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| 08:05.26 | Ivnedar | Oh man, I'm terrible at UIs |
| 08:20.20 | Imhothar | Bjarne Stroustrup about the 5 languages you should know: "well you got C++ obviously, then Java and maybe Python. But those create sort of a clsuter, so if you know one of those you also know the other, including C#. As number 5 you should take something quite weird and different. Pick one of the functional languages for example. That's good to keep your head spinning when you need to" |
| 08:21.01 | Ivnedar | c/c++ covered, python I love, but not happy with the direction 3.x is heading, may as well use java if that's what they want to be |
| 08:25.25 | Imhothar | everytime I need to deal with Haskell my head does start spinning |
| 08:37.30 | Ivnedar | I now have colour coded letters moving around my screen |
| 08:37.41 | Imhothar | yay |
| 08:37.55 | Ivnedar | So I don't need to keep mouseovering the minimap to see what resource nodes are nearby |
| 08:39.06 | Ivnedar | instead of everything being a diamond, M for metals, W for wood, P for plants, F for fishing schools |
| 08:39.13 | Ivnedar | then different colour for each type |
| 08:39.40 | Ivnedar | so when I need elm, I head for green W's |
| 08:40.00 | Ivnedar | Now if only we could find out which way the player is facing, I could rotate it all to match :) |
| 08:40.02 | Imhothar | sounds useful |
| 08:40.15 | Ivnedar | Need to turn the letters into icons at some point |
| 08:40.20 | Imhothar | now if it would show the item icon that would be awesome |
| 08:40.22 | Ivnedar | They're placeholders for now |
| 08:40.24 | Ivnedar | yup |
| 08:40.42 | Ivnedar | I did start off by saying I'm terrible at UIs :) |
| 08:41.41 | Ivnedar | And realised that I'd been leaking functions from carnagebook when I typo'd a slash handler name in this addon and got the carnagebook result ... |
| 08:42.40 | Imhothar | that happens when people only provide two-letter commands for their addons, living in the arrogance their addon will be the only one with that combination |
| 08:43.19 | Ivnedar | nah, this was because I created SlashHander without making it local |
| 08:43.45 | Ivnedar | so when I referenced that name in a new addon instead of the locally scoped addon function name, I got the wrong function |
| 08:44.07 | Imhothar | local is an important keyword |
| 08:44.11 | Ivnedar | yup |
| 08:44.56 | Ivnedar | I'd assumed file scope was default when I started, now I need to go back and fix previous mistakes |
| 08:45.28 | Ivnedar | Mostly because the examples I'd been working off didn't use local either :) |
| 08:45.59 | Imhothar | anything not decalred local is put in the global namespace. you can prevent that by putting setfenv(1, x) at file scope, making x the new global namespace afterwards |
| 08:46.14 | Ivnedar | ah, thanks |
| 08:46.32 | Imhothar | of course you lose any reference to the actual global namespace, so you need to store a local reference to globals before calling setfenv |
| 08:46.37 | Ivnedar | :) |
| 08:46.46 | Ivnedar | easier to do it properly and specify scope |
| 08:46.48 | Imhothar | or injecting global symbols into x |
| 08:46.51 | Ivnedar | local I mean |
| 08:47.27 | Imhothar | I use the addon private table inside setfenv and declare any globals I need either as file locals or add them to the addon table |
| 08:49.09 | Ivnedar | frames are all rectangular? |
| 08:49.14 | Imhothar | aye |
| 08:49.30 | Ivnedar | shame, was hoping to put a circle mask on the resource icons |
| 08:50.29 | Ivnedar | Interestingly, the map api has nodes just outside of the minimap range |
| 08:50.44 | Ivnedar | ~100m in each direction |
| 08:52.29 | Ivnedar | And I've lost track of the number of times I've fallen for X/Y vs X/Z coords |
| 11:02.43 | Ivnedar | And now it's using icons |
| 11:04.44 | Ivnedar | Now it just needs to know direction facing |
