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| 02:10.52 | Noshei_ | yay, just killed the hardest (or second hardest) boss in PoE |
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| 09:24.42 | Imhothar____ | sooo... first 30 seconds of PoE |
| 09:24.52 | Imhothar____ | crashes when changing to windowed fullscreen... |
| 09:27.02 | Imhothar | dafuq... it puts the window in the working area (i.e. above taskbar dn next to chat client) but keeps the desktop resolution, so part of the game are offscreen |
| 09:28.04 | Imhothar | ok after 5 restarts it seems to understand what windowed fullscreen is supposed to look like |
| 09:36.10 | Imhothar | I wonder if Wraeclast and the whole Exile thing is a play on Australia |
| 09:43.38 | Imhothar | I hate the part where I have to choose a class... |
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| 09:58.17 | Wildtide | mornin' folks |
| 09:58.33 | Imhothar | mornin' folk |
| 09:58.38 | Wildtide | :D |
| 10:27.13 | Imhothar | the hell, I tried about 30 names for a PoE character and eveything's already taken |
| 10:27.34 | Imhothar | madness |
| 10:28.18 | Wildtide | PoE ? |
| 10:28.25 | Imhothar | Path of Exile |
| 10:28.29 | Wildtide | ahh |
| 10:33.49 | Imhothar | sigh where are the days when you didn't have to care about such nonsense in a single player game |
| 10:35.50 | Wildtide | yep. incredibly frsutrating when you can't play a single player game because a server is down |
| 10:35.58 | Wildtide | frustrating, too |
| 10:38.56 | Imhothar | well, I no longer feel like playing it... |
| 10:42.11 | ZorbaGama | given that GGG is an NZ company, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Wraeclast is a joking reference to Australia |
| 10:42.35 | Imhothar | and their character name policy sucks |
| 10:43.01 | Imhothar | or, let's say, shoving all characters into one big pot is just stupid |
| 10:43.12 | ZorbaGama | yeah they have some serious character namespace problems |
| 10:43.16 | Imhothar | it's single player for fucks sake |
| 10:43.27 | ZorbaGama | there's a big multiplayer component |
| 10:43.37 | ZorbaGama | the problem is that if you want multiplayer to work in a game like this, you have to force people to play online |
| 10:43.43 | Imhothar | Do it like Diablo and use the account name for identification |
| 10:44.02 | Imhothar | 2 chars with the same name, don't care |
| 10:44.30 | Imhothar | I think I'm past 40 tries now |
| 10:46.53 | Imhothar | You know, I'd really like to try this game but they're making it really hard right now. I usually can just hammer random syllables and get something on the 2nd/3rd try but this is getting out of hands now |
| 10:47.28 | Imhothar | And they don't accept accented characters to widen the possible combination |
| 10:47.33 | Imhothar | s |
| 10:47.53 | Imhothar | Given it's a European server accented characters are really all over the place |
| 10:48.09 | ZorbaGama | yeah you have to get kind of far out there to get a working name |
| 10:48.34 | ZorbaGama | note that "european server" isn't terribly meaningful, though - all characters exist in the same namespace and can group with each other. the server you connect to just determines where it tries to put your instances |
| 10:48.50 | Imhothar | great |
| 10:49.04 | Imhothar | so because English has no accents everyone is limited to ASCII |
| 10:49.05 | Imhothar | yay |
| 10:50.17 | ZorbaGama | yup, pretty much. |
| 10:50.23 | Imhothar | sigh |
| 10:50.52 | Imhothar | they really could have foreseen this as a problem |
| 11:04.25 | Imhothar | this is getting ridiculous |
| 11:05.09 | Imhothar | OMG |
| 11:05.20 | Imhothar | finally |
| 11:05.57 | Imhothar | Had to start dragging in Czech names and syllables so far from English I doubt anyone I'll play with can pronounce it |
| 11:12.51 | Imhothar | now, how to disable chat... |
| 11:13.27 | Imhothar | aaaand the noise is gone |
| 11:19.52 | Wildtide | lol, having fun there Imho? :) |
| 11:21.35 | Wildtide | well, i uploaded my first update to the Gadgets repo in ages, and no-one's posted yet saying i've broken it. maybe i remembered more than i thought |
| 11:23.04 | Wildtide | next thing i'm going to try is replacing masks with canvases, but i have a feeling the dynamic scaling might get really nasty |
| 11:26.43 | Imhothar | holy mo... now that's what I call a skill tree |
| 11:26.56 | Imhothar | or rather skill UCG |
| 11:27.09 | Imhothar | actually DCG |
| 11:46.43 | ZorbaGama | yeah the skill tree is pretty dang impressive |
| 11:47.11 | ZorbaGama | one of the things I like about GGG is that they come up with these crazy ideas that make me think "oh man, I do not know if they can make that work in terms of game design, that's going to be a nightmare" |
| 11:47.14 | ZorbaGama | and then they make it work |
| 11:47.21 | ZorbaGama | they do some really crazy innovative stuff |
