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| 10:31.35 | ZorbaBeta | why can't computer components just never break |
| 10:35.13 | Noshei | ZorbaBeta: something else break now? |
| 10:39.58 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, wife's computer had the graphics card go kaput |
| 10:40.30 | ZorbaBeta | I've got a truly ancient nvidia 8800 in there right now just to get it running for homework. will need to pick up a real replacement, though |
| 10:42.20 | Ivnedar | woah @ 3.0 ultimate nightmare edition |
| 10:44.39 | ZorbaBeta | the shark mount looks totally awesome |
| 10:48.59 | Ivnedar | wow, in game already |
| 10:49.48 | Ivnedar | you're making it hard to resist buying it now |
| 10:50.07 | ZorbaBeta | we do our best :D |
| 10:51.15 | Noshei | I'm tempted, but the lack of patron time kinda hurts it imo, even though I dont need patron time |
| 10:51.31 | Ivnedar | I saw the price, "$150?? There's no way I'm going to get that, what's in it anyway? Awh crap" |
| 10:51.51 | ZorbaBeta | yeah I think they're being very intentional with keeping them separate. You can always buy patron time with your credits if you want |
| 10:52.16 | Ivnedar | I half expected credits to be included with it |
| 10:52.16 | Noshei | but you dont get credits with the 3.0 packs either |
| 10:52.23 | Ivnedar | But I guess that's all part of another financial bit |
| 10:52.40 | ZorbaBeta | ah, you're right, you don't, I saw a misleading post first that said you did. Welp! Yep, totally split apart :) |
| 10:53.18 | Ivnedar | credits are the twisted domain of the bean counters |
| 10:54.08 | Ivnedar | that's a scary thought. eventual expansion where we go into the plane of beancounters |
| 11:49.34 | Ivnedar | woah, when did they make it so cheap to upgrade gear |
| 11:49.42 | Ivnedar | t2 epic -> relic used to be a planebreaker heart |
| 11:49.53 | Ivnedar | now it's a large marauder's cell |
| 11:50.11 | Ivnedar | time to upgrade *! |
| 12:01.11 | Noshei | Ivnedar: patch this week, or last week |
| 12:01.24 | Ivnedar | that would explain why I'm seeing shard firsts pop :) |
| 12:01.47 | Ivnedar | guessing the void accelerators aren't in game until 3.0? |
| 12:03.32 | Noshei | yes |
| 12:13.15 | Ivnedar | I love that I'm still using lvl 50 blazing tough runes |
| 12:13.16 | Ivnedar | did they ever add anything better? |
| 12:15.34 | Noshei | no clue, I haven't really played rift since like march |
| 12:17.37 | Ivnedar | ah, sounded like you were back :) |
| 12:21.16 | Noshei | maybe with the xpac, but I'm not sure |
| 12:28.10 | Ivnedar | oh, apparently the void accellerators are sent to you as soon as you buy the ces |
| 12:28.15 | Ivnedar | so you can upgrade t2 relics to t3 relics now if you want to pay the money |
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| 12:31.41 | Noshei | yes |
| 12:32.37 | Ivnedar | Noshei: did you see the loyalty figures for each ce? |
| 12:32.44 | Noshei | yes |
| 12:34.06 | Noshei | slightly more than you would get from buying and spending the same dollar amount of credits |
| 12:34.57 | Ivnedar | still reading through that thread :) |
| 12:35.31 | Noshei | not entirely sure I buy the miscommunication bit |
| 12:37.33 | Ivnedar | I do love how ocho/daglar responded :) |
| 12:38.16 | Imhothar | moar forum drama? |
| 12:40.21 | Noshei | Imhothar: kinda, more trion being a bit shaddy imo |
| 12:52.17 | Ivnedar | I wonder if the mobile app will get some love with the minion system |
| 12:53.44 | Imhothar | minion system? We get to order around people now? |
| 12:54.42 | Noshei | nope |
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| 20:43.11 | Noshei | ah damn it, I though trion was in san diago, not san francisco |
| 20:43.53 | Noshei | well that kinda sucks. I was in san fran all last week |
| 20:46.23 | Noshei | ZorbaBeta: you and/or trion have any issues from the earthquake 2 weeks ago? (I was in san fran for it) |
| 21:00.36 | ZorbaBeta | noshei, nah, stuff shook a little but overall it was pretty harmless |
| 21:01.08 | Noshei | I was on the 7th floor of the hotel I was in, so that was interesting |
| 21:01.15 | ZorbaBeta | hah, yeah, that sounds a bit more dramatic |
| 21:01.27 | Noshei | and it was a really old hotel as well |
| 21:01.35 | Noshei | so it shook pretty good |
| 21:01.51 | ZorbaBeta | the good news is that the building standards in this area tend to be pretty strict for exactly this reason |
| 21:01.58 | Noshei | yeah |
| 21:02.02 | seebs | ZorbaBeta: I would be super interested, BTW, in an API hook to let me relist-from-mail. Ideally one that doesn't require a UI event for every message, because bulk-posting is automatic. |
| 21:02.45 | ZorbaBeta | seebs, it may take a bit, I'm trying to squeeze some last performance improvements in right now. so, probably not 3.0 |
