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| 03:03.59 | Ivnedar_ | ZorbaTHut: TW_Zai needs a row of action bar with abilities of "Spawn Volan on shard X" |
| 03:04.18 | Ivnedar_ | sounds like a fair request for a CS member! :D |
| 03:07.05 | Ivnedar_ | It was amusing, they told people Volan was up on Deepwood, but they were actually on Greybriar, realised and corrected themselves, then Volan spawned on Deepwood a few seconds later :D |
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| 06:00.35 | ZorbaTHut | a lot of GM commands can actually be put in macros, so I'm not sure addon support is needed for that one ;) |
| 06:01.02 | ZorbaTHut | (handy for debugging - you can toss the clearcooldowns debug command in one macro, and an ability with a super-long cooldown in another) |
| 06:06.03 | seebs | Interesting. |
| 06:06.24 | seebs | Well, off to try to sleep, I've had weird rolling insomnia all week so my schedule's hosed. |
| 06:06.37 | ZorbaTHut | really they're just slash commands. there's an entire file of GM slash commands that are enabled for all non-user clients, then another file of debug slash commands that are enabled for the debugging clients |
| 06:07.00 | ZorbaTHut | then of course anything that has serverside impact (like the cooldown clear command) is doublechecked by the server that you have appropriate permissions. |
| 06:07.06 | seebs | Makes sense. |
| 06:07.47 | seebs | I'm apparently not doing Extra Life this year, so I will just sorta sleep whenever this weekend. Yay sleep! |
| 06:09.31 | ZorbaTHut | three cheers for sleep |
| 06:33.28 | Ivnedar_ | ZorbaTHut: ahh, so they just need the permissions to do it then, cool :) |
| 06:54.13 | ZorbaTHut | that, and the ability to know what messages to send the server. the release clients don't actually have any knowledge of those messages ;) |
| 09:22.08 | Repo | rift-meter: chuckySTAR master * v1.1.8 (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Removed textfields in sliders and added debug information to a rare error in the deathlog |
| 09:22.08 | Repo | rift-meter: chuckySTAR v1.1.8 * 2622427 /: [new tag] v1.1.8 |
| 09:23.06 | Ivnedar_ | ZorbaTHut: it'd just be a few json posts wouldn't it? ;) |
| 09:38.11 | ZorbaTHut | man, if we had that bug also, I'd be tempted to shank someone :V |
| 09:38.53 | ZorbaTHut | thankfully I'm pretty sure we don't have one that bad, although I'll admit I'd be surprised if there weren't at least a few possible hacks via game protocol manipulation. |
| 09:39.18 | Ivnedar_ | there used to be a few videos around of hacktools from memory, just after launch |
| 09:39.22 | Ivnedar_ | haven't seen any in a long time |
| 09:39.51 | ZorbaTHut | yeah we made it very difficult for those to work :) |
| 09:41.28 | Ivnedar_ | We've been having fun at work building our own OTP validation server for Yubikeys |
| 09:41.39 | Ivnedar_ | Made it a game of "think up an exploit" and then fix it |
| 09:41.43 | Ivnedar_ | then another, etc |
| 09:41.58 | Ivnedar_ | We weren't happy with the vendor's one |
| 09:42.47 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, we had a guy who'd done a lot of game cracking and exploiting in his college days, and he spent a few weeks fixing vulnerabilities |
| 09:43.13 | Ivnedar_ | Vendors hate me at the end of most of our product deployment projects |
| 09:43.15 | ZorbaTHut | I actually sat down with him for a few hours and we tried to figure out a way, even given full knowledge of Rift's security systems, that we could compromise the client long-term |
| 09:43.21 | ZorbaTHut | Couldn't come up with one. |
