| 01:13.27 | Noshei | not sure if I like the whole lua + xml thing that wildstar has for addons |
| 01:14.18 | Ivnedar | It's taking me a lot to get my head around it |
| 01:14.30 | Ivnedar | But that may be due to the almost complete lack of documentation in any sensible format :P |
| 01:14.42 | Noshei | also not a big fan of the whole "if you use houston to create addons carbine owns all rights to it" |
| 01:14.45 | Ivnedar | I'm making fix addons for a lot of the bugs in the built in ui |
| 01:15.11 | Noshei | *it being the addon you created |
| 01:15.23 | Ivnedar | mine are bug fixes for their code, so I don't care too much :P |
| 01:15.34 | Ivnedar | If I write a standalone one, maybe I'll care more |
| 01:16.42 | Ivnedar | I'm also submitting gm tickets with the fixes in them, so maybe they'll get fixed properly |
| 01:17.00 | Ivnedar | the costume bug was amusing |
| 01:17.42 | Ivnedar | they have a function that sets the current state of the costume whenever your inventory updates |
| 01:17.54 | Ivnedar | they also trigger that function when you drag an item into a costume slot |
| 01:18.22 | Ivnedar | the issue is, adding an item to a costume slot triggers an inventory change with a state of that item not in the costume |
| 01:18.43 | Ivnedar | so it adds the item, triggers a change, removes it, which triggers an inventory update, this time with the costume item equipped |
| 01:18.47 | Ivnedar | and cycles |
| 01:19.23 | Noshei | lol |
| 01:19.27 | Ivnedar | remove the explicit function call after equipping the item and life is good |
| 01:20.17 | Ivnedar | It is kinda amusing to see people standing around the costume npc with flickering gear :D |
| 01:21.45 | Ivnedar | they also changed how the achievement data is stored in the ui tree, used to just be the string of the achievement category id of that node, now it's the userdata object for the achievement |
| 01:22.04 | Ivnedar | but they're still doing a string compare against the one they're looking for when you click on a recent achievement |
| 01:22.47 | Ivnedar | Downside of being able to see and replace code, is that's where all my time is spent now :D |
| 01:23.07 | Ivnedar | ChatLog I've changed the printf output of the guild/officers stuff as it annoyed me and the rest of the guild |
| 01:23.54 | Ivnedar | light yellow/green text with [Database Database - c1]: .... |
| 01:23.55 | Ivnedar | vs |
| 01:24.13 | Ivnedar | green text with [Database Database]: ... |
| 01:24.15 | Ivnedar | vs |
| 01:24.21 | Ivnedar | light green text with [Database Database]: ... |
| 01:24.32 | Ivnedar | first one is circle chat, second one is guild chat, third one is officer chat |
| 01:24.51 | Ivnedar | people are trying to have conversations with each other and responding in the wrong place |
| 01:25.07 | Ivnedar | so now it's [Guild]: ... and [Officer]: ... |
| 01:25.08 | Ivnedar | :P |
| 01:25.11 | Ivnedar | </spam> |
| 01:27.17 | Ivnedar | Working on a "report gold spam" addon at the moment, hopefully someone else will beat me to it |
| 01:34.24 | Noshei | what server are you on Ivnedar, and faction? |
| 01:35.41 | Ivnedar | Myrcalus, Dominion |
| 01:35.49 | Ivnedar | Name there is Pippit :) |
| 01:36.08 | Ivnedar | tried any Veteran dungeons yet? |
| 01:36.52 | Noshei | just started playing it today, only levell 9 |
| 01:37.05 | Ivnedar | what server/faction ? |
| 01:37.10 | Ivnedar | race/class/path/etc :P |
| 01:37.22 | Noshei | avatus exile |
| 01:37.29 | Ivnedar | ewwww, exile |
| 01:37.58 | Noshei | human spellslinger scientist |
| 01:38.19 | Noshei | I tried out dom and didn't really like the feel and the npc's |
| 01:38.39 | Ivnedar | fair enough :) |
| 01:39.49 | Noshei | what class, etc are you? |
| 01:39.53 | Ivnedar | chua/engineer/scientist |
| 01:40.32 | Noshei | engineer was one I was thinking about trying |
