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| 02:50.23 | Noshei | it is amazing what you can do with 2 portals and gravity |
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| 07:03.11 | Ivnedar | I wonder if the new AH will require api changes |
| 08:31.55 | Zanderwar | what addons are you the author of Iv? |
| 08:32.00 | Zanderwar | Ivnedar* |
| 08:43.44 | Ivnedar | Resource Radar and Carnage Book |
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| 19:07.17 | ZorbaBeta | ivnedar, gonna try to ensure backwards compatibility, but it'll definitely require some changes to work properly |
| 19:12.20 | Noshei | ZorbaBeta: something changing? |
| 19:13.19 | ZorbaBeta | I'm actually not sure what's been announced yet, besides "changes", but . . . Yes! Things are changing. It's pretty cool. |
| 19:13.28 | ZorbaBeta | I hear they'll be giving the rundown on Twitch today |
| 19:13.32 | Noshei | on what? |
| 19:13.38 | ZorbaBeta | The auction house |
| 19:13.38 | Noshei | oh the AH stuff |
| 19:13.41 | ZorbaBeta | yeah |
| 19:13.54 | ZorbaBeta | hah, open twitch.com and it's a dude playing defiance |
| 19:13.58 | ZorbaBeta | thumbs up :3 |
| 19:25.17 | Imhothar1 | never tried defiance |
| 19:29.34 | ZorbaBeta | if you want a MMOFPS it's pretty fun. Free to play now, also. |
| 19:29.53 | Imhothar1 | you know, it'd be strange if you wouldn't advocate it ;) |
| 19:31.04 | Imhothar1 | I'm not a big FPS player, I don't mind it but I noticed lately that I tend to get simulator sickness form FPS |
| 19:31.24 | ZorbaBeta | if I thought it wasn't fun I actually wouldn't advocate it :V Doesn't do anyone good to recommend a game that sucks! |
| 19:31.37 | ZorbaBeta | I've been playing it quite a bit lately, the changes that went in with f2p fixed up a lot of UI friction |
| 19:31.42 | ZorbaBeta | especially the ones I worked on |
| 19:31.44 | ZorbaBeta | :D |
| 19:32.27 | Imhothar1 | hm the thing with MMOs is finding people to play with, or getting to know people in the game |
| 19:34.20 | ZorbaBeta | one thing defiance does rather well is that it deals well with the same type of public grouping that Rift's rifts encourage, so you don't really need to know people. That said, it doesn't really push people into doing group stuff like instances or pvp, so you'll spend most of your time playing mostly-solo in a shared world |
| 19:34.32 | ZorbaBeta | which has pros and cons |
| 20:28.36 | Noshei | I really didn't care much for defiance when I played it |
| 20:29.21 | Noshei | though I also tend to have hot and cold streaks for if I am into fps's. |
| 20:33.23 | ZorbaBeta | livestream's up, btw, and the UI artist is sitting in the room, so I assume she'll be demoing the new AH soon enough :) |
| 20:34.00 | ZorbaBeta | http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds |
| 20:35.28 | Imhothar1 | hmm I'm not even sure I remember how it looked before |
| 20:36.33 | Imhothar1 | is it accompanied with a new API? |
| 20:36.49 | ZorbaBeta | unless my plate gets unexpectedly totally full, yes |
| 20:37.03 | ZorbaBeta | although it'll mostly be an augment of the existing API, I'm going to try avoiding any backwards compatibility breakages |
| 20:38.49 | Noshei | nice daglar answered my question |
| 20:39.06 | ZorbaBeta | I didn't know the answer to that so I'm glad he did :V |
| 20:39.13 | Noshei | yeah |
| 20:39.22 | Imhothar1 | gotta talk to famous names ;) |
| 20:39.53 | Imhothar1 | interesting to see how the curves are being rendered |
| 20:40.15 | Imhothar1 | or are the pink rects actually information? |
| 20:40.31 | ZorbaBeta | I believe it's modeled off the eve online market; yes, everything visible there is information |
| 20:40.49 | ZorbaBeta | the pink rects are the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donchian_channel |
| 20:41.01 | Imhothar1 | ah… |
| 20:41.12 | ZorbaBeta | http://www.tentonhammer.com/image/view/89729 |
| 20:41.40 | Imhothar1 | oh I just noticed the legend |
| 20:43.36 | ZorbaBeta | hah, someone finally noticed the "buy orders" tab at the bottom :V |
| 20:44.45 | Imhothar1 | Wo, now I'll be waiting for the my big day when ImhoBags features make it into the game :p |
