| 00:16.00 | Repo | rifthud: RagebeastRT master * v3.7.4_release (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed error with charge routine. Fixed error with pvp routine. |
| 00:16.00 | Repo | rifthud: RagebeastRT v3.7.4_release * e129e58 /: [new tag] |
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| 08:00.41 | Repo | New addon: nkCurrency - http://www.curseforge.com/addons/nkcurrency/ |
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| 09:09.45 | Ivnedar | hiya Kekoas |
| 09:09.51 | Kekoas | Sup matey |
| 09:10.06 | Kekoas | How long until Curse is fixed? |
| 09:10.22 | Ivnedar | what's up with it? |
| 09:10.35 | Kekoas | Not packaging |
| 09:10.42 | Ivnedar | ah yeah |
| 09:10.51 | Ivnedar | packager is dying every night or something |
| 09:10.57 | Ivnedar | until Torhal notices and restarts it |
| 09:11.09 | Kekoas | This isn't helping me write for Rift |
| 09:11.13 | Kekoas | I already hate the game |
| 09:11.31 | Ivnedar | Boo :( |
| 09:11.49 | Kekoas | Sorry man, bored with it |
| 09:11.56 | Kekoas | Hearthstone <3 |
| 09:12.06 | Ivnedar | lol |
| 09:12.09 | Ivnedar | I'm up and down |
| 09:12.21 | Ivnedar | progression gets me down, random stuff like mayhem picks me up |
| 09:12.41 | Kekoas | for me, I had KBM when I was down with Rift. Now that's not updating. I've lost interest in both |
| 09:13.12 | Ivnedar | I'm seeing how bad some fake 3d modelling will go with canvas to keep me interesting |
| 09:13.15 | Ivnedar | interested even |
| 09:13.23 | Kekoas | haha |
| 09:13.27 | Kekoas | yeah, I thought about it |
| 09:13.51 | Kekoas | I'll just go back to coding games I think |
| 09:14.03 | Ivnedar | making a canvas frame for each side of an object |
| 09:14.26 | Ivnedar | then make them transform based on how they should be drawn and draw them in order of furthest back to front |
| 09:14.32 | Kekoas | Should work fine managing the trans... |
| 09:14.34 | Kekoas | yeah that |
| 09:14.35 | Ivnedar | pretty horrible efficiency wise |
| 09:14.46 | Ivnedar | but hey, it's fun :) |
| 09:14.59 | Kekoas | Because Lua has ever been coding language :P |
| 09:15.17 | Kekoas | It's about as good a Java |
| 09:15.21 | Kekoas | maybe better |
| 09:15.29 | Kekoas | actually, proably is faster |
| 09:15.51 | Kekoas | Java and Flash are lol |
| 09:16.41 | Ivnedar | I'm still very much writing stuff for myself and putting it out there if people want it |
| 09:16.58 | Kekoas | It's the way to be |
| 09:17.09 | Kekoas | That's all KBM was |
| 09:17.16 | Ivnedar | I have no idea what copyright there is on nyancat, so I haven't published that one :D |
| 09:17.18 | Kekoas | for me, so I didn't raid with idiots |
| 09:17.30 | Kekoas | lol |
| 09:17.45 | Ivnedar | All sorts of random ones that only I use |
| 09:17.59 | Ivnedar | One dumps all sorts of interesting stuff about mobs and cast times and mob status as it's casting |
| 09:18.05 | Kekoas | I'll link you up with main access to KBM tomorrow |
| 09:18.08 | Ivnedar | so I can work out encounters for guild |
| 09:19.04 | Kekoas | Yeah, that encounters thing was suposed to be for that |
| 09:19.14 | Kekoas | Never got around to it |
| 09:19.22 | Kekoas | Too many rewrites |
| 09:19.53 | Ivnedar | I was going to write another addon that hooked into kbm and pushed encounters into it from my client and forced guildies to run it |
| 09:20.03 | Ivnedar | so when I was happy with one midraid, they'd get it via message |
| 09:20.30 | Kekoas | Just take over KBM |
| 09:20.33 | Ivnedar | Nooo |
| 09:20.49 | Kekoas | it's a mess but it handles most of the inconsistency |
| 09:21.58 | Ivnedar | Massive list of addon ideas and never enough time |
| 09:22.24 | Kekoas | aye, I get that |
| 09:22.51 | Kekoas | This was my first Lua/Addon thing |
| 09:22.57 | Kekoas | Probably the last :) |
| 09:23.05 | Ivnedar | It is a big one |
| 09:23.06 | Kekoas | I prefer to write and control the engine |
| 09:23.21 | Kekoas | It was fun |
| 09:23.29 | Kekoas | I learned something at least |
| 09:29.12 | Kekoas | Well, take it easy mate. Bowing out of Addons. I couldn't cope with the 3rd party waiting of RiftUI, so the random of Curse has killed it for me |
| 09:29.23 | Kekoas | I don't like waiting/relying on anyone else |
| 09:29.51 | Ivnedar | publish them yourself! :D |
| 09:30.38 | Kekoas | yeah, I hate the tedium of web coding as it is. So writing something to support a 3rd party of a 3rd party |
| 09:30.41 | Kekoas | not so much :P |
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| 10:04.52 | tubsawubs | Java slow? |
| 10:04.55 | tubsawubs | *ponder* |
| 10:08.11 | Ivnedar | guess if you compare it to c |
| 10:08.17 | Ivnedar | or you write it badly |
| 10:40.02 | tubsawubs | Aye, but it's fast enough for anything that isn't a driver, I find. |
| 10:40.21 | tubsawubs | Assuming one isn't a numpty, and doesn't write it badly. ;) |
| 10:41.43 | ZorbaGama | it'd fall over for really high-end games - memory usage would be an issue and it's amazing how much of a headache a GC can be for a project with soft realtime constraints - but it's perfectly fine for mid-sized or smaller games |
| 10:43.04 | Ivnedar | I was impressed to find out that Severance was written almost all in python |
| 10:43.23 | Ivnedar | graphics engine was c, but everything else was python |
| 10:43.28 | Ivnedar | if you wanted to cheat, you changed the code :P |
| 10:44.14 | ZorbaGama | Grim Fandango was heavily Lua-based - in fact, from what I understand, Tim Schafer has leaned on Lua for over a decade now |
| 10:44.26 | ZorbaGama | and I believe Eve's UI was mostly Python |
| 10:44.42 | ZorbaGama | as well as chunks of its backend, which may have been a mistake :P |
| 10:44.47 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 10:45.09 | Ivnedar | ah yes, stackless python |
| 11:00.19 | tubsawubs | ZorbaGama: True that, games are there only very special very niche case |
| 11:00.43 | tubsawubs | They are realtime-but-more-throughput-but-still-realtime |
| 11:01.28 | tubsawubs | My background is in biotech analysis which is very very throughput heavy, but not really interactive. (with some exceptions) |
| 11:01.51 | tubsawubs | s/there/their/ |
| 11:44.04 | Ivnedar | lol, with eggtender fight, if you're moving when you use the harpoon, momentum is preserved and carries you through walls/pillars/etc |
| 11:44.10 | Ivnedar | so you get stuck in a wall |
| 13:41.01 | Repo | New addon: nkShopCalc - http://www.curseforge.com/addons/nkshopcalc/ |
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