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| 01:28.30 | odine | Thorarin: for me KeyDown in textfield boxes.. sometimes it works other times backspace makes numbers instead of deleting them lol |
| 02:16.52 | odine | question for anyone that might be in a raiding guild that uses dkp.... how often to dkp systems go into th negatives? |
| 02:17.10 | Ivnedar | regularly at the start of a raiding tier |
| 02:17.16 | odine | fuck me |
| 02:17.18 | Ivnedar | and not so regularly as new members join |
| 02:17.23 | ZorbaBeta | really depends on the DKP system. the last major raiding guild I was in, I ended up at -600 DKP at the end of my first raid :V |
| 02:17.33 | ZorbaBeta | some are set up so that negative is impossible, but many aren't |
| 02:17.39 | Ivnedar | for us, we start out at 50 or 100, depending on how long that member was raiding in the previous tier |
| 02:17.50 | Ivnedar | if you're a new member, you start out at 0 |
| 02:17.54 | odine | man gonna have to rewrite this entire code.... slipped my mind when i was writing it.... doing a dkp plugin for the calendar addon |
| 02:18.09 | Ivnedar | but if the item isn't wanted by anyone with positive dkp, you can still get it for minimum, which puts your balance to negative |
| 02:18.20 | Ivnedar | there can also be dkp penalties for 'derping' |
| 02:18.28 | odine | and it uses libgsm for the compression (zlib and all that) and currently the way i got it it wont go negatives |
| 02:19.00 | odine | and with my skillset im not sure if its possible to have negative numbers with guild storage when compressing it? |
| 02:19.09 | Ivnedar | our minimums are pretty low, so -600 would be near on impossible for us :D |
| 02:19.17 | Ivnedar | depends on the scale/costings for the guild |
| 02:19.24 | ZorbaBeta | ivnedar, I believe our minimum was 50 at that point |
| 02:19.32 | Ivnedar | ours is 20 for most slots |
| 02:19.35 | Ivnedar | 40 for 2h weapons |
| 02:19.36 | ZorbaBeta | and I had literally no raid gear and virtually every boss dropped one or two useful items for me |
| 02:19.43 | Ivnedar | used to be higher, but meh |
| 02:19.44 | ZorbaBeta | and the entire rest of the guild was basically fully geared :V |
| 02:19.46 | Ivnedar | heh heh, nice! |
| 02:19.52 | Ivnedar | we have a rogue who had that happen |
| 02:20.05 | odine | been mia i gotta catch up.. friggin wrist injury set me back big time |
| 02:20.05 | ZorbaBeta | odine, it's always *possible*. how you accomplish it is another matter |
| 02:20.05 | Ivnedar | they've been raiding with us for a month now, fully kitted out with near on bis stuff |
| 02:20.18 | Ivnedar | since we only really have 1 consistently showing up rogue |
| 02:20.26 | odine | ya im trying to figure out how to go about it to allow negatives.... |
| 02:21.06 | Ivnedar | you could always store it as two positive values |
| 02:21.12 | Ivnedar | "dkp accrued" and "dkp spent" |
| 02:21.25 | Ivnedar | then the positive/negative bit is done on the client, not stored |
| 02:21.43 | odine | hmm thanks... not a bad idea at all :) |
| 02:22.01 | Ivnedar | penalties should be added to the spent total |
| 02:22.10 | Ivnedar | bonuses added to the earned/accrued total |
| 02:22.23 | Ivnedar | that's how ours is calculated anyway |
| 02:22.36 | odine | rigjt |
| 02:22.38 | odine | *right |
| 02:23.11 | odine | well thanks for the help... least gave me some direction and ideas :) |
| 02:23.11 | Ivnedar | I think our penalties aren't dkp anymore actually |
| 02:23.15 | Ivnedar | used to be :) |
| 02:23.24 | Ivnedar | now they're either 100p for really bad stuff |
| 02:23.27 | odine | so far behind from being mia 2 weeks :( |
