| 00:56.14 | odine | noshei im gonna go with the scrolling textas my next project |
| 00:56.25 | odine | but prolly wont start on it till late nxt week ;) |
| 00:56.28 | Noshei | cool |
| 00:56.48 | odine | wanna get biscal at v1.0 release... out of beta etc first |
| 00:57.07 | odine | that was a great idea man thanks |
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| 08:50.51 | Ivnedar | hrrm, wonder if the rift servers will roll forward with daylight savings live, or wait til next reboot |
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| 10:10.32 | Ivnedar | guessing they didn't cope too well :D |
| 10:39.53 | Baanano | damn dst, now dawn here is at 8.30 am |
| 10:40.11 | ZorbaBeta | dst is all, "hey, you know that hour of sleep you thought you had" |
| 10:40.12 | ZorbaBeta | "lol" |
| 10:40.14 | ZorbaBeta | "sucker" |
| 10:40.40 | Ivnedar | shakes fist @ dst |
| 10:40.46 | Ivnedar | looks like servers have settled down now at least :) |
| 10:41.16 | Ivnedar | hang on, you're up late! |
| 10:41.25 | Baanano | as if it weren't hard to wake up in the morning without dst... |
| 10:41.28 | Ivnedar | or early, not sure which |
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| 13:01.27 | Ivnedar | wtb: ability for addon to play sound |
| 13:01.53 | Ivnedar | to compensate for guild of people who are extremely tunnel visioned :P |
| 13:04.03 | Ivnedar | even if they're built in sounds only |
| 13:11.15 | ZorbaBeta | I tried that early on. Turned out it's *extraordinarily* difficult. Gonna try it again later, but it'll be a royal pain. |
| 13:19.41 | Ivnedar | I think many people would prefer they never get allowed :D |
| 13:20.24 | Ivnedar | We've worked around it by having a text to speech client connected to our voice server that's parsing combat and noncombat logs :D |
| 13:20.30 | Ivnedar | and triggering on regexes |
| 13:22.21 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, that's why I don't mind allowing it |
| 13:22.31 | ZorbaBeta | there will be ways to duplicate it through annoying third-party solutions no matter what |
| 13:22.50 | Ivnedar | s/annoying/awesome/ |
| 13:28.45 | Baanano | distributing and having users set up those third party apps correctly could be a bit difficult |
| 13:29.02 | Baanano | on the other hand, most addons are perfectly fine without sound |
| 13:31.11 | Ivnedar | I was picturing a "Virtual Raid Leader" addon, triggers on various events and shouts at you |
| 13:31.14 | Baanano | maybe a command with a small set of predeterminate sounds could be easier to implement and provide enough functionality for most cases, something like Command.Sound.Play("alarmbell") |
| 13:32.00 | Ivnedar | (ps. I think a virtual raid leader would be a terrible idea, so no one implement it) |
| 13:40.29 | Ivnedar | ZorbaBeta: looks like old world bosses have .abilitynew on their casts |
| 13:43.14 | Ivnedar | hrrm, I don't suppose there's anything we can set to make the client return text strings in a different language without logging out and changing the client language |
| 13:43.35 | Ivnedar | expecting not |
| 13:44.16 | Ivnedar | But if .abilityNew existed on each ability, then I could sort out translations without guessing! |
| 13:45.07 | Ivnedar | can use Inspect.Ability.New.Detail(abilityNew) after the fact in different language clients to pick them up |
| 13:45.54 | ZorbaBeta | not, sorry - it'd take a pretty serious redesign of the translation layer to support that |
| 13:46.07 | Ivnedar | didn't think there would be :) |
| 13:46.23 | Ivnedar | was thinking some way of setting LANG= before a call or something I didn't know about |
| 13:46.49 | Ivnedar | not needed though if it doesn't exist |
| 13:47.01 | Ivnedar | easy enough to change relog in a different language |
| 13:54.08 | Ivnedar | ok, where the mob uses a player ability, it looks like .abilityNew is set |
| 13:54.35 | Ivnedar | a limited few other abilities have it set too, but in general it's not set for non-player npc abilities |
| 13:55.15 | Ivnedar | Prince Hylas in GSB for example has it set on Spirit Fracture |
| 13:55.32 | Ivnedar | but none of the other bosses have it set for theirs |
| 13:55.33 | Ivnedar | weird |
| 15:07.47 | Ivnedar | btw, it's possible for 2 warriors to kill Herald Gaurath :D |