| 20:49.17 | Noshei | or my day when easymail features make it |
| 20:55.26 | Imhothar1 | ooh more work for EasyMail |
| 20:57.01 | Noshei | lol, not gonna happen anytime soon |
| 21:01.33 | Imhothar1 | the world needs more bars |
| 21:05.58 | Imhothar1 | when does the infamous ZorbaBeta get his face time on twitch to show off awesome rendering stuff? |
| 21:06.43 | ZorbaBeta | the problem is that the rendering stuff is all super-geeky and not easy to demonstrate :V |
| 21:07.35 | Noshei | thats ok though |
| 21:08.03 | Noshei | you could show the code! |
| 21:08.07 | Imhothar1 | ! |
| 21:08.43 | Imhothar1 | but why not make tech events talking about technical improvements/changes/nerd stats |
| 21:09.04 | Imhothar1 | I'm sure there's an audience for that |
| 21:19.21 | Imhothar1 | what's with this Josh York thing that it justifies a permaban? |
| 21:23.54 | Noshei | he gets a HUGE amount of hate from very vocal parts of the community |
| 21:24.04 | Noshei | espcially the raiding community |
| 21:24.06 | Imhothar1 | what did he do? |
| 21:24.21 | Imhothar1 | or what do people think he did? |
| 21:24.23 | Noshei | he does itemization |
| 21:24.36 | Imhothar1 | ooh can't touch dem itemz |
| 21:24.40 | Noshei | yeah |
| 21:25.18 | Noshei | and from what I understand he does pretty much all of the work by hand with very few sanity checks in the game to ensure things dont get mixed up |
| 21:25.38 | Imhothar1 | that's very suspicious |
| 21:26.30 | Noshei | there was one guy in one of my old guilds that absolutely hated josh york. To the point that I would be worried if they met IRL. |
| 21:27.15 | Imhothar1 | that's some dedication to the game |
| 21:27.42 | Noshei | or just some fucked up people |
| 21:28.30 | Imhothar1 | I think the one leads to the other. And I'll leave the order unspecified |
| 21:30.58 | Noshei | lol |
| 21:32.01 | Noshei | so I wonder how broken bananAH is going to be with 2.8 |
| 21:32.10 | Imhothar1 | hmm just reminds me, when's your next coding stream ZorbaBeta? |
| 21:33.18 | ZorbaBeta | lately I've been trying to work on the frames library to get it functional with UE4 |
| 21:33.26 | ZorbaBeta | which isn't really conducive for coding streams :/ |
| 21:33.49 | ZorbaBeta | although if anyone wants to read some super-exciting documentation, http://www.framesui.com/docs/test/ |
| 21:34.49 | Noshei | so they gave away 365 troves at the end of the stream |
| 21:34.56 | Noshei | to 1 person |
| 21:35.43 | Imhothar1 | sigh I'm too old for all this Rift slang |
| 21:37.49 | Noshei | the boxes you can buy from the store that have a chance at all sorts of different stuff |
| 21:38.04 | Imhothar1 | well that will take some time opening them all |
| 21:39.44 | Noshei | yeah |
| 21:40.04 | Noshei | someone suggested it, since yesterday was 1 year of f2p |
| 21:40.26 | Noshei | and daglar was like, well wtf why not! |
| 21:40.41 | Noshei | ^his exact words. |
| 22:06.07 | Noshei | so sad that syfy decided to change away from offering their shows for free online |
| 22:12.37 | Noshei | so thoughts on tesla giving free access to all its patents? |
| 22:13.02 | Imhothar1 | interesting |
| 22:13.31 | Imhothar1 | I work closely with Audi and they do their own EV stuff, so will see how that's received there |
| 22:14.30 | Imhothar1 | but it'll probably take a while before that has any effect |
| 22:14.47 | Noshei | yeah |
| 22:15.16 | Noshei | It is a pretty bold move and hopefully it will help make EV's cheaper and more widely available |
| 22:15.46 | Imhothar1 | yeah, but unless we can produce the electricity wihtout burning stuff it only shifts the problem from one industry to another |
| 22:16.09 | Noshei | well |
| 22:16.26 | Noshei | nuclear |
| 22:16.35 | Imhothar1 | not a long term solution |
| 22:16.51 | Imhothar1 | and too many risks |
| 22:18.02 | Noshei | well fission, maybe. But if they can get fusion working it could be very useful |
| 22:18.03 | Imhothar1 | just you wait till a plant blows up in the US |
| 22:18.19 | ZorbaBeta | you mean like three mile island, with estimated zero casualties? :V |
| 22:18.21 | Imhothar1 | yeah, but didn't the US leave ITER? |
| 22:19.07 | Noshei | who ever decided to name the 2 different types of nuclear reactions so similar needs to be kicked in the shins |