| 02:23.44 | Ivnedar | or 30p for first offense, 10p for each repeat during that lockout |
| 02:24.14 | Ivnedar | fines can be paid off in crafting mats, singing on mumble, apology videos posted publicly, etc |
| 02:24.17 | Ivnedar | :P |
| 02:24.55 | odine | also i was considering adding like an "auto bid" type manager like u may have seen in wow if u played it... long story short.. boss dies window pops up for all to bid provided they have the addon... but not sure its possible with api |
| 02:24.57 | ZorbaBeta | we never did fines, but if we had, we just would've ended up without any players :/ |
| 02:25.18 | ZorbaBeta | odine, it's definitely possible if you're willing for the raid leader to enter in the items being bidded on |
| 02:26.04 | Ivnedar | that was what would have happened to us in SL |
| 02:26.07 | Ivnedar | in HK it worked |
| 02:26.14 | Ivnedar | every time you got hit by a wave, you got fined 100p |
| 02:26.28 | Ivnedar | I had a laggy night that cost me 400p :( |
| 02:26.29 | odine | right that would semi defite the sim0plicity idea behind it.... thought about using inspect.tooltip... would require mousing over the drops and fire off an event that starts the bid manager? |
| 02:26.51 | Ivnedar | there's no loot api is there? |
| 02:26.55 | odine | no |
| 02:27.32 | odine | but i did some messingarround with inspect.tooltip and i think i might be able to do something like that |
| 02:27.33 | ZorbaBeta | I think inspect.tooltip is currently broken for equipment, unfortunately - a side effect of how our comparison tooltips work |
| 02:27.38 | ZorbaBeta | if it works, though, rock on |
| 02:27.44 | Ivnedar | *nod* |
| 02:27.54 | Ivnedar | can you work out if the tooltip is on an item in a loot window? |
| 02:27.56 | odine | well right now inspect.tooltip spits out like the original item, and if its upgradeable it spits that ut too |
| 02:28.01 | odine | other than that it works |
| 02:28.15 | Ivnedar | eg. does it return an item slot |
| 02:28.28 | Ivnedar | hrrm, though that could fire if inspecting |
| 02:28.52 | Ivnedar | it'd be nice if loot messages were raid wide, then we could at least keep a log of it |
| 02:29.19 | odine | speaking of loot api/tables.. zorba u know if there any plans to implement someything like that? |
| 02:29.49 | ZorbaBeta | I'm pretty sure it's on the list somewhere :V but as always, the list is long |
| 02:29.56 | odine | indeed it is |
| 02:30.03 | Ivnedar | Want some free labour to work through the list? ;) |
| 02:30.31 | odine | well if a bid manager doesnt work.... i canalways at least get the item UIDS t hoguh inspect.tooltip so when making dkp changes u can put the item said person received... |
| 02:30.35 | ZorbaBeta | I suspect there would be objections to sending out the game client code :V |
| 02:30.43 | ZorbaBeta | anyway, afk for a while :) |
| 02:30.46 | Ivnedar | ok :) |
| 02:31.35 | odine | ne1 knowe how to get in touch with wildtide? hes the guy that maintains gadgets right? |
| 02:31.46 | Ivnedar | If you had a library of loot tables (could build one from the various online lists), you could allow the loot manager to broadcast an item to others with the addon |
| 02:31.58 | Ivnedar | and have them return a bid |
| 02:32.19 | Ivnedar | officer stores dkp totals in the guild storage |
| 02:32.23 | odine | ya i thought about that too, but last i checked there isnt alot of accurate loot table lists out there |
| 02:32.33 | Ivnedar | so raiders have a "you have this much dkp" thing to help with bidding |
| 02:32.40 | odine | ya i already got that coded besides the negative issue |
| 02:33.01 | odine | in fact in a basic form i have a dkp plugin for the clanedar that is basic but completely functional |
