| 01:54.14 | odine | btw zorba dunno if ur still around but were u implying Command.Guild.Invite or Command.Group.Invite was on the list as well? just curious hehe |
| 02:58.48 | Ivnedar | Last time it was raised, ZorbaBeta said it was with the developers still. As it could be abused very easily to spam people |
| 02:58.56 | Ivnedar | Would need heavy throttling, etc |
| 02:59.27 | Ivnedar | bug in addon sending a guild invite 60 times a second to people would get annoying :D |
| 03:15.37 | Noshei | ZorbaBeta: can you kick some people over there at trion in the ass |
| 03:15.48 | Noshei | this "botting" bullshit if annoying |
| 03:16.31 | Noshei | twice now i've been locked out of the game because I use autohotkeys so I can hold down a button instead of spam pressing it |
| 03:17.59 | Noshei | and now I cant even get to the support site to chat with someone to get this fixed |
| 03:26.56 | seebs | If my understanding is correct, "convert a sustained press into multiple presses" is, albeit minor, the kind of thing that is considered automation. |
| 03:27.55 | seebs | In short, I think that may be working as intended. I personally don't really care about that kind of macro-like behavior, but I concede that I can't figure out a way to distinguish between that and something that's clearly botting. |
| 03:28.48 | Noshei | well considering that cs said it was ok |
| 03:28.54 | seebs | Yeah, was just reading the thread. |
| 03:29.17 | seebs | It seems like it should be okay, I dunno what the problem is with their exception list; it's obviously not working as intended. |
| 03:29.41 | seebs | Unless they're using "exception list" to mean "we reserve the right to look at the exact sequences of key events and change our minds". |
| 03:29.58 | Noshei | yeah no kidding, and now I can't play until tomorrow |
| 03:30.35 | seebs | I've been using InputDirector to dual-box; thus far, no issues. |
| 04:47.44 | seebs | I should actually make my multiboxing addon. |
| 04:47.49 | seebs | I need to decide what to call it. |
| 04:53.41 | seebs | I don't think I can discern "has a valid /follow up", and I don't think I can tell when I have Stopped Following until we get more chat API. |
| 04:57.29 | seebs | Is there an easy way to check in-game what the current Environment value is? |
| 05:03.29 | Ivnedar | Does the stopped following notification fire a notify event? |
| 05:03.38 | seebs | Not that I'm aware of. |
| 05:04.35 | Ivnedar | could submit that as a bug ;) |
| 05:56.55 | seebs | ZorbaBeta: " Serializes a single parameter. Results in a string suitable for use as a parameter in Lua code. If the input is a table, it must not contain table cycles or non-tree structures." |
| 05:57.03 | seebs | What's "non-tree structures"? Like arrays? |
| 05:57.08 | seebs | Only those are just tables. |
| 05:57.11 | seebs | I am not sure what that means. |
| 06:29.01 | seebs | Is it just me, or is /reloadui taking about 5x as long as it used to? |
| 06:58.40 | Ivnedar | Hrrm, that's unfortunate |
| 06:58.52 | Ivnedar | Inspect.System.Version().internal doesn't change between hotfixes |
| 06:59.13 | Ivnedar | oh, no wait, it does |
| 06:59.18 | Ivnedar | ignore me :) |
| 06:59.42 | Ivnedar | realised my text fix addon printed out fixed frame count outside of the version guard |
| 07:33.51 | seebs | I sort of want to make my multiboxing addon use Gadgets, but I don't see a ton of documentation on how to create a new gadget. |
| 07:42.41 | seebs | I think I've misplaced the gear icon for Gadgets. |
| 07:48.07 | seebs | Huh, that's super handy, really. |
| 08:20.01 | Ivnedar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.03 | Ivnedar | and reloadui |
| 08:20.22 | Ivnedar | to get it back up top left, then move it yourself to where you want it to be |
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| 09:04.45 | NuSuey | Ivnedar: haiii :) |
| 09:05.08 | NuSuey | still haven't received an answer from community@riftgame :( |
| 09:05.19 | NuSuey | and zorba is probably sleeping .. still :p |
| 09:07.31 | NuSuey | oh no.. i'm alone here :( |
| 09:07.41 | Ivnedar | You're not alone |
| 09:08.12 | NuSuey | thought the zombie apocalypse started .. |
| 09:08.37 | NuSuey | nice to (not really since you are just text) see you again! :) |
| 09:09.10 | NuSuey | *nice to see your nickname again..would probably be better, since we can't really see each other* |
| 09:09.17 | NuSuey | :D |
| 09:12.03 | NuSuey | ..and you're gone :( |
| 09:18.32 | Ivnedar | not gone, raid prep |
| 09:19.35 | NuSuey | ahh.. |
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| 09:45.39 | Wildtide | morning all |
| 09:46.57 | ZorbaBeta | seebs, non-tree is "a table that contains itself", for example. or two tables that contain each other. |
| 09:47.25 | ZorbaBeta | wildtide, it's possible your error report is fixed now, I haven't gotten in to work to check yet :) |
| 09:48.40 | Wildtide | nice one Zorba, thanks |
| 09:48.44 | Wildtide | i'll check my mail |
| 09:50.05 | Wildtide | i haven't had chance to log in since EU patch this morning; lookig forward to the fixed fonts :) |
| 09:52.15 | Ivnedar | they are glorious! |
| 09:52.31 | Ivnedar | Should break it like that more often, people will appreciate it more :D |
| 09:52.37 | Wildtide | awesome :D |
| 09:55.49 | Wildtide | ZorbaBeta: nothing yet, but i guess i'll have to wait for the next cycle of the error mailing thingy |
| 09:55.59 | ZorbaBeta | hmm, I forget when it goes out |
| 09:56.02 | ZorbaBeta | well, I'll check it at work |
