| 01:33.05 | seebs | Whoops. |
| 01:33.19 | seebs | I think I found a bug in the mail API. |
| 01:33.41 | seebs | It appears that if your bags are full, you will still see an Event.Mail for an item claiming it has no attachments before the mail API realizes that the take failed. |
| 01:35.45 | seebs | Soo, there's a couple hundred fewer items I have to dispose of. |
| 01:36.16 | seebs | I think I wish to reassert my claim that it is a very bad thing that there is no way to do a conditional delete which CANNOT delete an item. |
| 01:39.52 | seebs | Ohh, interesting. |
| 01:40.00 | seebs | "You cannot send mail while items are in your overflow..." |
| 01:40.12 | seebs | … This will be hard to address, since I don't have a way to clear space now. |
| 01:40.42 | ZorbaTHut | toss a few things in your bank? |
| 01:41.19 | seebs | I might have >100 items in overflow. |
| 01:41.40 | Noshei | doubtful |
| 01:41.49 | seebs | I think I had not realized that Command.Mail.Take would not report a failure if there was no space. |
| 01:41.56 | seebs | Also, my "only do at most N" code apparently had a bug. |
| 01:41.57 | Noshei | overflow seems to cap at about 20 items and anything after that is deleted |
| 01:42.12 | seebs | Okay. Well, that's possible. I had a few hundred items in mail, and they all disappeared somewhere. |
| 01:46.08 | seebs | Interesting. Nothing happens until I try to send mail, at which point suddenly all my inventory slots fill up again. |
| 01:46.29 | Noshei | yeah |
| 01:56.09 | seebs | … Oh, and I can't *trade* because my inventory is full. |
| 01:56.15 | seebs | So I can't give things away, or mail them. |
| 01:56.24 | Noshei | yup |
| 01:56.37 | Noshei | overflow bag is horribly implemented |
| 01:56.46 | ZorbaTHut | yeah the overflow mechanics are kind of annoying. and Command.Mail.Take is kind of bugged - it shouldn't let you try if your bags are full :/ |
| 01:56.52 | Noshei | only way to get rid of stuff is your bank, guild bank, or vendor |
| 01:57.01 | ZorbaTHut | you can probably contact a GM and get them to mail you your overflow bag |
| 01:57.17 | Noshei | in 10-52 days, sure |
| 01:57.29 | seebs | I've also been converting things. I don't know how to evaluate the contents of the overflow bag, though. |
| 01:57.56 | Noshei | there isn't anyway to do that |
| 01:58.51 | seebs | Yeah, so I don't really know how much stuff I have left to clear out. Probably … I dunno, hundred or two hundred items, though. |
| 01:59.34 | Noshei | what server are you on? |
| 01:59.45 | seebs | Faeblight. |
| 02:00.03 | Noshei | give me a sec |
| 02:00.14 | seebs | Okay, so, in total, I had 327 items incoming. |
| 02:00.27 | Noshei | I could transfer over my bank guild it has 2 tabs |
| 02:00.32 | seebs | I had at least 150ish slots free, maybe a few more, and a lot of things convert. |
| 02:00.34 | seebs | Oh, don't bother. |
| 02:00.40 | seebs | I have access to a guild bank, come to think of it. |
| 02:06.33 | seebs | Ah-hah! Can post auctions. |
| 02:06.47 | seebs | … but only if I have an open slot. |
| 02:06.58 | seebs | So I posted an auction, overflow bag expanded, and now I can't post auctions. |
| 02:07.53 | Noshei | lol |
| 02:08.05 | Noshei | gotta love that damn overflow bag |
| 02:08.40 | seebs | Oh, wait, the auction fails, because as soon as it THINKS about doing the auction, it triggers an expansion. |
| 02:08.57 | Noshei | yup |
| 02:09.17 | Noshei | bank, guild bank, or vendor, those are your options |
| 02:09.31 | Noshei | * or discard |
| 02:09.44 | seebs | haha. |
| 02:09.48 | seebs | I can't put things in the guild bank. |
| 02:09.56 | seebs | Error: Free up some inventory space. |
| 02:09.58 | Noshei | lol |
| 02:13.51 | seebs | Now I see, this has all been a SINISTER PLOT. |
| 02:14.10 | seebs | See, back when the overflow bag was implemented, they KNEW that f2p was coming, so they designed the overflow bag to make bank vaults suddenly much more appealing. |
| 02:15.17 | Noshei | overflow bag has been in the game since launch |
| 02:15.26 | seebs | My conspiracy theory is AWESOME. |
| 02:15.33 | Noshei | lol |
| 02:15.50 | Noshei | I give it 1.5/5 stars |
| 02:22.17 | seebs | Success! Got enough stuff cleared out that I can move things now. |
| 02:36.21 | Noshei | gratz seebs you beat the TRION TROLL |
| 02:39.58 | seebs | Heh. |
| 03:37.24 | Noshei | interesting /follow works just fine in cq |
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| 03:50.56 | Noshei | I think my computer is dying |
| 06:12.16 | seebs | Well, that took … roughly six hours. |
| 06:16.45 | Ivnedar | giving away everything? |
| 06:16.52 | seebs | Yup. |
| 06:16.59 | Ivnedar | how'd you go about it? |
| 06:17.17 | seebs | With the exception of alts on other shards I never look at, I have exactly one item which isn't soulbound or account-bound, under 1p1g on every character. |
| 06:17.48 | seebs | Basically, Step 1: Pick a character who has a ton of bag space. Step 2: Mail everything from every other alt to that character. Step 3: Gather all the items. Step 4: Mail them out in batches of 40-50 or so to people from the RP community. |
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| 14:00.43 | Thorarin | Oh, I used USB tethering at the time |
| 14:00.58 | Thorarin | Also needs some driver tho |
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| 18:20.37 | Imhothar | argh another argument against multiboxers: they cause more work for me |
