| 00:01.08 | Shaki | back |
| 00:01.08 | Shaki | revives at the ressurection stone. |
| 00:01.23 | Bifuu | now you have rez sickness |
| 00:01.35 | Shaki | FAIL |
| 00:01.49 | Shaki | you refered to wow |
| 00:01.54 | Bifuu | Holy crap winmpq is old, is there like anything newer thast better? O.o |
| 00:02.00 | nicoli_s | use mpq editor |
| 00:02.05 | Bifuu | sure did |
| 00:02.06 | Shaki | i refered to the campaign in wc3 |
| 00:02.07 | Jack[RCDF | Lul, mpqdraft? |
| 00:02.33 | Jack[RCDF | LEEEEEEROYYY nnnJEnKINNNNNS |
| 00:02.41 | Shaki | anyone ever pet a cat |
| 00:02.43 | Shaki | with a broom |
| 00:02.55 | Jack[RCDF | No, shaki. |
| 00:02.59 | Shaki | I HAS |
| 00:03.12 | Corbo | I did it |
| 00:03.18 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:03.23 | Jack[RCDF | YOU R A MEAN PERSON |
| 00:03.27 | Corbo | they don't exactly have fire on their back |
| 00:03.30 | Corbo | but they float |
| 00:03.36 | Corbo | and they go up in cliffs |
| 00:03.36 | Shaki | yay |
| 00:03.37 | Corbo | ;o |
| 00:03.45 | Jack[RCDF | Who, dts? |
| 00:03.46 | Shaki | idc about the effects |
| 00:03.52 | Shaki | i just like the awesome looks |
| 00:03.53 | Shaki | :D |
| 00:04.23 | Shaki | i like playing with this br00m |
| 00:04.23 | Bifuu | DTs have capes too, so now theya re just like Super Heroes |
| 00:04.24 | Shaki | XD |
| 00:04.33 | Shaki | yaaaay |
| 00:04.33 | Jack[RCDF | Windoze is so ugly compared to linux |
| 00:04.44 | Shaki | not windows 7 |
| 00:04.47 | Shaki | or 8 |
| 00:04.51 | Jack[RCDF | 7 is |
| 00:04.52 | Shaki | they're customisable |
| 00:04.52 | Shaki | :P |
| 00:05.04 | Jack[RCDF | Not customizable enough |
| 00:05.15 | Jack[RCDF | Haven't seen 8 :o |
| 00:05.25 | Shaki | cuz its not out yet |
| 00:05.26 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:05.32 | Corbo | http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2083/screenshot068h.jpg |
| 00:05.34 | Corbo | http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/155/screenshot069.jpg |
| 00:05.45 | Jack[RCDF | But 7's only good feature is the icon with program preview |
| 00:05.59 | Shaki | WIN |
| 00:05.59 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:06.01 | Bifuu | haha that great |
| 00:06.23 | Corbo | I wished they had the fire particles, though. |
| 00:06.27 | Shaki | jack |
| 00:06.32 | Corbo | let me try harder |
| 00:06.37 | Shaki | linux you have to progrram everything |
| 00:06.39 | Jack[RCDF | Corbs, post in SEN sbox, i can't click irc links on my phone |
| 00:06.44 | Shaki | i'd rather just enjoy playing my pc |
| 00:06.44 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:06.46 | Jack[RCDF | Shaki no |
| 00:07.19 | Shaki | and nothing supports linux |
| 00:07.23 | Shaki | cuz its not popular |
| 00:07.40 | Jack[RCDF | I set up linux ubuntu yesterday for my computer-illiterate sister, no coding involved at all |
| 00:07.53 | Corbo | what's reaper burst, guys? |
| 00:08.01 | Shaki | windows 7 is what VISTA should've been |
| 00:08.01 | Jack[RCDF | And only games aren't supported on linux |
| 00:08.09 | Shaki | winows 8 is windows 7 lol |
| 00:09.24 | Jack[RCDF | Does 7 have multiple desktops? |
| 00:09.29 | Shaki | well |
| 00:09.44 | Shaki | do you have multiple monitors? |
| 00:09.50 | Jack[RCDF | lul |
| 00:10.00 | Jack[RCDF | Ok another point to linux |
| 00:10.07 | Shaki | IDC ABOUT LINUX |
| 00:10.09 | Shaki | so please |
| 00:10.13 | Shaki | DROP IT |
| 00:10.19 | Bifuu | ^ |
| 00:10.22 | Jack[RCDF | LINUXLINUXLINUXLINUX |
| 00:10.33 | Shaki | pulls his shotgun out and cocks it. |
| 00:10.52 | Jack[RCDF | *dodges* |
| 00:11.01 | Shaki | FAIL |
| 00:11.02 | Jack[RCDF | dodges too |
| 00:11.12 | Shaki | aims it at his head. |
| 00:11.16 | Shaki | fires. |
| 00:11.23 | Jack[RCDF | dodges |
| 00:11.30 | Shaki | 's limp body falls lifelessly to the ground. |
| 00:11.38 | Jack[RCDF | lul |
| 00:11.40 | nicoli_s | hey geys, we try and keep this channel as dev focused as possible, so try and keep the random chit chat/emotes to a min mmk |
| 00:11.47 | Jack[RCDF | dodges the body |
| 00:11.55 | Jack[RCDF | K sorry |
| 00:11.57 | Shaki | lol i todl him to drop it nic |
| 00:12.16 | nicoli_s | its cool, its just people like to read up to see what people talked about, which is hard when theres 10k lines :P |
| 00:12.28 | Jack[RCDF | You were the one who brought up win7 |
| 00:12.36 | Shaki | dude |
| 00:12.38 | Jack[RCDF | ANYWAY |
| 00:12.40 | Shaki | you act like a child |
| 00:12.44 | Shaki | "you started it!" |
| 00:12.46 | Shaki | .. |
| 00:12.59 | nicoli_s | btw, the map editor can now list preplaced units and resources |
| 00:12.59 | Jack[RCDF | That was the point shaki. |
| 00:13.19 | Shaki | sickage |
| 00:13.22 | Jack[RCDF | Does the editor have trigger editing? |
| 00:13.24 | Shaki | how do you learn to make those thigns |
| 00:13.27 | Shaki | :S |
| 00:13.56 | Bifuu | nice nic |
| 00:14.41 | nicoli_s | jack: not yet since there are currently only 2 triggers |
| 00:14.47 | nicoli_s | map init and chat message |
| 00:15.48 | Shaki | nicoli? |
| 00:15.58 | Shaki | how do you make map editors |
| 00:16.02 | Shaki | you must be a genious |
| 00:16.03 | Shaki | :P |
| 00:16.16 | Shaki | if i don't know it |
| 00:16.20 | Shaki | and someone else does |
| 00:16.25 | Shaki | its hard to do :) |
| 00:16.57 | Shaki | yay only 4 hours till i get to play |
| 00:16.58 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:17.18 | nicoli_s | shaki: it just takes time |
| 00:17.28 | nicoli_s | ive been programming stuff like this for going on 10 years now |
| 00:17.42 | Shaki | you're older than i anticipated |
| 00:17.45 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:17.58 | Bifuu | Hmm so whats the easiest way to edit MPQ data and testing it? |
| 00:18.28 | Shaki | there is no easy way |
| 00:18.29 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:19.10 | Shaki | mantaining your low standards |
| 00:19.11 | Bifuu | i thought there was a way to leave the files outside of an mpq and still beable to be read or something like that |
| 00:19.15 | Shaki | is the key to sucess |
| 00:19.16 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:19.31 | Shaki | you mean extract? |
| 00:19.44 | Jack[RCDF | Bifuu, extract the files, edit, put back in |
| 00:20.02 | Bifuu | erm never mind |
| 00:20.15 | Bifuu | ill just look up what im thinking of |
| 00:20.34 | nicoli_s | you can put the files in their same directory path in the main sc2 directory |
| 00:20.37 | nicoli_s | and it will load them |
| 00:21.59 | Corbo | I give up |
| 00:22.07 | Corbo | I have no idea how to attach a particle ;o |
| 00:23.15 | Shaki | ok |
| 00:23.18 | Shaki | npx |
| 00:23.26 | Shaki | should i work on my map |
| 00:23.30 | Bifuu | hmm so you mean like C:\Program Files (x86)\StarCraft II Beta\Assets for changing textures and it will load? |
| 00:24.19 | Shaki | I'm in the mood for flash games! |
| 00:24.21 | Shaki | dont judhe |
| 00:24.24 | Shaki | im trying to dl |
| 00:24.27 | Shaki | sc2 |
| 00:25.04 | nicoli_s | yes bifuu |
| 00:25.20 | Bifuu | i see thanks, thast what i was wondering |
| 00:25.37 | Bifuu | Plus i pulled up Corbo's post on SEN haha |
| 00:25.52 | Bifuu | well time to mess up my installation wee |
| 00:25.53 | Corbo | no bifuu |
| 00:26.01 | Jack[RCDF | Corbo, how many images do you have to edit for a tileset? And are they .dds? |
| 00:26.12 | Corbo | starcraft II beta\mods\whatevermod\assets\ |
| 00:26.19 | Corbo | dunno |
| 00:26.23 | nicoli_s | ok well im off, should hopefully release a new version of the editor tom with mini map viewing support, with object placement |
| 00:26.28 | Corbo | around 16 |
| 00:26.30 | Corbo | maybe more |
| 00:26.30 | Shaki | ei ei nic |
| 00:26.36 | Jack[RCDF | lul k |
| 00:26.37 | Corbo | and they're not even all tileset images. |
| 00:26.38 | Shaki | xD |
| 00:26.58 | Corbo | nicoli |
| 00:27.05 | Shaki | salutes to nicoli_s. |
| 00:27.08 | Jack[RCDF | Do the tiles have bumpmap support? |
| 00:27.21 | Bifuu | later nic |
| 00:27.38 | Corbo | sixen said you could edit the mpq header to break the file limit |
| 00:27.49 | Shaki | prolly |
| 00:27.51 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:28.04 | Corbo | he also said that he didn't remember if it was you or vjeux |
| 00:28.32 | Shaki | corbo |
| 00:28.34 | Shaki | nic left |
| 00:28.35 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:28.37 | Corbo | yes zany, you already know that |
| 00:28.42 | Corbo | wtf |
| 00:28.47 | Shaki | lol. |
| 00:28.49 | Corbo | I just read he left |
| 00:28.51 | Corbo | :C |
| 00:29.08 | Shaki | i need some entertaining flash games |
| 00:29.14 | Shaki | reccomendations? |
| 00:29.31 | Corbo | Toss the turtle |
| 00:29.33 | Bifuu | i know one but i forgot the name xD |
| 00:29.54 | Shaki | ty corbo |
| 00:29.54 | Bifuu | go play some Picross that usually keeps me busy for a few hours |
| 00:30.08 | Shaki | well i need alot of hours |
| 00:30.08 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:30.19 | Shaki | waiting for sc2 dl |
| 00:30.19 | Shaki | :P |
| 00:30.38 | Jack[RCDF | Heh I have a bad memory corbo, I'll probably end up asking you again |
| 00:30.53 | Bifuu | From Blizzard's downloader? disable peer to peer and it goes faster |
| 00:31.03 | Jack[RCDF | Is the nvidi program still the best for editing .dds? |
| 00:31.10 | Shaki | no im doin torrent |
| 00:31.16 | Bifuu | ah |
| 00:31.20 | Bifuu | well then yeah have fun |
| 00:31.21 | Jack[RCDF | Nvidia* |
| 00:31.36 | Shaki | lol i turned off upload |
| 00:31.40 | Shaki | my upload is 1kb/s |
| 00:31.43 | Shaki | faster dls |
| 00:31.47 | Shaki | by 100 kb/s usually |
| 00:31.57 | Bifuu | i do the same |
| 00:32.17 | Corbo | the nvidia plug in=? |
| 00:32.27 | Corbo | I doubt there's actually anything else. |
| 00:32.34 | Corbo | but yeah, it's the best. |
| 00:32.42 | Shaki | Nvidia is a videocard maker |
| 00:32.43 | Shaki | lol |
| 00:32.57 | Corbo | they also made the photoshop plug in |
| 00:33.01 | Shaki | i have an Nvidia videocard |
| 00:33.02 | Corbo | to open their dds files |
| 00:33.15 | Corbo | they're like |
| 00:33.22 | Corbo | WE GONNA MAKE AWESOME VIDEO CARDS |
| 00:33.32 | Corbo | BUT YOU DEVELOPERS HAVE TO USE OUR OWN FORMAT |
| 00:33.38 | Corbo | SO YOUR GAME LOOKS EVEN BETTER |
| 00:33.48 | Jack[RCDF | What, the model xml doesn't have model scaling AFAIK |
| 00:33.55 | Corbo | no |
| 00:34.03 | Corbo | that's unit xml I think |
| 00:34.03 | Jack[RCDF | GAY |
| 00:34.07 | Jack[RCDF | Ahk |
| 00:34.44 | Bifuu | Anyways to edit unit propties on a per map basis yet? |
| 00:35.12 | Corbo | like... you're already playing the game and you wanna edit the units? |
| 00:35.13 | Corbo | or what? |
| 00:35.38 | Bifuu | i mean like, if i want to make a Zergling do 99999 damage, it can only do 99999 damage on one map only |
| 00:35.44 | Corbo | oh |
| 00:35.59 | Corbo | add the xml file to the map |
| 00:36.04 | Corbo | in the correct directory |
| 00:36.21 | Corbo | like gamedata\blah.xml |
| 00:36.27 | Shaki | wait what? |
| 00:36.32 | Bifuu | hmm cool |
| 00:36.32 | Shaki | you can edit maps? |
| 00:36.33 | Corbo | or maybe it is mpqname\gamedata\blah.xml |
| 00:36.35 | Shaki | so i can like |
| 00:36.40 | Shaki | make a dt be a god |
| 00:36.41 | Shaki | XD |
| 00:36.45 | Corbo | yes |
| 00:36.48 | Corbo | >.> |
| 00:36.49 | Shaki | awesome |
| 00:36.54 | Shaki | ima make my dt |
| 00:36.56 | Shaki | have nuke |
| 00:36.57 | Shaki | build |
| 00:36.59 | Shaki | and.. |
| 00:37.01 | Shaki | burrow |
| 00:37.02 | Shaki | xD |
| 00:37.03 | Bifuu | and will this make it so i dont have to change the main mpqs so i dont have to swap them out when i play on battlenet? |
| 00:37.47 | Corbo | you probably won't be able to play over b.net. for one you cannot upload your own map, second, the other person must have your same map/files |
| 00:37.51 | Corbo | or weird stuff could happen |
| 00:38.04 | Corbo | I don't know since I have never played over bnet :P |
| 00:38.12 | Bifuu | well i dont want to play with other people |
| 00:38.25 | Jack[RCDF | Corbo, can't see scale information there, although there's some cool stuff |
| 00:38.26 | Bifuu | just im too lazy to fix my main files when i feel like playing ladder |
| 00:39.16 | Jack[RCDF | I guess we have to scale in our modeling programs |
| 00:39.25 | Corbo | no |
| 00:39.30 | Corbo | you can scale them out of an xml |
| 00:39.36 | Corbo | I don't remember which one it is then. |
| 00:39.38 | Jack[RCDF | And if we want them to scale ingame, we have to animate that |
| 00:39.42 | Corbo | people have done it many times. |
| 00:39.45 | Jack[RCDF | K |
| 00:39.51 | ckknight | I added some icons to http://www.sc2mapster.com/categories/ |
| 00:40.12 | ckknight | specifically 3D Models, AI, Tools, and CTF |
| 00:40.26 | ckknight | what'd be a good icon for Galaxy Scripts? |
| 00:40.45 | Corbo | some weird programming code |
| 00:40.45 | Corbo | :P |
| 00:40.57 | Bifuu | Steal the galaxy from the spore logo |
| 00:40.57 | Bifuu | lol |
| 00:41.04 | Corbo | yeah ckk |
| 00:41.04 | Jack[RCDF | Make it green, matrix styles |
| 00:41.13 | Corbo | why not just make them the sc2 buttons? |
| 00:41.22 | Corbo | I mean |
| 00:41.25 | Corbo | they're already blue |
| 00:41.26 | Corbo | ;o |
| 00:41.28 | Bifuu | actually nm that galaxy is weak |
| 00:41.55 | ckknight | Corbo: give me the images |
| 00:41.58 | Bifuu | make a galaxy out of 1s and 0s |
| 00:42.00 | Bifuu | there you go |
| 00:42.01 | Corbo | really? |
| 00:42.11 | Corbo | I'll get on it ;o |
| 00:42.18 | Corbo | no clue where they are. |
| 00:42.19 | Jack[RCDF | Go my son |
| 00:42.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Witchsong (noreply@35.168.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 00:42.30 | Corbo | songwitch |
| 00:42.30 | Bifuu | lol |
| 00:44.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sholdak (Sholdak@ool-18b9bd8b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:46.08 | Shaki | LOl |
| 00:46.16 | Shaki | this game is so violent |
| 00:46.16 | Shaki | XD |
| 00:46.20 | Jack[RCDF | I dun get it |
| 00:46.24 | Corbo | it is :P |
| 00:46.32 | Jack[RCDF | Tisnt |
| 00:46.32 | Corbo | I have a 4million record |
| 00:46.34 | Corbo | or something |
| 00:46.41 | Jack[RCDF | IT IS PEACEFUL |
| 00:46.45 | Corbo | I uploaded some vids on youtube |
