| 00:10.33 | Baanano | I'm taking a break off RIFT, nice to meet you all! |
| 01:31.47 | Amadeus- | ^ that's scary :) |
| 01:43.17 | seebs | I guess I'm not super surprised. |
| 01:43.59 | seebs | There's a way in which some MMOs are very "sticky" and tend to retain people, and for some reason, somewhere fairly deep inside Rift, there's a lack-of-sticky that I've noticed a few times, and I'm not sure why. |
| 01:54.24 | Imhothar | honestly, I'm not really in the mood of fixing ImhoBags as I didn't play for months and can see my time spent more usefully |
| 01:54.35 | Imhothar | sort of the same issue I gues |
| 01:57.12 | Ivnedar_ | Imhothar: but we did already! |
| 01:57.13 | Ivnedar_ | :P |
| 01:57.32 | Imhothar | oh well then |
| 01:57.49 | Ivnedar_ | though, found another problem last night in wife's copy of it |
| 01:57.59 | Ivnedar_ | in the sorting routine, sometimes the left hand side is nil |
| 01:58.24 | Ivnedar_ | haven't worked out what causes it yet, just changed the sort comparator to cope until I can track it down |
| 02:15.15 | Amadeus- | Imhothar, you sholud make Ivnedar_ a "contributer" ..then maybe could also update the files on the curse site? I dunno how it works on there. |
| 02:18.35 | Amadeus- | btw ...I found rift to have more "sticky" than other mmos .... TOR, LotRO, DDO, Secret World, DCU, TERA, STO ...I spent less time on those for sure than Rift. |
| 02:18.46 | Amadeus- | WoW is probably about the same as Rift and Aion. |
| 02:18.55 | Amadeus- | EQ1 and EQ2 were the most sticky for me I guess. |
| 02:18.56 | Amadeus- | heh |
| 02:20.34 | Ivnedar_ | Noooo, I don't want to be contributor on other projects :P |
| 02:20.48 | Ivnedar_ | Kekoas keeps trying to give me kbm |
| 02:20.59 | Imhothar | then he has to respond to all the silliness |
| 02:21.17 | Ivnedar_ | "Tooltip placement is an api limitation" |
| 02:21.23 | Ivnedar_ | that covers 99.99% doesn't it? |
| 02:21.25 | Imhothar | macro that |
| 02:22.12 | Imhothar | I'd say more like 98.265% |
| 02:22.20 | Ivnedar_ | ahh |
| 02:22.24 | Imhothar | never use 99.99%, it looks artificial ;) |
| 02:22.50 | Ivnedar_ | wow, people downloading carnage book |
| 02:22.55 | Ivnedar_ | I wasn't sure if anyone still used it :P |
| 02:24.06 | Ivnedar_ | gotta work out how to merge the russian discovery data into the english/german/french data |
| 02:24.09 | Ivnedar_ | wonder if Trion will do that |
| 02:24.29 | Ivnedar_ | given they've now deleted the russian discovery data ... |
| 02:35.37 | Amadeus- | that reminds me of something you guys might find humourous. I did some investigative work with Aion a while back and discovered that the reason they can't get rid of the chat channel spam is because all of their tools/regexes are done in English. |
| 02:35.51 | Amadeus- | But, all of the Aion clients allow for full unicode |
| 02:36.13 | Amadeus- | so, the spammers just replace latin letters with Cyrrilic (sp?) and get past it every day of the week. |
| 02:36.58 | Amadeus- | I wrote a tool to filter out any message that contained non-latin letters and the spam magically disappeared ..hehe ...which is a blessing on Aion because spam is HORRIBLE |
| 02:37.36 | Ivnedar_ | could you have a mapping dictionary of unicode to latin that you apply before the spam checking? |
| 02:38.08 | Amadeus- | I'm sure the problem would be easily solved ...but, the devs are all in Korea ..lol |
| 02:38.31 | Amadeus- | and I don't think they really care that much about the spam troubles of folks they're leasing the code base to |
| 02:47.45 | Amadeus- | --- |
| 02:48.25 | Amadeus- | you know, going back to the previous discussion, I found that a strong addon API was what kept me playing (and paying for) WoW ...especially things like "Zygor Guides", etc. |
| 02:48.47 | Amadeus- | addons GREATLY enhanced the quality of playing that game....and Rift as well ...I'm amazed that Trion won't take it more seriously. |
| 02:49.09 | seebs | The addon API is definitely a draw. Rift's are wonderful, but annoyingly limited -- there's a lot of stuff I'd have done if I'd had a way to interact AT ALL with the chat system. |
| 02:49.21 | seebs | But I still enjoy playing with it, and I like working with Rift's API. |
| 02:49.26 | Ivnedar_ | That's the major downside to it, you get into it and keep hitting walls |
| 02:49.50 | Ivnedar_ | That's to its credit though, that I enjoy working with it and want more more more :P |
| 02:51.27 | Amadeus- | I think what helps make WoW's addon API so strong is that Blizzard uses it themselves for game client components |
| 02:51.56 | Amadeus- | I don't think Trion really uses it for anything themselves, do they? |