| 15:07.53 | Ivnedar | so much fun :) |
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| 17:22.24 | Wildtide | hey ZorbaBeta... putting that little docs site together has highlighted to me just how insanely big the RIFT API is, especially as it's basically a solo effort. almost makes me feel guilty about asking for more stuff ;) |
| 17:22.54 | Wildtide | not guilty enough that i'll stop, but you know... i may feel the odd twinge... |
| 17:23.10 | ZorbaBeta | yeah it's gotten pretty dang huge :V don't worry about asking as long as you're okay with "not right now" being the answer, it's how I learn what people are missing |
| 17:24.35 | Wildtide | dunno if you've seen my last post about missing unit events? i'm helping someone (Dysturbed) get his unit frames finished, and he's struggling with getting CQ icons to display |
| 17:24.58 | Wildtide | turns out the unit details do contain the info, but no events fire so Gadgets doesn't know they've changed |
| 17:32.19 | ZorbaBeta | haven't seen it yet - which events are causing problems? |
| 17:32.54 | Wildtide | just .alliance and .factionId |
| 17:33.06 | ZorbaBeta | hmm, are there even events for those? |
| 17:33.15 | Wildtide | no... that was kinda the point ;) |
| 17:34.08 | Wildtide | but anyway, it's a Sunday, you're not working now :) |
| 17:34.43 | Wildtide | i read your comments on Warp. never heard of it, but it looks fun. is it worth playing? |
| 17:34.59 | Wildtide | i loved Portal, and it sounds similar-ish |
| 17:35.00 | ZorbaBeta | ah, so it's not really "no events fire" and more like "no events exist" :V |
| 17:35.09 | ZorbaBeta | that could be dealt with, in theory |
| 17:35.15 | Wildtide | yes, sorry... prolly wasn't clear :) |
| 17:35.24 | ZorbaBeta | it's fun, it's not great. if you're in desperate need of an action puzzle game, pick it up, but . . . there's better games out there, honestly |
| 17:35.40 | Wildtide | oh, ok. i'll go with Portal 2 then |
| 17:37.27 | ZorbaBeta | portal 2 is massively better, if you haven't played it you must |
| 17:37.44 | Wildtide | ok, that settles it :) |
| 17:37.46 | Wildtide | though... Heart of the Swarm tomorrow... |
| 17:38.02 | Wildtide | as Blizzard insist on telling me every 10 minutes in my inbox |
| 17:38.45 | Wildtide | or Tuesday... whenever it was |
| 17:38.59 | ZorbaBeta | probably tuesday, it's usually tuesday |
| 17:39.19 | Wildtide | i think it is, yep. i think the live stream event starts 10:00pm Monday evening UK time |
| 17:42.08 | Wildtide | anyway... better go walk the dog while dinner's cooking. laters :) |
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| 18:56.56 | odine | ZorbaBeta just wanted to thank u/congradulate u on the rendering improvements.... great friggin job man least for nice improvements across the board |
| 18:57.19 | ZorbaBeta | thanks ^^ still a bunch of work to be done, of course, but it's coming along nicely :) |
| 18:57.33 | odine | it really shows for the volan event |
| 18:58.30 | ZorbaBeta | I'm actually curious what's going on there, because there's nothing I did that I expected to affect Volan. but I've heard from a bunch of people that something got improved, and nobody else is working on improving existing performance |
| 18:58.43 | ZorbaBeta | so I'm guessing I fixed something unintended :V |
| 18:58.58 | odine | hmm i dunno, but last two times he spawend frame rate way better and no more ability error stuff |
| 18:59.29 | ZorbaBeta | it's entirely possible it's linked to ability issues, I did a whole ton of improvements in the ability system |
| 18:59.45 | odine | ya that could ne |
| 18:59.46 | odine | *be |
| 19:01.18 | odine | lulz but this perticular spawn is bugged haha |
| 19:01.25 | odine | he broke the wall down and we cant get through lmao |
| 19:01.48 | ZorbaBeta | if you're on a different shard than your home shard, that's currently expected - you can't get through unless *your* shard has the wall knocked down |
| 19:01.57 | ZorbaBeta | otherwise it might just be a bug :V |
| 19:02.02 | odine | ahhh |
| 19:02.29 | odine | is there a way to tell if im on a different shard? |
| 19:02.40 | ZorbaBeta | I believe /shard will tell you what shard you're on |