| 09:43.33 | Ivnedar_ | We had a timesheet management tool that allowed you to apply for negative leave |
| 09:43.49 | Ivnedar_ | which wouldn't show up on manager's reports as it was under 0 |
| 09:43.50 | Ivnedar_ | ... |
| 09:44.00 | ZorbaTHut | *laugh* beautiful |
| 09:44.19 | ZorbaTHut | I think I've mentioned this before, but at one point we had a bug that let you split a negative-sized stack off an existing stack of items |
| 09:44.25 | Ivnedar_ | lol, nice |
| 09:44.36 | Ivnedar_ | because of the way it treats each stack as an item? |
| 09:44.37 | ZorbaTHut | which was bad enough, except that our stack-size labeling code was coded to only show a quantity if the size was *greater than* one |
| 09:44.44 | ZorbaTHut | so it looked exactly like a stack of one item |
| 09:44.44 | Ivnedar_ | hee hee |
| 09:44.59 | ZorbaTHut | yep. just missed a sanity check in one path of the stack-splitting code. |
| 09:45.02 | Ivnedar_ | signed value then, would have been interesting if it was unsigned and wrapped :D |
| 09:45.25 | Ivnedar_ | I split my stack of 2 into 1 and MAX_INT-1 |
| 09:45.27 | ZorbaTHut | honestly that wasn't even the worst part of it - one, this let you essentially synthesize any stacked item out of nothing |
| 09:45.43 | ZorbaTHut | (take one copper ore, split it into a stack of 101 and one of -100, throw away the -100 stack) |
| 09:45.51 | Ivnedar_ | nice |
| 09:46.10 | ZorbaTHut | two, it let you do things like post poison stacks on the auction house, where if anyone bought the stack, it would "combine" with existing items in their inventory and effectively destroy them :V |
| 09:46.11 | Ivnedar_ | Though, I'd have kept the -100 stack :D |
| 09:46.16 | Ivnedar_ | yup |
| 09:46.26 | ZorbaTHut | so yeah, that was mildly entertaining for a bit. |
| 09:46.34 | ZorbaTHut | (fixed long since, obviously, or I wouldn't be mentioning it) |
| 09:48.17 | Ivnedar_ | To the timesheet vendor's credit, they did fix most of the several pages of problems found with it |
| 09:51.33 | ZorbaTHut | I'm kind of amazed that only 82.8% of players have beaten The Stanley Parable. |
| 09:51.57 | Ivnedar_ | the first ending achievement? |
| 09:52.01 | ZorbaTHut | yeah |
| 09:52.21 | ZorbaTHut | (just played it for the first time, found most but not quite all of the endings on my own) |
| 09:52.28 | Ivnedar_ | :D |
| 09:52.33 | Ivnedar_ | I quite enjoyed it |
| 09:52.41 | ZorbaTHut | agreed. great game :) |
| 09:52.42 | Ivnedar_ | Did you get many of the achievements? |
| 09:52.59 | Ivnedar_ | I'm only at 4/10 |
| 09:53.07 | ZorbaTHut | three of 'em. most of them are very tricky |
| 09:53.12 | ZorbaTHut | if I started the game again I'd get another :V |
| 09:53.23 | Ivnedar_ | Did you read up on the Unachieveable one? |
| 09:53.53 | ZorbaTHut | a little, yeah. it's sad that people are just hacking it in :V |
| 09:54.17 | Ivnedar_ | I loved that he did it that way :D |
| 09:54.45 | Ivnedar_ | the knock 5 times one was fun |
| 09:55.06 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I liked that one :D |
| 09:55.23 | ZorbaTHut | although I got locked in the room the first time and had to restart it |
| 09:55.30 | Ivnedar_ | lol |
| 09:55.43 | Ivnedar_ | hey, it's a valid ending! |
| 09:55.52 | ZorbaTHut | true! :) |
| 09:55.54 | Ivnedar_ | I enjoyed reading the signs in the museum too |
| 09:56.15 | ZorbaTHut | I spent a lot of time in the museum. Also kind of funny because it mentioned an ending I hadn't yet seen |
| 09:56.16 | Ivnedar_ | Though I got to that point fairly early on, so a little bit of a spoiler about some of the other possible paths |
| 09:56.20 | Ivnedar_ | yup :) |
