati`	`<CModel id="PowerVisual" parent="UI">`
`18:39.32`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:39.32`	`Hati`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:39.39`	`Hati`	`seems like Host Subject is important for it`
`18:40.40`	`Alevice_Work`	`Seems I dont have the updated version.`
`18:40.44`	`Alevice_Work`	`what I have is this`
`18:41.07`	`Alevice_Work`	`<CActorPower id="Power">`
`18:41.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:41.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:41.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:41.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:41.09`	`Alevice_Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:41.22`	`Hati`	`yea`
`18:41.27`	`Hati`	`oh wait`
`18:42.18`	`Alevice_Work`	`?`
`18:43.00`	`Hati`	`nah haven't seen you modified`
`18:44.06`	`Alevice_Work`	`???`
`18:44.46`	`Hati`	`nah nothing`
`18:45.18`	`Alevice_Work`	`kk`
`18:50.48`	`nicoli_s`	`finally! new release of MWE is up`
`18:51.17`	`Alevice_Work`	`changelog?`
`18:51.46`	`nicoli_s`	`theres a bunch of stuff`
`18:51.57`	`nicoli_s`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/milkywayedit/files/14-rev56/ has a basic changelog`
`18:52.00`	`nicoli_s`	`but theres alot more than that`
`18:52.51`	`Corosus`	`fyi, http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/blizzard-loading-screens/ is missing loading-avernus.jpg`
`18:53.01`	`Alevice_Work`	`check next page`
`18:53.11`	`Corosus`	`aha!`
`18:53.14`	`Corosus`	`:D`
`18:53.19`	`Corosus`	`and my work is done!`
`18:53.34`	`nicoli_s`	`Corosus: your requests are all in the new MWRE`
`18:53.36`	`nicoli_s`	`MWE*`
`18:53.53`	`nicoli_s`	`easier object placement, properly indented generated xml, ability to change lang, and more`
`18:54.07`	`Corosus`	`niiiiceeeee`
`18:55.06`	`Sholdak`	`going to do an upload today?`
`18:55.19`	`Alevice_Work`	`chrashes if sc2 beta is not isntalled`
`18:55.33`	`Alevice_Work`	`you oguht to do a check and tell the user that ratehr than just crash`
`18:55.36`	`nicoli_s`	`already done`
`18:55.37`	`Alevice_Work`	`:P`
`18:55.43`	`Sholdak`	`oh?`
`18:55.49`	`Sholdak`	`time to start integrating my changes then`
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`18:56.17`	`Sholdak`	`did you see http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/773/texturedterrain.png btw?`
`18:56.27`	`nicoli_s`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/milkywayedit/files/14-rev56/ is the new one`
`18:56.32`	`nicoli_s`	`oh yes, very badass`
`18:56.41`	`Alevice_Work`	`holy cvraaap`
`18:56.43`	`Corosus`	`oh nice its uploaded :D`
`18:56.46`	`Alevice_Work`	`thats sweet s`
`18:56.55`	`Alevice_Work`	`Sholdak`
`18:59.01`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`the textures on that terrain look messed?`
`18:59.25`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`like the bit depth and res are crushed a bit, otherwise = nerd boner`
`18:59.51`	`Sholdak`	`the way i texture it isnt really correct`
`19:00.24`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`cool progress`
`19:00.37`	`nicoli_s`	`isnt the texture as simple as just finding which of the texture masks have values at a certain pixel and then blending in all the textures based on how much color is in the mask?`
`19:00.54`	`nicoli_s`	`i mean im sure its probably alot more complicated than that, just trying to get a handle on it`
`19:01.01`	`Sholdak`	`yes pretty much`
`19:01.12`	`Sholdak`	`i mean each texture is 1024x1024`
`19:01.16`	`Corosus`	`hmm`
`19:01.19`	`Sholdak`	`and i baisically squish them into 64x64`
`19:01.40`	`Sholdak`	`and create one big texture for the entire thing`
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`19:02.18`	`Bantas`	`Hello`
`19:02.19`	`Sholdak`	`the real way to do it is real multitexturing, etc`
`19:02.31`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`right`
`19:02.40`	`Corosus`	`am i supposed to put the editor in the game dir? im not seeing a path to change in the settings xml and its crashin`
`19:02.44`	`Sholdak`	`but i don't know pixel shaders enough to easily do that`
`19:03.05`	`Sholdak`	`esp since there's a variable number of possible textures, etc`
`19:03.06`	`nicoli_s`	`corosus: there is a setting for the gamepath`
