| 00:00.03 | Ivnedar | wow, the discovery data doesn't seem to be updating |
| 00:00.07 | Ivnedar | last published november 8th? |
| 00:19.59 | Noshei | Ivnedar: I dont think it was latency on your end, trove is super laggy for me |
| 00:20.09 | Ivnedar | interesting |
| 00:20.27 | Ivnedar | have you ever seen a different player count between alpha and local servers? |
| 00:20.36 | Ivnedar | seemed oddly consistent |
| 00:20.59 | Noshei | yeah always the same |
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| 03:44.38 | Noshei | Ivnedar: we started on volan tonight, so I will most likely have a file for that this weekend |
| 03:47.20 | Ivnedar | cool :) |
| 03:47.45 | Ivnedar | I think Kekoas put in a template for that one at least |
| 03:53.18 | Noshei | yup |
| 03:55.36 | Ivnedar | update the UTID to stop the template mode stuff |
| 03:55.55 | Ivnedar | well, all of the UTIDs |
| 04:07.51 | Noshei | got those |
| 04:15.59 | Noshei | Ivnedar: if all I want is mechanic spy for a debuff, but no alert, what do I need? |
| 04:31.27 | Noshei | Ivnedar: next question |
| 04:32.03 | Noshei | actually nevermind, I thought of a fight I can look at for an example |
| 04:42.35 | Noshei | Ivnedar: for some reason a debuff im tracking with mechanic spy isn't being removed when the debuff is cleansed off someone |
| 04:42.38 | Noshei | ideas? |
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| 04:53.45 | Ivnedar | you need a debuff removal trigger too |
| 04:54.52 | Ivnedar | have a look at curse and torment on goloch |
| 04:55.02 | Ivnedar | there's Triggers.Curse and Triggers.CurseRem |
| 04:56.02 | Ivnedar | the mechspy gets the duration of the debuff when it activates, but it doesn't monitor that the debuff is still there |
| 04:56.19 | Ivnedar | so you need a trigger on playerBuffRemove for that debuff to remove the mechspy |
| 05:01.42 | Noshei | ok ill take a look |
| 05:12.16 | Noshei | Ivnedar: can you take a look http://pastebin.com/sKZ1AKEb |
| 05:12.46 | Noshei | I thought I had the playerBuffRemove in there correctly, but it didn't work |
| 05:13.14 | Ivnedar | so you're doing it as an alert? |
| 05:13.32 | Noshei | oh I see |
| 05:13.36 | Ivnedar | you're starting up a mechspy |
| 05:13.38 | Ivnedar | then stopping an alert :D |
| 05:14.05 | Noshei | yeah |
| 05:14.45 | Noshei | I never did get that debuf id unfortunately |
| 05:15.04 | Ivnedar | next time gadget, next time! |
| 05:15.13 | Noshei | probably not |
| 05:15.26 | Noshei | I dont have time to look to see if I have it cause I have to cleanse it |
| 05:15.35 | Ivnedar | I could probably bundle something up to record whole encounters |
| 05:15.51 | Noshei | that would be massive |
| 05:16.16 | Ivnedar | I'm doing it with a bunch of adhoc addons as it is |
| 05:16.27 | Noshei | now I just need to add other mechanics |
| 05:16.28 | Ivnedar | one of them records every cast/channel of every boss I have in a white list |
| 05:16.42 | Noshei | wow, nice |
| 05:16.45 | Ivnedar | including the time since that ability was last cast, the time since I went into combat, who cast it, the ability id if it exists |
| 05:16.56 | Ivnedar | buff/debuff timings, etc |
| 05:17.04 | Ivnedar | my general chat tab is useless while raiding :D |
| 05:17.10 | Noshei | lol |
| 05:17.35 | Ivnedar | another one tracks every buff/debuff is sees and dumps out the detail of it |
| 05:17.36 | Noshei | I'll have to go over my stream to see if volans abilities are on timers. I think most of them are |
| 05:17.58 | Ivnedar | it's amazing how much useful information can be in the description of a debuff that's up for 1s and can never be mouseovered and read in time :P |
| 05:18.20 | Noshei | yeah i bet |
| 05:18.24 | Ivnedar | oh, for each cast, it also records caster's %hp and focus target %hp |
| 05:18.35 | Ivnedar | so I can be tracking a main boss while also monitoring a minibos |