| 02:33.03 | Ivnedar | simple-loot.com looked pretty nice last time I looked |
| 02:33.12 | odine | never heard of that place ill check it out |
| 02:33.37 | Ivnedar | it's broken up into instance/boss |
| 02:33.41 | Ivnedar | others just have long lists |
| 02:34.27 | Ivnedar | use the itemid in the zam link to find the item in the discovery file to get the addon itemid |
| 02:35.33 | odine | sweet gonna look into it, thanks |
| 02:37.51 | Ivnedar | I did start on aa python script to convert items database and a scrape of the simple-loot site into a lua structure for it |
| 02:38.02 | Ivnedar | but ran into the question of whether or not I should be scraping someone else's work :P |
| 02:38.54 | odine | =P |
| 02:39.01 | odine | that would be nice |
| 02:43.46 | Ivnedar | I think I managed to delete my carnage book repo last week |
| 02:44.02 | Ivnedar | so I'll need to redo my generation code for when dendrome officially opens |
| 02:44.13 | Ivnedar | I'm sure I had backups somewhere |
| 02:44.15 | odine | its not open? |
| 02:44.24 | odine | swear i saw people going there in my guild lmao |
| 02:44.24 | Ivnedar | not technically |
| 02:44.32 | Ivnedar | there's a hole in the wall that people found |
| 02:44.36 | Ivnedar | zone's empty |
| 02:44.42 | odine | oh |
| 02:44.46 | odine | lol no point then |
| 02:44.55 | Ivnedar | two achievements are possible |
| 02:45.00 | Ivnedar | explore the whole zone, and the jump one |
| 02:45.06 | Ivnedar | which gives you both the meta ones |
| 02:45.23 | Ivnedar | so that's 4 achievements I guess :) |
| 02:46.19 | Ivnedar | It's technically an exploit, so I won't say where the hole is :P |
| 02:47.30 | odine | meh |
| 02:47.32 | odine | ill pass |
| 02:47.34 | odine | and wait |
| 02:47.36 | Ivnedar | same |
| 02:47.40 | odine | no reason to exploit for a couple achievements |
| 02:47.55 | odine | honestly no reason to exploit anything |
| 02:48.08 | odine | least thats my take on it |
| 02:48.09 | Ivnedar | yeah, pointless looking around an unfinished |
| 02:48.46 | Ivnedar | zone |
| 02:52.09 | Ivnedar | lol, people calling it the ms paint zone :D |
| 02:52.21 | Ivnedar | lots of missing textures still, with the ms paint type placeholders |
| 02:55.29 | Noshei | lol, I was just in there |
| 02:55.36 | Ivnedar | naughty! |
| 02:55.42 | Ivnedar | lucky ZorbaBeta is afk :D |
| 02:56.11 | Noshei | Daglar said they dont really care |
| 02:56.27 | Ivnedar | so it's a platypus, not a duck |
| 02:56.28 | Ivnedar | cool |
| 02:59.33 | odine | mspaint textures lmao |
| 03:00.01 | Ivnedar | oooooh |
| 03:00.14 | Ivnedar | ZorbaBeta: suggestion, use daglar's duck image for the new placeholder texture! |
| 04:12.08 | seebs | agh |
| 04:12.40 | seebs | Okay, so. Three or four hours of work on a page which was taking WAY too long to display stuff. |
| 04:12.56 | seebs | Pretty obvious why, it's horrendously badly coded SQL, doing tons of nigh-duplicative queries. |
| 04:13.12 | seebs | Ultimately, I could get the runtime from about 10 seconds to just under 1 second. |
| 04:14.19 | seebs | Of that, roughly 5 seconds came from noticing the "# we should probably index this..." comment and adding some indexes that had never gotten done, and roughly 4 seconds came from finding a 50ms delay after each line of output and removing it. 0.1 or so came from a highly labor-intensive rework of the queries. |
| 04:14.24 | seebs | Guess which of these three steps I took first. |
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| 06:02.46 | Ivnedar | nice, Daglar suggesting that the existing dendrome achievements will be replaced when the zone really opens, and the existing ones will stick around and have a negative value :) |