`19:03.09`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`do you need pixel shaders what if you just have it procomposite it using some image library`
`19:03.10`	`Corosus`	`basepath?`
`19:03.11`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`like imagemagick`
`19:03.13`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`or something`
`19:03.25`	`Sholdak`	`well i precomposite it right now`
`19:03.27`	`nicoli_s`	`if you hover Corosus, it has a tooltip telling you example values`
`19:03.28`	`HeliosDoubleSix`	`oh I guess you want to I future manipulate the seperate layers`
`19:03.29`	`Sholdak`	`and no, you dont`
`19:04.12`	`Sholdak`	`the way i do it right now though is too slow to make realtime changes`
`19:04.26`	`davidcramer`	`nicoli_s: added a MapInfo parser last night and Nibbits now imports custom load screens :)`
`19:04.37`	`nicoli_s`	`yah i read up and saw it`
`19:04.55`	`nicoli_s`	`im done with replays personally, after finding out that bullshit about build orders i gave up\`
`19:05.10`	`davidcramer`	`:/`
`19:05.23`	`davidcramer`	`ya i want to slightly clean up my replay stuff (add in winner, teams, maybe apm) but otherwise i dont care`
`19:05.42`	`nicoli_s`	`yah none of those are too difficult once you get in event parsing`
`19:05.50`	`davidcramer`	`ya`
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`19:13.10`	`monoframe`	`What is .svn-base?`
`19:13.22`	`davidcramer`	`a file for svn`
`19:13.49`	`monoframe`	`And svn is?`
`19:14.05`	`ckknight`	`~lmgtfy`
`19:14.06`	`purl`	`[lmgtfy] http://lmgtfy.com/`
`19:14.23`	`ckknight`	`specifically`
`19:14.27`	`ckknight`	`~lmgtfy svn`
`19:14.28`	`purl`	`ACTION thinks you should look here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=svn`
`19:15.34`	`nicoli_s`	`svn is a source control system`
`19:16.08`	`monoframe`	`And what does it do in Base.SC2Data?`
`19:16.29`	`Corosus`	`mean to not be there my guess :P`
`19:16.44`	`Corosus`	`those damn folders get everywhere`
`19:17.43`	`ckknight`	`not a fan of svn myself`
`19:17.46`	`ckknight`	`I'm a git or hg fan`
`19:18.23`	`nicoli_s`	`yes, ckknight loves earing mercury, he said it himself`
`19:18.26`	`nicoli_s`	`thats why hes so crazy\`
`19:18.43`	`ckknight`	`did you know that the average salmon has as much mercury as a rectal thermometer?`
`19:18.48`	`ckknight`	`would you eat a rectal thermometer?`
`19:18.49`	`ckknight`	`I know I would`
`19:18.52`	`nicoli_s`	`lol`
`19:18.57`	`ckknight`	`mmm... mercury, the most delicious of the transient metals`
`19:19.07`	`nicoli_s`	`why wont you kiss me down there! you drink sweet tea!`
`19:19.31`	`nicoli_s`	`thank you ckknight, i would not have expected anyone else to know that hilarious sealab reference`
`19:21.26`	`Sholdak`	`nicoli_s: dont see your changed on svn`
`19:21.29`	`Sholdak`	`sure it committed fine?`
`19:21.59`	`Sholdak`	`changes*`
`19:22.14`	`nicoli_s`	`oh yeah my bad, forgot it didnt like me committing lapin.exe`
`19:22.47`	`nicoli_s`	`ok committed`
`19:22.49`	`Repo`	`10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r57 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (12 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines)`
`19:22.50`	`Zoxc`	`what didn't like that?`
`19:22.51`	`Repo`	`lots of new stuff`
`19:22.52`	`Repo`	`added galaxy error checking with lapin.exe`
`19:22.54`	`Repo`	`added setting for lang so other lang people can use it`
`19:22.55`	`Repo`	`reworked objects editing so it used property grid`
`19:22.59`	`nicoli_s`	`svn wouldnt let me commit an exe`
`19:23.05`	`Zoxc`	`ha`
`19:23.12`	`Zoxc`	`why not?`
`19:23.24`	`nicoli_s`	`prob because of the sc2apster repo hooks`
`19:31.10`	`Hati`	`nintendo 3ds ?`
`19:31.19`	`Hati`	`someone heard of it?`
`19:33.04`	`nicoli_s`	`i have`
`19:33.12`	`nicoli_s`	`so Corosus, were you ever able to get the editor working?`
`19:33.30`	`Corosus`	`is slightly distracted at the moment, but will be back to that shorty :P`
`19:33.34`	`nicoli_s`	`mmk\`
`19:33.36`	`Corosus`	`lol`
`19:33.39`	`Corosus`	`shortly*`
`19:33.43`	`nicoli_s`	`i just wanna make sure someone other than me can run it :P`
`19:33.48`	`nicoli_s`	`the ultimate test of software :)`
`19:39.06`	`Grum`	`nicoli_s; already a map editor? :p`
`19:39.58`	`nicoli_s`	`Grum: we had a map editor a month ago :)`
`19:40.09`	`Grum`	`a terrain editor!`
`19:40.11`	`Grum`	`and texture`
`19:40.12`	`Grum`	`and doodad!`
