| 00:34.44 | *** join/#riftuidev ZorbaBeta (tocohl@maximilian.pavlovian.net) |
| 03:44.04 | Ivnedar | oops, augment recipes dropping in dungeons wasn't turned on ... |
| 03:45.15 | Ivnedar | they're on strongholds with greaters |
| 03:45.16 | Ivnedar | sighs |
| 03:58.35 | Ivnedar | hrrm, hadn't noticed any AA problems last night after I updated |
| 04:02.41 | Noshei | "However, it crashes the client. There must be a memory leak somewhere" |
| 04:03.13 | Noshei | pretty sure that a memory leak wouldn't cause a client crash, at least not right after using a macro. |
| 04:03.21 | Ivnedar | I love that EE bosses drop 1 FES now that can be master looted to one person in the raid |
| 04:03.37 | Noshei | lol |
| 04:03.48 | Ivnedar | http://i.imgur.com/AoIl38y.jpg |
| 04:04.29 | Noshei | your in white fang? |
| 04:04.33 | Ivnedar | nah |
| 04:04.55 | Noshei | someone elses ss? |
| 04:04.59 | Ivnedar | http://forums.riftgame.com/general-discussions/general-discussion/386149-small-number-frozen-eclipse-stones-can-still-found-raid-zones.html |
| 04:08.25 | Noshei | I'm kinda bumbed that ZorbaBeta released canvas after I have stopped playing rift. |
| 04:08.39 | Noshei | doubtful I will ever get to play with it now. |
| 04:08.40 | Ivnedar | The sole purpose of releasing it was to get you to come back |
| 04:08.43 | Ivnedar | he said it when you weren't on |
| 04:08.48 | Ivnedar | (not really, but pretend!) |
| 04:08.54 | Noshei | lol |
| 04:09.28 | Noshei | rift holds no interest for me any more, the game is frankly very boring for me. |
| 04:10.24 | Noshei | now I'm just looking forward to when Square Enix releases the API for FFXIV. |
| 04:12.11 | Ivnedar | I'm trying to talk a collegue into printing out an x509 cert and them typing it in as a way of getting to the server it needs to be on |
| 04:12.37 | Ivnedar | because outlook is blocking it |
| 04:12.42 | Ivnedar | and I'm trolling him for using outlook |
| 04:13.03 | Noshei | 1024 or 2048? |
| 04:13.06 | Ivnedar | 2048 |
| 04:13.09 | Noshei | lol |
| 04:13.12 | Ivnedar | shouldn't take too long |
| 04:13.30 | Noshei | lol, would suck if you make 1 mistake though |
| 04:13.36 | Ivnedar | yeah :D |
| 04:13.43 | Ivnedar | hold paper up to screen to compare |
| 04:14.33 | Noshei | I had to deal with those certs a ton when I was in the Air Force, such a pain in the ass |
| 04:14.55 | Ivnedar | we've got some deal with a local org now so we can generate our own |
| 04:15.03 | Ivnedar | through their ca portal |
| 04:15.09 | Noshei | oh nice |
| 04:15.11 | Ivnedar | but means we can generate as many as we want whenever we want |
| 04:15.15 | Ivnedar | for one flat fee |
| 04:15.25 | Noshei | thats nice |
| 04:15.43 | Ivnedar | which results in test/dev boxes have legit certs finally |
| 04:15.47 | Ivnedar | and network kit, etc |
| 04:16.01 | Noshei | the AF has a whole pain in the ass process to get certs, and sadly I had to be right in the middle of it. |
| 04:16.34 | Ivnedar | the area I'm in got sick of it and get an ssl accelerator with a wildcard cert on it |
| 04:16.38 | Ivnedar | :P |
| 04:18.20 | Noshei | So I was the local guy that the user contacted when they needed a cert. I then had to do some stuff on a web portal to submit the request to the CA. Then I had to send a form into the regional guy that was above me for approval and they sent it to the CA level people to actually get the cert created. |
| 04:19.13 | Noshei | then of course once it was created I had to go get it and pass the cert to the user and help them install it. |
| 04:19.40 | Noshei | and I hate users... |
| 04:20.23 | Noshei | so glad that I dont deal with users or pki any more. |