| 01:40.39 | Ivnedar | It's crazy OP |
| 01:40.53 | Noshei | yeah kinda looks that way |
| 01:40.55 | Ivnedar | avoid melee classes if you want to keep your sanity |
| 01:41.26 | Noshei | so stalker and warrior |
| 01:41.44 | Ivnedar | and medic to a degree |
| 01:42.02 | Noshei | yeah |
| 01:42.21 | Ivnedar | dungeons/raids are very melee unfriendly, with no benefits like the usual increased dps |
| 01:42.28 | Noshei | well the 3 I was looking at were spellslinger, esper, and engineer |
| 01:42.29 | Ivnedar | That may change though :) |
| 01:42.43 | Noshei | what is the max level? |
| 01:42.49 | Ivnedar | I went engineer because I solo a lot of content, so it was nice to have a party wherever I go |
| 01:42.52 | Ivnedar | 50 |
| 01:43.13 | Noshei | I might just say screw it and start over with engineer |
| 01:43.16 | Ivnedar | Once you hit 50, xp goes to elder points, every 75k gives you an elder gem, cap of 140 gems/week |
| 01:43.31 | Ivnedar | engineer is dps/tank |
| 01:43.35 | Noshei | yeah |
| 01:43.36 | Ivnedar | spellslinger is dps/healer |
| 01:43.54 | Ivnedar | in the end, it comes down to how you like playing, as to which class to go with |
| 01:45.31 | Ivnedar | the mechanics in the equivalent to expert dungeons are crazy |
| 01:46.04 | Ivnedar | after 4 hours last night, we'd downed the first boss in veteran stl and had some decent attempts at the second boss |
| 01:46.29 | Ivnedar | solo'd the last 40% of the first boss, since in the final phase, there's no tank requirement, and all damage is from standing in the wrong place |
| 01:47.10 | Ivnedar | boss is doing cross of lightning, 4 circles of lightning orbs going around him at different distances and directions, and pulses coming out of the boss with 4 safe spots in the room |
| 01:47.30 | Ivnedar | pulses are every 5-10s or so, with 1-2s reaction time allowed |
| 01:47.37 | Ivnedar | looks pretty awesome :) |
| 01:48.50 | Noshei | nice |
| 01:48.53 | Ivnedar | Because of the telegraph system, they're able to make things a lot more complicated |
| 01:48.59 | Ivnedar | since you have no excuse to be standing in stuff |
| 01:49.15 | Noshei | omg the background sound thing is annoying |
| 01:49.45 | Ivnedar | the client playing sound even when not focussed? |
| 01:49.51 | Noshei | yeah |
| 01:50.09 | Ivnedar | write an addon to change volume when not focussed! |
| 01:50.37 | Ivnedar | assuming you can find the event tied to losing focus |
| 01:51.53 | Noshei | if there is one |
| 01:52.48 | Noshei | is there a way to skip the tutorial area? |
| 01:52.59 | Ivnedar | don't believe so |
| 01:53.35 | Ivnedar | sprint as much as possible, click through dialog and hi escape through cutscenes was as much as I could speed it up |
| 01:54.26 | Noshei | love the double jump |
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| 02:13.57 | Noshei | Ivnedar: you know the difference of the last quest you get in the starter area (on the ship) when you get to leave to go one of 2 places |
| 02:14.03 | Noshei | is there a difference? |
| 02:39.05 | Ivnedar | yeah, two parallel starting zones after the tute area |
| 02:39.08 | Ivnedar | different quests, zones, etc |
| 02:39.24 | Ivnedar | think of it like chosing to start in pelladane or cape jule |
| 02:39.28 | Noshei | wasn't sure if there was some advantage to one over the other |
| 02:39.29 | Ivnedar | choosing even |
| 02:39.35 | Ivnedar | not really |
| 02:39.55 | Ivnedar | I haven't done any exile stuff, so I can only go off the dominion version of it |
| 02:40.10 | Noshei | well i started a dom character again |
| 02:40.13 | Ivnedar | the two zone paths join up after 2 zones |
| 02:43.15 | Ivnedar | then you start joining up with dominion players when you hit whitevale after that |
| 02:50.47 | Noshei | now, which amp for engineer |