| 09:56.28 | ZorbaTHut | (the confusion ending, which was . . . hilarious) |
| 09:56.47 | Ivnedar_ | I haven't finished that whole line, apparently the schedule isn't the real end or something |
| 09:57.02 | Ivnedar_ | I think I got to 7th restart out of the 8 |
| 09:57.17 | Baanano | we had a skill that let players increase their attack power how much they wanted, but decreasing their dodge and parry twice that amount. It had the negative bug too and they were exploiting it for over a year before someone reported it |
| 09:57.37 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I'm unclear on whether I accidentally dropped out of the confusion ending or whether there's actually more |
| 09:57.41 | ZorbaTHut | (you could say I'm confused on the matter) |
| 09:57.44 | Ivnedar_ | :D |
| 09:57.49 | Ivnedar_ | Appropriate |
| 09:57.52 | ZorbaTHut | baanano, whoops. :) |
| 09:57.59 | Ivnedar_ | The real person ending was fun, the out of body ending |
| 09:58.24 | Ivnedar_ | That was the last one I found |
| 09:58.44 | Ivnedar_ | oh, I have to spend more time working out the countdown room, haven't done the other possibilities in there I believe |
| 09:58.57 | ZorbaTHut | the good news is that it gave me some more ideas for a game I may or may not ever write |
| 09:58.59 | Ivnedar_ | Unless the buttons really don't do anything |
| 09:59.15 | ZorbaTHut | I gave it a few tries and I'm pretty sure the buttons don't do anything useful, I think it's just a giant joke |
| 09:59.40 | ZorbaTHut | which is admittedly super-hilarious because of the narrator telling me constantly that it's all just a giant joke |
| 09:59.43 | ZorbaTHut | I *had to be sure* |
| 09:59.46 | Ivnedar_ | yup :D |
| 10:00.06 | Ivnedar_ | It would be interesting to see the stats of the order people went |
| 10:00.13 | Ivnedar_ | If 99% went right at the start |
| 10:00.14 | Ivnedar_ | etc |
| 10:00.32 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I did, then decided to follow the instructions to see where it went |
| 10:00.43 | Ivnedar_ | It was interesting to watch myself wrestle with that first decision |
| 10:01.07 | Ivnedar_ | He said to go left, but that makes me want to go right, but umm, left ..., ok going right |
| 10:01.31 | Ivnedar_ | Less of a decision after that when I had the choice to go back to the other path, stubbornly stuck to it |
| 10:02.15 | Ivnedar_ | escape pod ending I found by mistake |
| 10:02.30 | Ivnedar_ | I thought I'd actually bugged the game |
| 10:03.29 | Ivnedar_ | I only lasted 20 minutes on the baby game too :( |
| 10:03.47 | ZorbaTHut | if you haven't looked up the youtube video on how that one ends, you should |
| 10:04.15 | Ivnedar_ | ooh, 4 hours is the cutoff? lol |
| 10:04.20 | Ivnedar_ | I was nowhere near it |
| 10:05.07 | Ivnedar_ | ooh duh, he said that before, I'd forgotten |
| 10:06.41 | ZorbaTHut | one thing I find fascinating about this game is that there are people who are reporting bugs, and other people saying "I think that might be intentional" |
| 10:06.44 | ZorbaTHut | and it really isn't clear sometimes |
| 10:09.50 | Ivnedar_ | oooh, I didn't make it to heaven, must have missed that ending |
| 10:27.42 | Repo | nkrebuff: naifu * r263 (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:27.42 | Repo | added check to prevent moving buff button outside of game window |
| 10:27.43 | Repo | some code changes for EnKai V1.3.8 |
| 10:28.03 | Repo | nkrebuff: naifu V3.8.2 * r264 : Tagging as V3.8.2 |
| 10:30.44 | Repo | nkwardrobe: naifu * r130 (2 files in 1 directory): minor tooltip related bug fix |
| 10:31.10 | Repo | nkwardrobe: naifu V4.1.7 * r131 : Tagging as V4.1.7 |
