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| 16:02.34 | deathbeams | Hi, how does Command.Tooltip() work? I have tried several values from Items.xml. I've tried ItemKey, AddonType's first value by itself (the only one that starts with an I), AddonType's complete content including commas, and the TemplateID. |
| 16:04.09 | deathbeams | I've tried using these values as Command.Tooltip(value), Command.Tooltip("value"), Command.Tooltip(Inspect.Item.Detail(value)), Command.Tooltip(Inspect.Item.Detail("value")), Command.Tooltip(Inspect.Item.Detail(value).id), Command.Tooltip(Inspect.Item.Detail("value").id) |
| 16:05.18 | deathbeams | Think I also tried putting the values in Item() instead of Detail(). |
| 16:11.00 | deathbeams | The API just says Command.Tooltip(target) where target is a variant. "Currently accepts ability, item, or itemtype IDs. Pass nil to clear the tooltip." |
| 16:26.16 | seebs | I'm not 100% sure anymore, but I think it was the ID. |
| 16:26.46 | seebs | Note that "item or itemtype" means that it should work both for "items" (say, the contents of a specific inventory slot) and "item types" (like the tags you get for the generic form of an item.) |
| 16:29.29 | deathbeams | I made a webpage where I can parse <any/multiple field(s)> of all items in Items.xml that are wardrobe items into a list. I want to copy and paste this into a lua script that will display the tooltip for that item, then use the /tweetpic feature to tweet a screenshot with the item id as the message. |
| 16:31.37 | seebs | neat. |
| 16:31.41 | seebs | that's clever! |
| 16:31.55 | seebs | anyway, i seem to recall that there was weirdness with command.tooltip taking time to take effect or something. |
| 16:32.19 | seebs | I think there's a /script built in you can use to experiment a bit, and you might find RiftRC and SlashPrint useful for debugging. |
| 16:32.23 | seebs | I think they still work? |
| 16:33.37 | deathbeams | Then download all the twitter data, .net batch crop (tooltips always set in top right corner), batch convert pics to pdf, use acrobat for ocr ouputted to files with the item id as the file name, then .net to get a single list of ItemKey:Appearance Name |
| 16:34.20 | seebs | clever! |
| 16:34.56 | seebs | hmm. you shouldn't need OCR, though, since you already have that information available. |
| 16:35.01 | deathbeams | one freaking intersection table would negate the need for all of this, but no one's done it yet. don't even have a built-in scriptable screenshot command. |
| 16:35.38 | deathbeams | I can't find an item's appearance set in the XML, on magelo, anywhere. |
| 16:36.13 | seebs | Oh, wait a second. You're doing ItemKey to {Appearance, Name}. But name is in the data, it's just the appearance that's missing, I think? |
| 16:36.26 | seebs | Oh, but you need to correlate the twitter stuff. Hmm. |
| 16:36.28 | seebs | *thinks* |
| 16:38.26 | deathbeams | picture with appearance name as text and attached comment with itemkey from twitter data. crop pictures, rename picture to itemkey, then after OCR I'll be left with <itemkey>.txt contains all text from tooltip. |
| 16:38.57 | seebs | is the appearance name showing up in the tooltip, but not in any of the inspect.* results? |
| 16:39.59 | deathbeams | I've been using luapad and it leaves me feeling wholly worthless with all things lua. |
| 16:40.31 | deathbeams | I can use it to see the memory address of a command or something but can't get any actual info out of it |
| 16:40.46 | deathbeams | probably just a matter of not knowing how to use it right. |
| 16:41.05 | seebs | I haven't used that one much. riftrc and slashprint were what I wrote to let me do things I often cared about, and see the output. |
| 16:41.38 | deathbeams | I'd prefer to use lua to inspect all of these IDs, scrape all the text to a file, and work with that. if that's possible, this becomes stupid simple. |
| 16:42.57 | seebs | The text is super easy to scrape, the trick is getting the file output. Whereupon, you might find my DocExport or whatever I called it interesting. |
| 16:43.16 | seebs | Basically, I made a thing that scrapes data into saved variables, then another lua program which runs externally and reads the saved variables. |
| 16:45.27 | deathbeams | it can scrape that out of ram without the program freaking out? |
| 16:46.13 | deathbeams | I haven't done anything with running external programs to Rift. I know people do stuff like that to hack other games and games use memory watchdogs to combat it. |
| 16:46.37 | deathbeams | Don't know what Rift does in that regard. I'm looking at your slashprint addon |
| 16:52.37 | seebs | the saved variables are written to a file |
| 16:52.57 | seebs | so, you can't do it real-time, but you run an addon, you store variables that you've marked for saving, and the variables are dumped into files |
| 16:53.03 | seebs | but those files are just plain lua source code that sets the variables |
| 16:53.05 | deathbeams | Does inspecting an item let you get the Appearance info? The closest I see in the Item.Detail members is description and flavor text, but I think both of those are included in the xml. |
| 16:53.10 | seebs | so you can load them from another thing. |
| 16:53.23 | seebs | I don't know about the appearance, stuff has changed a lot since I last did anything with it. |
| 16:54.35 | deathbeams | Yeah, I think Zorba mentioned that they don't have an API way of getting the appearance info. Feel bad for him on the one hand because he gets pulled in so many different directions. On the other hand he's useful for so many things. Hope he gets to do some of the ones that he's interested in. |
| 16:56.11 | deathbeams | Unless there's a way to scrape the tooltip frame programatically, it's at the point of screenshots now. |
| 16:57.30 | seebs | yeah. weird that the tooltip can show it. |
| 16:57.43 | seebs | And I don't think there is a way to read that frame, or at least, I don't recall finding one? |
| 16:58.37 | deathbeams | Hmm, might look into wireshark before resorting to /tweetpic. Either they're sending that info over or it's already on my computer. |
| 16:59.45 | seebs | Might be possible for them to add it to the discovery logs, they've added stuff before when people pointed out it was missing. |
| 17:03.54 | deathbeams | Possible, yes, priority, no. Or at least it hasn't been. Archonix said "Our focus for 2017 is brining back much of the quality that has been lacking in our updates as of late." A bunch of bug patches and updates are supposed to be a part of that. |
| 17:09.06 | deathbeams | Hopefully they'll include the data or update the API. Not holding by breath for now. Still a fun game. |
| 17:09.46 | deathbeams | bbl |
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