| 00:59.33 | Amadeus- | Torhal, honestly, I stopped playing FFXI after a couple hours because of the lack of fast travel ....it's fine having to run the first time ...but the 100th time i don't care about the scenery anymore. |
| 01:00.18 | Amadeus- | it was 100% the reason I quit ...time is too important to spend so much of it just running from one point to another ...i wanted to play the game. |
| 01:01.23 | Amadeus- | Scenery is cool the first time ..but after that, I'd just as soon instantly go from one gaming experience to another ...seeing the same things (even if they're "dynamic") doesn't appeal to me ....same as driving in real life. If I had the choice between driving to work and teleporting to work.... hehe. |
| 01:15.00 | seebs | Sadly, my old machine didn't have logs, I guess because I hadn't gotten that habit yet when I was using that machine. |
| 01:15.27 | seebs | But I didn't have anything else going on tonight so I figured I'd accumulate some representative 1-29 logs to datamine. |
| 01:57.20 | fewyn | trooooove |
| 01:59.13 | Noshei | ^sigh |
| 02:11.17 | seebs | I am fascinated by the game concept, and so on. |
| 02:14.39 | seebs | Ultimately, though, while I really love a lot of what Trion does as a company, and I think their game design and such are fascinating... |
| 02:15.02 | seebs | I can't see myself intentionally going into an MMO they run unless they adopt some kind of policy under which there exist limits to what behavior will be tolerated. |
| 02:16.23 | Amadeus- | there has been information released about Trove? |
| 02:16.36 | Amadeus- | ah..I see it |
| 02:16.58 | Amadeus- | meh..I'm not a minecraft type. |
| 02:32.00 | Amadeus- | people are not gentle in the comments: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/15/trion-announces-trove-a-world-building-rpg |
| 02:36.07 | fewyn | http://www.reddit.com/r/Trove/comments/1qqi89/zam_network_the_folks_that_brought_you_rifthead/ |
| 07:15.47 | Ivnedar_ | so trove is landmark? |
| 07:26.32 | Noshei | what Ivnedar_? |
| 07:26.46 | Noshei | trove is basically trions take on minecraft |
| 07:29.00 | Ivnedar_ | ahh, hartsman wanted a cube world game, cool :) |
| 07:38.27 | seebs | Supposedly, some employees started doing it on the side, so it wasn't a planned thing exactly. |
| 07:38.44 | seebs | Looks interesting, but basically there's no way I'll bother if we can't see some kind of action on the in-game abuse problems. |
| 07:39.56 | Ivnedar_ | heh heh, I like the naming decision board |
| 07:42.00 | Ivnedar_ | overloadut, morgana and dahanese are part of the team by the look of it |
| 07:42.03 | Ivnedar_ | at least part of naming it |
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| 08:02.18 | Ivnedar | hooray, I lost my tail! :D |
| 08:04.41 | Noshei | why not just type /nick Ivnedar ? |
| 08:04.47 | Noshei | that would have lost it as well |
| 08:05.01 | Ivnedar | too much effort |
| 08:05.07 | Noshei | lol |
| 08:05.23 | Ivnedar | that and no matter how I do it, it always changes my nick on the wrong network :) |
| 08:05.29 | Noshei | I know it has only been a day, buy you get any chance to work on that thrax stuff? |
| 08:05.50 | Ivnedar | I've got something, I can put it up. Completely untested though |
| 08:07.18 | Ivnedar | once I get back from grabbing dinner! |
| 08:19.32 | Noshei | as long as it doesnt cause a ton of errors |
| 08:21.13 | Noshei | which I'm guessing it wont, since (again guessing) most of the code is stuff that is used a lot in the addon. |
| 08:32.29 | Ivnedar | I haven't put in anything special, no phase tracking etc |
| 08:32.48 | Ivnedar | so should be fine, that's usually where the errors kick in since it's pretty open to errors there |
| 09:01.16 | Ivnedar | http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/kbm-public-encounters/files/42-r44/ |
| 09:01.51 | Ivnedar | You'll need to update RiftAddon.toc too |
| 09:02.12 | Ivnedar | "Raids/Storm Legion/Planebreaker Bastion/PBHeader.lua", |
