| 00:21.05 | Noshei | yay for pushing out a half finished product! |
| 00:21.39 | Ivnedar | It used to work so much better |
| 00:21.42 | Ivnedar | not sure what happened to it |
| 00:21.55 | Imhothar1 | management happened? |
| 00:21.55 | Ivnedar | when it first came out with Trove, it was great |
| 00:22.06 | Ivnedar | "Make it do x!" "Oooh, we also need it to do y" |
| 00:23.09 | Noshei | well I'm still amazed they are trying to say it was based on the rift launcher |
| 00:23.11 | Imhothar1 | btw for those who care: the UK banned Dungeon Keeper ads for misleading customers into thinking it could be sufficiently played without paying |
| 00:23.47 | Noshei | sure parts might have been frankensteined from the rift launcher, but it is obviously not built off the rift launcher |
| 00:25.41 | seebs | I am not sure how to define "based on" in that context. |
| 00:26.25 | Noshei | and right now I absolutely hate glyph. Its useability is horrid imo, and that is largely related to 2 very minor issues. First it doesn't remember its position when closed and second it doesn't close when I launch a game. |
| 00:27.14 | Noshei | seebs: I basically see it as someone saying that windows is based on unix, sure at some point it might have been and took some parts from it, but the end product is a completely different product |
| 00:32.27 | Imhothar1 | speculations ftw |
| 00:44.23 | Noshei | OMG they added location tracking, that was fast I only told them it would be a problem when glyph was first made available. |
| 00:52.56 | Noshei | wow 3rd time I have launched the rift patcher today and been asked to update |
| 00:55.46 | seebs | I have not yet tricked Glyph into noticing my existing Rift install. I found the instructions for telling it where to look, but it's not having any of that. |
| 00:57.47 | Ivnedar | you change game location to your current install and that's it I thought |
| 00:57.57 | Ivnedar | then delete what it'd downloaded so far in the default location |
| 01:02.16 | Noshei | oh yay, tomorrow is my friday! |
| 01:11.30 | seebs | So, that works for some people. For some, apparently, you then have to close Glyph, open its .cfg file, and change "Installed=false" to "Installed=true" for Rift. Which worked for me. |
| 01:12.08 | Ivnedar | I added mine back when it was out for trove only, maybe it's broken since |
| 01:13.15 | Noshei | http://gizmodo.com/googles-response-to-the-right-to-be-forgotten-is-just-1599344132 |
| 01:13.51 | Noshei | ^Google basically giving the EU the middle finger on their stupid "right to be forgotten" crap |
| 01:14.58 | Noshei | Basically when google gets a request to remove a search result, they send a notice to the site that the link has been removed from certain searched on EU versions of google |
| 01:15.19 | Imhothar1 | the ruling was pretty nonsensical anyway |
| 01:15.42 | Imhothar1 | the guy wanted to be removed from the web and now everyone knows who he is and what he did in the past |
| 01:16.02 | Imhothar1 | should have thought about that first |
| 01:16.14 | Noshei | yeah and on top of that it allows people with criminal history to hide that information from easy google searches |
| 01:16.15 | Ivnedar | It's the Streisand effect |
| 01:17.25 | Noshei | personally I like the idea of being able to google someones name and finding out they were convicted of rape |
| 01:17.57 | Noshei | and the fact that the EU has allowed that person to have that information removed from google searches is crazy |
| 01:19.10 | seebs | There's some really weird boundary cases with privacy issues. |
| 01:19.27 | seebs | I have a statistically unreasonable number of trans friends, and that really is an eye-opener for the importance of being able to make information hard to find. |
| 01:20.42 | Noshei | sure and I completely that there are certain cases where you have a legitimate reason to ask google to remove a search result, but the way the EU has done it is just stupid. |
| 01:22.14 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 01:22.29 | Imhothar1 | nobody expected the case to end like this tbh |
| 01:22.34 | seebs | It's a sort of logical consequence of their general "right to tell companies not to keep information on you". And honestly, I *like* that for nearly everybody. |
| 01:23.25 | seebs | I wish I could compel Blizzard to stop keeping around my old Blizzard email address and sending occasional spam to it, for instance. |
| 01:23.31 | seebs | AFK a bit. |
| 01:24.34 | Noshei | seebs: create a gmail account just for it and then change your blizzard account to go to it. |
| 01:24.45 | seebs | I can't. The account is permanently-zorched. |
| 01:24.55 | seebs | I did the "remove all my personal information from your systems" thing. |
| 01:25.14 | seebs | So there is *nothing* associated with that account. No password, no name, no CD keys, nothing whatsoever. Just an email address. |
| 01:25.35 | Noshei | ah, and no unsubscribe options on the emails you get from them? |
| 01:32.08 | seebs | I think there are, but then they add you to a new list later because they repopulate the list from their customer database. |
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| 02:37.45 | Noshei | glad to hear that they are at listening to users on what we want from glyph |
| 02:38.39 | Noshei | Aahz has already said they will be adding options to not have persistent login enabled as well as an option to close or minimize glyph after launching a game. |
| 02:47.22 | seebs | I sent him some notes in an email, and he responded with a suggested way to make a custom region that would override some of Glyph's behavior. If I can get a rift.exe argument to override rift.cfg, I can get my "two versions with different saved variables", I think. |
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