| 06:15.28 | Ivnedar | and on a groan-worthy response to daglar's post, I'm off home, bbl :) |
| 07:47.16 | Thorarin | heh seebs :) |
| 07:50.12 | Thorarin | Once got called by an ex-colleague "remember that page we had just put live when you left?" "the one you built? yeah" |
| 07:50.12 | Thorarin | "Well, it's being used a lot now, but we have some performance issues..." |
| 07:50.13 | Thorarin | "What kind of performance issues?" |
| 07:50.13 | Thorarin | "Well, it's taking over a minute to load the page now." |
| 07:51.17 | Thorarin | Basically just took some of the performance suggestions of the SQL profiler and implemented them. Query went down from 90 seconds to 0.3 seconds lol |
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| 09:42.35 | Thorarin | Annoying... 49% error rate on an error that only I could have gotten, afaik |
| 09:42.58 | Thorarin | That seems somewhat unlikely... those errors don't often appear in the report at all |
| 09:45.11 | Thorarin | Then again, with such a high percentage, you'd think someone would have complained |
| 09:55.36 | Baanano | I'm getting an increasing percentage of performance warnings on a MouseIn event that just does Command.Tooltip(itemType) since 2 days ago, dunno why, as CTooltip seems to be cheap and the itemtype should be cached because it can only represent items in your bags |
| 10:19.38 | Thorarin | Haven't had any performance warnings myself, but I have a reasonably fast PC |
| 10:20.57 | Thorarin | Trying to solve a small mystery myself atm, not all RiftCheckboxes I create seem to be the same size, even if I set the size exactly the same :S |
| 10:23.08 | Thorarin | Don't see how it could be a rounding thing, since the difference is 2 pixels |
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| 11:08.47 | Thorarin | Meh, this makes no sense whatsoever.. all over 2 silly pixels :P |
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| 13:29.39 | odine_zzz | morning... |
| 14:00.14 | odine | hmmmmm |
| 14:00.18 | odine | been out of the loop |
| 14:00.42 | odine | issues with petbars? every now and then all my abilities disappear from it |
| 14:00.50 | odine | i know its not addon related but just askin |
| 14:01.05 | odine | only way to fix is to resummon pet |
| 14:01.43 | odine | lmao my bags too |
| 14:31.00 | ZorbaBeta | seebs, I actually just fixed an issue with performance when opening the crafting dialog. the big hint I'd found the right spot was when I traced the slowdown to a function prefixed with // TODO: OPTIMIZE |
| 14:31.54 | Baanano | hehe |
| 14:31.58 | Ivnedar | nice :D |
| 14:32.21 | Ivnedar | search for that string, see what other things you find? :D |
| 14:32.41 | ZorbaBeta | btw, if you haven't seen the forums, found the bug with UI.Event.Textfield.Change - should be patched in the next update, you can also locally fix it by reparenting textfields after they're created |
| 14:32.42 | Baanano | we aren't allowed to release if there are TODO or FIXME or HACK comments on the code :P |
| 14:32.45 | Imhothar | Ctrl+F for TODO and HACK is often a good thing to do here and then |
| 14:32.54 | ZorbaBeta | but unless it's critical, probably should just wait until the patch :V |
| 14:33.06 | ZorbaBeta | ivnedar, last I checked, there were eight instances of "HEY, LISTEN" in comments |
| 14:33.20 | ZorbaBeta | I use that when I'm writing something that people *really need to pay attention to* :P |
| 14:33.53 | Baanano | zorba, the hotfix would be mid-next week as usually? |
| 14:33.55 | Ivnedar | I use a few "DESPITE WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT THE FOLLOWING LINE, YOU'RE WRONG. LEAVE IT ALONE" |