| 05:18.36 | Ivnedar | s |
| 05:19.02 | Noshei | I bet the devs put a lot of detail on the description of debuffs that are only up for 1s |
| 05:19.09 | Noshei | just to be mean |
| 05:19.11 | Ivnedar | yeah :D |
| 05:19.30 | Ivnedar | "what's that debuff?" "I'll check" <wall of text vanishes> "damnit, maybe next time" |
| 05:20.53 | Ivnedar | "This debuff will cause immense suffering to the raid if it is not cleansed off before it drops off. It will also wipe the raid if it is cleansed off within the first 2s of it being applied. Have fun" |
| 05:20.58 | Ivnedar | etc |
| 05:21.15 | Ivnedar | and it's a 3-4s debuff :D |
| 05:21.38 | Ivnedar | If that appears in the next raid tier, it's not my fault! |
| 05:22.21 | Noshei | oh you haven't done volan have you? |
| 05:22.28 | Ivnedar | nope, but I know that debuff |
| 05:22.37 | Ivnedar | "Who cleansed???" |
| 05:22.48 | Noshei | yeah kinda |
| 05:23.30 | Noshei | so he puts a 20s debuff on 6 people, and when it is cleansed or the full 20s runs out it explodes dealing 12-19k dmg to the raid |
| 05:23.54 | Ivnedar | yup, it's what I based my wall of text on, just tweaked the timers |
| 05:23.55 | Noshei | so it has to be cleansed, but in a controlled manner. |
| 05:24.05 | Ivnedar | it was more the wall of text that was the point of it |
| 05:24.06 | Noshei | ah |
| 05:24.17 | Noshei | yeah |
| 05:24.38 | Noshei | can I do an alert based on a boss emote? |
| 05:24.44 | Ivnedar | yup |
| 05:24.54 | Ivnedar | trigger type is either say or notify |
| 05:25.02 | Ivnedar | say if it's white text, notify if it's yellow text |
| 05:25.07 | Ivnedar | most emotes are notify |
| 05:25.17 | Noshei | yeah it is |
| 05:25.27 | Noshei | any good examples? |
| 05:25.48 | Noshei | it is a one person alert |
| 05:25.59 | Ivnedar | and you want to know who the person is in the mechspy? |
| 05:26.06 | Ivnedar | and make a personal alert if it's you? |
| 05:26.13 | Noshei | yes |
| 05:26.53 | Noshei | not sure if there is a debuff to track for it, but I'll check my stream |
| 05:27.36 | Ivnedar | I'm trying to remember when I would have used it last |
| 05:27.41 | Ivnedar | ID or something maybe |
| 05:28.09 | Ivnedar | aha, PF |
| 05:28.18 | Ivnedar | khargorth fight |
| 05:28.40 | Ivnedar | "The Crawler Juggernaut chases after (%a*)!" |
| 05:28.50 | Noshei | yeah something like that |
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| 05:29.02 | Ivnedar | with the trigger/alert/mechspy to go with it at the bottom |
| 05:29.43 | Noshei | ok cool, I'll take a look at that |
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| 05:30.11 | Ivnedar | wb steve |
| 05:30.49 | Noshei | well darn no debuff or anything |
| 05:31.44 | Ardoth | So, am I safe in assuming there is no support for socket.http? Was thinking of building an add-on that connects to a web app I use to manage loot lists. |
| 05:32.22 | Ivnedar | correct |
| 05:33.46 | Ardoth | Bleh. So I'll have to do something similar to kalerts and just paste in an exported copy of the lists, manage them locally, then export them back to the app manually... No fun. |
| 05:34.16 | Noshei | Ivnedar: how would I modify the phase monitor to work correctly with the unit type id's? Looks like I need to change something |
| 05:35.26 | Ivnedar | Do you have the right UTID for each part? |
| 05:36.04 | Noshei | yes |
| 05:36.21 | Ivnedar | what's it doing wrong? |
| 05:36.46 | Noshei | sits at 100% for everything |
| 05:39.23 | Ivnedar | hrrm, I can't see how it'd get through that code without tying the unitID to the BossObj |
| 05:39.57 | Ivnedar | worked ok before you put the ids in? |
| 05:40.45 | Noshei | I honestly dont remember |
| 05:42.30 | Ivnedar | the encounter won't start unless it matches a unit by type id or name, once it's matched that, there's no exit path that doesn't tie the unitID to that boss |
