| 07:11.00 | *** join/#riftuidev purl (~purl@rikers.org) |
| 07:11.01 | *** topic/#riftuidev is http://pastebin.com for code snippets || PIL: http://www.lua.org/pil || Rift AddOn Policy: http://t.co/7xXd4LL || AddOn Wiki: wiki.riftui.com/ || RiftUI.com || rift.curse.com || this channel is logged, via purl || Rift goes F2P, June 12th, http://www.riftgame.com/free |
| 08:45.33 | *** join/#riftuidev Alystin (~Alystin@ip-5-146-170-242.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 08:45.40 | Alystin | hi all |
| 09:05.15 | Ivnedar | I keep forgetting that the drinking hailol foothold disables all abilities til you relog |
| 09:07.18 | Alystin | hm. I'd love to use the repository functions on curse, but i haven't worked with repos yet :/ |
| 09:07.40 | Alystin | anyone has an idea where to look for some basic rundown as of how that stuff works? |
| 09:08.21 | Ivnedar | I installed tortoiseSVN and went from there |
| 09:08.28 | Ivnedar | they have some guides on it, as do curse |
| 09:09.20 | Alystin | Thank you :) |
| 09:27.35 | *** join/#riftuidev Alystin (~Alystin@ip-5-146-170-242.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 09:30.24 | Alystin | hm. if i try to commit, curseforge tells me "username not found"? |
| 09:33.50 | Ivnedar | you're able to log in and pull down a copy ok? |
| 09:33.57 | Alystin | yep |
| 09:34.05 | Ivnedar | you made a repository account? |
| 09:34.09 | Alystin | i bet it's because i used the public repo |
| 09:34.10 | Ivnedar | it's not the same as your curse one |
| 09:34.34 | Alystin | uh... okay? |
| 09:35.35 | Alystin | i clicked repo management->Assign member roles, and there is my username under author/manager |
| 09:35.51 | Ivnedar | http://www.curseforge.com/wiki/repositories/repository-faq/ |
| 09:36.08 | Alystin | uch, thanks |
| 09:36.22 | Ivnedar | you make a rep account, that's tied to your curse account |
| 09:36.39 | Ivnedar | so when you assign a role to someone, they log into the repo with their repo account |
| 09:36.48 | Alystin | ah i see |
| 11:51.12 | *** join/#riftuidev Wildtide (0fe3b94c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.15.227.185.76) |
| 11:58.25 | Wildtide | Alystin, I'm just adding your link to the addon list. Is there a 1-line description you want me to use? |
| 11:58.56 | Wildtide | "Allows you to send bags full of artifacts to another toon" ? |
| 12:00.51 | Wildtide | i've put that for now. let me know if you want something else. i'm keeping them all to a single sentence that doesn't span multiple lines on the forum, so short and snappy is the way to go :) |
| 14:21.14 | Thorarin | Would be nice if there was an API for addons to check if a toon can use an artifact or not :S |
| 14:21.31 | Thorarin | The Indy thing is just too much work :P |
| 14:26.26 | Alystin | heh lol. I'm online and i'm not reading the idc xD |
| 14:26.29 | Alystin | *IRC |
| 14:26.36 | Alystin | Thanks, Wildtide :) |
| 14:26.49 | Alystin | and the description is great |
| 14:27.57 | Alystin | well, it would suffice if we could get the "usable" flag from the auction house for artifacts |
| 14:28.12 | Alystin | smiles at ZorbaBeta |
| 14:28.26 | Ivnedar | .usable = true/false would be nice! :) |
| 14:28.36 | Alystin | yup^^1 |
| 14:29.05 | Alystin | There can't be too much querying going on in the background, since it's fairly quick in the ah |
| 14:29.45 | Alystin | i tried to use the localization thingy from curse btw, but all the svn stuff broke my mind this mornign^^ |
| 14:32.59 | Wildtide | i use that in Gadgets, it words pretty well once you get it sorted |
| 14:33.31 | Alystin | yeah thought so... But it looks pretty complicated |
| 14:34.02 | Wildtide | mine is about a year out of date, haven't done any translations in ages, so half of the addon gets translated and half doesn't |
| 14:34.09 | Alystin | lol |
| 14:34.33 | Wildtide | unfortunately, i can't point you towards the source code, cos the download will be the translated version, and not what i have |
| 14:34.52 | Alystin | yeah i know^^ |
| 14:35.17 | Alystin | i started by looking through the addons i've installed, but some do it this way, others that way... |
| 14:35.52 | Alystin | i got the "one file for each language"-part |
| 14:36.05 | Alystin | but what i didn't get was how to call the translation from the main file |