| 00:46.51 | Corbo | and people were like wtf hax |
| 00:46.55 | Shaki | xD |
| 00:47.01 | Corbo | but it's fun |
| 00:47.13 | Corbo | after you can pretty much get every weapon |
| 00:47.16 | Jack[RCDF | What game? 1 M4D3 A GAM3 W1TH ZOMBIES? |
| 00:47.17 | Corbo | you just keep going |
| 00:47.19 | Corbo | and going |
| 00:47.41 | Bifuu | Corbo you still looking for the buttons? |
| 00:48.03 | Shaki | my record |
| 00:48.12 | Shaki | is like 13k |
| 00:48.15 | Bifuu | i think i found em i just cant check, dont have anything to open .dds |
| 00:48.53 | Corbo | oh dear god |
| 00:48.59 | Corbo | all of the buttons are one single file |
| 00:49.12 | Corbo | I found them a while ago |
| 00:49.16 | Jack[RCDF | Bifuu registry.gimp.org/node/70 assuming you have gimp |
| 00:49.38 | Bifuu | O.o single file? iw onder what these are then |
| 00:49.42 | Bifuu | thanks jack |
| 00:50.02 | Jack[RCDF | Otherwise, pirate photoshop like corbo and 90percent of the photoshoppers |
| 00:50.09 | Bifuu | i have it on disk |
| 00:50.15 | Shaki | yay |
| 00:50.16 | Bifuu | im just too lazy to mess with installing it |
| 00:50.18 | Shaki | upgraded cannon |
| 00:50.19 | Corbo | my photoshop is legal |
| 00:50.28 | Jack[RCDF | Orly |
| 00:50.31 | Corbo | yes |
| 00:50.36 | Corbo | they give it to us on uni |
| 00:50.39 | Jack[RCDF | How much? |
| 00:50.42 | Jack[RCDF | Ah |
| 00:50.45 | Corbo | at least to me anyway, since I'm a likeable guy. |
| 00:50.46 | Corbo | ;o |
| 00:50.50 | Jack[RCDF | Heh |
| 00:51.17 | Corbo | though I've had photoshop way mroe time than what I've been studying in uni, if you know what I mean ;o |
| 00:51.22 | Jack[RCDF | I'll stick with gimp until i need more hardcore stuff |
| 00:51.43 | Bifuu | Software is easy to get for free when you go to school haha |
| 00:51.48 | Jack[RCDF | Mm |
| 00:52.03 | Jack[RCDF | Or, cheaper at least |
| 00:52.12 | Shaki | wow |
| 00:52.16 | Shaki | the upgrade helps SO MUCH |
| 00:52.18 | Shaki | xD |
| 00:52.27 | Jack[RCDF | Maya has student vers which i'll probably have to use at college |
| 00:52.51 | Bifuu | Corbo what version of PS you got? |
| 00:53.15 | Witchsong | Real men got legal Photoshop. |
| 00:53.23 | Shaki | no |
| 00:53.27 | ckknight | k, I made an icon for Galaxy |
| 00:53.28 | Shaki | its nt illegal |
| 00:53.31 | Shaki | not in canada |
| 00:53.32 | Shaki | xD |
| 00:53.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster Remy__ (~5ed309d4@gateway/web/freenode/x-nmirbvpczzigdehx) |
| 00:53.40 | Remy__ | Hello |
| 00:53.41 | Witchsong | <-- Owns legal CS4 Master Collection. |
| 00:53.42 | Remy__ | anyone here? |
| 00:53.42 | Corbo | cs3 |
| 00:53.47 | Corbo | EW |
| 00:53.48 | Corbo | cs4 |
| 00:53.54 | Bifuu | i have CS4 =/ |
| 00:53.56 | ckknight | howdy, Remy__ |
| 00:53.58 | Corbo | bad witchsong |
| 00:54.02 | Corbo | bad |
| 00:54.04 | Corbo | :P |
| 00:54.08 | Bifuu | when i got it and loaded it up i uninstalled it |
| 00:54.11 | Witchsong | :P |
| 00:54.11 | Remy__ | I just finished the first version of my galaxy tool |
| 00:54.17 | Bifuu | thus why i would have to reinstall it |
| 00:54.17 | Jack[RCDF | So...i herd cs4 is bad |
| 00:54.18 | Remy__ | it's a syntax checker for galaxy |
| 00:54.44 | ckknight | cool |
| 00:54.50 | ckknight | this the one in Haskell? |
| 00:54.51 | Remy__ | I hope so |
| 00:54.53 | Remy__ | yeah |
| 00:55.11 | Witchsong | But, now I'm off. See ya! |
| 00:55.19 | pentium166 | cs4 has a 64-bit version! |
| 00:55.27 | Jack[RCDF | NO RLY |
| 00:55.32 | Remy__ | you know haskell? |
| 00:55.38 | ckknight | well, feel free to create a project on sc2mapster.com for it |
| 00:55.40 | Jack[RCDF | Gimp does too. Heck, paint does. |
| 00:55.48 | Remy__ | yeah I did |
| 00:55.50 | ckknight | no, I don't, Remy__ |
| 00:55.54 | pentium166 | cs3, afaik, does not. |
| 00:56.08 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/milkyway-precompiler/. MilkyWay precompiler. steen-reem (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
| 00:56.14 | Bifuu | this dds for gimp is failing on me meh oh well |
| 00:56.19 | Remy__ | okay well it's a functional language. it makes coding go a bit faster |
| 00:56.21 | Jack[RCDF | lul |
| 00:56.47 | Corbo | oh noes |
| 00:56.52 | Jack[RCDF | Heh I've actually put together a computer with a 166mhz processor |
| 00:56.54 | Corbo | I'm no longer the newest asset |
| 00:56.59 | Corbo | *makes something new* |
| 00:57.09 | Bifuu | lol |
| 00:57.17 | ckknight | Remy__: yea, I'm very fond of functional programming. |
| 00:57.22 | ckknight | Remy__: ever play with F#? |
| 00:57.27 | Jack[RCDF | CORBO QUICK, MAKE A MOD WITH FUNGUSCRAFT SOUNDS |
| 00:57.29 | Remy__ | no not yet |
| 00:57.33 | ckknight | indoor voice, Jack[RCDF |
| 00:57.38 | Remy__ | though I like visual studio and c# so it would make sense |
| 00:57.43 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:57.44 | Jack[RCDF | Yeah yeah ;o |
| 00:58.00 | ckknight | well, Anders created both Haskell and C# |
| 00:58.14 | Bifuu | yay C# |
| 00:58.26 | Jack[RCDF | Funguscraft was awesome. |
| 00:58.33 | Bifuu | the only C i truely love |
| 00:58.38 | ckknight | hehe, Bifuu |
| 00:58.44 | ckknight | I'm a big LINQ fan :P |
| 00:58.51 | Bifuu | heck yeah |
| 00:59.03 | ckknight | okay, now I need an idea for an icon for the Tilesets category |
| 00:59.12 | Bifuu | iw as excited when i heard SC2 stuff was mostly XML |
| 00:59.36 | Bifuu | A Tree and some squares? |
| 00:59.44 | ckknight | tree, eh? |
| 00:59.49 | Bifuu | i dunno xD |
| 01:00.02 | Bifuu | i always think of everything terrain |
| 01:00.05 | Jack[RCDF | Tree sticking up from a blue glowing grid |
| 01:00.05 | Bifuu | and yeah |
| 01:00.37 | Bifuu | make it a mountain thats a grid |
| 01:00.45 | Jack[RCDF | Yeah |
| 01:00.49 | Corbo | ckk |
| 01:00.54 | Corbo | do they have to be transparent |
| 01:01.00 | Corbo | or can they have a black background? |
| 01:01.12 | ckknight | they'll have a background |
| 01:01.30 | Corbo | Okay |
| 01:01.41 | ckknight | just have to be square |
| 01:01.52 | Corbo | cause I'm making them myself cause sc just overlays some green stuff over a bunch of dds |
| 01:02.21 | ckknight | making the icons yourself? |
| 01:02.24 | Jack[RCDF | Does the achievements xml mean we can make custom achievements? |
| 01:02.24 | ckknight | I've already made a few |
| 01:02.57 | Bifuu | maybe, if we can Jack im sure they wont be saved |
| 01:03.13 | Bifuu | if they are, i forsee people with millions of achievements |
| 01:03.26 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:03.37 | Corbo | 32x32? |
| 01:03.54 | ckknight | Corbo: 256x256 |
| 01:04.00 | Corbo | not really making them but more like fixing the sc ones to be 32x32 and blue |
| 01:04.01 | Corbo | what |
| 01:04.02 | ckknight | it'll rescale |
| 01:04.03 | Corbo | really? |
| 01:04.03 | Jack[RCDF | lolwow |
| 01:04.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:04.08 | Corbo | 256? |
| 01:04.10 | ckknight | yes. |
| 01:04.11 | ckknight | well |
| 01:04.12 | ckknight | actually |
| 01:04.12 | Bifuu | HD Icons |
| 01:04.14 | Corbo | >.> |
| 01:04.14 | ckknight | YxY |
| 01:04.16 | ckknight | whatever Y is |
| 01:04.18 | ckknight | doesn't matter |
| 01:04.32 | Corbo | I'll 64x64 |
| 01:04.41 | Corbo | Cause that's the smallest one I found on sc |
| 01:04.42 | ckknight | eh, I'd do bigger than that |
| 01:04.45 | ckknight | eh |
| 01:04.47 | ckknight | whatever, then |
| 01:04.49 | ckknight | go with 64x64 |
| 01:05.33 | Jack[RCDF | So where are most of the sc2mapster people from, as in online communities? |
| 01:06.08 | Corbo | nvm I can do 76 |
| 01:06.34 | ckknight | I'm best known from the WoW addon community, Jack[RCDF |
| 01:07.06 | Bifuu | im known from no where anymore xD |
| 01:07.19 | Shaki | im from hiveworkshop |
| 01:07.28 | Bifuu | so thast why your name sounded familiar haha i was trying to figure that out |
| 01:07.30 | Jack[RCDF | Corbo and myself from SEN, sixen too a bit |
| 01:08.05 | Bifuu | i was on SEN a loooooooooooong time ago |
| 01:08.08 | Jack[RCDF | Doesn't sixen have his own WoW item? |
| 01:08.17 | Bifuu | i dont even remember my name i went by back then |
| 01:08.23 | ckknight | Sixen is the CM of diablofans |
| 01:09.29 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 01:09.41 | Shaki | im from alot of places |
| 01:09.55 | Jack[RCDF | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43840 |
| 01:10.46 | Jack[RCDF | Sixen's item |
| 01:10.53 | ckknight | lol, that's cool |
| 01:11.03 | Bifuu | only a green pfft |
| 01:11.28 | Shaki | xD |
| 01:12.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jack[RCDF (~JACK@121.90.164.63) |
| 01:12.29 | Jack[RCDF | Woops |
| 01:12.37 | Jack[RCDF | Read the comments too hehe |
| 01:13.23 | ckknight | anyone up for playing doubles? |
| 01:13.28 | ckknight | gonna reboot to Windows |
| 01:14.38 | Bifuu | theres some interesting things in these xmls |
| 01:14.45 | Jack[RCDF | Yep |
| 01:14.56 | Bifuu | KillXPValues |
| 01:14.59 | Bifuu | Taunts |
| 01:15.14 | Jack[RCDF | So they DID manage to put in xp |
| 01:15.26 | Jack[RCDF | They were considering it |
| 01:15.35 | Shaki | no they were gonna |
| 01:15.36 | Shaki | lol |
| 01:16.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster ckknight (~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 01:16.05 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 01:16.33 | HP2 | fyi (according to Luso.kevn, satan of the sc2 beta boards): opening the files in notepad is considered reverse engineering and breaking the agreement! :O |
| 01:16.59 | Jack[RCDF | lulwut |
| 01:17.30 | Jack[RCDF | Technically bots on SC1 break the agreement too, and iccup |
| 01:17.50 | Bifuu | dont know who that guy is so i dont care what he thinks =D |
| 01:17.54 | HP2 | and dmca! |
| 01:18.00 | HP2 | god bless america :D |
| 01:18.04 | Jack[RCDF | For that matter, blizz could sue korean progaming for the mods run on those |
| 01:18.25 | HP2 | Bifuu no one cares what they think :p |
| 01:18.37 | HP2 | if blizzard did, that thread would have been removed hours ago |
| 01:18.46 | Bifuu | true stuff |
| 01:22.02 | Corbo | brb dinner |
| 01:34.27 | Jack[RCDF | Brb afternoon tea |
| 01:41.57 | Remy__ | hmm |
| 01:42.17 | Remy__ | for editing galaxy it seems easiest to me to use an advanced text editor like notepad++ |
| 01:42.24 | Remy__ | and turn on syntax highlighting for c |
| 01:42.50 | Remy__ | instead of using some conjured up text editor from Milkyway editor |
| 01:43.12 | HP2 | sooo sixen, you know maged too? =D |
| 01:45.57 | HP-zzz | m |
| 01:45.58 | HP-zzz | nn |
| 01:49.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Remy__ (~5ed309d4@gateway/web/freenode/x-gvlvzvfkrqecuvsj) |
| 01:49.58 | Remy__ | so any requests for features to be added to galaxy? |
| 01:51.27 | ckknight | waves at Remy__ |
| 01:51.31 | ckknight | yea, WTB malloc |
| 01:51.33 | ckknight | :P |
| 01:51.44 | Remy__ | right yeah |
| 01:51.45 | Remy__ | too bad |
| 01:51.50 | ckknight | on our wiki |
| 01:51.54 | ckknight | in the Galaxy Language page |
| 01:51.59 | ckknight | we put a list of bad parts |
| 01:52.10 | ckknight | btw, that part of the wiki is open, so feel free to edit it. |
| 01:52.36 | ckknight | also, when I see your name, I think of Remy LeBeau |
| 01:52.59 | ckknight | my gf says you're nowhere near as cool as Remy LeBeau, though |
| 01:53.34 | Remy__ | so |
| 01:53.53 | Remy__ | the programs global memory usage is constant right? |
| 01:54.15 | Remy__ | who's that guy? I've never heard of Remy LeBeau, so I don't he compares |
| 01:54.44 | Remy__ | O yeah xmen |
| 01:54.59 | ckknight | Remy__: no, it's not necessarily constant |
| 01:55.03 | Remy__ | you're girlfriend is that nerdy? =D |
| 01:55.10 | ckknight | yea, she's pretty nerdy. |
| 01:55.14 | Remy__ | hehe |
| 01:55.18 | ckknight | the global memory usage is as such: |
| 01:55.28 | ckknight | all globals, which is a constant |
| 01:55.33 | ckknight | and then anything currently in the stack |
| 01:55.38 | Remy__ | yeah that's what I ment |
| 01:55.41 | ckknight | the stack being (probably) up to 500 deep |
| 01:55.53 | ckknight | so yea, that prevents some serious memory issues |
| 01:55.55 | Remy__ | you can't store arbitrary data structures.. : / really lame |
| 01:55.57 | ckknight | but also creates new challenges |
| 01:56.05 | ckknight | yea, I want an arbitrarily-sized list. |
| 01:56.06 | Remy__ | yeah maybe just by using large arrays |
| 01:56.25 | ckknight | I actually wrote about that in http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-language/arrays/ |
| 01:57.15 | Remy__ | Well |
| 01:57.18 | ckknight | anyone up for playing doubles? |
| 01:57.23 | Remy__ | you can always try to store information by placing units on the map |
| 01:57.38 | ckknight | as it stands, units can't be created on-the-fly |
| 01:57.44 | ckknight | which I'm sure is an oversight they'll fix later |
| 01:57.55 | Remy__ | what's doubles? |
| 01:58.22 | Remy__ | Yeah they must have all the functions that were in wc3 right |
| 01:58.34 | Remy__ | How do you know what functions exist and which don't ? |
| 01:58.47 | Remy__ | Just from looking at the galaxy files present in the sc2 beta? |
| 01:59.52 | ckknight | doubles = 2v2 |
| 02:00.04 | ckknight | Remy__: actually by mining the exe |
| 02:00.05 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 02:00.07 | ckknight | afaik. |
| 02:00.20 | Remy__ | hmm |
| 02:00.22 | ckknight | vjeux is the one who got the list |
| 02:00.41 | Remy__ | Well for the campaign they need many more native functions |
| 02:00.44 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:00.49 | ckknight | Remy__: do you have an SC2 account? |
| 02:00.51 | Remy__ | so they're probably already present, but not in the beta |
| 02:00.53 | ckknight | also, NA or EU? |
| 02:00.56 | Remy__ | No I don't |
| 02:01.12 | Remy__ | So you do |
| 02:01.12 | ckknight | k, add yourself to the Prospects sheet on http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AonLKgumHH_adGo5aDhqY2h3OUppN3p6ZVpVTV9UTHc&hl=en |
| 02:01.13 | Remy__ | fun for you |
| 02:03.35 | Bifuu | id do 2s but id prolly just drag you down with me haha |
| 02:04.53 | Bifuu | im copper in singles and silver in doubles with another guy thats silver in singles |
