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| 23:12.48 | Ivnedar | roflmao, I love the squirrels with tiny hats |
| 23:15.19 | ZorbaTHut | the last two sentences in this channel are, put together, rather surreal |
| 23:15.37 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 23:15.42 | Ivnedar | It'll be a user mod somewhere |
| 23:16.00 | Ivnedar | Dead Simon posted a screenshot of him trying to attach head slot items to squirrels |
| 23:16.12 | ZorbaTHut | haha, beautiful |
| 23:16.26 | Imhothar | ...? |
| 23:16.30 | Ivnedar | http://cdn.trionworlds.com/rift/community/SquirrelHats.jpg |
| 23:17.48 | Ivnedar | wasn't happy with the result, would need more engineering work than he was willing to put into it |
| 23:18.33 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I suspect the squirrel bones just aren't set up in the right place |
| 23:23.27 | Imhothar | what the... |
| 23:24.20 | Imhothar | why? |
| 23:24.23 | Imhothar | and more importantly |
| 23:24.25 | Imhothar | how? |
| 23:24.50 | Ivnedar | http://forums.riftgame.com/general-discussions/dev-tracker/425115-dead-simon-unstable-artifacts-views-opinions-feedback.html |
| 23:24.52 | ZorbaTHut | well, with regards to "why" - http://cdn.trionworlds.com/rift/community/SquirrelHats.jpg I think this picture provides all the justification necessary |
| 23:25.30 | Imhothar | did some dev go mad? |
| 23:25.37 | Imhothar | raising his army of squirrels? |
| 23:25.38 | Ivnedar | Someone suggested that the artifact thieves (squirrels that run around the zone during Unstable zone events) should wear hats |
| 23:25.47 | ZorbaTHut | no, definitely not. that would require that a dev previously existed in a state of not being mad. |
| 23:26.01 | Imhothar | like the minions in Overworld, using random things as hats |
| 23:26.13 | Ivnedar | Dead Simon went mad long long ago |
| 23:27.27 | ZorbaTHut | I can think of a few ways to implement it, btw - the simplest I'm aware of is just to create a single permanent mesh "particle" attached to the squirrel's head bone |
| 23:28.02 | Ivnedar | let him know, he will either thank you or curse you for allowing him to continue in his madness |
| 23:28.10 | Imhothar | When WoW went Pokemon I was hoping one could give them armor |
| 23:28.11 | ZorbaTHut | I'm guessing that's what he's already doing |
| 23:28.21 | ZorbaTHut | the problem is that the helms aren't designed for squirrel heads |
| 23:28.42 | ZorbaTHut | and there's no particle support for re-anchoring meshes relative to a bone, they're not really built for that |
| 23:29.17 | Ivnedar | Sounds like he's drawing you into his particular flavour of madness :) |
| 23:29.26 | ZorbaTHut | they'd either need engineer support to improve the particle-bone attachment system, or art support to build a bunch of custom squirrels with hats (which wouldn't be as hard as you'd think, but it's still a nontrivial amount of time) |
| 23:29.41 | ZorbaTHut | this is the game industry, we're all mad here :V |
| 23:30.00 | Ivnedar | yes, but many implementations of such madness |
| 23:30.32 | Imhothar | seems a very complicated solution to a simple problem |
| 23:31.20 | Ivnedar | You're wanting to go down the "motion capture real squirrels wearing hats" approach? |
| 23:32.05 | Imhothar | giant maneating squirrels? |
| 23:32.53 | ZorbaTHut | nah, just grab the squirrel mesh, grab the hat mesh, copy-paste the latter into the former, attach it to the squirrel head bone, and manually adjust it to be placed in the appropriate location on the squirrel's head |
| 23:32.53 | Ivnedar | I have an image in my head now of Dead Simon saying "Screw this" and heading outside with traps |
| 23:32.58 | ZorbaTHut | then save it as a new mesh |
| 23:33.27 | Imhothar | or... add an attachment point to the mesh and attach a scaled-down hat? |
| 23:33.49 | ZorbaTHut | then you're asking the artists to go through every single squirrel animation and create a new bone |
| 23:34.08 | Imhothar | isn't there a head bone already? |
| 23:34.15 | ZorbaTHut | there is, and that's what you're seeing it attach due |
| 23:34.16 | Ivnedar | sings along to "The hat bone's connected to the .... head bone" |
| 23:34.31 | ZorbaTHut | but due to how squirrel heads are built differently from human heads, the same bone was never really intended to work to attach human helms to squirrel heads |
| 23:34.53 | Imhothar | who will really see the difference at those sizes |
| 23:35.29 | ZorbaTHut | lots of people, sadly - http://cdn.trionworlds.com/rift/community/SquirrelHats.jpg is about as good as it'll get |
| 23:35.37 | ZorbaTHut | we do try to keep our art standards reasonably high :) |
| 23:36.17 | Imhothar | can't spoil the dancing squirrels |
| 23:36.24 | Ivnedar | I'm curious to know what changed to cause the Kaliban area in GA's floor to disappear consistently for some people |
| 23:36.37 | Imhothar | SQUIRRELS FOR THE SQUIRREL GOD |
| 23:36.54 | Ivnedar | The Vigil are all squirrels |
| 23:37.00 | ZorbaTHut | ivnedar, we're having some trouble with some of our geometry culling code :/ it's proving flakier than we really wanted |
| 23:37.08 | Ivnedar | If you haven't been keeping up on Rift lore |
| 23:37.19 | Ivnedar | ZorbaTHut: no worries. We're treating it as a new hard mode :) |
| 23:37.46 | Ivnedar | Big rectangle of ground gone at most camera angles |
| 23:37.51 | Ivnedar | sometimes flickers back in |
| 23:38.28 | Imhothar | I wonder if Smite has a squirrel god... |
| 23:38.38 | Imhothar | I know there's a God of Bees |
| 23:38.45 | ZorbaTHut | nuts for the squirrel god |
| 23:39.04 | Imhothar | that makes too muhc sense |
