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| 01:46.57 | Noshei | hey ZorbaTHut when should I expect to hear about trove? |
| 02:47.49 | ZorbaTHut | the official word is "weeks, not months". if I knew more detail I couldn't tell you, but I don't know any more detail ;) |
| 02:48.07 | Imhothar__ | I know I asked this already but... trove? |
| 02:48.36 | ZorbaTHut | imhothar, http://www.trovegame.com/ |
| 02:49.22 | Imhothar__ | is that your thing? |
| 02:49.23 | ZorbaTHut | if you want a friends-and-family invite /msg me your email address and name |
| 02:49.26 | ZorbaTHut | nah, I'm still on Rift |
| 02:49.30 | ZorbaTHut | I'm just plugging it 'cause it looks cool :V |
| 02:49.35 | Imhothar__ | your spare-time thing? |
| 02:49.46 | ZorbaTHut | nope, it's an official trion project |
| 02:49.58 | Imhothar__ | ah indeed |
| 02:50.47 | Ivnedar | looks like it was a spare time thing of 1-2 people in trion that got expanded to an official thing with 11 people |
| 02:51.43 | ZorbaTHut | "spare time" is a little inaccurate - we had an official "pitch an idea and if we like it we'll let you and maybe a friend work on it full-time for a month" period |
| 02:51.52 | Ivnedar | oh sweet :D |
| 02:52.28 | Ivnedar | I was going off the impression the video and reddit thread gave |
| 02:52.35 | Ivnedar | pretty awesome that they do that though |
| 02:52.54 | ZorbaTHut | it was definitely a side project, in the sense that if it didn't pan out they'd end up back on their original project, but no requirement to spend extra hours on it |
| 02:53.01 | ZorbaTHut | although I think some people did anyway because game industry |
| 02:53.51 | Ivnedar | If work stuff is something I enjoy, I continue doing it outside of work hours without even thinking about it |
| 02:53.57 | Ivnedar | I imagine the same applies there ;) |
| 02:54.22 | ZorbaTHut | yeah pretty much :) I generally end up working on my own stuff, but once in a while I've said "oh man I want this to work let's just stay a bit longer" |
| 02:55.26 | Imhothar__ | ironically when the "let's stay a big longer" thing happens at our place it usually ends up in a bar after we're done |
| 02:55.37 | Ivnedar | I do it at home, easier :) |
| 02:55.45 | Imhothar__ | hmm actually that's not very ironic |
| 02:55.50 | Imhothar__ | but awesome |
| 02:57.15 | Imhothar__ | so what makes this one special? |
| 02:57.54 | Imhothar__ | I've never played these minecraft looking blockoland games |
| 02:58.28 | ZorbaTHut | here's a bit of a prelim explanation: http://www.reddit.com/r/Trove/comments/1qojcx/who_are_we_why_are_we_making_this_game_and_why/ |
| 02:58.51 | ZorbaTHut | as I understand it, one of the big differences is that it's *not* a single persistent world, it's intended that you "complete" worlds and travel to a new world on a regular basis (keeping your buildings and supplies) |
| 02:59.14 | ZorbaTHut | it's also not based around the dig-in-every-direction-to-farm-materials model that most of the current voxel-based games are |
| 02:59.46 | ZorbaTHut | finally it's MMO-style so you can visit your friends easily (although worlds are more like large instances - currently targeting 40 players per world, apparently) |
| 03:05.21 | Imhothar__ | ok, most important questions: is the UI written in Lua and can we hack it? ;) |
| 03:07.33 | Imhothar__ | but I should probably spend more time on my own stuff now |
| 03:12.22 | ZorbaTHut | no and no, at the moment. Sorry :) |
| 03:12.57 | Imhothar__ | "at the moment", so they then add member 12 to their team to shoehorn Lua into the existing system |
| 03:12.58 | Imhothar__ | yay |
| 03:13.42 | ZorbaTHut | if it's me, I'm gonna insist that they rewrite the damn UI in Lua :P |
| 03:13.55 | Imhothar__ | need a petition? |
| 03:14.24 | ZorbaTHut | I wouldn't be able to move to Trove right now anyway, so, don't worry about it. Wait for it to be released ;) |
| 03:17.11 | seebs | Google+, so classy: I am permasuspended because they don't like my name. You can no longer change your settings when suspended. So, for instance, you can't opt out of mail. |
| 03:17.27 | seebs | Nor can you post requests on the help forums, or contact the privacy people, because those also require non-suspended accounts. |
| 03:17.43 | Imhothar__ | Google+ is fellony |
| 03:17.48 | Imhothar__ | *is a |
| 03:18.05 | Imhothar__ | felony even |
| 03:23.28 | Imhothar__ | it's great how they're acting ignorant of the youtube integration disaster |
| 03:25.39 | Imhothar__ | ZorbaTHutdo you still do your coding streams? |
| 03:25.54 | Imhothar__ | ZorbaTHut |
| 03:26.31 | seebs | I am just impressed because I think they are now sending mail that actually violates US anti-spam laws, and that's fairly hard to do. |
| 03:31.09 | Ivnedar | seebs: report them :D |
| 03:33.32 | seebs | Surprisingly hard to do once you get up to Google. Who would you report them *to*? |
| 03:33.54 | Ivnedar | are you covered by the eu privacy stuff? |
| 03:33.56 | Ivnedar | or are you us? |
| 03:33.59 | Ivnedar | forgets |
| 03:35.20 | seebs | US. |
| 03:35.26 | seebs | Which is to say, no privacy stuff to speak of. |
| 03:37.36 | Ivnedar | ah, CAN-SPAM doesn't look like it gives you much |
| 03:38.45 | Ivnedar | make another g+ account for the sole purpose of getting the other one fixed? |
| 03:38.54 | Ivnedar | or give up and put in a filter :D |
| 03:48.54 | seebs | Eh, I know some people. I may be able to make this fun or amusing. |
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| 06:13.08 | Ivnedar | well, that sucks, the extra life codes that got sent out are single use, but sent to multiple people by the looks of it |
| 07:06.24 | Amadeus- | ( ZorbaTHut ) I wouldn't be able to move to Trove right now anyway, so, don't worry about it. Wait for it to be released ;) |
| 07:06.55 | Amadeus- | ^ call me a cynic, but I think that Rift still has more money left in it than Trove. |
| 07:07.52 | Amadeus- | I hate to be negative, but I'm not sure I think Trove will do that well, even if it's done REALLY well. That market is kindof saturated and I think people are moving past it on to other things. Competing with EQ Landmark may be difficult. |
| 07:08.04 | Amadeus- | but, I could be wrong. |
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| 14:24.24 | ZorbaTHut | amadeus, I would agree that the market for Minecraft clones has been saturated. I'd also say that Trove is only vaguely a Minecraft clone. It's built on the same basic concepts, but goes in drastically different directions with them. I'm optimistic for it, personally :) |
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| 21:16.29 | Imhothar | interesting, Google has now a lawsuit in Berlin going due to it's TOS being too vague or illegally restrict the users' rights |
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| 21:19.13 | Imhothar | Germany must be a big thorn in the flesh of these big companies |
| 21:32.00 | seebs | Yes. Which is pretty awesome of Germany. |
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