| 00:07.51 | Amadeus- | wonder what "lua_bot" does |
| 00:09.13 | Ivnedar | lua> print("Hi!") |
| 00:09.14 | lua_bot | Ivnedar: Hi! |
| 00:13.07 | Amadeus- | lol |
| 00:13.43 | Amadeus- | lua> if 1 > 0 then print("I love math!") end |
| 00:13.43 | lua_bot | Amadeus-: I love math! |
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| 00:34.11 | seebs | Forum complaint: Playing on Seastone, getting ganked. People point out it's PvP shard. Poster responds by agreeing that this is clearly the case and he was apparently really tired when he created his character. Drama mostly averted. |
| 00:35.09 | Ivnedar | you're complaining that it ended so quickly and civilly? |
| 00:35.47 | seebs | Nope, happy. For a change. |
| 00:35.53 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 00:35.57 | seebs | I just mentioned it because someone admitting to having made a mistake is so unusual. |
| 00:41.05 | Ivnedar | having the fun of repairing systems that have had their filesystems ripped out from under them :D |
| 00:41.20 | Ivnedar | feels like a friday afternoon task, not a friday morning task |
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| 01:29.21 | seebs | Huh, that was odd. Handed in a quest, got another quest complete message and another copy of the hand-in window, which had no effect. |
| 01:29.31 | seebs | Zorba, I found an inconsistency which is probably not a bug: |
| 01:30.03 | seebs | If you open the addon window, after unpacking an addon, the window shows the new addon, probably enabled by default. And... Clicking OK or APPLY does not do anything. Because you didn't make a change, even though the state now depicted is a change. |
| 01:55.33 | Ivnedar | seebs: ashora empyreal assault gathering dailies? |
| 01:55.46 | seebs | Nah, random crafting hand-in. |
| 01:56.08 | Ivnedar | I get it most days when I go to turn in the ashora dailies |
| 01:56.47 | Ivnedar | there's 6 or so dailies, you turn one in, it either reopens that quest again with no way to turn it in, or it goes back to the quest list on the npc with the one I just handed in marked as complete, but unable to be selected |
| 01:57.26 | seebs | Oh, hey. I want to know if this is Just Me. |
| 01:57.49 | seebs | Open shop, crafting, go to any craft or reagents. In the search interface, select the minimum skill, type 300. Move focus elsewhere. |
| 01:58.00 | seebs | Now click on that window again. If I do this, it selects the "30" but not the trailing 0. |
| 01:59.00 | seebs | gah |
| 01:59.20 | seebs | I still want to find some chest armor that (1) actually looks like armor, really, and (2) isn't plate and (3) also isn't a full robe. |
| 01:59.53 | seebs | This is very, very, hard for female characters. There appears to be a nigh-unbreakable rule in Telaran armor design that you must expose at least 15% of the surface area of the breasts, and either the sternum or the belly button, in all armor designs. |
| 02:09.49 | Ivnedar | It's RPG law isn't it? |
| 02:10.07 | seebs | So far as I can tell, there is exactly one such item in the game. |
| 02:10.09 | Ivnedar | female skin protects better from projectiles than the hardest/thickest plate armor |
| 02:10.22 | Ivnedar | so the more skin you expose, the more protected they are |
| 02:10.24 | seebs | There's a "vigilante" set in the shop. Although I think I have a regular armor piece with that model which isn't PvP gear on an alt. |
| 02:12.01 | seebs | In terms of sheer "oh come on that's just dumb", though, my favorite is the Desolate Chain set, which actually goes out of its way to have multiple holes in the crotch area so you can see the model's undies. |
| 02:12.40 | Ivnedar | more than one person in my guild raid group never wears any clothes |
| 02:12.45 | Ivnedar | all female models |
| 02:13.25 | seebs | See, this is why I am confused. Obviously, people who want to show skin have really easy ways to do it. |