| 05:42.47 | Ivnedar | trying to think of a reason it wouldn't work anymore |
| 05:43.01 | Ivnedar | unless there aren't any damage events for those units |
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| 05:43.55 | Ivnedar | Ardoth_: yeah, pretty much. You'd need something that would read and write the saved variables file from outside the game while the game's not running, then an app inside to read it |
| 05:43.59 | Ivnedar | oh well |
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| 05:45.37 | Noshei | well the actual volan unit isn't active until phase 2 I think, only the right and left legs in phase 1. But I have id's for all 3 |
| 05:46.36 | Ivnedar | which version of kbm? 1.5.5 release? |
| 05:46.52 | Ivnedar | maybe I'm looking at a different version |
| 05:47.02 | Noshei | 1.5.5.758 |
| 05:49.05 | Ivnedar | hrrm, all looks correct |
| 05:49.15 | Ivnedar | does combat log for damage to the legs look sensible? |
| 05:50.46 | Noshei | yes |
| 05:52.05 | Noshei | maybe it has an issue because volan is the unit doing the damage, but isn't a targetable or attackable unit? |
| 05:52.13 | Ivnedar | that's what I'm wondering |
| 05:54.20 | Ivnedar | It is treating the legs as seperate bosses, so should track any damage to/from them |
| 05:55.15 | Ivnedar | Buf if all the raid damage comes from volan, not the legs, and all raid damage is done to volan, but passed onto the legs, then that would confuse kbm a fair bit I think |
| 05:55.21 | Ivnedar | it'd never see the legs as part of the encounter |
| 05:55.34 | Noshei | well no the damage isn't done to volan |
| 05:55.39 | Noshei | it is done to the legs directly |
| 05:56.10 | Noshei | incoming to the raid is from volan |
| 05:58.58 | Ivnedar | before the line BossObj.UnitID = unitID put in if BossObj.UnitID ~= unitID then print(string.format("Boss UnitID for %s is now %s", BossObj.Name, unitID)) end |
| 05:59.11 | Ivnedar | make sure the unitIDs are being put onto the legs ok |
| 05:59.35 | Noshei | that pastebin like i sent you had the unit ids in it |
| 05:59.58 | Ivnedar | those are the unit types |
| 06:00.04 | Ivnedar | ids are unique instances of them |
| 06:00.07 | Ivnedar | will be different every fight |
| 06:00.12 | Ivnedar | it's what the phasemon uses to track them |
| 06:00.13 | Noshei | oh i need the unit ids as well? |
| 06:00.32 | Noshei | oh ok |
| 06:01.41 | Ivnedar | the phasemon won't do anything until it has unitIDs added to the BossObj to track |
| 06:01.58 | Ivnedar | and if for some reason, that's not being added in, then it'd explain what's happening |
| 06:02.11 | Ivnedar | encounter would start by the first damage hit to/from volan |
| 06:02.22 | Ivnedar | but then ignore everything else |
| 06:03.11 | Ivnedar | if everything's working, you'll get 3 lines of output, one for each unit |
| 06:03.22 | Ivnedar | if you only see volan, then yeah, legs aren't being picked up |
| 06:06.19 | Noshei | not getting any output |
| 06:07.31 | Ivnedar | scratches head |
| 06:07.36 | Ivnedar | so it's not picking up any of them |
| 06:08.00 | Noshei | I think, maybe |
| 06:09.51 | Noshei | put that if check in function VOL:UnitHPCheck(uDetails, unitID)? right? |
| 06:10.04 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 06:11.00 | Ivnedar | for the encounter to start at all, it must hit that function |
| 06:11.06 | Ivnedar | and there's no way out of it without hitting that bottom bit |
| 06:12.14 | Noshei | yeah I see no encounter start, maybe I made a type somewhere |
| 06:12.27 | Ivnedar | oh, it's not starting at all? |
| 06:12.27 | Ivnedar | ok |
| 06:12.53 | Noshei | http://pastebin.com/7xGp4bDm |
| 06:13.03 | Noshei | not sure right now, sec ill check |
| 06:13.53 | Noshei | yeah didnt start, I must have a typo somewhere |
| 06:15.09 | Ivnedar | does the encounter show up in the kbm menu? |
| 06:15.38 | Noshei | yes, but timers and alerts are greyed out |