| 02:08.31 | Remy__ | How'd you guys get closed beta keys in the first place? |
| 02:08.41 | ckknight | through Curse for me |
| 02:08.53 | Bifuu | i got in wave 2 via opt in |
| 02:09.04 | Remy__ | sweet |
| 02:09.12 | Remy__ | so what role do you play at Curse? |
| 02:09.49 | ckknight | Software Architect |
| 02:09.56 | ckknight | I created sc2mapster, curseforge, wowace |
| 02:10.01 | ckknight | and working on a new secret project |
| 02:11.01 | Remy__ | so the content is secret, but not the existance.. =D |
| 02:11.55 | Gnarfoz | someone just rushed me (successfully) with his SCVs and a bunch of marines o_O |
| 02:12.14 | Bifuu | haha |
| 02:12.46 | Bifuu | i played a game last night in 2s and they Planetary Fortress rushed my teammate, and won |
| 02:12.47 | Gnarfoz | and he built a new command center just before wiping me out |
| 02:12.52 | Gnarfoz | in my base! |
| 02:13.16 | Gnarfoz | (this was not his own one, flown over, he used one of the ~10 SCVs to build one, wtf) |
| 02:14.05 | Bifuu | lol |
| 02:14.31 | Shirik | maybe he thought you wouldn't look there |
| 02:14.35 | Shirik | "hidden in plain sight" |
| 02:16.28 | Bifuu | i dont know why but ive been staring at the weapondata.xml for like the past 10 minutes lol, i basically figured out what everything is too O.o |
| 02:21.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster sulleric (sulleric@64.189.127.39) |
| 02:22.56 | sulleric | Hello custom map enthusiasts |
| 02:24.04 | Bifuu | yo |
| 02:24.06 | Shaki | HAI |
| 02:24.18 | Shaki | :o |
| 02:24.59 | Shaki | 40 mins on sc2 dl |
| 02:25.00 | Shaki | xD |
| 02:25.13 | Bifuu | was about to ask you about that haha |
| 02:26.29 | Shaki | xD |
| 02:26.42 | Shaki | omg dude |
| 02:26.49 | Shaki | on this turtle toss game |
| 02:26.53 | Shaki | i unlocked almost all achievements |
| 02:26.54 | Shaki | lol |
| 02:26.58 | Bifuu | lol |
| 02:29.55 | Shaki | my record is 275k ft |
| 02:29.56 | Shaki | XD |
| 02:31.08 | ckknight | hey sulleric |
| 02:32.00 | ckknight | Bifuu: the trick is to document it on our wiki. |
| 02:32.15 | ckknight | Bifuu: if you do, make sure to use the <<xmldoc>> thing I made |
| 02:32.46 | Bifuu | uhh sure, but first what is this xmldoc thing you made? haha |
| 02:33.07 | Bifuu | there an example of it to look at? |
| 02:34.14 | Bifuu | oh its the syntax coloring? like its used in unitdata? |
| 02:37.15 | Shaki | woot tank |
| 02:38.52 | sulleric | I just beat the tower defense on my fourth attempt :D |
| 02:39.09 | sulleric | Excellent work, I'm extremely pleased by what I see. |
| 02:40.18 | Shaki | so |
| 02:40.20 | Shaki | sulleric |
| 02:40.24 | Shaki | do you make maps |
| 02:40.26 | Shaki | or play em? |
| 02:40.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Thunder_Child (~Thunder_C@adsl-71-130-214-49.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:42.16 | Shaki | time to go at a record lenght |
| 02:42.18 | Shaki | xD |
| 02:42.22 | sulleric | I just play them |
| 02:42.30 | sulleric | I love UMS games |
| 02:43.49 | Shaki | i make n play |
| 02:43.51 | Shaki | xD |
| 02:45.21 | Shaki | record 905k |
| 02:45.23 | Shaki | rofl |
| 02:46.18 | sulleric | When's the next map coming? I want to see more :D |
| 02:46.23 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:46.24 | Shaki | haha |
| 02:46.32 | Shaki | the real editor isnt even out yet |
| 02:46.33 | ckknight | I doubt I'll do my mapmaking work until the official editor is ready |
| 02:46.33 | Shaki | xD |
| 02:46.36 | ckknight | until then, just documenting |
| 02:46.41 | Shaki | wow |
| 02:46.42 | Thunder_Child | read: lazy |
| 02:46.46 | sulleric | haha |
| 02:46.47 | Shaki | me and ckknight have the same minds |
| 02:46.48 | Shaki | xD |
| 02:47.10 | Shaki | btw ck |
| 02:47.13 | Shaki | that should scare you. |
| 02:47.22 | sulleric | I might dive into some mapmaking then, I've always had pretty strong opinions about what makes a good map, and I'm a decent programmer |
| 02:48.11 | ckknight | cool, sulleric |
| 02:48.14 | Shaki | programming isnt coding |
| 02:48.20 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:48.20 | Shaki | wtf did i just say |
| 02:48.25 | Shaki | slaps himself. |
| 02:48.43 | ckknight | sulleric: well, the forum has an ideas forum, feel free to post in there |
| 02:49.00 | Shaki | you mean project brainstorming? |
| 02:49.01 | ckknight | anyone up for doubles now? |
| 02:49.01 | Shaki | x |
| 02:49.03 | Shaki | xD* |
| 02:49.05 | ckknight | yea, that's what I mean. |
| 02:49.05 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 02:49.12 | Bifuu | Check that ck |
| 02:49.17 | Bifuu | see if thats what you want |
| 02:49.42 | Bifuu | Darn repo bot made it so i cant surprise no one =( |
| 02:50.16 | ckknight | Bifuu: you copied the wrong file |
| 02:50.18 | Shaki | xD |
| 02:50.18 | ckknight | look at the other xml files |
| 02:50.21 | ckknight | look for <<xmldoc>> |
| 02:50.36 | Bifuu | well thatw as in the Unitdata xml =/ |
| 02:51.34 | Shaki | afk |
| 02:51.56 | Bifuu | oh like the model |
| 02:51.59 | Bifuu | k i got this |
| 02:52.19 | sulleric | Is any of the source code included/viewable in the map files that are up for download? I'd like to just look at the code for the TD game |
| 02:53.12 | Shaki | yea |
| 02:53.14 | Shaki | the td is |
| 02:53.20 | Shaki | dl galaxyeditor |
| 02:53.23 | Shaki | erm |
| 02:53.27 | Shaki | milkywayeditor |
| 02:57.26 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 02:57.32 | Bifuu | That better? |
| 02:58.40 | Bifuu | ill have to fix the value description, wasnt expecting it to separate like that haha |
| 03:00.27 | ckknight | excellent, Bifuu |
| 03:00.39 | ckknight | the Unitdata.xml needs to be fixed |
| 03:00.42 | Bifuu | alright ill get on with adding the rest |
| 03:00.58 | Bifuu | the nerd inside of me is having fun with this, should i be scared? |
| 03:01.42 | ckknight | definitely not |
| 03:02.11 | ckknight | btw, when you add more, rename the file to WeaponData.xml |
| 03:02.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster TC-Away (~Thunder_C@WoWUIDev/PITA/TC) |
| 03:02.40 | Bifuu | k |
| 03:03.08 | Shaki | less than 10 mins |
| 03:03.09 | Shaki | xD |
| 03:06.22 | sulleric | I'm getting an exception when I try to open the map with the MilkyWayEditor: "Object reference not set to an instance of an object." |
| 03:14.25 | Shaki | OMG OMG ONMG OMG |
| 03:14.27 | Shaki | 1 minute |
| 03:14.53 | Shirik | sulleric: That is a symptom of use of inferior languages |
| 03:14.57 | Shirik | it is unavoidable |
| 03:16.33 | Shaki | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 03:16.35 | Shaki | DL IS DONE |
| 03:16.36 | Shaki | <3 |
| 03:17.06 | sulleric | Shirik, any idea where to start to fix it? |
| 03:17.22 | Shaki | installing |
| 03:17.23 | Shirik | heh, not a clue. My solution would be "gtfo of .NET" |
| 03:17.23 | Shaki | xD |
| 03:18.22 | Shaki | guess what |
| 03:18.24 | Shaki | im installing |
| 03:18.27 | ckknight | ...what's your problem, Shirik? |
| 03:18.43 | Shirik | ckknight you take me way too seriously |
| 03:18.48 | ckknight | yes. |
| 03:19.02 | ckknight | sulleric: ask nicoli_s for access to the code |
| 03:19.37 | Sixen | I'm alive. |
| 03:19.41 | ckknight | howdy, Sixen |
| 03:19.44 | Shaki | Sixen! |
| 03:19.44 | Shirik | no you're not |
| 03:19.47 | Shaki | SIXEN!!! |
| 03:19.50 | Shaki | SIXEN!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:19.51 | Shirik | WE STILL HAVE NOT FINISHED OUR GAMES |
| 03:19.54 | Shirik | OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE DEAD |
| 03:19.58 | ckknight | Shirik: I challenge thee! |
| 03:20.03 | Shirik | no I'm scared of you |
| 03:20.08 | Shirik | sixen + me vs you and someone |
| 03:20.09 | Shirik | imo |
| 03:20.16 | ckknight | k |
| 03:20.20 | Shaki | im almost done installing |
| 03:20.20 | Shaki | <3 |
| 03:20.21 | ckknight | who wants in on my team? |
| 03:20.34 | Shaki | brb |
| 03:20.51 | Sixen | :o |
| 03:21.02 | Shirik | yes you have been volunteered Sixen |
| 03:21.03 | Shirik | get over it |
| 03:21.18 | Shirik | there is no backing out |
| 03:21.48 | Shaki | ooo cool music |
| 03:21.51 | Shaki | once you finish |
| 03:21.53 | Shaki | installing |
| 03:22.04 | ckknight | do you have a key now, Shaki? |
| 03:22.22 | Shaki | no |
| 03:22.24 | Shaki | lol |
| 03:22.31 | Shaki | so |
| 03:22.36 | Shaki | now i've dld and installed |
| 03:22.42 | Shaki | how do i play singleplayer? |
| 03:22.48 | Sixen | ? |
| 03:22.49 | Shirik | you wait about a year |
| 03:22.54 | ckknight | you need a crack or something |
| 03:23.10 | Shirik | though |
| 03:23.14 | Shirik | you CAN start a game with you as the only player |
| 03:23.22 | Shirik | you win right away but you can keep playing |
| 03:24.22 | Sixen | hm |
| 03:24.25 | Sixen | nicoli_s, you around? |
| 03:26.02 | ckknight | who wants to play doubles? |
| 03:27.23 | Bifuu | i can do doubles i guess |
| 03:27.36 | Bifuu | im eh lol |
| 03:27.40 | ckknight | you in NA? |
| 03:27.43 | Bifuu | indeed |
| 03:28.18 | Bifuu | just finished documenting zealot stuff atleast haha |
| 03:28.20 | ckknight | what's your name in SC2? |
| 03:28.26 | Bifuu | Bifuu.bifuu |
| 03:28.38 | ckknight | add yourself to http://averageurl.com/sc2/ |
| 03:28.38 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 03:29.18 | ckknight | Bifuu: you defined <Effect> twice |
| 03:29.35 | Bifuu | really? |
| 03:29.42 | Bifuu | dang it |
| 03:30.19 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 03:30.25 | Bifuu | i dont know what your talking about |
| 03:30.49 | Bifuu | and do these google things save automatically or is the save button hidden? |
| 03:30.59 | ckknight | automatic |
| 03:31.08 | Bifuu | k |
| 03:31.39 | Sixen | good job with the weapondata, bifuu =) |
| 03:31.45 | Shirik | ckknight you doing this? |
| 03:31.50 | Shirik | cide and I will play you |
| 03:31.56 | Bifuu | thanks just gatta finish the rest |
| 03:31.56 | Sixen | I gotta redo AchievementData. And we need to redo UnitData with the new style. |
| 03:32.03 | ckknight | Shirik: um, okay |
| 03:32.10 | Shirik | who's your partner! |
| 03:33.02 | ckknight | Bifuu: I choose you |
| 03:33.29 | Bifuu | im online |
| 03:44.23 | Shaki | HELL |
| 03:44.26 | Shaki | ITS ABOUT TIME |
| 03:44.27 | Shaki | lol. |
| 03:44.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Corbo (~thecorbo@190.87.68.222) |
| 03:44.49 | Corbo | ckk are you here? |
| 03:44.58 | Shaki | its CK knight |
| 03:45.00 | Shaki | yeeeesh |
| 03:45.43 | Corbo | yeah but writing everything after ckk is just hard |
| 03:45.44 | Corbo | :P |
| 03:45.48 | Corbo | still, he isn't here |
| 03:46.09 | Shaki | STUPID MOTHER FUCKING ASSWHIPE UPDATES |
| 03:46.10 | Shaki | lol |
| 03:46.28 | Shaki | when i get back |
| 03:46.35 | Shaki | it better be done updating. |
| 03:46.36 | Shaki | brb |
| 03:47.31 | Shaki | back |
| 03:47.41 | Shaki | *shoots updater* |
| 03:47.42 | Shaki | lol |
| 03:47.48 | Corbo | what's updating? |
| 03:47.49 | Corbo | sc2? |
| 03:47.54 | Shaki | ye |
| 03:48.07 | Corbo | interesting |
| 03:48.42 | Shaki | i cant wait |
| 03:48.47 | Shaki | ima pwn those dumbass AI |
| 03:48.48 | Shaki | xD |
| 03:48.57 | Shaki | even though i dl'd an AI thingy |
| 03:49.02 | Shaki | that makes em rape you. |
| 03:49.40 | Shaki | when im done updating |
| 03:49.44 | Shaki | ima make a reference |
| 03:49.45 | Shaki | xD |
| 03:50.33 | Shaki | take a guess |
| 03:50.38 | Shaki | its from a cinematic |
| 03:50.58 | Corbo | wut |
| 03:51.04 | Corbo | you ahve to make the reference fisrt |
| 03:51.05 | Shaki | the reference |
| 03:51.08 | Shaki | lol o |
| 03:51.08 | Corbo | so I can guess |
| 03:51.17 | Shaki | well it has to update rist |
| 03:51.28 | Corbo | and ckk still doesn't come back |
| 03:51.50 | Corbo | let's make a summon |
| 03:51.55 | Corbo | and bring ckk to the irc |
| 03:51.59 | Corbo | what do we need? |
| 03:52.06 | Shaki | clicks on the summoning stone. |
| 03:52.18 | Corbo | summoning stone, virgin's blood |
| 03:52.20 | Corbo | what else? |
| 03:52.28 | Corbo | garlic? |
| 03:52.37 | Shaki | wait for it.. |
| 03:53.03 | Corbo | but that's no fun |
| 03:53.12 | Shaki | HELL, ITS ABOUT TIME. *closes helmet* |
| 03:53.22 | Shaki | xD |
| 03:53.39 | Corbo | seriously |
| 03:53.45 | Corbo | what's with people idling so much |
| 03:54.19 | Corbo | go on bnet |
| 03:54.25 | Corbo | and yell at ckk if he's online |
| 03:54.59 | Shaki | lol dude |
| 03:55.03 | Shaki | i got no beta |
| 03:55.05 | Shaki | i got crack |
| 03:55.05 | Shaki | :P |
| 03:55.23 | Corbo | oh |
| 03:55.24 | Shaki | SWEET SWEET CRACK |
| 03:55.26 | Corbo | I thought you did |
| 03:55.35 | Corbo | still |
| 03:55.37 | Corbo | hax it |
| 03:55.39 | Corbo | and get on bnet |
| 03:55.40 | Corbo | :P |
| 03:57.31 | Corbo | hai |
| 03:57.35 | Corbo | oic |
| 03:57.37 | Sixen | :O |
| 03:57.41 | Sixen | hai2u corbmeister |
| 03:57.43 | Corbo | SIXEN! |
| 03:57.47 | Corbo | bring ckk back |
| 03:58.16 | Sixen | ~summon ckk |
| 03:58.17 | purl | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing ckk's coordinates |
| 03:58.18 | Sixen | ckknight |
| 03:58.59 | Shaki | SEXIN |
| 03:59.02 | Shaki | i mean.. |
| 03:59.06 | Shaki | SIXEN!!!! |
| 03:59.26 | Shaki | i played the map you guys made |
| 03:59.32 | Shaki | it made no sense! |
| 03:59.33 | Shaki | xD |
| 03:59.47 | Shaki | ima play the beta now |
| 03:59.53 | Shaki | well |
| 03:59.54 | Shaki | the ai |
| 03:59.54 | Shaki | lol |
| 04:00.00 | Corbo | LOL |
| 04:00.04 | Corbo | that's awesome |
| 04:00.07 | Corbo | ~summon ckk |
| 04:00.08 | purl | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing ckk's coordinates |
| 04:00.10 | Corbo | aw |
| 04:00.13 | Corbo | oh it worked |
| 04:01.20 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:01.27 | Shaki | sexin |
| 04:01.38 | Shaki | i luv this ai |
| 04:01.40 | Shaki | its so.. |
| 04:01.43 | Shaki | fun.. |
| 04:02.02 | Shaki | back to playin |
| 04:03.11 | Sixen | =] |
| 04:03.40 | Corbo | so what else can we do? |
| 04:03.43 | Corbo | ~cmdlist |
| 04:03.47 | Corbo | ~commands |
| 04:03.51 | Sixen | ~help |
| 04:03.53 | Corbo | ~trivia >.> |
| 04:03.56 | Sixen | It's ~help |
| 04:03.59 | Sixen | it'll message you |
| 04:04.00 | Sixen | :p |
| 04:04.20 | Corbo | it told me "somebody already said that 8 seconds ago" |