`19:40.27`	`nicoli_s`	`it just started as a small personal project, and then all of a sudden sholdak appeared out of nowhere and transformed it into the awesome piece of work it is now`
`19:40.53`	`Sholdak`	`hmm, when i use the PlaceUnit thing, it seems to place 2 red dots`
`19:40.55`	`Sholdak`	`on the map`
`19:41.15`	`nicoli_s`	`when you right click?`
`19:41.22`	`Sholdak`	`left click`
`19:42.00`	`nicoli_s`	`hmmm, im only seeing 1 dot, and 1 new object entry`
`19:42.13`	`nicoli_s`	`are the 2 dots like right next to each other?`
`19:42.38`	`Corosus`	`yay it loaded without crashing! 'unsuported xml tag: cost' though`
`19:42.41`	`Sholdak`	`no the 2nd dot is like 100 pixels above`
`19:42.45`	`Sholdak`	`and a little to the left`
`19:42.46`	`Corosus`	`got the config right`
`19:42.48`	`Ackis`	`linked in another chan by DWSR: http://www.break.com/game-trailers/game/starcraft-2/starcraft-2-beta-breakup`
`19:42.50`	`Sholdak`	`i get only 1 object entry`
`19:42.52`	`Sholdak`	`but 2 dots`
`19:43.07`	`nicoli_s`	`thats really weird sholdak, i dont get that at all`
`19:43.34`	`nicoli_s`	`does it happen on all maps?`
`19:44.29`	`Sholdak`	`hmm, not getting it anymore`
`19:44.31`	`Sholdak`	`after restarting`
`19:44.35`	`Sholdak`	`maybe i didnt have a unit selected`
`19:44.42`	`Sholdak`	`it uses the last selected unit right`
`19:45.41`	`gregv21`	`i cant get the GE to open a map`
`19:46.15`	`gregv21`	`it says it can't find the euUS.SC2Data file`
`19:46.43`	`nicoli_s`	`gregv21: newest version?`
`19:46.58`	`nicoli_s`	`sholdak: yeah the last one or just nothing if you havent selected one`
`19:47.08`	`gregv21`	`ya`
`19:47.21`	`gregv21`	`56`
`19:47.22`	`Sholdak`	`hmm, ok`
`19:47.28`	`Sholdak`	`ill see if i can reproduce it`
`19:47.40`	`nicoli_s`	`gregv21: you need to edit the settings beforey ou load a map`
`19:47.53`	`nicoli_s`	`to get the paths right, and you need to edit the language if you arent us`
`19:48.03`	`Corosus`	`yeah i had that issue, set basepath to your starcraft 2 ROOT folder, and path to base.sc2data itself`
`19:48.21`	`nicoli_s`	`yeah ill be removing that with the next patch, no need for both of those settings`
`19:48.54`	`nicoli_s`	`brb starbucks`
`19:51.08`	`gregv21`	`how do i do that`
`19:51.46`	`Sholdak`	`click on settings after starting the program`
`19:51.52`	`Sholdak`	`and change those values on the right`
`20:07.26`	`Fisker`	`i gotta pee Ackis`
`20:08.06`	`Bifuu`	`grats`
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`20:22.57`	`nicoli_s`	`heya lapin`
`20:22.57`	`Bifuu`	`i feel like i stopped being active in here =/`
`20:22.58`	`Corosus`	`nice job on the current release of mwe :D, objects file formatted flawlessly :D`
`20:23.04`	`nicoli_s`	`glad to hear it Corosus`
`20:23.21`	`nicoli_s`	`lapin_sc: got our release of our editor with yer syntax checker in it`
`20:24.24`	`vjeux`	`nicoli_s: did you release the new version of the editor?`
`20:24.37`	`lapin_sc`	`hi`
`20:24.47`	`lapin_sc`	`nicoli_s cool ill take a look`
`20:25.03`	`nicoli_s`	`yeah vjeux`
`20:25.09`	`vjeux`	`it needs a news!`
`20:25.29`	`nicoli_s`	`hmm, yeah it might be about time to start newsing it`
`20:26.08`	`vjeux`	`could you make a post on the forum explaining all the features + some screenies?`
`20:27.04`	`Corosus`	`only issue ive noticed isnt a biggie, small gui glitch, when you maximize or enlarge the GUI that effects the Map image to lose scale with the units/doodads etc onscreen`
`20:27.38`	`nicoli_s`	`oh shit, didnt notice that`
`20:27.42`	`Corosus`	`oh yeah, you should probably force it to keep scale`
`20:27.47`	`Corosus`	`as it stretched the actual image as well`
`20:28.32`	`nicoli_s`	`yeah just saw that bug Corosus, will get it fixed for next release`
`20:28.49`	`nicoli_s`	`and vjeux: i think im gonna work on bug fixes and stuff a bit before we do a news post`
`20:29.04`	`vjeux`	`ok`
`20:29.35`	`lapin_sc`	`nicoli_s it would be nice if there was a new option, so if you have no maps... or dont know wtf you are doing (like me) you can just get a new template to get a grasp of what the program can do`
`20:30.47`	`nicoli_s`	`well lapin_sc the issue with that is we cant create maps from scratch, you have to edit existing ones`
`20:31.15`	`vjeux`	`"Unsupported XML Tag: KillResource" when opening Contra`