| 21:02.45 | Noshei | that would be really nice |
| 21:02.56 | seebs | Cool. |
| 21:03.11 | seebs | Oh, Zorba. |
| 21:03.19 | seebs | Did you see my comment about an accidental item dupe? |
| 21:03.36 | seebs | I don't think it's intentionally-reproducible, but I think that you might want to flag that particular bug report for Careful Study. |
| 21:03.52 | seebs | I may have generated an extra artifact with a market value of about 99g. |
| 21:05.07 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, gonna email it to someone :) rather odd if it's so uncommon, usually stuff like that gets discovered surprisingly quickly |
| 21:05.37 | seebs | It *appears* to be related to the very strange state where relist from email fails with "Error: free up some inventory space." |
| 21:05.54 | seebs | Also, I am pretty sure that it implies something that I would consider an example of database corruption. |
| 21:06.13 | seebs | Because there was an auction with a given character listed as having posted it, but which did not show up in that character's My Auctions. |
| 21:07.51 | Noshei | ZorbaBeta: is there some kind of dev overlay in dev builds? |
| 21:08.15 | Noshei | just saw something interesting on the stream that allowed them to free move the camera |
| 21:08.52 | ZorbaBeta | oh yeah, tons of it :) |
| 21:09.03 | ZorbaBeta | we have a dev overlay that lets you turn on and off various dev overlays. it's overlays all the way down |
| 21:09.15 | Noshei | lol |
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| 21:11.35 | Noshei | shudder, look at those blocky shadows on the stream! |
| 21:12.03 | ZorbaBeta | there's actually a big shadow improvement coming up soon, they may not be using it though :V |
| 21:13.45 | seebs | Oh, that reminds me. |
| 21:13.56 | Noshei | yeah I think they are on a beta server right now, so may not have some of your work. |
| 21:14.08 | seebs | I dunno if you saw previously, but: At one point, I mentioned I was getting ~24fps with shadows on, ~42fps with shadows off. You said you figured maybe 36fps in 2.8. |
| 21:14.21 | seebs | And the answer is 35-37 in similar situations with shadows on. |
| 21:14.51 | ZorbaBeta | yep, saw :) give it another try in 3.0, btw |
| 21:14.58 | ZorbaBeta | and there's also an option to increase shadow quality quite a bit |
| 21:15.07 | seebs | Oooh. |
| 21:15.21 | seebs | Well, 36ish is high enough that most of the time it looks-smooth to me. |
| 21:15.34 | seebs | I found a thing for comparing frame rates once. |
| 21:15.43 | seebs | Turns out that I can almost never tell 30 from 60. |
| 21:15.49 | seebs | And if I have a cold I can't reliably tell 15 from 30. |
| 21:16.26 | ZorbaBeta | okay, that's pretty funny |
| 21:16.50 | Noshei | you see what they did on the stream just now? |
| 21:17.01 | Noshei | cole made his character super small |
| 21:17.04 | ZorbaBeta | no, not watching atm |
| 21:17.22 | Imhothar1 | spent the entire week making Google Test work and report to Xcode (XCTest) and Eclipse/ADT (JUnit) |
| 21:17.25 | Imhothar1 | that was fun |
| 21:17.40 | Noshei | by super small I mean about 1/10th normal size (just my guess) |
| 21:43.11 | seebs | ... |
| 21:43.32 | seebs | I just saw a thing about a 2-drive failure on a RAID5 array that took out three computers and ALL their user data. |
| 21:43.57 | seebs | I am really glad I habitually keep my work checked in places, and that actual data gets backed up, because the net effect is probably marginal. |
| 21:44.13 | seebs | But wow, that's impressive. I did not know anyone was still running serious stuff on RAID5 without more than one spare. |
| 22:09.28 | ZorbaBeta | I do not understand why people refuse to make backups |
| 22:09.53 | Imhothar1 | backup backups |
| 22:10.03 | Imhothar1 | of backups |
| 22:10.38 | ZorbaBeta | even if you don't want to go to the trouble of an official backup system, at least toss something like crashplan up, networked to the other computers in the office. takes an hour or two of IT's time and might save your ass |
| 22:11.05 | Imhothar1 | honestly, Windows Backup and Time Machine make it way too easy to do basic backups |
| 22:11.33 | Imhothar1 | don't even have to do anything once its setup |
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| 23:13.55 | seebs | To be fair, I think all the lost data was on filesystems explicitly flagged Not Backed Up. |
| 23:31.31 | Noshei | so you can describe brazil as being in North Eastern South America, yay english for being so very descriptive! |
| 23:47.37 | Imhothar1 | I'm pretty sure that works in every language |
| 23:53.51 | Imhothar1 | I mean the confusing part |
| 23:58.14 | Noshei | ah fair enough, guess we just have to blame geographers for rather poor naming |