| 19:02.52 | odine | ya im def on dif shard |
| 19:03.16 | odine | oh well least ill get most of the marks ;) |
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| 19:06.58 | odine | ZorbaBeta any teases or hints at whats coming next API wise? ;) trying to figure out my next addon project...... |
| 19:55.19 | ZorbaBeta | I pretty much never give out advance info, sorry ;) |
| 19:55.40 | ZorbaBeta | the next things on my list are really awesome highly-requested things that will make people super-happy, and I'm like 90% sure I can get them done. That "90%" is why I am not going to mention them :P |
| 19:57.59 | odine | i know... u tell me that everytime, but hey cant blame a guy for tryin right ;) |
| 20:01.45 | odine | besides what u just said kinda gives me a good idea of what to expect =P |
| 20:02.31 | odine | guess imma start working on a scrolling combat text addon for now then ;) |
| 20:09.12 | odine | 2.5 old event system will be disabled right? |
| 20:09.43 | odine | nvm found the thread |
| 20:22.55 | ZorbaBeta | it's not "will be" so much as "may be" - I'm fully planning for it to be disabled in 2.5, but if things come up, that might be delayed. |
| 20:23.10 | odine | right, i hear ya |
| 20:23.28 | ZorbaBeta | however I am guaranteeing that you have until 2.5 :) |
| 20:24.13 | odine | and im guarenteeing that u have till 2.5 to add class member to guild roster detail hehehehe j/k j/k |
| 20:24.45 | ZorbaBeta | that one's not even on the main list, it's buried in the when-I-have-time segments :V kinda try to squeeze that stuff in when possible |
| 20:25.01 | odine | im just ball busting |
| 20:25.10 | ZorbaBeta | no worries :) I'm good at saying "NOPE NOT YET" |
| 20:25.13 | odine | bit bored atm fishing :( |
| 20:25.39 | odine | between raiding and the addon thing i was down to like 2 plat |
| 20:25.52 | odine | so i figured i best get off my ass and start farming |
| 20:26.09 | Wildtide|afk | <ZorbaBeta> "no worries :) I'm good at saying "NOPE NOT YET"" ... damn right he is ;) |
| 20:26.19 | odine | lulz |
| 20:26.39 | Wildtide|afk | never once managed to squeeze any nuggets of info out of him... and we've tried hard :D |
| 20:26.51 | odine | oh i try all the time too |
| 20:27.01 | odine | like i said above... never hurts to try ;) |
| 20:28.47 | odine | someone pick me a class other than mage gogo |
| 20:29.36 | odine | kinda stuck between either warrior or rogue |
| 20:32.57 | Wildtide | cleric |
| 22:08.18 | Imhothar | finally, Windows 8 available for download. Now all I need is a primary SSD |
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| 22:59.50 | odine | who knows apache2 well... made no recent changes and suddenly it wont run.. i get the errror icecpp: error: cannot open `/usr/share/slice/Murmur.ice' for reading |
| 23:00.46 | Imhothar | did you check the obvious? |
| 23:01.15 | odine | yup |
| 23:01.18 | Ivnedar | have you uninstalled mumble server? |
| 23:01.37 | odine | dont even have it installed nor have i ever. i use teamspeak thats the funny thing lol |
| 23:02.24 | odine | meh w/e |
| 23:02.31 | odine | i just installed mumble via apt and its working now |
| 23:02.44 | odine | dont feel like bothering troubleshooting further, but weird eh? |
| 23:03.20 | Ivnedar | sounds like mumble's been installed sometime in the past, then removed, apache2's kept running happily until the next restart at which point it couldn't find the mumble file |
| 23:03.20 | odine | maybe my VPS provider did some upgrades or something i dunno |
| 23:04.07 | odine | ya my idiot friend has access hes prolly the cause |
| 23:04.37 | odine | oh well afk dinner time |
| 23:05.18 | Ivnedar | looks like uninstalling mumble leaves the php config behind |
| 23:05.48 | Ivnedar | configs are left behind by default aren't they with apt? |
| 23:05.53 | Ivnedar | some other option to remove the config too |
| 23:07.10 | odine | ya theres an argument.. i usually pull the configs too... he probably uninstalled it without doing so |
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| 23:58.32 | Ivnedar | ZorbaBeta: does a /reloadui notify the server that it's happened |
| 23:58.50 | Ivnedar | so the server knows to reset whatever state's been setup so far in that session |