| 14:34.08 | Ivnedar | half the time it's a note to myself next time I look at that code |
| 14:35.26 | ZorbaBeta | baanano, most likely, yep |
| 14:35.57 | Imhothar | ** this is autogenerated code, do not change ** |
| 14:36.15 | ZorbaBeta | ivnedar, I've done similar things. // HEY I HAVE A GOOD IDEA INSTEAD OF THIS IMPLEMENTATION LET'S __________ no this is a terrible idea let me explain why |
| 14:37.32 | ZorbaBeta | I know there are people who strongly believe that code should be formal and never conversational, but I think that's nuts :P |
| 14:38.20 | Baanano | would you mind us releasing a "fix" addon (expiring on March 15) that changed UI.CreateFrame to reparent textfields on creation? |
| 14:38.33 | ZorbaBeta | that sounds pretty reasonable to me |
| 14:39.09 | Baanano | cool, thanks :) |
| 14:39.22 | ZorbaBeta | np :) |
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| 14:39.50 | ZorbaBeta | (I'm like 95% sure that fix will work, might want to test it before going to a lot of work on a standalone addon though :V) |
| 14:39.52 | Baanano | it'd be nice to have a toc option to say "this addon needs to be loaded as early as possible" for these cases :P |
| 14:40.06 | Ivnedar | Name it AAAAAAAName |
| 14:40.09 | ZorbaBeta | I've thought about a "priority" option but haven't rigged it up yet. in fairness, this should be uncommon |
| 14:41.53 | Ivnedar | check for client version in the init code, if it's not the current string, return |
| 14:41.57 | Ivnedar | so it autodies |
| 14:42.15 | ZorbaBeta | that should be safe too, I'd be surprised if we release another client patch without that fix |
| 14:42.21 | ZorbaBeta | it *could* happen but it's very unlikely |
| 14:42.53 | Imhothar | Addon Apostasy |
| 14:42.56 | Imhothar | cool |
| 14:53.50 | Ivnedar | wonder if they'll add achievements for shard hopping |
| 14:55.20 | Baanano | ivnedar, do you remember which is the part that changes? build or internal? or both? |
| 14:56.04 | ZorbaBeta | baanano, if you can paste or printscreen the dump output, I can tell you, but I forget which is which :V |
| 14:56.46 | Baanano | 14:56:26: [/script] {build = "Mar 5 2013 00:18:11 RWC-RIFTBLD02", external = "1.0.0", internal = "STABLE-202-8-A-787169"} |
| 14:57.00 | ZorbaBeta | honestly build *and* internal will both change |
| 14:57.07 | ZorbaBeta | but I'd lean on internal |
| 14:57.13 | Ivnedar | I used internal |
| 14:57.17 | Ivnedar | for the text fix one |
| 14:57.21 | Baanano | ok, thanks :) |
| 14:57.29 | ZorbaBeta | internal is the actual version number :) |
| 14:57.32 | Imhothar | external is still 1.0.0? someone forgot to do his job |
| 14:57.47 | ZorbaBeta | I'm not sure that's ever changed. I should probably just set it to the internal addon version ID |
| 14:58.15 | Ivnedar | I would have thought external would be something like 2.2.3 for 2.2 hotfix 3 |
| 14:58.29 | Ivnedar | the public name for the patch level |
| 14:58.41 | ZorbaBeta | I don't think those names exist anywhere outside of the patch notes :V |
| 14:58.54 | Imhothar | maybe that;s a sign |
| 14:59.24 | Ivnedar | ah, assumed there'd be some tagging when doing a public build |
| 14:59.35 | Ivnedar | lol, volan cross shard is amusing |
| 14:59.49 | Ivnedar | entry to biofoundry is still based on the status of the wall on your home shard |
| 14:59.55 | Ivnedar | so if you're from another shard, you can't go in |
| 15:00.00 | Ivnedar | line of people at the hole watching |
| 15:00.06 | ZorbaBeta | ivnedar, well, there is . . . that's what the STABLE-xxx-etc string is ;) |
| 15:00.15 | Ivnedar | fair enough :) |
| 15:06.50 | Ivnedar | hoping the horrible server lag during volan stops by next raid :( |
| 15:07.34 | Ivnedar | guessing servers not used to having people from so many shards visiting |
