| 01:04.54 | Imhothar | What's better than a beer and live rock'n'roll music? |
| 01:06.12 | Imhothar | Two beers and live rock'n'roll music! |
| 01:20.47 | Cairenn|afk | Scotch and live rock'n'roll music |
| 01:40.46 | Imhothar | everyone their poison |
| 01:40.57 | Imhothar | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15566688/IMG_1420.JPG |
| 01:53.32 | Ivnedar | I'm enjoying a 2012 vintage Coca Cola |
| 01:53.33 | Ivnedar | mmm |
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| 12:48.12 | Wildtide | afternoon all |
| 13:06.59 | Ivnedar | hiya :) |
| 13:30.48 | Baanano | hi wildtide |
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| 14:38.10 | Ivnedar | we can't rotate textures can we? |
| 14:46.46 | Wildtide | nope |
| 14:47.09 | Ivnedar | I'm blaming qaijiri rep farming for the bad ideas for workarounds that keep popping up |
| 14:47.14 | Wildtide | but feel free to ask Zorba over and over again until he gets really sick of you... i've been doing that :) |
| 14:47.28 | Imhothar | with pride |
| 14:47.29 | Ivnedar | I'm going to try a really really bad idea |
| 14:47.40 | Ivnedar | pixel arrays! |
| 14:47.44 | Ivnedar | each frame is 1x1 |
| 14:47.57 | Wildtide | that would bring rift to its knees |
| 14:47.59 | Ivnedar | and positioned with x,y,angle calc :P |
| 14:48.10 | Ivnedar | I did start off by saying it was a really really bad idea, right? :) |
| 14:48.20 | Wildtide | yep, you did :D |
| 14:48.23 | Ivnedar | I'm now mentally drained enough to now want to know if it'd work |
| 14:49.28 | Wildtide | i would really like texcoords for texture frames. Zorba has hinted at them coming at some point, but they could be a long way off |
| 14:49.41 | Ivnedar | as an extension to that, I could load up the actual texture in each of the pixel frames, and have them act as masks, so each pixel is one pixel in the texture |
| 14:50.42 | Wildtide | so a mask frame and a texture frame for every pixel you want to draw? |
| 14:50.47 | Ivnedar | yes! |
| 14:51.06 | Ivnedar | then reposition them all every update cycle |
| 14:51.31 | Wildtide | i would love to see that done. not sure the client could handle it, but would be fun to try |
| 14:51.32 | Imhothar | give the watchdog a hard day? |
| 14:51.33 | Ivnedar | make it a library too |
| 14:52.32 | Ivnedar | load in any texture and a size for it, it makes a frame for every pixel in that texture sized to given size, then expose functions for rotation, moving |
| 14:52.49 | Ivnedar | ZorbaTHut will hate me in no time! |
| 14:53.12 | Imhothar | 256x256 frames |
| 14:53.21 | Ivnedar | x2 |
| 14:53.32 | Ivnedar | texture+mask for each pixel |
| 14:53.41 | Imhothar | Blow up your video |
| 14:53.48 | Wildtide | http://www.wildtide.net/portal/node/9 |
| 14:54.21 | Ivnedar | so I could easily make it work |
| 14:54.36 | Imhothar | that link explains why I get a FPS drop when ImhoBags is open with inventory + bank + guildbank |
| 14:55.07 | Ivnedar | Does it make a difference if the frames are set to invisible? |
| 14:55.25 | Wildtide | yes, a huge difference |
| 14:55.26 | Imhothar | dunno |
| 14:55.30 | Imhothar | hm well yes |
| 14:55.38 | Ivnedar | I ended up using a free list for frames I no longer need to display in ReDAR |
| 14:55.38 | Imhothar | of course |
| 14:55.50 | Ivnedar | Can't destroy them, so reusing them |
| 14:56.00 | Ivnedar | Only makes a new frame if there isn't a spare unused one |
| 14:56.24 | Wildtide | there is actually a frame recycling library somewhere |
| 14:56.42 | Imhothar | there is, but it's a bit too general-purpose for my liking |
| 14:56.45 | Ivnedar | couple of lines, easy enough to do |
| 14:57.11 | Ivnedar | in my case, all the frames are identical other than texture and position, so easy to recycle |
| 14:57.14 | Wildtide | i've never used it, just remember seeing it somewhere |
| 14:57.51 | Wildtide | and lets face it, we all prefer doing it ourselves rather than using someone else's library :) |
| 14:57.57 | Ivnedar | definitely |
| 14:58.06 | Imhothar | it's resetting all recycled frames to the same state as after CreateFrame(), which in theory is a nice idea, but in practice I'm always recycling frames of the same kind (e.g. item buttons) which have a certain state I can rely on |
| 14:58.35 | Imhothar | and are actually composites |
| 14:59.16 | Wildtide | yep, i do that with buff icons, which are a composite of about 15 frames each |
| 14:59.52 | Wildtide | would be a lot less if ZorbaTHut would give us an outlined/shadowed font option... *hint hint* :) |
| 15:00.55 | Wildtide | i haven't seen Zorba for ages... i think he's avoiding me. either that or he's too busy playing with his birthday presents and new wife... |
| 15:01.16 | Imhothar | he got married on 2nd doofus and has holidays |
| 15:01.34 | Imhothar | and had birthday on 3rd |
| 15:02.04 | Wildtide | and that's an excuse? it's the 4th now! |
| 15:02.20 | Imhothar | which part of "holidays" didn;t you get, old man |
| 15:02.45 | Imhothar | though he actually howed up here |
| 15:02.58 | Imhothar | the day before and after his wedding |
| 15:03.24 | Imhothar | and a few other times |
| 15:04.04 | Wildtide | and that's the sort of commitment we should expect. it's only a wedding after all... |
| 15:04.43 | Imhothar | yeh, did you get the story about the German saying about marriage? |
| 15:04.53 | Wildtide | nope |
| 15:06.03 | Imhothar | The German word for death is "Tod", so there's the saying: "what's the word for the end of life with three letters?". Some respond with the German word for marriage: "Ehe" |
| 15:06.39 | Wildtide | hehe |
| 15:07.24 | Wildtide | Tod... doesn't seem final and dramatic enough for a word for death |
| 15:07.44 | Imhothar | it;s pronounced with a prolonged o |
| 15:07.54 | Imhothar | not like the english name |
| 15:10.29 | Imhothar | makes it more dramatic? |
| 15:12.33 | Imhothar | too dramatic for him it seems |
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| 15:16.19 | Wildtide | i wish webchat knew when it had DC'd |
| 15:17.40 | Baanano | the marriage joke in spanish is mispelling "matrimonio" as "martirmonio", from martyr |
| 15:17.52 | Imhothar | heh |
| 15:18.29 | Imhothar | ever wondered if the symilarity between the words is coincidence? |
| 15:20.03 | Baanano | both words come from latin |
| 15:20.13 | Imhothar | all our words come from latin |
| 15:20.15 | Imhothar | well almost |
| 15:20.22 | Imhothar | or greek |
| 15:20.53 | Baanano | so the romans invented the joke? |
| 15:21.09 | Imhothar | who knows |
| 15:22.00 | Imhothar | maybe it's even older |
| 15:22.09 | Imhothar | people were marrying for millenia |
| 15:24.27 | Baanano | yeah, and even if almost all cultures have jokes of marriage being something bad, people continue doing it |
| 15:25.48 | Imhothar | insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results |
| 15:26.06 | Imhothar | I always doubted the sanity of mankind |
| 15:27.03 | Baanano | second life would clear your doubts |
| 15:27.18 | Imhothar | how so? |
| 15:28.20 | Baanano | people there are wicked, it's worse than 4chan |
| 15:29.57 | Imhothar | never been there and probably never will |
| 15:37.31 | Imhothar | ooh I just had a relevation |