`20:31.40`	`nicoli_s`	`mmk, will add that one vjeux`
`20:31.42`	`vjeux`	`and throws an error afterward`
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`20:31.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`hi`
`20:31.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`old pc`
`20:31.54`	`Iggyhopper`	`what is andro?`
`20:32.02`	`vjeux`	`andromedia?`
`20:32.05`	`nicoli_s`	`that is a unitdata field right vjeux?`
`20:32.06`	`Iggyhopper`	`meda`
`20:32.10`	`Iggyhopper`	`news`
`20:32.11`	`vjeux`	`-i`
`20:32.25`	`vjeux`	`some new galaxy precompiler`
`20:32.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`vjeux have you seen my turretdata.xml edit?`
`20:32.38`	`vjeux`	`nop`
`20:32.39`	`Iggyhopper`	`what does it do? generate a galaxy script?`
`20:32.54`	`vjeux`	`takes an enhanced galaxy script and generates a galaxy script of it`
`20:33.09`	`Iggyhopper`	`oh so how the heck would it do classes?`
`20:33.22`	`Iggyhopper`	`guess ill have to test it out, but have you, yet?`
`20:33.34`	`vjeux`	`well, you can simulate class with naming convention`
`20:33.44`	`Bifuu`	`i dunno but it has switch statements, so i love it`
`20:33.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`i see`
`20:33.52`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok ill test it out`
`20:33.56`	`Iggyhopper`	`k so vjeux http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/turret-data-xml/`
`20:34.00`	`Iggyhopper`	`check out my awesome`
`20:34.13`	`Iggyhopper`	`the syntax is a little Flex/regex`
`20:34.13`	`vjeux`	`nice`
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`20:34.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`o h wow just found an error, must edit`
`20:34.59`	`vjeux`	`we need color on the wiki`
`20:35.03`	`vjeux`	`it's a bit unredable`
`20:35.17`	`Iggyhopper`	`k for like what, value tpyes and then, what else? what did you have in mind?`
`20:35.33`	`nicoli_s`	`vjeux: KillResource is just like CostResource right?`
`20:35.36`	`vjeux`	`<YawIdleRate> should be in green!`
`20:35.42`	`vjeux`	`yep`
`20:35.49`	`Iggyhopper`	`it should?`
`20:35.56`	`Iggyhopper`	`whats green?`
`20:35.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`element?`
`20:35.59`	`vjeux`	`it's the number of resource you gain when killing a monster`
`20:36.06`	`vjeux`	`yeah, would help readability`
`20:36.10`	`vjeux`	`(but you can't change it :P)`
`20:36.11`	`Iggyhopper`	`and then attributes`
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`20:36.30`	`vjeux`	`ckknight: here?`
`20:38.28`	`vjeux`	`hmm, hasn't the 3d view be commited?`
`20:38.40`	`Corosus`	`i guess not :P`
`20:38.58`	`Grum`	`wtb modelviewer :(`
`20:39.08`	`Grum`	`i want to look at the different cliff models somehow`
`20:39.16`	`Grum`	`and no importing into 3dsmax is not an option`
`20:39.19`	`vjeux`	`:P`
`20:39.41`	`vjeux`	`http://oneclick-code.blogspot.com/`
`20:39.44`	`vjeux`	`isn't this working?`
`20:40.27`	`nicoli_s`	`vjeux: we have the flash model viewer but its not fast enough, im still working on the .net version`
`20:40.44`	`Grum`	`isnt there anything that doesnt require the unpack of the whole bloody mpq?`
`20:40.44`	`vjeux`	`nicoli_s: I'm talking about the terrain 3d`
`20:41.28`	`nicoli_s`	`oh, thats not even committed yet\`
`20:41.37`	`nicoli_s`	`and its in XNA so we'll have a branch for it\`
`20:41.38`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/turret-data-xml/ by Iggyhopper`
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`20:41.55`	`vjeux`	`ok`
`20:42.01`	`vjeux`	`Grum: need one too`
`20:43.23`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/turret-data-xml/ by Iggyhopper`
`20:43.39`	`Iggyhopper`	`thar we go fixed`
`20:43.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`a little syntax error`
`20:44.06`	`Bifuu`	`yay people finally editing and mproving the XMLs!`
`20:51.58`	`vjeux`	`yeah :)`
`20:52.21`	`Grum`	`that model viewer is made out of fail`
`20:52.27`	`Iggyhopper`	`it doesnt work yet`
`20:52.31`	`Grum`	`it demands the textue to be the same as the modelname`
`20:52.36`	`Grum`	`WHICH IT ISNT AS IT SAYS IN THE MODEL! ><`
`20:52.55`	`Iggyhopper`	`the andromeda thing wont work for me`
`20:53.13`	`Grum`	`http://oneclick-code.blogspot.com/ <-- brokenish`
`20:53.25`	`Grum`	`is it me or cant it be too hard ? ;p`