| 02:14.00 | seebs | I get that lots of people like randomly-skimpy outfits, but seriously, *only one* leather chest armor without gratuitous boobs, belly button, or whatever? ONE?? There's gotta be more demand than that. |
| 03:08.22 | Amadeus- | Ivnedar, seebs ...I could look this up but I have a feeling you might have it memorized: how can I easily tell if someone is holding down the "control" key (i.e., for use in a Event.UI.Input.Mouse.Left.Click callback) |
| 03:22.05 | seebs | I don't know. I'm not even sure we can. |
| 03:36.32 | Amadeus- | oh ..lol |
| 03:36.49 | Amadeus- | I figured that there would be something similar to the inspect mouse thing |
| 03:37.14 | Amadeus- | another question though I bet there is an easy answer: easy way to tell X,Y coordinate of the middle of the screen |
| 03:39.15 | Ivnedar | UIParent:GetWidth()/2 |
| 03:39.19 | Ivnedar | UIParent:GetHeight()/2 |
| 03:43.05 | Amadeus- | hmmm...maybe there is an event for keypress on an element then I could check if mouse is down ..and that would work out to the same thing? |
| 03:44.05 | Ivnedar | does the frame need to have keyfocus to get that keypress event? |
| 03:44.19 | Amadeus- | I dunno ..guess we'll find out :) |
| 03:48.09 | seebs | If all else fails, you might be able to get key focus by trying to attach to an event on UIParent or something similar and looking for Key<something>.Dive events. |
| 03:48.21 | seebs | And then just ignoring them, but recording any dead key states. |
| 03:51.47 | Amadeus- | Ivnedar, your solution for middle of the screen didn't work ...was was quite a bit southeast of the middle |
| 03:52.20 | Amadeus- | actually..hang on...I might have a better solution anyway |
| 03:52.29 | Ivnedar | how are you positioning your frames? CENTER of your frame to CENTER of UIParent? |
| 03:53.11 | Ivnedar | 'cause then you're talking relative positioning |
| 03:54.53 | Amadeus- | it's cool.. I found a better way :) |
| 03:55.11 | Amadeus- | will just use SetPoint |
| 03:55.27 | Ivnedar | if you're talking relative to the centre of the screen, then the centre is 0,0 :D |
| 04:00.46 | Ivnedar | wow, Q-Games' PixelJunk Eden is on sale for 75% off on the steam sale |
| 04:01.09 | Amadeus- | Ivnedar, you're confusing me ... SetPoint("TOPLEFT", UIParent, "TOPLEFT", 0, 0) puts it in the top left corner |
| 04:01.22 | Amadeus- | oh |
| 04:01.29 | Ivnedar | it took 8 hours to sell the same amount, income wise, as they had sold since it was released in feb 2012 |
| 04:01.42 | Amadeus- | it should be "CENTER" as the first argument, huh |
| 04:02.01 | Ivnedar | if you want to be middle of the screen, yeah, attach it to CENTER of UIParent |
| 04:02.10 | Ivnedar | bbl, meeting! |
| 04:03.04 | seebs | Both should be CENTER, otherwise you'll be putting the top left corner of your thing in the center of the screen. |
| 04:12.49 | Amadeus- | you know, that right-click context menu thing that 'gadgets' uses is really nice |
| 04:15.44 | Amadeus- | -- when I use this: |
| 04:15.45 | Amadeus- | Patronage_Settings.mmx = UIParent:GetWidth()/2 |
| 04:15.46 | Amadeus- | Patronage_Settings.mmy = UIParent:GetHeight()/2 |
| 04:15.46 | Amadeus- | PAT.UI.mm:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", Patronage_Settings.mmx, Patronage_Settings.mmy) |
| 04:15.53 | Amadeus- | ....the button isn't visable anywhere on the screen |
| 04:16.13 | Amadeus- | but if I change "CENTER" to "TOPLEFT" (both cases) ..it shows up on the southeast of the screen |
| 04:19.50 | Amadeus- | oh well ..it's not that important anyway |
| 04:35.42 | seebs | If you do CENTER, you want 0 as offsets. |
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| 12:54.51 | Amadeus- | What is the defintion of "all the units a player can see" with this command? Inspect.Unit.List() |
| 12:55.03 | Amadeus- | that seems very vague to me. |
| 12:56.49 | Amadeus- | so ...the player, the player's target, the player's target's target, group/raid members, focus target(?) ...anything else? |
| 12:57.00 | Amadeus- | pets maybe? |
