| 00:28.21 | Ivnedar | The gender pronouns threw me for a bit til I realised that's what they were. Liked it though |
| 01:18.22 | seebs | Although I'm not sold on the analysis, because what if the originator of a thing might have been something *other* than one of the biological species, or only a biological species that *did* get interfered with? |
| 01:18.36 | seebs | It's a good argument against wiping everything out, though. |
| 02:32.54 | Ivnedar | wow, blizzard definitely work at different scales. added latest expansion (not the one in 2-3 weeks) to the base game for $20, subscriber figures went up 600k ... |
| 02:45.18 | seebs | oh cool |
| 02:45.20 | seebs | so I just got a thing where I see shadows... |
| 02:45.22 | seebs | which are unambiguously "random bit static". :) |
| 02:51.16 | Noshei | ugg |
| 02:51.31 | Noshei | Greybriar crashed, and now all shards just crashed |
| 02:55.20 | seebs | ayup |
| 02:55.30 | seebs | well, if that means they *don't* have to do a second rollback, I am all for it. |
| 03:03.46 | seebs | "At this time, all NA shards have crashed, and we are in the process of bringing them back online. As soon as I've got more details for you, I'll be back with more. Thanks for your patience." |
| 03:05.54 | Noshei | yeah, saw that |
| 06:09.53 | ZorbaTHut | oy, the electrical system in this house sucks |
| 06:10.03 | ZorbaTHut | my wife's computer and several parts of the upstairs no longer have electrical power |
| 06:10.21 | ZorbaTHut | the fusebox has six fuses. the first fuse handles my computer, the entryway, and the living room. the third fuse handles the remaining parts of upstairs. |
| 06:10.29 | ZorbaTHut | fuses 2, 4, 5, and 6 apparently don't control anything. |
| 06:10.55 | ZorbaTHut | nothing controls the garage, nor does anything control the stove, nor does replacing any of the other fuses get my wife's computer or our bedroom back up and running. |
| 06:11.11 | ZorbaTHut | seriously I unplugged all the fuses and the fridge in the garage kept happily humming along. >_< |
| 06:11.12 | Ivnedar | O_o |
| 06:11.13 | Ivnedar | wow |
| 06:12.18 | ZorbaTHut | given the landlord's previously observed approach to electrical work, this honestly doesn't surprise me, though - we requested three-prong outlets when we moved in, we got three-prong ungrounded outlets, which are like *totally* illegal |
| 06:24.48 | seebs | So when do we get an API hook for Manugo? |
| 06:24.50 | seebs | Command.Manugo.Play(300) |
| 06:25.06 | Ivnedar | Inspect.Manugo.Get() |
| 06:25.10 | Ivnedar | returns current Manugo |
| 06:37.16 | seebs | Yeah, that sort of is. |
| 06:38.06 | seebs | Huh. So my laptop, which I *think* is playing rift, has screenblanked, and now it is staying screenblanked. Fans still running. |
| 06:38.18 | seebs | I think the TV power-cycled. |
| 06:39.22 | seebs | Yeah. TV turned itself off enough that I had to actually turn it back on. |
| 06:40.05 | seebs | ... and interstingly, my model no longer has hair. |
| 06:41.16 | seebs | But the portrait on the player frame does. |
| 08:25.40 | ZorbaTHut | I really don't understand why compression is even considered optional for data transfer. At the very least, something like Snappy is practically a straight-up win - you probably save more CPU talking to the network card than you do compressing with Snappy |
| 08:25.47 | ZorbaTHut | and given that, *why does perforce make you turn compression on manually* |
| 08:26.03 | ZorbaTHut | (er, *than you spend compressing with snappy) |
| 08:46.32 | seebs | ooh, neat |
| 08:46.34 | seebs | now my screen is all black and I am getting 6fps |
| 08:48.31 | Ivnedar | how can you tell fps with an all black screen? |
| 08:48.33 | Ivnedar | second monitor? |
| 09:48.18 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 09:49.28 | seebs | Hey, a suggestion to pass on: |
| 09:49.38 | seebs | While the stupid is probably impenetrable... |
| 09:50.34 | seebs | It might be worth an *attempt* at explaining that, no, Trion doesn't keep current backups for most servers, and day-old backups for Faeblight, out of spite or something. |
| 09:50.44 | seebs | People appear unable to comprehend the idea that hardware failures might produce different results for different data sets. |
| 09:52.11 | Ivnedar | and that DR plans never seem to go as planned :) |
| 09:52.13 | seebs | Someone in chat just explained that of course Trion could restore all the items from the missing day, because they just have to check the item logs. |
| 09:52.36 | Noshei | so I am already expert mark capped for this week |
| 09:52.39 | Ivnedar | which may just reside on the very same hardware? :) |
| 09:53.36 | seebs | Because what got lost was the database, see. Not the logs. |
| 09:54.06 | ZorbaTHut | in fairness to them, "logs" and "database" are actually two separate things in our case, but I'm assuming logs vanished too because otherwise we'd probably restore at least levels |
| 09:59.32 | Ivnedar | where "logs" is a separate table on the database? :D |
| 10:00.56 | ZorbaTHut | flat text files. keepin' it simple |
| 10:01.01 | Ivnedar | nice |
| 10:01.07 | Ivnedar | now filled with nulls? |
| 10:01.36 | ZorbaTHut | dunno, haven't asked. If I had to guess, I'd say they probably failed to replicate to the appropriate storage place, and got nuked when whatever happened to the server happened |
| 10:01.51 | Ivnedar | *nod* |
| 10:02.45 | ZorbaTHut | a lot of these things have multiple levels of redundancy, and pretty much all of them have failed at one point or another, except most of the time there's enough redundancy that nobody besides us notices. I guess this time we got unlucky. |
| 10:15.43 | Ivnedar | we once had a system who's filesystems had been moved between storage servers repeatedly due to various reasons. ended up with 3-4 copies of it. someone cleaned up the 2-3 old ones |
| 10:16.05 | Ivnedar | sadly one of the "old ones" was still the production filesystem |
| 10:16.19 | Ivnedar | and backups were coming from one of the other "old ones" that wasn't prod :) |
| 10:16.59 | Ivnedar | 3-4 month rollback of data, nothing else we could do |
| 10:17.05 | ZorbaTHut | ouch |
| 10:19.31 | Ivnedar | held out hope that the storage vendor could undelete the prod one |
| 10:19.41 | Ivnedar | but nope |
| 10:28.20 | seebs | UI still working. Just the 3D rendering was all gone. |
| 10:28.54 | seebs | Kept getting all-3D-goes-black and horrible framerates, restarted game, fine now. |
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| 14:02.26 | seebs | Huh, I was under the impression that there was a significant amount of logging which was basically huge databases of transaction history. |
| 14:05.04 | seebs | There was some comment in one of the threads that there was a restore operation which was throwing a very very strange error about an hour and a half in. |
| 14:05.05 | seebs | Which sounds a lot like "replay transaction logs on top of database". |
| 14:09.14 | seebs | Gonna go sleep a bit. I think I have about another 8 hours of EL. |
| 14:10.09 | seebs | There is a whole lot of confused going on about what if any compensation is being done. Apparently some people, but not all, have gotten emails saying they get 750 credits of compensation. |
| 14:10.09 | seebs | And some people have inferred that this means that is *the* compensation and there will be nothing else, and that people who haven't gotten the emails get nothing. |
| 21:44.28 | Repo | safekoto: kekoas * r8 (5 files in 3 directories): (8) Update 1.0.6 |