| 18:21.28 | Imhothar | since the item data is saved as "global" for people with multiple accounts the clients overwrite each other's SavedVariables and now try to explain that to the average joe |
| 19:33.44 | seebs | If I am running multiple clients, I make interface directories for each client in its own directory. |
| 19:35.11 | Thorarin | What does having multiple accounts have to do with multiboxing per se? |
| 19:37.18 | seebs | It's not multiple accounts, it's multiple running clients on the same computer at the same time, and the global savedvariables files get overwritten if there are two clients running with the same interface directory. |
| 19:37.20 | seebs | brb. |
| 19:38.06 | Thorarin | I guess that's why it always messes up for my gf :/ |
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| 21:15.44 | Imhothar | "horror movie", a synonym for stupid (teenage) people with absolutely no survival instincts |
| 21:29.33 | Imhothar | it hurts my brain watching such movies |
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| 23:00.53 | seebs | Baanano: If you're interested, I have an addon sitting around which requires BananAH, and adds estimated-price tooltips next to regular tooltips, and also has the ability to automatically make macros for mentioning going rates for items in chat. If you want it, either for consideration as possible features for BananAH (I think the price tooltips would be awesome) or as its own thing, it's free for the taking. |
| 23:18.13 | LeadGuitar | I need an addon that keeps me from disconnecting due to inactivity :/ |
| 23:26.56 | seebs | I think that's intentionally impossible. |
| 23:32.26 | LeadGuitar | Yeah, but it happens to me so often and then I have to hunt down my phone to authenticate. |
| 23:39.02 | Noshei | gah, wish I had something else I wanted to play more right now |
| 23:39.18 | Noshei | I think I'm ready to give up on rift, but don't have anything else to play right now |
| 23:43.41 | seebs | I'm thinking of messing with TSW and/or DDO for a while. DDO's got an expansion pack which overhauls their "enhancements" (similar-ish to talent trees) coming up, which just entered a brief period of open beta. |
| 23:44.07 | seebs | And I can always play Path of Exile, which is playable as a fairly fun single-player Diablo clone which happens to have a chat system. |
| 23:45.03 | seebs | Grinding Gear has done a couple of very interesting things. Most interesting, to me: (1) They have a very nice chat reporting system that lets you pick a category of problem, and add comments, and automatically includes logs. (2) Genuine feedback. I've gotten things like "you're not the first person to complain about his behavior, we'll talk to him and see whether we think he needs a time-out". |
| 23:45.25 | seebs | So the forums have posts which have been edited to show nothing but a mod note, and the poster has "On Probation" under their name in red. |
| 23:45.29 | Noshei | yeah ggg is pretty awesome |
| 23:45.42 | seebs | And you know what? Despite being an ARPG, it's a comparatively friendly community. |
| 23:45.51 | Noshei | but I've gotten a bit bored with poe |
| 23:45.55 | seebs | It's sort of as though making it visible that you care whether users are harassing other users makes a difference. |
| 23:46.19 | seebs | Yeah. It isn't anything I'd stay involved in for very long at a time, but it can be fund to spend an evening running around mindlessly shooting everything that moves. |
| 23:46.28 | seebs | "Is it on the screen, moving, and not me? If so, I should shoot it." |
| 23:46.56 | Noshei | well my main is a summoner, so I just run around and stand there |
| 23:47.07 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 23:47.09 | Noshei | my minions do all the work |
| 23:47.25 | seebs | I had a summoner, got really frustrated with it at one point. Was thinking of trying again with a better understanding of how summoners work. |
| 23:47.38 | seebs | Main realization was, arcane aegis plus a shield with a regen modifier on it is AMAZING. |
| 23:47.56 | Noshei | it sucks through act 1 on normal, huge pain in the ass |
| 23:48.10 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 23:48.13 | Noshei | but it gets better after that |
| 23:48.31 | Noshei | though act 3 is really painful every time |
| 23:48.44 | seebs | I just got to Act 3 for the first time ever on a ranger, whose skill tree just got reset. |
| 23:48.54 | Noshei | lol |
| 23:49.41 | Noshei | my summoner is 60 somehting I think |
| 23:50.07 | seebs | I think my ranger just made 30. |
| 23:50.32 | Noshei | let me know if you ever want to group up, I think I have a character in the 30's |
| 23:51.15 | seebs | Might do. I am not much for grouping normally in games. Also, PoE has an Issue, which is that there's at least a few places where you can end up attackable by other players, and you can't just set the game so that can't happen. And that is an antifun flag for me, even if I know the people I'm playing with are unlikely to do that. |
| 23:51.39 | seebs | Mostly, though, I tend to play MMOs as basically a solo RPG with a built-in chat room full of other people playing the same game. |
| 23:52.23 | Noshei | fair enough |
| 23:53.52 | Noshei | as for tsw and ddo, haven't tried ddo, but I've looked at it and didn't seem like somehting I would like. I did play TSW a bit and really didn't like it. |
| 23:54.10 | Noshei | I've been playing firefall a lot lately, but don't feel like playing it right now. |
| 23:59.18 | LeadGuitar | I've only been playing rift as an api for lua, and dimension building for several months |