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`22:36.42`	`davidcramer`	`youtube fail :(`
`22:36.44`	`Repo`	`New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/opt-in-to-the-curse-newsletter/`
`22:36.47`	`davidcramer`	`doesnt curse support videos?`
`22:37.36`	`a228zip`	`What's your youtube account vjeux ?`
`22:37.40`	`vjeux`	`vjeux`
`22:37.50`	`a228zip`	`http://www.youtube.com/user/vjeux =p`
`22:37.50`	`vjeux`	`Sixen: wtf is that news :(`
`22:38.19`	`davidcramer`	`quote fail`
`22:38.31`	`nicoli_s`	`lol yeah thats def not how you do quotes :P`
`22:38.31`	`davidcramer`	`Sixen: who are you btw? :)`
`22:38.41`	`nicoli_s`	`sixen is our cm for sc2mapster and diablofans`
`22:38.45`	`davidcramer`	`ah`
`22:38.52`	`nicoli_s`	`and a noob to boot :P`
`22:39.02`	`davidcramer`	`David didn't join Curse was that right?`
`22:39.03`	`davidcramer`	`(diablofans)`
`22:39.31`	`ckknight`	`davidcramer: where are you posting a youtube video?`
`22:39.33`	`nicoli_s`	`dunno`
`22:39.34`	`Sixen`	`Yeah...`
`22:39.39`	`Sixen`	`Vjeux, Doran made me =\|`
`22:39.48`	`davidcramer`	`ckknight: hm?`
`22:39.50`	`davidcramer`	`im not vjeux was`
`22:40.02`	`davidcramer`	`but Curse used to support vids, just wasnt sure if you guys dropped that, otherwise why not up there :D`
`22:41.52`	`vjeux`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SFSRsquDa8`
`22:41.52`	`ckknight`	`we dropped that`
`22:41.55`	`vjeux`	`will be up there`
`22:41.55`	`ckknight`	`no one used it`
`22:41.58`	`ckknight`	`so no real point`
`22:42.03`	`ckknight`	`also was a huge burden on our end`
`22:46.01`	`vjeux`	`ckknight: is the post this news in xxx hours working?`
`22:46.18`	`ckknight`	`I'm not sure, tbh`
`22:46.23`	`ckknight`	`it should, but it didn't on april 1st`
`22:48.11`	`vjeux`	`ok`
`22:48.28`	`vjeux`	`have 2 seconds to add <<floatright>> on the wiki?`
`22:50.52`	`vjeux`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SFSRsquDa8`
`22:50.52`	`vjeux`	`there is a rough preview`
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`22:53.06`	`nicoli_s`	`lol yeah that map deff looks a little bugged :P`
`22:53.33`	`davidcramer`	`ya looks odd`
`22:53.44`	`vjeux`	`I really need curse to buy me new computer, can't even fraps in low quality :x`
`22:54.06`	`davidcramer`	`:(`
`22:54.41`	`a228zip`	`Pylon isn't in center, yet the unit go into the center`
`22:54.42`	`a228zip`	`Or`
`22:54.51`	`a228zip`	`They can target the towers from the center`
`22:54.58`	`a228zip`	`And that's why they went there`
`22:55.04`	`a228zip`	`Gotta ask the author`
`22:55.08`	`vjeux`	`well, it's completly fucked up imo`
`22:55.26`	`a228zip`	`Not worth a video indeed`
`22:56.09`	`a228zip`	`Wish that facebook beta key giveaway was also for europe =/`
`22:56.14`	`vjeux`	`a video is worth a news!`
`22:56.55`	`a228zip`	`It wasn't worth a video in the first place =p`
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`23:14.55`	`Iggyhopper`	`I need an arrow ability and weapon switch ability for each weapon.`
`23:17.31`	`nicoli_s`	`sholdak: have you fixed the issue with the unhandled Cost element in behaviordata? if not i was gonan do it rq`
`23:19.22`	`Iggyhopper`	`Figuring out which Behavior to derive it from.`
`23:20.07`	`Iggyhopper`	`To make new buttons, I need button data and GameStrings right?`
`23:20.41`	`nicoli_s`	`yep`
`23:21.01`	`nicoli_s`	`yay fixed the cost unhandled stuff`
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`23:21.35`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Hey there guys`
`23:21.41`	`Iggyhopper`	`hey`
`23:21.44`	`nicoli_s`	`heya`
`23:21.47`	`vjeux`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:21.50`	`vjeux`	`I didn't see that!`
`23:21.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`bitches dont know bout my pylon`
`23:22.07`	`Dustin\|Work`	`lol`
`23:22.50`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Decided to hop onto the map making bandwagon to get a grasp of what's all going on here before they release the editor :)`
`23:23.04`	`nicoli_s`	`well glad to have you`
`23:23.14`	`nicoli_s`	`this is the place to be for that for sure :)`
`23:23.25`	`Iggyhopper`	`So how would i add buttons via GameStrings?`
`23:23.32`	`Iggyhopper`	`if i mod from GameData directory?`
`23:23.43`	`nicoli_s`	`Iggyhopper: you dont add buttons via gamestrings, just labels`
