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| 02:44.43 | Ivnedar | interesting gear changes in wow |
| 03:56.21 | Noshei | Ivnedar: your talking about the single set of gear thing? |
| 03:56.29 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 03:56.38 | Ivnedar | and the three tiers of stats |
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| 11:20.33 | Ivnedar | this is most amusing |
| 11:20.37 | Ivnedar | Just logged into wow |
| 11:20.44 | Ivnedar | last time I logged in was june 2011 |
| 11:20.48 | Ivnedar | I have no idea what I'm doing! |
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| 14:58.15 | NuSuey | same thing.. Ivnedar started a new character just because of that |
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| 20:23.00 | Noshei | hey ZorbaTHut, any chance you can have daglar e-mail me? I just spent a decent amount of money on the rift store trying to complete an achievement for this Mech bullshit only to find out that the achievement is bugged. |
| 20:24.37 | Noshei | to say I am slightly pissed off right now would be a pretty massive understatement. |
| 20:32.28 | seebs | Gah. That's gonna suck. They're usually pretty good about Making Good on things that come about because of bugs, but highly resistant to anything too similar to refunds of credits because the accountants come sit on them. |
| 20:35.11 | Noshei | well I'm glad i have Scott Hartsmans e-mail from when I met him at PAX last year. |
| 20:35.22 | Noshei | Just sending him an e-mail directly. |
| 20:36.41 | seebs | He's pretty cool. |
| 20:36.52 | Noshei | yup |
| 20:37.10 | Noshei | I'm also guessing at daglars trion e-mail, based on what hartsmans is |
| 20:37.19 | Noshei | so we'll see what comes of this. |
| 20:37.42 | ZorbaTHut | noshei, not gonna be in until Monday, but if you haven't gotten a response by then I'll make sure it gets to someone appropriate |
| 20:37.49 | ZorbaTHut | although overall I don't think you'll have much trouble getting noticed :) |
| 20:38.32 | Noshei | well looks like fisher@trionworlds.com is not daglars e-mail, worth a try though |
| 20:38.59 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, scott's got a near-unique email format at the company :V |
| 20:39.26 | ZorbaTHut | what's the achievement, out of curiosity? |
| 20:39.41 | Noshei | Gott4 C4tch Th3m 4ll |
| 20:39.55 | Noshei | you have to collect the 8 pets from the mech event |
| 20:40.09 | Noshei | you can only get the pets from an item that can only be obtained from the store |
| 20:40.22 | ZorbaTHut | chances are good that even without GM interference, it'll autoaward the achievement once it's fixed. But definitely doesn't hurt to get the GMs aware of it too |
| 20:41.03 | Noshei | frankly I care more about the money that I seem to have wasted trying to obtain a bugged achievement |
| 20:41.19 | ZorbaTHut | the achievement will absolutely be awarded, no worries about that |
| 20:41.54 | Noshei | yeah, I dont doubt that, but will the multiple hundreds of dollars I sepnt be refunded. That is the big question. |
| 20:42.41 | ZorbaTHut | well . . . you did get the pets, and you will get the achievement, yes? |
| 20:43.37 | Noshei | well what I asked of scott in my e-mail is that everything after I received the final pet I needed (not counting the bugged one) be refunded. |
| 20:43.44 | ZorbaTHut | ah, that sounds fair |
| 20:43.59 | Noshei | yeah |
| 20:44.03 | ZorbaTHut | yeah I can't say anything for certain because I'm not a GM but they're generally pretty good at refunding stuff like that |
| 20:47.56 | ZorbaTHut | the logs definitely include info on exactly when you got the last pet, so it won't be hard to figure out the exact chain of events |
| 20:48.07 | Noshei | yeah |
| 20:50.42 | Noshei | I'm comfident that this Can be resolved to my satisfaction, but the question is if it Will be. |
| 20:55.39 | Noshei | ZorbaTHut: I just confirmed with someone else in my guild, that got the pet that caused the problem, it does not show as completed in the achievement. It shows a different one as being completed. |
| 20:56.25 | Noshei | Pwny 2.0 is the pet with an issue. It seems that for my guildie (only gotten the one pet) the achievement says she got the Motherboard pet. |
| 20:56.39 | ZorbaTHut | aha, that's totally believable |
| 20:57.11 | Noshei | yeah, it has happened many times before with other achievements, so perfectly likely here. |
