| 00:03.55 | seebs | I have this difficulty with the git integration on riftui, which is that it seems to be aimed at a use case where the contents of the repo are the actual usable addon, while I'm using it for source from which I generate addons. |
| 00:05.48 | Noshei | curse git seems to work better than riftui imo |
| 00:11.08 | seebs | I haven't actually looked at it, but my impression is that they both have the same basic idea: This is a repository for your addon as such, or for use with a particular set of packaging tools. And I, of course, have my own packaging tools. |
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| 01:14.16 | seebs | So I sometimes hear people talking about horrible problems with 150% mounts, and other people saying they're fine. |
| 01:14.25 | seebs | And it just finally occurred to me that this is probably frame-rate dependent. |
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| 04:50.24 | ZorbaBeta | seebs, I've considered responding to those by saying that I know of no situation where we've reduced graphics quality for the sake of performance - which actually happens to be true - but I sorta figure getting in the middle of it may be a bad idea |
| 04:50.46 | ZorbaBeta | (well, post-release at least - we did some pretty painful reductions in the shadow system pre-release) |
| 04:51.16 | seebs | I suspect the people involved are not about to believe anything that contradicts their views. |
| 04:51.27 | seebs | I mean. These are people accusing *Daglar* of weasel words and sugar-coating things. |
| 04:51.29 | seebs | They are not sane. |
| 04:51.35 | ZorbaBeta | *nod* yeah |
| 04:52.07 | seebs | The hilarity of watching the same people jump into every new thread to predict that Trion will stiff people somehow has not yet really gotten old for me. |
| 04:57.10 | ZorbaBeta | man, there's a bunch of mobile games I could introduce them to if they want to know what that's like |
| 04:57.39 | ZorbaBeta | there's one I'm playing around with right now that has a button you press, over and over, to fight things. if you pay them enough money there's a second button you can press to automatically press the first button for you |
| 05:07.55 | Noshei | wow ZorbaBeta that is pretty nice |
| 05:21.43 | Ivnedar | lol, which game? |
| 05:22.57 | ZorbaBeta | Pocket Knights. it's actually somewhat interesting - it's like someone started with Progress Quest, then just started adding features and never stopped |
| 05:23.19 | ZorbaBeta | you will be finding new buttons to push that make numbers go up for well over an hour after installing it |
| 05:24.58 | Noshei | ZorbaBeta: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/800208/filter-account-type |
| 05:25.03 | Noshei | new currency item |
| 05:26.03 | ZorbaBeta | I've suspected a new currency item, presumably involving corruption in some manner |
| 05:27.31 | Noshei | I would have to agree with that |
| 05:31.34 | ZorbaBeta | "corrupted" seems to be either "reroll implicit mod" or "add white socket". maybe other things. |
| 06:22.58 | seebs | So basically cookie clicker? |
| 06:23.26 | seebs | The mobile game. Not the new currency item. |
| 06:23.34 | seebs | Oh, Zorba, I have a data point perhaps. |
| 06:23.49 | seebs | Which is that I still see the white face with green lipstick thing... But I haven't seen the other recoloring bug once since 2.6. |
| 06:55.17 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, cookie clicker if the developer went crazy and added dozens of game mechanics |
| 06:55.32 | ZorbaBeta | and, huh, curious. Well, that might be progress. Although I wouldn't entirely expect that bug to vanish until 2.7 |
| 07:24.41 | seebs | I cannot figure out whether the "glowing sapphire ki-rin" actually glows or not. The store previews never show particle effects. And I saw someone with a non-glowing blue kirin, but I don't know whether that's a different mount. |
| 07:26.42 | seebs | Ah-hah. There are apparently both glowing and non-glowing models. |
| 07:28.11 | seebs | ... Well, hey. There may be an actual rendering question here for Zorba. |
| 07:28.22 | seebs | There's a thread on the forums about the glowing sapphire kirin, with a screenshot of the store showing it. |
| 07:28.27 | seebs | And the glow effect is displayed. |
| 07:28.32 | seebs | I've never seen a glow effect in the store. |
| 07:28.57 | seebs | Like, right now the glowing sapphire kirin is in the store, and I see no glow effect on it. |
| 07:29.26 | seebs | But Slipmat's thread from October showed the store UI with a glowing mount. |
| 07:30.25 | ZorbaBeta | there's been a few bugs with vfx in stores. we fixed one of them in 2.6; it also wouldn't surprise me if the compatibility renderer works while the standard renderer doesn't, or vice-versa |
| 07:30.36 | seebs | gah |
| 07:30.39 | seebs | Weirder still. |
| 07:30.46 | seebs | The preview shows the glow now. |
| 07:30.54 | ZorbaBeta | it also might have to do with (as awful as this sounds) what other visual effects are being rendered at the time. for a while, some zones would show vfx in the shop while others wouldn't |
| 07:31.09 | ZorbaBeta | it turned out the sky model was clobbering a few values and they weren't being set back properly :P |
| 07:31.19 | seebs | So the main page ad for the glowing kirin shows no glow, but the preview in the mount page shows it. |
| 07:31.22 | ZorbaBeta | fixing this stuff is unfortunately a work in progress |
| 07:31.39 | seebs | It's a nightmare. |
| 07:32.13 | seebs | BTW, I put a space sky projector in an edge of infinity dim, and Strange Things Happened. |
| 07:32.36 | seebs | The large planet remained in the same place in the sky, but its appearance changed radically, and I have no idea whether that's intentional or not. :) |
