| 00:05.11 | Ivnedar | seebs: RR is attempting to sell PB artifact sets |
| 00:05.23 | Ivnedar | since addiction is the only NA guild far enough through PB to be able to |
| 00:06.39 | Ivnedar | doing it in cross shard channels |
| 00:07.00 | Ivnedar | So that triggered a long wall of rage response |
| 00:17.48 | seebs | Ahh. I am not sure why someone would mention me in that, but I guess. I don't really see a big problem there, I guess. |
| 00:18.16 | Ivnedar | Oh, someone said RR should have left when you did and taken Techie Will with him |
| 00:18.19 | Ivnedar | So much hate :( |
| 00:18.43 | Ivnedar | It really feels like tall poppy syndrome |
| 00:18.56 | Ivnedar | Anyone who's well known is a target for their attacks |
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| 03:24.37 | TinnerKB | Zorba, in Canvas, in gradientRadial when setting focus, it seems to only travel along the x axis away from the origin, is there a way to change the y axis as well? |
| 03:44.51 | TinnerKB | Also, under texture, wrap = "clamp" works fine, wrap = "wrap" causes errors and client crashes. |
| 04:36.47 | ZorbaBeta | tinner, you'll have to use some appropriate transformation matrix for that |
| 04:36.58 | ZorbaBeta | and, hmm, wrap worked when I tested it >_< can you make a simple reproducible test case? |
| 06:30.24 | TinnerKB | Zorba, http://pastebin.com/5igHd0j2 |
| 06:31.16 | TinnerKB | I know it only draws a diagonal line but it causes the same error. If wrap="clamp" then no error. In my addon I use a full pathed outline and does the same |
| 06:31.49 | TinnerKB | I also thought it might be a folder texture that caused it but internal texture does the same |
| 06:33.07 | TinnerKB | As for the focus in gradientRadial, I know if I turn the transform it would move the y coord instead of x, was hoping I could do both x, y and have the focus in the center and not just on a side coming from the origin |
| 06:35.18 | ZorbaBeta | huh, curious. I'll see what's going on there |
| 06:36.06 | ZorbaBeta | I don't know what you mean by "in the center" - all possible focus positions should be possible via the matrix transformation |
| 06:36.24 | TinnerKB | That could be the whole prob with me then, I am completely lost with that |
| 06:36.36 | TinnerKB | I got it to work with cardinal points in RiftHud but thats it |
| 06:36.55 | TinnerKB | couldnt find any formulas to work so I have a matrix for each point |
| 06:37.41 | ZorbaBeta | I believe there's a matrix math library available for Rift |
| 06:38.10 | TinnerKB | I looked at that on the forums. I guess you need to know what you want them to do to use them :) |
| 06:38.47 | TinnerKB | Back when I went to school, we didnt have any of that in classes |
| 06:39.24 | ZorbaBeta | check out google :D they're complicated, but very worthwhile |
| 06:39.40 | TinnerKB | I found some sin cos examples but couldnt get them to work |
| 06:40.55 | TinnerKB | I will continue to look. Anyhow, on the texture thing, Is there anyway to resize the texture without having to change the frame or is that what the wrap is for? |
| 06:42.04 | ZorbaBeta | that's what the transform is for |
| 06:42.30 | TinnerKB | great |
| 06:42.40 | TinnerKB | I cant do a simple rotation :) |
| 06:42.52 | ZorbaBeta | pretty much every movement/resizing/deformation is tied up in the transform, to be honest |
| 06:43.10 | ZorbaBeta | check out the output of the Utility.Matrix functions and compare those to what your online tutorials say |
| 06:43.49 | TinnerKB | I did that as well. Then took my calc and tried to come up with each number there. Some I did. some I had no idea where they came from |
| 06:57.08 | TinnerKB | So I took another look at Introducing LibLinAlg: Matrix Heaven and still just as lost. I realize matrixes are supposed to be the basic of some graphic languaged but I just dont get them for some reason |
| 07:02.15 | Ivnedar | oh score, just found my 3rd year computer graphics assignment code :) |
| 07:02.32 | Ivnedar | including a transformation matrix generator class |