| 04:27.21 | seebs | I am so curious as to what SE will do with their API. |
| 04:27.46 | seebs | If it reflects the rest of their game, I imagine it will have moments of shining clarity and brilliance, and moments of "seriously, how could anyone possibly think that would work". |
| 04:28.00 | seebs | It may allow a lot more automation than Rift does. FF14 macros are allowed to automate multi-action combinations of tasks. |
| 04:28.00 | Ivnedar | lol |
| 04:28.16 | seebs | Seriously, they do some stuff that's just so clever, and other stuff that's... just... so stupid. |
| 04:28.17 | Ivnedar | in a multipress sequence? or one single press? |
| 04:28.22 | seebs | One button press. |
| 04:28.29 | seebs | So on a crafter, I have stuff like: |
| 04:28.39 | seebs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.42 | seebs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.44 | seebs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.50 | seebs | and it does exactly what it looks like. |
| 04:29.13 | Ivnedar | They could always limit what can be in a macro |
| 04:29.25 | seebs | So they have working player-moderated channels (Rift had player channels at launch, but if you tried to use the moderation features the channel became completely dysfunctional, because they were broken). |
| 04:29.26 | Ivnedar | so something like crafting an item is a "safe" action and you can put as many of those in as you want |
| 04:29.33 | Ivnedar | and combat related things are "unsafe" and you can only have 1 |
| 04:29.36 | seebs | ... with a hard cap limit of 128 characters subscribed to the channel. Ever. |
| 04:29.52 | seebs | They have a chat throttle, which throttles repeated messages... But only if the messages are identical. |
| 04:30.06 | seebs | You can never send in-game mail to your own alts. |
| 04:30.27 | Ivnedar | so many things like that that you look at and thing "They would have had to go to extra effort to break this ..." |
| 04:30.33 | seebs | Yes. |
| 04:30.34 | Noshei | though there is very limited reasons to have more than 1 character |
| 04:30.36 | Ivnedar | thing=think |
| 04:30.40 | seebs | Well, RP, mostly. |
| 04:31.11 | seebs | That, and bank alts, because you get a total of 40 auction slots per character AND they are divided so that each set of 20 is in a specific city, and someone in another city buying from you has to pay extra. |
| 04:31.11 | Noshei | yeah thats the only reason I could think of |
| 04:31.31 | Ivnedar | interesting way of doing ah |
| 04:31.36 | seebs | Oh. |
| 04:31.48 | seebs | And personal bank storage, of any sort whatsoever? Locked until you do the story quests up through level 20 or so. |
| 04:31.51 | Noshei | oh I didn't know the tax was higher if you buy from one in a different city |
| 04:32.03 | seebs | Yup. And they carefully restrict you to two of the three cities at most... |
| 04:32.11 | Ivnedar | that brings back memories of wow with their cross faction ah and the extra cost there |
| 04:32.30 | seebs | You can *see* them from anywhere. It just costs more to buy stuff that's not at the local AH. |
| 04:32.42 | Noshei | I don't think many people know of that added cost, it must not be very much. |
| 04:32.44 | seebs | So for big-ticket items, it is worth spending the money to teleport to the city they're listed in. |
| 04:32.56 | seebs | They are pretty up-front about it in the game, as I recall. |
| 04:33.10 | Ivnedar | imagine if the in game mail system worked that way too, you pick which mailbox to send an item to for a person, the further away it is, the more it costs |
| 04:33.12 | Noshei | if you read the tooltips |
