| 00:00.42 | Zoxc | yes, struct N { N *prev; N *next; } |
| 00:01.33 | Remy | what that is possible? |
| 00:01.39 | Zoxc | yes |
| 00:02.22 | Remy | okay.. so you can refer to yourself as a struct? |
| 00:03.24 | nicoli_s | Witchsong: regularly in what context? |
| 00:03.37 | Witchsong | Game models. |
| 00:03.45 | Witchsong | Is there any usual limit? |
| 00:04.09 | nicoli_s | i dont remember there being one in wow or wc3, but dunno if anyone tried to push it |
| 00:05.10 | Witchsong | M'kay. Just trying to find the link between geosets and materials. But I found a block that maybe could contain that info. |
| 00:05.48 | Remy | I'm going to add for loops now |
| 00:06.52 | Remy | so statement to intialize |
| 00:06.52 | Remy | expr as a condition |
| 00:06.52 | Remy | stmt to go to the next iteration |
| 00:06.52 | Remy | and abody |
| 00:06.52 | Remy | right? |
| 00:09.26 | nicoli_s | sure why not :P |
| 00:13.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767564554&sid=5000 |
| 00:14.29 | Witchsong | What is "teamglow", is that the same as team colors? |
| 00:14.36 | Witchsong | (A material named that) |
| 00:14.54 | nicoli_s | its the team color applied to a glow effect id imagine |
| 00:15.00 | HP-snus | teamglow as in wc3 perhaps |
| 00:15.04 | HP-snus | or? |
| 00:15.16 | Witchsong | How was teamglow in WC3? |
| 00:15.23 | HP-snus | dont hit me, I just read teamglow and have no idea of what you said before that :D |
| 00:15.31 | HP-snus | teamglow was a part of the model on the heroes |
| 00:15.40 | HP-snus | so you had red, blue etc glow under their feet |
| 00:15.48 | Witchsong | Ah |
| 00:16.07 | HP-snus | and yeah, in wc3 it matched team color |
| 00:16.45 | Witchsong | Looking at the Zealot model, it seems the teamglow material is for the blades. |
| 00:16.56 | Witchsong | As it uses Glow_Blade_Grey.dds etc. |
| 00:17.33 | nicoli_s | yah, the way team color works is it takes the alpha channel of the diffuse texture, and its filled with color of that opacity |
| 00:18.42 | Zeerti | What is the team glow local for a marine? |
| 00:18.50 | Zeerti | I couldn't find it. |
| 00:19.31 | Witchsong | But is the color on Zealot blades the same as your team color? |
| 00:20.55 | nicoli_s | pretty sure Witchsong |
| 00:26.54 | Zeerti | is the location of your personal "Symbol" located in the XML docs? |
| 00:27.04 | nicoli_s | huh? |
| 00:27.21 | Zeerti | Okay you know how when the game launches each player can have a custom symbol on their units? |
| 00:27.34 | Zeerti | Like a terran symbol or a dot or w/e |
| 00:28.36 | HP-snus | ( Witchsong ): But is the color on Zealot blades the same as your team color? yeah |
| 00:28.54 | Zeerti | HP do you know how to answer my question? |
| 00:28.59 | HP-snus | what |
| 00:29.16 | Zeerti | you know how you can unlock different symbols that appear on all your units? |
| 00:29.32 | Zeerti | is the location on where they appear in the editor/XML docs? |
| 00:29.58 | HP-snus | there are different symbols? |
| 00:30.04 | Zeerti | right now there aren't |
| 00:30.14 | Zeerti | but on game launch there will be 50+ |
| 00:30.25 | Zeerti | Right now there are only 3 |
| 00:30.34 | HP-snus | source :p |
| 00:30.43 | Zeerti | Go to sc2 |
| 00:30.46 | Zeerti | play a game as terran |
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| 00:30.57 | Zeerti | You'll see the terran symbol on every single unit |
| 00:31.02 | Zeerti | and building |
| 00:31.06 | Zeerti | you can change that symbol |
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| 00:31.17 | Sixen | Yes, teamglow is the player color |
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| 00:31.45 | Zeerti | does anyone know where the documentation for the Symbols are? |
| 00:31.45 | HP-snus | well the symbols are most likely dds files |
| 00:31.49 | Zeerti | right. |
| 00:31.52 | HP-snus | and i have no idea on wether or not they are set through xml or not |
| 00:32.00 | Zeerti | me neither. |
| 00:32.01 | HP-snus | Bifuu|Work is the one who is mapping xmls for the moment afaik |
| 00:32.11 | Zeerti | afaik? |
| 00:32.20 | HP-snus | as far as i know |
| 00:32.25 | Zeerti | ah |
| 00:33.50 | Remy | ehm |
| 00:33.53 | Remy | when you pass an array |
| 00:34.10 | Remy | like int foo(int[]* someArray) |
| 00:34.22 | Remy | you don't specify the size of the array right |
| 00:34.53 | Remy | so it's really a different type decleration then in a declaration |
| 00:35.17 | Remy | o nevermind |
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| 00:37.44 | Remy | ckknight I see from the api documentation that array parameters are declared as such: FillArray(int[c_arrayLength]* array) so the array length is passed |
| 00:37.46 | Remy | that's pretty weird |
| 00:37.55 | Remy | okay well fine |
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| 00:56.14 | nicoli_s | sweet! got the unit positioning down |
| 00:56.23 | Sixen | orly? Nice. |
| 00:56.35 | Sixen | Also nic, not sure if you saw, but SCLegacy put a post up about us. |
| 00:56.46 | Zeerti | aweomse stuff :D |
| 00:56.48 | nicoli_s | yah bunch of people did |
| 00:59.52 | nicoli_s | shit |
| 01:01.07 | Sixen | =] |
| 01:01.26 | Zeerti | I'm so fucking bored at work |
| 01:01.37 | Nexuapex | So, indulguing someone who hasn't really followed the early-modding scene: you need an altered executable to load custom maps? |
| 01:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | No. |
| 01:02.03 | Sixen | Just the launcher. |
| 01:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | You've never needed to alter game executables to mod any blizzard game |
| 01:02.11 | Sixen | But if you grab MilkyWayEdit, it'll load everything for you. |
| 01:02.15 | Nexuapex | What does the launcher do? |
| 01:02.27 | Nexuapex | I'm approaching this from a developer's standpoint. |
| 01:02.47 | Nexuapex | Why is the launcher needed? |
| 01:02.57 | Sixen | Because you cannot run sinlge player/custom maps. |
| 01:03.12 | Nexuapex | Right, so what does the launcher do that replacing files can't? |
| 01:03.12 | Sixen | The launcher changes something in the running process to run the game in singleplayer mode. |
| 01:03.24 | Nexuapex | Oh, so it's a memory change, not an executable change. |
| 01:03.30 | Sixen | Right |
| 01:20.04 | HP-snus | ( ScytheBlade1 ): You've never needed to alter game executables to mod any blizzard game < diablo 1 and 2 required this i think |
| 01:20.16 | HP-snus | well |
| 01:20.26 | HP-snus | i know you needed in order to make something interestin anyway |
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| 01:21.27 | HP-snus | potions for example had to be changed in the executable in d2 |
| 01:21.28 | IH | lol im at school! |
| 01:21.36 | igg | hehehe |
| 01:22.58 | igg | d2? |
| 01:23.05 | igg | i can do checksum of d2 files |
| 01:23.11 | igg | in my simple program lol i made |
| 01:25.09 | Sixen | orly |
| 01:25.38 | HP-snus | pffft |
| 01:25.41 | HP-snus | your program sucks |
| 01:25.46 | igg | yep |
| 01:25.51 | HP-snus | i put mine on and it starts doing fucked up stuff in eternal loops |
| 01:25.51 | igg | thats theONLY thing it does |
| 01:25.54 | igg | lol |
| 01:26.20 | igg | dude i should put my proijects (or link them via /Alias) on my server, haha |
| 01:26.27 | HP-snus | then the university sysadmins whine on me for not using experimental servers (I used the ones that holds mail, userdb etc for thousands of students) |
| 01:26.39 | HP-snus | needless to say |
| 01:26.42 | HP-snus | I learned nothing! |
| 01:27.03 | igg | Also check thsi out. |
| 01:27.04 | igg | http://www.itl.nist.gov/div897/sqg/dads/ |
| 01:27.09 | igg | Epic |
| 01:27.36 | HP-snus | sweet |
| 01:27.38 | HP-snus | it has bubble sort |
| 01:27.53 | HP-snus | where were you w links when I needed you the most? ;p |
| 01:28.25 | Nexuapex | Bidirectional bubble sort. Also known as: cocktail shaker sort. |
| 01:28.26 | HP-snus | bookmarked, thanks |
| 01:28.36 | Nexuapex | Totally using that in a comment somewhere. |
| 01:28.49 | HP-snus | Nexuapex ? |
| 01:28.53 | igg | oh hey |
| 01:28.53 | igg | http://www.itl.nist.gov/div897/sqg/dads/HTML/lotkaslaw.html |
| 01:28.58 | Nexuapex | ? |
| 01:29.03 | HP-snus | ( Nexuapex ): Totally using that in a comment somewhere. |
| 01:29.14 | Nexuapex | Re: "Bidirectional bubble sort. Also known as: cocktail shaker sort." |
| 01:29.21 | HP-snus | ah |
| 01:45.12 | Bifuu|Work | Guess whose home! This guy! |
| 01:45.43 | Bifuu | yay Bifuu! >.> |
| 01:46.20 | Zeerti | wooot haha |
| 01:49.23 | Sixen | =] |
| 01:53.36 | Bifuu | Anything interesting happen while i was out? |
| 01:55.44 | Sixen | Not really :P |
| 01:56.25 | *** part/#sc2mapster Nexuapex (~c6b2a702@gateway/web/freenode/x-axkvvsvyerrdoxhj) |
| 01:56.29 | Bifuu | lame |
| 01:56.40 | Sixen | ;p |
| 01:56.43 | Sixen | sclegacy made a newspost aboutus |
| 01:56.47 | Bifuu | Channel looks fuller atleast haha |
| 01:56.55 | Bifuu | that happened before i left =P |
| 01:57.09 | Sixen | =p |
| 02:00.25 | Bifuu | So where i work alot of high school kids work there too |
| 02:00.33 | Sixen | =o |
| 02:00.47 | Bifuu | and today one of the girls that works there asked me to go to her prom with her... and im like "uhhhhhhhh lol?" |
| 02:00.58 | Sixen | Roflmao? |
| 02:01.00 | Sixen | How old are you? |
| 02:01.05 | Bifuu | 19 |
| 02:01.08 | Sixen | :P |
| 02:01.11 | Sixen | How old is she? |
| 02:01.18 | Zeerti | 12 |
| 02:01.20 | Bifuu | 17 or 18 |
| 02:01.21 | Zeerti | ;) |
| 02:01.28 | Sixen | Prom night, bro. Go get some. |
| 02:01.39 | Bifuu | yeah... if you saw her |
| 02:01.47 | Bifuu | plus im too cheap to pay for another tux rental |
| 02:01.55 | Sixen | Bahahaha |
| 02:02.19 | Bifuu | i didnt even take a date with me to my own prom, i went solo and man, thatw as the right choice if you know what i mean |
| 02:02.36 | Sixen | No doubt |
| 02:02.39 | Sixen | I made that mistake twice |
| 02:02.40 | Sixen | :( |
| 02:02.57 | Bifuu | suckerrr |
| 02:03.38 | Zeerti | went to prom with my good friend haha |
| 02:03.45 | Bifuu | Not being single kinda sucks at times, like now for me, because at work there are alot of legal hotties, you just gatta check IDs lol |
| 02:04.15 | Zeerti | where do you work? |
| 02:04.19 | Bifuu | but i live in north carolina and my chick is in Puerto Rico so i guess i might beable to get away with some things haha |
| 02:04.27 | Zeerti | LOL! |
| 02:04.27 | Bifuu | Little Ceasars, its a pizza place |
| 02:04.37 | Zeerti | bifuu I know a slut out there that might appease to you :) |
| 02:04.38 | Zeerti | lol |
| 02:04.49 | Zeerti | never met her irl, but she did some bad things haha |
| 02:04.52 | Bifuu | oh i dont do sluts |
| 02:05.58 | Bifuu | wtb new mpq editor =/ im too lazy to keep manually finding mah files |
| 02:06.13 | Zeerti | it made me laugh when she wanted a legit relationship after she told me she likes to get drunk and blow people |
| 02:06.37 | Bifuu | haha |
| 02:06.42 | Bifuu | Where in nc is she? |
| 02:06.46 | Zeerti | Raleigh |
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| 02:06.52 | Zeerti | well 5 or so miles from it. |
| 02:07.16 | Bifuu | ah thats liek an hour from me |
| 02:07.31 | Bifuu | im in Fayettenam |
| 02:07.52 | Zeerti | Ah |
| 02:08.34 | Bifuu | Are there Terran units that merge together? |
| 02:08.41 | Zeerti | no |
| 02:08.56 | Zeerti | bunkers sorta do |
| 02:09.18 | Bifuu | i guess BLizz likes to cover all their bases |
| 02:09.36 | Bifuu | Cause theres alerts for Warp training for terran and Zerg too |
| 02:10.37 | Zeerti | alerts? |
| 02:11.19 | Bifuu | like uhhh |
| 02:11.36 | Bifuu | When you research something and it goes "research complete" |
| 02:11.39 | Bifuu | thats an alert |
| 02:11.42 | Zeerti | ohhh |
| 02:11.52 | Zeerti | so then what the hell would terran neeed a warp alert? |
| 02:12.01 | Bifuu | dunno |
| 02:12.21 | Bifuu | its like Protoss and Zerg have calldown alerts aswell |
| 02:21.33 | Zeerti | what is a calldown alert? |
| 02:21.54 | Zeerti | and the only reason i can think of why they have it is if your Zerg and then your ally leaves and he is terran. |
| 02:22.21 | Bifuu | Calldown is like Mules or Nukes, things falling from the sky |
| 02:22.33 | Zeerti | thats what I was assuming |
| 02:26.06 | Bifuu | cookie for who ever figures out where this path is |
| 02:26.07 | Bifuu | Alert/Text/ResourceExhausted_HighYieldMineral_Terr |
| 02:26.57 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/alert-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
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| 02:28.59 | Bifuu | i found it i get to keep the cookie |
| 02:29.36 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/alert-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 02:34.48 | FrozenFirebat | hmm from the forum chatter, looks like reset of b.net2.0 might occur tonight... |
| 02:35.00 | FrozenFirebat | either that or blizzard's b.net2.0 is about to explode |
| 02:35.56 | Bifuu | i vot for the later |
| 02:36.07 | Bifuu | i also vote i cant type |
| 02:36.17 | FrozenFirebat | vote for pedro! |
| 02:38.45 | Bifuu | ok AttachMethodData.xml is really confusing |
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| 02:57.11 | Zoxc | some Galaxy benchmarks: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/175/galaxybench1.png |
| 02:59.22 | Bifuu | Long line good or bad? lol |
| 02:59.28 | lapin_sc | bad |
| 02:59.36 | Bifuu | thought so |
| 02:59.42 | Bifuu | Time to execute i assume? |
| 02:59.45 | lapin_sc | Zoxc you're missing units :P |
| 03:00.17 | Sixen | At least it's better than JASS |
| 03:00.17 | Sixen | ;) |
| 03:00.20 | Bifuu | How can you test this already? O.o |
| 03:00.44 | lapin_sc | and ruby! |
| 03:00.58 | lapin_sc | ruby the turtle! |
| 03:01.24 | lapin_sc | ruby is a turtle and galaxy a snail ;-) |
| 03:04.12 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/button-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
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| 03:05.21 | Zoxc | dunno how to setup units in Excel =P |
| 03:06.39 | lapin_sc | heh |
| 03:06.48 | Astazha | evening |
| 03:07.20 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 03:07.47 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 03:07.56 | Bifuu | god damn it link right |
| 03:09.11 | Bifuu | why isnt this page linking on http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/ the path is correct |
| 03:09.42 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 03:09.48 | Bifuu | i even copy and paste and it doesnt |
| 03:09.50 | Bifuu | i give up |
| 03:10.02 | Bifuu | ohw ait it works, just it stays red |
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| 03:11.19 | Corbo | hai |
| 03:11.54 | Bifuu | hola |
| 03:12.37 | Corbo | Hola, que tal? Como han estado? |
| 03:12.55 | Corbo | bet you didn't expect that one ;o |
| 03:14.16 | Bifuu | MUY CONSADO |
| 03:14.22 | Bifuu | i thinkt hats right |
| 03:14.31 | Corbo | cansado* |
| 03:14.35 | Bifuu | i dont know my girlfriend is spanish but i dont care apparently xD |
| 03:14.35 | Ingela- | muy bien |
| 03:14.40 | Ingela- | <-- knows the spanish! |
| 03:14.51 | Corbo | <--- spanish is native language |
| 03:14.54 | Bifuu | i had 2 years of it but yeah who remembers that pfft |
| 03:15.04 | Bifuu | well i guess you remember that then |
| 03:15.13 | Bifuu | if it counts i have spanish on rosetta stone |
| 03:15.39 | Corbo | what's that? |
| 03:15.54 | Bifuu | Software thast supposed to teach you languages |
| 03:16.12 | Corbo | oh? |
| 03:16.14 | Bifuu | its pretty good and works, i just dont use it like i should |
| 03:17.56 | Bifuu | its like "Cuatro Ninos!?" and shows a picture of 4 girls, a picture of 4 boys, a picture of like a car, and a picture of like an old guy on the beach. and your supposed to figure out what its talking about with out it ever translating it for you |
| 03:18.15 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-mesh-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 03:18.26 | Corbo | NEW KNOWLEDGE! |
| 03:18.35 | Bifuu | dang it, i keep forgetting to fix the caps |
| 03:18.44 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-mesh-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 03:18.56 | Bifuu | ive done 4 pages in the past hour or so |
| 03:19.09 | Bifuu | and like 5 pages this morning before i went to work |
| 03:19.31 | Bifuu | ok maybe not 5 |
| 03:19.32 | Bifuu | maybe 3 |
| 03:20.05 | Bifuu | <SpeechTag value="HappySpeech"/> |
| 03:20.09 | Bifuu | its happy! |
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| 03:21.28 | Tehwildcard | Yo |
| 03:21.28 | Bifuu | hmm interesting |
| 03:21.32 | ckknight | yo, Tehwildcard |
| 03:21.38 | Bifuu | i wonder if the galaxy editor talks to you |
| 03:21.49 | Bifuu | <Sound value="ModUtilityVoiceModUtilityVoice00005"/> |
| 03:22.03 | Tehwildcard | Been roaming the website, great work you guys are doing |
| 03:22.14 | Ingela- | so how long time is it until we se Curse Client with sc2 addition :D |
| 03:22.21 | Corbo | I doubt the editor will talk to you |
| 03:22.31 | Bifuu | Then whats mod utility O.o |
| 03:22.36 | Corbo | dunno |
| 03:22.39 | Corbo | but it'd be annoying. |
| 03:22.46 | Bifuu | im sure it would be toggleable |
| 03:22.56 | Bifuu | and customizable |
| 03:22.56 | Corbo | I'm sure it'd sux ;o |
| 03:23.00 | Bifuu | so i can make a pack |
| 03:23.09 | Bifuu | "YO BITCH YOU CANT PUT THAT THERE" |
| 03:23.34 | Ingela- | :D |
| 03:24.03 | Astazha | Has anyone used AIFilterPathable(unitgroup group, point inStart) ? |
| 03:24.11 | Corbo | ARE YOU RETARD? YOU CAN'T SHOOT OUT NUKES! |
| 03:24.37 | Bifuu | How would you even trigger that |
| 03:25.01 | Bifuu | the game cant read your mind! how will it know your looking to launch a nuke! =P |
| 03:27.14 | Corbo | sc2 is hax k |
| 03:31.02 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cursor-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 03:31.18 | Bifuu | such a huge document |
| 03:31.22 | Bifuu | </sarcasm> |
| 03:32.02 | Corbo | CURSOR DATA |
| 03:32.04 | Corbo | also |
| 03:32.07 | Corbo | did you do racedata? |
| 03:33.33 | Bifuu | yea |
| 03:33.43 | Ingela- | in before that labyrint with your mouse and then some girl starts screaming like hell |
| 03:33.46 | Ingela- | with sc2 map |
| 03:33.47 | Ingela- | :D |
| 03:33.54 | Bifuu | ive done every XML but UnitData, AchevementData, and ModelData |
| 03:34.10 | Bifuu | dont give people ideas now |
| 03:34.16 | Corbo | did you do both racedatas? |
| 03:34.17 | Corbo | ;o |
| 03:34.33 | Bifuu | both? theres only one xml for racedata |
| 03:34.53 | Corbo | ;o |
| 03:35.00 | Tehwildcard | Major 3mins of work contribution: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4155997/sc2/SC2Mapster.jpg you can thank me later |
| 03:35.03 | Bifuu | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/race-data-xml/ |
| 03:35.07 | Corbo | the one on core.sc2mod\base.sc2data is different. |
| 03:35.37 | Bifuu | ill look at it |
| 03:35.38 | Corbo | still racedata |
| 03:35.43 | Zoxc | is this any better? http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/175/galaxybench1.png =P |
| 03:35.45 | Corbo | but has different info |
| 03:35.49 | Corbo | than the normal one. |
| 03:36.00 | Corbo | or actually has NO info at all but the structure is different. |
| 03:36.03 | Corbo | I noticed it today |
| 03:36.55 | Bifuu | Ohh now it all makes sense on how this works |
| 03:37.18 | Bifuu | theres only 4 lines different |
| 03:37.23 | Bifuu | this is basically like |
| 03:37.44 | Bifuu | the blueprint |
| 03:38.02 | Bifuu | i guess its the game's way of some kind of OOP |
| 03:38.18 | Bifuu | What ever you dont define in the mod, it picks up from the core |
| 03:39.27 | Bifuu | i didnt know it was set up like this |
| 03:39.47 | Bifuu | all my documentations are all officially incomplete now lol |
| 03:40.35 | Ingela- | if sc2mapster is going to get huge it really needs a voting system and allowing you to see how many downloads on projects |
| 03:40.46 | Ingela- | last part should have been something since forever on wowace/curseforge/w/e though |
| 03:42.53 | Corbo | you can thank me now, bifuu :P |
| 03:43.26 | Sixen | Tehwildcard, that's nice. |
| 03:43.34 | Sixen | When'd you do that? |
| 03:43.37 | Bifuu | Thank you for making my life harder?! gaaaah |
| 03:43.45 | Tehwildcard | 10mins ago |
| 03:43.56 | Sixen | Did anyone ask or you just did it? :p |
| 03:44.02 | Tehwildcard | Was bored |
| 03:44.04 | Corbo | oh |
| 03:44.04 | Sixen | -[ |
| 03:44.05 | Sixen | =]* |
| 03:44.07 | Corbo | that's a nice idea. |
| 03:44.13 | Ingela- | did you do the background Tehwildcard |
| 03:44.14 | Corbo | I can do SCfont ones. |
| 03:44.17 | Ingela- | or was that stolen somewhere |
| 03:44.24 | Corbo | like the letters in my tutorial banner, sixen. |
| 03:44.35 | Tehwildcard | Stolen, if I had time I could do a decent BG though |
| 03:45.07 | Ingela- | so you basicly copy pasted a bg, then typed SC mapster and milky way editor and then copy pasted the "II" and added a black thing around it |
| 03:45.29 | Ingela- | you didn't even take time to cut those II things good lol :D |
| 03:45.36 | Tehwildcard | That's why it was 3mins of work :P |
| 03:46.09 | Corbo | I'll make a good banner |
| 03:46.13 | Corbo | when I come back |
| 03:46.18 | Corbo | brb for now |
| 03:46.37 | Bifuu | Sixen! |
| 03:50.08 | Sixen | Yessir? |
| 03:50.18 | Sixen | That'd be cool Cobo :D |
| 03:50.24 | Bifuu | Corbo just made all my Documentation moot! =/ |
| 03:50.50 | Bifuu | yet slightly easier |
| 03:58.46 | Bifuu | Woot i can so be a blizzard dev |
| 03:58.47 | Bifuu | <!--this controls the 2 normal maps (for faking the waves) scrooling rate and direction--> |
| 03:58.51 | Bifuu | even they type like me |
| 04:02.27 | Bifuu | inc Repo spam while i tag some pages |
| 04:02.56 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/abil-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:03.20 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/alert-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:03.42 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/button-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:03.56 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:04.16 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-mesh-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:04.39 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/race-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:04.59 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/requirement-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:05.50 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/requirement-node-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:06.04 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/upgrade-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:06.54 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:06.54 | Bifuu | ok thats all for tagging, sorry for spam |
| 04:06.54 | Bifuu | Any further possible spam will be good spam xD |
| 04:13.43 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/achievement-term-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:15.22 | Sixen | Don't apologize :) |
| 04:16.33 | Jerub | anyone play zerg here? |
| 04:16.54 | Jerub | imagine you have a bunch of roaches, what unit do terrans build that fills you with fear? |
| 04:17.54 | Astazha | I do... let's see... |
| 04:18.01 | Sixen | tanks |
| 04:18.01 | Sixen | :p |
| 04:18.25 | Jerub | Sixen: sieges? |
| 04:18.33 | Astazha | tanks, guardians. Yes sieges |
| 04:18.34 | Sixen | I hate 'em. |
| 04:18.42 | Jerub | Sixen: interesting. |
| 04:18.49 | Astazha | but not so much the tanks, cuz you can just burrow and leave |
| 04:18.51 | Jerub | okay, might have to restructure my expendature. |
| 04:18.51 | lapin_sc | Jerub marauders |
| 04:18.54 | Bifuu | Marads > Roaches |
| 04:18.59 | Astazha | or burrow over and pop up next to the tank |
| 04:19.12 | Jerub | yeah, i hate the terran dearth of detectors :( |
| 04:19.19 | Astazha | gotta have those scans ready |
| 04:19.31 | Astazha | do terrans have a detector unit? besides towers? |
| 04:19.38 | Bifuu | Ravens |
| 04:19.42 | Astazha | ah |
| 04:20.08 | Zeerti | I hate work |
| 04:20.16 | Jerub | yeah, ravens. |
| 04:20.19 | Astazha | ravens would be exciting too maybe |
| 04:20.24 | Jerub | Zeerti: did i hear someone tell fibs about you being australian? |
| 04:20.35 | Astazha | detector + seeker = win? dunno |
| 04:20.35 | Jerub | i don't really understand ravens properly. |
| 04:20.42 | Jerub | do they have the old science vessel's emp? |
| 04:20.52 | Astazha | ghost has emp |
| 04:20.56 | Jerub | oooh, ghost. |
| 04:21.03 | Jerub | hm, i should actually build them then.. |
| 04:21.14 | Jerub | does EMP take out building shields too? |
| 04:21.23 | Astazha | I'm 95% sure it does |
| 04:21.52 | Astazha | I remember a shoutcast talking about how fail it was to not cast emp before nuke against a protoss base |
| 04:22.08 | Jerub | Astazha: heh, okay. |
| 04:22.16 | Jerub | i <3 protoss so much |
| 04:22.20 | Jerub | their bases are so squishy. |
| 04:22.37 | Jerub | and most protoss players don't place pylons well. |
| 04:22.39 | Astazha | when I cheat on Zerg Protoss is my mistress |
| 04:22.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Iggyhopper (~chatzilla@adsl-75-18-129-242.dsl.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:22.53 | Iggyhopper | hi |
| 04:22.57 | Jerub | Astazha: i <3 protoss because they're fun to destroy |
| 04:23.01 | Astazha | hey Iggy |
| 04:23.08 | Astazha | Jerub: noticed that after I responded ; ) |
| 04:23.18 | Jerub | i've turned up in a protoss base and hit 3 pylons to take out all their production and protection. |
| 04:23.22 | Tehwildcard | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4155997/sc2/sc2mapstertest2.png |
| 04:23.31 | Iggyhopper | k so how would i set up chatzilla to log me in and identify too? |
| 04:23.35 | Iggyhopper | or that not working? |
| 04:23.53 | Sixen | =] |
| 04:24.11 | Iggyhopper | o |
| 04:24.56 | Iggyhopper | ok |
| 04:25.02 | Iggyhopper | i set up a auto-perform |
| 04:25.02 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:25.04 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 04:25.08 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.17 | Iggyhopper | pw? thats not my password though |
| 04:25.21 | Iggyhopper | lolololololololol |
| 04:25.21 | Sixen | -- |
| 04:25.25 | Iggyhopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.33 | lapin_sc | emp = op :( |
| 04:25.34 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:25.45 | Iggyhopper | its emp, not EE EMM PEE |
| 04:25.50 | Jerub | otoh, i've played against protss players who have their bases structured so all the pylons are behind buildings and have many pylons avialable for power. |
| 04:26.10 | Iggyhopper | E.M.P. is overpowered. |
| 04:26.27 | Iggyhopper | It should be nerfed to do a percent of damage to energy. |
| 04:26.38 | Iggyhopper | like, 95% |
| 04:26.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Athryn (~46303711@gateway/web/freenode/x-oxibsryiahbmagae) |
| 04:27.24 | Iggyhopper | everything should also be an upgrade |
| 04:27.30 | Iggyhopper | like cuncussion |
| 04:27.30 | Astazha | I've always though emp was weird in that it's maximally useful against one race |
| 04:27.52 | Iggyhopper | Some abilites are like htat. |
| 04:27.56 | Iggyhopper | also spelling |
| 04:28.07 | Shirik | Iggyhopper: Zealots should be nerfed to do a % damage to health |
| 04:28.47 | lapin_sc | that would be weird |
| 04:28.56 | lapin_sc | those lings would be hard to kill |
| 04:29.01 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 04:29.07 | Iggyhopper | whats 95% of 1? |
| 04:29.08 | Shirik | It's about as logical as an EMP doing % damage to energy |
| 04:29.09 | Iggyhopper | 1! |
| 04:29.32 | Astazha | Well you could set it up to do 95% of max. |
| 04:29.35 | Iggyhopper | no its not shirik |
| 04:29.40 | Astazha | but why do you want the 5% so much? |
| 04:29.59 | Shirik | of max is more sensible |
| 04:30.17 | Iggyhopper | EMP should not erase a mothership of all its energy just like a sentry |
| 04:30.26 | lapin_sc | i think it should do something like that... where at the center its 100% and as you go away from the center it becomes %25 or something |
| 04:30.43 | Shirik | carriers should not carry fighters |
| 04:30.49 | Iggyhopper | yeah a radial decline of energy uh.. damage |
| 04:31.57 | Jerub | oh hey, do you guys know about the problems with 2v2 resource sharing? |
| 04:32.06 | lapin_sc | hmm no? |
| 04:32.19 | Jerub | i had a 2v2 where a partner dropped out with bad internet |
| 04:32.24 | Jerub | so i was controlling 2 terran bases |
| 04:32.26 | Shirik | the fact that you can't fricking type the number? |
| 04:32.30 | Astazha | Woah... Lapin. Just noticed your name. Thanks for all your work on the syntax validator. |
| 04:32.40 | Jerub | i could control his, i could spend his money |
| 04:32.50 | Shirik | Jerub: Welcome to SC2? |
| 04:32.54 | Jerub | but he couldnt' spend my money and i couldn't transfer it to him. |
| 04:32.58 | lapin_sc | Astazha np. im quite lazy since i got my sc2 account :P |
| 04:33.02 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:33.06 | Jerub | so when the opponents attacke dMY base first, i couldn't come back from it |
| 04:33.09 | Shirik | yeah |
| 04:33.18 | Jerub | because i wasn't manging my resources right |
| 04:33.25 | Jerub | (I had 3600 in my bank, 0 in his) |
| 04:33.32 | Astazha | haha. Could I beg for that multi-dim array thing? ; ) I can't validate my stuff 'cuz it fails there. I'm using the "edit carefully" debug method. |
| 04:33.38 | lapin_sc | Jerub ya its weird. and you dont know how much money he has hehe |
| 04:33.53 | Jerub | i had 5 barracks up with reactors and was going to marine the heck out of them, but i was out of money, while looking at a 3k+ bank balance. |
| 04:34.08 | lapin_sc | Astazha sure ill take a quick look right now |
| 04:34.15 | Astazha | Thank you sir. |
| 04:34.59 | Jerub | think it's worth bitching about on the forums? |
| 04:35.25 | Astazha | Jerub: only if you think they don't already know about it. |
| 04:35.28 | lapin_sc | persoanlly i dont really like the fact you can sahre money |
| 04:35.52 | lapin_sc | i wish you could reconnect to a game like in HoN |
| 04:36.09 | Jerub | lapin_sc: even if i could macro his base, that'd be fine |
| 04:36.23 | Jerub | but i had no idea about what the fuck was happening but he was my 'primary' base after mine fell. |
| 04:36.27 | Astazha | Sharing will make for interesting new strats: "you tech, I'll expand" |
| 04:36.37 | lapin_sc | Jerub oh weird |
| 04:36.49 | Jerub | i very nearly won too |
| 04:37.50 | nicoli_s | man, so many people in here now :) |
| 04:38.49 | Bifuu | lies |
| 04:39.52 | Bifuu | see you killed everyone nic gj |
| 04:39.53 | Iggyhopper | whois "lapin" |
| 04:40.10 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 04:40.10 | Astazha | Lapin wrote the galaxy syntax validator on darkblizz |
| 04:40.25 | Iggyhopper | Oh okay. |
| 04:40.35 | Iggyhopper | Wai-... what is the synatax validator? |
| 04:41.00 | Sixen | Nic, that's how we roll |
| 04:41.00 | Astazha | http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/ai-development/galaxy-syntax-validator/ |
| 04:41.00 | Sixen | ;) |
| 04:41.10 | Sixen | Hey aztasha, wrong one. |
| 04:41.16 | Astazha | oh? |
| 04:41.17 | Sixen | MilkyWay Precompiler by Remy ;) |
| 04:41.22 | nicoli_s | so im starting my map tonight |
| 04:41.31 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/milkyway-precompiler/ |
| 04:41.35 | Sixen | What map are you doing, nic? |
| 04:41.37 | Astazha | well I'm looking forward to that, but right now it chokes on negative value assignments |
| 04:41.41 | Sixen | Oh, =( |
| 04:41.49 | Bifuu | YOU MOMMA |
| 04:41.51 | Bifuu | had to sorry |
| 04:41.59 | Sixen | Speaking of which... |
| 04:42.04 | Sixen | Nice XML work Bif, coming along great :D |
| 04:42.15 | Bifuu | lies Corbo messed it up for me |
| 04:42.21 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:42.22 | Sixen | How so? |
| 04:42.47 | Bifuu | he was like |
| 04:43.01 | Bifuu | "hey lookt he XML in the core is different than the mod itself |
| 04:43.05 | Bifuu | so i go and look |
| 04:43.05 | nicoli_s | sixen: a wave testing thing, so you can tell the enemy what to build and attack you with |
| 04:43.07 | Iggyhopper | lololololo |
| 04:43.15 | Bifuu | Turns out thast where everything is called first >.< |
| 04:43.21 | Bifuu | all the defauts |
| 04:43.23 | Bifuu | all the parents |
| 04:43.26 | nicoli_s | so you can say: build 8 collosus and attack me, and ill see what i have to build to survive |
| 04:43.27 | Iggyhopper | Core is loaded first. |
| 04:43.36 | Iggyhopper | Then Liberty |
| 04:43.38 | Bifuu | i know, i just didnt think about looking there |
| 04:43.40 | Iggyhopper | then patches |
| 04:43.40 | lapin_sc | Astazha http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/ai-development/galaxy-syntax-validator/?action=dlattach;attach=450 try this |
| 04:43.46 | Iggyhopper | then LibertyMulti |
| 04:43.51 | Sixen | Ah, cool nic. |
| 04:43.56 | Sixen | I'm going to make a Cat n Mouse map. |
| 04:43.57 | Iggyhopper | because I swear, thats how it is |
| 04:44.02 | Iggyhopper | unless im a tird |
| 04:44.05 | Astazha | lapin: brb, checking now |
| 04:45.34 | Bifuu | im going to make..... its a secret =P |
| 04:45.47 | Iggyhopper | arg secrartet |
| 04:45.55 | Iggyhopper | aarrrrg grammmmmmmar |
| 04:46.43 | Bifuu | if you hate grammar like that, man you are ganna hate me |
| 04:47.28 | Iggyhopper | lol grammar |
| 04:47.30 | Iggyhopper | hold up |
| 04:47.54 | Astazha | Lapin: the file edit date on that is the same as 0.8, I think the rar still had the old binary in it. |
| 04:48.18 | lapin_sc | oh shit you are right hehe |
| 04:49.20 | lapin_sc | my bad. http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/ai-development/galaxy-syntax-validator/?action=dlattach;attach=451 |
| 04:49.26 | lapin_sc | should be... better this time :) |
| 04:49.44 | Sixen | Oh, hey lapin. |
| 04:51.03 | lapin_sc | hi Sixen |
| 04:52.13 | Iggyhopper | http://new.iggyhopper.dyndns.org/Public/AdvancedTweak.txt |
| 04:52.13 | ckknight | howdy, lapin_sc |
| 04:52.57 | Sixen | Wuzzat, Iggy? |
| 04:53.01 | Iggyhopper | grammar! |
| 04:53.27 | lapin_sc | sup ckknight |
| 04:54.10 | Iggyhopper | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexical_analysis |
| 04:54.40 | lapin_sc | Iggyhopper are you interested into that stuff? |
| 04:54.45 | Iggyhopper | yup |
| 04:54.56 | lapin_sc | you know lex / yacc? |
| 04:55.00 | Iggyhopper | ooo |
| 04:55.10 | Iggyhopper | probably not |
| 04:55.21 | Iggyhopper | i do C# stuff |
| 04:55.26 | Iggyhopper | so Grammatica |
| 04:55.30 | lapin_sc | i see. |
| 04:55.36 | Astazha | Lapin: It now chokes on 2 things that I can find so far. One is a access to the multi-dim array: |
| 04:55.37 | Astazha | int result=omOvermindMemory[OvermindPlayerIndex(player)][c_OM_InitializedIndexOffset]; |
| 04:55.47 | ckknight | Iggyhopper: played with Coco/R? |
| 04:55.57 | Astazha | the other is an array size definition with a [c_myconstant+1] as the size |
| 04:56.06 | Iggyhopper | 1. no 2. wtf is coco |
| 04:56.10 | lapin_sc | zoxc is working on a coco/r parser i believe. |
| 04:56.32 | Iggyhopper | o i already had a super good parser for Worms 4 mayhem. |
| 04:56.32 | ckknight | Coco/R is a .NET parsing library |
| 04:56.34 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r16 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (15 files in 3 directories): |
| 04:56.36 | Repo | added map display with ability to right click to add new units |
| 04:56.37 | Repo | included devil libs needed for tga dsplay |
| 04:56.42 | lapin_sc | Astazha that is quite possible. ill have to relax the rules to let that then. |
| 04:56.48 | Astazha | Lapin: but the array definition itself passes |
| 04:56.57 | Iggyhopper | wanted to port over to sc2 but due to time constraints, i made it into xml |
| 04:57.02 | Iggyhopper | for parsing easiness |
| 04:57.14 | lapin_sc | Astazha i dont really track the type of expressions yet so i limited the array size specifier to NUMBER or IDENTIFIER |
| 04:58.04 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/attach-method-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 04:58.32 | Iggyhopper | oooh i looked up coco |
| 04:58.38 | Iggyhopper | have to try it sometime |
| 04:58.51 | Iggyhopper | but the main thing is i know how to write language syntax def's |
| 04:58.55 | ckknight | I used to do a lot of parsing work |
| 04:58.58 | ckknight | when I worked on Boo |
| 04:59.00 | Iggyhopper | really |
| 04:59.03 | Iggyhopper | wow whats Boo? |
| 04:59.08 | Astazha | lapin: understood, and I suspect the problem in the array access is that i'm using functions to return the index |
| 04:59.17 | Iggyhopper | use a local? |
| 04:59.27 | Iggyhopper | local int i = getint() |
| 04:59.31 | Iggyhopper | array[i][i] |
| 04:59.35 | lapin_sc | ckknight i vaguely remember that language name |
| 05:00.02 | Astazha | Iggy: yeah, that would pass. And I suppose I could do the same for the constant+1 |
| 05:00.12 | Bifuu | i tab back in and read whats been going on and you guys give me a headache |
| 05:00.42 | Astazha | Well, I'm going to lay down for a little while. |
| 05:01.06 | nicoli_s | just uploaded rev16 of MWE, can view and place units |
| 05:01.37 | Bifuu | wewt |
| 05:01.44 | Astazha | Lapin: thanks for working on this. |
| 05:01.50 | Iggyhopper | view no way |
| 05:01.53 | Astazha | gnite for now, I'll be back on later I'm sure. |
| 05:02.05 | Bifuu | lata |
| 05:02.06 | Iggyhopper | omg have to dl now |
| 05:03.02 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/beam-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 05:03.12 | Bifuu | ^ best ever |
| 05:03.12 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sixen * r17 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor/Properties (2 files in 1 directory): Updated icon |
| 05:03.21 | Bifuu | lol |
| 05:03.27 | lapin_sc | Astazha that fix will require a bit more time. for now i must go to bed.. have to get up early tomorrow. |
| 05:03.30 | Bifuu | a whole revision for an icon |
| 05:03.31 | lapin_sc | ill let you know when i have a fix |
| 05:03.35 | Sixen | Rofl Bif |
| 05:03.37 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 05:03.39 | Sixen | ;) |
| 05:03.47 | Sixen | I have 2010, we're testing if it'll break it in 2008 |
| 05:03.58 | Bifuu | Sixen is like "Man i put effort into that thing its going it!" |
| 05:04.05 | Sixen | Why so hate? :( |
| 05:04.15 | Bifuu | no hate |
| 05:04.19 | Bifuu | just lolable =P |
| 05:04.33 | Bifuu | i mean did you look at BeamData.xml, thats roflable |
| 05:04.52 | Iggyhopper | nicoli_s hey is the latest rev dl'able? |
| 05:05.27 | Iggyhopper | oooo svn omg |
| 05:06.04 | Iggyhopper | have to go to bed in like 10min |
| 05:06.09 | Iggyhopper | min as in minerals |
| 05:06.27 | Bifuu | is it just me or is this backwards |
| 05:06.27 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.28 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.31 | Bifuu | wait |
| 05:06.35 | Iggyhopper | its the same |
| 05:06.36 | Bifuu | both are neg? |
| 05:06.40 | Bifuu | damn im blind |
| 05:06.40 | Iggyhopper | it has no direction yet |
| 05:06.52 | Iggyhopper | yes lol |
| 05:06.53 | Bifuu | coulda swore in Notepad the first one didnt have a neg |
| 05:07.06 | Bifuu | brb i need kool aid if im ganna keep doing this lol |
| 05:07.17 | Bifuu | Sixen: like that, thats lolable =P |
| 05:08.19 | Iggyhopper | TurtleSVN is pie. |
| 05:10.01 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r18 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor/bin/Debug/settings.txt: gnericized settings.txt |
| 05:10.56 | Iggyhopper | Hey what does DeVil.NET include? |
| 05:11.06 | Iggyhopper | what does it help you with, whats the lib contain? |
| 05:11.20 | Bifuu | TGA |
| 05:11.25 | Iggyhopper | o |
| 05:11.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Chrono^ (~Chrono@c83-255-33-133.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 05:11.39 | nicoli_s | its for most image formats |
| 05:11.43 | Iggyhopper | ok |
| 05:11.45 | nicoli_s | it does tga, png, dds, lots and lots |
| 05:12.16 | Iggyhopper | why does it lag a little when i click an object in the tree? |
| 05:12.25 | nicoli_s | i dunno, cuz its slow :P |
| 05:12.34 | Iggyhopper | becuz u suck socks |
| 05:12.38 | Iggyhopper | yes |
| 05:12.39 | nicoli_s | i have done zero benchamrking or performance tuning |
| 05:12.48 | nicoli_s | if you can fix it, do so please :) |
| 05:12.49 | Iggyhopper | well then thats good, you can improve then |
| 05:12.53 | Iggyhopper | or i |
| 05:12.55 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 05:12.56 | Bifuu | oh it does dds? think maybe you can add to MWE to add like a dds viewer so i dont have to reinstall photoshop? =D |
| 05:12.57 | Iggyhopper | sure |
| 05:13.07 | Iggyhopper | i do tons of javascript programming so i optimize stuff well |
| 05:13.28 | nicoli_s | heh, i do alot of js for a living |
| 05:13.42 | Iggyhopper | lol awesome |
| 05:13.55 | Iggyhopper | i make greasemonkey scripts, and one of them communicates with my server |
| 05:14.01 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 05:14.03 | Iggyhopper | i have like 1k users of that one |
| 05:14.08 | Iggyhopper | its awesome |
| 05:14.14 | nicoli_s | ive been wanting to play around with greasemonkey |
| 05:14.24 | nicoli_s | i met the jquery creator drunk as shit the other week :P |
| 05:14.34 | Iggyhopper | editor: u right click to change values? |
| 05:14.38 | Iggyhopper | looooooooool |
| 05:14.41 | nicoli_s | just single click for now |
| 05:14.54 | nicoli_s | gonna change it to double click or right click, havent decided |
| 05:15.01 | Iggyhopper | how to add new values? |
| 05:15.02 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 05:15.05 | Iggyhopper | not implemented yet? |
| 05:15.09 | nicoli_s | right click on the node that supports it |
| 05:15.15 | nicoli_s | units can have new stuff added |
| 05:15.23 | nicoli_s | and you can right click on the top objects and add new objects |
| 05:15.29 | nicoli_s | or add new objects via right clicking the map |
| 05:15.43 | Iggyhopper | not working for me |
| 05:15.48 | Iggyhopper | i see i see |
| 05:16.17 | nicoli_s | hmmm, weird |
| 05:16.25 | nicoli_s | are you right clicking an individual unit node? |
| 05:16.27 | Iggyhopper | yeah i cant add like, an attribute |
| 05:16.32 | Iggyhopper | yes |
| 05:16.55 | Iggyhopper | i can right click the + Objects node |
| 05:17.03 | Iggyhopper | but no unit noes |
| 05:17.12 | nicoli_s | hmm weird, i was just able to do it just fine |
| 05:17.20 | nicoli_s | added the hero flag to a probe |
| 05:17.24 | Iggyhopper | oo |
| 05:17.28 | Iggyhopper | ooooooo |
| 05:17.30 | Iggyhopper | okay |
| 05:17.43 | Iggyhopper | I meant under units in map, not game data |
| 05:18.06 | nicoli_s | ahh nah you have to do it via the game editor node |
| 05:18.26 | nicoli_s | the objects stuff links solely o the objects nodes |
| 05:18.55 | Iggyhopper | aw |
| 05:20.06 | Iggyhopper | oh crap you know what would be awesome? |
| 05:20.11 | nicoli_s | shoot |
| 05:20.31 | Iggyhopper | using unit icons on top of the minimap, and then when you hover near them they get bigger |
| 05:20.44 | Iggyhopper | i mean, to designate where they are |
| 05:21.34 | Iggyhopper | good start though |
| 05:21.53 | nicoli_s | yah soon ill be making a class for the map icons, so you can interact with them and stuff |
| 05:21.59 | Bifuu | i = drooling atm |
| 05:22.09 | nicoli_s | delete them, and for ones like points, tell a player to use it as its start position |
| 05:22.10 | Iggyhopper | I'll probably post a project for my modding tool on there too someday |
| 05:22.16 | Iggyhopper | on the site. |
| 05:22.25 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 05:22.37 | Iggyhopper | so I'll ask for some help from you guys when I'm ready. |
| 05:22.53 | nicoli_s | i would def like to play around with it, as i need to do some batch editing stuff for my map |
| 05:22.56 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sixen * r19 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor/MilkyWayEdit.ico: Icon file/test |
| 05:23.34 | Sixen | Iggy, go ahead. I'll approve it. |
| 05:24.54 | Iggyhopper | mmmk |
| 05:24.57 | Iggyhopper | lets see |
| 05:25.02 | Iggyhopper | okay maybe i can do it right now |
| 05:25.19 | Iggyhopper | Create Asset Project |
| 05:25.23 | Sixen | yu[ |
| 05:25.23 | Sixen | p |
| 05:25.50 | Iggyhopper | OMG liscenses |
| 05:25.53 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 05:25.54 | Sixen | yarly. |
| 05:26.11 | Iggyhopper | MIT? |
| 05:26.23 | Iggyhopper | custom liscense |
| 05:26.28 | Iggyhopper | content: NO U |
| 05:26.31 | Iggyhopper | thats all |
| 05:26.36 | Bifuu | lol |
| 05:27.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster sztanpet (~sztanpet@142.58ec54.tvnetwork.hu) |
| 05:27.43 | Iggyhopper | just a basic All Rights Reserved? |
| 05:27.45 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 05:27.49 | Iggyhopper | whats the map editor? |
| 05:28.14 | Bifuu | License |
| 05:28.14 | Bifuu | All Rights Reserved |
| 05:28.17 | Bifuu | ^ |
| 05:28.23 | Iggyhopper | o |
| 05:28.28 | Iggyhopper | ok ill stick with that |
| 05:29.07 | Bifuu | im trying to get my head around CameraData |
| 05:29.21 | Bifuu | its something i really gatta know for my first map too xD |
| 05:30.44 | Iggyhopper | type of markup |
| 05:30.52 | nicoli_s | there is a post somewhere explaining camerdta |
| 05:31.01 | nicoli_s | cuz someone made a mod for it that adds new zoom levels |
| 05:31.05 | Iggyhopper | lol |
| 05:31.09 | Iggyhopper | ok so ticket tracker |
| 05:31.14 | Iggyhopper | Sixen |
| 05:31.26 | Bifuu | for sc2? |
| 05:31.33 | Iggyhopper | lolidk |
| 05:31.49 | Iggyhopper | I can edit everything for this project after I create it, right? |
| 05:32.42 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sanktanglia * r20 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 05:32.43 | Repo | fixes display of galaxy editor and switching between it and the map |
| 05:33.37 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 05:33.59 | Bifuu | hmmm |
| 05:34.03 | Bifuu | where at ou remember? |
| 05:35.15 | Iggyhopper | Sixen approooooooooove |
| 05:36.09 | Athryn | hey Bifuu do you play warcraft as well? |
| 05:36.27 | Bifuu | 3 or wow? |
| 05:36.49 | Bifuu | never touched 3 really and yeah i used to play WoW but now i dont |
| 05:36.57 | Jerub | i used to play war2 on kali |
| 05:37.02 | Jerub | that was my last internet rts gaming |
| 05:37.25 | Jerub | i still have my kali key |
| 05:37.34 | Sixen | Sorry, doing it now. |
| 05:37.42 | ckknight | I remember Kali |
| 05:37.52 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/ez-modder/. EZ Modder. Iggyhopper (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 05:37.52 | Iggyhopper | so how do i upload my project? |
| 05:38.07 | Sixen | Should be a spot for files. |
| 05:38.11 | Iggyhopper | k |
| 05:38.34 | Iggyhopper | oh ok and what about the repository? |
| 05:38.43 | Iggyhopper | i can do that too, or whatever |
| 05:39.29 | Iggyhopper | I'll upload the file tomorrow night. |
| 05:39.34 | Iggyhopper | I have to go to bed now. |
| 05:39.40 | nicoli_s | later man |
| 05:41.55 | Jerub | ckknight: ah, but do you remember schlonglar? |
| 05:42.02 | ckknight | nope |
| 05:42.22 | Jerub | he had a warcraft 2 blog that predated slashdot ;) |
| 05:42.31 | Jerub | i don't think google knows who he is.. |
| 05:42.53 | Jerub | looks it up |
| 05:43.27 | Athryn | Bifuu: did you play WoW on Trollbane? |
| 05:44.11 | Bifuu | yep |
| 05:46.33 | Bifuu | i will never learn |
| 05:46.44 | Bifuu | "wtf my screen is all black no matter what i do!" |
| 05:46.49 | Bifuu | oh wait mpq editor is open |
| 05:47.05 | Jerub | Shlonglor |
| 05:48.14 | Bifuu | sounds dirty |
| 05:48.15 | Jerub | damn |
| 05:48.16 | Jerub | http://www.andrews.edu/~fraizer/war2.cgi |
| 05:48.28 | Jerub | http://everything2.com/title/Shlonglor |
| 05:50.40 | nicoli_s | so anyone in here have much experience with the ai code? |
| 05:50.50 | Jerub | sorry, going down memory lane just now |
| 05:52.12 | Bifuu | nic: i think Astazha i think does? |
| 05:52.23 | Zeerti | yeah he does |
| 05:52.25 | Zeerti | pretty well. |
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| 05:57.16 | Bifuu | damn i cant get any of my changes to camera data to work =/ |
| 05:57.24 | Sixen | Shlonglor was GFrazier |
| 05:57.24 | nicoli_s | night all |
| 05:57.24 | Sixen | =o |
| 05:57.27 | Sixen | Night nic |
| 05:57.31 | Bifuu | later nic |
| 06:02.49 | Sixen | Bif, seeing that XML list half blue makes me hard. |
| 06:02.58 | Sixen | ... For lack of a better word. |
| 06:04.36 | Bifuu | oh lawd |
| 06:04.41 | Sixen | Keke. |
| 06:05.04 | Bifuu | it came to a stall becase i found something that made me hard, but since i cant get it to work im going soft again |
| 06:05.17 | Sixen | That's what girls do, unfortunately. |
| 06:05.22 | Sixen | Don't work :( |
| 06:05.30 | Bifuu | lololol like mine! |
| 06:05.34 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:05.43 | Bifuu | then again its impossible for her to physically work |
| 06:05.46 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 06:06.04 | Bifuu | you know i try to like ignore her and stuff so she gets mad at me, it doesnt work |
| 06:06.06 | Jerub | Sixen: i take it GFrazier is a more widely known name :P |
| 06:06.12 | Sixen | Bahahahaha |
| 06:06.18 | Sixen | Jerub, no doubt. GFrazier/Nebu :p |
| 06:06.36 | Sixen | Did you know him? |
| 06:06.43 | Bifuu | like today, never texted her once or called her, tomorrow she will be all like "i love you dustin <3 <3 <3!" and ill be like "yeah!..." |
| 06:06.46 | Jerub | Sixen: i'd played against him. |
| 06:06.53 | Sixen | :| |
| 06:06.56 | Sixen | SC2, jerub? |
| 06:07.18 | Jerub | http://www.warcry.com/news/view/14596-World-Of-Warcraft-The-GFraizer-Mystery |
| 06:07.28 | Jerub | Sixen: sorry, 4pm, won't be home till 6pmish |
| 06:07.42 | Sixen | Nono |
| 06:07.45 | Jerub | Bifuu: wow, you really need to learn how to communicate with women |
| 06:07.46 | Sixen | You played against him in sc2? :P |
| 06:07.50 | Jerub | no, warcraft 2. |
| 06:07.53 | Jerub | like, 14 years ago |
| 06:07.58 | Sixen | Oh, you used to play War2 with him back in the day? |
| 06:08.15 | Jerub | we were both in the very-small kali/war2 community, and i'd met him in games back then. |
| 06:08.23 | Sixen | Yeah, I remember Kali. |
| 06:08.27 | Sixen | That was the shit, ^_^ |
| 06:08.32 | Jerub | fuck yeah. |
| 06:08.33 | Sixen | Still have the lifetime sub. |
| 06:08.37 | Jerub | so do i. |
| 06:08.40 | Sixen | $20, lol |
| 06:08.43 | Bifuu | well obviously |
| 06:08.43 | Jerub | it's on a piece of paper in my filing cabinet. |
| 06:08.47 | Bifuu | its kinda uh |
| 06:08.49 | Bifuu | lifetime |
| 06:08.57 | Jerub | Bifuu: the thing is. kali still /exists/. |
| 06:09.14 | Bifuu | Jerub: the thing is /i dunno wtf that is/ =P |
| 06:09.21 | Jerub | Bifuu: lol. |
| 06:09.24 | Sixen | It was what was used before Bnet was released. |
| 06:09.28 | Bifuu | Jerub: i know rite? |
| 06:09.34 | Bifuu | o |
| 06:09.35 | Jerub | Bifuu: you know how in the old days games were played on IPX networks instead of TCP/IP? |
| 06:09.52 | Bifuu | Jerub: you mean back when i was like 6? sure! |
| 06:09.55 | Sixen | lol |
| 06:09.55 | Jerub | because you didn't need addreses and stuff to lan as IPX... |
| 06:09.56 | Jerub | yeah |
| 06:09.57 | Jerub | back then. |
| 06:10.09 | Bifuu | what year did war 2 come out |
| 06:10.17 | Jerub | kali was this vpn thing that would make it like you were on a lan with a bunch of people on the internet. it was a massive distributed VPN of IPX networks. |
| 06:10.19 | Sixen | it was before d1, right? |
| 06:10.23 | Jerub | 94 |
| 06:10.25 | Jerub | iirc |
| 06:10.25 | Sixen | 93 maybe? |
| 06:10.25 | Sixen | ah |
| 06:10.30 | Bifuu | holy fuck |
| 06:10.31 | Bifuu | i was 4 |
| 06:10.49 | Sixen | Oh wow. 1995 |
| 06:10.52 | Sixen | Didn't know it was that late. |
| 06:10.54 | Jerub | so you would fire up kali, launch war2 from it, and man, there were 10-12 lan game lobbies all listed! |
| 06:10.58 | Jerub | and it had a chat interface. |
| 06:11.01 | Jerub | Sixen: really? wow |
| 06:11.01 | Sixen | They released War2 after D1 and didn't include Bnet? |
| 06:11.02 | Bifuu | holy fuck, i was 5 |
| 06:11.06 | Sixen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_II |
| 06:11.14 | Sixen | Or was d1 jan1 1996..? |
| 06:11.31 | Jerub | there were ladders back thent oo |
| 06:11.33 | Sixen | Yeah. War2 came out the month before. |
| 06:11.40 | Jerub | iwas in the NWL i think. |
| 06:11.54 | Jerub | i even had a 4v4 team. |
| 06:12.00 | Sixen | hahaha |
| 06:12.14 | Sixen | That was such a great game, and it was so simple thinking back |
| 06:12.26 | Sixen | Great for it's time, no doubt. |
| 06:12.28 | Jerub | Sixen: yeah, it was basically T1/T2 units, etc. |
| 06:12.31 | Bifuu | how old are you guys O.o |
| 06:12.36 | Jerub | but man, paladins didn't have autocasting heals. |
| 06:12.41 | Sixen | I'm only 19, :P. Jerub's older for sure. |
| 06:12.49 | Sixen | But I played it back then... somehow. |
| 06:12.50 | Jerub | 27 |
| 06:13.10 | Bifuu | 19 eh? whens your birthday |
| 06:13.14 | Sixen | April |
| 06:13.21 | Bifuu | damn it you are older |
| 06:13.27 | ckknight | <-- 22 |
| 06:13.28 | Bifuu | 3 months qq |
| 06:13.32 | Sixen | =p |
| 06:14.07 | Bifuu | well back in 95 i was a console gamer i was all up on SNES Live... yeah |
| 06:14.15 | Sixen | Pfft. |
| 06:14.18 | Sixen | That'd have been sick. |
| 06:14.38 | Sixen | Lost Vikings and DK Country, ;) |
| 06:14.39 | Sixen | Super Mario. |
| 06:14.52 | Bifuu | Chrono Trigger |
| 06:14.59 | Bifuu | Secret of Mana |
| 06:15.03 | Bifuu | Secret of Evermore |
| 06:15.07 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:15.09 | Bifuu | Breath of Fire |
| 06:15.14 | Bifuu | those were my ames |
| 06:15.16 | Bifuu | games |
| 06:15.27 | Bifuu | oh and Lufia |
| 06:15.45 | Jerub | in '95 i lived in hk |
| 06:15.51 | Jerub | where we played snes games off 1.44mb floppies |
| 06:15.59 | Sixen | Bahahah. DOS |
| 06:16.34 | Bifuu | lol |
| 06:18.17 | Jerub | no |
| 06:18.30 | Sixen | Win 3.1? |
| 06:18.32 | Jerub | i mean, there was a floppy drive that they used for their snes. |
| 06:18.37 | Jerub | it was a massive cartridge |
| 06:18.43 | Sixen | Oh. Lawd. |
| 06:18.45 | Jerub | and had its own game loader. |
| 06:20.33 | Bifuu | Oh and in these new game files theres a massive amount of reverb constants just listed lol should prolly stash them somewhere |
| 06:20.44 | Bifuu | (i totally changed the subject) |
| 06:20.49 | Sixen | What new game files? |
| 06:22.33 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/fow-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 06:22.38 | Bifuu | the files i never knew existed |
| 06:22.45 | Bifuu | in the Core SC2data |
| 06:22.50 | Sixen | =o? |
| 06:23.23 | Bifuu | theres 26 lines of stuff like |
| 06:23.24 | Bifuu | #define FMOD_PRESET_OFF { 0, -1, 7.5f, 1.00f, -10000, -10000, 0, 1.00f, 1.00f, 1.0f, -2602, 0.007f, { 0.0f,0.0f,0.0f }, 200, 0.011f, { 0.0f,0.0f,0.0f }, 0.250f, 0.00f, 0.25f, 0.000f, -5.0f, 5000.0f, 250.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f, 0x33f } |
| 06:23.52 | Bifuu | A bunch of reverb effects |
| 06:23.58 | Corbo | i r back |
| 06:24.02 | Bifuu | like this one |
| 06:24.03 | Bifuu | #define FMOD_PRESET_BATHROOM { 0, 3, 1.4f, 1.00f, -1000, -1200, 0, 1.49f, 0.54f, 1.0f, -370, 0.007f, { 0.0f,0.0f,0.0f }, 1030, 0.011f, { 0.0f,0.0f,0.0f }, 0.250f, 0.00f, 0.25f, 0.000f, -5.0f, 5000.0f, 250.0f, 0.0f, 100.0f, 60.0f, 0x3f } |
| 06:24.07 | Sixen | interesting |
| 06:24.08 | Corbo | oh yes |
| 06:24.09 | Sixen | heya corbo |
| 06:24.10 | Bifuu | makes you sound like you are in a bathroom!@ |
| 06:24.18 | Corbo | you can thank me later ;o |
| 06:24.20 | Sixen | lol |
| 06:24.28 | Bifuu | yeah screw you Corbo! |
| 06:24.35 | Corbo | If it wasn't for me |
| 06:24.40 | Corbo | you wouldn't have extra work now |
| 06:24.41 | Corbo | oh wait |
| 06:24.42 | Corbo | :P |
| 06:24.44 | Bifuu | =( |
| 06:24.49 | Bifuu | oh well |
| 06:24.54 | Bifuu | its for completeness after all |
| 06:25.31 | Sixen | Bif, is BehaviorData big? |
| 06:26.54 | Bifuu | uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 06:27.21 | Bifuu | Not really |
| 06:27.40 | Bifuu | its just confusing a bit and i didnt feel like staring at it for ever |
| 06:27.46 | Bifuu | so thats why i skipped it =P |
| 06:30.22 | Corbo | hmm |
| 06:30.33 | Corbo | what's |
| 06:30.33 | Corbo | oh |
| 06:30.35 | Corbo | hmm no |
| 06:30.36 | Corbo | wait |
| 06:30.38 | Sixen | Haha, OK. No worries bif. |
| 06:30.38 | Corbo | ya |
| 06:30.44 | Sixen | I think that might be important though |
| 06:30.57 | Corbo | yeah nevermind |
| 06:31.06 | Sixen | Corbo, are there any big modding XML files that we don't have doc'd yet? |
| 06:31.18 | Corbo | not sure what's been documented so far |
| 06:31.27 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/ |
| 06:31.28 | Corbo | bifuu's like whoring on the xml files right now ;o |
| 06:31.30 | Sixen | Blue has a page, red doesn't. |
| 06:31.38 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:31.46 | Bifuu | im not whoring im pimping |
| 06:31.52 | Sixen | Haha |
| 06:31.59 | Corbo | CameraData! |
| 06:32.11 | Corbo | most important XML ever |
| 06:32.14 | Bifuu | I was ganna do that one |
| 06:32.15 | Corbo | </catalog> |
| 06:32.18 | Corbo | :P |
| 06:32.21 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:32.21 | Bifuu | Not in core |
| 06:32.25 | Bifuu | in Core its like |
| 06:32.27 | Bifuu | WTF |
| 06:32.28 | Corbo | yeah, I know. |
| 06:32.32 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 06:32.34 | Bifuu | fuck you |
| 06:32.34 | Corbo | everything's more amazing in core. |
| 06:32.35 | Bifuu | =P |
| 06:32.54 | Corbo | MoverData is kind of important |
| 06:32.55 | Sixen | What happens in Core, stays in Core? |
| 06:32.59 | Bifuu | I will never let it go Corbo! |
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| 06:33.13 | Bifuu | actually yea, pretty much |
| 06:33.23 | Corbo | yeah |
| 06:33.24 | Sixen | Alright so, MoverData & CameraData |
| 06:33.27 | Corbo | core's like special |
| 06:33.28 | Sixen | And i still have to redo unit |
| 06:33.36 | Corbo | everything's in core. |
| 06:33.43 | Corbo | I'll take moverdata right now |
| 06:33.43 | Bifuu | Ill Do unit eventually Sixen |
| 06:33.49 | Bifuu | im sure theres alot in core for it too |
| 06:33.54 | Sixen | Hrm |
| 06:34.01 | Bifuu | unless you want to go for it |
| 06:34.02 | Corbo | just let me see what you guys are atually doing. |
| 06:34.06 | Bifuu | then have at it i wont stop you |
| 06:34.07 | Corbo | brb switching comps |
| 06:34.14 | Jerub | is it possible to move the camera around? |
| 06:34.14 | Sixen | If you want to take care of it, I can start poking around the UI files |
| 06:34.31 | Bifuu | yeah do that since MWE's future is ui |
| 06:34.40 | Sixen | And doc'ing those. Especially since GE won't support it and MWE will. |
| 06:34.54 | Jerub | i want to be able to rotate barracks. |
| 06:34.54 | Bifuu | ill take care of the stuff that will prolly never be opened manually after galaxy comes out =P |
| 06:34.58 | Jerub | :/ |
| 06:35.06 | Sixen | lol, I don't think that's true. |
| 06:35.16 | vjeux | heya |
| 06:35.21 | Bifuu | Jerub theres a way to rotate the camera in game |
| 06:35.23 | Sixen | Mornin' vjeux |
| 06:35.28 | Bifuu | i just dunno how |
| 06:35.35 | Bifuu | Vj lost his @ |
| 06:35.41 | Sixen | I can't even give =[ |
| 06:36.10 | Sixen | (11:36:08 PM) ChanServ: (notice) You are not authorized to execute this command. |
| 06:36.10 | Sixen | :( |
| 06:36.31 | Bifuu | maybe you can atleast mod him? |
| 06:36.38 | Bifuu | that gives him something! |
| 06:36.39 | Bifuu | lol |
| 06:37.13 | Sixen | I can't give any irc access :( |
| 06:37.34 | vjeux | I don't deserve it, there is no hello world projec t:p |
| 06:37.48 | vjeux | anyway we hit the 3k uniques yesterday |
| 06:38.01 | Sixen | lol |
| 06:38.09 | Sixen | HelloWorld prj please. |
| 06:38.26 | Sixen | Nic committed another ver of MWE |
| 06:38.29 | Sixen | Can place units. |
| 06:38.35 | vjeux | woot |
| 06:38.57 | Sixen | And I added an icon :D |
| 06:38.59 | vjeux | need to make a vid of it and start marketing it |
| 06:39.05 | Sixen | MWE? |
| 06:39.28 | Bifuu | Sixen you cant even +V people? |
| 06:39.31 | Sixen | I tried |
| 06:39.32 | Sixen | =/ |
| 06:39.47 | Bifuu | lame |
| 06:39.50 | Sixen | Seriously. |
| 06:41.42 | vjeux | Sixen is a tiny op, I knew it |
| 06:41.54 | Sixen | QQ |
| 06:42.10 | Bifuu | lol |
| 06:42.31 | Bifuu | i dont remember anything about irc i had to wiki what the other op levels were xD |
| 06:42.51 | Bifuu | and its like |
| 06:42.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster sztanphet (~sztanpet@142.58ec54.tvnetwork.hu) |
| 06:43.07 | Bifuu | "Even half ops can set users to +V!" so that explains alot huh |
| 06:43.52 | Sixen | Well, i'm +O |
| 06:43.59 | Sixen | What flags are needed to give access? |
| 06:44.50 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/race-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 06:45.22 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.32 | Bifuu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat_channel_operator |
| 06:45.33 | Sixen | I can't do either. |
| 06:45.55 | Bifuu | i dunno ask ck, im sure he knows more than my fail at reading a wiki page |
| 06:46.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster Corbo (~thecorbo@190.87.67.185) |
| 06:46.25 | Corbo | back |
| 06:47.28 | vjeux | hey Corbo |
| 06:47.32 | Corbo | hi |
| 06:50.48 | Corbo | nvm |
| 06:50.50 | Corbo | I won't do it |
| 06:50.53 | Corbo | I don't know how |
| 06:52.05 | Corbo | or maybe I do |
| 06:52.07 | Corbo | I'll try |
| 06:52.12 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 06:52.13 | Sixen | What are you talking about :( |
| 06:52.19 | Bifuu | ^ |
| 06:52.43 | Corbo | moverdata |
| 06:52.55 | Sixen | Oh |
| 06:52.56 | Sixen | OK |
| 06:53.03 | Corbo | I got confused |
| 06:53.14 | Corbo | cause you are always listing more than one |
| 06:53.15 | Corbo | uh |
| 06:53.16 | Corbo | dunno |
| 06:53.18 | Corbo | I'll do it |
| 06:53.20 | Corbo | >.> |
| 06:55.36 | Bifuu | Listing more than one what |
| 06:57.09 | vjeux | wow Bifuu you added a lot of xml tonight |
| 06:57.16 | Sixen | Bif is fucking beast. |
| 06:57.45 | Bifuu | rawr? |
| 06:57.52 | Sixen | yes rawr indeed |
| 06:58.00 | Bifuu | i added alot but i have to go abck through most of it |
| 06:58.24 | Bifuu | i cant even remember what i did recently |
| 06:58.28 | Sixen | lol |
| 06:58.42 | Jerub | whenever you say 'rawr' i'm thinking of the dps simulation tool |
| 06:58.52 | Bifuu | WOWNERD |
| 06:58.54 | Bifuu | =P |
| 06:59.17 | Bifuu | >.> i used spreadsheets <.< |
| 06:59.25 | vjeux | Sixen: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/unit-data-xml/ |
| 06:59.29 | vjeux | it's still in the old format! |
| 07:00.00 | Sixen | Yeah, been over taht ;) |
| 07:00.19 | Sixen | Bif said he was going to redo it and i'm just going to poke through UI |
| 07:00.44 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 07:00.49 | Sixen | Since that WONT be in GE and will hopefully be in MWE. |
| 07:01.19 | vjeux | maybe in HXE |
| 07:01.25 | Sixen | HXE? |
| 07:01.52 | Sixen | HelloWorld XE? |
| 07:01.53 | vjeux | another cryptic abbreviation :p |
| 07:02.19 | Sixen | I don't get it =/ |
| 07:02.45 | vjeux | GE and MWE are not common |
| 07:02.52 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/cliff-mesh-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 07:02.53 | vjeux | Galaxy and MilkyWay |
| 07:03.02 | Sixen | Right, MilkyWay is a Galaxy |
| 07:03.29 | Sixen | I suppose it should've been PlanetEdit |
| 07:03.54 | vjeux | EarthEdit |
| 07:03.59 | Bifuu | BlackHoleEdit |
| 07:04.00 | Bifuu | oh yea |
| 07:04.06 | vjeux | then the v2 would have been FireEdit |
| 07:04.15 | Bifuu | AntiMatterEdit |
| 07:04.41 | Bifuu | WindEdit? |
| 07:05.02 | vjeux | blackholeedit would lead to gay porn :( |
| 07:05.10 | Sixen | Lmfao |
| 07:05.25 | Bifuu | im affraid to ask |
| 07:05.46 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/requirement-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 07:06.09 | vjeux | anyway got to go, I'm already 10 min late for school :X |
| 07:06.14 | Sixen | =/ |
| 07:10.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster veselu (~mpalade@gateway.streamwide.ro) |
| 07:10.58 | Sixen | Hey vese |
| 07:11.02 | veselu | good morning |
| 07:11.05 | Sixen | You just missed vjeux... 14 seconds. |
| 07:11.12 | veselu | np |
| 07:11.35 | veselu | i'm at work right now so I'm gonna idle around here :D |
| 07:11.38 | Sixen | =] |
| 07:12.02 | veselu | got something for you though :D |
| 07:12.26 | veselu | http://www.noob.us/games/flash-game-light-bot/ |
| 07:12.33 | veselu | new addiction :D |
| 07:12.37 | Sixen | Oh god |
| 07:12.38 | Sixen | no more games |
| 07:12.45 | Sixen | I wasted 2 hours that night on the damn box game |
| 07:13.03 | veselu | it's funnier i promise :D |
| 07:13.11 | veselu | involves programming skills :) |
| 07:14.17 | Sixen | lol interesting |
| 07:14.34 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/requirement-node-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 07:17.19 | Bifuu | omg |
| 07:17.24 | Bifuu | damn you for linking this game |
| 07:18.21 | Sixen | llol |
| 07:18.45 | Bifuu | doh well looks like i cant play it, chrome died lol |
| 07:19.11 | Bifuu | about to go to bed but first |
| 07:19.34 | Bifuu | I claim, all XML Documented by next tuesday |
| 07:19.51 | veselu | :) |
| 07:20.20 | Bifuu | i have to work like all day friday, and half the day sat and sunday so thast why i say tuesday haha |
| 07:20.37 | Sixen | I'm holding you to it Bif |
| 07:20.37 | Sixen | <3 |
| 07:20.51 | Sixen | Vjeux's going to continue with the galaxy API. |
| 07:21.33 | Bifuu | What do i get if i hit that mark? |
| 07:21.37 | Bifuu | it better be a cookie |
| 07:21.50 | Sixen | Chocolate? |
| 07:21.54 | Bifuu | or a nap, im sure by then ill need one |
| 07:21.59 | Sixen | both. |
| 07:22.14 | Bifuu | macadamia nut =P i think thats how its spelt |
| 07:22.14 | Corbo | they don't show up in order... |
| 07:22.42 | Bifuu | It auto sorts to alphabetical |
| 07:23.04 | Corbo | ah |
| 07:23.05 | Bifuu | i asked ck to add the option to turn off autosorting |
| 07:23.12 | Corbo | yeahh >.> |
| 07:23.19 | Bifuu | btw |
| 07:23.27 | Bifuu | heres how i keep going at the xml files |
| 07:23.31 | Bifuu | http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Shots+Featuring+Lil+Jon+/2ssga2 that song on repeat |
| 07:23.37 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/mover-data-xml/ by xcorbo |
| 07:23.43 | Corbo | check it out |
| 07:23.48 | Corbo | and tell me if that's how it's done |
| 07:24.44 | Bifuu | looks right |
| 07:25.17 | Bifuu | well is all that supposed to be a sub child to MotionPhases? |
| 07:25.26 | Corbo | yeah |
| 07:25.27 | Bifuu | k |
| 07:25.29 | Bifuu | then yeah |
| 07:25.51 | Corbo | motionphases are just >.> phases the object goes through |
| 07:25.52 | Corbo | like |
| 07:26.02 | Sixen | I'll remind him to fix that, bif |
| 07:26.04 | Corbo | a missile will go through launch |
| 07:26.09 | Corbo | travel |
| 07:26.10 | Corbo | and hit |
| 07:26.28 | Corbo | the "driver" changes and determines which phase is in |
| 07:26.38 | Corbo | which is why I wanted driver to be first >.> |
| 07:26.48 | Bifuu | and here i use this Corbo in notepad to make my life easier |
| 07:26.48 | Bifuu | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1865/ |
| 07:27.34 | Sixen | That's a good idea.. |
| 07:27.41 | Sixen | We should make a templates page -_- |
| 07:27.46 | Corbo | I did the same :P |
| 07:27.51 | Bifuu | lol |
| 07:28.04 | Bifuu | SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS |
| 07:28.21 | Bifuu | keeps you awake |
| 07:28.23 | Bifuu | i swear it |
| 07:28.34 | Sixen | Good song. |
| 07:29.28 | Bifuu | haha |
| 07:29.47 | Bifuu | i havnt really "listened" to the song, just the Shots part jars me |
| 07:29.52 | Sixen | :P |
| 07:30.29 | Bifuu | anyways im going to sleep, ill be awake around noon EST, or 1pm or maybe 2 lol |
| 07:30.37 | Bifuu | cya |
| 07:30.39 | Jerub | bah |
| 07:30.46 | Jerub | be awake for 2 more hours so i can 1v1 with you |
| 07:30.48 | Jerub | bah |
| 07:31.04 | Bifuu | Sorry my eyelids are like "fuck you im closing" |
| 07:31.11 | Jerub | the one time i had someone turn up on my friends list it was some guy i'd not talked to here and he didn't know who i was. |
| 07:31.17 | Jerub | Bifuu: screw you. |
| 07:31.24 | Bifuu | i will! |
| 07:31.45 | Corbo | 1v1 |
| 07:31.46 | Corbo | GOGOGO |
| 07:32.45 | Corbo | since I was ignored |
| 07:32.49 | Corbo | I'll just go to bed too |
| 07:33.04 | Corbo | and finish the xml tomorrow |
| 07:33.25 | Sixen | no |
| 07:33.28 | Sixen | I love you corbo. |
| 07:33.34 | Jerub | :'( |
| 07:36.45 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/ by sixen |
| 07:37.07 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/ by sixen |
| 07:42.13 | Corbo | k |
| 07:42.15 | Corbo | sleep time |
| 07:42.16 | Corbo | bai |
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| 08:10.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 08:11.15 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03Sholdak * r21 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (8 files in 1 directory): Fixed a few launch map bugs (map files with spaces, etc) |
| 08:11.17 | Repo | Added sample settings file to project |
| 08:11.18 | Repo | Modified TreeView UI to be a bit more usable |
| 08:11.20 | Repo | Some code for generic node additions (currently disabled) |
| 08:16.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@95.76.177.207) |
| 08:16.59 | Sixen | orly sholdak |
| 08:17.09 | Sixen | What error message spit out for those bugs? |
| 09:00.15 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/markup-types/templates/ by sixen |
| 09:07.48 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/models/geoset/ by witchsong |
| 09:08.27 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/models/geoset/ by witchsong |
| 09:12.26 | Sholdak | <@Sixen> What error message spit out for those bugs? |
| 09:12.50 | Sholdak | it just couldnt find maps with spaces since the parameter needed to be in quotes |
| 09:12.54 | Sholdak | when passed to the launcher |
| 09:13.09 | Sholdak | and it actually launched the launcher twice |
| 09:16.17 | Sixen | ah |
| 11:34.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (~a3052a3d@gateway/web/freenode/x-odsmhulwgynjeqpi) |
| 11:41.32 | vjeux | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/?sort=-date |
| 11:41.39 | vjeux | just found how to get the latest changes! |
| 11:42.15 | vjeux | hmm, the sorting is not working really great :X |
| 11:44.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Remy_ (~83d3ec6a@gateway/web/freenode/x-pnlzkxwfhztxdkpb) |
| 11:44.57 | Remy_ | I'm working on type checking now |
| 11:45.15 | Remy_ | but array type also depend on the size of the array |
| 11:45.20 | Remy_ | which can be specified using operators right |
| 11:45.46 | Remy_ | int array_length = 2 +3 * 3; int[array_length] arr; |
| 11:46.06 | Remy_ | so during the type checker I have to evaluate these operators "2 + 3 * 3" |
| 11:46.13 | Remy_ | kind of annoying |
| 11:53.34 | vjeux | yeah :x |
| 11:54.07 | vjeux | well, you could drop the support for different array length check for now |
| 12:02.47 | Astazha | morning |
| 12:03.36 | Astazha | Yeah, multi-dim arrays and addition in the size parameter are giving Lapin's trouble too. He fixed multi-dim but I need to rework mycode so that the size is getting a straight constant or int |
| 12:04.54 | vjeux | do you know if lapin could get in the irc? |
| 12:09.04 | Astazha | Yeah, we were talking last night. His account is on now: lapin_sc but he's afk asleep I think. |
| 12:09.17 | HP-X | morning |
| 12:10.00 | vjeux | I see, that's great |
| 12:10.01 | vjeux | hello HP-X |
| 12:10.03 | Astazha | Morning HP |
| 12:10.05 | HP-X | errr |
| 12:10.06 | HP-X | what |
| 12:10.20 | HP-X | arr[3] is not sam typ as arr[7]? |
| 12:10.25 | vjeux | no |
| 12:11.22 | HP-X | alrighty then |
| 12:11.48 | vjeux | fyi we hit the 3k uniques yesterday |
| 12:12.02 | HP-X | congratulations :) |
| 12:12.08 | Astazha | sexy. You were featured on SCLegacy Sixen said. |
| 12:12.14 | HP-X | yeah |
| 12:12.20 | vjeux | yeah |
| 12:12.31 | Astazha | There was a pile of people in irc last night too. |
| 12:12.37 | HP-X | sc2mapster is the first site to get some coverage on random sites |
| 12:13.07 | HP-X | well, modding site anyway. |
| 12:13.15 | vjeux | there are no other modding sites atm |
| 12:13.37 | HP-X | hmm thats true! |
| 12:14.08 | vjeux | I really want the editor to be out to get some competition |
| 12:14.24 | HP-X | http://galaxywiki.com/wiki/Main_Page |
| 12:14.38 | HP-X | not really looked at that wiki though |
| 12:15.03 | HP-X | seems to be api more or less |
| 12:15.04 | vjeux | it is dead |
| 12:15.20 | HP-X | well then |
| 12:15.21 | vjeux | http://galaxywiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&days=30 |
| 12:15.28 | HP-X | make damn sure this site wont die ;) |
| 12:15.35 | HP-X | im getting comfortable |
| 12:15.44 | vjeux | of course it wont :) |
| 12:16.21 | Astazha | Curse funding helps ; ) |
| 12:16.25 | HP-X | now.... |
| 12:16.36 | HP-X | did bifuu start looking at the ui xml:s? |
| 12:16.41 | Astazha | Sure, but they could get ad revenue if they wanted. |
| 12:17.18 | vjeux | there won't be ads on sc2mapster |
| 12:17.20 | Astazha | Besides, Curse hasn't exactly been afraid to use a business model that involves giving things out for free. |
| 12:17.21 | HP-X | well, if funding would for some reason become a problem id gladly make some donation |
| 12:17.29 | HP-X | ofc there wont, adblock <3 |
| 12:17.57 | vjeux | the main goal with the site is growing our "power user" user base |
| 12:18.11 | HP-X | power user? |
| 12:18.14 | vjeux | developers |
| 12:18.24 | HP-X | ah |
| 12:19.20 | vjeux | the added value of curse is lying inside the addon developers |
| 12:20.29 | vjeux | and we are rewarding them by sharing revenues |
| 12:21.03 | Astazha | Correct me if I'm wrong: you create a community where people are developing software that people want for free, and then charge for the convenient distribution system to the premium users? |
| 12:21.22 | vjeux | our business model is mainly ads |
| 12:21.28 | Astazha | I see. |
| 12:21.35 | Astazha | And you work for Curse vjeux? |
| 12:21.38 | vjeux | yep |
| 12:21.40 | sztanpet | no Astazha, you are not required to pay for distribution |
| 12:22.12 | Astazha | sztanpet: no, I was just saying for premium use. Like with WoW addons. |
| 12:22.52 | sztanpet | premium is basically just there for people willing to pay, you get to update multiple addons at not capped speeds via the curse client, thats about it |
| 12:23.03 | vjeux | i've never fully understood the premium need |
| 12:23.11 | vjeux | I think its main use is for investors |
| 12:23.38 | vjeux | to show that we have people dedicated enough to pay |
| 12:23.38 | Astazha | me either, I use regs. it's no big deal to click on each addon |
| 12:23.44 | sztanpet | its a way for people to give back to addon authors, a few of my friends are doing it because its a nice way to say thanks |
| 12:23.54 | vjeux | but this isn't a viable business model |
| 12:24.21 | Astazha | I see. I'm trying to remember... does the Curse Client display ads? Or just the website? |
| 12:24.38 | sztanpet | dunno, i think it displays adds |
| 12:25.41 | veselu | vjeux i've added branch 1.2 to Mapster TD svn |
| 12:25.50 | veselu | and made the changes you requested last night |
| 12:26.42 | vjeux | great |
| 12:27.12 | veselu | and regarding waves names I need ideas :) |
| 12:27.25 | veselu | sugestions etc... |
| 12:27.34 | vjeux | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.28 | HP-X | names for waves? |
| 12:29.38 | HP-X | wave # :p |
| 12:29.41 | HP-X | worked fine so far! |
| 12:30.03 | vjeux | we want to reward people for being in the mapster community |
| 12:30.10 | vjeux | having their name on the map is great! |
| 12:30.45 | HP-X | i claim final wave! |
| 12:30.49 | vjeux | SC2Mapster Tower Defense. Project Rank 2 out of 101 in StarCraft 2 |
| 12:31.00 | vjeux | (on nibbits) |
| 12:31.02 | vjeux | not bad :p |
| 12:31.06 | HP-X | btw |
| 12:31.07 | veselu | :) |
| 12:31.09 | Astazha | Oh, lol. Thank kind of wave. |
| 12:31.11 | HP-X | is nibbits creator here? |
| 12:31.12 | Astazha | *that* |
| 12:31.39 | vjeux | nop |
| 12:31.43 | HP-X | i talked to him, got to know he knew nicoli and forgot his name (yeah, I really have a short term memory) |
| 12:31.51 | vjeux | david cramer |
| 12:32.12 | vjeux | he worked for curse before |
| 12:32.17 | HP-X | ah |
| 12:32.55 | vjeux | was the main developper during like 2 years |
| 12:33.08 | vjeux | when curse was still in its infancy |
| 12:36.47 | vjeux | http://starcraft2.net.pl/ |
| 12:36.57 | vjeux | milky way editor makes the front page of sc2.net.pl |
| 12:38.04 | Astazha | .pl = Poland? |
| 12:38.25 | veselu | yes |
| 12:38.28 | vjeux | yes |
| 12:41.15 | Astazha | This lack of a compiler thing has made me a more careful code writer than I've ever been before. |
| 12:41.22 | vjeux | :) |
| 12:50.37 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/melee-init-resources/ by vjeux |
| 12:50.52 | vjeux | I've got to try calling this multiple times |
| 12:51.02 | vjeux | it may enable us to give resource to the player! |
| 12:51.22 | Astazha | That would be good. |
| 12:51.37 | Astazha | I'm astonished by what isn't in this API. |
| 12:51.55 | Astazha | Still just Beta I guess. |
| 12:51.59 | HP-X | free cookies |
| 12:52.03 | vjeux | there's only the strict minimum for AI to work |
| 12:52.12 | HP-X | ill guess we see alot of changes once they give us the editor |
| 12:53.23 | Astazha | I'm excited about the editor coming. Is that supposed to be any particular time in April? |
| 12:54.10 | HP-X | iirc they said mid april |
| 12:54.12 | vjeux | grrr, it only gives mineral once :( |
| 12:54.20 | HP-X | said in twitter dev chat |
| 12:54.52 | HP-X | although some stuff where edited from the responeses |
| 12:54.54 | vjeux | that's so sad |
| 12:55.03 | Astazha | Hmmm... now I have a reason to get a twitter account. |
| 12:55.07 | HP-X | wait |
| 12:55.13 | Astazha | vjeux: that is sad, my condolences |
| 12:55.13 | HP-X | theres a transcript |
| 12:55.19 | HP-X | huasdfuoasdfasjdfasdf |
| 12:55.21 | HP-X | FUCKING ADS |
| 12:55.24 | HP-X | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767157319&sid=3000 |
| 12:55.25 | HP-X | there |
| 12:55.30 | Astazha | ty |
| 12:55.33 | HP-X | Q. Are you guys still working on the Map Editor; and if so, what features are you planning to incorporate into the final piece? |
| 12:55.36 | HP-X | A. Yes. We're still working on the Map Editor and currently working on the publishing system. We intend to release an early version of the editor during the beta so the map-making community can get a head start creating their own maps. This is going to be a stretch for us to pull off, but our hope is to get it out before the end of April. |
| 12:55.55 | HP-X | btw |
| 12:56.00 | Fisker | currently working on the publishing system. |
| 12:56.03 | HP-X | this is something I say sc2mapster might wanna focus on |
| 12:56.03 | HP-X | Q. Does map publishing also store any extra resources (sounds, graphics, etc.) specific to the map, or is this a limitation? |
| 12:56.07 | HP-X | A. Yes. If you add art or sound to a map, it's stored in the map and is therefore downloaded with the map once it's published. Long-term we will be adding support for custom mods where other maps can depend on a single mod pack. For example, if the community wanted to build a "Classic StarCraft" mod, they could do that and share it online and then many maps could be built that depend on that mod. |
| 12:56.29 | Fisker | classic starcraft mod |
| 12:56.33 | Fisker | that seems kinda redundant |
| 12:57.26 | vjeux | in 2d :p |
| 12:57.32 | Fisker | yeah if it's in 2D |
| 12:57.39 | Astazha | I'm excited about a classic starcraft mod ; ) but in 3d. |
| 12:57.52 | Fisker | Should already be in the base package |
| 12:58.00 | Fisker | As far as i know all the old units is still in the game |
| 12:58.07 | HP-X | yeah ofc |
| 12:58.14 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/melee-init-resources/ by vjeux |
| 12:58.15 | Hunter_Killers | even if it wasn't it would be a joke to actually make |
| 12:58.16 | HP-X | but am i the only one that reads it as lib support |
| 12:58.17 | HP-X | for maps |
| 12:58.35 | HP-X | so we have a sc2mapster lib w useful stuff that ppl can use |
| 12:58.42 | vjeux | yup |
| 12:58.51 | vjeux | but who wins money? :p |
| 12:58.57 | HP-X | well |
| 12:59.01 | vjeux | that's the real question! |
| 12:59.02 | HP-X | its like drug dealing |
| 12:59.04 | HP-X | first hook them |
| 12:59.09 | HP-X | then start pushing in ads! |
| 13:01.05 | veselu | vjeux |
| 13:01.07 | veselu | GoldenBARS 26 minutes ago Basumilda I not understand you ! I from russia but can speak english. |
| 13:01.11 | vjeux | yeah |
| 13:01.15 | veselu | :)) |
| 13:01.26 | vjeux | there's one korean that tries to talk to a russian |
| 13:01.28 | vjeux | hardcore |
| 13:01.37 | Astazha | "The Mothership feels like a slow useless arbiter." LOL! |
| 13:01.48 | veselu | he thought Goldenbar was korean |
| 13:01.57 | veselu | Goldenbars |
| 13:03.07 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/melee-init-units/ by vjeux |
| 13:04.41 | vjeux | are the victory conditions stored somewhere? |
| 13:05.02 | vjeux | like in an xml file or something |
| 13:08.21 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/melee-init-options/ by vjeux |
| 13:11.57 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/melee-init-ai/ by vjeux |
| 13:12.26 | HP-X | vjeux: arent victory conditions stored inside the map? |
| 13:12.36 | vjeux | have no idea |
| 13:12.49 | HP-X | err nvm |
| 13:12.56 | veselu | if you were asking me they are in the script for Mapster TD |
| 13:12.57 | HP-X | i was about to say they were stored as triggers in wc3 |
| 13:12.57 | veselu | :) |
| 13:13.09 | HP-X | but now that i think of it, they were set when melee init was run |
| 13:13.20 | HP-X | i guess its the same for sc2 |
| 13:13.37 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/melee-init-ai/ by vjeux |
| 13:13.53 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/melee-init-ai/ by vjeux |
| 13:15.12 | Astazha | Cool, I've got town locations pinned down, whether or not they're air or ground, and whether the enemy has expanded there or not - all without cheating. Now to sort out obstructed locations... |
| 13:15.13 | HP-X | how is melee initiated in a nontouched map? |
| 13:15.51 | vjeux | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1866/ |
| 13:16.10 | vjeux | in jass there were many melee init functions |
| 13:16.19 | HP-X | Melee Game - Give trained Heroes a Scroll of Town Portal (for all players) |
| 13:16.43 | Astazha | Yeah, what's with the WC3? |
| 13:16.58 | vjeux | yeah HP-X ? |
| 13:17.25 | Astazha | are you making a WC3 mod vjeux? |
| 13:17.46 | Astazha | or just an RPS mod? |
| 13:17.46 | vjeux | nop |
| 13:17.59 | vjeux | i'm documenting melee functions right now :p |
| 13:19.27 | HP-X | nvm |
| 13:19.28 | HP-X | :p |
| 13:19.34 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by vjeux |
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| 13:38.24 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/distance-between-points/ by vjeux |
| 13:40.19 | Astazha | Well, AIFilterPathable(unitgroup, point) does not return a group that is capable of moving to point. Maybe it returns a group that's capable of moving at all? |
| 13:42.22 | vjeux | strange |
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| 13:42.43 | vjeux | how did you test? |
| 13:42.58 | Remy_ | are you talking to me? |
| 13:43.03 | vjeux | nop to Astazha |
| 13:43.52 | Astazha | well, 1st I check which spots are ground or air using the startingloc funcs |
| 13:44.11 | Astazha | then I tested with a unitgroup that consisted of all the starting drones and my overlord |
| 13:44.24 | Astazha | with point being the location of another town. |
| 13:44.37 | Astazha | the group returned contains all of the units whether I specify a ground town or an air town |
| 13:45.06 | vjeux | air town are impossible to attain with ground units? |
| 13:45.37 | vjeux | have you tried a location that is impossible to go (rocks ...) |
| 13:45.45 | Astazha | Right, air town is an island. |
| 13:45.56 | Astazha | Well, rocks are more attainable than islands. |
| 13:46.41 | vjeux | a unit won't ever be able to go to a position where there is rock |
| 13:46.47 | vjeux | (ground) |
| 13:47.14 | Astazha | Oh I see, meaning the spot is invalid? Yeah, maybe that's what it does. |
| 13:47.23 | vjeux | yep |
| 13:47.29 | vjeux | that |
| 13:47.33 | Astazha | I'm trying to figure out how to determine whether a spot is ground accessible in the "can I walk there sense." |
| 13:48.05 | vjeux | you can use the GetCameraTarget to easily get locations |
| 13:48.17 | vjeux | it returns the location of the middle of your screen |
| 13:48.22 | vjeux | (documenting it right now |
| 13:48.55 | Astazha | Oh, that's a good idea. I'm trying to discern whether an expansion location is obstructed or not... I could scan for rocks with range of the spot maybe, but depending on map design that could give bad results. |
| 13:51.37 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/camera-get-target/ by vjeux |
| 13:52.08 | vjeux | ok that should help you |
| 13:52.17 | vjeux | also in order to debug |
| 13:52.18 | vjeux | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.28 | vjeux | add a trigger like that that reacts on chat message |
| 13:52.42 | vjeux | just say "." and it will execute the trigger |
| 13:52.58 | Astazha | Hmm... I like that. |
| 14:08.45 | vjeux | :) |
| 14:12.17 | Astazha | Debug chat commands will be very helpful when testing the AI... I've just added making a library of them to my project priorities. Thanks very much for the suggestion. |
| 14:13.13 | HP-X | how would i add a section to say the XML part on wiki |
| 14:17.12 | ckknight | section? |
| 14:17.27 | ckknight | HP-X: basically, copy another part that's similar, mold it to how you want |
| 14:17.31 | ckknight | you'll figure it out if you're smart :P |
| 14:18.22 | Xtek | morning |
| 14:18.46 | dusthawk | morning everybody |
| 14:19.12 | ckknight | howdy. |
| 14:19.40 | ckknight | you know what's a pain? implementing a datagrid widget in WoW's API |
| 14:19.43 | ckknight | shudders |
| 14:20.26 | Xtek | hah |
| 14:20.29 | Xtek | do it like WinForms |
| 14:20.35 | Xtek | draw an image |
| 14:21.20 | ckknight | basically the way I have to do it is by setting up a shitton of FontStrings |
| 14:21.26 | ckknight | properly positioned relative to each other |
| 14:21.39 | ckknight | figuring out the widths of everything is a big pain |
| 14:21.51 | ckknight | alright, gonna head in |
| 14:28.42 | vjeux | woot just made a sqrt function :) |
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| 14:32.05 | vjeux | ckknight: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/?sort=-date is that possible to do a deep sort |
| 14:32.16 | vjeux | instead of just sorting global categories |
| 14:32.35 | ckknight | eh, no, not really |
| 14:33.36 | Fisker | i'm becoming insane :o |
| 14:37.10 | Xtek | Fisker, becoming? |
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| 14:39.11 | Fisker | oh right |
| 14:39.13 | Fisker | already am then :( |
| 14:40.54 | nicoli_s | hey vjeux: do you know how to command a building to build a unit in galaxy? |
| 14:41.24 | HP-X | ckknight: i has low iqs! |
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| 14:44.43 | HP-X | would a subsection under XML be desirable for the UI |
| 14:44.54 | HP-X | since its over 20-30 files in total |
| 14:45.00 | HP-X | although i assume they more or less have same syntax |
| 14:45.05 | HP-X | same buildup |
| 14:49.11 | Astazha | Fisker: all the best people are. |
| 14:50.44 | vjeux | AICast or AITrain or something nicoli_s |
| 14:50.53 | nicoli_s | mmk |
| 14:51.51 | Astazha | AITrain allows you to build a unit at a specific town, I don't think you can specify which building. |
| 14:53.49 | nicoli_s | well in my map the ai will only have one building in one town, so that shouldnt be an issue |
| 14:54.17 | nicoli_s | if you remove the starting points, then the players/comps wont spawn with the starting units right? |
| 14:54.39 | vjeux | just don't call MeleeInitUnits() |
| 14:54.49 | nicoli_s | mmk |
| 14:55.23 | nicoli_s | i so wish i could easily test stuff at home, but coding on a 40 inch tv blows and i cant view starcraft over rdp |
| 14:55.51 | vjeux | buy a new laptop |
| 14:55.53 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by vjeux |
| 14:56.21 | vjeux | just reorganized the function listing |
| 14:56.25 | vjeux | it looks blueish now |
| 14:56.27 | nicoli_s | well itll be cheaper for me to just buy an actual monitor for my home comp |
| 14:56.33 | nicoli_s | instead of using my tv |
| 15:01.38 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by vjeux |
| 15:02.14 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by vjeux |
| 15:03.07 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by vjeux |
| 15:03.11 | nicoli_s | so many functions related to nukes |
| 15:03.22 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/string-to-text/ by vjeux |
| 15:04.08 | vjeux | yep |
| 15:04.23 | Hunter_Killers | i would imagine they can be used for other calldown effects |
| 15:06.09 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by vjeux |
| 15:06.30 | vjeux | AISetNukeRadiusClose, AISetNukeRadiusMedium, AISetNukeRadiusFar |
| 15:06.33 | vjeux | OK, 3 functions :p |
| 15:06.56 | nicoli_s | theres like a dozen |
| 15:06.57 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.57 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.57 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.57 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.57 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.57 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.58 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.58 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.59 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.59 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.00 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.00 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.11 | vjeux | yeah just ordered them |
| 15:07.18 | vjeux | but all of them are pretty much useless |
| 15:07.24 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 15:07.33 | vjeux | set(damage, radius, nuke, ghost, cloak) |
| 15:07.36 | vjeux | one function :p |
| 15:08.24 | vjeux | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1867/ |
| 15:08.29 | vjeux | look at how they are being used |
| 15:09.29 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 15:10.33 | vjeux | there are way too much AI functions |
| 15:10.39 | vjeux | it's even hard to categorize them |
| 15:13.16 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by vjeux |
| 15:17.13 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/aifind-units/ by vjeux |
| 15:20.47 | vjeux | do you remember what is mishlai nick on irc? |
| 15:23.49 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/world-of-warcraft-3-3-3-released/ |
| 15:24.21 | Astazha | <-Mishlai |
| 15:25.25 | vjeux | oh ok |
| 15:25.30 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/aifind-units/ |
| 15:25.42 | vjeux | is that strictly equivalent to UnitGroupUnit? |
| 15:26.47 | Astazha | Hmmm... UnitGroupUnit() returns one unit from a unitgroup. But I'm not sure about the UnitGroup() function you have there. I've never used that. |
| 15:26.58 | vjeux | UnitGroup sorry |
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| 15:27.59 | Astazha | it's probably the same just from looking at the definition, except that UnitGroup uses a region and has the filter as a parameter |
| 15:28.25 | vjeux | well, RegionCircle makes a region from center and radius |
| 15:28.38 | Astazha | right, I agree that that part is equivalent |
| 15:28.39 | vjeux | what does it have to do with AI ... |
| 15:28.53 | vjeux | maybe it's only limited to a line of sight or something |
| 15:29.09 | vjeux | but there is only 1 player |
| 15:29.32 | Astazha | I don't understand what you're saying. |
| 15:30.53 | Astazha | I wonder if aliases work with UnitGroup. Probably not, I think they were designed for the Stock functions. |
| 15:31.17 | vjeux | well, maybe it is all units that are being seen by a player at that point |
| 15:32.01 | Astazha | I know that AIFindUnits will only return the units owned by player |
| 15:32.12 | Astazha | because if you want to grab neutral units you have to specify player 0 |
| 15:32.18 | Astazha | like mineral piles, etc. |
| 15:32.26 | vjeux | ok |
| 15:32.32 | vjeux | so there's no differences ... |
| 15:33.00 | Astazha | just the filter option in UnitGroup, and that it takes a region whereas AIFindUnit won't. |
| 15:33.07 | Astazha | or maybe we're missing something else. |
| 15:33.50 | Astazha | Also.. with AIFindUnit you can enter a null string for type and it will grab everything in range. |
| 15:34.02 | vjeux | same for unitgroup |
| 15:34.07 | Astazha | k |
| 15:34.18 | vjeux | well, why the same function would be name with AI and not with AI :p |
| 15:35.02 | Astazha | The API may not be particularly well though out at this point. It's not like they shipped Beta with a campaign or any meaningful computer players. |
| 15:35.18 | Astazha | *thought* |
| 15:36.01 | vjeux | M0 |
| 15:36.08 | vjeux | :) |
| 15:36.21 | Astazha | M0? |
| 15:36.59 | vjeux | :) in azerty in a qwerty keyboard |
| 15:37.25 | HP-X | why use azerty! |
| 15:37.28 | HP-X | blasphemy |
| 15:37.41 | Astazha | never tried a non-qwerty |
| 15:37.42 | vjeux | because i'm french |
| 15:37.56 | nicoli_s | silly non querty users |
| 15:37.58 | Astazha | brb |
| 15:38.00 | vjeux | doing accents éà... is impossible in qwerty |
| 15:38.12 | nicoli_s | well then dont use them :P |
| 15:38.19 | nicoli_s | our language does fine without them, yers should too |
| 15:38.46 | vjeux | :p |
| 15:39.06 | HP-X | á è |
| 15:39.09 | HP-X | w qwerty |
| 15:39.13 | HP-X | nub |
| 15:39.37 | ckknight | éà|
| 15:39.45 | ckknight | qwerty here |
| 15:39.55 | ckknight | option-e, e, option-`, a |
| 15:40.29 | HP-X | well guys we did it |
| 15:40.37 | HP-X | vjeux: is now crying for being bullied on the internet :( |
| 15:41.08 | Chrono^ | Swedish keyboards (qwerty) loves all these accentthings `´^¨ :< |
| 15:41.20 | HP-X | omg chrono is a swedefag like me |
| 15:41.26 | HP-X | *high fives* |
| 15:42.43 | Chrono^ | hi5! |
| 15:43.23 | ckknight | Sweden, the country tea-bagging Europe |
| 15:43.42 | vjeux | I need to make a script to count the number of documented functions / total |
| 15:46.52 | Astazha | back |
| 15:54.16 | nicoli_s | hopefully ill have some time after my gf passes out tonight to work on my map some more |
| 15:54.29 | vjeux | :) |
| 15:54.44 | vjeux | the base defense? |
| 15:55.34 | nicoli_s | yah |
| 15:55.47 | nicoli_s | started on it a bit last night, but havent been able to test yet |
| 15:55.58 | vjeux | nice |
| 15:56.15 | HP-X | ckknight: indeed! :p |
| 15:56.24 | nicoli_s | triggers are multi threaded right? so i can have the one timer trigger going for the game loop, and then have another trigger that will catch chat text right? |
| 15:56.33 | vjeux | using Wait() creates a new thread |
| 15:56.41 | vjeux | but triggers are not multithreaded |
| 15:57.18 | vjeux | but yeah you can do that |
| 15:57.48 | nicoli_s | mmk |
| 15:58.05 | nicoli_s | i just wanted to be sure i could safely share variables between the two |
| 15:58.17 | vjeux | yeah you can |
| 15:58.30 | nicoli_s | since ill use the chat one to set how many/what type of units to build, and build them in the game loop if they arent there |
| 15:58.54 | vjeux | you could just build them as soon as the user types them ... ? |
| 15:59.16 | vjeux | and set the rally point of the building to the player base |
| 15:59.48 | nicoli_s | yah thatd prob work too |
| 15:59.58 | nicoli_s | but does the rally point stuff make it a move or an attack move? |
| 16:00.03 | nicoli_s | and i want them to all attack in a wave |
| 16:00.36 | vjeux | dunno |
| 16:12.15 | Ackis | ~lart vjeux |
| 16:12.15 | purl | pushes the wall down onto vjeux whilst whistling innocently |
| 16:12.26 | Ackis | Way to delete ;) |
| 16:14.09 | vjeux | :p |
| 16:14.17 | vjeux | you posted it on sc2mapster as well |
| 16:14.23 | vjeux | that's a shame! |
| 16:14.30 | Ackis | you have the choice of posting on one site or all |
| 16:14.42 | Ackis | so it's on warhammer, rom, aoc, hon, etc as well |
| 16:14.54 | Ackis | probably could do with some revision (the posting system that is) |
| 16:17.40 | vjeux | gotta go |
| 16:17.42 | vjeux | cya later |
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| 16:21.47 | Bifuu | Morning people |
| 16:27.12 | HP-X | morning Bifuu |
| 16:29.22 | Bifuu | bbl gatta run some errands |
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| 16:30.35 | Astazha | out for now |
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| 16:31.41 | Sixen | Rawr and so forth. |
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| 16:50.29 | Sixen | Morning, ;) |
| 16:51.35 | Corbo | more like afternoon |
| 16:51.41 | Corbo | it's almost 12pm |
| 16:52.19 | Sixen | 10am here;p |
| 16:52.37 | Corbo | I lie |
| 16:52.42 | Corbo | it's 10:52 |
| 16:52.50 | Corbo | but still, totally skipped the morning |
| 16:53.15 | Sixen | lol |
| 16:53.25 | Corbo | and I want breakfast |
| 16:53.28 | Corbo | but it's so late now |
| 16:54.24 | Sixen | Brunch ftw? |
| 16:54.35 | nicoli_s | mmm i cant wait for lunch |
| 16:54.38 | nicoli_s | delicious mexican |
| 16:55.05 | HP-X | sixen, were you going to check the ui xmls? |
| 16:55.38 | ckknight | I wouldn't call it mexican |
| 16:55.42 | Sixen | Yar. |
| 16:55.47 | ckknight | I'd call it "an ode to Mexican food" |
| 16:56.24 | Corbo | brunch? |
| 16:56.30 | Corbo | I approve, brb then :P |
| 16:57.05 | nicoli_s | its like taco bell if taco bell food didnt also destroy your intestines and tasted better |
| 16:58.15 | Sixen | Heh |
| 17:01.16 | Sixen | starcraft2forum.org posted news about us now to |
| 17:01.21 | Sixen | too* |
| 17:01.53 | Zoxc | Sixen posted "news" about sc2mapster on most forums I read |
| 17:02.29 | Corbo | He didn't on corboland, though. |
| 17:03.51 | Sixen | Corboland, sounds like my kinda place. |
| 17:06.42 | Corbo | does anybody have a copy of EXE2MPQ? |
| 17:07.37 | Sixen | http://w3tools.deepnode.de/ |
| 17:07.43 | Sixen | That? |
| 17:08.15 | Corbo | maybe |
| 17:08.34 | Sixen | :o |
| 17:09.09 | Corbo | though I'm looking for a SECWAD extractor one |
| 17:12.56 | Sixen | hrm |
| 17:14.33 | Sixen | "This patch allows you to place units on the map that are not normally placable on the map and place buildings on any terrain." orly? |
| 17:14.42 | Sixen | Didn't know we could place buildings on water? |
| 17:14.44 | nicoli_s | link? |
| 17:14.52 | nicoli_s | they prob just removed the buildings pathing |
| 17:15.13 | Sixen | From SC1 |
| 17:15.22 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 17:15.55 | Corbo | lol that easy |
| 17:16.11 | Corbo | You guys didn't do SC1 modding, right? |
| 17:16.24 | Sixen | I didn't, I only did mapping. |
| 17:16.59 | ckknight | I did maps in SC1 |
| 17:17.19 | nicoli_s | i did a few, but i got into wc3 modding right after |
| 17:25.48 | lapin_sc | i remebmer that marine map... were you had to kill cerebrates or something |
| 17:26.38 | Sixen | =o |
| 17:32.56 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tower-defence-x/. Tower defence X. zuraneru (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 17:33.15 | HP-X | dark angel mod for sc1 was win |
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| 18:03.35 | Astazha | Sixen: I've created a new user named Astazha on the sc2mapster to avoid name confusion. How do I create a project for the Overmind AI? |
| 18:03.56 | Sixen | I cuold've renamed mishlai to astazha |
| 18:04.02 | Astazha | Oh. |
| 18:04.03 | Sixen | So you keep your posts and stuff. |
| 18:04.09 | Astazha | That would be good. |
| 18:04.36 | Astazha | I'm signed out of both if that helps. |
| 18:05.36 | Bifuu | Annnnnnnnnnd im back |
| 18:05.40 | Sixen | wb bif |
| 18:05.49 | Sixen | Astazha, want me to dlete your new acct and renameo ld? |
| 18:05.54 | Astazha | Yes please. |
| 18:06.13 | Sixen | Sure thing. |
| 18:06.14 | Sixen | Se . |
| 18:06.15 | Sixen | c |
| 18:07.35 | Fisker | exe2mpq? ;E |
| 18:08.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster profet (~profet02@bac69-5-82-234-230-177.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:11.05 | Bifuu | 13% of the way to buying me a laptop xD 14 weeks to go >.< |
| 18:11.58 | Sixen | =] |
| 18:13.08 | HP-X | i bought a laptop, now ive waited 3 weeks for a new fan |
| 18:13.15 | Sixen | Hrm |
| 18:13.19 | HP-X | int core duo w 8600gt mobile |
| 18:13.20 | Sixen | I'll have to get ckk to do it. |
| 18:13.24 | HP-X | should be able to mod on that |
| 18:13.26 | Sixen | Just use Mishlai for now if you want to keep your posts and stuff |
| 18:13.42 | Astazha | Ok. How do I create a new project? |
| 18:14.21 | Sixen | "Create Project" :P |
| 18:14.25 | Sixen | Top-right, under the search |
| 18:14.36 | Bifuu | the laptop im looking at has an i7 in it xD with a uhh |
| 18:14.59 | Astazha | Maybe I don't have those permissions? |
| 18:15.01 | Bifuu | NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M |
| 18:15.07 | Bifuu | 6 gigs of ram |
| 18:15.14 | Astazha | nvm |
| 18:15.22 | Bifuu | 7200RPM harddrive |
| 18:15.25 | Bifuu | its yummy |
| 18:16.28 | Bifuu | ..... so one of my friends just sent me a text |
| 18:16.42 | Bifuu | "you know i wonder why blizzard doesnt have a Varian Wrynn statue" |
| 18:22.38 | ckknight | hey Astazha, what have you done with Mishlai on our network? |
| 18:23.04 | Sixen | Posts, Wiki, and a Project now |
| 18:24.11 | Astazha | ckknight: just a few updates to some of the API functions and just created the Overmind project. |
| 18:24.31 | Astazha | I take it changing the name is hard? |
| 18:24.35 | ckknight | yes. |
| 18:24.38 | ckknight | liek woah |
| 18:24.42 | ckknight | we have a central auth system |
| 18:24.44 | Astazha | I don't care about losing those posts, it's no big. |
| 18:24.46 | ckknight | so there's some complications |
| 18:24.49 | ckknight | nah, it's all good. |
| 18:24.56 | Astazha | I just want my name on the Overmind project to be Astazha |
| 18:25.19 | Bifuu | on last afk then its xml time, brb |
| 18:25.25 | ckknight | Astazha: k, don't use Mishlai anymore. |
| 18:25.42 | Astazha | ok... I just created Overmind with Mishlai... do I need to delete it or something? |
| 18:25.46 | ckknight | no |
| 18:25.51 | ckknight | from here on out, don't use Mishlai |
| 18:25.56 | Astazha | ok |
| 18:26.55 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/overmind/. Overmind. Mishlai (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 18:27.44 | Astazha | Sweet. Thanks. |
| 18:29.21 | ckknight | Astazha: wth, did you mean to put it under 3D Models? |
| 18:29.33 | Sixen | Er |
| 18:30.22 | Astazha | ckknight: definitely not. I thought I only had AI and Galaxy Scripts checked. |
| 18:31.18 | Astazha | Error in the code maybe? I'm editing project now and 3d Models isn't checked. |
| 18:35.32 | Bifuu | You still arnt finished with mover data corbo?! |
| 18:38.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ingela- (~Ingela@90-230-173-174-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 18:38.27 | ckknight | Astazha: ah, you chose Units |
| 18:38.32 | ckknight | which was underneath 3D Models |
| 18:39.44 | Sixen | brb, gotta change classes. |
| 18:39.46 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@149.169.114.142) |
| 18:41.33 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/button-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 18:42.23 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/button-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 18:44.12 | Astazha | ckknight: ok |
| 18:46.28 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/upgrade-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 18:46.41 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/upgrade-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 18:51.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Remy_ (~5ed309d4@gateway/web/freenode/x-rycrjvoyxrccpsub) |
| 18:51.43 | Remy_ | hey Astazha thanks for reporting the bug |
| 18:51.57 | Astazha | sure thing, thanks very much for developing the pre-compiler |
| 18:52.17 | Remy_ | I saw you were working on a nice AI |
| 18:52.38 | Remy_ | seemed quite eh.. how do you say it.. the goals are difficult to achieve! |
| 18:52.41 | Astazha | I am. It's going to be a while, but I want to create something fundamentally different from the other AI we're seeing right now. |
| 18:52.58 | Remy_ | so zerg |
| 18:52.59 | Remy_ | sounds good |
| 18:53.05 | Remy_ | no race as cool as the zerg |
| 18:53.09 | Astazha | Random selection of Build Order != AI ; ) |
| 18:53.11 | Bifuu | LIES |
| 18:53.16 | Remy_ | they're very mobile and expansive |
| 18:53.32 | Remy_ | well that's just my opinion btw |
| 18:53.46 | Bifuu | lol ill agree Zerg is prolly the hardest to do AI for |
| 18:53.47 | Remy_ | yeah making an RTS AI is notoriously hard |
| 18:53.49 | Astazha | Yeah. If being the only race that can't wall in doesn't tell you that you're supposed to be aggressive then I don't know what does ; ) |
| 18:54.12 | Bifuu | Wall in with spawning pools xD |
| 18:54.16 | Remy_ | I'm looking forward to seeing more progress ^^ |
| 18:54.21 | Remy_ | so you actually used my tool ? |
| 18:54.21 | Bifuu | that would tkae forever tho |
| 18:54.26 | Bifuu | to get creep over to the ramp |
| 18:54.26 | Astazha | I really think Zerg needs it's own AI because of the Hatchery/larva thing. Using a standard AI with Zerg units couldn't be optimal |
| 18:54.44 | Remy_ | doesn't every race need a specialized AI :S |
| 18:54.51 | Astazha | Remy: I only tried it briefly because it wouldn't compile my working code. |
| 18:54.55 | Remy_ | yeah okay |
| 18:55.04 | Remy_ | so the =-1 was the only issue you noticed? |
| 18:55.07 | Remy_ | I fixed that now |
| 18:55.10 | Astazha | I'll try it again |
| 18:55.19 | Remy_ | ehm right gotta upload a new binary then :S |
| 18:55.22 | Remy_ | just fixed the code |
| 18:55.25 | Astazha | k ; ) |
| 18:55.42 | Remy_ | It's annoying that every binary that I upload needs to be validated by some moderator or something |
| 18:56.31 | Bifuu | Oh question, anyone have any idea what Blizzard might mean by RangeSlop and ArcSlop? |
| 18:56.39 | Astazha | Well, they can't have some schmo uploading viruses & people thinking that Curse infected them or something... |
| 18:56.46 | Bifuu | maybe slop is some mathmatical term i dont know yet or something |
| 18:57.06 | Astazha | Bifuu: sounds like a window. Like range 10 with slop 2 might be 8-12 or something like that. |
| 18:57.13 | Astazha | or 9-11 |
| 18:57.37 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 18:57.42 | Astazha | what's the context? |
| 18:57.50 | Bifuu | there is no context lol |
| 18:57.55 | Bifuu | its just a node in the xml |
| 18:58.01 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.01 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.01 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.11 | Remy_ | I actually need some more galaxy code to test my tool on |
| 18:58.17 | Astazha | hmm. |
| 18:58.28 | Remy_ | best code uses the galaxy language to its fullest |
| 18:58.45 | Bifuu | its one of those things i dont know yet so its an unknown in documentation |
| 18:58.47 | Remy_ | so I should download your AI and rip te code^^ |
| 18:58.50 | Astazha | Remy: I could send you what I've written so far. |
| 18:58.59 | Remy_ | is it already online? |
| 18:59.23 | Zoxc | Remy_: try this http://pastebin.com/D0VgaM8q |
| 19:00.09 | Remy_ | okay thanks |
| 19:00.10 | Astazha | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=815EJMDZ is the last MPQ of mine. It's the Starcrack AI plus my files: ZergOvermind.galaxy, ZergOvermindIntel.galaxy, and ZergOvermindData.galaxy. That MPQ will run in SC2 so it shouldn't fail to compile. |
| 19:01.37 | Astazha | Or there are several pastebins in the darkblizz Overmind thread but the files have interdependency so just one alone would throw errors |
| 19:02.30 | Remy_ | I only tested for the simple i =-1 case; but did upload a new binary |
| 19:02.39 | Remy_ | I'll test for the new code samples tomorrow or so |
| 19:02.44 | Remy_ | gotta do some school chores |
| 19:02.51 | Remy_ | (working on another compiler) |
| 19:03.08 | Astazha | K. I'll probably try it later tonight myself. Just doing some initial page creation for Overmind on Mapster right now. |
| 19:03.15 | Remy_ | okay |
| 19:03.16 | Remy_ | goodluck! |
| 19:03.22 | Astazha | Thank you sir. |
| 19:07.36 | Bifuu | Oh i have a random general questiona bout Galaxy code, is Fixed something just for Galaxy or is it used in other languages? i just seems weird they would use that instead of a float |
| 19:07.43 | Bifuu | i have never seen it before |
| 19:08.15 | Astazha | Well, I think float allows you to move the decimal around so that you have a certain number of significant digits to work with regardless of magnitude |
| 19:08.21 | Astazha | and I assume fixed does not do that |
| 19:08.28 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 19:08.50 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 19:09.43 | Bifuu | I think fixed can do that i think i read about it in the api actually let me see |
| 19:10.10 | Zoxc | fixed is usually done using int in lower level languages, and it just isn't used in high level onces |
| 19:11.32 | Bifuu | oh so it actally does exist outside of galaxy? lol |
| 19:11.57 | Zoxc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-point_arithmetic |
| 19:12.15 | Bifuu | Oops! Google Chrome could not find en.wikipedia.org |
| 19:12.15 | Bifuu | Try reloading: en. wikipedia. org/ wiki/ Fixed- point_arithmetic |
| 19:12.19 | Bifuu | lol |
| 19:12.39 | Bifuu | Firefox can't find the server at en.wikipedia.org. |
| 19:12.41 | Bifuu | =/ |
| 19:12.41 | Zoxc | wiki is down :( |
| 19:12.59 | Astazha | Don't see that much. |
| 19:13.37 | Bifuu | how can wikipedia be down?! the world! its ending! |
| 19:14.48 | Ackis | some servers shut down to overheating problems which directed traffic to another datacentre and they're getting bogged down with DNS lookups mehtinks |
| 19:14.52 | Ackis | or gnomes |
| 19:15.28 | Zoxc | the other half of the earth is destroyed, which contained the servers that were hosting wikipedia |
| 19:19.49 | Astazha | I think our children will look back on these days and say "Remember when life could go on without the internet and people didn't have redundant servers and connectivity for everything?" |
| 19:20.19 | Astazha | Or maybe they won't. We still operate with non-redundant electricity to our homes. |
| 19:21.16 | Zoxc | I'm not really planning to have any children in 2012 |
| 19:21.52 | nicoli_s | cuz oh nos the mayan calendar ends then and death and destruction! |
| 19:21.54 | nicoli_s | that movie said so! |
| 19:21.56 | Astazha | Eh. The Armageddon of 2012 will be the biggest disappointment since the Armageddone of y2k. |
| 19:22.14 | Bifuu | The best armageddon was the movie |
| 19:22.23 | Zoxc | Diablo III will be released, and thus the world will end |
| 19:24.26 | nicoli_s | i just think its funny that real mayan people dont believe in 2012 |
| 19:24.45 | Bifuu | lol |
| 19:24.57 | Bifuu | Is it a bad thing im like rocking out to a Selena Gomez song? |
| 19:25.08 | nicoli_s | i dont know who that is, but yes |
| 19:25.18 | Bifuu | i dont know either |
| 19:25.22 | Bifuu | thats why ima sking |
| 19:25.28 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:25.31 | Bifuu | http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Naturally/2q3cyb |
| 19:25.33 | Bifuu | that song |
| 19:25.35 | nicoli_s | though i am listening to some latin music atm |
| 19:25.45 | Shirik | why is everyone talking about how WP is down? |
| 19:25.50 | Shirik | It's not, you just fail at using a good DNS |
| 19:26.12 | Bifuu | im too lazy to worry about a dns |
| 19:26.14 | nicoli_s | i use manual dns |
| 19:26.25 | nicoli_s | when i need to resolve something, i just ask people on the street till i get my answer |
| 19:26.38 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:26.57 | Shirik | well for your manual DNSing |
| 19:26.59 | Shirik | 208.80.152.2 en.wikipedia.org |
| 19:27.01 | Shirik | glhf |
| 19:27.30 | Astazha | lololol |
| 19:27.41 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/constants/ability-flag/ by Bifuu |
| 19:27.57 | Astazha | Some dorky part of me has always wanted to keep a list of key web IP's so I could get to them when DNS is down. |
| 19:28.00 | Bifuu | if anyone is bored go to that page and look for duplicates =P |
| 19:28.08 | Astazha | This is what I'm listening to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0PGK7a2IFo |
| 19:29.17 | Ackis | hey Shirik wikipedia is down |
| 19:29.22 | Shirik | hey Ackis |
| 19:29.23 | Shirik | go die |
| 19:29.30 | Ackis | I've tried :( |
| 19:29.34 | Bifuu | OMFG ITS DOWN! |
| 19:29.59 | Astazha | Quick, go argue on the internet and ask for sources! |
| 19:30.24 | Bifuu | lol |
| 19:30.25 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:33.37 | Bifuu | i wonder how many research papers that are due tomorrow will not be done |
| 19:40.06 | nicoli_s | haha |
| 19:41.15 | Astazha | So I was expecting that if I [[linked]] to project pages that didn't exist yet that they would show up red... |
| 19:43.41 | Bifuu | they do |
| 19:43.49 | Bifuu | well they should |
| 19:43.56 | Bifuu | how are you linking |
| 19:44.00 | Astazha | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/overmind/pages/main/ |
| 19:44.08 | Astazha | The only page that exists among those is DataCollection |
| 19:44.21 | HP-X | hahaha longtime since i watched that Astazha |
| 19:44.23 | Astazha | I'm using [[linkpage|Link Text]] |
| 19:44.26 | HP-X | its made of weird and fun |
| 19:44.36 | Astazha | HP: I love the sound of it |
| 19:44.58 | HP-X | hmmm |
| 19:45.02 | HP-X | i has more shadow art |
| 19:45.06 | HP-X | anime:ish |
| 19:45.22 | Bifuu | Oh its because its not a Wiki page |
| 19:45.33 | Astazha | Ok, well I'll just unlink them until they exist. |
| 19:45.41 | Bifuu | the project pages will say they exist but to people that dont have access it says we dont have permission to see them |
| 19:45.49 | HP-X | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sib2L6A6xgw |
| 19:45.51 | HP-X | that one |
| 19:47.09 | HP-X | for some reason it reminds me of noir intro song |
| 19:47.33 | Bifuu | Who did the original Unitdata page? |
| 19:47.40 | HP-X | you! |
| 19:47.46 | Bifuu | wasnt me |
| 19:47.54 | HP-X | computerpunk |
| 19:47.56 | HP-X | according to page |
| 19:48.15 | Bifuu | ah |
| 19:48.31 | Bifuu | Now why did he not tell me about the core xml files >.< i blame him now instead of corbo! lol |
| 19:49.14 | HP-X | :p |
| 19:49.31 | Astazha | HP: I don't think I've seen CG done like that before. I like it. |
| 19:50.21 | HP-X | :) |
| 19:50.23 | HP-X | yeah |
| 19:50.25 | Bifuu | if you like RnB http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Nothin+On+You+Feat+Bruno+Mars+/2uqneM listen to that O.o |
| 19:50.41 | HP-X | will listen to it later |
| 19:50.47 | HP-X | since its 15 min til work ends |
| 19:50.51 | HP-X | and im of the phone |
| 19:51.01 | HP-X | im just playing i wanna go home w sator and uhm |
| 19:51.09 | HP-X | going insane with infected mushroom |
| 19:51.17 | HP-X | both songs representing what goes on in my mind atm |
| 19:53.15 | Bifuu | lol |
| 19:54.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@149.169.238.149) |
| 19:54.13 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 19:55.44 | nicoli_s | silly RnB listeners |
| 19:56.16 | Sixen | keke |
| 19:56.18 | Fisker | slaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:56.50 | Astazha | I think "keke" entertains me more than any other meme. |
| 19:56.53 | Bifuu | I listen to everything |
| 20:00.50 | nicoli_s | same here bifuu |
| 20:01.43 | Sixen | I only listen to Rap/Hip-hop. |
| 20:01.45 | Sixen | That's how I roll. |
| 20:03.00 | Astazha | I love Young Money's Bedrock more than any sane person should. Ditto for I'm On A Boat. |
| 20:03.26 | nicoli_s | lol that im on a boat song is pretty humorous |
| 20:03.41 | nicoli_s | i think the flight of the conchords are funnier in terms of parody music though |
| 20:03.49 | Astazha | Haven't seen that one. |
| 20:04.01 | Astazha | Or heard as the case may be... |
| 20:04.08 | nicoli_s | they are great |
| 20:04.26 | nicoli_s | they are 2 new zealanders, and they can pretty much do a parody of any musical genre |
| 20:04.46 | nicoli_s | like check out their song Jenny, fucking hilarious |
| 20:05.57 | Bifuu | Astazha: seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIFJzHgCuTc |
| 20:06.31 | Computerpunk | HP-X, yes, I did the original page. |
| 20:06.37 | Computerpunk | But, I'm pretty busy lately. |
| 20:07.05 | Bifuu | im fixing it now Computer |
| 20:07.08 | Computerpunk | kk. |
| 20:07.11 | Computerpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.14 | Bifuu | you used the Core xmls? |
| 20:07.14 | Computerpunk | Gotta learn some riffs. |
| 20:07.18 | Computerpunk | Yep. |
| 20:07.19 | Bifuu | and never told me about em!? |
| 20:07.23 | Bifuu | QQ to you good sir |
| 20:07.42 | nicoli_s | core xmls? |
| 20:07.57 | Astazha | Bifuu: lol, no |
| 20:09.12 | Computerpunk | Well, there were installer files with XML data. |
| 20:09.13 | Computerpunk | So yuh. |
| 20:09.13 | Bifuu | nic: the data files in Mods\Core.SC2Mod |
| 20:09.13 | Astazha | Wonderlust King is a fav of mine too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elyQ4ShVw-Y Gogol Bordello is crazy-awesome. |
| 20:10.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:10.26 | Sixen | I'm On A Boat. |
| 20:10.27 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 20:10.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Shaki (~boop_777@49-42-141.wireless.iaw.on.ca) |
| 20:10.41 | Shaki | Hello! |
| 20:10.55 | Sixen | Bedrock is a good song though, yeah. |
| 20:11.08 | Bifuu | Hi Shaki |
| 20:11.15 | Bifuu | and Bedrock gets stuck in my head |
| 20:11.44 | Bifuu | and for somereason everytime i listen to it i also act out Nicki's part >.> her voice is like so high pitched |
| 20:11.56 | Bifuu | so its like needed to be done |
| 20:12.21 | Shaki | bedrock? |
| 20:12.26 | Shaki | Who's the band |
| 20:12.26 | Bifuu | the song |
| 20:12.32 | Bifuu | Young Money |
| 20:12.52 | Astazha | Bedrock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha80ZaecGkQ |
| 20:12.54 | Bifuu | (Its Rap/Hip Hop) |
| 20:13.00 | nicoli_s | biffu: whats special about the core xml files |
| 20:13.07 | Bifuu | alot |
| 20:13.16 | nicoli_s | if you like rap, check out dead prez |
| 20:13.24 | Bifuu | Its all the default values and its the parents |
| 20:13.32 | nicoli_s | ahhh very cool |
| 20:13.35 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 20:13.40 | Sixen | Heh, no doubt Bif. She's the only girl in the song too :p |
| 20:13.43 | Bifuu | its like OOP for the XML files |
| 20:13.44 | Shaki | meh |
| 20:13.47 | Shaki | rap is meh to me |
| 20:13.48 | Shaki | :) |
| 20:13.50 | nicoli_s | also, check out themselves, really good rap |
| 20:13.53 | Sixen | nic, core files are special. |
| 20:13.59 | Sixen | their mommy says so. |
| 20:14.07 | Bifuu | lol |
| 20:14.58 | Bifuu | my favorite Album with Rap is still Collision Course with Jay-Z and Linkin Park |
| 20:15.07 | Bifuu | shits pro |
| 20:15.45 | Shaki | I love the word special |
| 20:15.55 | Shaki | lol, i use it to describe everything. |
| 20:19.02 | Shaki | How is everyone today? |
| 20:19.19 | Shaki | i'm in a good mood. |
| 20:19.38 | ckknight | I'm well |
| 20:20.31 | Bifuu | alright, for now, i think i might be getting sick |
| 20:20.40 | Shaki | ironic |
| 20:20.44 | Bifuu | and not sick as in sneezing and runny noses =/ |
| 20:20.48 | Shaki | when i feel happy you feel sick. |
| 20:21.32 | Shaki | Is the new version of milkyway released yet? jw. |
| 20:21.35 | Bifuu | well damn it go be sick again |
| 20:21.45 | Bifuu | its on the svn |
| 20:21.54 | nicoli_s | yes shaki, there was a new version released last night |
| 20:21.58 | Bifuu | dont ask me how to get to it i dont even know xD |
| 20:21.59 | Shaki | Yippie! |
| 20:22.26 | nicoli_s | lemme know if you have any issues as i didnt super heavily bug test this release |
| 20:22.35 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 20:22.37 | nicoli_s | mainly focused on getting the unit placement/viewing working with the mini map |
| 20:22.38 | Sixen | Nic, sholdak committed something last night. |
| 20:22.44 | Sixen | And i'd still like to add error handling. |
| 20:22.49 | nicoli_s | nice, yeah hes been working on stuff |
| 20:22.53 | Sixen | I was going to last night, never got it to compile. |
| 20:22.54 | Shaki | Biggest suggestion for me, is add command tab. |
| 20:22.58 | nicoli_s | hes going to be helping architect the project more |
| 20:23.09 | nicoli_s | shaki: theres no reason for us to add tabs right now |
| 20:23.12 | Shaki | I would love to make a ghost build thors. |
| 20:23.21 | nicoli_s | the functionality you want will be in prob with the next big release |
| 20:23.25 | Sixen | But uh nic, once I add error handling, i'm going to start on documenting/adding UI Customization to MWE |
| 20:23.27 | Shaki | well, it's just a suggestion it doesnt matter ^^ |
| 20:23.37 | nicoli_s | sure sixen |
| 20:23.56 | Sixen | So if you can finish the general funcionality, like Galaxy/XML editing, I can get started on what future MWE will hold :D |
| 20:24.19 | Sixen | And if you'd rather not turn the project into a GE Addon (for UI Customization), I'll go make my own, :*(. |
| 20:24.44 | Sixen | Because technically, it's your project so.. :p |
| 20:24.49 | Shaki | lol |
| 20:24.52 | nicoli_s | well its not just mine anymore |
| 20:24.56 | Sixen | Truth. |
| 20:24.58 | nicoli_s | its the community's |
| 20:25.00 | Bifuu | imo |
| 20:25.05 | nicoli_s | plus, sholdak is the manager now, not me :P |
| 20:25.08 | Shaki | in your own opinion? |
| 20:25.10 | Sixen | he is? |
| 20:25.18 | Bifuu | Keep developing MWE to be a full map thing, who knows maybe it can be better than glaxy eventually |
| 20:25.30 | Bifuu | just focus on UI stuff first |
| 20:25.34 | Shaki | manager of milkyway? |
| 20:25.50 | Shaki | Yea ^^ what bifuu said :P |
| 20:26.05 | Sixen | well, I doubt it'll be better than GE. Not that i'm doubting our abilities... |
| 20:26.10 | Sixen | But GE has been in the works for years... |
| 20:26.11 | Shaki | brb. |
| 20:26.39 | nicoli_s | well of course it wont be better than GE, but its def possible to develop an editor than can do things GE cant |
| 20:26.41 | Shaki | Back |
| 20:26.41 | Sixen | So i'm thinking if we focus on what GE lacks, we'll be huge. |
| 20:26.54 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 20:26.58 | Sixen | Exactly. Instead of tryign to replace GE, we'll make it something that runs alongside it ;) |
| 20:27.04 | nicoli_s | plus, when people say "hey this feature would be cool" we can implement it in days, as opposed to GE which could take months for a new feature to get down the pipeline |
| 20:27.06 | Shaki | Like an addon |
| 20:27.10 | Sixen | Exactly |
| 20:27.29 | Shaki | Like how in WorldEditor on wc3, you inject jasshelper |
| 20:27.32 | ckknight | the idea is to complement it rather than replace it |
| 20:27.33 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:27.40 | Shaki | and it lets you use things you can't in the normal editor. |
| 20:27.42 | Sixen | Yar. |
| 20:27.51 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 20:28.09 | Sixen | Of course, i'm thinking that'll be version 2.0. |
| 20:28.11 | Shaki | So where would i go to read up on galaxy coding language? |
| 20:28.16 | Shaki | ye |
| 20:28.20 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/sc2-api/ |
| 20:28.32 | Shaki | xD! pretty kitty! |
| 20:28.36 | Bifuu | I bet when Star Edit came out people thought they couldnt make anything better! |
| 20:28.45 | Shaki | i'm notifying you. |
| 20:28.48 | Shaki | I got a 404 xD |
| 20:29.02 | Sixen | er |
| 20:29.06 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/ |
| 20:29.11 | Shaki | :) |
| 20:29.27 | Shaki | hm, where should i start |
| 20:29.37 | Sixen | Functions List |
| 20:29.40 | Shaki | ok |
| 20:29.42 | Sixen | Is everything so far :p |
| 20:29.48 | Shaki | ^^ |
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| 20:30.02 | Shaki | Well, i'm 100% new at galaxy. |
| 20:30.11 | nicoli_s | most everyone is :P |
| 20:30.12 | Shaki | So don't expect me to be knowledgable after this lol. |
| 20:30.13 | FrozenFirebat | hi shaki! |
| 20:30.17 | Shaki | Hi frozen! |
| 20:30.29 | Astazha | Galaxy itself isn't that bad, it's the API that's a bear. |
| 20:30.47 | Shaki | xD |
| 20:31.01 | Shaki | so i'm not gonna respond, reading it all over 2 times. |
| 20:31.11 | FrozenFirebat | So, I just had an idea, but was wondering if it is currently possible to create custom abilities? |
| 20:31.32 | Sixen | Not currently. |
| 20:31.55 | Shaki | Aw |
| 20:31.57 | Sixen | You can change the graphics, we haven't figured out a way [if it's even possible] to make custom effects. |
| 20:31.58 | Bifuu | You can change current ones up to do things that are already defined |
| 20:32.01 | Shaki | i gotta go eat, cya in 20. |
| 20:32.01 | Shaki | %% |
| 20:32.04 | Shaki | ^^* |
| 20:32.06 | Astazha | Shaki: one of the biggest things to realize is that all of the computer players share the same variable space, so if you set a static global it will have the same value for everyone unless you setup a player indexed array. |
| 20:32.34 | Shaki | Astazha |
| 20:32.37 | FrozenFirebat | darn. From what a can gather, though, units have a targetting priority... so I wanted to make an ability that temp increased their target priority. |
| 20:32.39 | Shaki | i just said i have no idea. lol. |
| 20:32.40 | FrozenFirebat | a sort of Taunt. |
| 20:32.48 | Astazha | Shaki: sorry ; ) |
| 20:33.04 | Shaki | Wait till after reading 2 times. Then i'll understand. |
| 20:33.08 | Shaki | Now afk eating ^^ |
| 20:33.26 | Shaki|Mcdonalds- | thats supposed to be a -.- |
| 20:33.27 | Shaki|Mcdonalds- | lol |
| 20:33.40 | FrozenFirebat | Wendys > Mcdonalds |
| 20:33.41 | Astazha | How do you change your name on IRC to indicate afk etc.? |
| 20:33.43 | FrozenFirebat | imo |
| 20:33.44 | Shaki|Mcdonalds- | i know |
| 20:33.50 | Shaki|Mcdonalds- | wendys pwns mcdonalds |
| 20:34.03 | nicoli_s | Astazha: /nick nickname |
| 20:34.04 | Shaki|Away | type /nick YOUNAME|Away |
| 20:34.05 | Shaki|Away | lol |
| 20:34.12 | Astazha | thnx |
| 20:34.32 | Shaki|Away | -- no longer here after this sentence. |
| 20:34.40 | Astazha | lies |
| 20:34.56 | upupand|away | lol |
| 20:36.18 | Bifuu | Sixen |
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| 20:39.13 | Sixen | Bifuu |
| 20:39.25 | Bifuu | SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS |
| 20:39.35 | Astazha | You forgot "Head" |
| 20:39.44 | ckknight | we doing shots, Bifuu? |
| 20:39.54 | Bifuu | yes! |
| 20:39.56 | ckknight | it's kinda the middle of the day here |
| 20:40.02 | ckknight | but I don't wanna feel left out |