| 04:04.32 | Corbo | ~help |
| 04:05.21 | Corbo | ~where can I find @ckknight? |
| 04:05.31 | Corbo | QQ |
| 04:05.50 | Corbo | scramble |
| 04:05.55 | Corbo | ~scramble |
| 04:06.00 | Corbo | omg |
| 04:06.26 | Shaki | WOW |
| 04:06.28 | Shaki | WOOOOOOOOOOW |
| 04:06.34 | Corbo | ~wtf |
| 04:06.35 | Shaki | The graphics are so high |
| 04:06.43 | Shaki | they fck up MY computer |
| 04:06.44 | Shaki | WOOOOOOOW |
| 04:06.57 | Corbo | ~wtf corbo |
| 04:07.06 | Corbo | loooool |
| 04:07.10 | Corbo | ~wtf sixen |
| 04:07.17 | Corbo | ~wtf hi |
| 04:07.22 | Corbo | WUT |
| 04:07.25 | Thunder_Child | wtf is for acronyms |
| 04:07.30 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf wtf |
| 04:07.30 | Corbo | oh? |
| 04:07.38 | Corbo | ~wtf lmao |
| 04:07.54 | Corbo | ~wtf omgwtfbbq |
| 04:08.09 | Thunder_Child | and it doesnt have everything |
| 04:08.18 | Thunder_Child | ~botsnack |
| 04:08.18 | purl | Thunder_Child: aw, gee |
| 04:09.14 | Sixen | ~lard corbo |
| 04:09.22 | Sixen | ~lart corbo |
| 04:09.22 | purl | pries corbo's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to corbo |
| 04:09.23 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:09.23 | Thunder_Child | T Sixen |
| 04:09.27 | Shaki | ~porn and cookies |
| 04:09.33 | Sixen | o..rly..? |
| 04:09.38 | Shaki | ok high settings are good for me |
| 04:09.43 | Shaki | ultra is too good |
| 04:09.44 | Shaki | :'( |
| 04:09.51 | Corbo | :C |
| 04:10.04 | Corbo | I can't play on anything but low |
| 04:10.14 | Ackis | there we go, xfire/raptr loaded, SC2 beta running... let those hours roll in! :D |
| 04:10.17 | Shaki | i CAN play ultra |
| 04:10.20 | Shaki | just laggy |
| 04:10.20 | Shaki | lol |
| 04:10.33 | Corbo | I can't |
| 04:10.35 | Corbo | it crashes |
| 04:10.37 | Corbo | ;o |
| 04:11.04 | Corbo | ~seen ckknight |
| 04:11.05 | purl | ckknight is currently on #waruidev (2h 55m) #sc2mapster (2h 55m) #wowuidev (2h 55m) #wowace (2h 55m) #curseforge (2h 55m). Has said a total of 69 messages. Is idling for 38m 3s, last said: 'Bifuu: I choose you'. |
| 04:11.30 | Corbo | "bifuu: I choose you" |
| 04:12.31 | Shaki | lol |
| 04:18.17 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:18.18 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 04:18.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Hunter_Killers (Hunter_Kil@S0106001fc67332fe.va.shawcable.net) |
| 04:19.14 | Corbo | finalllly |
| 04:19.29 | Corbo | http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9388/hai.png |
| 04:19.40 | Corbo | dl: http://www.mediafire.com/?hzktywzmyhy |
| 04:20.02 | Corbo | if you want to use them. |
| 04:22.05 | Corbo | oh dear god he left again |
| 04:22.31 | Sixen | lmao |
| 04:22.33 | Sixen | ckknight |
| 04:22.47 | Sixen | hm corbo, whered' you find those png's? |
| 04:22.58 | Shaki | sc2 makes my pc feel shitty |
| 04:22.58 | Shaki | lol |
| 04:23.15 | Corbo | in the mpqs of course ;o |
| 04:23.27 | Sixen | What're they used for? |
| 04:23.27 | Corbo | they were .dds, though. |
| 04:23.30 | Sixen | Upgrades, etc? |
| 04:23.31 | Sixen | oh |
| 04:23.32 | Corbo | they're the buttons? |
| 04:23.33 | Shaki | sixen |
| 04:23.33 | Corbo | :P |
| 04:23.34 | Sixen | You converted them, I assume? |
| 04:23.37 | Corbo | ya |
| 04:23.39 | Corbo | and |
| 04:23.41 | Shaki | what quality do you play in |
| 04:23.41 | Sixen | ah OK |
| 04:23.46 | Sixen | Platinum, shaki. |
| 04:23.46 | Shaki | high medium low ultra custom? |
| 04:23.49 | Sixen | oh |
| 04:23.50 | Sixen | Ultra |
| 04:23.53 | Shaki | FKC |
| 04:23.55 | Corbo | The glassy looking blue thing |
| 04:23.58 | Corbo | is pasted over them |
| 04:24.01 | Shaki | and my computer costed ALOT |
| 04:24.03 | Shaki | lol |
| 04:24.05 | Corbo | cause in reality they're just the image. |
| 04:24.11 | Shaki | i got quad core to.... |
| 04:24.14 | Corbo | no flasssssshy glassy thingy |
| 04:24.29 | Corbo | wtf is platinium? |
| 04:24.54 | Sixen | Ladder league =| |
| 04:25.03 | Sixen | The top league ;) |
| 04:25.46 | Gnarfoz | I got into bronze with 3:7! |
| 04:25.51 | Corbo | mesk played on my tileset http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y1sHo27NJo |
| 04:26.00 | Sixen | :O |
| 04:26.15 | Gnarfoz | 5 years of WoW killed all of my RTS skills :( |
| 04:27.02 | Corbo | I just realised the bumps don't work. |
| 04:27.04 | Gnarfoz | (not that I played SC much back then, more CnC and WC3 - and I've only got sc2 beta for a day now ;)) |
| 04:27.10 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:27.29 | Corbo | since my low quality sc2 doesn't even let me see the bump maps |
| 04:27.33 | Corbo | I never knew until now |
| 04:30.38 | Corbo | now everyone's gone |
| 04:32.01 | Gnarfoz | is gone to bed, indeed |
| 04:33.00 | Shaki | O |
| 04:33.12 | Shaki | i ahad my screen resolution |
| 04:33.17 | Shaki | higher than needed |
| 04:33.20 | Shaki | now its not laggy |
| 04:33.21 | Shaki | xD |
| 04:33.47 | Corbo | let's see what happens if I highen my settings |
| 04:44.42 | Corbo | lool |
| 04:44.50 | Corbo | I can set some of the stuff to ultra |
| 04:44.54 | Corbo | but I lag like hell |
| 04:45.07 | Corbo | but it'd be enough to take screenshots of my units on high res |
| 04:45.13 | Corbo | cause on low res they sux |
| 04:45.20 | Corbo | let's try that terran zealot I made earlier |
| 04:46.20 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, I just won a match |
| 04:46.26 | Shirik | the key to victory: imo it was the 95 SCVs |
| 04:47.24 | Bifuu | or playing a bad person *cough me* |
| 04:48.18 | Shaki | guysd |
| 04:48.21 | Shaki | is it possible |
| 04:48.24 | Shirik | you're not bad |
| 04:48.25 | Shirik | I promise |
| 04:48.28 | Shaki | to play with someone else |
| 04:48.31 | Shaki | no beta key? |
| 04:50.17 | Corbo | oh yeah and it took like 5 minutes to load one map |
| 04:50.18 | Corbo | lool |
| 04:50.50 | Bifuu | no shaki |
| 04:50.59 | Shaki | i thought ther was |
| 04:51.17 | Shaki | ill just have to get a legit key then |
| 04:51.18 | Shaki | :'( |
| 04:51.54 | Bifuu | nope just ai |
| 04:52.58 | Shaki | LOL CORBO |
| 04:53.00 | Shaki | you got dissed |
| 04:53.01 | Shaki | XD |
| 04:55.17 | Jerub | dear protoss: void ray rush = attack now and win |
| 04:55.52 | Shirik | dear protoss: void ray rush = lol void rays are so easy to defeat |
| 04:56.10 | Shaki | lol protoss is not longer my fav |
| 04:56.11 | Jerub | Shirik: yeah, i was like, "OMG MY SCOUTING MARINE JUST SAW A VOID RAY <3" |
| 04:56.11 | Shaki | :P |
| 04:56.22 | Shaki | terran now |
| 04:56.23 | Shaki | ftw |
| 04:56.27 | Jerub | yeah, i play terran |
| 04:56.31 | Shaki | protoss is a closs second |
| 04:56.33 | Jerub | who wants to play a game? |
| 04:56.55 | Jerub | easy win. |
| 04:57.05 | Jerub | i just had a defensive M&M force up and i'm like... yaaay |
| 04:57.13 | Jerub | i'd already started expansion so i just didn't care about his void rays. |
| 04:57.23 | Shaki | gnight. |
| 04:58.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jack[RCDF (~JACK@121.90.65.48) |
| 04:58.52 | Corbo | omgt it looks so amazing |
| 04:58.53 | Jack[RCDF | Yo corbo |
| 04:58.59 | Corbo | why didn't I try this before |
| 04:59.02 | Corbo | ya? |
| 04:59.45 | Jack[RCDF | Can you write up a quick tutorial on how to edit terrain for SC2 and put it in the terrain section? |
| 04:59.57 | Jack[RCDF | At SEN ofc |
| 05:00.05 | Jerub | *does 1v1 random again* |
| 05:00.29 | Jack[RCDF | Hopefully it'll get people going on more SC2 sections of SEN |
| 05:01.24 | Corbo | ...what SC2 sections of sen? |
| 05:01.34 | Jack[RCDF | There are none |
| 05:01.53 | Corbo | you meant "other than SEN" then? |
| 05:01.55 | Jack[RCDF | So if ppl start writimg tutes and making maps for sc2 |
| 05:02.10 | Corbo | I MADE A MAP FOR SC2 |
| 05:02.12 | Corbo | MOOSE |
| 05:02.13 | Jack[RCDF | It might get dev or IP to do something about sc2 |
| 05:02.14 | Corbo | IP¨ |
| 05:02.17 | Bifuu | WEll you cant edit terrain yet |
| 05:02.19 | Corbo | WHERE DO I PUT IT??? |
| 05:02.23 | Bifuu | unless you mean the tileset |
| 05:02.32 | Corbo | You can edit terrain ;o |
| 05:02.36 | Jack[RCDF | Bifuu, yes, tileset |
| 05:02.41 | Corbo | well |
| 05:02.48 | Corbo | doodads at least ;o |
| 05:02.54 | Bifuu | lol |
| 05:02.55 | Jack[RCDF | Do one for tilesets, one for terrain |
| 05:03.27 | Jack[RCDF | In fact, i'll do the tileset one if you tell me where the dds's are located |
| 05:03.37 | Corbo | I still don't get what the point would be. |
| 05:03.47 | Jack[RCDF | And what xmls need to be changed, if any |
| 05:04.18 | Jack[RCDF | At the very least we'd have some SC2 content |
| 05:04.38 | Corbo | http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2557/screenshot072s.jpg |
| 05:04.38 | Corbo | http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4694/screenshot073s.jpg |
| 05:04.38 | Corbo | http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6950/screenshot074ra.jpg |
| 05:04.38 | Corbo | http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4795/screenshot075o.jpg |
| 05:04.38 | Corbo | http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6438/screenshot076pu.jpg |
| 05:04.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0330.bb.online.no) |
| 05:05.01 | Bifuu | yay for Terran Zealots! |
| 05:05.05 | Corbo | you can totally see SC2 yelling at me to lower my settings |
| 05:05.07 | Zoxc | question: why does the site look like shit? |
| 05:05.14 | Corbo | lool |
| 05:05.41 | Corbo | also, zany, they're not a general dds for all tuilesets |
| 05:05.54 | Corbo | there's a lot of them, all of them named differently. |
| 05:05.56 | Jack[RCDF | :o? |
| 05:05.59 | Bifuu | Zoxc answer: its new? |
| 05:06.06 | Jack[RCDF | Yeah i know |
| 05:06.33 | Corbo | they're all in the assets mpq |
| 05:06.39 | Corbo | base.sc2assets or something |
| 05:06.50 | Jack[RCDF | So explain which ones need to be changed, how to change them, and where they are in the mpq. Viola, instant tute |
| 05:06.53 | Corbo | I won't start listing cause it's just pointless |
| 05:07.05 | Corbo | I won't. |
| 05:07.07 | Jack[RCDF | :/ |
| 05:07.08 | Corbo | not on SEN anyway. |
| 05:07.22 | Corbo | until it actually starts givign SC2 support. |
| 05:07.32 | Jack[RCDF | is mildly confused |
| 05:07.37 | Jack[RCDF | Ah |
| 05:08.03 | Jack[RCDF | I'm saying that this would force ppl to support sc2 |
| 05:08.28 | Jack[RCDF | Afk, dinner |
| 05:09.24 | Corbo | no it won't. |
| 05:09.59 | Sixen | Really nice, Corbo :) |
| 05:10.21 | Corbo | yes |
| 05:10.27 | Corbo | and after taking each screenshot |
| 05:10.31 | Corbo | it also took me like |
| 05:10.38 | Corbo | 30 seconds to get back playing |
| 05:10.45 | Sixen | Kinda reminds me of Scorpion from Mortal Kombat |
| 05:10.46 | Sixen | lol |
| 05:11.04 | Corbo | so what I'll do is like |
| 05:11.08 | Corbo | set everything to low |
| 05:11.28 | Corbo | and when map loads set everything I can to ultra (alrerady memorized what I can have on ultra) |
| 05:11.37 | Corbo | then when I'm done taking pretty screenshots of my work |
| 05:11.41 | Sixen | =D |
| 05:11.47 | Corbo | I'll set everything back to low |
| 05:11.52 | Corbo | so it doesn't affect the load time. |
| 05:16.39 | Corbo | and ckk needs to come back again |
| 05:16.48 | Corbo | and aactually pay battention this time |
| 05:17.41 | Corbo | brb |
| 05:21.37 | ckknight | and if I refuse? |
| 05:24.29 | Jerub | wooo |
| 05:24.38 | Jerub | someone thought i was protoss and went for early anti-air defense. |
| 05:24.40 | Jerub | M&M nailed then |
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| 05:26.32 | Shirik | protoss = go AA? |
| 05:26.34 | Shirik | what? |
| 05:26.52 | Shirik | protoss to me = mess with economy, hit early |
| 05:31.19 | ckknight | Zoxc: be constructive |
| 05:32.19 | Zoxc | ok, what can we do to make the site look less like shit? |
| 05:32.30 | ckknight | by using such terms, you only look like an ass |
| 05:32.35 | ckknight | go to /themes/ |
| 05:32.38 | ckknight | make your own |
| 05:42.38 | Jerub | Shirik: yeah, that's not the way i do it. |
| 05:42.44 | Jerub | i just go M&M&M and destroy them |
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| 05:42.54 | Jerub | voidray = yay no base defense, easy win |
| 05:42.58 | Corbo | back |
| 05:43.08 | Corbo | ckk here yet? |
| 05:43.22 | Jerub | he was playing a game with his boss or something earlier |
| 05:43.27 | ckknight | still am |
| 05:43.33 | Corbo | weee |
| 05:43.35 | ckknight | what's up, Corbo? |
| 05:43.38 | Corbo | did you see the icons? |
| 05:43.43 | ckknight | yea, pretty shiny |
| 05:43.49 | Corbo | k |
| 05:44.17 | Jerub | never done FFA before. *clicks* |
| 06:12.28 | Corbo | k |
| 06:12.31 | Corbo | I'm done for today |
| 06:15.15 | Jerub | yaaay |
| 06:15.18 | Jerub | i'm going really well. |
| 06:15.27 | Jerub | just used thors properly for the first time |
| 06:15.32 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.10 | Corbo | I mass thors |
| 06:16.23 | Corbo | get thors until 200 supply |
| 06:16.30 | Zoxc | nicoli_s: You should use Scintilla as the editor component of your map editor |
| 06:16.50 | Corbo | they help defend base meanwhile I'm not using them |
| 06:17.04 | Corbo | and then they own |
| 06:17.07 | Jerub | Corbo: sounds like a waste. |
| 06:17.08 | Corbo | cuz they so many |
| 06:17.09 | Corbo | ;o |
| 06:17.17 | Corbo | it isn't. |
| 06:17.18 | Jerub | i just owned with marines+maruaders+medivacs+thors |
| 06:17.36 | Corbo | It gives so much joy to see everything getting owned by boom bang pew explosions |
| 06:17.40 | Corbo | that it makes it worth it |
| 06:17.49 | Bifuu | i just got owned by marine maruaders medivacs and thors |
| 06:18.11 | Corbo | sounds like you two were playign together ;o |
| 06:18.20 | Bifuu | and BCs |
| 06:18.24 | Jerub | Corbo: ... really? |
| 06:18.29 | Jerub | er Bifuu ? |
| 06:18.32 | Jerub | oh, not BCs |
| 06:18.59 | Bifuu | im playing witha friend that new |
| 06:19.05 | Bifuu | like no sc1 or anything apparently |
| 06:19.07 | Bifuu | and yeah |
| 06:19.15 | Bifuu | im just playing zerg cause im ballas with zerg |
| 06:19.20 | Corbo | how does one get a sc2 beta key |
| 06:19.20 | Bifuu | balls |
| 06:19.24 | Corbo | without even knowing sc1 |
| 06:19.25 | Corbo | :C |
| 06:19.30 | Corbo | that just makes me sadder |