| 04:33.19 | seebs | It may be smallish, but large enough that I've seen people comment on spending hundreds of gil to avoid paying it. |
| 04:33.27 | seebs | So far as I can tell, in-game mail is free. |
| 04:33.42 | Noshei | it is, but you can only send mail to people on your friends list |
| 04:33.52 | seebs | Yeah. Which is why you can't send mail to alts. |
| 04:34.09 | seebs | As to Rift... Frankly, I enjoy some aspects of Rift a lot more than anything in FF14. FF14's healing is painful. |
| 04:34.13 | Ivnedar | ahh, ok, that makes more sense (as to why it's broken technically) |
| 04:34.39 | Noshei | what class are you playing for healer? |
| 04:34.41 | seebs | The entire game is limited by a 2.5 second GCD, as well as the fact that animations can effectively block you from using abilities. So off-GCD powers can be unusable even though in theory they're up and not on cooldown. |
| 04:35.16 | seebs | Well, CNJ so far, since that's the only one that exists until much higher levels. Being sort of easily-distracted, I've gotten all the classes to 11 or higher on my most active character, all the crafts to 16+, and nothing above 23 yet. |
| 04:35.52 | Noshei | yeah animation lock can be painful, but once you figure out what each ability does for animation it is pretty easy to work with. |
| 04:36.14 | seebs | But a 2.5s GCD means that it's all fairly slow, and there's not a lot of variety. No quick/slow heals, not much for instant HoTs or whatever. It's... There's one healing style for CNJ/WHM, one for SCH. And neither is very deep, so far as I can tell. |
| 04:36.24 | Noshei | I've got cnj to 15 or so I think, had to level it for SCH. |
| 04:36.24 | seebs | Ahh, see. The animation is a problem for me because I mostly can't see animations. |
| 04:37.16 | Noshei | for me I really dont look at the animation I just get a feel for when I can use abilities from spamming the next ability I want to use and seeing when it actually goes off |
| 04:37.19 | TinnerKB | Whew, almost got everything converted over to canvas now. The configuration screens were hell as everything works so differently |
| 04:37.20 | seebs | Basically, I can see where characters are, but most of the time there's too much happening on-screen for me to actually see what they're DOING, so I just see them and get an impression of whether or not they appear to be casting-or-fighting. |
| 04:38.20 | Noshei | healing in general is pretty limited in the game, though I think that adds a significant amount of challange to it |
| 04:38.23 | seebs | So, I definitely miss Rift's healing options, and I suspect I will feel the same way about the tanking stuff. Rift's combat mechanics are in many ways more fun for me, although I do like FF14's greater emphasis on telegraphed AoEs to avoid, since those add some interest to fights. |
| 04:38.56 | seebs | But... By and large, I see people being friendly and talking about the game, not trying to troll things up and start political flame wars. |
| 04:39.15 | Noshei | as a SCH I have 4 healing abilities and a dmg reduction cd |
| 04:39.31 | seebs | Basically, I will put up with a lot of boring combat for a game where someone like Ibby would not be around for a year or longer. |
| 04:39.37 | Noshei | 3 oh those abilites are single target |
| 04:39.56 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 04:40.34 | seebs | Much less variety of combat options in general, and everything's really slow. I am told the "everything's really slow" is mandated by the PS3 support, as is the relatively tiny list of options for any given character. |
| 04:40.41 | seebs | So in the future that may improve. |
