| 01:08.50 | seebs | hmm |
| 01:09.05 | seebs | Zorba, didn't you mention something at one point about getting one of those fancy ergonomic desks that can adjust height relatively easily? |
| 01:09.42 | ZorbaBeta | yep, I actually have one at home now |
| 01:09.54 | ZorbaBeta | hasn't gotten a lot of use yet - I set it up but haven't gotten something comfortable to stand on |
| 01:10.43 | seebs | I have been pretty happy with my gel floor mat. |
| 01:10.44 | Ivnedar_ | I alternate between fatigue mat and carpet |
| 01:11.05 | ZorbaBeta | I've got one at work. I've been considering trying out a treadmill for home |
| 01:11.25 | Ivnedar_ | hrrm, interesting |
| 01:12.08 | ZorbaBeta | sadly they seem to run the gamut from "really expensive" to "ungodly expensive" |
| 01:12.52 | Imhothar1 | I doubt my colleague would find the noise of a treadmill pleasant in our room |
| 01:13.04 | Ivnedar_ | I've only recently discovered elfedit. It's saving me soooo much hair pulling trying to get rpaths through configure/make into linker |
| 01:13.18 | Ivnedar_ | so now I don't care what it gets linked with, I just clean it up afterwards :D |
| 01:14.27 | ZorbaBeta | oh man, I could have used that |
| 01:14.49 | Ivnedar_ | trying to get $ORIGIN through shells, configures, makes, libtool, etc is just a nightmare |
| 01:15.47 | ZorbaBeta | yeah |
| 01:19.41 | seebs | I have encountered some amazing things with $ORIGIN. |
| 01:19.50 | seebs | So, Zorba, which desk model did you get? |
| 01:20.18 | ZorbaBeta | seebs, Geekdesk - it's *quite* sturdy |
| 01:21.20 | seebs | Well, it's certainly a good $1-2k cheaper than some of the others. |
| 01:22.37 | ZorbaBeta | the reviews I found of the others indicated that they were maybe slightly better, but not in a way I considered meaningful |
| 01:22.44 | seebs | The review thing I read was all enthusastic about the nextdesk "terra", but I dislike their site -- it has very little direct "here is what differences we charge $900 for" comparison info. |
| 01:22.52 | ZorbaBeta | I saw reviews saying things like "well, it's a little prettier, and if you're going to sit at it for hours you want it to be pretty!" |
| 01:22.59 | ZorbaBeta | and, uh, no I don't, I'm looking at the monitor, not the desk :V |
| 01:23.21 | seebs | The terra pro appears to have four supports instead of two, I think that's their selling point. |
| 01:23.46 | ZorbaBeta | yeah . . . I mean, sure, but the geekdesk is rated for 325lbs |
| 01:23.48 | Ivnedar_ | in case you want to sit on the desk? |
| 01:23.53 | ZorbaBeta | and I didn't exceed that even when I had a 22" CRT |
| 01:23.58 | Ivnedar_ | or have a party on the desk |
| 01:24.08 | ZorbaBeta | seriously I could put my TV on this desk and it would be able to lift the thing |
| 01:24.11 | Imhothar1 | or have a renderfarm standing on your desk |
| 01:24.27 | ZorbaBeta | I'll admit I did put my UPS *under* the desk instead of *on* the desk, but it wasn't a big sacrifice |
| 01:28.46 | seebs | Hmm. Staring at it: Is it possible to take the frame apart any for moving it around? |
| 01:30.27 | seebs | Issue being that I need to move my office about twice a year due to weather. |
| 01:33.29 | ZorbaBeta | it is absolutely possible; it won't be easy |
| 01:33.42 | ZorbaBeta | well, it might be easier with some modifications |
| 01:34.08 | ZorbaBeta | it arrives flat-packed and you assemble it, but it's an assembly that's definitely a notch above ikea-quality. it's not *really* meant to come apart again, even though you could certainly disassemble it |
| 01:34.21 | seebs | I suppose what I could do is see whether, next spring, I am inclined to spend the money rather than get another one for the basement. |
| 01:34.25 | ZorbaBeta | the first thing you'd have to do would be to unscrew the desk top |
| 01:34.39 | seebs | Issue is, it's not remotely cost-effective to try to keep my office in the basement in winter, or upstairs in summer. |
| 01:34.54 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, you actually have weather, don't you :V |
| 01:36.00 | seebs | Yeah. We get weeks of -10 below (degrees F), and weeks of 90+. |
| 01:36.52 | seebs | So in winter our basement is barely-above-freezing, and in summer it's impractical to keep the upstairs cool if we actually run computers in it or anything. |
| 01:37.49 | Ivnedar_ | 40-100+ here |
| 01:38.27 | Ivnedar_ | coastal area sheltered by an escarpment |
| 01:38.37 | Ivnedar_ | so even on the hot days, there's usually an ocean breeze |
| 01:41.17 | seebs | I just went and looked. I started using my desk as a standing desk in October 2012. |
| 01:41.27 | seebs | So that's about long enough for me to feel reasonably confident that I'm going to keep using this. |
| 01:42.16 | Imhothar1 | I always have to remind myself you people talk Fahrenheit |
| 01:42.46 | seebs | It's okay, once it hits -40 no one cares. |