| 10:33.06 | Ivnedar_ | roflmao, the game gets a little confused if you force spawn the portal gun |
| 10:41.16 | Repo | nkadvisor: naifu * r229 Libs/nkItemBase/: replace with lib auto package mode |
| 10:44.49 | Repo | nkadvisor: naifu * r230 (3 files in 1 directory): auto package nkItemBase |
| 10:44.49 | Repo | some fixes needed for EnKai V1.3.8 update |
| 10:48.44 | Repo | nkadvisor: naifu V3.2.5 * r231 : Tagging as V3.2.5 |
| 11:10.41 | Ivnedar_ | ZorbaTHut: did you try speedrunning it? |
| 11:10.48 | Ivnedar_ | It detects it :D |
| 11:32.08 | Repo | nkadvisorlevel: naifu * r24 (3 files in 1 directory): added dependency to nkAdvisor 3.2.5 |
| 11:32.08 | Repo | some fixes for EnKai V1.3.8 |
| 11:32.23 | Repo | nkadvisorlevel: naifu V2.0.2 * r25 : Tagging as V2.0.2 |
| 11:33.07 | Repo | nkadvisorloot: naifu * r69 (2 files in 1 directory): added dependency to nkAdvisor 3.2.5 |
| 11:33.07 | Repo | some fixes for EnKai V1.3.8 |
| 11:33.17 | Repo | nkadvisorloot: naifu * r70 main.lua: added dependency to nkAdvisor 3.2.5 |
| 11:33.17 | Repo | some fixes for EnKai V1.3.8 |
| 11:33.55 | Repo | nkadvisorloot: naifu * r71 RiftAddon.toc: fixed wrong version number |
| 11:34.07 | Repo | nkadvisorloot: naifu V2.2.1 * r72 : Tagging as V2.2.1 |
| 11:34.30 | Repo | nkadvisorrating: naifu * r41 main.lua: added dependency to nkAdvisor 3.2.5 |
| 11:34.30 | Repo | some fixes for EnKai V1.3.8 |
| 11:34.54 | Repo | nkadvisorrating: naifu * r42 RiftAddon.toc: fixed version number |
| 11:35.21 | Repo | nkadvisorrating: naifu V2.0.10 * r43 : Tagging as V2.0.10 |
| 11:35.42 | Repo | nkadvisorrunes: naifu * r15 (2 files in 1 directory): added dependency to nkAdvisor 3.2.5 |
| 11:35.42 | Repo | some fixes for EnKai V1.3.8 |
| 11:36.03 | Repo | nkadvisorrunes: naifu V2.0.1 * r16 : Tagging as V2.0.1 |
| 11:36.20 | Repo | nkadvisorsearch: naifu * r38 (3 files in 1 directory): added dependency to nkAdvisor 3.2.5 |
| 11:36.20 | Repo | some fixes for EnKai V1.3.8 |
| 11:36.36 | Repo | nkadvisorsearch: naifu V2.0.7 * r39 : Tagging as V2.0.7 |
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| 22:45.30 | Repo | New addon: nkItemBase - http://www.curseforge.com/addons/nkitemlib/ |
| 23:35.46 | Ivnedar_ | hrrm, we don't quite get enough info to synthesise our own tooltips do we |
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| 23:39.14 | Noshei | sure dont Ivnedar_, been an issue for a while |
| 23:39.44 | Ivnedar_ | we're missing Use: strings, already known/collected/learned/etc flags |
| 23:39.54 | Ivnedar_ | hrrm, what else? |
| 23:40.07 | Amadeus | I was wondering if anyone had any insight on my question at http://forums.riftgame.com/technical-discussions/addon-api-development/392252-remaining-uses-ability.html |
| 23:40.49 | Amadeus | oh, and hey, there's Imhothar *wave* |
| 23:41.30 | Ivnedar_ | Amadeus: we don't get that info sadly :( |
| 23:41.36 | Amadeus | :( |
| 23:41.46 | Amadeus | has it been requested? |
| 23:45.32 | Ivnedar_ | Not sure if that specific thing has been, but similar things are on ZorbaTHut's list |
| 23:46.04 | Ivnedar_ | The existance of ability charges will have come out after that part of the API was implemented |
| 23:46.11 | Ivnedar_ | so the attribute just won't be there |
| 23:46.37 | Ivnedar_ | It may be either trivial to implement or impossible, depending on how it's calculated I guess |
| 23:47.09 | Ivnedar_ | ZorbaTHut: would it be any help if we made a list of missing object attributes? |
| 23:47.48 | Ivnedar_ | Things that are visible in the client, but not exposed by the api |
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| 23:53.39 | Amadeus | :) |