| 15:37.37 | Imhothar | SSD vs HDD |
| 15:37.41 | Imhothar | madness |
| 15:49.52 | Wildtide | what was the revelation? |
| 15:50.09 | Wildtide | other than RIFT taking 4 seconds to log in, instead of 17 hours? |
| 15:50.26 | Imhothar | kinda |
| 16:18.12 | Wildtide | so far, rift has cost me about £400 in new bits for my computer. it's becoming an expensive habit |
| 16:27.27 | Imhothar | copying all the old files to the SSD sounds like the HDD is being raped |
| 16:27.28 | Imhothar | badly |
| 16:28.42 | Imhothar | Baanano did you get any errors with yesterdays alpha? |
| 16:28.55 | Baanano | some |
| 16:29.22 | Imhothar | argh |
| 16:29.51 | Baanano | the config window throws errors |
| 16:30.00 | Imhothar | huh, that's the last thing I've been working on |
| 16:30.10 | Imhothar | and was supposed to work |
| 16:30.11 | Imhothar | wtf |
| 16:30.42 | Baanano | also some consumables don't update the stack size when consumed |
| 16:30.48 | Baanano | namely the guild rally scrolls |
| 16:31.03 | Imhothar | interesting |
| 16:31.36 | Baanano | others are consumed normally |
| 16:32.15 | Imhothar | hmm you could go to the RiftAddon.toc and enable debugging at the bottom where debug=true is commented out |
| 16:32.24 | Imhothar | that will spit out some logging |
| 16:33.18 | Baanano | k, give me 5 minutes till we finish this rr |
| 16:33.25 | Imhothar | no rush |
| 16:34.39 | Imhothar | are those scrolls expensive? |
| 16:34.47 | Imhothar | as in "can a lvl 8 character afford them" |
| 16:35.21 | Ivnedar | they're 10g or so aren't they? |
| 16:36.29 | Imhothar | hmm I'm wondering what might be causeing that if other consumables work normally |
| 16:36.39 | Ivnedar | yup, 10g |
| 16:38.56 | Baanano | i noticed it because yesterday we were doing hunt rifts accross ashora and after 5 or 6 summons imhobags still showed i had all 20 scrolls |
| 16:41.57 | Baanano | maybe the event.item.update isn't firing or it has a weird id? |
| 16:43.35 | Ivnedar | i0356000005B92083 |
| 16:44.25 | Imhothar | I don't treat the Id in any special way other than as table key |
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| 20:40.35 | seebs | I am really, really, getting sick of having to relog to the Rift forums all the !@#!# time. |
| 20:41.39 | Imhothar | yeah! |
| 20:43.46 | seebs | Well, time for the first obvious experiment: Edit the cookies with a 1 hour or less duration to expire in November. |
| 20:44.17 | Imhothar | all my cookies expire in mid 2013 and till have to login all the time |
| 21:21.50 | seebs | I went looking, and I noticed two forum cookies that had expirations of an hour or less. |
| 21:22.23 | seebs | CoH forums had a thing where there was some gizmo between the underlying vB software and the user which would randomly send "delete this cookie" requests. Block those and you stayed logged in forever. |
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| 23:30.02 | Imhothar | I have way too many hooks to Event.Item.Slot/Update in my addon |
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| 23:35.18 | seebs | That's why LibBaggotry basically provides a single hook that does the actual heavy lifting, and then all my other stuff just checks it when it has cause to. |
| 23:35.30 | Imhothar | I would do that |
| 23:35.48 | Imhothar | but more event handlers mean more watchdog tolerance |
| 23:35.53 | seebs | Oooh, point. |
| 23:35.55 | seebs | Huh. |
| 23:38.47 | Imhothar | that might be mitigated with a custom event though, but their watchdog mechanics aren't 100% clear |
| 23:39.19 | seebs | *thinks* |
