| 01:31.17 | Imhothar | a guy sent me localizations for chinese and taiwanese. those glyphs really need big font sizes |
| 01:39.52 | Imhothar | Hmm my ticket for Taiwanese back in October didn't get much attention it seems |
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| 09:34.45 | Noshei | morning wildtide |
| 09:41.39 | Wildtide | morning :) |
| 09:41.47 | Ivnedar | morning :) |
| 09:42.00 | Ivnedar | You have ... 0 new messages. |
| 10:32.48 | Wildtide | lol |
| 10:33.41 | Ivnedar | A bit sad that we're making more progress on Regulos with 17-19 people than 20 |
| 13:51.42 | Thorarin | lol, Seebs also mentioned cargo cult programming now :) |
| 13:56.45 | Thorarin | Not understanding English very well doesn't really help either I guess |
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| 15:10.23 | Imhothar | just as the cargo cults |
| 15:23.34 | Noshei | hmm, rift seems to be dead atm |
| 15:23.54 | Noshei | anyone else unable to login or get to the website? |
| 15:24.01 | Ivnedar | all down at the moment |
| 15:24.02 | Ivnedar | for me |
| 15:27.55 | Thorarin | Forum seemed to be down |
| 15:28.05 | Thorarin | Inside the game which works fine for me |
| 15:28.08 | Ivnedar | guess network issue their side |
| 15:28.19 | Ivnedar | game's up for you? |
| 15:28.25 | Thorarin | Yeah |
| 15:28.47 | Thorarin | I play in EU though |
| 15:28.53 | Ivnedar | ah |
| 15:30.31 | Thorarin | At least the game servers are in a data center in Amsterdam |
| 15:30.48 | Thorarin | The authentication infrastructure is shared afaik |
| 15:32.46 | Noshei | the entire infrastructure is supposed to be sharred, or at least it was when they first built it |
| 15:33.08 | Thorarin | Too much latency to have the game servers in US tho |
| 15:35.14 | Thorarin | Latency is a bit higher than usual today, but even then it's much lower than any US server |
| 15:36.27 | Thorarin | For some silly reason they route traffic over Germany *shrug* |
| 15:37.01 | Thorarin | Seems a bit odd when you're about 25km from the actual servers |
| 15:37.33 | Imhothar | it's all about bandwidth |
| 15:38.28 | Thorarin | Myeah, but still, seeing traffic routed to Amsterdam, to Dusseldorf and then back to Amsterdam looks odd :) |
| 15:38.54 | Imhothar | the WoW login servers for EU are all in Paris, but the actual game servers are spread all over the countries, so you naturally have communication with Paris + the local datacenters |
| 15:39.38 | Imhothar | and there are lots of big datacenters in Düsseldorf, I'm not sure what's so special about that city |
| 15:39.43 | Imhothar | even the WoW gameservers are there |
| 15:39.53 | Imhothar | the German ones |
| 15:40.11 | Imhothar | one would expect Frankfurt but.. who knows |
| 15:40.15 | Thorarin | It's one of the largest internet exchanges afaik |
| 15:40.22 | Thorarin | Oh no, Frankfurt was |
| 15:42.00 | Imhothar | Just do it the Lufthansa way, they got direct cable connections from every single airport in Europe to Frankfurt |
| 15:42.41 | Imhothar | where all their servers are standing. that's HUGE bandwidth they have, and it's on their own proprietary cables |
| 15:42.51 | Thorarin | 0.o |
| 15:43.26 | Imhothar | yup, it's pretty amazing |
| 15:43.56 | Imhothar | their datacenter bandwidth are almost unimaginable |
| 15:45.15 | Thorarin | Seems... silly, tbh :P |
| 15:45.32 | Imhothar | it's about security and maintainability |
| 15:46.13 | Imhothar | all their servers are at one location, makes them easier to maintain, and by having a proprietary cable network they are independent and reliable |
| 15:46.17 | Thorarin | Security? The cable is unguarded I assume :) |
| 15:46.22 | Ivnedar | well, outage let me finish VVVVVV finally |
| 15:47.19 | Thorarin | And the cable can break just like any other cable, so I imagine they rely on 3rd parties for backup infrastructure |
| 15:48.00 | Imhothar | it's not about the cable breaking, it's about a reliable, deterministic connection that is not shared with random other users |
| 15:48.34 | Thorarin | Yeah, like I said... silly |
| 15:48.43 | Thorarin | There are other ways of achieving that :) |
| 15:48.48 | Imhothar | like? |
| 15:49.04 | Thorarin | Bandwidth can be guaranteed |
| 15:50.06 | Imhothar | hmm just thinking those connections might be probably a little older than the internet infrastructure |
| 15:50.49 | Imhothar | well I'm sure they have their reasons. airlines calculate everything to the last cent |
| 15:54.23 | Ivnedar | hrrm, only 3 of trion's routes seem to be advertised at the moment |
| 15:54.49 | Thorarin | I have no idea how many they have normally.. |
| 15:55.00 | Ivnedar | 7 listed in history |
| 15:55.48 | Ivnedar | ah well, guess it's a network issue, provider maybe |
| 15:55.51 | Ivnedar | bed for me that means! |
| 15:56.04 | Thorarin | nn |
| 15:56.09 | Ivnedar | nite :) |
| 16:17.52 | Thorarin | Forums seem back up |
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| 20:25.55 | Imhothar | May the Schwartz be with you! |
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| 22:31.58 | Thorarin | Hmm, found a carnage not in Carnage Book |
| 22:48.23 | Ivnedar | which one? |
| 22:48.50 | Ivnedar | I stopped updating the data file. Assumed there wouldn't be any new ones til Dendrome opens |
| 22:49.06 | Thorarin | Seems it was added in 1.5 and I was just too lazy to update :) |
| 22:49.36 | Ivnedar | ahh, the steppes one? |
| 22:49.44 | Thorarin | Seratos |
| 22:49.49 | Ivnedar | hrrm, interesting |
| 22:49.53 | Ivnedar | don't remember that one :) |
| 22:50.08 | Thorarin | *shrug* |