| 04:40.41 | Noshei | one of those is the main spam and decent haling for low mana, one is high cost less healing but does a shield and the last one is a cd of sorts |
| 04:41.34 | seebs | Note also that I basically hate playing DPS in groups, so I am much interested in the options for healing and tanking. :) |
| 04:41.53 | Noshei | so managing my cd's and mana are something that I have to think about constantly while healing and also select the right ability for the situation |
| 04:42.45 | Noshei | oh and SCH is also very dependant on their pets for healing as well. |
| 04:43.02 | Noshei | which is very interesting |
| 04:43.11 | Noshei | and can be very frustrating |
| 04:43.19 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 04:43.49 | Noshei | but now that I have the pet mostly figured out it is far easier than a couple weeks ago. |
| 04:44.03 | Noshei | what server are you on seebs? |
| 04:44.25 | seebs | Balmung. Picked it because I knew a few people playing there. |
| 04:44.32 | seebs | Come to think of it, I think Elrar said he was playing there, too. |
| 04:44.40 | Noshei | ah ok, ah nice |
| 04:45.21 | Noshei | I'm on Diabolos |
| 04:45.25 | seebs | And I used my usual strategy: Find an "LGBT-friendly" guild, and if they don't boot me for having an inappropriate sense of humor within a day or two, I'm usually fine. |
| 04:45.39 | Noshei | lol |
| 04:45.55 | Noshei | i got in a hc fc with some people I raided with in rift |
| 04:46.31 | Noshei | we had like the first 5 or so lvl 50's and server first on all 3 primals and the first boss of Coil of Bahamut |
| 04:46.35 | seebs | Nice! |
| 04:47.00 | Noshei | I think we have like 4 active 8 man groups right now as well |
| 04:47.09 | seebs | There are aspects of the crafting I dislike, mostly that I don't like the amount of RNG involved. |
| 04:47.17 | Noshei | trying to keep our numbers strong for when the 24 mans come out |
| 04:47.19 | seebs | But I do quite like that crafting is a non-trivial thing that you can think about. |
| 04:47.44 | Noshei | yeah crafting is pretty interesting, and kinda a pain |
| 04:48.13 | seebs | Main thing to know: Get weaver to 15 ASAP, then use Careful Synthesis as your main crafting ability. |
| 04:49.46 | Noshei | yeah I really never needed to do that |
| 04:50.10 | Noshei | I've only ever failed a dozen or so synths |
| 04:50.19 | Noshei | cause I steady hand everything |
| 04:50.50 | seebs | It turns out, if you're careful and pay attention, you can pretty much HQ 90% of things from NQ materials. |
| 04:50.59 | Noshei | yeah |
| 04:51.34 | Noshei | though it does get a bit tougher at higher levels |
| 04:51.53 | Noshei | I was one of the firsts 50 ALC's on the server |
| 04:52.10 | Noshei | that was a huge pain |
| 04:54.45 | seebs | I imagine! |
| 04:55.02 | seebs | There's an interesting thread on reddit analyzing ways to maximize successful crafting, it's full of interesting interactions. |
| 05:08.47 | Ivnedar | bleh, regretting upgrading my phone to ios7 |
| 05:43.47 | *** join/#riftuidev Alystin (~alystin@ip-5-146-170-181.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 05:52.39 | Thorarin | Hmm, mine is in the middle of the update now :S |
| 06:12.47 | Thorarin | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.54 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 06:12.59 | Thorarin | My phone turned into a toy or smt |
| 06:13.04 | Ivnedar | it's like they've been taking lessons from playskool |
| 06:13.35 | Ivnedar | all the effort in getting to retina displays and looking all pretty and they've regressed to coloured blocks |