| 09:02.25 | Ivnedar | "Raids/Storm Legion/Planebreaker Bastion/Eggtenders.lua", |
| 09:02.30 | Ivnedar | "Raids/Storm Legion/Planebreaker Bastion/Thrax.lua", |
| 09:04.55 | Ivnedar | drop in the Planebreaker Bastion folder into whatever version you're using now |
| 09:07.36 | Noshei | ok got it, and no errors at least when loading rift. I won't be able to test in the fight until sunday though. |
| 09:07.44 | Ivnedar | no probs |
| 09:07.52 | Ivnedar | encounter starts without errors, so should be fine |
| 09:07.56 | Noshei | Thanks for putting that together |
| 09:08.07 | Ivnedar | I'll see what else I can add in |
| 09:09.10 | Ivnedar | should have tank swap, personal alert for chain gang debuff and mech spy to see who has it, screen alert for rockslide casting, screen alert for execution casting |
| 09:09.29 | Ivnedar | and timer for greater techtonic transference |
| 09:09.43 | Ivnedar | 100s timer on those, so adjust it to match whever you see in game |
| 09:10.11 | Ivnedar | dark green for chain game, red for rockslide, orange for execution |
| 09:10.30 | Noshei | 100s sounds about right, though it did vary a bit based on what he was doing when the 100s was up. |
| 09:10.51 | Ivnedar | I put in whatever the minimum I've seen is when I do them |
| 09:10.56 | Noshei | thought the greater techtonic transference doesn't start until he hits 70% |
| 09:10.58 | Ivnedar | so you know to expect it soon when the timer is up |
| 09:11.07 | Ivnedar | yeah, the timer starts when it sees the first one |
| 09:11.12 | Ivnedar | so you're on your own for the 70% one :( |
| 09:11.13 | Noshei | ah ok |
| 09:11.25 | Ivnedar | can't really guess at a timer for when you'll hit 70% |
| 09:12.08 | Noshei | yeah |
| 09:13.40 | Ivnedar | hrrm, looks like I put in rockslide as purple, then created it as red, must have changed my mind midway |
| 09:14.21 | Noshei | is there a way to display an alert at a certain point in the bosses cast? |
| 09:15.24 | Ivnedar | yeah, like a flashing alert with 5s to go type thing? |
| 09:15.24 | Noshei | when greater techtonic transference reaches a certain point you have to move to the side or you will die within a couple seconds. |
| 09:16.15 | Noshei | if you looked at the videos at all and remember the part where you people jumped really high |
| 09:16.20 | Ivnedar | yup |
| 09:16.22 | Noshei | that is greater techtonic transference |
| 09:16.40 | Noshei | he sends out 5 sets of laser beams |
| 09:17.14 | Noshei | the first 4 you either dont have to do anything for or you can jump over. The 5th one you have to move out of the way of or you will die |
| 09:18.54 | Noshei | let me see if I can see the exact amount of time left on his cast when you have to move. |
| 09:21.33 | Noshei | so it looks like greater techtonic transference is a cast up and a channel down |
| 09:21.56 | Noshei | the cast up warns you to get out, then the actual mechanic starts once that finishes. |
| 09:22.17 | Ivnedar | so screen alert while it's casting |
| 09:22.24 | Noshei | the channel down is 21 seconds long. At 5 seconds left you have to move left or right. |
| 09:25.12 | Noshei | yeah |
| 09:25.48 | Ivnedar | so if I put in a timer for 16s that starts at the start of the channel and a screen alert at the end of that, it'd work? |
| 09:26.26 | Noshei | yeah I think so |
| 09:32.38 | Ivnedar | ok, so when the channel starts, screen alert says move soon for 16s, then says move now and flashes for 5s |
| 09:33.57 | Noshei | I would have the move soon be the 5 seconds before the move now, because there is another mechanic going on during that 16s |
| 09:35.14 | Ivnedar | hrrm, wonder if I can make a hidden timer |
| 09:36.48 | Ivnedar | or, make a normal timer for 11s, that triggers an alert at the end, that triggers another alert at the end |
| 09:36.51 | Ivnedar | that'd work |