| 02:53.09 | Ivnedar_ | It would be interesting if Trion had someone making addons using it |
| 02:54.18 | Ivnedar_ | Showing off what could be done with the addon api |
| 02:54.25 | Ivnedar_ | Might get more people using it |
| 02:54.36 | Amadeus- | yea, would help with little things that just drive you crazy ... there are just a couple tweaks that would make Imhothar's bags as good as ArkInventory |
| 02:54.50 | Amadeus- | surely those kinds of things would get fixed more quickly. |
| 02:56.32 | Ivnedar_ | I need to learn UI design |
| 02:56.42 | Ivnedar_ | so many times I've gotten up to that point and given up |
| 02:56.51 | Ivnedar_ | That or use someone else's ui library |
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| 04:15.59 | Amadeus- | https://www.eqnlandmark.com/founders-pack <- the insanity! |
| 04:16.37 | Amadeus- | I've never been in an alpha. ..might be worth it just for that experience |
| 04:17.20 | seebs | I avoid Sony a lot. |
| 04:17.38 | seebs | I have a pretty large list of companies I generally avoid based on bad experiences of some sort. |
| 04:31.00 | Ivnedar_ | I enjoy the playstation platform too much to boycott them :( |
| 04:32.34 | seebs | I think I have a PS3, but I don't remember. I got one at launch to do Linux stuff, made some money selling writing, then ... eh, whatever. |
| 04:33.04 | Amadeus- | My PS4 from amazon should come soon |
| 04:33.05 | Amadeus- | heh |
| 04:33.14 | Ivnedar_ | My ps3 is used more as a media server these days |
| 04:33.24 | Ivnedar_ | Rift has sucked up any time I have for games :P |
| 04:33.25 | Amadeus- | although, I'm bitter now because I primarily used PS3 for media server and PS4 won't support local media servers |
| 04:33.32 | Amadeus- | which was NOT announcd until very recently. |
| 04:34.30 | Amadeus- | but..I got one of these for that TV, so at least I don't have to worry about media server crap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KOZNBW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
| 04:34.48 | Ivnedar_ | I'll keep using the ps3 for that then :) |
| 04:35.02 | Ivnedar_ | I've got a few other media players that work, but ps3 convenience trumps them all |
| 04:38.14 | Amadeus- | the one I linked is pretty nice ...better than the ps3 I think. I bought it because reviews were good and folks said it supported the most filetypes of any reviewed ...and, so far that's been the case |
| 04:38.21 | Amadeus- | the only bad thing about it is the lame/cheap remote. |
| 04:38.37 | Ivnedar_ | pretty sure I have one of those too |
| 06:26.14 | Thorarin | XBMC ftw :P |
| 06:27.21 | Thorarin | Remote is just my TV remote with http://www.pulse-eight.com/store/products/104-usb-hdmi-cec-adapter.aspx |
| 07:49.52 | Ivnedar_ | boo to all the rift forum spam :( |
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| 10:07.12 | Amadeus- | Trion should move to XenForo forums ...love that new software |
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| 12:10.31 | Ivnedar_ | wow, eu shards splitting into two clusters again |
| 12:12.56 | NuSuey | Ivnedar_: lol? |
| 12:13.09 | Ivnedar_ | daglar posted a response to eu problems |
| 12:13.31 | Ivnedar_ | when they merged them, they had a 40% player population growth buffer, plenty of room |
| 12:13.33 | NuSuey | where is it :o |
| 12:13.35 | Ivnedar_ | then they relisted on steam |
| 12:13.42 | Ivnedar_ | went over that |
| 12:13.53 | Ivnedar_ | http://forums.riftgame.com/general-discussions/general-discussion/394929-eu-shards-news.html |
| 12:14.12 | Ivnedar_ | english cluster and a french/german/international cluster |
| 12:15.18 | NuSuey | ah >.< |
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| 14:15.37 | Thorarin | 40% buffer my ass :P |
| 14:17.29 | Ivnedar_ | maybe 40% buffer over pre 2.4 levels |
| 14:31.56 | Thorarin | Meaning they didn't think of all the Russians they transferred :P |
| 14:32.07 | Ivnedar_ | ahh, that too |
| 14:32.34 | Thorarin | My server is more of a Russian server than an English one at times :( |
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| 19:05.32 | Repo | nkadvisor: naifu * r234 (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:05.32 | Repo | compare tooltips will now use nkItemBase info to enrichen ingame info |
| 19:05.33 | Repo | new api function to display upgrade window |
| 19:07.19 | Repo | nkadvisorloot: naifu * r75 (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:07.21 | Repo | left click on item in loot table will show upgrade window if item is upgradable |
| 19:07.23 | Repo | drop location info for tooltips will now also handle upgrades |
| 19:07.25 | Repo | update nkAdvisor dependency to V3.3.0 |
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