`23:23.50`	`nicoli_s`	`ButtonData.xml has the buttons`
`23:23.51`	`vjeux`	`ButtonsData.xml`
`23:23.52`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok how do i do that?`
`23:24.02`	`vjeux`	`just copy & paste an existing button :p`
`23:24.06`	`Iggyhopper`	`thats it?`
`23:24.11`	`vjeux`	`pretty much yeah`
`23:24.12`	`Iggyhopper`	`but i try to click it and nothing happens`
`23:24.23`	`vjeux`	`well, it has to be bound to an ability`
`23:24.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`i thought i did that to`
`23:24.32`	`Iggyhopper`	`laaaaame`
`23:25.24`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Damn I keep trying to edit the objects file in the s2ma but it keeps getting overwritten`
`23:25.35`	`nicoli_s`	`overwritten?`
`23:25.47`	`nicoli_s`	`also, what are you editing it with?`
`23:25.51`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Im using the sc2 mapster tut`
`23:26.09`	`nicoli_s`	`are you editing it in the Files folder?`
`23:26.12`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Open the map file with the mpq editor, extract the file, edit, save, reimport`
`23:26.16`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I tried both`
`23:26.24`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Unless there's another directory it has to be in`
`23:26.39`	`nicoli_s`	`nope, it should just import it in when you launch the bat`
`23:27.26`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Hmmm`
`23:27.36`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Cause Im trying to change the start unit`
`23:27.43`	`Dustin\|Work`	`But it doesnt save my changes anywhere`
`23:27.46`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ill try it again`
`23:27.51`	`nicoli_s`	`hmm`
`23:28.23`	`Bifuu`	`lol looks like that other TD used my colorizer too xD yay for making something useful`
`23:28.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`where do i find the names of the weapons?`
`23:28.33`	`Bifuu`	`i should really put in the suggested stuff....`
`23:28.43`	`nicoli_s`	`Iggyhopper: think thats in the gamestrings too`
`23:28.48`	`Iggyhopper`	`k`
`23:29.10`	`davidcramer`	`Bifuu: good job :)`
`23:29.43`	`Iggyhopper`	`omg here is gamestring.txt?`
`23:29.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`where*`
`23:29.58`	`Dustin\|Work`	`are you using the tutorial?`
`23:30.05`	`nicoli_s`	`one sec Iggyhopper`
`23:30.21`	`vjeux`	`ok ... the map is in fact less random when using the correct base 10000 folder :p`
`23:30.34`	`nicoli_s`	`LocalizedData\GameStrings.txt is the file`
`23:30.38`	`Iggyhopper`	`aha`
`23:30.46`	`nicoli_s`	`Mods\Liberty.SC2Mod\enus.SC2Data`
`23:30.49`	`nicoli_s`	`is the mpq`
`23:31.04`	`vjeux`	`it's too easy ... until the million adds zerglings comes in`
`23:31.18`	`nicoli_s`	`lol`
`23:31.23`	`vjeux`	`he basically merged my td with the micro defense`
`23:32.24`	`Iggyhopper`	`thx guys`
`23:32.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok now to work`
`23:33.39`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Tutorial/Files/`
`23:33.51`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Is the path for the imported files right`
`23:34.48`	`nicoli_s`	`yeah`
`23:34.54`	`nicoli_s`	`im not sure why yer changes arent taking`
`23:35.13`	`davidcramer`	`vjeux: you need more towers, slacker`
`23:35.34`	`vjeux`	`well, I was about to add more towers and more waves`
`23:35.39`	`davidcramer`	`uh huh ;)`
`23:35.42`	`vjeux`	`but was stuck with the actordata.xml shit`
`23:35.45`	`davidcramer`	`I know how you French people operate ;)`
`23:36.02`	`vjeux`	`and won't do anything until I figure out how that works`
`23:36.18`	`davidcramer`	`I'm going to make zeegtd when the editor comes out :D`
`23:36.23`	`vjeux`	`:)`
`23:37.54`	`vjeux`	`what time is it in the US?`
`23:38.11`	`nicoli_s`	`in PST its 6:39`
`23:38.29`	`Dustin\|Work`	`6:39 in Central Standard`
`23:38.35`	`vjeux`	`ok, 1k6 uniques so far ... we may hit the 2k again!`
`23:38.35`	`Dustin\|Work`	`PST is 4:38`
`23:39.13`	`Dustin\|Work`	`You guys come from WC3 mapping aswell?`
`23:39.38`	`a228zip`	`I do`
`23:39.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Hati (kvirc@dslb-088-074-139-165.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`23:39.43`	`nicoli_s`	`yep`
`23:39.50`	`vjeux`	`Started programming with wc3 mapping (about 10 years ago :P)`