| 14:37.26 | Wildtide | hang on, i've grabbed the source from my repo, lemme see what i do |
| 14:39.00 | Wildtide | right, my localisation files look like this: |
| 14:39.19 | Wildtide | Library.Translate.De( |
| 14:39.20 | Wildtide | --@localization(locale="deDE", format="lua_table", handle-unlocalized="ignore")@ |
| 14:39.22 | Wildtide | ) |
| 14:39.30 | Wildtide | ... |
| 14:39.39 | Wildtide | that gets populated with a table by the Curse packager |
| 14:39.56 | Alystin | yeah... |
| 14:40.45 | Wildtide | function translate.De(tbl) |
| 14:40.48 | Wildtide | if not tbl then return end |
| 14:40.52 | Wildtide | for id, text in pairs(tbl) do |
| 14:40.55 | Wildtide | translate.Set("de", id, text) |
| 14:40.59 | Wildtide | end |
| 14:41.02 | Wildtide | end |
| 14:41.05 | Wildtide | ... |
| 14:41.28 | Wildtide | so you apparently just get a table which is a list of keys and the text... |
| 14:42.17 | Wildtide | you could just steal wtLibCore/wtTranslate.lua from Gadgets. seems to work fine |
| 14:42.28 | Alystin | xD |
| 14:43.10 | Alystin | i wanted to try a nolib-approach first... less file juggling and dependency stuff |
| 14:43.19 | Alystin | also less work when updatin |
| 14:43.29 | Wildtide | i don't have it as a separate lib, you would need to steal the code and just include it in yours |
| 14:43.35 | Alystin | aah okay |
| 14:43.52 | Wildtide | maybe don't use Library.Translate though, or we'll clash |
| 14:44.09 | Alystin | nah i'd use another namespace, i think |
| 14:44.18 | Wildtide | i tend to have something like... |
| 14:44.20 | Wildtide | local TXT = Library.Translate |
| 14:44.22 | Alystin | i could just stick to my good old hmd^^ |
| 14:44.27 | Wildtide | print(TXT.Hello) |
| 14:45.01 | Wildtide | and the lib handles picking the correct locale, and defaults to english if the text doesn't exist |
| 14:45.26 | Alystin | sounds good |
| 14:49.22 | Wildtide | the only downside to the whole thing i've found is keeping RiftUI up to date. you have to tag in Curse, let the packager run, then download the addon ZIP and upload to RiftUI. you can't directly upload to RiftUI |
| 14:49.37 | Alystin | figues |
| 14:50.02 | Alystin | on the other hand, it's easier to let ppl help with translations this way |
| 14:50.17 | Alystin | dunno if i'll need that tho... there isn't much to be translated |
| 14:50.41 | Wildtide | yep, i think Imhothar did the entire German translation for Gadgets, without even using the addon, which i thought was pretty cool :) |
| 14:51.09 | Alystin | yeah :) Great addons deserve to be translated :P |
| 14:53.55 | Wildtide | lol, dunno about that |
| 14:54.32 | Alystin | i think so. Because it makes them available to abigger audience |
| 14:57.09 | Wildtide | oh, that's totally true. it was the implication that Gadgets deserved to be translated that i wasn't so sure about ;) |
| 14:57.35 | Alystin | anyway, if an addon is used by many ppl, it tends to get translated one way or another^^ |
| 14:57.40 | Alystin | ^^ |
| 14:58.03 | Wildtide | yep, it does. i think yours will get a lot of use. i'm not an arti collector myself, but it sounds pretty damned useful |
| 14:58.25 | Wildtide | i end up with bags full of duplicates without even trying |
| 14:58.29 | Wildtide | so i'll be using it |
| 15:01.32 | Wildtide | agh, noooo! looks like Adelea has released his Docker addon with strict mode enabled :( |
| 15:01.41 | Thorarin | zomg |
| 15:02.03 | Thorarin | Zorba predicted that would happen, more or less ;) |
| 15:03.34 | Wildtide | yup :) |
| 15:04.03 | Wildtide | i have a little addon called "EnableStrictMode", with before dependencies on my stuff, that turns it on |
| 15:04.13 | Wildtide | i didn't wanna be the guy that released the killer addon :D |
| 15:07.11 | Alystin | what exactly does strict mode do? |
| 15:07.41 | Wildtide | agh, it's worse than i thought. it's KBM doing it |
| 15:07.52 | Wildtide | it makes any deprecated functions throw errors |
| 15:07.58 | Alystin | ewww |
| 15:08.06 | Wildtide | that currently means the entire old event system |
| 15:08.30 | Alystin | useful for debugging and translating the old stuff into the new one, but... waah^^ |
| 15:13.06 | Wildtide | yep, it is really handy. i need it for updating all of my stuff |