| 06:14.18 | Ivnedar | functionally it's good, visually it's "what were you thinking?" |
| 06:14.32 | Thorarin | Kinda like Windows 8 :P |
| 06:14.36 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 06:58.18 | tubsawubs | Hah, moaning about long GCDs? I tried to play a Rift warrior and gave up after level 20. :-\ |
| 06:59.12 | ZorbaBeta | I can't help but wonder if there are better mechanics than GCDs. Tough to come up with one, though. |
| 07:07.59 | tubsawubs | Tbh it's not the GCD itself ZorbaBeta, it's the fact that the animation continues after the GCD, and the damage is applied about 0.5s after that. |
| 07:08.39 | tubsawubs | Which is really weird, because melee rogues do not seem to have the same issue. Druid/Shaman isn't as fluid as rogue (even with the -.5 gcd on Shaman) but still way way better than Warrior. |
| 07:09.43 | ZorbaBeta | part of that is honestly just an illusion created by the animation |
| 07:10.16 | ZorbaBeta | it's surprising how important those can be. game design is at least 50% illusion and trickery |
| 07:10.27 | ZorbaBeta | unfortunately in this case the illusion works against us |
| 07:10.51 | tubsawubs | Oh, entirely unrelated, but on Plaza Aurentine (dimension) you can fall through the floor and walk on the bottom of the canal (did a quick google and couldn't find anything re: that glitch). Also get really weird backside rendering issues. |
| 07:11.04 | ZorbaBeta | huh, that's a new one |
| 07:11.13 | ZorbaBeta | what are your video settings like? low, high, intermediate? |
| 07:11.23 | tubsawubs | high+ |
| 07:11.31 | ZorbaBeta | well, so much for that idea :V |
| 07:11.46 | tubsawubs | But it happens to everyone, you can clip through a part of the geometry, then you're "behind/below" the scene. |
| 07:12.15 | tubsawubs | I'll get a capture of the exact point when I'm not at work. |
| 07:12.32 | ZorbaBeta | we've got a patch in the works that should fix that for people with lower graphics details - it was possible to ramp that down so low that it wouldn't load some of the collision meshes |
| 07:12.34 | ZorbaBeta | which is obviously bad |
| 07:12.45 | ZorbaBeta | but there may be glitches beyond that problem as well |
| 07:13.03 | tubsawubs | Also, entirely unrelated to that (I'm really sorry, I tend to break things), are you supposed to not get your action bars/shortcuts during dimension editing mode? |
| 07:13.21 | Ivnedar | hee hee, that was fun with storm legion launch |
| 07:13.27 | ZorbaBeta | I *think* so, yeah - I think the dimension tools replace the action bars |
| 07:13.34 | tubsawubs | Go to dimension edit mode -> /reloadui |
| 07:13.36 | Ivnedar | some of the tempest bay collision meshes only existed at particular graphic levels |
| 07:14.02 | ZorbaBeta | I don't think it's considered a big problem if you do, though, it's just a visual convenience thing |
| 07:14.04 | tubsawubs | You get all your bars back (which has the side effect of being able to keybind macros to dimension toolbox/dimension addons which is really really nice). |
| 07:14.13 | tubsawubs | *nods* |
| 07:15.14 | tubsawubs | Ivnedar: The Plaza Aurentine dimension is kinda part of Tempest Bay? Maybe it's a holdover bug from way back? |
| 07:15.47 | Ivnedar | probably |
| 07:15.49 | Ivnedar | how's the bridge? |
| 07:15.53 | Ivnedar | out at the docks |
| 07:15.55 | Ivnedar | that was the worst |
| 07:16.08 | Ivnedar | or can't you get that far out |
| 07:16.16 | tubsawubs | ZorbaBeta: Did you get my pm from last night by the way (irc at home is flaky). |
| 07:16.26 | tubsawubs | Ivnedar: can't get that far out, but the glitch is close to there. |