| 20:40.13 | Astazha | I might have beer... |
| 20:40.42 | Bifuu | http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Shots+Featuring+Lil+Jon+/2ssga2 <--- Thats what im talking about really that song |
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| 20:40.49 | Bifuu | i listen to it as i do XML |
| 20:40.53 | Bifuu | keeps me awake |
| 20:40.54 | Astazha | Ah Sierra, how I love thee. |
| 20:40.58 | Remy_ | beh i'm having trouble fixing a stupid lexer bug :S |
| 20:41.15 | Astazha | Remy let me know when you've got a binary up for me to poke at |
| 20:41.20 | Sixen | Rofl Bif |
| 20:41.25 | Sixen | I just stream HOT108JAMZ |
| 20:42.36 | Bifuu | well i also just listen to the popular playlist on Grooveshark |
| 20:42.50 | Bifuu | (that site = pro btw, you can just search for any song and it plays) |
| 20:43.43 | nicoli_s | the only good lil jon song is "read a book" |
| 20:43.52 | nicoli_s | read a book mother fucker read a book! |
| 20:44.12 | Sixen | o_o |
| 20:44.28 | Astazha | Buy some land! Buy some land! Fuck spinning rims! |
| 20:46.03 | Sixen | switching classes |
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| 20:48.36 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:50.56 | dusthawk | didn't know that was lil jon lol |
| 20:51.43 | Bifuu | Sc2Mapster: Your source of SC2 Mapping, modding, and Rap music! |
| 20:51.52 | Remy_ | egh Zoxc could you link me that paste again? |
| 20:51.58 | Remy_ | I copied it badly and lost the link |
| 20:52.41 | Zoxc | http://pastebin.com/D0VgaM8q |
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| 20:57.25 | Bifuu | See Sixen, thats why you log out so when you fold up your laptop you can log back in with the right name when you come back |
| 20:57.39 | Sixen1 | Damn right ;) |
| 20:57.48 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 21:01.41 | Sixen | Mapster Rap Docs ;) |
| 21:02.11 | Sixen | nicoli_s: Is the runtime 4.0 only for vs2010? Or is it also for 2008? |
| 21:02.31 | Sixen | Or is it referring to .NET Framework? |
| 21:04.24 | nicoli_s | its referring to the .net framework, but i havent done any stuff with 4.0 yet |
| 21:04.45 | nicoli_s | if ive learned anything working with microsoft projects, is that cutting edge stuff is always buggy |
| 21:04.57 | Bifuu | lol |
| 21:05.06 | Bifuu | iw as just about to ask if 2010 is usable yet |
| 21:05.14 | Bifuu | for that same reason |
| 21:05.54 | Sixen | Hrm |
| 21:05.58 | Sixen | What OS do you run, nic? |
| 21:06.09 | Sixen | I'm on Win7, it runs 4.0 by default. |
| 21:06.19 | nicoli_s | ive heard its gotten much better, but i had coworkers who tried to use vs2010 for a project and it ended up being a huge mistake |
| 21:06.29 | nicoli_s | sixen: at work, windows server 2008 |
| 21:06.36 | nicoli_s | at home: 7, both 64 bit |
| 21:06.48 | Sixen | and you can run it from home? |
| 21:07.13 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 21:07.29 | Zoxc | 2010 = bad fonts |
| 21:07.32 | nicoli_s | i think youd be better off just getting 2k8 and just do a fresh checkout honestly man |
| 21:07.57 | Sixen | I downloaded the build straight off mapster |
| 21:08.09 | Sixen | Same error |
| 21:08.28 | Bifuu | What is it? |
| 21:08.40 | Bifuu | like |
| 21:08.45 | Bifuu | what do you do to make it error? |
| 21:08.46 | nicoli_s | well yeah sixen, but we cant really debug the error properly until you can compile and run the code |
| 21:08.46 | Sixen | FileLoadException |
| 21:08.52 | nicoli_s | and then you can give me the exact line number and such |
| 21:08.54 | Sixen | It compiles, nic. |
| 21:09.02 | Sixen | It errors when running. |
| 21:09.05 | nicoli_s | well then run it in debug mode and tell me the line number |
| 21:09.09 | Bifuu | Does that happen when you load the TD? |
| 21:09.14 | Sixen | any map. |
| 21:09.16 | Bifuu | oh |
| 21:09.25 | Bifuu | i only got an error like that with the TD |
| 21:09.25 | nicoli_s | bifuu: i found the bug with it erroring on loading the td |
| 21:09.35 | nicoli_s | was because some element didnt have any attributes |
| 21:09.37 | Bifuu | oh oh oh |
| 21:09.41 | nicoli_s | committed the fix |
| 21:09.43 | Bifuu | dang |
| 21:09.51 | nicoli_s | dunno if the latest release has that code or not |
| 21:09.52 | Sixen | I'll re-checkout and see tonight when i'm home. |
| 21:09.53 | Bifuu | i thought it was a period |
| 21:09.57 | Bifuu | that was fucking it up |
| 21:09.57 | Sixen | Does vista use .NET 4.0? |
| 21:10.23 | nicoli_s | .net 4.0 isnt in a releasable state yet i dont think |
| 21:10.25 | Bifuu | people still use Vista? |
| 21:10.26 | Bifuu | xD |
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| 21:13.25 | ckknight | .NET 4.0 is in RC, pretty sure |
| 21:14.14 | Sixen | hrm? |
| 21:14.19 | Sixen | How does 7 have .NET 4.0 then? |
| 21:14.29 | Sixen | I'm on 7x64 as well and I |
| 21:14.32 | Sixen | get that error |
| 21:14.54 | Sixen | Not sure why I hit enter halfway through the sentence. |
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| 21:16.40 | nicoli_s | sixen: plenty of other people are running it fine without issues, so it must be something weird particualr to you |
| 21:16.45 | nicoli_s | do you know how to use the debugger? |
| 21:17.01 | Sixen | :( |
| 21:17.04 | nicoli_s | in VS, at the top where it says debug, click it, then start debugging |
| 21:17.10 | Sixen | Yeah, that's how I ran it |
| 21:17.13 | Sixen | Didn't spit out any error |
| 21:17.17 | nicoli_s | then when it crashes, it will give you the option to go into the source |
| 21:17.35 | Sixen | Well, I had it handle the FileLoadException error. |
| 21:17.45 | nicoli_s | well just tell me the line number |
| 21:17.47 | Sixen | Mmk |
| 21:17.48 | nicoli_s | then i can fix it |
| 21:17.58 | Sixen | I'll be home in a few hours. |
| 21:18.10 | Sixen | Hopefully by 4. |
| 21:18.16 | Bifuu | its 5! |
| 21:18.21 | Sixen | (it's 2 now if you're in Alabama) |
| 21:18.33 | nicoli_s | lol no it isnt |
| 21:18.37 | nicoli_s | its 4:20 |
| 21:18.41 | Sixen | Er |
| 21:18.43 | Bifuu | lol |
| 21:18.55 | Sixen | For ME, it's 2pm, in case you're in 'bama where the time is different. |
| 21:19.02 | vjeux | 10.18 ... |
| 21:19.06 | Sixen | 11.19 |
| 21:19.18 | nicoli_s | well it just turned 4:20, i had to round up :P |
| 21:19.19 | Bifuu | 12.20? |
| 21:19.29 | Sixen | :P |
| 21:19.42 | vjeux | ~time |
| 21:19.42 | purl | time is probably 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2010.03.24 21:19:42 GMT |
| 21:19.56 | Sixen | Haha |
| 21:20.17 | Bifuu | How many bots are in this channel O.o |
| 21:20.19 | vjeux | I'm the nearest :p |
| 21:20.35 | nicoli_s | like 1 |
| 21:20.41 | nicoli_s | repo is a bot, think thats it |
| 21:20.50 | Sixen | purl and repo~ |
| 21:20.51 | Bifuu | purl? |
| 21:20.56 | Sixen | ~lart bifuu |
| 21:20.56 | purl | slams bifuu against a large cement Tux |
| 21:21.00 | Sixen | Oh snaps. |
| 21:21.09 | Bifuu | i love you too |
| 21:21.13 | Sixen | ~hug bifuu |
| 21:21.14 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs bifuu |
| 21:21.23 | Bifuu | that scares me |
| 21:21.25 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:21.34 | Sixen | Sounds kinda painful. |
| 21:21.46 | Bifuu | depends on where i was standing |
| 21:22.54 | nicoli_s | ahh yeah purl too |
| 21:23.11 | nicoli_s | purl is just for random commands, repo reports new files and commits |
| 21:23.50 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/markup-types/templates/ by vjeux |
| 21:24.02 | vjeux | ~vjeux |
| 21:24.39 | Bifuu | needsa BifBot imo that does like nothing because its so lazy |
| 21:25.12 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:31.45 | Fisker | slaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:32.35 | nicoli_s | yes fisker? |
| 21:36.09 | Bifuu | someone buy me this kk http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5648469&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs |
| 21:37.12 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/markup-types/templates/ by ckknight |
| 21:38.57 | Bifuu | heeeey how did my template get in there |
| 21:39.40 | Bifuu | well its neater than my template but the parent node is the same! |
| 21:39.41 | Sixen | I did it last night |
| 21:39.48 | Bifuu | ohhh |
| 21:39.55 | Bifuu | oh yeah you did say we needed a template page |
| 21:39.56 | Sixen | You told corbo to keep it c/p'd, I said we should make a templates page |
| 21:39.59 | Sixen | so I made a templates page ;) |
| 21:40.48 | Sixen | vjeux removed the <<code>> tags from them. ckk just fixed my dumb mistake |
| 21:42.43 | Remy_ | I need a name for the extended galaxy language |
| 21:42.48 | Remy_ | shall I just go with galaxy++ ? |
| 21:43.12 | nicoli_s | i like it |
| 21:43.15 | Remy_ | bit over the top but I would like a name ^^ |
| 21:43.31 | nicoli_s | galaxy+1.5 |
| 21:43.32 | Sixen | Hrm. Well, what're you writing the preComp in again? |
| 21:43.35 | Bifuu | makes sense for galaxy++ |
| 21:43.51 | Bifuu | if galaxy is based on C, the next step would be c++ sooo |
| 21:43.53 | Sixen | I like Galaxy++ or G++ |
| 21:44.07 | Sixen | GalxC |
| 21:44.08 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:44.08 | Zoxc- | Galaxy-- |
| 21:44.14 | Sixen | oicwutudidthar |
| 21:44.24 | Zoxc- | g++ = c++ compiler :) |
| 21:44.27 | Sixen | :P |
| 21:45.00 | Zoxc- | name the language after you've fixed it |
| 21:45.18 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:47.42 | nicoli_s | call it Visual G#++ |
| 21:47.55 | nicoli_s | oh sorry, Visual G#++.net |
| 21:47.58 | Sixen | lawl |
| 21:48.03 | Sixen | I'd have said Galaxy# |
| 21:48.05 | Sixen | Or G# |
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| 21:48.35 | Zoxc- | Galaxy.FUCK |
| 21:49.46 | HP-snus | I say Galaxy++ if I have a say |
| 21:49.54 | Bifuu | G#++.Net basic |
| 21:49.58 | Xtek | C# was originally named COOL. |
| 21:50.06 | HP-snus | and yeah, g++ is no good, wont be able to google it w one word ;p |
| 21:50.13 | Xtek | Objective-G |
| 21:50.15 | Xtek | There 'ya go. |
| 21:50.19 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:51.48 | Remy_ | hmm |
| 21:51.49 | Zoxc- | call it Galaxzimo |
| 21:51.53 | Remy_ | I've got simple for loops now |
| 21:51.56 | Remy_ | with the use of commas |
| 21:52.07 | Remy_ | so for(int i = 0; i < 10; i++) { body.. } is fine |
| 21:52.32 | Remy_ | but not for(int i = 0, int j = 0; i < 10; j++, i++) { body } |
| 21:52.52 | Remy_ | I find the regular for syntax so inconsist with the rest of the language |
| 21:53.06 | Remy_ | suddenly declaration are seperated by commas instead of semicolons |
| 21:53.10 | Remy_ | inconsistent |
| 21:58.18 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/unit-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 21:58.20 | Bifuu | ^ fixt |
| 22:03.54 | Zoxc- | commas aren't allowed in galaxy are they? |
| 22:04.11 | Remy_ | function parameters |
| 22:05.20 | Zoxc- | as for expressions |
| 22:06.10 | Sixen | Alright, gotta catch my bus. Bbs. |
| 22:06.11 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@149.169.234.193) |
| 22:06.15 | Shaki | OFC |
| 22:06.22 | Shaki | brb |
| 22:06.58 | Shaki | back |
| 22:07.13 | Shaki | now, i read the galaxy language |
| 22:07.14 | Shaki | lol |
| 22:10.24 | Shaki | ok this is confusing lol |
| 22:11.29 | lapin_sc | Zoxc- i dont know -- never seen them being used anyway |
| 22:16.01 | Shaki | omg im so happy |
| 22:16.11 | Shaki | i understood most of it! |
| 22:16.13 | Shaki | xD |
| 22:16.23 | Shaki | not even half done tho |
| 22:16.24 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 22:17.16 | nicoli_s | btw Remy_ lapin_sc was trying to get in touch with you earlier |
| 22:20.21 | Bifuu | pssst nic |
| 22:20.24 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.02 | nicoli_s | whoops missed that |
| 22:28.14 | Bifuu | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766993229&sid=5000&pageNo=1 was a good waste of like 20 minutes (i read slow ok?!) |
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| 22:43.10 | nicoli_s | hey what do i add to the variables.txt to enable to trigger debug window again? |
| 22:43.52 | Shaki | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/region-random-point/ |
| 22:43.54 | Shaki | 404 error |
| 22:44.33 | Shaki | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/cliff-level/ |
| 22:44.37 | Shaki | 404 as well :( |
| 22:45.36 | nicoli_s | they might not be implemented yet |
| 22:45.56 | nicoli_s | yah, the ones that are red on the function list arent implemented |
| 22:46.14 | Shaki | o |
| 22:46.14 | Shaki | ok |
| 22:46.15 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 22:51.47 | Bifuu | trigdebug=1 nic |
| 22:52.11 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/item-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
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| 22:55.42 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/item-class-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 22:56.00 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/item-class-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 22:56.39 | Shaki | Whyyyy!!! |
| 22:56.49 | Shaki | Why is learning this code so long and hard! |
| 22:57.07 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/item-container-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 22:57.14 | ckknight | Shaki: just the way things are |
| 22:57.14 | Shaki | Since i can't memorize it |
| 22:57.23 | Shaki | i gotta read it like 4 times |
| 22:57.24 | Shaki | lol |
| 22:57.27 | Shaki | before i learn it |
| 22:57.30 | Bifuu | you dont memorize it |
| 22:57.32 | Bifuu | atleast i dont |
| 22:57.33 | Shaki | and its taking hours |
| 22:57.41 | Shaki | I'll want to be pro :D |
| 22:57.49 | Shaki | (GL with that shaki.) |
| 22:57.56 | Bifuu | the point of documentation is so you dont have to memorize it |
| 22:58.03 | Bifuu | if you do, it just comes over time |
| 22:58.11 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 22:58.13 | ckknight | well, you should know the basics of the language |
| 22:58.18 | Bifuu | just know like the basic syntax |
| 22:58.21 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 22:58.30 | ckknight | the individual functions are less important to know off the top of your head |
| 22:58.40 | Shaki | lol i still must know |
| 22:58.42 | Shaki | you guys do |
| 22:58.42 | Shaki | XD |
| 22:58.52 | Bifuu | just know wtf if/then/else statements are and shit like that |
| 22:58.58 | Bifuu | i dont know galaxy =P |
| 22:59.12 | Bifuu | i just thought of something does galaxy support switch statements? |
| 23:00.22 | ckknight | it does not |
| 23:00.52 | Bifuu | QQ |
| 23:00.59 | Bifuu | chaining If/thens inc |
| 23:01.10 | ckknight | yep |
| 23:02.40 | Shaki | i still must read every submission over |
| 23:02.42 | Shaki | so i get a feel |
| 23:02.43 | Shaki | xD |
| 23:03.43 | Shaki | OooooOO |
| 23:03.53 | Shaki | is starcraft 2 gonna have more than 12 people in a game |
| 23:03.54 | Shaki | :O |
| 23:03.56 | Shaki | lavander |
| 23:03.58 | Shaki | whiet? |
| 23:04.00 | ckknight | in custom games, yea |
| 23:04.16 | Shaki | faints. |
| 23:04.25 | Bifuu | can have up to 16 |
| 23:04.30 | Shaki | dies. |
| 23:04.40 | Bifuu | and possibly 16 more computers, if you really need that many |
| 23:05.05 | Shaki | can't wait to play as a purple player |
| 23:05.05 | Shaki | lol |
| 23:05.30 | Bifuu | Heres a thought, i wonder with custom games if you wont have to list a slot in the lobby for computers. |
| 23:05.53 | Shaki | That'd be <3 |
| 23:05.54 | Shaki | lol |
| 23:06.51 | Shaki | almost done |
| 23:06.52 | Shaki | lol |
| 23:09.36 | Shaki | why's it always have to have c_ for stuff :P |
| 23:09.39 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/loot-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 23:09.53 | Shaki | noooooo! |
| 23:09.53 | Shaki | lol |
| 23:09.57 | Shaki | more stuff to read |
| 23:10.08 | Shaki | i'm jk :) |
| 23:10.12 | Shaki | go bifuU! |
| 23:10.31 | Bifuu | lol |
| 23:10.38 | Bifuu | The last 4 are all short |
| 23:10.42 | Bifuu | yet interesting |
| 23:14.59 | Shaki | time for a snack for being like 12 from being finished |
| 23:15.00 | Shaki | lol |
| 23:53.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster Remy_ (~5ed309d4@gateway/web/freenode/x-gfhcutvagnfwwwmk) |
| 23:53.41 | Remy_ | how can I upload files quickly? |
| 23:53.48 | Remy_ | I get needs approval everytime I upload a binary |
| 23:54.01 | Remy_ | provide a link to secondary download location? |
| 23:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it needs approval. |
| 23:54.31 | Remy_ | so just come here and ask everytime? works for me |
| 23:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Or wait for someone to approve it. |
| 23:55.15 | Remy_ | how long does that take? |
| 23:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Whenever someone gets around to it |
| 23:57.15 | ckknight | I can do it |
| 23:57.16 | Shaki | back |
| 23:57.22 | Shaki | long snack |
| 23:57.23 | Shaki | lol |
| 23:57.29 | ckknight | sorry, Remy_, we take security pretty seriously |
| 23:57.36 | Remy_ | ok |
| 23:57.36 | Remy_ | sure |
| 23:57.42 | Remy_ | hmm |
| 23:57.57 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 23:57.58 | Bifuu | so |
| 23:58.04 | Bifuu | My documentation for AbilData |
| 23:58.09 | Bifuu | is only half done |
| 23:58.11 | Bifuu | hahaha |
| 23:58.15 | Shaki | o-o |
| 23:58.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Astazha (~Astazha@97.95.232.222) |
| 23:58.32 | Bifuu | right now it has 23 parents, it actually has 48 unique parents |
| 23:58.39 | Shaki | lol. |
| 23:58.49 | Shaki | that may be a problem |
| 23:58.50 | Bifuu | errr 46 |
| 23:58.50 | Shaki | lol |
| 23:58.57 | Bifuu | so exactly half |
| 23:59.00 | Bifuu | how about that |
| 23:59.05 | Astazha | I'm in dire need of some heavy duty anti-virus help if anyone is up to the task. |
| 23:59.11 | Remy_ | that's half awesome |
| 23:59.16 | Shaki | AVG |
| 23:59.18 | Shaki | Avast |
| 23:59.20 | Shaki | Mcafee |
| 23:59.25 | Shaki | uh |
| 23:59.25 | Astazha | no no |
| 23:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | regedit, filemon, procmon |
| 23:59.39 | Shaki | Home made antivirus? |
| 23:59.43 | Shaki | lol |
| 23:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 23:59.46 | Remy_ | what is he asking? =D |