| 06:19.30 | Bifuu | luck or a good friend |
| 06:19.38 | Corbo | or did you give it to him? |
| 06:19.43 | Bifuu | nah |
| 06:20.04 | Corbo | anyway |
| 06:20.09 | Corbo | I really have to go now. |
| 06:20.10 | Corbo | bai |
| 06:20.18 | Bifuu | lata |
| 06:20.46 | Sixen | bacl |
| 06:28.24 | Jerub | how do you look up a user? |
| 06:28.29 | Jerub | like to find where they are on a laddder? |
| 06:29.12 | ckknight | why is Zoxc such a dick? |
| 06:36.32 | Sixen | hm? |
| 06:36.39 | Sixen | Don't think it's possible, Jerub. |
| 06:41.51 | Jerub | woo another victory of efficient build order and M&M&M |
| 06:42.36 | Jerub | lol, no one above me in the ladder has nearly as few victories as me |
| 06:42.39 | Jerub | i'm on 21. |
| 06:42.43 | Jerub | next highest is 33 |
| 06:53.49 | Bifuu | you know whats fun |
| 06:53.56 | Bifuu | getting cheese rushed in a 2v2 |
| 06:54.17 | Bifuu | then taking control of your teammate's units |
| 06:54.20 | Bifuu | and almost winning |
| 07:09.57 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 07:11.00 | Jerub | nailed by early dark templars in p vs t |
| 07:11.15 | Jerub | Bifuu: the other night someone crashed on game entry |
| 07:11.18 | Jerub | meaning it was 1vs2. |
| 07:11.21 | Jerub | and i was the 1. |
| 07:11.37 | Jerub | they both said really gg because i'd managed not only to fend off attacks but counterattack. that was a mad game |
| 07:11.58 | Jerub | but because of the pressure i was under it was double reactor not reactor/techlab, so marines all the way |
| 07:25.04 | Jerub | that was interseting |
| 07:25.14 | Jerub | guy moved his base to beyond some destructable rocks at the start of the game |
| 07:25.17 | Jerub | then made reapers |
| 07:25.32 | Jerub | nearly got me, if i didn't hvae a desent defensive line up |
| 07:54.20 | Bifuu | best match ever |
| 07:54.23 | Bifuu | went back to terran |
| 07:54.44 | Bifuu | got up like 11 BCs and 12 Banshees with a small marine medic force |
| 07:55.05 | Bifuu | teamamte had mother ship and about 5 carriers with a bunch of random units tossed in |
| 07:55.15 | Bifuu | and i cant type |
| 07:59.11 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
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| 08:12.43 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 08:13.05 | Bifuu | Ill finish when i wake up, going to sleep, night if anyone is there lol |
| 08:29.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jack[RCDF (~JACK@121.90.1.71) |
| 08:29.44 | Jack[RCDF | Sup guise |
| 08:35.50 | Sixen | Heya Jack. |
| 08:49.48 | Fisker | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:50.00 | Jack[RCDF | Aight I better go to sleep, SC2@linux tomorrow, then some xml and mpq editing and wiki-ing and tutorials, unless I start playing SC2 :O |
| 08:50.04 | Sixen | =] |
| 08:50.09 | Jack[RCDF | Night all |
| 08:50.09 | Sixen | Jack, good luck.. |
| 08:50.15 | Sixen | My buddy tried to run it through WINE. |
| 08:50.16 | Sixen | No bueno. |
| 08:50.20 | Jack[RCDF | :o |
| 08:50.23 | Jack[RCDF | Darn |
| 08:50.28 | Fisker | Sixen if i bump the post will you let my family go? |
| 08:50.31 | Sixen | He managed to get it to install, but then it crashed upon login. |
| 08:50.47 | Sixen | But irt's worth a shot, Jerub. You can try grabbing the patches manually. I'll be around, i'll help. |
| 08:50.50 | Sixen | er, Jack* |
| 08:50.55 | Sixen | Yes Fisker, it's a deal~ |
| 08:50.56 | Jack[RCDF | K, I'll have a go too though |
| 08:51.29 | Sixen | Night, ;) |
| 08:51.32 | Jack[RCDF | Isn't the login screen bypassed by the loader anyay? |
| 08:51.48 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 08:52.11 | Jack[RCDF | K bye |
| 08:52.54 | Fisker | give me back my family |
| 08:53.37 | Sixen | <3 |
| 08:53.43 | Sixen | hands over fisker fam |
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| 09:39.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Remy__ (~5ed309d4@gateway/web/freenode/x-ccekqilztshuaoeh) |
| 09:39.30 | Remy__ | hello |
| 09:41.01 | Remy__ | not much buzz here |
| 09:41.21 | Remy__ | guess 4 o clock at midnight in holland was a better time for you american guys |
| 09:50.00 | Sixen | Yeah, everyone's asleep! |
| 09:50.03 | Sixen | I should be sleeping. |
| 09:50.14 | Sixen | 3AM here. |
| 09:51.02 | Remy__ | yo |
| 09:51.14 | Remy__ | I need to find a galaxy file that uses structs and multidimensional arrays |
| 09:51.20 | Remy__ | for testing my syntaxchecker |
| 09:51.27 | Remy__ | the file I already tested on doesn't have that : / |
| 09:51.48 | Sixen | Hrm. |
| 09:52.08 | Remy__ | so the guys at darkblizz are making an AI |
| 09:52.16 | Remy__ | but they're not affiliated with sc2mapster |
| 09:52.19 | Remy__ | that's a shame right? |
| 09:52.23 | Sixen | They've had AI out for a while, hehe. |
| 09:52.28 | Remy__ | yeah I know |
| 09:52.33 | Sixen | Yeah, sorta. They cracked the game, we shouldn't be affiliated with that, :p |
| 09:52.39 | Remy__ | pfff :p |
| 09:52.41 | Sixen | But their mapping dev would be nice. |
| 09:53.10 | Hunter_Killers | har har not affiliated with cracking it :P |
| 09:53.20 | Remy__ | we're just USERS |
| 09:53.33 | Sixen | It's bad enough we have to use LL, :|. |
| 09:53.44 | Sixen | psst, anyone with an official beta account, bump please: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767562031&sid=5000 |
| 09:54.05 | Remy__ | I once had a friend who had a brother who knew someone at darkblizz, but I ended that friendship, so I'm clearly not affiliated with those crackers in any way |
| 09:55.03 | Sixen | I know the owner of DarkBlizz |
| 09:55.07 | Sixen | =O |
| 09:55.33 | Sixen | Him and I go wayyy back. We're in the same clan... Sorta. not much of a clan anymore, but whatever. |
| 09:56.06 | Remy__ | Hmm |
| 09:56.11 | Remy__ | so anybody interested in my tool? |
| 09:56.26 | Remy__ | *Milkyway precompiler* |
| 09:56.41 | Remy__ | Would be fun to have some feedback |
| 09:56.56 | Sixen | Yeah, i'd like to get that added into MWE personally |
| 09:57.01 | Sixen | So we can have this all-in-one tool~ |
| 09:57.07 | Remy__ | Yeah ofc. |
| 09:57.11 | Sixen | Did you see my reply on the forums though? |
| 09:57.14 | Remy__ | but text editing is easiest in just a text editor |
| 09:57.19 | Remy__ | you don't want to use MWE for that I think |
| 09:57.29 | Remy__ | or the official galaxy editor for that matter |
| 09:58.06 | Sixen | Well, along with support s2ma files, it can read/edit galaxy files as well |
| 09:58.12 | Sixen | they're included in the s2ma |
| 09:58.33 | Remy__ | yeah but advanced text editors have so many usefull features |
| 09:58.45 | Remy__ | you don't want to have a semi-editor inside your MWE screen |
| 09:59.09 | Remy__ | okay so it can easily handle moving data from and to the MPQ's that nice. |
| 09:59.13 | Sixen | Well, i'm assuming GE will have these amazing tools that'll far overpower MWE |
| 09:59.24 | Sixen | Rendering MWE useless. |
| 09:59.28 | Remy__ | Hmm |
| 09:59.29 | Remy__ | well |
| 09:59.34 | Remy__ | they probably have this block system again |
| 09:59.36 | Sixen | It depends on how good GE really is. |
| 09:59.37 | Remy__ | GUI coding |
| 09:59.39 | Remy__ | like wc3 had |
| 10:00.03 | Sixen | If GE is as good as it's supposed to be, MWE will probably just become an addon instead of another editor. |
| 10:00.08 | Remy__ | I don't think even GE will have a good enough text editing interface to replace a regular editor |
| 10:00.18 | Remy__ | well |
| 10:00.18 | Sixen | We'll have to wait and find out ;p |
| 10:00.26 | Remy__ | GE will only work with the regular galaxy language |
| 10:00.33 | Sixen | Of course. |
| 10:00.37 | Remy__ | with a precompiler we can extend that |
| 10:00.39 | Sixen | There's no other language we'll need, hehe. |
| 10:00.51 | Sixen | How so? |
| 10:00.57 | Remy__ | you can do many things |
| 10:00.59 | Remy__ | add OOP support |
| 10:01.01 | Sixen | It still needs to be in galaxy for GE to understand it |
| 10:01.01 | Remy__ | for loops |
| 10:01.09 | Remy__ | yeah but you convert it to galaxy using a precompiler |
| 10:01.27 | Remy__ | you can simulate many language features using a precompiler |
| 10:01.30 | Sixen | Now that would be interesting. |
| 10:01.51 | Remy__ | I currentely only enabled block comments |
| 10:01.54 | Remy__ | and there is syntax checking |
| 10:02.17 | Remy__ | but I shouldn't spend time on it today^^ |
| 10:02.20 | Remy__ | got other stuff to do |
| 10:02.21 | Sixen | :P |
| 10:02.29 | Sixen | We'll have to talk about this with nic, he'd be interested. |
| 10:03.37 | Sixen | PS, I approved your project. Just noticed it wasn't approved. |
| 10:03.42 | Remy__ | yeah |
| 10:03.49 | Remy__ | the file still needs to be approved |
| 10:05.09 | Sixen | don't think so. I approved the project as a whole, should be good now. |
| 10:05.18 | Sixen | yeah, I can DL it |
| 10:05.53 | Remy__ | o man |
| 10:06.00 | Remy__ | we just found some mail that doesn't belong to us |
| 10:06.03 | Sixen | o_O |
| 10:06.05 | Hunter_Killers | i like how dudes think my videos are from sc2mapster :P |
| 10:06.06 | Remy__ | one is a letter to a judge of someone who is very emotional |
| 10:06.06 | Sixen | Is there money inside? ;) |
| 10:06.17 | Sixen | HK, just roll with it, ;) |
| 10:06.20 | Remy__ | and the other is a gift card from a daughter to a father with nice drawing on it |
| 10:06.27 | Remy__ | and now they're both delivered to our house :S:S |
| 10:06.27 | Sixen | You should make a project and put your screenies up on mapter, hk. |
| 10:06.35 | Sixen | lol |
| 10:07.08 | Remy__ | well |
| 10:07.11 | Remy__ | it's a console tool |
| 10:07.15 | Remy__ | not much to screen about |
| 10:07.32 | Remy__ | could show the error messages but they basically just show the line and column number |
| 10:07.35 | Sixen | Was talking to hunter_killers~ |
| 10:07.36 | Sixen | :p |
| 10:07.36 | Remy__ | and maybe some extra info |
| 10:07.38 | Remy__ | ok okay |
| 10:07.48 | Sixen | But yes, still. might not be a bad idea for you. |
| 10:07.59 | Remy__ | so, do you code galaxy? |
| 10:08.47 | Sixen | I can, :P |
| 10:09.12 | Sixen | Haven't made a project myself yet. Vjeux has though. |
| 10:11.17 | Sixen | I gotta go to bed... I'll talk to you in the morning ;P |
| 10:11.26 | Sixen | fades away |
| 10:12.42 | Remy__ | cya |
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| 12:04.10 | vjeux | hey! |
| 12:05.07 | HP-zzz | hey vjeux |
| 12:05.43 | Remy__ | hey vjeux |
| 12:06.00 | Remy__ | I need a piece of galaxy code that contains structs and multidimensional arrays |
| 12:06.03 | vjeux | cool, lots of new faces :) |
| 12:06.10 | Remy__ | just to test the syntax checker on |
| 12:06.14 | vjeux | sec |
| 12:06.39 | vjeux | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/sc2-api/galaxy-language/arrays/ |
| 12:06.43 | vjeux | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/sc2-api/galaxy-language/structs/ |
| 12:07.12 | Remy__ | yeah sure I could use that |
| 12:07.22 | Remy__ | what are you working on concerning sc2? |
| 12:07.49 | vjeux | mostly working on the documentation |
| 12:08.16 | vjeux | I've done a TD to advertise about what we can do with galaxy |
| 12:08.39 | vjeux | I pretty much want all the functions up to the AI documentd before galaxy editor coming |
| 12:08.40 | Remy__ | oay |
| 12:08.57 | HP-zzz | question though vjeux, where did you find the function list? =O |
| 12:09.04 | vjeux | sc2.exe |
| 12:09.17 | Remy__ | but I guess it's only partial |
| 12:09.21 | HP-zzz | ah |
| 12:09.25 | Remy__ | since for the campaign they need many more natives |
| 12:09.26 | Remy__ | right? |
| 12:09.34 | vjeux | don't think so |
| 12:09.42 | Remy__ | wc3 had many more |
| 12:09.48 | vjeux | but at the moment they only added the strict minimum to let the AI work |
| 12:09.48 | Remy__ | things like give vision to player |
| 12:09.55 | Remy__ | yeah I think so |
| 12:10.26 | Remy__ | so what do you think about the constant memory usage of globals |
| 12:10.28 | Remy__ | no memory allocation |
| 12:10.54 | vjeux | no memory allocation is hopefully going to be fixed |
| 12:11.01 | vjeux | because this is a serious lack |
| 12:11.01 | Remy__ | hmm |
| 12:11.09 | Remy__ | seems like a design choice |
| 12:11.16 | Remy__ | so that the game won't go laggy while you play a custom map |
| 12:11.31 | Remy__ | wc3 had that on some maps |
| 12:11.33 | vjeux | well, this really limits possibilities |
| 12:11.41 | Remy__ | yeah it does? |
| 12:12.10 | vjeux | well, not being able to dynamically create new objects is kinda lame |
| 12:12.25 | vjeux | and there's no real workaround because galaxy is strongly typed |
| 12:12.32 | vjeux | can't do our own version of malloc |
| 12:12.40 | Remy__ | well I'm making a precompiler |
| 12:12.43 | Remy__ | already have a parser |
| 12:12.52 | Remy__ | could simulate malloc I think |
| 12:13.12 | Remy__ | keep a large every for every type and allocate all new objects in there, something like that |
| 12:13.34 | Remy__ | large array* |
| 12:13.36 | vjeux | well, you have to preallocate huge memory space |
| 12:13.49 | Remy__ | well not more then you'd need anyways |
| 12:13.54 | vjeux | and cannot be shared along multiple types |
| 12:14.01 | Remy__ | yeah |
| 12:14.04 | Remy__ | that's right |
| 12:14.22 | Remy__ | and what about deallocation? |
| 12:14.26 | Remy__ | would have to be manual maybe. |
| 12:14.44 | vjeux | yep :P |
| 12:14.56 | vjeux | welcome back to '60 where there were no garbage collector |
| 12:18.42 | vjeux | hmm ... Even lisp had a garbage collector ... :p |
| 12:25.31 | Remy__ | can you return from a while in galaxy? |
| 12:25.38 | Remy__ | or break |
| 12:25.42 | vjeux | you can break |
| 12:25.44 | vjeux | and continue |
| 12:25.46 | Remy__ | ok |
| 12:25.50 | vjeux | return should work I guess |
| 12:27.01 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-language/ by steen-reem |
| 12:27.35 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-language/ by steen-reem |
| 12:30.22 | sztanphet | there is a continue but no for loop? |
| 12:30.29 | sztanphet | humpf |
| 12:30.32 | vjeux | :p |
| 12:31.23 | Remy__ | so |
| 12:31.38 | Remy__ | what about generating code like this: http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=24199#a24199 |
| 12:31.41 | Remy__ | for every struct |