| 02:51.16 | Ivnedar | all of them! :D |
| 02:53.37 | Ivnedar | I went down the assault power, then cooldown reduction, then more assault |
| 02:53.51 | Ivnedar | keep ramping up the damage as you go |
| 02:54.02 | Ivnedar | use the tank bot aoe taunt on cooldown to keep them off you |
| 02:54.56 | Ivnedar | (when you get it, which is pretty early on) |
| 02:56.24 | Noshei | like level 4 or 5 |
| 02:56.32 | Noshei | at 6 I got a second pet |
| 02:59.57 | Ivnedar | I'm surprised how much fun the action part of the game is |
| 03:00.02 | Ivnedar | dodging out of telegraphs |
| 03:16.34 | Noshei | yeah |
| 03:21.24 | Noshei | bloodfire needs more quests in this one village |
| 03:21.56 | Ivnedar | zenradar is a rather handy addon |
| 03:22.08 | Noshei | whys that? |
| 03:22.19 | Ivnedar | filterable display of where things are, as told to it by the map data |
| 03:22.35 | Ivnedar | so it'll tell you when datacubes are nearby, lore items, new quests, scientist scan things |
| 03:22.45 | Ivnedar | since the in game indicators are so dodgy |
| 03:23.13 | Ivnedar | unless you enjoy scouring every inch of game map, looking behind rocks, etc, in case there's something there |
| 03:23.35 | Ivnedar | if you just want to get to max level and start doing dungeon/raid stuff, then not so needed |
| 03:24.33 | Ivnedar | the attunement process for the first raid is pretty epic |
| 03:29.53 | Ivnedar | http://i.imgur.com/NaNBVbE.jpg |
| 03:30.07 | Ivnedar | there's how to attune yourself to the raid :D |
| 03:31.20 | Ivnedar | It'll be fun getting everyone to do it |
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| 04:25.13 | Ivnedar | kinda amused by the friendpass stuff with wildstar |
| 04:25.21 | Ivnedar | you're responsible for the actions of the people you invite |
| 04:25.37 | Ivnedar | so if they do something bad, your account may be affected |
| 04:26.01 | Ivnedar | I guess that covers them against people selling guest passes to gold farmers |
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| 07:06.09 | Zand|zzz | hey anyone know if you can connect to a .php page with Lua curl in RIFT? |
| 07:16.28 | Zanderwar | ZorbaBetam hooray for receiving local messages from people in faeblight while im on wolfsbane o.O |
| 07:23.53 | Zanderwar | wtf did i somehow achieve premium status on curse from making addons o.O |
| 07:31.13 | Zanderwar | I did, complimentary :D tyyyyyyy Torhal |
| 08:28.49 | Ivnedar | Zanderwar: you can't |
| 08:29.09 | Ivnedar | connect to something external that is |
| 08:33.43 | Zanderwar | :( |
| 10:13.23 | Zanderwar | must..disable..trion dev tools.. keep crashing :o |
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| 21:25.18 | Noshei | wow I just noticed that wildstar either doen't have any active / background detection or they were just lazy and didn't add in any performance drops when the game is in the background |
| 21:26.09 | Imhothar | not really a very high priority if you ask me |
| 21:26.42 | Noshei | no, but it is something that is pretty much a standard in pc games |
| 21:26.54 | Imhothar | haha, certainly not |
| 21:27.14 | Noshei | as close to a standard as you will see in pc games |
| 21:27.49 | Imhothar | really, I'm sorry to disappoint, but the number of games that do slowdown in the background is low |
| 21:28.06 | Imhothar | most of the time you can be happy if they at least pause the game |
| 21:32.56 | Imhothar1 | which could be considered a slowdown if the gameplay stops |
| 21:33.37 | Imhothar1 | still, the number of games that do anything like that is very low. AAA games are most of the time arrogant enough to assume you use the PC exclusively for their game and don't bother |
| 21:36.25 | Imhothar1 | same with other things one would assume are "standard" on a PC, like FoV settings. Still few games bother |