| 09:40.01 | Ivnedar | ok, channel starting on greater tectonic transference triggers a 11s timer saying move soon, that ending triggers a 5s screen alert saying move soon, that ending triggers a flashing screen alert saying move now |
| 09:40.06 | Ivnedar | that work? |
| 09:40.27 | Ivnedar | I could change the text of that first timer |
| 09:45.27 | Noshei | I think that will work |
| 09:45.58 | Noshei | I may play with the timing a bit, but I'll have to see how it feels during the fight. |
| 09:47.07 | Noshei | you have almost exactly 2 seconds to move at that point or you will die. |
| 09:48.17 | Ivnedar | http://rift.curseforge.com/addons/kbm-public-encounters/files/43-r45/ |
| 09:50.09 | Ivnedar | on the bright side, doesn't immediately fail when fight starts |
| 09:50.34 | Noshei | well thats good |
| 09:54.23 | Ivnedar | apologies in advance if it breaks midfight :) |
| 09:56.37 | Noshei | it happens |
| 09:56.47 | Ivnedar | too often! :) |
| 09:56.56 | Ivnedar | usually I'm writing them in the couple of minutes between pulls |
| 09:57.04 | Ivnedar | so happens much more frequently then |
| 09:58.19 | Noshei | so it seems that you get a a buff about 1 scond before he starts casting greater techtonic transference |
| 09:58.51 | Noshei | not sure if that might be useful in some way. The buff is what allows you to jump really high. |
| 09:59.12 | Ivnedar | yeah, I prefer to tie triggers to things that have ids exposed |
| 09:59.16 | Ivnedar | buffs and unit types |
| 09:59.26 | Ivnedar | saves on translation headaches |
| 09:59.43 | Noshei | the buff is called Gravity Flux |
| 10:01.54 | Noshei | starts with a 35s duration, but it looks like it just goes away when it reaches 9s left (about 2 seconds before greater techtonic transference channel ends). |
| 10:02.47 | Noshei | got a good way to pull buff id's mid fight? |
| 10:03.13 | Ivnedar | I run an addon that prints out every buff that it's never seen before |
| 10:03.39 | Noshei | interesting |
| 10:04.07 | Ivnedar | Not so practical to run normally, but works for data gathering |
| 10:04.22 | Noshei | mind sending me a link to it and ill get the info for that buff |
| 10:04.24 | Noshei | ? |
| 10:05.47 | Ivnedar | you can also run /kbmbuffs |
| 10:05.59 | Ivnedar | and it'll dump out a list of all the buffs on yourself and your target |
| 10:06.09 | Ivnedar | add it into a macro and press it when it goes up |
| 10:06.26 | Noshei | ah ok |
| 10:08.25 | Noshei | log |
| 10:08.25 | Noshei | kbmbuffs |
| 10:08.25 | Noshei | log |
| 10:08.28 | Noshei | one macro |
| 10:08.31 | Ivnedar | works :) |
| 10:08.48 | Ivnedar | oh, put in kbmbuffs %t as well |
| 10:08.54 | Noshei | now I just have to remember to use it mid fight |
| 10:09.04 | Ivnedar | only need to remember the once :) |
| 10:11.26 | Ivnedar | any other interesting buffs from encounters you see, grab those too for later |
| 10:12.57 | Noshei | will do |
| 10:13.41 | Noshei | does it do debuffs as well? |
| 10:13.47 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 10:13.58 | Ivnedar | just iterates over the buff list |
| 10:14.09 | Ivnedar | so it'll be quite long in raid combat |
| 10:14.18 | Noshei | ah ok |
| 10:15.50 | Ivnedar | I have another macro that runs dump(Inspect.Unit.Detail('player.target')) |
| 10:16.14 | Ivnedar | for grabbing details I need about any units through the encounter |
| 10:24.54 | Noshei | ok cool, I'll make sure to get those ids for you on sunday. |
| 10:25.01 | Ivnedar | thanks :) |
| 10:26.22 | Noshei | so it looks like the move part starts with about 5.5s left on the channel, so I'm thinking of having hte Move Now start at 6s left. |
| 10:26.32 | Ivnedar | *nod* |
| 10:26.53 | Ivnedar | now you have that file as a base, tinker with the numbers til they work for you |
| 10:27.23 | Noshei | yeah |
| 10:27.35 | Ivnedar | boss's type id goes into WTX.Thrax.UTID |
| 10:30.12 | Noshei | oh I'll forget by sunday |
| 10:30.18 | Ivnedar | no worries :) |
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