| 15:08.47 | Baanano | this seems to work: http://pastebin.com/nFLFGANM (will test it a bit more this afternoon) |
| 15:09.33 | Baanano | does the AAAA trick really work? |
| 15:09.37 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 15:09.55 | Ivnedar | sorted in alpha after dependancies worked out |
| 15:11.19 | Ivnedar | not sure if numbers are before or after, or even allowed |
| 15:11.30 | Ivnedar | can you name an addon 0000Name ? |
| 15:14.23 | Ivnedar | Baanano: wouldn't you only need to do that change to TextField type frames? or does it happen for other types? |
| 15:15.12 | Baanano | oops true |
| 15:15.23 | Baanano | thanks for reminding :) |
| 15:15.40 | Baanano | seems you can't use numbers in the name |
| 15:16.01 | Ivnedar | AAAA prefix then |
| 15:16.37 | Ivnedar | does it need the extra context? |
| 15:16.59 | Ivnedar | what happens if you create it using parent, then call SetParent(parent) |
| 15:17.52 | Baanano | dunno, let me try |
| 15:19.50 | Baanano | no, that doesn't work |
| 15:21.21 | Ivnedar | ok, thanks for trying it for me :) |
| 15:24.30 | Baanano | this one checks the frametype: http://pastebin.com/jQn6zSm4 |
| 15:24.42 | Baanano | back to the office, cya later |
| 15:24.47 | Ivnedar | cya |
| 15:30.12 | odine | has ne1 had problems where abilities on pet bar vanish? /reloadui doesnt fix.. have to completely restart client |
| 15:30.15 | odine | same with my bags |
| 15:30.25 | Ivnedar | I haven't seen bags disappear |
| 15:30.27 | odine | (default bags too) |
| 15:30.30 | Ivnedar | And don't have a pet spec |
| 15:30.52 | Ivnedar | if you reset bag position do they come back? |
| 15:30.55 | odine | frustrating... happens every timne i change zone |
| 15:31.07 | odine | lemme try |
| 15:31.22 | odine | nope |
| 15:31.28 | odine | hmmmmm |
| 15:32.30 | odine | actually after reloadui the bag problem resolved |
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| 18:24.52 | seebs | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e59guruVL4o |
| 18:28.23 | Baanano | how can that be relaxing? turning off the sound? |
| 18:29.11 | Baanano | ah, i understand, the relaxing part is when it ends |
| 18:34.52 | odine | lmao |
| 18:35.00 | odine | get bacl to work! |
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| 21:53.27 | Imhothar | I'm really curious hwo the memristor stuff is going to work out |
| 21:53.42 | Imhothar | the physics behind it are awesome |
| 21:56.48 | odine | did i miss something? memristor stuff? |
| 21:57.04 | Imhothar | memory resistor |
| 21:57.27 | Imhothar | an electronics component that was predicted in 1971 and HP managed to manufacture in 2006 |
| 21:57.50 | odine | ahhh |
| 21:58.02 | Imhothar | it's basically a piece of wire that can change its resistance by applying voltage in a certain direction. once the resistance has changed it stays for ever |
| 21:58.18 | odine | sounds interesting |
| 21:58.34 | Imhothar | one can read the value using alternating current without changing the stored value |
| 21:59.11 | Imhothar | the energey required to switch is in the micro Amps, depending on amterials even nano Amps and takes only nanoseconds |
| 21:59.20 | Imhothar | extremely high storage density, about 100GB per cm² compared to 16GB for flash |
| 21:59.45 | Imhothar | one coudl empbedd a few Gigs of RAM directly on the CPU |
| 22:00.33 | Imhothar | they are currently researching materials that could vastly outperform SRAM |
| 22:00.45 | Imhothar | in density, consumption and speed |
| 22:02.06 | Imhothar | the really cool thing is the fact its a passive element. you don't need energy to keep it going and has no capacitors which could lose their charge over time |