| 07:16.47 | ZorbaBeta | tub, yep, will check it out when I get in to work |
| 07:16.52 | tubsawubs | Ivnedar: I believe you end up under the docks themselves, so you are underwater but not swimming. |
| 07:17.00 | tubsawubs | Ok, cheers, just making sure I hadn't messed something up. :) |
| 07:17.20 | Ivnedar | tubsawubs: sounds like where I spent a while at sl launch :D |
| 07:17.22 | Ivnedar | testing stuff |
| 07:17.42 | tubsawubs | It's actually quite cool, because you get inverse reflections from the water surface almost, and you can build stuff under there. |
| 07:19.52 | Ivnedar | they added ceilings to the dimension bounds now right? |
| 07:19.58 | Ivnedar | so you can't build over the wall any more |
| 07:20.03 | tubsawubs | Yeah, the plaza one is really low too. |
| 07:20.07 | tubsawubs | Stone flask is very high |
| 07:20.36 | tubsawubs | Oooh, 2.4 tonight? I can finally play with canvas. :D |
| 07:21.27 | NuSuey | hello everyone ;) |
| 07:21.42 | Ivnedar | It's been up for 15 hours in NA now :D |
| 07:22.04 | Ivnedar | downtime was only an hour, instead of the estimated 2 hours |
| 07:22.06 | NuSuey | I'm so freaking happy that Rift is playing awesome on my Linux (ubuntu 13.10) .. having great fps..now I can finally start thinking about ditching windows :P |
| 07:25.02 | tubsawubs | " * The damage and HP of all mobs in the old Telara world have been increased, except for raid mobs." -> increase levelling time? |
| 07:25.25 | Ivnedar | probably to combat stat inflation |
| 07:25.32 | NuSuey | Ivnedar: agree |
| 07:26.04 | NuSuey | btw still haven't showed Volan to my GF, like you suggested :P |
| 07:26.12 | tubsawubs | But while levelling the old world stats are still the same no? |
| 07:30.17 | Ivnedar | they're all still linked into the same player ability damage sliders |
| 07:30.22 | Ivnedar | so maybe those got out of whack |
| 07:30.59 | ZorbaBeta | sorta, yes and no. gear is more available, at least partially thanks to the rift store. and there are more augments and runes and the like than there were at release. and, of course, there's just plain more abilities now |
| 07:31.42 | Ivnedar | So it felt like it was too easy at the lower levels? |
| 07:31.43 | ZorbaBeta | many of which weren't really all that balanced for old-world content :V |
| 07:31.49 | Ivnedar | *nod* |
| 07:32.10 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, and it probably was too easy. people need to get a few abilities off to feel like they're having fun, if they're just oneshotting everything and pulling packs of, like, five monsters, it's usually bad for entertainment. |
| 07:39.27 | tubsawubs | ZorbaBeta: I don't disagree, as long as it doesn't get as painful as certain points in the SL levelling progression. |
| 07:39.48 | Ivnedar | oh, ZorbaBeta, did you see the response to your 2.4 api change post? |
| 07:39.51 | ZorbaBeta | yeah it's a really tricky balance |
| 07:39.55 | Ivnedar | questions about canvas |
| 07:40.10 | ZorbaBeta | lemme take a look |
| 07:40.15 | ZorbaBeta | once I can convince my cat to stop attacking my leg |
| 07:40.24 | tubsawubs | ZorbaBeta: Did the armor algorithm change from 1-50/50+ As in, how level difference changes % reduction. |
| 07:40.24 | Ivnedar | Good luck with that! |
| 07:40.32 | tubsawubs | Give it a mousey! |
| 07:40.43 | ZorbaBeta | tub, I honestly don't know. Sorry! I tend to not do gameplay coding :) |
| 07:40.56 | ZorbaBeta | also, that doesn't help - he brings the mouse back and then claws at my leg to get my attention so I'll throw it again |
| 07:41.12 | ZorbaBeta | (yes, my cat plays fetch) |
| 07:46.24 | Ivnedar | Guess what the first thing my wife spent time doing in 2.4 |