| 12:59.40 | Amadeus- | ...hmm, yea I don't see a method to list all possible "specifiers" |
| 13:16.16 | Amadeus- | --- |
| 13:17.01 | Amadeus- | seebs, Ivnedar -- I had this idea of making a simple addon for guild leader that would create a tab delimited "block of text" of the current raid make-up and display it in a window. Then, he could copy/paste into a google doc. |
| 13:17.30 | Amadeus- | is this viable? I mean, is there a UI element that I can use to show a lot of text and would it preserve "tabs"? |
| 13:17.39 | Amadeus- | or maybe ZorbaBeta? ^ |
| 13:18.01 | Amadeus- | I'm trying to think of a way around the whole "no file IO" :( |
| 13:18.56 | Amadeus- | another thought ...I suppose...would be to request a way to turn the /log on and off via the addon API ...and then a way to turn off the addon "header" for each line. ....but, then again, I don't know if tabs would preserve or not ...seems like it should be possible. |
| 13:19.17 | Amadeus- | ....maybe a way to specify a unique log file name with the /log command would also be possible ;) |
| 13:19.31 | Amadeus- | reminds ZorbaBeta of http://forums.riftgame.com/technical-discussions/addon-api-development/305577-file-i-o-2.html#post3675255 |
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| 13:36.30 | ZorbaBeta | amadeus, there's no way to make a conclusive list of all possible specifiers - it would literally be infinite - but it's basically a list of units that the client is aware of that and that have valid specifiers |
| 13:36.35 | ZorbaBeta | plus "player" is always valid |
| 13:36.54 | Amadeus- | but, for the most part it's things you could see in a frame on the regular UI? |
| 13:37.08 | ZorbaBeta | yup, those should all be available |
| 13:37.59 | Amadeus- | I guess I could just think about everything I've seen used by addons thus far ..hehe |
| 13:38.04 | Amadeus- | in KBM and gadgets |
| 13:38.48 | Amadeus- | what did you think of the idea of being able to specify particular log file name with /log and being able to remove the addon 'header'? Would that still make design folks sad? |
| 13:39.04 | Amadeus- | just be cool to have log files specific to particular addons :) |
| 13:39.20 | ZorbaBeta | the basic answer is that if I can't output data in general, then yes, but if I can, then I can come up with a better system ;) |
| 13:39.53 | Amadeus- | I don't quite follow that answer :) |
| 13:40.06 | ZorbaBeta | either I can't do that, or I can do something better |
| 13:40.15 | Amadeus- | ohhh |
| 13:40.33 | Amadeus- | well, I was just trying to think of a solution to allow for exporting data while not asking for io.file |
| 13:40.53 | Amadeus- | will try the copy/paste thing ...I saw wow addons do that |
| 13:41.27 | Amadeus- | but ..i had in my mind that there was some mmo I played where you could do "/log <filename>" ...but I could be dreaming |
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| 13:43.35 | Noshei | you could actually have a specifier like this (player.target.target.focus.target.target.pet.target.target.focus.target.target.target.target.target.target |
| 13:44.20 | ZorbaBeta | actually I don't think that one's valid, .focus isn't available in the middle. replace it with .owner and it's valid though :) |
| 13:47.11 | Noshei | oh I should have tossed a group05 in there as well |
| 14:24.15 | Ivnedar | you'd have to pick out of group01-20 or player or focus as that first bit wouldn't you? |
| 14:24.23 | Ivnedar | I don't think those are valid in the middle anywhere |
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| 14:28.58 | Amadeus- | RiftTextField is the box that you use to compose mail, right? |
| 14:31.53 | Amadeus- | ZorbaBeta, is there a character limit to "RiftTextField" or "Text" UI objects? |
| 16:27.02 | Noshei | so text is a display object, RiftTextField is an input object |
| 16:27.29 | Noshei | and no, I dont believe there is any character limit on either |
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