| 11:04.47 | Ivnedar | looks at ZorbaTHut :D |
| 11:39.52 | Baanano | ZorbaTHut: would it be possible to have access to info shown on UI.Native.Rift? |
| 11:49.06 | Ivnedar | so it's apparently unanimous, rogues hate crosshairs |
| 11:49.10 | Ivnedar | in my guild anyway :P |
| 11:51.16 | Ivnedar | put a crosshair in the middle of the gathering icons so you could see where the player was, every rogue that tested it, complained about it being there, every other class liked it :P |
| 11:53.32 | Baanano | make it optional then |
| 11:53.46 | Ivnedar | I did |
| 11:53.54 | Ivnedar | Amused me that it was tied to class to much |
| 11:55.44 | Baanano | people complain about the silliest things, instead of "Wow! This addon will boost my gathering efficience, thank you!" they say "This addon is crap because the background isn't pink" |
| 11:56.28 | Baanano | have you released it? |
| 11:56.41 | Ivnedar | not yet, only wrote it this arvo |
| 11:56.51 | Ivnedar | guild's testing for obvious bugs, then will release it |
| 11:57.30 | Baanano | does it track nearby nodes only? or does it have a full node database? |
| 11:57.36 | Ivnedar | nearby only |
| 11:57.44 | Ivnedar | whatever the minimap datafeed provides |
| 11:57.52 | Ivnedar | filtered for resource nodes |
| 11:58.00 | Ivnedar | ~100m range |
| 11:58.43 | Baanano | do you plan to expand it to gather a node database? |
| 11:58.44 | Ivnedar | I could have it remember nodes that it's seen and learn from it, maybe later |
| 11:59.13 | Ivnedar | At the moment it's just telling me what each resource is, and makingit more central to vision so I don't have to glance at minimap and mouseover the diamonds all the time |
| 11:59.52 | Baanano | I asked ZAM if they could share their node data, but they aren't willing to :( |
| 12:00.17 | Ivnedar | I was also thinking of pushing node data into guild storage, so guilds learn about it |
| 12:00.23 | Ivnedar | then not bother publishing full databases |
| 12:00.34 | Imhothar | guid storage is far too limited for that |
| 12:00.40 | Imhothar | only 8k |
| 12:00.42 | Ivnedar | ah, ok |
| 12:00.49 | Imhothar | shared by all addons |
| 12:01.03 | Ivnedar | *nod* |
| 12:01.08 | Ivnedar | was hoping the 8k was 8m |
| 12:01.09 | Ivnedar | oh well |
| 12:01.20 | Baanano | you could message coordinates, and have guildies store them in their savedvars |
| 12:01.28 | Ivnedar | yeah, another option |
| 12:04.15 | Baanano | it'd be nice if the big RIFT websites shared some of their data: npc coordinates, gathering & artifacts nodes... after all they've collected them from players that have submitted their discoverylogs |
| 12:04.46 | Ivnedar | guess they see it as the reason why people keep coming to them and viewing their ads |
| 12:33.28 | Ivnedar | And I just realised I only mapped storm legion resources to icons, oops |
| 12:33.44 | Ivnedar | I keep forgetting that Mathosia exists |
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| 14:50.20 | Ivnedar | Alpha version waiting for approval on curse |
| 14:50.27 | Ivnedar | http://www.curseforge.com/media/files/661/122/ReDAR-0.6.zip if you want to look/play |
| 14:50.59 | Ivnedar | ReDAR = Resource radar |
| 14:51.07 | Ivnedar | crappy name I know, wife hasn't come up with anything better yet :) |
| 14:51.48 | Ivnedar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.54 | Ivnedar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.14 | Ivnedar | Minimap data range seems further in SL than old world |
| 15:35.23 | Ivnedar | ~60m old world, ~100m SL |
| 15:35.41 | Ivnedar | Not complaining, just interesting :) |
| 15:54.35 | Baanano | will try it later :) |
| 15:56.16 | Ivnedar | Took an arvo off of Qaijiri rep farming, now I'm falling way behind :( |
| 17:29.15 | Ivnedar | Does Inspect.Unit.Detail() go back to the server every time? or is it filled locally from a table lookup? |
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