`23:39.51`	`nicoli_s`	`whoops, cst i meant`
`23:39.53`	`a228zip`	`Hope the language will be better though.. JASS was terrible`
`23:40.01`	`davidcramer`	`Dustin\|Work: i pretend I do :D`
`23:40.05`	`nicoli_s`	`and yeah dustin, i was an admin at wc3campaigns.net for years`
`23:40.08`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ya, Jass and I have a Love hate relationship :P`
`23:40.10`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Og nice`
`23:40.19`	`Iggyhopper`	`do dds files i reference have to be sized right?`
`23:40.19`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I've been at Wc3Campaigns since like 2005`
`23:40.25`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Worked on the FPS Mod`
`23:40.27`	`Iggyhopper`	`i mean they can be square 1x1 or 128x128?`
`23:40.30`	`nicoli_s`	`nice, me too!`
`23:40.35`	`vjeux`	`Iggyhopper: yes`
`23:40.37`	`nicoli_s`	`i did a bunch of artwork for it`
`23:40.41`	`Dustin\|Work`	`TEC_Ghost is my nick over there`
`23:40.43`	`nicoli_s`	`though it never got used`
`23:40.51`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I was in charge of terrain`
`23:40.56`	`Iggyhopper`	`i asked two q's which one is yes to?`
`23:40.59`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Before I got into the coding hehe`
`23:41.09`	`davidcramer`	`Dustin\|Work: i made some bad maps that I pretend never existed, but I like to build cool websites for mappers haha`
`23:41.19`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I do both lol`
`23:41.23`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Web Dev is my career`
`23:41.37`	`Iggyhopper`	`i want to ref a dds 128x128, will it be sized down to fit as a button?`
`23:41.43`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I made a badass Turn Based Grid Based map for WC3`
`23:41.51`	`vjeux`	`http://forum.judgehype.com/judgehype/Editeurdecartes/questions-frequemment-worldedit-sujet_91013_1.htm`
`23:41.53`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Was thinking of re-making it for sc2`
`23:42.02`	`vjeux`	`made a FAQ for war3 ... back in 2004`
`23:42.04`	`nicoli_s`	`awesome, a bunch of people in here are web devs too`
`23:42.05`	`vjeux`	`was loong time ago`
`23:42.05`	`nicoli_s`	`like me :)`
`23:42.27`	`davidcramer`	`Dustin\|Work: ya im pumped to take my ideas i had and try em for sc2`
`23:43.09`	`Dustin\|Work`	`My first project is going to be a RTS/TPS`
`23:43.25`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Where it's normal SC2 melee, but other players can take control of the RTS peopls units`
`23:43.36`	`Dustin\|Work`	`and play them Third Person Shooter style`
`23:43.41`	`davidcramer`	`ah`
`23:43.44`	`davidcramer`	`ya thats a cool idea`
`23:43.46`	`nicoli_s`	`very cool idea`
`23:43.47`	`davidcramer`	`didnt think about doing savage/ns in sc2`
`23:43.51`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I think it'd be fun as fuck`
`23:43.59`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ya like that :D`
`23:44.09`	`davidcramer`	`im gonna do a tower/hero defense, to be original :D`
`23:44.12`	`nicoli_s`	`makes me wanna play star wars battlefront`
`23:44.21`	`davidcramer`	`boo`
`23:44.24`	`davidcramer`	`savage 2 is pretty good`
`23:44.50`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ya i love savage`
`23:45.02`	`Hati`	`uhm`
`23:45.05`	`Hati`	`how does Tint work?`
`23:45.15`	`Hati`	`Model color + RGB ?`
`23:45.43`	`vjeux`	`SetTintColor 0,0,255`
`23:45.46`	`vjeux`	`looks like it's rgb`
`23:45.56`	`Hati`	`yea but does it just override`
`23:46.03`	`vjeux`	`no idea`
`23:46.08`	`Hati`	`k`
`23:46.10`	`Hati`	`will try :P`
`23:47.15`	`Hati`	`yup`
`23:47.18`	`Hati`	`seems like just overrides`
`23:47.45`	`Dustin\|Work`	`OH`
`23:47.52`	`Dustin\|Work`	`The mother fucker goes in the XML folder`
`23:47.56`	`Hati`	`http://yfrog.com/2mscreenshot012gxj`
`23:48.15`	`nicoli_s`	`very cool hati`
`23:48.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ckknight (~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight)`
`23:48.18`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`23:48.19`	`Hati`	`or does this applies any other ideas?`
`23:48.47`	`Hati`	`50,50,50 were the values`
`23:48.56`	`Hati`	`which is near black, but a bit above it`
`23:49.22`	`vjeux`	`try 255,0,0`