| 20:57.29 | ZorbaTHut | kinda surprised QA didn't catch it, but hey, these things happen |
| 20:58.43 | Noshei | yeah certainly seems like something QA would check for, but your right, these things do happen. I just hope I'm the only one that it happens to, but that is doubtful |
| 20:59.51 | Noshei | oh and they seem to have gotten mobile working again, not sure if you saw my message about that |
| 21:00.23 | ZorbaTHut | didn't, but glad it's working :) I think we had some trouble with the android 4.4 launch |
| 21:00.45 | Noshei | ah |
| 21:21.08 | seebs | Noshei, is there a forum thread on the details of that bug? I wanted to warn some folks I know. |
| 21:21.20 | Noshei | I just posted one |
| 21:21.33 | Noshei | http://forums.riftgame.com/general-discussions/general-discussion/400698-g0tt4-c4tch-th3m-4ll-bugged.html |
| 21:25.15 | seebs | Huh. Mentioned it in-game, someone else got credit for Pwny 2.0, so... VARIETY! |
| 21:26.59 | Noshei | well I did see someone say you have to summon it to get credit, but that doesn't match up with what the achievement says, which is to collect them. |
| 21:27.21 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 21:28.48 | Noshei | though I'm not sure that would work either, because I was summoning each pet after I had gotten it. |
| 21:44.51 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder if there's two Pwny 2.0's somehow |
| 21:45.46 | seebs | BTW, Zorba, I wish to pass on a thing. |
| 21:45.55 | seebs | Which you may forward to any manager types you have, if it's relevant to them. |
| 21:46.31 | seebs | Which is that it is just *so* amazingly awesome, from my point of view, that I was able to decide to make sure my addons were prepped for upcoming changes, then ignore them for three months, and come back to a grand total of ZERO bug reports from updates. |
| 21:46.56 | ZorbaTHut | I admit that's partially just because I haven't been able to change the addon system at all :V but I'll definitely pass it along :) |
| 21:47.13 | seebs | Well, yeah, the busy thing is a disadvantage, but... |
| 21:47.40 | seebs | I remember patch day in WoW being a scramble to find half-guessed documentation on the wiki that suggested that maybe there was an event with a given name and we thought we knew what two of the event parameters were. |
| 21:48.00 | seebs | And going from that to six months of warning that a feature will likely be deprecated? VERY tolerable. |
| 21:48.47 | seebs | *thinks* I think I've got exactly two major things I want from the API now, which are (1) a working editable text object with slightly better-controlled features, and (2) access to chat, ideally both inbound and outbound. That would let me write the remaining addons I want to write. |
| 22:09.36 | ZorbaTHut | I vaguely recall that chat was the next feature I had planned. the text object is going to be painful, I've kinda been using my personal implementation to play around with theories on how it should work |
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| 22:31.09 | Noshei | lol |
| 22:31.50 | Noshei | ZorbaTHut: any plans to add a way to detect ability usage for abilities that dont do damage and have no cd? |
| 22:34.31 | Noshei | and more specifically, from other units |
| 22:40.46 | ZorbaTHut | sigh. cat. :P |
| 22:41.30 | ZorbaTHut | no immediate plans - it would be nice to do, but right now that effect just isn't sent down to the client in any way. it'd be a pretty serious set of changes in our gameplay code and that is, at this point, probably the only chunk of rift's codebase that I don't know extremely well |
| 22:41.54 | ZorbaTHut | I'm aware it would be a good thing but the cost/benefit calculation doesn't leave it at a high priority atm |
| 23:18.17 | seebs | Hmm. Hypothetically, Event.Ability.{Requested,Performed,Denied} or something like that to have events for "user has requested that an ability activate" and "server confirms". Although I can see why that wouldn't show up if nothing needed to be said. |
| 23:18.42 | seebs | The chat thing would let me make Chatterbox, which is one of the things I miss most. |
| 23:18.51 | seebs | The text objects would let me make the UI for Merisioux suck less. |
| 23:20.17 | seebs | For reference, the three things about RiftTextfield that make it problematic are (1) no wordwrapping (2) no way to query it for the height it wants to be to contain a given block of text (3) no font or even size setting. |
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