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| 05:11.37 | Amadeus- | hey ZorbaTHut, do you have the ability to add us to closed beta invites for Rift 3.0? :) ...or, is that much more restricted than was archeage and Trove? |
| 05:11.48 | Amadeus- | (question comes after reading http://forums.riftgame.com/general-discussions/general-discussion/425971-q-rift-game-director-bill-daglar-fisher.html) |
| 05:13.07 | Amadeus- | although ..to be honest..I guess I don't know why I need to be in beta if it's just quests ....be more fun to do it all initially when it's released. I really only enjoy betas if it's mechanics changes (or new mechanics) ...content updates don't really excite me as much. |
| 05:29.20 | Ivnedar | the mechanic change stuff is coming this week, with the new souls? |
| 05:29.37 | Ivnedar | not sure what mechanic changes there'd be with 3.0 |
| 05:29.44 | Ivnedar | unless we're getting the underwater plane stuff |
| 05:29.52 | Ivnedar | aquatic combat/mounts/etc maybe? |
| 05:31.56 | Amadeus- | yea |
| 05:32.14 | Amadeus- | that's what I meant ...after I asked about beta, I realized I probably wouldn't do much with it ..hehe. Unless there was new mechanics :) |
| 05:32.15 | Ivnedar | I still don't know if I'll bother buying the new souls |
| 05:32.30 | Ivnedar | which makes me sad :( |
| 05:32.31 | Amadeus- | warrior' |
| 05:32.38 | Amadeus- | warrior's new soul is support or heals? |
| 05:32.41 | Ivnedar | heal |
| 05:32.45 | Amadeus- | it's no good? |
| 05:33.03 | Amadeus- | I like the rogue Physician primarily as a secondary soul for my 61 bard spec |
| 05:33.25 | Amadeus- | but...even 61 physician is kindof cool ...I definately could see myself solo healing experts and pocket healing in warfronts |
| 05:33.26 | Amadeus- | brb |
| 05:33.40 | Ivnedar | there are some rather broken hybrids, and the people driving the soul directions from the community side ignore anyone's opinions but their own |
| 05:38.18 | Amadeus- | lol ...warrior is broken anyway ...in pvp the uber warriors in warfronts are like super heroes |
| 05:38.44 | Amadeus- | 50-60k hps, hit like a truck, and have crazy mitigation |
| 05:40.20 | Ivnedar | there was an amusing warrior hybrid that was doing ~80% of the dps of a 61 point dps spec and ~80% of the hps of a 61 point hps spec, all on a one button macro |
| 05:40.28 | Ivnedar | probably still exists |
| 05:40.45 | Ivnedar | the healing builders trigger the dps builder followups |
| 05:41.03 | Ivnedar | so for every gcd, you're doing a big heal and a big followup |
| 05:41.08 | Ivnedar | hps/dps |
| 05:41.28 | Ivnedar | and the finishers you wanted to use had cooldowns, so they get tossed in the macro to fire as needed too |
| 05:41.38 | Ivnedar | made it so boring to play |
| 05:41.45 | Amadeus- | yea, rogue "sab" is a one-button spec |
| 05:41.55 | Amadeus- | I mean, literally ...one button |
| 05:42.20 | Amadeus- | but, we don't have any single target specs like that |
| 05:42.30 | Amadeus- | rogue assassin/nb is fairly compelx |
| 05:42.36 | Amadeus- | to be good |
| 05:43.40 | Ivnedar | the heals in this spec are aoe splash heals |
| 05:43.57 | Ivnedar | so you don't even have to care about targets, just target the boss, spam button, go have a nap |
| 05:51.24 | Amadeus- | that's pretty much chloromancer, right? |
| 06:00.50 | seebs | I miss rainbow charges. :( |
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| 16:39.55 | ZorbaTHut | I didn't even know there was a 3.0 beta :V if we get the ability to add people I'll let you know in here, though |
| 16:40.18 | Imhothar | can never have enough lab rats |
| 17:01.41 | seebs | I dunno if you saw, but I added suggestions for things which I am pretty sure the UI knows about, but which the API doesn't. |
| 17:01.59 | seebs | Specifically, (1) whether a given debuff can be cleansed, (2) whether an item is "usable". (Whatever the usable checkbox does.) |
| 17:06.30 | Imhothar | wooo Curse support for KSP? yay |
| 17:07.12 | ZorbaTHut | (1) may actually not be available, I'm not quite sure. Might be server-side only |
| 17:08.01 | Imhothar | now if it's also gonna work with the client and multiple installations… ooooh happy times |
| 17:20.30 | Kaelten | Imhothar :) |
| 17:21.48 | Imhothar | careful, Kaelten, I might be inclined to read more into that than I really should |
| 17:27.32 | seebs | I am pretty sure that whether things are cleansable is known to the client, because it can grey out cleanses when your target isn't cleansable. |
| 17:27.42 | seebs | It might be that it's a unit flag rather than a buff flag, though. |
| 17:28.08 | ZorbaTHut | ah, probably a buff flag, then |
| 17:30.57 | seebs | There's only a handful of cases where you can't simplify by looking at the buff type. |
| 17:31.07 | seebs | I believe there's one or two uncleansable curses and a cleansable bleed, though. |
| 17:31.24 | seebs | Hey! Zorba, I have a question that's probably too far back to be relevant now, but I always wondered. |
| 17:31.46 | seebs | A long time ago -- like two years maybe -- there was talk in this channel about the soul system, and about the huge impact that build choices could have. |
| 17:32.23 | seebs | And I observed that it must be fairly weird having no idea whether you've yet found the best builds, or whether players will find a way to suddenly increase their DPS. |
| 17:32.42 | seebs | And you said something to the effect of there being a calling for which the devs knew of a way to get a 15% DPS increase over what players had yet found. |
| 17:32.56 | seebs | This was pre-1.11, so it's obviously long-since irrelevant, but I am really curious as to whether you remember what that was. |
| 17:33.17 | ZorbaTHut | I don't think I knew what it was in the first place, honestly :) |
| 17:33.24 | seebs | Ahh, drat. |
| 17:33.38 | ZorbaTHut | I'd heard the devs grumbling that the players hadn't found the spec yet and that they weren't sure what to do about it |
| 17:33.52 | seebs | Well, let's see. We have at most half of the original class devs left. I can't remember whether Vladd was a class lead to begin with or is new there. |
| 17:33.55 | ZorbaTHut | but that's about it |
| 17:34.31 | seebs | Largest single thing I know of that most players don't seem to know about, but which isn't really all that amazing, is that the assassin poison-damage talent applies to charges, which are considered poisons. |
| 17:34.47 | Noshei | vladd was not an original class lead |
| 17:35.17 | seebs | I can remember Zinbik (cleric) and Atrius (... warrior, I think?). And there was a rogue dev, but I've forgotten one of the names. So maybe Atrius was the rogue dev and I forgot the warrior dev name. |
| 17:37.11 | Noshei | nope, he was the warrior dev |
| 17:42.01 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 23:58.44 | Ivnedar | I'm also curious to know whether those sort of +15% dps specs are known to some players and kept within the guild |