| 12:31.45 | Remy__ | type of struct defined |
| 12:32.54 | Computerpunk | :o |
| 12:33.03 | vjeux | yep |
| 12:33.04 | Computerpunk | We're sprouting like mushrooms. |
| 12:34.30 | vjeux | there's a problem with your kill function |
| 12:34.43 | Remy__ | what is it? |
| 12:35.06 | vjeux | you cannot move around values |
| 12:35.12 | vjeux | p2d_memory[i] = p2d_memory[p2d_allocated-1] |
| 12:35.32 | Remy__ | hmm |
| 12:35.36 | vjeux | the pointer to p2d_memory[p2d_allocated-1] is not going to be changed |
| 12:35.40 | Remy__ | yeah |
| 12:35.41 | Remy__ | true |
| 12:36.42 | vjeux | recoding an efficient malloc is quite hard :p |
| 12:38.36 | Fisker | that's what she said |
| 12:39.10 | vjeux | btw, got 1300 unique visitors yesterday thanks to the advertising |
| 12:39.19 | Computerpunk | 1300? |
| 12:39.34 | vjeux | yup |
| 12:40.06 | vjeux | 100 one week ago |
| 12:40.15 | vjeux | and about 300 last 3 days |
| 12:40.56 | Computerpunk | Guess my DDoS script worked. |
| 12:43.51 | HP-zzz | vjeux, the site deserves it |
| 12:44.16 | vjeux | thanks :) |
| 12:46.56 | HP-zzz | you didnt just strip the text out of sc2.exe to get functions right? |
| 12:47.14 | vjeux | yep |
| 12:47.25 | HP-zzz | how did you fetch the arguments for the functions then :O |
| 12:47.29 | vjeux | the parameter types are stored in another structure |
| 12:47.35 | HP-zzz | ah |
| 12:48.31 | vjeux | http://www.youxihun.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=8357 |
| 12:48.40 | vjeux | use google translate to read the explanations |
| 12:48.54 | HP-zzz | thanks :) |
| 12:49.53 | HP-zzz | also, someone asked if someone else was working on the models, heres a link to a post where thats all the discuss |
| 12:49.54 | HP-zzz | http://starcraft.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3374 |
| 12:50.19 | HP-zzz | ah, it was witch who wondered and hes already in the thread :p |
| 12:50.37 | vjeux | nicoli_s is working on the models |
| 12:50.48 | vjeux | he did a viewer in flash |
| 12:50.54 | vjeux | not yet released |
| 12:51.07 | Chrono^ | Impressive :o |
| 12:51.11 | HP2 | ah, thats nice |
| 12:51.25 | HP2 | now why aint maged in here idling |
| 12:54.19 | Remy__ | hmm |
| 12:54.28 | Remy__ | got a new example; http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=24199#a24200 |
| 12:54.39 | Remy__ | I guess it's nothing new to you |
| 12:54.48 | Remy__ | vjeux I mean |
| 12:55.31 | vjeux | looks better :) |
| 12:55.58 | vjeux | #allocate(Point2d, 1000) |
| 12:56.04 | vjeux | something like this to create it? |
| 12:56.15 | Remy__ | yeah |
| 12:56.19 | vjeux | ok great |
| 12:56.34 | Jerub | woo, finally gettin gto the point of being in the top 20 of my 1v1 copper league |
| 12:56.45 | vjeux | Remy__ are you steen-reem? |
| 12:56.51 | vjeux | gratz |
| 12:57.53 | Remy__ | yes that's me |
| 12:57.58 | vjeux | ok |
| 12:58.03 | Remy__ | yeah it's a bit confusing |
| 12:58.15 | Remy__ | I like my actual name better than that nickname steenreem... |
| 12:58.22 | Remy__ | who ever thought of that?! |
| 12:58.25 | vjeux | :) |
| 12:58.42 | Remy__ | so how does the sc2keys list work |
| 12:58.50 | Remy__ | I'm on this trying to get a key list |
| 12:59.03 | vjeux | key list? |
| 13:00.48 | Remy__ | http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AonLKgumHH_adGo5aDhqY2h3OUppN3p6ZVpVTV9UTHc&hl=en |
| 13:00.53 | Remy__ | on the prospects part |
| 13:01.12 | vjeux | well, if you need a key and we have some to share, we will :) |
| 13:07.18 | Jerub | we need a date added column there |
| 13:07.25 | Jerub | i don't know who to add to my thingy |
| 13:07.42 | vjeux | feel free to add it |
| 13:08.33 | Jerub | anyone feel like a game? |
| 13:12.15 | HP2 | Jerub eu? |
| 13:12.21 | HP2 | !topic |
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| 13:20.04 | Jerub | HP2: sorry, no, NA |
| 13:20.12 | HP2 | yeah, noticed :( |
| 13:20.21 | Jerub | ahhh, early carrier protoss |
| 13:20.26 | Jerub | means early terran win! |
| 13:20.59 | Jerub | timezones suck. |
| 13:23.04 | Jerub | i'm australian, so none of the americans are ever available to play |
| 13:25.49 | vjeux | what about EU? |
| 13:39.04 | Jerub | vjeux: uh, i've got a NA battle.net account |
| 13:39.20 | Jerub | hehehe, opponent went for zealot/colossos |
| 13:39.30 | Jerub | i went for marine/marauder/thor |
| 13:39.34 | Jerub | thor vs colossos = lol |
| 13:39.57 | vjeux | :) |
| 13:40.00 | Jerub | just got to 14th in my copper league |
| 13:40.23 | Jerub | mostly marine/thor |
| 13:40.28 | Jerub | which was a bit of a mistake, but they're cheap |
| 13:40.48 | Jerub | lost all the marines and ended up using a barrage on the /only/ pylon supplying his producing units |
| 13:58.01 | Fisker | heh |
| 13:58.05 | Fisker | reminds me of that rush i did once |
| 13:58.07 | Fisker | PvZ |
| 13:58.24 | Fisker | i wanted to cannonrush the zerg and put cannons behind his mineral line before he noticed |
| 13:58.26 | Fisker | but he did :( |
| 13:58.46 | Fisker | So i had a pylon and a cannon warping in, and out of panic i just put 2 gateways infront of it :D |
| 13:59.14 | Fisker | So the cannon just warped in while he was beating away at the gateways and destroyed everything :P |
| 14:01.47 | Jerub | that was a good game |
| 14:01.51 | Jerub | nailed him with marines+thors |
| 14:02.02 | Jerub | i like thors now |
| 14:02.11 | Jerub | they're really good when the opponet has roaches or something |
| 14:02.23 | Jerub | and now it's past midnight and i have to go to bed |
| 14:02.42 | Computerpunk | I go to bed at around 6AM. |
| 14:02.42 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 14:03.03 | Jerub | lol, just looked at the ladder: |
| 14:03.24 | Jerub | i'm on the fewest wins, but the only person with equal wins/losses, for everyone in the top 20 |
| 14:03.27 | Jerub | i'm on 13 now |
| 14:04.13 | Jerub | (everyone else has lost more than they've won) |
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| 14:38.07 | veselu | hello |
| 14:38.17 | vjeux | hey veselu |
| 14:38.55 | veselu | so here is what I did |
| 14:39.43 | veselu | I've added an observer where the enemies spawn aka PL2 |
| 14:39.58 | veselu | used for debug only :) |
| 14:39.58 | ckknight | waves at veselu |
| 14:39.58 | ckknight | I haven't seen you before |
| 14:40.02 | ckknight | welcome |
| 14:40.21 | veselu | i am a quiet person, just watching progress on SC2 |
| 14:41.04 | veselu | I noticed vjeux map and, since I love TD's, I thought about help improving it |
| 14:41.44 | veselu | let's continue |
| 14:42.01 | veselu | I've added an extra supply for the new observer |
| 14:42.22 | veselu | btw, Observer unit wasn't in the UnitData.xml so I've added it there |
| 14:43.15 | veselu | do you think adding that extra observer might be the cause ? |
| 14:43.22 | vjeux | it wasn't in the UnitData because it's a unit you've made or because I deleted it by mistake? |
| 14:44.22 | vjeux | I've tried to create new units from scratch (ie copy & pasting already existing ones) but I've never managed to associate them models |
| 14:44.35 | vjeux | so basically they do exist but cannot be displayed |
| 14:45.03 | vjeux | so what i've been doing so far is modifying already existing units |
| 14:45.06 | veselu | a moment |
| 14:47.03 | veselu | back |
| 14:47.49 | veselu | I took the definition out of te original Base.SC2Data |
| 14:48.02 | veselu | and added it to your UnitData.xml file |
| 14:48.33 | vjeux | what's wrong when adding it? |
| 14:48.49 | veselu | and added the unit into Objects |
| 14:48.50 | veselu | <Unit id="8" position="30,66,0" rotation="1.3493" scale="2,2,2" player="1" unitType="Observer"/> |
| 14:49.18 | veselu | I think this may be the cause to my problem |
| 14:49.27 | vjeux | the waves not being sent correctly? |
| 14:49.39 | veselu | the last wave not being sent correctly |
| 14:49.47 | veselu | though it doesn't make sens |
| 14:49.50 | veselu | sense* |
| 14:50.04 | veselu | all the other waves are sent correctly, last one isn't |
| 14:50.26 | vjeux | the last one is a new one you added? |
| 14:50.36 | veselu | no, it's the Mothership |
| 14:51.00 | vjeux | btw, instead of adding an observer you could use a maphack |
| 14:51.05 | vjeux | this is really helpful |
| 14:51.14 | veselu | i don't know how to use that |
| 14:51.49 | vjeux | http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/starcraft-ii-maphack/ |
| 14:51.52 | veselu | ok, I will revert back to original and test again |
| 14:52.05 | vjeux | run it and press the * key ingame |
| 14:52.15 | vjeux | it will reveal all the map so it's easier to debug things |
| 14:52.26 | vjeux | (avoid using it when playing bnet though :P) |
| 14:52.47 | veselu | i didn't receive a key |
| 14:52.49 | vjeux | you have a strange problem, don't really know what could cause it |
| 14:53.20 | veselu | did Blizzard send keys to Europe ? :D |
| 14:53.29 | vjeux | yes |
| 14:53.50 | veselu | well then I'm not lucky enough |
| 14:54.24 | vjeux | you may want to add yourself to the prospect list : http://averageurl.com/sc2/ |
| 14:54.32 | ScytheBlade1 | (tab at the bottom) |
| 14:54.52 | vjeux | when we get keys we reward active members with beta keys :) |
| 14:57.20 | veselu | I did, thanks |
| 14:57.41 | ScytheBlade1 | veselu: close. you added yourself to the "I HAS A KEY" sheet. |
| 14:58.39 | ScytheBlade1 | not the "I NEEDS A KEY" sheet |
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| 18:32.39 | ckknight | Bifuu: yea, just stick another <<xmldoc>> in |
| 18:32.40 | ckknight | :P |
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| 18:34.14 | Bifuu | i tried that, didnt work, ill ty again tho i guess |
| 18:36.11 | Bifuu | oh now it works |
| 18:36.13 | Bifuu | lol |
| 18:36.53 | Bifuu | ah requires a description, got it |
| 18:38.41 | HP2 | i just have to share this http://jo.rdgub.be/7087 |
| 18:39.05 | HP2 | to 72 w/o skipping atm |
| 18:41.46 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/weapon-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 18:45.28 | Bifuu | i gice up at 6 |
| 18:45.30 | Bifuu | give |
| 18:53.01 | veselu | at 13 atm :D |
| 18:53.40 | HP2 | haha |
| 18:53.50 | HP2 | if you want hint / solution ill give it to ya |
| 18:53.53 | veselu | damn 15 :D |
| 18:53.54 | HP2 | i know up to 72 |
| 18:54.19 | HP2 | haha :D |
| 18:54.25 | HP2 | is it the chalkboard? |
| 18:54.35 | HP2 | tip, look at the top of the leftside |
| 18:54.38 | veselu | qwerty |
| 18:54.45 | HP2 | theres an animal whos name begins w H |
| 18:56.20 | veselu | no idea |
| 18:56.42 | Gnarfoz | I hate the impossible quiz :F |
| 18:56.43 | HP2 | horse |
| 18:56.43 | veselu | it says: Neigh! Whinny! |
| 18:56.50 | HP2 | is the solution |
| 18:56.54 | veselu | and displays a keynboard |
| 18:56.59 | veselu | keyboard |
| 18:57.01 | HP2 | yeah |
| 18:57.06 | Gnarfoz | you have to type in "horse" |
| 18:57.07 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 18:57.15 | veselu | oh lol |
| 18:57.42 | Bifuu | i got to the one where it was like "fill in the colors in the right order and im like "yeah imma go back to xml sniffing" |
| 18:58.03 | HP2 | that one was pure trial and error for me, boggy |
| 18:58.23 | Gnarfoz | hm, this is a modified version |
| 18:58.37 | Gnarfoz | the "search!" question isn't in the original one |
| 18:58.54 | HP2 | i havent figured out the search one |
| 18:59.39 | Gnarfoz | hm? it's quite early on |
| 18:59.45 | HP2 | number? |
| 18:59.46 | Gnarfoz | you just have to pick the right circle |
| 18:59.52 | HP2 | theres a secret on like 60 or so |
| 19:00.00 | Gnarfoz | 8 |
| 19:00.07 | HP2 | ah |
| 19:00.25 | HP2 | i think the one im thinking of is 72 |
| 19:01.21 | HP2 | yeah its 72 |
| 19:01.48 | Gnarfoz | man, I don't remember half of this crap |
| 19:01.48 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:02.03 | HP2 | hahaha |
| 19:10.08 | veselu | vjeux I've replaced Mothership with Battlecruiser and I can't finish the map :) |
| 19:11.11 | HP2 | wtf do you do at 81 |
| 19:11.16 | HP2 | stupid rod |
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| 19:17.30 | Remy__ | I'm confused |
| 19:17.46 | Sixen | lol, thanks scyetheblade1 |
| 19:17.52 | Remy__ | sometimes I seee <<Type>>[array_count]* and sometimes <<Type>>*[array_count] |
| 19:18.13 | Remy__ | does the pointer * go behind or before the array [ ] tokens ? (in galaxy) |
| 19:20.26 | Sixen | If it's both ways then i'm not sure if itmatters |
| 19:20.29 | Sixen | ~summon vjeux |
| 19:20.30 | purl | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing vjeux's coordinates |
| 19:20.36 | Sixen | he'd know. |
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| 19:22.13 | Sixen | nicoli: http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1215497 |
| 19:22.14 | Bifuu | wait wait wai points in galaxy?! i think i just died a little inside |
| 19:22.23 | Bifuu | pointers* |
| 19:22.23 | Sixen | Hahaha :p |
| 19:22.37 | Sixen | brb again, 20 minutes. |
| 19:22.43 | Bifuu | im counting |
| 19:29.05 | ckknight | Remy__: it depends on the situation |
| 19:29.13 | ckknight | MyType*[] is an array of MyType pointers |
| 19:29.19 | ckknight | MyType[]* is a pointer to an array of MyTypes |
| 19:29.52 | Remy__ | o right |
| 19:29.54 | Remy__ | thanks |
| 19:30.15 | veselu | but in the documentation it's stated that Galaxy is base C |
| 19:30.24 | veselu | which doesn't have pointers if I recall well |
| 19:31.04 | ckknight | very false, veselu |
| 19:31.44 | ckknight | Galaxy is similar to C, I wouldn't say "based on" |
| 19:31.53 | Remy__ | subset of |
| 19:31.58 | ckknight | ...no |
| 19:32.09 | Remy__ | how so? |
| 19:32.32 | Remy__ | well I don't know c well but the syntax seems very similar |
| 19:32.32 | ckknight | it doesn't compile to C or ASM or anything like that |
| 19:32.38 | ckknight | semantically, it's similar to C |
| 19:32.39 | Remy__ | o but that wasn't what I meant |
| 19:32.41 | ckknight | some things are different |
| 19:34.50 | Remy__ | can you have something like: (int[]*[]*) |
| 19:35.00 | Remy__ | point to an array of pointers to arrays of ints |
| 19:35.19 | Remy__ | in galaxy |
| 19:37.47 | Bifuu | i still never got why pointers need to exist lol, let alone in a SC2 map |
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| 19:38.49 | ckknight | memory management |