| 15:13.21 | Wildtide | we're just not supposed to actually release addons with it turned on :) |
| 15:13.38 | Alystin | i can see why^^ |
| 15:37.58 | Thorarin | KBM? Is there a new version? |
| 15:39.10 | Thorarin | I haven't noticed problems with 1.4.5 at all, but I haven't tried the Alpha |
| 15:45.12 | Wildtide | no idea, i don't use it myself. was just posted by Sophee on the forum |
| 15:47.38 | Wildtide | hmmm, weirdly, no there isn't a new version |
| 15:48.38 | Wildtide | ah, there's a new alpha |
| 15:52.50 | *** join/#riftuidev seebs (~seebs@home.seebs.net) |
| 15:52.50 | *** mode/#riftuidev [+o seebs] by ChanServ |
| 16:03.25 | seebs | Oooh, "* The faction requirement on applying runes has been removed! In its place is a new system: runes that are Bound to Account can now only be applied to items that are Soulbound or Bound to Account." |
| 16:04.07 | Alystin | uh |
| 16:04.23 | Alystin | so no more crafting capes with the big runes for guildies^ |
| 16:04.38 | seebs | Depends on the rune, but yes, that is I believe the intent. |
| 16:05.00 | Alystin | so everyone has to farm his own renown. Like it^^ |
| 16:15.01 | Thorarin | No runing capes for alts either... |
| 16:15.22 | Thorarin | That's kinda lame ;( |
| 16:15.24 | Alystin | that, too. |
| 16:15.35 | Alystin | oh wait |
| 16:15.44 | Alystin | that's before the patch |
| 16:15.51 | Thorarin | For all this time it was part of their strategy to allow it.. |
| 16:15.53 | Alystin | " runes that are Bound to Account can now only be applied to items that are Soulbound or Bound to Account." |
| 16:16.25 | Thorarin | Yeah but the cape is BoE until it becomes BoP |
| 16:16.37 | Alystin | if your alts are on the same acc? |
| 16:16.40 | Thorarin | Unless applying the rune MAKES it BoA |
| 16:16.48 | Thorarin | Doesn't matter |
| 16:16.50 | Alystin | ah right |
| 16:16.58 | Thorarin | Even on the same account, it wouldn't work |
| 16:17.11 | Alystin | yeah right because the *item* is boe |
| 16:17.13 | Alystin | -.- |
| 16:17.15 | seebs | But they also nuked the faction requirement. |
| 16:17.23 | seebs | So you can send the rune to the alt and they can rune their own cape. |
| 16:17.41 | Thorarin | True |
| 16:17.44 | Alystin | ah okay |
| 16:18.12 | Thorarin | But that also has a level 60 requirement even on the lower runes |
| 16:18.19 | Alystin | so i still need to have the appropriate rank to *buy* it, but then i can send it to all my chars on the same acc and they can use it? |
| 16:18.32 | Thorarin | And even though the runes can be applied to much lower item levels -.- |
| 16:18.40 | seebs | Right. As long as they meet the level requirements, which is almost certainly intentional. |
| 16:18.51 | Alystin | that's fine |
| 16:18.59 | Alystin | they're endgame runes after all |
| 16:19.06 | Thorarin | The level requirement shouldn't be significantly higher than the item level requirement imo |
| 16:19.33 | Alystin | well, if you insist on wearing your lvl 51 cape^^ |
| 16:20.58 | seebs | It's sort of a weird thing, if the level requirement is higher than the item level requirement, you can apply the rune on an item you haven't upgraded recently, but you can end up with a thing where you can put the runes on BoE items for alts but not soulbound items. |
| 16:22.26 | Alystin | huh? |
| 16:22.56 | seebs | May have gotten garbled. |
| 16:23.26 | seebs | If the item level requirement is lower than the use-rune level requirement, it's convenient for using runes on items you have had for a while, but it creates inconsistencies. |
| 16:23.40 | seebs | I mostly dislike item level requirements because you can't see item level on quest reward items. |
| 16:23.52 | Alystin | yup that bugs me too |
| 16:56.32 | *** join/#riftuidev seebs (~seebs@home.seebs.net) |
| 16:56.32 | *** mode/#riftuidev [+o seebs] by ChanServ |
| 19:05.07 | *** join/#riftuidev Imhothar (miranda@ppp-188-174-97-8.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 19:35.11 | *** join/#riftuidev Wildtide (~quassel@host86-184-240-68.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:54.30 | *** join/#riftuidev Noshei (~quassel@c-24-9-171-99.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 21:57.05 | *** join/#riftuidev Noshei (~quassel@c-24-9-171-99.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |