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| 02:25.52 | seebs | Huh. |
| 02:26.08 | seebs | So this one persistent troll who was reduced to /say the other day showed up again today, doing his usual stuff. |
| 02:26.21 | seebs | And then he sent someone a tell saying he was being banned, and ceased to be logged in. |
| 02:27.10 | seebs | I feel that the guy who responds to basically any lack of appreciation of his "humor" with threats of violence and rape will not be much missed. |
| 02:45.14 | Noshei | hey ZorbaTHut, I'm wondering how mounts are stored for a character. |
| 02:45.36 | Noshei | is there a hidden "mount" bag they go into when they are unequipped? |
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| 04:28.24 | ZorbaTHut | noshei, yup. characters have a *ton* of hidden bags. |
| 04:28.42 | ZorbaTHut | there's even a bag bag that holds your bags. |
| 04:28.47 | Noshei | lol |
| 04:29.25 | Noshei | so would it be possible to make the mount bag viewable through the addon api? |
| 04:29.37 | Noshei | that way we could scan what mounts a character has |
| 04:29.53 | ZorbaTHut | yes, but realistically I'd just do mount.list()/mount.detail() as you'd expect |
| 04:30.31 | Noshei | yeah I was jut figuring that adding a few more bags would be easier than setting up those functions |
| 04:30.33 | ZorbaTHut | a lot of the special-purpose bags don't behave quite like normal bags - infinite size and the like |
| 04:30.51 | Noshei | no surprise there |
| 04:31.17 | ZorbaTHut | well, first, adding the mount list/detail functions is probably only a few days of work. second, the item system is actually *really* complicated - even if I didn't want to make a nasty API, it might actually take *longer* |
| 04:31.35 | ZorbaTHut | plus, for hopefully obvious reasons, exposing those mount bags as "bags" is just asking for weird bugs and exploits. |
| 04:31.52 | Noshei | true enough |
| 04:33.37 | Noshei | I just really want to make a random mount addon, that doesn't require a lot of config for the users |
| 04:34.13 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, understandable |
| 04:38.51 | seebs | I still don't remember why I thought that the addon to put opaque things behind chat windows would be hard. |
| 04:39.09 | seebs | BTW, I am reminded of a thing I've filed a few times: Why do ALL the chat windows have a text entry box that takes up space and can't be removed? |
| 04:40.51 | Noshei | ^scaleform |
| 04:42.10 | ZorbaTHut | probably because it's low on the priority list to fix |
| 04:42.49 | seebs | It's a pet peeve, just because it's a significant waste of real-estate for people who have more than one or two windows. |
| 04:43.48 | seebs | Also, any time I interact with the combat log for any reason, it becomes the window chat goes to until I remember to go click on another tab. |
| 04:59.21 | Ivnedar | oh score, mount api in 2 days? |
| 04:59.23 | Ivnedar | hides |
| 05:02.49 | ZorbaTHut | if I ran out of other things to do. sadly I have no shortage of other things to do :V |
| 05:06.14 | Ivnedar | I know the feeling :) |
| 05:06.30 | Ivnedar | Though, lately it feels like I'm having to spend more time making lists of things I need to do than actually doing them :( |
| 05:07.00 | ZorbaTHut | I personally bought a Jira license to help with that |
| 05:07.16 | Ivnedar | I think I still have a 5 person license |
| 05:07.26 | Ivnedar | It's on my list somewhere :D |
| 05:07.34 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that's what I got too. Works great if you can host it somewhere (VPS, for me) |
| 05:07.46 | Ivnedar | hrrm, that's an idea |
| 05:11.07 | Noshei | thats an interesting product |
| 05:11.42 | Ivnedar | I had it running at home on my main machine |
| 05:11.52 | Ivnedar | So I never had access to it whenever I needed to add things to it |
| 05:12.02 | Ivnedar | so its usefulness didn't really show up |
| 05:12.31 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I strongly recommend putting it somewhere you can access it over the internet |
| 05:12.41 | ZorbaTHut | if you can punch a hole in your firewall and expose it to the outside, that's another option |
| 05:12.59 | Ivnedar | If I had a useful internet connection at home, that'd be an option :D |
| 05:13.01 | ZorbaTHut | also atlassian does offer a hosting option which is cheaper than a full-fledged VPS (though a VPS is pretty handy for other things as well) |
| 05:13.19 | Ivnedar | Sadly, I live in the internet backwater that is Australia |
| 05:16.17 | Ivnedar | interesting, jira is the same to buy as it is to host |
| 05:16.27 | Ivnedar | ah, nevermind, hosting is per month :D |
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| 05:21.33 | Imhothar__ | the Atlassian stuff is pretty awesome |
| 05:22.01 | Amadeus- | I use linode for my hosting |
| 05:22.02 | Amadeus- | linode = awesome |
| 05:23.50 | Ivnedar | https://github.com/samyk/skyjack |
| 05:23.53 | Ivnedar | interesting project :) |
| 05:23.57 | Imhothar__ | it's not the hosting, it's their products |
| 05:24.01 | seebs | More rumors, apparently the troll's mistake was telling someone that he would keep her in his basement, starve her, and rape her. So the regular death threats he normally sent might not have gotten him banned, but that was enough to do it. |
| 05:25.04 | Ivnedar | At least there's a line |
| 05:44.28 | seebs | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.40 | Ivnedar | I wonder how Kiwi went with the magic carpet |
| 05:51.06 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I use Linode too. Works pretty dang well. |
| 06:01.32 | seebs | You know, I do think it hampers things a bit that the GMs aren't allowed to say "yup, we permabanned him". |
| 06:02.01 | seebs | Because that leaves us unable to *tell* whether someone actually found the line, or whether they just got another temp ban. :P |
| 06:03.18 | Ivnedar | It's a shame that chat is so transient. You can't have "this comment got an infraction" in real time |
| 06:09.11 | seebs | Yeah. But if the GMs could respond to a ticket with "yup, that's a one-week vacation for him", or "yeah, he's permabanned now", that would help SO much. |
| 06:43.22 | Noshei | It seems that daglar took my suggestion for a patron perk |
| 06:43.26 | Noshei | "Weekly Patron Gifts now also include a guaranteed Greenscale's Supply Crate of Rare, Epic, Relic, or even the Transcendent Limited Edition rarity!" |
| 06:44.23 | Thorarin | Hmm, I did have a relic crate just now |
| 06:44.35 | Ivnedar | wow, now, to work out if we should loot weekly after reset, or after patch, or both |
| 06:44.45 | Thorarin | No patch here yet tho, not sure if there needs to be... |
| 06:45.21 | Ivnedar | hrrm, weekly reset has happened there already? |
| 06:45.34 | Thorarin | Yes |
| 06:45.51 | Ivnedar | hax! |
| 06:45.51 | Thorarin | But patch is normally on thursday in Europe |
| 06:46.08 | Noshei | you may have just gotten extra lucky, maybe |
| 06:46.09 | Ivnedar | patch was a day early for US last week |
| 06:46.16 | Ivnedar | assuming due to thanksgiving |
| 06:46.26 | Thorarin | It was a day early also for EU |
| 06:46.27 | Ivnedar | bbl! |
| 06:47.38 | seebs | Patch notes are up, patch itself isn't, I don't think. |
| 06:47.54 | Noshei | yeah |
| 06:48.01 | seebs | Consider me technically impressed. |
| 06:48.09 | seebs | I resubbed, based on what I'd been seeing (and liking). |
| 06:48.28 | seebs | I didn't get loyalty until I relogged, but the NEW ABILITIES SHORTCUT window for the patron buffs showed up instantly. |
| 06:49.24 | Noshei | oh and the new patron potion |
| 06:49.39 | seebs | I don't have it yet, but I do like it, since I sometimes do artifact-hunting. |
| 06:49.39 | Noshei | shows artifacts on the minimap for 30 minutes, I love that one |
| 06:50.22 | Noshei | I'm a huge artifact nerd, so I will get lots of use out of that one |
| 06:51.58 | Noshei | I really like what they did with the patch notes this week |
| 06:52.13 | Noshei | where they gave credit to people for some stuff |
| 06:52.39 | seebs | That was also cool. |
| 06:53.11 | Noshei | wish they would have tossed my name in there for the loot crates for patrons, was so my suggestion |
| 06:53.51 | Noshei | though I'm perfectly happy just to see it done |
| 06:54.23 | Noshei | anyways, I'm off to bed |
| 06:54.25 | Noshei | night all |
| 06:55.22 | Thorarin | wtf is up with the sudden thanking people for reporting bugs... in the patchnotes? |