| 09:56.46 | Wildtide | is it just me that broke? |
| 09:56.58 | Wildtide | did gadgets overwhelm the error logging? ;) |
| 09:57.05 | Baanano | i received mine 1 hour ago |
| 09:57.21 | ZorbaBeta | it's actually everyone after p :V there's some broken data in the system and we've been trying to rig things up to be more tolerant of it |
| 09:57.41 | Ivnedar | Ahh, so the correct solution was for Wildtide to change names |
| 09:57.47 | Wildtide | :) |
| 09:58.19 | Ivnedar | AAAWildtide and you get first reports! |
| 09:58.42 | ZorbaBeta | that would actually work ;) |
| 09:58.54 | Wildtide | iirc, Zorba wrote the error message thingy in .NET... i reckon a try {} catch {} was the missing feature :) |
| 09:59.16 | ZorbaBeta | wildtide, pretty much. Then we put a try/catch in and it didn't work, so we looked at it and realized we were dumb and put it in the wrong place. |
| 09:59.26 | ZorbaBeta | So now it's in the right place, fingers crossed. ^^ |
| 09:59.41 | Wildtide | cool :) |
| 09:59.56 | Wildtide | though a better answer would have been "No Wild, your addon just never falls over" |
| 10:11.37 | Ivnedar | I use it a fair bit :) |
| 10:11.54 | Ivnedar | Haven't seen a error that wasn't my fault |
| 10:16.00 | Wildtide | i don't get errors myself, but i used to get lots of mails, and then they suddenly stopped |
| 10:16.29 | Wildtide | some people just never update their addons, so getting no mails ever is an impossible dream :) |
| 10:16.53 | Ivnedar | I guess the removal of compatibility mode would have stopped some of them? or would that cause more? |
| 10:23.24 | Wildtide | i suppose it would have caused a flurry of errors, and then hopefully lots of people updating |
| 10:23.54 | Wildtide | when the new event model is in place and compatibility is removed, everyone will have to update everything. that will be quite handy :) |
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| 13:34.03 | Ivnedar | I wish we could have Command.Sound.Play() so I can make an addon play the frogger music/sfx in FT! |
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| 15:04.56 | Ivnedar | roflmao |
| 15:05.06 | Ivnedar | the tank dummies in the pts foundry can kill players :D |
| 15:07.19 | odine | lol? |
| 15:07.32 | Ivnedar | tank dummies do 10k hits on the player |
| 15:07.45 | Ivnedar | there's a buff you get that stops you from dying to them |
| 15:07.50 | Ivnedar | but it takes a second or so to come up |
| 15:08.01 | Ivnedar | so if you don't have the hp to survive 1-2 hits, you die :D |
| 16:16.07 | Imhothar | hmm just received an error report with no content |
| 16:49.43 | seebs | Looks to me like I may end up using Gadgets as a UI for something. |
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| 17:10.36 | Wildtide | seebs, you really don't want to do that ;) |
| 17:12.36 | seebs | No? |
| 17:13.01 | seebs | So far it's solved the "how do I make a small window and have its location stashed over time" problem, anyway. |
| 17:14.00 | Wildtide | that's exactly where it started from. that, and the ability to have lots of them all stashed |
| 17:14.23 | Wildtide | then it sorta grew into an over-complicated unit frame addon, but that was an accident :) |
| 17:15.01 | seebs | Yeah, I've been ignoring the unit-frameyness. |
| 17:16.06 | seebs | I'm writing an addon for multiboxing, it's just an information-reporting gizmo; stuff like names of the people your'e supposed to be boxed with, and indicators for range, relative motion, and so on. |
| 17:16.20 | Wildtide | oh, nice |
| 17:17.32 | Wildtide | one of the things i've been toying with is a fighter-pilot style HUD, just for my own amusement. i've been playing a bit of Mechwarrior Online, and thought it could be quite cool to have something that actually looked like a HUD in Rift |
| 17:18.42 | seebs | Huh. |
| 17:18.46 | seebs | That is a really cool thought. |
| 17:18.49 | Wildtide | so range to target, altitude, relative target heading, coords as numbers, little vector triangles sliding up and and down gauges to show health, all that sort of stuff. |
| 17:19.12 | Wildtide | yeah. it wouldn't really fit into the UI or be all that useful, but it would be fun to knock up |
| 17:19.18 | seebs | I'm mostly looking for information like "am I partied with X, which characters are ahead or behind on XP, is everyone moving when I'm moving" |
| 17:20.05 | seebs | It'd be really fun. I would love to have the option of setpoint'ing things to nameplates/units, with the obvious limitation that there'd be no way to query as to their absolute screen coordinates then. |
| 17:20.36 | Wildtide | oh yeah, the ability to put boxes around units on the screen would be awesome |
| 17:21.19 | Wildtide | a missile lock indicator for your current target... ZorbaBeta... you NEED to let us do that |
| 17:21.52 | Imhothar | my bets on you labeling the addon Top Gun |
| 17:21.59 | Wildtide | :D |
| 17:22.17 | Wildtide | as well as playing sounds, so we can do all of the annoying beeping |
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| 19:16.12 | seebs | Man, I sorta want that now. |
| 19:16.24 | seebs | I would totally find color-coded triangles on things easier to parse than bars. |
| 23:01.37 | Ivnedar | You should monitor buffs and when the SBP/Crucia mech buff comes up, change the UI to a fighter hud like you suggested |
| 23:01.42 | Ivnedar | then revert when losing the buff |
| 23:01.50 | Ivnedar | It'd fit then |
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