| 22:19.13 | Imhothar1 | ah no they're still in it |
| 22:19.38 | Imhothar1 | well, that's an English problem only ;) |
| 22:20.01 | Noshei | fusion has a lot of potential, but still need to be made vialble |
| 22:20.26 | Imhothar1 | that's what ITER is doing |
| 22:21.08 | Noshei | ah |
| 22:21.33 | Imhothar1 | or at least trying |
| 22:21.44 | Imhothar1 | they're building a prototype reactor in France |
| 22:21.46 | Noshei | fission has a lot of potnetial as well, but we need to find better ways to deal with the waste |
| 22:22.36 | Imhothar1 | though both terms, fission and fusion, describe pretty perfectly what's happening |
| 22:23.30 | Imhothar1 | fusion is only gonna be able to replace fission if we manage to get H -> He in there |
| 22:25.17 | Imhothar1 | otherwise the energy curve is too low to make the reaction self sustaining |
| 22:26.21 | Noshei | wow chile is kicking australia's butt |
| 22:27.50 | Noshei | 2-0 chile since 14' |
| 22:28.07 | Imhothar1 | worst part in all of that are the idiots who have no idea how nuclear physics works and are shouting "apocalypse" all over the place |
| 22:28.10 | Noshei | only 26' in right now though, so still lots of time left |
| 22:28.27 | Imhothar1 | just like the black hole nonsense at LHC |
| 22:28.28 | Noshei | Imhothar1: yeah that and the politics are huge issues |
| 22:30.30 | Noshei | it is funny that the world cup is online for free on univision, but you have to pay to view it on espn |
| 22:33.18 | ZorbaBeta | I hear soccer broadcast licensing is an absolute legal nightmare |
| 22:33.31 | ZorbaBeta | just too many organizations in too many countries all involved in the negotiation |
| 22:33.42 | Imhothar1 | you're not allowed to use the term "Brazil 2014" as it's licensed by FIFA |
| 22:34.11 | Imhothar1 | like many other everyday terms |
| 22:34.14 | Imhothar1 | really silly |
| 22:34.28 | Noshei | yeah |
| 22:34.41 | Noshei | well FIFA can go diaf |
| 22:35.24 | Noshei | FIFA is a horrible organization |
| 22:36.01 | Noshei | that was a nice goal! |
| 22:43.51 | Imhothar1 | not watching |
| 22:44.19 | Imhothar1 | probably won't watch unless Germany or Czech make it into the semifinals or so |
| 22:48.17 | Noshei | they gave the refs some kinda of spray paint to make the 10m for free kicks |
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| 22:53.35 | Imhothar1 | sure you didn't mean 11 yards? ;) |
| 23:01.03 | Noshei | Imhothar1: IM SURE i MEANT 10M |
| 23:01.07 | Noshei | oops |
| 23:01.17 | Imhothar1 | heh |
| 23:01.22 | Noshei | I used to be a soccer/footbal ref |
| 23:01.58 | Imhothar1 | I know, it was just an attempt at an imperial/metric joke |
| 23:02.09 | Noshei | oh yes I got it |
| 23:07.26 | Imhothar1 | well it seems FIFA is now trying to set a mark by suspending some people related to the Qatar thing |
| 23:07.54 | Noshei | they shouldn't even be having hte games there |
| 23:08.03 | Imhothar1 | of course not |
| 23:08.55 | Imhothar1 | what's strange though is: we get reports about all those construction workers getting killed, but reporters who actually are in Qatar tell you construction of anything World Cup related hasn't even started yet |
| 23:10.35 | Imhothar1 | which of course doesn't mean they aren't treated badly, though the relation to the WCS might be a bit off |
| 23:12.44 | Noshei | I love seeing offsides called correctly |
| 23:13.49 | Noshei | it can be very difficult to call, considering that you have to track 3 differnet things that can be rather far a part to call it. |
| 23:14.07 | Imhothar1 | that's why there are assistants |
| 23:15.02 | Noshei | yeah, offisides is pretty much all the assistances call and it is still a rifficult call to make |
| 23:15.24 | Noshei | the assistant has to be tracking 3 different things and has about a second to make the call |
| 23:15.39 | Imhothar1 | that's what he's trained for |
| 23:15.54 | Noshei | kinda |
| 23:16.21 | Noshei | an assistant is really no different that the ref as far as training and knowledge go |
| 23:17.19 | Noshei | and the assistants are also doing more than just offsides |
| 23:20.01 | Noshei | omg |
| 23:20.09 | Noshei | wow |