| 22:02.48 | Imhothar | just imagine that: no more distinction between RAM and hard disk |
| 22:03.00 | Imhothar | both equally fast |
| 22:03.42 | Imhothar | AND! |
| 22:03.51 | odine | ya thats awesome |
| 22:04.15 | odine | now that u got into detail |
| 22:04.25 | odine | i think i remember reading about that somewhere |
| 22:04.41 | Imhothar | you could just shut down the PC and it instantly returns to its previous state after powerup with no delay, because the entire memory components still contain the exact snapshot where it stopped running |
| 22:05.15 | odine | thats gonna be pricey tech when it hits the market id imagine |
| 22:05.22 | Imhothar | not necessarily |
| 22:05.32 | Imhothar | it uses the same manufacturing process as current chips |
| 22:05.34 | seebs | I believe it should in theory be cheapish to make. |
| 22:05.35 | odine | at first |
| 22:05.53 | odine | we all know they like to jack the prices on launches ;) |
| 22:06.17 | Imhothar | that's usually to cover R&D costs |
| 22:06.24 | odine | indeed |
| 22:06.51 | odine | but for now.. im happy with a 3-4 second boot time with my SSD |
| 22:07.10 | odine | that reminds me i need a VGA cooler for my GPU |
| 22:07.24 | odine | my antec case with 7 fans apparently isnt enuf |
| 22:08.32 | Imhothar | interestingly, these things can be wired to do logic operations as well |
| 22:08.35 | odine | or perhaps im just out of the loop.... should look into safe temps for GTX 670 |
| 22:08.54 | odine | wow. happen to have an article link? |
| 22:09.08 | Imhothar | because their state is analogue, they work similarly to synapses |
| 22:09.13 | Imhothar | wait a sec |
| 22:10.51 | Imhothar | this is the article descirbing the discovery: http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/processors/how-we-found-the-missing-memristor |
| 22:10.57 | Imhothar | it's a bit longer |
| 22:13.49 | Imhothar | if this comes true it will probably mean a big change to PC architecture |
| 22:14.20 | Imhothar | it would be rather unproductive to simply replace RAM and hard drive with these things as the mainboard infrastructure just isn't designed for it |
| 22:16.22 | odine | hmm gonna take a look at it in a sec.. interesting find... |
| 22:16.41 | odine | on another note...is anyone having the pet bar abilities randomly disappearing |
| 22:16.46 | odine | reloadui doesnt fix it |
| 22:16.50 | odine | gotta log out and back in |
| 22:17.05 | odine | its realllly getting on my nerve lol |
| 22:18.36 | Imhothar | I have that with my bags, no matter how often I reset them they always appear stacked in an awkward position |
| 22:20.22 | Thorarin | Still having that bags problem as well :( |
| 22:20.32 | odine | ya it does it for bags as welll |
| 22:20.41 | odine | btw culprit is /reloadui once again........... |
| 22:20.53 | odine | everytime i reloadui.. it botches my petbar and bags |
| 22:20.54 | Thorarin | mm hmm |
| 22:22.01 | odine | imho it only affects ur bag addon right? |
| 22:22.12 | Imhothar | no, the native bags |
| 22:22.38 | odine | k just clarifying |
| 22:22.45 | odine | the bag stacking thing is meh |
| 22:22.53 | odine | the pet bar.... more annoying, least to me |
| 22:23.23 | Thorarin | I hate pets anyway, so haven't had any issues with it yet :P |
| 22:27.08 | odine | i play mage so ya |
| 22:27.09 | odine | lol |
| 22:50.15 | odine | ya one sec sorry |
| 22:50.36 | odine | http://www.riftui.com/downloads/info338-BiSCalendar.html |
| 22:50.42 | odine | thanks again cairenn |
| 22:51.01 | Cairenn | done |
| 22:51.05 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
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