| 19:38.56 | ckknight | non-pointers exist globally or on the stack |
| 19:38.59 | Remy__ | could you answer my last question |
| 19:39.06 | Remy__ | so int[]*[]* is possible |
| 19:39.07 | ckknight | oh yea, you can, Remy__ |
| 19:39.09 | Remy__ | ok |
| 19:39.18 | ckknight | pointers point to data that exists somewhere else |
| 19:39.28 | ckknight | or pointers can point to null |
| 19:40.36 | Remy__ | there is a null value in galaxy? |
| 19:44.05 | ckknight | yes |
| 19:44.13 | ckknight | int* x; |
| 19:44.15 | ckknight | x == null |
| 19:44.20 | Remy__ | okay |
| 19:48.12 | Bifuu | O.o What is Terrazine |
| 19:48.28 | Bifuu | apparently its a resource somewhere in sc2, i guess single player |
| 19:49.38 | veselu | Terrazine gas is a mysterious potent psionic reagent featured in StarCraft: Ghost. It is sought by protoss, zerg and terrans alike.[1] |
| 19:49.43 | veselu | http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Terrazine |
| 19:49.44 | veselu | :D |
| 19:49.56 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 19:50.03 | Bifuu | well i guess its also in SC2 now |
| 19:50.28 | veselu | guess so |
| 19:50.31 | Bifuu | maybe its high yield gas haha |
| 19:51.22 | veselu | Terrazine is a material that is gaseous in normal life-bearing tempratures and is used to produce Spectres from Ghosts. |
| 19:51.42 | veselu | too much confusing info :) |
| 19:51.45 | Bifuu | lol |
| 19:51.57 | Bifuu | well i can confirm that MULEs cannot gather from it haha |
| 19:52.43 | veselu | :) |
| 19:54.17 | vjeux | Remy__ yes int[]*[]* is possible however you can't parenthesis it like ((int[]*)[])* |
| 19:54.29 | Bifuu | MercCompound building for terrans, must also be single player |
| 19:56.04 | Bifuu | Ravens making spidermines |
| 19:58.51 | Zoxc | wonders how Blizzard will fix the security flaws with pointers |
| 20:04.24 | Remy__ | hmm but the types are always left associative right |
| 20:04.50 | Remy__ | so int[][]*[][] reads like (((((int[])[])*)[])[]) |
| 20:05.13 | Remy__ | well whatever |
| 20:05.23 | vjeux | yep |
| 20:06.31 | Bifuu | i really hoe theres no map that needs something like that haha |
| 20:06.35 | Bifuu | hope |
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| 20:13.23 | Gnarfoz | man, I'm so bad at SC2 :( |
| 20:13.36 | Bifuu | lol you arnt alone in that |
| 20:13.38 | Gnarfoz | 5 years of WoW really had an impact on my RTS skills :( |
| 20:13.47 | Corbo | Bifuu |
| 20:13.53 | Bifuu | yes? |
| 20:14.02 | Corbo | did you happen to save some of my last screenshots of terran zealots >.> |
| 20:14.14 | Bifuu | uhhhhh hang on |
| 20:14.17 | Corbo | Okay |
| 20:14.37 | Bifuu | http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4795/screenshot075o.jpg |
| 20:14.49 | Bifuu | http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6438/screenshot076pu.jpg |
| 20:15.05 | Corbo | perfect |
| 20:15.06 | Corbo | thanks |
| 20:15.21 | Bifuu | http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1531/screenshot064h.jpg theres the red one |
| 20:15.36 | Bifuu | want the flying DT also? haha |
| 20:16.11 | veselu | vjeux around ? |
| 20:16.38 | Corbo | nah just needed the first one actually |
| 20:16.39 | Corbo | thanks. |
| 20:16.56 | vjeux | veselu yes |
| 20:17.32 | veselu | i figured out what the problem was :) |
| 20:17.45 | vjeux | oh great |
| 20:18.05 | veselu | the <CUnit id="Mothership"> was duplicated :D |
| 20:18.26 | vjeux | oh I see |
| 20:18.29 | veselu | i've made the map much more difficult |
| 20:18.34 | veselu | and it's almost ready |
| 20:18.44 | veselu | there's one more thing I want to add |
| 20:18.49 | vjeux | great |
| 20:18.56 | veselu | a key bind for the upgrade on canons |
| 20:19.04 | veselu | nicoli_s |
| 20:19.22 | veselu | ... |
| 20:19.31 | veselu | i have no idea how to do that |
| 20:19.40 | vjeux | that's in GameStrings.txt |
| 20:20.03 | vjeux | what's your curse account |
| 20:20.06 | veselu | veselu |
| 20:20.15 | vjeux | I'll give you admin rights on the map |
| 20:20.22 | vjeux | so you can upload a version 1.1 :) |
| 20:20.35 | veselu | oki but first you should check it out |
| 20:20.41 | vjeux | yep |
| 20:20.44 | veselu | i'm not a C developer, PHP atm :D |
| 20:20.49 | vjeux | :) |
| 20:21.13 | veselu | well how do I point out that U is the key for upgrade ? |
| 20:21.25 | vjeux | don't know exactly |
| 20:21.33 | vjeux | look at how it's done in the original GameStrings.txt |
| 20:21.38 | vjeux | (enUS.something) |
| 20:22.15 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/common-issues-faq/ by Ackis |
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| 20:22.54 | ckknight | anyone up for doubles? |
| 20:23.35 | veselu | 2vs2 ?:D |
| 20:23.52 | ckknight | Zoxc: well, the amount of memory the system can take up is always known at any given time, you can't grow an array or anything like that, so securing that kind of system is easy |
| 20:23.55 | ckknight | yea, veselu |
| 20:24.13 | veselu | I can't :) |
| 20:25.41 | veselu | there's nothing special in GameStrings |
| 20:26.12 | Zoxc | but Blizzard stills fails at it |
| 20:26.15 | vjeux | http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/-grid-key-modification-/ |
| 20:26.23 | vjeux | http://s3.amazonaws.com/nibbits/tools/files/20100314235626/GameStrings.txt |
| 20:26.51 | vjeux | Button/Hotkey/250mmStrikeCannons=Z |
| 20:30.44 | veselu | added |
| 20:31.31 | vjeux | also, the upgrade tooltip is fucked up |
| 20:31.35 | vjeux | it's like a random spell atm |
| 20:32.53 | veselu | yes |
| 20:32.59 | veselu | i will try to fix it |
| 20:33.24 | veselu | i was wondering about the defeat/victory messages |
| 20:33.34 | veselu | for defeat Victory appears :) |
| 20:33.46 | veselu | it's not quite good :) |
| 20:33.46 | vjeux | there's victory / draw atm :p |
| 20:33.55 | vjeux | oh maybe :p |
| 20:34.00 | veselu | no Defeat() ? :D |
| 20:34.07 | HP2 | also Sixen |
| 20:34.17 | HP2 | I think the thing regarding modifiable UI was in one of the batches |
| 20:34.24 | HP2 | dont know if it was a pure mapping batch though |
| 20:34.55 | vjeux | veselu, atm the victory window is a big hack :p |
| 20:35.11 | vjeux | basically I call SetDefaultConditions() |
| 20:35.30 | HP2 | Sixen thats one that mention it http://sc2pod.com/trackers/blue/?id=3224 |
| 20:35.42 | vjeux | and since nobody has a townhall, everyone draw/wins |
| 20:36.20 | HP2 | 3. In comparison to the Warcraft III Editor, how much more, if any, can the GUI of the game be edited (it was extremely limited in Warcraft III)? |
| 20:36.20 | HP2 | The in-game UI layout is externalized in data files to a large extent, however there is no editor support for working with these files. So it will be possible to customize the game UI, it just wont be a user-friendly process. |
| 20:36.34 | HP2 | from batch 52 |
| 20:37.27 | Sixen | ./looks |
| 20:37.39 | veselu | got it |
| 20:37.44 | Sixen | That's D3, HP2 |
| 20:37.56 | HP2 | what |
| 20:38.00 | vjeux | diablo3 |
| 20:38.01 | veselu | couldn't we build some indestrubtible somewhere |
| 20:38.02 | HP2 | no |
| 20:38.06 | veselu | and destroy them |
| 20:38.07 | HP2 | well first one perhaps |
| 20:38.09 | HP2 | not the 2nd |
| 20:38.11 | veselu | on defeat/victory ? |
| 20:38.13 | HP2 | 3. In comparison to the Warcraft III Editor, how much more, if any, can the GUI of the game be edited (it was extremely limited in Warcraft III)? |
| 20:38.13 | HP2 | The in-game UI layout is externalized in data files to a large extent, however there is no editor support for working with these files. So it will be possible to customize the game UI, it just won't be a user-friendly process. |
| 20:38.18 | vjeux | we could :) |
| 20:38.19 | HP2 | thats from batch #52 |
| 20:39.36 | HP2 | http://starfeeder.gameriot.com/blogs/The-Starfeed/StarCraft-2-question-answer-batch-52 |
| 20:39.47 | HP2 | anyway, time to eat some foods |
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| 20:40.43 | SHaki | rawr |
| 20:40.47 | vjeux | yop |
| 20:40.50 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 20:43.17 | Bifuu | Hmm might try todocument AbilData.xml next |
| 20:43.33 | vjeux | great |
| 20:45.26 | Sixen | 3. In comparison to the Warcraft III Editor, how much more, if any, can the GUI of the game be edited (it was extremely limited in Warcraft III)? |
| 20:45.27 | Sixen | The in-game UI layout is externalized in data files to a large extent, however there is no editor support for working with these files. So it will be possible to customize the game UI, it just won't be a user-friendly process. |
| 20:45.27 | Sixen | Nice. |
| 20:45.41 | HP2 | thought id find that for you |
| 20:45.45 | HP2 | forumers are slackers ;) |
| 20:45.54 | Hunter_Killers | they are just xml files, so its not really anything special to edit them |
| 20:46.07 | HP2 | soooo, is there anything in particular that needs documentation for now? |
| 20:46.18 | vjeux | the API functions |
| 20:46.39 | vjeux | the unit* functions |
| 20:46.56 | Remy__ | so you cannot use parenthesis in type declarations |
| 20:47.15 | Remy__ | and what about the expression (*bla)[3] |
| 20:47.24 | Remy__ | or *bla[3] that's fine? |
| 20:47.32 | vjeux | don't know |
| 20:47.39 | HP2 | i haven o clue, but id say *bla[3] is fine :p |
| 20:47.45 | Sixen | Right HK, but if GE won't support it, MWE can |
| 20:47.46 | Sixen | :D |
| 20:47.55 | HP2 | or <type>* name[3] |
| 20:48.10 | HP2 | well, ill say focus on it |
| 20:48.21 | veselu | vjeux got a place where I can upload the changes ? |
| 20:48.43 | HP2 | ah well, foods |
| 20:48.56 | vjeux | veselu you are admin on the mapster td project |
| 20:49.05 | vjeux | upload it there (files need aproval) |
| 20:49.14 | Sixen | Sweet, what changes? :P |
| 20:49.17 | Sixen | I'll approve it. |
| 20:49.30 | vjeux | he made the td fun to play! :p |
| 20:49.39 | Sixen | lol |
| 20:49.40 | Sixen | OK then |
| 20:51.44 | Shaki | so |
| 20:51.53 | Shaki | who told me about the sc2 thing |
| 20:52.19 | veselu | done, but notice it's only the Files dir |
| 20:52.22 | Bifuu | thats alot of things i would assume |
| 20:52.35 | Shaki | lol so afk i need to build more marauders |
| 20:55.47 | Fisker | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:55.58 | Sixen | =o |
| 20:56.59 | Bifuu | thats just wrong |
| 21:01.16 | Bifuu | oh that looks fun, Single player challenges it looks like? |
| 21:03.26 | Sixen | ~summon vjeux |
| 21:03.27 | purl | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing vjeux's coordinates |
| 21:03.43 | vjeux | lol |
| 21:03.56 | Sixen | Why not Teal? |
| 21:03.59 | Sixen | He did the m3 work :p |
| 21:07.25 | Bifuu | >.< why did i pick the 3000+ line xml file to document next |
| 21:07.37 | vjeux | :p |
| 21:08.42 | veselu | :) |
| 21:09.14 | Bifuu | oh hey i found the code for overload haha |
| 21:09.32 | vjeux | for what? |
| 21:09.49 | Bifuu | it was a ability for the pheonix i think that they took out |
| 21:10.25 | Bifuu | all they did was comment it out |
| 21:10.39 | veselu | lol |
| 21:10.51 | veselu | new patch :D |
| 21:11.03 | veselu | comment 2 skills and they release a new patch :) |
| 21:11.12 | Bifuu | lol |
| 21:15.43 | veselu | good night guys |
| 21:15.58 | HP2 | nn |
| 21:16.06 | vjeux | nighr |
| 21:16.42 | Sixen | there was a new patch? |
| 21:20.00 | Sixen | nvm |
| 21:22.44 | Bifuu | 23 different parents nodes in here ._. |
| 21:23.01 | vjeux | wow :x |
| 21:23.20 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/abil-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 21:24.42 | vjeux | Good luck :) |
| 21:25.26 | Sixen | We need to redo the Unitdata.xml page |
| 21:25.26 | Sixen | =| |
| 21:25.48 | Bifuu | *nose* |
| 21:25.56 | Sixen | er, bifuu, I think you're doing it wrong. |
| 21:26.07 | vjeux | the one who says, the one who does! |
| 21:26.20 | Sixen | Unless there's children of each one...? |
| 21:26.27 | Bifuu | theres children for them |
| 21:26.32 | Bifuu | im just setting it up atm |
| 21:26.32 | Sixen | O_O |
| 21:26.39 | Bifuu | exactly |
| 21:26.41 | vjeux | no that's ok Sixen |
| 21:26.46 | Shaki | back |
| 21:26.48 | Shaki | xD |
| 21:26.51 | Bifuu | like i said, 3000+ lines |
| 21:26.53 | vjeux | basically in UnitData there's only <CUnit> |
| 21:27.00 | vjeux | in this file there are many sub types |
| 21:27.01 | Sixen | Oh lawd. |
| 21:27.05 | Bifuu | 3523 lines to be exact |
| 21:27.09 | Shaki | so how do i edit maps |
| 21:27.11 | Shaki | :P |
| 21:27.21 | Shaki | i wana make something funny |
| 21:27.21 | Sixen | UnitData is OK for now, we just need to redo it so it follows the same format. |
| 21:27.22 | Shaki | :P |
| 21:27.26 | Sixen | I'll see if I can do it after my lab report :p |
| 21:27.37 | vjeux | Shaki: the easiest way is to take my Tower defense or the HelloWorld map |
| 21:27.56 | Sixen | anyone with a US beta: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767562031 |
| 21:27.58 | Sixen | bump please. |
| 21:28.00 | vjeux | edit the files and run the launch.bat to put everything in the map and launch it |
| 21:28.04 | Shaki | ^^ |
| 21:28.15 | Sixen | And EU Beta, bump: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767641991 |
| 21:28.21 | Sixen | I'd appreciate it =) |
| 21:28.31 | Bifuu | but then id actually have to log in |
| 21:28.36 | Sixen | =[ |
| 21:28.44 | Bifuu | haha |
| 21:28.56 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/common-issues-faq/ by Ackis |
| 21:30.35 | Shaki | :O |
| 21:31.33 | Bifuu | thar i bumped it |
| 21:32.18 | vjeux | bumped the US one |
| 21:32.47 | Shaki | you all got beta |
| 21:32.47 | Shaki | :( |
| 21:32.50 | Shaki | lol |
| 21:33.05 | vjeux | account sharing ftw! (at least for me :p) |
| 21:33.37 | Shaki | you can invite a friend into the beta lol |
| 21:36.01 | Sixen | Thanks~ |
| 21:39.42 | Shaki | Sixen |
| 21:39.45 | vjeux | ~summon vjeux |
| 21:39.46 | purl | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing vjeux's coordinates |
| 21:39.47 | Sixen | Yes? |
| 21:39.51 | Shaki | in the editor i cantadd sommands |
| 21:39.52 | Shaki | :P |
| 21:39.59 | Shaki | commands** |
| 21:40.08 | Sixen | hm/ |
| 21:40.12 | Sixen | Whatcha mean? |
| 21:40.23 | Shaki | i cant make my reaper buld |
| 21:40.25 | Shaki | build* |
| 21:43.04 | Shaki | like i cant add stuff |
| 21:43.05 | Shaki | lol |