| 06:56.47 | Thorarin | The Temporal weapons for warriors have been fixed to properly have attack power instead of spell power. |
| 06:57.00 | Thorarin | Had a gun with spell power indeed :P |
| 07:11.41 | seebs | I think it's cool giving people credit for stuff. |
| 07:39.09 | Ivnedar | oh wow, patrons get an artifact pot? :D |
| 07:39.17 | Ivnedar | (glad I added that to redar now) |
| 07:40.03 | Ivnedar | you know what'd get a lot of people to sub? |
| 07:40.18 | Ivnedar | make it so patron cq power decay is half of normal :P |
| 07:40.39 | Ivnedar | surely the biggest cash injection from that one thing |
| 07:43.08 | Ivnedar | they really should remove twisted artifact vials from the store |
| 07:50.41 | Ivnedar | I'm glad to see some form of feedback about text/typo fixes too |
| 07:51.57 | Ivnedar | I've been in the state of "what's the point reporting them, they're never looked at or fixed" |
| 07:52.06 | Ivnedar | now there's some visibility of some being fixed, I may report again! |
| 07:54.46 | seebs | Yup. |
| 07:59.44 | Ivnedar | I have a suggestion! Kinect casting! |
| 08:00.31 | Ivnedar | That could be a lot of fun for some people |
| 08:00.39 | Ivnedar | And even more fun watching live streams of people using it! |
| 08:08.26 | seebs | I... |
| 08:08.38 | seebs | I just got ignored for chatting in-character. |
| 08:08.38 | Ivnedar | love it! I know :) |
| 08:08.43 | Ivnedar | O_o |
| 08:08.46 | seebs | Admittedly. The character' |
| 08:08.50 | seebs | character's name is Merisioux. |
| 08:09.06 | seebs | I was gloating about how I need to make money, but it's okay, I am better at making money than ANYONE. |
| 08:09.18 | seebs | Then I followed up by observing that I'd doubled my wealth in a signle fight. |
| 08:09.20 | seebs | single. |
| 08:09.27 | seebs | Which is entirely true, I might add. I went from 4g50s to 9g25s. |
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| 08:09.45 | Ivnedar | almost doubled your money in a matter of seconds! |
| 08:10.53 | Ivnedar | btw, Tacitus == awesome |
| 08:10.54 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 08:11.20 | seebs | I agree in general, but what specifically did he do this time? |
| 08:11.34 | Ivnedar | Nailed it with his latest post about the harvesting resources from mobs |
| 08:11.53 | seebs | Oooh. |
| 08:12.20 | Ivnedar | tl;dr version "Here's a clear explanation as to why it happened, let's get rid of all the rumours/conspiracies" |
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| 08:16.35 | Ivnedar | Damnit, new favourite dev! (after ZorbaTHut of course) |
| 08:18.45 | seebs | That is very nice, and also I can usefully respond to it. |
| 08:19.02 | seebs | Because I have *no* materials banked and I have all 21 daily/weekly crafting quests, and just made a chart of the materials I need to complete them. |
| 08:19.41 | Ivnedar | Yeah, he brings up the actual issues behind it (as I believe them to be) and offers a few reasons why they may be issues now, and invites discourse on those issues, instead of all the conspiracy mongering |
| 08:22.51 | Ivnedar | I should poke my head in and recommend everyone use ReDAR for tracking nodes ;) |
| 08:26.15 | Ivnedar | oh wow, I'd completely forgotten about the different languages in wow |
| 08:26.24 | Ivnedar | some players speaking in orcish next to me :D |
| 08:36.56 | seebs | ReDAR? |
| 08:37.01 | Ivnedar | :O |
| 08:37.16 | Ivnedar | Resource RADAR addon :) |
| 08:37.40 | seebs | Aren't addons basically cheating because they play the game for you? |
| 08:38.25 | Ivnedar | nah, that's multiboxing |
| 08:38.32 | seebs | nicely played |
| 08:38.44 | Ivnedar | ;) |
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| 10:46.05 | Amadeus- | Ivnedar, do you know if it's possible to hide the regular Rift raid frames when using an addon like Gadgets? |
| 10:52.33 | Ivnedar | you can hide the raid frames in the edit layout thing |
| 10:53.03 | Amadeus- | hmmm |
| 10:53.07 | Amadeus- | hide the native frames? |
| 10:53.10 | Amadeus- | OH |
| 10:53.11 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 10:53.20 | Amadeus- | I forgot all about that ..lol |
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