| 07:47.00 | tubsawubs | ZorbaBeta: So does mine! I tried to teach him when he was a kitten but he didn't understand. Then one day out of nowhere he just dumped mousey at my computer chair and starting meowing/patting me until I throw it. |
| 07:47.31 | Ivnedar | She's at the barber's attempting to find the perfect hair colour to match her outfit |
| 07:48.03 | Ivnedar | The new colours pack was a good idea :) |
| 07:48.20 | ZorbaBeta | http://imgur.com/a/eyl8z I've been taking photos of my kitty ever since we got him :3 he's gotten significantly larger |
| 07:48.37 | tubsawubs | Aww, give! |
| 07:48.52 | ZorbaBeta | did! click link :D |
| 07:49.39 | ZorbaBeta | last two pictures are actually from last weekend - helping my wife with her homework. :P |
| 07:49.52 | tubsawubs | TWO cats?! Are they related? |
| 07:50.03 | tubsawubs | They are so yingy yangy. |
| 07:50.12 | ZorbaBeta | not related - the black cat is much older. Black cat is Myung, that's the wife's cat. Grey cat is Space King, that's mine. |
| 07:50.41 | NuSuey | ZorbaBeta: cute as hell! |
| 07:51.46 | ZorbaBeta | he's turned into a very cute kitty. and when he's not trying to play with myung, they get along fine |
| 07:52.25 | tubsawubs | Prepare for spam: http://imgur.com/a/nzsnn/all (very baby) http://imgur.com/a/46SWo#0 (less baby) |
| 07:52.41 | tubsawubs | http://i.imgur.com/0PLmptG.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/YjpBHQm.jpg (recent) |
| 07:53.00 | ZorbaBeta | those are some impressive ears :D |
| 07:53.21 | tubsawubs | Batcat! |
| 07:53.37 | ZorbaBeta | fantastic fur coloring. I like the matching cat bed :V |
| 07:54.43 | tubsawubs | I stole it from my mum's cat for him. :x |
| 07:54.52 | ZorbaBeta | that works ^^ |
| 07:55.43 | ZorbaBeta | I'm off to bed, cya all |
| 07:55.52 | tubsawubs | G'night zorba, give kitties cuddles! |
| 07:55.57 | ZorbaBeta | will do :) |
| 07:56.22 | Ivnedar | nite :) |
| 08:02.56 | NuSuey | nite |
| 08:03.00 | NuSuey | anybody who isnt asleep? |
| 08:05.25 | Ivnedar | yup |
| 08:10.18 | NuSuey | Ivnedar: why aren't you sleeping?:p |
| 08:11.57 | Ivnedar | because it's 6pm? |
| 08:12.29 | NuSuey | ah :) where do you live? |
| 08:12.34 | Ivnedar | australia :) |
| 08:13.19 | NuSuey | Ivnedar: ah ;) europe here. |
| 08:27.20 | seebs | I had a grey cat like that. Then he turned into a black-and-white cat. |
| 08:28.28 | seebs | There's a tradeoff with levelling/combat speed. One thing is, pre-SL Rift allowed sab/sin builds for levelling, SL really doesn't because you simply can't kill things fast enough for a glass cannon to be viable. |
| 08:29.00 | seebs | Anyway, zzz, back later. |
| 09:09.26 | Ivnedar | well, our cluster just died |
| 09:09.38 | Ivnedar | (na cluster 2) |
| 10:05.05 | tubsawubs | Bring it back to life. |
| 10:05.18 | Ivnedar | back now, but latency is all over the place :( |
| 10:31.07 | tubsawubs | What cluster is this (what does Ivnedar do?) |
| 10:32.06 | Ivnedar | rift shard, na cluster 2 |
| 10:35.17 | tubsawubs | Ahh I thought you meant *your* cluster, not your rift cluster! |
| 10:35.23 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 11:16.56 | tubsawubs | Screw this addon layout bullcrap, time to write a ui designer ._. |
| 12:49.30 | Ivnedar | lol, playing rift with 40k+ latency is interesting |
| 12:49.41 | Ivnedar | trying to guess how to react based on voice chat |
| 12:52.07 | Ivnedar | ZorbaBeta: getting 30-40 fps, so that's nice |
| 13:28.28 | NuSuey | I'm wondering how will 2.4 work via wine .. |
| 13:53.03 | Ivnedar | thought someone else mentioned it worked great now |
