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| 05:10.16 | Naifu | ZorbaTHut i have encountered a strange problem in modifying values: local a = {}; local b = a; b.test = 1 should result into a being {test = 1} and this works most of the time. But I got some occassions where a is not updated by this. Could this be due to too large data being put into it? |
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| 12:12.26 | Grepsd | ha, naifu, just got the same issue, i can't reproduce it whenever i want, it just happen sometime |
| 13:13.32 | ZorbaTHut | huh, that's weird. shouldn't happen - my gut feeling is that there is actually some other bug |
| 13:13.42 | ZorbaTHut | but I could try an update of luajit |
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| 14:10.41 | Naifu | guys has someone an idea how I could gather the quest npc coords without manually finding the npc and typing them in .. we are talking about something like 9000 npc ... |
| 14:14.40 | Ivnedar | run a "Plat for Lats" competition where you divide up the npcs into bundles and get people to run through the game gathering coords for them, submit the completed ones to get sent plats |
| 14:15.18 | Ivnedar | mini addon that shows list of assigned npcs and ticks off the ones it's recorded |
| 14:15.22 | Naifu | good suggestion but the 'problem' is that I have absolutely no plat only like 30 due to me basically not playing the game just doing addons :P |
| 14:15.45 | Naifu | but I guess a small 'recording addon' will be the only way |
| 14:16.48 | Ivnedar | offer credit in the addon instead of plat? |
| 14:17.03 | Ivnedar | some people might do it for the treasure hunt side of it |
| 14:17.16 | Ivnedar | or to get the high score on completed assignments |
| 14:19.31 | Ivnedar | worst case, you do the assignments yourself, but are able to track your progress |
| 14:19.50 | Ivnedar | best cast, communitity does the leg work and gets a npc database in return |
| 14:20.06 | Ivnedar | cast/case |
| 14:21.53 | Ivnedar | would be nice if we could pull back quest objectives once the quest was completed |
| 14:22.05 | Ivnedar | then you could harvest someone's completed quest history for coords |
| 14:23.08 | Naifu | Some smart thinking but without incenditve (rex or plat) it's not gonna work. The player left in Rift are an extremely lazy bunch. I get almost no feedback to my addons |
| 14:23.30 | Naifu | Had an alpha / beta running for my new map addon. Put a post in the forum and 0, zera, nada, kein feedback |
| 14:28.22 | Ivnedar | you could add in quest icons for existing quests |
| 14:28.43 | Naifu | I don't know their location. Thats not reported by the API |
| 14:29.12 | Ivnedar | don't the objectives for each stage list coords? |
| 14:29.47 | Ivnedar | hrrm, could have sworn some of them gave more info |
| 14:29.48 | Naifu | I really wish Trion would take a bit of time and add the missing stuff to the existing API functionality. Things would be so much easier and performance would be better for the addons |
| 14:30.02 | Naifu | Hmmm haven't looked at the objectives |
| 14:30.08 | Ivnedar | yeah, in objectives -> indicator |
| 14:30.23 | Ivnedar | if any map references exist for that objective, it should have the coords there |
| 14:30.48 | Ivnedar | it won't give quest start |
| 14:31.10 | Naifu | you're right that's included |
| 14:31.32 | Naifu | I'm running my own custom map by now so I have full control over coordinates and map display :) |
| 14:31.33 | Ivnedar | that'd at least cover any complaints about it removing info that's shown by the default map |
| 14:31.34 | Naifu | AWESOME |
| 14:32.00 | Naifu | So what's missing now is quest starters and quest finishers |
| 14:32.22 | Ivnedar | turnin should be an indicator? |
| 14:32.49 | Naifu | yeah that could be |
| 14:33.31 | Ivnedar | when you say quest starters, do you mean the ones that the client points you to, or ones that show on the minimap when you're close, or all quests? |
| 14:33.39 | Naifu | And quest starters are normally just normal NPC in most cases. A small addon which captures npcs on mouseover and it's not THAT much of work |
| 14:33.43 | Ivnedar | 'cause the first 2 may come out of the map inspect stuff |
| 14:33.56 | Ivnedar | the all quests one would take a lot more work |
| 14:33.58 | Naifu | nah tried that they don't turn up on map inspect |
| 14:35.39 | Naifu | Hmmm minor thing with the indicator is that it doesn't feature the world this happens in |
| 14:35.58 | Ivnedar | ah yes, welcome to the fun that is rift coords :D |
| 14:36.08 | Naifu | the coordinate system for world 1-3 is not shared |
| 14:36.55 | Ivnedar | coords really should add a world or map id |
| 14:37.02 | Ivnedar | x,y,z,map |
| 14:37.15 | Ivnedar | that shouldn't break anything |
| 14:37.32 | Naifu | yep wish ZorbaTHut would eventually find the time to fix such small things |
| 14:37.54 | Naifu | Now I'm already thinking about addon pattern recognition to quest texts to identify target zone |
| 14:38.19 | Naifu | grrr from some there's a categoryName which includes scene info |
| 14:38.33 | Naifu | but that's scene not zone |
| 14:39.12 | Naifu | so that would mean another manually compiled lua table pointing scene to zone which of course is client language depended so I'd have to compile it in the various client languages |
| 14:39.20 | Naifu | And all because of that missing flag in the API |
| 14:43.46 | Ivnedar | the quest in the discovery data would have the zone |
| 14:44.11 | Ivnedar | if you have zone -> map table and the questid -> zone table, you could work out which map a quest was in |
| 14:44.13 | Naifu | did a sql query on my imported data right after writing the above :D |
| 14:44.21 | Ivnedar | :) |
| 14:45.25 | Naifu | There is a way. I just wish the API was better. I'm loosing so much time on stuff like this which I could spend into making the adons better. I stronly believe the state of the API is why were a no longer seeing any addons being build |
| 15:07.43 | Ivnedar | nite :) |
| 15:16.30 | Naifu | nite :) |
| 15:56.54 | Grepsd | Did any of you had chance laterly with Unit.Detail().tier ? it seems to return nil all the time for me, be it on a raid or a group. |
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