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| 20:32.13 | krag0th | Is there an event that fires when hitting the loading screen (for any reason)? Unit Availability is definitely not it. |
| 20:37.00 | seebs | I never found one. |
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| 20:37.49 | seebs | I think the only reason for which I actually *cared* about determining whether this was the first UI load after a login got fixed, finally. |
| 20:38.10 | seebs | It used to be impossible to turn logging on persistently, and I think there's still no way to determine whether logging is on. |
| 20:38.20 | seebs | And chat logging persists through client lifetime, so if you turn it on, then log out and log back in, it's still on. |
| 20:38.25 | seebs | But the command is a toggle. |
| 20:39.02 | krag0th | Oh Trino. |
| 20:40.05 | krag0th | I was looking for it because I want to unreg events and "pause" while zoning. |
| 20:40.10 | seebs | Well, they added a persistent chat logging thing so I don't care. |
| 20:40.12 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 20:40.27 | seebs | I don't know for sure of an event for that. I seem to recall I found a workaround once, but now I can't remember what. |
| 20:40.40 | krag0th | But I can work around it. Just convenience I'm accustomed to from WoW. |
| 20:41.10 | seebs | I note, when people ask about learning to program, and I suggest that they do addons, I still suggest Rift, just because quirks and all, I hate it much less than I hated doing addons in WoW. It's got missing bits, true, but the overall organization and design suits me better. |
| 20:41.30 | krag0th | The filler: I'm working on (and almost done with) an Onslaught helper. It'll track your progress, and use the messaging API to broadcast about new/expired onslaughts. |
| 20:41.52 | seebs | Huh, that seems neat! |
| 20:42.35 | krag0th | It'll be called "Octave's Onslaught Helper" in Curse eventually. |
| 20:42.57 | krag0th | I have most of it done. The biggest thing left is the UI. |
| 20:43.12 | seebs | I usually expect UI to be "most" of the work. |
| 20:43.54 | krag0th | I'm trying to use Naifu's EnKai lib as the boilerplate/abstraction layer. But as with all things. There's never enough time to write kick ass documentation. |
| 20:44.18 | seebs | I haven't tried that one yet. |
| 20:44.43 | seebs | I've done a couple of very-specific UI abstraction layer things for Rift, but nothing general. Never had the motivation, really. |
| 20:44.46 | krag0th | Having never written an Addon for Rift there have been tons of hilarous moments. A lot of them revolved around remembering how2lua |
| 20:44.57 | seebs | Might think about it again sometime, although I've been pretty inactive roughly forever. |
| 20:46.03 | krag0th | I'm looking for an easy-enough to use grid-ish system. I want to be able to display {location, zone, shard, age/uptime} and the tooltip will give more fun stuff like closest port. |
| 20:46.11 | krag0th | and clicking set the Waypoint |
| 20:49.24 | krag0th | Once this addon is done. I'll refactor it into logical modules. It's a lot messier than I was expecting. Then I'll make an identical version for tracking NMRs. The "Power of Nightmares" addon is cool and all, but it needs some major love. |
| 20:49.56 | seebs | HAve you looked at Gadgets? |
| 20:50.11 | seebs | I don't know whether it got updated, the last time I was looking at it I think one of its dependencies hadn't moved to the new event model yet. |
| 20:50.20 | seebs | But I used Gadgets for some things and was moderately happy with it. |
| 20:50.21 | krag0th | I use the hell out of Gadgets for my own fun. Do they have easymode UI goodies? |
| 20:51.19 | seebs | Sorta? They have a UI toolkit they incorporate which I think was usable, although not hugely powerful. But may be buggy or obsolete, I haven't looked in ages. |
| 20:51.41 | krag0th | That's one of the problems I've seen a lot. So much stuff is getting abandoned. |
| 20:51.43 | seebs | The main thing they give you is that they'll take care of the "move windows around and store their locations and settings" thing automatically. |
| 20:53.00 | seebs | One thing I do rather like is that I don't *have* to update things much. Like, I have stuff that I haven't updated since about 2.4 and it's still working fine last I heard. |
| 20:53.42 | seebs | I also occasionally get notifications about errors, although at least some of them, the error is clearly "someone installed this addon wrong". |
| 20:53.54 | krag0th | jaja |
| 20:53.56 | krag0th | *haha |
| 20:54.27 | krag0th | There's so much "special" stuff I've noticed in doing this as well. Like Inspect.Shard() pretty useless. |
| 20:54.42 | krag0th | So I've been looking through a lot of popular addons to see how they deal with things. |
| 20:55.36 | seebs | Inspect.Shard() is less useful now, I suspect; it predates shard-hopping. |
| 20:55.49 | seebs | I found a nice special case where Inspect.Unit.Detail('player').name is wrong. |
| 20:56.10 | seebs | There's one specific quest chain that occasionally turns you into other people in a way that changes the name reported by the API. |
| 20:56.27 | krag0th | Oh god. |
| 20:56.49 | seebs | Yeah. Best I've been able to think of to work around it is that if the player name has a space in it, you should try again later. |
| 20:57.35 | krag0th | Yeah, I'm very very cautious in how I get and update my "known good" data |
| 20:58.03 | krag0th | So far the "best" way to get the current shard is to look through the chat channel list. |
| 20:58.07 | krag0th | Which made me laugh. |
| 20:58.36 | seebs | I am not sure what Inspect.Shard() returns. I didn't do much shard hopping so it never occurred to me to check. |
| 20:59.05 | krag0th | It returns your home shard information |
| 20:59.17 | seebs | Ahh. |
| 20:59.35 | krag0th | So {name="Hailol", rp=false, pvp=false} |
| 20:59.38 | seebs | Interestingly, that happens to be what I usually want, since I want it for character disambiguation. |