| 06:15.44 | Noshei | and triggers |
| 06:16.18 | Ivnedar | nothing you added? |
| 06:16.36 | Ivnedar | and you've reloaded ui and are editing the right copy of the file etc? |
| 06:16.48 | Noshei | yes |
| 06:16.49 | Ivnedar | (sorry to ask :P) |
| 06:17.15 | Noshei | no problem |
| 06:17.24 | Noshei | I understand troubleshooting |
| 06:17.55 | Noshei | no errors either |
| 06:18.11 | Ivnedar | add an error to the file on purpose and see that it errors |
| 06:18.25 | seebs | Din't someone, maybe Zorba, recommend some particular utility, maybe an Intel one, for graphics card monitoring once? |
| 06:18.31 | Ivnedar | intel gpa |
| 06:18.44 | seebs | I have an issue involving *something* in my system, which I am about 70% sure is a fan, that only makes an annoying noise under load, sporadically. |
| 06:19.04 | seebs | I really mostly need a fan monitor, probably. |
| 06:19.16 | Ivnedar | oh, gpa was to analyse frame generation stuff |
| 06:19.35 | seebs | Ahh, nevermind then. |
| 06:19.50 | Ivnedar | like being able to switch rift into wireframe mode |
| 06:19.56 | Ivnedar | or inverting all sorts of funky things |
| 06:20.40 | Noshei | I just added an open ended function call and that got an error after reloadui |
| 06:21.32 | Ivnedar | that's good :D |
| 06:22.23 | Noshei | looking back at my stream and the phase monitor didnt show up until a good 30 seconds into the fight |
| 06:22.59 | Noshei | it did start updating the hp, but that was about about 1 min+ into the fight |
| 06:23.19 | Ivnedar | so the unit id assignment is being horribly delayed for some reason |
| 06:23.41 | Ivnedar | did it coincide with someone failing a mechanic that had been avoided up until then? |
| 06:23.55 | Noshei | not that I could see |
| 06:24.12 | Noshei | wasn't the first damage to me or anyone else |
| 06:24.16 | Ivnedar | *nod* |
| 06:24.37 | Noshei | could it have something to do with the fact that volan is targetable before the fight, but not once you start |
| 06:24.50 | Ivnedar | maybe, but there have been fights like that before |
| 06:25.10 | Noshei | yeah |
| 06:25.25 | Ivnedar | ooh, I don't suppose you drop out of combat after it starts? |
| 06:25.32 | Ivnedar | like kain fight in tdq |
| 06:25.35 | Noshei | I shouldn't |
| 06:25.42 | Noshei | let me check stream again |
| 06:26.08 | Ivnedar | 'cause kbm will ignore a unit that it has seen before if the encounter has reset for some reason |
| 06:26.26 | Ivnedar | so it may see all the units, assign them, then know that it's seen them before, so when the encounter resets, it ignores them |
| 06:26.42 | Ivnedar | that was added in for clone boss in golem foundry and progenitor in ee |
| 06:26.48 | Noshei | nope, in combat the entire time |
| 06:26.52 | Ivnedar | ok |
| 06:29.58 | Noshei | so just looking at this I noticed that phase monitor showed up when the Left leg first showed up on my add monitor |
| 06:30.59 | Ivnedar | so it wasn't a valid unit up until that point? |
| 06:31.55 | Noshei | ok some how I had the wront type id in for the right leg |
| 06:32.13 | Ivnedar | do they become active at different times? |
| 06:32.20 | Noshei | it was way off, no |
| 06:32.29 | Noshei | about to test with correct type id |
| 06:32.53 | Noshei | same time, but we only attack one leg at a time, so no one had left leg targeted |
| 06:33.16 | Ivnedar | ah, yeah, that's one of the sucky bits, unless the unit shows up on your unit list, it won't get tracked |
| 06:33.53 | Ivnedar | toss a single ranged hit at the other leg? or would that cause issues? |
| 06:37.44 | Ivnedar | well, heading home, should be online again in 10-15 mins, bbl |
| 06:37.54 | Noshei | looks like it was just the type id |
| 06:38.16 | Noshei | corrected that and spy worked correctly, so the alert should as well I'm assuming |
| 06:41.11 | Noshei | Ivnedar: Thanks for the help |
| 06:55.31 | Ivnedar | nps :) |
| 07:20.48 | Ardoth | Anyone have an example of how to hook into when a SimpleWindow is closed? I had a button the I used to close it but I'd rather use the default close button instead. |
| 07:23.09 | Ivnedar | looks like the Close() function on it is called when it's closed |
| 07:23.18 | Ivnedar | so implement that I guess |
| 07:24.15 | Ivnedar | rw:SetCloseButtonVisible(true) |
| 07:24.29 | Ivnedar | function rw:Close() do stuff in here end |
| 07:24.55 | Ivnedar | assuming rw is your simplewindow |
| 07:25.06 | Ardoth | Ah ok, thanks. Wasn't sure if it was in Event or not (only ever used buttons to do stuff) |
| 07:30.06 | Ardoth | Simple test of it doesn't seem to work. function listWindow:Close() print("Closing...") end Time to dig through other addons to see if I can figure it out :p |
| 07:31.19 | Ivnedar | oh, sorry, looks like it's rw.Event.Close() that you want to implement |
| 07:31.41 | Ardoth | Heh, that was what I was going to try first, thought I was headed down the wrong path :-p |
| 07:32.21 | Ivnedar | I made the mistake of believing the doco instead of the code :D |
| 07:32.21 | Ardoth | Perfect, works now. Thanks :) |
| 13:39.40 | Ivnedar | hee hee, carnage book is finally starting to look like a book |
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| 18:53.25 | Ardoth | Ok, after an hour of looking, I'm at a loss. What do i need to add to enable copy/paste in a SimpleTextArea? |
| 18:55.39 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 18:55.48 | seebs | I don't remember, but I think it works in RiftRC, so you could look at that. |
| 18:57.21 | Ardoth | I'll go look, thanks |
| 19:03.42 | Ardoth | RiftRC is using the default Text frame. I guess I'll just go ahead and use the default frames rather than the SimpleTextArea. I know that copy/paste works fine with those. |
| 19:04.49 | seebs | ... Oh, I see. I don't think I know what SimpleTextArea is, and it's been long enough that I thought it was basic Text. |
| 19:05.04 | seebs | Actually, I think I have some Text and some TextArea, and the latter are full of DIRE MAGIC to overcome key limitations. |
| 19:05.17 | seebs | For instance, there's no way to determine actual line height from them. You just have to experiment until you find out. |
| 19:07.31 | Ardoth | The SimpleTextArea is part of LibSimpleWidgets. And it looks like copy paste is not working even in the default text frames. Time to start experimenting till I figure out the key codes... |
| 19:08.16 | Ardoth | I know KaruulAlert has a text area that you can paste into, but trying to dig through that code gives me headaches. |
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| 20:03.43 | seebs | I don't think I did anything to enable copying and pasting. There's two things: Text and TextField. |
| 20:03.50 | seebs | Or, I think, Text, and RiftTextfield. Or something. |
| 20:03.57 | seebs | And the latter actually supports copying and pasting. |
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| 20:58.56 | ZorbaTHut | I believe that's true, yeah |
| 20:59.01 | ZorbaTHut | there's no way to select anything from Text |
| 20:59.11 | ZorbaTHut | (gone for a bit, tech working on phone line, back in a few) |
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| 21:20.31 | Ardoth | Well that was irritating. Seems my copy paste issue was actually an issue with running Rift within WINE. It threw me off because I could paste into chat but not addons. Works fine when running in Windows. |
| 21:22.04 | seebs | Weird. |
| 21:25.01 | Ardoth | Yeah |
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| 23:35.43 | ZorbaTHut | why can't someone just invent an internet connection that is infinitely fast |
| 23:36.26 | seebs | *thinks* |
| 23:36.41 | seebs | I think strictly speaking you just did, it's just that the implementation is hard. |