| 04:15.05 | Zanderwar | how's everyones day my party people |
| 04:16.03 | Zanderwar | it' |
| 04:16.18 | Zanderwar | it's against TOS to store compressed data in SavedVariables isnt it? |
| 04:25.49 | Ivnedar | don't believe so |
| 05:23.59 | seebs | Why would it be? |
| 05:24.12 | Ivnedar | obfuscation of data I guess |
| 05:24.29 | seebs | I am not even sure there's a problem with obfuscating data, just obfuscating code. |
| 05:24.32 | Ivnedar | it's against TOS to do that in addon code if the intent is to make it so users have to pay for access to it |
| 05:24.35 | Ivnedar | like they did in some wow addons |
| 05:24.40 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 05:25.10 | Ivnedar | savedvariables aren't meant to be human readable/editable, that's just a nice bonus ZorbaBeta gave us :) |
| 05:25.18 | Ivnedar | they're there for addons to read in |
| 05:25.54 | seebs | Early on we had this guy who was totally convinced he could beat the system and prevent Trion from stopping him from running obfuscated code. |
| 05:26.05 | seebs | Which, it turns out, is probably not true, and certainly not useful. |
| 05:33.45 | ZorbaBeta | obfuscation is pretty much there to prevent people from doing malicious things. if your goal isn't to sneak something past Trion, or past people reading your code, you're probably fine |
| 05:35.31 | ZorbaBeta | that said, if you wanted to be super-safe, you can "un-obfuscate" things by just writing a comment explaining how to decode it :V |
| 06:27.32 | Noshei | Zanderwar: I've actually be compressing the SavedVariables file in EasyMail for a while now. BananAH also does the same thing. We both do it for the practical use of making them smaller. |
| 06:28.18 | Noshei | it does add a bit extra complexity to loading and saving them, but it is rather easy to see it in the code and know what is happening. |
| 08:16.16 | Noshei | hey Ivnedar you around? |
| 08:23.18 | Ivnedar | yup |
| 08:24.36 | Noshei | any chance you could help me kill a guy in wildstar? |
| 08:25.26 | Ivnedar | I'll log in |
| 08:25.44 | Torhal | Oh, man. IRC murder conspiracies. |
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| 09:48.58 | Ivnedar | Noshei: awesome bug on the first raid attunement mini boss |
| 09:49.15 | Ivnedar | if any engineer is within range of him, he goes ballistic, covering the platform in fire, killing everyone |
| 09:49.32 | Noshei | lol, nice |
| 09:50.07 | Ivnedar | so I can't even start on the raid attunement, works for me :) |
| 09:51.22 | Imhothar | http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=835913 |
| 09:51.40 | Imhothar | competence looks different |
| 09:55.29 | Ivnedar | oh wow |
| 09:56.10 | Imhothar | did anyone watch TotalBiscuits take on NFS Rivals? |
| 09:56.19 | Imhothar | the game is locked at 30fps |
| 09:56.31 | Imhothar | setting it to 60 in the config files makes the game run twice as fast |
| 09:56.36 | Ivnedar | lol |
| 09:56.58 | Imhothar | but the menus and UI and everything works fine |
| 09:57.05 | Imhothar | only the racing game itself is bonkers |
| 09:57.21 | Ivnedar | does it run slower if you cap it at 15? |
| 09:57.25 | Imhothar | dunno |
| 09:57.42 | Imhothar | but he also tried 120fps and it was just impossible |
| 09:58.22 | Imhothar | they must have hardcoded a 1/30 simulation step per frame |
| 09:58.43 | Imhothar | throwing all best practices of game engineering out the window |
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| 11:26.43 | Noshei | uber kill!!! |
| 11:56.30 | Ivnedar | grats! :) |
| 12:14.47 | Noshei | lol, not sure what I was expecting, but it was not for that to be called uber kill |
| 12:50.24 | Ivnedar | it does kill chaining |
| 12:50.31 | Ivnedar | you get more xp for chain kills |
| 12:50.41 | Ivnedar | and getting to certain numbers gives accolades like that |
| 13:46.49 | Noshei | oh yeah I figured that all out |
| 15:05.46 | Imhothar1 | https://twitter.com/_laurennewsome/status/477053091872014336/photo/1 |
| 15:27.24 | Noshei | Imhothar1: not a damn thing wrong with that! |
| 15:27.56 | Imhothar1 | with or without the enthusiasm of the original recitation? |
| 15:28.04 | Noshei | sadly im in the minority of americans that actually enjoy real football |
| 15:28.20 | Imhothar1 | you play it? |
| 15:28.36 | Noshei | a littlw when I was younger, but I was bad |
| 15:28.50 | Noshei | I was a ref when I was a teenager though |
| 15:30.31 | Noshei | http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/06/12/world-of-tanks-introduces-world-football-championship-game-mode/ |
| 15:45.59 | Noshei | you guys hear about the XSS vulnerability on tweetdeck? |
| 15:46.24 | Noshei | someone was able to use it to create an auto retweeting tweet |
| 16:15.16 | ZorbaBeta | fixed steps are pretty common for console games, especially those aimed at a solid 30fps |
| 16:15.26 | ZorbaBeta | it's a lot easier to code |
| 16:15.33 | ZorbaBeta | and a lot easier to debug, honestly |
| 16:15.51 | Imhothar1 | ergo lazy |
| 16:16.01 | ZorbaBeta | well, sure. the entire game industry is lazy. we don't have time not to be :P |
| 16:16.34 | Imhothar1 | running your simulation at a fixed rate or only every X frames when 30ms have passed isn't *that* difficult |
| 16:16.51 | ZorbaBeta | if you run it only every X frames, then you may as well just run it at 30hz |
| 16:17.03 | ZorbaBeta | no reason to render extra frames when nothing is different |
| 16:17.15 | Imhothar1 | interpolation |
| 16:17.22 | Imhothar1 | you can see the difference at 60fps |
| 16:17.24 | ZorbaBeta | extra engineering time, bugs |
| 16:17.49 | ZorbaBeta | sure, you *can* - the question is whether it's worth the engineering time. The profit margin in this industry is not exactly huge. :( |
| 16:17.52 | Imhothar1 | whether you render at 60 and simulate at 30 or render and simulate at 60 is a noticable difference |
| 16:20.30 | Imhothar1 | besides, it's really only physics simulation that needs to (or should) run at a fixed rate. as long as your simulation rate is fixed the framerate can differ (ignoring the fact that varying framerates look worse for now) |
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| 22:14.22 | Noshei | http://gizmodo.com/a-perpetual-slinky-treadmill-might-be-humanitys-greates-1590139758 |
| 22:14.45 | Noshei | omg they created a kickstarted for this retarded and useless product |
| 22:15.09 | Imhothar1 | this is gonna get annoying really quickly |
| 22:15.19 | Noshei | lol |
| 22:16.25 | Noshei | 40 euro for that shit |
| 22:16.41 | Noshei | you could build it for probably 20 |
| 22:16.55 | Imhothar1 | 9 prototypes for only $999 |
| 22:17.43 | Imhothar1 | $37 backed in average |
| 22:18.15 | Noshei | 1 person gave them $999 already, wtf is wrong with people |
| 22:19.44 | Imhothar1 | oh wait that's all in punds |
| 22:19.57 | Imhothar1 | wtf is wrong with people |
| 22:22.42 | Noshei | so that brazil v croatia, that happened |