| 07:32.38 | ZorbaBeta | unfortunately this is a consistent issue for dx9-era renderers, as well as opengl renderers. both of those APIs keep a very large global state, with significant CPU overhead for changing that state |
| 07:32.50 | ZorbaBeta | so you try to change as little as possible, and inevitably you undershoot once in a while and a value ends up wrong :/ |
| 07:33.08 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 07:33.37 | ZorbaBeta | for a while Rift's solution was "change everything no matter what" - that's been fixed many patches back, but of course it exposed a ton of waiting bugs |
| 07:33.40 | seebs | Man, that is a pretty mount. Of course, since I have two accounts, getting it for everyone is still pretty pricey. But it is awful pretty. |
| 07:33.57 | ZorbaBeta | our artists do good work :) |
| 07:34.01 | seebs | I gotta say, "25% off all mounts the moment they go account-bound" is brilliant. |
| 07:34.32 | seebs | And really, somewhat more player-friendly than account-bound first, and then a discount period a week or three later. |
| 07:40.58 | seebs | ... Well, this is a new experience. |
| 07:41.08 | seebs | I got some weapon upgrades, and discovered that they're actually not upgrades. |
| 07:41.28 | seebs | Because I forgot that my PA is currently spent on trees that give attack power buffs when wielding daggers, but don't when wielding swords. |
| 07:51.19 | seebs | Zorba, I have for you possibly the most awesome bug report ever. |
| 07:51.29 | seebs | Go to Tempest Bay, wander over to crafting hall. |
| 07:51.35 | seebs | Open store, go to mount list, look at sapphire kirin. |
| 07:51.44 | seebs | For me, there are no glow effects. |
| 07:51.57 | seebs | So. Walk out to the mailbox. Glow effects. Back up slowly. Glow effects disappear. |
| 07:52.29 | seebs | Better yet. |
| 07:52.45 | seebs | There exists a point in this hallway where *only some hooves* glow. |
| 07:52.49 | seebs | And rotating the model changes which ones. |
| 07:54.32 | seebs | ... Also causes them to sometimes be off-center from the things that are supposed to glow. |
| 07:55.00 | seebs | Rotating my real camera also changes this, so it's camera position, not character position. |
| 07:58.38 | ZorbaBeta | well, that's pretty entertaining :V |
| 07:58.42 | seebs | It really is. |
| 07:58.53 | seebs | The orientation of my camera appears to have no effect, just the location. |
| 07:59.11 | ZorbaBeta | should make it pretty easy to track down, at least - I'll see what I can manage :) |
| 07:59.45 | seebs | But I have found a position in which if I rotate the mount to face me directly, the blue hoof fire is off to (my) right of the mount by a large margin, and the green glowy stuff for its back is off to (my) left by a fair distance. |
| 08:00.19 | seebs | Huh, the green glowy stuff just seems to be stuck on the left side of the preview now. So strange. |
| 08:00.55 | seebs | ooh |
| 08:01.04 | seebs | And now if I preview other things, they keep the hoof fire and the spare green glow. |
| 08:01.09 | seebs | I am the death of rendering engines. |
| 08:02.25 | seebs | Anyway, maybe that'll be useful. The actual purpose of all of this was me trying to figure out what the mount looked liked, which is a problem long-since resolved. |
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| 09:07.14 | Repo | dimension-tools: kikimora_ * r13 (15 files in 6 directories): Release Ready Version |
| 12:30.21 | Repo | attend: xenyre * r25 (5 files in 1 directory): (2 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 12:30.22 | Repo | Version 2.0 |
| 12:30.24 | Repo | - Rift 2.6 support |
| 12:30.26 | Repo | - Added Bosses for TDQ, FT, EE, PBB and IG |
| 12:30.28 | Repo | - Added XML export |
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| 13:08.16 | Imhothar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHVWegNfQl0 |
| 13:08.20 | Imhothar | that;s just brilliant |
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| 14:36.36 | Repo | easy-mail: Silvanoshei master * v0.4.2 (77 files in 8 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 14:36.38 | Repo | 084cf47: Version v0.4.2 Fixed error when right clicking items in ImhoBags |
| 14:36.40 | Repo | 5552414: Merge branch 'master' into v0.4.0 |
| 14:36.43 | Repo | 5a49497: Version v0.4.1 Forgot to update the version on the addon (doh) |
| 14:36.44 | Repo | 9105e7c: Version v0.4.0 Updated Inventory to use new Event system Updated Addon Loaded Message to use new Event system Removed emMessage from loading (was never used) Fixed issue with sending money and more than 6 attachments Fixed issue with tooltips sometimes not showing up Added support for attaching items from ImhoBags Rebuild Grid on Inbox, Send, and Archive Tabs Rebuild Tabs Removed nkGenie Library Added right click option to Contacts (will replace To lis |
| 14:36.48 | Repo | easy-mail: Silvanoshei v0.4.2 * 5ec24c4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.4.2 |
| 14:37.46 | Noshei | gah, why is it doing that! |
| 14:37.54 | Noshei | all I uploaded was one tag |
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| 14:47.23 | Kikimora | question, just to be sure. if under tortioseSVN branch/tag i put /tags/Dimension_Tools_release_v1.2.0 in the to path line, my addon will get the tag release wright |
| 15:09.27 | Imhothar | yes, but you usually just want to call it tags/v1.2.0 |
| 15:10.32 | Imhothar | afaik the name of the tag subdirectory is taken as the version number as a whole |
| 15:10.56 | Kikimora | k, i'll keep that in mind when i release my addon in the course of today/tomorrow :) |
| 15:15.03 | Kikimora | k so it would be better to just use v1.2.0 then |
| 15:15.16 | Noshei | yes |
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| 18:54.29 | Repo | dimension-tools: kikimora_ v1.2.0 * r14 : First official release |