| 07:03.10 | TinnerKB | look at this, is that what I am supposed to be doing? https://rawgithub.com/alexanderdickson/Transformation-Matrix/master/index.html |
| 07:04.31 | TinnerKB | it fills the first and second boxes on the first and second row when using rotate |
| 07:04.58 | ZorbaBeta | yep, that looks accurate |
| 07:05.20 | TinnerKB | ok, how do I use that with Utility matrix? |
| 07:06.27 | ZorbaBeta | the utility matrix will generate that for you given the right parameters, or you can just use those values as a matrix - the matrix tables used in the API are just the first six elements of that matrix |
| 07:07.04 | TinnerKB | so it will always be (#, #, 0, #, #, 0)? |
| 07:07.14 | ZorbaBeta | for rotations, yes |
| 07:08.09 | TinnerKB | what if my frame is a rectangle and not 100x100? |
| 07:08.35 | ZorbaBeta | it's still rotated around the origin |
| 07:09.28 | TinnerKB | ok, im not asking the right questions or something, sorry. Looks like this only page is really no different then your amtrix, results are the same. My prob is what I need to enter to get those results |
| 07:11.09 | TinnerKB | like I entered 90 for rotation and I get 4 numbers, none of them are pi/2 so something else is affecting that number |
| 07:11.31 | ZorbaBeta | rotation is in radians, not degrees :) |
| 07:12.27 | ZorbaBeta | and the numbers are linear transformations, not angles. if you enter 1.570795 as a rotation in that webpage, you'll get a 90deg rotation. |
| 07:15.12 | TinnerKB | ok, I see the output on that. Looks like Sin and Cos at work there. That what I couldnt get to work out earlier. With this page I may can come up with something |
| 07:16.10 | TinnerKB | I dont suppose there is like a simple x and a simple y formula that would work with any rotation is there? |
| 07:27.56 | ZorbaBeta | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotation_matrix :) |
| 07:28.28 | TinnerKB | ok, after the contents there are the 2 formulas |
| 07:29.06 | ZorbaBeta | look at the matrix at the very top of the page. that's pretty much what you're looking for |
| 07:29.10 | TinnerKB | I tried to enter x and y into those and I couldnt get the results I needed |
| 07:30.11 | ZorbaBeta | I guess I'm confused as to what you're looking for. what do you mean, a "simple x and a simple y formula"? |
| 07:32.12 | TinnerKB | in Utility.Matrix.Create, the first 2 numbers would be my width/100 and height/100 for scale, the 3rd number is math.pi whatever to get the rotation. The last 2 numbers I guess I am hoping takes a formula to get the table I need |
| 07:32.49 | ZorbaBeta | Utility.Matrix.Create is rather limited, and is intended just as a simple interface for making simple matrices |
| 07:33.06 | ZorbaBeta | if you want to do something more complicated, you'll need to either multiply matrices or create your own by hand |
| 07:33.56 | TinnerKB | Just want to take a 60x256 frame and rotate is the 4 cardinal points and have the fill work correctly, Thats it :) |
| 07:34.33 | TinnerKB | rhud.matrix[i][1] = Utility.Matrix.Create(x / 100, y / 100, 0, 0, 0) |
| 07:34.34 | TinnerKB | rhud.matrix[i][2] = Utility.Matrix.Create(x / 100, y / 100, (math.pi / 2), y, 0) |
| 07:34.36 | TinnerKB | rhud.matrix[i][3] = Utility.Matrix.Create(x / 100, y / 100, math.pi, x, y) |
| 07:34.37 | TinnerKB | rhud.matrix[i][4] = Utility.Matrix.Create(x / 100, y / 100, -(math.pi / 2), 0, x) |
| 07:34.56 | TinnerKB | thats what I eneded up with, just not sure how correct it is. the x and y are widths and heights that are scaled |
| 07:35.38 | TinnerKB | thats left to right, top to bottom, right to left, bottom to top |
| 07:35.50 | ZorbaBeta | I'm very confused what you're trying to do there. there isn't anything in the API that takes more than a single matrix |
| 07:36.39 | TinnerKB | RiftHud is unitframes |
| 07:37.04 | TinnerKB | so based on the arc orientation, the bars grow |
| 07:38.38 | TinnerKB | now you say I can do it with a single matrix. Thats what I was trying to do, instead of 4 matrixs based on rotation, was hoping to just throw x and y through a formula, enter it in the utility can call it with fill |