| 14:07.29 | NuSuey | Ivnedar: well, I wrote today that 2.3 worked awesome on my 13.10 ubuntu via the open source drivers (~ 25-30fps) on higher settings...before ~ 10 fps on the lowest settings ..some wine improvments in wine helped a TON ;) |
| 14:07.55 | TinnerKB | Zorba, you around? |
| 14:09.11 | NuSuey | *some improvments in wine |
| 14:09.20 | NuSuey | particular in 1.7.1 |
| 14:09.58 | NuSuey | like I told already.. I can really think of ditching windows.. with such good framerate in rift :) |
| 14:10.22 | NuSuey | but have no clue how the fps is in 2.4 |
| 14:10.33 | NuSuey | will have to wait a hour and test it :) |
| 14:12.49 | TinnerKB | ZorbaBeta I replied in forums in the Discussions thread. If you get a chance, take a look pls. |
| 14:13.21 | NuSuey | TinnerKB: just wondering, what it is about? :P |
| 14:13.27 | TinnerKB | canvas |
| 14:13.39 | TinnerKB | I use it extensively in RiftHud |
| 14:15.54 | TinnerKB | I hope to have a new version out soon. Really depends on how long it will take me to tie in these orbs to the code that is written for arcs :) |
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| 15:50.59 | tubsawubs | Hmm |
| 15:51.03 | tubsawubs | Let's see if this works... |
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| 15:54.56 | tubsawubs | test |
| 15:54.58 | tubsawubs | balls |
| 15:55.52 | TinnerKB | was it pass or fail? |
| 15:55.59 | TinnerKB | oh he left :( |
| 15:56.04 | tubsawubs_ | pAha. |
| 15:56.10 | tubsawubs_ | Success. |
| 15:56.23 | TinnerKB | guess so |
| 15:57.18 | tubsawubs | Right, I think this is working now. |
| 15:57.20 | TinnerKB | right in the middle of coding and the servers decide to patch |
| 15:57.24 | tubsawubs | *pats* |
| 15:57.29 | tubsawubs | That's programming for you. |
| 15:58.03 | TinnerKB | I "think" i have it all converted now, just need to bugcheck it |
| 15:59.26 | TinnerKB | will be replacing 120+ textures with Canvas |
| 16:00.12 | tubsawubs | err, did I just spam the channel? |
| 16:00.19 | TinnerKB | not this one |
| 16:00.39 | tubsawubs | Great, so everything is working. (Just setting up an irc bouncer so I don't lose messages when I go home). |
| 16:01.56 | tubsawubs | Talking of which, it's time to go home! *waves* |
| 16:23.40 | TinnerKB | Bug: In SetPath, stroke table, the thickness = 0 displays some scattered pixels on screen |
| 16:26.18 | tubsawubs | Excellent. |
| 16:26.22 | tubsawubs | Home but still wubs. |
| 18:03.56 | Thorarin | Well, the floor still disappears in 2.4 :P |
| 18:07.39 | Thorarin | 76FPS in GA tho \o/ |
| 18:28.02 | seebs | Well, that's something. |
| 18:57.47 | Thorarin | With anti-aliasing I'm getting weird font double-drawing tho |
| 19:13.25 | seebs | I wonder whether that's a workaround for a problem that some people had where fonts weren't showing up with antialiasing on in some cases. |
| 19:14.46 | Thorarin | Maybe, but it makes them look weirdly bold |
| 19:27.14 | Repo | king-molinator: kekoas * r747 (6 files in 3 directories): (747) Release 1.5.2 |
| 19:32.08 | tubsawubs | ZorbaBeta, nerf sab please. |
| 19:32.14 | tubsawubs | ._. |
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| 22:09.13 | Repo | click-box-healer: Solsis00 master * v1.8.10 (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] [*] Fixed a bug in the new buff additions that caused a nil value for new users. |
| 22:09.13 | Repo | click-box-healer: Solsis00 v1.8.10 * d754ad3 /: [new tag] release v1.8.10 |
| 22:11.59 | Repo | yague: baanano * r23 (14 files in 2 directories): - Updated to the new event model |
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| 22:42.42 | tubsawubs | ZorbaBeta, you around by any chance? |