`23:51.07`	`Hati`	`seems to`
`23:51.14`	`Hati`	`but still some other effect is present`
`23:51.18`	`Hati`	`shadows etc.`
`23:51.47`	`Hati`	`with right tint you could fake Dark Archon :P`
`23:51.52`	`Hati`	`http://yfrog.com/joscreenshot013bj`
`23:53.34`	`Sixen`	`That's sick Hati..`
`23:53.41`	`Hati`	`that's easy`
`23:53.42`	`Hati`	`:P`
`23:53.46`	`Hati`	`1 line`
`23:53.47`	`Sixen`	`Could change the spells on it..`
`23:53.54`	`Sixen`	`Like, give it the Corruptor ability`
`23:54.05`	`Hati`	`you could possibily tint also on various effects`
`23:54.12`	`Hati`	`making radioactive guys green`
`23:54.25`	`a228zip`	`Can you change the RGB for projectiles ?`
`23:54.33`	`davidcramer`	`damnit you guys make me wanna pop open the map files`
`23:54.48`	`Hati`	`<3 ActorData`
`23:54.49`	`a228zip`	`I remember WC3 had an option so that the projectiles were to scale with the launcher`
`23:54.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`weith the source unit`
`23:55.01`	`Dustin\|Work`	`All projectiles are treated as "units" right?`
`23:55.02`	`Hati`	`a228zip: possible`
`23:55.06`	`vjeux`	`yes`
`23:55.11`	`Hati`	`while they are moving yea`
`23:55.15`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Badass`
`23:55.17`	`a228zip`	`What does that mean ?`
`23:55.32`	`Hati`	`you can do AoE effects (toggle ones, etc.) that destroy missiles`
`23:55.33`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Gonna help out so much with Attack Deteck Systems :P`
`23:55.40`	`Hati`	`like a shield`
`23:55.43`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Detect*`
`23:55.46`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Thats cool as fuck`
`23:55.48`	`a228zip`	`Interesting`
`23:56.00`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Means you can re-produce the Mothership TimeRift ability`
`23:56.12`	`vjeux`	`Dustin\|Work: you can do many things just with the xml data`
`23:56.26`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Can't wait to get my hands on the full editor`
`23:56.28`	`vjeux`	`no need to code abilities with jass(or galaxy)`
`23:56.30`	`a228zip`	`I just hope there will things to control the turret in the galaxy`
`23:56.38`	`a228zip`	`be things*`
`23:56.43`	`Hati`	`turret?`
`23:56.48`	`Hati`	`what you mean?`
`23:56.56`	`a228zip`	`Well, like the turret on the siege tank`
`23:57.03`	`Hati`	`you can 'control'`
`23:57.03`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Well with being able to attach units to other units`
`23:57.11`	`Dustin\|Work`	`That's pretty much a turret effect`
`23:57.22`	`Dustin\|Work`	`what'd be cool`
`23:57.24`	`a228zip`	`Yes, but that would require new models`
`23:57.35`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Is to attach a marine to an attackless Helion`
`23:57.44`	`Dustin\|Work`	`And have each unit owned by different people`
`23:57.58`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Thatd be fun`
`23:57.58`	`Hati`	`the helion flame thrower is build-in model`
`23:58.01`	`Hati`	`it's in the model`
`23:58.06`	`Hati`	`not attached`
`23:58.09`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ya`
`23:58.16`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Im just saying :P`
`23:58.23`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Put a marine on that bitch`
`23:58.31`	`a228zip`	`Well, since you can attack on the move`
`23:58.46`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Has anyone attached a unit to a unit yet`
`23:58.55`	`a228zip`	`I could create a dummy unit and make the guy with the turret attack it`
`23:59.13`	`a228zip`	`Is there something that allows a unit to be unselectable ?`
`23:59.28`	`Alevice_Work2`	`attributes :)`
`23:59.30`	`vjeux`	`yes`
`23:59.40`	`a228zip`	`Is in the unit data ?`
`23:59.43`	`a228zip`	`or an ability ?`
`23:59.45`	`Alevice_Work2`	`+ctrl f "unselectable"`
`23:59.47`	`vjeux`	`<FlagArray index="Uncommandable" value="1"/> <FlagArray index="Unselectable" value="1"/> <FlagArray index="Untargetable" value="1"/> <FlagArray index="Uncursorable" value="1"/> <FlagArray index="Unradarable" value="1"/>`
`23:59.52`	`Alevice_Work2`	`I think broodling escort is a good base`
`23:59.55`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Do we have a lost of all the Unit Data paramters?`

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