| 11:57.36 | Imhothar | the game is pretty bad at telling you how to do stuff though |
| 11:57.55 | Imhothar | says I can upgrade a skill gem, but no clue how the hell to do that |
| 11:58.14 | Imhothar | hm nvm found it |
| 12:01.20 | Imhothar | it's interesting that there's no gold or other money thing |
| 12:01.45 | ZorbaGama | yeah, the currency items function as the tradable resource, but there's few fixed trade values; it's almost all player-driven |
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| 12:04.23 | Imhothar | the UI could use some improvement though |
| 12:04.44 | Imhothar | unless I'm missing something I have to drag and drop every item to the vendor/stash |
| 12:05.00 | Imhothar | that's really silly |
| 12:05.25 | ZorbaGama | there's a key combo - I think it's shift-click or control-click |
| 12:05.29 | ZorbaGama | it is not particularly documented |
| 12:05.55 | Imhothar | hmm I thought I tried ctrl. anyway that does it |
| 12:06.06 | Imhothar | but still, silly |
| 12:06.32 | Imhothar | right clicking witch open stash/vendor doesn't do anything so why not do it like the convenient way |
| 12:06.53 | ZorbaGama | it actually does - you can use it to apply currency items like identify scrolls |
| 12:07.23 | Imhothar | is it more frequent than selling/moving? |
| 12:07.47 | ZorbaGama | probably, yes, but . . . admittedly, not with the vendor window open |
| 12:07.54 | ZorbaGama | the stash is a more complicated subject however. In that case, maybe. |
| 12:08.05 | Imhothar | hrm |
| 12:08.10 | Imhothar | I'm not convinced yet |
| 12:08.32 | Imhothar | one could as well right-click unidentified items to apply a scroll |
| 12:08.34 | ZorbaGama | yeah, I'm not convinced either :V |
| 12:08.43 | Imhothar | can't do anything else with it anyway |
| 12:08.45 | Imhothar | oh well |
| 12:08.47 | ZorbaGama | the interface is servicable, and there are convenient key shortcuts that make it speedy once you learn it |
| 12:08.53 | ZorbaGama | but the key shortcuts aren't exactly intuitive |
| 12:09.04 | Imhothar | so far most of the UI isn't very intuitive |
| 12:09.37 | Imhothar | besides the obvious diablo/torchlight stuff but t really seems like a half-assed job |
| 12:11.40 | ZorbaGama | they spend basically all of their development effort on gameplay |
| 12:11.51 | ZorbaGama | the UI has been largely untouched since release |
| 12:13.45 | Imhothar | which imo is a mistake. the UI is at least as important as gameplay |
| 12:14.17 | ZorbaGama | if you could only convince the dwarf fortress developer of that :P |
| 12:17.30 | Imhothar | ok, so right clicking doesn't equip... what the hell is that key good for besides using scrolls |
| 12:17.31 | Imhothar | sigh |
| 12:18.04 | ZorbaGama | keep in mind there's about two dozen different currency item types - the currency items become a major part of gameplay |
| 12:18.11 | ZorbaGama | scrolls are the two least valuable currencies |
| 12:18.28 | Imhothar | doesn't explain why I can't right click a equippable item to equip it! |
| 12:18.37 | ZorbaGama | I thought you could, but maybe I'm misremembering |
| 12:18.57 | Imhothar | they're basically throwing everyone's UI expectations out the window |
| 12:20.05 | Imhothar | it's usually a bad idea to deviate from established UI paradigms |
| 12:30.31 | Imhothar | right, and when items combine the product won't stack with the existing stack |
| 12:30.48 | Imhothar | this game has a serious amount of inconveniences |
| 12:45.38 | Ivnedar | man, at first I was worried about the time limit mechanic in the latest final fantasy game |
| 12:45.43 | Ivnedar | now time is dragging on |
| 12:46.02 | Imhothar | Majora's Mask much? |
| 12:46.29 | Ivnedar | You start the game at the end of day 1 of 7 |
| 12:46.41 | Ivnedar | 1 minute of game time passes every ~3 seconds |
| 12:46.52 | Ivnedar | when you hit the end of day 7, game over |
| 12:47.11 | Ivnedar | and it's the size of a final fantasy game, so huge |
| 12:47.32 | Imhothar | yeah I saw some vids |
| 12:47.43 | Ivnedar | you soon gain the ability to free time for 10 mins of real time, at the cost of some "god power" |
| 12:47.53 | Ivnedar | which you need to kill mobs to regain |
| 12:48.31 | Ivnedar | doing side enough side quests in a day grants you a bonus day |
| 12:48.46 | Ivnedar | so I'm now up to day 10, 3 days remaining, not much left to do ... |
| 12:49.09 | Ivnedar | I could go to an inn and sleep for 3 days I guess :P |
| 12:49.35 | Ivnedar | oh, and mobs have a finite population in the world, once you've killed enough of a species, it's gone, no more random encounters from it |
| 12:49.45 | Ivnedar | do that to all the mob types in the zone and it's rather empty |
| 12:50.26 | Ivnedar | (which also means that there are no mobs to kill to refill god power) |
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