| 01:42.51 | ZorbaBeta | imhothar, it is so hot here that the oceans literally boil |
| 01:43.24 | seebs | I have some weatherstripping which says it will remain flexible to "-40F (-4.4C)". |
| 01:43.33 | Imhothar1 | sure it's not foam on waves? |
| 01:43.34 | seebs | Someone successfully realized that they had to convert 40F to C. |
| 01:43.38 | Ivnedar_ | I had to go convert from celsius so I fit in :D |
| 01:43.39 | seebs | And then added a minus sign. |
| 01:44.06 | ZorbaBeta | seebs, well . . . at least they tried? |
| 01:44.07 | Imhothar1 | oh i missed a not |
| 01:44.23 | seebs | Hmm. Trying to determine whether I care about the differences between the geekdesk and geekdesk max. |
| 01:44.56 | ZorbaBeta | I decided that my laziness overwhelmed me and I wanted the programmable presets |
| 01:45.25 | seebs | Interestingly, the max claims to be slightly slower. |
| 01:45.50 | ZorbaBeta | I think either it's built with higher torque for heavier loads, or the machinery required for the desk to "know" where it is makes it a bit slower |
| 01:46.17 | seebs | Hmm. Maybe. I note that the description says 1.1"/sec, but also 18-20mm/s, and they can't both be right. |
| 01:46.41 | ZorbaBeta | everything is faster in america |
| 01:46.51 | seebs | Heh. |
| 01:47.07 | seebs | Well, the v3 is 28-35mm/sec, the max is either 18-20 or 1.1", which is closer to 28ish. |
| 01:50.47 | ZorbaBeta | note that I've never really had an issue with adjustment speed |
| 01:51.31 | seebs | Yeah, not really expecting it to come up much. |
| 01:51.39 | Ivnedar_ | everything measured in inches is exaggerated :D |
| 01:52.39 | Imhothar1 | just don't trust the imperial numbers, problem solved |
| 01:52.45 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 01:53.04 | seebs | Well, hmm. |
| 01:53.47 | seebs | On the one hand, I'm not sure I should spend the money. On the other hand, my life is full of inconveniences closely tied to the need to switch desks all the time. |
| 01:53.57 | seebs | So it'd probably give me 5-10 minutes a day back minimum. |
| 01:54.11 | seebs | And after two years, I am pretty sure I like standing desks as a thing. |
| 01:54.18 | ZorbaBeta | are you swapping from standing desk to sitting desk, or some other form of swapping? |
| 01:54.28 | seebs | Yeah. I have one of each, but they're in different places. |
| 01:54.39 | ZorbaBeta | *nod* yeah, that's kinda annoying |
| 01:54.42 | seebs | So swapping in a single desk that I could use for everything would help. |
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| 02:29.50 | Repo | quest-finder: kekoas * r24 (3 files in 1 directory): (23) 0.2.1 Database update. |
| 02:31.56 | Noshei | damn almost 1 grand for that desk |
| 02:32.27 | Noshei | oh so it appears that open beta has started on the PTS |
| 02:46.46 | ZorbaBeta | yeah furniture ain't cheap |
| 02:47.50 | Noshei | *Good furniture ain't cheap |
| 02:49.01 | Noshei | though i guess cheap furniture is still pretty expensive, realatively. |
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| 05:37.06 | Noshei | http://forums.riftgame.com/technical-discussions/addons-macros-ui/438404-what-going-rift-addons.html#post4907360 |
| 05:37.30 | Noshei | I'm always amazed how technically challenged some people are with computers. |
| 05:42.14 | Ivnedar_ | sounds like that person thinks that addons come from trion |
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| 13:01.02 | Ivnedar_ | huh, interesting, the next content patch for wildstar reduces the client install size by 500mb |
| 13:01.10 | Ivnedar_ | that's unheard of! |
| 13:41.58 | NuSuey | Ivnedar_: lol there is new content for wildstar? that's unheard of! |
| 13:45.14 | Ivnedar_ | I didn't say that! |
| 13:45.16 | Ivnedar_ | :D |
| 13:45.50 | Ivnedar_ | ooer, second episode of Scorpion is out! |
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| 14:11.58 | seebs | I think PoE did a patch that reduced client install size once. |
| 14:13.07 | Ivnedar_ | Reduction in the size of vertex and index buffers. Reductionin the size of our terrain data (This change no only reduces our install size by ~500 megs, it will help performance on memory starved machines). |
| 15:30.24 | Noshei | seebs: you are correct, they did a big overhaul of their textures and reduced the install size a LOT |
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| 19:25.09 | Noshei | crashed twice in about 10 minutes on the pts in NT zones |
| 19:38.08 | Imhothar | interesting, EVE Online now gets official support for the file type of a community-made application |
| 20:18.36 | Noshei | gah, why do game news sites have to keep revamping their sites into crap |
| 20:18.59 | Imhothar | because they're desperate |
| 20:19.56 | Noshei | honestly just give me a gizmodo style site and I'm happy, though I do wish they would add endless scrolling |
| 20:20.22 | Noshei | so ah, windows 10! |
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