| 07:39.29 | TinnerKB | this is using gradientLinear |
| 07:39.41 | TinnerKB | if it was solid, prob wouldnt even matter |
| 07:41.34 | TinnerKB | I guess that could be confusing. The matrixes are also used, based on a vertical arc or a horizontal arc, and which direction the growth would come from |
| 07:41.39 | ZorbaBeta | the best way, by far, would be to do matrix math, but I'm afraid I don't have time to help in a lot of detail :) try posting on the forums and explaining exactly what you're trying to do? |
| 07:41.54 | ZorbaBeta | using the linear algebra library will probably simplify things, but as I haven't used that library, I wouldn't be much help |
| 07:42.11 | TinnerKB | what I have there works. I jsut wanted to know why it works with your Matrix |
| 07:43.10 | ZorbaBeta | all Utility.Matrix.Create does is generate three transformation matrices - scale, rotate, and translate - and multiply them together in that order |
| 07:43.33 | TinnerKB | and in order to use textures instead of gradients, I will need to know how to manipulate them. I tried one texture but it was way to big and not placed where I thought it would be |
| 07:43.53 | TinnerKB | ok, scale I got, thats the first 2 numbers |
| 07:44.21 | ZorbaBeta | textures end up scaled based on the size of the texture - if you use a 100x100 texture it'll be the same size |
| 07:45.12 | TinnerKB | that would just be 1, 1 |
| 07:47.21 | TinnerKB | oh thats why I couldnt get it to work with the sin and cos formulas. THe matrix result is the result of 3 matrixes |
| 07:48.24 | ZorbaBeta | yep, it's a little more complex than a single primitive matrix |
| 07:49.20 | TinnerKB | and the translate numbers, that would just be moving the 0, 0 origin to a different point and then filling from there right? |
| 07:49.52 | ZorbaBeta | pretty much, yep |
| 07:52.44 | TinnerKB | Ill keep playing with it. Been working on a new addon called SimpleCanvas. Lets me make what I want on screen and then I can export it to tables. |
| 07:56.13 | ZorbaBeta | sounds good :) |
| 10:21.08 | Ivnedar | made my own matrix library, rotate's much happier when I translate, rotate, translate back |
| 10:35.51 | Ivnedar | lol, my nyancat is spining around the screen :) |
| 10:37.58 | Ivnedar | feeding Inspect.Time.Frame() into rotation :D |
| 10:40.53 | tubsawubs | Ivnedar: nyancat is serious business. Nyancat does not rotate. Nyancat only nyans. Be one with the nyan. Nyanyanyanya. |
| 10:41.14 | Ivnedar | my nyancat nyans in a circle! |
| 10:43.55 | tubsawubs | But the nyan is all, the nyan is infinite, so how can it loop? :-( |
| 10:45.39 | Ivnedar | looping is an integral part of nyan |
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| 13:24.08 | Ivnedar | heh, old cq pick a team trick is back |
| 16:37.17 | Cairenn | Morning |
| 16:39.52 | Torhal | Cairenn: Are you certain? |
| 16:40.06 | Cairenn | ~ugt |
| 16:40.06 | purl | well, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 16:40.10 | Cairenn | so yup |
| 16:40.37 | Torhal | Heh |
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| 18:27.10 | Solsis | ugh |
| 18:27.15 | Solsis | I hate Layers |
| 18:27.25 | Solsis | I never can get crap to draw like I want it |
| 18:35.44 | seebs | Meh. Post from dahanese pulling the "sure, there's some bad experiences, but there's some really positive ones too!!" line. |
| 18:36.15 | seebs | I figure if that's a good argument for the company not doing something about child-rape jokes in chat, then it should be a good argument against health inspectors at restaurants. "Sure, there's a few cockroaches, but this is premium free-range beef!" |
| 18:36.42 | Solsis | lol.. agreed |
| 18:39.17 | TinnerKB | Sign at McDonalds: "Blaming us for your kids getting fat is like blaming Hooters for your husbands liking big tits." |
| 18:39.35 | TinnerKB | I just fell over when I seen that |
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| 22:02.35 | Repo | (754) Updated Changelog. Added Spies for Twins. Updated French Translations. |