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| 06:33.35 | Alystin | Morning all :) |
| 06:35.50 | Ivnedar | morning :) |
| 06:38.54 | Alystin | Can it be possible to kick the globals (like Command.*) out of scope somehow? |
| 06:39.39 | Ivnedar | you don't want them any more? |
| 06:41.23 | Alystin | Of course i do^^ But i seem to have managed it somehow |
| 06:41.49 | Alystin | I was trying to split my code over multiple files |
| 06:42.00 | Ivnedar | oh, is this your problem from before where you used setfenv? |
| 06:42.10 | Alystin | ... i guess so |
| 06:42.38 | Alystin | oh yeah, yesterday i posted a pastebin regarding that |
| 06:43.16 | Ivnedar | so you'd need to push things you want to still exist into private before you make that the environment I assume |
| 06:44.28 | Alystin | hehe - tbh i don't have a clue how to realize that... i tried to look at other ppls code to figure out how to do it, but it wasn't really that helpful |
| 06:45.25 | Alystin | i read in the wiki that you'd need the >local addon, private = ...< at the start of every file |
| 06:47.19 | Ivnedar | so calling setfenv(1, private) outside of a function would change the environment for the whole thing to private instead of _G |
| 06:47.25 | Ivnedar | from my understanding of it |
| 06:47.59 | Ivnedar | so if you wanted to do that, you'd need to first do something like private.Command = Command |
| 06:48.27 | Ivnedar | for any of the globals you want to use after the setfenv |
| 06:48.50 | Alystin | oh yeah, i see |
| 06:49.26 | Alystin | I used that bit from imhotar's Bags... And in there he copies a lot of functions to his addon |
| 06:49.45 | Ivnedar | http://forums.riftgame.com/technical-discussions/addon-api-development/303524-namespace-cleanup-addon-savedvariables-2.html#post3651744 |
| 06:49.48 | Ivnedar | that one may help |
| 06:51.41 | Alystin | aaah |
| 06:51.44 | Alystin | yeah :D |
| 06:53.20 | Alystin | So, technically, i'd have to copy the global functions i'd use to private and call them like private.Command.Attach etc |
| 06:54.20 | Ivnedar | once you've done the setfenv(1, private) you don't need to put private. at the front |
| 06:54.30 | Ivnedar | there's an implicity private. at the front of everything you do |
| 06:54.42 | Alystin | uh sure, because private. is already the namespace we look up stuff in |
| 06:54.44 | Ivnedar | which is why it couldn't find Command.Attach any more, you've effectively told it to use private.Command.Attach |
| 06:54.47 | Ivnedar | yup yup |
| 06:54.48 | Alystin | yup |
| 06:54.52 | Alystin | now i get it^^ |
| 06:54.55 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 06:55.02 | Alystin | yay :D |
| 07:04.16 | Alystin | and private would be my new "global"... |
| 07:04.54 | Alystin | so if i declare a local var in another file, i should be able to access it from foile 1, no? |
| 07:06.08 | Alystin | foile? *file |
| 07:21.39 | Alystin | oh wait... it won't be necessary to declare local variables whil in the private environment, as they already are local |
| 07:27.06 | Ivnedar | you'd need to push the local var into one of the two tables that come back from ... |
| 07:27.14 | Ivnedar | so that the other file can access it |
| 07:27.43 | Ivnedar | if you're using private as your new environment in both files, you could remove the local keyword and it would magically share between them |
| 07:27.59 | Alystin | "magically"... lol |
| 07:28.29 | Ivnedar | from memory, the two tables you get back are shared slightly differently |
| 07:28.34 | Alystin | learning by doing is fine and all, but sometimes you get trapped by not having basic knwledge^^ |
| 07:28.38 | Ivnedar | first table can be accessed by another addon if it asks for it |
| 07:28.47 | Ivnedar | second table is only available to that addon |
| 07:29.37 | Ivnedar | so you'd use the first table as your "public methods and variables" and the second one as your "private internal things that only I care about, but want to share between files" |
| 07:30.02 | Alystin | so it could be wise to push stuff to the first table if i wanted to provide some kind of interface for other addons? |
| 07:30.08 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 07:30.29 | Ivnedar | If another addon calls Inspect.Addon.Detail("youraddonname") then they get back the first table |
| 07:30.48 | Ivnedar | as the .data table in the results |
| 07:30.53 | Ivnedar | I wonder if they can get the second one |
| 07:30.55 | Ivnedar | looks it up |
| 07:31.19 | Ivnedar | looks like it only gets the first table |
| 07:33.37 | Alystin | and... by "push into table" you mean like local var = {} and then addon.var = var? |
| 07:47.36 | Baanano | both tables are accesible by other addons, Inspect.Addon.Detail returns the first one, and the second one is first.data |
| 07:48.05 | Ivnedar | ah, ok :) |
| 08:02.13 | NuSuey | oftopic: anyone a tip for a good website hosting? got a domain name, just not the hosting :) |
| 08:02.19 | NuSuey | :p |
| 08:03.55 | seebs | For smallish traffic, NearlyFreeSpeech is pretty good. |
| 08:04.01 | seebs | zzz |
| 08:06.32 | NuSuey | seebs: at first the traffic will be very small :P |
| 08:07.11 | NuSuey | the NFS sounds pretty okay :) and I need PHP+MySQL so it's perfect |
| 13:39.51 | Baanano | don't understand ferather's bug :s is it supposed to be a bug on the api or a bug in his addon? |
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| 21:08.42 | seebs | http://codecrap.com/content/914/ <-- next week, we will learn about abstractions. |
| 21:17.40 | Baanano | what's that seebs? |
| 21:19.24 | seebs | Just a web site full of horrific code. |
| 21:20.16 | seebs | Oh, that's beautifully done. |
| 21:20.19 | seebs | I am impressed. |
| 21:20.37 | seebs | / The following C code, compiled with g++ -ansi, prints -2. |
| 21:20.39 | seebs | / What??/ |
| 21:20.41 | seebs | int compl = 0; |
| 21:20.43 | seebs | int z = compl + 1; |
| 21:20.45 | seebs | printf("%d\n", z); |
| 21:20.47 | seebs | (Those are //, not /) |
| 21:20.51 | seebs | That is very clever. |
| 21:26.53 | Baanano | why? |
| 21:27.07 | Baanano | also, i thought ansi c didn't allow // comments |
| 21:29.47 | seebs | It has since 1999, but the gimmick is the use of g++. |
| 21:29.54 | seebs | And -ansi actually matters. |
| 21:30.19 | seebs | The trick: <iso646.h> in C defined keywords which mapped to particular symbols or punctuation, like "and" for &&. |
| 21:30.24 | seebs | In C++, they're just alternative keywords. |
| 21:30.30 | seebs | One of them is "compl", and it is ~ |
| 21:30.38 | seebs | Also, ??/ is a trigraph for \ |
| 21:30.52 | seebs | So in ansi mode, G++ sees // What\int compl = 0; |
| 21:30.55 | seebs | which is a comment that it ignores |
| 21:31.09 | seebs | And then sees a line that is equivalent to "int z = ~ + 1;" |
| 21:31.18 | seebs | and +1 == 1, and ~1 == -2. |
| 21:32.05 | Baanano | wow |
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| 23:54.34 | seebs | Anyone here (1) use gmail and (2) not have any prior contact with me, or encounters with my email address that gmail would know of? I have suspicions that they are silently dropping mail from my machine, but can't prove it. |