| 21:44.01 | Bifuu | omg theres this bird outside my window that sounds like a squeeky seesaw |
| 21:44.11 | Shaki | lol |
| 21:47.31 | Bifuu | ah headphones ftw |
| 21:50.16 | Shaki | sixen |
| 21:50.16 | Shaki | who made milkyway? |
| 21:50.16 | Shaki | i know there were people i know from ehree |
| 21:50.16 | Shaki | just who? |
| 21:50.16 | Shaki | lol |
| 21:50.40 | Sixen | nicoli_s is the project leader, he did most of the development |
| 21:50.50 | Sixen | ckknight did the galaxy editor work, afaik |
| 21:50.56 | ckknight | howdy |
| 21:50.58 | Sixen | and that's about it. i'm just adding stuff here and there. |
| 21:51.05 | ckknight | you can contribute if you want |
| 21:54.21 | Shaki | hm |
| 21:54.27 | Shaki | how do i edit the milkyway editor? |
| 21:54.29 | Shaki | :P |
| 21:55.26 | nicoli_s | edit how? |
| 21:55.38 | nicoli_s | its code, you just edit the code |
| 21:55.45 | nicoli_s | do you know c#? |
| 21:55.45 | Shaki | lol i mean |
| 21:55.51 | Shaki | what the editor does |
| 21:55.53 | Shaki | like right click |
| 21:55.55 | Shaki | :P |
| 21:56.00 | Zoxc | nicoli_s: get it to use scintilla =P |
| 21:56.15 | nicoli_s | wtf is that zoxc? |
| 21:56.20 | Shaki | lol |
| 21:56.23 | nicoli_s | shaki:just play around with it |
| 21:56.37 | Zoxc | http://www.scintilla.org/ |
| 21:57.41 | Corbo | the russian version is better |
| 21:57.51 | nicoli_s | russian version of what? |
| 21:57.57 | Corbo | scintilla |
| 21:57.58 | Corbo | >.> |
| 21:58.31 | Corbo | but what he probably means is that it'd be better to include some simple syntax highlight on the text editor. |
| 21:58.37 | Zoxc | what's the difference, russian comments? |
| 21:58.38 | nicoli_s | yes, def |
| 21:58.43 | nicoli_s | thats ckknight's job :P |
| 21:58.50 | Bifuu | lol |
| 21:58.54 | Zoxc | no, I mean you should use that specific component :) |
| 21:59.11 | Corbo | why exactly? |
| 21:59.42 | Bifuu | if you need any other C# people helping i can aid possibly |
| 22:00.00 | Zoxc | it's the best editor component I know of |
| 22:00.05 | nicoli_s | we'd love one Bifuu |
| 22:00.39 | nicoli_s | time is of the essence, so contribute however you can |
| 22:01.59 | Shirik | ... |
| 22:02.03 | Bifuu | well i may be of some use then haha other than picking apart xml files |
| 22:02.53 | Bifuu | Anyone that plays protoss: When a zealot has charge, does he charge automatically when you tell it to attack? |
| 22:03.08 | nicoli_s | never gotten charge before |
| 22:03.32 | Sixen | yes he does, bifuu |
| 22:03.36 | Sixen | there's a cooldown on it though, I believe. |
| 22:03.51 | Sixen | Once you attack, it auto-casts. |
| 22:04.37 | Bifuu | alright all i needed to know |
| 22:04.49 | Shaki | so |
| 22:04.49 | Shaki | poop? |
| 22:05.17 | Shaki | well im gonna map |
| 22:08.17 | Sixen | and nic, did you see what corbo did yesterday? Pretty sick |
| 22:08.20 | Sixen | He made Terran Zealots. |
| 22:08.23 | Shaki | LOLZ MY MOMS GETTING CUSSED BY MY BRO!! |
| 22:08.24 | Shaki | lol |
| 22:08.26 | Shaki | . |
| 22:08.50 | Shaki | Ya nic it was pretty epic. |
| 22:09.07 | Shaki | He like added textures :D |
| 22:09.22 | nicoli_s | heh nice |
| 22:11.00 | Shaki | uh where was i |
| 22:11.00 | Shaki | :P |
| 22:11.01 | Bifuu | http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1531/screenshot064h.jpg <-- Terran Zealots in question |
| 22:11.17 | Bifuu | dont ask why i have that link saved lol |
| 22:12.13 | Sixen | ;) |
| 22:12.17 | Sixen | He made some green ones too. |
| 22:12.27 | Bifuu | i got that link too if you want it |
| 22:12.28 | Bifuu | lol |
| 22:12.34 | Sixen | :p |
| 22:12.48 | Bifuu | http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6438/screenshot076pu.jpg |
| 22:13.20 | Bifuu | Is there some fancy Wiki way of making a Horizontal Rule? else this page is ganna get messy fast |
| 22:13.50 | Sixen | I think it's like.. ---- |
| 22:13.51 | Sixen | Lemme check. |
| 22:14.32 | Bifuu | --- gave me a really tiny little red line lol |
| 22:14.52 | Sixen | It's 4 dashes |
| 22:15.10 | Bifuu | that was my next guess |
| 22:15.11 | Bifuu | thanks |
| 22:17.26 | Bifuu | oh wow im blind i just noticed you first said 4 dashes |
| 22:17.36 | Bifuu | any waaaaays |
| 22:18.56 | Sixen | ;) |
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| 22:30.17 | Bifuu | jeez some of these child nodes in these xmls almost deserve their own pages |
| 22:32.55 | Sixen | =| |
| 22:33.59 | Bifuu | like Flags for abilities, theres so many of them lol |
| 22:35.32 | Sixen | Yeah, that's kinda ridiculous. |
| 22:37.01 | Bifuu | they have to be defined somewhere too, i need to try to find where, what would be the place to document them |
| 22:38.54 | Sixen | Depends on where they're defined. |
| 22:39.21 | Sixen | In /GameFiles/ (on the wiki), is a list of the relevant game files for mapping. |
| 22:39.59 | Sixen | Then again, depending on what it is, you may be able to just put it in the xml page. |
| 22:41.46 | Bifuu | Well for now im just using what given as an example with out being too redundant and giving a general idea. and some of these abilities have 5 and 6 flags, it would just clutter the page to list them all where they are called. That or it just might be me structuring these pages badly |
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| 22:48.42 | Sixen | Hrm? |
| 22:49.05 | Sixen | You don't think we should list everything for completeness? |
| 22:49.43 | Bifuu | well everything will be listed |
| 22:50.05 | Bifuu | but like on the unitdata page, how after a few things theres a list of all the things possible to go in there |
| 22:50.13 | Bifuu | for some things that list will be long |
| 22:50.22 | Bifuu | so they might need their own sections |
| 22:51.26 | Shaki | mapping is fun when your not making triggers and spells and quests |
| 22:51.27 | Shaki | :P |
| 22:51.33 | Bifuu | Flagarray in UnitData is a good example actually |
| 22:52.08 | Bifuu | if you ever wint into detail about each of those flags your ganna get alot of clutter |
| 22:52.27 | Bifuu | plus when the page gets reformatted to xmldoc, it will be interesting to see how that list will fit |
| 22:58.56 | Hunter_Killers | just need [+] and [-] next to lists :P |
| 22:59.36 | Bifuu | i guess lol |
| 23:00.23 | Bifuu | or a section on the page for it, with links to that section where needed is what i was thinking |
| 23:00.57 | Bifuu | that i would imagine would be the least redundant for a page like AbilData |
| 23:01.29 | Bifuu | 23 differnt parents using the same children, so confusing at times xD |
| 23:01.46 | Hunter_Killers | ever look at actordata? |
| 23:02.00 | Bifuu | nope |
| 23:02.08 | Hunter_Killers | even effects is just as bad |
| 23:02.40 | Bifuu | yeah ok ActorData is a much uhh much |
| 23:03.18 | Hunter_Killers | i wouldn't know how to format them if i tried to do them |
| 23:03.26 | HP2 | hahaha |
| 23:03.32 | Bifuu | im mainly trying to document the unit stuff for now so if people want to play with the xml files manually they know what is what |
| 23:03.37 | HP2 | So far I've done one thing with actordaya |
| 23:03.45 | HP2 | opened it, said fuck this and closed it again |
| 23:03.48 | Bifuu | haha |
| 23:04.23 | Hunter_Killers | lol |
| 23:04.44 | Bifuu | it only has 11938 lines! its not thaaat bad |
| 23:04.46 | HP2 | hmm |
| 23:04.58 | HP2 | e_unitFlagHero |
| 23:04.58 | HP2 | Hero |
| 23:04.58 | Hunter_Killers | i'm personally more interested in the limitations of each field |
| 23:04.59 | HP2 | yarrrrr |
| 23:05.11 | Hunter_Killers | like hp/shields/energy caps at 1,000,000 |
| 23:05.29 | Bifuu | ah |
| 23:05.43 | Hunter_Killers | or having too low of a turn rate disables turning |
| 23:05.46 | Bifuu | when you find things like that are you ganna document them too? would be useful im sure |
| 23:06.16 | Hunter_Killers | i usually do if i find the exact numbers |
| 23:06.40 | Bifuu | actually now that you say hp caps at 1mil that kinda screws up one of my main ideas for a map =/ |
| 23:06.43 | Hunter_Killers | which can take a while with how broken slow turning and moving is with air units |
| 23:07.00 | Sixen | Document it HK! |
| 23:07.09 | Hunter_Killers | as far as i know damage can go down several decimal points |
| 23:07.13 | Sixen | Also bifuu, I was maybe thinking making the page just a list of each |
| 23:07.22 | Sixen | and then make each parent their own page... |
| 23:07.37 | Bifuu | thast alot of pages haha |
| 23:07.41 | Sixen | SC2 API / GamFiles / XML / AbilData.xml / <parent> |
| 23:07.45 | Sixen | Truth |
| 23:07.54 | Sixen | I'd rather have it all on one page personally. |
| 23:08.04 | Bifuu | yeah same |
| 23:08.07 | Fisker | Would the game even have a cap like that? |
| 23:08.13 | Bifuu | my thought was, have a section for the lists |
| 23:09.01 | Bifuu | like for me, i would have a list at the bottom of the page for all the know possibilitys for the <Flags> node, then everytime i mention the flasgs not i can just provide a link to te bottom to the list |
| 23:09.26 | Sixen | hm |
| 23:09.29 | Sixen | Isntead of within each section |
| 23:09.30 | Sixen | ? |
| 23:10.46 | Bifuu | yeah, because so far it looks like most of these parents uses the Flags child, so if i listed a long list of flags under each parent, the page would be stretch and would be really redundant |
| 23:10.57 | Bifuu | so it would be best to keep it at one list |
| 23:11.03 | Bifuu | somewhere on the page |
| 23:11.29 | Bifuu | or if multiple files uses the same list it could warrant a page just for the list |
| 23:11.32 | Sixen | Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh |
| 23:11.41 | Sixen | And they each have the same list of variables, correct? |
| 23:11.45 | Bifuu | yes |
| 23:13.28 | Bifuu | To be honest listing these children nodes over and over is starting to seem redundant to me haha might be best to have a list of commonly shared Children as well |
| 23:14.38 | Sixen | Perhaps at the bottom, a list would be a smart idea |
| 23:14.44 | Sixen | OR, do what I said in another fashion |
| 23:15.12 | Sixen | SC2 API / GamFiles / XML / AbilData.xml / Flags |
| 23:15.17 | Sixen | Just have the list of variables there |
| 23:15.25 | Sixen | and link to that page in the flags section of each parent |
| 23:15.26 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 23:15.32 | Sixen | That'd work. |
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| 23:16.04 | Witchsong | Yo! |
| 23:16.27 | Sixen | ./wave |
| 23:17.19 | Witchsong | I think I maybe like C# now, it's all pretty with pointers and stuff. :D |
| 23:18.25 | Bifuu | C# is the best! lol |
| 23:18.46 | Sixen | :) |
| 23:18.46 | Witchsong | Well, C++ beats the crap out of it in performance for some tasks. |
| 23:19.54 | Witchsong | But, at the same time there are so many issues when you make stuff in C++. :P |
| 23:20.40 | Bifuu | C# helps me do everything i want so i like it haha |
| 23:20.55 | Bifuu | that + XNA is what i mainly been using |
| 23:21.35 | Witchsong | XNA is nice for prototyping. |
| 23:22.18 | Bifuu | or being a hobbyist xD |
| 23:22.36 | Bifuu | UDK is prolly better for prototyping now that its free |
| 23:24.00 | HP2 | Go basic! |
| 23:24.10 | Witchsong | Hmmmm... Reading files seem to be a bit different in C# and C++. I'm used to just fread() the whole file into a char buffer when reading binary data. |
| 23:34.04 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/abil-data-xml/ by Bifuu |
| 23:37.40 | Sixen | Wow bifuu =) |
| 23:39.32 | Bifuu | good? |
| 23:40.18 | Sixen | Very ^_^ |
| 23:41.25 | Bifuu | cool glad im useful then hahaha |
| 23:41.57 | Sixen | =) |
| 23:42.00 | Bifuu | plus these xml files are full od gems so it keeps it interesting |
| 23:42.08 | Sixen | No doubt :) |
| 23:42.13 | Sixen | Any idea what files are used for the UI Layout? |
| 23:42.23 | Bifuu | uhhh lemme see |
| 23:42.45 | Sixen | I have: .sc2layout, .otf, .ttf |
| 23:42.54 | Sixen | Are there graphic files that are assosiated? |
| 23:43.35 | Sixen | Ah. Looks like it's .swf |
| 23:44.01 | Bifuu | prolly some .m3s are used in the ui |
| 23:44.17 | Bifuu | .dds aswell |
| 23:44.35 | Bifuu | yea .dds definately, theres a ton of ui textures |
| 23:46.51 | Sixen | Bleh, this'll be hard. |
| 23:46.55 | Sixen | They're all over. |
| 23:49.10 | Bifuu | well the main things i bet are the .dds and maybe the .sc2layouts |
| 23:49.27 | Sixen | Interesting. |
| 23:49.31 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.32 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.32 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.38 | Sixen | So they want us to mod stuff |
| 23:49.38 | Sixen | :D |
| 23:49.46 | Bifuu | the .swf are prolly just like the tutorial videos and stuff |
| 23:49.52 | Bifuu | haha |
| 23:50.08 | Sixen | the swf I think is the bnet UI |
| 23:50.36 | Sixen | lol, I think Corbo's going to cry. |
| 23:50.40 | Sixen | I think I found what he was lookingfor. |
| 23:51.03 | Bifuu | so if those comments are for us, anyone in here named alan? |
| 23:51.12 | Bifuu | <!-- Disabled until Alan has a chance to fix text tag display |
| 23:51.13 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.13 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.13 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.13 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.13 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.22 | Sixen | Alan is an sc2 dev |
| 23:51.22 | Sixen | :X |
| 23:54.36 | Bifuu | lol i know |
| 23:54.42 | Bifuu | i just trying to make a haha |
| 23:54.51 | Sixen | :P |
| 23:55.38 | Bifuu | like all the code for overload is still in here, just commented out |
| 23:55.59 | Bifuu | would be neat if they left it there for release, people might want to recreate it |
| 23:56.54 | Sixen | Yeah, seriously :X |
| 23:57.55 | Bifuu | i should save it maybe then just in case xD |
| 23:58.22 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.23 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.23 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.23 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.23 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.23 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.23 | Bifuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.43 | Sixen | yes :) |
